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Globalization and the plan for New Word Order => Bilderberg 2016 and previous Bilderberg Meetings => Evidence that the NWO is losing their cool and people are waking up => Topic started by: TBPauly on March 11, 2009, 09:16:05 pm

Title: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TBPauly on March 11, 2009, 09:16:05 pm
I heard it...I don't believe it...but I heard it.

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/ (http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/)

This country is starting to resemble a line form "Springtime For Hitler" in "The Producers"....don't be stupid, be a smartie, come and join the Nazi Party.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: TBPauly on March 11, 2009, 09:21:14 pm
Alex is on talking about this with Bermas right now...
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: TheJudge on March 11, 2009, 09:22:54 pm
Can you read the thumbnails in the article ??? I cannot....Why is something not more legible posted in the article...Really infuriating!!!!
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Freebird100 on March 11, 2009, 09:34:15 pm
Can you read the thumbnails in the article ??? I cannot....Why is something not more legible posted in the article...Really infuriating!!!!
Click on the thumbnails twice,they enlarge.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: TBPauly on March 11, 2009, 09:34:42 pm
Clicking on the thumbnails enlarges them... reading through them now.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: kevlar442 on March 11, 2009, 09:44:24 pm
Yeah this is pretty [email protected]#$ed up.  Supporters of a sitting U.S. congressman are terrorists?  It is so on.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: TBPauly on March 11, 2009, 09:45:46 pm
Someone should ask these goons....if we can't support Bob Barr, Ron Paul, et al, who are we supposed to support?  Lord Obama?  The Republican SS?
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: TBPauly on March 11, 2009, 09:48:05 pm
AJ's ranting and raving now...hopefully someone's rolling tape on PPTV
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Freebird100 on March 11, 2009, 09:51:08 pm
It`s all becoming pretty clear to what`s going on.Let`s hope the patriots in the military and law enforcement step up to the plate.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: disinfomang on March 11, 2009, 09:54:22 pm
Some of the documents looked so badly photoshopped and poorly written that it's hard to believe their authenticity. Couldn't find any place called the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) on google but I did find the Missouri Statistical Analysis center. Could be real. Looks fake in some parts to me, though.

Glad I don't live in Missouri.

Read the linked site, now it makes sense. Oh, well.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: TBPauly on March 11, 2009, 10:01:59 pm
If this can happen in one state, it can happen in other states.  And if it happens to politicans....who will they come after next...talk show hosts?

As Alex would say, do you understand me?
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: peepnklown on March 11, 2009, 10:41:36 pm
I’m a what?     
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Unintelligable Name on March 11, 2009, 10:43:55 pm
These documents are incredible!

http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0022.jpg

Fema camps -- the NWO -- gun confiscation.

They really did their homework on what the militia is against.

They spelt "Martial" like "Mashal" lol.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: xTruthSeekerx on March 11, 2009, 10:47:48 pm
least mssouri has good gun laws
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Unintelligable Name on March 11, 2009, 10:48:29 pm
"It was during this timeframe that many individuals and organizations began to concoct conpiracy theories to explain their misfortunes. These theories varied but almost always involved a globalist dictatorship the "New World ORder (NWO)", which conspired to exploit the working class citizen. United Nations troops were thought to already be operating in the United States in support of the NWO. Much of this rhetoric would become anti-Semitic claiming that Jews controlled the monetary system and media, and in turn the "Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)". The Militia of Montana (MOM) became a key organization in pushing rightwing rhetoric and informing individuals on how to form militia organizations."

Spooky -- it really is an inforwar folks.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: disinfomang on March 11, 2009, 10:52:20 pm
Sounds like these people also have the internet. Very well written summary of conspiracy theory in America in general.

Tax dollars actually accomplishing something?
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Unintelligable Name on March 11, 2009, 11:03:16 pm
They make the whole concept appear to be only the ramblings of pissed off white supremicists.

How predictable...
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: trailhound on March 11, 2009, 11:15:20 pm
Quote
Some of the documents looked so badly photoshopped and poorly written that it's hard to believe their authenticity. Couldn't find any place called the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) on google

here it is

http://www.miacx.org/(X(1)S(1zgdew45tr43l4erew1ntqmf))/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: disinfomang on March 11, 2009, 11:35:08 pm
Yes I realized my folly when I saw it plainly in the article but thank you. Interesting that google couldn't sniff it out though...
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: TheJudge on March 12, 2009, 09:12:06 am
Click on the thumbnails twice,they enlarge.

I have clicked on the thumbnails and they have enlaged, however, the documents are still not legible on my screen...
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 12, 2009, 09:22:21 am
Someone should ask these goons....if we can't support Bob Barr, Ron Paul, et al, who are we supposed to support?

These psychopathic, America (http://www.fff.org/freedom/1095c.asp)-hating control-freaks would probably accuse you of being a "terrorist" just for asking that question!  ::)

As a slave "civilian," you're allowed to do one thing and one thing only: lick boots.

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVRw79NmEq4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVRw79NmEq4)
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Freebird100 on March 12, 2009, 10:21:01 am
Can anyone autheticate this document?

It might be a good idea before you go sceaming from the rooftops about it.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: ramallamamama on March 12, 2009, 10:28:21 am
Can anyone autheticate this document?

It might be a good idea before you go sceaming from the rooftops about it.

The gang over at ronpaulforums have been going ballistic on this topic.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=183388&page=8 (post #79)

Quote from: acptulsa
I just called the number listed for Capt. Hull on that official website and had the authenticity and text of that memo confirmed. I spoke to Lt. John Hotz.

This was not the toll-free number. I dialed (573) 526-6115. He confirmed that his department did issue such a memo on 2/20 and quoted me the part of the memo that mentions Ron Paul. It matched what we see.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: TBPauly on March 12, 2009, 10:34:28 am
I'm hoping Alex or Bermas can get Ron Paul or some of these other third-party candidates on for an interview.  Gotta spread the outrage...
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: ramallamamama on March 12, 2009, 10:41:43 am
It's friggin unbelievable. Libelous even. RP's attorney should be all over this.

I hope there are no incidents between trigger happy MO cops and patriot, concealed carry permit holders.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: ramallamamama on March 12, 2009, 10:42:37 am
bump
Title: Secret State Police Report
Post by: Kain on March 12, 2009, 10:53:56 am
Sorry if there is a topic on this already, didn't see one in my brief perusal. If so, combine them please.

Did anyone else find this a bit... disturbing?

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

So if you supported Ron Paul, or are a Libertarian, or have a Gadsden flag, or a copy of Freedom to Facism, you are a terrorist. Holy crap, half the people I know must be terrorists! What do I do? Whom do I turn them in to for a reward and a nice pat on the head?

This report creates an 'us and them' mentality with Missouri police officers, and makes them think anyone with freedom leaning views sees them as an enemy and is out to get them. The state did it's propaganda well.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report
Post by: xTruthSeekerx on March 12, 2009, 10:55:12 am
Missouri has good gun laws i smell an agenda there
by good i mean free state
Title: How can we verify/source this info?
Post by: ENDG4M3 on March 12, 2009, 11:11:59 am
This is huge. Can anyone contact the emails listed on the back of this flyer and verify that its correct?

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0024.jpg
Title: Re: How can we verify/source this info?
Post by: ramallamamama on March 12, 2009, 11:15:00 am
This is huge. Can anyone contact the emails listed on the back of this flyer and verify that its correct?

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0024.jpg
The community at Liberty Forest confirmed it by the 8th page of the thread.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=183388
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: ENDG4M3 on March 12, 2009, 11:16:30 am
This needs to be verified!!

There are emails on the back page, can someone contact them and verify this document?

http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0024.jpg
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Dig on March 12, 2009, 11:18:13 am
Secret State Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists
http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 11, 2009

Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer.


The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

“Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner,” explains the MIAC website. “MIAC is the mechanism to collect incident reports of suspicious activities to be evaluated and analyzed in an effort to identify potential trends or patterns of terrorist or criminal operations within the state of Missouri. MIAC will also function as a vehicle for two-way communication between federal, state and local law enforcement community within our region.”

MIAC is part of the federal “fusion” effort now underway around the country. “As of February 2009, there were 58 fusion centers around the country. The Department has deployed 31 officers as of December 2008 and plans to have 70 professionals deployed by the end of 2009. The Department has provided more than $254 million from FY 2004-2007 to state and local governments to support the centers,” explains the Department of Homeland Security on its website. Missouri is mentioned as a participant in this federal “intelligence” effort.

Last month, the ACLU issued a news release highlighting the activity of a fusion center in Texas as the “latest example of inappropriate police intelligence operations targeting political, religious and social activists for investigation,” in particular “Muslim civil rights organizations and anti-war protest groups.”

The MIAC report does not concentrate on Muslim terrorists, but rather on the so-called “militia movement” and conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order. The MIAC document is a classic guilt by association effort designed to demonize legitimate political activity that stands in opposition to the New World Order and its newly enshrined front man, Barack Obama.

In September of 2008, Missouri sheriffs and prosecutors organized truth squads to intimidate people opposed to Obama and threatened to arrest and prosecute anybody who ran “misleading television ads.” Missouri governor Matt Blunt eventually denounced the use of “police state tactics” on the part of the Obama-Biden campaign.

MIAC claims members of a “rightwing” militia movement organized in the 1990s — generally in response to the Oklahoma City bombing and the events at Waco — “continuously exploit world events in order to increase participation in their movements. Due to the current economical and political situation, a lush environment for militia activity has been created” and supposedly exploited by “constitutionalists” and “white supremacists,” the latter an oft-employed canard used to demonize activists as dangerous and potentially violent lunatics.

MIAC notes many of the political issues cited by the so-called patriot movement — the Ammunition Accountability Act, the impending economic collapse of the government, the possibility of a constitutional convention, the North American Union, Obama’s “Universal Service Program,” and the implementation of RFID, issues that are not limited to the patriot movement but are shared by a wide array of political activists.

The MIAC document includes a map of the North American Union not dissimilar from one released by NASCO, the North America SuperCorridor Coalition (see the NASCO map here).

The MIAC report is similar to one created by the Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Joint Terrorism Task Force during the Clinton administration (see page one and page two of the document). The FBI document explicitly designates “defenders” of the Constitution as “right-wing extremists.” The MIAC report expands significantly on the earlier document.

In order to artificially heighten the perceived threat threshold, MIAC rolls in Christian Identity, white nationalism, “militant” anti-abortion activists, opposition to illegal immigration, and income tax resistance. MIAC deceptively blurs the lines between these disparate political ideologies and underscores the possibility for violence in a summary of the organizational structure of the militia movement and a section describing how members strive to train in “combat readiness.”

The MIAC effort to characterize Libertarians and Constitutionalists as racists is reminiscent of an attempt by the corporate media in early 2008 to portray Ron Paul as a racist by attempting to link him to a series of vaguely racist newsletters produced in the 1980s. Paul did not exercise editorial control over the newsletters and went so far as to apologize for them, but this did not prevent the corporate media from characterizing him as a racist.

According to MIAC, opposition to world government, NAFTA, federalization of the states, and restrictive gun laws are a threat to the police. “The militia subscribes to an anti-government and NWO mindset, which creates a threat to law enforcement officers. They view the military, National Guard, and law enforcement as a force that will confiscate their firearms and place them in FEMA concentration camps,” the document claims in a section entitled “You are the Enemy.”

In regard to supposed militia movement literature and media, the MIAC report mentions Aaron Russo’s America: Freedom to Fascism and William Luther Pierce’s The Turner Diaries — the latter was penned by the former leader of the white nationalist organization National Alliance and the former by a Libertarian filmmaker. In order to underscore the absurdity of the MIAC attempt to link Pierce’s novel and Russo’s anti-tax documentary, it should be noted that the late Aaron Russo was Jewish and The Turner Dairies posits a Zionist government in America (or ZOG, the Zionist Occupation Government) run by Jews.

The award-winning film Zeitgeist, featuring Alex Jones, is also mentioned as terrorist material.

The MIAC report is particularly pernicious because it indoctrinates Missouri law enforcement in the belief that people who oppose confiscatory taxation, believe in the well-documented existence of a New World Order and world government (a Google search of this phrase will pull up numerous references made by scores of establishment political leaders), and are opposed to the obvious expansion of the federal government at the expense of the states as violent extremists who are gunning for the police. It specifically targets supporters of mainstream political candidates and encourages police officers to consider them dangerous terrorists.

MIAC is attempting to radicalize the police against political activity guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If Missouri police indoctrinated by MIAC propaganda overreact to political activists and supporters of Ron Paul in their state and injure or kill people involved in entirely legal and legitimate political activity, MIAC, the governor of Missouri (his name appears on the MIAC document), and the DHS and federal government should be held directly responsible and prosecuted the fullest extent of the law.
Title: Re: How can we verify/source this info?
Post by: Unintelligable Name on March 12, 2009, 11:20:15 am
This is huge. Can anyone contact the emails listed on the back of this flyer and verify that its correct?

Sounds like a bad idea to me. Does it look fake to you or something?
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: ramallamamama on March 12, 2009, 11:21:02 am
bump
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Dig on March 12, 2009, 11:23:17 am
www.dps.mo.gov/homelandsecurity/brochure.pdf

Also MAIC is real organization that has been around for a while: http://www.joplinindependent.com/display_article.php/hfoster1140294867
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Dig on March 12, 2009, 11:24:24 am
Gee let us see if any disinfo artists show up on this thread.

let the fly paper be laid out.

"These do not look credible"

"I cannot read them"

"They look photoshopped"

"The thumbnails don't work"

These guys will be the same to say:

"That train looks comfy, what is your problem?" 

"They want to separate us to protect us."

"Jesus told us to be obedient to the government"
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Kain on March 12, 2009, 11:25:47 am
What was really neat is that they lumped 'Christian Identity', 'White Nationalist', 'Sovereign Citizen', 'Militant Abortion', 'Tax Resistor', and 'Anti-Immigration' in all one lump sum of 'terrorist'

Sovereign Citizen eh...

Well, looks like most of the folks on this board are terrorists.

EGADS! I've been talking to terrorists! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

*runs and hides and calls the cops*

 ::)

And yes, morons, this is accurate. Call the # on the flyer if you think it's bogus.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Unintelligable Name on March 12, 2009, 11:29:00 am
What was really neat is that they lumped 'Christian Identity', 'White Nationalist', 'Sovereign Citizen', 'Militant Abortion', 'Tax Resistor', and 'Anti-Immigration' in all one lump sum of 'terrorist'

The more the merrier from their point of view. Might even just be "People with guns" pretty soon here.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Kain on March 12, 2009, 11:32:28 am
LOL! Alex just chewed people's asses on air about doubting the report and not doing their own research first before bitching about it. I love it. :D
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: ramallamamama on March 12, 2009, 11:33:12 am
Why do you all hate Obama so much?  ;)
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: KarnEvil9 on March 12, 2009, 11:33:38 am
I'm surprised they didn't include Kucinich on their list of so called "terrorist" politicians. After all, you must be with Al-CIAda if you want to know what criminals are doing with your blood money.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: ramallamamama on March 12, 2009, 11:34:40 am
I'm surprised they didn't include Kucinich on their list of so called "terrorist" politicians. After all, you must be with Al-CIAda if you want to know what criminals are doing with your blood money.
Because Kucinich endorsed Lord Obama.
Title: Re: How can we verify/source this info?
Post by: ENDG4M3 on March 12, 2009, 11:35:21 am
lol ... busted!

Sounds like a bad idea to me. Does it look fake to you or something?

No, it looks real to me... It just freaks me out, I'm in MO. I can see anyone with a Ron Paul sticker being labeled as a terrorist.

This document needs to go VIRAL = EVERYWHERE!!!

Screw contacting the State about this - I sure as hell am not going to be knocking on their doors! Contact everyone you know, including the National and Local Media!
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: KarnEvil9 on March 12, 2009, 04:42:18 pm
Because Kucinich endorsed Lord Obama.

Bingo.
But support of Lord-O doesn't guarantee security. Look at Hitler, Stalin. They executed staunch suppoters on a whim and a whisper. Will Dennis remain in favor indefinitely?
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: 911aware on March 12, 2009, 04:52:09 pm
i was given a public relations number to call..

it's been busy since i got hold of it...

573-526-6115
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Amd304912 on March 12, 2009, 04:53:55 pm
this is adl bullsh*t. Im not saying that this is at all propaganda, only that this sh*t comes from the adl.

http://www.vdare.com/walker/080220_adl.htm

Quote
The ADL is playing a dangerous game by siding with leftists and foreigners against America. The majority of citizens of all political stripes want immigration anarchy to end, and they don't consider themselves racist or mean for doing so.

The ADL depends upon having some semblance of an honorable reputation, at least among the left. It thinks it can attack "right-wing" friends of borders and sovereignty with impunity.

why does every group hijack anarchism?  >:(
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: ramallamamama on March 12, 2009, 11:57:07 am
I have respect for DK though much less when he sided with the usurping moor.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: nedc on March 12, 2009, 12:03:11 pm
I have clicked on the thumbnails and they have enlaged, however, the documents are still not legible on my screen...

If you have a scroll wheel on your mouse, hold down the ctrl key and scroll to reduce/enlarge.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Elvis on March 12, 2009, 12:12:15 pm
Information Analysis Centers

http://iac.dtic.mil/contact.html
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: KarnEvil9 on March 12, 2009, 12:21:49 pm
I have respect for DK though much less when he sided with the usurping moor.

I agree, and it makes me wonder if those politicians who choose to walk a tightrope between legitimate interests and those of the established order (in an attempt to remain in a position that allows them to be effective) are clutching at straws.
Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Cywar on March 12, 2009, 12:24:51 pm
Some of the documents looked so badly photoshopped and poorly written that it's hard to believe their authenticity. Couldn't find any place called the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) on google but I did find the Missouri Statistical Analysis center. Could be real. Looks fake in some parts to me, though.

Glad I don't live in Missouri.

Read the linked site, now it makes sense. Oh, well.

"Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner"

http://miacx.org/(X(1)S(yog4taquv0cb5f3hkg15hy45))/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

Title: Re: If You Support A Third Party, Paul, or Barr...you're a Terrorist in Mizzou
Post by: Cywar on March 12, 2009, 12:27:58 pm
Some of the documents looked so badly photoshopped and poorly written that it's hard to believe their authenticity. Couldn't find any place called the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) on google but I did find the Missouri Statistical Analysis center. Could be real. Looks fake in some parts to me, though.

Glad I don't live in Missouri.

Read the linked site, now it makes sense. Oh, well.

"Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner"

http://miacx.org/(X(1)S(yog4taquv0cb5f3hkg15hy45))/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 12, 2009, 12:37:33 pm
Secret State Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists
http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 11, 2009

Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer.

The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

I have a message for the authors and endorsers of that disgraceful report:

                              You are the "terrorists."

That's right. You're cowardly, psychopathic, parasitic, freedom-hating, anti-American  (http://www.fff.org/freedom/1095c.asp) terrorists. Every single one of you!
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Elvis on March 12, 2009, 01:03:51 pm
Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity on accused shooter's reading list

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/Jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/

You'd have to be dumber than three way to Sunday not to see what's going on.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: pulped82 on March 12, 2009, 05:36:27 pm
THIS MAKES ME SICK!!!!!  I'M NOT FEEL'N SO WELL,, I THINK I NEED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM AND MAKE A QUEEN ELIZABETH....
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Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: jflack on March 12, 2009, 09:04:44 pm
Can Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr and the Campaign for Liberty sue Missouri police or the Missouri Governor for defamation or anything else? 
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Dig on March 12, 2009, 09:48:58 pm
Did you read the 12/08 section of Page 6 about "anti New World Order rhetoric"?

WTF, it is like saying:

"Anyone who does not totally commit to intergeneration slavery for the next 1,000 years should be shot on sight.

These guys should not be sued, they should be in jail!
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: clearmyst on March 12, 2009, 09:52:12 pm
aaron russo would not have been surprised to see his film on the list >:(
then theres zeitgeist and the NWO association- you can bet everyone on this forum will be designated a terorists and put on a watch list if you are not already.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report
Post by: wvoutlaw2002 on March 12, 2009, 10:07:02 pm
Sorry if there is a topic on this already, didn't see one in my brief perusal. If so, combine them please.

Did anyone else find this a bit... disturbing?

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

So if you supported Ron Paul, or are a Libertarian, or have a Gadsden flag, or a copy of Freedom to Facism, you are a terrorist. Holy crap, half the people I know must be terrorists! What do I do? Whom do I turn them in to for a reward and a nice pat on the head?

This report creates an 'us and them' mentality with Missouri police officers, and makes them think anyone with freedom leaning views sees them as an enemy and is out to get them. The state did it's propaganda well.

I have AFTF, Endgame, Terrorstorm, Martial Law 9/11, Police State 3, Road to Tyranny, American Drug War, Loose Change, Fabled Enemies, and Truth Rising, so I must be a Tim Osman's "number 2". ;D

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/151007_distributing_dvds.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/051208_feds_accuse.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2006/260406likelyterrorists.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/310707coupleterrorized.htm

http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/cw_rushing_update.htm



Also trying to remember that story about that man whose house was raided because he had AJ videos.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: ENDG4M3 on March 12, 2009, 11:30:51 pm
I googled the phone number, and here's what I came up with. The people that claiming they've talked to Hull and Holtz are in fact listed as heads of the The Public Information and Education Division.

http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/PIED/index.html
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: donnay on March 13, 2009, 02:26:25 am
Here is more information from the Ron Paul forum to confirm Secret State Police memo:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=183583

March 12, 2009

-1.This all started for me today here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=183388

0. (Missouri Information Analysis Center) MIAC is a legitimate organization, to start. http://www.miacx.org/(X(1)S(snfe1o45...ookieSupport=1

1. Called the number on the flier for Missouri Information Analysis Center Phone number 573-751-5422 and was directed to their PR department.

2. They transfered me to 573-526-6115, which was busy. I called back 3 times before I got through to the secretary who took all of my information and said someone would call back. I told her if I heard nothing I would be required to pass this information along to the folks in Missouri who might be affected and to the media. She said she understood my concern.

3.I called back about 4 times and was met with a busy signal.

4. Approximately 4pm Press Releases sent out and copied to the emails listed on the flier. The emails did not bounce back, indicating they are legitimate emails. [email protected], [email protected]

5. About 3.5 hours after the first phone call I got a phone call from an officer Hotz of the state highway patrol who called me from 573-522-0000. He confirmed that they stand by everything in the memo, just not all the rumors on the internet. I had him repeat that he confirmed it about 5 times. He told me it was not sweeping everyone under that title, just noting TRENDS in militia members. He told me that the militia is a threat because officers have been killed by militia members.

6. Held a conference call and decided to A. try to get a state legislature to help us in some way. B. contact the governor and have him respond to the fact he met with homeland security with homeland security 2 days ago, at the very "fusion center" this document was leaked from (see number 8 below). 3. Attack this economically/financially by encouraging everyone attending the C4L conference to move their business to the IL side of the state line and contact the StL chamber of commerce, MO chamber of commerce, the hotel and the press declaring how they will not give their tourism dollars to such a state but STILL ATTEND THE CONFERENCE WITH THEIR PAUL/BALDWIN/BARR BUMPER STICKERS PROUDLY.

7. Someone was trying to disrupt the conference call the entire time - proof someone is trying to stop us from talking about this. They played what sounded like pornography in the background, pushed buttons repeatedly, made static noises, and I just kept telling them I loved them and that I was trying to keep their children from becoming slaves and that this petty disruption would not detract us.

My 7pm central radio show and my 8pm conference call are recorded on skype, so you can hear the detractors. http://www.restoretherepublicradio.com/Libert
y_Restoration_Hour_Liberty_Restoration_Hour__Show_ Six for the show.

8. The very agency, Missouri Information Analysis Center, a fusion center, was visited by Homeland Security and Governor Nixon on Wednesday March 11th. http://newstribune.com/articles/2009...te05fusion.txt

9. I called the KCPD to see if they could verify the memo 816-234-5510; they laughed at me and told me to call the FBI.

10. I called the FBI and she told me to go to my state legislature and hung up on me (after I asked many many questions) (816) 512-8200

11.I have returned calls to all 3 of the Jefferson City numbers I have listed above and was only able to leave message on the first, 573-751-5422, voicemail for Mike.

12. Huge conference held in KC talks about fusion centers and how local law enforcement is SPYING ON LOCAL CITIZENS: http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2009/03/...l_fusion_c.php

13. KC fusion center convention: http://www.iir.com/registration/fusi...a/agendaFC.pdf

That is all the information I have at this time, but I have no reason to beleive this is a hoax.

If you want to help with any of the strategy mentioned above in number 6, please email [email protected] I'm putting together teams for each goal right now and looking for other action items to take on.

peace, love and liberty,
Catherine

Catherine Bleish
executive director
Liberty Restoration Project
816-868-8806
[email protected]
www.libertyrestorationproject.org

Freedom reaches across party lines.

Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: DireWolf on March 13, 2009, 10:36:54 am
People are worried about the military acting as robot droids and should be as worried about the State Police doing the same especially when the leadership is putting forth disinformation bulletins such as this one we speak about.

I believe as in any organization there will be a line in the sand where the good men and women will not cross no mater the consequences.

In the coming weeks and months we will see an intensifying surge to demonize the true Patriots and Defenders of the Republic, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The Obomination movement will stall and fail unless the masses of  TV watching lemmings can be lobotomized even further into blindly following the Pseudo-President now occupying the White House.

This is but another step in the master plan to integrate this country into the NWO and rid this land of it's only true hope of remaining free. You and I are the last of the obstacles in their way, let us stand till the end and we will prevail.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: wvoutlaw2002 on March 13, 2009, 01:20:26 pm
Did you read the 12/08 section of Page 6 about "anti New World Order rhetoric"?

I posted something about this on my blog and put into the title what this really is: Project Megiddo Redux.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Travinyle1 on March 13, 2009, 09:38:00 pm
I have been trying to infiltrate the far right messageboards like Hannitys. I posted links to this news story. Have full denial from the necons on this one. Most wont even look at the links. Im trying to hit as many messageboards as i can and drop infobombs.

Once they realize they cant discredit it they simply delete the thread or ignore it.

Hannity Thread.
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1366231
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: mercuryrapids on March 14, 2009, 05:02:34 am
When I first saw the document, I thought it was a bit dodgy, given the grammatical errors and poor layout. Obviously I was wrong and I'm happy to admit that and I apologise unreservedly for being sceptical. This is bombshell news for our cousins in the States.
Title: Is Alex Jones on Drugs? (don't worry, it's not what you think)
Post by: Freeski on March 15, 2009, 07:29:45 am
Is Alex Jones On Drugs?
14 Mar, 2009

http://www.kootenaicp.org/2009/03/14/is-alex-jones-on-drugs/

Yesterday someone emailed me an Infowars article entitled “Secret Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists”. I had to read this I thought; it might be good for a laugh or two, the guys at Infowars are smoking weed again.

In the article Infowars claims to have received a document from an anonymous Missouri police officer. The document is a report he says was distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) in association with Homeland Security, with the title “The Modern Militia Movement”.

The Infowars article says: “The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.” The writer goes on to explain the report further alleges ties these mainstream groups have with racists, and violent groups. I read the alleged MIAC report and have never seen a more inflammatory bunch of nonsense in my life.

OK, Mr. Infowars writer, what’s your name, Kurt Nimmo? Now you have my attention. You’ve gone too far. As chairman of the Constitution Party in Kootenai County I would be interested to find out if Homeland Security in a MIAC document is really training law enforcement that I am a terrorist based on my association with the Constitution Party, and my support of Ron Paul, as that would make me the logical leader of the local terror cell in the area.

Now I’m getting upset. Why would Infowars publish something so absurd? Is there any chance this goofy nutcase article is true? Imagine my shock and horror when I called the State Chairman of the Constitution Party to find out this article is true! He supplied me with the phone number of the Secretary of the Constitution Party of Missouri. She told me Missouri State Representative Jim Guest confirmed the MIAC document is authentic! You could have knocked me down with a feather.

In the last two years I have been involved with the Ron Paul campaign, Campaign for Liberty, and several months ago I left the Republican Central Committee of Kootenai County to go to work for the Constitution Party, first as Vice Chairman of the Kootenai County Constitution Party, and recently as the Chairman. In that time I have had the privilege of getting acquainted with some of the most wonderful, patriotic, and spiritual men and women I have ever known. I am proud to call them my friends, and I have never heard any seditious or terrorist talk from any of them.

To those who have taken an oath to uphold and defend The Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, law enforcement and military, I hope you will find great comfort in witnessing groups like ours assigning the proper reverence to the supreme law of our constitutional republic, The Constitution of the United States of America. My friends and I have nothing in our hearts but love and respect for all law enforcement, and military personnel faithfully fulfilling their oath to uphold The Constitution. Please go to oathkeepers.blogspot.com. I have confidence any attempt to, as the Infowars article puts it, “radicalize the police against political activity guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights” will be seen for what it is, a classic Marxist provocation intended to polarize our people and law enforcement personnel. I urge the slandered groups to investigate and vigorously pursue their legal recourse. I pray cooler heads will prevail.

My sincere apologies to Alex Jones, and Kurt Nimmo for thinking you were on drugs. But hey, come on, this is pretty wacky stuff.

God bless our constitutional republic, The United States of America. God help us all.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Kain on March 15, 2009, 11:27:46 am
Interesting article.

Either the author made it inflamatory intentionally to get folks to read it... or... seriously has his head up his ass. Maybe a bit of both.

If the guy thinks that Alex and staff are usually 'smoking weed', it tells you how pathetic and asleep the 'leaders' of the mainstream constitution party are. Just one step from the mainline republicrats and Rush worshippers. Sad, really.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: pilgrim1776 on March 15, 2009, 07:10:58 pm
This is Amerika, a demokracy, not a Republic

Some of the most recent articles elaborate on the methods that the local cowboy cops with police-state mentalities have been utilizing to apprehend the non-socialist populace.  I guess that my question is, "Why is anyone surprised?"  The electors have been consistently and repeatedly voting into office all forms of liberal, socialist, humanist, collectivist, One World Government and New World Order advocates, proponents and adherents, therefore, “why is anyone surprised?”
Live with what you have put into office or start thinking, if you can, with reason and logic, and vote them out of office!
You have allowed yourself to be dumbed-down by the government schools and the totally, controlled media so your only hope is to uneducate yourself from what the elitists have done to your brain by going to the library and read those olde dusty books that once were read in order to learn and understand what it takes to be obligated and responsible for GOOD government!
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Freeski on March 15, 2009, 07:52:59 pm
This is Amerika, a demokracy, not a Republic

Some of the most recent articles elaborate on the methods that the local cowboy cops with police-state mentalities have been utilizing to apprehend the non-socialist populace.  I guess that my question is, "Why is anyone surprised?"  The electors have been consistently and repeatedly voting into office all forms of liberal, socialist, humanist, collectivist, One World Government and New World Order advocates, proponents and adherents, therefore, “why is anyone surprised?”
Live with what you have put into office or start thinking, if you can, with reason and logic, and vote them out of office!
You have allowed yourself to be dumbed-down by the government schools and the totally, controlled media so your only hope is to uneducate yourself from what the elitists have done to your brain by going to the library and read those olde dusty books that once were read in order to learn and understand what it takes to be obligated and responsible for GOOD government!


Show your fellow man the truth. That's our only hope! (Chicks too!)
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Aerioch on March 15, 2009, 11:58:26 pm
This is for real ... The Kansas City Star just confirmed it, and is running the story.

Quote
Missouri report on militias, terrorists draws criticism
The Associated Press



COLUMBIA, Mo.
| A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned.

The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.

"It seems like they want to stifle political thought," said Roger Webb, president of the University of Missouri campus Libertarians. "There are a lot of third parties out there, and none of them express any violence. In fact, if you join the Libertarian Party, one of the things you sign in your membership application is that you don't support violence as a means to any ends."

But state law enforcement officials said the report is being misinterpreted.

Lt. John Hotz of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said the report comes from publicly available, trend data on militias. It was compiled by the Missouri Information Analysis Center, a "fusion center" in Jefferson City that combines resources from the federal Department of Homeland Security and other agencies. The center, which opened in 2005, was set up to collect local intelligence to better combat terrorism and other criminal activity, he said.

"All this is an educational thing," Hotz said of the report. "Troopers have been shot by members of groups, so it's our job to let law enforcement officers know what the trends are in the modern militia movement."

But Tim Neal, a military veteran and delegate to last year's state GOP convention, was shocked by the report's contents.

"I was going down the list and thinking, 'Check, that's me,'" he said. "I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the 'America: Freedom to Fascism' video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?"

Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views.

"If a police officer is pulling me over with my family in the car and he sees a bumper sticker on my vehicle that has been specifically identified as one that an extremist would have in their vehicle, the guy is probably going to be pretty apprehensive and not thinking in a rational manner," Neal said. "And this guy's walking up to my vehicle with a gun."

But Hotz said using factors in the report to determine whether someone could be a terrorist is not profiling. He said people who display signs or bumper stickers from third-party groups are not in danger of harassment from police.

"It's giving the makeup of militia members and their political beliefs," Hotz said of the report. "It's not saying that everybody who supports these candidates is involved in a militia. It's not even saying that all militias are bad."

Posted on Sat, Mar. 14, 2009 02:22 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1086524.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1086524.html)

They are prepping the Law Enforcement Community to start getting nervous around true patriots.  Ganking our guns is next up on the list.  Obama and His Zio-Jew Crew have that legislation all ready in the pipeline.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 16, 2009, 09:11:53 am
This is for real ... The Kansas City Star just confirmed it, and is running the story.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1086524.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1086524.html)

They are prepping the Law Enforcement Community to start getting nervous around true patriots.  Ganking our guns is next up on the list.  Obama and His Zio-Jew Crew have that legislation all ready in the pipeline.

I love the title they use:

"Missouri report on militias, terrorists draws criticism"

instead of:

"Missouri report defines tyranny so horrendous that Hitler would be proud"
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: KarnEvil9 on March 16, 2009, 04:21:21 pm
Quote
"These members ARE USUALLY supporters of former Presidential Candidate: Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr."

"Usually" implies a large percentage.

Quote
The article does not EQUATE support for Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin with terrorism

Hmm, I wonder what percentage/number the cops, the intended readers of the memo, would "equate" to "usually"?
Not that your observation isn't correct, but think of the scarcely disguised implications behind the word "usually"
 
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: GoingEtheric on March 17, 2009, 12:37:18 pm
I heard it...I don't believe it...but I heard it.

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/ (http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/)

This country is starting to resemble a line form "Springtime For Hitler" in "The Producers"....don't be stupid, be a smartie, come and join the Nazi Party.

I'd like to say that I'd thought I'd never see the day.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Gruntled Employee on March 17, 2009, 12:38:35 pm
If we plaster pro liberty stickers on the bankers & neocons cars and houses they will have no choice but to arrest themselves??? maybe?? LOL
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: jflack on March 17, 2009, 01:16:37 pm
Missouri State Police Think You And I Are Terrorists
by Chuck Baldwin
March 17, 2009

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2009/cbarchive_20090317.html

Thanks to a concerned Missouri state policeman, a nationally syndicated radio talk show host stated that he was alerted last week to a secret Missouri state police report that categorized supporters of Congressman Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and myself as "'militia' influenced terrorists." The report, he said, "instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties."

Ignoring the threat of Muslim terrorists, the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report focuses on the so-called "militia movement" and "conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order."

This report is not original, of course. During the Clinton administration, a Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation and Joint Terrorism Task Force explicitly designated "defenders" of the Constitution as "right-wing extremists." However, the MIAC report significantly expands on earlier documents and is the first known document to actually name names.

According to the MIAC, opposition to world government, NAFTA, federalization of the states, and restrictive gun laws are a potential threat to the police. The MIAC report also refers to Aaron Russo's film, "America: Freedom to Fascism."

The story exposing the MIAC report states, "The MIAC report is particularly pernicious because it indoctrinates Missouri law enforcement in the belief that people who oppose confiscatory taxation, believe in the well-documented existence of a New World Order and world government (a Google search of this phrase will pull up numerous references made by scores of establishment political leaders), and are opposed to the obvious expansion of the federal government at the expense of the states as violent extremists who are gunning for the police. It specifically targets supporters of mainstream political candidates and encourages police officers to consider them dangerous terrorists."

See the report here:

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

The Columbia Daily Tribune also carried the story last Saturday. It quoted Missouri resident Tim Neal of Miller County. "When Neal read the report, he couldn't help but think it described him. A military veteran and a delegate to the 2008 Missouri Republican state convention, he didn't appreciate being lumped in with groups like the Neo-Nazis.

"'I was going down the list and thinking, "Check, that's me,"' he said. 'I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the "America: Freedom to Fascism" video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?'"

The Tribune's report also acknowledges, "The [MIAC] report's most controversial passage states that militia 'most commonly associate with third-party political groups' and support presidential candidates such as Ron Paul, former Constitutional [sic] Party candidate Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate last year."

The Tribune report also said, "Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views."

See the Columbia Tribune report here:

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/mar/14/fusion-center-data-draws-fire-over-assertions/

I realize that there are people who will dismiss this kind of story as insignificant. They shouldn't. This is very serious and should be treated as such. Anyone who knows anything at all about history knows that before a state or national government can persecute--and commit acts of violence against--a group of people, they must first marginalize the group from society's mainstream and categorize it as dangerous.

Rome did exactly that to Christians, as did Mao's China; Hitler's Germany did the same thing to Jews; Stalin's Russia did the same thing to political dissenters, etc. That a State police agency in America would actually infer that people who supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself in a political campaign are somehow indistinguishable from violence-prone "militias" is beyond insulting: it is a smear campaign, and might should even be regarded as a hate crime!

Beyond that, the MIAC report paints with a very broad brush. In addition to supporting Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself, a review of the report reveals that opposition to any of the following risks someone being classified as a potential "domestic terrorist":

The New World Order
The United Nations
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention (Con Con)
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion on demand
Illegal Immigration


Again, if you oppose any of the above, or if you supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself, you risk being labeled a "domestic terrorist," according to the MIAC.

Do you not see how dangerous this kind of slanderous labeling can become? It could affect your flight status when you try to board an airline. It could affect your application for sensitive jobs. It could affect your adjudication before a court or judge. It could make you a target for aggressive law enforcement strategies. It could affect your being able to obtain a passport. It could affect one's ability to purchase a firearm or receive a State concealed weapon permit.

This is very serious business! We are not talking about private opinions. We are talking about law enforcement agencies. And remember, most law enforcement agencies share these types of reports; therefore, how many other state police agencies have similar reports floating around? Probably several. Plus, how do we know that this report was not influenced by federal police agencies? We don't.

Rest assured, I do not plan to take this lying down. As one who is personally named in the above report, I demand a public retraction and apology from the MIAC and Missouri State Police. I can tell you that my family is extremely distraught that their husband, father, and grandfather would be labeled in such a manner. I am also not ruling out legal action. In addition, I am discussing an appropriate response with Ron Paul and Bob Barr. I will keep readers posted as to what comes of these discussions (as I am at liberty to do so, of course).

In the meantime, I encourage everyone who believes in the freedom of speech and who believes that the MIAC report is an egregious miscarriage of justice to contact the appropriate Missouri police officials. Here is the contact information:

Email address: [email protected]


Missouri Information Analysis Center
Division of Drugs & Crime Control
P. O. Box 568
Jefferson City, MO 65102-0568
Phone: 573-751-6422
Toll Free: 866-362-6422
Fax: 573-751-9950


And lest one thinks that none of this concerns him or her, I would like to remind you of the lament of Martin Niemoeller back in the days of Hitler's Germany. Niemoeller was a decorated U-Boat Captain and pastor of great distinction. An avid anti-communist, Niemoeller at first supported Hitler's rise to power and was hesitant to oppose the violations of civil rights against various groups he personally found distasteful. It did not take long, however, before Niemoeller realized that when laws protecting the rights of all were removed from some, no one was safe--including him. Unfortunately, he learned his lesson too late, as he, too, was persecuted and imprisoned by Hitler's State Police. Here is what Niemoeller said about his indifference:

"They came first for the communists, and I did not speak up-
                    because I was not a communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak up-
                    because I was not a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up-
                    because I was not a Jew;
And then they came for me-
                    and there was no one left to speak up."


So, those of you who think you have nothing to fear because you did not vote for Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or me, or because you do not live in the State of Missouri need to think again. As I have repeatedly said, we either have freedom for all, or we have freedom for none. Truly, secret police reports such as the one above threaten the liberties of us all.

So, will you speak up now or wait until they come for you and no one is left to speak up?
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: JBS on March 17, 2009, 01:31:02 pm
Who are the terrorists? The ones doing terrorist acts or the general public? I say its the Secret Police. It's nothing but government sponsored suppression of the constitution.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 17, 2009, 01:39:03 pm
Who are the terrorists? The ones doing terrorist acts or the general public? I say its the Secret Police. It's nothing but government sponsored suppression of the constitution.

According to the unconstitutional US Patriot Act, a terrorist can be defined as (according to section 802 of the insane legislation-I am paraphrasing but not changing any words, content):

"the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion or affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping"

OK, here is Dick Cheney saying that Barack Obama's policies will lead to future 9/11's on US soil: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=93233.0

You can look at the last 3 months of Barack Obama speeches where he says that the impending economic doom of the US will occur if more Federal Reserve funding bailouts/stimulus packages are not signed.

Here is a thread on Dick Cheney/Barack Obama's Assassination squad: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=92448.0

And we all know that rendition is a huge policy of the Bush/Obama administrations.

WHO ARE THE TERRORISTS?


Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Matt Hatter on March 17, 2009, 06:02:01 pm
By Chuck Baldwin
March 17, 2009
NewsWithViews.com
“I realize that there are people who will dismiss this kind of story as insignificant. They shouldn’t. This is very serious and should be treated as such. Anyone who knows anything at all about history knows that before a state or national government can persecute–and commit acts of violence against–a group of people, they must first marginalize the group from society’s mainstream and categorize it as dangerous.
Rome did exactly that to Christians, as did Mao’s China; Hitler’s Germany did the same thing to Jews; Stalin’s Russia did the same thing to political dissenters, etc. That a State police agency in America would actually infer that people who supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself in a political campaign are somehow indistinguishable from violence-prone “militias” is beyond insulting: it is a smear campaign, and might should even be regarded as a hate crime!”
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin498.htm
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: rick reuben on March 17, 2009, 06:24:17 pm
Stephen Lendman has referred to the Missouri police documents and the PP article in a good piece he wrote for the Centre for Research on Globalization. It's also hosted at marketoracle.co.uk

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article9459.html
Quote from: lendman
America is for sale as a commodity. Serfdom is planned for most people, and Obama is as much at fault as Bush so let's be clear. He's either a consenting co-conspirator in the looting of the country or a willing dupe letting it happen in his name. Either way, he's part of a crime syndicate driving world economies and most people everywhere to ruin to enrich and further empower a select Wall Street elite - the same ones and their lobbyists that provided millions for his campaign.

On March 12 at the Business Roundtable, Obama assured attending CEOs that serving corporate America is Priority One, especially the financial elite with as much of the nation's resources as they need. He said that the "only way we can truly unlock credit and heal our financial system for good is to address the state of our banking system. And I know that this crisis is at the top of your immediate concerns - and I promise you, it is at the top of mine as well." He means that he'll continue to:

-- stiff-arm the public with empty rhetoric, hollow promises, and little in the way of real help;

-- strip-mine the nation's wealth for Wall Street and the rest of the FIRE sector (finance, insurance and real estate); and

-- provide smaller amounts for other business sectors at his discretion but not enough to keep bankers and vulture investors from buying much of it on the cheap.
The reference to the Missouri documents comes during the article's concluding portion, Militarizing America for Business and All Contingencies .
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: eminer on March 17, 2009, 08:07:37 pm
Guess I'd better rip the Ron Paul bumper sticker off my gun cabinet and lower my Gadsen Flag.

Damn!
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: jflack on March 18, 2009, 07:23:26 am
Email from Campaign For Liberty

Petition found here
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/citizenspetition.php


March 17, 2009


Dear Friend of Liberty,

Maybe you've heard, or maybe not, but the Missouri State Police think you might be a security threat.

Why?  Because you support Ron Paul and the Campaign for Liberty.  Also, because maybe you own guns, oppose abortion or homeschool.

Even, and I'm serious, because you support the U.S. Constitution.

I know, it's ridiculous...and probably steams you a bit.

But here at Campaign for Liberty we are going to give this foolishness the treatment it deserves.  More on that in a moment.  Let me give you a bit more background.

As you may be aware by now, the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) recently released a report titled, "The Modern Militia Movement" to over one thousand Missouri law enforcement officers.

What is the Missouri Information Analysis Center?  According to its website,


"MIAC is the mechanism to collect incident reports of suspicious activities to be evaluated and analyzed in an effort to identify potential trends or patterns of terrorist or criminal operations within the state of Missouri.  MIAC will also function as a vehicle for two-way communication between federal, state and local law enforcement community within our region."
The MIAC warned officers that violent militia members are "usually" supporters of presidential candidates like Ron Paul and are also known for opposition to things like the Federal Reserve and the income tax.

The "study" was undoubtably written by some university liberal who knows nothing of the hundreds of thousands of Missourians who share our values.  I can only imagine how many hundreds of thousands of Missouri tax dollars funded this.

Both Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty champion principles of freedom, peace, and prosperity.  We believe that the Founder's vision for America can be reclaimed through education and peaceful activism.  It is a common practice of elitist intellectuals and backroom bureaucrats to attempt to crowd everyone into groups and stick labels on them, especially when it involves those who support a Constitutionally-limited government.

Anthony Gregory, editor-in-chief at Campaign for Liberty, has posted an excellent new article on our site concerning government broad-brush fear campaigns.

It is important that we respond in the right way when faced with such a government labeling, and the proper way is to go straight to the top in Missouri.

The way to fight thugs and ignorant people in authority is not to cower or rage, but to proudly proclaim who you are and what you believe.

That's why I urge you to sign our Citizen's Petition here today.

Our petition spells out in no uncertain terms who we are and what we believe.  And it reminds those in charge of enforcing Missouri's laws that we are citizen activists who will not be intimidated nor embarassed into silence.

Simply owning a gun does not make you a threat.  It means you are a free citizen.

Supporting our Constitution does not make you worthy of a watchlist, it makes you a Patriot.

So please, sign our Citizen's Petition today.  Be sure to stay tuned for more information on how we plan to respond to the MIAC.

Finally, I want to ask you a final favor.  If you can, please join us next week as we gather in St. Louis for the first Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference and show the people of Missouri what Campaign for Liberty truly stands for and represents.

We will be hosting a free event on Friday Night with Ron Paul and Judge Andrew Napolitano that is open to the public, and the conference will be highlighted by grassroots training on Saturday, March 28.

Learning how to properly mobilize in order to implement liberty-based legislation is absolutely critical to our success as a movement, and our Regional Conference will provide you with the tools you need as we move forward.

For more information on our Conference, check out our Regional Conference page.  For special travel and hotel information, click here.

Liberty is never free, and demands vigilance.

I look forward to seeing you in St. Louis for an exciting weekend of celebration and training!

In Liberty,

John Tate
President, Campaign for Liberty
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Kain on March 18, 2009, 11:26:41 am
Guess I'd better rip the Ron Paul bumper sticker off my gun cabinet and lower my Gadsen Flag.

Damn!

Guess that all depends if you are kosher with being swat teamed or not.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: eminer on March 18, 2009, 03:59:45 pm
Guess that all depends if you are kosher with being swat teamed or not.

I really like my dog.  ;D
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: headwest on March 18, 2009, 04:15:32 pm
Rush Limbaugh was talking about this today, I was suprised. 
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TelepesT on March 18, 2009, 08:46:20 pm
I just found this - PA State funded website
http://www.pa-aware.org/who-are-terrorists/domestic-6.asp

This whole site is Fuc|<ing stupid.   www.pa-aware.org



snippet below
-------------------------------------
Domestic Terrorists

Anti-Government Groups

The history of our country is filled with opposition to a strong federal government. George Washington marched troops into Pennsylvania to enforce the federal government’s power to levy taxes. We fought a civil war over the question of the power of states vs. federal government.

The modern Anti-Government movement evolved in reaction to:

• gun control laws of the 1990s
• the federal government’s actions at Waco (Branch Davidians)
• the federal government’s actions at Ruby Ridge (Randy Weaver)

http://www.pa-aware.org/who-are-terrorists/pdfs/C-13.pdf

Anti-Government Groups

Often associated with unorganized militias, the Anti-Government movement actually embraces a much larger variety of groups and causes. The extreme fringe believes that the U.S. government is either the enemy or has been subverted by the enemy and must be actively defended against.

Anti-Government Issues and Beliefs

Gun Control is a conspiracy to enslave us starting with the removal of our ability to either defend ourselves or forcefully change our government.

The first ten amendments of The Constitution are God given and all others are temporary, invalid or outright fraudulent.

All judicial authority resides with the people. The jury, not the Judge, directs trials and can nullify laws they do not approve of.

U.S. sovereignty is being surrendered to the U.N., World Court, and World Bank, with the U.S. becoming an economic region of this New World Order.

Anti-Government activists often believe they have never accepted U.S. citizenship or can renounce it.

Federal and State governments do not have the legal authority to levy taxes or interfere with travel or private enterprise by requiring licenses or regulating activity or conduct.
---------------------------------------------------

I see a Pattern with this - are there any others?

So far I have seen Virginia, Missouri, and Now Pennsylvania
time to search for it


Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TheWeavingSpider on March 18, 2009, 10:08:27 pm
I told my mom about this, she didn't believe me... Till she heard from Rush Limbaugh.

Lol, yep Rush must be reading infowars now or something?
Title: MIAC report in PDF, someone plz?
Post by: xatom227 on March 19, 2009, 07:18:01 am
Can someone please take the 8 pages of MIAC and upload it somewhere in PDF format?  Thanks!
Title: Re: MIAC report in PDF, someone plz?
Post by: tattoo8118 on March 19, 2009, 07:20:00 am
I actually found it on another forum.

Here is the link, you will find the link to the downloadable pdf version at the bottom of the first post

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1239429
Title: Re: MIAC report in PDF, someone plz?
Post by: xatom227 on March 19, 2009, 08:11:19 am
Thanks a ton!
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: uwaf on March 19, 2009, 10:24:49 am
White Americans are being set up. The next bombing will be by Whites that have trained with Al-CIA-duh.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 19, 2009, 11:02:59 am
White Americans are being set up. The next bombing will be by Whites that have trained with Al-CIA-duh.

I don't think the criminal, parasitic elite are nearly as eager to blame "whites" for their next false flag (http://www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag) attack as they are the 9-11 truth/anti-NWO/pro-America (http://www.fff.org/freedom/1095c.asp) movement.

I assure you that patriots such as Paris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yATmADOHRRs) and Cynthia McKinney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbzm3s6Ikwo) are on the same establishment shit list that Alex Jones is.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 19, 2009, 11:03:35 am
White Americans are being set up. The next bombing will be by Whites that have trained with Al-CIA-duh.

WARNING: Next 9/11 Will Be Blamed on Truthers/Home Grown Terrorist
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=58186.0

U.S. says homegrown attack poses biggest risk
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=18634.0

Rockefeller/Rothschild current false flag plans
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=344.0
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TBPauly on March 19, 2009, 12:55:31 pm
WARNING: Next 9/11 Will Be Blamed on Truthers/Home Grown Terrorist
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=58186.0

U.S. says homegrown attack poses biggest risk
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=18634.0

Rockefeller/Rothschild current false flag plans
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=344.0

Well, that probably explains how they will turn off the current Internet and take the guns away from those who arm themselves.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TheWeavingSpider on March 19, 2009, 10:03:24 pm
Actually, they will blame people like me:
Pacifist Christians that believe in the constitution.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 19, 2009, 10:14:49 pm
Actually, they will blame people like me:
Pacifist Christians that believe in the constitution.

you got that right!
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Aerioch on March 19, 2009, 10:31:02 pm
Actually, they will blame people like me:
Pacifist Christians that believe in the constitution.

Pacifist Christians = People who will not support further war effort on the current "threats" to Israel..

Who believe in the constitution = People who want to close the loopholes on the enemy within that is seeking total control.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TheWeavingSpider on March 19, 2009, 10:57:11 pm
Pacifist Christians = People who will not support further war effort on the current "threats" to Israel..

Who believe in the constitution = People who want to close the loopholes on the enemy within that is seeking total control.

Very good translation.

My views are pretty extreme though, I believe in peace and making peace with my enemies instead of killing them.

I support the ideas behind the Constitution, which the soul of it is individualism, I believe I have the ability to govern myself and to be responsible for my own actions. I do not believe the government has the right to tell me what I can and can't do, doing good is what I want to do, why should I not be able to do that?
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TelepesT on March 20, 2009, 12:33:18 am
Very good translation.

My views are pretty extreme though, I believe in peace and making peace with my enemies instead of killing them.

I support the ideas behind the Constitution, which the soul of it is individualism, I believe I have the ability to govern myself and to be responsible for my own actions. I do not believe the government has the right to tell me what I can and can't do, doing good is what I want to do, why should I not be able to do that?

These ideas sound good, but they can't be practical.

Turn the other cheek? Pray to God While you are beaten down? That is not the American way.

What Would Patrick Henry Do?
What Would Davy Crockett Do?
What Would Thomas Paine Do?
Title: Re: IL Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 20, 2009, 08:25:40 am
Hey look the governor now say, "Your f-ing right that report is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Missouri Governor Stands Behind MIAC Smear Report
Nixon defends document that equates Ron Paul supporters & people who display bumper stickers with terrorists, says feds will continue to issue similar reports
http://www.prisonplanet.com/missouri-governor-stands-behind-miac-smear-report.html
Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Friday, March 20, 2009


Missouri Governor Jay Nixon has defended a report issued by the Missouri Information Analysis Center that smears Ron Paul supporters, people who have knowledge of the U.S. Constitution, and people who display political bumper stickers as potential domestic terrorists.

As we revealed in our exclusive report last week, a leaked secret report distributed by the federal Missouri Information Analysis Center lists Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, people who display bumper stickers, people who own gold, or even people who fly a U.S. flag and equates them with radical race hate groups and terrorists.

The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

The MIAC report does not concentrate on Muslim terrorists, but rather on the so-called “militia movement” and conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order.

Police are educated in the document that people are are anti-abortion, own gold, display an assortment of U.S. flags, or even those that talk about the film Zeitgeist, view the police as their “enemy” and conflates them with domestic terrorists like Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph and other domestic militia groups who have been charged with plotting terrorist attacks.


Governor Nixon defended the report yesterday, stating, “Getting information, especially public information, out of our fusion center out to local law enforcement agencies is we do every day and we’re going to continue to do,” said Nixon. “Any way they take that information and can analyze what the threat levels are is important to make sure the public stays safe.”

Both Governor Nixon and the Missouri Information Analysis Center may have acted foolishly in refusing to denounce the report for what it is - a completely inaccurate smear which if anything makes America less safe from terrorists because it identifies as terrorists some of the most patriotic groups one can imagine.

The fact that the document clearly constitutes libel and defamation has not gone unnoticed by Chuck Baldwin, Ron Paul and Bob Barr, who have agreed to pursue legal action if the report is not withdrawn.

The three former presidential candidates have sent a letter to Missouri officials protesting the MIAC report. Appearing on The Alex Jones Show yesterday, Baldwin said that he and his fellow letter signatories will consider legal action if the letter does not result in a repudiation of the MIAC report and its absurd allegations.
Title: Re: IL Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 20, 2009, 08:26:42 am
Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin Considering Legal Action Over MIAC Document
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-considering-legal-action-over-miac-document.html
Kurt Nimmo Prison Planet.com Thursday, March 19, 2009


Appearing on the Alex Jones Show today, founder-pastor of Crossroad Baptist Church and presidential nominee of the Constitution Party for the 2008 U.S. Presidential election, Chuck Baldwin, talked about the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report designating Baldwin, Ron Paul, Bob Barr supporters and Libertarians as terrorists.

Infowars broke the story on March 11 after Alex Jones received the MIAC document from an anonymous source in the Missouri police.

“The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as ‘militia’ influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties,” Kurt Nimmo wrote for Infowars.

On March 13, Paul Joseph Watson, Kurt Nimmo and Alex Jones expanded coverage of the MIAC report.

Mr. Baldwin asserted his strong opposition to the document and Missouri police efforts to characterize mainstream political parties and their supporters as domestic terrorists. The MIAC report specifically links these supporters to “militia” influenced terrorists. “Police are educated in the document that people are are anti-abortion, own gold, display an assortment of U.S. flags, or even those that talk about the film Zeitgeist, view the police as their ‘enemy’ and conflates them with domestic terrorists like Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph and other domestic militia groups who have been charged with plotting terrorist attacks,” Infowars and Prison Planet reported.

In addition, Baldwin said he collaborated with Ron Paul and Bob Barr on a letter that will be sent to Missouri officials protesting the MIAC report. Mr. Baldwin indicated that if the letter does not result in a repudiation of the MIAC report and its absurd allegations, he and fellow letter signatories will consider legal action.

Chuck Baldwin will send a copy of the letter to Alex Jones. Infowars will post the letter.
Title: Re: IL Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 20, 2009, 09:21:49 am
Constitutionalists, Ron Paul Supporters and Real Terrorists
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/95170
Szandor Blestman  March 19, 2009


By now many of you have probably heard about the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report that labeled constitutionalists, Ron Paul supporters and others as possible domestic terrorists. When I first heard about it my first thought was something like, "Oh no, here we go again. The government propaganda machine is at work again. They are trying to equate ordinary folk and peace loving activists with violent extremists." Indeed, from my point of view this seems correct.

But, alas, I am a man who can´t just scratch the surface of an issue and leave it at that. I must try to dig deeper into the heart of the matter and try to sort through the implications. This is not to say that my initial gut reaction wasn´t correct. Indeed, often times it is. Yet there is often more to such reports than meets the eye and words are often misused or misinterpreted. I began to wonder why such a report would even be considered warranted. It seems clear to me that the language being used in the report was chosen to discourage dissent and incite violence rather than protect officers.

To begin with, we can examine the word terrorist. The word invokes images of hate filled, spiteful people plotting in a secretive fashion to plant bombs in public areas meant to kill and maim as many innocents as possible. Yet that is not what a terrorist is in the strictest sense of the word. A terrorist is one who terrorizes. A terrorist simply creates an atmosphere of fear. One could make the argument that I am a terrorist based on the fact that I write horror novels designed to make the reader feel the tingle of fright run down his spine. To label me as such would be an attempt to misinform and mis-associate in my opinion and the same can be said for the MIAC report. It wouldn´t, however, be totally false as the label was based on a plausible truth.

Or I could simply be looking at this from the wrong point of view. Perhaps from the point of view of those in politics and law enforcement, people in the freedom movement really are terrorists. After all, they have a tendency to not simply submit because someone claiming to have authority over them tells them to. They have a tendency to know their rights and to exercise them. They have a tendency to expect the police officers and government personnel to operate within the bounds of the law written down and codified in the Constitution. What could be more terrifying to a bully on a power trip who insists on being obeyed without question? What could be more frightening to a bureaucrat than someone who insists on the freedom and ability to run his own life rather than depending on the system?

Those of us who have awakened and wish to move forward with a liberty agenda confound the sensibilities of those who insist on regulating every aspect of our lives. We in the freedom movement see ourselves and everyone else as individuals while those with a collectivist point of view have a tendency to lump people together into groups. It could therefore be very logical for those with a collectivist mindset (as many in the government seem to have) to conclude that if one individual involved in the freedom movement becomes violent while defending his rights, all of them are potentially violent. Many of us who are liberty oriented believe that individuals should be punished individually for any harm they may cause to another individual. Those with a collectivist mindset, which is apparently the mindset of the people involved with writing the MIAC report, believe it is ok to punish a group for the actions of an individual, or worse yet to prevent some imaginary incident from possibly happening. It doesn´t matter to them how many innocent people will be hurt or implicated, nor does it matter what principles of human dignity are ignored, it only matters that they are obeyed and that their power, their control and their point of view are all maintained, by force if necessary.

It appears to me as if those currently in control of the mechanisms of power in this nation are, indeed, afraid and perhaps even terrified of those involved with the freedom movement. But I doubt very much that has anything to do with the people involved. The ideas of freedom and liberty are powerful. These ideas make wonderful allies when you side with them and frightening adversaries to fight against. They are ideas that most everyone understands and that just make good sense. Indeed, they seem to be ideas that have been interwoven into the fabric of the human spirit. So as those in control of the mechanisms of power see more and more people begin to question their authority they lash out at those who spread the message. As more ordinary people begin to demand accountability and insist on personal responsibility for the decisions that impact their lives, those who wish to remain in power may find themselves turning to even more tyrannical and devious methods to maintain control.

And so I am also afraid. I am terrified of that the men dressed in blue, or more often black these day, will one day kick down my door, drag me away and lock me in some cold prison cell simply because I choose to embrace the ideals that make men truly free as they go about their day to day lives. I am afraid that one day I will be accused of being a terrorist despite the fact that I abhor violence and do not advocate it, and that I will be forced to defend myself in front of a state owned court more concerned with its own self interests than with truth, justice or preserving the rights of the individual. I´m afraid that such a proceeding could cost me dearly in terms of time and wealth regardless of its outcome. I am afraid because the real terrorists have done their job well and given those who would dissent reason to be afraid. Yet I refuse to let fear silence me and will continue to support Ron Paul, The Campaign for Liberty, The Free State Project, tax protestors, constitutionalists and any other peaceful, freedom advocate I might come across. The more of us that feel this way and speak out about it, the better off we´ll all be.

If you want to know who the real terrorists are, type police brutality into a youtube search and watch the videos. If you want to know how real terrorism works, you only need to watch video of otherwise peaceful protests turned violent not by the protestors, but by those men dressed in black with riot gear and helmets who were supposedly there to keep the peace. Government forces have a history of violence that is far more insidious than any action any private organization has ever taken. Yet despite that they are still so afraid of some peaceful activists that they feel the need to label them and put out propaganda against certain organizations. They know what they are doing is wrong, but they cling to their delusions that it is for the greater good. Freedom and liberty are the ideals that will lead to greater societal good. Those in government would do well to realize and embrace these ideals before popular opinion forces them into an awkward and uncomfortable position they will have trouble defending.
Title: Re: IL Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 20, 2009, 09:40:44 am
Hey look the governor now say, "Your f-ing right that report is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

And thereby prove that Alex's armchair critics -- the ones who do nothing but mindlessly deny the existence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfCnEN62Vq8) of anything Alex warns people about, no matter how well-documented -- were wrong once again!
Title: Re: IL Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: chrisfromchi on March 20, 2009, 09:43:47 am
wheres the story about the IL governor?
Title: Re: IL Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 20, 2009, 10:00:11 am
wheres the story about the IL governor?

Missouri, fixed, thanks
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: PMF on March 20, 2009, 10:49:57 am
To the solders serving in Iraq & overseas fighting terrorists (including solders who’s homes are in Missouri) who voted, supported, and donated to Ron Paul during the 2008 primarys:

You are "ALL" terrorists of the USA!
Per the Missouri Governor…..
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 20, 2009, 11:03:36 am
To the solders serving in Iraq & overseas fighting terrorists (including solders who’s homes are in Missouri) who voted, supported, and donated to Ron Paul during the 2008 primarys:

You are "ALL" terrorists of the USA!
Per the Missouri Governor…..


GREAT POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Why the US Military Loves Ron Paul
By Tom Engelhardt
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730/engelhardt
July 23, 2007



Recently, Military.com, a large insider website directed at the military and veteran communities, polled its readers on when US troops should withdraw from Iraq and the results proved a surprise: "Nearly 60 percent of readers who participated... said the United States should withdraw its troops from Iraq now or by the end of 2008. More than 40 percent of the respondents agreed the pullout should begin immediately because 'we're wasting lives and resources there.'" (A minority 41 percent voted to fight on "until the insurgency is totally defeated.") This was, of course, a self-selecting vote of 5,440 Military.com readers, but no less startling for that.

Add in another modest set of recent figures and perhaps you have a hint of a shift in the sentiments of a military that has, in the last decades, been increasingly supportive of the Republican Party and an imperial foreign policy. Recently, the Federal Election Commission released its July quarterly figures on contributions to presidential candidates--and Congressman Ron Paul f Texas modestly made the news because the libertarian candidate managed to pull in more money than that military icon (and war supporter) Senator John McCain for the quarter and so slipped into third place in the Republican presidential dollars sweepstakes. Since Paul garners but 2 to 3 percent of the vote in recent presidential opinion polls (up from 1 percent earlier in the year), this was certainly striking in itself--an effect perhaps of his exposure in the ongoing presidential TV debates where he manages, on Iraq among other subjects, to sound like neither a Republican Tweedledum, nor Tweedledee.

A New York Times analysis piece by Jeff Zeleny, for instance, commented:

The only Republican in the race who opposes the war, Representative Ron Paul of Texas, has drawn a relative bounty of donations in response and now has more money to spend than the onetime presumed front-runner for the nomination,

But hidden in Paul's poll figures was another story--possibly far more consequential--that's been noticed only by a few blogs and websites that actually bothered to sort out and add up the numbers. (The first to do so was evidently The Spin Factor; the latest and fullest accounting is at Isilion, a blog for Paul.) The candidate who (along with Dennis Kucinich and Bill Richardson in the Democratic column) simply wants the US out of Iraq, no ifs, ands, or buts--no "combat brigades" vs. advisors--got a higher tally of contributions from people who have "military employers" than any other candidate in the race, Republican or Democrat. (Check out Paul "contributions by employer" and scroll down to US Army and US Navy; then compare to McCain, who came in second.) Overall, Paul beat out McCain in military contributions $24,965 to $17,475.

Now admittedly, members of the military are giving, at best, modest sums to presidential candidates; so, as with the Military.com on-line vote, these numbers are anything but overwhelming. Nonetheless, they are deserving of more attention than just online comments at Andrew Sullivan's blog and the Iraq Slogger website, as well as an instant mainstream dismissal from Fox commentator Michael Barone. ("My guess is that [Paul] used some libertarian-type mailing lists that happen to have a lot of people in the military on them," he said.) It would be more reasonable to assume that contributions to Paul (who has championed the needs of veterans) were actually limited not just by military restraint about getting involved in a political campaign, but by anxiety over being identified with a man whose position on Iraq, in the New York Times' phrase, is: "Just leave."

Until we get some better military polling figures, these two straws in the wind --the Military.com poll and Paul's campaign contributions, along with anecdotal evidence of various sorts--may be the best we can hope for. But let's also keep history in mind--at least the history of our country's last disastrous war of this sort. Don't forget that, Col. Robert D. Heinl, author of the "definitive history of the Marine Corps," wrote in 1971 when a withdrawal from Vietnam of US troops but not advisors or air power was well underway, that the armed forces were already in a state that had "only been exceeded in this century by the French Army's Nivelle mutinies of 1917 and the collapse of the Tsarist armies [of Russia] in 1916 and 1917."

Present US forces are, of course, all-volunteer, not draftees (or not exactly anyway, given recent tour extensions in Iraq and other kinds of forced call-ups), but why should they want to be endlessly redeployed to a lost war in a lost land? By the time the Bush Administration is done, the Paul campaign may be swimming in military money.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Military Favors Ron Paul Over McCain
http://ronpauldelaware.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/military-favors-ron-paul-over-mccain/


The US Federal Election Commission has released the Selected Presidential Reports for the 2007 July Quarterly, and there are a few surprises. No surprise, of course, is that people in the armed services and veterans overwhelmingly support the Republican Party. However, after digging through individual candidates’ contributions by employers, we find an elating (or disturbing, if you’re rooting for Rudy McRomney) trend. The breakdown?

Here you go.   

                    Army   Navy   USAF   USMC   VET   TOTAL
Ron Paul   6975   7765   4650   1500   1250   22140
McCain             6225   6480   1570   1600   800   16675

Romney   2051   0   1500   0   1000   4551
Giuliani             1450   370   250   0   250   2320
Hunter             0   1000   0   0   0   1000
Richardson   50   750   0   0   0   800
Huckabee   250   0   500   0   0   750
Tancredo   350   0   0   0   0   350
Brownback   71   0   0   0   0   71
T. Thompson   0   0   0   0   0   


This table expresses in dollars the total campaign contributions that each candidate has received from individuals who marked “Air Force,” “US Marines,” “USMC,” “Army,” “Navy,” or some other such permutation of letters as their employer that gives the appearance that they are a member of the armed services. The “veteran” column was derived by looking for “retired ______,” “______ retired,” or anything containing the word veteran, with the exception of Veterans’ Affairs (or the like).

What conclusions can be drawn from this surprising, exciting information? One might jump to the conclusion that the troops are tired and demoralized and angry to be fighting in the desert sand, and willing to leap on the only Republican candidate who wants an immediate end to the war. But that’s an insufficient explanation, since veterans favor Ron Paul as well.

Our military forces have a strong tradition of valorization and an implicit belief that they have served to protect the freedom of private citizens in the United States. So profound is this belief that it ranks as the #1 reason that veterans and active duty say they joined (even though education ranks as the #1 reason prior to enlistment).

This culture of pride in service particularly to safeguard American liberties and freedoms — regardless of whether it is true or not — disinclines those in service to contribute to candidates like Romney and Giuliani who want to expand Executive power and increase spying on Americans. This is why Ron Paul and John McCain are the clearest front-runners in terms of contributions. Well, that and the fact that McCain was a Captain in the Navy and Ron Paul was a flight surgeon.

Or … (one final thought) … does it run in the other direction? Does the military favor Paul and McCain because they were military, or do Ron Paul and John McCain have a favorable set of values for military servicemen and women because they themselves have served?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ron Paul Receives the Most Military Donations
http://www.intelliot.com/blog/2008/02/ron-paul-receives-the-most-military-donations/
2/5/2008 in Politics by Elliot Lee | 2 comments


Update: On February 28th, 2008, the Seattle Times observed the support that Dr. Paul has from tech companies:

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, has proved his popularity in the tech world, far outpacing Sen. John McCain in support from donors. Paul received twice as much money from Microsoft employees as McCain did, and five times as much as McCain from Google employees.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, employees of Google and Microsoft are number three and four in a list of top contributors to the campaign. (First and second on that list are the Army and Navy respectively.)

Congressman Paul has repeatedly said that he doesn’t want to tax or regulate the internet, and internet innovators - who have thrived from the freedom of the internet - support candidates who understand that freedom is key to the success of the e-Economy.

- From the Ron Paul 2008 Blog. Now back to my original post…

For the past few days, reports have been floating around about how well Ron Paul did in the last quarter of 2007 with donations from veterans and current servicemen and women. Many people are concerned that, with his anti-war stance, Ron Paul does not understand our military defense needs. Let these people be reassured. The troops absolutely support Ron Paul.

Patrick Semmens crunched the numbers to get the most accurate figures, and sure enough, Dr. Paul beats all other candidates, Republican or Democrat, in military donations. And by a significant margin, too.

Dr. Paul has worked his entire career working for veterans, and has many awards and endorsements due to his dedication to their cause.

A search of the FEC database by employer reveals that Dr. Paul has received 1160 donations from military donors, nearly triple that of John McCain, and more than McCain, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee combined.

Dr. Paul™s total military donations of $249 thousand are almost as much as the $260 thousand of combined donations received by the other five remaining candidates.

Congressman Paul is no stranger to military support. Former president Ronald Reagan once said, Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country!


Left to right: Ronald Reagan, Ron Paul
Image Source

According to the FEC reports, these are the total number and amount of military donations for each of the presidential candidates*:

Ron Paul: 1160 $249k
John McCain: 438 $83k
Mike Huckabee: 126 $37k
Mitt Romney: 126 $24k
Barack Obama: 443 $76k
Hillary Clinton: 154 $41k

*Methodology: Searched FEC reports for occupation/employer contains: Army Navy USN USAF Air Force Marine USMC Coast Guard USCG then removed duplicates and non-military occupations (i.e. marine repair)

Now, the important question is: why? My theory is that the military knows the issues, and knows the situation in Iraq. I do not know the real situation in Iraq. I am far more inclined to listen to their money, than any words that can spew out of a candidate’s mouth in a debate.

Oh, and here’s even bigger news: “Ron Paul … is attracting the most individual campaign contributions from employees of major U.S. high-tech companies.” Source

Again, why are technology people supporting Ron Paul? I think “websmith” put it well: “Tech workers are a smarter than average bunch …”


Not really too surprising: I’m a former Google and JPL intern, and now a Ron Paul supporter!

If you’re a Ron Paul supporter: get out and vote!
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Sasha on March 20, 2009, 11:35:24 am
Governor Nixon, I took a 10th grade civics class and studied the Constitution, and I like our Constitution and my civil rights as defined by the Bill of Rights.  Am I a terrorist?

Governor Nixon, many High Schools through out the state of Missouri teach the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.  Are these teachers and principals turning their students into terrorists?

Governor Nixon, I own a copy of the Constitution, and I read it frequently.  Am I a terrorist?

Governor Nixon, I frequently watch documentaries that have included "America: Freedom to Fascism" and "Zeitgeist".  Am I a terrorist?

Governor Nixon, I excercised my voting rights and wrote in Dr. Ron Paul's name as my Presidential pick.  Am I a terrorist?

Governor Nixon, George H W Bush gave a speech at the UN declaring that it was time for a "NEW WORLD ORDER".  Is George H W Bush a terrorist?
 
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: SuzakaDusk on March 20, 2009, 02:07:06 pm
Alot of Facebook users are now displaying the Gadsden Flag on their profile pictures in protest of this and in support of patriots in MO.. I included!
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Sasha on March 20, 2009, 02:11:48 pm
Alot of Facebook users are now displaying the Gadsden Flag on their profile pictures in protest of this and in support of patriots in MO.. I included!

Ooooo!  Good idea.  I'm there.  Ty, Suzaka, good suggestion.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Kain on March 20, 2009, 02:25:17 pm
Alot of Facebook users are now displaying the Gadsden Flag on their profile pictures in protest of this and in support of patriots in MO.. I included!

Have you seen this?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94100.0

Myspace and Facebook record all of your data. Permanently.

They also, for some select patriot users, have done something very odd of restoring ALL your mail from as far back as 4 years into your inbox. I can say personally that having private messages to and from my girlfriend at the time 3 years ago show back up in my inbox was very gorram strange indeed. I had 30+ PAGES of messages total, reappear. I've also since talked to dozens of people OFFLINE that aren't on PP, and it happened to them also. It did not seem to happen, as far as we can tell, to folks who had PRO Obama stuff on their page.

Odd, no?
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Sasha on March 20, 2009, 02:48:09 pm
Have you seen this?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94100.0

Myspace and Facebook record all of your data. Permanently.

They also, for some select patriot users, have done something very odd of restoring ALL your mail from as far back as 4 years into your inbox. I can say personally that having private messages to and from my girlfriend at the time 3 years ago show back up in my inbox was very gorram strange indeed. I had 30+ PAGES of messages total, reappear. I've also since talked to dozens of people OFFLINE that aren't on PP, and it happened to them also. It did not seem to happen, as far as we can tell, to folks who had PRO Obama stuff on their page.

Odd, no?

I just heard about that yestersday and yes, its very gorram odd.  It just happened to my Myspace inbox too, 53 pages of messages from the first one I sent out to the last.  They're main aim is likely to bust us with things we've said since just everything we say can be twisted into terrorist rhetoric.  We'll all just have to do a little more Mr. Universe'ing to get the message out before they pull the plug on the net.
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: jeromeg on March 21, 2009, 10:17:21 am
Gee let us see if any disinfo artists show up on this thread.

let the fly paper be laid out.

"These do not look credible"

"I cannot read them"

"They look photoshopped"

"The thumbnails don't work"

These guys will be the same to say:

"That train looks comfy, what is your problem?" 

"They want to separate us to protect us."

"Jesus told us to be obedient to the government"


Wow.. wanting a document to be legible and verifiable is on par with "This train looks comfy"? 

Dude.. what the @@#[email protected]!! is your problem?    I was about to ask for just a plain pdf version of this so I don't have to get solo pages that are blurry jpg files or files that are covered up by Ecolo Blue ads.  Wow, I actually want to read this document without any interruptions to the content or context? Sorry, I can't read it now.. I have to head off to the showers!!



Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Dig on March 21, 2009, 10:41:26 am

Wow.. wanting a document to be legible and verifiable is on par with "This train looks comfy"? 

Dude.. what the @@#[email protected]!! is your problem?    I was about to ask for just a plain pdf version of this so I don't have to get solo pages that are blurry jpg files or files that are covered up by Ecolo Blue ads.  Wow, I actually want to read this document without any interruptions to the content or context? Sorry, I can't read it now.. I have to head off to the showers!!


"Luther, are you angry with me? Oh, sorry about the car door. Did that hurt? It looked real painful when you slammed into it."

The point is that the documents were readable and legible from the beinning.  From the very first post.  It is like when you are on a bittorrent site trying to get a movie like Changeling which exposes the nefarious LAPD.  Well then you get a bunch of commenters that say stuff like, "Movie didn't work, no sound, not worth the download" from people who never even downloaded it.

Well now that the fricking Governor not only admitted they are real, but says they are an integral part of his entire architecture of policing the state, maybe you should take the 3.5 seconds and download the pdf posted here.

thanks
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: jofortruth on March 21, 2009, 11:15:49 am
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13290698/The-Modern-Militia-MovementMissouri-MIAC-Strategic-Report-20Feb09-


Someone put the docs on Scribd. PDF available here also.
Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: catholicportugalian on March 21, 2009, 12:04:00 pm
I just found this - PA State funded website
http://www.pa-aware.org/who-are-terrorists/domestic-6.asp

This whole site is Fuc|<ing stupid.   www.pa-aware.org



snippet below
-------------------------------------
Domestic Terrorists

Anti-Government Groups

The history of our country is filled with opposition to a strong federal government. George Washington marched troops into Pennsylvania to enforce the federal government’s power to levy taxes. We fought a civil war over the question of the power of states vs. federal government.

The modern Anti-Government movement evolved in reaction to:

• gun control laws of the 1990s
• the federal government’s actions at Waco (Branch Davidians)
• the federal government’s actions at Ruby Ridge (Randy Weaver)

http://www.pa-aware.org/who-are-terrorists/pdfs/C-13.pdf

Anti-Government Groups

Often associated with unorganized militias, the Anti-Government movement actually embraces a much larger variety of groups and causes. The extreme fringe believes that the U.S. government is either the enemy or has been subverted by the enemy and must be actively defended against.

Anti-Government Issues and Beliefs

Gun Control is a conspiracy to enslave us starting with the removal of our ability to either defend ourselves or forcefully change our government.

The first ten amendments of The Constitution are God given and all others are temporary, invalid or outright fraudulent.

All judicial authority resides with the people. The jury, not the Judge, directs trials and can nullify laws they do not approve of.

U.S. sovereignty is being surrendered to the U.N., World Court, and World Bank, with the U.S. becoming an economic region of this New World Order.

Anti-Government activists often believe they have never accepted U.S. citizenship or can renounce it.

Federal and State governments do not have the legal authority to levy taxes or interfere with travel or private enterprise by requiring licenses or regulating activity or conduct.
---------------------------------------------------

I see a Pattern with this - are there any others?

So far I have seen Virginia, Missouri, and Now Pennsylvania
time to search for it


please give the info for Virginia.  That is my home state and I am a cop's wife!


Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: jeromeg on March 21, 2009, 10:38:38 pm
"Luther, are you angry with me? Oh, sorry about the car door. Did that hurt? It looked real painful when you slammed into it."

The point is that the documents were readable and legible from the beinning.  From the very first post.  It is like when you are on a bittorrent site trying to get a movie like Changeling which exposes the nefarious LAPD.  Well then you get a bunch of commenters that say stuff like, "Movie didn't work, no sound, not worth the download" from people who never even downloaded it.

Well now that the fricking Governor not only admitted they are real, but says they are an integral part of his entire architecture of policing the state, maybe you should take the 3.5 seconds and download the pdf posted here.

thanks


You're welcome.  There is someone else here who posted an actual pdf.   no ads.. no jpg.  just like I wanted.

If there were given the importance AJ seems to be giving it.. it would be posted on the homepage of every site of his in a a pdf format, and on a banner that takes up a quarter of the page.   I guess that task must be beyond the IT staff's ability.    Same goes for when he states "on the record" on the show.  I just hope that when I google what he is talking about, that I am looking at the same documents he pulled his statements from.  Using a hope and pray research approach seems below what Alex is worthy of.  If I were to state something.. I would say "Here is what I think is happening based on what I have read, and here is the document  or set of documents that I pull my research from, and it is all in context, and therefore verifiable and credible."   What Alex seems to do is just say "google it and hope"  and then goes into a mocking tone and screams "scumbag" or "filth" a lot.   The mocking tone really turns my stomach, the screaming turns my stomach and only leads me to believe that he is not credible.   If you're credible and right, there is no need to resort to screaming or mocking.  You can say it all in a tone that doesn't lead newer listeners like myself to delete the podcast subscription.

Im willing to listen. I'm willing to know.  All I say is prove yourself, and do it to the best of your ability.   When I put something out there, especially if its outlandish, I had be better to be able to back myself up with something, and not just tell people  "google it". 
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Dig on March 21, 2009, 10:50:26 pm

You're welcome.  There is someone else here who posted an actual pdf.   no ads.. no jpg.  just like I wanted.

If there were given the importance AJ seems to be giving it.. it would be posted on the homepage of every site of his in a a pdf format, and on a banner that takes up a quarter of the page.   I guess that task must be beyond the IT staff's ability.    Same goes for when he states "on the record" on the show.  I just hope that when I google what he is talking about, that I am looking at the same documents he pulled his statements from.  Using a hope and pray research approach seems below what Alex is worthy of.  If I were to state something.. I would say "Here is what I think is happening based on what I have read, and here is the document  or set of documents that I pull my research from, and it is all in context, and therefore verifiable and credible."   What Alex seems to do is just say "google it and hope"  and then goes into a mocking tone and screams "scumbag" or "filth" a lot.   The mocking tone really turns my stomach, the screaming turns my stomach and only leads me to believe that he is not credible.   If you're credible and right, there is no need to resort to screaming or mocking.  You can say it all in a tone that doesn't lead newer listeners like myself to delete the podcast subscription.

Im willing to listen. I'm willing to know.  All I say is prove yourself, and do it to the best of your ability.   When I put something out there, especially if its outlandish, I had be better to be able to back myself up with something, and not just tell people  "google it". 

thanks for recognizing that we go above and beyond other sites to back up everything with documentation.  Many people (not you) fail to recognize this rare service that the pp forum provides.

we greatly appreciate your communicating this information within your community.

share the knowledge do not be stingy.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: SeanHannity on March 22, 2009, 08:52:47 am


Chuck Baldwin - MIAC Report - pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn86dNE9mcg

Chuck Baldwin - MIAC Report - pt2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

Title: Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TelepesT on March 22, 2009, 11:43:00 am
please give the info for Virginia.  That is my home state and I am a cop's wife!

Yes here is the virginia stuff

http://www.virginianewssource.com/images/VATerrorismManual.pdf


God Bless!
Title: Re: Secret State Police Report exposed "Supporting Libertarians = TERRORIST"
Post by: Kain on March 22, 2009, 01:22:57 pm

Im willing to listen. I'm willing to know.  All I say is prove yourself, and do it to the best of your ability.   When I put something out there, especially if its outlandish, I had be better to be able to back myself up with something, and not just tell people  "google it". 

*virtual slap*

Willing to 'listen'? Willing to 'know'?

Alex and many members here are literally the tip of the spear in the information war. If it wasn't for folks like Alex and a large number of his listeners and fellow patriots, you, along with everyone else, would ALREADY be in a FEMA camp.

Alex is providing a SERVICE to humanity, free of charge, and the cost to him and many other patriots is more than YOU, sir, would be willing to bear.

You have no gorram idea the sacrifices that are made to keep ungrateful people like you free on a daily basis.

Alex has been doing this for a LONG time. Yes, he can get pissed at time. Who doesn't? If your entire life is centered around exposing the NWO so that it doesn't kill us all, perhaps you'd be a bit pissed off too. Lord knows I am from time to time.

Some people are on the front lines with their very lives, and those of their families being endangered EVERY SINGLE DAY, to continue to keep the rest of the people informed.

Some of us have dealt with things, and made sacrifices you can scarcely imagine in order to continue fighting this SCUM.

And if after all that you've read here thus far, your only response to all of this is to delete the podcast because Alex's 'screaming', and calling the Eugenicists who are trying to kill us all 'scum', then may I suggest you go stir some Drano horse shit in your coffee or something else equally unpleasant.

The .pdf in question that you are talking about has been verified at the highest levels. (MO State Rep, and Gov Jay Nixon, who actually SUPPORTS it!)

Your statement of 'outlandish' is somewhat amusing to me. Something that is cold hard fact is only 'outlandish' to the ignorant who live in a world that is sugar coated frosting. Welcome to the real world. Hope you'll stay a while.

As for the 'Google' it comment, get off your lazy ass and do some of your own research, is what that means. Don't look to other people to constantly verify everything for you. This forum is a MASSIVE research, and many things can be found by simply doing a search here or on Infowars.com




Title: This Strategic Report lists those who support Ron Paul as terrorists
Post by: DarkKnightNomeD on March 22, 2009, 10:48:07 pm
This Strategic Report lists those who support Ron Paul as terrorists....Really!! It does!!

READ THIS !!!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13290698/The-Modern-Militia-MovementMissouri-MIAC-Strategic-Report-20Feb09-
Title: The MIAC Report under a different light!
Post by: SuzakaDusk on March 22, 2009, 11:58:41 pm
http://liberty.ohmegacomm.com/FPIAC.pdf

;)
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: cardio on March 23, 2009, 01:11:33 am
RON PAUL DELIBERATLY VIOLENTLY TARGETS NON COMBATANTS.

He uses torture, threat, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons (including depleted uranium) to achieve his political goals.

Oh wait, no that's the U.S. Army.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: freeyrmind on March 23, 2009, 04:38:48 pm
Glenn Beck is reporting on this right now. Maybe he finally read an email from someone on here lol.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: freeyrmind on March 23, 2009, 04:42:19 pm
Ron Paul in on with beck in a couple of minutes. i think they are going to talk about this very issue.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 23, 2009, 04:53:42 pm
Ron Paul in on with beck in a couple of minutes. i think they are going to talk about this very issue.

I hope Congressman Paul is temporarily possessed by the spirit of Alex Jones and asks Beck:

"Does this mean you apologize for engaging in the very same smear tactic yourself in late 2007?"

        http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7358 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7358)
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: freeyrmind on March 23, 2009, 05:03:07 pm
here is the transcript of his radio interview with him today. waiting for the tv transcript to be posted.



GLENN:My name is Glenn Beck. Mr. Ron Paul, Congressman Ron Paul is with us now. Congressman, are you now or have you ever been a member of the libertarian party?


RON PAUL: Boy, that's a tricky question. If I answer honestly, could I be in trouble? That's the big question.


GLENN: Well, I wanted to know if you answer yes to that and you happen to have a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car, you're definitely a militia member.


RON PAUL: Uh-oh. Well, since this is a public record, I have to tell you the truth. Yes, I have been a member.


GLENN: Are you -- do you have a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car?


RON PAUL: Yes, I do.


GLENN: Oh, boy.


RON PAUL: That too --


GLENN: You just stay on the phone. We're tracing the call right now. You just stay on the phone.


RON PAUL: Yeah, but you may be traced as well for bringing up the subject.


GLENN: I know. Oh, I know they are tracing my calls.


RON PAUL: You better be careful, too.


GLENN: Listen, Congressman, there was this story that came out last week about Missouri where they did this study on who's a militia member, and there were some pretty remarkable things in there. For instance, if you have a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car, that's a sign. If you talk about the Constitution, if you're against the United Nations, if you've ever passed along cartoons against the FBI, ATF or IRS, that's another sign. I mean, it's -- this is insane.


RON PAUL: You know, they are really taking on something. I don't know how they can handle this. Hopefully this will awaken the American people because I think I saw a poll the other day where 25% of the American people now think the UN is not a good idea and we should be out of it. What are they going to do? Round us all up or what?


GLENN: Well, I will tell you, I will tell you this. The latest on the United Nations is that today they said that the G20 should be disbanded and they should have a security council for the economies and 1% of everyone's stimulus package needs to go to the UN. That's crazy!


RON PAUL: That's the -- you know you are not supposed to waste a crisis, as Emanuel, as Rahm Emanuel says. So this crisis is going to be used to the people who do believe in world government. I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think they are pretty honest.


GLENN: Oh, yeah.


RON PAUL: I think they are open about it. They believe in it every bit as much as we believe in national sovereignty and personal liberty. They think you should have world government. This crisis now is not only a danger to us for the economic reasons but it's a danger to our liberties and the whole concept of what the United States stands for.


GLENN: Congressman, what do you think -- well, first of all, let's go right to the Geithner bailout now of the banks, of buying the toxic assets for $1 trillion. This was the plan that was the original TARP plan that they then came out and said it would not work, it would have been a disaster and now they are saying they have to do it and it's going to be the savior. It's a trillion dollars.


RON PAUL: Yeah, you know, and it's just redundancy like you said. That was the original plan they tried and tried. But the Fed unfortunately already has the authority to do and they announced last week that they were going to buy up these toxic assets.


GLENN: Hang on.


RON PAUL: So how many times can they buy these?


GLENN: Hold it. Hold it just a second. I'm sorry to interrupt. I swear to you this is just, this is according to the treasury, they have just announced that toxic assets are no longer toxic assets. They are now to be called legacy assets.


RON PAUL: Lying through their teeth.


GLENN: I just wanted to correct that -- we've got to get the right phrases here. So you were talking about the toxic, the legacy assets.


RON PAUL: What it is is they're worthless. You know, they claim that there's no market for them. Well, there is no market because they're worthless. They are finding victims and we're the victims. The taxpayers are the victims. They can't sell them because they have no value and they should allow them to be eliminated. They have to be liquidated. But this whole idea that they have to be bought up is preposterous. That's why they wouldn't -- this thing could be practically over if they just allow these companies to go into bankruptcy. The bankruptcy court would have handled this, we wouldn't have had to appropriate any money, we wouldn't have had to mess with regulating salaries. That whole thing could have been stopped just by following the law which should have been bankruptcy court.


GLENN: Okay. So now we have a trillion dollars that they are proposing. The Fed and the treasury are coming out and saying it's a $2 trillion problem but we will have -- we'll take a trillion of it. However, they were the same people that were telling us just six months ago that this is probably a $500 billion problem and they were going to overwhelm it with $700 billion in bailout money. Now the experts are saying, no, no, the treasury's wrong; this is probably a $4 trillion problem. Is there a point, congressman, where you see your fellow congressmen saying, "Okay, enough is enough?


RON PAUL: No, they are like an addict. They are addicted. They don't know what else to do. They don't understand free market economics. They are in deep now. So they are not going to back off. And I've been saying this for a little while and that is because we're locked into this mentality, I think they are going to destroy the dollar before -- it's going to stop with the destruction of the dollar. We won't be able to afford it. There's no reason in the world to trust the value of the dollar long term and yet right now the world is still gravitating to the dollar. People are buying treasury bills, interest rates are very low. But that's going to end. Otherwise this would be a free gift to us and we could bail ourselves out forever and we wouldn't have to work and all we have to do is print money and buy stuff from overseas. So it would have to end. There's no way in the world that you can create these trillions of dollars. Already the Fed has committed to more than $5 trillion of either direct loans or guarantees. So the commitment is overwhelming. All the pressure is on the dollar and soon -- we saw a little bit of what can happen last Wednesday when the Fed announced their trillion dollar thing. You know, the dollar within 24 hours went down 4 1/2%. So if it can do that in one hour, what could happen when people panic out of the dollar and the Chinese dump their dollars. Very, very dangerous situation.


GLENN: Congressman Ron Paul, last week, I think it was on Wednesday at 3:00 in the afternoon, we started to monetize our own debt. Every economic expert that I have talked to that I believe has credibility because they weren't saying, "Oh, there's no problem, there's no problem," they haven't changed their tune. All the economic experts that were talking to me now that actually have a record of being right said this is end game here, this is the beginning of the end where you buy the debt from yourself for another trillion dollars. It's the death spiral. Do you agree or disagree with that?


RON PAUL: Absolutely. And although they have monetized debt and they bought them in the market, they've never done this before, although they've had the authority to do it. They buy it directly from the treasury. So congress in a way, they are not going to put their foot down because that bails them out. Congress can appropriate endlessly and the people in charge right now happen to believe that's a proper way of solving these problems. So --


GLENN: Where is this trillion? They printed a trillion dollars yesterday -- or last week. Where is this trillion dollars coming from with Timothy Geithner?


RON PAUL: Well, they are going to start off with getting I think $100 billion from the TARP funds. And even though last week they talked about that $1 trillion, that hasn't transpired yet. That is just in the, you know, in the pipeline. But it will come about. But they've been doing this all along. So if they appropriate money, it ends up the Fed has to monetize it eventually anyway. And then if the Fed buys the debt directly and buys these mortgage debts directly, there's really no real reason for the treasury to be doing this because the Fed can do it. They could have done it all along. They are either awfully confused or they are trying to hide something, which maybe it's both.


GLENN: Congressman, the concept came to me today as I was talking about Barack Obama and his, I think it's $634 billion, you know, in a down payment for healthcare that they are just pulling off to the side. First question, is there an escrow account where we should be watching where they are pulling this $634 billion off to the side? Where is that lockbox as Al Gore used to talk about?


RON PAUL: That's not there. As all this promise that you can deficit finance and print the money.


GLENN: Okay.


RON PAUL: And it's endless. It never stops. It's absolutely bizarre. It's just a wonder that the markets are doing as well as they are doing. The markets are doing lousy. The dollar is doing better than it deserves but that, of course, is going to quit.


GLENN: The other question that I have is at what point -- I mean, you know, I don't hear anyone talk about what it looks like. I mean, what we have basically is a giant balloon payment. At some point we're going to have to pay for all of this stuff and I don't hear anybody talking about it. At what point is it in our best interests to let the dollar collapse because we can't -- our children will be paying 80% taxes all across the board because we can't pay for that?


RON PAUL: Well, at a certain point you can't pay it and the debt won't be paid. It's how it's liquidated. When you or I, if we go bankrupt, we can liquidate debt by just not paying, going to bankruptcy court. Governments don't do that. What they do is they want inflation. They are working real hard to inflate because if they can double the money supply, your dollar lose half its value, your real debt is only one half. So they pay it off, you know, with junk money. So that is what they are hoping for because they know they can't pay the debt, the American people can't pay the debt, but the debt has to be liquidated. Governments liquidate it by inflation. So that's why you can be assured that the inflation is coming, and Bernanke has never hidden from that. He has always said he knows how to inflate like nobody else has, and he is working diligently at this, which means that he is doing an immoral, unconstitutional, bizarre act of destroying the value of the money. People should go to jail for this. If you do it or I do it, that's counterfeiting. But it's the same thing and they are doing it deliberately and that's how they will take care of the debt.


GLENN: The idea that these militias are creeping up, I mean, on this program I've asked you before, I think when you were running for president, I said to you, I talked to some of the people that are Ron Paul supporters or claim to be that are 9/11 Truthers, et cetera, et cetera. I think there are dangerous people on the left and the right. Some of them vote for Ron Paul, some of them voted for Barack Obama, some of them voted for John McCain, some of them voted for people I've never even heard of. Some of them don't vote at all, but I fear that there is -- some of us have at least been consistent in saying that we're on a road to fascism. We said it under George W. Bush and we're saying it now under Barack Obama. It's the same problem, just a different party and a different face. How worried are you that the Constitution is viewed as a code word, that we are entering a time when the conditions are growing more in the favor of being able to stomp down any kind of opposition by the parties in Washington?


RON PAUL: Well, I think the worse the economy gets, the more polarized the people become because wealth dissipates and people get poor and they get angry and they misdirect their anger and therefore, you know, there's always a threat of violence and, of course, that is what I've worked so hard to try to avoid because I consider it an intellectual fight. I believe that if people know why it's in their best interest to defend the constitution of personal liberty, we can achieve victory on this. But if there's a lot of confusion, then people say these people are scoundrels, and they are, and they feel desperate. They don't know anything else to do. So they want to resort to violence. And in that is where the danger comes from. Inflation wipes out the middle class, leads to political chaos and then the destruction of the political system. And we've about done, have done in the economic system. So now we're seeing the early and rising tide of political chaos and that to me is the dangerous phase. So I don't know how to reverse this other than promoting a better idea to beat their ideas and their ideas as internationalism, globalism, printing press money, Federal Reserve, don't give a hoot about the Constitution and just once again believe in individual freedom and have confidence that freedom works and that's how you get prosperity. And you don't have to be a bleeding heart thinking that the only way you can take care of people because quite frankly that backfires and creates more poor people, not more wealthy people.


GLENN: Do you -- do members of congress and the Senate, are you moved by the amount of mail? When they were sending tea bags to people, did that make a difference? Does it make a difference to have the phone calls come in? Does it make a difference if they would march on Washington and let people see their faces? What makes a difference to these people at this point?


RON PAUL: On occasion it does. I think this whole thing that congress felt compelled to do something about those salaries was a reflection that if the people rise up, the congress will react. But unfortunately, you know, that was so superficial and misdirected and missed the whole point and they should have never had the money in the first place. So that was not the answer. But the answer is, yes, if enough people rise up and tell their members, "Look, if you don't do it, we're going to throw you out" and then end up throwing them out, members, most people in Washington are very politically oriented and if it's a true resistance by the people, it does some good. Otherwise I wouldn't be involved in this at all. But the problem is it takes a long time for the transition and it gets too risky and right now we're facing this crisis of who knows how it's going to turn out. But we should know soon because we live in very, very dangerous times and events are moving rather rapidly.


GLENN: Do you see more people coming to your side in Washington? Do you see more people that are starting to get it or is it still just as mindless as it always has been?


RON PAUL: I think it's better. It's certainly better outside of Washington. I hope when I go to St. Louis this weekend, it will be better out -- that's where I meet people that agree with me. But in the past what I've been introduced have been bills that have been looked at and not only to be nice but I've been always marginalized. But I have this bill in this just to open the books of the Fed, just to audit the Fed which is H.R. 1207. I have over 40 sponsors on that. That's pretty good for me and I think the momentum's going to pick up on that because everybody now in Washington has heard once again from the American people, you guys better get your house in order, you at least ought to have transparency. And when people hear that the Fed does not even -- is not even required to answer our questions, people become outraged. So I think that is the first step to reforming our monetary system.


GLENN: Ron Paul, congressman from Texas, thank you so much, sir.


RON PAUL: Good, nice to be with you.


GLENN: You bet, bye-bye. Congressman -- is he still there? Oh, shoot. Are you there, Congressman?


RON PAUL: I am here.


GLENN: I just wanted to know, you don't have one of those snake flags, do you?


RON PAUL: I do. Should I put it away?


GLENN: I would -- well, no. Then you are hiding it. Then we know you've got something to hide.


RON PAUL: Boy, I'm trapped.


GLENN: We'll send Homeland Security over to your place.


RON PAUL: When are you going to hang it up behind you when you're on TV?


GLENN: I warn you -- you missed, I think it was Thursday, the episode, I wore a T-shirt with it on.


RON PAUL: You are getting brave here.


GLENN: You got that right. Thanks a lot. You bet. Bye-bye. When am I going to wear it on TV? I'm only doing it, though, because that's exactly what they want me to do. I'm just trying to throw everybody off the track (whispering). I'm really part of it.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 23, 2009, 05:31:29 pm
^ that sounds like it was a good interview (most RP interviews are).
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: nbx on March 23, 2009, 05:51:11 pm
@ram: That was funny.


I just posted this in Parody, but maybe it's needed in this thread..

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94939 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94939)

It's a very well done parody of the MIAC documents, which details the 'police state movement' and more importantly, it responsibly diffuses the divide & conquer agenda. The balance of humor and dreadfully-seriousness could make it a cunning tool.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TelepesT on March 23, 2009, 05:56:44 pm
is there a youtube of this interview?

Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: nbx on March 23, 2009, 06:09:59 pm
Part One:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0-7gZVAAWY

Part Two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwcWkz0VlM
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Freeski on March 23, 2009, 06:48:05 pm
Part One:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0-7gZVAAWY

Part Two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwcWkz0VlM

Wow, so fast... thank you Internet!
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Freeski on March 23, 2009, 07:15:24 pm
What a great interview! Please deport Ron Paul to Canada ASAP!

He's the only politician on Earth who is worthy of the job.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 23, 2009, 07:31:37 pm
Wow, so fast... thank you Internet!

Somebody no likey the internets...



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Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: freeyrmind on March 23, 2009, 08:51:26 pm
Somebody no likey the internets...



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hahahaha thats funny.


yeah it was a good interview with RP. Both the radio and the tv one.its good to see him getting more and more main stream attention, even if its due to TPTB trying to smear him.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Dig on March 24, 2009, 10:24:34 am
State Apologizes to Paul, Barr & Baldwin Over MIAC Report
http://www.prisonplanet.com/state-apologizes-to-paul-barr-baldwin-over-miac-report.html
But “domestic terror” smears against anti-abortion, anti-gun control, bumper sticker political activists will remain



Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, March 24, 2009

The uproar that ensued as a result of our original story about a document issued by the Missouri Information Analysis Center which smeared third party supporters as potential domestic terrorists has forced the Missouri Department of Public Safety to issue an apology to Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr. However, references to people who are anti-abortion, anti-gun control, knowledgeable about the Constitution and even those who simply display political bumper stickers will remain.

As we revealed in our exclusive report two weeks ago, a leaked secret report distributed by the federal Missouri Information Analysis Center lists Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, people who display bumper stickers, people who own gold, or even people who fly a U.S. flag and equates them with radical race hate groups and terrorists.

The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

The MIAC report (PDF) does not concentrate on Muslim terrorists, but rather on the so-called “militia movement” and conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order.

Even after an uproar ensued as a result of widespread media coverage of the report, Missouri Governor Jay Nixon had the temerity to stand behind the document despite its blatantly erroneous content and blasé defamation.

However, days after Paul, Baldwin and Barr signed a joint letter demanding that references to themselves and their affiliated political groups be removed from the report, along with a hint of legal action if this didn’t occur, the Missouri Department of Public Safety has issued a formal apology.

(ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)



“Portions of that report may be easily construed by readers as offensive to supporters of certain political candidates or to those candidates themselves,” Department of Public Safety Director John Britt wrote in his apology letter (PDF) to Paul, Barr and Baldwin. “I regret that those comments were ultimately included in the final report issued by the MIAC.”

“Unfortunately, in the course of preparing this report, some regrettable information was included in the report on militia groups in Missouri,” Britt wrote. “While the intent of the report was only to identify certain traits that are sometimes shared by members of militia organizations, this report is too easily misinterpreted as suggesting that militia members may be identified by no other indicator than support for a particular candidate or political organization.”

“I have ordered that the offending report be edited to excise all reference to Ron Paul, Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin,” the letter concludes, without a promise to retract the report altogether, much to the chagrin of the multitude of other banal groups demonized as potential domestic terrorists.

Missourians United For Life, an anti-abortion group, has filed a complaint with the American Civil Liberties Union against Governor Nixon following his public support of the document.

“What Governor Nixon is telling Missourians is if you disagree with him on the issue of life or display a pro-life bumper sticker or wear a pro-life pin, you may subjected to action by state law enforcement or your personal information might be sent to a law enforcement analysis center,” said Ed Martin, President of Missourians United for Life. “This is a clear violation of Missourians civil rights. The only intent of such a report by Nixon’s Administration is to harass and intimidate the governor’s perceived political enemies and chill speech and open debate by those who disagree with Jay Nixon on public policy.”

State Rep. Shane Schoeller of Willard added his criticism to the furore, stating, “I don’t want to evolve into a society where people are watched just because they’re out participating in some freedom of speech activity.”

The fact that the bulk of the report, which equates pro-life groups, political activists and people knowledgeable about the Constitution with domestic terrorists like Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph, will not be redacted, proves that the battle is not over.

Outrage over the wholesale defamation of some of the most patriotic and informed groups of American citizens and attempts to educate police that they should be treated as an “enemy” should not subside just because the state has issued a meek apology to Paul, Barr and Baldwin alone.

The entire report needs to be repudiated in order to create a precedent that educating police with this kind of garbage is an insult to the very oath that they swore by in the first place.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 24, 2009, 10:30:25 am
The hell with fake "apologies," whoever authorized that report needs to be fired, and the report itself needs to be officially and openly voided.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Kain on March 24, 2009, 10:46:06 am
The hell with fake "apologies," whoever authorized that report needs to be fired, and the report itself needs to be officially and openly voided.

Amen, Geo. The article is not going to be rescinded, only Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Chuck Baldwin's names removed from an updated report, because the state doesn't want to get sued. Otherwise it will remain the same. This is an outrage to we the people at the highest level, and continues to demonize someone with a Campaign for Liberty sticker as a terrorist.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Libertarian Perspective on March 24, 2009, 11:01:53 am
Yeah, I love the Constitution of the United States , The Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights 1689 (Britain) and I have guns am pro-guns and general anti-abortion (but I believe it should be up to the person if they want to have one). I have political stickers on my car and Prisonplanet stickers, so what am I on the FBI most wanted yet or what?
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: TheWeavingSpider on March 24, 2009, 04:55:08 pm
Pro-Lifers and Christians are still on the list.

It seems anyone anti-NWO is now a threat, they've claimed we're crazy for so long, now there's this kinda stuff.

Soon, we'll all get hunted down, freakin' Nazis!
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Swmorgan77 on March 26, 2009, 09:49:29 am
Pro-Lifers and Christians are still on the list.

It seems anyone anti-NWO is now a threat, they've claimed we're crazy for so long, now there's this kinda stuff.

Soon, we'll all get hunted down, freakin' Nazis!

Yeah this was not a "retraction" or "apology" in any sense.  All they did was give a backhanded apology to the politicians they named, acknowledged the way that doing so opens them up to legal action, and have kept all of the misinformation about individuals based on their policy positions which IMO is more frightening than associating supporters of a specific candidate. 

I could always hide my support for a specific candidate and avoid the consequences, but not being able to hold a position on an issue without being branded a terrorist by law enforcement is even more eggregious. 
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: thru the matrix on March 26, 2009, 08:55:02 pm
This is an OP!

It creates fear in the patriot movement, wastes peoples time and energy, and creates a tonne of noise in patriot media.

I can't believe anyone wastes more than a few minutes on this diversion.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: Flur on March 26, 2009, 10:13:58 pm
This is an OP!

It creates fear in the patriot movement, wastes peoples time and energy, and creates a tonne of noise in patriot media.

I can't believe anyone wastes more than a few minutes on this diversion.

i was gonna say something along the same lines.

it occurs to me that this is almost certainly intentional to have released this report.  they want to start defining who we are to everyone who doesn't know, classify us, and put it out there that we have some kinda terroristic agenda.. so when they do the next false flag attack and blame it on "homegrown terrorists"..  people will recall hearing terrorism being associated with this group.. predictive programming for sure.  this is entirely intentional and makes me think blackjack hit the nail right on the head.
Title: Missouri Scraps MIAC Report
Post by: jofortruth on March 27, 2009, 12:30:02 pm
Missouri Scraps MIAC Report - by Chuck Baldwin
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com:80/c2009/cbarchive_20090327.html

Quote
March 27, 2009

Well, there is still hope for liberty after all! After multiple thousands of phone calls, emails, faxes, and other communications from outraged citizens, the State of Missouri has rescinded its controversial "militia" report. This proves the point I made in this column recently that the most effective way to fight an ever-encroaching federal leviathan is to focus on our individual states.

Let me review the events of the last few weeks so as to help readers familiarize themselves with this historic--and I do mean historic--episode.

On February 20, 2009, the State of Missouri, via its Department of Public Safety, issued what was called "MIAC Strategic Report: The Modern Militia Movement." In this report, people who supported Presidential candidates Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and yours truly were referenced as being connected to potentially dangerous "militia members." But the inference did not stop there. People of conservative ideology were also identified in the State Police report as being potentially dangerous. People who held political opinions opposing abortion, illegal immigration, the New World Order, the North American Union, the Income Tax, the U.N., etc., were profiled in the MIAC report.

Interestingly enough, no left-leaning political ideologies were identified. No Islamic extremists. No environmental extremists. Only people holding "conservative" or "right-wing" philosophies were identified in the MIAC report.

The MIAC report was categorized as "Unclassified/Law Enforcement Sensitive," meaning the report was intended for law enforcement personnel only. Fortunately, an unidentified (for obvious reasons) Missouri law enforcement officer, who was extremely disturbed by this report, sent a copy to nationally syndicated radio talk show host Alex Jones. Of course, Jones immediately "blew the whistle" on the story. This was on March 11.

On March 14, the Columbia (Missouri) Daily Tribune ran a story on the subject, and on March 17, I wrote my first column about it. From that point, the story went viral.

Internet sites, radio talk show hosts, and bloggers all over America picked up the story, and thousands of outraged citizens began bombarding the appropriate officials in Missouri with protests. Even Fox News Channel talk show host Glenn Beck ran a feature on the story on Friday, March 20, and again on Monday, March 23. The Constitution Party issued a "Travel Advisory" for the State of Missouri, warning tourists and residents about the possibility of being profiled by State Police for such things as having bumper stickers with political statements on their vehicles, etc. All of this commotion was not lost on several Missouri State legislators and executive officers, either.

Missouri Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder called on Governor Jay Nixon (who had previously stood by and defended the MIAC report) to place Department of Public Safety Director John Britt on administrative leave pending an investigation into the report. In addition, several Missouri State legislators said they would introduce an amendment to the Department of Public Safety's budget barring the agency from using "state or federal funds for political profiling."

On March 23, DPS Director John Britt sent an apology letter to Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and me stating, "I have ordered that the offending report be edited so as to excise all reference to Ron Paul, Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin and to any third-party political organizations."

While Ron, Bob, and I appreciated the apology and retraction from Mr. Britt, the overriding offense of the report still lingered: namely, the report, with a very broad brush, linked people holding conservative political opinions to dangerous and violence-prone "militias," which Missouri law enforcement personnel were instructed to be on guard against. Therefore, public outcry against the MIAC report continued, Mr. Britt's apology notwithstanding.

Then, on Wednesday, March 25, the head of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, Col. James F. Keathley, ordered the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) to "permanently cease distribution" of this abysmal report. Keathley said that neither he nor Britt had read the report before it was distributed.

Keathley also noted that the report was filled with numerous spelling and grammatical errors and did not cite any sources for its broad statements about "right-wing" militias. He further said that his department would now review how the MIAC distributes intelligence reports to police officers. He said the process "needs improvement."

Dear readers, please take a bow! Because of tens of thousands of patriotic, freedom-loving Americans--including thousands of courageous Missourians--the long arm of totalitarianism was shortened just a bit.

This sordid story is truly an embarrassment to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the State of Missouri. Governor Nixon, especially, is left with egg on his face for foolishly and stupidly standing behind the report, when he had either never read it, or, if he had, was just as guilty of political profiling as the ones who wrote the report.

Why DHS, you ask? Because the MIAC report is similar to several other reports currently circulating around various State police agencies courtesy of DHS-sponsored "Fusion Centers." There is another side of this story that is even more sinister, however.

If we can continue to probe the details of the MIAC report, I am absolutely convinced we will find that this report actually originates with Morris Dees and his ultra-liberal Southern Poverty Law Center. And if my hunch (a very educated hunch, I might add) is correct, it means that the DHS and various State police agencies around the country are allowing a left-wing special interest group to use them to harass, intimidate, and profile people with conservative political opinions.

I would further proffer that those of us who are outraged by this event should not stop with the MIAC report being removed. While this is very good news, the fear and intimidation associated with those referenced in this report has already taken place. Are people opposed to abortion, illegal immigration, the Income Tax, the U.N., etc., now afraid to express their opinions publicly (especially in Missouri)? If so, this seems to me to be the basis for legal action, based on the abridgment of the First Amendment freedom of speech by a State (and perhaps federal) law enforcement agency.

There is yet another chilling question that must be answered: by saying Missouri State Police will "review" how MIAC distributes intelligence reports to police officers, does Col. Keathley mean that the State of Missouri's law enforcement agencies will continue to promote similar reports, but simply make them "Classified"? In other words, will they (and other State police agencies around the country) simply employ greater secrecy when issuing such reports, but do nothing to change the content of future reports? Hopefully not, but we shall see.

With that said, here are the lessons all of us need to take to heart:

*Every police officer, deputy sheriff, and law enforcement officer in America who believes in constitutional government, individual liberty, and the Bill of Rights needs to be alert for any report that smacks of the MIAC report, and be willing to quickly "blow the whistle" on any such report they see.

*Lovers of freedom should be much encouraged to see what can happen when they are willing to stand up to their State governing officials as they see abridgements to their liberties taking place. I say again, the best way to fight these mushrooming despotic tendencies of government we seem to see everywhere is to focus on our State governments. Do you now see why I say that? Even if DHS was behind the MIAC report, it was the State of Missouri that had to implement it; and it was the State of Missouri that (under pressure) killed it.

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CITIZENS SPEAK UP WHEN THEIR GOVT IS DEAD WRONG? YOU BET WE HAVE POWER, IF ONLY WE ARE VIGILIANT! GREAT JOB, FOLKS!

Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: jofortruth on March 27, 2009, 12:31:49 pm
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=95798.0


GOOD NEWS! SEE THIS LINK!
Title: Re: Missouri Scraps MIAC Report
Post by: jofortruth on March 27, 2009, 12:51:24 pm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/missouri-state-police-orders-halt-to-miac-report-distribution.html


Lt. Gov. Kinder calls for DPS director to be placed on leave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgQfZCrkOo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgQfZCrkOo)

Quote
Following a disturbing report from the Missouri Department of Public Safety which point to Christians, pro-life advocates as "threats to public safety," Lt. Gov. Kinder called for DPS Director Britt to be put on immediate administrative leave.
Title: Re: Missouri Governor, State Police Report: "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
Post by: L2Design on April 02, 2009, 03:47:29 am
Send them all a copy of Obama Deceptionnnnn

I hope to get mine any day nowwwww yahhhh!!!!