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Title: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 30, 2015, 10:58:06 am
Thread for "pro" immigration moratorium ... efforts

From 1992!:
Why America Needs A Moratorium On Immigration
By Dan Stein 
 Volume 3, Number 1 (Fall 1992)
Issue theme: "Revealing the costs of immigration"

Recent public opinion polls show that Americans are becoming more concerned about immigration. According to a recent Roper poll, fifty-five percent of the respondents support a temporary moratorium on all legal immigration, except for spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens.

A moratorium - a temporary freeze in immigration - may sound like a radical proposal. Given their support for the idea, most Americans apparently accept the concept. Many ideas that seemed radical just a few years ago are suddenly finding new acceptance at a time when many Americans believe the political process is spinning out of control. From the concept of a balanced budget amendment, to term limitations for members of Congress, to possibly electing a third party candidate for president, Americans are voicing their dissatisfaction with a political process that has lost touch with the people.

New census data from 1990 reveal that immigration is a major contributor to U.S. population growth, reshaping the culture and character of our nation, and is a partial factor in the growing gap between rich and poor. As a result of an unprece-dented wave of immigration over the last 30 years, the United States now has the greatest foreign-born population in our history. And there is no end in sight. Changes made in the immigration laws in 1990 mean that today's foreign-born population of 20 million will grow to at least 30 million by the year 2000.

The stress of this unending influx is beginning to take its toll. The riots in Los Angeles, and growth projections for California as a whole, present a compelling case that, right now, America is unpre-pared for more people. Our schools, housing, employment, living standards and deteriorating infrastructure demand a short pause in immigration.
Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 30, 2015, 11:09:26 am
Ann Coulter last year:
Coulter: 'What We Need Now Is an Immigration Moratorium, Both Legal and Illegal'
by Breitbart TV 1 Jul 2014

On Monday’s “Hannity,” conservative commentator Ann Coulter discussed her concerns with President Barack Obama’s latest gesture on how he would handle the border crisis.

According to the author of “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican,” the potential reaction from Congress to Obama’s Monday remarks could be “unlimited discretion.”

She also warned the aim of some was just to get those immigrants here, then there would be a reluctance to deport them and they would be here to stay. This sort of immigration policy would ultimately depress wages and hurts the overall American economy.

Partial transcript as follows:

HANNITY: The president spoke on immigration today and the president said, oh, Congress doesn’t do what I want I want, they’re not going to pass amnesty. Now once again he’s going to try to executive power his way. I wanted to get your reaction to it.

COULTER: I’m glad you asked me this, because I’m out of the country and I’m terrified that Congress will fall for this. There is no way Obama is using his executive authority in the middle of this surge on the border to suddenly just throw at them all amnesty. What I’m worried about is that he’ll go to Congress and ask for unlimited discretion to deal with the problem. And so we want to look that over and be very careful he doesn’t get that. We do need to change the law so if you’re from someplace other than Mexico you don’t get invited in and given clean diapers, a place to stay, and, you know, flown around the country to complete the criminal conspiracy of human smuggling as an illegal alien. This problem is out of control. We need a fence on the border like Israel has.

HANNITY: Listen, look at the impact it’s having on our health care system, our criminal justice system, our educational system. Now especially on the health care issue, and now Eric holder is going to provide all of these people that they haven’t stopped from coming into the country, he’s giving them, what, government-paid lawyers? So now we’re going to pay legal fees. The amount of money, do you think this is planned on their part? Do you think this is like the Alinsky tactic, make it happen, create chaos, and then, oh, blame the other guy?

COULTER: Oh, absolutely. And not even necessary to blame the other guy, but just get them here, like 11 million illegal immigrants. And we can have Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)  and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) going around saying what are you going to do? Deport them all? Deport them all? Just get them in. And in a matter of years they’ll be voting Democrat and collecting welfare.

Unfortunately the country can’t afford it. We have our own poor people we need to take care of. And we’re running out of money for that. As I pointed out many times, the people this hurts the most are African-Americans. They’re jobs are being taken. They’re the one who need the low-wage jobs that are being undercut and then subsidized by taxpayers through the welfare that illegal immigrants and also just low-wage immigrants are taking. The second group it probably hurts the most are legal Hispanic immigrants. This hurts low-wage Americans. Republicans are the party that cares about all Americans not just very wealthy or the very, very poor.

HANNITY: May shock you, but “The Washington Examiner” had a piece last week that said 90 percent get court dates, then they get released, and then shockingly they don’t show up for court dates. The question is –

COULTER: No, I know.

HANNITY: Go ahead.

COULTER: When I worked for Senate Judiciary Committee this was my issue. It wasn’t at all for illegal immigrants. It was for immigrants who come to this country and commit felonies. They’re convicted. Their convictions are upheld. If they committed an aggravated felony the law said they were supposed to serve time and then being deported. At that time they were being deported at a rate of four percent a year because they could go into endless hearings. Once they finished all the immigration hearings they could have their habeas corpus hearings. That’s, you know, a decade in the United States at which point they’ve married and then they throw themselves on the mercy of the court, saying, oh, but I have an American spouse, I have an American child. Well, that is because you’ve been living here.

This is why I think you’re absolutely right that Obama just wants to get them in, just get them in. It’s already like 90,000 they’re expecting this year, 140,000 illegal immigrants just pouring across the border next year? It’s completely out of control. To help all Americans what we need now is an immigration moratorium, both legal and illegal.

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Ann Coulter this year:
Lloyd Grove
Ann Coulter: It’s time for a 10-year moratorium on immigration

“This has been our law for 50 years now, and I blame the Republicans for idiotically continuing it,” she continues. “The Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986 [creating an easier path to citizenship for foreigners who illegally entered and settled in the United States] was a mistake. As for these idiot Tea Partiers or whichever conservatives are idol-worshipping Ronald Reagan, he was great for his time, but it was a different world. I don’t think he’s going down as the greatest president when he signed an amnesty law.”…

Coulter’s politically quixotic prescription: a 10-year moratorium on all legal immigration; a complete dismantling of the immigration bureaucracy, not only government agencies and sympathetic elected officials but also outside advocacy groups; the erection of an impassable fence along the entire U.S.-Mexican border (in her book, she praises the Communist East Germans for effectively, sometimes lethally, preventing their citizens from breaching the Berlin Wall); and a return to pre-1965 policies that give preference to highly-educated, usually white Europeans.

“I wouldn’t care if they were white or not; I’m talking about peasants who come from backward cultures,” she says, although she expresses alarm at predictions that by 2050 Caucasians in this country will be a minority. “There are white people from backward cultures. They just don’t happen to come from a country contiguous to the United States. It’s backward cultures that are providing cheap labor and Democratic votes.” (Coulter, however, is unfailingly friendly to our waiter, who identifies himself as “Luis,” an immigrant from Ecuador who came here 10 years ago and is working his way toward U.S. Citizenship.)

Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 30, 2015, 11:23:12 am
Why No-one In Washington Has Proposed An Immigration Moratorium (Yet)
Washington Watcher
 June 30, 2010, 9:00 am

In the 1990s, around the time of the amazingly sensible Jordan Commission on immigration reform, a number of immigration moratorium measures were introduced, such as Congressman Bob Stump`s (R-AZ) Immigration Moratorium Act of 1994 with 80 co-sponsors. At that time, there was no organized immigration reduction caucus in Congress. Unemployment was at 6.6%.

In 2003, Tom Tancredo authored the Mass Immigration Reduction Act. It had eleven co-sponsors.  Political and economic circumstances ran against a moratorium at the time. Unemployment was at 5.6%. Tancredo`s immigration Reform Caucus had only 68 members.

George Bush and Tom Delay ruled the Republican Party with an iron fist, and few were willing to cross them on immigration.

Things have changed since then. Immigration became the breaking point between conservative Republicans and the failing Bush Administration. Today, Republicans are leaderless but united against a Treason Lobby president.

The Immigration Reform Caucus now boasts 96 members. Most importantly, unemployment has risen to an official level of 9.7%—but everyone knows it`s really much higher

An immigration moratorium bill should be more popular than ever.

But not one Congressman will introduce it.

The hole left by the departure from Congress of Tancredo and Virgil Goode (R-VA)—both of whom are vocally advocating an immigration moratorium—has clearly not been filled.

Americans simply like supporting legal immigration in the abstract because they oppose illegal immigration so much.

If we are going to make progress on fighting legal immigration, we need to completely change the debate on illegal immigration.
•The first step: stop using expedient arguments against illegal immigration.
•The second step: start educating Americans about the sheer number and quality of legal immigrants.

In the rare instances when, Free Republic, or Human Events runs a piece calling for an immigration moratorium by Pat Buchanan or Virgil Goode, the comment section response is overwhelmingly positive.

The Apostle John famously said, “The truth shall set you free.” Less known is that the phrase is prefaced: “And you shall know the truth.”

Once Americans know the truth about the astronomical numbers of legal immigrants we let in, I am confident that they will demand that their elected officials put the interests of the American workers—and the American nation—first.

“Washington Watcher” [email him] is an anonymous source Inside The Beltway.
Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 30, 2015, 11:36:38 am


  There are very few people that really understand the problem---Tancredo, Coulter, Farage and Trump are some exceptions.

  These are planned invasions/crisises by the NWO and its puppets---Obama, Merkel, et al.
Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 30, 2015, 11:49:54 am
For all my lifetime we have had controlled opposition called the GOP Republican party . When the 1965 Immigration reform act came thru there was not one call by the replicants to repeal or modify it !!!

When Reagan went an amnestied 10 million South/Latin Americans ( really 20 million with chain immigration)  and I say South Americans because these people in large numbers had NO papers or fake papers, just like illegals today.
No congressman or senator had any traction to stop it .

Moratorium ideas have never had any traction because there is no political representation.

Even AJ doesn't go all the way and call for a moratorium even though that is really the only true solution .
Winning the Battle for Immigration Reduction: Achieving an Immigration Moratorium
All-Inclusive Ceiling vs. Category Approach

The Immigration reduction movement's legislative losses over the past two decades can be traced in large part to pushing for reduction using the "category approach." Merely arguing against a specific increase in any particular category, e.g., HI-B Visas, is almost always a strategic, tactical, political, and public relations mistake. In using such a "category approach," we implicitly send an (incorrect) message that mass immigration of over one million legal immigrants per year is okay.

This approach plays into the hands of the opposition — the proponents of mass immigration. Trying to reduce individual categories (e.g. asylees, extended family members, skilled workers) results in the ultimate numbers being the outcome of horse trading, pressure tactics and intense lobbying by wealthy special interests — areas in which our opposition is skilled, powerful, and well financed.

The key to breaking this cycle of losses and preventing a repetition of defeats is to push exclusively for an all-inclusive limit on total immigration by fixing the ceiling first in a moratorium bill (such as the Mass Immigration Reduction Act introduced in the 106th Congress by Rep. Bob Stump (R-AZ)); that is, by fixing an all-inclusive ceiling covering all categories of immigration (including refugees and asylees) collectively before individual category quotas are set.

One major strength of pushing for a moratorium is that it is such an all-inclusive approach. An all-inclusive moratorium on all immigration in excess of 100,000 per year (followed by a replacement-level of 200,000) would eventually allow the U.S.A. to achieve population stabilization. If an all-inclusive cap were enacted, the special interests would have to bargain or horse trade over numbers for the various categories under that fixed limit. The principle of an all-inclusive fixed ceiling is the critical element—simplicity and inclusivity are its strong suits. Pushing exclusively for such an all-inclusive moratorium is essential to avoid the weakness of the category approach. Conversely, pushing for reductions using the category approach may actually diminish the pressure for immigration.

Pushing exclusively for a Moratorium is also essential because three of the most nationally prominent supporters of immigration reduction, former Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, Representative Tom Tancredo, and Representative Bob Stump, have all supported an Immigration Moratorium as the way to reduce legal immigration (three times illegal immigration). We must unify to push the solution supported by our national leaders — a Moratorium.

Necessary and Realistic

One might claim that this moratorium approach is unrealistic because it is very hard to get an agreement on an overall fixed ceiling at any number. It is true that getting such an agreement is difficult, but there are many advantages which make pushing for it essential.

First, it maintains pressure for lower numbers on a very wide variety of bills introduced by members of Congress which would make reductions in various categories. As the unified alliance in favor of a moratorium becomes stronger and stronger, deeper and deeper cuts in the categories will become more and more likely because, members of Congress would be able to say, "If we don't cut these categories, these moratorium people will succeed." Thus, pushing only the moratorium approach down to the bitter end of any particular Congressional session actually maintains maximum pressure to reduce all categories and enhances our chances of getting a moratorium!

The moratorium is "temporary," namely, for five years, thus providing a "time-out" to deal with the problems which immigration causes or makes more difficult to solve.

The concept "moratorium" is easily understood by and serves as a rallying point for the public.

The "temporary" (i.e. five years) nature of the moratorium allows those politicians who may not otherwise have the courage to support permanent limitations, to advocate a reduction
. As well, it would give the USA a much-needed respite from mass immigration.

Pushing for a moratorium puts the focus on the total number of immigrants, and the fact that creating a fixed all-inclusive ceiling is an essential first step. The focus on total numbers, rather than categories, is essential for demonstrating that population growth harms the environment, because it is the increase in total numbers that causes the harm.

Widespread across-the-board support for significant immigration reduction is reflected in numerous polls, such as the Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll indicating that a majority of Americans favor a five-year moratorium on all immigration.

Pushing for a moratorium as a first step, or "time-out," with a specific numeric goal to defend, will provide cover and help politicians resist the inevitable onslaught by special interest groups intent on protecting their vested interests.

For activists, a moratorium provides an essential rallying point as well as a means of holding politician's "feet to the fire." Achieving a moratorium overall immigration in excess of 100,000 per year is an essential first step to attaining U.S. population stabilization.

A moratorium provides a new approach we can all unify behind to set the terms of the debate and attract media attention. This is the only way to move away from the same old equation and no longer play by the opposition's rules, which has cost us so dearly in legislative sessions. The moratorium approach provides a number of ideas which are highly controversial, and will give politician and the media a new focus for this year. Exclusively advocating an all- inclusive moratorium puts the pressure and the burden of proof on the other side to justify increased and current levels of immigration. To win, we must use the non-category approach: push for an all-inclusive 5-year moratorium on all immigration in excess of 100,000 per year.

Some may see a moratorium as unrealistic, but they forget that watershed events and/or plain old good organizing can change the public's mood very quickly. The immigration reduction movement sorely needs to unite behind and rally around this moratorium. We have no time to waste.

Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 30, 2015, 12:22:02 pm
For all my lifetime we have had controlled opposition called the GOP Republican party . When the 1965 Immigration reform act came thru there was not one call by the replicants to repeal or modify it !!!

When Reagan went an amnestied 10 million South/Latin Americans ( really 20 million with chain immigration)  and I say South Americans because these people in large numbers had NO papers or fake papers, just like illegals today.
No congressman or senator had any traction to stop it .

Moratorium ideas have never had any traction because there is no political representation.

Even AJ doesn't go all the way and call for a moratorium even though that is really the only true solution .

  All true.

  AJ is at ground zero.  The Latinos have taken over parts of Texas.  The only thing that keeps the illegals partially in check is THE TEXANS HAVE THEIR GUNS.
Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 30, 2015, 02:00:43 pm

Date: Tuesday - October 27, 2015
Host: George Noory
Guests: Frosty Wooldridge  ,

In the first half, author Frosty Wooldridge   argued that America will not be sustainable if the country proceeds on its present course, adding 138 million people over the next 35 years, mainly through immigration. This equates to doubling the size of our 35 most populated cities, with New York City jumping from 8.3 million 16.6 million, Chicago from 5 million to 10 million, and Los Angeles from 11 million to 22 million.

"Exponential growth cannot be sustained-- it ultimately ends in a complete collapse of civilization," he said, citing previous fallen societies such as the Maya. If the United States tries to house, feed, and educate millions of refugees and immigrants, it will end up becoming a third world country itself, he cautioned.

Most of the immigrants to the US are not prepared to function in a first world country, lack English skills, and collect food stamps or work minimum wage jobs, he remarked, "and so we're driving down the quality of life and standard of living in America." Wooldridge proposes the shutdown of all immigration, creating severe fines for anyone hiring illegal aliens, stopping welfare payments to non-citizens, and ending the "anchor baby" birthright citizenship practice, in which newborns automatically become citizens. To get further involved, he suggested the following organizations and sites: Numbers USA ,CAPS  , and


right ,,, in this century the world will reach a population climax since whatever the "carrying capacity" of the earth is , it is limited to what people/farmers "produce" and millions of people starve every year already, ...  with wars, millions starve due to the disruption in farming and distribution of food.

I was a biology major and just look at the population graphs of lemming ... there is a peak and then a rapid collapse.

What cultural/ethnic "diversity" is there in China? India? Honduras? Guatemala? CAR Congo?  Saudi Arabia?  Pakistan?
(clue: There ISN'T ANY)

The western countries are now all at SUB replacement birth rates (ie 1.8 TFT) while at the ROW have birth rates of 3-5 TFT ( ie they have five kids or more) . So we need to corral them out of the western countries or there will be NO "western" countries.

see: Sub-Replacement Fertility - The Second Demographic Transition   (

So as a numbers game are tptb going to let the western world fail along with the "ROW" rest of world?
So they can lord over the destroyed world? Look at Carlos Slim or King Saud as global examples .

The Christian ethic of the 1900's went out into the world to right the wrongs of the colonial era and succeeded and failed at the same time.


What’s so scary about this chart? Most people don’t know that population pointing straight up– this long– means trouble. Our population line (2012) could still climb higher, but not for very long . No room on the chart; only a few short years. Then we have to return… somehow… most likely dropping as steeply as we went up. Charts… charts… they are only paper. But, they represent where we came from and where we’re likely going next.
Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 08, 2015, 10:51:09 pm
Oh just to point out that now they're talking about it since Trump went after the MusselMen

Immigration is the globalist engine for "transforming" the USA ... So it must not stop ...

Politico: Republicans Concede Donald Trump ‘Has a Point’ on Muslim Migration Moratorium

by Breitbart News8 Dec 20152,514

From Eliza Collings writing at Politico:

    While many in the GOP are fiercely condemning Donald Trump for his proposal to temporarily ban all Muslim from entering the U.S., there’s a whole lot of other Republicans who are saying, hey, he has a point.

    From established party figures such as Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)     97%     and Rick Santorum to the more hardcore right-wing personalities such as Ann Coulter, numerous Republicans are either stopping short of condemning Trump’s audacious proposal or are outright applauding the billionaire businessman as finally offering a commonsense solution to terrorism threats.

    They are offering a glimpse into why Trump has continued to zoom ahead in the polls, despite a series of jaw-dropping comments that the many in the media, and now the White House, have presented as not only offensive but disqualifying for the leader of the free world.

Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 12, 2015, 03:35:00 pm

more at the link....

Larry Kudlow: I’ve Changed. This Is War. Seal the Borders. Stop the Visas.

I know this is not my usual position. But this is a war. Therefore I have come to believe there should be no immigration or visa waivers until the U.S. adopts a completely new system to stop radical Islamic terrorists from entering the country. A wartime lockdown. And a big change in my thinking.

ISIS and related Islamic terrorists are already here. More are coming. We must stop them.

Until FBI director James Comey gives us the green light, I say seal the borders.

Here’s what we must do: Completely reform the vetting process for immigrants and foreign visitors. Change the screening process. Come up with a new visa-application review process. Stop this nonsense of marriage-visa fraud. And in the meantime, seal the borders. I agree with Jessica Vaughn, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, who argued many of these points in excellent detail on the National Review website on Friday.

Again, why am I taking this hardline position? In the past, I have been an immigration reformer, not a restrictionist. But we are at war. That changes everything.

Let me emphasize that my support for wartime immigration restrictions is not based on religion. I think Donald Trump made a big mistake here. Instead, I agree with this Rupert Murdoch tweet: “Complete refugee pause to fix vetting makes sense.”

Fortunately, the Republican House voted to tighten restrictions on travel to the U.S. by citizens of 38 nations who presently enter our country without a visa. This covers 20 million visitors a year who are allowed to stay 90 days. And of course this system is abused, big time.

But I say seal the borders. People hoping to relocate to the U.S. from Syria, Iraq, and anywhere in the Middle East, and people coming here from France, England, Sweden, and wherever will be upset, at least for a while. There may be some unfairness to this. But I don’t care. Wars breed unfairness, just as they breed collateral damage.

We may set back tourism. We may anger Saudi princes whose kids are in American schools. But so be it. We need a wartime footing if we are going to protect the American homeland.

Of course, President Obama doesn’t get it. He never will. Already we should have led NATO into a declaration of war against ISIS. Already we should have pushed a resolution of war against ISIS through the UN Security Council. Already we should have convened meetings with our Mideast allies to formally declare war against ISIS. Already the U.S. Congress should have issued a formal declaration of war against ISIS.

The president had his last chance last Sunday night. And he didn’t do it. He is not a wartime commander in chief. In fact, he is not a commander in chief.
Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 22, 2016, 02:43:29 pm
Trump needs to call for Immigration Moratorium
Title: Re: Immigration Moratorium Efforts
Post by: Al Bundy on December 05, 2017, 01:32:25 pm
Trump needs to call for Immigration Moratorium

The US Supreme Court has ruled President Donald Trump's travel ban on six mainly Muslim countries can go into full effect, pending legal challenges.
The decision is a boost for Mr Trump's policy against travellers from Chad, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria and Yemen.
The ruling covers the third version of the directive that the president has issued since taking office.
Seven of the nine justices lifted injunctions on Monday imposed by lower courts against the policy.
Only liberal Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor would have allowed the president's order to remain blocked....