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Title: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: John_Back_From_The_Club_O on December 17, 2014, 09:46:15 pm
Me always wondered if the Cuba US torture center had anything to do with the lifting of the embargo.   Always, because I had a sneaky feeling that this was going to happen.

Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions

United States President Barack Obama said Wednesday that the US is initiating plans to rebuild its relationship with Cuba following decades of disputes between the two nations.

Speaking from the White House in Washington, DC, Pres. Obama said Wednesday that the US is seeking to establish diplomatic relations with Cuba and soon plans to open an embassy in Havana, authorize sales and exports between nations and make changes to current travel laws that for decades have restricted traffic between the two countries.

“Today, the United States of America is changing its relationship with the people of Cuba,” Obama said as he offered to “extend a hand of friendship” while unveiling what he called “the most significant changes in our policy in more than 50 years.”

“We will end an outdated approach that for decades has failed to advance our interest,” Obama said.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 18, 2014, 06:25:33 am

  Embassy buildings and lifting of sanctions is just cover.  Obama and his minions are opening the floodgates to more illegal immigration.

  This is another deja vu/ gotcha US story.
  You can't fool us Obama.  You are destroying the US with this immigration crap.
  One if by land, 2 if by sea----Paul Revere.  THIS TIME IT'S 1 AND 2.


Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: iamc2 on December 18, 2014, 06:50:15 am
Of course O'Traitor would make friends with the Nazi-Commies: Cause he is a Nazi-Commie!

 and, Yes, the Nazis' and Commies are one and The SAME!
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: John_Back_From_The_Club_O on December 18, 2014, 09:39:25 am
Micheal Rivero brought up a valid point for the reason why the USA would drop the 1960 embargo.

He brought up the fact that the USA does NOT want to make the mistake it made in 1960.  That is give Russia a forward position like NATO has in the Ukraine to place it's ballistic missiles.

It's interesting that the Vatican is getting credit in this deal via the prisoner swap and Canada is claiming credit for hosting the talks.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 18, 2014, 11:03:10 am
1 JUNE 1970

Declassified in accordance with Executive Order 12812 22 Jul 92 ...
*Research conducted for the National Alliance of Families for the Return of America's Missing Servicemen by Board Member and former Vietnam POW Mike Benge.
Cuban War Crimes Against American POWs During the Vietnam War*
National Alliance of Families for the Return ^  | 1999 | Mike Benge

Posted on ‎2‎/‎14‎/‎2004‎ ‎3‎:‎08‎:‎31‎ ‎PM by Mike Darancette

Cuban officials, under diplomatic cover in Hanoi during the Vietnam War, brutally tortured and killed American POWs whom they beat senseless in a research program "sanctioned by the North Vietnamese."(1) This was dubbed the "Cuba Program" by the Department of Defense (DOD) and the CIA, and it involved 19 American POWs (some reposts state 20). Recent declassified secret CIA and DOD intelligence documents, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal the extent of Cuba's involvement with American POWs captured in Vietnam. A Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) report states that "The objective of the interrogators was to obtain the total submission of the prisoners..."(2)

According to former POW Air Force Colonel Donald "Digger" Odell, "two POWs left behind in the camp were 'broken' but alive when he and other prisoners were released [1973 Operation Homecoming]. ... They were too severely tortured by Cuban interrogators" to be released. The Vietnamese didn't want the world to see what they had done to them."(3)

POWs released during "Operation Homecoming" in 1973 "were told not to talk about third-country interrogations
. .... This thing is very sensitive with all kinds of diplomatic ramifications."(4) Hence, the torture and murder of American POWs by the Cubans was swept under the rug by the U.S. Government.

The "Cuban Program"

The "Cuban Program" was initiated around August 1967 at the Cu Loc POW camp known as "The Zoo", a former French movie studio on the southwestern edge of Hanoi. The American POWs gave their Cuban torturers the names "Fidel," "Chico," "Pancho" and "Garcia." The Vietnamese camp commander was given the name "The Lump" because of a fatty tumor growth in the middle of his forehead.

Intelligence and debriefing reports reveal that testing "torture methods were of primary interest" of the "Cuban Program." The Cuban leader of the "Cuban Program" ["Fidel"] was described in debriefing reports as "a professional interrogator," and a second team member was described as looking like a Czech ["Chico"]. "The Cubans has (sic) the authority to order NVNS [North Vietnamese] to torture American PWs [POWs]." The Vietnamese "catered" to the Cubans.(5)

Other Cuban Involvement With POWs

Documents reveal that Cubans not only tortured and killed a number of American POWs in Vietnam, but may have also taken several POWs to Cuba in the mid-1960s. The POWs, mostly pilots, were reportedly imprisoned in Las Maristas, a secret Cuban prison run by Castro's G-2 intelligence service. The source of this information reportedly was debriefed by the FBI; however, this debriefing report was not in DPMO's report to Congress, and no evidence has surfaced that there was any other follow up.(14)

According to a February 1971 State Department cable, a former aide to Fidel Castro offered " ransom POWs in NVN [North Viet Nam] through the Castro Government." The cable concluded, "Propose doing nothing further unless advised."(15) Evidently no advice was forthcoming, and there is no evidence of any other agency investigating this matter. One intelligence source reportedly interviewed "Fidel", "Chico" and "Pancho" after they returned from Hanoi to Cuba and said they claimed that their real job was to act as gate-keepers to select American POWs who could aid international communism.(16)

Cubans on the Ho Chi Minh Trail

The Cubans were heavily involved in the Vietnam war. Cuba had a very large contingent of combat engineers, the Giron Brigade, that was responsible for maintaining a large section of the "Ho Chi Minh Trail;" the supply line running from North Vietnam through Laos and Cambodia to South Vietnam
. The contingent was so large that Cuba had to establish a consulate in the jungle.(22)

A large number of American personnel serving in both Vietnam and Laos were either captured or killed along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and in all likelihood, many by the Cubans. One National Security Agency SigNet report states that 18 American POWs "are being detained at the Phom Thong Camp..." in Laos, and "...are being closely guarded by Soviet and Cuban personnel with Vietnamese soldiers outside the camp."(23)

One POW camp holding a large number of Americans was located about 100 km from the Chinese border between Monkai and Laokai, (an area where Cuban engineers were constructing military installations after 1975). According to an intelligence source, "one day the camp just disappeared, guards and all".(25) [also see End Notes]

The disappearance of American POWs near the Cuban facilities at Monkai and Laokai wasn't an isolated incident. American POWs also disappeared in the vicinity of two other Cuban installations. One American POW camp, located at "Work Site 5" (Cong Truong 5) just north of the DMZ, was adjacent to a Cuban field hospital that Fidel Castro visited in 1972.

None of the POWs held in that camp were ever released, including black American aviator Lt. Clemmie McKinney. McKinney was shot down in April 1972, approximately the same time as Castro's visit. McKinney's remains were returned on August 14, 1985. The Vietnamese claim that McKinney died in November 1972; however, "A CILHI (U.S. Army Central Identification Laboratory, Hawaii) forensic anthropologist states his opinion as to time of death as not earlier than 1975 and probably several years later."(26) Had McKinney been a guest of the real "Fidel" to be exploited by Castro's G-2 at Las Maristas and later returned to Vietnam?

Cuba's End Game in Vietnam

According to a DIA "asset", after the signing of the cease-fire on January 21, 1973, 4,000 Cuban army engineers arrived in Hanoi. They helped rebuild the Phuc Yen/Da Phuc Airfield North of Hanoi where, according to intelligence reports, American POWs were used as technicians after the war. Later, the Cubans disappeared into the mountains of the north and constructed and equipped secret bases about 100 km from the Chinese border between Monkai and Laokai. Here, the Soviets equipped the bases with mobile launch ramps, medium-range strategic missiles, possibly with tactical nuclear warheads, capable of hitting population centers in the southern part of China.(17) This is the same area where the above mentioned POW camp containing American prisoners "disappeared, guards and all."(25)

Units of this same Cuban engineering contingent were building the airfield in Grenada when Americans overran the island. U.S. military intelligence captured reams of documents and photographs relating to this unit's operations in Vietnam. However, no evidence has surfaced that these documents were ever analyzed for information on POWs by DPMO or any intelligence agency.

In the spirit of communist solidarity, Hanoi reciprocated for Cuba's assistance during the Vietnam war by sending U.S. arms and ammunition, captured in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, to South America to fuel the lution" directed by the Cubans there.

As agents of the Soviets, and continuing their belief in the communist internationale, the Cuban government expanded its role in the communist internationale.

The Cubans sent troops to Angola. In 1975, Vivo again surfaces in Angola posing as a journalist. Vivo "interviewed" western mercenaries who were put on trail in a "kangaroo court" in yet another slanted propaganda coup against the U.S. One of the mercenaries was an American who's body has yet to be recovered.(13)

Evidently, Cuba's partnership with Vietnam in subversive activities against the U.S. has continued. In 1996, Jane's Defense Weekly reported that "Vietnam has been training Cuban Special Forces troops to undertake limited attacks in the USA... .... Havana's strategy in pursuing such training is to attack the staging and supply areas for U.S. forces preparing to invade Cuba. .... The training program is focused on seaborne and underwater operations, roughly comparable to those assigned to U.S. Navy Seals. .... The political objective would be to bring the reality of warfare to the American public and so exert domestic pressure on Washington."(37)

Vietnam and Cuba are closely linked by their belief in exporting international communism. Hanoi praised Cuba for its shootdown of two American planes and denounced the Helms-Burton Bill as "Insolent!" Hanoi recently reaffirmed the unswerving solidarity of the communist party, the government and people of Vietnam with the Cuban revolution.(38)


The behavior of "Fidel", "Chico" and "Pancho" in the torture and murder of Americans is beyond the pale and is clearly in violation of the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of Prisoners of War, which North Vietnam signed. Allowing these Cubans to go unpunished sets an ugly precedent, and adds to America's growing "paper tiger" image. Although the Cubans' crimes are smaller in number, they are no less than some of the war criminals that are being tried in Bosnia.

If the communist regime in Hanoi was fully cooperating in resolving the POW/MIA issue as President Clinton, Senator John McCain, and Ambassador Pete Peterson profess, the Vietnamese communists would have turned over to the U.S. the names of the Cubans who tortured and killed American POWs in the "Cuban Program
." Full cooperation by the communist government in Hanoi includes the full disclosure of the true identities and roles of these Cuban "diplomats", who were "advisors" to the Hanoi prison system, and were directly responsible for the murder, torture, and severe disablement of American POWs.

Although the "Cuban Program" was reviewed by the Department of Defense's Prisoner of War and Missing in Action Office (DPMO), its analysis was incomplete. DPMO's chief analyst Robert Destatte's claims that the "Vietnamese's story is plausible and fully consistent with what DPMO knows about the conduct of the Cubans in question" are ludicrous and grossly incompetent. DPMO's analysis of the "Cuban Program" is glaringly incomplete, indicating either incompetence, negligence, or an attempt at political correctness in keeping with our present policy toward Cuba.

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Cuban torturers hiding in Florida?
Officials searching for men who brutalized Americans in Vietnam

Published: 02/16/2003 at 1:00 AM

A special criminal investigations unit in the U.S. Department of Justice is pursuing reports that two notorious Cuban nationals suspected of participating in a brutal torture program conducted against American POWs in Vietnam are hiding somewhere in southern Florida, WorldNetDaily has learned.

Commonly referred to as the “Cuban Program” by the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency, or DIA, which is also said to be involved in the manhunt, the Vietnam torture program was carried out from late summer 1967 to the last quarter of 1968 at the Cu Loc prison complex located 2 miles southwest of Hoa Lo
. A village on the outskirts of Hanoi, Hoa Lo, was the site of the infamous POW prison known as the Hanoi Hilton. Cu Loc, commonly called the “Zoo” by American POWs, was opened by the North Vietnamese in August 1965. Earlier, the converted complex had served as a French film studio and arts colony.

Declassified Pentagon reports reveal that in July or August of 1967 a group of about five Cubans appeared at the Cu Loc where they soon began brutalizing American POWs held there. Officials in the Pentagon’s Office of Missing Personnel report that the Cubans were responsible for the murder-by-torture of at least one American serviceman. Over a period of weeks, captured Navy pilot Capt. Earl Cobeil was mercilessly beaten and tortured to death. Former American POWs who were held at the Cu Loc complex report that the Cubans also may have been responsible for the deaths of other POWs who remain unaccounted for.

Florida’s criminal element

Cases of foreign human-rights violators and war criminals, not to mention terrorists, living in the U.S. – especially in Florida – are not new or unusual. Over the past four decades, numerous Nazi war criminals have been found living in Florida. In recent years, cases involving fugitives from South and Latin America also have become commonplace.

Last year a man accused of torturing dozens of political prisoners in Cuba using electrical devices was arrested in Miami. Eriberto Mederos, a Cuban who became a U.S. citizen in 1993, was arrested by INS agents after a federal grand jury indicted him on a felony charge of illegally obtaining citizenship by lying on his application. Mederos wrote “no” to questions asking if he ever was a “member of the Communist Party” and if he had “ever persecuted anyone,” said Aloyma Sanchez of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Miami.

At the November 1999 congressional hearings on the Cuban Program, Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., said that he “didn’t become aware of this problem of war criminals entering the United States” until he was informed about a former member of Haiti’s brutal dictatorship who ended up living in his congressional district. Carl Dorelien, a former colonel in the Haitian army that seized power from Haiti’s President Aristide in 1991, killing 4,000 civilians in the process, came to Foley’s attention after he won $3.2 million in the Florida lottery. Dorelien claimed the U.S. military gave him a five-year visa after his army was forced from power. He told reporters in 1999 that he came to Florida along with about 15 other Haitian military officers.

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 18, 2014, 12:02:03 pm
Eric Holder Partners with Fidel Castro Again
Humberto Fontova | Feb 15, 2011

Last week the U.S. Dept. of Justice, at U.S. taxpayer expense, transported a Lieutenant Colonel of Fidel Castro’s KGB-trained secret police named Roberto Hernandez-Caballero to a U.S. courtroom.

The U.S. State Dept. classifies Cuba as a “State Sponsor of Terrorism,” and Fidel Castro classifies the U.S. as “the Great Enemy of Mankind!” A former regime-colleague of Hernandez-Caballero sits in a U.S. federal prison after conviction in “the most damaging spy scandal against the U.S. since the end of the Cold War.” Her name is Ana Montes and she was convicted in a different U.S. courtroom of the same crimes as Ethel and Julius Rosenberg–but on behalf of Fidel Castro.

Other regime-colleagues of Senor Hernandez-Caballero named Elsa Montero, Jose Abad and Roberto Santiesteban were nabbed in the nick of time by J Edgar Hoover’s FBI and booted from the U.S. for plotting to detonate 500 kilos of TNT in Macy’s, Gimbel’s, Bloomingdale’s and Manhattan’s Grand Central Terminal on Black Friday 1962. Macy’s get’s 50,000 shoppers that one day.

( Fernando_carlos_vecino_alegret

Carlos Fernando Vecino Alegret. Cuban revolutionary fighter and pedagogue. As an officer of the Armed Forces Revolutionary Cuba was one of the first twelve ofiales promoted to the rank of brigade commander. He held the responsibility of the Minister of Higher Education for 30 years.

Other regime-colleagues of Hernandez-Caballero, one named Fernando Vecino-Alegret, helped torture American POW’s to death in Hanoi. In 1967 Fidel Castro sent several of his regime's most promising sadists to North Vietnamese prison camps to instruct the Vietnamese reds in finer points of their profession. Testimony during Congressional hearings titled, "The Cuban Torture Program; Torture of American Prisoners by Cuban Agents" held on November 1999 provide some of the harrowing details.

The communists titled their torture program "the Cuba Project," and it took place during 67-68 primarily at the Cu Loc POW camp (also known as "The Zoo") on the southwestern edge of Hanoi. In brief, this "Cuba Project" was a Joseph Mengelese experiment run by Castroite Cubans to determine how much physical and psychological agony a human can endure before cracking.

For their experiment the Castroites chose twenty American POWs. One died: Lieutenant Colonel Earl Cobeil, an Air Force F-105 pilot. His death came slowly, in agonizing stages, under torture. Upon learning his Castroite Cuban affiliation, the American POWs nicknamed Cobeil's Cuban torturer, "Fidel."

"The difference between the Vietnamese and "Fidel' was that once the Vietnamese got what they wanted they let up, at least for a while,” testified fellow POW Captain Ray Vohden USN. “Not so with the Cubans. Earl Cobeil had resisted 'Fidel' to the maximum. I heard the thud of the belt falling on Cobeil's body again and again, as Fidel screamed "you son of a beech! I will show you! Kneel down!--KNEEL DOWN!” The Cubans unmercifully beat a mentally defenseless, sick American naval pilot to death."

"Earl Cobeil was a complete physical disaster when we saw him," testified another fellow POW, Col. Jack Bomar. "He had been tortured for days and days and days. His hands were almost severed from the manacles. He had bamboo in his shins. All kinds of welts up and down all over; his face was bloody. Then 'Fidel' began to beat him with a fan belt.”

According to the book Honor Bound the tortures of U.S. POWs by Castro’s agents (Hernandez-Caballero’s colleagues) were “the worst sieges of torture any American withstood in Hanoi.”

Until quite recently the chief Castroite torturer in North Vietnam, Fernando Vecino- Alegret, served as Cuba's "Minister of Education." So he’ll probably smilingly host many of those visiting delegations of smiling U.S. scholars and educators as a result of Obama’s recent promotion of “people-to-people” exchanges with Cuba.

Vecino-Alegret’s colleague Hernandez-Caballero, however, was not transported to a U.S. courtroom this week to defend himself against charges of being an official of a regime that murdered more political prisoners in its first three years in power than Hitler murdered in his first six, jailed political prisoners at a higher rate than Stalin, has sponsored terrorism for half a century, came closest to nuking the United States, and gratuitously tortured American POW’s.

Instead Mr Hernandez-Caballero is here to testify against Luis Posada Carriles, and thus try to help the U.S. Justice Dept. convict a one-time military colleague of the American’s tortured to death by his (Hernandez-Caballero’s) colleagues in North Vietnam. Fidel Castro considers Luis Posada Carriles his number one enemy in the world. Posada volunteered for the Bay of Pigs invasion, and later joined the U.S. army emerging as a 2nd Lieutenant. After retiring from the U.S. Army he worked for the CIA putting out Soviet-started fires throughout Latin America. Among other projects, Posada helped the Reagan team squash Communism in Nicaragua by helping arms and train the Nicaraguan Contras. A few years later in Guatemala a Castro appointed death-squad ambushed Posada, riddled him with bullets and left him crippled.


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Witness accused of torture in ex-CIA agent's trial

 By Will Weissert 
 Associated Press / March 28, 2011

Hernandez Del Llano told jurors he was trained by the KGB in Moscow and served as a major in Cuba's counter-intelligence agency, but quit in 1992 after becoming disillusioned by government corruption. He said he was approached about resuming his old duties in 2002, but he refused.

In retaliation, he said, Roberto Hernandez Caballero -- an investigator for Cuba's Interior Ministry -- ordered him arrested three years later and then tortured him in a Havana jail. He later fled to the U.S
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 18, 2014, 12:22:18 pm
I ask you... Has Jesse Ventura got Dementia?

for reference:

Chairman Gilman. Mr. Menendez

While it has been more than 30 years since the ``Cuba Program'' ended for the 19 American POW's who suffered the
daily beatings and interrogations of their Cuban torturers
, the ``Cuba Program'' remains for them a vivid memory, and for some, an everyday nightmare.
    Today, we are here to announce that the search for ``Fidel,'' ``Chico,'' and ``Pancho'' Garcia is not over. The
atrocities committed by these Cuban agents constitute clear violations of the Geneva Convention, which has no statute of
. It is our intent to reinvigorate the investigation, uncover the identities of these men and bring them to trial for their crimes.
Jesse Ventura, Castro’s man of courage

NEW YORK — “I can only judge Fidel by the hour I spent with him,” renowned conspiracist theorist Jesse Ventura told The Daily Caller in the empty lobby restaurant of his New York City hotel in mid-September.

“And I will tell you this about Fidel. He had the most unique — I will always remember his handshake. Always. And I’ve shaken how many hands? But I will always remember his.”  [Well was it a MASONIC HANDSHAKE? ]

Communist Dictator Castro shaking hands with his boss, Grandmaster and Prince of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie

Jesse Ventura Swoons Over Fidel Castro and Che Guevara
Humberto Fontova | Aug 01, 2014

Maybe it’s just a coincidence that somebody like Jesse Ventura is also a major fan of Fidel Castro and Che Guevara? (Or claims to be for the publicity value among the “hip”?)

Recalling his visit to Cuba and meeting with Fidel Castro in 2002 Ventura grew misty-eyed: “Fidel Castro looked into my eyes and told me I was a man of great courage…Maybe he (Castro) saw a little of him in me.”


Years later when, during an interview, The Daily Caller’s Jaime Weinstein suggested to Ventura that Castro runs a very inhumane dictatorship, a “shocked” (or expertly performing?) Ventura gasped: “They have the highest health care of any Latin American country! … What has he (Fidel Castro) done that’s inhumane?”

"What has Cuba ever done to us?!” the again “shocked” (or masterfully miming) “Harvard Visiting Fellow” gasped recently on his show On the Grid. “We've been practicing terrorism against them!”

“War against the United States is my true destiny,” Fidel Castro had confided in a letter to a friend in 1958. “When this war’s over I’ll start that much bigger war.”

“Of course I knew the missiles were nuclear- armed,” responded Fidel Castro to Robert McNamara during a meeting in 1992. “That’s precisely why I urged Khrushchev to launch them!”

But for the purposes of this discussion let’s overlook the above trivialities, as they’re obviously regarded by Harvard’s esteemed academics. Instead let’s focus on the fact that Jesse Ventura claims some sort of “fellowship” with American servicemen, especially Viet-Nam veterans. (Granted, this fellowship is–to put it mildly—not fully reciprocated.)

So again, for the benefit of the esteemed academics who granted Ventura’s “Visiting Fellowship” at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government, we’ll mention a few items to highlight their “Visiting Fellow’s” ignorance (or expert burlesque?) To wit:

In 1967 Fidel Castro sent several of his regime's most promising sadists to North Vietnamese prison camps to instruct the Vietnamese reds in finer points of their profession. Testimony during Congressional hearings titled, "The Cuban Torture Program; Torture of American Prisoners by Cuban Agents" held on November 1999 provide some of the harrowing details.

The communists titled their torture program "the Cuba Project," and it took place during 67-68 primarily at the Cu Loc POW camp (also known as "The Zoo") on the southwestern edge of Hanoi. In brief, this "Cuba Project" was a Joseph Mengelese experiment run by Castroite Cubans to determine how much physical and psychological agony a human can endure before cracking.
According to the book Honor Bound the tortures of U.S. POWs by Castro’s agents were “the worst sieges of torture any American withstood in Hanoi.”

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 18, 2014, 01:31:28 pm
The Globalist Baby eating PRO-Commie US Chamber of Commerce GOP/DNC

( The Child Eater of Bern -A nearly 500 year old sculpture depicts a man eating a sack of babies, and no one is sure why

True Colors (
Chamber of Commerce 'Welcomes' Obama Cuba Announcement

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said it “welcomes” President Barack Obama’s announcement that the United States and Cuba will start to normalize relations.

Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Tom Donohue said the “U.S. business community welcomes today’s announcement, and has long supported many of the economic provisions the president touched on in his remarks
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 18, 2014, 01:38:51 pm
Hillary Clinton Praises Obama's Cuba Deal

Hunter Walker
 Dec. 17, 2014, 8:15

"Despite good intentions, our decades-long policy of isolation has only strengthened the Castro regime's grip on power. As I have said, the best way to bring change to Cuba is to expose its people to the values, information, and material comforts of the outside world," Clinton said. "The goal of increased U.S. engagement in the days and years ahead should be to encourage real and lasting reforms for the Cuban people. And the other nations of the Americas should join us in this effort."


Oh Notice Fascia at the bottom - Tell me Hillary didn't know she was giving a talk in front of a giant Hammer and Sickle dedicated to the communist revolution .... 
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 18, 2014, 02:12:40 pm
Sleeper Commie Brazilian Jesuit Pope -
Marco Rubio calls out pope on Cuba
By Lauren French and Seung Min Kim
12/17/14 2:14 PM EST
Updated 12/17/14 4:23 PM EST

The pope played a pivotal role through personal appeals to President Barack Obama and Cuban President Raul Castro to help the two countries forge an agreement for the release of Gross, Obama announced on Wednesday.

(Also on POLITICO: Don't expect a Cuban oil bonanza)

Rubio is set to play a major role in Cuba policy as the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee on Western Affairs, and he noted Wednesday some of Congress’ leverage points, such as funding for embassies and nomination of a U.S. ambassador to Cuba.

“I’m committed to doing everything I can to unravel as many of these changes as possible,” Rubio said.

Obama said on Wednesday that Gross’ release, which came as part of a prisoner swap for convicted Cuban spies held in the U.S., came after a personal appeal from Francis to the Obama administration.
Pope Francis: 'Caring for the poor does not make you a communist'
Pope Francis obviously a commie
Pope Francis has accused communism of stealing its ideas from Christianity

Pope Francis: Marx ‘did not invent anything,’ stole his best ideas from Christianity
Agence France-Presse
29 Jun 2014 at 13:58 ET       
Pope Francis insists he is 'no communist' and just following Catholic teachings after defending rights of the poor
Pontiff says he has been labelled a Marxist for standing up for less well off

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 18, 2014, 02:34:41 pm
Rand Paul drinking the Commerce KoolAid ...  Wants to make a GOP showing in 2016

Presidential Hopeful Rand Paul Backs Obama on Cuba Deal
Out of step with his own party, the libertarian-leaning senator plays to his original base. But at what cost?

The only words he had on the subject were bland at best: “In the past, Senator Paul has stated that he believes in more trade not less, and that includes Cuba,” a Paul spokesman told The Daily Beast. “Peace through commerce is one of Senator Paul’s firm beliefs.”
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 18, 2014, 05:50:26 pm




Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 18, 2014, 07:18:39 pm
They were part of a group known as the Cuban Five. The two other members, Rene and Fernando Gonzalez, were released in 2012. The five were arrested in 1998 and accused of belonging to a spy cabal called the Wasp Network that had infiltrated anti-Castro exile groups in Florida.

The Cuban Five, also known as the Miami Five (Gerardo Hernández, Antonio Guerrero, Ramón Labañino, Fernando González, and René González),[1] are five Cuban intelligence officers arrested in September 1998 and later convicted in Miami of conspiracy to commit espionage, conspiracy to commit murder, acting as an agent of a foreign government, and other illegal activities in the United States. The Five were in the United States to observe and infiltrate the United States Southern Command and the Cuban-American groups Alpha 66, the F4 Commandos, the Cuban American National Foundation, and Brothers to the Rescue.[2][3] They were part of La Red Avispa (the Wasp Network).

In 2001 the Cuban government acknowledged—after denying the fact for nearly three years—that the five men were intelligence agents. It said they were spying on Miami's Cuban exile community, not the US government.[4] Cuba contends that the men were sent to South Florida in the wake of several terrorist bombings in Havana masterminded by anti-communist terrorist Luis Posada Carriles, a Central Intelligence Agency operative.[4][5]

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During the course of the investigation against her, it was determined that Montes passed a considerable amount of classified information to the Intelligence Directorate, including the identities of four US spies. In 2007, DIA counterintelligence official Scott W. Carmichael publicly alleged that it was Ana Montes who told Cuban intelligence officers about a clandestine US Army camp in El Salvador. Carmichael alleged that Montes knew about the existence of the Special Forces camp because she visited it only a few weeks before the camp was attacked in 1987 by Cuban-supported guerrillas of the Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front.

Carmichael, who had led DIA's investigation of Montes, named Montes as being directly responsible for the death of Green Beret SGT Gregory A. Fronius who was killed at El Paraíso, El Salvador, on March 31, 1987 during the FMLN attack. Carmichael characterized the damage Montes caused to the DIA and other US intelligence agencies as "exceptionally grave," and stated that she compromised a "special access program" that was kept even from him, the lead investigator on her case

In a May 6, 2002 interview with CBS News, former Undersecretary of State John Bolton stated that an official 1998 US government report with significant contributions by Montes concluded that Cuba did not represent a significant military threat to the United States or the region. Bolton alleged that it was not possible to exclude the possibility that the administration of President Bill Clinton may have overlooked Cuba as a potential threat because of Montes' influence and the way she shaped reporting at DIA.[6]

Carmichael further alleged that many in the US intelligence community believed that Montes' penetration of the DIA was not the exception, but the rule, and that the Cuban intelligence services had numerous spies and moles within US intelligence agencies.[5]

In 2004 a Federal indictment alleged that Montes had assistance from another Cuban agent, Marta Rita Velazquez, once a legal officer at the State Department’s Agency for International Development, who also was alleged to have recruited Montes into espionage. The Federal indictment was unsealed in April 2013. Velazquez has been outside the US since 2002, apparently in Sweden, which does not have an extradition treaty with the US for spy cases.[7]


Montes was arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation at her office on 20 September 2001. Prosecutors stated that Montes had been privy to classified information about the U.S. military's impending invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001, and that they did not want her revealing this information to potential enemies.[3]

In 2002, Montes pleaded guilty to the charge which could have carried the death penalty, but was sentenced to 25 years in prison in October of the same year after accepting a plea agreement with the U.S. government.[3] According to her lawyer, Plato Cacheris, Montes committed the espionage based upon moral reasons, as "She felt the Cubans were treated unfairly by the U.S. government

Ana Montes did much harm spying for Cuba. Chances are, you haven’t heard of her.
By Jim Popkin

Ana Montes has been locked up for a decade with some of the most frightening women in America. Once a highly decorated U.S. intelligence analyst with a two-bedroom co-op in Cleveland Park, Montes today lives in a two-bunk cell in the highest-security women’s prison in the nation. Her neighbors have included a former homemaker who strangled a pregnant woman to get her baby, a longtime nurse who killed four patients with massive injections of adrenaline, and Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme, the Charles Manson groupie who tried to assassinate President Ford.
Montes spied for 17 years, patiently, methodically. She passed along so many secrets about her colleagues — and the advanced eavesdropping platforms that American spooks had covertly installed in Cuba — that intelligence experts consider her among the most harmful spies in recent memory. But Montes, now 56, did not deceive just her nation and her colleagues. She also betrayed her brother Tito, an FBI special agent; her former boyfriend Roger Corneretto, an intelligence officer for the Pentagon specializing in Cuba; and her sister, Lucy, a 28-year veteran of the FBI who has won awards for helping to unmask Cuban spies.


WASHINGTON—A one-count indictment was unsealed today in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia charging Marta Rita Velazquez, 55, with conspiracy to commit espionage, announced John Carlin, Acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security; Ronald C. Machen, Jr., U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia; and Valerie Parlave, Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI’s Washington Field Office.

The charges against Velazquez stem from, among other things, her alleged role in introducing Ana Belen Montes, now 55, to the Cuban Intelligence Service (CuIS) in 1984; in facilitating Montes’s recruitment by the CuIS; and in helping Montes later gain employment at the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). Montes served as an intelligence analyst at DIA from September 1985 until she was arrested for espionage by FBI agents on September 21, 2001. On March 19, 2002, Montes pleaded guilty in the District of Columbia to conspiracy to commit espionage on behalf of Cuba. Montes is currently serving a 25-year prison sentence.

The indictment against Velazquez, who is also known as “Marta Rita Kviele” and as “Barbara,” was originally returned by a grand jury in the District of Columbia on February 5, 2004. It has remained under court seal until today. Velazquez has continuously remained outside the United States since 2002. She is currently living in Stockholm, Sweden. If convicted of the charges against her, Velazquez faces a potential sentence of up to life in prison.

According to the indictment, Velazquez was born in Puerto Rico in 1957. She graduated from Princeton University in 1979 with a bachelor’s degree in political science and Latin American studies. Velazquez later obtained a law degree from Georgetown University Law Center in 1982 and a master’s degree from Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) in Washington, D.C., in 1984.

Velazquez later served as an attorney advisor at the U.S. Department of Transportation, and, in 1989, she joined the State Department’s U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) as a legal officer with responsibilities encompassing Central America. During her tenure at USAID, Velazquez held a top secret security clearance and was posted to the U.S. Embassies in Nicaragua and Guatemala. In June 2002, Velazquez resigned from USAID following press reports that Montes had pleaded guilty to espionage and was cooperating with the U.S. government. Velazquez has remained outside the United States since 2002.

The indictment alleges that, beginning in or about 1983, Velazquez conspired with others to transmit to the Cuban government and its agents documents and information relating to the U.S. national defense, with the intent that they would be used to the injury of the United States and to the advantage of the Cuban government.

The Princeton Alumni Weekly identifies the woman on the right as Marta Rita Velázquez (class of 1979) at an anti-apartheid demonstration in 1977
Like Montes, Velazquez received training in Cuba on how to receive coded instructions from Havana on shortwave radio, how to fake her way through gov­ernment-administered polygraph examinations, and how to travel incognito to Cuba using fake passports and disguises, the indictment states.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: chris jones on December 18, 2014, 08:06:56 pm
History goes up in smoke?. Beginnings.
Batista was a sadistic dictator, suking up to the mob and bigcorps.
 During the revoltion the US regime stopped shipping weapons to Batistas military. Had the regime aided castro and his band a tad more things would have worked out differently. Then I ask , why didn't we, a neighbor as an ally would have been preferable rather than a communist Isle of our coast. The writing  was on the wall, Cuba's dictator was going down, our agency knew this. Ahh, but big money was dominating Cuba, the Mafia flourished as well as the corps, a playground for the rich, including pols.
 What started out a freedom fighters became communists.WHY..
 He then instated the 1940 Constitution of Cuba, considered progressive for its time,[4] and served until 1944. After finishing his term he lived in the United States, returning to Cuba to run for president in 1952. Facing certain electoral defeat, he led a military coup that preempted the election.

Back in power, Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.[5] Batista's increasingly corrupt and repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with the American mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large multinational American corporations that had invested considerable amounts of money in Cuba.[5][6] To quell the growing discontent amongst the populace—which was subsequently displayed through frequent student riots and demonstrations—Batista established tighter censorship of the media, while also utilizing his anti-Communist secret police to carry out wide-scale violence, torture and public executions; ultimately killing anywhere from 1,000 to 20,000 people.[7][8] For several years until 1959, the Batista government received financial, military, and logistical support from the United States.[9]

In an effort to find out information about Castro's army people were pulled in for questioning. Many innocent people were tortured. Suspects, including children, were publicly executed and then left hanging in the streets for several days as a warning to others who were considering joining Castro. The behaviour of Batista's forces increased support for the guerrillas. In 1958 forty-five organizations signed an open letter supporting the July 26 Movement. National bodies representing lawyers, architects, dentists, accountants and social workers were amongst those who signed. Castro, who had originally relied on the support of the poor, was now gaining the backing of the influential middle classes.
  Compare this to the Nicaragua deal, just think on it...Had the regimes supported the rebs we would have a friendly neighbor. No matter our elected wonders didn't. I don't cotton to the end of this deal nor the fact our regime played ball with Batista w/ Mao.   Just to toss it in there.
  For some reason I concentrate on the poor folks rather than the  BS rhetoric from the crew.
                   No, I'm not a communist and have no intention of becoming one. 
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 19, 2014, 10:57:09 am
See this really gets BO's respect - the power to execute all your opposition ... really gets him going ... no elections - lifetime dictatorship...
Raul Castro blindfolds a prisoner ready for execution.

Frank Sturgis stands on a mass grave of 71 executed Batistianos         at San Juan Hill, Jan. 11, 1959.
Frank Anthony Sturgis (December 9, 1924 – December 4, 1993), born Frank Angelo Fiorini, was one of the five Watergate burglars whose capture led to the end of the Presidency of Richard Nixon.[1] He served in several branches of the United States military, aided Fidel Castro in the Cuban revolution of 1958, and worked as an undercover operative.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: chris jones on December 19, 2014, 02:58:28 pm
    Hi T. My point was why didn't we ( our Gov) react to the Pimp Batista, afterall it was common knowledge he was a tyrant. Big money , Mafia, -Corps. etc riding the suk train.
     Our CIA and buddys are capabable of many things, ousting Batista was not on their table ,WHY.
Had influnce been inserted, had the regime rebuked Batistas slaughter of the peons, the rebels would not have gone communist..
      OK, had the USA regime steped in things would have a tad different, why didn' we.
Hopes for Honest Government
Even Castro -- a dynamic national figure following his failed Moncada assault of 1953 -- spoke in those terms. "Not Communism or Marxism is our idea. Our political philosophy is representative democracy and social justice in a well-planned economy."  Had we headed these words, the Mafia would have run for the hills. The regime didn't,, they turned their back on this guy... Instead we sent arms to Batistas regime.
  Go figure, it is my honest opinion had we assisted in the takedown of this tyrant, we would have had  made a points, we didn't. The USSR stepped in, why,  because we didn't........
  I'm not hailing Castro, just tossing in my opinion..
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: Dude447 on December 19, 2014, 05:57:51 pm
I Have to admit as a non USA member of this forum .the news that the Usa and Cuba where setting up diplomatic links was a positive thing
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: Dude447 on December 19, 2014, 06:04:21 pm
Talking of border relationships hows  its going down in Mexico
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 19, 2014, 07:52:58 pm
Two wrongs don't make a right - So what else is on the lameduck dictators bucket list?

Batista never sent torturers to work over American service men or maintain the HoChi Minh trail or send spies to undermine the USA or let a foreign power place nukes to threaten us ... No Batista never really thought of those possibilities
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 20, 2014, 12:58:46 pm
Raul Castro Thanks U.S. but Affirms Cuba’s Communist Rule

HAVANA — President Raúl Castro declared victory for the Cuban Revolution on Saturday in a wide-ranging speech, thanking President Obama for “a new chapter,” while also reaffirming that restored relations with the United States did not mean the end of Communist rule in Cuba.

In a televised speech that lasted less than an hour at the end of Cuba’s legislative session, Mr. Castro alternated between conciliatory and combative statements against the United States and the rest of the world.

He emphasized that Cuba would accelerate its economic reform, prioritizing an end to the country’s dual-currency system. But he also said that changes needed to be gradual to create a system of “prosperous and sustainable communism.”
Raul Castro’s Long History of Crimes Against Humanity
Author By Guest Column  February 25, 2008

The Cuban National Assembly has named longtime Minister of Defense, Raúl Castro, President of Cuba. As second-in-command of a 49-year old dictatorship, he is directly responsible for crimes against humanity on countless thousands in Cuba and worldwide.

Raúl Castro, as longtime member of Cuba’s Council of State, has been signing execution orders for years. But, his killing career began early on. In 1956, while in exile in Mexico, he murdered a former comrade. During the revolutionary struggle in the mountains, he executed deserters and informants. In the early days of the Revolution, while in charge of the Oriente province, he had hundreds of men killed. In one day alone, he ordered at least 72 men executed without trial in the city of Santiago. All throughout the night of January 12, 1959 and into the following day, successive groups of men were lined up in front of ditches at San Juan Hill and shot by firing squads. Raúl is reported to have gleefully delivered the coup d’grace on a few. Afterwards, a bulldozer was brought in to cover the mass graves. Among the victims was policeman Benito Cortés, an American citizen born in Puerto Rico and father of five. In 1966, Raúl had the bodies exhumed, encased in concrete, and dumped into deep waters off the coast of Cuba

As Defense Minister, Raúl Castro is responsible for war crimes in and out of Cuba. During the rural uprising of the sixties, his armed forces set fire and executed hundreds of prisoners on the spot. During the Bay of Pigs invasion of 1961, five prisoners were executed shortly after their capture; nine were deliberately asphyxiated in a trailer truck. The toll of victims multiplies over the course of decades with Cuba’s international military incursions in Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East. Intentional attacks on civilian populations in Angola are part of his legacy.

That Raúl’s promotion happens on the anniversary of one of his noteworthy crimes is not without significance. On February 24, 1996, as dozens of members of Cuba’s peaceful opposition were rounded up, Cuban MIGs shot down two unarmed civilian airplanes in international airspace while flying a humanitarian search and rescue mission for the non-profit group “Brothers to the Rescue.” Three U.S. citizens, including a Vietnam War veteran, and a young man formerly rescued by the group perished. The incident was condemned by the International Civil Aviation Organization in Montreal and the Cuban government was found by a U.S. Superior Court to have committed premeditated murder.

For more information on victims of the Cuban Revolution, see

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 20, 2014, 01:56:41 pm
"trying something New was done by the Clintons with North Korea - How 'bout Nuclear power Plants? That's a good idea ...  Basically I refute the idea that you can reason or have diplomatic relations with psychopathic killers

People seem to bypass the fact that Cuba's head of State, el prezidente has PERSONNALLY murdered/executed hundreds of people by his own hands , his hand pulling the trigger with the pistole - Like BO has with drones

Chamberlain tried "something new with Hitler - How did that work out?

Denuclearization pledges

In 1994, North Korea signed the U.S.-North Korea Agreed Framework with the United States. North Korea thereby agreed to end its graphite-moderated nuclear reactor program, including the construction of a 200 MWe power reactor at Taechon, in exchange for the construction of two 1000-MWe light-water reactors at Kumho.
Construction of these was started in 2000 by the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization, but was suspended in November 2003. Under the Six-Party Talks held on 19 September 2005, North Korea pledged to end all its nuclear programs and return to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, submitting to international inspections in return for benefits including energy aid and normalization of relations with Japan and the United States.

On 25 June 2008, it was announced that North Korea was to end its nuclear program; its nuclear declaration was to be handed over to China in Beijing on 26 June 2008. The nuclear devices that North Korea already had, however, were to be handed over at a later date. Earlier, on 23 June, North Korea stated that it had begun to dismantle its nuclear program and declared that it would turn over all of its plans to the international community.[10]

In 2009, Siegfried Hecker, the co-director of the Stanford University Center for International Security and Cooperation, said that "prior to its April rocket launch, North Korea had discharged approximately 6,100 of the 8,000 fuel rods from its 5-megawatt reactor to the cooling pool, but disablement slowed to a crawl of 15 fuel rods/week, dragging out the projected completion of fuel unloading well into 2011."[11]

Despite these apparent shutdown efforts, North Korea's nuclear tests in 2006, 2009 and 2013 have called into question its denuclearization commitment.[2] In April 2013, amid rising tensions with the West, North Korea stated that it would restart the mothballed Yongbyon facility and resume production of weapons-grade plutonium.
Who Gave North Korea Nukes In The First Place?
The U.S. government and the CIA

Paul Joseph Watson
 April 12, 2013

Amidst reports that North Korea now has nuclear-equipped ballistic missiles as experts warn a conflict on the Korean peninsular is more likely than not, it’s important to remember who armed North Korea with nuclear weapons in the first place – namely the U.S. government and the CIA
Both the Clinton and Bush administrations played a key role in helping the late Kim Jong-Il develop North Korea’s nuclear prowess from the mid 1990′s onwards.

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld presided over a $200 million dollar contract to deliver equipment and services to build two light water reactor stations in North Korea in January 2000 when he was an executive director of ABB (Asea Brown Boveri). Wolfram Eberhardt, a spokesman for ABB confirmed that Rumsfeld was at nearly all the board meetings during his involvement with the company.

Rumsfeld was merely picking up the baton from the Clinton administration, who in 1994 agreed to replace North Korea’s domestically built nuclear reactors with light water nuclear reactors.
Clinton policy wonks claimed that light water reactors couldn’t be used to make bombs. Not so according to Henry Sokolski, head of the Non-proliferation Policy Education Center in Washington, who stated, “LWRs could be used to produce dozens of bombs’ worth of weapons-grade plutonium in both North Korea and Iran. This is true of all LWRs — a depressing fact U.S. policymakers have managed to block out.”

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The logic of a psychopath
The Significance of Psychopaths for Ethical and Legal Reasoning
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: chris jones on December 21, 2014, 12:08:00 pm
Hi T.
I'm not defending the communist regime in Cuba nor the actions you mentioned, simply put, back in the 50's had the NSA/-regime decided to cut the money train & arms- Batista, we would have had a friendly neighbor.
  That would have upset the Mob & supercorps..
 Friends or enemy's, as you mentioned the culprits who sent nuclear gear to N.Korea= The USA.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 06, 2015, 12:27:52 pm
Mr. Maximum's ex-lover passes - deluded communist  - typical communist useful idiot
Naty Revuelta Clews, Castro's lover - obituary

High society beauty turned revolutionary who pawned her jewels for Fidel Castro and bore him a child

Naty Revuelta Clews, who has died in Havana aged 89, was thought to be the most beautiful woman in Cuba’s high society when she became the lover of Fidel Castro, pawning her jewels to pave the way for revolution and bearing his illegitimate child.

Spurned by Castro in his moment of triumph, she remained devotedly loyal to the “Maximum Leader”, only for their daughter to flee in disguise into exile where she publicly reviled her father.

Naty Revuelta and Castro met for the first time on the moonlit steps of the University of Havana in 1952. She was then 26, married to a surgeon 20 years her senior, and bored by motherhood and cocktail parties. Her tawny hair, large green eyes and shapely form had made her the toast of the tennis clubs and bridge tables frequented by Havana’s privileged elite, and her striking looks at once enchanted Castro.

He was the kind of person who couldn’t be ignored,” she recalled years later. “If he was in a room, people paid attention. I too had a certain charm of my own.”

Unknown to her husband, the house became a base for Castro’s planned attack on the Moncada barracks in Santiago. Naty Revuelta was soon sewing uniforms, distributing manifestos to newspapers and handing over her savings, diamonds and sapphires to further the cause.


She did not see Castro again until his rebels took Havana three years later. He then visited her, and saw their child, Alina, for the first time. But while the worldly Naty had made an alluring contrast to the more provincial Mirta, she did not represent the ideal wife for the champion of the poor.

She had convinced herself that she would become the first lady of Communist Cuba, but Castro soon disabused her. Worse, he refused to recognise Alina as his offspring. (Very little is known about Castro’s wives and children – he is thought to have had at least seven children by three different women.)

Moreover, Castro’s house calls had at last aroused the suspicions of Revuelta’s husband, and in 1961 he divorced her. He then decamped to the United States, taking with him their elder daughter, also called Natalia.

Natalia Revuelta Clews was born in Havana on December 6 1925. Her maternal Clews grandfather was an English engineer from Newcastle-under-Lyme. Her parents divorced when she was young, and her mother – by all accounts a tyrannical presence – later married an executive with the American-owned Havana Electrical Company.
Despite her rejection by Castro, and the difficulty she had in forgetting it when images of him were everywhere, she remained loyal to the revolution. She enrolled in labour brigades, disdained to shop on the black market to make life more tolerable, and later took jobs in various ministries. In return, she was allowed to keep her large house in Nuevo Vedado, a once-fashionable district of the capital, and was permitted to travel to the United States to see her elder child.
Naty Revuelta Clews, born December 6 1925, died February 27 2015

[ gee ya think this movie had something to do with Castro? ]
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: fred.greek on March 06, 2015, 08:44:44 pm
The Cuba “embargo” never made any sense to me.  The only way to make any sense of it was to see Cuba as a NOW experiment, cut off from the west, then from the soviets, to see what happens. 

In this "communist" island, how is it that the US has retained a naval base?????
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 06, 2015, 11:05:46 pm
The Cuba “embargo” never made any sense to me.  The only way to make any sense of it was to see Cuba as a NOW experiment, cut off from the west, then from the soviets, to see what happens. 

In this "communist" island, how is it that the US has retained a naval base?????

fidel Castro, Raul and Che lined up hundreds of innocent people up against walls and shot them, real sweethearts , imprisoned thousands in the name of creating their communist dictatorship ...   later they threatened the US with nuclear destruction, other countries can deal with them ... we had principles back in those days ... we didn't like to shake hands with a head of state that had Personally murdered many people with blood still dripping from his hands   see  and look up Fernando Vecino Alegret 
Maybe our govt. knows things you don't about castro ..
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 12, 2015, 09:28:41 pm
Obama gets to meet a real certified killer ... wow ... must really get him going ...
Even before the triumph of the Revolution, Castro and his gang were prone to murder those who disagreed with them.

In the photo below, taken while still in the Sierra Maestra mountains, Fidel Castro's brother, Raul, is seen getting ready to shoot a young rebel soldier who disobeyed orders.

And more than fifty years after the above photo was taken, Castro and his gang of murderers continue to send to the firing squad, those Cubans who oppose his betrayal of the Revolution.

The Cuban Memorial displayed at Tamiami Park, Miami, Florida:
Each cross bears the name of a victim of Castro's genocide against the Cuban people

Why is the entire World blind to a half century of Castro's Crimes?
Why is it that very few people seem to care about Castro's genocide against the Cuban people?
Obama Meets Raúl Castro, Making History
APRIL 11, 2015
“Our governments will continue to have differences,” he said at a news conference wrapping up the summit meeting. “At the same time, we agreed that we can continue to take steps forward that advance our mutual interests.”
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: jofortruth on April 27, 2015, 08:09:32 pm
Obama Warns of Anti-Globalization Sentiment in Both Parties

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 27, 2015, 09:24:28 pm
I can't get enough of that Global collectivist slavery .... umym good ...

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: chris jones on April 27, 2015, 10:17:27 pm
Oby warns us, cn't we take that as a threat.
His master are pushing, his minions are busy lil paraSITES.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: jofortruth on April 28, 2015, 09:46:25 am
Obama: Trade critics being 'unrealistic'

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: larsonstdoc on April 28, 2015, 11:43:44 am


  You Oby can lick the boots of the Queen, the Rothschilds, the Bilderbergs---some of the Congressmen refuse to go along with these rat bastards.  These rat bastards control your strings, Mr Puppet.  If we go along with their schemes, we will be slaves or worse DEAD.

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 01, 2015, 10:29:10 am
Old news but interesting ....
Promising a third Obama term...
Cuba says it has a right to grant asylum to US fugitives
Associated Press
December 22, 2014 10:19 PM

HAVANA (AP) — Cuba said Monday that it has a right to grant asylum to U.S. fugitives, the clearest sign yet that the communist government has no intention of extraditing America's most-wanted woman despite the warming of bilateral ties.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has urged President Barack Obama to demand the return of fugitive Joanne Chesimard before restoring full relations under a historic detente announced by Obama and Cuban President Raul Castro last week.

Chesimard was granted asylum by Fidel Castro after she escaped from the prison where she was serving a sentence for killing a New Jersey state trooper in 1973
during a gunbattle after being stopped on the New Jersey Turnpike.
"So Joanne Chesimard, a cold-blooded cop-killer, convicted by a jury of her peers, in what is without question the fairest and most just criminal justice system in the world — certainly much more just than anything that's happened in Cuba under the Castro brothers. She is now, according to an official of the Cuban government, persecuted," he said.

Assata Olugbala Shakur (born JoAnne Deborah Byron on July 16, 1947[1]), whose married name was Chesimard,[2][3] is an African-American activist and member of the former Black Panther Party (BPP) and Black Liberation Army (BLA). Between 1971 and 1973, Shakur was accused of several crimes and was the subject of a multistate manhunt.[4][5]

In May 1973, Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, in which she was accused of killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and grievously assaulting Trooper James Harper.[6] BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur was also killed in the incident, and Shakur was wounded.[6] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[7]

Shakur was incarcerated in several prisons in the 1970s. She escaped from prison in 1979 and fled to Cuba in 1984 after living as a fugitive for a few years, and received political asylum. She has been living in Cuba ever since. Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified her as a domestic terrorist and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. On May 2, 2013, the FBI added her to the Most Wanted Terrorist List; the first woman to be listed.[8] On the same day, the New Jersey Attorney General offered to match the FBI reward, increasing the total reward for her capture to $2 million
Changing U.S.-Cuba relations could bring return of wanted criminals Joanne Chesimard and Guillermo Morales
BY  Larry Mcshane   /
Thursday, April 16, 2015, 8:20 PM
President Obama’s call to remove Cuba from the list of state sponsors of terrorism opened the door for the possible extradition of cop killer Joanne Chesimard and terrorist bombmaker Guillermo Morales.

Both Chesimard and Morales escaped the U.S. in 1979 after their arrests: he through a window in the prison ward at Bellevue Hospital, and she from a New Jersey prison with the help of armed comrades.
Morales was associated with the FALN, a Puerto Rican separatist group long linked to a deadly 1975 explosion at the landmark Fraunces Tavern in lower Manhattan.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 01, 2015, 10:39:09 am
I wonder are we to accept many Cuban Asylum seekers? hmmmm....
U.S. and Cuba to announce embassy openings
By Jim Acosta, Elise Labott and Kevin Liptak, CNN
Updated 11:21 AM ET, Wed July 1, 2015

Washington (CNN)—The United States and Cuba on Wednesday plan to officially seal the renewal of diplomatic ties begun last year, announcing the reopening of embassies in Washington and Havana for the first time in more than half-a-century, two senior administration officials told CNN on Tuesday.

"We will formally announce tomorrow that the United States and Cuba have reached an agreement to re-establish formal diplomatic relations and open embassies in each other's capitals," one senior U.S. administration official said. "We expect President Obama and Secretary Kerry to address this publicly tomorrow morning."

In Havana, the American embassy will likely occupy the same building where the Interests Section currently operates, White House aides have said. That's the same structure, situated on the Havana waterfront, which housed the American embassy prior to the severing of diplomatic ties after the Cuban Revolution in the 1950s.

How many Cubans will be visiting the US? on the ferries?
Ferries set to run between U.S. and Cuba
By Kevin Liptak, CNN White House Producer
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 01, 2015, 11:09:16 am

How many Cubans will be visiting the US? on the ferries?

  ANOTHER QUESTION TO ASK....How many people will buy a round trip ticket and only use HALF of the ticket?

  I can see them running loose in Miami and Orlando and never being caught---setting up shop in the USA.

  In many places in Florida, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK SPANISH TO GET A JOB---from a post a few years ago.

  More Democratic voters---that's the real reason behind all this garbage.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: Al Bundy on July 01, 2015, 01:22:00 pm
"Conspiracy theory"

Guys, did you notice that US President Obama is working to improve diplomatic relations with the  Communist Cuba this year when Russia wrote off the debts of Cuba. Also Russian President Putin held talks with his counterpart Raul Castro about setting up Russian military bases in that country?  ::)
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 21, 2015, 01:47:21 pm
Cuban Embassy returns to the U.S.
Posted: Jul 20, 2015 2:30 PM PDT

For the first time in 50 years, the Cuban flag is flying over the Cuban Embassy in Washington, D.C. The flag symbolizes the newly-restored diplomatic relations with the communist nation.

Obama's new friends like to torture

The following letter was sent to Reporters Without Borders, by Lazaro Yuri Valle, detailing some of the human rights violations being experienced by the Cuban population. As the USA prepares to open its Havana embassy the Castro family dictatorship is hardening its position and using more violence against the population.
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on February 20, 2016, 01:26:00 pm
Classic BO  - Cuba trip more important than attending Scalia Funeral (which he was responsible for?)
White House: President Obama To Visit Cuba, Won’t Attend Scalia’s Funeral
February 18, 2016 12:45 PM


White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Wednesday that Vice President Joe Biden and his wife Jill Biden will attend the funeral on Saturday at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington.

There’s no word from the White House as to why the first family is passing on attending Scalia’s funeral, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan reported.


Word of his travel plans drew immediate resistance from opponents of warmer ties with Cuba — including Republican presidential candidates.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, whose father came to the U.S. from Cuba in the 1950s, said Obama shouldn’t visit while the Castro family remains in power. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, another child of Cuban immigrants, lambasted the president for visiting what he called an “anti-American communist dictatorship.”

“Today, a year and two months after the opening of Cuba, the Cuban government remains as oppressive as ever,” Rubio said on CNN
. Told of Obama’s intention to visit, he added, “Probably not going to invite me.”

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unvetted communist cuban gorillas  flood the border

it just goes on and on and on ...
Tensions simmer as Cubans breeze across Texas border

 2:23 p.m. Friday, Feb. 12, 2016 | Filed in: State

LAREDO — A fast-rising influx of Cubans are crossing the border into Texas by the hundreds each day, approved to enter the United States in a matter of hours.

They walk out to a Laredo street and are greeted by volunteers from Cubanos en Libertad, or Cubans in Freedom, a nonprofit. The volunteers help them arrange travel to their U.S. destination — often Miami — and start applying for work permits and such federal benefits as food stamps and Medicaid, available by law to Cubans immediately after their arrival.

A group of veterans from Afghanistan and Iraq held two protests by the border bridge in recent weeks, saying the federal government was spending money on Cubans when it was not meeting the needs of people here.

In coming weeks the number of Cubans is expected to spike, as more than 5,000 who have been stalled in Costa Rica since late last year will leave there on regular plane flights agreed to by governments in Central America and Mexico. Already about 12,100 Cubans entered through Laredo and other Texas border stations in the last three months of 2015, according to official figures. Border officials say as many as 48,000 Cubans could cross here this year, more than all those who came in the last two years combined.

The recent exodus from Cuba began in mid-2014, even before President Barack Obama in December of that year announced a restoration of diplomatic relations with its communist government. In a major change, President Raúl Castro allowed Cubans to leave the country without exit visas. Many Cubans have said that rumors that special entry to the U.S. would be canceled had caused them to pack up and go.


This week, the first direct flights from Costa Rica to the Mexican city just across the border brought more than 300 Cubans, including at least 41 pregnant women and their families.

One of them, Yadelys Rodríguez Martín, 28, who was 19 weeks pregnant, said she was stunned by how quickly she had been admitted into the U.S.

“We are not used to things happening so fast,” Rodríguez said
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 20, 2016, 04:29:23 pm
Hours before Obama’s arrival in Cuba, Castro regime violently arrests Ladies in White and over 50 dissidents
March 20, 2016 by Alberto de la Cruz   

Empowered by Obama’s new policy of embracing Cuba’s repressive dictatorship, the apartheid Castro regime unleashed a hellish Sunday of violent repression against the Ladies in White and other dissidents who attempted to carry out their Sunday peaceful protests. Just hours from Obama’s arrival in Cuba, the Ladies in White had been arrested and forced into a bus while more than fifty other dissidents suffered vicious and brutal beatings at the hands of Cuban State Security before being arrested.

Here is video of the Ladies in White being taken away by bus by Cuban police:


... this could be interesting.   :o

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Eyeing new future with US,
Cubans await visit by Obama


HAVANA (AP) — Eyeing a new future with the U.S., Cubans are preparing their famed capital for a long-awaited visit by President Barack Obama, who will make history when Air Force One touches down in Havana on Sunday.

Obama's visit to the island nation will serve as a powerful symbol of the relationship that the U.S. and Cuba are now forging. For Obama, the 2 1/2-day trip offers one of the last, best chances to advance the diplomatic opening with President Raul Castro before Obama leaves office early next year.

Ahead of Obama's arrival, American flags were raised in parts of Havana alongside Cuban flags, an improbable image for those who lived through more than a half-century in which the U.S. and Cuba were bitter foes. Cubans have been hard at work cleaning up Old Havana in recent days and giving buildings a fresh coat of paint, as the city buzzed in anticipation of Obama's visit.

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 21, 2016, 12:13:20 pm
Mission incomplete ...

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 26, 2016, 10:18:33 am
thank you lord Castro is DEAD DEAD DEAD ,,, now for the Brother Raul
Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 30, 2018, 09:22:47 am

 Raul Castro will step down as Cuba's president on April 19, 2018, he announced Thursday during the National Assembly meeting in Havana.

Castro, 86, has led the country since 2006 after his brother, Fidel Castro, stepped down due to health issues. The younger Castro officially became the country's president in 2008. Fidel Castro died on Nov. 25, 2016, at the age of 90.
Miguel Díaz-Canel confirmed as Cuba's new president

The silver-haired Diaz-Canel - a top Communist Party figure who has served as first vice president since 2013 - is the island's first leader born after the 1959 revolution.

In a speech after his appointment he vowed to keep the Caribbean island on the path of "revolution," but also on the path of economic reform.
Mr Diaz-Canel was elected in a landmark vote of the National Assembly a day before his 58th birthday.
Thursday's symbolic vote took place on the anniversary of the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion, when Fidel's forces defeated 1,400 US-backed rebels seeking to overthrow him.
Crucially, he will remain under the watchful eye of Castro, who will continue to serve as the head of Cuba's all-powerful Communist Party.

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Cuban Crime Lords/ JFK Assassination Coverup
English spoke extensively on the dark career of Cuban American exile José Miguel Battle and his role in fighting with CIA-trained Cuban exiles during the ill-fated Bay Of Pigs invasion in 1961. Battle remained in the US after the fiasco and began to build a criminal empire based on the illegal numbers racket (lottery) along the entire Eastern seaboard. He added that the Cuban mob also sponsored assassinations and other politically-motivated dirty tricks in support of the CIA, which promised Cuban exiles that they would eventually assassinate Fidel Castro. At its height, the numbers operation even counted certain police forces in New York and New Jersey among its co-conspirators. Battle was eventually caught and died in custody in 2007.
The Infamous Firing Squads

Thousands of Cubans have died in front of Castro’s infamous ‘paredón’ (the wall). There was no discrimination, as far as sending people to the firing squad was concerned. Young and old, black and white, rich and poor were sent to ‘el paredón’.
Many of those who helped Castro gain power, like Comandantes Ernesto Sori Marin and William Morgan, an American, were among the thousands who were shot.


The Cuban Memorial displayed at Tamiami Park, Miami, Florida: Each cross bears the name of a victim of Castro the brothers’ genocide against the Cuban people
May 28, 2012 Issue   

The Yankee Comandante

A story of love, revolution, and betrayal


William Alexander Morgan being applauded by Fidel Castro, in Havana in 1959. Morgan said that he had joined the Cuban Revolution because “the most important thing for free men to do is to protect the freedom of others.”   
Photograph Courtesy Ramiro Lorenzo

Title: Re: Obama announces US will establish embassy in Cuba, lift sanctions
Post by: TahoeBlue on June 07, 2018, 10:45:05 am
US screens more staff in China over mystery health issues
50 minutes ago

GUANGZHOU, China (AP) ? A U.S. medical team was screening more Americans who work at the consulate in southern China as the State Department confirmed evacuating a number of government employees who experienced unexplained health issues like those that have hurt U.S. personnel in Cuba and China.

The evacuations of workers in Guangzhou followed medical testing that revealed they might have been affected. State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said ?a number of individuals? had been brought to the U.S. but didn?t say how many were affected or evacuated. A previous case in Guangzhou, disclosed last month, prompted the tests.

Nauert also said that remaining U.S. government personnel and their families in Guangzhou would also be able to request testing if they ?noted concerning symptoms or wanted baseline screening.?

The incidents have raised fears the unexplained issues that started in Cuba in 2016 have expanded. The U.S. government has deemed those incidents ?specific attacks? on American workers but hasn?t publicly identified a cause or culprit. Most of the incidents were accompanied by bizarre, unexplained sounds that initially led U.S. investigators to suspect a sonic attack.

Symptoms have included dizziness, headaches and an inability to concentrate. The American government worker who previously was removed from China reported ?subtle and vague, but abnormal, sensations of sound and pressure,? the Guangzhou consulate reported last month