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Title: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 01, 2009, 02:10:40 pm
We Wish This Was an April Fool's Joke

By Jeff Woods in Legislature, Woods
Wednesday, Apr. 1 2009 @ 12:34PM

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2009/04/t.php
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When the police state comes (and you know it will), don't let this guy take your gun.


Rep. Stacey Campfield's guns-on-campuses bill just died in a House subcommittee. No one would second the motion to consider it. OK, that's a setback for the Second Amendment. But don't despair. The subcommittee adopted another fine piece of legislation to bar the government from confiscating our weapons during martial law. It's one of those just-in-case bills, but you can never be too cautious when it comes to your personal arsenal.

The sponsor, House Republican caucus chair Glen Casada, explained martial law might be declared "by the governor, president or somebody like that" usually at a time of "invasion or civil unrest."

"I'm a firm believer that an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure," Casada told the subcommittee. "Obviously, things are bad under martial law, and we'd need our weapons to protect ourselves."



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Rep. Glen Casada (R-TN 63rd District)
5th term Republican from Tennessee 63rd District.
http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h63.html

Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Dig on April 01, 2009, 02:16:24 pm
We Wish This Was an April Fool's Joke

By Jeff Woods in Legislature, Woods
Wednesday, Apr. 1 2009 @ 12:34PM

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2009/04/t.php
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When the police state comes (and you know it will), don't let this guy take your gun.


Rep. Stacey Campfield's guns-on-campuses bill just died in a House subcommittee. No one would second the motion to consider it. OK, that's a setback for the Second Amendment. But don't despair. The subcommittee adopted another fine piece of legislation to bar the government from confiscating our weapons during martial law. It's one of those just-in-case bills, but you can never be too cautious when it comes to your personal arsenal.

The sponsor, House Republican caucus chair Glen Casada, explained martial law might be declared "by the governor, president or somebody like that" usually at a time of "invasion or civil unrest."

"I'm a firm believer that an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure," Casada told the subcommittee. "Obviously, things are bad under martial law, and we'd need our weapons to protect ourselves."



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Rep. Glen Casada (R-TN 63rd District)
5th term Republican from Tennessee 63rd District.
http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h63.html



the writer wishes this was an april fool's joke?

has he been living under a rock?

it is a bit ridiculus that we need bills to enforce the "law of the land" the constitution, but awareness is important and hopefully this will wake people up.
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 01, 2009, 02:23:17 pm
the writer wishes this was an april fool's joke?

has he been living under a rock?

it is a bit ridiculus that we need bills to enforce the "law of the land" the constitution, but awareness is important and hopefully this will wake people up.

Yup lol.. I was set back by the title of the story too..

He pretty much broke the story to the world and didn't even know it lol  :D
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 01, 2009, 02:29:06 pm
Can anyone find the footage?
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: jflack on April 01, 2009, 02:39:01 pm
This guy also sponsored legislation to eliminate the fingerprint rule for buying guns in TN.

http://www.glencasada.com/readnews.php?newsitem=56
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 01, 2009, 03:46:55 pm
http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB1778

*HB 1778 by *Casada ( SB 1992 by *Johnson)
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Firearms and Ammunition - As introduced, prohibits confiscations of lawfully possessed firearms and ammunition during periods of martial rule; clarifies firearm and ammunition restriction prohibitions during any state of emergency, major disaster, or natural disaster. - Amends TCA Title 58, Chapter 1, Part 1 and Title 58, Chapter 2, Part 1.
Bill Summary
Summary for *HB 1778/SB 1992
Fiscal Note
FiscalNote for HB1778 / SB1992 filed under HB1778
Votes
House Votes on HB1778
No Senate Votes on SB1992
Bill HistoryAmendments on BillVideo Clips
Bill History
Actions Taken on HB1778   Action Date
Placed on cal. Judiciary Committee for 04/08/2009   04/01/2009
Rec. For Pass. by s/c ref. to Judiciary Committee    04/01/2009
Placed on s/c cal Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD for 04/01/2009   03/25/2009
Assigned to s/c Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD   03/02/2009
P2C, ref. to Judiciary   02/26/2009
Intro., P1C.   02/25/2009
Filed for intro.   02/23/2009
   
Actions Taken on SB1992   Action Date
P2C, ref. to S. Jud Comm.   02/26/2009
Intro., P1C.   02/25/2009
Filed for intro.   02/23/2009






Bill Summary
          HB1778 by Casada - CRIMINAL PRACTICE AND PROCEDURE OF JUD:
Recommended for passage - refer to: Judiciary Committee 4/1/2009
          Voice Vote - Ayes Prevail
http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/BillVotesArchive.aspx?ChamberVoting=H&BillNumber=HB1778&ga=106




Found the video can anyone get this on youtube pls..


House-Judiciary-Criminal Practice and Procedure     
Apr 1, 2009     00h 56m     Agenda     Video
Item:     HB1778

http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=78&clip_id=937





Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 01, 2009, 04:16:10 pm
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Rep. Glen Casada (R-TN 63rd District)
5th term Republican from Tennessee 63rd District.

4893 Bethesda-Duplex Road
College Grove, TN 37046
Phone (615) 595-8759
nashville address

112 War Memorial Bldg.
Nashville, TN 37243-0163
Phone (615) 741-4389
[email protected]
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: motherpuncher22 on April 01, 2009, 05:01:53 pm
good job electing this guy, wish there were more like him
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: chris jones on April 02, 2009, 07:35:56 am
good job electing this guy, wish there were more like him

Bump..........
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 02, 2009, 08:15:39 pm
Related Article:


DHS, Military Police, Law Enforcement Plan Checkpoint in Tennessee


Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
April 2, 2009

An Infowars reader has sent a page taken from the Hardeman County, Tennessee, Bulletin Times announcing a seat belt checkpoint to be conducted on April 4 “in conjunction with a Homeland Security training exercise by the 251st Military Police in Bolivar who recently returned from Iraq.


Read full story...
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-military-police-law-enforcement-plan-checkpoint-in-tennessee/
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 02, 2009, 08:45:48 pm
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Gunning for Votes; Voting for Gunners

http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/humphrey/2009/04/gunning-for-votes-voting-for-g.html

By Tom Humphrey

April 1, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Pro-gun bills generally advanced in legislative doings today - notable examples including measures to make secret the list of folks who have handgun carry permits and to declare that guns cannot be seized even in periods of martial law.

But there was an exception: Rep. Stacey Campfield's two bills let more people pack a pistol on college and university campuses. Those died in a House subcommittee with two of his Republican colleagues sitting on their hands and refusing to second a motion for passage.

The notion of sealing permit-holder records, by the way, is a legitimate policy issue. One can reasonably argue both sides (my inclination is to leave them as open records), The martial law bill (HB1778), pushed by House Republican Caucus Chairman Glen Casada, comes across as meaningless and inconsequential - albeit harmless - grandstanding.

As Casada explained to the sub, the Legislature last year passed a bill declaring that the governor cannot seize guns during a "state of emergency." OK, fine. A state of emergency is, for example, when a tornado blew through and caused a lot of damage.

But they regretfully forgot about "martial law" situations. Meaning a governor - or the president or whoever - could still take a gun away from someone if there's martial law in place.

Actually, when martial law is imposed, things have really gotten really, really bad -- we're talking Civil War occupation situation -- and the military is in control of everything, with basic rights suspended. In such a dramatic situation, an Army officer can order a city evacuated, homes destroyed, people arrested without the "probable cause" required under normal constitutional situations, and so on.

So, if Gen. Smith tells me to give him my rifle under martial law, is it going to matter if I say, "No. Thanks to the Tennessee General Assembly, I don't have to do so and refuse." It is submitted that such an occurrence is unlikely. But it sounds good, politically, and is inconsequential. So why not?

The Campfield bills, in contrast, are like the secret record stuff. They present legitimate and debatable policy issues. Remember Virginia Tech?

Trouble is, there wasn't much debate.

In reporter mode, yours truly decided to the high-interest thing was a confrontation between Campfield and the UT Knoxville police chief. This is what was sent along to editors, who may have had to trim for space reasons:

*Rep. Stacey Campfield's two "guns on campus" bills failed in a subcommittee Wednesday, setting up a hallway confrontation between the lawmaker and University of Tennessee Police Chief August Washington.

Washington was on hand to testify against the bills. As it turned out, the measures failed before he was called upon to speak because no member of the subcommittee would make the necessary seconding motion for a vote on the bill.

Both Campfield and Washington were interviewed afterwards by reporters in the hallway outside the committee room and they wound up in a brief confrontation.

"UT can't protect people on campus and they don't want people to protect themselves," Campfield said.

"That's not right," said Washington, also interviewed afterwards.

The Knoxville Republican legislator gave reporters copies of an email that he said illustrates how UT police cannot adequately protect people.

The email describes two men following a woman "Law School staff member" after she spotted them "behaving suspiciously" at Volunteer Hall Parking Garage. She got into the Law School building before the men reached her, the email says.

Washington said he was not familiar with the incident, but the campus is actually growing safer while "bringing in another big group of people carrying guns" would "make campus a lot more unsafe."

UT Police are in the process of obtaining full law enforcement accreditation, Washington said. UT Police Capt. Keith Lambert, who accompanied Washington, said "crimes against people" declined 42 percent on campus from 2007 to 2008 while property crimes were down 29 percent.

The only increase in crime reports, Lambert said, came in "officer-initiated" arrests, as in cases of drunken driving and drug possession.

One of Campfield's bills, Washington said, would have allowed "18-year-old kids with no training" to carry weapons on campus. He referred to a measure dealing with persons involved in the military, including ROTC cadets.

Campfield responded that Washington was wrong because gun-carrying priviledges are otherwise limited to persons aged 21 or over.

Campfield said he was "disheartened" with defeat of the bills in the House Criminal Practice Subcommittee, which has an even partisan balance - three Republicans and three Democrats. Rep. Judd Matheney, R-Tullahoma, made a motion for passage as required by parliamentary rules. But no one made the required "seconding" motion.

One of the bills, HB798, would have allowed full-time faculty and staff members who hold handgun carry permits to take their weapons on campus. The other, HB823, would have allowed active or former law enforcement officers and former or active military personnel, including Reserve Officer Training Corps cadets, to carry guns on campuses.*




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Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 02, 2009, 09:49:39 pm
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http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/106/Fiscal/HB1778.pdf
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 03, 2009, 12:56:29 am
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Capitol Hill Review
April 2, 2009

by Rep. Eric Watson

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_148165.asp

"Lawmakers continued their discussion of several pieces of gun legislation this week.."

"House Bill 1778 would prohibit lawfully possessed firearms from being confiscated during periods of martial rule. The measure passed out of the Criminal Practice and Procedure Subcommittee this week. House Republicans fought for legislation that was eventually signed into law that prohibited any government agency from regulating the lawful sale, possession, transfer, transport and carry of firearms during a state of emergency. "

House Bill 1778 would build on that provision, and will now face the full Judiciary Committee."
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: DireWolf on April 03, 2009, 06:31:39 pm
I am somewhat confused. Though I applaud those efforts to safeguard our rights, especially the Second Amendment, but doesn't the fact that Martial Law being declared negates the very premise of a Constitution and rights in general? If there is no Constitution when martial law is implemented how is it that any bill passed into law or otherwise enacted is going to be effective? Given this train of thought I am suspicious of such doings as being not much more than a case of showmanship.
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: motherpuncher22 on April 03, 2009, 06:38:25 pm
Not only a case of showmanship, but why do they feel it is necessary to get these laws passed? What do they know that is not being told to us? Do they know of an upcoming event that will lead to martial law or are they just connecting the dots like we are? maybe this should be considered another piece to the puzzle.
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 08, 2009, 04:19:55 pm
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There's no way they're letting this guy keep his guns.

Tennessee Legislature Continues Its Preparations for the End of Days

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2009/04/legislature_continues_its_prep.php

By Jeff Woods in Legislature, Woods

Wednesday, Apr. 8 2009 @ 12:37PM

OK, this is one of those Twilight Zone moments at Legislative Plaza when you find yourself wondering if you're losing your mind. Can I be the only one who thinks it's really psycho to pass a law barring confiscation of weapons under martial law? This bill by House GOP caucus chair Glen Casada keeps rolling through the committee system with unanimous votes, and no one yet has asked Casada the obvious question: Are you completely unhinged? Instead, they all nod knowingly as he gives his one-sentence explanation for his bill and then they vote for it as if there never could have been any doubt about their support for such a commonsense idea.

"This bill as proposed would allow us to keep our firearms under martial law," Casada told the House Judiciary Committee this morning.

Rep. Henry Fincher, D-Cookeville, did ask one question.

"I'm for the bill. You know I'm pro gun. I'm against confiscation. If you need a gun it's going to be during a period that martial law is breaking out and things are going to pieces. But the way I understand martial law is that it suspends all other laws. So wouldn't it also suspend this?"

"That is the point that's never been clarified in court," Casada replied. "And so we as law-abiding citizens could say, 'So Mr. executive, governor, president, whoever, sorry you can't take my personal weapons.' Granted it's to be fought in court someday, but we're taking a stance."

"OK," Fincher said. "I was just curious." Then the bill passed unanimously. I think I'm going to Brandon's early today.
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Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 20, 2009, 07:43:20 pm
THE LATEST ON (BILL HB1778)

HOUSE APPROVES 88-4.. GOES TO SENATE.





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Keep Your Guns During Martial Rule, Says House

by Tom Humphrey

April 20, 2009 at 6:06 PM


http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/humphrey/2009/04/keep-your-guns-during-martial.html

The House approved 88-4 Monday night a bill that declares the guns of Tennesseans cannot be seized during periods of martial rule.


The bill (HB1778) by House Republican Caucus Chairman Glen Casada prompted a bit of discussion, including House Democratic Caucus Chairman Mike Turner noting the bill would not apply in cases of the federal government declaring martial law.

Casada said it would apply when a governor declares "martial rule." He said that occurred in 1835, when the governor ordered guns seized in Maury County.

The bill now goes to the Senate, where it is sponsored by Sen. Jack Johnson.
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: plantop14 on April 20, 2009, 07:54:19 pm
I thought martial law was the removal of all freedoms? Don't get me wrong, it's good they declare it but it's like all the bad shit we hear daily, it's just ink on a piece of paper, that's all it is!!!!
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on April 20, 2009, 07:57:50 pm
I thought martial law was the removal of all freedoms? Don't get me wrong, it's good they declare it but it's like all the bad shit we hear daily, it's just ink on a piece of paper, that's all it is!!!!

Ya I know what you mean.. What the heck good is a Law when it's Martial Law time.. lol

But it defiantly sends a message don't it. 88-4..
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: plantop14 on April 20, 2009, 08:06:01 pm
Ya I know what you mean.. What the heck good is a Law when it's Martial Law time.. lol

But it defiantly sends a message don't it. 88-4..
Yeah I guess but it's like the bad shit these assholes right up day in and day out, it's just words, in ink on paper!
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: luckee1 on April 20, 2009, 08:16:42 pm
All that was to distract us from the bill HJR 108 they still have not passed they shelved it (yet again) and It is supposed to be on the calendar for tomorrow, but It is not there.  HJR 108  is the bill to reaffirm the State Constition, 10th Amendment.  It is an attention bait and switch. 

If the HJR 108 passes then the state will be sovereign and our gun laws will stand.  It is a waffle.
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on May 06, 2009, 06:38:53 pm
Bill Would Prevent Federal Government from Regulating Firearms in TN


John Dunn
WZTV Fox 17
May 6, 2009

http://www.infowars.com/bill-would-prevent-federal-government-from-regulating-firearms-in-tn/


Tennessee lawmakers may soon send the federal government a loud message — hands off our guns.

A new law is under consideration that would say if firearms are manufactured and sold inside the state of Tennessee, federal gun law would not apply.

Visit any gun store right now, and youll hear the same story.

Gun buyers are stocking up on weapons, and ammunition is in short supply.

“It is a very significant fear for a lot of Tennesseans,” says John Harris, Executive Director of the Tennessee Firearms Association

Harris says gun owners are worried. They believe the Federal government may soon restrict certain weapons.

“But it’s our way to make a statement to say this is Tennessee. These our are guns,” says Rep. Henry Fincher, (D) Cookeville.

Now, lawmakers have proposed a new bill called the Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act.
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Ghost in the Machine on May 06, 2009, 06:50:50 pm
we should all be able to carry guns on us at all times loaded with armor piercing rounds jsut in case some al quada tried someting lol...
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Gandalf on May 06, 2009, 06:51:27 pm
how about a bill to ban martial law?
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: luckee1 on May 07, 2009, 03:46:21 pm
how about a bill to ban martial law?

 :D
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: JonTheSavage on May 24, 2009, 01:36:45 am
Martial law is the time when you load the FMJ's and start shredding body armor ......Of the invading foreign army  >:(

With Obama's new brigades wearing red coats, I can just imagine Alex screaming on the air, the British are coming. The British are coming.

Damned red coats.
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: luckee1 on May 24, 2009, 07:39:35 am
I am glad someone else noticed that.   :D
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: JonTheSavage on May 24, 2009, 04:04:43 pm
I'd like to state this for the record as well. The cops around here, won't go along with it, neither will the local guard. Endgame has been passing around here, as well as Obama Deception. The Ex-Cops here sure as hell won't go along with it. If they decide to invade this town, it is a reality, that the people from the county will come in, and fight, there is no doubt about it. We may have the most corrupt politics in the state, but the people are well-damned armed, and they won't give up their guns for anything. My 83 year old grandmother, God rest her soul, was even armed, and a dang good shot. The kids here, that are country raised, are armed. Its still the good ole days around here, and everybody wants it that way.

Every time some shit is stirred in the kettle, and some political f**k-tard does something he is not supposed
to do, there is an outrage. %80 of the town voted for McCain. They voted for him because they are mislead,
not really dumb. If they knew he advocated the things he does, then they would not have voted for him. I
strongly believe that small-town America is the same way throughout the country.

THIS is why the NWO is scared to death.

More than likely, what you will see, in a SHTF scenerio, is UN, or USNorthcom on the streets, which is a FOREIGN INVADING FORCE, and there is NO LAW by God, or man, that says I can't defend my family against them. On the Record, I'd like it to be stated that I would be FULLY WITHIN STATE LAW to engage such an enemy. So let it be written, so let it be done.

You know what as well? Let the feds spy on this board. Let them. Let them know what they can't do. I'm not scared to speak out. I do not fear them. I fear God's wrath for NOT speaking out.

I'd also like to state that we NEED another 1776. Its time for a Revolution. Its time to topple the bankers the same way Iceland did. If they send their mercs, then let it be done, they'll get a fight, and we'll kick their ass! We are LONG overdue for a Revolution. Before we have one though, we have to WAKE PEOPLE UP. There is no stronger force in the world than the American people pissed-the-hell off.

Look at 911, the country was ready to topple whoever did it. Now you get THAT kind of force stirred up against this criminal cartel. They would be strung up OVERNIGHT.

In the Infowar, the Media is our target. They must fall, they most loose all their audience. We must NOT let the NWO run the minds of the American people.

If you feel that the NWO can't be beaten, or if you feel sympathy, or apathetic, just know that if you get off your ass, and put 100 Endgame DVDs on car windshields at your local wal-mart, then you have MADE an impact. At least 1 of those people will follow in your footsteps, and hand out 100, maybe 100,000 more. MAKE IT VIRAL.

I will die fighting them. I don't expect to live to see 50 or 60.

When you are an old man, and you are enslaved, and on your death bed, I want you to look back and think, I should have given it all up, just for ONE chance, ONE chance to come back here, this year, and know that you should have done EVERYTHING within your power to topple them.

LIVE FREE OR DIE!
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: cloudwilliam on September 06, 2009, 02:20:57 pm
people need to wake up and get serious
 they are not willing to follow the Law of the Land ( the US CONSTITUTION )

what makes anyone think these little bills will be given any regard whatsoever?

when they come for my Guns they better have made their peace , and pray God shows them mercy,  because I will not.
Title: Re: Bill would ban weapons confiscation during martial law.
Post by: Gandalf on September 08, 2009, 08:58:48 am
Here the Guard will do whatever they're told. Some homeschoolers here failed boot camp because they would ask why when given an order ...