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Title: Voting Machines flipping for Obama (or Romney)
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 03, 2012, 02:46:02 pm
please post articles of Voting machines for Obama ( or auto selection of any candidate!)...

Absurd! Nevada Voting Machine Auto-Selecting Obama
25 October 2012 / 217 Comments has just received confirmation that a voter in Las Vegas tried voting for Governor Mitt Romney but the machine automatically checked “Obama” multiple times instead.
Our source said:
“Yesterday I went to an early voting site at Centennial Center in Las Vegas, NV. I went with my 19 year old son who was a first-time voter. I went to an open machine and inserted my card. When the selections came up, all of the candidate pairings were listed and I touched the box for Romney/Ryan. The checkmark appeared next to President Obama’s name. I touched the check mark removing it and touched the box next to Romney’s name again. Again, the checkmark appeared next to Obama.

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Claims increase of machines switching votes in Ohio, other battlegrounds
 By Eric Shawn
 Published November 02, 2012
Imagine going to vote for your presidential candidate and pushing the button on a touch-screen voting machine -- but the "X" marks his opponent instead.
That is what some voters in Nevada, North Carolina, Texas and Ohio have reported.
Fox News has received several complaints from voters who say they voted on touch-screen voting machines -- only when they tried to select Mitt Romney, the machine indicated they had chosen President Obama. The voters in question realized the error and were able to cast ballots for their actual choice.
"I don't know if it happened to anybody else or not, but this is the first time in all the years that we voted that this has ever happened to me," said Marion, Ohio, voter Joan Stevens.
Stevens said that when she voted, it took her three tries before the machine accepted her choice to vote for Romney.
"I went to vote and I got right in the middle of Romney's name," Stevens told Fox News, saying that she was certain to put her finger directly on her choice for the White House.
She said that the first time she pushed "Romney," the machine marked "Obama."
So she pushed Romney again. Obama came up again. Then it happened a third time
"Maybe you make a mistake once, but not three times," she told Fox News.
Marion County Board of Elections Director Sophie Rogers, though, said: "My personal opinion is that she hit it too hard."
"We've noticed people just punch on them. She might not have hit the square that she wanted," Rogers said.
Rogers insists there are no problems with the touch-screen machines in Marion County and that after learning of Stevens' complaint she took the machine out of circulation and had it reexamined and recalibrated. She says there was nothing wrong with the machine to begin with.
But in response to the growing number of complaints, the Republican National Committee has sent a letter to election officials in six states -- Ohio, Nevada, Kansas, North Carolina, Missouri and Colorado -- demanding tighter controls on touch-screen machines.
The RNC wants the machines to be re-tested, more technicians added to fix any problems, and verbal reminders given by election workers telling voters to double check their ballots.

Multiple voters from several states wrote Fox News to report problems similar to what Stevens reported.
One voter asked: "I wonder how many voters just hit the 'Cast Ballot' without reading the machine?"
"How can we be sure our votes are not being stolen electronically?" asked another.
One expert warns it can happen.
"Vote jumping complaints have arisen in every election that uses touch-screen voting machines, with the complaints going both ways," said Barbara Simons, author of the new book "Broken Ballots: Will Your Vote Count?"
Simons, an expert on electronic voting who is on the Board of Advisors of the U.S. Election Commission, said there is good reason for people not to trust the older touch-screen machines.
She said, "This phenomenon can occur when a machine goes out of calibration. The need to re-calibrate frequently is an important reason for discarding these aging, unreliable, and inaccurate machines and replacing them with paper ballots."  
Frequently recalibrating the machines is one of the RNC demands.
But election officials insist that the machines are practically foolproof.  They say any problems are due to human error, and that tinkering with machines is almost impossible.
"It is nearly technically impossible to pre-program the voting machines in Nevada to vote for a specified candidate," said Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller, in a statement to Fox News.
He said machines are tested by each of the state's 17 counties individually.
"While it is possible for a voter to inadvertently select a candidate, it is not possible for the machine to automatically select a candidate."
Miller notes that similar allegations were investigated in his state during the 2010 election, with the assistance of the FBI.  Authorities found that claims that machines "were pre-programmed, malfunctioning or in any way preventing any voter from casting a ballot for the candidate of their choice were without merit."
Miller, a Democrat, brands the Republican demand to election officials as "based upon rumor, hearsay, or unconfirmed media reports," as well as "irresponsible" and "unfortunate."
He said his office has "not received any direct, first-hand complaints from voters."
In Ohio, touch-screen machines, for example, are being used in Lorain County with no reported "switched votes" or operational issues.
"We haven't had any problems with the touch screens this year and everything is going well," Lorain County Board of Elections Director Paul Adams told Fox News.
His county has used touch-screen machines since 2005.
Adams, a veteran election official, said that in his county, machines are not electronically designed to be able to change choices, and there is no way for anybody to rig a machine or pre-program its choices for one candidate or a slate.  
"We have heard of these issues in some of the other counties. We had sporadic issues a few years ago, and since then we have upgraded our software and our board has replaced most of our touch-screen unit screens if there were any problems with them. And since we've done that about a year and a half ago, we haven't had any major issues."
Lorain County did replace 400 of its 1,200 touch screen machines last year.
Adams also notes that there is what is called "a paper trial," like a receipt, where voters can see their choices printed out. He also says that anybody who has a problem voting should immediately tell elections officials.
While Fox News spent the day at the County Board of Elections, where early voting was taking place, election workers were doing just that.
One woman's long fingernails blocked her selection, until she moved the angle of her fingers to get it right.
An elderly man did not realize that he did not cast a vote for president, so a worker did exactly what Adam advises. She walked the voter through the process.  
"I pushed the button!" the man declared.
"You might have accidently hit it twice. Just lightly tap it, real light," advised the worker.
She also showed the voter the paper evidence of his votes to confirm them.
"Are you satisfied?"
"Yes, thank you very much," the voter replied.
Nevertheless, Joan, who said she finally was able to cast a correct vote after three attempts, advises fellow voters to confirm their choices.
"Be very careful when you vote. I don't care who you vote for, just double-check."
If you suspect problems and the polls or voter fraud where you live, tell us:

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Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: America2 on November 03, 2012, 02:51:22 pm
Even Homer Simpson knows what they're going through...
Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 03, 2012, 02:54:16 pm
Voting Machines Auto-Selecting Obama; Calibration issue or are they Hacked?

Numerous reports are surfacing about touch screen voting machines automatically selecting Obama, even when Mitt Romney was chosen. Even when Mitt was repeatedly pressed, the system selected Obama. Is this a touchscreen calibration issue, or could the machines have been hacked?
According to Foxnews one voter had to press Romney three times before it would take:
“She said that the first time she pushed “Romney,” the machine marked “Obama.” So she pushed Romney again. Obama came up again. Then it happened a third time. “Maybe you make a mistake once, but not three times,” she told Fox News.“
It could be a calibration issue, “This phenomenon can occur when a machine goes out of calibration. The need to re-calibrate frequently is an important reason for discarding these aging, unreliable, and inaccurate machines and replacing them with paper ballots,” said Barbara Simons a member of the US Election Board of Advisors.
And according to reports, in one location a machine that was suspect was taken out of service and recalibrated. But with reports coming in from several states, concerning numerous machines, could something else be going on?

A year ago the Vulnerability Asset Team of Argonne National Lab showed that some of the touchscreen voting devices could be hacked very easily. According to a CNNMoney report, on one model all it would take would be physical access to the system, a paper clip, and about $20 worth of electronics. And in under a minute they could have remote access to the device with the ability to change someone’s vote.
“When I touch the touchscreen, that is going to send a signal to the CPU“, says Jon Warner of Argonne Laboratory in the video above. “Well, the CPU is going to respond back with something. And all I did was intercept that communication flow. If I like the vote, fine, let it go through. If I don’t, I change it.”
Many of these machines have the ability to dump a printed copy of who was voted for, but shockingly some do not, and there is no way to physically validate the votes.
Calibration issue or not, this is going to be a very close election and it does not bode well that there are already issues with the voting systems.
Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 03, 2012, 03:23:26 pm

Will the 2012 election be stolen?  And if it is... can the theft be reversed?


I'll offer just one detail here, though it screams the travesty. In most blue states (e.g. California) the voting machines are either fed a hand-marked paper ballot to read, or else they provide a printed receipt that the voter can inspect and drop into a separate box. Either way, all votes made in that precinct can be audited.  No matter how many back doors and cheats might be built secretly into the machines or programs, no one will dare pull a major electronic switcheroo, if enough precincts will be randomly hand-counted and audited.

The same is not true in many red states, where GOP-run legislatures gave voting machine contracts to a trio of companies alll of whom have strong Republican Party connections. (The address of one of those companies?  ES&S: 11208 John Galt Blvd. Omaha, NE   I kid you not.  John Galt Blvd.)

Moreover, in most red states that use electronic voting, the process does not involve a separate box of auditable paper ballots. No way for anyone to catch a glitch or falsified result.  Now why... why would they do that? Why would anyone do that, except in deliberate furtherance of fraud?

This potential theft will be exacerbated by the fact that news organizations and polling firms are cutting down on exit polls, this year.  Exit polling has proved to be a major deterrent to cheating, because of its high degree of accuracy.  In precincts that are neither exit-polled nor auditable by paper receipts anything -- including skullduggery and cheating -- can happen.  And many folks expect that cheating will happen... say in Virginia or Florida... if the election is tight.

Now, at a macro level, this says an awful lot about the deep and growing difference in philosophy and psychology in Blue viz Red America. An attitude of win-at-any-cost prevails as a way of life in one realm, while the other moves deliberately in the opposite direction, toward accountability and adult behavior.  Want backup for that assertion?  Only in blue states have citizen revolts ended the foul practice of gerrymandering, returning a meaningful choice to voters.  In California, for example, districts are now compact, reasonable, and are much more competitive, giving citizens some real leverage, for a change. Even if you are a republican living in a largely democratic district, as the Berman-Sherman run-off shows, you now have a chance to be heard and heeded, as never before, because gerrymandering, a blatant crime, is gone in California.

No red state has done this.  The picture is complete; and I will say it even more starkly, below.

But first... I must now stop talking to the majority of you and address the bulk of message to a very small subset. (The rest of you are welcome to listen in! This involves you too.)
Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 03, 2012, 03:37:13 pm
Argonne researchers 'hack' Diebold e-voting system (

In the latest experiment, the Argonne researchers showed how a Diebold Accuvote TS touch screen voting machine can be compromised by inserting a man-in-the middle electronic component to intercept the vote cast by a voter and change it before it is recorded by the system.

Johnston said the machine is "incredibly easy to tamper with" because all the crucial electronic components are accessible and can be easily modified. The Accuvote TS' enclosure isn't tamper resistant so hjackers can work on the machine without leaving visible signs, he added.
"All we had to do was find out what the machine was doing in terms of communication," Johnston said. "We just had to understand the various components and how the data was being sent. We needed to understand what signal had to be sent to fool the machine into thinking the voter had touched the screen at a particular location."
The experiment shows that e-voting systems are susceptible to more than just cyberattacks, which get the most attention but are harder to pull off as the perpetrators must have some knowledge of the machine's software, hardware and firmware.

The so-called man-in-the-middle attacks don't require knowledge of the voting machine's proprietary software or hardware, Johnston said. "All you need to do is understand the communication between the different parts of the system. Then you just sit there and listen and do whatever mischief you want to.".
Obama Makes Campaign Speech to Diebold Voting Machines
By Jonathan D. Hodges, on July 25th, 2012

In a campaign stop through the Diebold Factory in Mapusa, India, President Barack Obama took time to speak to the machines that may very well decide the 2012 Presidential Election.

“In order of importance, my three favorite machines are you [Diebold], my teleprompter, and predator surveillance drones. My opponent underestimates your value and importance, so I urge you to make the correct choice this November.”

After making these promises, most of the voting machines lit up and began flashing pre-election results ranging from “Obama 58% – Romney 42%” to “Obama 72% – Romney 18%.” Some of the machines were so excited that their systems started to crash, similar to Obama’s human supporters who faint at his campaign rallies.

Concluding his speech, the President said “You came through for my friend Rahm Emanuel in Chicago and Charles Rangel in NYC, and I have faith that you’ll rig the game for me as well. Thank you, and may Allah Bless America.”

~ End of Transcript
Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: Stan on November 03, 2012, 11:13:07 pm
If you suspect problems and the polls or voter fraud where you live, tell us:

You've got to love that email name. How about Electionfraud instead? It not only points to the real problem but it also covers voter fraud. Can't have that though.
Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: America2 on November 04, 2012, 08:19:10 am
I don't know who's going to "win", but after the way Ron Paul supporters/delegates got treated at the's not like Romney can have his cake and eat it too.

And of course Bush II won Ohio(and the election) in 2004 b/c of DieBold.
Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: decemberfellow on November 04, 2012, 08:25:17 am
The only votes that will truly without a doubt be counted as voted will be third party unless it shows one might need a few of those to win.
Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: decemberfellow on November 04, 2012, 08:32:56 am
May be a good idea to write your vote on election form as well. or take a picture of the voting screen before you send it.
Title: Re: Voting Machines for Obama
Post by: TahoeBlue on November 06, 2012, 04:53:23 pm
Finally a vote flipping story for the Rominee...
PA voting machine ‘taken out of service’ for flipping votes to Romney: report

A voting machine in Pennsylvania was “taken out of service” for flipping votes for President Barack Obama to Republican challenger Mitt Romney, MSNBC reporter Zachary Roth confirmed Tuesday afternoon.
Raw Story (
Title: Voting Machines flipping for Obama or Romney
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