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Parents are worried about the swine flu vaccine
Parents are confused and concerned about the swine flu vaccine due to be introduced in October.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6029856/Parents-are-worried-about-the-swine-flu-vaccine.html
By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 10:00AM BST 15 Aug 2009

Parents talking on the internet forums have expressed some concern about the H1N1 vaccine that will be offered to children and adults with underlying health conditions and pregnant women as priorities.

Fears raised include its safety for pregnant women, whether the vaccine has been tested enough and the fact one of them contains a controversial mercury preservative. One mum posted: "Absolutely no way would I allow my son to be vaccinated, he's not a guinea pig."

Another said: "This strain seems to be mild but they are predicting that the second strain will be alot worse especially with it being flu season. Plus if it mutates we could be in serious trouble if we are not vaccinated."
(It usually replicates into a less harmful strain, but ok)
Justine Roberts, Co-founder of mumsnet.com said: "Lots of mums on Mumsnet are questioning whether giving the swine flu vaccine to their children is a good idea. Some are worried about how well it's been tested, others about it's effectiveness and side effects."

The GlaxoSmithKline vaccine contains thiomersal which was linked to neurological disorders and autism in the 1990s but has since been extensive tested and no evidence of harm has been found.

Its use was phased out of most vaccines, however it is being used in the GSK vaccine to make it last longer and avoid wastage. (If no harm, why try to phase it out, anyway? Doublethink alert!)

Prof David Salisbury, head of immunisation at the Department of Health, said the vaccines will arrive in vials containing about ten doses as it is not feasible to produce or store single-dose preloaded syringes on the scale needed to vaccine the 11m people who will be offered the vaccine between October and December.

He said, if only one or two doses in a vial are used on one day the GSK vaccine can be stored overnight in the fridge and the remaining doses used the next day. However the Baxter vaccine, which does not contain thiomersal, would have to be thrown away if the whole vial's contents were not used within three hours, he added.

Pregnant women on the forums had mixed views with some saying they are eager to be vaccinated against swine flu while others were circumspect.

Prof Salisbury said the vaccine will be offered to pregnant women who are at greater risk of complications if they contract flu, data from Britain and America has shown.

The European Medicines Agency will decide on whether the vaccine is offered to women at all stages of pregnancy or only in the second or third trimester when the risks of swine flu to both mother and baby are higher.

Prof Salisbury said concerns about vaccines during pregnancy are based on theorectical risks that a live virus vaccine could affect the feotus but extensive tested with the rubella vaccine had not found any evidence of this. He added that the H1N1 vaccines are not live anyway but contain an inactivated version of swine flu.

(Just to point out, the CHAT 10a-11 oral polio vaccine was made from the fecal matter of a retarded child who's mother was pregnant when she had rubella...don't know if that's relevant, just thought I'd throw in a little factoid there)
He said: "We are taking a sensible approach to vaccinate people who are at greatest risk from swine flu first. For people with risk factors the flu may not be mild at all."

He said the products are based on pre-pandemic vaccines using the H5N1 bird flu virus, which have been extensively trialled. The manufacturers have then switched the flu H5N1 flu strain for the current H1N1 swine flu change, in the same way as the seasonal flu vaccines are altered each year to match the current circulating strain.

In addition to this new trials are now beginning using the H1N1 vaccines covering all age groups.

A spokesman for GlaxoSmithKline said: "The World Health Organisation has recommended that for vaccines which come in multidose vials, manufacturers use a preservative to enable doctors to withdraw several doses from the same vial.

"There have been many studies conducted over decades of research which suggest that thiomersal has a good safety profile and is well tolerated. It is essential that a preservative is used in vaccines such as this to avoid wastage."

He said there was no alternative to thiomersal as a preservative for vaccines of this kind.
I thought there were alternatives to thimerosal.
 

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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2009, 04:43:50 pm »
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I thought there were alternatives to thimerosal.

So did I. Some flu vaccines don't contain it.
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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2009, 04:46:13 pm »
Distributing H1N1 vaccine: Start slowly or 'full-throttle?'
http://www.indystar.com/article/20090815/LOCAL/908140388/Start+vaccine+slowly+or++full-throttle?+
By Josh Duke
Posted: August 15, 2009


VINCENNES, Ind. -- A group of about 65 Hoosiers, primarily from Knox County, began discussing this morning how the federal government should distribute the H1N1 influenza vaccine.

The key issue: whether immunization should start slowly or "full-throttle.''

“We would rather err on the side of doing too much, so we are leaning more toward the full-throttle approach,’’ said Janet Archer, emergency preparedness nurse for the Indiana State Department of Health.

“Local departments will decide how the vaccine will be distributed. We will offer suggestions and guidance to help them with their planning.’’

The vaccine is expected to become available on a limited basis in October, and specific groups of people – such as pregnant women, infants, young adults and other at-risk grups -- will get the vaccine first.

A senior adviser from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is among the participants today at Vincennes University.

Schools across the nation are preparing to possibly serve as the distribution locations for the free shots, and some Indianapolis-area educator already have begun discussing plans.

The CDC planned today's public discussion "as the agency considers whether to simply make vaccines available to those seeking immunization, to promote vaccination to those most at risk, or to implement a widespread immunization program," according to a news release from state health department spokeswoman Melissa Dexter.

Roger H. Bernier, senior adviser for scientific strategy and innovation with the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, will be a key figure at today's six-hour discussion beginning at 9 a.m. Another national expert will be Dr. Raymond A. Strikas of the National Vaccine Progrm Office and the U.S. Public Health Service.

In Marion County, the Health Department will oversee and store vaccines. Dr. Virginia A. Caine, the county's health director, said about 400,000 county residents will be eligible for H1N1 vaccine.

Federal officials have said priority should be given to pregnant women and those aged six months to 24 years, as well as health care providers, infant caregivers, and those with underlying health conditions.

Stephanie Sample, spokewoman for the Indiana Department of Education, said using schools as vaccination sites is a possible option should the state decide to widely distribute the vaccine. However, she said, no timeline has been set for a decision and the state has no concrete plans set.

"There are ongoing meetings and discussions between the Department of Health, Department of Education and Homeland Security," Sample said. "But nothing has been determined yet."

Some educators are awaiting word.

"I've only heard confusion on how that is going to play out," said Zionsville Schools superintendent Scott Robison on Thursday.

Zionsville as well as Hamilton Southeastern and Carmel Clay school districts have been evaluating whether they could hold thousands of vials of the vaccine. Robison said Zionsville told Boone County health authorities the school district might be able to provide storage.

Washington Township Schools on the Northside landed in the center of the swine flu pandemic when a Spring Mill Elementary student was diagnosed with the new strain of flu in May.

The district hasn't made specific plans for handling the disease this year and is waiting direction from the Marion County Health Department, said Superintendent James Mervilde.

"This particular strain is more dangerous to young people," Mervilde said. "If we had an opportunity to offer flu shots, we'd be fools not to."

Indianapolis Public Schools had two schools close in May due to H1N1 cases. IPS spokeswoman Mary Louise Bewley said IPS would let the health department take charge if another incident occurs. IPS also is counting on the county health department to take the lead on vaccine distribution.

Roger Bennett, Indiana schools superintendent, on Tuesday sent each district's superintendent a memo with H1N1 information. That memo basically encouraged good hygiene practices and preparedness.

"The Indiana Department of Education will continue to share additional information and instructions with local schools as the situation continues to develop," Bennett's memo said.

Some educators and local health officials, though, are moving ahead.

Hamilton and Hendricks counties' health and emergency officials have planned meetings with educators later this month to discuss plans. The Hamilton County meeting will be Aug. 31 at a Noblesville church, according to Steve Dillon, Carmel Clay director of student services.

"We'll hopefully get a little more definitive information. We've heard a variety of different things, going all the way back to June, that the federal government would do a massive inoculation for HINI. The ages (of who will get the vaccine) keep changing. Who's going to do it keeps changing. It is one shot? Is it two shots? Is it a nasal spray? Is it whatever, it's all over the board."

Drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline PLC said Friday it has started testing its swine flu vaccine in humans. Those tests are expected to determine many of the final decisions about the dosage amounts, types and delivery.

"We aim to get the first doses out in September," spokeswoman Alexandra Harrison said, with major orders fulfilled by the end of the year or early 2010.

A small amount of the vaccine would be available at the earliest in late September, said Dr. Judith Monroe, Indiana's health commissioner. In Indiana, the virus has been found in 314 people and four have died, Indiana Department of Health spokeswoman Julie Dunlap said Friday.

Since swine flu emerged in April, it has killed at least 1,462 people worldwide and is estimated to have infected millions.

Rothschild controlled Associated Press and Star reporters Mark Ambrogi, Lindsay Machak, Carrie Ritchie, Shari Rudavsky and Bruce C. Smith contributed to this report.
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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2009, 04:49:50 pm »
Online database created ahead of inoculation campaign that could start next month
http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bal-md.flu15aug15,0,1903800.story
By Kelly Brewington | [email protected] August 15, 2009


In anticipation of a mass vaccination campaign against swine flu this fall, Maryland health officials are communicating with doctors' offices, clinics and hospitals about the details of administering a vaccine to nearly 3 million of the state's most vulnerable residents.

Providers who plan to administer the vaccine should begin signing up at the state Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Web site, www.dhmh.state.md.us.

Officials created an online database Friday to take requests from family doctors' offices, clinics and hospitals that would likely give the inoculations.

While Maryland officials are waiting for details from the federal government about how agreements would work between the state and providers, they are eager to begin the process for the vaccine campaign that could start as soon as next month - earlier than previous federal estimates of mid-October.

"We are shooting for the end of September to have the providers lined up and ready to go and to have the seasonal flu campaign under way," said Frances Phillips, the state's deputy secretary for public health services.

Anticipating that there won't be enough vaccine for every American, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention set five priority groups: pregnant women; people between the ages of 6 months and 24 years old; non-elderly people with chronic illness; health care workers; and caretakers of children younger than 6 months old. Phillips said she expects the state to receive enough vaccine for the estimated 2.9 million Marylanders in those categories.

"I think we'll have enough. The question is how soon will we have enough of it," Phillips said. "School is starting, [and] as the weather gets colder, it's going to be a real race to get it to people with the highest risk to develop immunity so when they are exposed, they are protected."

The vaccine could cost consumers between $10 and $20, but state officials are still working out the details of the price and whether it would be reimbursed by insurers.

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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2009, 04:50:20 pm »
Going "full-throttle" is not something you want to do with vaccines that are unapproved by the FDA, opposed by thousands of pediatricians and hundreds of thousands of parents, and proven to be unsafe in other countries....unless.... ::)

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« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2009, 04:55:30 pm »
Going "full-throttle" is not something you want to do with vaccines that are unapproved by the FDA, opposed by thousands of pediatricians and hundreds of thousands of parents, and proven to be unsafe in other countries....unless.... ::)

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« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2009, 05:04:54 pm »
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« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2009, 05:48:32 pm »
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200908091213.htm
India scrambles for germ-free eggs for swine flu vaccines

New Delhi (IANS): The crack team at the Pune-based Serum Institute of India, which is charged with creating a vaccine for swine flu, is confronted with a problem — sourcing enough chicken eggs free of pathogens, or germs, to grow the vaccine.

Luckily, Venkateshwara Hatcheries, India's largest poultry farm, is situated in the very city where there was panic among residents after the first death on account of swine flu August 3.

"Currently the company will supply us about 1,00,000 pathogen-free eggs," Suresh Jadhav of the Serum institute told the Indian edition of "Technology Review", the 109-year publication of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

"But if there is an urgent requirement to step up the vaccine production, they will be able to give us up to 2.5 million eggs a month," Mr. Jadhav was further quoted as telling the magazine, published in India by CyberMedia.

There are two farms in Bangalore as well that could be roped in if the swine flu virus spins out of control in India. Over 700 confirmed swine flu cases have been reported in India till on Friday.

Under the scheme supported by the World Health Organisation (WHO), Serum Institute is committed to providing at least 10 per cent of itsproduction of vaccine against swine flu for use in other countries.

"Such an assurance has been guaranteed by the Indian government. This is just to ensure that in the case of a national emergency, the government does not stake claim to the entire production, leaving nothing for global use," said the institute's senior director Satish Ravetkar.

Though the government has given the go-ahead for mass-scale production of the H1N1 influenza vaccine, it has yet to give firm orders to either the Serum institute or the two other Indian companies -- Panacea Biotec, New Delhi, and Bharat Biotech, Hyderabad — about the quantity requirements.

"We have given approvals to these three companies to get seed strains from Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the UK-based National Institute for Biological Standards and Control (NIBSC) to start preliminary research," said Drug Controller General of India Surinder Singh.

The companies will now have to go through the other stages of development like preclinical trials and clinical tests.

Scientists at the Serum institute expect to have the vaccine ready by September. They are also preparing a limited human trial involving at least 25 volunteers. However, it will be another six months before the vaccine is ready for mass use.

In the event of an emergency, WHO has clarified that countries could relax some of the stringent provisions related to approvals to speed up the vaccine's availability to fight a raging swine flu pandemic.

Authorities in China have been more proactive and the Beijing city government has already placed the order to supply at least four million doses by the end of September to local vaccine maker Sinovac.

This will be administered to 2 million people in the high risk group. Additional orders are expected beginning in October and, in total, Sinovac expects to supply approximately 10 million doses to the Beijing government.

The 10 million doses will be administered to 5 million people in Beijing.

Indians are waiting for a similar announcement from their government. Of course, the government is not too worried because of the mild form of infection that has surfaced in the country so far.

Yet again, the technological prowess demonstrated by the Serum institute, in developing an influenza vaccine in the shortest possible time, could benefit millions across the globe. India scrambles for germ-free eggs for swine flu vaccines

New Delhi (IANS): The crack team at the Pune-based Serum Institute of India, which is charged with creating a vaccine for swine flu, is confronted with a problem — sourcing enough chicken eggs free of pathogens, or germs, to grow the vaccine.

Luckily, Venkateshwara Hatcheries, India's largest poultry farm, is situated in the very city where there was panic among residents after the first death on account of swine flu August 3.

"Currently the company will supply us about 1,00,000 pathogen-free eggs," Suresh Jadhav of the Serum institute told the Indian edition of "Technology Review", the 109-year publication of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

"But if there is an urgent requirement to step up the vaccine production, they will be able to give us up to 2.5 million eggs a month," Mr. Jadhav was further quoted as telling the magazine, published in India by CyberMedia.

There are two farms in Bangalore as well that could be roped in if the swine flu virus spins out of control in India. Over 700 confirmed swine flu cases have been reported in India till on Friday.

Under the scheme supported by the World Health Organisation (WHO), Serum Institute is committed to providing at least 10 per cent of itsproduction of vaccine against swine flu for use in other countries.

"Such an assurance has been guaranteed by the Indian government. This is just to ensure that in the case of a national emergency, the government does not stake claim to the entire production, leaving nothing for global use," said the institute's senior director Satish Ravetkar.

Though the government has given the go-ahead for mass-scale production of the H1N1 influenza vaccine, it has yet to give firm orders to either the Serum institute or the two other Indian companies -- Panacea Biotec, New Delhi, and Bharat Biotech, Hyderabad — about the quantity requirements.

"We have given approvals to these three companies to get seed strains from Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the UK-based National Institute for Biological Standards and Control (NIBSC) to start preliminary research," said Drug Controller General of India Surinder Singh.

The companies will now have to go through the other stages of development like preclinical trials and clinical tests.

Scientists at the Serum institute expect to have the vaccine ready by September. They are also preparing a limited human trial involving at least 25 volunteers. However, it will be another six months before the vaccine is ready for mass use.

In the event of an emergency, WHO has clarified that countries could relax some of the stringent provisions related to approvals to speed up the vaccine's availability to fight a raging swine flu pandemic.

Authorities in China have been more proactive and the Beijing city government has already placed the order to supply at least four million doses by the end of September to local vaccine maker Sinovac.

This will be administered to 2 million people in the high risk group. Additional orders are expected beginning in October and, in total, Sinovac expects to supply approximately 10 million doses to the Beijing government.

The 10 million doses will be administered to 5 million people in Beijing.

Indians are waiting for a similar announcement from their government. Of course, the government is not too worried because of the mild form of infection that has surfaced in the country so far.

Yet again, the technological prowess demonstrated by the Serum institute, in developing an influenza vaccine in the shortest possible time, could benefit millions across the globe.

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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2009, 05:49:18 pm »
It's going top be an interesting fall. Who among the sheeple will stand up against forced vaccinations?
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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2009, 05:57:34 pm »
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200908091213.htm

..."Authorities in China have been more proactive and the Beijing city government has already placed the order to supply at least four million doses by the end of September to local vaccine maker Sinovac.

This will be administered to 2 million people in the high risk group. Additional orders are expected beginning in October and, in total, Sinovac expects to supply approximately 10 million doses to the Beijing government.

The 10 million doses will be administered to 5 million people in Beijing."

3 Reasons to Be Scared of These Stocks
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Veteran Global Gains members know what we love about China. There's tremendous potential upside there, with many cheap stocks ready to explode in value -- especially among smaller companies.

We can never emphasize enough, however, the dangers that lurk in the world's most populous country -- the nasty traits of some Chinese businesses that make us fear and loathe them.

An emerging giant
There are nearly 2,000 public companies in China. About 450 are listed in the U.S., with that number growing all the time. And many of them are future multibaggers that will make their shareholders rich. Look around, and you'll find businesses such as Sinovac Biotech (AMEX: SVA) and AgFeed Industries (Nasdaq: FEED), up 215% and 299%, respectively, in just the past six months alone.

But we can't pretend these types of winners are easy to find. If you don't know the lay of the land -- the ins and outs of Chinese political structure -- you could quite literally lose a fortune.

Here are just three of the problems to look out for:
 1. Hard-to-decipher financials
The Economist magazine sums it up better than I can: "The financial results of companies that global investors wish to buy into can be as unintelligible as the dialect spoken in the company town. It is said (with apparent sincerity) that some Chinese firms keep several sets of books — one for the government, one for company records, one for foreigners and one to report what is actually going on."

In fairness, this was written a couple of years ago, and Chinese financials are a bit easier to understand now. And there's no doubt that American companies also do not make available the books we'd really like to see. Even the ones we can see aren't necessarily easy to decipher -- Bank of America (NYSE: BAC) and Fannie Mae (NYSE: FNM) are perfect examples.

But there's little question that we simply can't get the same lucidity and transparency from Chinese companies that we do from domestic firms.

2. Questionable quality of earnings
Quality of earnings refers to the extent to which financial reporting can be trusted. The more conservative management is with its assumptions, the better we feel about the numbers it reports. A 2008 Barron's article relayed a pretty sobering study from RateFinancials, an independent firm that rates financial reports. Looking at the five largest recent Chinese IPOs -- including LDK Solar and Yingli Green Energy -- RateFinancials found problems with "big increases in receivables, negative operating and free-cash flows, significant amounts of deferred revenues, major prepayments, and sizable long-term commitments to suppliers."

3. Poor corporate governance

China is "perceived to routinely engage in bribery when doing business abroad," according to Transparency International. And in TI's 2008 corruption report, the country falls well below any comfortable level, ranking 72nd. That doesn't mean every Chinese company is dicey, of course, but investors must be on guard. So while investors can check Yahoo! Finance and see that U.S.-based Halliburton (NYSE: HAL), for example, has a much higher-than-average corporate governance rating in the energy sector, such easy tools don't exist for Chinese companies...."

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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2009, 07:27:27 pm »
So did I. Some flu vaccines don't contain it.

Not exactly. It's possible they all contain thimerosal. It's hard to say for sure because the FDA plays a word game with this "preservative-free" label. If the FDA considers the quantity of thimerosal present in the vaccine insufficient to act as a preservative, it labels the vaccine preservative-free.

http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm

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« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2009, 07:38:32 pm »
Not exactly. It's possible they all contain thimerosal. It's hard to say for sure because the FDA plays a word game with this "preservative-free" label. If the FDA considers the quantity of thimerosal present in the vaccine insufficient to act as a preservative, it labels the vaccine preservative-free.

http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm
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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2009, 08:40:47 pm »
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This just makes my stomache turn, man oh man, babies, and children.
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« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2009, 09:18:16 pm »
Corporate Media in U.S. Ignores Report N1H1 Vaccine Link to Guillain-Barré Syndrome
http://www.infowars.com/corporate-media-in-u-s-ignores-report-n1h1-vaccine-link-to-guillain-barre-syndrome/
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A Google News search this morning returns no mention of the Guillain-Barré Syndrome link to the experimental H1N1 vaccine in the U.S. media.   
   
28,000 people in the U.S. will participate in a government trial of the experimental H1N1 vaccine.

The story has made the rounds in the British press. “The Health Protection Agency (HPA) has asked doctors to check for increases in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) once the national vaccination programme begins,” the Telegraph reports. “According to the Mail on Sunday, two letters were posted together to neurologists advising them of the concerns. The first, dated July 29, was written by Professor Elizabeth Miller, head of the HPA’s Immunization Department.”

The Times Online, Sky News, and the Daily Mail also ran stories on the warning. Alternative news sites in the United States reported on the link but the New York Times, the Washington Post, and other corporate media sources are silent as of this morning.

28,000 people in the U.S. will participate in a government trial of the experimental H1N1 vaccine. “Volunteers will be checked closely for any side effects. They’ll also be monitored for Guillain-Barre syndrome, which was reported in people who received a swine flu vaccine 33 years ago. It’s a rare syndrome usually triggered by a viral infection, and no one knows for sure if the vaccine is also a trigger,” KPBS reported on August 10.

Adult volunteers for the clinical trials will be recruited at 8 separate sites including Emory University in Atlanta, the University of Maryland School of Medicine in Baltimore, Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Children’s Hospital Medical Center in Cincinnati, Group Health Cooperative in Seattle, the University Iowa in Iowa City, and St. Louis University, Deborah Shlian reported for the Examiner on July 28.

The initial tests will be of vaccines made by Sanofi-Pasteur, a European company, and CLS Biotherapies, an Australian company that has supplied seasonal flu shots in the U.S. for years. Novartis is also conducting separate trials for FDA licensing.
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« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2009, 09:35:43 pm »
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Don't worry about swine flu vaccines, says WHO


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Surinder Sud / New Delhi August 17, 2009, 1:20 IST


There’s no need to worry on the safety or efficacy of the anti-swine flu vaccines being currently developed in different countries, said the World Health Organization.

Taking notice of the fears being expressed in different quarters on the safety or risks in using the vaccines, the WHO said the regulatory procedures in place for the licencing of pandemic vaccines, including procedures for expediting regulatory approval, are rigorous and do not compromise safety or quality.

Drug companies in several countries are in an advanced stage of developing a H1N1 influenza vaccine to check the swine flu pandemic which has swept across over 160 countries, affecting over 1.5 million (confirmed cases; actual number may be far higher) and killing nearly 1,000 persons. In India, too, over two dozen people have lost their lives due to swine flu in recent weeks, in different cities.

Some Indian drug companies are also engaged in developing a swine flu vaccine based on the seed strain of H1N1 influenza virus provided by the WHO. However, it may take a few months to develop and test the vaccines and get approval for their general use.

In a statement issued from Geneva, the WHO has said: “Influenza vaccines have been used for over 60 years and have an established record of safety in all age groups.”

At the same time, it has also cautioned that some adverse events may arise during a pandemic when the vaccine is administered on a massive scale.

“Some adverse events, which may be too rare to show up even in large clinic trials, may become apparent when very large numbers of people receive a pandemic vaccine,” the WHO has said, while maintaining that such cases will be rare.

It has observed that nearly 50 million people had died in the 1918 world-wide influenza pandemic, largely because vaccines had not been developed by then.
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'Vaccination Overdose' by Sylvie Simon
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/emma_holister/2004/10/16/vaccination_overdose_by_sylvie_simon.htm
October 16, 2004

"Civil responsibility is a form of protest and calls for more responsibility. This principle will become more and more relevant with the development of science and associated techniques. People will not blindly believe in those who act on their behalf. The contaminated-blood affair, among others, might perhaps never have come about if someone had blown the whistle in time."
-Andre Glucksmann

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"Sylvie Simon's approach to the detail and data of the problem will empower those who favour freedom of choice and, therefore, rejection of obligatory practices sustained and perpetuated by dubious 'experts' who are out of date by being out of touch with the progress of science in this field. Nor can we avoid the view that the objective is less the health of the public than the profits of the pharmaceutical companies.


All this throws light on the scandals that disturb our daily life and threaten our economy. Those responsible never pay, and the incompetent or dishonest 'experts' are always with us. That they are exposed by the facts and even by some politicians, yet rest untroubled, is an indication of the financial clout at their disposal.

Our thanks are due to Sylvie Simon for bringing us up to date on what will be one of the great scandals of the future. Her work will enable victims to understand how their condition came about, caused by those - the 'implicated but not guilty' - whose mission is to protect them."  Jacqueline Bousquet - Doctor of Science (Biology-Biophysiology) CNRS Honorary Researcher

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PRINCIPLES OF VACCINATION
BY SYLVIE SIMON
Translated by Harry Clarke

"We are still living with a deceitful government, a compliant press, corruption and an overriding cynicism."

-Jim Garrison (1988) - American Prosecutor who led the enquiry into the assassination of John F Kennedy.

The history of vaccination is full of implausibilities and errors. Everything has been said on the subject except what would have discredited it in the eyes of the world and questioned its fundamental basis. From the beginning, when Jenner wanted to vaccinate instead of "variolate", right up to the present time, everything depended on the conditioning of minds.

Vaccinations are favoured today, for we have become dependent consumers, always 'wanting more' and manufacturers have well understood this dependency. Vaccinations reflect the concept of having the disease, the role of the doctor and the control of individual and collective health, a concept that leads to reliance on others as opposed to taking responsibility for oneself,

Vaccination was practised at a time when nothing was known about microbes, viruses or the immune system. Nevertheless, it was soon promoted to the first rank of general medical practice, routinely applied and unquestioned. It took on the aspects of a faith rather than of a science.

Convinced that in this practice they had a panacea, supporters imposed it worldwide in mass campaigns, expanded programmes and laws making it compulsory. It became an ideology to which a few had to be sacrificed in order to protect the many.

An apparently easy solution, notionally simple, vaccination offers a convenience unlike that of any other medical practice and, if its development required a measure of investment, the compensation was profit and commercial success.

It began at the end of the 18th century, to protect against smallpox. The English doctor, Edward Jenner, experimented with inoculation of the bovine disease, cowpox, which was considered similar to variola (or small pox, as opposed to the great pox, syphilis), a disease of man.

Vaccination's fascination, with upper-class notables lauding it, masked the reality since there was lively opposition from the very beginning.

What did Jenner do? He simply replaced the pus of smallpox, which was transferred from arm to arm (variolation), by the pus from the lesions on the cow (vaccination). In time this pus was put through several stages before administration but Jenner's first vaccine, crude and empirical though it was, was given to millions across the globe. Variolation was spreading smallpox. Vaccination stopped the spread by replacing one pus with another, and by halting the multiplication of sources. But it was no great advance for all that because it opened the way for a more complex infection. For the first time an element of another species was introduced, directly into the body, this being DNA from the genes of another animal and, moreover, a sick animal. Thus the consequences may be measurable only after several decades or longer. At the end of the 18th century man had enabled the passage of micro-organisms from one species to another. The species barrier had been crossed, beginning the animalisation of man, or the 'minotaurisation of the human species', according to Pierre Darmon in La Longue Traque de la Variole (Pierre Darmon, Perrin, 1986). This aspect, though unremarked by the public, should not have escaped the attention of scientists, because it determined an ensemble of unnatural phenomena which called for caution. Jenner introduced the era of the apprentice sorcerers.

Observation had often shown that when an infectious disease is contracted it is not contracted again - hence the idea of inoculation of microbes or viruses whose toxicity had been weakened so as to provoke a benign form of the disease capable of producing a reaction and thus protect the organism against a future serious attack.

The concept was not without substance, for the procedure favoured prevention, although the basis and harmlessness of the practice remained unclear. That an organism could accustom itself to a poison and thus acquire resistance to it is a principle recognised since antiquity. It was immortalised by King Mithridate, who, according to legend, had acquired immunity to poisons from stronger and stronger doses. Each syringe contains a concentrated dose of vaccine, including added material. VIDAL, the professional's dictionary of medicine notes the components for each vaccine.

What's in a Vaccine?

Standard manufacture uses a bacterial or viral antigen, e.g. a germ, bacterium or virus, which may be killed, generally with formol or great heat, or may be living but attenuated. The attenuation can be obtained by heat (e.g. the whooping-cough vaccine) or by rapid passage in a culture (BCG by 230 passages in potatoes mixed with beef bile; or measles by 85 passages in chicken fibroblasts - cells derived from eyelid mucus).

Bacterial vaccines can contain all of the bacterium (whooping-cough vaccine) or can be acellular (only antigenic fragments). Diphtheria and tetanus vaccines are 'anatoxins' - they contain only the toxin (attenuated) produced by the bacteria and supposed to be responsible for the disease.

Cell cultures are required for viral vaccines since viruses lack autonomy - they can exist only in a cell. The prerequisites are often obtained from animals: from monkey kidneys for polio vaccine; from hamster ovaries for hepatitis-B vaccine; from rabbit brain for rabies vaccine; from chicken embryos for mumps vaccine; and from foetuses for rubella vaccine.

Industrial production of vaccines requires cell lines from a vaccine strain (e.g. Vero strain for polio vaccine) that is cancerised for reproduction to infinity. The use of these continuous lines raises problems of purity. World Healh Orgainisation report 747 (1986) raised objections to cellular substrates for vaccine manufacture since they could be contaminated with unknown viruses such as SV40, which has been associated with cancer, by DNA contamination or by mutagenic proteins.

Culture cells can grow only if nourished, generally by calf serum containing growth factors (cf. National Cancer Institute Monograph, 29 December 1968, pp 63-70). We may wonder if there is not a risk of prion propagation. In the context of an evaluation of microbial safety of medicines the French Medicines Agency has just withdrawn five homeopathic remedies derived from human microbial strains. In addition, by decree, 28 October 1998, the Health Minister has banned "any homeopathic preparation from human strains, particularly when ready-made or prepared specially" (Journal Officiel, 5 November 1998). But vaccines escape this precautionary measure...

To avoid bacterial contamination of culture cells, which occurs frequently, the laboratories use antibiotics, e.g. Neomycin, which is to be feared by those who are allergic to Pentacoq vaccine, for example. Hence Dr Jean Pilette, the Belgian doctor who has studied the polio vaccine in particular: "Any product from living matter presents unknown factors". (See his La Poliomyélite... Which Vaccine? Which Risk? L'Aronde).

To make these vaccines more active an adjuvant is introduced, with the aim of augmenting the immune response, which might otherwise fail to occur. Hence we deduce that the efficacy of these vaccines is such that that their advocates are forced to adopt such tricks as adding chemical toxins to their soups.

At present the adjuvant mainly used is aluminium hydroxide, and this is a product that often causes serious allergies. And for a number of years aluminium has been linked to Alzheimer's Disease. In VIDAL we find that each dose of the hepatitis-B vaccine (Engerix or Genhevac) - as also the DTP-polio - contains "not more than" 1250 µg of aluminium hydroxide, whereas the official non-toxic dose is 15 µg/litre of blood, and more than 150 µg is definitely toxic for the nerve cells. Most vaccinations contain a preservative based on mercury, and VIDAL refers to stabilisers and excipients in its less-than-expansive remarks on vaccine ingredients. We learn also that a unidose of the Pasteur DTP contains 0.5 ml of vaccine, of which 0. 005 ml is phenoxyethanol (excipient) and 0.1 mg formic aldehyde for 1.25 mg of aluminium hydroxide (preservative).

In other words, vaccines contain several potentially dangerous toxic products that oblige the body to recognise and neutralise them, if possible. These mechanisms are different from those called into play in the natural response to disease. Thus vaccination puts different demands on the immune system from those that apply when the real thing comes along.

Vaccines are currently produced by gene techniques, i.e. instead of using a virus or bacterium, certain segments of its chromosomes are isolated and grafted on to others to obtain hybrid elements that do not exist in nature. The result is not a synthetic but a recombinant vaccine - a manipulation of live material. The antigen fragments are then cultivated in substrates (e.g. yeast for the hepatitis-B vaccine). Adjuvants, preservatives, antibiotics, etc are then added as for traditional vaccines. We are told - untruthfully - that these new vaccines are purer, therefore less dangerous. But they can activate oncogenes, repress anti-oncogenes or modify genes in one way or another. Hence they can be factors in the process of cancerisation.

Vaccines Adsorbed on Aluminium Hydroxide

Where tetanus is concerned, for example, the procedure to alter its toxin requires precipitation on sulphate of ammonium, or an adsorption (fixation of a substrate, molecule, atom or ion at the surface of another substance). This operation provides a toxin that is attenuated but possessing enhanced antigenic power by virtue of the new chemical component.

Pasteur BCG contains 800 000 to 3200 000 units of Koch bacilli - hardly negligible doses. Then, even attenuated or killed vaccines are not dead or neutral, since they must retain immunising power if they are to produce a reaction from the immune system. Their active principle is therefore to cause disease and insofar as the sought-after effect is to provoke the malady, vaccines represent a traumatising jolt to the organism. Thus they entail permanent modifications to the cells, for the product that is injected is not a simple poison, which the body's elimination processes can clear, filter and purify via the liver, kidneys, etc. It is not a matter of Mithridisation for vaccination brings into play infinitely more complex mechanisms. Our knowledge of these is very imperfect, immunity as a science being only 50 years old.

The Immune System

Vaccinations are supposed to confer immunity, but what is immunity ? It is our capacity to resist disease, the outcome of the activity of our immune system, which regulates our defences to protect our biological identity, just as the function of the blood system is to irrigate the body, bringing nourishment and oxygen to the cells. But the body is a whole and its different control systems operate in close collaboration in that damage to one entails some effect on others. Thus when pathogenic agents or physical or psychological shocks threaten our equilibrium, the immune system organises and sets in motion a chain of reactions each with an important role to play at its own level. The mobilisation of all these reactions will be proportional to the nature of the attack. Sometimes our defences are overwhelmed and serious danger threatens, but our immune system is a powerful mechanism of great precision and surprising efficiency: it can withstand any assault so long as it is enabled to function optimally.

At birth, the system is not fully developed and it will be some years before it is self-sufficient. During the first months the baby is protected by the immunity passed on by the mother - it does not yet have its own identity. Gradually, this 'passive' immunity will be replaced by its own, created by virtue of the germs encountered from day to day. In time this acquired immunity will provide a stout armour that will enable the infant to withstand the tests that life will impose, such as childhood disease, the problems of growth and the psychological crises that will help form the personality, different for each individual. Vaccinations intrude on this process as uncontrollable disturbances. In his 3-volume Constitution of Animal and Vegetable Organisms; Causes of Diseases that Affect Them (Published by Laboratoire de physiologie générale (3 volumes), Paris 1926,1936,1946), J. Tissot, Professor of Physiology at the Natural History Museum, who had done experimental studies of microbes in vivo and in vitro, puts us on guard : "Immunity by vaccination is acquired only when it confers the chronic phase of the disease - which is really to be avoided - a phase that entails fearsome complications in the short or long term."

We live in symbiosis with microbes. They surround us and are part of us. We should not forget that they are living and, perforce, need to feed and reproduce. Taking advantage of the opportunity provided by humans, they try for a niche in which to exist. They do not seek to attack us; they only want to live and are no more deadly pathogens than any other cohabitants. To treat them as enemies is to adopt the logic of war and runs counter to natural processes and imperils the ecosystem.

The work of Antoine Béchamp, Jean Tissot, R R Rife, Léon Grigoraki, and Gaston Naessens, to mention a very few, direct us to the same theory: the smallest elements that govern life are endowed with powers of transformation that allow them to take on various forms and have diverse effects on our bodies.

It is not the germs that provoke disease; it is breakdown of metabolic equilibrium. The germs begin to proliferate when the organism changes and disorganisation sets in. Certain pathogenic agents can persist without causing damage; others can trigger disease without the presence of antibodies. Man is obsessed with the idea that polio can kill or handicap endlessly, whereas millions of infants are infected with the virus with no sign of the disease, the microbe being a "table companion" in the intestines.

In nature nothing is lost, nothing is created, nothing dies, all is transformed. The infinitely small changes unceasingly. A virus can become a bacillus, then a mould (fungus), and inversely. Most of life's elements undergo cycles and are protean. Man himself evolved from fish to mammal. The Russian biologist, Bochian, has shown that elements in the filtrate in tuberculin can revert to bacilli and become pathogenic (Soviet Studies, July 1950). Micro-organisms are principally endogenous and are compounds of more complex vital elements. Their function is to participate in the maintenance of life.

In his article, A Possible Cause of Aids and Other Diseases, published in 1984, Professor Richard Delong, Virologist at Toledo (USA) University, wrote: "Everything supports the belief that that there is a definite equilibrium between the human immune system and natural viruses. Breaking this state could have unforeseeable consequences". (Medical Hypotheses,Vol 395, No 13, 1984).

In 1983 John Shaw Billings, the public-health specialist, had said: "It is important to note that simply introducing microbes into a living organism does not automatically provoke their multiplication and the disease. The condition of the organism itself has a great bearing on the result."


TRUE AND FALSE HEROES

"It seems to me a service to reveal the means employed by the immoral to corrupt the moral." Pierre Choderlos de Laclos

Many a famous man hides a very different face behind the image he likes to present. Louis Pasteur (1822 - 1895) is an example. Adopted as a hero, a model scientific researcher and a benefactor of humanity, he has inspired a cult, a myth, a legend. Are the many honours merited? Has his promotion to the halls of fame been to the detriment of some of his contemporaries, whose work and discoveries were of greater use to mankind? And if so, why?

Historians like Dr Philippe Decourt, Ethyl Douglas Hume, G Gerald Geison, Xavier Raspail, Daniel Raichvarg and others have provided answers. By close re-reading of the past they have breached the myth and highlighted the real Pasteur. Like Pierre Thuillier, for example, in La science existait-il? , we can acknowledge that "contrary to the golden legend, science advances thanks to extremely daring conjectures, clever but often very doubtful experiments, and attempts at success as diverse as irrational" Nevertheless, Pasteur has not honoured science, imperfect though it might be. Probity required that he recognise his mistakes and be open to criticism, as any rigorous researcher would. But Pasteur was too vain, too attracted by honours and too partial to glory, and he sacrificed honour and truth to it all. He claimed for himself discoveries made by others. Like a real con man and with the help of accomplices he doctored unfavourable experimental results and tyrannically refused to discuss them.

Over some years, Ethyl Douglas Hume consulted the Pasteur archives and, in a book published in 1947, Béchamp ou Pasteur - A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology, he came down against the celebrated founder of microbiology and vaccination: "Pasteur, ambitious man, opportunistic, a genius at self-promotion, plagiarised then vulgarised Béchamp's work.

"He stole his concept of small organisms but revealed only part of Béchamp's discoveries, Pasteur declared that these organisms came only from outside. He omitted to say that, in the open air, microbes and other morbid microzymes (anormal) soon lose their virulence,And the lie is perpetuated today..".

All these facts are reported in well-authenticated writings and should be enough to diminish Pasteur and knock him off his pedestal. But not at all; so well-anchored is the Pasteur myth in the public mind that nothing has yet succeeded in shaking it loose. With chauvinism at work from one year to the next France adds to Pasteur's laurels, but the sad reality is that the French are adulating an impostor. For imposture it certainly is. He usurped honours and amassed a considerable fortune in doing so, as numerous episodes in his life will illustrate. Let us look at three of these.

Rabies Vaccine

History has recorded it only as a success but forgotten that it increased rabies deaths. Rather than a success it was a failure. No-one has been able to prove its efficacy, at first because it was practically impossible to prove that the dogs involved were rabid and then because so many vaccinees died that nobody wanted to take account of them. The deaths of six Russian peasants bitten by a wolf and vaccinated by Pasteur makes one shudder, such was their suffering. In Souvenirs des milieux littéraires, politiques, artistiques et médicaux de 1880 à 1905, Léon Daudet relates the story and conveys something of their agony.

Not many are familiar with this episode, but everyone has heard of Joseph Meister, bitten on the hand by a dog. Pasteur "saved" him by his Méthode pour Prévenir La Rage après Morsure (title of his communication to the Académie des Sciences, 26 October 1885) but he had no trumpet to blow. Firstly, it was not certain that the dog was rabid. Secondly, if it had been, the risk for the boy was small because a truly rabid animal - a rare event - transmits the disease in only 5 - 15 per cent of cases. Where Joseph Meister was concerned, the degree of risk was no more than 5 per cent if the dog was definitely infected. And to proclaim the efficacy of a treatment on the basis of one subject has no scientific value.

What was most serious in this affair were Pasteur's lies. Contrary to all that we are taught, the rabies vaccine was not created by Pasteur but by a professor at Toulouse Veterinary School, Henri Toussaint, whose name has not gone down in history. Toussaint succeeded in high attenuation of the virulence by heating the preparation and by adding an antiseptic, phenolic acid, at one per cent (and/or potassium bichromate). Pasteur's vaccine, based on dried marrow, was highly dangerous and was quickly abandoned - his collaborator, Emile Roux, had concluded that the vaccine was hazardous and refused to associate himself with the initial "intensive treatment". Young Meister was fortunate to escape the vaccine.

Pasteur's collaborator, Emile Roux, had decided that it was hazardous to use his colleague's vaccine and he had refused to be associated with the first so-called "intensive treatment".

The drama of a 12-year-old child who died as a consequence of the vaccination revealed the dishonesty of Pasteur and his colleagues. The boy Rouyer was bitten on 8 October 1886 by an unknown dog. Pasteur inoculated him by the intensive method (seven injections over 12 days). On 16 October the child died. An inquiry under Professor Brouardel sought the cause but the lofty, titled, professor was a friend of Pasteur. In Emile Roux's laboratory they inoculated part of the cervical bulb from the boy into the brains of rabbits. Some days later the rabbits died of rabies, which proved that the child clearly had the disease but Brouardel, in agreement with Roux, decided to falsify the evidence before the inquiry. In Les Vérités Indésirables - Le Cas Pasteur, Philippe Decourt records that it was a matter of avoiding official acknowledgement of a failure that would entail, according to Brouardel, "an immediate step backwards in the progress of science" as well as dishonour to Pasteur.

The report to the coroner confirmed that: "These two rabbits are in good health today, 9 January 1887, i. e. 48 hours after the inoculation. The negative results of the inoculations on the bulb of this child enables us to discount the hypothesis that the young Rouyer had succumbed to rabies". In collusion with Roux and Brouardel, Pasteur declared that death was due to uraemia.

Not content with falsification, Pasteur and his accomplices sought to silence those who knew the truth. One lie leads to another, for Brouardel went on to affirm that none of 50 people given the intensive treatment had died. "He knew that it wasn’t true but no matter since they would believe it", Decourt noted.

In 1886 the number of deaths where liability attached to the Pasteur method had risen to 74, 34 in France and 40 abroad. Certain of these were attributable to rabies but others were associated with "laboratory rabies", as it came to be known. These laboratory cases presented symptoms of rabiform paraplegia as observed in the rabbits used to cultivate the Pasteur virus (see Raspail et Pasteur: 30 ans de Critiques Médicales et Scientifique -1884 - 1914, Vigot Frères, Paris 1916). Pasteur himself indicated that from 9 November 1885 to 30 December 1986 nine of 18 vaccinees died in the three weeks after being bitten.

In March 1886 he told Dr Navarre: "From now on I won't accept discussion of my theories and my method. I won't have anyone coming to monitor my experiments".

We see here a practice that was to become institutionalised - the scientific lie. What confidence can we have in hallowed men of science who make off-hand statements like this?

Pouilly-le-Fort Experiment

The anti-rabies vaccine was Pasteur's first great triumph, although it was preceded by the vaccine against anthrax, which was rampant in cattle. Pasteur vigorously opposed Henry Toussaint's theories and practices, which he said were ineffective and dangerous. To prove that his vaccine was better he agreed a protocol of experiments that would come to fruition on 28 August 81 at Pouilly-le-Fort, near Melun. They would select 50 sheep, only 25 of which would be vaccinated and all the animals would be inoculated with virulent anthrax 15 days later. Pasteur said that the unvaccinated sheep would die. On the appointed day Pasteur confided to his associates that he would not use his own vaccine but Toussaint's, which contained an antiseptic capable of attenuating the virulence of the anthrax bacteria. (For some considerable time Pasteur had tried to achieve comparable attenuation with oxygen). The sheep received the Toussaint vaccine, containing potassium bichromate, a powerful poison that kills microbes (and provokes cancer). These facts are recorded by Adrien Loir in A l'ombre de Pasteur (Le Mouvement sanitaire, 1938). So these 25 sheep survived and Pasteur triumphed.

Who today is aware that the Pouilly le Fort experiment was no more than a hoax?

Silk-Worm Disease

One could multiply examples of Pasteur's tricks. His method was simple,While deploring the methods of others he proceeded to appropriate them and thus garnered further laurels. Another example that well illustrates his technique is the silk-worm episode, where he was directly opposed to Antoine Béchamp. Hostile to the theory of parasitism, carefully developed by Béchamp, Pasteur turned the situation to his advantage by letting it appear that the theory was his, thus relegating Béchamp's work to the shade.

The affair of the soluble ferments in 1878 was similar. This gave rise to a controversy which lasted 18 months between Pasteur and the chemist, Berthelot. Pasteur refused to acknowledge the evidence and maintained his belief in spontaneous generation, which he later repudiated, whilst shamelessly plundering Béchamp's work when he saw that the other man was right.

But these scientists' quarrels were relatively unimportant against the backdrop of a development, stimulated at the time by the economic boom born out of the industrial revolution: the vaccine industry.

How has it come about that the world has suffered the imposition of a doctrine whose basis is so contestable? In his "La Felure du Monde" (Flammarion 1995) André Glucksmann tried to explain these Pasteurian mirages: "The vanity of Pasteurism discloses more than a sure science and less than an effective art -a religion. Pasteur has expressed, in terms of biopower, the constituent equation of modern nations, cujus regio ejus religio... Without Pasteurian blinkers AIDS seems less unthinkable than one would have believed".

Pasteur pushed scientists down a false road by his three postulates, and these are still the foundation of vaccination. They were developed by Pasteur and recorded in his submissions to a commission of the Académie de Médicine between 1869 and 1872:

1) Asepsis reigns in the cells. The cell is clean; all the microbes are exogenous.

2) For each germ (specific agent) there is a corresponding disease, against which we can protect with a vaccine. The disease has only a single cause, therefore a single remedy.

3) Immunity is obtained by production of antibodies in reaction to the introduction of antigens (substances in the vaccine). The antigen-antibody combination is sufficient to confer protection.


We have long known that disease is never the result of a single cause, a single culprit. It is always multifactorial

Numerous mechanisms, sometimes very sophisticated, come into play and lead to dysfunction expressed in clinical symptoms. If the germs were the only cause every contact would fall ill. But that does not happen, so "one germ, one disease, one vaccine" is simplistic and reductionist.

As regards microbes, viruses or bacteria as invading aggressors bent on doing us harm - are they really our enemies? Recent research in molecular biology suggests otherwise. And the work of Antoine Béchamp and, later, Professsor Jean Tissot, has already shown the endogenous origin (internal) of micro-organisms (Les Mycrozymas, Antione Béchamp, out of print).

"Microbe" is imprecise in respect of bacteria. A bacterium is the more promiscuous form of the living cell, whereas a virus reproduces itself from its own genetic material and is an absolute parasite on the cell.

Biologist Gaston Naessens has recently invented a microscope by which Béchamp's work has been corroborated and completed. As mentioned earlier, viruses are cell constituents and if they become pathogenic it is because there is disequilibrium. Hence when an infant has measles we find the virus specific to measles. But if the virus is expressed it is because the organism is enfeebled.

And, as with all viruses, rather than being the cause they are a consequence of the disease.

As regards bacteria, we see a similar phenomenon. In nature bacteria appear where there is decomposition. In the body, bacteria are found where there is disequilibrium, accumulation of residues and dead cells, where they find nourishment - and they are capable of degrading and ingesting everything. In fact, humans have ten times more bacteria than cells.

They maintain biological equilibrium; without them we die, and they become pathogenic only with change in physiological equilibrium or breakdown of the immune system. For example, the intestines are full of colibacilli and many saprophytic bacteria (that live on the organism by feeding on decomposing matter). These bacteria contribute to fermentation of digestive residues and to the synthesis of vitamins. But, in the event of disequilibrium, they precipitate diarrhoea, appendicitis and other problems. That is why it is much more sensible to rebalance and clean the body than to kill the microbe.

"If, on return from holiday, you find your house full of dirt, you need to clean it thoroughly. If you squirt insecticide everywhere the house will still be dirty and even worse than before, since you have added toxic substances to the dirt," is the good advice from Dr Lourdes Tornos in El Mundo de los Microbes. (Article in the Spanish review, Natura Medicatrix No 46-47, Spring 1997).

In the 1890s when the Nobel prizewinner, Robert Koch, returned triumphant from the Indies as a hero, a spoilsport awaited him at Munich in the person of the old professor of hygiene, Max Pettenkofer, who had made Munich the cleanest city in Europe by means of effective sanitary services. "Your bacillus can do nothing, my dear Koch. What matters is the organism. If your theory were correct I should be a dead man in 24 hours," he said, snatching from Koch's hands a test tube containing a pure culture of cholera germs. In front of his horrified colleagues he swallowed the lot! Koch was the only one to fall ill.

When we speak of health we need to broach the notion of "terrain", a fundamental notion for those who want to practise true medicine. Let us remember Claude Bernard's summary: "The microbe is nothing; the terrain is everything!". The terrain defines our immunity. It establishes itself gradually, during nine month's gestation and it is unique to the individual. Regular routine vaccinations conflict with Bernard's axiom and lead to disequilibrium. The supposition that mass vaccination has eliminated disease does a great disservice to mankind and the ecosystem since we are all so intimately linked one to the other.

Antoine Béchamp

Antoine Béchamp (1816-1908) was one of the great savants of the 19th century. Doctor, chemist, biologist, naturalist, he was Professor of Medical Chemistry and Pharmacology at the Montpellier Faculty, Professor of Biological Chemistry and Physiology at Paris University, then Dean of Liberal Studies at Lille. He verified Claude Bernard's concept of individual terrain and was the first to understand the microbial basis of infectious pathology. Nevertheless, his work is almost unknown nowadays because it has been systematically discredited and falsified in favour of Pasteur.

Béchamp thought that microbes were a "process", "deriving from a single strain (prebacterialparticles - microzymes - present in all organic structures) which could change size and form according to the health of the host". His theses have since been confirmed by many other researchers and, in 1980, certain bacteriologists (Sorin, Sonea, Panisset, Naessens) confirmed that bacterial polymorphism was an irrefutable scientific fact. "If we upset the bacterial world by our interference, the point may reached at which life on earth is compromised", they said.

It has also been shown that a bacterium can transform into a virus according to the substrate (nutrient culture medium) provided (Introduction a la Nouvelle Bactériologie, S Sonea and M Panisset, Montreal University Press, 1980).

Béchamp, founder of enzymology, identified minuscule corpuscles, microzymes, smaller than cells. These are at the origin of life and are found in both man and animal and in plants and micro-organisms. In humans their form varies with the general state of their home terrain and their nutrition. Disease occurs when disequilibrium disturbs their normal functioning. When there is change in the normal state of health, from malnutrition, poisoning, or physical or psychological stress, the microzymes can transform into pathogenic germs or microbes. To Antoine Béchamp the same microbes could take several forms relative to their milieu - the theory of polymorphism, which, had it been widely recognised, would have revolutionised general perceptions of health and disease. The key, say it supporters, is reinforcing health, which enables the germs to recover their original microzyme form and their protective function. Recreate the right milieu and the microbes disappear and hence the disease also.

In Pasteur's view the microbe causes the disease whereas in Béchamp's opinion the disease generates the microbe, and this argument has continued for more than a 100 years. According to the 250 pages that pharmacist Dr Marie Nonclerq devoted to Béchamp: "In this fight Béchamp was beaten - not because his arguments were mistaken but because Pasteur benefited from circumstances at the time, from his experiments and results, falsified to favour his primary notions. Today this doctoring seems unbelievable. Serious examination in the realm of bacteria showed that the facts simply did not support his ideas. Pasteur had deliberately ignored the work of Béchamp, one of the great 19th-century French scientists, whose considerable oeuvre in chemical synthesis, in biochemistry and pathology of infections goes unrecognised today, having been degraded in favour of the illustrious Pasteur who, unlike Béchamp, had a genius for publicity and for what we now call public relations. Ten years previously in Médecine et Hygiène, Geneva, 23 March 1983, Dr Rentschnick, whose medical orthodoxy goes without saying, wrote: 'I don't believe it was an empty historical quarrel. We are not barred from reflecting on the past when a great man abuses power. We have known other examples, even all the way to the Nobel prize...'"

On his death bed Pasteur declared that Claude Bernard was right, that the microbe was nothing, the terrain everything. If the microbe alone were responsible, how was it that nurses caring for the tuberculous were not infected whereas others, much less exposed to the bacillus, rapidly fell ill with the disease? On this question Claude Bernard came to develop the theory of susceptibility - an innate or acquired tendency to develop certain pathologies.

On 17 June 1906 the Medecin published a letter from Professor Béchamp to his confrere, Dr Vindevogel: "You know better than I that all traditional medicine from smallpox and tuberculosis to common enteritis is the prey of preconceived notions that, to be sustained, require facts imagined as need dictates. Whatever you do they vaccinate, they inject - against all good sense - to kill the microbe and the thoughtless masses will thoroughly approve. Whatever you write to prove that they are mistaken and misled is a waste of time. Poor souls!"

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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2009, 09:49:16 pm »
CHILDHOOD DISEASES

"Man will discover a vaccine that could, from early life, via the body, destroy the tendency to spirituality. In the future we will use a poorly balanced product, which they could very well manufacture, that will prevent spiritual 'folly' - in the material sense, of course."
-Rudolph Steiner, 27 October

1917

"Childhood diseases are clear evidence of the struggles between the I and hereditary forces," suggests Dr Victor Bott in Medecine Anthroposophic (Triades, 1976). Micro-organisms that today can be responsible for certain pathologies are the result of species evolution. We are composed of millions of micro-organisms which, at first, are capable of aggression but which, with time, become beneficent to the point where we cannot live without them. Thus by constant mutation there is constant natural adaptation.

Thus man has gradually acquired and consolidated his immunity. The prime consideration is a symbiosis, an equilibrium, the proof of good health. We exist thanks to our adaptive processes, and childhood diseases are probably a necessary stage in the life of the individual. They enable us to build the personality. Fever expresses a salutary reaction of the body to eliminate toxins, after which episode - a test of the immune system - the child has changed, is strengthened. Surmounting one infection from ones own resources provides for increase in resistance to other diseases.

There is no doubt that disease plays an important role in reinforcing our defences, in the consolidation of the terrain. Traditional medicine is directed only at suppressing symptoms by strong medicaments that assault the system as, for example, in the regular suppression of fever. Worse, by vaccination it professes protection of the individual by preventing emergence of natural disease. In other words it kills, for a sterile microbeless world is synonymous with death.

There has always been a balance between childhood disease, viruses and the environment and it is important to foresee, in the long term, what would upset this equilibrium by vaccinations. At all events, these artificial provocations do not provide the same degree of protection as do the natural processes, antibody levels after an injection generally being lower than those after the disease.

Moreover, immunity acquired naturally is long term; that from vaccination, if any, is time-limited. (For confirmation refer to La Presse Médicale, Vol 17, Supplement No 1, May 1998).

The importance of childhood infections should be acknowledged and their development monitored. Poor nutrition or hygiene, or overtaxing of resources can lead to problems where the child is weak or predisposed to certain maladies. For these children there are various effective therapies in the pharmacopoeia of alternative medicine.

A child is born with maximum potential. Gradually he develops, forges ahead, but not without the occasional rough passage. However, he has all he needs to defend himself against the diseases of childhood. In this regard we do not need to paint a bleak picture. Fear is not a wise councillor. Anxious parents think that vaccinations are the answer, that they save their offspring from many ills. Unfortunately, they only cloud the issue and weaken the terrain. The disease is hindered in expressing itself, but can, nevertheless, develop insidiously into a chronic condition, often incurable. We don't need to dread these diseases. Remaining calm and attentive is the best way to help the child over the hurdle.

In Mon Enfant et les Vaccins (Vivez Soleil, 1994), Dr Françoise Berthoud cites John D Goetelen: "A disease is an important moment in a child's life. It is the first test of conscious distress, the first experience, a crisis to resolve. This crisis has several objectives: the first is to stimulate the natural defences, for let us not forget that we possess the forces to cure ourselves - humans cured themselves before needing medicines, even the natural kind. The second objective is to provoke elimination of accumulated toxic deposits. The third is to correct physical functions, and the fourth is to put the system under test, forcing it to find an answer. Often parents feel powerless, lacking confidence, panicking even. The doctors contribute to the situation with such comments as 'Your child is in danger', or 'There may be complications'. Too often parents, acting from fear rather than confidence, agree to suppressive treatment". Like death, disease is part of life.

A child's immune system doesn't behave like a computer. It cannot confront several pathogens at the same time and assimilate them without consequences. The situation promotes mother-child bonding, the disease providing the opportunity for close dependency and intimacy and this emotional dimension plays a part in the building of personality and should not be avoided, according to sociologist C Marenco (Majeur et vacciné: prevention et idéologie, en Science Sociales et Santé, Vol II, No 3 and 4, pp. 136-165, 1984).

If we believe Dr Mendelsohn, the American pædiatrist, we should not vaccinate young children: "Much of what we are told about vaccinations is simply not true. If I am to abide by deep conviction I would recommend rejection of all vaccination of your child. I have become a fierce opponent of mass immunisation because of its numerous dangers. We blindly inject foreign proteins into children without knowing what harmful effects they may cause." (How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor).

DO VACCINES REALLY PROTECT?

"I rebel against mass medication that puts the sick at the mercy of the commercial interests of the big pharmaceuticals and the murderous interests of vaccine manufacturers." Pie X11

There are many who believe that most epidemics have disappeared because of vaccination and who refuse to question the efficacy of this practice. Yet certain epidemic diseases that ravaged our country have disappeared without any vaccination and the pro-vaccine seem to ignore this fact. Moreover, the plague ran rampant for centuries across the world, yet has vanished without vaccination. Leprosy, which is still endemic in some countries, no longer ravages as in the past and great epidemics of it are no more despite the absence of any leprosy vaccine. Generally speaking, the decline in a disease has always preceded the vaccine for it. And if the disappearance of epidemics is primarily due to vaccines, the diseasesin question should have continued to prosper in areas that did not vaccinate or that abandoned vaccination, whereas epidemiological history demonstrates the opposite. In any event, the international scientific press attests to the fact that epidemics still occur in countries where immunisation is almost total.

In 1348 the black plague killed vast numbers in France and the cholera spread terror during several centuries in our country, yet both disappeared entirely without vaccination. It is perfectly possible that if vaccines had existed for them at the time, and been compulsory, they would have received the credit for eliminating these diseases. But clearly we must assign it to other factors. Since 1949, when compulsory vaccination was abandoned in Britain, the UK has demonstrably shown that dropping compulsion has not entailed a return of epidemics, which runs counter to the argument invoked by those who support continued vaccination.

During almost 50 years the countries of the West have systematically vaccinated, covering virtually their entire populations but, curiously, it is in these countries that diphtheria and polio have reappeared. Hence we must wonder if the vaccines have been as effective as claimed and if the strains used for them have changed, for we are seeing the re-emergence of more aggressive pathologies than those we thought to have been mastered. This phenomenon can be compared to the widespread use of insecticides with the appearance of more dangerous insects, along with the use of herbicides and associated increase in resistant plants.

The inefficacy of some vaccines is sometimes admitted by the pharmaceutical companies themselves. Thus the manufacturer of a hepatitis-B vaccine, SmithKline Beecham: "This vaccine, obligatory for at-risk groups, merits being used more widely, particularly for the young since it seems that, in the USA, vaccination of those at risk had no effect on incidence of the disease there". (In Le Concours Médical, Vol 15, No 4, 1993). Statements like these are particularly instructive in revealing the strategy of the pharmaceutical lobby and of certain public authorities. In this instance we have a pharmaceutical company admitting the failure of its vaccine, yet recommending a vaccine that has had no impact on the disease.

A similar view is taken in Le Concours Médical, No 8, 1993 (Vol 115) by Dr C Sicot, with other doctors, under the title, Medico-Surgical Consultations: "If we look at the experience of the USA, the overall incidence of acute hepatitis B since vaccination for it began has not diminished but has increased from 55 to 63 per 100000 between 1981 and 1987. This disappointing result is not, however, unexpected: coverage of high-risks groups remains unsatisfactory". Zero times zero always gives zero.

It seems that the medical corps goes so far out of its way to avoid understanding why there is recrudescence of the disease after vaccination that it cannot admit that it may even be propagating the disease. On the contrary, it prescribes hepatitis-B jabs for everyone. So we can be sure that this infection will spread, if we are to believe these recent observations. And how can we not attach importance to them when they come down to us from such high places?

It is often noted that a recently vaccinated individual falls victim to the disease in question. Some observers decline to see these accidents as anything more than unfortunate coincidences; others, perhaps wiser and distinctly more curious, think of cause and effect and the dangers associated with injecting microbes and toxins into a healthy organism and thereby making it less resistant because of vaccine stress.

Partisans of vaccination rely on specific arguments to support the efficacy of their method. One such argument amounts to little more than "It works!" Then they bring out the statistics. But efficacy is very relative and can't be verified simply by figures, which are often incomplete, approximate or just manipulated.

Moreover, disappearance of a disease after vaccination is invariably treated as scientific proof of efficacy whereas it is nothing of the sort.

Again, antibody level after injection is often the argument and the protection level declared is quite arbitrary. Clearly, any antigen will produce a reaction and, more often than not, the immune system indicates its response in the form of antibodies. But their presence does not prove that they will protect, i. e. immunise. They are merely evidence of aggression, like discoloration after a blow, or they simply indicate infection, as lighted windows show that the house is occupied. We know now that, in some instances, antibodies play an inverse role: instead of protecting, as assumed, they assist the disease - they act as facilitators. Moreover, the antibodies' regulatory mechanisms may sometimes go into overdrive, the result being antibody-antigens or "complex immunes", which are not destroyed but remain in the body. They can give rise to serious problems such as glomerulonephritis. Duration of activity of induced antibodies is always shorter than that of natural antibodies, which suggests that vaccination activates very different mechanisms from those of the natural process. How does one determine, other than arbitrarily, what the neutralising antibody level is? Of course, vaccines are lauded to the skies if the infection under assault does not develop in the vaccinated, or at least not in the usual form.

Vaccines can provoke a sub-acute phase of the disease, which can appear gradually in more disconcerting forms. What then is the vaccine's efficacy?

A vaccine is intended to hinder the disease but it can pave the way for other ailments when there is weakening of the terrain, which can then be attacked by germs that proliferate and become virulent. Mirko D Grmek, Professor, History of Medicine at the Ecole des Hautes Etudes, has called this phenomenon "pathocenosis", in relation to the appearance and disappearance of epidemics. (Mirko D Grmek, Histoire du SIDA, Payot, 1989, p. 261). Thus smallpox vaccine reinforced Koch bacilli, which helps to explain the widespread TB of the 19th century. Diphtheria vaccination, coupled with whooping-cough vaccination, made the polio virus virulent, hence the epidemics after several years of diphtheria immunisation. Polio vaccination, coupled with other, routine vaccinations, contributed to overload of the immune system and evolution of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. (Refer also to Dr Jean Pilette's La Poliomyélite: quel vaccin? quel risque? L'Aronde, 1997)

Hepatitis-B jabs complement the damage done by the others by attacking the nervous system and provoking auto-immune problems that pave the way to premature ageing.

Withdrawing smallpox vaccination led to a reduction - spectacular in the 80s - in incidence of TB. And, where scarlet fever - rampant in the 19th century - is concerned, this gave way to measles and diphtheria.

Vaccines, and even antibiotics, reduce natural resistance, with the associated effects tending to cancerisation. When it is argued that an individual does not develop a disease because he has been vaccinated and therefore immunised, the reality is that he has lost the vitality to react. Chronic illness can intervene where energy level is low, where the organism cannot respond vigorously because its vitality has been sapped from within.

According to Harris Coulter in Vaccination: Social Violence and Criminality (North Atlantic Books, Berkeley, 1980), any vaccination can trigger encephalitis, slight or severe, accompanied by demyelination, which hinders normal development of the brain with consequent pathological effects leading to handicaps and behavioural problems. In the USA one in five infants have suffered these effects.

Any demyelination can be directly attributed to vaccination, for research has revealed similarities between the make-up of vaccines and the protein structure of myelin. (In Science, Vol 29, 19 July 1985).

This discovery explains the appearance of auto-immune symptoms after immunisation procedures. The immune system confuses antigen with myelin and attacks the latter, hence some of the diseases that become so debilitating over time.

Immunologists are embarrassed by outbreaks of measles, polio, etc in vaccinated populations. In Medical Practice (No 467) Professor Lépine states: "In several developing countries it is thought that a single vaccination campaign will resolve the problem. But we now see in some of these countries that the frequency of the disease has almost quintupled since vaccination."

Peter Deusberg, Professor of Molecular and Cellular Biology at Berkeley University, puts another view: "The credit is due to plumbers and farmers! Thanks to them we have better hygiene and nutrition. With good nutrition comes sound immune defences and we are no longer prey to these infections." ("AIDS From Drug Addiction and Other Factors of Non-Infectious Risk", in Pharmaceutical Therapy, Vo 55, Berkeley, 1992).

Hygiene and Disinfection

Hygiene is the important thing. We owe a great deal more to Préfect Poubelle and to bleach than to Pasteur and vaccines. When it was discovered that cholera and typhus were transmitted by water contaminated with foecal matter a radical approach to water supply, coupled with purification, brought an end to epidemics of these diseases without recourse to vaccination.

Curiously, the medical corps was not entirely receptive to hygiene and disinfection. We need only mention the difficulties encountered by Dr Semelweiss in Vienna: he wanted doctors to wash their hands in a chlorinated solution before delivering babies: a measure that would have reduced deaths from puerperal fever almost to zero. But he was laughed at and died insane. He would have been forgotten had not Dr Louis-Ferdinand Celine come to his rescue by way of a book on his life.

The Dayton Times, 28 May 1993, published details from a study by the Department of Health which showed that half the victims of whooping cough in 1987 and 1991 in Ohio state had been vaccinated against it according to their medical records. It also disclosed for the same state that 72 per cent (2720 cases) of victims of measles two years earlier had received the measles vaccine.

Doctors rarely concern themselves with thorough follow-up, being conditioned to see vaccines as effective and inoffensive. Inevitably, therefore, they tend to assign the disease to other factors.

Professor Tara Shirakawa, Churchill Hospital, Oxford, has published the results of a study in Japan on 867 infants who received BCG vaccine and had tuberculin tests. Thirty-six per cent developed allergies, including asthma. The number of TB cases in the province under review appeared not to increase but, by contrast, the incidence of severe allergy clearly did. (Science, Vol 275, 3 Jan 1997. )

What was feared by an editor in the Petit Journal, 19 September 1888, and indicated by Dr Xavier Raspail, son of François Raspail, chemist and politician, in Raspail et Pasteur, seems about be realised: "If these hazardous inoculations contemplated by M Pasteur are introduced generally, many people will eventually be transformed, tattooed from head to foot by the so-called protective jabs like a sewage collector of multicoloured vaccines." Dr Raspail enquires: "Are we not poisoning humanity in small doses? It is diabolical that we are inflicting all these infections that have assaulted human beings at one time or another. It is stupefying this arrogant introduction into the blood of a cocktail of germs when for the slightest surgical operation we wage unremitting war against them."

Vaccinations and the Third World

Mass vaccinations in the third world have not reduced infant mortality. In effect, they have deprived these countries of basic nutritional requirements and clean water supplies. In his La Recherche Contre le Tiers-Monde (Editions PUF, 1993), Dr Mohamed Bouguerra of the Tunis Faculty of Science and Associate Director of Research at CNRS, criticises the corruption and machinations of multinational pharmaceutical companies and proclaims the benefits of clean water supply, hygiene and adequate nourishment. But he notes that these remedies do not generate profits for those enterprises: "You would think a multinational pharmaceutical's first response would be for the benefit of mankind, to ease suffering. Wrong. The sole aim is profit. When flu struck India one of the multis increased the price of vitamin C instead of reducing it. It is about time we punctured the spurious proclamations of the multinational pharmaceutical firms. We are all involved. Research should not be at the mercy of profit. I believe that intelligent men should fight against such taking this route."

RISKS OF VACCINATION

"In the past, tyranny resided in the egotism of princes at the expense of the multitude. Today it is seen in the degradation and enslavement of the individual in the name of collectivity." Dr Joseph Roy

We make much of the dangers of infectious diseases nowadays. We dramatise their consequences but make little or no reference to the potentially unfortunate effects of vaccines. A vaccine is an infectious agent that must be virulent to some degree to be active and everything depends on this virulence and the subject's powers of resistance, a factor that receives only cursory attention at the time. In any event, each vaccine represents an assault on the immune system, and there are long-term consequences to think about since a virus can recover its pathogenicity.

The deleterious effects of vaccines are almost a taboo subject for many doctors, no doubt because of the range of side effects observed.

When they say that no adverse reactions have been seen, that does not mean that there have been none but that no study has been carried out or published. Such reactions are often out of the ordinary. Deterioration in the vaccinated can be difficult to evaluate and, in any event, adverse reactions are not necessarily reported loud and long. In fact, that is the last thing wanted since it might make the public inimical to vaccination.

In the British Medical Journal, 17 July 1971, Professor G Dick, Middlesex Hospital Immunologist, reflected that: "Few doctors are willing to attribute a death or complication to a method that they have recommended and believe in."

In Les Vaccinations, Prévention ou Aggression, (Vivez Soleil, 1995, 1995), Dr Marie-Thérèse Quentin tells us: "At the Congress of the American Pædiatric Academy in 1982 it was proposed by certain doctors that parents should be alerted to the dangers of vaccinations but it would seem that parents were considered incompetent in this respect - the resolution was not carried."

In his Dictionnaire de la Médecine Ecologique (Le Rocher, 1995), Dr Joseph Levy enumerates various factors predisposing to onset of multiple sclerosis. He cites, among others, vaccine and serums that "... probably play a part. According to the noted immunologist, Professor A Good, the use of animal vaccines and serums provokes the transformation of human and animal lymphocytes. Such lymphocytes attack human cells as though they were foreign cells to be eliminated."

Isabelle Robard, a barrister specialising in medical cases, notes that "In 1991 the Ministry of Health put the risk of post-vaccination encephalitis from smallpox at one in 400 000 whilst in the CEE member states the estimated risk is one in 10 000. The Ministry did not take account of consequences that led to court cases." (La Santé assassinée, Isabelle Robard, Ancre 1992). The disparity here illustrates all too well how figures can be manipulated.

Besides, every time that the Minister is attacked in connection with post-vaccination accidents, he cites the absence of a direct link between the vaccination and the reaction, finds in favour of the plaintiff and the state neglects to compensate the victims, who are often in dire straits. Hence more stages in the process of litigation - and so complainants often withdraw from the seemingly interminable, and onerous, procedure, with the effect that the official number of victims is reduced, and particularly where a victim withdraws by dying. How many parents would relive a nightmare through a long legal process at the end of which they receive a sum that, in relation to the life of their child, is an insult?

It is, of course, very difficult to demonstrate cause and effect, and it is for the victims to provide the proof. Thus the authorities refuse to record as vaccine reactions what are then treated as unfortunate accidents. For want of the kind of evidence that would support going to law a large number of vaccine complications are not reported officially.

In Vous et Votre Sante, (Special Issue No 4, 1995) Dr Marie-Benedicte Hibon explains: "An infant's immune system matures slowly, from the appearance in the embryo of the first marrow cells up to the age of 10-12 years before attaining adult ability. Only then is it really functional. In the first two years the child's system has to deal with ten vaccine interventions (more if there are boosters). Who will link these with problems of dyslexia, hyperactivity, mental disturbance and diabetes and whether apparent immediately or years later? Why not let the disease express itself naturally by the epidemic route?"

Dr Alain Scohy has noted that the vaccine dose is the same for a baby as for an adult. The baby's immune system is incapable of establishing any protection. Abnormally stimulated or irritated tissue is likely to react by malfunctioning, then scarring and sclerosing, becoming inert and incapable of natural defence, especially in fragile infancy.

One doctor who has attempted to throw light on the problems of vaccination is Jacqueline Bousquet but her peers in the scientific community are disinclined to listen because she attacks dogma: "The immune system should not be imposed on recklessly and experimentally when it is in the process of establishing itself in the young, or where it is still immature. The consequences are now all too evident - AIDS."

Immunity - Natural and Artificial

Apart from their toxic effects, vaccinations can have undreamed-of consequences. Even the pro-vaccine accept that artificial immunity does not last as long as natural immunity. In the USA adults are contracting whooping cough and complications are frequent. France is witnessing the same phenomenon.

"Voici le temps des supermicrobes" is the title of an article in Le Nouvel Observateur, September 1994. It included a table of calamities of the near future.

Traditional medical literature still treats microbes as responsible for disease and contagion, but the works of Béchamp, Tissot and others make out a case for microbes being evidence of disease, not the cause. So, when it is argued that viruses cause disease it is reductionist doctors who are presenting this view rather than homeopaths and doctors, who see man as more than a simple physical entity.

Louis-Claude Vincent a past professor at the Ecole d'Anthropologie, Paris, has conceived a bio-electronic method of defining state of health from physico-chemical data obtained from blood, saliva and urine. The method has interested famous names in medicine and biology but whereas it has not received much attention in France it has been taken seriously in Germany and the USA, where NASA uses it to monitor the health of astronauts in space. Professor Vincent has demonstrated to the Congress of Comparative Pathology that any vaccination against microbes, by upsetting the terrain, quite clearly predisposes to viral disease and cancer, as polio vaccination predisposes to TB. (See the Revue de Pathologie Générale et de physiologie clinique, January 1958, Vol 694, p. 10).

Professor Jean Dausset, Nobel prizewinner in 1980 for his HLA system (cell group determination), has said: "Vaccination of infants against a series of diseases could soon be a thing of the past. Vaccinations would then be given only for high-risk diseases. We are on the verge of a new epoch when everyone will receive personalised treatment".

In Vous et Votre Santé Louis Bon de Brouwer sounds a warning: "Vaccine damage is not accounted. With vaccination people become reservoirs of virus and their immune defences are so affected that new and incurable ailments appear... True medicine has been replaced by a pharmaceutical system whose only interest is profit, not patients. This holds good for medicaments in general but when medicine, in the name of prevention, institutes a vaccination regime which seriously pollutes the bodies of people who are perfectly healthy..."

Our immune system, which depends on our genetic patrimony, ensures the endogenous functions that control hormones and antibodies as well as the cleaning of abnormal or infected cells. This equilibrium can be upset by injection of foreign proteins, whether attenuated bacterial (BCG), toxins (tetanus and diphtheria), killed or inactivated viruses (polio, whooping-cough, flu) or living attenuated virus (oral polio, measles, rubella, mumps).
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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2009, 09:56:18 pm »

British medical authorities told clinicians to report each month whether they have seen any cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a deadly nervous disorder that could be triggered by swine flu vaccine, which is expected in October, telegraph.co.uk reported today.

Swine flu or H1N1 vaccine proved a fiasco in 1976 when the U.S. health officials rushed out the vaccine following an outbreak of swine flu in military barracks because the virus was found somewhat related to the strain involved in the 1918 flu pandemic that killed millions around the world

News media has reported that in that outbreak, seven soldiers were infected with H1N1 virus and one died after getting H1N1 flu. Ironically, the soldier who died was reportedly the only one who received the vaccine among the seven.

The national vaccination campaign had as many as 40 million people vaccinated and unfortunately many people developed Guillain-Barre syndrome. Twenty-five people died reportedly from the nervous disorder before the immunization program was scrapped.

The following is cited from a U.S. government website to give readers more information on the nervous disorder.

What is Guillain-Barré syndrome?

Guillain-Barré syndrome is a disorder in which the body's immune system attacks part of the peripheral nervous system. The first symptoms of this disorder include varying degrees of weakness or tingling sensations in the legs. In many instances the weakness and abnormal sensations spread to the arms and upper body. These symptoms can increase in intensity until certain muscles cannot be used at all and, when severe, the patient is almost totally paralyzed. In these cases the disorder is life threatening - potentially interfering with breathing and, at times, with blood pressure or heart rate - and is considered a medical emergency. Such a patient is often put on a respirator to assist with breathing and is watched closely for problems such as an abnormal heart beat, infections, blood clots, and high or low blood pressure. Most patients, however, recover from even the most severe cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome, although some continue to have a certain degree of weakness.

Guillain-Barré syndrome can affect anybody. It can strike at any age and both sexes are equally prone to the disorder. The syndrome is rare, however, afflicting only about one person in 100,000. Usually Guillain-Barré occurs a few days or weeks after the patient has had symptoms of a respiratory or gastrointestinal viral infection. Occasionally surgery or vaccinations will trigger the syndrome.

After the first clinical manifestations of the disease, the symptoms can progress over the course of hours, days, or weeks. Most people reach the stage of greatest weakness within the first 2 weeks after symptoms appear, and by the third week of the illness 90 percent of all patients are at their weakest.

What causes Guillain-Barré syndrome?

No one yet knows why Guillain-Barré—which is not contagious—strikes some people and not others. Nor does anyone know exactly what sets the disease in motion.

What scientists do know is that the body's immune system begins to attack the body itself, causing what is known as an autoimmune disease. Usually the cells of the immune system attack only foreign material and invading organisms. In Guillain-Barré syndrome, however, the immune system starts to destroy the myelin sheath that surrounds the axons of many peripheral nerves, or even the axons themselves (axons are long, thin extensions of the nerve cells; they carry nerve signals). The myelin sheath surrounding the axon speeds up the transmission of nerve signals and allows the transmission of signals over long distances.

In diseases in which the peripheral nerves' myelin sheaths are injured or degraded, the nerves cannot transmit signals efficiently. That is why the muscles begin to lose their ability to respond to the brain's commands, commands that must be carried through the nerve network. The brain also receives fewer sensory signals from the rest of the body, resulting in an inability to feel textures, heat, pain, and other sensations. Alternately, the brain may receive inappropriate signals that result in tingling, "crawling-skin," or painful sensations. Because the signals to and from the arms and legs must travel the longest distances they are most vulnerable to interruption. Therefore, muscle weakness and tingling sensations usually first appear in the hands and feet and progress upwards.

When Guillain-Barré is preceded by a viral or bacterial infection, it is possible that the virus has changed the nature of cells in the nervous system so that the immune system treats them as foreign cells. It is also possible that the virus makes the immune system itself less discriminating about what cells it recognizes as its own, allowing some of the immune cells, such as certain kinds of lymphocytes and macrophages, to attack the myelin. Sensitized T lymphocytes cooperate with B lymphocytes to produce antibodies against components of the myelin sheath and may contribute to destruction of the myelin. Scientists are investigating these and other possibilities to find why the immune system goes awry in Guillain-Barré syndrome and other autoimmune diseases. The cause and course of Guillain-Barré syndrome is an active area of neurological investigation, incorporating the cooperative efforts of neurological scientists, immunologists, and virologists.

How is Guillain-Barré syndrome diagnosed?

Guillain-Barré is called a syndrome rather than a disease because it is not clear that a specific disease-causing agent is involved. A syndrome is a medical condition characterized by a collection of symptoms (what the patient feels) and signs (what a doctor can observe or measure). The signs and symptoms of the syndrome can be quite varied, so doctors may, on rare occasions, find it difficult to diagnose Guillain-Barré in its earliest stages.

Several disorders have symptoms similar to those found in Guillain-Barré, so doctors examine and question patients carefully before making a diagnosis. Collectively, the signs and symptoms form a certain pattern that helps doctors differentiate Guillain-Barré from other disorders. For example, physicians will note whether the symptoms appear on both sides of the body (most common in Guillain-Barré) and the quickness with which the symptoms appear (in other disorders, muscle weakness may progress over months rather than days or weeks). In Guillain-Barré, reflexes such as knee jerks are usually lost. Because the signals traveling along the nerve are slower, a nerve conduction velocity (NCV) test can give a doctor clues to aid the diagnosis. In Guillain-Barré patients, the cerebrospinal fluid that bathes the spinal cord and brain contains more protein than usual. Therefore a physician may decide to perform a spinal tap, a procedure in which the doctor inserts a needle into the patient's lower back to draw cerebrospinal fluid from the spinal column.

How is Guillain-Barré treated?

There is no known cure for Guillain-Barré syndrome. However, there are therapies that lessen the severity of the illness and accelerate the recovery in most patients. There are also a number of ways to treat the complications of the disease.

Currently, plasma exchange (sometimes called plasmapheresis) and high-dose immunoglobulin therapy are used. Both of them are equally effective, but immunoglobulin is easier to administer. Plasma exchange is a method by which whole blood is removed from the body and processed so that the red and white blood cells are separated from the plasma, or liquid portion of the blood. The blood cells are then returned to the patient without the plasma, which the body quickly replaces. Scientists still don't know exactly why plasma exchange works, but the technique seems to reduce the severity and duration of the Guillain-Barré episode. This may be because the plasma portion of the blood contains elements of the immune system that may be toxic to the myelin.

In high-dose immunoglobulin therapy, doctors give intravenous injections of the proteins that, in small quantities, the immune system uses naturally to attack invading organisms. Investigators have found that giving high doses of these immunoglobulins, derived from a pool of thousands of normal donors, to Guillain-Barré patients can lessen the immune attack on the nervous system. Investigators don't know why or how this works, although several hypotheses have been proposed.

The use of steroid hormones has also been tried as a way to reduce the severity of Guillain-Barré, but controlled clinical trials have demonstrated that this treatment not only is not effective but may even have a deleterious effect on the disease.

The most critical part of the treatment for this syndrome consists of keeping the patient's body functioning during recovery of the nervous system. This can sometimes require placing the patient on a respirator, a heart monitor, or other machines that assist body function. The need for this sophisticated machinery is one reason why Guillain-Barré syndrome patients are usually treated in hospitals, often in an intensive care ward. In the hospital, doctors can also look for and treat the many problems that can afflict any paralyzed patient - complications such as pneumonia or bed sores.

Often, even before recovery begins, caregivers may be instructed to manually move the patient's limbs to help keep the muscles flexible and strong. Later, as the patient begins to recover limb control, physical therapy begins. Carefully planned clinical trials of new and experimental therapies are the key to improving the treatment of patients with Guillain-Barré syndrome. Such clinical trials begin with the research of basic and clinical scientists who, working with clinicians, identify new approaches to treating patients with the disease.

What is the long-term outlook for those with Guillain-Barré syndrome?

Guillain-Barré syndrome can be a devastating disorder because of its sudden and unexpected onset. In addition, recovery is not necessarily quick. As noted above, patients usually reach the point of greatest weakness or paralysis days or weeks after the first symptoms occur. Symptoms then stabilize at this level for a period of days, weeks, or, sometimes, months. The recovery period may be as little as a few weeks or as long as a few years. About 30 percent of those with Guillain-Barré still have a residual weakness after 3 years. About 3 percent may suffer a relapse of muscle weakness and tingling sensations many years after the initial attack.

Guillain-Barré syndrome patients face not only physical difficulties, but emotionally painful periods as well. It is often extremely difficult for patients to adjust to sudden paralysis and dependence on others for help with routine daily activities. Patients sometimes need psychological counseling to help them adapt.

What research is being done?

Scientists are concentrating on finding new treatments and refining existing ones. Scientists are also looking at the workings of the immune system to find which cells are responsible for beginning and carrying out the attack on the nervous system. The fact that so many cases of Guillain-Barré begin after a viral or bacterial infection suggests that certain characteristics of some viruses and bacteria may activate the immune system inappropriately. Investigators are searching for those characteristics. Certain proteins or peptides in viruses and bacteria may be the same as those found in myelin, and the generation of antibodies to neutralize the invading viruses or bacteria could trigger the attack on the myelin sheath. As noted previously, neurological scientists, immunologists, virologists, and pharmacologists are all working collaboratively to learn how to prevent this disorder and to make better therapies available when it strikes.
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In another case where the cure is worse than the disease, concerns have arisen over a link between the new Swine Flu vaccine and a neurological disorder called Guillain-Barré. Actually, the link is a rehashing of the first time the Flu hit in 1976. Like today, there was a huge public panic, with many concerned that the new Flu could be like the 1918-19 pandemic that killed 20 million people worldwide.

When a massive vaccination campaign ensued, the vaccine’s safety was insufficiently weighted against its risks. As such, the Flu claimed one death and complications attributed to the vaccine killed 25. This dark spot in the annals of US public health has been immortalized as the Swine Flu ‘Debacle.’

It must be said that the 1976 outbreak and this year’s are quite different in scope, with this iteration already claiming 477 deaths in the US and over 1,462 worldwide, according to the CDC and WHO respectively. Also, the yet-to-be-released new vaccine will be different than the 70’s version.

But with this new vaccine, there are reports that public health officials are taking the Microsoft approach to R & D, asking doctors to look out for Guillain-Barré after they’ve administered the vaccine. The European Medicines Agency's September release seems particularly shady. In the UK for example,according to the Daily Mail UK, a confidential letter was sent by the government's Health Protection Agency to 600 neurologists asking if they’d report any increases in the incidences of Guillain-Barré in the near future (after the vaccinations hit that is). While this does not automatically mean that it will induce the condition, it connotes an unnerving lack of confidence in the vaccine's safety by the authorities.

The more litigious US is testing the vaccine on several thousand volunteers to assess its safety before an expected October release.

With millions of vaccinations planned in the coming months—surely accompanied by all the hysteria the CDC and the pharma companies can muster—it might be best to take a minute to think about whether the vaccine might be protecting your body (or your child's) from one thing, while subjecting it to another. Likewise, it might serve public health officials look at some of the causes of the Flu—i.e. industrial agriculture, air travel, etc.—rather than being so rash to cure its effects.
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Scientist warns over pandemic flu vaccine 6-month time lag
Study is first to show pre-pandemic vaccine approach

New research published today (Monday April 27) from the University of Leicester and University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust warns of a six-month time lag before effective vaccines can be manufactured in the event of a pandemic flu outbreak.

By that time, the first wave of pandemic flu may be over before people are vaccinated, says Dr Iain Stephenson, Consultant in Infectious Diseases at the Leicester Royal Infirmary and a Clinical Senior Lecturer at the University of Leicester.

In his paper published in PNAS- Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA- Dr Stephenson makes the first case for a pre-pandemic vaccine to mitigate the worst effects of pandemic flu.

He said: "This study is the first to show an effective pre-pandemic vaccine approach. This means that we could vaccinate people potentially many years before a pandemic, to generate memory cells that are long lasting and can be rapidly boosted by a single dose of vaccine when needed."

Dr Stephenson, of the Department of Infection, Immunity and Inflammation at the University of Leicester, said: "If an influenza pandemic occurs, vaccination will to be the main way to protect the population. The major current threat seems to be from avian influenza H5N1 (bird flu) which has spread rapidly around the world and causes human infections and deaths.

"Unfortunately, if a pandemic occurs, it will take up to six months to manufacture effective vaccine, so the first waves of the pandemic may be over before people are vaccinated. Furthermore, most people need two doses of H5 pandemic vaccine to get protection- so this adds a further delay.

"To reduce any delay, we could consider stockpiling vaccine or immunizing people with vaccine prepared in advance -(a so called 'pre-pandemic vaccine' - to protect them before a future pandemic.

"However, we don't know which strain of influenza will cause the pandemic. There are several strains of H5N1 virus, so we can't be sure of which virus strain to make pre-pandemic vaccine from. Therefore a 'pre-pandemic' vaccine needs to give cross protection to as many H5 strains as possible."

Dr Stephenson and his team conducted a study comparing the effect of a single H5 bird flu vaccine dose to people who had been vaccinated with an H5 vaccine previously with people who had not previously received vaccine. The aim was the test out the idea of a pre-pandemic vaccination approach.

He said: "We found that those people who received H5 vaccine between 1999 and 2001 responded very well to a single dose of a newer H5 vaccine. They had memory cells that gave a rapid protective response within 7 days of the repeat vaccine. Also the response was very broad and able to protect against all known strains of H5N1 virus.

"In contrast, those people who had not been previously vaccinated with H5 vaccine, behaved as we had expected. They required 2 doses of vaccine and got good antibody responses up to 6 weeks after the first dose."

Dr Stephenson added that this was the first study to show an effective pre-pandemic vaccine approach.

The trial subjects were all recruited at the University of Leicester or University Hospitals of Leicester.

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For more information, please contact Dr Stephenson via University of Leicester press office -0116 252 2415
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The authors:

Grazia Galli; Monia Bardelli; Carmine Malzone; Flora Castellino; Giuseppe Del Giudice; Michaela Praus; Angelika Banzhoff; Volker Brauer
Novartis Vaccines

Kathy Hancock; Joshua DeVos; Jacqueline Katz
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Katja Hoschler; Maria Zambon
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Chiara Gentile; Emanuele Montomoli
University of Siena

Teresa McNally; Karl Nicholson; Iain Stephenson
University of Leicester

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'A Veritable Dictatorship' by Sylvie Simon
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/emma_holister/2004/09/15/a_veritable_dictatorship_by_sylvie.htm
From the book 'Healing: An Illegal Practice'
[email protected] September 15, 2004


"We have grown accustomed to believing that no illness can be cured without medicine.
However, this is just a superstition. Medicines are always dangerous".

-Gandhi

According to Plato, Socrates was condemned to death because he did not believe in the gods recognised by the State. Today, these gods have been replaced by bureaucrats and experts. Like Socrates, a great number of doctors who refuse to idolise the thought processes of these new masters are brought before a 'tribunal of exclusion', Le Conseil de l'Ordre (the Council of the Order of Doctors), who have assigned to themselves a regal power and abuse it with total impunity, all with the complicity of the health insurance organisations.

Throughout the centuries, unable to tolerate the deviations of those who drift from the established way of thinking, men of power have always found various methods to gag or prevent from 'causing damage' those who have dared to think and act differently.

In this country, 'exporter' of human rights, most people feel that the Inquisition is a practice of the past as we no longer torture in the name of God. However, we continue to torture doctors and patients in the name of a so-called medical science whose limitations and misdeeds can be constantly observed.

All doctors should have the freedom to act according to their conscience as the Hippocratic Oath declares. Furthermore, article 7 of the Code of Medical Ethics states: "The doctor is free to prescribe that which he considers the most appropriate according the circumstances". As for the Helsinki declarations (1964) and those of Tokyo (1975) that prohibit the Huriet law, the international conventions taken to national law are very clear: "In the treatment of a sick patient, the doctor must be free to resort to a new diagnostic or therapeutic method if he considers that it offers a hope of saving the life of a sick patient, returning them to health, and relieving their suffering."

In reality, however, therapeutic freedom does not exist in the land of human rights, of citizens' rights, despite certain declarations by our politicians who unanimously claim their adherence to freedom of therapeutic choice. Thus, during a dinner debate organised on February 5th 1998 at the Hotel Concorde Saint-Lazare by the association of friends of L'Evénement du Jeudi, without fear of ridicule Bernard Kouchner, the then Secretary of State for Health, declared before more than eighty people that in France "we have therapeutic freedom". Several people, suffering from illness, who were present at the debate were surprised to hear this as they had seen their medicines - not approved in France but liberally sold elsewhere - confiscated by the police a few months earlier by order of the Ministry of Health.

However, Bernard Kouchner has not always delivered this type of speech. In June 1995 he confided to the Revue des deux mondes, in an article entitled: "Medicine and Cruelty":

" . . . Our medical system has become perverse to the point that the interests of doctors can sometimes be at variance with those of the sick . . . And I will not even mention here the staggering number of appendixes that have been removed for no justifiable pathological reason in French clinics during a certain period. Nor the bladders that the surgeons - but do they still deserve that name? - have removed simply to increase their business figures, nor the trafficking in prostheses amongst certain dishonest orthopaedists who attempt to profit from a diabolical system . . . We have made great progress in medical science but we have lost sight of the most important thing: people! . . . The social security system that the French hold so dear will soon crumble if we don't seriously modify it. Small reforms will only slow down the decline. A critique of the beliefs and medical practices is necessary in our country. Let us reform medical training, where too many statistics are learned (most of which, moreover, are falsified, full of lies, erroneous and fallacious!), and not enough humanism; the CHU must give priority to the human and social sciences! . . ."

We can only agree, but why two different speeches as time goes by and circumstances change? The reality is very different from all these nice declarations we hear from the irresponsible 'people of responsibility'.

As a prosecutor once claimed back in 1930 during the trial of a healer: "It matters little that the guilty have cured their fellow beings! The only thing that interests me is if they have the right to cure. Only people holding diplomas have the right to heal and even to kill. Get a diploma, you the guilty, and you will have the right over life and death."

It is currently the case that doctors are stricken from the register and thus accused of the illegal practice of medicine, whilst still in possession of an incontestable diploma, but once removed from the register they find themselves forbidden to practise medicine and are often treated as "charlatans". So nothing has really changed since 1930 and the indictments of the modern-day prosecutors strangely resemble those of their forefathers, every time that a doctor is brought before a tribunal for having treated his patients with a substance that is 'not authorised' by the Faculty (Order) and hence considered dangerous, even if the evidence of its efficacy is manifest. These indictments produce the same litany: "The question is not whether you have cured but that you did not have the right to do so!". An accusation which could well be replaced by "non-assistance of a person in danger", if the censured doctor had not intervened.

The discrimination to which hundreds of doctors are victim is ignored by no political party, but the subject is carefully avoided by our elected representatives who wish to remain, above all, 'politically correct'.

The Ordre des médecins, the organisation of private law and public interest whose mission it is to serve the public was created on October 7th 1940 by the Vichy government, four days after the promulgation of the Jewish Statute. Its aim was, amongst others, to 'purify' the profession. A role which it has fulfilled and which it continues to fulfil, as the texts of the period and the current political repression testify. It was dissolved during the liberation, but an order on September 24th 1945 rendered it legitimate even though it had never been ratified by Parliament as the Constitution decrees.

The connections between the Order during the occupation and the current Order are clear. The Order remained the sole agent of its archives during the war period and Doctor Portes, who was president of the Order in 1943-1944, then from 1946 to 1950, is still a moral reference for the current president Bernard Glorion. His recent repentance is in total contradiction to what he declared in March 1994, "I was 13 years old in 1941. I am also one of those people who were completely unaware of 'things' at the period when they were happening".

Ever since, the method of functioning of the national Order and its departmental or regional vassals, like that of its disciplinary sectors, has hardly evolved. Any disciplinary sector operates like a court of exclusion and scorns with impunity the basic principle of open debate. The doctor in question is judged by his associates who have no judicial competence and therefore nothing can guarantee either independence or impartiality, as it is common to find doctors who have interests within the pharmaceutical industry. Likewise, in the sector of social insurance, certain judges, with salaries from health insurance funds, are both judge and jury.

What is more, until just recently, the defendant was not heard publicly: he is at present, but generally witnesses who could contribute to clearing his name are not allowed to be heard. Once condemned, the accused cannot request compensation for damage, even when this has been flagrant and no matter what the consequences, whether on a personal or a professional level.

Already, in the 1950s, in the name of the national Union of Medical Doctors, Doctor Topsen had addressed a circular to all the candidates for the legislative elections asking them if they intended to maintain an institution inspired by the occupation, four days after the Jewish Statute. ". . . the near totality of French doctors - with the exception evidently of the members of the different Order Committees - ardently desire to be rid of this organisation which has turned out to be both useless and harmful. Created by Pétain at the request of the occupation, against doctors and not for them - in order to render them servants and not to serve them - it has been since its creation an instrument of oppression in the hands of the enemy and its supporters and has not succeeded in liberating itself from the totalitarian spirit which presided at its conception."

This situation is criticised by a growing number of doctors who consider that the existence of a Conseil de l'Ordre can be justified as a guarantee of the respect for medical ethics, but that it should withhold power from its disciplinary sector.

Certain doctors denounce their actions, which prompts Alain Dumas to say:

"In fact, the Order operates the combination of the three powers, executive, legislative, judicial, and as Montesquieu declares in spirit with the law: 'All would be lost if the same man or the same body of principles, or the nobility, or the people, exercised the three powers: that of making laws, that of executing public decisions, and that of judging crises or the differences between individuals.'

The danger of a corporatist and sectarian deviation had already been the object of a warning from the State Council in 1958. Condemned doctors cannot make an appeal to civil or penitentiary tribunals. As for the State Council, if it gives an opinion on the content, it can never judge until the end; it maintains a constant jurisprudence adhering obstinately until now to considering as inapplicable to disciplinary jurisdictions the dispositions of the article 6 - 1 of the European Convention that protect human rights and fundamental liberties: 'All persons have the right to have their case heard fairly, publicly and within reasonable delay by an independent and impartial tribunal . . .'.

Questioned recently on the aims of the Order, its president Pr. Glorion declared: 'The Ordre des Médecins does not have the competence to scientifically judge the quality of a treatment, only that of assuring that the treatment be officially validated.'

This is a confession of total submission to the French Agency for Medicine and to pharmaceutical power; moreover, it is confessing that a beneficial treatment for a patient, if it is not validated, can lead to its administrator being suspended from practice. In this line of argument, the sick patient no longer exists as an individual, but is subjected to the whims of the protocols. It is a dramatic confession and the end of Medicine with a human face".
(Cf. Votre Santé: May 2000)

Effectively, in March 2000, Bernard Glorion was evoking the need to reform the ordinal institutions in his last work Medicine of the 21st Century. According to the current president, the threat of the suppression of the Ordre des Médecins, envisaged and promised by candidate François Mitterand in 1981, "revived bad memories and certainly calmed high feelings. Careful to be as discreet as possible, the members of the Conseil de l'Ordre fell into a certain lethargy . . . From the sessions of the committee to the writing of reports via contacts and meetings, deceit led to fantasy as nothing ever happened". The suggestions for reform of the permanent national committee remain secret.

The day after a disciplinary decision was taken regarding a famous cancer therapist in 1991, "the Order's wish to reform thrilled us with the Terquem report". This report included changes in the composition of the departmental councils that were more representative of the diversity of activities at the heart of the profession. It foresaw a more independent disciplinary jurisdiction with a magistrate from the beginning, with the regional council. "Other, more meticulous measures were to complete this operation which had as its aim the modernisation of an institution whose existence was no longer contested", commented the President. Coming up against a unanimous refusal, "these visionary and premonitory ideas would now be taken up and accepted with many fewer difficulties". For Bernard Glorion, the rules enunciated in the Code of Ethics are not to be ignored if one wishes to conserve the human side of the medical act. "An order of doctors that is reformed and adapted to social change constitutes an efficient rampart against the deviations of a modernism that is rash . . . The order of doctors must be representative of a large number of different forms of practice. It must be an open and transparent organisation, of service to society, thus harmonising with the motto of the British Medical Council that one could translate as: protection of the sick, guidance for doctors."

At the end of a lyrical flight of fancy about the exceptional mission of the Order to preserve health and to respect human beings throughout their lives until death, this president-doctor turns to the subject of the rights of ill people: "Of course, it may seem utopian, even hurtful, to speak of the rights of the ill. Isn't this judicial formula in contradiction to the notion of service, of generosity and devotion that constitute the honour of the world of medicine?" All whilst recognising that it is unfortunately sometimes necessary to remind doctors that they have duties, he suggests going further, to "also speak of the duties of the patients and the rights of the doctors. The future of healthcare depends on the sharing of responsibilities as in a reciprocal mutual assistance". The current president nevertheless refrains from suggesting that there be representatives of patients at the heart of the Ordre des Médecins, as is the case in the United Kingdom.

So, according to professor Glorion, the ideas regarding the reform of the permanent national committee of the national Order were never revealed after the electoral promise to suppress it by the future president of the Republic in 1981. And despite this wish to reform, the Terquem report, with its "visionary and premonitory ideas", was unanimously rejected in 1991. According to the present Secretary of State for Health: "It would however be currently accepted without difficulty"; nevertheless, he is not sure that this project of reform should be integrated into the governmental text for the modernisation of the health system.

Why, under such conditions, in twenty years, has this desire for reform been clearly expressed only by the partial opening of closed doors? Why did Professor Glorion, who claims to support an Order that is representative of a diversity of practices, not react when his homeopathic colleagues were called "recruiters for sects" by the Secretary of State for Health?

The same month that his book came out, the Green Party deputies took their turn in opposing the organisation and practices of the departmental sectors of the Order, accusing it of "partiality, union favouritism and fraudulent electoral procedures". Of course the French ecologists refer only to the "serious deviations of certain departmental sectors that have filed a complaint against certain referring doctors with the sole aim of obstructing the establishment of a legal system", but one can hope that the parliamentary commission that they are asking for will not remain a pious wish and will be the point of departure for indispensable reform in depth of the Order, leading it to total conformity with human rights.

Following the opposition of the Greens, the President of the national Order agreed to an interview with the paper Libération. He recognised the abuses of certain doctors holding positions in the departmental Order all whilst being union elected or members of an ordinal jurisdiction. According to him, certain departmental councils are even "organised like small feudalities". In confessing to "having requested, for seven years, modifications to our system", he justified on the other hand the necessity for in-depth reform of this archaic order of doctors (luxuriously installed at the Boulevard Haussmann, after having moved from the Boulevard La Tour Maubourg) and stated the impotence of this desire to reform. Despite these criticisms, March 25th 2001, during a channel 2 programme on the Ordre des Médecins, the president did not hesitate to affirm that: "The Order guarantees the independence of doctors", whilst Dr Bernard Debré admitted that the Order was "corporate".

In his work A Split World (La fêlure du monde) André Glucksmann tells of

"the adventure of a certain surgeon, at the time president of the Order of Doctors, therefore spokesman for the ethics and morality of the medical world . . . In the early eighties he was given a blood transfusion. Two or three years went by and a colleague recommended a test. He thought this sensible and complied: negative. 'And then?' asked a journalist, seven years later. 'And then; nothing', he answered. Relieved on his own account, he did not warn the thousands of people who had received transfusions in these years of ignorance. All of them ran a similar risk to his own. President, ex-president, never once did the thought occur to him to make a public announcement. . . This doctor, ill at ease, regretful . . . referred to the long, spiritual blindness that led him to neglect his own interests, then those of his constituents, finally those of a whole population, as 'a blind spot'. . . He became as suicidal as he had previously been almost homicidal."

As for the CNAM (Caisse nationale d'assurances maladies - National Health Insurance Fund), although they fiercely defend themselves to the contrary, they are even more dogged than the Order when it comes to pursuing those who stray from the beaten track. Their national counsellor-doctor, Pr. Hubert Allemand, insists: "cases of harassment (of liberal doctors by the health insurance's counsellor-doctors) do not exist" and he "guarantees a medical service that does a difficult job with a great deal of rigour, that is to say, precision" (cf. Le Quotidien du médecin February 23rd 2000). These statements provoked an outcry from liberal doctors. "Mr. Allemand's statements are unacceptable, but certainly reveal the state of mind of many of the leaders and executives in health insurance: arrogant certainty of the total authority of the administration, refusal to be aware of and admit their errors, refusal to accept any responsibility related to their everyday decisions. Democracy is in a bad way when the administration adopts such a stance." replied Dr Patrick Gérard de Nantes in the publication Le Quotidien du médecin March 8th 2000. Dr Martial Groboz commented that he is a "victim of the tribunals of exclusion that the CMR represents".

"Yes, harassment exists, whether or not Pr. Hubert Allemand agrees. His declarations to the contrary will not succeed in hiding the truth for long", says Dr Roch Menes de Clermont-Ferrand in the same magazine. "Rather than deny the evidence, Pr.Allemand would no doubt be advised to pay careful attention to the control of the funds and to attempt to put them into some order. . . But it is easier and more politically correct to take it out on the practitioners than to fight the malfunctioning of health-insurance funds.".

Healing: an Illegal Practice By Sylvie Simon

How is it possible to legally practise medicine, respect the Hippocratic Oath and the rights of ill people, in the face of the dictatorship of the Conseil de l'Ordre, in addition to that of the pharmaceutical lobbies?

This question, essential to the well-being of each one of us, is at the heart of Sylvie Simon's book. The author, who has gathered statements from courageous doctors, gives us access to the cogs of a machine that is controlled by the Conseil de l'Ordre, a tribunal of exclusion. She reveals how this Order uses and abuses its regal power in order to muzzle doctors who choose to heal their patients solely according to their knowledge and their conscience.

This book therefore, through the experiences of various practitioners, helps us to understand the pain of those who give their lives to curing the sick and who suddenly find themselves forbidden to practise on the pretext that they dare question a system that is on the whole riddled with the rot of medical and economic authority.
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'Modern Medicine : the New World Religion' by Olivier Clerc
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/emma_holister/2004/10/10/modern_medicine_the_new.htm
October 10, 2004

A presentation of Oliver Clerc's book, published by Personhood Press, California, April 04.

" Ô Lord, I trust you so much that sometimes I call you 'Doctor' ! " says an old lady praying in church, in a famous French cartoon that Olivier Clerc could well have used for the cover of his illuminating essay on medicine and religion. Medicine, this author writes, is in many ways more a religion than a science. Strong hidden religious influences determine along what lines modern medicine is developing, what researches can be made, what theories are called "heretic", as well as the kind of relationships that exist between physicians and patients, or between medicine and the State, etc.

It all started, O. Clerc says, with Louis Pasteur, the French founder of modern day medicine and "Good Shepherd" of medical religion ("pasteur" means "shepherd" in French). Pasteur, a devoted Catholic, strove to prove the religious truths he believed in in the medical field, which led him to twist the theories he "borrowed" from his contemporaries (A. Béchamp, for instance), to ignore relevant facts, and to found modern medicine on four major dogmas that were all proved wrong in the following decades.

As a result, medicine has developed along the same lines as the Christian religion, duplicating its structure, its relationships, its beliefs, taboos and practices, Clerc shows.

Physicians are its priests; the search for health mimics the quest for salvation; the hope of physical immortality (through cryonisation, cloning and genetic manipulation) competes with eternal life; vaccination plays the same initiatory role as baptism; and a universal vaccine is expected to save all mankind from illness, tomorrow, just as the Saviour atoned for the sins of the world.

Today, the medical powers, Clerc continues, have a strong political influence, just as the Catholic Church used to; "charlatans" are prosecuted as were "heretics" in the past; dogmatism in medicine often prevails over an open state of mind regarding "unorthodox" - yet quite relevant - theories.

Finally, Clerc states, present medical behavior and arguments deprive us of our responsibility for our health, just as the religious powers did for centuries with people's spiritual evolution. We are still being manipulated by fears and childish hopes, the author concludes.

Interestingly, Clerc's argument is not accusatory but enlightening. No conspiracy theorist, he does not accuse some hidden Machiavellian medico-pharmaceutical power of abusing people's ignorance and making money on their illnesses, nor does he put his readers in the position of victims. Instead, he highlights the phenomena that have lead to that evolution, unbeknownst to the majority of people. To do so, he uses an interesting metaphor : "Just as the magnetic field of a magnet placed under a sheet of paper controls the way iron filings fall on its surface, revealing the invisible lines of force between the two poles of the magnet, a "religious field" likewise imperceptibly structures and organizes the development of modern medicine." This invisible "religious field", Clerc writes, is made up of all the beliefs of the Christian religion.

Rational and scientific on the surface, our society remains thus deeply religious, he explains. We took away the former "iron filings," the specific collective religious forms, but we did not change the "current of thoughts", the underlying "religious field" which continues to exert the same influence, but through medicine, now.

Therefore, behind the different structures of medicine and the Church of Rome we find the same fundamental concepts, the same relationships, the same characteristics, the same fears, the same hopes and expectations, according to this author. The light that Clerc sheds on this superposition of medicine and religion can bring about a needed new awareness and important changes.

Indeed, as he shows, this substitution of medicine for religion has many unfortunate consequences that we are not clearly aware of. In medical research, it influences what should be looked for and what can be discovered. "Any discovery or theory that is at odds with the over-arching orthodoxy is rejected, and its authors called heretics", Clerc explains. "Entire areas of research, as well as promising new lines of approach, are thus disqualified." We must thus become aware of how religious beliefs and fears surreptitiously influence medicine if we want to be responsible for our own health, and if medicine is to be free from unconscious and limiting influences.

First published in France in 1999, Olivier Clerc's essay received a lot of positive feed-back from the medical field: many physicians and researchers shared with him how his unprecedented outlook on their field of activity helped them better understand what was really going on below the surface. Thanks to Personhood Press, this valuable book is now available to all English-speaking readers.

"Every so often someone comes along and bonks us in the head with a proposition that elucidates something we already know but have not formulated into a whole idea. Your book about the new religion has done that. " Tim Bennett, a reader.

"I want to say to you that your essay is some of the best integrated writing I have seen on consciousness. Authors such as you help many readers connect the dots of their own experience. Your essay furthers my understanding of much more than even medicine. It helps me understand the state of planetary consciousness. Thank you again for this unique and enlightening perspective." Ray Carlson, a reader

"Your book is a major calling into question of several of our essential fears, as well as our more or less conscious search of how to rid ourselves of uncertainty. I can only say that I wholeheartedly agree with what you have said so well. Your development clarifies everything in a way that is most remarkable." Dr André Passebecq, pioneer of natural medicines in France and author of over thirty books on naturopathy.

"This is an important book. It is the book of an "honest man", as one might have said in the XVIIIth century. Not only is it written in a language of quality - the first courtesy to the reader, but also the expression of a clear mind - it is also the book of a humanist. It allowed me to structure and clear up several ideas and feelings which seem to me decisive for the future. Who shall read this book will make progress in the knowledge of him(her)self, in bringing up to date some of his (her) regressive temptations. It is an hymn to liberty. Which includes of course responsibility." Jean-Yves Revault, French author of several novels and self-help books.
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« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2009, 10:34:25 pm »
Swine flu vaccine linked to deadly breathing disease
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1206988/Swine-flu-vaccine-linked-deadly-breathing-disease.html
By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 11:49 PM on 16th August 2009

Swine flu vaccines have been linked to Guillain-Barr Syndrome - a paralysis of the breathing muscles

Doctors have been put on alert for a deadly disease linked to swine flu jabs.

The Health Protection Agency has told neurologists to look out for a rise in Guillain-Barr Syndrome - in which paralysis of the breathing muscles can cause death by suffocation - when vaccination starts in the next few weeks.

The link was made following a mass immunisation programme in the U.S., in which a swine flu jab was blamed for more deaths than the disease itself.

More than 40million Americans were vaccinated after an outbreak of swine flu at an army base in 1976.

The programme was abandoned after hundreds of cases of GBS were diagnosed and 25 died.

The flu, however, did not spread further than the base and claimed only one life.

In a letter to the Association of British Neurologists, Elizabeth Miller, head of immunisation at the HPA, said: 'GBS has been identified as a condition needing enhanced surveillance when the swine flu vaccines are rolled out.'

The warning will add to concerns about the safety of the jab, which will be given to more than 13million Britons from October.

Professor Patrick Chinnery, of the Association of British Neurologists, said: 'This is a belt-and-braces approach to safety and is not something people should be worried about as it's a rare condition.'
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Concern Grows in the British Media About Swine Flu Vaccine
http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/08/concern-grows-in-the-british-media-about-swine-flu-vaccine.html
August 17, 2009 By John Stone

Concern is finally being raised in the UK media that government agencies are failing to be straight with the public over the safety of the proposed swine flu vaccine now scheduled for release in October.

Leaked documents show that there is concern – as with the previous US swine flu scare in 1976 – that the vaccine might give rise to Guillain-Barré syndrome, which can cause paralysis or death. A letter was sent to 600 neurologists from Professor Elizabeth Miller of the Health Protection Agency acknowledging concern on 29 July, two days after a letter circulated amongst the Association of British Neurologists by Dr Rustam Al-Shahi Salman, chair of its surveillance unit, and Professor Patrick Chinnery chair of its clinical research committee. The leak highlights the fact that Prof Miller is prepared to disclose the concern secretly to professionals but not the public.  Her letter, quoted in the Mail on Sunday (HERE), states:

"The vaccines used to combat an expected swine influenza pandemic in 1976 were shown to be associated with GBS and were withdrawn from use.

"GBS has been identified as a condition needing enhanced surveillance when the swine flu vaccines are rolled out.

"Reporting every case of GBS irrespective of vaccination or disease history is essential for conducting robust epidemiological analyses capable of identifying whether there is an increased risk of GBS in defined time periods after vaccination, or after influenza itself, compared with the background risk."
In 2001-2 Prof Miller director of Public Health Service Laboratory, which was later incorporated into the Health Protection Agency, disclosed funding from several vaccine manufacturers – including those currently favoured by government contracts for swine flu vaccine – Smith Kline Beecham (for-runner of GSK)  and Baxter Healthcare (HERE in Pediatrics). It is not clear what the position is today. Eyebrows were raised earlier this year when Baxter, who are under investigation for circulating live avian flu virus in batches of ordinary flu vaccine to destinations in central Europe (Toronto Sun, http://Publications.Parliament. UK), were nevertheless awarded part of the contract for the manufacture of swine flu vaccine both globally and in the UK. No explanation of the incident has yet come to light.

Prof Miller is exceptionally well connected. A recent biographical note states:

‘Professor Elizabeth Miller is the Head of the Immunisation Department at the Health Protection Agency, Centre for Infections in Colindale North West London. She joined the Epidemiological Research Laboratory in 1978 to work on the large post-licensure safety and efficacy studies of pertussis vaccines that were being conducted following the collapse of the UK whooping cough immunisation programme in the mid 1970s. This experience prompted her continuing interest in the risks and benefits of vaccination programmes and organising trials of new vaccines. She has been involved with trials of acellular pertussis, MMR, Hib, meningococcal C vaccines and more recently the new pneumococcal vaccines. Her other interests include seroepidemiology and mathematical modelling, vaccine safety studies and viral infections in pregnancy. Professor Miller also has wide experience of committee membership, covering bodies such as the UK and European licensing authorities, the WHO Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety, various Data Safety Monitoring Boards, The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) subgroups and scientific organisations such as the Medical Research Council. She has also led or acted as an external expert on various European projects combined with her work for the European Medicines Evaluation Agency.’HERE

Another report in the Daily Telegraph reveals that the GSK version of the swine flu vaccine will contain mercury:

‘Prof David Salisbury, head of immunisation at the Department of Health, said the vaccines will arrive in vials containing about ten doses as it is not feasible to produce or store single-dose preloaded syringes on the scale needed to vaccine the 11m people who will be offered the vaccine between October and December.

‘He said, if only one or two doses in a vial are used on one day the GSK vaccine can be stored overnight in the fridge and the remaining doses used the next day. However the Baxter vaccine, which does not contain thiomersal, would have to be thrown away if the whole vial's contents were not used within three hours, he added.‘ (Telegraph.)

Initially, the vaccines are to be targeted children and adults with underlying health problems, and pregnant women, not groups on whom it is likely to have been trialed in the first place.
 
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Fears polio vaccine is now killer
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August 16 2009 at 07:49PM


London - Polio, the dreaded paralysing disease stamped out in the industrialised world, is spreading in Nigeria. And health officials say in some cases, it's caused by the vaccine used to fight it. In July, the World Health Organisation issued a warning that this vaccine-spread virus might extend beyond Africa. So far, 124 Nigerian children have been paralysed this year - about twice those afflicted in 2008. The polio problem is just the latest challenge to global health authorities trying to convince wary citizens that vaccines can save them. For years, myths have abounded about vaccines - that they were the West's plan to sterilise Africans or give them Aids. The sad polio reality fuels misguided fears and underscores the challenges authorities face. Nigeria and other poor nations use an oral polio vaccine because it's cheaper, easier, and protects entire communities. - AP

This article was originally published on page 12 of Cape Argus on August 16, 2009
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« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2009, 06:31:22 am »
Conditioning People to Accept Martial Law for Manufactured Swine Flu Pandemic
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1103ap_eu_med_swine_flu_game.html
By MARIA CHENG ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER


LONDON -- Since swine flu first emerged in April, it has sparked panic, vaccine production and now, a video game.

In an effort to further raise awareness, Dutch researchers have created a game that challenges players to control a new pandemic.

"It is actually what is happening now, what is happening in the real world," said Albert Osterhaus, head of virology at the Erasmus Medical Center, who designed "The Great Flu" game with colleagues.

The game can only be played online at http://www.thegreatflu.com and it is free. A World Health Organization spokesman said Monday the agency was not familiar with the game and had not had time to play it.

WHO has reported nearly 178,000 cases of swine flu including 1,462 deaths worldwide, though those numbers are believed to be a gross underestimate of the actual caseload, since hard-hit countries no longer test all cases with flu-like symptoms.

As the virus has spread worldwide, countries have tried different methods to slow it down and pharmaceutical companies are now racing to produce a swine flu vaccine.

The game begins with images of bedridden patients and graveyards from the 1918 Spanish flu. As the head of the fictitious "World Pandemic Control," players pick a flu strain, and then monitor that strain's spread around the world.

To fight the emerging outbreak, players use measures including setting up surveillance systems, stockpiling antivirals and vaccines, and closing schools and airports. Players also have a limited budget and are warned that "your actions to control the virus cost money, so keep an eye on it."

A running tally of the numbers of people infected and those who have died sit above the budget. Newspaper stories about the deadly virus and the global response to it - like riots breaking out worldwide - pop up to help players monitor the outbreak.

Messages from governments mirror the difficulties faced by international agencies like WHO. For instance, when players set up costly surveillance systems, the game often relays a message from governments that "we will comply with your directions...but we must inform you that the political support for this action is low in this region. Therefore, the effectiveness of the system may differ from your expectations."

Osterhaus said the video game's approximation of combating a pandemic, choosing between various interventions yet still watching the outbreak spread, gives people a sense of how difficult it is to make decisions in the public health world.
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« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2009, 06:39:41 am »

Normally it takes about 26 weeks (6 months) to develop a vaccine, but Baxter International (a pharmaceutical giant and major player in the race for a H1N1 vaccine) announced on June 12 it has a patented cell-based technology which reduces the development time to 13 weeks and was ready to complete their development this month...

So, there will be a vaccine that’s been developed in less than half the time for use in the general population by September this year... When did they test it then?

In the previous article I told you about my experience with the antiviral, Tamiflu, and my supposed diagnosis of Swine Flu. As much as last week’s article was anecdotal, it was written to illustrate that we are all vulnerable to being misdiagnosed, forced on the bandwagon and bullied into taking medication we don’t want to take.

Whilst the media seems to have backed down a bit in their coverage of Swine Flu cases, we are still ‘warned’ that the H1N1 flu virus can strike again and be ‘at large’ later this year with the approaching winter months.

On 6 August 2009 the World Health Organization (WHO) announced that the first Swine Flu vaccines are likely to be licensed for use in the general population in September of this year.

That was quick

Okay let’s take a moment to digest this... Normally it takes about 26 weeks (6 months) to develop a vaccine, but Baxter International (a pharmaceutical giant and major player in the race for a H1N1 vaccine) announced on June 12 it has a patented cell-based technology which reduces the development time to 13 weeks and was ready to complete their development this month...

Mid-June to end of June is two weeks, right? July had five weeks, right? So we are on 7 weeks. August, has four weeks, right? That makes 11 weeks... Am I the only person missing two weeks? In total that is, 15 weeks cut short on the development of a vaccine...

So, there will be a vaccine that’s been developed in less than half the time for use in the general population by September this year... When did they test it then?

Oh, hang on, I nearly forgot: In response to WHO’s Phase 6 alert level with the ‘outbreak of the pandemic’, the US Centres for Disease Control (CDC) declared the H1N1 flu pandemic a public health emergency, which allowed the American Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to authorise drug companies to “fast track” experimental vaccines. Meaning the new vaccines won’t be tested as thoroughly as vaccines which move through the normal licensing (and developing) process.

In other words, a fast tracked vaccine will be available for use in the general population long before it’s undergone adequate safety testing... It sounds as if we’re being duped... I don’t think proper testing will be done at all...

Perhaps this quote from a leading UK newspaper highlights my concern: ‘The path of a popular medicine from the laboratory to the chemist or doctor’s surgery can involve years of clinical trials on a select group of patients.

When the new vaccine for Swine Flu arrives in Britain, regulators said this weekend [12.07.09], it could be approved for use in just five days.’

Children first

Children will all be vaccinated first because according to the Department of Health and Human Services they are our “first priority”.

What? First priority for poisoning them with a novel H1N1 vaccination that has not yet undergone adequate safety testing?

If you have a child with an established health condition, do you really want him or her injected with an experimental vaccine? Children with underlying health problems will likely be the first to receive the vaccine, since they will be considered the most probable group to develop severe cases of the H1N1 virus. Unfortunately, these children are also the ones most vulnerable to serious side effects from the vaccine.

It gets worse, because there is no logic here: According to WHO, most cases of severe and fatal Swine Flu infections occurred in people aged 30 to 50. Many of those cases were seen in people who were already ill with disorders like asthma, heart disease, diabetes, autoimmune diseases and obesity. So why vaccinate our children first?

Cases of Swine Flu in healthy children have been mild in nature, with little or no medical intervention required. Informed parents, given a choice, will surely opt for a mild case of the flu over the potential health risks of an inadequately tested vaccine that can potentially cause long-term devastation of your child’s health, or worse.
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Not only is it dangerous to use an untested Swine Flu vaccine on the population, but there are numerous studies that have shown that vaccines simply don’t work:

• According to the 2006 Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, 51 separate studies concluded the flu vaccine worked no better than a placebo in 260,000 children ranging in age from six months to 23 months.

• A study published in the October 2008 Archives of Paediatric and Adolescent Medicine found flu vaccines in young children have made no difference in the number of flu-related doctor and hospital visits.

• As reported in a 2004 publication of the Archives of Disease in Childhood, a study of 800 children with asthma concluded those receiving a flu vaccine had a significantly increased risk of asthma-related doctor and emergency room visits.

• A more recent study released at the 2009 American Thoracic Society International Conference showed children with asthma who received a vaccine called FluMist had a 3-fold increased risk for hospitalisation.

• According to the 2007 Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, studies of over 65,000 healthy adults concluded vaccinations reduced the risk of flu by only six percent, and reduced missed work days by less than a single day. Vaccinations did not reduce the number of people who sought medical help or took time off from work.

 • The 2006 Cochrane Database also includes a review of 64 vaccination studies of the elderly across nearly 100 flu seasons. The studies showed flu vaccines were ineffective in preventing the flu in either nursing home patients or elderly living in the community.

• A study published in the Lancet last year found that influenza vaccination was NOT associated with a reduced risk of pneumonia in older people. This supports a study done five years ago, published in The New England Journal of Medicine.

• Research published in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine also confirms that there has been no decrease in deaths from influenza and pneumonia, despite the fact that vaccination coverage among the elderly has increased from 15 per cent in 1980 to 65 per cent now.

The real threat at the moment seems to be the vaccine and not Swine Flu...

Mass vaccination campaign

The UK government has ordered enough vaccine to cover the entire population. GPs are being told to prepare for a nationwide vaccination campaign.

Dr. Peter Holden, the British Medical Association’s lead negotiator on Swine Flu, is of the opinion that although Swine Flu is not causing serious illness in patients, UK health officials are eager to start a mass vaccination campaign, beginning with “priority groups.” Holden says the vaccinations will reduce the chances of a shortage of hospital beds because of people suffering from Swine Flu.

Why is the UK eager to vaccinate for a virus that isn’t causing serious illness? And why, if the Swine Flu isn’t causing serious illness, is Dr. Holden concerned about a shortage of hospital beds? It makes no sense!

To raise suspicions further, regulators at the European Medicines Agency (EMEA) said the fast-tracked procedure has involved clinical trials of a “mock-up” vaccine similar to the one that will be used for the biggest mass vaccination programme in generations. Mock-up vaccine? Generations to come? So this will be a reoccurring thing?

The worst is this quote from the EMEA: “The vaccines are authorised with a detailed risk management plan.” So, what they are really saying is: We didn’t test this vaccine properly, it is a mock-up and we foresee that it will be necessary to have a risk management plan when everything goes to pot!

Without wanting to sound as crazy as the rest of them, this sounds more and more to me like a form of population control that’s going a bit pear shaped.

Related Reading:
Swine Flu: My experience with the H1N1 virus and Tamiflu
Swine Flu: Only Another 749,983 To Go For The UK Pandemic Predictions To Be Accurate


Sources:
‘Swine Flu vaccine 'by September' published online 06.08.09, news.bbc.co.uk
‘Do Drug Companies Secretly Favour a World Flu Pandemic?’ by Dr, Mercola, published online 28.07.09, articles.mercola.com
‘Critical Alert: The Swine Flu Pandemic – Fact or Fiction?’ by Dr, Mercola, published online 21.04.09, articles.mercola.com
‘What are the Dangers of Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccination?’ by Dr. Mercola, published online 11.08.09, articles.mercola.com
‘Mortality reduction with influenza vaccine in patients with pneumonia outside "flu" season: pleiotropic benefits or residual confounding?’, Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2008 Sep 1;178(5):527-33. Epub 12.06.08
‘Swine Flu vaccine to be cleared after five-day trial’ published online 12.07.09, timesonline.co.uk
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« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2009, 07:04:32 am »
Pregnant women worry over vaccine
http://www.tulsaworld.com/site/printerfriendlystory.aspx?articleid=20090817_17_A1_Joeyan883936
by: KIM ARCHER World Staff Writer
Monday, August 17, 2009
8/17/2009 3:32:06 AM

At five months pregnant, Erin Brown isn't sure yet whether she will be vaccinated against the swine flu this fall.

"I'm still a little bit on the fence about it," said the 23-year-old Tulsan. "Just the idea of having a vaccine I don't know exactly how it was cultivated and what's in it is scary. I'm a little iffy about getting something that hasn't been tested very long when I'm growing a child."

Pregnant women across Tulsa and the state are echoing Brown's concerns, particularly since the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently put pregnant women among the five priority groups for swine flu immunizations.

Pregnant women are at higher risk of complications and death, and are four times as likely to be hospitalized with the disease, the CDC said.

"It's kind of one of those things where there is no clear answer," said Tiffany Bjorlie, owner of ECO baby + kids, 3516 S. Peoria Ave.

She said many of her pregnant customers have expressed concern about the vaccine.

"As long as you educate yourself on all sides of the issue, then you can make your decision," Bjorlie said.

Dr. Louise Thurman, medical director of IPS Research in Oklahoma City, says the vaccine is nearly identical to the typical flu vaccine that has been proven safe for years.

IPS Research is preparing to perform clinical trials on the swine flu vaccine later this month.

"The only difference is the type of virus used. In this case, it's H1N1. It's not a live vaccine, so you're not going to get the flu," she said.

Thurman said pregnant women have to weigh the risks themselves.

"In my view, if you got the H1N1 flu and died, that's a bad outcome," she said. "But if you get the shot, odds are high that you'll have no problems. Maybe you would have mild flu symptoms."

She said pregnant women who get the shot will pass on that immunity to their unborn child, just as it is passed on with the seasonal flu shot.

And through so-called "herd immunity," pregnant women will help reduce the flu in their own families and communities, Thurman said.

Pregnant women experience physiological changes that appear to make them more susceptible to complications and death from swine flu, said Dr. Stanley Grogg, co-chairman of the Oklahoma Immunization Advisory Committee and interim director of the Oklahoma State University Center for Health Sciences in Tulsa.

"You now have a baby inside and it's requiring more blood supply. So there are changes in the heart and the respiratory system," he said. "The baby is pushing up on your diaphragm. That makes it harder to take a big breath and harder to get particles of the virus out of your system."

Grogg believes the safety of vaccines has improved immensely since the 1976 debacle when public health officials urged all Americans to get vaccinated against a swine flu epidemic that never materialized. Instead, dozens of people became ill with a rare condition linked to the vaccine, and some people died.

"People got sicker from the vaccine than the disease itself," he said.

The seasonal flu shot varies each year and is based on guesswork as to which strains of the virus are expected to circulate, Grogg said. The novel swine flu vaccine will be built in a similar way, based upon a template already proven safe, he said.

"We have safety standards now that we didn't have back then," he said. "I am confident the Food and Drug Administration is not going to release the vaccine unless it's safe."


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« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2009, 07:33:15 am »


I have watched some videos of the 1976 swine flu vaccine program--one thing that was not made clear to me is; are they using the same needle on all the people with that needle gun?  

That in itself is unsanitary--I just never seen them change the needle.   :-\
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« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2009, 07:34:45 am »
Oh, real cute:

Bayer Scares the sh*t out of American Postal Employees With White Powder Sent Through Mail
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1174365
http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/10002338/bayer-triggers-scare-with-white-powder-sent-through-mail/?p=2338&tag=content;top-active

(Just giving an example of some of the crap we have to deal with from Big Pharma--in addition to everyone else that's totally raping us and the constitution right now)

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« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2009, 07:43:00 am »


I have watched some videos of the 1976 swine flu vaccine program--one thing that was not made clear to me is; are they using the same needle on all the people with that needle gun?   

That in itself is unsanitary--I just never seen them change the needed.   :-\

I don't know, but I do know that they still use them in the military.

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« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2009, 08:31:16 am »
From the FDA's own documentation:

http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/ac/05/transcripts/2005-4172t1.htm

"The role of the jet gun in the transmission of hepatitis C.  The Ped-O-Jet was introduced about 1950s, developed under a U.S. military contract for mass vaccinations of recruits of 600 to 1,000 injections per hour.  The WHO document says an hour and a half.

            If you go on an hourly basis, that's about six injections at 600 or 3.6 injections a second per hour.  If you go to an hour and a half, it's 9 seconds per injection or 5.4 injections per second.  That's a relatively rapid fire.  I think anybody's that's been around in those lines understand there's no time to waste.  Real close quarters and you're hustled through..."

[...]

"The Air Force Infectious Disease and Control Epidemiology Board, Department of Defense Wide Review of Vaccine Policies and Procedures said that injector nozzles were frequently contaminated with blood. What they did is they had -- I think it was probably a surprise visit to Parris Island.  And they witnessed a mass injection of a lot of recruits coming in. And they noted in that document that there the nozzles were frequently contaminated with blood.  There were no wiping or precautions taken..."

[...]

"The problem with the jet injector gun during the Board meeting in 1986, Captain Michael Stek, Jr., MC, USN presented data and press clippings to suggest that contamination of the jet injector gun which had been used in a private clinic in California in 1985 was responsible for causing hepatitis in 64 patients. The possibility was also raised that HIV infection might be transmitted by the jet gun when biological products such as gamma globulin were administered.  In numerous meetings the board recommended in 1988 that an injector gun be used only by authorized military and technical parts and sterilized according to standard procedures..."

[...]

"The manufacturer's recommendations recommended the devices be wiped in between each injection.  There was a meeting, I guess, of this organization in '99 where a representative of the company was here and they stated that in 35 years they were always wiped and never had an issue.

            I'd like to bring out at this point in time probably you never had an issue with hepatitis C by the simple fact a majority of people are asymptomatic and it takes decades before you find out you've got a problem.  Thirty-five years is not a stretch in this area.  The majority of the people won't have a problem until at this point in time..."

[...]

"The website did a survey, and this a partial selection of people that answered the survey.  We have answers from medics that administered the shots and received the shots, we have all different bases and military branches, and comments from the individuals that state the guns were not wiped.  I personally can attest to that.  They didn't wipe them before they nailed me or anybody before or after me..."
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« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2009, 09:08:29 am »

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKBNG41041620090817

UPDATE 1-BioSante says its adjuvant raises H1N1 vaccine efficacy
Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:02pm BST


* Adjuvant with new H1N1 vaccine gives 100 pct protection

* Shares up 25 pct in pre-market trade

Aug 17 (Reuters) - BioSante Pharmaceuticals Inc (BPAX.O: Quote, Profile, Research) said its adjuvant, BioVant, increases the efficacy of vaccines for multiple flu strains, including a potential new vaccine against H1N1 virus, or swine flu, sending its shares up 25 percent in pre-market trade.

An adjuvant is an ingredient that boosts the immune system response, which means that less active ingredient is needed in each dose.

The specialty pharmaceutical company said BioVant when used with a potential new vaccine against swine flu resulted in 100 percent protection from symptoms of illness, including weight loss, and death in animal studies.

Swine and bird flu vaccines using BioVant may allow for availability of a greater number of lower-dose vaccines, the company said.

Shares of the company were up 49 cents in pre-market trade on Monday. They closed at $1.96 Friday on Nasdaq.
"Civilization" has gone completely forking mad and I am taking my family and running for the hills.

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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #73 on: August 17, 2009, 09:25:39 am »
Did you notice that Buffett is now buying Pharmaceuticals and selling Energy?
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/14/news/companies/warren_buffett/index.htm


We could be rich too, if we had continual INSIDER INFO. This guy is a joke! He's as big a globalists as any of them. He will now capitalize on others pain when they bring in the flu epidemic (whether it is something or not).


Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2009, 09:43:40 am »
From the FDA's own documentation:

http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/ac/05/transcripts/2005-4172t1.htm

"The role of the jet gun in the transmission of hepatitis C.  The Ped-O-Jet was introduced about 1950s, developed under a U.S. military contract for mass vaccinations of recruits of 600 to 1,000 injections per hour.  The WHO document says an hour and a half.

            If you go on an hourly basis, that's about six injections at 600 or 3.6 injections a second per hour.  If you go to an hour and a half, it's 9 seconds per injection or 5.4 injections per second.  That's a relatively rapid fire.  I think anybody's that's been around in those lines understand there's no time to waste.  Real close quarters and you're hustled through..."

[...]

"The Air Force Infectious Disease and Control Epidemiology Board, Department of Defense Wide Review of Vaccine Policies and Procedures said that injector nozzles were frequently contaminated with blood. What they did is they had -- I think it was probably a surprise visit to Parris Island.  And they witnessed a mass injection of a lot of recruits coming in. And they noted in that document that there the nozzles were frequently contaminated with blood.  There were no wiping or precautions taken..."

[...]

"The problem with the jet injector gun during the Board meeting in 1986, Captain Michael Stek, Jr., MC, USN presented data and press clippings to suggest that contamination of the jet injector gun which had been used in a private clinic in California in 1985 was responsible for causing hepatitis in 64 patients. The possibility was also raised that HIV infection might be transmitted by the jet gun when biological products such as gamma globulin were administered.  In numerous meetings the board recommended in 1988 that an injector gun be used only by authorized military and technical parts and sterilized according to standard procedures..."

[...]

"The manufacturer's recommendations recommended the devices be wiped in between each injection.  There was a meeting, I guess, of this organization in '99 where a representative of the company was here and they stated that in 35 years they were always wiped and never had an issue.

            I'd like to bring out at this point in time probably you never had an issue with hepatitis C by the simple fact a majority of people are asymptomatic and it takes decades before you find out you've got a problem.  Thirty-five years is not a stretch in this area.  The majority of the people won't have a problem until at this point in time..."

[...]

"The website did a survey, and this a partial selection of people that answered the survey.  We have answers from medics that administered the shots and received the shots, we have all different bases and military branches, and comments from the individuals that state the guns were not wiped.  I personally can attest to that.  They didn't wipe them before they nailed me or anybody before or after me..."

They probably at least use different needles in the guns--I know some types of vaccines are more viscous than others (thick vs. thin) and a gun is necessary to inject it deep into the muscle.

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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2009, 10:02:40 am »


The whole scenario, allready planned in 2007 for a possible H5N1 scenario which was exactly played out in this very “airborne” H1N1 virus hype.

The idea was that a very deadly virus could mutate in something more nastier cause the H5N1 virus is not transmitable from human to human so making the H5N1 victims, single victims. So maybe the H5N1 virus kills off his host very quickly but has no time to spread causing it’s own dead end. So fact: harmless!

The H1N1 is a fast traveler cause of it’s airborne capabilities or maybe even it’s, being alive in the host without showing, the incubation time. What is the incubation time of the H1N1 anyways?

The H1N1 contains DNA typical to avian, swine and human viruses, including elements from European and Asian swine viruses? Especially the European and Asian swine virus combination is very puzzeling. And the H1N1 hasn’t been tracked back to any animal yet?

But the H1N1 virus is harmless too so why the fuzz? It sure filled some pockets with old stock Tamiflu ready to roll and sold. One problem “Tamiflu” is not a specific H1N1 killer but more a “Ten in one” any flu stricker with well known nasty side effects. So, why take it? The H1N1 is allready becoming immun for Tamiflu only making the virus stronger.

It’s filling the pockets of some vaccin companies with zero, zappa medical gain and even putting down an economy build from poker cards allready suffering from a severe crises. It’s good PR and crony capitalism.

I think it’s better to report all car accidents every day. Get rid of any speed limits and every body can drive like crazy. Result: More accidents more car selling, better clunkers. Also more dead people which would please the satanists always looking for blood. Porche sails will go up. Surgeans will be quicker on the job for the many car accident victims. Also more surgeons needed.


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« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2009, 10:23:31 am »
Did you notice that Buffett is now buying Pharmaceuticals and selling Energy?
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/14/news/companies/warren_buffett/index.htm


We could be rich too, if we had continual INSIDER INFO. This guy is a joke! He's as big a globalists as any of them. He will now capitalize on others pain when they bring in the flu epidemic (whether it is something or not).




Buffett is known to release info about his minor trades while his major trades are secret.  He did this with GE when he said he was buying them big only to see that people lost their shirts before GE got an $18 Billion Bailout.  Buffett would be broke if it were not for his $95 billion in bailout funding to his BS companies.

Look into Bill Gates who does not do these things. He has been dumping big Pharma.

Also Novartis is suing Glaxo, so infighting is going on. Sharks going after the last piece of chum. In the muddy waters, I would stay away from the market entirely. It is like Normandy, does not matter if you are axis or ally, the beach is filled with casualties.
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Re: Swine flu vaccine ... "It's a killer!"
« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2009, 10:32:34 am »
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Look into Bill Gates who does not do these things. He has been dumping big Pharma.

Bizarre.. Gates is doing the opposite of Buffett... (if this is true..)

Gates Foundation Sells Health-Care / Pharmaceutical Investments Buys Energy
http://visitbulgaria.info/11027-gates-foundation-sells-health-care-pharmaceutical-investments-buys-energy

According to a regulatory filing published Friday, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, one of the world’s largest private philanthropy funds, created by the billionaire founder Bill Gates of Microsoft Corp., sold almost all its pharmaceutical, biotechnology and health-care investments, including Wyeth, Merck & Co. and Eli Lilly & Co., buying shares in energy companies, instead.

The Seattle-based charity endowment, sold stakes in Pfizer Inc., Abbott Laboratories, Johnson & Johnson (2.5-million shares), Baxter International Inc. and BioMarin Pharmaceutical Inc. as of 30th June, even as it held on to its stake in cancer drug developer Seattle Genetics Inc., while buying energy stocks in Devon Energy Corp.

As well, the foundation also sold millions of shares in major drug manufacturing firms, such as, 14.9-million shares in Schering-Plough Corp., close to 1-million shares in Eli Lilly & Co., 8.1-million shares in Merck & Co. and 3.7-million shares in Wyeth. The foundation no longer holds shares in any of these companies.

In addition, the foundation liquidated other health and life sciences-related investments like Allos Therapeutics Inc., InterMune Inc., Auxilium Pharmaceuticals Inc. and Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.

Since, many of the foundation’s charity grants are disbursed to address developing country health issues, its decision to drastically reduce its exposure to health-related stocks is striking. The Obama administration’s proposed overhaul of the U. S. healthcare system may be behind the move, as there is considerable anxiety amongst drug-makers and healthcare insurance firms about the potential impact of the reforms, and which may well put pressure on prescription drug prices.

The foundation has also liquidated its holdings in Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd., an Israeli generic drug manufacturing firm, even though generic drugs offer stiff competition to the drug manufacturers.

According to the filing, the foundation has also bought stakes in energy companies like XTO Energy Inc., Range Resources Corp. (half a million shares) and Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. (700,000 shares).

Other new holdings include, 1-million-shares (American depositary shares) in Mexican mogul Carlos Slim Helu’s telecommunications company - America Movil SAB de CV, Latin America’s largest mobile-phone company, M&T Bank Corp., whose second- biggest shareholder is Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc., and a 1.5 million shares in train company CSX Corp.

The total value of the foundation’s investments dropped to $7.49-billion last quarter, from $8.48-billion end-March. Two-thirds of the foundation’s endowment of $30.2-billion are devoted to health, with the rest spent on education, hunger and poverty.

Michael Larson, the foundation’s investment manager, was unavailable for comment.


    

Gates foundation exits pharma cos to enter energy
Bloomberg /  August 16, 2009, 0:20 IST
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/gates-foundation-exits-pharma-cos-to-enter-energy/367116/

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, created by the billionaire founder of Microsoft Corp, sold almost all its pharmaceutical holdings, including Wyeth, Merck & Co and Eli Lilly & Co, and bought shares of energy companies.

The foundation also sold stakes in Pfizer Inc, Abbott Laboratories, Johnson & Johnson, Baxter International Inc and BioMarin Pharmaceutical Inc as of June 30, according to a US regulatory filing on Friday. The foundation held on to a stake in cancer drug developer Seattle Genetics Inc, and bought energy stocks such as Devon Energy Corp.

The total value of the foundation’s investments listed in the filing dropped to $7.49 billion last quarter, from $8.48 billion in the previous three months. The foundation, which has an endowment of $30.2 billion, devotes two-thirds of its donations to health and the rest on education, hunger and poverty.

The foundation also bought stakes in energy companies XTO Energy Inc, Range Resources Corp and Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. Other new holdings included America Movil SAB, Latin America’s largest mobile-phone company, and M&T Bank Corp, whose second-biggest shareholder is Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc.

Michael Larson, who manages the foundation’s investments, didn’t immediately return a call seeking comment.

Money managers who oversee more than $100 million in equities must file a Form 13F within 45 days of each quarter’s end to disclose their US-listed stocks, options and convertible bonds. The filings don’t show non-US securities or how much cash the firms hold.


   But wait.... Buffett donates $1.25 bn Berkshire shares to Gates Foundation
        http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/buffett-donates-125-bn-berkshire-shares-to-gates-foundation/21/20/66534/on
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« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2009, 10:52:45 am »
Bizarre.. Gates is doing the opposite of Buffett... (if this is true..)

Gates Foundation Sells Health-Care / Pharmaceutical Investments Buys Energy
http://visitbulgaria.info/11027-gates-foundation-sells-health-care-pharmaceutical-investments-buys-energy

According to a regulatory filing published Friday, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, one of the world’s largest private philanthropy funds, created by the billionaire founder Bill Gates of Microsoft Corp., sold almost all its pharmaceutical, biotechnology and health-care investments, including Wyeth, Merck & Co. and Eli Lilly & Co., buying shares in energy companies, instead.

The Seattle-based charity endowment, sold stakes in Pfizer Inc., Abbott Laboratories, Johnson & Johnson (2.5-million shares), Baxter International Inc. and BioMarin Pharmaceutical Inc. as of 30th June, even as it held on to its stake in cancer drug developer Seattle Genetics Inc., while buying energy stocks in Devon Energy Corp.

As well, the foundation also sold millions of shares in major drug manufacturing firms, such as, 14.9-million shares in Schering-Plough Corp., close to 1-million shares in Eli Lilly & Co., 8.1-million shares in Merck & Co. and 3.7-million shares in Wyeth. The foundation no longer holds shares in any of these companies.

In addition, the foundation liquidated other health and life sciences-related investments like Allos Therapeutics Inc., InterMune Inc., Auxilium Pharmaceuticals Inc. and Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.

Since, many of the foundation’s charity grants are disbursed to address developing country health issues, its decision to drastically reduce its exposure to health-related stocks is striking. The Obama administration’s proposed overhaul of the U. S. healthcare system may be behind the move, as there is considerable anxiety amongst drug-makers and healthcare insurance firms about the potential impact of the reforms, and which may well put pressure on prescription drug prices.

The foundation has also liquidated its holdings in Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd., an Israeli generic drug manufacturing firm, even though generic drugs offer stiff competition to the drug manufacturers.

According to the filing, the foundation has also bought stakes in energy companies like XTO Energy Inc., Range Resources Corp. (half a million shares) and Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. (700,000 shares).

Other new holdings include, 1-million-shares (American depositary shares) in Mexican mogul Carlos Slim Helu’s telecommunications company - America Movil SAB de CV, Latin America’s largest mobile-phone company, M&T Bank Corp., whose second- biggest shareholder is Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc., and a 1.5 million shares in train company CSX Corp.

The total value of the foundation’s investments dropped to $7.49-billion last quarter, from $8.48-billion end-March. Two-thirds of the foundation’s endowment of $30.2-billion are devoted to health, with the rest spent on education, hunger and poverty.

Michael Larson, the foundation’s investment manager, was unavailable for comment.


    

Gates foundation exits pharma cos to enter energy
Bloomberg /  August 16, 2009, 0:20 IST
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/gates-foundation-exits-pharma-cos-to-enter-energy/367116/

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, created by the billionaire founder of Microsoft Corp, sold almost all its pharmaceutical holdings, including Wyeth, Merck & Co and Eli Lilly & Co, and bought shares of energy companies.

The foundation also sold stakes in Pfizer Inc, Abbott Laboratories, Johnson & Johnson, Baxter International Inc and BioMarin Pharmaceutical Inc as of June 30, according to a US regulatory filing on Friday. The foundation held on to a stake in cancer drug developer Seattle Genetics Inc, and bought energy stocks such as Devon Energy Corp.

The total value of the foundation’s investments listed in the filing dropped to $7.49 billion last quarter, from $8.48 billion in the previous three months. The foundation, which has an endowment of $30.2 billion, devotes two-thirds of its donations to health and the rest on education, hunger and poverty.

The foundation also bought stakes in energy companies XTO Energy Inc, Range Resources Corp and Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. Other new holdings included America Movil SAB, Latin America’s largest mobile-phone company, and M&T Bank Corp, whose second-biggest shareholder is Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc.

Michael Larson, who manages the foundation’s investments, didn’t immediately return a call seeking comment.

Money managers who oversee more than $100 million in equities must file a Form 13F within 45 days of each quarter’s end to disclose their US-listed stocks, options and convertible bonds. The filings don’t show non-US securities or how much cash the firms hold.


   But wait.... Buffett donates $1.25 bn Berkshire shares to Gates Foundation
        http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/buffett-donates-125-bn-berkshire-shares-to-gates-foundation/21/20/66534/on

It is not that bizarre, what I am saying is that the public follows Buffett so he propagandizes his small trades while his big trades are done in secret.  Bill Gates has not done this as a matter of historical record. Therefore when Buffett says he is selling, he is probably buying.  As far as Gates, it is probably accurate as to what he is doing. They are connected via the non-profit and their servitude to the British royals, but their media attention to their trading is different.  Gates has not written the required 10 books for all traders to read whereas Buffett has.  When Buffett says he is buying big Pharma it is like when Gates says that Windows Vista is more secure.
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« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2009, 10:53:40 am »
Over 1 billion people in India... this could get interesting...
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New law to replace century old Epidemic Act,1897: Azad
http://www.newsonair.com/news.asp?cat=national&id=NN259

Aug 17
New guidelines to contain the spread of swine flu are to be issued in a day or two. Speaking on the main features of guidelines, the Union Health Minister Mr. Ghulam Nabi Azad in an informal interaction with senior editors of the print and electronic media said morning assembly in schools across the country should be discontinued. The class teachers are mandated to check each student for symptoms of any flu and take action for treatment and medication as per the advice of the doctor.

Elaborating on the steps being taken by the government to contain the spread swine flu, he said, a new vaccine is being developed in the next 5 to 7 months for which the WHO has given the seed from the Atlanta based centre for disease control. A new law is also under preparation to replace the century old Epidemic Act, 1897 to include more pandemic disease in the list so as to effectively deal with such situations. Allaying apprehensions of possibility of spreading swine flu to rural areas. Mr. Azad said the state government has been told to take necessary steps. He asserted that the centre will extend all possible help to them in this regard. The minister of information and Broadcasting Ms. Ambika Soni said ,all the media units are co-ordinating and publicizing programmes aimed at bringing about awareness among the masses.
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately