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This is a newspaper report & we're including it in our Suspicious Activity Report! series, because we find this sudden spate of water pipe breakages extremely suspicious & ominous.

Remember, the powers that be love to forecast what they're about to do to you.

People, what will you do if the entire water system shuts down?

Please, please, please, stock up on bottled water & -- even better -- fill 55-gallon barrels NOW.

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Two more L.A. water mains burst overnight, bringing more questions
Jessica Garrison
LATimes.com
September 16, 2009

Two more water mains broke overnight in the San Fernando Valley, the latest in a rash of problems hitting L.A.'s water system.

The first break occurred around 2:30 a.m. on Corbin Avenue in Warner Center, sending water into the street. The second break occurred around 4:30 a.m. on Burbank Boulevard in Winnetka.

Both incidents are under investigation.

Underground water pipes in Los Angeles have suffered significantly more "major blowouts" in the last three months, officials confirmed Tuesday after analyzing dozens of ruptures, some of which flooded streets, damaged vehicles and buildings and, in once case, created a sinkhole so big that it almost swallowed a firetruck.

And the city's engineers don't know why.


It could be fluctuating temperatures. It could be a statistical anomaly. It could be something else.

"It's strange," said William Robertson, general manager of the Bureau of Street Services, which repaves the ruined roads after the water recedes. "The thing that is puzzling is they are so spread out . . . all over the city. You can't link them to anything."



What Department of Water and Power officials can say with certainty is they want more money to fix the problem and plan to ask for a water rate hike. The blowouts underscore the fact that the city's aging water system, which has 7,200 miles of pipe and moves 600 million gallons of water a day, needs an upgrade, officials said.

"This all requires a lot of money," said Jim McDaniel, head of the city's water system.

But some City Council members, who would have to approve any rate increase, did not appear convinced.

"They have to make a case for that," said Councilwoman Jan Perry. She added that she is concerned about the rise in blowouts. "We have to get to the cause," she said. "People can get hurt. Property can be lost."

Los Angeles' water system was put in place by William Mulholland, who figured out how to tap water from the Eastern Sierra and the Owens Valley and designed an aqueduct system that let it flow to Los Angeles on the force of gravity alone.

The influx allowed semi-arid Los Angeles to boom -- and subdivisions marched outward in the 1920s and the years just after World War II.

The system remains a marvel to many engineers and still sends water over the Santa Monica Mountains from Sylmar to San Pedro using gravity. But parts of it are now almost 100 years old, and many of the pipes are wearing out. At the same time, new water quality standards are requiring the DWP to cover many reservoirs at great expense.

The age of the pipes has long been a concern to engineers and officials at the DWP, but most Angelenos were unaware of the urgency until earlier this month.

On Sept. 5, a 95-year-old trunk line ruptured under Coldwater Canyon Avenue, sending a torrent of mud and water shooting 10 feet into the air and into the streets of Studio City.

Less than 72 hours later, a broken main created a sinkhole not far away in Valley Village -- and nearly consumed a firetruck that responded. Days later, another broken main flooded Melrose Avenue near Fairfax High School.

And on Tuesday, there was another on Exposition Boulevard, which caused officials to close the thoroughfare between Crenshaw and Degnan boulevards and cut off water to several businesses.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 03:05:40 pm »
Or maybe it could overtime on top of overtime--a lot like all the crazy fires in California.


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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 03:14:09 pm »


And the city's engineers don't know why.[/b]

It could be fluctuating temperatures. It could be a statistical anomaly. It could be something else.

"It's strange," said William Robertson, general manager of the Bureau of Street Services, which repaves the ruined roads after the water recedes. "The thing that is puzzling is they are so spread out . . . all over the city. You can't link them to anything."


Could it potentially be subsurface movements in the earth? Like something that could put one in mind of pre-earthquake activity? I know little of such things, so it's purely speculation on my part, just curious.
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 03:29:22 pm »
My guess on these because we see this almost every Summer in Texas....Did not SOCal experience a really hot summer? Heat makes these thing break...

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 03:42:50 pm »
95 year old water pipes break, and that's "unexplained"?

The infrastructure is crumbling, as it is all across the US.
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 03:54:14 pm »
My guess on these because we see this almost every Summer in Texas....Did not SOCal experience a really hot summer? Heat makes these thing break...


No! We experienced an exceptionally COOL summer this year!

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 03:57:03 pm »
95 year old water pipes break, and that's "unexplained"?

The infrastructure is crumbling, as it is all across the US.

No duh. My title simply paraphrased the article in which it was emphasized that the city's engineers couldn't explain the breakages. This is a propaganda piece & it is posted as such.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 03:58:33 pm »
I'll go ahead and say it. It's all part of the elite's plan to dry up California and bankrupt us and all the family farms so they can outsource water rights to Africa--where the water is clean.   :P
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 03:59:45 pm »
No duh. My title simply paraphrased the article in which it was emphasized that the city's engineers couldn't explain the breakages. This is a propaganda piece & it is posted as such.

That was uncalled for.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 04:02:01 pm »
I'll go ahead and say it. It's all part of the elite's plan to dry up California and bankrupt us and all the family farms so they can outsource water rights to Africa--where the water is clean.   :P

I think you summed it up nicely!

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 04:04:04 pm »
Sounds like waterhammer if that many pipes went at the same time.
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 04:05:11 pm »
That was uncalled for.

 >:(

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 04:06:23 pm »
Sounds like waterhammer if that many pipes went at the same time.

What does "waterhammer" mean?

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 04:07:59 pm »
Waterhammer occurrs when a valve is opened and water is allowed to flow through. Then while the water is flowing freely, the valve or a valve or many valves are closed suddenly. Since water does not compress, it creates an effect known as water hammer, which causes the water to look for the weakest link in the pipes, resulting in breakages.
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 04:12:59 pm »
Right. Only you can be sarcastic. Only you can make understatements. Only you. It's all about you.

That time of the month again?
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 04:35:32 pm »
That time of the month again?

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 04:37:16 pm »
Waterhammer occurrs when a valve is opened and water is allowed to flow through. Then while the water is flowing freely, the valve or a valve or many valves are closed suddenly. Since water does not compress, it creates an effect known as water hammer, which causes the water to look for the weakest link in the pipes, resulting in breakages.

Thank you very much for that information. Sounds like it could have been done on purpose, then?

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2009, 04:37:26 pm »
Oopsy daisy. You no likey when someone point out you heap big tall hypocrisy? Po' po' Monkeypox. Me cry big buckets 'o crocky-dile tears. Me promise me no picky on you vewy vewy small monkey brain no mo'. Okie dokie smokie? We agwee to disagwee fo'ever & ever, amen. And maybe in vewy near future if you vewy vewy lucky you ancestors evolve to bipedal/big brain humanoid & den you can pway in big sandbox with big boys who know how to tink big big thoughts & can take little little rebukey with gratitude & grace. You kapeeshy?

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 05:34:24 pm »
No! We experienced an exceptionally COOL summer this year!
Are you claiming or expressing this is a sabotage of some sort to cut water off to the masses? Those pipes are old, being they were probably installed around the same time, their life span ran out. Worn out things will break over time...

This reminds of me of those who say, "Don't look for the devil under every rock and pebble."
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2009, 06:41:41 pm »
Are you claiming or expressing this is a sabotage of some sort to cut water off to the masses? Those pipes are old, being they were probably installed around the same time, their life span ran out. Worn out things will break over time...

This reminds of me of those who say, "Don't look for the devil under every rock and pebble."

The devil is invisible; he doesn't have to hide behind anything.

Unlike trolls, who have to hide behind fake usernames, because their deeds are evil.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2009, 06:52:05 pm »
Destroying California Farms to Save Smelt
The green war against San Joaquin Valley farmers
Wall Street Journal
September 10, 2009

California has a new endangered species on its hands in the San Joaquin Valley—farmers. Thanks to environmental regulations designed to protect the likes of the three-inch long delta smelt, one of America's premier agricultural regions is suffering in a drought made worse by federal regulations.

The state's water emergency is unfolding thanks to the latest mishandling of the Endangered Species Act. Last December, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service issued what is known as a "biological opinion" imposing water reductions on the San Joaquin Valley and environs to safeguard the federally protected hypomesus transpacificus, a.k.a., the delta smelt. As a result, tens of billions of gallons of water from mountains east and north of Sacramento have been channelled away from farmers and into the ocean, leaving hundreds of thousands of acres of arable land fallow or scorched.

For this, Californians can thank the usual environmental suspects, er, lawyers. Last year's government ruling was the result of a 2006 lawsuit filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council and other outfits objecting to increased water pumping in the smelt vicinity. In June, things got even dustier when the National Marine Fisheries Service concluded that local salmon and steelhead also needed to be defended from the valley's water pumps. Those additional restrictions will begin to effect pumping operations next year.

The result has already been devastating for the state's farm economy. In the inland areas affected by the court-ordered water restrictions, the jobless rate has hit 14.3%, with some farming towns like Mendota seeing unemployment numbers near 40%. Statewide, the rate reached 11.6% in July, higher than it has been in 30 years. In August, 50 mayors from the San Joaquin Valley signed a letter asking President Obama to observe the impact of the draconian water rules firsthand.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has said that he "doesn't have the authority to turn on the pumps" that would supply the delta with water, or "otherwise, they would be on." He did, however, have the ability to request intervention from the Department of Interior. Under a provision added to the Endangered Species Act in 1978 after the snail darter fiasco, a panel of seven cabinet officials known as a "God Squad" is able to intercede in economic emergencies, such as the one now parching California farmers. Despite a petition with more than 12,000 signers, Mr. Schwarzenegger has refused that remedy.

The issue now turns to the Obama Administration and the courts, though the farmers have so far found scant hope for relief from the White House. In June, the Administration denied the governor's request to designate California a federal disaster area as a result of the drought conditions, which U.S. Drought Monitor currently lists as a "severe drought" in 43% of the state. Doing so would force the Administration to acknowledge awkward questions about the role its own environmental policies have played in scorching the Earth.

As the crisis has deepened, the political stakes have risen as well. In late August, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack came to the devastated valley to meet with farmers and community leaders. Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein has pledged to press the issue with Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. "There are 30 lawsuits on the biological opinions and two separate opinions, one for the smelt and one for the salmon," Ms. Feinstein said, "The rules need to be reconsidered."

The Pacific Legal Foundation has filed a lawsuit on behalf of three farmers in the valley, calling the federal regulations "immoral and unconstitutional." Because the delta smelt is only found in California, the Foundation says, it does not fall under the regulatory powers provided by the Constitution's Commerce Clause. On a statutory basis, the Fish and Wildlife Service also neglected to appropriately consider the economic devastation the pumping restrictions would bring.

Things in California may have to get so bad that they endanger Democratic Congressional incumbents before Washington wakes up, but it doesn't have to be that way. Mr. Salazar has said that convening the God Squad would be "admitting failure" in the effort to save the smelt under the Endangered Species Act. Maybe so, but the livelihoods of tens of thousands of humans are also at stake. If the Obama Administration wants to help, it can take up Governor Schwarzenegger's request that it revisit the two biological opinions that are hanging farmers and farm workers out to dry.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2009, 06:59:57 pm »
Sean Hannity exposes the man-made drought in California Videos
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May 8, 2009

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FROM THE GREAT AMERICAN BLOG: Let me be honest: When I get hungry, I walk into the kitchen, wash an apple, slice it and slap some peanut butter on it. Or sometimes I grab a can of almonds, pour a few in my hand and enjoy a little healthy snack. But, never do I think about where the foods are grown or how much work went into growing them. Recently that changed when Chase ("Hannity" producer) and I flew out to Fresno, California. We spent days visiting farms where nearly 300 crops (fruits, veggies and most nuts) are produced. It was quite a site. We flew above miles and miles of gorgeous, almond orchards and talked with farmers about different issues affecting our foods. The main concern and the reason for our research is this: Nearly 40,000 farmers in the Central Valley are unemployed because a judge ordered to turn off the irrigation system in order to save a small fish, which is endangered. The minnow is called the Delta Smelt and it lives in the water, which is pumped into the San Joaquin Valley. Environmentalists complained and a judge ordered the pumps be turned off. But, no water means no crops and no jobs. In turn, farmers are making tough decisions. They are losing their farms (in some circumstances third generation farms) and forced to fire the workers. Food banks can't keep shelves stocked because of all the needy families and eventually, farmers say, you and I will feel the effects. We will be forced to eat fruits, veggies and nuts from other countries (with few regulations, pesticides, etc). Most farmers are screaming "fish over family" and they are stressed, frustrated and fearful. But, environmentalists say the fish needs to be protected and without it the entire ecosystem is in danger. They want the fish to stay in its natural surroundings, not moved to another pond (aka not supposed to be there). It's a fascinating story and one that will take a long time to work out. But, no doubt, something has to be done. Watch the story tonight on "Hannity" at 9 PM EST. I'll be on set with Sean discussing the issue. Thanks for watching! -Ainsley Earhardt, FOX NEWS

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2009, 07:06:54 pm »
CALIFORNIA DROUGHT

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What's REALLY behind the current California water crisis? Is it merely a drought? Or something more sinister? Agenda 21? Find out the truth in this video! Michael Shaw reveals how the Endangered Species Act has been used as a tool to divert the water from the snowmelt off of the High Sierras directly into the Pacific Ocean, instead of to the farmlands in the Central Valley (the lushest farmland in America). Is this false environmentalism? Watch as Michael Shaw explains how this is Agenda 21 and Sustainable Development in practice, through deprivation of food and water. Michael Shaw is a true environmental restorationist- find out more about his Liberty Garden. Then stand up and expose Agenda 21 and support human life and the farmers.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2009, 07:15:22 pm »
**Water Cut Off to California City** - Mendota 41% Unemployment, Federal Disaster Area

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What happens when you introduce wacky evironmental regulation and taxes like cap an trade into a credit collapse, hyperinflationary economic situation? Meet your future, 41% unemployment

Disaster Request for a Drought-Hit County in California
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/20/us/...

Governor gets firsthand look at water shortage
http://www.fresnobee.com/1072/story/1...

Despair flows as fields go dry and unemployment rises
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi...,0,3172131.story

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2009, 05:14:05 pm »
SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORTS: Various sources: Martial law, surveillance, water / food crisis Los Angeles 9/17/09

Suspicious Activity Reports!

Summary of latest intel:

They are planning to cut off the water to L.A.

They are planning to cut off the food supply to L.A.

They are planning to institute martial law in L.A.

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The NWO ,poised and ready,in L A , Part 1

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The NWO,poised and ready ,in L A ,Part 2

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Sean Hannity exposes the man-made drought in California

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Let me be honest: When I get hungry, I walk into the kitchen, wash an apple, slice it and slap some peanut butter on it. Or sometimes I grab a can of almonds, pour a few in my hand and enjoy a little healthy snack. But, never do I think about where the foods are grown or how much work went into growing them. Recently that changed when Chase ("Hannity" producer) and I flew out to Fresno, California. We spent days visiting farms where nearly 300 crops (fruits, veggies and most nuts) are produced. It was quite a site. We flew above miles and miles of gorgeous, almond orchards and talked with farmers about different issues affecting our foods. The main concern and the reason for our research is this: Nearly 40,000 farmers in the Central Valley are unemployed because a judge ordered to turn off the irrigation system in order to save a small fish, which is endangered. The minnow is called the Delta Smelt and it lives in the water, which is pumped into the San Joaquin Valley. Environmentalists complained and a judge ordered the pumps be turned off. But, no water means no crops and no jobs. In turn, farmers are making tough decisions. They are losing their farms (in some circumstances third generation farms) and forced to fire the workers. Food banks can't keep shelves stocked because of all the needy families and eventually, farmers say, you and I will feel the effects. We will be forced to eat fruits, veggies and nuts from other countries (with few regulations, pesticides, etc). Most farmers are screaming "fish over family" and they are stressed, frustrated and fearful. But, environmentalists say the fish needs to be protected and without it the entire ecosystem is in danger. They want the fish to stay in its natural surroundings, not moved to another pond (aka not supposed to be there). It's a fascinating story and one that will take a long time to work out. But, no doubt, something has to be done. Watch the story tonight on "Hannity" at 9 PM EST. I'll be on set with Sean discussing the issue. Thanks for watching! - Ainsley Earhardt, FOX NEWS



California Farmers And Farmworkers Endangered By Minnows !!!

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Sean Hannity interviews Congressman Devin Nunes and Actor/Comedian Paul Rodriguez. A California Central Valley town (Huron) has lost it productivity because of the Endangered Species Act that protects minnows. Farmers and Farmworkers are now losing farms and jobs because the government shutdown a water pump station. Where is the United Farmworkers Union ? Ceasar Chavez is rolling in his grave. Delores Huerta, where are you !!!



Obama Card and the man-made drought

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Central California - The Next Dust Bowl

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Startling Development in Food Production. Farming communities begin to fail due to environmental regulations. Are we repeating the same mistakes?



**Water Cut Off to California City** - Mendota 41% Unemployment, Federal Disaster Area

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What happens when you introduce wacky evironmental regulation and taxes like cap an trade into a credit collapse, hyperinflationary economic situation? Meet your future, 41% unemployment

Disaster Request for a Drought-Hit County in California
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/20/us/20fresno.html?ref=global-home

Governor gets firsthand look at water shortage
http://www.fresnobee.com/1072/story/1484985.html

Despair flows as fields go dry and unemployment rises
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-drought6-2009jul06

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2009, 02:20:05 am »
L.A. Times didn't carry today's poisonous-mercury-tainting-California's-water-supply story, but they did carry this ...

More ominous forewarnings that something very, very bad is about to happen to southern California's water supply ...

-- Kim




Broken water main floods Topanga Canyon Boulevard
Jessica Garrison
LATimes.com
September 17, 2009


Workers monitor a broken water main on Topanga Canyon Boulevard in Canoga Park.

Topanga Canyon Boulevard in Canoga Park was shut down during the busy afternoon commute today after yet another broken water main flooded the street and sent dirty brown water pouring into nearby businesses.

The break — the fourth major gusher this week — occurred just before 3 p.m. in a 12-inch pipe under Topanga near Victory Boulevard.

Topanga is a major state highway connecting the 101 and 118 freeways, and some city officials predicted traffic chaos. Councilman Dennis P. Zine, who represents the area, said he wants the city Department of Water and Power to figure out what is going on beneath the streets — and fast.

Earlier this week, DWP officials said the city had been experiencing significantly more “major blowouts” in water pipes in the last three months. They said they don’t yet know why. In recent days, broken water mains have flooded portions of Studio City, created a sinkhole in Valley Village so big it almost swallowed a firetruck and flooded streets and damaged property around the city.

“Why is this happening?” Zine said. “We need to get answers.... Every day we hear of another one breaking.” The latest break cut water to about 50 customers, according to DWP officials.

It follows breaks earlier this week in the same area, including one on Corbin Avenue in Warner Center and another on Burbank Boulevard in Winnetka.

“It looks like a filthy, brown river,” said Shawn James, 43, who drove by the intersection about 3 p.m. and said he noticed water gushing out of a hole in the middle of the pavement.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2009, 02:23:53 am »
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2009, 07:27:09 am »
The devil is invisible; he doesn't have to hide behind anything.

Unlike trolls, who have to hide behind fake usernames, because their deeds are evil.

This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. -- John 3:19
First of all it was a saying some use, don't take it literal as you did.

Secondly I am not a troll...

Thirdly: There are some here that seem to believe that every single act of anything is an attack brought to you by the NWO! Sometimes things just happen because of a natural act. I just don't happen to  believe these water pipes breaking is  mysterious and unexplainable. We see them all the time in Texas.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2009, 08:23:32 am »
It might be reasonable to take into consideration that if man was involved in the process, it will break! Water conspiracy? Who knows. Infrastructure wearing out? Plenty of evidence of that.
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2009, 08:29:13 am »
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/

take a look at the earthquake map for the US, especially California.  A couple of months ago, there was an almost straight line from LA thru the corner of Nevada.  Made me think that they might be putting an underground tunnel there.  Now the earthquakes are everywhere.  I wonder if they are getting ready to sink California like has been predicted by many.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2009, 12:51:08 pm »
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/

take a look at the earthquake map for the US, especially California.  A couple of months ago, there was an almost straight line from LA thru the corner of Nevada.  Made me think that they might be putting an underground tunnel there.  Now the earthquakes are everywhere.  I wonder if they are getting ready to sink California like has been predicted by many.

Interesting map. I didn't see the "straight line" that you spoke of, but I did see a very large cluster of seismic activity in the greater Los Angeles area as opposed to other areas -- even San Francisco looks fairly placid as compared to L.A.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2009, 09:49:11 pm »
Oh my. Just when you thought the propaganda couldn't get worse, it gets even better ...

You know all those water main breaks in Los Angeles?

You know who's causing it?

(drum roll please)

(fasten your seatbelts)

(hold on to your hats)

And the answer is:

It's all those pesky homeowners not watering their lawns during daylight hours like they were told to do by the powers that be!

ROFLMPO (rolling on floor laughing my patootie off)

-- Kim


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City Council members demand answers, solutions to L.A. water main failures
LATimes.com
September 19, 2009


Coldwater Canyon Avenue was littered with chunks of road after a trunk line burst Sept. 5, causing flooding several feet deep on some nearby streets.

Some L.A. City Council members are pressing the Department of Water and Power to quickly develop solutions amid a rash of major water main failures across the city.

Since Sept. 1, there have been  34 "major blowouts" in L.A.'s water system in which streets have flooded and pavement has buckled.



Click here for a map of the major water main breaks in Los Angeles in September 2009.
The latest occurred Friday afternoon on Myra Avenue in Silver Lake. By contrast, the city had only 21 such ruptures in all of September 2008, 17 in September 2007 and 13 in September 2006.

“These things keep happening and I would like an explanation of what’s going on,” said Councilwoman Jan Perry, who sits on the committee that oversees the agency. “We have to come up with a solution.”

Mike Eveloff, president of a homeowners association on the Westside, said he was struck by how much water has been wasted in the last few weeks.

Observing two separate blowouts near his home over the summer, he said:  “Being asked to conserve water and being asked to only water on Mondays and Thursdays and then seeing more water than you could ever save flowing out into the street,  it’s frustrating for people to see.”

City engineers are trying to determine what's causing the water main bursts and have been taking soil samples, sending pipe pieces to labs for testing and performing a statistical analysis on each break.

But some experts said a prime suspect should be the city's recent decision to allow sprinklers to run only on Mondays and Thursdays.

They say that if more water flows through the system on those two days when people water their lawns and then pressure suddenly changes on other days, it could put added stress on already-aging pipes.

"As Sherlock Holmes used to say, when you eliminate everything, whatever is left is the reason.... If the pipe wasn't bad, and it [wasn't seismic activity] and it wasn't a funky contractor, well, what you've changed is this twice-a-week surge flow because of watering restrictions," said Richard Little, director of the Keston Institute for Public Finance and Infrastructure Policy at USC.

Jean-Pierre Bardet, chairman of USC's civil engineering department, who began informally consulting with DWP officials Thursday, concurred that water rationing should be thoroughly investigated, noting that the system's age makes it susceptible to problems.

DWP officials said they are looking into the rationing, among numerous other possible causes. The rationing began in June, shortly before they noticed an uptick in major blowouts. There were 24 blowouts in July and 31 in August, increases from the same months last year.

Jim McDaniel, head of city water operations, refused to speculate on the cause, saying the inquiry is not complete.

Engineers also stressed that the city's 7,200 miles of pipe aren't actually leaking more than usual -- in fact, the number of leaks, about 1,400 a year, is down from the past and represents a lower rate per mile of pipe than in other cities. The problem is with bigger, more destructive leaks that send water shooting through streets.

"We have more breaks which actually have created major destruction," Bardet said.

The problem came to the DWP's attention Sept. 5, after a 5-foot-wide trunk line underneath Coldwater Canyon Avenue in Studio City exploded, sending a 10-foot gusher of water and mud into the air.

Homes and businesses were flooded, and the street, a major thoroughfare connecting the San Fernando Valley and the Westside, was closed for a week. That pipe was 95 years old, and officials suspected that age may have been a factor in its failure.

Less than 72 hours later, another, newer main burst in Valley Village, creating a sinkhole that swallowed half the firetruck that responded to the call about flooding. Firefighters crawled out the window and escaped to safety.

As officials analyzed those problems, they realized they had been seeing an increase in "major blowouts."

In the following days, there was at least one, and often two or three major breaks, snarling traffic, flooding streets and attracting media attention. On Thursday, a break temporarily closed Topanga Canyon Boulevard in Canoga Park.

At first, officials believed one culprit was the age of the system. The DWP has a $1.3-billion program to replace old pipe, funded by a water rate increase of about $2 per customer that the council authorized last year.

But as the blowouts continued, department officials began reaching out for help, sending data to universities and other experts.

Officials said it remains possible that the blowouts are a statistical anomaly. But experts like Little are somewhat more skeptical. He said the timing of the blowouts -- coming soon after the city imposed a major change in water usage with the restrictions -- is highly curious. This marks the first time the city has restricted water use to two days a week.

"To me that is an 'aha' moment," he said.

Little doubts that seismic activity is to blame and said that if he were investigating, he would study the way the shifting pressure from the rationing is hitting the water mains.

But his USC colleague Bardet raised a question investigators will have to answer: If rationing is to blame, wouldn't other cities like Long Beach with similar programs be seeing a surge in blowouts?

--Jessica Garrison

Check out the Times' map of L.A.'s water main breaks.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2009, 01:08:50 pm »
These are the images that I saved that day that I noticed the "line" of earthquakes from California thru Utah.  Sorry it took me so long to post them.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2009, 01:11:26 pm »
Let me try that again.


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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2009, 01:29:09 pm »
They want to "save" them by installing new connections and meters. So we break the old ones.

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2009, 08:10:35 pm »
There is a propaganda piece on the History International Channel right now titled "The Crumbling of America"  explaining how we must get used to the decay and destruction of the infrastructure due to neglect and age.  So my question is WTF have you been doing with all the tax $$$$$$.  f**king theives.   >:(
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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2009, 09:38:27 pm »
There is a propaganda piece on the History International Channel right now titled "The Crumbling of America"  explaining how we must get used to the decay and destruction of the infrastructure due to neglect and age.  So my question is WTF have you been doing with all the tax $$$$$$.  f**king theives.   >:(

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Re: Unexplained water pipe breakages in Los Angeles, California 9/16/09
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2009, 02:43:57 am »
Sorry, forgot to post latest ...

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Water main breaks in Miracle Mile area
Victoria Kim
LATimes.com
September 28, 2009


Repairs have begun on southbound Fairfax Avenue at San Vicente Boulevard

A water main ruptured at San Vicente Boulevard and Fairfax Avenue this morning, interrupting service to dozens of customers in what is the latest in a series of breaks in Los Angeles’ water system.

The water main break was reported about 6 a.m., flooding the streets, said Maychelle Yee of the Department of Water and Power. Service was cut off to 40 to 50 DWP customers, mainly commercial businesses, while repairs are under way, Yee said.
 
The rupture comes on the heels of other water main breaks reported over the weekend in Encino and the Hollywood Hills.

The department averages about four leaks a day in the city’s 7,200 miles of aging pipes, and smaller leaks should not be confused with “major blowouts” causing street damage, Yee said. More than 30 blowouts have been reported so far in September.

Some experts have speculated that the city's recent decision to allow sprinklers to be used only on Mondays and Thursdays may be increasing stress on aging pipes because of sudden changes in pressure.

“We do realize this is a little bit higher than normal,” Yee said of the breaks. “We have several outside experts looking into it. We’re just looking at everything to see how that might be affecting it.”

Interactive map: Los Angeles water main breaks