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US Marines land in Pakistan: 'anti-narcotics' exercise in Balochistan Province
BRASSTACKS <http://www.brasstacks.biz/>

An Islamabad-based security monitoring center, and I quote:
"The US Marine Corps has reportedly been allowed [by the Pakistani government]
to land around Makran coast in Pakistan's Balochistan province.
 
The pretext is that the marines are conducting some anti-narcotics exercise in
Afghanistan and the supposed landing in Pakistan's Balochistan is part of that exercise.  
The timing is not only dangerous but could pose a srious threat to Pakistani national
security because the rulers in Islamabad have allowed the US Marine landing
at a time when the US has stationed a large number of troops in the Afghan
province of Helmand bordering the Balochistan province of Pakistan."

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Balochistan minister shot dead in Karachi
By Tahir Siddiqui
Friday, 07 Aug, 2009 | 05:00 AM PST |
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/11-balochistan-excise-and-taxation-minister-rustam-jamali-gunned-down--il--07

KARACHI: Sardar Rustam Khan Jamali, Balochistan’s Minister for Excise and Taxation, was gunned down here on Thursday.

The Sharea Faisal police said that Sardar Jamali’s car was intercepted in Block 16 of Gulistan-i-Jauhar by four to five gunmen who sprayed it with bullets.

The minister suffered serious injuries. He was taken to a private hospital where he was pronounced dead.

His body was shifted to the Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre and sources said that he had been hit by three bullets in the jaw and neck.

City police chief Wasim Ahmed told Dawn that the attack on Mr Jamali appeared to be a carjacking attempt. ‘It’s not a case of target killing,’ he added. Mr Jamali had arrived in Karachi two days ago.

President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani condemned Mr Jamali’s murder and offered condolences to his family.

Sindh Chief Minister Syed Qaim Ali Shah has directed the inspector general of police and the Karachi police chief to investigate the incident and bring the killers to book.

Saleem Shahid adds from Quetta: Rustam Jamali will be buried in Rojhan Jamali on Friday. The body will be flown to Jacobabad from where it will be taken to Rojhan Jamali.

Mr Jamali was the eldest son of Sardar Yar Mohammad Jamali, the chief of Jamali tribe.

He was closely related to former prime minister Zafarullah Khan Jamali, Senate’s Deputy Chairman Jan Mohammad Jamali and former Balochistan chief minister Taj Mohammad Jamali.

He was born in the village of Bakhra near Usta Mohammad. After acquiring initial education in his village, he went to Aitchison College, Lahore. He did his graduation from the Balochistan University.

Mr Jamali was elected to the Balochistan assembly as an independent candidate from his home constituency of Usta Mohammad.

After receiving information about his murder, all business centres and markets were closed in Dera Allah Yar, Dera Murad Jamali, Usta Mohammad, Rojhan Jamali and several other towns of the province.
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Re: Obama sends marines to invade 3rd sovereign country-Pakistan
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2009, 06:09:53 am »
Pakistan Fears US Afghan Offensive Will Spill Into Balochistan
US Dismisses Concerns, Says Attack Was 'Necessary'
by Jason Ditz, July 22, 2009
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/07/22/pakistan-fears-us-offensive-will-spill-into-balochistan/

Early this month, thousands of US Marines launched what is being called the largest single ground operation in Afghanistan since the Soviet occupation of the mid-1980’s in the Helmand River Valley. The southern region is teeming with Taliban and suspicious villagers.

The US has promised to occupy the region over the long-term to prevent the Taliban from returning, though by and large the residents welcomed the Taliban when they chased out the crooked Afghan national police. So far the operation’s most noteworthy effect was destroying enormous numbers of poppy seeds grown by local farmers. Pakistan is concerned that it might become their problem too, however.

Pakistani officials are reportedly expressing concern to US envoy Richard Holbrooke that the offensive might spill across the border, into the Pakistani province of Balochistan, which already has a growing secessionist movement. Assuming the US offensive drives the Taliban out of the area, they’re either going into Herat or south into Balochistan.

But the US has dismissed those concerns, insisting that the offensive in Helmand was “necessary.” Admiral Mullen told the Senate he was “comfortable” that the military had planned sufficiently for the potential unrest the latest offensive would cause Pakistan.

Nearly eight years after the US invasion of Afghanistan, many of the forces loyal to the former Taliban government continue to sew unrest in neighboring Pakistan, as well as in Afghanistan itself.
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Re: Obama sends marines to invade 3rd sovereign country-Pakistan
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2009, 06:13:50 am »
Daily Times - Site Edition Thursday, July 23, 2009
Pakistan raises concern over US Afghan offensive

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/print.asp?page=2009\07\23\story_23-7-2009_pg1_12

LAHORE/ISLAMABAD: The government raised concerns with visiting US regional envoy Richard Holbrooke on Wednesday over the US-led offensive in Afghanistan.

Islamabad is concerned the US offensive in Afghanistan’s Helmand province, ahead of elections there next month, could push Taliban fighters across the border into Pakistan. “We have some concerns, which we have been discussing with the US,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Abdul Basit said, according to the AP news agency. A senior Pakistani intelligence official said Islamabad has “reservations” about the Helmand offensive because Taliban crossing the border could destabilise Balochistan. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said authorities had conveyed their concerns to the “appropriate quarters”.

Controlled shift: The army has already beefed up its presence along the border in the area, and the official said authorities had not yet seen an influx into Balochistan of Taliban from Helmand province, where some 4,000 US Marines launched an operation on July 2 against the Taliban. If a significant influx does occur, however, Pakistan might be forced to move troops over to the northwest from its border from India. But the official stressed that Islamabad cannot make that shift “beyond a certain point”. The Pakistani establishment still views India as its greatest threat.

Holbrooke said the US was committed to coordinating with the Pakistani government to combat the Taliban. “We want to be sure that we share with your government and your military, military plans so you can be prepared and coordinate because a lot of different things can happen here,” he said. “The Taliban could move east into Balochistan and cause additional problems, they could move west towards Herat, they could be trapped, and we have to be prepared,” he added.

Last week, senior analysts and officials of the Inter-Services Intelligence, speaking on condition of anonymity, gave a briefing to the New York Times in which they claimed the surge in Afghanistan would result in more civilian casualties and further alienate the local population. However, a spokesman for the American and NATO commands in Afghanistan, Rear Admiral Gregory J Smith, told the US daily there was no significant movement of insurgents out of Afghanistan.

During the briefing, Pakistani and American officials also cited some positive signs for the alliance. Increased sharing of information has sharpened the accuracy of strikes against Taliban hideouts by Pakistani F-16 warplanes and drones operated by the Central Intelligence Agency. But the briefing clearly illuminated the differences between the two countries over how, in the US view, Pakistan was still picking proxies and choosing enemies among various militant groups in Pakistan.

Not here: The US maintains that Afghan Taliban leader Muhammad Omar leads an inner circle of commanders who guide the war in southern Afghanistan from their base in Quetta. Pakistani intelligence officials have denied that Mullah Omar was even in Pakistan, insisting that he was in Afghanistan. Similarly, the US has asked Pakistan in recent years to round up 10 Taliban leaders in Quetta, the Pakistani officials said. Of those 10, six were killed by Pakistan, two were probably in Afghanistan, and the remaining two presented no threat to the Marines in Afghanistan, the officials said. daily times monitor/ap
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Re: Obama sends marines to invade 3rd sovereign country-Pakistan
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2009, 06:16:23 am »
US to deploy 1,000 marine commandoes at Islamabad’s American Embassy
August 6, 2009
http://pakistankakhudahafiz.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/us-to-deploy-1000-marine-commandoes-at-islamabads-american-embassy/

US Marine commandoes numbering 1,000 will be deployed at American Embassy in Islamabad under massive expansion work which is nearing completion.

Pakistan’s Foreign Office Spokesman Abdul Basit Khan has said that 1,000 US Marines will be coming to Pakistan to be deployed at US Mission.

He said that there was no restriction on the number of personnel that a foreign mission could station at its mission but it is done through mutual understanding.

The FO Spokesman stated on Wednesday while replying to a query relating to increase in the strength of the US personnel at Islamabad’s mission, The Nation reported.

A former Pakistan diplomat had objected to the US plans to have a bigger presence in Pakistan in the pursuit of its strategic interests in the region.

Former Foreign Secretary Shamshad Ahmed Khan said that it is evident that America wants to remote control the region from Islamabad.

According to an estimate, Washington is planning to spend a whopping one billion dollars for revamping its main embassy building in Islamabad and increase the strength of its staff.

The Obama Administration is about to spend 405 million dollars for the reconstruction and refurbishment of the main embassy building and 111 million dollars for constructing a new complex for 330 personnel.

A further 197 million dollars would be spent for construction of a housing unit for about 250 personnel.

Not only this, the United States is also planning to give its consular buildings in Lahore and Peshawar a new look.

Experts believe that this is a clear cut strategy of the US to augment its presence and establish control over the region. (...and occupy another sovereign nation).
And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

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Re: Obama sends marines to invade 3rd sovereign country-Pakistan
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 06:18:11 am »
Obama did say during his presidential campaign that he "would possibly send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists" and this seems to be at least one promise he intends to keep.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20070536/

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Re: Obama sends marines to invade 3rd sovereign country-Pakistan
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 06:24:39 am »
Obama did say during his presidential campaign that he "would possibly send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists" and this seems to be at least one promise he intends to keep.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20070536/

Out of all of them, this is the one he keeps (W T F ?)
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Re: Obama sends marines to invade 3rd sovereign country-Pakistan
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ALERT: Senior Pakistani Politician In Govt. Caught On Tape Endorsing The Breakup Of Balochistan!
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/alert-a-pakistani-government-official-caught-telling-brahamdagh-bugti-declare-balochistan-independence-while-you-still-have-a-chance/

This hard evidence adds to the existing circumstantial evidence that some foreign governments have successfully cultivated high-level moles in Islamabad.

By AHMED QURAISHI

Wednesday, 5 August 2009.

WWW.AHMEDQURAISHI.COM

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—Pakistan’s Balochistan province is under attack.  Pakistanis should be in no doubt now and must begin to question their government.  And question it hard.

This is the latest:

- A stunning telephone conversation between a Pakistani official and Indian-backed terrorists in Balochistan;
- Permission for US Marines to land on Pakistan’s southwestern coastal area in a mock invasion;
- And a consortium of three western companies want to circumvent Gwadar and get government’s approval for a mini-seaport instead.

These are three startling developments that point not just to criminal negligence on the part of the elected federal Pakistani government but to collusion at some high level within the Pakistani government.  We know that a few who claim to represent Pakistani Balochis are completely sold out to the agenda of two or three countries in the region.  What is new is connivance in Islamabad.  If something is going to happen to Pakistan’s Balochistan, it will not be possible without inside help.

Alarmingly, this follows the credible information that a group of foreign-backed terrorists who claim to represent Pakistani Baloch are planning in coordination with at least two foreign governments to declare the ‘independence’ of Pakistan’s Balochistan province three days before Pakistan’s Independence Day celebrations on 14 August.  The move, if happens, won’t change anything on the ground but would a score a point for the anti-Pakistan forces gathered on Afghan soil.

Let’s get into the details of the latest alert:

1. US MARINES IN BALOCHSITAN:  According to an alert today by BRASSTACKS, an Islamabad-based security monitoring center, and I quote: “The US Marine Corps has reportedly been allowed [by the Pakistani government] to land around Makran coast in Pakistan’s Balochistan province.  The pretext is that the marines are conducting some anti-narcotics exercise in Afghanistan and the supposed landing in Pakistan’s Balochistan is part of that exercise.  The timing is not only dangerous but could pose a srious threat to Pakistani national security because the rulers in Islamabad have allowed the US Marine landing at a time when the US has stationed a large number of troops in the Afghan province of Helmand bordering the Balochistan province of Pakistan.”

2. A MOLE IN ISLAMABAD: A senior member of the elected federal government in Islamabad urged Brahamdagh Bugti in a telephone conversation recently to expedite the declaration of independence “while you have the chance.”  The said official is a senior member of the government.  If this tape were to be released publicly, the said official could face treason charges.  The irony is that the said official often makes strong statements about defending Pakistan’s national integrity and strategic interests against the anti-Pakistan forces gathered on the Afghan soil.

3. A WESTERN COMMERTIAL SEAPORT: The third interesting activity in Balochistan has to do with the three western companies.  One of them is the Tethyan Copper of Australia in collaboration with Canadian mining firm and another from Chile, (all have joint ownership of the copper-gold deposit at Reko Diq in Balochistan.  According to BRASSTACKS, the three companies want to build an exclusive small port (commercial jetty) near Gwadar port some 30 miles towards Karachi. One or more of them also have Israeli links of some sort, most probably in terms of equity, which is in itself should make this the concern of national security experts in Pakistan because of the growing Israeli covert role in the region, which is not documented by the western media but is well known to Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and other countries in the region.

The location of the resource-rich Reko Diq in Pakistan’s southwestern Balochistan province

According to the BRASSTACKS alert, this project for “an exclusive small port-like facility indeed should be looked upon with high suspicion.  The main question here is:  Why the small port in the presence of a new modern port like Gwadar in close proximity?  Who will be using this new port facility apart from these companies?  What will be the security plan for this jetty and who will be looking after the security?  Foreigners from native countries of the three companies will freely use this new mini-seaport.”

This situation will represent a grave security breach from Pakistan’s standpoint, particularly in an area like Balochistan that already is the focus of third-country-sponsored terrorism emanating from Afghanistan.

To quote the BRASSTACKS alert:

“To understand the entire situation and the security concerns for Pakistan linked with demand of these foreign companies, the background of all these companies is a must to looked into.  Reko Diq is a small town in Chagai District, Baluchistan having the world´s largest Gold and Copper reserves.  According to reports US $ 65 Billion natural deposit have been sold for US $ 21 Billion to Tethyan Copper of Australia which has taken the contract to develop this mine while Barrick Gold Corporation of Canada (a Jewish company) and Antofagasta of Chile have a joint-ownership of the copper-gold deposit at Reko Diq.  The Reko Diq deposit is being explored by Tethyan Copper Company Pty Ltd (75%) and the (BDA) Balochistan Development Authority (25%).  Tethyan Copper Company is held jointly (50:50) by Barrick Gold Corporation and Antofagasta Minerals.  So far, three foreign companies have purchased stakes in the strategic copper and gold assets setting off a cycle of `change of foreign ownership´ of Reko Diq copper project. Pakistan has only 25 per cent stake in the Reko Diq copper project.  The rest of the 75 per cent stakes had first been transferred to BHP Billiton, the Anglo-Australian mining giant and then BHP Billiton under a `deed of waiver and consent´ transferred it to the Australian TCC and now TCC has sold its 19.95 per cent stake to Antofagasta Minerals.”

Pakistan’s strategic southwestern province of Balochistan is facing a real, focused threat.  The federal Pakistani government, controlled by individuals with strong links to Washington, are showing criminal negligence in this regard.  The government has so far failed to put Britain on the spot for providing sanctuary for terrorists committing arson and terrorism inside Balochistan and openly calling for the breakup of the Pakistani state.

To provide media cover and legitimacy to these terrorists, strong lobbies in Washington and New Delhi are trying to use the media to revive the debate on how Pakistan became independent from Britain and how Balochistan ‘acceded’ to the new nation.

We do not have much trust in the capability of the Pakistani government to rise to the occasion.  But to the national security practitioners and experts and the managers of the state foreign policy and public diplomacy, it is important that Pakistan not be drawn into this debate.

Pakistan is a reality.  We cannot and will not revisit events going back half a century or more in time just because this happens to suit the strategic interests of the United States, NATO, or India.

Islamabad needs to question why the governments of Britain, India and the United States are supporting terrorism in Pakistan through indirect support to terrorists claiming unilateral representation of a large segment of the Pakistani nation.

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Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

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White House has dual strategy to defeat terrorism

White House adviser maps out dual strategy to fight terror, using military and economic aid


LOLITA C. BALDOR
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http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/08/06/white-house-has-dual-strategy-to-defeat-terrorism-2/

Aug 06, 2009 14:43 EST

The Obama administration has mapped out a dual approach to defeating terrorism, fusing military strikes against insurgents with a commitment to pump economic development, political aid and training into countries that are considered safe havens for militant groups.

John Brennan, a top White House adviser, said Thursday that the U.S. must harness its economic power to help nations increase their security and dissuade their citizens from turning to violence. He cited Somalia as an example.

"The most effective long-term strategy for safeguarding the American people is one that promotes a future where a young man or woman never even considers joining an extremist group in the first place; where they reject out of hand the idea of picking up that gun or strapping on that suicide vest," said Brennan, President Barack Obama's assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism.

Brennan's speech covered familiar ground, echoing calls by other senior leaders, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates, for the U.S. government to use more "soft power" to defeat terrorism. Since November 2007, Gates has been arguing that the military alone cannot solve the problem.

But Brennan's remarks Thursday put greater detail and emphasis on a program that focuses on the near-term challenge of fighting al-Qaida, and the longer-term effort to counter violent extremism.

Speaking at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Brennan offered no details on how much the cash-strapped administration will be willing to pour into known terror havens, which range from war-wracked Afghanistan to poverty-stricken Somalia and Yemen. Those nations have pleaded for millions more dollars in financial aid, along with funds for trucks, helicopters, and other equipment.

His comments underscored assertions — by Obama and other Cabinet members — that winning the war of words is a key element to defeating terrorism. Early on, Obama dropped the use of the oft-heard Bush administration catch phrase "global war on terror," saying that the U.S, must be careful not to suggest that it is at war with Muslims. And in June Obama delivered a much-anticipated speech in Cairo, reaching out to the Muslim world.

On Thursday, Brennan also argued that the term "global war" could imply that the U.S. is at war with the rest of the world, and it reinforces the idea that al-Qaida is more powerful and far-reaching than it is.

Outlining five key elements of the new approach, Brennan said the U.S. will meld its fight against terrorists into a broader engagement with countries around the world, not just those gripped by extremists.

In addition to efforts to speak more carefully about terrorism, he said there will be a greater understanding that while poverty does not cause violence, people who have no hope for a job are often more susceptible to extremist ideologies.

Also, Brennan said the U.S. must help other countries bolster their security and governance in order to meet the needs of their people. And finally the White House will use all elements of American power to meet those goals, he said.

Pointing to Somalia, which has become a growing base for al-Qaida terrorists compounded by tribal warfare and piracy, Brennan said the U.S. needs a more comprehensive policy for the Horn of Africa.

Already, he said, U.S. officials are sharing intelligence with nations in East Africa and the Trans-Sahel region (on the southern fringe of the Sahara) and building their security forces.

But there also must be a broader strategy to give Somalis an alternative to joining al-Shabab, which has ties to al-Qaida, he said.

In other comments, Brennan said the administration is "doing everything possible" to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility by next January, as promised by Obama.

He stopped short of saying the White House will meet that goal, adding that Congress "can either help or hinder our efforts."

Congress has blocked all funding for the transfer of any Guantanamo detainees into the United States for the 2009 fiscal year ending Sept. 30. There has been no agreement yet on funding in the 2010 fiscal year budget.

Congress also passed a law in June that would allow Guantanamo detainees to be transferred to the U.S. for prosecution only after lawmakers have had two months to read a White House report on how it plans to shut the facility and disperse the inmates.

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For the past 17 years now we have had chickenhawks committing genocide and using brave American soldiers as pawns in international grand chessgames.  They never fought, yet they are so eager to have American soldiers die and kill millions under our flag.

WHERE IS THE "LIBERAL" MEDIA OUTRAGE?

WHERE IS CODE PINK?

WHAT THE F IS GOING ON?
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WHERE IS THE "LIBERAL" MEDIA OUTRAGE?
WHERE IS CODE PINK?
WHAT THE F IS GOING ON?

Sickeningly hilarious isn't it? Their hypocracy is funny -- the wars are a tragedy.

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Sickeningly hilarious isn't it? Their hypocracy is funny -- the wars are a tragedy.

Tom Lehrer - Send the marines

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Anti Narcotics operations HA HA!  Good cover little war on drugs little war on terror ohh la la!

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For the past 17 years now we have had chickenhawks committing genocide and using brave American soldiers as pawns in international grand chessgames.  They never fought, yet they are so eager to have American soldiers die and kill millions under our flag.

WHERE IS THE "LIBERAL" MEDIA OUTRAGE?

WHERE IS CODE PINK?

WHAT THE F IS GOING ON?

Hi Sane.

Yes, WTF is going on. Their control is strengthing their actions,they are setting the stage and sending in American sons to kill and be in harms way.
I do not recieve MSM daily papers where I live, but I'm of the beleif these moves the Gov is making are not making front page. If they do its marginal and the SM's have accepted it.

Vietnam taught these sociapaths what not to do. No live reporting, no cameramen on the battlegrounds, no photos of our torture,in short no visions of the hell we are instilling in the M.E., or for that matter here.
The rage is bottled up in fear,and the fact that they have cut the legs from those who resist their insaity.

One question, do the average joes in the states have any idea that over 1,300,000 were obliviated in Iraq. Infants, children, woman and fathers.
Has that ever been exposed to the public.
Didn't Bush and his crew pound into the heads of the citizens we attacked Iraq seeking WMD's, did they leave when none were found. Did the SM's question their motives?
That fact alone sickens me to the core of my being.
If we had shipped the mangled bodies back and dumped the body parts on the front lawns and streets of the SM's, that is to say the infants, children all of them, it may have raised an eyebrow. Most likely they would have complained that there streets are littered.
We react, we are shamed and indignet, mortified, enraged by the actions of these regimes, the SM's are not.
We, and people like us are the truth, they are of the illusion, they choose it over the reality and close their eyes and conscience to the genocide of past and present.
We have not been silenced, however the MSM have, and they are controlled. Journalism for the most part is being subservant and controlled. Stigma to truth, number one. A volunteer Armed forces another, 911 the key. The ace card being terrorism.
Brother do we need this exposed, and being a tad of a cynic, even if exposed- many of our lovely citizens would still contine wiggling the falg. Heck, Sane you know this and much more, the majority will not react untill they find a member of their family in peices, or dying from injections.
I witnessed upon my return from a war, a mother wiggling a flag over the coffin of her son, screaming he died for his country. Doesn't that say it all.



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I do not recieve MSM daily papers where I live, but I'm of the beleif these moves the Gov is making are not making front page. If they do its marginal and the SM's have accepted it.


This morning Pakistani mainstream news is saturated with the "Mehsud" was killed non-story... (he's been dead before, a few times...) - NOT ONE WORD about this 'boots on the ground' news in Pakistan. You have to go to blogs to find it.  Their media is as controlled as ours.

Their President (Asif Ali Zardari) is as corrupt as they come; he has sold out his own country for money. He's the guy with the swiss bank accounts full of the money looted from the Pakistani people.
He's making his final looting effort before he flees. Watch him run... any day now...


Oh... and the Pakistani's will be so glad to get rid of him, they'll let him run with all their money. Sound familiar?
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Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

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The public has a bloodthirst and turns a blind eye to the destruction,,,,perpetual war for perpetual profit...rockefeller and the old clubs mantra.

Good point. Sickenly, there are those citizens who feel as though we we will one day profit from the abomination, greed has not limits, be it the super wealthy or the working man.

I worked at a shipyard many years past. A welder was raging how much overtime he was getting becasue of the war in Nam, stating that he hopes it goes on another 10 years.
 I had just returned from Nam and was not in the FN least happy to listen to him.
I confronted him agrresively and a long story short was given my walking papers. SM's are not as silent as we may be led to beleive.
It boils down to conscience and honor.

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This morning Pakistani mainstream news is saturated with the "Mehsud" was killed non-story... (he's been dead before, a few times...) - NOT ONE WORD about this 'boots on the ground' news in Pakistan. You have to go to blogs to find it.  Their media is as controlled as ours.

Their President (Asif Ali Zardari) is as corrupt as they come; he has sold out his own country for money. He's the guy with the swiss bank accounts full of the money looted from the Pakistani people.
He's making his final looting effort before he flees. Watch him run... any day now...


Oh... and the Pakistani's will be so glad to get rid of him, they'll let him run with all their money. Sound familiar?

True, unfortunelty whoever takes his place will be of the same insanity and greed. Desposts, tyranical lunatics, sucking the blood of the peons, it is an ancient evil.

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True, unfortunelty whoever takes his place will be of the same insanity and greed. Desposts, tyranical lunatics, sucking the blood of the peons, it is an ancient evil.

So true... Zardari has taken the bribe to 'approve' NWO occupation of Pakistan, and he's planning his escape to Dubai, or London, or wherever he can go to flee the violence that will follow.

These greedy bastards run every country it seems. Or, if they don't play the game, they get assassinated, and a 'player' replaces them.  If you listen to Indira Singh's interview with Mike Corbin, you'll hear her talk about this... and she notes that this time, NOW, is our last chance to defeat the globalist criminals (the criminal families behind the "terrorist shell state governments")... it's a pretty compelling call to rise up against what's happening in the US. If we can defeat them in the US, then there's a chance the rest of the world will follow. Maybe we need to start advocating for a general strike; non-violent non-participation in the activities that fuel the NWO in the US.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=40587.msg765356#msg765356
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WHERE IS THE "LIBERAL" MEDIA OUTRAGE?

You should write jokes for Readers Digest or something I just spit on my screen that was so funny. :D

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The public has a bloodthirst and turns a blind eye to the destruction,,,,perpetual war for perpetual profit...rockefeller and the old clubs mantra.

we are thirsty no more. over 90% want us out NOW from Iraq and over 60% want us out NOW from Afghanistan. The only ones that want us in Pakistan are the contractors, death squads, and international banking elite that continues to drive us into debt.
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The only ones that want us in Pakistan are the contractors, death squads, and international banking elite that continues to drive us into debt.

And we all know the Military Industrial Complex don't give a shit about public (or global) opinion - they are clearly above the law, all laws?

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And we all know the Military Industrial Complex don't give a shit about public (or global) opinion - they are clearly above the law, all laws?

MIC is starting to see that they are also slaves to the banksters.  Much infighting going on right now, because the plan in the end is to abolish the MIC.  Many are waking up.Similar to the insurance companies waking up to the reality of the deathcare bill.
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MIC is starting to see that they are also slaves to the banksters.  Much infighting going on right now, because the plan in the end is to abolish the MIC.  Many are waking up.Similar to the insurance companies waking up to the reality of the deathcare bill.

God that's good news. Maybe the infighting will help people to see them for what they are.
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MIC is starting to see that they are also slaves to the banksters.  Much infighting going on right now, because the plan in the end is to abolish the MIC.  Many are waking up.Similar to the insurance companies waking up to the reality of the deathcare bill.
Hi sane. I'm glad to hear that. Problem they are all, each of them, bloodsuckers.

It would be more than pleasant to see them battling it out for their blood money, that is what is waking them up , profits, not conscience, not honor, nor patriotism.

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Hi sane. I'm glad to hear that. Problem they are all, each of them, bloodsuckers.

It would be more than pleasant to see them battling it out for their blood money, that is what is waking them up , profits, not conscience, not honor, nor patriotism.

Yes Chris, their soulless actions reveal a lack of humanity most cannot fathom and the ties run deep with the MIC and central banks. also the banksters planned for the eventual break in these ties, and that is why the infowars are so important.  the end game for these banksters include destroying every single power base...

religions
pharmaceuticals
energy
military
media
sovereignty
etc.

few pharoahs/kings/fake messiahs

all the rest exterminated or slaves.

the sooner everyone knows this, the easier it is to stop these genocides.
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For the past 17 years now we have had chickenhawks committing genocide and using brave American soldiers as pawns in international grand chessgames.  They never fought, yet they are so eager to have American soldiers die and kill millions under our flag.

WHERE IS THE "LIBERAL" MEDIA OUTRAGE?

WHERE IS CODE PINK?

WHAT THE F IS GOING ON?

They call us walking sandbags.  There is a reason for that.  They cower behind those who train and sacrifice.  I am sickened my bros are used this way.

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Hmmm.. they're dropping like flies...

ISLAMABAD: A former Pakistani chief diplomat was found dead in his Islamabad residence on Saturday, police said.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/06-police-find-dead-body-of-former-pakistan-chief-diplomat-rs-06

'We found Niaz A. Naik's decomposed body in his house, which was locked from inside,' local police official Baddar Munir told AFP.

Naik, 70, who retired as foreign secretary, the top bureaucratic post in the foreign ministry, more than a decade ago, was known for his back channel diplomacy aimed at improving Pakistan's ties with India.

'We have sent the body for autopsy to ascertain the cause of death,' Munir said, adding that Naik was living alone in the house.

Naik's friends had earlier informed police that the former diplomat was missing for the last five days.

'Niaz A. Naik was a distinguished diplomat who served Pakistan with great commitment and professionalism,' an official statement quoted foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi as saying.

'The foreign ministry and the nation will always remember his services,' Qureshi added. -AFP

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VIDEO: AfPak: Escalating War of Aggression
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2009, 10:12:04 pm »
AfPak: Escalating War of Aggression
September 4, 1:32 PMLA County Nonpartisan Examiner
Carl Herman

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s-j11SFBaA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eexaminer%2Ecom%2Fx%2D18425%2DLA%2DCounty%2DNonpartisan%2DExaminer%7Ey2009m9d4%2DAfPak%2DEscalating%2DWar%2Dof%2DAggression&feature=player_embedded

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”
 – James Madison, "Political Observations" (1795-04-20); also in Letters and Other Writings of James Madison (1865), Vol. IV, p. 491.  For more such advice on defending our Constitution, click here.
The US invasion of Afghanistan can be best legally understood as a “War of Aggression.” This label is appropriate because Afghanistan did not attack the US, the UN Security Council did not authorize use of force, and the US rejected the Afghan government’s offer of cooperation to capture Osama bin Laden if the US could provide any evidence of his involvement in a crime. I document this important story here with additional comments here, in as far as I know, uncontested fact because the key information comes from our own government’s admissions.

Because the Afpak War fails to meet the burden of proof before a nation may invade another, it is illegal. Another way of saying this is that it is tyrannical: outside the law and destructive. The mainstream media will not provide the history and legal context to understand one of the few areas of law that responsible citizens MUST know. Please be sure that you are satisfied with your understanding of one of our most important laws.
 
Yesterday, Secretary of War Defense Robert Gates discussed increasing American troop levels in Afghanistan in a Washington Post article under the ironic banner, “AfPak War: Combating Extremism in Afghanistan and Pakistan.” The Wall Street Journal headlined, “Obama Urged to Rally Support for War.” PressTV was left to acknowledge that a NATO airstrike yesterday killed 100 Afghan civilians, raising the year’s total to at least 1,000.
 
The psychopathic propaganda of our political “leadership” is that war is an effective strategy to produce peace and national security. Psychopathy is a study of destructive behavior under a veneer of socially acceptable rhetoric and acting. An alternative strategy to produce peace and security is to produce it through cooperation, justice, dignity and freedom. This is studied in university Peace Studies programs. For your consideration, bellow is one of the best known professors of Peace Studies, Paul Rogers, to give a 3-minute analysis for your consideration.
 
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Re: Obama sends marines to invade 3rd sovereign country-Pakistan [Bombshell incl]
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2009, 10:38:46 pm »
Over 400 militants in Pakistan killed in U.S. drone attacks in 9 months 
www.chinaview.cn  2009-09-04 23:23:18  
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/04/content_11998419.htm

 
    ISLAMABAD, Sept. 4 (Xinhua) -- At least 443 militants in northwest Pakistan have been killed in 37 U.S. drone attacks during the last 9 months in which the name of the Pakistan Taliban chief Baitullah Masood was on the top of the hit list, the local NNI news agency reported Friday.

    According to the news agency, the U.S. drone attacks pounded the hideouts of militants during current year and hit the areas of South Waziristan, North Waziristan, Kurram tribal agency, Orakzai agency and Buno and killed 443 militants.

    During the last nine months the total numbers of secret attacks were 37, out of which 27 attacks stroked in the area of South Waziristan, part of the lawless tribal regions along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan. Taliban and Al-Qaeda leaders are believed to be hiding in the area.

    The chief of banned Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Baitullah Mehsud was killed in one of the U.S. drone attacks in early August.

    U.S. drones regularly fire missile in the Pakistani tribal regions to target the militants and opposition parties said Pakistani government permitted such attacks. But Pakistan denied the charges.

    Pakistan insisted that drone attacks were counterproductive and must be stopped but the CIA chief and top U.S. officials have ruled out any change in the policy.

    Pakistani forces are on an offensive against the Taliban in South Waziristan against Taliban sympathizers after it launched an assault in the Swat Valley and Buner in the northwest in April.  


 
 

And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40