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Title: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: UK Lyn on December 26, 2008, 03:26:06 pm
Listened to a caller on Coast To Coast last night's show (Dec 25th).

Seems a company called BJC Healthcare are forcing mandatory Flu-shots on employees. Some have refused and been fired or walked.

Anyone know about this?

Isn't this illegal and not constitutional?

(here's one little news reference)
http://www.pharmacychoice.com/News/article.cfm?Article_ID=105405

Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Suriel on December 26, 2008, 03:27:55 pm
If you live in a right to work state they can fire you for any or no reason.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Revolt426 on December 26, 2008, 03:28:22 pm
There are always religious waivers, because of the lawsuits that could develope. They'll hide the waiver at all costs until you say you are going to call your lawyer but there has to be a waiver...
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on December 26, 2008, 03:37:54 pm
I think any private company should be able to treat their employees anyway they want. If they treat their employees like hell, word will get around and nobody (customers) will like the company so it will fail. As long as people aren't manipulated, they usually do the right thing in the end and a good balance comes naturally. In a healthy competitive society, you'd see more companies doing good stuff, because that's what the people demand. Any government regulation will kill it though. Slippery slope and all.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: barndoor77 on December 26, 2008, 03:39:44 pm
I'm not so sure, I find what happens in a society where the companies can do anything they want, they quickly have a competition to see who can be the most manipulative and abusive.  And as long as they move in lock-step it doesn't matter what you do because going to the next one is the same thing.

Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Revolt426 on December 26, 2008, 03:40:31 pm
I think any private company should be able to treat their employees anyway they want. If they treat their employees like hell, word will get around and nobody (customers) will like the company so it will fail. As long as people aren't manipulated, they usually do the right thing in the end and a good balance comes naturally. In a healthy competitive society, you'd see more companies doing good stuff, because that's what the people demand. Any government regulation will kill it though. Slippery slope and all.
I wish it worked that way but it doesn't. JP Morgan Chase is the most evil  bank in the U.S. yet they have the largest Deposit base. Markets making themselves perfect is a fallacy, there always has to be some sort of regulations. If Glass/Steagall had not been repealed in 1999 then the Derivative circus would never have happened, as an example of an effective regulation. (Glass steagall act prevented Commercial Banks from merging with Investment banks) such has the merger of Bank of America and Merrill Lynch.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on December 26, 2008, 03:51:57 pm
I'm not so sure, I find what happens in a society where the companies can do anything they want, they quickly have a competition to see who can be the most manipulative and abusive.  And as long as they move in lock-step it doesn't matter what you do because going to the next one is the same thing.



True, so that's why we the people have to pay more attention and vote with our wallets.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on December 26, 2008, 04:02:02 pm
I wish it worked that way but it doesn't. JP Morgan Chase is the most evil  bank in the U.S. yet they have the largest Deposit base. Markets making themselves perfect is a fallacy, there always has to be some sort of regulations. If Glass/Steagall had not been repealed in 1999 then the Derivative circus would never have happened, as an example of an effective regulation. (Glass steagall act prevented Commercial Banks from merging with Investment banks) such has the merger of Bank of America and Merrill Lynch.

I would add that scandals and corruption are enabled by government. They'd be plain old crime without the government to help open doors, pay fees and change legislation in their favor. The point being "government" is the root cause of almost everything. The banking/financial market is rigged -- because of prohibitive market entry regulations. And it is elitist at the top. Not a free market, therefore rigged.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 26, 2008, 04:13:18 pm
Quote
Listened to a caller on Coast To Coast last night's show (Dec 25th).

Seems a company called BJC Healthcare are forcing mandatory Flu-shots on employees. Some have refused and been fired or walked.

Anyone know about this?

Isn't this illegal and not constitutional?

(here's one little news reference)
http://www.pharmacychoice.com/News/article.cfm?Article_ID=105405







    
BJC HealthCare is one of the largest nonprofit health care organizations in the United States, delivering services to residents primarily in the greater St. Louis, southern Illinois and mid-Missouri regions. With net revenue of $3.1 billion, BJC serves urban, suburban and rural communities and includes 13 hospitals and multiple community health locations. Services include inpatient and outpatient care, primary care, community health and wellness, workplace health, home health, community mental health, rehabilitation, long-term care and hospice.

Healthcare companies assume that employees should take the shots because they give out the shots.  Yes, it's unconstitutional but the USA rarely uses the constitution anymore. 

http://www.bjc.org/

 
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: munkey on December 26, 2008, 04:22:49 pm
I think any private company should be able to treat their employees anyway they want. If they treat their employees like hell, word will get around and nobody (customers) will like the company so it will fail. As long as people aren't manipulated, they usually do the right thing in the end and a good balance comes naturally. In a healthy competitive society, you'd see more companies doing good stuff, because that's what the people demand. Any government regulation will kill it though. Slippery slope and all.
if only that was the case, people making NIKE probably would disagree with you about word getting out and people not buying their products.

McDonalds can hire juniors and make them work all sorts of shifts and still people eat the crap.

When the economy is going bad and people need a job, they will waiver basic rights just to feed their families, there still needs to be a basic set of rules so employers don't take advantage of employees, in all honesty, most people are so unconcerened with others well being as long as they can get something cheap.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on December 26, 2008, 04:37:11 pm
if only that was the case, people making NIKE probably would disagree with you about word getting out and people not buying their products.

McDonalds can hire juniors and make them work all sorts of shifts and still people eat the crap.

When the economy is going bad and people need a job, they will waiver basic rights just to feed their families, there still needs to be a basic set of rules so employers don't take advantage of employees, in all honesty, most people are so unconcerened with others well being as long as they can get something cheap.

I'm convinced that if we transfer all of the "government's roles" back to each and every individual, that they would experience personal responsibility for what it really is. It's when you get to control your own destiny. With the NIKE situation, you could say that's evidence of the dumbing down/short attention spans of our people... they have no personal stake in it so their support is fleeting.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: uwaf on December 26, 2008, 04:48:22 pm
http://www.enviroairmask.com/bird_flu_article.html


Flu mist contains viruses



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbryc6EBnzQ
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Revolt426 on December 26, 2008, 04:52:16 pm
You cannot transfer every Government role to the people because nothing will get done. People fail to realize that there are necassary GOV jobs. State Universities, shall we shut them all down because they are part of the State Government?. I can name dozens of required Government jobs, saying all Government roles should be abolished is extremist, actually its anarchist. The Post office is a GOV institution and works efficiently, it isn't the policy, it's the idiots the U.S. People elect to run the institutions that are the problems.

I would agree though, we do need an extreme downsizing in FEDERAL government roles, DEP of Education, Homeland Security and the 10 or so other beurocracies.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on December 26, 2008, 05:00:47 pm
You cannot transfer every Government role to the people because nothing will get done. People fail to realize that there are necassary GOV jobs. State Universities, shall we shut them all down because they are part of the State Government?. I can name dozens of required Government jobs, saying all Government roles should be abolished is extremist, actually its anarchist. The Post office is a GOV institution and works efficiently, it isn't the policy, it's the idiots the U.S. People elect to run the institutions that are the problems.

I would agree though, we do need an extreme downsizing in FEDERAL government roles, DEP of Education, Homeland Security and the 10 or so other beurocracies.

I look at it as a principle that yes, stuff needs to get done, but who is responsible for that? Why top-down government bureaucracy over free association - like the various industry associations who get together, voluntarily, for professional development, coordination, joint initiatives, etc. Free market principles can fix any problem on the planet. All that's in the way is government meddling.

Cooperation will emerge in a pure, free, society, and even though it will change over time, things like theft, slavery, killing, rape, etc. - which would quickly diminish - would always be crimes. Freedom works!
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Revolt426 on December 26, 2008, 05:13:33 pm
I am not gonna get into one of these free market arguments again. All i can say is, go research the Austrian Free Market school, how and why it was invented and what they teach, because it's not what you think. Other than that, i can just respect your opinion and respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Brocke on December 26, 2008, 05:22:13 pm
I work for a subsidiary of the primary telecom provider here in Australia. We all get emails at least once a month offering free health screening; blood sugar, blood pressure, Body Mass Index, Live blood analysis, cardio health checks, etc.

I doubt that the results of these voluntary tests are solely for the employees edification. Most likely the results are passed on to other depts like HR. They seem to be health profiling.  :P
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on December 26, 2008, 05:32:43 pm
I am not gonna get into one of these free market arguments again. All i can say is, go research the Austrian Free Market school, how and why it was invented and what they teach, because it's not what you think. Other than that, i can just respect your opinion and respectfully disagree.

I hear you. I'm in no mood for 'battle' either but so you know where I'm coming from, it's not Rothbard or Austrian, or even Ron Paul, although I love much of that stuff. I approach it from a personal viewpoint: I feel I should be free to do whatever I want, including opting out of any associations with the government. Anything goes, as long as it's voluntary and respectful of others' same freedom to be who they are. Sure, I can do "questionable things" from an accepted point of view, but isn't that half the fun of life?

But more than just the free-spirited angle, the same spirit and innovation applies to business and society. Just my opinion of course (but I'm right!).
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: nofakenews on December 26, 2008, 06:37:37 pm
If you live in a right to work state they can fire you for any or no reason.

Yep you got it and also look in your purse or wallet as long as you leave it on the office desk.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: sventvkg on December 26, 2008, 08:12:05 pm
Listened to a caller on Coast To Coast last night's show (Dec 25th).

Seems a company called BJC Healthcare are forcing mandatory Flu-shots on employees. Some have refused and been fired or walked.

Anyone know about this?

Isn't this illegal and not constitutional?

(here's one little news reference)
http://www.pharmacychoice.com/News/article.cfm?Article_ID=105405



Yea, they did this at my room mates Job as well. She works for Providence Health Care in Alaska. A Bunch of people have refused. The administration said is was because they didn't want patients to get the flu from workers but get this. THE DOCTORS HAVE NO REQUIREMENT TO GET THE SHOTS. Only Nurses and all other employees...The reason states was because Doctors are not staff, they are private contractors. Totally negates the bogus reason they gave to the Employees if the Doctors don't have to get the shots.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: sociostudent on December 26, 2008, 08:15:32 pm
Yep, the economic situation ALONE is ALREADY forcing people to do things they normally would refuse, such as getting flu shots, taking microchips, and being willing to hook up "the big brother machine", just to keep them and their family fed. The job market looks HORRIBLE right now, and they know they'd rather be a slave who can feed his family than a free man who can't.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: sventvkg on December 26, 2008, 09:08:28 pm
If it comes to that for me, I will go take what I need from the Elite if necessary. I think many will do the same. When it gets that bad, then the whole country will be coming apart but I know where to get what I need should I need it. So do you.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Monkeypox on December 27, 2008, 01:30:33 am
If you live in a right to work state they can fire you for any or no reason.


Actually, you mean an "At Will" state.

"Right To Work" has to do with Unions.

 ;D

Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Anti_Illuminati on December 27, 2008, 01:40:10 am
Title should read:  "You must commit suicide slowly (or quickly, who knows), or you will be fired."

Vaccines/flu shots are guns.  Treat them as such.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: chris jones on December 27, 2008, 08:57:57 am
Yep, the economic situation ALONE is ALREADY forcing people to do things they normally would refuse, such as getting flu shots, taking microchips, and being willing to hook up "the big brother machine", just to keep them and their family fed. The job market looks HORRIBLE right now, and they know they'd rather be a slave who can feed his family than a free man who can't.

Yout hit it!!!!!!! Very good, excellant in fact. What you have said in this one regard will soon apply to majority of our people.

Do it, or we will break you and your family!!!  A threat of the worst kind, they are freaks of nature.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: SlaveState on December 27, 2008, 10:43:48 am
But wait...these people work for an evil company that GIVES flu shots but they won't receive them. Seems like poetic justice to me.

If your paycheck comes from handing out deadly shots to others then you better check your morals and get out or be willing to suffer just the same.

They were happy to hand them out when it wasn't affecting them.

(yes, I agree that employers should never have this kind of power BUT in this case it seems to be ironic that the company is a healthcare provider)
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: wvoutlaw2002 on December 27, 2008, 11:14:58 am
If you live in a right to work state they can fire you for any or no reason.

Wrong. It's an at-will state where they can fire you for any reason or no reason.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: JBS on December 27, 2008, 10:31:37 pm
Sure I'd take the shot, as long as the executives all took their poison too!
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: goetface on December 28, 2008, 01:09:02 pm
Yea, they did this at my room mates Job as well. She works for Providence Health Care in Alaska. A Bunch of people have refused. The administration said is was because they didn't want patients to get the flu from workers but get this. THE DOCTORS HAVE NO REQUIREMENT TO GET THE SHOTS. Only Nurses and all other employees...The reason states was because Doctors are not staff, they are private contractors. Totally negates the bogus reason they gave to the Employees if the Doctors don't have to get the shots.

Nurses are also contract if you ask me and im pretty damn sure of it, we as doctors practice under a liscense that we obtain through the state. We are allowed to pratice under our scopes of practice where and when we want, these assholes best get it straight.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: changedname on December 28, 2008, 01:25:47 pm
It is time for people to realize that they are the producers and the consumers...The people have the real power not these business's and government officials..We give our power over to them to be able to do these things to us by not sticking together and refusing to work for or buy services or product from them. Maybe some day we will realize our power and take it back to stop participating totally to show them that we don't have to buy their product or give our service to them in any way to allow them to treat us as slaves!!!!!!
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: HWNA on December 29, 2008, 10:53:08 pm
Regardless of government regulations (or lack thereof), corporations will treat their employees just as badly as their employees will let them.

And seeing how we are a nation of sedated sheep, most people will accept being treated like shit and continue to collect their woefully inadequate paychecks.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on December 30, 2008, 09:15:15 am
It is time for people to realize that they are the producers and the consumers...The people have the real power not these business's and government officials..We give our power over to them to be able to do these things to us by not sticking together and refusing to work for or buy services or product from them. Maybe some day we will realize our power and take it back to stop participating totally to show them that we don't have to buy their product or give our service to them in any way to allow them to treat us as slaves!!!!!!

Yes, we have to vote with our wallets!

Quote
HWNA
Regardless of government regulations (or lack thereof), corporations will treat their employees just as badly as their employees will let them.

I would say that we're in this mess because of government regulation since they devise regulations, not with a warm heart, but to benefit some at the expense of others. Therefore, no free market at work: just a fake, rigged one with a hidden agenda.

Regulation and standards are important, but leave that up to the industry itself to develop and implement - voluntarily. Most industry associations, NGOs and think tanks exist to a) promote their industry internally and externally and b) to lobby government to make, modify or eliminate regulation in their favour. If you remove b), all they're left with is persuasion, which is perfect.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: 241727 on December 30, 2008, 09:46:45 am
Quote from: The Article link=http://www.pharmacychoice.com/News/article.cfm?Article_ID=105405
Some years, the flu shot doesn't cover the dominant influenza strain, making it less than completely effective.

Spot the under statement anyone ?

Its much easier in these situations to point out
"BUT IT DOES NOT WORK !"

It will definitely make you sick for 3 days, it is unlikely to work.
Medical ethics dictate "Do No Harm".
Medical ethics also prevent such bogus science.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: John_Back_From_The_Club_O on February 25, 2009, 10:44:11 am
If BJC is FORCE vaccinating they ARE in violation of the Nuremberg Code.  Which IS an international violation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Code)

John Back From The Club Of Rome

http://www.thoughts.com/HipapocaraatesVaccines/blog]http://www.thoughts.com/HipapocaraatesVaccines/blog]http://www.thoughts.com/HipapocaraatesVaccines/blog (http://www.thoughts.com/HipapocaraatesVaccines/blog)
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: sociostudent on August 07, 2009, 08:25:43 am
The thing I'm wondering is, would the corporations still be going along with all this if they knew that the vaccine (with the adjuvant) was going to cause largely NON-deadly, but EXPENSIVE, CHRONIC conditions, like MS, Lupus, or RA (that the rest of the employees are going to have to pay for via the trickle-down effect)?
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: planet5 on September 15, 2009, 05:48:19 pm
be advised that it is no coincidence that this man was fired from his chancellor position being sponsored by all those rockefeller-nazi interests in eugenics that sponsor quite a few major labs in the usa and england-germany.
two of those interests were plum island and coldspringslabs,both in new york state.
elizabeth holtzman could probably giive a fine disertation on the evils that have developed from them in the form of human genome and embryology DNA studies since 2007.
since the original pluum island animal genome studies and the explosion at the lab(no accident I am sure)
they have done research into tagging and memorizeing the human genome dna structure of the embroyo so that a way can be found to terminate by vaccines or biotoxins from the air,the fetus or make it not form at all.
the 1918 spanish flu was stored at plum island and was then worked on to transform it into the new H1N1 flu vaccines which carry a genetic time-bomb element to trigger those effects years down the line in your children.
the main result of all this is the sterilization of the next generation as well as weakening the already disabled or debilitated.
in this way the new world order fells it can keep the population to a minimum elite(scientist,politician,military)and have less mouths to feed as well as weakening any physical ground forces we in the usa might have to fight an additional third world war to eradicate that illuminist order on the other side of the pond. a brilliant scheme that we are now onto,however.

charles buchanan

VERITAS LUX MEA,in his service


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By CORNELIA DEAN
Published: October 25, 2007
James D. Watson, the eminent biologist who ignited an uproar last week with remarks about the intelligence of people of African descent, retired today as chancellor of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory on Long Island and from its board.
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James D. Watson in London in June.

 Back Story With Cornelia Dean and David Corcoran
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Text: Statement by James D. Watson (October 25, 2007)
Text: Announcement by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (October 25, 2007)
In a statement, he noted that, at 79, he is “overdue” to surrender leadership positions at the lab, which he joined as director in 1968 and served as president until 2003. But he said the circumstances of his resignation “are not those which I could ever have anticipated or desired.”
Dr. Watson, who shared the 1962 Nobel Prize for describing the double-helix structure of DNA, and later headed the American government’s part in the international Human Genome Project, was quoted in The Times of London last week as suggesting that, overall, people of African descent are not as intelligent as people of European descent. In the ensuing uproar, he issued a statement apologizing “unreservedly” for the comments, adding “there is no scientific basis for such a belief.”
But Dr. Watson, who has a reputation for making sometimes incendiary off-the-cuff remarks, did not say he had been misquoted.
Within days, the Cold Spring board had relieved him of the administrative responsibilities of the chancellor’s job. In that position, a spokesman for the laboratory said, he was most involved with educational efforts and fund-raising.
Rockefeller University has cancelled a lecture Dr. Watson was to have given Wednesday at a ceremony honoring him and “The Double Helix,” the book he wrote about the elucidation of DNA.
“There were some members of the university community who had expressed reservations about Dr. Watson coming here to speak after the controversy over his remarks in the U.K.,” Joseph Bonner, Rockefeller’s director of communications, said today.
He said that just as its president, Paul Nurse, had decided to cancel the event, Dr. Watson called to suggest the same thing. Dr. Watson will receive the prize, the Lewis Thomas Award, at another time not yet set. The university gives the prize annually to scientists whose books bridge the gap between the laboratory and the wider world.
In the years after he left Harvard to direct the laboratory, Dr. Watson transformed it from a small facility into a world-class institution prominent in research on cancer, plant biology, neuroscience and computational biology, the board said in announcing his retirement. Bruce Stillman, who succeeded him as president, said today that he had created an “unparalleled” research environment at the laboratory.
In his statement, Dr. Watson said the work of the Human Genome Project, an international effort which deciphered the chemical contents of human genes, had opened the door to work on many diseases, particularly illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, ailments he said have afflicted members of his family.
He also referred to his Scots and Irish forebears, saying their lives were guided by faith in reason and social justice, “especially the need for those on top to help care for the less fortunate.”
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Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: stuart1964 on October 04, 2009, 04:04:54 am
This may be of use to anyone in Britain wondering where they stand with regard to mandatory flu shots.

I got a response from an e-petition signed on the 10 Downing street web site: "“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to ban the use of swine flu vaccinations due to the fact the vaccinations contain a man made weaponized swine flu virus which will cause death or serious injury to members of the public.”

This was the response, most of it is the usual bs but I have underlined the key part, which may be of use to some.

Read the Government’s response
Thank you for your e-petition.  The European Medicines Agency (EMA) has strict processes in place for licensing pandemic vaccines.

In preparing for a pandemic, appropriate trials to assess safety and the immune responses have been carried out on vaccines very similar to the swine flu vaccine. The vaccines have been shown to have a good safety profile.

No decision has been taken to embark on a mass vaccination campaign, but any vaccination against swine flu would not be compulsory.  Everyone has a right to refuse the swine flu vaccination, or any other vaccination.  Where a child is too young to consent themselves to being vaccinated, the right to decide rests with the person with parental responsibility.

There was no vaccine available to protect against the 1918/19 Spanish flu.  However, the UK will be in the fortunate position of being able to offer protection to those most at risk from swine flu once the vaccine becomes available.

People should be reassured that so far the virus is generally mild in most cases. However, it is proving more serious in some cases and sadly a small number of people have died. The World Health Organisation (WHO) advice is that serious cases should be treated immediately.

The UK is one of the best-prepared countries in the world when it comes to dealing with the pandemic. We have a large stockpile of antivirals, and the vaccine is in the process of being licensed. NHS organisations have plans in place to cope with the effects of a pandemic.

The Government will continue to take the best independent scientific advice to inform our decisions on vaccination issues.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: stuart1964 on October 04, 2009, 05:01:52 am
when it say newbie it isn't kidding

heres the link to the 10 downing street response

http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page20729
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: planet5 on October 06, 2009, 05:01:58 pm
ALREADY HAPPENING,and the consequences of the adjuvants in the nasal spray live virus is even more contagious and will be propagated thru the children themselves as well as being part of the WHO globalist long term population control eugenics program the rockefellers and the rothschilds have put in play for years in other countries such as argentina,south america and african countries to reduce the populations by sterilizeing and abortion by vaccination(aids,malaria-tetanus prime examp



http://dprogram.net/2009/09/17/video-project-camelot-interviews-jane-burgermeister-on-swine-f









If you do nothing else check out this video about the h1n1 vaccination process....dont just take my word for it! I have provided the link.

I wonder what type of letters the school administrators are sending to parents of children in portland and elsewhere,telling them where and how they can get the shots(maybe even at the schools)
If they dont then as we talked about there will be consequences of CPS involvement and missed time at work,etc,if parents do not comply.

let me know what you think

 

 

 
 
 
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: bigron on October 07, 2009, 10:09:02 am
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1006/csmimg/cartoon.jpg
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: planet5 on October 07, 2009, 02:19:43 pm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
be advised that it is no coincidence that this man was fired from his
chancellor position being sponsored by all those rockefeller-nazi
interests in eugenics that sponsor quite a few major labs in the usa
and england-germany.
two of those interests were plum island and coldspringslabs,both in
new york state.
elizabeth holtzman could probably giive a fine disertation on the
evils that have developed from them in the form of human genome and
embryology DNA studies since 2007.
since the original pluum island animal genome studies and the
explosion at the lab(no accident I am sure)
they have done research into tagging and memorizeing the human genome
dna structure of the embroyo so that a way can be found to terminate
by vaccines or biotoxins from the air,the fetus or make it not form
at all.
the 1918 spanish flu was stored at plum island and was then worked on
to transform it into the new H1N1 flu vaccines which carry a genetic
time-bomb element to trigger those effects years down the line in
your children.
the main result of all this is the sterilization of the next
generation as well as weakening the already disabled or debilitated.
in this way the new world order fells it can keep the population to a
minimum elite(scientist,politician,military)and have less mouths to
feed as well as weakening any physical ground forces we in the usa
might have to fight an additional third world war to eradicate that
illuminist order on the other side of the pond. a brilliant scheme
that we are now onto,however.

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VERITAS LUX MEA,in his service


James Watson Retires After Racial Remarks


By CORNELIA DEAN
Published: October 25, 2007
James D. Watson, the eminent biologist who ignited an uproar last
week with remarks about the intelligence of people of African
descent, retired today as chancellor of the Cold Spring Harbor
Laboratory on Long Island and from its board.

James D. Watson in London in June.

  Back Story With Cornelia Dean and David Corcoran
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Text: Statement by James D. Watson (October 25, 2007)
Text: Announcement by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (October 25, 2007)
In a statement, he noted that, at 79, he is “overdue” to surrender
leadership positions at the lab, which he joined as director in 1968
and served as president until 2003. But he said the circumstances of
his resignation “are not those which I could ever have anticipated or
desired.”
Dr. Watson, who shared the 1962 Nobel Prize for describing the
double-helix structure of DNA, and later headed the American
government’s part in the international Human Genome Project, was
quoted in The Times of London last week as suggesting that, overall,
people of African descent are not as intelligent as people of
European descent. In the ensuing uproar, he issued a statement
apologizing “unreservedly” for the comments, adding “there is no
scientific basis for such a belief.”
But Dr. Watson, who has a reputation for making sometimes incendiary
off-the-cuff remarks, did not say he had been misquoted.
Within days, the Cold Spring board had relieved him of the
administrative responsibilities of the chancellor’s job. In that
position, a spokesman for the laboratory said, he was most involved
with educational efforts and fund-raising.
Rockefeller University has cancelled a lecture Dr. Watson was to have
given Wednesday at a ceremony honoring him and “The Double Helix,”
the book he wrote about the elucidation of DNA.
“There were some members of the university community who had
expressed reservations about Dr. Watson coming here to speak after
the controversy over his remarks in the U.K.,” Joseph Bonner,
Rockefeller’s director of communications, said today.
He said that just as its president, Paul Nurse, had decided to cancel
the event, Dr. Watson called to suggest the same thing. Dr. Watson
will receive the prize, the Lewis Thomas Award, at another time not
yet set. The university gives the prize annually to scientists whose
books bridge the gap between the laboratory and the wider world.
In the years after he left Harvard to direct the laboratory, Dr.
Watson transformed it from a small facility into a world-class
institution prominent in research on cancer, plant biology,
neuroscience and computational biology, the board said in announcing
his retirement. Bruce Stillman, who succeeded him as president, said
today that he had created an “unparalleled” research environment at
the laboratory.
In his statement, Dr. Watson said the work of the Human Genome
Project, an international effort which deciphered the chemical
contents of human genes, had opened the door to work on many
diseases, particularly illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar
disorder, ailments he said have afflicted members of his family.
He also referred to his Scots and Irish forebears, saying their lives
were guided by faith in reason and social justice, “especially the
need for those on top to help care for the less fortunate.”




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Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Republic Renewal on October 08, 2009, 09:18:04 pm
As an answer to the first post, VERY ILLEGAL. This is forced vaccinations! Where I work they have optional shots but how long before they become mandatory!!!??
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Ruth on August 20, 2010, 10:17:06 pm
Yes, forcing people to undergo physical assault and then punishing them if they refuse to have that done to them should be illegal.

The upshot of this is that the people trying to do this SAY that a flu shot is 'good' for you and even necessary.  I'm not sure if this is true and we haven't seen enough evidence to support this idea.  For some vaccines this may be the case, but not for all.

In fact, a flu shot may be uneccessary and could even be harmful.  So, who benefits?  Well, that will be the people who get all the money from the 'exercise', won't it?  Drug companies and all the people they bribe... like the WHO for instance.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on August 20, 2010, 10:19:08 pm
Yes, forcing people to undergo physical assault and then punishing them if they refuse to have that done to them should be illegal.

The upshot of this is that the people trying to do this SAY that a flu shot is 'good' for you and even necessary.  I'm not sure if this is true and we haven't seen enough evidence to support this idea.  For some vaccines this may be the case, but not for all.

In fact, a flu shot may be uneccessary and could even be harmful.  So, who benefits?  Well, that will be the people who get all the money from the 'exercise', won't it?  Drug companies and all the people they bribe... like the WHO for instance.

If you can't trust the medical/pharmaceutical industry, which we can't, you'd be insane to injest or inject ANYTHING they offer.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: LivingintheMatrix on September 01, 2010, 06:29:59 am
I've heard from some people that they have had mandatory flu/h1n1 shots but i personally i never been told to get one.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: tritonman on September 01, 2010, 07:02:38 am
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Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Ruth on October 19, 2010, 06:49:36 am
If you can't trust the medical/pharmaceutical industry, which we can't, you'd be insane to injest or inject ANYTHING they offer.

Nope..., not quite that simple.  The majority of people in these industries are genuine and benificent - or try to be, by nature.

But you'd be insane to do ANYTHING without good information and good research.  People who profit and harm others (and they're not just in the medical and pharmaceutical industry, btw - quite a few at the moment are in government and military organisations), rely on people's ignorance in order to harm them.  If people are not ignorant they have a much harder time harming them.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Brocke on October 19, 2010, 12:53:17 pm
Nope..., not quite that simple.  The majority of people in these industries are genuine and benificent - or try to be, by nature.

But you'd be insane to do ANYTHING without good information and good research.  People who profit and harm others (and they're not just in the medical and pharmaceutical industry, btw - quite a few at the moment are in government and military organisations), rely on people's ignorance in order to harm them.  If people are not ignorant they have a much harder time harming them.

The Pharmaceutical Industry is the same as the Tobacco Industry or the Weapons Industry. They are not concerned with the health and well being of their customers. Even worse than the Tobacco or Weapons Industry the Pharmaceutical Industry's reputation is based on the trust of their clientele that they are obligated to operate in a fashion that will guarantee no harm will come to their clients.

This of course is not true. The Pharmaceutical Industry consistently operates in a fashions that actually harm the clients. The majority of people in these industries are not necessarily "genuine and beneficent". They are either ignorant or uncaring of the harm they do.

Examples:

Bayer and Baxter knowingly infected hemophiliac patients with hiv/aids tainted Factor 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs

The company claimed it acted "responsibly, ethically and humanely"...


Dr John Rengen Virapen Big Pharma Whistleblower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmi3ihrUHJU

Dr. John Rengen Virapen worked 35 years for Eli Lilly & Co as an executive. He now speaks out on the many crimes Big Pharma was and is responsible for and he himself also participated in. Unfortunately, many of its crimes go passed public awareness as it enjoys the unethical protection from its big allies, the mainstream media, the FDA and governments.


Ex-Pharmaceutical Rep. Speaks Out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFbs8s3VI6M

Gwen Olsen is a woman who use to be a pharmaceutical sales rep for 15 years until her niece killed herself while taking antidepressants.


Money Talks: Profits Before Patient Safety

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmp2n-vFdwk

This 50-minute documentary was created to give an in-depth, academic perspective on the questionable marketing tactics of the pharmaceutical industry, and features the commentary of investigative journalists and medical professionals including Dr. John Abramson, author of Overdosed America, and Prescription Access Litigation Project Director, Alex Sugerman-Brozan. Other notable interviewees include Dr. Bob Goodman of Columbia University, founder of the 'No Free Lunch' program, and Dr. Jerome Hoffman of UCLA Medical School.


Peter Rost "The Whistleblower"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05hoNczX1h8

Maria Bartiromo interviews Peter Rost, Vice President Pfizer about drug costs


Pfizer Whistle Blower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3jfriQB_-k

Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: No2NWO on January 22, 2011, 05:28:38 pm
In 2004 I decided to get a "Supermarket Special" flu shot. I awoke the following day with Bell's Palsy where the right half of my face was paralyzed for months. Luckily I'm not the type of person who is fixated on their looks or it would have been an extremely hard time. As it were the simple fact of not being able to blink my right eye coupled with the obvious difficulties in eating and drinking was arduous enough. Let them come at me with their needles and see what happens. Never again.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on January 22, 2011, 06:09:08 pm
In 2004 I decided to get a "Supermarket Special" flu shot. I awoke the following day with Bell's Palsy where the right half of my face was paralyzed for months. Luckily I'm not the type of person who is fixated on their looks or it would have been an extremely hard time. As it were the simple fact of not being able to blink my right eye coupled with the obvious difficulties in eating and drinking was arduous enough. Let them come at me with their needles and see what happens. Never again.

I have a buddy who suddenly developed Bell's Palsy, too, although I don't know if he had been recently vaccinated -- but will ask. He made a full recovery after 6 months. Did yours go away?
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: No2NWO on January 22, 2011, 08:41:04 pm
I have a buddy who suddenly developed Bell's Palsy, too, although I don't know if he had been recently vaccinated -- but will ask. He made a full recovery after 6 months. Did yours go away?

Thanks for asking.... yes. I'd say I had above 95% recovery. I still have a spasm or tick from time to time that stays as a reminder. It mostly went away after 5 or 6 months if I remember right. I hope your buddy has the same luck.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on January 22, 2011, 08:56:08 pm
Thanks for asking.... yes. I'd say I had above 95% recovery. I still have a spasm or tick from time to time that stays as a reminder. It mostly went away after 5 or 6 months if I remember right. I hope your buddy has the same luck.

Good to hear! My friend seems to be totally free of it. BTW - I believe Bell's Palsy is what the Canadian jerk Prime Minister, Jean Chretien, had, but it stayed with him. It's a strange thing.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: definitely mean on April 13, 2011, 08:06:51 pm
My employer told me that I had to have a flu shot.  I showed him a copy of my food allergy results and it showed that I am allergic to eggs.  I eat eggs all of the time.  He gave me a choice a shot or termination.  I picked up a stack of reports for his 175 column spreadsheet and I walked to the shredder and turned it on.  I gave him a choice, either he puts in writing that he waives my mandatory flu shot and that I cannot be terminated for any reason or I will shred the documents and he will be terminated.

I'm still working and so is he.  I have told my Dr. never order any immunizations on my chart or she'll regret it.  She ordered a pneumonia and flu shot without my permission and my refusal to take one.  I found out that she was writing scripts for drug addicts, now she is being watched by the DEA.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: JosephW on July 06, 2011, 02:35:49 pm
The place I used to work at had voluntary flu shots. A lot of people got them but not everyone. They also had blood drives where you could give blood but there was no pressure. I was thinking I had read a story where it was 'highly recommended' that the workers get the H1N1 shot because they were either EMTs or hospital workers. Aren't malaria or other vaccines required to travel to certain parts of the world? Is that legal?
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: WLGarrison on September 04, 2011, 09:40:09 am
Unless you have a contract, you are an employee-at-will, and the employer can do almost anything.  Their logic is that you are not forced to do anything because you have the option of quiting.  We worked hard to create worker protections, and they are slowly being eroded.  The free marketers don't remember what it was like before workplace protection.  Child labor, unsafe coal mines, company housing & stores.  If you spoke up back then, you would be blacklisted and never work again.  We are slowly returning to those days.  They have started with the assault on public sector workers, but that's just the latest front in the war on the working class.  They will be coming for the private sector workers next.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Djanvk on October 09, 2011, 08:11:06 pm
I just want to throw out there that I work at a hospital and as it's not "Mandatory" to get a flu shot you must sign a waiver.  However if you do refuese this shot and sign the waiver you are required to wear a mask your whole shift if you work in patient care.  So basically I can refuse but I must wear a mask for 12hrs on my shift until the end of flu season.  Really it depends what you want to deal with here.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: ramicio on November 05, 2011, 05:29:16 pm
I think any private company should be able to treat their employees anyway they want. If they treat their employees like hell, word will get around and nobody (customers) will like the company so it will fail. As long as people aren't manipulated, they usually do the right thing in the end and a good balance comes naturally. In a healthy competitive society, you'd see more companies doing good stuff, because that's what the people demand. Any government regulation will kill it though. Slippery slope and all.

In today's society, enough people do not care about such treatment to boycott a corporation out of existence.  All they care about is a bargain.  But yes, a company can do what they want.  I don't get why privately owned businesses don't have a say in if they can allow smoking or not.  They are NOT public.  Just because you are "out in public" doesn't mean it is a publicly-owned place.  I can't believe that people are so adamant about not having to be around smoke at a bar that they feel there should be legal action, instead of them simply just going to another place, one which maybe doesn't allow smoking.  I guess I got a little off track.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on November 05, 2011, 05:59:50 pm
In today's society, enough people do not care about such treatment to boycott a corporation out of existence.  All they care about is a bargain.  But yes, a company can do what they want.  I don't get why privately owned businesses don't have a say in if they can allow smoking or not.  They are NOT public.  Just because you are "out in public" doesn't mean it is a publicly-owned place.  I can't believe that people are so adamant about not having to be around smoke at a bar that they feel there should be legal action, instead of them simply just going to another place, one which maybe doesn't allow smoking.  I guess I got a little off track.

Yes, but we have been trained and conditioned to mindlessly shop. Reclaiming our personal responsibility, along with its humungous benefits for society as a whole, is the heart of the matter in my books.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: decemberfellow on November 05, 2011, 07:27:55 pm
Unless you have a contract, you are an employee-at-will, and the employer can do almost anything.  Their logic is that you are not forced to do anything because you have the option of quiting.  We worked hard to create worker protections, and they are slowly being eroded.  The free marketers don't remember what it was like before workplace protection.  Child labor, unsafe coal mines, company housing & stores.  If you spoke up back then, you would be blacklisted and never work again.  We are slowly returning to those days.  They have started with the assault on public sector workers, but that's just the latest front in the war on the working class.  They will be coming for the private sector workers next.

If the people would unite things would change, but they won't, we always hear the same excuses, Ah I can't afford it or I need my job, blah blah, and tptb know that.  Personally in answer to this title I would get fired, but thats just me.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on November 05, 2011, 07:57:07 pm
If the people would unite things would change, but they won't, we always hear the same excuses, Ah I can't afford it or I need my job, blah blah, and tptb know that.  Personally in answer to this title I would get fired, but thats just me.

Yes, divide and conquer... the oldest trick in the book!

They don't want us to look at the root of the problem, so they keep us distracted with what you mention above, and a lot more. It's constant as you know.

The root of the problem is that "someone/anyone" would have ultimate dominance over us. How could anyone support that? But we all do through our taxes, fees, registrations, licences, IRS, DEA, NATO, IMF, World Bank (LOL!), UNESCO, CFR, Trilateralists, Bilderbergs, Club-O-Romers, Carnegieites, the Department of Education. (WTF?!? :o) We fund our own enslavement because we're easily bought. Pretty sad, actually.

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Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: global_fiefdom on November 05, 2011, 08:02:49 pm
rich bitches say no
we should copy them and say no

if statistics are to be believed it is the rich and educated who exempt themselves the most.
don't be stupid, don't be dead
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Ruth on November 18, 2011, 08:32:27 pm
I think any private company should be able to treat their employees anyway they want. If they treat their employees like hell, word will get around and nobody (customers) will like the company so it will fail. As long as people aren't manipulated, they usually do the right thing in the end and a good balance comes naturally. In a healthy competitive society, you'd see more companies doing good stuff, because that's what the people demand. Any government regulation will kill it though. Slippery slope and all.

I'm wondering what you would consider to be a 'private company'?  Could it be something that is defined by regulated by government law?  And if we try to find a private company doesn't come under this description, would organised crime fit into that?

There is something to be said for government regulation, which is MEANT to protect the individual from the actions of psychopaths (and we do include companies in this definition).  Government regulation (in the form of laws) is meant to protect the individual rather than harm them.  Recently, in the health field, they have made some bad mistakes and now seek to avoid responsibility.  Yes, the Government can be a psychopath too.
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Freeski on November 18, 2011, 08:41:19 pm
I'm wondering what you would consider to be a 'private company'?  Could it be something that is defined by regulated by government law?  And if we try to find a private company doesn't come under this description, would organised crime fit into that?

There is something to be said for government regulation, which is MEANT to protect the individual from the actions of psychopaths (and we do include companies in this definition).  Government regulation (in the form of laws) is meant to protect the individual rather than harm them.  Recently, in the health field, they have made some bad mistakes and now seek to avoid responsibility.  Yes, the Government can be a psychopath too.

"Government", no matter how small, will always get hijacked, and then it will grow for eternity. That's been the way forever!
Title: Re: Mandatory Flu Shot - Or You Are Fired
Post by: Poisonous-Truth on June 11, 2013, 05:36:55 pm
They can't force you, there's always an exemption, but you are normally left to research it