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Title: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on December 29, 2013, 06:20:20 pm
H. RES. 428
Urging the president to release information regarding the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks upon the United States.
Whereas President George W. Bush classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 2001;

http://www.browardbulldog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/H.-Res.-428.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVOJknKXeBk

(http://www.allhatnocattle.net/george_bush_cia_headquarters_sign.jpg)
Some background first:

Bandar Bush:

When the State Department had taken away his security detail after Clinton came into office, Bandar had protested vociferously, arguing he needed it because Saddam had taken out a contract to have him killed. Also, Saddam had tried to assassinate his favorite U.S. president, George H.W. Bush, while he was visiting Kuwait after leaving office in April 1993. So the prince couldn't wait for the U.S. bombs to fall."  page 137
http://www.amazon.com/Kings-Messenger-Americas-Tangled-Relationship/dp/0802716903

In June 1999, while Governor of Texas, Bush announced his candidacy for President of the United States.

While George Bush would win the Presidential election in Late 2000, and a new Vice President, a new Secretary of Defense, a new Secretary of State, and a new National Security Advisor would take their offices. But The CIA Director would remain the same. So would the counter terrorism Czar, Richard Clarke but for some unexplained reason Clarke was demoted with the arrival of the new Administration.

"Some CIA sources say that George Tenet set the tone for the CIA's Saudi relationship by relying heavily on developing close relationships with top Saudi officials, including Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, then the Saudi ambassador to the United States. Tenet met regularly with the Saudi ambassador. CIA officers familiar with the agency's relationship with Saudi Arabia say that about once a month, Tenet would slip away from CIA headquarters and travel to Bandar's nearby estate in McLean, Virginia, for quiet talks."

"Bandar and Tenet had a very close relationship," said one CIA officer. "Bandar had a unique role, he was in charge of the American relationship for Saudi Arabia."

"But some CIA officers handling Saudi issues complain that Tenet would not tell them what he had discussed with Bandar, making it difficult for agency officials to know the nature of any deals their boss was arranging with the Saudis."
page 188
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743270665/centerforcoop-20#noop

CIA and NSA were monitoring Al Qaeda's communication switchboard in Yemen where future 9/11 hijacker Khalid al-Mihdhar happened to live and so knew of a planned meeting in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

Kuala Lumpur terrorist Meeting organized by Hambali

"Hambali planned and attended the January 2000 Al Qaeda Summit in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Among the others present were two September 11 hijackers, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi. This gathering in Kuala Lumpur was observed by the CIA and Malaysian authorities, but what specifically was being said at the meetings was not picked up. Hambali also provided money and documents to Zacarias Moussaoui in October of that year."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riduan_Isamuddin

Pictures and videos were taken while the terrorists were under surveillance but supposedly no sound.

"Soon after, the CIA asked the Malaysian security service to spy on the Kuala Lumpur meeting, which took place as planned on January 5, 2000. The Malaysians' attempt to plant hidden microphones failed. But the Malaysian liaison services managed to take multiple photograghs of the terrorists, all of whom were unidentified at the time except for Mihdhar. The photos were also sent to the CIA." - page 14
http://www.amazon.com/The-Dark-Side-Inside-American/dp/B002RAR10S#reader_B002RAR10S

The story is, the CIA let it to the Malaysian liaison services to bug the meeting, instead of doing it themselves. It is generally understood that this was where "The Planes" operation was discussed.

From the Joint Inquiry:

"It was later determined that Khallad bin-Atash, a leading operative in Bin Ladin’s network, also attended the meeting. According to DCI Tenet, Khallad was “the most important figure at the Kuala Lumpur meeting” and he would later become “a key planner in the October 2000 USS Cole bombing.”
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

And The 9-11 Commission report says this about the Kuala Lumpur meeting.......

"Hazmi arrived in Kuala Lumpur soon thereafter and may even have stayed briefly with Khallad and Abu Bara at Endolite. Mihdhar arrived on January 5, probably one day after Hazmi. All four operatives stayed at the apartment of Yazid Sufaat, the Malaysian JI member who made his home available at Hambali's request."
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Ch5.htm

The authorities (CIA) still wont admit that KSM stayed at this apartment as well. Because as the wikileaks prison records will show, the surveillance of Mihdhar and Hazmi would lead straight to KSM who was already wanted for the bojinka plot and the plot to fly planes into buildings.*
This conveniently avoids the question of why didn't the CIA have KSM arrested at this point?

WikiLeaks Reveals Secret Files on All Guantánamo Prisoners
http://wikileaks.org/gitmo/

Hambali's folder....

"KU-10024 spent a week at an apartment detainee arranged for him in the Song Gai Long district of Kuala Lumpur, MY. At this apartment, KU-10024 stayed with 11 September 2001 hijackers Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar."  - page 8/12
https://wikileaks.org/gitmo/pdf/id/us9id-010019dp.pdf

KU-10024 is the prisoner number for KSM-for proof of this go here.....

Khalid Shaykh Muhammad
Country   Baluchistan, raised Kuwait
Place of birth   Kuwait
Birth date   UNDISCLOSED
ISN   10024   [US9KU-010024DP]

https://wikileaks.org/gitmo/prisoner/10024.html

DCI Tenet testified that, “In early January 2000, we managed to obtain a photocopy of al-Mihdhar’s passport as he traveled to Kuala Lumpur.” This gave the CIA al-Mihdhar’s full name, his passport number, and birth information. It also showed that al-Mihdhar held a U.S. visa, issued in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

The DCI told the Joint Inquiry:
"We had at that point the level of detail needed to watchlist [al-Mihdhar] – that is, to nominate him to State Department for refusal of entry into the US or to deny him another visa. Our officers remained focused on the surveillance operation and did not do so.
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Office of the CIA Inspector General:

"At the outset, we note that the CIA has acknowledged that it obtained information that Mihdhar had a U.S. visa and that Hazmi had traveled to the United States, and that the CIA should have placed their names on U.S. watchlists, but that this did not occur. 179*
 The CIA OIG is reviewing this matter to determine why this failure occurred and who is responsible for it.


*179.Mihdhar and Hazmi were placed on watchlists by other countries
http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/s0606/chapter5.htm

SEN. CARL LEVIN: My question is do you know why the FBI Was not notified of the fact that an al-Qaida operative now was known in March of the year 2000 to have entered the United States? Why did the CIA not specifically notify the FBI?

Tenet: It was an information-only cable from the field, and nobody read that information-only cable.


Watch Head of CIA commit perjury During Joint Inquiry hearings here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF38P58-rdo

CIA OIG Report:
 "In the period January through March 2000, some 50 to 60 individuals read one or more of six Agency cables containing travel information related to these terrorists."

https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/Executive%20Summary_OIG%20Report.pdf

CIA OIG Report proved CIA Director committed perjury During Joint Inquiry hearings

"Those documents show that on Aug. 23, 2001, Tenet was given an alarming briefing focusing on Moussaoui, titled “Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly.” Tenet was told that Moussaoui was training to fly a 747 and, among other suspicion-arousing data, had paid for the training in cash."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/08/17/tenet-and-911-a-real-cover-up/

The Director of the CIA also committed perjury during the 9-11 commission hearings. When the FBI in Minnesota was begging to search Zacarias Moussaoui's computer -they asked CIA for info. So after Tenet was given a briefing titled “Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly”, about Moussaoui, he flys down to Texas to see the President in person the next day.

"August 25, 2001
 The CIA briefings, I have on our porch, the end of our porch looking out over the lake. When Tenet came up, that's where we visited, out there. You know, everybody wants to see the ranch, which I'm proud to show it off. So George Tenet and I -- yesterday, we piled in the new nominees for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the Vice Chairman and their wives and went right up the canyon."
-- G Bush
http://web.archive.org/web/20010913060300/http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010825-2.html

Tenet denying he ever saw President in August....

Watch Head of CIA Commit perjury during 9-11 Commission hearings here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cIo33eVSKg

The CIA has never explained this massive costly "failure" on these terrorists and why their arrival in America was kept from other agencies including the counter terrorism czar himself as he explains here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKhw-o9-B1g

But there was another intelligence agency that knew about these terrorists. In fact they and the CIA seemed to share quite a bit. According to Lawrence Wright in his Pulitzer Prize winning book "The Looming Tower"..........

"The CIA already had the names of Mihdhar and Hazmi, however. Saeed Badeeb, Prince Turki's chief analyst in Saudi intelligence, had previously alerted his American colleagues that they were members of al_Qaeda in one of the monthly meetings in Riyadh." page 310
http://www.amazon.com/The-Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road/dp/037541486X

Richard Clarke full interview Produced by Ray Nowosielski and John Duffy can be seen here.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTJu2Q7CVQw

Bob Graham full interview......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHGR4RxZVs

The CIA did their part, now the Saudi Intelligence would do theirs.......What is in the 28 pages of the joint inquiry that were blacked out? We can know some of what is blacked out by studying the FBI reports, and released notes of the 9-11 Commission and filling in the blanks. It's worse than treason. The information wasn't blacked out to avoid war. It was blacked out to have a war-a war against those not involved, and protect and reward those that were involved in the slaughter of 3000 people, over 200 of which made the decision to jump to their deaths or burn....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d3K0QuXL24&feature=player_embedded

(Warning: Upsetting) People jump from World Trade Center RIP Never Forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9QN3AkydYY

Congressional Record: October 28, 2003 (Senate)
Page S13349-S13372

There is a further irony that some of those countries, which are disclosed in the 28 censored pages as having been complicitous with the  terrorists, are among the list of those creditors of Iraq that are going to get this indirect economic benefit.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/s102803.html


* http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_jimd3100_080229_9_2f11___six_years_in_.htm
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on December 29, 2013, 06:33:35 pm
Paul Sperry: “Unger and Moore have their own agendas. mine aligns with the FBI WFO case agents and FCPD* detectives who say they’ll never forgive the Bush admin for throttling their investigation of leads back to Saudi Embassy and Bandar himself in McLean. they view the former POTUS as a traitor.”
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/12/15/murdochs-nypost-today-backs-michael-moore-bush-saudi-claims-from-fahrenheit-911

"On January 15, 2000, Al-Hazmi and Al-Mihdhar flew from Bangkok, Thailand to Los Angeles, Ca, on United Airlines Flight 2".
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-fbi-report-2004-02%28feb%29

They had never been to the U.S. and couldn't speak English. An infrastructure had to be in place already to assist them. This is what those 28 pages deleted from the Joint Inquiry are about. Because it proves that Saudi Arabian Intelligence was behind the infrastructure used to make 9-11 happen after the CIA let them into the country and refused to share information on the terrorists they allowed in with other U.S. Agencies.

Fahad al-Thumairy an administrator at the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Los Angeles with diplomatic status was the contact man for the hijackers when they arrived in America. He set them up with housing on their arrival and supplied them a driver, he then had Saudi Intelligence Agent Omar al-Bayoumi come up to L.A. and together with Saudi Intelligence Agent Osama Basnan, they set up these hijackers in San Diego, got them IDs, housing, and enrolled them in flight schools. Agents Basnan and Bayoumi were being funneled money that they then passed on to the hijackers, from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNXKpihAGM

From FBI 9-11 Investigation:

"Mohdar also reported that the hijackers met several people at the King Fahad mosque including a person identified as "Khallam". According to Mohdar, Khallam visited the hijackers at the hotel that evening. Upon Khallam's arrival, the hijackers asked Mohdar to wait outside. FBI investigation has determined that Mohdar and the hijackers stayed at Deno's Motel on 06/09/2000. Information from FBI New York has revealed that on 12/31/1999, SAID SALEH BIN ATTASH, aka "KHALLAD" was a passenger from Bangkok to Los Angeles. Bin Attash is the alleged mastermind behind the bombing of USS Cole in Aden, Yemen. NewYork indicated that they had no record of Bin Attash actually entering the United States from that flight. New York opined that certain diplomatic arrangements exist at various airports which allow diplomats to meet incoming foreign nationals at the baggage carousels. New York opined that it may have been possible that someone from the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles may have met Khallad and escorted him through customs. Los Angeles can not confirm whether "Khallad" and "Khallam" are identical."
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

"New York opined that it may have been possible that someone from the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles may have met Khallad and escorted him through customs."

This would be Fahad Al-Thumairy.

CIA report confirms Bin Attash in Los Angeles in June 2000

Heavily redacted CIA report:

"Senior Al-Qai'da operative and USS Cole Attack planner TawfIQ Muhhammad Bin Salah Bin Rushayd Bin (Attash) AKA (Khallad Bin Attash), was in the area of Los Angeles, California during June 2000 for approximately two weeks. While in Los Angeles, Bin Attash attended prayer services at a local Los Angeles area Mosque. Bin Attash was seen in the company of several foreign individuals_______________________________________________________________________________________________________Bin Attash was seen in the company of Los Angeles-based Sunni Extremists ____________________________________________Fahad al-(Thumairy)" -- page 96/355
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/CIA-911-Binder1.pdf

FBI Report states the following:

"One or two days after the arrival of the Saudis, Benomrane was at the King Fahad Mosque. While at the mosque Sheik Fahad Al-thumairy introduced Benomrane to the two Saudis and asked Benomrane if he could help them during their time in Los Angeles because they did not speak English. Benomrane agreed and gave the Saudis, his taxi cab business card.

The next day the Saudis called Benomrane and asked him to pick them up and drive them around Los Angeles. Benomrane picked them up at their apartment complex and then drove them around. They then ate at the Mediterranean Restaurant located on Venice Blvd. At the end of the day Benomrane took them back to their apartment complex.

When asked by investigators who else knew about the two Saudis, Benomrane replied that no one at the Kind Fahad Mosque knew about them and that he was told by Sheik Fahad Al-Thumairy to keep the presence of, the two Saudis to himself. Benomrane did say that the Saudi Consulate knew about the two Saudis because it was the consulate that told Sheik Fahad to take care of the Saudis. Benomrane was told by Sheik Fahad that the Saudis were here to see their sick father who was in a local hospital.

During the interview, Benomrane was shown photographs of all the hijackers and numerous photographs of unrelated individuals. Benomrane looked at all the photographs carefully and placed all the photographs in a pile on the left side of the desk. When he viewed the photographs of AI-Mihdhar and AI-Hazmi, he placed the photographs on the right side of the desk."

https://web.archive.org/web/20140114170139/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-25-FBI-fahad-althumairy.pdf

The hijackers lived in L.A. for their first two weeks in America, but Thumairy couldn't have these guys staying with him so he had Agent Bayoumi come up from San Diego to take them off his hands.

Saudi Agent Bayoumi drives to Saudi Consulate in L.A. Meets Saudi Consulate Official Fahad al-Thumairy - Then meets the Hijackers and invites them to San Diego.

"When they arrived at the consulate, al-Bayoumi met with someone behind closed doors. Al-Bayoumi and the person with whom he had traveled to Los Angeles went to a restaurant, where they met al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar. Al-Bayoumi struck up a conversation with al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar after he heard them speaking Arabic, and he invited them to move to San Diego. Al-Bayoumi returned to San Diego after leaving the restaurant, and al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar arrived in San Diego shortly thereafter.
According to another person the FBI interviewed after September 11, al-Bayoumi said before his trip that he was going to Los Angeles to pick up visitors".
- pages 172-173
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

The person with Bayoumi during this trip goes by the name Bin Don..........

"As for the trip to Los Angeles, al-Bayoumi asked Bin Don either one or two days before the two of them actually traveled to Los Angeles if Bin Don would accompany al-Bayoumi to the Saudi Arabian (Saudi)Consulate.
Bin Don said that al-Bayoumi drove his (al-Bayoumi's)automobile to the consulate in Los Angeles.
Bin Don said that al-Bayoumi followed the consulate employee into the offices of the consulate while Bin Don waited in the reception area. After some period of time, al-Bayoumi reappeared carrying a box of Korans and other religious materials. Bin Don and al-Bayoumi left the consulate by returning to al-Bayoumi's automobile.......
After their prayers, al-Bayoumi suggested that they both go to a nearby halal restaurant. Al-Bayoumi drove from the KFM to the restaurant, which Bin Don recalls as being located on Venice Boulevard in Culver City. They found a parking place in front of what al-Bayoumi stated was the restaurant. They went inside and determined that this business was not a restaurant but a halal meat market. The proprietor of the market told al-Bayoumi that there was a halal restaurant a short walk from the market. Al-Bayoumi and Bin Don left the market and walked to the restaurant named the Mediterranean Cafe. Bin Don noted that they did not have to move the automobile."

"Bin Don and al-Bayoumi ordered their food over a counter, in a fashion similar to a fast food restaurant. They then sat in an "alcove" to wait while their food was prepared. While they were waiting at the table, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar walked into the restaurant. Al-Bayoumi asked al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar their names and where they were from. They told al-Bayoumi that they were from Saudi Arabia. The conversation was in Arabic, but al-Bayoumi occasionally translated the responses of al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar into English. Bin Don said that al-Bayoumi offered to buy a meal for the two in the "Islamic tradition.".....Bin Don said that al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar told al-Bayoumi that they were living in an apartment "nearby." Al-Hazmi went on to tell al-Bayoumi that they had just arrived in the United States and were studying English. Bin Don said that the exchange was vague to him, since he only spoke limited Arabic. Al-Bayoumi suggested that the two Saudis come to San Diego, and he and al-Hazmi apparently exchanged telephone numbers. Bin Don was asked if he specifically recalls that al-Hazmi had a telephone, or whether al-Bayoumi only provided his telephone number. Bin Don could not recall the exact sequence. After about thirty minutes al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar left the restaurant. Bin Don said that they did not have a motor vehicle. He does not recall the direction that they walked after leaving the Mediterranean Cafe."

"The next time that Bin Don saw either al-Hazmi or al-Mihdhar was at the Parkwood Apartments on Mt. Ada Avenue in San Diego. Bin Don recalls that al-Bayoumi asked him if he wanted to stop by the apartment of al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar "to see how they were doing." After leaving the apartment, al-Bayoumi mentioned to Bin Don that al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar had visited San Diego previously."

"Bin Don's next contact with al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar occurred when al-Bayoumi invited Bin 'Don over for a party. Upon arriving at al-Bayoumi's residence in the Parkwood Apartments complex, Bin Don was met by al-Bayoumi out front and was told that the party had been moved to what turned out to be al-Hazmi's and al-Mihdhar's apartment. Bin Don understood that the purpose of the party was to welcome al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar to San Diego. Bin Don videotaped the party at the request of al-Bayoumi, using al-Bayoumi's video camera. Some of the guests at the party did not want to be videotaped and Bin Don assumed that this was for religious reasons.......Nawaf al-Hazmi is not videotaped and Bin Don now believes that he (al-Hazmi) asked that he not be videotaped."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19985810/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-Don-Caysan-Bin-42004-00219

"Bin Don said that al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar told al-Bayoumi that they were living in an apartment "nearby."
"Bin Don said that they did not have a motor vehicle. He does not recall the direction that they walked after leaving the Mediterranean Cafe."

The exact location of the Mediterranean Cafe is 10863 Venice Boulevard and the meeting took place on 02/01/2000 as this FBI report shows.....
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

In a not so amazing coincidence Saudi Consulate Fahad Al Thumairy just happened for some reason to have several apartments leased in his name within walking distance.
The Hijackers stayed in an apartment in Los Angeles from the time of their arrival on Jan 15 2000 until they moved to San Diego in early Feb.

"Upon arriving in Los Angeles, al-Thumairy stayed in a hotel close to both the KFM and the Saudi consulate for approximately one week. He then moved into an apartment on Kelton Avenue, near Venice Boulevard. AI-Thumairy said he subsequently moved from this apartment to a house in Culver City on Huron Avenue."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01249.pdf

All within walking distance of the Mediterranean Cafe where Bayoumi meets the Hijackers as this Google map shows Kelton Avenue is about 1 block from the cafe, Huron Avenue is about 4 blocks away and the KFM is a short distance South of the cafe......

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=10863+Venice+Blvd+Los+Angeles,+CA+90034&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80c2ba374da836b5:0xc3887eea8b8fcaa,10863+Venice+Blvd,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90034&gl=us&ei=n8G8Uq7cDsLr2QWMuIBg&ved=0CCkQ8gEwAA

FBI Investigation report that Saudi Officials are contact men for 9/11 terrorists

"FBI Los Angeles Investigative Results:
Los Angeles has determined that __________may be a potential contact of the hijackers and __________ in Los Angeles. ________is an administrative officer at the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles and may have diplomatic status. _________is also believed to be one of the Imans at the King Fahad mosque.___________also fits the description, as provided_____________of the individual that ____________met at the Saudi consulate prior to _____________"chance" meeting with the hijackers at the restaurant."

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-09-04-FBI-Fahad-Al-Thumairy.pdf

Source from:
9/4/2002: FBI Information Control Sheet, Fahad Al-Thumairy
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-09-04-FBI-Fahad-Al-Thumairy.pdf

Fahad al-Thumairy is the name being deleted as the potential contact of the hijackers. Fahad al-Thumairy was an administrative officer at the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles, Bin Don provided the description that Bayoumi met at the Saudi consulate prior to his "chance" meeting with the hijackers. Fahad al-Thumairy's name appears no where in the unclassified version of the joint inquiry. Therefore Fahad al-Thumairy is mentioned in the 28 pages that have been censured from the joint inquiry. Which is why the Chairman of the Joint inquiry that investigated the attacks and had 28 pages of their report blacked out by the CIA under orders of President Bush said this.....

“I am convinced that there was direct line between at least some of the terrorists who carried out the September 11th attacks and the government of Saudi Arabia, and that a Saudi government agent living in the United States, Omar al Bayoumi, provided direct assistance to September 11th hijackers Nawaf al Hazmi and Khalid al Mihdhar. Based on the evidence discovered by the Joint Inquiry, I further believe that al Bayoumi was acting at the direction of elements of the Saudi government and that an official from the Islamic and Cultural Affairs section of the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles, Fahad al Thumairy, likely played some role in the support network for the 9/11 Attacks.” – Former U.S. Senator Bob Graham
http://blog.motleyrice.com/former-senator-graham-declares-belief-that-kingdom-of-saudi-arabia-supported-the-911-hijackers/

After Thumairy has Agent Bayoumi move the hijackers to San Diego. Bayoumi attempts to cover up for their stay in L.A. with Thumairy, when he fills out their rental application. He also has their rent paid.

From FBI Investigation:

"AL-Bayoumi filled out the rental applications in the names of Khalid, Nawaf, and himself, and listed his own address as the previous residence of both Khalid and Nawaf even though they had never lived there. Khalid and Nawaf each signed their own signatures on the applications, and Al-Bayoumi signed his own signature on the application and as guarantor."
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2003-08-18-FBI-FD302-omar-al-bayoumi.pdf

9/11 Commission report pretends Bayoumi wasn't covering the role Thumairy played housing the hijackers in Los Angeles as their contact in America

The hijackers were in L.A. from the time of their arrival on Jan 15 till their move to San Diego in early Feb.

9-11 Commission report:

"The rental application states that Hazmi and Mihdhar resided in Bayoumi's apartment from January 15 to Feb 2, 2000 but Bayoumi denies it, and we have found no reason to dispute his denial. According to Bayoumi, he was in such a hurry to complete the rental transactions that he signed the application form without reading it."
http://books.google.com/books?id=w_OCDdPk1ssC&pg=PA516&lpg=PA516&dq=The+rental+application+states+that+Hazmi+and+Mihdhar+resided+in+Bayoumi%27s+apartment&source=bl&ots=saZaTQ99XA&sig=E50j2OytLlWAkcZ6kOMeOKX1RiE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EIe3Uq3hDeGqyAGxxoHABQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The%20rental%20application%20states%20that%20Hazmi%20and%20Mihdhar%20resided%20in%20Bayoumi's%20apartment&f=false

Try that sometime and see if you get away with it. Lie on an application, and if you get caught just say you didn't bother reading what you wrote. Bayoumi is the one that filled out their application.

Agent Bayoumi then gets a giant "raise" when he enrolls them into flight school. Flight schools aren't cheap you know...

FBI report:

"Al-Hazmi and Khalid Al-Mihdhar attended introductory flight lessons in April/May of 2000 in California but after experiencing language difficulties, they stopped attending."
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-fbi-report-2004-02%28feb%29

At that same time Bayoumi was given a raise of over $3000 a month.....

"In April 2000, Bayoumi received a promotion and his status was also adjusted from "single" to "married" (despite the fact that he was already married)"
http://books.google.com/books?id=w_OCDdPk1ssC&pg=PA516&lpg=PA516&dq=The+rental+application+states+that+Hazmi+and+Mihdhar+resided+in+Bayoumi%27s+apartment&source=bl&ots=saZaTQ99XA&sig=E50j2OytLlWAkcZ6kOMeOKX1RiE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EIe3Uq3hDeGqyAGxxoHABQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The%20rental%20application%20states%20that%20Hazmi%20and%20Mihdhar%20resided%20in%20Bayoumi's%20apartment&f=false

Agent Basnan was also living next door to the hijackers and assisting them, he is being paid by Prince Bandar and funneling the money to the hijackers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNXKpihAGM

FBI Agent who investigated Basnan;

"Event: Interview of FBI Special Agent __________

_________was subsequently officially assigned to a counter-terrorism squad investigating Osama Basnan, _______,_________and Diah Thabet for about 1.5 years.

There was a roomful of people present at the location where he was pursuing that lead, and as he was about to leave he asked whether anybody had any information possibly related to the 9/11 attacks, ________was in the back of the room, and he silently nodded "yes."

__________told ________that he knew somebody named Osama LNU(Last name unknown)who was very radical and whom ______had a gut feeling might have had something to do with the attacks. ________also provided a phone number for Osama LNU.

________did some initial research and determined that the individual ________was talking about was Osama Basnan. ___________{9/11 classified information}________-also found an FBI document describing extremist jihadi materials that were found in a car registered to Basnan in the Virginia area. _______decided to do some initial investigation regarding Basnan.

For instance, he played down his relationship with Omar Al-Bayoumi, stating that he did not know him very well.......According to _________Bayoumi and Basnan are the closest of friends. ________moreover, has corroborated this account. Furthermore, _____stated, phone records reveal roughly 700 calls between various phones subscribed to by Bayoumi and Basnan over a one year period(even discounting some of the calls in view of the friendship between their wives, the calls between their cell phones are most likely between the two men).

__________remarked that he was recently reviewing an interview report from 10/30/01 of George Harb, his landlord, and noticed that Harb received a page on 2/15/00 from a telephone number that turns out to be that of Omar al-Bayoumi's cell phone. However, in his interview, Harb stated that when he returned the page, he spoke with Nawaf al-Hazmi. ________found this significant because it suggests either Bayoumi was helping the hijackers make housing arrangements other than Parkwood or that the hijackers were at least using Bayoumi's cell phone during this period.

________stated that he was 98% sure that the hijackers were likely using Bayoumi's cell phone during the first couple of months of 2000 and therefor the calls from that phone should be analyzed carefully........_______noted that there are numerous calls to numbers that have never been investigated, and he believed this should be an issue of grave concern. Who were the hijackers potentially contacting at this time?"

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458

"Who were the hijackers potentially contacting at this time?"

Well this FBI report says they were contacting Saudi Officials in Washington DC and Los Angeles California. If they weren't then Bayoumi was.

"Omar Al Bayoumi
 Employed by Dallah al Baraka

A review of the following calls indicate a total 141 calls made by telephone numbers associated with _________to entities of the Saudi Arabian government in the Washington D.C. Area.

In connection with calls made to entities of the Saudi Arabian government in the Los Angeles, California area, there were 34 calls made."

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-04-15-FBI-LHM-omar-al-bayoumi2.pdf

Back to the FBI Agent investigating Basnan....

"When asked whether there were any other 9/11 leads he found interesting, ________stated that one interesting fact is that Osama Basnan's_________________________was in phone and e-mail contact with Ramzi Binalshibh in September 2000.

______also stated that another interesting lead concerned an individual named ______._______had connections with Basnan and other relevant subjects and had attended flight training. He lived in San Diego at the same time as the 9/11 hijackers, and he also attended the ICSD. In an interview dated 11/9/01, a flight instructor recounted how on May 23 of that year _______had been asking a lot of suspicious questions about radar coverage during a tour of a local aviation facility."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458

FBI Investigation reports reveal Osama Basnan as working for Saudi Intelligence:

"The possibility of ____________being affiliated with the Saudi Arabian Government or the Saudi Arabian Intelligence Service is supported by ________________Listing his employment in 1992 as the___________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________.
 On October 17, 1992 ___________hosted a party at his house in Washington D.C. for Sheik Omar Rahman, convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Towers bombing.

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-03-FBI-penttbomb-bayoumi.pdf

I know this is Basnan they are referring to because of this in the Joint Inquiry....

"In 1993, the FBI received reports that Bassnan had hosted a party for the “Blind Sheikh” in Washington, D.C. in 1992. However, the FBI did not open an investigation]." pages 178-179
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Also in the joint inquiry, Basnan, the person Bandar Bush has sent thousands of dollars to.....

"After September 11, the FBI developed information clearly indicating that Bassnan is an extremist and a Bin Ladin supporter." -page 177
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Also from the joint inquiry, on our Saudi friend Bayoumi.....

"Since September 11, the FBI has learned that al-Bayoumi has connections to terrorist elements". - page 173

Despite the fact that he was a student, al-Bayoumi had access to seemingly unlimited funding from Saudi Arabia. For example, an FBI source identified al-Bayoumi as the person who delivered $400,000 from Saudi Arabia for the Kurdish mosque in San Diego. One of the FBI’s best sources in San Diego informed the FBI that he thought that al-Bayoumi must be an intelligence officer for Saudi Arabia or another foreign power.--page 174
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

The title of this Amazing FBI report is called........

"Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects to the Government of Saudi Arabia"
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2006-04-25-xx-FBI-San-Diego-Saudi-links-PENTTBOMB.pdf

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2006-04-25-FBI-San-Diego-Saudi-links-PENTTBOMB.pdf

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi.pdf

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

Although heavily redacted they are describing Agents Basnan and Bayoumi and their connections to Bandar.

Remember those flights the Saudis took immediately after the attacks?

"BOISE, Idaho -- A Saudi graduate student at the University of Idaho was indicted yesterday on charges he supplied his computer expertise to terrorist groups. Prosecutors said Sami Omar Al-Hussayen, 33, put together Web sites to recruit members and raise money for Muslim terrorist activities. He was charged with providing material support to terrorism.
 Extensive electronic surveillance revealed that he "had contacts with people that are al-Qaida and al-Qaida associates ... people we would consider very significant in UBL's arena," a federal criminal justice source told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer shortly after his arrest. UBL is a law enforcement acronym for Osama bin Laden.

"He's in touch with people who could pick up the phone, call UBL, and he would take the call."

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Student-indicted-in-terror-inquiry-1134243.php

he wasn't on them, but his Uncle was....

"Saleh Hussayen is a prominent Saudi government official who fell under suspicion following the Sept 11th attacks when it was discovered that three of the hijackers, Hani Hanjour, Khalid Almihdhar, and Nawaf Alhazmi had checked into the Marriott Residence Inn in Herndon, Virginia, the same hotel he was staying at, the night before the attacks.

He was questioned by the FBI shortly after the attacks, but reportedly feigned a seizure during the interview and was taken to a nearby hospital where it was reported he was in perfect health. Since then, no complicity has been proven and it remains murky whether his meeting with the hijackers was coincidental."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saleh_Ibn_Abdul_Rahman_Hussayen#cite_note-3

The FBI Agent who interviewed Saleh al-Hussayen on the evening  of September 11 speaks....

"Interview of FBI Special Agent _________

________participated in one interview of Saleh al-Hussayen.
 _________received a lead that Hussayen stayed in the same hotel as some of the hijackers prior to 9/11. Before interviewing him, ___{9/11 classified information}___________________. She also determined that he had a connection to _______.
 As his wife was speaking with ____________noticed that Hussayen was muttering and drooping his head. _________asked if he was OK. His wife dismissed her concerns and said he was fine.
 __________called the paramedics. When the paramedics arrived, they asked _______if Hussayen could have been "faking it."
 Hussayen was taken to the hospital."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19991624/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-48-10903-00522

While at the hospital the FBI agent continued speaking with the wife......

"She said that she and her husband had come to the U.S. for a "holiday."
 His wife stated that Hussayen had a "brother" in Idaho, but they did not visit him. His wife also stated that while in the Washington, DC area, she and her husband did not visit any monuments or museums, which __________thought was odd.
 When _____________asked her how and why she had a Virginia drivers license, she stated that she thought it would be a good "souvenir," that she had got it on 9/10/01, and that a friend of theirs or __________helped her get it.

At the hospital, _________asked Hussayen's wife whether she thought her husband could have been involved with the events of 9/11 in any way. The wife responded, "I don't know,"__________found this response extremely unusual.

Hussayen was released from the hospital within 2 hours, which led _______to believe that whatever his condition it would not have been that serious.

__________thought it significant that the couple had traveled to several cities and met with numerous individuals but the wife did not know who they were or what her husband discussed with them; that Hussayen's wife wanted a Virginia driver's license as a "souvenir,"and that Hussayen's severe reaction started when ________had asked his wife why they moved to the hotel where they were staying at the time of the interview. Hussayen's wife said that they had moved to that hotel from another in the area because they wanted a kitchenette, but ___________found that explanation suspicious in view of the fact that there was nothing in the fridge nor any indication that the kitchenette had been used at all."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19991624/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-48-10903-00522

He was just one of several suspicious Saudis flying out of the country as soon as possible......

"On September 19, 2001, once the ban on International flights had been lifted, Hussayen was allowed to leave the United States and return to Saudi Arabia. Five months later he joined the Saudi government as President of the Affairs of the Holy Mosques Masjid al-Haram (Grand Mosque) in Mecca and Al-Masjid al-Nabawi (Prophet's Mosque) in Medina."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saleh_Ibn_Abdul_Rahman_Hussayen#cite_note-3

FBI documents reveal more about these flights........

"Event: On 9/19/01 A 727 plane left LAX, Ryan FLT #441 To Orlando FL W/ETA of 4-5PM.
The Plane was Chartered either by the Saudi Arabian Royalty Family or Osama Bin Laden."
page 3/224
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2007/Saudi%20Docs%202.pdf

That was one flight. There were several, including this one.....

"The Saudi Arabian group was headed by H.R.H. Prince Ahmed Bin Salman Bin Abdulaziz" page 11/224
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2007/Saudi%20Docs%202.pdf

Who is Prince Ahmed Bin Salman Bin Abdulaziz?

"By March 2002, the terrorist called Abu Zubaydah was one of the most wanted men on earth.

Zubaydah's capture and interrogation, told in a gripping narrative that reads like a techno-thriller, did not just take down one of al-Qaeda's most wanted operatives but also unexpectedly provided what one U.S. investigator told Posner was "the Rosetta stone of 9/11 ... the details of what (Zubaydah) claimed was his 'work' for senior Saudi and Pakistani officials."

...cia men flew Zubaydah to an Afghan complex fitted out as a fake Saudi jail chamber, where "two Arab-Americans, now with Special Forces," pretending to be Saudi inquisitors, used drugs and threats to scare him into more confessions.

Yet when Zubaydah was confronted by the false Saudis, writes Posner, "his reaction was not fear, but utter relief." Happy to see them, he reeled off telephone numbers for a senior member of the royal family who would, said Zubaydah, "tell you what to do." The man at the other end would be Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdul Aziz, a Westernized nephew of King Fahd's and a publisher better known as a racehorse owner. His horse War Emblem won the Kentucky Derby in 2002. To the amazement of the U.S., the numbers proved valid. When the fake inquisitors accused Zubaydah of lying, he responded with a 10-minute monologue laying out the Saudi-Pakistani-bin Laden triangle."

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030908-480226,00.html

When the CIA was asked by the 9-11 commission about this, they destroyed Zubaydah's videotapped interrogation and ignored the Commissions questions............

"Late in its investigation, reacting to press allegations that Abu Zubaydah had referred to a Saudi prince in his interrogations, the Commission asked “what information does the CIA have” about whether such assertions were made in Zubaydah’s interrogations. (CIA Question for the Record No. 3, dated May 20, 2004). We knew the CIA believed this was untrue but we asked the question formally to get any relevant information for the record. We cannot find a record of a CIA response."
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20071222-INTEL-MEMO.pdf

The 9-11 Commission meets with our Saudi friends.....

"Meeting with Deputy Foreign Minister Nizar Madani
 Location: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Riyadh

Philip Zelikow began with an overview of the Commission's work and asked questions on the Kingdom's willingness and capacity to fight terrorism, both before and after September 11 2001.

Nizar expressed disbelief about the allegations regarding Princess Haifa, noting that it was preposterous that she was involved in terrorism. Zelikow expressed understanding of this position and explained that the interest was primarily due to the unclear role of Osama Bassnan - if the Commission could learn more about his role, everything could be put in a clearer perspective."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20556754/MFR-NARA-NA-Saudi-Arabia-Madani-Nizar-10-15-03-01186

Their interview with Basnan didn't go well.....

"The interview failed to yield any new information of note. Instead, in the writer's opinion, it established beyond cavil the witness' utter lack of credibility on virtually every material subject."
https://research.archives.gov/id/2610794

Their meeting with Thumairy didn't go well either......

From their interview with Thumairy:

"Notably, without being asked, Thumairy volunteered that he did not find an apartment for these visitors or make any reservations for them. He also denied recognizing the names Qualid Moncef Benomrane and Mohdar Abdullah. AI-Thumairy stated that he did not recognize the name Omar al-Bayoumi. When shown a photo of al-Bayoumi, al-Thumairy first denied recognizing him. At this time, Major Khalid whispered something to him in Arabic, and Thumairy said in English, Oh, Bayoumi." Al-Thumairy then acknowledged that he recognized al-Bayoumi because he had seen him on television, but he denied ever seeing him in Los Angeles."

"Despite being confronted with these facts, al-Thumairy continued to deny knowing al- Bayoumi."

http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01249.pdf

They had two interviews with Thumairy....

9-11 commission second interview with Thumairy:

"At this point, al-Thumairy was asked again about Omar al-Bayoumi. Al-Thumairy was reminded that at his interview the previous night, he had initially denied recognizing al- Bayoumi until Major Khalid said something to him, which was when he acknowledged recognizing al-Bayoumi from the media. AI-Thumairy was also informed that we have information that shows numerous phone calls between him and al-Bayoumi over a short period in December 1999, from both al-Thumairy's cell and landline phones. Finally, al-Thumairy was told that since speaking with him the prior night, we were told by another witness [i.e. Khalil al-Khalil] that he had been seen meeting with al-Bayoumi on several occasions at the KFM. Despite being confronted with these facts, al-Thumairy continued to deny knowing al- Bayoumi."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01249.pdf

"Our general impression of Thumairy is that he was deceptive during both interviews."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01240.pdf

Their meeting with Saud al-Rasheed didn't go well either..

"We believe that al-Rasheed was being deceptive. His our impression that he has had enough time to develop a coherent story and is sticking to it (and that he even may have been coached at some point)."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01240.pdf

For info on him see....
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=51281.msg1452995#msg1452995

At the very same time that investigators were discovering how Saudi Arabian government officials were directly involved in the 9-11 attacks President Bush and his administration made it against the law to tell the truth by classifying the information in order to point the finger at Iraq...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OMI_rNWDrs>

After America is Attacked (by design)by their Ally Saudi Arabia and their other Ally Israel monitors and documents the event, The U.S. Military Industrial Complex send Americans' tax dollars down the toilet spending trillions of dollars and sending thousands of young patriots to their deaths protecting Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Government thinks it has a right to privacy and you have none The American people have been scammed by traitors and it's time to pay the piper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJ--Z3lvaQ

Prince Bandar on PBS, 1 month after the 9-11 attacks, speaking of Bin Laden and his infrastructure:

Original Airdate: October 11, 2001
LOWELL BERGMAN: So have- did you underestimate him, the way we have apparently underestimated him?
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: We underestimated the power of the people around him that created this- what we see today, yes.
LOWELL BERGMAN: The infrastructure.
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: Infrastructure that was developed. And it is not his infrastructure.
LOWELL BERGMAN: Whose is it?
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: I think it's the brain child of the people around him. One of them is this Egyptian, al-Zawahiri, and-
LOWELL BERGMAN: Because he's-
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: He is- I think he's more educated, more trained for that. He was part of a jihad organization in Egypt. And that's the same group who planned the assassination of President Sadat and all the trouble that went into Egypt. And I think they he- he had the brain to bring specialists, if you want, in different areas. And now we discover maybe we should not have underestimated. Maybe- maybe we should have paid more attention to how far an evil brain can go.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terrorism/etc/script.html

LOL! Yea, the Infrastructure that allowed the 9-11 attacks to happen wasn't set up by CIA and Saudi Intelligence, it was all set up by Zawahiri. Right!
(http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/George-Bush-and-Prince-Bandar-via-Wikimedia.jpg)
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Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on January 13, 2014, 06:57:31 pm
SEN. CARL LEVIN: My question is do you know why the FBI Was not notified of the fact that an al-Qaida operative now was known in March of the year 2000 to have entered the United States? Why did the CIA not specifically notify the FBI?

Tenet: It was an information-only cable from the field, and nobody read that information-only cable.


Watch Head of CIA commit perjury During Joint Inquiry hearings here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF38P58-rdo

CIA OIG Report:
 "In the period January through March 2000, some 50 to 60 individuals read one or more of six Agency cables containing travel information related to these terrorists."

https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/Executive%20Summary_OIG%20Report.pdf

CIA OIG Report proved CIA Director committed perjury During Joint Inquiry hearings

Lawrence Wright is the author of the Pulitzer Prize winning book The Looming Tower

January 13, 2014
The Al Qaeda Switchboard

by Lawrence Wright

The C.I.A. withheld crucial intelligence from the F.B.I., which has the ultimate authority to investigate terrorism in the U.S. and attacks on Americans abroad.

The C.I.A. had access to the intelligence, and knew that Al Qaeda was in the U.S. almost two years before 9/11. An investigation by the C.I.A.’s inspector general found that up to sixty people in the agency knew that Al Qaeda operatives were in America. The inspector general said that those who refused to coöperate with the F.B.I. should be held accountable. Instead, they were promoted.

But questions remain about how the C.I.A. handled events leading up to 9/11. What did the agency intend to do about the Al Qaeda operatives in America?

Edward Snowden broke the law, and the Obama Administration has demanded that he be brought to justice. No one has died because of his revelations. The C.I.A.’s obstruction of justice in the Cole investigation arguably also was a crime. Its failure to share information from the Al Qaeda switchboard opened the door to the biggest terrorist attack in history. As long as we’re talking about accountability, why shouldn’t we demand it of the C.I.A.?

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2014/01/13/140113taco_talk_wright
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on March 09, 2014, 08:17:45 pm
March 8, 2014

Two congressmen concerned about a government censoring of Saudi Arabia’s alleged role in the 9/11 attacks will hold a press conference this week with families of the victims to step up pressure on the White House to declassify the information.

Three months ago, Reps. Walter Jones (R-NC) and Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) introduced a resolution urging President Obama to follow through on his campaign promise to 9/11 families to release the censored section of a 2002 congressional report on the attacks.

Their Dec. 2 bill, which has attracted six co-sponsors, was referred to the House Intelligence Committee, where it languishes. Panel chair Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) decides whether it will move on to a vote.

Jones says they hope to attract at least 10 more co-sponsors to compel the committee to take up the measure.

Jones said, “They’ve all read the [censored] 28 pages and they have joined and agree with the families that they should be made public,” he added. “The families have a right to the 28 pages and so do the American people.”

President Bush mysteriously classified part of the “Joint Inquiry Into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001.”

“If these pages are declassified,” Jones said, “it would be an important revelation to the American people.”

Surprisingly, few members of Congress have read the classified section of arguably the most important investigation in US history.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on March 09, 2014, 09:13:45 pm
March 8, 2014

Two congressmen concerned about a government censoring of Saudi Arabia’s alleged role in the 9/11 attacks will hold a press conference this week with families of the victims to step up pressure on the White House to declassify the information.

Thanks for the update!
link to article...
http://nypost.com/2014/03/08/victim-families-release-secret-saudi-911-report/

March 8, 2014
President Bush mysteriously classified part of the “Joint Inquiry Into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001.”

Not so "mysterious", when Bush and his Saudi buddies who were directly involved in the attack both wanted the United States to spend it's money and blood attacking Iraq.

Quote
“If these pages are declassified,” Jones said, “it would be an important revelation to the American people.”

The American people are to stupid and apathetic to even realize this is a disgusting, treasonous, cover up that's been under their noses for years, nor will they realize the extent to which they've been scammed. But yes, it should be declassified - and when it is - is any politician going to have the guts to insist Bush and others be tried for treason?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjuu89B-Myc

Here is just one receipt -over $11 million - that Bandar Bush spent in the U.S. to snow people with PR on Saudi Arabia after the 9-11 attacks......

 http://www.fara.gov/docs/5483-Exhibit-AB-20021213-H7DTSB03.pdf


Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on March 14, 2014, 03:36:25 pm
March 8, 2014

Two congressmen concerned about a government censoring of Saudi Arabia’s alleged role in the 9/11 attacks will hold a press conference this week with families of the victims to step up pressure on the White House to declassify the information.

“If these pages are declassified,” Jones said, “it would be an important revelation to the American people.”

The Press conference...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQBblolKU-g
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on August 20, 2014, 04:56:55 pm
Rep. Jones: 'No Hope for America's Future' Without Declassification of 9/11 Secrets


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_DC3SmdAI#t=418

Audio Interview of Ron Paul:

Updated: August 20, 2014  by Ron Paul
Exposing the Truth of the 9/11 Report
http://www.voicesofliberty.com/audio/exposing-the-truth-of-the-911-commission-report/

You, as an American, deserve to know the information concealed in these 28 pages. And the only way to make that information public is to call on members of Congress to support H. Res. 428., which would make public those pages of the “Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 2001” report.

We are calling on you to make your voice heard.

http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/declassify-the-28-redacted-pages-of-the-911-commission-report/
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: shure on August 28, 2014, 04:16:34 pm
Why are the 28 Pages just as important today?

Our Terrorist Friends the Saudi's -
http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/5163309/1/

Syrian Chemical Attack and the Saudi's -
http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/5217162/1/

Mass murder in the Middle East is funded by our friends the Saudi's -
http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/5313769/1/


That's why.



Thank you, jimd!!!

#Declassify
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on August 29, 2014, 07:38:18 am
Mahmoud Darkazanli knew the jihadi cell in Hamburg that contained Atta and co. I believe that when he was arrested they found the phone number of 54 marianstrasse programmed into his phone and also that he was recorded at a wedding the terrorists went to.

When Darkazanli visited Spain he met with two people. One was Imad Yarkas, the head of al-Qaeda in Spain, who was under surveillance by authorities. The other though was a Saudi man named Mohammed Galeb Kalaje Zouaydi.

Zouaydi was an accountant for a very important Saudi Prince named Prince Mohammed al-Faisal al-Saud, who is considered the father of Islamic Banking and Finance.

Prince al-Saud's company Dar Al-Maal Al-Islami owned part of Al-Shamal bank in Sudan which was co-founded by Osama bin Laden.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on September 16, 2014, 10:39:18 am
Interview with Lawrence Wright author of The Looming Tower.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYG4a7bWOY
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jofortruth on September 16, 2014, 11:00:32 am
More you should know about Bandar Bush (called that due to Bush associations):
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=6780


Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on September 16, 2014, 11:50:34 am
Interview with Lawrence Wright author of The Looming Tower.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYG4a7bWOY

Lawrence Wright: "The suit against the Saudis alleges that some of that money found it's way into the hands of the hijackers, the FBI wasn't able to establish that"

http://youtu.be/9kYG4a7bWOY?t=6m55s

Actually it appears that the FBI handler for the informant who was housing these same hijackers established exactly that. It's what part of the 28 missing pages are about....

Government officials told U.S. News that Butler disclosed that he had been monitoring a flow of Saudi Arabian money that wound up in the hands of two of the 9/11 hijackers. The two men had rented a room from a man Butler had used as a confidential informant, the sources say. According to officials familiar with his account, Butler said that he had alerted his superiors about the money flows but the warning went nowhere. "Butler is claiming ... that people [in the FBI] didn't follow up," says a congressional source. Adds another: "He saw a pattern, a trail, and he told his supervisors, but it ended there."
http://web.archive.org/web/20021201191949/http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/features/saudi_021129.htm

Several members were "appalled" at what informed sources described as the "explosive" testimony of Special Agent Steven Butler, who recently retired from the FBI after his final posting in the bureau's San Diego field office.

After Butler testified, Eleanor Hill, the staff director for the 9/11 committee, detailed his statements in a memo to the Justice Department. Justice officials, saying Butler's testimony is classified, declined comment.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021201191949/http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/features/saudi_021129.htm

I filed a MDR with the Justice Department to declassify this memo. They responded that they don't know anything about this memo. Erik Larson moderator at 911blogger tried a FOIA request on this memo and got the same result. I then contacted Eleanor Hill myself to tell her this and she said she can't tell me anything because it's all classified but then asked me if I had read Bob Grahams book "Intelligence Matters" and I said I had read it. She said he was very upset that this was being kept from the American people and she then told me that the Senate Intelligence Committee should have a copy of everything including that memo.

In Summary:

L. Wright: "The suit against the Saudis alleges that some of that money found it's way into the hands of the hijackers"

FBI Handler of Informant housing these hijackers: "Butler disclosed that he had been monitoring a flow of Saudi Arabian money that wound up in the hands of two of the 9/11 hijackers."

The Evidence: "Eleanor Hill, the staff director for the 9/11 committee, detailed his statements in a memo to the Justice Department."

The Cover up: FBI: "Memo?,... What Memo?"

L. Wright: "the FBI wasn't able to establish that"

Advice to Lawrence Wright.......Contact Eleanor Hill, and/or Former Agent Butler, and/or see if you can get a copy of this memo.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: One Revelator on September 16, 2014, 12:15:09 pm
Interview with Lawrence Wright author of The Looming Tower.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYG4a7bWOY

“Twenty-eight pages of a joint congressional inquiry into the 9/11 attacks were classified by the George W. Bush administration, which claimed they contained information that would hurt the war on terror.

Interesting way to word it. Yes, it would hinder the war. Might even bring it to an end. Spent so much time planning this war out. Much money to be made. Wouldn’t want to end it now.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 16, 2014, 12:28:44 pm
Funding of the hijackers in the US , came via the Saudi embassy banking via Riggs Bank ....

the financial investigation of Riggs Bank has forever withheld the Saudi money accounts information in regards to 9/11  ...


http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=78572.0
BAE Systems - bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks 
...

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/ACF5F8.pdf
Released JULY 15, 2004

...

The followup to be done by Sen R-ME Susan Collins was squashed (by who - Cheney?) and never revealed or released. You can search around as to the fact that the public investigation was dropped.
(take a look at:  http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3426bae_cheney.html Will BAE Scandal of Century Bring Down Dick Cheney)

Here is the bulk of where the Saudi accounts are mentioned:

In 2003, after uncovering extremely troubling information in connection with accounts associated with Saudi Arabia, the OCC took its first enforcement action against the bank, issuing a cease and desist order requiring it to revamp its AML program.

For example, the OCC’s in-depth review of the Saudi accounts followed press articles that began appearing in November 2002, suggesting links between certain Riggs accounts and the 9-11 terrorist attack. This examination resulted in the OCC’s identifying the same deficiencies as in earlier years, but in contrast to the agency’s prior willingness to rely on promises by the bank to improve, the OCC issued a public cease and desist order requiring corrective action Riggs’ two largest Embassy clients were Equatorial Guinea and Saudi Arabia. Only a few other banks, such as Wachovia National Bank and Congressional Bank, are also engaged in Embassy Banking.

2003 Saudi Targeted Examination.

About a month after the Board meeting, beginning on November 22, 2002, media stories reported that a Riggs account associated with the Embassy of Saudi Arabia had allegedly sent funds that ended up benefitting two of the
Saudi terrorists involved in the 9-11 attack on the United States, and the FBI was investigating.
293

Other accounts at Riggs present equally troubling facts, most notably the more than 150 accounts
associated with Saudi Arabia. These Saudi accounts are the subject of an ongoing investigation by the full
Committee on Governmental Affairs.


30 The full Committee on Governmental Affairs is conducting an investigation of the accounts opened by
Riggs for Saudi officials. Because this review is ongoing under the direction of Committee Chairman Susan Collins, this Report does not present information about the Saudi accounts.

...


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http://www.larouchepac.com/node/9945
...
Prince Bandar and Princess Haifa denied they played any role  in financing the 9/11 hijackers, and claimed that they were merely providing charitable assistance to the Saudi community in the United States. The co-chairs of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time, Robert Graham (D-Fla.) and Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), accused the FBI of failing to fully pursue this '9/11 money trail.' Sources told EIR that the FBI refused to allow the committee to interview the FBI investigators who had probed the Basnan and al-Bayoumi links.

"While Congressional and law enforcement sources insist to EIR investigators that all available leads were pursued and no compelling evidence of Saudi involvement in 9/11 was established, other U.S. intelligence sources maintain that many fruitful areas of investigation simply reached dead-ends before any final conclusions could be drawn. And these sources report that some of the Al-Yamamah funds, including some funds that passed through the Riggs Bank accounts in Washington, financed a migration of Muslim Brotherhood members to the United States, throughout the 1980s and 1990s. That hardly constitutes a smoking gun, these sources emphasize, but raises serious unanswered questions, particularly in light of the fact that the official staff reports of the 9/11 Commission featured a detailed debriefing of Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, the purported mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, who admitted that he had been a member of the Muslim Brotherhood since he was 16 years old."

Since the publication of that EIR exclusive, new details have emerged, which beg for answers. The San Diego apartment where 9/11 hijackers Alhazmi and Almihdhar lived, was rented by an FBI informant, who received a reported $3,500 per month from the Bureau for keeping tabs on the local Muslim community, according to one U.S. intelligence source interviewed recently by EIR. The fact that two of the 9/11 hijackers lived under the same roof as an FBI snitch is still a source of great internal turmoil at the FBI, according to the source.

And this has also created a tremendous backlash against former FBI Director Louis Freeh, who is now the attorney for Prince Bandar, as the latter tries to clear his name of any wrongdoing in the Al-Yamamah and 9/11 affairs.

Freeh, who was FBI Director at the time of the 9/11 attack, and resigned soon afterwards, appeared on the Frontline broadcast, to vociferously defend his client against any charges of wrongdoing. According to one source close to the BAE probe, Bandar hired Freeh to be his personal attorney, long before his name surfaced in the Al-Yamamah context. "What is certain," one Washington source with detailed knowledge of the 9/11 probe told EIR, "is that there are a whole lot of current and former FBI agents who are furious at Louis Freeh, for his efforts to whitewash Prince Bandar."

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also:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-108hhrg95062/html/CHRG-108hhrg95062.htm

 RISK MANAGEMENT AND REGULATORY FAILURES AT RIGGS BANK AND UBS:   LESSONS LEARNED
 JUNE 2, 2004
...

  After 9/11, the OCC escalated its supervisory efforts to bring Riggs' compliance program to a level commensurate with the risks that were undertaken by the bank. In 2002, the OCC conducted a series of anti-terrorist financing reviews at our large or high-risk banks, including Riggs. As a result of these reviews and other internal assessments, plus published reports of suspicious money transfers involving the Saudi Embassy accounts, our concerns regarding Riggs' anti-money laundering program were heightened. Thus we conducted another examination of Riggs in January 2003.

    The focus of that examination was on Riggs' embassy banking  business and, in particular, the Saudi Embassy accounts. The  examination lasted for approximately 5 months and involved agency experts in the BSA and anti-money laundering area. It disclosed serious BSA compliance program deficiencies that resulted in the bank's failure to identify and report suspicious transactions occurring in the Saudi Embassy accounts.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on October 03, 2014, 04:26:39 pm
The American people are to stupid and apathetic to even realize this is a disgusting, treasonous, cover up that's been under their noses for years, nor will they realize the extent to which they've been scammed. But yes, it should be declassified - and when it is - is any politician going to have the guts to insist Bush and others be tried for treason?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjuu89B-Myc

October 02, 2014
Stephen Lynch an unlikely hero of conspiracy theorists

Only 17 members have cosponsored the resolution proposed last December by Lynch and Representative Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, which calls for release on grounds that “the families of the victims and the people of the United States deserve answers about the events and circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001, attacks.”

In the meantime, the quest is making for some strange bedfellows. Lynch has become a hero of sorts to conspiracy theorists who assert US government complicity in the worst terrorist attacks in American history.

Some of them, according to Lynch, show up at his town hall meetings to ask about the secret pages and interrupt the events to discuss their multiple theories about what really happened on 9/11, including that Israel was to blame for the terrorist attacks.

But the hawkish Lynch, who chairs a congressional task force on terrorist financing and is a member of the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform, is no conspiracy theorist. And he is quick to distance himself from such groups, whose members he says suffer from “some sort of glitch.”

But on the issue of the infamous 28 pages, they are in lock step. And Lynch is not alone among establishment figures who want the full story about the government of Saudi Arabia and 9/11 to be disclosed.

“One of the remaining questions is whether the 19 hijackers acted alone or had external support,” said former senator Bob Graham, a Democrat from Florida who also chaired the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Graham claims that the information contained in the 28 pages shows financial links between at least two of the hijackers and the Saudi Arabian embassy in Washington.

“There is hard evidence in there that would directly implicate individuals,” added Lynch, without discussing the details because they remain classified.

Graham said he believes keeping the pages secret amounts to “excessive deference to Saudi Arabia,” where all the hijackers were from.

In response to a request by the White House earlier this year on behalf of Lynch, the director of national intelligence is reviewing whether the pages can be made public, according to a spokesman, Michael Birmingham.

The Saudi government, through its Washington, D.C., public relations firm, did not respond to a request for comment. In the past it has insisted it has nothing to hide.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/10/02/push-for-openness-about-saudi-links-terrorism-lynch-unlikely-hero-conspiracy-theorists/XCD2sokrInjsIqbX6M4I3I/story.html

As long as they keep those pages locked away, they can keep calling it a "theory". It's not a theory. The information in this thread will be confirmed by the release of those pages.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on October 12, 2014, 08:35:13 am
Paul Sperry: “Unger and Moore have their own agendas. mine aligns with the FBI WFO case agents and FCPD* detectives who say they’ll never forgive the Bush admin for throttling their investigation of leads back to Saudi Embassy and Bandar himself in McLean. they view the former POTUS as a traitor.”
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/12/15/murdochs-nypost-today-backs-michael-moore-bush-saudi-claims-from-fahrenheit-911


After America is Attacked (by design)by their Ally Saudi Arabia and their other Ally Israel monitors and documents the event, The U.S. Military Industrial Complex send Americans' tax dollars down the toilet spending trillions of dollars and sending thousands of young patriots to their deaths protecting Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Government thinks it has a right to privacy and you have none The American people have been scammed by traitors and it's time to pay the piper.

Terry Strada, 9/11 victim family member and advocate, addresses the criticism that the 28 pages don't matter because it was the U.S. that was behind the 9-11 attacks........

http://youtu.be/sDGwtCZtVLQ?t=2h8m20s
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jofortruth on October 12, 2014, 08:53:13 am
Terry Strada, 9/11 victim family member and advocate, addresses the criticism that the 28 pages don't matter because it was the U.S. that was behind the 9-11 attacks........

http://youtu.be/sDGwtCZtVLQ?t=2h8m20s


This person has a point. We know the US was involved, even if allowing it to happen after having many warnings and then using it to implement the globalist NWO.

We know the US was involved in the coverup and not telling the people the truth, so yes there is a connection there also.

We also know they are buddies with the Saudis (Bush family very buddy buddy with Saudis) and that Bush allowed the Saudis to leave the country right after the attacks, and even helped them do so. This is more proof of Saudi connections.

We also know that Bob Graham isn't a trustworthy person and is brother to the big Graham family media and he is the one pushing for the release of these documents and Rep Walter Jones is further promoting the release thinking it is the smoking gun.

There are many more things they should be exposing like the NEOCON influence out of the State Dept and from within the government that was in charge on 911. Oh yes there are many smoking guns of 911, but they will always promote things that deflect away from complicity from within the USA, and blame it on foreigners (who btw are their partners). Same old games, new day!

Until the pathetic Congress (a majority) gets off their butts and calls for a REAL investigation, it won't happen because some are too chicken to do it, others participants, some are totally ignorant, while others look the other way for payoffs! Shameful, all of them!

 ::)
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 12, 2014, 11:41:57 am
lets see 2001+25 = 2026 ( some major disclosures will occur
+50 = 2051    ( most relevant documents will be released - but the trail is facts will be gone  investigations that should have been made, were never made)

Just like  JFK ....

Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on December 13, 2014, 11:11:34 pm
Costs of Continueing the 9/11 Cover up Keep Mounting

According to the 9-11 Commission report Binalshibh was a "key player" in what they called "the 9/11 conspiracy".   Page 177/585
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

According to the 9-11 commission report:

"Like Atta, by the late 1990s Binalshibh was decrying what he perceived to be a "Jewish world conspiracy." He proclaimed that the highest duty of every Muslim was to pursue jihad, and that the highest honor was to die during the jihad. Despite his rheoric, however, Binalshibh presented a more amiable figure than the austere Atta, and was known within the community as being sociable, extroverted, polite, and adventuresome."
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

So according to the 9-11 commision... The key players in what they call "the 9/11 conspiracy", were decrying what they perceived to be a "Jewish world conspiracy."

According to the footnoted sources, this information comes from Interrogation of Binalshibh from Oct 2 2002 and also from German Intelligence reports. The 9-11 commission was not allowed to question or even look at Binalshibh. No, the CIA wont allow other Americans to talk or even see Binalshibh, but will allow Morrocan officails. That is who is interrogating Binalshibh during this time. He was captured Sept 11 2002. But it turns out there are video and audio tapes of these interrogations. But the CIA says no one needs to see those either.....

CNN: 9/11 suspect grilled on tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2L3lQQYs_g

"The videos show Binalshibh sitting at a desk answering questions at a Moroccan-run facility the CIA used near Rabat in 2002, U.S. officials told NBC News."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38735351/ns/us_news-security/t/interrogation-tapes-found-under-desk/#.VIzUQWduh9A

All this information and much more already obtained by Oct 2, 2002. But Binalshibh will be tortured. He wont be tortured to "prevent the next 9-11", or "actionable intelligence", he'll be tortured, and kept from the public because he's problematic to the Governments story of "the 9/11 conspiracy", so are the others held in Gitmo and being tortured.

After Oct 2, 2002:

"CIA decided to render Ramzi Bin al Shibh to its prison in Poland in February 2003, interrogators prepared for his arrival by drafting an interrogation plan that called for him to be shaved, stripped, and shackled “hand and foot with arms outstretched over his head” in a cold room – all before interrogators even met him and determined whether he was “cooperative,” to use the report’s term.

Bin al Shibh was then subjected to torture techniques for an estimated 34 days straight.  When the interrogators cabled CIA headquarters that they did not believe Bin al Shibh had the information it sought, superiors told them to keep going, and so they did, for another three weeks."

https://www.aclu.org/blog/human-rights-national-security/what-did-cias-torture-program-have-do-intelligence-gathering-not

The report also reveals that over and over, with victim after victim, CIA headquarters told interrogators to keep going even when the interrogators assessed that the prisoner did not have the information the CIA sought, was “cooperating,” or might be permanently psychologically damaged.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/human-rights-national-security/what-did-cias-torture-program-have-do-intelligence-gathering-not

So why is he being tortured after providing information? Because the torture programs main purpose is not about "stopping the next attack". It's about destroying the minds of the captives.This has to be stopped, and can be with OPEN PUBLIC TRIALS, and ending the cover up of the 28 pages. Releasing the 28 pages AND having public trials of the 5 charged with 9-11, will lead to answers and expose truth.

When Zacarias Moussaoui names Prince Turki al-Faisal and Princess Haifa al-Faisal, wife of Prince Bandar of "gaving him cash and ‘channeled a large amount of money’ to another of the hijackers."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2839517/Jailed-9-11-hijacker-Zacarias-Moussaoui-accuses-two-Saudi-s-senior-royals-including-former-ambassador-paying-Osama-bin-Laden-s-terror-plot-extraordinary-claim-prison.html

It's taken as the ravings of a madman. BinalShibhs' mind has to be destroyed as well.

According to the Daily News Binalshibh is...."The biggest loudmouth at the Sept. 11 war crimes tribunal at Guantanamo Bay "

he's a "whiny jihadist" who...."outdid himself Tuesday, getting tossed from the courtroom not once but twice."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/screeching-9-11-defendant-kicked-court-room-article-1.1551294

So what was Binalshibh, the whiny jihadist loudmouth "tossed from the courtroom" for?

The first time:

"Army judge Col. James Pohl ordered him removed to a holding cell in the morning when Binalshibh shouted about a “secret CIA prison” that “nobody investigates.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/screeching-9-11-defendant-kicked-court-room-article-1.1551294

The just released torture report I read shows he's telling the truth. And the second time he was "tossed from the courtroom".....

"The defendant was booted from the courtroom again in the afternoon when he yelled, “It’s torture! Torture!”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/screeching-9-11-defendant-kicked-court-room-article-1.1551294

But don't be concerned, because in this secret military tribunal we have instead of a trial, we can trust authorities to tell us what this torture really is.......

"Navy Capt. Robert Durand, a spokesman at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the 9/11 defendants are being held, said Binalshibh received a “freshly prepared standard detainee halal meal” but “complained that his lunch did not include condiments such as olives and honey."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/9-11-defendant-rants-withheld-olives-honey-meals-article-1.1432293

Oh, that's all? According to the NY Daily News........

"The whiny jihadist and his co-defendants have staged courtroom stunts before"
“It is a form of psychological torture,” he growled.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/9-11-defendant-rants-withheld-olives-honey-meals-article-1.1432293

His military appointed Attorney can't say his client is insane of course.........

"The lawyer asserted Binalshibh does not suffer from a delusional disorder — despite reports that he has been treated for schizophrenia."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/9-11-defendant-rants-withheld-olives-honey-meals-article-1.1432293

So he went from....
"known within the community as being sociable, extroverted, polite, and adventuresome."
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

to....
"reports that he has been treated for schizophrenia."

Congratulations on the CIA's torture program - Mission Accomplished!!

Because if the trials were public and the 28 pages released it would expose who he is being sacraficed for. He is charged with.....

"Binalshibh provided the 9/11 attackers with money and help in finding flight training."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/9-11-defendant-rants-withheld-olives-honey-meals-article-1.1432293

Actually it was Saudi Agents Basnan and Bayoumi who provided money and "help in finding flight training." But they aren't being tortured. They are being protected. In a real trial evidence would be produced. The evidence is in the Investigation done by the FBI Agents, and investigators for the Joint Inquiry. This evidence is covered up in order to have secret trials and torture.

He is also charged with.....

"He was supposed to be one of the 9/11 hijackers himself, on orders from Osama Bin Laden, but assumed a supporting role after he was denied a U.S. visa four times, authorities alleged."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/9-11-defendant-rants-withheld-olives-honey-meals-article-1.1432293

Actually, it was Saudi Agent Osama Basnan who tried to get Binalshibh a visa to get into America, and is a convicted felon for it, along with his wife. Basnan is also an ardent supporter of Bin Laden and had contact with his family. This is why the 28 pages have to be released. This cover up has to end. It's already cost trillions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of deaths, in a "Pre-emptive War", loss of liberties, and you can add torture to the list.

PENTTBOMB was the official name of the 9-11 attacks investigation.

Our ensuing investigation of the attacks of 9/11—code-named “PENTTBOM”
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/history/famous-cases/9-11-investigation

This FBI report is headed....
"Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects to the Government of Saudi Arabia"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923070317/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2006-04-25-xx-FBI-San-Diego-Saudi-links-PENTTBOMB.pdf

The PENTTBOMB Subjects are:
Osama Yousef Basnan and Omar Ahmed Al-Bayoumi
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923070317/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2006-04-25-xx-FBI-San-Diego-Saudi-links-PENTTBOMB.pdf

According to this same FBI Document Osama Basnan:

"has been in contact with UBL family members; ardent UBL supporter"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

and:

4. Associations: Closely associated with___________________(former assistant to ______________________).
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

This is the same document with different redaction's telling us more.....

4. Associations: Closely associated with____________________________________Ambassador Prince Bandar).  page 2/6
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008082249/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

The "(former assistant to Ambassador Prince Bandar)." whose name is being redacted is most likely Adel Al-Jubeir.

"In 1987, Al-Jubeir was appointed into the Saudi Diplomatic Service and posted to the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia in Washington, DC, where he served as Special Assistant to then Ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adel_al-Jubeir

Al-Jubeir even admits that Prince Bandar gave money to Basnan, an "ardent UBL supporter" .......

"Saudi officials say Bandar and al-Faisal transferred tens of thousands of dollars to a Saudi named Osama Basnan and his Jordanian wife, Magda Ibrahim Dweikat.

Al-Jubeir said Bandar gave charitable donations to Basnan to help cover his wife's medical bills starting in 1998 and that al-Faisal separately gave regular monthly payments to Dweikat, who used her maiden name, which would not call attention to her marriage to Basnan."

http://amarillo.com/stories/2003/08/02/usn_reportlinks.shtml

He doesn't want the work of the FBI PENTTBOM investigators and the Joint Inquiry released either of course so he can say things like.......

"We have consistently maintained that neither al-Bayoumi nor Basnan were agents of the Saudi government, and our investigation as well as those of the US government and the British have found no involvement by them with Sept. 11," said Adel al-Jubeir, foreign affairs adviser to Saudi Arabia's crown prince.

"As it turns out, this whole controversy was much ado about nothing. Another myth has been dispelled."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/03/25/fbi_concludes_pair_werent_saudi_agents/

BinalShibh kept getting denied a visa, he's not a Saudi, he's from Yemen, and somebody at the state department was doing their job, but he wanted to come to America and Basnan and his wife tried to help him come here by marriage fraud. Or as the 9-11 Commission whitewash put it in a buried footnote.....

"Even after the last application was rejected, Binalshibh sought ways to get a visa, such as by marrying a U.S. citizen. He corresponded by email with a woman in California, but Atta told him to discontinue this effort."-  footnote 52 page 536/585
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

The "woman in California" the 9-11 whitewash report fails to mention is Osama Basnans' wife. All these Saudi Agents involved hide behind their wives as a laughable plausible deniability smokescreen. Bandars wifes' account sending money to Basnans' wife who turns it over (for some unexplained reason) to Bayoumis' wife and the money somehow ends up in the hands of the 9-11 hijackers.

And it wasn't just email Binalshibh was using with his California contacts, they were in phone contact as well, according to an FBI Penttbom investigator....

Event: Interview of FBI Special Agent ________________

"When asked whether there were any other 9/11 leads he found interesting,_________ stated that one interesting fact is that Osama Basnan's __________________________________was in phone and e-mail contact with Ramzi Binalshibh in September 2000. ________stated that they apparently met over the internet, as Binalshibh was looking for an American wife. _______stated that Binalshibh has confirmed this fact in interrogations."

https://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458#download

The interrogation he is referring to, is referenced in footnote 52 of the 9-11 whitewash report....

"Intelligence report, interrogation of Binalshibh, Sept 24, 2002.   page 536/585
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Which means it's on video. This is when he was in Moroccan custody and when the videos were made that are talked about here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2L3lQQYs_g

and here....

"The videos show Binalshibh sitting at a desk answering questions at a Moroccan-run facility the CIA used near Rabat in 2002, U.S. officials told NBC News."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38735351/ns/us_news-security/t/interrogation-tapes-found-under-desk/#.VIzUQWduh9A

Saudi Agent Basnan and his wife are both convicted felons convicted of a felony but slapped on the wrist and deported. Binalshibh meanwhile has spent the last 12 years having his mind destroyed by the CIA while they protect Saudi Officials like Bandar, Bayoumi, Basnan, and Thumairy who did more than nearly anyone being tortured when it comes to assisting the hijackers and their plot.

FBI Penttbom report on Basnan:

"Current Status: In custody in San Diego (Southern District of California) charged with two counts of violating Title 18, USC, Section 1546 (visa fraud); ___________________also in custody charged with one count of visa fraud."
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

Title 18, USC, Section 1546......

"Prosecuting sham marriage under 18 U.S.C. [section] 1546

Prosecution Under 18 U.S.C. [section] 1546

18 U.S.C. [section] 1546(a) punishes aliens who knowingly subscribe as true any false statement with respect to a material fact in any documentation required by immigration laws. (28) As a result, sham marriage participants violate 18 U.S.C. [section] 1546 by claiming they engaged in a bona fide marital union when in fact their marriage was meant only to confer citizenship on the alien spouse. (29) In that situation, the couple's assertion that their marriage is bona fide is a material fact that is knowingly misrepresented to the government. (30) In addition, a person who assists a violator of 18 U.S.C. [section] 1546 may be convicted as an aider and abettor of that crime. (31) Finally, under some circumstances, sham marriage participants convicted for false representation under 18 U.S.C. [section] 1546 may also be convicted under other related statutes."

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Prosecuting+sham+marriage+under+18+U.S.C.+%5Bsection%5D+1546%3A+is+validity...-a0172525541

Basnan and his wife were both convicted according to court documents....

According to court documents I have accessed, Basnans wife, Magda Ibrahim Dweikat, has a history of engaging in sham marriages, in order to procure welfare benefits from the American taxpayer....

To be specific Court documents state the following...

"Approximately sixteen months after Dweikat's and Basnan's entry into the United States, on November 6, 1997, Michael Andrew Mason, a U.S. citizen, executed INS Form I-130 "Petition for Alien Relative," indicating that Dweikat was his wife. The Form I-130 was accompanied by a copy of a marriage certificate from the Commonwealth of Virginia which indicated that Mason and Dweikat were married on October 20, 1997."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/300723984/USA-VS-DWEIKAT

What's interesting also is the marriage fraud scam was with a convicted drug dealer who is supposed to be in prison.....

Court Records:
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Plaintiff-Appellee,
v.
Michael Andrew MASON, Defendant-Appellant.

Argued Dec. 6, 1996.
Decided Feb. 12, 1997.


Appellant Michael Andrew Mason was charged with one count of conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine base in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 846 and nine counts of possession with intent to distribute cocaine base or distribution of cocaine base in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1) and 18 U.S.C. § 2, based on Mason's participation in a conspiracy to import cocaine and cocaine base from Washington, D.C. and parts of Virginia for distribution in the Harrisonburg and Staunton, Virginia, areas. The government alleged that Mason was a mid-level drug dealer in the conspiracy who distributed smaller quantities of crack cocaine to lower level dealers and, on occasion, negotiated and brokered distributions.

During a jury trial, the government established that 86.39 grams of cocaine base were discovered in Mason's car, and several of Mason's co-defendants testified detailing Mason's role in the conspiracy. In addition, Officer Boshart and Deputy Emsweiler testified that they saw an illegal drug transaction between Michael and Justin Mason and a government informant.

The Presentence Report stated that Mason had an offense level of 34 and a criminal history category of I and determined that under the Sentencing Guidelines the sentencing range was 151 months to 188 months. However, the district court departed downward from the guidelines and sentenced Mason to 120 months.
http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/et34xne4/court-of-appeals-for-the-fourth-circuit/united-states-v-michael-andrew-mason-united-states-of-america-v-michael-andrew-mason/

The appeals court upheld conviction but said the sentence was departed downward for no good reason....

"For the reasons stated herein, we affirm the appellant's conviction, but we vacate the sentence and remand to the district court for sentencing consistent with this opinion."

AFFIRMED IN PART, VACATED IN PART, AND REMANDED

http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/et34xne4/court-of-appeals-for-the-fourth-circuit/united-states-v-michael-andrew-mason-united-states-of-america-v-michael-andrew-mason/

Only 8 months after this decision to uphold his conviction and increase his sentence, the convicted drug dealer is out of jail being part of a scam to make Basnan's wife a US citizen she then immediately applies for welfare. Classy......

November 6, 1997, Michael Andrew Mason, a U.S. citizen, executed INS Form I-130 "Petition for Alien Relative," indicating that Dweikat was his wife. The Form I-130 was accompanied by a copy of a marriage certificate from the Commonwealth of Virginia which indicated that Mason and Dweikat were married on October 20, 1997.


Both Basnan and his wife are convicted felons and were given a $100 fine (which was waived) and left the county. Hosting parties for the Blind Sheik, supporting Bin Laden, funneling money from Bandar to the hijackers, engaging in visa fraud to try and get other 9-11 hijackers into the country and Basnan is fined $100, which he doesn't have to pay, and is protected because of his Saudi Intelligence ties, while Binalshibh gets tortured for twelve years. 

Release the 28 pages and get these prisoners in an Open court! 
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on December 14, 2014, 07:09:27 am
Lets just remember that if the CIA covered up who was involved in 9/11 in any way, that would make them co-conspiritors.
Which means these torture techniques would apply to them as well - until the rest of us find out what has been going on.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on April 17, 2015, 06:52:22 pm
Lets just remember that if the CIA covered up who was involved in 9/11 in any way, that would make them co-conspiritors.

They were. Members of the Intelligence Agencies using the brainwashed idiot "Former freedom fighters, who now hate freedom" worked together, to murder thousands of people, in order to have wars to murder thousands more. Isn't that nice? Exposing the Saudi role exposes the CIA and the POS traitors we have as Presidents.

Bob Graham: FBI covering up Saudi gov't connection to 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpabk0lOVNk

By Bob Graham, special to the Tampa Bay Times
Friday, April 17, 2015 1:50pm

The official position of the United States government is that the 19 hijackers acted without assistance.

The relatively little information released so far to the American people about the 9/11 hijackers' life in the United States suggests there was a yearlong relationship among a Saudi, described by the FBI as an agent of the kingdom; a consular official, who was deported from the United States in 2003 based on ties to terrorists; two of the hijackers who lived in San Diego at the invitation of the Saudi agent; and the hijackers' landlord, who was also a paid informant of the FBI.


What can you do?

In the U.S. House of Representatives a resolution has been introduced asking the president to release the 28 pages. Call, write or email your representative to take advantage of the congressional privilege to read the 28 pages and if convinced there is no basis for withholding this evidence from the American people to become a co-sponsor of the resolution.

The FBI has continued to fight every effort to get to the truth in Sarasota. Call, write or email U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and demand that he instruct the FBI to let the people know the truth.

Most important, the president has the ultimate authority to declassify 9/11 information. Call, write or email the White House urging that he do so.

This is not a responsibility for someone else to shoulder. We are all entitled to know what our government has done in our name. As citizens we all have a right to petition our government to secure truth, justice and security. Please act now.

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/column-did-911-terrorists-get-outside-help/2225956

yearlong relationship among a Saudi, described by the FBI as an agent of the kingdom --> Bayoumi, also Basnan

a consular official, who was deported from the United States in 2003 based on ties to terrorists; ----> Fahad Al-Thumairy

and the hijackers' landlord, who was also a paid informant of the FBI. ---- Abusatter Shaikh (who made $100,000 on the deal)

Paul Sperry: “Unger and Moore have their own agendas. mine aligns with the FBI WFO case agents and FCPD* detectives who say they’ll never forgive the Bush admin for throttling their investigation of leads back to Saudi Embassy and Bandar himself in McLean. they view the former POTUS as a traitor.”
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/12/15/murdochs-nypost-today-backs-michael-moore-bush-saudi-claims-from-fahrenheit-911

They had never been to the U.S. and couldn't speak English. An infrastructure had to be in place already to assist them. This is what those 28 pages deleted from the Joint Inquiry are about. Because it proves that Saudi Arabian Intelligence was behind the infrastructure used to make 9-11 happen after the CIA let them into the country and refused to share information on the terrorists they allowed in with other U.S. Agencies.

Fahad al-Thumairy an administrator at the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Los Angeles with diplomatic status was the contact man for the hijackers when they arrived in America. He set them up with housing on their arrival and supplied them a driver, he then had Saudi Intelligence Agent Omar al-Bayoumi come up to L.A. and together with Saudi Intelligence Agent Osama Basnan, they set up these hijackers in San Diego, got them IDs, housing, and enrolled them in flight schools. Agents Basnan and Bayoumi were being funneled money that they then passed on to the hijackers, from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar.

At the top of this Saudi pile of trash sits Bandar Bush, the CIA, and the U.S. President. All Mass murdering traitors.

This has to be the most obvious and disgusting cover-up in U.S. History.

Saudi Connection to 9/11 Still Being Covered Up in Washington

A national tragedy has become a national disgrace, abetted by top members of both parties. Oddly enough, their names are Bush and Clinton — the same two families that may well run “against” each other in next year’s presidential elections. Think about that

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/04/15/saudi-connection-to-911-still-being-covered-up-in-washington/
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on April 19, 2015, 02:32:49 pm
Have just read your December 14 2014 post more carefully:

Quote
Basnan and his wife were both convicted according to court documents....

According to court documents I have accessed, Basnans wife, Magda Ibrahim Dweikat, has a history of engaging in sham marriages, in order to procure welfare benefits from the American taxpayer....

To be specific Court documents state the following...

"Approximately sixteen months after Dweikat's and Basnan's entry into the United States, onNovember 6, 1997, Michael Andrew Mason, a U.S. citizen, executed INS Form I-130 "Petition for Alien Relative," indicating that Dweikat was his wife. The Form I-130 was accompanied by a copy of a marriage certificate from the Commonwealth of Virginia which indicated that Mason and Dweikat were married on October 20, 1997."

We need to know more about M A Mason.

"From approximately 1983 to 1997, Michael Mason led a conspiracy to distribute powder cocaine and crack cocaine in the Gary, Indiana area."

Gary, Indiana?
Not a place previously linked to 9/11.

1983 to 1997 is a long time.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 19, 2015, 03:21:18 pm
Hulet - He describes the setup ...:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/pages/trailer-old-earth
Thursday - April 16, 2015
In the first half, analyst Craig Hulet offered commentary on current events, terrorism, and world conflicts. "It looks to me unbelievably clear that money is going to buy the presidency, and Jeb Bush will be the next president," he declared.

http://www.craigbhulet.com/
To Listen to Radio Appearances of Craig B Hulet? Click Here!  Latest shows: George Noory 04.17.15
http://www.eliasound.biz/hulet/mp3s/2015/04.17.15.mp3
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on April 19, 2015, 03:32:07 pm
Quote
The government presented evidence that established that since 1996, John Allen supplied cocaine to Mason. Allen, who owned Elite Electronics which supplied and serviced pagers, also provided Mason's organization with pagers.   The pagers allowed callers to leave messages that would be sent by a computer at Elite Electronics to the customer's pager.

Elite electronics appears to be based out of Norther Ireland.
One director of related company KAA properties is Robert John Allen, who also directs Derryvullen North ltd.
A fellow director there is Rev. Canon Thompson, who has spent his life in the Middle East and has a degree in Islamic Studies. He knows Princess Anne and some Islamic royalty.

Quote
The launch of Andy Thompson's latest book "Christianity in the UAE - Culture and Heritage" was hosted by the British Ambassador and attended by HH Sheikh Nayan and HRH The Prince Andrew

Prince Andrew popping up again.

How did this Rev Thompson meet the Allens, (the suppliers of Cocaine to Michael Mason, who "married" Magda Dweikat) ?
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on April 19, 2015, 03:40:53 pm
Different M Mason - different trial
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on April 20, 2015, 02:12:11 pm
Wow, thanks for pointing that out early on.

M A Mason, Mid level drug dealer in a conspiracy to import cocaine around Virginia, some cocaine came from DC.
Must have been arrested around 1994.

So this guy tried to marry Dweikat.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on April 28, 2015, 12:28:50 pm
Do you think the 28 pages are about the Al Hijji family.
Did Bob Graham leak that information to Anthony Sutton for his book 11th Day.
That would make a certain sense, as didnt Graham jump on the issue once Summers got it published in the Broward Bulldog.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on May 26, 2015, 06:40:18 pm
Do you think the 28 pages are about the Al Hijji family.

No They are not mentioned in the 28 pages.

Did Bob Graham leak that information to Anthony Sutton for his book 11th Day.

No Graham found out about it after he was contacted by Dan Christensen, an investigative reporter in Florida.

We Were Lied To About 9/11 - Episode 26 - Dan Christensen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lop5F9G_WE
 
That would make a certain sense, as didnt Graham jump on the issue once Summers got it published in the Broward Bulldog.

Graham jumped on it for other reasons.
When Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan were working on their book, which I would recommend.....

The Eleventh Day: The Full Story of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden
by Anthony Summers (Author), Robbyn Swan (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Eleventh-Day-Story-Osama-Laden/dp/140006659X/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?

There was a lead they were working on as the book was being published. It was the Al Hijji family and the Sarasota FBI Investigation. So the authors contacted local reporter Dan Christensen to assist them. When they found out the FBI had conducted an Investigation, they asked Graham what the FBI Investigation revealed. That's when Graham got involved because that is when he found out the FBI covered up and kept secret that investigation from him and the Joint Inquiry. Graham had some real investigators that were doing the ground work for his joint inquiry. It was these investigators working for Grahams' Joint Inquiry that discovered this........

September 9, 2002, 8:30 AM
Hijackers Lived With FBI Informant

The connection was discovered by congressional investigators

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hijackers-lived-with-fbi-informant/

The FBI didn't volunteer that information. So Graham already knew the FBI was hiding stuff. When these authors and reporters asked Graham about the FBI Investigation in Sarasota it was then that Graham realized the FBI had hid that from his Inquiry as well. He was not happy with that. So it certainly is not mentioned in the 28 pages. It couldn't be, because while the FBI was unsuccessfull, about hiding the fact that the hijackers were living with an Intelligence informant, The FBI was successful in hiding the Sarasota Saudi Investigation from Graham and his investigators, not to mention the 9-11 Commission. The FBI response initially was -there was no investigation. Then they changed their response to- yea, there was, and they turned over all that stuff to the Joint Inquiry and the 9-11 Commission. Although there is not a single person associated with the Joint Inquiry or 9-11 commission that backs up the FBI.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on May 27, 2015, 05:17:29 am
True, he claims the FBI didn't tell him about the Al Hijji incident, so it can't be in there.

I wonder who told Anthony Summers about it though.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on June 02, 2015, 10:48:53 am
MAJOR DEVELOPMENT: Rand Paul, Ron Wyden to Introduce 28 Pages Resolution in Senate
http://28pages.org/2015/05/28/major-development-rand-paul-ron-wyden-to-introduce-28-pages-resolution-in-senate/

The Press Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDiEHxbyqyI

Release of the 28 pages proves that AT BEST the highest levels of the U.S. Government were co- conspirators after the fact of the mass murder of thousands of people on 9-11.

Release of the 28 pages will further reveal the lengths of cover up that the highest levels of the U.S. Government would go to in order to have wars against countries that they knew were not complicit in the attacks of 9-11, while protecting those that were complicit in the murder of thousands of people in the U.S.

This is treason.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: WOPR on July 22, 2015, 09:12:26 pm
Hello....

Entire thread rendered irrelevant by empirical analysis.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on August 13, 2015, 04:22:01 pm
Graham had some real investigators that were doing the ground work for his joint inquiry. It was these investigators working for Grahams' Joint Inquiry that discovered this........

September 9, 2002, 8:30 AM
Hijackers Lived With FBI Informant

The connection was discovered by congressional investigators

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hijackers-lived-with-fbi-informant/

The FBI didn't volunteer that information.



Lawsuit could reveal secret Saudi connection to 9/11

By Paul Sperry                                August 9, 2015 | 11:30am


While the Obama administration refuses to make public the censored 28 pages of the congressional intelligence report implicating the Saudi government in the terror strike — defying bipartisan requests from lawmakers — the two investigators who authored the long-secret section will more than likely be called to testify in the lawsuit brought against the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Jacobson and Lesemann went on to work for the independent 9/11 Commission, where they uncovered more evidence and connected new dots to the Saudi Embassy in Washington and the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles.

“They were removed at the 11th hour by the senior staff,” plaintiffs’ attorney Sean Carter of Cozen O’Connor said, explaining that the decision was a “political matter.”

Carter said that the staff investigators “felt they had documented a direct link between the Saudi government and the Sept. 11 plot based on the explosive material they had uncovered concerning the activities of Fahad al-Thumairy and Omar al-Bayoumi.”

The suit charges that two of the Saudi hijackers, who first entered the United States in Los Angeles before traveling to Washington to attack the Pentagon, were funded through the Saudi embassy and consulate — and that they were handled primarily by Saudi “agent” Bayoumi while staying in San Diego.

The judge now has a 60-to-90-day window to decide whether to dismiss the case based on the Saudi pleading or let 9/11 families proceed to discovery, which could expose the role of other, more senior Saudi officials.

Plaintiffs’ attorney Jerry Goldman says he is optimistic the judge will decide in their favor.

“He wasn’t buying their spin,” he said in a phone interview. “The burden is on the kingdom to prove we are wrong, and they didn’t do that.”

http://nypost.com/2015/08/09/lawsuit-could-reveal-secret-saudi-connection-to-911/
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 13, 2015, 04:39:19 pm
it's like we know already but they just can't make it official ... the lawsuits would fly indictments would be demanded ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_al-Bayoumi

...
On January 15, 2000, future 9/11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar flew to Los Angeles, California from Bangkok, Thailand, just after attending the 2000 Al Qaeda Summit in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The final 9/11 Commission Report noted:
Hazmi and Mihdhar were ill-prepared for a mission in the United States. . . Neither had spent any substantial time in the West, and neither spoke much, if any, English. It would therefore be plausible that they or [Khalid Sheikh Mohammed] would have tried to identify, in advance, a friendly contact for them in the United States. . . We believe it unlikely that Hazmi and Mihdhar. . . would have come to the United States without arranging to receive assistance from one or more individuals informed in advance of their arrival."
Al-Bayoumi met the hijackers at a restaurant after their landing; he claims he met them by accident. He invited the two hijackers to move to San Diego with him, and they did. Al-Bayoumi found them an apartment, co-signed the lease, and advanced them $1500 to help pay for their rent. The 9/11 Commission, however, concluded that “[n]either then nor later did Bayoumi give money to either Hazmi or Mihdhar.” [10] Al-Bayoumi also helped the two obtain driver's licenses, rides to Social Security, and information on flight schools
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on August 13, 2015, 05:22:31 pm
It would have made more sense if they flew into San Diego rather than LA.
Ive heard i said the LA story was invented to provide cover for the Saudis. We are all supposed to believe it was all just a big coincidence who they met and where they ended up.

"I absolutely didn't know anything" - Abdusattar Sheikh
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 15, 2015, 06:46:34 am
Its becoming increasingly obvious that this story will eventually break across the entire planet, its just a matter of time.

But what will be the consequences ?
Invade Saudi Arabia ?

If they take out Saudi Arabia, then the entire Al-CIAduh finance hub and home base disappears and the War on Terror collapses. Not a very plausible scenario, so come on, what is going to be the final out come ?

ISIS running Saudi Arabia ?
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on August 15, 2015, 11:23:58 am
I was reading something the other day about Rita Katz saying when she started investigating the SAAR Foundation, white vans with tinted windows started showing up following her around. The same happened to FBI agents, she said.

The Saudis seem so closely protected I somehow can't see anything bad ever happening to them from the US side.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 15, 2015, 11:46:55 am
I was reading something the other day about Rita Katz saying when she started investigating the SAAR Foundation, white vans with tinted windows started showing up following her around. The same happened to FBI agents, she said.

The Saudis seem so closely protected I somehow can't see anything bad ever happening to them from the US side.

They are for now, at least before they started wrecking the global oil market putting the frackers out of Biz. If your one of those people who think that "Its The British Empire", then the destruction of the price of Brent Crude and undermine of the Pound Sterling puts Saudi Arabia firmly as target for violent regieme change instigated by bombing the place back to the stone age.

Things can change.

IF the public thinks that it was Saudi Arabia behind 911, then we all know what will happen.

Sure, it probably was not part of the plan that Saudi Arabia act as the ultimate patsy, but how shall I put it... They can be pragmatic, in which case they will sacrifice Saudi Arabia to save their own skins, and place the blame on a patsy once and for all... I suppose ISIS would fill the vacum, and the talking heads would act as if that was completely unpredictable.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not in the biz of predictions, I'm just trying to vocalize what I would describe as a strong possibility.

There are other possibilities, such as discovering just how powerful the brainwashing controls the public. They might well go into full spin mode, and spin some alternative reality where Saudi Arabia is some how victim and it was just isolated individuals who just happened to be Saudi Royals, and Saudi Secret Service, and Saudi Diplomats . ..  . Of course that sounds daft, but then about 50% of America thinks they found WMD in Iraq.

How would other countries react ?
What would Putin say ?
What would Bejing say ?

There are an awful lot of factors making it a complex equation.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on August 15, 2015, 12:19:32 pm
In all seriousness, people who work in classification know what they are doing. Classifying things draws more attention to them that not. And they must have known that when they censored it.

So perhaps, if there was anything that really needed classifying, it would never have been allowed into the report in the first place.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on August 16, 2015, 08:55:10 pm
It would have made more sense if they flew into San Diego rather than LA.

They already have an established contact at LA. Working for the Saudi Government at their embassy in LA with diplomatic status-Fahad Al-Thumairy.

From FBI Investigation:

Information from FBI New York has revealed that on 12/31/1999, SAID SALEH BIN ATTASH, aka "KHALLAD" was a passenger from Bangkok to Los Angeles. Bin Attash is the alleged mastermind behind the bombing of USS Cole in Aden, Yemen. NewYork indicated that they had no record of Bin Attash actually entering the United States from that flight. New York opined that certain diplomatic arrangements exist at various airports which allow diplomats to meet incoming foreign nationals at the baggage carousels. New York opined that it may have been possible that someone from the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles may have met Khallad and escorted him through customs.
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

Based on a "need to know" basis, I doubt that KSM or Attash even knew who Bayoumi was. Bayoumi was brought on board by Al-Thumairy. The reason these guys(Attash-KSM-Binalshibh) are stuck in Gitmo being tortured for decades is so we can never put Attash or KSM on the stand for questions. The 9-11 commission said the CIA told them that under interrogation KSM denied knowing Al-Bayoumi. But that isn't the question. The question for Attash and KSM is their relationship with Thumairy.

This CIA Doc. shows that Thumairy is indeed in contact with Attash.

Bin Attash was seen in the company of Los Angeles-based Sunni Extremists ____________________________________________Fahad al-(Thumairy)" -- page 96/355
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/CIA-911-Binder1.pdf
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on August 16, 2015, 09:38:29 pm

IF the public thinks that it was Saudi Arabia behind 911, then we all know what will happen.

Which is why the public needs educated on this. It was the U.S. Government keeping this information from the public while convincing the public to kill Iraqi's, and give up their rights. They were co-conspirators. That's not an easy pill for most Americans to swallow.

The fact that a Bush could very well be a Presidential candidate soon or a choice between Bush - Clinton shows how the public needs educated on this, and what an uphill battle it is.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on September 08, 2015, 03:43:44 pm
It was the U.S. Government keeping this information from the public while convincing the public to kill Iraqi's, and give up their rights. They were co-conspirators. That's not an easy pill for most Americans to swallow.

September 8, 2015
Congressmen Reiterate Call for Release of 9/11 Secrets

When Congressman Thomas Massie first arrived in Washington, DC as a freshman from Kentucky, a long-tenured North Carolinian, Walter Jones, asked him an intriguing question.

“He said, ‘Did you realize there’s 28 pages of the 9/11 report that never been released, but as a congressman, you can go read them in a secret room?’,” Massie recalled on The Tyler Cralle Show

“I go read them…...they’re the most consequential pages in the thousand page report.”

Jones, joining Massie in his discussion with host Tyler Cralle, said, “There’s a lot of information (in the 28 pages) the American people and the 9/11 families have a right to see. The American people cannot trust a government that will not let them see information on one of the worst tragedies in America.”

The pages—an entire chapter of the joint inquiry report—were classified by the Bush White House. “After reading those pages, I will tell you that I can understand (why)…because the Bush admin was very close to the Saudis, if you remember.

Noting the resolution has attracted a modest 18 cosponsors to date, Massie said, “Trust me, it’s a dangerous thing to cosponsor this because they want to keep this under the rug.”

“I did not do what I should have done to read and find out whether Bush was telling us the truth about Saddam being responsible for 9/11 and having weapons of mass destruction. Because I did not do my job then, I helped kill 4,000 Americans and I will go to my grave regretting that.”  --Congressman Walter Jones
http://28pages.org/2015/09/08/congressmen-reiterate-call-for-release-of-911-secrets/

But there are other questions here, and they involve the story of how the Bush administration sought to suppress evidence that would reveal how much it knew of the attack plot —and didn’t do anything to stop it.
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/bush-administration-covered-saudi-connection-911/

Wanted For Mass Murder and Treason
(http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-content/themes/goodnews47/framework/scripts/timthumb.php?src=http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/911-world-trade-center-ARTICLE-SIZE.jpg&h=315&w=599&zc=1)
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on September 11, 2015, 04:00:41 pm
Hani Hanjour, Khalid Almihdhar, and Nawaf Alhazmi had checked into the Marriott Residence Inn in Herndon, Virginia, on September 10th 2001. All three men were Saudi nationals. They were on flight 77 into the Pentagon in the morning. Hani was the pilot.

Also on September 10th 2001, a Saudi man named Saleh Ibn Abdul Rahman Hussayen checks in to the Marriott Residence Inn. He was apparently at another hotel but moved to this one.

Hussayen is interviewed by the FBI shortly after 9/11, but according to testimony from an FBI agent, the interview is cut short when Hussayen feigns a seizure, prompting the agents to take him to a hospital, where the attending physicians find nothing wrong with him. The FBI recommends that Hussayen should not be allowed to leave until a follow-up interview could occur. According to authors Joe and Susan Trento, “Because of pressure from Saudi ambassador to the US Prince Bandar on the Bush administration" the FBI is overruled.

Bandars wife, Princess Haifa gave between $51,000 and $73,000 to two Saudi families in California who may have financed these two hijackers. All of this could be germane to the classified 28 pages.

Hussayen in fact leaves the country around the time as a whole host of other saudis. About 140 Saudis, including around 24 members of the bin Laden family, are passengers in these flights, starting September 14th-19th. The story about the extent of his FBI debriefing is vague, there could have been days for follow up interviews but I just can't find any FBI records on him.

Hussayen was in fact a long time director of the SAAR foundation. There are many many Islamic religious charities but they seemed to be all run by one coordinating organisation which was the SAAR foundation. So effectively money going to the Jihad, including in Afghanistan, through the 80s and 90s was overseen by SAAR. Hussayen was a director there in the 1990s. In 2001 he had arrived again in the US in August and was touring a variety of charities in the country.

A few months after 9/11 Hussayen is then made a minister of the Saudi government and named President of the Affairs of the Holy Mosques.

Also his cousin a graduate student at the University of Idaho, is later arrested on charges of visa fraud and conspiring to provide material support to terrorists. Though found not guilty, the arrest had something to do with IANA, an organization which was apparently expressly advocating suicide attacks and using airliners as weapons in the months before 9/11.

Sheikh Hussayen died Friday 5 April 2013, taking any secrets he had to his grave with him. Efforts to declassify the 28 Pages began in December of 2013.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: worcesteradam on September 11, 2015, 04:06:10 pm
They already have an established contact at LA. Working for the Saudi Government at their embassy in LA with diplomatic status-Fahad Al-Thumairy.

From FBI Investigation:

Information from FBI New York has revealed that on 12/31/1999, SAID SALEH BIN ATTASH, aka "KHALLAD" was a passenger from Bangkok to Los Angeles. Bin Attash is the alleged mastermind behind the bombing of USS Cole in Aden, Yemen. NewYork indicated that they had no record of Bin Attash actually entering the United States from that flight. New York opined that certain diplomatic arrangements exist at various airports which allow diplomats to meet incoming foreign nationals at the baggage carousels. New York opined that it may have been possible that someone from the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles may have met Khallad and escorted him through customs.
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

Based on a "need to know" basis, I doubt that KSM or Attash even knew who Bayoumi was. Bayoumi was brought on board by Al-Thumairy. The reason these guys(Attash-KSM-Binalshibh) are stuck in Gitmo being tortured for decades is so we can never put Attash or KSM on the stand for questions. The 9-11 commission said the CIA told them that under interrogation KSM denied knowing Al-Bayoumi. But that isn't the question. The question for Attash and KSM is their relationship with Thumairy.

This CIA Doc. shows that Thumairy is indeed in contact with Attash.

Bin Attash was seen in the company of Los Angeles-based Sunni Extremists ____________________________________________Fahad al-(Thumairy)" -- page 96/355
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/CIA-911-Binder1.pdf

Thanks for this. Weird how I had no idea Khallad bin Attash travelled to LA with the other two. This must be a leading contends for what is being kept secret.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jofortruth on November 17, 2015, 07:35:11 am
Have you read the book "False Flag 911 How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World" by Philip Marshall: (Yes, the 28 pgs needs to be released. However, as long as you have Clintons, Bushes, Obamas (or their buddies who keep their secrets) in the White House or in high places in government, they will never expose their own treasonous acts nor will they ever be punished for those treasonous acts.)
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?s=7d02bf40c1b087151f766ecbf79b6268&showtopic=12075&view=getnewpost
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on December 22, 2015, 06:12:34 pm
Have you read the book "False Flag 911 How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World" by Philip Marshall

His book I read had a different title but I think it's essentially the same thing....

The Big Bamboozle: 9/11 and the War on Terror
http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Bamboozle-War-Terror/dp/1468094580

He's one of the few people who have studied the Joint Inquiry Report, and realizes how damning it actually is. I don't agree with some speculations he has but consider it one of the better books factually out there and was glad to see at least somebody else covering these issues. What a sad weird ending for him and his family.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on February 18, 2016, 04:13:51 am
Trump and Jeb Argue About George W. Bush, Iraq, and 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cxTaaNZrw

Hey, Jeb- if you think Trump is being mean by calling your brother a liar, what do you think will happen when he reads the 28 pages that show he's also a traitor?

Press Conference to Declassify the 28 Pages of the Congressional Joint Inquiry Report on 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKRExGJXhH0

Jeb Bush: "I Don't Know What The 28 Pages Are"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL2ZvGL9Www

Sure you don't. Unfortunately, your poll numbers say you won't get your hands on them. If Trump becomes president, maybe he will declassify them for you. 

Exclusive: Jeb Bush Mocks 9/11 Victims' Families
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lskMwrLuwWM

"Stop being mean or I'll call my mommy"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbX0PPDW4AEUACQ.jpg:large)

For those that aren't aware of this yet check it out...

www.JebBush.com

LoL!

Jeb, you are to stupid to be president. Registering websites such as the one above should have been common sense if running for president with millions of dollars.
 
You walked into a trap. You brought George Bush Al Saud into the debate. Let's discuss a cover-up. Do you know what treason means?
Your brother had more US Patriots killed in Iraq than his Terrorist partners had killed on 9/11.

The September 11 attacks killed 2,996 people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks

Military Fatalities By Year
Total 4495

http://icasualties.org/

Documented civilian deaths from violence

152,253 – 172,281

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Mass murder and treason is not very nice.

February 16, 2016
In his most political speech since he left office in 2009, George W. Bush said voters should choose a candidate who is "measured and thoughtful" over the loudest and angriest man in the room.

In a speech that was largely centered around national security and terrorism, Bush reflected on the attacks of September 11, 2001 -- and the "tough calls" he had to make in the days that followed — as he presented his brother as the most "measured and thoughtful" candidate in the GOP pack.


"When Americans woke up on September 11, we did not know that the world was forever changed that day," Bush said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/15/politics/george-w-bush-jeb-bush-south-carolina/

Welcome to the debates George! I think Trump's been expecting you!

Posted on February 17, 2016
Donald Trump on 9/11: "You Will Find Out Who Really Knocked Down The World Trade Center"

At a Wednesday morning campaign event in Bluffton, SC, Donald Trump takes his relitigation of the Bush administration's record on 9/11 and Iraq to the next level, seeming to imply that we don't currently know who "really" committed the 9/11 attacks.

Trump says if he is elected: "you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center."

"It wasn't the Iraqis," he explained. "You may find it's the Saudis."

"They have papers in there that are very secret," he also said, referencing the 28 still-classified pages of the 9/11 commission report. "But you will find out."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/17/trump_you_will_find_out_who_really_knocked_down_the_world_trade_center_secret_papers_may_blame_saudis.html

referencing the 28 still-classified pages of the 9/11 commission report

No, he was referencing the joint inquiry report, not the 9/11 commission report but, hey, whatever
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on February 23, 2016, 12:00:48 pm
But there was another intelligence agency that knew about these terrorists. In fact they and the CIA seemed to share quite a bit. According to Lawrence Wright in his Pulitzer Prize winning book "The Looming Tower"..........

"The CIA already had the names of Mihdhar and Hazmi, however. Saeed Badeeb, Prince Turki's chief analyst in Saudi intelligence, had previously alerted his American colleagues that they were members of al_Qaeda in one of the monthly meetings in Riyadh." page 310
http://www.amazon.com/The-Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road/dp/037541486X

The CIA did their part, now the Saudi Intelligence would do theirs.......

I've tried to get debunkers to debunk this stuff, but I don't see that happening...

28th January 2016, 06:35 PM     #248
jimd3100
A short list of who disagrees with you...

FBI USS Cole Lead Investigator Ali Soufan
FBI ALEC station officer Mark Rossini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzkd0C2t2s8

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11100134&postcount=248

Both Soufan and Rossini joined Lawrence Wright for this just released Doc exposing the CIA role
(http://www.allhatnocattle.net/george_bush_cia_headquarters_sign.jpg)

Released on 2/16/2016
THE AGENT
In a short documentary directed by Alex Gibney, Lawrence Wright and others discuss what the C.I.A. knew about the 9/11 hijackers—before 9/11.


http://video.newyorker.com/watch/the-new-yorker-presents-the-agent-gibney

Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on March 01, 2016, 04:28:37 pm
No, he was referencing the joint inquiry report, not the 9/11 commission report but, hey, whatever

Actually lots of people tend to confuse the 9-11 Commission report with the Joint Inquiry report that contains the 28 pages.

Even people chairing the 9-11 Commission ........

Lee Hamilton and Tom Kean were the two co-chairman.....

1/7/15
In July, the two co-chairman of a separate inquiry, commonly known as the 9/11 Commission, likewise urged the White House to declassify the 28 pages.
 

(http://artsblog.dallasnews.com/files/2013/09/really-seth-and-amy.jpeg)

“I’m embarrassed that they’re not declassified,“ former Rep. Lee Hamilton (D-Ind) said at a press conference with his co-chair Tom Kean, the former Republican governor of New Jersey. “I assumed all along that our records would be public—all of them, everything. And when I learned that a number of documents were classified or were even redacted, I was surprised and disappointed. I am embarrassed to be associated with a work product that is secret.”
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

He's surprised, disappointed, and embarrassed!

Yea, right.......

The other co-chairman Tom Kean:

Referring to widely reported connections between Saudis and two future hijackers in Southern California, Kean added, “We did research on that particular episode in San Diego with Saudi Arabia and believe if you read the 9/11 report you'll find you want to find about that particular section. There is no reason to classify it anymore.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

Whatever that is supposed to mean.

Their live-streamed press conference at the Bipartisan Policy Center in Washington, D.C. received considerable attention.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

It was a show.

But Hamilton told Newsweek that he did not favor declassification of the 28 pages from the congressional investigation, just his own 9/11 Commission report. “I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said in a telephone interview.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

Well, everyone else that's read them, except for Zelikow seem to want them released. What did he think about the pages when he read them?

He added that he had "never read" that section of the other probe and “I don’t know what’s in it….
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

huh?

“I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said

Why not?

"never read" that section of the other probe and “I don’t know what’s in it….

What? Never read it? Why not? WTF?

No one ever came to me and said you ought to read these pages.” (He later amended that to say, “I can’t say I’ve never read them; I have no recollection of having read them.”)
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

Huh? WTF?? Wasn't he interested? How is this not beyond incompetence? Would he be interested in knowing what he was supposed to be finding answers to? Investigating this further? Am I suppose to assume he didn't even read the Joint Inquiry at all? If he was paid from taxpayer money, he's guilty of fraud.

Does he have any interest at all in them? I hear it's quite interesting. No?...

He evinced no interest in reading them now.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

So the co chairman of the 9-11 Commission - even now after all these years, still can't be convinced that looking at the 28 pages is worth putting your pants on for? No interest in ever seeing them at all huh?
 
“I haven't asked. I don’t think I would,” he said.
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

(https://goldilockshares.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/schmuck.jpg)

I don’t know what’s in it….
“I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said


Take a nap. I bet you sleep real good to.

The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the 9-11 Commission), is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks
http://www.9-11commission.gov/

As chairman of the House Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran (1987), Hamilton chose not to investigate President Ronald Reagan or President George H. W. Bush

Hamilton was later chair of the House October Surprise Task Force

Congress announced the formation of the Iraq Study Group, organized by the United States Institute of Peace, of which Hamilton is the Democratic co-chairman

On February 25, 2011 Mr. Hamilton wrote a letter to President Barack Obama urging him to commute Jonathan Pollard's sentence to time served.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_H._Hamilton

On July 28, 2015 the U.S. Parole Commission announced that Pollard would be released on November 20, 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard#Parole

I ripped off the American Taxpayer-engaged in cover ups and all I got was this medal!
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/eae38263bd1bcd6b1c93f19e14131425be2144ad/c=334-0-3212-2164&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2015/11/24/Indianapolis/Indianapolis/635839916653561047-Hamilto-medal.jpg)
Title: Classified 28 pages segment on 60 minutes
Post by: jimd3100 on April 10, 2016, 12:58:23 pm
60 minutes will have segment on 28 pages

Top secret "28 pages" may hold clues about Saudi support for 9/11 hijackers

Graham speaks to Steve Kroft for 60 Minutes report to be broadcast Sunday, April 10 at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

In addition to Graham and Goss, Kroft also speaks to former 9/11 Commission members U.S. Sen. Bob Kerrey and former Navy Secretary John Lehman; lawyers for family members of attack victims suing the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia; and to Tim Roemer, former Democratic U.S. Representative from Indiana who was the only person to serve on both Congress' Joint Inquiry and the 9/11 Commission. All of the former U.S. officials have read the redacted pages.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-secret-28-pages-may-hold-clues-about-saudi-support-for-911-hijackers/

They should have Judge Daniels on the show to explain how it was Iran that did
9-11, since he found them guilty and ordered them to pay 10.5 billion dollars, he saw no evidence for Saudi Arabia being guilty. LOL! That's the world I'm living in. But he's probably to busy having his wife fight off girlfriends he no longer wants to bang.....

Iran ordered to pay $10.5 billion for 9/11 by US judge
Published time: 10 Mar 2016

A US judge ordered Iran to pay over $10 billion in damages to families of victims who died on September 11, 2001 – even though there is no evidence of Tehran’s direct connection to the attack. The same judge earlier cleared Saudi Arabia from culpability.
The default judgement was issued by US District Judge George Daniels in New York on Wednesday

https://www.rt.com/usa/335174-iran-damages-september-911-victims/

Quote
But he's probably to busy having his wife fight off girlfriends he no longer wants to bang.....

The following is from:
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http://www.reportmyex.com/about/

Meet Judge Daniels:

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Don’t be fooled by this man because he is a judge. George Benjamin Daniels is a federal judge for the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. This man is married and will never leave his wife for you. And when he is done with you his wife will “accidentally” find out about you. Then the harassing phone calls and the threats will start. He wont defend you and has been known to take his wife to his girlfriends house to keep the fireworks going. Beware ladies this mans game is good but in the end all you are to him is a game.
http://www.reportmyex.com/george-benjamin-daniels-manhattan-new-york/
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 18, 2016, 10:02:09 am
So is this the light at the end of the tunnel?


http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/04/18/paul-sperry-release-28-pages-can-end-suicidal-phony-alliance-saudi-arabia/
Paul Sperry: Release the 28 Pages So We Can ‘End This Suicidal Phony Alliance with Saudi Arabia’

Investigative journalist and Hoover Institution media fellow Paul Sperry appeared on Breitbart News Daily with host Stephen K. Bannon on Monday morning to talk about the potential release of the “28 Pages” of long-classified documents that may demonstrate Saudi complicity in the 9/11 attacks.

Sperry, author of Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington, published an article in the New York Post this weekend about “how the U.S. covered up the Saudi role in 9/11.”  In that article, Sperry discusses many interviews with intelligence and law-enforcement officers who say “virtually every road” from the 9/11 attacks “led back to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, as well as the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles” — but investigators were constantly told to back off from pursuing those leads.

...

He thought the Saudis probably shared that expectation, given their surprisingly blunt threats to wage economic warfare against the United States if the documents are declassified. 

“It’s an empty threat, but it shows just how worried they are, that this information is going to get out there, and they’re going to be held liable,” he said, adding that he’s been told “there’s enough information in those 28 pages to bring indictments against Saudi officials.”

...

| - - - -

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill


WASHINGTON — Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.



The Obama administration has lobbied Congress to block the bill’s passage, according to administration officials and congressional aides from both parties, and the Saudi threats have been the subject of intense discussions in recent weeks between lawmakers and officials from the State Department and the Pentagon. The officials have warned senators of diplomatic and economic fallout from the legislation.

Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, delivered the kingdom’s message personally last month during a trip to Washington, telling lawmakers that Saudi Arabia would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they could be in danger of being frozen by American courts.

...
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Rex on April 18, 2016, 04:12:45 pm
An interesting piece:

Report: 15 of the 19 “hijackers” on 9/11 were CIA agents, never on the plane

(INTELLIHUB) — According to a newly released report, 15 of the 19 Saudi Arabian “hijackers” were actually CIA agents who were, at the time, covertly working with rogue factions of the U.S. Military Industrial Complex to carry out a sinister multifaceted, multi-vectored, plot to loot billions if not trillions of taxpayer dollars from the Corporation of the United States, later funneling the loot into private corporations through defense appropriated funding and numerous no-bid contracts related to the roll-out of the PATRIOT Act....

https://www.intellihub.com/report-15-19-hijackers-911-cia-agents/

Don't think I've seen this type of info before.  Anyone know if it's valid?  From day one I asked myself who benefited from 9/11, and it sure wasn't the Muslim countries.  If the above is true, then it may be that the "28 pages" are being used to set the Saudis up for U.S. military intervention.  Much like the WMDs were used to justify thumping Iraq.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on April 20, 2016, 08:16:36 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/04/18/paul-sperry-release-28-pages-can-end-suicidal-phony-alliance-saudi-arabia/
Paul Sperry: Release the 28 Pages So We Can ‘End This Suicidal Phony Alliance with Saudi Arabia’

In that article, Sperry discusses many interviews with intelligence and law-enforcement officers who say “virtually every road” from the 9/11 attacks “led back to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, as well as the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles” — but investigators were constantly told to back off from pursuing those leads.

“It’s an empty threat, but it shows just how worried they are, that this information is going to get out there, and they’re going to be held liable,” he said, adding that he’s been told “there’s enough information in those 28 pages to bring indictments against Saudi officials.”

Paul Sperry has done some of the best articles on the Saudi cover up. Trust me - Sperry knows a lot - he's on board -and knows what treason is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill

WASHINGTON — Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The Obama administration has lobbied Congress to block the bill’s passage, according to administration officials and congressional aides from both parties, and the Saudi threats have been the subject of intense discussions in recent weeks between lawmakers and officials from the State Department and the Pentagon. The officials have warned senators of diplomatic and economic fallout from the legislation.

Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, delivered the kingdom’s message personally last month during a trip to Washington, telling lawmakers that Saudi Arabia would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they could be in danger of being frozen by American courts.

Speaking of Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister

According to this FBI Document Osama Basnan:

"has been in contact with UBL family members; ardent UBL supporter"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

and:

4. Associations: Closely associated with___________________(former assistant to ______________________).
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

This is the same document with different redaction's telling us more.....

4. Associations: Closely associated with ________________________Ambassador Prince Bandar).  page 2/6
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008082249/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

So put together we can eliminate some redactions....

4. Associations: Closely associated with___________________(former assistant to Ambassador Prince Bandar).  page 2/6
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008082249/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

The "(former assistant to Ambassador Prince Bandar)." whose name is being redacted is most likely Adel Al-Jubeir.

"In 1987, Al-Jubeir was appointed into the Saudi Diplomatic Service and posted to the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia in Washington, DC, where he served as Special Assistant to then Ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adel_al-Jubeir

Al-Jubeir even admits that Prince Bandar gave money to Basnan, an "ardent UBL supporter" .......

"Saudi officials say Bandar and al-Faisal transferred tens of thousands of dollars to a Saudi named Osama Basnan and his Jordanian wife, Magda Ibrahim Dweikat.

Al-Jubeir said Bandar gave charitable donations to Basnan to help cover his wife's medical bills starting in 1998 and that al-Faisal separately gave regular monthly payments to Dweikat, who used her maiden name, which would not call attention to her marriage to Basnan."

http://amarillo.com/stories/2003/08/02/usn_reportlinks.shtml

He doesn't want the work of the FBI PENTTBOM investigators and the Joint Inquiry released either of course so he can say things like.......

"We have consistently maintained that neither al-Bayoumi nor Basnan were agents of the Saudi government, and our investigation as well as those of the US government and the British have found no involvement by them with Sept. 11," said Adel al-Jubeir, foreign affairs adviser to Saudi Arabia's crown prince.

"As it turns out, this whole controversy was much ado about nothing. Another myth has been dispelled."
-Adel al-Jubeir
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/03/25/fbi_concludes_pair_werent_saudi_agents/

neither al-Bayoumi nor Basnan were agents of the Saudi government, and our investigation as well as those of the US government and the British have found no involvement by them with Sept. 11," said Adel al-Jubeir

Yea, ignore this...

The title of the Amazing FBI report is called........

"Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects to the Government of Saudi Arabia"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140723212512/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

Although heavily redacted they are describing Agents Basnan and Bayoumi and their connections to Bandar.

So Osama Basnan, an "ardent UBL supporter", is "Closely associated with" Adel al-Jubeir former assistant to Ambassador Prince Bandar

; has been in contact with UBL family members; ardent UBL supporter;
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

I'd be nervous if I were him to. Like his terrorist turd friends King George Bush Al Saud, and Prince Bandar he likes making threats.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on April 20, 2016, 08:30:41 pm
An interesting piece:
Not Really

Report: 15 of the 19 “hijackers” on 9/11 were CIA agents, never on the plane
What report? I'd like to read this report if it's been released.

(INTELLIHUB) — According to a newly released report

So this report has been released? Good! Where is it? Who released it? What's the title of it? Where can I read it?

Don't think I've seen this type of info before. Anyone know if it's valid?

No. It's not valid.
It's just as valid as the report that contains this information. This report doesn't exist. There is not a "newly released report". It's just Kevin Barrett spreading disinformation like he's done for years, and horrible reporting.
Don't believe me? Then show me the report. Tell me ANYTHING about this report? There is no report. It's Barrett, blabbering his conspiracy theories, and let me repeat.......based on a report that was newly released, that no one has seen, because it doesn't exist. It's BS.

From day one I asked myself who benefited from 9/11, and it sure wasn't the Muslim countries.

It depends on what Muslim countries you refferring to.
Congressional Record: October 28, 2003 (Senate)
Page S13349-S13372

There is a further irony that some of those countries, which are disclosed in the 28 censored pages as having been complicitous with the  terrorists, are among the list of those creditors of Iraq that are going to get this indirect economic benefit.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/s102803.html

That would be a Muslim Country called Saudi Arabia

If the above is true, then it may be that the "28 pages" are being used to set the Saudis up for U.S. military intervention.  Much like the WMDs were used to justify thumping Iraq.

But the above isn't true. However, in 9-11 truther conspiracy land.....you know...the land where Islamic terrorists don't exist, and all evil emanates from Zionist Jews, and their old Goyim white American conspiracy partners who devise ways of framing nice innocent Muslims? In this land of make believe, that Barrett promotes, makes the nice innocent Muslims of Saudi Arabia with all their Oil the next target, in this.... years in the making, well planned out, convoluted incredibly risky, and somewhat stupid conspiracy, this conspiracy theories' end game is to go to war against Saudi Arabia, over a decade later. The conspiracy plan all along!! Because(the theory goes) no one will ever realize that Saudi Arabia was protected from day one. No one would ever realize that this is the worst case of treason in U.S. History. Instead, the sheeple, will realize that these darn pages that were kept from them expose Saudi Arabia, and now finally......they can go to war against the REAL evil doers. The 9-11 End Game the Zionists and their white American slaves devised years ago. All Muslims are innocent and not involved. Or....so the Conspiracy Theory goes.

If 9-11 truthers do think the American public, is actually so f&%$ing stupid they will never realize that their Government deliberately kept them from knowing the truth of 9-11. That Al Qaeda was created and financed by Saudi Arabia, with the full blessing and support of the highest levels of the U.S. Government and then were used to attack the U.S. With the full support and blessing(not to mention assistance of elements) of the U.S. Government That the U.S. Government called Saudi Arabia "friends" and protected them while attacking and marginalizing Saudi Arabia's enemies, while at the same time covering up the role of Saudi Arabia, only to attack them as well when the American people realize what the cover up was. I'd think that 9-11 truthers could be more effective exposing the real proven cover ups and conspiracies, rather than these make believe "theories". If the American people are that stupid, I would think that for 9-11 truthers it would make it that much more important to expose that....

This is the worst case of Treason and Mass Murder in U.S. History.

The disgusting Government of Saudi Arabia, is not my friend, and neither are the U.S. traitors that assisted in the murder and cover up of the 9-11 attacks that kick-started the world wide Islamic terrorism and the Sunni/Shiite religious civil war we have to deal with today. The 28 pages are not just a threat to high levels of the Saudi and American Government. They are also a threat to those promoting false conspiracy theories that they were duped into believing, and wont let go of.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 21, 2016, 01:54:49 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3551863/Rudy-Giuliani-suggests-Saudi-Arabia-involved-9-11-attacks-reveals-offered-10MILLION-prince-Obama-cozies-King-Salman-trip-Middle-East.html

Former Mayor of New York Rudy Giuliani (inset) has revealed that he was offered a $10million check from a Saudi Arabian prince in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. Giuliani, who was mayor of the city when two hijacked planes were flown into the World Trade Center towers, said he tore up the check and said the high ranking official could 'burn it in hell'. In an impassioned plea this morning,

Giuliani urged Obama to release 28 pages of a report on the attacks that have been kept secret and are believed to show Saudi involvement in the atrocity. The row over the secret papers dragged on as Obama met with King Salman (pictured together, left and right) in Saudi Arabia, but failed to bring up the alleged connections to the September 11 attacks yet again.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: larsonstdoc on April 21, 2016, 02:03:04 pm
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/04/debunking-the-28-pages-of-the-911-report.html?utm_source=Activist+Post+Subscribers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6ec6d65a43-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_b0c7fb76bd-6ec6d65a43-387901389

  James Corbett video at the link....

Debunking The 28 Pages Of The 9/11 Report



Today James joins Dan Dicks on PFT Live to discuss the 28 pages and the move to blame Saudi Arabia for 9/11. What are the 28 pages really about? Is this really a step forward for 9/11 truth or a step back? Are the Saudis threatening to crash the dollar if they’re hung out to dry? Join James and Dan for the lowdown on the latest 9/11 propaganda.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on April 27, 2016, 12:25:42 am

  James Corbett video at the link....

Debunking The 28 Pages Of The 9/11 Report


^          ^
nonsense

The whole 9/11 truth: Release the 28 classified pages, whatever they may say about Saudi Arabia
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, April 26, 2016


Americans have waited far too long for the fullest possible historical accounting of the events that led up to 9/11 — including all support given to the hijackers by anyone in Saudi Arabia.

But the Bush administration classified 28 pages of the document, focusing on potential Saudi involvement in facilitating the hijackers, 15 of 19 of whom were Saudis.

Conspiracy theories abound about why, for instance, three planeloads of Saudi nationals were evacuated from the U.S. in the days after the 9/11 despite a total flight ban.

Truth was sacrificed for the sake of the supposedly higher good of diplomatic relations with a long-time ally and oil producer. Struggle to justify secrecy, as you might try to do in retrospect, today there are no grounds for squelching facts for diplo-convenience.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/9-11-truth-article-1.2614086

"Truth was sacrificed for the sake of the supposedly higher good of diplomatic relations with a long-time ally and oil producer."

"the supposedly higher good" = Conspiracy Theory created to run away from the Treason and Mass Murder of reality.

Running away from the truth as it finally crawls into their consciousness. Stop being scared little girls and help everyone figure out how to get through this without a series of catastrophes happening.
Title: How they will try and Spin "The 28 pages"
Post by: jimd3100 on April 27, 2016, 08:17:17 pm
How They Will Spin "The 28 Pages"

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration will likely soon release at least part of a 28-page secret chapter from a congressional inquiry into 9/11 that may shed light on possible Saudi connections to the attackers.
http://nypost.com/2016/04/24/obama-may-finally-reveal-secret-saudi-connection-to-911/

Most likely, the part released will be about those dastardly Saudi's. The part not released will be their partners in crime which is why they've never been concerned about retaliation from the U.S. It was America's idea. They were warned. They knew what was coming. It wasn't a surprise.

Prior Knowledge of 9/11
by Robert Schopmeyer

http://www.amazon.com/Prior-Knowledge-11-Robert-Schopmeyer-ebook/dp/B0041VYL9K


Disconnecting the Dots: How 9/11 Was Allowed to Happen 
by Kevin Fenton

http://www.amazon.com/Disconnecting-Dots-How-Allowed-Happen/dp/0984185852/ref=sr_1_1_twi_pap_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461804393&sr=1-1&keywords=disconnecting+the+dots

The Eleventh Day: The Full Story of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden
by Anthony Summers, Robbyn Swan

http://www.amazon.com/Eleventh-Day-Story-Osama-Laden/dp/140006659X/ref=sr_1_1_twi_har_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461804437&sr=1-1&keywords=the+eleventh+day

INTELLIGENCE MATTERS: The CIA, the FBI, Saudi Arabia, and the Failure of America's War on Terror
by Senator Bob Graham
http://www.amazon.com/Bob-Graham/e/B001J3U318/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

http://video.newyorker.com/watch/the-new-yorker-presents-the-agent-gibney

Release all 28 pages you cowards!

The Saudi's are already on record giving their side.....

U.S. and Saudi officials, in rare interviews discussing joint intelligence operations, have told The Associated Press that Saudi Arabia has secretly provided the United States with several diplomatic and intelligence favors in the war on terrorism.

The Saudis counter they initiated the first joint terrorism task force with U.S. intelligence as early as 1997 and say they were, at times, bewildered to receive duplicative requests from multiple U.S. agencies, all unaware that another federal agency already had the information.

Saudi Arabia's former intelligence chief said in an AP interview his government determined in late 1999 or early 2000 that eventual Sept. 11 hijackers Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were Al Qaeda terrorists being sought in two terror plots.

Prince Turki al Faisal alleges his intelligence agency told the CIA in late 1999 and early 2000 that the kingdom had placed both men on its own terror watch list after learning from Al Qaeda prisoners and intelligence intercepts that al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi might be connected to 1998 Al Qaeda attacks on U.S. embassies in Africa and a 1997 effort to smuggle weapons.

"What we told them was these people were on our watch list from previous activities of Al Qaeda, in both the embassy bombings and attempts to smuggle arms into the kingdom in 1997," Turki said.

CIA officials deny receiving such information until after the suicide hijackings occurred.

"There is not a shred of evidence that Saudi intelligence provided CIA any information about al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi prior to Sept. 11 as they have described," spokesman Bill Harlow said. "There have been exhaustive examinations of our records, not only by us, but by congressional inquiries and no such records have surfaced.

U.S. and Saudi officials confirm the Saudis created a terror task force as early as 1997 to exchange information with the United States. They usually met once a month either in Riyadh or Washington.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/10/16/saudis-us-disclose-intel-operations-on-terror.html

The part not released will most likely be the "embarrassing mistakes of the CIA" and the President "who knew nothing about nothing" because his friends(Bandar) and employees(Tenet) never told him "anything about anything."

Tenet Concedes CIA Made Mistakes
April 15, 2004


CIA Director George J. Tenet acknowledged yesterday that he did not brief President Bush, FBI leaders or Cabinet members after he was informed in late August 2001 of the arrest of Zacarias Moussaoui, who would later be charged as a conspirator in the terror attacks. The briefing for Tenet was titled "Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly."

"We made mistakes," Tenet told the panel yesterday, referring to the general failure to detect the terror plot that left 3,000 people dead.

In one of its more stinging case studies, the staff report noted that Tenet learned on Aug. 23 or 24, 2001, about the arrest in Minnesota a week earlier of Moussaoui, a suspected jihadist who was attempting to learn how to fly jetliners.

Tenet said he did not tell President Bush, who was vacationing in Texas, or FBI management about the development.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13122-2004Apr14.html

See? The President was all the way down in Texas. How would anyone be able to tell the President anything when he's not in the same room? Call? Email? Well......what about security? To risky probably.

"I never saw the President in August. He's down in Texas" - CIA Director George Tenet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cIo33eVSKg

If the CIA director had something top secret to tell the President, he would have to fly to Texas and meet President Bush face to face. Oh......BTW....that is exactly what happened. You are supposed to pretend the following doesn't exist. The white house's own website proves he did just that.........

Office of the Press Secretary
August 25, 2001
Remarks by the President
Crawford, Texas


Q    When you have those business meetings, like the Joint Chiefs briefing, do you like to keep it separate from the living quarters on the ranch?

THE PRESIDENT:  The CIA briefings, I have on our porch, the end of our porch looking out over the lake.  When Tenet came up, that's where we visited, out there.

You know, everybody wants to see the ranch, which I'm proud to show it off.  So George Tenet and I -- yesterday, we piled in the new nominees for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the Vice Chairman and their wives and went right up the canyon.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010913060300/http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010825-2.html

ooops!

So? What you just read is irrelevant. Don't believe me? See for yourself here.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cIo33eVSKg

No one dares call him or the President on this BS. How come?

So the story will go like this...

So really, turns out it's no ones fault. Sure Saudi Arabia created and ran the terrorists, but they told America all about them and what they were up to. so it's not their fault.....The President's buddy, Bandar Bush explains....

"Everyone is smarter after 9-11. Everyone missed the mark prior to 9-11. No one country can be blamed," said Prince Bandar, the longtime Saudi ambassador to Washington.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/10/16/saudis-us-disclose-intel-operations-on-terror.html

Sure, they knew there were terrorists in America. Our buddy Bandar tried to tell us.....

Speaking to the Arabic satellite network Al-Arabiya on Thursday, Bandar -- now Abdullah's national security adviser -- said Saudi intelligence was "actively following" most of the September 11, 2001, plotters "with precision."

"If U.S. security authorities had engaged their Saudi counterparts in a serious and credible manner, in my opinion, we would have avoided what happened," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/01/saudiarabia.terrorism/

Did he tell the 9-11 Commission this in his interview with them?

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610777

I'm sure Lee Hamilton is fighting like hell to get that declassified. Right?

“I assumed, incorrectly, that our records would be public,” Hamilton said. “All of them, everything. I want those documents declassified. I’m embarrassed to be associated with a work product that is secret.” - Lee Hamilton
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/09/911-comm-chair-embarrassed-that-u-s-still-keeps-most-records-secret/

Go gettem' tiger! You are a joke.

Saudi Arabia isn't going to arrest anyone or do anything (other than help the terrorists)in America. It's not their jurisdiction.

As to the question......Why would Saudi Arabia want to attack America?
Ans: They wouldn't. They told America what was happening, that was a decision America made. That was on them, according to the Saudis.

It seems that the Saudi's shared information, like they claimed. And that information was not shared by the CIA, to the FBI investigators trying to stop Al Qaeda from killing more people.

See -

http://video.newyorker.com/watch/the-new-yorker-presents-the-agent-gibney

To think the CIA kept this information from the President as well, seems a bit far-fetched. The President seems to think his CIA did just fine.

Pulitzer Prize winning book:

"The CIA already had the names of Mihdhar and Hazmi, however. Saeed Badeeb, Prince Turki's chief analyst in Saudi intelligence, had previously alerted his American colleagues that they were members of al_Qaeda in one of the monthly meetings in Riyadh." page 310
http://www.amazon.com/The-Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road/dp/037541486X

And they do agree on this...

U.S. and Saudi officials confirm the Saudis created a terror task force as early as 1997 to exchange information with the United States. They usually met once a month either in Riyadh or Washington.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/10/16/saudis-us-disclose-intel-operations-on-terror.html

So the story will be.......

Saudis: We tried to warn them
CIA/President : Mistakes were made - No one's perfect.

Mistakes(giant ones)along with perjury gets you millions of dollars, a Presidential Medal of Freedom Award, and if you're The President - a second term.

I'm not going along with it. It's way past time for the liars, traitors, and murderers to face justice.   

Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on May 01, 2016, 05:25:13 pm
Oh now the CIA establishment TRIES to provide cover  ....

CIA director says the 28 classified pages from 9/11 report contains 'uncorroborated, un-vetted' and 'very inaccurate' information about Saudi Arabia's role in terror attack
John Brennan told NBC's Chuck Todd on Meet The Press the US's [CIA's] relationship with the Saudi government was 'very strong'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568526/CIA-director-says-28-classified-pages-9-11-report-contains-uncorroborated-vetted-inaccurate-information-Saudi-Arabia-s-role-terror-attack.html#ixzz47RfcpTCd
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Oh yeah this JackA_ss has been right on top of it ...:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan
...
In 1996 he was CIA station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia when the Khobar Towers bombing killed 19 U.S. servicemen.[5]

In 1999 he was appointed chief of staff to George Tenet, then-Director of the CIA.[3][5]
Brennan became deputy executive director of the CIA in March 2001.[3]

He was director of the newly created Terrorist Threat Integration Center from 2003 to 2004, an office that sifted through and compiled information for President Bush's daily top secret intelligence briefings and employed the services of analysts from a dozen U.S. agencies and entities.[18] One of the controversies in his career involves the distribution of intelligence to the Bush White House that helped lead to an "Orange Terror Alert", over Christmas 2003 ...

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing

so where was he on sept 11 ?

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2014-featured-story-archive/cia-reflects-on-the-anniversary-of-sept-11-2001.html

...

Buzzy Krongard was executive director at the time, and the two of us divided up responsibilities to ensure that we would be able to carry out our mission in the Washington Metropolitan Area and around the world. Despite the dangers, CIA officers focused on what they needed to do, and many of those with counterterrorism responsibilities, in the great tradition of CIA, stayed at their Headquarters posts as they furiously tried to uncover the clues that would pinpoint responsibility for the attacks and, most importantly, what other attacks might be heading our way.
....

And in the days, weeks, months and years that followed that devastating attack against our beautiful homeland, our nation came together as one, resolving to do what would be necessary to prevent another attack. It is my deep hope that the lessons of 9/11, and the national spirit, commitment and resilience that emerged in its aftermath, will never fade.

John O. Brennan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._B._Krongard
9/11[edit]

Krongard's name was brought up in conjunction with investigations into suspected 9/11-related insider trading because of timely Wall Street trades made through the investment bank he used to head, Alex. Brown.[6]

Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on May 01, 2016, 08:36:54 pm
Oh now the CIA establishment TRIES to provide cover  ....

CIA director says the 28 classified pages from 9/11 report contains 'uncorroborated, un-vetted' and 'very inaccurate' information about Saudi Arabia's role in terror attack
John Brennan told NBC's Chuck Todd on Meet The Press the US's [CIA's] relationship with the Saudi government was 'very strong'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568526/CIA-director-says-28-classified-pages-9-11-report-contains-uncorroborated-vetted-inaccurate-information-Saudi-Arabia-s-role-terror-attack.html#ixzz47RfcpTCd
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Oh yeah this JackA_ss has been right on top of it ...:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan

CIA Director John Brennan says documents that could link Saudi Arabia to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified
May 1, 2016

I'm quite puzzled by Sen. Graham and others because what that joint inquiry did was to tee up issues that were followed up on by the 9/11 Commission, as well as the 9/11 Review Commission. So these were thoroughly investigated and reviewed,” he said. “And they came out with a very clear judgment that there was no evidence that indicated that the Saudi government as an institution, or Saudi officials individually, had provided financial support to Al Qaeda.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cia-director-recommends-feds-don-release-classified-9-11-report-article-1.2620864

John Brennan says documents that could link Saudi Arabia to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified

F**k You John Brennan! I am alive and well today. I'm saying and doing this because I can. I happen to know there are dead people who enlisted in the Armed Forces after 9-11 to "fight the evil-doers who hate freedom" just like I did, because they believed their corrupt full of s**t government. They're dead, so they can't say it. 

Let's change this....

John Brennan says documents that could link Saudi Arabia to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified
 
to this.....

John Brennan says documents that could link The CIA to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified

It's the same thing.

see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzkd0C2t2s8

see:

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/our-new-television-show

The Saudi Arabia "link" to 9/11 terrorists, is a "link" to your CIA.

The CIA and the Saudi's have been working together using the brainwashed religious nutjobs from the time they created their Frankenstein. This isn't new. It's old.

In the 1980s, the CIA secretly backed the mujahedin, the Islamic freedom fighters rebelling against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Arming and training the "Mooj" was one of the most successful covert actions ever mounted by the CIA.

veterans of the Mooj's holy war against the Soviets began arriving in the United States--many with passports arranged by the CIA.

Bonded by combat, full of religious zeal, the diaspora of young Arab men willing to die for Allah congregated at the Al-Kifah Refugee Center in Brooklyn, N.Y., a dreary inner-city building that doubled as a recruiting post for the CIA seeking to steer fresh troops to the mujahedin.

Half a world away, people who understood the ferocity of Islamic extremism could see the coming storm. In the late '80s, Pakistan's then head of state, Benazir Bhutto, told the first President George Bush, "You are creating a Frankenstein."

"Blind Sheik" who ranted against the infidels from a run-down mosque in Jersey City. The Blind Sheik's shady past should have been of great interest to the Feds--he had been linked to the plot to assassinate Egyptian President Anwar Sadat in 1981. But the sheik had slipped into the United States with the protection of the CIA, which saw the revered cleric as a valuable recruiting agent for the Mooj.
http://www.newsweek.com/war-terror-road-september-11-151771


Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects to the Government of Saudi Arabia

"has been in contact with UBL family members; ardent UBL supporter"
https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf


4. Associations: Closely associated with ________________________Ambassador Prince Bandar).  page 2/6
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008082249/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf


In 1993, the FBI received reports that Bassnan had hosted a party for the “Blind Sheikh” in Washington, D.C. in 1992. page 228/858

After September 11, the FBI developed information clearly indicating that Bassnan is an extremist and a Bin Ladin supporter. page 229/858
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

John Brennan says documents that could link Saudi Arabia to 9/11 terrorists should be kept classified

Those belong to us. We paid for them. Not just with money but lives. Your CIA is guilty. Just how deep do you want to involve yourself in this treason?

..what that joint inquiry did was to tee up issues that were followed up on by the 9/11 Commission, as well as the 9/11 Review Commission. So these were thoroughly investigated and reviewed,” he said. “And they came out with a very clear judgment that there was no evidence that indicated that the Saudi government as an institution, or Saudi officials individually, had provided financial support to Al Qaeda.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cia-director-recommends-feds-don-release-classified-9-11-report-article-1.2620864

Nizar expressed disbelief about the allegations regarding Princess Haifa, noting that it was preposterous that she was involved in terrorism. Zelikow expressed understanding of this position and explained that the interest was primarily due to the unclear role of Osama Bassnan - if the Commission could learn more about his role, everything could be put in a clearer perspective."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/20556754/MFR-NARA-NA-Saudi-Arabia-Madani-Nizar-10-15-03-01186

According to the commissions own documents he has lots to lie about......

Basnan Interview with Commission:

"The interview failed to yield any new information of note. Instead, in the writer's opinion, it established beyond cavil the witness' utter lack of credibility on virtually every material subject."
https://research.archives.gov/id/2610794

So? Well, let's see what the 9-11 Commission says in rebuttal to the joint inquiry......

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

A search of the 9-11 Commission report shows that Bassnan/Basnan is not even mentioned in the report.

F**k You John Brennan. And instead of a patronizing "thank you for your service", I'd prefer a release of the 28 pages in full and the treason trials to start.

Traitors will be dealt with.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on May 02, 2016, 01:15:06 pm
Remember Obama's passport files?

Two Fired For Looking At Obama's Passport File

"TAC’s Chief Executive Officer John O. Brennan is a former CIA agent who is an adviser to Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign"

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/news/2013/01/13/barack-obama-nominates-ut-alumnus-john-brennan-to-head-of-cia
Barack Obama nominates UT alumnus John Brennan to head of CIA
Published on January 13, 2013
By Joshua Fechter

President Barack Obama’s nomination of a former UT student to lead the CIA may prompt a public debate about the United States’ increased reliance on drone strikes in the War on Terror and past use of enhanced interrogation techniques, according to two UT faculty members.
 
On Jan. 7, Obama nominated John Brennan, who graduated from UT with a Master of Arts in 1980, to serve as CIA director. Brennan is chief counterterrorism adviser to the president and advised Obama on foreign policy during his 2008 presidential campaign. Prior to that, Brennan spent 25 years in the CIA and became deputy director of the CIA in 2001.
 
Obama previously nominated Brennan to head the CIA in 2009, but Brennan withdrew his name from consideration after concerns about his prior support of enhanced interrogation techniques and his possible role in allowing the use of those techniques during former President George W. Bush’s administration arose.
...

http://www.zimbio.com/Sean+McCormack+-+Department+of+State/articles/6/Obama+Intelligence+Adviser+Involved+Security

The State Department has not released the names of the persons responsible for the unauthorized searches but said two were employed by Stanley Inc. and the third was an employee of The Analysis Corp. (TAC). Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, is John O. Brennan. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp.

Stanley Inc., a 3,500-person firm, is an Arlington-based information technology firm that this week won a $570 million contract to continue providing passport services to the State Department, which the company has done since 1992, according to Stanley Inc.’s Web site.

TAC is a McLean-based information firm that has helped the State Department automate the Terrorist Watchlist over the last several years, the company’s Web site said.

TAC’s Chief Executive Officer John O. Brennan is a former CIA agent who is an adviser to Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign.
...
Following the breach, State Department managers met with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph Biden, whose committee has oversight over the Foreign Service and the passport office. Biden will be sworn in as Obama’s vice president on Jan. 20.

The State Department Office of Inspector General (OIG) issued a 104-page report on the breach last July. Although it is stamped “Sensitive but Unclassified,” the report was heavily redacted in the version released to the public, with page after page blacked out entirely.

http://oig.state.gov/documents/organization/109112.pdf

...
Acting Assistant secretary for administration William H. Moser sent a six-page reply concurring with the recommendation, all but one paragraph of which was blacked out because of the sensitivity of the information it contained.

He was George Tenet's pal in the roll up for 9-11..... Deputy Executive Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from March 2001 to March 2003.

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1759

Brennan, a former chief of staff to CIA Director George Tenet, has held a number of senior analyst positions at the agency, including assignments in the Office of Near Eastern and South Asian Analysis. Brennan directed analysis at the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center during the first Gulf War and was the White House daily intelligence briefer in 1994 and 1995.

Mr. Brennan began his career as an intelligence officer in 1980 with the Central Intelligence Agency’s Directorate of Operations as a Career Trainee. After joining the Directorate of Intelligence in 1981, he served with the Department of State as a political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia from 1982 to 1984. From 1984 to 1989, he served in a variety of analytic assignments in the Office of Near Eastern and South Asian Analysis in the Directorate of Intelligence. Mr. Brennan was in charge of terrorism analysis in the DCI’s Counterterrorist Center between 1990 and 1992, including during Desert Shield and Desert Storm

He served as Chief of Station in a major Middle East capital from 1996 to 1999. Mr. Brennan served as DCI Tenet’s Chief of Staff from 1999 to 2001 and as Deputy Executive Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from March 2001 to March 2003.

} - - - - -

2 +2 = ?  

http://www.examiner.com/article/did-john-brennan-remove-birther-evidence-from-obama-s-passport
Did John Brennan remove birther evidence from Obama's passport? (Photos)
January 10, 2013
By: Marv Dumon


On Wednesday, the Supreme Court announced on its website that it will review arguments on Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility to serve as president of the United States in a Feb. 15 conference. (See article)
http://www.examiner.com/article/supreme-court-to-hear-case-on-obama-s-alleged-forged-documents

There may be additional circumstantial evidence favoring birthers such as Donald Trump and Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio who contend that Barack Obama may have used altered government documents and/or fake IDs in order to run for political office (an offense that is considered a felony).

On Jan. 9, WND author Jerome R. Corsi suggested that Obama's recent nominee to head the Central Intelligence Agency, John Brennan, may have played a role in "what many suspect was an effort to sanitize Obama’s passport records" (i.e., remove damaging evidence that the former U.S. senator from Illinois is not eligible to hold
...

On Wednesday, Mr. Corsi wrote that:

the New York Times noted that the files examined likely contained sensitive personal information, including Social Security numbers, addresses and dates of birth, as well as passport applications and other biographical information that would pertain to U.S. citizenship . . . State Department spokesman McCormack had emphasized the most egregious violation appeared to have been made against Obama.

...

Jan. 9, Corsi observed:

“Analysis Corporation was headed by Brennan, a former CIA agent who was then serving as an adviser on intelligence and foreign policy to Sen. Obama’s presidential campaign. After Obama’s inauguration, Brennan joined the White House as assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for homeland security and counter-terrorism.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on May 02, 2016, 10:51:29 pm
Oh now the CIA establishment TRIES to provide cover  ....

CIA director says the 28 classified pages from 9/11 report contains 'uncorroborated, un-vetted' and 'very inaccurate' information about Saudi Arabia's role in terror attack
John Brennan told NBC's Chuck Todd on Meet The Press the US's [CIA's] relationship with the Saudi government was 'very strong'

Paul Sperry has done some of the best articles on the Saudi cover up. Trust me - Sperry knows a lot - he's on board -and knows what treason is.

Sperry responds

The establishment is lying about the 9/11 report
By Paul Sperry            May 2, 2016
I’m told the very first page of the redacted chapter quotes an Aug. 2, 2002, CIA memorandum that found “incontrovertible evidence that there is support for these terrorists within the Saudi government.” Brennan was deputy CIA director at the time.
http://nypost.com/2016/05/02/the-establishment-is-lying-about-the-911-report/
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on May 18, 2016, 10:50:44 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/us/politics/senate-passes-bill-that-would-expose-saudi-arabia-to-legal-jeopardy-over-9-11.html?_r=0
Senate Passes Bill Exposing Saudi Arabia to 9/11 Legal Claims
By MARK MAZZETTIv
MAY 17, 2016
WASHINGTON — A bill that would let the families of those killed in the Sept. 11 attacks sue Saudi Arabia for any role in the terrorist plot passed the Senate unanimously on Tuesday, bringing Congress closer to a showdown with the White House, which has threatened to veto the legislation.

The Senate’s passage of the bill, which will now be taken up in the House, is another sign of escalating tensions in a relationship between the United States and Saudi Arabia that once received little scrutiny from lawmakers.

Administration officials have lobbied against the bill, a view that the White House spokesman Josh Earnest reiterated after the vote. And the Saudi government has warned that if the legislation passes, it might begin selling off up to $750 billion in Treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they face a danger of being frozen by American courts. Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, delivered the warning to lawmakers and the administration while in Washington in March.

...

Questions about the role Saudi officials might have played in the Sept. 11 plot have lingered for more than a decade, and families of the victims have used various lawsuits to try to hold members of the Saudi royal family and charities liable for what they allege is financial support of terrorism.

...

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, a Democrat and a sponsor of the bill
, said the legislation would help the families of the victims seek justice.
...

“If the Saudis did not participate in this terrorism, they have nothing to fear about going to court,” he said. “If they did, they should be held accountable.”

| - - - -

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/saudi-arabia-911-bill-congress/478689/

...



But wait, what role did Saudi Arabia play in the attacks? The 9/11 Commission report said this: “We have found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization.” Just like the proposed change to sovereign foreign immunity, it’s a narrowly tailored sentence.


“You can’t provide the money for terrorists and then say, “I don’t have anything to do with what they're doing,’” Bob Kerrey, the former senator and a member of the 9/11 Commission
, told 60 Minutes recently. “In general, the 9/11 Commission did not get every single detail of the conspiracy. We didn’t. We didn’t have the time, we didn’t have the resources. We certainly didn’t pursue the entire line of inquiry in regard to Saudi Arabia.”

Even then, there’s some information about Saudi involvement that has been gathered but is not yet public. A 2002 joint congressional investigation into intelligence failures ahead of 9/11 produced 28 pages that remain classified, and which are said to shed light on potential Saudi involvement in the attacks—perhaps by lower-level Saudi officials, or by elements of the government but not the government “as an institution.” Former Senator Bob Graham, a Florida Democrat who chaired the Senate side of the committee, has been pushing for years for the 28 pages to be released. Graham (no relation to this reporter) has fought a long and somewhat lonely battle, in part because he believes it could affect the victims’ families’ quest for restitution.

“No. 1, I think the American people deserve to know the truth of what has happened in their name,” he said last year. “No. 2 is justice for these family members who have suffered such loss and thus far have been frustrated largely by the U.S. government in their efforts to get some compensation.”

The pages were classified at the request of the FBI when produced
. Graham and then-Representative Porter Goss, who was the House chair of the committee (and later directed the CIA) suggest there’s been no good reason given for keeping the document secret. Since the documents are classified, Graham won’t say what’s in them, but he has promised “a real smoking gun.” ...
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on July 06, 2016, 10:38:39 pm
The 28 pages are not just about the Saudi's as this thread shows (this thread exposed the role of Fahad Al-Thumairy years before 60 minutes finally got around to it earlier this year)

But there was another intelligence agency that knew about these terrorists. In fact they and the CIA seemed to share quite a bit.......

The CIA did their part, now the Saudi Intelligence would do theirs.......What is in the 28 pages of the joint inquiry that were blacked out?

The MSM has tried to ignore this - we will not allow it to be ignored-and the Government agencies and people involved will not be allowed to spin it either....

Thumairy finally named:

April 11, 2016 1:59 PM
’60 MINUTES’: Lawmakers Say Redacted Pages Of 9/11 Report Show Saudi Official Met Hijackers In LA

A CBS News “60 Minutes” report quoted officials familiar with the 2003 report as saying 28 pages of redacted information raises questions over whether Saudi officials were involved in assisting Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar upon their arrival in Los Angeles in Jan. 2000.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/04/11/60-minutes-lawmakers-say-redacted-pages-of-911-report-shows-saudi-official-met-hijackers-in-la/

Second post in this thread in 2013:

They had never been to the U.S. and couldn't speak English. An infrastructure had to be in place already to assist them. This is what those 28 pages deleted from the Joint Inquiry are about. Because it proves that Saudi Arabian Intelligence was behind the infrastructure used to make 9-11 happen after the CIA let them into the country and refused to share information on the terrorists they allowed in with other U.S. Agencies.

Fahad al-Thumairy an administrator at the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Los Angeles with diplomatic status was the contact man for the hijackers when they arrived in America. He set them up with housing on their arrival and supplied them a driver, he then had Saudi Intelligence Agent Omar al-Bayoumi come up to L.A. and together with Saudi Intelligence Agent Osama Basnan, they set up these hijackers in San Diego, got them IDs, housing, and enrolled them in flight schools. Agents Basnan and Bayoumi were being funneled money that they then passed on to the hijackers, from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar.

MSM in 2016:

April 11, 2016 1:59 PM
According to “60 Minutes”, Bayoumi visited Thumairy at a Saudi consulate office where he worked on the morning of Feb. 1, 2000. The two then had lunch “at a Middle Eastern restaurant on Venice Boulevard”, a meeting which Bayoumi later claimed was a “coincidence”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/04/11/60-minutes-lawmakers-say-redacted-pages-of-911-report-shows-saudi-official-met-hijackers-in-la/

Second post in this thread in 2013:
The exact location of the Mediterranean Cafe is 10863 Venice Boulevard and the meeting took place on 02/01/2000 as this FBI report shows.....
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

Treason will be exposed and History will condemn the traitors and Murderers, even if the people don't, due to the disgusting cover-up and cowardly MSM.

July 6, 2016
28 Pages on 9/11 May Reveal “Terrible, Terrible Errors” by U.S. Intelligence Community
https://28pages.org/2016/07/06/rep-lynch-28-pages-on-911-may-reveal-terrible-terrible-errors-by-u-s-intelligence-community/

Reps Jones, Lynch, and Massie Host Press Conference on Push to Declassify the 28 pages - 7.6.16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heUFHXg-kus

Highlights From Press Conf. Regarding JASTA And 28 Redacted Pages - 7/6/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khbqv_TW5Jg

Perjury is NOT a "Terrible Error"!

George Tenet Lies to the 9/11 Commission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cIo33eVSKg

CIA head George Tenet lies to the 9/11 Joint Inquiry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8j43j_dWVU


Mass murder and substituting Iraq for Saudi Arabia in a lie that cost billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of lives, is not a "Terrible Error"....

"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." - Mass Murderer and Traitor G. Bush on Tuesday, October 8, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/index.html
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on July 14, 2016, 06:36:44 pm
"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." - Mass Murderer and Traitor G. Bush on Tuesday, October 8, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/index.html

28 pages on alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released as soon as Friday
Thu July 14, 2016

Rep. Adam Schiff, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the report will be posted on line soon.
"The House Intelligence Committee will get the redacted report today or tomorrow," the California Democrat said. "The Senate and House intel committees should then give the formal go ahead to release the report since they originally produced it."

Sources told CNN that intelligence agencies, law enforcement and the State Department have all reviewed and approved the release of the pages with "minimal redactions."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/politics/28-pages-on-alleged-saudi-arabia-ties-to-sept-11-attacks-to-be-released/index.html?sr=twtsr0714saudiarabia
Title: 28 pages released!
Post by: jimd3100 on July 15, 2016, 04:41:21 pm
28 pages released! (still some redactions)

This is what Treason Looks like! This information was withheld from the American people to have a War with Iraq and pretend The Saudi Government are allies against the "Islamic Terrorists". When they are the source.

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/declasspart4.pdf

Most of this information has already been exposed in this thread, although Bush's buddy Prince Bandar is exposed even more.


"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." - Mass Murderer and Traitor G. Bush on Tuesday, October 8, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/index.html
Title: Re: 28 pages released!
Post by: Effie Trinket on July 15, 2016, 04:49:54 pm
28 pages released! (still some redactions)

This is what Treason Looks like! This information was withheld from the American people to have a War with Iraq and pretend The Saudi Government are allies against the "Islamic Terrorists".When they are the source.

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/declasspart4.pdf

Most of this information has already been exposed in this thread, although Bush's buddy Price Bandar is exposed even more.
Wow, where have you been?  You haven't posted in years haven't you?  Welcome back.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 15, 2016, 06:18:29 pm
finally ... but still there are other secret documents and the 28 pages are still redacted to protect the guilty ...

Bush /Bandar Paki Intel / Mossad / MI6 / DEA ...

This is why they want to control trump if/when he gets in
Title: Re: 28 pages released!
Post by: jimd3100 on July 15, 2016, 10:40:50 pm
Yes, the Saudi government helped the 9/11 terrorists
By Paul Sperry July 15, 2016 | 8:02pm

The explosive information was locked up in a top-secret, highly secured room in the basement of the US Capitol for the past 15 years, ostensibly to protect the Kingdom from embarrassment. (The Post helped get the declassification ball rolling with the December 2013 piece, “Inside the Saudi 9/11 coverup.”)

That means for 15 years, 9/11 victims and their families have been denied by their own government critical evidence they’ve sought to sue the Saudi government for responsibility in the death of their loved ones.

It also means Washington has misled the American people about foreign sponsorship of 9/11. For 15 years, we’ve been told that al Qaeda acted alone, with no state sponsors. We were led to believe that 15 Saudi nationals who barely spoke English received no help while in America; that they operated in isolation, like visitors from outer space.

It was all a monstrous lie.

According to a CIA memo, cited by the now-uncensored 28-page section of the 9/11 report, “Bassnan reportedly received funding and possibly a fake passport from Saudi government officials.”

More alarming, “he and his wife have received financial support from the Saudi ambassador to the United States and his wife.” That would be Prince Bandar, who was promoted to Saudi intelligence minister after 9/11.

The same report says Bassnan, described as a “supporter of Osama bin Laden,” also got “a significant amount of cash” from another “member of the Saudi Royal Family.”

FBI documents and a CIA memo further indicate that the hijackers had contact with Shayk Fahad al-Thumairy, then a Saudi consular official in Los Angeles. Records show the accredited Saudi diplomat had dozens of phone conversations and at least one meeting with Bayoumi in advance of the hijackers’ arrival.

But wait, the Saudi-9/11 conspiracy gets even worse.

Read full article:
http://nypost.com/2016/07/15/yes-the-saudi-government-helped-the-911-terrorists/

It also means Washington has misled the American people about foreign sponsorship of 9/11. For 15 years, we’ve been told that al Qaeda acted alone, with no state sponsors.

The creators, financiers, and operational sponsors of Al Qaeda --
CIA* and Saudi Intelligence = No State Sponsors

*
specific elements of the George Bush Center for Intelligence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bush_Center_for_Intelligence
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on July 16, 2016, 06:36:03 am
"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." - Mass Murderer and Traitor G. Bush on Tuesday, October 8, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/index.html

There is a further irony that some of those countries, which are disclosed in the 28 censored pages as having been complicitous with the terrorists, are among the list of those creditors of Iraq that are going to get this indirect economic benefit.
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/s102803.html

What I claimed were in the 28 pages:
They had never been to the U.S. and couldn't speak English. An infrastructure had to be in place already to assist them. This is what those 28 pages deleted from the Joint Inquiry are about. Because it proves that Saudi Arabian Intelligence was behind the infrastructure used to make 9-11 happen after the CIA let them into the country and refused to share information on the terrorists they allowed in with other U.S. Agencies.

Fahad al-Thumairy an administrator at the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Los Angeles with diplomatic status was the contact man for the hijackers when they arrived in America. He set them up with housing on their arrival and supplied them a driver, he then had Saudi Intelligence Agent Omar al-Bayoumi come up to L.A. and together with Saudi Intelligence Agent Osama Basnan, they set up these hijackers in San Diego, got them IDs, housing, and enrolled them in flight schools. Agents Basnan and Bayoumi were being funneled money that they then passed on to the hijackers, from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar.

28 pages just released(some redactions) naming Fahad al-Thumairy Agents Basnan and Bayoumi and Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar.

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/declasspart4.pdf

9-11 Commission did NOT debunk 28 pages nor clear these Saudis, to say it did is a lie....

Paul Sperry: “Unger and Moore have their own agendas. mine aligns with the FBI WFO case agents and FCPD* detectives who say they’ll never forgive the Bush admin for throttling their investigation of leads back to Saudi Embassy and Bandar himself in McLean. they view the former POTUS as a traitor.”
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/12/15/murdochs-nypost-today-backs-michael-moore-bush-saudi-claims-from-fahrenheit-911

"The rental application states that Hazmi and Mihdhar resided in Bayoumi's apartment from January 15 to Feb 2, 2000 but Bayoumi denies it, and we have found no reason to dispute his denial. According to Bayoumi, he was in such a hurry to complete the rental transactions that he signed the application form without reading it."
http://books.google.com/books?id=w_OCDdPk1ssC&pg=PA516&lpg=PA516&dq=The+rental+application+states+that+Hazmi+and+Mihdhar+resided+in+Bayoumi%27s+apartment&source=bl&ots=saZaTQ99XA&sig=E50j2OytLlWAkcZ6kOMeOKX1RiE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EIe3Uq3hDeGqyAGxxoHABQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The%20rental%20application%20states%20that%20Hazmi%20and%20Mihdhar%20resided%20in%20Bayoumi's%20apartment&f=false

Try that sometime and see if you get away with it. Lie on an application, and if you get caught just say you didn't bother reading what you wrote. Bayoumi is the one that filled out their application.

Agent Bayoumi then gets a giant "raise" when he enrolls them into flight school. Flight schools aren't cheap you know...

FBI report:

"Al-Hazmi and Khalid Al-Mihdhar attended introductory flight lessons in April/May of 2000 in California but after experiencing language difficulties, they stopped attending."
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-fbi-report-2004-02%28feb%29

At that same time Bayoumi was given a raise of over $3000 a month.....

"In April 2000, Bayoumi received a promotion and his status was also adjusted from "single" to "married" (despite the fact that he was already married)"
http://books.google.com/books?id=w_OCDdPk1ssC&pg=PA516&lpg=PA516&dq=The+rental+application+states+that+Hazmi+and+Mihdhar+resided+in+Bayoumi%27s+apartment&source=bl&ots=saZaTQ99XA&sig=E50j2OytLlWAkcZ6kOMeOKX1RiE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EIe3Uq3hDeGqyAGxxoHABQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The%20rental%20application%20states%20that%20Hazmi%20and%20Mihdhar%20resided%20in%20Bayoumi's%20apartment&f=false

Agent Basnan was also living next door to the hijackers and assisting them, he is being paid by Prince Bandar and funneling the money to the hijackers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNXKpihAGM

FBI Agent who investigated Basnan;

________did some initial research and determined that the individual ________was talking about was Osama Basnan. ___________{9/11 classified information}________-also found an FBI document describing extremist jihadi materials that were found in a car registered to Basnan in the Virginia area. _______decided to do some initial investigation regarding Basnan.

For instance, he played down his relationship with Omar Al-Bayoumi, stating that he did not know him very well.......According to _________Bayoumi and Basnan are the closest of friends. ________moreover, has corroborated this account. Furthermore, _____stated, phone records reveal roughly 700 calls between various phones subscribed to by Bayoumi and Basnan over a one year period(even discounting some of the calls in view of the friendship between their wives, the calls between their cell phones are most likely between the two men).

__________remarked that he was recently reviewing an interview report from 10/30/01 of George Harb, his landlord, and noticed that Harb received a page on 2/15/00 from a telephone number that turns out to be that of Omar al-Bayoumi's cell phone. However, in his interview, Harb stated that when he returned the page, he spoke with Nawaf al-Hazmi. ________found this significant because it suggests either Bayoumi was helping the hijackers make housing arrangements other than Parkwood or that the hijackers were at least using Bayoumi's cell phone during this period.

________stated that he was 98% sure that the hijackers were likely using Bayoumi's cell phone during the first couple of months of 2000 and therefor the calls from that phone should be analyzed carefully........_______noted that there are numerous calls to numbers that have never been investigated, and he believed this should be an issue of grave concern. Who were the hijackers potentially contacting at this time?"[/i]
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458

"Who were the hijackers potentially contacting at this time?"

Well this FBI report says they were contacting Saudi Officials in Washington DC and Los Angeles California. If they weren't then Bayoumi was.

"Omar Al Bayoumi
 Employed by Dallah al Baraka

A review of the following calls indicate a total 141 calls made by telephone numbers associated with _________to entities of the Saudi Arabian government in the Washington D.C. Area.

In connection with calls made to entities of the Saudi Arabian government in the Los Angeles, California area, there were 34 calls made."

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-04-15-FBI-LHM-omar-al-bayoumi2.pdf

Back to the FBI Agent investigating Basnan....

"When asked whether there were any other 9/11 leads he found interesting, ________stated that one interesting fact is that Osama Basnan's_________________________was in phone and e-mail contact with Ramzi Binalshibh in September 2000.

______also stated that another interesting lead concerned an individual named ______._______had connections with Basnan and other relevant subjects and had attended flight training. He lived in San Diego at the same time as the 9/11 hijackers, and he also attended the ICSD. In an interview dated 11/9/01, a flight instructor recounted how on May 23 of that year _______had been asking a lot of suspicious questions about radar coverage during a tour of a local aviation facility."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458

FBI Investigation reports reveal Osama Basnan as working for Saudi Intelligence:

"The possibility of ____________being affiliated with the Saudi Arabian Government or the Saudi Arabian Intelligence Service is supported by ________________Listing his employment in 1992 as the___________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________.
 On October 17, 1992 ___________hosted a party at his house in Washington D.C. for Sheik Omar Rahman, convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Towers bombing.

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-03-FBI-penttbomb-bayoumi.pdf

I know this is Basnan they are referring to because of this in the Joint Inquiry....

"In 1993, the FBI received reports that Bassnan had hosted a party for the “Blind Sheikh” in Washington, D.C. in 1992. However, the FBI did not open an investigation]." pages 178-179
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Also in the joint inquiry, Basnan, the person Bandar Bush has sent thousands of dollars to.....

"After September 11, the FBI developed information clearly indicating that Bassnan is an extremist and a Bin Ladin supporter." -page 177
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

The FBI Agent who interviewed Saleh al-Hussayen on the evening  of September 11 speaks....

"Interview of FBI Special Agent _________

________participated in one interview of Saleh al-Hussayen.
 _________received a lead that Hussayen stayed in the same hotel as some of the hijackers prior to 9/11. Before interviewing him, ___{9/11 classified information}___________________. She also determined that he had a connection to _______.
 As his wife was speaking with ____________noticed that Hussayen was muttering and drooping his head. _________asked if he was OK. His wife dismissed her concerns and said he was fine.
 __________called the paramedics. When the paramedics arrived, they asked _______if Hussayen could have been "faking it."
 Hussayen was taken to the hospital."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19991624/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-48-10903-00522

While at the hospital the FBI agent continued speaking with the wife......

"She said that she and her husband had come to the U.S. for a "holiday."
 His wife stated that Hussayen had a "brother" in Idaho, but they did not visit him. His wife also stated that while in the Washington, DC area, she and her husband did not visit any monuments or museums, which __________thought was odd.
 When _____________asked her how and why she had a Virginia drivers license, she stated that she thought it would be a good "souvenir," that she had got it on 9/10/01, and that a friend of theirs or __________helped her get it.

At the hospital, _________asked Hussayen's wife whether she thought her husband could have been involved with the events of 9/11 in any way. The wife responded, "I don't know,"__________found this response extremely unusual.

Hussayen was released from the hospital within 2 hours, which led _______to believe that whatever his condition it would not have been that serious.

__________thought it significant that the couple had traveled to several cities and met with numerous individuals but the wife did not know who they were or what her husband discussed with them; that Hussayen's wife wanted a Virginia driver's license as a "souvenir,"and that Hussayen's severe reaction started when ________had asked his wife why they moved to the hotel where they were staying at the time of the interview. Hussayen's wife said that they had moved to that hotel from another in the area because they wanted a kitchenette, but ___________found that explanation suspicious in view of the fact that there was nothing in the fridge nor any indication that the kitchenette had been used at all."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19991624/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-48-10903-00522

He was just one of several suspicious Saudis flying out of the country as soon as possible......

"On September 19, 2001, once the ban on International flights had been lifted, Hussayen was allowed to leave the United States and return to Saudi Arabia. Five months later he joined the Saudi government as President of the Affairs of the Holy Mosques Masjid al-Haram (Grand Mosque) in Mecca and Al-Masjid al-Nabawi (Prophet's Mosque) in Medina."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saleh_Ibn_Abdul_Rahman_Hussayen#cite_note-3

FBI documents reveal more about these flights........

"Event: On 9/19/01 A 727 plane left LAX, Ryan FLT #441 To Orlando FL W/ETA of 4-5PM.
The Plane was Chartered either by the Saudi Arabian Royalty Family or Osama Bin Laden."
page 3/224
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2007/Saudi%20Docs%202.pdf

That was one flight. There were several, including this one.....

"The Saudi Arabian group was headed by H.R.H. Prince Ahmed Bin Salman Bin Abdulaziz" page 11/224
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2007/Saudi%20Docs%202.pdf

"Late in its investigation, reacting to press allegations that Abu Zubaydah had referred to a Saudi prince in his interrogations, the Commission asked “what information does the CIA have” about whether such assertions were made in Zubaydah’s interrogations. (CIA Question for the Record No. 3, dated May 20, 2004). We knew the CIA believed this was untrue but we asked the question formally to get any relevant information for the record. We cannot find a record of a CIA response."
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20071222-INTEL-MEMO.pdf

The 9-11 Commission meets with our Saudi friends.....

"Meeting with Deputy Foreign Minister Nizar Madani
 Location: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Riyadh

Philip Zelikow began with an overview of the Commission's work and asked questions on the Kingdom's willingness and capacity to fight terrorism, both before and after September 11 2001.

Nizar expressed disbelief about the allegations regarding Princess Haifa, noting that it was preposterous that she was involved in terrorism. Zelikow expressed understanding of this position and explained that the interest was primarily due to the unclear role of Osama Bassnan - if the Commission could learn more about his role, everything could be put in a clearer perspective."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20556754/MFR-NARA-NA-Saudi-Arabia-Madani-Nizar-10-15-03-01186

Their interview with Basnan didn't go well.....

"The interview failed to yield any new information of note. Instead, in the writer's opinion, it established beyond cavil the witness' utter lack of credibility on virtually every material subject."
https://research.archives.gov/id/2610794

Their meeting with Thumairy didn't go well either......

From their interview with Thumairy:

"Notably, without being asked, Thumairy volunteered that he did not find an apartment for these visitors or make any reservations for them. He also denied recognizing the names Qualid Moncef Benomrane and Mohdar Abdullah. AI-Thumairy stated that he did not recognize the name Omar al-Bayoumi. When shown a photo of al-Bayoumi, al-Thumairy first denied recognizing him. At this time, Major Khalid whispered something to him in Arabic, and Thumairy said in English, Oh, Bayoumi." Al-Thumairy then acknowledged that he recognized al-Bayoumi because he had seen him on television, but he denied ever seeing him in Los Angeles."

"Despite being confronted with these facts, al-Thumairy continued to deny knowing al- Bayoumi."

http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01249.pdf

They had two interviews with Thumairy....

9-11 commission second interview with Thumairy:

"At this point, al-Thumairy was asked again about Omar al-Bayoumi. Al-Thumairy was reminded that at his interview the previous night, he had initially denied recognizing al- Bayoumi until Major Khalid said something to him, which was when he acknowledged recognizing al-Bayoumi from the media. AI-Thumairy was also informed that we have information that shows numerous phone calls between him and al-Bayoumi over a short period in December 1999, from both al-Thumairy's cell and landline phones. Finally, al-Thumairy was told that since speaking with him the prior night, we were told by another witness [i.e. Khalil al-Khalil] that he had been seen meeting with al-Bayoumi on several occasions at the KFM. Despite being confronted with these facts, al-Thumairy continued to deny knowing al- Bayoumi."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01249.pdf

"Our general impression of Thumairy is that he was deceptive during both interviews."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01240.pdf

Their meeting with Saud al-Rasheed didn't go well either..

"We believe that al-Rasheed was being deceptive. His our impression that he has had enough time to develop a coherent story and is sticking to it (and that he even may have been coached at some point)."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01240.pdf

For info on him see....
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=51281.msg1452995#msg1452995

At the very same time that investigators were discovering how Saudi Arabian government officials were directly involved in the 9-11 attacks President Bush and his administration made it against the law to tell the truth by classifying the information in order to point the finger at Iraq...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OMI_rNWDrs>

After America is Attacked (by design)by their Ally Saudi Arabia and their other Ally Israel monitors and documents the event, The U.S. Military Industrial Complex send Americans' tax dollars down the toilet spending trillions of dollars and sending thousands of young patriots to their deaths protecting Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Government thinks it has a right to privacy and you have none The American people have been scammed by traitors and it's time to pay the piper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJ--Z3lvaQ

Prince Bandar on PBS, 1 month after the 9-11 attacks, speaking of Bin Laden and his infrastructure:

Original Airdate: October 11, 2001
LOWELL BERGMAN: So have- did you underestimate him, the way we have apparently underestimated him?
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: We underestimated the power of the people around him that created this- what we see today, yes.
LOWELL BERGMAN: The infrastructure.
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: Infrastructure that was developed. And it is not his infrastructure.
LOWELL BERGMAN: Whose is it?
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: I think it's the brain child of the people around him. One of them is this Egyptian, al-Zawahiri, and-
LOWELL BERGMAN: Because he's-
Prince BANDAR BIN SULTAN: He is- I think he's more educated, more trained for that. He was part of a jihad organization in Egypt. And that's the same group who planned the assassination of President Sadat and all the trouble that went into Egypt. And I think they he- he had the brain to bring specialists, if you want, in different areas. And now we discover maybe we should not have underestimated. Maybe- maybe we should have paid more attention to how far an evil brain can go.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terrorism/etc/script.html

LOL! Yea, the Infrastructure that allowed the 9-11 attacks to happen wasn't set up by CIA and Saudi Intelligence, it was all set up by Zawahiri. Right!
(http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/George-Bush-and-Prince-Bandar-via-Wikimedia.jpg)
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/39166186.jpg)

How The CIA helped the Saudi Terrorists:

http://dp8hsntg6do36.cloudfront.net/56be016694c05f41f6000009/4aa851a2-9ca4-4224-8098-5f5cac5664f4high.webm

The result of the CIA and Saudi Intelligence helping the hijackers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9QN3AkydYY
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Effie Trinket on July 16, 2016, 08:43:53 am
There is a lot of dot connecting that can now result in more incriminating findings.  I pulled up a lot of info from many posts I made years ago and I need to sift through it.  In a nutshell though, I think that once again, this information is going to help further prove that the Saudi's themselves, to use Indira Singh's words, served as a smokescreen to obfuscate military industrial complex corporations/defense contractor/intelligence agency collaboration.  I will post only one older article for now, and when I have time will expound on this with quotes from older posts.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060929171840/http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org/bin/site/wrappers/media-show_clips_leaders-4496X.html

Quote
O'Neill Met with Muslim Activists Tied to Charities Raided by Treasury


Glenn R. Simpson
Wall Street Journal Thursday, April 18, 2002

WASHINGTON -- Two weeks after his agents raided the offices of several Islamic charities and businesses suspected of financing terrorism, Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill met with two politically connected Muslim activists, one a longtime Bush family associate, who each had a tie to the targeted groups.

The April 4 luncheon with Mr. O'Neill was convened to allow Muslim-Americans to voice complaints about the March 20 raid on the International Institute for Islamic Thought and 19 related entities that operate out of offices at 555 Grove St. in Herndon, Va., a Washington suburb.

Among the Muslim leaders attending was Talat Othman, a longtime associate and supporter of President Bush's family who gave a benediction at the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia in August 2000. Mr. Othman went to the Treasury representing the Arab-American Business and Professional Association. But he also serves on the board of Amana Mutual Funds Trust, an investment firm founded by M. Yacqub Mirza, the Northern Virginia businessman who set up most of the entities targeted by the Treasury and whose tax records were sought in the raid.

Also at the meeting was Khaled Saffuri, head of the Islamic Institute, a group he co-founded with GOP activist Grover Norquist to organize conservative Muslims. The institute has accepted $20,000 in contributions from another Grove Street entity suspected of terrorist connections, the Safa Trust, as earlier reported by Newsweek. Asked for comment, Mr. Norquist, a board member of the institute, confirmed the donation. Mr. Saffuri couldn't be reached.

Messrs. Othman and Saffuri weren't targeted in the raid. Nancy Luque, a lawyer for Mr. Mirza and his enterprises and partners, said her client and his partners and enterprises have no connection to terrorists. Mr. Mirza didn't attend the Treasury meeting.

The meeting reflects the increasing complexity of the Bush administration's crackdown on terror financing. As the global investigation broadens, the labyrinthine money trail is leading to more and more seemingly mainstream entities, generating political controversy. Some of the people targeted in the March 20 raids in Virginia are well-established figures in the U.S. Muslim community, and their treatment has generated an intense backlash against the Bush administration. Similar controversies have erupted in both the Arab world and in Europe as governments have frozen assets at the behest of the U.S. without disclosing detailed evidence to support the moves.

The case also highlights conflicts between the Bush administration's domestic political goals and its war on terror. GOP officials began courting the U.S. Muslim community intensely in the late 1990s, seeking to add that ethnic bloc to the party's political base. But when the war on terror was launched in September, the Bush administration retreated from some positions Republicans had taken to gain the Muslim support, including opposition to the use of secret evidence in immigration cases, and began mass immigration-violator roundups within Muslim communities.

Rob Nichols, a Treasury spokesman, said the April 4 meeting was initiated by Treasury officials in response to the harsh criticism it has received in the U.S. Muslim community in the raid's aftermath. About a dozen Muslim leaders were asked to attend, including representatives of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, the American Muslim Council, and the Arab American Institute.

"We invited to meet with senior Treasury officials those who were most critical of our effort," Mr. Nichols said. "We wanted some honest feedback." Mr. Nichols said he didn't know whether Mr. O'Neill or his aides knew of any connections Messrs. Othman and Saffuri might have with the groups under scrutiny. Another Treasury official added: "There are many well-intentioned, credible people who become unknowingly associated with groups being investigated for terrorist financing activities. It would be unfair to shun such people."

The Islamic Institute declared itself pleased with the encounter. "The meeting was constructive, and the leaders expressed their concerns to Secretary O'Neill regarding the insensitive actions of Treasury agents during the raids against the Muslim American organizations, and concerns of the community that civil-rights violations occurred," the Islamic Institute said on its Web site. "Secretary O'Neill promised that these concerns would be investigated."

Bruce Zagaris, an asset-forfeiture lawyer who represents clients in similar cases, said a meeting between Treasury officials and anyone who might be associated with an entity under investigation is very unusual. "It's virtually impossible [to arrange such a meeting], especially with the Treasury secretary," Mr. Zagaris said. "It's very difficult to even get phone calls returned."

According to a search warrant justifying the raid -- which was approved by a federal judge -- Treasury agents were looking for "any and all information referencing in any way" numerous terrorist groups and individuals. Among them were Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization and two anti-Israeli groups, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and Hamas.

Mr. Othman says he knows Mr. Mirza only slightly and agreed to serve on the board of Amana last summer after the two men met at a conference. He said he doesn't believe Amana is part of the federal probe. He added that trustees such as himself "have nothing really to do with the fund," which makes investments according to Islamic principles and is managed on a daily basis by another investment firm. Though neither the investment firm nor Mr. Othman is named in the search warrant, it does demand all records related to "any other entity sharing officers, directors, trustees, or employees with the listed entities."

Two nonprofits affiliated with Mr. Mirza and named in the search warrant, the SAAR Foundation Inc. and the Heritage Education Trust Inc., held large blocks of shares in Amana's mutual funds in 1997, according to SEC records. The SEC documents and other records detailing connections between Mr. Othman and the Islamic Institute and the raided groups were compiled by the National Security News Service, a Washington based nonprofit research group.

Mr. Othman has ties to the Bush family going back to the 1980s, when he served with George W. Bush on the board of a Texas petroleum firm, Harken Oil & Gas Inc. Mr. Othman has visited the White House during the administrations of both President Bush and his father George H.W. Bush. Mr. Othman also is a longtime campaign donor who gives to both parties but tends to favor Republicans, giving more than $10,000 during the past decade to GOP groups and supporting the presidential bids of both Bushes.

Mr. Othman also is on the board of Mr. Saffuri's Islamic Institute, the GOP-leaning group that received $20,000 from the Safa Trust, one of the raid's targets. The president of the Safa Trust, Jamal Barzinji, is a former business associate of Switzerland-based investor Youssef Nada, whose assets were frozen last fall after the Treasury designated him a person suspected of giving aid to terrorists. A naturalized American, Mr. Barzinji serves as an officer of at least three other Virginia groups listed in the search warrant. Ms. Luque, who also represents Mr. Barzinji, denied that he supports terrorists.

Mr. Barzinji and his Herndon business partners also are active political givers, donating about $40,000 to federal candidates since 1990. He also is listed in federal records as a client of the lobbying firm Janus-Merritt Strategies LLC, which formerly employed Mr. Norquist, the GOP activist who co-founded the Islamic Institute. The firm received $40,000 in 2000 lobbying for human rights and foreign-policy issues, records show. Mr. Norquist didn't work on the account, according to Ms. Luque and Janus-Merrit.

In a speech last fall to the Organization of Islamic Conference in Doha, Qatar, Mr. Barzinji boasted of the U.S. Muslim community's rising political influence. "At this time, the president and his administration are continually seeking the counsel and input of American Muslim leaders," Mr. Barzinji said. "At no other time has the Muslim community in America been more effective in relation to the processes of American government."

------------------------------
ISLAMIC LINKS

The Muslim American businesses and nonprofit groups raided on March 20 for suspected terrorist ties in Northern Virginia have noteworthy connections.

• M. Yacqub Mirza
Set up most entities targeted by the raid, including the Safa Trust, and founded an investment firm, Amana Mutual Funds Trust.

• Jamal Barzinji
President of the Safa Trust and an officer in other groups targeted by the raid. Also a former business associate of Switzerland-based investor Youssef Nada, whom the Treasury has said is suspected of giving aid to terrorists.

• Khaled Saffuri
Head of the Islamic Institute, a Republican-leaning political group that received a $20,000 contribution from the Safa Trust. Met with Treasury Secretary O'Neill to complain about the raid.

• Talat Othman
Bush family friend who is on the board of both Mirza's Amana Funds and the Islamic Institute. Also met with O'Neill about the raid.

Source: WSJ research
------------------------------
-- Roger Thurow contributed to this article.

Write to Glenn R. Simpson at [email protected]
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jofortruth on July 16, 2016, 10:04:22 am
There is a lot of dot connecting that can now result in more incriminating findings.  I pulled up a lot of info from many posts I made years ago and I need to sift through it.  In a nutshell though, I think that once again, this information is going to help further prove that the Saudi's themselves, to use Indira Singh's words, served as a smokescreen to obfuscate military industrial complex corporations/defense contractor/intelligence agency collaboration.


http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=403&st=0#entry5306330
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 20, 2016, 11:25:01 am
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/07/20/9-11-bushs-guilt-and-28-pages.html
Eric ZUESSE | 20.07.2016 | WORLD

9/11: Bush's Guilt, and the 28 Pages

On Friday July15th, as the national news media were either on vacation or preparing for the opening of the Trump National Convention on Monday the 18th, the long-awaited release of the ‘missing’ 28 pages from the US Senate’s 9/11 report («DECEMBER 2002: JOINT INQUIRY INTO INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES BEFORE AND AFTER THE TERRORIST ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001») occurred. The official title of this document is «PART FOUR – FINDING, DISCUSSION AND NARRATIVE REGARDING CERTAIN SENSITIVE NATIONAL SECURITY MATTERS», and it constitutes pages 6-34 of a pdf. (Some writers mistakenly call it «29 pages».)

It «was kept secret from the public on the orders of former President George W. Bush», and remained secret under Bush’s successor Barack Obama, until that Friday night late in Obama’s Second Administration, right before a week of Republican National Convention news would be dominating the news (along with any racial incidents, which would be sure to distract the public even more from any indication of Bush’s guilt). The pdf was of a picture-file so as to be non-searchable by journalists and thus slow to interpret, and thus would impede press-coverage of it.
...
Title: 9/11 treason enters MSM
Post by: jimd3100 on July 24, 2016, 11:06:24 am
Paul Sperry hits a home run - I've noticed his articles on Saudi Arabia and 9/11 always end up on the "opinion" page. His latest is featured in the "NEWS" section - he's forcing the MSM to face reality --

NEWS
The claim that the Saudis are innocent for 9/11 is total bull
By Paul Sperry July 23, 2016 | 4:26pm


Saudi Arabia and an army of K Street lobbyists are now claiming that several Saudi government suspects named in the newly released “28 pages” have all been “exonerated” from 9/11 involvement. The gullible mainstream media are parroting the latest spin, but it’s total bull.

Saudi lobbyists are circulating a 38-page “refutation” of the 28 pages on Capitol Hill. This tissue of lies claims investigators for both the FBI and 9/11 Commission chased down all the leads in the 28-page section of the earlier congressional inquiry into 9/11 and came up empty.


It maintains that three key Saudi officials implicated in the report— Omar al-Bayoumi, Fahad al-Thumairy and Osama Basnan — were all cleared of any role in the conspiracy.

“Each of these names was investigated in detail by the 9/11 Commission, by the recent review commission and by the FBI, and none of them found any real evidence to indicate that they were agents of Saudi Arabia, that they acted to assist the hijackers or that they knew of the plans to hijack the planes,” the Saudi white paper states. “The time is long overdue to set aside these speculations and conspiracy theories,” it adds.

Aside from the fact that several 9/11 Commission members recently denied exonerating the Saudis, summaries of interviews between commission investigators and these Saudi suspects concluded they were “deceptive” and asked them to take lie-detector tests because bank and phone records, along with the testimony of material witnesses, so wildly contradicted their testimonies. In other words, they lied through their teeth.

Let’s start with Thumairy, the Saudi consular official who was at the center of the US support network for Saudi hijackers who attacked the Pentagon......
http://nypost.com/2016/07/23/the-claim-that-the-saudis-are-innocent-for-911-is-total-bull/

I urge you to read the whole article. Sperry is forcing reality into the MSM
http://nypost.com/2016/07/23/the-claim-that-the-saudis-are-innocent-for-911-is-total-bull/

Saudi guilt = disgusting treasonous cover up = CIA and White House exposed as co-conspirators
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Astrobrick on July 26, 2016, 12:48:14 pm
Here is a possible new connection revealed in the 28 pages- this is my work- and TahoeBlue- I believe this also connects a post of yours I replied to re:  the Yemeni front company led by arms dealer/politician that had  offices in WTC1:

https://www.facebook.com/albert.izard.9/posts/2100856933471954


The 28 Pages- A New Lead Emerges:
Albert Izard

What we know so far, as reported in the 28 pages release: Abu Zubaydah's phone book contained a number of US phone numbers/ contacts, ones that the FBI noted in their report included ASPCOL, the Colorado entity for the Hala Ranch property holdings of Prince Bandar and an entity named Scimitar Security which provided security services at the ranch.

There are two corporate entities in the United States (and I could only find these two) called Scimitar Security. The first is in Colorado, incorporated in 1995, and appears to have no ties to terrorists, no ties to the Bandar property and no notable ties of any kind.

The second Scimitar Security is located in San Diego, was incorporated in 1998 and at one time employed Jehad Serwan Mostafa, a terrorist currently on the FBI's most wanted list and alleged to be an emissary of current Al- Queda # 1.

Jehad's father Abdul Halim G. Mostafa is the owner of Scimitar Security. He was quoted in stories shortly after 9/11 due to worshiping at the Al-Madina Al-Munawara mosque where Omar Al-Bouyami had been placed.

Abdul Mostafa appeared in a small role in the 1999 Mark Wahlberg film "The Three Kings" and produced a 2008 independent film about Muslim identity called MOZLYM.

Jehad's California security guard license # 1289423 was cancelled in 2006.

The FBI reports that Jehad Serwan Mostafa has used the alias Abu Abdullah al-Muhajir, which is the name Jose Padilla (recall the FBI foiled Jose Padilla plan based on intel from Abu Zubaydah) had on his fake passport. Sources say as a youth, Jehad met Anwar al-Awlaki when the former Al Qaeda leader worked as an imam at a La Mesa mosque in 2000.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2010/aug/06/portrait-terror-suspect-sd-ties-begins-emerge/

If this is the same Scimitar Security that Abu Zubaydah had the number for, what was the connection between Zubaydah, Bandar and Scimitar Scecurity? If the FBI had Abu Zubaydah's notebook by 2002 and was following up on leads, why was currently most wanted terrorist Jehad Serwan Mostafa allowed to leave the country in 2006? How much did Bandar pay Scimitar Security and what work did they actually provide?

Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on September 11, 2016, 09:54:20 am
Now that the "28 pages" have been released (On a Friday afternoon, on the day congress left for summer recess, the weekend before The Republican convention was start...get the picture?) and the MSM for the most part continued in their role as a tool of the Government either ignoring them, or telling the people there is nothing to see here..(i.e Talking point: "there is no there, there") a new thread will delve into just what are in those pages and what is still classified.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=316875.0

Now that "the 28 pages" have been released. The intention of the above thread is to explore, examine and explain what they say and the significance of them.

Us-Them-Democrat-Republican-Liberal-Conservative-Right-Left-MIHOP-LIHOP-Truther-Debunker

The above are Dogmatic terms that are irrelevant to me. I think it is more beneficial to try to align individual Beliefs with Truth and individual perception/perspective with Reality. Which is more difficult than staying out of dogmatic rabbit holes.

Belief Always Trumps Truth and Perception Always Trumps Reality

Ironically enough(I'm aware of the forum I'm posting on) I'm not really into "conspiracy theories"

But that is what "The 9-11 attacks" are.

New Saudi Ambassador: Replace "9-11 NEVER FORGET" with "LET'S MOVE ON"
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-al-saud-28-pages-20160725-snap-story.html

I don't think so

I put my "9-11 conspiracy theory" out there for "debunking" ...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11409137&postcount=330

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11415783&postcount=331

I was not impressed with the "debunking"

The former jref forum - now internationalskeptics- have a "28 pages" thread. The majority of members there, as well as I presume here, are stuck in a "truther vs "debunker" mindset. "Truther" "debunker" MIHOP LIHOP these are terms that frankly don't mean anything to me.

Several years ago I realized that there could never be a real, effective, "9-11 truth movement". Don't get me wrong. It's a nice idea, a noble effort put forth by some, and I support those that truly care and identify as being a part of a group identifying itself as such. But IMO it can't really exist because.....
 
Belief Always Trumps Truth and Perception Always Trumps Reality

Their 28 pages thread can be seen here...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297608

IMO what is interesting there, is how discussion of the 28 pages is intentionally suppressed by most there, in order to maintain a "truther-debunker" internet flame war. Information on the 28 pages I post is not as easily "debunked" as "no planes" "space beams" "fake phone calls" etc, and so if the information can't be "debunked", and it must be "debunked" because a "truther" (the role assigned to me)is posting it, then the "truther"(my assigned role) must be destroyed. All this talk about Saudis and brainwashed Islamic nut-jobs is simply a "clever way" for jimd3100 to hide that he's really a "Jew hating racist Nazi that believes Israel did 9-11." LOL!! It gets crazy as the challenge to their world view and group-think, along with their ignorance on the subject, inflames their hatred as the thread implodes on itself. Which is a win in their minds I suppose, because release of the 28 pages changed nothing. It really only shows how seedy the forum is IMO, and only reinforces my belief that the truther-debunker BS is just another distraction and isn't even real unless you believe it is.

Belief Always Trumps Truth and Perception Always Trumps Reality

Years before the "28 pages" were released I titled this thread...

What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=254040.0

I knew with a title like that, once they were released, I would be proven correct, or I would be proven wrong. Obviously as I said in this thread, I couldn't know everything in the 28 pages, but was certain of some things in them....

The CIA did their part, now the Saudi Intelligence would do theirs.......What is in the 28 pages of the joint inquiry that were blacked out? We can know some of what is blacked out by studying the FBI reports, and released notes of the 9-11 Commission and filling in the blanks. It's worse than treason.

Unfortunately for those who despise "jimd3100" (elements of cultist thinking self-described "truther" and "debunker" camps)the contents of this thread were quite accurate, so I go on. I'm not trying to explain how smart I am, I am trying to explain how it's done. For years 5-6 times a week, the first thing I would do after turning my computer on would be a google search for any mention of "Thumairy" in the last 24 hours. Because I was 100% certain Fahad Al-Thumairy was mentioned in the 28 pages, and this took about 5 seconds to do. He works for the Saudi Government, and he is a terrorist. Being the "contact" in America for the first hijackers arriving, and escorting other terrorists into my country. The Saudis know this, and so does elements of the U.S. Government, and I know it, so when is this going to be exposed? For years I waited. Then April 2016, 60 minutes had a story....

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-911-classified-report-steve-kroft-2/

I'm not trying to explain how smart I am, I am trying to explain how it's done......

60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft explains the challenges of reporting on a 28-page, classified document about the 9/11 attacks

What Kroft and the 60 Minutes team were able report on is information in the public record, much of it buried in footnotes and appendices.

Kroft's team also searched through dozens of original documents, including FBI reports and 9/11 Commission staff memos upon which those footnotes and appendices are based. Some of these documents have been partially declassified and placed in the custody of the National Archives and Records Administration. Other original source materials are filed in legal proceedings and as the result of Freedom of Information Act disclosures. The 60 Minutes reporters culled relevant clues and cross-referenced documents to fill in some blanks.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-911-classified-report-steve-kroft/

^^ - How it's done.

Why it took them so long I don't know.

This 60 minutes news report AFAIK is the first time Fahad Thumairy has been mentioned on a television news story. - jimd3100
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11226920&postcount=158

Go here for continuing examination of the "28 pages" (OK 29 pages really, but for years "28 pages" was the term so I'll use it for that reason)

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=316875.0
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Neuromancer on September 13, 2016, 07:01:18 am
Thanks for your contribution Astrobrick. Some people cant be bothered to appreciate new members.

I am sure the Colorado Scimitar was related to Prince Bandar. The other Scimitar is interesting as well though.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on September 13, 2016, 11:35:18 am
Here is a possible new connection revealed in the 28 pages- this is my work- and TahoeBlue- I believe this also connects a post of yours I replied to re:  the Yemeni front company led by arms dealer/politician that had  offices in WTC1:

https://www.facebook.com/albert.izard.9/posts/2100856933471954

I actually did look into this ......
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also connects a post of yours I replied to re:  the Yemeni front company led by arms dealer/politician that had  offices in WTC1:

The research I did on this after seeing Astrobricks' post did seem to confirm to me that he is correct that this company in the WTC was evidently run by a couple of (future)international arms dealers. I put (future) because it was a few years after 2001 that reports of them being Arms dealers surfaced. That doesn't mean that they weren't unknown dealers in 2001. From my recollection some unknown anonymous source stated that they were in the business of importing "dried tomatoes" while at the WTC. I did look into this-I didn't, and still don't know what to make of it-it's interesting/weird, but I had nothing else to add.


Thanks for your contribution Astrobrick. Some people cant be bothered to appreciate new members.

I also did look at and go over the information on Scimitar Security Astrobrick posted. Again, I don't have anything to add to it, other than interesting/weird. Just so you know-just because there is no response does not mean it's not being read/followed up on etc. If a non response from me is taken as a lack of appreciation - perhaps I'm at fault for giving a false impression. It is appreciated.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Neuromancer on September 13, 2016, 04:35:53 pm
Its just happenstance i posted that after your post. That was a mistake. i would never question your contribution. Im sure you did look into it. No criticism meant.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Neuromancer on January 07, 2017, 04:16:52 pm
I wonder why it is that Omar al Bayoumi picked Isamu Dyson to accompany him to meet Hazmi and Midhar. Dyson understood little of their conversation at the meeting, perhaps that had something to do with it but why did he need to go at all.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on January 10, 2017, 07:03:41 am
I wonder why it is that Omar al Bayoumi picked Isamu Dyson to accompany him to meet Hazmi and Midhar. Dyson understood little of their conversation at the meeting, perhaps that had something to do with it but why did he need to go at all.

The FBI report on their interview with Dyson IMO shows why Bayoumi had him come along.....

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-08-FBI-FD302-san-diego-associates.pdf

Bayoumi suggested they go to "the restaurant", after he met with Thumairy, because Bayoumi said he had been there before and it served halal food. But he "had trouble" finding it, and when he did, it wasn't a restaurant anymore but a meat market. But a restaurant just up the street served halal food. So it was just "a coincidence" he met the hijackers there. He has a witness. Dyson.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Neuromancer on January 10, 2017, 08:01:12 am
The FBI report on their interview with Dyson IMO shows why Bayoumi had him come along.....

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-08-FBI-FD302-san-diego-associates.pdf

Bayoumi suggested they go to "the restaurant", after he met with Thumairy, because Bayoumi said he had been there before and it served halal food. But he "had trouble" finding it, and when he did, it wasn't a restaurant anymore but a meat market. But a restaurant just up the street served halal food. So it was just "a coincidence" he met the hijackers there. He has a witness. Dyson.

Thats interesting. I wouldnt have thought of it. Thats a very conspiratorial suggestion.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: jimd3100 on January 10, 2017, 10:11:29 am
Thats interesting. I wouldnt have thought of it. Thats a very conspiratorial suggestion.

No - it would be an obvious reason actually. It was mentioned in the FBI report I linked to, Dyson was asked about this possibility and according to the report thought that if Bayoumi was good, it's possible, because he also heard Bayoumi made fun of him behind his back(Bayoumi was already thought of as an Intelligence Agent by the FBI before 9/11)......... 

When asked if he could have been used by______________in some way concerning this meeting, ___________said he did not think so. However, due to what happened on September 11, 2001 he now believes that there is a remote possibility. Regarding whether he was used in an manner, such as for an alibi or cover, in any of____________ activities, __________said if he was used for this purpose he never realized it and___________did a good job. ______________noted that he heard from his ex-wife, ________that ___________ was making fun of___________behind his back. He never knew whether to believe it.
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-08-FBI-FD302-san-diego-associates.pdf

Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Neuromancer on January 10, 2017, 11:55:08 am
The problem is that the only possible reason for taking someone along as an alibi is if you know these two people you meet are bad people and one day you are gonna be asked about it. That is a highly conspiratorial thing to do. it suggests Bayoumi was aware of the 9/11 attacks or something similar back in Jan 2000 and you must remember he was working for the Saudi consulate, so it would follow they knew as well. Yet the current story is it was accidental, there was no support network and the Saudis wernt involved. It is quite a leap from the official version to this level of conspiring. However it is a shame it cant be proven.

Consider though if you will another story. Similar to the California story and also involving Aulaqi but this time the support network is in New Jersey and Virginia. A man named Eyad al-Rababah performs a smilier role to Al Bayoumi and he does so at the direction of a mysterious Syrian man "with contacts at the Saudi Embassy," supposedly named Daoud Chehazeh. Like Bayoumi, Rababah tries to pass off a similar story of coincidental meeting, this time at a 7-11. However here, agents are more persistent and the truthful story actually emerges. Al Rababah admits he infact met the men in the mosque.

https://www.scribd.com/document/19414261/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-Bukowski-Bob-11-6-03-00351

Note the similarities again with Bayoumi's story. Dyson even admits they travelled to the mosque after the chance meeting in a restaurant. So we know they were at a mosque that day they had the meeting.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Neuromancer on January 20, 2017, 12:35:53 pm
Your linked document provides phone numbers called by Bayoumis phone
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-04-15-FBI-LHM-omar-al-bayoumi2.pdf

202-342-3700

This number was called 30 times. These calls were made durlng the period of 01/19/2000 to 03/24/2000. The average duration of
calls was 3.5 minutes.
In additicn, this number was called 21 times from 07/21/1998 to 07/08/1999. The average duration of these calls was 5 minutes with the longest call being 32 minutes.

There is a result in a lookup database for this number, unlike most of them.
https://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/phone/2023423700/ps

Abdelmoniem Mohamed, Age 57
He used the address: 3713 George Mason Falls Church, VA 22041
And he used to live in Mountain View, Ca.

It is interesting then that Osama Basnan used to live at 3709
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Neuromancer on February 06, 2017, 10:06:32 am
The Saudis tried to blame Iraq for the OKC bombing. Do you think somebody over there might have had it in for Saddam?

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Two Saudi Arabian intelligence officials called former CIA officers on the day of April 19 and suggested that the attack had been sponsored by Iraqi intelligence. The phone calls are recounted in "Others Unknown," a book published by McVeigh's defense attorney. These calls appear to be the origin of what would eventually become an elaborate conspiracy theory purporting that the OKC bombing was sponsored by Iraq.
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/okc-overview.html#9

What was the purpose of Mohamed Jamal Khalifahs trip to the US in 1994 to meet with Mohammed Loay Bayazid? I dont suppose the Saudi benevolence network has ties to OKC as well, does it.
Title: Re: What is in the classified 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
Post by: Neuromancer on May 06, 2017, 07:57:04 pm
Here is a message left on an alt message board on August 24th 1998. The author appears to be at the UCSD. He is demanding mujahideen supporters call the Saudi embassy numbers to complain. At least one of the numbers Bayoumi made multiple calls to is listed there.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.president.clinton/22NMz-4dMuM

Could there be an innocent explanation for all these Bayoumi phone calls?