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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D992F2QO0&show_article=1


House Democrats win key test vote on climate bill



Jun 26 12:03 PM US/Eastern
By H. JOSEF HEBERT and DINA CAPPIELLO
Associated Press Writers
 
WASHINGTON (AP) - House Democrats narrowly won a key test vote Friday on sweeping legislation to combat global warming and usher in a new era of cleaner energy. Republicans said the bill included "the largest tax increase in American history."
The vote was 217-205 to advance the White House-backed legislation to the floor, and 30 Democrats defected, a reflection of the controversy the bill sparked.


The legislation would impose limits for the first time on carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas pollution from power plants, factories and refineries. It also would force a shift from coal and other fossil fuels to renewable and more efficient forms of energy. Supporters and opponents agreed the result would be higher energy costs, but disagreed widely on the impact on consumers.

President Barack Obama has made the measure a top priority of his first year in office. The president, along with White House aides and House Democratic leaders, scrambled for the votes to assure passage. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has pledged to get the legislation passed before lawmakers leave on their July 4 vacation.

The Senate has yet to act on the measure, and a major struggle is expected.

In the House, the bill's fate depended on the decisions of a few dozen fence-sitting Democrats, mainly conservatives and moderates from contested districts who feared the political ramifications of siding with the White House and their leadership on the measure.

Democrats left little or nothing to chance. Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif., confirmed by the Senate on Thursday to an administration post, put off her resignation from Congress until after the final vote on the climate change bill.

"The bill contains provisions to protect consumers, keep costs low, help sensitive industries transition to a clean energy economy and promote domestic emission reduction efforts," the White House in a statement of support for the legislation.

Republicans saw it differently.

This "amounts to the largest tax increase in American history under the guise of climate change," said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.

While the bill would impose a "cap-and-trade" system that would force higher energy costs, Republicans for weeks have branded it an energy tax on every American.

But Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., said there was a "moral imperative to be good stewards of the earth."

The legislation, totaling about 1,200 pages, would require the U.S. to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions by 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020 and about 80 percent by the next century.

U.S. carbon dioxide emissions from the burning of fossil fuels are rising at about 1 percent a year and are predicted to continue increasing without mandatory caps.

Under the bill, the government would limit heat-trapping pollution from factories, refineries and power plants. It would distribute pollution allowances that could be bought and sold, depending on whether a facility exceeds the cap or makes greater pollution cuts than are required.

Obama on Thursday called it "a vote of historic proportions ... that will open the door to a clean energy economy" and green jobs. "It will create millions of new jobs," Pelosi insisted.

Both Obama and Pelosi preferred to focus on the economic issues rather than on what environmentalists view as the urgency of reducing carbon emissions blamed for global warming.

The Rust Belt coal-state Democrats who have been sitting on the fence worry about how to explain their vote for higher energy prices to people back home—and how the vote might play out in elections next year.

Republicans have been quick to exploit those concerns.

"Democratic leaders are poised to march many moderate Democrats over a cliff ... by forcing them to vote for a national energy tax that is unpopular throughout the heartland," Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said.

There was widespread agreement that under this cap-and-trade system, the cost of energy would almost certainly increase. But Democrats argued that much of the impact on taxpayers would be offset by other provisions in the bill. Low-income consumers would qualify for credits and rebates to cushion the impact on their energy bills.

Two reports issued this week—one from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office and the other from the Environmental Protection Agency—seemed to support that argument.

The CBO analysis estimated that the bill would cost an average household $175 a year; the EPA put it at between $80 and $110 a year.

Republicans questioned the validity of the CBO study and noted that even that analysis showed actual energy production costs increasing $770 per household. Industry groups have cited other studies showing much higher cost to the economy and to individuals.
 

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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 11:18:57 am »
Oh boy, Alex wil go apeshit when he finds this out...

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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2009, 11:27:45 am »
This sucks so bad. they even say in there that most people don't want this. It is sick to think they conned people into buying this global warming bull and then do this. I think this will be just the start of the hell that is comming.  You should watch sat. cartoons, the level of brainwashing is just amazing.
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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2009, 11:34:02 am »
Even though its the same article, yahoo has now picked up on it also, so it is official now.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090626/ap_on_go_co/us_climate_bill

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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2009, 11:37:27 am »
how much is a fart going to cost me? $10?

F*** that.  Carbon DOES NOT heat the earth.  The big glowing fireball in the sky a.k.a. the Sun does that.




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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 11:45:36 am »
This is completely INSANE. Complete tyranny in the closing stages. Lock and load.

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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2009, 11:47:43 am »
FFS!  We know they are going to pass this stuff because everyone is co-opted but a handful that would vote against it.
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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2009, 11:58:12 am »
Keep your heads on straight boys and girls.  This shit is like trauma based mind control. They whack us in the head with a baseball bat with these unconstitutional edicts of tyranny and then whisper through the MSM how to respond.  Stay focused on the fact that the bill was written by banksters to create a new derivatives ponzi scheme.  The bill creates a fake industry called the carbon derivatives industry.   And we all love derivatives swapping don't we?
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2009, 12:01:45 pm »
Keep your heads on straight boys and girls.  This shit is like trauma based mind control. They whack us in the head with a baseball bat with these unconstitutional edicts of tyranny and then whisper through the MSM how to respond.  Stay focused on the fact that the bill was written by banksters to create a new derivatives ponzi scheme.  The bill creates a fake industry called the carbon derivatives industry.   And we all love derivatives swapping don't we?

Not just that, it lays the groundwork for how to tax the american people into eternal slavery!

This is ridiculous evil!

I saw your post earlier about that Rep that claimed he had not only read the 1500 page monster but written "Most of it" as well!

When you have ppl like that as elected officials, and you have people like Blago going free and Roland Burriss getting all charges dropped against him, you know there is no real justice system in America anymore.

Only a complete overhaul of the entire form of American govt will save this country, and the only way thats going to happen is through massive protest.

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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2009, 12:02:31 pm »
Obama says this biill will create MILLIONS of jobs! ROFL LMFAO!!!!! These people are ruthless.

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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2009, 01:14:16 pm »
Yup. They'll employ people to plug up the hundreds of volcanoes around the planet, the leading natural emitter of CO2.

I'll bet they want Mt. Redoubt to go S.t Helens right about now and further f up things.

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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2009, 01:49:21 pm »
I know I turned off the TV I cant stand watching these traitors speak and lie like who havn't even read the entire bill. Its a scam God I hate these criminals Vote them all out who pass's this bullsh1t
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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2009, 01:51:04 pm »
Dear Friend of Liberty,

Legislative sources on the Hill have informed me that a vote on "Cap-and-Trade" (Cap-and-Tax) is likely to come around 5 pm eastern today.

Once again, most legislators have no idea what is in the 1,201 page bill about to be put up for final vote.

Passing Cap-and-Trade is a very high priority for the Obama administration, but a procedural vote earlier this morning only produced a 217-205 favorable result.  This very tight margin proves your calls and emails are having an impact.

Now is the time to turn up the pressure.  Call the Capitol Hill Switchboard at (202) 224-3121 immediately and urge your representative to vote against this latest tax scheme.  (American families could end up paying several thousand dollars a year in higher energy bills as a result of HR 2454.)

Make sure your representative hears from you!  For email and fax information, visit our HR 2454 action page here.
http://echo4.bluehornet.com/ct/4897276:5783904122:m:1:399432627:9553105EC7B8E7224A8DC0C3BD9C7903


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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2009, 02:10:56 pm »
its only a test vote keep melting the lines this can not pass!!!
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2009, 03:16:42 pm »
Does anyone have a link to where one can read the bill?

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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2009, 03:22:20 pm »
Oh boy, Alex wil go apeshit when he finds this out...

He'll probably pop in to Bermas' show tonight.

I kind of hope he doesn't because he'll end up burning himself out again and have to take another few days off to recover.
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Re: News on Congress vote. CARBON TAX. The TEST vote passed. F***!
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2009, 03:52:27 pm »
WOW!!! GLOBAL WARMING??? LOL ARE THESE PEOPLE F**KING STUPID? o wait they are

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Further details on the Carbon Derivatives Bubble Bill can be found here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=408.0
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Interestingly enough - we are currently going through a global COOLING PHASE as the Arctic icecaps Al Gore , David Rothschild , Prince Philip and the World Wildlife Fund insist are melting, are actually now RE-Glaciating and expanding.
"Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate … It will purge the rottenness out of the system..." - Andrew Mellon, Secretary of Treasury, 1929.

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im starting to think they purposely plan their schedule around alex's days off, just wondering because the past few false flag ops and weird occurrences have magically happened when alex is off or on vacation, or am i just being a little too paranoid? thats how it looks to me, alex might have more pull in this game than he actually realizes.

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So its safe to say that America is not land of the free home of the brave? Obama has already turned into the worst president of all time,and it only took him a couple of months!
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So its safe to say that America is not land of the free home of the brave? Obama has already turned into the worst president of all time,and it only took him a couple of months!
It's safe to say America no longer has an American Government. Thus far, i would actually say Andrew Johnson as he essentially repealed everything Lincoln had accomplished in regards to fighting the British backed confederacy and bankers off,  was probably the worst President in U.S. history prior to being impeached..... but Obama is steadily pacing him along with George W. Bush.

Hard to say.... Nixon (Rockefeller puppet)  and Carter (Tri-Lateral Puppet) are up there as well...... and Woodrow Wilson (Reviver of the Klu Klux Klan)

God, we've had alot of bad President's haven't we?.
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"it could lead to sweeping changes in many sectors of the
American economy, including electric power generation,
agriculture, manufacturing and construction."


Together with the fed res bill, there goes control to the gov of the
American economy, including electric power generation,
agriculture, manufacturing and construction.
This is grim.

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This is the stupidest shit yet!  What's next, Senate passes, soetoro signs, and we start swiping our carbon credits cards?  Or is this the first step, the supply side implementation?

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they KNOW it's gonna be a carbon derivatives bubble creator - this is like the freakiest thing I've ever witnessed.

we is f**ked; thanks Ptech for writing such an insane bill.

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It's safe to say America no longer has an American Government. Thus far, i would actually say Andrew Johnson as he essentially repealed everything Lincoln had accomplished in regards to fighting the British backed confederacy and bankers off,  was probably the worst President in U.S. history prior to being impeached..... but Obama is steadily pacing him along with George W. Bush.

Hard to say.... Nixon (Rockefeller puppet)  and Carter (Tri-Lateral Puppet) are up there as well...... and Woodrow Wilson (Reviver of the Klu Klux Klan)

God, we've had alot of bad President's haven't we?.

150 years of looting, killing, invading, reconstructing, and now THIS. Cap & Trade. New England and the District of Columbia Criminals has it's tyranny cut out for them.

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This one is a hell of a pisser I will tell you that, and it is overly obvious that this derivatives bubble is the key.

Even environmentalists are agaainst this bill.

Please post the final version whenever it becomes available.

I am reading the other versions, completely written by bankers.

Notice how scared to death they are to publish the bills before they are signed.

People are waking up to the fact that they are turning congress into a secret board room that takes orders from an overseas stockholder who wants to pump and dump the stock.
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This one is a hell of a pisser I will tell you that, and it is overly obvious that this derivatives bubble is the key.

Even environmentalists are agaainst this bill.

Please post the final version whenever it becomes available.

I am reading the other versions, completely written by bankers.

Notice how scared to death they are to publish the bills before they are signed.

People are waking up to the fact that they are turning congress into a secret board room that takes orders from an overseas stockholder who wants to pump and dump the stock.

And who then has his parrots in the corporate whore "news" media scapegoat poor minorities for the resultant effect that this banker-engineered scam has on the economy.  ::)
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 I guess the good thing about the derivative bubble plan is we have a little more time to prepare. :P Not much consolation but trying to find the bright side of this hole...

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More on Derivatives - Background of who involved and more:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=5322
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!


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Gunnery Sergeant Hartman to the U.S. House after the passage of HR 2454:

"Were you born fat, slimy, scumbag puke pieces o' shit, Congressmen,
or did you have to 'work' on it!?"


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here's Obama from November 2008 - why wasn't this ALL OVER mainstream media?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqg7ThZB04

the cold, dead eyes.

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I was thinking how I should seriously prepare for the end of the world today.  I get off work in the morning, so I woke up too late for the protest of the bill's passage @ the Johnson County Courthouse here in Kansas.  It's heartening to see that some of the people in Kansas are actually in Kansas.

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China to count Abortions as Carbon off-set Credits.

EU and UN Approve/  Applaud cap and trade


China says one-child policy helps protect climate

VIENNA (Reuters) - China says its one-child policy has helped the fight against global warming by avoiding 300 million births, the equivalent of the population of the United States.

Some scientists say that birth control measures far less draconian than China’s are wrongly overlooked in the fight against climate change,

“Population is clearly an important factor,” said Yvo de Boer, head of the U.N. Climate Change Secretariat, at U.N. talks trying to plan a new deal to combat climate change after 2012.

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***CAP & TRADE CAN STILL BE DEFEATED IN THE HOUSE!!!!***
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2009, 05:09:26 pm »
If they can bring back the "Banker Bail-Out" bill to the floor a second time after it was defeated with threats of martial law... then votes can be changed under the rules... or the bill can be brought back because of an outcry of popular disdain by the people by the same token... Under the House rules, there was a "motion to reconsider" that was passed at the end of the vote, this gives us until July 2nd to get the Reps to change their minds.

http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-tr8tors-can-change-vote-by-july-2-deadline/

Posting here is not enough. We all must call and fax and send emails...

Let's get at it!

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Re: ***CAP & TRADE CAN STILL BE DEFEATED IN THE HOUSE!!!!***
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2009, 05:12:35 pm »
All of Congress (Senate & House) fax numbers:  http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
The eight Republicans who voted for cap and trade in the House were: (Gee thx guys for being ignorant and helping to destroy this Country)

Bono Mack (CA) 202-225-5330 (A green suck up)
http://bono.house.gov/

Castle (DE) 202-225-4165 (How can he be for Small Busi & Vote for this Bill?)
http://www.castle.house.gov/News/DocumentS...cumentID=132206

Kirk (IL) 202-225-4835 (Wonder how he got the add'l 300 pgs not available to Congressmen?)  :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fEIz1ukNa4

Lance (NJ) 202-225-5361 (Says he voted for Energy Independence. He really voted for SLAVERY and a government controlling every facet of our lives. HOW FOOLISH!)
http://lance.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid...7,29&itemid=178

Lobiondo (NJ) 202-225-6572 (Also thinks he voted for Energy Independence. Another FOOL!)
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/nj02_...do/062609a.html

McHugh (NY) 202-225-4611 (Claims to be for Rural America, but he just destroyed it with this vote)
http://mchugh.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=3326

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Re: ***CAP & TRADE CAN STILL BE DEFEATED IN THE HOUSE!!!!***
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2009, 05:14:04 pm »
sorry, here's all 8

Bono Mack (CA) 202-225-5330 (A green suck up)
http://bono.house.gov/

Castle (DE) 202-225-4165 (How can he be for Small Busi & Vote for this Bill?)
http://www.castle.house.gov/News/DocumentS...cumentID=132206

Kirk (IL) 202-225-4835 (Wonder how he got the add'l 300 pgs not available to Congressmen?)  :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fEIz1ukNa4

Lance (NJ) 202-225-5361 (Says he voted for Energy Independence. He really voted for SLAVERY and a government controlling every facet of our lives. HOW FOOLISH!)
http://lance.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid...7,29&itemid=178

Lobiondo (NJ) 202-225-6572 (Also thinks he voted for Energy Independence. Another FOOL!)
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/nj02_...do/062609a.html

McHugh (NY) 202-225-4611 (Claims to be for Rural America, but he just destroyed it with this vote)
http://mchugh.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=3326

Reichart (WA) 202-225-7761 (He's a former cop bought by FEMA)
http://reichert.house.gov/News/DocumentSin...ocumentID=84624

Chris Smith (NJ) 202-225-3765 (He teamed up with Ed Markey, so we know why he voted for this bill.)
http://chrissmith.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=3744

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Re: ***CAP & TRADE CAN STILL BE DEFEATED IN THE HOUSE!!!!***
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2009, 05:17:16 pm »
Contact your congressman if s/he is a dem who voted yes, like mine (McNerny).

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Re: ***CAP & TRADE CAN STILL BE DEFEATED IN THE HOUSE!!!!***
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2009, 05:44:09 pm »
call all these Fcks and TEll them to change their vote or they will be fired and their families will be on the street along with the rest of america. Make it clear we will make sure to ruin their careers because it is criminal!!!!
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