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In California and Texas, 5 New Swine Flu Cases

By Rob Stein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 24, 2009

Government scientists have identified five more people who have been infected with swine flu, apparently confirming suspicions that the unusual strain of the respiratory infection is spreading from person to person, federal health officials said yesterday.

Three new cases were found in California and two in Texas, bringing the total number of confirmed cases to seven, officials at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta said. The CDC announced Tuesday that two children had been infected in San Diego. The agency has launched an investigation to try to determine how widespread the virus is.

Officials said there was no reason for alarm despite the growing number of cases, but they urged doctors to be on the look-out for more cases and said they were intensifying their efforts. They have also taken preliminary steps to create a vaccine against the virus if necessary.

"We don't think this is time for major concern around the country," Anne Schuchat, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters in a telephone briefing.

"We are taking steps to know more and stay on top of the situation," she said, adding that the agency had alerted the World Health Organization and the Pan American Health Organization.

Two of the new cases involved a father and a daughter in San Diego County, and two others were boys who attend the same school near San Antonio. Those cases, combined with the lack of evidence that any of the infected people had contact with pigs, led officials to believe that the virus was spreading from one person to another, Schuchat said.

"We believe at this point that human-to-human spread is occurring. That's unusual. We don't know how widely it is spreading," she said, adding that she expects more cases to be identified in coming days as the investigation unfolds.

The cases so far involve three females and four males ranging in age from 9 to 54. The first child became ill March 28. The CDC confirmed the three new California cases Wednesday and the two new Texas cases -- in 16-year-old boys -- yesterday. Laboratory testing showed that the virus does not match any known flu strains.

The infection has caused typical flu-like symptoms, including high fever, sore throat and cough, as well as vomiting and diarrhea; one person was hospitalized. But so far, the virus does not appear to be causing serious illness, Schuchat said.

"The good news is all seven of these patients have recovered," she said. The virus appears to be resistant to two drugs normally used to treat the flu, but two others appear to be effective against it.

Genetic analysis of the virus indicates it is highly unusual: It is a hybrid that resulted from a combination of four different viruses -- one that typically infects people, one that originated in North American birds and two from pigs in Europe and Asia.

"This combination has not been recognized before in the U.S. or elsewhere," Schuchat said.

Although the cases all are scattered along the U.S.-Mexico border, officials have not identified any cases in Mexico. But they are continuing to investigate.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 03:57:11 am »
so is it spread by eating the infected food? or is it airborne or what.

if it spread by eating I dont mean to brag, but these are the times I savor for being a vegetarian, same with mad cow, and foot n mouth etc. most diseases are caused by our meat industry, the body doesnt need meat to survive, and plus it causes the most green house emissions. I say piss off all the meat, grow soy/ wheat (for gluten very high in protein) and we can all live an extra 5-10 years longer, have less cancers/ degenerative diseases, and stop the spreading of animal caused outbreaks, its win win.
and for all the people that say we need meat to survive, no you dont, you have just been taught that through brainwashing/ social engineering etc so that you will live shorter lives

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2009, 06:31:02 am »
Its coming from mexico from what I gather. They are having an epidemic. All this needs is some H5N1 mixed in and we are in trouble.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/Health/Canada+alert+after+respiratory+illnesses+reported+Mexico/1523180/story.html
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2009, 07:50:37 am »
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/04/23/bird-flu-and-swine-flu-outbreaks-the-health-risks-of-hysteria/

 Egyptian health officials have just reported two deaths from bird flu within days of each other. The dangerous virus variant H5N1 struck down a six-year-old boy and a young woman, bringing the total death toll in Egypt to 25. While bird flu experts note that Egypt has seen a surge in human cases in recent months, with 16 confirmed since the start of the year, compared to seven cases between January 1 and April 17 last year [Reuters], they also say that the Egyptian people’s level of alarm is out of proportion to the threat.

Rumors have appeared in the Egyptian media that the virus is circulating widely, and that some people get “silent infections” which show no symptoms, but still allow them to pass on the virus. The rumors have been fueled by the pattern of recent infections: Many of the infected patients have been toddlers, leading to the belief that stronger adults are also infected but simply show no symptoms. Although thousands of Egyptians have rushed their children to hospitals this flu season, there is no evidence yet of asymptomatic avian flu cases or any significant mutation in the H5N1 virus. “Right now, it’s all hot air,” said Dr. Robert G. Webster, a flu expert…. “I hope to hell it’s not happening, because it would mean the virus is adapting to humans. But there’s not a shred of data” [The New York Times].

While the H5N1 virus rarely infects people, the looming fear is that the virus may mutate into a form that can be transmitted easily from person to person, which could spark a deadly pandemic. However, an outbreak of swine flu across the world from Egypt, in Southern California, has reminded people of the hazards of overreacting before all the information is in.

Swine flu is found in pigs and very rarely in humans who have direct contact with pigs; the United States reports one human case every one or two years. However, two California children were diagnosed with the disease this spring, sparking an investigation by the Centers for Disease Control. Since neither of the two children, a 10-year-old boy and a 9-year-old girl, had contact with pigs, it “increases the possibility that human-to-human transmission of this new influenza virus has occurred,” according to a CDC report. The girl did attend an agricultural fair four weeks before becoming sick, she said, but did not have any contact with pigs or other livestock [CNN].

The incident has brought back memories of another swine flu outbreak in 1976 among army recruits at Fort Dix, New Jersey, which taught public health officials a tough lesson. That winter, 13 men got sick and one died of what proved to be swine influenza viruses–viruses that were thought to be similar to the one responsible for the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. U.S. officials ordered the manufacture of swine flu virus vaccine and the country proceeded to launch a mass immunization program that saw upwards of 40 million people injected with the vaccine. The feared pandemic never occurred. But the vaccine appeared to trigger a high level of cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a type of paralysis [The Canadian Press], and thousands of vaccine recipients filed injury claims.

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2009, 07:53:07 am »
So how many is it now ?
Is this shit for real ? Could this be the beginning ?
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2009, 07:56:06 am »
Swine flu kills 60 in Mexico, moves to US: WHO
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GENEVA (AFP) — A rare outbreak of human swine flu has killed at least 60 people in Mexico and spread to the United States where authorities are on alert, the World Health Organisation said on Friday.

The WHO has identified swine influenza as a potential source of a human flu pandemic. Fadela Chaib, a spokeswoman for the UN health agency, said hundreds of cases of suspected swine flu -- which regularly hits pigs but rarely affects humans -- have been reported in Mexico.

"To date there have been some 800 suspected cases with flu-like illness, with 57 deaths in the Mexico City area," Chaib added.

Twenty four suspected cases and three deaths were also recorded in San Luis Potosi in central Mexico.

Chaib said there are now seven known cases in the southwestern United States in three clusters -- five in California and two in Texas.

"Meanwhile in Mexico unusual end of season influenza activity began to be noticed at the end of March, peaking in April," the spokeswoman told journalists.

"The virus is being described in the United States as a new subtype of A/H1N1. Mexico so far hasn't said anything about the virus, what type of virus it is," said Chaib.

Most of the Mexican cases were found in healthy young adults with no known record of prior illness.

The WHO said it was in constant contact with health authorities in the United States and in Mexico.

Human outbreaks of H1N1 swine influenza virus were recorded in the United States in 1976 and 1988, when two deaths were recorded, and in 1986. In 1988 a pregnant woman died after contact with sick pigs according to the WHO.

In recent years the global focus for a pandemic has shifted to the H5N1 bird flu virus, which has spread from poultry to humans, especially in Asia.

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2009, 08:03:00 am »
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=a7MNonvi.C5g&refer=home

The swine flu virus contains four different gene segments representing both North American swine and avian influenza, human flu and a Eurasian swine flu, CDC said.

“We haven’t seen this strain before, but we haven’t been looking as intensively as we are these days,” Schuchat said. “It’s very possible that this is something new that hasn’t been happening before.”

Human Infections

Swine influenza is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type-A influenza that regularly causes outbreaks among the animals, according to the CDC. Swine flu doesn’t normally infect people, though human infections do occur and cases of human-to- human spread of swine flu viruses have been documented.

Infection in pigs is regarded as especially problematic because of the risk of “reassortment” to produce a new virus, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said.

“These mild U.S. cases infected with a novel influenza are not reflecting the emergence of a pandemic strain, but they at least raise the possibility that there has been limited human- to-human transmission,” the health agency said.

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2009, 08:09:41 am »
afaik, there is not yet any conclusive evidence that the virus in Mexico is influenza - there are rumours and CIDRAP is calling it H1N1 based on what they are told by the Mexican health authorities.  There are differences in as much that the Mexican strain appears to be far more virulent than the strain in CA and TX.  The other thread has some good info about it all.

Also, Flutrackers is a great place to keep track of what's going on - they have some very qualified people on there, including Henry Niman - a well known expert in the field of 'Recombinomics'.  You can follow his commentary here.


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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2009, 08:41:37 am »
Its coming from mexico from what I gather. They are having an epidemic. All this needs is some H5N1 mixed in and we are in trouble.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/Health/Canada+alert+after+respiratory+illnesses+reported+Mexico/1523180/story.html

Maybe that's their plan, it fits with reports we have been getting.

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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 08:44:43 am »
So you can die from this swine flu. This is serious.

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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2009, 08:52:11 am »
In California and Texas, 5 New Swine Flu Cases

Genetic analysis of the virus indicates it is highly unusual: It is a hybrid that resulted from a combination of four different viruses -- one that typically infects people, one that originated in North American birds and two from pigs in Europe and Asia.

"This combination has not been recognized before in the U.S. or elsewhere," Schuchat said.

 

In my opinion this is an engineered bio-weapon, give me a break "Four" different viruses!! This is impossible to occure naturally, correct me if I'm wrong.

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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2009, 08:53:22 am »
So you can die from this swine flu. This is serious.

Nobody in CA or TX has died from the strain of swine flu that they tested positive for.  People have died in Mexico, but there is no confirmation on the strain of virus.

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2009, 08:54:03 am »
In my opinion this is an engineered bio-weapon, give me a break "Four" different viruses!! This is impossible to occure naturally, correct me if I'm wrong.

It certainly sounds like what you would do if you were creating a bio-weapon, doesn't it?
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2009, 08:58:48 am »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30386163/

Source of 7 cases of swine flu a mystery
All victims have recovered but more cases expected

ATLANTA - Federal health experts expect to find more cases of a unique new form of swine flu as they check people who had contact with seven California and Texas residents diagnosed with the illness.

All of the seven victims recovered from the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses in a way that researchers have not seen before, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday.

The cases are a growing medical mystery because it's unclear how they caught the virus. The CDC said none of the seven people were in contact with pigs, which is how people usually catch swine flu. And only a few were in contact with each other.

Still, health officials said it's not a cause for public alarm: The five in California and two in Texas all recovered, only one person was hospitalized and testing indicates some mainstream antiviral medications seem to work against the virus.

Dr. Anne Schuchat of the CDC said officials believe it can spread human-to-human, which is unusual for a swine flu virus.

The CDC is checking people who have been in contact with the seven confirmed cases, who all became ill between late March and mid-April.

Because of intensive searching, it's likely health officials will find additional cases, said Schuchat, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

Unique combo virus
CDC officials detected a virus with a unique combination of gene segments that have not been seen in people or pigs before. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.

Health officials have seen mixes of bird, pig and human virus before, but never such an intercontinental combination with more than one pig virus in the mix.
Scientists keep a close eye on flu viruses that emerge from pigs. The animals are considered particularly susceptible to both avian and human viruses and a likely place where the kind of genetic reassortment can take place that might lead to a new form of pandemic flu, said Dr. John Treanor, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Rochester Medical Center.

The virus may be something completely new, or it may have been around for a while but was only detected now because of improved lab testing and disease surveillance, CDC officials said.The virus was first detected in two children in southern California — a 10-year-old boy in San Diego County and a 9-year-old girl in neighboring Imperial County.

The cases were detected under unusual circumstances. One was seen at a Navy clinic that participates in a specialized disease detection network, and the other was caught through a specialized surveillance system set up in border communities, CDC officials said.

On Thursday, investigators said they had discovered five more cases. That includes a father and his teenage daughter in San Diego County, a 41-year-old woman in Imperial County who was the only person hospitalized, and two 16-year-old boys who are friends and live in Guadalupe County, Texas, near San Antonio.

Puzzling cases
The Texas cases are especially puzzling. One of the California cases — the 10-year-old boy — traveled to Texas early this month, but that was to Dallas, about 270 miles northeast of San Antonio. He did not travel to the San Antonio area, Schuchat said.

The two 16-year-olds had not traveled recently, Texas health officials said.

The swine flu's symptoms are like those of the regular flu, mostly involving fever, cough and sore throat, though some of the seven also experienced vomiting and diarrhea.

CDC are not calling it an outbreak, a term that suggests ongoing illnesses. It's not known if anyone is getting sick from the virus right now, CDC officials said.

It's also not known if the seasonal flu vaccine that Americans got last fall and early this year protects against this type of virus. People should wash their hands and take other customary precautions, CDC officials said.

U.S. health officials are consulting with Mexican and Canadian health officials, and the CDC is beginning to receive samples from Mexico for testing, a CDC spokesman said. The ethnicity of the seven confirmed cases was not disclosed.


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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2009, 09:24:43 am »
Mexico - mystery flu, deaths, pandemic fear

Swine Flu, Mexico Lung Illness Heighten Pandemic Risk

By Jason Gale

April 24 (Bloomberg) -- Disease trackers are trying to determine whether a previously unseen strain of influenza in the U.S. is related to more than 130 cases of severe respiratory illness in Mexico and may spark a pandemic.

A new variant of H1N1 swine influenza has sickened at least seven patients in California and Texas, the Atlanta-based U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said yesterday. Mexico’s Health Minister Jose Cordova canceled classes in the capital, Mexico City, today and recommended citizens avoid public places after 20 fatalities from an illness possibly caused by a flu virus.

Scientists in both countries and Canada are studying the illnesses to determine whether they pose a larger public health threat. A pandemic can start when a novel influenza type-A virus, including swine flu, begins spreading, since no one has a natural immunity. The so-called 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, which may have killed as many as 50 million people, began when an avian flu virus jumped to people, experts said.

“The infection of humans with a novel influenza-A virus infection of animal origins, as has happened here, is of concern because of the risk, albeit small, that this could represent the appearance of viruses with pandemic potential,” the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said in a statement.

There’s no evidence a pandemic strain is evolving in the U.S., the Stockholm-based agency said. The CDC reached the same conclusion.

“We don’t think this is a time for major concern,” Anne Schuchat, CDC’s director of respiratory diseases, told reporters on a conference call yesterday.

Health-Care Workers

Authorities in Mexico asked the Public Health Agency of Canada to help identify what’s causing the lung infection that has also spread to five health-care workers, the Ottawa-based agency said in an e-mail yesterday.

Canada’s National Microbiology Lab received 51 specimens from Mexico on April 22 and will test them for pathogens. Tests in Mexico found patients had the H1N1 and type-B influenza strains and the parainfluenza virus, the agency said.

Three main human flu strains -- H3N2, H1N1 and type-B -- cause 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year globally, according to the World Health Organization, a United Nations agency. Pigs also are susceptible to flu, including the H1N1 subtype.

“It will be critical to determine whether or not the strains of H1N1 isolated from patients in Mexico are also swine flu,” Donald Low, an infectious diseases specialist at Toronto’s Mount Sinai Hospital, told the Canadian Press.

The CDC is discussing its cases and viruses with Mexico and the Pan American Health Organization, Schuchat said.

“At this point, we do not have any confirmation of swine influenza in Mexico,” Schuchat said.

Fatal Cases

Thirteen fatal cases of severe respiratory illness were reported in Mexico City; four in San Luis Potosi, north of the capital; two in the state of Baja California Norte, bordering California; and another in Oaxaca city in the south. Most cases occurred in southern and central Mexico in previously healthy adults ages 25 to 44.

Symptoms include high fever, headache, eye pain, shortness of breath and extreme fatigue with rapid progression of symptoms to severe respiratory distress in about five days, the Canadian agency said. A “high proportion” of cases require mechanical respiration, it said.

The four males and three females in San Diego County and Imperial County, California, and in San Antonio, Texas, diagnosed with swine flu had mild flu-like symptoms. The patients, 9 to 54 years old, included a father-daughter pair and two boys attending the same Texas school.

Human-to-Human Spread

The virus is contagious and spreading from human to human, the CDC said in a statement on its Web site. The patients began feeling sick from March 28 to April 19. All have recovered and only one was hospitalized, according to the CDC. None had direct contact with pigs.

“That’s unusual,” Schuchat said. “We don’t know yet how widely it’s spreading and we certainly don’t know the extent of the problem.”

As precaution, CDC is preparing the virus as a vaccine seed strain that could be used to make immunizations, she said.

The swine flu virus contains four different gene segments representing both North American swine and avian influenza, human flu and a Eurasian swine flu, CDC said.

“We haven’t seen this strain before, but we haven’t been looking as intensively as we are these days,” Schuchat said. “It’s very possible that this is something new that hasn’t been happening before.”

Human Infections

Swine influenza is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type-A influenza that regularly causes outbreaks among the animals, according to the CDC. Swine flu doesn’t normally infect people, though human infections do occur and cases of human-to- human spread of swine flu viruses have been documented.

Infection in pigs is regarded as especially problematic because of the risk of “reassortment” to produce a new virus, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said.

“These mild U.S. cases infected with a novel influenza are not reflecting the emergence of a pandemic strain, but they at least raise the possibility that there has been limited human- to-human transmission,” the health agency said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Jason Gale in Singapore at j.gale@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: April 24, 2009 07:46 EDT

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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2009, 09:26:26 am »
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Swine flu cases up to 7; officials expand probe
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By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer - Thu Apr 23, 4:10 PM PDT

ATLANTA - Health officials are investigating a never-before-seen form of the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses and which has infected seven people in California and Texas. All the victims recovered, but the cases are a growing medical mystery because it's unclear how they caught the virus.



Swine flu cases up to 7; officials expand probe
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By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer - Thu Apr 23, 4:10 PM PDT


None of the seven people were in contact with pigs, which is how people usually catch swine flu. And only a few were in contact with each other, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Still, health officials said it's not a cause for public alarm: The five in California and two in Texas have all recovered, and testing indicates some mainstream antiviral medications seem to work against the virus.

Dr. Anne Schuchat of the CDC said officials believe it can spread human-to-human, which is unusual for a swine flu virus.

The CDC is checking people who have been in contact with the seven confirmed cases, who all became ill between late March and mid-April.

Because of intensive searching, it's likely health officials will find additional cases, said Schuchat, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

CDC officials detected a virus with a unique combination of gene segments that have not been seen in people or pigs before. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.

Health officials have seen mixes of bird, pig and human virus before, but never such an intercontinental combination with more than one pig virus in the mix.

Scientists keep a close eye on flu viruses that emerge from pigs. The animals are considered particularly susceptible to both avian and human viruses and a likely place where the kind of genetic reassortment can take place that might lead to a new form of pandemic flu, said Dr. John Treanor, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Rochester Medical Center.

The virus may be something completely new, or it may have been around for a while but was only detected now because of improved lab testing and disease surveillance, CDC officials said.

The virus was first detected in two children in southern California — a 10-year-old boy in San Diego County and a 9-year-old girl in neighboring Imperial County.

The cases were detected under unusual circumstances. One was seen at a Navy clinic that participates in a specialized disease detection network, and the other was caught through a specialized surveillance system set up in border communities, CDC officials said.

On Thursday, investigators said they had discovered five more cases. That includes a father and his teenage daughter in San Diego County, a 41-year-old woman in Imperial County (the only person hospitalized), and two 16-year-old boys who are friends and live in Guadalupe County, Texas, near San Antonio.

The Texas cases are especially puzzling. One of the California cases — the 10-year-old boy — traveled to Texas early this month, but that was to Dallas, about 270 miles northeast of San Antonio. He did not travel to the San Antonio area, Schuchat said.

The two 16-year-olds had not traveled recently, Texas health officials said.

The swine flu's symptoms are like those of the regular flu, mostly involving fever, cough and sore throat, though some of the seven also experienced vomiting and diarrhea.

CDC are not calling it an outbreak, a term that suggests ongoing illnesses. It's not known if anyone is getting sick from the virus right now, CDC officials said.

It's also not known if the seasonal flu vaccine that Americans got last fall and early this year protects against this type of virus. People should wash their hands and take other customary precautions, CDC officials said.

U.S. health officials are consulting with Mexican and Canadian health officials, and the CDC is beginning to receive samples from Mexico for testing, a CDC spokesman said. The ethnicity of the seven confirmed cases was not disclosed.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2009, 09:27:54 am »
Nobody in CA or TX has died from the strain of swine flu that they tested positive for.  People have died in Mexico, but there is no confirmation on the strain of virus.

That sounds good.

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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2009, 09:29:12 am »
This is the height of disinfo.  Connections are being made between the outbreak in Mexico, CA and TX with no conclusive proof!

From the current headline story on Drudge...
"US medical authorities expressed strong concern Friday about an unprecedented multi-strain swine flu outbreak that has killed at least 60 people in Mexico and infected seven people in the United States."

From the same article...
"US health officials were due to receive samples from Mexico that would be tested at a lab at the centers based in Atlanta, Georgia."

U.S. labs have not even tested the Mexican strain, yet they/the media are calling it already.  This stinks so bad I can't stand it.  The results on the Mexican strain will be released later today - it may well be the same virus, but the difference in virulence is making it unlikely, imvho.

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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2009, 09:43:36 am »
On the upside; this may be a way to get exposed to the the bird flu and not die. Depends on which bird flu. Just being hopeful....

Either way, this is nothing new. YET....

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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 09:52:45 am »
I agree...playing guessing games when it comes to flu strains is a bad idea with a frightened public. They need to get the samples tested FIRST, THEN you make conclusions based on the evidence found. To do otherwise is putting the cart before the horse.

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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2009, 09:58:34 am »
Let's see what comes out of the CDC media briefing this afternoon at 3:30 EST.

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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2009, 10:05:25 am »
Well, it seems the whitecoats have got the "person-to-person" thing down.  At least.  Now all they need to do is graft that onto a more deadly form of the virus, and they'll have their new pandemic.  Good work, boys!  (expect a bonus this week, Rocky will be pleased)  See ya in hell (oh, forgot, you boys don't believe in hell). 

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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2009, 10:47:06 am »
Well, to coin a phrase from Alex..can't wait to hear his take on all of this.

MAYDAY...
MAYDAY...
MAYDAY!!!
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2009, 10:49:31 am »
Well, to coin a phrase from Alex..can't wait to hear his take on all of this.

MAYDAY...
MAYDAY...
MAYDAY!!!

I KNOW...I wish he was doing the show today...is bermas still gonna be filling in for him?

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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2009, 11:36:12 am »
It's Alex today...not really playing up the swine/SARS-ish outbreak up that much.
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2009, 11:45:57 am »
New flu kills 15, sickens 943 in Mexico; CDC help sought

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico closed schools across this metropolis of 20 million Friday after at least 16 people died and more than 900 others fell ill from what health officials suspect is a strain of swine flu new to Mexico.
Mexico's Health Secretary Jose Cordova said officials have sent samples to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia, to determine whether it's the same virus infecting seven people in Texas and California

Cordova told local media the flu is a "new, different strain ... that originally came from pigs."

Mexico's Public Health Department said tests proved that 16 died from the new strain, and about 44 other suspected cases still being were still being tested. The department put the total number of people sickened at around 943 nationwide.

Cordova described a chilling new strain that had killed only people among the normally less-vulnerable young and mid-adult age range. One possibility is that the most vulnerable segments of the population — infants and the aged — had been vaccinated against other strains, and that those vaccines may be providing some protection.

But Dr. Anne Schuchat of the CDC said "at this point, we do not have any confirmations of swine influenza in Mexico" of the kind that sickened seven California and Texas residents.

All seven U.S. victims recovered from a strain of the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses in a way that researchers have not seen before.

Cordova also told MVS radio in Mexico City that Mexican health officials can't be sure that the deaths "are from the same virus, but it is probable."

The World Health Organization in Geneva, Switzerland said there have been 57 deaths in Mexico, and estimated the number of total cases at over 800, spokeswoman Fadela Chaib said.

Closing the schools kept millions of students out of classes and forced their parents to scramble to juggle work and family concerns Friday — the first citywide closure since Mexico City's devastating 1985 earthquake, according to local media.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-04-24-mexico-flu_N.htm?csp=34

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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2009, 11:50:42 am »
So how many is it now ?
Is this shit for real ? Could this be the beginning ?

Well it made me take notice.   I don't have the medical smarts to know if it's 'the start' or not, but I loaded up on my 'last minute' preps, eg filled a large number of water butts, gas cans, and a supply of those food preps that have shorter shelf-lives, eg dried milk and flour.

If flu don't get me the credit card bill sure will  :-\

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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2009, 12:02:15 pm »
Well, it seems the whitecoats have got the "person-to-person" thing down.  At least.  Now all they need to do is graft that onto a more deadly form of the virus, and they'll have their new pandemic.  Good work, boys!  (expect a bonus this week, Rocky will be pleased)  See ya in hell (oh, forgot, you boys don't believe in hell). 
Don't worry. The virus didn't kill anyone in the US but it killed 60 people already in Mexico:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8016909.stm
It might not kill you if you're living in a 1st world nation with adequate medical care, but if you're living in a 3rd world hellhole on the brink of starvation you'll love this. Remember:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=98999.0
Excess mortality data show that, even in 1918—20, population mortality varied over 30-fold across countries. Per-head income explained a large fraction of this variation in mortality. Extrapolation of 1918—20 mortality rates to the worldwide population of 2004 indicates that an estimated 62 million people (10th—90th percentile range 51 million—81 million) would be killed by a similar influenza pandemic; 96% (95% CI 95—98) of these deaths would occur in the developing world. If this mortality were concentrated in a single year, it would increase global mortality by 114%.

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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2009, 12:05:12 pm »
   After you put lipstick on the pig throw it away. It's gotta be how it is spread.
 When an accident occurs they don't tell us anything. If a Scientist has an accident, military, private they clean it up best they can and don't say anything to locals.
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2009, 12:10:03 pm »
I see the number of sick in mexico is almost up to 1,000  :-\

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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2009, 12:13:30 pm »
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I see the number of sick in mexico is almost up to 1,000 


Where you see that?

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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2009, 12:15:53 pm »


Where you see that?
New flu kills 15, sickens 943 in Mexico; CDC help sought

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico closed schools across this metropolis of 20 million Friday after at least 16 people died and more than 900 others fell ill from what health officials suspect is a strain of swine flu new to Mexico.
Mexico's Health Secretary Jose Cordova said officials have sent samples to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia, to determine whether it's the same virus infecting seven people in Texas and California

Cordova told local media the flu is a "new, different strain ... that originally came from pigs."

Mexico's Public Health Department said tests proved that 16 died from the new strain, and about 44 other suspected cases still being were still being tested. The department put the total number of people sickened at around 943 nationwide.

Cordova described a chilling new strain that had killed only people among the normally less-vulnerable young and mid-adult age range. One possibility is that the most vulnerable segments of the population — infants and the aged — had been vaccinated against other strains, and that those vaccines may be providing some protection.

But Dr. Anne Schuchat of the CDC said "at this point, we do not have any confirmations of swine influenza in Mexico" of the kind that sickened seven California and Texas residents.

All seven U.S. victims recovered from a strain of the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses in a way that researchers have not seen before.

Cordova also told MVS radio in Mexico City that Mexican health officials can't be sure that the deaths "are from the same virus, but it is probable."

The World Health Organization in Geneva, Switzerland said there have been 57 deaths in Mexico, and estimated the number of total cases at over 800, spokeswoman Fadela Chaib said.

Closing the schools kept millions of students out of classes and forced their parents to scramble to juggle work and family concerns Friday — the first citywide closure since Mexico City's devastating 1985 earthquake, according to local media.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-04-24-mexico-flu_N.htm?csp=34

 ;) 8)

They're finally going to seek help from the CDC on this one ::)

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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2009, 12:20:28 pm »
Don't worry. The virus didn't kill anyone in the US but it killed 60 people already in Mexico:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8016909.stm
It might not kill you if you're living in a 1st world nation with adequate medical care, but if you're living in a 3rd world hellhole on the brink of starvation you'll love this. Remember:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=98999.0
Excess mortality data show that, even in 1918—20, population mortality varied over 30-fold across countries. Per-head income explained a large fraction of this variation in mortality. Extrapolation of 1918—20 mortality rates to the worldwide population of 2004 indicates that an estimated 62 million people (10th—90th percentile range 51 million—81 million) would be killed by a similar influenza pandemic; 96% (95% CI 95—98) of these deaths would occur in the developing world. If this mortality were concentrated in a single year, it would increase global mortality by 114%.

According to current U.N and CFR documentation, this outbreak is going according to all their dreams. No deaths in 1st world but excessive mortality on the poor and non-white of the third world.

Can someone a bt better versed in virology/biology explain to me how a virus has trace rna content from 3 different species and just suddenly appears from nowhere?
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2009, 12:22:52 pm »
In one of the two other threads about this, there was a mention in the Globe & Mail story that it was mainly affecting "healthy" people and not the usual flu victims (elderly and those with weak immune systems). That seems odd.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=101237.msg603068#msg603068

Most of the cases have occurred in healthy young adults, he added. "Because these cases are not happening in the very old or the very young, which is normal with seasonal influenza, this is an unusual event and a cause for heightened concern," Hartl said in an interview from WHO headquarters in Geneva.
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2009, 12:23:34 pm »
I'm no virologist, but from what I read, the odds of all 4 strains being found in one human host is frighteningly low, much less 7 people (confirmed so far)

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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2009, 12:24:24 pm »
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Can someone a bt better versed in virology/biology explain to me how a virus has trace rna content from 3 different species and just suddenly appears from nowhere?


We need to post that question on a biogeek forum somewhere.

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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2009, 12:27:18 pm »
Good idea, also we need to get alex to get one of the docs back on the show to talk about this, like bill deagle maybe.

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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2009, 12:31:41 pm »
It started in Mexico today, with schools shut down.

Now, the deadly virus has been confirmed to have spread to the US.

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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2009, 12:36:27 pm »
I'm no virologist, but from what I read, the odds of all 4 strains being found in one human host is frighteningly low, much less 7 people (confirmed so far)

Yeah the "Combo-Flu Bug" found to have Swine, Bird, and Human components is very strange.  Considering that the Bird flu bug only jumps to humans in extremely rare cases ... 

Common sense points to the possibility of it being a weaponized production.
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2009, 12:41:48 pm »
guys I monved the CFR/Rockefeller bird flu plan board to the top of all other boards.

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