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Title: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on June 17, 2015, 09:16:34 am
A placeholder for the Donald  POTUS stories  .... 

http://www.amazon.com/The-America-Deserve-Donald-Trump/dp/1580631312
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The America We Deserve Hardcover  – January 1, 2000
by Donald Trump   (Author)

Throughout The American We Deserve, Donald Trump points out problems and offers sensible, practical solutions. To help him formulate his ideas into well-researched and workable policies, Donald Trump has secured the support and counsel of a group of domestic and foreign policy advisers, all with White House or senior policy experience.

In The American We Deserve, Donald Trump lays out his concerns and solutions, virtually a platform on the major political issues facing our country. But this is not a dry, public-policy book. This is Donald Trump taking on the issues in his no-nonsense, unvarnished manner, offering populist, provocative, and sometimes dramatic solutions that no other politician would dare to put forward.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hRfpEcs8P8
Donald Trump -- Running for President!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in-z4H9HiLM
Donald Trump Announces Run For President - SPEECH - June 16, 2015
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: lee51 on June 17, 2015, 06:44:40 pm
Nearly every picture in the news shows Trump with his mouth open. He is harsh, dictatorial and a pain in the rear, in my opinion. He says he is a Christian. 

However I haven't dismissed him completely...still watching all GOP runners for POTUS.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on June 17, 2015, 07:36:46 pm
He's the Multi-Billion dollar spoiler, just like Perot was back in the day ...
He's totally obnoxious and shows what losers and how ugly all the people in politics are,  So we need to watch the train wreck.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on June 18, 2015, 09:38:52 am
He's the Multi-Billion dollar spoiler, just like Perot was back in the day ...
He's totally obnoxious and shows what losers and how ugly all the people in politics are,  So we need to watch the train wreck.

  He's a drama "king".
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: windyacres on June 18, 2015, 12:46:01 pm
  He's a drama "king".

That's what it is about him I couldn't put my finger on!
If he gets elected and does what he says about turning the
USA around I'll be surprised.  He'll pull what zero did and
later say  " It was just campaign rhetoric"   and sit back
and do nothing he said he would to improve things and
probably get caught with his pants down in the oval office...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on June 18, 2015, 01:21:48 pm
That's what it is about him I couldn't put my finger on!
If he gets elected and does what he says about turning the
USA around I'll be surprised.  He'll pull what zero did and
later say  " It was just campaign rhetoric"   and sit back
and do nothing he said he would to improve things and
probably get caught with his pants down in the oval office...

  As we can see from the TPP Fiasco, nothing is going to change until REAL PEOPLE are in office---people who care about what this country USE TO BE.  Do I think it is going to happen?  Maybe, but only after the collapse.  A lot of the current politicians and bankers will have to be put in shackles.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: windyacres on June 18, 2015, 02:48:46 pm
TPTB, The Puppet Masters, won't let real people get in office.
If a collapse comes, I see a good 10 years of smoke and ash
before any semblance of government gets cobbled back together.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on June 18, 2015, 04:51:56 pm
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/06/18/at_trumps_nh_rally_true_believers_and_big_fans_127030.html
At Trump's N.H. Rally, True Believers and Big Fans
By Caitlin Huey-Burns - June 18, 2015
...

“It’s nice to just hear somebody say exactly what they think,” said Cheryl Caza-Tobey, a Hooksett resident who came to the Trump event but hasn’t made a decision about which candidate she will support. “I watched him on TV yesterday and I thought, ‘Well, he’s just saying it like it is.’ A lot of us are thinking the same exact thing. I hate to say it, but every four years somebody comes up and they say the same things over and over again, and nothing changes. … I think he wants to stir things up.”
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But not all were ready to take Trump at his word.

“I think he’s a little too full of himself,” said Cindy Freese of Manchester, who came to the event out of curiosity. Asked if she believed Trump is running for president as a publicity stunt or actually in it for the long haul, Freese said, “Who knows? It could go any which way—because he’s done it before, hasn’t he?”
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Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on June 18, 2015, 10:13:05 pm
 I had a post about Trump some time age [but I could not find it]; he will get my vote and I pray Ben Carson is with him.

This Nation NEEDS someone form OUTSIDE of the Washington DC straggle hold they have on all of us!

I pick Trump with Carson! or Carson/Trump!

This ticket could be our 'Trump' Card in this Global Euchre Game... ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: lee51 on June 23, 2015, 10:27:04 am
There is no way anyone could take Trump seriously.  Mexico is steaming at the comments he made when he announced he was running for President. And many people don't take him seriously.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2015/06/23/donald-trump-mexico-bashing-collides-with-miss-universe-pageant

MONEY TRUMPS EVERYTHING

We can never really be sure what Donald Trump's plans are. Does he really want to be president, or is this 2016 candidacy just another marketing campaign? Does he really imagine he could win, or does he just want the ego satisfaction of nudging a competitor more experienced in public service off the debate stage?

One thing we do know about The Donald is that he loves money. He's told us that, saying gleefully in his presidential announcement speech that "I'm really rich." But what happens when love of money runs up against desire for power and attention?

The real estate mogul and compulsive self-brander may just find that out. Trump owns the Miss Universe pageant, a beauty "competition" that remains popular in Latin America. Three of the last five Miss Universe winners (including the reigning Miss Universe, Paulina Vega of Colombia) are from Latin America, and a third of all the Miss Universe winners in history come from the region. Notably, last year's first runner-up, Miss USA Nia Sanchez, is Latina.

So it didn't go over so well when Latin Americans heard the part of Trump's announcement speech where he described Mexican immigrants to the U.S. as a bunch of ne'er-do-wells, drug traffickers and rapists. Said Trump in his address:

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems. Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

(Read more at the link above)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on June 23, 2015, 07:36:52 pm
 Trump has the $Cash$ and I pray he out plays the LOSERS from DC------The Dummy Club  :o

Most Americans HATE the DC Club: but are timid in moving for a third man in the mix---if ya follow my drift..!

I would vote for Trump: and many I have spoken with will do the same.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 01, 2015, 09:39:26 pm
Trump rate number 2 spot Jebby 's still rating Numero uno ... but trailing HillDog ....

How could this be manipulated sooo well ??


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2015/0701/Why-is-Donald-Trump-surging-in-early-polls
Why is Donald Trump surging in early polls?

Trump's name recognition and high visibility may be the reason for his meteoric rise in national and state polls.
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The latest, a CNN/ORC national poll out Wednesday, has Mr. Trump in second place among Republicans, behind former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, one of only two Republicans with double-digit support.


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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/06/29/nbc-dumps-trump/29471971/
NBC to Donald Trump: You're fired

Donald Trump's comments about Mexican immigrants have yet more consequences: NBC dumped his beauty pageants and reiterated he will not be in The Apprentice anymore.

The network, which has been under pressure to fire Trump since last week, when Univision announced it would not air the Spanish-language version of Trump's Miss USA Pageant, said in a statement that "respect and dignity for all people are cornerstones of our values."

"Due to the recent derogatory statements by Donald Trump regarding immigrants, NBCUniversal is ending its business relationship with Mr. Trump," the statement said.

"To that end, the annual Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants, which are part of a joint venture between NBC and Trump, will no longer air on NBC. In addition, as Mr. Trump has already indicated, he will not be participating in The Apprentice on NBC" because he has announced he's running as a Republican candidate for president
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Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on July 02, 2015, 07:57:44 am
 The more Nit Wits who 'dump' Trump; the more Popular he will become: as Americans will see the Two Faced Rhetoric from the Establishment and Politicians!

 The more MUD they throw at Trump: the Cleaner he will look!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 02, 2015, 01:08:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHYmZqSk1us
Donald Trump on Howard Stern Show Full Interview 2015
Published on May 7, 2015
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on July 02, 2015, 01:20:33 pm
I can not take Trump seriously as a candidate.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 02, 2015, 02:33:59 pm
I can not take Trump seriously as a candidate.

Aj said it today ... Trump is a ringer for Jeb. Jeb is a ringer for Clinton.

Trump will drop out after destroying the chances for the" lesser" unsupported candidates ( like Rand Paul ) and that support will go to Jeb. Jeb will then lose to Hillary....
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on July 02, 2015, 10:02:03 pm
 For the last 40 years; I have watched all of the Washington DC Goofs, who have left America on the Verge of becoming a Third World Nation!

SO WHAT THE HELL HAVE THEY DONE?

I'll Vote Trump: because he is new to their game & he has his OWN Cash---which most goofs in DC do not! and he owes nobody!

...if the game is to be WON?... is Not a NEW strategy needed? and a Trump Card may be in reason!...let the game begin... ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 02, 2015, 10:38:23 pm
Trump has got a lot of people talking, in my neighborhood most are liking what hes saying. 

 iamc2
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he has his OWN Cash 
that is refreshing.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 02, 2015, 10:59:59 pm
Sheriff Joe’s got Trump’s back

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In a radio interview recorded Thursday, Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio backed up some of Donald Trump’s remarks about illegal immigrants while defending the real estate moguls’ “right to voice his opinion.”







Arpaio stated, “There’s no lie about the drugs coming from Mexico.”

“Everybody knows that,” he said. “I talk about it all the time. The majority of the drugs coming into my county, they are from Mexico. So that’s a true statement.”

Arpaio further asserted his belief that Trump did not mean “to say anything derogatory about all the great people from Mexico.”

The outspoken sheriff said it was “amusing to see all the heat because [Trump] made a few statements.”

“And I presume he is not going to back down. I would imagine he is going to continue to voice his opinion,” Arpaio said.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/sheriff-joes-got-trumps-back/#mX34vxKqelE6Qkej.99
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 03, 2015, 12:07:43 pm
oh 400 Illegal Alien Rapist and 200 Murderers released by Obama :

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/12/murderers-rapists-kidnappers-over-36000-criminal-illegal-immigrants-released-in-2013/
Murderers, Rapists, Kidnappers: Over 36,000 Criminal Illegal Immigrants Released In 2013

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Nearly 200 murderers, over 400 rapists, and 300 kidnappers in the U.S. illegally were released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement while awaiting deportation proceedings, according to a new report from the Center for Immigration Studies.

....

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on July 03, 2015, 12:33:25 pm
Aj said it today ... Trump is a ringer for Jeb. Jeb is a ringer for Clinton.

Trump will drop out after destroying the chances for the" lesser" unsupported candidates ( like Rand Paul ) and that support will go to Jeb. Jeb will then lose to Hillary....

That is what he did last time ?

I seem to remember him doing that, like it is some kind of tactic.

I could see 'country club' and a few other wanabe posh americans voting for him, but I can not see Joe Public voting for Trump in volume. It really is hard to take him seriously.


But the Republican Party is the American Tory Party. This is something that has disturbed me for many years. But they have been very good at hiding the Tory Ideology and persuading the public they are some thing that actually cares about ordinary americans. Running Trump just destroys the illusion that they are anything but Tory America.


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 03, 2015, 12:56:28 pm
The 1% people that started the revolution  were among the wealthiest people in the colonies ...
Something that is often conveniently overlooked ... 

We need wealthy patriots to rally around ...

Silly revolutionary war history:


see:

1761 - When “the intercolonial 'trust' or combine formed in 1761,” it was “composed largely of American Jewish Merchants - Newport Jews held residences in other places like Portugal, the West Indies, Boston, Leicester (Mass.), Providence, Richmond, Wilmington, Savannah, Charleston, North Carolina and New Orleans. (https://books.google.com/books?id=vc88AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=1761+%E2%80%9Cthe+intercolonial+'trust'+or+combine+formed+in+1761&source=bl&ots=sjA2PLMeWn&sig=ksxL-plP29qru2nnvRXMsvacz9g&hl=en&sa=X&ei=gd-WVaSvK439yQT7_5CYDg&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=1761%20%E2%80%9Cthe%20intercolonial%20'trust'%20or%20combine%20formed%20in%201761&f=false)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Sint_Eustatius
The Capture of Saint Eustatius took place in February 1781 during the American War of Independence when British army and naval forces under General John Vaughan and Admiral George Rodney seized the Dutch-owned Caribbean island of Sint Eustatius.
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St. Eustatius, a Dutch-controlled island in the West Indies, was an entrepot that operated as a major trading centre despite its relatively small size. During the American War of Independence it assumed increased importance, because a British blockade made it difficult to transport supplies directly across the Atlantic Ocean to US ports. St. Eustatius became a crucial source of supplies, and its harbour was filled with American trading ships
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The Andrew Doria arrived to purchase military supplies on St. Eustatius and to present to the Dutch governor a copy of the US Declaration of Independence. An earlier copy of the Declaration had been captured by a British naval ship. The British were confused by the papers wrapped around the declaration, which they thought were a secret cypher. The papers were written in Yiddish for a merchant in Holland.[2]

St. Eustatius's role in supplying Britain's enemies provoked anger amongst British leaders. Rodney alleged that goods brought out on British convoys had then been sold, through St. Eustatius, to the rebels.[3] Following the outbreak of war between the Dutch Republic and Britain in December 1780, orders were sent from London to seize the island. The British were assisted by the fact that the news of the war's outbreak had not yet reached St. Eustatius
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At the time, St. Eustatius was home to a significant Jewish community, mainly merchants and a few plantation owners with strong connections to Holland. Within two days of the island being surrendered to the British, part of the Jewish community – together with Governor de Graaff, were forcibly deported, being given only 24 hours notice.[15] Rodney was particularly hard on the Jews. The harshness was reserved for the Jews alone as he did not do the same to French, Dutch, Spanish or American merchants on the island.[16] He even permitted the French to leave with all their possessions. Rodney was concerned that his unprecedented behavior would be repeated upon British islands by French forces when events were different. Rodney imprisoned all the adult Jewish males (101) in warehouses for days. He summarily deported all the heads of the Jewish families (31). He looted Jewish personal possessions, even stripping them to find money hidden in their clothing. When Rodney realized that the Jews might be hiding additional treasure, he dug up the Jewish cemetery. Later, Edmund Burke, upon learning of Rodney's actions, rose to condemn Rodney's anti-Semitic, avaricious vindictiveness in parliament. Rodney said, after he first encountered the Jews in February, 1781, "they (the Jews of St. Eustatius,) cannot too soon be taken care of - they are notorious in the cause of America and France."[17]

British control of St. Eustatius only lasted ten months, and Rodney's work to manage the prizes was in vain. Many of the goods he seized were captured on their way to Britain by a French squadron under Toussaint-Guillaume Picquet de la Motte. The island was captured by French forces in November 1781, who returned it to the Dutch in 1784. The Jews and other expelled merchants returned, commerce and trade resumed and the island's population reached its all-time high in 1790

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on July 03, 2015, 07:26:27 pm
Trump has got a lot of people talking, in my neighborhood most are liking what hes saying. 

 iamc2  that is refreshing.   
To be honest I think trump is arrogant: But he has shown already he has the Bollocks to confront the DC GOOFS!

The youth will embrace this man: Because he is speaking the truth and the GOOFS Hate him for this!

Trump has the Cash and the Ties to WIN!

...and We The People Need Someone New!

...and Decemberfellow; it is refreshing  to see someone with their OWN Cash...and not Blood Money from the Political Hacks!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 04, 2015, 05:23:52 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/04/jeb-bush-mitt-romney-join-marco-rubio-in-attacking-donald-trump-over-immigration-comments-a-severe-error/




JEB BUSH, MITT ROMNEY JOIN MARCO RUBIO IN ATTACKING DONALD TRUMP OVER IMMIGRATION COMMENTS: ‘A SEVERE ERROR
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 05, 2015, 09:53:13 am
Something Trump never talks about: was it a mob hit?

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/11/nyregion/copter-crash-kills-3-aides-of-trump.html
Copter Crash Kills 3 Aides Of Trump
By ROBERT HANLEY 
Published: October 11, 1989

Five people, including three high-level executives of Donald J. Trump's three casinos in Atlantic City, were killed yesterday when their helicopter crashed in pine woodlands on the Garden State Parkway near Forked River, N.J.

Moments before the helicopter plunged into the parkway's wooded median from 2,800 feet at 1:40 P.M., its main overhead four-blade rotor and its tail rotor broke off the body of the craft, the state police said.
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Among those killed were Stephen F. Hyde, 43 years old, chief executive of the Trump casinos; Mark Grossinger Etess, 38, president and chief operating officer of the Trump Taj Mahal casino hotel, and Jonathan Benanav, 33, executive vice president of the Trump Plaza casino hotel.

In a statement, Mr. Trump said: ''These were three fabulous young men in the prime of their lives. No better human beings ever existed. We are deeply saddened by this devastating tragedy, and our hearts go out to their families.''
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A witness camping in the pines near the crash site, Thomas Murray of East Providence, R.I., told The Associated Press that he heard a loud bang, ''like a piston rod going,'' and saw the main rotor stop spinning break off. ''It went straight down,'' he said.

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Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 05, 2015, 10:41:06 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/republicans/11718563/Republicans-cast-into-turmoil-as-Donald-Trump-rides-the-populist-surge.html
Republicans cast into turmoil as Donald Trump rides the populist surge
By  Philip Sherwell, New York
8:00AM BST 05 Jul 2015

...

“Wow, Huffington Post just stated that I am number one in the polls of Republican candidates,” the brash billionaire bragged as the week closed, citing the liberal media outlet that has been a platform for many of the strongest attacks on him. “Thank you, but the work has just begun!”


Mr Trump was touting his first place in an average of 105 polls. Of the 14 candidates who have declared, Trump topped the field with 13.6 per cent support to 13.3 per cent for Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor and son and brother of two past presidents.

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But the Republican hierarchy is not laughing as he rides an anti-establishment populist tide, shooting from the hip with his overheated rhetoric. They are concerned not because they think he has a chance of securing the nomination but because they fear he could influence the election by scarring the party’s reputation.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 05, 2015, 12:06:39 pm
TahoeBlue 
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They are concerned not because they think he has a chance of securing the nomination but because they fear he could influence the election by scarring the party’s reputation.

What reputation.. they suck,   (I wish he would run 3rd party) however that key worded phrase in the bold above, shows the true stance of those in now,  more concerned about how they look than about how screwed up the country is. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 05, 2015, 12:41:59 pm
we need Trump to wield Thor's hammer to shatter the Replican't party into an meaningful "gang" again
No "third" party!!!


(https://urbandud.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/detail-128-thors-hammer.jpg?w=550])
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on July 05, 2015, 01:35:22 pm
Macy's & Donald

Donald Trump's Macy's clothing line was removed by Macy's after 11 years.  Why?  Macy's doesn't agree with what Donald said:

"... we have too many illegal immigrants who are criminals..."
____________________________________________________________________________________
Trump on Illegal Immigrant Murdering San Francisco Woman: "Crime Is Raging And If You Talk About It, It's Racist"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/04/trump_on_illegal_immigrant_murdering_san_francisco_woman_crime_is_raging_and_if_you_talk_about_it_its_racist.html
__________________________________________________________________________________

First on CNN: Macy's dumps Donald Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/donald-trump-macys/

(CNN)Macy's is pulling Donald Trump brand merchandise from its stores after the Republican presidential candidate's recent controversial remarks created a public uproar.

The department store has come under intense pressure to cut ties with the real estate magnate and businessman after he referred to immigrants from Mexico and other countries "killers and rapists."

In a statement Wednesday morning, Macy's said the company "stands for diversity" and that it had no tolerance for discrimination.

"We are disappointed and distressed by recent remarks about immigrants from Mexico. We do not believe the disparaging characterizations portray an accurate picture of the many Mexicans, Mexican Americans and Latinos who have made so many valuable contributions to the success of our nation," Macy's said. "In light of statements made by Donald Trump, which are inconsistent with Macy's values, we have decided to discontinue our business relationship with Mr. Trump and will phase-out the Trump menswear collection, which has been sold at Macy's since 2004."...
_____________________________________________
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on July 05, 2015, 06:30:02 pm
I am glad that Trump continues to PISS OFF The GOOFS playing a game: Called: 'Politics!.

Trump is gaining the front runner Status; Because he is Telling the Truth: and the folks like it!  8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 05, 2015, 10:04:22 pm
we need Trump to wield Thor's hammer to shatter the Replican't party into an meaningful "gang" again
No "third" party!!!


(https://urbandud.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/detail-128-thors-hammer.jpg?w=550])

we need Trump to wield Thor's hammer to shatter the Replican't party into an meaningful "gang" again
No "third" party!!!

of course that would be sweet  but does anyone really believe that will happen? 3rd party can and could win if the supporters of said replican't party wake up and back one. Obvious the party has no balls for the truth.
 Very true statement above----They are concerned not because they think he has a chance of securing the nomination but because they fear he could influence the election by scarring the party’s reputation.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on July 06, 2015, 05:12:14 pm
 Trump is stirring the hornets nest of morons in the Re-dumb-u-can Party House---and they Hate him for it:

Look: the Fact is Trump is getting things going and the others are still at the starting gate:

My Bet: is Trump by a Mile, ahead of this field!
  ;)

...when has any Dummy from DC said ANYTHING that makes sense in an election?

...Answer: ' NONE: in my Lifetime."
  :P

..I will VOTE for TRUMP!  8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on July 06, 2015, 09:45:43 pm
   TRUMP is Still Telling OFF the Re-dumb-u-cans:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-just-released-an-epic-statement-raging-against-mexican-immigrants-and-disease/ar-AAcDgK9?ocid=ASUDHP

 Trump is going to bring the spot light on Illegal Criminals that come to America from the Southern Border.

The GOOFS in DC know it is true: But Want the Illegal VOTE from Criminals!

So Mr. Trump; tells the Mangled Media the Truth, and they all go Go-Go- for Folly!

 LOOK; most folks are looking for a Leader that OWES: No one: NOTHING!

Trump has the Bollocks to say what no one else will...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: lee51 on July 09, 2015, 12:19:19 pm
Very interesting information here:

https://www.facebook.com/personalliberty/photos/a.653434061366504.1073741825.199938786716036/957688504274390/?type=1&theater

For those who don't have a facebook account,  look at link below:

Personal Liberty

Some people are getting very nervous: Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few. There’s a reason for it. No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business and political elite understand that Trump is no joke. He could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart. It’s no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy The Donald. No, this is a coordinated conspiracy led by President Barack Obama himself. Obama himself is making the phone calls and giving the orders; he’s the ultimate intimidator who plays by the rules of Chicago thug politics.

http://personalliberty.com/heres-why-obama-and-hillary-must-stop-donald-trump-at-all-costs/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 09, 2015, 06:11:56 pm
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/247383-trump-leads-gop-presidential-field-in-new-national-poll


Trump leads GOP presidential field in new national poll


Trump was the preferred GOP nominee for president for 15 percent of respondents — 4 points ahead of former Gov. Jeb Bush (Fla.) and Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.), who were tied for second place.

Gov. Scott Walker (Wis.), Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and former Gov. Mike Huckabee (Ark.) shared the third spot with 9 percent each.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: One Revelator on July 09, 2015, 06:28:10 pm
Really, I'm thinking that teh Donald is just another Ross Perot if he manages to break through the political barriers. He hasn't been pre-approved to be prez.

Enjoy the show.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 12, 2015, 11:55:49 am
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/11/coulter-on-trump-the-people-want-him-to-be-president-absolutely-supporting-him/
by Ian Hanchett11 Jul 2015329
Coulter on Trump: ‘The People Want Him to be President’ ‘Absolutely’ Supporting Him

Columnist and author of “Adios, America” Ann Coulter declared of Donald Trump “The people want him to be president” and that she is “absolutely” supporting his campaign for president
on Friday’s “Alan Colmes Show” on Fox News Radio.

Coulter began by arguing that Republicans should increase their share of the vote among white voters because there’s no way a Republican candidate could get enough of the Hispanic vote to win. She said this wasn’t meant to dismiss any other group, but wondered why it wasn’t considered dismissive for the RNC to say the GOP has to “suck up to Hispanics.” She added that Republicans “act embarrassed to be getting white votes.”
...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: jerryweaver on July 12, 2015, 03:45:05 pm
Full Speech: Donald Trump Brings Down The House In Phoenix, AZ (7-11-15)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls3m7NUOqxs

Trump is attacking their wives, their haircuts, incomes, intelligence and clothes.

I guarantee you this is hurting their feelings more than principled Gentlemen Ron Paul did even though Ron won the debate on the issues.

Trump is taking a dump on their little think tanks & everything they are working for, exposing the RINO's and their Co-party for the idiots and shills they are.

If you get a chance, listen to him rile them, because he goes well out of the way to find the liberals' sacred cows and gore the hell out of them, in public.

And, the public loves it. It makes me wonder exactly how long they will take his mouth running off, before they do something untoward about it..
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Al Bundy on July 12, 2015, 03:47:56 pm
Full Speech: Donald Trump Brings Down The House In Phoenix, AZ (7-11-15)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls3m7NUOqxs

Trump is attacking their wives, their haircuts, incomes, intelligence and clothes.

I guarantee you this is hurting their feelings more than principled Gentlemen Ron Paul did even though Ron won the debate on the issues.

Trump is taking a dump on their little think tanks & everything they are working for, exposing the RINO's and their Co-party for the idiots and shills they are.

If you get a chance, listen to him rile them, because he goes well out of the way to find the liberals' sacred cows and gore the hell out of them, in public.

And, the public loves it. It makes me wonder exactly how long they will take his mouth running off, before they do something untoward about it..

But Trump promised friendship with Russian president Putin !  ::)

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1838045/trump-criticises-china-russia-policies-immigration-toohttp://
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: jerryweaver on July 12, 2015, 04:19:43 pm
But Trump promised friendship with Russian president Putin !  ::)

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1838045/trump-criticises-china-russia-policies-immigration-toohttp://

NeoCons are zionists.  whatever means necessary including imploding US and Nuclear War is on the table. 

We have no real beef with BRICS countries in my opinion.    Russia under Romanov  stood in the way of the NWO and were assasinated.

Trump probably has a opinion the  TPP  Anyone know what it is?  Illegal immigration is turning the States into a goof ball cultural joke.

The Immigration refuge problem is a world wide problem.

If  Trump does something about that we may have a candidate.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: jerryweaver on July 12, 2015, 04:59:23 pm
Trump talks on Hillary, Russia and China.   He's saying the obvious.  Picking the low hanging fruit .  Listen for a few minutes.

https://youtu.be/ls3m7NUOqxs?t=40m19s
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: jerryweaver on July 12, 2015, 09:59:41 pm
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http://comicallyincorrect.com/2015/07/08/donald-trump/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 14, 2015, 11:58:14 am
entrepreneurs ... The Apprentice!
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/29532608/trump-pinatas-go-on-sale-in-mexico
Trump pinatas go on sale in Mexico
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Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: lee51 on July 15, 2015, 08:59:35 am
Is Donald Trump the GOP’s savior or sellout?


I so want to take Donald Trump’s word on making things right in America, on illegal immigration and on his criticisms of Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton. But the truth is she and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, had first-pew seats at The Donald’s third wedding in 2005 — and why not? It’s a match made in heaven — not for The Donald and his wife, Slovenian former model Melania Knauss-Trump, but between The Donald and Hillary. After all he is a New York billionaire who loves to build his wealth and influence in New York, and she was an ambitious New York senator who loved having rich donors in high places.

Let’s face it; The Donald and Hillary are members of the 1 percent club, otherwise known as the ultra-rich, the wealthy elite or America’s oligarchy. Their interests coincide much more closely with each other than with Americans like us. For all anyone knows, they may work for the same bosses: that Goliath known as the New World Order.

More at the link below:

http://personalliberty.com/is-donald-trump-the-gops-savior-or-sellout/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: One Revelator on July 15, 2015, 03:35:40 pm

Just to highlight and add to jerryweaver's post from the other thread. I thought “Perot” earlier. Glad to see others are thinking the same thing.

I thought his mannerisms to be a tad heebee in that speech in Phoenix az.  Zionists Use Donald Trump to Fix Another Election

July 15, 2015

(http://www.henrymakow.com/trump.jpg)
Donald Trump makes the Masonic
descendent triangle sign in this early photo.



Donald Trump is an Illuminati agent tasked with getting Hillary Clinton elected.

- See more at: http://henrymakow.com/#sthash.Qbt6n9uB.dpuf

More from the article:

FOLLOW THE MONEY

We can thank Brother Nathaniel in 2011 for alerting us to the hokey nature of the
Trump campaign and the fact that his David Axelrod (aka "handler") is another Illuminati Jew by the name of Michael Cohen.  He is a Trump advisor again in 2015 saying Trump speaks for the "silent majority."

Cohen supported Obama in 2008, but has "grown disappointed with the president, so much so that he now describes himself as 'offended' by the administration's agenda. America, Cohen said, has become a "third-world nation," echoing words that have become a familiar refrain of Trump's.

Michael joined The Trump Organization in 2006 following a career as a private attorney and "personal advisor to some of the world's wealthiest individuals." 

Last summer, Cohen rented a Hampton's mansion for one month for $150,000 without even looking at it. He sued the owner for $500,000 because it was in disrepair. 

Another Trump backer is Steward Rehr, an Illuminati Jewish billionaire, who made his fortune as a pharmaceutical distributor. He is the 183rd richest man in America (139 of the top 400 are Jewish) and one of the 400th richest men in the world.  (Trump isn't in the top 400.)  

If Americans think Trump and his backers are going to change anything, I have some real estate in Florida .... His role is to take a fall. 

Politics is a charade put on by the Illuminati. Their mass media puts lipstick on this pig.

We don't realize how we are totally manipulated. Our political, economic and cultural lives are psy ops.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 20, 2015, 09:42:38 am
McCain is no "truth'r" he's more of a hide the truth'er

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/19/donald-trump-on-john-mccain-flap-veterans-who-dont-get-captured-get-no-credit/
Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump doubled down Sunday on comments he made about Arizona Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
 earlier this weekend, in which he said McCain was a war hero simply because “he was captured.”

“I’m very disappointed in Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) because the vets are horribly treated in this country,” Trump told ABC This Week‘s Marta Raddatz on Sunday. “I’m fighting for the vets, I’ve done a lot for the vets.”
,...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BtWzjNLGkA
John McCain's past that he doesnt want you to know 2/2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5721449
Apr 2, 2008 - McCain was subjected to 5 ½ years of Soviet driven “brain perversion techniques.”


http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/
McCain and the POW Cover-Up
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
By Sydney Schanberg • July 1, 2010

John McCain, who has risen to political prominence on his image as a Vietnam POW war hero, has, inexplicably, worked very hard to hide from the public stunning information about American prisoners in Vietnam who, unlike him, didn’t return home. Throughout his Senate career, McCain has quietly sponsored and pushed into federal law a set of prohibitions that keep the most revealing information about these men buried as classified documents. Thus the war hero who people would logically imagine as a determined crusader for the interests of POWs and their families became instead the strange champion of hiding the evidence and closing the books.

Almost as striking is the manner in which the mainstream press has shied from reporting the POW story and McCain’s role in it, even as the Republican Party has made McCain’s military service the focus of his presidential campaign. Reporters who had covered the Vietnam War turned their heads and walked in other directions. McCain doesn’t talk about the missing men, and the press never asks him about them.

The sum of the secrets McCain has sought to hide is not small. There exists a telling mass of official documents, radio intercepts, witness depositions, satellite photos of rescue symbols that pilots were trained to use, electronic messages from the ground containing the individual code numbers given to airmen, a rescue mission by a special forces unit that was aborted twice by Washington—and even sworn testimony by two Defense secretaries that “men were left behind.” This imposing body of evidence suggests that a large number—the documents indicate probably hundreds—of the U.S. prisoners held by Vietnam were not returned when the peace treaty was signed in January 1973 and Hanoi released 591 men, among them Navy combat pilot John S. McCain

...
Included in the evidence that McCain and his government allies suppressed or sought to discredit is a transcript of a senior North Vietnamese general’s briefing of the Hanoi politburo, discovered in Soviet archives by an American scholar in 1993. The briefing took place only four months before the 1973 peace accords. The general, Tran Van Quang, told the politburo members that Hanoi was holding 1,205 American prisoners but would keep many of them at war’s end as leverage to ensure getting war reparations from Washington.
...

McCain’s Role

An early and critical McCain secrecy move involved 1990 legislation that started in the House of Representatives. A brief and simple document, it was called “the Truth Bill” and would have compelled complete transparency about prisoners and missing men. Its core sentence reads: “[The] head of each department or agency which holds or receives any records and information, including live-sighting reports, which have been correlated or possibly correlated to United States personnel listed as prisoner of war or missing in action from World War II, the Korean conflict and the Vietnam conflict, shall make available to the public all such records held or received by that department or agency.”

/....

Some of McCain’s fellow captives at Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi didn’t share his views about prisoners left behind. Before he died of leukemia in 1999, retired Col. Ted Guy, a highly admired POW and one of the most dogged resisters in the camps, wrote an angry open letter to the senator in an MIA newsletter—a response to McCain’s stream of insults hurled at MIA activists. Guy wrote, “John, does this [the insults] include Senator Bob Smith [a New Hampshire Republican and activist on POW issues] and other concerned elected officials? Does this include the families of the missing where there is overwhelming evidence that their loved ones were ‘last known alive’? Does this include some of your fellow POWs?”

It’s not clear whether the taped confession McCain gave to his captors to avoid further torture has played a role in his postwar behavior in the Senate. That confession was played endlessly over the prison loudspeaker system at Hoa Lo—to try to break down other prisoners—and was broadcast over Hanoi’s state radio. Reportedly, he confessed to being a war criminal who had bombed civilian targets. The Pentagon has a copy of the confession but will not release it. Also, no outsider I know of has ever seen a non-redacted copy of the debriefing of McCain when he returned from captivity, which is classified but could be made public by McCain.
...





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire
The 1967 USS Forrestal fire was a devastating fire and series of chain-reaction explosions on 29 July 1967 that killed 134 sailors and injured 161 on the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal (CVA-59), after an electrical anomaly discharged a Zuni rocket on the flight deck. Forrestal was engaged in combat operations in the Gulf of Tonkin during the Vietnam War at the time, and the damage exceeded US$72 million (equivalent to $504 million today) not including damage to aircraft.[2][3] Future United States Senator John McCain was among the survivors.
...

At about 10:50 (local time) on 29 July, while preparations for the second strike of the day were being made, an unguided 5.0 in (127.0 mm) Mk-32 "Zuni" rocket, one of four contained in a LAU-10 underwing rocket pod mounted on an F-4B Phantom II, was accidentally fired due to an electrical power surge during the switch from external power to internal power. The surge originated from the fact that high winds had blown free the safety pin, which would have prevented the fail surge, as well as a decision to plug in the "pigtail" system early to increase the number of takeoffs from the carrier (see below).

The rocket flew across the flight deck, striking a wing-mounted external fuel tank on an A-4E Skyhawk awaiting launch,[1] aircraft No. 405, piloted by Lieutenant Commander Fred D. White.[2][10] The Zuni Rocket's warhead safety mechanism prevented it from detonating, but the impact tore the tank off the wing and ignited the resulting spray of escaping JP-5 fuel, causing an instantaneous conflagration. Within seconds, other external fuel tanks on White's aircraft overheated and ruptured, releasing more jet fuel to feed the flames, which began spreading along the flight deck.

The impact of the Zuni had also dislodged two of the 1000-lb AN-M65 bombs, which fell to the deck and lay in the pool of burning fuel between White and McCain's aircraft. Damage Control Team #8 swung into action immediately, and Chief Gerald Farrier, recognizing the risk and without benefit of protective clothing, immediately smothered the bombs with a PKP fire extinguisher in an effort to knock down the fuel fire long enough to allow the pilots to escape. The pilots, still strapped into their aircraft, were immediately aware that a disaster was unfolding, but only some were able to escape in time. Lieutenant Commander John McCain, pilot of A-4 Skyhawk side No. 416 next to White's was among the first to notice the flames and escaped by scrambling down the nose of his A-4 and jumping off the refueling probe shortly before the explosions began.

Damage Control Team #8 had been assured of a 10 minute window in which to extinguish the fire and prevent the bombs from detonating, but the Composition B bombs proved to be just as unstable as the ordnance crews had initially feared; after only slightly more than 1 minute, despite Chief Farrier's constant efforts to cool the bombs, the casing of one suddenly split open and began to glow cherry red. The chief, recognizing a lethal cook-off was imminent, shouted for his team to withdraw, but the bomb detonated seconds later – a mere one minute and 36 seconds after the start of the fire.[11]

The detonation destroyed White and McCain's aircraft (along with their remaining fuel and armament), blew a crater in the armored flight deck, and sprayed the deck and crew with bomb fragments and burning fuel. Damage Control Team #8 took the brunt of the initial blast; Chief Farrier and all his men except three were killed instantly, with the survivors being critically injured. Lieutenant Commander White had managed to escape his burning aircraft but was unable to get far enough away in time; he was killed along with the firefighters in the first bomb explosion. In the tightly packed formation on the deck, the two nearest A-4s to White and McCain's (both fully fueled and bomb-laden) were heavily damaged and began to burn, causing the fire to spread and more bombs to quickly cook off.

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http://thehollytree.blogspot.com/2008/09/john-mccains-suicide-attempt-and-his.html
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The first display of bonding occurred when Col. Bui Tin, a former senior colonel in the North Vietnamese Army who had actually interrogated McCain and other U.S. prisoners, testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs.
During a break in the hearing, McCain moved to where Col. Bui Tin was seated. Instead of grabbing Bui Tin by the neck and demanding his arrest for war crimes against U.S. POWs, McCain reached out and warmly hugged his former interrogator as if he were a long lost brother. Never mind that at least 55 American POW were murdered by interrogators and guards while in North Vietnamese prisoner of war camps.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CazKanlYDg
John McCain Losing His Cool

Uploaded on Feb 2, 2008 


Find Out the Truth About John McCain http://www.powmusicinc.com.

Mean spirited McCain is known for throwing temper tantrums, flying off the handle, blowing his top,seething with anger, accusing others of lying, and of mistreating POW/MIA family members. So how will he treat U.S.? POW/MIA families report...You decide

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/
McCain and the POW Cover-Up
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.

By Sydney Schanberg • July 1, 2010
...

The sum of the secrets McCain has sought to hide is not small. There exists a telling mass of official documents, radio intercepts, witness depositions, satellite photos of rescue symbols that pilots were trained to use, electronic messages from the ground containing the individual code numbers given to airmen, a rescue mission by a special forces unit that was aborted twice by Washington—and even sworn testimony by two Defense secretaries that “men were left behind.” This imposing body of evidence suggests that a large number—the documents indicate probably hundreds—of the U.S. prisoners held by Vietnam were not returned when the peace treaty was signed in January 1973 and Hanoi released 591 men, among them Navy combat pilot John S. McCain.

Mass of Evidence

The Pentagon had been withholding significant information from POW families for years. What’s more, the Pentagon’s POW/MIA operation had been publicly shamed by internal whistleblowers and POW families for holding back documents as part of a policy of “debunking” POW intelligence even when the information was obviously credible.

The pressure from the families and Vietnam veterans finally forced the creation, in late 1991, of a Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. The chairman was John Kerry. McCain, as a former POW, was its most pivotal member. In the end, the committee became part of the debunking machine.

One of the sharpest critics of the Pentagon’s performance was an insider, Air Force Lt. Gen. Eugene Tighe, who headed the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) during the 1970s. He openly challenged the Pentagon’s position that no live prisoners existed, saying that the evidence proved otherwise. McCain was a bitter opponent of Tighe, who was eventually pushed into retirement.

Included in the evidence that McCain and his government allies suppressed or sought to discredit is a transcript of a senior North Vietnamese general’s briefing of the Hanoi politburo, discovered in Soviet archives by an American scholar in 1993. The briefing took place only four months before the 1973 peace accords. The general, Tran Van Quang, told the politburo members that Hanoi was holding 1,205 American prisoners but would keep many of them at war’s end as leverage to ensure getting war reparations from Washington.


see also:
http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm
The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides
Former POW Fights Public Access to POW/MIA Files

By Sydney Schanberg
...
Knowledgeable observers note that it’s quite possible that Nixon, leading the country’s withdrawal, accepted the peace treaty of Jan. 27, 1973, while telling himself that somehow he would negotiate the release of the remaining POWs later. But when Congress refused to provide the $3 billion to $4 billion in proposed national development reparations that National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger had dangled as a carrot to Hanoi , the prospects for the abandoned men began to unravel.

 Observers also point out that over the years that followed, Washington continued to reject paying what it branded as ransom money and so, across six presidencies, including the present one, the issue of POWs who may have been left behind remained unacknowledged by the White House and the Pentagon. Hanoi refused to correct the impression that all the prisoners had been returned, and Washington, for its part, refused to admit that it had known about abandoned POWs from the beginning.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfyGdG9llSE
Uploaded on May 8, 2008 
Col. Bud Day, POW cellmate of Sen. John McCain in Vietnam, speaks out on the character and heroism of the man who must be elected the next President of the United States.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZv4aU998ik
Uploaded on Aug 2, 2008 
John McCain actions in Vietnam has caused the deaths of many US soldiers. He is the Songbird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm-IkMW-lDg
Uploaded on Jun 23, 2008 
John McCain's torturer feels McCain would be the best President.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnlQpKdNjWU
John Mccain Exposed By Vietnam Vets And Pow's

Uploaded on Jul 2, 2008 


John McCain will do or say anything to become President. Discover the truth.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohn...
http://www.usvetdsp.com/sampbio.htm
http://www.gopteaparty.com/
http://nowaymccain.com/

We were set up by our own.... another Mc - McCain

http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm
John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
December 1992 Issue

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WARM HUG FOR THE ENEMY

November of 1991, when Tracy Usry, the former chief investigator of the Minority Staff of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, testified before the Select Committee, he revealed that the Soviets interrogated U.S. prisoners of war in Vietnam. Sen. McCain became outraged interrupting Usry several times, arguing that "none of the returned U.S. prisoners of war released by Vietnam were ever interrogated by the Soviets." However, this was simply not true and Sen. McCain knows that from firsthand experience.

Col. Bui Tin, a former Senior Colonel in the North Vietnamese Army, testified on the same day, but after Usry, that because of his high position in the Communist Party during the war, he had the authority to "read all documents and secret telegrams from the politburo" pertaining to American prisoners of war. He said that not only did the Soviets interrogate some American prisoners of war, but that they treated the Americans very badly.

Bui Tin, who indicated he favored a normalization of relations between the U.S. and Vietnam, also offered the committee his records concerning his personal interrogations of American POWs.

Sen. McCain stunned onlookers at the hearing when he moved forward to the witness table and warmly embraced Bui Tin as if he was a long, lost brother.

In any case, many of McCain's fellow Vietnam War POWs were aghast, not to mention former POWs of World War II and Korea, who could, only in some instances after decades, forgive but never forget the inhumanity of their captors--certainly not to the point of embracing them.

Shortly thereafter, as a direct result of Sen. McCain's lobbying of other Republican Senators, Usry, a distinguished Vietnam veteran, and all other members of the Minority Staff, who had participated in the POW/MIA investigations, were abruptly fired.

If the Senate Select Committee finds it pertinent to investigate alleged instances of "fraud" by POW/MIA activists, then certainly, by even the most liberal standards, the charge of collaboration with the enemy by a "high-ranking naval" officer should be investigated just as seriously as were the charges against Marine Private Robert Garwood, the only American POW charged and convicted of this crime.

THE ADMIRAL'S SON

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone on August 29, 1936. His father was Admiral John McCain II, who became commander-in-chief of the Pacific forces in 1968. Admiral McCain later ordered the bombing of Hanoi while his son was in prison. His grandfather was Admiral John S. McCain, Sr., the famous commander of aircraft carriers in the Pacific under Admiral William F. Halsey in World War II
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 20, 2015, 12:12:59 pm
Quote
Donald Trump is an Illuminati agent tasked with getting Hillary Clinton elected.

They must be really worried if getting him makes her.
Although it could be, but as Hilliary said before "at this point what does it matter."
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: One Revelator on July 20, 2015, 12:52:14 pm
They must be really worried if getting him makes her.
Although it could be, but as Hilliary said before "at this point what does it matter."

The elite aren't worried at all about the (s)election. That was cinched up years ago. They're bothering with Trump for the sake of those that still believe in the illusion. He serves to keep the public calm at this time – before the shock. Political entertainment. They do not want civil unrest and riots.

Obviously, because of Trump's statements, they know what we think and really don't care. Their agenda comes first. And if the USA needs to plummet into third world status, then that's the way it's going to be. They don't need polls. Every move that they have made successfully in other countries is being rolled out here.....on steroids.

Money still makes things happen. It's the elite's primary tool in the world-wide cult of the shiny rocks. Note that Cohen and Rahr are advisers/backers. Rahr has much more money than Trump. So who is following whom?
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 21, 2015, 12:10:33 pm
wow ... help for vets : go Trump ! go ....

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/21/donald-trump-launches-hotline-for-veterans-calls-for-american-flag-to-be-at-half-mast-for-tennessee-shooting-victims/
Donald Trump Launches Hotline for Veterans, Calls for American Flag to be at Half-Staff for Tennessee Shooting Victims

...
Second, Trump is establishing a hotline and email address for veterans to share their stories on how the Veterans Administration should be reformed. He pledges that if elected president he will take care of the veteran complaints “very quickly and efficiently like a world-class businessman can do, but a politician has no clue.”

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Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on July 21, 2015, 02:30:40 pm
 Trump is at least 10 Points ahead of all the Re-Dumb-ya-Cans!

...even the Vets want Trump!

...WHY?

...cause he speaks the Truth that NO Politician can touch!

...because Wash. DC is tainted by evil...and ALL Americans understand this: and that is WHY; I WILL VOTE for TRUMP!!!

...OH; ps. the mangled media could not derail Trump when he slammed Mc-Pain!

...HA! HA! I think it is grand; that a man has finally stood up to the little MORONS in the Fake Gov.!  ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 22, 2015, 09:56:14 am
Runnin for the border ... yeahaa

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/21/exclusive-details-donald-trump-heading-to-texas-border/
EXCLUSIVE DETAILS: Donald Trump Heading to Texas Border
by Bob Price 21 Jul 2015

Breitbart Texas has learned that 2016 Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump is heading to the Texas-Mexico border to get a firsthand look at the current border security situation. Trump is expected to meet with Border Patrol agents of the Laredo Sector.
...

| - - -- -

related: Perry the Texas Gov.
 
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/07/22/trump-rick-perry-put-on-glasses-so-people-think-hes-smart/
Trump: Rick Perry ‘Put On Glasses So People Think He’s Smart’

July 22, 2015 7:33 AM

,...
The real estate developer also went after others who have criticized him in recent weeks, implying that former Texas Gov. Rick Perry was unintelligent and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush weak.

“I’m not a fan of Jeb Bush. Because Jeb Bush is in favor of Common Core, and he’s weak on immigration. Those are two bad things,” Trump said.

Trump even took a shot at former Texas Gov. Rick Perry for wearing glasses.
“He put on glasses so people think he’s smart. People can see through the glasses,” Trump said.

McCain sparked Trump’s temper last week when the senator said the businessman’s inflammatory remarks about Mexican immigrants had brought out the “crazies.” McCain said Tuesday he would no longer respond to Trump’s comments.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 23, 2015, 10:04:27 am
a shoe drops ...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/23/trump-threatens-third-party-run/
Trump Threatens Third-Party Run
by Breitbart News 23 Jul 2015

From  Kevin Cirilli and Bob Cusac writing at The Hill:

Donald Trump says the chances that he will launch a third-party White House run will “absolutely” increase if the Republican National Committee is unfair to him during the 2016 primary season.

The RNC has not been supportive. They were always supportive when I was a contributor. I was their fair-haired boy,” the business mogul told The Hill in a 40-minute interview from his Manhattan office at Trump Tower on Wednesday. “The RNC has been, I think, very foolish.”

...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 23, 2015, 07:48:00 pm
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Trump Threatens Third-Party Run
(actually the new 2nd party)

YES  Best news yet..... Make it so Mr Trump,  may be hope for America after all.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 25, 2015, 10:09:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gdRv5q1iww


Donald Trump FULL Speech in Iowa Campaign Rally - July 25, 2015
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 25, 2015, 10:13:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZQRtR67F9E

  youtube

  We're not going to take it anymore!!!!!

Dee Snider and The Trump Family sing on stage together!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 25, 2015, 10:18:41 pm
a shoe drops ...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/23/trump-threatens-third-party-run/
Trump Threatens Third-Party Run
by Breitbart News 23 Jul 2015

From  Kevin Cirilli and Bob Cusac writing at The Hill:

Donald Trump says the chances that he will launch a third-party White House run will “absolutely” increase if the Republican National Committee is unfair to him during the 2016 primary season.

The RNC has not been supportive. They were always supportive when I was a contributor. I was their fair-haired boy,” the business mogul told The Hill in a 40-minute interview from his Manhattan office at Trump Tower on Wednesday. “The RNC has been, I think, very foolish.”

...


  He's not going 3rd party.

  He could win the nomination without going 3rd party.

  If he does go 3rd party, then we know he is rigging the election so that Hillary could win---if she beats Bernie.

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Letsbereal on July 26, 2015, 12:23:58 am
Trump & The Political Risk Of A 3rd Party In 2016
25 July 2015
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-25/trump-political-risk-3rd-party-2016
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 26, 2015, 05:18:56 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/26/polls-donald-trump-way-out-in-front-ted-cruz-surges-underneath-marco-rubio-keeps-sinking/


POLLS: DONALD TRUMP WAY OUT IN FRONT; TED CRUZ SURGES UNDERNEATH, MARCO RUBIO KEEPS SINKING

Call it failure to launch for Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
as, despite a minor bump in the polls a month or so after his April presidential campaign launch, the 44-year-old junior senator from Florida is now officially relegated to the middle of the pack—where he’s been unable to climb out.

Virtually every major pollster has shown Rubio’s chances at being a serious contender for the GOP nomination slipping away in recent months, and the new CNN-ORC International poll is no different.

Rubio was supposed to be the golden boy who could woo the donor class but still excite the grassroots. He’s succeeded in winning over lots of big-money backing, with billionaire donors like Oracle’s Larry Ellison, casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, Miami-area auto dealer Norman Braman, and more behind him. But he’s failed so far to gain traction among the voting class—the people a candidate needs to win over to win elections since politicians, as much as they might want to, can’t buy electoral victory.

While Rubio’s funk continues, real estate magnate billionaire Donald Trump remains at the top of the Republican pack with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker nipping at his heels. At the same time, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
 is surging past Rubio underneath Trump, Bush and Walker, pulling close to the top tier of candidates.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Letsbereal on July 29, 2015, 12:09:43 am
Could Trump Win?
28 July 2015
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-28/could-trump-win

Trump Is "The Best Thing To Happen To Politics In A Long Time," Mark Cuban Says
28 July 2015
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-28/trump-best-thing-happen-politics-long-time-mark-cuban-says
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on July 29, 2015, 02:46:38 am
Could Trump Win?
28 July 2015
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-28/could-trump-win

Trump Is "The Best Thing To Happen To Politics In A Long Time," Mark Cuban Says
28 July 2015
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-28/trump-best-thing-happen-politics-long-time-mark-cuban-says
sure Trump could WIN: if folks get up off their arses: and VOTE for him!

in my opinion; Trump is the only Candidate with the GUTS to stir the Washington Hornet Nest!

love or hate him---he is still in the lead!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on July 29, 2015, 06:29:53 am


… a presidential steam roller
or a loose cannon?


‘The Donald Trump Show’
Posted on July 29, 2015 by Ben Crystal

Flash back to the early 1980s, when Trump first burst on the scene by acting like he had just invented the real estate business in midtown Manhattan. Imagine if someone told you that about 30 years hence, the guy with the dead animal on his head who keeps bolting his name to everything in the city will be within Ohio’s Electoral College votes of the Oval Office. Furthermore, the only person who could stop him was, at that moment, the first lady of Arkansas.

You would tell the guy to check his meds. In those days, the idea of “The Donald” being a serious contender for the presidency would have been as far-fetched as the idea that the overweight “Rev.” Al Sharpton would go from getting punched out on the “Morton Downey Jr. Show” to becoming one of the closest advisers to the president of the United States. If someone had tried telling me that, I would have told them they might as well give the job to some jug-eared, Urkel-esque stoner who managed to escape law school without doing any homework.

And yet, there he is. According to the most recent polls, Trump leads the Republican field by an average of 5 points. While Clinton’s campaign is wheezing like her husband trying to explain why Ashley Madison came up on the Clinton Foundation’s credit card statement, Trump is accelerating like a freight train, albeit one that might be slightly out of control.

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It strikes me that the eight years of Clinton’s debauchery and the eight years of Obama’s house party are things upon which we should be aiming to improve by more than just simple party affiliation and basic understanding of border security. At the very least, Trump’s six-figure donations to “causes” like The Clinton Global Money Trough Foundation deserve some extra scrutiny.

~> CONTINUE:  http://personalliberty.com/the-donald-trump-show/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 29, 2015, 10:53:25 am
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/242088-trump-gave-at-least-100k-to-clinton-foundation
May 14, 2015, 01:26 pm
Trump gave at least $100K to Clinton Foundation
Mark Hensch

New York real estate mogul Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka have donated a combined total of at least $105,000 to the Clinton Foundation, records show.

“Donald J. Trump” is listed on the foundation’s website as giving between $100,000 and $250,000 to the charitable organization.

“Ivanka Trump,” meanwhile, is listed as a donor who gifted between $5,001 and $10,000 to the nonprofit.

“This list is comprised of those who made contributions or grants to advance the work of any part of the Clinton Foundation, including the Clinton Global Initiative, and indicates cumulative lifetime giving through 2014,” the website said.
The website does not specify when the Trumps donated, nor the exact amount of their contributions.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 29, 2015, 12:35:36 pm
Now that he is running she won't be getting that again,  maybe just maybe we can forget what was and hope for what may be. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 31, 2015, 12:04:32 am

… a presidential steam roller
or a loose cannon?


‘The Donald Trump Show’
Posted on July 29, 2015 by Ben Crystal

Flash back to the early 1980s, when Trump first burst on the scene by acting like he had just invented the real estate business in midtown Manhattan. Imagine if someone told you that about 30 years hence, the guy with the dead animal on his head who keeps bolting his name to everything in the city will be within Ohio’s Electoral College votes of the Oval Office. Furthermore, the only person who could stop him was, at that moment, the first lady of Arkansas.

You would tell the guy to check his meds. In those days, the idea of “The Donald” being a serious contender for the presidency would have been as far-fetched as the idea that the overweight “Rev.” Al Sharpton would go from getting punched out on the “Morton Downey Jr. Show” to becoming one of the closest advisers to the president of the United States. If someone had tried telling me that, I would have told them they might as well give the job to some jug-eared, Urkel-esque stoner who managed to escape law school without doing any homework.

And yet, there he is. According to the most recent polls, Trump leads the Republican field by an average of 5 points. While Clinton’s campaign is wheezing like her husband trying to explain why Ashley Madison came up on the Clinton Foundation’s credit card statement, Trump is accelerating like a freight train, albeit one that might be slightly out of control.

~> CONTINUE:  http://personalliberty.com/the-donald-trump-show/

  I think he is going to STEAMROLL THE REST OF THEM.

  Just heard Jeff Rense and Frosty Woolridge talk positively about him.  Rense paraphrasing...He's not perfect but we need to get behind him because he is not part of the false left right paradigm. 

  The only thing that will stop him is an assassination which I would not bet against with the Bushes, Clintons, Obama and their handlers lurking in the shadows.

  You know my position.  We must seal the borders.  I have had 2 relatives killed by the illegals.  One of my sons also mentioned that a girl he had dated was carved up by an illegal---her and her cousin---100s of stab wounds.  IF WE DON'T FIX THE BORDERS, AMERICA IS OVER.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 31, 2015, 12:25:26 am
^^^^^an assassination?  Yeah that crossed my mind a while back, don't think so now cause it would seem kinda obvious.  Now a plane crash or something of the like yeah could if it involved more then him.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 31, 2015, 08:35:26 am


  TPTB would do anything to get rid of him.  Trump is upsetting their schemes.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 31, 2015, 08:56:57 am
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/12/time-to-get-tough-trumps-blockbuster-policy-manifesto/

TIME TO GET TOUGH: TRUMP’S BLOCKBUSTER POLICY MANIFESTO


The Washington Establishment’s increasing angst and opposition to billionaire real estate mogul Donald Trump’s presidential candidacy is predicated on the notion that his highly-quotable catchphrases—“Take the oil!” or “Build a wall!”—lack substantive policy prescriptions to back them up. In short, the RINO caucus’ knock on Trump is that his solutions are unserious, unmeasured, quixotic.

Yet if the chattering class fears Trump’s recent surge in the polls, they will go into panic-filled paroxysms when they read Trump’s smart and serious bestseller, Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again.

Among Trump’s many bestselling, anecdote-filled books, Time to Get Tough (originally published in 2011) stands out as his most penetrating, serious, and detailed enunciation of his political philosophy and policy views. Trump says it’s the “best book I’ve ever written” and is “better than The Art of the Deal.” Trump added, “It’s the hardest I’ve ever worked on a book. And it’s the most thought I’ve ever put into a book.”

It’s easy to see why. Backed up with nearly 250 endnotes, citing everything from Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports to Sherman Antitrust Act amendments to the Theory of Moral Sentiments, Trump’s book clearly lays out serious policy solutions to vexing U.S. problems. Welfare reform, cyberwarfare, energy, illegal immigration and crime, taxes, healthcare, national defense—you name it, Trump offers his plans, often including specific bills and amendments. Best of all, Trump does it all in his refreshingly blunt and authentic voice—the very voice now resonating with a citizenry fed up with the Political Class and its conceits.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 31, 2015, 08:58:57 am
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/insiders-warn-jeb-dont-engage-with-trump-120845.html


Insiders warn Jeb: Don't engage with Trump
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on July 31, 2015, 09:31:32 am
^^^^^
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Insiders warn Jeb: Don't engage with Trump

after reading the link,  I think tpt wanna b  are underestimating Mr. Trump. Who don't forget is  a businessman first,  I am sure he has engaged or not engaged many before and came out on top.  The reason they are concerned is just that above, they OWN  bush, clinton,,  or any of the other puppet politicians that are running, and as some in here say his running is to sway the votes from paul or whomever,  It may of started that way, but Trumps business background, money
 and ego drives him beyond their  "control". He is no politician but he sounds very much like a patriot, and thus gaining trust with the sheep.  Just my opinion, and as soon as the PARTY dumps him  which I hope they do,  the voters will follow and Mr Trump will  emerge as the country finally gets the 2nd* party to the top.

.* everyone should know the present 2 party system is the same.
     I like him but will not vote for anyone associated with the d or r behind their name including him.   I am tired of the puppet government.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 01, 2015, 08:05:26 pm
^^^^^
after reading the link,  I think tpt wanna b  are underestimating Mr. Trump. Who don't forget is  a businessman first,  I am sure he has engaged or not engaged many before and came out on top.  The reason they are concerned is just that above, they OWN  bush, clinton,,  or any of the other puppet politicians that are running, and as some in here say his running is to sway the votes from paul or whomever,  It may of started that way, but Trumps business background, money
 and ego drives him beyond their  "control". He is no politician but he sounds very much like a patriot, and thus gaining trust with the sheep.  Just my opinion, and as soon as the PARTY dumps him  which I hope they do,  the voters will follow and Mr Trump will  emerge as the country finally gets the 2nd* party to the top.

.* everyone should know the present 2 party system is the same.
     I like him but will not vote for anyone associated with the d or r behind their name including him.   I am tired of the puppet government.
AMEN Brother: same sentiment  8)...and I believe Trump will Beat the Crap out of the Re-dumb-ya-Cans in the upcoming Debates!

I see the whole Nation looking at this man, for President: because most Americans are sick & fed up with ANYONE from DC!

...so I see most folks voting for Trump! ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 02, 2015, 05:57:58 pm


… interesting … the DONALD on Larry King,
back in `88, talking politics of the day.
   :o

Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Sasha on August 05, 2015, 09:25:35 pm
Donald Trump talked politics with Bill Clinton weeks before launching 2016 bid (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html)
Robert Costa and Anne Gearan - August 5

Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.

Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.

Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat.

continues...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 05, 2015, 09:33:24 pm
Donald Trump talked politics with Bill Clinton weeks before launching 2016 bid (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html)
Robert Costa and Anne Gearan - August 5

Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.

Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.

Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat.

continues...

  I saw this on the news today.  The pundits at CNN said that the Republican contenders were going to make a big deal out of this HOWEVER THE THING THEY SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT IS HOW CLOSE THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS ARE.  Looks like the Donald is going to make Jeb a NON-FACTOR.  THE OTHERS ARE LIKE CHIWAWAS BITING AT TRUMPS ANKLES.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Sasha on August 05, 2015, 11:06:12 pm
  I saw this on the news today.  The pundits at CNN said that the Republican contenders were going to make a big deal out of this HOWEVER THE THING THEY SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT IS HOW CLOSE THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS ARE.  Looks like the Donald is going to make Jeb a NON-FACTOR.  THE OTHERS ARE LIKE CHIWAWAS BITING AT TRUMPS ANKLES.

Can't ignor the timing of this too: hours before the FBI announces an indictment against Jesse Benton and crew, sandbagging Rand with an investigation that had been pending for years.  Is the establishment firing the Donald now, the stalking horse's purposes served? And like a Judas goat, did he draw the anti-establishment populism with him into the firing? 

But, will this stop him?  Maybe he goes rogue against whatever deal was implied.  Maybe he's doing better than he or Clinton ever imagined and now he's got other ideas.

The other POTUS jockeys should be looking at the Bush-Clinton-Barry-Seal, Zapata Oil stuff, as you say. 

And it's true, Jeb's becoming a non-factor.  Trump hasn't had to do much to Jeb to help him into non-factor status either.  Jeb is one of the least motivating speakers in the POTUS race right now.  The legacied prince neither says enough well enough to raise one's spirits nor enough poorly enough to raise one's ire - droll Neo-Con, PNAC sales pitcher.

Add FOX to the carnival, playing the role of the RNC with polls propping up their preferences, and the big top's all here.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 07, 2015, 09:43:24 am


… from BLOOMBERG:


Fox News Couldn't Kill Trump’s Momentum
and May Have Only Made It Stronger

Joshua Green

Judging by Thursday’s electric debate, he may have sensed
his true opponent before anyone else had a clue: the network.


A few hours before Thursday’s Fox News debate, a friend of Donald Trump’s confided to me that Trump was nervous. Not about the competition—he could handle them. No, Trump worried about Fox News, and in particular, debate moderator Megyn Kelly. She’d been hammering him all week on her show, and he was certain she was out to get him. He’d canceled a Fox News appearance on Monday night, the friend said, in order to avoid her. (Trump’s spokeswoman wouldn’t confirm or deny this.)

It turns out Trump was right. His toughest opponents Thursday night weren’t the candidates up on stage, but the Fox News moderators, who went right after him—none with more gusto than Kelly.

Kelly, the whip-smart queen of Fox News’ blonde stunners, went straight for the jugular. “You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals,” she admonished Trump. “Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president?”

“I had more emotion about Fox News
tonight than I did about Donald Trump.”

Janet Roberts, 69, a nurse in Bellville, Ohio

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We won’t know for a few more days if other Republicans reacted to the debate as Roberts did. But my guess is that Trump didn’t hurt himself and might even emerge stronger than before. There’s an unspoken accord between Trump and his supporters that Thursday’s debate can only have intensified. Trump rants and raves in language that upsets and scandalizes the establishment. In return, his fans annoy the elite know-it-alls by rallying to him anyway. Together, they raise a big middle finger to everyone. That’s the art of the deal.

~~~> CONTINUE:  http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-07/fox-news-couldn-t-kill-trump-s-momentum-and-may-have-only-made-it-stronger
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 07, 2015, 10:03:16 am
Live Presidential FOX Debate tonight

Don King would love this - So what's the line on in Vegas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jzUJFW211M
Don King Has Never Lost An Interview
(http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/2014/12/18/don-king-flags2.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8i547uIMAA-IXn.jpg:large)
Donald Trump, Larry Holmes, Don King & Mike Tyson - #TysonHolmes - 1988 - Classic Photo

http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/13386269/donald-trump-odds-improve-12-1-win-us-presidential-race-2016-chalk
...
Heading into tonight's Republican debate, Trump is listed as low as 12-1 to win the 2016 election. Just six weeks ago, he was sitting at 100-1 at sports books in the United Kingdom. At William Hill, he's gone from 50-1 to 7-1 to win the Republican nomination.

| - -- -

Suckerberg own all your base ...

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/how-to-watch-the-fox-news-republican-debates-online/
How to Watch the Fox News Republican Debates Online
by Mediaite Staff | 11:36 am, August 6th, 2015

The first Republican presidential debates will air tonight on Fox News, co-presented by Facebook.

In order to watch the full debate online, you must have cable authentication — i.e., you will need to login using your cable subscription information. Otherwise, FoxNews.com will have clips (as will Mediaite) throughout the night; with the full debate available on the network’s site Friday morning.

Digital audiences may also interact with Fox during the debate, using the network’s Facebook page.
...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 07, 2015, 11:50:07 am
^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Love those pictures TahoeBlue.

  I met Don King when I worked at the Las Vegas Airport when I was a kid.  We talked for about 10 minutes.  He was nice to BS with.

  But he may be a bigger con man than Donald.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Sasha on August 08, 2015, 12:52:03 am
Trump: Bill called because he was upset - I am Hillary's worst nightmare

Donald Trump was on CNN earlier and Don Lemon asked him about the pre-race Bill Clinton phone call (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up8hbWjYI34).  Mr. Trump dismissed the question and then answered it without answering it, leaving us with the impression that Bill Clinton called him because Bill was 'upset' that Donald was running and even possibly feared for Hillary's chances because both she and Bill knew that Donald was her 'worst nightmare'.  Does this strike anyone else as unlikely and un-Clintonian?

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Well, that's none of your business, but it was very routine, and I will say, my mind, when we spoke, and this is where most of it written incorrectly.  Ah, my mind was already fully made-up.  In other words I was already gonna run.  So when, when we spoke; when he called my mind was already totally made-up.  I was already running essentially.  So, there was you know, nothing big, but I've known them over the years and I haven't spoken to them in a long time but, my mind was totally made-up.

Lemon followed-up, "Did he encourage you to run"?

Trump continued,

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No, no not at all.  In fact, I think he was upset.  I think, we didn't really discuss it, but I think he, look, I am Hillary's worst nightmare.  She knows it.  He knows it and I think the smart people in politics know it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on August 08, 2015, 07:12:05 am
Quote
Quote

No, no not at all.  In fact, I think he was upset.  I think, we didn't really discuss it, but I think he, look, I am Hillary's worst nightmare.  She knows it.  He knows it and I think the smart people in politics know it.
^^^^^
Now we could use GEO's  bull shit meter.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 08, 2015, 06:51:19 pm
 Trump is the man to lead this Nation out of a Banana Boat that we have become!

The 1st Debate shows how Trump can out smart the dopes from DC!

Trump won the debacle and Mr. Ben Carson is a close 2nd!  8)

..and I think it is COOL  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on August 09, 2015, 07:46:47 am
http://spectator.org/articles/63719/donald-and-apprentices (http://spectator.org/articles/63719/donald-and-apprentices)

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Conservatives pick Donald Trump for president because the media picks on him.

Even the Fox News referees went Matthew Dellavedova hard on the billionaire at the basketball arena last night. Megyn Kelly lambasted the Donald for calling certain women “fat pigs” and “slobs.” Bret Baier raised his history of supporting “liberal”—fighting words in that crowd—policies. Chris Wallace, pointing to Trump companies declaring bankruptcy four times, asked: “Why should we trust you to run the nation’s business?”

But the slings and arrows, which didn’t kill the candidate, likely make him stronger.

From Richard Nixon through George W. Bush, the intensity of the Right’s support for a politician correlates most closely not to his commitment to conservatism but to the degree of displeasure the politician causes journalists. You can impose price controls or attempt to foist illegal-immigration amnesty on the American people. Just don’t turn Chris Matthews’ sneer into a smile, receive a party invitation from Maureen Dowd, or allow something halfway nice about you to appear at the Huffington Post.

Conservatives hate the media more than they love their principles.

A Ted Kennedy donor who regarded himself as “very pro-choice,” urged his countrymen to “reexamine the single-payer plan,” and called the banker bailout “something that has to get done” does not appear as an identikit candidate for the Republican presidential nomination. But CNNMSNBCNewYorkTimesNPR despises him, and smiting enemies, not instituting principles, stands as priority one.

Surely other forces propel the Trump wave.

Trump the candidate strikes as the anti-Obama. The Donald and the teleprompter belong together like mustard and ice cream. The current president came to the office with little private sector experience. His would-be successor embodies the Calvin Coolidgism, “The business of America is business.” For Americans tired of living in a repeat of the 1970s through much of the Obama presidency, awarding the job to a job creator appeals.

His sway over a group accustomed to playing a punching bag stems in large part from his impulse to punch back—hard. When Univision attacked him for his strong restrictionist stance on immigration, he barred its executives from his golf courses. When Neil Young objected to Trump’s use of “Rockin’ in the Free World”—after harboring no such qualms (as Pete Townshend did for “Won’t Get Fooled Again”) when Michael Moore sought it for the cinematic conspiracy theory Fahrenheit 911—Trump tweeted out a picture of the Canadian musician begging for dollars at his office. He responded to Lindsey Graham calling him a “jackass” by giving out the senator’s cell phone number.

Trump, like the Kinks, loudly and frequently announces: I’m not like everybody else. Sixteen candidates rush to prove that they fit in. One guy dares to stand out. Even the ill-advised debate decision to refuse to back the party’s nominee separated Trump from the pack. That’s necessary on such a crowded stage.

Entering the race with the most money and name recognition helps. His ability to speak for rather than speak to the party base on illegal immigration generates enthusiastic support. And “Make America Great Again,” in melding two uncontroversial sentiments—America lost its mojo and regaining it sounds nice—surely beats “He’ll Do for America What He Did to the USFL” as a campaign slogan.

Worse strategies exist than taking reverse marching orders from the media. Previously, Republican primary voters tended to treat the nomination as a lifetime achievement award, strangely making a winner of the last go-around’s loser. Proven losers (Mitt Romney, John McCain, Bob Dole) generally proved to lose. Go figure.

And some wisdom colors the impulse to choose the candidate that the New York Times chooses to hate most. From experience, GOP voters know that whoever they nominate becomes the devil anyway.

Trump seems too thick-skinned to pull a Ross Perot and bolt. A more likely scenario sees his asset becoming a detriment in his loose lips sinking his ship. An abrasive style necessarily wears thin, so what sounds refreshing in August may grate seven or so months from now on Super Tuesday.

Then again, the Washingtonspeak of his gaggle of opponents grates terribly, which explains their troubles in the polls and preference for going for his voters rather than his jugular. John Kasich last night offering, “We need to take lessons from Donald Trump if we’re really going to learn,” sums up the challenge facing the apprentices. They either learn from Trump’s success this summer or bow to him at the convention next summer

http://spectator.org/articles/63719/donald-and-apprentices (http://spectator.org/articles/63719/donald-and-apprentices)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 09, 2015, 03:18:59 pm
http://www.wbls.com/news/news/say-what-donald-trump-wants-oprah-running-mate
SAY WHAT?!? Donald Trump Wants Oprah as a Running Mate
Donald Trump is running for POTUS and wants Oprah to do it with him.
by:Sapphira Martin
Jun. 17, 2015

(http://www.wbls.com/sites/g/files/exi701/f/styles/large_730/public/article-images-featured/429266-66316.jpg)
...
In an interview set to air on ABC with “Good Morning America” co-anchor, George Stephanopoulos, Trump discussed the possibility of having Oprah Winifrey as his running mate, which was a notion he floated back in 1999 when he was flirting with the possibility of being a Reform Party presidential candidate.

"I think Oprah would be great,” he added. “I’d love to have Oprah. I think we’d win easily, actually.” ...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 09, 2015, 06:36:26 pm
Trump would Never put Oprah on his team---the man is playing with these fools only to show how VAIN they are!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 09, 2015, 07:58:48 pm
^ ^ ^

… she is fat as a pig.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 10, 2015, 07:30:28 am
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-black-women-defend-donald-trump-shred-megyn-kelly/

  These girls have it right.  Don't mess with Trump Megyn Kelly.

  This story was the lead story at Drudge yesterday.

  VIDEO AT THE LINK.

VIDEO: Women warn Megyn Kelly: Back off Trump!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on August 10, 2015, 09:54:10 am
Just heard on radio Republican party forcing Trump to sign pledge  that he won't run 3rd party, or he won't be included in future debates.  I have mentioned before the party is bigger than the man. MR. TRUMP if you pledge that, You LOSE.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: jerryweaver on August 10, 2015, 04:10:13 pm
It's crony corporatism.  Socialist interests get rich by giving things like the Obama Phone @ 200.00 a month. Crony capitalists  get inside track deals on business opportunities. MONEY PEOPLE PLAY WHATEVER GAME IS IN SEASON.

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2015/08/10/we-as-conservatives-deserve-better-than-trump/

Over the last 15 years…Donald Trump has been a prolific financial supporter of MANY candidates however…his record shows that over those past 15 years…Trump has given more of his money to DEMOCRATS than to REPUBLICANS and in amongst those democrats…liberals and socialists to whom Trump has supported with his money, we find the ilk of Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton along with a handful of Hillary’s pals.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on August 10, 2015, 04:24:13 pm
Just heard on radio Republican party forcing Trump to sign pledge  that he won't run 3rd party, or he won't be included in future debates.  I have mentioned before the party is bigger than the man. MR. TRUMP if you pledge that, You LOSE.   

Finally made print.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/08/10/christmas-come-early-trump-reportedly-considering-no-third-party-run-pledge-n2036894 (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/08/10/christmas-come-early-trump-reportedly-considering-no-third-party-run-pledge-n2036894)

Again I hope he don't do it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 10, 2015, 06:19:50 pm
It's crony corporatism.  Socialist interests get rich by giving things like the Obama Phone @ 200.00 a month. Crony capitalists  get inside track deals on business opportunities. MONEY PEOPLE PLAY WHATEVER GAME IS IN SEASON.

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2015/08/10/we-as-conservatives-deserve-better-than-trump/

Over the last 15 years…Donald Trump has been a prolific financial supporter of MANY candidates however…his record shows that over those past 15 years…Trump has given more of his money to DEMOCRATS than to REPUBLICANS and in amongst those democrats…liberals and socialists to whom Trump has supported with his money, we find the ilk of Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton along with a handful of Hillary’s pals.

  True.  He was a Democrat in his early years.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 10, 2015, 06:23:31 pm
Trump would Never put Oprah on his team---the man is playing with these fools only to show how VAIN they are!

  True.  But they would be unbeatable. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 11, 2015, 02:07:14 am
  True.  But they would be unbeatable.
Doc, ya are right in the Fact that OP would help with the Ladies and Blacks!

...but I would still leave her off the ticket---as I do not Trust her!

...OH! and I was to hear glad that AJ is giving more thought to Trump being a REAL Candidate: --- only Time will tell!

...I believe he is REAL and has had a change of Heart and is thinking more like JFK than his other contenders!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 11, 2015, 06:41:42 am
Doc, ya are right in the Fact that OP would help with the Ladies and Blacks!

...but I would still leave her off the ticket---as I do not Trust her!

...OH! and I was to hear glad that AJ is giving more thought to Trump being a REAL Candidate: --- only Time will tell!

...I believe he is REAL and has had a change of Heart and is thinking more like JFK than his other contenders!

  Oh yeah, she won't be on his ticket.

  Ann Coulter said last night that most of these Republicans running for president are still wishy-washy on IMMIGRATION.  Even after Trump put immigration at the top of the list.  This tells you that most of the others are controlled.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 11, 2015, 07:38:36 am


… maybe Bernie Sanders will
take Oprah as a running mate.   :o

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: jerryweaver on August 11, 2015, 09:41:05 am
  One of the oath keepers patrol at Ferguson is quoted on RT.
“You elect Donald Trump, you put Donald Trump in office, he’ll change it all, he’ll get rid of these clowns he’ll get rid of these people that violate our rights and we’ll have somebody that actually cares about Americans again,” Andrews said, expressing his support for the Republican presidential candidate.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 11, 2015, 02:18:53 pm


Watch the DONALD beat up JEB BUSH 

maybe this should be a contest between

DONALD and JESSE VENTURA!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NsrwH9I9vE#t=163
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Slackjaw on August 11, 2015, 03:38:10 pm
  One of the oath keepers patrol at Ferguson is quoted on RT.
“You elect Donald Trump, you put Donald Trump in office, he’ll change it all, he’ll get rid of these clowns he’ll get rid of these people that violate our rights and we’ll have somebody that actually cares about Americans again,” Andrews said, expressing his support for the Republican presidential candidate.

That reminds me of all the delusional dupes who thought Obama would be the saviour and solve all their problems.

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 11, 2015, 07:06:01 pm
just heard trump speech on cnn ... the presidency is his .. if he doesn't mess up
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 11, 2015, 08:56:35 pm
^^^^

… was that the Phoenix announcement speech?
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Sasha on August 11, 2015, 10:11:05 pm
Donald Trump Press Conference FULL Q&A Birch Run Michigan "Donald Trump Press Conference" 8-11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E67P-1y4Xzw)

Donald Trump Campaign Speech FULL Birch Run Michigan Donald Trump Dinner Speech Press Conference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfpI3L8fypA)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 11, 2015, 10:40:53 pm
^^^^

… that was a good speech! He bumbles around
a bit but ends up being INSPIRING … OK,
I admit it!

NOTHING BEATS THE BIBLE!

Get a load of this ….


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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“In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
or the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised
incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”
(1 Corinthians 15:52)

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first.”
(1 Thessalonians 4:16)

FIRESTORM ERUPTS OVER
TRUMP'S 'BIBLE CONNECTION'

Christian minister claims God using the Donald for divine warning
JOE KOVACS

A Christian minister in Florida has ignited a firestorm over his suggestion that God is using Donald Trump as a divine instrument in the 2016 presidential election cycle.

In a column published in Charisma magazine, Jeremiah Johnson of Behold the Man Ministries in Lakeland, Florida, said he was praying several weeks ago “when God began to speak to me concerning the destiny of Donald Trump in America:”

The Holy Spirit spoke to me and said, “Trump shall become My trumpet to the American people, for he possesses qualities that are even hard to find in My people these days. Trump does not fear man nor will he allow deception and lies to go unnoticed. I am going to use him to expose darkness and perversion in America like never before, but you must understand that he is like a bull in a china closet.

Many will want to throw him away because he will disturb their sense of peace and tranquility, but you must listen through the bantering to discover the truth that I will speak through him. I will use the wealth that I have given him to expose and launch investigations searching for the truth. Just as I raised up Cyrus to fulfill My purposes and plans, so have I raised up Trump to fulfill my purposes and plans prior to the 2016 election.

You must listen to the trumpet very closely for he will sound the alarm and many will be blessed because of his compassion and mercy. Though many see the outward pride and arrogance, I have given him the tender heart of a father that wants to lend a helping hand to the poor and the needy, to the foreigner and the stranger.”


  http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/firestorm-erupts-over-trumps-bible-connection/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 12, 2015, 02:00:58 am
 Trump is the Man to Beat---and I do not think the field, he is up against, has a chance!

Trump and Carson 2016!!  ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on August 12, 2015, 07:54:06 am
Trump is the Man to Beat---and I do not think the field, he is up against, has a chance!

Trump and Carson 2016!!  ;)
Trump and Carson 2016!!
If that is the case Trump for sure is a dead man, the elites WANT forced vaccines,  Carson does too.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 12, 2015, 10:55:41 am

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LOTS MORE CARTOONS HERE:  http://www.nationalreview.com/slideshows/photoshop-day
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Sasha on August 12, 2015, 11:56:52 am
Donald Trump Now Seems to Want to Continue to Fund Planned Parenthood (http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/donald-trump-now-seems-to-want-to-continue-to-fund-planned-parenthood/)
Onan Coca - 4 hours ago - FreedomOutpost - excerpted

Editor's Note: This is one of many things that I meant by thinking that Donald Trump is a liberal. One week he wants to completely defund Planned Parenthood (a Constitutional position) and the next week he wants to fund them, except for abortions (an unconstitutional position). The problem is that the Constitution doesn't allows for funding of other organizations like Planned Parenthood at all and when they are funded, you can't control where that money goes and for what. This is why it would be important for these presidential candidates to answer a simple constitutional question.


...At first Trump sounds like a solid conservative on the issue;

"The problem that I have with Planned Parenthood is the abortion situation. It is like an abortion factory, frankly. And you can't have it. And you just shouldn't be funding it. That should not be funded by the government, and I feel strongly about that."

However, when pushed just a little by the uber-liberal Chris Cuomo, Trump folds like a house of cards.

"What I would do when the time came, I'd look at the individual things they do, and maybe some of the individual things they do are good. I know a lot of the things are bad. But certainly the abortion aspect of it should not be funded by government, absolutely."

A moment later Trump adds, "I would look at the good aspects of [Planned Parenthood], and I would also look, because I'm sure they do some things properly and good and that are good for women, and I would look at that, and I would look at other aspects also. But we have to take care of women."...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on August 12, 2015, 01:29:44 pm
I won't vote for him and hope he drops out soon.

I don't want a president:

1. who is a womanizer
2. who's contribution and experience  is shady underworld mafia casino running
3. who took a major dive financially, had to sell hotels and was brought back up by powers that be
4. who actually goes after little old ladies financially
5. who did a completely non-realistic and stupid *reality* tv show

and finally #6?  How can anyone with all that wealth wear a completely fake-looking rug like THAT!  Get a grip Donald.  Truly, the only taste that surrounded him was Ivanna.  Too bad his taste is all in his mouth.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 12, 2015, 06:06:34 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/12/politics/iowa-donald-trump-poll-cnn-orc/index.html

CNN / ORC Poll: Trump tops in Iowa as Scott Walker drops



Trump tops the field with 22% and is the candidate seen as best able to handle top issues including the economy, illegal immigration and terrorism. He's most cited as the one with the best chance of winning the general election, and, by a wide margin, as the candidate most likely to change the way things work in Washington.



Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson follows Trump in overall preference with 14%, bumping Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who had held the top spot in most recent public polling in Iowa, down to third place with 9%. Walker is nearly even with a slew of other candidates.

Previous public polls had found Carson with around 10% support, but most were released before last week's debate. A Suffolk University poll of Iowa Republicans released Tuesday found Carson's closing remarks to be the most memorable moment for those who watched the prime time debate.


Texas Sen. Ted Cruz follows the top three at 8%, with businesswoman Carly Fiorina and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee both at 7%. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is tied at 5% with senators Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. The rest of the field stands at 3% or less.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Sasha on August 12, 2015, 07:48:30 pm
Black Lives Matter Vow to Target Trump Campaign Events (http://www.infowars.com/black-lives-matter-vows-to-target-trump-campaign-events/)
Paul Joseph Watson  | August 12, 2015

Following Donald Trump’s promise that he would physically remove any Black Lives Matter activists who interrupted his campaign events, a leader of the protest group today guaranteed that such action is being planned.

Daunasia Yancey, founder and lead organizer of Black Lives Matter in Boston, told CNN’s Carol Costello that it was “terrible” that Trump had made “actual threats of violence against black people.”

“He’s actually one of the most powerful men in this country who’s vying for the most powerful position in this country. And so his public and proud threats and demeanor actually to me make him an unviable candidate for the presidency,” said Yancey.

When asked if Black Lives Matter would target Trump’s campaign events, Yancey responded, “I can guarantee there will be more call-outs across the country by folks in the network.”

“So we’ll see how strong Donald Trump really is in other words, right?” asked Costello, to which Yancey responded, “I guess so.”

continues...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 12, 2015, 08:25:02 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2015/08/09/msm-fails-note-sorosmoneymatters-only-targeting-hillary-opponents

  SOROS WANTS TO TAKE OUT BERNIE AND DONALD.  THE MAN WHO TURNED ON HIS OWN--THE JEWS IN GERMANY DURING WW2-- AND NOW AMERICA AND THE ENTIRE WORLD--- WANTS HILLARY IN THE WHITE HOUSE. 


MSM Fails to Note that #SorosMoneyMatters Only Targeting Hillary Opponents

Imagine if the Koch brothers had financed a group that was regularly disrupting and shutting down events of candidates that they opposed. Does anybody doubt that the Koch connection would come up in the first paragraph, if not the first sentence, of most news stories about such disruptions? Yet somehow, complete silence from the MSM on the connection of George Soros to #BlackLivesMatter even though he is the providing most of the finances to that organization. Also mysterious is how the MSM also fails to note that Hillary Clinton, whom Soros supports, has not had her events disrupted by #SorosMoneyMatters (also known as #BlackLivesMatter).

Two who were targeted by #SorosMoneyMatters were Hillary opponents Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders. The latter had the misfortune of having not only his large Seattle speech on Saturday, with an estimated 12,000 in the audience, disrupted but also completely shut down. Here is a sad video of several #BlackLivesMatter payees shutting down that Seattle speech as poor Bernie comes off as a hapless Elmer Fudd, unable to stand up to the Soros payroll.

The strong financial connection between billionaire George Soros and #BlackLivesMatter was revealed recently by Tom Blumer on NewsBusters which included this quote from investigative reporter Kelly Riddell of the Washington Times:

...Black Lives Matter is really an umbrella slogan kind of group that encompasses a lot of social justice workers and a lot of social justice organizations. And it's a group that was started by three women that work at Soros-backed organizations that are into community organizing, into kind of riling up activists.

Even the normally clueless DUers at the Democratic Underground are several steps ahead of the MSM as to who is financing #BlackLivesMatter and why as can be seen in these observations from peacebird:

BlackLivesMatter was given million$ by Soros after Ferguson. soros=Hillary Benefactor.

Begs the question: are BLM only targetting Bernie to swiftboat him for hillary?

...Has Hillary been targetted by BLM? No. Is Soros her supporter, Yes. Is he funding BLM, Yes.

It begs the question, why is only Bernie getting attacked?

BlackLivesMatter is looking more and more like a partisan Swiftboat group

A poll at the site shows 71% of the respondents agree with peacebird. Meanwhile silence from the MSM as to the seemingly ulterior but really very obvious motives of #BlackLivesMatter.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 13, 2015, 12:47:52 am
 Trump continually rises in the Polls: this tell me that only Trump will beat Trump:

...as long as he stays the course; The White House is his...

Americans across the spectrum do like this mans candor; and it is refreshing to hear, instead of the LIARS from DC!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 13, 2015, 04:50:52 am
 I just saw on FOX that Trump [22%] won Iowa and Carson [16%] came in second with Walked third. [I didn't hear his %]
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Stan on August 13, 2015, 06:42:46 am
I think Walker had 9%, with Jeb and Rand on 5%.

Just as I raised up Cyrus to fulfill My purposes and plans, so have I raised up Trump to fulfill my purposes and plans prior to the 2016 election.

Miley Cyrus? I think I'll file this under 'sceptical'.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 14, 2015, 08:34:55 am



Cleanliness Is Next To Donaldness!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAWNOmOEP_o

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Published on Aug 13, 2015
Digg has unearthed this Web 1.0 gem from 2006 featuring none other than Donald Trump himself.

In this flash-based ad for All, we have an oddly soft and incredibly helpful Donald. He does the laundry, he washes the dishes, he mops the floors! Is there anything The Donald can't do? The entire thing is legit, with Donald coming in for a photoshoot and recording his voice to use in the game.

The ad seems strangely prescient considering the slew of comments Donald has been directing at women lately, and we have to admit, it's a little satisfying seeing Donald hard at work, sort of.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 14, 2015, 11:22:44 am
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/14/exclusive-donald-trump-expects-to-face-vp-joe-biden-in-general-election-hillary-clintons-big-league-email-scandal-will-force-her-out/

  To think that Hillary wanted the word President on her gravestone more than anything!!!

EXCLUSIVE — DONALD TRUMP EXPECTS TO FACE VP JOE BIDEN IN GENERAL ELECTION: HILLARY CLINTON’S ‘BIG LEAGUE’ EMAIL SCANDAL WILL FORCE HER OUT
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 14, 2015, 11:27:34 am
I think they just strung Hillary Clinton along, ever since they made a fake promise to her at Bilderberg that she would inherit the Throne after King Obama.

Just my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on August 14, 2015, 11:32:06 am
This is very interesting news.

Maybe Donald was positioned in case of Hillary's fall -- Puppet Strings, and all.

EG - I think you are right.  They made a promise to her for the Presidency, but they cannot follow through on it.  She was all done with Benghazi.  I wouldn't be surprised that her fall with the current emails is perpetrated by those who promised her the Presidency
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 14, 2015, 11:32:39 am
I think they just strung Hillary Clinton along, ever since they made a fake promise to her at Bilderberg that she would inherit the Throne after King Obama.

Just my opinion of course.

  IMO she would have been worse than Obama.  All the LGBT crap that would have gone through.

  Because of the 2 relatives that have been killed by illegals in my family, I'M PUTTING MY MONEY ON TRUMP.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 14, 2015, 11:42:29 am
This is very interesting news.

Maybe Donald was positioned in case of Hillary's fall -- Puppet Strings, and all.

EG - I think you are right.  They made a promise to her for the Presidency, but they cannot follow through on it.  She was all done with Benghazi.  I wouldn't be surprised that her fall with the current emails is perpetrated by those who promised her the Presidency


I had not thought of that, but now that you mention it . . ..
Sounds highly probable !
That lot are always stabbing each other in the back, betraying each other, and disposing of anyone who is successful.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 14, 2015, 11:45:28 am
  IMO she would have been worse than Obama.  All the LGBT crap that would have gone through.

  Because of the 2 relatives that have been killed by illegals in my family, I'M PUTTING MY MONEY ON TRUMP.

Oh for sure, she would have bent over backwards to accommodate her lesbian buddies, and imported illegals because she hates america.

While I understand why your more than just angry, is Trump really going to do anything ?
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 14, 2015, 11:46:31 am
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/14/whistling-past-the-graveyard-gop-insiders-say-trump-cant-win/

  I would bet any of these jerks $10,000 that Trump will win unless they put a bullet in him. 


WHISTLING PAST THE GRAVEYARD: GOP INSIDERS SAY TRUMP CAN’T WIN
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 14, 2015, 11:50:05 am
Oh for sure, she would have bent over backwards to accommodate her lesbian buddies, and imported illegals because she hates america.

While I understand why your more than just angry, is Trump really going to do anything ?

  I think he is going to BUILD THAT FENCE.  We need to protect Americans such as Jackson Holly and Alex Jones that live near the border.

  I do have reservations about Trump BUT WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF GETTING INTO WW3 ANYWAY.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 14, 2015, 11:51:44 am
Oh I'm sure Trump could win, if he really wants to win.
I'm also sure that the media could destroy him in just one day, if they suddenly became real journalists and told the public the truth about his record.

I guess they don't care so long as they don't get a Rand Paul type anywhere near running the WhoreHouse DC
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 14, 2015, 11:52:37 am
  I think he is going to BUILD THAT FENCE.  We need to protect Americans such as Jackson Holly and Alex Jones that live near the border.

  I do have reservations about Trump BUT WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF GETTING INTO WW3 ANYWAY.

That is perfectly understandable.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 15, 2015, 10:34:16 am

"
Trump told The Post that he holds the Alabama Senator in extremely
high regard: “I like him… Tough guy. I like that. We have a
similar thought process.”


GAME CHANGE: TRUMP CONSULTS WITH SEN
JEFF SESSIONS ON IMMIGRATION STRATEGY

by JULIA HAHN  14 Aug 2015

In what may be the most important development in the 2016 Presidential race to date, Donald Trump has announced, and Sen. Jeff Sessions' office has confirmed, that the GOP front-runner is consulting with the Alabama Senator in crafting his immigration plan for the future of America.

The real estate mogul’s announcement will send shock waves through Washington D.C. and all across primary states.

Trump, whose campaign has focused primarily on issues of immigration and trade, has seen a meteoric rise since entering the race, with throngs of supporters across the country rocketing him to the top of every single poll, despite an extraordinary effort of establishment Republicans to take him down. Republican pundits have lobbed every imaginable accusation at Trump. Yet these same pundits, while seemingly furious at the man, have demonstrated no similar concern, angst, or passion about the dissolution of our southern border, the rampant exploitation of guest-worker programs, the collapse of middle class wages, and the growing illegal immigrant crime wave.

Sen. Sessions, Chairman of the Senate’s Immigration Subcommittee, is widely regarded as the gold standard on immigration. Sessions has also become the intellectual thought leader in the Republican Party on appealing to the blue collar voters who have been abandoned by their political leaders.

For instance, Sen. Sessions recently led the fight against Obamatrade, issuing one in-depth report after another about its effects on working families.

The Washington Post reports:

Donald Trump will unveil a series of position papers in early September, he said in an interview Friday, beginning with a plan to address immigration policy that was crafted with the counsel of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), a favorite of conservative activists and an outspoken border hawk…

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/14/game-change-trump-consults-with-sen-jeff-sessions-on-immigration-strategy/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 15, 2015, 10:36:02 am
He really is hard on Rand Paul in part of this , lots of interesting questions from people in town hall q&a setting ...

http://www.c-span.org/series/?roadToTheWhiteHouse
Featured Video
August 14, 2015

Donald Trump Campaign Rally in Hampton, New Hampshire
 
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks to supporters at a rally at Winnacunnet High School in Hampton, New Hampshire

http://www.c-span.org/video/?327605-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-hampton-new-hampshire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI
Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take It (Official Video)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 15, 2015, 07:48:00 pm
 I believe Trump has a lot of solutions to the problems caused by DC. And he is just starting to bring his solutions to the table.

 I'll bet his answers shock the establishment!

The man has proved to me he can answer any question the mangled media throws at him.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 15, 2015, 10:31:43 pm
      Jessie Ventura says 'Trump is shaking the System to it's core!'...and he is  8) ;) ;D

Article link: http://www.prisonplanet.com/ventura-donald-trump-is-shaking-the-system-to-its-core.html

 Mr. Ventura would like to be VP under Trump: and they could make a good team: But it is not going to happen---in my opinion.

The good part of this story is that Ventura understands that Trump has a Real Good Chance at taking over the Oval Office!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 16, 2015, 08:36:56 pm


quote JH:

"
Trump told The Post that he holds the Alabama Senator in extremely
high regard: “I like him… Tough guy. I like that. We have a
similar thought process.”


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sessions: Trump's America-first immigration
plan 'exactly' what American needs

By PAUL BEDARD • 8/16/15 7:29 PM

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/PrisonPlanetForum149/1060x600-754ddbe2d2f5131a2e71007ec9e1e182.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/PrisonPlanetForum149/1060x600-754ddbe2d2f5131a2e71007ec9e1e182.jpg.html)

The Senate's leading proponent of enforcing and toughening immigration laws said late Sunday that Donald Trump's immigration outline, his first major position white paper, is "exactly the plan America needs."

In a strong endorsement of Trump's bid to close the border to illegal immigration, the Alabama senator that regular native Americans and especially minorities would benefit by being put first in line for jobs.

"
In combination with a smart, fair
trade policy this proposal would
reinvigorate the middle class."


Quote
"This plan puts the needs of working Americans foremost, and develops an effective strategy for improving their wages and job prospects. Crucially, this plan includes an emphasis on lifting struggling minority communities, including our immigrant communities, out of poverty -- by preventing corporations from bringing in new workers from overseas to replace them and drive down wages," said Sessions in a statement.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2570297
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 17, 2015, 07:26:49 pm

WashPo's lead article for tomorrow 8/18!


LOL!~> "...Mr. Trump would set
back Mexico’s economy."



HINT:
He's Not just talkin' about MEXICO, dumb*SSes!


Donald Trump’s immigration plan
would wreak havoc on U.S. society

By Editorial Board August 17 at 7:38 PM

REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL hopeful Donald Trump, who unveiled his immigration platform over the weekend, says America’s illegal immigrants “have to go.” Although the large majority of Americans don’t agree, Mr. Trump is appealing to a more sympathetic audience: the most conservative slice of the Republican primary electorate.

So let’s take Mr. Trump’s plan at face value and examine the impact of deporting millions of undocumented immigrants.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-immigration-plan-would-wreck-havoc-on-us-society/2015/08/17/19703368-451d-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 17, 2015, 07:42:40 pm
But most americans DO want immigration deportation and immigration moratorium!!!

Trump is showing what has been forced out of frame by the corp/gov MIC Media - so the MSM response is to create a false reality of public opinion that is more to their liking ... :


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/17/are-trumps-immigration-views-in-or-out-of-the-mainstream/
Are Trump’s immigration views in or out of the mainstream?
posted at 3:21 pm on August 17, 2015 by Allahpundit
...
Byron York points to a recent study in which subjects were given a choice of seven options on immigration policy and finds that the most popular was — ta da — a closed border and mass deportations

,...
But “most popular” in this case means less than 25 percent support.


The largest single group, 24.4 percent, supported the most draconian option — closed borders and mass deportation — that is dismissed by every candidate in the race, including Trump. Add in the next group that supported Option Six, which would allow only a “small number” of highly skilled immigrants to enter the U.S. and also involve mass deportations, and the number increased to 38.2 percent. Then add Option Five, which would allow only highly skilled immigrants while physically blocking the border, and the number increased to 55.2 percent.

Trump’s immigration stance appears to fall somewhere between Option Five and Option Six, perhaps a little closer to the latter. It’s probably fair to say that, if Broockman and Ahler are correct, a majority of Americans — not just Republican voters, but all Americans — hold views that are consistent with Trump’s position, or are even more restrictive. Opponents like Graham portray Trump’s immigration position as far out of the mainstream, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
...

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: jerryweaver on August 19, 2015, 07:41:39 pm
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/08/movies/08PIERR.XLARGE1.jpg)

When do we get to play the hangman game?

Illuminati Exposed - Donald Trump Admitting Everything is a lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVYjIfU3eA#action=share
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: jerryweaver on August 19, 2015, 09:19:03 pm
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/08/movies/08PIERR.XLARGE1.jpg)

When do we get to play the hangman game?

Illuminati Exposed - Donald Trump Admitting Everything is a lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVYjIfU3eA#action=share

THE SITUATION ROOM

Attorney Firings Situation; Valerie Plame Testifies; Donald Trump Interview

Aired March 16, 2007 - 19:00   ET

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/16/sitroom.03.html
There is more about Valerie Plame etc..
Here is the transcript:
I'm Wolf Blitzer. You're in THE SITUATION ROOM.

He says Iraq was better off with Saddam Hussein. That the United States should get out and that in Washington everything is a lie -- more now with my one-on-one interview with Donald Trump, firing off about the Bush administration and the war.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BLITZER: The war is hovering over politics right now, as it should. This is the dominant issue, at least right now of our time. Give us your assessment. Is there a way out?

TRUMP: The war is total disaster. It's a catastrophe, nothing less. It is such a shame that this took place. In fact, I gained a lot of respect for our current president's father by the fact that he had the sense not to go in to Iraq. He won the war and then said let's not go the rest of the way and he turned out to be right.

And Saddam Hussein, whether they like him or didn't like him, he hated terrorists. He'd shoot and kill terrorists. When terrorists came in to his country, which he did control and he did dominate, he would kill terrorists. Now it's a breeding ground for terrorists. So, look, the war is a total catastrophe...

BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP: ... and they have a civil war going on...

BLITZER: Who do you blame?

TRUMP: Well there's only one person you can blame and that's our current president. I mean obviously Rumsfeld was a disaster and other people that are giving him advice have been a disaster, and Condoleezza Rice, who's a lovely woman, but she never makes a deal. She doesn't make deals. She waves. She gets off the plane. She waves. She sits down with some dictator 45-degree angle. They do the camera shot. She waves again. She gets back on the plane. She waves. No deal ever happens, so I mean...

BLITZER: You got to close a deal at some point?

TRUMP: You got to make deals. The world is dying to make deals and we don't have the right people doing it.

BLITZER: The vice president, Dick Cheney.

TRUMP: Well he's obviously a very hawkish guy on the war. He said the war was going fantastically just a few months ago, and you know, it's just very sad. I don't know if they're bad people. I don't know what's going on. I just know that they got us in to a mess, the likes of which this country has probably never seen.

It's one of the great catastrophes of all time and perhaps even worse, the rest of the world hates us. You go throughout Europe, I travel, I do deals all over the world. The Europeans hate us. You go to Germany. You go to England, you go to places that, you know, we didn't have problems with. They all hate the Americans because of what's happened.

We had a chance after September 11th to be the most -- for the first time ever, to be the most popular nation on earth. And we blew it. Everybody, for the first time people felt sympathy. I'm not saying it's a great thing to have sympathy in terms of yourself, but for the first time they felt a sympathy and love for this country because of what happened. And we blew it.

BLITZER: How does the United States get out of this situation? Is there a way ... TRUMP: You know how they get out? They get out. That's how they get out. Declare victory and leave, because I'll tell you, this country is just going to get further bogged down. They're in a civil war over there, Wolf. There's nothing that we're going to be able to do with a civil war. They are in a major civil war.

And it's going to go to Iran, and it's going to go to other countries. They are in the midst of a major civil war. And there's nothing -- by the way, we're keeping the lid on a little bit but date we leave anyway it's all going to blow up. And Saddam Hussein will be a nice person compared to the man and it will be a man, it will not a woman, that we understand. People say, oh, gee, you didn't give a woman a chance. It will be a man.

Compared to the person that takes over for Saddam Hussein, he will be considered a nice person. This guy will be the meanest, the worst guy and he'll have one thing, one thing, he will hate America, and he'll use that to flame. So, I mean, this is a total catastrophe and you might as well get out now, because you just are wasting time.

BLITZER: What ...

TRUMP: And lives. You know, nobody talks about the soldiers that are coming back with no arms and no legs. And I saw at Mara Lago on Mondays, I make Mara Lago, my club that you know about.

BLITZER: In Palm Beach ...

TRUMP: I make that --- twice now, on a Monday I let returning Iraqi injured soldiers come to the premises. The most beautiful people I've ever seen. But they're missing arms and legs, they're with their wives, sometimes they're with their girlfriends.

And the tears are coming down the faces of these people. I mean, thousands and maybe hundreds of thousands, and the Iraqis that have been just maimed and killed.

This war is a horrible thing. Now, President Bush says he's religious. And yet 400,000 people, the way I count it, have died, and probably millions have been badly maimed and injured.

What's going on? What's going on? And the day we pull out it's going to explode. We're keeping the lid on a little bit. It's still a catastrophe, but the day we pull out, because they're in a civil war. Whether we want to admit it or not, they're in a civil war.

BLITZER: What do you think of some of these scandals that are unfolding in Washington right now? As we speak the attorney general is under fire. Alberto Gonzales. What do you make of this as an executive trying to watch an administration?

TRUMP: Look, everything in Washington has been a lie. Weapons of mass destruction. It was a total lie. It was a way of attacking Iraq, which he thought was going to be easy and it turned out to be the exact opposite of easy. He reads 60 books a year. He read as book a week. That's -- did you think that's -- do you think the president reads a book week? I don't think so.

He doesn't watch television. Now, one thing I know is when I'm on television I watch. Or I try, because you do. Your own ego says, let's watch. Let's see. Whether it's good or bad, you want to watch. He doesn't watch television.

So he's on television being interviewed by you or something else, hesdoesn't watch. Does anybody really believe that? Now they are doing this whole scandal with the U.S. attorneys. Now they're finding e-mails. And it's proven to be a lie. Everything's a lie. It's all a big lie.

BLITZER: So what's going to happen?

TRUMP: Well, it depends. If the Democrats get their act together they're going to have is a big victory in a couple of years, and it's going to be interesting to see what happens with this whole thing with the attorney general. It's a very sad situation.

BLITZER: What's next for Donald Trump?

TRUMP: Well, I just want to keep doing what I'm doing. I'm having a great time, building all over the world, I'm having a really great time and it's been a lot of fun, and it's always fun to be interviewed by you.

BLITZER: Thanks for doing it.

TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you, Wolf.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

TRUMP: And still ahead tonight a former CIA operative breaking her silence on the leak which blew her cover. Is she blaming the White House for putting lives at risk?

And is there a biological basis to homosexuality that could be reversed in the womb? A Christian conservative leader raising a new controversy. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BLITZER: In the run-up to the war in Iraq, there were many key players. Now one of them is speaking out. The former CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson is saying who she thinks is responsible for her outing. Let's turn to Brian Todd once again for details.

BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Wolf, Mrs. Wilson minced no words about who she thinks leaked her identity in front of a packed hearing on Capitol Hill today, she pointed the finger straight down Pennsylvania Avenue.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE) TODD (voice-over): Valerie Plame Wilson blames the White House for blowing her CIA cover.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/16/sitroom.03.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 20, 2015, 08:19:19 am


… TIME MAG COVER STORY:

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/PrisonPlanetForum155/trump-cover-final.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/PrisonPlanetForum155/trump-cover-final.jpg.html)

The Donald Has Landed:
Deal With It!


"
Trump won’t hire a pollster, and he has let go about as many senior people from his campaign in the past month as he has hired. He does his own debate prep, doesn’t spend on advertising, refuses to seek big campaign contributions and says he gets military advice from watching pundits jabber on television. His campaign slogan, which he has trademarked, printed on hats and warned rivals not to use, is recycled ­pabulum—“Make America great again.” He can’t really finish three sentences without bragging about his business deals, his Ivy League education, his golf scores or his place in the polls.

But that’s who he really is, for better and worse, a living performance piece who no longer needs to pretend. It’s hard to look away. “I don’t think the people running for office are real,” Trump continues, speaking now of his competition, whom he keeps finding new ways to diminish. “They have to throw a lot of consultants away and be themselves. I think it is one of the things that has helped me.”


  http://time.com/trump/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 20, 2015, 01:14:08 pm


"… I'll use the term 'anchor babies'.

VIDEO: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/20/just-watch-how-donald-trump-reacts-when-reporter-yells-at-him-for-using-offensive-term-during-presser/

When Trump sarcastically asked the reporter what term he should use instead, Llamas suggested “the American-born child of an undocumented immigrant.”

“You want me to say that? OK. I’ll use the word anchor baby,” Trump said. “Excuse me, I’ll use the word anchor baby.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 20, 2015, 01:31:46 pm
I get the feeling some people would vote for Nathan Rothschild if he made enough of the right sound bytes.
 ;D
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 20, 2015, 03:30:04 pm
 Trump has done; in a short time, what most of the DC dopes can not do in a life time in office, in control!

Trump will WIN if he stays the course: as he is liked by all!

...America is in ruins and Trump is pointing this out on the Mangled Media!  8)

...the Re-Dumb-Ya-Cans are running scared and the Nation is looking for a new path---and Trump is the man: in my opinion!  ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 20, 2015, 04:40:56 pm
Trump has done; in a short time, what most of the DC dopes can not do in a life time in office, in control!

Trump will WIN if he stays the course: as he is liked by all!

...America is in ruins and Trump is pointing this out on the Mangled Media!  8)

...the Re-Dumb-Ya-Cans are running scared and the Nation is looking for a new path---and Trump is the man: in my opinion!  ;)

It's interesting how very negative ALL the MSM have been ... I assume will continue to be ...
Brietbart/Drudge continues to support   - interesting huh?

Trump seems to have taken actual surveys of real people and is basing his platform on those "populist" feelings ...

Gee, Is it any wonder he is "popular"?

Have you noticed how often you've heard the MSM say he is "Off Script"? 


example: notice the "still" adjective! :

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/politics/donald-trump-rnc-war-room/index.html
Does the RNC have a secret anti-Trump war room?

Washington (CNN)The Republican National Committee is running a secret war room to take out Donald Trump's presidential campaign.

Or so says Roger Stone, the former Trump political adviser, who still supports Trump.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 20, 2015, 07:30:14 pm
It's interesting how very negative ALL the MSM have been ... I assume will continue to be ...
Brietbart/Drudge continues to support   - interesting huh?

Trump seems to have taken actual surveys of real people and is basing his platform on those "populist" feelings ...

Gee, Is it any wonder he is "popular"?

Have you noticed how often you've heard the MSM say he is "Off Script"? 


example: notice the "still" adjective! :

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/politics/donald-trump-rnc-war-room/index.html
Does the RNC have a secret anti-Trump war room?

Washington (CNN)The Republican National Committee is running a secret war room to take out Donald Trump's presidential campaign.

Or so says Roger Stone, the former Trump political adviser, who still supports Trump.
Mate; I believe Trump is the Real Deal and he reminds me of President John F. Kennedy!

He had a change of heart and I think Donald has also  ;)

...time will only tell...

 I am Voting Trump!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on August 20, 2015, 08:17:34 pm
Trump says all the right things - he's no dummy.

But consider.  Wouldn't it be a dream come true to have robots for everything casino?  Wow.  And, do you think he could afford those robots?

Put two & two together with robots and nwo... bing, I have my answer.

We are all weary and want the best.  I'm still holding out for Rand at this point.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 21, 2015, 06:47:10 pm
LIVE TONIGHT: TRUMP STADIUM RALLY IN ALABAMA... DEVELOPING...
40,000 MAY TURN OUT...
STREAM... STREAM...

Biggest primary event so far?

http://www.fox10tv.com/category/291730/livestreaming-on-fox10

should be a good show ...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 21, 2015, 07:19:51 pm
LIVE TONIGHT: TRUMP STADIUM RALLY IN ALABAMA... DEVELOPING...
40,000 MAY TURN OUT...
STREAM... STREAM...

Biggest primary event so far?

http://www.fox10tv.com/category/291730/livestreaming-on-fox10

should be a good show ... starting NOW ...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Sasha on August 21, 2015, 07:29:02 pm
Senator Sessions just donned a Donald cap.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 21, 2015, 08:00:55 pm
Vets !
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 21, 2015, 08:07:59 pm
repeal obamacare ...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 21, 2015, 08:12:33 pm
greatest jobs president
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on August 21, 2015, 08:35:00 pm
I get the feeling some people would vote for Nathan Rothschild if he made enough of the right sound bytes.
 ;D

A non Politian, well known, and saying the things the voters want to hear.  Gathering quite a following.   Not a dummy that's for sure.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Letsbereal on August 21, 2015, 09:24:05 pm
Bill Burr On Donald Trump’s Appeal - CONAN on TBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFIjdZ75xgo


Guy nailed it though be it in a humorous way. They really think wur stupid.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: chris jones on August 22, 2015, 01:11:02 pm
The MESSENGER...
 Trump is delivering it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 22, 2015, 02:13:18 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206742/I-don-t-want-wait-Donald-Trump-tells-crowd-Alabama-stadium-wishes-election-tomorrow-far-ahead-opponents-despite-hype-stadium-half-full.html
'Now I know how Billy Graham felt':
Pumped up Trump addresses his biggest crowd yet at 40,000-seat Alabama stadium (but leaves 10,000 seats empty)
•Republican front-runner addressed massive crowd in Mobile
•Started his speech by saying: 'I know how Billy Graham felt'
•The 40,000-seat Ladd-Peebles Stadium was about half-full during speech
•Reiterated intention to end 'birthright citizenship' for immigrants' children
•Attacked Obama, saying Obamacare was his only domestic success

By Associated Press
Published: 21:18 EST, 21 August 2015  | Updated: 07:05 EST, 22 August 2015

Republican front-runner Donald Trump on Friday joked, 'I know how Billy Graham felt' as he addressed the largest crowd yet of his thriving presidential campaign.

'I would like to have the election tomorrow,' Trump crowed. 'I don't want to wait.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206742/I-don-t-want-wait-Donald-Trump-tells-crowd-Alabama-stadium-wishes-election-tomorrow-far-ahead-opponents-despite-hype-stadium-half-full.html#ixzz3jZaq9bvK
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Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 22, 2015, 05:47:13 pm
 Trump has 30,000 folks show up to hear him speak ---this is a good thing for our Nation.

He will draw larger crowds as Americans look at him as a Serious Candidate for President!

...most folks think Trump is playing politics!

 NO HE IS NOT!

...and the Nation in starting to understand that this man is for REAL!

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 22, 2015, 09:42:34 pm
… is the Alpha Male taking charge?

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/screenshot_860.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/screenshot_860.jpg.html)
BEOWULF: http://uastudent.com/beowulf-as-a-written-monument-of-old-english/


"
He is the unapologetic, quintessential warrior
male of yore capable of vanquishing any
and all opposition in his way.


DONALD TRUMP: WARRIOR
MALE EXTRAORDINAIRE

Exclusive: Kent G. Bailey, Ph.D., says such
men have 'sustained the human race'


In 1987, I published the first book in the field of Human Paleopsychology. This approach is premised on two basic assumptions: First, human beings have an ancient and rich evolutionary history, and second, that ancient history is thoroughly involved in everything we feel, think and do personally, politically and morally. According to famed neuroscientist Paul MacLean, the human brain is composed of a primeval reptilian segment at the lowest level, a mammalian segment at mid-level and a human or neocortical segment at the highest level. I added the notion that we human beings are constantly “regressing down” or “progressing up” MacLean’s triune brain system in the natural flow of behavior.

The concept of “paleopolitics” is an obvious derivative of human paleopsychology. Indeed, we may easily infer that humans are, at base, political animals who obey more the law of the jungle than the pieties of high culture or the moral righteousness of the godly. Politics is selfish and egoistic, tribalistic and xenophobic to its core, and will readily go to war to win at any cost. It sells itself as “progressive” and of higher things yet most often operates in the gutters of human nature. Politics is not for fops, Pollyannas or the faint-hearted; it is internecine war by another name. It is the game of war, and only the true warriors win.

"
In 2006, I published a column suggesting
that Ann Coulter was the last of the
“real men” on the intellectual right.


In the past 60 years or so, America has become progressively feminized, and the archetypal warrior male has virtually disappeared. However, some tough ladies have stepped in to fill the vacuum including Phyllis Schlafly, Laura Ingraham, Sarah Palin and Michelle Malkin and many others. But how would any of these wonderful and strong women compete head-to-head in a private conference room with Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un of North Korea, or the mullahs and emirs of the volatile Middle East? We have seen how poorly our current girly-man-in-chief, Barack Obama, has dealt with the world of violent supermales out there.

From the dawn of time, mutual respect among
warrior males is the coin of the realm in these matters.


Quote
Donald Trump is the prototypical, archetypal and testosterone-driven alpha male who rules by the sheer force of his personality, imposing physique, quick wit, mastery of repartee and almost hypnotic control over his gathering masses of adoring followers.

  http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/donald-trump-warrior-male-extraordinaire/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on August 23, 2015, 09:09:55 am
Donald Trump live with Judge Jeanine

http://therightscoop.com/full-interview-of-trump-with-judge-jeanine/ (http://therightscoop.com/full-interview-of-trump-with-judge-jeanine/)

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: lee51 on August 25, 2015, 12:28:51 pm
This is what William N. Grigg said about Donald Trump:


Donald Trump is supposedly an "alpha male" because he plays to the prejudices of his audience -- and yet he shatters into a million petulant fragments when he's asked a question that makes him uncomfortable,

Ron Paul faced a steady onslaught of mockery, scorn, and derision for promoting peace and individual liberty. He never backed down, nor did he modulate his position in order to find favor with the mob. He didn't engage in adolescent twitter-trolling of media figures who had offended him.

Meekness, we are told, is strength restraining itself. Trump's facile bluster is the sound of incurable insecurity. Dr. Paul became a leader because he was confident enough to stand alone, when necessary, in defense of what he believes to be right.


http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/

We need a President that shows a dignified self-control. Not one that posts petty stuff on twitter and gets all hostile over what certain people say about him (FOX--Megyn Kelly) and retaliates publicly by calling her names like a grade school kid. This is NOT the man we want as President and if he gets in, we will be SORRY a million times just like we've been sorry with Obama.  A WARNING to the wise.


What Mr. Grigg said above was said on his facebook page.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: lee51 on August 25, 2015, 02:05:29 pm
Bimbo?

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/401804-react-to-donald-trump-misogynistic-comments/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Politics

Please go to the link above and read the very latest between Trump and Megyn Kelly.

Donald Trump is not Presidential material.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 25, 2015, 02:14:39 pm
you don't get it  or maybe you do ... the Kelley / Trump fiasco keeps Trump in the news and focus on "fox" Murdoch ...
its a win win ... for somebody ...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 25, 2015, 03:23:30 pm

… in large part it is Trump, once again,
calling out the "news" media for their
blatant Bimboism/Info-babeism …
BTW, when is FOXXX gonna hire
Mr/Ms Jenner?
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on August 25, 2015, 03:30:01 pm
Where's Weird Al in all this ?

You'd think he'd make a Trump parody by now ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQwWaWFjd0Y

He's Trump he's Trump......

 ;D
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on August 25, 2015, 09:20:48 pm

"… I'll use the term 'anchor babies'.

VIDEO: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/20/just-watch-how-donald-trump-reacts-when-reporter-yells-at-him-for-using-offensive-term-during-presser/

When Trump sarcastically asked the reporter what term he should use instead, Llamas suggested “the American-born child of an undocumented immigrant.”

“You want me to say that? OK. I’ll use the word anchor baby,” Trump said. “Excuse me, I’ll use the word anchor baby.”


OUTRAGEOUS!

"
...71 percent of illegal-alien headed households with children
received some sort of welfare in 2009, compared with
39 percent of native-headed houses with children.



CENSUS: ANCHOR BABY
DELIVERED EVERY 93 SECONDS

by JULIA HAHN  25 Aug 2015

One out of about every twelve newborns in the United States is an anchor baby, or the U.S.-born child of illegal migrants, according to a Pew Research Center study.

This means that one anchor baby is delivered every 93 seconds, based on the 2008 census data analyzed by the Pew.

The huge number of foreign children born on U.S. soil– roughly 340,000 per year— is also an economic imposition on Americans, who pay taxes to help raise, feed, and educate those children of illegal migrants.

Eventually, those 340,000 U.S.-born foreign children can join the U.S. workforce and compete for wages against the roughly four million children of U.S. parents that enter the slow-growing U.S. economy each year.

Quote
The rewards to the mother and father are huge. The mother, for example, can collect federal welfare on behalf of the child, and the adult child – as a U.S. citizen – will eventually be able to win a green card for his or her parents, despite their prior illegal entry into the United States.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/25/census-anchor-baby-delivered-every-93-seconds/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on August 26, 2015, 12:13:12 am
~bump

Go Donald!  Tell it like it is with no euphamisms!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on August 26, 2015, 01:56:01 pm
You can't fault Mexican families for wanting better for their kids.

American and Mexican drug cartels fight it out in Mexico and when America gets the Mexicans whose lives are destroyed by the 2 factions come to America for asylum then we are going to bitch.....

Illegal immigration is American driven in Mexico....

You can't get Kleptocratic loving conservatives to go to Mexico despite all the "liberal" social programs here... cuz even despite their "Bible Belt" roots they have enough Darwinian sense to not go to Mexico and try to live there.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on August 29, 2015, 04:10:31 pm
What about getting an endorsement by Ross Perot that would get my attention as far as Trump being serious about what is good for America ?

How about it ?

 ???
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Letsbereal on August 29, 2015, 06:02:16 pm
Simpsons Episode from 2000 Predicts TRUMP Becomes President and More https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZyaDKaun7w

Aug 29, 2015 X22Report
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on August 30, 2015, 09:01:08 am
Oh I'm sure Trump could win, if he really wants to win.
I'm also sure that the media could destroy him in just one day, if they suddenly became real journalists and told the public the truth about his record.

I guess they don't care so long as they don't get a Rand Paul type anywhere near running the WhoreHouse DC

right on  EG except I would change the bolded part above to   the media could destroy either party in just one day if they suddenly became real journalists and told the public the truth about each parties agenda.
Which answers why they don't want rand paul.  He'll never be president as long as he keeps the R behind his name.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on August 31, 2015, 07:56:48 pm
 The true point about Trump is: "He says what he wants!"

...and most of what he is saying is true!

...Trump can win; because he has determination---To make America Great , Again!

...Americans are not that dumb to think a Washington insider will change anything!

...But; Now Americans like the Bold Trump, telling off the Goofs from DC!

...I am voting Trump--- ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 01, 2015, 10:56:31 am
interesting Rev. Manning ...  what we are up against ...

http://atlah.org/2015/09/01/america-will-never-have-a-republican-president/
https://youtu.be/gPCCpVdOs2Q
America Will Never Have A Republican President

Dr. James David Manning says America has become a liberal nation and there will never be another republican president. (31 Aug. 2015)

last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt8WgxwER74
There's Gonna Be A Reckoning, Pastor Manning Says He's Joining The White Folks  (2014)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:01:09 am
Of course not.

The middle class suffers under Republicans.

Red-States are welfare states despite years of rightwing media mis-information of liberal blue states being welfare states.  Truth is blue states are more educated and more economically productive than red states.

This is the Republicans' nail in the coffin.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 01, 2015, 11:36:38 am
Of course not.

The middle class suffers under Republicans.

Red-States are welfare states despite years of rightwing media mis-information of liberal blue states being welfare states.  Truth is blue states are more educated and more economically productive than red states.

This is the Republicans' nail in the coffin.

So you are an Obama/Hillary lover? and require mental help? and have an ssri prescription?
(https://loquendolaxe.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/hillary-the-witch-clinton-cowers.jpg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n78VorxU2lQ/UJnwBRGE_AI/AAAAAAAADv0/nU5zk8skDaA/s400/obama-win-gloat.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0fMYF48a_Y
Obama's Third Term
Published on Jul 29, 2015 The Manning Report
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:48:40 am
Of course not I have been a pround member of the Constitution Party since the Chuck Baldwin days....  I am leaning towards Bernie Sanders but I am not sure what the CP is doing just yet.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/get-involved/events/

We have a CNC meeting in October... I'll make it viral after it goes to youtube...

Been a Constitution Party convert since 2008, been listening to Alex's show since 2006.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:51:04 am
Being from NYS I've seen the socialism effects of the Democrat Party.... 7-8th Generation Welfare... Art Museums and other social organizations getting millions while inventors and industrialist get the shaft, believe me I am no fan of the Democrat Party either.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 01, 2015, 08:45:15 pm
 I have to say: the more I listen to Trump tear down the DC Dopes: The more I want him in the White House/wit Dr. Ben Carson as VP:

..Good team--Trump the NO BS MAN...and Dr. Carson--the Beautiful Mind of Man!

...both men are on top of the polls---so only time will tell...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 02, 2015, 07:37:59 am


… Trump packs a lot of explosives into
30 seconds … on the stump or in a commercial:



Willie Horton political ad 1988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o

Trump Ad: “This is no act of love as Jeb Bush said ”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD4wnQvLhyI
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 02, 2015, 04:54:20 pm

… Trump packs a lot of explosives into
30 seconds … on the stump or in a commercial:



Willie Horton political ad 1988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o

Trump Ad: “This is no act of love as Jeb Bush said ”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD4wnQvLhyI
Nice info Mr. Holly  8)

..I say: "Mr. Trump: Keep telling off the goofs in DC!"

Trump will WIN: if he stays the course!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 03, 2015, 07:23:18 am
No media dares askWhy is Donald Trump’s name listed in a known pedophile’s “little black book?”

Quote
Here at The Anti Media, we have been a bit conflicted with our coverage of the 2016 presidential election. We tend to keep our discussion of presidential candidates to a minimum to avoid aching migraines. When it comes to Donald Trump (someone likely to give a fair amount of the population a migraine) we have tried to point out his flaws, his potential, and to highlight the stories the media ignores while it focuses on Trump’s traveling circus. However, for all the laughs to be had about Trump, one thing is certain: he has the media’s attention. Love him or hate him, he has somehow become the highest polling candidate in the Republican party.

Supporters of Trump like to point out that he is not afraid to be politically incorrect — that he speaks his mind. He is seen as a tough businessman who can get the economy back in shape. Or something like that.

The truth is that Trump is like all other politicians. He is after power and perhaps even believes he could do some good for the United States. That makes him even more dangerous. He believes his radical ideas are going to help unify this already heavily divided nation. Trump says that he would force millions of human beings to leave this country because they were born on the wrong side of a line on a map. Recently, Trump said he gets his military advice from watching television. Still, none of these issues are being ignored by the corporate media, so what exactly is “the question the media won’t ask Donald Trump”?
again.
Why is Donald Trump’s name listed in a known pedophile’s “little black book?” What is Trump’s role, if any, in the alleged sex rings operated by billionaire Jeffrey Epstein?
 

from article....
Quote
“Mr. Trump only knew Mr. Epstein as Mr. Trump owns the hottest and most luxurious club in Palm Beach, and Mr. Epstein would go there on occasion.”  With that, the media backed off the story and forgot about the Trump connection. The Donald officially launched his campaign on June 16, 2015. By that point, the topic had long since been buried under more sensationalist headlines and talking points. Hopefully, someone out there on the campaign trail will have the courage to ask Donald Trump to clarify his connection to this despicable situation. For what it’s worth, I encourage everyone to ask ALL the candidates tough questions and stop accepting their words as gospel.

entire article:  http://www.thedailysheeple.com/one-question-the-media-refuses-to-ask-donald-trump_082015 (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/one-question-the-media-refuses-to-ask-donald-trump_082015)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 03, 2015, 06:11:02 pm
It's Done: Trump Signs No Third Party Pledge

Was fun while it lasted.  The sob sold out.  Well can't say it was a total shock to me,  its  still the one party system, he can say what he wants now as he does, but just signed his puppeteership.  Look else where any trump fans,  his words and promises are toast.  The PARTY is greater then the man.



http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/09/03/its-done-trump-signs-no-third-party-pledge-n2047689?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad= (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/09/03/its-done-trump-signs-no-third-party-pledge-n2047689?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=)


Betcha he drops in the polls, rich man but what a sucker!


Prediction he loses nomination goes back on his pledge goes 3rd party and then all we will here   "Hey he pledged  blah blah  does anyone want someone who can't keep a pledge to run this country"  and the dumb sheep will vote for whomever the elite select. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 03, 2015, 07:32:47 pm
It's Done: Trump Signs No Third Party Pledge

Was fun while it lasted.  The sob sold out.  Well can't say it was a total shock to me,  its  still the one party system, he can say what he wants now as he does, but just signed his puppeteership.  Look else where any trump fans,  his words and promises are toast.  The PARTY is greater then the man.
...

Yep,  Now they can SERIOUSLY WORK ON sinking him ... they really want to shove jebby down our throats ... they've got so much invested in him !
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 03, 2015, 07:50:22 pm
Trump is no 'Dummy!'

..if he ran as a 3rd party---he loses all the 'perks' from the Re-Dumb-Ya-Cans!

...Trump is playing these Fools in DC: like a Fine Tuned Fiddle  ;)

..Trump will WIN---as long as he plays the tune he is playing now  8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: lovelesssephiroth on September 03, 2015, 10:46:38 pm
DONALD JOHN DRUMPFF TRUMP USED TIME TRAVEL WITH MARK ZUCKERBERG TO RIG THE ELECTIONS.  HE BUILDS HIGHER SKYSCRAPERS THAT SERVE AS BROTHELS.  POLITICS IS FAKE.  DO NOT VOTE.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 04, 2015, 06:28:01 am


See the Scathing Note Donald Trump Penned to
Former NBA Player Who Wrote Essay Critical of Him

Sep. 2, 2015 8:22pm    Oliver Darcy
Presidential candidate Donald Trump responded to an essay critical
of him Wednesday by penning a letter to the author —
over a printed copy of the essay in question.


The piece, authored by former NBA player Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and
published in the Washington Post, was titled
“This is the difference between Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.”

  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/09/02/best-wishes-see-the-scathing-note-donald-trump-penned-to-author-who-wrote-essay-critical-of-him/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/PrisonPlanetForum180/screenshot_869.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/PrisonPlanetForum180/screenshot_869.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 04, 2015, 06:56:44 am
It's Done: Trump Signs No Third Party Pledge

Was fun while it lasted.  The sob sold out.  Well can't say it was a total shock to me,  its  still the one party system, he can say what he wants now as he does, but just signed his puppeteership.  Look else where any trump fans,  his words and promises are toast.  The PARTY is greater then the man.



http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/09/03/its-done-trump-signs-no-third-party-pledge-n2047689?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad= (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/09/03/its-done-trump-signs-no-third-party-pledge-n2047689?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=)


Betcha he drops in the polls, rich man but what a sucker!


Prediction he loses nomination goes back on his pledge goes 3rd party and then all we will here   "Hey he pledged  blah blah  does anyone want someone who can't keep a pledge to run this country"  and the dumb sheep will vote for whomever the elite select.




Already being talked about!!! yes a fox news thing BUT the seed has been planted.

 
Quote
Do you really think Trump will follow his pledge if he drops in the polls in several months? Carlson asked.

"Sure, you can rip up whatever agreement you want and say, 'I’ve changed my mind.' But I think that when someone puts their name on a piece of paper and says to the American people that, 'I give you my word,' and when the other candidates raise their hands and say, 'I’m not going to run as an Independent,' I think that means something,"  Priebus said.

"I think it means something when you run for president. And when Donald Trump was asked today was there anything that would change your mind, he said, 'There’s nothing that would change my mind. This is what I’m doing.'"

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/09/03/reince-priebus-if-donald-trump-could-change-his-mind-after-signing-gop-loyalty-pledge (http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/09/03/reince-priebus-if-donald-trump-could-change-his-mind-after-signing-gop-loyalty-pledge)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 04, 2015, 08:44:10 pm
Now starts the downward slide. 

TRUMP on Kim Davis: The Supreme Court decision is the law of the land

Read more: http://therightscoop.com/trump-on-kim-davis-the-supreme-court-decision-is-the-law-of-the-land/#ixzz3kpBt0YQb
Look at this comment......Trump lost any vestige of getting my vote after these inane statements. Think about it. He just agreed with the worst ever SCOTUS decision and the worst ever agreement we have had with another nation. His lack of understanding of even basic constitutional precepts (SCOTUS cannot make laws and only the Senate by 2/3rd's vote can approve of treaties) is disqualifying.


how quick will he fall. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 04, 2015, 08:51:20 pm
Not alone on my above statement.   
Quote
Trump Just Signed His Death WarrantThe GOP has finally muscled its maverick front-runner, Donald Trump, into submission. A Trump adviser said on Thursday the billionaire has agreed to sign the Republican “loyalty pledge” he famously refused at the first debate in Cleveland last month, apparently ruling out a scenario that utterly terrified the GOP establishment: that Trump would launch a third-party bid and almost certainly deny Republicans the White House. With the stroke of a pen, Trump will put these fears to rest—and immeasurably weaken his own standing. He’s probably signing his political death warrant.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/09/04/trump_just_signed_his_death_warrant_364787.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/09/04/trump_just_signed_his_death_warrant_364787.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 05, 2015, 07:19:22 pm
 Trump is not as dumb as the field of politicos think!

He will win if he stays the course of telling the DC Fools to GET LOST!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Slackjaw on September 06, 2015, 05:46:34 pm
Now starts the downward slide. 

TRUMP on Kim Davis: The Supreme Court decision is the law of the land

Read more: http://therightscoop.com/trump-on-kim-davis-the-supreme-court-decision-is-the-law-of-the-land/#ixzz3kpBt0YQb
Look at this comment......Trump lost any vestige of getting my vote after these inane statements. Think about it. He just agreed with the worst ever SCOTUS decision and the worst ever agreement we have had with another nation. His lack of understanding of even basic constitutional precepts (SCOTUS cannot make laws and only the Senate by 2/3rd's vote can approve of treaties) is disqualifying.

 

SCOTUS does not pass legislation and did not do so in this case.

SCOTUS interprets the law and provides final settlement to legal disputes. The gay marriage ruling was the SCOTUS interpretation of the 14th amendment clauses referring to Due Process and Equal Protection. You might not agree with their decision but it was theirs to make under the US Constitution.

You mention Trump "agreeing with an agreement with another country"; which agreement and when did Trump agree with it?
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 07, 2015, 07:23:47 am

… Trump would more than double the best (black vote)
result for a Republican in modern American history.


SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of
black vote in general election matchup

SEPTEMBER 6, 2015
BY KYLE OLSON

For all the talk about Donald Trump allegedly driving minorities away from the Republican Party, could he actually bring people in?

A SurveyUSA poll released Friday shows in a hypothetical matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump is ahead 45% to 40%.

But digging into the racial breakdown of the respondents is revealing. For example, the poll finds 25% of black respondents say they would vote for Trump over Clinton.

ALSO …
poll finds 31% of Hispanics would vote for Trump.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on September 07, 2015, 03:15:27 pm
Did he do it?  Did he sign the dotted line yet?

The GOP should consider themselves blessed and lucky if Trump runs Republican.  GOP should be kissing Trump's rear.  Trump has all the power.

I would say to Mr. Donald Trump:  No matter how pretty the offer - DO NOT - sign on with GOP exclusively.

Why?  Because then he would be under their thumb, and he would have to succumb to what corruption dictates.  GOP would have the power to make or break him.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 07, 2015, 03:40:19 pm
… Trump would more than double the best (black vote)
result for a Republican in modern American history.


SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of
black vote in general election matchup

SEPTEMBER 6, 2015
BY KYLE OLSON

For all the talk about Donald Trump allegedly driving minorities away from the Republican Party, could he actually bring people in?

A SurveyUSA poll released Friday shows in a hypothetical matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump is ahead 45% to 40%.

But digging into the racial breakdown of the respondents is revealing. For example, the poll finds 25% of black respondents say they would vote for Trump over Clinton.

ALSO …
poll finds 31% of Hispanics would vote for Trump.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/

  This proves that a lot of Hispanics and Blacks are scared that they will lose their jobs IF SOMETHING IS NOT DONE ABOUT IMMIGRATION.

  BUILD THAT FENCE DONALD.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 07, 2015, 03:44:26 pm
  It seems weird to me that we have a section for Trump and also a section for the 2016 Election.  I think we also have a separate section for Rand Paul who has become a non-factor.

  I think we should move this thread back to the 2016 Election.

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 08, 2015, 06:42:51 am
Did he do it?  Did he sign the dotted line yet?

The GOP should consider themselves blessed and lucky if Trump runs Republican.  GOP should be kissing Trump's rear.  Trump has all the power.

I would say to Mr. Donald Trump:  No matter how pretty the offer - DO NOT - sign on with GOP exclusively.

Why?  Because then he would be under their thumb, and he would have to succumb to what corruption dictates.  GOP would have the power to make or break him.


We agree Egypt.   Scroll up to 5 or 6  replies.  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/09/04/trump_just_signed_his_death_warrant_364787.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/09/04/trump_just_signed_his_death_warrant_364787.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on September 08, 2015, 04:52:36 pm
I've been cynical of Trump. But this video from 2007 sent chills down my spine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqA2Hs5dTFM
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: chris jones on September 09, 2015, 09:45:40 am
  I could sit for hours and watch this mans speaches.. His points delight me to no end.
  I can't for the life of me see a neocon agenda, a NWO slant, or negatives I have been watching for decades , the performances of past candidates.
  The one thing he lacks publically is inside information, sure he was not a pol privy to the classified information was he.
  He has been friends with JV, it maybe he has been informed to a degree, however i so he will not use this untill he is available to gov info, inside , info that can only be given to him should he become candidate or president.
 I believe he plays fair but a tough game.   I don't assume he has all of the info,- things may get a tad rattled up if he does.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 09, 2015, 10:01:44 am
Whats the point of the Donald Trump thread? http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=284205.msg1551632;topicseen#msg1551632 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=284205.msg1551632;topicseen#msg1551632)
Did I miss something?
Should all be the same, lots of info on him good or bad in this one  . World messed up enough, we should not split threads. IMO they should be combined. 

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 09, 2015, 10:35:30 am
Whats the point of the Donald Trump thread? http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=284205.msg1551632;topicseen#msg1551632 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=284205.msg1551632;topicseen#msg1551632)
Did I miss something?
Should all be the same, lots of info on him good or bad in this one  . World messed up enough, we should not split threads. IMO they should be combined.

Oh I see now
  It seems weird to me that we have a section for Trump and also a section for the 2016 Election.  I think we also have a separate section for Rand Paul who has become a non-factor.

  I think we should move this thread back to the 2016 Election.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 09, 2015, 11:16:41 am
Did anyone ask Trump to see if he would sign a pledge not to take any orders from Bilderberg meetings or any other Globalist organization(s) ?

If he (Trump) were to do that on Alex's show in front of all the listeners that would be a convincing point for me.

Americans know the Globalist connection in American politics, we need to see Trump upset the Globalist apple-cart if he is going to prove himself serious to libertarians.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on September 09, 2015, 11:49:07 am
Trump wants *us* to take care of illegals pouring over the borders with their hatred and obviously living some dream of taking over the West.

He's the one with the $ billions.  He should take care of them.  Hey Trump - open up a few of your bedrooms to house them hmmm?  Good luck with the stone-agers.

The flip-flopper loves Hillary.   He's pure nwo.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Slackjaw on September 09, 2015, 11:56:44 am
Hardly stone-agers. Have you ever been to Syria? I was there in 2007 and it was virtually first world in urban areas.

The refugees are running from the stone-agers - our mercenary army known as ISIS.

Trump is absolutely correct on this matter, although he fails to realize that Germany is also acting in its own self-interest.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on September 09, 2015, 11:59:33 am
Donald Trump says what people want to hear, but look at his record.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Slackjaw on September 09, 2015, 12:04:10 pm
Donald Trump says what people want to hear, but look at his record.

I don't like Trump but agree with what he says on a couple of issues.

He is a reality TV self-publicist who is likely to have even more skeletons in his closet than Hilary Clinton.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on September 09, 2015, 12:09:26 pm
Hardly stone-agers. Have you ever been to Syria? I was there in 2007 and it was virtually first world in urban areas.

The refugees are running from the stone-agers - our mercenary army known as ISIS.

Trump is absolutely correct on this matter, although he fails to realize that Germany is also acting in its own self-interest.
Then please say why they are throwing rocks, chanting, threatening (and following through), to rape our women?  This is either acts of a stone-age mentality, or enemies of the countries they are flowing into, taking over for the spoils.  This too, is barbaric and a stone-age mentality.  So, from what I am seeing, according to what you have to say (and yes, Syria is a lovely country - or was) it isn't Syrians coming over?  Maybe it *is* the stone-agers army ISIS.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on September 09, 2015, 12:11:39 pm
I know, Trump should charter a big cruise ship and transport the refugees in safety.  Then little kids won't drown.  He can feed them, entertain them, and give them medical care.  Maybe the Pope will chip in and help.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 12, 2015, 12:33:31 pm



… hilarious!   ;D

Trump on Tonight Show:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2DgwPG7mAA#t=41

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/PrisonPlanetForum194/screenshot_878.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/PrisonPlanetForum194/screenshot_878.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 12, 2015, 01:20:28 pm
I find this interesting - despite 24/7 negative press coverage by cnn
( this was in July - but every time I look at CNN they are covering Trump in the negative zone ...
So, the more negative and the more coverage by CNN, the more popular Trump becomes? )
Trump carries on ....

The more the establishment and MSM say one thing the more I move to the opposite ... hmmmm..


http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/despite-a-storm-of-negative-coverage-donald-trump-keeps-rising-in-the-polls/
Despite A Storm Of Negative Coverage  , Donald Trump Keeps Rising In The Polls
 Doug Mataconis   ·   Wednesday, July 1, 2015

see also:

http://americasvoice.org/press_releases/wall-of-negative-coverage-following-trumps-immigration-policy-proposal/
Wall of Negative Coverage [ by CNN ] Following Trump’s Immigration Policy Proposal
by AV Press Releases on August 18, 2015

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 12, 2015, 03:52:25 pm
Uh-huh just as I suspected, he bows to the Globalists and will take orders from them.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on September 12, 2015, 06:29:00 pm
We agree Egypt.   Scroll up to 5 or 6  replies.  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/09/04/trump_just_signed_his_death_warrant_364787.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/09/04/trump_just_signed_his_death_warrant_364787.html)

yeah, i saw. thanks
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: chris jones on September 12, 2015, 06:55:21 pm
I've been cynical of Trump. But this video from 2007 sent chills down my spine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqA2Hs5dTFM
  HI PAC-............THE VID...            AN OLDY BUT A GOODY!
   He called the Iraq invasion for what it was long ago...One of a very few of the faces to take this stand.
  I had the feeling he wasn't deep into the heavy sh**t, the more I have read up on him he just may be well informed.. Not to say he has all the deep down intell but he sure scratches the surface.
  PS.. He is a friend of Jesse V., so, my guess he has been given a few tips along the way.
 

             
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 12, 2015, 10:48:41 pm
 I still see Trump in front and I hope it stays this way!

 I will Vote Trump!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 13, 2015, 09:03:30 am


… here's how the other side really views DONALD TRUMP
and his many supporters/followers … from the Lib-Rag
SALON. Reveals much more about the blindered, 'see-no-evil',
off-the-chart lef-TARDS than about the CORE AMERICAN …
sensible conservatives. MUST READ!


Trump, Sanders and tribalism: Why the Donald’s
dark allure goes deeper than racism and xenophobia

Behind the hateful rhetoric and paranoid fantasies,
Trump conjures up the violent darkness of human history

ANDREW O'HEHIR

EXCERPTS:

"
Trump’s audience is self-evidently and aggressively not interested in truth or reason. His bottomless reservoir of Dionysian, rageaholic bullshit is his greatest strength. That quality may also lead to his defeat, in due course, but not because eggheads with expensive degrees who sit behind desks in New York and Washington say so.

"
It’s all very well to talk about racism and nativism and the distinctive small-mindedness and paranoia of white America, and those things unmistakably nourished the soil from which the Trumpian flower bloomed. But he is tapping into something that runs much deeper than any of that.

"
We thrill at our secret shared understanding that the veneer of civilization, with its “political correctness” and its insistence on facts and reason and the logic of causes and consequences, is basically a scam and that the true nature of human existence is about jamming a nuke up somebody’s ass every so often. And we’ve gotten soft and out of practice!

Quote
What Trump understands, and may genuinely identify with, is the sense of embattled tribal identity found among too many white Americans of the 21st century, the belief that they are “living in a state of war in a small community, the existence of which is continually threatened, and the morality of which is the strictest possible.” What is the highest form of enjoyment to be found in such a community, “for souls which are vigorous, vindictive, malicious, full of suspicion, ready to face the direst events, hardened by privation and morality?” It is “the enjoyment of cruelty,” as Friedrich Nietzsche put it in 1881. “Such a community would find its delight in performing cruel deeds, casting aside, for once, the gloom of constant anxiety and precaution.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/12/trump_sanders_and_tribalism_why_the_donalds_dark_allure_goes_deeper_than_racism_and_xenophobia/

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 13, 2015, 01:57:20 pm
 ^^^^

Nice info Mr. Holly and it shows how naive these nitwits are about Trumps real mission; Which in part is:

1] Stirring the pot in DC!

2] Bringing to light the Issues Americans understand.

3] Telling off the Dopes on Both sides of the DC BS Crowd!

4] Please: Add more of what Trump is putting on the table of truth... ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 13, 2015, 02:14:09 pm
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

… and the RINO Jewish crowd are
no better … taking the occasion to
bad-mouth sensible white conservatives
while lambasting Trump:


BLONDE BLUE-EYED ARYAN for PREZ?
NO WAY, JOSÉ!


"
… despite his surge in the polls, the anti-immigration
hard-liner has strikingly little support among prominent
Republican Jewish donors, activists and consultants.


Donald Trump's Rise Sparks Widespread
Angst Among Jewish Republicans

Josh Nathan-Kazis September 10, 2015

EXCERPTS:


There are a lot of folks who are, to be charitable, into white identity politics, and to be uncharitable are outright racists, who are supporting Trump,” said Nathan Wurtzel, a Republican political consultant and principal at The Catalyst Group, who is Jewish. “It’s very off-putting and disturbing.”

Quote
Many Republican Jewish leaders remain unwilling to speak about Trump. The RJC’s spokesman did not respond to a request to speak for this story; neither did former Republican National Committee chair Ken Mehlman, who is a member of the RJC’s board; former George W. Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer, also an RJC board member, or former Republican House majority leader Eric Cantor, who has been close to the group.

JEWISH SITE: http://forward.com/news/320688/donald-trumps-rise-sparks-widespread-angst-among-jewish-republicans/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 13, 2015, 03:26:29 pm
I am not being anti-Semitic here but given Jewish usefulness to Globalists and the Nefilim in running the global banks, Trump should care less about these people.   What has global banks ever done for America ?   Put their minions in at the FED, engineer our latests RECESSION.

Not all Jews are evil central bankers working for the Globalists & the Nefilim, but a lot of central bankers working for the Nefilim and Globalists are Jewish.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on September 13, 2015, 06:21:15 pm
  HI PAC-............THE VID...            AN OLDY BUT A GOODY!
   He called the Iraq invasion for what it was long ago...One of a very few of the faces to take this stand.
  I had the feeling he wasn't deep into the heavy sh**t, the more I have read up on him he just may be well informed.. Not to say he has all the deep down intell but he sure scratches the surface.
  PS.. He is a friend of Jesse V., so, my guess he has been given a few tips along the way.
 

           

And then he pulls some shit like this.


Trump: ‘Lightweight’ Rand Paul Doesn’t Belong In Debate
"I truly understood the appeal of Ron Paul, but his son didn't get the right gene."

http://www.infowars.com/trump-lightweight-rand-paul-doesnt-belong-in-debate/


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642788749030608896
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642788935530344448
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642790262532612096 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642788749030608896
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642788935530344448
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642790262532612096)

Unite us, unite the clans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sa_OQgWiPA

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/23lnnep.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 14, 2015, 10:11:35 am
Trump needs to prove that he aint going to just take orders from Globalists at Bilderberg, the UN, etc.

Remember Obama told everybody what they wanted to hear too before he got elected.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 14, 2015, 01:51:20 pm
wow, the (NPR) left is really going below the belt now ... connecting trump to "white nationalists" who ever they are ... Notice they first ran the story Sept 3 ... now they repeated it Sept 12th !!!
Reminds me how the communist party CP-USA endorse Obama ...


http://www.npr.org/2015/09/03/437195328/how-white-nationalist-groups-found-their-candidate-in-donald-trump
How White Nationalist Groups Found Their Candidate In Donald Trump
September 03, 2015 1:35 PM ET

Reporter Evan Osnos says the removal of the Confederate flag from South Carolina's state house reinvigorated extremist white-rights groups. Then, he says, "into that moment dropped Donald Trump

transcript ....

TERRY GROSS, HOST:

This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross. When Donald Trump announced his candidacy, my guest, Evan Osnos, was reporting on extremist white rights groups. What he quickly discovered was that Trump's anti-immigration message was resonating with these groups. Osnos writes, quote, "ever since the Tea Party's peak in 2010 and its fade, citizens on the American far-right - patriot militias, border vigilantes, white supremacists - have searched for a standard-bearer, and now they'd found him.

...


|- - - - -

Here they basically repeat the story:

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/12/439186320/fresh-air-weekend-white-nationalists-and-trump-baseballs-intangibles-alison-brie
Fresh Air Weekend: White Nationalists And Trump; Baseball's Intangibles; Alison Brie
September 12, 2015 9:03 AM ET

| - - - -

wayback machine ...

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/cpusa-says-re-electing-obama-is-absolutely-essential/
CPUSA Says Re-electing Obama is “Absolutely Essential”
Cliff Kincaid  —   June 27, 2012 

A writer for the Communist Party USA says that “…re-electing Obama is absolutely essential,” and warns that “divisions among Democrats and a potential wave of bad economic news can combine to threaten President Obama’s reelection.”

Marxist John Case, who writes for various CPUSA publications, has written a piece, “The danger of a Romney election,” for the party publication People’s World, which warns that “Re-electing Obama is not sufficient to bring economic recovery or even relief to our people. Only a different class configuration in political power can do necessary minimum reforms to give us a chance. But re-electing Obama is absolutely essential. Now is not the time for hand washing the complexities and tactics away—or failing to triage the most critical questions from those that are less critical. We cannot win everything at once!”

In reality, the CPUSA’s endorsement of Obama for a second term is not surprising. Various CPUSA officials, including Jarvis Tyner and Joelle Fishman, have openly expressed support for the U.S. President and his agenda.

Since 1988, the CPUSA has not run its own candidates for president and vice-president, preferring instead to work through the Democratic Party. Its support for Obama in 2008 and again this year has been open and outspoken.
...

http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/29/communist-party-usa-chairman-vows-cooperation-with-democratic-party/
Communist Party USA Chairman Vows Cooperation With Democratic Party
Eric Owens
Education Editor
9:10 AM 01/29/2015

The chairman of the National Committee of the Communist Party USA has penned a 2,023-word manifesto making the critical point that American Communists are eager to work with the Democratic Party to advance the modern communist agenda and achieve communist goals.

Communist Party chairman John Bachtell published his essay last week at People’s World, a “daily news website of, for and by the 99% and the direct descendant of the Daily Worker.”
...

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/29/communist-party-usa-chairman-vows-cooperation-with-democratic-party/#ixzz3lk1bV0Ou
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 14, 2015, 02:20:59 pm
The Communist Party, Socialist Party, Green Party, are all branches to the Democrat Party.

Just like the Libertarian Party, and the Conservative Party are branches of the Republican Party.

The Constitution Party, Reform Party and Justice Party act like independent parties.

Just curious as to how the Cyber Party will take off....
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: sipsipaway on September 14, 2015, 06:33:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhERfHaAYKI

Watch live
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 14, 2015, 06:46:06 pm
And then he pulls some shit like this.


Trump: ‘Lightweight’ Rand Paul Doesn’t Belong In Debate
"I truly understood the appeal of Ron Paul, but his son didn't get the right gene."

http://www.infowars.com/trump-lightweight-rand-paul-doesnt-belong-in-debate/


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642788749030608896
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642788935530344448
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642790262532612096 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642788749030608896
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642788935530344448
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642790262532612096)

Unite us, unite the clans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sa_OQgWiPA

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/23lnnep.jpg)
This is what we need: One Clan and Freedom!

...We The People are The Clan!  ;) 8) ;)

..if We fight as One; We win as One...and that is One Clan!

OH! The Brave Heart was true to his Clan: but Bruce was a Traitor: and I believe that Trump is more like Brave Heart than Bruce The Traitor!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on September 14, 2015, 07:28:26 pm
This is what we need: One Clan and Freedom!

...We The People are The Clan!  ;) 8) ;)

..if We fight as One; We win as One...and that is One Clan!

OH! The Brave Heart was true to his Clan: but Bruce was a Traitor: and I believe that Trump is more like Brave Heart than Bruce The Traitor!


Well Trump is a flipflopper right now, much more Bruce than BraveHeart, but Bruce unites them in the end.

He needs to cut the shit on the People who have points that make sense to the People and unite all those People under one banner.

Me thinks his ego won't allow that.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 14, 2015, 09:50:36 pm

Well Trump is a flipflopper right now, much more Bruce than BraveHeart, but Bruce unites them in the end.

He needs to cut the shit on the People who have points that make sense to the People and unite all those People under one banner.

Me thinks his ego won't allow that.

Nice points mate: But I believe that: Trumps 'Ego' has gone away; and he does care about the direction of our would: just as JFK did...and we know what happened to him...

Trump is real to me and my clan, and I pray he is given the White House for all of us, Who want the truth... 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 16, 2015, 10:37:49 am
More of the same negative Trump establishment blahblahblah articles... They really don't want someone who isn't taking bribe money ... Reminds me of Serpico and the NYC_PD ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3dGWoScAnw
City Room: Watching 'Serpico' With Serpico | The New York Times

| -- - -
http://theweek.com/speedreads/577478/anderson-cooper-pulls-plug-trump-speech-coverage-over-lack-specifics
Anderson Cooper pulls the plug on Trump speech coverage over lack of specifics
...
As Trump gave his big foreign policy speech in Iowa, CNN — and Anderson Cooper — decided it'd had just about enough of Trump's empty promises. When Trump once again didn't deliver on specifics, speaking instead "in broad terms about doing good things for the military and veterans," Cooper cut Trump off, Mediaite reports.
...
You can watch Cooper shut down Trump's speech here. —Becca Stanek
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-cuts-away-from-big-trump-speech-after-hearing-no-actual-specifics/#ooid=5mOXFqdzoDYNOYavN05tph8GBCzPPoLd
 September 15th, 2015

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article35343756.html
Letter: Trump lobs insults and empty promises at people
Letters to the Editor    September 16, 2015
...

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-policy-papers-are-empty-gimmicks-365797
Trump’s Policy Papers Are Empty Gimmicks
Peter Suderman  8/26/15 at 6:54 AM

The release of Donald Trump’s immigration policy “white paper” on August 17 has occasioned a flurry of analysis that attempts to pin down exactly how the GOP presidential candidate’s program might or might not work. Much of it is valuable in that it details how  expensive,  awful,  unpopular,  impractical (if not impossible) and downright  inhumane Trump’s ideas (“ideas”)
...




Oh here's Trump in Dallas  stadium FILLED... hmmm ...

http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/donald-trump-brought-the-funk-monday-night-at-the-aac-review-7591521
Donald Trump Brought the Funk Monday Night at the AAC (Review)
By Stephen Young
Tuesday, September 15, 2015

(http://images1.dallasobserver.com/imager/u/original/7592459/150914155donald-trump-dallas.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: PeaceAndFreedom on September 16, 2015, 11:18:06 am
The Communist Party, Socialist Party, Green Party, are all branches to the Democrat Party.

Just like the Libertarian Party, and the Conservative Party are branches of the Republican Party.

The Constitution Party, Reform Party and Justice Party act like independent parties.

Just curious as to how the Cyber Party will take off....

Correction, the Libertarian Party is not a branch of the GOP. It was in fact created in 1971 in reaction to the bad policies of the Republican Party and its then US President (Nixon) in going off the gold standard, and imposing wage and price controls.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 16, 2015, 01:44:42 pm
Now I know Trump's hit a nerve .... in Portlandia

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/LGlUvPx.gif)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3236927/Artist-fires-presidential-candidate-Donald-Trump-s-outrageous-sexist-comments-painting-portrait-using-menstrual-blood-tampon.html
Artist uses her menstrual blood and a tampon to paint a portrait of Donald Trump in protest at the presidential candidate's 'outrageous' and 'sexist' comments
Sarah Levy was upset by Trump's comments implying that Megyn Kelly was hormonal during the Republican debate
She used a tampon and paintbrush to create the portrait, which she titled 'Whatever'
The Portland, Oregon, resident plans to auction the piece off to raise money for an immigrants' rights organization

By Carly Stern For Dailymail.com

Published: 11:07 EST, 16 September 2015
...


Eyebrow-raising artwork: Portland-based artist Sarah Levy painted this portrait of Donald Trump in her menstrual blood


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: chris jones on September 19, 2015, 09:14:37 pm
Donald Trump 2016 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=269494.120)
  DT hits back, NICELY..........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArTc5YhSCQI
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 19, 2015, 09:38:09 pm
  DT hits back, NICELY..........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArTc5YhSCQI

NICE!  That felt good!   ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: chris jones on September 22, 2015, 11:29:10 am
 I understnd the ridicule, however this guy was against Nam & Iraq..
Some say he is an elite suckbag, how many other faces  publically stood up to these wars ?(abominations).
  My guess, he is not fond of warmongers.            ( I agree he is not politally correct.)
I do like some of the other candidates but I am convinced despite some of his comments he actually cares America & the people and will fight for this nation.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on September 22, 2015, 11:51:59 am
Now I know Trump's hit a nerve .... in Portlandia

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/LGlUvPx.gif)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3236927/Artist-fires-presidential-candidate-Donald-Trump-s-outrageous-sexist-comments-painting-portrait-using-menstrual-blood-tampon.html
Artist uses her menstrual blood and a tampon to paint a portrait of Donald Trump in protest at the presidential candidate's 'outrageous' and 'sexist' comments
Sarah Levy was upset by Trump's comments implying that Megyn Kelly was hormonal during the Republican debate
She used a tampon and paintbrush to create the portrait, which she titled 'Whatever'
The Portland, Oregon, resident plans to auction the piece off to raise money for an immigrants' rights organization

By Carly Stern For Dailymail.com

Published: 11:07 EST, 16 September 2015
...


Eyebrow-raising artwork: Portland-based artist Sarah Levy painted this portrait of Donald Trump in her menstrual blood

Pure Demonic Behavior to use this medium to paint a portrait - plain and simple.  There are many other ways to make a point, express one's view and show one's mind.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 22, 2015, 12:30:20 pm
it is interesting Rand Paul could not get his named mentioned on MSM as even a prez candidate ... while trump gets 24/7 negative coverage on cnn et al ...

https://adask.wordpress.com/2015/07/25/murdoch-msm-vs-trump/
Murdoch & MSM vs Trump
...
Trump and Murdoch aren’t pals.

“Now, as Mr. Trump holds on to a first-place position in the polls while being roundly denounced across the political spectrum for harsh statements about Mexican immigrants [the NYTimes meant to say, “illegal aliens”] and for belittling Senator John McCain’s war record, he has already lost the man who controls many of the nation’s most important media organizations.”

It’s true.  Trump is being “roundly denounced” by politicians and mainstream media outlets across the country.

In fact, the only group who’s not “roundly denouncing” Mr. Trump is the American people.
...

If Mr. Trump is embarrassing some Americans, he’s also inspiring lots more.

Why?

Because he’s trying to tell the truth.  He’s not “playing it smart” (like virtually every other candidate). He’s not triangulating and calculating each of his public statements.  He’s trying to play it honest.

Because Trump’s trying to serve the best interests of the people rather than the special interests of the oligarchs and New World Order advocates like Rupert Murdoch.
...

Can you remember any other political candidate ever . . . who inspired as much instant negative mainstream media commentary . . . in less than three weeks after Trump announced his candidacy?

David Duke was treated with more respect.   George Wallace was treated with more respect.

...

•  Some people think Trump’s candidacy is part of a conspiracy intended to serve the Jews or Hillary Clinton or whoever by Trump’s ability to split the Republican Party and guarantee a Democrat victory in next year’s election.

I doubt that’s true.

I think that the mainstream media’s instant, repeated and venomous attacks on Trump are evidence that he really is a populist interested in the America’s best interests rather than the special interests of government and the elite.

Trump scares the elitists because he’s one of them, but he’s not with them.

Trump scares the government, Republican and Democrat leadership because he could win.

Worse, he could win without the elitist’s support and without being obligated to them.

Worse than that, Trump seems determined to try to tell the truth.  If so, he’s the natural nemesis of all liars in politics and all liars in mainstream media.

More, most Americans are so distrustful of the MSM that the MSM’s virulent condemnation of trump will only work in his favor.

The more I see the mainstream media condemn Trump, the more convinced I become that he’s the one candidate in the entire spectrum who’s determined to serve this nation’s best interests rather than the elite’s special interests.

If so, he’d better watch his step, avoid riding in convertibles, or he might get shot by a “lone wetback”.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 22, 2015, 02:09:11 pm
Until Trump signs a NO GLOBALISTS PEDGE all he is to me is just another globalist showman there to tell the people what they want to hear.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 22, 2015, 02:40:50 pm
Oh the trump muslim question prankster ... why have they not found this guy for an interview?  Why has he not come forward ?

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/22/inside-edition-was-trump-muslim-questioner-a-plant/
‘Inside Edition': Was Trump Muslim Questioner a Plant?
by Breitbart TV22 Sep 20152,059

On Monday’s broadcast of the syndicated show “Inside Edition,” the question was asked who exactly was the questioner at last week’s rally in New Hampshire that asked GOP front-runner Donald Trump about the Muslim problem in the United States and said that President Barack Obama was a Muslim.

The report suggested there was a possibility it may have been a plant intended to embarrass Trump.

The man in question garbled his name, but said he was from White Plains. According to the report, the only White Plains in the United States is White Plains, NY, which is 250 miles From New Hampshire.

“Inside Edition” asked audio expert Kent Gibson if he could make out the man’s name, but said the mic wasn’t there yet and he couldn’t make out the name of the man.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 22, 2015, 08:24:20 pm
 Trump is in this mix for a Victory---and I believe he will Win---Because the American people want a Man in Charge who speaks his mind and knows what to do with cash---on a Global scale!

 The man is still in front, according to Polls, and I pray it stays this way!


...and remember---he speaks his mind and he owes nobody anything!

...he wants to make America Great again---and I am all for this move!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: sipsipaway on September 22, 2015, 08:44:22 pm
Last week  Trump admitted vaccines cause autism. Go Trump tell the truth!!!!!

donald-trump-and-vaccines-are-vaccines-linked-to-autism

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 23, 2015, 12:21:40 am
Last week  Trump admitted vaccines cause autism. Go Trump tell the truth!!!!!

donald-trump-and-vaccines-are-vaccines-linked-to-autism

  ;) Trump knows more than he is saying--but he will bring truth to the light!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: chris jones on September 23, 2015, 04:15:01 pm

  ;) Trump knows more than he is saying--but he will bring truth to the light!
  iamac, I agree, he knows a hell of a lot more!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 27, 2015, 09:33:58 pm


… billionaire presidential candidate
says: TAX THE RICH!


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_893.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_893.jpg.html)
Sean Rayford / Getty Images

DONALD TRUMP: CUT TAXES ON MIDDLE CLASS,
END TAX BREAKS FOR BILLIONAIRES ON WALL STREET

by MATTHEW BOYLE  27 Sep 2015

Billionaire Donald Trump, current GOP primary frontrunner, laid out the beginnings of his tax plan for if he’s elected President of the United States on 60 Minutes on CBS News with Scott Pelley on Sunday evening.

“It’s a substantial reduction for the middle-income people,” Trump said when asked about his tax plan. “Because our middle class, Scott, is being absolutely decimated. It will be a corporate also reduction, I think it’ll be a great incentive for corporations.”

" … he would raise taxes on some
of the very wealthy in America."


Quote
Pelley asked how Trump would succeed in doing this with a $19 trillion federal debt, to which Trump explained that “we’re going to grow the economy so much” it will be able to pay for it.

  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/27/donald-trump-cut-taxes-on-middle-class-end-tax-breaks-for-billionaires-on-wall-street/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on September 28, 2015, 11:00:44 am
OMG just what the people want to hear....

Oh Thank you Mr. Trump !!!!!!!!!!!!



Put on the glasses man !!!!!


 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 28, 2015, 02:27:12 pm

… billionaire presidential candidate
says: TAX THE RICH!


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_893.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_893.jpg.html)
Sean Rayford / Getty Images

DONALD TRUMP: CUT TAXES ON MIDDLE CLASS,
END TAX BREAKS FOR BILLIONAIRES ON WALL STREET

by MATTHEW BOYLE  27 Sep 2015

Billionaire Donald Trump, current GOP primary frontrunner, laid out the beginnings of his tax plan for if he’s elected President of the United States on 60 Minutes on CBS News with Scott Pelley on Sunday evening.

“It’s a substantial reduction for the middle-income people,” Trump said when asked about his tax plan. “Because our middle class, Scott, is being absolutely decimated. It will be a corporate also reduction, I think it’ll be a great incentive for corporations.”

" … he would raise taxes on some
of the very wealthy in America."


  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/27/donald-trump-cut-taxes-on-middle-class-end-tax-breaks-for-billionaires-on-wall-street/

Sounds like standard republican bulls**t. But then he did sign on for puppet hood.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 28, 2015, 04:09:47 pm
Sounds like standard republican bulls**t. But then he did sign on for puppet hood.

^^^^^^^

… but then, GEORGE WASHINGTON, "… was the richest man in America"
in the 1780s. Worth over $525M … over a BILLION in 21st C $$$.



Here's the TOP TEN richest presidents:

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_897.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_897.jpg.html)




  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_net_worth

http://www.hermes-press.com/completing.htm
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 28, 2015, 04:37:15 pm
^^^^^^^^^^ interesting is there a list on the poorest?
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on September 28, 2015, 05:22:13 pm
If anyone can find any hint of Donald Chump saying 9/11 was an inside job, or there is such a thing as The New World Order.

An opposition leader of a G7 country has said that !!!
So why does'nt Donald Chump - or other canidates plz let me know.

Detect a wiff of sarcasm ?
You bettcha
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 28, 2015, 05:57:11 pm
^^^^^^^^^^ interesting is there a list on the poorest?

On that wikipedia link, it shows nine prez's worth less
that $1M … shows HARRY TRUMAN with least wealth.   ???

This is all interesting … the net worth of presidents …
gives some perspective on Trump having such deep
pockets. For some reason, I believe him when he says
he will raise taxes on the wealthy … he is paying for
his own campaign … he will have no debts to the
"donor class".
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 28, 2015, 08:41:12 pm
If anyone can find any hint of Donald Chump saying 9/11 was an inside job, or there is such a thing as The New World Order.

An opposition leader of a G7 country has said that !!!
So why does'nt Donald Chump - or other canidates plz let me know.

Detect a wiff of sarcasm ?
You bettcha
Mate: I can NOT give ya proof at this point in time, that Trump knows about The NWO: But, my friend I think he knows more than he tells folks at this phase of the game  ;)

...I let time roll on...and Trump is in the roll.. 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 28, 2015, 08:49:28 pm
^^^^


… yep. You would think that owners of BIG buildings
would be very interested in what 'came down' on 9/11.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on September 28, 2015, 09:11:32 pm
Mr. Holly; I pray that Trump comes out and shows us he is a Truth Seeker!

..I hear what the man is saying---and he make me think about President JFK--a man from the inside, that is NOW for We The People!

...Trump knows more than he is showing  ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 29, 2015, 09:23:00 pm


… Holy Cow!

Teamsters Withhold Endorsement for Hillary
Want to Meet With Donald Trump

Jim Hoft   Sep 29th, 2015 5:45 pm

Teamsters officials met behind closed doors today. The union refused to endorse Hillary Clinton for president.
The officials told FOX News they want to meet with Donald Trump.
James Rosen reported:

FOX News has learned exclusively the 26 member board decided unanimously to withhold a presidential endorsement… Union executives told me they want to sit down with Republican candidates, most noatably, front-runner Donald Trump who has collaborated with unionized work forces across his real estate career.

YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6tot9T6ims

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/breaking-video-teamsters-withhold-endorsement-for-hillary-want-to-meet-with-donald-trump/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 09:32:47 am
^^^^^^^^^^

  This will be big.  A lot of these people VOTE.

  They don't want to be backing HILLARY THE CROOK.  AKA Hillary the Lesbian.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 09:41:24 am
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/29/donald-trump-morphs-into-a-real-candidate/



‘Teflon Don’ morphs into a real candidate

With each failure to destroy Donald Trump, the political experts and establishment stooges only made him stronger. And now they don’t have a clue what to do.

Those in Washington who still think a Donald Trump presidency is preposterous or absurd have only themselves to blame for creating an environment that has made it so easy for the swashbuckling, smack-talking businessman to rise so effortlessly to the top of the heap.

It turns out that not only does the man enjoy very high energy, he also has incredible stamina. His staying power is a-MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZ-ing. Mr. Trump is outlasting all of his harshest critics and is now outlasting some of the surest favorites running for the Republican nomination.

Scott Walker was the man to beat. He was a professional political expert with executive experience. He had won real political battles. And he accomplished all that without enduring the political mark of Cain: residing in Washington.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 30, 2015, 12:03:23 pm
Quote
Donald Trump’s tax plan was revealed with a message for millions of Americans: “You win!”

But like everything linked to taxes, not everyone would win equally under his plan, which the Republican presidential candidate says is geared toward providing tax relief for the middle class and giving the U.S. economy a boost by lowering business income taxes.

To be sure, there’s a long road ahead before the general election in November 2016, but Trump’s proposal raises evergreen questions about the country’s tax system, such as why it’s so complicated and whether struggling middle-class families should get more of a break. Trump’s plan is geared to appeal to his supporters, one-third of whom earn less than $50,000 a year -- the group that the candidate claims would benefit the most from his plan.

Related: Trump Vows Lower Tax Rates, Deep Spending Cuts

Yet, the biggest winners under Trump’s plan would be, well, people just like Trump: America’s richest citizens. That’s because he’s proposing a big reduction in income taxes for married couples earning at least $300,000, as well as a plan to eliminate the estate tax, which only kicks in at about $10 million per couplesaid Edward Zelinsky, a law professor at the Cardozo School of Law, who specializes in tax issues.

“The truth is most lower income folks don’t pay tax in our system today anyway,” Zelinsky said, who added that Trump is claiming to remove people from the tax rolls who already don’t pay much, if anything, in federal tax. “Thanks to the earned income tax credit and standard exemptions, roughly half of Americans don’t pay significant income taxes.”

Trump’s plan is “really good for high income tax payers,” he added.

One caveat: Trump’s four-page proposal is short on details. As a result, some issues are unclear, such as his assertion that many deductions would be eliminated, although his plan maintains deductions for charitable giving and mortgage interest, which are two of Americans’ most popular deductions

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-tax-plan-affect-184900354.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-tax-plan-affect-184900354.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 12:17:24 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/09/30/suffolk-poll-republicans-trump-carson-fiorina/73035550/

Poll: Donald Trump still on top as outsiders Fiorina, Carson rise


WASHINGTON — Billionaire businessman Donald Trump has strengthened his lead at the top of the USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll while two other outsider candidates, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina, have gained ground over rivals with electoral experience.

Jeb Bush, who two months ago was second to Trump in the USA TODAY survey, has tumbled to single digits and fifth place. The third-place finisher last time, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, suspended his campaign entirely this month.

"Unfortunately, I'm leaning toward Trump, only because he's a non-political figure," says Ginger Mangam, 58, a customer-service representative from Little Rock, Ark., who was among those surveyed. Asked about his lack of electoral experience, she replies: "I don't think it's a problem; I think it's a message."

Anthony Edelen, 37, a small-business owner from Vermillion, S.D., likes what he hears from Trump and Fiorina. "I just want somebody who is going to move our country in a direction different from where it is currently," he said in a follow-up interview.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 12:21:02 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/30/donald-trump-unleashes-ire-at-marco-rubio/

  excerpt from the article...


Donald Trump Unleashes Ire at Marco Rubio

While both claim to be seeking a high-minded campaign, their recent exchanges show they are more than happy to sling some dirt.

To recap their recent barrage of barbs, Mr. Trump has called Mr. Rubio:

“Totally controlled by lobbyists and special interests.”
“A lightweight senator with the worst voting record in the senate.”
“All talk and no action.”
“Weak” on illegal immigration.
“Senator Marco ‘Amnesty’ Rubio.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 07:21:41 pm
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-tax-plan-affect-184900354.html

  excerpt below....

  This article does not sway me from Trump.  BUILD THE FENCE DONALD AND REBUILD AMERICA.

  My best friend lives in Colorado.  A fellow surgeon.  In fact they are a family of retired surgeons.  Don't be fooled.  No matter who is president, the rich will find ways to LEGALLY beat the tax system.  This family is worth nearly 3 billion dollars.  Their head accountant gets paid $1,000,000 a year.  You want to know why?  Because last year they saved the family $48,000,000.  All legal tax breaks.  THE SMART RICH WILL ALWAYS BEAT THE SYSTEM. 

Here’s How Trump’s Tax Plan Would Affect You


Yet the biggest winners under Trump’s plan would be, well, people just like Trump: America’s richest citizens.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on September 30, 2015, 07:30:21 pm
why should i care about an oligarch running for office ?

will best friend of democrat clintons save republican party ?

maybe the best thing donald has done is expose paul as a weak candidate nothing like his father


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 07:31:44 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/30/mitt-romney-donald-trump-wont-win-gop-nomination/

LOSER MITT ROMNEY: DONALD TRUMP WON’T WIN GOP NOMINATION


Failed establishment Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney does not think frontrunner Donald Trump will win the party’s presidential nomination.

“I will support the Republican nominee. I don’t think that’s going to be Donald Trump,” Romney reportedly said at The Atlantic‘s Washington Ideas Forum Wednesday. “My party has historically nominated someone who’s a mainstream conservative.”

Romney added that he would not “disqualify someone just because they hadn’t served in Washington or hadn’t served in a state house,” but predicted that though “there’s a lot of attention given to the insurgent bracket… you’re going to see one or two people emerge on the [establishment] side.”

Trump has blistered Romney for giving away an election in 2012 that Republicans should have won.



Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on September 30, 2015, 09:04:14 pm
Trump Sounds Like Obama & Hillary on NAFTA

Quote
During his interview which aired on 60 Minutes last night, Donald Trump declared NAFTA "a disaster" and went on to say "we will either renegotiate it or we will break it."

If you remembering hearing this before, you are right

Quote
In her debate with Obama in Cleveland in February 2008, Hillary stated, "I will say we will opt out of NAFTA unless we renegotiate it, and we renegotiate on terms that are favorable to all of America.

also

Quote
For his part, Obama stated, "One of the first things I’ll do as President will be to call the Prime Minister of Canada and the President of Mexico and work with them to fix NAFTA." During the Ohio primary, Obama called NAFTA "devastating" and "a big mistake."

of course after winning the election

Quote
These days, Obama is downright enthusiatic about free trade with his support for TPP.

anyone wants to
 read article
http://spectator.org/blog/64199/trump-sounds-obama-hillary-nafta (http://spectator.org/blog/64199/trump-sounds-obama-hillary-nafta)

puppets  all of em   puppets.

Quote
The last thing Republican voters should want is a candidate who emulates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on trade.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 09:21:54 pm
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/new-hampshire-trump-puts-syrian-refugees-notice-n436616

  video at the link....BRAVO TRUMP.


In New Hampshire, Donald Trump Puts Syrian Refugees 'on Notice'

Trump: I'll Deport Syrians Because 'They Could be ISIS'
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on September 30, 2015, 09:30:44 pm


That's it! I am voting for this guy!

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 09:31:06 pm
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/30/carl-icahn-no-brainer-to-elect-trump-president.html

 

Carl Icahn: 'No-brainer' to elect Trump president


Activist investor Carl Icahn doubled down on his support for his friend and presidential candidate Donald Trump on Wednesday.

Icahn contended that electing the controversial billionaire businessman would be a "no-brainer" for American voters. He echoed the anti-establishment sentiment that took Trump to the top of the polling for the Republican presidential nomination this summer.

"I think he has a chance. He's sending a message to the middle class," Icahn said on CNBC's "Fast Money: Halftime Report." "I don't know why you wouldn't vote for someone with that message."
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on September 30, 2015, 09:40:00 pm
http://rense.com/general96/imminvasion.html

Immigration Invasion -
Only Trump Speaks Up For Americans

 


Donald Trump shook-up all presidential candidates with a stand against illegal immigration.  Ironically, all of the democratic and republican candidates failed our Constitution in the past—and if you like to bet—those same candidates on both sides of the aisle would continue to allow the invasion of our country.
 
For the first time in eight years, we celebrate a red blooded, true-blue American running for the office of the president.
 
He’s against illegal immigration. He promised to bring the hammer down on illegals, their employers and Mexico itself.  He demands better trade deals from China.  He put other nations on notice.  That’s why Trump now leads in the polls, which created a snit in the mainstream media and everyone feeding off the trough of illegal and legal immigration.
 

I like what Clash Daily writer Doug Giles said, “What unmistakably comes across when I watch Donald is not only are his wife and daughter gorgeous, but he loves America and he hates those that hate us, our freedoms, our founding docs, our prosperity and our national security; and he is not nice about it.  He’s not trying to be everybody’s buddy. He’s not worried if some CNN piss-ant doesn’t like his “tone”.  Trump understands we’re economically, militarily and culturally screwed and our day doesn’t need another politically correct weathervane but a patriotic lightning rod to lead us.”
 
The fact remains: illegal aliens kill thousands of Americans while raping our women and stealing from all of us.  They distribute drugs, shoplift and displace our working poor.  They get away with it because of 276 “sanctuary cities” along with our Congress and president twiddle their thumbs while the big corporation money pays bribes to keep it going.  Top firms like www.FairUS.org show that an average of 500,000 to 700,000 illegal aliens STILL jump our borders every year.  Obama makes sure none of them face deportation and continues his amnesty agenda.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 01, 2015, 03:50:40 am
http://rense.com/general96/imminvasion.html

Immigration Invasion -
Only Trump Speaks Up For Americans

 


Donald Trump shook-up all presidential candidates with a stand against illegal immigration.  Ironically, all of the democratic and republican candidates failed our Constitution in the past—and if you like to bet—those same candidates on both sides of the aisle would continue to allow the invasion of our country.
 
For the first time in eight years, we celebrate a red blooded, true-blue American running for the office of the president.
 
He’s against illegal immigration. He promised to bring the hammer down on illegals, their employers and Mexico itself.  He demands better trade deals from China.  He put other nations on notice.  That’s why Trump now leads in the polls, which created a snit in the mainstream media and everyone feeding off the trough of illegal and legal immigration.
 

I like what Clash Daily writer Doug Giles said, “What unmistakably comes across when I watch Donald is not only are his wife and daughter gorgeous, but he loves America and he hates those that hate us, our freedoms, our founding docs, our prosperity and our national security; and he is not nice about it.  He’s not trying to be everybody’s buddy. He’s not worried if some CNN piss-ant doesn’t like his “tone”.  Trump understands we’re economically, militarily and culturally screwed and our day doesn’t need another politically correct weathervane but a patriotic lightning rod to lead us.”
 
The fact remains: illegal aliens kill thousands of Americans while raping our women and stealing from all of us.  They distribute drugs, shoplift and displace our working poor.  They get away with it because of 276 “sanctuary cities” along with our Congress and president twiddle their thumbs while the big corporation money pays bribes to keep it going.  Top firms like www.FairUS.org show that an average of 500,000 to 700,000 illegal aliens STILL jump our borders every year.  Obama makes sure none of them face deportation and continues his amnesty agenda.
Doc. I'm with ya! Trump is the Man!  8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 01, 2015, 11:17:26 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/10/01/morning-plum-donald-trump-is-just-getting-started-republicans/

 

Donald Trump is just getting started, Republicans

I’m telling you, folks, if you think Donald Trump’s demagoguery on immigration has created problems for Republicans, just wait until he unveils his next act. If we get a Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal, Trump may well roll out a whole new story about how Republicans and Democrats alike are conspiring with a shadowy cabal of international elites to help China and other foreign countries continue destroying the living standards of American workers.

It turns out Republicans are very worried about this.

The New York Times reports this morning that talks have resumed on the massive Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal. This is often cast as a divisive issue in the Democratic presidential primary, which it certainly could end up being. But as I’ve argued, it could also produce serious divisions in the GOP presidential primary. Though it has received surprisingly little attention, Trump has previously attacked the TPP, and the Times’ Jackie Calmes makes these crucial points:

Even if agreement is reached this week, Congress will not debate and vote on it until late winter
— in the heat of the states’ presidential nominating contests — because by law Mr. Obama cannot sign the deal without giving lawmakers 90 days’ notice.

…it is the rhetoric of Mr. Trump, given his celebrity appeal, that has Republican leaders more worried that a toxic trade debate could threaten vulnerable Republicans in 2016.

The TPP may be debated in Congress precisely when the voting is fully underway in the GOP presidential primaries. And Republican leaders are worried that Trump’s rhetoric against “free trade” will create complications for the party’s Senate incumbents, who would presumably want to vote to pass the deal. But that’s not all: the TPP could also provide Trump with a weapon to wield against his GOP rivals. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio support it. By contrast, Trump has railed against the TPP by warning that China will be given back-door access to the deal, further enabling China’s ongoing ripoff of American workers, and against international “free trade” deals in general by claiming we are being “defrauded” by other countries.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 01, 2015, 11:54:53 am
trump is an oligarch

i am horrified that people who claim to be awake support Donald Trump
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 01, 2015, 12:04:32 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeb-bush-trade-insults-over-151134478.html

Donald Trump and Jeb Bush trade insults over style, Syria


The war of words between Jeb Bush and Donald Trump showed no signs of calming down Wednesday night, with the former Florida governor uncharacteristically going on the offensive.

The last time the two GOP presidential candidates had dueling town halls in New Hampshire, the billionaire mogul mocked Bush for what he called a lack of energy — a charge that seemed to stick when one of Bush’s supporters was seen sleeping during his speech. This time, Bush blasted Trump as a thin-skinned showman who has displayed “big-dog, loud-talking, insulting leadership.”

“Donald seems to have a harder time taking criticism. And he probably needs to put on his big-boy pants too,” Bush said at a campaign event in Bedford. “He’s running for president of the United States. He ought to take a little incoming. He’s great at giving it out.

"If you’re looking for the big guy on the stage, talking in the first-person singular — ‘I, I, I, me, me, me it’s all about me’ — I’m not good at that,” the former governor continued. “My energy comes from helping people have a chance to live the lives that they want.”

Bush added: “You don’t win by telling people how stupid they are.”

Fifty miles west, in Keene, Trump mocked the turnout for Bush.

“Jeb Bush is down the road tonight — they’re expecting 150 people,” Trump told a crowd of more than 3,500.

For the record, it was about 200, according to Bush’s campaign.

Trump also called Bush’s friendship with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who was the state’s House speaker when Bush was governor, “political bulls—.”

“They hate each other,” Trump said.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 01, 2015, 12:06:56 pm
Good news but to bad Trump does not understand the party is bigger than the man, Good guy good  ideas, made one big mistake, signing the no 3rd party pledge.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 01, 2015, 12:18:40 pm
trump is an oligarch

i am horrified that people who claim to be awake support Donald Trump

I understand my friend but at this point what do people have to latch on to? The psychology of the cult of personality unfortunately wins and sadly I don't see a better option, right now.

I hope this leopard has changed his spots.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on October 01, 2015, 12:23:12 pm
Trump needs to prove ahead-of-time he is a Natural Born Citizen and is qualified to run for President.
Trump needs to address & clarify his stance on:

1.  Constitution of the United States of America
2.  Free speech
3.  Church & State being separate
4.  State's Rights
5.  Abortion
6.  Foreign Policy
7.  Welfare
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 01, 2015, 01:03:00 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-gives-russias-putin-an-a-in-leadership/

  I would imagine that Trump would give Obama a D or F.  Obama and Kerry are acting like deer in headlights.


Donald Trump gives Russia's Putin an 'A' in leadership

As Russian war planes begin air strikes over Syria, Donald Trump is giving his approval to Vladimir Putin and his intervention in the battle-ravaged country.

"Putin is now taking over what we started and he's going into Syria, and he frankly wants to fight ISIS, and I think that's a wonderful thing," Trump told Fox News Tuesday, after ending his boycott against the network. "If he wants to fight ISIS, let him fight ISIS. Why do we always have to do everything?"
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 01, 2015, 01:22:24 pm
^^^
Quote
Why do we always have to do everything?"
 

That's good Mr. Trump.   Keep our noses out of it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 01, 2015, 01:39:17 pm
^^^ 

That's good Mr. Trump.   Keep our noses out of it.

  +1
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 01, 2015, 04:38:26 pm
http://conservativeintel.com/2015/10/01/tumpleadingasteamsterswantmeeting/


Trump Leading by 27% in Union Stronghold as Teamsters Want Meeting and Unions Abandon Hillary

Reports say that the influential Teamsters union may snub Hillary Clinton in favor of endorsing a Republican candidate such as Donald Trump for the White House in 2016.

Such a move would likely be a notable boost for Republicans with Independents and “Reagan Democrats,” a critical segment of swing-voters that candidates spend millions trying to woo. These “middle of the road” type voters are crucial to winning bellwether regions like Michigan’s Macomb County.

Clinton also faces snubs from other powerful unions like the AFL-CIO and AFSCME, refusing to back Hillary as they try to push Vice President Joe Biden into the race.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 02, 2015, 05:19:48 am
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-gives-russias-putin-an-a-in-leadership/

  I would imagine that Trump would give Obama a D or F.  Obama and Kerry are acting like deer in headlights.


Donald Trump gives Russia's Putin an 'A' in leadership

As Russian war planes begin air strikes over Syria, Donald Trump is giving his approval to Vladimir Putin and his intervention in the battle-ravaged country.

"Putin is now taking over what we started and he's going into Syria, and he frankly wants to fight ISIS, and I think that's a wonderful thing," Trump told Fox News Tuesday, after ending his boycott against the network. "If he wants to fight ISIS, let him fight ISIS. Why do we always have to do everything?"
Trump was Right again; as on FOX & Friends [10-1-15] when he told the hosts that: "WE, the USA DO NOT even Know who is fighting with us or against us!" Trump also said: 'who are these Rebels? we don't know!' then he said: 'let's take our time and see what happens: because we have already messed up The Middle East!'

Trump knows more than he is letting on right now: but he will continue to shock the establishment!


once again; Spot On info. Doc. 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 02, 2015, 10:04:41 am
From the maker of OBEEZY, KEEP THE CLUBS SWINGIN",

its

lol

Trump C.R.E.A.M Cash Rules Everything Around Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9WYe-93iDg


Keep The Clubs Swingin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSouLdlLT8o
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 02, 2015, 10:33:14 am
Trump when asked if his poll numbers begin to tank what would he do.
His response...Drop out.   

Quote
The multi-billionaire businessman and GOP presidential frontrunner is riding high in the polls. He issues pronouncements nearly every day about his brilliance as a leader and negotiator. And he gleefully mocks rivals like Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham for trailing so badly in the race for the GOP presidential nomination.But what will he do when his campaign hits a rough patch — as all campaigns do — and he begins to slip in the polls?

Rather than pull up his socks and double his efforts, Trump said on Thursday that he probably would pull out of the race if he began to seriously tank in the polls.

“I’m not a masochist,” Trump said in an interview with CNBC’s John Harwood. “Right now, I’m leading every poll, in most cases big. . . If that changed, if I was like some of these people at 1 percent or 2 percent, there’s no reason to move forward . . . If I tank, sure, I go back to business. Why wouldn’t I?”

For a while, Republican Party officials fretted that Trump might mount a third party or independent candidacy for president if he concluded he was being mistreated by the GOP. But that fear dissipated in early September after Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus convinced Trump to sign a party loyalty oath, vowing to support the Republican presidential nominee even if it turns out to be someone other than Trump
 

 With the polls controlled like everything else, he will tank.  YOU'RE soon to be FIRED by the republican party. Entertaining (?) while it lasted.

complete article:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-explains-him-presidential-race-231100488.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-explains-him-presidential-race-231100488.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 02, 2015, 07:05:09 pm
 I do not believe Trump will ever Drop Out of this Race! why? because he will keep his lead in the Polls and others will Drop Out!

In my opinion Trump is running to the end---as he does have a Heart for America!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 03, 2015, 09:25:14 am
Trump when asked if his poll numbers begin to tank what would he do.
His response...Drop out.   
 

 With the polls controlled like everything else, he will tank.  YOU'RE soon to be FIRED by the republican party. Entertaining (?) while it lasted.

complete article:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-explains-him-presidential-race-231100488.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-explains-him-presidential-race-231100488.html)


^^^^^That's quick
Quote
BOOM!! TRUMP FALLS BELOW CARSON in newest poll!!!

Read more: http://therightscoop.com/boom-trump-falls-below-carson-in-newest-poll/#ixzz3nW0bCyfG
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 03, 2015, 09:49:03 am

^^^^^That's quick

It took Congress longer to fall in approval and all they did was destroy the country. What did Trump do?
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: PeaceAndFreedom on October 03, 2015, 10:20:51 am
It took Congress longer to fall in approval and all they did was destroy the country. What did Trump do?

It could be a faulty or bogus 'false flag' poll. It only sampled 377 people, not all of them being Republican. The point may have been to engineer a Trump dip so that the media can use it as a pretext talk it up as a "collapse" over the weekend news cycle, to steer public opinion into believing that's the case. In which case, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 03, 2015, 11:33:34 am
377 sounds a wee bit suspicious

besides if we go back and read the FULL text, it was aimed at the other candidates in the contest who are polling single digits
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 03, 2015, 12:06:37 pm
Quote
[b The point may have been to engineer a Trump dip [/b]so that the media can use it as a pretext talk it up as a "collapse" over the weekend news cycle, to steer public opinion into believing that's the case. In which case, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Yup  that's what I see....The point may have been to engineer a Trump dip  Republicans do not want him as their nominee plain and simple.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 03, 2015, 12:23:59 pm


… obviously, just giving the MSM some talkin'
points for their talkin' heads. However, Carson
is steady, measured, KÒÒL and likable … plus
he is black which, realistically, is a PLUS in
today's America.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 03, 2015, 12:26:34 pm
^^^^^ Looking good for him(Carson) however he would never get my vote, because of 1,(2) main issues, he's all for mandatory vaccines. And republican.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 03, 2015, 01:02:28 pm
It could be a faulty or bogus 'false flag' poll. It only sampled 377 people, not all of them being Republican. The point may have been to engineer a Trump dip so that the media can use it as a pretext talk it up as a "collapse" over the weekend news cycle, to steer public opinion into believing that's the case. In which case, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It was kind of a rhetorical question but, who in their right mind, who has been just remotely following whats been going on with Trump, would actually believe he would sink faster then a floating brick tied to a lead weight?

I don't think the Attention Deficit Disorder of the public has has hit critical mass.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 03, 2015, 01:08:06 pm
It was kind of a rhetorical question but, who in their right mind, who has been just remotely following whats been going on with Trump, would actually believe he would sink faster then a floating brick tied to a lead weight?

I don't think the Attention Deficit Disorder of the public has has hit critical mass.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 03, 2015, 01:29:18 pm
^^^^ I must of hit the post button  before ready sorry about that:

 American sheeple who follow main stream media that's who.  Everyone in here should understand the polls like the news and most any news outlets are controlled, and display what or how they want the sheep to "feel" in the know.

I believe that Trump has good ideas,   his mouth got him to the top, now its shooting him back down,(from post a few above)
Quote
Trump when asked if his poll numbers begin to tank what would he do.
His response...Drop out.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 03, 2015, 04:35:19 pm
https://lockerdome.com/6521112263672385/8083977646905364

Donald Trump: Vladimir Putin Gets an A for Leadership

Donald Trump has surprised some people a few days ago. He said that Putin is certainly getting an A for his leadership. Not only that, Trump said that Putin has every right to support, defend and protect Assad in Syria. [1] Trump made another good point by saying that taking in Syrian refugees in the U.S. can backfire because you never know if they are really refugees.[2] "They could be Isis," he said, and "they are all strong."[3] The refugee crisis in the Middle East, he added, could be "one of the great tactical ploys of all time."[4] Well, Mr. Trump, welcome to the club.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 03, 2015, 04:39:05 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/03/politics/donald-trump-syria-refugees-military/index.html

  Yep.  You tell them Trump.  Obama wants to ship the enemy to the USA.

Trump: Bringing Syrian refugees to U.S. could result in military coup

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Saturday that bringing Syrian refugees to the U.S. could result in "one of the great military coups of all time."

"This could be one of the great military coups of all time if they send them to our country -- young, strong people and they turn out to be ISIS," he told Fox News' Eric Bolling.

The Republican front-runner said he heard up to 200,000 refugees could come to the U.S.

"This could be like a Trojan horse," he said. "Two-hundred-thousand people coming into the United States and they come in here and we're totally unprepared."

"So I said, 'Absolutely, you shouldn't,' and then I said, 'Look, Obama wants to bring 200,000 people here,' and I said, 'If I win the election, they are going back,'" Trump said.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 03, 2015, 04:44:00 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/politics/bobby-jindal-ted-cruz-donald-trump/index.html

   Jindal is less than a 1 percenter.  Trump would say Jindal is a masochist.  Jindal needs to get out of the race.

Bobby Jindal hits Ted Cruz for supporting Donald Trump
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 03, 2015, 07:50:52 pm
^^^^ I must of hit the post button  before ready sorry about that:

 American sheeple who follow main stream media that's who.  Everyone in here should understand the polls like the news and most any news outlets are controlled, and display what or how they want the sheep to "feel" in the know.


Again, I don't think the public can believe that poll is legitimate.

Their Attention Deficit Disorder has not hit critical mass.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 04, 2015, 10:58:30 am
Again, I don't think the public can believe that poll is legitimate.

Their Attention Deficit Disorder has not hit critical mass.

  Agreed.

  When Trump was talking masochists and dropping out, it was a message to the bottom dwellers to drop out.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 04, 2015, 11:38:32 am
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?action=post;topic=269494.280;last_msg=1557160

Trump: Armed teachers could have stopped Oregon massacre
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 04, 2015, 12:08:40 pm
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7011


Ipsos/Reuters Poll (October 2): Core Political Approval

Republicans

Donald Trump continues to lead among Republicans, currently with 32% of Republican support (up from 30% last week).

Ben Carson remains in 2nd at 12% among Republicans. Carson has lost some ground in the latest poll.
Jeb Bush remains in 3rd with 10%.
Carly Fiorina has held her gains from after the Republican debate, currently at 8% among Republicans, but has made no more progress.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: chris jones on October 04, 2015, 08:24:26 pm
 All this man is lacking is a a deep and truthfull knowledge of the true insiders.  I have a feeling a % of the true Americans in a position of power will be more than happy to bring him up to date on the inner workings.
Some big dogs are more than pleased a man who may just become knowlegeabe as to the top key players and lackeys will come forward once they are thougroughly convinced he is on the level and educate him on the real deal.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 05, 2015, 06:57:00 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/05/exclusive-donald-trump-declares-war-on-obamatrade-time-to-send-a-real-businessman-to-white-house-to-end-this/

EXCLUSIVE — DONALD TRUMP DECLARES WAR ON OBAMATRADE: ‘TIME TO SEND A REAL BUSINESSMAN’ TO WHITE HOUSE TO END THIS


GOP frontrunner Donald Trump is hammering President Barack Obama, his administration and Congress for completely failing the American worker when it comes to trade policy—whacking the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade pact with 12 Pacific Rim nations that the Obama just finalized in Atlanta as a deal that jeopardizes U.S. jobs.

“The incompetence and dishonesty of the President, his administration and—perhaps most disturbing—the Congress of the United States are about to place American jobs and the very livelihoods of Americans at risk,” Trump tells Breitbart News in an exclusive statement reacting to the news that the president and his negotiators have wrapped the highly secretive they have been negotiating for the past several years on Monday morning.

“The only entities to benefit from this trade deal will be other countries, particularly China and Japan, and big corporations in America,” Trump tells Breitbart News.

The small business operators, farmers, manufacturers and others will again be burdened with unfair trade practices, currency manipulation, exploitation of cheap labor, an onerous tax code and no help coming from the very people charged with putting America first. If crony capitalism were not bad enough, then sticking it to unions, small businesses and everyday Americans seems to be the new blood sport inside the DC Beltway.

Trump said that the lack of transparency throughout the secret negotiations should prove that the deal is horrendous.

“If this was such a good deal, why was there not more transparency?” Trump said.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 05, 2015, 07:00:58 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/05/exclusive-jeff-sessions-obamatrade-can-killed/


EXCLUSIVE — SEN. JEFF SESSIONS: OBAMATRADE CAN BE KILLED

Negotiators in Atlanta have reached an agreement on the 12-nation global trade pact, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), meaning the trade deal is likely to come up for a vote early next year.

Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)80%
 of Alabama – who led the populist revolt against fast-track and TPP – wants Americans to understand TPP can still be killed.

In an exclusive interview on Breitbart News Sunday Sirius XM radio with Breitbart News Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon, Sessions was asked: “Is there any way for [TPP] to be defeated… in the United States Senate?” Sessions answered that yes, it is “possible” to kill the TPP bill.

Obamatrade collectively refers to Trade Promotion Authority (TPA), which is the controversial fast-track mechanism for ramming bills through Congress with minimum scrutiny, and the three major trade deals that would be guaranteed these ‘fast-track’ protections before a page of them had been made public: the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (T-TIP) and Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA). Sessions has previously pointed out that these three trade deals collectively encompass 90 percent of global GDP.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 05, 2015, 07:05:51 pm
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-bottled-water-marco-rubio-214455

  Some humor from Mr Trump.  If they elect Rubio, Florida will turn into NORTH CUBA.

Trump campaign trolls Rubio with bottled water delivery


Donald Trump delivered a new dig in his ongoing feud with Sen. Marco Rubio on Monday: a 24-bottle care package with the label “Trump Ice Natural Spring Water.”

The set of bottled water was sent to the Rubio campaign’s Washington office on Monday. The package also had two towels with the “Make America Great Again” Trump campaign slogan, Trump campaign bumper stickers, and a note that said “Since you’re always sweating, we thought you could use some water. Enjoy!” according to CNN.

It’s a jab at Rubio who awkwardly reached for a bottle of water right in the middle of his 2013 State of the Union rebuttal to President Barack Obama. It’s also the latest attack in the squabbling between Trump and Rubio. Both candidates have been delivering strong poll numbers in the Republican primary field, sparking tensions.

During a recent debate, Trump poked Rubio for being sweaty.

“Rubio, I’ve never seen a young guy sweat that much,” Trump said during a recent appearance in South Carolina. “He’s drinking water, water, water, I never saw anything like this with him with the water.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Al Bundy on October 05, 2015, 10:29:20 pm
CNBC: Why Trump is Putin`s favorite candidate for US president ?

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/05/trump-is-vladimir-putins-favorite-presidential-candidate.htmlhttp://

Al Bundy: That is only election campaign.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 05, 2015, 11:29:13 pm
(http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/c72d93876a.jpg)

  The Great Wall of Trump
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 06, 2015, 03:34:55 pm
Wow. Trump on Savage. Tearing up on the tpp agreement ... says he'll undo it when elected. ...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 06, 2015, 04:37:04 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3261986/I-m-going-way-going-WIN-Trump-hits-disgusting-dishonest-claims-exit-strategy-White-House-race.html
'I'm going all the way and we're going to WIN':
Trump hits back at 'disgusting' and 'dishonest' claims that he has an exit strategy for White House race
Trump was initially asked: 'If you face the prospect of losing primaries, and you're not winning anymore, would you decide to step away at that point?'
He said: 'Well, I'm not a masochist...if I was like some of these people at 1 percent and 2 percent...If I fell behind badly, I would certainly get out'
The billionaire said if he tanked, he'd just go back to his business
The media, he said today, has misconstrued his statements to make it look like he's seeking an exit - and he's not
See our full coverage of Donald Trump and his presidential bid

By Francesca Chambers, White House Correspondent For Dailymail.com

Published: 09:06 EST, 6 October 2015  | Updated: 09:58 EST, 6 October 2015
...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3261986/I-m-going-way-going-WIN-Trump-hits-disgusting-dishonest-claims-exit-strategy-White-House-race.html#ixzz3npJ2WLrI
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 06, 2015, 07:13:09 pm
 Trump is coming up with answers to all of the questions he takes!

This tell me the man has more answers than questions!

...and that is a leader quality; that is lacking in the fools, in DC!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 06, 2015, 10:13:19 pm
Wow. Trump on Savage. Tearing up on the tpp agreement ... says he'll undo it when elected. ...

Thanks for the heads up on this interview. The country just sounds ripe for revolution. If Trump is drawing crowds in droves there is something in the air. I just hope there isn't some type of negative trigger point.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 06, 2015, 10:23:27 pm
Thanks for the heads up on this interview. The country just sounds ripe for revolution. If Trump is drawing crowds in droves there is something in the air. I just hope there isn't some type of negative trigger point.
Mate: I believe Trump is bringing folks together and will not trigger a violent response from anyone: Except the LIARS in Gov.  ;)

...my Vote is for Trump---as he has a Big mouth; Just as I Do  8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 06, 2015, 11:42:57 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3261986/I-m-going-way-going-WIN-Trump-hits-disgusting-dishonest-claims-exit-strategy-White-House-race.html
'I'm going all the way and we're going to WIN':
Trump hits back at 'disgusting' and 'dishonest' claims that he has an exit strategy for White House race
Trump was initially asked: 'If you face the prospect of losing primaries, and you're not winning anymore, would you decide to step away at that point?'
He said: 'Well, I'm not a masochist...if I was like some of these people at 1 percent and 2 percent...If I fell behind badly, I would certainly get out'
The billionaire said if he tanked, he'd just go back to his business
The media, he said today, has misconstrued his statements to make it look like he's seeking an exit - and he's not
See our full coverage of Donald Trump and his presidential bid

By Francesca Chambers, White House Correspondent For Dailymail.com

Published: 09:06 EST, 6 October 2015  | Updated: 09:58 EST, 6 October 2015
...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3261986/I-m-going-way-going-WIN-Trump-hits-disgusting-dishonest-claims-exit-strategy-White-House-race.html#ixzz3npJ2WLrI
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  I have said it before and I will say it again----When Trump said masochist he was telling the bottom dwellers---Santorum, Jindal, Christy, Paul, et al----TO GET OUT OF THE RACE.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 06, 2015, 11:53:42 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/06/donald-trump-has-spent-2-million-on-his-entire-campaign-thats-brilliant/


Donald Trump has spent only $2 million on his entire campaign. That’s brilliant.

(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2015/10/Trumpcash.jpg&w=1484)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 07, 2015, 07:38:42 am
Mate: I believe Trump is bringing folks together and will not trigger a violent response from anyone: Except the LIARS in Gov.  ;)

...my Vote is for Trump---as he has a Big mouth; Just as I Do  8)

Well mate, you never lived in New York and you don't really know who Trump is, do you now? He ain't just a big mouth. And he made his fortune on other peoples backs, literally. He borrowed money he couldn't pay back. The guy is self centered and full of shit.

Look for yourself and then prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Slackjaw on October 07, 2015, 06:19:07 pm
Well mate, you never lived in New York and you don't really know who Trump is, do you now? He ain't just a big mouth. And he made his fortune on other peoples backs, literally. He borrowed money he couldn't pay back. The guy is self centered and full of shit.

Look for yourself and then prove me wrong.

Yes, he borrowed money, got into a great deal of trouble, then was bailed out. Who by? What quid pro quo will be exacted?

Trump is trouble. He probably has an entire one of his buildings full of skeletons, and is as blackmailable as any of them, if not much more so.

Additionally, when anyone says that the lunatic coffin-dweller Netanyahu is 'a great statesman' and a 'man of peace', as the obviously compromised Trump has, then this at least should raise some huge red flags.

It's important that people stop getting so thoroughly chumped by Trump.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 07, 2015, 07:11:51 pm
Yes, he borrowed money, got into a great deal of trouble, then was bailed out. Who by? What quid pro quo will be exacted?

Trump is trouble. He probably has an entire one of his buildings full of skeletons, and is as blackmailable as any of them, if not much more so.

Additionally, when anyone says that the lunatic coffin-dweller Netanyahu is 'a great statesman' and a 'man of peace', as the obviously compromised Trump has, then this at least should raise some huge red flags.

It's important that people stop getting so thoroughly chumped by Trump.

Everybody loves a winner. They look at Trump and think he is a self made billionaire, a winner. Do people know back in the early 1990s Forbes took him off the billionaires list because 700 million of his cash assets were actually bank credit lines?

The guys a shyster businessman, a good one, I'll give him that, but fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, I won't get fooled again.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 08, 2015, 06:20:05 am
Yes, he borrowed money, got into a great deal of trouble, then was bailed out. Who by? What quid pro quo will be exacted?

Trump is trouble. He probably has an entire one of his buildings full of skeletons, and is as blackmailable as any of them, if not much more so.

Additionally, when anyone says that the lunatic coffin-dweller Netanyahu is 'a great statesman' and a 'man of peace', as the obviously compromised Trump has, then this at least should raise some huge red flags.

It's important that people stop getting so thoroughly chumped by Trump.

well said

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 08, 2015, 06:21:00 am
Everybody loves a winner. They look at Trump and think he is a self made billionaire, a winner. Do people know back in the early 1990s Forbes took him off the billionaires list because 700 million of his cash assets were actually bank credit lines?

The guys a shyster businessman, a good one, I'll give him that, but fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, I won't get fooled again.

 ;D
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 08, 2015, 06:24:06 am
across the developed nations, the era of polished professional politicians is over.
the people want 'real' politicians and anyone they think as not establishment gets votes.



Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 08, 2015, 06:25:17 am
Mate: I believe Trump is bringing folks together and will not trigger a violent response from anyone: Except the LIARS in Gov.  ;)

...my Vote is for Trump---as he has a Big mouth; Just as I Do  8)

perhaps you should investigate his background m8
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 08, 2015, 10:03:17 am


  There are some of you that are bad-mouthing Trump.  I would like to know who you would like to see as the next President.

  As for me, I see Trump as the best candidate.

  The 2 issues that concern the most are immigration and Veteran's affairs.  Trump has said he will help the Vets and he will try to curb immigration.

  About a year ago I went to the Emergency Room of the OKC Veteran's Hospital.  I arrived at 11 am and was told at 7 pm that I would not be seen until 4 am the next morning.  While I was there there was a fellow brother having a heart attack and they would not see him.  We both left.  THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN AMERICA.  ILLEGAL ALIENS GET BETTER TREATMENT.

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 08, 2015, 10:33:35 am
there is a saying ... he's a bad boy . but he's our bad boy
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 08, 2015, 11:37:56 am

  There are some of you that are bad-mouthing Trump.  I would like to know who you would like to see as the next President.

  As for me, I see Trump as the best candidate.

  The 2 issues that concern the most are immigration and Veteran's affairs.  Trump has said he will help the Vets and he will try to curb immigration.

  About a year ago I went to the Emergency Room of the OKC Veteran's Hospital.  I arrived at 11 am and was told at 7 pm that I would not be seen until 4 am the next morning.  While I was there there was a fellow brother having a heart attack and they would not see him.  We both left.  THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN AMERICA.  ILLEGAL ALIENS GET BETTER TREATMENT.

 

Immigration? Maybe Trump can pay and take care of all the illegal Polish immigrants that helped demo one of his highrises that was full of asbestos. They worked with no protective equipment at one third the prevailing wage.

Sorry Doc but a leopard can not change its spots.

I hate to say it but Rand looks like the best choice, but he has fallen thanks to Trumps bullshit, err, I mean populism.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 08, 2015, 11:54:27 am
"populism" is sweeping across the developed world but i did not expect any of the awake to be daft enough to fall for it.


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 08, 2015, 12:41:10 pm
There is not ANY candidates that are worthy of the presidency,  I like what Trump is promoting, but not committing to anyone so far. Highly doubt Trump will get the nomination anyway.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 08, 2015, 12:42:29 pm
Immigration? Maybe Trump can pay and take care of all the illegal Polish immigrants that helped demo one of his highrises that was full of asbestos. They worked with no protective equipment at one third the prevailing wage.

Sorry Doc but a leopard can not change its spots.

I hate to say it but Rand looks like the best choice, but he has fallen thanks to Trumps bullshit, err, I mean populism.

  Thanks for answering the question.  IMO Rand will NEVER be President.  He may look good on paper but my 120 Veteran buddies here in Montana say no to Rand.  He has fallen FAR from his father's tree.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 08, 2015, 12:47:37 pm
  Thanks for answering the question.  IMO Rand will NEVER be President.  He may look good on paper but my 120 Veteran buddies here in Montana say no to Rand.  He has fallen FAR from his father's tree.

Yup

but did we really have to wait for donald chump to make it obvious ?
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 08, 2015, 07:27:33 pm
Well mate, you never lived in New York and you don't really know who Trump is, do you now? He ain't just a big mouth. And he made his fortune on other peoples backs, literally. He borrowed money he couldn't pay back. The guy is self centered and full of shit.

Look for yourself and then prove me wrong.
I live in Rochester NY ---and I have watched Trump since the 1980's.

..and he WAS an arrogant snot: BUT now he has a change of heart; as an older man: he is like President JFK; as Both men have had a change of HEART as they understood: The Lie, from the Military Industrial Complex!

..so , my friend I do understand the BS in NY State!

Trump is the Card that Euchres the Rodents in DC!  ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 08, 2015, 07:34:06 pm
perhaps you should investigate his background m8
m8--I have investigated Trumps background---and I know the man is: "Street Smart"  8)

...and this is what the world needs at this point in time!

...is that an answer that can be understood!

,,,America needs a Leader that keeps his mouth going against the evil in our would!

...Trump has brought ALL the BS to the Light of the American folks!

,,,,and this is WHY! he is the FRONT RUNNER!

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 08, 2015, 08:52:47 pm


… must see!

Hispanic Supporter GOES LOCO
On Stage Meeting Donald Trump!



√ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMT4Napft_s

√ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/you-must-see-this-hispanic-supporter-goes-loco-on-stage-meeting-donald-trump-video/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 09, 2015, 12:05:40 am
m8--I have investigated Trumps background---and I know the man is: "Street Smart"  8)

...and this is what the world needs at this point in time!

...is that an answer that can be understood!

,,,America needs a Leader that keeps his mouth going against the evil in our would!

...Trump has brought ALL the BS to the Light of the American folks!

,,,,and this is WHY! he is the FRONT RUNNER!


Well I hope you own a pair of hip waders.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 09, 2015, 07:04:43 am

Well I hope you own a pair of hip waders.
Actually I'll be 'Putting on my Dancing Shoes!'

Trump and Carson are on the Road to the White House...my opinion!

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 09, 2015, 07:33:51 am
Donald Trump Explains Why Eminent Domain is Awesome..

Quote
Needless to say, I don't agree with Donald Trump on this particular issue, but it isn't as if his position comes as a particular surprise. Donald Trump has been bulldozing trailer parks for years in an effort to build his chain of luxury hotels, altering skylines and flying his name across the landscape. It's just that someone finally asked.

Donald Trump really likes eminent domain, even when it's a private organization doing the taking at the behest of the government. And he'd like you to like it, too.
Trump's position on this makes sense: he's a real estate developer. But it's also worth noting that Trump's position on this is to support a policy that rarely makes anyting better. As with the property in question in the Supreme Court case, Kelo v. New London, the government isn't always in the best position to determine which economic activity would make an area more vibrant. As a result, as with Kelo, it can sometimes make things worse. New London is an empty lot. Trump helped bring back Atlantic City for a time, but the area is suffering now, perhaps more so than before he go there.

video at the link:http://spectator.org/blog/64303/donald-trump-explains-why-eminent-domain-awesome (http://spectator.org/blog/64303/donald-trump-explains-why-eminent-domain-awesome)

MONEY MONEY all he knows to bad if people do not want to move. watch the video
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 09, 2015, 08:42:49 am
Donald Trump Explains Why Eminent Domain is Awesome..

video at the link:http://spectator.org/blog/64303/donald-trump-explains-why-eminent-domain-awesome (http://spectator.org/blog/64303/donald-trump-explains-why-eminent-domain-awesome)

MONEY MONEY all he knows to bad if people do not want to move. watch the video

The only time Eminent Domain is allowable is for Public Use. What constitutes Public Use has been up for debate. It has to benefit the public welfare or public interest. One exception that restrains the federal government is that the property must be used in exercise of a government's enumerated powers. Donald Trump's private, for profit, corporation, just because it creates jobs, is a pretty shady grey area.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 09, 2015, 09:43:24 am
The only time Eminent Domain is allowable is for Public Use. What constitutes Public Use has been up for debate. It has to benefit the public welfare or public interest. One exception that restrains the federal government is that the property must be used in exercise of a government's enumerated powers. Donald Trump's private, for profit, corporation, just because it creates jobs, is a pretty shady grey area.

i just want some checks and balances that the community thinks its necessary, not some corrupt politician taking a bribe
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 10, 2015, 12:11:28 am
http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2015/10/09/truth-man-was-being-beaten-with-a-baseball-bat-then-donald-trumps-limo-rolled-up/#


TRUTH: Man Was Being Beaten With A Baseball Bat… Then Donald Trump’s Limo Rolled Up

An incident involving Donald Trump has recently surfaced that involves The Donald performing a heroic deed back in 1991 and we think you will be amazed! When Trump saw a man savagely beating another man with a baseball bat he did what any other billionaire would do- he ordered his driver to pull the limo over and came to the man’s aid!



James Rosen at New York Daily News (via Philly.com) reported back on November 20, 1991 that Trump and his wife at the time, Marla Maples, along with another couple were heading toward the Lincoln Tunnel on their way to the Meadowlands in New Jersey for a Paula Abdul concert. Lol, Paula Abdul.

As the limo was about to enter the tunnel Trump noticed “a big guy with a big bat” swinging away at another guy.

“Someone in the car looked over and said, ‘Gee, look at that, it’s a mugging,’” Trump said. “I said to my driver to stop the car because it was brutal-looking.” He jumped out of the car, with Maples tugging at his coat attempting to stop him.

“The guy with the bat looked at me, and I said, ‘Look, you’ve gotta stop this. Put down the bat,’” Trump said. “I guess he recognized me because he said, ‘Mr. Trump, I didn’t do anything wrong.’ I said, ‘How could you not do anything wrong when you’re whacking a guy with a bat?’ Then he ran away.”

Kathleen Romeo, a 16-year-old student yelled “That’s Trump!” as they rolled up on the scene.

“A lot of people were surprised that he got out to see what was happening,” Romeo said, adding that the bat-wielder ran off just before Trump actually appeared, and that Trump, “just looked around and went back into his limo.”

But other witnesses backed up Trump’s story.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 10, 2015, 12:27:51 am
Actually I'll be 'Putting on my Dancing Shoes!'

Trump and Carson are on the Road to the White House...my opinion!
Coming close to Dancing on the Floor of Stupidity!

...Trump and Carson are an unbeatable team!

..I just PRAY they stay together!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 10, 2015, 09:00:02 am

… must see!

Hispanic Supporter GOES LOCO
On Stage Meeting Donald Trump!



√ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMT4Napft_s

√ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/you-must-see-this-hispanic-supporter-goes-loco-on-stage-meeting-donald-trump-video/

… the lady interviewed on CNN:

Hispanic Supporter: The Things Trump Says About Latin
American Countries Are ‘100-Percent Right’


http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/09/hispanic-supporter-the-things-trump-says-about-latin-american-countries-are-100-percent-right-video/
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 10, 2015, 10:36:21 am
Coming close to Dancing on the Floor of Stupidity!

...Trump and Carson are an unbeatable team!

..I just PRAY they stay together!

At this point all you can do is hope and pray, because nothing is as what it seems.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 10, 2015, 10:47:44 am
At this point all you can do is hope and pray, because nothing is as what it seems.
Mate: I agree That Nothing is as what it seems! as we are living in The Twilight Zone!

...but I do pray that our Nation and World finds a New Path to walk on---as the old dirt road is worn out!

...if our planet does not change; NOW--then in my opinion we are all burnt toast!

I will Vote for Trump and I pray he picks Carson as VP!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 10, 2015, 11:11:03 pm
No not Carson  the man is hell bent on mandatory vaccines.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 11, 2015, 10:13:41 am
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/11/politics/donald-trump-guns-business-paul-ryan/index.html

Donald Trump: 'I feel much better being armed'
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 11, 2015, 10:14:33 am
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-shouldnt-be-allowed-run

Donald Trump: Hillary Clinton ‘shouldn’t be allowed to run’
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 11, 2015, 10:19:17 am
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/10/donald-trump-paul-ryan-far-first-choice-speaker-house/

  Yes Mr Trump, you are correct.  Ryan is NWO Scum.  He would work with Obama to advance Bummer's agenda because they are both puppets of the NWO.


DONALD TRUMP: PAUL RYAN ‘FAR FROM FIRST CHOICE’ FOR SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 11, 2015, 11:12:20 am
Trump shows his respect for 4th Amendment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4DjrBC4K-Q
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 11, 2015, 12:22:55 pm


Lifestyles of the rich and famous Donald Trump:

  YOUTUBE:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns5bMU4bYKc

"
He’s the richest man ever to run for president,
richer than Ross Perot and Steve Forbes and Mitt Romney.
“I have a Gucci store that’s worth more than Romney,”
Trump told the Des Moines Register.



Inside the fabulous world of Donald Trump,
where money is no problem

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/inside-the-fabulous-world-of-donald-trump-where-money-is-no-problem/2015/10/09/e51ae0fc-6161-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 12, 2015, 12:15:52 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/video-black-supporter-goes-off-at-trump-rally-obama-has-failed-us-were-taking-back-america/


VIDEO=> Black Supporter Goes Off at Trump Rally: “Obama Has Failed Us. We’re Taking Back America”


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 12, 2015, 08:21:39 pm
Donald Trump: The only presidential candidate to tell the truth about vaccines

THIS IS WONDERFUL NEWS

Quote
In a series of tweets made in September 2014, the presidential candidate expressed concerns about administering vaccines to children in large doses. He suggested that administering vaccines in small doses over time might be able to reduce autism rates in children.

Trump stated elsewhere that autism is an epidemic, and that the link between vaccines and the disease is real. Meanwhile, other presidential candidates claim that vaccines are harmless. The debate isn't centered on whether vaccines are safe, but whether they should be a choice or mandatory.

Trump cut through the obscurantism as reflected in his tweets

Read his tweets at the link:
http://www.naturalnews.com/051527_Donald_Trump_vaccines_autism.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/051527_Donald_Trump_vaccines_autism.html)

Remember Meanwhile, other presidential candidates claim that vaccines are harmless
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 12, 2015, 09:12:29 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/insider/is-it-true-donald-trump-cannot-win-the-presidency.html?_r=0

  The NWO SCUM/MSM are still trying to beat down Trump, Carson and Florina.

  Note---The NY Times is one of the mouthpieces of the elites.

  DEATH TO THE NWO



Is it True Donald Trump Cannot Win the Presidency?


Can Donald Trump win the Republican nomination? Sure, it’s within the realm of plausibility; he’s now been leading the polls for months, after all. But it seems highly unlikely because it would violate just about every historical pattern of presidential races.

No modern candidate has received a major-party nomination — and perhaps no candidate in American history — while being opposed by the party’s elites: donors, media figures, politicians and others.

Elite support matters because they have the ability to shape public opinion through endorsements, public criticism and other means. Many voters don’t follow campaigns very closely. They don’t dig through position papers or watch hours upon hours of debates. They’re influenced by what they hear.

In every recent Republican presidential campaign, a couple of contenders — often with resumes atypical of a serious candidate — have shot to the top of the early polls, only to fade as they face scrutiny and criticism. What’s fascinating about Mr. Trump is that he has, if anything, endured harsher criticism, and yet he has also remained atop the polls for longer.

Perhaps Republican primary voters have grown so fed up with the country and their party that they’re willing to dismiss the collective opinion of Republican elites (which now seems to favor Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush). But it really would be unprecedented for the party to nominate someone like Mr. Trump, Ben Carson or Carly Fiorina.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 12, 2015, 09:16:49 pm
Donald Trump: The only presidential candidate to tell the truth about vaccines

THIS IS WONDERFUL NEWS

Read his tweets at the link:
http://www.naturalnews.com/051527_Donald_Trump_vaccines_autism.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/051527_Donald_Trump_vaccines_autism.html)

Remember Meanwhile, other presidential candidates claim that vaccines are harmless

  Yes, I remember Trump talking about a couple he knows that had a perfectly normal baby AND THEN THEY WENT TO GET THEIR SHOTS FOR THE BABY.  Trump said that a week or 2 later, the baby developed AUTISM.  The MSM has tried to cover it up---but people are slowly waking up.

  DEATH TO THE NWO.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 12, 2015, 11:24:43 pm
Trump is a billionaire, he is all part of a slick Globalist campaign strategy to get one if their own elected by telling Americans what they want to hear.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 13, 2015, 12:22:50 am
^^^^ might be true  but he is telling the truth on vaccines 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 13, 2015, 08:52:37 am
Trump is a billionaire, he is all part of a slick Globalist campaign strategy to get one of their own elected by telling Americans what they want to hear.

  Prove your statement.  Give us links.  We know he is a billionaire.  You prove the rest.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 13, 2015, 08:57:19 am
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/13/busted-cnn-uses-jeb-bush-staffer-planted-in-audience-to-frame-donald-trump-narrativehit-job/

Busted ! CNN Uses Jeb Bush Staffer Planted In Audience To Frame Donald Trump Narrative/Hit Job….

During an appearance at a Jon Huntsman “No Labels” event, a female audience member named Lauren Batchelder played the role of a female antagonist toward candidate Donald Trump.

However, Ms. Batchelder is not just an average audience member.  She’s a paid political operative of the GOP and a paid staff member of Team Jeb Bush:


Within minutes of her scripted performance at the event, the producers of CNN were quickly editing soundbites and framing a narrative.  That story was pushed into the media stream within hours.  CNN’s Jeanne Moos was the delivery vehicle for the a hit piece.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 13, 2015, 09:03:33 am
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/politics/donald-trump-twitter-cnn-democratic-debate/

Donald Trump will live-tweet CNN's Democratic Debate

(CNN)The Republican presidential front-runner, whose colorful tweets have made almost as much news as the real estate mogul has made in person, is planning to make sure his voice heard during tonight's debate.

Donald Trump wrote Tuesday morning that he will live-tweet CNN's Democratic Debate, kicking off in Las Vegas just hours from now.

"At the request of many, and even though I expect it to be a very boring two hours, I will be covering the Democrat Debate live on Twitter," Trump wrote.

Trump has made his disdain for the Democratic field, and its front-runner Hillary Clinton in particular, apparent at nearly every turn.

"Honestly, (Clinton) shouldn't be allowed to run," Trump said Saturday at an event in Georgia.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on October 13, 2015, 09:17:11 am
Trump shows his respect for 4th Amendment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4DjrBC4K-Q

He shows his true colors !
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 13, 2015, 10:35:57 am
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/13/busted-cnn-uses-jeb-bush-staffer-planted-in-audience-to-frame-donald-trump-narrativehit-job/

Busted ! CNN Uses Jeb Bush Staffer Planted In Audience To Frame Donald Trump Narrative/Hit Job….


… what a botched piece of dirty trickery!
JEB is grasping at straws …. he's on the WRONG SIDE
of every issue!

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 13, 2015, 10:54:09 am
  Prove your statement.  Give us links.  We know he is a billionaire.  You prove the rest.

Has he signed a non-Globalist pledge yet ?  Where he refuses to take orders from Bilderberg ?

No !

Case and point.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 13, 2015, 04:43:48 pm
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/10/13/donald_trump_s_troll_army_unleashes_its_force_on_a_teenage_intern.html


Donald Trump’s Troll Army Unleashes Its Force on a Teenage Intern


The full force of Donald Trump’s troll army has been unleashed on an 18-year-old intern. Yesterday, a college student named Lauren Batchelder made news for standing up at the No Labels conference in New Hampshire to ask Trump about equal pay and reproductive rights: “If you become president, will a woman make the same as a man, and do I get to choose what I do with my body?" Today, the news broke that—shocker!—Batchelder, a young woman who hangs around wonky political conferences, is involved with politics. Besides interning for New Hampshire Republican Senator Kelly Ayotte, she volunteers for Jeb Bush, who should really step in to help her now that right-wing bullies have set out to ruin her life.


If the Bush campaign planted Batchelder—which it denies—it was a cynical move, given that Bush’s stance on the issues she raised isn’t much different than Trump’s. Attacking him and his staffers is fair enough, but naturally, Trump’s fans and allies would rather rip a young woman to shreds. Rush Limbaugh went after her by name on his radio show. Her social media feeds were dumped online, though she quickly turned them off. Her mailing address was published on Twitter. A video clip of her performing a song from The Little Mermaid circulated for the mob’s jeering delectation. One right-winger Tweeted: “Spread her name like that of that other infamous intern: Monica Lewinsky.” Others were far cruder.

Until Batchelder speaks out, there’s no way to know how shaken she is by all this. But women who end up on the wrong end of a social media pile-on can find it very hard to get their lives back.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: pac522 on October 13, 2015, 05:24:11 pm
My God, we are back in high school and Trump is the star quarterback running for prom king. We are doomed, doomed I tell ya.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 13, 2015, 06:44:25 pm
My God, we are back in high school and Trump is the star quarterback running for prom king. We are doomed, doomed I tell ya.

and there was me thinking kindergarten !
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 03:34:28 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-donald-trump-leads-nevada-south-carolina-2015-10

Donald Trump is blowing everyone out of the water in 2 key states


If there was any doubt left about Trump's sway over an influential part of the Republican primary electorate, fresh new evidence points to his staying power in the GOP field.

New CNN/ORC polls released Wednesday of likely voters in two key states showed Trump almost doubling the support of his next-closest rival, despite speculation that his support has peaked.

Trump led among likely Republican voters in Nevada with 38% support, while he garnered 36% of the Republican vote in South Carolina. Those two states are the third and fourth, respectively, on the primary schedule.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 03:37:19 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-video-2015-10

Donald Trump is starting to go after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont).

(http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/561e8296bd86ef1b008c1c0c-1128-630/screen%20shot%202015-10-14%20at%2012.27.19%20pm.png)


In a short attack video posted to Trump's Instagram account on Wednesday, Trump's campaign skewered the self-described Democratic socialist over his response to "Black Lives Matter" protesters who stormed the stage at a Sanders event earlier this year in Seattle.

"The world is a dangerous place. We need a tough, strong leader in the White House. And it's not this guy!" the video's narrator says.

"Bernie can't even defend his microphone — how will he defend the country?" the text block of the video reads.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 03:44:38 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/ann-coulter-donald-trump-election-immigration-2015-9

  video at the link.  COULTER IS RIGHT.  TRUMP IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL DO ANYTHING ABOUT IMMIGRATION. 

  IMMIGRATION IS THE #1 ISSUE.
                        ----ANN COULTER



Here's why Ann Coulter thinks Donald Trump has a real shot at winning it all
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 03:52:56 pm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/14/donald-trump-it-looks-two-man-race-gop-side/

Donald Trump: It looks like a two-man race on the GOP side

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump said Wednesday the contest for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination is starting to look like a two-man race between himself and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson and that he might have to start going after Mr. Carson even though the doctor has been nice to him.

A Fox News poll released Tuesday had Mr. Trump in the lead at 24 percent, with Mr. Carson right behind him at 23 percent.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 03:55:30 pm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/13/donald-trump-dominates-discussion-of-democrats-bor/


Donald Trump dominates discussion of Democrats’ ‘boring’ debate on Twitter, Facebook
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 03:57:01 pm
http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/baltimore-insider-blog/bal-donald-trump-uses-the-democratic-debate-to-rail-on-baltimore-again-20151014-story.html


Donald Trump uses the Democratic debate to rail on Baltimore -- again
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 14, 2015, 04:03:47 pm
Trump going after Bernie Sanders ?
Like can anyone work out what that means ?


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 05:00:04 pm
http://national.suntimes.com/national-world-news/7/72/1955132/donald-trump-demands-secret-service-protection/

Donald Trump wants Secret Service protection

The general election may be more than a year away, but Republican front-runner Donald Trump is making call for the Secret Service to be by his side.

In an exclusive interview with The Hill, Trump said he should be getting Secret Service protection, citing the early protection Barack Obama received in 2007 during the campaign. Obama was granted use of the Secret Service on May 3, 2007.

Trump pointed to partisan politics as to why he has to rely on his private security. During his campaign, Mexican drug kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman has reportedly made multiple threats against Trump. The latest one reportedly involves a $100 million bounty on Trump “dead or alive.”

“I want to put them on notice because they should have a liability,” Trump said of the Secret Service. “Personally, I think if Obama were doing as well as me he would’ve had Secret Service (earlier). I have by far the biggest crowds.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 05:05:36 pm
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/10/12/trump_gets_more_serious_on_the_stump


Trump Gets More Serious on the Stump

RUSH LIMBAUGH: You know the No Labels group?  The No Labels group is basically a bunch of Republican liberals.  They are Republicans who don't like conservatives, and they don't want to be associated with conservatism.  They want to be seen as intellectually elite, scholarly, superior, and they love being thought of as moderates.  You know why?  'Cause moderates, independents, that's another thing that's happened in our political culture.  Those people have acquired the reputation of open-minded, which is intelligent.  Like those of us who are wedded to our causes 'cause we really believe -- we're small-minded, closed-minded, we're not open to opposing points of view.  But the moderates and the independents, these are the diamonds in our culture because they make up their mind issue by issue.

They're not closed-minded, and they're not small-minded, and they're not bigoted.  Well, a bunch of these people got together and formed a club essentially called No Labels.  And there's some former Republican speechwriters in this group.  The former media director for the McCain campaign of 2008 is in this group.  And, anyway, this group had an event.  It's going on right now in New Hampshire called the No Labels event.  And Trump began his appearance at the No Labels event, which is apparently just a long-winded Q&A with people in the audience and whoever the officials of the No Labels organization happened to be.

And I heard before the program started that Trump's kicking it. He's just doing fabulous. So I asked Cookie to get me some sound bites of it.  And I have 'em here.  Let's go ahead and start with those.  Starting here, sound bite number 28.  It's in Manchester, New Hampshire, and this is at the No Labels Problem Solver convention, and I guess they're having a bunch of candidates show up at this thing.

It was Trump's turn to speak, and during the Q&A, an audience member said, "I was wondering what your plan is in working across the aisle to increase civic engagement among Millennials, getting college students involved and also student loans."  Now, that's a perfect question for somebody at the No Labels event.  "Can't we all just get along?  There must be bipartisanship. We must cross the aisle.  We must show the American people that we can work together.  We must show that we can do good government, that we can get things done.  We must, we must, we must."  And so you've got somebody in the audience asking Trump, "I was wandering what your plan is in working across the aisle to increase civic engagement among.  So what are you going to do, Mr. Trump, to see to it that Millennials are not so mean to each other and actually can work together with people?"

TRUMP:  Don't forget, these schools, because they get so much money from the government through the student, they're raising their fees to a point that's ridiculous.  They don't need to get that kind of money.  (Applause) Because of the fact that the government is giving out so much money, you take a look at what's happened to the cost of education, and believe me, it hasn't gone up that much, so we're gonna do a number, we're gonna get those numbers down, and also we're gonna have jobs.  So when you graduate, you're gonna end up getting a nice job where you're very happy, okay?  Thank you.  Great question.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 14, 2015, 05:14:21 pm
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

  TRUMP TWEET

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  20h20 hours ago
Notice that illegal immigrants will be given ObamaCare and free college tuition but nothing has been mentioned about our VETERANS #DemDebate
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 14, 2015, 06:46:09 pm
Trump going after Bernie Sanders ?
Like can anyone work out what that means ?
Trump goes after Sander: Because Sanders is a Commie!

Just plain and simple!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 15, 2015, 06:54:35 am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-surprising-number-of-republicans-think-donald-trump-is-their-best-hope-in-2016/ar-AAfsjrT?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=ASUDHP
 
  ^^^^^^
Check out the latest Trump appeal! he is the choice for most Republicans 8) and YES I think it is COOL!

...I do believe Trump will be in The White House!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 08:52:02 am
http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/10/14/trump-nobody-attacked-clinton-in-debate-sanders-a-maniac/

Trump handles hecklers, calls Bernie Sanders a 'maniac'

Donald Trump continued his analysis of Tuesday’s night’s debate, which he live-tweeted, during a rally in Richmond, Va. on Wednesday.

The Republican front-runner’s biggest criticism was that he felt no one went after Hillary Clinton aggressively enough. “Nobody attacked her,” he said. “There was no attack.”

The moderators and other Democratic candidates stuck to policy questions, Trump said. In contrast, he felt the Republican debates were “like a reality-television show. With me, everything was an attack.”

Trump was appalled at the extent to which he felt Clinton moved to the left to compete with Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, whom he calls a communist/socialist and a “maniac.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 08:54:28 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/14/a-surprising-number-of-republicans-see-donald-trump-as-their-best-hope-in-2016/

  Surprised?  No Surprise here.  Only to the RINOS and the Establishment Republicans are surprised.

A surprising number of Republicans think Donald Trump is their best hope in 2016

The big headline out of new CNN/ORC polling in Nevada and South Carolina is that real estate magnate Donald Trump holds wide leads in each state. But more fascinating to me than those topline numbers is the large bloc of Republicans in those two states who see him as their most electable candidate in the 2016 general election.

In Nevada, 47 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers said Trump "has the best chance of winning the general election next November." In South Carolina, that number is 44 percent. In both states, Ben Carson is a distant second to Trump on the question; Carson got 16 percent in Nevada and 17 percent in South Carolina. Jeb Bush, whose entire candidacy is premised on the idea that he is the most electable Republican in the field, is seen as the party's best chance by just 7 percent of voters in South Carolina and Nevada.

To put this in the simplest possible terms: Donald Trump is leading Jeb Bush on the electability question by 40 percentage points in Nevada. Forty!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on October 15, 2015, 08:57:09 am
Trump goes after Sander: Because Sanders is a Commie!

Just plain and simple!

/me  sighs

No - it is because Bernie Sanders is a threat to his BEST FRIEND - Hillary Clinton.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 09:11:40 am
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/14/how-donald-trump-can-win-with-guns-cars-tech-visas-ethanol-and-4chan/

  Excerpts below...

HOW DONALD TRUMP CAN WIN: WITH GUNS, CARS, TECH VISAS, ETHANOL… AND 4CHAN

I am always right. As I predicted in July, Donald Trump has electrified an otherwise soporific field of GOP candidates and exhibited real staying power. He has captured the attention of Republican voters. In defiance of his critics, who see him as either a clown, a madman or both, he continues to lead in the polls.

If there’s a single issue that defines the Trump candidacy, it’s immigration. Trump has enraged the establishment and energised the conservative grassroots with his uncompromising stance on immigration. Trump’s pledge to build a wall on the southern US border and make Mexico pay for it has become an internet meme.

Having firmly drawn a line in the sand on immigration, Trump can now confound his opponents by sketching out what a controlled immigration policy would look like. Critics of immigration often talk about the “brain drain” – rich countries attracting the best and the brightest from foreign lands, impoverishing them in the process.

There are a myriad of other subcultures under siege by big government and left-wing activists. They would all throw their support behind a Republican who promised to restore and protect basic cultural freedoms. Car enthusiasts, a huge subculture in the U.S. are currently under attack by Hillary Clinton, who wants to reimpose an absurd nationwide speed limit of 55 mph.

The first Presidential candidate to resolutely speak out on their behalf would win support for a generation and be as beloved as Ronald Reagan. Of course, Trump should also continuously reaffirm his commitment to the Second Amendment. Perhaps a photoshoot in the desert with a jet-powered truck and a couple of .357 Magnums would do it. Don’t tell me you don’t want to see those photos.


Trump is in fact the only serious candidate; he’s the candidate with the best chance of beating Hillary. To get there, Trump should embrace internet subcultures, give Silicon Valley open access to highly-skilled visas, stick up for car and gun lovers and above all robustly defend the free speech protections he has exploited so brilliantly in crafting his public image.

Because the First Amendment isn’t just for property tycoons and reality stars: it’s for everyone. And it is at colossal risk if the next President is a Democrat. Only a strong coalition of entrepreneurs, gamers, channers, gun and car owners and lovers of free speech and free expression can be sure of preventing that outcome.


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 09:15:48 am
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/11/politics/donald-trump-guns-business-paul-ryan/


Donald Trump: 'I feel much better being armed'

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump has a concealed weapon permit and says he "sometimes" carries a firearm.

"I will tell you, I feel much better being armed," the billionaire businessman said Sunday in an appearance on CBS' "Face the Nation."

Trump added, if teachers or others in classrooms were armed, it could help stop the rash of school shootings.

"Had somebody in that room had a gun, the result would've been better," the Republican presidential front-runner said of a recent campus shooting in Oregon.

"I think that if you had the teacher, assuming they knew how to use the weapon, which hopefully they would, you would've been a lot better when this maniac walked into class, starting to shoot people," he said.

In the interview with CBS host John Dickerson, Trump also said that if he's elected, he'd cut his ties with his business empire and turn it over to his children -- who currently occupy executive vice president posts.


He said he's already "phasing out as we go along," in part because of the time commitment required by the presidential campaign trail.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 09:23:47 am
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/politics/democratic-debate-donald-trump-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton/

Donald Trump: Bernie Sanders made 'big mistake' on Hillary Clinton emails

Washington (CNN)Bernie Sanders made a "big mistake" by giving Hillary Clinton cover not to discuss her emails, Donald Trump said the morning after the first Democratic presidential debate.

"You have an FBI investigation on the emails and he just let her off," the billionaire businessman and Republican presidential front-runner said Wednesday on MSNBC's Morning Joe. "When you're losing that badly you have to go a lot stronger."

Trump told ABC's "Good Morning America" that the candidates trailing Clinton failed to appropriately challenge her.

"I thought the others were not strong. They were not going after her. They were kind to her. Very gentle," he told GMA. "They had to hit her hard. They decided not to do that."

Despite some strong sound bites, Trump said Sanders will not overtake Clinton as the front-runner.

"I don't think he's going to get her. I think his performance was OK," he said. "He had to be much better than okay. He had to come out the clear winner. And he didn't."
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 15, 2015, 09:58:33 am
/me  sighs

No - it is because Bernie Sanders is a threat to his BEST FRIEND - Hillary Clinton.
Mate: come on; ya do not believe that Trump is in bed with Old Haggery? or do ya?

..I think Trump has a personality close to JFK---and this is WHY? the mangled media and some think he is a Turncoat!

...Trump will win The White House; and America and the world will be better off.

..This is show Time for Planet Earth!  8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 15, 2015, 12:33:01 pm
Mate: come on; ya do not believe that Trump is in bed with Old Haggery? or do ya?

..I think Trump has a personality close to JFK---and this is WHY? the mangled media and some think he is a Turncoat!

...Trump will win The White House; and America and the world will be better off.

..This is show Time for Planet Earth!  8)

LOOK IT UP

The Clintons really did attend Donald Trump's 2005 wedding
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/21/carlos-curbelo/clintons-really-did-attend-donald-trumps-2005-wedd/

Trump has spent years courting Hillary and other Dems
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/donald-trump-donations-democrats-hillary-clinton-119071

Donald Trump talked politics with Bill Clinton weeks before launching 2016 bid
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2015/08/05/National-Politics/Images/GettyImages-843167781438806851.jpg?uuid=Xge46juxEeWI0-YhMKzJdQ)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 12:41:59 pm
http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/15/cnn-reports-67-of-us-believe-trump-best-on-economy/

CNN Reports: 67% of US believe TRUMP best on economy

CNN reports from national polling data that 67% of Americans believe that Trump is best suited to take care of the economy, followed by Carly Fiorina at 7%. Clinton and Sanders barely register in the polls.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 12:45:32 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/donald-trump-poll-nevada-south-carolina-2015-10

Donald Trump's poll dominance in 2 key states is mind-blowing


Real-estate mogul Donald Trump has opened up large leads in the key early states of South Carolina and Nevada, according to new CNN/ORC polls.

But more impressive, amid an overall narrative that the front-runner’s poll numbers have plateaued over the past month, is his continued dominance of the issues.

In Nevada and South Carolina, at least, Trump is crushing his Republican counterparts on some of the issues most important to GOP voters.

When voters in Nevada were asked who could best handle…

The economy, 67% of Republicans in Nevada said Trump, 60 points ahead of his next-closest challenger, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina.
Foreign policy, 34% said Trump, about 20 points ahead of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida).
Illegal immigration, a whopping 55% said Trump.
ISIS, the terror group, 46% said Trump, 33 points above Rubio.

Moreover, 34% of Republican voters in Nevada said Trump “best represents” views of Republicans like themselves. And, significantly, 47% thought Trump would have the best chance of winning the general election next November. Nationally, that number has previously been much lower, with only 25% of Republican voters in a July poll saying they could see him winning the nomination.

And when GOP voters in South Carolina were asked who could best handle…

The economy, 59% said Trump, which put him more than 50 points ahead of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson.
Foreign policy, 27% said Trump.
Illegal immigration, 51% said Trump.
ISIS, 37% said Trump.

Additionally, 25% said Trump best represents the values of Republican voters like themselves. Another 58% said he’s most likely to “change the way things work in Washington.” And 44% thought he had the best chance of winning the general election next November.

Of all the numbers, Trump’s biggest perceived strength — the economy — might be the most important. Overall, 39% of GOP voters in Nevada and 41% in South Carolina said the economy would be the most important issue for them when they go to the polls.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 12:48:59 pm
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/15/watch-msnbc-panels-reaction-to-latest-round-of-polls-showing-donald-trump-dominating-key-states-big-issues/

Watch MSNBC Panel’s Reaction to Latest Round of Polls Showing Donald Trump Dominating Key States, Big Issues
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 01:07:17 pm
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/15/facts-figures-is-donald-trump-the-most-electable-republican/?_r=0


Facts & Figures: Is Donald Trump the Most Electable Republican?

A recent CNN/ORC poll asked likely Republican voters in Nevada and South Carolina which candidate stood the best chance of winning the presidency. The favorite in both states: Donald Trump.

Via The Washington Post:

“In Nevada, 47 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers said Trump ‘has the best chance of winning the general election next November.’ In South Carolina, that number is 44 percent. In both states, Ben Carson is a distant second to Trump on the question; Carson got 16 percent in Nevada and 17 percent in South Carolina.

[…]

“The fact that more than 4 in 10 likely Republican voters believe Trump is the guy who can win back the White House for the GOP should be a wake up call/reality check for many establishment Republicans who continue to roll their eyes at the idea of Trump actually emerging as their party’s standard-bearer.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 01:19:28 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/15/donald-trump-campaign-raises-specter-of-boycotting-next-debate/

Donald Trump Campaign Raises Specter of Boycotting Next Debate

An aide to Donald J. Trump has raised the possibility of the candidate not attending the next Republican presidential debate unless the criteria set by CNBC is changed, according to two people briefed on a conference call where the matter was discussed on Thursday.

Several campaigns are unhappy with the criteria that has been set by CNBC, including the lack of opening and closing statements, and, as of now, the lack of a set length of time for the Oct. 28 debate at the Coors Events Center in Boulder, Colo., according to those briefed.

The concerns were aired in an initial conference call held on Wednesday that was reported by Politico. Aides to Ben Carson and Senator Rand Paul expressed unhappiness on that call, as did representatives of other campaigns.

So in a follow-up call held on Thursday, aides to Senator Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee joined in seeking to clarify the rules. And Corey Lewandowski, the campaign manager for Mr. Trump, raised the possibility that the candidate may not attend if the criteria isn’t changed, the people briefed on the call said.

Mr. Lewandowski, in an interview, said: “The criteria that was outlined by CNBC was never discussed with any of the candidates or the campaigns. So what CNBC did was send out a memo and said, ‘Here’s the criteria as you have approved them and that went out to all the campaigns. We said we never agreed to this criteria.'”

He said he had not taken part in the call on Wednesday. But he said that CNBC is supposed to address solutions.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 15, 2015, 01:21:40 pm
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-2016-213248

The Quiet Power Behind the Trump Throne

You will not find a wall adorned with framed magazine covers in Ivanka Trump’s office. For that sort of thing you’ll have to visit her father, who can look up from his desk and see himself beaming down from Time and Playboy. In fact, on the day we met for a conversation about my biography of Donald Trump, Ivanka, 33, had placed a framed article about herself on the floor. That’s not to say that the former model, and current fashion and real estate exec doesn’t revel in her fair share of the spotlight. Ivanka’s face has adorned magazine covers for years, from Seventeen to Shape to Harper’s Bazaar. But, unlike the father, the daughter seems so secure about herself and her prominence that she doesn’t need to brag. As the second-most famous member of a family that all but fetishizes good breeding—brother Donald Jr. calls it the “racehorse theory” of talent—Ivanka seems to be missing the desperation gene that drives her father’s constant pursuit of clicks and clippings.

On the campaign, Ivanka Trump, who grew up playing in her father’s office, is his most influential adviser, his de facto first lady in waiting and his character foil: the cautious, measured power behind the striving, showy candidate. She was the first person Trump mentioned by name when Sean Hannity asked in August, “Is there anyone close to you that you count on most?” and the member of his inner circle whom he consulted during the Megyn Kelly imbroglio. And when Trump announced his candidacy in June, it was Ivanka who introduced her father, while his wife, the former Melania Knauss—a less public person save for her sometimes racy work as a fashion model—stood in the background. As the crowd cheered, the candidate’s daughter flashed a telegenic style that is more polished than her father’s blend of Archie Bunker and Jay Gatsby and far more self-assured. She is the softer, more refined side of the Trump brand and an antidote to the candidate’s abrasiveness.

Father and daughter meet the world with vastly different styles. Where Donald speaks in a stream-of-consciousness manner that sometimes lurches into the absurd and often gets him in trouble, Ivanka is extremely careful in her public statements. She consistently strikes the proper notes when asked about her father, praising his record and avoiding controversy. She acknowledges that her father turns to her for advice and insists that she wouldn’t be where she is in life if her father didn’t “deeply believe in opportunities for women.” Yesterday, she told a forum in Washington that the Kelley-Trump dustup had been “sensationalized” and that “it didn’t interest me that much.” “Look, my father is very blunt,” she said last night during an interview with CNN. “He is not gender specific in his criticism of people.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 21, 2015, 07:14:45 am


… interview on ABC:


Donald Trump Leads in Expectations,
Shows Strength on Attributes (POLL)

By JULIE PHELAN
Oct 21, 2015, 7:00 AM ET

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/ABCWashPostPolls_Expectations_1021.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/ABCWashPostPolls_Expectations_1021.png.html)

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/ABCWashPostPolls_AttributesTable_1021.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/ABCWashPostPolls_AttributesTable_1021.png.html)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-leads-expectations-shows-strength-attributes-poll/story?id=34599211
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 05:00:06 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/20/poll-trump-reaches-51-percent-new-poll-counting-second-choices/

  Time for the also RANDS to pack it in.

POLL: TRUMP REACHES 51 PERCENT IN NEW POLL, COUNTING SECOND CHOICES
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 21, 2015, 05:21:15 pm
Mrs Browwn
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 09:55:23 pm
Mrs Browwn

  ?
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 09:56:06 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/21/at-the-third-Republican-debate

At the third Republican debate, Donald Trump will again be the center of attention
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 09:58:56 pm
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/19/donald-trump-maintains-lead-over-gop-field-nbc-wsj-poll.html

  Time for the bottom dwellers to get out.

Donald Trump maintains lead over GOP field: NBC-WSJ poll


The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll shows the billionaire real estate mogul still leading all GOP rivals with 25 percent of the vote. In September, he drew 21 percent. That change falls within 4.9 percent margin for error in the survey of 400 Republican primary voters.

As in September, the October poll showed former neurosurgeon Ben Carson in second place with 22 percent. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida ranked third with 13 percent, ahead of Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas with 9 percent and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 8 percent. Trailing behind were former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina with 7 percent, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Ohio Gov. John Kasich with 3 percent, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky with 2 percent and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie with 1 percent.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 10:00:03 pm
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/jeb-bush-wont-stand-next-to-donald-trump-in-next-debate----marco-rubio-will/2250740

Jeb Bush won't stand next to Donald Trump in next debate -- Marco Rubio will
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 10:08:58 pm
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary

  MORNING CONSULT POLL

TRUMP 40%

CARSON 14%

RUBIO 5%

BUSH 6%

CRUZ 5%

FIORINA 3%
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 11:43:23 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/politics/donald-trump-poll-jeb-bush-abc-news/

  from CNN--the Clinton News Network


GOP primary poll: Donald Trump on top with 32%
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 11:44:41 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-loved-republicans-call-divisive-idiot/story?id=34631953

Donald Trump Still Loved by Republicans Who Call Him Divisive and Sometimes 'an Idiot'
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 11:45:36 pm
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/10/trump-open-to-closing-mosques


Donald Trump Says He Would Consider Closing Down Some US Mosques
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 21, 2015, 11:47:09 pm
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/21/what-donald-trump-would-absolutely-do-to-those-who-leave-america-to-fight-for-the-islamic-state/


What Donald Trump Would ‘Absolutely’ Do to Those Who Leave America to Fight for the Islamic State


Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump said he would “absolutely” revoke the passports of those who leave America to fight for the Islamic State — and he’d possibly close mosques to fight against the extremist group as well.

Fox Business host Stuart Varney mentioned during an on-camera phone interview with Trump on Tuesday that the United Kingdom has a new set of proposals to deal with those who leave the country to fight for the Islamic State. As Varney mentioned the withdrawing of passports, Trump interjected in the middle of his sentence, “Absolutely … good.”

Varney continued his observation, mentioning that the UK is also proposing the closure of mosques. He then asked Trump, “Would you do the same thing in America?”

“I would do that, absolutely,” Trump answered. “I think it’s great.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 22, 2015, 07:56:47 am
Did Trump sign the anti-Bilderberg pledge yet ?

If not why are we wasting our time.

Start covering some Constitution Party candidates. I think Chuck Baldwin is in the running again.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 22, 2015, 09:03:46 am
Did Trump sign the anti-Bilderberg pledge yet ?

If not why are we wasting our time.

Start covering some Constitution Party candidates. I think Chuck Baldwin is in the running again.

^ ^ ^

 Chuck Baldwin of the NEPHILIM Party?  ;D

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 22, 2015, 11:03:49 am
Did Trump sign the anti-Bilderberg pledge yet ?

If not why are we wasting our time.

Start covering some Constitution Party candidates. I think Chuck Baldwin is in the running again.

  You start covering them. I am not going to waste my time with Baldwin.  You need to get real.  Ron Paul received the delegates of 4 states in the last election.

  Baldwin does not have a prayer.  He will be lucky to win his own county---Flathead County, Montana.

  I meet with 120 Veterans and we never speak of Baldwin.  We live less than 100 miles from Baldwin.  Though I believe in what his party stands for, he has less than a snowball's chance in hell to win one state.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 22, 2015, 11:06:11 am
^ ^ ^

 Chuck Baldwin of the NEPHILIM Party?  ;D

  Good one Jackson Holly.  You are the first person here to spell Nephilim correctly.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on October 22, 2015, 11:39:55 am
Did Trump sign the anti-Bilderberg pledge yet ?

If not why are we wasting our time.

Start covering some Constitution Party candidates. I think Chuck Baldwin is in the running again.

 ;D
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 22, 2015, 12:20:23 pm
You start covering them. I am not going to waste my time with Baldwin.  You need to get real.  Ron Paul received the delegates of 4 states in the last election.

  Baldwin does not have a prayer.  He will be lucky to win his own county---Flathead County, Montana.

  I meet with 120 Veterans and we never speak of Baldwin.  We live less than 100 miles from Baldwin.  Though I believe in what his party stands for, he has less than a snowball's chance in hell to win one state.

WHY ?  ANSWER  ALMOST EVERYONE BOWS DOWN TO THE REP/DEM one party no difference policies, including most here in Prison Planet Forum.  Just can't believe that the party is bigger than the candidate,  I like a lot of TRUMPS sayings,  IF he gets the nomination, how many really believe he will have the power to change things.  If there is to be a turn around it should start with a 2nd choice(3rd party). 

   I agree 100% with Larsonstdoc that Baldwin wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell under the present system.  But someone in a 3rd party will get my vote.  As yet I'm undecided.
 
Was all for trump until he signed the pledge not to run 3rd party.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 22, 2015, 12:43:03 pm
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2574484?utm_content=bufferbda81&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


Poll: Trump beats Hillary Clinton 38%-36%

Outspoken Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump beats Democrat Hillary Clinton in a head-to-head battle by two points in a newly released national poll.

A Rasmussen Reports survey has Trump winning 38 percent to 36 percent, with 22 percent of likely voters going to a "some other candidate."

The results show that Clinton remains in some trouble with the general electorate, but also that many voters are still looking for somebody else to vote for.

Clinton wins 70 percent of Democrats, but another 30 percent are looking for an alternative. Trump wins among men, while Clinton takes the most women.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on October 22, 2015, 01:08:16 pm
https://www.dollarvigilante.com/blog/2015/08/08/rand-paul-donald-trump-admit-to-briberycorruption-and-no-one-notices.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 23, 2015, 04:52:38 am
can some one confirm ?

like they all took bribes from trump - even rand paul ?
cripes


always suspected, but still shocking
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 23, 2015, 11:49:27 am
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/insiders-trump-nomination-looking-more-likely-215087

Insiders: Trump nomination looking more likely

Eighty-one percent of Republican insiders say that the likelihood that Trump becomes their party’s nominee is more today than it was a month ago.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on October 23, 2015, 01:17:14 pm
(http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af266/EvadingGrid/11888035_856533051132216_3554115946612884437_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 23, 2015, 01:37:32 pm
(http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af266/EvadingGrid/11888035_856533051132216_3554115946612884437_n.jpg)

  We really have no choice here in America, MIA.

  Trump or Hilldog?  Hilldog is eviler than Obama.  She wants our guns but she won't get them.  She wants more abortions and she wants to hand everything to the LGBT'ers.  WE ARE SO SCREWED.

  No, I am not going to waste my vote on a 3rd Party candidate. 

  We people here in Montana usually vote for the Republican.  It's not your vote that counts.  It's who wins the Electoral College.

  So it comes down to a few states---Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio and a few others.

  As stated before, I am voting for Trump because of his stand on immigration and his saying that he will help
  the Veterans. 

  I was in the emergency room at the Oklahoma City Va and they wouldn't even see a Veteran who had all the symptoms of a heart attack.  Things have got to change.


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 23, 2015, 03:30:19 pm
Ok fine maybe not Baldwin but someone on the CP ticket.

Also FYI there is nothing "cool" about being manipulated by Globalists or their Nefilim masters.

America can't get 3rd party candidates elected because America is doing so well 15 years into this FED engineered depression.  I'll tell you one thing...  America wishes they had elected Chuck Baldwin and Darrel Castle back in 2008.  The FED would be history and America would see properity again.

The very fact there are all these pages dedicated to Trump and we have no Libertarian, Constitutionist, Reform Party, Justice Party candidate threads speaks volumes.

Apparently Prison Planet is just going to succumb to whatever the Republicans spew out.  Cuz that's the new psych-tactic by the Nefilim and Globalists.  Make the Republicans look like the outsiders, pander to infowarriors and take the election in 2016.

The best psychological manipulation is the one that goes unnoticed.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 23, 2015, 03:39:02 pm
(http://www.dispatchtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/AP-Photo-Richard-DrewDonald-Tr.jpg)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/22/20-reasons-donald-trump-2016/
20 Reasons Why It Should Be Donald Trump in 2016

by A.J. Delgado 22 Oct 20153,405

It isn’t “acceptable” in polite society to support Donald Trump, I am told.

America’s bullies – the sneering, “we know better than you” establishment classes – have made many cower in silence rather than proclaim that Trump is a tremendous presidential candidate and has earned their support.

It is a replay of the worst aspects of high school peer-pressure, about what’s OK and what isn’t, based on selfish interests and prejudices.

Well, enough of that. Trump is already changing America for the better – and is encouraging us to boldly stand up for our beliefs about what’s best for our nation and best for our fellow Americans.

So let’s get right to it. Shifting America back on course requires Donald Trump as the Republican nominee. Not only is he the only Republican candidate who could win the general election, but he is the only choice Republican voters should consider (and should consider themselves lucky to have on their side).

In no particular order, here are the top 20 reasons why:
...
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 23, 2015, 03:53:10 pm
Ok fine maybe not Baldwin but someone on the CP ticket.

Also FYI there is nothing "cool" about being manipulated by Globalists or their Nefilim masters.

America can't get 3rd party candidates elected because America is doing so well 15 years into this FED engineered depression.  I'll tell you one thing...  America wishes they had elected Chuck Baldwin and Darrel Castle back in 2008.  The FED would be history and America would see properity again.

The very fact there are all these pages dedicated to Trump and we have no Libertarian, Constitutionist, Reform Party, Justice Party candidate threads speaks volumes.

Apparently Prison Planet is just going to succumb to whatever the Republicans spew out.  Cuz that's the new psych-tactic by the Nefilim and Globalists.  Make the Republicans look like the outsiders, pander to infowarriors and take the election in 2016.

The best psychological manipulation is the one that goes unnoticed.

it is sad

btw The Times London said today that conspiracy theories are SOCIALIST !!!!

watch how infowars handle that !
they won't touch it, because its LEFT WING

makes me wanna cry


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 23, 2015, 04:47:01 pm


The very fact there are all these pages dedicated to Trump and we have no Libertarian, Constitutionist, Reform Party, Justice Party candidate threads speaks volumes.



  There is a portion of this forum where you can put in all the threads you want about these fantasy 3rd party candidates.  Get busy and start typing.

  Here is the link....
                  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=527.0
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 23, 2015, 05:37:47 pm
Versus voting for the 2 globalist parties and expecting changes.

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 23, 2015, 05:44:26 pm
Larsonstdoc
Quote
So it comes down to a few states---Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio and a few others.

Speaking from  Pa.  western part of state conservative  Unfortunately Philadelphia/Allentown carries Pa.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 23, 2015, 05:49:10 pm
Quote
The very fact there are all these pages dedicated to Trump and we have no Libertarian, Constitutionist, Reform Party, Justice Party candidate threads speaks volumes.

I agree with larsonstdoc   .  START ONE.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 23, 2015, 05:53:37 pm
Larsonstdoc
Speaking from  Pa.  western part of state conservative  Unfortunately Philadelphia/Allentown carries Pa.

  A lot of states are like that.

  Western Iowa is conservative and Eastern Iowa is liberal.  Eastern Iowa is where Iowa City is---the third highest concentration of homosexuals and lesbians in the USA.

  Western Washington state is liberal and Eastern Washington is conservative.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 23, 2015, 06:50:38 pm
Larsonstdoc
Quote
As stated before, I am voting for Trump because of his stand on immigration and his saying that he will help
  the Veterans
.

Like I stated before rep/dem no difference,  Did not Obama mention how bad the veterans  are treated?   
Quote
The young men and women who choose to serve are defending the very rights and freedoms that allow Americans to speak out against government actions we oppose. They deserve our admiration, respect and enduring gratitude.

At the same time, we must never forget that honoring this service and upholding these ideals requires more than saluting our veterans as they march by on Veterans Day or Memorial Day. It requires marching with them for the care and benefits they have earned It requires standing shoulder-to-shoulder with our veterans and their families after the guns fall silent and the cameras are turned off. At a time when we're facing the largest homecoming since the Second World War, the true test of our patriotism is whether we will serve our returning heroes as well as they've served us.
  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_speaks_in_west_virginia.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_speaks_in_west_virginia.html)

When he(Trump) signed the pledge he signed up for whatever hes told to say to win. It does sound good, but he has to do what he is told now.

What did Georgey porgie say about the vets..
Quote
“We’ve got a problem,” Bush said during the ABC interview. “Too many vets are unemployed, and there’s what we call a civilian/military divide. In other words, the returning vets think one thing and the civilian population thinks another. Our aim is to get people to understand each other better for the benefit of the veteran community.”
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/george-w-bush-drop-the-d-ptsd (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/george-w-bush-drop-the-d-ptsd)


SAME OLD SAME OLD


Larsonstdoc
Quote
No, I am not going to waste my vote on a 3rd Party candidate.

Really?




Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: iamc2 on October 24, 2015, 04:31:35 am
 Trump continue to gain Voters, everyday!

..all the younger folks [25-40] I speak with are going to Vote for Trump...and that is enough to send him to the White House!

..the folks in this are bracket are SICK of all the BS form the DC insiders and this time around they WILL make a BIG difference at the Voting Box.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 24, 2015, 02:20:13 pm
Well if Trump does get elected he will solve unemployment by getting America involved in WW3, just like the Globalists and the Nefilim want him too....

Reduce the population and reduce unemployment just like the Monarchs of old did.

You know what America, all the CP ( www.constitutionparty.com )can do is offer you a better option but if you want to be manipulated yet again by the Nefilim and their Globalist kakistocrats then have at it.

Fortunately the states will keep the Globalists restricted to DC.

However there are enough stupid people to do the Globalists bidding so.....
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 02:48:18 pm


Really?

  REALLY.  Take it to the bank.  I will not vote 3rd party this year-----Johnson, McKinney, Baldwin---all less than .0001 %er's.

  Still nobody here that has posted for these fantasy candidates.  Go to 2016 Elections and start posting for them.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 02:53:33 pm
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/24/more-gop-and-democratic-insiders-think-donald-trump-is-the-one/


More GOP and Democratic insiders think Donald Trump is “the one”
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 02:55:53 pm
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-demands-super-pacs-return-money-386901


Donald Trump Demands Super PACs Supporting Him Return Money
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 02:57:21 pm
http://www.westernjournalism.com/listen-donald-trump-responded-to-hillarys-benghazi-testimony-in-the-perfect-way/


Donald Trump Responded To Hillary’s Benghazi Testimony In The Perfect Way
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 02:59:58 pm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-23/gops-biggest-nightmare-coming-true-jeb-out-cash-insiders-say-trump-nomination-almost


The GOP's Nightmare Is Coming True: With Jeb Out Of Cash, Insiders Say Trump Nomination Almost Certain
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 24, 2015, 03:02:05 pm
Tune in tomorrow as this Globalist Soap-Box Opera continues....
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 24, 2015, 03:02:56 pm
http://www.constitutionparty.com/get-involved/events/

 8) 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 03:15:24 pm
Tune in tomorrow as this Globalist Soap-Box Opera continues....

  Right you are.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 24, 2015, 03:31:40 pm
  REALLY.  Take it to the bank.  I will not vote 3rd party this year-----Johnson, McKinney, Baldwin---all less than .0001 %er's.

  Still nobody here that has posted for these fantasy candidates.  Go to 2016 Elections and start posting for them.

You missed the point,  why you said you would vote for trump, veterans and immigration,  same message time and time again,  Obama, George 2, and i'm sure Clinton and bush1 before them.
     I know the 3rd parties don't stand a chance in hell, but not much difference on wasting a vote.

If nominated I expect Trump would win.  But changes ?

   
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 24, 2015, 03:38:22 pm
Tune in tomorrow as this Globalist Soap-Box Opera continues....

Indeed it will. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 24, 2015, 03:40:42 pm
  REALLY.  Take it to the bank.  I will not vote 3rd party this year-----Johnson, McKinney, Baldwin---all less than .0001 %er's.

  Still nobody here that has posted for these fantasy candidates.  Go to 2016 Elections and start posting for them.

Done and done    !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 03:47:48 pm
You missed the point,  why you said you would vote for Trump, veterans and immigration,  same message time and time again,  Obama, George 2, and i'm sure Clinton and Bush1 before them.
     I know the 3rd parties don't stand a chance in hell, but not much difference on wasting a vote.

 
Can you prove Trump will be the same as the others on immigration and the VA?  You can't.  You can only speculate. Your reasoning is banal.

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 03:50:33 pm
Done and done    !!!!!!!!

  Congratulations. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 24, 2015, 03:55:34 pm
Now will it get any Infowars News coverage ?

Infowars has got its own studio and thanks to youtube they can cover the CP event and we can make it viral.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 24, 2015, 04:00:20 pm
 
Can you prove Trump will be the same as the others on immigration and the VA?  You can't.  You can only speculate. Your reasoning is banal.

He can only do what the party allows him to. I sure hope my speculation is wrong, My reasoning is based on the past 20 to 30 years  dem or rep. no difference.

Hell now that I think of it past 50 years at least for the vietnam vets.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 24, 2015, 04:09:55 pm
Now will it get any Infowars News coverage ?

Infowars has got its own studio and thanks to youtube they can cover the CP event and we can make it viral.

  They might.  There is someone here that knows who to email.  I am not sure who it is.  It could be MIA or TahoeBlue.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 24, 2015, 07:56:10 pm
… say what?   8)

Believe it: 'Back to the Future'
predicted Trump's run

Andrea Mandell, USA TODAY

In the midst of celebrating the arrival of the future, one unbelievable tale has emerged: Back to the Future II actually predicted Donald Trump's current presidential campaign.

You read that right.

Back to the Future II screenwriter Bob Gale told the Daily Beast that Marty McFly's arch nemesis, the wealthy villain Biff Tannen, who turns his fortunes (among them, casino) into a quest for political power was...based on The Donald.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2015/10/21/believe-back-future-predicted-trumps-run/74359844/

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/trump-the-future-biff-tannen-meant-donald-trump-runs-for-pre-politics-1440928310.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/trump-the-future-biff-tannen-meant-donald-trump-runs-for-pre-politics-1440928310.jpg.html)

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/post-65444-biff-tannens-pleasure-paradise-AsNr.jpeg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/post-65444-biff-tannens-pleasure-paradise-AsNr.jpeg.html)

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/177045-don-trumps-pleasure-paradise-m-MfRl.jpeg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/177045-don-trumps-pleasure-paradise-m-MfRl.jpeg.html)




Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 24, 2015, 10:19:39 pm
True or not I do not know  but worth thinking about.

HOW TRUMP IS BEING SET UP BY ILLUMINATI TO WIN


Quote


OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS AND WEEKS I HAD REFRAINED FROM SPEAKING ABOUT THE "TRUMP ANGLE." BY THIS I MEAN WHAT WAS THE ANGLE THE ILLUMINATI WERE HOPING TO ACHIEVE WITH HAVING TRUMP IN AS A CANDIDATE? WERE THEY HOPING TO DISTRACT? HOPING TO WIN? OR JUST HOPING TO TAKE VOTES AWAY FROM PEOPLE LIKE TED CRUZ AND RAND PAUL?
 INITIALLY I BELIEVED THAT IT WAS MORE LIKELY THAT HE WAS A DISTRACTION AND THAT HE WAS BEING PUT INTO PLACE TO DIVERT ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE LIKES OF THE TEA PARTY AND THEIR CANDIDATES, LIKE PAUL AND CRUZ.
 HE HAS DONE THIS AND MORE!
 TRUMP LIKES TO BRAG THAT HE DOESNT NEED "BIG MONEY" ELITES, BECAUSE HE CAN USE HIS OWN MONEY, AND THEREFORE HE WON'T BE UNDERMINED BY BIG MONEY INTERESTS.
 THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER THOUGH IS THAT HE HIMSELF IS A "BIG MONEY" INTEREST HIMSELF! HE HAS CONNECTIONS WITH THE BUSHES, THE CLINTONS,
 AND DOZENS OF OTHER ILLUMINATI ELITE TIES.
 THE FACT THAT ALL MEDIA OUTLETS ARE CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT HIM IS NO COINCIDENCE! WHETHER IT'S ON CNN, THE RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOW, THE MAIN NETWORKS, HE'S ON ALL OF THESE OUTLETS.
 THIS IS HOW THEY ARE POSITIONING TRUMP TO WIN:


FIRST OF ALL, THE ILLUMINATI KNOW AND ARE AWARE THAT PEOPLE IN THE MAJORITY ARE AWARE AND AWAKE AS TO THEIR USUAL PUPPETS. CLINTON, BUSH, GRAHAM, ETC. THEY REALIZE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE KNOW WHO IT IS THAT THEY BACK, SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY SELECT A GUY LIKE TRUMP THAT IS NOT A LIFE LONG POLITICIAN AND SAYS ALL OF THE RIGHT SOUNDING THINGS.


SECONDLY, REMEMBER THE HEGELIAN DIALECTIC! I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS DIALECTICAL FORMULA THAT THE ILLUMINATI USE FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS, AND WE ARE SEEING THIS FORMULA BEING USED PERFECTLY WITH TRUMP. HOW MIGHT YOU ASK?


 THINK ABOUT THIS, EVERYTIME TRUMP SPEAKS HE REFERENCES ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS PURPOSEFULLY DONE OVER THE PAST 7 YEARS THAT ARE EXTREMELY UNPOPULAR WITH THE MASSES.
 OBAMACARE, THE BAILOUTS, EXECUTIVE AMNESTY AND THE RELATED IMMIGRATION POLICY, BENGAHZI, AND NOW THE IRAN DEAL.
 ALSO, NOTE HOW HE'S CONSTANTLY SAYING, "I'M NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT!" THIS TOO IS BY DESIGN. IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE ILLUMINATI HAVE CAREFULLY RESEARCHED AND POLLED WHAT IT IS MOST PEOPLE ARE ANGRY ABOUT AND WHAT MANY PEOPLE CLAIM THEY ARE TIRED OF, AND THEN THEY HAVE TRUMP ADDRESS EVERY ONE OF THESE ISSUES.


 REMEMBER, THE ILLUMINATI PURPOSEFULLY ADVOCATE REALLY UNPOPULAR POLICIES THROUGH WHATEVER PUPPET IS IN OFFICE AT THE TIME, IN ORDER SO THAT WHEN THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL PUPPET COMES ALONG, PEOPLE WILL VOTE FOR THAT PERSON BASED ON HIS PROMISES ABOUT REFORMING OR DOING AWAY WITH THE FORMER'S LAWS, POLICIES AND DEALS.


 THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. ALSO, PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT TRUMP IS SAYING ABOUT MEXICO AND THE IRAN DEAL. THIS IS KEY IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE ILLUMINATI ARE SETTING HIM UP TO WIN.
 TRUMP IS HAMMERING MEXICO AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FROM MEXICO.
 THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA DOES THEIR PART IN SUPPORTING TRUMP'S POSITIONS BY CONSTANTLY COVERING AND UNCOVERING STORIES REGARDING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMMITING ALL TYPES OF HEINOUS CRIMES. THIS IS ALL BY DESIGN.
 THE MORE HE TALKS ABOUT THIS ISSUE, THE MORE YOU HEAR ABOUT IT ON THE NEWS.
 ALSO, HE IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT A HORRIBLE DEAL THIS IRAN DEAL IS. THIS IS ALSO BY DESIGN BECAUSE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, IN ORDER TO SET HIM UP PERFECTLY TO HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THIS ISSUE IS THAT SOMETHING IS PLANNED TO OCCUR THAT WILL BE BLAMED ON THIS IRAN DEAL.
 THIS WILL ENABLE TRUMP TO SAY, "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO! I WAS RIGHT!"


 IT IS VERY EASY TO SEE HOW THE ILLUMINATI ARE SETTING UP THE T-BALLS FOR TRUMP TO KNOCK OUT OF THE BALL PARK.
 
continues: scroll down when link pops up...http://prophecyinthemaking.blogspot.com/2015/08/donald-trump-illuminatis-man.html






Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 24, 2015, 11:24:02 pm
Exactly..... Go with the Constitution Party candidates.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 25, 2015, 09:23:31 am
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20151025/us-ap-poll-gop-2016-27a80beeda.html


70 % of Republicans view Donald Trump as most electable
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Pirate on October 25, 2015, 11:16:00 am
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20151025/us-ap-poll-gop-2016-27a80beeda.html


70 % of Republicans view Donald Trump as most electable


so what ?

its called 'preaching to the converted' . . .

to win an election the republican has to persuade people who Vote 4 Obama - to change sides.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on October 25, 2015, 08:49:47 pm
From one globocrat party to another....

Give me a friggen break.

 ::)
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 26, 2015, 09:32:27 am
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/politics/donald-trump-republican-establishment/


Donald Trump vs. the Republican establishment
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 26, 2015, 09:58:49 am
http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/25/trump-successfully-pressures-ford-to-move-mexican-plant-to-ohio/


Trump successfully pressures Ford to move Mexican plant to Ohio
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 26, 2015, 10:54:27 am
^^^^^

… he is ALREADY weilding a great power!


Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 26, 2015, 12:57:58 pm
^^^^^

… he is ALREADY weilding a great power!

or whopper falsehoods!  Kasich: I Brought Ford Jobs Back, Not Trump 




Quote
GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump claimed credit Sunday for Ford Motor Company's plans to move a production plant from Mexico to Ohio.

 Trump has been calling out Ford during his campaign, saying the automaker plans to move jobs from Michigan to Mexico, but Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who also is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, says the move from Mexico to Ohio had nothing to Trump's demands.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trump-kasich-ford-mexico/2015/10/25/id/698947/#ixzz3phKvtBX0
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 26, 2015, 01:00:24 pm
^ ^ ^


… maybe a nice bit of coincidence.  :o

Very good sign/omen, though … I hope the
ENTIRE US motor industry returns!

Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 26, 2015, 01:46:58 pm
^^ I also!!!!
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: egypt on October 26, 2015, 02:42:41 pm
Donald Trump just might make a good President.  Hillary is out of the question.  We need to worry about local government where our vote and say, as The People,  count.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 26, 2015, 04:11:27 pm
^^^^^

… he is ALREADY weilding a great power!

  Just the idea that Trump talked about Ford helped in their decision.

  Yes, I believe that Trump will throw a penalty on these auto makers if they make their cars in China or elsewhere.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 26, 2015, 04:21:05 pm
Donald Trump just might make a good President.  Hillary is out of the question.  We need to worry about local government where our vote and say, as The People,  count.

  Yes, Hillary is out of the question.  She is eviler than Obama.  At this moment in time there are only a few people that are electable by poll numbers---Hillary, Trump, Sanders, Carson and the dark horse Rubio.  As time goes on 2 or three of these people will drop out.  I don't see anybody else emerging from the pond scum.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 26, 2015, 04:30:54 pm
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-saturday-night-live-host-20151026-story.html

  Why do the Latinos even care?  Most of them don't even speak English.  SNL is not going to dump Trump.  They need the advertising money. 

  FYI---The Los Angeles Times is a liberal rag that will side with Hillary---who is getting 90% of the money that Hollywood is spending on this election. 


Calls for 'SNL' to dump Donald Trump grow louder

Donald Trump is scheduled to host "Saturday Night Live" on Nov. 7, but if a growing chorus of critics have their way, he won't be.

Latino advocacy groups, politicians and some media observers are calling for NBC to disinvite the tycoon turned reality TV star turned Republican presidential front-runner from the gig, citing inflammatory remarks Trump made about Mexican immigrants in the speech announcing his White House run in June.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 26, 2015, 05:32:41 pm


… found this at RENSE.COM.
   ;D

Trump - A Master Negotiator...Look
Source Unknown  10-26-15
 
When Trump purchased and rebuilt Mar-A-Lago, the Grand mansion and estate In Palm Beach, Florida; he got into a dispute with the city, who are well known for being strict on zoning regulations.

Trump put up a 50 foot flag pole even though 30 foot is the maximum allowed. The city imposed a $1,000 dollar fine per day.

While Trump and the city argued back and forth, finally when the fine had reached $120,000 dollars Trump proposed a solution.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/ATT0000d4.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/ATT0000d4.jpg.html)

He would donate that amount to veterans organizations, would move the flag and pole to a different location in front of the mansion and would only use a 30 foot flag pole. The city agreed.So Trump brought in the company who does Golf course construction had them build a 20 foot high grassy hill and put a 30 foot flag pole on top of that…

Thank you Mr. TRUMP for flying our flag high and donating to our veterans, you’re a TRUE AMERICAN.   Do you think Obama or Hillary would have done this?  Not a chance.

http://rense.com/general96/trumpmaster.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 26, 2015, 05:43:42 pm
^^^^That was the wonderful part,  was also thrown in as  part of the deal was he dropped his $25million lawsuit against the town.  Obama and Hillary wouldn't of done that either.

Quote
On October 3, 2006, Trump raised a 20-by-30-foot (6.1 by 9.1 m) American flag on an 80-foot (24 m) flagpole at Mar-a-Lago. Town zoning officials asked Trump to adhere to town zoning codes that limit flagpoles to a height of 42 feet (13 m).[10] This dispute led the town council of Palm Beach to charge Trump $1,250 for every day the flag at Mar-A-Lago remained. Trump filed a lawsuit against the town.[11] The flag pole incident was quietly resolved. The six-month stand-off ended as town officials agreed to a settlement that will lower the banner 10 feet (3.0 m) and move it away from the ocean. All fines were dropped and Trump contributed $100,000 to various charities for Iraq War veterans, the American flag or veterans' hospitals. Trump dropped his $25 million lawsuit against the town
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-A-Lago (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-A-Lago)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 29, 2015, 10:52:41 pm
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/10/29/hack_media_meme_trump_fading

  excerpt from the article below....

  Limbaugh--Hack Media Meme: Trump Fading

RUSH:  According to all the online polls, ladies and gentlemen, after the debate, some of them were scientific, some of them were not, but regardless, according to the all of the online polls, including Drudge and TIME and even CNBC's own poll, Donald Trump won that thing going away last night.  Now, a lot of people, "Rush, how can that be?"  And the media, "He didn't say much. He didn't insult anybody."  If you don't understand this -- this is the point I made earlier in the Jeb campaign not recognizing where they are, what they're up against, the nature of the electorate this time around.

Trump has established a bond with his voters.  There hasn't been anything happen that makes them lose any enthusiasm for him.  The media isn't gonna be able to do that. Other candidates aren't gonna be able to do that.  You're not gonna be able to beat Trump by taking him out.  The only way anybody's gonna beat Trump is being better than he is, which is as it should be.  The media thinks they can take anybody out they want to take out. So they're all: "Trump's in decline. Trump didn't show up last night. Trump was not nearly as bombastic. Trump wasn't who Trump is. Trump didn't insult Mexicans."  Doesn't matter.  Trump showed up. Trump was engaged. Trump had things to say and they made sense and he scored points, mission accomplished.  What do you people think, that he has to go out and insult people like that's what you think he does and that's why you think people like him?

I tell you, all of this is so insulting to me.  Trump's only there because we have a bunch of bigoted Republicans that hate Mexicans and Trump went out and tapped into it, and that's what they think, and that's why they don't deserve our attention and our time whatsoever on their networks for any amount of serious discussion about the next presidency and the future of this country because they are not interested in anything but their own bigotry, their own racism, their own small-mindedness.  The time has long passed that we need to stop catering to these people, as we though somehow need them.  Because that's the message of this campaign:  We don't need them.  The leaders in this campaign have done it despite the media and without them, and that is a good lesson for everybody to learn.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on October 29, 2015, 11:00:07 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/29/exclusive-donald-trump-rights-ship-on-immigration-demands-disney-rehire-workers-replaced-by-cheap-foreign-labor-calls-rubio-silicon-valleys-puppet/

  excerpt below....


EXCLUSIVE — DONALD TRUMP RIGHTS SHIP ON IMMIGRATION: DEMANDS DISNEY REHIRE WORKERS REPLACED BY CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR, CALLS RUBIO ‘SILICON VALLEY’S PUPPET’


BNN: The media has been filled with stories about companies flying in low-wage H-1B workers to replace American workers in tech jobs. Adding insult to injury, these American workers have been forced to train their replacements. If you were President, would you put a stop to this practice?

DT: Day one. This is why I got into this race. Because the everyday working person in this country is getting screwed. Lobbyists write the rules to benefit the rich and powerful. They buy off Senators like to help them get rich at the expense of working Americans by using H-1B visas–so called “high tech” visas–to replace American workers in all sorts of solid middle class jobs. If I am President, I will not issue any H-1B visas to companies that replace American workers and my Department of Justice will pursue action against them.

BNN: Hundreds of workers at Disney were forced to train their foreign replacements. But while Florida Senator Nelson rallied to their cause, Senator Rubio did not. While Nelson has called for an investigation, Rubio has not. While Nelson has called to reduce H-1Bs, Rubio has demanded more. Senator Rubio has been the top promoter in Congress for expanding the H-1B program even though millions American tech workers are out of jobs. Rubio’s new bill triples H-1Bs and has zero protections for American workers. Advocates for tech workers said Rubio’s bill would “destroy” the U.S. tech workforce. Rubio’s bill is even endorsed by the CEO of Disney. What do you think of Rubio’s bill?

DT: It’s a disaster. It would allow any company in America to replace any worker with cheaper foreign labor. It legalizes job theft. It gives companies the legal right to pass over Americans, displace Americans, or directly replace Americans for good-paying middle class jobs. More than 80 percent of these H-1Bs are paid less than the average wage. Senator Rubio works for the lobbyists, not for Americans. That is why he is receiving more money from Silicon Valley than any other candidate in this race. He is their puppet.

BNN: During the debate, Senator Rubio listed several protections he thought American workers should receive. But the New York Times said Rubio’s bill would does the opposite of what he said, and does not contain a single one of the protections he mentioned. Instead, his bill simply triples the number of H-1B visas given as low-wage substitutes to corporations. Does Rubio have a problem with the truth?

DT: Yes, Senator Rubio is incapable of telling the truth. He should be disqualified for dishonesty alone.

BNN: Do you think agree with Senator Rubio that there is a shortage of talented Americans?

DT: Rubio is dead wrong. America produces the best and brightest in the world. It’s time to stand up for own students–many of whom are racked with terrible, terrible debt and facing a disastrous job market. We are graduating two times more students in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) than find jobs in those fields every year. We have a surplus of talented Americans and we need them to get jobs first.

BNN: What should happen with the Florida workers who have been replaced?

DT: I am calling TODAY on Disney to hire back every one of the workers they replaced, and I am calling on Rubio to immediately rescind his sponsorship of the I-Squared bill and apologize to every Floridian for endorsing it. I am further calling on Rubio to return the money he has received from Silicon Valley CEOs and to donate the money to a charity helping unemployed Americans whose jobs Rubio has helped to destroy.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on October 31, 2015, 03:59:57 pm
Wonderful plan for vets.  from drudge:

Quote
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump on Saturday announced a plan to reform the veterans health system at a rally in Norfolk, Va.

 

“We’re going to take care of those wounded warriors and we’re going to take care of our vets better than anybody."he said, speaking in front the USS Wisconsin — the same spot where now-Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) was formally introduced as Mitt Romney’s running mate in 2012.

 




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Trump promised that in his administration, veterans would receive better healthcare more quickly.
 

"The plan will ensure our veterans get the care they need, wherever and whenever they need it," he said.

 

Trump said that he would institute policies that would see Veterans Affairs (VA) facilities competing with non-VA hospitals. He said that under his plan, any veteran could go to a doctor that accepts Medicare and receive care.

 

In a winding indictment of the VA system, he targeted Veterans Health Administration hospitals that came under fire in the last year for keeping long wait lists of veterans who needed crucial care.

 

“Think about me going to my doctor’s office and waiting four days,” he said. "If I wait 15 minutes, I’m angry as hell at the doctor.”

 

Trump said the VA system needed to be maintained but reformed.

“I don’t want to get rid of it, I want to supplement it," he said.

 

He promised to fire "the corrupt and incompetent VA executives who let our veterans down" and update the VA's policies to meet the needs of the younger veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

"The fact that many VA hospitals don’t permanently staff OB-GYN doctors shows an utter lack of respect for the growing number of female veterans,” Trump said, pledging that under his leadership, every VA hospital would have doctors specializing in women's health.

 

Veterans hospitals would, he added, put in place technology that connect patients to doctors and allows them to manage their care.

 

Trump, who appeared to break from his extemporaneous remarks to consult a document while speaking about his policy proposal, said he would also invest in policies to help ease the transition from active duty to civilian life.

 

He pledged to institute programs to help veterans start businesses and find employment, including by incentivizing companies to hire veterans.

 

His administration would also partner with non-profit organizations working on veterans issues, he said.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/258755-trump-lays-out-plan-to-reform-veterans-affairs (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/258755-trump-lays-out-plan-to-reform-veterans-affairs)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 01, 2015, 11:29:07 am
MAN, POOR GUY HAD IT ROUGH !!! ::) This side of the super rich is typical  he has no idea what rough is.

Quote
Donald Trump on Monday said his climb to the top of the business world hasn't been an easy one and depicted a $1 million loan from his father as "small."
video hits the truth pretty close.
http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/79821 (http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/79821)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 01, 2015, 01:34:53 pm
http://us.cnn.com/2015/10/31/politics/donald-trump-syria-super-pacs/index.html

  Obama better include toe tags and body bags with these troops.  50 troops into a country the size of Washington state.  Insanity.  Donald has it right.

Trump slams Obama over ground troops in Syria

Norfolk, Virginia (CNN)Donald Trump on Saturday knocked President Barack Obama's decision to deploy fewer than 50 Special Operations forces on the ground in Syria, suggesting the strategy is a half-measure.

"I think we have a president who just doesn't know what he's doing," Trump told CNN. "You either do it or you don't do it. Fifty people. He puts 50 people."

Trump did not say whether he would deploy more troops to Syria as president, but simply said, "You either do it or you don't do it."
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 01, 2015, 01:48:04 pm
Recent tweets from Mr. Trump....

Marco Rubio will not win. Weak on illegal immigration, strong on amnesty and has the appearance to killers of the world as a "lightweight".


Anybody that believes in strong borders and stopping illegal immigration cannot vote for Marco Rubio.


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on November 01, 2015, 02:23:42 pm
All Republicans except Rand Paul and Ben Carson are going to help the Globalists inundate America with foreigners to the point where the majority fails to support the Federated-Republic.  Divide and conquer is the Globalists' strategy.
Title: Re: Donald Trump - "The Deceiver" - 2016
Post by: Qster on November 01, 2015, 03:24:25 pm

… found this at RENSE.COM.
   ;D

Trump - A Master Negotiator...Look
Source Unknown  10-26-15
 

The President does not do the negotiating, that is done far in advance of any summit meeting.

I reckon that Trump would be out of his depth negotiating treaties and agreements anyway. He would be the guy who would have to sell it to the general public, and he'd be pretty good at that.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 01, 2015, 07:15:05 pm
 I'll say this again: 'Trump has had a change of heart; just as President JFK had!

...Trump is the Real Deal...' and he can put America back on TOP!

...all the folks I speak with: old & young: --- All understand the game---and Trump is their man to out smart the other players in THE GAME!

...Mr. Trump has already perplexed the Re-Dumb-Ya-Cans----and I think this is GOOD for our Nation!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on November 01, 2015, 08:21:32 pm
The minute he signs an anti-Bilderberg pledge I'll be on board.  I doubt he will do it.

I also doubt Alex will have him on to do it live on air.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 01, 2015, 09:32:36 pm
^^^


... can you imagine the DONALD at one
of those wussy build-a-burger meet-ups?
Dang ... THAT I would like to see!

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on November 02, 2015, 07:03:07 pm
Well I am fed up with False Saviors and moronic American voters.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 02, 2015, 07:53:20 pm
Trump is running this Re-Dumb-La-Cant's GROUP ... into a NEW area of American Politics---and this is a Good move!

We are now watching the Biggest mix in recent political history...


...will Trump win? I think he will...because he has perseverance! 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 03, 2015, 09:01:26 am
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news475.htm


NWV News -- Trump Vows to Reform the Veterans Administration - Stop Abuses

TRUMP VOWS TO REFORM THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION - STOP ABUSES


Trump vows to stop the hundreds of thousands of deaths of war veterans at the hands of Washington politicians

Literally hundreds of thousands of military veterans listed in the Department of Veterans Affairs enrollment system passed-away before bureaucrats finally processed their applications for life-saving healthcare, according to a report by the Office of the Inspector General at the Veteran's Administration in Washington, D.C.

In the midst of a heated presidential campaign cycle, most of the Republican Party and all of the Democratic Party candidates have basically ignored the accusations of gross negligence and even criminal activity within a system that is supposed to care for men and women who fought for their nation. For example, Hillary Clinton claims to be a progressive who cares about the American people, but she finds talking about "a war on women more important than helping men and women who actually fought in a real war, according to former U.S. Marine Sid Franes, who later served as a police officer. Franes believes the only candidate he believes is sincere about helping veterans is Donald Trump.

The VA's inspector general found that out of about 800,000 records stalled in the agency's system for managing healthcare enrollment, there were more than 307,000 records that belonged to veterans who had died months or years in the past. The inspector general said due to inadequacies in the quality of the data, the number of records did not represent all veterans pursuing their benefits in VA healthcare.

In addition, the agency's system for documenting whether a veteran was still alive or had died contributed to errors that included compensation being paid to veterans who already died and records claiming they had visited doctors when it was impossible since they were deceased.

The report reveals a "culture of mismanagement " within the VA's healthcare system, including a lack of oversight of records, computer problems within the records system, and a working system for identifying those veterans who dead. The inspector general that "the office responsible for enrollment has not effectively managed its business processes to ensure the consistent creation and maintenance of essential data."

The report said an internal VA investigation in 2010 found staffers had hidden veterans' applications in their desks so they could process them at a later time, but human resources later recommended the staffers responsible not be disciplined.

THE DONALD AND THE INCOMPETENT GOVERNMENT SYSTEM

During an enormous rally on Saturday for the man known by many as “The Donald” in Norfolk, Virginia, Trump told his supporters: “We’re going to take care of those wounded warriors and we’re going to take care of our vets better than anybody. [My] plan will ensure our veterans get the care they need, wherever and whenever they need it.”

Trump was referring to the only comprehensive plan addressing what should be one of the biggest scandals in the Obama administration. On his campaign website – www.donaldjtrump.com – his campaign team, including Gerri McDaniel, known to her colleagues as Geek Girl, posted a policy paper that if implemented would make life easier and longer for the men and women who politicians use as stage props, but never seem to care about their welfare, according to former U.S. Marine non-commissioned officer Sid Franes.

“Obama and his Democrat colleagues have as much affection for military personnel as they do for local police officers and sheriffs. I’ve seen their ‘love’ for warriors and cops and you can keep it. We are cannon fodder for their political schemes,” said Franes, who after eight years in the military resigned and became a police officer.

During the Virginia rally held on Saturday in front of the USS Wisconsin, Trump said, “I don’t want to get rid of it, I want to supplement it.” Yet he said he would fire “the corrupt and incompetent VA executives who let our veterans down.”

The GOP candidate, who is being denigrated by both the Democrat and Republican establishments, also blasted the VA for its lack of obstetric help for women, asserting, “The fact that many VA hospitals don’t permanently staff OB-GYN doctors shows an utter lack of respect for the growing number of female veterans.”

Trump also vowed, “We’re going to replace [the current medical facilities) with more effective ones to get our veterans working, which is what they want to do. We’re going to transform the VA to meet the needs of the current veterans. Exposing and addressing the VA’s inefficiencies and shortcomings will be rewarded, not punished. We’re going to find out why it’s going bad and we’re going to fix it.”

DEMOCRAT AND RINO POLITICIANS SHOULD GET OUT OF THE WAY?

"Polls of GOP rank and file show Trump is the presidential favorite. Trump and Ben Carson combined get 50% or more support. Establishment candidates should get out of the race. The people do not want them. All they can do is screw things up. Republicans should get behind Trump, demolish the wicked witch of the left and make America great again," said the man the Washington Post called the Gun Dean, John Snyder.

A recent Ipsos/Reuters online poll shows Trump at 29% and Ben Carson at 27% for a 56% total. An Economist/You Gov poll shows Trump at 32% and Carson at 18% for a 50% total. An IBD/TIPP poll shows Trump at 28% and Carson at 23% for a 51% total.



According to an AP-GfK poll, Republican registered voters say they prefer an outsider candidate to an insider by a 77% to 22% margin.

"The message is clear: Republicans want a change, a big change. They think successful New York businessman Trump can reinvigorate United States manufacturing, restore economic dominance and promote domestic job growth," declared Snyder, who is sits on the board of advisors for the National Association of Chiefs of Police, as well as the American Federation of Police and Concerned Citizens.

"GOP leaders should get the message. Let them drop the petty infighting and attack the promoters of gun control, abortion, international weakness and military indecisiveness in the Democrat party," said the former editor for the National Rifle Association (NRA) magazines.

Wake up, it's our last chance to save American Veterans. Please, make this article to go VIRAL. Send it to everyone you know.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 03, 2015, 05:25:25 pm
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news475.htm


NWV News -- Trump Vows to Reform the Veterans Administration - Stop Abuses

TRUMP VOWS TO REFORM THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION - STOP ABUSES


Trump vows to stop the hundreds of thousands of deaths of war veterans at the hands of Washington politicians

Literally hundreds of thousands of military veterans listed in the Department of Veterans Affairs enrollment system passed-away before bureaucrats finally processed their applications for life-saving healthcare, according to a report by the Office of the Inspector General at the Veteran's Administration in Washington, D.C.

In the midst of a heated presidential campaign cycle, most of the Republican Party and all of the Democratic Party candidates have basically ignored the accusations of gross negligence and even criminal activity within a system that is supposed to care for men and women who fought for their nation. For example, Hillary Clinton claims to be a progressive who cares about the American people, but she finds talking about "a war on women more important than helping men and women who actually fought in a real war, according to former U.S. Marine Sid Franes, who later served as a police officer. Franes believes the only candidate he believes is sincere about helping veterans is Donald Trump.

The VA's inspector general found that out of about 800,000 records stalled in the agency's system for managing healthcare enrollment, there were more than 307,000 records that belonged to veterans who had died months or years in the past. The inspector general said due to inadequacies in the quality of the data, the number of records did not represent all veterans pursuing their benefits in VA healthcare.

In addition, the agency's system for documenting whether a veteran was still alive or had died contributed to errors that included compensation being paid to veterans who already died and records claiming they had visited doctors when it was impossible since they were deceased.

The report reveals a "culture of mismanagement " within the VA's healthcare system, including a lack of oversight of records, computer problems within the records system, and a working system for identifying those veterans who dead. The inspector general that "the office responsible for enrollment has not effectively managed its business processes to ensure the consistent creation and maintenance of essential data."

The report said an internal VA investigation in 2010 found staffers had hidden veterans' applications in their desks so they could process them at a later time, but human resources later recommended the staffers responsible not be disciplined.

THE DONALD AND THE INCOMPETENT GOVERNMENT SYSTEM

During an enormous rally on Saturday for the man known by many as “The Donald” in Norfolk, Virginia, Trump told his supporters: “We’re going to take care of those wounded warriors and we’re going to take care of our vets better than anybody. [My] plan will ensure our veterans get the care they need, wherever and whenever they need it.”

Trump was referring to the only comprehensive plan addressing what should be one of the biggest scandals in the Obama administration. On his campaign website – www.donaldjtrump.com – his campaign team, including Gerri McDaniel, known to her colleagues as Geek Girl, posted a policy paper that if implemented would make life easier and longer for the men and women who politicians use as stage props, but never seem to care about their welfare, according to former U.S. Marine non-commissioned officer Sid Franes.

“Obama and his Democrat colleagues have as much affection for military personnel as they do for local police officers and sheriffs. I’ve seen their ‘love’ for warriors and cops and you can keep it. We are cannon fodder for their political schemes,” said Franes, who after eight years in the military resigned and became a police officer.

During the Virginia rally held on Saturday in front of the USS Wisconsin, Trump said, “I don’t want to get rid of it, I want to supplement it.” Yet he said he would fire “the corrupt and incompetent VA executives who let our veterans down.”

The GOP candidate, who is being denigrated by both the Democrat and Republican establishments, also blasted the VA for its lack of obstetric help for women, asserting, “The fact that many VA hospitals don’t permanently staff OB-GYN doctors shows an utter lack of respect for the growing number of female veterans.”

Trump also vowed, “We’re going to replace [the current medical facilities) with more effective ones to get our veterans working, which is what they want to do. We’re going to transform the VA to meet the needs of the current veterans. Exposing and addressing the VA’s inefficiencies and shortcomings will be rewarded, not punished. We’re going to find out why it’s going bad and we’re going to fix it.”

DEMOCRAT AND RINO POLITICIANS SHOULD GET OUT OF THE WAY?

"Polls of GOP rank and file show Trump is the presidential favorite. Trump and Ben Carson combined get 50% or more support. Establishment candidates should get out of the race. The people do not want them. All they can do is screw things up. Republicans should get behind Trump, demolish the wicked witch of the left and make America great again," said the man the Washington Post called the Gun Dean, John Snyder.

A recent Ipsos/Reuters online poll shows Trump at 29% and Ben Carson at 27% for a 56% total. An Economist/You Gov poll shows Trump at 32% and Carson at 18% for a 50% total. An IBD/TIPP poll shows Trump at 28% and Carson at 23% for a 51% total.



According to an AP-GfK poll, Republican registered voters say they prefer an outsider candidate to an insider by a 77% to 22% margin.

"The message is clear: Republicans want a change, a big change. They think successful New York businessman Trump can reinvigorate United States manufacturing, restore economic dominance and promote domestic job growth," declared Snyder, who is sits on the board of advisors for the National Association of Chiefs of Police, as well as the American Federation of Police and Concerned Citizens.

"GOP leaders should get the message. Let them drop the petty infighting and attack the promoters of gun control, abortion, international weakness and military indecisiveness in the Democrat party," said the former editor for the National Rifle Association (NRA) magazines.

Wake up, it's our last chance to save American Veterans. Please, make this article to go VIRAL. Send it to everyone you know.
Doc. nice info and I do believe Trump will HELP the VETS!

...I talk to folks everyday and the more I hear; The more I hear Trump---Good thing that Americans are telling the DC BS crowed  to GO TO HELL!

...The younger folks are Awake and they are Sick of Washington---The Game is Over for The Power Elite   8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 03, 2015, 11:03:56 pm
http://www.amazon.com/Crippled-America-Make-Great-Again/product-reviews/1501137964/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#RVIP4UDFP8K9U

   Trump's new book came out today.  Yes I bought the book at Walmart and plan on reading it tomorrow.

  TWO 5 STAR REVIEWS FROM AMAZON.....


A clear, convincing, no-nonsense approach to resurrecting America.


I've never commented on or left reviews for Amazon books previously-mostly because there are very few books which merit review-but this is a rare gem. It's an absolutely brilliant, no-nonsense look at some of the major problems facing the country today. This book comes to life with Trump's characteristic "tell-it-like-it-is" attitude and his clear focus on illustrating how to solve important issues logically instead of resorting to fear, anger, or timidity. Is the style/tone a bit bombastic from time to time? Absolutely. However, it adds fire and vigor to the topics at hand, both of which are crucial ingredients in ensuring that all voters understand the significance of the points which are made. While Trump doesn't focus on his failures, there's quite honestly no need to: Every major media outlet (with the exception of a few such as Breitbart) despises the man due to their fear and insecurity about the people electing a President who isn't a puppet and they regularly exaggerate his shortcomings.

A must-read. Apart from the book itself, on a more socially minded note, electing Trump may be the single most important decision the American people make this decade. He's self-funded (doesn't beg from anyone), speaks his mind with clarity, genuinely wants to help, and has a track record of massive business success, something which none of the other career politicians on stage have.

It's time.


It's time to shake up Washington!

Trump's blueprint for America is certainly on the right track and there are specifics laid out here. America is facing some very serious problems. We need a tough leader who isn't a puppet for the special interest groups. Trump is using donors, as well as his own money to fund his campaign. Of course this does not sit well with the lobbyists and special interest groups looking to own the next President. With close to 20 trillion dollars in debt, it seems wise to have a strong business leader making the tough financial decisions for America. His views on trade are also right on the mark. America has made some really bad deals and Trump seems to know how to reverse that trend. Many are trying to label him as anti Latino in order to create fear. He's not anti Latino, he's for legal immigration! He also happens to employ many Latinos. Big difference! He has the fire in his belly and passion for our country to get the job done and shake things up. He has a plan to create jobs and bring back jobs that were lost. He wants to put together a team of highly skilled people to help accomplish his goals. He seems passionate about trying to fix what's broken, so why not give him the chance to do so? We certainly are not better off than we were four or more years ago. Continuing in the direction we are currently heading isn't a wise decision. We need real change, not more broken promises from the politicians who promise the world and don't deliver. Remember folks, nothing is for free along the way. Full disclosure: for those who might think this review is based on political bias, I'm actually a registered Democrat who considers himself an independent thinker.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 04, 2015, 10:16:46 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7daYKUB5JBg

  More extreme talk from a terrible member of the House of Representatives.
  Youtube video....




Rep. Loretta Sanchez: Donald Trump on SNL is Like Yelling 'Fire' in a Crowded Theater
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 04, 2015, 10:21:28 am
^^^^^^^^

  Remember who Sanchez replaced?  Bob Dornan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEehybv-aUI

I'm Not Sorry: Rep. Bob Dornan: 'Hell No'
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 04, 2015, 05:27:29 pm
http://www.amazon.com/Crippled-America-Make-Great-Again/product-reviews/1501137964/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#RVIP4UDFP8K9U

   Trump's new book came out today.  Yes I bought the book at Walmart and plan on reading it tomorrow.




  TWO 5 STAR REVIEWS FROM AMAZON.....


 

A clear, convincing, no-nonsense approach to resurrecting America.


I've never commented on or left reviews for Amazon books previously-mostly because there are very few books which merit review-but this is a rare gem. It's an absolutely brilliant, no-nonsense look at some of the major problems facing the country today. This book comes to life with Trump's characteristic "tell-it-like-it-is" attitude and his clear focus on illustrating how to solve important issues logically instead of resorting to fear, anger, or timidity. Is the style/tone a bit bombastic from time to time? Absolutely. However, it adds fire and vigor to the topics at hand, both of which are crucial ingredients in ensuring that all voters understand the significance of the points which are made. While Trump doesn't focus on his failures, there's quite honestly no need to: Every major media outlet (with the exception of a few such as Breitbart) despises the man due to their fear and insecurity about the people electing a President who isn't a puppet and they regularly exaggerate his shortcomings.

A must-read. Apart from the book itself, on a more socially minded note, electing Trump may be the single most important decision the American people make this decade. He's self-funded (doesn't beg from anyone), speaks his mind with clarity, genuinely wants to help, and has a track record of massive business success, something which none of the other career politicians on stage have.

It's time.


It's time to shake up Washington!

Trump's blueprint for America is certainly on the right track and there are specifics laid out here. America is facing some very serious problems. We need a tough leader who isn't a puppet for the special interest groups. Trump is using donors, as well as his own money to fund his campaign. Of course this does not sit well with the lobbyists and special interest groups looking to own the next President. With close to 20 trillion dollars in debt, it seems wise to have a strong business leader making the tough financial decisions for America. His views on trade are also right on the mark. America has made some really bad deals and Trump seems to know how to reverse that trend. Many are trying to label him as anti Latino in order to create fear. He's not anti Latino, he's for legal immigration! He also happens to employ many Latinos. Big difference! He has the fire in his belly and passion for our country to get the job done and shake things up. He has a plan to create jobs and bring back jobs that were lost. He wants to put together a team of highly skilled people to help accomplish his goals. He seems passionate about trying to fix what's broken, so why not give him the chance to do so? We certainly are not better off than we were four or more years ago. Continuing in the direction we are currently heading isn't a wise decision. We need real change, not more broken promises from the politicians who promise the world and don't deliver. Remember folks, nothing is for free along the way. Full disclosure: for those who might think this review is based on political bias, I'm actually a registered Democrat who considers himself an independent thinker.

Very good larsonstdoc!   I actually do like this guy a lot, I also am trying to post not so good points with these good points,  this is for certainty the last chance through elections to turn this country around, I'm not committed to anyone yet, Trump would be my choice by far if he was running on a 3rd party ticket, Yes I am that much against the big 2, who TOGETHER have torn this nation apart. Please post any new ideas he has as you are reading his latest book.  Peace brother
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 04, 2015, 05:34:45 pm
 "Go and take em down Mr. Trump-- 8)"

...I have said this before and I will say it again---Trump & Carson are the team to bring America back!

...I pray this occurs: But ya never know---

...if the young folks VOTE; Trump is President: if the youth stay home---our Nation may be done!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on November 04, 2015, 07:48:21 pm
Trump is hope and change 2.0; my God people if we don't see thos America is truly doomed.

The only Anti-Globalist party is the Constitution Party, wake up America.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 04, 2015, 09:09:45 pm
Trump is hope and change 2.0; my God people if we don't see thos America is truly doomed.

The only Anti-Globalist party is the Constitution Party, wake up America.

  For most of us that have been here nearly 10 years, we know you are right.

  I voted for Ron Paul in 08 and 12.  I was like you.  I voted for him even though he was unelectable.  He was more than qualified but unelectable.

  There isn't a person in the Constitution Party that is electable in 2016.

  We are just as much Patriots as you are.  We are awake.  Unfortunately MOST OF AMERICA IS ASLEEP.

  You may think that we are gaining but we are not.

  This time, for me, it's anybody but Hillary.

  As I have said 1000 times we are so screwed.

  Hope you aren't too upset but the crap we deal with here is depressing. 

  We have friends here and I know a few people (around 500) that are awake but it is a battle.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 05, 2015, 09:47:10 am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  PLEASE NOTE---MR GOODE WAS THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR THE CONSTITUTION PARTY IN 2012.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/02/former-rep-virgil-goode-donald-trump-for-president-only-candidate-truly-focused-on-immigration/


FORMER REP. VIRGIL GOODE: DONALD TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT, ‘ONLY CANDIDATE TRULY FOCUSED ON’ IMMIGRATION




I am endorsing Donald Trump for President of the United States because he is the only candidate truly focused on reforming our immigration system.
Our legal and illegal immigration policies threaten our national security, common culture, fiscal integrity, and the wages and employment for the working and middle class.

Most Americans want to control immigration. However, Democrats support mass immigration for the votes, while the Republican Party refuses to fight back because it is beholden to business interests who support cheap labor. This “bipartisanship” leads to abominations like Sen Marco Rubio’s Gang of 8 bill, which would give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens and flood the country with tens of millions of foreign workers to undercut Americans.

Donald Trump has the means and the courage to stand up against open borders mega-donors such as Paul Singer and Sheldon Adelson, who want the GOP to abandon its base for their own financial interests.

Many other candidates give lip service to opposing illegal immigration and amnesty, but Donald Trump has the courageous plan to stop it. He will mandate E-Verify, build a wall on the Mexican border, and end sanctuary cities, welfare and birthright citizenship for illegals, which serve as magnets for illegal immigration. Also as important, Trump will reform our legal immigration policy to put American workers first.

Immigration is not the only reason I support Donald Trump. He has shown courage and leadership in standing up to the GOP establishment on other important issues like Obamatrade. However, it is the most important issue facing our country. If we add tens of millions of low skilled and uneducated workers from countries with left wing cultures, it will become impossible for Conservatives to win a national election, and the Democrats will impose their agenda of big government, abortion, and gun control without meaningful opposition.

Contrary to the claims of the political consultant class, Trump is the only candidate who can defeat Hillary Clinton.  Millions of Republican voters stayed home in 2008 and 2012 because they felt the GOP represented the interests of Wall Street rather than those of working Americans. Donald Trump is the best candidate to connect with those voters who feel disaffected from both parties.

Trump’s success so far speaks for itself. Most of the political, financial, and media establishment have demonized him, yet the American people see through this ruse and have flocked to support him. I am proud to join these millions of patriotic Americans in working to elect Donald Trump as our next president.

Former Rep. Virgil Goode represented Virginia’s 5th District from 1997-2009.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 05, 2015, 04:45:31 pm
http://powderedwigsociety.com/donald-trump-sets-new-record-for-blue-collar-support/

Shocking poll! Donald Trump sets new record for blue collar support. 60% of blue collar voters support Trump, highest since FDR in 1936


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 05, 2015, 06:44:38 pm
http://powderedwigsociety.com/donald-trump-sets-new-record-for-blue-collar-support/

Shocking poll! Donald Trump sets new record for blue collar support. 60% of blue collar voters support Trump, highest since FDR in 1936
Trump is making more friends than enemies  8)

...folks are waking up to the Liars in DC & Trumps front run shows me the Nation is Ready for a Real Change...
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on November 05, 2015, 07:53:31 pm
 8)
Trump is making more friends than enemies  8)

...folks are waking up to the Liars in DC & Trumps front run shows me the Nation is Ready for a Real Change...

it really looks that way
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: egypt on November 05, 2015, 08:32:44 pm
Someone please ask Donald Trump:

Would he nullify executive orders that need it within the first 15 minutes of his Presidency like Rand Paul said he would?  Rand has a list of them he would nullify immediately.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 06, 2015, 11:49:56 am
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/donald-trump-latino-advocacy-ad-215591

Trump blasts expletive-laden Hispanic advocacy video

Donald Trump on Friday tore into the video from a Hispanic advocacy group featuring children swearing at him for his stance on immigration, calling it "terrible" and a "disgrace."

"F--k you, racist f--k," a child identified as Ricardo tells Trump in the video released earlier this week by Deport Racism PAC.

The same group has also offered $5,000 to anyone on the "Saturday Night Live" cast or audience who uses the words "deport racism" or "Trump is racist" live on the air during his hosting appearance this weekend.

“I think it’s terrible, I think it’s just terrible," the Republican presidential candidate said on Fox Business Network's "Mornings with Maria Bartiromo."

Young kids speaking that way "is a disgrace," he added, "and it totally backfired and people are actually going wild about it and they’re saying we’re going to support Trump."
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 06, 2015, 06:51:41 pm
8)
it really looks that way
Trump is making Waves on the Shore of Iniquity---and the DC BS Controllers/both Republicans and Democrats Hate him---But the American people like him---and We The People Win!

Trump will not back down from the Political Grinding Machine---it will only make him more determined!  8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Pirate on November 09, 2015, 05:39:49 am
Donald Trump made me laugh with him and at him on Saturday Night Live, which is why he may have the last laugh by winning the GOP nomination

By Piers Morgan for MailOnline
Published: 16:13 GMT, 8 November 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3309229/PIERS-MORGAN-Donald-Trump-laugh-Saturday-Night-Live-laugh-winning-GOP-nomination.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Pirate on November 09, 2015, 05:41:21 am
because I agree with him on issues like guns, immigration or climate change. - Piers Morgan on Donald Trump

WAKE UP !
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 09, 2015, 06:31:30 am
because I agree with him on issues like guns, immigration or climate change. - Piers Morgan on Donald Trump

WAKE UP !
  So what do you believe Trump's stance is on guns?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: egypt on November 09, 2015, 01:25:48 pm
There is something I like about Trump.  He is old enough to know what our True America was like.  Many many generations now have no clue how great we were and what freedom is.

Hopefully if Trump were elected, those generations wouldn't believe how fantastic, the world is they just woke up in.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Pirate on November 09, 2015, 02:17:41 pm
  So what do you believe Trump's stance is on guns?

Don't ask me - ask Piers Morgan why he agrees with Donald Trump on guns and other issues.

If you want me to speculate, I would say that, shock horror, a politician is not always as honest with the electorate as they are in private.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3309229/PIERS-MORGAN-Donald-Trump-laugh-Saturday-Night-Live-laugh-winning-GOP-nomination.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: egypt on November 09, 2015, 02:28:58 pm
Piers Morgan is an opportunist trying to gain notice by riding on the shirt tails of Donald Trump.  I bet that PMorgan didn't even write the article.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 09, 2015, 03:54:11 pm
Heres a few I found.  Typical replies for the most part.  I feel our right to bear arms would be safe under this man.
Quote
Donald Trump on Gun Control

2000 Reform Primary Challenger for President
 I am against gun control
At the Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump took issue with Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, the libertarian-thinking lawmaker who set some Internet fundraising records with his 2008 presidential bid. "Ron Paul cannot get elected, I'm sorry," Trump said, calling him "a good guy" who has "zero chance" of getting elected. The remark about Paul prompted some boos and screams from some in the audience, some of them Paul supporters out in force to help their candidate win CPAC's presidential straw poll for the second year in a row.
In his CPAC speech, Trump sounded many themes popular with Republican conservatives. "I am pro-life," he said. "I am against gun control."
And in one of his biggest applause lines, Trump vowed to end the nation's health care law: "I will fight to end Obamacare and replace it with something that makes sense for people in business and not bankrupt the country." Trump also pledged not to raise taxes if elected.
Source: USA Today report on 2011 Conservative Political Action Conf. , Feb 10, 2011
Dems and Reps are both wrong on guns
It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.
 Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000
For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check
I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.
 Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000
and
Quote
“I am a Life Member of the NRA and am proud of their service in protecting our right to keep and bear arms.  The NRA’s efforts to stop dangerous, gun-banning legislation and regulation is invaluable.  The media focus on those efforts overshadows the great work the NRA does on behalf of safety and conservation.

I have a permit to carry and, living in New York, I know firsthand the challenges law-abiding citizens have in exercising their Second Amendment rights.  My most trusted sources are my sons, Don, Jr. and Eric.  They are fantastic sportsmen and are deeply involved in hunting, competitive shooting, and habitat conservation.”
   http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-talks-gun-control-assault-weapons-gun-free-zones-self-defense/ (http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-talks-gun-control-assault-weapons-gun-free-zones-self-defense/)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Pirate on November 09, 2015, 03:57:15 pm
Heres a few I found.  Typical replies for the most part.  I feel our right to bear arms would be safe under this man.and   http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-talks-gun-control-assault-weapons-gun-free-zones-self-defense/ (http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-talks-gun-control-assault-weapons-gun-free-zones-self-defense/)

hate to burst your bubble - but remember back when people thought if Obama got in he would close Guantanmo Bay , End Foreign Wars etc ? ? ?  ???

Obama Promised to Close Gitmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPHcv2D5dk

Donald Trump promises . . . and because its what u want to hear u choose to believe the lies
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 09, 2015, 04:13:07 pm
hate to burst your bubble - but remember back when people thought if Obama got in he would close Guantanmo Bay , End Foreign Wars etc ? ? ?  ???

Obama Promised to Close Gitmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPHcv2D5dk

Donald Trump promises . . . and because its what u want to hear u choose to believe the lies

  You are the one that is spewing lies and 100% crap.  I have read Trump's newest book (pages 109-117).  I believe that there isn't five people who regularly come here that would not agree with what Trump is saying in his book about guns.

  Stop your trolling here.  We are dedicated to trying to tell the truth.

  It is OK for you to say that you THINK that Trump is lying but don't make crap up if it is not the truth.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 09, 2015, 04:39:46 pm
hate to burst your bubble - but remember back when people thought if Obama got in he would close Guantanmo Bay , End Foreign Wars etc ? ? ?  ???

Obama Promised to Close Gitmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPHcv2D5dk

Donald Trump promises . . . and because its what u want to hear u choose to believe the lies

If you paid attention to what I have been posting you would see that I am not committed to anyone yet, I try to read and  post both sides, good or bad on every candidate,   so no bubble to burst here.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 09, 2015, 04:49:34 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/nov/03/donald-trump-new-book-crippled-america-live-read

  EXCERPT FROM THE ARTICLE BELOW....

Trump's new book Crippled America – the live read as it happened


Chapter 11 is called “The right to bear arms”.

The second amendment is really important. Donald Trump owns guns and Donald Trump has a concealed-carry permit. Donald Trump thinks concealed-carry permits should be valid in every state.


We need to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues, though. However background checks are bad, Trump says, so it’s unclear how he this would happen.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Slackjaw on November 09, 2015, 05:05:01 pm
Don't ask me - ask Piers Morgan why he agrees with Donald Trump on guns and other issues.

If you want me to speculate, I would say that, shock horror, a politician is not always as honest with the electorate as they are in private.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3309229/PIERS-MORGAN-Donald-Trump-laugh-Saturday-Night-Live-laugh-winning-GOP-nomination.html

because I agree with him on issues like guns, immigration or climate change. - Piers Morgan on Donald Trump

WAKE UP !

Donald Trump made me laugh with him and at him on Saturday Night Live, which is why he may have the last laugh by winning the GOP nomination

By Piers Morgan for MailOnline
Published: 16:13 GMT, 8 November 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3309229/PIERS-MORGAN-Donald-Trump-laugh-Saturday-Night-Live-laugh-winning-GOP-nomination.html

You are either willfully misquoting that article or you have not read it.

Admittedly, Piers Morgan is as bad a writer as he is a presenter or was a newspaper editor, but even so, it's pretty obvious what he is saying in your linked article:

"I make no pretence of having hugely enjoyed Trump’s campaign to date.

Not because I support all the contentious things he’s said, nor because I agree with him on issues like guns, immigration or climate change.

(But then I wouldn’t agree with much of what the other candidates say about many issues, nor do I agree with anything the increasingly ridiculous Dr Ben Carson says or stands for)
"

So Pirate now you've had another look, do you still think he agrees with Trump on guns?
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: donnay on November 09, 2015, 06:53:24 pm
(http://toprightnewscom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-rifle.jpg)
http://toprightnews.com/breaking-trump-releases-his-plan-for-2nd-amendment-leaves-millions-of-americans-stunned/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 09, 2015, 07:10:35 pm
^^^^^^ Quite a plan, most assuredly will get blasted by msm. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: EvadingGrid on November 10, 2015, 09:03:03 am
Don't ask me - ask Piers Morgan why he agrees with Donald Trump on guns and other issues.

If you want me to speculate, I would say that, shock horror, a politician is not always as honest with the electorate as they are in private.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3309229/PIERS-MORGAN-Donald-Trump-laugh-Saturday-Night-Live-laugh-winning-GOP-nomination.html

Your banned by popular demand.


I do not want to work for a bunch of closet racists, and yes you are a bunch of racists when all you do is obsess about brown people coming into the country. Also your completely bigoted when all you do is obsess about catholics and, muslims - most of you keep your jew bashing well hidden to just sideways comments about zionists.

As for your constant claim that the left versus right is a false paradigm, if only that was true. All you lot do is worship right wing extremist politics.

In short your not very nice people.

This forum used to have a diverse collection of people with a wide range of viewpoints, but its turning into a nasty, hate filled little gehtto. You no longer care about the truth, because you serve what you think is a "higher truth".

This is why people left, and those people who do join either quickly leave or only make one post and just dont bother coming back.


There are words for nasty right wing lunatics, the most common are Fascist, and Nazi.


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Sasha on November 11, 2015, 09:54:32 am
**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON 4TH REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
276,271 Total Votes so far

Trump 36% - 99,689 votes
Cruz 23% - 64,421
Paul 15% - 42,070
Rubio 13% - 37,141
Carson 5% - 13,381
Fiorina 4% - 12,157
Kasich 2% - 4,465
Bush 1% - 2,947
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 11, 2015, 12:11:39 pm
**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON 4TH REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
276,271 Total Votes so far

Trump 36% - 99,689 votes
Cruz 23% - 64,421
Paul 15% - 42,070
Rubio 13% - 37,141
Carson 5% - 13,381
Fiorina 4% - 12,157
Kasich 2% - 4,465
Bush 1% - 2,947

Trump is the man for the job---and I pray Americans see the Reality of this Election!

...he does stay ahead of the pack; according to the Polls and the 'Heartbeat' of Real America---and this is a good thing!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Adolf Hilter on November 12, 2015, 11:25:09 am
Your banned by popular demand.


I do not want to work for a bunch of closet racists, and yes you are a bunch of racists when all you do is obsess about brown people coming into the country. Also your completely bigoted when all you do is obsess about catholics and, muslims - most of you keep your jew bashing well hidden to just sideways comments about zionists.

As for your constant claim that the left versus right is a false paradigm, if only that was true. All you lot do is worship right wing extremist politics.

In short your not very nice people.

This forum used to have a diverse collection of people with a wide range of viewpoints, but its turning into a nasty, hate filled little gehtto. You no longer care about the truth, because you serve what you think is a "higher truth".

This is why people left, and those people who do join either quickly leave or only make one post and just dont bother coming back.


There are words for nasty right wing lunatics, the most common are Fascist, and Nazi.

What happened ?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 12, 2015, 09:13:45 pm
You are out of the LOOP---Adolf Hitler!

...this forum does not like Nazis!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 12, 2015, 09:28:08 pm
What happened ?

... M.I.A. is back to EvadingGrid --- GUEST?
And his post is very angry ...

EG ... are you giving up on good ole Prison Planet Forum?

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on November 13, 2015, 05:38:04 pm
 Trump is hitting on the reality no other would touch.
 Immigration, borders,  etc.
 France had open borders, taking in all comers, tonight terrorist attacks killed 60 people and the slaughter continues......... a wake up call!
= Obama:Syrian refugees - Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../president-obama... - 2015 - President Obama directs administration to accept at least 10,000 Syrian .... to 200,000, with 100,000 slots allocated just for refugees from Syria.
 Trump VS the Neocons. 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 13, 2015, 06:26:37 pm
^^^

... here's the link chris:

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/09/10/president-obama-directs-administration-to-accept-at-least-10000-syrian-refugees-in-the-next-fiscal-year/

... just the beginning, I'm sure.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 13, 2015, 11:41:24 pm
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/11/13/immigration_issue_explains_trump_s_rise

Immigration is the #1 issue in the entire world.  The Friday the 13th, 2015 Paris attacks are waking up the French.



Immigration Issue Explains Trump's Rise---Rush Limbaugh

RUSH: Now, even despite -- even despite -- not including the Trump tirade from last night, Trump still goes up, and there are things that happened. Like, a lot of people thought Trump was a nonentity in the debate, that he really wasn't there.

He certainly wasn't the fiery, dominating Trump that everybody's gotten to know.  And so some speculated that, "Well, maybe that means Trump's getting bored or maybe just has less excitement in general."  It's when I came in and reminded everybody, "Don't judge it that way.  Debates do not make candidate.  A debate can break somebody. But a debate format, so many people on stage..." Trump is not where he is because of how he's done in the debates, because, arguably, if all people knew about Trump was what he said in the debates, he probably wouldn't be leading the pack. 

It's all these other things -- his opening announcement, his campaign appearances -- and this is not to disparage the debates.  Just keep them in mind and give them proper weight when you analyze their role.  There's also the other adage that you can't be hurt by what you don't say.  And it's really true.  You can be hurt by what you do say, but you can't be hurt but what you don't say.  Unless... I can think of exceptions to that, but, as a general rule, with very few exceptions, that happens to be true.

So what explains Trump continuing to rise when it appears the excitement has waned or peaked or what have you?  And I'm telling you what you think it is.  I think it's this immigration issue.  I think the establishment and everybody in the media continues to miss this.  Clearly the Republican establishment candidates miss it.  The donors, of course, miss it.  But I think in general most people analyzing this, either the professionals in the media, the professional political scientists, they know it's a big issue.  I don't think they understand how deep it goes.

And I really don't think they have the slightest idea and ability to understand it in the way Ted Cruz was talking about it.  The pro-amnesty crowd is made up of a lot of different people with a lot of different interests.  On the Republican donor side, you've got cheap labor.  They may as well admit it.  On the Democrat side, you've got future Democrat voters, voter registration, permanent underclass, more dependence, a way to grow government and so forth.

You've got all that. And then also on the left you have people who really think that by supporting amnesty and endless immigration, they're showing how big their hearts are.  "Oh, yes, it's a compassion issue, see?  And civil rights.  These are all people of color! And some would say that they have been damaged in the past by the imperialism of the US, that we've stolen all of the goods and resources all over the planet. We've taken it for ourselves and we've left them with nothing in their homelands," and blah, blah, blah.

"And so we owe them.  They deserve to be paid back."  So that's the compassion.  And that's the civil rights side.  So here comes Cruz saying this isn't about civil rights.  This is about anything but economics.  The American people are being creamed economically with this issue.  The American people are seeing their wages stagnate, their jobs vanish, and it's happening on purpose.  And if you want to have compassion, if you want to call this a compassion issue, the compassion needs to be for the 94 million Americans who are not working.

And you cannot erase illegal immigration from that equation.



Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 14, 2015, 06:05:42 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/14/poll-trump-surges-to-42-nationally-bad-news-for-marco-rubio/

  With the incident in Paris, immigration policies will be the key to any candidate winning the White House.  Rubio is being check-mated right now by Cruz concerning his immigration views.   



POLL: TRUMP SURGES TO 42% NATIONALLY; ‘BAD NEWS FOR MARCO RUBIO’


In the Reuters/Ipsos 5-day tracking poll that samples 534 Republicans, over the last week, Donald Trump has surged to a massive national lead in the GOP presidential primary. Currently, the billionaire businessman sits at 42% with likely Republican primary voters. His closest competitor is Ben Carson, who sits at just below 25%.

Last week both men were pretty much tied up at around 25%. That is a 17 point surge for Trump.

Among all Republicans, Trumps enjoys a 34% to 20% lead over Carson.

Reuters  adds that this “is also bad news for Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL),
 who is widely considered to be emerging as the establishment-backed alternative to Trump.”

Rubio remains stuck at 10%.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 15, 2015, 11:25:59 am
Bringing Trump down has shifted to 2nd gear.

Quote
A scandalous Op-Ed published in the New York Times has revealed a growing division in evangelical churches about the presidential candidacy of Donald Trump.

Trump’s poll numbers continue to surge and he’s drawing heavy support from evangelical voters. But a leader of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), which claims to represent 15 million members, is demanding his members immediately stop supporting Trump.

Russell Moore, the president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the SBC, issues a scathing review of Trump in the article. He claimed that Trump’s attitude toward women was that of a “Bronze Age warlord” and that to support Trump, evangelicals must “repudiate everything they believe.”

Moore goes on to make a number of accusations about the GOP front runner: He hints that Trump could be secretly pro-choice, says he made his fortune off “a moral vice and an economic swindle that oppresses the poorest and most desperate,” and says evangelicals and other social conservatives who support Trump are illogical.

It’s no secret that many Christian leaders haven’t been thrilled by the prospect of a Trump candidacy — but could this “holy war” of sorts begin to spread to other denominations? In this fractious and hotly contested 2016 presidential election, this may only be the beginning. And should other religious leaders begin coming out against Trump, it could seriously shake up the future of the GOP race.


https://thehornnews.com/holy-war-religious-leaders-plan-trump-take-down/ (https://thehornnews.com/holy-war-religious-leaders-plan-trump-take-down/)

Trying every angle to take him down. (  Istill think its the game plan to get him in,  the ol peoples choice scheme)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 15, 2015, 11:57:31 am
He speaks the truth here!!

Quote
Donald Trump Says Tough Gun Control Laws In Paris Contributed To Tragedy

"If they were allowed to carry -- it would have been a much, much different situation."

Amen!!

Quote
“You can say what you want, but if they had guns — if our people had guns, if they were allowed to carry — it would have been a much, much different situation,” Trump said to cheers during a political rally at an arena in southeast Texas on Saturday afternoon. “I hear it all the time, you know. You look at certain cities that have the highest violence, the highest problem with guns and shootings and killings — Chicago is an example, toughest gun laws in the United States, nothing but problems. So our country better get smart because we’re not smart right now.”

again Amen

http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-says-tough-gun-control-laws-in-paris-contributed-to-tragedy/ (http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-says-tough-gun-control-laws-in-paris-contributed-to-tragedy/)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 18, 2015, 07:07:36 pm
Almost half the Nation [42%] would Vote for Trump---GOOD---we need a man with Bollocks! 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Adolf Hilter on November 20, 2015, 10:48:07 am
The difference between a Trumpdroid and an Obamadroid is ?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 20, 2015, 12:51:15 pm
The  R behind the name and he's american
Title: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 20, 2015, 03:26:59 pm
Trump gave an interview to Yahoo news from which I have taken the following quotes

"we're going to have to do things we have never done before"

"I think that everyone is feeling that security will rule"

"certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country"

"we're going to have to do things which were unthinkable a year ago"


He then did not rule out a Muslim database in the US..

When asked later about this by an nbc reporter he said that he was in favor of a Muslim database and that it would only take good management..

Well the Nazis were great managers..meticulous in fact..

You can find these interviews in the video at the link below.

So my question to the Trumpistas is this: How do you like Trump's open statements that he will sacrifice liberty for security, in a way that would have been 'unthinkable' just a year ago?

And what about a Muslim database..and maybe they should wear a crescent armband?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3326559/It-s-management-Donald-Trump-backs-mandatory-database-track-Muslims-United-States.html#ixzz3s3Mzs8oU
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 20, 2015, 03:45:49 pm
Neo-fascist Donald Trump wants more of your freedoms..and a database of Muslims in the US

Trump gave an interview to Yahoo news from which I have taken the following quotes

"we're going to have to do things we have never done before"

"I think that everyone is feeling that security will rule"

"certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country"

"we're going to have to do things which were unthinkable a year ago"


He then did not rule out a Muslim database in the US..

When asked later about this by an nbc reporter he said that he was in favor of a Muslim database and that it would only take good management..

Well the Nazis were great managers..meticulous in fact..

You can find these interviews in the video at the link below.

So my question to the Trumpistas is this: How do you like Trump's open statements that he will sacrifice liberty for security, in a way that would have been 'unthinkable' just a year ago?

And what about a Muslim database..and maybe they should wear a crescent armband?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3326559/It-s-management-Donald-Trump-backs-mandatory-database-track-Muslims-United-States.html#ixzz3s3Mzs8oU
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 20, 2015, 04:50:30 pm


^^^  I thought the FBI already had data-bases ... what am I missing here?


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Effie Trinket on November 20, 2015, 05:29:50 pm
I already knew beforehand that Trump, and ANY pre-approved candidate for that matter, is already a de facto slave to the banker owned MIC.  He just proved it with his latest statements.

I can guarantee you that in whatever ways he may seem like he is aligning himself with the Constitution, he will reveal himself to be a LIAR in those areas as well.  Example, if he became "President" he would reveal himself to actually be anti-gun (remember, "CONSERVATIVE", "REPUBLICAN" GWB HOODWINKED THE F_UCK OUT OF EVERYONE BY CONVINCING EVERYONE HE WAS PRO-GUN--GUESS WHAT?  GWB RAMMED THROUGH THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL 2007 NICS, INSTANT BACKGROUND CHECK BS, THAT WAS THE THING THAT MADE IT SO YOU COULD NO LONGER BUY A SHOTGUN OR LONG GUN ANONYMOUSLY, BECAUSE THAT "LAW" MADE IT SO YOU HAD TO SHOW ID WHEN YOU BOUGHT ONE, AND THEY SWIPE YOUR ID, WHICH UNBEKNOWNST TO YOU, INSTANTLY ***REGISTERS*** YOU WITH THE FEDS WITH THOSE FIREARMS.  There's no way under hell the elite would ever allow anyone to become President that is against any of the elites agendas.

You cannot claim that you are for the second amendment while simultaneously saying you would surveil ANYONE in America.  Trump is supporting and defending treason, pure and simple.  Every amendment is essential.  The 4th amendment is every bit as important as the 2nd.

This thing about databases is a huge joke and an insult to ones intelligence.  Everyone is in a GLOBAL database, and in multiple databases.  Holy shit who the f_ck does Trump think he's shitting?  The FBI had ASSASSINATION LISTS of American citizens all the way back to the manufactured Vietnam war, solely for anyone who was PROTESTING our actions there, 50 years before the NDAA.  What the hell do you think they have today if they had that back then? 

I'll say it again, Trump would show that he was a pathetic corporatist whore lying shitbag just like Obama did.  His apparent opposing views to Obama are just as FAKE as Obama's views purportedly opposing George W. Bush.  He is a deceiver.  People are so desperate that THEY WANT TO BELIEVE THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S GOOD, WELL GUESS WHAT, THERE ISN'T.

Being for surveillance of anyone for any reason without probable cause and without a legitimate court order is someone who is agreeing with a fundamental element of a police state.  With these recent statements alone, there would be no difference to Obama illegally running for a 3rd term and Trump getting "elected" for his 1st term.  None, zero.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 20, 2015, 05:33:09 pm
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/260926-trump-muslim-database-was-reporters-idea

Trump: Muslim database was reporter’s idea

Donald Trump is distancing himself from the suggestion that he wants to create a database to track Muslims in the U.S.

In a tweet on Friday, he said the idea came from a reporter.


Trump refused to rule out a database and special IDs for Muslims in an interview with Yahoo! on Thursday.

“Certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy,” he said when asked if he would implement the programs.

After he was asked about the comment later that evening by an NBC News reporter, Trump said he would “certainly implement” a database to track Muslims in the U.S.

When asked whether Muslims would be legally required to sign up for the database, he said, “They have to be. They have to be.”

The GOP primary front-runner has been widely criticized for the controversial comments that come after the terrorist attack in Paris last week.

Fellow Republican presidential candidates Jeb Bush and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) have refused to back the plans.

Democratic primary front-runner Hillary Clinton said Trump’s rhetoric on Muslims is “shocking," while rival Bernie Sanders called it "outrageous and bigoted."

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 20, 2015, 05:35:07 pm

^^^  I thought the FBI already had data-bases ... what am I missing here?

  True.  (I think our dogs are on the data-bases.   Sarcasm)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 20, 2015, 05:49:48 pm

^^^   ;D

I am just not understanding the hoopla over FBI data-bases of MUSLIMS ...
like EFFIE said, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO ... and usually over-the-top and
outside the law. Every time some violent muslim-killer event goes down
the Feds announce, "Oh yeah ... we've been watching those guys for YEARS!"
So why the heck did they NOT ARREST the scumbags?

More surveillance = probably NOT.
More arrests and deportation = YES!


Islamic individuals and organizations that are giving comfort to the
enemies of Western culture should be arrested and deported if there
is a place to deport them to ... and the US govt should
QUIT GIVING THEM RELIGIOUS COVER!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Effie Trinket on November 20, 2015, 06:18:35 pm
^^^   ;D

I am just not understanding the hoopla over FBI data-bases of MUSLIMS ...
like EFFIE said, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO ... and usually over-the-top and
outside the law. Every time some violent muslim-killer event goes down
the Feds announce, "Oh yeah ... we've been watching those guys for YEARS!"
So why the heck did they NOT ARREST the scumbags?

More surveillance = probably NOT.
More arrests and deportation = YES!


Islamic individuals and organizations that are giving comfort to the
enemies of Western culture should be arrested and deported if there
is a place to deport them to ... and the US govt should
QUIT GIVING THEM RELIGIOUS COVER!
ALL that "Muslims" represent within the narratives of CSIS member statements, RAND Corporation, CFR, DoD , DoJ, Pentagon spokespersons et.al., is that THEY ARE TALKED ABOUT TO DISTRACT FROM THE FACT THAT TPTB CONSIDERS EVERYONE THAT IS NOT THEM, THE ENEMY.  And they continually JUXTAPOSE "Muslim" "terror attacks", with "Domestic", "lone wolf", "white", "terror attacks".  This overwhelms the psyche of the average person, and wears people down, hoping to make people beg for fake security ala the military/intelligence industrial complex--they very criminals who orchestrated and think-tanked all of these "threats" that could NEVER EXIST ORGANICALLY, NATURALLY, by individuals acting all by themselves or in these alleged "groups".

LOL, the criminal defense contractors have drones now that have cameras with 4K resolution capability (that's 4 times Blu ray resolution) cameras all over the streets, every "wearable computer" sending data to the yottabyte NSA storage facility in Utah.  The NWO OVERTHREW QADAFFI, murdered people and destroyed massive infrastructure by firing 200 cruise missiles into Libya, and we're supposed to believe that this same military industrial complex is incapabl;e of stopping a bunch of guys with bombs strapped to themselves and AK-47's?  The MIC that was powerful enough to stop the Russians in the Cold War, can't stop these super duper Muslim soldiers.  HOLY SHIT we all better give them more taxpayer money so they can finally defend America, because with the trillion+ spent, we're still not safe!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 20, 2015, 06:30:27 pm

^^^  I thought the FBI already had data-bases ... what am I missing here?

Who knows what they have outside of law. The point is that Trump is advocating compulsory registration on a Muslim List, which is a very different proposition to intelligence agencies keeping tabs on certain persons of interest.

Trump is also advocating doing the 'unthinkable' in sacrificing liberty for security. Do I detect a collective shrug from the Trumpistas about that too?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Effie Trinket on November 20, 2015, 07:04:41 pm
Who knows what they have outside of law. The point is that Trump is advocating compulsory registration on a Muslim List, which is a very different proposition to intelligence agencies keeping tabs on certain persons of interest.
Outside of the law?  What they have inside of the law is illegal because the laws are illegal.

What Trump is advocating is just as anti-American and unconstitutional as everything that all of the 3 and 4 letter agencies and privatized intel corps have been doing.  All Muslim "terrorists" are manufactured destabilization assets.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: One Revelator on November 20, 2015, 08:40:02 pm
Outside of the law?  What they have inside of the law is illegal because the laws are illegal.

What Trump is advocating is just as anti-American and unconstitutional as everything that all of the 3 and 4 letter agencies and privatized intel corps have been doing.  All Muslim "terrorists" are manufactured destabilization assets.

Outstanding description!

“manufactured destabilization assets”

or perhaps

managed destabilization assets


That phrase needs to spread. Time to move on, be progressive.

“terrorist” is passé. Too generic.

I'll just have to remember M-D-A and casually insert it into the conversation.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 20, 2015, 08:44:03 pm


Majority of Americans Feel
Like ‘Stranger in Own Country’

by MIKE FLYNN  20 Nov 2015

"
According to the Reuters survey, 58 percent Americans say they “don’t identify with what America has become.” While Republicans and Independents are the most likely to agree with this statement, even 45 percent of Democrats share this feeling.

"
The Trump phenomenon is not simply the product of a media-savvy, hyper-personality candidate. It is drawing strength from very real sentiments of a huge block of voters. The Republican party may take out Trump, but it alienates these voters at its peril.

√  READ: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/20/majority-americans-feel-like-stranger-country/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 21, 2015, 08:42:47 am
EffieTrinket
Quote
I'll say it again, Trump would show that he was a pathetic corporatist whore lying shitbag just like Obama did.  His apparent opposing views to Obama are just as FAKE as Obama's views purportedly opposing George W. Bush.  He is a deceiver.  People are so desperate that THEY WANT TO BELIEVE THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S GOOD, WELL GUESS WHAT, THERE ISN'T.

Thank you I've been trying to say that all along.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 21, 2015, 11:53:59 am
EffieTrinket
Thank you I've been trying to say that all along.

But you could be wrong and Trump has been empowered with the spirit of Liberty and Justice for all.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 21, 2015, 12:12:38 pm
But you could be wrong and Trump has been empowered with the spirit of Liberty and Justice for all.

Not really. He wants to put all Muslims on a list - not much justice there.

And he wants to sacrifice what's left of liberty for 'security'.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 21, 2015, 12:20:10 pm
Not really. He wants to put all Muslims on a list - not much justice there.

And he wants to sacrifice what's left of liberty for 'security'.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/667777348029292544
I didn't suggest a database-a reporter did. We must defeat Islamic terrorism & have surveillance, including a watch list, to protect America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUrAMxmO_A
MARS ATTACKS don't run we are your friends scene
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 21, 2015, 12:30:50 pm
^^^

... personally I think it may come down to
an electronic means of tracking new, suspicious
migrants ... maybe in a few months after they kill
a few thouand blowing up malls and mega-churches.
And it is prudent ... we track all manner of people
now with bracelets, etc. But this is not to advocate
tracking ALL muslims in the US ... I assume many are good
citizens, integrated, truthfully against their 7th century
brethren.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 21, 2015, 12:31:19 pm
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/667777348029292544
I didn't suggest a database-a reporter did. We must defeat Islamic terrorism & have surveillance, including a watch list, to protect America

Those are weasel backtracking words from Trump; it makes no difference who brought the idea up, but rather how Trump responded to it.

On security, he said the following:

"we're going to have to do things we have never done before"

"I think that everyone is feeling that security will rule"

"certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country"

"we're going to have to do things which were unthinkable a year ago"


It's true the reporter brought up the idea of a Muslim List but Trump did not rule it out.

And later he said that he would implement such a list and all it would take is good management. Make no mistake, regardless of his current revisionism, what he said was not a terrorist watch list but specifically a compulsory registration list for all Muslims.

See video here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3326559/It-s-management-Donald-Trump-backs-mandatory-database-track-Muslims-United-States.html#ixzz3s3Mzs8oU
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 21, 2015, 12:36:13 pm
^^^

Qster, I hope it is none of your family that is blown up by unchecked Boko Haram wannabes.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 21, 2015, 01:28:55 pm
But you could be wrong and Trump has been empowered with the spirit of Liberty and Justice for all.

I do sincerely hope I am.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 21, 2015, 01:42:36 pm
We can not have a list be it muslim,christian republican or democrat, Its just not right.  Arm the people, to defend themselves with no restrictions, would be better way,
how many in here shout out on Obammee s executive orders? Yet it would be okay for Trump or anyone else!  We in trouble folks, 

Quote
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
           
fill in everyline with a different group.  History repeating itself, and right in front of our noses.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 21, 2015, 01:47:18 pm
(http://www.clarionproject.org/sites/all/sites/default/files/images/alton-nolen-oklahoma-beheading-Islam-Will-Dominate-World-Freedom-Go-to-Hell.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 21, 2015, 01:47:52 pm
^^^

Qster, I hope it is none of your family that is blown up by unchecked Boko Haram wannabes.

Thanks for that. I hope the same for your family, and everyone else, whether the perpetrators were 'checked' or not. Of course, your statement is not relevant as we are not talking about just 'checking' people against a terrorist list are we, but it's appreciated anyway.

Just so we know Jackson, do you support Donald Trump's policy of having a compulsory Muslim List, and do you support his policy of removing what's left of your liberties for 'security'?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 21, 2015, 01:57:35 pm
Good spot for a great truth by Ben Franklin

Quote
”He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.” ... ”If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both.”

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 21, 2015, 02:35:28 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/260961-gop-operative-set-to-unveil-anti-trump-guerilla-campaign
GOP operative prepares anti-Trump 'guerilla campaign'
By Jesse Byrnes - 11/20/15 04:20 PM EST

Republican operative Liz Mair is planning a "guerrilla campaign" aimed at knocking Donald Trump out of the GOP presidential race,
The Wall Street Journal is reporting.

Mair, a former online communications director at the Republican National Committee who also worked on behalf of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's presidential campaign earlier this year, has formed Trump Card LLC "to defeat and destroy" Trump's candidacy, according to the report.

The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”

News of the recently formed group comes a day after the super-PAC supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich, another GOP presidential rival, announced $2.5 million for TV, radio and other ads over two months targeting Trump in New Hampshire, where the real estate tycoon maintains a solid lead.

 Another group, the economic think tank Club for Growth, has already hit Trump with $1 million in ads in the early-voting state of Iowa.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 21, 2015, 02:59:41 pm
Quote
Trump Card LLC "to defeat and destroy" Trump's candidacy

I kind of figured that back when he signed the pledge not to go 3rd party.  He like others just can't by the idea that the party is bigger then the man. 

But,
 
Quote
“The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”
who then would beat her? Certainly NOT jebbie.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Effie Trinket on November 21, 2015, 04:23:23 pm
^^^

Qster, I hope it is none of your family that is blown up by unchecked Boko Haram wannabes.
How is tyrannical, dehumanizing registration (including "watch lists" [hey let's fool people with the notion that watching suspected threats that we're in control of ourselves is going to mean anything]) of humans going to provide security when, once again, our own fraudulent government are the ones funding, arming, radicalizing, enabling, directing, coordinating, and managing the terrorists.

BOKO HARAM: A CIA COVERT OPERATION; AMERICA’S DESTABILIZATION PLOTS AGAINST NIGERIA–GREENWHITE COALITION
http://newsrescue.com/boko-haram-a-cia-covert-operation-americas-destabilization-plots-against-nigeria-greenwhite-coalition/

Boko Haram is CIA Covert Op
http://stop-imperialism.com/2015/02/16/6052/
http://www.sott.net/article/277515-Boko-Haram-A-CIA-Covert-Operation

(http://www.sott.net/image/s9/181205/large/Zbigniew_Bin_Laden.jpg)

Nigeria: The Cia and Boko Haram Insurgency
http://allafrica.com/stories/201405271257.html

Is Boko Haram a CIA Covert Op to Divide and Conquer Africa?
https://libya360.wordpress.com/2015/02/15/is-boko-haram-a-cia-covert-op-to-divide-and-conquer-africa/

Boko Haram: US AFRICOM’S Latest False Flag Franchise
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/05/11/boko-haram-us-africoms-latest-false-flag-franchise/

Boko Haram false-flag ops to ease US intervention: Experts
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/05/13/362538/takfiris-ease-us-intervention-in-nigeria/

Is Boko Haram a psy-op?
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/05/14/362619/is-boko-haram-a-psyop


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 21, 2015, 05:13:57 pm
Thanks for that. I hope the same for your family, and everyone else, whether the perpetrators were 'checked' or not. Of course, your statement is not relevant as we are not talking about just 'checking' people against a terrorist list are we, but it's appreciated anyway.

Just so we know Jackson, do you support Donald Trump's policy of having a compulsory Muslim List, and do you support his policy of removing what's left of your liberties for 'security'?

Well, I was just trying to point out that we are talking about
cold-blooded murderers ... we would be stupid to hobble
ourselves with either political correctness or fear of over-reach
by law enforcement ... it is just common sense to monitor
suspects. Personally I am paranoid about govt spying on
individuals ... I have never carried a cellphone for instance,
for that reason.

I don't think Trump meant to say that ALL muslims in the US
should be electronically monitored ... I believe it was just an
off-the-cuff response to imply that SOMETHING has to be done ...
these tens (hundreds?) of thousands of practically unknown islamists
entering the country via immigration should be considered possibly
terror-prone ... duh! Electronic monitoring of recent, 'impossible
to vet' people from terrorist-ridden areas just seems common sense
to me. Same for GANGSTERS from South of the Border.

Having said that, though, it would probably not stop the crazies
who are usually suicidal maniacs. The use of 'tagging' for 'home
released' dangerous criminals is considered by many just a gesture,
a too lenient method to try to reduce prison over-crowding, for instance.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=235313.msg1510384#msg1510384

I, like Tahoe, can see this hoopla is just another empty attack ...
a grasping at straws ... to try to get some anti-Trump action going.

√ WIKIPEDIA: Electronic tagging - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_tagging
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 21, 2015, 06:13:18 pm
https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/11/10/trump-carson-continue-lead-gop-field-jeb-bush-dips/

Trump, Carson continue to lead GOP field; Jeb Bush dips to 3% support

(https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2015-11-10/gopNov10-2.png)

   Trump Tweet....   https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  9h9 hours ago
Rumor has it - Pataki, Kasich, & Senator Lindsey Graham are dropping out of the race very soon. Hope it's not true, they're so easy to beat!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 21, 2015, 06:17:07 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


  VIDEO AT THE LINK.....

Cancel the Debate! CNN Caught Selectively-Editing Trump’s ‘Muslim’ Comments

Left-wing cable news network CNN has been caught red-handed selectively editing Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump’s comments about a “Muslim registry,” and doing so in order to make it sound as though he is agreeing to this registry. He is not.

The edited video is yet another lying log on the left-wing garbage fire that is CNN, and yet in just three weeks, this very same garbage fire is hosting the next Republican presidential debate!

What exactly does CNN have to do in order to lose its right to depose these candidates for two hours in front of the whole world? If CNN is already maliciously editing video to “take out” out the frontrunner, I don’t even want to speculate.

Courtesy of Gateway Pundit, watch the CNN video. Pay special attention to the sneaky edit just before Trump says “absolutely”:


The left-wing liars at CNN have intentionally edited the video to make it look as though Trump said “absolutely” to a Muslim registry. What CNN edited out is in bold:

Reporter: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims who are in this country?

Trump: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we need to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.

Reporter: Is that something your White House would like to implement?

Donald Trump: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

Trump’s “absolutely” is clearly in reference to strengthening the border. Look at the whole transcript. When the NBC News reporter asks, “Is that something your White House would like to implement?,” Trump has just talked about fortifying the border and obviously believes that is what the NBC reporter is referring to.

CNN edited that out!

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 21, 2015, 06:20:30 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/21/donald-trump-rips-dishonest-media-wants-surveillance-certain-mosques/


Donald Trump Rips ‘Dishonest Media,’ Wants ‘Surveillance of Certain Mosques’

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama–GOP front runner Donald Trump is tearing into the media, and vowing to fight terrorists.

Before an enthusiastic crowd of 10,000 at the Birmingham-Jefferson Convention Complex on Saturday, Trump told the crowd, “They’re dishonest people. The media is so dishonest.”

Trump then set the record straight on how he wants to deal with the ISIS terrorist threat to America.

“I want surveillance of certain mosques,” he told the crowd. “You know what? We’ve had it before and we’ll have it again.”

The New York real estate billionaire mocked how the media will react to this announcement.

“Oh, they’re going to make such a big deal, …’he [Trump] said something so politically incorrect.’ ”

“That’s why we’re going to hell,” Trump told the crowd, “because we’re so politically correct.”

Trump also stated his actual position on the database issue that has been reported inaccurately by the mainstream media.

“I will absolutely take a database of the people coming in from Syria if we can’t stop it. But we’re going to,” Trump said.

“And if I win, I’ve made it known, if I win, they’re going back. We can’t have them,” he added.

The threat of terrorist attack by ISIS and ISIS sympathizers on American soil after the recent Paris attacks loom large in Trump’s policy prescriptions.

“You see what happened. A few nut jobs in Paris. A few total nuts, low lifes, the guy with the dirty hat… he’s no mastermind, he’s a lowlife,” Trump added.

But the media, Trump says, is not honestly reporting his policy positions.

“Today, in the New York Times, they had a report on the front page that was false,” Trump said. “Front page… But it’s a false story. And Breitbart wrote it correctly, and now The Times is suffering.”

Trump explained the origin of the false meme created and spread by the mainstream media that he had called for the registry of all Muslims in America in a data base:

Yesterday, some little wise guy, he looks like he was 12 years old, he’s got a camera. I’m signing autographs. He’s asking me questions. Talking about the wall. And I’m signing autographs. Talking about the wall. I’m going to build this… And there’s music plating in the background, and I’m leaving and this little wise guy is sitting there and he says to me questions… I’m just not even and I said to him, who are you with, and he said NBC, and once he said that I didn’t even bother answering his questions any more.

“And the biggest story of yesterday was ‘Trump Wants Database of Muslims,'” and I said “What’s all happening here?” Trump asked, incredulously.

“I spoke to the reporter for The Times. And I think I made it clear,” he said.

“And, I also said, number one, you couldn’t hear very well because it’s like you’re walking over here…. but regardless of that … but I do want a database for those people coming in, but I also insist on the wall, and it was all fine…and all of a sudden I end up with some stories, and I say ‘What are you talking about?'” Trump noted.

The event began on schedule at 11 am local time, when Trump bound on stage to the strains of “Sweet Home Alabama,” and lit into President Obama.

“We have a president who has represented us very poorly,” he began.

He also blasted the media for referring to the ISIS terrorists as “masterminds.”

“You can’t call these dopes, they’re dopes– they’ve got IQs that are low, believe me– you can’t call the leader of the dopes a mastermind,” Trump noted.

“Don’t call them masterminds. You’re building them up, you’re building them up, you’re building up their image,” Trump said.

The GOP front runner also criticized President Obama and Secretary of State Kerry for negotiating a bad deal with Iran.

“You know, we have a president who doesn’t know anything about what we’re talking about. He doesn’t know. In Iran, he calls the head, ‘the Supreme Leader.’ Yes. ‘The Supreme Leader.’ I promise you, I will never call him ‘The Supreme Leader,'” Trump said.

“We’re going to renegotiate the [Iran deal]. We’re going to make it much better,” Trump promised.

“Here we have Kerry, weak, ineffective, begging to make a deal, and we had all the cards!”

Trump also hit on the other major themes of his campaign, including the need for leadership, borders, and a wall at the border.

“We need leadership so badly. We’re laughed at. We’re scoffed at. We’re robbed,” Trump said.

“We have to take our country back. We have to bring our jobs back. We have to bring trade back. We have to repeal Obamacare. We have to replace it with something great,” he noted.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 21, 2015, 06:28:29 pm

I, like Tahoe, can see this hoopla is just another empty attack ...
a grasping at straws ... to try to get some anti-Trump action going.



  +1----THE LEFT WOULD RATHER HAVE CARSON AS THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE AGAINST HILLDOG.  She would eat him alive.

Another article....   http://www.newswithviews.com/Berry/ed100.htm

WHY A VOTE FOR CARSON IS A VOTE FOR RUBIO



By Dr. Ed Berry, PhD, Physics
November 21, 2015
NewsWithViews.com

This article is pro Republican. I write not to tell you who to vote for but to help conservatives understand how they must vote to win. For fair disclosure, I am a hat-wearing supporter of Donald Trump.

For the first time since Reagan, Republicans have a chance to nominate a conservative presidential candidate who can win the final election. That candidate is Donald Trump.

Whether conservatives accomplish this goal depends upon how collectively smart they are. If they are smart, they will come together to achieve their common goal.

First, the facts

Following the November 11 debate, the Republican presidential race is down to 4 candidates.

A pre-debate CNN/ORC poll shows Trump, Carson, Rubio and Cruz polling 25, 23, 13 and 11 percent, respectively. All other candidates have less than 6 percent.

A newer and more accurate pre-debate YouGov.com poll shows Trump, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz polling 32, 18, 11, and 8 percent, respectively. Bush also got 8 percent but he cannot catch Rubio who is his major competitor. All other candidates got less than 5 percent.

In his after debate comments, Dick Morris said he is even more certain that one of the above four candidates will win the nomination.

To understand the polls, we must quantify the votes in candidate categories.

If we add the poll percentages separately for candidates whom we might loosely define in voter perspective as conservative – Trump, Carson, Cruz, Paul, Huckabee - and moderate – Rubio, Bush, Fiorina, Kasich, Christy, Jindal - we find the conservative candidates get about 2/3 of the votes and the moderates about 1/3.

But this cannot be. Conservatives do not outnumber moderates by 2 to 1. So what’s up?

The answer is Donald Trump. Trump, uniquely among the candidates, draws uniform support from moderates, somewhat conservatives, and very conservatives. Trump draws strong support from Latino and black voters, independents and conservative Democrats.

No other candidate does this and no presidential candidate has done this since Ronald Reagan.

In summary, the poll data show Trump draws 1/3, moderates draw 1/3, and conservatives draw 1/3. Donald Trump is an island unto himself.

The conclusion that conservatives should back Donald Trump if they want to win is obvious, but let’s go further to see why this is critical.

David Wasserman’s “The GOPs Primary Rules might doom Carson, Cruz and Trump” confirms this conclusion. His footnote says “Trump’s support is relatively evenly distributed among moderate, somewhat conservative and very conservative Republicans.”

In politics, the side with the smartest strategic voters wins. In 2016, conservatives have a unique opportunity to elect a conservative president.

Here’s some stuff we need to know

Wasserman shows why the GOP always nominates a more moderate president than the Republicans it sends to Congress. The system is rigged. The GOP’s distribution of presidential delegates gives more weight to voters in the blue states than to voters in the red states.

Under RNC’s delegate geography, an average vote in a blue state gets twice as many delegates as an average vote in a red state. In the extreme, a GOP vote cast in the bluest part of the Bronx is worth 43 times as many delegates as the reddest part of Alabama.

As you would expect, GOP voters in blue states vote for more moderate presidential candidates while GOP voters in red states vote for more conservative presidential candidates.

Since blue state votes get twice as many delegates per vote as the red state votes, the GOP bias favors moderate candidates over conservative candidates by 2 to 1.

Rubio will very likely get the moderate 1/3 of GOP votes. Carson and Cruz will compete for the conservative 1/3 of GOP votes. It does not matter whether Cruz or Carson wins these votes. The total of their votes will not be more than the total votes for Rubio. The GOP 2 to 1 delegate bias will nominate Rubio over either Cruz or Carson.

Bottom line: Neither Cruz nor Carson can beat Rubio

The only candidate who can beat Rubio is Trump because Trump draws support from Rubio’s moderate base as well as from independents and conservative Democrats.

To understand this, we must understand the demographics of the Republican Party.

The well-known four faces of the Republican Party and their approximate compositions are Somewhat Conservative (40 percent), Moderate to Liberal (30 percent), Very Conservative but Secular (10 percent), and Very Conservative Evangelical (20 percent).

Evangelical voters are found in all four faces of the Republican Party. The Very Conservative Evangelicals are the more extreme evangelicals who dominate the tea party.

The 10 percent Very Conservative but Secular voters always support the Republican nominee. The 20 percent Very Conservative Evangelical voters do not. This is the source of the well-known “split” in the Republican Party.

On the flip side, the other 80 percent of the Republican Party do not vote for overly evangelical candidates. The 80 percent will vote for either Trump or Rubio but not for Carson or Cruz. Sorry, that is reality.

No matter how many times the 20 percent Very Conservative Evangelicals (VCE) may call other Republicans “RINO’s,” the simple fact is their VCE “marketing niche” is too small to elect one of their own.

Carson’s support comes from the VCE face of the Republican Party. Every Carson bumper sticker I have seen has a “Ten Commandments” bumper sticker beside it. Not to criticize the Ten Commandments but this tells us who supports Carson.

Carson’s supporters make a big mistake. Ben Carson’s evangelical supporters think he is a conservative because they assume every Bible-thumping candidate is a conservative. But Carson is not the conservative they think he is.

Therefore, as they learn more about Carson, they may change to another candidate. Polls show Carson’s support is “soft” and his supporters may change their minds.

Arkansas Times columnist Gene Lyons wrote “Ben Carson’s screwball candidacy doomed to fail,”

Every four years, rural Iowa Republicans fall raptly in love with a Bible-brandishing savior who vows to purge the nation of sin. Soon after the New Hampshire primary, the holy candidate fades fast.

Carson’s fans have been slow to grasp that their party’s presidential nominee will need the votes of millions of “blue state” Republicans historically resistant to religious zealotry.

While Carson’s supporters would prefer Trump over Rubio, they are unaware their support of Carson will only help Rubio. That’s not smart voting.

Kevin “Coach” Collins wrote about the liberal media,

They would all love to see Carson as the Republican nominee because they know he would lose massively to their favorite felon Hillary Clinton.

A dispassionate review of what Carson brings to the table, his lack of substantive ideas at best, bad ideas and crazy beliefs at worst, makes him the best hope the media has of electing their favorite felon.

Unless Carson supporters wakeup and support Trump, conservatives may lose their greatest opportunity to elect a conservative president since Ronald Reagan.

Carson supports Obama’s Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) which will kill American jobs and flood America with more foreign workers. This should be a wakeup call to his supporters who believe Carson is a conservative. Trump is very much against TPP.

I argued that Carson’s statements on climate make him susceptible to irrational measures to “address” climate change in the name of saving the environment. By contrast, Trump is very clear about how he thinks the Democrat’s climate claims are a hoax that harms our economy.

Dick Morris said his biggest fear is Carson may block Trump from winning the nomination.

Morris hopes Carson’s credibility will fall apart before the Iowa caucus. Morris hopes Carson’s whoppers will wake up his supporters. Carson said Egyptians built the pyramids to store grain. He said rather than sending troops to Afghanistan after 9-11, he would have focused on energy independence instead. He said the holocaust would not have happened if the Jews had guns.

Forget what some polls say, Carson cannot beat Hillary. These polls are meaningless because the average voter has no idea about who can beat Hillary. Dick Morris says Hillary would eat Carson alive.

Good news is tea party activist and former congressional candidate Katrina Pierson has joined the Trump train. Pierson will act as the national spokeswoman for Donald Trump. This is a good move by the Trump team to counter the Carson threat.



Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 21, 2015, 07:42:29 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


  VIDEO AT THE LINK.....

Cancel the Debate! CNN Caught Selectively-Editing Trump’s ‘Muslim’ Comments


Those filthy left-wing LIARS should be arrested! And when Trump IS president ...
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: One Revelator on November 21, 2015, 07:50:42 pm
How is tyrannical, dehumanizing registration (including "watch lists" [hey let's fool people with the notion that watching suspected threats that we're in control of ourselves is going to mean anything]) of humans going to provide security when, once again, our own fraudulent government are the ones funding, arming, radicalizing, enabling, directing, coordinating, and managing the terrorists.

BOKO HARAM: A CIA COVERT OPERATION; AMERICA’S DESTABILIZATION PLOTS AGAINST NIGERIA–GREENWHITE COALITION
http://newsrescue.com/boko-haram-a-cia-covert-operation-americas-destabilization-plots-against-nigeria-greenwhite-coalition/

Boko Haram is CIA Covert Op
http://stop-imperialism.com/2015/02/16/6052/
http://www.sott.net/article/277515-Boko-Haram-A-CIA-Covert-Operation

(http://www.sott.net/image/s9/181205/large/Zbigniew_Bin_Laden.jpg)

Nigeria: The Cia and Boko Haram Insurgency
http://allafrica.com/stories/201405271257.html

Is Boko Haram a CIA Covert Op to Divide and Conquer Africa?
https://libya360.wordpress.com/2015/02/15/is-boko-haram-a-cia-covert-op-to-divide-and-conquer-africa/

Boko Haram: US AFRICOM’S Latest False Flag Franchise
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/05/11/boko-haram-us-africoms-latest-false-flag-franchise/

Boko Haram false-flag ops to ease US intervention: Experts
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/05/13/362538/takfiris-ease-us-intervention-in-nigeria/

Is Boko Haram a psy-op?
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/05/14/362619/is-boko-haram-a-psyop

I was wondering the same thing. Once that door is opened, then ANYBODY deemed suspicious gets tracked in accordance with the “public will”. No probable cause. No previous crime.

I don't know how many times I've read about a “terrorist” attack where the person “was known by intelligence agencies/law enforcement.” Managed destabilization assets tend to be protected as long as they're doing the will of the government that created them. That's why we always see a patsy or reports of the bad guys escaping only to be killed with scant evidence of such.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Effie Trinket on November 21, 2015, 08:07:05 pm
I was wondering the same thing. Once that door is opened, then ANYBODY deemed suspicious gets tracked in accordance with the “public will”. No probable cause. No previous crime.

I don't know how many times I've read about a “terrorist” attack where the person “was known by intelligence agencies/law enforcement.” Managed destabilization assets tend to be protected as long as they're doing the will of the government that created them. That's why we always see a patsy or reports of the bad guys escaping only to be killed with scant evidence of such.
Yup, that's a great way to put it there "as long as they are doing the will of the government".  Which also perfectly explains exactly why for the last 15+ years, you constantly hear about how all these different "terrorists" were ALWAYS under surveillance for years!  Because they are doing the will of TPTB!

And their justification for this change...Abdulmutallab and the false flag Chertoff ordered flaming crotch...

Let's just go through the evidence they had on this guy who was put on the plane by a US INTELLIGENCE OFFICER...

1. His dad, a former minister in Nigeria, informed the US embassy there that his son had been radicalized
2. US intelligence had been following him for a while, dubbing him “the Nigerian”
3. He was on various international watch lists
4. He had been banned from Britain
5. The British intelligence service had identified him to our intelligence agencies in 2008 as a potential threat
6. He bought a one-way ticket to the United States in Africa through Europe
7. He paid cash
8. He checked no luggage
9. He had no passport
10. His VISA was flagged multiple times
11. He was staggering and practically unconscious likely due to forced intake of pharmaceuticals (standard operating procedure for a false flag)
12. HE WAS LED ON THE PLANE BY A SHARP DRESSED US INTELLIGENCE OFFICER
13. THE FACT THAT HE WAS LED ON THE PLANE BY A US INTELLIGENCE OFFICER IS NOT ONLY CONFIRMED BY EYEWITNESSES BUT BY THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE PATRICK KENNEDY

Now how does adding another 10 or 100 million to an illegal watch list help when the INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS ARE COMMITTING THE F-ING TERROR!?!?!?!?!


State Department Admits:
Detroit Christmas Bomber Was Deliberately Allowed to Keep US Entry Visa, Board His Flight

http://tarpley.net/2010/02/11/state-department-admits-detroit-christmas-bomber-was-deliberately-allowed-to-keep-us-entry-visa-board-his-flight/
Webster G. Tarpley TARPLEY.net February 10, 2010


The Detroit Christmas bomber was deliberately and intentionally allowed to keep his US entry visa as the result of a national security override issued by an as yet unknown US intelligence or law-enforcement agency with the goal of blocking the State Department’s planned revocation of that visa. This is the result of hearings held on January 27 before the House Homeland Security Committee, and in particular of the testimony of Patrick F. Kennedy, Undersecretary of State for Management. The rickety US government official version of the December 25 Detroit underwear bomber incident, which has been jerry-built over the past month and a half, has now totally collapsed, and key elements of the terrorism-spawning rogue network inside US agencies and departments are unusually vulnerable to a determined campaign of exposure.

These developments decisively confirm the analysis offered by the present writer in a Dec. 28, 2009 television interview on Russia Today.1 On that occasion, my estimate was that Mutallab was a protected patsy being used by rogue elements of the US intelligence community for the deliberate and intentional creation of a high profile incident with the goal of obtaining a large-scale political effect. On January 4, Richard Wolffe reported on the MSNBC Countdown program that the Obama White House was investigating whether the Detroit Christmas incident had been “intentionally” created by an intelligence network with an “alternative agenda.”2 It was in this report that Wolffe posed the alternative of “cock-up or conspiracy.”3 Unfortunately, Obama opted for the screw-up version on January 5.

Based on what was already known a few days after this incident, it was clear that normal screening and surveillance procedures had been scrapped and aborted in order to allow the youthful patsy Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab of Nigeria to board his flight from Amsterdam in the Netherlands to Detroit. Mutallab’s father, a rich, well known, and reputable Nigerian banker had gone to the US Embassy in his country and formally warned a State Department official as well as a CIA representative that his son was in Yemen and in all probability consorting with terrorists. Under normal circumstances, this report alone would have been more than enough to get Mutallab’s US visa revoked in the same way he had already been denied entry to Great Britain. He also would normally have been placed on the no-fly list, thus setting up two insuperable obstacles to getting on his Detroit bound flight and winging off to produce an incident which caused several weeks of public hysteria in this country, completely with demands for body scanners in airports. In addition, the US intelligence community had reports that a Nigerian was training with the purported “Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula” in Yemen. Obama had called a December 22 meeting with top CIA, FBI, and DHS officials because of reports of a terrorist attack looming during the Christmas holiday.

The January 27 hearings of the House Homeland Security Committee were also addressed by Michael Leiter, the AWOL Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, along with Jane Holl Lute, the Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security, who was sent in place of HHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, who boycotted the hearings. But the important testimony came from Kennedy, whose responsibilities include Consular Services, and therefore visas. In his opening statement, Kennedy offered a tortured circumlocution to describe what had happened. Attempting to head off the question of why the State Department had not revoked Mutallab’s visa, Kennedy stated:

“We will use revocation authority prior to interagency consultation in circumstances where we believe there is an immediate threat. Revocation is an important tool in our border security arsenal. At the same time, expeditious coordination with our national security partners is not to be underestimated. There have been numerous cases where our unilateral and uncoordinated revocation would have disrupted important investigations that were underway by one of our national security partners. They had the individual under investigation and our revocation action would have disclosed the U.S. Government’s interest in the individual and ended our colleagues’ ability to quietly pursue the case and identify terrorists’ plans and co-conspirators.” 4

Undersecretary Kennedy: An Agency Objected to Revoking Visa

Not surprisingly, House Homeland Security Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) wanted to know what that really meant. Here is his exchange with Undersecretary Kennedy:

REP. THOMPSON: Okay. So — all right. So he has a visa. So what does that do? In the process, does it revoke the visa? Does it —

MR. KENNEDY: We — as I mentioned in my statement, Mr. Chairman, if we unilaterally revoked a visa — and there was a case recently up — we have a request from a law enforcement agency to not revoke the visa. We came across information; we said this is a dangerous person. We were ready to revoke the visa. We then went to the community and said, should we revoke this visa? And one of the members — and we’d be glad to give you that out of — in private — said, please do not revoke this visa. We have eyes on this person. We are following this person who has the visa for the purpose of trying roll up an entire network, not just stop one person. So we will revoke the visa of any individual who is a threat to the United States, but we do take one preliminary step. We ask our law enforcement and intelligence community partners, do you have eyes on this person, and so you want us to let this person proceed under your surveillance so that you may potentially break a larger plot?

REP. THOMPSON: Well, I think that the point that I’m trying to get at is, is this just another box you’re checking, or is that some security value to add in that box, to the list?

MR. KENNEDY: The intelligence and law enforcement community tell us that they believe in certain cases that there’s a higher value of them following this person so they can find his or her co-conspirators and roll up an entire plot against the United States, rather than simply knock out one soldier in that effort.5

What Kennedy is saying is that the established bureaucratic routine calls for the State Department to inquire of the other intelligence and law enforcement agencies that compose the US intelligence community whether they have any objection to the lifting of a visa. In this case, reports Kennedy, there was such an objection from at least one agency, based on their contention that Mutallab was under intensive scrutiny as part of an operation which might lead to the discovery and arrest of far bigger fish. We should also notice that Kennedy is extremely reluctant to speak before the committee in public session about exactly which intelligence or law-enforcement agency this was, and that the members of the committee do not demand an immediate straight answer. Perhaps Kennedy told them later, behind the closed doors of a secret executive session. But after weeks of hysteria, the public has a right to know.

Classic Use of National Security Override to Protect A Patsy

What we see here is a classic example of the use of a national security override on the part of subversive moles who are performing their most basic responsibility of protecting a patsy by preventing him from being arrested or otherwise interfered with until that patsy can perform his assigned task and produce the desired incident, with the goal of inducing an intensive political response in the form of a wave of public hysteria. With this method, the name of the patsy is in effect flagged in all the relevant databases with the notation that this person is the target of an ongoing investigation which cannot be interfered with because of overriding national security concerns. This means that the patsy in question is immune to arrest by traffic cops, airport and border officials, or any other law enforcement official. The patsy is untouchable — until of course the terrorist provocation has been carried out.

Various alleged 9/11 figures operated for extended periods of time inside the US, evidently under the cover of such national security overrides. How did the accused 19 9/11 hijackers enter and leave this country, obtain visas, rent apartments, acquire checking accounts and credit cards, obtain driver’s licenses, register vehicles, rent cars, attend flight schools, and repeatedly fly on US domestic airlines? How did they escape arrest for traffic violations, which some of them committed? The answer is in all likelihood that they had been made untouchable to ordinary law enforcement because their names had been flagged with national security overrides which made them immune to arrest for routine infractions or because their names appeared on watch lists and similar databases.

Congressman Michael McCaul (R-TX) returned to this sensitive issue in his questioning of Undersecretary Kennedy, leading to the following exchange:

REP. MCCAUL: Well, I think there needs to be a lot better coordination going on here between these two entities. And Mr. Kennedy, why given the information that you had, why wasn’t the VISA revoked?

MR. KENNEDY: Sir, as I mentioned earlier, when we get any information, when anyone appears at an American embassy and they say that they have doubts about someone, we immediately generate what is called a visa VIPER message. We sent that to the entire law enforcement and intelligence —

REP. MCCAUL: My problem — I understand the process. But you had this information, and you didn’t revoke the VISA.

MR. KENNEDY: Because —

REP. MCCAUL: I mean the cable I just read makes it pretty clear that this man is associated with extremists in Yemen, and you didn’t revoke his VISA.

MR. KENNEDY: What it was, sir, is his father said he was associated with this. And so we then asked the intelligence and law enforcement communities if they have any other information. I don’t want to take much of your time, and I’d glad to visit with you afterwards. 6

We note again the tremendous reticence of Undersecretary Kennedy in getting into the details of how the national security override was issued in the case of Mutallab’s visa. Kennedy suggests he will explain it all to the Congressman in private, but not in the full glare of public opinion were his words will end up on the Federal News transcript.

Demand to Know Who Let Mutallab Keep His Visa

Instead, it is imperative for the preservation of democratic institutions that the full details be known of how the State Department was prevented from revoking Mutallab’s visa. We want to know which agency demanded that Mutallab not be interfered with. We want to know the names and posts held by the officials who issued the override of the State Department’s proposal. We want these officials fired. We want these officials thoroughly investigated. We want them to appear before public congressional hearings. We want them to be the targets of civil suits by airlines and other interested parties. We want to find out the nature of any privately controlled intelligence networks to which they may belong. Such an investigation may well lead outside of the United States, and most particularly to the United Kingdom. Mutallab comes from Nigeria, a former British colony. He spent several years in London, the site of MI-6’s Londonistan school for Islamic fundamentalist extremist patsies and fanatics, where he was apparently radicalized. Mutallab was then you sheep dipped into Yemen, another former British colony, where he was placed in contact with Awlaki the CIA lackey, a notorious double agent and agent provocateur. Given the fact that Mutallab was operating outside of this US, the CIA is an obvious suspect, but not the only one.

There is every reason to conclude that the rogue network of moles operating inside US intelligence — otherwise known as the invisible government or shadow government — knew that Mutallab was coming, knew that he would be carrying a device resembling a bomb, and wanted him to enter the skies over Detroit. (Whether Mutallab’s handlers thought they were giving him a bomb that would actually go off is a separate question.) They did all this because they sincerely wanted a major terrorist provocation of the US population, designed to unleash waves of Islamophobic hysteria that would be useful for the support of ongoing operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and quite possibly against Iran.

Not Body Scanners, But Mole Detectors at CIA and FBI

Earlier commentaries on this incident had alleged a failure to connect the dots. As it now transpires, the dots were evidently connected by the State Department, but their action was blocked by an override issued by another agency. Another popular cover story for the failure of screening and surveillance on Christmas between Amsterdam and Detroit was that Mutallab’s name had been misspelled when entered into the relevant antiterrorist database. Kennedy conceded in his testimony that one such data entry was misspelled, but another one was entered accurately. All of this needs to be viewed with great skepticism.

Apart from these details, it should be clear to all that the official US account of the Detroit Christmas incident has now been completely refuted. We do not need body scanners at airports. We need mole detectors installed at the CIA, FBI, DIA, NSA, State Department, NCTC, and the National Security Council. The urgent necessity is now to find out precisely who issued a critical override that allowed Mutallab to keep his visa and board his flight to Detroit. Pull on that thread and revelations might well follow that lead back to the networks behind 9/11, Iran Contra, and much else. Political forces friendly to Obama have tended to see this case as staged in order to embarrass the tenant of the White House. These forces should now demand immediate congressional hearings into the allegations contained in Undersecretary Kennedy’s testimony.


1http://tarpley.net/2009/12/28/tarpley-on-rt-nigerian-patsy-helps-us-meddling-in-yemen-civil-war/
2http://tarpley.net/2010/01/05/obama-white-house-probing-rogue-network-of-moles-behind-christmas-detroit-patsy-fiasco-reports-richard-wolffe-on-msnbc/
3http://tarpley.net/2010/01/06/obama-flubs-his-first-bay-of-pigs-moment-as-terror-moles-escape-purge/
4 http://www.state.gov/m/rls/remarks/2010/135865.htm
5See Federal News Service transcript of the Q&A before the committee at: http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=25151&docId=l:1117012781&start=15 , emphasis added.
6See Federal News Service transcript of the Q&A before the committee at: http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=25151&docId=l:1117012781&start=15 , emphasis added.
Context of 'January 27, 2010: State Department Told Not to Revoke Christmas Day Bomber’s Visa'
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a012710novisarevoke



December 25, 2009: Man Attempts to Set Off Bomb on Flight to US

A man on board Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit is subdued by passengers after attempting to detonate a makeshift bomb hidden in his undergarments. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old man from Nigeria, tries to ignite a mixture of plastic and liquid explosives sewn into his underwear as the Airbus 330 makes its final descent into Detroit. Abdulmutallab is set afire and suffers serious burns along with two other passengers, is detained by passengers and crew, and is arrested after landing. The suspect previously flew on a KLM flight from Lagos to Amsterdam. MI5 and US intelligence officials begin an investigation into his social ties and background. Abdulmutallab is the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker and studied engineering at University College London for three years until June 2008. His father claims to have informed Nigerian and American officials of his son’s increasingly unusual behavior and activities. US officials allegedly placed the 23-year-old on a list of suspected extremists, yet he possesses a US visa valid from June 2008 to June 2010, and appears on no lists prohibiting air travel to the US. Following the event, the US government will request that all passengers traveling from Britain to the US be subjected to additional personal and baggage searches. Security measures at US airports will also be heightened. [The Telegraph, 12/26/2009; New York Times, 12/26/2009]


January 27, 2010: State Department Told Not to Revoke Christmas Day Bomber’s Visa

Testimony by Patrick F. Kennedy, an under secretary for management at the State Department, before the House Committee on Homeland Security confirms that US intelligence officials prevented the State Department from revoking the US visa of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. The 23-year-old Nigerian student, whom US intelligence believed was working with the Yemeni arm of al-Qaeda, attempted to set off a bomb on Northwest Flight 253 into Detroit on December 25, 2009 (see December 25, 2009). Kennedy informs the committee’s chairman, Congressman Bennie Thompson (D-MS): “We will revoke the visa of any individual who is a threat to the United States, but we do take one preliminary step. We ask our law enforcement and intelligence community partners, ‘Do you have eyes on this person and do you want us to let this person proceed under your surveillance so that you may potentially break a larger plot?’ And one of the members—and we’d be glad to give you that out of—in private—said: ‘Please do not revoke this visa. We have eyes on this person. We are following this person who has the visa for the purpose of trying to roll up an entire network, not just stop one person.’” With the exception of a story appearing in the Detroit News, this revelation will go unreported in mainstream news media outlets. [US Congress. House. Committee on Homeland Security, 1/27/2010; Detroit News, 1/27/2010]

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 22, 2015, 12:56:03 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


  VIDEO AT THE LINK.....

Cancel the Debate! CNN Caught Selectively-Editing Trump’s ‘Muslim’ Comments


This is quite funny since breitbart are doing exactly the same thing as cnn.

While it is probably true that Trump said "I would implement that" with reference to the wall he wants to build, the reporter then asked him "About Muslims specifically, would you register them in mosques?" to which Trump replied "Lot's of places, just needs good management"; the reporter then asked whether registration would be mandatory to which Trump replied "it would have to be".

Breitbart failed to mention that..

So it's clear, Trump was advocating a compulsory Muslim List and breitbart's dishonest spin cannot hide that.

The FULL video can be viewed here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3326559/It-s-management-Donald-Trump-backs-mandatory-database-track-Muslims-United-States.html#ixzz3sFSkH7V4



Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 22, 2015, 01:05:03 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/21/donald-trump-rips-dishonest-media-wants-surveillance-certain-mosques/


Donald Trump Rips ‘Dishonest Media,’ Wants ‘Surveillance of Certain Mosques’


Trump is lying and backtracking and trying to weasel out of what he is clearly on record as saying. He might be new to politics but he isn't wasting any time in emulating the worst dissembling political hacks out there.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 22, 2015, 01:11:06 pm
Well, I was just trying to point out that we are talking about
cold-blooded murderers ... we would be stupid to hobble
ourselves with either political correctness or fear of over-reach
by law enforcement ... it is just common sense to monitor
suspects. Personally I am paranoid about govt spying on
individuals ... I have never carried a cellphone for instance,
for that reason.

I don't think Trump meant to say that ALL muslims in the US
should be electronically monitored ... I believe it was just an
off-the-cuff response to imply that SOMETHING has to be done ...
these tens (hundreds?) of thousands of practically unknown islamists
entering the country via immigration should be considered possibly
terror-prone ... duh! Electronic monitoring of recent, 'impossible
to vet' people from terrorist-ridden areas just seems common sense
to me. Same for GANGSTERS from South of the Border.

Having said that, though, it would probably not stop the crazies
who are usually suicidal maniacs. The use of 'tagging' for 'home
released' dangerous criminals is considered by many just a gesture,
a too lenient method to try to reduce prison over-crowding, for instance.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=235313.msg1510384#msg1510384

I, like Tahoe, can see this hoopla is just another empty attack ...
a grasping at straws ... to try to get some anti-Trump action going.

ã WIKIPEDIA: Electronic tagging - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_tagging

You are 'paranoid' about government intrusion but only for yourself it seems - it's ok if others are targeted

It's not an empty attack on Trump because we gained an insight into the guy's lack of judgement and general lack of comprehension of the issues involved, and with the latest dissembling, his lack of honesty.

From this incident alone, Trump is exposed as an ill-considered fascist totalitarian, and then a liar and a dissembler; so quite revealing.

But maybe that's ok if he's your totalitarian dissembler..
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 22, 2015, 01:18:08 pm
Hope you are enjoying your "freedom" in EU controlled Germany ...

You are 'paranoid' about government intrusion but only for yourself it seems - it's ok if others are targeted

It's not an empty attack on Trump because we gained an insight into the guy's lack of judgement and general lack of comprehension of the issues involved, and with the latest dissembling, his lack of honesty.

From this incident alone, Trump is exposed as an ill-considered fascist totalitarian, and then a liar and a dissembler; so quite revealing.
But maybe that's ok since he's your totalitarian dissembler..
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 22, 2015, 01:24:50 pm
Hope you are enjoying your "freedom" in EU controlled Germany ...

Meaning what..that it's so much freer in the banker-controlled US? That's quite a joke. There are a great many Americans in Germany and elsewhere in Europe who would never go back to living in the US, and I would be one of them were it not for family commitments.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 22, 2015, 01:58:08 pm
Meaning what..that it's so much freer in the banker-controlled US? That's quite a joke. There are a great many Americans in Germany and elsewhere in Europe who would never go back to living in the US, and I would be one of them were it not for family commitments.

(http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors31/jeff-daly-quote-when-considering-praise-or-criticism-first-consider.jpg)
Just considering the source ...
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 22, 2015, 02:04:39 pm

Just considering the source ...

I see..well in this case, and I suspect in most cases, the source as a geographical location is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: One Revelator on November 22, 2015, 05:29:52 pm
Donald Trump and Ben Carson, the two enduring frontrunners in the race to become the Republican party’s presidential candidate, have both indicated they would bring back waterboarding and other forms of “enhanced interrogation” that were dropped by the US government, having widely been denounced as a form of torture.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-and-carson-back-use-of-waterboarding-in-fight-against-isis/ar-BBnjzIF
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 22, 2015, 06:08:56 pm
You are 'paranoid' about government intrusion but only for yourself it seems - it's ok if others are targeted

It's not an empty attack on Trump because we gained an insight into the guy's lack of judgement and general lack of comprehension of the issues involved, and with the latest dissembling, his lack of honesty.

From this incident alone, Trump is exposed as an ill-considered fascist totalitarian, and then a liar and a dissembler; so quite revealing.

But maybe that's ok if he's your totalitarian dissembler..

THE VIDEO: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


Again, this wole hoopla is so miniscule it is ridiculous ... the guy was asking 'gotcha'
questions ... THEN his bosses edited and rigged the conversation. Go back and watch it!
You can see Trump had not thought thru the whole notion of 'tracking' suspects (the
reporter brought it up out of the blue). PARAPHRASING - DT looks at him half understanding the
question , "Oh, yeah ... there are lots of things we gotta do, blah, blah, blah" ... then he
took the conversation back to his real 'platform', a border 'wall'. Go to the 20sec mark,
you can see the edit:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Reporter: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims who are in this country?

Trump: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we need to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.

Reporter: Is that something your White House would like to implement?

Donald Trump: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

THEY EDITED OUT THE RED!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DT says he really thought the reporter was referring to HIS concept
of a stronger border ... not some nebulous, cooked up by a half-assed
reporter 'data-base'. NBC rigged this entire thing ... INVENTED it from
whole cloth and it spread like wild-fire because CERTAIN NUMBSKULLS,
dissemblers all, lapped-it-up, took the bait, hook, line and sinker.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 22, 2015, 07:08:36 pm
THE VIDEO: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


Again, this wole hoopla is so miniscule it is ridiculous ... the guy was asking 'gotcha'
questions ... THEN his bosses edited and rigged the conversation. Go back and watch it!
You can see Trump had not thought thru the whole notion of 'tracking' suspects (the
reporter brought it up out of the blue). PARAPHRASING - DT looks at him half understanding the
question , "Oh, yeah ... there are lots of things we gotta do, blah, blah, blah" ... then he
took the conversation back to his real 'platform', a border 'wall'. Go to the 20sec mark,
you can see the edit:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Reporter: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims who are in this country?

Trump: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we need to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.

Reporter: Is that something your White House would like to implement?

Donald Trump: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

THEY EDITED OUT THE RED!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DT says he really thought the reporter was referring to HIS concept
of a stronger border ... not some nebulous, cooked up by a half-assed
reporter 'data-base'. NBC rigged this entire thing ... INVENTED it from
whole cloth and it spread like wild-fire because CERTAIN NUMBSKULLS,
dissemblers all, lapped-it-up, took the bait, hook, line and sinker.

haha, before blowing a gasket, and abusing the oversized red bolded font, you should have read my other replies on this thread. I answered this point in reply 535 - brietbart were even more dishonest than cnn..

So when you've read that, and then visited the link I posted, and viewed the FULL video clips, come back here and carry on talking about about NUMBSKULLS.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 22, 2015, 07:36:56 pm
^^^

No, I read thru all that 'gotcha' stuff ... and it was not
Breitbart that broke the story that NBC edited the
vid on the Hit Piece ... it was Rush on the day after.
The BIG THING here is that the discredited MSM is
playing this as if DT said and believes the US should
electronically TRACK ALL muslims! Trump clearly
thinks the LIBTARD questioner is referring to the
RECENT unknown 'migrants' from terror-prone areas ...
the RECENT MIGRANTS that the last few news cycles
have been about, near wall-to-wall, since similar
'migrants' in PARIS gunned down those people!
Monitor Mosques ... heck yeah! They are cover for
these _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. We are at war ... get a clue.





Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 22, 2015, 08:31:32 pm
^^^

No, I read thru all that 'gotcha' stuff ... and it was not
Breitbart that broke the story that NBC edited the
vid on the Hit Piece ... it was Rush on the day after.
The BIG THING here is that the discredited MSM is
playing this as if DT said and believes the US should
electronically TRACK ALL muslims! Trump clearly
thinks the LIBTARD questioner is referring to the
RECENT unknown 'migrants' from terror-prone areas ...
the RECENT MIGRANTS that the last few news cycles
have been about, near wall-to-wall, since similar
'migrants' in PARIS gunned down those people!
Monitor Mosques ... heck yeah! They are cover for
these _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. We are at war ... get a clue.

Neither you nor Trump can get your stories straight. First you say that he was referring to his wall idea, now you say "oh no he meant recent migrants".

Well he had plenty of opportunity to say what he meant, and to denounce the idea of a Muslim List when it was put to him not just once but later the same day. He did not do so, and what he did say was very clear.

You can carry on covering and obfuscating aand making excuses all you want, but the evidence is clear for anyone to see, which I suspect you still haven't even watched.

Trump has been exposed as a fascist totalitarian, and a dissembling liar; no wonder he is best pals with the Clintons.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 22, 2015, 08:48:37 pm
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-trump-retakes-lead-gop-race-cruz-makes-gains-n466651

  article dated 11/20/2015

Donald Trump Retakes Lead in GOP Race; Ted Cruz Makes Gains: Poll

(http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_47/1310101/3sm_bf7638762ef35cf161700c54c24c7542.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 22, 2015, 08:58:44 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/22/the-paris-attacks-appear-to-have-vaulted-donald-trump-higher-in-the-polls/?postshare=7601448221594231&tid=ss_tw

The Paris attacks have only made Donald Trump stronger

Not to unduly stress out Reince Priebus and the other members of the Republican establishment, but there are only 71 days until the Iowa caucuses, and only eight more days after that until New Hampshire. That's of now, Sunday, Nov. 22, a day on which a slew of new polls show that Donald Trump has improved his leads in both of those states and nationally.

Seventy-one days ago, the national Republican front-runner was ... Donald Trump, who led by 13.8 points in the Real Clear Politics polling average. Seventy-one days before that, though, the front-runner was Jeb Bush. If you add Bush's national polling average to that of the second-place candidate, Ben Carson, Trump would still be winning by two points.

This is something of a reversal. Here's the long-term trend of Trump's lead in both states and nationally.

(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2015/11/TrumpPolls.jpg&w=1484)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Al Bundy on November 23, 2015, 08:27:14 am
Serbian starlets and star of "reality show" Stanija Dobrijević campaign for Donald Trump.  ::)

http://www.alo.rs/stanija-u-kampanji-donalda-trampa/3641http://
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 23, 2015, 11:12:46 am
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/22/donald-trump-again-insists-he-saw-celebrations-in-new-jersey-on-sept-11/?_r=0
Donald Trump Again Insists He Saw Celebrations in New Jersey on Sept. 11


http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&the_alleged_9/11_hijackers=otherHijackers
(http://cdn.historycommons.org/images/events/121_salem_alhazmi_id_card.jpg)
A portion of Salem Alhazmi’s New Jersey identification card. [Source: 9/11 Commission] (click image to enlarge)

December 30, 2000: Three 9/11 Hijackers Possibly in Eastern US, Despite Official Claims to the Contrary
Documents obtained by Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, and Salem Alhazmi indicate that they are in the New Jersey / New York area at this time, although the cards may be later fakes. All three hijackers obtain USA ID cards whose expiry date is December 30, 2006
...
...

June 27-August 23, 2001: Hijackers Open Bank Accounts in New Jersey, Information Sufficient to Roll Up Plot

All the hijackers based in New Jersey open at least one bank account there:
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on June 27, 2001;

March 2001-September 1, 2001: Hanjour and Other 9/11 Hijackers Live in Paterson, New Jersey

9/11 hijackers Hani Hanjour and Salem Alhazmi rent a one-room apartment in Paterson, New Jersey. Hanjour signs the lease. Hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi, Saeed Alghamdi, and Mohamed Atta are also seen coming and going by neighbors.
...

June 27-August 23, 2001: Hijackers Open Bank Accounts in New Jersey, Information Sufficient to Roll Up Plot
 
All the hijackers based in New Jersey open at least one bank account there:
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on June 27, 2001;
bullet He opens another account with the same bank three days later, when Nawaf Alhazmi also opens one;
bullet Ahmed Alghamdi, Nawaf Alhazmi, and Majed Moqed open accounts with the Dime Savings Bank on July 9, 2001;
bullet Khalid Almihdhar opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 18, 2001. He closes it on August 31;
bullet Salem Alhazmi opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 21, 2001;
bullet Abdulaziz Alomari opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 26, 2001;
bullet Khalid Almihdhar opens an account with the First Union National Bank on August 22, 2001 with a $50 deposit. He changes his contact address on September 5;
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with First Union National Bank on August 23, 2001 with a $50 deposit. He then attempts to withdraw $5,000 on September 5 and $4,900 from it on September 7, despite it containing nothing but the original $50. Unable to make the withdrawal, he cashes a $20 check instead. Hanjour closes the account the next day

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Of course there were also the Dancing Israelis  (probably Mossad agents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

Uploaded on Jan 5, 2007


Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know ... They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)

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see: 9/11 Memorandum Commission Select Committees 2004 - Israeli Surveillance   (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=83124.0)
(http://www.mygen.com/images/911deamap3_sm.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4
American Muslims celebrating 9/11
Uploaded on Nov 6, 2009
On Anderson Cooper 360, a group called the "Revolution Islam" praise the Fort Hodd shooter Major. Malik Nadal Hasan.
They also love Osama bin laden, celebrate september 11, and are Muslims living in America.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Effie Trinket on November 24, 2015, 07:22:12 pm
"The Obama deception was one of the craftiest and cynical strategies ever cooked up by these guys (bankers). And now with Hillary vs The Donald, they've outdone themselves. They know the whole Hope thing has played out, so they're moving onto this epic WWF matchup as the ultimate distraction."
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 25, 2015, 10:42:18 am
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151113-20151124/type/day

  Latest poll.  Holy cow.  Is the race over?



Possible Republican presidential candidates in 2016---Nov 24, 2015

  TRUMP---38%

  CRUZ---11.6

  CARSON---11.5

  RUBIO---8.2

  WOULDN'T VOTE---7.4

  BUSH---5.7

  HUCKABEE---3.2

  KASICH---3.0

  FIORINA---2.8

 





 


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: pac522 on November 25, 2015, 05:24:11 pm
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151113-20151124/type/day

  Latest poll.  Holy cow.  Is the race over?



Possible Republican presidential candidates in 2016---Nov 24, 2015

  TRUMP---38%

  CRUZ---11.6

  CARSON---11.5

  RUBIO---8.2

  WOULDN'T VOTE---7.4

  BUSH---5.7

  HUCKABEE---3.2

  KASICH---3.0

  FIORINA---2.8

 

You damn straight its over. Trump is more compromised then any of them and whats worse is that people think he isn't.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 25, 2015, 05:24:51 pm
Trump will be our next President!  ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: jofortruth on November 25, 2015, 05:45:38 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/22/donald-trump-again-insists-he-saw-celebrations-in-new-jersey-on-sept-11/?_r=0
Donald Trump Again Insists He Saw Celebrations in New Jersey on Sept. 11


http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&the_alleged_9/11_hijackers=otherHijackers
(http://cdn.historycommons.org/images/events/121_salem_alhazmi_id_card.jpg)
A portion of Salem Alhazmi’s New Jersey identification card. [Source: 9/11 Commission] (click image to enlarge)

December 30, 2000: Three 9/11 Hijackers Possibly in Eastern US, Despite Official Claims to the Contrary
Documents obtained by Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, and Salem Alhazmi indicate that they are in the New Jersey / New York area at this time, although the cards may be later fakes. All three hijackers obtain USA ID cards whose expiry date is December 30, 2006
...
...

June 27-August 23, 2001: Hijackers Open Bank Accounts in New Jersey, Information Sufficient to Roll Up Plot

All the hijackers based in New Jersey open at least one bank account there:
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on June 27, 2001;

March 2001-September 1, 2001: Hanjour and Other 9/11 Hijackers Live in Paterson, New Jersey

9/11 hijackers Hani Hanjour and Salem Alhazmi rent a one-room apartment in Paterson, New Jersey. Hanjour signs the lease. Hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi, Saeed Alghamdi, and Mohamed Atta are also seen coming and going by neighbors.
...

June 27-August 23, 2001: Hijackers Open Bank Accounts in New Jersey, Information Sufficient to Roll Up Plot
 
All the hijackers based in New Jersey open at least one bank account there:
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on June 27, 2001;
bullet He opens another account with the same bank three days later, when Nawaf Alhazmi also opens one;
bullet Ahmed Alghamdi, Nawaf Alhazmi, and Majed Moqed open accounts with the Dime Savings Bank on July 9, 2001;
bullet Khalid Almihdhar opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 18, 2001. He closes it on August 31;
bullet Salem Alhazmi opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 21, 2001;
bullet Abdulaziz Alomari opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 26, 2001;
bullet Khalid Almihdhar opens an account with the First Union National Bank on August 22, 2001 with a $50 deposit. He changes his contact address on September 5;
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with First Union National Bank on August 23, 2001 with a $50 deposit. He then attempts to withdraw $5,000 on September 5 and $4,900 from it on September 7, despite it containing nothing but the original $50. Unable to make the withdrawal, he cashes a $20 check instead. Hanjour closes the account the next day

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Of course there were also the Dancing Israelis  (probably Mossad agents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

Uploaded on Jan 5, 2007


Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know ... They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4
American Muslims celebrating 9/11
Uploaded on Nov 6, 2009
On Anderson Cooper 360, a group called the "Revolution Islam" praise the Fort Hodd shooter Major. Malik Nadal Hasan.
They also love Osama bin laden, celebrate september 11, and are Muslims living in America.



Interesting!

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=154286.msg916252;topicseen#msg916252



Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Effie Trinket on November 25, 2015, 05:50:45 pm
Trump will be our next President!  ;)
http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-waterboarding-torture
Donald Trump Promises to Bring Back Waterboarding and Worse Torture: 'If It Doesn't Work, They Deserve It Anyway'

BY TIERNEY MCAFEE @tierneymcafee 11/24/2015 AT 04:15 PM EST
Donald Trump is doubling down on his promise to reinstate waterboarding as an accepted form of interrogation – and taking it one step further by saying he'd approve even worse torture.

"Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would – in a heartbeat," Trump said to cheers during a rally in Columbus, Ohio, Monday night, according to The Washington Post. "And I would approve more than that. Don't kid yourself, folks. It works, okay? It works. Only a stupid person would say it doesn't work."

Trump added that waterboarding – a controversial interrogation tactic that was banned by the Obama administration and classified by the United Nations as torture – is what's needed to deal with terrorists who "chop off our young people's heads" and "build these iron cages, and they'll put 20 people in them and they drop them in the ocean for 15 minutes and pull them up 15 minutes later."

"It works," Trump repeated of waterboarding. "Believe me, it works. And you know what? If it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway, for what they're doing."

Trump first vowed to bring back waterboarding on Sunday during an appearance on ABC's This Week, saying of ISIS, "I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do to us."

"What they're doing to us, what they did to James Foley when they chopped off his head, that's a whole different level and I would absolutely bring back interrogation and strong interrogation," he added.

Trump's waterboarding remarks are the latest in a string of controversial comments he's made over the past few days.

On Saturday, he repeated his claim that he saw thousands of New Jersey Arabs cheering the collapse of the Twin Towers on 9/11 – an urban myth police have said never happened.

On Sunday, he was branded racist after he tweeted a graphic with fake statistics about murders in the U.S. that depicted black people as the biggest perpetrators.

That same day, he suggested that the Black Lives Matter activist who was physically attacked when he disrupted the real estate mogul's speech at a campaign rally Saturday "should have been roughed up" because he was "so obnoxious and loud."


Facebook
Twitter


Nevertheless, a new national poll from FOX News shows Trump has more support than ever from Republican primary voters.

But his latest antics are apparently the last straw for The Washington Post editorial board.

On Wednesday night, the board published a scathing post labeling Trump a "dangerous" and "narcissistic" "[bully] who [rose] to prominence by spreading lies, appealing to fears and stoking hatred."

The Post also called for Republicans to speak out against the GOP front-runner because "the only way to beat a bully is to stand up to him."
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on November 25, 2015, 09:06:29 pm
Trump is saying and doing all the right things---and the others are in the OLD Play Book!

...Trump is NEW, and Smart, and this is what the USA needs at this point in history!

...Believe it /or/Not!
;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: pac522 on November 25, 2015, 09:45:33 pm
Not.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 26, 2015, 01:12:04 pm


... Trump to RNC/Priebus: ... the attack ads better stop ... or else.


TRUMP DANGLES LAWYERS AT
RNC AMID ATTACK ADS

GOP front-runner warns 'bad, bad decision'
to allow campaign sabotage

CHERYL CHUMLEY

An attorney for Donald Trump sent a stern warning to the Republican National Committee via CNN broadcast, setting Reince Priebus on notice – along with those in the establishment wing of the party who are trying to take down the front-runner candidate – by saying the attacks better stop, or else.

Michael Cohen, one of Trump’s attorneys, referenced the pact Trump made with the RNC a few weeks to support the eventual Republican Party candidate, even if it weren’t him. But that agreement came with a caveat. As Cohen said, the terms were null and void if the RNC unleashed attack dogs on Trump.

“If they treat him fairly, he will honor the pledge because he’s an honorable guy,” Cohen said, CNN reported. “If they break that agreement with him, as they say: ‘woe be on them.’”

http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/trump-dangles-lawyers-at-rnc-amid-attack-ads/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Qster on November 26, 2015, 06:58:47 pm
http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-waterboarding-torture
Donald Trump Promises to Bring Back Waterboarding and Worse Torture: 'If It Doesn't Work, They Deserve It Anyway'

BY TIERNEY MCAFEE @tierneymcafee 11/24/2015 AT 04:15 PM EST
Donald Trump is doubling down on his promise to reinstate waterboarding as an accepted form of interrogation – and taking it one step further by saying he'd approve even worse torture.

"Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would – in a heartbeat," Trump said to cheers during a rally in Columbus, Ohio, Monday night, according to The Washington Post. "And I would approve more than that. Don't kid yourself, folks. It works, okay? It works. Only a stupid person would say it doesn't work."

Trump added that waterboarding – a controversial interrogation tactic that was banned by the Obama administration and classified by the United Nations as torture – is what's needed to deal with terrorists who "chop off our young people's heads" and "build these iron cages, and they'll put 20 people in them and they drop them in the ocean for 15 minutes and pull them up 15 minutes later."

"It works," Trump repeated of waterboarding. "Believe me, it works. And you know what? If it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway, for what they're doing."

Trump first vowed to bring back waterboarding on Sunday during an appearance on ABC's This Week, saying of ISIS, "I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do to us."

"What they're doing to us, what they did to James Foley when they chopped off his head, that's a whole different level and I would absolutely bring back interrogation and strong interrogation," he added.

Trump's waterboarding remarks are the latest in a string of controversial comments he's made over the past few days.

On Saturday, he repeated his claim that he saw thousands of New Jersey Arabs cheering the collapse of the Twin Towers on 9/11 – an urban myth police have said never happened.

On Sunday, he was branded racist after he tweeted a graphic with fake statistics about murders in the U.S. that depicted black people as the biggest perpetrators.

That same day, he suggested that the Black Lives Matter activist who was physically attacked when he disrupted the real estate mogul's speech at a campaign rally Saturday "should have been roughed up" because he was "so obnoxious and loud."


Facebook
Twitter


Nevertheless, a new national poll from FOX News shows Trump has more support than ever from Republican primary voters.

But his latest antics are apparently the last straw for The Washington Post editorial board.

On Wednesday night, the board published a scathing post labeling Trump a "dangerous" and "narcissistic" "[bully] who [rose] to prominence by spreading lies, appealing to fears and stoking hatred."

The Post also called for Republicans to speak out against the GOP front-runner because "the only way to beat a bully is to stand up to him."

This guy is a craven goon. I wonder how many others this coward has had 'roughed up' or 'worse'. You can take the man from the hood but not the hoodlum from the man.

Mr FIVE deferments Trump should try waterboarding and 'worse' for himself.

And people want this chicken-hawk slumlord as their president? What a joke.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: pac522 on November 26, 2015, 08:52:40 pm
This guy is a craven goon. I wonder how many others this coward has had 'roughed up' or 'worse'. You can take the man from the hood but not the hoodlum from the man.

Mr FIVE deferments Trump should try waterboarding and 'worse' for himself.

And people want this chicken-hawk slumlord as their president? What a joke.



I posted this on another thread, let me repost it here for those that may have missed it.



Joey Diaz on Joe Rogan nails just a portion of Trump back in the 1980s. If you guys don't think Trump is compromised then you got another thing coming.

NSFW


Joey Diaz on Donald Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owgPCYGxjfE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owgPCYGxjfE)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 27, 2015, 09:07:27 am
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/261252-gop-in-panic-over-trump

GOP in panic over Trump


The Republican establishment is nearing full-blown panic about Donald Trump.

The demise of Trump’s candidacy has been predicted by centrist Republicans and the media alike virtually since the day it began. But there is no empirical evidence at all to suggest it is happening.

Last month, the liberal ThinkProgress collated more than 30 predictions of the business mogul’s imminent demise. One typical example was The Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart, who discerned “the beginning of the end of Trump” in mid-July, soon after the mogul criticized the Vietnam War record of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

Despite all that, Trump has led the RealClearPolitics (RCP) polling average in a virtually unbroken spell for four months. The only person to briefly wrest the lead away from him, Dr. Ben Carson, appears to be fading. And numerous polls show Trump drawing double the support of his closest establishment-friendly rival, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on November 27, 2015, 09:18:42 am
^^^ Very true, but I caution don't underestimate the power of the republicrats.  Trumps winning the nomination was domed the day he signed the pledge.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 27, 2015, 09:32:27 am


  Well, if they put up a NWO Scum such as Rubio, the Trump supporters will stay at home in Nov 2016.  I know that I could only pull the lever for 2 people in 2016---Trump or Cruz.  The Establishment likes neither.  It is sad that a rat bastard---Karl Rove--- is behind this.  ROVE IS A WORTHLESS HUMAN BEING.  THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONLY TIME IN HIS LIFE THAT ROVE HAS SWEATED BECAUSE WE KNOW HE HAS NEVER WORKED AN HONEST DAY IN HIS LIFE.

  Paraphrasing Trump---If we don't protect the borders, we don't have a country.  Cruz and Trump are adamant about protecting the border with Mexico. 

 

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on November 27, 2015, 09:51:35 am

  Well, if they put up a NWO Scum such as Rubio, the Trump supporters will stay at home in Nov 2016.  I know that I could only pull the lever for 2 people in 2016---Trump or Cruz.  The Establishment likes neither.  It is sad that a rat bastard---Karl Rove--- is behind this.  ROVE IS A WORTHLESS HUMAN BEING.  THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONLY TIME IN HIS LIFE THAT ROVE HAS SWEATED BECAUSE WE KNOW HE HAS NEVER WORKED AN HONEST DAY IN HIS LIFE.

  Paraphrasing Trump---If we don't protect the borders, we don't have a country.  Cruz and Trump are adamant about protecting the border with Mexico. 

 

 

I agree; I could also vote for Rand Paul, but his handlers really make me sick.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 27, 2015, 10:04:15 am
^^^^^^^^^

  Yes I could vote for Rand but he is always running less than 5% in the polls.  I just don't see him rising.

  There are only 4 candidates that are usually above 10% at the present time---Trump, Carson, Cruz and Rubio. 

  Just saw a poll on Fox---Trump 25, Cruz 23, Carson 18, Rubio 13.   They said that Carson is slipping.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 27, 2015, 10:38:31 am
^^^^^^^^^

  Yes I could vote for Rand but he is always running less than 5% in the polls.  I just don't see him rising.

  There are only 4 candidates that are usually above 10% at the present time---Trump, Carson, Cruz and Rubio. 

  Just saw a poll on Fox---Trump 25, Cruz 23, Carson 18, Rubio 13.   They said that Carson is slipping.

The "establishment" is pushing hard for Cruz now ...  Notice that Cruz has taken up most of Trump's positions as a mock turtle and Rubio acts like he was never for immigration reform ...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Alice_par_John_Tenniel_34.png/250px-Alice_par_John_Tenniel_34.png) Mock Turtle (http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/violent-criminals-stealing-jobs-in-glendal/u/original/4233241/20060509_immigration_2.jpg) (http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4b71aa8800000000003bf48f/ken-langone-flips-out-on-obama-accusing-him-of-long-lasting-destruction.jpg)
GOP "Establishment" : Billionaire Home Depot: Made his Billions off trade with China and Illegal Alien Labor for Home remodels
[ Chris Christe Funder/Backer]


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/home-depot-ken-langone-not-sorry-nazi
Billionaire Home Depot Founder Is Not Really Sorry For Nazi Comparison

It turns out Ken Langone is not actually that sorry for comparing the fight against income inequality to the tactics employed by Nazis in the 1930s.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: PeaceAndFreedom on November 27, 2015, 12:15:06 pm
^^^^^^^^^

  Yes I could vote for Rand but he is always running less than 5% in the polls.  I just don't see him rising.

  There are only 4 candidates that are usually above 10% at the present time---Trump, Carson, Cruz and Rubio. 

  Just saw a poll on Fox---Trump 25, Cruz 23, Carson 18, Rubio 13.   They said that Carson is slipping.

Rand is by far the best candidate of the bunch, but he over-compromised in his rhetoric to the point where much of the liberty base feels betrayed by him. Rand (like Ron before him) won't challenge the NWO and pro-war crowd on 9-11 and the more recent false flags. He has made no strong attempt to get Tea Party or cultural right support, leading to them not finding him as appealing as Cruz, Trump or Carson.

As a result, the MSM has not found it too difficult to keep Rand down under 5% in most polls. The elite still wants to bury Trump and Carson as well (they don't think either can be trusted to keep us at war 24/7 in the Mideast), so they've been hammering Carson heavy in the last month, and will work hard on dropping Trump's numbers in the following month.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 28, 2015, 08:50:14 am

... from @NYTimes ... begrudgingly:

Black Pastors Expected to Endorse Donald Trump

Donald J. Trump will take the next step in his religious outreach effort next week when he announces the endorsement of a group of 100 African-American pastors and religious leaders at his Manhattan headquarters.

The Republican presidential candidate has a private meeting with the group scheduled on Monday before they make their offer of support official, according to his campaign. The endorsement comes as Mr. Trump has faced criticism for stoking racial tension and has seen his support among evangelical Christians start to waver in polls as voters consider Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and Ben Carson.

"The group will gather at
Trump Towers at 1 p.m. on Monday."


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/25/black-pastors-expected-to-endorse-donald-trump/?_r=0
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 30, 2015, 10:16:24 pm
^^^^

... mixed reports about the meeting today.
Seems the 'delegation' are falling short of
a total endorsement ... but:


“I support Donald Trump and everybody knows that."


Black Pastor: ‘The Liberal Media’
Doesn’t Know The Real Trump


Dr. Darrell Scott, Pastor of New Spirit Revival Center in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, said the Monday meeting between black pastors and Donald Trump was a “meaningful dialogue… and we voiced concerns that were sensitive to the African-American community.”

Scott, speaking at Trump Tower in New York City said, “I didn’t have concerns [with Trump] because I was already convinced, but there were concerns that the liberal media has put out portraying Mr. Trump in a light that I know he’s not the type of person he was depicted to be. So what we were able to do today was allow to see his heart for themselves and to make up their own minds about him. And they find out that he’s not the person that the media has depicted him to be.”

Scott explained, “We had a very productive, constructive meeting. We made history today because we had had meaningful dialogue from Mr. Donald Trump and we voiced concerns that were sensitive to the African-American community. And we asked questions were answered and we were satisfied with the answers and we’re a unified front right here. We had a wonderful time, a wonderful dialogue, wonderful fellowship, wonderful interaction. It was a great day.”

√ MORE w/VIDEO:  http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/30/black-pastor-the-liberal-media-doesnt-know-the-real-trump-video/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on November 30, 2015, 11:54:03 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^

  I was watching ABC News tonight and they said some of the black pastors were supporting Trump.

  I saw the interview LIVE and a Black pastor said that most of the 100+ pastors were supporting Trump.

  There is a lot of difference between the words SOME and MOST.

  It is my desire that Trump and these pastors expose the pseudo pastors---Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for what they are---self serving race pimps.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 01, 2015, 06:20:18 am


... I read somewhere that if the Republican candidate
can hold Romney's voting block plus pick-up only
17% of the black vote in the swing States, they will win.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 01, 2015, 07:33:30 am
Trump is influencing the Black and Latino vote a lot more than the MSM is telling the saps that worship CNN and Fox.  If I were a person making $10 to $12 an hour I would be afraid that the illegals would take my job.  Now the Elites are trying to throw Chris Christie at their voters. Wrong answer. Christie is polling under 5% in most polls.  All the Elites want is anybody but Trump which will (in my opinion) give the election to Hillary and it will be business as usual---the Elites control their puppet and steal and PNAC the world to its death.   

  Back to the black pastors. One of the main things that came out of the meeting was the high rate of unemployment, especially with the young black people---over 50%.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 01, 2015, 08:14:00 am
^^^

... it is hard to say for sure, but 'right-hand-path' blacks
& Latins can see thru the BS from the 'left-hand-path' just
as easily as whites ... the lefty lunatic fringe has failed
them on every front, and they are not so afraid of
the blonde/blue-eyed Aryan as they once were ... IMO:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Look at how the lefties are picking up on this trend, calling
it a 'nightmarish' swing to the 'radical right extreme':



November 30, 2015 5:34 pm
We deride chances of Marine Le Pen
and Donald Trump at our peril

The rise of political extremists says something disturbing
about liberal democracy in the west

Gideon Rachman

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I have a nightmare vision for the year 2017: President Trump, President Le Pen, President Putin.

Like most nightmares, this one probably won’t come true. But the very fact that Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen are running strongly for the American and French presidencies says something disturbing about the health of liberal democracy in the west. In confusing and scary times, voters seem tempted to turn to “strong” nationalistic leaders — western versions of Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

In Washington recently, I found most mainstream political analysts dismissing the idea that Mr Trump could win the Republican nomination, let alone the presidency. This struck me as complacent. If Mr Trump were a normal candidate he would be regarded as favourite for the nomination. He is ahead in the crucial early states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

"So what is going on in western politics?
The overarching development is a loss
of faith in traditional political elites and
a search for radical alternatives."

(Ed:  And so forth and so on.)

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/e7b61eae-974d-11e5-9228-87e603d47bdc.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 01, 2015, 09:06:39 am
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/herman-cain-trump-rally-216259

  Another black leader for Trump----Herman Cain

Herman Cain rips into Bush as he reveals plans to speak at Trump rally

Donald Trump will be sharing the stage with another businessman-turned-political-figure at his rally in Georgia on Monday night — former presidential candidate Herman Cain.

Cain — a radio host who also was CEO of Godfather’s Pizza — ran for the 2012 Republican nomination before dropping out of the race in December 2011 as allegations of past sexual misconduct escalated (he denies the allegations). Cain announced his plans to speak at the evening rally on his website caintv.com, and he used the post as an opportunity to rip into Jeb Bush after the former Florida governor implied that people now leading in the polls could ultimately “flame out” like Cain.

The post titled “Big talk from Mr. 5.5 percent” starts out:

“Someone should tell Jeb Bush that I’ve accepted an invitation to speak at Donald Trump’s rally this coming Monday in Georgia. I accepted for a simple reason: He asked,” Cain writes. “But Gov. Bush seems weirdly interested these days in the connection – if only in his own mind – between what he thinks happened to me and what he thinks is going to happen to Trump.”


Cain then goes on to explain his past poll standings, why he eventually dropped out of the race, and why Bush's campaign is in need of a major rethink.

“If you want to say I had a ‘fall,’ go ahead, I guess. You can’t fall when you’ve never gotten any higher than the floor in the first place, and that’s the state of the Jeb Bush campaign,” Cain said. “A guy with his name, his money and the team behind him should be one of the top-tier contenders, and he should certainly not be letting Donald Trump wipe the floor with him if Trump is as unserious and unqualified as Bush would have you believe.”

Cain also offers some guidance for Bush, saying, "But if I were to give Jeb Bush a piece of advice – not that he probably thinks he needs any from me – it would be to focus on coming up with a rationale for a Jeb Bush presidency. To date, I haven’t heard one that’s got many people very excited. And to judge from the polls, 94.5 percent of Republican primary voters agree with me."
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 01, 2015, 09:10:21 am
^^^



"So what is going on in western politics?
The overarching development is a loss
of faith in traditional political elites and
a search for radical alternatives."

(Ed:  And so forth and so on.)

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/e7b61eae-974d-11e5-9228-87e603d47bdc.html

  TRANSLATION---people are pissed off. 

  Anyone with half the information we see here at Prison Planet Forum knows that THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WRONG OUT THERE---no matter what country you are from.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 01, 2015, 09:20:44 am
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/01/exclusive-breitbart-news-daily-donald-trump-blasts-obama-foreign-policy-climate-change/


  Audio interview at the link....

 

Exclusive — Breitbart News Daily: Donald Trump Blasts Obama on Foreign Policy, Climate Change

Businessman and GOP frontrunner Donald Trump joined Breitbart News to weigh in on several topics, from terrorism to climate change, with many other items, including Turkey and Russia, in between.

All Obama wants to talk about is “climate change,” Trump told host Stephen K. Bannon during an exclusive interview on Sirius XM’s Breitbart News Daily. Trump also called Obama’s Iran deal, “The worst deal ever made in the country, the most incompetent deal….”

The billionaire also pointed out the so-called deal has already been broken by Iran.

From energy, to China/U.S. relations and the current troubles between Turkey and Russia, Trump basically worked through a number of key issues, offering his quick, concise take on how he views the world and what he would do as President.

Trump cited his “firm” temperament as a key qualification for the presidency.
The full interview can be heard below:
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 01, 2015, 09:27:09 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CylaSwEZDsU

  youtube

FULL Speech: Donald Trump Holds MASSIVE Rally in Macon, GA w/ Herman Cain (11-30-15)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 01, 2015, 12:13:25 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/01/trump-card-new-report-points-to-dc-media-cover-up-of-911-nj-muslim-celebration/

Trump Card: New Report Points To DC Media Cover-Up of 9/11 NJ Muslim Celebration

Despite the corrupt DC Media’s dishonest and highly-coordinated campaign to shut him down, Donald Trump’s refusal to back up even a step has resulted in yet more proof of the media’s ongoing cover-up of the almost certain fact that some number of American Muslims celebrated the collapse of the World Trade Center. On top of legions of eyewitnesses and a contemporaneous report in no less than the Washington Post, another newspaper report has surfaced:



In the New York Post in September of 2011, Fred Siegel wrote,

Here in New York, it was easy to get angry listening to Egyptians, Palestinians and the Arabs of nearby Paterson, N.J., celebrate as they received word of the murderous attack in New York and Washington. But Mayor Giuliani (who has been tireless and magnificent in this crisis) rightly warned New Yorker-ers that is would be wrong to take their anger our on the city’s Arab and Muslim residents. Attacks on Arab-Americans in Paterson or elsewhere are utterly indefensible.

There was no retraction of the report in the Washington Post, and so far there does not appear to be any New York Post retraction of Siegel’s declarative statement of Muslim celebrations in New Jersey.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 01, 2015, 05:11:09 pm


... are the black Church leaders getting
strong-armed by 'black lives matter'?


WND EXCLUSIVE
BLACK PASTORS PRESSURED TO DENY TRUMP ENDORSEMENT?
If Hillary isn't elected, 'they won't be able to advance their big-government agenda'

EXCERPTS:

“Democrats and Black Lives Matter know that if they can’t get Hillary elected, they won’t be able to advance their big government agenda,” Peterson told WND. “They won’t be able to get away with things like they do under a liberal administration. Therefore, the Democratic Party is trying to embrace the Black Lives Matter movement to get more black votes. Black Lives Matter is also putting pressure on black churches and more mainstream organizations to back their anti-police agenda.”

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_940.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_940.jpg.html)
"I like the way he’s presenting himself," he confessed. "He seems like he's treating black Americans the same as whites and other races. Trump is not trying to appease or cater to any special groups. This is the right way to deal with people."

√ w/Jesse Lee Peterson: http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/black-pastors-pressured-to-deny-trump-endorsement/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 02, 2015, 06:34:49 am

... Trump was right about dancing crazy muslims:

Published on Dec 1, 2015
Sunday Sept. 16, 2001 CBS Report by Pablo Guzman on 9/11 Celebration in Jersey City

Jersey City 9/11 Celebration Report CBS

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auKMHkZJnQ&feature=youtu.be&t=59

@ the 6:00 minute mark
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpd8zjvEh3w
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 02, 2015, 07:20:35 am


  Jersey City is 6 miles from NYC.

  I am thinking that Trump has employees that commute from there and one of his employees told him about the celebrating going on there on 9-11 and beyond.  Just a hunch.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 02, 2015, 10:45:31 am
... Trump was right about dancing crazy muslims:

Published on Dec 1, 2015
Sunday Sept. 16, 2001 CBS Report by Pablo Guzman on 9/11 Celebration in Jersey City

Jersey City 9/11 Celebration Report CBS

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auKMHkZJnQ&feature=youtu.be&t=59

@ the 6:00 minute mark
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpd8zjvEh3w

  I just saw this.  My wife remembered that these jerks celebrated the collapse of the Twin Towers.

  Trump is right.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 02, 2015, 10:46:36 am

  Jersey City is 6 miles from NYC.

  I am thinking that Trump has employees that commute from there and one of his employees told him about the celebrating going on there on 9-11 and beyond.  Just a hunch.

There were many reports in the immediate aftermath that were never "re-reported" they all went in the black hole like the dancing Israelis and the moving vans with explosives on the bridges ,....

(http://www.mygen.com/images/Jersey_City_Mosques.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 02, 2015, 10:50:33 am
^^^^^^^^

  Interesting map.  Looks like the Muslims are taking over the area.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: donnay on December 02, 2015, 11:53:12 am
Great interview with Donald Trump today.  So far he has my vote.   :)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: egypt on December 02, 2015, 12:05:09 pm
I'd be so happy to see Trump as President and establish a Bureau of Cleanup to go around and cleanup and strip down all the other Bureaus.  Maybe Alex should be massively in charge, too  as a Cabinet Head or Vice President!

Then, generations need to be given a real education to open their minds.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: egypt on December 02, 2015, 12:24:51 pm

Wow -- the book "The America We Deserve" is $12.96 for hardcover.
http://www.amazon.com/The-America-Deserve-Donald-Trump/dp/1580631312

All of his books here
http://www.trump.com/publications/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 02, 2015, 01:47:18 pm
Quote
I know Jeff is trying to put the best possible spin on Donald Trump's claim that he saw on TV "thousands and thousands of Muslims" in New Jersey celebrating the attacks of September 11, 2001. But his boy stepped in it and he's going to have a hard time cleaning his shoe.

I mean if Trump has as great a memory as he claims to have then surely he can more precise than "thousands and thousands". Would that be 5,000? 10,000? Would it be enough to fill Yankee Stadium or the Meadowlands?

Now I certainly remember the Palestinians on the West Bank who cheered 9/11. Perhaps Trump is confusing Ramallah with Paterson.


 
 


It's one thing to say there were pockets of Muslims in this country celebrating 9/11, but it's quite another to claim it was "thousands and thousands." Former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani threw cold water on Trump's claims during an appearance on CNN earlier today:


"We did have some celebrating, that is true," Giuliani told CNN's Alisyn Camerota on CNN's "New Day." "We had pockets of celebration some in Queens, some in Brooklyn -- 10, 12, 30, 40" people.

Giuliani recounted hearing about a Muslim-owned candy store where some Muslims were cheering the attacks and were beaten up by children from a neighboring housing development.
 yes, there were some Muslims celebrating 9/11 and they ended up paying the price for it. Think about the raw emotion and anger which we felt in the days following 9/11. Nowhere would it have been more acute than in New York and New Jersey. If there were any large numbers of Muslims who publicly expressed delight with 9/11 do you think people in NY and NJ would have stood up for it for a New York minute? Hell no!!! There would have been a fight, a very big fight. And if there were "thousands and thousands of Muslims" publicly cheering 9/11 there would have thousands and thousands of very angry New Yorkers and New Jerseyans who would have confronted them. New Yorkers and New Jerseyans aren't known for being shy and retiring.

I harbor no illusions. There are Muslims in this country when Islamists attacks American soil and there are also Muslims in this country (whether by birth or by conversion) who would like to kill their fellow Americans whether through ISIS or other Islamic terrorist organizations. Since 9/11, we've seen the attacks in Fort Hood, Boston and Chattanooga not to mention the near attacks in Times Square and aboard Northwest Flight 253. Sooner or later, we will see more.

All of that notwithstanding, it is simply unhelpful when Donald Trump grossly misrepresents what actually happened in this country in the days following the attacks of September 11, 2001.

http://spectator.org/blog/64821/why-i-dont-believe-thousands-thousands-muslims-new-jersey-celebrated-911 (http://spectator.org/blog/64821/why-i-dont-believe-thousands-thousands-muslims-new-jersey-celebrated-911)

Just posting both sides, but it is worth to note: If there were any large numbers of Muslims who publicly expressed delight with 9/11 do you think people in NY and NJ would have stood up for it for a New York minute? Hell no!!! There would have been a fight, a very big fight. And if there were "thousands and thousands of Muslims" publicly cheering 9/11 there would have thousands and thousands of very angry New Yorkers and New Jerseyans who would have confronted them.   and many outside of those areas as well.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016/Now Mr. Jones understands!
Post by: iamc2 on December 02, 2015, 06:24:52 pm
 Today's interview with Presidential Candidate: Mr Donald Trump is Historical: and the reason why is that Mr. Trump is a Truth Seeker and he understands the New World Orders Satanic Plan!

 [if he did not understand, The NWO Plan; Then WHY? would he speak with Alex?]

...I found it interesting that it took little Jones to Wake up Pa-pa Jones into WHO? Trump really is!

...I have said this before; and I'll say it again [and Jones with Trump said it today 12-2-2015].

  THIS IS THE LAST CALL FOR THE USA!

...Mr. Trump will have my vote---and now that he has spoken with Alex: I believe he will get the VOTE from Truth Seekers--- 8)
Title: Donald Trump Booed by Pro-Israel Group After Telling Them He Can’t Be Bought
Post by: Sasha on December 03, 2015, 03:23:55 pm
Donald Trump Booed by Pro-Israel Group After Telling Them He Can’t Be Bought (https://theintercept.com/2015/12/03/donald-trump-booed-by-pro-israel-group-after-telling-them-he-cant-be-bought/)
Zaid Jilani - Dec. 3 2015 - The Intercept

Speaking to the Republican Jewish Coalition on Thursday, Donald Trump once again demonstrated how he is not your typical presidential candidate.

“You’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money,” Trump told the members of the Sheldon Adelson-funded hardline pro-Israel lobbying organization.

He went on to mock rival Jeb Bush for taking money from interest groups and then toeing their line. “That’s why you don’t want to give me money, okay, but that’s okay, you want to control your own politician. That’s fine, good,” he concluded.

And then, unlike the candidates who do want the coalition’s money, Trump broke with GOP orthodoxy, questioning Israel’s commitment to peace, calling for even treatment in Israeli-Palestinian deal-making, and refusing to call for Jerusalem to be Israel’s undivided capital — provoking a wave of boos from the audience.

continues...
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 04, 2015, 09:26:28 am
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/donald-trump-poll-cnn-orc-national/

CNN/ORC Poll: Trump alone at the top again

CNN)Donald Trump is once again alone at the top of the Republican field, according to the latest CNN/ORC Poll, with 36% of registered Republicans and Republican-leaning independents behind him, while his nearest competitor trails by 20 points.
Three candidates cluster behind Trump in the mid-teens, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 16%, former neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 14% and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 12%. All other candidates have the support of less than 5% of GOP voters in the race for the Republican Party's nomination for president.
Carson (down 8 points since October), former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (down 5 points to 3%) and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (down 4 points to 1%) have lost the most ground since the last CNN/ORC poll, conducted in mid-October.
Cruz (up 12 points) and Trump (up 9 points) are the greatest beneficiaries of those declines. Rubio is also up slightly, gaining 4 points -- an increase within the poll's margin of sampling error -- since the last CNN/ORC poll.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 06, 2015, 10:44:03 am
MAYBE I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH ALL YOU TRUMP SUPPORTERS!!!  REPEAT THE MAYBE

          Donald Trump Isn’t Ruling Out Independent Run

Quote
Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump would not rule out making a run for president as an independent despite signing a pledge over the summer saying he would support the eventual GOP nominee instead of running a third-party bid.
    “I’m going to have to see what happens. I will see what happens. I have to be treated fairly,” Trump said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” when asked about a new guerrilla effort by operatives within the Republican Party to derail Trump’s candidacy. “When I did this, I said I have to be treated fairly. If I’m treated fairly, I’m fine. All I want to do is [have] a level playing field."

Trump has previously cited "fairness" as a reason he would run a third-party bid. In September, when he signed the pledge, he said he gained nothing besides "assurance that I’ll be treated fairly.”

http://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-isn-t-ruling-independent-run-155018473.html (http://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-isn-t-ruling-independent-run-155018473.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: poncho on December 06, 2015, 12:39:27 pm
While I would love to have seen Rand as my choice, his campaign is all but dead.

Having said that, I have warmed up to Trump.  Currently he is my choice. 
I think he is real.  I was afraid for the longest time, that he wasn't.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 06, 2015, 12:44:09 pm
While I would love to have seen Rand as my choice, his campaign is all but dead.

Having said that, I have warmed up to Trump.  Currently he is my choice. 
I think he is real.  I was afraid for the longest time, that he wasn't.

I keep hoping Trump would have Rand as a VP choice.
Trump has a problem with being an egomaniac.  Maybe that's what it takes.
That scares people and me too.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on December 06, 2015, 01:40:27 pm
I keep hoping Trump would have Rand as a VP choice.
Trump has a problem with being an egomaniac.  Maybe that's what it takes.
That scares people and me too.


Yea that would be good but I think the Rand's handlers are not going to allow it, Rand I don't think he is his own man, funny I though he would but it just don't seem like it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: poncho on December 06, 2015, 02:44:04 pm
There seems to be too much dislike between Trump & Rand.

I hate that.  They would make a great team.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 06, 2015, 05:34:56 pm
Trump is for the rich otherwise he would have been assassinated by now.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 06, 2015, 09:17:51 pm
Problem with rand,  republican party owns him. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 07, 2015, 02:41:09 am
Now you see why we needed to elect a Constitutionist?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 07, 2015, 06:15:20 am


... Trump tweets after BHO's BIG address:

Frontrunner Donald Trump was characteristically matter-of-fact:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/06/heres-how-some-republican-presidential-candidates-reacted-to-obamas-oval-office-address/

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_942.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_942.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 07, 2015, 07:06:51 am
See Trump is just going to follow a Globalist script.

A Constitutionist won't.  They will take a hard line against globalists, hegelianists (false-flaggers), kakistocrats, and real jihadists.

These guys may try a United Kakistocrats Front but it is nothing a Constitutionist and Libertarian elected congress doing the will of the American people couldn't handle.

I really hate giving these Nefilim bastards any ideas but we as Americans should mentally prepare for this.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 07, 2015, 08:00:59 am
^^^

... why do you think DT is not for upholding the Constitution?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 07, 2015, 04:35:29 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-calls-for-total-and-complete-214105912.html

Donald Trump calls for ‘total and complete shutdown’ of Muslims entering U.S.

Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump called for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” until the country’s representatives can “figure out what is going on.”

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: poncho on December 07, 2015, 06:00:52 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-calls-for-total-and-complete-214105912.html

Donald Trump calls for ‘total and complete shutdown’ of Muslims entering U.S.

Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump called for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” until the country’s representatives can “figure out what is going on.”

Without a doubt, this is going to be the narrative for awhile.  How he is 'Racist'.
This will be the most serious attack on his presidential bid yet.

I predict... he will still be leading in a few weeks.  (This negative attention will probably pick him up a few more votes.)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 07, 2015, 08:00:46 pm


The democrats could learn something from
Trump about how fed up Americans are with
the crazy muslims ... they feel like it is way
beyond time to get tough and put a stop to
this pie-in-the-sky ISlam love-fest! Let's not
forget, most Americans have a bad taste in
their mouths (to say the least) since 911 for
muslims, and they feel like we have been
bending over backwards (under BHO) to
cater to them, give them every benefit of
the doubt. Their time is up and they like
hearing it from the Repub politicians!

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: egypt on December 08, 2015, 02:05:08 am

I agree with Donald Trump.  Everyone refers to al Quaeda's new name as ISIS.  Obama says ISIL all the time.  Seems like more demonstration of complete disconnect.




(http://s8.postimg.org/w793iwsp1/dtweet.png) (http://postimage.org/)
 (http://postimage.org/)

What Is ISIL? Why President Obama Won't Call The Islamic State 'ISIS'
By Michelle Mark @michelleamark [email protected] on December 06 2015 11:00 PM EST
http://www.ibtimes.com/what-isil-why-president-obama-wont-call-islamic-state-isis-2213476





Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 08, 2015, 04:41:50 am
^^^

... why do you think DT is not for upholding the Constitution?

It isn't that I don't think he would uphold the Constitution but billionaires don't get to be billionaires without exploiting people in some way shape or form.  He has money and the Nefilim run the banks. At least Ross Perot ran on his own party he believed in his platforms that much.

Being part of the Republic Party there would be a lot of undue Bilderberg/Globalist influence driving his decisions.

Constitutionist have a Globalist free guarantee so to speak.

John McAfee is running on the Cyber Party.  That's what free thinking CEOs should do.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 08, 2015, 06:32:18 am
... more hoopla about DT's call for temporary
freeze on allowing muslims entry to US. Here is
what some muslims are saying. They all sound
a bit crazy to me:


~~~~~~~~~~

AYA, a 22-year-old college graduate in Cairo who declined to give her full name for fear of alienating her family:

"I was born to Muslim parents and wore the veil at a young age. Now I am an atheist, but I can't tell anyone or take it off because they will probably kill me. My question to Donald Trump is: How do you know the Muslim you are banning is actually Muslim? Don't you think an extremist can fake denounce Islam and enter as a Christian or an atheist and still blow up your country? This is not how you fight terrorism; this is how you fan it."

~~~~~~~~~~

TAREQ, 22-year-old college student in Cairo

"I don't pray. I drink. I try to sleep around. All my friends do. I am about as Muslim as (Trump) is. Ban Muslims? Does he have any idea how many Muslims are just Muslims on paper?"

~~~~~~~~~~

YARA FARIS, 23-year-old journalist in the West Bank. She hopes to study international journalism at Columbia University:

"The U.S. will always be the best place to study, and I don't think the U.S. would deny Muslims entry just because they are Muslims."

~~~~~~~~~~

Yousef is traveling to her vacation home in Virginia this weekend with her children and grandchildren as she does every year.

"I spend a lot of money there three to four months out of the year. Muslim tourists and those that live there as students help the economy of the United States."

~~~~~~~~~~

SOMCHAI JEWANGMA, an officer with Thailand's Sheikhul Islam Office, which governs the country's Muslims:

"It's true that there are Muslim extremists, those who don't have good intentions for Islam. But there are 1.7 billion Muslim people in the world. If we were all bad, then the world would be uninhabitable."

~~~~~~~~~~

AZRA KHAN, president of the Canberra Islamic Center in Australia, said Trump's proposal is the wrong way to address last week's attack in San Bernardino, California, in which a Muslim couple killed 14 people:

"Clearly Donald Trump is trying to inflame the situation. Clearly this tragedy is not about Muslims."

"He could better improve the situation if he were to say, 'Let the U.S. take guns more seriously and ban them.' That one simple solution would be much more suitable and make the streets of America far safer."


√  CONTINUE: http://www.tbo.com/ap/national/muslims-decry-trumps-proposal-to-keep-them-out-of-us-ap_national9332a94e035f4e218960069fd0cc7e62
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 08, 2015, 07:07:56 am
Geniocrat
Quote
Being part of the Republic Party there would be a lot of undue Bilderberg/Globalist influence driving his decisions.

That's true. Democrat also, why I will not vote  for either of the 2.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: pac522 on December 08, 2015, 07:42:00 am
^^^

... why do you think DT is not for upholding the Constitution?

The Piped Piper is playing his tune.


Trump Says He Supports Reauthorizing Patriot Act, NSA Metadata Collection
 (http://"http://truthinmedia.com/trump-supports-reauthorizing-patriot-act-nsa-metadata-collection/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5rEJJV8RbU

2016 Republican presidential candidate and billionaire real estate mogul Donald Trump said that he supports reauthorizing the USA PATRIOT Act and bulk cell phone metadata collection by the National Security Agency in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt Show earlier this month.

In the above-embedded clip, Hewitt asks Trump, “On metadata collection, Ted Cruz is glad the NSA got out of it. Marco Rubio wants it back. What’s Donald Trump think?”

“Well, I tend to err on the side of security, I must tell you,” Trump replied, “and I’ve been there for longer than you would think. But, you know, when you have people that are beheading if you’re a Christian and frankly for lots of other reasons, when you have the world looking at us and would like to destroy us as quickly as possible, I err on the side of security, and so that’s the way it is, that’s the way I’ve been, and some people like that, frankly, and some people don’t like that.”

“And I’m not just saying that since Paris, I’m saying for quite some time. I assume when I pick up my telephone people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you want to know the truth. It’s pretty sad commentary, but I err on the side of security,” said Trump.

Hewitt then asked, “Alright, so you would be in favor of restoring the Patriot Act?”

“I think that would be fine. As far as I’m concerned, that would be fine,” Trump responded.

Newsweek points out that Donald Trump has held the same position since before the Paris terror attacks. He said this summer, “I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed.”

A below-embedded CBS46 Atlanta Ben Swann Reality Check report challenges the notion that the NSA has stopped spying on Americans’ cell phones and notes that “under the USA Freedom Act, NSA computers remain at the carriers’ and service providers’ switching offices [collecting metadata]. But the NSA computer analysts return to their NSA offices and from there they operate remotely the same computers they were operating directly in the Patriot Act days.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1gXZZ_qxjE
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Effie Trinket on December 08, 2015, 08:34:50 am

The Piped Piper is playing his tune.


Trump Says He Supports Reauthorizing Patriot Act, NSA Metadata Collection
 (http://"http://truthinmedia.com/trump-supports-reauthorizing-patriot-act-nsa-metadata-collection/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5rEJJV8RbU

2016 Republican presidential candidate and billionaire real estate mogul Donald Trump said that he supports reauthorizing the USA PATRIOT Act and bulk cell phone metadata collection by the National Security Agency in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt Show earlier this month.

In the above-embedded clip, Hewitt asks Trump, “On metadata collection, Ted Cruz is glad the NSA got out of it. Marco Rubio wants it back. What’s Donald Trump think?”

“Well, I tend to err on the side of security, I must tell you,” Trump replied, “and I’ve been there for longer than you would think. But, you know, when you have people that are beheading if you’re a Christian and frankly for lots of other reasons, when you have the world looking at us and would like to destroy us as quickly as possible, I err on the side of security, and so that’s the way it is, that’s the way I’ve been, and some people like that, frankly, and some people don’t like that.”

“And I’m not just saying that since Paris, I’m saying for quite some time. I assume when I pick up my telephone people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you want to know the truth. It’s pretty sad commentary, but I err on the side of security,” said Trump.

Hewitt then asked, “Alright, so you would be in favor of restoring the Patriot Act?”

“I think that would be fine. As far as I’m concerned, that would be fine,” Trump responded.

Newsweek points out that Donald Trump has held the same position since before the Paris terror attacks. He said this summer, “I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed.”

A below-embedded CBS46 Atlanta Ben Swann Reality Check report challenges the notion that the NSA has stopped spying on Americans’ cell phones and notes that “under the USA Freedom Act, NSA computers remain at the carriers’ and service providers’ switching offices [collecting metadata]. But the NSA computer analysts return to their NSA offices and from there they operate remotely the same computers they were operating directly in the Patriot Act days.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1gXZZ_qxjE
Yup and he will also support the NDAA and assassination of Americans on US soil.  Watch any future false flag that involves NWO created patsy domestic "terrorists", he will come out of the woodwork even more and would probably use armed drones on American soil.  I can guarantee you also that if he gets in, he will flip 180 degrees on the euphemism for geo-cybernetics called "climate change" and be exactly like Hillary or Soetoro.  There is NO SUCH THING as the President of the United States anymore.  Whoever is in that meaningless office is no different than if they were a 3d hologram reciting scripts and forced narratives by unelected oligarchy that make Trump look like the middle class.

THE ONLY REASON THEY HAVE BLAMED MUSLIMS ALL THESE YEARS FOR ALL THESE BANKING CARTEL/MILITARY INTELLIGENCE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX FALSE FLAGS IS TO KEEP YOU FROM REALIZING THAT THEIR REAL ENEMY IS ***EVERYONE THAT IS NOT THEM.***  BY SCAPEGOATING AND CREATING MASSIVE NARRATIVES ABOUT SO-CALLED JIHADS, AND SO-CALLED CALIPHATES, IT ALLOWS FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO FINALIZE THE ENTIRE GAMUT OF THE CYBERNETIC TECHNOCRATIC ***CONTROL AND PUNISHMENT*** INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL PUNISH ANYONE WHO OPPOSES AGENDA 21 MANDATES VIA MASSIVE UBIQUITOUS COMPUTING AND TOTAL SURVEILLANCE ENFORCED BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION.

THE AGENDA BEHIND SURVEILLANCE OF EVERYONE IS 2 FOLD:  IT IS TO BE ABLE TO PUNISH YOU FOR NON COMPLIANCE (I.E. MORE AUSTERITY, TORTURE) WITH TYRANNY, AND TO DETERMINE WHEN YOU NEED TO BE KILLED BASED ON YOUR PRE-CRIME THOUGHTS.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 08, 2015, 11:02:52 am


... Rosemary Jenks is [email protected] ... here:
https://www.numbersusa.com

Rosemary Jenks: Perfect Time To Hit
Pause Button On Immigration

by DAN RIEHL  8 Dec 2015  Washington, DC

The Director of Government Relations at NumbersUSA, Rosemary Jenks, J.D., says critics of Donald Trump’s recent proposal to temporarily stop all Muslim immigration into the United States are wrong to claim such a step would be prohibited by the Constitution.

“The Congress of the United States, under the Constitution, has complete and total control over who is allowed into this country as an immigrant. So, there’s no question that Congress has the authority to let in, or not let in any group of individuals,” Jenks said as a guest on Breitbart News daily with host Stephen K. Bannon. “Congress can  set any boundaries it wants,” she continued. “It can say we’re only going to let in Irish Catholics.”

“So, there’s no question about that.”

√ CONTINUE: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/08/rosemary-jenks-perfect-time-to-hit-pause-button-on-immigration/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 08, 2015, 11:05:34 am
Exactly Trump is showing his Globalist colors.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 08, 2015, 11:12:17 am
Exactly Trump is showing his Globalist colors.

Well if they are still are using the patriot act  and will use it whether its law or not ... What difference does it make?
He's not giving them anything and once POTUS he can change that tune ,

Just giving the benefit of the doubt
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 08, 2015, 11:40:55 am
Well if they are still are using the patriot act  and will use it whether its law or not ... What difference does it make?
He's not giving them anything and once POTUS he can change that tune ,

Just giving the benefit of the doubt

  Yes Tahoe,  you have this right.  It makes no difference.

  No matter who the President is, they are going to keep using the Patriot Act, the NSA, and all the other surveillance crap they have.

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on December 08, 2015, 12:17:57 pm
Trump says what most Americans wish they could say and will NOT: But they think it!

...America needs to look at folks, trying to enter our Nation; with suspicion [and 'vented']; if they Have a Jihad Attitude!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: egypt on December 08, 2015, 12:36:47 pm

I bet you could tell the difference.  Just lock them all up a while.  With their horrendous attitude they would start demanding to be released in order to rape, kill, pillage in the name of allah akbar or whatever it is...

NDAA, Patriot Act are powerful tools for whomever is in power...  Can we trust Trump to use them *for* America rather than against?  Maybe then get rid of them when all is taken care of.  I wish he would explain further.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 08, 2015, 12:42:18 pm
We need to see the Globalist plot to get America and the world into WW3.

Population reduction for the Nefilim.  Then Nefilim management of their 500,000 remaining to slave labor for them.

Too bad we can't scan for Nefilim bio-signatures yet.  Do they manipulate Globalist homo sapiens just by money or are there other dynamics at work ?

Humanity will never be truly free until we answer this basic question ?

 8)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: One Revelator on December 08, 2015, 02:01:03 pm
We need to see the Globalist plot to get America and the world into WW3.

Population reduction for the Nefilim.  Then Nefilim management of their 500,000 remaining to slave labor for them.

Too bad we can't scan for Nefilim bio-signatures yet.  Do they manipulate Globalist homo sapiens just by money or are there other dynamics at work ?

Humanity will never be truly free until we answer this basic question ?

 8)

That was already stated 144 years ago. The plan hasn't changed much.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Kcvl6p-p-aA/UII7K9_AiPI/AAAAAAAAEOU/F9t3E4UYVTw/s320/Albert_Pike_WWIII.jpg)

(http://kerakshrine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/shriner-international.jpg)

Al-Qaida/ISIS/ISIL need MOAR funding to get this show on the road!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 08, 2015, 07:10:37 pm


... death threats.

'KILL TRUMP': ENRAGED LEFT CALLS FOR ASSASSINATION
Critics demand death for GOP front-runner after Muslim remarks
DOUGLAS ERNST

Quote
Secret Service agents assigned to protect Trump since Nov. 11 may be working overtime in the wake of his comments on halting Muslim immigration into the U.S. A slew of death threats against the billionaire were tweeted after a campaign stop in South Carolina on Monday.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/kill-trump-enraged-left-calls-for-trumps-assassination/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 08, 2015, 08:04:32 pm

 ;D

DARTH TRUMP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_Jdts5rL0
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 08, 2015, 09:48:23 pm

... death threats.

I worry now that the MusselMen will be after him

Drudge:

(http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2015-12-01/77a12b30-9843-11e5-b94c-458a42cf7072_AP_195279020250.jpg)

TRUMP WORLD  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/along-with-trumps-rhetoric-the-stakes-for-2016-have-risen-dramatically/2015/12/08/43e64592-9dd8-11e5-a3c5-c77f2cc5a43c_story.html)

| - - - - -

Block Donald Trump from UK campaign gets huge support as storm rages over Muslim ban call
 
Donald Trump announces his presidential bid, New York, America 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12040805/Block-Donald-Trump-from-UK-campaign-gets-huge-support-as-storm-rages-over-Muslim-ban-call-live.html

White House declares billionaire candidate unfit for office of President as David Cameron intervenes after claim that police fear for their lives in "radicalised" parts of London

Downing Street makes rare US intervention to condemn Trump
Can Donald Trump actually win the US presidency?
Ban Donald Trump from UK online petition gets huge support
'Unhinged ... fascist ... absurd': how the world reacted
Ruth Sherlock: Trump symptom of new paranoia in US politics

Block Donald Trump from UK campaign gets huge support as storm rages over Muslim ban call

David Cameron leads the condemnation after the presidential candidate said parts of London were so radicalised "police in London are afraid for their own their lives" - while the Pentagon says his comments play into Islamic State's hatred of the West
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 09, 2015, 01:22:52 am
Is there  not a law for that kind of speech against any candidate?  Person should be arrested.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 09, 2015, 01:48:46 am
Is there  not a law for that kind of speech against any candidate?  Person should be arrested.
.

  If there isn't there should be.

  These type of comments can be traced back.  I don't know what the authorities would do. 

  If someone did that here we would delete the post immediately and then kick that person off the forum.

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 09, 2015, 05:57:24 am


... the far left radicals, hellbent on the self-destruction
of the European/Christian cultural underpinnings of
the USA, are pulling out all the stops ... US self flagellation
is reaching new heights of psychopathy:


The guy from the FAR LEFT Democrat Party
who wrote this tripe:

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/expert9n-1-web.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/expert9n-1-web.jpg.html)



Guest column: Donald Trump’s ban on Muslims
would take U.S. down wrong path

BY MAX PAUL FRIEDMAN  SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:39 PM


On the cover of the DAILY NEWS:
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/bramhall-world-trump-anti-muslim-plan.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/bramhall-world-trump-anti-muslim-plan.jpg.html)


There are discomfiting echoes in the increasing tempo of Trump's invective against Muslims, his insults toward Hispanics and a disabled reporter, and his encouragement of his fans to rough up an African-American heckler — not to mention his strained relationship to the truth. He has endorsed the dubious claims of the Center for Security Policy, an outfit that claims the Muslim Brotherhood is infiltrating America from within. Now he wants to ban all Muslims from entering the country. Before we call him a neo-Nazi, though, let's look at the record.

  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/guest-column-trump-ban-muslims-wrong-article-1.2459376
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 09, 2015, 07:22:42 am

  I read the article. He did not mention that all Trump wants to do is to put a moratorium on the importation of Muslims until the lawmakers and other officials can put in a system to more extensively vet these people. Trump is right.  He just didn't use the right words. After all, radicalized Muslims are here to disrupt our lives.

People need to chill out. Trump can't do anything until he is president.

In this PC World there is at least one person who is not afraid to speak his mind.

As for that cartoon, that was outrageous. If the figure was Obama instead of Trump they would have arrested that creep professor.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Al Bundy on December 09, 2015, 07:43:49 am
Unfortunately, Donald Trump everything do to not become US president. Conspiracy theory or Trump is "voice of American people" ??
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 09, 2015, 07:55:18 am
^^^


... he is definitely 'off-the-rail' as
far as conventional politics is concerned.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Al Bundy on December 09, 2015, 08:03:27 am
Now you see why we needed to elect a Constitutionist?

I think you cannot elect Constitutionists but you must vote for them.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 09, 2015, 08:09:08 am

  Yes Al Bundy. In my opinion there is a conspiracy against Trump. The NWO people want one of their neocon puppets in which at this time are Rubio, Bush or Clinton. Clinton is a warhawk and a closet neocon. In America we have what Is called a false left right paradigm which basically means that no matter what party the president is, he works for the powers that be. TPTB want one of these puppets in so they can control the country as we head towards 3rd world status. Trump IMO will not be a puppet for them. Neither will Cruz. That's the way I see it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 09, 2015, 08:18:33 am
^^^^^

.... PLUS 1!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 09, 2015, 08:19:47 am
^^^


... he is definitely 'off-the-rail' as
far as conventional politics is concerned.


And the Democrats and Republicans want to derail the Trump Train because they want to have business as usual as the country heads towards economic collapse. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Al Bundy on December 09, 2015, 08:20:19 am
I think you cannot elect Constitutionists but you must vote for them.

I hope you do not mind some "Balkan boy" gives its opinion on the elections in the United States.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 09, 2015, 08:34:09 am
I hope you do not mind some "Balkan boy" gives its opinion on the elections in the United States.

  Not at all. I am glad we have boots on the ground in various places in the world.

  You told me that Europe was experiencing great fall weather in a personal message and I then figured out why the migrants from the Middle East were still pouring into Europe---- because of the good weather.  That is info that is not reported unless we look at European weather. 

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Al Bundy on December 09, 2015, 08:39:14 am
  Not at all. I am glad we have boots on the ground in various places in the world.

  You told me that Europe was experiencing great fall weather in a personal message and I then figured out why the migrants from the Middle East were still pouring into Europe---- because of the good weather.  That is info that is not reported unless we look at European weather. 

 

Thanks. I hope that other Americans on the forum think same as you. ;D
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 09, 2015, 09:43:54 am
It is free Homo Sapiens vs. Homo Sapien traitors [ Globalists ] & their Homo Capensis masters.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 09, 2015, 10:34:11 am
Thanks. I hope that other Americans on the forum think same as you. ;D

I do and I'm sure most if not all are.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 09, 2015, 11:48:40 am
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-calls-for-total-and-complete-214105912.html

Donald Trump calls for ‘total and complete shutdown’ of Muslims entering U.S.

Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump called for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” until the country’s representatives can “figure out what is going on.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/flashback-jimmy-carter-banned-iranians-from-us-deported-iranian-students-during-hostage-crisis/
  How soon they forget.....


FLASHBACK: Jimmy Carter Banned Iranians from US, Deported Iranian Students During Hostage Crisis




The liberal media and Republican party elites erupted today after Donald Trump announced his plan to ban Muslim immigrants from the US until the government can assure it is safe to do so.

But Democrat Jimmy Carter did the same thing, and much more during the Iranian hostage crisis.

During the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter issued a number of orders to put pressure on Iran. Among these, Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.

Here’s Jimmy “Hitler” Carter saying it back in 1980.

Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.

Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all. It may even be “who we are”. Either that or Carter was a racist monster just like Trump.

Meanwhile here’s how the Iranian students in the US were treated.

Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 09, 2015, 12:09:06 pm
I think you cannot elect Constitutionists but you must vote for them.

True dat !

In my mind America could have been set right if Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party was elected back in 2008.  Relative to me we are skewed in a globalist timeline instead of being in the correct CP timeline.

I get my tenses wrong at times.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 09, 2015, 12:23:19 pm
Borders, language and culture.  Each nation must fight to preserve these or they will lose their cultural identity.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 09, 2015, 07:11:23 pm


√  MUST WATCH:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3f-wtNrbpI

Trump Great in Dallas but Young Mother Before Him
Should Frighten the #GOPSmartSet

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_944.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_944.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 10, 2015, 11:14:23 am
  True.  (I think our dogs are on the data-bases.   Sarcasm)

Their database is exclusively for Americans, first worlders, and known "terrorists"... in committee hearings the FBI "director" stated they cannot vet individuals who are not in their database... that would be about 90% of the world's population including the vast majority of the Muslim world.

Oldyoti

"An excellent man, like precious metal, is
in every way invariable; A villain, like the
beams of a balance, is always varying,
upwards and downwards."

~John Locke
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: poncho on December 10, 2015, 01:42:02 pm
Without a doubt, this is going to be the narrative for awhile.  How he is 'Racist'.
This will be the most serious attack on his presidential bid yet.

I predict... he will still be leading in a few weeks.  (This negative attention will probably pick him up a few more votes.)

I was wrong about how they label him a racist.  They compared him to Hitler.  (It shows how little people know about the holocaust.  It's not even in the same Galaxy; What happened in the 40's was human suffering beyond comprehension.)

I was right about the attacks.  I was also right about the Rebound!  He is way up in the polls.

(It's getting easy to predict things these days...) 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on December 10, 2015, 04:26:21 pm
 Mr. Stone, on Alex's show today [12-10-15]; said a lot about Mr. Trump---and most was Good---even Alex agreed with Mr. Stone!

...Now: Truth Seekers: ya have a man willing to give his all to help us---?

...if ya miss the point of Mr. Trump making a STAND for We The People....

...well my friends ya are missing the point of: "LAST CALL!"

...VOTE TRUMP---2016!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 10, 2015, 05:37:23 pm
Trump is nothing more than Hope & Change 2.0; if he were serious there would be assassination attempts already.

Hold out for a CP candidate.
Title: Trump Takes Nation By Storm: More Americans Agree With Muslim Ban Than Reject It
Post by: Letsbereal on December 10, 2015, 08:35:17 pm
Trump Takes Nation By Storm: More Americans Agree With Muslim Ban Than Reject It
10 December 2015
, by Mike Krieger (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-10/trump-takes-nation-storm-more-americans-agree-muslim-ban-reject-it
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 11, 2015, 08:22:47 am
MAYBE I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH ALL YOU TRUMP SUPPORTERS!!!  REPEAT THE MAYBE

          Donald Trump Isn’t Ruling Out Independent Run

http://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-isn-t-ruling-independent-run-155018473.html (http://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-isn-t-ruling-independent-run-155018473.html)


Quote
68% of Trump supporters say they’d stick with him if he ran as an independent

I can only hope.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/08/poll-68-of-trump-supporters-say-theyd-stick-with-him-if-he-ran-as-an-independent/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/08/poll-68-of-trump-supporters-say-theyd-stick-with-him-if-he-ran-as-an-independent/)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 11, 2015, 09:59:09 am
Didn't Trump sign a pledge a while back ?

Hmmmmm.....

No mind games with any Constitution Party candidates.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 11, 2015, 11:28:04 am
Didn't Trump sign a pledge a while back ?

Hmmmmm.....

No mind games with any Constitution Party candidates.

Trump won't go independent... instead he will split the party into Republicans and RINO-Neo-Cons... sink or swim you Trotsky-ite scum.

Oldyoti

"A well-instructed people alone can
be permanently a free people."

~James Madison
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 11, 2015, 12:18:11 pm
The Constitution Party is going to have an easy time beating these corporatist shills..... If only middle class America had the machismo they ecpect in their action heros.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 11, 2015, 04:52:27 pm
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/new-gop-poll-shows-trump-top-carson-collapsing/nphL8/


  Trump rises to 43% of GOP voters in Georgia

The new results show that 43 percent of GOP voters support Trump with Ted Cruz in a distant second place with 16 percent. Marco Rubio comes in third with 11 percent.
 
Carson, who was at 18 percent in September, now is at 7 percent. Jeb Bush stands at 5 percent support.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 11, 2015, 04:56:06 pm
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262926-poll-most-gop-voters-see-trump-winning-nomination

Poll: 70% of GOP voters see Trump winning nomination


Seventy percent of Republican voters believe Donald Trump will be the GOP presidential nominee in 2016, according to a new poll from the conservative-leaning Rasmussen Reports.

Approximately 31 percent say Trump is “very likely” to win the GOP nod, while just 21 percent say he is “unlikely” to be the party's nominee. Ten percent say Trump is “not at all likely" to be the nominee.
Those who support Trump's controversial call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the U.S. are even more likely to think he'll be the nominee.

About 73 percent who agree say the outspoken businessman will win the GOP nod, with 39 percent saying it is “very likely.”

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 11, 2015, 05:02:22 pm
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ben-carson-rnc-washington-post-216674

  Say what you will about Dr Carson but at least he is a man of principles.  He's basically telling Karl Rove and the rest of thee Establishment bastards to go to hell.




Ben Carson blasts RNC, threatens to leave Republican Party


'I will not sit by and watch a theft,' he says.

Ben Carson on Friday blasted the Republican National Committee following a Washington Post report that nearly two-dozen establishment party figures were prepping for a potential brokered convention as Donald Trump continues to lead most polls.

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus held a dinner in Washington on Monday, and, according to five people who spoke with the Post, the possibility of Trump heading into the Cleveland convention with a substantial number of delegates was a topic of discussion. Some attendees suggested the establishment lay the groundwork for a floor fight that could lead the party’s mainstream wing to unite behind an alternative. Carson rejected this approach.

“If the leaders of the Republican Party want to destroy the party, they should continue to hold meetings like the one described in the Washington Post this morning,” Carson said in a statement released by his campaign.

Carson said he prays the Post’s report is incorrect and threatened to leave the GOP. “If it is correct, every voter who is standing for change must know they are being betrayed. I won’t stand for it,” said Carson, who added that if the plot is accurate, “I assure you, Donald Trump won’t be the only one leaving the party.”

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 11, 2015, 05:28:43 pm
Carson should make a Constitution Party run if nominated.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 11, 2015, 05:32:59 pm
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262926-poll-most-gop-voters-see-trump-winning-nomination

Poll: 70% of GOP voters see Trump winning nomination


Seventy percent of Republican voters believe Donald Trump will be the GOP presidential nominee in 2016, according to a new poll from the conservative-leaning Rasmussen Reports.

Approximately 31 percent say Trump is “very likely” to win the GOP nod, while just 21 percent say he is “unlikely” to be the party's nominee. Ten percent say Trump is “not at all likely" to be the nominee.
Those who support Trump's controversial call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the U.S. are even more likely to think he'll be the nominee.

About 73 percent who agree say the outspoken businessman will win the GOP nod, with 39 percent saying it is “very likely.”

The Globalist "establishment" is working hard to break this up at the convention ...

Seems they will keep pushing Rubio and Cruz till the very end and make it so trump doesn't get the nom in the first ballot ...
Then throw the nom to an establishment globalist lackey .

Then Trump will have to run indie and bust up the election and be labeled a spoiler and possibly throwing the election to the great Witch...  Anyone saying slaying the great dragon would be easy?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 11, 2015, 05:39:01 pm
All this controversy is just Globalist theater and a Nefilim psy-op.

Support a Constitutionist.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 11, 2015, 05:48:57 pm

The Globalist "establishment" is working hard to break this up at the convention ...

Seems they will keep pushing Rubio and Cruz till the very end and make it so trump doesn't get the nom in the first ballot ...
Then throw the nom to an establishment globalist lackey .

Then Trump will have to run indie and bust up the election and be labeled a spoiler and possibly throwing the election to the great Witch...  Anyone saying slaying the great dragon would be easy?


  I think he will have the votes before the convention.  If Rove and the rest of the rat bastards go for a brokered convention, the Trump crowd will bolt.  Then the witch wins.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 11, 2015, 07:34:05 pm
in a related move:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ben-carson-rnc-washington-post-216674
“I assure you Donald Trump won’t be the only one leaving the party," Ben Carson said. | AP
Ben Carson blasts RNC, threatens to leave Republican Party
'I will not sit by and watch a theft,' he says.
By Nolan D. McCaskill and Kyle Cheney
12/11/15 09:53 AM EST
12/11/15 06:09 PM EST


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ben-carson-rnc-washington-post-216674#ixzz3u4BmMfJ4
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 11, 2015, 10:07:20 pm
http://patriotupdate.com/finally-france-raids-mosques-what-they-found-inside-proves-trump-is-right/

FINALLY! FRANCE RAIDS MOSQUES… WHAT THEY FOUND INSIDE PROVES TRUMP IS RIGHT!

I hear the French have now raided in excess of 32 mosques in France and what they have found is literally chilling. Tons of guns, ammo and explosives are being found. ISIS literature and propaganda is everywhere. Many in France are now calling for a full moratorium on Syrian and Islamic refugees until they can find a way to really vet them. Trump is being proven right massively here. And yet, both the left and right of American leadership is calling for his head because he said Muslim immigration has to be halted until we can put in place a system that will check them out and track them. He was called Hitler for it. Britain railed against him. France spoke out against him as well, even though they are calling for the same thing. These Islamists are hiding weaponry in their mosques and madrassas. They are planning war against all infidels and France is at least taking some of them out. Trump would do the same for America and more.

From The Political Insider:

The deadly Islamic terrorist attack in Paris, France killed more than 130 people. Unlike America after an attack, France started immediately raiding Islamic mosques to see what they could find. After all, far too many people in the Muslim community have not been helpful with bringing forth information to authorities.
And while those French investigators have been called racists, a Langy-sur-Marne based mosque was raided this week anyway… And they found a large collection of 7.62 Kalashnikov ammo along with boxes of Islamic State (ISIS) propaganda videos.
Authorities also raided one of the mosque’s leader’s homes, and found a revolver hidden near jihadist documents.
Police also found recordings of religious chants “glorifying the martyrs of jihad linked to the terrorist organization Jabhat al-Nusra”, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda, the prefecture added.
The recordings were found among a wealth of teaching material for young people in an undeclared madrassa, or religious school. Police removed a hard disk and 10 computers.

“No request was made to open a private school,” the state prefecture said in its statement.
Mohammed Ramdane, president of the local Muslim association in Lagny, had criticised the closure of the prayer hall at the time, saying: “Nothing has been found in the mosque. Nothing is hidden, we don’t hide anything.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 11, 2015, 10:38:44 pm

^^^^

... mosques and the pseudo-religious institutions are simply
COVER for the blood-thirsty jihadis ... end of story. The muslims
are here (in the West) for one reason ...


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Remember this disgusting swine? The billionaire whose offer
of millions to NY was rejected by then-New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani after 911? Not surprisingly he 'disapproves' of
Trump's plan on muslim migration ... and tweeted about it:

Quote
Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal called the controversial Republican frontrunner
a “disgrace” to America and urged him to immediately leave the race.

“Withdraw from the U.S presidential race as you will never win,” he tweeted.

[email protected] You are a disgrace not only to the GOP but to all America.
Withdraw from the U.S presidential race as you will never win.


— الوليد بن طلال (@Alwaleed_Talal) December 11, 2015

... and the Donald tweeted back:

Quote
Donald Trump responded:

Dopey Prince @Alwaleed_Talal wants to control our U.S. politicians with
daddy’s money. Can’t do it when I get elected. #Trump2016

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 12, 2015

√ http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/11/billionaire-saudi-prince-sends-very-clear-message-to-donald-trump/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

... it is time to DIVEST in the human disaster we call
the 'muslim/arabic world' ... it will take some time,
but it is the only sane course IMO. We don't really
need their FILTHY oil anymore! What else is there
to interest us?
Anybody?
Anybody?

Get the hell outa there, close our borders ... I would
wager that they would degrade swiftly into a 13th
Century mindset and ...

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 12, 2015, 10:48:14 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRBo-HxNDmk

  Youtube video.....

Luntz Explains Why Trump Has Plenty of Staying Power
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 12, 2015, 11:38:39 am

... must read!

What is Donald Trump doing to media reality?
Dec 11  by Jon Rappoport

What is Donald Trump doing to media reality?

Quote
He’s already trekked into no-go zones. For example, he’s said that of course vaccines can cause autism. What happens, for example, if tomorrow he suddenly changes his current message on ISIS (bomb them, censor them online) and says of course the US government created ISIS and now the Obama administration is patting itself on the back for stepping up military action against its own partner? What happens if he starts pounding on that tune?

Wild card, joker in the deck, loose cannon, cowboy don’t even begin to describe what Trump is becoming. His supporters are also celebrating a revolt against political correctness, and Trump is their man. Carefully assess what you say before you say it? Are you kidding? In this sense as well, the media have created their own problem, acting as shills and cheerleaders for correct language—and now that op is coming back to haunt them.

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/12/11/what-is-donald-trump-doing-to-media-reality/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 13, 2015, 08:28:10 am


  Source----Jack Tapper Show----CNN----7am MST----Sunday, Dec 13, 2015

  About 5 times Tapper asked Trump about the Muslim ban. Trump said that it was a temporary ban until the lawmakers figure out how to better vet the Muslims entering the country.

  Tapper kept talking about the ban.  He purposely did not acknowledge Trump's idea of the temporary ban. Tapper kept talking about the ban as if Trump wanted a permanent ban. 

  Tapper is the biggest pile of dog poop.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 13, 2015, 08:54:13 am
^^^^ One of their(TPTwannaB) heros Jimmy Carter banned Iranians during hostage situation, oh but that was ok?   http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield (http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield)
Wasn't the Japs rounded up after Pearl Harbor? 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 13, 2015, 09:38:55 am
^^^^ One of their(TPTwannaB) heros Jimmy Carter banned Iranians during hostage situation, oh but that was ok?   http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield (http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield)
Wasn't the Japs rounded up after Pearl Harbor?

  Because of political correctness, they could not round up all the Muslims.  There are an estimated 5 to 8 million Muslims in the US.

  The US was fortunate in WW2 in that they rounded up the Japanese and not some other more militant group of people.  They were submissive and cooperated with the guards.  They are some of the finest people I have met in my lifetime.  Most of them came out better after they were released from the camps.  There are many doctors in California that were in the camps as kids.  As far as I know, very few escaped the camps. 

  I have some great Japanese friends in Phoenix AZ.  They were given a piece of land and they grew zucchini for many years.  They sold the land for millions and the developers made millions building houses on that land.

  In 1988 President Reagan signed an executive order which gave all living Japanese that were in the camps $20,000.

  Back to the Muslims---if rounded up, they would be horrible campers---complaining about the food, asking for the government to build them mosques, etc.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 14, 2015, 09:43:13 am
  Because of political correctness, they could not round up all the Muslims.  There are an estimated 5 to 8 million Muslims in the US.

  The US was fortunate in WW2 in that they rounded up the Japanese and not some other more militant group of people.  They were submissive and cooperated with the guards.  They are some of the finest people I have met in my lifetime.  Most of them came out better after they were released from the camps.  There are many doctors in California that were in the camps as kids.  As far as I know, very few escaped the camps. 

  I have some great Japanese friends in Phoenix AZ.  They were given a piece of land and they grew zucchini for many years.  They sold the land for millions and the developers made millions building houses on that land.

  In 1988 President Reagan signed an executive order which gave all living Japanese that were in the camps $20,000.

  Back to the Muslims---if rounded up, they would be horrible campers---complaining about the food, asking for the government to build them mosques, etc.

The difference here is pretty obvious, the Japanese were all rounded up even those who were American for several generations... along with the tens of thousands who had come here before the war to escape political oppression in Japan.

The Muslims coming here now are not the oppressed... less than 1 out of 100 are either the oppressed Christian or Shiite... the lion's share of these "immigrants" are the Sunni oppressors themselves...

JTCoyoté

"It could probably be shown by facts and
figures that there is no distinctly native
American criminal class except Congress."

~Mark Twain
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 14, 2015, 12:47:30 pm
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/poll-trump-new-high-216741




Trump hits a new high in national poll

The billionaire businessman surges to 41 percent after releasing proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S.


  TRUMP  41%

  CRUZ  14%

  RUBIO  10%

  CARSON  9%

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 14, 2015, 04:30:27 pm
Gotta love Globo-vision.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on December 14, 2015, 05:22:22 pm
Trump will NOT back down from the DC insiders! and he does, Plan on Winning!  ;)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on December 17, 2015, 02:37:13 pm
Trump is unstoppable at this point---and the Power Elites understand it is their time to fall...because Trump Tripped them up!  8)

..I watched the Debate: and Trump was more Presidential than the rest... ;)

                                                        ...VOTE TRUMP...

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 17, 2015, 05:40:07 pm
Trump is just following the Globalist script like Obama did.  Hope and Change 2.0 remember he has no political attempts in NYS like Tom Golisano has.

If he starts his own political party and refuses to take orders from Bilderberg then we will see him as credible.

Not buying it.

Right person at the right time ?  This is a classic Globalist psy-op.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 17, 2015, 08:22:58 pm


... Trump has been signaling to expect a brand new world order
if he is elected ... and that will include a sane foreign policy
towards Russia ...


Putin calls Trump 'outstanding, talented'

Moscow (AFP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday described US Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump as "talented" and "outstanding," welcoming his stance on Russia.

"He is a very outstanding man, unquestionably talented," Putin told journalists after his annual press conference in Moscow.

"It's not up to us to judge his virtue, that is up to US voters, but he is the absolute leader of the presidential race," Putin added.

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-calls-trump-outstanding-talented-man-agencies-005747627.html

~~~~~~~

... and after DT read the above story he replied:

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_948.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/screenshot_948.jpg.html)

... can you imagine a world where we and Russia are staunch allies ...
and the far left socialists in Europe are left wondering?


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 17, 2015, 09:46:47 pm
Quote
Trump has been signaling to expect a brand new world order

Some how that phrase rings the alarms,  His make America great again  is classic,  any talk of new world order no matter how it is said tells me watch out same ol same ol.

And who the hell cares what putin thinks. another controled puppet from other side of the world.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 17, 2015, 10:05:12 pm
quote JH:
"
Trump has been signaling to expect a brand new world order ...


~~~


That was just my phrase, decemberfellow ... I was trying to be
facetious ... a 'new' new world order, in which old allies from
the WWII days find a way to 'defeat terroism' and 'restore world
peace' as Trump says. The OBAMANISTA worldview sees America
aligned with islamic nutjob countries (SUADI, Turkey) and Socialist
'one worlder' far left anti-Christ countries (lot of EU / Ukraine, etc)
and enemies of the world's LARGEST country (and possibly strongest)
and a historically SOLID caucasian/Christian centered society. Russia
is the NATURAL choice for an American ally ... the time has come.
Just sayin'.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on December 18, 2015, 05:48:35 am
Trump is the Real Deal...and those who miss this point may be Dooming America!

Vote Trump/or/ America stays the course of Self Destruction!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 18, 2015, 06:02:15 am
Quote
That was just my phrase, decemberfellow
 

Got that Jackson thanks for clarifying. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 18, 2015, 11:00:05 am
We want more proof.... Have Alex get Trump on and ask him about Bilderberg ties ?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 20, 2015, 07:35:49 am


... and it's not just the traditionally FAR LEFT-WING ZEALOTS
of the US Media machine that are pounding Trump ... (and
we citizens applauding his efforts) ... but it's the so-called
right-wing as well ... just listen to these attacks on @FOXNEWS:


FNC’s Shep Smith: Trump ‘Representing the Worst,
Darkest Part of All That Is America’

by JEFF POOR   8 Dec 2015

Tuesday on his Fox News Channel program “Shepard Smith Reporting,” host Shepard Smith lamented Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump’s policy proposals and rhetoric regarding how he would handle the threat of Islamic-inspired terrorism aimed at the United States.

In a segment with The Wall Street Journal’s John Bussey, Smith decried Trump and proclaimed he was representing the worst of America.

“Somebody needs to come up and remind him what this nation is and what we’re about and how we dream and the way we were founded and what our constitution is. He’s not representing any of that. He’s representing the worst, darkest part of all that is America.”

√ w/VIDEO: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/08/fncs-shep-smith-trump-representing-the-worst-darkest-part-of-all-that-is-america/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 20, 2015, 08:21:46 am
^^^
Quote
“Somebody needs to come up and remind him what this nation is and what we’re about and how we dream and the way we were founded and what our constitution is. He’s not representing any of that. He’s representing the worst, darkest part of all that is America.”
Someone should of said to Shepard Smith "Yeah that sounds like Obama alright"

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 20, 2015, 09:33:48 am

... and it's not just the traditionally FAR LEFT-WING ZEALOTS
of the US Media machine that are pounding Trump ... (and
we citizens applauding his efforts) ... but it's the so-called
right-wing as well ... just listen to these attacks on @FOXNEWS:


FNC’s Shep Smith: Trump ‘Representing the Worst,
Darkest Part of All That Is America’

by JEFF POOR   8 Dec 2015

Tuesday on his Fox News Channel program “Shepard Smith Reporting,” host Shepard Smith lamented Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump’s policy proposals and rhetoric regarding how he would handle the threat of Islamic-inspired terrorism aimed at the United States.

In a segment with The Wall Street Journal’s John Bussey, Smith decried Trump and proclaimed he was representing the worst of America.

“Somebody needs to come up and remind him what this nation is and what we’re about and how we dream and the way we were founded and what our constitution is. He’s not representing any of that. He’s representing the worst, darkest part of all that is America.”

√ w/VIDEO: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/08/fncs-shep-smith-trump-representing-the-worst-darkest-part-of-all-that-is-america/

  Fox's role in this election is to try to get a RINO elected which would be Rubio or Bush or Christie.

  FOX NEWS----We report and we decide.

  RINO/Neocon Karl Rove is a Fox News contributor so you know that FOX is the NEOCON/RINO Network.

 

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 20, 2015, 09:36:17 am
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

Trump Tweet


Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  7h7 hours ago

Hillary Clinton lied when she said that "ISIS is using video of Donald Trump as a recruiting tool." This was fact checked by @FoxNews: FALSE
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 21, 2015, 10:44:03 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/us/politics/president-obama-accuses-donald-trump-of-exploiting-working-class-fears.html?_r=0

  This is the main headline at Drudge this morning----- 

             OBAMA PLAYS RACE CARD ON TRUMP!


Obama Accuses Trump of Exploiting Working-Class Fears

President Obama said in a radio interview airing on Monday that Donald J. Trump, a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, is exploiting the resentment and anxieties of working-class men to boost his campaign. Mr. Obama also argued that some of the scorn directed at him personally stems from the fact that he is the first African-American to hold the White House.

Demographic changes and economic stresses, including “flatlining” wages and incomes, have meant that “particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck,” Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.

“You combine those things, and it means that there is going to be potential anger, frustration, fear — some of it justified, but just misdirected,” the president added. “I think somebody like Mr. Trump is taking advantage of that. That’s what he’s exploiting during the course of his campaign.”

The comments were Mr. Obama’s most pointed response to Mr. Trump since the Republican candidate suggested that Muslims be barred from entering the United States after the mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif. The attack was carried out by a couple who apparently were radicalized Muslims, one of whom had entered the United States on a fiancée visa.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 21, 2015, 10:57:01 am
http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/top-conservative-trump-is-last-hope-for-america/

PHYLLIS SCHLAFLY: TRUMP IS 'LAST HOPE FOR AMERICA'


Phyllis Schlafly, an icon of the conservative movement who has been active for half a century, is warning the nation: Donald Trump is the last hope for America.

Schlafly unloaded on Republicans in Congress for passing the $1.1 trillion omnibus bill last week, a move she called a “betrayal.”

“This is a betrayal of the grassroots and of the Republican Party,” Schlafly said in an exclusive interview with WND. “We thought we were electing a different crowd to stand up for America, and they didn’t. We’re extremely outraged by what Congress has done. Nancy Pelosi couldn’t have engineered it any better. I think the people are going to react by electing Donald Trump.”


Trump put out a statement Friday to ABC News saying, “If anyone needs more evidence of why the American people are suffering at the hands of their own government, look no further than the budget deal announced by Speaker Ryan. In order to avoid a government shutdown, a cowardly threat from an incompetent president, the elected Republicans in Congress threw in the towel and showed absolutely no budget discipline.”


Trump continued, “Congress cannot seem to help itself in bending to every whim of special interests. How can they face their constituents when they continue to burden our children and grandchildren with debts they will never be able to repay? Our government is failing us, so we must do something about it. Who knows how bad things will be when the next administration comes in and has to pick up the pieces?”

Schlafly applauded the GOP front-runner’s fighting spirit.

“It sounds like Donald Trump is the only one who has any fight in him,” she said. “He will fight for the issues that we really care about and are very hot at the present time, such as the immigration issue. I don’t see anyone else who’s eager to fight.”


The Republican-controlled Congress just sold America down in river in the “worst kind of betrayal,” Schlafly told WND.

“It’s the worst kind of a betrayal because we thought we elected a bunch of good guys who would shape up the party,” she said. “We had a lot of fancy promises that the Republicans were going to shape up and change course. And they disappointed us. Betrayal is an appropriate word to describe it.”

WND asked Schlafly if she believes Donald Trump is the last hope for America.

“He does look like he’s the last hope [for America],” Schlafly said. “We don’t hear anybody saying what he’s saying. In fact, most of the people who ought to be lining up with him are attacking him. They’re probably jealous of the amount of press coverage he gets. But the reason he gets so much press coverage is the grassroots are fed up with people who are running things, and they do want a change. They do want people to stand up for America. It really resonates when he says he wants to ‘Make America Great Again.’”

Schlafly said it’s not only Republicans who feel betrayed, but Democrats, too.

“They are betrayed,” she said. “There’s no doubt about it. The working man and woman have been betrayed by both parties. They’re ready for a change … anything they think would be better.”


The conservative superstar also blasted leaders of both parties who advocate lax immigration policies while American workers continue to struggle in a tepid economy.

“The rich guys are putting the money in. They want to bring in the low-wage people. That’s the way they think they’ll make money,” she said. “But that’s not the way America will prosper. America was built because we had a great growing and prosperous middle class. We need to rebuild that again. I’m willing to give a new try to somebody else.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 21, 2015, 11:34:19 am
The more flack they throw at Trump , The more I think he's real and the one to go for ...
As a contrarian, I love to see the system being shook up . Hopefully for the better .


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/119204721363156282/
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/46/94/4246946f85203d652f802d9d0474112c.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 21, 2015, 11:48:37 am
The more flack they throw at Trump , The more I think he's real and the one to go for ...
As a contrarian, I love to see the system being shook up . Hopefully for the better .


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/119204721363156282/
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/46/94/4246946f85203d652f802d9d0474112c.jpg)

  You are right Tahoe.  Now Obama and HilLIARy are throwing crap at him and it will backfire on them.  Trump will REALLY START ATTACKING THEIR INEPT FOREIGN POLICY DECISIONS.  I still believe that we would not even be starting to fight ISIS now if it wasn't for Putin putting Russia in the fight.  Obama and HilLIARy send a few special forces over there to Syria AND ALL THEY WANT IS FAVORABLE NEWS TOWARDS THEM.  THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENS OVER THERE.  PUTIN WANTS ISIS SNUFFED OUT.

  Trump will really start exposing them---Benghazi, the poor bombing of ISIS, etc.  The Obama/Clinton ineptness has caused a lot of the migration crisis---them leaving for Europe.

  Trump has a lot of info that is negative toward them.  HE WILL EXPOSE THEM.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: larsonstdoc on December 21, 2015, 12:13:53 pm
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

  TRUMP TWEETS THIS MORNING---DEC 21, 2015

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  11m11 minutes ago
A suicide bomber has just killed U.S. troops in Afghanistan. When will our leaders get tough and smart. We are being led to slaughter!

 Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  37m37 minutes ago
"@DRUDGE_REPORT: UPDATE: ISIS jihadists stole 'tens of thousands' of blank passports... http://yhoo.it/1Qzjgko "  Here we go!

 Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  42m42 minutes ago
It's the Democrats' total weakness & incompetence that gave rise to ISIS --  not a tape of Donald Trump that was an admitted Hillary lie!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 21, 2015, 02:11:35 pm
If he makes it do you realize how the (useless Obama time)constitution will be used  against him, especially if he pursues all his promises. Well at least he would get congress working again.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 21, 2015, 08:10:47 pm
oh boy ... Jersey City police pipe up ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3369705/Was-Trump-Police-officer-says-pockets-Muslims-celebrated-9-11-shouted-Allahu-Akbar.html
New Jersey police officers say Muslims DID celebrate 9/11 and eyewitness remembers cheers of 'Allahu Akbar!'
 NJ.com found several former police officers who recalled 'modest celebrations' on 9/11
Rooftop celebrations, and a celebration in the street, were remembered by eyewitnesses 
The mayor of Jersey City still contends that celebrations didn't happen   

By Nikki Schwab, U.s. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com
Published: 19:18 EST, 21 December 2015  | Updated: 20:29 EST, 21 December 2015

...

'The women were shouting in Arabic and keening in the high-pitched wail of Arabic fashion,' Gallagher continued. 'They were told to go back to their apartments since a crowd of non-Muslims was gathering on the sidewalk below and we feared for their safety.'

That apartment building, located in Jersey City, New Jersey, was visited by FBI agents several days later and some residents were taken into custody, the Star-Ledger reported.


Another celebration occurred on Jersey City's John F. Kennedy Boulevard, according to eyewitnesses, which is near the mosque where Omar Abdel-Rahman, known as 'the blind sheikh,' had preached before his terrorist ties were uncovered during the investigation into the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

'When I saw they were happy, I was pissed,' said 56-year-old Ron Knight, who said he heard cries of 'Allahu Akbar' while making his way through a crowd of 15 to 20 people on the street.

60-year-old Carlos Ferran, who lives in the same apartment building of Knight, also remembered coming across the gathering while he was walking to a liquor store to buy beer.

'Some of them had their hands in the air,' Ferran told NJ.com. 'They were happy.' 

...
Gallagher told NJ.com that he didn't come forward to make a political statement, just to set the record straight.

'The celebrations happened,' he said. 'All or most on rooftops. The [Jersey City Police Department] leadership put on an order to seek the cooperation of the Muslim celebrants for their own safety. By 2 p.m. there were no more celebrations and my squad was designated a roving patrol to guard about six mosques.' 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3369705/Was-Trump-Police-officer-says-pockets-Muslims-celebrated-9-11-shouted-Allahu-Akbar.html#ixzz3v0oHaR67
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

...
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 22, 2015, 04:44:28 am
Ron Paul even admits that Trump is an establishment candidate.

That confirms it for me.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: jimd3100 on December 22, 2015, 05:46:02 pm
Media vs Trump   

It seems that the big media is desperate to try and sink Donald Trump's run for President.

reporter on how horrible Trump and his supporters are....

Evidently, he’s decided to find out just how low his supporters’ bar really is when it comes to what kind of thing it’s acceptable for a presidential candidate to say.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/putz-trump-drops-low-174300734.html

This made up "controversy" the reporter is trying to push insults all of Trumps supporters as well, which probably isn't the wisest thing to do. Meanwhile what is evidently within "what kind of thing it’s acceptable for a presidential candidate to say"..... is accusing other candidates of being recruiters of Islamic Terrorists.......

“He is becoming ISIS’s best recruiter. They are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.”  -Hillary Clinton
http://www.mediaite.com/online/dear-media-hillary-clinton-did-not-claim-donald-trump-is-being-used-in-isis-recruiting-videos/

According to Hillary Clinton Trump is a bigot, and your nice Muslim Neighbor and all those other members of the Islam Religion will suddenly want to cut your head off and marry off your daughter to a jihadist simply because they were shown a Trump speech. According to Clinton there is nothing wrong with Islam. Free speech is the problem, not Islam, because all it takes to become a radicalized jihadist is hearing an insult........."insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.”  Clinton, who is not the bigot, thinks Muslims can turn into terrorists by just hearing an insult.
 
"showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.” -- Hillary Clinton not being a bigot against Islam nor insulting other candidates.

Perhaps I haven't been keeping up with the latest releases, but I have seen many so called Al Qaeda and ISIS recruiting videos, and if I had to name one American that has been in the most of them, it would be her husband Bill, I don't recall ever seeing Trump in one.

The left/right Dem/Repub Lib/Con fights in the disinformation media are tired old and boring.

Actually when looking at the serious issues Trump easily becomes the most interesting candidate.

When it comes to destroying Jihadi Islamic Terrorists no President is more eager than Syria's Assad and Russia's Putin. Turkeys' reckless and insane actions in the region could drag the world in another World War. All the candidates I've heard seem to want to convince me that Putin and the Russians, along with Assad, who is supposed to be another Middle East monster and is the Syrian Leader of their Government. These are supposed to be my enemies, along with Iran. I'm not really supposed to notice that these are coincidentally the exact same enemies of the Sunni Muslim radicals, who are just starting their idiotic religious civil war between the Islamic split of Sunni and Shiite. What a coincidence!

This week, Saudi Arabia announced that it was forming a new “Islamic military alliance" devoted to fighting global terrorism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/12/17/saudi-arabias-islamic-military-alliance-against-terrorism-makes-no-sense/

What great friends and fighters of Radical Islamic terrorists our Saudi buddies are..... LOL! This “Islamic military alliance" has nothing to do with forming a coalition to wipe out the apostate Shiites of course.............

The exclusion of Shiite nations in an alliance designed to represent the Islamic world seems to reinforce the belief that Saudi Arabia's alliance is motivated by a sectarian rivalry with Iran and not terrorism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/12/17/saudi-arabias-islamic-military-alliance-against-terrorism-makes-no-sense/

Maybe it's just a wacky coincidence? Like the arms deal recently made. What good is an “Islamic military alliance" without weapons?

WASHINGTON, Nov 16, 2015 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Saudi Arabia for air-to-ground munitions and associated equipment, parts and logistical support for an estimated cost of $1.29 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on November 13, 2015.
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/government-saudi-arabia-air-ground-munitions

These weapons should help with stability....LOL!.....

Providing these defense articles supports Saudi Arabian defense missions and promotes stability in the region.
This acquisition will help sustain strong military-to-military relations between the United States and Saudi Arabia, improve operational interoperability with the United States, and enable Saudi Arabia to meet regional threats and safeguard the world's largest oil reserves.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/government-saudi-arabia-air-ground-munitions

No, my real enemies, both foreign and domestic, are the scum involved in the 9/11 Attacks. This was an operation carried out by a Saudi Intelligence created group, created with U.S. approval, a group originally formed to go after the commie Russians. But there is a difference between U.S. contemporary foreign policy, and extreme religious theology. As the world later found out.

AL Qaeda, Sunni extremists funded and created by the Saudi Intelligence. With American Government approval.....

Prince Bandar speaking about Bin Laden....

PRINCE BANDAR: This is ironic. In the mid-'80s, if you remember, we and the United -- Saudi Arabia and the United States were supporting the Mujahideen to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviets. He came to thank me for my efforts to bring the Americans, our friends, to help us against the atheists, he said the communists.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0110/01/lkl.00.html

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10867111&postcount=94

Governments using terrorists groups is nothing new.

I'm tired of being told the Shiites(Iran-Syria)are my enemies, along with Putin and Russia, and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are my friends.....

Brigadier Ijaz Shah is a retired Pakistan Army officer and the former Director-General of Intelligence Bureau of Pakistan, and a long-term close associate of Pervez Musharraf, and a former Pakistan Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) operator.
Shah was the ISI handling officer of the British-born international terrorist Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, convicted for the murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl and part of the terrorist group Harkat-ul-Mujahideen as well as the handling officer for Osama Bin Laden and Mulla Mohammed Omar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijaz_Shah
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10891689&postcount=131

Putin and the Russians, and Iran, Assad and Syria, are not my enemies.

A Brief Overview of Possible Saudi Government Connections to the September 11th attacks
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10866956&postcount=91
http://www.scribd.com/doc/272443421/2012-048-doc-017

My enemies are the traitors in my Government who covered up and protected their foreign Saudi/Pakistani (Sunni) partners,  while conducting a mass murder campaign in Iraq and Afghanistan.

15 years later....The cover up and Treason is just another day now. But this day was created by the past, I would like to know Donald Trumps reaction if he were to read the 28 pages.

Concealing these 28 pages:
*Prevents the American people from reaching informed judgments about the nation’s foreign and defense policies—past and future
*Shields the sponsors of extremism from consequences for their actions—encouraging their continued sponsorship

http://28pages.org/

Trump is a candidate who seems to think Putin and the Russians are not our enemy.

Trump, trying to explain to media reporters that even though he and Putin respect each other there are some differences....

As he has done in multiple appearances now, Trump directed his audience’s attention to the members of the media covering his rally. As the crowd turned to look at the reporters, Trump pointed at the reporters present and said some are “lying, disgusting people.”

“I would never kill them, but I do hate them,” Trump said.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/putz-trump-drops-low-174300734.html

LOL! I've never seen anybody slam the media like that before! And he's acknowledging that Putin has some unpleasant "quirks", to put it nicely.

When I first heard Trump say "take the Iraq Oil and give it to the vets", I thought it sounded rather stupid, but now I think he might actually have a very ambitious and interesting plan. If ISIS has taken over certain oil fields and facilities,... and they have....then not only would it make sense to target that, but they would HAVE TO at some point, take over Iraq's Oil controlled by ISIS. IOW- This Iraq Oil, controlled by ISIS, HAS to be taken away from them. Part of the Saudi Plan all along?
 
Actually, taking Iraq's Oil(the oil controlled by ISIS) has to be done, unless the U.S. WANTS to have ISIS, the terrorist group, to continue to make millions of dollars a day. (Our current plan)

Trump probably thinks that's stupid.

This would require some kind of diplomacy with Putin, and Trump has recently proven he seems to be the only one that can conduct diplomacy with Putin.

Someone HAS to take the Oil away from ISIS, and Trump thinks the U.S. should do it. Because evidently The Iraq Government can't.
 
This is probably the plan no matter who becomes President.

(CNSNews.com) - Donald Trump says he would defeat ISIS by taking over the oil fields the terrorists have seized in Iraq.

"We should definitely take back money for our soldiers," he told NBC's "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd on Sunday.

"We've had soldiers that were decimated, so badly hurt -- the wounded warriors, and killed, of course. But we've had soldiers that were so badly hurt and killed, I want their families to get something because we got nothing out of that war.

"We spent $2 trillion, Chuck. We had thousands of people killed. Wounded warriors all over the place, they got nothing. And they can't even say we had a victory."

Trump said he never advocated a U.S. war with Iraq

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/trump-take-iraqs-oil-wealth-and-give-it-wounded-warriors

So if the plan is to destroy ISIS, wouldn't that REQUIRE the elimination of them selling millions of dollars worth a day of Oil they control? The whole world knows now that Turkey got caught with it's hand in the Oil jar, they are a major buyer of this Oil, and therefor financier of ISIS, along with the Saudis, among others. But what is more likely, is that instead of  "taking Iraq's Oil", it would be more of an "International Operation". They could "Administer control" of the Oil until the Iraqi Government is "deemed able and qualified" (no Shiite gov)to run and defend it. Trump has been repeating that he is the "best deal-maker" of the candidates. And is already proving he has diplomacy skills with Russia. The Sunni's, through ISIS, are stealing OIL and eventually will want it all, spoils of their fantasy victory over the Shiites.

So, as it looks now, I find the field of candidates for U.S. President on both sides of the Democrat/Republican cults, to be amazingly horrible and an embarrassment, the media is now convincing me, unbeknownst to them, that I'm starting to think Trump should probably be crowned king of the Republican "Horrible embarrassments". Trump and Rand Paul would be the only candidates I would even consider wasting my time voting for, I don't know if that qualifies as being a "supporter".

Unfortunately, Trump beating Clinton would probably be a bigger upset than the 1980 U.S. Olympic Hockey team winning the Gold. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gfD134ED54
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 22, 2015, 06:40:14 pm
All of it nation manipulation into WW3.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on December 22, 2015, 07:11:46 pm
I would have to agree with Jim, the insanity of what is going on can only be termed as treason with no one caring that can do anything about it.
I would love to see Trump - Paul ticket but Paul is being such a bone head I can only shake my head at him.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 22, 2015, 07:23:07 pm
One very strange detail is the supposed approval ratings for Obama ... just check it out
46 percent Approve of his job performance? It that real? Or are the polls among only the brain damaged?

I can only assume these are the same zombies that would vote for Hillary ....


http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx
% Approve % Disapprove
12/19-21/2015 46% 50%
12/10-12/2015 45% 50%


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Tuesday, December 22, 2015
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 47% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove (see trends).

The latest figures include 26% who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president and 40% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history
Date           Approval Index Strongly Approve Strongly Disapprove Total Approve Total Disapprove
22-Dec-15  -14                   26%                   40%                       47%               52%
 

| - - - -

Contrast this with George Bush approval ratings last term:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx
George W. Bush Presidential Job Approval
 (http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/cvfspjk4hesmzts2bc0brg.gif)

Approve Disapprove No opinion
 
2009
 
 
 2009 Jan 9-11
 
34 61 5
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on December 22, 2015, 08:02:51 pm
What is scary is I see the Obama Droids everywhere and they are dangerously and completely under mind control. They can't even be told why they believe a lie, due to the language doctrine that has dumb them down to a point of having their conscience seared.
And I live in a pure Republican state, I can't image how bad it is in other states.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: poncho on December 22, 2015, 09:39:44 pm
I would have to agree with Jim, the insanity of what is going on can only be termed as treason with no one caring that can do anything about it.
I would love to see Trump - Paul ticket but Paul is being such a bone head I can only shake my head at him.

Agreed.  I might vote this time (It's been more than 20 years!)  A Trump/Paul ticket would insure my vote. 
But Rand keeps attacking Trump. 

 It's the dumbest thing he could do.  Trump is attacked by everyone right now.  So Rand's voice on that means nothing, and in the roar of the media attacks on him, he cannot even be heard.

If Rand is smart, he will dump his idiot helpers.  After that, instead of attacking Trump, he should support Trump.  He might even get some headlines again, as the media attacks him too.  (He is barely mentioned these days.)

Rand would be a great Vice Pres.  He has no chance, unless he changes course.

What is scary is I see the Obama Droids everywhere and they are dangerously and completely under mind control. They can't even be told why they believe a lie, due to the language doctrine that has dumb them down to a point of having their conscience seared.
And I live in a pure Republican state, I can't image how bad it is in other states. 

I'm floored by the Obama Droids too.  I've know some of them for a long time.  There are some very smart people that do not see the big picture.
I can only chalk it up to propaganda.  The Nazi's and Soviet's have nothing on the Good Ole USA right now, when it comes to propaganda and media mind control...
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on December 22, 2015, 10:44:38 pm
Agreed.  I might vote this time (It's been more than 20 years!)  A Trump/Paul ticket would insure my vote. 
But Rand keeps attacking Trump. 

 It's the dumbest thing he could do.  Trump is attacked by everyone right now.  So Rand's voice on that means nothing, and in the roar of the media attacks on him, he cannot even be heard.

If Rand is smart, he will dump his idiot helpers.  After that, instead of attacking Trump, he should support Trump.  He might even get some headlines again, as the media attacks him too.  (He is barely mentioned these days.)

Rand would be a great Vice Pres.  He has no chance, unless he changes course.

I'm floored by the Obama Droids too.  I've know some of them for a long time.  There are some very smart people that do not see the big picture.
I can only chalk it up to propaganda.  The Nazi's and Soviet's have nothing on the Good Ole USA right now, when it comes to propaganda and media mind control...

Spot on; I am a chairman of the Republican party in the a county that the republicans seek after, of course it's for the money; but I have not voted for a Republican for 8 years however my wife and I will vote for Trump; simply because he is up front and I believe we can trust him at this point.
Are there thing we disagree with right now, of course yes, but as his eye are open I believe he will do exploits that will amaze us all. He is over his head but aren't we all, pray for God's hand to be over him and a hedge of protection, because the frustration of the elites is going to drive them mad.
PS
I hate Rand's handlers, they are traitors and need to be let go of, Rand need to adlib right now and change his foolishness in this area. I also thought that he should be siding with Trump, right now!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: poncho on December 22, 2015, 11:42:22 pm
Spot on; I am a chairman of the Republican party in the a county that the republicans seek after, of course it's for the money; but I have not voted for a Republican for 8 years however my wife and I will vote for Trump; simply because he is up front and I believe we can trust him at this point.
Are there thing we disagree with right now, of course yes, but as his eye are open I believe he will do exploits that will amaze us all. He is over his head but aren't we all, pray for God's hand to be over him and a hedge of protection, because the frustration of the elites is going to drive them mad.
PS
I hate Rand's handlers, they are traitors and need to be let go of, Rand need to adlib right now and change his foolishness in this area. I also thought that he should be siding with Trump, right now!
Agreed 100%!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 23, 2015, 12:44:59 am
Agreed.  I might vote this time (It's been more than 20 years!)  A Trump/Paul ticket would insure my vote. 
But Rand keeps attacking Trump. 

 It's the dumbest thing he could do.  Trump is attacked by everyone right now.  So Rand's voice on that means nothing, and in the roar of the media attacks on him, he cannot even be heard.

If Rand is smart, he will dump his idiot helpers.  After that, instead of attacking Trump, he should support Trump.  He might even get some headlines again, as the media attacks him too.  (He is barely mentioned these days.)

Rand would be a great Vice Pres.  He has no chance, unless he changes course.

I'm floored by the Obama Droids too.  I've know some of them for a long time.  There are some very smart people that do not see the big picture.
I can only chalk it up to propaganda.  The Nazi's and Soviet's have nothing on the Good Ole USA right now, when it comes to propaganda and media mind control...

Rand isn't mindlessly attacking Trump... no adhoms or misquotes or stretches. Paul is correcting the big guy on points where his stance, without well thought out adjustment, would violate the rights of innocent folks in direct opposition to the Constitution...

Trump has "balls of titanium" and plenty of cash on hand... Rand has the Constitutional savvy of his father in no small measure and the tenacity to speak truth to power no matter who and no matter what... besides, they both have great hair, it's a natural...(chuckle)...

Keep Donald on track Rand I'm likin' it.

Oldyoti

"The latent causes of faction are thus sown in the nature of man; and we see
them everywhere brought into different degrees of activity, according to the
different circumstances of civil society. A zeal for different opinions concerning
religion, concerning government, and many other points, as well of speculation
as of practice; an attachment to different leaders ambitiously contending for pre-
eminence and power; or to persons of other descriptions whose fortunes have
been interesting to the human passions, have, in turn, divided mankind into parties,
inflamed them with mutual animosity, and rendered them much more disposed to
vex and oppress each other than to co-operate for their common good. So strong
is this propensity of mankind to fall into mutual animosities, that where no substantial
occasion presents itself, the most frivolous and fanciful distinctions have been
sufficient to kindle their unfriendly passions and excite their most violent conflicts."

~James Madison, Federalist Paper #10
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on December 23, 2015, 04:42:01 am
Rand isn't mindlessly attacking Trump... no adhoms or misquotes or stretches. Paul is correcting the big guy on points where his stance, without well thought out adjustment, would violate the rights of innocent folks in direct opposition to the Constitution...

Trump has "balls of titanium" and plenty of cash on hand... Rand has the Constitutional savvy of his father in no small measure and the tenacity to speak truth to power no matter who and no matter what... besides, they both have great hair, it's a natural...(chuckle)...

Keep Donald on track Rand I'm likin' it.

Oldyoti

"The latent causes of faction are thus sown in the nature of man; and we see
them everywhere brought into different degrees of activity, according to the
different circumstances of civil society. A zeal for different opinions concerning
religion, concerning government, and many other points, as well of speculation
as of practice; an attachment to different leaders ambitiously contending for pre-
eminence and power; or to persons of other descriptions whose fortunes have
been interesting to the human passions, have, in turn, divided mankind into parties,
inflamed them with mutual animosity, and rendered them much more disposed to
vex and oppress each other than to co-operate for their common good. So strong
is this propensity of mankind to fall into mutual animosities, that where no substantial
occasion presents itself, the most frivolous and fanciful distinctions have been
sufficient to kindle their unfriendly passions and excite their most violent conflicts."

~James Madison, Federalist Paper #10


OKAY, that make sense; but Paul's handlers have got to go; they discredit him and everyone knows it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 23, 2015, 10:56:48 am
OKAY, that make sense; but Paul's handlers have got to go; they discredit him and everyone knows it.

No argument here on that one... Rand will do what he should when left to his own honorable devises... we're beginning to see that now.

JTCoyoté

"For the Defense of the Liberties and
Independence, of the United States,
against the hostile designs of foreign
enemies."
~Continental Army
Recruitment Poster from 1776


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on December 23, 2015, 04:36:27 pm
The BIG Debate will be: Old Hag Vs. Mr. New!

 Hillary vs. Trump!

...and all the Nation and the World knows Trump will WIN!

...old Hag is just that---to OLD and a Big Liar!

...Trump is Clean and he is using his own money...

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 23, 2015, 04:43:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
I Am Sick And Tired - Hillary Clinton

The BIG Debate will be: Old Hag Vs. Mr. New!

 Hillary vs. Trump!

...and all the Nation and the World knows Trump will WIN!

...old Hag is just that---to OLD and a Big Liar!

...Trump is Clean and he is using his own money...
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: iamc2 on December 23, 2015, 04:47:14 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
I Am Sick And Tired - Hillary Clinton
WOW! that Old Hag is NUTS!

...she just yells and screams: like she is in a Horror film!

...OH! she is in the horror film...of world chaos!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 24, 2015, 10:10:42 am

... his post on INSTAGRAM on 23rd.   :)

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/Screen-Shot-2015-12-23-at-5.00.55-PM.png) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/Screen-Shot-2015-12-23-at-5.00.55-PM.png.html)


  √ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/23/rand-paul-posts-festivus-grievances-donald-trumps-posts-love/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 24, 2015, 11:48:05 am
Trump is a trojan horse candiate just like Hope and Change Obama was.


I think I'll hold out for the CP alternative.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 25, 2015, 09:41:32 am
GOP’s secret plan to stop Trump

Quote
One look at the polls and it’s obvious that American voters are sick to death of business as usual.

More and more voters are flocking to support presidential candidate Donald Trump. And it’s got the bosses of the Republican Party are in full-blown panic mode. Now, reports say they’ve been holding secret meetings to discuss how to undermine the “insurgent” candidacy of Trump should he begin winning state primaries.

The Washington Post has reported that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and GOP chairman Reince Priebus quietly met with “several longtime Republican power brokers” to discuss a strategy to defeat Trump on the Republican convention floor… even if he wins many of the primaries and has the most delegates.

That doesn’t just stink. That smells so bad that longtime party loyalists are up in arms.

“I get that you need to have contingency plans in place, but this looks like they’re trying to rig the game,” Jeffrey Lord, a former Ronald Reagan administration official told The Hill. “It just feeds the narrative that the establishment is completely out of touch with the base.”

Even one of Trump’s biggest rivals has previously said that he wants nothing to do with the ugly politics-as-usual already taking place behind the scenes.

“I am prepared to lose fair and square, as I am sure is Donald,” Dr. Ben Carson told Politico. “But I will not sit by and watch a theft. I intend on being the nominee. If I am not, the winner will have my support. If the winner isn’t our nominee, then we have a massive problem.”

A longtime member of the Republican Party’s Rules Committee said the deck is already stacked in favor of the establishment’s bought-and-paid-for milquetoast candidates rather than the common-sense conservatives that voters are so desperately searching for.

Curly Haugland, a Republican National Committee member from North Dakota, said the way the rules are written, a candidate doesn’t have to win the primaries to win the nomination. He just has to win the vote of the delegates at the convention – a process that could take place behind closed doors, especially if no one has a clear majority.

Many of those delegates are longtime party members who would face intense pressure from Republican bosses. And while Trump may have written “The Art of the Deal,” he knows he’ll have a distinct disadvantage when it comes to the backroom deals of politics.

“I’d be going up against guys who grew up with each other, who know each other intimately, and I don’t know who they are, okay? That’s a big disadvantage,” Trump told the Post. “These kind of guys stay close. They all know each other. They want each other to win.”

And that means they all want Trump to lose… even if they won’t admit it in public

Republican party is s**t like their buddy democrats s**t.  Why anyone would support either of these parties,,  is beyond me.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 25, 2015, 09:35:46 pm
And now we have John McAffee (http://www.infowars.com/mcafee-will-run-as-libertarian-party-candidate-for-president/) attempting to sew up a libertarian Trump retreat... Trump must take the republican party or start a new one... trump is being forced to prove his Constitutional Patriotism...

The glitz blind Trump-oids are now attacking the Libertarian Party as a CIA front because folks who have worked for the CIA in the past, openly, have been Libertarian presidential candidates... sheesh... look at the "Bilderburg - church o' Satan" list of baby killers the 2 main parties have garnered as our "leaders" over the last 5 decades...

Oh, and how about that CIA asset Ron Paul the Libertarians nominated back in '88... man we gotta watch those Libertarians... but we can trust those like Trump with billion and trillion dollar bank rolls though... (sic)

Are people daft?! Let all who wish to come forth with a Patriot message in pursuit of the office do so... that includes John McAffee... Dammit I want to see a real political fight for liberty here and not just one guy making all the "right" talking points, some very common sense based, but it is all against a backdrop of cookie cutter molded known liars and down dumbers on both sides. He's saying nothing substantive about the Constitution... he's just a "guy on a white horse" jabbering on about making the country great again... and not much more.

Trump is working like a Trojan horse and it is running all too smooth for him, that raises my neck hair. The other day the a fore mentioned CIA asset Ron Paul said that he thinks Trump is the establishment take over man, the under-miner of the Patriot cause and is really in the camp of the globalist bastards...

Any takers?

Oldyoti

"The globalists being unnatural control freaks, have
forgotten a rule of nature... you see, by decreeing that
everything obey their technological control grid, their
tsunami of surveillance and harassment, calling all normal
life to a halt, they have unleashed the very thing that
will destroy them first. They have inadvertently opened
into the conscious mind of the people, the fear of tyranny,
which carries with it a search for the vindicating power
of truth. Truth is the spike upon which tyrants self-impale."
~Coyoté

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on December 25, 2015, 11:49:07 pm
I can see it; it's like a mission impossible episode. Who thinks these things up, yeeees. Dang it you have a point and I don't like it but got to think it is possible. mmmmh we need to put our thinking caps on!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: poncho on December 26, 2015, 12:11:42 am
I think one thing most of us around here have in common, is that our trust is not easily earned.

In various ways, we have all lost a lot of faith in most of our fellow humans.
And this is the case with Trump. 

He has slowly grown on me but I'm always going to be leery. 
I must admit, that he is the first candidate that actually has a chance of winning, who seems like he may do for good than harm.
I can only hope, he is as such.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 26, 2015, 01:29:29 am
"I got's a couple that can see"

...chuckle... Here is Ron Paul's take on it all (http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/ron-paul-trump-is-the-real-establishment-candidate/) from a few days ago... The ol' master "Yoda Paul" does it again...

JTCoyoté

"The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion,
otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if
the fort is taken -- I have answered the demand with
a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the
walls -- I shall never surrender or retreat."
~William Barret Travis,
Lt. Col. Comdt., Alamo-Bejar,
Feby. 24th, 1836
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 26, 2015, 02:18:39 am
"I got's a couple here that can see"

...chuckle... Here is Ron Paul's take on it all (http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/ron-paul-trump-is-the-real-establishment-candidate/) from a few days ago... The ol' master "Yoda Paul" does it again...

JTCoyoté

"The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion,
otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if
the fort is taken -- I have answered the demand with
a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the
walls -- I shall never surrender or retreat."
~William Barret Travis,
Lt. Col. Comdt., Alamo-Bejar,
Feby. 24th, 1836


What McAfee is doing here whether intended or not, is blocking a Libertarian party retreat by Trump should the republicans broker him out. McAfee's forcing Trump to prove his Constitutional Patriot Credentials making him use his momentum and present position to take back the "Party of Lincoln" for the people and for the Constitution by sending the Neo-cons and the RINOs packing.

They can toddle off and start a new party or rejoin the Democrats from which they originally came as part of the Lyndon Johnson - Scoop Jackson War Hawk Democrats who infiltrated the Republican party during the Vietnam years just after the Kennedy Coup with solid entrenchment by the time of the Watergate fiasco and trials.

The question is will Trump do it...

Oldyoti

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress
and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but
to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

~Abraham Lincoln
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: poncho on December 26, 2015, 02:49:31 am
"I got's a couple that can see"

...chuckle... Here is Ron Paul's take on it all (http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/ron-paul-trump-is-the-real-establishment-candidate/) from a few days ago... The ol' master "Yoda Paul" does it again...

JTCoyoté

"The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion,
otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if
the fort is taken -- I have answered the demand with
a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the
walls -- I shall never surrender or retreat."
~William Barret Travis,
Lt. Col. Comdt., Alamo-Bejar,
Feby. 24th, 1836


Thanks.
I digested that food for thought.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 26, 2015, 02:54:16 am
What really amazes me is how much these two resemble one another, in a familial way I mean... it's uncanny!

(http://www.fototime.com/6FD1614E246AD91/standard.jpg) (http://www.fototime.com/494AA35C3DC4989/standard.jpg)

Oldyoti

"If the treaty-making power is boundless,
then we have no Constitution."
~Thomas Jefferson
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: pac522 on December 26, 2015, 02:09:46 pm
The other day the a fore mentioned CIA asset Ron Paul said that he thinks Trump is the establishment take over man, the under-miner of the Patriot cause and is really in the camp of the globalist bastards...

Any takers?

Oldyoti

"The globalists being unnatural control freaks, have
forgotten a rule of nature... you see, by decreeing that
everything obey their technological control grid, their
tsunami of surveillance and harassment, calling all normal
life to a halt, they have unleashed the very thing that
will destroy them first. They have inadvertently opened
into the conscious mind of the people, the fear of tyranny,
which carries with it a search for the vindicating power
of truth. Truth is the spike upon which tyrants self-impale."
~Coyoté



I said this way before Paul, you can find my statement buried somewhere in this thread of orgasmic joy about false promises.

Read my lips, no new taxes...

Now to watch that video of Uncle Ron




I'll give you the short of the long of it.


The truth is Trump is full of shit. He's a carnival, sideshow, snake oil salesman. He's got you all hook line and sinker.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 26, 2015, 05:15:07 pm
Wait for the CP to candidate up.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 26, 2015, 07:26:46 pm
Wait for the CP to candidate up.

I'm with ya.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on December 27, 2015, 12:27:41 pm
 DT, highly intelligent, courage,strait up honesty, proven management talent, and he loves America.
 One hell of a resume, he has my vote.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 27, 2015, 02:52:24 pm
DT, highly intelligent, courage,strait up honesty, proven management talent, and he loves America.
 One hell of a resume, he has my vote.

In 1992 many of my friends said the same thing... highly intelligent, courageous, strait up honesty, proven management talent, and he loves America. One hell of a resume, he has my vote... they were talking about Ross Perot.

That is how we got the last Clinton...

6 years later in 1998 we were well on the way to hell... Heres Ron Paul's predictions that all came true. (http://www.voicesofliberty.com/video/ron-paul-in-1998-bombing-middle-east-makes-us-more-liable-to-terrorism/)

JTCoyoté

“Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens
who are not only prepared to take up arms, but
citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as
a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing
to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.
The cause of liberty, the cause of America, cannot
succeed with any lesser effort.”

~ John F. Kennedy, January 29, 1961
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 27, 2015, 04:19:15 pm
    Everyone in here knows the rep/dem is the same thing if and a big IF all these down hard republican party puppet voters would wake up and realize that,  then the Ross Perot ses of this country might of changed things.
    Most everyone thinks that a third party vote is the wasted vote.  To that I say REALLY  someone please tell me the difference today, not the party platforms but the difference in the real running of the country today. Then convince me as to whose vote is the wasted vote.
         
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on December 27, 2015, 07:25:53 pm
 JT. In reply to your post. 1992.

DT, 911-"follow the money trail"( kinda hits a note), Stop illegal immigration, end sanctuary city's, not pleased with the GOP's suck ups, against the Iraq invasion long ago, borders maintained , 2nd adm rights, this guy has said strait up everything the current regime has promoted pushed on us.

On a human level, DT has a great deal of pride, a lot, I mention this for one reason, I sincerley beleive he doesn't want his name nor family's going down in infamy.
   
 
To compare him with Billy C is a long reach..Though Hillary will use her hubby's face to further her goal.
Despite, the e mails, Benghazi, Whitewater, donations for private use etc... Seems to me he hit on the truth.
I would truly be undone if this guy is a sh**bag like the Clinton crew.




Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 27, 2015, 08:15:03 pm
Anyone who thinks before they vote.... Will just wait till the Constitution Party candidate comes out.

www.constitutionparty.com
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 27, 2015, 08:42:04 pm
Anyone who thinks before they vote.... Will just wait till the Constitution Party candidate comes out.

www.constitutionparty.com

look at my previous post nearly 50 percent of the sheeple think Obamanation is doing a GOOD JOB ...

The situation is hopeless unless these "likely" voters never get near a polling place again ... they need to stay the heck at the hospice or homeless shelter... just don't vote maybe hitlery will finally scare them away ...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN-hQXbASCA
HITLERY 2016 - A Hillary Clinton administration would start WWIII
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on December 28, 2015, 06:43:42 am
Heming and hawing.
 DT has bought vital subjects to the forefront no other poll had the guts to, it's a wake up call.
Some are concerned he will not follow the constitution, I regress...OK, he does't have a in depth background as do a few others, very few on the C, but he will have advisors/staff/ to keep him leveled . I can't see this man writing a thousand executive orders in defiance of our C.
 Just my opinion, this guy is not on a par with OBY or the Hitlary.



 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on December 28, 2015, 09:02:41 am
Heming and hawing.
 DT has bought vital subjects to the forefront no other poll had the guts to, it's a wake up call.
Some are concerned he will not follow the constitution, I regress...OK, he does't have a in depth background as do a few others, very few on the C, but he will have advisors/staff/ to keep him leveled . I can't see this man writing a thousand executive orders in defiance of our C.
 Just my opinion, this guy is not on a par with OBY or the Hitlary.

I agree, DT may have some C problems, and maybe he doesn't give it the attention that should publically and maybe that is a political reasoning for the masses, because we do have to remember that that word has a cognitive dissonance affect!



 
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on December 28, 2015, 11:40:30 am

       I think I understand what you point is, the GP/masses don't want to get lost in the articles of Constitutional law , they simply want to get this nation back on its feet.
       I asked a guy, a brilliant/ engineer what the preamble of  the constitution is,zero response, he had to go and google it.
       Did that kinda get there? Or did I misinterpret your post.
       I'm still in DT's corner 85%..

             
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: decemberfellow on December 28, 2015, 08:21:56 pm
State changes primary rules to stop Trump
Billionaire and GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump went on the warpath this weekend after learning about changes to the Virginia primary that seem designed to harm his campaign.

Virginia will hold its presidential primary on March 1, and for the first time ever voters will be forced to sign a loyalty pledge claiming they are members of the Republican party.

In the past, independents and unaffiliated voters have been allowed to vote in the Virginia GOP primary. And demanding that voters be a member of a party isn’t all that unusual.

But the fact that Virginia Republicans have decided to make the move this presidential cycle is what has Trump and his supporters upset.

Trump has been polling very strongly among independents, and his campaign has been lauded for its ability to bring new voters under the Republican tent. Now, a significant portion of those voters may stay home on March 1 if Virginia requires them to sign a loyalty pledge.

“It begins,” tweeted Trump on Sunday. “Republican Party of Virginia, controlled by the RNC, is working hard to disallow independent, unaffiliated and new voters.”

Trump also claimed that the voters the Virginia Republican Party will exclude with its new rule may exact revenge come November.

“The Dems LOVE it,” he tweeted. “Be smart and win for a change.”

https://thehornnews.com/state-changes-primary-rules-to-stop-trump/ (https://thehornnews.com/state-changes-primary-rules-to-stop-trump/)

ok mr. trump stay to your promise  if the republican party does not play fair that he will run as 3rd party.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 28, 2015, 11:04:21 pm
JT. In reply to your post. 1992.

DT, 911-"follow the money trail"( kinda hits a note), Stop illegal immigration, end sanctuary city's, not pleased with the GOP's suck ups, against the Iraq invasion long ago, borders maintained , 2nd adm rights, this guy has said strait up everything the current regime has promoted pushed on us.

On a human level, DT has a great deal of pride, a lot, I mention this for one reason, I sincerley beleive he doesn't want his name nor family's going down in infamy.
   
 
To compare him with Billy C is a long reach..Though Hillary will use her hubby's face to further her goal.
Despite, the e mails, Benghazi, Whitewater, donations for private use etc... Seems to me he hit on the truth.
I would truly be undone if this guy is a sh**bag like the Clinton crew.

I'm not comparing Donald Trump to Bill Clinton... can't see for the life of me where you got that one... My comparison is in the way the horses are lining up in this race compared to the way they were stacked in 1992... with Trump sitting in the Ross Perot seat. The backing out by Perot under threat is what gave us Clinton.  Trump must take the Republican party and force the RINOs and Neo-Cons to jump and run.

If the republicans secure a brokered convention keeping Trump out and he runs 3rd party he will split the vote to where we will get Clinton or JEB which would be like being given the choice of death by dynamite or death by C-4. In a 3 way race, the Duo-party will win every time using the same tricks that they used in Texas to steal the delegates Buchanan won and electronically switched them all to Bush that same year.

Much of Trump's talk is compelling but it's what he doesn't say... he says little if any about upholding the Constitution as well as some of his "over the top" solutions and proposals all of which are unconstitutional... that's what's souring me on Donald Trump.

JTCoyoté

“The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society;
and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to
secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings.
We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and
unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed
the dangers which are cited to justify it.”

~ John F. Kennedy, April 27, 1961
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on December 29, 2015, 06:55:38 am
JT.. I misunderstood.
        Trump & the constitution, your right he doesn't refer to the constitution as much we had hoped, he is need of men like Ron P & pro C staffers to keep him on track.

                   Speculation is rampid,but his message is phenominal.
         
 Virginia affiliation Pledge for voters,mandatory party loyalty, Have you ever in your life seen this?
          I can't see DT playing GWB's game.." The constitution is just a piece of paper"
         (Just my opinion), I can't see this man leaving the boundry's of our our constitution.
                  If elected he will be at war with the establishment and their puppeteers.

       

       
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: sipsipaway on December 29, 2015, 09:11:46 am
JT.. I misunderstood.
        Trump & the constitution, your right he doesn't refer to the constitution as much we had hoped, he is need of men like Ron P & pro C staffers to keep him on track.

                   Speculation is rampid,but his message is phenominal.
         
 Virginia affiliation Pledge for voters,mandatory party loyalty, Have you ever in your life seen this?
          I can't see DT playing GWB's game.." The constitution is just a piece of paper"
         (Just my opinion), I can't see this man leaving the boundry's of our our constitution.
                  If elected he will be at war with the establishment and their puppeteers.

       

       
I looked at Virginia SOS election laws that stated ID must be presented. Just don't see that working think it will backfire in Virginia.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 29, 2015, 04:40:45 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/iconic-comedian-jerry-lewis-slams-obama-praises-donald-trump-video/
Iconic Comedian Jerry Lewis Slams Obama – Praises Donald Trump (Video)
Jim Hoft Dec 28th, 2015 4:27 pm —371 Comments

...


Lewis then said that President Obama was “never prepared” for ISIS and suggested that he was not a real leader…


…The clip concludes with Lewis praising Trump for his “showmanship.”

“I think he’s great,” said Lewis of Trump. “He’s a showman and we’ve never had a showman in the president’s chair.”
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: pac522 on December 29, 2015, 05:34:52 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/iconic-comedian-jerry-lewis-slams-obama-praises-donald-trump-video/
Iconic Comedian Jerry Lewis Slams Obama – Praises Donald Trump (Video)
Jim Hoft Dec 28th, 2015 4:27 pm —371 Comments

...


Lewis then said that President Obama was “never prepared” for ISIS and suggested that he was not a real leader…


…The clip concludes with Lewis praising Trump for his “showmanship.”

“I think he’s great,” said Lewis of Trump. “He’s a showman and we’ve never had a showman in the president’s chair.”

Awesome, just what we need a showman, with an inferiority complex, with the power of the signing statement.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on December 29, 2015, 09:54:22 pm
A wasted vote is a vote that  goes to someone who later betrays you.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on December 29, 2015, 10:56:31 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/iconic-comedian-jerry-lewis-slams-obama-praises-donald-trump-video/
Iconic Comedian Jerry Lewis Slams Obama – Praises Donald Trump (Video)
Jim Hoft Dec 28th, 2015 4:27 pm —371 Comments

...


Lewis then said that President Obama was “never prepared” for ISIS and suggested that he was not a real leader…


…The clip concludes with Lewis praising Trump for his “showmanship.”

“I think he’s great,” said Lewis of Trump. “He’s a showman and we’ve never had a showman in the president’s chair.”

Remember Jerry got kick off his own telethon show for questioning how the money was being used.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 30, 2015, 11:18:17 am
Remember Jerry got kick off his own telethon show for questioning how the money was being used.

Right. Jerry was shown that there was a effective cure for the disease and then went on to question where the money was going ( ie why not to these new treatments)  He was summarily kick in the ass and onto the street.

http://entertainment.time.com/2012/08/16/why-did-jerry-lewis-leave-the-telethon/
Why Did Jerry Lewis Leave the Telethon?

The star’s sudden departure last year from his Labor Day showcase has still not been explained. But it’s not a pretty story
...



Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on December 30, 2015, 11:21:30 am
A wasted vote is a vote that  goes to someone who later betrays you.

A wasted vote is a vote cast by you against your own informed conscience... this would include a vote for the lesser of two evils, unless a vote for the lesser evil, as a result of information that you yourself vetted, is determined by you to be the correct course of action.

JTCoyoté

"I do not conceive that power is given to the President and the Senate to
dismember the empire, or alienate any great, essential right. I do not think
the whole legislative authority have this power. The exercise of the power
must be consistent with the object of the delegation."
~James Madison
Title: Paul Craig Roberts: Why Trump Is Obsolete
Post by: Letsbereal on December 30, 2015, 05:25:54 pm
Paul Craig Roberts: Why Trump Is Obsolete https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXgGcCjfk9Q

Dec 30, 2015 The Alex Jones Channel
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on December 30, 2015, 07:16:46 pm
Hi L..Some hard core opinions....from CR..
   Notice how the pols are pushing through everything they can stuff down Americas throat, well that is but a beginning, the last thing the crew/neocons/want is anyone messing with their game plan.
  The  DT's movement has  these freaks edgy, it would be possible for them wack Trump out though it would create a massive revolt from his people. But, they can use their considerable power to attempt to block him making it appear it is perfectly legal( all the rhetoric and hoo Haaa) by the book, their book now ours.
  In any event, DT needs serious backup from loyal insiders/ and the people...VOTE.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 30, 2015, 07:44:24 pm
^^^


... yes. PCR is right that the OBAMANISTAS have brought the US
and the world to this dangerous precipice ... and now, if for no other
reason than CYA, they are not likely to accept Putin's seasoned and
reasoned lead in matters Near Eastern ... let's hope for an American-
styled "coup" in military leadership as AJ & Hersh speak of.


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: lee51 on December 31, 2015, 05:36:02 pm
I've suspected all along that Trump making his loud comments about Hiliary is nothing but a joke. He really is friends with her and the plan is for Hillary to win.  She may dish it right back at him publicly, but I think these people are just messing around having their kind of "fun." They really are friends.  I think it is sick and slimy. They play their "games" at the expense of lying to the American people.

I think Hillary is the choice of those really in charge of this country. Trump will not win nor will he care if he doesn't win. He is all blustery talk and nothing else. I can say I think he is really getting a kick out of this whole presidential thing.

Have any of you noticed that when pictures are posted of Hillary talking to groups of people, you only see a handful of people in the room? She is NOT popular, even with women.  Ron Paul had thousands come see him speak compared to Hillary's handful.  Does this not prove there is illegal voting going on?  It doesn't matter who we vote for in the end.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/05/donald-trump-and-bill-clinton-behind-the-bromance.html

Unless something happens--I believe Hillary will be the next President.  I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 31, 2015, 06:41:18 pm
^ ^ ^ ^

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/BrancoTrumpandHillary.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/BrancoTrumpandHillary.jpg.html)
Featured @RENSE.COM - [email protected]
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on January 01, 2016, 08:50:52 am
Exactly elect a Constitutionist.... There have been no assassination attempts on Trump....  If he was a real threat the Globalists would have taken him out by now.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: The Saint on January 01, 2016, 10:01:48 am
^ ^ ^ ^

... remember the IRANIAN (islamic) 'hostage crisis' during Democrat
Jimmy Carter's admin? When crazy muslims took
US Embassy workers hostage, etc?

IT'S COMMON SENSE. YOU DON'T THROW OPEN
YOUR BORDERS TO YOUR ENEMY ... DUH.


CARTER BANNED IRANIANS FROM
COMING TO US DURING HOSTAGE CRISIS

Trump is just like Hitler. Or Jimmy Carter.

Here's Jimmy "Hitler" Carter saying it back in 1980.

Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.

  http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield

I've heard the comparison to Carter before, and it is invalid because banning citizens from a particular country is a very different thing to banning people of a particular religion.

Trump may not understand this, but there are Muslim citizens in every country in the world.

Trump's policy would mean there would need to be some sort of checkbox on a visa form to confirm that the visitor is not Muslim. This would make the US into a laughing stock and for no gain since only the law abiding visitor would be honest and tick the box.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 01, 2016, 07:16:24 pm

... anti-TRUMP sky writing ... by a RUBIO supporter ...

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/sky-writing-anti-Trump-420x315.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/sky-writing-anti-Trump-420x315.jpg.html)


Rubio Campaign Donor Behind
Anti-Trump Sky Writing at Rose Bowl

by MATTHEW BOYLE

A pro-GOP-establishment Alabama real-estate developer and millionaire is behind the anti-Donald Trump sky-writing at the New Year’s Day Rose Bowl parade in Pasadena, California, Breitbart News can reveal.

The skywriting printed out huge anti-Trump messages in the clear Southern California sky.

“America is great. Trump is disgusting.”

Skywriting over Rose Bowl right now: AMERICA IS GREAT. TRUMP IS DISGUSTING. ANYBODY BUT TRUMP. #gostanford pic.twitter.com/GYtTOfS5kN

— Molly Knight (@molly_knight) January 1, 2016

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/01/mysterious-establishment-millionaire-behind-anti-trump-messages-sky-rose-bowl-parade/
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on January 01, 2016, 07:37:26 pm
Yes, you've got it, it's a form of plagiarism. So we shouldn't really call it Sharia Law, but rather it's the Biblical Law, face it!

Methinks you doth protest too much..:D

Like I said irrational thinking. The bible is in no shape or matter anything you like to lead people to think, a typical play for those with an agenda. And if you knew anything about the truth you couldn't seriously even spouting out such nonsense.
But methink you do know better and are purposely committing a deception.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 01, 2016, 07:55:48 pm
... self-hating white guy and darling of the
pseudo-suavé, post-hippie ROLLING STONE
set, like all the other know-nothing FAR LEFT
WING windbags ... just doesn't get it:


READ IT IF YOU MUST

In the Year of Trump, the Joke Was On Us
How the campaign's biggest laugh turned ugly in 2015
BY MATT TAIBBI December 29, 2015

EXCERPT:
But Trump's act isn't all about race. He's also scoring points by mining the same mainstream frustrations over language-policing and political correctness that made Sam Kinison and Andrew Dice Clay famous. Trump's broadsides about Megyn Kelly aren't that far off from the Dice-Man's "Pattycake" routine.

The difference is, Clay and Kinison and comedians like them were trying to make a point about the absurdity of policing away forbidden thoughts, while Trump is basically a cretinous dinosaur who doesn't understand why slurs about periods or the disabled or "the blacks" were ever made taboo in the first place. He's not pushing back with a laugh, from a nightclub. He wants to do it from the Oval Office. Even Dice Clay thinks he's nuts.

All comedy is about misunderstandings. A little town gets word that a government inspector is coming, so it mistakenly rolls out the red carpet for a visiting drunk on a gambling spree.

2015 was the same kind of mistaken-identity tale. The Silent Majority has been waiting 50 years for a prophet, but this year it settled for a billionaire loudmouth with a comb-over and a personality disorder. Like all comedies, this one is bound to end with an explosion of unintended consequences. What we won't know until 2016 is whether this joke will end up being on all of us — or just those of us who waited too long to take Trump's accidental war seriously.

  http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-year-the-trump-laughter-died-20151229?page=4

TAIBBI
  https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrBT.SJLodW_V8Ac7lXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZnNnMjV0BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVUlDMV8xBHNlYwNwaXZz?p=MATT+TAIBBI&fr=aaplw&fr2=piv-web
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on January 01, 2016, 08:06:27 pm
 Trump grabbed the bull by the testicles, WHY?
 He openly admits we should have stayed out of the middle east, a fact. I can only imagine  the number of lives that would have been saved..Frankly/up front, he was right on target over a decade past.
                                                    I'm sure you agree, Yes, No?.
If any poster had been raised in a Muslim nation would it go to follow they would be a Muslim, for the most part I have to assume a child raised and nurtured with a religious based society YES they would be.
Quite the same as the majority of Americans have been raised in the Christian faith, it as if religion is a inheritance, family, socialy and nationaly.
 The USA regimes declared invasions in the M.E.were not in my opinion motivated by true Christian beliefs and values,they were lying rat scumbags hypocrits with a bible in one hand a bomb in the other moving the meat around and claiming to be sainted, churchgoers, holy than though hypocrits.
 Whats the difference. You tell me?
Glass houses and stones, I agree with the teachings of the Christ, but in all honesty I don't see it in today's or for the past 1/2 century. Nor do I agree with the Muslim standards of law that dictate to their populations, simply own/control their minds.
   It may sound off the board, but Mulsins I knew in other lands believed Christ a prophet. Fact.
As one human being to another, there is a right and wrong independent of relgious  training.
Trump is not calling for the slaughter of Muslims, invasions, genocide,idiotic nonsence, etc. In my opinion he wants to stop the cycle long enough to get a grip on the true culprits who began this horror show, a breather, time out,examination to get a handle on the disaster untill we can sort out solutions before this becomes a WWIII.
 The regimes and their insane elite wanna be demigods- masters along with their money grubbing sucklings wanted war, not the American people for the most part. True Christians didn't, the folks that truly beleive. The remainder have been the Joe go alongs, wiggle the flag-all is well no matter what the truth may be.
 I have know Muslims, here and in other countrys, some very nice, some rat bastards, just as in any other  religion.  However in all honesty their training has been dominated by faith, interbred with Governent dictates and very powerfull leaders using the devoted in line to get in the upper crust, not unlike most any religion.
 Trump is in my oppinion against the heirarchy that has brought us to this state, is that a bad thing.
He isn't blaming all Muslims, or targetting their faith, he is attempting to get to the bottom of this, including the regimes and Gov USA.. How the hell can he do that without calling a time out Lets get real, we are all human beings.  When any religion seeks to dominate a population they are using the oldest technique know to mankind.
 In end, killing for religious beleifs, domination of ones soul and mind eliminates the essence of all that is divine.  When a religon becomes a a pathway for the powerfull to move the masses to horendous abominations/ deeds it needs a close reveiw as to WHY.
 Historically, Rome, the Pope etc, commited acts I won't rant on, though in all honesty they are on par with ,  a close cousin to the Muslim training.
  History repeats, the problem the people pay the price for the crews on high.
Donald T, has at minimum brought attention to this fact.  The pole of this nation were duped, deceived, lied to blatantly by our illustrious teflon leaders YES, are all Christians in this involved, by no means whatsoever. Those who went along with this, no questioning, no remorse, lack basic free thinking human capacity.
 Im' sure (Saint) has the capacity to listen to an old duffer hit on points that may have revelance to this entire abomination.
 No one more than truthers wants an end to pyschotic criminals in office controlled by powers in the shadows, nor those controlled by religous training to the point of fanatasism in any other religion that condones slaughter.  Trump has to begin examination as why this began, who was clearly responsible,
 Pandoras box has been opened, it is my sincere hope we as human being all of us living  on this earth find the time to examine who is the true enemy of mankind, isn't it the time, or will this insanity continue.
 SAINT, please check out archives, dig around on  forums, pat archives, you may be a tad suprised.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 01, 2016, 09:24:29 pm
^^^

... great post chris.   :)

"Trump is not calling for the slaughter of Muslims, invasions, genocide,idiotic nonsence, etc. In my opinion he wants to stop the cycle long enough to get a grip on the true culprits who began this horror show, a breather, time out,examination to get a handle on the disaster untill we can sort out solutions before this becomes a WWIII."

... that truly is all he's said, and the lefties are having a cow.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on January 01, 2016, 11:08:25 pm
Yes, you've got it, it's a form of plagiarism. So we shouldn't really call it Sharia Law, but rather it's the Biblical Law, face it!

Methinks you doth protest too much..:D

Actually, we are not the ones calling it Sharia Law, rather it is the usurpers of righteous Islam by the Radical Sunni and Wahhabi sects who are implementing this bastardization of Mosaic Law, The Torah, and The Gospel, which already existed. This Original True Law was that which Mohammad vowed to and was inspired by God to protect when he was given the Quranic texts...

The demon in this is the web of woven tales that change with each telling, each interpretation, each new day it seems, and is the driving force behind the radicals. This force is found in the turning spinning and ever changing Hadith, the supposed eye-witness accounts by countless thousands of witnesses to actual talks and speeches of Mohammad. All of which have become a tangled web of yarns that are interpreted and handed down as edicts if you will, by radical Imams...

They should all read and understand the Quran instead and realize their true charge is actually in defense of God's Perfect Word as it was and is already upon Earth...

Now, Back On Topic regards Mr. Trump...

Oldyoti

"And let the People of the Gospel judge
by what God has revealed in it. If any fail
to judge by what God has revealed,
they are licentious."
  ~ Quran, Sura 5:50:
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: ShamRok on January 01, 2016, 11:28:05 pm
Trump has my vote, I don't think anyone else on the R. side would be nearly as effective at fighting for OUR Liberty. He is a true modern day hero in the classic sense.
He reminds me of the REAL old heroes we so desperately need today...

JFK, Lincoln, Jefferson, etc. I believe would heartily approve of him, if they could see the sad state the country and the world is in today.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on January 02, 2016, 08:07:13 am
Hi Jacob, Oh Yuh, just to say this( in terms of old ).
 It's is time for the people to smell the H**T being shoveled on em.
 It made me gutsick to see GWB being cheered at a speaking event, litterally sick to my stomach, vomit crawling up my gullet, the same deal with Hillary..
 I take this situation very seriously, maby over the edge a tad. People are not rats in the elites maze.
 The young here and other areas are being dipped, their minds are targeted. They need us...
 I was long ago dipped to the extreme, trained/ dictated to/  may be a more usefull explanation.
 It is not a healthy condition, years of my life were wasted in a Godless, deep,dark state of mind, safe for me to say I had no faith whatsoever.
 No rant, I finally found my soul, that inner voice was as if God was wispering to me and I finally listened. Truth has no price!
 
 
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 02, 2016, 08:19:14 am

... the crazy muslims in Somalia have joined forces
with the Hilldog-led US extreme far-left trying to
paint Trump as some crazed, lunatic madman for
suggesting we keep their ilk the hell out of our
country ... and have produced a video featuring
none other than our fair-haired boy.

But do you know what? It is backfiring just like
all the other radical-far-left propaganda ... and
just PROVES TRUMP'S POINT in aces!


Al-Qaeda affiliate group uses Trump’s anti-Muslim
rant in recruitment video: report

Arturo Garcia   01 JAN 2016 AT 17:58 ET

√ READ: https://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/al-qaeda-affiliate-group-uses-trumps-anti-muslim-rant-in-recruitment-video-report/

√ VIDEO: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/al-shabaab-releases-recruitment-video-featuring-donald-trump-36052487
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jacob Law on January 02, 2016, 08:22:11 am
Hi Jacob, Oh Yuh, just to say this( in terms of old ).
 It's is time for the people to smell the H**T being shoveled on em.
 It made me gutsick to see GWB being cheered at a speaking event, litterally sick to my stomach, vomit crawling up my gullet, the same deal with Hillary..
 I take this situation very seriously, maby over the edge a tad. People are not rats in the elites maze.
 The young here and other areas are being dipped, their minds are targeted. They need us...
 I was long ago dipped to the extreme, trained/ dictated to/  may be a more usefull explanation.
 It is not a healthy condition, years of my life were wasted in a Godless, deep,dark state of mind, safe for me to say I had no faith whatsoever.
 No rant, I finally found my soul, that inner voice was as if God was wispering to me and I finally listened. Truth has no price!
 
 
 

Truth is the ultimate achievement; finding it is what we all are seeking here. Yes shills and trolls invade us at times, but what they don't understand is even their ilk produces us a way to raise the truth above all their deceptions.
Truth demand full payment and that is everything we have and more, and that is why it has no price. 
God Bless You and Keep up the Good Fight!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on January 02, 2016, 12:43:57 pm
 There are so many points being made that have been given a great deal of thought and of course opinions.
 Do we agree on Trumps further points, a background check is required, if a immigrant cant provide documentation a safe zone should be established not an open border.
 As it stands now any and all are welcome, is there a limit?
I have sympathy for the civilians of any religion in a war zone, set up a safe zone and demand neighboring nations to to contribute to the cause.
 As has been admitted, the US regimes began this horror show with invasions based on falsehoods, esculated the wars by eliminating standing regimes and their leaders, of course a vaccum was created allowing power mongers to take over and backing provided.
 Trump knows fully well this abomination was bottom line PROFIT for the big dogs, that's what  wars are about, agreed or take issue.
  DT has made this an issue that can not nor should not be ignored, he is seeking solutions and evidence as to why this abomination was furthered. I beleive he is well aware of the reasoning but hesitant to take on the shadow establishment at this point in time.
 I have seen far to many innocents suffer at the hands of money grubbing power mongers using whatever means available to sway the masses, be it goverment lables, religions, or any other hogwash they stuff down the peoples throats.
 The tail doesn't wag the dog, untill the people rise up with a  humane desire to bring this neocon insanity,lunacy, nightmare to an end, it will go on for many years.
 I'm in favor of safe zones, thats it, if any tribe under any guize attempts to harm innocents harbored in these areas they will be vaporized. I don't give a twit what the civilians/innocents-  religion is, if people want to survive, have a life, are not  dictated to by extreme ideoligy, let them live and keep them safe. The strong Protect the helpless.
I have to mention one tid bit.
 No one has mentioned Gaddafi, this guy was considered a madman, really? This guy's reign was known by Christians living in Lybya as the Golden age of Christianity, hard to swallow that one..He also created what many considered the 8th wonder of the world, a water system unheard of in that region of the world.  He did detest Western infuence, I wonder WHY? 
 To imagine the UN attempting to bring tribal warfare under religious influence- to sit at a table and casually discuss ednding this sh**show is insanity at it's finest.
  I truly, fully care about the familys, mothers and children-they are innocents stuck in a corner like trapped rats at bay, I say give them hope, SAFE ZONES..Just as DT has stated, furthermore I don't care what tribe they belong to, what banner of religion they have been trained in, I have seen far to many slaughtered at the hands of the true enemy of mankind.
Thats the end of a rant, no definitive solution is available today is there, a carefully orchestrated safe zone would be the right beginning..
  It is time for the neighboring nations and the west to put asside their  philosophical mandates and get human, muck the religious dipping/ tribal H.S.- and get a heart & soul, care for those who are truly helpless.
  Let a humane process be established.

 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on January 02, 2016, 02:52:47 pm

... the crazy muslims in Somalia have joined forces
with the Hilldog-led US extreme far-left trying to
paint Trump as some crazed, lunatic madman for
suggesting we keep their ilk the hell out of our
country ... and have produced a video featuring
none other than our fair-haired boy.

But do you know what? It is backfiring just like
all the other radical-far-left propaganda ... and
just PROVES TRUMP'S POINT in aces!


Al-Qaeda affiliate group uses Trump’s anti-Muslim
rant in recruitment video: report

Arturo Garcia   01 JAN 2016 AT 17:58 ET

√ READ: https://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/al-qaeda-affiliate-group-uses-trumps-anti-muslim-rant-in-recruitment-video-report/

√ VIDEO: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/al-shabaab-releases-recruitment-video-featuring-donald-trump-36052487
                  Who paid for the VID, who wanted this done, who profits?
Hilly, who knows if she set this in motion, if she is pulling off another Benghazi..I wouldn't put it past her...
                 Secretary of scumbags, is she guiltless in all of this, brother this fits her style like a hand in a glove... The timing was incredible....a coincidence?
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 02, 2016, 03:08:33 pm
^^^^

... very suspicious, chris ... coming from an "Al Qaeda affiliate".
Sounds somewhat similar to the story about the stupid
anti-mohammad video that Hilldog said caused Benghazi.
But in any case, this clearly puts the far-left democrats
on the same side as crazy Somalian head-choppers!

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on January 02, 2016, 04:51:48 pm
Exactly elect a Constitutionist.... There have been no assassination attempts on Trump....  If he was a real threat the Globalists would have taken him out by now.
                 The last thing they want at this point in time an obvious kill. The crew is confident they will shut down Trump. They discovered JFK flat out murdering a president, in this case candidate could expose their grand planit's  risky scenario. 
                These muckers have something else on the table, of that I feel certain.
Trump has a massive following, he is a threat to the established crew.
  He is no fan of LIL Hillary as has been posted.-he has just begun his defense of this creature, wait untill he truly rags on her.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 02, 2016, 05:15:52 pm
^^^


... stay tuned ... Trump says he has his first barage of TV ads
ready to release in the first 3-4 States. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on January 02, 2016, 06:04:19 pm
^^^^

... very suspicious, chris ... coming from an "Al Qaeda affiliate".
Sounds somewhat similar to the story about the stupid
anti-mohammad video that Hilldog said caused Benghazi.
But in any case, this clearly puts the far-left democrats
on the same side as crazy Somalian head-choppers!
              Wasn't Lil Johny McCain suking up to Al Q?
No matter, they can run this video all mucken day, but can't pinpoint the source,,What mucken BS I wonder what  Anonomy's,Snowden, Wikileaks etc.. would come up with.
  They can spy on YOU the people, but not the sponser of this Vid?? Again, they insult our intelligence.
Im a cynic, I can't help it, I was made this way by those mutts who are determined to bring down this nation, the irony that I was once sheep dipped as admitted in past posts, WELL-the truth caught up to me, it was a ballistic wake up. Trust me, they don't love us.
    DT, cares about this nation, my opinion- for muck sake he has a lot to loose if he goes astray of the American base.
Does it appear to anyone he would enjoy his family &  name going down in flames.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 02, 2016, 06:13:54 pm

... I don't know if it fits ... but as I posted in another thread,
remember that GEORGE WASHINGTON was the richest
man in America when the Revolutionary War hit.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Dude447 on January 02, 2016, 06:47:59 pm
As an outsider looking in Trump if nothing else has caused a lot of debate on many subjects  that the old two winged turkey rep/dem mafia dont  like. Would I want to see him as President not to sure about that either
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Geniocrat on January 02, 2016, 07:43:46 pm
Has he ever done anything to make NY a better place and stopped the mass exodus going on from that state?

No.

Trump is nothing more than Hope and Change 2.0 and like idiots Americans are falling for it again.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 02, 2016, 11:04:50 pm
^^^


... katy bar the door.


Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on January 03, 2016, 01:09:41 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeXqNmQcn2E

  Youtube video...dated Jan 2, 2016

Trump BOMB!! Clinton & Obama created ISIS!

Donald Trump has just sunk his teeth tearing deep into the left thigh of the GORGON!

JTCoyoté

"There are no necessary evils in
government. Its evil exist only
in its abuse."
~Andrew Jackson
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: pac522 on January 03, 2016, 02:01:32 am
Donald Trump has just sunk his teeth tearing deep into the left thigh of the GORGON!

JTCoyoté

"There are no necessary evils in
government. Its evil exist only
in its abuse."
~Andrew Jackson


Except what Larry Nichols said keeps replaying over and over in my head...Hillary is going to have to be drug through the darkest, deepest pit of hell before she electable.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: JT Coyoté on January 03, 2016, 02:49:04 am
Except what Larry Nichols said keeps replaying over and over in my head...Hillary is going to have to be drug through the darkest, deepest pit of hell before she electable.

This is only the beginning... she will never be electable, nor will she ever be elected... because her harvest is neigh the fruit of her lies yesterday... and over the last year, and... 5, 10, 20, 30, years ago... lies and obfuscations of high criminal activity that continues to this day... Larry knows, Trump knows, and many others know as well... many have the damning documents of proof. After her drag through the pit of hell it will be like the shirt says..."Hillary for Prison! 2016"... her indictment will foist up "creepy" Uncle Joe... each in turn will fall...

But this is only the left side of the Globalist Gorgon which has been struck, it will be hit again and again as this whole thing plays out... But next... the RINO/NeoCon right side will feel a weakening blow.

JTCoyoté

"One man with courage makes a majority."
~Andrew Jackson
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: chris jones on January 03, 2016, 06:04:57 am
JT.
         I am impressed, delighted, over the top.. Finally a American rips apart the regimes lies.
This man knows a hell of a lot more, he is a freind of AJ, JV, etc.  What does that tell ya.
         He continues to walk the path of truth despite the danger, and bro there is more on the horizon.
VOTE......................
P.S:
                 Trump: 'Hillary Clinton created ISIS with Obama' - Business ...
www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-hillary-clint...
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 03, 2016, 12:09:30 pm
^^^

... can't answer all your points right now, but as to 'coalition of the willing':

"This is factually wrong and takes no account of anything that happened
more than a few years ago."


... I used the Bushian term 'coalition of the willing' to imply that
this kicking of the wasp's nest has been ongoing for a long time ...
it's just now that satan and muslim insanity reigns supreme ...
whatever control the 'coalition of the willing' had, is lost.

Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: TahoeBlue on January 03, 2016, 01:23:01 pm
new thread:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=313280.0
Donald Trump -- Islam 2016
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: pac522 on January 03, 2016, 04:15:07 pm
This is only the beginning... she will never be electable, nor will she ever be elected... because her harvest is neigh the fruit of her lies yesterday... and over the last year, and... 5, 10, 20, 30, years ago... lies and obfuscations of high criminal activity that continues to this day... Larry knows, Trump knows, and many others know as well... many have the damning documents of proof. After her drag through the pit of hell it will be like the shirt says..."Hillary for Prison! 2016"... her indictment will foist up "creepy" Uncle Joe... each in turn will fall...

But this is only the left side of the Globalist Gorgon which has been struck, it will be hit again and again as this whole thing plays out... But next... the RINO/NeoCon right side will feel a weakening blow.

JTCoyoté

"One man with courage makes a majority."
~Andrew Jackson


Then we need the documents to be made public. Anything else is as Larry put it, you have to make the Clintons look the worst they can before people will see them as electable. Unless an indictment comes down, plan on seeing Hillary on the ballot and people voting for her.
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: jofortruth on January 03, 2016, 04:22:07 pm
Trump dares Bill Clinton to talk about women's issues
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/264583-trump-dares-bill-clinton-to-talk-about-womens-issues

Title: 'Trump is disgusting': Skywriters troll Donald Trump from high above California
Post by: Letsbereal on January 03, 2016, 04:24:04 pm
'Trump is disgusting': Skywriters troll Donald Trump from high above California https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbevgOJjY4

Jan 2, 2016 RT
Title: Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 03, 2016, 04:27:29 pm
quote: The Saint
"Trump unconstitutionally wants to censor and restrict the internet."

The Donald is an internet geek ... he is running his campaign
from his Twitter acct for Heaven's sake. It was clear when he
made the statement about internet 'blocking' he was talking
about blocking its use by the ISIS and other enemy forces ...
nothing shocking and unconstitutional about that ... basic
War Fighting 101.

Title: Re: 'Trump is disgusting': Skywriters troll Donald Trump from high above California
Post by: TahoeBlue on January 03, 2016, 04:29:30 pm
Trying to keep the Demo-ratic sheeple in line ...
Dem establishment fear the trump ...   


'Trump is disgusting': Skywriters troll Donald Trump from high above California https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbevgOJjY4

Jan 2, 2016 RT
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