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Alex talking about the Space Planes
« on: April 19, 2009, 09:18:16 pm »
I wanna know....I wanna know....I wanna know where the space planes are at.

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Re: Alex talking about the Space Planes
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 09:21:28 pm »
What the hell is a space plane?

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Re: Alex talking about the Space Planes
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 09:32:54 pm »
Thats what i wanna know alex brought them up in the 2nd hour i jsut heard it.

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Re: Alex talking about the Space Planes
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 10:23:50 pm »
What the hell is a space plane?

The SR71 Blackbird is MORE than capable of going into space. 2 things prevent this. One, the cabin is not made for a 0 atmosphere, and two, it has no thrusters to manuver it.

The SR71 was retired several, several years ago, and it was made back in the 60's.

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Re: Alex talking about the Space Planes
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 12:22:27 am »
SR71 could fly out of the atmosphere then fall back down again -- but it's no interstellar vehicle. Doesn't have rocket engines... or does it... wouldn't be very stealthy with a rocket engine... hehehe

But I guess a space plane is a plane that flies at extremely high altitude?

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Re: Alex talking about the Space Planes
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 09:13:39 am »
I remember alex talking about how rom emanuel and hillary and all of obamas cabinet looking so confident on stage due to their knowledge of all the advanced military power they now posess, and alex even put it kinda like this: "Look at them so smug, knowing how much power they have, they are thinking oooh we have control of the military might, the spaceplanes etc etc"  and I instantly knew what alex was talking about and you can too

Have any of you ever heard of the X series aircraft like X-20, X-33 etc?  We only know of a few of the unclassified ones, and we will learn of the rest sometime in the future when brand new secret ones are ready.
This is the type of program something like our new space shuttle has come from.

Youve all seen this thing before, the new spaceshuttle to replace the outdated fleet, the X-33

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_X-33
This is basically a space plane but with limited features.

also,notice the lockheed martin logo, does this image remind you of something?


The new lockheed martin High Altitude Airship (HAA) suborbital surveillance blimp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_airship
  Lockheed is truly an amazing company.  Its too bad who they work for because they have such amazing potential for good really.  So has much of our space research really gone into surveillance which will be turned on us or already has?  Well remember that spy satellites were a big part of the Cold War space race.

Lets remember that this stuff isn't new at all.  Here is the X-20 Dnya-Soar, ColdWar style spaceplane.  If we had them back then imagine what we have now.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-20_Dyna-Soar
"The X-20 Dyna-Soar ("Dynamic Soarer") was a United States Air Force (USAF) program to develop a spaceplane that could be used for a variety of military missions, including reconnaissance, bombing, space rescue, satellite maintenance, and sabotage of enemy satellites. The program ran from 24 October 1957–10 December 1963"

So with the ColdWar over, what is this all for?

The Global Information Grid, Airforce Space Command, the JFCCNW and the JFCC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Functional_Component_Command_for_Network_Warfare


This Global Information Grid will be a truly cybernetic and almost omnipresent, omniscient dataveillance system but will be micromanaged by the worlds elite via the US military from the top down, literally, through the use of high orbit laser armed satellites.

Airforce Space Command (wow!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command


United States Space Surveillance Network?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Surveillance_Network


Joint Functional Space Command

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Functional_Component_Command_for_Space
“Our prime mission directive in JFCC SPACE is to ensure our freedom of action in space, while preventing adversary use of space against us.”

JFCC? Really? SO I guess we know who has authority over our spaceplanes, or who the imperial starships must radio in to before docking at the Death Star!

Here is our new space shuttles engine
  Straight out of StarWars right?


Ok Who here remembers the Aurora?  I am from southern california and the aurora shook my house and all my neighbors would come out and ask everyone else what was going on.  the local news had to eventually come out and say the military was flying fighter jets overhead and creating sonic booms.  I was about 10 years old when this was happening but i remember it so vividly because 1: my whole neighborhood and really the whole city was freaked out and it was really exciting 2: 60 minutes had a scientist on with a freaking model of the two aircraft aurora secret pulse jet orbital plane that "skipped" on the atmosphere And 3. my very conservative and skeptical mother, while walking around town working for power/gas company reading meters, had actually seen the donuts on a rope pattern in the sky and what she described as if "someone had white paint on their finger and drew a line across the entire sky in less than 1 second"

And now its public!
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010418/sc/hypersonic_plane_1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_X-43
so small!
X-43A at Mach 7


We see here that just like the scientist on 60 Minutes with his 2 aircraft model of the "aurora", it does require a primary stage rocket or larger airplane to make it halfway, similar to SpaceShipOne which won the X Prize


The officially announced X-43A with its pulse/scram jet engine creates the famous donuts-on-a-rope
contrails:


No other engine could ever ever ever produce a pattern like this, and sorry its no conspiracy if NASA is public with this new pulsejet propulsion system! http://sbir.nasa.gov/SBIR/successes/ss/3-038text.html

MSNBC even has articles about spaceplanes
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6001932/
Here is the X37

2004 - "NASA has transferred its X-37 technology demonstration program to the Pentagon’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which plans to go ahead with atmospheric drop tests of the prototype space plane next year."

Russian Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-105
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-105


Blackstar, a leaked spaceplane
"In 2008 details emerged[6] of an unmanned hypersonic platform called Blackswift, otherwise known as HTV-3X or X-43A, part of the DARPA Falcon Project.
Footage of the tests of this vehicle was made available by NASA in June 2008"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstar_(spaceplane)



Here is the X-40A


The OSP/CEV

"President Bush called on NASA to switch to a concept known as the Crew Exploration Vehicle, a modular spaceship that could be used for station trips as well as journeys to the moon and beyond."

Now that we know all of this, the whole notion of secret military moonbases doesn't seem that far off, does it?






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Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 09:16:59 am »
Hi, I need to post this here to dismiss discredability given to Alex based on his comments on Space Planes.  Just like Chemtrails, they are very real, look for yourself.

I remember alex talking about how rom emanuel and hillary and all of obamas cabinet looking so confident on stage due to their knowledge of all the advanced military power they now posess, and alex even put it kinda like this: "Look at them so smug, knowing how much power they have, they are thinking oooh we have control of the military might, the spaceplanes etc etc"  and I instantly knew what alex was talking about and you can too

Have any of you ever heard of the X series aircraft like X-20, X-33 etc?  We only know of a few of the unclassified ones, and we will learn of the rest sometime in the future when brand new secret ones are ready.
This is the type of program something like our new space shuttle has come from.

Youve all seen this thing before, the new spaceshuttle to replace the outdated fleet, the X-33

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_X-33
This is basically a space plane but with limited features.

also,notice the lockheed martin logo, does this image remind you of something?


The new lockheed martin High Altitude Airship (HAA) suborbital surveillance blimp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_airship
  Lockheed is truly an amazing company.  Its too bad who they work for because they have such amazing potential for good really.  So has much of our space research really gone into surveillance which will be turned on us or already has?  Well remember that spy satellites were a big part of the Cold War space race.

Lets remember that this stuff isn't new at all.  Here is the X-20 Dnya-Soar, ColdWar style spaceplane.  If we had them back then imagine what we have now.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-20_Dyna-Soar
"The X-20 Dyna-Soar ("Dynamic Soarer") was a United States Air Force (USAF) program to develop a spaceplane that could be used for a variety of military missions, including reconnaissance, bombing, space rescue, satellite maintenance, and sabotage of enemy satellites. The program ran from 24 October 1957–10 December 1963"

So with the ColdWar over, what is this all for?

The Global Information Grid, Airforce Space Command, the JFCCNW and the JFCC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Functional_Component_Command_for_Network_Warfare


This Global Information Grid will be a truly cybernetic and almost omnipresent, omniscient dataveillance system but will be micromanaged by the worlds elite via the US military from the top down, literally, through the use of high orbit laser armed satellites.

Airforce Space Command (wow!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command


United States Space Surveillance Network?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Surveillance_Network


Joint Functional Space Command

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Functional_Component_Command_for_Space
“Our prime mission directive in JFCC SPACE is to ensure our freedom of action in space, while preventing adversary use of space against us.”

JFCC? Really? SO I guess we know who has authority over our spaceplanes, or who the imperial starships must radio in to before docking at the Death Star!

Here is our new space shuttles engine
  Straight out of StarWars right?


Ok Who here remembers the Aurora?  I am from southern california and the aurora shook my house and all my neighbors would come out and ask everyone else what was going on.  the local news had to eventually come out and say the military was flying fighter jets overhead and creating sonic booms.  I was about 10 years old when this was happening but i remember it so vividly because 1: my whole neighborhood and really the whole city was freaked out and it was really exciting 2: 60 minutes had a scientist on with a freaking model of the two aircraft aurora secret pulse jet orbital plane that "skipped" on the atmosphere And 3. my very conservative and skeptical mother, while walking around town working for power/gas company reading meters, had actually seen the donuts on a rope pattern in the sky and what she described as if "someone had white paint on their finger and drew a line across the entire sky in less than 1 second"

And now its public!
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010418/sc/hypersonic_plane_1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_X-43
so small!
X-43A at Mach 7


We see here that just like the scientist on 60 Minutes with his 2 aircraft model of the "aurora", it does require a primary stage rocket or larger airplane to make it halfway, similar to SpaceShipOne which won the X Prize


The officially announced X-43A with its pulse/scram jet engine creates the famous donuts-on-a-rope
contrails:


No other engine could ever ever ever produce a pattern like this, and sorry its no conspiracy if NASA is public with this new pulsejet propulsion system! http://sbir.nasa.gov/SBIR/successes/ss/3-038text.html

MSNBC even has articles about spaceplanes
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6001932/
Here is the X37

2004 - "NASA has transferred its X-37 technology demonstration program to the Pentagon’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which plans to go ahead with atmospheric drop tests of the prototype space plane next year."

Russian Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-105
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-105


Blackstar, a leaked spaceplane
"In 2008 details emerged[6] of an unmanned hypersonic platform called Blackswift, otherwise known as HTV-3X or X-43A, part of the DARPA Falcon Project.
Footage of the tests of this vehicle was made available by NASA in June 2008"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstar_(spaceplane)



Here is the X-40A


The OSP/CEV

"President Bush called on NASA to switch to a concept known as the Crew Exploration Vehicle, a modular spaceship that could be used for station trips as well as journeys to the moon and beyond."

Now that we know all of this, the whole notion of secret military moonbases doesn't seem that far off, does it?






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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 10:05:52 am »
I thought the X-33 concept was being scrapped in favor of the "Orion" project that is more Apollo style in design.?
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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 10:19:11 am »
no way..'they' already have sausers, man.

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 10:53:25 am »
Wicked POST!

I love this stuff

I thought a Scram jet cannot work until the craft is already going Mach1
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 10:59:06 am »
Please stop posting these obvious photoshopped pictures. The only plane that has ever existed involves two wings and a fuselage. Anything else is not possible. LIARS! The NASA program still uses 30 year old technology in their cockpit and there is no secret space program.  Everything they tell us is the truth and the government loves us.

Side note...I love it when they put their fricking logos on the side of these weapons of mass destruction.  Total insanity.
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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 11:07:04 am »
The SR71 could have been a space plane.
It needed 2 things, a cockpit capable of 0 atmosphere, and vectored thrusters.

SHUT UP! The SR71 doesn't exist! The stealths don't exist. SHUT UP. Its a conspiracy theory! 2+2=5 SHUT UP!

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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 11:17:39 am »
Please stop posting these obvious photoshopped pictures. The only plane that has ever existed involves two wings and a fuselage. Anything else is not possible. LIARS! The NASA program still uses 30 year old technology in their cockpit and there is no secret space program.  Everything they tell us is the truth and the government loves us.

Side note...I love it when they put their fricking logos on the side of these weapons of mass destruction.  Total insanity.

We all know that it costs 1Billion dollars per shuttle flight

And Richard Branson can get you there for about 200K $


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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 11:19:49 am »
 If you look to history countless advanced technologies have come from military projects.

 Take GPS for example... they had that for over a decade before it was commercialized, and even then it was
expensive as hell, and only used by a few.
  Some 20 years later it's finally become affordable and ubiquitous.

  So you can bet your ass they already have things the scientific community doesn't expect to see for another decade.
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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 11:21:23 am »
Yep a lot of these planes get mistaken for UFOs and the military just fuel the deception by say 'Nope we had nothing in the area at that time' LIARS!!
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2009, 12:29:00 pm »
Yep a lot of these planes get mistaken for UFOs and the military just fuel the deception by say 'Nope we had nothing in the area at that time' LIARS!!

Please lets not confuse these silly attempts at being super space ships with real UFO's or at least the genuine ones. We do not have the technology to develop and build stuff which instantly  accelerates from noting to MK4 or 5 and stop again to (0) in less than a second. Unless they working on a new type of JAM!  :P

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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2009, 12:35:05 pm »
Occam'a razor...

Simplest explanation for ufos are either misinterpreted military projects or
 Ball lightning.  It's a known phenomenon, and it CAN accelerate to fantastic speeds and then come to a dead stop.

At night it's luminous (mostly blue/white but other colors have been observed), and during the day it's reflective or "metalic" looking.
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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2009, 12:49:44 pm »
Please lets not confuse these silly attempts at being super space ships with real UFO's or at least the genuine ones. We do not have the technology to develop and build stuff which instantly  accelerates from noting to MK4 or 5 and stop again to (0) in less than a second. Unless they working on a new type of JAM!  :P


"We do not have the technology to develop and build stuff which instantly  accelerates from noting to MK4 or 5 and stop again to (0) in less than a second."

Are you talking about the stuff in "Pentagon Aliens"?
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2009, 02:06:26 pm »
Occam'a razor...

Simplest explanation for ufos are either misinterpreted military projects or
 Ball lightning.  It's a known phenomenon, and it CAN accelerate to fantastic speeds and then come to a dead stop.

At night it's luminous (mostly blue/white but other colors have been observed), and during the day it's reflective or "metalic" looking.

bingo, darpa is 30 years ahead of the rest of us

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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2009, 02:06:31 pm »

"We do not have the technology to develop and build stuff which instantly  accelerates from noting to MK4 or 5 and stop again to (0) in less than a second."

Are you talking about the stuff in "Pentagon Aliens"?


Well according to some others It's ball lightning! More like just, balls!!!!!!!!!!!!  But seriously, I know about ball lighting, which probably does explain a very few incidents, but does, by no means answer any where near all of them, that don't sell In space for example! Also these things exhibit intelligence, and somehow ball lightning just don't' come up with the goods.  

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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2009, 02:07:46 pm »
bingo, darpa is 30 years ahead of the rest of us

Needs to be more like 3000 years to perform those stunts!  :o

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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2009, 02:08:51 pm »
Check out Hoagland's http://www.enterprisemission.com
Also his books, like "Dark Mission  - The Secret History of NASA"


http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/weblog.htm

 Commentary by Richard C. Hoagland
Tuesday, October 18, 2005
Somebody Tried to Kill Hurricane Wilma ... BEFORE She was Born!
...

Bearden's criticism of our own Government's mishandling of these extraordinary technologies also parallels our own, regarding their literal decades of intense compartmentalization -- in so-called "deep black programs":

"In the extreme, such a deep black program can even become a 'captured' program -- which is totally in the hands of the rogues and no longer reports to or is bound by the dictates of the parent government."

"They have their own agendas. And being rogue groups, they may well bring in unethical, immoral tricks: assassination, bribery, entrapment, disinformation, plausible deniability, etc. A certain percentage of a highly secret rogue group will wind up using all these things and more. It's a human characteristic, the old primate dominance game. Only now disguised and hidden under deep classification. ...

"In highly classified groups, these groups are greatly enabled to joust more widely, unethically, and immorally because it is so deeply hidden. So very deep classification evokes the growth and intensity of rogue groups. It's the old 'Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely' routine. ... Due to loose formation of rogue groups inside such programs, they may have dual or triple purposes, may not operate under very much legitimate government control at all, and may operate specifically for the purposes of the rogue group or groups that have gained control.
"The involvement of at least some rogue groups, some being 'cowboys' who operate well outside all laws and ethics, could also result in such things as assassinations, clandestine testing on individuals without their consent, etc. In short, it could account for what seems to be actually occurring [emphasis added]."
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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2009, 02:10:57 pm »
Hahaha hilarious... taxpayer dollars hard at work.. ;D


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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2009, 02:14:30 pm »
Check out Hoagland's http://www.enterprisemission.com
Also his books, like "Dark Mission  - The Secret History of NASA"


Great, about time had some support here! Thanks.

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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2009, 02:35:16 pm »
Needs to be more like 3000 years to perform those stunts!  :o

Watch Project Camelot interview with David Icke.  If you work out the laws of exponential technological advances, 30 years worth of suppression amounts to hundreds of years of advancement.
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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2009, 02:35:33 pm »
Well according to some others It's ball lightning! More like just, balls!!!!!!!!!!!!  But seriously, I know about ball lighting, which probably does explain a very few incidents, but does, by no means answer any where near all of them, that don't sell In space for example! Also these things exhibit intelligence, and somehow ball lightning just don't' come up with the goods.  

So you did not read "Pentagon Aliens"?
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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2009, 02:47:34 pm »


The ship that John Crichton used in Farscape is one of them.

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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2009, 03:04:29 pm »
Now that's one hell of an answer.

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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2009, 09:42:41 pm »
no way..'they' already have sausers, man.

Fying Saucers?  Well actually...

"University of Florida professor designs plasma-propelled flying saucer"
Pass a current or magnetic field through a conducting fluid and it will generate a force. Numerous aerospace engineers have tried and failed to exploit this phenomenon, known as magnetohydrodynamics, as an exotic form of propulsion for aircraft. But perhaps attempts so far have all been too big.  A very small design could have a better chance of taking off, says Subrata Roy, an aerospace engineer at the University of Florida, Gainesville, US.  With a span of less than 15 centimetres, his aircraft qualifies as a micro air vehicle (MAV), but it has an unconventional design to say the least. It is a saucer shape covered with electrodes that ionise air to create a plasma. This plasma is then accelerated by an electric field to push air around and generate lift.

http://www.physorg.com/news132405698.html
http://www.newscientist.com/blog/invention/2008/05/plasma-powered-flying-saucer.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13840-invention-plasmapowered-flying-saucer.html
"This electrode-studded disc just 15 cm across could take flight thanks to an effect called magnetohydrodynamics, says its inventor"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamic_drive
"A magnetohydrodynamic drive or MHD propulsor, is a method for propelling seagoing vessels using only electric and magnetic fields with no moving parts, using magnetohydrodynamics."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&oi=video_result&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCJGBy_yygaQ&ei=8zDtSda5ApuEtAOBwcn0AQ&usg=AFQjCNGWlzE1x22eCcAJQHf0JJuUum4log&sig2=qEbQKeMLT9V7SrIXU4JKEg



Oh wow so look did they change the name of is this what the Aurora Program is? A human spaceflight system, so yes it is about spaceplanes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_programme
"The Aurora programme is a human spaceflight programme of the European Space Agency established in 2001 with the primary objectives of creating, and then implementing, a European long-term plan for exploration of the Solar System using robotic spacecraft and human spaceflight. A secondary objective is to search for life beyond the Earth.[1]"


Oh and looky here! The A-2 a commercial hypersonic plane.  So it goes public when its ready for consumers, I see how this works...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8gcPNHTKAM&feature=player_embedded
available to take you around the world at hypersonic speeds in 25 years for the masses, probably available right now to the uber-elite.



can you imagine the martian 911?  ;)  :-\

Quadrillions of space dollars that the new world order can create through terraforming a whole planet! Think about that, all of the new real estate alone.  Plus they can start over exactly the way they need it to begin to have an uber-neofeudal extraterrestrial experience.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_tourism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_trade#A_motivator_for_colonization_of_Mars

Oh for crying out loud! Are we going to see "freetrade" on Mars?  A Martian Trade Organization? Or will it more be like a Galactic Trade Organization from now on?  So if this is beyond singular Globalization, is this galacticization or what??  Will the sweat shops be on Mars or Earth? Will Mars be the utopia for the Rich or will there be slums and poverty like in Total Recall?


Lunar Government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Government
'The idea of a lunar government is based on established theories of a world government on Earth. With existing plans for lunar bases present in European, American, Russian, Japanese, Chinese and Indian mid- to long-term space goals, the prospects of having a sizable lunar research community on both the relatively flat near side and the Radio-sheltered far side is a less distant prospect."

Moon treaty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Government
"The Agreement Governing the Activities of States on the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies,[1] better known as the Moon Treaty or Moon Agreement, is an international treaty that turns jurisdiction of all heavenly bodies (including the orbits around such bodies) over to the international community. Thus, all activities must conform to international law (notably this includes the UN Charter)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Lunar_X_PRIZE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Constellation
"Constellation is a NASA program with the stated goal of gaining significant experience in operating away from Earth's environment, developing technologies needed for opening the space frontier and conducting fundamental science.[1] Constellation was developed through the Exploration Systems Architecture Study, which determined the best way for NASA to pursue the goals laid out in President George W. Bush's Vision for Space Exploration and the NASA Authorization Act of 2005."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Authorization_Act_of_2005
The NASA Authorization Act of 2005 or Vision for Space Exploration is the United States space policy announced on January 14, 2004 by the then U.S. President George W. Bush. It is seen as a response to the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, the state of human spaceflight at NASA, and a way to regain public enthusiasm for space exploration.

The Vision calls for the space program to:
    * Complete the International Space Station by 2010
    * Retire the Space Shuttle by 2010
    * Develop the Orion spacecraft (formerly known as the Crew Exploration Vehicle) by 2008, and conduct its first human spaceflight mission by 2014
    * Develop Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles
    * Explore the Moon with robotic spacecraft missions by 2008 and crewed missions by 2020
    * Explore Mars and other destinations with robotic and crewed missions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_outpost_(NASA)

"The Lunar outpost will be an inhabited facility on the surface of the Moon which NASA currently plans to construct over the five years between 2019 and 2024. The United States Congress has directed that the U.S. portion, "shall be designated the Neil A. Armstrong Lunar Outpost".  On December 4, 2006, NASA announced the conclusion of its Global Exploration Strategy and Lunar Architecture Study.[2] The Lunar Architecture Study's purpose was to "define a series of lunar missions constituting NASA's Lunar campaign to fulfill the Lunar Exploration elements" of the Vision for Space Exploration.[3] What resulted was a basic plan for a lunar outpost near one of the poles of the Moon, which would permanently house astronauts in six-month shifts, similar to the crew rotation aboard the International Space Station."


*GASPS* I was right! you CAN grow weed on the Moon!  Haha it would be SO expensive up there! You cannot smuggle it in!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(spacecraft)

"Each Orion spacecraft will carry a crew of four to six astronauts, and will be launched by the Ares I, a launch vehicle also currently under development. Both Orion and Ares I are elements of NASA's Project Constellation, which plans to send human explorers back to the Moon by 2020, and then onward to Mars and other destinations in the Solar System.[1][2] On August 31, 2006, NASA awarded Lockheed Martin (LM) the contract to design, develop, and build Orion.[3]"

"Under the rest of Stage I, the Shuttle would be retired as soon as possible after completing the "U.S. Core Complete" configuration of the International Space Station, an option that also appears to have gained support within NASA and the Bush administration."


"On January 14, 2004, President George W. Bush announced the Orion spacecraft, known then as the Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV), as part of the Vision for Space Exploration"





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(spacecraft)

And then this, the Altair Lander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_(spacecraft)





Hmm so if they are really 30 years ahead of us, we might possibly already have bases on mars.  The US could have just kept this real space program secret after Nixon cut the budget and grounded the Moon rocket fleet and liquidated the factories.  Who knows really! The pentagon gets alooot of money and we are always in the dark when it comes to knowing what its being spent  on. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_the_Moon



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Mars

Reminds me of Brave New World or a stereotypical futuristic scientific dystopia.  I can see why the elite would like a space program, wipe out the earth and start over neo feudal on terraformed Mars.

We can pave over slums of mars with these Israeli remote control robotic armored bulldozers.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/31/idf_robot_d9_revelations/

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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2009, 12:54:06 pm »
So you did not read "Pentagon Aliens"?

No!!!  Give me more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Alex Jones Mentioning Space Planes
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2009, 04:16:09 pm »
No!!!  Give me more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From the publsihers of the BlackJack webcomic, telegraph.co.uk delivers again!

Oh btw heres Blackjack part 4 and 5
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4590866/Blackjack---Part-4.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4613223/Blackjack---Part-5.html

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2461306/Aliens-are-out-there-says-former-Nasa-astronaut.htmlwww.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2461306/Aliens-are-out-there-says-former-Nasa-astronaut.html

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Aliens are out there, says former Nasa astronaut
A Nasa astronaut who has walked on the moon has claimed that UFOs are real and aliens have visited the earth.
 

By Laura Clout
Last Updated: 9:02AM BST 26 Jul 2008

Although there is no shortage of subscribers to theories that 'we are not alone’, the fact that Edgar Mitchell, who holds the joint record for the longest moon walk, is among them will come as a surprise to many.

Dr Mitchell, who holds two Bachelor of Science degrees and a doctorate in aeronautics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, made his comments during an interview with a UK radio station this week.

Asked whether he believed there was life on other planets, he replied: “Oh yes. There’s not much question at all that there is life throughout the universe. I’m totally sure we are not alone.”

The presenter for Birmingham-based Kerrang! Radio could be heard to inhale sharply, before Dr Mitchell continued that he had intelligence “that we have been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomenon is real - though it’s been covered up by governments for the last 60 years or so.”

Dr Mitchell spent nine hours on the moon on February 9 1971 as part of the Apollo 14 mission.

Although he has referred to the existence of extra-terrestrial before, this is the first time the former astronaut has given so much detail about his beliefs.

In a statement, Nasa said: “Nasa does not track UFOs. Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinion on this issue.”

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Re: Alex talking about the Space Planes
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2009, 04:28:14 pm »
Electrostatic propulsion... guy in the 50's had a flying saucer that went 900 miles an hour along a track.

Yup yup.