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Title: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Took2013 on March 13, 2013, 02:49:25 pm
On this website but the article has since been deleted

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/10444.19.0.0/religion/roman-catholicism/who-are-the-jesuits

Any ideas?
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: jofortruth on March 13, 2013, 03:42:47 pm
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jesuit-becomes-first-pontiff-from-the-americas-2013-03-13?link=MW_pulse
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/02/17/world/europe/pope-cardinals.html?_r=0

Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina. His name: Pope Francis I. First Jesuit elected pope!

(http://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2013/03/13/Photos/MG/MW-BA312_new_po_20130313152655_MG.jpg)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 13, 2013, 04:32:26 pm
Bad luck Obama! No American Pope tonight... well... Latin American... not USA!

 ::)

and the new Pope is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC-9q_E5JFQ&feature=youtu.be

https://twitter.com/CatholicNewsSvc/status/311952476381274112/photo/1

Bergoglio for Pope is a welcome surprise. It defeated all the experts bets. A people's person and a total opposite of ultra-sophisticated fashionista Benedict XVI.

http://twitpic.com/cb3ctz

This man can't be Peter the Roman. Maybe that will be the next one. Also he looks like no illuminati guy.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2013/03/13/the-first-words-of-pope-francis-i-good-evening/

Pope Francis only has one lung as a result of a respiratory illness in his youth:
http://alturl.com/ocoqy

He will no longer be able to ride public buses neither will he be able to cook for himself.
I hope he will be able to lead some serious reforms in the Vatican, cleaning up the pedophiles and banksters.

He could very well end up like John Paul I - the PTB could do a job on him... who knows?

 :o

I wish him the very best. He looks nice and a people's person. A welcome change from the one who occupied the seat before him.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: lee51 on March 13, 2013, 04:44:38 pm
Notice the Jesuit oath here:

http://www.libertyforlife.com/religion/jesuit_oath_of_office.htm
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 13, 2013, 09:26:44 pm
 Strange that this guy didn't ban contraceptives, from what I have heard he approved using them to protect infections.
 Who truly knows where the guy is headed. We all know the history of Jesuits, a percent of them are definitely loyal, devoted, mindlessly following, some may even be so well dipped they would kill in the belief they are doing God's work.
 Nothing new here is there, the Holy Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, heretics burned at the stake or simply tortured to death, look at our politics clergy, Billy the Graham for example,         remember..
Religion is swell, no problem unless they want your mind, body and soul, corporate religions want your $$ and obedience.
Big time religion has been and allways will be a corrider leading to controll. No offense to any religion or belief meant by my statement.
 My take on history is simple, it repeats. My sentiments about a guy who needs to be draped in gold, silk robes, sit on a throne, controll a corporation worth billions, have people bow before him and kiss rings.OK.. No rant, I like to remember Christ running around without a cent  in his purse, advising his disciples the same and sending them on their journey.He had no  No need for pompous insanity, but the San Hedrin relied on it. The same guys who screasmed for this Crucifixion
 Long ago I had a hallway house in South Boston, 36 guy capacity, vets, drunks, addicts, etc. A local rep of the Cardinal visited us and implored me and my partner to allow them to help, to have bingo, raffles etc. We didn't accept their aid, we told him this is Gods place  nor ours ,he takes care of it, he believed us to be naive though he couldn't understand how we were the most successfull joint without taking money or getting in the game. We were NON profit, oddly enough each resident had food, a hot and cot, support. It was the best 7 years of my life, miracles on a daily basis seeing a broken human being getting on his feet, a true high..
 The place name was the House of the Holy Spirit, most just called it the spirit house for short. They just couldn't get the picture if money wasn't in the frame.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: John_Back_From_The_Club_O on March 13, 2013, 10:24:46 pm
(http://abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/gty_bee_gees_ss4_jt_120415_ssh.jpg)

Sung to 'Nights on Broadway' by the Bee Gees....

Blaming it all!!, on the knights of Malta!  Singing those loves songs, singing those straight to the heart songs!!  Blaming it all! On the Nights of Malta... Blaming it on those knights!...   :D
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: lee51 on March 14, 2013, 12:19:13 am
Wow Chris, thanks for sharing--you're a real inspiration to me. 
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Valerius on March 14, 2013, 01:16:01 am
Not that I necessarily believe in the mumbo jumbo, but the literal translation of the phrase is Rock of Rome or Rome Rock as well as Peter the Roman.

Bergoglio is an Italian name. His parents were also Italians, I think.

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Jacob Law on March 14, 2013, 02:31:14 am
Strange that this guy didn't ban contraceptives, from what I have heard he approved using them to protect infections.
 Who truly knows where the guy is headed. We all know the history of Jesuits, a percent of them are definitely loyal, devoted, mindlessly following, some may even be so well dipped they would kill in the belief they are doing God's work.
 Nothing new here is there, the Holy Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, heretics burned at the stake or simply tortured to death, look at our politics clergy, Billy the Graham for example,         remember..
Religion is swell, no problem unless they want your mind, body and soul, corporate religions want your $$ and obedience.
Big time religion has been and allways will be a corrider leading to controll. No offense to any religion or belief meant by my statement.
 My take on history is simple, it repeats. My sentiments about a guy who needs to be draped in gold, silk robes, sit on a throne, controll a corporation worth billions, have people bow before him and kiss rings.OK.. No rant, I like to remember Christ running around without a cent  in his purse, advising his disciples the same and sending them on their journey.He had no  No need for pompous insanity, but the San Hedrin relied on it. The same guys who screasmed for this Crucifixion
 Long ago I had a hallway house in South Boston, 36 guy capacity, vets, drunks, addicts, etc. A local rep of the Cardinal visited us and implored me and my partner to allow them to help, to have bingo, raffles etc. We didn't accept their aid, we told him this is Gods place  nor ours ,he takes care of it, he believed us to be naive though he couldn't understand how we were the most successfull joint without taking money or getting in the game. We were NON profit, oddly enough each resident had food, a hot and cot, support. It was the best 7 years of my life, miracles on a daily basis seeing a broken human being getting on his feet, a true high..
 The place name was the House of the Holy Spirit, most just called it the spirit house for short. They just couldn't get the picture if money wasn't in the frame.

I heard:

white smoke, we have pope Francis who is a Jesuit.  First time ever have they elected a Jesuit for a pope, I don't even know if that's allowed, since the Jesuits take an oath to be faithfull to the pope.  How is that going to work?  Also they have a sworn duty to the black pope, the Jesuit leader.  So really now there is a white pope and black pope who are in charge, since the new pope takes orders from the black pope. 

This is all just getting confusing.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on March 14, 2013, 04:16:41 am
He has labelled those fellow Church leaders who enjoy the trappings of high office as hypocrites, saying they forget that Jesus bathed lepers and ate with prostitutes.

He lived in a small flat heated by a simple stove in a down town block, cooking for himself, travelling on buses and regularly visiting the sprawling slums on the outskirts of Argentina’s capital.

He is also a Vatican Outsider . . .



We could be looking at a very, very, short reign - just like John Paul I
After all, the last time they dared to elect a Pope who would ask questions he "died"

The reach of P2 (Progadanda Due), into the Vatican is documented and should be understood by all forum members.

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Donovan on March 14, 2013, 08:06:19 am

This man can't be Peter the Roman.


If he's the first Jesuit pope elected, and if the Jesuits take orders from the black pope, and Francis is the white pope. That means that Francis is merely the puppet pope, hence the black pope is the one calling the shots behind the scenes, thus is Peter the Roman.

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 14, 2013, 08:51:54 am
He has labelled those fellow Church leaders who enjoy the trappings of high office as hypocrites, saying they forget that Jesus bathed lepers and ate with prostitutes.

He lived in a small flat heated by a simple stove in a down town block, cooking for himself, travelling on buses and regularly visiting the sprawling slums on the outskirts of Argentina’s capital.

He is also a Vatican Outsider . . .



We could be looking at a very, very, short reign - just like John Paul I
After all, the last time they dared to elect a Pope who would ask questions he "died"

The reach of P2 (Progadanda Due), into the Vatican is documented and should be understood by all forum members.



Time will tell.

This Pope is a Pope for the people and the poor.

He is progressive and a modernist. When he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires he did not want Mass in Latin anywhere in his governorship. Those priests who said Mass in Latin were outcasted and sent to break-away Catholic groups. He is against everything old fashioned and traditionalist.

He always took the bus and the underground trains. He always flew in low-cost seats when forced to fly. He booked a non-refundable low cost seat to return to Buenos Aires once done with the election. He wanted to be back in plenty of time to prepare for Easter celebrations...

http://www.lastampa.it/2013/03/14/italia/cronache/la-cugina-torinese-usa-solo-voli-low-cost-2oiokxo9DCj7Yp33d8f8WL/pagina.html

He hates to travel. He thinks it's a waste of money. We should not expect to see him travelling the world like Pope John Paul II. He also hates everything glitzy, all the gold vestments and show-off. During the conclave and after he was nominated Pope he wanted to travel by mini-bus and not an official Pope car. This morning he was taken in a black car but not on the official Pope vehicle the one with the registration SCV1 (Central Service Vatican).

He loves Argentinian football and tango music. He had a current membership card in his local football club as Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio with his picture as a cleric.
http://www.repubblica.it/speciali/esteri/conclave-papa-elezioni2013/2013/03/13/foto/san_lorenzo_la_passione_calcistica_di_papa_francesco-54509773/1/#3

He is certainly an interesting man. He will get rid of some of the Curia and other hierarchy no doubt. He will pick his own people especially the Secretary of State. He will no longer be able to cook his own meals. Not sure if they will have the one person in charge of tasting the food before it is being served to him. That is also a part of the Papal protocol. They may have poisoned John Paul I's food. We don't know.

Pope Francis has only one lung. His other lung was taken out when he was young and they had hardly any antibiotics back in the days. He seems to be in decent health for now.

It could be a so-so short Papacy due to his age (76) but considering that Pope Emeritus Benny retired at 85 not being in any serious health condition this Pope could live until 90 or over. I bet he will not resign but nobody knows what the future holds.

 ::)


Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Jacob Law on March 14, 2013, 09:00:57 am
If he's the first Jesuit pope elected, and if the Jesuits take orders from the black pope, and Francis is the white pope. That means that Francis is merely the puppet pope, hence the black pope is the one calling the shots behind the scenes, thus is Peter the Roman.



Yea, and that is what makes this interesting
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 14, 2013, 10:19:50 am
Yea, and that is what makes this interesting

No Peter Turkson, no Tarcisio Bertone.

for those who like conspiracies/coincidences on this conclave, the St Malachy prophecy, numerology and the new Jesuit Pope there is an interesting thread on the Icke forums:

Black Pope End Times?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236091

from page 6 on...

and this:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238972

 ::)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on March 14, 2013, 11:51:02 am
Rome, Maryland

Rome, Maryland, was the original name of a community within Prince George's County, Maryland, which would eventually become Washington, District of Columbia.

Specifically, Rome was the original community name of Capitol Hill, upon which the United States Capitol Building sits.


Yes, do fear Rome and the New Roman Empire....
BUT, get it right...
As for the Black Pope, his name is Barry Sorterro




Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: jofortruth on March 14, 2013, 11:54:04 am
No Peter Turkson, no Tarcisio Bertone.

for those who like conspiracies/coincidences on this conclave, the St Malachy prophecy, numerology and the new Jesuit Pope there is an interesting thread on the Icke forums:


I asked a person I know who use to be a nun, and who also taught in a Catholic school about the St Malachy prophecy. She said it is not true.

So, there's another opinion!
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 14, 2013, 12:03:15 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio
Francis (Latin: Franciscus Ecclesiastical Latin: [franˈtʃiskus]; born Jorge Mario Bergoglio; 17 December 1936) is the 266th and current pope of the Catholic Church, elected on 13 March 2013. In that role he is both the leader of the Church and Sovereign of the Vatican City State.
 
A native of Buenos Aires, Argentina, he was ordained as a priest in 1969. In 1998 he became the Archbishop of Buenos Aires, and in 2001 a cardinal. Following the resignation of his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, on 28 February 2013, the conclave elected Bergoglio, who chose the papal name Francis in honour of Saint Francis of Assisi. He is both the first Jesuit pope and the first pope from the Americas. He is also the first pope from outside Europe since Pope Gregory III in the 8th century.
...
Early life
 
Jorge Mario Bergoglio was born in Buenos Aires, one of the five children of Italian immigrants of Piedmontese origin, Mario José Bergoglio, a railway worker, and his wife Regina María Sivori, a housewife.[2][3][4][5] In 1969, shortly after becoming a priest, Bergoglio had pulmonary problems which caused him to have a lung removed, but regained good health[6]. He graduated from a technical secondary school as a chemical technician and then, at the age of 21, decided to become a priest.[7]
 
Pre-papal career
 
Jesuit
 
Bergoglio entered the Society of Jesus on 11 March 1958 and studied to become a priest at the Jesuit seminary in Villa Devoto. In 1960, Bergoglio obtained a licentiate in philosophy from the Colegio Máximo San José in San Miguel; in 1964 and 1965, he taught literature and psychology at the Colegio de la Inmaculada, a high school in the province of Santa Fe, Argentina, and in 1966 he taught the same courses at the Colegio del Salvador in Buenos Aires.[8]
 
In 1967, Bergoglio finished his theological studies and was ordained to the priesthood on 13 December 1969, by Archbishop Ramón José Castellano. He attended the Facultades de Filosofía y Teología de San Miguel (Philosophical and Theological Faculty of San Miguel),[9] a seminary in San Miguel, Buenos Aires province. Bergoglio attained the position of novice master there and became professor of theology.
 
The Society of Jesus promoted Bergoglio and he served as provincial for Argentina from 1973 to 1979.[10] He was transferred in 1980 to become the rector of the seminary in San Miguel, and served in that capacity until 1986. He worked on a doctoral dissertation at Sankt Georgen in Germany for some months [11] and returned to Argentina to serve as confessor and spiritual director in Córdoba
...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/13/meet-the-new-pope-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio/#

On contraceptives and gay marriage, he has, in the past, taken strict, conservative stances. And he once called abortion a “death sentence” for the unborn.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: jofortruth on March 14, 2013, 02:47:42 pm
New Pope Tied to Argentina's Dirty War:
http://www.infowars.com/new-pope-tied-to-argentinas-dirty-war/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/operation-condor-trial-on-latin-american-rendition-and-assassination-program/5325882

Quote
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the former Archbishop of Buenos Aires who was elected Pope by the papal conclave on Wednesday, was intimately involved in Operation Condor’s “Dirty War” in South America.

A product of Chile’s DINA secret police and five other national security states in Latin America — Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay – Operation Condor was an intelligence operation designed to monitor, assassinate and disappear leftist dissidents who threatened the bankster economic operation underway in South America.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 14, 2013, 03:19:08 pm
Like an idiot , I was in Argentina in the summer of 1975 as a guest of a student at a Gaucho cattle ranch when we arrived at Buenos Aires the streets had military on every street corner with machine guns... What did I know ?

(http://www.argentour.com/images/gaucho_boleadoras.jpg)
Gaucho and his horse

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The Society of Jesus promoted Bergoglio and he served as provincial for Argentina from 1973 to 1979

http://www.uni.illinois.edu/~dstone/dis_background.html
Background to the Disappeared of Argentina, 1975 - Present

Between 1930 and 1973, Argentina suffered 30 military coups, with only a single president serving an entire term.

In September 1975, the highest level of the military approved a coup that overthrew the established Peron government.

During the next eight years, a military dictatorship characterized by government-based terrorism aimed primarily at students, young workers and intellectuals, was established. Censorship was rampant during this regime and all unions, political parties, and universities fell under military control.

At this time, General Jorge Rafael Videla stated that in order to guarantee the security of the state, all the necessary people will die. Suspected activists, their friends, and relatives were often abducted from their homes in the middle of the night and moved to government detention centers in which they were tortured and eventually killed.

These individuals who disappeared without a trace are referred to as the Disappeared. It is estimated that as many as 30,000 individuals disappeared over this time period. In March,1976, nine people disappeared for every two found murdered. People who protested these atrocities soon became one of the Disappeared or were murdered themselves.

Abducted women who were pregnant were kept captive in detention centers and military hospitals until the birth of their children, and then murdered shortly after delivery. Babies and young children of abducted individuals were also abducted, based on the assumption that subversives breed subversives. Abducted children were handed over to neighbors, given to orphanages or retained as war booty for childless couples who were part of the security forces. An estimated 220 children were abducted with their parents or born in captivity to abducted women.

On April 30, 1977, four mothers gathered at Plaza de Mayo to bring attention to their plight as they attempted to find their missing children. They were soon joined by the "Grandmothers," women who had given up hope of finding their own children, but believed that their grandchildren might have survived. In October, 1977, this group of women founded the Association of Abuelas (Grandmothers) of the Plaza de Mayo. In 1980, the Grandmothers found an article about identification by blood and asked several American scientists to help them create a grandparentage test.

...

http://onceuponatimeinthewest1.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/red-world-argentina-neo-peronist-regime-closely-allied-to-bolivarian-axis-military-junta-crushed-communist-insurgency-in-dirty-war/


>Red World: Argentina: Neo-Peronist regime closely allied to Bolivarian Axis, military junta crushed communist insurgency in "Dirty War"

(http://onceuponatimeinthewest1.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/juanperon1.jpg)

Peronist presidents of Argentina:
 
1) Cristina Kirchner (Front for Victory, formally leftist faction of Justicialist Party; wife of predecessor Nestor): December 10, 2007-present
 
2) Néstor Carlos Kirchner (Justicialist Party, leftist faction): May 25, 2003-December 10, 2007
3) Eduardo Alberto Duhalde (Justicialist Party): January 2, 2002-May 25, 2003 (interim)
4) Eduardo Oscar Camaño (Justicialist Party): December 31, 2001-January 2, 2002 (interim)
5) Adolfo Rodríguez Saá (Justicialist Party): December 23-31, 2001 (interim)
6) Federico Ramón Puerta (Justicialist Party): December 21-23, 2001 (interim)
7) Carlos Saúl Menem (Justicialist Party, rightist faction): July 8, 1989-December 10, 1999
8) Isabel María Estela Martínez de Perón (Justicialist Party, rightist faction): October 16, 1975-March 24, 1976 (deposed in military coup)
9) Ítalo Argentino Lúder (Justicialist Party): September 13-October 16, 1975 (acting)
10) Isabel María Estela Martínez de Perón (Justicialist Party’s rightist faction, third wife of Juan Peron): July 1, 1974-September 13, 1975
11) General Juan Domingo Perón (Justicialist Party, rightist faction): October 12, 1973-July 1, 1974 (died in office)
12) Dr. Raúl Alberto Lastiri (Justicialist Party, rightist faction): July 13-October 12, 1973 (interim, alleged member of Italy’s P2 Masonic lodge)
13) Dr. Héctor José Cámpora (Justicialist Party, leftist faction): May 25-July 13, 1973 (restored relations with Cuba, resigned)
14) Colonel Juan Domingo Perón (Labor Party, Justicialist Party’s rightist faction, open admirer of Benito Mussolini): June 4, 1946-September 21, 1955 (deposed in military coup; pictured above)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293032/Jorge-Mario-Bergoglio-Did-Pope-Francis-I-fail-stand-Argentinas-brutal-junta.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Did he fail to stand up to Argentina's brutal junta? Critics say Pope did little to help those who disappeared when country was under right-wing military rule

 Pope accused of not standing up to junta during so-called Dirty War
 Denies claims he turned blind eye to torturing of Jesuit priests
 Supporters say he put himself in danger to curb excesses of military

By Steve Doughty
 
PUBLISHED:19:12 EST, 13 March 2013

The Pope has been accused of failing to stand up to the brutal military junta that slaughtered tens of thousands of Argentines in its so-called Dirty War.

Critics say Jorge Mario Bergoglio did little to help those who disappeared when the country was under right-wing military rule – and too much to criticise the left-wing opponents of the generals.

He has even been accused of turning a blind eye to the rounding up and torturing of his own Jesuit priests, something he strongly denies.
....

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/14/article-2293032-18A4D004000005DC-751_306x452.jpg)
Pope Francis (left) with Jorge Videla, head of the Argentine Junta, responsible for the death, disappearance and torture of tens of thousands of Argentines in its so-called Dirty War

...

The period became a by-word for brutality, with thousands of families suffering the disappearance of loved ones and the adoption by the armed forces of murder methods such as throwing detainees out of aeroplanes.

One form of torture for families was the kidnapping of babies of mothers murdered as enemies of the regime and their adoption by families approved by the military dictatorship. The bishops of Argentina, led by Bergoglio, published an apology in October last year in which they acknowledged that the church had not protected its faithful.

However the statement still blamed leftists as well as the junta for the killings.
 
The bishops appealed for information about where bodies had been buried or knew identities of stolen babies to come forward.
 
However the apology came too late for liberal and left critics.

They point to Bergoglio’s refusal to give evidence in open court on the events of the 1970s until 2010, when his answers were considered evasive by some.
 
He is also accused of failing to prevent the torture of two of his own Jesuit priests, Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics, both supporters of left-wing liberations theology who were seized by the regime in 1976.
 
However supporters of Bergoglio say he took risks behind the scenes, including visiting the home of dictator Jorge Videla to say mass and appeal for mercy.
...

http://www.thenews.pl/1/6/Artykul/128713,Polish-Knights-of-Malta-rebuild-prewar-legacy
Polish Knights of Malta rebuild pre-war legacy
 01.03.2013 11:32

As the Order of the Knights of Malta celebrates its 900th anniversary, the Polish branch is rebuilding its legacy having been banned during the communist era

(http://www.thenews.pl/98a92182-4c01-4355-9e17-b4ae2fc9e9b9.file)
Chairmen of the Polish Knights of Malta Aleksander Tarnowski (L) and Andrzej Potworowski (R) entering St. Peter's Basilica at the Vatican on the 900th anniversary of the order. Photo: Anna Donimirska

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB185/index.htm
ON 30th ANNIVERSARY OF ARGENTINE COUP

NEW DECLASSIFIED DETAILS ON REPRESSION AND U.S. SUPPORT FOR MILITARY DICTATORSHIP

Kissinger sought immediate support for the new military regime in spite of staff warnings on bloodshed

22,000 people murdered or disappeared by military between 1975 and 1978 according to secret Chilean intelligence report

Secret Argentine documents record Operation Condor kidnappings and disappearances carried out by military intelligence Battalion 601.

Posted - March 23, 2006

Washington, D.C., March 23, 2006 - On the eve of the 30th anniversary of the military coup in Argentina, the National Security Archive posted a series of declassified U.S. documents and, for the first time, secret documents from Southern Cone intelligence agencies recording detailed evidence of massive atrocities committed by the military junta in Argentina.

The documents include a formerly secret transcript of Henry Kissinger's staff meeting during which he ordered immediate U.S. support for the new military regime, and Defense and State Department reports on the ensuing repression. The Archive has also obtained internal memoranda and cables from the infamous Argentina intelligence unit, Battalion 601, as well as the Chilean secret police agency, known as DINA, which was secretly collaborating with the military in Buenos Aires.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Press-Photo-Street-scene-Buenos-Aires-Argentina-/251104765236
(http://pictures.historicimages.net/pictures/_4/3739/3738592.jpg)
ADDITIONAL DETAILS: This is an original press photo. Inflation In Argentine: With the ever increasing high rate of inflation which is bringing in its wake more unemployment, shops in the fashionable Calle Florida, Buenos Aires, are forced to offer theit goods at greatly reduced prices, but they are still too high for these Argentine onlookers. Photo measures 10 x 6.75inches. Photo is dated 09-09-1975.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 14, 2013, 04:46:57 pm
 Argentina was hell on earth for many years. Henry K. luved it.
 Sadistical Pyschopaths given a free reign, I may be off base but I heard somewhere the US Intell sent squads of experts in the art of torture to train ( teachers-advisors) , torture techy's.
 Looks like the new pope has a tad of explaining, but no worrys he's the POPE..Strange how folks are being told MSM 24/7 how humane and caring a fella this guy is. Get ready for some bedtime stories........
 Personelly, when these guys put on their silken robes, gold jewelry, sit on their gem imbeded throne and stick out their ring to get kissed    I'm not impressed, in fact it disqusts me.
Corporate religions telling the folks how to live, wow, the more things look like their changing-they're not, it's back to the dark ages.  In days of old there was a man who approached the holy bosses and said something along the lines, they were filled with shiiite.
 Yup, they had him wacked out.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 14, 2013, 04:58:18 pm
interesting:
http://www.nhcommentary.com/dean_dexter_archive.html
(http://www.nhcommentary.com/Embassy-Christmas_Carols.jpg)
Christmas carols at the embassy residence, with James and Graham Hill, and U.S. Ambassador Robert C. Hill, Buenos Aires, Argentina, December 1975. Dean Dexter at far left. -- Dean Dexter collection

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Hill
United States Ambassador to Argentina In office 15 February 1974 – 10 May 1977

 http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2004/12/hitchens200412
December 2005
International Affairs
Kissinger Declassified

As Chile and Argentina finally seek justice for those who were tortured, raped, and "disappeared" under the right-wing dictatorships of the 70s, the declassification process in Washington is revealing the horrifying complicity of then U.S. secretary of state Henry Kissinger.

by Christopher Hitchens
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Dean Dexter, second from right, flanked by Embassy security personnel and J. B. Hill (kneeling), Buenos Aires, 1975. Photo by William Graham Graham Hill

http://womennewsnetwork.net/2010/10/21/argentina-mothers/
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Mother of Plaza de Mayo on the 34th anniversary of the military coup, she holds a sign of her son and daughter-in-law who became part of 'the disappeared' on July 29, 1976. Image: Marie Trigona/WNN
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: jofortruth on March 14, 2013, 05:54:11 pm
Joel Skousen has some interesting things to say about Pope Francis I history in Argentina (Radio Liberty 40:00 mins into 1st hour) 3-14-13
http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/radioLiberty/archives.php


Will be posted on GCN shortly! Show in process!

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: DAVIDE MTL on March 14, 2013, 10:33:24 pm
Bad luck Obama! No American Pope tonight... well... Latin American... not USA!

 ::)

and the new Pope is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC-9q_E5JFQ&feature=youtu.be

https://twitter.com/CatholicNewsSvc/status/311952476381274112/photo/1

Bergoglio for Pope is a welcome surprise. It defeated all the experts bets. A people's person and a total opposite of ultra-sophisticated fashionista Benedict XVI.

http://twitpic.com/cb3ctz

This man can't be Peter the Roman. Maybe that will be the next one. Also he looks like no illuminati guy.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2013/03/13/the-first-words-of-pope-francis-i-good-evening/

Pope Francis only has one lung as a result of a respiratory illness in his youth:
http://alturl.com/ocoqy

He will no longer be able to ride public buses neither will he be able to cook for himself.
I hope he will be able to lead some serious reforms in the Vatican, cleaning up the pedophiles and banksters.

He could very well end up like John Paul I - the PTB could do a job on him... who knows?

 :o

I wish him the very best. He looks nice and a people's person. A welcome change from the one who occupied the seat before him.

unfortunately this pope like all the post vatican popes is not Catholic,

the fact that he celebrated Hanukkah in a Jewish Temple, and participated in non-Christian worship, by itself constitutes a total knockout punch.  It’s a fact from which he and his supporters cannot recover no matter how hard they try.  It proves to anyone with any bit of good will that he’s not the pope, and exposes his malicious apostasy in gory detail. 
brother dimond
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 15, 2013, 05:32:12 pm
 It suks being a cynic, but I have to confess I am. I wish I could scream , holler and cheer for any guy the MSM proposed to be a true human being on a mission of honesty and honor.
 I can't profile this guy, and frankly given the evidence I have sniffed around in find it impossible. My take , it's a wait and see. He has been received enormous attention as being a champion of the poor, humble, in short the perfect image of a pope.
 Problem is I just don't swallow the headlines and propaganda, Yup I have a problem with corporate religions, not the parishioners.
In fact I have a problem, throughout my life I have seen mucks getting into positions of power deceiving and end up joining the elite club.
  Unfortunately I have to wait and see. The publicity reminds me of Obamas campaign promises, promises,,MSM, no offense to those of this religion.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: lee51 on March 15, 2013, 08:15:04 pm
Well this link shares some interesting info about this new pope and quotes several Statesman back in the 1800's.  It also tells about their secret societies, etc.

http://www.zengardner.com/jesuit-pope-agenda-meet-the-templars-knights-of-malta-and-blackwaterxe-exterminators/

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: White Rose Sophie on March 15, 2013, 11:05:16 pm
Francis (Latin: Franciscus Ecclesiastical Latin: [franˈtʃiskus]; born Jorge Mario Bergoglio; 17 December 1936) is the 266th and current pope of the Catholic Church, elected on 13 March 2013. In that role he is both the leader of the Church and Sovereign of the Vatican City State.

Elected on 3-13-2013?

Nope, nothing significantly occultic there.

 :o :o
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: jofortruth on March 16, 2013, 07:24:17 am
Someone also mentioned something occultic in the time the white smoke started and the time he appeared at the window? It was 7:06pm when the white smoke appeared and 75 mins later he appeared, 8:21pm local time.

What is the significance, if any?


Also, is there any connection to a (first time) Jesuit from S. America (first time) becoming pope right after Venezuela's leader, Chavez, dies?



Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: larsonstdoc on March 16, 2013, 12:23:22 pm
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=317

  Tom Horn wrote Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope is Here.
  An email he wrote to Steve Quayle is below.



TOM HORNS RESPONSE TO THE NEW POPE--HE FULFILLS THE PROPHECY

Steve

I'll be back on Monday then gone all week after that. But check this out:

He absolutely NAILED the prophecy! Jorge Mario Bergoglio is Italian (Roman) and a Jesuit. This is a VERY important aspect of our prediction in our book because we said the name "Petrus Romanus" from the prophecy "implies this pope will reaffirm the authority of the Roman Pontiff over the Church and will emphasize the supremacy of the Roman Catholic Faith and the Roman Catholic Church above all other religions and denominations, and its authority over all Christians and all peoples of the world" (Petrus Romanus pgs 437-438)
Concerning the Jesuits, their order was organized "to stop Protestantism from spreading and to preserve communion with Rome and the successor of Peter..." (wikipedia)

Also note this from Wikipedia:

The 35th General Congregation of the Society of Jesus convened on 5 January 2008 and elected Fr. Adolfo Nicolás as the new Superior General on 19 January 2008. A month after, the Pope (Benedict) received members of the General Congregation and urged them to "to continue on the path of this mission in full fidelity to your original charism" and asked them to reflect so as "to rediscover the fullest meaning of your characteristic 'fourth vow' of obedience to the Successor of Peter." For this, he told them to "adhere totally to the Word of God and to the Magisterium's task of preserving the integral truth and unity of Catholic doctrine." This clear identity, according to the Pope, is important so that "many others may share in your ideals and join you effectively and enthusiastically." The Congregation responded with a formal declaration titled "With New Fervor and Dynamism, the Society of Jesus Responds to the Call of Benedict XVI", whereby they confirmed the Society's fidelity to the Pope.

Of course the 'fourth vow' is a blood oath according to some ex-catholics (http://www.redicecreations. com/specialreports/2006/04apr/ jesuitbloodoath.html)

As a Jesuit, Bergoglio makes the perfect Pope to fulfill our second book's Chardinian Jesuit predictions who argue in favor of a coming an alien savior.

Also note this Pope was elected on 3-13-13 at 8:13 (phenomenally occult numerology) Vatican time while the Pan-SARRS

Mar 13, 2013
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 16, 2013, 02:47:04 pm
I would worry more about what's happening in Cyprus -- bank runs that could spread to the whole Euro zone over the weekend than the new Pope being or not being Peter the Roman.
My thought is that he is not Peter the Roman. My idea is he is a decent man who wants to clean up the House (the Vatican) and sell a lot of property to profit the poor. The problem is that he very well might end like Pope John Paul I - with a very short pontificate. Francis Jorge Bergoglio of Buenos Aires is a Hugo Chavez of Papacy -- it won't go well with the PTB. I would not be surprised if Emeritus Pope Benedict lives a longer life than his successor Francesco Jorge Bergoglio.


The Cyprus bank run fever could spread to Spain, Portugal, Italy and France in a flash.


Shock in Cyprus as savers face bailout levy


One man threatens to break into a Kyperounta Co-operative bank branch with his bulldozer, while others speak of their anger

People in Cyprus have reacted with shock to news of a one-off levy of up to 10% on savings as part of a 10bn-euro (£8.7bn; $13bn) bailout agreed in Brussels.

Savers could be seen queuing at cash machines amid resentment at the charge.

The deal reached with euro partners and the IMF marks a radical departure from previous international aid packages.

President Nicos Anastasiades defended it as a "painful" step, taken to avoid a disorderly bankruptcy.

The Cypriot leader, who was elected last month on a promise to tackle the country's debt crisis, will address the nation on Sunday.

read more:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21814325#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa

 ::)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 16, 2013, 03:01:20 pm
Incredulity at decision gives way to fury

In a radical departure from previous aid packages - and one that gave rise to incredulity and anger across the country - euro zone finance ministers forced Cyprus' savers to pay up to 10 per cent of their deposits to raise almost 6 billion euros.Savers haven't paid, it has been taken, ie STOLEN
The deposit levy - set at 9.9 per cent on bank deposits exceeding 100,000 euros and at 6.7 per cent on anything below that - will take force on Tuesday after a bank holiday on Monday.

"They call Sicily the island of the mafia. It's not Sicily, it's Cyprus. This is theft, pure and simple," said a pensioner.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/baolout/incredulity-decision-gives-way-fury/20130316#comments

 ::)

"The Levy is a one-off measure."

LIARS

 >:(
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Jacob Law on March 17, 2013, 08:42:55 pm
Revelation 17:11   And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 18, 2013, 03:45:02 pm
Since the papal inauguration ceremony is tomorrow, I thought some of you might find the following of historical interest:

     http://www.wealthandwant.com/HG/the_condition_of_labor.htm (http://www.wealthandwant.com/HG/the_condition_of_labor.htm)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 18, 2013, 04:13:45 pm
Articles

Vatican releases Pope Francis' coat of arms, motto and ring
Pope Francis will mix his Argentine past with his Roman present to create his new papal coat of arms.

The papal ring is in gold-plated silver and was originally offered to Paul VI in the 1960's.
The Vatican also unveiled the coat of arms and motto Francis will use - which remain the same as those he used as archbishop of Buenos Aires.
The coat of arms shows three symbols on a blue background: at the top, a sun with the letters IHS in the middle - the logo of the Jesuit Society - and underneath a five-point star and a lily, symbolising the Virgin Mary and St Joseph.

read more:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9937813/Vatican-releases-Pope-Francis-coat-of-arms-motto-and-ring.html

The Papal ring - not gold but gold plated silver

Detailed picture - all Popes rings have Saint Peter on them.
http://www.infobae.com/notas/701540-Otro-gesto-el-anillo-del-Papa-no-sera-de-oro.html

Football and Argentine Tango: the new Pope's passions
pictures
http://www.repubblica.it/speciali/esteri/conclave-papa-elezioni2013/2013/03/13/foto/san_lorenzo_la_passione_calcistica_di_papa_francesco-54509773/1/#1

He had a membership for the football team in his native neighborhood of San Lorenzo de Amagro
They are the best team in the country. He was made a life member after he became Pope.

Tomorrow morning will be the new Pope's inaugural Mass in Saint Peter's square.
Some like US Vice-President Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Argentine President Cristina Kirchner -- none of them are known for friends of the poor -- will be showing off their faces at the Pope's inaugural ceremony.

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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 19, 2013, 01:03:21 pm
Is this the U.S. V.P. Joseph Biden? Why did he look so uptight? This was a happy ceremony not a funeral.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration17_zpsbd7b0bad.jpg)

 :o

I caught a few screen shots during the Pope's inaugural ceremony this morning. We never get to see Frau Merkel with husband. This time he was there. Now we know what he looks liike.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration16_zps0273c200.jpg)

 ;D

Exotic characters

Oriental Bishops

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration5_zps22c3f285.jpg)

Asian King

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration26_zps49b51c4c.jpg)

Sheikhs

Well fed Sheikh

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration14_zps3d20869f.jpg)

Slim Westernized Sheikh

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration13_zps43345133.jpg)

Smiling Sheikha

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration20_zps0fd22a5d.jpg)

Mufti

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration18_zpsa529e5c8.jpg)

Asian dignitary

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/Inauguration25_zpsf7b4dfc3.jpg)


Zimbabwe dictator Mugabe with wife
http://www.lastampa.it/2013/03/19/multimedia/italia/il-dittatore-mugabe-il-papa-ascolta-in-silenzio-WCO07tSjCfN2r6uM8Py0WJ/pagina.html

eewww

 :o

Pope Inaugural giant street fiesta in Buenos Aires
http://www.lastampa.it/2013/03/19/multimedia/esteri/festa-per-il-papa-la-notte-magica-di-buenos-aires-2G8Qsd69v5x73wTDXFMkAL/pagina.html

 :D

Riding in the Popemobile to cheering crowds

http://www.lastampa.it/2013/03/19/multimedia/italia/bagno-di-folla-per-il-papa-sulla-jeep-scoperta-Soams4gvnVmMqTIcThlDeM/pagina.html

 :D
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 19, 2013, 08:40:34 pm
Hey shipgeek.
 I want ya to know that i respect ya, like your posts and then some, you have been around the block and shoot strait.
Point, I'm just saying, I can't make a call on this, I don't trust the Vatican, or any other organized corporate religion for that
matter, $$$$, ya know. Maby this guy is 100% on the level, I don't know, have doubts but can't hit the dime.
 Its been said some Popes have gone to teach the Vatican the deal, and then discoivered the Vatican was teaching the. So who knows?
 Ya, I like the hype, he sounds MSM cool, lets hang on and wait, or at least thats what I'm doing.
T assume that religions have never been involved with politics just doesn't get there for me. No offense.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 19, 2013, 08:45:31 pm
I caught a few screen shots during the Pope's inaugural ceremony this morning. We never get to see Frau Merkel with husband. This time he was there. Now we know what he looks liike. ...

Thanks for that post -- very interesting characters... like casablanca ... rounding up the usual suspects...
(http://blogs-images.forbes.com/work-in-progress/files/2011/09/casablanca-henrieid-bergman-rains-bogart-1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: John_Back_From_The_Club_O on March 19, 2013, 08:47:23 pm
I'm just saying, I can't make a call on this,

They ain't make'n Popes like they used to.   ;)
Title: New pope’s economic stance
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 21, 2013, 01:56:34 pm
Note: I'm starting to sense that the new Pope is, if nothing else, at least less bad than the last one was. Time will tell.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/19/294355/new-popes-economic-stance/ (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/19/294355/new-popes-economic-stance/)

New pope’s economic stance

Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
PressTV
March 19, 2013

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Newly-elected Pope Francis I

The election of Jorge Mario Bergoglio as head of the Roman Catholic Church marks a watershed, since this is the first time that a prelate from a third world or developing country has become Pope.

Bergoglio is also strongly identified with Catholic social doctrine, which has traditionally stressed a preferential option in favor of the needs of the poor, rather than a concern with the privileges of the rich, combined with a rejection of laissez-faire, neoliberal (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=231568.msg1354835#msg1354835), or monetarist economics in favor of social solidarity. Francis has set his first official day in office on the March 19 festival of St. Joseph the carpenter, the patron saint of workers.

This papal election was also remarkable for what did not occur. Elements of the US Catholic hierarchy, evidently backed by forces within the State Department and the Obama White House, had made no secret of their desire to take control of the Vatican and employ it henceforth as an abject tool of US imperial policy. The New York Times and Washington Post contributed articles seeking to highlight the many advantages which they claimed would derive from electing the first American pope. The delegation of US cardinals, second in numbers only to the Italians, attempted to act as a political machine in Rome on the eve of the conclave, giving daily press conferences in an attempt to stampede the 115 members of the College of Cardinals into electing an American.

According to insider reports, the manager of this effort to elect an American pope was New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who focused on the effort to install Boston Cardinal Sean O’Malley as the new pontiff. Italian newspaper accounts revealed that O’Malley’s main advisor was the clergyman Terrence Donilon, the brother of Tom Donilon, the political operative who currently serves as the director of the National Security Council in the Obama White House. The danger was thus clear enough that, if O’Malley had prevailed, the next pope would get his inspiration from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


Since the 1943 Anglo-American invasion of Italy during the time of Pius XII, the Vatican has continuously found itself under pressure to toe the London-Washington imperial line. Some popes were able to assert a significant degree of independence, notably Paul VI Montini, whose reign marked the high point of influence within the church by veterans of the wartime European resistance against fascism. More recently, the Polish Pope John Paul II sought to condemn the aggression committed by the Bush administration, but was always pulled in the other direction by the Polish tendency to look to Washington as a counterweight against Russia. Benedict XVI turned out to be far weaker, reflecting the postwar subordination of Germany to the United States. He was always on the defensive because he had taken part in German air defense during World War II.

The anti-imperialist tradition is strong in Argentina

But now we have a pope whose national origin will tend to impel him towards independence from Washington. Among all the nations in Latin America, Argentina is surely second to none in its tradition of national sovereignty and resistance to imperialism, a tradition which has persisted through many changes of political regime. According to some reports, 10 Downing Street in London has already witnessed apoplectic scenes by Prime Minister David Cameron due to the fact that Pope Francis I Bergoglio, as the Argentinean that he is, regards the Malvinas (or Falkland) Islands as an integral part of Argentina, regardless of any referendum staged there by the British among their colonizers.

On the day after his election, Francis went personally to the guesthouse where he had been staying in Via della Scrofa in downtown Rome to pay his bill and pick up his baggage. As part of this gesture of humility, he had no elaborate security and no disruptive motorcade, but rode in a single automobile of the papal gendarmes. Under Benedict XVI, the Vatican had appeared under siege, doubtless as a result of the pope’s gullible acceptance of the Anglo-American phantom of a global war on terror. The Vatican remains haunted by the mysterious death of John Paul I in 1978, and by the 1981 attack carried out by Ali Agca, a co-worker of Frank Terpil of the CIA. But Francis is signaling that he is not afraid, and is not willing to hunker down behind the Vatican walls.

Another danger which has been avoided is the election of an oligarch camouflaged as a modernizer or reformer. This was the role sought by the late Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini of Milan, who did not live to see this year’s conclave. This year’s plausible oligarch-reformer might have been Cardinal Schonborn of Vienna, a representative of the feudal aristocracy of the Holy Roman Empire. And there were others seeking to play this role. Instead, Bergoglio brings with him the concerns of the global South, starting with the imperative of economic development and the eradication of poverty.

Bergoglio’s track record in this regard is instructive. The Argentine military junta of 1976-1983 and the neoliberal (http://corpwatch.org/article.php?id=376) economic policies it started wrecked the nation’s economy during the 1990s. By the end of the military government, unemployment was at 18% officially, and there were bouts of hyperinflation at the end of the 1980s. Under the pro-IMF economics Minister Domingo Cavallo, Argentina established a fixed rate of exchange to the US dollar. The propertied classes indulged in massive tax evasion and sent flight capital to foreign banks. Taking power in the midst of this crisis, President de la Rua imposed seven rounds of brutal austerity, driving unemployment up to 20% in December 2001. When the IMF cut off further loans to Argentina, there was a panic run on the banks. Strikes and riots forced de la Rua to resign and flee on December 21, 2001.

During the latter months of 2001, Bergoglio did not hesitate to lecture President de la Rua to his face Sunday after Sunday about the bankruptcy of neoliberal economics and the terrible social consequences, as Rua sat in his pew of the cathedral in Buenos Aires. During this time, Bergoglio commented that extreme poverty and the “unjust economic structures that give rise to great inequalities” constituted violations of human rights and that social debt was “immoral, unjust and illegitimate.” During a strike by public employees in Buenos Aires, Bergoglio noted the differences between, “poor people who are persecuted for demanding work, and rich people who are applauded for fleeing from justice.” (“Argentines protest against pay cuts,” BBC, August 8, 2001)

[Continued... (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/19/294355/new-popes-economic-stance/)]
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 23, 2013, 10:43:25 am
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/irishoriginsexcerpts/ch41.html

(http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/miscimages/Jesuit_Symbol.jpg)

The emblem of the Jesuits features an Atonist solar rays. IHS was originally the insignia for Bacchus, himself a derivation of Aryan Iesa or Esus., The Pope has, from the inception of the Roman Church, been referred to as Servus Servorurm Dei - "Servant of the Servants of God"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Ges%C3%B9
Church of the Gesù

The Church of the Gesù (Italian: Chiesa del Gesù; Italian pronunciation: [ˈkjɛːza del dʒeˈzu]) is the mother church of the Society of Jesus, a Roman Catholic religious order also known as the Jesuits.

Officially named Chiesa del Santissimo Nome di Gesù all'Argentina[1][2] (English: Church of the Most Holy Name of Jesus at the "Argentina"),[3] its facade is "the first truly baroque façade", introducing the baroque style into architecture.[4] The church served as model for innumerable Jesuit churches all over the world, especially in the Americas. The Church of the Gesù is located in the Piazza del Gesù in Rome.
...
Legacy
 
The Church of the Gesù was the model of numerous churches of the Society of Jesus throughout the world, starting from the Church of St. Michael in Munich (1583–1597), the Corpus Christi Church in Niasviž (1587–1593), as well as the Church of St. Ignatius of Loyola in Buenos Aires (1710–1722) (Pagano 1947:18). Various parishes also share the name of the Church of the Gesù in Rome

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/rome-il-gesu

In 1540, Saint Ignatius of Loyola needed a church to serve as the center of his newly founded Society of Jesus (the Jesuits), which the Farnese-family Pope Paul III formally recognized that year. One of the Society's members was the priest of a church called Our Lady of the Way, which the Pope designated as the Society's official church.  Saint Ignatius, finding the church too small, began fund-raising to construct a church worthy of the "Name of Jesus."  It took him 10 years to get the necessary permits before he could break ground.  

But the original site wasn't ideal, so new plans were drawn up with Michelangelo being involved in the design.  A second ground-breaking ceremony took place, but this time wealthy neighbors fought the construction which would affect their houses. The Pope's grandson, who was now Cardinal Farnese, agreed to fund the church and the final ground breaking took place in 1568, 18 years after the first.  Unfortunately, St. Ignatius never lived to see the construction, but the church became his final resting place, making Il Gesù an important shrine for pilgrims to this day.

Address: Piazza del Gesu, Via degli Astalli, 16, Rome, Italy

http://bigsiteofhistory.com/the-jesuits-and-the-inquisition-1540-1556-the-protestant-reformation
The Jesuits and the Inquisition, 1540-1556 | The Protestant Reformation

The greatest of these clerical orders by far was the Society of Jesus, founded in 1540 by the Spaniard Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556). Loyola, who had been a soldier, turned to religion after receiving a painful wound in battle. From the first the Jesuits were the soldiery of the Catholic church; their leader bore the title of general, and a military discipline was laid down in Loyola’s Spiritual Exercises, which set the rules for the order.
 
The Jesuits have always been a center of controversy. To their hostile critics, the Jesuits have seemed unscrupulous soldiers of the pope, indulging in dirty fighting if such tactics seemed likely to bring victory. They have been accused of preaching and practicing the doctrine that the end justifies the means and also of pursuing worldly power and success. Yet historical record leaves no doubt of Jesuit success in bolstering the spiritual as well as the material credit of Catholicism.
 
Jesuits seemed to be everywhere, in Hungary, in Poland, in England, in Holland, trying to win back lands and peoples from the Protestants. They were winning new lands and peoples on the expanding frontiers of the West, in India, in China, in Japan, in North America. They were martyrs, preachers, teachers, social workers, counselors of statesmen.
...
While the Society of Jesus was the chief new instrument of the Catholic Reformation, an old instrument of the church was also employed—the Inquisition. This special ecclesiastical court in its papal form had been started in the thirteenth century to put down the Albigensian heresy, and in its Spanish form in the fifteenth century to bolster the efforts of the new Spanish monarchy to force religious uniformity on its subjects. Both papal and Spanish inquisitions were medieval courts that used medieval methods of torture, and both were employed against the Protestants in the sixteenth century.
 
Protestant tradition sometimes makes both the Inquisition and the Jesuits appear as the promoters of a widespread reign of terror
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http://one-evil.org/content/entities_organizations_jesuits.html

Foundation
 
The Jesuits were founded initially as The Company of Jesus on "Assumption Day" August 15, 1534, also being the traditional feast day for Lucifer since 70CE, in a secret ceremony in the crypt of the Chapel of St. Denis by Ignatius of Loyola (born Íñigo López de Loyola) and Francisco Xavier, Alfonso Salmeron, Diego Laínez, and Nicolás Bobadilla all from Spain, Peter Faber from Savoy in France, and Simão Rodrigues from Portugal.
 
The formation was approved by Francis Borja, of the infamous "Borja" also known as Borgia/Borga, Duke of Grandia, grandson of Pope Alexander VI and the patron of Ignatius of Loyola. Francis Borja was the principle financier and architect in the formalization of the Jesuits into the first dedicated military order of monks of the Catholic Church. He was also responsible for securing the Papal Bull Regimini militantis (September 27, 1540) from Borja family friend Alessandro Farnese Pope Paul III which first gave the Jesuits official status as an order.
 
Ignatius of Loyola first came to the attention of the young Duke of Grandia by 1529 after Ignatius was again arrested by the Inquisition for practicing extreme religious devotion. Borja saw potential in the extreme military based devotion being preached by Ignatius of Loyola and his desire to establish an order of military monks. It was the young Borja who saved the life of Ignatius from the Inquisition.
 
At the death of Ignatius in 1557, Francis Borja was expected to be the second Superior General. However, his ambitions were hampered firstly by arch-enemy Giovanni Pietro Carafa as Pope Paul IV (1555-1559). Carafa had been one of the greatest enemies of Borja Pope Alexander VI and immediately nominated Diego Laynez (James Lainez) as Superior General.
 
Pope Paul IV died in August of 1559 and was replaced by Giovanni Angelo de' Medici (Pope Pius IV). In both cases, Jesuit Superior General Diego Laynez aligned himself closely making him virtually untouchable.
 
However, after Pope Pius IV rounded up and tortured and murdered Benedetto Accolti and other members of Papal families in an alleged failed plot, Cardinal Borja made his move and Pius IV was poisoned to death on December 9, 1565. A few days later, Superior General Diego Laynez suffered the same fate and soon after Cardinal Francis Borja was unanimously elected the third Superior General.
...
The Re-establishment of spiritualism in Jesuits and addressing of Nihilism
 
By 2008, the Jesuit Order, especially in the United States was a shell of its former brilliance.  Over populated by blissfully nihilistic, barely competent, arrogant and undisciplined recruits, the once dominant United States faction had slid to a terminal point of complete irrelevance. It was at this time that Peter Hans Kolvenbach chose to resign from the office of Superior General to become a "visitor" - a role focused on the revival of the spiritual dimension of the Order.
 
The election of Pope Francis on March 14th 2013, the traditional "Day of Blood" and ancient birthday of Mithra represents a further historic turning point for the Jesuits and the Catholic Church in a rejection of the insanity of nihilism and the potential implementation of promised reforms of Vatican II and focus on personal responsibility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Borgia,_4th_Duke_of_Gand%C3%ADa

Saint Francis Borgia, S.J., 4th Duke of Gandía
was a Grandee of Spain, a Spanish Jesuit, and third Superior General of the Society of Jesus. He was canonized on 20 June 1670 by Pope Clement X.

http://one-evil.org/content/people_16c_borga.html
...
The Borja whilst wealthy and of position, had continued to lose face and influence within the Papal corridors of power, particularly since the infamous publishing of Dante Alighieri epic poem The Divine Comedy (1316) and the slandering of the Borja both as part of the eighth circle of Hell and notable members in it in serving Lucifer.

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Don't know what to say about this but who knows? :
http://iasios.blogspot.com/2008_05_01_archive.html
Vatican Assassins - part two
...

The Inquisition in Holland The Great Terror of the Sixteenth Century
Arrested at night, tortured underground and upon confession, the accused was handed over to “the secular arm” to be burned. Over the centuries sixty-eight million perished amidst this horror according to one of our heroes, the late ex-Jesuit, Alberto Rivera.

To deceive the Nations it [The Inquisition] was formally abolished in 1834, but it continued in secrecy, and later openly, under other names.

In the Twentieth Century the Jesuits have conducted their Inquisition under the names of Nazism, Fascism, Communism and now Islamic Terrorism with their Inquisitors, Adolf Hitler, Francisco Franco, Joseph Stalin and now Osama bin Laden.

Today the Black Pope orders his Holy Office of the Inquisition, renamed in 1965 “The Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,” through his International Intelligence Community headed by the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

Ridpath’s Universal History, John Clark Ridpath, (New York: Merrill & Baker, 1901) Vol. XIII, p. 297.

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INTERESTING showing the connections of the dots...

The Jesuit Banking System - Eric Jon Phelps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZErwZqwD0Q
Day 2 Alberto Rivera (Ex Jesuit Priest)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 23, 2013, 01:18:25 pm
Pope meets with Pope (retired).

First time in History. There was no existing protocol for the two Popes meet-up. All was improvised.

The new Pope meets his predecessor Pope Benny for prayer, lunch and private talks.

Pope Benny welcomed Pope Francis after he landed in the helicopter. He welcomed him like an old friend or a brother.

Videos:
http://www.lastampa.it/2013/03/23/multimedia/italia/un-filo-diretto-tra-i-papi-l-analisi-di-giacomo-galeazzi-14wANXFmbZuz92bTqJIxTO/pagina.html

http://www.lastampa.it/2013/03/23/multimedia/italia/papa-francesco-incontra-raitzinger-FC1irWoDgFasm2IDt57p3L/pagina.html

Pictures:
http://www.lastampa.it/2013/03/23/multimedia/italia/lo-storico-incontro-fra-papi-a-castel-gandolfo-bfQd886ArsPIK51SCr5ZeI/pagina.html

The article said there was no array of guests invited for lunch. There was only the two Popes and their assisting Bishops.  Old Pope Benny seems to have trouble walking, even with a cane.

 :'(

The new Pope Francis looks in very good health despite living with only one lung.

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 23, 2013, 01:44:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TijVj0U4W2A
ILLUMINATI's Covert War Against HAILE SELASSIE I King of Kings & the Lost Black Sheep pt 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihl37a6Rg_I
HAILE SELASSIE I Warning: Godless Cruel Dragon (Illuminati) - May 5th 1941 part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVznhQnaGPU
Alex Jones addresses the Jesuit question.

Uploaded on Dec 16, 2009
After a caller questioned Lord Monckton s sincerity on his Climate Change stance based on his Knighthood into the Knights of Malta, this was Alex's response.
Title: Re: New pope’s economic stance
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 23, 2013, 02:44:14 pm
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/19/294355/new-popes-economic-stance/ (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/19/294355/new-popes-economic-stance/)

New pope’s economic stance

Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
PressTV
March 19, 2013

Note: In light of the above article, is it safe to assume that Thomas Woods Jr. (along with other ideological disciples of Father James A. Sadowsky (http://lewrockwell.com/gordon/gordon103.html)) is not exactly a fan of the new Pope?

http://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/debunking-tom-woods-catholic-austrian-economics/ (http://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/debunking-tom-woods-catholic-austrian-economics/)

Debunking Tom Woods’ “Catholic” Austrian economics

by Memehunter
The Daily Knell and Real Currencies
October 21, 2012

By all appearances, Thomas Woods Jr., a noted promoter of the “Catholic” strand of Austrian economics, is being groomed as the heir apparent to Lew Rockwell in the Libertarian propaganda network. Given Woods’ increasing role and visibility, his background and ideas deserve to be explored further, and the contradictions between the Catholic doctrine and Austrian economics need to be exposed.

As documented in The “Catholic” Arm of Libertarianism (http://thedailyknell.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/the-catholic-arm-of-libertarianism/), the Jesuits’ involvement in the Libertarian-Communist false dialectic (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=232841.0) is nothing new, and has in fact been ongoing for several centuries. In fact, according to Mises Institute’s founder Lew Rockwell, the Spanish Jesuits (http://mises.org/daily/3787) of the University of Salamanca were the founders of modern “free-market” thinking. Not surprisingly, Jesuits are also behind several of the Austrian think-tanks and propaganda outlets that have sprouted all over America in the last century.

While the Jesuits’ involvement with education and intellectual life may be laudable in some respects, many readers will no doubt be aware that the Jesuits occupy a significant position in the globalist elite’s hierarchy, and that their ideologies and goals often differ substantially from those associated with the traditional Catholic doctrine. In fact, as I wrote in The “Catholic” Arm of Libertarianism, Jesuits are likely part of a long-term Illuminati plot to “infiltrate and subvert Catholicism from within”.

Clearly, Thomas Woods Jr. is being positioned to slowly take over Rockwell and continue this dubious tradition of “Catholic” Austrian economics. In fact, Woods has devoted a considerable part of his output to justifying the “free market” from a “Catholic” perspective (see for instance The Church and the Market: A Catholic Defense of the Free Economy (http://www.amazon.com/The-Church-Market-Catholic-Economics/dp/0739110365)).

However, there are apparently indissoluble differences between the Catholic and Austrian perspectives, and Woods, despite his scholarship and clever arguments, has not been able to avoid them entirely. In this article, we will first expose Woods’ connections to the Jesuit hierarchy as well as to other “controlled opposition” movements, before discussing some of the contradictions inherent in his intellectual positions.

Father James Sadowsky, SJ: the éminence grise behind Rothbard and Woods

The term "éminence grise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89minence_grise)" (grey eminence) was first used to describe a French monk who advised Cardinal Richelieu behind the scenes. The tradition continues today with Jesuit priests discreetly advising and guiding academics who are then charged of disseminating their ideas to an unsuspecting public.

One such grey eminence was Father James Sadowsky (http://www.jesuit.org/2012/09/09/sadowsky-james-a/) (1923-2012), who taught at Fordham University for 38 years. Sadowsky, a co-president (http://www.noodls.com/view/E97890E3FBF4265B8987059229836DDD5F17B19E) of the International Philosophy Quarterly, was no run-of-the-mill Jesuit: while he was teaching in Beirut (prior to his appointment at Fordham), one of his students was Peter-Hans Kolvenbach who later became the General Superior of the Jesuits and, according to some alternative researchers, one of the most powerful men on the planet.

Sadowsky, described as an “anarcho-catholic priest (http://anarcho-catholic.blogspot.co.at/2012/09/james-sadowsky-sj-december-28-1923.html)”, was a close friend (http://anarcho-catholic.blogspot.co.at/2011/03/inconvenient-jesuit.html) of Murray Rothbard from the early 1960s until Rothbard’s death. While we are told that Sadowsky and Rothbard mutually influenced each other and did not always agree on everything, it is reasonable to suspect that Sadowsky was behind many of Rothbard’s ideas (http://mises.org/daily/6198/Private-Property-and-Collective-Ownership), given what we know of the Jesuits’ modus operandi.

Sadowsky likely exerted a major influence on Woods as well: Woods cited Sadowsky’s writings several times in The Church and the Market and openly sought to acknowledge Sadowsky’s contribution (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/120340.html) to his book.

Besides the questionable Jesuit infiltration of the Catholic doctrine, it is important to document Woods’ and Rothbard’s connections with Sadowsky as this corroborates the evidence already presented on this blog and elsewhere regarding the Jesuits’ centuries-old campaign for the acceptance of usury in Catholic countries, as well as their unremitting role in fanning the flames of the Libertarian-Communist dialectic (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=232841.0).

[Continued... (http://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/debunking-tom-woods-catholic-austrian-economics/)]
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 23, 2013, 02:56:08 pm
Interesting Jesuit/SMOM/Bilderberg connections to S.F. and California  (BofA and Wells Fargo etc,,, :  

FULLY ARMED Russian ships pay a "Friendly" visit to San Francisco 6-20-2010  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=176023.msg1048325#msg1048325)

Quote
http://www.fleetweek.us/
San Francisco Fleet Week - October 7 - 12, 2010
(http://www.mygen.com/images/Feinstein-Schultz.jpg) (http://www.fleetweek.us/Feinstein-Schultz.jpg)
2010 Fleet Week co-chairs Honorable George Schultz  {Bilderberg - SMOM} and U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein {Bilderberg}.

Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94901)
Feinstein Recalls Assassination Of Milk, Moscone - Made in San Francisco - Jonestown and Official San Francisco:
The Untold Story

...
Some interesting things about the SF Bay Area:  MilitaryIndustrialComplex:


http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/feinstein-dianne
Dianne Feinstein b. 1933

The eldest of three daughters, she was born on June 22, 1933, to Dr. Leon Goldman, a surgeon and professor at the University of California, San Francisco, and Betty (Rosenburg) Goldman. Both of her parents came from Russian immigrant families. The Goldmans were proud of their heritage and could trace their family tree back for generations. Sam Goldman, Dianne’s paternal grandfather, helped to found several temples in California, while his son Leon became a prominent donor to San Francisco’s Mount Zion Synagogue. Dianne’s mother’s family, the Rosenburgs, had a more distant relationship with Judaism. Some of them belonged to the Russian Orthodox church.
 
While growing up, she was greatly influenced by her paternal uncle. Morris Goldman, in contrast to his Republican-minded brother Leon, was a populist who worked in the city’s garment district and who introduced Dianne to the idea of the working class. He took her to San Francisco’s City Hall to watch a meeting of the Board of Supervisors, sparking her interest in politics early on. By observing her father and her uncle, she learned to weigh both sides of an argument and to think about the complexities of an issue.
 
She attended a Jewish religious school, but later enrolled at the Convent of the Sacred Heart, a prestigious private Catholic high school, in accordance with her mother’s wishes. At that time she met California Attorney General Edmund (Pat) Brown, the father of a classmate. The teenaged Feinstein impressed Brown with her interest in political life. After Brown was elected governor of California, he sought out Dianne and gave her a job as an advocate for prison reform.

After graduating from Sacred Heart (the first Jew to do so), she entered Stanford University, where she excelled academically and became actively involved in politics.

She was vice president of her class and joined the Young Democrats. She graduated in 1955, and then worked as an intern in public affairs for the Coro Foundation.
...
 
In 1962, she married Bertram Feinstein, a distinguished neurosurgeon who was a colleague of her father and twenty years her senior. Their marriage, which lasted until Bertram’s death in 1978, gave Feinstein the freedom to pursue her political career. In 1980, she married Richard Blum, a successful investment banker who advises her and helps in her political campaigns.

(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/jamesfallows/assets_c/2012/03/California_State_of_Mind_01-thumb-300x238-81143.jpg) Edmund Pat Brown and his son Jerry ...

Governor Brown appointed Feinstein a member of the California Women’s Board of Terms and Parole in 1960, where she gained her first experiences in criminal reform.

In 1968, she served on the San Francisco mayor’s committee on crime and committee on adult detention. A year later, she became the first woman president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. Her success and popularity in this capacity won her reelection for two additional terms.
 ...

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/03/13/gov-brown-pleased-new-pope-is-jesuit/
Gov. Brown Pleased New Pope Is Jesuit
March 13, 2013 4:59 PM

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS/AP) — Gov. Jerry Brown, who trained as a Jesuit, said Wednesday that he is pleased to see a Jesuit elected pope.
...
“I’m glad he’s a Jesuit,” Brown told reporters during a question-and-answer session. “He is from Argentina, so that might give him a broader perspective to see the world through the Southern Hemisphere, but what the hell do I know? I thought Jesuits weren’t allowed to consider higher office. At least they weren’t in my day.”
 
As a young man, Brown spent two years studying to become a priest at a Jesuit seminary in the San Francisco Bay Area, the Novitiate of the Sacred Heart in Los Gatos. After serving as governor from 1975 to 1983, he also studied Zen Buddhism at a Japanese monastery and later briefly worked alongside Mother Teresa in India.

http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/How-California-turned-blue-Biography-of-ex-Gov-2702339.php
How California turned blue / Biography of ex-Gov. Pat Brown tracks the rise and reign of the state's Democrats
Reviewed by Joshua Spivak
 January 30, 2005

(http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/10/21/17/2167789/5/628x471.jpg)

On America's color-coded electoral map, California is now painted a solid blue. The state overwhelmingly supported the Democratic candidates in the past four presidential elections. George W. Bush didn't even bother making a contest of the nation's largest electoral prize in 2004. Before the unprecedented Gray Davis recall, the statewide elected government was almost devoid of Republicans. But it was not always this way.
 
The Golden Bear State once voted strongly Republican -- so much so that for the entire first half of the 20th century, only one Democrat was elected governor, and he served for a single term. In the Republican electoral sweep in 1950, top-of-the-ticket Democratic luminaries like Jimmy Roosevelt, FDR's son, and Helen Gahagan Douglas suffered overwhelming defeats. A solitary Democrat -- the party's attorney general candidate -- managed to survive the Republican onslaught and win statewide office. Fortunately for the Democrats, it was the right man: the glad-handing, two-term San Francisco district attorney, Edmund "Pat" Brown.

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Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/How-California-turned-blue-Biography-of-ex-Gov-2702339.php#ixzz2OOaLUzPc
Title: Re: New pope’s economic stance
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 23, 2013, 02:58:29 pm
Note: In light of the above article, is it safe to assume that Thomas Woods Jr. (along with other ideological disciples of Father A. James Sadowsky (http://lewrockwell.com/gordon/gordon103.html)) is not exactly a fan of the new Pope?

If so, then when it comes to the Austrian (http://recoveringaustrians.wordpress.com/top-ten-austrian-economic-lies-and-mistakes/)- and Chicago School (http://michael-hudson.com/2010/05/neoliberal-economics-v-theology/)-dominated "Right" and the Marxist (http://books.google.com/books?id=D5QWAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false)- and Keynesian (http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/allen-john_economic-consequences-of-john-maynard-keynes-1983.html)-dominated "Left," it would seem Pope Francis is an equal opportunity offender:

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/18/leftists-are-doing-everything-they-can-to-hurt-pope-francis/ (http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/18/leftists-are-doing-everything-they-can-to-hurt-pope-francis/)

Leftists Are Doing Everything They Can to Hurt Pope Francis

by Deal Hudson
LifeNews.com
3/18/13

It really didn’t matter who the cardinals elected as the new pope. The Left, and we know who they are, hate the Church. Regardless who walked out on the balcony of St. Peter’s Basilica, there would be no honeymoon, hardly time for a hiccup, in fact, before the Left and its media goons started to bash him.

As Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, recently chronicled (http://www.catholicleague.org/critics-of-the-pope-emerge/), the barrage of lies, spin, and accusations has already begun.

When you hate the Church, when you wish for its destruction, or at least for its transformation into another vehicle for secularization, you will naturally do all you can to hurt Her leader.

(http://lifenews.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/popefrancis11.jpg)

The Left can’t really help it (I can’t bring myself to call them “progressives, their preferred self-description) because they are not only left on the political spectrum, but they left true liberalism a long time ago, about the time they left civilized, humane conversation, a form of dialogue that sincerely cared about reaching the truth.

Francis himself, however, actually galls them: A Jesuit who rejected liberation theology (“Oh, the horror!), a South American cardinal who opposed the government on abortion (http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/15/2013/03/13/new-pope-francis-called-abortion-the-death-penalty-for-the-unborn/), euthanasia, and gay-lesbian adoption, and, most of all, his lifestyle provides no clubs to beat him with — he rides the bus, will not live in archdiocesan palaces, and wears the simplest of clerical robes.

In his first public gesture, Francis I bowed to the thousands in St. Peter’s Square, as if to say, “I will be your servant.”

Some readers may think it hyperbole to claim the Left “hates” the Church. Anyone who by 2013 thinks such a claim an exaggeration will not be convinced by any evidence I could offer here.

Perhaps the most egregious fact of all: Led by the epicenter of anti-Catholic hatred, The New York Times, the Left considers the priest sex scandal a definitive corroboration of all their disdain towards the Church and its moral teachings. Yet, the same media ignore similar, and worse, patterns of child abuse in public schools, the Boy Scouts, and other religious denominations, including Judaism.

The Church gets special treatment. For the Left, priestly hypocrisy proves the falsehood of the Church’s moral principles, particularly on matters of sex, including celibacy, contraception, marriage, and, of course, homosexuality. And the moral standard a person strives but fails to attain is refuted. But they fail to notice how their argument leads to the nullification of all moral standards, even their own.

[Continued... (http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/18/leftists-are-doing-everything-they-can-to-hurt-pope-francis/)]
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 23, 2013, 03:15:51 pm
Anti-Jesuit hmmm: How could that be?


http://www.reformation.org/
(http://www.reformation.org/en-loyola-statue.jpg)
The Jesuits were founded on August 15, 1540, for one reason: to destroy the blessed Reformation of Saint Martin Luther

Spaniard Ignatius Lieola was co-founder of the Jesuits with Francis Borgia, the great-grandson of Pope Alexander VI.

In this statue in the Vatican, Lieola can be seen holding the Jesuit Constitutions, while he tramples underfoot a Christian with a Bible . . . and a serpent!!


http://www.xtimeline.com/evt/view.aspx?id=565067

(http://www.xtimeline.com/__UserPic_Large/63675/evt100524172700056.jpg)

Spanish Armada: The battle

Jul 29, 1588

 The Spanish Armada begins. The Spainiards arranged their ships in athight crescent-shaped formation. The english had developed fast, maneuverable ships that let them stay out of range from the Armada. The Spanish started out with about 30,000 sailors and soldiers and 130 ships

(http://cdn.dipity.com/uploads/events/c1c12c0b34db885cbefe4fd1b18d8ab2_1M.png)

http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/spanish-inquisition.htm


The Spanish inquisition flamed up once again during the occupation of the Low Countries (Belgium and the Netherlands) in the 16th century. The Spanish authorities saw religious affiliation as political affiliation, and religious dissent as political dissent. In truth, Protestantism had become linked to Dutch nationalism and to the independence movement against Spain.

 In 1566, Dutch Protestants stormed into churches to destroy religious pictures and statues, which they saw as idolatrous. A new wave of Spanish religious persecution ensued under the Duke of Alva. But Protestantism in northern Europe, protected by powerful princes, was too strong for a new inquistion to succeed. Later, When the Netherlands became independent, the new Dutch Reformed leaders began clamping down on Catholics, just as the Spanish had clamped down on Protestants. Divisiveness and affluence seems to have withered the strength of the Dutch Anabaptists in a way that persecution had not.
...

www.tracts.ukgo.com/netherlands_inquisition.doc
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THE great cause of the revolt which, within a few years, was to break forth throughout the Netherlands, was the inquisition
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The Spanish Inquisition, strictly so called, that is to say, the modern or later institution established by Pope Alexander the Sixth and Ferdinand the Catholic, was doubtless invested with a more complete apparatus for inflicting human misery, and for appalling human imagination, than any of the other less artfully arranged inquisitions, whether papal or episcopal.  It had been originally devised for Jews or Moors, whom the Christianity of the age did not regard as human beings, but who could not be banished without depopulating certain districts.  It was soon, however, extended from pagans to heretics.  The Dominican Torquemada was the first Moloch to be placed upon this pedestal of blood and fire, and from that day forward the “Holy Office” was almost exclusively in the hand of that band of brothers.

 In the eighteen years of Torquemada’s administration, ten thousand two hundred and twenty individuals were burned alive, and ninety seven thousand three hundred and twenty-one punished with infamy, confiscation of property, or perpetual imprisonment, so that the total number of families destroyed by this one friar alone amounted to one hundred and fourteen thousand four hundred and one

http://www.heritage-history.com/www/heritage-books.php?Dir=books&author=macgregor&book=netherlands&story=inquisition
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Among all the inquisitors in the Provinces the name of Peter Titelmann was perhaps the most dreaded. Throughout Flanders, Douay, and Tournay his name was feared and his presence loathed. Noiselessly and swiftly he descended upon these, the most thriving and populous districts of the Netherlands. R

emorselessly, like a great bird of evil omen, he swooped down upon the inhabitants, bringing with him grim terror and agony worse than death. The trembling peasants offered little or no resistance as they were dragged from their firesides or their beds and thrust into the dungeons, where torture, strangling, or burning awaited them. The paralysis of fear was on the country, and Peter Titelmann knew it right well.
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(http://www.sikharchives.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Inquisition_Holland.jpg)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 23, 2013, 04:25:22 pm
Now see what/why they covered up the IHS?
(http://www.mygen.com/images/obama-jesuit-georgetown-speech.jpg)

Impeach Obama Now Or Forever Hold Up Peace  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=121160.msg1397536#msg1397536)

(http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/files/2012/08/Tory_Obama.jpg)

Barack Obama's small town guns and religion comments

Barack's comments that are generating all of the controversy: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxXUufI3jA)

http://www.myspace.com/wardyg/photos/10351866#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A10351954%7D
(http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/105/04c764fae5a441cf9b46527b52076ffc/l.jpg)
(http://www.mygen.com/images/georgetown-obama.jpg)
Whitehouse removes INRI  of Jesus at Obama's request before speaking at Georgetown University and put up a BLACK PYRAMID!!!! [ The acronym INRI (Iēsus Nazarēnus, Rēx Iūdaeōrum) represents the Latin inscription which in English reads as "Jesus the Nazarene, King of the Jews" ]

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: kita on March 23, 2013, 05:24:26 pm

I think its time for people to drop superstitious rubbish and judge a man on his works only.

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 23, 2013, 06:02:20 pm
I think its time for people to drop superstitious rubbish and judge a man on his works only.

http://www.france24.com/en/20130322-popes-argentine-church-divided-dirty-war

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Two Catholic priests and a layman murdered during the regime in 1976 are being considered for sainthood under a process launched by Bergoglio when he was the archbishop of Buenos Aires.
 
But other priests have been implicated in the regime's crimes, including former Buenos Aires police chaplain Christian Von Wernich, sentenced to life in prison in 2007 for six killings, 31 cases of torture and 42 abductions.
 
And Jorge Videla, the general who ruled Argentina from 1976-1981, when some of the worst violations were carried out, was quoted in a 2012 book as saying the junta had "very good" relations with the church.
 
Relatives of victims of the "Dirty War" -- which killed an estimated 30,000 people -- accuse the clergy of remaining silent and in some cases of denouncing the regime's opponents.
 
The famous Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo organization, founded in 1977 to help locate children kidnapped during the military era, have accused Bergoglio of failing to do enough -- then or now.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 23, 2013, 07:01:52 pm
 From all MSM chatter and comments this pope is a good fella, many have brought up points that are arguable, but who knows..
 I'm not going to get into a religious debate, my beliefs and my manner of faith and prayer are mine, I carry no banner and don't judge any parishioners religion, its strictly their personell choice, free will and freedom of worship.
 I do have a problem with corporate religions, money makers, controll artists, using the basic human desire to seek the creator.
 I despise the guys that conned the folks on a lower level as well, the Jim Swaggarts or the Fays for example, milking the people they   blatantly deceived.
 A religion that is mastered by the few, those who take command over humanity's hope and need for faith no matter how they decorate their churches, tabernacles, cathedral's, no matter what costumes they may wear, if they are powerfull enough to be a political $ entity or influence $ in the snake pit of  governments, politics it just may be they are off track a tad and those who stay on bended knee before these titled holy men may be well intended and convinced they are on the stairway to heaven, I regress.
 Please don't interpret my remarks as a religious invitation to debate, or in any way an attack on ones faith I take no issue with any persons faith or form of worship, I do however dislike those chartered corporations who use the humble seeking a true faith and hope.
 Historically, as Tahoe pointed out, there have been a few gliches , money and controll are not included in spirtual grace.
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: DAVIDE MTL on March 23, 2013, 08:27:16 pm
Anti-Jesuit hmmm: How could that be?


http://www.reformation.org/
(http://www.reformation.org/en-loyola-statue.jpg)
The Jesuits were founded on August 15, 1540, for one reason: to destroy the blessed Reformation of Saint Martin Luther


the blessed reformation of that lunatic Luther? you better do some research
LUTHER’S PREOCCUPATION WITH
THE DEVIL AND CRUDE SUBJECTS
Martin Luther also had a preoccupation with th
e Devil, with the bathroom, and with matters
one can only call disgusting. Even Protestant scholars have noted that Luther’s fascination
with crude subjects is disquieting. He admitt
edly had much interaction with the Devil.
“These [demons] would haunt the imagination of Martin Luther who had visions, which he
believed to be actual physical occurrences, of the devil hurling [excrement] at him and his
hurling it back. Indeed, in one of his many anal combats with the devil – in which Luther
would challenge the devil to ‘lick’ his posterior – Luther thought the best tactic might be to
‘throw him into my anus, where he belongs.’” (H.W. Crocker,
Triumph
, Roseville, CA:
Prima Publishing, 2001, p. 237.) After he had come to his position against the Papacy,
Luther called the “Papal decretal
s the Devil’s excretals.” He
also said that the pope and
cardinals should be killed, and that he and his supporters should wash their “hands in their
blood.” (Pastor,
History of the Popes
, Vol. 7, p. 393.)
Luther claims that he came up with justification by faith alone while on the toilet. He
claims that it came as “knowledge the Holy Spirit gave me on the privy in the tower.”
(Quoted in William Manchester,
A World Lit only By Fire: The Medieval Mind and the
Renaissance
Little Brown & Co., 1993, p. 140.) In fact, Luther’s idea that people need to
commit real and “honest” sins seems to have originated from a conversation with the Devil.
This is from Luther’s
Table Talk
.
"[Luther said:] When I awoke last night, the Devil came and wanted to debate with
me; he rebuked and reproached me, arguing that I was a sinner. To this I replied:
Tell me something new, Devil!
I already know that perfectly well; I have
committed many a solid and real sin.
Indeed there must be good honest sins
-
not fabricated and invented ones - for God to forgive for God's beloved Son's sake,
who took all of my sins upon Him so that now the sins I have committed are no
longer mine but belong to Christ. This wonderful gift of God I am not prepared to
deny, but want to acknowledge and confess."
With these facts in mind, it should be quite clear how those who followed Luther’s eventual
conclusions (the core of which are
faith alone
and
Scripture alone
)
are simply following
the machinations, inventions and discoveries of a man
. They are following the
inventions of a man who was guided and used by the Devil to create a false version of
“Christianity” which would lead countless people astray.

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 23, 2013, 09:52:47 pm
the blessed reformation of that lunatic Luther? you better do some research
LUTHER’S PREOCCUPATION WITH THE DEVIL AND CRUDE SUBJECTS
...

your quote is from:

(http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/header.jpg)
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/luther_denominations.pdf

So torture, inquisitions and stake burning was the answer?  The Jesuits were formed to destroy all other religions and the Protestant religion  specifically and to be the world religion.

Burning and destroying the non catholic was the way back in the day , have they really changed?

I'm not a Lutheran but more power to them.
 

(http://www.mygen.com/images/Burning_at_Stake.jpg) (http://books.google.com/books?id=83TIDLqjxrsC&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=lutheran+stake+burnings&source=bl&ots=MTCnrQwUGr&sig=Ut3q188aGAQnIEZxE4r9ex99lQc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NmtOUY__JsrQyAGai4H4DQ&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=lutheran%20stake%20burnings&f=false)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/17/world/americas/17church.html?_r=0
Argentine Church Faces ‘Dirty War’ Past
By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Published: September 17, 2007

...
The attitude of the church was scandalously close to the dictatorship” that killed more than 15,000 Argentines and tortured tens of thousands more, the priest told a panel of three judges here, “to such an extent that I would say it was of a sinful degree.” The panel is deciding the fate of the Rev. Christian von Wernich, a priest accused of conspiring with the military who has become for many a powerful symbol of the church’s role.

The church “was like a mother that did not look for her children,” Father Capitanio added. “It did not kill anybody, but it did not save anybody, either.”

Father Capitanio’s mea culpa came nearly a quarter century after the junta was toppled in 1983 and democracy was restored. But in some ways, it occurred at just the right time. Through the trial of Father von Wernich, Argentina is finally confronting the church’s dark past during the dirty war, when it sometimes gave its support to the military as it went after leftist opponents.

That past stands in stark contrast to the role the church played during the dictatorships in Chile and Brazil, where priests and bishops publicly condemned the governments and worked to save those being persecuted from torture and death.

Officially, the church has maintained its silence throughout the trial, even knowing weeks in advance that Father Capitanio had been compelled by the tribunal to testify. The priest said in an interview that he was not ordered by the church to testify and was not speaking on its behalf.

Father von Wernich worked as a police chaplain during the dictatorship, from 1976 to 1983. He escaped to Chile but was found in 2003 in the seaside town of El Quisco by a group of journalists and human rights advocates. He was working as a priest under the name Christian González.
...
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: DAVIDE MTL on March 24, 2013, 10:49:21 am
your quote is from:

(http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/header.jpg)
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/luther_denominations.pdf

So torture, inquisitions and stake burning was the answer?  The Jesuits were formed to destroy all other religions and the Protestant religion  specifically and to be the world religion.

Burning and destroying the non catholic was the way back in the day , have they really changed?

I'm not a Lutheran but more power to them.
 

(http://www.mygen.com/images/Burning_at_Stake.jpg) (http://books.google.com/books?id=83TIDLqjxrsC&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=lutheran+stake+burnings&source=bl&ots=MTCnrQwUGr&sig=Ut3q188aGAQnIEZxE4r9ex99lQc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NmtOUY__JsrQyAGai4H4DQ&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=lutheran%20stake%20burnings&f=false)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/17/world/americas/17church.html?_r=0
Argentine Church Faces ‘Dirty War’ Past
By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Published: September 17, 2007

...
The attitude of the church was scandalously close to the dictatorship” that killed more than 15,000 Argentines and tortured tens of thousands more, the priest told a panel of three judges here, “to such an extent that I would say it was of a sinful degree.” The panel is deciding the fate of the Rev. Christian von Wernich, a priest accused of conspiring with the military who has become for many a powerful symbol of the church’s role.

The church “was like a mother that did not look for her children,” Father Capitanio added. “It did not kill anybody, but it did not save anybody, either.”

Father Capitanio’s mea culpa came nearly a quarter century after the junta was toppled in 1983 and democracy was restored. But in some ways, it occurred at just the right time. Through the trial of Father von Wernich, Argentina is finally confronting the church’s dark past during the dirty war, when it sometimes gave its support to the military as it went after leftist opponents.

That past stands in stark contrast to the role the church played during the dictatorships in Chile and Brazil, where priests and bishops publicly condemned the governments and worked to save those being persecuted from torture and death.

Officially, the church has maintained its silence throughout the trial, even knowing weeks in advance that Father Capitanio had been compelled by the tribunal to testify. The priest said in an interview that he was not ordered by the church to testify and was not speaking on its behalf.

Father von Wernich worked as a police chaplain during the dictatorship, from 1976 to 1983. He escaped to Chile but was found in 2003 in the seaside town of El Quisco by a group of journalists and human rights advocates. He was working as a priest under the name Christian González.
...
my quote is from Most Holy family monastery who quoted directly from books which I posted, are you denying Luther said what was posted?
the inquisition is not a clear cut subject, don't fall for all the protestant propaganda, as for the church and what they did in Argentina this is not the Catholic Church but the false vatican 2 sect, they are Catholic in name only, we haven't had  a true pope since 1958 , these are all facts which can be obtained at the most holiy family website
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 24, 2013, 11:52:48 am
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303561504577494892862130970.html
Vatican Peels Back Veil on Its Bank
June 28, 2012

VATICAN CITY—The Vatican bank offered a rare glimpse inside its fortified headquarters as part of the Holy See's efforts to persuade financial regulators and the public that the secretive institution is committed to cracking down on money laundering.
...
More recently, the bank has been thrust to the front lines of a power struggle between Vatican officials who are at odds over the Holy See's efforts to clean up its finances. In May, Italian economist Ettore Gotti-Tedeschi was ousted as the bank's chairman three years after he was tapped to overhaul the bank. Italian newspapers have brimmed with reports of infighting among prelates that the Vatican says were based on documents leaked by the pope's butler.

Mr. Cipriani described the Vatican bank as a financially cautious organization that has €6 billion ($7.48 billion) in assets, including gold reserves at the U.S. Federal Reserve. The bank invests less than 5% of its portfolio in riskier securities like stocks, Mr. Cipriani said.
 
Messrs. Cipriani and Gotti-Tedeschi are being investigated by Italian prosecutors for allegedly violating Italy's antimoney-laundering laws. Prosecutors allege the executives allowed the bank to circulate tens of millions of euros through encrypted money transfers that made it difficult for authorities to identify who was behind the transactions.


Interesting Goldman guy William C. Dudley  is Prez at the New York Fed  how could that be? ....

http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/orgchart/dudley.html
William C. Dudley - President

William C. Dudley became the 10th president and chief executive officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on January 27, 2009. In that capacity, he serves as the vice chairman and a permanent member of the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), the group responsible for formulating the nation's monetary policy.

Previously, Mr. Dudley served as executive vice president of the Markets Group at the New York Fed, where he also managed the System Open Market Account for the FOMC. The Markets Group oversees domestic open market and foreign exchange trading operations and the provisions of account services to foreign central banks.

Prior to joining the Bank in 2007, Mr. Dudley was a partner and managing director at Goldman, Sachs & Company and was the firm's chief U.S. economist for a decade.

Prior to joining Goldman Sachs in 1986, he was a vice president at the former Morgan Guaranty Trust Company.
Mr. Dudley was an economist at the Federal Reserve Board from 1981 to 1983.

Mr. Dudley received his doctorate in economics from the University of California, Berkeley in 1982 and a bachelor's degree from New College of Florida in 1974.

In 2012, Mr. Dudley was appointed chairman of the Committee on the Global Financial System of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).
Previously, Mr. Dudley served as chairman of the Committee on Payment and Settlement Systems of the BIS from 2009 to 2012.
He is a member of the board of directors of the BIS and a vice chairman of the Economic Club of New York

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-vatican-bank-20130324,0,4814106.story
Vatican bank troubles await pope's attention
Francis inherits Benedict's struggle to clean up the secretive institution, which has been plagued by suspicion of money laundering
By Tom Kington, Los Angeles Times
March 23, 2013, 7:22 p.m.

VATICAN CITY — As he begins work, Pope Francis will find a pile of files in his in-tray on sex abuse and squabbling cardinals. But he will also come across a thick dossier on the Vatican's secretive bank, which his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, tried to drag into the daylight after years of suspicion that it was a haven for money launderers.
 
After struggling to get the Vatican onto a coveted European "white list" for clean banks, Benedict suffered a setback last year when his top manager, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, was fired by the bank's board, officially for incompetence. Gotti Tedeschi saw things differently, contending that "an honest person [at the bank] who wants to do good is ousted!"
...

Set up in 1942, the bank has 33,000 accounts and $7 billion in assets, all run from a former Vatican prison building. It is intended to serve priests, dioceses and religious orders, but its high volume of cash transactions, global activity and limited information about account holders have set off several alarm bells.
,...
in 2010, prosecutors again alleging money laundering seized $30 million from two accounts at other banks used by the IOR, after claiming official inquiries had been met with "deafening silence." The cash was handed back when the Vatican set up an internal watchdog to keep an eye on the IOR, part of a papal edict issued by Benedict in December 2010 to move the bank toward meeting European transparency rules.
...
In 2012, the Vatican removed the bishop of Trapani in Sicily during an investigation into possible shifting of funds through an IOR account opened by a local priest after the alleged illegal sale of church properties. Prosecutors suspected Sicilian Mafia involvement.
...
As a Jesuit, Francis understands how to manage organizations, and he understands power," said Marco Politi, an Italian Vatican expert. "I would not put it past him to now convert the bank into a regular bank, with all the transparency rules that entails."

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CNBC EXCLUSIVE: CNBC TRANSCRIPT:
CNBC'S STEVE LIESMAN SITS DOWN WITH
WILLIAM C. DUDLEY, PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK, TODAY ON CNBC (http://www.cnbc.com/id/32673673/CNBC_EXCLUSIVE_CNBC_TRANSCRIPT_CNBC039S_STEVE_LIESMAN_SITS_DOWN_WITH_WILLIAM_C_DUDLEY_PRESIDENT_OF_THE_FEDERAL_RESERVE_BANK_OF_NEW_YORK_TODAY_ON_CNBC)

...
STEVE: There's also a little bit of gold down in your basement, right?

WILLIAM DUDLEY: Yeah. I think we have the biggest supply of gold in the world.
It's not the U.S.'s gold. It's foreign gold. It sits in our basement. The building was actually built around the gold vault. They built the vault, and then they built the building.

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 24, 2013, 12:29:44 pm
I think its time for people to drop superstitious rubbish and judge a man on his works only.


+ 1000
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 24, 2013, 12:45:58 pm
http://www.archives.gov/research/holocaust/bibliographies/nazi-gold.html

Bibliography: Nazi Gold

1. Ain, Stewart. "Nazi gold stored in NY: Federal Reserve stash may contain fillings pulled from Jewish victims of Holocaust". Jewish Week 209, no.21(September 20, 1996): 1.
Note: According to recently declassified documents, a pile of gold bars, believed to be the largest repository of gold in the world, is stored in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York vaults in lower Manhattan. The declassified State Department documents indicate that the cache includes tons of Nazi gold found at the Merkers salt mine in Germany.
Filed in the Library at A8.

...
136. Stanglin, Douglas. "Follow the money". U.S. News & World Report 124, no.1(January 12, 1998): 15.
Note: Found among the documents at the National Archives recently is a brief intelligence report asserting that a Croatian priest, in contact with the Vatican and sponsor for Croatian Fascists hiding in Rome after World War II, worked with this group to hide millions in gold looted from Jews and gypsies at the Vatican. It is alleged that he also provided the Fascists with assistance in fleeing to South America. The Vatican has denied the charges but refuses to open related files .
Filed in Library at S10.
...
 147. "Vatican drawn into scandal over Nazi-era gold". CNN World News(July 22, 1997).
Note: Vatican sources have denied that the Vatican served as a repository of Nazi gold after WWII. A newly declassified document, dated October 21, 1946, and declassified on December 31, 1996, states that the Vatican held 200 million Swiss francs for Croatian fascists and notes rumors that it may still have be at the Vatican or have been sent to Spain and Argentina through a Vatican "pipeline".
Filed in the library at C5.
Online: http://cnn.com/WORLD/9707/22/nazi.gold/index.html

Group of Thirty - the men at the helm of world banking:

http://www.group30.org/members.shtml

The Group of Thirty, established in 1978, is a private, nonprofit, international body composed of very senior representatives of the private and public sectors and academia. It aims to deepen understanding of international economic and financial issues, to explore the international repercussions of decisions taken in the public and private sectors, and to examine the choices available to market practitioners and policymakers.


(http://www.group30.org/images/biotn/dcavallo.jpg)
Domingo Cavallo
Chairman and CEO, DFC Associates, LLC; Former Minister of Economy, Argentina

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domingo_Cavallo
...

Cavallo was born in San Francisco, Córdoba Province to Florencia and Felipe Cavallo, Italian Argentine immigrants from the Piedmont Region
...
Between April and June 2002, Cavallo was jailed for alleged participation in illegal weapon sales during the Menem administration.
 
Cavallo was Robert Kennedy Visiting Professor in Latin American Studies at the Department of Economics of Harvard University in Fall 2003/Fall 2004. He has also continued to serve as a member of the influential Washington-based financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty.
 
As of January 2012, Cavallo is a Senior Fellow at the Jackson Institute for Global Affairs at Yale University as well as a visiting lecturer at Yale's Economics department


(http://www.group30.org/images/biotn/draghi.jpg)

Mario Draghi
President, European Central Bank; Former Governor, Banca d'Italia; Former Chairman, FSB

In November 2011, Mario Draghi assumed the role of President of the European Central Bank, the institution responsible for the management of the euro and monetary policy in the Eurozone of the European Union.

2002-2005 - Vice-chairman and managing director of Goldman Sachs International and a member of the firm-wide management committee
In April 2006 he was elected Chairman of the Financial Stability Forum, which became Financial Stability Board in the spring 2009.
...
Mr. Draghi a graduate of the University of Rome, received his Ph.D. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and subsequently served as professor of economics at the University of Florence from 1981 to 1991.
...
from 1984 to 1990, was an Executive Director of the World Bank.  

Currently, Mr. Draghi serves on the Board of Trustees of the Princeton Institute for Advanced Study and the Brookings Institution. He has been an IOP Fellow at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. He has also authored and edited several publications on macroeconomic and financial issues

http://www.mgr.org/Mario_Draghi.html
...

When the replacement of Antonio Fazio as Director of the Italian Bank was to be fulfilled  on 2005 (Note: the name Draghi in translated as Dragon):   

"The Goldman Sachs investment bank is the world's most powerful and commonly defined, along with Rothschild, Warburg, Barings and other, one of the factions close to the "Anglo-Jewish empires" and therefore outside the control of the "powerful economic -religious "which is the Opera (Opus Dei) to which the pious hand belonged to Antonio Fazio long defended, not surprisingly, by the ecclesiastical hierarchy (dominance today to Opus Dei, whose head is just Benedict XVI).
...
On 18th July Mario Draghi, the Jesuit trained governor of the Italian Central Bank ‘Bankitalia’, participated to a meeting of the Irish central bank in Dublin. There he putted his mouth and his tongue at the service of the Vatican Usurers Global Wide crusade (they call it: globalization) with which the Romanists want to enslave (they call it: to evangelize) every living being on earth provided with some quantum of conscience. Our diligent schoolboy arrived from the new restored Pontifical reign of Italy to carry out, with worry and diligency, the important exercises his black teachers gave him. So what said our Mario to the anxious spectator in the Roman Catholic Dublin Castle?




(http://www.group30.org/images/biotn/dudley.jpg)
William C. Dudley
President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York; Former Partner and Managing Director, Goldman Sachs


(http://www.group30.org/images/biotn/corrigan2.jpg)
E. Gerald Corrigan
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.; Former President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Pilgrim Society president Corrigan, E. Gerald (1985-1993)

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http://thirteenthmonkey.blogspot.com/2011/05/vatican-mario-draghi-ecb-connexions.html
...
"Certain actions by Vatican loyalists and German corporatists involved in the European and global banking community have recently consummated in establishing a regulatory power that will oversee all major corporate, financial and banking decisions around the globe. That institution is the Financial Stability Board (FSB), headed by Italian banking guru Mario Draghi.


Draghi, a committed Europhile and dedicated Roman Catholic with connections that run deep within the global banking and finance community, and having historic Vatican Bank and European Central Bank connections, has suddenly become the most powerful regulator of banking, finance and commerce in the world. His overnight elevation to international prominence came in the wake of the 20 most powerful economies in the world signing over their individual sovereign powers regulating their economies to the FSB at the 2009 G-20 conference in London. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alumni_of_Jesuit_educational_institutions
Peter Sutherland - Former DG of GATT, Former Attorney General of Ireland, Board Member at BP and Goldman Sachs (Gonzaga College, Dublin)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutherland

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Peter-Sutherland-2011.jpg/220px-Peter-Sutherland-2011.jpg)

Peter Denis Sutherland, KCMG, SC (born 25 April 1946) is an Irish international businessman and former Attorney General of Ireland, associated with the Fine Gael party (part of the European People's Party bloc). He is a barrister by profession, and is also Senior Counsel at the Irish Bar. He is also known for serving in a variety of business and political roles.
 
University College Dublin law school is to be named the Sutherland School of Law following the completion of its rebuild in 2012.[1] He is a chairman of Goldman Sachs International.
...
In 2010, “The Tablet” named him as one of Britain’s most influential Roman Catholics.
...
He is non-executive Chairman of Goldman Sachs International (a registered UK broker-dealer, a subsidiary of Goldman Sachs). Until June 2009 he was non-executive chairman of BP being replaced by Carl-Henric Svanberg formerly chief executive officer of Ericsson. Sutherland was a director of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group until he was asked to leave the board when it had to be taken over by the UK government to avoid bankruptcy. He also formerly served on the board of ABB.
 
He is on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group,[9] he is an Honorary Chairman of the Trilateral Commission (2010 -), he was Chairman of the Trilateral Commission (Europe) (2001–2010)[10] and was vice chairman of the European Round Table of Industrialists (2006–2009
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 24, 2013, 06:52:27 pm
 It's not the church you belong to, its who you realy are that defines your soul.
 People wiggle their religous banners as though all they need to say is their a good church going J.Cit.
 I'ts in my face now, the memories of foriegn lands and various forms of beleifs define the religion one is born to, raised with, generaly the nation, family and locale dictate the methodry and brand.
   Kita kinda said it, judge the person not the banner they wiggle.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 25, 2013, 09:34:16 pm
 MONEY $$$ gobs of it+controll. Powermongers have their eyes on the pie and allways will, infiltration of any profitable, high power industry, religion, Political involvment.
   Any guy who worked his way honestly to gain fortune, 3 cheers for em.
   But slobs who profit from the suffering of the Lil people, who use their positions to bleed the common man, to abuse their trust, their titles and postions sucking on the blood of the masses,...In short; I don't cotton to parsites with a front.
 As has been said, the poor will allways be with us, the elites will be sure to keep them that way, debt is poverty.
 Tid bit: While in Boston on Capitol hill a guy started a conversation with me, he was a senators aid.  Out of the blue he asked me what kind of pay I received, I thought it was in average, but he said to me, " That's your pay! your not living your surving that's not acceptable in this nation but the only way it will change is from the inside, (meaning the elected wonders) .
 Kinda-Indicating the people voices don't matter a twit.
I'm a cynic, admittedly, it was a natural inner metamorphas,I was once a  young firm beleiver in everything the OLE Gov handed out/ though that was long ago , after bearing witness to the elites games..I painfully stepped though the looking glass. 
   
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 26, 2013, 11:26:20 am
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/pope-francis-considers-closing-scandal-riven-bank/story-e6frg6so-1226604559066
Pope Francis considers closing scandal-riven bank
From: The Times
March 25, 201312:00AM

POPE Francis is to consider abolishing the Vatican Bank - which has been beset by a scandal over allegations of money-laundering - in a drive for greater transparency at the heart of the Catholic Church.

Archbishop Claudio Maria Celli, who has been tipped as a possible secretary of state, or "Vatican prime minister", said Francis would weigh up appeals made by two cardinals on the eve of his election for the bank - formally known as the Institute for Works of Religion (IOR) - to be scrapped.
...
The bank has been surrounded by controversy since the death of "God's banker" Roberto Calvi, the Italian financier found hanged under Blackfriars Bridge in London in 1982. Italian prosecutors are investigating allegations of money-laundering and a claim that one account was indirectly linked to the Sicilian mafia godfather Matteo Messina Denaro.
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Dudley speaks to Fordham U. :
(http://www.group30.org/images/biotn/dudley.jpg)  
(check out 8:30 where they joke about the gold at the NYFed:
Later in QandA he is ask about how low interest rates are hurting fixed income people, he doesn't care.
Also 37:30 QandA mentions Ken Lewis leaving Catholic owned BofA)

William C. Dudley Federal Reserve Bank: Fordham Law Lecture
http://vimeo.com/9525702

Monday October 5th, 2009
 Federal Reserve Bank
 William C. Dudley

 President Of The Federal Reserve Bank Of New York
Fordham Corporate Law Center Lecture
 James B.M. McNally Amphitheater

http://www.fordham.edu/mobile/news/2212.html
Founded in 1841, Fordham is the Jesuit University of New York, offering exceptional education distinguished by the Jesuit tradition to more than 15,100 students in its four undergraduate colleges and its six graduate and professional schools. It has residential campuses in the Bronx and Manhattan, a campus in West Harrison, N.Y., the Louis Calder Center Biological Field Station in Armonk, N.Y., and the London Centre at Heythrop College in the United Kingdom.
 10/11

http://law.fordham.edu/fordham-journal-of-corporate-financial-law/15644.htm
Lecture by William C. Dudley - President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
October 5, 2009 - 6:30 P.M.  

http://law.fordham.edu/corporate-law-center/11294.htm

William C. Dudley became the tenth President and Chief Executive Officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on January 27, 2009.  As President of the New York Fed, he also serves as the Vice Chairman and a permanent member of the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), the group responsible for formulating the nation’s monetary policy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-09/bis-names-fed-s-dudley-chair-of-global-financial-system-group.html
BIS Names Fed’s Dudley Chair of Global Financial System Group
 By Greg Quinn - Jan 9, 2012 7:51 AM PT

The Bank for International Settlements appointed U.S. Federal Reserve Bank of New York President William Dudley to lead a committee on the global financial system, replacing Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney.

The Basel, Switzerland-based BIS made the announcement on its website today, and the change is effective immediately.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on March 26, 2013, 11:31:56 am
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/pope-francis-considers-closing-scandal-riven-bank/story-e6frg6so-1226604559066

Pope Francis considers closing scandal-riven bank

From: The Times
March 25, 201312:00AM


POPE Francis is to consider abolishing the Vatican Bank - which has been beset by a scandal over allegations of money-laundering - in a drive for greater transparency at the heart of the Catholic Church.
...
The bank has been surrounded by controversy since the death of "God's banker" Roberto Calvi, the Italian financier found hanged under Blackfriars Bridge in London in 1982. Italian prosecutors are investigating allegations of money-laundering and a claim that one account was indirectly linked to the Sicilian mafia godfather Matteo Messina Denaro.
...

WoW

He do not know what happened to John Paul I ?
The pope that died after just 33 Days?
The pope that stuck his nose into the affairs of the Vatican Bank ?

(http://www.gangsonny.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Il-corpo-di-Roberto-Calvi.bmp)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 26, 2013, 11:43:48 am
This is what they're talking about:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9323288/Prosecutors-investigate-Vatican-Bank-mafia-link.html
Prosecutors investigate Vatican Bank mafia link
Anti Mafia prosecutors have asked the secretive Vatican Bank to disclose details of an account held by a priest in connection with a money laundering and fraud investigation, it emerged on Sunday.

By Nick Pisa in Rome
10:25PM BST 10 Jun 2012


Father Treppiedi, 36, was serving as a priest in Alcamo, near Trapani, said to be the richest parish on the Mafia's island stronghold of Sicily

The official request was made more than a month ago but so far the Vatican Bank, known as the Institute for Religious Works, has refused to disclose any records of the account held by father Ninni Treppiedi – who is currently suspended from serving as a priest.

Investigators want to know more about vast sums of money that are said to have passed through his account to establish if they were money laundering operations by on the run Mafia Godfather, Matteo Messina Denaro.

The reports emerged in the Italian media and came just two weeks after the head of the Vatican Bank, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, was sacked amid claims of power struggles and corruption within the Holy See which have been linked to the leaking of sensitive documents belonging to Pope Benedict XVI.

More in line with a Dan Brown thriller, it is not the first time that the Vatican Bank has been embroiled in claims of Mafia money laundering. Thirty years ago this month financier Roberto Calvi was found hanging under London's Blackfriars Bridge with cash and bricks stuffed into his pockets.

Initially City of London police recorded the death as suicide but Italian authorities believe it was murder after it emerged Calvi, known as God's Banker because of his links to the Vatican Bank, had been trying to launder millions of pounds of mob money via its accounts and through his own Banco Ambrosiano which had collapsed spectacularly.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: larsonstdoc on March 26, 2013, 11:52:52 am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  The Mafia, the Vatican, banks and money------ What could go wrong or be illegal? 

  Should be a good movie coming up.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 26, 2013, 12:00:16 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  The Mafia, the Vatican, banks and money------ What could go wrong or be illegal? 

  Should be a good movie coming up.

It really is just a side show to the billions in moneylaundering going on... but remember how we were wondering what the Bilderberg Meeting in Rome was all about:


Secret Bilderberg steering Commt. Meeting in Rome - 11/12/1012  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=238229.0)

If you happen to be in or around Rome tomorrow, you can catch a glimpse, or perhaps say ‘hi’ to your Bilderberger masters, as they plan our lives for 2013 and beyond
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 27, 2013, 06:27:52 am
Pope Francis said he will not move to the Papal apartments in the Apostolic Palace at the Vatican now that they have completed the renovation after the 8 years of Pope Benny living there.

Pope Francis said he will stay in his "temporary" housing at St Martha's House the same place he moved to when he was named Pope and after he had paid for his own hotel bill where he stayed during the conclave.

Pope said he wants to live a normal life.

Vatican says "until he is asked to move in by order".
There is no doubt they will force it on him sooner rather than later even if he does not like it.
The evil guys are still in command...


Article in Italian:

Francesco per il momento non si trasferisce nell'appartamento papale: «Vuole vivere normalmente»
Alessandro Speciale - ANdrea Tornielli
Città del Vaticano

L'appartamento papale al terzo piano del Palazzo Apostolico è pronto, dopo i rapidi lavori di manutenzione necessari per rimetterlo a nuovo dopo gli otto anni di pontificato di Benedetto XVI. Ma papa Francesco non ci si trasferirà, almeno per ora e per il prossimo futuro, come anticipato questa mattina dal quotidiano argentino La Nacion.

“Fino a nuovo ordine”, ha annunciato il portavoce vaticano, padre Federico Lombardi, il pontefice argentino rimarrà invece nella Domus Sancta Marthae, la residenza vaticana dove hanno alloggiato i cardinali durante il conclave e dove normalmente abitano qualche dozzina di preti e vescovi in servizio all'interno del Vaticano. Un'altra metà delle stanze è invece a disposizione dei vescovi e dei cardinali di passaggio a Roma per udienze e riunioni.

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/vaticano/dettaglio-articolo/articolo/bergoglio-papa-el-papa-pope-23582/

 :-X
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 27, 2013, 07:33:15 pm
 Hi Ship.
  I would truly like to see a decent man commanding that much power.
  My ideology is cynical, I'm guilty and admit it. Pope Francis is being publicly renowned for his humility and and recently his mention of shutting down the Vatican bank. It all sounds great, and sure I would be pleased to see any corporate religion get it right.
  I have been watching them come and go for a while, the good ones usually get a bullet, heart attack or an assisted suicide.
   I understand your feelings and would like to believe all of the MSM chatter, unfortunately ( for me) its a wait and see.
If he is on the level, that all of this publicity is not simply showmanship,a form of putting the church back on the front page and correcting their image, resurecting parishoners,  I hope he lives a long life.
 
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: White Rose Sophie on March 27, 2013, 08:49:15 pm
Hi Ship.
  I would truly like to see a decent man commanding that much power.
  My ideology is cynical, I'm guilty and admit it. Pope Francis is being publicly renowned for his humility and and recently his mention of shutting down the Vatican bank. It all sounds great, and sure I would be pleased to see any corporate religion get it right.
  I have been watching them come and go for a while, the good ones usually get a bullet, heart attack or an assisted suicide.
   I understand your feelings and would like to believe all of the MSM chatter, unfortunately ( for me) its a wait and see.
If he is on the level, that all of this publicity is not simply showmanship,a form of putting the church back on the front page and correcting their image, resurecting parishoners,  I hope he lives a long life.
 

Hey Chris, have you seen the latest TiME magazine cover?

Pope Francis......................."NEW WORLD POPE".'

A mere coincidence I'm sure.   ;D
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 28, 2013, 11:42:35 am
Check out: Digging for thruth, bottom line who do ya trust, the MSM, the Gov, the high powered churches, supercorporations, the Vatican, Pope Francis, Obmama, Bush, .. Not to slight Pope Franciins, beleive me I can't seem to get the bottom line, its just every time I want to get my hopes up a nasty suprise is on the horizon. Hope, hope and keep hoping, as of today our MSM, elected leaders are backing him to the hilt, our amazing news media hails this man, and my folks are in awe of this seeming incredible man.
  The thing is I can't for judge this guy, or give an honest oppionion, Ive dug aroud a lot but retrun to the same circle of confusui. All I can add is the past of the Vaticas action are a abmoinnation, if this man iis on a mission to eradicte crime within the churh, great, if its all smoke and mirros, I'm sure there will be many disapointed.  It's a wait and see.
  Corporate religion elites, bankers, goverments, politicians, have POWER, to deny that would be in err.
    I don't beleive I will be addressing this subject untill further evidence is become avaliable to us peons.|
The Vatican
New Pope Shows Eye for Symbolism
By Stephan FarisMarch 16, 201314 Comments   

Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/03/16/new-pope-shows-eye-for-symbolism/#ixzz2OquWrWCl
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 28, 2013, 11:59:20 am
This is stange in a way since Buffett financially is supposedly anti-catholic ... While Goldman of late has been a financial arm of the Vatican (NewYorkFed-Goldman Nexus)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-26/berkshire-to-get-goldman-stock-tied-to-warrants-from-2008-deal.html
Berkshire to Pay Nothing to Be Among Top Goldman Sachs Holders
 By Noah Buhayar & Christine Harper - Mar 26, 2013 1:38 PM PT

Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK/A) is poised to become one of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS)’s largest shareholders without paying anything after the companies agreed on a plan to settle warrants granted at the height of the 2008 financial crisis ...

http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/26/investing/buffett-goldman/index.html
Buffett on track to be top Goldman shareholder
 By Chris Isidore @CNNMoneyInvestMarch 26, 2013

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)

Warren Buffett is on his way to becoming one of Goldman Sachs' 10 largest shareholders.

It's the outcome of Buffett's $5 billion emergency cash infusion into Goldman at the height of the financial crisis in 2008, when Wall Street firms were frozen in panic after the bankruptcy of investment bank Lehman Brothers.

At the time, Buffett received preferred shares worth $5 billion that paid a dividend of $500 million annually. He also got warrants to buy 43 million shares of Goldman stock for $115 apiece by October of this year. If Buffett were to cash in at Goldman's current stock price of around $145, his stake would be worth $6.3 billion, a profit of $1.3 billion.

But Goldman and Buffett said Tuesday they had revise the options so that Berkshire will receive shares equal in value to that profit. At current stock prices, that would mean an additional 9 million shares. It would be enough to rank Buffett as Goldman's ninth largest shareholder, according to LionShares, a stock tracking service.
 
| - - - - -

http://www.catholicleague.org/why-warren-buffett-is-anti-catholic/
WHY WARREN BUFFETT IS ANTI-CATHOLIC

January 25, 2012 by admin  
Filed under Latest News Releases
2012 - January Releases, Thompson

...
What is not being discussed is the billionaire’s support for anti-Catholicism. First some background information.
 
Over several decades, Buffett has spent a fortune funding radical abortion organizations like NARAL and Planned Parenthood; he has lavishly given money to train a new generation of abortion physicians; he has spent millions to help RU-486 (the abortion-inducing drug) to win FDA approval; and he gave his pro-abortion, population-control friends at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation nearly $31 billion in 2006 for more of the same.

There’s nothing anti-Catholic about any of this, but when he intentionally seeks to subvert Catholicism by dishonestly funding pro-abortion organizations that have hijacked the Catholic name, that’s another story.
 
To be specific, Buffett has given hundreds of millions over the years to anti-Catholic front groups like Catholics for Choice (formerly Catholics for a Free Choice) and its sister organization in Latin America, Catholics for the Right to Decide.

In 2010, the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation alone gave $759,822 to the former, and almost $1.7 million to the latter. These letter-head organizations wouldn’t exist if they depended on donations from members—they don’t have any—they exist because of the likes of Warren Buffett.

[ there are other article / thread concerning this issue... ]

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/47553428.html
Warren Buffett Gives until it Hurts: Hurts Women, Hurts the Developing World and Kills Preborn Children

“Warren Buffett’s philanthropy aims at killing pre-born children not curing childhood disease, eliminating the poor not poverty, destroying the developing world not aiding in development,” states prominent Roman Catholic Priest.
 
Contact: Jason Jones, Media Director for Human Life International,  540-551-0217, [email protected]

FRONT ROYAL, Va, June 27 /Christian Newswire/ -- The Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer, President of Human Life International responds to Warren Buffett’s announcement to donate billions of dollars to the pro-abortion Gates Foundation.
 
“Warren Buffett’s money has gone to fund the deadly abortion causing drug RU- 486,  the production and distribution of portable suction abortion devices in the developing world, organizations that push abortion on developing countries, and among many other radical organizations Buffett’s foundation gave a grant to the Center for Reproductive Rights, an organization that fought bans on partial-birth abortion…
 
“Warren Buffett, who is not a Roman Catholic, has also donated money to the Anti-Catholic organization Catholics for a free Choice a group that seeks to undermine the Catholic Church’s teachings on the sanctity of human life.
 
“Warren Buffett’s philanthropy aims at killing pre-born children not curing childhood disease, eliminating the poor not poverty, and destroying the developing world not aiding development.
 
“The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have also given millions of dollars to organizations pushing abortion around the world.  The merger of Gates and Buffett may spell doom for the families of the developing world.
 
“Warren Buffett will be known as the Dr. Mengele of philanthropy unless he repents and ceases using tax deductible donations to promote a culture of death and desolation…,” concluded the Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer.
 
Founded in 1981, Human Life International is the world’s largest pro-life, pro-family organization that is dedicated to defending life, faith and the family, with branches and affiliates around the world.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on March 29, 2013, 04:28:04 am
Check out: Digging for thruth, bottom line who do ya trust, the MSM, the Gov, the high powered churches, supercorporations, the Vatican, Pope Francis, Obmama, Bush, .. Not to slight Pope Franciins, beleive me I can't seem to get the bottom line, its just every time I want to get my hopes up a nasty suprise is on the horizon. Hope, hope and keep hoping, as of today our MSM, elected leaders are backing him to the hilt, our amazing news media hails this man, and my folks are in awe of this seeming incredible man.
  The thing is I can't for judge this guy, or give an honest oppionion, Ive dug aroud a lot but retrun to the same circle of confusui. All I can add is the past of the Vaticas action are a abmoinnation, if this man iis on a mission to eradicte crime within the churh, great, if its all smoke and mirros, I'm sure there will be many disapointed.  It's a wait and see.
  Corporate religion elites, bankers, goverments, politicians, have POWER, to deny that would be in err.
    I don't beleive I will be addressing this subject untill further evidence is become avaliable to us peons.|
The Vatican
New Pope Shows Eye for Symbolism
By Stephan FarisMarch 16, 201314 Comments   

Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/03/16/new-pope-shows-eye-for-symbolism/#ixzz2OquWrWCl


I do not practice any religion. If I did I think I would be much closer to Hinduism rather than Christianity.

However... we have a different man here as a Pope.
Old Pope Benny is now living a life of luxury at the Castel Gandolfo Summer residence until he (maybe) moves to his new place in a monastery while this new Pope is sort of revolutionizing the job.

Pope Francis shuns grand apartment for two rooms


Pope Francis has decided to shun a grand papal apartment on the top floor of the Vatican's Apostolic Palace in favour of a modest two-room residence.
His spokesman said he was "trying out this type of simple living" in a communal building with other priests.
In doing so he has broken a tradition which is more than a century old.
...
The Pope will take his meals in the communal dining room together with other visiting clerics and permanent residents.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21949118

 ::)

Pope Francis washes prisoners' feet on Maundy Thursday


Pope Francis has washed the feet of prisoners in a youth detention centre near Rome as part of the Maundy Thursday service.
The Christian ritual takes place on the Thursday before Easter to commemorate Christ's Last Supper.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21963105


Pope Francis washes feet of young detainees in ritual


(video)

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis washed and kissed the feet of a dozen inmates at a juvenile detention center in a Holy Thursday ritual that he celebrated for years as archbishop and is continuing now that he is pope. Two of the 12 were young women, a remarkable choice given that the rite re-enacts Jesus' washing of the feet of his male disciples.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/28/pope-frances-washes-feet/2028595/

Beautiful towels!
I hope they've been left at the prison for the foot washed detainee's use.

 :D
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 30, 2013, 06:51:49 pm
 Pope Francis is determined to put this faith back on the map, I question everything as I do his kissing the feet of the prisoners for a photo op.
 It would take up a few pages to explain why I'm cynicall: suffice to say we all know the history of this church and other corp religions as well.
I truly like to think that a honorable guy is taking the throne in any corporate religion, it just doesn't get there for me.
 If he had condemed war crimes I would have stuck on my glasses and  turned up my hearing aid.
                                                 No offense meant to any faith..
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 31, 2013, 04:20:29 pm
Black Pope meets White Pope...

http://norprov.org/

(http://norprov.org/news/images/francis_nicolas.jpg)
Fr. General Nicolás Visits Pope Francis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Nicol%C3%A1s

Adolfo Nicolás Pachón, S.J., S.T.D. (born 29 April 1936) is a Spanish priest of the Roman Catholic Church. He is the thirtieth and current Superior General of the Society of Jesus, the largest male religious order in the Roman Catholic Church.
...
On the second ballot of the thirty-fifth General Congregation of the Society of Jesus, Nicolás was elected as the Order’s thirtieth[5] Superior General on 19 January 2008, succeeding the Dutch Fr. Peter Hans Kolvenbach.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 01, 2013, 02:33:23 pm
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F60813FA395813738DDDAE0894D0405B828DF1D3
JESUIT INVITES RICH MEN.; Would Have Rockefeller and Carnegie Join an Order. 1912

 The position of the Catholic Church toward Socialism and private property was expounded yesterday at the Catholic conference at Fordham University.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Geolibertarian on April 02, 2013, 02:20:21 pm
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F60813FA395813738DDDAE0894D0405B828DF1D3
JESUIT INVITES RICH MEN.; Would Have Rockefeller and Carnegie Join an Order. 1912

Since the above makes specific reference to "Pope Leo's encyclical," I can't resist mentioning again the "Open Letter to Pope Leo XIII" that this elicited from Henry George:

     http://schalkenbach.org/library/henry-george/THE-CONDITION-OF-LABOR.html (http://schalkenbach.org/library/henry-george/THE-CONDITION-OF-LABOR.html)

The bottom line is that one does not have to be a "socialist (http://books.google.com/books?id=D5QWAAAAYAAJ)" (or anything close to it) to be opposed to privilege (see this (http://savingcommunities.org/issues/), this (http://www.monetary.org/review-of-robert-de-fremerys-rights-vs-privileges/2010/12) and this (http://www.progress.org/archive/hgjr8a.htm)), and that one should therefore always be leery of anyone who attempts to shield privilege from public scrutiny by wrapping it in the flag of anti-socialism (http://geolib.com/sullivan.dan/commonrights.html#antimarxist).
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: shipgeek on April 02, 2013, 03:22:50 pm
Black Pope meets White Pope...

http://norprov.org/

(http://norprov.org/news/images/francis_nicolas.jpg)
Fr. General Nicolás Visits Pope Francis

Black Pope has more power than White Pope.

Francis will take his orders from Adolfo.

Adolfo...
hmmm....
that name is not without reminding me of some of the darkest times in our history...

 >:(

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 02, 2013, 03:28:47 pm
Black Pope has more power than White Pope.

Francis will take his orders from Adolfo.

Adolfo...  hmmm....
that name is not without reminding me of some of the darkest times in our history...

 >:(

Some interesting links:

http://georgetownvoice.com/2004/01/15/the-kennedys-jesuit/

http://www.johndear.org/articles/death.html
Remembering Richard McSorley, S.J.

http://www.thehoya.com/top-jesuit-regrets-kennedy-letters-release-1.1885352
Top Jesuit Regrets Kennedy Letters' Release
By Nicole Tingir
Published: Friday, December 5, 2003

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/IRA-almost-blew-up-Caroline-Kennedy-82545487.html
IRA almost blew up Caroline Kennedy (in 1975)

This speech was supposed to be about communism - but now I'm not so sure....

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/jfk.html
"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.

It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - John F. Kennedy's secret society speech on April 27, 1961
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on April 02, 2013, 03:42:05 pm
"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.

It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - John F. Kennedy's secret society speech on April 27, 1961

This was a man that made my hair stand on end when speaking, *with pride, not fear..
 Martin L. King and Robert K, caused the same reaction,***** human dignity and honor of the highest form.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 02, 2013, 04:59:06 pm
Paul Kengor. "Reagan’s Catholic Connections." Catholic Exchange (June 11, 2004). http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/catholic_stories/cs0080.html
Reagan’s Catholic Connections
PAUL KENGOR
Reagan's embrace of Catholics began at home, with his father, Jack Reagan. Jack was an apathetic Catholic who left the religious rearing of his two children to his wife, Nelle, a deeply Christian woman, and a Protestant.

Ironically, whereas Reagan was raised in a household marked by a distinct lack of Catholicism, later, as president, he was surrounded by serious Catholics with whom he tried to change the world. Specifically, Reagan's assault on atheistic Soviet communism was aided by a number of key Catholics, such as CIA Director William J. Casey, Speechwriter Tony Dolan, Secretary of State Al Haig, Ambassador Vernon Walters, and others.

Two men, in particular, were pivotal: Reagan's first two national security advisers, Richard V. Allen and William P. Clark.

Four years before Reagan's presidency began, he met with Richard V. Allen in Los Angeles. Allen never forgot what Reagan told him that January 1977 afternoon: "Dick, my idea of American policy toward the Soviet Union is simple, and some would say simplistic. It is this: We win and they lose. What do you think of that?" That was the plan.

Reagan's most crucial adviser was the man who would replace Allen: William P. Clark. "Judge Clark," as he is known, implemented the Reagan administration's core policy directives crucial to confronting the Soviet empire. Clark is so devout in his faith that he has built a beautiful chapel on his property in Paso Robles, California, which he has opened to the community. This dedicated Catholic was Reagan's closest spiritual partner. The two men frequently prayed together.
...
A year later, in June 1982, Reagan had an even more powerful encounter with Pope John Paul II at the Vatican. The Polish Pontiff rightly perceived in Reagan a Protestant who was friendly to Catholicism, and who counted many Catholics among his intimates. Of course, John Paul II was overjoyed when Reagan became the first president to extend diplomatic recognition to the Vatican — a move long resisted by previous presidents. Both men shared a hatred of communism.
...
The two talked alone in the Vatican Library. They discussed the assassination attempts against them the previous year — only six weeks apart. Reagan said to the Pope: "Look how the evil forces were put in our way and how Providence intervened." Carl Bernstein and Marco Politi, in their biography of the Pope, dramatically conclude: "For the Pope, Reagan had been … an instrument in the hands of God."
...
Again, how ironic that this man who was raised by an apathetic Catholic father would be surrounded by the most devout Catholics throughout his presidency — both inside and outside the White House. And it was those Catholics who were crucial to Reagan's life mission and enduring legacy: victory in the Cold War.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on April 03, 2013, 09:26:32 am
Hi T. Bumped+++ hammer=nail.
  That you mentioned CIA director Casey is ironic. This guy was a Mucken Loonatic, so far out there he didn't touch ground,
I pondered on his many clandestine ops and came to the beleif that he commited suicide rather than being called before the investigating committee.
  OK, I know they say illness,operations etc... but I would go so far as
saying he sacrificed his life voluntarily  rather than in any way exposing the NWO crew or was he just cautiously wacked out with the cover story. In any event he was so Mucken nuts he would have gone right along with a planed death.
  He and Kissinger were on the same road, not side by side , Casy was mentally deranged,  educated, genius level total mucken physchopath. Kissinger is a physcho shiitbag as well but a balless tub of scum, Casey was the NWO do or die equation.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 03, 2013, 10:32:20 am
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB104/index.htm
KISSINGER TO ARGENTINES ON DIRTY WAR: "THE QUICKER YOU SUCCEED THE BETTER"

Newly declassified documents show Secretary of State gave green light to junta, Contradict official line that Argentines "heard only what [they] wanted to hear." While military dictatorship committed massive human rights abuses in 1976, Kissinger advised "If you can finish before Congress gets back, the better."
...
Washington, D.C., 4 December 2003 - Newly declassified State Department documents obtained by the National Security Archive under the Freedom of Information Act show that in October 1976, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and high ranking U.S. officials gave their full support to the Argentine military junta and urged them to hurry up and finish the "dirty war" before the U.S. Congress cut military aid.

A post-junta truth commission found that the Argentine military had "disappeared" at least 10,000 Argentines in the so-called "dirty war" against "subversion" and "terrorists" between 1976 and 1983; human rights groups in Argentina put the number at closer to 30,000.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB133/

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"The Memorandum of Conversation explains why the Argentine generals believed they got a clear message from the Secretary that they had carte blanche for the dirty war," said Carlos Osorio, Director of the Southern Cone Documentation Project at the National Security Archive. "It appears that Secretary Kissinger gave the 'green light' to the Argentine military during the June 1976 meeting with Guzzetti in Santiago," he added.

The June10 Memorandum of Conversation was obtained by the National Security Archive's Southern Cone Documentation Project through a Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of State filed in August 2002 and appealed in February 2004. The document was misdated June 6, 1976. The meeting took place during the morning of June 10, 1976, when Secretary Kissinger met with several foreign dignitaries attending the OAS General Assembly in Santiago. That afternoon he traveled to Mexico City [See Secretary Kissinger's travels at the Department of State Historian's web page and the Secretary's calendar of events for that day].

In Santiago, Guzzetti told Secretary Kissinger of the difficulties the Argentine security forces faced in dealing with the refugees, mostly because of lack of information: "[refugees] do not want to register… We have no names. Only the refugee committees know something in detail…"

A day earlier, on June 9, 1976 clandestine Argentine security forces had ransacked the Catholic Commission for Refugees in Buenos Aires and stolen refugee records. The day after Guzzetti and Secretary Kissinger met, on June 11, twenty-four Chilean and Uruguayan refugees were kidnapped, held illegally for two days, and tortured by a combined Argentine-Chilean-Uruguayan squadron.

Guzzetti also described the intelligence coordination with neighboring dictatorships: "The terrorist problem is general to the entire Southern Cone. To combat it, we are encouraging joint efforts to integrate with our neighbors… All of them: Chile, Paraguay, Bolivia, Uruguay, Brazil." This collaboration was codenamed Operation Condor
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By the end of 1976, 10,000 Argentines had been disappeared or assassinated by the Argentine security forces; half a dozen American citizens had been kidnapped and tortured. On the international front, the cooperation between Argentine military and intelligence forces and other Southern Cone militaries left hundreds of Uruguayans, Chileans, Bolivians, Paraguayans, and Brazilians disappeared, tortured, and/or dead.

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1982/eirv09n21-19820601/eirv09n21-19820601_032-kissingers_boys_in_the_administr.pdf


Kissinger's boys in
the administration
by Robert Zubrin and Kathleen Klenetsky
British agent Henry Kissinger is still exerting substantial control over U.S. foreign policy through a network of proteges, who served under him at the National Security Council (NSC) or in the State Department, and who now occupy key positions in the Reagan administration. The following is a partial list of Kissinger's forces.

Alexander Haig. Secretary of State, was Kissinger's top aide in the Nixon NSC from 1969 to 1973. During that time he helped Kissinger wreck the Rogers Plan to bring permanent peace to the Middle East and assisted Kissinger in Middle East War, which kicked off the first oil hoax. In 1974, Haig, as White House Chief of Staff, was Kissinger's key ally in orchestrating the White House coup which forced Nixon out of office.
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Frank Carlucci, Deputy Secretary of Defense, was Kissinger's representative as U.S. Ambassador to Portugal from 1975 to 1977, at a time when NATO made repeated attempts to organize a military coup counterrevolution in that country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Colby
William Egan Colby (January 4, 1920 – April 27, 1996) spent a career in intelligence for the United States, culminating in holding the post of Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) from September 1973 to January 1976.
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Colby was for most of his life a staunch Roman Catholic.[1] He was often referred to as "the warrior-priest." He married Barbara Heinzen in 1945 and they had five children. The Catholic Church played a "central role" in the family's life, with Colby's two daughters receiving their first communion at St. Peter's Basilica.[2] In 1984, he divorced Barbara and married Democratic diplomat Sally Shelton-Colby.
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After the war, Colby graduated from Columbia Law School and then briefly practiced law in [ WIlld Bill] William Joseph Donovan's New York firm. Bored by the practice of law and inspired by his liberal beliefs, he moved to Washington to work for the National Labor Relations Board.
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'Operation Condor' trial begins in Buenos Aires - WALB.com, Albany ...
www.walb.com/story/21523707/www.walb.com

Mar 5, 2013 – Argentina has begun a long-awaited human rights trial focused on Operation Condor, the effort by South America's dictators in 1976 to work together to eliminate leftist ... Casey Anthony comes out of seclusion in Tampa, Fla.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_Central_Intelligence#George_H._W._Bush_1976.E2.80.931977
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William Colby 1973–1976
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Colby's time as DCI was also eventful on the world stage. Shortly after he assumed leadership, the Yom Kippur War broke out, an event that surprised not only the American intelligence agencies but also the Israelis. This intelligence surprise reportedly affected Colby's credibility with the Nixon Administration. Meanwhile, after many years of involvement, South Vietnam fell to Communist forces in April 1975, a particularly difficult blow for Colby, who had dedicated so much of his life and career to the American effort there. Events in the arms control field, Angola, the Middle East, and elsewhere also demanded attention.
 
George H. W. Bush 1976–1977

Bush's confirmation as the Director of Central Intelligence was opposed by many politicians and citizens who were still reeling from the Watergate scandal (when Bush was the head of the Republican National Committee, and a steadfast defender of Nixon[citation needed]) and the Church Committee investigations. Many arguments against Bush's initial confirmation were that he was too partisan for the office. The Washington Post, George Will, and Senator Frank Church were some notable figures opposed to Bush's nomination. After a pledge by Bush not to run for either President or Vice-President in 1976, opposition to his nomination died down.
 
Bush served as the DCI for 355 days, from January 30, 1976, to January 20, 1977. [7] The CIA had been rocked by a series of revelations, including disclosures based on investigations by the Senate's Church Committee, about the CIA's illegal and unauthorized activities, and Bush was credited with helping to restore the agency's morale.[8] On February 18, 1976, President Ford issued Executive Order 11905, which established policy guidelines and restrictions for individual intelligence agencies, and clarified intelligence authorities and responsibilities. Bush was given 90 days to implement the new order, which called for a major reorganization of the American Intelligence Community and firmly stated that intelligence activities could not be directed against American citizens.[9] In his capacity as DCI, Bush gave national security briefings to Jimmy Carter both as a presidential candidate and as President-elect, and discussed the possibility of remaining in that position in a Carter administration
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http://www.globalissues.org/news/2013/03/05/16007
Operation Condor on Trial in Argentina
by Marcela Valente (buenos aires)
Tuesday, March 05, 2013
Inter Press Service


BUENOS AIRES, Mar 05 (IPS) - The trial over a campaign of terror coordinated among the dictatorships of the Southern Cone of South America in the 1970s and 1980s began Tuesday in Buenos Aires with former dictator Jorge Rafael Videla as one of the main defendants, along with another 24 former military officers.
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The trial that began Tuesday, which could stretch on for up to two years, is for the kidnapping and forced disappearance of 106 people. The largest group of victims were Uruguayans (48), but there were also Argentines, Bolivians, Chileans, Paraguayans and one Peruvian.

The case was initiated in 1999, when the two amnesty laws that put a stop to the prosecution of members of the military for human rights abuses committed during Argentina's 1976-1983 dictatorship were still in force.

The lawsuit thus invoked forced disappearance as a crime against humanity that was not subject to amnesty.
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Further evidence is contained in declassified documents from the United States State Department, such as a 1976 memo from an FBI agent describing the coordinated actions of South America's military regimes, which could go "as far as murder."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/operation-condor-latin-america-the-30-years-dirty-war/5326022
“Operation Condor”. Latin America: The Thirty Years Dirty War
by Pierre Abramovici
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According to the CIA, which claims not to have heard of Condor until 1976 (8), three of the countries involved, namely Chile, Argentina and Uruguay, “extended cooperation on anti-subversion activities to the assassination of high-ranking terrorists living in exile in Europe”. Although it had been accepted for years that information was to be exchanged bilaterally, “a third, top-secret phase of Operation Condor apparently involved training special teams from member countries for joint operations that included the assassination of terrorists and terrorist sympathisers. When a terrorist or sympathiser from a member country was identified, a team would be sent to locate the target and keep him under surveillance. Then a hit squad would be despatched. The special teams were made up of people from one or several Condor states who were supplied with false identity papers issued by member countries.”
 
The CIA claims that the operation centre for phase three was in Buenos Aires, where a special team had been set up. Meanwhile, bilateral meetings between the countries of the Southern Cone continued as usual under the aegis of the CAA, and their effects were just as devastating (9).
 
Many Condor meetings took place in 1976. They were often attended by the same people who took part in CAA bilateral meetings. According to the CIA, “although cooperation between the various intelligence and security services had existed for some time, it was not formalised until late May 1976 at a Condor meeting in Santiago de Chile, where the main topic was long-term cooperation between the services of the participating countries going well beyond the exchange of information. The Condor member countries identified themselves by code numbers: Condor One, Condor Two, etc.
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Flying like a condor
 
But the scale of repression made the existence of Condor increasingly difficult to hide. The CIA itself became a source of embarrassing rumours as staff exchanged quips about colleagues sent abroad because they could “fly like a condor”. Finally, Contreras’ own policy of targeted assassinations put paid to the operation. On 21 September 1976 he had Chile’s former foreign minister, Orlando Letelier, assassinated in Washington. It was a major blunder. The US investigators were determined to identify those responsible. The FBI’s chief officer in Buenos Aires filed a special report on phase three of Operation Condor, and extracts found their way into the American press. A Congressional committee of inquiry was quickly set up. The Chileans responded by disbanding Dina and replacing it by another organisation. Contreras was ditched.
 
The newly elected US president Jimmy Carter had made human rights part of his platform. He was not prepared to countenance Condor-type operations. At the very least, he did not want the US involved in them. The prevailing view is that the Carter administration pressured the Latin American countries to close Condor down.
 
Representatives of all the Condor member states met in Buenos Aires on 13-15 December 1976 to discuss future plans in the light of the new situation.

The Argentinians, who had outstripped all the other dictatorships in the ferocity of their methods since the putsch of 23 March, took matters in hand. With help from Paraguay, they sought a more secure and discreet channel for anti-subversion operations in the form of the Latin American Anti-Communist Federation (CAL), an offshoot of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL).

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_Club
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^ Scott, The Road to 9/11 (2008), p. 63. "These offshore events in 1976 were mirrored by a similar arrangement for off-loading former CIA agents and operations in Latin America. This was the Confederación Anticomunista Latinoamaericana (CAL) and its death-squad collaboration Operation Condor. Operation Condor was a coalition of intelligence agencies of CAL countries, chiefly Argentina, Brazil, Chile, and Paraguay.

The CAL was funded through the World Anti-Communist League by the governments of South Korea and Taiwan and—once again—the petrodollars of Saudi Arabia."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

Operation Condor (Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor, Portuguese: Operação Condor) was a campaign of political repression and terror involving assassination and intelligence operations officially implemented in 1975 by the right-wing dictatorships of the Southern Cone of South America. The program aimed to eradicate communist or Soviet influence and ideas and to control active or potential opposition movements against the participating governments.[1]
 
Due to its clandestine nature, the precise number of deaths directly attributable to Operation Condor is highly disputed. Some estimates are that at least 60,000 deaths can be attributed to Condor,[2][unreliable source?] and possibly more.[3][4][5] Condor's key members were the governments in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia and Brazil. The United States provided technical support and supplied military aid to the participants until at least 1978, with Ecuador and Peru joining later in more peripheral roles.[
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Cold War context
 
Operation Condor, which took place in the context of the Cold War, had the tacit approval of the United States. In 1968, U.S. General Robert W. Porter stated that "in order to facilitate the coordinated employment of internal security forces within and among Latin American countries, we are...endeavoring to foster inter-service and regional cooperation by assisting in the organization of integrated command and control centers; the establishment of common operating procedures; and the conduct of joint and combined training exercises." Condor was one of the fruits of this effort.
 
The targets were officially armed groups (such as the MIR, the Montoneros or the ERP, the Tupamaros, etc.) but in fact included all kinds of political opponents, including their families and others, as reported by the Valech Commission.[citation needed] The Argentine "Dirty War", for example, which resulted in approximately 30,000 victims according to most estimates, targeted many trade-unionists, relatives of activists, etc.[citation needed]
 
From 1976 onwards, the Chilean DINA and its Argentine counterpart, SIDE, were the operation's front-line troops. The infamous "death flights," theorized in Argentina by Luis María Mendía — and also used during the Algerian War (1954–1962) by French forces — were widely used, in order to make the corpses, and therefore evidence, disappear.[citation needed] There were also many cases of child abduction

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The Argentine Dirty War was carried out during and around Operation Condor. The Argentine SIDE cooperated with the Chilean DINA in numerous cases of desaparecidos. Chilean General Carlos Prats, former Uruguayan MPs Zelmar Michelini and Héctor Gutiérrez Ruiz, as well as the ex-president of Bolivia, Juan José Torres, were assassinated in the Argentine capital.
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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 03, 2013, 11:24:20 am
new CIA Director new Pope ...

Two Fired For Looking At Obama's Passport File - John Brennan tobe CIA Director

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan
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Brennan, the son of Irish immigrants from Roscommon (Ireland), was raised in North Bergen, New Jersey.[10] He attended the Immaculate Heart of Mary Elementary School, and graduated from Saint Joseph of the Palisades High School in West New York, New Jersey before enrolling at Fordham University in New York City
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He received a B.A. in political science from Fordham in 1977

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/02/04/john-brennan-obama-s-cia-chief-nominee-could-restrain-the-agency.html
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Brennan’s views were shaped by his Roman Catholic upbringing and occasional forays into just war theory. He, too, has a legal bent of mind, perhaps the product of his Jesuit education and the many years he spent as a CIA analyst.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 03, 2013, 11:40:46 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9806088/Leon-Panetta-meets-Pope-Benedict-XVI.html

Leon Panetta meets Pope Benedict XVI
US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta met Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican on Wednesday.
2:12PM GMT 16 Jan 2013
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02453/panetta_2453304b.jpg)

Panetta kissed the Pope's hand, and the Pope said, "Thank you for helping to protect the world."

The Pentagon boss responded, "Pray for me."

Panetta, a staunch Catholic, is in Rome as part of a weeklong swing across Europe, meeting with defence ministers to talk about ongoing conflicts in Afghanistan and Mali.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Panetta
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In January 2009, President-elect Obama nominated Panetta for the post of CIA Director.[1][2] Panetta was confirmed by the full Senate in February 2009. As director of the CIA, Panetta oversaw the U.S. military operation that led to Osama bin Laden's death.
 
On April 28, 2011, Obama announced the nomination of Panetta as Defense Secretary when Robert Gates retired.

In June the Senate confirmed Panetta unanimously as Secretary of Defense. He assumed the office on July 1.[3] David Petraeus took over as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency on September 6 [ But Petreaus  was racked with scandal to be replaced by Brennan hmmm ]

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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 03, 2013, 12:49:05 pm
Not one non-catholic christian on Supreme Court:

http://www.factmonster.com/us/supreme-court/supreme-court-members.html
Current U.S. Supreme Court Members
The following table lists the current members of the United States Supreme Court, including the Chief Justice and eight Associate Justices.

Antonin Scalia, DC            Roman Catholic
Anthony M. Kennedy, Calif Roman Catholic
Clarence Thomas, DC        Roman Catholic
John G. Roberts, DC          Roman Catholic
Samuel A. Alito, Jr., N.J.    Roman Catholic
Sonia Sotomayor N.Y.        Roman Catholic


Ruth Bader Ginsburg, DC  Jewish
Stephen G. Breyer, Mass   Jewish
Elena Kagan N.Y.              Jewish

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
(http://religions.pewforum.org/img/major_religious_traditions.gif)

http://maps.unomaha.edu/Peterson/geog1000/MapLinks/ReligionMaps.html
(http://maps.unomaha.edu/Peterson/geog1000/MapLinks/ReligionMaps_files/world-religions-map.gif)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 03, 2013, 01:43:30 pm
Catholic Sec of State John Kerry Plus Yale Skull and Bones! ....
Oh and VP Biden is Catholic ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry

Kerry was raised as a Roman Catholic by his Catholic father and Episcopalian mother  ( Rosemary Isabel (Forbes) Kerry (1913–2002), a World War II nurse and member of the wealthy Forbes family)    . As a child, Kerry served as an altar boy
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Kerry spent his summers at the Forbes family estate in Brittany, and there, he enjoyed a more opulent lifestyle than he had previously known in Massachusetts
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A Roman Catholic, Kerry was said to carry a rosary, a prayer book, and a St. Christopher medal (the patron saint of travelers) when he campaigned. However, while Kerry is personally against abortion, he supports a woman's legal right to have one, which puts him at odds with the Catholic Church
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he enrolled at St. Paul's School in Concord, New Hampshire, and graduated from there in 1962. Kerry learned skills in public speaking and began developing an interest in politics. In his free time, he enjoyed ice hockey and lacrosse, which he played on teams captained by classmate Robert S. Mueller III, the current director of the FBI.

[

St. Paul's is a member of the Eight Schools Association, established in 1973 comprising Choate Rosemary Hall (known as Choate), Northfield Mount Hermon, Deerfield Academy, Hotchkiss School, Lawrenceville School, Phillips Academy (known as Andover), and Phillips Exeter Academy (known as Exeter).[2] It is also a member of the Independent School League, the oldest independent school athletic association in the United States
]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Heinz_Kerry

Maria Teresa Thierstein Simões-Ferreira Heinz (born October 5, 1938), known as Teresa Heinz, is an American businesswoman and philanthropist, the widow of former U.S. Senator H. John Heinz III (R-Pennsylvania), and the wife of current U.S. Secretary of State and former U.S. Senator John Kerry (D-Massachusetts).

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Religion Roman Catholic
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Heinz is the life estate beneficiary or outright beneficiary of her husband's trusts, making her either extremely wealthy in her own name or powerful as a trustee of Heinz family wealth.[citation needed] Kerry is wealthy in his own right, though not to the same degree, since he became a trust fund beneficiary of his mother's and Forbes family trusts. Kerry and Heinz signed a prenuptial agreement and have kept their premarital assets separate.
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http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/09/27/040927fa_fact
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Teresa Heinz Kerry makes an unlikely rebel. She is a sixty-five-year-old Catholic billionaire, born into the colonial society of Mozambique, whose tastes, pieties, and hobbies—cultivating roses and collecting still-lifes—are those of a traditional, if not Victorian, lady. But when she calls herself “a child of Africa” one can hear an echo of Rousseau, and it reverberates in the impulsive salvos (playful, caustic, or profane) for which she has been ridiculed as “bonkers” and “a loose cannon


http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/13/catholic-joe-biden-to-lead-u-s-delegation-to-greet-pope-francis/
Catholic” Joe Biden to Lead U.S. Delegation to Greet Pope Francis
by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 3/13/13

Biden is the first Catholic to serve as vice president and he will represent the United States at the installation Mass for Pope Francis on March 19, Vatican spokesman the Rev. Tom Rosica confirmed today.

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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: DAVIDE MTL on April 03, 2013, 07:37:20 pm
Catholic Sec of State John Kerry Plus Yale Skull and Bones! ....
Oh and VP Biden is Catholic ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry

Kerry was raised as a Roman Catholic by his Catholic father and Episcopalian mother  ( Rosemary Isabel (Forbes) Kerry (1913–2002), a World War II nurse and member of the wealthy Forbes family)    . As a child, Kerry served as an altar boy
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Kerry spent his summers at the Forbes family estate in Brittany, and there, he enjoyed a more opulent lifestyle than he had previously known in Massachusetts
...
A Roman Catholic, Kerry was said to carry a rosary, a prayer book, and a St. Christopher medal (the patron saint of travelers) when he campaigned. However, while Kerry is personally against abortion, he supports a woman's legal right to have one, which puts him at odds with the Catholic Church
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he enrolled at St. Paul's School in Concord, New Hampshire, and graduated from there in 1962. Kerry learned skills in public speaking and began developing an interest in politics. In his free time, he enjoyed ice hockey and lacrosse, which he played on teams captained by classmate Robert S. Mueller III, the current director of the FBI.

[

St. Paul's is a member of the Eight Schools Association, established in 1973 comprising Choate Rosemary Hall (known as Choate), Northfield Mount Hermon, Deerfield Academy, Hotchkiss School, Lawrenceville School, Phillips Academy (known as Andover), and Phillips Exeter Academy (known as Exeter).[2] It is also a member of the Independent School League, the oldest independent school athletic association in the United States
]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Heinz_Kerry

Maria Teresa Thierstein Simões-Ferreira Heinz (born October 5, 1938), known as Teresa Heinz, is an American businesswoman and philanthropist, the widow of former U.S. Senator H. John Heinz III (R-Pennsylvania), and the wife of current U.S. Secretary of State and former U.S. Senator John Kerry (D-Massachusetts).

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Religion Roman Catholic
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Heinz is the life estate beneficiary or outright beneficiary of her husband's trusts, making her either extremely wealthy in her own name or powerful as a trustee of Heinz family wealth.[citation needed] Kerry is wealthy in his own right, though not to the same degree, since he became a trust fund beneficiary of his mother's and Forbes family trusts. Kerry and Heinz signed a prenuptial agreement and have kept their premarital assets separate.
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http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/09/27/040927fa_fact
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Teresa Heinz Kerry makes an unlikely rebel. She is a sixty-five-year-old Catholic billionaire, born into the colonial society of Mozambique, whose tastes, pieties, and hobbies—cultivating roses and collecting still-lifes—are those of a traditional, if not Victorian, lady. But when she calls herself “a child of Africa” one can hear an echo of Rousseau, and it reverberates in the impulsive salvos (playful, caustic, or profane) for which she has been ridiculed as “bonkers” and “a loose cannon


http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/13/catholic-joe-biden-to-lead-u-s-delegation-to-greet-pope-francis/
Catholic” Joe Biden to Lead U.S. Delegation to Greet Pope Francis
by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 3/13/13

Biden is the first Catholic to serve as vice president and he will represent the United States at the installation Mass for Pope Francis on March 19, Vatican spokesman the Rev. Tom Rosica confirmed today.

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Michael Matt, The Remnant, April 15, 2004, p. 5: “Take Senator John F. Kerry, for example, the first Catholic nominated for the presidency by either major party since 1960.  Kerry, whose paternal grandparents were Jewish, by the way, is doing a remarkably good Kennedy impersonation these days: ‘We have a separation of Church and state in this country,’ Kerry recently told Time magazine.  ‘As John Kennedy said very clearly, I will be a President who happens to be Catholic, not a Catholic president.’  On that, at least, we can agree with the gentleman from Massachusetts!  In fact, we would take it one step further by noting that presidential candidate Kerry isn’t Catholic at all.

     “Oh, yes, the former altar boy says he’s Catholic; he allegedly complains when his staff doesn’t leave adequate time on his schedule for Sunday Mass; his official web site announces that ‘John Kerry was raised in the Catholic faith and continues to be an active member of the Catholic church.’  But he’s not Catholic, and neither is his wife – another anti-Catholic who claims to be a practicing one.  John Kerry’s description of himself and his wife is simply untrue: “[I’m a] believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic.’  Sounds nice.  Trouble is, John Kerry is an apostate.”

 John Kerry rejects Catholic teaching condemning abortion.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on April 03, 2013, 08:42:33 pm
 Pols,corp- relgions,Sects $$, supercorps Bankers, Gov agencys a-z,  NATO, UN and more laws that the LIL people must abide by and pay for.
What interconects these % of the NWO. power over the people,$$ mentaly,spiritualy,physically and equality.
 New worlld leadership, global control. USA , are we controlled, take a guess, go down menory lane for about a 1/2 centrury.
  You tell me! OK, this is the final kick in the groin, but they have been sucking on our nations base for many moons.
 Any suprises?
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 03, 2013, 08:56:34 pm
Kerry is interesting cause he's rich $194 Million and his wife is richer ~1Billion and trustee to the Brookings Inst.
.. I don't think they care that he's a bad C as long as the money and influence keeps coming. He'll do as he's told (by his wife?)  


http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/10/billionaires08_Teresa-F-Heinz-Kerry_UZ1H.html

Fortune: inherited
Source: inheritance
Net Worth: $1.0 bil

Education: University of Witwatersrand, Bachelor of Arts / Science
University of Geneva Interpreters School, Master of Arts

Born and raised in Mozambique, attended South Africa's University of Witwatersrand, then an interpreters school in Geneva. Married 1966 to heir to ketchup factory H.J. Heinz Co., U.S. Senator Henry John Heinz, who died in plane crash 1991.

Married Senator John Kerry in 1995. Chairs Howard Heinz Endowment, Heinz Family Foundation: environmental causes, education, women's rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Heinz
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Philanthropy
 
Teresa Heinz is the chair of The Heinz Endowments and the Heinz Family Philanthropies, disbursing money to various social and environmental causes. She assists the City of Pittsburgh, where the Heinz family has many financial and family connections. In recognition of her philanthropy and activism,

Heinz has received 12 honorary doctoral degrees:
 Bank Street College of Education
 Beloit College
 Carlow University - Roman Catholic
 Carnegie Mellon University
 Clark University
 Drexel University
 Kenyon College
 Medical College of Pennsylvania
 Pine Manor College
 University of Massachusetts Boston
 University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
 Washington and Jefferson College
 University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg


http://www.nndb.com/people/602/000044470/

Religion: Roman Catholic
    Brookings Institution Trustee
    Friends of Dick Lugar
    Friends of Hillary
    Jefferson Awards Board of Selectors
    Obama for America
    Obama Victory Fund 2012
    United Negro College Fund
    Women's Campaign Forum
    Naturalized US Citizen 1971


http://www.nndb.com/org/693/000044561/
Brookings Institution
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: larsonstdoc on April 03, 2013, 09:03:21 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Boycott Heinz

(http://ethicsoup.typepad.com/.a/6a00e554e81be388340120a69b52ec970c-pi)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 04, 2013, 02:50:22 pm
See, The NWO is just one big team - What would the jesuits say?


http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/15/pro-abortion-catholic-nancy-pelosi-to-attend-pope-francis-inaugural/
Pro-Abortion “Catholic” Nancy Pelosi to Attend Pope Francis Inaugural
by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 3/15/13

One of the least Catholic and most pro-abortion members of Congress, Democratic Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, has been added to the official U.S. delegation to attend the installation of newly-elected Pope Francis.
 
Pelosi will join pro-abortion Vice President Joe Biden to attend the Inauguration Mass celebrating the Pontificate of His Holiness Pope Francis, which will take place on March 19.
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In 2011, Pelosi was upset that the nation’s Catholic bishops protested the Obama administration decision forcing insurance companies to cover birth control, contraception and drugs that could cause abortions. They are upset certain religious groups may not be exempt from providing the insurance, which would violate their moral and religious views.
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Pelosi has been repeatedly at odds with the Catholic Church, in which she claims membership, over the issue of abortion.
 
She once called on a Catholic saint to help her and her pro-abortion colleague pass a Senate health care bill that contains massive abortion funding. Not only did Pelosi upset pro-life Catholics in so doing, but she got the date wrong concerning the saint she mentioned.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/02/pelosi-the-pope.html
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Pelosi & the pope: Talk about an odd couple
February 17, 2009

The Vatican is said to be fuming that President Obama, in his first days in office, overturned a ban on using U.S. dollars to fund abortions overseas. The Vatican also frowns on U.S. approval for the first human trials using embryonic stem cells. And of course Pope Benedict XVI has said that abortion-rights Catholics like Pelosi should not receive Communion.

As for Pelosi, she might want to ask the pope about his recent decision to rehabilitate a bishop who denied the existence of the Holocaust, or his appointment of a bishop in Austria who had blamed the sins of New Orleans residents for the devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina.

All of which is likely to fuel a continuing debate in Catholic circles, as the New York Times put it, about whether this pope's focus on doctrine could alienate mainstream Catholics like Pelosi.

The two have met before. In fact, when she received the pope on a visit to the U.S. last year, Pelosi gave him the respectful greeting of a hand kiss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Condoleezza_Rice_cropped.jpg/220px-Condoleezza_Rice_cropped.jpg)

In 1967, the family moved to Denver, Colorado. She attended St. Mary's Academy, an all-girls Catholic high school in Cherry Hills Village, Colorado, graduating at the age of 16 in 1971
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She attended an international politics course taught by Josef Korbel, which sparked her interest in the Soviet Union and international relations. Rice later described Korbel (who was the father of Madeleine Albright, a future U.S. Secretary of State), as a central figure in her life
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Rice was a Democrat until 1982, when she changed her political affiliation to Republican
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on April 04, 2013, 09:01:54 pm
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB104/index.htm
KISSINGER TO ARGENTINES ON DIRTY WAR: "THE QUICKER YOU SUCCEED THE BETTER"


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Washington, D.C., 4 December 2003 - Newly declassified State Department documents obtained by the National Security Archive under the Freedom of Information Act show that in October 1976, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and high ranking U.S. officials gave their full support to the Argentine military junta and urged them to hurry up and finish the "dirty war" before the U.S. Congress cut military aid.


in Buenos Aires and stolen refugee records[/b][/size]. The day after Guzzetti and Secretary Kissinger met, on June 11, twenty-four Chilean and Uruguayan refugees were kidnapped, held illegally for two days, and tortured by a combined Argentine-Chilean-Uruguayan squadron.


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Kissinger's boys in
the administration
by Robert Zubrin and Kathleen Klenetsky
British agent Henry Kissinger is still exerting substantial control over U.S. foreign policy through a network of proteges, who served under him at the National Security Council (NSC) or in the State Department, and who now occupy key positions in the Reagan administration. The following is a partial list of Kissinger's forces.

Alexander Haig. Secretary of State, was Kissinger's top aide in the Nixon NSC from 1969 to 1973. During that time he helped Kissinger wreck the Rogers Plan to bring permanent peace to the Middle East and assisted Kissinger in Middle East War, which kicked off the first oil hoax. In 1974, Haig, as White House Chief of Staff, was Kissinger's key ally in orchestrating the White House coup which forced Nixon out of office.
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Frank Carlucci, Deputy Secretary of Defense, was Kissinger's representative as U.S. Ambassador to Portugal from 1975 to 1977, at a time when NATO made repeated attempts to organize a military coup counterrevolution in that country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Colby
William Egan Colby (January 4, 1920 – April 27, 1996) spent a career in intelligence for the United States, culminating in holding the post of Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) from September 1973 to January 1976.
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Colby was for most of his life a staunch Roman Catholic.[1] He was often referred to as "the warrior-priest." He married Barbara Heinzen in 1945 and they had five children. The Catholic Church played a "central role" in the family's life, with Colby's two daughters receiving their first communion at St. Peter's Basilica.[2] In 1984, he divorced Barbara and married Democratic diplomat Sally Shelton-Colby.
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After the war, Colby graduated from Columbia Law School and then briefly practiced law in [ WIlld Bill] William Joseph Donovan's New York firm. Bored by the practice of law and inspired by his liberal beliefs, he moved to Washington to work for the National Labor Relations Board.
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'Operation Condor' trial begins in Buenos Aires - WALB.com, Albany ...
www.walb.com/story/21523707/www.walb.com

Mar 5, 2013 – Argentina has begun a long-awaited human rights trial focused on Operation Condor, the effort by South America's dictators in 1976 to work together to eliminate leftist ... Casey Anthony comes out of seclusion in Tampa, Fla.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_Central_Intelligence#George_H._W._Bush_1976.E2.80.931977
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William Colby 1973–1976
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Colby's time as DCI was also eventful on the world stage. Shortly after he assumed leadership, the Yom Kippur War broke out, an event that surprised not only the American intelligence agencies but also the Israelis. This intelligence surprise reportedly affected Colby's credibility with the Nixon Administration. Meanwhile, after many years of involvement, South Vietnam fell to Communist forces in April 1975, a particularly difficult blow for Colby, who had dedicated so much of his life and career to the American effort there. Events in the arms control field, Angola, the Middle East, and elsewhere also demanded attention.
Henry K cleans his nose and its his snots, orders eradication/ assassinations with the wave of a hand and a voice that rattles my very bones,
HK asside, Bill Colby imploded the CIA and subsidiaries, his recruitmen ts are legend, his methods technically sadistic. He was a high tech machine in a skinsuit, a very intimidating creature, brilliant, sadistic, extension of the elites and provider of forces within until this day we can not entirely make a judgement as to the degree of influence this man created within the system.
 This guy could sit across from you and ask question without one body movement or telltale emotion whatsoever as if he was a robot in a skinsuit. His eyes pentrated with so much as a blink during any discussion, his mind was focused on one goal only, establishing a circle of inner power and foreign contrators that would make you head spin. Phoenix program was basically headhunters, with get out jail free cards, exempt for military justice. Westmorlenad and Casey were on the same channel, Casey was more intelligent than Westy knew it and Casey reach into the dark side was impenetrable..Call it what you like scuttlebutt, or unidentified brass in total submission.
 Hope I'm' not inf the map, but Casey rings bells that are deafening. Admittedly he had masters, but he was a fine tuned tool of the needs.  Intelligence is an attribute that can used to develop humanity or bring it down on a national level. Genius level insiders are hand picked for the Pyschiopthic traits. Aren't they mostly of this mentaility, Inhuman!
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 05, 2013, 11:39:31 am
It's interesting how Piers Morgan is supposedly a Catholic, no jesuit training, ... Couldn't find a picture of him with the pope dang ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Morgan

Piers Stefan O'Meara

Piers Morgan was born on 30 March 1965, in Guildford, Surrey, England, to Eamon Vincent O'Meara, a dentist, of Dorking, Surrey,[5] and Gabrielle Georgina Sybille (née Oliver).[6]

His father died when he was one year old and his mother subsequently remarried.

He has three older siblings.[7] Named Piers Stefan Pughe-Morgan by his stepfather, Morgan attended the independent school Cumnor House[8] from the ages of seven to thirteen, and then Chailey School, a comprehensive secondary school in Chailey, near Lewes, East Sussex, followed by Lewes Priory School for sixth form.[9] Morgan studied Journalism at Harlow College. After a brief career at Lloyds of London, he joined the Surrey and South London Newspaper Group in 1985,[10] where he worked as a reporter on the South London News, and the Streatham and Tooting News. Morgan was recruited (he says headhunted by editor Kelvin MacKenzie) to join The Sun newspaper, to work on the Bizarre column.
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[ Here's Piers with interviewing a supposed Athiest: ]  

http://www.christianpost.com/news/atheist-penn-jillette-defends-popes-position-and-catholic-church-to-piers-morgan-91536/
Atheist Penn Jillette Defends Pope's Position and Catholic Church to Piers Morgan
By Dayna Lovelady, CP Contributor
March 8, 2013|6:58 pm
 
Atheist and magician Penn Jillette defended the pope's position and Catholicism in a fiery exchange with CNN's Piers Morgan, who is Catholic, in a recent interview.
 
Jillette, author of Every Day is an Atheist Holiday and God, No!, said to Morgan in a Feb. 28 "Piers Morgan Tonight" show, "Well, I think I may be somebody who believes in the Pope's position more than most Catholics. I really take people at their word. And it seems like all of the cynicism and all of the – who are we going to get in, modernizing – there's not supposed to be modernizing. It's supposed to be [the] word of God."
 
The famed atheist magician then asked Morgan, "You call yourself a Catholic. Don't you follow everything?"
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Morgan replied, "No, that's the point. I have become increasingly like many young Catholics, I think, really disgruntled by the failure of successive popes and the Vatican to move at all with the times when society is changing so fast."
 
Seeming to better understand the claims of those of the Catholic faith than Morgan does, Jillette stated, "This is great, what side you're picking here. I would say on my side that if you have someone who is a conduit to God and is speaking God's word, even if you can't understand exactly what God's plan is, even if you do see suffering, that you consider unacceptable, or any suffering is unacceptable, that still doesn't mean you get to vote on what God actually believes."
 
Morgan listed some of the Roman Catholic dogmas that are not spelled out in Scripture, such as Catholic priests not being able to marry, divorced Catholics not remarrying in church and that female priests can't be ordained. He stated that none of these things actually came from Jesus Christ's mouth, causing Jillette to respond by saying that Morgan sounded like a Protestant.

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Here's Piers interviewing catholic Santorum:

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/13/rick-santorum-the-biggest-problem-with-the-catholic-church-is-its-run-by-human-beings/
Rick Santorum: "The biggest problem with the Catholic Church is it's run by human beings"
March 13th, 2013
10:14 PM ET

As Catholics around the world celebrate a newly elected pope, this evening "Piers Morgan Live" invited Rick Santorum to share his reactions and insights to an event watched worldwide.

"I was teary-eyed when I saw," said the former Republic presidential candidate, in describing the first appearance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio now known as Pope Francis. "It's an incredibly moving moment, and to see the humility of this man – obviously, a man who is very much of the people, exactly as some of your commentators were saying – exactly what the Church needs right now, is someone who focuses on holiness, focuses on the mission of the Church which is to serve God, and serve His people here on Earth, and it seems like [that's] what Pope Francis has in mind."
 
Asked by Piers Morgan about the contrast of a new pope who's described by some as being progressive, as compared to an institution that's notoriously conservative, the man who achieved the historic "Santorum Sweep" detailed what he sees as some of the major concerns facing the famed religious establishment:
 
"What we're talking about here is the operation of the Church. The biggest problem with the Catholic Church is it's run by human beings," noted Santorum. "It's fallible in the sense that people in those organizations make mistakes and they do things the wrong way."
 
Watch the clip, and listen to the interview, as the former presidential candidate and devout Catholic describes the new pope as being less of a "progressive conservative," and more of a "Christ-like leader."
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[ Here Piers Morgan Interviews Catholic Ted Nugent: ]  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V3f6gQUqW7c

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/ted-nugent-piers-morgan-gun-control_n_2621920.html
Ted Nugent Blasts Piers Morgan, Defends Gun Owners: 'Would You Leave Us The Hell Alone?' (VIDEO)

The Huffington Post  |  By Cavan Sieczkowski Posted: 02/05/2013 10:31 am EST

Ted Nugent got fired up while discussing gun control and gun ownership with Piers Morgan and pointedly asked the CNN host: "Would you leave us the hell alone?"

Morgan headed to Texas, where he met with the Detroit rocker and unabashed gun advocate for a sit-down at a local gun range. What materialized was an explosive interview in which Nugent accused Morgan of having an obsession with guns.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent
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Raised Catholic, Nugent has mentioned his ties with the Christian faith many times during interviews, and has stated that he regularly attends church. He attended St. Viator High School in Arlington Heights, IL and William Fremd High School in Palatine, Il.
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After settling down on a ranch in Michigan in 1973, Nugent signed a record deal with Frank Zappa's DiscReet Records label and recorded Call of the Wild. The


[ Did anyone know that Frank zappa came from a Catholic family? ]  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa
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Frank Vincent Zappa[1] was born in Baltimore, Maryland, on December 21, 1940. His mother, Rose Marie (née Colimore), was of Italian and French ancestry; his father, Francis Vincent Zappa, was an immigrant from Partinico, Sicily.[2] Zappa, the eldest of four children, was raised in an Italian-American household where Italian was spoken often by his grandparents.[3][4] The family moved often because his father, a chemist and mathematician, worked in the defense industry. After a time in Florida in the 1940s, the family returned to Maryland, where Zappa's father worked at the Edgewood Arsenal chemical warfare facility of the Aberdeen Proving Ground. Due to their home's proximity to the arsenal, which stored mustard gas, gas masks were kept in the home.[5] This had a profound effect on Zappa, and references to germs, germ warfare and the defense industry occur throughout his work ...

http://www.nndb.com/people/737/000024665/

Frank Zappa
Religion: Atheist
Frank Vincent Zappa, born in Baltimore to a Catholic family


Frank zappa / Catholic girls  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSZ77SkAbI8)

[ Oh and then there's Catholic Michael Moore interviewed with Piers Morgan: ]  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moore
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Moore was brought up Catholic,[12] and has Irish ancestry.[13] He attended parochial St. John's Elementary School for primary school and later attended St. Paul's Seminary in Saginaw, Michigan, for a year.[8][14][15][16][17] He then attended Davison High School, where he was active in both drama and debate,[18] graduating in 1972. As a member of the Boy Scouts of America, he achieved the rank of Eagle Scout.[8] At the age of 18, he was elected to the Davison school board.[19]
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Moore is a Catholic,[3][21] but has said he disagrees with church teaching on subjects such as abortion[22] and same-sex marriage

(http://images.politico.com/global/2012/12/28/121228_moore_morgan_ap_328.jpg)


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1303/19/pmt.01.html
PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT
Interview with Michael Moore
Aired March 19, 2013 - 21:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Tonight an hour with Michael Moore. My exclusive interview with the director of "Bowling for Columbine" and "Fahrenheit 9/11" talking about the 10th anniversary of shock and awe.

Are the Catholic Church would change under Pope Francis?

And of course guns in America.

MICHAEL MOORE, DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER: Guns don't kill people. Americans kill people. We're -- we do this more than anybody else.

MORGAN: The right to bear arms.

MOORE: Now if the founding fathers could have looked into a crystal ball and seen AK-47s and Glock semi-automatic pistols I think they would say, you know, that's not really what we mean when we say bear arms.

MORGAN: Why in the wake of a tragedy at Newtown Michael Moore has changed his mind about this.

MOORE: I am not going to come on another damn TV show either after the next shooting, Piers.

MORGAN: This is PIERS MORGAN LIVE. And I'm here with my special guest, Michael Moore. We've got a lot to talk about tonight. He's a passionate advocate of gun control. I know he has strong feelings about Harry Reid's decision on the Senate today to drop a proposed ban on semi-automatic weapons in the wake of the appalling slaughter in Newtown. Are the senators' actions indefensible?
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http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/moore-leave-piers-alone-85559.html
Michael Moore: ‘Leave Piers alone!’
KATIE GLUECK | 12/28/12 9:06 AM EST

Filmmaker and activist Michael Moore is coming to the defense of Piers Morgan, the CNN host who is the subject of a petition that demands the White House deport him.
 
“Leave Piers alone! So sad that the host on American TV to speak out the loudest against this madness is not one of us, but a Brit,” Moore tweeted on Thursday

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[ Oh and then there's Jeb Bush (Now Catholic and Piers Morgan : ]  


http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/RSaapgavilh/Pope+Benedict+XVI+Holds+First+Mass+Saint+Peter/AlYUj-MQFoO/Jeb+Bush
(http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Pope+Benedict+XVI+Holds+First+Mass+Saint+Peter+AlYUj-MQFoOl.jpg)

Pope Benedict XVI (R) greets U.S. President George W. Bush's brother and Governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, in St Peter's basilica after celebrating mass April 24, 2005 in Vatican City. Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims attended the mass led by the 265th Pope of the Roman Catholic Church.

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/28/tonight-jeb-bush/
August 28th, 2012

06:44 PM ET
Tonight: Jeb Bush


Coming up this evening, Piers Morgan welcomes Jeb Bush to the program. As the former governor of Florida, one of the key battleground states of the election, Bush shares his unique perspective on the election and weighs in on the Romney campaign.

"He’s been reluctant to share what’s in his heart and who he is," says the son and brother of two former presidents about Mitt Romney's public persona. Bush notes Romney has been the subject of many television attack ads that turn Romney "into the devil incarnate."

"The guy's [Romney] had the barked scraped off of him by an opponent who wants to change the conversation as quick as possible away from his economic policy," Bush says about Barack Obama's campaign tactics.

Tune in to "Piers Morgan Tonight" live at midnight as Morgan continues his coverage of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla.

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/12/jeb-bush-on-education-and-the-link-between-economic-prosperity-and-the-ability-to-acquire-knowledge/
October 12th, 2011
Gov. Jeb Bush on education and "the link between economic prosperity and the ability to acquire knowledge"

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush was a guest on "Piers Morgan Tonight" for the hour this evening, and talked about the importance of education and his new new initiatives. "I was blessed to have a mother and father that recognized the value of education," Bush told Piers Morgan. "As governor, I saw the link between economic prosperity and the ability to acquire knowledge."
 
Said Bush: "There's a direct link between percentage of young people that are educated and how we live our lives."
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http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=34357
Jeb Bush indicated he doesn’t think his older brother, former President George W. Bush, will convert to Catholicism

NEW YORK, NY (The Deacons Bench) - After gobbling up tons of bandwidth over the Kennedys, let's now turn to the other side of the aisle, and another political dynasty, okay?
 
Rumblings about George W. Bush converting to Catholicism have been heard since before he left office.
 
And the other day, his brother had something to say about that:

"At Communion and Liberation’s annual Rimini Meeting last week, Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida, spoke about why he decided to become a Catholic and of his opposition to those elected officials who think they should keep their faith “in a safety deposit box.”
 
"Bush also indicated he doesn’t think it’s likely his older brother, former President George W. Bush, will convert to Catholicism.
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A former Episcopalian who was received into the Church in 1995, Bush said, “In the United States many people think that to keep your faith, you need to put it into a safety deposit box if you’re an elected official until you finish your service as a public servant, and then you can go and get it back. I never thought that was appropriate.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush

Religious affiliation
 
In 1995, Bush converted from Anglicanism to Catholicism.[16] For many years, he and his wife have attended the Church of the Epiphany, a Catholic parish located in Miami. Bush is a Third Degree Knight of Columbus according to an August 3, 2004, speech his brother, George W. Bush, made at the 122nd Knights of Columbus Convention in Dallas, Texas.

The following is an excerpt from the speech:
 "I'm proud to say that my family has contributed to your ranks. A few years ago, Governor Jeb became a Knight. And he—yes—and he recently took his Third Degree. I'll see him this weekend. His son is getting married. I'll pass on the word, aim for the Fourth."[17]
In 2004, Jeb Bush (while still governor) was inducted into the Fourth Degree by Gary L. McLain at a ceremony held Nov. 1. Bush, a member of Father Hugon Council 3521 in Tallahassee, joined Father Hugon Assembly.[citation needed]

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2004/08/images/20040803-11_dallas2-515h.html
(http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2004/08/images/20040803-11_dallas2-515h.jpg)
President George W. Bush greets members of the Knights of Columbus after remarks to the 122nd Annual Knights of Columbus Convention in Dallas, Texas, Tuesday, Aug. 3, 2004.

(http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/bush-knights1.jpg)

[ Oh and then there's Newt Gingrich (coverted Catholic) and Piers Morgan ] :  

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/13/live-tonight-rick-santorum-and-newt-gingrich-on-the-new-pope/

March 13th, 2013
Live Tonight: Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich on the new pope
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Additionally, a longtime rival of Santorum's from days debating during the GOP primaries, tonight Newt Gingrich visits "Piers Morgan Live," most certainly bringing along his trademark brand of candor and humor.

During Gingrich's most-recent interview with Morgan, the former House Speaker left the host remembering how much he loves arguing with a man he calls one of his favorite guests.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_bN4sRPeoM
Newt Gingrich vs Piers Morgan on Gun Control Debate

http://www.christianpost.com/news/catholic-politicians-you-thought-were-evangelical-69951/
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Newt Gingrich
 
Republican Presidential Candidate and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich was baptized at a Southern Baptist church in New Orleans while he was attending graduate school. His conversion to Catholicism in 2009 came after he began attending mass in 2000 with his third wife, Callista.
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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: lee51 on April 05, 2013, 12:59:07 pm
Please read this to the very end! I recommend reading at the link below as it shows copies of letters, etc.

My synopsis of article below: Pope Francis was a part of military takeover of Argentina in which approximately 30,000 people were murdered by pushing them out of military planes into a river or the Atlantic Ocean. Pope Francis has connections with David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger.  This article below states they believe Francis to be an undercover in US politics in Washington. Long article but worth reading.



http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675

“Washington’s Pope”? Who is Pope Francis I? Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio and Argentina’s “Dirty War”

Who is Jorge Mario Bergoglio?
 
In 1973, he had been appointed “Provincial” of Argentina for the Society of Jesus.
 
In this capacity, Bergoglio was the highest ranking Jesuit in Argentina during the military dictatorship led by General Jorge Videla (1976-1983).
 
He later became bishop and archbishop of Buenos Aires. Pope John Paul II elevated him to the title of cardinal in 2001
 
When the military junta relinquished power in 1983, the duly elected president Raúl Alfonsín set up a Truth Commission pertaining to the crimes underlying the “Dirty War” (La Guerra Sucia).
 
The military junta had been supported covertly by Washington.
 
US. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger played a behind the scenes role in the 1976 military coup.

Kissinger’s top deputy on Latin America, William Rogers, told him two days after the coup that “we’ve got to expect a fair amount of repression, probably a good deal of blood, in Argentina before too long.” … (National Security Archive, March 23, 2006)

Operation Condor”
 
Ironically, a major trial opened up in Buenos Aires on March 5, 2013 a week prior to Cardinal Bergoglio’s investiture as Pontiff. The ongoing trial in Buenos Aires is: “to consider the totality of crimes carried out under Operation Condor, a coordinated campaign by various US-backed Latin American dictatorships in the 1970s and 1980s to hunt down, torture and murder tens of thousands of opponents of those regimes.”

The military junta led by General Jorge Videla (left) was responsible for countless assassinations, including priests and nuns who opposed military rule following the CIA sponsored March 24, 1976 coup which overthrew the government of Isabel Peron:
 
”Videla was among the generals convicted of human rights crimes, including “disappearances”, torture, murders and kidnappings. In 1985, Videla was sentenced to life imprisonment at the military prison of Magdalena.”

One of the key appointments of the military junta (on the instructions of Wall Street) was the Minister of Economy, Jose Alfredo Martinez de Hoz, a member of Argentina’s business establishment and a close friend of David Rockefeller.
 
The neoliberal macro-economic policy package adopted under Martinez de Hoz was a “carbon copy” of that imposed in October 1973 in Chile by the Pinochet dictatorship under advice from the  “Chicago Boys”, following the September 11, 1973 coup d’Etat and the assassination of president Salvador Allende.
 
Wages were immediately frozen by decree. Real purchasing power collapsed by more than 30 percent in the 3 months following the March 24, 1976 military coup. (Author’s estimates, Cordoba, Argentina, July 1976). The Argentinean population was impoverished.

Under the helm of Minister of Economy Jose Alfredo Martinez de Hoz, central bank monetary policy was largely determined by Wall Street and the IMF. The currency market was manipulated. The Peso was deliberately overvalued leading to an insurmountable external debt. The entire national economy was precipitated into bankruptcy.

Wall Street and the Catholic Church Hierarchy
 
Wall Street was firmly behind the military Junta which waged “The Dirty War” on its behalf. In turn, the Catholic Church hierarchy played a central role in sustaining the legitimacy of the military Junta.
 
The Order of Jesus –which represented the Conservative yet most influential faction within the Catholic Church, closely associated with Argentina’s economic elites– was firmly behind the military Junta, against so-called “Leftists” in the Peronista movement.
 
“The Dirty War”: Allegations directed Against Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Condemning the military dictatorship (including its human rights violations) was a taboo within the Catholic Church.  While the upper echelons of the Church were supportive of the military Junta, the grassroots of the Church was firmly opposed to the imposition of military rule.
 
In 2005, human rights lawyer Myriam Bregman filed a criminal suit against Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, accusing him of conspiring with the military junta in the 1976 kidnapping of two Jesuit priests.
 
Several years later, the survivors of the “Dirty War” openly accused Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio of complicity in the kidnapping of  priests Francisco Jalics y Orlando Yorio as well six members of their parish,  (El Mundo, 8 November 2010)

Bergoglio, who at the time was “Provincial” for the Society of Jesus, had ordered the two “Leftist” Jesuit priests and opponents of military rule  “to leave their pastoral work” (i.e. they were fired) following divisions within the Society of Jesus regarding the role of the Catholic Church and its relations to the military Junta.
 
While the two priests Francisco Jalics y Orlando Yorio, kidnapped by the death squads in May 1976 were released five months later. after having been tortured, six other people associated with their parish kidnapped as part of the same operation were “disappeared” (desaparecidos). These included four teachers associated with the parish and two of their husbands.
 
Upon his release, Priest Orlando Yorio “accused Bergoglio of effectively handing them over [including six other people] to the death squads … Jalics refused to discuss the complaint after moving into seclusion in a German monastery.” (Associated Press, March 13, 2013, emphasis added),
 
“During the first trial of leaders of the military junta in 1985, Yorio declared, “I am sure that he himself gave over the list with our names to the Navy.” The two were taken to the notorious Navy School of Mechanics (ESMA) torture center and held for over five months before being drugged and dumped in a town outside the city. (See Bill van Auken, “The Dirty War” Pope, World Socialist Website and Global Research, March 14, 2013

Among those “disappeared” by the death squads were Mónica Candelaria Mignone and María Marta Vázquez Ocampo, respectively daughter of the founder of of the CELS (Centro de Estudios Legales y Sociales) Emilio Mignone and daughter of the president of Madres de Plaza de Mayo, Martha Ocampo de Vázquez. (El Periodista Online, March 2013).

María Marta Vásquez, her husband César Lugones (see picture right) and Mónica Candelaria Mignone allegedly “handed over to the death squads” by Jesuit “Provincial” Jorge Mario Bergoglio are among the thousands of “desaparecidos” (disappeared) of Argentina’s “Dirty War”, which was supported covertly by Washington under “Operation Condor”. (See memorialmagro.com.ar)
 
In the course of the trial initiated in 2005:
 

“Bergoglio [Pope Francis I] twice invoked his right under Argentine law to refuse to appear in open court, and when he eventually did testify in 2010, his answers were evasive”: “At least two cases directly involved Bergoglio. One examined the torture of two of his Jesuit priests — Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics — who were kidnapped in 1976 from the slums where they advocated liberation theology. Yorio accused Bergoglio of effectively handing them over to the death squads… by declining to tell the regime that he endorsed their work. Jalics refused to discuss it after moving into seclusion in a German monastery.” (Los Angeles Times, April 1, 2005)
 
The Secret Memorandum
 
[This section was added on March 19, 2013]

The military government acknowledged in a Secret Memo (see below) that Father Bergoglio had accused the two priests of having established contacts with the guerilleros, and for having disobeyed the orders of the Church hierarchy (Conflictos de obedecencia). It also states that the Jesuit order had demanded the dissolution of  their group and that they had refused to abide by Bergoglio’s instructions.
 
The document acknowledges that the “arrest” of the two priests, who were taken to the torture and detention center at the Naval School of Mechanics, ESMA, was based on information transmitted by Father Bergoglio to the military authorities. (signed by Mr. Orcoyen) (document shown at link above)
 
While a former member of  the priests group had joined the insurgency, there was no evidence of the priests having contacts with the guerrilla movement.


The entire Catholic hierarchy was behind the US sponsored military dictatorship.  It is worth recalling that on March 23, 1976, on the eve of the military coup:
 

“Videla and other plotters received the blessing of the Archbishop of Paraná, Adolfo Tortolo, who also served as vicar of the armed forces. The day of the takeover itself, the military leaders had a lengthy meeting with the leaders of the bishop’s conference. As he emerged from that meeting, Archbishop Tortolo stated that although “the church has its own specific mission . . . there are circumstances in which it cannot refrain from participating even when it is a matter of problems related to the specific order of the state.” He urged Argentinians to “cooperate in a positive way” with the new government.” (The Humanist.org, January 2011, emphasis added)
 
In an interview conducted with El Sur, General Jorge Videla, who is now serving a life sentence for crimes against humanity confirmed that:
 

“He kept the country’s Catholic hierarchy informed about his regime’s policy of “disappearing” political opponents, and that Catholic leaders offered advice on how to “manage” the policy.
 
Jorge Videla said he had “many conversations” with Argentina’s primate, Cardinal Raúl Francisco Primatesta, about his regime’s dirty war against left-wing activists. He said there were also conversations with other leading bishops from Argentina’s episcopal conference as well as with the country’s papal nuncio at the time, Pio Laghi.
 
“They advised us about the manner in which to deal with the situation,” said Videla” (Tom Henningan, Former Argentinian dictator says he told Catholic Church of disappeared,  Irish Times, July 24, 2012, emphasis added)
 
It is worth noting that according to a 1976 statement by Archbishop Adolfo Tortolo, the military would always consult with a member of the Catholic hierarchy in the case of the “arrest” of a grassroots member of  the clergy. This statement was made specifically in relation to the two kidnapped Jesuit priests, whose pastoral activities were under the authority of Society of Jesus “provincial” Jorge Mario Bergoglio. (El Periodista Online, March 2013).

In endorsing the military Junta, the Catholic hierarchy was complicit in torture and mass killings, an estimated “22,000 dead and disappeared, from 1976 to  1978  … Thousands of additional victims were killed between 1978 and 1983 when the military was forced from power.” (National Security Archive, March 23, 2006).
 
The Role of the Vatican

The Vatican under Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II played a central  role in supporting the Argentinian military Junta.
 
Pio Laghi, the Vatican’s apostolic nuncio to Argentina admitted “turning a blind eye” to the torture and massacres.
 
Laghi had personal ties to members of the ruling military junta including  General Jorge Videla and Admiral Emilio Eduardo Massera.
 
(See image left. Vatican’s Nuncio Pio Laghi and General Jorge Videla)
 
Admiral Emilio Massera in close liaison with his US handlers, was the mastermind of “La Guerra Sucia” (The Dirty War). Under the auspices of the military regime, he established:
 
“an interrogation and torture centre in the Naval School of Mechanics, ESMA [close to Buenos Aires], … It was a sophisticated, multi-purpose establishment, vital in the military plan to assassinate an estimated 30,000 “enemies of the state”. …  Many thousands of ESMA’s inmates, including, for instance, two French nuns, were routinely tortured mercilessly before being killed or dropped from aircraft into the River Plata.

Massera, the most forceful member of the triumvirate, did his best to maintain his links with Washington. He assisted in the development of Plan Cóndor, a collaborative scheme to co-ordinate the terrorism being practised by South American military régimes. (Hugh O’Shaughnessy, Admiral Emilio Massera: Naval officer who took part in the 1976 coup in Argentina and was later jailed for his part in the junta’s crimes, The Independent, November 10, 2010, emphasis added)

Reports confirm that the Vatican’s representative Pio Laghi and Admiral Emilio Massera were friends.

The Catholic Church: Chile versus Argentina
 
It is worth noting that  in the wake of the military coup in Chile on September 11,1973, the Cardinal of Santiago de Chile, Raul Silva Henriquez openly condemned the military junta led by General Augusto Pinochet. In marked contrast to Argentina, this stance of the Catholic hierarchy in Chile was instrumental in curbing the tide of political assassinations and human rights violations directed against supporters of Salvador Allende  and opponents of the military regime.
 

The man behind the interfaith Comité Pro-Paz was Cardinal Raúl Silva Henríquez. Shortly after the coup, Silva, … stepped into the role of “upstander,”a term the author and activist Samantha Power coined to distinguish people who stand up to injustice—often at great personal risk—from “bystanders.”
 
… Soon after the coup, Silva and other church leaders published a declaration condemning and expressing sorrow for the bloodshed. This was a fundamental turning point for many members of the Chilean clergy… The cardinal visited the National Stadium and, shocked by the scale of the government crackdown, instructed his aides to begin collecting information from the thousands flocking to the church for refuge.
 
Silva’s actions led to an open conflict with Pinochet, who did not hesitate to threaten the church and the Comité  Pro-Paz. (Taking a Stand Against Pinochet: The Catholic Church and the Disappeared pdf)

Had the Catholic hierarchy in Argentina  and Jorge Mario Bergoglio taken a similar stance to that of Cardinal Raul Silva Henriquez, thousands of lives would have been saved.
 
Jorge Mario Bergoglio was not, in the words of Samantha Powers, a “bystander”. He was complicit in extensive crimes against humanity.
 
Neither is Pope Francis “a Man of the People” committed to “helping the poor” in the footsteps of Saint Francis of Assisi, as portrayed in chorus by the Western media mantra. Quite the opposite: his endeavors under the military Junta, consistently targeted progressive members of the Catholic clergy as well as committed human rights activists involved in grassroots anti-poverty programs.
 
In supporting Argentina’s “Dirty War”, Jorge Mario Bergoglio has blatantly violated the very tenets of Christian morality which cherish  the value of human life.  Author’s message to Pope Francis: “Thou shalt not kill”
 
“Operation Condor” and the Catholic Church
 
The election of Cardinal Bergoglio by the Vatican conclave to serve as Pope Francis I will have immediate repercussions regarding the ongoing “Operation Condor” Trial in Buenos Aires.
 
The Church was involved in supporting the military Junta.  This is something which will emerge in the course of the trial proceedings.  No doubt, there will be attempts to obfuscate the role of the Catholic hierarchy and the newly appointed Pope Francis I,  who served as head of Argentina’s Jesuit order during the military dictatorship.
 
Jorge Mario Bergoglio:  “Washington’s Pope in the Vatican”?  

The election of Pope Francis I has broad geopolitical implications for the entire Latin American  region.
 
In the 1970s, Jorge Mario Bergoglio was supportive of a US sponsored military dictatorship.
 
The Catholic hierarchy in Argentina supported the military government. The Junta’s program of torture, assassinations and ‘disappearances” of thousands of political opponents was coordinated and supported by Washington under the CIA’s “Operation Condor”.
 
Wall Street’s interests were sustained through Jose Alfredo Martinez de Hoz’ office at the Ministry of Economy.
 
The Catholic Church in Latin America is politically influential. It also has a grip on public opinion. This is known and understood by the architects of US foreign policy as well as US intelligence.
 
In Latin America, where a number of governments are now challenging US hegemony, one would expect –given Bergoglio’s track record–  that the new Pontiff Francis I as leader of the Catholic Church, will play de facto, a discrete “undercover” political role on behalf of Washington.

With Jorge Bergoglio, Pope Francis I  in the Vatican –who faithfully served US interests in the heyday of General Jorge Videla and Admiral Emilio Massera–  the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in Latin America can once again be effectively manipulated to undermine “progressive” (Leftist) governments, not only in Argentina (in relation to the government of Cristina Kirschner) but throughout the entire region, including Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia.
 
The instatement of  “a pro-US pope” occurred a week following the death of  president Hugo Chavez.
 
“Regime Change” at the Vatican
 

The US State Department routinely pressures members of the United Security Council with a view to influencing the vote pertaining to Security Council resolutions.
 
US covert operations and propaganda campaigns are routinely applied with a view to influencing national elections in different countries around the World.
 
Similarly, the CIA has a longstanding covert relationship with the Vatican.
 
Did the US government attempt to influence the outcome of the election of the new pontiff?
 
Firmly committed to serving US foreign policy interests in Latin America, Jorge Mario Bergoglio was Washington’s preferred candidate.
 
Were undercover pressures discretely exerted by Washington, within the Catholic Church, directly or indirectly, on the 115 cardinals who are members of the Vatican conclave?



 
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 05, 2013, 02:28:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaWlfsqWEoM
The Bilderberg Group was founded by Jesuit Joseph Retinger and SMOM Prince Bernard
The Europian Union was designed by Jesuit A. de Gasperi SJ
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcide_De_Gasperi )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Retinger
...
Retinger initiated the Bilderberg conferences (1954) and was their secretary until his death (lung cancer) in 1960

http://ecumenistan.wikia.com/wiki/Joseph_H._Retinger
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Retinger, as a Catholic, was viewed by many as an agent of the Vatican, acting in liaison between the Pope and the Father-General of the Jesuit order.
 
One of Retinger's renowned achievements in European politics was the founding of the European Movement, leading to the establishment of the Council of Europe on 5th May 1949. With its headquarters in Strasbourg, the Council Executive Committee provided Retinger his first major platform for his expansive ideology. From his earlier days at the Sorbonne, Retinger believed in greater European unity, both in military and economic terms. It was also at the same time when his interest in the guidance of the Jesuit order manifested itself. He spent a great deal of his time fulfilling these ambitions. He suggested to Premier Georges Clemenceau a plan to unite Eastern Europe-involving the merging of Austria, Hungary and Poland as a tripartite monarchy under the guidance of the Jesuit order. Clemenceau, doubtful of the Vatican-inspired plan, rejected Retinger's proposal outright. This plan labelled Retinger, thereafter, as a Vatican agent.
...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/invisible_power_house.html


http://www.reformation.org/president-lyndon-johnson.html
...
After the assassination of President Kennedy, and before even his body had grown cold in death, Johnson was sworn in as President aboard Air Force One.

Instead of a Bible, Johnson took the oath of office on a Roman Catholic missal—a book containing all the prayers and responses necessary for celebrating the mass throughout the year.

(http://www.reformation.org/johnson-swearing-in2.jpg)
Johnson swearing in with his hand on a Roman missal.

Lyndon Johnson was sworn in as President by Judge Sarah T. Hughes just hours after the assassination. Judge Hughes brought a small Bible for the swearing in ceremony, but it was substituted for a Roman Missal (Mass book) that was found on the plane.

The woman judge was trembling; she did not use the Bible she had brought with her, but a small Catholic Missal, found in the plane near Kennedy's bed.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on April 05, 2013, 03:10:48 pm
 The elites are inherently in power, the final plateau,,,,the ONES.
The newbees are made men, guys who worked their way up the ladder much like the Mafia.
The blooding of hands being a requirement.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Outer Haven on April 06, 2013, 12:27:58 pm
Francis confirmed to be a Freemason:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZLKMxmV0SOQ
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on May 18, 2013, 07:30:20 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/05/18/merkel-and-pope-talk-about-a--strong-europe/2308757/
[Lutheran] Merkel and Pope talk about a 'strong' Europe
May 18, 2013

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/WiresImages/2013/05/18/fe590a2aaa653210320f6a706700fe23-1305181315_4_3_rx404_c534x401.jpg)
Pope and Merkel trade secret gang signs at the Vatican
private audience at the Vatican, Saturday, May 18, 2013.

Pope Francis met with German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Saturday during a quick trip to Rome. The two spoke privately for 45 minutes.

VATICAN CITY (AP) — German Chancellor Angela Merkel, mindful of the importance of Christian voters in September elections, met with Pope Francis on Saturday during a quick trip to Rome that focused on helping victims of Europe's economic crisis and emphasizing the continent's Christian roots.

Merkel spoke privately for 45 minutes with the pope at the Apostolic Palace, after exchanging cordial greetings in German.

Her Christian Democrat party depends heavily on support from Protestant and Catholic voters, and the chat and photo opportunity could be a welcome campaign boost for a leader largely identified by Europe's economically suffering citizens as a champion of debt reduction, including painful austerity across much of the continent.

For its part, the Vatican is eager for allies in its campaign to win over more Catholics. Francis was leading a sort of pep rally for the faith in St. Peter's Square Saturday evening, attended by about 150,000 people.

Most were from Europe but many came from the pope's native South America. They sang and prayed during an hours-long gathering ahead of the pope's appearance.

On Thursday, Francis blasted what he called a "cult of money" in a global financial system that ends up tyrannizing, not helping, the world's poor.

Asked whether they had also talked about the pope's recent criticism, Merkel said they spoke about the regulation of the financial markets.

"The regulation of the financial markets is our central problem, our central task," Merkel told reporters on the Vatican grounds. "We are moving ahead, but we are not yet where we want to be, where we could say that a derailment of the guard rails of social market won't happen again."

Merkel added: "It ought to be like this: the economy is there to serve the people. In the last few years, this hasn't been the case at all everywhere."
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Merkel is currently campaigning for re-election in September's general elections. Half of Germany's population is Catholic. In Bavaria especially there is a strong conservative and Catholic tradition.
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Merkel said she has reflected on how she and Francis both had spent part of their lives in countries once under dictatorships — her native East Germany under Soviet-influenced communist rule, and the pope's Argentine homeland, once ruled by a bloody military dictatorship.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/opinion/sunday/in-euro-crisis-germany-looks-to-martin-luther.html?_r=0
German Austerity’s Lutheran Core
 By STEVEN OZMENT
 Published: August 11, 2012

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But rather than scour tarnished Weimar, we should read much deeper into Germany’s incomparably rich history, and in particular the indelible mark left by Martin Luther and the “mighty fortress” he built with his strain of Protestantism. Even today Germany, though religiously diverse and politically secular, defines itself and its mission through the writings and actions of the 16th century reformer, who left a succinct definition of Lutheran society in his treatise “The Freedom of a Christian,” which he summarized in two sentences: “A Christian is a perfectly free Lord of all, subject to none, and a Christian is a perfectly dutiful servant of all.”

Consider Luther’s view on charity and the poor. He made the care of the poor an organized, civic obligation by proposing that a common chest be put in every German town; rather than skimp along with the traditional practice of almsgiving to the needy and deserving native poor, Luther proposed that they receive grants, or loans, from the chest. Each recipient would pledge to repay the borrowed amount after a timely recovery and return to self-sufficiency, thereby taking responsibility for both his neighbors and himself. This was love of one’s neighbor through shared civic responsibility, what the Lutherans still call “faith begetting charity.”

How little has changed in 500 years. The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, a born-and-baptized daughter of an East German Lutheran pastor, clearly believes the age-old moral virtues and remedies are the best medicine for the euro crisis. She has no desire to press a secular ideology, let alone an institutional religious faith, on her country, but her politics draws unmistakably from an austere and self-sacrificing, yet charitable and fair, Protestantism.

If Ms. Merkel refuses to support so-called euro bonds, it is not because it would be like giving free money to the undeserving poor but because it would not help the redeemed poor take responsibility for their own houses and grow strong for both themselves and their needy neighbors. He who receives, recovers and profits from society in a time of need has a moral responsibility to pay society back by acting in turn as a strong citizen who can help fill the common chests and sacrifice for his now needy neighbors, who had once helped him. Such is the sacrificial Lutheran society.

For this point of view Ms. Merkel has been derided as the “austerity queen,” and worse. But she is undeterred. She admits that austerity is the toughest road home but hastens to add that it is also the surest and quickest way to recover the economy and gain full emancipation from the crisis. Luther would agree.

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Pope Francis urges global leaders to end 'tyranny' of money

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold
A total of 171,300 tonnes of gold have been mined in human history, according to GFMS as of 2011.[2] This is roughly equivalent to 5.5 billion troy ounces or, in terms of volume, about 8876 m3, or a cube 20.7 m on a side

http://facts.randomhistory.com/2009/03/09_gold.html
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5.Due to its high value, most gold discovered throughout history is still in circulation. However, it is thought that 80% of the world’s gold is still in the ground.b

40.The world’s largest stockpile of gold can be found five stories underground inside the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s vault and it holds 25% of the world's gold reserve (540,000 gold bars). While it contains more gold than Fort Knox, most of it belongs to foreign governments.f

44.Only approximately 142,000 tons of gold have mined throughout history. Assuming the price of gold is $1,000 per ounce, the total amount of gold that has been mined would equal roughly $4.5 trillion. The United States alone circulates or deposits over $7.6 trillion, suggesting that a return to the gold standard would not be feasible. While most scholars agree a return to a gold standard is not feasible, a few gold standard advocates (such as many Libertarians and Objectivists), argue that a return to a gold standard system would ease inflation risks and limit government power

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserve
World Gold Reserves: Notice ONLY ~40,000 TONS!
It has been estimated that all the gold mined by the end of 2011 totalled 171,300 tonnes
So where is 100 tons of gold?

(http://vanguardcapitalgroup.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/6/160905_147263_l_2.png) (http://www.empowernetwork.com/moonwalker87/files/2012/10/Pope-Gold-Pearls.jpg)

(http://www.dojorat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Gold-Bars-in-Fort-Knox-300x195.jpg)

Vatican Gold
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/gold/gold.html

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on May 22, 2013, 06:59:36 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/pope-francis-atheists-can-be-good
Pope Francis says atheists can be good
Just do good, and we'll find a meeting point, says Francis in marked departure from Benedict's line on non-Catholics

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328536/Angela-Merkel-Communist-links-new-image-uniform-released.html#ixzz2U1X333ex
German chancellor Merkel under fire over Communist links as image of her in uniform is released
She denies she was close to the Communist rulers in East Germany, where she grew up.
So this 1972 photo of her in military-style uniform has left German Chancellor Angela Merkel ‘not amused’.

Then called Angela Kasner and aged 17, she is shown happily involved in a civil defence exercise under the gaze of an East German officer. Drills included first aid and preparing for nuclear attack.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/21/article-2328536-19EB9CC3000005DC-960_634x391.jpg)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Outer Haven on May 23, 2013, 12:45:53 am
Quote
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/WiresImages/2013/05/18/fe590a2aaa653210320f6a706700fe23-1305181315_4_3_rx404_c534x401.jpg
Wow, that really says it all.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on June 02, 2013, 04:47:15 pm
from Drudge:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-leads-catholics-first-worldwide-holy-hour-153935502.html
Pope leads Catholics in first worldwide 'Holy Hour'
5 hours ago.
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis led Roman Catholics on Sunday in the first worldwide "Holy Hour," in which participants prayed at the same time around the globe for those suffering from war, slave labor, human trafficking and the economic crisis.

The Vatican asked Catholics to join him between 5-6 p.m. Rome time (11.00 a.m.-12.00 p.m. ET) in what is known as a Eucharistic adoration - praying before a consecrated communion host.

They were asked to gather in cathedrals, neighborhood parishes and monasteries to pray for two general intentions penned by the pope, who prayed in St. Peter's Basilica.

One was for those "who still suffer slavery and who are victims of war, human trafficking, drug running and slave labor" as well as for the "unemployed, the elderly, migrants, the homeless, prisoners and those who experience marginalization".

The other was for the 1.2 billion member Church itself and that it be "without stain or blemish", an apparent allusion to scandals that have undermined its credibility, such as the sexual abuse of children by clergy.

A Vatican official said it was "the first time in the history of the Church" that such an event was taking place. The Vatican said it was impossible to estimate immediately how many people took part.

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/06/02/catholics_prepare_for_worldwide_eucharistic_adoration/en1-697682
Catholics prepare for worldwide Eucharistic Adoration

From 5-6 pm Rome time, cathedrals and churches throughout the world will be hosting Eucharistic Adoration, led by the Holy Father in Saint Peter’s Basilica.

This year’s Corpus Christi celebrations are tied in to the Year of Faith with the theme “One Lord, one faith.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic/2013/06/to-join-pope-francis-in-adoration-of-our-eucharistic-lord.html

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/05/28/pope_to_lead_millions_in_global_hour_of_adoration/en1-696274
Pope to lead millions in global hour of Adoration

(Vatican Radio/ VIS) From the Cook Islands to Chile, Burkina Faso, Taiwan, Iraq, Bangladesh, the United States, and the Philippines, people will unite in prayer with Pope Francis this weekend before One Lord and in One faith, for an hour of Eucharistic Adoration.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8z2b7tw-EPE
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: White Rose Sophie on June 04, 2013, 11:20:28 am
Catholics prepare for worldwide Eucharistic Adoration

From 5-6 pm Rome time, cathedrals and churches throughout the world will be hosting Eucharistic Adoration, led by the Holy Father in Saint Peter’s Basilica.

This year’s Corpus Christi celebrations are tied in to the Year of Faith with the theme “One Lord, one faith.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic/2013/06/to-join-pope-francis-in-adoration-of-our-eucharistic-lord.html

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/05/28/pope_to_lead_millions_in_global_hour_of_adoration/en1-696274
Pope to lead millions in global hour of Adoration

(Vatican Radio/ VIS) From the Cook Islands to Chile, Burkina Faso, Taiwan, Iraq, Bangladesh, the United States, and the Philippines, people will unite in prayer with Pope Francis this weekend before One Lord and in One faith, for an hour of Eucharistic Adoration.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8z2b7tw-EPE

AH!! Uniting in "ONE FAITH"....wow.  Sounds familiar,eh?

Evil rarely appears as 'evil'.   Doesn't the Bible say that Satan masquerades as an angel of 'Light"?
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on June 04, 2013, 01:14:59 pm
Is this the typical American Catholic ethic?:

Good Catholic Girls (http://goodcatholicgirls.tumblr.com/)

(http://www.saintmarkcatholicschool.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/girls.jpg) (http://www.saintmarkcatholicschool.com/)

http://washingtonexaminer.com/sebelius-wont-waive-regulation-for-girl-with-five-weeks-to-live-someone-lives-and-someone-dies/article/2531097

Sebelius won’t waive regulation for girl with five weeks to live:
'Someone lives and someone dies’

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Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius rebuffed an appeal from Rep. Lou Barletta, R-Pa., on behalf of a girl who needs a lung transplant but can't get one because of a federal regulation that prevents her from qualifying for a transplant.

“Please, suspend the rules until we look at this policy,” Rep. Lou Barletta, R-Pa., asked Sebelius during a House hearing Tuesday on behalf of Sarah Murnaghan, a 10-year-old girl who needs a lung transplant. She can’t qualify for an adult lung transplant until the age of 12, according to federal regulations, but Sebelius has the authority to waive that rule on her behalf. The pediatric lungs for which she qualifies aren’t available.

“I would suggest, sir, that, again, this is an incredibly agonizing situation where someone lives and someone dies,” Sebelius replied.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius
Sebelius was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, the daughter of Mary Kathryn (née Dixon) and John Joyce "Jack" Gilligan.[3][4]

Her family was Roman Catholic, and had Irish ancestry.[5][6] She attended the Summit Country Day School in Cincinnati and graduated from Trinity Washington University in Washington, D.C. with a B.A. in political science.

She later earned a Master of Public Administration degree from the University of Kansas. She moved to Kansas in 1974, where she served for eight years as a representative in the Kansas Legislature and eight years as Insurance Commissioner before being elected governor.
...

After Barack Obama's clinching of the nomination in June 2008, speculation that she would be a contender for the vice-presidential slot on the Democratic ticket continued
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On February 28, 2009, it was reported that Sebelius had accepted Obama's nomination for the position of Secretary of Health and Human Services. On March 2, 2009, Obama officially announced Governor Sebelius as his nominee.[54]

At Obama's announcement, Sebelius was accompanied by two Kansas Republicans, former U.S. Senator Bob Dole and current U.S. Senator Pat Roberts. Pro-life advocates opposed the nomination and pro-life members in the Senate were most likely to be her main opposition.[55]

Sebelius was confirmed as the Secretary of Health and Human Services by the Senate on April 28, 2009 with a vote of 65–31

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Washington_University

Trinity Washington University, founded in 1897 by the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur, is a Roman Catholic university located in Washington, D.C. across from Catholic University of America and the Dominican House of Studies. ...
Trinity College was founded by the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur in 1897 as a Catholic college for women.


Noted alumnae

Nancy Pelosi, House Minority Leader, former Speaker of the House
Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services; former Governor of Kansas
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on June 04, 2013, 01:57:30 pm
 All in the family.
 The 2 party system, thats a laugh and has been for decades. They go along, play the game and get the bennys.
 They don't care!! George Carlins lone liner was on the dime.
 
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Outer Haven on June 06, 2013, 01:19:16 am
Don't you people understand that antipope Francis &co. are Freemasons and not Catholics...? And in case you hadn't heard, pope Leo XIII warned that Catholics aren't allowed to even familiarise themselves with anyone who's a Freemason.
Title: Pope: Wasting food is tantamount to stealing from the poor
Post by: No2NWO on June 06, 2013, 11:45:18 am


Pope Francis took a page out of the "Book of Mom" yesterday by denouncing consumerism and the “culture of waste” of modern economies when it comes to food during his catechesis Wednesday. Given the high volume of food thrown away by American businesses daily, this papal message could be manna from heaven for food banks.

My hope as a community volunteer is that the pope’s message will help food banks get more volunteers and create additional partnerships with businesses in order to perform what they call “food rescue.”

"Remember, however, that the food that is thrown away is as if we had stolen it from the table of the poor, from those who are hungry," according to his written remarks. 

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Family/Modern-Parenthood/2013/0606/Pope-Wasting-food-is-tantamount-to-stealing-from-the-poor-so-how-can-you-help

Hey Pope Frankie... criticism is not a solution. Perhaps if the Church was less occupied with accumulating wealth, molesting little boys and the Oh so time consuming cover-ups, your advisors could have given you a solution as a topic of discussion.
Title: Re: Pope: Wasting food is tantamount to stealing from the poor
Post by: Geolibertarian on June 06, 2013, 12:56:52 pm
Hey Pope Frankie... criticism is not a solution. Perhaps if the Church was less occupied with accumulating wealth, molesting little boys and the Oh so time consuming cover-ups, your advisors could have given you a solution as a topic of discussion.

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a Communist."

-- Dom Hélder Câmara


Although it is far from alone in this regard, the problem with the Church -- at least at the leadership level -- is that it has historically ignored or, worse, made excuses for the ruling-class privileges (see this (http://savingcommunities.org/issues/), this (http://www.monetary.org/review-of-robert-de-fremerys-rights-vs-privileges/2010/12) and this (http://www.progress.org/archive/hgjr8a.htm)) that made so many people "poor" in the first place.

Henry George, as I've mentioned before, took Pope Leo XIII to task for this over a century ago, so this is hardly a recent trend...

"In speaking of the practical measures for the improvement of the condition of labor which your Holiness suggests, I have not mentioned what you place much stress upon — charity. But there is nothing practical in such recommendations as a cure for poverty, nor will any one so consider them. If it were possible for the giving of alms to abolish poverty there would be no poverty in Christendom.

"Charity is indeed a noble and beautiful virtue, grateful to man and approved by God. But charity must be built on justice. It cannot supersede justice.

"What is wrong with the condition of labor through the Christian world is that labor is robbed. And while you justify the continuance of that robbery it is idle to urge charity. To do so — to commend charity as a substitute for justice, is indeed something akin in essence to those heresies, condemned by your predecessors, that taught that the gospel had superseded the law, and that the love of God exempted men from moral obligations.

"All that charity can do where injustice exists is here and there to mollify somewhat the effects of injustice. It cannot cure them. Nor is even what little it can do to mollify the effects of injustice without evil. For what may be called the superimposed, and in this sense, secondary virtues, work evil where the fundamental or primary virtues are absent. Thus sobriety is a virtue and diligence is a virtue. But a sober and diligent thief is all the more dangerous. Thus patience is a virtue. But patience under wrong is the condoning of wrong. Thus it is a virtue to seek knowledge and to endeavor to cultivate the mental powers. But the wicked man becomes more capable of evil by reason of his intelligence. Devils we always think of as intelligent.

"And thus that pseudo-charity that discards and denies justice works evil. On the one side, it demoralizes its recipients, outraging that human dignity which as you say 'God himself treats with reverence,' and turning into beggars and paupers men who to become self-supporting, self-respecting citizens need only the restitution of what God has given them. On the other side, it acts as an anodyne to the consciences of those who are living on the robbery of their fellows, and fosters that moral delusion and spiritual pride that Christ doubtless had in mind when he said it was easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. For it leads men steeped in injustice, and using their money and their influence to bolster up injustice, to think that in giving alms they are doing something more than their duty toward man and deserve to be very well thought of by God, and in a vague way to attribute to their own goodness what really belongs to God’s goodness. For consider: Who is the All-Provider? Who is it that as you say, 'owes to man a storehouse that shall never fail,' and which 'he finds only in the inexhaustible fertility of the earth.' Is it not God? And when, therefore, men, deprived of the bounty of their God, are made dependent on the bounty of their fellow-creatures, are not these creatures, as it were, put in the place of God, to take credit to themselves for paying obligations that you yourself say God owes?

"But worse perhaps than all else is the way in which this substituting of vague injunctions to charity for the clear-cut demands of justice opens an easy means for the professed teachers of the Christian religion of all branches and communions to placate Mammon while persuading themselves that they are serving God. Had the English clergy not subordinated the teaching of justice to the teaching of charity — to go no further in illustrating a principle of which the whole history of Christendom from Constantine’s time to our own is witness — the Tudor tyranny would never have arisen, and the separation of the church been averted; had the clergy of France never substituted charity for justice, the monstrous iniquities of the ancient régime would never have brought the horrors of the Great Revolution; and in my own country had those who should have preached justice not satisfied themselves with preaching kindness, chattel slavery could never have demanded the holocaust of our civil war.

"No, your Holiness; as faith without works is dead, as men cannot give to God his due while denying to their fellows the rights he gave them, so charity unsupported by justice can do nothing to solve the problem of the existing condition of labor."

-- Henry George, The Condition of Labor (http://wealthandwant.com/HG/the_condition_of_labor.htm), pp. 92-95
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 30, 2013, 10:33:50 am
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/a11ab832-f845-11e2-92f0-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2aTg7KAgO
Pope Francis strikes more conciliatory tone on gay clergy
By Guy Dinmore in Rome

Pope Francis has challenged his doctrinaire predecessor’s opinions on gay priests while upholding Church dogma that bans the ordination of women.
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Unlike his predecessor who would only answer a few pre-scripted questions, the 76-year-old Argentine Jesuit fielded all issues unprompted, ranging from the so-called “gay lobby” in the Vatican to accusations of corruption involving its bank.

“If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?’’ the pontiff said in remarks that Vatican reporters saw as the most conciliatory on the issue of gay priests expressed by any pope. In line with Church teaching, Francis said gays should not be judged or marginalised but integrated into society, while maintaining that homosexual acts are a sin.
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Pope Francis, speaking mostly in Italian, was answering a question about reports of a “gay lobby” in the Vatican and the scandals of paedophile priests.

“I still have not seen anyone in the Vatican with an identity card saying they are gay,” the pope joked, distinguishing between lobbies and individual orientation.

On the question of ordaining women, the Pope was blunt in his rejection. “The Church has spoken and says ‘no’. Pope John Paul said so with a formula that was definitive. That door is closed,” he said.
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Pope Francis was specifically asked about a trusted monsignor whom he appointed to oversee the Vatican bank and was later reported to have been involved in a gay tryst a decade ago. The Pope replied that he investigated but found no such evidence. He also noted that the allegations were a matter of sin, not of a crime such as child abuse.
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http://www.vaticancrimes.us/
http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2013/07/arrested-cleric-accuses-cardinals-of.html

Friday, July 26, 2013
VATICAN CITY - A senior cleric arrested on suspicion of corruption wrote to the pope on Thursday to accuse cardinals of covering up irregular financial activities carried out by his superiors in the Vatican.
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The prelate, who was arrested on June 28 on suspicion of having acted as an intermediary for suspect transactions at the Vatican bank — otherwise known as the Institute for Religious Works (IOR) — proclaimed his innocence.

“I never laundered dirty money, I never stole, I tried to help someone who asked for help,” he wrote from behind bars in Rome’s Regina Coeli prison. Scarano, who worked for years as an accountant for APSA, an agency that manages Vatican assets, said he had documents which would prove his good faith and asked the pontiff permission to present them to him in person.
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http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2013/07/documentary-proving-catholic-churchs.html


The Vatican has implemented the CRIMENS SOLLICITATIONIS worldwide, a 39 page document which gives specific instructions to each archdiocese how to protect pederast priests, shifts them around, intimidate sex abuse victims and silence them.

Pope Francis and prior popes as well have had the nations entertained by acting "shocked" when sex abuse victim testimonies have been featured in news headlines, saying that they will "look into them" and even initiating so-called investigations or "commissions" - when in fact they have canon laws in place to protect these criminals.

The documentary below sheds light as to how the Catholic Church has silenced the systematic abuse in USA as well. We invite our dear readers to watch this video and to check out the summary report of over 10 million crimes committed by the catholic clergy worldwide in using their false appearance of "mercy" and so-called "helping the poor" motto to deceive the masses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rpDJhCVTItg
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 01, 2013, 10:41:33 am
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/01/religious-order-priest-admitted-abusing-100-boys-new-files-add-to-la-clergy/
Religious order priest admitted abusing 100 boys; new files add to LA clergy abuse picture
Published August 01, 2013/
Associated Press


LOS ANGELES –  In therapy sessions, the priest confessed the shocking details he'd kept hidden for years: He had molested more than 100 boys, including his 5-year-old brother. He had sex with male prostitutes, and frequented gay strip clubs.

The admissions of the Rev. Ruben Martinez are included among nearly 2,000 pages of secret files unsealed Wednesday that were kept on priests, brothers and nuns who belonged to religious orders but were accused of child molestation while working within the Los Angeles archdiocese

The papers, which were released under the terms of a $660 million settlement agreement reached in 2007, are the first glimpse at what religious orders knew about the men and women they posted in Roman Catholic schools and parishes in the Los Angeles area. The archdiocese itself released thousands of pages under court order this year for its own priests who were accused of sexual abuse, but the full picture of the problem remained elusive without the orders' records. Several dozen more files are expected to be released by the fall.
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/milwaukee-archdiocese-to-release-sex-abuse-file-on-another-priest-b9954235z1-215443681.html
Milwaukee Archdiocese to release sex abuse file on another priest
By Associated Press   
July 14, 2013

At least one more priest's personnel file will be made public as the Archdiocese of Milwaukee wraps up its investigations of sexual abuse claims filed in federal bankruptcy court, the archdiocese's spokesman said.

The archdiocese released personnel files for 42 priests on July 1 as part of a deal with sexual abuse victims suing it for fraud. Some victims have criticized the church for not releasing more records.

Archdiocese spokesman Jerry Topczewski said last week that another priest's file has been given to the archdiocese's attorneys, who will work with victims' attorneys to decide which portions to make public. A second priest is still under investigation, and his file could eventually become public. But other records will never be released.

The archdiocese has 45 priests on its list of those with verified allegations of abuse. Most of their names have been public since the archdiocese released its initial list in 2004, but one wasn't added until after the archdiocese filed for bankruptcy in January 2011.

Hundreds of people came forward then with sexual abuse claims, many involving new allegations. The archdiocese treated those claims as new reports of abuse, forwarding allegations about anyone who was still alive to police and opening its own investigations, Topczewski said.

In 2012, the archdiocese added Donald Musinski to its list. Musinski served in churches in Milwaukee, Belgium and Johnsburg from 1962 to 1999. He died in 2006.

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http://www.archpdxpriestfiles.com/

Child Abuse in the Catholic Archdiocese of Portland, Oregon:
As Told By the Documents Themselves
.

The goal of this site is to help the public, child advocates, and any institution which sponsors “relationships of trust” between adults and children, to see what the Archdiocese of Portland, and its Archbishops and Staff, knew or should have known about pedophile priests, so as to learn from these mistakes and thereby ensure that the tragedies of child abuse do not happen elsewhere.

How this Site Came to Be

At the conclusion of the three-year long Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of the Archdiocese in April, 2007, and as part of the negotiations toward closure of that legal proceeding, a deal was struck between survivors of priest and nun abuse, on the one hand, and Archbishop John Vlazny and the Archdiocese, on the other hand.   That agreement, one of the first of its kind in the nation, required the Archdiocese to release to the public its historical internal documents, including the Archdiocese’s so-called “secret archives”–secret personnel files–concerning offending priests.

A process of mediation and arbitration was set up for the lawyers for both sides to try to agree on which specific documents should be released. Unfortunately, the negotiations broke down in the Spring of 2008, and an arbitration was held before US District Court Judge Michael Hogan on June 9, 2008.

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http://sanmarino.patch.com/groups/around-town/p/catholic-archdiocese-releases-pedophile-priest-documents

Catholic Archdiocese to Release Pedophile Priest Documents

The 12,000-page clergy files include the names of priests, culminating years of legal wrangling over whether names should be redacted from the paperwork.

Posted by  City News Service , February 01, 2013 at 03:30 AM

After a years-long legal battle, the Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles Thursday released personnel files of more than 100 clergy members as part of a 2007 settlement of a lawsuit alleging sexual abuse by priests.

The clergy files included the names of priests, culminating years of legal wrangling over whether names should be redacted from the paperwork.
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The files were made available online here.
http://clergyfiles.la-archdiocese.org/

Introduction to Clergy Files Produced by Archdiocese of Los Angeles

The 2013 public release of the  files of clergy who were subject of the 2007 global settlement, concludes a sad and shameful chapter in the history of our Local Church. In the 2004 Report to the People of God and elsewhere, the Archdiocese acknowledged and apologized for failing to treat victims of abuse with compassion, as well as for employing what we now know to be inadequate standards for treatment and supervision of priests who were found to have abused children and young people.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/31/sex-abuse-church-revealed-secret-files-los-angeles_n_3684329.html#slide=1202128
Los Angeles Catholic Church Sex Abuse Files Released Including Files On Ruben Martinez Who Abused 100 Boys
By GILLIAN FLACCUS 07/31/13
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 31, 2013, 10:12:17 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/10276319/Pope-breaks-with-protocol-by-bowing-to-Queen-Rania-of-Jordan.html
Pope breaks with protocol by bowing to Queen Rania of Jordan
The Pope has broken yet another point of Vatican protocol by bowing when he met Queen Rania of Jordan
By Tom Kington, Rome
2:16PM BST 30 Aug 2013

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02657/popequeen_2657382b.jpg)


As head of state at the Vatican, not to mention the leader of the world's 1.2 billion catholics, protocol requires visitors to bow to him when they meet him at the Holy See.

But Francis, who has made the forgetting of formalities a trademark of his papacy, bowed when he met a smiling Rania as she visited the Vatican with her husband King Abdullah II on Thursday
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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 23, 2013, 04:49:06 pm
So what about that Vatican bank ? and the Gold in the NewYork Fed ? and the Goldman Sachs investments ?  
So here is the Pope going off script. Saying what he really thinks? I am a bit amazed... Hope he doesn't have an accident


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-attacks-global-economics-worshipping-god-money-100212602.html

Pope attacks global economics for worshipping 'god of money'
ReutersBy Philip Pullella | Reuters – Sun, 22 Sep, 2013

By Philip Pullella

CAGLIARI, Sardinia (Reuters) - Pope Francis made one of his strongest attacks on the global economic system on Sunday, saying it could no longer be based on a "god called money" and urged the unemployed to fight for work.

Francis, at the start of a day-long trip to the Sardinian capital, Cagliari, put aside his prepared text at a meeting with unemployed workers, including miners in hard hats who told him of their situation, and improvised for nearly 20 minutes.

"I find suffering here ... It weakens you and robs you of hope," he said. "Excuse me if I use strong words, but where there is no work there is no dignity."

He discarded his prepared speech after listening to Francesco Mattana, a 45-year-old married father of three who lost his job with an alternative energy company four years ago.

Mattana, his voice trembling, told the pope that unemployment "oppresses you and wears you out to the depths of your soul".

The crowd of about 20,000 people in a square near the city port chanted what Francis called a prayer for "work, work, work". They cheered each time he spoke of the rights of workers and the personal devastation caused by joblessness
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The pope, who later celebrated Mass for some 300,000 people outside the city's cathedral, told them: "We don't want this globalised economic system which does us so much harm. Men and women have to be at the centre (of an economic system) as God wants, not money."

"The world has become an idolator of this god called money," he said.

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Title: The Pope's Economic Plan
Post by: Geolibertarian on December 02, 2013, 10:29:14 am
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Pope-s-Economic-Plan-by-Scott-Baker-Catholicism-Vatican-Pope_Economic_Economic-Collapse_Economic-Crisis-131126-494.html (http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Pope-s-Economic-Plan-by-Scott-Baker-Catholicism-Vatican-Pope_Economic_Economic-Collapse_Economic-Crisis-131126-494.html)

The Pope's Economic Plan

By Scott Baker
OpEdNews.com
11/26/2013

Today, Pope Francis released an 84-page document, known as an apostolic exhortation, called an Official Platform for his papacy (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/pope-francis-evangelii-gaudium_n_4342964.html) by Reuters.   Frankly, most of it is arcane religious doctrine and prescriptions to this atheist, but the pope's economic plan ought to be of interest to everyone.

This pope lives simply, in a guest house, and has been known to wash the feet of ordinary people, despite having access to vast wealth, like all popes.   Further, like his namesake, Saint Francis, he seems to sincerely wish to do something to combat poverty.   However, most of the MSM articles are crafting his message in purely moral terms.   From the Reuters article:


Did the pope just call for universal healthcare?   Where was he when Obamacare ruled out the Public Option?   On safer ground, the Reuters article continues:


This is safe territory for most media.   "Just give a little more...share what you've made with those less fortunate," is safe because how much is enough?   How much is too little?   One could debate redistribution forever without addressing the reason for maldistribution in the first place.

Senator Bernie Sanders digs a bit further, recognizing the pope's "past passionate criticism of the global financial system, which has plunged more of the world into poverty while benefiting the wealthy few."

From Reuters:


The pope is clearly not a believer in deregulated markets!   What would (catholic) Ronald Reagan have thought?

But, there is more to the Pope's plan than just exhortations to -- somehow -- lessen the wealth gap.   Although for some reason, none of the articles I found directly linked to the actual apostolic exhortation, I was able to find it here (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html).

In chapter 2, section I, the pope writes of "SOME CHALLENGES OF TODAY'S WORLD," saying:


So far, this is pretty standard stuff, maybe equivalent to a "papal rant."   But Francis goes on to more stridently argue "No to an economy of exclusion," arguing that there should be a new commandment "'thou shalt not' to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills."

Better yet, from the point of view of an atheist like me who looks for rational solutions to defined problems, he is impatient with certain popular, but failed, economic theorems.


Did the Pope just repudiate the trickle-down free market?  It sure seems that way. This is sure to not sit well with the typical elite V.I.P.s that normally fill a Pope's daily itinerary!

Furthermore, he is saying that merely trusting in the goodness of others is naive and unworkable as an economic plan.   There are specific remedies to be applied, not just spiritual awakening.   This is quite refreshing coming from a spiritual leader!

He goes on to say "No to the new idolatry of money," though one can be forgiven for thinking it's all very well for one of the -- potentially -- wealthiest men in the world to say stop worshiping money, or that "Money must serve, not rule!"   But what we want to know what is he proposing to do about it, beyond preaching "A financial reform open to such ethical considerations?"

Well, he squarely says that violence comes from inequality and social injustice, "at its root," not just from a failure of character (or faith).   And the pope has his cross hairs aimed at the hyper-security state too:


So, the pope is saying that lack of opportunity and gross inequality creates violent reaction, not jealousy.  

I wish he had said something about the lack of faith in one's fellow man.   Evil does not just happen; it is driven by fear and distrust.   This is a lack of faith in the inherent goodness of people.   And it is inherent too.   Only a small minority of people, including the oligarchs, disrupts or pathologizes the conditions for the rest of us.   The small number of oligarchs taking the wealth through rent-seeking and monopolization is comparable to the number of hard core terrorists, but only one group gets the attention it deserves, or perhaps too much attention, given how the 1% elite create conditions for terrorism to breed.

The pope seems to be calling for an end, or at least curtailment, of the "war on terror" and says it is ultimately futile:


The pope goes on to criticize today's consumerism-- this, at a time when economists are stuck in the mode of growth at all costs to achieve happiness, instead of asking what it is that makes us happy to begin with, beyond just having more "stuff."

As Francis reminds us:


This is pretty radical stuff, even the talk of revolutionaries.   This is also new, as the pope says.   He is telling us that we have actually discarded a whole class of human beings, not merely exploited them.   Is he calling for an uprising, even a peaceful one?


The quotes around "education" are his.   He is obviously skeptical of today's schooling, and its usefulness later on.

Unfortunately, the pope does not quite follow through with a true understanding of how the Haves take from the Have-Nots, if not by force, than as economic hitmen, making loans with impossible payment requirements, and then seizing collateral, even whole countries.   He once again pleads for redistribution:


...instead of for just compensation for the use of resources.   Africa, for example, is resource rich, yet its people are among the poorest.   Clearly, they are not being compensated for their natural wealth.   It is not that their resources are not worth more, without some of them, our modern electronic age could not exist.   But those who ought to pay, would rather take the resources by guile or by force.   To pay more is not charity, it is justice.   For example, a tax on the use/abuse of resources, including location in dense urban areas (http://www.opednews.com/articles/Cheating-and-the-Corporate-by-Scott-Baker-Cheating_Corporate-Accountability_Corporate-Communism_Corporate-Corruption-Crime-131124-187.html), would encourage sustainable development while collecting enough money to feed and house all the poor.   For that matter, it would force empty warehoused buildings into becoming homes for the poor, or at the very least, make it possible for government to provide a small stipend to make that happen.   Right now, most government housing programs are notoriously more expensive than they ought to be, and the dangerous shelter system is no moral solution.

Francis does recognize that:

[Continued... (http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Pope-s-Economic-Plan-by-Scott-Baker-Catholicism-Vatican-Pope_Economic_Economic-Collapse_Economic-Crisis-131126-494.html)]
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on December 02, 2013, 01:37:30 pm
Admittedly I'm a cynic.
That this man shuns wealth, lives in humble surroundings and rally's for the poor appears to be of an admirable quality.
 BUT. He is the poster man for a corporate religion, no offense to any catholics, to reaffirm that statement I consider all heavy duty corporate religions in that context.
 If the Pope would open the doors of the hidden archives, the Vatican's vast treasures and secrets revealed in total, their holdings, money, land, homes, and all other finances, I would definitely  be impressed and downgrade my cynicism.
 Why keep secrets in a vault, sorry guys, I can't help it, the NSA, DOD, CIA,W.H, etc.etc.etc.. do the same shiite.
        Just to mention, I'm a God fearing man and am not hitting on anyone's religious belief.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 02, 2013, 01:59:55 pm
You think the "pope" is in control of the Vatican?? really? I would say he's doing the best he can.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on December 02, 2013, 05:29:24 pm
You think the "pope" is in control of the Vatican?? really? I would say he's doing the best he can.
                 Hi T.
 I don't think that this man alone runs the Vatican and I do enjoy his humanistic traits he expounds upon.
 I can't in any way judge this man, all I can say is when a religion owns a sovereign nation or independent state my skepticism steps in.
  His words are connected to spiritual values as any less would be self defeating.
 No offense, but for me it's a coin toss and only time will tell. One thing I feel certain about, the Vatican/ Church needed to regain it's image, to continue growth,( he was a good choice ).Vatican- A political sovereign state is A- religion as well as A- political influence.
 The theme of his words are well chosen, no doubt about it.
 
                Vatican City Listeni/ˈvætɨkən ˈsɪti/, officially Vatican City State (Italian: Stato della Città del Vaticano;[8] pronounced [ˈstaːto della t͡ʃitˈta del vatiˈkaːno]), is a landlocked sovereign city-state whose territory consists of a walled enclave within the city of Rome. It has an area of approximately 44 hectares (110 acres), and a population of around 840.[1] This makes Vatican City the smallest internationally recognized independent state in the world by both area and population.
Vatican City is an ecclesiastical[1] or sacerdotal-monarchical[2] state, ruled by the Bishop of Rome—the Pope. The highest state functionaries are all Catholic clergymen of various national origins. It is the sovereign territory of the Holy See . WIK
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on December 03, 2013, 12:17:57 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/pope-francis-denounces-trickle-down-economic-theories-in-critique-of-inequality/2013/11/26/e17ffe4e-56b6-11e3-8304-caf30787c0a9_story.html
Pope Francis denounces ‘trickle-down’ economic theories in critique of inequality
Published: November 26 2013
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Using a phrase with special resonance in the United States, he strongly criticized an economic theory — often affiliated with conservatives — that discourages taxation and regulation.
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“Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world,” Francis wrote in the papal statement. “This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naive trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacra­lized workings of the prevailing economic system.”

“Meanwhile,” he added, “the excluded are still waiting.”



http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Netanyahu-holds-first-meeting-with-Pope-Francis-333708
 Netanyahu holds first meeting with Pope Francis
ERIC J. LYMAN
12/02/2013


VATICAN CITY – Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu met with Pope Francis in a 25-minute closed-door meeting Monday, with a host of geo-political and religious issues on the agenda as well as a formal invitation for the pontiff to visit the Holy Land next year.

It was the first time the two leaders met face to face, and they discussed the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, the escalating worries about Iran's nuclear program, the Syrian civil war, the welfare of Christians in Israel, as well as the pope’s expected visit to Israel.

If Francis does make such a trip, he will be just the third pope to visit the country since the Vatican established diplomatic ties 20 years ago, following a visit from John Paul II in 2000 and Benedict XVI in 2009. Pope Paul VI also briefly visited Jerusalem in 1964.
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According to political experts, Netanyahu's trip, which also includes a meeting with Italian Prime Minister Enrico Letta, is important for all sides: for Netanyahu as he tries to rally support for a hard-line stance against Iran, for Italy as it seeks to play its traditional role as a bridge builder in the Middle East, and for the Vatican as it looks to reassert its role as a global player after several years in which that role was reduced.
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Title: Pope Francis and Economics
Post by: Geolibertarian on December 04, 2013, 01:19:03 pm
http://www.progress.org/views/editorials/pope-francis-economics/ (http://www.progress.org/views/editorials/pope-francis-economics/)

Pope Francis and Economics

by Fred Foldvary
The Progress Report
December 1, 2013

On November 26, 2013, The Vatican press published the apostolic exhortation, “The Joy of the Gospel.” The text was written in Spanish, and its full title in the English translation (converted here from upper case to initial capitals) is “Evangelii Gaudium of the Holy Father Francis to the Bishops, Clergy, Consecrated Persons and the Lay Faithful on the Proclamation of the Gospel in Today’s World.” Besides its religious calls, Pope Francis makes statements about today’s economic problems, and calls for greater economic justice.

One of the aims of this proclamation is to point out “new paths for the Church’s journey in years to come.” One of the questions the Pope seeks to discuss is “the inclusion of the poor in society.” Chapter Two is entitled, “Amid the Crisis of Communal Commitment.” In paragraph 52, Francis writes that “today we also have to say ‘thou shalt not’ to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills… Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless.”

The Pope is wise and correct in seeing the harm done by inequality, but I urge him to see past the appearances to study the underlying reality. What provides the powerful with their might? The state has the ultimate power of force, and by its power to tax, to restrict, to mandate, and to subsidize, the state endows the powerful with the means to feed on the powerless. Market competition as such cannot impose force, and it does not create poverty. In a free society, each person has the power to be employed and pursue happiness. In a truly free market, all are fit to survive, because workers have access to natural opportunities. It is government intervention that stops this access.

Paragraph 54 is the key, widely cited, economic passage. We need to be sure that the English version is true to the original Spanish. In Spanish, Francis wrote, “algunos todavía defienden las teorías del « derrame », que suponen que todo crecimiento económico, favorecido por la libertad de mercado, logra provocar por sí mismo mayor equidad e inclusión social en el mundo.”

The Vatican’s English translation says, “some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world.”

The English-edition term “trickle-down theories” is translated from the Spanish, “teoria del derrame.” “Derrame” means a slow leak, hence a trickle, and so the English translation is accurate. The translated term “free market” is more literally “the liberty of the market” in the original Spanish, but the meaning is the same.

As noted by Harvard professor Greg Mankiw in his blog, critics of markets often use the term “trickle down” as a pejorative for the effects of a market economy. There is indeed a trickle down effect, for example, when a tourist resort is built in a location with many poor people, where a few get hired to work to clean rooms and wash dishes. A bit of the wealth of the resort trickles to the local population. But this situation does not confront the issue of why the poverty exists in the first place.

The theory of the free market is not one of “trickle down.” A truly free market is a fountain that gushes up wealth for all. Moreover, economic growth in market economies has indeed raised millions of persons up from poverty. However, the theory of market-driven growth does not claim that growth brings justice. The causation is the opposite: economic justice promotes growth. Moreover, justice and liberty are two faces of the same coin, so if a market has liberty, it must also provide justice.

The Pope continues: “This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.”

But the proposition that free markets provide growth that benefits all is not a mere opinion. The proposition is a theory of growth that was first analyzed by the French economists of the 1700s, who concluded that the unhampered market, with free trade, would provide the greatest prosperity for all.

The prescription of the French economists was to abolish taxes on labor and trade, and instead use the surplus of the economy, which is land rent, for public revenue (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=160421.0). Adam Smith in his Wealth of Nations brought this theory into classical economics. The American economist Henry George a century later explained in detail how land rent captures the gains from economic progress, and how growth generates inequality and poverty if that rent is not equally shared.

Markets have had various degrees of freedom, but there is no truly free market in the world today. Those who advocate a pure free market do not defend the “prevailing economic system,” but rather, they seek to stop the state’s subsidy of economic powers. The greatest subsidy and economic power is the land rent generated by the public goods provided by government.

The Pope is correct in decrying “the denial of the primacy of the human person” (paragraph 55) and that “Behind this attitude lurks a rejection of ethics” (57). Ethics and the primacy of the human person requires the equal right of each person to pursue happiness without harming others and to keep the earnings of his labor, as recognized by the commandment, “Thou shalt not steal.” Ethics must also respect the equal sharing of the benefits of nature and community, as stated in Ecclesiastes 5:9, “the profit of the earth is for all.”

The heart of economics is the understanding of the root cause of poverty: the forced (http://www.progress.org/fold239.htm) redistribution of wealth from the working poor to the landed rich. This is caused not by markets but from state policy. It is good that Pope Francis seeks to remedy poverty. His “new path” should be to go more deeply into the economics and politics of maldistribution (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM).
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Outer Haven on December 23, 2013, 01:09:50 am
Umm...
(http://s18.postimg.org/kf6x8glw9/AP081018169839.jpg)
Enough said.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on January 01, 2014, 12:47:53 pm
Umm...
(http://s18.postimg.org/kf6x8glw9/AP081018169839.jpg)
Enough said.

Wow, the Hidden Hand sign!

[ And the people cried PEACE,PEACE - but there was no peace
ezekiel 7:25 Destruction cometh ; and they shall seek peace, and there shall be none.

...they lead my people astray, saying, 'Peace,' when there is no peace..."
Ezekiel 13:10"

http://biblehub.com/jeremiah/8-11.htm
Jeremiah 8:11
For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
 ]  
 

http://paxchristiusa.org/2013/12/26/world-day-of-peace-pope-francis-message-for-the-world-day-of-peace-january-1/
(http://paxchristiusa1.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/popepeacesmall600.jpg)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/01/pope-francis-cry-for-peace-vatican
Pope Francis tells world to listen to 'cry for peace'
Pontiff uses Vatican new year message to say too many people are indifferent to war, violence and injustice
The Guardian, Wednesday 1 January 2014 11.59 EST

Pope Francis has made an impassioned new year's peace address, saying the heart of humanity seemed to have gone astray and too many people were indifferent to war, violence and injustice.

The pontiff, who took his papal name from St Francis of Assisi, the saint most associated with peace, urged the world to listen to the "cry for peace" from suffering peoples.

"What on earth is happening in the hearts of men? What on earth is happening in the heart of humanity?" he said to tens of thousands of people in St Peter's Square on the day the Roman Catholic Church celebrates its World Day of Peace. "It's time to stop!" he said, departing from his prepared text.

Francis was speaking from the window of the Apostolic Palace overlooking St Peter's Square that popes traditionally use for their addresses.
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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Geolibertarian on January 01, 2014, 01:12:44 pm
The only true power, the only power that can heal our sick society, is the power of ideas. And that's why I've always been attracted to anything that transcends all of the dividing lines -- religious, ethnic, cultural, political, etc. -- that keep human beings perpetually and needlessly at odds with one another, despite all of us having the same basic needs and desires.

Among the many threads which that attraction inspired me to create is the following...

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=50916.0 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=50916.0)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: White Rose Sophie on January 01, 2014, 11:00:58 pm
Wow, the Hidden Hand sign!

[ And the people cried PEACE,PEACE - but there was no peace
ezekiel 7:25 Destruction cometh ; and they shall seek peace, and there shall be none.

...they lead my people astray, saying, 'Peace,' when there is no peace..."
Ezekiel 13:10"

http://biblehub.com/jeremiah/8-11.htm
Jeremiah 8:11
For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
 ]  
 

http://paxchristiusa.org/2013/12/26/world-day-of-peace-pope-francis-message-for-the-world-day-of-peace-january-1/
(http://paxchristiusa1.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/popepeacesmall600.jpg)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/01/pope-francis-cry-for-peace-vatican
Pope Francis tells world to listen to 'cry for peace'
Pontiff uses Vatican new year message to say too many people are indifferent to war, violence and injustice
The Guardian, Wednesday 1 January 2014 11.59 EST

Pope Francis has made an impassioned new year's peace address, saying the heart of humanity seemed to have gone astray and too many people were indifferent to war, violence and injustice.

The pontiff, who took his papal name from St Francis of Assisi, the saint most associated with peace, urged the world to listen to the "cry for peace" from suffering peoples.

"What on earth is happening in the hearts of men? What on earth is happening in the heart of humanity?" he said to tens of thousands of people in St Peter's Square on the day the Roman Catholic Church celebrates its World Day of Peace. "It's time to stop!" he said, departing from his prepared text.

Francis was speaking from the window of the Apostolic Palace overlooking St Peter's Square that popes traditionally use for their addresses.
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Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.

And that goes for televangelists (of any denomination) as well.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: JohnBFTOR on January 01, 2014, 11:33:11 pm
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02657/popequeen_2657382b.jpg)

Ask a rabbi with more than three brain cells in his bean to rub together to tell you (off the record)... 'Why does the pope wear a yamaka?'

Also, why has every tyrant no matter how many people they killed felt it necessary to 'KISS THE RING'.  Yes, even the commies did it..

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on January 02, 2014, 05:17:22 am
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02657/popequeen_2657382b.jpg)

Ask a rabbi with more than three brain cells in his bean to rub together to tell you (off the record)... 'Why does the pope wear a yamaka?'

Also, why has every tyrant no matter how many people they killed felt it necessary to 'KISS THE RING'.  Yes, even the commies did it..



The zucchetto began existence as the Greek pilos and is a descendant of the beret (which itself was originally a large zucchetto). It was adopted circa the Early Middle Ages, if not earlier, to keep clerics' tonsured heads warm. Its name derives from its resemblance to half a pumpkin. Its appearance is almost identical to the Jewish kippah (yarmulke), though its significance is quite different.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: JohnBFTOR on January 02, 2014, 10:02:29 am
The zucchetto began existence as the Greek pilos and is a descendant of the beret (which itself was originally a large zucchetto). It was adopted circa the Early Middle Ages, if not earlier, to keep clerics' tonsured heads warm. Its name derives from its resemblance to half a pumpkin. Its appearance is almost identical to the Jewish kippah (yarmulke), though its significance is quite different.

No, not exactly what I was told.  The pope centuries ago made the wearing of the yam-aka mandatory for jewish rabbis, three separate rabbis told this to me however, they said it off the record because they will never tell their jewish faithful.  Which is another reason you can't 'look it up on line'.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on January 02, 2014, 10:37:08 am
No, not exactly what I was told.  The pope centuries ago made the wearing of the yam-aka mandatory for jewish rabbis, three separate rabbis told this to me however, they said it off the record because they will never tell their jewish faithful.  Which is another reason you can't 'look it up on line'.

Sounds like you've been fed some bullshit ~ IMHO

Kippah, Yarmulke its a big topic. Being truthful Judasim is not one religion, just like Christianity or islam is not one religion, but split into many, many, many fragmented groups. These groups have a nasty human tendency to spread dissinfo and vicious rumours about each other.

I would be careful and take it all with a large sack of salt.

Consider that if you can find an Orthodox of Hasidim Jew who actually practices the covering of the head at all times and ask them, and you should get a religious answer that it is a requirement.

However I am speculating, because it all depends upon whom you ask, as it is still a contentious issue. Some say that the head only needs to be covered during prayer, others argue that it must be covered at all times, and others do not bother at all.


Here is an example for you to consider.

"All Americans are Jews" - which I have been sincerely informed on many, many, many occasions by Muslims.



Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: JohnBFTOR on January 02, 2014, 04:17:13 pm
Sounds like you've been fed some bullshit ~ IMHO

Kippah, Yarmulke its a big topic. Being truthful Judasim is not one religion, just like Christianity or islam is not one religion, but split into many, many, many fragmented groups. These groups have a nasty human tendency to spread dissinfo and vicious rumours about each other.

I would be careful and take it all with a large sack of salt.

Consider that if you can find an Orthodox of Hasidim Jew who actually practices the covering of the head at all times and ask them, and you should get a religious answer that it is a requirement.

However I am speculating, because it all depends upon whom you ask, as it is still a contentious issue. Some say that the head only needs to be covered during prayer, others argue that it must be covered at all times, and others do not bother at all.


Here is an example for you to consider.

"All Americans are Jews" - which I have been sincerely informed on many, many, many occasions by Muslims.





I wouldn't be so quick to take that info and trash it.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on January 02, 2014, 06:41:53 pm
  I can't say much about the Popes philosophy, the last I dug around it sounded good.
  My problem, I don't cotton to corporate religion (my mindset ) it tends to getting in the way of making an honest assessment.
  In the end of it all each man is his own religion, no offense to the beliefs of -anyone.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 27, 2014, 04:33:06 pm
Anti Anti-Christ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhnQ_ESpvuo
Is Barack Obama THE ANTICHRIST? 100% PROOF Is There!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-audience-pope-francis-article-1.1736305
Obama and Pope Francis find common ground discussing income inequality, avoid controversy during papal audience
REUTERS/
Thursday, March 27, 2014, 7:19 AM

Obama has repeatedly praised the pope for his compassion and emphasis on helping the poor, and the meeting could help to give impetus to some of his initiatives back home, such as boosting the middle class and helping low-income Americans succeed.


(http://static3.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1736303.1395918776!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/pope-obama.jpg)

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As he arrived at the Vatican, Obama and his delegation were led past the ceremonial Swiss Guard through a richly frescoed hall before being escorted into a room where he and the pope shook hands warmly.

Since his election a year ago, Pope Francis has several times criticised unbridled capitalism, the excesses laid bare by the global financial crisis, and the growing gap between the rich and poor, even in developed countries.

Obama has repeatedly praised the pope for his compassion and emphasis on helping the poor, and the meeting could help to give impetus to some of his initiatives back home, such as boosting the middle class and helping low-income Americans succeed.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-AMYos0Js
Rev. Wright; God Damn America - Long Version - Obama Preacher Rant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_KF5p57WHE
Black Liberation Theology

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 27, 2014, 05:24:42 pm
Quote
Pope Francis has several times criticised unbridled capitalism, the excesses laid bare by the global financial crisis, and the growing gap between the rich and poor, even in developed countries.

So did MLK.

Was he the "anti-Christ" too?

Or do I misunderstand the point being made.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 27, 2014, 05:49:04 pm
Or do I misunderstand the point being made.

what happens when matter and antimatter  come together ? ...  
(http://cdn0.cosmosmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/20080320_antimatter2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Geolibertarian on March 27, 2014, 05:54:21 pm
what happens when matter and antimatter come together ?

They explode.

Therefore MLK was the anti-Christ?

I still don't follow the logic.

I'm sincerely not trying to be argumentative, here, just trying to understand.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 03, 2014, 01:23:42 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/03/queen-meets-pope-francis-vatican
Queen meets Pope Francis for first time at Vatican

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/4/3/1396539136866/Queen-and-Pope-Francis-at-011.jpg)

Several minutes late after lunch with Italian president, the Queen presents pontiff with a hamper of British food

The Queen has met Pope Francis for the first time at the Vatican, presenting the famously plain-living pontiff with a hamper of British food including honey, cox's apple juice and 12 eggs from the crown estate.

Wearing lilac instead of the black that is usually considered de rigueur when meeting the pope, the Queen was received not in the apostolic palace but in a small papal studio. She appeared relaxed and at ease with the 77-year-old pontiff, arriving with the Duke of Edinburgh for the brief meeting, which lasted under 20 minutes.

It is the Queen's first foreign trip since she went to Australia in 2011, and the first meeting between the supreme governor of the Church of England and the head of the Roman Catholic church since 2010 when the then pope Benedict XVI made a state visit to Britain.

Earlier on Thursday, the Queen and Prince Philip had a private lunch at the presidential palace of the Italian head of state, Giorgio Napolitano. They arrived several minutes late for the papal audience after what the Queen said was "a very pleasant lunch with the president."
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http://www.royal.gov.uk/MonarchUK/QueenandChurch/QueenandtheChurchofEngland.aspx
Queen and the Church of England

The Sovereign holds the title 'Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England'.

There are many examples of the relationship between the established Church and the State.

Archbishops and bishops are appointed by The Queen on the advice of the Prime Minister, who considers the names selected by a Church Commission. They take an oath of allegiance to The Queen on appointment and may not resign without Royal authority.

The connection between Church and State is also symbolised by the fact that the 'Lords Spiritual' (consisting of the Archbishops of Canterbury and York and 24 diocesan bishops) sit in the House of Lords. Parish priests also take an oath of allegiance to The Queen.

The General Synod (including the bishops, elected representatives from the clergy and the laity) is the supreme authority of the Church of England. The Queen opens the Synod after the elections in the dioceses every five years.

http://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/43798/How-Jim-really-did-fix-it

(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/10/x190/43798_3.jpg)

http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-pope-queen-paedophile-ring-of-power.html
The Pope. The Queen. The paedophile ring of power
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Al Bundy on April 03, 2014, 01:31:26 pm
freemasonic bussiniess  >:(
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on April 03, 2014, 01:39:21 pm
freemasonic bussiniess  >:(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595978/Queen-meet-Pope-Francis-time-visit-Vatican-foreign-trip-two-years.html
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/03/article-2595978-1CCE38F600000578-979_640x471.jpg)
The monarch and her husband Prince Philip had a private audience with the pontiff, the fifth she has met, for around 20 minutes. During a formal exchange of gifts the Pope presented the Queen with a lapis lazuli orb (inset), decorated with a silver cross of Edward the Confessor, the 11th Century English King who was made a saint, as a gift for the eight-month-old prince, with an inscription on the base that read 'Pope Francis, to His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge'.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on June 09, 2014, 12:41:57 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/06/08/Islamic-Prayers-Heard-at-Vatican-For-First-Time-as-Pope-Hosts-Israeli-Palestinian-Leaders-For-Interfaith-Prayer
Islamic Prayers at Vatican for First Time as Pope Hosts Interfaith Prayer
by Jordan Schachtel  9 Jun 2014, 8:14 AM PDT

On Sunday, Islamic Prayers and readings from the Quran were heard from the Vatican for the first time in history.

The prayers came as a result of Pope Francis’s request that Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas meet him at the Vatican City to pray amongst each other for peace. Pope Francis hoped that inter-faith dialogue would promote peace between the Israeli and Palestinian people.

What remains unclear is why the Pope decided to invite President Peres instead of Abbas’s head-of-state counterpart, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to attend the prayers at the Vatican.

A representative from the Holy See said Friday that the prayers would be a “pause in politics.” However, skeptics have noted that the very act of bringing Jewish, Christian, and Muslim leaders together to “pray for peace” is a politically-charged move in and of itself.

The event would feature readings from several texts of the monotheistic faiths. The Tanakh (Hebrew scriptures), New Testament, and the Quran would be featured in the ceremonies. Afterwards, Francis, Peres, and Abbas were called upon to read religious verses of their choosing.

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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/06/Islamic-prayers-to-be-held-at-the-Vatican.html
Islamic prayers to be held at the Vatican
Staff writer, Al Arabyia News
 Friday, 6 June 2014

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.

Watch Video: Imam recites Quran for the first time in the Vatican

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/webtv/2014/06/09/Imam-recites-Quran-for-the-first-time-in-the-Vatican.html
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: DAVIDE MTL on June 10, 2014, 08:40:06 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/06/08/Islamic-Prayers-Heard-at-Vatican-For-First-Time-as-Pope-Hosts-Israeli-Palestinian-Leaders-For-Interfaith-Prayer
Islamic Prayers at Vatican for First Time as Pope Hosts Interfaith Prayer
by Jordan Schachtel  9 Jun 2014, 8:14 AM PDT

On Sunday, Islamic Prayers and readings from the Quran were heard from the Vatican for the first time in history.

The prayers came as a result of Pope Francis’s request that Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas meet him at the Vatican City to pray amongst each other for peace. Pope Francis hoped that inter-faith dialogue would promote peace between the Israeli and Palestinian people.

What remains unclear is why the Pope decided to invite President Peres instead of Abbas’s head-of-state counterpart, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to attend the prayers at the Vatican.

A representative from the Holy See said Friday that the prayers would be a “pause in politics.” However, skeptics have noted that the very act of bringing Jewish, Christian, and Muslim leaders together to “pray for peace” is a politically-charged move in and of itself.

The event would feature readings from several texts of the monotheistic faiths. The Tanakh (Hebrew scriptures), New Testament, and the Quran would be featured in the ceremonies. Afterwards, Francis, Peres, and Abbas were called upon to read religious verses of their choosing.

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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/06/Islamic-prayers-to-be-held-at-the-Vatican.html
Islamic prayers to be held at the Vatican
Staff writer, Al Arabyia News
 Friday, 6 June 2014

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.

Watch Video: Imam recites Quran for the first time in the Vatican

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/webtv/2014/06/09/Imam-recites-Quran-for-the-first-time-in-the-Vatican.html

totally disgraceful, if this doesn't show catholics that Francis is indeed an anti pope, nothing will
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on June 10, 2014, 09:53:31 pm
Oh yeah notice it wasn't the other way round , with the pope saying a Christian service in the Mosque !  
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on September 06, 2014, 08:56:03 pm
interesting  this pope being a Jesuit that doesn't believe that there are any Christians except his roman latin ones ...  

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/05/Patriarch-of-Iraqi-Catholic-Church-U-S-Inaction-Against-ISIS-Indirectly-Responsible-for-Turmoil
Patriarch of Iraqi Catholic Church: U.S. Inaction Against ISIS 'Indirectly Responsible' for Turmoil

Patriarch Louis Sako, leader of the Iraqi Christian Chaldean Catholic Church, has attacked the United States as "indirectly responsible" for the plight of Christians in that nation at the hands of the violent jihadist group the Islamic State. In a visit to Beirut to call attention to the ethnic cleansing of Christians in Iraq, Patriarch Sako called for further aid in protecting Iraqi Christians from the jihadist threat.

"[The U.S.] said it would ensure democracy and the well-being of the people. But 10 years have passed, and, on the contrary, we have gone backward," Patriarch Sako said in a statement, according to the Assyrian International News Agency. The religious leader noted that more than half of the Christian population of Iraq has been displaced in the last decade, and only an estimated 400,000 Christians remain in the nation.

Patriarch Sako has had harsh words for the West's response to Islamic State military victories in the past as well, telling reporters in a statement last month that "the West watched us, and it seemed they have ignored our suffering. But we will not leave our land, whatever the sacrifices." In a letter published by Breitbart News in July, Patriarch Sako called for international intervention to save Iraq's Christians, and pled with Muslim leaders to ally with persecuted Christians. "Should this direction continue to be pursued, Iraq will come face to face with human, civil, and historic catastrophe," he warned.

Christians, along with northern Iraq's Yazidi minority, have been ethnically cleansed out of areas controlled by Islamic State fighters. The Islamic State captured the city of Mosul in July, the second largest city in Iraq and home to one of the oldest populations of Christians in the world. Upon seizing the city, Islamic State jihadists demanded Christians give up all their personal belongings, convert to Islam, and pay the jizya, or infidel's tax. Those who refused would be killed, or forced to leave their homes.

It is believed that no Christians remain living in Mosul currently, for the first time since the birth of Christianity. "There is not a single Christian family left in Mosul... The last one was a disabled Christian woman. She stayed because she could not get out," said one Christian Iraqi who managed to escape. "They came to her and said you have to get out and if you don't we will cut off your head with a sword. That was the last family."

Many of those who fled Mosul left with no money or resources with which to find food and water. Many are believed to have fled to non-ISIS controlled areas in the region, though fear an expansion by the jihadist group could force them once again to flee.
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reference:

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=6844

A Jesuit Pope? Understanding The Jesuit Agenda and the Evangelical/Protestant Church

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An Understand the Times/Lighthouse Trails Special Report
(Booklet Form)

According to Bible prophecy, a one-world religion that will offer the promise of peace throughout the world is going to commence prior to Christ’s return. To most, this global body will seem like a wonderful thing and very possibly will be a pseudo-Christianity (coming in the name of “Christ”); however, contrary to how the masses will view it, it will actually help establish and set up the antichrist and his one- world government.

In order for this to happen, all religions must come together in an ecumenical plan. Today, as part of this Satanic scheme, the evangelical/Protestant church is being drawn seductively into the Roman Catholic church, largely through what we call “The Jesuit Agenda.” Incredibly, while the evidence is obvious to some, the majority of proclaiming Christians are not at all aware it is happening.
...


https://archive.org/details/jesuitconspirac00leongoog
SECRET PLAN OF THE JESUITS.

THE JESUIT CONSPIRACY.
THE SECRET PLAN THE ORDER.
DETECTED AND REVEALED BY THE ABBATE LEONE.

...

Visiting Geneva in September, 1846, 1 heard the Secret Plan much talked of, and on all hands I received the most positive assurances of M . Leone's good faith.

Among those to whom he had made complete disclosures — and there were a great number of such persons —
I did not meet with one who was not convinced of the authenticity of the Conference and of the narrator's veracity. Nevertheless it was not until I had had some very serious conversations with men whose perspicacity and good sense it would have been absurd
in me to disregard — men who had long held intercourse  with M. Leone, and frequently heard his manuscript
read — that my incredulity was shaken.
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online here also:

 The Jesuit conspiracy. The secret plan of the order, with a preface by V. Considérant. Jacopo Leone 1848   (http://books.google.com/books?id=5SgEAAAAQAAJ&oe=UTF-8)

see also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppression_of_the_Society_of_Jesus
Suppression of the Society of Jesus

The suppression of the Jesuits in the Portuguese Empire, France, the Two Sicilies, Malta, Parma and the Spanish Empire by 1767 was a result of a series of political moves in each polity rather than a theological controversy.[1] Monarchies attempting to centralize and secularize political power viewed the Jesuits as being too international, too strongly allied to the papacy, and too autonomous from the monarchs in whose territory they operated.[2] By the brief Dominus ac Redemptor (21 July 1773) Pope Clement XIV suppressed the Society of Jesus.

The Jesuits took refuge in non-Catholic nations, particularly in Prussia and Russia, where the order was ignored or formally rejected. The scholarly Jesuit Society of Bollandists moved from Antwerp to Brussels, where they continued their work in the monastery of the Coudenberg; in 1788, the Bollandist Society was suppressed by the Austrian government of the Low Countries.

...

In addition to 1767, the Jesuits were suppressed and banned twice more in Spain, in 1834 and in 1932. Spanish ruler Francisco Franco rescinded the final suppression in 1938.

They were also exiled from Russia in 1820.

...

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14100a.htm
The Jesuits After the Restoration (1814-1912)

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On the Restoration of the Society in 1814 these nineteen fathers constituted the mission of the United States. For a time (1808 to 1817) some of them were employed in the Diocese of New York just erected, Father Anthony Kohlmann administering the diocese temporarily, others engaging in school and parish work. In 1816, Gonzaga College, Washington, D. C., was founded. In 1833, the mission of the United States became a province under the title of Maryland.

Since then the history of the province is a record of development proportionate with the growth in Catholicity in the various fields specially cultivated by the Society. The colleges of the Holy Cross, Worcester (founded in 1843), Loyola College, Baltimore (1852), Boston College (1863) have educated great numbers of young men for the ministry and liberal professions. Up to 1879, members of the Society had been labouring in New York as part of the New York-Canada mission. In that year, they became affiliated with the first American province under the title Maryland-New York. This was added to the old province besides several residences and parishes, the colleges of St. Frances Xavier and St. John (now Fordham University), New York City, and St. Peter's College, Jersey City, New Jersey. St. Joseph's College, Philadelphia, was chartered in 1852, and the Brooklyn College opened in 1908. In the same year, Canisius College, and two parishes in Buffalo, and one parish in Boston for German Catholics, with 88 members of the German province were affiliated with this province, which has now (1912) 863 members with 12 colleges and 13 parishes, 1 house of higher study for the members of the Society, 1 novitiate in the New England and Middle States, and in the Virginias, with the Mission of Jamaica, British West Indies.
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http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=9239

...  a group of nearly four hundred Italian Jesuits who emigrated to the United States after 1848 in the wake of the Italian unification movement. The first wave of exiles taught in Jesuit colleges on the East Coast, where they played a major role in reforming American seminary education.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: iamc2 on September 06, 2014, 09:02:01 pm
 I will say what most will not: "The Pope is a DOPE!"

 The Vatican is Satanic, since its' inception: and Peter was not a Pope & the Vatican is full of BS!

 Jesus Christ would never go to the Satanic Vatican..!
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: DAVIDE MTL on September 07, 2014, 07:35:27 pm
I will say what most will not: "The Pope is a DOPE!"

 The Vatican is Satanic, since its' inception: and Peter was not a Pope & the Vatican is full of BS!

 Jesus Christ would never go to the Satanic Vatican..!
correction

THIS Pope is a dope and he's actually an anti pope..not Catholic..The vatican is now under control by Freemasons....not  from it's inception..that is BS...St Peter was the first Pope as the bible states , to deny this is to deny the bible..you should do more study on this subject
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: jerryweaver on September 07, 2014, 08:34:44 pm

correction

THIS Pope is a dope and he's actually an anti pope..not Catholic..The vatican is now under control by Freemasons....not  from it's inception..that is BS...St Peter was the first Pope as the bible states , to deny this is to deny the bible..you should do more study on this subject

Curiosity begs the question:  What have you found on the subject of Freemasonry and the Catholicism, DAVIDE MTL ?   The internet has only 14.5 trillion pages , so, save us a bit of time and give a clue, eh? 
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: DAVIDE MTL on September 07, 2014, 09:04:43 pm
Curiosity begs the question:  What have you found on the subject of Freemasonry and the Catholicism, DAVIDE MTL ?   The internet has only 14.5 trillion pages , so, save us a bit of time and give a clue, eh?

sure thing

Pope Leo XIII,
Dall’Alto
(# 2), Oct. 15, 1890: “It is needless now to put the Masonic sects upon their trial . They are already judged; their ends
, their means, their doctrines, and their action, are all known with indisputable certainty. Possessed by the spirit of Satan,
whose instrument they are, they burn like him with a deadly and implacable hatred of Jesus Christ and of His work; and they endeavor by every means to overthrow and fetter it .” 1
It’s a well known fact that Communists and Freemasons made organized efforts to infiltrate the
Catholic Church. They sent large numbers of their own men into the priesthood hoping to
weaken and attack her by moving these men to high positions.
Mrs. Bella Dodd spent most of her life in th
e Communist Party of America and was Attorney
General designate had the Party won the White House.
After her defection, she revealed that one
of her jobs as a Communist agent was to encourage young radicals (not always card-carrying
Communists) to enter Catholic seminaries. She said
that before she had left the Party in the U.S.
she had encouraged almost 1,000 young radicals to
infiltrate the seminaries and religious orders;
she was only one Communist.
Brother Joseph Natale, the founder of Most Holy
Family Monastery, was present at one of Bella
Dodd’s lectures in the early 1950’s. He stated:“I listened to that woman for four hours and she had my hair standing on end. Everything she said has been fulfilled to the letter. You would think she was the world’s greatest prophet, but she was no prophet. She was merely exposing the step-by-step battle plan of Communist subversion of the Catholic Church. She explained that of all the world’s religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists,for it was its only effective opponent."Bella Dodd converted to Catholicism at the end of
her life. Speaking as an ex-Communist, she
said: “
In the 1930’s, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the
Church from within
.” The idea was for these men to be ordained, and then climb the ladder of
influence and authority as monsignors and bishops. Back then, she said: “Right now they are in
the highest places in the Church. They are working to bring about change in order that the
Catholic Church would not be effective against Communism.” She also said that these changes
would be so drastic that “you will not recognize the Catholic Church.” (This was 10 to 12 years
before Vatican II.)Brother Joseph went on relating what Bella Dodd had said: “The whole idea was to destroy, not
the institution of the Church, but rather the Faith of the people, and even use the institution of
the Church, if possible, to destroy the Faith through the promotion of a pseudo-religion:
Communists and Freemasons planned to infiltrate the Church

something that resembled Catholicism but was not the real thing. Once the Faith was destroyed,
she explained that there would be a guilt complex introduced into the Church... to label the
‘Church of the past’ as being oppressive, authoritarian, full of predjudices, arrogant in claiming
to be the sole possessor of truth, and responsible for the divisions of religious bodies throughout
the centuries. This would be necessary in order to shame Church leaders into an ‘openness to the
world,’ and to a more flexible attitude toward all religions and philosophies. The Communists
would then exploit this openness in order to undermine the Church.”
4
Freemasons made similar attempts to infiltrate the Catholic Church
and elevate their own to the highest levels. The Luciferian secret society, the Carbonari, known as the
Alta Vendita , wrote a set of Permanent Instructions , or Code of Rules, which appeared in Italy in 1818. It stated:
“...It becomes the duty of the secret societies to make the first advance to the Church,
and to the pope, with the object of conquering both. The work for which we gird ourselves is not the work of a day, nor of a month, nor a year. It may last for many years,perhaps a century...What we must ask for, what we should look for and wait for, as the Jews wait for the Messiah, is a pope according to our wants . We require a pope for
ourselves, if such a pope were possible. With such a one we shall march more securely to
the storming of the Church, than with all the little books of our French and English brothers.”
5
The same Freemasonic document made this striking prediction:“In a hundred years time...
bishops and priests will think they are marching behind the banner of the keys of Peter, when in fact they will be following our flag ... The
reforms will have to be brought about in the name of obedience.”
6
These organizations and the individuals who belong to them are agents which the Devil uses to attack the true Church of Christ.
Ephesians 6:12- “For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers
of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in high places.”
On April 3, 1844, a leader of the
AltaVendita named Nubius wrote a letter to another highly-placed mason.
The letter spoke again about the plan to infiltrate the Catholic Church, and the
attempt to insert a masonic “pope,” who would promote the religion of Freemasonry. “Now
then, in order to ensure a pope in the required proportions, we must first of all prepare a
generation worthy of the kingdom of which we dream...Let the clergy move forward under
your banner (the masonic banner) always believing they are advancing under the banner of
the apostolic keys . Cast your net like Simon Bar Jonas; spread it to the bottom of sacristies,
seminaries, and convents ... You will have finish ed a revolution dressed in the pope’s triple
crown and cape, carrying the cross and the flag, a revolution that will need only a small stimulus
to set fire to the four corners of the earth.”
7
Freemason Eliph Levi said in 1862: “
A day will come when the pope... will declare that all the excommunications are lifted and all the anathemas are retracted
, when all the Christians will be united within the Church, when the Jews and Mosl
ems will be blessed and called back to her . . .she will permit all sects to approach her by degrees and will embrace all mankind in the communion of her love and prayers. Then, Protestants will no longer exist. Against what will
Communists and Freemasons planned to infiltrate the Church 39
they be able to protest? The sovereign pontiff will then be truly king of the religious world, and
he will do whatever he wishes with all the nations of the earth.”
8
An apostate priest and former canon-lawyer,named Fr. Roca (1830-1893), after being
excommunicated said: “The papacy will fall; it will die under the hallowed knife which the
fathers of the last council will forge.”
Roca also said: “You must have a new dogma, a new religion, a new ministry, and new rituals that very closely resemble those of the surrendered Church. The divine cult directed by the liturgy,
ceremonial, ritual and regulations of the Roman Catholic Church will shortly under go transformation at an ecumenical Council.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: jerryweaver on September 07, 2014, 09:41:17 pm
Thanks for the response DAVIDE MTL.  I have heard of Bella Dodd

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/bella_dodd_school_of_darkness.htm

This Father Jack Ashcroft has visited this forum and agrees with your assessment FWIW.

Freemasons Love Francis and Vatican II

http://www.trueexorcist.com/

http://www.trueexorcist.com/2014/07/freemasons-love-francis-and-vatican-ii.html
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: DAVIDE MTL on September 08, 2014, 08:03:26 pm
Thanks for the response DAVIDE MTL.  I have heard of Bella Dodd

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/bella_dodd_school_of_darkness.htm

This Father Jack Ashcroft has visited this forum and agrees with your assessment FWIW.

Freemasons Love Francis and Vatican II

http://www.trueexorcist.com/

http://www.trueexorcist.com/2014/07/freemasons-love-francis-and-vatican-ii.html
thanks for the website..seems interesting..if he has posted here before I'd be interested in knowing under what name.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 08, 2014, 12:01:56 pm
One world Christians? A Jesuit speaks of divisions ?!? wow  no sh_t Sherlock - (millions dead over the schism fyi )

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/10/08/Pope-Francis-The-Devil-Works-to-Divide-Christians
Pope Francis: The Devil Works to Divide Christians

Divisions among Christians “hurt the Church and they wound Christ,” Pope Francis said to tens of thousands of visitors gathered in Saint Peter’s Square Wednesday morning.

During her journey through history, “the Church is tempted by the devil who tries to divide it,” the Pope said, and unfortunately, “she has been marred by serious and painful divisions.”

Francis devoted his “general audience” to the issue of the unity of Christians, urging his listeners to take an active part in healing the wounds that still separate them.
...
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Outer Haven on October 09, 2014, 03:31:45 am
The fact that the sewer-stream media was behind this guy from day one is all you need to know.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 09, 2014, 10:38:38 am
I will say the Pope seems to be slowly cleaning house - I don't think this was an accident ... but how many other paedo's are left at the Vatican ? ... this guy was using the diplomatic pouch of the Vatican to distribute the filth ...

(http://cdn4.eldia.com.do/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/8_Nacionales_26_1p01-730x428.jpg)
Archibishop' Jozef Wesolowski

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vatican-child-porn-found-paedo-archibishop-jozef-wesolowski-investigation-1467124
Vatican: Child Porn Found in 'Paedo Archibishop' Jozef Wesolowski Investigation

By Umberto Bacchi
September 25, 2014 10:47 BST

Child pornography was found by Vatican detectives investigating a former archbishop arrested ahead of an unprecedented criminal trial for paedophilia at the Holy See.

Vatican spokesman father Federico Lombardi said that the additional charge of child porn possession has been filed against Jozef Wesolowski, a 66-year-old accused of sexually abusing underage boys while serving as Holy See envoy to the Dominican Republic.

Investigators are also probing whether the former clergyman committed abuses during his numerous previous posts around the world, Lombardi said.

Before arriving in Santo Domingo in 2008, Wesolowski served as apostolic nuncio in Bolivia and Central Asia - covering Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kirghizstan and Uzbekistan - after holding less prominent roles in Southern African, Costa Rica, Japan , Switzerland, India and Denmark.
...
Wesolowski was held earlier this week in what was the first-ever arrest of its kind inside the Vatican.
He was recalled to Rome last year, after Dominican media alleged he hired "rent boys" and was subsequently banished from the clergy, after a canonical court found him guilty of sex abuse.
Wesolowski was the highest-ranking Vatican official ever to be investigated for sex abuse, and the first top papal representative to receive a defrocking sentence.
The criminal trial against him is expected to start by January and Lombardi suggested he might face up to seven years in the Vatican's tiny jail.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1034645/pg1
Vatican Pedophilia Scandal: Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski Stored Over 100,000 Child Porn Videos

A former Vatican archbishop accused of paedophilia stored tens of thousands of child porn videos and photos on a computer in his office at the Holy See diplomatic compound in the Dominican Republic, it has emerged.

 Details of Jozef Wesolowski's massive child porn stash have been revealed after the 66-year-old was arrested at the Vatican earlier this week.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Outer Haven on October 14, 2014, 11:23:56 pm
Quote
So torture, inquisitions and stake burning was the answer?
Yeah. Back then, witches (satanists) were burned at the stake. Now they're in control...
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on October 29, 2014, 10:40:21 am
So will the pope exorcise the Vatican?  

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/10/28/Pope-Blesses-Work-of-Exorcists
Pope Blesses Work of Exorcists
Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.  28 Oct 2014

According to Pope Francis, priests devoted to the ministry of exorcism “manifest the Church’s love and acceptance of those who suffer because of the devil’s works.”

Francis wrote these words in a message addressed to Father Francesco Bamonte, the president of the International Association of Exorcists, which is holding a convention in Rome this week. Vatican Radio has reported that more than 300 exorcists from around the world have participated.
...
“Yes, the devil exists, the devil exists,” the Pope repeated, “even in the 21st century!”
...

This was the first conference to be held by the International Association of Exorcists since the Vatican formally approved its statutes this past June 13.
...
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Geolibertarian on October 29, 2014, 11:30:02 am
This whole planet needs an exorcism.

If beings from other worlds do visit here, it's probably only because they like to "watch" us for the same reason why we like to watch horror films like Saw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_(franchise)).
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on January 02, 2015, 02:34:20 pm
this is what the fish head hat jesuit pope has to say about the state of the world  Global Warming !!!....

(http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/lvl120131014124033.jpg)
Syrian ISIS Head Cutters
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/27/pope-francis-edict-climate-change-us-rightwing
Pope Francis’s edict on climate change

..
It looks as if he will give it a go. In 2015, the pope will issue a lengthy message on the subject to the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics, give an address to the UN general assembly and call a summit of the world’s main religions.
...
“The monopolising of lands, deforestation, the appropriation of water, inadequate agro-toxics are some of the evils that tear man from the land of his birth. Climate change, the loss of biodiversity and deforestation are already showing their devastating effects in the great cataclysms we witness,” he said.
...
Dan Misleh, director of the Catholic climate covenant, said: “There will always be 5-10% of people who will take offence. They are very vocal and have political clout. This encyclical will threaten some people and bring joy to others. The arguments are around economics and science rather than morality.

“A papal encyclical is rare. It is among the highest levels of a pope’s authority. It will be 50 to 60 pages long; it’s a big deal. But there is a contingent of Catholics here who say he should not be getting involved in political issues, that he is outside his expertise.”

Francis will also be opposed by the powerful US evangelical movement, said Calvin Beisner, spokesman for the conservative Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation, which has declared the US environmental movement to be “un-biblical” and a false religion.


“The pope should back off,” he said. “The Catholic church is correct on the ethical principles but has been misled on the science. It follows that the policies the Vatican is promoting are incorrect. Our position reflects the views of millions of evangelical Christians in the US.”
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on January 18, 2015, 09:06:17 pm
The Philippines love that pope ...
six million cokes please ...


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30869019
Pope Francis in Manila: Six million attend outdoor Mass
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/80345000/jpg/_80345991_80345940.jpg)
...
Six million people attended the ceremony or lined the Papal route to Rizal Park, city officials estimate.

That would be a record for a papal event. About five million welcomed Pope John Paul II in Manila in 1995.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: iamc2 on January 19, 2015, 01:14:58 am
With a mob like that?

The world is getting ripe for The Anti-Christ to pick his own from the tree of humanity!
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on January 19, 2015, 04:57:18 am
Last thing I heard on the news was the Pope was criticizing population control, speaking out against the Malthusian agenda.

Sometimes he speaks in our interests, sometimes he does not.
On the forum people have a tendency to selectively take one set of quotes, which prove he is on one side, and ignore the other set of quotes that prove he is on the other side.

Perhaps he is on his own side, and has his own agenda.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on February 05, 2015, 03:18:56 pm
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/02/05/384065953/pope-francis-to-address-congress-during-u-s-trip-boehner-says
Pope Francis To Address Congress During U.S. Trip, Boehner Says
 February 05, 201512:29 PM ET

Pope Francis will be the first pontiff to address a joint meeting of Congress, House Speaker John Boehner said Thursday.

Francis will address lawmakers on Sept. 24, Boehner said, as part of his first papal visit to the United States.

"We're humbled that the Holy Father has accepted our invitation and certainly look forward to receiving his message on behalf of the American people," the Ohio Republican told reporters.

In addition to his trip to Capitol Hill, Francis plans to travel to Philadelphia for the World Meeting of Families as well as to New York to visit the United Nations.

Roughly one-third of the members of Congress are Catholic, according to the Pew Research Center. Both leaders of the House of Representatives, Boehner and Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, are Catholic.

Pelosi said in a statement, "We are eager to welcome His Holiness to the U.S. Capitol and we look forward to hearing his call to live our values, to protect the poor and the needy, and to promote peace."
...

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/pope-address-us-congress-114939.html
Pope will address Congress in September

It will be the first time the head of the Roman Catholic Church has addressed a joint session.

By Jake Sherman
  | 2/5/15 11:35 AM EST
  | Updated 2/5/15 1:49 PM EST
 
Pope Francis will address a joint session of Congress on Sept. 24, the first time the head of the Roman Catholic Church will have addressed the body.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), himself a Catholic, made the announcement Thursday morning.
...

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/pope-address-us-congress-114939.html#ixzz3QuLZSF3z
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: CheneysWorstNightmare on February 05, 2015, 03:46:03 pm
This pope looks like he is definitely going to be the last pope as prophesied.

He is a Jesuit who believes in the Jesuit revolution philosophy that infested Central and South America with cultural Marxism.

I fully expect him to announce that the Vatican's LUCIFER telescope has found life of ETs of one form or another. 

Tom Horn covers this stuff in detail and in his books. 

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 17, 2015, 02:56:39 pm
St patricks day not on Drudge ...


http://www.latintimes.com/saint-patricks-day-and-pope-8-papal-tales-drinking-irish-immigrant-and-more-303066'
Saint Patrick's Day And The Pope: 8 Papal Tales Of Drinking, An Irish Immigrant, And More

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/mass-knights-say-smear-campaign-forced-them-out-of-saint-patricks-parade-70693/
'Smear campaign' pushed Knights out of St Patrick's parade

Boston, Mass., Mar 16, 2015 / 01:58 pm (CNA).- The Massachusetts Knights of Columbus withdrew from the St. Patrick’s Day Parade in Boston on Sunday, saying that their motives for participating in the parade - which this year included a gay activist group - have been misrepresented.

...

C.J. Doyle, executive director of Boston’s “Catholic Action League,” alleged that the Knights were acting “treacherously” and that their actions were actually “helping (the activist group) spread their message.”

Doyle said that the Knights were colluding to give cover to the parade’s organizers and Boston’s mayor for the parade’s inclusion of a homosexual advocacy group. He pointed to the fact that the mayor’s hometown of Dorchester was also the town in which the Massachusetts leader of the Knights of Columbus resided.

 But CNA’s source said that the allegations were false and that the Knights had not been contacted about the situation or asked for clarification.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 17, 2015, 03:27:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-tCkgeCBU
St Patrick's Day Dublin 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unjaOaRExJM
St. Patrick's Day (March 17, 2015) Temple Bar, Dublin, Ireland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oDkvwv4qgA
Happy St Patrick's Day 2015: Dublin, preparando la fiesta
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: chris jones on March 17, 2015, 03:41:54 pm
  Happy St. Patty's day.

The Papals visit......

 The Pope, open up the vaults, why the secrets?
 And they say secretive oragnizations are frowned upon.........Throwing stones/ glass houses.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 22, 2015, 12:59:03 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11488383/They-are-going-to-eat-him-nuns-stun-Pope.html
'They are going to eat him!': nuns stun Pope

Pope Francis is mobbed in Naples by a superfluity of overexcited nuns
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03241/pope-naples-nuns_3241232b.jpg)
By Andrea Vogt, Bologna
12:06PM GMT 22 Mar 2015

Pope Francis was mobbed by a group of overexcited nuns, let out from their convents during his visit to Naples.
...
The pope was holding an event in Naples cathedral to meet priests, religious leaders and seminarians in the Naples cathedral on his one-day visit to the city.

He also toured some of Naples' poorest, most crime-infested quarters, the heartlands of the city's mafia.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on March 29, 2015, 04:41:26 pm
Palm Sunday Pope ---- Jesus enters Jerusalem for the Last Supper ....

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-palm-sunday-pays-tribute-todays-martyrs-094813109.html
Pope, on Palm Sunday, pays tribute to "today's martyrs"
ReutersBy By Philip Pullella | Reuters – 11 hours ago.
By Philip Pullella

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis led the world's Roman Catholics in Palm Sunday celebrations by paying tribute to those killed for their faith, a reference to the victims of Islamic State militants.

Francis, who earlier this month began the third year of his papacy, presided at a colourful procession in St. Peter's Square commemorating the day the Bible says people of Jerusalem welcomed Jesus days before he was crucified.

Thousands of people, including the 78-year-old Argentine pope and prelates dressed in red vestments, carried palm fronds and branches in St. Peter's Square on the day that marks the start of Holy Week, which ends on Easter Sunday.

In his homily during the Mass that followed, Francis, who last month denounced the killing of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians by Islamic State militants in Libya, paid tribute to those he said were being killed for their faith today.

"We think too of the humiliation endured by all those who, for their lives of fidelity to the Gospel, encounter discrimination and pay a personal price," he said, speaking in Italian.


http://www.lectionarypage.net/YearA_RCL/HolyWk/APalmSun_RCL.html
Matthew 21:1-11

When Jesus and his disciples had come near Jerusalem and had reached Bethphage, at the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two disciples, saying to them, "Go into the village ahead of you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to me
. If anyone says anything to you, just say this, `The Lord needs them.' And he will send them immediately." This took place to fulfill what had been spoken through the prophet, saying,

"Tell the daughter of Zion,
 Look, your king is coming to you,
 humble, and mounted on a donkey,
 and on a colt, the foal of a donkey."

The disciples went and did as Jesus had directed them; they brought the donkey and the colt, and put their cloaks on them, and he sat on them. A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, and others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. The crowds that went ahead of him and that followed were shouting,
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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Outer Haven on April 06, 2015, 03:19:47 am
Last thing I heard on the news was the Pope was criticizing population control, speaking out against the Malthusian agenda.

Sometimes he speaks in our interests, sometimes he does not.
On the forum people have a tendency to selectively take one set of quotes, which prove he is on one side, and ignore the other set of quotes that prove he is on the other side.

Perhaps he is on his own side, and has his own agenda.
You know, one thing I've learned is there are only 2 factions in the Infowar: the Establishment, and then everybody else. And it's pretty clear where he stands... Not to mention, he's not even a pope, to begin with...
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 03, 2015, 12:27:24 pm
playing catch up with the news ... A Come to Jesus er Derr Pope with Agenda21 ....

back in 2011:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/25/the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/
The Vatican Calls for World Government


NOW IN 2015:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/item/21092-pope-s-environmental-encyclical-calls-for-world-government
Friday, 19 June 2015   
Pope's Environmental Encyclical Calls for World Government

Pope Francis has finally released his long anticipated encyclical on the environment to both worldwide acclaim and condemnation. Environmentalists praise it as a death knell for fossil fuels and the herald of a new age of green ethics. Climate realists call it an emotional screed — an unfortunate and unprecedented public relations boost for irrational global warming alarmism and politicized, atheistic UN climate policies. Joseph Kurtz, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, told The Guardian that the encyclical sums up "our marching orders for advocacy," while Republican presidential contenders Jeb Bush and Rick Santorum, both Catholic, have come out strongly against the pope on climate change.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on July 03, 2015, 12:40:35 pm
Of course one very large demographic group totally ignores The Pope. .. . drum roll . . . That group are commonly called catholics. Why its almost two religions, the layity being one and the Rome being the other one.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 07, 2015, 12:36:02 pm
The thing  to keep in mind about the Vatican and the pope ....

It's a political power  AND
It's a financial power 


Then and only then is it a religious power
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on July 07, 2015, 12:48:10 pm
For the record, I'm non denominational, meaning I am not Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox.
Most of all I'm non-authoritarian.

Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: iamc2 on July 07, 2015, 08:55:39 pm
For the record, I'm non denominational, meaning I am not Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox.
Most of all I'm non-authoritarian.
I like it mate: as I fall into the same category: I just Believe in Jesus Christ! and that is all I need to know  ;)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: Geniocrat on July 07, 2015, 10:40:51 pm
Can we really trust anything coming out of the Vatican ?  That's were most of the Homo Capensi (Capensis plural) are hiding ?

The Pope writes an Encyclical on Global Warming much like many globalist traitors have ?  With carbon taxes Homo Sapien exploitation the answer ?

Alex needs to get Karen Hudes on ?
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on July 08, 2015, 03:45:16 am
Note to self keep out of debates on politics and religion. Maybe start a comedy thread starting with jokes on irony

Yea on the one hand we have the Catholics and the other the Protestants

(a) Catholic church and how it got infiltrated by pagan's etc extensively documented on the forum

(b) Protestants an operation founded by the Rosicrucians on a mission to destroy the Catholic church because of the destruction of the Knights Templar.

I'm really fed up that its one sided Catholic bashing round here. Say anything and I get called a "Jesuit Agent", its really frustrating.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 08, 2015, 10:18:34 am
interesting link to back up your post: http://watch.pair.com/reformation.html

this thread is not about your faith ... it's about what the pope's up to now ...

http://watch.pair.com/#intro
Watchmen on the Wall

Presently there are many ministries which intercede for the United States and for the nations of the world. No serious Christian can doubt that evil men have come to power in the world, whose purpose is to overthrow free forms of government and to suppress the Gospel of Jesus Christ. However, few Christians seem to be aware that this same anti-Christ network has infiltrated the Church with a hidden agenda of subverting the true faith and converting believers to their false religious system.
....
Today, the New Age Movement and other elements of the New World Order have infiltrated the Bible-believing churches and are posing as Christian ministries. According to New Age author, Jeremy Rifkin, their expressed goal is to use the Evangelical Church as the primary instrument to bring the New World Order with its One World Religion to birth.  As a result of this conspiracy, many sincere Christians are being led into deception by the abundance of false teachers and prophets on the Christian scene and organizations that have the appearance of doing good works, but are apostate in their doctrine and practice.


Yea on the one hand we have the Catholics and the other the Protestants

(a) Catholic church and how it got infiltrated by pagan's etc extensively documented on the forum

(b) Protestants an operation founded by the Rosicrucians on a mission to destroy the Catholic church because of the destruction of the Knights Templar.

I'm really fed up that its one sided Catholic bashing round here. Say anything and I get called a "Jesuit Agent", its really frustrating.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 08, 2015, 10:22:38 am
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/28/us-pope-orthodox-idUSKCN0P80KU20150628
Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:35am EDT
Related:  World,  Russia,  Papacy in Transition 

Historic meeting of pope and Russian Orthodox head seen nearer

An historic meeting between Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill of the Russian Orthodox Church is "getting closer every day," a senior Orthodox prelate said in an interview published on Sunday.

The unprecedented meeting would be a significant step towards healing the 1,000-year-old rift between the Western and Eastern branches of Christianity, which split in the Great Schism of 1054.

"Now such a meeting is getting closer every day but it must be well prepared," Metropolitan Hilarion, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church's foreign relations department, said in an interview with Italy's Corriere della Sera newspaper.

He said the meeting between the head of the 1.2 billion member Roman Catholic Church and the head of Russian Orthodox Church - which counts some 165 million of the world's 250 million Orthodox Christians - would take place in a "neutral" country, not in Moscow or the Vatican. Austria or Hungary were possibilities, he said.

Hilarion, one of the most influential people in world Orthodoxy, said he could not say if the meeting could take place as early as this year, but there was currently "a good dynamic" between the two Churches.
 
Francis told reporters on the plane returning from a trip to Turkey last year that he had sent word to Kirill that he was willing to meet the Russian patriarch "wherever you want, you call me and I'll come".

The Russian Orthodox Church has accused Catholics of using their new freedoms of religion following the break-up of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s to try to convert people from the Orthodox, a charge the Vatican has denied.

One of the biggest bones of contention is the fate of many church properties that Soviet dictator Josef Stalin confiscated from Eastern Rite Catholics, who worship in an Orthodox rite but owe their allegiance to Rome.
 
Stalin gave the property to the Russian Orthodox Church but after the fall of communism, Eastern Rite Catholics took back many church properties, mostly in western Ukraine.


(Reporting by Philip Pullella; Editing by Rosalind Russell)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 08, 2015, 11:08:27 am
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/07/08/pope-wraps-ecuador-leg-south-america-trip-after-calling-for-new-ecological/
Pope wraps Ecuador leg of South America trip after calling for new ecological, economic order

Published July 08, 2015
·Associated Press

QUITO, Ecuador –  Pope Francis wraps up the first leg of a three-nation South American pilgrimage Wednesday after issuing an impassioned call for a new economic and ecological world order where the goods of the Earth are shared by everyone, not just exploited by the rich.
/....


Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: larsonstdoc on July 08, 2015, 11:17:35 am
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/07/08/pope-wraps-ecuador-leg-south-america-trip-after-calling-for-new-ecological/
Pope wraps Ecuador leg of South America trip after calling for new ecological, economic order

Published July 08, 2015
·Associated Press

QUITO, Ecuador –  Pope Francis wraps up the first leg of a three-nation South American pilgrimage Wednesday after issuing an impassioned call for a new economic and ecological world order where the goods of the Earth are shared by everyone, not just exploited by the rich.
/....

  This is The Pipe Dream of the Year.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: EvadingGrid on July 08, 2015, 12:03:53 pm
interesting link to back up your post: http://watch.pair.com/reformation.html

this thread is not about your faith ... it's about what the pope's up to now ...


Very, very, good find TahoeBlue.


While I'm here on this thread and the topic is The Pope I would just like to float this idea :

The Vatican is complex, its not "one thing" it is Federal . . . its made up of power blocks that each struggle with each other. Unfortunately most people focus on the Pope. To give an analogy, that would be think that President Obama is a divine monarch, and that Congress, The House of Representatives and the 50 odd States, The Supreme Court etc . . .  Don't exist.

In a similar manner the Catholic Church is a complex beast made up of all sorts of little empires, which compete for power, and much like the Republicans and Democrats then place a figurehead puppet as "President", the Church places a figurehead as Pope.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 10, 2015, 11:06:16 am
http://apnews.myway.com/image/20150709/159918724722-ADDITION_Bolivia__Pope_South_America_20150709.html?date=20150709&docid=lt--pope-communist_crucifix-f025b21fae

(http://www.buenosairesherald.com/files/imagenes//201507/193580_09_233109.jpg)

Bolivian President Evo Morales presents Pope Francis with a crucifix carved into a wooden hammer and sickle, in La Paz, Bolivia, Wednesday, July 8, 2015. The crucifix is a replica, originally designed by Jesuit activist Luis Espinal, who was assassinated in 1980 by suspected paramilitaries during the months that preceded a military coup. Even though the Vatican was not expecting the unusual gift, it is seeking to explain the "Communist crucifix" given to Francis, saying it's a symbol of dialogue and not an offensive melding of faith and ideology. (L'Osservatore Romano/Pool Photo via AP)
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 13, 2015, 01:18:49 pm
Not offended !!!  Hammer the people and the sickle represents the red terror , the culling all dissenters!!!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_COMMUNIST_CRUCIFIX?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-07-13-10-01-45
Jul 13, 10:59 AM EDT
Pope says he wasn't offended by 'Communist crucifix'
By NICOLE WINFIELD
Associated Press

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (AP) -- Pope Francis says he wasn't offended by the "Communist crucifix" given to him by Bolivian President Evo Morales during his South American pilgrimage.
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on July 17, 2015, 07:28:05 pm
Jesuit Jerry Brown to meet Jesuit Pope and cut California Gas use by 50 percent by Dictate 

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/California-Gov-Jerry-Brown-to-Meet-With-Pope-on-Climate-Change-313316311.html
California Gov. Jerry Brown to Meet With Pope on Climate Change
By  Associated Press
Updated at 12:49 PM PDT on Friday, Jul 10, 2015
Published at 11:18 AM PDT on Jul 10, 2015

California Gov. Jerry Brown announced Thursday that he will travel to Vatican City later this month to discuss climate change and modern slavery with dignitaries including Pope Francis as the governor seeks to burnish his legacy as a climate change activist.

Brown, a former Jesuit seminarian, plans to attend a two-day event starting July 21 hosted by the Pontifical Academies of Sciences and Social Sciences.

The focus is on two issues highlighted in the pope's recent teaching document, called an encyclical, in which he chastised international lawmakers for failing to adopt effective, long-term policies that would protect the environment and help those who suffer most from global warming.
...

It comes on the heels of his address this week to the Climate Summit of the Americas in Toronto, Canada, where he warned that the world is on a collision course with fossil fuels, and is part of a broader effort by Brown in his final term as governor to be lead on reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

A Brown-sponsored bill pending in the state Legislature would set what the administration calls the most aggressive carbon reduction benchmark in North America. California aims to boost statewide renewable electricity use to 50 percent, have drivers use half as much gasoline and make buildings twice as efficient under the proposal.
...

The Vatican event will be attended by the pope, representatives of the United Nations and mayors and governors from around the world, the governor's office said.

The meeting of local and regional officials comes as national governments attempt to reach an agreement to reduce emissions before they gather in Paris for the United Nations Climate Change Conference in December.

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http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/07/16/gov-brown-talks-to-cbs2-about-bill-that-would-mandate-reduction-in-gas-usage/
Gov. Brown Talks To KCAL9 About Bill That Would Mandate Reduction In Gas Usage
July 16, 2015 10:26 PM

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com)  — As Gov. Jerry Brown prepares to travel to Rome next week for an international climate conference, the debate over a bill aimed at reducing gas usage in California is heating up.

Brown fully supports SB-350, which would mandate a 50-percent cutback in California’s gas usage in the next 15 years, arguing that it’s a prime factor in global warming.

...
“We think this is reckless legislation and one that people certainly need to be aware of because it’ll impact every single motorist in the state of California,” Tupper Hull of the Western States Petroleum Association said via Skype.

Critics charge the bill provides no specific plan to achieve the massive cutback in gas usage. That would be left up to the California Air Resources Board, which those critics, like the oil industry say, would have no limits on what it could mandate.

...

The bill appears to be well on its way to passage having already cleared the state Senate and some Assembly committees, but the debate over how to cut in half California’s dependency on gas by 2030 is possibly just beginning.
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Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 07, 2015, 12:30:56 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/17/pope-francis-appoints-population-control-extremist-to-vatican-post/
Pope Francis Appoints Population Control Extremist to Vatican Post
A scientist who believes the world is overpopulated by 6 billion people has been appointed by Pope Francis to the Pontifical Academy of Science.
by Austin Ruse 17 Jun 2015

The Holy See Press office made the announcement today that besides being one of four official presenters of the Pope’s controversial encyclical on the environment Thursday in Vatican City, Hans Joachim Schellnhuber is to join 80 other scientists who are official advisers to the Vatican on scientific matters.

As Breitbart News reported last week, Schellnhuber said in a 2009 speech at the Copenhagen Climate Conference that global warming would devastate Earth’s population and “In a very cynical way, it’s a triumph for science because at last we have stabilized something — namely the estimates for the carrying capacity of the planet, namely below 1 billion people.”

...

nothin' like that "ol' time religion
... and the millions of aborted babies don't count.

Understand that the Jesuits wish to see a failure of the Protestant experiment (the USA fyi) and do love burning at the stake of the heretics.
Nothing  like having a Jesuit Pope ...


http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2528221
Obama to Planned Parenthood: 'You're making me blush'...

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/26/obama-first-sitting-president-to-address-planned-parenthood/
First sitting president to address mega abortion provider...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-largest-abortion-provider-god-bless-you_719216.html
'God Bless You'...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Ann_Richards.jpg/220px-Ann_Richards.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecile_Richards
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Cecile_Richards_2011_Shankbone_2.JPG/220px-Cecile_Richards_2011_Shankbone_2.JPG)

Cecile Richards (born 1958)[1] is an American activist and has been the president of Planned Parenthood since early 2006. She is a member of the Democratic Party.[2]

Richards previously founded and served as president of America Votes, a coalition of national Democratic Party-affiliated organizations.[3] Before that, she was deputy chief of staff to the U.S. Representative Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Leader in the U.S. House of Representatives.[4] She has also worked at the Turner Foundation.[5]

married to Kirk Adams, a labor organizer with the Service Employees International Union

http://www.turnerfoundation.org/
(http://www.mygen.com/images/turnerfoundation.a.jpg)


http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/planned-parenthood-abortion-numbers-rise-other-services-fall/
Planned Parenthood abortion numbers rise, other services fall
 By Adelaide Darling

Washington D.C., Jan 13, 2013 / 04:01 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- A Planned Parenthood report showing an increase in abortions and decrease in other health services is leading to questions over the federal funding that the organization receives.
 
“While government subsidies to Planned Parenthood have reached an all time high,” Marjoirie Dannenfelser, president of the Susan B. Anthony List said in a Jan. 7 statement, “so too has the number of lives ended by this profit-driven abortion business.”
 
Destroying nearly one million children in three years is not health care and does not reflect a concern for vulnerable women and girls,” she added. “As Planned Parenthood’s funding goes up, abortions increase and real health services for women go down.”
 
The largest provider of abortions in the U.S., Planned Parenthood faced staunch opposition in 2012, with several states working to limit its funding and numerous lawsuits launched across the country on charges of fraud, extortion and failure to report malpractice.
 
The organization recently released its 2011-2012 annual report, which showed a rise in the number of abortions performed for the first time in two decades, as well as a record amount of government funding.
 
The report indicated that Planned Parenthood performed a record-high 333,964 abortions during 2011.
 

http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/abortions-comparing-catholic-and-protestant-women/
...
The survey, the latest conducted by the Alan Guttmacher Institute, was completed by more than 10,000 women
...
The institute found that more Protestant women obtained abortions than Catholics:

Forty-three percent of women over age 17 in the 2000-2001 survey said they were Protestant, while
27 percent said they were Catholic.
the remaining 22 percent said they had no religious affiliation [ probably from non-catholic Christian parents) so that would make 65 percent of all abortions by Non-Catholics ][/color]
Those who said they were Jewish were too small in number for analysis and were grouped with the “other” category, Jones says.
...

But Catholics were more likely to get an abortion:

The abortion rate for Catholic women was 22 per 1,000 women;
the rate for Protestants was 18 per 1,000 women, according to study author Rachel K. Jones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melinda_Gates

Melinda French Gates (born Melinda Ann French; August 15, 1964)[1] is an American businesswoman and philanthropist. She is the wife of Bill Gates, whom she met while working at Microsoft, where she was project manager for Microsoft Bob, Microsoft Encarta and Expedia
...
Melinda was born in 1964 in Dallas, Texas. She was the second of four children born to Raymond Joseph French Jr., an engineer, and Elaine Agnes Amerland, a homemaker. She has an older sister and two younger brothers.[2] Gates, a Roman Catholic, [3][4] attended St. Monica Catholic School,[5][6] where she was the top student in her class year. She graduated as valedictorian from Ursuline Academy of Dallas in 1982. Gates earned a bachelor's degree in computer science and economics from Duke University in 1986 and an MBA from Duke's Fuqua School of Business in 1987.

Religion Roman Catholic
...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Gates,_Sr.

Bill Gates, Sr. also served on the board of Planned Parenthood
...
He currently serves on the Board of Regents for the University of Washington, and is a co-chair of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which his son Bill and his son's wife Melinda founded

http://archive.lifenews.com/int443.html
Catholic Senators Blasted for Backing Tax-Funded International Abortions
 by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
September 24, 2007

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A group of sixteen Catholic senators is under fire for voting to make taxpayers fund groups that perform and promote abortions in other countries. While opposing the views of their church on abortion is one concern, Rev. Thomas Euteneuer says making Americans promote abortion is quite another...

Two weeks ago, as LifeNews.com previously reported, the Senate voted 53-41 to overturn a policy President Bush instituted on his first day in office in 2001 that protects taxpayers from funding international abortions

A contingent of Catholic senators were among the 53 voting for the pro-abortion amendment -- a group Euteneuer, the head of Human Life International, calls the "gang of 16."

"For the most part it's the usual suspects who claim to be Catholic while their consistent pro-abortion votes amount to a betrayal of the Catholic faith," he told LifeNews.com, saying he expected them to vote to promote abortion.

...
The group of Catholic senators voting to fund international abortions includes Robert Casey, Jr. (D-PA), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), John Kerry (D-MA), Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Susan Collins (R-ME),Robert Menendez (D-NJ),  Mary Landrieu (D-LA), Ken Salazar (D-CO), Tom Harkin (D-IA), Richard Durbin (D-IL), Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Patty Murray (D-WA), Jack Reed (D-RI), Christopher Dodd (D-CT), Claire McCaskill (D-MO).

President Bush has already promised he would veto the bill if it nullified his abortion policy.

Deirdre McQuade, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, told LifeNews.com she appreciated the president's willingness to veto the bill over the provision to fund abortions.
...

http://transition.usaid.gov/our_work/global_health/pop/restrictions.html

Rescission of the Mexico City Policy
On January 23, 2009, President Obama rescinded the Mexico City Policy


The Mexico City Policy had required foreign nongovernmental organizations to certify that they will not perform or actively promote abortion as a method of family planning using funds generated from any source as a condition for receiving USAID family planning assistance

The Mexico City Policy had been in effect from 1985 until 1993, when it was rescinded by President Clinton.  President Bush reinstated the policy in 2001, and it had remained in place since that time.  In rescinding the policy, President Obama directed USAID to immediately waive the policy’s conditions in any current grants; notify current grantees, as soon as possible, that these conditions have been waived; and immediately cease imposing these conditions in any future grants. Read this in Spanish [PDF, 8KB], French [PDF, 19KB], and Arabic [PDF, 61KB].
Title: Re: New Pope was announced 3hrs ago...
Post by: TahoeBlue on August 24, 2015, 01:58:57 pm
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/pope-address-us-congress-114939.html
Pope will address Congress in September
It will be the first time the head of the Roman Catholic Church has addressed a joint session.
By Jake Sherman
  | 2/5/15 11:35 AM EDT
  | Updated 2/5/15 1:49 PM EDT
 
Pope Francis will address a joint session of Congress on Sept. 24, the first time the head of the Roman Catholic Church will have addressed the body.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), himself a Catholic, made the announcement Thursday morning.
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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/pope-address-us-congress-114939.html#ixzz3jlFZNknE

Four Blood Moons Coming on Biblical dates - End of Days

http://6abc.com/religion/pope-to-deliver-speech-on-independence-mall/948235/
Pope to deliver speech on Independence Mall
Wednesday, August 19, 2015 06:02PM

CENTER CITY (WPVI) --
 Much of the focus of the upcoming papal visit has been on Sunday's Mass on the parkway September 27th. But the pope will first be on Independence Mall on Saturday to give a highly-anticipated speech.

Historic Independence Hall is the birthplace of this nation, and it will provide the backdrop for Pope Francis on the afternoon of Saturday, September 26th.

It will be there, on a relatively small stage, where the pope will give something of a policy speech.

Bob Ciaruffoli from the World Meeting of Families explains, "It is not a religious service. It's the pope, the Holy Father, speaking about his feelings on issues that are important to him."

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http://www.ushistory.org/tour/independence-hall.htm

Construction of the Pennsylvania State House, which came to be known as Independence Hall, began in 1732. It was a symbol of the nation to come. At the time it was the most ambitious public building in the thirteen colonies. The Provincial government paid for construction as they went along, so it was finished piecemeal. It wasn't until 1753, 21 years after the groundbreaking, before it was completed.

https://journals.psu.edu/phj/article/viewFile/21029/20798
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN COLONIAL PENNSYLVANIA
BY SISTER BLANCHE MARIE
Convent of St. Elizabeth, Convent, New Jersey
...

The Roman Catholics were not numerous in any colony. Even in Maryland they formed less than one-half of the total population. Too few of them found shelter in Pennsylvania because they could not take part in political life since they were unable to take the oaths required by the English government. In 1757 Lord Loudon reported that there were approximately 1,365 Catholics in Pennsylvania.
Yet, small as was their number, the colonists feared them as intensely as did the people of England. Out of this jealousy and suspicion grew an opposition and oppression which, as often happens, gave impetus to the movement it was intended to impede.

It has been said-you may accept it or not-that the rising spirit of nationalism made the English Protestants resent the assumption on the part of the Pope that he had any right to determine the relations of Englishmen to their rulers. Yet nationalism was not a Protestant product. How account for the loyalty of the Roman Catholics of Maryland and Pennsylvania throughout the French and Indian War, and their fixed attachment to the cause of independence, except by ascribing it to a memorable pride of race and spirit of patriotism?

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UN Post-2015 Sustainable Development Agenda

http://sd.iisd.org/events/un-summit-for-adoption-of-post-2015-development-agenda/
UN Summit for the Adoption of the Post-2015 Development Agenda

The UN Summit to adopt the post-2015 development agenda was mandated by the UN General Assembly on 25 September 2013 (Resolution 68/6). The Summit will take place on 25-27 September 2015, and will be convened as a high-level plenary meeting of the General Assembly, per Resolution 69/244 of December 2014. In February 2015, UNGA President Sam Kutesa proposed adjusting the beginning of the Summit to 11:00 am on 25 September, to allow for an address by His Holiness Pope Francis at 9:00 am.   

dates:  25-27 September 2015   
venue:  UN Headquarters   
location:  New York City, US   
contact:  Office of the President of the UN General Assembly 

http://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/mdgoverview/post-2015-development-agenda.html
Post-2015 Sustainable Development Agenda

“World leaders have an unprecedented opportunity this year to shift the world onto a path of inclusive, sustainable and resilient development" - Helen Clark, UNDP Administrator, January 2015.

...
What is the post-2015 sustainable development agenda?

The new post-2015 development agenda builds on the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs), eight anti-poverty targets that the world committed to achieving by 2015. Enormous progress has been made on the MDGs, showing the value of a unifying agenda underpinned by goals and targets. Yet despite this success, the indignity of poverty has not been ended for all.

The members of the United Nations are now in the process of defining Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) as part of a new agenda to finish the job of the MDGs, and leave no one behind. 

This agenda will be adopted by Member States at the Sustainable Development Summit in September 2015.

What are the proposed SDGs?

1.End poverty in all its forms everywhere
2.End hunger, achieve food security and improved nutrition, and promote sustainable agriculture
3.Ensure healthy lives and promote wellbeing for all at all ages
4.Ensure inclusive and equitable quality education and promote lifelong learning opportunities for all
5.Achieve gender equality and empower all women and girls
6.Ensure availability and sustainable management of water and sanitation for all
7.Ensure access to affordable, reliable, sustainable and modern energy for all
8.Promote sustained, inclusive and sustainable economic growth, full and productive employment, and decent work for all
9.Build resilient infrastructure, promote inclusive and sustainable industrialisation, and foster innovation
10.Reduce inequality within and among countries
11.Make cities and human settlements inclusive, safe, resilient and sustainable
12.Ensure sustainable consumption and production patterns
13.Take urgent action to combat climate change and its impacts (taking note of agreements made by the UNFCCC forum)
14.Conserve and sustainably use the oceans, seas and marine resources for sustainable development
15.Protect, restore and promote sustainable use of terrestrial ecosystems, sustainably manage forests, combat desertification and halt and reverse land degradation, and halt biodiversity loss
16.Promote peaceful and inclusive societies for sustainable development, provide access to justice for all and build effective, accountable and inclusive institutions at all levels
17.Strengthen the means of implementation and revitalise the global partnership for sustainable development

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX54Wfma--s
POPE Francis to Lead U.N. 1-World GOVT Official "SIGNING" & Launching (Sept 2015)

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http://www.popefrancisvisit.com/schedule/address-to-united-nations-general-assembly/
Pope Francis to Address the United Nations General Assembly

On Thursday, September 25th, 2015 at 8:30 a.m, Pope Francis will formally address the United Nations General Assembly in New York City.

With the assembly celebrating its 70th anniversary, the attendance and address of Pope Francis are guaranteed to make it a special one. This year’s assembly will also involve huge decisions for its members concerning sustainable development, climate change and much more.

In addition to Pope Francis’ address to the assembly he will also have bilateral meetings with the Secretary-General and the President of the General Assembly, and participate in a town hall gathering with United Nations staff.

The United Nations is an international organization founded in 1945. There are 193 Member States, and the purpose is to take action on the issues that are confronting humanity in the 21st century. Pope Paul VI spoke to the General Assembly in 1965, when he visited. Pope John Paul II addressed them twice – saying that he came as a witness to human dignity.

In 2008, Pope Benedict XVI also spoke to the United Nations.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on August 29, 2015, 01:45:30 pm
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150827/us-obama-popes-visit-cbaea95f8e.html
Focus shifts to shared goals with Obama as papal visit nears
Aug 27, 3:13 AM (ET)
By JOSH LEDERMAN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Sweeping into office in 2009, President Barack Obama captured near rock-star status around the world among millions who saw him as the embodiment of a new sense of social purpose. Now, that baton has largely been passed to Pope Francis, whose visit to the White House next month will put his common cause with Obama on vivid display.

Obama has made no secret of his affection for the outspoken pope, calling him a "transformative leader" whose influence has transcended the Roman Catholic community. The pope has embraced many of the issues Obama has sought to advance, including global warming, poverty and diplomacy with Iran and Cuba.

Vice President Joe Biden, a Catholic, said the pope's Sept. 23 visit will mark an important moment not only for Catholics but for all Americans.

"Pope Francis has breathed new life into what I believe is the central mission of our faith: Catholic social doctrine," Biden said in a statement to The Associated Press. Invoking key elements of Obama's agenda, Biden added that Francis "has become a moral rudder for the world on some of the most important issues of our time, from inequality to climate change."
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Post by: TahoeBlue on September 01, 2015, 12:48:14 pm
dang I missed this historic meeting ... one more step towards a universal global religion hmmm ...

http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/faith/1836619-155/eyring-marriage-pope-address-conference-environments
Pope, Mormon leader make history with a handshake
Nov 17 2014

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(Courtesy of the LDS Church) At a conference on marriage at the Vatican on Monday, Nov. 17, 2014, Pope Francis greeted religious leaders from around the world including Henry B. Eyring of the LDS Church's First Presidency
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Eyring is poised to address the Vatican conference Tuesday at 8 a.m. MST.

While LDS leaders have met key Catholic officials in the past, and a couple of Mormon apostles previously attended a papal prayer service, the Francis-Eyring exchange is thought to be the highest-level encounter between the Utah-based faith and the world's largest Christian denomination.
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http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/02feb/LDS.html
Satanic Child Sacrificing Rituals First Reported At Vatican And Now At LDS Temple In Salt Lake City
2006 02 15
By Greg Szymanski
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"I am not anti-Mormon or anti any other religion, but just feel the corruption goes so deep into the hierarchy, the truth about the connections needs to be exposed before it's too late for America," said Ott who recently appeared on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal.

A audio version of Ott's entire two-hour interview, exposing top level LDS affiliation with Masonic and less than honest U.S. government-compromised policy makers, can be found under The Investigative Journal archives page at www.rbnlive.com

And the research in his upcoming book, Free At Last, the subject of the radio interview, deals with LDS hierarchy links to the Knights of Malta, Freemasons, Jesuits, the Bush crime family and other top U.S. government officials, including the former Utah Governor and present U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Director, Michael O. Leavitt.

Besides rampant corruption in the LDS church and U.S. government, Ott also feels the hierarchies of other major religions, including Catholicism and Judaism, unknown to the general church-going public, have been infiltrated by satanic cult influences.

These satanic influences, claims Ott, is led by the Jesuits, Freemasons, Illuminati, the Knights of Malta and others, is leading America into a secret fascist state - their government of choice -- with the help of these corrupted officials and religious leaders at the core of the illegal Iraqi war and the contrived war on terror.

"Don't let anybody fool you. Satan exists. I have seen it for my own eyes when I was near death in 1987 and these evil people controlling the masses from high level positions are part of this satanic quest to destroy America using a policy of war and genocide," said Ott, who has a PhD in nutrition and runs a natural-based mineral company in order to instill good health and nutrition by natural methods.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on September 01, 2015, 03:27:16 pm
Wow I missed this TOO .. the CONVOKED Jubilee Year ! ... And not Jesus but the "Mother of Mercy"


http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/francis-announces-new-global-jubilee-holy-year-mercy
Francis announces new global jubilee, the Holy Year of Mercy
by Joshua J. McElwee    |  Mar. 13, 2015

Symbolically calling on the entire global Roman Catholic church to take up his papacy's central message of compassion and pardon, Pope Francis on Friday announced that he is convoking a jubilee year to be called the Holy Year of Mercy.
 
Saying he has "thought often about how the church can make more evident its mission of being a witness of mercy," the pope announced the new jubilee year during a Lenten penitential service in St. Peter's Basilica.

"I am convinced that the whole church -- that has much need to receive mercy because we are sinners — will find in this jubilee the joy to rediscover and render fruitful the mercy of God, with which we are all called to give consolation to every man and woman of our time," Francis said in announcing the year.

"Let us not forget that God pardons and God pardons always," the pope continued. "Let us never tire of asking for forgiveness."

"We entrust it as of now to the Mother of Mercy, because she looks to us with her gaze and watches over our way," Francis said. "Our penitential way, our way of open hearts, during a year to receive the indulgence of God, to receive the mercy of God."
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Baby part videos ...

interesting connections ... Last year the Gates announced they would NO LONGER fund abortions ... Melinda Gates is a Roman Catholic ...
Now the pope in charge pardons the doctors who perform abortions ,,, and the women who have them...

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/09/01/pope-francis-tells-priests-to-pardon-women-who-have-abortions/
Pope Francis Tells Priests to Pardon Women Who Have Abortions
9/1/2015

Vatican City (AFP) – Pope Francis on Tuesday called on priests to pardon women who have abortions, and the doctors who perform them, during the upcoming Jubilee year — overruling hardline traditionalists within the Catholic Church.

“I have decided, notwithstanding anything to the contrary, to concede to all priests for the Jubilee Year the discretion to absolve of the sin of abortion those who have procured it and who, with contrite heart, seek forgiveness for it,” he said.

In a message outlining special measures for the Jubilee, Francis said he knew that while “the tragedy of abortion is experienced by some with a superficial awareness… many others… believe that they have no other option”.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melinda_Gates
Melinda French Gates (born Melinda Ann French; August 15, 1964)[4] is an American businesswoman and philanthropist.[5]

Occupation Co-Chair, operator of Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
Religion Roman Catholicism

Melinda, a Roman Catholic,[1][7][8] attended St. Monica Catholic School,[9][10] where she was the top student in her class year. She graduated as valedictorian from Ursuline Academy of Dallas in 1982
see: https://www.ursulinedallas.org/ The Ursuline order was founded by St. Angela Merici in Brescia, Italy, in 1535


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ6mjx4J7dM
Bill Gates: My Father Headed Planned Parenthood

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/06/12/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-says-it-will-no-longer-fund-abortion/
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Says It Will No Longer Fund Abortion
by Dr. Susan Berry 12 Jun 2014

Melinda Gates, of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, has announced that her international family planning foundation will no longer fund abortion because she believes abortion and family planning have become “conflated.”

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As CNS News reports, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation currently has an endowment of $40.2 billion and supports international family planning programs, providing grants in the United States and in over 100 other nations.

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In May of 2013, Breitbart News reported that Melinda Gates, then-HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, and late-term abortionist LeRoy Carhart were speakers at the international “Women Deliver” conference in Kuala Lumpur.

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Post by: TahoeBlue on September 03, 2015, 12:47:04 pm
now this really an in the face political statement isn't it?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/03/pope-francis-will-celebrate-d-c-mass-in-spanish-to-recognize-large-hispanic-population-in-u-s/
by Dr. Susan Berry3 Sep 2015

Pope Francis will celebrate Mass in Spanish in Washington, D.C., later this month in a bow to the large Hispanic population in the United States.

Cardinal Donald Wuerl, archbishop of Washington, D.C., said the Mass, to be held on September 23 at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, will be in Spanish in “recognition of how large the Hispanic population in the United States is,” says the Washington Examiner.

“And he’s coming as the first pope from the New World and the predominant language in this hemisphere is Spanish,” added Wuerl, stating that non-Hispanics will be given translations on jumbotrons.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on September 20, 2015, 10:26:36 pm
So no firing squads ? Raul's getting soft ....


http://time.com/4041802/pope-francis-us-visit-cuba-raul-castro/
Pope Francis Sits Down with Raúl Castro in Havana
Elizabeth Dias @elizabethjdias    5:05 PM ET

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Pope Francis speaks with Cuba's President Raul Castro during his arrival ceremony at the airport in Havana, Cuba, Saturday, Sept. 19, 2015.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/05/10/ra_l_castro_says_pope_francis_could_inspire_him_to_return_to_the_church.html
Raúl Castro Says Pope Francis Could Inspire Him to Return to the Church 
By Daniel Politi

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Pope Francis talks with Cuban President Raul Castro during a private audience at the Vatican on May 10, 2015.

Castro and his brother, Fidel Castro, were both baptized Roman Catholic but most Church activities stopped after the revolution, notes the BBC. Francis is now scheduled to go to the island in September, becoming the third pope to do so. The island began relaxing its religious restrictions in 1996 after Fidel went to the Vatican to visit Pope John Paull II, who went to Cuba two years later. Pope Benedict XVI also visited Cuba in 2012. “I am from the Cuban Communist Party, that doesn’t allow believers, but now we are allowing it,” Castro said during a Sunday news conference, according to the New York Times. “It’s an important step.”



Obama gets to meet a real certified killer ... wow ... must really get him going ...

http://www.therealcuba.com/page5.htm
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Even before the triumph of the Revolution, Castro and his gang were prone to murder those who disagreed with them.

In the photo below, taken while still in the Sierra Maestra mountains, Fidel Castro's brother, Raul, is seen getting ready to shoot a young rebel soldier who disobeyed orders.

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And more than fifty years after the above photo was taken, Castro and his gang of murderers continue to send to the firing squad, those Cubans who oppose his betrayal of the Revolution.

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The Cuban Memorial displayed at Tamiami Park, Miami, Florida:
Each cross bears the name of a victim of Castro's genocide against the Cuban people

Why is the entire World blind to a half century of Castro's Crimes?
Why is it that very few people seem to care about Castro's genocide against the Cuban people?


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/world/americas/obama-cuba-summit-of-the-americas.html?_r=0
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Obama Meets Raúl Castro, Making History
By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and RANDAL C. ARCHIBOLD
APRIL 11, 2015
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“Our governments will continue to have differences,” he said at a news conference wrapping up the summit meeting. “At the same time, we agreed that we can continue to take steps forward that advance our mutual interests.”
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Post by: TahoeBlue on September 27, 2015, 05:04:32 pm
Philly Cheese Pope ...

http://interactives.kxan.com/photomojo/gallery/38056/646675/behind-the-barricades-pope-in-philly/stiff-security/
Behind-the-Barricades: Pope in Philly
Our team of journalists captured the unpolished images in Philadelphia as Pope Francis wrapped up his historic visit to the U.S. Sept. 26-27, 2015.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on October 28, 2015, 11:41:07 pm
Seventh Day Adventist comments on Pope visit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-6uxBDHZk8
Walter Veith Commentary on Pope Francis Visit to America
Published on Oct 2, 2015



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Post by: TahoeBlue on February 18, 2016, 02:54:13 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/politics/pope-francis-trump-christian-wall/index.html
Pope suggests Trump 'is not Christian'
By Daniel Burke, CNN Religion Editor
Updated 3:45 PM ET, Thu February 18, 2016 | Video Source: CNN

(CNN)—Thrusting himself into the combative 2016 presidential campaign, Pope Francis said Thursday that GOP front-runner Donald Trump "is not Christian" if he calls for the deportation of undocumented immigrants and pledges to build a wall between the United States and Mexico.

The Pope, who was traveling back to Rome from Mexico, where he urged the United States to address the "humanitarian crisis" on its southern border, did not tell American Catholics not to vote for Trump.

But Francis left little doubt where he stood on the polarizing issue of immigration reform.

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not the gospel," the Pope told journalists who asked his opinion on Trump's proposals to halt illegal immigration.

Trump immediately fired back, calling Francis' comments "disgraceful."

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Post by: Geolibertarian on February 19, 2016, 03:05:47 am
I had mixed feelings about Pope Francis in 2013, but have since lost all respect for him.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on May 22, 2016, 11:36:11 am
This falls in the "You can't make this up" category ...

http://www.infowars.com/pope-francis-likens-jesus-to-isis-says-muslims-migrants-must-breed-with-europeans/
Pope Francis Likens Jesus to ISIS, Says Muslims Must Breed With Europeans
Francis claims ISIS similar to Jesus sending his disciples to all nations
Kit Daniels - May 19, 2016

In a shocking interview, Pope Francis likened Jesus Christ to ISIS and said Muslim migrants must breed with Europeans to counter “declining birth rates.”


“Today, I don’t think that there is a fear of Islam as such but of ISIS and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam,” he told French newspaper La Croix. “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam, however, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”
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Post by: TahoeBlue on June 26, 2016, 05:12:23 pm
So What's new with the NWO  Pope ?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/26/pope-francis-says-christians-should-apologise-to-gay-people
Pope Francis says Christians should apologise to gay people

The pontiff says Church teachings dictate that gay people should not be discriminated against, but respected

Pope Francis said on Sunday that Christians and the Roman Catholic Church should seek forgiveness from gay people for the way they had treated them.

In an hour-long conversation with reporters on the plane taking him back to Rome from Armenia, the pontiff was asked if he agreed with recent comments by a German Roman Catholic cardinal that the Church should apologise to gay people.

The pope recalled Church teachings, saying: “[Gay people] should not be discriminated against. They should be respected, accompanied pastorally

“I think that the Church not only should apologise ... to a gay person whom it offended but it must also apologise to the poor as well, to the women who have been exploited, to children who have been exploited by (being forced to) work. It must apologise for having blessed so many weapons.”
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Post by: TahoeBlue on July 16, 2016, 12:04:13 pm
Now the Methodist's .... ( The Glide in SF is openly socialist/communist BTW )
So Westcoast Methodist have been captured by NWO slave theology


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_REL_METHODISTS_GAY_BISHOP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-07-16-09-14-48
Jul 16, 9:14 AM EDT
Methodists elect 1st openly gay bishop in defiance of ban
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https://juicyecumenism.com/2016/07/16/karen-olivetos-theology-criticizing-jesus-defending-demon-possession/
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Rev. Karen Oliveto

SCOTTSDALE, Arizona (AP) -- The Western district of the Methodist church has elected an openly gay bishop despite the denomination's ban on same-sex relationships.

The Rev. Karen Oliveto was elected late Friday night at a meeting in Scottsdale, Arizona, of the church's Western Jurisdiction. Oliveto is pastor of Glide Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco. She is the first openly gay bishop in the 12.7 million-member denomination.
 

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Post by: TahoeBlue on August 01, 2016, 10:35:30 am
Sorry, but social injustice has nothing to do with ISIS . Here he morally equates Bad Catholics with ISIS . wow
So did he make a deal with the Saudis?  Of course since he is also a Jesuit, he knows all about religious terrorism.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/695276/Pope-Francis-defends-Muslims-blasts-Islam-not-terrorism
Pope Francis defends Muslims and blasts 'Islam is NOT terrorism'

POPE Francis said yesterday it was wrong to identify Islam with terrorism and that social injustice and idolatry of money were among the prime causes of terrorism.
PUBLISHED:  09:47, Mon, Aug 1, 2016    | UPDATED: 10:09, Mon, Aug 1, 2016

Speaking aboard the plane taking him back to Rome after a five-day trip to Poland, he said: “I think it is not right to identify Islam with terrorism.

“It is not right and it is not true.”

Francis was responding to a question about the killing on July 26 of an 85-year-old Roman Catholic priest by knife-wielding attackers who burst into a church service in western France, forced the priest to his knees and slit his throat.

The attack was claimed by ISIS.

He said: “I think that in nearly all religions there is always a small fundamentalist group."

He then added: “We have them,” referring to Catholicism.

The Pope continued: “I don’t like to talk about Islamic violence because every day when I look at the papers I see violence here in Italy - someone killing his girlfriend, someone killing his mother-in-law. These are baptised Catholics.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on September 01, 2016, 02:33:01 pm
Cremation of Care ? = Care of Creation

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/09/01/pope-francis-global-warming-sin-man-can-atone-recycling-car-pooling/
Pope Francis: Global Warming a ‘Sin,’ Man Can Atone by Recycling and ‘Car-Pooling’

In his message for the “World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation” Thursday, Pope Francis said that human-induced global warming, as well as a loss of biodiversity are “sins” against God, which must be atoned for by planting trees, avoiding the use of plastic and paper and “separating refuse.”
“Global warming continues, due in part to human activity,” Francis said, adding that “2015 was the warmest year on record, and 2016 will likely be warmer still.”

“This is leading to ever more severe droughts, floods, fires and extreme weather events. Climate change is also contributing to the heart-rending refugee crisis. The world’s poor, though least responsible for climate change, are most vulnerable and already suffering its impact,” he wrote.

Repeatedly citing the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, who has “courageously and prophetically continued to point out our sins against creation,” Francis made his own a new list of such environmental sins, which include pollution, global warming and deforestation.

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In his message, the Pope also applauded “a growing global political consensus” regarding the environment, praising the adoption of “Sustainable Development Goals” as well as last December’s Paris Agreement on climate change, “which set the demanding yet fundamental goal of halting the rise of the global temperature.”

Apparently the pontiff’s prayers have already been heard, since scientists are now forecasting that 2017 will be a cooler year than 2016.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on September 26, 2017, 09:41:21 am
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-29/vaticans-finance-chief-cardinal-pell-charged-multiple-sex-assaults
Vatican's Finance Chief, Cardinal Pell, Charged With Multiple Sex Assaults

by Tyler Durden
Jun 29, 2017 5:19 AM

The Vatican's finance chief, Australia's highest ranking Roman Catholic and one of Pope Francis' most senior advisors, Cardinal George Pell, has been charged with multiple sex offenses by Australian police in the latest blow to the Vatican’s attempts to put decades of child sex abuse scandals behind it.

"Cardinal Pell is facing multiple charges in respect of historic sexual offenses," Victoria state police deputy commissioner Shane Patton said, following a police investigation that followed the same processes and procedures applied in other sex abuse cases. Cardinal Pell has been summoned to appear in court in Melbourne on July 18 to face the charges, which relate to complaints made by more than one person, according to the FT. To attend the hearing the 76-year-old would have to return to Australia from Rome, where he has been tasked by the Pope with cleaning up the Vatican’s finances.
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There might be up to 10 alleged victims, Australian news website News.com.au reports, adding that they were minors at the time of the alleged assaults and are now aged from their late 20s to their early 50s. The allegations are believed to stretch from the time that Pell was a priest in the Australian town of Ballarat to when he was Archbishop of Melbourne. It is alleged that the cardinal groomed boys at a swimming pool in Ballarat in the 1970s and committed sexual assaults at St Patrick’s Cathedral in Melbourne, according to The Australian.
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/cardinal-pell-and-the-vaticans-day-of-reckoning.html
The Pope’s Pedophile?
By Andrew Sullivan

Well into Pope Francis’s pontificate, one of his closest aides, the third-highest official in the Catholic Church, Cardinal George Pell, has now been credibly accused of several acts of sexual assault, including one of rape. Australian police have concluded that the evidence they have is sufficient to move forward, even in cases that happened long ago.
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. A cloud has hung over Pell since he was an Episcopal vicar in a parish in the 1970s that has been described as a “pedophile’s paradise and a child’s nightmare.” A full 15 years ago, Pell was accused of molesting a 12-year-old boy but when the church investigated, a retired Supreme Court justice found that there wasn’t enough evidence, even though the victim appeared to be “speaking honestly from actual recollection.” A year later, Pope John Paul II made Pell a cardinal. Several new alleged victims spoke out in a book published only last month.
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In 2015, Australia’s Channel 9 ran a 60 Minutes segment that can only be called horrifying. In it, one of Francis’s own appointees to investigate sex abuse, Peter Saunders, described Pell’s record on sexual abuse as “almost sociopathic.”
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... testimony demonstrating that Pell moved around a pedophile priest for years who was later convicted of 138 counts of indecent assault and child sexual abuse. That priest, the notorious Gerald Ridsdale, even allegedly raped two of his own nephews
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Post by: TahoeBlue on March 23, 2018, 12:17:35 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/03/23/vatican-cracks-critics-pope-francis/
Vatican Cracks Down on Critics of Pope Francis
by Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.
23 Mar 2018

The Vatican has taken new measures to punish critics of Pope Francis in a move that seems to belie the pope’s earlier calls for greater dialogue and debate within the Church.

On Thursday, the Rome-based Sovereign Order of Malta, which reports directly to the Holy See, suspended historian Henry Sire after he was revealed to be the author of the bestselling book The Dictator Pope: The Inside Story of the Francis Papacy, a critical examination of the pontificate of Pope Francis.
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In January, 2017, the Vatican took control of the Knights of Malta after ousting its Grand Master Matthew Festing for his “defiance of papal authority.” The pope asked Festing to resign following a dispute over sovereignty with the Vatican, replacing him with papal delegate Archbishop Angelo Becciu as interim leader of the order.
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Under the pen name Marcantonio Colonna, Sire published The Dictator Pope electronically in November of 2017, first in Italian and then in English, after spending a four-year residence with the Knights of Malta in Rome from 2013 to 2017, during which time he conducted his research for the book. Only on Monday did Sire acknowledge that he was the author of the book.

In it, Sire portrayed Francis as an authoritarian leader who does not brook opposition or criticism. Contrary to his public persona as a jovial man of the people, Sire wrote that Francis has turned out to be “a papal tyrant the like of whom has not been seen for many centuries” and under his administration, “the Vatican is systematically silencing, eliminating and replacing critics of the Pope’s views.”

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According to AP, some people within the church have been angered by “content opposing abortion, same-sex marriages and adoptions by gays and lesbians,” which, on the other hand, tends to square with official Catholic teaching on these matters.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on April 01, 2018, 06:47:50 pm
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/pope-christians-should-feel-shame-for-global-strife
Pope: Christians should feel shame for global strife
Apr 1, 2018 8:22 am By Robert Spencer

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/world/2017/04/29/Pope-denounces-religious-extremism/stories/201704290095
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Pope Francis doesn’t seem to have said a word about the religion that actually teaches that believers should wage war against and subjugate unbelievers. But of course, about that religion he has said, “Authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.” So it is the Christians who should feel shame for the strife in the world, not anyone else.

“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=12395&ArticleId=2453709

“Pope: Christians Should Feel Shame for Global Strife,” Latin American Herald Tribune, March 30, 2018:

    ROME – Christians ought to express shame for the actions of those who are leaving future generations a world “fractured by divisions and wars,” Pope Francis said in his prayer during the Good Friday Via Crucis at the Colosseum in Rome.

    The pope invoked Jesus of Nazareth, saying “our gaze upon you is full of shame, repentance and hope.”

    “Before your supreme love, shame pervades us for having left you alone to suffer for our sins … shame for having chosen Barabbas and not you, power and not you, appearance and not you, the god of money and not you, worldliness and not eternity,” Francis said.

    Christians feel shame for all the people, including some clergy, who “allowed themselves to be deceived by ambition and vainglory, losing sight of their dignity and first love,” and those who have left future generations a world “fractured by divisions and wars” and “consumed by selfishness,” the pope said….
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Post by: TahoeBlue on May 21, 2018, 09:47:55 am
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6337719/pope-francis-gay-man-god-loves-you/
'GOD LOVES YOU' Pope Francis tells gay man ?God made you like this and loves you like this?

The remarks were apparently made to a victim of clerical sexual abuse and are the most striking acceptance of homosexuality by the Catholic Church to date

POPE Francis has told a gay man that God loves him during a private meeting, it has been claimed.

In a private dialogue, the Pontiff is understood to have told Juan Carlos Cruz, a victim of sexual abuse at the hands of Catholic priests, that God loves gay people and it is fine to be homosexual.
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Cruz was a victim of Chile?s most notorious paedophile priest Fernando Karadima.

Father Karadima, now aged 87, was found guilty of sexual abuse by the Vatican in 2011.

Cruz claims that his suffering was ignored by a number of Latin American bishops who used his homosexuality to brand him a liar when he spoke out.

Speaking to Spanish newspaper El Pa?s, Cruz said: ?He [the Pope] told me, ?Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter.

?God made you like this and loves you like this and I don?t care.

?The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.?

The Pope?s words signal a much more open and inclusive approach by the often restrictive faith ? a move which will likely upset many conservative Catholics.

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https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-demons/
Bible Verses About Demons
Compiled and Edited by BibleStudyTools Staff on 2/4/2015
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Matthew 8:31
31 The demons begged Jesus, ?If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.?

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Luke 8:30 NIV
30 Jesus asked him, ?What is your name???Legion,? he replied, because many demons had gone into him.
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2 Peter 2:4-10 NIV

4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;
5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless
8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)?
9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings;
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Post by: TahoeBlue on August 26, 2018, 01:47:10 pm
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/08/26/former-vatican-official-accuses-pope-francis-of-knowingly-reinstating-abusive-cardinal/
Former Vatican Official Accuses Pope Francis of Knowingly Reinstating Abusive Cardinal
26 Aug 2018

In a bombshell report, the Vatican?s former ambassador to the United States has accused Pope Francis of reinstating Cardinal Theodore McCarrick to a position of prominence despite knowing of McCarrick?s sexual abuse of priests, seminarians, and laypeople, including minors.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigan? released an 11-page affidavit on Saturday alleging that Pope Benedict had imposed ?canonical sanctions? on Cardinal McCarrick in 2009-2010 forbidding him from traveling, celebrating Mass in public, or participating in public meetings, but that Pope Francis later lifted these sanctions and made McCarrick a close personal advisor.

Presenting himself as a whistleblower, Vigan? declares that bishops ?must have the courage to tear down the culture of secrecy and publicly confess the truths we have kept hidden.?

The archbishop concludes by calling on Pope Francis to resign his office as pope.
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Post by: TahoeBlue on September 23, 2018, 02:21:46 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-catholic-church-pledges-loyalty-party-vatican-deal-105421500.html
China's Catholic Church pledges loyalty to Party after Vatican deal
[Reuters]
September 23, 2018

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China's Catholic Church reaffirmed its loyalty to the country's ruling Communist Party on Sunday, while welcoming a landmark deal struck with the Vatican on appointing new bishops.

The Vatican on Saturday signed an agreement giving it a long-desired and decisive say in the appointment of bishops in China, though critics labeled it a sellout to the government.

China's around 12 million Catholics have been split between an underground Church swearing loyalty to the Vatican and the state-supervised Catholic Patriotic Association.

The Catholic Church in China said it would "persevere to walk a path suited to a socialist society, under the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party."
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The Vatican has said the accord, a breakthrough after years of negotiations, was "not political but pastoral", and hoped it would lead to "the full communion of all Chinese Catholics."
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Post by: TahoeBlue on February 05, 2019, 01:12:18 pm
Among the many reasons Why I am a protestant ...  Don't blame Jesus for this , it's the devils business .


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-priests-nuns-sexual-slavery-abuse-saint-jean-order-france/
Pope Francis confirms priests' abuse of nuns included "sexual slavery"
 By Tucker Reals

Updated on: February 5, 2019 / 1:09 PM / CBS News

Nuns have suffered and are still suffering sexual abuse at the hands of Catholic priests and bishops, and even being held as sexual slaves, Pope Francis confirmed on Tuesday. The abuse was so severe in one case that an entire congregation of nuns was dissolved by former Pope Benedict.

The scope of the abuse of nuns by clergy members first came to light with the publication at the beginning of February of the monthly magazine "Women Church World." The edition included Francis' own take on the scandal -- long known about by the Vatican but virtually never discussed -- in which he blamed the unchecked power wielded by priests and higher clergy across the Catholic Church for such crimes. 
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