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Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine failed in volunteers
Last Updated: Thursday, November 8, 2007 | 9:45 AM ET
The Associated Press

New data on an experimental AIDS vaccine that failed to work shows volunteers who got the shots were far more likely to get infected with HIV through sex or other risky behaviour than those who got dummy injections.

The new details, released Wednesday by drugmaker Merck & Co., don't answer the crucial question of whether the vaccine's failure also spells doom for many similar AIDS vaccines now in testing.

And researchers weren't sure why more of the vaccinated volunteers wound up getting HIV than those who got dummy shots.

Merck, based in Whitehouse Station, N.J., announced Sept. 21 that it was stopping the study because the vaccine didn't work. It was a stunning setback in the push to develop an AIDS vaccine.

The vaccine is made from a common cold virus with three synthetic HIV genes tucked inside. It's designed to stimulate the immune system to kill any HIV-infected cells encountered in the future.

However, the researchers found that volunteers with pre-existing immunity to this particular cold virus were much more likely to get infected with HIV if they got the AIDS vaccine than if they got a dummy shot.

Some 3,000 people, mostly homosexual men and female sex workers, volunteered to get the experimental vaccine or a dummy shot. All were warned to protect themselves from AIDS exposure.

At the time the study was halted in September, Merck said 24 of 741 volunteers who got the vaccine in one segment of testing later developed HIV; 21 of 762 participants who got dummy shots also
were infected.

New data released Wednesday showed that to date, 49 of 914 vaccinated men became infected with HIV, compared with 33 of the 922 men who got dummy shots. Only one woman and a small number of heterosexual men became infected.

"In my mind, this doesn't damn anything," Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said of the vaccine's failure. "It tells you you need to be very careful with every aspect" of vaccine design and testing. The international testing was partly funded by the U.S. National Institutes of Health.

Merck's head of medical affairs for vaccines, Mark Feinberg, said it could be a few years before further data mining and results of other drugmakers' vaccine tests clear up the mystery.

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Great, so they basically helped people get AIDS.

Fantastic...

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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 02:15:18 am »
Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine failed in volunteers
Last Updated: Thursday, November 8, 2007 | 9:45 AM ET
The Associated Press

New data on an experimental AIDS vaccine that failed to work shows volunteers who got the shots were far more likely to get infected with HIV through sex or other risky behaviour than those who got dummy injections.

The new details, released Wednesday by drugmaker Merck & Co., don't answer the crucial question of whether the vaccine's failure also spells doom for many similar AIDS vaccines now in testing.

And researchers weren't sure why more of the vaccinated volunteers wound up getting HIV than those who got dummy shots.

Merck, based in Whitehouse Station, N.J., announced Sept. 21 that it was stopping the study because the vaccine didn't work. It was a stunning setback in the push to develop an AIDS vaccine.

The vaccine is made from a common cold virus with three synthetic HIV genes tucked inside. It's designed to stimulate the immune system to kill any HIV-infected cells encountered in the future.

However, the researchers found that volunteers with pre-existing immunity to this particular cold virus were much more likely to get infected with HIV if they got the AIDS vaccine than if they got a dummy shot.

Some 3,000 people, mostly homosexual men and female sex workers, volunteered to get the experimental vaccine or a dummy shot. All were warned to protect themselves from AIDS exposure.

At the time the study was halted in September, Merck said 24 of 741 volunteers who got the vaccine in one segment of testing later developed HIV; 21 of 762 participants who got dummy shots also
were infected.

New data released Wednesday showed that to date, 49 of 914 vaccinated men became infected with HIV, compared with 33 of the 922 men who got dummy shots. Only one woman and a small number of heterosexual men became infected.

"In my mind, this doesn't damn anything," Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said of the vaccine's failure. "It tells you you need to be very careful with every aspect" of vaccine design and testing. The international testing was partly funded by the U.S. National Institutes of Health.

Watch this be their excuse when the experimental flu one starts killing little kids. It's ok to experimentally inject them with dangerous viruses, as long as you're "careful with every aspect of it". ?

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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2009, 02:43:10 am »
Warning Is Sent to AIDS Vaccine Volunteers

By Craig Timberg
Washington Post Foreign Service
October 25, 2007

S. Africans Among Recipients Who May Be at Higher Risk of Contracting Virus

JOHANNESBURG, Oct. 24 -- South African AIDS researchers have begun warning hundreds of volunteers that a highly touted experimental vaccine they received in recent months might make them more, not less, likely to contract HIV in the midst of one of the world's most rampant epidemics.

The move stems from the discovery last month that an AIDS vaccine developed by Merck & Co. might have led to more infections than it averted among study subjects in the United States and other countries. Among those who received at least two doses of the vaccine, 19 contracted HIV compared with 11 of those given placebos.

Researchers shut down the trial on the grounds that the vaccine was proving ineffective, but the surge in infection among vaccinated volunteers prompted intense scientific debate and anxiety among researchers. The failure of the Merck vaccine is the latest in a series of disappointing results for research projects aimed at curbing AIDS.

"This is my worst nightmare," said Glenda Gray, the lead South Africa investigator for the vaccine study. "I haven't slept for days. I have a headache. I'm ready to resign from trials for the rest of my life."

Researchers in Soweto, Cape Town, Durban and two other sites began contacting South Africa's 801 trial participants on Tuesday, mainly by cellphone text message. The goal is to tell each one individually whether they had received a placebo or the vaccine, a process called "unblinding" the trial. Researchers are telling the roughly half who received the vaccine that it might have increased their risk of contracting HIV.

"It's quite shocking," said Nelly Nonoise, 26, who had received three injections of the vaccine in her left shoulder.

She added, "I probably wouldn't have joined the study knowing there's a risk."

Another participant, Nonhlanhla Nqakala, 22, said she thought the text message urging her to visit the vaccine test site meant she had tested positive for HIV. Her brother and a close friend had the disease and died, she said.

Nqakala said she was relieved when a doctor explained that she was not infected, but the news of a possible problem with the vaccine -- she had received three doses, not placebos -- left her distressed. "I thought the trial would help us find a cure for HIV," she said.

Merck developed the vaccine in conjunction with the U.S. National Institutes of Health, and until September's announcement, researchers worldwide considered it the most promising candidate yet in a multibillion-dollar quest for an AIDS vaccine dating to the 1980s.

Scientists crafted the vaccine by genetically altering a common virus to include elements of HIV. They hoped that it would trigger an immune response that would make recipients less likely to contract HIV, or at least delay the onset of full-blown AIDS.

The vaccine could not have caused infection, researchers say, but it could have caused immunological changes that made it easier for the virus to take hold during a later exposure.

The Merck vaccine trials took place in 15 cities in the United States, including Boston, Los Angeles and New York, and three in Canada. There also were sites in Peru, Brazil, Australia, Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Jamaica. Those trials began in December 2004 and included 3,000 participants, mostly gay men.

In South Africa -- where an estimated 5.5 million people are infected with HIV, more than in any other country -- the study used the same vaccine but was administered separately. The trial here started later, with the first injections this year, and had its own ethics oversight board. Most of the subjects were heterosexual.

The ethics oversight board in the United States, which monitored the trial everywhere but in South Africa, has not decided whether to tell participants if they received the placebo or the vaccine, said Mark Feinberg, vice president for medical affairs and policy for Merck.

Continuing research could be compromised, he said, if participants were told immediately whether they received the placebo or the vaccine. Vaccine researchers are scheduled to meet in Seattle on Nov. 7.

"Given the complexity of the issue, we feel the best conclusions will be reached when all the data are analyzed in their entirety," Feinberg said from Atlanta, where he was traveling.

He added that individual participants who want to know whether they received the vaccine will be told. Researchers also are counseling all study participants that the vaccine may have increased HIV risk for those who received it.

Other AIDS studies also have had unexpected results. Trials of two vaginal microbicide gels to prevent HIV led to more infections among those using the products instead of placebos. A massive study in Zimbabwe of the ability of HIV counseling and testing to prevent the spread of the epidemic found more infections among those with expanded access to testing.

http://www.saynotogmos.org/ud2007/uoct07b.php#aids

That Mark Feinberg [email protected]@rd is scum of the earth. Responsible for the death of millions. And you thought Dr. Mengeles was bad. There are worse walking the earth today.
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 02:49:21 am »
And researchers weren't sure why more of the vaccinated volunteers wound up getting HIV than those who got dummy shots.

Jesus God. What buffoons. Stop giving AIDS to people, you scientific monsters. Did these same researchers look into the Baxter LETHAL INFLUENZA vaccine from last year?

Isn't it now more obvious than ever what's going on? By incompetence, or by design, mankind is at the mercy of mass murderers.

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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
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Trials of two vaginal microbicide gels to prevent HIV led to more infections among those using the products instead of placebos. A massive study in Zimbabwe of the ability of HIV counseling and testing to prevent the spread of the epidemic found more infections among those with expanded access to testing.

Interesting how they included this warning in passing. Isn't this particular mircobicide being sold to women here in the U.S. ?

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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
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Merck, based in Whitehouse Station, N.J., announced Sept. 21 that it was stopping the study because the vaccine didn't work. It was a stunning setback in the push to develop an AIDS vaccine.

A must read article, here are some excerpts. Note Merck produced the Hepatitis B "vaccine"

http://notaids.com/en/node/84
The Gay Experiment That Started AIDS In America
by Alan Cantwell, M.D

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Researchers who claim AIDS is a man-made disease believe it is much more likely that these two primate viruses were introduced and spread during the government’s recruitment of thousands of male homosexuals beginning in 1974.

Large numbers of gay men in Manhattan donated blood for the experimental hepatitis B vaccine trial, which took place at the New York Blood Center in Manhattan in 1978. Extensive evidence supporting the man-made theory of AIDS is easily found on the Internet by Googling: man-made origin of AIDS; and in my two books, “AIDS and the Doctors of Death” and “Queer Blood: The Secret AIDS Genocide Plot.”

Government interest in “gay health” before the AIDS epidemic

Beginning in the mid-1970s, government scientists became interested in the health of gay men, particularly in the realm of sexually-transmitted diseases, and specifically in the sexual transmission of the hepatitis B virus. The early 1970s was a time when large numbers of gays come out of the closet and identified themselves as homosexuals at government-sponsored health clinics. Organizations such as the Gay Men’s Health Project were formed at this time. Promiscuous gays were avidly sought as volunteers to test the efficacy of a newly-developed hepatitis B vaccine manufactured by Merck and the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

By 1977 over 13,000 Manhattan gays were screened to secure the final 1083 men who would serve as guinea pigs to test the hepatitis B vaccine. The vaccine was manufactured from the combined plasma of 30 highly selected gay men who carried the hepatitis B virus in their blood. Developed over a period of 65 weeks during 1977-1978 and tested for six months in chimpanzees (the primate in which HIV is thought to have originated), the first group of gay men were inoculated at the New York Blood Center in November 1978.
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The gay hepatitis B experiments (1978-1981)

The experimental hepatitis B vaccine injected into gays was unlike any other vaccine previously made. As stated, it was developed in chimpanzees and manufactured in a year-long process of sterilization and purification of the pooled blood of 30 gay men who were hepatitis B virus carriers.
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Never mentioned by AIDS historians is the fact that the New York Blood Center established a chimp virus laboratory for viral vaccine research in West Africa in 1974. One of the purposes of VILAB II, in Robertsfield, Liberia, was to develop the hepatitis B vaccine in chimps. The lab also prides itself by releasing “rehabilitated” (but virus-infected) chimps back into the wild, perhaps accounting for some of the ancestors of HIV and the KS virus found in the jungle by some government researchers.

The Virus Cancer Program and the birth of AIDS
In the decade before AIDS the Virus Cancer Program (1968-1980), sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, attempted to prove that viruses caused human cancer. Ultimately the Program was unsuccessful in providing proof, yet it succeeded in building up the field of animal retrovirology, which led to a more complete understanding of how cancer-causing and immunosuppressive viruses in animals might cause disease in humans. The VCP was also the birthplace of genetic engineering, molecular biology, and the human genome project.

As the VCP was winding down in the late 1970s, the gay experiments began in New York City.

The introduction of HIV and the KS herpes virus into gay men during this period (along with some “novel” and now-patented mycoplasmas discovered at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology) miraculously revived the career of Robert Gallo and made him the most famous virologist in the world. And, of course, turned the “failure” of the VCP into a triumph by providing proof that these primate-derived viruses could cause disease in humans.
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The fate of all the men who participated in the hepatitis B vaccine trials in six U.S cities has never been revealed. However, it is likely from the statistics presented in JAMA in 1986 that many, if not most, of the men eventually died of AIDS. The actual number of AIDS deaths has never been revealed, nor have the individual medical records been studied. Attempts to secure this information have been rebuffed by the Blood Center, due to the “confidential” nature of the experiment.
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2009, 02:07:50 pm »
If your knowledge or beliefs about HIV and AIDS has been formed by what you have read in the mainstream media and fed by the eugenics medical industrial complex, please visit http://www.rethinkingaids.com/ for a real truth scientific appraisal of the whole issue.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2009, 05:16:20 am »
If your knowledge or beliefs about HIV and AIDS has been formed by what you have read in the mainstream media and fed by the eugenics medical industrial complex, please visit http://www.rethinkingaids.com/ for a real truth scientific appraisal of the whole issue.

Well is aids not real or is it a bioweapon? I don't have time to research it for 10 hours so please give me a brief summary of your take on it if you can.

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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2009, 05:37:47 am »
Well is aids not real or is it a bioweapon? I don't have time to research it for 10 hours so please give me a brief summary of your take on it if you can.

AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) is real. The question is how does one 'acquire' it. There's no real evidence that it's caused by a virus. The treatment prescribed definitely suppresses the immune system: of that there is no doubt.

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2009, 08:04:24 am »
AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) is real. The question is how does one 'acquire' it. There's no real evidence that it's caused by a virus. The treatment prescribed definitely suppresses the immune system: of that there is no doubt.



ALl the HIV does not cause AIDS stuff is disinfo to stop people from seeing that HIV came from SIV and was manufactured with government oversight and protection. We have already gone through this a few times before. I was fooled too at the beginning but when you peel back the layers it is complete disinfo to discredit us and people fighting for justice for those infected. I can post more info on this scam if necessary but a search on this forum will yield some good info.
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 08:41:56 am »
ALl the HIV does not cause AIDS stuff is disinfo to stop people from seeing that HIV came from SIV and was manufactured with government oversight and protection. We have already gone through this a few times before. I was fooled too at the beginning but when you peel back the layers it is complete disinfo to discredit us and people fighting for justice for those infected. I can post more info on this scam if necessary but a search on this forum will yield some good info.

Yes, we've argued about this before and I still maintain my position. There never has been any credible evidence for the existence of HIV nor any evidence that it is a causative agent for anything. Nobel prize winner Cary Mullins, the inventor of the PMCR test that is used as the definitive test for the presence of 'HIV' will agree with me  and so will Peter Duesberg, the pioneer researcher of retro-viruses.

Boyd Graves is a nutcase.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 09:39:55 am »
Yes, we've argued about this before and I still maintain my position. There never has been any credible evidence for the existence of HIV nor any evidence that it is a causative agent for anything. Nobel prize winner Cary Mullins, the inventor of the PMCR test that is used as the definitive test for the presence of 'HIV' will agree with me  and so will Peter Duesberg, the pioneer researcher of retro-viruses.

Boyd Graves is a nutcase.

well we kind of relate it here like the no plane theory.  it discredits us and is counteractive to showing that the government created HIV. Watch the following movie (not sure if you have): "The Origin of AIDS,Polio Vaccine-The Smoking Gun".  This is the information that has been suppressed and continues to be supressed. It is based on decades of research and goes to the origin of the disease and exactly how it was created.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4538748/Origin_of_AIDS_Polio_Vaccine-The_Smoking_Gun_CBC
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2009, 10:19:04 am »
well we kind of relate it here like the no plane theory.  it discredits us and is counteractive to showing that the government created HIV. Watch the following movie (not sure if you have): "The Origin of AIDS,Polio Vaccine-The Smoking Gun".  This is the information that has been suppressed and continues to be supressed. It is based on decades of research and goes to the origin of the disease and exactly how it was created.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4538748/Origin_of_AIDS_Polio_Vaccine-The_Smoking_Gun_CBC

Yes, I have seen that movie and disagree with it because it is based on the premise that HIV actually exists. I've doubted the existence of HIV since the theory of its existence was first postulated by the infamous well-known scientific fraud Robert Gallo at a press conference (not a peer reviewed journal) in 1984.

What muddies the waters in this debate is the fact that the eugenics technocrats have been attempting to create a virus to fulfill their dream of depopulating the planet and people have a natural tendency to assume those technocrats are actually some superior, super intelligent life-form, when in fact, they have failed every time. Some time in the mid 20th century, the theory of viruses gained credence (due to the invention of the electron microscope), then in the 1960s and 70s a lot of research funding was awarded to laboratories examining the possibility that cancer was caused by a virus. That was complete bullshit and when people started to wake up to that after 20 years of futile research, suddenly  the AIDS industry appeared.
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2009, 12:03:30 pm »
Yes, I have seen that movie and disagree with it because it is based on the premise that HIV actually exists. I've doubted the existence of HIV since the theory of its existence was first postulated by the infamous well-known scientific fraud Robert Gallo at a press conference (not a peer reviewed journal) in 1984.

What muddies the waters in this debate is the fact that the eugenics technocrats have been attempting to create a virus to fulfill their dream of depopulating the planet and people have a natural tendency to assume those technocrats are actually some superior, super intelligent life-form, when in fact, they have failed every time. Some time in the mid 20th century, the theory of viruses gained credence (due to the invention of the electron microscope), then in the 1960s and 70s a lot of research funding was awarded to laboratories examining the possibility that cancer was caused by a virus. That was complete bullshit and when people started to wake up to that after 20 years of futile research, suddenly  the AIDS industry appeared.

do you have the other thread? can we discuss it there as this is a different topic and this forum does not promote the HIV does not cause AIDS theory.  So it is off-topic for this forum, but most definitely can be discussed, just not here if that is cool with you.
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2009, 12:37:51 pm »
Did anyone notice that they disabled commenting on that particular article...

Looks like they didn't like the feedback...
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2009, 01:11:56 pm »
do you have the other thread? can we discuss it there as this is a different topic and this forum does not promote the HIV does not cause AIDS theory.  So it is off-topic for this forum, but most definitely can be discussed, just not here if that is cool with you.

Sure, let's get back to this thread: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=34656.0

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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2009, 01:37:12 pm »
Sure, let's get back to this thread: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=34656.0

Nothing like a bit of grave digging to get the day going along. Alas, poor Yorick.

What I find interesting about this is that after 25+ years, there IS debate over what this disease is (AIDS).
They really did a good job, when even the greatest scientists of today debate over what it is, after all the advancements over the years. Perfect deniability.  They created just what they were paid for.
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine failed in volunteers (Nov 2007)
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2009, 02:08:20 pm »
Great, so they basically helped people get AIDS.

Fantastic...

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Which is also what will most likely happen with this years H1N1 Flu "Vaccine".


The vaccine will "help" the vaccinated victim's own immune system kill them via a cytokine storm.
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2009, 01:42:34 pm »
Still researching:

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Evidence is accumulating that AIDS vaccines based on the HIV glycoprotein not only undermine the immune system of individuals but are also likely to create deadly viruses and bacteria that can spread through entire populations [11].

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GMbioWeapons.php

12 November 2001
GM & Biological Weapons, Scientists Call for International Watchdog

In August, Imperial College of London University was prosecuted and ordered to pay £65 000 in fines and legal fees for exposing the public to a deadly new hybrid of the dengue fever virus and gene sequences associated with hepatitis C.

Earlier in the year, Imperial College was prosecuted for a ‘seriously flawed’ approach to health and safety involving research on HIV, the virus associated with AIDS.

In 1999, Edinburgh University was the first research institution to be prosecuted for work on HIV under new regulations governing research on dangerous genetically modified microorganisms in the lab.

Serious concerns have been raised over the kinds of research that are being done in genetic engineering research laboratories around the world.

Researcher in Kyoto University Japan and in other laboratories have created ‘SHIVs’, hybrids between the human and monkey AIDS virus containing human interleukin genes that suppress immune response against viruses, in order to investigate the role of the interleukins in AIDs disease [7].

One SHIV used in monkeys and mutated into a pathogen so powerful that it kills rhesus macaques in weeks [9]. But this is now used as an AIDS vaccine challenge in all United States NIH-funded efforts.

The safety of genetic engineered vaccines is being called into question.

Evidence is accumulating that AIDS vaccines based on the HIV glycoprotein not only undermine the immune system of individuals but are also likely to create deadly viruses and bacteria that can spread through entire populations [11].

See "GM AIDS virus more lethal" by Joe Cummins & Mae-Wan Ho ISIS Report, July 19, 2001 www.i-sis.org.uk; also, this issue.
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2009, 02:02:29 pm »
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Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)

I love the way that they proclaim ignorance.  After all, how would they know the effects of their own vaccine?  Of course, Bayer released AIDS to the third world under the guise of medication, too.  I'm sure this is just some strange coincidence.  You see, the AIDS virus is a processing aid that gets into the drug....NOT. It's ridiculous. Things like this just don't happen by mistake. They have also released medications to the third world which resulted in infertility. I can see a pattern.

The following is a report by Dr. J. Michael Bestler, M.D., about the hysteria unleashed upon the population by the medical establishment in the name of AIDS. It is a must read, and he later won a Nobel Prize for his work on the topic.


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“People like to find a cause for events, preferably a singular cause. And preferably with a little bit of the strange and exotic. HIV fits this perfectly. I just began to doubt the HIV hypothesis about 15 years ago in the infancy of the AIDS hysteria, and then I encountered the work of Peter Duesberg, professor of molecular and cellular biology at the University of California at Berkeley. My doubts coalesced into a conviction, AIDS is not the result of HIV infection.

So here goes, and no one is going to like this but when Duesberg and I share the Nobel Prize in Medicine, remember I told you so. AIDS results from unhealthy circumstances over a prolonged period of time, poor hygiene, poor physical habits, poor diet, chronic use of drugs, or a weird life style combining all of these factors as is found in the active homosexual life. We have known for many years the active homosexual has a shortened life span. Blood samples taken from these men while living or at autopsy reveal large volumes of HIV, but HIV did not cause AIDS, which is the name we have given to this pattern of disease and death.

But in the 1980's and 1990's, when investigators found the HIV, they proudly proclaimed the discovery of the cause of AIDS. It was HIV. Eureka! They were terribly wrong. The cause of AIDS was and is physical debilitation brought on by chosen life style or more commonly, as in Africa, brought on by malnutrition and neglect. HIV is a spectator virus, an opportunistic virus taking advantage of an already weakened immune system. It lives in many of us who are doing just fine. But health investigators under the spur of public concern falsely identified HIV as a killer virus and they began the chemical assault on this innocent bug. Most of the drugs used in their initial assaults were murderous drugs we used in the early 60’s to treat some cancers. We had stopped using them because they were killing more patients than the cancers were, but we  reactivated these killer drugs to attack HIV, and the death rate from AIDS shot skywards, but it wasn’t the virus that was killing, but rather these enormously lethal drugs we were pouring into these already severely weakened patients.

Now in desperation, health officials employed even more lethal drugs, and the death rate climbed again. Panic. It's an epidemic! Do we remember those hysterical claims that soon almost all of us would be struck by AIDS. However, it was an epidemic caused not by HIV, but by deadly poisons posing as medicines. With a little more time researchers developed  drugs not quite so toxic, and the death rate from AIDS leveled off, and began to even drop. These facts are ignored, or hotly denied because an entire industry and medical specialty has grownup directed to the treatment of AIDS, supposedly caused by HIV.

HIV was just a poor benign virus just trying to make a living when suddenly all hell broke loose. Crazyeyed medical investigators and the happily collaborating drug companies are making a handsome living in pursuit and annihilation of HIV. But HIV is tough and it will be around long after this huge industry has gone the way of the Stanley Steamer.”
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2009, 09:10:55 pm »
It is rather odd when you think about the way A.I.D.S and H1N1 are inversely related.

-- AIDS kills via turning off your immune system, essentially turning off white blood cell production.

-- H1N1 kills via turning your immune system up to level 12 on max setting of 10, and you die due to the flood of white blood cells in your circulatory system.

They can turn your immune system completely off, or on.
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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2009, 10:36:09 pm »
It is rather odd when you think about the way A.I.D.S and H1N1 are inversely related.

-- AIDS kills via turning off your immune system, essentially turning off white blood cell production.

-- H1N1 kills via turning your immune system up to level 12 on max setting of 10, and you die due to the flood of white blood cells in your circulatory system.

They can turn your immune system completely off, or on.

The PB1F2 gene and the CCR5-delta 32 gene also have a lot to do with that:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071010120543.htm

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24293754-5007185,00.html


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Re: Merck not sure why trial AIDS vaccine GAVE PEOPLE AIDS!!! (Nov 2007)
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Evidence is accumulating that AIDS vaccines based on the HIV glycoprotein not only undermine the immune system of individuals but are also likely to create deadly viruses and bacteria that can spread through entire populations [11].


This article addresses multiple facets of the vaccine scam...
edited to focus on MF-59 which contains Squalene and gp120, a glycoprotein


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Now for the shocker—the glycoprotein-gp120, a major component of MF-59 vaccine adjuvant, is the same protein fragment isolated from the HIV virus that is responsible for the rapid dementia seen in AIDS patients.

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

http://www.newsmax.com/health/vaccine_swine_flu/2009/07/07/232717.html
Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:54 AM
By: Dr. Russell Blaylock
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Despite these two deadly events, WHO maintains an agreement with Baxter Pharmaceuticals to produce the world’s pandemic vaccine.

Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.

Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains two main ingredients of concern—squalene and gp120. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.

The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions.

I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found—to no surprise—that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in “prestigious” medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig’s disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart’s inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease).

The second ingredient, and one that greatly concerns me, is called gp120, a glycoprotein. Researchers found when it was mixed with squalene, the glycoprotein became strongly antigenic—that is, it produced a powerful and prolonged immune response to the vaccination. In fact, their studies show that with each dose, the intense immune reaction lasts over a year.

Now for the shocker—the glycoprotein-gp120, a major component of MF-59 vaccine adjuvant, is the same protein fragment isolated from the HIV virus that is responsible for the rapid dementia seen in AIDS patients.

Studies have shown that when gp120 is taken up by the microglia cells in the brain, it causes intense inflammation and makes the brain subject to excitotoxic damage—a process called immunoexcitotoxicity. This is also the cause of the MS and optic neuritis associated with vaccines that contain MF-59.

So, how would the gp120 get into the brain? Studies of other immune adjuvants using careful tracer techniques have shown that they routinely enter the brain following vaccination. What most people do not know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most such studies by pharmaceutical companies observe the patients for only one to two weeks following vaccination—these types of reactions may take months or even years to manifest.
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There are much safer ways to protect oneself from this flu virus, such as higher doses of vitamin D3, selective immune enhancement using supplements, and a good diet.

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