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Title: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 18, 2008, 08:36:55 am
I have been a comic book fan for years, and I have just recently noticed a lot of tie-ins with the NWO/Illuminati/Mason symbology. Let me start with the most obvious.

(http://i9.tinypic.com/6q01jza.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(Marvel_Comics)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 18, 2008, 01:09:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRQeXazsEt8
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on January 18, 2008, 01:49:10 pm
Seal Lion is great!  I spent some time a few days ago watching his contact and K2 series.  It's incredible that he can make all of those connections...  I haven't watched the comic book stuff, yet, but I'm sure it is interesting.  What do you think about synchromysticism?  Do you think it is a conspiracy of writers or proof of a subconscious connection between all people?  Or is Seal Lion just good at making connections?  It certainly seems like he has found underlying themes that permeate throughout our culture.

I was never into comic books, but I liked superheroes...and the recent move to put comic books and graphic novels on the big screen has given me some interest.  There is a graphic novel series of Stephen King's Gunslinger series...which is a story Seal Lion would love.  I think the graphics will be the base for movies.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 18, 2008, 01:55:10 pm
Seal Lion does have some great videos. I havn't checked out the sychromysticism yet. I am not sure what he is trying to say with the stargate references.

I am also a huge Dark Tower Fan.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on January 18, 2008, 02:14:35 pm

I am also a huge Dark Tower Fan.

I think those books are pure genius!  I have always loved King and when I started to realize that most of his career tied into this one series, I was floored.  It's brilliant.  I guess there is a book out that is a study of those books from a lady involved in the graphic series.  It is supposed to tie even more things together than are obvious in the books.  I have only seen the first graphic book, but it was very cool...

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Div on January 19, 2008, 02:20:04 am
I read the Spawn comincs awhile ago, those were pretty cool. Not sure about any NWO stuff in McFarlane's work however.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 19, 2008, 08:54:07 am
(http://i10.tinypic.com/6kqhmjr.jpg)
The Golden Age Flash

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Mercury
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 19, 2008, 10:50:30 am
I read the Spawn comincs awhile ago, those were pretty cool. Not sure about any NWO stuff in McFarlane's work however.
I don't know of any Spawn NWO/illuminati connection, other than Spawn being a Leuitenant in Satan's army.

 (http://i14.tinypic.com/71z0cyc.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: chinajim on January 19, 2008, 01:49:24 pm
Check out The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie and of course the comic book series I do belive the writer is an occultist. Me I liked the movie and comics because it brought together the characters I grew up reading about The comics especially have a lot of Masonic symbols and the plot is very NWO as well so check it out.
                                                                                                                         regards
                                                                                                                       China Jim
                                       
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 24, 2008, 05:06:04 pm
Check out The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie and of course the comic book series I do belive the writer is an occultist. Me I liked the movie and comics because it brought together the characters I grew up reading about The comics especially have a lot of Masonic symbols and the plot is very NWO as well so check it out.
                                                                                                                         regards
                                                                                                                       China Jim
                                       

Total occultist. He talks about it in this interview.

http://www.ninthart.com/display.php?article=536

He also wrote V for Vendetta and the Watchmen, the later dealing with a plot by an Egyptian inspired super hero's plot ot unify the world by staging a fake alien invasion.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 24, 2008, 06:59:28 pm
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2m3l183.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: thrashbassist on January 24, 2008, 07:00:29 pm
Wow.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Joe(WI) on January 24, 2008, 07:35:16 pm
If you think the comics are bad, in "Scrapped Princess" anime, they tell you the world population WAS limited to 500 mill, all tech was at middle ages. In almost all animes, it's trendy to have only 1 parent, if any. Or have to off them(Guyver). In "Ugly, Yet Beautiful World", you are told global mass extinctions are merely "survival of the fittest wiping out the unfit, move along, nothing to see here". Chimeras? Isle 4-"Tokyo Mew Mew". Cybernetic implants? Cloning? Isle 8-"Bubblegum crisis EVA", "Neon Genesis Evangellion". Also has twisted satanism throughout, Morduk, Lilith,...  Organ harvesting? Try under "Vandread", "Vandread, Second Stage". Sick and twisted homocide/genocide/suicide? PICK NEARLY ANY!!! Bounty hunting? "Cowboy BeBop" Transhumanism? "Project Appleseed"

About the only one that isn't warped I could find was called "Heroic Age", Man realises space travel and has conflict with the misinformed stellar community. Actually turns out well, nice stargate there!

My point is the young Japanese are being mind warped beyond what our teenagers with shooters are, to totally accept the NWO and desensitize.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: thrashbassist on January 24, 2008, 07:45:26 pm
I could never get into that stuff. I tried watching anime several times in the past and it's just packed with redundancy. That is if I can even make it past the poppy intro music. I know you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but it annoys the hell out of me to the point where I want to do harm to my tv.

I have a younger cousin that's really into that though, I'll keep an eye out on what she's watching. Pretty sick that they're teaching children that these kind of ideas are cool. But I guess I'm not really one to talk, with all my occult tattoos, long hair and metal projects... But then again, I know clearly the line between fantasy and reality, as well as right and wrong. A 15 year old, however, is very impressionable, that's the generation they're trying to take anyway.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 24, 2008, 09:52:52 pm
From 1992

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 27, 2008, 04:41:51 pm
I was going through some old comics and found this from Firestorm #55 Jan 1 1987. It is very eerie.
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It is kind of hard to read the words from the scan, so I will reprint it here.

First caption
"The asphalt had boiled off the cracked and broken pavement. Stone and steel have melted like wax down the front of the buildings. To lie in flaming pools of slag upon the blistered Earth."

Second caption
"Thousands of people had remained in those buildings during the battle, trusting to the stone and steel, trusting to their champions, the heroes gifted with powers and abilities far beyond the abilities of mortal mankind, to protect them and keep them safe from harm."

Third caption
"Of those people, not even ash remains."

I don't think comic book writers and artists are in on any kind of conspiracy but using a form of precog they probably don't even know they have.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on January 27, 2008, 04:53:33 pm
Ford, you have found some really cool stuff!  Keep it coming.   :)

That melted slag stuff is spooky...
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on January 27, 2008, 06:35:57 pm
How bout game cards?

http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Div on January 29, 2008, 04:12:05 pm
I saw a few good anime shows, alot of them are geared for younger kids and marketing action figures than completing a story. But one called "Monster" was pretty classy and one of the best psychological thrillers I've seen.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Joe(WI) on January 29, 2008, 07:05:58 pm
I forgot the link, Steve Jackson games-Illuminatti. The Towers card has them on fire, etc, etc, etc
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 29, 2008, 08:16:09 pm
Justice League of America #40 July 1990

In this issue, the alien menace Despero, who has an eye in the middle of his forhead, destroys first New York city and then the world, while wearing a U.N. flag as a cape. (dream sequence)

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Despero's speach about humanity.

Caption 1

"A useless mirage."

Caption 2

"Snuffed out now and forgotton."

Caption 3

"As her teammates soon will be."

Caption 4

"Heroes they call themselves; risking their lives for ideas and ideals. Risking their lives for illusions."

Caption 5

"These heroes attach so much importance to their illusions. Lip service; but their hearts are rank, vile."

Caption 6

"Like the people of my homeworld... They claimed to be peacefull and loving; idealists of the first order."

Caption 7

"Till I was born among them; a mutant, feared and shunned. Spat upon. Laughed at. Locked away."

Caption 8

"The woman who birthed me showed me tenderness; fed my dreams of hope... and they murdered her for it.

Caption 9

"Just as they sought to murder me."

Caption 10

"But I murdered their world instead. Rose up and clamed it for my own."
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 29, 2008, 08:21:53 pm
continued from above

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2lvimq9.jpg)

Notice the unfinished pyramids on the bridge underneath the exploding WTC.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 31, 2008, 10:51:24 pm
From Marvel Two in One #100 June 1983. In this issue, the Thing travels to an alternate reality where he is not the Thing and Galactus has drained the Earth of it's natural resources. He is captured by the Red Skull, who has set up headquarters in a bombed out WTC.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 01, 2008, 10:37:22 pm
This one from 1963 shows planes attacking towers,

(http://i26.tinypic.com/9bkheb.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Div on February 02, 2008, 08:12:23 pm
(http://www.afrik.com/IMG/arton9667.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 06, 2008, 09:33:51 pm
I find this stuff fascinating.

The Light Bringer
(http://i32.tinypic.com/16atlxw.jpg)

A steel building melting, in 1945
(http://i27.tinypic.com/jb4a9z.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 10, 2008, 06:24:55 pm
Dec 1967

(http://i25.tinypic.com/2l945eo.jpg)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2i1jb7r.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Joe(WI) on February 10, 2008, 08:23:10 pm
last one a bit too subtle. Like I said, look up just about ANY anime. They are in your face NWO training aids for Japan, like the coloring books for young Mexicans.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Optimus on February 10, 2008, 08:38:44 pm
NEW WORLD ORDER #1
story GUSTAVO HIGUERA
art GIUSEPPE DE LUCA
cover JUAN FERREYRA

"DAWN OF A NEW DAY"
Inspired by the research of occult master Jordan Maxwell - the man who exposed the Illuminati - New World Order is the untold story of the "Lonely Ones", the real-life truth seekers who are attempting to awaken the masses to a world that is torn between its own unlimited potential for greatness?and self-destruction!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12099

(http://images.comicbookresources.com/solicits/imagecomics/200801/newworldorder01.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 10, 2008, 09:10:49 pm
I started reading comic books back when I was 12 years-old (in 1989/1990).  I started with Moon Knight, but Spiderman and X-men would eventually become my favorites.  Also, like many I was awed by the Japanese Robotech series which was broadcast on KTTV (http://www.genwi.com/play/1569063) in my area (Orange County/LA).  KTTV would become a Fox Affiliate in 1986 - purchased by News Corp.)  This later led to a fascination with anime and manga (Japanese comic books) during my teenage years.  I can attest to all the NWO/Illuminati programming present in Japanese pop-culture.

In my early twenties I saw a history channel documentary on comic books (http://www.amazon.com/Time-Machine-Superheroes-Unmasked-History/dp/B000AABKZE) which made me realize how cynically comic books were used to propagandize and brainwash children.  Clear social, political, and even spiritual programming.  Like many fields of entertainment, comic books were originally dominated by Jewish authors and creators.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Azariah on February 10, 2008, 09:25:28 pm
thanx for posting these Ford. those is crazy!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 10, 2008, 10:44:35 pm
G.Joe - The Pyramid of Darkness (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=G.I.+Joe+The+Pyramid+of+Darkness&search_type=&search=Search)

http://www.joeheadquarters.com/pyramids.shtml
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 11, 2008, 12:39:30 am
G.I. Joe The Pyramid of Darkness Part 4 3/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lul-LWxjIYM

Twin Towers under the shadow of the Pyramid of Darkness (1:55)


G.I. Joe The Pyramid of Darkness Part 5 3/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbky1JMmqgY

Cobra Commander and the Crimson Twins flee to the Twin Towers (Enterprise Towers)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 11, 2008, 01:22:13 am
Exodus, The Temple of Set, and The Pyramid of Darkness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_QCldF2CO8
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 11, 2008, 07:53:30 am
I started reading comic books back when I was 12 years-old (in 1989/1990).  I started with Moon Knight, but Spiderman and X-men would eventually become my favorites.  Also, like many I was awed by the Japanese Robotech series which was broadcast on KTTV (http://www.genwi.com/play/1569063) in my area (Orange County/LA).  KTTV would become a Fox Affiliate in 1986 - purchased by News Corp.)  This later led to a fascination with anime and manga (Japanese comic books) during my teenage years.  I can attest to all the NWO/Illuminati programming present in Japanese pop-culture.

In my early twenties I saw a history channel documentary on comic books (http://www.amazon.com/Time-Machine-Superheroes-Unmasked-History/dp/B000AABKZE) which made me realize how cynically comic books were used to propagandize and brainwash children.  Clear social, political, and even spiritual programming.  Like many fields of entertainment, comic books were originally dominated by Jewish authors and creators.



I would have liked to have seen that.
I don't know if all comics are still being used to propagandize and brainwash though, A lot of the ones that I posted above are prophetic more than anything else. I have seen many comics where fiction is used to inform.
In this clip, Luthor hacks into the JLA satelite and fires a laser into a secret military underground base, thus depicting a "false flag" attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdsl3Tfo_-s
 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 12, 2008, 02:46:49 am
I would have liked to have seen that.
I don't know if all comics are still being used to propagandize and brainwash though, A lot of the ones that I posted above are prophetic more than anything else. I have seen many comics where fiction is used to inform.
In this clip, Luthor hacks into the JLA satelite and fires a laser into a secret military underground base, thus depicting a "false flag" attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdsl3Tfo_-s
 

Sure, you're right. It's not like everyone ever employed in the comic book industry (or film, television, etc.) is knowingly working for the dark side.  I agree that some of the the scenes and story-lines concerning the Twin Towers could have been prophetic or seeking to warn due to insider knowledge.  I wonder if Sealion or anyone else has done a study comparing the number of times the WTC has been attacked, damaged, or destroyed in fiction compared to the number of the times the same has been done to the Empire State Building, the Statue of Liberty, the White House, Big Ben, the Eiffel Tower, and other important landmarks.  The evidence would be really conclusive if we could show that the WTC were destroyed more often and with more occult symbolism. 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 12, 2008, 04:43:26 am
Thought of you tonight, Ford.  Saw a Simpsons Episode with Alan Moore in it...Wikipedia says this about the episode:

Moore played himself in the 2007 episode "Husbands and Knives" of The Simpsons, alongside actor Jack Black and other comic book writers like Dan Clowes and Art Spiegelman. This episode aired on Moore's fifty-fourth birthday. Moore recorded his lines in October 2006. Moore is a fan of the show.

He flies off the handle while at a signing event.  Pretty funny.  Milhouse asks him to sign a copy of Watchmen Babies: V for Vacation.  :D  Moore goes off on corporations.  Here is just that part of the episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRau41QW74Y
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 12, 2008, 05:52:54 am
Hahahaha! That was hilarious!

Here is one of my favorites, just for fun.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6Rq7EA9xc
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 12, 2008, 11:41:42 am
 :D :D :D :D

That's hysterical!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 17, 2008, 05:13:10 pm
I'ts been a few days, so here are a couple more.

I am Legend
(http://i28.tinypic.com/m7yphw.jpg)

This one needs no explanation.
(http://i31.tinypic.com/riyjcg.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 19, 2008, 08:35:25 pm
Wow! I have found some stuff from the old comic Strange adventures.

Planet x
(http://i26.tinypic.com/el66mh.jpg)

Cavemen in New york. I see this one as a return to nature after the population reduction.
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2jbwr43.jpg)

And here are a couple with planes flying into buildings.
(http://i30.tinypic.com/c84gi.jpg)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/28ji0i1.jpg)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 23, 2008, 08:32:04 pm
Sealion is sort of strange.  He seems to buy into the basic Illuminati view of the nature of reality.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 23, 2008, 09:43:48 pm
Recently, I wrote a paper where I related the strange story concerning the time when a couple of comic books became intimately connected with one of the significant events of my young life.

Ms. Blades (my teacher)
English 101
12 February 2008

The Synchronicity of Angels

I was fifteen years-old when I first encountered the singular principle of synchronicity.  Of course, I had no consciousness of it at the time.  Only the knowledge acquired by my future self enabled me later to reflect upon this moment as the first recognizable instance of harmonious ‘together-time’ in my life.
   It was late at on a Friday night of in the summer of 1992.  It wasn’t too many years before that the Berlin Wall had fallen, the Soviet Union had collapsed, and the United States had waged war against Iraq in the Middle East.  But, as a soon-to-be high school sophomore living in dream-like Orange County, California, I was only superficially aware of these facts.   I was sitting on the blue L-shaped couch in my living room, re-reading some comics books I had just purchased that afternoon, when I heard the phone ring.  Not long after, my mother came in and commanded simply, “Put your shoes on.”
   While I was not altogether keen to obey, her abrupt tone and manner brooked no debate.  Wordlessly, I complied, being informed as I did so that it was the hospital that had called.  This was the hospital where my father had just undergone an angioplasty, which was supposed to have been a success.  My father, John Christian R. IV*, was a sports radio broadcaster who had been employed by Cal State Fullerton for ten years during the 80’s, calling the play-by-play for the Titan’s baseball, basketball, and football progams.  However, he had recently been hired by the radio station KMPC to do the same for UCLA Bruin’s football.  His career was really starting to take-off.  He had even filled-in on a couple of Angels’ games earlier that summer, drawing ever closer to his most fervent dream of becoming a Major League Baseball broadcaster.  Nearing the end of his forty-first year, my father was about to start his second season as UCLA’s play-by-play announcer.  But then he began to have severe chest pains. 
It’s difficult now to remember what exactly was going through my mind at the time, but I don’t think I  allowed myself to dwell much on what the phone call might portend.  It was enough to find my way out of the house and slide into the backseat of the car.  Soon we were driving down the street, my older half-brother, Michael, at the wheel, heading directly for the home of my sister’s friend.  There she was spending the night, just a few blocks away, within the confines of our suburban tract neighborhood.  Kristen Michelle was bleary-eyed as she plopped onto the backseat and at first seemed to have trouble remembering how to operate the seatbelt.  A few strands of her long, red hair caught within the door, so she opened it again to free them, then turned as if to speak.  Seeming to sense this, our mother turned her head.  Kristen quickly changed her mind when she saw the steel in mother’s eyes. 
Within minutes our white Grand Marquis was driving up the freeway entrance, first traveling east on the 91, then transferring north to the Interstate 5.  At one point Kristen became bold enough to venture a single question, “What’s happening, mother?”
But our mother did not respond.  She simply stared straight ahead through the windshield as the city lights and the lines of the road streaked by.  Quiet midnight surrounded us and silence filled the car as my sister perhaps realized our journey had only one possible destination:  Los Angeles, the City of Angels.  And the Good Samaritan Hospital where our father had undergone surgery just a few short hours before.
   As the freeway was practically empty, we made very good time.  Soon we were navigating L.A.’s surface streets, then arriving in the parking lot of the hospital itself.  Upon entering the sterile halls of the Good Samaritan, we were quietly ushered into a large operating room.  There lay the still, motionless form of my father, John Christian R. IV.  It was now around one-o’ in the morning.  We later learned that he had died shortly after midnight. 
   Kristen was in tears.  As for myself, I displayed no such emotion.  Although my mind registered an intense shock, I could only gaze silently upon the cold, dead body of my father.  I did not approach him, and no tears welled up in my eyes.  Although this man had brought seed into my mother’s womb, which helped form me and my younger sister, he had not been a true father to me.  The usual bond of a father and son did not exist between us.  He was my biological progenitor and little more.  Unfortunately, that was something my mother did not understand.  No sign of mourning being noted in her elder son, Michael, she could accept, for he was a child of her first husband.  But she regarded me coldly, flinging piercing icy daggers from her eyes.  It seemed that Linda Carol, beautiful song (and that she is) felt somehow betrayed by her son.  A terse order issued from her lips.  “Touch him,” she said, “He’s your father.” 
   I complied, though I knew that her statement was no longer true in any sense.  What lay before me now was just an empty shell.  The life was gone, the spirit had departed the body.  My father was dead.

   Upon returning to our home in west Fullerton, no one spoke.  Everyone but me went to bed.  I knew attempting to sleep would be futile, so I soon resumed re-reading my comic books in the living room.  The first one I began to read was called WildC.A.T.S. (C.A.T.S being an acronym for Covert Action Teams).  The story described the millennia-old conflict  between two races of aliens who had crash-landed on earth in the distant past.  The Kherubim were human in appearance yet wielded supernatural powers, while the monstrous Daemonites had the ability to possess humans, to inhabit their bodies and control their minds.  On the first page (of the first issue of this new title released by the start-up company, Image Comics,) I received something of a shock.  Apparently, someone had discovered a mysterious orb in the northern wastes of Russia**.  But what truly disturbed me was a caption which related the date of this discovery:  August 9, 1992.  In what seemed a bizarre coincidence, that just happened to be this day, the very day my father had died.  As if that was not strange enough, I next read the second issue Spawn, a supernaturally-themed comic concerning a murdered CIA agent;  he was brought back from the dead by the Devil with supernatural powers.  This ‘gift’ was in return for his services and in hopes of seeing his wife again.  In one intensely violent scene from Spawn #2, a demon named The Violator savagely ripped somebody’s heart out.  Now my father had heart disease.  His first heart attack occurred when he was only twenty-nine, and he had open-heart surgery in his mid-thirties.  He finally succumbed to the disease after his angioplasty operation failed. 
   At the time, I had no word to describe these peculiar ‘coincidences’.  However, several years later, in 2001 when I was twenty-four years-old, I would stumble upon the concept of synchronicity.  Wikipedia offers the following definition:  “Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events which occur in a meaningful manner, but which are causally un-related. In order to be synchronous, the events must be related to one another conceptually, and the chance that they would occur together by random chance must be very small.  (Wikipedia the Free Encyclopedia Web Page.  11 Feb. 2008 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity>).  While some may believe this idea to be mystical and strange, I am certainly not the only one who has ever had such an experience.  Certainly events simply cannot be explained without acknowledging the spiritual nature of our reality.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2080/2286815975_dcb71f37c4_o.jpg)

The title of the story in issue #1 is "Resurrection Day".


*My name isn't John Christian -- V.  My father decided not to burden me with the title due to his memories of being ridiculed at school.

**Correction:  the online summaries record that the orb was found by a Daemonite in Antarctica, so I must have remembered incorrectly.  Void, a character named who appeared in the scene, was originally a Russian cosmonaut from Archangel (Arkhangelsk), so I must have merged her nationality with the location of the orb's discovery in my memory.

Another connection/synchronicity between my life and Image Comics.  I grew up in Fullerton, CA (and was living there when my father died), which is where Rob Liefeld, one of the founders of Image made his home at the time.  Liefeld's Young Blood (government superhero team) would later guest-star in that same WildC.A.T.s miniseries.  Incidentally, Fullerton, CA is where Philip K. Dick was living when he had his visions (http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/Realitys%20Hidden%20Minority%20Report.html). (Read under the sub-heading Divine Invasion.)  Note that I do no5 support Dick's beliefs, as he seems to have become heavily influenced by Gnosticism after his experience in Feb. of 1974.  VALIS (1981), the first in his gnostic-themed series, was featured in the latest episode of Lost (on Feb. 21).
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 24, 2008, 01:57:54 pm
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Sealion is sort of strange.  He seems to buy into the basic Illuminati view of the nature of reality.

Yea, he does. I have thought alot about this recently, and I am starting to think he may be correct. Coincideces happen for a reason, and everything is part of a pattern. Just because the Illuminati/masons/Nwo use secret knowledge for plots of world domination, it does not invalidate the information itself.

 
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Certainly events simply cannot be explained without acknowledging the spiritual nature of our reality.

I don't completely understand what is going on with the synchronicity, but I have seen enough to know that something strange is going on.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 24, 2008, 02:29:00 pm
Yea, he does. I have thought alot about this recently, and I am starting to think he may be correct. Coincideces happen for a reason, and everything is part of a pattern. Just because the Illuminati/masons/Nwo use secret knowledge for plots of world domination, it does not invalidate the information itself.

 
I don't completely understand what is going on with the synchronicity, but I have seen enough to know that something strange is going on.



The main drive of the Illuminati is apotheosis, the deification of man.  Man as god.  Which is exactly what the serpent has always promised. 

"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:  For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."  (KJV Genesis 3:4-5)

And then there's the favorite number of Skull and Bones:

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Have you ever researched how the Babylonian/Egyptian Mystery Schools and Gnosticism/Luciferian doctrines infiltrated Christianity and created the Roman Catholic Church?

I recommend watching a couple of lectures which expose the occult foundation of the New World Order in great detail:

The Secret Behind The Secret Societies (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7013421096414981486&q=Total+Onslaught&total=100&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8)

Hidden Agendas (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869614609770971945&q=Total+Onslaught&total=100&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)

Also, do you know much about the Nephilim?

Nephilim Rising - UFOs and the New World Order (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=19789.msg73479#msg73479)



Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 24, 2008, 02:51:14 pm
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The main drive of the Illuminati is apotheosis, the deification of man.  Man as god.  Which is exactly what the serpent has always promised.
 

I want to make it very clear that I hate the Illuminati. My son has Autism.

I was refering to the belief they seem to have about coincidences, and things being interconnected. I don't understand it all, but there is something to it.

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Have you ever researched how the Babylonian/Egyptian Mystery Schools and Gnosticism/Luciferian doctrines infiltrated Christianity and created the Roman Catholic Church?

When I was younger there was a series of comic books that delved into this. I no longer have them but I do remember the basic idea. However it started, I do know the Catholics I have met and befriended over the years are good people.

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Also, do you know much about the Nephilim?

Yea, I did a little research on them when I first started waking up. It raised more questions than answers. Like, if a person has Nephilim and human ancestery, do they have a soul? And if you think Nephilum are spirits who inhabit human bodies, do the Nephilum know they are Nephilum? I decided not to follow that slippery slope, because it would be easier to explain how 9-11 was an inside job, and how we are being poisoned with vaccines. Who is at the top of the conspiracy? Some say it is the Catholic church, Some say it is the Zionists, or the Jesuits, while others say it is lizard people. I myself have no idea, but I do know that if things like 9-11 and 7-7 become exposed, then subsequent investigations will lead to answers. (And probably more questions as well.)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 24, 2008, 02:55:37 pm
Soundlessdawn is another synchromysticist on You Tube.  He and Seallion often reference each other.  


Philip K. Dick believed that our world was a matrix...that an ancient satellite, artificial intelligence blinded us at birth from the truth of our existence.  He believed that this world was an "ironbar prison" or prison planet.  That the prison was designed by an evil and hateful god who feeds on pain and misery.  

PKD believed that all humans are like emmisaries sent here by the true and just creator of the universe, to break the hold of this "dark child".  But, the matrix and the trauma of birth make us forget our mission and we become lost.  He believed that the God of Light was fighting on the outside, and that we are supposed to fight from the inside.

Dick was quoted as saying, "God is in the trash."  He didn't mean this literally.  What he meant was that, the true God is constantly destroying the evil illusion.  This is why nothing lasts forever, and all things decay.  Without, physically destroying the satellite, though, the AI keeps reconstructing the illusion at a rate equal to the destruction...this explains the seasons and rebirth of nature.

PKD called the satellite VALIS.  

Dick based his theories on gnostic christianity and his own divinations from the Chinese "oracle", the I Ching.  


Dick also describes an experience he had in 1974 where he felt that he connected with his true eternal self.  He said that for a short period the illusion fell away and he saw the world for what it was...timeless.  He describes being able to see overlaying civilizations which were seperated by time...but interacting on the same plane.  

His description of the experience reminds me of Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edwin A. Abbott.  It is the story of a two dimensional character who is a straight line.  Abbott describes this character as looking like this from either end:  .   from the side: ___
The Line ends up meeting a three dimensional character...a sphere.  The line can't comprehend what he is seeing.  
Very short and simple read.  If you have kids, they might enjoy hearing it read outloud(Abbott was an English clergyman, and wrote the story in 1884.  He was an educator.)  It is a good intro to the idea of multi-dimensional space.  Has math and science aps also.  The Dover Thrift Edition is only a dollar at most independent and college bookstores.

I think anyone who likes this thread would probably enjoy the fiction of Phil Dick.  Many of his stories have recently been made into films(Blade Runner, Total Recall, Minority Report, Paycheck, Next, A Scanner Darkly).

PKD wrote a trilogy of books based on his experience( Valis, The Divine Invasion, and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer)  
Vintage Books describes The Divine Invasion:

"In The Divine Invasion, Philip K. Dick asks: What if God- or a being called YAH -were alive and in exile on a distant planet?  How could a second coming succeed against the high technology and finely tuned rationalized evil of the modern police state."  - VB, 1991

PKD could make you doubt your own existence... ;)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 24, 2008, 02:56:04 pm
Certainly events simply cannot be explained without acknowledging the spiritual nature of our reality.

By the way, that's a typo.  It should read, "Certain events simply cannot be explained without acknowledging the spiritual nature of our reality."

The following is quoted from a thread I wrote a several months ago:

I first began to research the Illuminati and the New World Order in the spring of 2001, so I wasn’t taken in by the all the propaganda when the supposed 9/11 ‘terrorist’ attacks occurred.  On the night of September 11, 2001, I prayed and asked God to show me something.  I opened up the Bible to the book of the prophet Jeremiah and found myself staring at chapter 9.  Considering that an interesting coincidence, I decided to check out verse 11.  Here is what it reads:

“And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.”  (Jeremiah 9:11, King James Version Bible)

Just recently, I decided to look at a few more 911 verses.

Proverbs 9:11 By the blessing of the upright the city is exalted: but it is overthrown by the mouth of the wicked.

Revelation 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.  (Coincidentally, Revelation is the 66th book of the Bible.)

Of course, not every single 9:11 verse in the Bible is a portent of evil.  However, due to my experience on 9/11/01 with Jeremiah, I decided to look up some 1:16 verses.  Here is what I found.

Jeremiah 1:16  And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands.

Proverbs 1:16  For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.

Revelation 1:16  And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.  (Speaking of Jesus Christ)

end of quote

Also, my mother had one of those Daily Calendars with Bible verses in 2001.  The verse on 9/11 was 2 Chronicles 7:14.

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 24, 2008, 05:12:28 pm
I read The Short Happy Life of the Brown Oxford (The Collected Stories of Philip K. Dick, Vol. 1), VALIS, and The Divine Invasion in the summer of 2005.  A Scanner Darkly was published the year I was born, 1977 (b. 7-19-1977), but I've only seen the movie.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 24, 2008, 06:00:35 pm
I read The Short Happy Life of the Brown Oxford (The Collected Stories of Philip K. Dick, Vol. 1), VALIS, and The Divine Invasion in the summer of 2005.  A Scanner Darkly was published the year I was born, 1977 (b. 7-19-1977), but I've only seen the movie.


Ubik, The Man in the High Castle, Flow My tears the Policeman Said, and Scanner Darkly are my favoites.  The Scanner Darkly movie was a great telling of the story, but the book is even better.  If, for some reason, you want to know what life as a drug addict is like, that is the best book for it. 

I like those Nephilim movies(I'm on #4), wasn't what I expected.  It fits in more than I expected. 
Don't you think the Sword and Shield Film Company logo looks kind of illuminati? 
Two crossed swords behind a shield with a cross on it. 


I have looked around for a better synopsis of what Dick believed...I'll post what I find.  There is a book by Lawrence Sutin called The Shifting Realities of Philip K. Dick: Selected Literary and Philosophical Writings.  It has quite a bit of info on PKD's "Exegesis".
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 24, 2008, 06:27:34 pm
Ubik, The Man in the High Castle, Flow My tears the Policeman Said, and Scanner Darkly are my favoites.  The Scanner Darkly movie was a great telling of the story, but the book is even better.  If, for some reason, you want to know what life as a drug addict is like, that is the best book for it. 

I like those Nephilim movies(I'm on #4), wasn't what I expected.  It fits in more than I expected. 
Don't you think the Sword and Shield Film Company logo looks kind of illuminati? 
Two crossed swords behind a shield with a cross on it. 


I have looked around for a better synopsis of what Dick believed...I'll post what I find.  There is a book by Lawrence Sutin called The Shifting Realities of Philip K. Dick: Selected Literary and Philosophical Writings.  It has quite a bit of info on PKD's "Exegesis".


I thought about reading The Man in the High Castle.  Maybe I will.

Yes, the Nephilim films were better than I expected they would be as well.  Like I wrote in my other thread, the only point on which I really disagree with the narrator is his belief in the pre-tribulation rapture.  I stopped believing in that (and most of the LeftBehind=type interpretation of end-times prophecy) back in 2002.  Anyway, no, I don't think that logo looks Illuminati.  Watch those Total Onslaught lectures I linked to if you want to see all the major occult symbolism. 

I read a lot of stuff about PKD's beliefs back in 2003 or 2004.  Are you looking for his Tractates Cryptica Scriptura?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 24, 2008, 06:37:33 pm
1.I thought about reading The Man in the High Castle.  Maybe I will.

2.I read a lot of stuff about PKD's beliefs back in 2003 or 2004.  Are you looking for his Tractates Cryptica Scriptura?

1. You should, it is very appropriate to this thread and the discussion of reality and fantasy and the grey area between.

2.Possibly...Honestly, I'm not sure if I have heard that title, but I was aware that he wrote a rather lengthy religious analysis.  Most of what I know, I learned from a Literature prof in college.  She assigned Ubik for a sci-fi class I had, and discussed PKD for several classes.  Great teacher...she also turned me on to Joseph Conrad a few years later in another lit class.  Anyway, I'll take any info you have.  :)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on February 24, 2008, 07:10:45 pm
1. You should, it is very appropriate to this thread and the discussion of reality and fantasy and the grey area between.

2.Possibly...Honestly, I'm not sure if I have heard that title, but I was aware that he wrote a rather lengthy religious analysis.  Most of what I know, I learned from a Literature prof in college.  She assigned Ubik for a sci-fi class I had, and discussed PKD for several classes.  Great teacher...she also turned me on to Joseph Conrad a few years later in another lit class.  Anyway, I'll take any info you have.  :)

I think the Tractates (http://www.philipkdickfans.com/pkdweb/Tractates.htm) were published in VALIS. 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 26, 2008, 03:52:50 pm
Okay comic fans, its time for Countdown! No, not Coundown with Keith Oberman, DC's latest crossover series Coundown to Infinite Crisis. I have recently just gotten into the series, and in issue 44  page 11 panel 4 something caught my eye.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/w0keo9.jpg)

Jimmy Olsen runs afoul of a street gang, and this guy has the pyramid with the eye on a chain around his neck. He is also wearing a t-shirt with a 5 pointed star. I first I thought I might be reading too much into this, but in later issues it becomes apparent the writer is one of us.

In the following pic, from countdown 41 page 6 panels one and two, Clark Kent tells Lois Lane global warming is a myth.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2v9yeyp.jpg)

In Countdown #34, The Karate Kid, who is a hero from a 1000 years in the future but is now trapped in our time finds out he has a virus. A virus originally introduced to the public by the Department of Defense through vaccines!

(http://i26.tinypic.com/11bnr7r.jpg)

Yea, this writer is a patriot alright, but probably a closet patriot who is descreetly trying to get the message out.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Dig on February 26, 2008, 10:29:48 pm
Way to go DC!  Now tell Marvel to bring back Captain America ASAP!

Oh snap...

Death and aftermath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America#The_New_Captain_America
Captain America's death. Art by Steve Epting.

Following his surrender, Steve Rogers is indicted on multiple criminal charges. As he is brought to a federal courthouse, a sniper shoots him in the back. In the chaos that ensues, he is wounded three more times in the stomach and chest. Rogers is taken to a hospital, where he dies.[60] The assassination, orchestrated by the Red Skull, involves Crossbones as the sniper and Dr. Faustus posing as a S.H.I.E.L.D. psychiatrist, who gives Sharon Carter a hypnotic suggestion to shoot Rogers at a crucial moment.[60]

The superhero community is shaken by the assassination. The Punisher temporarily adopts a costume similar to that of Captain America, while Winter Soldier and Wolverine seek to avenge his death. His shield is stolen by Winter Soldier and the Punisher provides him with Steve Rogers's mask.[61] Captain America is publicly laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery, under a monument built in his honor. The body in Arlington is a fake: Tony Stark, accompanied by Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, returns Rogers' body to the Arctic where Rogers had been found years before. Namor attends the small private ceremony and vows that no one will disturb the site.[62]

Stark receives a letter containing Rogers' final requests: Stark should "save" Bucky, and the mantle of Captain America should continue.[63]
 
Bucky as the new Captain America. Art by Alex Ross.

The New Captain America
Main article: Bucky

After being captured by the Red Skull, Bucky escapes into S.H.I.E.L.D. custody.[64] Tony Stark shows him the letter from Steve Rogers, in which Rogers' wishes regarding the future of the Captain America identity are made clear. Bucky agrees to take up the mantle, on the condition that he be answerable to no higher authority. Stark arranges a battery of medical and psychological tests to assure that Bucky's Winter Soldier programming has left no lasting effects.[65]

Ed Brubaker, writer of the stories introducing Bucky as Captain America, described the character as "...kind of a very conflicted character who's trying to find some redemption, and his closest friend is basically taken away from him before he can really reconcile with him." He stated that he writes about the characters, not just the icon. [66]
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 27, 2008, 09:29:06 pm
This one blew me away! It is from Image comics, January 2001.

(http://i30.tinypic.com/29gjyc6.jpg)

It looks innocent enough, but check out the middle panel at the bottom of the cover.

(http://i26.tinypic.com/2qdadqb.jpg)

You can see the smoke filled towers behind the girl, a full 8 months before September! Here is a closeup.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2mw5iix.jpg)

Now that is just scary!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on March 01, 2008, 03:53:40 am
So, do you have a totally massive comic book collection or what, Ford?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 03, 2008, 06:28:02 am
It's pretty big, a lot of my information comes from it. However, most of the covers I post come from this site.
http://www.comics.org/index.lasso

It's been a couple days since I posted any covers, so here are a couple.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2qappnb.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/az7yg2.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on March 03, 2008, 06:37:41 am
That Batman comic has a story called "The Bush Trackers" followed by "The Unseen Clue"...  ;)

Keep 'em coming, Ford...
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on March 06, 2008, 04:25:18 pm
fascinating stuff Ford, wow some of these are real eye openers,

perhaps as you say some sort of precog ability, or their minds picking up on the plans of others via suggestion, reverse speech, ESP or whatever.

mad mad mad and scary too.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 08, 2008, 09:52:25 pm
I found something strange. This is from Wonder Woman #126 dated October 1997.
(http://i29.tinypic.com/10n5i74.jpg)
As readers of comics know, the comics actually go on sale a couple months before the date on the cover. And this one went on sale three days before the death of Diana, Princess of Wales.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byrne
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An issue of Wonder Woman in which the death of the superheroine, who is an Amazon princess named Diana, is presented on the cover as a newspaper front page with the headline “Princess Diana Dies.” The issue went on sale on a Wednesday, and Britain’s Diana, Princess of Wales was killed in an accident three days later.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on March 09, 2008, 07:46:23 am
bloody hell - that is pretty damned hardcore
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: own on March 09, 2008, 07:48:33 am
The UN putting pro-World government stuff in comic books being given FREE to all children is a key point.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Godfather77 on March 09, 2008, 11:01:53 am
Wow, really fascinating stuff.  I never gave much thought to how symbolism may exist in printed media especially the comic book genre but the recent Marvel Civil War storyline did make me wonder if a serious message was being put across to the reader. 

Below is a condensed version of the general plot synopsis which encapsulates the main themes and storyline:

(http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/0/0f/Avengers01.jpg/200px-Avengers01.jpg)

During the filming of a reality television show a battle between superheroes and supervillains results in an explostion causing the death of large numbers of people and school children.  This in turn leads to public opinion sharply turning against superhumans resulting in protests and violence.

With the backing of prominent superhero (Iron Man) Congress swiftly passes the Superhuman Registration Act requiring the registration of all persons with superhuman abilities with the U.S. government, and the enlistment and training of those wishing to operate as superheroes. Captain America refuses to join a S.H.I.E.L.D. (a strike force hunting superhumans in violation of the act) and is attacked by S.H.I.E.L.D.'s assassins, even though the Act itself has not been passed.  Escaping he becomes a fugitive and forms an underground resistance movement (The Secret Avengers) but in the meantime many superheroes and villians alike are subsequently detained or forcibly registered.

Spider-Man who originally sided with the government pro-registration act learns about concentration camp-styled prison facilities in the Negative Zone and concludes he has made a huge mistake.  When he attempts to defect he is hunted down and badly beaten but is saved by the Punisher and taken to a safehouse.  On recovering he joins Captain America's forces and makes a public statement in which he pledges to fight the Registration Act. 

The Punisher too seeks to join Captain America's forces, pointing out that Iron Man's decision to employ infamous mass murderers as enforcers of the Act as reasons for him wanting to join. Although crime is at an all time low as a result of the registered heroes, Captain America reluctantly accepts Punisher's offer of help.  The Punisher is later kicked out after he reverts to his vigilante ways and kills two supervillains who wanted to join the resistance movement.

Eventually, the resistance mounts an attack against the pro-registration's holding facility in the Negative Zone, releasing the prisoners.  As the final battle begins and Captain America is about to deliver a final blow to Iron Man he suddenly realizes how much damage the fight has already inflicted upon the very people he wishes to protect.  He therefore decides to surrender and orders his team to stand down.

In the aftermath of the Superhero Civil War the President of the United States grants general amnesty to all opponents of the Superhuman Registration Act who turn themselves in or register. However, Captain America, the main opponent to the Act, is arrested and subsequently assassinated. Other heroes choose to leave the country rather than submit whist those brave enough to remain do so by hiding underground.  Later an assassin hired by Kingpin tries to kill Spider-Man but narrowly misses.  To be continued...  ;)

Links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(comic_book)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Civil_War

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 09, 2008, 10:49:51 pm
Wow! That is a great find Godfather.
I remember a "What If" comic from the eighties featuring Cap. In it an imposter took his place and backed a senators "national ID act", which was used to keep minorities from work. I might try to dig it up later.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: chinajim on March 13, 2008, 04:45:27 pm
I think if you guys keep looking you will find conspiracies every were you look. A lot of the comic book artist before 9/11 as well as the writers drew or wrote stories that would grab peoples attention. Referencing the karate kid letter I remember reading the series they refer to in the comic it was called OMAC the one man army corp and he was fighting a organisation that was trying to take over the world Brother eye started off as a computerised tracking sat. which I believe gained AI and realised those that created it was going to use its knowledge for evil. So it picked out the guy it wanted and changed him call it Jack Kirby's version of the super soldier DC own Capt America I didn't read the entire series since I believe I was protecting the oceans as a navy man
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Sub-Zer0 on March 15, 2008, 01:37:46 pm
This needs to be pinned.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 15, 2008, 05:07:42 pm
As promised, the greatest Captain America story ever told. As most of you probably know, Cap was a hero in the forties who was frozen in ice to be thawed in the sixties. In the comic  What If #44 April 1983, Cap gets thawed out much later, 1983. However, before he is revived, an imposter takes his place. In this strip, the imposter talks about how protesting is aiding the communists.

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2crr2h3.jpg)

Later in the comic, the imposter uses his celebrety to get a certain senator elected. The senator then introduces the "American ID Act" which passes thanks to imposter Caps.

(http://i25.tinypic.com/2hwo1na.jpg)

The Id act is used to keep certain groups from gaining employment. Starvation and rioting ensue. The imposter Cap is shot(pressumably in a False Flag operation) and delivers inspiring messages from his hospital bed. Notice how he uses a kid to help spread his propoganda.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/w6ppxv.jpg)

In the civil war that follows, various secret society groups decide a second constitutional convention is nessacary, in order to strip the few remaining freedoms Americans have.

(http://i27.tinypic.com/11h3yb5.jpg)

Fortunatly by this time, the real Cap has returned, and he takes down evil Cap.

(http://i27.tinypic.com/348pq9k.jpg)

THe real Cap then tells the assembled crowd that without it's commitment to the freedom of all men, America is a peice of trash.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Azariah on March 15, 2008, 11:16:54 pm
This needs to be pinned.

bump
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: chinajim on March 16, 2008, 07:22:27 am
Now thats the Capt. America I grew up with and I plan to use that quote in my next american history class. I have a great respect for Alex and you guys in the group but lets get honest now we have not had a real inspireing leader or speaker since I would say either JFK or Ronnie. I think washington should hire writers like those guys that wrote Capt back in the 60s or make the leaders of the different branches write the speeches for themselves. we can show all this but how many of us can get out their and talk the talk. I take a chance every blessed day when I teach history that I will say something about patritism or about what is happening in the government that will cause me to get sacked and I will be out of a job. But I like Capt stand and fight the good fight if I can get one kid to think and I dont mean tell them about all the conspiracies and the like but ask them questions to get them to think, then I have done my job.
                                                                   
                                                                                                               
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on March 16, 2008, 02:26:59 pm
more great stuff Ford, good 'ole Capt America  :D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Kregener on March 16, 2008, 02:37:03 pm
Leather Boy (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Leather_Boy)

(http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/c/ca/Leather_Boy_2.jpg/440px-Leather_Boy_2.jpg)

Wiccan (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Wiccan)
(http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/0/0b/Wiccan442.jpg/440px-Wiccan442.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on March 16, 2008, 02:45:43 pm
Very nice, Kregener...I didn't realize the Marvel Universe had a pink team.

That Leather Boy synopsis is hysterical...

Leather Boy, a miscreant who misread Mister Immortal's personal ad seeking men and women of action, joined the Great Lakes Avengers for an extremely brief period of time. As Mister Immortal said, "The less said about it, the better." Unfortunately, he later returned clad in the leather variation of Doctor Doom's armor, wanting revenge for being left out of the second recruiting drive, and murdered Monkey Joe. Big Bertha, however, caught and defeated Leather Boy by sitting on him.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 18, 2008, 10:36:20 am
I found Leather boy to be a bit disturbing. :D

This is from Detective Comics #551 June 1985.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on March 18, 2008, 11:36:52 pm
Very nice, Kregener...I didn't realize the Marvel Universe had a pink team.

That Leather Boy synopsis is hysterical...

Leather Boy, a miscreant who misread Mister Immortal's personal ad seeking men and women of action, joined the Great Lakes Avengers for an extremely brief period of time. As Mister Immortal said, "The less said about it, the better." Unfortunately, he later returned clad in the leather variation of Doctor Doom's armor, wanting revenge for being left out of the second recruiting drive, and murdered Monkey Joe. Big Bertha, however, caught and defeated Leather Boy by sitting on him.


ROFL!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 22, 2008, 03:27:46 pm
(http://i29.tinypic.com/dhfmoj.jpg)
Where can I get an illuminati badge?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on March 22, 2008, 04:55:35 pm
more great stuff Ford, thank you
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Phineas on March 22, 2008, 05:17:05 pm
great thread ...that capn america was worth seeing
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 23, 2008, 03:55:14 pm
What, Me worry?

(http://i32.tinypic.com/2ccuxw4.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 23, 2008, 07:31:42 pm
I found some more wild stuff, thanks to Christopher Loring Knowles, author of "The Gods Wear Spandex"
From Destropyer Duck #5, published by Eclipse Comics in 1983.
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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Phineas on March 23, 2008, 07:48:10 pm
WOW that last one is very creepy considering the missile tube theory ..this must be some sort of psychic ability we are seeing here ...i doubt they had the plans for 9/11 back in the 60's ...or did they?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 23, 2008, 10:16:31 pm
I do think it is psychic ability. I do hope they aren't always correct, because in recent comics the Rose Bowl(although empty) and the Lincoln Statue in the memorial were attacked.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: kairosan on March 24, 2008, 11:41:55 am
Most of the order marvel and DC comics were very dark............
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on March 24, 2008, 12:02:02 pm
Mad was my one comic book...I had a big collection. 
Wish I still had them. 
Those guys have a skeptical view of society and government.

(http://media.sfweekly.com/128408.51.jpeg)

(http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/6738_450x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 24, 2008, 10:00:17 pm
It's not the WTC, it wasn't built at the time this was written in 1963, But it IS New York and it shows TWO aircraft attacking Two skyscrapers. And it was set in the future. Pretty darn prophetic for 1963.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 25, 2008, 06:59:48 am
I found some interesting stuff. Suburban Highlife.

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(http://i32.tinypic.com/2njh6bo.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/8vofh3.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on March 25, 2008, 06:28:44 pm
I found some interesting stuff. Suburban Highlife.

(http://i26.tinypic.com/t7l3jc.jpg)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2njh6bo.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/8vofh3.jpg)

WOW, those are totally creepy. Those are dated 1987?  21 years old.........
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Amd304912 on March 28, 2008, 02:44:44 pm
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2m3l183.jpg)

look at the barcode on the cover, it tells where that came from

From Marvel Two in One #100 June 1983. In this issue, the Thing travels to an alternate reality where he is not the Thing and Galactus has drained the Earth of it's natural resources. He is captured by the Red Skull, who has set up headquarters in a bombed out WTC.

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GE?

overseas?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 28, 2008, 11:15:11 pm
Sorry, but I don't quite follow. Other than the unseen 666 that is in every barcode, what is unusual about it?

And the GE overseas thing? The Electric Company was a kids show on PBS in the seventies, and they sometimes had clips of Spidey as well as the Blue Beetle. The picture in the second post came from my own collection.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 30, 2008, 11:58:20 pm
Ok, no comic books today. Instead I am linking an inspirational you tube video. If yoiu have never seen Samurai Jack, he is an ancient samurai who was flung forward in time by an evil wizard. This one has very subtle ties to the Bohemians. Samurai Jack climbs a mountain, alone at first,(don't we all start out like that?) but at the top of the mountain he sees 300 spartans hopelessly outnumbered by a huge army of mechanical MOLOCHS!!! Although it seems like impossible odds, Jack does the only thing that is true to his nature, he joins the spartans against the thousands of molochs. The result is what is going to happen when the s**t hits the fan and they start coming for us. Do not watch if you absolutly hate rap music. Also, I did not create this video, so all props go to the guy who made it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlTB_iM-NxY

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on April 01, 2008, 01:08:32 pm
(http://i32.tinypic.com/dw5mb5.jpg)

Ok, so if you ignore the alien, you have a shot of the U.N. building and the caption "Threat of the Faceless Creature"
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on April 03, 2008, 07:42:14 am
Ok, I'm not a big Icke supporter, but this was too good to not post.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on April 03, 2008, 08:08:05 am
 :D ;D more great stuff, it is a useful metaphor even if the reptiles thing is a bit much
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: nike on April 06, 2008, 01:23:37 am
http://www.anerispress.com/ena/

This comic book company managed to get three issues of a comic book adaptation of Shea and Wilson's Illuminatus! trilogy published before Rip Off Press pulled the plug on them.

http://www.ripoffpress.com/results.cfm?TitleKey=illuminatus&CopyKey=&ShowAll=Yes
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Red7Paladin on April 12, 2008, 02:32:21 am
Japanese Anime Gasaraki (1998) predicts the 2nd invasion of Iraq (Operation Iraqi Freedom)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQr42kqGoRE

Just insert Iraq for "Belgistan".
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on April 15, 2008, 07:26:27 am
(http://i31.tinypic.com/16m9jjs.jpg)

The Masons VS Skull & Bones?!?!?!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on April 16, 2008, 10:50:14 pm
This is from November 1991. The D.C. character Martian Manhunter is looking at a fortress in a cave, and beyond that the twin towers. It is interesting that our goverment is on "manhunt" for a terrorist who has a fortress in a cave. I believe Seallion from Youtube reffered to the Martian Manhunter as the Epyptian god Osiris, also known as the Green Man. He also had a belief that 911 was a ritual to free the sister/wife of Osiris, Isis. Looking at this cover, I can imagine Osiris looking at a tomb between the twin towers and waiting for his wife to return.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on April 16, 2008, 11:12:48 pm
May 1953
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2zgemiw.jpg)

An Arab Guy also known as the "bogey man" has went from not being real to taking form and shape.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on April 17, 2008, 01:05:39 am
May 1953
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2zgemiw.jpg)

An Arab Guy also known as the "bogey man" has went from not being real to taking form and shape.

Another great post, Ford...very funny.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on April 17, 2008, 06:28:36 am
many thanks for the new posts Ford, again it is quite shocking just how spot on some of this stuff really is.

The Arab guy as the bogey man really stands out for me as the elites did know by the 50's that the next bogey man-enemy was to be the Arabs
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on April 21, 2008, 11:46:39 am
MLKUltra 1957

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on April 26, 2008, 11:16:17 am
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From 1964. To me, this cover illustrates the contradiction fo global warming.  After we have just had the coldest winter in years, the rhetoric of global warmig is in full force. A bit like having a problem with frozen water during a heatwave.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 03, 2008, 09:58:55 am
Mar-Apr 1970
(http://i29.tinypic.com/11ruecz.jpg)

In 1990, George Herbert Walker Bush made his infamous New World Order Speech before congress.

The Red Knights represent the Knights Templar, or the Knights of the Red Cross. They are defending the Lincoln Memorial. The Lincoln Memorial is really just a reproduction of the Temple of Zues. The Lincoln Memorial shows up in a lot of comics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Memorial

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The main influence on the style of the Lincoln Memorial was the Temple of Zeus at Olympia, Greece.


The Knights Templar are defending the Temple of Zues against the rioting hordes, and this was supposed to start sometime in 1990. Although a real shooting war didn't start in 1990, I say it was a significant date, a lot of people took notice of the NWO speech, and the comic book cover is symbolic of the long struggle against the NWO which will last long beyond 1990.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on May 03, 2008, 10:27:14 am
it can also be argued that the period around 1990 was the start of the current phase, for instance the end fo the previous phase, the Cold War, and the start of the war on Muslims - the third world war as set out by Albert Pike - arguably the start of the rise of China too.

it was also when neoliberalism really took over the whole world, leading to a huge rise in corporate power and transnational entities.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on May 03, 2008, 08:48:56 pm
Mar-Apr 1970
(http://i29.tinypic.com/11ruecz.jpg)

In 1990, George Herbert Walker Bush made his infamous New World Order Speech before congress.

The Red Knights represent the Knights Templar, or the Knights of the Red Cross. They are defending the Lincoln Memorial. The Lincoln Memorial is really just a reproduction of the Temple of Zues. The Lincoln Memorial shows up in a lot of comics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Memorial
 

The Knights Templar are defending the Temple of Zues against the rioting hordes, and this was supposed to start sometime in 1990. Although a real shooting war didn't start in 1990, I say it was a significant date, a lot of people took notice of the NWO speech, and the comic book cover is symbolic of the long struggle against the NWO which will last long beyond 1990.

This is getting totally BEYOND creepy here. 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 03, 2008, 09:17:45 pm
I just noticed it is issue # 223, reverse from Skull and Bones 322. ;D 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on May 04, 2008, 07:14:14 am
I just noticed it is issue # 223, reverse from Skull and Bones 322. ;D 

oh yeah, good spot, creepy for sure
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 04, 2008, 08:26:57 pm
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2zyh64y.jpg)

THe one eyed monster VS the Suicide Squad. Of course the one eyed monster is symbolic for the Illuminati (Eye of providence). Over the years, hundreds of people who had insider information have died of alleged suicide under mysterious circumstances. So I found the Suicide Squad fighting the creature with one eye to be a little creepy.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 04, 2008, 08:59:39 pm
I forgot to mention the pyramid, with the eye at the top.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on May 05, 2008, 08:25:14 am
yep, suicides, car crashes, mouth cancer (for those who say too much) and stomach/colon cancer (for those who upset the jesuits)

yet more creepy stuff, great work Ford - many thanks.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 08, 2008, 09:27:27 pm
1987


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From Websters

Main Entry: 1sa·ble 
Pronunciation: \ˈsā-bəl\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural sables
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Middle Low German sabel sable or its fur, from Middle High German zobel, of Slavic origin; akin to Russian sobol' sable or its fur
Date: 14th century
1 a: the color black b: black clothing worn in mourning —usually used in plural
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on May 09, 2008, 11:05:05 am
wow, some more seriously creepy stuff, note also that black is the colour of Saturnian occultist worship
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 11, 2008, 09:40:58 am
Thaks for the support of this thread everyone. If anyone has any interesting comics they wish to post, then please post them. I have a few I have been sitting on because I am not sure what to make of them.

The Eye and the Obelisk both feature prominently on this one.

 (http://i26.tinypic.com/oaynp2.jpg)

Sable, the agent of black and mourning stepping around the towers, while a female goddess figure (isis?) stares on from above. I find it interesting she is positioned between the towers. Isis is indeed a "widowmaker".

(http://i29.tinypic.com/yla2w.jpg)

Afred E Newman making fun of the fear mongering.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on May 11, 2008, 02:19:09 pm
Thaks for the support of this thread everyone. If anyone has any interesting comics they wish to post, then please post them. I have a few I have been sitting on because I am not sure what to make of them.

The Eye and the Obelisk both feature prominently on this one.

 (http://i26.tinypic.com/oaynp2.jpg)

Sable, the agent of black and mourning stepping around the towers, while a female goddess figure (isis?) stares on from above. I find it interesting she is positioned between the towers. Isis is indeed a "widowmaker".

(http://i29.tinypic.com/yla2w.jpg)

Afred E Newman making fun of the fear mongering.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/zimz3l.jpg)



LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the MAD Magazine one.  That's really the only comic I read growing up.  Of course, I read Gaiman now that I'm all 'growed up'.    ;D ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 14, 2008, 07:18:53 am
There is something very important, and it is something I never noticed before. I am sure most of you are familiar with the Hegelian principle where one creates a problem to get a reaction from the people in order to propose the solution, and it is always a solution that the wanted all along.

In 1954, Dr. Fredric Wertman published Seduction of the Innocent. This led to an uproar from parents which resulted in a congressional investigation of Comic books!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_of_the_Innocent

This eventually led to the creation of the Comics Code Authority, an organization created by the comic book publishers in order to censor comic books.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority

As part of the rules of the CCA, drug use was prohibited in comics, even when the publishers was trying to show drug use being bad!

It got really ridiculous when they tried to ban E.C Comics from featuring an African American in one of their stories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC_Comics

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This really made 'em go bananas in the Code czar's office. 'Judge Murphy was off his nut. He was really out to get us', recalls [EC editor] Feldstein. 'I went in there with this story and Murphy says, "It can't be a Black man". But ... but that's the whole point of the story!' Feldstein sputtered. When Murphy continued to insist that the Black man had to go, Feldstein put it on the line. 'Listen', he told Murphy, 'you've been riding us and making it impossible to put out anything at all because you guys just want us out of business'. [Feldstein] reported the results of his audience with the czar to Gaines, who was furious [and] immediately picked up the phone and called Murphy. 'This is ridiculous!' he bellowed. 'I'm going to call a press conference on this. You have no grounds, no basis, to do this. I'll sue you'. Murphy made what he surely thought was a gracious concession. 'All right. Just take off the beads of sweat'. At that, Gaines and Feldstein both went ballistic. 'f**k you!' they shouted into the telephone in unison. Murphy hung up on them, but the story ran in its original form

What gave this away as being part of a conspiracy was there stamp of approval.

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I'm sure it looks familiar.

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As Alex says, these people are like gang members who have to put their gang signs on everything.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: chinajim on May 14, 2008, 11:50:26 am
Is there any comic book heroes you guys like? I grew up reading Superman fighting for truth, justice, and the
American way. Batman the dark knight fighting the criminals that the normal police could not stop were all these heroes evil? is the message of fighting evil wrong? One of my favorites was Doc Savage a character trained from childbirth to fight evil and for 181 issues in the 30s and 40s did so. I was inspired by such characters as that growing up in the 60s and 70s there were no real heroes out their,so comics books inspired a generation to believe in.So comics is where a lot of us got our inspirations from. Concerning one of the characters mentioned on the thread John Sable Freelance lived in New York and the WTC was the biggest landmark in the city. He was a professional soldier who helped people out. 'Don't always look for a Bogey man on every book or under every rock. 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 14, 2008, 01:24:21 pm
You misunderstand me Jim, I am a big fan of the superheroes. I just think that sometimes they represent something else, that the universe is sending messages in comic books as well as television and movies. Some of the things shown in this thread have been more prophetic than anything else.
I don't think the writers are part of a conspiracy, I think they are in touch with a form of ESP that can't be explained, and that they don't even recognize they have this ability.
There are some that recognize the conspiracy and are trying to warn against it, like was show in the Karate Kid clip a page or so back.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on May 14, 2008, 05:05:50 pm
Ford, this thread never ceases to amaze me. 

This thing about the CCA is over the top.  I had no idea.

Very cool research you have done here.

I look forward to seeing what you will find next...
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on May 15, 2008, 09:54:50 am
You misunderstand me Jim, I am a big fan of the superheroes. I just think that sometimes they represent something else, that the universe is sending messages in comic books as well as television and movies. Some of the things shown in this thread have been more prophetic than anything else.
I don't think the writers are part of a conspiracy, I think they are in touch with a form of ESP that can't be explained, and that they don't even recognize they have this ability.
There are some that recognize the conspiracy and are trying to warn against it, like was show in the Karate Kid clip a page or so back.

it could also be that some are being passed information via programmed individuals, or that some of the artists/writers are themselves programmed by illuminati/jesuits/lodge members etc etc
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 15, 2008, 11:41:16 am
Quote
it could also be that some are being passed information via programmed individuals, or that some of the artists/writers are themselves programmed by illuminati/jesuits/lodge members etc etc


I think this is part of it as well. It is likely that all three are going on.

I've recently found something that is just downright incredible. It is a mini series from 1997 called "Uncle Sam." Uncle Sam has been in comics since the forties, but in this version he is the spirit of America. Deeply rooted in the ideas of freedom, Sam is also haunted by visions of genocide, racism, assasination, and corporate greed. By the end of the series, Sam confronts his replacement who is some kind of corporate add campaign, and during the confrontation he discovers his true and most deadly enemy.

I'll try to get some images up later.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on May 15, 2008, 12:50:38 pm


I think this is part of it as well. It is likely that all three are going on.

I've recently found something that is just downright incredible. It is a mini series from 1997 called "Uncle Sam." Uncle Sam has been in comics since the forties, but in this version he is the spirit of America. Deeply rooted in the ideas of freedom, Sam is also haunted by visions of genocide, racism, assasination, and corporate greed. By the end of the series, Sam confronts his replacement who is some kind of corporate add campaign, and during the confrontation he discovers his true and most deadly enemy.

I'll try to get some images up later.

I have to say that it is bloody incredible that all this stuff is contained in these comics, without meaning to crack a bad joke, you couldn't write this stuff i.e. the closeness tot eh various occultish things and 9-11 and the decline of the USA etc.

I guess ones like the above could be the result more of very well informed individuals, or having well informed advisors for plot lines, but some of it is just way too much and requires knowledge way beyond what can be obtained through normal routes. hence ESP or programmed people.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 15, 2008, 09:47:08 pm
As promised, Uncle Sam.
It starts out with Sam as a homeless person wandering the streets of America. He is haunted by visions of both the foundations of freedom on which this country was founded, and the corruption that slowly creeped in. In one of his visions, he is JFK in Dallas, Nov 1963.
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2yyausl.gif)

After a couple more visions, the first one about the genocide of the native Americans, and the second one about racism, Sam comforts a dying Union soldier during the Civil War. The soldier asks "Will the Union be preserved?"  Sam gives the answer that I didn't expect him to, because it is far off the matrix. However, it is the only true answer he can give, because the issue hasn't been decied yet in 1997.(Or 2008 for that matter.)

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2ql7hwk.gif)

In this one, Sam runs into a canidate who has just lost an election to a crooked encumbant senator. While talking to the man, he has a vision of Abe Lincoln warning about corporate control of politics.

 (http://i28.tinypic.com/fac1mv.gif)

I'll try to get some more up tomorrow. The best stuff is still yet to come.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 17, 2008, 08:40:57 pm
There is just too much information in this comic to print it all here. Sam confronts a crooked senator, gets arrested, then breaks out of jail. He then meets the spirit of Great Britain, Brittania. Brittania tells him that when he falls it's going to make what she went through look like a "bloody cricket match." Sam then meets another spirit of American, the goddess Columbia. (the same woman hoding the torch in the Columbia movie logo). Columbia tells him that while he has made mistakes in the past, he is still based and founded on the idea of freedom, a grand experiment. Sam then meets the Russian Bear, who gives him a warning.
(http://i25.tinypic.com/206htt5.gif)

He can't fight this enemy the old way, which is through war and violence because he would use that strategy against him. Indeed, when the Russians had a revolution it was used against them in the end. Sam then goes to confront the new spirit of America, a spirit of powerlust and corporate greed. New Sam has a cloak of thousands of television sets, and when Sam tells him that he is not the real spirit of America, a fight breaks out.
(http://i31.tinypic.com/oate8h.jpg)
Every time NWO Sam strikes the real spirit of America, he hurts only himself. I have heard Alex say this before, that everytime the NWO cracks down it exposes who they really are. Shortly after NWO Sam's morning in America comment, his head explodes.
If you think this was weird, wait until you see the last two pages! A couple ask Sam if they should "call 911". Then they tell him the put a dollar in his hat. A federal reserve note. Sam picks up his hat and the dollar falls out. The last panel has sam walking under the pyramid with the eye capstone, and the dollar that he ignored is picked up by Columbia! The couple who gave him the dollar look familiar, but I can't quite place who they are supposed to symbolize.
 (http://i29.tinypic.com/2cmq80y.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/7142u9.jpg)


Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Boaz on May 17, 2008, 09:48:19 pm
could it be the authors or the artist, like a written in cameo?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: corbettreport on May 17, 2008, 09:56:53 pm
Thank you for uploading that Uncle Sam comic, Ford.  That is really some incredible stuff, even Bush's New World Order speech.  Are you sure this is from 1997?  2007 I could understand, but whoever was writing this in 1997 was alot more on the ball than most of us were, I dare say.  Thanks again for the great research.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on May 17, 2008, 10:24:23 pm
Tip of the iceberg bro.

writers of..
Xmen
Star Wars
Batman
( anything by Frank Miller and John Carpenter)

All insiders.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 18, 2008, 07:40:24 am
Thank you for uploading that Uncle Sam comic, Ford.  That is really some incredible stuff, even Bush's New World Order speech.  Are you sure this is from 1997?  2007 I could understand, but whoever was writing this in 1997 was alot more on the ball than most of us were, I dare say.  Thanks again for the great research.

I did a recheck, and it indeed was 1997.
http://www.comics.org/series.lasso?SeriesID=14907

The 911 reference really freaked me out. Everything on the last two pages was highly symbolic. Sam(America) being on the skids and being given a dollar(Fiat money) to help him out. Sam(America) doesn't understand the importance or significance of the dollar(fiat money) and ignores the danger of it, and it is picked up by Columbia(America) as he walks under the pyramid sign. (Towards a new world order). So in this context, you could almost assume that when goatee man(federal reserve) asks if he should call 911, he is asking if he should CAUSE 911. Truly astounding.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 18, 2008, 09:47:20 pm
From July 1970

(http://i30.tinypic.com/eguao5.jpg)

The Obelisk Washington monument is behind the president, and Superman says the power to destroy him is in a bomb shaped like a pyramid with an eye in the center of it and a red button for the capstone, but does anyone recognize the flag to the presidents left? It looks like it has a gold star on the top of it and Egyptian wings at the bottom.   
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on May 18, 2008, 10:03:14 pm
damn. You're not joking. It's loaded
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on May 19, 2008, 07:35:16 am
I did a recheck, and it indeed was 1997.
http://www.comics.org/series.lasso?SeriesID=14907

The 911 reference really freaked me out. Everything on the last two pages was highly symbolic. Sam(America) being on the skids and being given a dollar(Fiat money) to help him out. Sam(America) doesn't understand the importance or significance of the dollar(fiat money) and ignores the danger of it, and it is picked up by Columbia(America) as he walks under the pyramid sign. (Towards a new world order). So in this context, you could almost assume that when goatee man(federal reserve) asks if he should call 911, he is asking if he should CAUSE 911. Truly astounding.


yeah I am inclined to agree with your assessment of the symbolism, with Columbia being the illegal United States Federal Government and goatee man perhaps being the owners of the Fed or servants of the owners of the Fed, however, it all adds up to the same thing. Seriously hardcore stuff , indeed amazing.

thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on May 19, 2008, 11:00:31 pm
damn. You're not joking. It's loaded

And the guy with the goatee - I too feel like he looks somehow familiar, but I don't know why.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 36chambers on May 24, 2008, 09:39:06 am
The Goatee man... looks a bit like V..?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on May 24, 2008, 10:54:29 am
I assume the goatee is a reference to the goat of mendez perhaps representing the owners of the Fed given that they worship the goat (Lucifer)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 25, 2008, 10:16:51 am
He does look a little like Guy Fawkes. I did a facial analysis, and it said that he was 68% John Glenn?!?!?!


http://www.myheritage.com/celebrity-face-recognition

(http://i25.tinypic.com/a3nha8.jpg) (http://i30.tinypic.com/29kuf5e.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on May 25, 2008, 11:33:52 am


(http://i25.tinypic.com/a3nha8.jpg) (http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7974/3muskc1qd5.jpg)

(http://img.webring.com/r/t/timcurrysomethin/logo) (http://content.flixster.com/photo/34/12/65/3412656_gal.jpg)



Tim Curry?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on May 25, 2008, 01:07:56 pm

(http://i25.tinypic.com/a3nha8.jpg) (http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7974/3muskc1qd5.jpg)

(http://img.webring.com/r/t/timcurrysomethin/logo) (http://content.flixster.com/photo/34/12/65/3412656_gal.jpg)

Tim Curry?

Maybe younger.  And thinner.   ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on May 25, 2008, 02:35:41 pm
Maybe younger.  And thinner.   ;D

(http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/419435_tc_200x200.jpg) (http://wardsmythe.com/tim_curry_rocky.gif)

I'm getting confused...  ;)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on May 25, 2008, 02:38:37 pm
(http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/419435_tc_200x200.jpg) (http://wardsmythe.com/tim_curry_rocky.gif)

I'm getting confused...  ;)

 :D :D :D :D :D

With a different wig, he could be the blonde chick.   ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on May 26, 2008, 08:04:06 pm
This one is Shocking. Cookie Monster destroying the Towers. I found this at Seallion's blog.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/24wzwvm.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on June 18, 2008, 10:29:35 pm
It's been awhile since I posted in here. I have been busy creating a blog that covers this subject and more. Check it out if you are interested.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: FOWL on June 22, 2008, 02:01:39 am
Isn't the goatee guy Albert Pike?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on June 24, 2008, 11:13:32 am
I think we may have a winner!

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2zxtpol.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on June 24, 2008, 11:39:45 am
(http://i26.tinypic.com/16m6czm.jpg)

(http://i27.tinypic.com/afbibr.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/345k36s.jpg)

As I have stated previously in this thread by belief that the Martian Manhunter(The one in green) is a stand in for the green skinned Egyptian god Osiris, and the three eyed Despero represents the Eye of Horus. Osiris was the father of  Horus, and as seen in the Seallion videos, the attacks may have been a mega ritual to release the goddess Isis, who is the wife of Osiris and the mother of Horus. In the pic on the left, we see them looking at an explosion across the river in an unnamed city. One may think the writer and artist is being unsensitive showing a scene like this, but the comic it came from is Justice League Task Force #19 cover date Jan 1995! That scene was drawn 6 years before 911!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on June 27, 2008, 04:43:57 pm
yes the skyline in the cartoon is very clearly the same as NYC (or clearly based on it). again a great pst, many thanks, spooky shit.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: dr4gon on June 30, 2008, 09:25:35 pm
amazing post Ford, ty
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Quicksilver on July 03, 2008, 08:54:46 pm
It's been awhile since I posted in here. I have been busy creating a blog that covers this subject and more. Check it out if you are interested.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/
Nice blog. I just noticed that the very last post contains a few comments, one of which contained this:
(http://club.telepolis.com/leyendasurbanas/torresgemelas/mortadelo.jpg)
I hope you don't mind me posting and I was also wondering if anybody here would be able to translate it...
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on July 03, 2008, 10:15:07 pm
Nice blog. I just noticed that the very last post contains a few comments, one of which contained this:
(http://club.telepolis.com/leyendasurbanas/torresgemelas/mortadelo.jpg)
I hope you don't mind me posting and I was also wondering if anybody here would be able to translate it...

OMG - was that published in 1993?   :o :o
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on July 04, 2008, 12:35:52 am
What is that on top of the tower that doesn't have a plane in it?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 17, 2008, 07:57:37 am
I'm not sure what the black blob is. It was a very spooky premonition. I wish I knew who the guy in the bandages is, or the guy roasting a hotdog on the statue of liberty.
I just did a post which talks about the connections between Green Lantern and King Solomon if anyone is interested.

  http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on July 17, 2008, 12:20:22 pm
Ford,

Did you hear Freeman on the show 7/16/08?  He mentioned V for Vendetta and Alex mentioned that there is a lot of occult conditioning going on in Comic Books...made me wonder if he has seen your thread.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 17, 2008, 02:20:57 pm
I didn't hear it, I listen to the show maybe once a week. I used to listen more but I have a little boy with autism that likes to eat headphones. :D

As far as Alex seeing this thread, I would be surprised if he hadn't. Thanks for letting me know about that.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: TheHuman on July 20, 2008, 04:27:34 am
Ford,

Did you hear Freeman on the show 7/16/08?  He mentioned V for Vendetta and Alex mentioned that there is a lot of occult conditioning going on in Comic Books...made me wonder if he has seen your thread.
That disturbed me. Freeman claimed Alan Moore was a 33rd degree Mason. I can't find any evidence to support that, including on Freeman's own page. In fact Masons are used as villains in two of his works. It kinda pisses me off, being a huge Alan Moore fan, that the man who wrote two definitive graphic novels, one about the value of human life and the other a love letter to anarchy, could be accused of being an NWO insider seemingly without any justification/explanation.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 20, 2008, 07:03:07 pm
Alan Moore is not a Mason, he is an occultist. I remember reading a strange interview with him once where he says he met John Constantine, one of his creations. Constantine was portrayed (rather poorly) by Keannu Reaves in the movie "Hellblazer". There have also been rumors he won't visit the U.S. because the CIA is after him due to a comic book where he exposes some of their secrets, although Moore denies this. He also did the "Watchmen" in the eighties, where Molech is a supervillian, and a plot to stage a fake alien invasion is afoot in order to unite the world for a common cause. Judging Moore by his work, he is most definately on the side of freedom and liberty.

Who is Freeman anyway?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: TheHuman on July 23, 2008, 05:16:02 pm
I don't really know, he's just called 'Freeman', writes the 'Freeman Perspective' (http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/) (a genuinely interesting blog). I caught an interview with him on the Alex Jones show, and he brought up comic books, most notably Alan Moore. A very knowledgeable guy, for certain, but he's like a lot of the anti-Masonic in that he uses the phrase "33rd degree Mason" as a synonym for "bad person". If it were true then I'd want to know, but for the lack of evidence I lean towards calling 'bullshit'.

I hear Alan Moore is an occultist, and a magician, but it's hard to take him seriously on those topics. He clearly considers them to be fun rather than threatening. You know he worships a hairy snake, right?

I didn't know Moore invented Constantine, that's cool. Good movie, in my opinion, although the comics are obviously superior.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 24, 2008, 02:19:16 pm
Alan Moore on magic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOw-oOiNvIY&feature=related

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 24, 2008, 04:06:23 pm
This is a good one, Alan Moore on V for Vendetta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX7ehbE1vc0&feature=related
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 28, 2008, 09:48:04 pm
(http://i36.tinypic.com/m9ro91.jpg)
Doesn't that look like Runsfeld brainwashing the kiddies?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on July 29, 2008, 06:18:57 am


Also fits in with Obama's "Youth Brigade".

(http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/obama4-8.jpg)(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/11/16/PH2007111600803.jpg)

"A minute more and my little monsters will conquer your world!"
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: SiliconDoc on August 02, 2008, 09:58:32 pm
I have been a comic book fan for years, and I have just recently noticed a lot of tie-ins with the NWO/Illuminati/Mason symbology. Let me start with the most obvious.

(http://i9.tinypic.com/6q01jza.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(Marvel_Comics)



 Oh god! finally we have the proof! f**k call Alex !!!! call ALEX for christ sakes!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 03, 2008, 08:42:00 am
So you pick out a post from 8 months ago in an attempt to make fun of me? Could you expand on that a little doc?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on August 03, 2008, 03:13:15 pm
I wouldn't worry, Ford. 

If you look at his ten posts, he says nothing interesting or intelligent.  He provides no support for his bullshit...i.e. links, quotes, sources.

He is just sounding off to convince himself that he is right, the world is just as advertised on TV, and everyone else is an idiot.

He's your typical, middle class American with no f**king idea what is going on.


He has tried to trash your thread because he envies your insight.  He's not smart enough to understand symbolism or metaphors.

He wishes that he could make some of the brilliant connections you have shown in this thread.  But, he's not smart enough, so he decided to rank on you instead.

Unfortunately for him he isn't even smart enough to do that with any style. 

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 03, 2008, 08:15:24 pm
Thanks 37. Yea, it appears he has run off.

Thanks for the props. I haven't posted regularly in this thread for a bit, i've been working on the blog. Here is a recent post.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/07/king-solomon-and-green-lantern.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 04, 2008, 07:15:06 pm
Did you guys know that the federal reserve puts out comic books from time to time? I found this one interesting.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/54d9io.jpg)

We have a group of multi-national people looking on and smiling at the dime that says E Pluribus Mazuma. It took a while to translate. The E Pluribus is latin, and it means OUT OF MANY. Mazuma is Yiddish, and it means cash, or fixed currency. So..... OUt of Many Money? Doesn't make much sense. How about "Money out of Many"? Or, "Money out of many cultures." WE have the message now translated on dime, with the last word being the many nations represented below the dime. They appear to be uniting under the dime, so my final translation is One (unified) money out of may nations, or one world currency.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on August 05, 2008, 09:45:57 am
I know that 'One out of Many' is itself a phrase that crops up time and time again when looking at Illuminati stuff, so it would make sense that they would use a derivation of it to signify their plans for the world's money.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Raincheck on August 05, 2008, 09:54:47 am
That is bizarre. Have you found any more art from Fed comic books? I'd be interested in seeing that.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 05, 2008, 05:15:04 pm
That is bizarre. Have you found any more art from Fed comic books? I'd be interested in seeing that.

I have a couple stored, they are really bizzare. I don't know what the fed has to do with spaceships or time travel.

 (http://i33.tinypic.com/2nrdnw5.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21dh5yc.jpg)

Maybe someone here can make more sense of them than me?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Raincheck on August 05, 2008, 05:34:25 pm
Holy cow! That is crazy stuff. I always enjoy seeing what new stuff is going to show up here.

What on earth is with the space connection to the Fed? The second one has the path of an orb and the path of a crescent being intersected by...a spaceship. In the dome of the spaceship you can see people in front of a monitor...maybe the people in pictured in the first illustration?

I find this stuff fascinating. What year were these two published?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Raincheck on August 05, 2008, 05:36:31 pm
Oh yeah, one more thing.

That title "Too Little, Too Much".

That's such a Fed thing to say.  ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 05, 2008, 08:26:37 pm
Holy cow! That is crazy stuff. I always enjoy seeing what new stuff is going to show up here.

What on earth is with the space connection to the Fed? The second one has the path of an orb and the path of a crescent being intersected by...a spaceship. In the dome of the spaceship you can see people in front of a monitor...maybe the people in pictured in the first illustration?

I find this stuff fascinating. What year were these two published?

These two are from 1989, the one money one is from 2006. there are more comics, but they are mostly just the regular propaganda about saving money and foriegn trade ect...
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 10, 2008, 08:44:46 pm
I can't reall post the cover to this one here, it is a bit risque. A robe wearing man with a necklace portraying an eye in a pyramid is menacing two chained scantly clad females.

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=300817&zoom=4
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: corbettreport on August 11, 2008, 05:04:36 am
Hi, Ford, I just wanted to let you know how grateful I for one am for all the incredible posts you make to this thread. I'm also a fan of your blog, and if other people reading this thread haven't checked it out yet, they should. Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: menace on August 11, 2008, 05:24:26 am
Did you guys know that the federal reserve puts out comic books from time to time? I found this one interesting.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/54d9io.jpg)

We have a group of multi-national people looking on and smiling at the dime that says E Pluribus Mazuma. It took a while to translate. The E Pluribus is latin, and it means OUT OF MANY. Mazuma is Yiddish, and it means cash, or fixed currency. So..... OUt of Many Money? Doesn't make much sense. How about "Money out of Many"? Or, "Money out of many cultures." WE have the message now translated on dime, with the last word being the many nations represented below the dime. They appear to be uniting under the dime, so my final translation is One (unified) money out of may nations, or one world currency.

Once Upon a Dime presents a fable about the island kingdom of Mazuma and the growth of its economy from barter to a sophisticated modern system, with its own central bank, to iIlustrate basic concepts of barter, money, banking, and inflation
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 11, 2008, 09:51:47 am
Once Upon a Dime presents a fable about the island kingdom of Mazuma and the growth of its economy from barter to a sophisticated modern system, with its own central bank, to iIlustrate basic concepts of barter, money, banking, and inflation

Thanks for posting that. I don't own the comic and I didn't know what the story was. Remember, in pop culture things almost always have two meanings and the different cultures standing under one dime has a meaning that is pretty easy to figure out.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 11, 2008, 06:22:58 pm
Hi, Ford, I just wanted to let you know how grateful I for one am for all the incredible posts you make to this thread. I'm also a fan of your blog, and if other people reading this thread haven't checked it out yet, they should. Keep up the great work.

Thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Godsforce on August 12, 2008, 07:50:04 am
Couple of thoughts:

go to www.bigheadpress.com and find some thoughtful, libertarian comics

Alan Moore, the man that brought us "V for Vendetta" and "the Watchmen" and "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" is an occultist and if you read Watchmen the end is reminiscent of Project Bluebeam.

Anyone else see the sinister message in Ben 10 as a front for Scientology, or transformation of humans into demons as reported by ex-illuminati members?  Google svila confession on illuminati to find out Illuminati's entrenchment in Hollywood.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 13, 2008, 07:40:05 pm
Thanks for posting that. The Probability Broach was incredible. For those who haven't read it it tells the story of a man travelling to another dimension where Shays rebellion succeeded.

I knew about Alan Moore, but what is Ben 10?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Godfather77 on August 15, 2008, 03:25:45 pm
(http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/DeepThoughts/SpiderManand911G.jpg)(http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/DeepThoughts/SpiderManand911H.jpg)

These are images from Spider-Man issue #16 in November 1991 which shared a crossover storyline with X-Force issue 3.  The storyline revolves around Juggernaut and Black Tom who have captured the World Trade Center and the heads of many giant companies for the purposes of blackmailing.  X-Force arrives and goes through the building whereupon Black Tom tells them that they have explosives through out the building. Back outside Spider-Man arrives to see about helping the hostages, but before he can get in part of the World Trade Center explodes.

Miraculously nobody is killed or even injured by the top floors of the World Trade Center being blown away, but Black Tom is missing...Juggernaut rams into the World Trade Center. The entire thing falls down on Spider-Man and X-Force. Again miraculously nobody is even scratched for no apparent or logical reason. Spider-Man says that he will lead them to victory.

Bizarrely, the Juggernaut was later shown having joined a clandestine criminal organization known the New World Order. As a part of this network he was first seen working for the Red Skull although the full extent of their operations is unknown. Working with the NWO has twice brought the Juggernaut head-to-head with the Hulk and helped earn him enough money to temporarily cure Black Tom of his wood mutations. The Juggernaut continued as a member of the New World Order up until it's apparent demise.

Weird coincidence or something else?  :-\
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 15, 2008, 05:33:53 pm
That's incredible! Thanks for posting that.

ESP or foreknowledge? I am leaning towards ESP, but with the references to the NWO I don't know. Maybe the writer was just familiar with the NWO conspiracy and wrote a story where he was trying to warn people. You say the whole thing came down?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Godfather77 on August 15, 2008, 09:34:55 pm
That's incredible! Thanks for posting that.

ESP or foreknowledge? I am leaning towards ESP, but with the references to the NWO I don't know. Maybe the writer was just familiar with the NWO conspiracy and wrote a story where he was trying to warn people. You say the whole thing came down?

The writer was a Todd McFarlane who left Marvel not long after after issue #16 with some other artists to form Image Comics. He later published the occult-themed Spawn in 1992.  I don't think the whole WTC came down but it was certainly left in ruins as in the following issue of X-Force #4, Spider-Man and X-Force continue to fight Juggernaut in the wreckage of the World Trade Center, until Deadpool appears and teleports Juggernaut away. 

One reference to Juggernaut being linked with the group New World Order is Incredible Hulk #456. In a brief appearance the Juggernaut is seen sitting at a desk with the New World Order who have learnt that Apocalypse is manipulating the Hulk's mind in an attempt to turn him into the horseman War.  Later the HQ of the NWO is destroyed by Apocalypse...maybe a reference to the apocalypse   :-\
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: iks83 on August 16, 2008, 01:58:25 pm
I know it isnt a comic book but I dont want to open a new topic for it... In the Matrix Movie which came out 1999... Neos passport expired on September 11th 2001

http://www.img-hosting.de/show.htm?bild=12665matrix22jpg#

Edit: well I dont know if its the expire date, I took it from another forum where they wrote its the expire date
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on August 17, 2008, 09:44:58 pm
That's incredible! Thanks for posting that.

ESP or foreknowledge? I am leaning towards ESP, but with the references to the NWO I don't know. Maybe the writer was just familiar with the NWO conspiracy and wrote a story where he was trying to warn people. You say the whole thing came down?

Or the other option.  Conditioning.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 17, 2008, 10:06:12 pm
I know it isnt a comic book but I dont want to open a new topic for it... In the Matrix Movie which came out 1999... Neos passport expired on September 11th 2001

http://www.img-hosting.de/show.htm?bild=12665matrix22jpg#

Edit: well I dont know if its the expire date, I took it from another forum where they wrote its the expire date

Shortly after you poste this, Jake Kotze (Seallion) wrote about it at his blog. Check it out.

http://rundonotwalk.blogspot.com/

Great find.

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Or the other option.  Conditioning.

While it is certainly possible, what leads me to believe it is not conditioning is that if it were Juggernaut would have been a member of Al Queda or Hamas and not the the NWO.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 18, 2008, 10:10:20 am
From Swamp Thing #24 1983. The Swamp Thing takes on global warming.

 (http://i33.tinypic.com/2pyt11w.jpg)


Swamp Thing - You KNow... I am not.....lying. You know... The green... did not concieve this madness.

Floronic Man- It isn't madness!! The plants will pour out oxygen and all the animals will die. Only we shall remain. Don't you see? The only way!

Swamp Thing- And what... Will change the oxygen... Back into.... the gasses that...we...need... to survive...when the men...and the animals...are dead?

Caption- And quite suddenly, he can no longer feel the steaming, fertile presence of Africa within his mind.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 29, 2008, 07:42:33 am
(http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/DeepThoughts/SpiderManand911G.jpg)(http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/DeepThoughts/SpiderManand911H.jpg)

These are images from Spider-Man issue #16 in November 1991 which shared a crossover storyline with X-Force issue 3.  The storyline revolves around Juggernaut and Black Tom who have captured the World Trade Center and the heads of many giant companies for the purposes of blackmailing.  X-Force arrives and goes through the building whereupon Black Tom tells them that they have explosives through out the building. Back outside Spider-Man arrives to see about helping the hostages, but before he can get in part of the World Trade Center explodes.

Miraculously nobody is killed or even injured by the top floors of the World Trade Center being blown away, but Black Tom is missing...Juggernaut rams into the World Trade Center. The entire thing falls down on Spider-Man and X-Force. Again miraculously nobody is even scratched for no apparent or logical reason. Spider-Man says that he will lead them to victory.

Bizarrely, the Juggernaut was later shown having joined a clandestine criminal organization known the New World Order. As a part of this network he was first seen working for the Red Skull although the full extent of their operations is unknown. Working with the NWO has twice brought the Juggernaut head-to-head with the Hulk and helped earn him enough money to temporarily cure Black Tom of his wood mutations. The Juggernaut continued as a member of the New World Order up until it's apparent demise.

Weird coincidence or something else?  :-\

I bought Spiderman #16 yesterday. It showed Cable and some other heroes walking through a darkened WTC trying to find a way out!

It was interesting Spiderman and X force went after Juggernauts eyes, which seems to be a metaphor for the all seeing eye. And Spidey says "You can't stop him, you can only slow him down."
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 29, 2008, 11:17:10 pm
Just when I think there is nothing else to be found, something like this pops up.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp94/JJZero2/X-Men189Page2.jpg

(http://i33.tinypic.com/oigls0.jpg)

It's from Uncanny X men #189, 1984. A time traveller from the 21rst century reflects on seeing the WTC burn.

Ok, I'm really freaked out now.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on August 30, 2008, 12:55:18 pm
the reference to Nova Roma rather adds to the freak-out-ishness
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Raincheck on August 31, 2008, 02:48:56 pm
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It's from Uncanny X men #189, 1984. A time traveller from the 21rst century reflects on seeing the WTC burn.

I can see why they were called *uncanny*
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on August 31, 2008, 07:56:05 pm
I found something strange. This is from Wonder Woman #126 dated October 1997.
(http://i29.tinypic.com/10n5i74.jpg)
As readers of comics know, the comics actually go on sale a couple months before the date on the cover. And this one went on sale three days before the death of Diana, Princess of Wales.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byrne

Interesting connection...John Byrne, who made the Wonder Woman comic, co-wrote many issues of the "Uncanny X-Men"... but left after issue 149.

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The “Byrne Curse”

Byrne has referenced his alleged tendency to “predict” real-life events with his comic books, calling it the “Byrne Curse.”[25] In a letter to Skeptic magazine, he noted a 1977 issue of Marvel Team-Up depicting a blackout in New York, with a real-life blackout occurring the month the issue went on sale, six months after he had drawn it; an issue of Uncanny X-Men depicting a major earthquake in Japan, which again occurred in real life the month the comic was released; and an issue of Wonder Woman in which the death of the superheroine, who is an Amazon princess named Diana, is presented on the cover as a newspaper front page with the headline “Princess Diana Dies.” The issue went on sale on a Wednesday, and Britain’s Diana, Princess of Wales was killed in an accident three days later.[26]

What's up with these guys?  Byrne's X-Men co-writer, Chris Claremont, wrote #189.  Apparently, both of these guys are "uncanny".

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 01, 2008, 07:55:28 pm
I'm going to bump this thread, because the above comic page should be seen by more people. It's astounding.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: DCUBED on September 01, 2008, 08:00:59 pm
I'm going to bump this thread, because the above comic page should be seen by more people. It's astounding.

I agree, this thread is one of the best on the forum.

Does anyone have info on the people who created these comics?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on September 01, 2008, 11:48:45 pm
I agree, this thread is one of the best on the forum.

Does anyone have info on the people who created these comics?

I agree as well.  Most interesting - more specifically the writers of these comics.  Were they given a general outline to write, or did all these 'coincidental' happenings just spring from 'fertile imaginations'? ???
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on September 02, 2008, 05:14:23 am
I agree as well.  Most interesting - more specifically the writers of these comics.  Were they given a general outline to write, or did all these 'coincidental' happenings just spring from 'fertile imaginations'? ???

I was wondering if Byrne and Claremont are Masons...
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on September 02, 2008, 06:45:47 am
After watching that 9/11 coincidences or synchronicities video(Neo's passport expires 9/11/01)...I thought it might be a good idea to make a video using some of the info from this thread and Ford's blog. 


Just Like The Comics Imagined
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASuwLWUzeR4


I was wondering if Byrne and Claremont are Masons...

Did everyone notice that one of the instances of precognition, Byrne referenced in his letter to Skeptic was an issue of The Uncanny X-Men(Japanese earthquake)?  He probably worked with Claremont on that issue. 


Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: corbettreport on September 02, 2008, 07:14:18 am
After watching that 9/11 coincidences or synchronicities video(Neo's passport expires 9/11/01)...I thought it might be a good idea to make a video using some of the info from this thread and Ford's blog. 


Just Like The Comics Imagined
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASuwLWUzeR4

Awesome job putting that together into a video, 37.  Especially nice quote from Phillip K. Dick at the beginning.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 02, 2008, 07:45:55 am
After watching that 9/11 coincidences or synchronicities video(Neo's passport expires 9/11/01)...I thought it might be a good idea to make a video using some of the info from this thread and Ford's blog. 


Just Like The Comics Imagined
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASuwLWUzeR4


Did everyone notice that one of the instances of precognition, Byrne referenced in his letter to Skeptic was an issue of The Uncanny X-Men(Japanese earthquake)?  He probably worked with Claremont on that issue. 

Awesome work! Now this information will reach a lot more people. It's up on the blog.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on September 02, 2008, 01:16:27 pm
Awesome job putting that together into a video, 37.  Especially nice quote from Phillip K. Dick at the beginning.

Thanks, Corbett.  The PKD quote is from a great essay...

How to Build a Universe That Doesn't Fall Apart Two Days Later
http://deoxy.org/pkd_how2build.htm

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I wrote over thirty novels and over a hundred stories, and still I could not figure out what was real. One day a girl college student in Canada asked me to define reality for her, for a paper she was writing for her philosophy class. She wanted a one-sentence answer. I thought about it and finally said, "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." That's all I could come up with. That was back in 1972. Since then I haven't been able to define reality any more lucidly.

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The bulk of the messages elude our attention; literally, after a few hours of TV watching, we do not know what we have seen. Our memories are spurious, like our memories of dreams; the blank are filled in retrospectively. And falsified. We have participated unknowingly in the creation of a spurious reality, and then we have obligingly fed it to ourselves. We have colluded in our own doom.

And—and I say this as a professional fiction writer—the producers, scriptwriters, and directors who create these video/audio worlds do not know how much of their content is true. In other words, they are victims of their own product, along with us. Speaking for myself, I do not know how much of my writing is true, or which parts (if any) are true. This is a potentially lethal situation. We have fiction mimicking truth, and truth mimicking fiction. We have a dangerous overlap, a dangerous blur. And in all probability it is not deliberate. In fact, that is part of the problem. You cannot legislate an author into correctly labelling his product, like a can of pudding whose ingredients are listed on the label... you cannot compel him to declare what part is true and what isn't if he himself does not know.

It is an eerie experience to write something into a novel, believing it is pure fiction, and to learn later on—perhaps years later—that it is true. I would like to give you an example. It is something that I do not understand. Perhaps you can come up with a theory. I can't.

In 1970 I wrote a novel called Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said. One of the characters is a nineteen-year-old girl named Kathy. Her husband's name is Jack. Kathy appears to work for the criminal underground, but later, as we read deeper into the novel, we discover that actually she is working for the police. She has a relationship going on with a police inspector. The character is pure fiction. Or at least I thought it was.

Anyhow, on Christmas Day of 1970, I met a girl named Kathy—this was after I had finished the novel, you understand. She was nineteen years old. Her boyfriend was named Jack. I soon learned that Kathy was a drug dealer. I spent months trying to get her to give up dealing drugs; I kept warning her again and again that she would get caught. Then, one evening as we were entering a restauant together, Kathy stopped short and said, "I can't go in." Seated in the restaurant was a police inspector whom I knew. "I have to tell you the truth," Kathy said. "I have a relationship with him."

Certainly, these are odd coincidences. Perhaps I have precognition. But the mystery becomes even more perplexing; the next stage totally baffles me. It has for four years...

Go read the rest, it's awesome!

I'm glad you and Ford like the video...This is my favorite thread!

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on September 02, 2008, 01:38:26 pm
I've got to scan in a page or two from Wolverine: Agent of Shield and The Invisibles. These comic book companies who were entirely beholden to the feds for their content in the 50's and 60's under the Comics Code Authority, are all but training kids to believe in elite secret societies (populated by reptilians of course - see 'The Hand', HYDRA, and so forth), and then of course they grow up and it's all plausible deniability as regards real clubs, agencies, and fraternities. "What, you haven't grown out of that YET?"

(http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/e/ed/Hand.jpg/440px-Hand.jpg)



Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 02, 2008, 07:36:26 pm
I read the Philip Dick essay, it was fascinating! If he were still alive, he would be a synchromystic blogger.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: corbettreport on September 03, 2008, 05:41:15 am
I read the Philip Dick essay, it was fascinating! If he were still alive, he would be a synchromystic blogger.

Absolutely. I read one of his lectures a few years ago and even though I was far from awake at that time I recognized it to be dealing with an entire pocket of reality which I could but dimly grasp.  Speaking of which, I have a video coming out on the Phillip K. Dick-based "Bladerunner" shortly.  I will post a link here as soon as it's up (if that's not too off-topic).
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 03, 2008, 12:26:22 pm
I look forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: corbettreport on September 03, 2008, 04:32:21 pm
I just started a new thread for Phillip K. Dick as I didn't want to take this great thread off-topic.  It has the link to my new video:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=56926.0 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=56926.0)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 04, 2008, 10:11:03 pm
I went to the comic shop and bought Uncanny X-men #189 today. I found the splash page so astounding that I had to check it out for myself. Indeed, it does show a time traveller from our time in 1985 reflecting on seeing the towers destroyed. And this was in 1985, long before the terrorist attack in 91.

The rest of the issue was interesting, although there were no more 911 syncs. The telepath from the future recalls her past as a mind controlled assasain. She is dressed in a leather S&M type outfit, complete with collar and zipper mask.

Racheal and her friend infiltrate "the Hellfire Club", in order to track down another assasain, this one named Selene. they disguise themselves as servents, donning French maid costumes. (I'm really not making this up). Selene soon discovers the pair, and puts them in a trance and offers them to the leader of the club, Sebastion Shaw. Luckily the X-men show up to save the day. The leader of the Hellfire club asks them to leave, and they do, and no one is arrested.

Interesting that the Hellfire club was a real group, In the 18th century it was made up of british nobles who wished to engage in "immoral acts."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club

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Unlike the more determined Satanists of the 18th century, the club motto was Fay ce que vouldras (Do what thou wilt)[9], a philosophy of life associated with François Rabelais' fictional abbey at Thélème[10][11] and later used by Aleister Crowley.

Corbett, I haven't had a chance to watch the video yet, my sound is out on my com, it shold be fixed tomorrow.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on September 05, 2008, 02:18:06 am
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Racheal and her friend infiltrate "the Hellfire Club", in order to track down another assasain, this one named Selene. they disguise themselves as servents, donning French maid costumes. (I'm really not making this up). Selene soon discovers the pair, and puts them in a trance and offers them to the leader of the club, Sebastion Shaw. Luckily the X-men show up to save the day. The leader of the Hellfire club asks them to leave, and they do, and no one is arrested.

I think it can safely be said that elitism is in the DNA of superhero comics. No pun intended - elites saving the world, right? And gifted mutants - the Galton fantasia. NOT to be confused with the muggles. The prime movers of the light vs the forces of darkness, with double agents thrown in to keep things interesting... these panels are from Wolverine vs SHIELD (story arc spanned Wolverine #26-32)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/akston_42/SAVE0106.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/akston_42/SAVE0107.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 05, 2008, 05:41:45 am
Yea, that is a pretty good portrayal of elitism. Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on September 05, 2008, 11:15:40 am
Yea, that is a pretty good portrayal of elitism. Thanks for posting that.

Wait until you read 'The Invisibles'. Has anyone else seen this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invisibles

The Invisibles was Morrison's first major creator-owned title for DC Comics and it drew from his Zenith strip as well as 1990s conspiracy culture. His intent was to create a hypersigil to jump-start the culture in a more positive direction.

I'll try to find one or two of the less disturbing depictions to post here. It is extremely syncretic, mining gnosticism, OTO, and all of the fascinating distractions we run into in this movement when we try to intuit how people like the Grovers must think. (And is it of any use at all?)

"A "hypersigil" is an extended work of art with magical meaning and willpower, created using adapted processes of sigilization. This contextual meaning has been popularized by Grant Morrison, who claims that his comic series, The Invisibles, is a hypersigil."

One shudders to think of the things this man must have seen... he's likely starkers, but it's an object lesson in culture creation. In the first collection, enlightenment philosophy stands accused (unjustly, I think) of producing the most bastard of children, cannibals that feed on the substance of the world, of innocence. Morrison's suggested antidote seems along the lines of The Singularity, if I read him right - an extremely solipsistic virtual private universe in which no-one comes to harm. One outcome is that his heroes, secretive cell-based Illuminists of a sort, share some of the ethical beliefs of his villians - hedonism and do what thou wilt, but with an absurdist, laugh-at-the-world edge rather than any notion of a utopia or a Great work. I think he's just riffing on that oldest of (false) dichotomies, that between the body and mind. The mind is bad and wrong, and so we should seek refuge in the unconscious. Oh yeah, it's full of moon symbolism and resurrection stuff too, as you might expect of the esoteric.

One small positive aspect is the implication that all these rabbit holes are dead ends.

One small example, look: the Fool is the Hanged Man (on the previous page, the kid was upside down - I just grabbed this off the web, don't have a scanner here). It's full of this stuff. The Marquis de Sade shows up as an incarnation of the World Dancer. Okay, fark this, I'm going outside for a bit...

(http://pah2.golding.id.au/images/InvisiblesArcadaDualism3.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: rockyreggaeclark on September 08, 2008, 02:17:40 pm
Found this thread today, pretty old but...

I just wanted to say, to those people trashing the anime's and manga, that they have a much older society than us, and when they have stories dealing with cybernetics, genetics, et al they aren't like our culture where it's basically an advertisement for genetics when spidey gets his powers from radiated spider's bite.  In japan they read the stories different, and you should as well, for framing just understand they look into morality issues and with the relation to current realikty.  maybe some of ya'll aren't quick enough to understand sci-fi, but we put issues from today into stories placed in the future or currently but with aliens, EX: The Invasion, w/ nicole kidman & Daniel "9/11 truth" Craig starring as doctors who look at the information & realize they are being taken over by aliens, only, when the aliens take over, all the nations begin signing peace accords & nuclear non-proliferation agreements, i.e. the aliens stand in for the NWO.  Amazing way to get the truth out, and as a truther I knew that's what they were talking about from the beginning with the Iraq info on the radio in the beginning. 

But in japan, they use sci-fi for the same reasons, they need to get info out.  a lot of manga is written as a sort of, this is the right way to act, teaching kids in better ways than our old danny & doofus techniques.  Sadly, our comics aren't like the asian anime's, they're pro NWO and they are pro eugenics, right?

We should start a sci-fi thread, that Invastion flick freaked me out, hope some of ya'll check it out, might help clue somebody's family in, after they've been prepped, but don't realize the truth, show a flick where the principles of enjoying it, science fiction, implore them to read between the lines...right? 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on September 08, 2008, 02:32:25 pm
Daniel Craig is a truther? When the hell did that happen?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 08, 2008, 03:14:07 pm
I haven't read any Manga or Anime, so I will take your word for it. Yes, there is no doubt that some messages are sent to us in comic books, where things like the NWO and HARP have stand ins like Aliens, or hypnosis. There are a lot of them where the author is just telling a story and a message comes through that was not intended.

I don't think there is a formula you can use to judge if a comic is "pro or con" NWO. For instance, Say you read in a comic the population has been reduced 95%, and the remaining 5% serve a ruling elite. Is it a pro NWO comic showing victory or is it a warning to the population on what could happen?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on September 08, 2008, 03:15:59 pm
Daniel Craig is a truther? When the hell did that happen?

Alex has hinted that one of the Bond's (007) is a closet truther.  Haven't heard anything about it lately.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 09, 2008, 02:35:25 pm
A couple of more I have found in my browsings.

(http://i36.tinypic.com/rkbvp1.jpg)

That is a kick ass shield! If I had a shield like that, I would have to have a covenant over it.

From the 50's

(http://i38.tinypic.com/ipa6is.jpg)

Hey, I don't remember Washington having a large white pyramid! And why is the capitol building in the clouds?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on September 09, 2008, 02:56:40 pm
Someone at You Tube pointed this out to me...

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/elektra/9-1.jpg)

Notice there is a ribbon with the twin towers, so this was made after 9/11.  Notice the 9/11 in the Bar code. 

Sacrifice to the Goddess.  Telling us what the truth of 9/11 really is.

Elektra is holding our shackles out to us...I think this goddess might be bad news.

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/elektra/6-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on September 09, 2008, 03:32:53 pm
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Elektra is holding our shackles out to us...I think this goddess might be bad news.

Mmmn... girl ninjas...

Elektra figures prominently in the vaguely Illuminist "The Hand" storylines. It's all about being a double agent, and not knowing who's side you're on. In one panel, she tells Wolverine that she's been undercover - he tells her about the body count of (friendly) Shield agents she's racked up, to which her reply is "Deep cover"

Seems she felt as well that one has to break a few eggs to make an omelette.



Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 10, 2008, 11:28:52 pm
(http://i26.tinypic.com/16m6czm.jpg)

(http://i27.tinypic.com/afbibr.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/345k36s.jpg)

As I have stated previously in this thread by belief that the Martian Manhunter(The one in green) is a stand in for the green skinned Egyptian god Osiris, and the three eyed Despero represents the Eye of Horus. Osiris was the father of  Horus, and as seen in the Seallion videos, the attacks may have been a mega ritual to release the goddess Isis, who is the wife of Osiris and the mother of Horus. In the pic on the left, we see them looking at an explosion across the river in an unnamed city. One may think the writer and artist is being unsensitive showing a scene like this, but the comic it came from is Justice League Task Force #19 cover date Jan 1995! That scene was drawn 6 years before 911!

Ive done a little more research on this story arc. I have the issue before the one with the pics posted. The explosion was supposedly in Cleveland Ohio. However, the city on the water with the smoking building looks just like New York did on 911. The heroes and Villian pictured are the Martian Manhunter, L-Ron, and Vandal Savage. L-ron is an alien robot lifeform who has taken over the three eyed Despero's body. L-Ron is named for L Ron Hubbard, the founder of scientology.
I found this on Vandal Savage's wiki page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_Savage

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Savage's first mark in the "history" of the DC Universe came when he and a select group of people successfully undermined and destroyed the lost city of Atlantis. That group of people became known as the Illuminati, with Savage serving as its leader, then and ever since.

He didn't destroy the building, but the leader of the "illuminati" is there watching it burn, along with the founder of Scientology and my favorite Martian. The main plot of the story is that someone is killing Savage's descendants to keep him from harvesting their organs. The group in question has a hourglass for a symbol. The syncs are coming together with this one, but I am gong to wait until I get ahold of Justice League Task Force #20 before posting about it on the blog.

Nice Elektra Pic. Looks like the devil sign in the second pic.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on September 11, 2008, 01:49:46 pm
Apologies...

Here is the Elektra cover I was directed to...it is from 1997.

(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/elektra9.jpg)

Notice the 911 in the barcode...and the price is $1.99

The YouTube user who pointed this out is going to use some of my video in a series he has been working on called 911 Hidden in Hollywood.

There are 7 episodes complete and #8 will be about comics.  He has promised to put a link to Ford's blog in the info section.

Here is a link to the first video in the series...
911 Hidden in Hollywood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1k8AxGe4g

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 11, 2008, 03:26:08 pm
Great find! And much thanks to the you tube guy.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: starchildtesla on September 20, 2008, 10:35:29 pm
http://www.illuminatientertainment.com/

look at whose writing these comic books
BUSTED!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 21, 2008, 07:04:55 am
(http://i37.tinypic.com/rjnr85.jpg)

Little hand pointing to 9, big hand pointing to 11. Published May 1981. We bought you some time Rock, about 20 years.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 04, 2008, 08:34:19 am
Wonder Woman #287 from Jan 1982

(http://i35.tinypic.com/28l5oic.jpg)

Building 7 explained at last. It appears a plane did hit it, only it was an invisible plane. I was pretty shocked when I found this one.
Title: WTC 7 Hit by Invisible Plane!
Post by: Ford on October 06, 2008, 08:49:16 am
Does anyone else think it looks like a Salomon Brothers Building?
Title: Re: WTC 7 Hit by Invisible Plane!
Post by: Biggs on October 06, 2008, 10:56:44 am
Does anyone else think it looks like a Salomon Brothers Building?

it is eerily similar I have to agree
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on October 06, 2008, 06:12:37 pm
(http://911review.com/attack/wtc/imgs/wtc7_tall1.jpg)

Look at the reflection on the side of the building.  Looks a lot like the building in the background of the comic book cover.

BTW, that Sgt. Rock post really cracks me up, Ford.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 06, 2008, 09:03:07 pm
It's the same size and shape, but the windows are a bit different. The reflection on the actual building does look like the one opposite of the building in the comic book.  Even if it's not building 7, the comic shows a plane plowing through a building in New York, which is incredible.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on October 06, 2008, 09:18:44 pm
The penthouses look the same also.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 07, 2008, 06:39:05 am
(http://i38.tinypic.com/n4wbd4.jpg)

THis cover is by the great Ace Hartly, who did many Christian inspired covers. It appears to be a modern version of the story of Joseph and his brothers who betrayed him. But why is it showing a plane that is about to crash into a skyscraper? Joe is standing in a field, and the plane appears to be getting shot down by a military jet, which is what many say happened in Pennsylvania. This one is from the 70's, and I would love to get a hold of it to find out what is going on.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: menace on October 07, 2008, 07:04:50 am
(http://i38.tinypic.com/n4wbd4.jpg)

THis cover is by the great Ace Hartly, who did many Christian inspired covers. It appears to be a modern version of the story of Joseph and his brothers who betrayed him. But why is it showing a plane that is about to crash into a skyscraper? Joe is standing in a field, and the plane appears to be getting shot down by a military jet, which is what many say happened in Pennsylvania. This one is from the 70's, and I would love to get a hold of it to find out what is going on.

You can read the comic online here

http://www.carpsplace.com/spire/My%20Brothers%20Keeper.pdf
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: menace on October 07, 2008, 07:19:14 am
Hansi: The Girl Who Loved the Swastika [

http://www.carpsplace.com/spire/Hansi.pdf
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: iks83 on October 07, 2008, 09:08:30 am
omfg that comic is mind boggling propaganda... so insane... im speechless
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 07, 2008, 10:30:40 am
You can read the comic online here

http://www.carpsplace.com/spire/My%20Brothers%20Keeper.pdf

Thanks. No trace of conspiracy in the comic itself, it stayed true to the original, and I enjoyed it. I would say the cover was a coincidence, but I don't believe in coincidences anymore.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 07, 2008, 10:49:16 am
omfg that comic is mind boggling propaganda... so insane... im speechless

I'm afraid I must concur. It shows that books were promoted by the Nazis in order to take christians away from the bible. It also justifies operation paperclip, a program to bring Nazis to America after the war, while demonizing the Russians by portraying them as barbaric rapists.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 07, 2008, 02:16:10 pm
I've always enjoyed Al Hartley's art, but after reading Hansi, I did a little research.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hartley

Hartley's father was a senator who is famous for co-authoring the Taft-Hartley Act, a bill that restricted the power of labor unions.
   
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Hartley was the son of Congressman Frederick Allan Hartley, Jr. (Republican from New Jersey), co-author of the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft-Hartley_Act

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The Labor–Management Relations Act, informally the Taft–Hartley Act, is a United States federal law greatly restricting the activities and power of labor unions. The Act, still effective, was sponsored by Senator Robert Taft and Representative Fred A. Hartley, Jr. and legislated by over-riding U.S. President Harry S. Truman's veto on June 23, 1947; labor leaders called it the "slave-labor bill"[1] while President Truman argued it would "conflict with important principles of our democratic society"[2] despite subsequently using it twelve times during his presidency.[3] The Taft-Hartley Act amended the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA; informally the Wagner Act), which Congress passed in 1935. The principal author of the Taft-Hartley Act was J. Mack Swigert[4] of the Cincinnati law firm Taft, Stettinius & Hollister, who as of 2007 was still active at age 100.[5]

The bill changed the course of American history.

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The amendments enacted in Taft-Hartley added a list of prohibited actions, or "unfair labor practices", on the part of unions to the NLRA, which had previously only prohibited "unfair labor practices" committed by employers. The Taft-Hartley Act prohibited jurisdictional strikes, wildcat strikes, solidarity or political strikes, secondary boycotts, "common situs" picketing, closed shops, and monetary donations by unions to federal political campaigns. It also required union officers to sign non-communist affidavits with the government. Union shops were heavily restricted, and states were allowed to pass "right-to-work laws" that outlawed union shops. Furthermore, the executive branch of the Federal government could obtain legal strikebreaking injunctions if an impending or current strike "imperiled the national health or safety," a test that has been interpreted broadly by the courts.

The Co-sponser of the bill, Robert Taft, was a member of Skull and Bones and the grandson of the founder of Skull and Bones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonso_Taft

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His son, William Howard Taft, was the 27th President of the United States and was a member of Yale's Skull and Bones like his founder father; another son, Charles Phelps Taft, supported the founding of Wolf's Head Society at Yale; both his grandson and great-grandson, Robert A. Taft I (also Skull and Bones) and Robert Taft Jr., were U.S. Senators


So what does this have to do with Al Hartley? Probably nothing, but it is interesting that this journey started with a comic book cover showing a plane that looked like it was going to smash into a building, and his wiki page is two clicks away from the founder of Skull and Bones. Synchromysticism in action.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on October 14, 2008, 08:24:11 am



The YouTube user who pointed this out is going to use some of my video in a series he has been working on called 911 Hidden in Hollywood.

There are 7 episodes complete and #8 will be about comics.  He has promised to put a link to Ford's blog in the info section.

Here is a link to the first video in the series...
911 Hidden in Hollywood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1k8AxGe4g


The Comics Video is up...and it has a lot of incredible stuff in it.

Some of the drawings look like shots I have seen from 9/11 news footage.


911 Hidden in Hollywood Comics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn20B6dZJLM

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 14, 2008, 04:59:18 pm
Wow! He had some stuff I wasn't aware of!

Watch the video while you can, he is getting shut down soon according to this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukk0evRo8Qc&watch_response
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Sundosia on October 14, 2008, 05:11:11 pm
Wow! He had some stuff I wasn't aware of!

Watch the video while you can, he is getting shut down soon according to this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukk0evRo8Qc&watch_response
Good stuff.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 14, 2008, 05:15:20 pm
I have a lot of 1930s-1950s UFO comic/pulp covers - very cool - some kinda BlueBeam related. Gives a historical perspective on how the imagery and concepts evolved in the communal consciousness. But I don't want to hi-jack this FANTASTIC thread if you guys think it would not fit i with the 911 synchronicity stuff. What do you think?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 14, 2008, 08:47:09 pm
I have a lot of 1930s-1950s UFO comic/pulp covers - very cool - some kinda BlueBeam related. Gives a historical perspective on how the imagery and concepts evolved in the communal consciousness. But I don't want to hi-jack this FANTASTIC thread if you guys think it would not fit i with the 911 synchronicity stuff. What do you think?

By all means, post them. This thread belongs to everyone, not just one member. I love looking at covers from that era.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 14, 2008, 11:16:20 pm
U F O  A R T

Thanks FORD ... I hope you find this stuff interesting and somewhat related.

This is a selection of covers - comics and "pulp" magazines from early in the century ... before the 1947 Roswell incident and before the first big flap of 1952, when Kenneth Arnold coined the term 'flying saucer'. Some are before Buck Rogers even ... but as we can see, the concept and imagery was well established by 1950 - with discs (and other shapes), beams as weapons and 'lifting' devices, green men, abductions and 'medicaL' exams, invasions, space gods, etc.

Of course there were 'sightings' reported in the 19th and early 20th century, and there was a wealth of early science fiction (Verne, Wells, et al), and I suppose the imagery and storyline sprang from that. What part the NWO movement played in popularizing/spreading this concept I do not know - but maybe we can start here to try to make sense of it.

I have a nice collection of early Science Fiction pulp, UFO lit, etc, but these I pulled off the net. I'll try to get some of my stuff scanned, too. If people like this I would love to show more ... and how the imagery progressed in the pop culture on through the '50s to the present - and I hope others may have more items too. And do forgive me if it doesn't fit well with the other comics here.

~~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~~
 
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/ElectricalExperimenter-06-1915.jpg)
1915

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/ElectricalExperimenter1918-04.jpg)
1918

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/ScienceWonderStories1929-11.jpg)
1929

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/AirWonderStories1930-04.jpg)
1930

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/WonderStories-11-1931.jpg)
1931

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/AstoundingStories1935-06.jpg)
1935

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/WonderStories1936-04.jpg)
1936

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Spaceways03-1941.jpg)
1941

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FantasticAdventures1947-11.jpg)
1947

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/AmazingStories1947-12.jpg)
1947


~~~~~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~~~~~
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 14, 2008, 11:38:03 pm
That's some great stuff! In the last one, the "green man" they are refering to would have to be the Egytian God Osirus, who had green skin.

This one from 1962 reminds me of 911, although it was before the towers were built.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/2mocn6b.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Pupil on October 14, 2008, 11:40:44 pm
Quote
911 Hidden in Hollywood Comics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn20B6dZJLM

The Superman issue that came out Sept 12, 2001 is positively chilling!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on October 15, 2008, 07:33:43 am

Very cool stuff, Jackson!  Keep it coming.

Interesting that there are discs, triangles and abductions represented before WWII.


The Superman issue that came out Sept 12, 2001 is positively chilling!

(http://www.icv2.com/images/260798Sup596md.jpg)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on October 15, 2008, 08:56:29 am
(http://www.thefourthrail.com/images/reviews/091001/adventuresofsuperman596.jpg)

DC Makes Adventures of Superman #596 Returnable
One of Many Companies Pulling WTC/Terrorism References
Published: 09/17/2001
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/714.html

DC Comics announced today that the Adventures of Superman #596 would be returnable.  The issue shipped to stores last Wednesday, the day after the horrific attack on the twin towers of World Trade Center in New York City.  Due to an unfortunate coincidence the Superman comic features a scene in which Metropolis's twin LexCorp Towers have sustained damage due to events in the 'Our Worlds at War' storyline.

 
ICv2 talked to several midwestern retailers about the returnability of the Adventures of Superman #596, and they told us sales on the issue were brisk, and that they wouldn't have any to return.  One dealer was holding his two remaining copies for regular customers, rather than see them go to speculators.  Some may think the item will become a collector's item, but there was no significant action on the issue on eBay as of Monday afternoon.  Regardless, the retailers ICv2 talked with doubted whether many copies would be returned, though people on the East coast may feel differently about the book.

 
While the television networks can't resist showing the airliners crashing into the WTC towers over and over, the rest of the entertainment industry seems eager to spare the public anything that might remind them of last week's tragic occurrences.  The image of the twin towers has been airbrushed off Spidey's shades for the poster for the new Spider-Man film, and the studio is trying to suppress the teaser trailer, which shows Spidey nab a helicopter full of villains with a cable strung between the twin towers of the World Trade Center. The twin towers are also being excised from the Men in Black sequel, and the latest Arnold Schwarznegger shoot 'em up, blow' em up cinematic extravaganza has been postponed. Even a Jerry Stiller comedy film, Zoolander, will have the twin towers optically removed from location footage shot in New York.  The remake of The Time Machine, originally set for a December release, has been pushed back to February, reportedly because of a sequence in which an explosion on the moon sends a shower of meteors down on New York City.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on October 15, 2008, 08:59:54 am
great work guys, lots of thought provoking stuff re 9-11 and old skool UFO comics - not quite as new a concept as we like to think
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 15, 2008, 11:07:31 am

Good work 37 getting that SUPERMAN article up. Those coincidence theorists were having a field day with that one, huh? Check out this SUPERMAN cover from 1959 - and then I will continue with some more pre-War items and through the "Big Flap" year of 1952.

U n i d e n t i f i e d  F l y i n g  O b j e c t s

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Superman1959.jpg)
From 1959 - Superman battles the UFO 'futuremen' in the year 2000.

~~~~~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~~~~~

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/ElectricalExperimenter-12-1915.jpg)
From 1915 - Pyramids, beams and flying saucers.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/AmazingStories1927-08.jpg)
H. G. Wells War of the Worlds - pre-Radio scare - in 1927


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/ThrillingWonderStories-01-1940.jpg)
1940 - Space Conquerers attack New York.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/MechanixIllustrated1947-05.jpg)
May 1947, about 3 months before Roswell - what is it?


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Radar1948.jpg)
UFO attack from 1948.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/CosmicFlame1950.jpg)
Pulp paperback from 1950 - KÒÓL art! They look like Atlanta police today!


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/IsAnotherWorld1950.jpg)
A 1950 look at some UFO cases - paperback.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/WeirdScience1950.jpg)
1950 - He says, "The Air Force flatly denies the existence of the flying saucers - utter nonsence! Poppy-cock!"


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/SwiftMorgan1950.jpg)
From 1950 - saucers and little green men in the desert near Roswell - hmmm.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/BehindTheFlyingSaucers1951.jpg)
Great 1952 paperback cover arts strikes fear into the hearts of men - and ladies.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Bio-Muton1952.jpg)
1952 - this rings a lot of bells for me.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/RedPeri1952.jpg)
Paperback from 1952 - another Flyin' Triangle.

~~~~~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~~~~~

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 15, 2008, 01:03:11 pm
Superman 596 is indeed an astounding find, and it is an issue I wish to get ahold of soon.

Jackson, that Superman cover is hillarious! And I loved the pulp covers. They always seem to ba attacking Washington or New York don't they?


Check out Action Comics 469. It has the twin towers in it, and it is possibly the most homo-erotic Superman cover of all time.

(http://i36.tinypic.com/zxo67b.jpg)



Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on October 15, 2008, 01:17:55 pm
I notice that the 1915 comic by HG Wells (War of the Worlds) also contains a storyline by Julian Huxley, a major NWO thinker and founding member of UNESCO - brainwashing the world's kids to 'serve the needs of society' - Sub-X did a great thread on that somewhere on this forum.

now I wonder why he would be writing UFO comic stories, his uncle was the famosu author not him, I guess it would be to play a part in the conditioning process perhaps in preparation for a blue beam even, or perhaps just to aid in the distraction process, have peopel chasing fairy tales and not facing the real enemy

(not that UFO's are definitely all human in origin, but clearly the field of research is packed jam filled with lots of disinfo designed to distract from the real problems and enemy)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Pupil on October 16, 2008, 10:49:01 pm
(http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/ggmain/strips/ggmain20050701.jpg)

From Girl Genius Online (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/) by Phil and Kaja Foglio

Panel 1 has a pyramid with an all seeing eye as part of the architecture of the bridge they're on.  The storyline of the comic itself takes place in a steampunk world where there is a group of genetically superior "Sparks" who are extremely gifted with machines. The main character seems to be the last decendant of a super-race of "Heterodynes."

I still read it, though, because I like the artwork, and some of the jokes are pretty funny. :)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 17, 2008, 12:58:31 pm

Biggs:

You’re right - all the names you would expect were writing this stuff back in the day. It would be a good project to track down some of these other bylines ... I would bet a lot of them are ghost names - and a list of the publishers/owners would be a nice thing to have as well.

What I am trying to get to here is what the heck is this all about? How much of the UFO phenomenon is 'real' and how much is Illuminati mind-control?

Did the CIA/NASA usurp a popular science fiction theme from the turn-of-the-century with which to further their Space Gods / Great White Brotherhood gobble-de-goop? Did they control both sides of the 'UFO question' for all these decades? Or ... are the UFOs actually ET, and TPTB are de-bunking it with this pop-culture stuff to hide/dilute a secret collaboration w/ET?

~~~~~ ~ ~ O ~ ~ ~~~~~

T H E   E I S E N H O W E R   E R A

This was the post-War decade ... the ATOMIC age ... the Korean War ... Ike & Nixon ... blue suede shoes ... trans~Atlantic jet flights ... CIA & MJ12 ... Sputnik ... Khrushchev ... John Glenn ... Invasion of the Body Snatchers ... Telestar ... and Flying Saucers. The imagery and the mythology built on the earlier publications and was fueled by the reported sightings, apparent Government/Illuminati dis-info and ... well, just the iresistable fun of it all!

~~~~~~ O ~ O ~  O ~~~~~~

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FlyingSaucersAreReal.jpg)
1950 - First UFO book by Donald Keyhoe, later of PROJECT BLUEBOOK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Keyhoe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Keyhoe)
http://hubpages.com/hub/Unidentified-Flying-Objects (http://hubpages.com/hub/Unidentified-Flying-Objects)


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/AfterTheAtom1953.jpg)
1953 - BE AFRAID - 'they' are pissed at us about the BOMB!


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/MysteryInSpace1953.jpg)
From 1953 - Cosmic Space~Dragon glorified by HOLLYWOOD


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/MechanixIllus1956.jpg)
In 1956 - The AIR FORCE reveals OUR Flying Saucer - WTF?


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Imagination1956.jpg)
1956 pulp mag with Citadel of the Star Lords - and mind control beams

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Fate1956.jpg)
From 1956 - Texas sighting and capsizing Earth - pole flip?


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FantasticUniverse1957.jpg)
More New York Harbor saucers from 1957 - what pilots a UFO?


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/CosmicVoice1958.jpg)
A UFO 'research' mag from 1958.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Saucerian1958.jpg)
1958 SAUCERIAN BULLETIN - death rays from above. OK.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/SpaceAdventures58.jpg)
THE EYE IN SPACE - 1958. Are 'they' trying to tell us something?


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/TalesOfSuspense1959.jpg)
1959 - "They're invincible. We haven't a chance."


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/TwilightZone1959.jpg)
1959, from the TV show - abductions.

~~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~~



Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 17, 2008, 11:30:44 pm
Good stuff Jackson. Check this out.

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/search?q=mars+face

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2edp99u.jpg)

Jack Kirby wrote this comic in 1958, 18 years before the Viking satelite photo of the face on Mars!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Pupil on October 17, 2008, 11:40:11 pm
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Jack Kirby wrote this comic in 1958, 18 years before the Viking satelite photo of the face on Mars!

Wow. Just... wow. THAT is very cool. I've always been skeptical that it was really a face on Mars, but this is compelling.

And I just have to ask - are you guys the worlds biggest comic book geeks, or is there a place online you're finding these images? I'm astounded by all the amazing old comics you're digging up.  I say "comic book geeks" with respect, by the way. It's a hobby I shared in a limited way (just the Batman titles in the early '90s, actually - Norm Breyfogle at his best).
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 18, 2008, 08:24:39 am
This thread was inspired partly by the work of Jake Kotze and Chris Knowles.

http://rundonotwalk.blogspot.com/
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/

Having a large collection myself, I found several references to 9-11 in comics, and after starting this thread many others joined in. In order to reach a larger audience, I started a blog.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/

After starting the blog, many others came forth with 911 syncs that I was not aware of. And yes, I am a geek. :D

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on October 18, 2008, 11:59:15 am
Jackson - I agree that man of these stories could well have been ghost written and in fact the proportion of NWO writers could indeed be far greater than is at first apparant.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 18, 2008, 02:09:05 pm
T H E  P I V O T A L  1 9 6 0s

JFK and LSD ... Man on the Moon in ten years ... the Beatles ...
Space Race/Cold War ... Political Assassinations ... Vietnam ... CIA & the American Empire ... total TV dominance / Main Frames / Communication Satellites ... Approach of 1984, literally and figuratively.

The UFO phenomenon takes on a new aura - Hollywood. STAR TREK ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek ) and 2001: A Space Odyssey ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_trivia ) ... the two godfather/precursors of the onslaught to come ... the complete tsunami of sci-fi/space-gods mythology about to smother the planet.

Reported sightings continue unabated  ( http://www.ufocasebook.com/Hill.html ) - there were government reports on UFOs - research groups all over the place - MSM tell-alls ... and Space Gods ... with Erich von Daniken leading the way ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Däniken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Däniken) ). It was during this decade that the Utopian/Theosophy Space~God dream really gained mainstream appeal. ( http://www.kheper.net/topics/Theosophy/index.htm ). Not that the FEAR of the little green men was not emphasized ... it was ... but the Space Brotherhood of Hunt, Bailey, Adamski, et al gained serious ground.
 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hunt_Williamson ).

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From 1960 - "Look up at the sky ... it is filled with wonder for us all. Don't blind yourself with antiquated opinions and Earthbound cliches! Look as I do, Look and believe!"


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Adolph Hitler with a saucer and little green men - BLACK MAGIC comic, 1960.


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1960 - America's favorite comic hero is no match for the UFO invaders!
http://books.google.com/books?id=B9FRwgBX0DEC&pg=PA115&lpg=
PA115&dq=the+superman+ouspensky&source=bl&ots=zE2qA-D-a5&sig=
H6j7WnpE6lp-T0T-OOrrkP0NVm8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result (http://books.google.com/books?id=B9FRwgBX0DEC&pg=PA115&lpg=
PA115&dq=the+superman+ouspensky&source=bl&ots=zE2qA-D-a5&sig=
H6j7WnpE6lp-T0T-OOrrkP0NVm8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result)


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1960 - There was apparently a good bit of "Skunk Working" (back engineering?) going on - some serious, some diversionary.


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One of many such Psychic/Religio/UFO treatises published around this time - 1960.


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1960 paperback - trying to make sense of stuff like this:
http://www.footagefarm.co.uk/Footage%20Farm%20website/Web%20lists/UFOs-Flying%20Saucers.htm (http://www.footagefarm.co.uk/Footage%20Farm%20website/Web%20lists/UFOs-Flying%20Saucers.htm)


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1960 Paperback - notice that change? Now it's the gods ... not scary aliens.


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1961 - SPACE WAR comic - the coming War With The Gods.


(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FlyingSaucersInTheBible1963.jpg)
From 1963 - NOT a new concept folks.


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Another prayerful booklet - 1964.


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A 1966 book debunks the debunkers.
http://robert-barrow.blogspot.com/2007/08/dr-leon-davidson-and-blue-books-bounty.html (http://robert-barrow.blogspot.com/2007/08/dr-leon-davidson-and-blue-books-bounty.html)


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1967 - "The CIA and the Little Green Men".


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1967 - By this date ... two years before man-on-the-moon ...
a fully conceived reptilian space god image and I assume, story.


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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 20, 2008, 01:00:46 pm


~O~  1970s: Looking For GOD In All The Wrong Places  ~O~


Nixon & Watergate ... Nascent NeoCons & Tri-Laterals ... Kissinger ... more war, of course. This was pre-PC, Heathkits notwithstanding ... an undercurrent of awakening, dubbed Conspiracy Theory by the media ... Arthur C. Clarke, moon-walking, Dead Sea Scrolls, societal degradation, Hyneck (http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/wizardfl/HYNEK.html (http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/wizardfl/HYNEK.html)), Billy Meier, Freaks & Straights ... Pascagoula (http://www.ufologie.net/htm/pascagoula.htm (http://www.ufologie.net/htm/pascagoula.htm)) ...  Stadium Rock & Disco ... Pantheism/the Greening of America ... EPA ... gas lines ... Jimmy Who?

Stanton Friedman breaks the Roswell story: ( http://www.stantonfriedman.com/ (http://www.stantonfriedman.com/) ).

UFO mythology and imagery becomes evermore prevalent throughout pop culture ... morphing into an all-encompassing Sci-Fi vengeful God zeitgeist. 
Theosophical~Millennium fever sets in ... the coming battle for Jerusalem becomes evident ... we jump on board the Hollywood God Chariot and zoom right into the latter years of the decade ~ Close Encounters of the Third Kind ~ ET: The Extraterrestrial ~ Star Trek ~ Battlestar Galactica ~ and of course, the ultimate leap into hyperspace: STAR WARS.

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Ancient Space-God Cult novel ~ 1974.


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1974 ~ More Illuminati/Theosophical UFO tie-ins with you know who.


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An off-the-shelf comic from 1975 ~ they are coming for you!


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MAN-GODS ... who walked Earth before time began ... 1975.


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A Baptist Church publication ... they knew. Wish I could find a copy.


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OK ... the 'watchers' are taking care of the eugenics business. 1976.


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1977 - pulp in español. Religion of the UFOs (Ovnis).

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A "Close Encounter with Tomorrow's Gods and Demons". 1978.


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1978 - The UFO decapitates the ben-ben from the world's largest obelisk.


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1978 - With Cosmic Trigger - the secrets of the Illuminati revealed.
http://www.rawilson.com/trigger1.shtml (http://www.rawilson.com/trigger1.shtml)


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I BELIEVE!! - paperback novel, 1979.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on October 21, 2008, 05:58:16 am
Great stuff once again Jackson. I was a child of the seventies, I remember the film Close encounters of the third Kind, as well as Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods". It's also when the first Star Wars and Star Trek movies came out, as well as the TV show Battlestar Galactica, which connected the UFO's with ancient Egypt.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 23, 2008, 10:29:29 am
(NOTE: The Photobucket image deleted in my last post is a paperback cover with a representation of Hitler and a swastica - go figure!)


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O O ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ O O

One of the great mysteries of our time is UFOs ... are they real, solid objects? Are they piloted by living beings? If so, who ... and do they mean us harm? If they are not piloted objects, then what? Pure imagination? Mass hypnotism/hysteria? Hoaxes? Governmental dis-info? All of the above?

Whatever the answers to these questions are, it is easy to see that the pop culture of the US and much of the world is, at this point, saturated by UFO lore and its off-shoots, unrelenting imaginative ‘science fiction’ everywhere you look. Probably a majority of people alive in the US today were born since the mid-seventies, when the high tech blockbuster sci-fi industry really took off. They cannot imagine a world without this overlay of ‘science fiction’.
(http://m1.aol.com/prydonians/top100.html (http://m1.aol.com/prydonians/top100.html))

What would the world look like today if not for Star Wars, for instance, or The Matrix, or Blade Runner ... or video/computer games ... what would our architecture look like, for instance? Or automobiles? Would we be the same creatures we are today without the esoteric sci-fi framework? How much of our core being has been shaped by the onslaught of this sophisticated Electro~Hollywood Sci-Fi?
(http://scifidrive.com/2008/02/20/evolution-of-science-fiction-cinema-the-early-20th-century/ (http://scifidrive.com/2008/02/20/evolution-of-science-fiction-cinema-the-early-20th-century/))

(http://www.unomaha.edu/jrf/paradiso.htm (http://www.unomaha.edu/jrf/paradiso.htm))

Some among us imagined the future ... and it came to pass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulp_magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulp_magazine)

http://www.stationlink.com/pulpdom/pulphist.html (http://www.stationlink.com/pulpdom/pulphist.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction)

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Here I would like to refer you to two of my earlier posts which may help to tie these thoughts together ... or not!

This links to a George Hunt Williamson 1950 book SECRET OF THE ANDES ... very theosophical ... helps to get a handle on all this Space Brotherhood / NWO / New Age claptrap:

http://digitalseance.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/
secret-of-the-andes-george-hunt-williamson/ (http://digitalseance.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/
secret-of-the-andes-george-hunt-williamson/)

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=24746.msg263602#msg263602 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=24746.msg263602#msg263602)

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See “Rancher Memo” ... plain weird. Truth or Bluebeam:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=57160.msg312586#msg312586  (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=57160.msg312586#msg312586)

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More Theosophy info:

http://www.lukemastin.com/utopia/index.html (http://www.lukemastin.com/utopia/index.html)


The Theosophical Emblem

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http://www.ts-adyar.org/emblem.html

http://theosophy.org/

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Sci~Fi Overlords

So ... who are the writers of all this UFO / SPACE GOD Sci-Fi? Who published it? Should we suspect the usual culprits ... the elite / bluebloods who are intent on a scheme of esoteric / Satanic brain~washing of the masses??

First let’s take a look at some of the recurring names from the ‘Golden Age’. First and foremost is Hugo Gernsback, from whose name we get the “Hugo Awards” for sci-fi excellence.

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http://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues/2004-10-01/feature1/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Gernsback

Hugo Gernsback

Born in Luxembourg City, Gernsback emigrated to the United States in 1905 and later became a naturalized citizen. He married three times: to Rose Harvey in 1906, Dorothy Kantrowitz in 1921, and Mary Hancher in 1951. In 1925, Hugo founded radio station WRNY and was involved in the first television broadcasts. He is also considered a pioneer in amateur radio.

Gernsback started the modern genre of science fiction by founding the first magazine dedicated to it, Amazing Stories, in 1926. He said he became interested in the concept after reading a translation of the work of Percival Lowell as a child. He also played a key role in starting science fiction fandom, by publishing the addresses of people who wrote letters to his magazines. In 1929, he lost ownership of his first magazines after a bankruptcy lawsuit. There is some debate about whether this process was genuine, manipulated by publisher Bernarr Macfadden, or was a Gernsback scheme to begin another company.

After losing control of Amazing Stories, Gernsback founded two new science fiction magazines, Science Wonder Stories and Air Wonder Stories. A year later, due to Depression-era financial troubles, the two were merged together into Wonder Stories, which Gernsback continued to publish until 1936, when it was sold to Thrilling Publications and renamed Thrilling Wonder Stories. Gernsback was noted for sharp (and sometimes shady) business practices,[2] and for paying his writers extremely low fees.[3] H. P. Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith referred to him as "Hugo the Rat."[4] Gernsback returned in 1952-53 with Science-Fiction Plus.

Gernsback wrote some fiction, including the novel Ralph 124C 41+ in 1911 (the title was a pun of the phrase "one to foresee for one"). Though hugely influential at the time, and filled with numerous science fiction ideas, the plot, characters, and writing strike most modern readers as shallow and old-fashioned.

The Science Fiction Achievement awards, given to various works each year by vote of the members of the World Science Fiction Society, are named the "Hugos" after him. He was one of 1996's inaugural inductees into the Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame.

Before creating a literary genre, Gernsback was an entrepreneur in the electronics industry, importing radio parts from Europe to the United States and helping to popularize amateur "wireless". In April 1908 founded Modern Electrics, the world's first magazine about electronics. Under its auspices, in January 1909, he founded the Wireless Association of America, which had 10,000 members within a year. In 1912, Gernsback said that he estimated 400,000 people in the U.S. were involved in amateur radio. In 1913, he founded a similar magazine, The Electrical Experimenter, which became Science and Invention in 1920. It was in these magazines that he began including scientific fiction stories alongside science journalism.

Gernsback held 80 patents by the time of his death in New York City on August 19, 1967.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Oak_Crown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Oak_Crown)

Gernsback was the recipient of the ORDER OF THE OAK CROWN, along with other luminaries: Alphonse Berns - Charles, Count of Limburg Stirum - Charles, Prince of Wales - Dennis Hastert - Jean Hengen - Henry J. Leir - Astrid Lulling - Otto Schily - Émile Servais - Joseph Weyland and many others.


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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 28, 2008, 12:14:21 pm

~O~   I N D U S T R I A L   L I G H T   &   M A G I C   ~O~

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/Palpatine.jpg)
Palpatine / Emperor

Now let's take a look at one of the movie moguls of the late 20th early 21st Century - the guy who gave us Star Wars and so much more - and, of course, we are talking about GEORGE LUCAS. Volumes have been written about the Star Wars series - just what it means to our society and culture - the New Age/Theosophy angle apparent to many people - the connection to the UN / New World Religion agenda - the Masonic / Illuminati cult tie-ins - and the Space/God UFO Brotherhood connections that I am attempting to explore in this thread.

I will post a number of links here and I hope you will check them out. I can't speak to the truthfulness of all the links, though I have read through them all and I have watched the videos. Some of the info/opinion is stunning - some was written years ago - some recently. But it will help, no doubt, to shed a little Light on some of the Magic.

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The Religious Affiliation of Director George Lucas
http://www.adherents.com/people/pl/George_Lucas.html (http://www.adherents.com/people/pl/George_Lucas.html)

"The Force wasn't mentioned in the script's first drafts. It first appeared in the Second Draft of January 1975, a year after Lucas started writing. People in early scripts occasionally say 'May the force be with you' instead of 'Good luck,' but what force is never mentioned. Lucas himself didn't begin expounding on the Force until well after the film's release. In 1977, he was still saying vaguely, 'The Force is really a way of seeing, it's a way of being with life.' All evidence suggests that the secret of Star Wars' extraordinary longevity and the fidelity of its following, indeed the basis of George Lucas's later near-guru status, was an afterthought.

It was the season of psychedelia, of dope, of gurus so wise they could change your life. Visitors to San Anselmo carried creeds with them like dust on their shoes. They pressed copies of Carlos Castaneda and Khalil Gibran into Lucas's hands, along with texts from the Hare Krishnas, the Scientologists, the Moonies, and fashionable sf novels, like Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land, about a charismatic sect whose adherents indulge in ritual cannibalism. Someone told him about The Hero with a Thousand Faces, by anthropologist Joseph Campbell, though apparently Lucas never read it, but heard some extracts on an audiotape in his ear. "

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The Sith Have Taken over the U.S.
by Doug Yurchey, May 27, 2005

http://www.illuminati-news.com/sith-takeover.htm (http://www.illuminati-news.com/sith-takeover.htm)

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Yoda, The Great Masonic Teacher

In FREEMASONRY, there is a High teacher called "Yoda."

http://warrman.blogspot.com/2006/05/yoda-great-masonic-teacher.html (http://warrman.blogspot.com/2006/05/yoda-great-masonic-teacher.html)

http://www.factology.com/20020629.htm (http://www.factology.com/20020629.htm)

http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/990528/force.shtml (http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/990528/force.shtml)

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Lucasfilms and the San Francisco Presidio Gang

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Star Wars joins United Religions at the Presidio

by Berit Kjos [1999]

        San Francisco’s spectacular army base was built to defend America. It has become an open door to forces that would destroy our freedom, sovereignty, and values.

The "Force" is with George Lucas. Literally. Trouncing his competitors, the master of movie magic won the coveted right to build his Star Wars empire on 23 acres of the Presidio, the former army base overlooking the Golden Gate bridge. Lucasfilm and Lucas Learning Ltd. will share this prize piece of San Francisco real estate with the Gorbachev Foundation, the Thoreau Center for Sustainability, FEMA, the United Religions Initiative (URI), the United Nations Resource Center, and a host of other environmental, spiritual, educational, and governmental organizations.1  Together they share a common crusade: to build a unified, earth-friendly global civilization based on "new" universal beliefs and values.

While Christianity clashes, the "Force" fits well. Some might even compare the Presidio’s elite guardians of the planet with the heroic Jedi of the Star Wars galaxy. In Lucasfilm’s popular children’s book, I Am a Jedi, Qui-Gon Jinn (Liam Neeson) tells us in his own words, "The Jedi are a very special group of beings. For many thousands of years, we have worked to promote peace and justice in the universe."

Noble words! The last part could be spoken by any UN or UR visionary. The Star Wars ideal could well be the Presidio vision on a cosmic scale.

The spiritual part fits as well. "We draw our strength from a mysterious power called the Force," continues the Jedi Knight. This Force is a "form of energy that connects all living things. We Jedi learn to be sensitive to the Force. It is a source of great strength."

George Lucas will surely add strength to the entire Presidio project. His universal power source provides a perfect model for the new global spirituality needed as a foundation for the planetary oneness. His Digital Arts Center with its out-of-this-world technology can make mind-changing fantasies seem more real than reality. His proposal for commercial development of the land will help make the Presidio self-sufficient. And his Lucas Learning Ltd. will communicate his politically correct message through schools, video games, and computers everywhere.

THE PRESIDIO VISION. The Presidio Alliance plans to turn the old army base into "a global center for sustainability." It's goals include "forums for dialogue" and "education programs and workshops on sustainability." If you wonder what that last word means, it's not simply "to meet the needs of the present, without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their needs." To insiders, it means the 3 E's: Environment, Economy, and Equity: using the environmental crisis as the excuse needed to persuade the masses to conform to the new global values and the redistribution of resources (new economy) in order to establish social equality."

MORE: http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/starwar6-99.html (http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/starwar6-99.html)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/20/movies/20pres.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/20/movies/20pres.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)

http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/06-may/o36lucas.html (http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/06-may/o36lucas.html)

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The Nancy Pelosi / Presidio Connection:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/ans-cover-news111506.htm (http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/ans-cover-news111506.htm)

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The UN / United Religions Initiative / Gorbachev Foundation: NEW WORLD RELIGION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guUKh7GuTVg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guUKh7GuTVg&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnMUT9ZyhiQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnMUT9ZyhiQ&feature=related)

http://www.ifg.org/ (http://www.ifg.org/)

http://astro.temple.edu/~dialogue/geth.htm (http://astro.temple.edu/~dialogue/geth.htm)

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-Gorbachev-PresidiumtoPresidio.htm (http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-Gorbachev-PresidiumtoPresidio.htm)

http://www.uri.org/ (http://www.uri.org/)

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~~~ And Finally: What makes the light: Star Wars Unveiled ~~~

http://www.truveo.com/What-makes-the-lightStar-Wars-Unveiled-18/id/63868532 (http://www.truveo.com/What-makes-the-lightStar-Wars-Unveiled-18/id/63868532)

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on October 29, 2008, 01:15:37 am
~~~ And Finally: What makes the light: Star Wars Unveiled ~~~

http://www.truveo.com/What-makes-the-lightStar-Wars-Unveiled-18/id/63868532 (http://www.truveo.com/What-makes-the-lightStar-Wars-Unveiled-18/id/63868532)

Oh thanks! That's my work :)

Here's the latest version of that series
What makes the light: Final Edition http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 29, 2008, 07:37:03 am
GoingEtheric:

You did that video man???  That is one piece of great work. Very insightful and right on the money. It must have taken forever to research and produce that. I will watch the updated version today.

It is amazing how intertwined the media/Hollywood product is - and how much  New Age religion is "embedded". I'm learning a lot just doing this little bit of work on this comic series.

Thank you - I am humbled.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on October 29, 2008, 01:47:45 pm
Oh thanks! That's my work :)

Here's the latest version of that series
What makes the light: Final Edition http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4)
Yeah Star Wars unveiled is mine. As for research, I pretty much had to watch all 6 star wars like 5 times. Glad you appreciate it, cause I STILL get messages to my youTube account detailing what a dumbass I am :)

Star Wars isn't alone anymore, since Star Wars Unveiled, the latest "The man who would be king" illuminist offenders are: The Simpsons, the matrix, harry potter, The road to el dorado ( The most shameless retelling you've ever seen ), and stargate.

I'm learning a lot on this thread too. Your posts above were good. That's why I keep coming back. I happen to know that most comic book writers are insiders as well. I think Hollywood is like any other sector of the Illuminati, in that they must tell us the truth on some level.

Yes, it is amazing how much of Hollywood is in on it.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on October 29, 2008, 03:09:11 pm
great work GoingEtheric, and I agree this thread is top class from beginning to end
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on October 29, 2008, 04:00:22 pm
great work GoingEtheric, and I agree this thread is top class from beginning to end
thank ;)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 30, 2008, 11:40:14 am


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From 1987: .... well, are we?

~~ O ~~   The 1980s: COMMUNION with the FORCE   ~~ O ~~


Ronald Reagan

http://www.presidentialufo.com/reagan_ufo_story.htm (http://www.presidentialufo.com/reagan_ufo_story.htm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Bz6Dkl84k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Bz6Dkl84k)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KvC_NDlHoI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KvC_NDlHoI&feature=related)

~~~~~~~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~~~~~

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1981 Book cover:  http://standeyo.com/Our_Books/Cosmic_Conspiracy.html (http://standeyo.com/Our_Books/Cosmic_Conspiracy.html)


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1980: The Twin Towers are in their sights.


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1980: About a decade before David Icke's first books appeared.


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1981: http://www.alternativkanalen.com/rune/janos2a.html (http://www.alternativkanalen.com/rune/janos2a.html)


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1981: Pop~Psych.

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1982: Our old friend, still battling those pesky aliens!


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1984: George Orwell anyone? More Synchronicity?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(science_fiction) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(science_fiction))


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1985: More reptoid aliens on the "V" series.


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1987: Whitley Strieber's #1 Bestseller.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_(book) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_(book))
http://www.beyondcommunion.com/communion/870305sfe.html (http://www.beyondcommunion.com/communion/870305sfe.html)
unknowncountry.com (http://unknowncountry.com)


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1988: Comic-book knock~off of the cattle mutilation phenomenon.

~~~~~
Linda Moulton-Howe
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/shadowlands/6583/cattle019.html (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/shadowlands/6583/cattle019.html)
earthfiles.com (http://earthfiles.com)
~~~~~


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1988: John Lennon's Close Encounter ...


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1989: Atlantis Space Brotherhood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Atlantis_(documentary)#Part_
One:_Dawn_of_the_Gods_.28ISBN_3-931695-11-5_.26_
ISBN_10:__0701113324.29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Atlantis_(documentary)#Part_
One:_Dawn_of_the_Gods_.28ISBN_3-931695-11-5_.26_
ISBN_10:__0701113324.29)

The video: (http://The video:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSAGv4kUgk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSAGv4kUgk)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/index.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/index.htm)


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1989: Covering the Majestic Documents - back in the day.

majesticdocuments.com (http://majesticdocuments.com)

~~~~~ O ~~~~

THE RAPTURE ~~~ BLUEBEAM Style:

Only Those Who Prepare Themselves, Can Be Evacuated Into Places Of Refuge...

The information I am sharing here will be very instrumental in helping us to understand much more about this concept termed "The Rapture". According to this information, this concept is an option that can be used during an emergency evacuation operation where time has run out, and it cannot be done any other way(verses a mass landing).

In that case, the "Ashtar Command" under the commission of the "Galactic Federation Of Light" has the technology to beam-up people by the millions within 15 minutes of being alerted of a disaster. The technology they can use is called "Levitation Beam Technology".

This information was released to the public back in the 1980's, and it was their plan at that time to use this procedure as part of their main plan of evacuation. Apparently, these plans have changed since then. And the main plan now is to orchestrate a mass landing with the cooperation of governments all over the world, socialize with earth humans and directly get involved over several months with helping us make the smooth transition of being evacuated(by walking on the craft) and living among them in a new civilization until the earth changing disasters are finished.

At that time, we will be brought back to live on the surface again. This whole thing is like a massive chess game between the Light & the Dark forces that are fighting over the souls of mankind. When one side makes a move, the other one has to match it. All plans have to be fluid, with contingency plans put in place. But the satans will lose this war and be destroyed.

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They are many but they are one in wickedness, just like God and his sons & daughters on this planet and from other worlds are one in righteousness. Although their plan at this time is to orchestrate a mass landing, they may have to revert back to their original plan. We will be aware of both plans, they may have to use both of them according to what is happening in different parts of the planet. Time is a main factor. All of this has to be accomplished before all the disasters begin to fall on the earth at the same time. Those who are fearful & spiritually unfit because they have not prepared themselves with the truth, cannot be evacuated. You must be sealed by the truth you have learned to live in the endtimes.

MORE HERE:  http://josephalmighty.multiply.com/journal/item/283 (http://josephalmighty.multiply.com/journal/item/283)

~~~~~ O ~~~~~


Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: EthanAllen_TruthNet Radio on October 30, 2008, 11:59:00 am
An article I wrote a few months ago.

http://intelstrike.com/?p=202 (http://intelstrike.com/?p=202)

Marvel Comics: Vehicle For The New World Order
By: Ethan Allen - 14 February, 2008
Captain America is dead. True American patriotism is out, globalism is in. Changes in Marvel Comics superhero archetypes now suggest a turn away from truth, justice and the American way, and a move towards environmentalism, multi-cultural propaganda, and globalist agendas.Marvel Comics has now joined forces with the United Nations, both in order to polish its image, and to introduce more globalist imagery and ideas into the public conscience.

“In a move reminiscent of storylines developed during the second world war, the UN is joining forces with Marvel Comics, creators of Spider-Man and the Incredible Hulk, to create a comic book showing the international body working with superheroes to solve bloody conflicts and rid the world of disease. The comic, initially to be distributed free to one million US schoolchildren, will be set in a war-torn fictional country and feature superheroes such as Spider-Man working with UN agencies such as Unicef and the “blue hats”, the UN peacekeepers.”

Marvel Comics was once run by Stan Lee, and Stan Lee is has his own ties with behind the scenes political dealings. During Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senatorial run, Stan Lee’s company, Stan Lee Media, was tied in a campaign finance scandal with Stan Lee’s friend, Peter Paul. Here’s a clip from 2005 where Stan Lee denies putting money into Clinton’s coffers.

Another example of politics intruding into the world of superheroes is a well known story of how the U.S. Department of Health approached Marvel Comics in 1971 to do a PSA-style issue of a Spiderman comic where Spiderman warns kids about drug abuse.

Whatever Lee’s intentions on who gets elected, certainly his media enterprises such as Stan Lee media and Marvel Comics are being influenced by politics, current events, and the globalist agenda.

Dozens of action figure lines, comic books, and movie franchises popular with kids are being changed over from fighting generic bad guys and defending American values to fighting for the blue helmeted thugs of the United Nations. In fact, the popular 80s cartoon G.I.Joe has now been retrofitted with an intro, erasing the ‘All American Hero’ title with ‘International Hero’. The globalists know that media can be a powerful tool in changing hearts and minds, and the hearts and minds of our children are now in the crosshairs of genocidal madmen and power hungry tyrants.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 30, 2008, 04:43:34 pm
ETHANALLEN:

Very nice article ... well written. And I had forgotten all about that Stan Lee episode with the Clintons! I'm finding all sorts of propaganda in Comics and pulp ... TPTB certainly latched onto the genre as a perfect doorway into young (and not so young) minds. Comics lend a framework of irresistible imagery to their favorite NWO dis-info themes.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on November 01, 2008, 09:20:58 pm
Check it out.

http://www.rense.com/general83/911sc.htm

The pic used in the article is from my copy of Marvel Two-In-One #100! I can tell from the crooked angle of the towers. It was originally posted in this thread a couple of pages back. I guess this information can go viral!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on November 02, 2008, 01:45:36 pm
Reptilians for Obama.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: starchildtesla on November 08, 2008, 02:10:47 am
Notice this picture .See the terrorsit passport ? Is That a pyramid with eye? And is that a Pentagon on the left?whats underneath?
does anyone have a source for this photo?

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 10, 2008, 01:20:11 pm



~ O ~   1 9 9 0 s: M I L L E N N I U M  F E V E R   ~ O ~

Continuing now with my look at UFO Mythology & Imagery (in Comics and Pop Culture 'pulp') and it's morphing into NWO, Theosophical and Bluebeam Propaganda. I began with the first decades of the twentieth century here, http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=23030.200 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=23030.200), and we have moved decade-by-decade, with book cover art, commentary and lots of links that I hope you check out.

~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~

President George H. W. Bush made his famous New World Order speech before the United Nations on the propitious date of September 11, 1990 - a fitting way to start the decade I would say. The crash of the Soviet Union was just behind us ... personal computers were becoming commonplace and the INTERNET was starting to take over the world. Crop Circles. We saw DESERT STORM on TV, sort of ... went ga-ga over the man from Hope ... and heard ALL about that blue dress.

We felt in our bones that Armageddon was just around the corner. The Messiah (name one) was due to descend from the clouds and land on the Temple Mount any day now! We were bombarded constantly with high-tech propaganda and brain-washing ... and hardly anyone was conscious of it. We sat in front of our Science Fiction-saturated TVs and the Mall Big Screens, dumbed-down and dumbfounded ... we plugged into the Hollywood Myth Machine ... we reveled in our decadence and participated, like benumbed teenaged gamers, in the Illuminati Video Game Wars for profit.

It was brain dead Millennium Fever at Y2K.

~~~~~~~~~  ~O~  ~O~ ~~~~~~~~~~

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1991: Alien Nation ... that about says it all.


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1991: Huumm ... we'll leave Rock 'n Roll and UFOs for another day.


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1992: More Unidentified Flying Reptiles rippin' the hell outa Metropolis!


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1993: New Age Theosophy rag ... Project World Evacuation ... mass EXODUS by Y2K.


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1993: Remember this show? Lotsa Alien Nation programming. Ready for that Quantum Leap?


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1995: Paperback cover ... Aliens, the Final Solution Answer.


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1995: More of those pesky triangles ...


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1995: New Age Theosophical bullsh*t paperback - from two of the leaders.

http://digitalseance.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/secret-of-the-andes-george-hunt-williamson/ (http://digitalseance.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/secret-of-the-andes-george-hunt-williamson/)
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Lucis_Trust.htm (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Lucis_Trust.htm)


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1996: Comic cover ... the Grey Alien God holds the Earth in his hands.


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1996: I'll let this comic cover represent the truckload of ROSWELL programming.


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1997:  Aliens, babes and skyscrapers getting zapped.


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1998:  Ground Zero ... messiah figure ... UFOs ... RUN!


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1998:  The DARK KNIGHT is getting abducted ... isn't everybody?


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1998: More conspiracies and attacks on DC. From SCHOLASTIC, the Harry Potter people.

http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_hqdbh2 (http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_hqdbh2)
http://notquitecrunchyparent.blogspot.com/2007/11/making-sense-of-scholastic-books-that.html (http://notquitecrunchyparent.blogspot.com/2007/11/making-sense-of-scholastic-books-that.html)
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/495875/ion_media_networks_scholastic_nbc_universal_
corus_entertainment_and_classic/ (http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/495875/ion_media_networks_scholastic_nbc_universal_
corus_entertainment_and_classic/)


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1998: Paperback cover ... Bluebeam-style RAPTURE ... from Edgar Rothschild Fouche.

http://www.whale.to/b/fouche.html (http://www.whale.to/b/fouche.html)
http://altered-state.com/index2.htm?/neurosync/ (http://altered-state.com/index2.htm?/neurosync/)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_extraterrestrialtech06.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_extraterrestrialtech06.htm)


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1999: Turn-of-the-Millennium UFO Apocalypse.

http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/fall98/apocalypse.htm (http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/fall98/apocalypse.htm)

~~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~~



Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on November 15, 2008, 10:08:24 pm
I just posted an article on Marvel Two In One #100 on my blog, with some extended story and pics.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/11/marvel-two-in-one-100-wtc-ruins-taken.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on November 16, 2008, 07:03:54 am
I just posted an article on Marvel Two In One #100 on my blog, with some extended story and pics.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/11/marvel-two-in-one-100-wtc-ruins-taken.html

very interesting stuff, I suspect also that all these stories relating to serums changing people into 'things' or 'hulks' are conditioning for their transhumanist agenda which will at first come in the form of extreme drugs and genetic treatments to alter a person's vision & stamina improvements, kill without conscience, memory enhancers etc etc

then they will move onto genetically designed babies, bred for a specific purpose
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 16, 2008, 04:06:29 pm

~ O ~ The WAR of the WORLDS ~ O ~

I would like to take a look now at English author H. G. Wells 1866-1946, generally considered the Grandfather of Science Fiction ... and in particular his timeless classic The War of the Worlds. Please do read some of his bio here linked, as you will find that he could very well be called the Grandfather of the New World Order as well.

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http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/ (http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/)
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/hgwells.htm (http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/hgwells.htm)

http://watch.pair.com/roundtable.html (http://watch.pair.com/roundtable.html)

The Round Table

excerpt:
"Upon his appointment by Rothschild to chair Rhodes's secret society, Milner recruited a group of young men from Oxford and Tonybee Hall to assist him in organizing his administration of the new society. All were respected English Freemasons. Among them were Rudyard Kipling, Arthur Balfour, Lord Rothschild, and some Oxford College graduates known as "Milner's Kindergarten." In 1909, Milner's Kindergarten, with some other English Masons, founded the Round Table. The grandfather of all modern British Masonic "think tanks" was born.

Three powerful think tank offshoots of the Round Table are (1) the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA), organized in 1919 in London; (2) the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), organized in 1921 in New York City; and (3) the Institute of Pacific Relations (IPR), organized in 1925 or the twelve countries holding territory in what today we call the Pacific Rim.

The initial assignment of the Round Table was not necessarily to destroy the political experiments of French Freemasonry, such as socialism and communism, but to cooperate with them for the advancement of the English Masonic conspiracy.

Some seven years before the organization of the Round Table, of which H.G. Wells would be a founding member, Wells explained the strategy by which aristocratic English Freemasonry would reach its goal of world dominion. He called it an "Open Conspiracy" as opposed to French Freemasonry's closed or secret conspiracy.

"The Open Conspiracy will appear first, I believe, as a conscious organization of intelligent and quite possibly in some cases wealthy men, as a movement having distinct social and political aims . . ."

H.G. Wells, previously a member of the socialist Fabian Society of England, was, according to the MacKenzies' history of The Fabians, "branching out into speculations about a new social order..." An elite group of Twelve Wise Men, which included [Bertrand] Russell and Wells, were selected as the "Co-Efficients" who met to discuss and formulate, "Ideas about racial improvement by selecting out the efficient...and [George Bernard] Shaw was working on these 'eugenic' notions in his new play Man and Superman. [Fabian and Co-Efficients co-founder] Beatrice Webb called it 'the most important of all questions, the breeding of the right sort of man..."

~~~~~ O ~~~~~

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm)

Fiction as a Precursor to Fact:
Sci-fi "Predictive Programming" and the Emergent World Religion


excerpt:
"Thus, 'science fiction' is a means of conditioning the masses to accept future visions that the elite wish to tangibly enact. This process of gradual and subtle inculcation is dubbed "predictive programming." Hoffman elaborates: "Predictive programming works by means of the propagation of the illusion of an infallibly accurate vision of how the world is going to look in the future" (205). Also dubbed "sci-fi inevitabilism" by Hoffman, predictive programming is analogous to a virus that infects its hosts with the false belief that it is:

*Useless to resist central, establishment control.
*Or it posits a counter-cultural alternative to such control which is actually a counterfeit, covertly emanating from the establishment itself.
*That the blackening (pollution) of earth is as unavoidable as entropy.
*That extinction ('evolution") of the species is inevitable.
*That the reinhabitation of the earth by the "old gods" (Genesis 6:4), is our stellar scientific destiny. (8)

Memes (contagious ideas) are instilled through the circulation of "mass appeal" documents under the guise of "science fiction" literature. Once subsumed on a psychocognitive level, these memes become self-fulfilling prophecies, embraced by the masses and outwardly approximated through the efforts of the elite.

In addition to spreading virulent strains of thought, sci-fi has also been instrumental in the promulgation of Darwinism. For instance, the sci-fi literature of Freemason H.G. Wells would play an important role in promulgating the concept of evolution. J.P. Vernier reveals Wells' religious adherence to the concept of evolution and its inspiration on him as an author of science fiction:

“The impact of the theory of evolution on his [Wells'] mind is well known: it was first felt when he attended the Lectures of T.H. Huxley, at South Kensington, in 1884 and 1885, and, ten years later, evolution was to provide him with the fundamental theme of his "scientific romances" and of many of his short stories.”

- "Evolution as a Literary Theme in H.G. Wells's Science Fiction,"

~~~~~ O ~~~~~

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The Young Herbert George Wells at the Turn-of-the-Century

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1898 - Original illustration from the First Edition

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1899 - Cover illustration from a very early edition.

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1906 - Striking fear into the hearts of the stunned Victorian masses.

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1913 - The imagery by now was pretty well established - featuring the horrific Tri-Pod Invaders.

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1927 - fellow Theosopher/Publisher Hugo Gernback pushes Wells and Huxley.

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1938 - Orson Welles (no relation) and the Radio Broadcast that proved to TPTB that an ET invasion, real or imagined, would send the people into contortions of fear.

http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/index.html (http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/index.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds)

The Technologies "prophesied" in The War of the Worlds
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/AuthorSpecNewsList.asp?BkNum=141 (http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/AuthorSpecNewsList.asp?BkNum=141)

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1955 - The imagery advances a step, with the invaders attacking 20th C soldier boys.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/WarOfTheWorlds1964.jpg)
1964 - Paperback cover: total destruction.

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1973 - Hey Martian! You wanna piece o' me!

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1999 - SUPERMAN battling pretty much the same dudes from 1899!

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2002 - The Tri-Pods on steroids, blowing up the ever-present NY skyscrapers.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/war_worlds_spielberg_2005.jpg)
2005 - Advert for the SPIELBERG remake, with Tom Cruise.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/2008War_of_the_Worlds.jpg)
2008 - Advertisement for the current movie - THE INVASION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!

http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2008/03/war_of_the_worlds_2_by_c_thoma.html (http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2008/03/war_of_the_worlds_2_by_c_thoma.html)

~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~

More great images here:
http://drzeus.best.vwh.net/wotw/ (http://drzeus.best.vwh.net/wotw/)


Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on November 16, 2008, 06:56:27 pm
I know he often called for a new world order, but I've recently read "the Time Machine", and I must say that he was a very good writer.

The Orson Wells broadcast was very important to the controllers, it showed them the power of mass media.

He was portrayed in the film "Time After Time", where he chased Jack the Ripper to 1979 in a time machine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_(1979_film)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on November 16, 2008, 08:10:07 pm
FORD:

Yes, he was a fantastic writer. I read War of the Worlds, Invisible Man, Time Machine ... and probably others ... way back when. And I never even was aware of his non-fiction political/ Utopian titles until I heard AJ talking about it one day. The Time Machine was remade in 2002 - here's a write up about that movie. I didn't see it - but I've seen the original many times.

We just have to remember that much of the "sci-fi" that we have grown up with has ulterior motives - and there is no good way to guard against it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-489653/Human-race-split-different-species.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-489653/Human-race-split-different-species.html)

Human race will 'split into two different species'
By NIALL FIRTH
Last updated at 16:18 26 October 2007

The human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist. 100,000 years into the future, sexual selection could mean that two distinct breeds of human will have developed.

The alarming prediction comes from evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry from the London School of Economics, who says that the human race will have reached its physical peak by the year 3000. The report claims that after they reach their peak around the year 3000 humans will begin to regress.
These humans will be between 6ft and 7ft tall and they will live up to 120 years.

"Physical features will be driven by indicators of health, youth and fertility that men and women have evolved to look for in potential mates," says the report, which suggests that advances in cosmetic surgery and other body modifying techniques will effectively homogenise our appearance.
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The ELOI - advanced EUGENICS man - from the 2002 movie.

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Men will have symmetrical facial features, deeper voices and bigger penises, according to Curry in a report commissioned for men's satellite TV channel Bravo.Women will all have glossy hair, smooth hairless skin, large eyes and pert breasts, according to Curry. Racial differences will be a thing of the past as interbreeding produces a single coffee-coloured skin tone.

The future for our descendants isn't all long life, perfect bodies and chiselled features, however. While humans will reach their peak in 1000 years' time, 10,000 years later our reliance on technology will have begun to dramatically change our appearance. Medicine will weaken our immune system and we will begin to appear more child-like.

Dr Curry said: "The report suggests that the future of man will be a story of the good, the bad and the ugly. While science and technology have the potential to create an ideal habitat for humanity over the next millennium, there is the possibility of a monumental genetic hangover over the subsequent millennia due to an over-reliance on technology reducing our natural capacity to resist disease, or our evolved ability to get along with each other.

"After that, things could get ugly, with the possible emergence of genetic 'haves' and 'have-nots'."

Dr Curry's theory may strike a chord with readers who have read H G Wells' classic novel The Time Machine, in particular his descriptions of the Eloi and the Morlock races. In the 1895 book, the human race has evolved into two distinct species, the highly intelligent and wealthy Eloi and the frightening, animalistic Morlock who are destined to work underground to keep the Eloi happy.

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The frightening, animalistic Morlock as seen in the 1960 film version of the classic book - along with the blond / blue-eyed Eloi girl.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on November 28, 2008, 02:51:48 pm
I've talked about Justice League of America #40 in this thread before. I've just finished a more in depth analysis, with more pictures.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/11/despero-why-dont-you-come-to-your.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on November 30, 2008, 08:32:43 am
In Justice League #40, published in 1990, there is a panel which shows the WTC being destroyed. This is the back cover of that issue.

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http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/11/despero-why-dont-you-come-to-your.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on December 08, 2008, 03:39:28 pm
Took the best ones [comics] from this thread, dated them, and made a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiKJaSDnjU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiKJaSDnjU)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Brocke on December 08, 2008, 07:00:00 pm
Polygraph Tests, The "Feminist Agenda" and Wonder Woman

What do Polygraph Tests, The Feminist Agenda and Wonder Woman have in common? Answer, William Moulton Marston.

William Moulton Marston had a part in the creation of all three. As well as being a teacher at the American University in Washington D.C. and Tufts University, Marston was also creator of the systolic blood-pressure test and Director of Public Services at Universal Studios and co-creator of the comic book character Wonder Woman. He was indeed a strange and fascinating man. Well worth the attention of anyone researching the NWO. His connection to Margaret Sanger is that he and his wife lived in a "polyamorous relationship" with Sanger's niece Olive Byrne Richard.




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Dr. William Moulton Marston (May 9, 1893 – May 2, 1947) was an American psychologist, feminist theorist, inventor, and comic book author who created the character Wonder Woman. Two women, his wife Elizabeth Holloway Marston and Olive Byrne, (who lived with the couple in a polyamorous relationship), served as exemplars for the character and greatly influenced her creation.[1][2]

He was inducted into the Comic Book Hall of Fame in 2006.

Early life and career

Born in Saugus, Massachusetts, William Marston was educated at Harvard University, receiving his B.A. in 1915, an L.L.B. in 1918, and a Ph.D. in Psychology in 1921. After teaching at American University in Washington D.C. and Tufts University in Medford MA, Marston traveled to Universal Studios in California in 1929, where he spent a year as Director of Public Services.

Psychologist and inventor

Marston is credited as the creator of the systolic blood-pressure test used in an attempt to detect deception, which became one component of the modern polygraph. According to their son, Marston's wife, Elizabeth Holloway Marston, was also involved in the development of the systolic blood-pressure test: "According to Marston’s son, it was his mother Elizabeth, Marston’s wife, who suggested to him that 'When she got mad or excited, her blood pressure seemed to climb' (Lamb, 2001). Although Elizabeth is not listed as Marston’s collaborator in his early work, Lamb, Matte (1996), and others refer directly and indirectly to Elizabeth’s work on her husband’s deception research. She also appears in a picture taken in his polygraph laboratory in the 1920s (reproduced in Marston, 1938)."[3][4] This would be the basis for Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth.

From this work, Marston had been convinced that women were more honest and reliable than men, and could work faster and more accurately. During his lifetime, Marston championed the causes of women of the day.

Marston was also a writer of essays in popular psychology.

In 1928 he published Emotions of Normal People, which elaborated the DISC Theory. Marston viewed people behaving along two axes, with their attention being either passive or active, depending on the individual's perception of his or her environment as either favourable or antagonistic. By placing the axes at right angles, four quadrants form with each describing a behavioral pattern:

    * Dominance produces activity in an antagonistic environment
    * Inducement produces activity in a favourable environment
    * Steadiness produces passivity in a favourable environment
    * Compliance produces passivity in an antagonistic environment.

Marston posited that there is a male notion of freedom that is inherently anarchic and violent, and an opposing female notion based on "Love Allure" that leads to an ideal state of submission to loving authority.

Wonder Woman

Creation

In an October 25, 1940, interview conducted by former student Olive Byrne (under the pseudonym 'Olive Richard') and published in Family Circle, titled "Don't Laugh at the Comics", Marston described what he saw as the great educational potential of comic books (a follow up article was published two years later in 1942.[5]) This article caught the attention of comics publisher Max Gaines, who hired Marston as an educational consultant for National Periodicals and All-American Publications, two of the companies that would merge to form the future DC Comics.

In the early 1940s the DC line was dominated by superpowered male characters such as the Green Lantern, Batman, and its flagship character, Superman. According to the Fall 2001 issue of the Boston University alumni magazine, it was his wife Elizabeth's idea to create a female superhero:
“William Moulton Marston, a psychologist already famous for inventing the polygraph (forerunner to the magic lasso), struck upon an idea for a new kind of superhero, one who would triumph not with fists or firepower, but with love. 'Fine,' said Elizabeth. 'But make her a woman.'”

Marston introduced the idea to Max Gaines, cofounder (along with Jack Liebowitz) of All-American Publications. Given the go-ahead, Marston developed Wonder Woman with Elizabeth (whom Marston believed to be a model of that era's unconventional, liberated woman). In creating Wonder Woman, Marston was also inspired by Olive Byrne, who lived with the couple in a polygamous/polyamorous relationship. Marston's pseudonym, Charles Moulton, combined his own and Gaines' middle names.

In a 1943 issue of The American Scholar, Marston wrote:
“Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women's strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman.”

Development

Marston used a pen name that combined his middle name with that of Gaines to create Charles Moulton. Marston intended his character, which he called "Suprema", to be "tender, submissive, peaceloving as good women are," combining "all the strength of a Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman." His character was a native of an all-female utopia who became a crime-fighting U.S. government agent, using her superhuman strength and agility, and her ability to force villains to tell the truth by binding them with her magic lasso. Her appearance, including her heavy silver bracelets (which she used to deflect bullets), was based somewhat on Olive Byrne.

Editor Sheldon Mayer replaced the name "Suprema" with "Wonder Woman", and the character made her debut in All Star Comics #8 (December 1941). The character next appeared in Sensation Comics #1 (January 1942), and six months later, Wonder Woman #1 debuted. Except for four months in 2006, the series has been in print ever since, and now appears bi-monthly. The stories were initially written by Marston and illustrated by newspaper artist Harry Peter. During his life Marston had written many articles and books on psychological topics, but his last six years of writing were devoted to his comics creation.

William Moulton Marston died of cancer on May 2, 1947 in Rye, New York. After his death, Elizabeth and Olive continued to live together until Olive's death in the late 1980s; Elizabeth died in 1993, aged 100.

Themes

Marston's Wonder Woman is often cited as an early example of bondage themes entering popular culture: physical submission appears again and again throughout Marston's comics work, with Wonder Woman and her criminal opponents frequently being tied up or otherwise restrained, and her Amazonian friends engaging in frequent wrestling and bondage play (possibly based on Marston's earlier research studies on sorority initiations). These elements were softened by later writers of the series. Though Marston had described female nature as submissive, in his other writings and interviews he referred to submission to women as a noble and potentially world-saving practice, leading ideally to the establishment of a matriarchy, and did not shy away from the sexual implications of this:

"The only hope for peace is to teach people who are full of pep and unbound force to enjoy being bound ... Only when the control of self by others is more pleasant than the unbound assertion of self in human relationships can we hope for a stable, peaceful human society. ... Giving to others, being controlled by them, submitting to other people cannot possibly be enjoyable without a strong erotic element".

About male readers, he later wrote: "Give them an alluring woman stronger than themselves to submit to, and they'll be proud to become her willing slaves!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 09, 2008, 01:47:22 pm
GoingEtheric:

Loved that new video ... and again, thank you immensely for What Makes the Light ~ http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4). Great work!

BROCKE:

I had no idea about this Marston character - we need to keep digging to unmask our programmers.


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2008 - Dang! I missed the ABDUCTION FESTIVAL with the Alien Birthing Room! The kids would haved LOVED that!

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d05_1189981607 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d05_1189981607)



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N I N E  O N E  O N E  and  B E Y O N D

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Y2K - UFOs and NATIONAL SECURITY ...


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Beam me up, Scotty - from 2000.


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Our NWO friends from PopMech, muddying the waters - WTF is REAL??


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2000 - America's favorite caped crusader, at AREA 51?


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2000 - The RAELIAN nut cases go mainstream - ET CLONING??


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From 2003 - the new RELIGION.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Aqhdas-u1UgC&dq=
ufo+religions+christopher+partridge&pg=PP1&ots=RFr6EfuBNj&source=bn&sig=
0ACPENW8O6lRD2V7cEOk-ANeyUQ&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=
result#PPR9,M1 (http://books.google.com/books?id=Aqhdas-u1UgC&dq=
ufo+religions+christopher+partridge&pg=PP1&ots=RFr6EfuBNj&source=bn&sig=
0ACPENW8O6lRD2V7cEOk-ANeyUQ&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=
result#PPR9,M1)

http://www.powells.com/biblio/62-9780415263245-1 (http://www.powells.com/biblio/62-9780415263245-1)


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2003 - Superdude STILL protecting America from the ALIENS!


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2004 - More Ancient Alien Gods.

http://www.fsr.org.uk/fsrintroduction.html (http://www.fsr.org.uk/fsrintroduction.html)


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2007 - Sixty years and counting.


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2008 - OK ... the present. Two covers from the Harryhausen series of comics.

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2008 - Weapons of Mass Destruction!

http://www.scifistation.com/harryhausen/harryhausen.html (http://www.scifistation.com/harryhausen/harryhausen.html)


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2008 - Corporate TV RELIGION. Check it out!

http://www.history.com/minisites/ufohunters (http://www.history.com/minisites/ufohunters)


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2008 - the "State of the ART" - is this reality?? No? Then what?


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2008 - This image is burned into our collective consciousness.
Are we about to see a 'real' version on the 10 o'clock news?


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2008 - DRAFTED into the fight against the ALIENS. One World. One People. One Purpose.

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on December 13, 2008, 08:05:32 pm
Took the best ones [comics] from this thread, dated them, and made a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiKJaSDnjU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiKJaSDnjU)

Good Work! I am featuring your video on my blog.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: criticalunity on December 13, 2008, 08:27:25 pm
(Not sure if I can swear here as in on Youtube, so I wont ;) (why the heck is that like that anyways)? A: To create maintain a dirty culture.

Just want to say: WHAT A GREAT THREAD!!!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on December 14, 2008, 02:32:54 am
Good Work! I am featuring your video on my blog.
coolness
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 26, 2008, 09:46:21 am

CIA, UFOs and Hollywood

Linda Moulton Howe is doing a series of articles/interviews which relate to what we have discussed here - the government/CIA SPOOK propaganda we see very plainly now in the ongoing history of POP CULTURE in the Western world. These links will take you to her site EARTHFILES and the first two installments.

© 2008 by Linda Moulton Howe

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1507&cateegory=Environment (http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1507&cateegory=Environment)


EXCERPT:

2007 Hollywood Transformers Made
with DOD Help - and ‘Special Access’?


“Their war, our world.”


Transformers, produced by Steven Spielberg,
and released July 2, 2007, in United States by DreamWorks,
Paramount and United International Pictures.

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The DOD played a huge role in that film, Transformers – unprecedented cooperation between the Department of Defense and the filmmakers. The Transformers film script, for anyone who watches carefully – although it appears on the surface as a big, dumb action film, which it is - but beyond that, there is very interesting dialogue and the script is loaded with Ufological references and insider intelligence terms. However, the terms ‘Area 51’ and ‘Roswell’ are conspicuously absent. The film subtly absolves American elected officials of complicity in what turns out to be a massive cover-up of the fact that the Earth has been visited by aliens.

Actually, what the film does more specifically is absolve the military. It absolves the Department of Defense and the Secretary of Defense of being involved in this decades-long cover-up and the fact we’ve been visited by aliens. The film pins the conspiracy instead on a quasi-governmental ‘Sector 7,’ as it is referred to, which for decades has been concealing its UFO investigations beneath what they term in the film amazingly as ‘Special Access Projects.’

THAT WOULD BE MJ-12, OR MAJESTIC 12.

Yes, ‘Special Access Project’ is a legitimate term. It is used in military intelligence circles and research indicates that in real life, UFO projects are concealed within what are known as Special Access Programs. So, it’s interesting that the Transformers film uses that terminology.

But what else is really important is there is very labored rhetoric in one of the scenes which absolves the Secretary of Defense and military of any kind of cover-up and they actually pin the responsibility on someone else. The Secretary of Defense officials say that cover-ups are going on without their knowledge and authorities are shocked and concerned that this has been happening and they raise the idea that UFOs could be a defense threat.

Non-Biological Extraterrestrials, NBEs

ROBBIE, HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE BOTTOM LINE IN TRANSFORMERS CONCERNING HOW THE NON-HUMAN AGENDAS ARE CHARACTERIZED?

That’s interesting in itself. There are two competing factions. They are alien robots, these transformers are robots in disguise. Throughout the film, they are referred to as ‘robots,’ but by the government, they are called ‘aliens.’ They are also more specifically referred to as ‘NBEs.’ NBEs in Transformers stands for ‘non-biological extraterrestrials.’ And in the film, they refer to one of the captured extraterrestrials as NBE1, which will ring a bell with many people familiar with the subject such as EBEs and EBE1 and EBE2. Those are the ‘extraterrestrial biological entities’ referred to in UFO literature and featured in the Majestic-12 documents. You know, it's very closely resembling what is supposed to be real.

MEANING EBE 1, EBE 2 AND WHO KNOWS HOW MANY MORE ENTITIES ALLEGEDLY RETRIEVED FROM CRASH SITES?

Yes. In Transformers, there are two factions: the good, savior transformer aliens who come here to protect humanity. And then there are the evil, destructive aliens who come to us to enslave humanity. The good ones are there to protect and the bad ones are there to destroy. So, it’s this inter-galactic war going on with Earth as the battleground.

That's very interesting politically. And all sorts of stuff could be read into it. All of this stuff lacks smoking gun evidence, but I think from a certain amount of research into it and taking into account documented history of cinematic propaganda, in America there is certainly the foundation for information ideas to be filtered into Hollywood cinema and into UFO films.


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http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1511&category=Environment (http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1511&category=Environment)

Part 2:  CIA, UFOs and Hollywood

© 2008 by Linda Moulton Howe

EXCERPT:

Propaganda Versus Honesty

AND BOILS DOWN TO PROPAGANDA.


Yes, it is propaganda in its most direct form. If something is done secretly and deliberately for a political end – particularly if designed to promote an institution – that is propaganda! But I wouldn’t like to say that the forces of dishonesty are winning against the forces of honesty.

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY TODAY AT THE END OF 2008 THAT BOTH THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT AND AMERICAN GOVERNMENT ARE NOW SHOWING THAT PROPAGANDA DOMINATES POLICY MORE THAN TRYING TO REPORT FACTUALLY TO THE PUBLIC?

I think powerful systems are always going to try to burnish their own image in whatever way they can. The truth really is irrelevant as far as government authorities are concerned because they want to maintain an image of success for their institutions and policies.

In any nation there has to be power exercised by a relatively small number of people. That’s the contract we have with our governments. We lend authority to governments hoping the small number of leaders will use that authority wisely for the people. But it’s quite another thing if the public allows that authority to get too strong and self-serving about burnishing its own image and using propaganda for the sake of its own power. That I think is really the crux of your question. There is a great difference between an authority that is legitimate versus power with power games, which are often not legitimate and should be challenged.

Having a more open government that does release files and does not use Hollywood movies to spread misinformation would be a much healthier and genuine democracy. But it seems to me that America is not a genuine democracy, not a full one anyway. It’s really a plutocracy run by corporations and a very powerful government with a lot of tax payer money at its disposal and misuses that power very often quite seriously. But there is still room for optimism because Americans and the British do reject extremism.”

    [ Editor’s Note:  Wikipedia - Plutocracy is rule by the wealthy, or power provided by wealth. In a plutocracy, the degree of economic inequality is high while the level of social mobility is low. A Plutocracy is a government controlled by a minuscule proportion of extremely wealthy individuals found in most societies. If there are no forms of control within the society, the plutocracy can easily collapse into a kleptocracy, ‘reign of thieves.’ Then the powerholders attempt to confiscate as much public funds as possible as their private property. A kleptocratic state is usually thoroughly corrupt, has very little production and its economy is unstable.”]

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The TRUTH is out there ... but where???


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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on December 26, 2008, 10:50:38 am
very thought provoking
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on December 27, 2008, 09:03:10 am
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/permalink/transformers_911/

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This image is alledgedly from a Transformers comic book published in 1991. The above link is the only reference I could find to it, and it was a small pic so I had to enlarge it. I don't have this particular comic, but I have seen enough to know the image is probably real.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Brocke on December 27, 2008, 02:04:18 pm
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Below is a Transformers cartoon with the WTC in it.

VIDEO
http://noolmusic.com/google_videos/transformers_predicts_the_destruction_of_the_twin_towers_in_1987.php

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on December 27, 2008, 06:43:34 pm
Holy crap! The upper left hand corner of the panel says it's 2001! Good find Brocke! From the clip.

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How many comic book images are there in this thread of the towers being destroyed? I beleive it's way to many to be a coincidence.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on December 28, 2008, 07:24:38 am
wooooaaaahhh, hardcore stuff
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Brocke on December 28, 2008, 12:39:26 pm
wooooaaaahhh, hardcore stuff

Yeah, this thread never ceases to amaze me!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 01, 2009, 01:24:11 pm

««« T H E  I L L U M I N A T I »»»


Let’s now take a look at the MASONIC and ILLUMINATI symbolism in pop culture - with emphasis on COMICS as relates to other media and the ongoing brain~washing (Re-Education?) of the public.

A good place to start might be here:

 http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=23030.240 

.... which is a previous post of mine on this thread that deals a bit with ROBERT ANTON WILSON (recently deceased) and his COSMIC TRIGGER / Illuminatus trilogy.

Another link here:  http://www.rawilson.com/trigger1.shtml

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For more general back ground on MASONIC reference in comics, etc, check out this pdf:

www.mof.org.au/publications/References_Popular_Culture.pdf

 ... more background on ILLUMINATUS - and other good links:

http://squaresallover.blogspot.com/

http://www.skepticfiles.org/cp002/masoni15.htm

http://rawremembered.blogspot.com/2007/02/kalamazoo-mi.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy)

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Here are a few images from the early ‘70s & ‘80s of the WILSON product:

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... and some imagery from the ‘updated’ MARVEL COMICS series:

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(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5194/652105normanandemmasupeep3.jpg)

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5314/652050illuminatingsuperaz1.jpg)

.... and the spinoff SECRET IVASION:

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6752/631833si8vsuperhb5.jpg)

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...... and now the HOLLYWOOD onslaught:


T H E  I L L U M I N A T I  ~  T H E  M O V I E


Sorbo to star in new franchise ‘The Illuminati’

By W. H. Bourne

HOLLYWOOD, CA (Hollywood Today) 11/11/08 – “I love this stuff,” says ‘The Illuminati: Out of Chaos Comes Order’ star Kevin Sorbo. “I’ve been doing action, fantasy, and sci-fi stuff all my life, but ‘Illuminati’ also has some great drama. People usually associate me as the good guy, but in this I get to be an anti-hero.”

Sorbo is best known for his work in ‘Hercules: The Legendary Journeys’ and ‘Andromeda’. As the 29th annual American Film Market winds down in Santa Monica, buyers and sellers offer mixed reviews of the market in the wake of the recent global economic down turn. Of course, if you have a hot product there’s no shortage of buyers.

Sorbo teams up with ‘Andromeda’ director David Winning. ‘Illuminati’ is being produced by Elizabeth Fowler of Clear Pictures Entertainment. “Liz brought me the project,” says Winning, “and the first person I thought of was Kevin”. Also cast for ‘Illuminati’ are Lance Henriksen and C. Thomas Howell.

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“The Illuminati really existed,” explains Fowler. “They were a secret society in Bavaria that was forced underground. There are those that believe they still secretly control world events.”

Conspiracy theories abound about the Illuminati. Former ‘Playboy’ editors Robert Anton Wilson and Bob Shea created the ‘Illuminatus! Trilogy’ based on the odd conspiracy letters sent to them while working at ‘Playboy’. Steven Jackson created both a role playing game and a trading card game based on ‘Illuminatus!’ and Eye N Apple Comics/Rip Off Press did a comic book adaptation of the material. But these projects shouldn’t be confused with Sorbo’s new project, ‘The Illuminati: Out of Chaos Comes Order’.

“Writer Mark Sevi has created a whole world and a new mythology,” says Fowler. “Instead of the distant future, it’s set in the present using current technology such as dragon skin armor and metal storm guns. ‘Illuminti’ is set in a world grounded in reality but uses artistic license.”

“The Council of 13 secretly controls the major segments of the world. And while this secret group of Illuminati are controlling the world, a secret faction inside the Illuminati are trying to influence them,” explains Sevi. Press materials pitch ‘Illuminati: Out of Chaos Comes Order’ as “A top assassin defects from the The Illuminati…and is now a free agent killing machine.”

“Tap into your dark side,” jokes Winning to Sorbo although Kevin doesn’t really need encouragement. “He’s a trained killer,” says Sorbo as he talks with excitement about his new role, “But I want to add more sarcasm to my character”.

Comic Con fans will be the first to get a good glimpse of ‘The Illuminati: Out of Chaos Comes Order’ when it releases as a comic book in San Diego in July of next year. “I’ve been trying to go to Comic Con for the past 15 years,” says Sorbo. “It’s great for me because every year they invite me and every year I get work that keeps me from going. But I’ll be there this coming year.”

“The movie was written as a franchise,” explains Fowler. “We’re hoping to release the film at the end of ‘09 or early 2010.” Tie-ins will also include toys and video games. “We’re also hoping to develop this into a TV series,” says Fowler.

‘The Illuminati’ is spreading it’s network of influence throughout the market at AFM. “We just introduced the project and we’ve had a phenomenal response. We’ve already sold territories,” says Fowler.

http://www.hollywoodtoday.net/2008/11/11/afm-ends-with-sorbo-illuminati/

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http://blog.movieset.com/2008/11/10/exclusive-first-look-at-the-illuminati-comic-book-and-movie-details-from-afm/

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on January 02, 2009, 11:36:29 am
quote of the day
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‘The Illuminati’ is spreading it’s network of influence throughout the market

certainly will be a movie we will all be talking about
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 02, 2009, 09:18:22 pm
(http://www.thefourthrail.com/images/reviews/091001/adventuresofsuperman596.jpg)

DC Makes Adventures of Superman #596 Returnable
One of Many Companies Pulling WTC/Terrorism References
Published: 09/17/2001
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/714.html

DC Comics announced today that the Adventures of Superman #596 would be returnable.  The issue shipped to stores last Wednesday, the day after the horrific attack on the twin towers of World Trade Center in New York City.  Due to an unfortunate coincidence the Superman comic features a scene in which Metropolis's twin LexCorp Towers have sustained damage due to events in the 'Our Worlds at War' storyline.

 
ICv2 talked to several midwestern retailers about the returnability of the Adventures of Superman #596, and they told us sales on the issue were brisk, and that they wouldn't have any to return.  One dealer was holding his two remaining copies for regular customers, rather than see them go to speculators.  Some may think the item will become a collector's item, but there was no significant action on the issue on eBay as of Monday afternoon.  Regardless, the retailers ICv2 talked with doubted whether many copies would be returned, though people on the East coast may feel differently about the book.

 
While the television networks can't resist showing the airliners crashing into the WTC towers over and over, the rest of the entertainment industry seems eager to spare the public anything that might remind them of last week's tragic occurrences.  The image of the twin towers has been airbrushed off Spidey's shades for the poster for the new Spider-Man film, and the studio is trying to suppress the teaser trailer, which shows Spidey nab a helicopter full of villains with a cable strung between the twin towers of the World Trade Center. The twin towers are also being excised from the Men in Black sequel, and the latest Arnold Schwarznegger shoot 'em up, blow' em up cinematic extravaganza has been postponed. Even a Jerry Stiller comedy film, Zoolander, will have the twin towers optically removed from location footage shot in New York.  The remake of The Time Machine, originally set for a December release, has been pushed back to February, reportedly because of a sequence in which an explosion on the moon sends a shower of meteors down on New York City.


I was able to find one of these issues, and I just did a big write up on it in my blog. I'll post some pics here later.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 03, 2009, 04:00:10 pm
http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2009/01/this-is-not-job-for-superman.html

(http://i41.tinypic.com/noyesj.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/212e81j.jpg)

This issue also has a global warming warning, and the word "Isis" is hidden above a rising sun.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 05, 2009, 03:22:34 pm
From the same issue.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/24oslch.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 05, 2009, 05:10:51 pm
FORD:

Great work on that SUPERMAN issue ... no wonder they pulled it!

And you have a KÓÒL blog, Dude!

One other thing ... I meant to give you credit for the ILLUMINATI #1 art that I used in my last post ... it was, after all, the OP on this thread. Thanks for turning me on to that series.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on January 05, 2009, 05:13:27 pm
FORD:
Great work on that SUPERMAN issue ... no wonder they pulled it!
And you have a KÓÒL ....
+1. Great stuff. I'm gonna have to do the comic book video over again
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: FreemanTV on January 12, 2009, 12:29:28 pm
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/26/l_7a18291ca82b4db6bf55165caa9b3a00.jpg)

Just to be clear, when I was on the Alex Jones show, I did not state that Alan Moore was a 33rd degree Mason. I stated that he was giving an obvious Masonic hand sign.
My point was that after the year 2000 we were moved into the Age of the Anti-Hero. Therefore, Superman dies and is replaced by Hellspawn. Then Batman is broken and is replaced by the fallen angel, Azrael. We are being conditioned to believe that evil means are justified.
I made special mention of Alan Moore's work due to the fact that V for Vendetta is being heralded by the Patriot movement as a positive representation of revolution when in fact, V for Vendetta is based on Aleister Crowley's occult practices coupled with Adam Weishaupt's philosophy of civilization's cycles.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NyweekGbqX4/R6bTakXcLJI/AAAAAAAAAGA/YaMMQmNjIsY/s400/BritneyMind.jpg)
I would recommend looking into my article on the numerology of "W" and realize that the production company that put out V for Vendetta and The Matrix is coded by the number of the Fallen Angels.
http://www.freemantv.com/articles/state_sponsored_terrorism.shtml (http://www.freemantv.com/articles/state_sponsored_terrorism.shtml)
(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/12/l_38e58a63c25e482ea3d7276ce7450fa7.jpg)
Here's my talk at Esozone 2007 explaining the use of magic in our society.
http://www.freemantv.com/video/sorcerers_atlantis_esozone_1.shtml (http://www.freemantv.com/video/sorcerers_atlantis_esozone_1.shtml)
www.freemantv.com
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on January 12, 2009, 01:28:44 pm
hey Freeman I love your work fella, keep on spreading truth in the superb way that you do, we are honoured to have you here.

(or if you are one of his helpers then - hey I love Freeman's work as do lots of people here and elsewhere)

either way many thanks for the contribution to this thread, looks like I have some reading to do  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Volitzar on January 12, 2009, 02:28:43 pm
Yeah but some still can't get the Marvel/NWO connection.

Good job.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on January 12, 2009, 02:50:58 pm
I'd guess they handed over control when the Comics Code came in, but don't know the deep history - can anyone confirm?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/CCA.gif)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on January 12, 2009, 07:00:03 pm
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/26/l_7a18291ca82b4db6bf55165caa9b3a00.jpg)

Just to be clear, when I was on the Alex Jones show, I did not state that Alan Moore was a 33rd degree Mason. I stated that he was giving an obvious Masonic hand sign.
My point was that after the year 2000 we were moved into the Age of the Anti-Hero. Therefore, Superman dies and is replaced by Hellspawn. Then Batman is broken and is replaced by the fallen angel, Azrael. We are being conditioned to believe that evil means are justified....
exactly where my research leads. Relativist heroes and fallen angels.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 12, 2009, 10:39:16 pm
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Just to be clear, when I was on the Alex Jones show, I did not state that Alan Moore was a 33rd degree Mason. I stated that he was giving an obvious Masonic hand sign.
My point was that after the year 2000 we were moved into the Age of the Anti-Hero. Therefore, Superman dies and is replaced by Hellspawn. Then Batman is broken and is replaced by the fallen angel, Azrael. We are being conditioned to believe that evil means are justified....

Thanks for the clarification, I didn't catch that particular program. I would argue that the anti-hero has been around a bit longer than the year 2000. Characters like Wolverine and the Punisher became popular in the late eighties, and this led to a slew of anti-heroes isuch as Cable and Lobo in the nineties. The popularity of the anti-heroes has died down a bit in recent years.

Superman did die, but he came back after a short year, and he is as popular as he ever was, while the anti-hero Spawn's is on the decline. Azrael was killed off years ago, and with the new movie Batman is more popular than ever. (If anyone thinks he will stay dead due to the current R.I.P. storyline, they haven't read comics for very long). If we are being conditioned by anything in current comics, I would have to say it's that graphic violence is okay.

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I would recommend looking into my article on the numerology of "W" and realize that the production company that put out V for Vendetta and The Matrix is coded by the number of the Fallen Angels.

That was an interesting history on the symbology of V, it being a female symbol makes perfect sense. I knew of the alleged Bush-Crowly connection, but I didn't know they are descended from Franlin Peirce.

 
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I made special mention of Alan Moore's work due to the fact that V for Vendetta is being heralded by the Patriot movement as a positive representation of revolution when in fact, V for Vendetta is based on Aleister Crowley's occult practices coupled with Adam Weishaupt's philosophy of civilization's cycles.

Alan Moore is an admitted occultist and a fan of Crowley, that can't be debated. I don't see how the film is  based on Crowley's occult practices or coupled with Weishaupt's philosophy. Could you provide some examples?

I saw the film as a warning about giving government more power to protect the people from terrorism, and the danger of labeling dissenters as "unpatriotic." It even gave an example of false flag operations. I don't believe Moore was intentionally using the letter V as an occult symbol, unless he was taking a page from Tsin's "The Art of War" by using the enemy's symbols against them.

   
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on January 13, 2009, 12:34:49 pm
I know very little about Moore.

But, as a student of film and literature, I find the Wachowski Brothers films interesting.  The common message I see in the Matrix Trilogy and V for Vendetta, is that we can sit back and wait for some superhuman to come along and save us.  Neo is the one.  V is a blind, burnt mutant.

To some extent, it could be said that comic books do the same.  Just wait for Bruce Wayne or Peter Parker to leap into action.  Notice those guys aren't ever cleaning out the White House or Capital Hill. 

My personal opinion is this.  We humans need entertainment.  Violence and revenge are entertaining storylines, and ultimately, there is nothing wrong with violence in stories.  It belongs in fiction and not in reality.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 13, 2009, 02:41:35 pm
I don't mind violence in fiction, but the graphic violence in comic books has gone a bit over the top in recent years. I don't think it's part of a conspiracy, but it is in bad taste.


Warning, graphic violence ahead.















(http://i42.tinypic.com/2dl9fn6.jpg)

In this one, Wonder Woman breaks a man's neck, killing him instantly.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/14xia1s.jpg)

Superboy Prime rips off a hero's arm.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/6gzwqd.jpg)

Black Adam pushes the Psycho Pirate's eyes through his skull.

Believe me, there are much more graphic images I could post than these. Superboy Prime fries a pregnant woman with his heat vision, Blue Beetle gets shot in the head, The Martian Manhunter gets impaled, ect. IMO, these are done for shock value, and the story could get told just as well without the graphic violent images. 




Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 14, 2009, 04:54:48 pm

This story seems to fit here ... meet some of the camo-guys who have this stuff firmly ingrained in their brains:
http://timesonline.typepad.com/inside_iraq_weblog/2008/11/flying-in-iraq.html (http://timesonline.typepad.com/inside_iraq_weblog/2008/11/flying-in-iraq.html)

November 06, 2008
Flying in Iraq with 'Supermen'

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/superman.jpg)


EXCERPT:
It was supposed to be a regular military helicopter ride back to Baghdad.

The two Blackhawks looked fairly ordinary as they swooped down to land at a US base north of the capital where I had spent the past few days. At first glance, the crews onboard were also fairly non-descript, dressed in normal army fatigues or beige, all-in-one, pilot jumpsuits.

There was no sense of any special powers as I clambored onboard one of the aircraft and it took off. Even as we cruised over fields and small villages, bouncing slightly in the wind, there was no hint of superhuman-ness.

It was only when we touched down at an even bigger base that the truth emerged: I was being carted around by a crew of Supermen.Literally.The Louisiana-based 1-244 Assault Helicopter Battalion is made up of superheroes. A-Company, which I was with, is named after Superman, while B-Company is Batman. I am not too sure which comic book hero is associated with C-Company, but D-Company is dedicated to Ironman.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/batman_2.jpg)

Specialist Cordell Mallory, 24, a gunner on my helicopter, has been a ‘Superman’ for six months.
“It feels awesome,” he said. Asked where his red cape was, however, Specialist Mallory admitted: “I left it back home."

The ‘S’ logo scrawled across the real Superman’s chest is emblazoned on walls around A-Company’s headquarters at the Balad military base. There is also an action picture of Clarke Kent in his Superman garb painted on a concrete slab outside a large dining hall.
Next to Superman is a painting of Batman, looking similarly tough.

Reservist pilot Major Randel Gillette, 43, is an honourary Superman. He said he enjoys his job, piloting a Blackhawk across the country, while joking that he felt “intimidated” being surrounded by so many superheroes."

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Volitzar on January 15, 2009, 12:40:38 am
Great now that the NWO runs Marvel you can bet Globalism will be promoted in comic books and Constitutionalists will be demonized.

Let me guess...  with DC Comics there will be a Legion of Constitutionalists as their new super villian foes.  Along with the Global League as the new "heros".

Makes ya sick.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Tsul777 on January 15, 2009, 12:55:58 am
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk58/johntsul/1209354753560sh9.jpg)
Would this qualify?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Volitzar on January 15, 2009, 01:58:31 am
Yep !!!!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on January 15, 2009, 06:05:51 am
nice to see the brainwashed troops saluting a stormtrooper of the evil galactic empire, errrrrrrrr..................... (sighs)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Tsul777 on January 15, 2009, 06:14:26 am
nice to see the brainwashed troops saluting a stormtrooper of the evil galactic empire, errrrrrrrr..................... (sighs)

Isn't that what it's all about really? The evil empire?

"i don't think this is real christian man; people cuttin' off people's heads and shit"

"junior" from Platoon
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on January 15, 2009, 07:11:33 am
Isn't that what it's all about really? The evil empire?

"i don't think this is real christian man; people cuttin' off people's heads and shit"

"junior" from Platoon

yep pretty much I reckon
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on January 17, 2009, 07:36:09 am
Ohhhh, Spidey...Bermas said that experts think this could be the best selling Spiderman Issue in 10 years.  >:(


(http://s.wsj.net/media/spider_man_HV_20090108151533.jpg)

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/01/17/spideyobama0117.html

Obama issue quick to net Spidey fans

By Marcus K. Garner

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Saturday, January 17, 2009

Hold on to your spider web, true believers.

President-elect Barack Obama has teamed up with your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man.

In what became an instant collector’s item, America’s first African-American president steals the spotlight from the superhero on the cover of a special edition of the Marvel Comics classic.

“Hey, if you get to be on my cover, can I be on the dollar bill?” the Web-head quips as he snaps a picture of a front-and-center Obama.

They’ve got a bit in common.

Both have —- or will have by next week —- great power along with great responsibility.

Tuesday morning’s release of the Inauguration Day edition of The Amazing Spider-Man issue No. 583 had Spidey fans ecstatic.

“He’s such an everyman hero,” high school teacher Adam Throne said of the masked avenger. “And here you have him with a president who’s going to fight for everybody.”

The actual encounter between Obama and the webbed crime fighter is a six-page backup story printed at the end of the main —- and unrelated —- story line. The president-elect has a run-in with an evil doppelganger, and good ol’ Web-head must swing in to save the day.

The special edition sent comic collectors scrambling for copies.

The book that originally sold for $3.99 Tuesday morning was listed on eBay for as much as nearly $300 by the end of the day. Bidders were offering more than $100.

“I didn’t think I was going to be paying this much,” said Tracy Oliver, an Alpharetta software developer who paid $45 Tuesday night for his copy at Oxford Comics in Buckhead.

“I got a feeling the price was going to be going up. The only [other] place in the city that had it was selling it for $70.”

Oxford Comics in Atlanta was swamped with comic book fans and political history collectors who quickly bought out the 1,000 editions at the store, owner Mike VanHouten said.

“There were lines of 50 or more wrapped around the building,” VanHouten said. “People were happy to pay $45. This is the biggest thing since the death of Superman.”

Marvel Comics officials said the issue pays tribute to a longtime —- and well-publicized —- Spidey fan.

“When we heard that President-elect Obama is a collector of Spider-Man comics, we knew that these two historic figures had to meet in our comics’ Marvel Universe,” Marvel’s Editor in Chief Joe Quesada said in a statement. “Historic moments such as this one can be reflected in our comics because the Marvel Universe is set in the real world. A Spider-Man fan moving into the Oval Office is an event that must be commemorated in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man.”

“It’s such an historic occasion, I had to get one,” said Buckhead resident Timothy Smith, who paid $45 for the comic —- the first he’d ever bought. “Hopefully, this will be my retirement.”

VanHouten and Throne said they hope the cross-section of young admirers of the two charismatic individuals is inspired to read more.

“The idea of having a fictional hero meet a real hero is a great opportunity for my students,” Throne said. “They see that heroes are tangible and people they can see and maybe become someday.”

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on January 17, 2009, 07:55:58 am
Variant cover...

(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/obamavariant_2.jpg)
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-01-08-spideyobama1.jpg)(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-01-08-spideyobama2.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on January 18, 2009, 02:28:51 am
What? But that's hilarious.

(http://anotherkcblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/joe-biden.jpg?w=237&h=285)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/519px-Vulture.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: nike on January 18, 2009, 10:02:09 pm
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6205/2e1ae236cf374c9ca0ebe99ch0.jpg)

I think this is the first time I've seen Mark's comic book mentioned in a forum.  The man who tried to adapt Shea and Wilson's trilogy to a comic format is named Mark Steele and he lives in Kalamazoo Michigan.  He published two other issues of Illuminatus! and had issue number four ready to send to Rip Off Press when Rip Off opted to drop them.  They claimed the art work quality wasn't up to their standards and Mark unfortunately missed the deadline for the third issue.  Mark has an exclusive contract signed by Shea and Wilson with sole permission to adapt Illuminatus! to a comic book.  I remember reading the contract and it stipulated that Mark was the only person in the universe who had permission to do the adaptation.  No one else was willing to pick up Illuminatus! after Rip Off dropped it and Mark had to set that project aside.  With Shea and Wilson both dead now I don't know if it will ever be completed.

Mark Steele has spent a number of years researching other comic book characters and even made plans to publish a comic book compilation of old classic comic book heroes where the copyright had lapsed.  That comic is inked, colored and been ready to go to the printers for over a decade but once again no one is willing to publish.  EyenApple productions does have a website of sorts, but it hasn't been updated in a long time.  http://www.anerispress.com/ena/ 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 21, 2009, 10:48:48 am
Last week, I signed out V for Vendetta (comic book) from the library. It does contain some Crowley overtures, while the film does not.

On one page, V exclaims "Do what thou Wilt.", which is a wink nudge to Crowley.

I'm still not finished with it, I will have more on this later.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Dekionplexis on January 23, 2009, 07:07:32 am
This has been absolutely FASCINATING.
As one time comic book fan the level of predictive programming going on is astounding.

Stan Lee is a freemason is he not?

Also I know he had some dodgy dealings with a guy that worked for Hillary Clinton, whom she later denounced.

Either way, this is excellent stuff. I also HAD to buy those 'SUBURBAN HIGH LIFE' comics from the US. I wanna get a copy of that spooky Superman one too.

:D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on January 23, 2009, 07:28:33 am

Either way, this is excellent stuff. I also HAD to buy those 'SUBURBAN HIGH LIFE' comics from the US. I wanna get a copy of that spooky Superman one too.

:D
you bought them? hey listen, suburban high life is a big joke, and the joke's on us cause it's all true. Do the world a service and scan the comic books to jpeg, cause they're so rare.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Dekionplexis on January 23, 2009, 09:17:55 am
you bought them? hey listen, suburban high life is a big joke, and the joke's on us cause it's all true. Do the world a service and scan the comic books to jpeg, cause they're so rare.

Ah, I don't have a scanner..yet. I'll see what I can do.
Yeah got all 3 off Ebay, mint condition for $14 inclduing postage to the UK.
RESULT!
:)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on January 23, 2009, 09:21:11 am
Ah, I don't have a scanner..yet. I'll see what I can do.
Yeah got all 3 off Ebay, mint condition for $14 inclduing postage to the UK.
RESULT!
:)


cameras of any kind..
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Dekionplexis on January 23, 2009, 09:27:59 am
cameras of any kind..

yeah I got a pretty good digicam, that said I got some other stuff I've been thinking about scanning, so I might invest in one. It'll be a week or two till I get them, I'll report back

 ;D

Ed: looking on various sites, the issues are out there for a few bucks together
https://www.atomicavenue.com/atomic/titledetail.aspx?TitleID=19215
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on January 23, 2009, 09:40:27 am
yeah I got a pretty good digicam, that said I got some other stuff I've been thinking about scanning, so I might invest in one. It'll be a week or two till I get them, I'll report back

 ;D
...
hey man, no pressure. it would be really interesting.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Suriel on January 29, 2009, 10:39:37 am
If you are interested in Project Bluebeam and the elite controlling the problem, reaction and solution then Watchmen is a must read.   
(http://www.sliceofscifi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/watchmen-cover.jpg)
Here is the plot summary:

Story
Watchmen is set in an alternate reality which closely mirrors the contemporary world of the 1980s. The primary point of divergence is the presence of superheroes. Their existence in this iteration of America is shown to have dramatically affected and altered the outcomes of real-world events such as the Vietnam War and the presidency of Richard Nixon.[16] In keeping with the realism of the series, although the costumed crime fighters of Watchmen are commonly called "superheroes", the only character who possesses obvious superhuman powers is Doctor Manhattan.[17] The existence of Doctor Manhattan has given the U.S. a strategic advantage over the Soviet Union, which has increased tensions between the two nations. Additionally, superheroes have become unpopular among the public, which has led to the passage of legislation in 1977 to outlaw them. While many of the heroes retired, Doctor Manhattan and the Comedian operate as government-sanctioned agents, and Rorschach continues to operate outside the law.[18]

Plot summary
In October 1985, New York City police are investigating the murder of Edward Blake. With the police having no leads, costumed vigilante Rorschach, who keeps a personal journal, decides to probe further. Discovering Blake to be the face behind The Comedian, a costumed hero employed by the United States government, Rorschach believes he has discovered a plot to eliminate costumed adventurers and sets about warning four of his retired comrades, Dan Dreiberg (formerly the second Nite Owl), the super-powered and emotionally detached Doctor Manhattan and his lover Laurie Juspeczyk (the second Silk Spectre), and Adrian Veidt (once the hero Ozymandias, and now a successful businessman).

After Blake's funeral, Doctor Manhattan is accused on national television of causing cancer in friends and former colleagues. When the U.S. government takes the accusations seriously, Manhattan exiles himself to Mars. In doing so he throws humanity into political turmoil, with the Soviet Union invading Afghanistan to capitalize on the perceived American weakness. Rorschach's paranoid beliefs appear vindicated when Adrian Veidt narrowly survives an assassination attempt, and Rorschach himself is framed for murder and arrested.

Jaded in her relationship, and no longer kept on retainer by the government, Juspeczyk stays with Dreiberg; they don their costumes as they grow closer together. With Dreiberg starting to believe some aspects of Rorschach's conspiracy theory, the pair take it upon themselves to free him from prison. Doctor Manhattan, after analyzing his own personal history, places the fate of his involvement with human affairs in Juspeczyk's hands. He teleports her to Mars to make the case for emotional investment. During the course of the argument, Juspeczyk is forced to come to terms with the fact that Blake was her biological father, the discovery of which re-engages Doctor Manhattan's interest in humanity.

On Earth, Nite Owl and Rorschach continue to uncover the conspiracy surrounding the death of The Comedian and the accusations that drove Doctor Manhattan into exile. They discover evidence that Adrian Veidt may be behind the plan. After adding a last entry, before leaving to confront Veidt, Rorschach mails his journal to a small right wing magazine. The pair then fly to Veidt's Antarctic retreat. Veidt explains his underlying plan is to save humanity from impending nuclear war between the United States and Soviet Union by faking an alien invasion in New York City, which he hopes will unite the nations against a perceived common enemy. He also reveals that he had killed The Comedian, arranged for Dr. Manhattan's past associates to contract cancer, and staged the attempt on his own life in order to place himself above suspicion. Finding his logic callous and abhorrent, Dreiberg and Rorschach attempt to stop him but discover that Veidt has already enacted his plan.

When Doctor Manhattan and Juspeczyk arrive back to Earth, they are confronted by mass destruction and wide scale death in New York City. Doctor Manhattan notices his abilities are limited by tachyons emanating from the Antarctic, and the pair teleport there. They discover Veidt's involvement and confront him. Veidt shows everyone news broadcasts confirming the cessation of global hostilities, leading almost all present to agree that concealing the truth from the public is in the best interests of the world. Rorschach refuses to compromise and leaves, intent on revealing the truth. As he is making his way back, he is confronted by Manhattan. Rorschach tells Manhattan he'll have to kill him to stop him from exposing Veidt and his actions, and Manhattan responds by vaporizing him. Manhattan then wanders through the base and finds Veidt, who asks Manhattan if he did the right thing in the end. Manhattan's response is that "Nothing ever ends", then leaves Earth for a different galaxy without answering Veidt's question. Dreiberg and Juspeczyk go into hiding under new identities and continue their romance.

In New York City, the editor of the magazine which received Rorschach's journal had placed it in a "Crank" pile after having heard only one sentence read. Some time later (after Veidt's attack) and in need of filler material, the editor sends his assistant to grab something from the "Crank" pile. The series ends with a shot of the assistant reaching for the pile, near the top of which is Rorschach's journal.

References
Reynolds, Richard. Super Heroes: A Modern Mythology. B. T. Batsford Ltd, 1992. ISBN 0-7134-6560-3
Wright, Bradford W. Comic Book Nation: The Transformation of Youth Culture in America. Johns Hopkins, 2001. ISBN 0-8018-7450-5
16.Wright, p. 271
17.Wright, p. 272
18.Reynolds, p. 106
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Brocke on January 29, 2009, 01:31:00 pm
Re. Watchmen
Yet another of Alan Moore's brilliant creations.

I love Moore's work in spite of the fact he is high level OTO and probably A∴A∴ as well as a Mason at some level. He admittedly worships a "Snake God" [Lucifer?] and is as dark a character as H.R.Giger.

(http://www.topshelfcomix.com/catalog/covers/alanmoorelitho_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on January 29, 2009, 01:42:17 pm
After reading Freeman's post about V for Vendetta, I checked out the comic book version to see if he was correct on it being based on Crowly's occult magic. While I didn't see any rituals, V frequently quotes Crowly, and Crowly is even mentioned on one page.

I've studied the works of Moore for a long time, and I still don't know whose side he's on. I don't think being an occultist or a Mason automatically makes a person pro NWO. I've spoken to some Masons who appeared to be hugely anti NWO. (Of course they could have been scamming me.)

I don't pretend to know all the ins and outs of the Mason/NWO connection, but In the end, it's the actions of the individual that count. Moore has warned about project Blue Beam, and written about how fascism can come to a western society. Andrew Jackson was a high level Mason, and he fought the banks tooth and nail until his dying day.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on January 29, 2009, 01:50:10 pm
After reading Freeman's post about V for Vendetta, I checked out the comic book version to see if he was correct on it being based on Crowly's occult magic. While I didn't see any rituals, V frequently quotes Crowly, and Crowly is even mentioned on one page....
ford, no research needed. look up "hollywoods war on god". they did excellent research on crowley in V.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Suriel on January 29, 2009, 01:52:21 pm
Oh yeah I love his work to.  The  Rorschach origin story is probably one of my favorite comic book book moments.  I saw an interview where he talked about the "snake God" he worships and that he calls it "Sweetie".  It's true name is Glycon.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Glykon-statuette.jpg)

Glycon was a snake god, according to the satirist Lucian, who provides the only literary reference to the deity. Lucian claimed Glycon was created in the mid-second century by the Greek prophet Alexander of Abonutichus. Lucian was ill-disposed toward the cult, calling Alexander the "oracle-monger" and accusing the whole enterprise of being a hoax — Glycon himself was supposedly a glove puppet.

Macedonian cultural roots
The cult possibly originated in Macedonia, where similar snake cults had existed for centuries. The Macedonians believed snakes had magical powers relating to fertility and had a rich mythology on this subject, for example the story of Olympias' impregnation by Zeus disguised as a serpent.

Early years
At least initially, the cult did not worship an abstraction or a spirit of a snake but an actual, physical serpent that was said to embody the god. According to the cult's mythology, the snake appeared after Alexander had foretold the coming of a new incarnation of Asclepius. When the people gathered in the marketplace of Abonutichus at noon, when the incarnation was supposed to occur, Alexander produced a serpent egg and sliced it open, revealing the god within. Within a week it grew to the size of a man with the features of a man on its face, including long blond hair. At this point the figure resembling this description was apparently a puppet that appeared in the temple. In some references Glycon was a trained snake with a puppet head.

As with previous Macedonian snake cults, the focus of worship at the temple was on fertility. Barren women would bring offerings to Glycon in hopes of becoming pregnant. According to Lucian, Alexander had less magical ways of causing pregnancy among his flock as well. The god was also believed to offer protection against the plague.

Spread and influence
By 160, the worship of Glycon had undoubtedly spread beyond the Aegean. An inscription from Antioch of that date records a slogan, "Glycon protect us from the plague-cloud" that is consistent with the description we have from Lucian. Also in that year the governor of Asia, Publius Mummius Sisenna Rutilianus, declared himself protector of Glycon's oracle. The governor later married Alexander's daughter. According to Lucian, another Roman governor, of Cappadocia, was led by Glycon's oracle to his death in Armenia, and even the Emperor himself was not immune to the cult: Marcus Aurelius sought prophesies from Alexander and his snake god.

Meanwhile, Abonutichus, a small fishing village before the arrival of the cult, became an important town and accepted another name, Ionopolis. It is uncertain what role the popularity of Glycon played in the rise of the city.

In short order Glycon worship was found throughout the vast area between the Danube and Euphrates. Beginning late in the reign of Antoninus Pius and continuing into the third century, official Roman coins were struck in honor of Glycon, attesting his popularity. While the cult gradually lost followers after the death of its leader in c.170, it survived for at least a hundred years thereafter, with Alexander being incorporated into its mythology as a grandson of Asclepius. Some evidence indicates the cult survived into the fourth century.

Modern times
Residual superstitions originating with Glycon were reported by some researchers to continue even into modern times. A Turkish friend of Jona Lendering once told him that in the early 1970s, when he was hunting in the hills near Inebolu, the modern name of Ionopolis, people warned him about a magical snake.

Following his (as he put it) "coming out" as a magician in 1993, the English graphic novelist and occultist Alan Moore has declared himself a devotee of Glycon, and has cheerfully admitted in interviews the absurdity of worshiping a probable fraud. Moore has declared he considers all ideas (including fictions) in some sense, "real". He has performed spoken word under the name the Moon and Serpent Grand Egyptian Theatre of Marvels. With Steve Moore, Alan Moore is preparing a book — entitled The Moon and Serpent Bumper Book of Magic, which will detail the history of magic, and particularly the histories of both Alexander and Glycon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycon
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on January 29, 2009, 02:24:52 pm
I don't particularly care that the snake symbol is a part of the human subconscious - it is what it is, it sheds it's skin, etc.

But aren't there some communities in the hill country (Ozarks?), real hillbilly types, that worship and play with venemous snakes in an echo of shamanism? For anyone to be taking psychological symbols literally in this day and age is pretty... well, infantile.

Oh, yeah, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_handling

It's a Pentecostal sect. Parse that one if you will.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: piratenews on February 04, 2009, 09:58:32 am
Batman The Dark Knight Founded 9.11 Truth (http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2008/12/dark-knight-dvd-holy-batshit-911-truth.html)

Comic graphic novel The Dark Knight Strikes Again (DK2) published 12 Sept 2001, where Batman assassinated the president of the United States (Lex Luthor = Bush/Cheney) by ramming his robot Batjet into the president's skyscraper (as seen on History Channel), in retaliation of the president's false-flag robot attack to bomb Metropolis (NY City).

The Joker was Robin, a mindcontrol slave working as a false-flag suicide bomber for the president of USA.

Batgirl and Batman used THERMITE and EXPLOSIVE CONTROLLED DEMOLITION to kill Robin/Joker.

(http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/MOVIE/18432_the_dark_knight-v2.jpg)

TDK movie did not contain a scene of the Batjet crashing into a skyscraper, but used this image on movie posters and the WB website, WHICH IS A BIG DAMN HINT TO GO READ THE BOOK! Too bad the sheeple are lazy, illiterate and stupid.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: BlackFeather on February 07, 2009, 10:08:15 am
The images are there because the stuff sells.  Period.   People like shock.  Look at reality.  It was a huge shock for the towers to get hit.   It doesn't mean comic book artists are part of a conspiracy.  It means they went after shock value.  That is why a lot of stories involve the possibility of destroying the world.  People want to know there is a super hero who can save it.   This is a classic story archetype.  It is nothing more than that.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 07, 2009, 11:41:49 am
The images are there because the stuff sells.  Period.   People like shock.  Look at reality.  It was a huge shock for the towers to get hit.   It doesn't mean comic book artists are part of a conspiracy.  It means they went after shock value.  That is why a lot of stories involve the possibility of destroying the world.  People want to know there is a super hero who can save it.   This is a classic story archetype.  It is nothing more than that.

Pretty specific details within this example of your archetype...

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp94/JJZero2/X-Men189Page2.jpg

(http://i33.tinypic.com/oigls0.jpg)

It's from Uncanny X men #189, 1984. A time traveller from the 21rst century reflects on seeing the WTC burn.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: BlackFeather on February 08, 2009, 08:56:43 am
Pretty specific details within this example of your archetype...


And that same shocking style imagery was in "Planet of the Apes" and heralded as one of the most dramatic movie moments--liberty's head and hand sticking up from the sand.

It sells.

I think now the trend is to push more what the comic book publishers will buy, but at the beginning it was shock and just good story writing.   If you go to those writers book clubs online and start perusing titles you see books on creating archetypes, plot lines, etc.  Even plots fall into certain categories.  Plots with shock value would sell more--hence end of the world stuff in the early years of comic books.

Now what is the main driving force is money.  I can't deny that there may be government intentions behind them now.  Certainly there are publisher intentions.   It's money.  It sells because it's what the people want (or what they think they want).   They are new versions of old tales even back to Heracles.    It's a desire for a real hero.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 11, 2009, 01:29:00 am
I don't really see how your example compares to what we have been discussing?

Do apes run the planet?

Is the head of the Statue of Liberty on a beach somewhere?


Hard to believe you can't see the difference.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on February 19, 2009, 10:50:02 pm
Seen the new Watchmen posters?

(http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/watchmen-manhattan-med-sized.jpg)(http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/watchmen-Ozymandias-med-sized.jpg)

More at http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/11/10/it-never-stops-six-more-beautiful-watchmen-posters/
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on February 20, 2009, 07:31:00 pm
"Six more beautiful".......Are they nuts?

THat is one of the most horrific things I've ever seen.  UGH.  >:(

They are NOT even being subtle about it anymore, are they?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on February 21, 2009, 02:21:09 am
Literature is tricky, of course, because you have to parse who's being portrayed as the hero, and who's the villain. When you get into morally ambiguous types and anti-heroes - such as Moore and much of modernist literature fills its pages with - it gets even trickier to discern intent when themes like this are played with, and the issue of irony complicates things further. Warning? Conditioning? A lot of people here have strong opinions on Moore's work based on the entirety of his output, and there have been a lot of good points made on the subject in this thread. There's a quote this brings to mind, though...

Quote
The obvious question, to which the heirs of statistical Naturalism have no answer, is: if heroes and geniuses are not to be regarded as representative of mankind, by reason of their numerical rarity, why are freaks and monsters to be regarded as representative? Why are the problems of a bearded lady of greater universal significance than the problems of a genius? Why is the soul of a murderer worth studying, but not the soul of a hero?

The answer lies in the basic metaphysical premise of Naturalism, whether its practitioners ever chose it consciously or not: as an outgrowth of modern philosophy, that basic premise is anti-man, anti-mind, anti-life; and, as an outgrowth of the altruist morality, Naturalism is a frantic escape from moral judgment—a long, wailing plea for pity, for tolerance, for the forgiveness of anything.

Ayn Rand, “The Esthetic Vacuum of Our Age,”
The Romantic Manifesto, 125

Obviously Alan Moore's a brilliant man, his writing is well executed, intricate, and troubling on many levels. Is he saying Ozymandias is right? From my admittedly fuzzy memory of the graphic novel, Ozymandias is portrayed as misguided, a dark genius with his own notion of the good for mankind. (The Egyptology angle is interesting, not only because that symbolism is shared by occultists and secret societies, but because of the way that society operated. And the Shelley poem of the same name, of course.) What about Rorschach? Is his vigilantism justified? Well, it gets the job done, even if the man is little more than a cipher, a representation of the operation of chaos in the world. Everything is shades of grey and black. Dr. Manhattan, the omniscient observer, is, in the end, disgusted with the affair.

The Watchmen seems to be a meditation on human nature, and if I'm right, this is what makes it so timeless and compelling. What is the sense of life Moore projects, and how does this view of humanity influence what one should do about humanity? Are we heroes, capable of rational, independent thought, efficacious, capable of navigating through the world and fulfilling our potential? Are we a Hobbesian rabble, lost, fouling our nest, in need of a ruler or the Leviathan of the state to keep us from self-destructing? Who is the fool, living in the past, who is ascendant? That's what the Watchmen asks, and anyone walking into that theatre looking for an escapist adventure and spectacle without something of a critical attitude towards these issues is going to get schooled in a viewpoint that lies at some point along the axis between these two views.

(http://api.ning.com/files/KSIMUu4ewW04OAv3sgWi72KAAussYXsCtlP9Hf9GHl0_/Watchmen0301.jpg)

(http://www.philobiblon.com/isitabook/comics/Watchmen2Medium.jpg)

(http://wtw.lowtion.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/watchmen-12-27.jpg)

(Oh, incidentally, online sources have the number '3' as being associated with Jupiter, for those that think numerology means anything. Look at the release date for the film. Very funny, guys. Get a grip.)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 21, 2009, 11:53:37 am
(http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/watchmen-Ozymandias-med-sized.jpg)

See the Stargate?

Sacrifice for the New Era...

Familiar theme.  Even the new President is calling for a New Era of sacrifice and service for the good of the world.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on February 21, 2009, 11:55:54 am
3+6+9 = 18   (18 divided by 3=6, or 6+6+6)

Interesting, isn't it?   :D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on February 21, 2009, 08:18:14 pm
See the Stargate?

Sacrifice for the New Era...

Familiar theme.  Even the new President is calling for a New Era of sacrifice and service for the good of the world.

The kitty/sphinx is a genetic hybrid, as well.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on February 21, 2009, 08:26:03 pm
3+6+9 = 18   (18 divided by 3=6, or 6+6+6)

Interesting, isn't it?   :D

Somehow I ended up having the 333rd response to this thread. Lol. Just goes to show you that coincidence does rear its head on occasion. But the film date is evidently chosen to have some sort of impact.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 23, 2009, 05:28:57 pm
From a new post at Mercury's Garden

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2009/02/wonder-woman-attacks-nyc.html

(Please visit and support my blog, and feel free to post as many links as you want.)

Wonder Woman Attacks NYC!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2w7269d.jpg)
 
I've displayed this cover before. I found it while I was browsing through comic book covers. The cover date is January 1982, and it is issue #287.



While the building on the cover is obviously not the twin towers, (it does look a little like building 7 though)I found it intriguing . A runaway plane is about to wreck New York. Inside the plane is the goddess Diana (Wonder Woman), and the Titans of Myth (Teen Titans) are trying to get things under control. All this and the huntress too! But wait a minute, I thought Diana was the Huntress? Oh well.

I thought there might be more to this issue than meets the eye, so I sought one out and bought it.

It starts out with Donna Troy and Starfire checking out the waterfront. They are attacked by green hooded thugs, and Donna is kidnapped. It turns out it was all a plot by Doctor Cyber to get Wonder Woman to fly her invisible plane to New York. (To those of you giggling at her name, Doctor Cyber first appeared in the sixties, long before the internet was common and "Cyber" became the term we are familiar with.)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/1607w55.jpg)


It appears Doctor Cyber's base of operations is the Pentagon, (lol) where she is performing some sort of ritual in order to take over the "invisible" plane. Cyber baby, the purple jumpsuit has got to go, but the gold mask is bitchin!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/hrzlgz.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/15qp2q9.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/242ef6s.jpg)

There you have it. You have just witnessed a black magick ritual designed to take remote control of an invisible plane with a goddess inside of it, and crash it into the twin towers, depicted in a comic book twenty years before 911.

If you are wondering, the Titans were able to save the people from the falling debris, and with Wonder Woman they were able to rescue Donna.

When I think I have uncovered all there is, something like this comes in and floors me. And Condi said no one envisioned terrorists using airplanes as a weapon.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Biggs on February 24, 2009, 04:14:05 am
more amazing finds Ford, many thanks for enlightening us
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Suriel on February 24, 2009, 03:32:44 pm
I find it interesting all of the Illuminati symbols that are in Watchmen.  There is this one part when a character named Moloch is killed.  It is one shot to the head with two lines of blood coming down.  It looks like the Illuminati pyramid with the gunshot bing the eye.  I tried to find a picture of it on-line but it was not there.  Also I find it interesting that on Ozymandias is a pyramid with an eye in the middle rather then on the top.  Could it be a reference to the folowing picture of Alister Crowley?  I think that is an eye in the middle but I am not for sure.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Aleister_Crowley_4.png)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on February 24, 2009, 10:27:48 pm
more amazing finds Ford, many thanks for enlightening us

That is indeed unbelievable.  Just wondering - was it foreshadowing, or conditioning?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Brocke on February 24, 2009, 10:28:42 pm
Slightly off topic but interesting...

Lesbian Batwoman takes over Gotham City

By staff writers

Herald Sun

February 13, 2009 07:52am

(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6484580,00.jpg)
Back in town ... a new look Batwoman is taking over from where Batman left off. Picture: DC Comics

    * Batwoman replaces Batman in comic series
    * Character is now a red-headed lesbian
    * Batman star Bale sorry for tantrum

SHE first swung into action 50 years ago, helping her boyfriend Batman rid Gotham City of villains until she was killed off in 1979.

Now Batwoman is making a comeback, replacing Batman - who is missing, presumed dead - in the popular DC Comics series.

And this time around the superheroine's alter ego, Kathy Kane, is a red-headed lesbian.

Billed as a "lesbian socialite by night and a crime-fighter by later in the night", the new Batwoman is clad in a figure-hugging black outfit with knee-high red stiletto boots.

She is set to appear in at leasty 12 issues of the Detective Comics, the first of which will appear in June, the BBC reports.

"We've been waiting to unlock her - it's long overdue," DC Comics writer Greg Rucka said.

"Yes, she's a lesbian. She's also a redhead.

"If people are going to have problems with it, that's their issue."

Batwoman was first outed in 2006 and has made a number of cameo appearances in the series.

Batman was killed by a fireball last November, though fans suspect he'll be back.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25048288-7485,00.html
Title: Re: Wonder Woman crashes plane into WTC 20 years before 911
Post by: Ford on February 25, 2009, 10:12:24 am
That is indeed unbelievable.  Just wondering - was it foreshadowing, or conditioning?

I am leaning towards psychic phenomena and synchronicity, but after seeing a super villian sitting in the middle of a pentagram in order to take over a plane and crash it into the WTC, and it was written 20 years before 911, I am starting to have doubts.

Brocke, I think diversity in comics is great, but replacing Batman will lead to plummeting sales and he will be back. There is no way Warner brothers are going to let their multi million dollar baby stay absent for long.

Suriel, I found the Moloch thing interesting as well.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 25, 2009, 10:41:30 am
This is NOT off topic!!
IMO...It's just HOT!

The new Batwoman is clad in a figure-hugging black outfit with knee-high red stiletto boots.  :o
(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6484580,00.jpg)

"Yes, she's a lesbian. She's also a redhead.
"If people are going to have problems with it, that's their issue."



I have no problem with any of that...I'm hoping they turn it into a cinematic three-way trilogy!
  ;)


Seriously, though, how decadent can we get?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on February 25, 2009, 01:10:08 pm
FORD:

Your last post about the WONDER WOMAN 911 connections is AMAZING! I thought I would post a bit more about the Amazon PRINCESS DIANA and her creator William Moulton Marston.

There is no doubt that the so-called "sexual revolution" and the horrific degradation of society which we have witnessed was a big part of the Predictive Programming spoonfed the youth of our country throughout the 20th Century. Of course at this point in time, the sado~masochistic titilation is WAY beyond description. It IS the culture!


«« W O N D E R  W O M A N »»

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2446/250pxwonderwomanv5.jpg)

~~~ O ~~~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman)

EXCERPT:
Wonder Woman is a fictional character, a DC Comics superheroine created by William Moulton Marston. First appearing in All Star Comics #8 (December 1941), she is one of three characters to have been continuously published by DC Comics since the company's 1944 inception (except for a brief hiatus in 1984).[1]

Wonder Woman is a member of a fictional, all-female tribe of Amazons (based on the Amazons of Greek mythology) who is sent to "man's world" as an ambassador of peace, charged with the mission of imparting the Amazonian ideals of peace and harmony to "Patriarch's World." Among the Amazons she is known as Princess Diana (being the daughter of Amazon queen Hippolyta); in "man's world" she takes the secret identity of Diana Prince. Her powers include super strength, enhanced speed and stamina, and flight. She is highly proficient in hand-to-hand combat and in the art of tactical warfare. She also possesses an animal-like cunning and a natural rapport with animals, which has in the past been presented as an actual ability to communicate with the animal kingdom. She also makes use of her Lasso of Truth (which forces those bound by it to tell the truth), a pair of indestructible bracelets, and an invisible plane.

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WONDER WOMAN debut.

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Psychologist and inventor

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William Moulton Marston

Marston is credited as the creator of the systolic blood-pressure test used in an attempt to detect deception, which became one component of the modern polygraph. According to their son, Marston's wife, Elizabeth Holloway Marston, was also involved in the development of the systolic blood-pressure test: "According to Marston’s son, it was his mother Elizabeth, Marston’s wife, who suggested to him that 'When she got mad or excited, her blood pressure seemed to climb' (Lamb, 2001). Although Elizabeth is not listed as Marston’s collaborator in his early work, Lamb, Matte (1996), and others refer directly and indirectly to Elizabeth’s work on her husband’s deception research. She also appears in a picture taken in his polygraph laboratory in the 1920s (reproduced in Marston, 1938)."[3][4] Some have linked this device to Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth, but a direct connection is difficult to demonstrate.

From this work, Marston had been convinced that women were more honest and reliable than men, and could work faster and more accurately. During his lifetime, Marston championed the causes of women of the day.

Marston was also a writer of essays in popular psychology.

In 1928 he published Emotions of Normal People, which elaborated the DISC Theory. Marston viewed people behaving along two axes, with their attention being either passive or active, depending on the individual's perception of his or her environment as either favourable or antagonistic. By placing the axes at right angles, four quadrants form with each describing a behavioral pattern:

    * Dominance produces activity in an antagonistic environment
    * Inducement produces activity in a favourable environment
    * Steadiness produces passivity in a favourable environment
    * Compliance produces passivity in an antagonistic environment.

Marston posited that there is a male notion of freedom that is inherently anarchic and violent, and an opposing female notion based on "Love Allure" that leads to an ideal state of submission to loving authority.

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Themes

Marston's Wonder Woman is often cited as an early example of bondage themes entering popular culture: physical submission appears again and again throughout Marston's comics work, with Wonder Woman and her criminal opponents frequently being tied up or otherwise restrained, and her Amazonian friends engaging in frequent wrestling and bondage play (possibly based on Marston's earlier research studies on sorority initiations). These elements were softened by later writers of the series. Though Marston had described female nature as submissive, in his other writings and interviews he referred to submission to women as a noble and potentially world-saving practice, leading ideally to the establishment of a matriarchy, and did not shy away from the sexual implications of this:

    "The only hope for peace is to teach people who are full of pep and unbound force to enjoy being bound ... Only when the control of self by others is more pleasant than the unbound assertion of self in human relationships can we hope for a stable, peaceful human society. ... Giving to others, being controlled by them, submitting to other people cannot possibly be enjoyable without a strong erotic element".[7]

About male readers, he later wrote: "Give them an alluring woman stronger than themselves to submit to, and they'll be proud to become her willing slaves!"[8]

Read entire article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston)

Link to,one of his Psch books: Integrative Psychology
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Images from Marston's book: Private Life of Julius Caesar

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Other FANTASTIC Links:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=7921 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=7921)

http://www.castlekeys.com/Pages/wonder.html (http://www.castlekeys.com/Pages/wonder.html)

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/category/books/ (http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/category/books/)

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/category/history/ (http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/category/history/)

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Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: GoingEtheric on February 25, 2009, 07:54:38 pm
more amazing finds Ford, many thanks for enlightening us
true that. You find some cool stuff Ford.
Jackson holly too
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on February 26, 2009, 10:28:07 am
One really interesting avenue of investigation is associated with Dr. Strange. Apologies if this has already been covered, I unearthed it while looking into the Watchmen the other night but couldn't get into it in the context of that discussion. But there is a link, and that link is Roschach.

(http://moviecomix.com/store/images/uploads/DrStrange01.jpg)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KDlENHggJrU/SKU1hPeyxmI/AAAAAAAAASI/MoYijVyhGoY/s400/Rorschach_portrait.jpg)

Dr. Strange is a co-creation of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko, there's a bit of history here. I'll try to keep this short, but I found it fascinating.

Steve Ditko started working for smaller comics companies and was supposedly an adherent of Objectivism - as I am, and which has nothing to do with the occult (other than to those Christians that assume all athiests are crypto-occultists of some sort). I have my doubts, and suspect it was more of a half-understood interest, for reasons that will soon become clear. He created a couple of characters based on Rand's uncompromisingly moral system. One was named Mr. A (after an Aristotelian maxim) and the other was called The Question.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/Question03.jpg)

During his tenure as a hero for the Charlton Comics label, the plotlines of The Question (at least according to online sources) would have this masked vigilante (who had roots in Ditko's love of Golden-Age heroes like The Spirit), demonstrating how minor ethical failings would lead individuals to greater transgressions as they tried to cover up their small lies, which metastasized into greater lies and led to associations with criminals. In the end, they are just as guilty as the greater criminals for the choices they've made.

Charlton Comics was acquired by Marvel. Alan Moore wanted to use the heroes from the Charlton Universe in his planned Watchmen series, but was overruled, so had to settle for basing his characters on The Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, Nightshade, The Question, and others.

(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blube2sm.jpg)(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/capatosm.jpg)(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/n/nitshasm.jpg)(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/q/questism.jpg)

As becomes clear, Rorschach - a cold-blooded vigilante with a twisted sense of justice that can only be described as immoral - is in fact a perversion of The Question, and an expression of Alan Moore's worldview rather than Ayn Rand's. But back to Dr. Strange.

I'm not sure what happened with Steve Ditko when he started working for Stan Lee, but I did find out that Lee was one of the very few playwrights - read 'propagandists' for the US Army.

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Stan Lee joined, what was to become Marvel Comics, when he was 16 years old. Just one year later he was the youngest editor in the business. But when World War II came around, he joined the Army, serving in the Signal Corps. For three years, the Army had Lee write training films and manuals for all branches of military service. In addition, Stan Lee has the distinction of becoming one of only nine men, including William Saroyan, in the U.S. Army to be given the military classification "playwright."
http://www.ironmanarmory.com/STANLEE.html

Any attempts to trace the biographies of the prior owners of Marvel (Martin Goodman) and the magazine conglomerate it was part of didn't turn up any further specific information this forum would find interesting, at least not online. Unless you count Captain America, I haven't looked into that angle.

Anyways - Stan Lee created Dr. Strange with Steve Ditko, which was hugely popular with the college set in the 1960s for it's surrealistic renderings and bizarre, symbolic plotlines. What I really wanted to bring your attention to was this, however:

(http://losthemisphere.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/strange2_b.jpg?w=375&h=623)

Note the window behind Dr. Strange. It's called the 'Anomaly Rue'. It turns out to be an artistic nod to Will Eisner's spirit.

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  The shape in Doctor Strange's window [DSSS #62, #64, #66, #72]. An arcane geomagickal correlation.
On the name: David Quinn, the writer of Doctor Strange, Sorcerer Supreme at the time, told Neilalien he made up the name "anomaly rue".  On the symbol: From Ditko Looked Up: Eisner's artistic influence on Ditko is present in much of Ditko earliest work. The Spirit lived underground in a tomb in a cemetery and had an abstract German expressionist window - a circle with criss-crosses on it to create curved wedges of black - which Ditko adopted not only for Dr. Strange's mansion, but can be seen at various points throughout Ditko 1950s Charlton mystery stories. A close-up of a Spirit promo image where the tomb window can be seen:
http://www.neilalien.com/doc/names/

(http://www.neilalien.com/doc/image/anomalyrueeisnerspirit.jpg)

Now, look at the model of the solar system sitting in Ozymandias' laboratory or whatever that room is, at the end of The Watchmen. I've put the pic at the end of this post since it's so large. I'm sure I've seen that shape (or glyph?) elsewhere before, like as one of the windows in Rotwang's house in Metropolis, but I'm going to have to flip through the film and put up a screencap if I find one.

So what exactly is going on here? I bet there's a lot more to be dug up on Moore, Lee, Kirby, Ditko, and the comics industry at the time. I look forward to your comments.

(http://wtw.lowtion.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/watchmen-12-27.jpg)




Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 26, 2009, 12:04:54 pm
Some pretty interesting stuff. Charton was aquired by D.C. Comics, not Marvel. They have pretty much killed off all the Charton heroes.

Captain Atom / Dr. Manhatten - Became the supervillian known as Monarch, who was presumably killed by Superboy Prime

Blue Beetle / Owl Man- Shot in the head by Maxwell Lord, deceased. Replaced by a Hispanic teenager

The Question / Rosharch- Dead of lung cancer. Replaced by Hispanic lesbian woman

Thunderbolt/ Ozzymandis - Seldom used

Nightshade - Seldom used

I like these characters, and it's a shame that DC has screwed them up as much as they have. There is nothing wrong with diversity in comics, but they could do this with new characters instead of replacing the old ones. And heroes dying and coming back to life has become a cliche. 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: TheCaliKid on February 26, 2009, 12:10:40 pm
Wonder Woman = 66

Look at the way it is drawn. Just like the Disney logo.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 26, 2009, 04:51:05 pm
In this clip, starting at 6:55 Wonder Woman is representing her home island of Themyscira at a global warming confernece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgt7Ve9FGf4

"If your pollution continues to affect my home, my mother is less likely to withdraw than she is to attempt a military solution."
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 27, 2009, 08:27:01 am
This interview with Alan Moore blew me away.

http://conspiracygrimoire.com/2009/02/22/alan-moore-on-magick/
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"I’ve realized that you have to be careful what you say and write, There is something spooky about writing. I read an interview with [cartoonist] Carol Lay recently where she mentioned that she had to take care not to draw anything too negative in her scripts because it would probably happen. Robert Crumb had agreed with her on this. He said that it’s really a kind of mind over matter thing, you draw something and then it happens, which is why Crumb always draws his sex fantasies. You’ll find yourself writing about events that haven’t happened yet, and at the same time, you’ll also find all kinds of eerie feedback between your text and life. When I started to notice that sort of stuff becoming predominant in my work, I realized I had a choice - I could either ignore it and assume that it is a product of my overtired perceptions, or I could explore it and see if there is anything interesting there."
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on February 27, 2009, 10:10:29 am
Chills.

Stephen King and Philip K. Dick have both commented on the strange powers of storytelling in the real world.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on March 13, 2009, 08:12:41 pm
Most of you will remember this cover.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2009/03/deathstroke-terminator.html

(http://i40.tinypic.com/9istbm.jpg)

Take a look at the barcode.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/110jbe0.jpg)

On the bar code, you can see the dates 1941 and 2001, with a 6 on both sides of them. Anyone familiar with bar codes knows that the sixes to the right of the center are symbolized by two thin lines. Two thin lines are also at the beginning, the center, and the end. The reason for these lines is supposedly so the scanner knows when to stop. If you take the two thin center lines and give them a value of 6, then you get 6, 1941, 6, 2001, 6. 1941 was the year Pearl Harbor was bombed, and of course our generation's Pearl Harbor occurred in 2001. Three sixes is the biblical mark of the beast.

The inside of the book deals with an altered race of humans called the "genetix", and Deathstroke"s crucifixtion and resurection. In one panel, the terrorist wars of 08 are referenced.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/157osnc.jpg)
Title: Re:Symbols and Messages...now rockband the vid game!!!!! ahhhhhh
Post by: therevolutionisinme on March 14, 2009, 02:43:07 am
if u have the xbox game rockband, please try and demonstrate what i am about to show u

modify ur character. add tattoos. use the default ones, look for one called AWESOMENESS/or awesome i forget.  modify it again, change the scale. take a good hard look at whats in front of u now...a pyramid w an all seeing eye and a serpent caduceus.

PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS! im horrified.

~colleen
therevoltutionisinmeyahoo.com
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Pupil on March 27, 2009, 12:58:32 am
Take a look at the barcode.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/110jbe0.jpg)

On the bar code, you can see the dates 1941 and 2001, with a 6 on both sides of them. Anyone familiar with bar codes knows that the sixes to the right of the center are symbolized by two thin lines. Two thin lines are also at the beginning, the center, and the end. The reason for these lines is supposedly so the scanner knows when to stop. If you take the two thin center lines and give them a value of 6, then you get 6, 1941, 6, 2001, 6. 1941 was the year Pearl Harbor was bombed, and of course our generation's Pearl Harbor occurred in 2001. Three sixes is the biblical mark of the beast.

Construction on the Pentagon also started September 11, 1941:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#Construction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#Construction)

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Contracts totaling $31,100,000 were finalized with McShain and the other contractors on September 11, 1941, and ground was broken for the Pentagon the same day.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: ThePicard on April 27, 2009, 02:56:14 pm
This interview with Alan Moore blew me away.

http://conspiracygrimoire.com/2009/02/22/alan-moore-on-magick/
"I’ve realized that you have to be careful what you say and write, There is something spooky about writing. I read an interview with [cartoonist] Carol Lay recently where she mentioned that she had to take care not to draw anything too negative in her scripts because it would probably happen. Robert Crumb had agreed with her on this. He said that it’s really a kind of mind over matter thing, you draw something and then it happens, which is why Crumb always draws his sex fantasies. You’ll find yourself writing about events that haven’t happened yet, and at the same time, you’ll also find all kinds of eerie feedback between your text and life. When I started to notice that sort of stuff becoming predominant in my work, I realized I had a choice - I could either ignore it and assume that it is a product of my overtired perceptions, or I could explore it and see if there is anything interesting there."





Stephen King and Philip K. Dick have both commented on the strange powers of storytelling in the real world.


Grant Morrison - comic book writer, novelist, playright, "counterculture" advocate - has also spoken of this concept, especially in regards to his comic "The Invisibles." I can't find the interview right now, but he essentially said that the things he was writing in his comic were starting to happen to him in real life.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on April 27, 2009, 10:12:37 pm
Sorry I've been gone a bit, I've had some computer problems. Right now, they aren't letting me post pics to this forum, but check out this post from my blog and feel free to upload the pics here.


http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2009/04/wonder-woman-vs-black-lightning.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on April 28, 2009, 08:38:37 am
Sorry I've been gone a bit, I've had some computer problems. Right now, they aren't letting me post pics to this forum, but check out this post from my blog and feel free to upload the pics here.


http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2009/04/wonder-woman-vs-black-lightning.html


(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/5y945s.jpg)


Glad you're back, Ford.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on April 28, 2009, 12:25:56 pm
NWO propaganda in 'The Watchmen'..

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2719667/the_watchmen_nwo_conspiracy_freemasons_illuminati/

The Plan: Kabbalah, Theosophy and 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuM8FFk2geA

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 09, 2009, 09:25:56 pm
Has it really been three months? I have had some computer problems, and I lost access to the forum for awhile. Here are some covers I have found recently.

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(http://i29.tinypic.com/oqj0hz.jpg)

The last one is the Empire State Building, but I included it because the plane flying close to it reminded me of the plane that flew into it in the forties.

(http://i25.tinypic.com/29w0dmo.jpg)

The building is unnamed, but the Superman character has an H on his chest. H is symbolic for two towers, joined at the hip. This one is from sometime in the nineties.

(http://i26.tinypic.com/143039i.jpg)

From the seventies. For some reason,there seems to be a lot of pre 911 comics with the WTC and planes in them.

(http://i30.tinypic.com/64l1r8.jpg)

This one is also from the nineties. (I think). The devil is rising above the towers, and 911 is the last three numbers in the bar code.

(http://i31.tinypic.com/2n7jl8x.jpg)

Published in 1979, this is extra spooky when you consider it was written by Marv Wolfman, who also wrote a Wonder Woman where she flew her invisable jet into the WTC.

(http://i26.tinypic.com/1zgdurs.jpg)

This one sent cold chills down my spine. The WTC is in the background, and the cover eerily reminds me of reports of human remains used in potholes in NYC.



Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Pupil on July 09, 2009, 09:46:28 pm
Has it really been three months? I have had some computer problems, and I lost access to the forum for awhile. Here are some covers I have found recently.

I've been wondering when I'd see the next post in this thread! :) I find it fascinating.

(http://i30.tinypic.com/64l1r8.jpg)

This one is also from the nineties. (I think). The devil is rising above the towers, and 911 is the last three numbers in the bar code.

This one is particularily creepy... the brooding, bleak sky, the wisp of cloud coming from approximately where the planes hit... and the way the Daredevil is posed as if he's attacking the building he's clinging to.  The barcode is a clincher...we've seen that in previous covers as well.  Great find, here.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on July 14, 2009, 10:51:25 pm
I've been wondering when I'd see the next post in this thread! :) I find it fascinating.

This one is particularily creepy... the brooding, bleak sky, the wisp of cloud coming from approximately where the planes hit... and the way the Daredevil is posed as if he's attacking the building he's clinging to.  The barcode is a clincher...we've seen that in previous covers as well.  Great find, here.

Me too.  Glad to see you back Ford.  This stuff is fascinating.   ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: kushfiend on July 15, 2009, 08:34:41 pm
great post(s) as always ford!  Keep em commin!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: TheCaliKid on July 15, 2009, 08:44:15 pm
Has it really been three months? I have had some computer problems, and I lost access to the forum for awhile. Here are some covers I have found recently.

 (http://i25.tinypic.com/2hs0ncm.jpg)

Wonder Woman of course being WW or 66.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 18, 2009, 09:24:21 am
Marvel Graphic Novel #17, From June, 1985.

(http://i27.tinypic.com/t9a42p.jpg)

I just found this a few minutes ago, and I am at a loss for words. The People running from the debris looks like it was taken straight from the news coverage of 911. The giant pharoah is very telling when you consider the Illuminati having possible roots that go back to ancient Egypt.

Something supernatural and strange is going on here.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: kushfiend on July 18, 2009, 09:44:07 am
Marvel Graphic Novel #17, From June, 1985.

(http://i27.tinypic.com/t9a42p.jpg)

I just found this a few minutes ago, and I am at a loss for words. The People running from the debris looks like it was taken straight from the news coverage of 911. The giant pharoah is very telling when you consider the Illuminati having possible roots that go back to ancient Egypt.

Something supernatural and strange is going on here.

woah!  That is one creepy comic book cover.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on July 18, 2009, 10:53:59 am
FORD:

Holy Cow, man!

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This is OVER THE TOP!


9/11 Commission Comic Book - Most Unique Remix Yet


A tip of the FGI hat to the 13th Floor blog of Governing Magazine for bringing the world news of an unusual but helpful remix of government information:

The 9/11 Report: A Graphic Adaptation (Hardcover)
by Sid Jacobson (Illustrator), Ernie Colon (Illustrator)

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/p011_01.jpg)
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/p011_02.jpg)

That's right, a comic book version of a government report. And one I think would be useful in libraries. Currently sold by Amazon, the graphic novel is being serialized by Slate. I'd strongly suggest looking at the Slate version if you have any doubt your library could use this item. According to CBS News, this version has been endorsed by the co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission:

    The 9/11 panel's co-chairs, Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton, have written a foreword for the graphic novel that praises the talented graphic artists of this edition for their close adherence to the findings, recommendations, spirit and tone of the original commission report.

Aside from its worth in explaining the findings of the 9/11 Commission, I think this volume will be useful in explaining the value of permanent no-fee access to fully functional government information. If the report had been done by a private group, a graphic novel would have been much harder to produce because it would be considered a "derivative work" under copyright law and the would be creators would have had to negoiate with the copyright holders who might have felt that a graphic novel would "demean" their serious work. If the report was crippled with (Digital Rights Management) DRM, the creators wouldn't have been able to copy and paste text from the report into their manuscript which would have stretched out its creation. And finally, what would have happened to their idea for a graphic novel if the 9/11 Commission report had been reclassified and/or taken off the web because the government was uncomfortable with its findings? Having public domain, non-DRM'd gov't information distributed in many places helped grow this graphic novel which will likely introduce more people to the report's findings. Will the future be as productive? Look through our issues pages and judge for yourself.

http://www.slate.com/features/911report/001.html (http://www.slate.com/features/911report/001.html)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on July 18, 2009, 12:19:42 pm
Another awesome find, Ford!

"The Living Monolith"...have you ever seen this?

(http://www.crystalinks.com/monolithz.jpg)


In Arthur C. Clarke's book, 2001, the monolith isn't a big black rectangle.  It is a pyramid inside of a spherical forcefield.  Kubrick and Clarke pretty much wrote the story together.  The book and movie were released almost simultaneously.  Kubrick's monolith is a movie screen turned on it's side with no image.  Regardless of it's shape, the monlith serves a purpose.  It is the spark of evolution.  It is the outside influence that gives man an original thought.  It first appears where communal fires would have been...the mouth of a cave.

Let's consider Clarke's monolith for one second.  A pyramid inside a sphere.  The two dimensional representation would be a triangle inside a circle.  In his book, Codex Magica, Texe Marrs quotes Alice Bailey as saying, "The symbol for theosophy is the triangle inside a circle with a point at the center."  Have any of you ever read Watchmen by Alan Moore, or seen the movie?

(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/picture0132.jpg)(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/picture0133.jpg)(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/fema_logo.jpg)

Ozy's front company is Pyramid and it's symbol is the triangle in the circle.  Stanley Kubrick, Arthur C Clarke, Alan Moore, Peter Hyams...these people are high priests of Mystery Babylon.  You can look at Kubrick's career and see the messages...fluoride, visual programming, secret societies...The Shining.  Clarke wrote a story called The Star.  In this story, explorers from earth come across a dead solar system.  They find the dark system because of a beacon.  At the beacon they find a vault...inside is the history of a civilization that lived on one of the planets in the system.  A beautiful civilization, who saw their star becoming a super nova and committed themselves to making this vault.  Long story short, the captain figures out that the Supernova exploded around the time of Jesus' birth...it was the star in the East.  The captain sees things as Clarke does, he mourns the birth of Christianity as horrible for both civilizations.

Clarke wrote another book called Childhood's End, where an alien race arrives to help us through our next evolution.  Basically, they are worried that the ignorant parents will kill their evolving children.  In the end we learn that these aliens are...black, with horns, leathery wings, and a tail.  They look like Lucifer.  In the BBC radio adaptation, the number of evolved children is stated as "500 million moving as one".  500 million happens to be the number on the Georgia Guidestones.

So, the circle and the pyramid is their symbol for evolution.  Their other symbol, the symbol of their God is the eye.

Childhood's End by Clarke...2001...Contact...Zeitgeist Addendum...Ad for History Channel Nostradamus 2012...The Day The Earth Stood Still...Knowing.
(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/2-2.jpg)(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/2001SpaceOdysseysyncedwithAdagiofor.jpg)(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/JodieFostersmysticalflight_Contact_.jpg)(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/ZeitgeistAddendum113_3__0001.jpg)(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/HISTORYpresentsNostradamus2012on140.jpg)(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/DayEarthStoodStill_7__0001.jpg)(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/Knowing_3__0001.jpg)

Look above the window/eye in the Knowing picture...looks a little like a square and compass...

(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/jmortimer37/Picture0142-1.jpg)


The Mystery Schools have been indoctrinating us for a long time.  They are programming us for their "change".
2012 hype is like viral marketing for the beliefs of Mystery Babylon.  Worshiping the Rising Sun...and it's Dark Nemesis. 
http://www.youtube.com/user/jmortimer37
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 18, 2009, 05:01:46 pm
I had heard of this hotel, but I had no idea what the monolith stood for until reading your post.

So, the millennium hotel was built in reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey, and it is a symbol of a jump in evolution. The hotel was finished in 1992, the comic book displayed was written around 1985.

Clarke was unchristian? Do you think he was in on something, or was he clairvoyant? I saw a discovery show that told of him writing about satelites in 1947.

If the comic book is clairvoyant, it would mean that some ancient Egyptian-WTC revelation is coming. My guess is the full exposure of the Illuminati.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on July 18, 2009, 05:19:18 pm
Ford:

What do you make of the 'Feds' coming out with the comic book propaganda?

Did some of their internet goons get a clue about you and others ... and maybe the Prison Planet Forum?

What do you know about Sid Jacobson (Illustrator), Ernie Colon (Illustrator)? Just another gig?

They must have been aware of the 911 synchronicity stuff.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 18, 2009, 05:51:42 pm
When I saw the picture you posted, for a split second I thought it was another pre-911 comic. I don't think it was done as a conscious response to this thread and Mercury's Garden, but scanning though google shows it in the first 40 results for "Comic Books, 911". It looks like it was written in 2006, about the same time this thread was started. (I think?)  (Edit, it was January 2008. It seems like it was longer ago than that.)

I've never heard of Sid Jacobson, but Ernie Colon is best known for his work on Richie Rich. He also did a comic in the eighties that I was fond of, "Arak, Son of Thunder". The plot is, in the days before Columbus sailed the ocean, Vikings rescued a young native American from the sea, and he spent his teenaged years among them. He eventually found himself in Europe where he battled dragons and wizards and such.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: akston on August 31, 2009, 09:12:12 am
Disney's buying Marvel.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=129501.0
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on September 07, 2009, 08:41:17 pm
I have been reading DC Comics summer event "Blackest Night". The plot of Blackest Night is that the dead are rising through the power of Black Lantern Rings. Former heroes like Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, and Elongated Man are returning as zombies to plague the DC Universe.

(http://i31.tinypic.com/10zsmmh.jpg)

Notice anything familiar? The Black Lantern Ring has a triangle inside a circle, which is a two dimensional representation of the pyramid in a sphere from the Arthur Clarke book 2001.  These things appear when mankind is about to recieve a jump in evolution.

(http://i29.tinypic.com/9i9tft.jpg)

Not only does it have a triangle inside a sphere, it has 5 black rectangles standing on the triangle! A black rectangle stood in for the pyramid in the sphere in the film 2001.

Also, from issue #1 we see a capstone inside an eye, which is the reverse of the great seal in which we see an eye inside a capstone.

(http://i31.tinypic.com/sc5oyd.jpg)
What does this all mean when you put it together? I don't know, but two of the dead heroes in the book are Aquaman and the Martian Manhunter, which could symbolic of the coming age of Aquarius and life on Mars.

Weird isn't it?
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on September 08, 2009, 09:20:12 am
Did you hear Alex interview Buzz Aldrin?  He talked about: Evolution, ancient Egypt, global catastrophe, and MONOLITHS!!

Indoctrination into the cult.  Going to the moon was one of the steps in 2001.  The second monolith was found on the moon.  Clarke and others believed that going to the moon would "change" humanity.  Aldrin also spoke about his "brother Masons" wanting him to take a flag to the moon.  He claimed that he didn't do it.

(http://justgetthere.us/blog/uploads/buzz-masonic-flag.jpg)

I find it interesting that Aldrin doesn't seem to want anyone else going to the moon.  I think he likes being one of only twelve men to ever walk on the moon.  Twelve Disciples of the New Age of Enlightenment.  Science becoming religion.  Priest/Scientists...just like in ancient Egypt...or alchemy.

Very interesting find, Ford.  I'm willing to bet you'll find this symbol elsewhere.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: JaredThaJa on December 16, 2009, 03:52:48 pm
I didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if this is already mentioned but.

Frank Miller who wrote the comics that 300 and Sin City are based on is most famous for a Batman Comic Book published in 1986 and 1987 that he wrote.

In the comic like many Gotham is loosely based on New York city.

In this one however there are 2 towers referred to as "Gotham's Twin Towers" they clearly base don The World Trade Center, they are given a much more Gothic look to fit Miller's style for that comic, but the comparison is still obvious right down to 1 having a thing sticking out of the top that the other doesn't.

The plot for first volume of the comic involved Two-Face as part of obsession with the number 2 attempting to blow up those towers using a Helicopter, but Batman of course stops him.

I think this to be yet another spooky 9/11 foreshadowing they gave us.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 16, 2009, 05:06:16 pm


A few more 911 'premonitions':

Photo Credits Here:
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/09/september-11-premonitions.html (http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/09/september-11-premonitions.html)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When we reflect upon the horrendous events of 9-11, we can't help but stumble upon different premonitions and uncanny coincidences that took place BEFORE any of this had happened. This article is an attempt to collect together all such instances of unintentional insight and creepy prediction.

We'll start with the most incredible of them all, courtesy U.S. Mail Service:

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4152/1119027378c3b17d8180.jpg)

~~~~~

An ad from Pakistan (!) Airlines, printed in 1979:

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2589/1358920962852878183do.jpg)

~~~~~

World Trade Center brochure, 1984:

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3849/1358975872771f9edc32o.jpg)

~~~~~

Science fiction became a terrible fact on this occasion: "Year's Best Science Fiction #2", ed. by Gardner Dozois, art by Thomas Kidd... (courtesy kdecay)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3667/1357743153a94f21841f.jpg)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1079/1358636108b17ec3886b.jpg)

~~~~~

Spanish comic named "Mortadelo y Filemon" shows it without any doubt... It originally appeared in 1993:

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5473/13577720838eb0fc4c8fo.jpg)

~~~~~

Another comic, appeared in 1984:

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9194/1361200831f5d18a5c48.jpg)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6508/136121420786f3508904.jpg)

~~~~~

General Electric advertisement for a fridge (2000):

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8923/13581461350ba5db36e9.jpg)

~~~~~

Spiderman, 1991:

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6900/13590849800028b63862.jpg)

~~~~~ O ~~~~~








Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: JaredThaJa on December 16, 2009, 05:34:47 pm
Holy $h!t that is blowing my mind.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on December 18, 2009, 12:55:22 am
Holy $h!t that is blowing my mind.

Whether that is foreshadowing, or conditioning, is up to one's point of view.


Creepy either way.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: StDoomsayer on December 18, 2009, 12:28:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psLE30BguPM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psLE30BguPM)
(http://i31.tinypic.com/10zsmmh.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psLE30BguPM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psLE30BguPM)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: flaming_red_pill on January 10, 2010, 11:26:22 pm
I was going through some old comics and found this from Firestorm #55 Jan 1 1987. It is very eerie.

It is kind of hard to read the words from the scan, so I will reprint it here.

First caption
"The asphalt had boiled off the cracked and broken pavement. Stone and steel have melted like wax down the front of the buildings. To lie in flaming pools of slag upon the blistered Earth."

Second caption
"Thousands of people had remained in those buildings during the battle, trusting to the stone and steel, trusting to their champions, the heroes gifted with powers and abilities far beyond the abilities of mortal mankind, to protect them and keep them safe from harm."

Third caption
"Of those people, not even ash remains."

I don't think comic book writers and artists are in on any kind of conspiracy but using a form of precog they probably don't even know they have.

I have wondered the same thing on many occasions. For example; Supreme Power: Contact, the Hellboy series, the Preacher series, and the Lucifer series all share a common theme -- that above our mortal selves, higher powers exist and are locked in eternal combat with one another, and our lives are scarred/changed/refined/ended where these battles intersect them. Where these four comics differ is in their presentation of the supernatural. In Supreme Power, almost all powers have a scientific explanation and can be exploited by the U.S. Government (and others) with near impunity. In Hellboy, destiny and the power of individual choice seem to be playing a precarious dance (very Tolkien-like personifications); God is hinted at often but not revealed as a player but rather a force akin to that in Star Wars. The plot is rife with secret societies of various kinds, but since they all seem to betray or exploit Hellboy in some fashion, I cannot say with certainty that Mike Mignola is trying to propagate a particular worldview other than agnostic mysticism or a vague brand of Christianity blended with pop Celtic myth. He outright opposes and demonizes Nazis yet seems unable to make the U.S.-Nazi connection in present (relevant) terms. USA is often portrayed as virtuous although prone to exploit the talented. Preacher is a more humanistic story that seeks to glorify the common man and restore the values of the Old South (lol?) and/or Wild West; however its Satanic ties are clear in that God is portrayed in hugely limited terms, in fact He appears to be an emotional retard and ultimately falls for a very simple trap at the hands of Satan's formerly human replacement. In Lucifer, New Age/Occult/Luciferian influence is absolutely obvious; Lucifer is portrayed as a pathologically ambitious aristo type who engages in human struggles both to his betterment and ruin, and Christ is predictably omitted altogether and replaced with various Messiah figures who always seem to fall short of their potential and leave a sour taste in the mouth.

I DO think that some of these authors demonstrate precognition, or at least, a masterful interpretation of archetypes and historical trends; however, personally I believe in divine inspiration, whether good or ill, and not necessarily an actual ability to see or read the future. Who really knows though, I haven't had the chance to talk to any of these guys except Mignola, and that didn't really count.  ::)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Brocke on January 20, 2010, 02:18:56 pm

Not a comic but the cover art is worthy of mention here.



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/The_Demolished_Man_first_edition.jpg)
Cover of first edition (hardcover) 1953

The Demolished Man is an American science fiction police procedural novel set in a future where telepathy is common, although much of its effectiveness is derived from one individual having greater telepathic skill than another. Written 30 years before the 1980s cyberpunk boom, the novel anticipates that sub-genre with its mix of plot elements such as powerful corporations, high-tech weaponry and the interplay between varying classes of society.
Cover of 1953 Panther paperback edition.

In the 24th Century, telepaths—"Espers", colloquially known as "peepers"—are completely integrated into all levels of society. Espers are classed according to their abilities: Class 3 Espers, the most common, can detect only conscious thoughts at the time they are formed and are often employed as secretaries or administrators; Class 2 Espers can dig more deeply, to the pre-conscious level, detecting subliminal patterns, epiphanies and tenuous associations, and they form the professional middle class—lawyers, managers. Class 1 Espers can detect all of the foregoing plus sub-conscious primitive urges, and they occupy only the highest levels of power in the police and government. All Espers can telepathically communicate amongst themselves, and the more powerful Espers can overwhelm their juniors. Telepathic ability is innate and heritable but can remain latent and undetected in untrained persons. Once recognized, however, natural aptitude can be developed through instruction and exercise. There is a guild to improve Espers’ telepathic skills, to set and enforce ethical conduct guidelines, and to increase the Esper population through intermarriage. Some telepaths object to the Esper Guild’s authoritarian control, however, and remain outside of it.

Ben Reich is the impetuous young owner of Monarch Enterprises, a commercial cartel that the Reich family has possessed for generations. Monarch Enterprises is in danger of bankruptcy, because of its chief rival, the D’Courtney Cartel, headed by the older Craye d’Courtney. Reich suffers recurring nightmares in which a "Man with No Face" persecutes him.

Reich contacts D'Courtney and proposes a merger of their concerns, but Reich's damaged psychological state causes him to misread D'Courtney's positive response as a refusal.[1] Frustrated and desperate, Reich determines to kill Craye d’Courtney. The presence of peepers has prevented the commission of murder for more than 70 years, so Reich devises an elaborate plan to ensure his freedom. If caught, Reich will certainly face “Demolition”, a terrible punishment described only at story's end.

Reich hires an Esper to “run interference” for him—hiding his murderous thoughts from any peepers present at the scene of the planned crime. Reich has many Class 2 and Class 3 Espers working for him, but for this task he must hire a top Class 1 Esper. Reich bribes Dr. Gus Tate, a prominent peeper psychiatrist, to be his mental bodyguard during the murder. Tate helps Reich, stealing information about D’Courtney’s whereabouts by peeping an unknowing colleague.

To further conceal his intentions, Reich visits a songwriter who teaches him a deceptively simple jingle: "'Tenser', said the Tensor; 'tension, apprehension, and dissension have begun'" that proves to be an earworm, so persistent and involving, that it blocks most Espers from properly peeping into Reich's mind. Reich secures a small flash grenade which can disrupt a victim's perception of time by destroying the eyes' rhodopsin, and an antique (20th-century) handgun, a rare object in a largely non-violent society. Reich is also advised how to replace the bullet in the handgun's ammunition with a gelatin capsule filled with water, in order to eliminate ballistics evidence.

Influencing a socialite into playing a game of Sardines at a party, Reich executes his plan during the game, but at the moment he shoots D'Courtney, D’Courtney’s young daughter, Barbara, witnesses the murder and runs away. She is later found, suffering severe psychological shock that renders her speechless.

Police Prefect Lincoln Powell is a Class 1 Esper, a highly talented man expected to become the next president of the Esper Guild. Powell discovers Reich through some cleverly disguised peeping. However, Reich’s Esper attorney is present at that encounter, noting that telepathically-gathered evidence is legally inadmissible in court. This obliges Powell to assemble the murder case with traditional police procedures and to establish motive, opportunity and method.

Both sides center on finding and questioning—or, in Reich's case, silencing—Barbara d’Courtney. Although Reich finds her first, he is unable to kill her; Powell rescues her but loses Reich. Powell's pursuit traverses the Solar System, as Reich escapes the police and a series of mysterious assassination attempts with a harmonic gun which kills by sonic vibration. Reich fails to murder his chief of communications, and Powell succeeds in abducting him.

Powell has already established opportunity, and eventually method through discovery of a tiny fragment of gelatin in the body. However, just as Powell believes that he has wrapped the case up entirely, the interrogation of Reich's communications chief yields results—D'Courtney had accepted the merger proposal. That dashes Powell's case; as he remarks, no court in the Solar System would believe Reich murdered D'Courtney when D'Courtney was needed alive for the merger (which would save Reich and give him all the power and wealth he dreamed of) to succeed.

Reich's tortured mental state is unknown to him, and so Powell does not suspect that the motive for the murder was something other than financial. Powell recognizes that the forces behind Reich’s crime are greater than anticipated. He asks the help of every Esper in attempting to arrest Reich, channeling their collective mental energy through Powell in the dangerous telepathic procedure "Mass Cathexis Measure"; Powell narrowly succeeds.

Reich is revealed to be the illegitimate son of Craye d’Courtney—Reich's hatred of him was probably because of his latent, telepathic knowledge of that fact. Reich's knowledge isn’t explicitly stated, but Barbara, Reich’s half-sister, is herself revealed to be a peeper. The assassination attempts on Reich were carried out by Reich himself, as a result of his disturbed state. Once arrested and convicted, Reich is sentenced to the dreaded Demolition—the stripping away of his memories and the upper layers of his personality, emptying his mind for re-education. This 24th-century society uses psychological demolition because it recognizes the social value of strong personalities able to successfully defy the law, seeking the salvaging of positive traits in ridding the person of the evil consciousness of the criminal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demolished_Man
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Eschatonic on January 22, 2010, 11:03:12 am
There have been a couple of posts about Watchmen on this thread - a brilliant comic. As others have noted there is a ton of symbolism in this book. There's lots of occult imagery, but not as much in Moore's later works I think. One interesting thing I found in it right at the beginning of the book though was:
(http://eschatonic.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/watchmen-at-midnight2.jpg?w=394&h=410)

compared with...

(http://eschatonic.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/baphomet2.png)

and ...

(http://eschatonic.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/rws_tarot_15_devil.jpg?w=162&h=283)

I wrote a short piece about how this symbolism relates to the events in the story here: http://eschatonic.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/occult-and-esoteric-themes-in-alan-moore%E2%80%99s-watchmen-part-1-rorschach-and-hermeticism/ Basically, the hermetic symbolism in the Baphomet image and some of the symbolism of the devil tarot card (at least from what little I have learnt about these two things) seemed to be a good match for some elements of Rorscharch's character in the book.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Volitzar on January 23, 2010, 03:39:48 pm
Has it really been three months? I have had some computer problems, and I lost access to the forum for awhile. Here are some covers I have found recently.

 (http://i25.tinypic.com/2hs0ncm.jpg)

(http://i29.tinypic.com/oqj0hz.jpg)

The last one is the Empire State Building, but I included it because the plane flying close to it reminded me of the plane that flew into it in the forties.

(http://i25.tinypic.com/29w0dmo.jpg)

The building is unnamed, but the Superman character has an H on his chest. H is symbolic for two towers, joined at the hip. This one is from sometime in the nineties.

(http://i26.tinypic.com/143039i.jpg)

From the seventies. For some reason,there seems to be a lot of pre 911 comics with the WTC and planes in them.

(http://i30.tinypic.com/64l1r8.jpg)

This one is also from the nineties. (I think). The devil is rising above the towers, and 911 is the last three numbers in the bar code.

(http://i31.tinypic.com/2n7jl8x.jpg)

Published in 1979, this is extra spooky when you consider it was written by Marv Wolfman, who also wrote a Wonder Woman where she flew her invisable jet into the WTC.

(http://i26.tinypic.com/1zgdurs.jpg)

This one sent cold chills down my spine. The WTC is in the background, and the cover eerily reminds me of reports of human remains used in potholes in NYC.





How is this occult ??
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: ekimdrachir on January 23, 2010, 05:17:58 pm
whoa
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Volitzar on January 24, 2010, 12:39:41 am
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2hs0ncm.jpg)

(http://i29.tinypic.com/oqj0hz.jpg)

I meant with these 2 ??

Wonder Woman and the occult ??  Clarify please ??
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on January 24, 2010, 01:21:47 am
The thread isn't only about the occult.  It started with Ford showing covers where the twin towers were destroyed or other 9/11 foreshadowing. 

The W in the first one intersects the towers close to where they were hit.  He explained why he included the second one in his original post.

Mystery solved.

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on February 06, 2010, 07:42:24 pm
Sorry for the long absence, my com crashed.

In the first Wonder woman cover, the w does intersect where the planes hit. V is a symbmol for 6, so W is actually 66 because it is two Vs. The ww is imposed one on top of the other, so we have 6666. Take away one 6 and we have 666.

The second cover shows a skyscraper collapsing as a jet flys mysteriously close.

In the Casper cover, the superhero has a H on his chest. Think of the H as a symbol of two towers connected.

The Superman cover shows the expanding earth theory, and again, a jet is flying by the towers.

The Daredevel cover has 911 in the barcode as a Devil rises above the towers. The cloud looks like black smoke, and there is paper debris flying everywhere.

The Marvel two in one shows the WTC ablaze

The ghost cover shows human remains rising from cement used to fix the street, while in the shadow of the two towers.

Occult? I don't know. But it is damn eerie.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: nothinghurt on May 02, 2010, 11:35:44 pm
i dont know if this has been posted yet but this is a good one.
Norse God , Billionaire industrialist , symbol of America , symbol of Britain , Spider symbol , Brother Voodoo is doing the devil hands sign , the female characters nipples are in plain view.
(http://theheroicage.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/The-Heroic-Age-Age-of-Heroes-01x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: flaming_red_pill on May 03, 2010, 09:52:38 pm
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Joker_as_Iranian_Ambassador.jpg)

(http://sjennings.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/joker_iran.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ps49qjS_6Nc/R-HUkDaHvwI/AAAAAAAAAzQ/XxuZvPjsx-o/s400/IranianAmabassador.jpg)

(http://crossover.bureau42.com/ayajoker2.jpg)

(http://www.lambiek.net/artists/a/aparo_jim/aparo_jim.jpg)

(http://graphicworlds.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/batman-a-death-in-the-family_page_089_image_0001.jpg)

(http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/boys34-cov-robertson.jpg)



Quote
Batman: A Death in the Family ran in issues #426-429 (1988-89); fans and even non-fans recall the story as the one wherein Robin (Jason Todd, not Dick Grayson) died.

Along the way his killer, the Joker, becomes the Iranian Ambassador to the United Nations. Comics have often been used as propaganda, and the teaming of DC's most deranged villain with the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini reflects the perception of many westerners

http://crossover.bureau42.com/zayatollahjoker.html


Quote
DC Comics, aware of Jason Todd's unpopularity with fans and perhaps inspired by references to a dead Jason in Frank Miller's non-canonical futuristic comic series, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, set up a 1-900 number one-dollar hotline giving callers the ability to vote for or against Jason's death. The calls were made after the publication of the issue in which Jason and his mother are trapped in the warehouse.

Over 10,000 votes were cast, a narrow majority voted to kill Jason, and DC published A Death in the Family to massive media attention. Years later, O'Neil would admit hundreds of votes in the "Jason Dies" line came from a single person, adding a large degree of uncertainty to the honesty of results regarding a poll designed to determine the character's popularity. "I heard it was one guy, who programmed his computer to dial the thumbs down number every ninety seconds for eight hours, who made the difference", O'Neil said in a Newsarama interview conducted alongside writer Judd Winick during the "Under The Hood" arc.

Other notable incidents include Batman punching Superman, and treating villains a lot more violently than usual. Aspects of his moral character even come into question: Although the Joker has been responsible for dozens if not hundreds of deaths, it is only now that Batman, for personal reasons, resolves to go beyond his moral code and seriously considers killing his nemesis: "his insanity always got him a stay of execution. But no more. Jason's dead."

The story does raise a number of contemporary political and social issues, such as the Lebanese Civil War, the Arab-Israeli conflict, the Ethiopia famine, corruption and the handling of rogue states. When he goes to Lebanon, Wayne uses a fake Northern Irish passport, the province being synonymous with terrorism at the time.

Although the theme of the Joker getting hold of an actual nuclear missile is somewhat fantastic, the smuggling of nuclear material is an issue that has been taken very seriously in recent years.

The Joker attributes his financial state to "Reaganomics", seemingly blaming then-president Ronald Reagan (though in fact it is because the authorities have stripped him of his assets due to his criminal nature).

Blatant allusions to the Iran-Contra Affair are also made, inclusive of the Joker's sale of a cruise missile to Arab extremists with Israel as their target.

Also, Ayatollah Khomeini makes a brief but important appearance, appointing the Joker as a UN ambassador for Iran. However, the Joker's appointment as UN ambassador was later retconned to the fictional nation of Qurac, probably to update the overall story arc.

Overall, the depiction of Batman in a rare emotional state, the murder of a very famous superhero, and the phone-voting element have allowed A Death in the Family to remain a significant milestone in American comics.

IGN Comics ranked A Death in the Family #15 on a list of the 25 greatest Batman graphic novels.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Death_in_the_Family_%28Batman_story_arc%29
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on May 30, 2011, 12:22:57 pm

A few more 911 'premonitions':

Photo Credits Here:
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/09/september-11-premonitions.html (http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/09/september-11-premonitions.html)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When we reflect upon the horrendous events of 9-11, we can't help but stumble upon different premonitions and uncanny coincidences that took place BEFORE any of this had happened. This article is an attempt to collect together all such instances of unintentional insight and creepy prediction.

We'll start with the most incredible of them all, courtesy U.S. Mail Service:

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4152/1119027378c3b17d8180.jpg)

~~~~~

An ad from Pakistan (!) Airlines, printed in 1979:

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2589/1358920962852878183do.jpg)

~~~~~

World Trade Center brochure, 1984:

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3849/1358975872771f9edc32o.jpg)

~~~~~

Science fiction became a terrible fact on this occasion: "Year's Best Science Fiction #2", ed. by Gardner Dozois, art by Thomas Kidd... (courtesy kdecay)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3667/1357743153a94f21841f.jpg)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1079/1358636108b17ec3886b.jpg)

~~~~~

Spanish comic named "Mortadelo y Filemon" shows it without any doubt... It originally appeared in 1993:

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5473/13577720838eb0fc4c8fo.jpg)

~~~~~

Another comic, appeared in 1984:

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9194/1361200831f5d18a5c48.jpg)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6508/136121420786f3508904.jpg)

~~~~~

General Electric advertisement for a fridge (2000):

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8923/13581461350ba5db36e9.jpg)

~~~~~

Spiderman, 1991:

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6900/13590849800028b63862.jpg)

~~~~~ O ~~~~~











Well, since I'm revisiting old threads - I think it high time that some of the newer members have a look through this.  To me, just shows that the 9-11 FF was planned YEARS upon YEARS in advance.  In my humble opinion, this is one of the most telling threads on this forum.

Or, maybe it's all just an eerie coincidence.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Dewk on May 30, 2011, 12:41:55 pm
   the egyptian symbol for Sirius is an obalisk (tower), star(pentagon) and a dome. where was flight 93 going in washington it ws headed for that building with the dome on it. you can see it here http://www.mt.net/~watcher/havingmuldersbaby.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: iks83 on May 31, 2011, 12:25:04 am
Pictures in comics don't prove that 9/11 was planned years in advance. It just tells you that hitting a famous landmark with planes or other catastrophes isn't a very novel idea. I mean seriously as if no one before 9/11 would be able to come up with a story where the towers are getting destroyed.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on June 06, 2011, 12:26:11 am
Pictures in comics don't prove that 9/11 was planned years in advance. It just tells you that hitting a famous landmark with planes or other catastrophes isn't a very novel idea. I mean seriously as if no one before 9/11 would be able to come up with a story where the towers are getting destroyed.

Wasn't it Bushie who said something to the effect that "We just never conceived that this could be a threat"?   ;D ;D ;D

It my opinion, it was planned years in advance.  The first 'bombing' was a practice run. (1993?)  Wasn't the Illuminati card game released in 1995?  That is 6 years before 9-11.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on August 06, 2011, 10:52:23 pm
Rick vietch, who I remember for his great run on Alan Moore's Swamp thing, is a 9-11 truther and is producing a comic that is coming out around 9-11-11.

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/21/the-big-lie-911-truther-comic-book_n_881108.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on August 06, 2011, 11:22:19 pm
Sounds pretty cool...good to hear from you, Ford!!
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: ManchurianDisclosure on October 05, 2011, 03:14:57 pm
Marvel Comics has been a Psy Ops and propaganda tool used by the British Monarchy's nongovernmental intelligence organization that is religiously based in the Anglican Church and is highly fundamental widely known by the Latin word "Illuminati", the holy language of the Anglican Church.  The religious fundamentalism of this secret intelligence organization, the "Illminati" in the Anglican Church does things that Muslim Extremists dont do or could even imagine on a massive scale.  You can attribute their overwhelming power to the fact that they do the kind of dirt and filth no one else would do ever imagine doing.

Marvels Comics also accomplishes and is a channel for Psychological Infrastructural Development and Design, this is architecturaling or engineering the psychological framework of what people do, it is very advanced, complicated, and involves many disciplines and areas of study. 
   A simple analogy to help you ponder this concept is "psychological reigns" like a reigns for horse riding that gives a person control over the horse to perform a task.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: attietewd on October 29, 2011, 04:28:57 am
very interesting.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on June 02, 2012, 09:43:28 am


First of all, I apologize for some of my past posts
in this great thread ... my IMAGE SHACK account got
hijacked and I had to close it. One day maybe I will
have time to re-do those images.   >:(

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JUST ANOTHER NWO AGENDA TAKING SHAPE RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES


Green Lantern relaunched as
brave, mighty — and gay


Parallel Earth version of iconic superhero is part of a trend of gay comics characters

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/120601-gay-green-lantern-8agrid-6x2.jpg)
Alan Scott, the alter ego of Green Lantern on a parallel Earth, is revealed to be gay in the second issue of DC Comics' "Earth 2."




By Matt Moore
 
updated 6/1/2012 8:39:54 AM ET


Green Lantern, one of DC Comics' oldest and enduring heroes no matter what parallel earth he's on, is serving as a beacon for the publisher again, this time as a proud, mighty and openly gay hero.

The change is revealed in the pages of the second issue of "Earth 2" out next week, and comes on the heels of what has been an expansive year for gay and lesbian characters in the pages of comic books from Archie to Marvel and others.

( Story: Gay characters take center stage in comic books: ~~~~.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44577649/ns/today-books/t/gay-characters-take-center-stage-comic-books/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44577649/ns/today-books/t/gay-characters-take-center-stage-comic-books/)  )

But purists and fans note: This Green Lantern is not the emerald galactic space cop who was, and is, part of the Justice League and has had a history rich in triumph and tragedy.

Instead, said James Robinson, who writes the new series, Alan Scott is the retooled version of the classic Lantern whose first appearance came in the pages of "All-American Comics" No. 16 in July 1940.

Green Lantern is just the latest comic book character to be revealed as gay. Other examples include Archie Comics' Kevin Keller and DC's Batwoman.

And his being gay is not part of some wider story line meant to be exploited or undone down the road, either.
"This was my idea," Robinson explained this week, noting that before DC relaunched all its titles last summer, Alan Scott had a son who was gay.

But given that "Earth 2" features retooled and rebooted characters, Scott is not old enough to have a grown son.

( Story: DC do-over: Superman and friends start over from scratch: ~~>
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44330357/ns/today-books/t/dc-do-over-superman-friends-start-over-scratch/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44330357/ns/today-books/t/dc-do-over-superman-friends-start-over-scratch/) )

"By making him younger, that son was not going to exist anymore," Robinson said.

"He doesn't come out. He's gay when we see him in issue two," which is due out Wednesday. "He's fearless and he's honest to the point where he realized he was gay and he said 'I'm gay.'"


( Story: Archie Comics unveils gay character: ~~>
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36739351/ns/today-books/t/archie-comics-unveils-gay-character/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36739351/ns/today-books/t/archie-comics-unveils-gay-character/) )


MORE: ~~~> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47644496 (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47644496)

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on June 10, 2012, 12:46:20 pm
I haven't been here in a while.  I got kind of busy with work and let's face it, I kind of ran out of things to talk about. I saw this yesterday.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/globalist-social-engineers-subliminally-prepared-the-public-for-911.html


Alex has read my blog or at least seen this thread.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: 37 on July 24, 2012, 03:09:04 pm
(http://www.zengardner.com/wp-content/uploads/r620-7287416e80922620fccb76fdf86fa724.jpg)

In ‘Dark Knight Rises’ shooting at Aurora theater, eerie echo of  seminal 1986 comic by Frank Miller
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dark-knight-shooting-aurora-theater-eerie-echo-seminal-1986-comic-frank-miller-article-1.1118708

Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 26, 2012, 07:45:41 pm
Bruce Wayne's parents were slain outside of a movie theater. There was a Flash comic a few years ago where a gunman opened fire.

Found it. Flash Volume 2 #30, 1989


 
Quote
Mary West argues with her son Wally about his choice in women as he prepares for a date with Connie Noleski. As he is leaving, he is greeted by Joan Garrick outside the door. She takes him out for a snack and encourages him to move away from his mother, suggesting her hometown, Keystone City.
 
Meanwhile, Mary uses Wally's JLE Transporter to travel to Rome for some shopping.
 
Connie waits outside a movie theater for Wally, frustrated at him when he finally arrives for his tardiness. During the movie, everything freezes around Wally, and he realizes that he has kicked into superspeed when gunshots were fired. He changes into the Flash and begins looking for the gunman.
 
In Rome, Mary has some wine in an outdoor restaurant patio, where she is watched by an Italian man. Entranced by her, he asks for a dance, but is interrupted when a waiter attempts to stab him. Mary runs after the attacker. When he attempts to stab her, the Italian man knocks him out from behind and thanks her for her help.
 
Wally manages to find all the bullets, which are still appearing to him to be hanging in midair, and collect them before they can harm anyone in the theater. He easily apprehends the gunman.
 
The Italian introduces himself to Mary as Antonio Verdi of Interpol. He tells her that the man who attacked them was an international jewel thief he had been pursuing, and profusely thanks her for her part in bringing him to justice.
 
Being shot at finally convinces Wally to move away from New York, and Mary is relieved when he says that he will leave the JLE Transporter with her.


http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_Vol_2_30
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on July 29, 2012, 11:17:29 pm
Looks like this thread could use a bump or two.

 ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: AgentOrange on January 22, 2013, 03:21:08 pm
a little off topic but here's an example of some Hitler rug biting as mentioned by Alex on today's broadcast

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5udp5sZJl1rx2kjeo1_400.png)

From Wonder Woman #2 (1941)
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on April 14, 2013, 01:55:25 am
I was going through some old comics and found this from Firestorm #55 Jan 1 1987. It is very eerie.
(http://i31.tinypic.com/307pzqv.jpg)
It is kind of hard to read the words from the scan, so I will reprint it here.

First caption
"The asphalt had boiled off the cracked and broken pavement. Stone and steel have melted like wax down the front of the buildings. To lie in flaming pools of slag upon the blistered Earth."

Second caption
"Thousands of people had remained in those buildings during the battle, trusting to the stone and steel, trusting to their champions, the heroes gifted with powers and abilities far beyond the abilities of mortal mankind, to protect them and keep them safe from harm."

Third caption
"Of those people, not even ash remains."

I don't think comic book writers and artists are in on any kind of conspiracy but using a form of precog they probably don't even know they have.


BUMP
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Ford on July 10, 2013, 07:59:06 pm
(http://www.zengardner.com/wp-content/uploads/r620-7287416e80922620fccb76fdf86fa724.jpg)

In ‘Dark Knight Rises’ shooting at Aurora theater, eerie echo of  seminal 1986 comic by Frank Miller
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dark-knight-shooting-aurora-theater-eerie-echo-seminal-1986-comic-frank-miller-article-1.1118708



Check this out, it is a mind blower.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2013/07/dark-knight-movie-shooting-forshadowed.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on July 10, 2013, 11:43:47 pm
Check this out, it is a mind blower.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2013/07/dark-knight-movie-shooting-forshadowed.html

sorry, don't think it is pre-cog.  Maybe storylines were 'suggested' to them.  Not in an obvious way....but still.

And this is totally one of my fave threads.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: MarkM on September 03, 2013, 10:59:36 am
Not being a comic book reader, I can point only one cultist analogy. Comic books usually are about superheroes and superheroes always fight evil. It is about pure violence, evil and good exist there only to fight each other. Have you seen a superhero, let's say, building a new house (not any lair, or, a base of operations)? Have you seen them all smashing houses like toys (shouldn't there be people) that will be rebuilt for the next issue/episode? The message is life based on violence.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on September 11, 2013, 04:36:12 pm
MEMORIAL BUMP.

For the nubes - please start at page 1.  And prepare to be amazed.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Al Bundy on August 25, 2014, 09:06:39 am
I haven't been here in a while.  I got kind of busy with work and let's face it, I kind of ran out of things to talk about. I saw this yesterday.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/globalist-social-engineers-subliminally-prepared-the-public-for-911.html


Alex has read my blog or at least seen this thread.

Globalist social engineers subliminally prepared the public for 911.html ? Maybe. Watch 3:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r9arpSx5R0http://
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on July 13, 2016, 12:54:23 pm
Globalist social engineers subliminally prepared the public for 911.html ? Maybe. Watch 3:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r9arpSx5R0http://

This just needs another BUMP, for old times sake.  I LOVE this thread. 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jackson Holly on July 13, 2016, 02:51:16 pm
^^^

... I posted this a few days ago in another
thread ... but it works here as well   8)

~~~~

... MARVEL COMICS ... or should I say SJW COMICS ...
is hitting the skids. NOBODY wants to read their
stupid CRAP! Crazy Libtard World!


"... there’s trouble on the horizon, not just for the studio’s
core intellectual property, but the creative integrity
of its work, too. Serves them right."



Readers Are Abandoning Marvel Comics After
Social Justice Invasion. Can You Blame Them?

CHARLIE NASH  7 Jul 2016

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/maxresdefault_2.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/maxresdefault_2.jpg.html)

“Thor? Are you kidding me? I’m supposed to call you Thor?” Marvel villain The Absorbing Man yells at the new “female Thor” during a vicious street brawl in an issue published last year. “Damn feminists ruining everything!”

The dialogue mirrored most sane reader’s thoughts during the issue, but we’re not all monsters. We are just loyal, long-time readers who are sick of our favorite characters being butchered by nose-ringed lesbians for the sake of diversity, and at the apparent expense not just of dialogue, story and creativity but also, it now appears, the commercial success of Marvel’s comic books line.

A villain based on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is to appear in “Spider-Gwen Annual #1” this week. The villain, who goes by the name of MODAAK will be seen rounding up “foreign filth”, complete with Mexico jibes, “small hands” jokes, and even Trump’s signature catchphrase “Make America Great Again.”

In one scene, a female Captain America can be seen hitting MODAAK with her [sic] shield before the villain can complete his “Make America Great Again” catchphrase.

Quote
“We’re seeing the worst falloff of Marvel and DC sales in the store’s 38-year history,” complained one comic book store owner in an industry forum. “Both companies are losing established readers who no longer feel that the company’s output reflects the sort of comics they enjoy.

“For the first time in store history, yesterday’s Marvel FOCs saw us ordering single digits on more than half of the line items in the Marvel section.”

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/07/marvel-social-justice-insanity/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RELATED:

‘Star Trek Beyond’ Outs John Cho’s Sulu as Gay Adoptive Father
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/07/07/star-trek-gets-first-openly-gay-character/

Quote
The Star Trek franchise will get its first-ever openly gay
character when Starship Excelsior captain Hikaru Sulu is
revealed to be gay in the upcoming film Star Trek Beyond.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Jacob Law on July 15, 2016, 07:25:25 am
It is amazing how the fibers of deception has infiltrated every single part of life in this world. When you start to awake to it you realize it is all a hoax, the biggest that has blow me away is the flat earth; OMG, it is all been a lie through all my education, please don't believe me but please look into it, the so called curvature of the earth math alone disproves the lie, the North star disproves the lie, and difference from the Artic and Antarctica show the lie, plus the many other proofs.
We have been lied to all our live, NASA is nothing but a propaganda machine that sucks money out of us, using CGI *(computer generated images) to fool the masses. 
Please I know it sound crazy, but this will not go away because it is the truth the earth is a incase flat plain (flat earth) the Antarctic circle of ice around us and the sun and moon circles above, the rest of the consequence of this revelation will do nothing but blow your mind. 
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: stockholmimmune on July 16, 2016, 03:59:43 pm
^^^

... I posted this a few days ago in another
thread ... but it works here as well   8)

~~~~

... MARVEL COMICS ... or should I say SJW COMICS ...
is hitting the skids. NOBODY wants to read their
stupid CRAP! Crazy Libtard World!


"... there’s trouble on the horizon, not just for the studio’s
core intellectual property, but the creative integrity
of its work, too. Serves them right."



Readers Are Abandoning Marvel Comics After
Social Justice Invasion. Can You Blame Them?

CHARLIE NASH  7 Jul 2016

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/maxresdefault_2.jpg) (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/evinyl/media/PrisonPlanetForum/FORUM/maxresdefault_2.jpg.html)

“Thor? Are you kidding me? I’m supposed to call you Thor?” Marvel villain The Absorbing Man yells at the new “female Thor” during a vicious street brawl in an issue published last year. “Damn feminists ruining everything!”

The dialogue mirrored most sane reader’s thoughts during the issue, but we’re not all monsters. We are just loyal, long-time readers who are sick of our favorite characters being butchered by nose-ringed lesbians for the sake of diversity, and at the apparent expense not just of dialogue, story and creativity but also, it now appears, the commercial success of Marvel’s comic books line.

A villain based on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is to appear in “Spider-Gwen Annual #1” this week. The villain, who goes by the name of MODAAK will be seen rounding up “foreign filth”, complete with Mexico jibes, “small hands” jokes, and even Trump’s signature catchphrase “Make America Great Again.”

In one scene, a female Captain America can be seen hitting MODAAK with her [sic] shield before the villain can complete his “Make America Great Again” catchphrase.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/07/marvel-social-justice-insanity/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RELATED:

‘Star Trek Beyond’ Outs John Cho’s Sulu as Gay Adoptive Father
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/07/07/star-trek-gets-first-openly-gay-character/

Yea I've been having some serious issues with Marvel about this, not to sure if I want to boycott them.  It's also maybe not a good idea to totally boycott them so you still know what propaganda they are trying to promote.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: White Rose Sophie on July 16, 2016, 04:24:53 pm
However, a boycott will hit them in the pocketbook, which is the only thing they would understand.  In my opinion, they are being TOLD what to write and therefore it is of course, someone else's agenda and not market forces that are driving their ridiculous new narratives.  The demographics for comics have always been young males.....why on earth would they be interested in a female "THOR"....or Captainette America?  They are not, no more than I was interested in a female GHOSTBUSTERS. UGH.  It is conditioning women to become gross, masculine HARPIES and conditioning men to accept their subservient role in society and seek elsewhere for 'companionship' and sex.  IT's sad when gay men are more womanly than the women nowadays.
Title: Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
Post by: Al Bundy on July 16, 2016, 05:40:57 pm
However, a boycott will hit them in the pocketbook, which is the only thing they would understand.  In my opinion, they are being TOLD what to write and therefore it is of course, someone else's agenda and not market forces that are driving their ridiculous new narratives.  The demographics for comics have always been young males.....why on earth would they be interested in a female "THOR"....or Captainette America?  They are not, no more than I was interested in a female GHOSTBUSTERS. UGH.  It is conditioning women to become gross, masculine HARPIES and conditioning men to accept their subservient role in society and seek elsewhere for 'companionship' and sex.  IT's sad when gay men are more womanly than the women nowadays.

Yes. Hit them in the pocketbook.  8)