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Title: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 06, 2011, 09:33:29 am
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_AFGHANISTAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-06-06-27-19


KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- A military helicopter crashed in eastern Afghanistan, killing 31 U.S. special operation troops and seven Afghan commandos, the country's president said Saturday. An American official said it was apparently shot down, in the deadliest single incident for American forces in the decade-long war.

The Taliban claimed they downed the helicopter with rocket fire while it was taking part in a raid on a house where insurgents were gathered in the province of Wardak late Friday. It said wreckage of the craft was strewn at the scene.

NATO confirmed the overnight crash took place and that there "was enemy activity in the area." But it said it was still investigating the cause and conducting a recovery operation at the site. It did not release details or casualty figures.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 06, 2011, 11:04:17 am



  CNN reporting that mostly Navy Seals died.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chris jones on August 06, 2011, 11:11:13 am
 My sympathy for their family's..
  Apparently shot down has been reported, that doesn't get there, 32 American sons are dead and the DOD says apparently.
  No reported groundfire, radio contact, blue team pickup, ZIP.. I don't like that one FK bit.
  All seals, these men are not the average grunt, just what kind of mission were they on?
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Jordan on August 06, 2011, 11:20:04 am
I have news for you --- those are members of seal team 6 .. same ones that "got Osama" ;)
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Jordan on August 06, 2011, 11:22:20 am
AP sources: Crash kills members of SEAL Team 6

WASHINGTON -- The Associated Press has learned that more than 20 Navy SEALs from the unit that killed Osama bin Laden were among those lost in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

The operators from SEAL Team Six were flown by a crew of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. That's according to one current and one former U.S. official. Both spoke on condition of anonymity because families are still being notified of the loss of their loved ones.

One source says the team was thought to include 22 SEALs, three Air Force air controllers, seven Afghan Army troops, a dog and his handler, and a civilian interpreter, plus the helicopter crew.

The sources thought this was the largest single loss of life ever for SEAL Team Six, known as the Naval Special Warfare Development Group.
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/08/06/3820793/ap-sources-crash-kills-members.html

Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Jordan on August 06, 2011, 11:23:06 am
Alex called that one ... I wonder how many military personal remember him saying that now? I wonder how the rest will die? Time to come forward guys...
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: swain on August 06, 2011, 11:23:51 am
hmm..

AP sources: Crash kills members of SEAL Team 6
By KIMBERLY DOZIER and LOLITA C. BALDOR
Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Associated Press has learned that more than 20 Navy SEALs from the unit that killed Osama bin Laden were among those lost in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

The operators from SEAL Team Six were flown by a crew of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. That's according to one current and one former U.S. official. Both spoke on condition of anonymity because families are still being notified of the loss of their loved ones.

One source says the team was thought to include 22 SEALs, three Air Force air controllers, seven Afghan Army troops, a dog and his handler, and a civilian interpreter, plus the helicopter crew.

The sources thought this was the largest single loss of life ever for SEAL Team Six, known as the Naval Special Warfare Development Group.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_AFGHANISTAN_SEALS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-06-12-07-17 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_AFGHANISTAN_SEALS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-06-12-07-17)
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Nile on August 06, 2011, 11:43:35 am
I have news for you --- those are members of seal team 6 .. same ones that "got Osama" ;)

I read this and literally threw my hands in the air  >:(
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Freeski on August 06, 2011, 11:52:15 am
Cleaners?
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: feeditup on August 06, 2011, 11:56:38 am
unreal
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Effie Trinket on August 06, 2011, 11:57:04 am
Look at these bullshit comments:

"Let the conspiracy theories begin..."

"NWIH was this a lucky shot. These guys were ambushed. Afghan has operatives that knew of the troop movement and passed it to their brothers on the otherside. Payback for Osama."

It's laughably obvious that the elite murdered them so they could never talk even if they wanted to.  This is how hardcore they have protected the Bin Laden MYTHOLOGY, they have, and will kill absolutely ANYONE who, as a 1sthand witness could testify as to the facts of this mythology.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: _CREATIONIST_ on August 06, 2011, 11:58:18 am
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/08/06/3820793/ap-sources-crash-kills-members.html#ixzz1UGgpUjHs

As in sure you read that 31 us solders were killed today. It just so happens that 22 of them were in the same unit that "killed" OBL. Looks like the NWO is trying to cover their tracks and tie up the loose ends
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: decemberfellow on August 06, 2011, 12:02:31 pm
Those mother f**kers how low how evil freaks
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: feeditup on August 06, 2011, 12:06:37 pm
seams like that want us to be more credible , or they think people are just that f**king stupid and most probably are
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: cjag-inc on August 06, 2011, 12:13:24 pm
how convenient,yet many will accept it as revenge.

move along nothing to see here.....
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chrisfromchi on August 06, 2011, 12:20:51 pm
alex gonna have to lead with sunday with this or do a youtube video on it soon.

adding in a clip of the prediction from months ago would really ram it home.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Tokiem on August 06, 2011, 12:23:04 pm
(http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/558997-bigthumbnail.jpg)

INFOWARS.COM  because there is a war on for your mind.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Freeski on August 06, 2011, 12:36:19 pm
alex gonna have to lead with sunday with this or do a youtube video on it soon.

adding in a clip of the prediction from months ago would really ram it home.

For sure, this must be spread far and wide to the troops everywhere! This could turn out to be the new shot heard around the world.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: attietewd on August 06, 2011, 12:37:07 pm
It was very disappointing to read the comments below the news article on the death of the navy seals.  There were a few that are awake, but the majority use the old spiel of "this is not the time to attack the president, there have been deaths, think of their families"......TPTB COUNT on this attitude among the sheeple.  They BANK on it.  If the death of our military personnel or citizens (9-11) of our country is not THE time to question our government's involvement or credibility would someone please tell me WHEN is a good time?  
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Byrne0ut on August 06, 2011, 12:42:11 pm
This story just makes it painfully obvious that the whole OBL raid was a sham. I wonder how soon the seals were due to rotate home?
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Optimus on August 06, 2011, 01:10:55 pm
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/08/06/3820793/ap-sources-crash-kills-members.html#ixzz1UGgpUjHs

As in sure you read that 31 us solders were killed today. It just so happens that 22 of them were in the same unit that "killed" OBL. Looks like the NWO is trying to cover their tracks and tie up the loose ends

As the saying goes: "Loose lips sink ships". The rat bastards are trying to make sure there would be no whistleblowers that could bring forth first-hand proof that the whole raid and OBL death was completely faked.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Kilika on August 06, 2011, 01:12:33 pm
Here's a denial...

Quote
A senior U.S. Military officials tell Fox News, "We don't believe that any of the special operators who were killed were involved in the Bin Laden operation."



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/06/afghan-president-31-americans-killed-in-helicopter-crash/#ixzz1UH23Hmhz
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: InsideJob on August 06, 2011, 01:16:12 pm
Here's a denial...


WTF? How big is a Seal team?
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Kilika on August 06, 2011, 01:30:00 pm
About 160 in a team, not including support.

Quote
http://information.usnavyseals.com/2009/07/the-structure-of-a-navy-seals-team.html

Herein, we will tell you about the inherent structure of the Navy SEAL Team.

SEAL Platoon

A Navy SEAL Platoon is usually sent on a tactical mission and an officer with the rank of a Navy Lieutenant is usually in charge of the Platoon. A SEAL platoon, as a rule consists of 16 SEAL commandos and for various reasons can also be divided into 2 squads of 8 each or also into 4 elements.

The Structure

At a very basic level SEAL teams are categorized into two groups, and both the groups being commanded by the Naval Special Warfare Command, which is stationed in California at NAB Coronado.

The Composition

A Navy SEALs team consists of three Task Units comprising of 40 men each. The elements that figure prominently in such a Task Unit are:

1. Task Unit Senior Enlisted
2. Task Unit Commander
3. Operations Officer also called a Targeting Officer
4. Chief Petty Officer or Operations Leading Officer

As aforementioned a Navy SEAL platoon consists of 16 men, which usually include:

1. 2 Officers
2. 14 SEALs
3. EOD Operators – 2 ( Sometimes)

The Splitting of the Task Units

For operational purposes each of the two Task Units are usually split into around eight teams, each comprising of 4 men. Inclusive of the large support staff the size of a SEAL Team including the Task Units comes to around 300 personnel.

A 16 men Navy SEAL platoon would be composed of the likes of an Officer in Charge, an Assistant Officer in Charge, a platoon Chief, and a Leading Petty Officer. The rest of the squad members belong to the bracket between E-6 to E-4. This means that a SEAL platoon would basically consist of 13 enlisted personnel, as well as, 3 officers.

The Core Abilities of the Task Unit

The Navy SEALs task unit is made of individuals who possess certain core skills. Some of them are:

1. Snipers
2. Maritime Engineering
3. Corpsman
4. Air Support
5. Heavy Weapons Specialist
6. Diver
7. Navigator
8. Interrogator
9. Explosives Expert
10. Air Operations Experts
… And many more

Based on that info, it looks like it was a platoon that went down with a few extras.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 06, 2011, 01:33:00 pm
  I posted the first post on this thread not realizing it was Seal Team 6.

  Can anybody say Lee Harvey Oswald (kill the players)?

  Truly unbelievable

  Can anybody say "friendly" fire (a la Pat Tillman)?
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chris jones on August 06, 2011, 01:35:58 pm
 Any time skecthy reports are involved there is a time lapse to an OFFICIAL story.
 We will be getting a spin later today or tommorow, these coverups take time,  trained personell, and MSM preparations.
  You can bet these men were on crypto status, but even so I'm sure the agency took into account the fact Bins FF assassination may have been leaked, risky business in the event  a few of these men were sickened by this fraud and came forward with the truth.
 We are expendable, keep this in mind , PLEASE.
  
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 06, 2011, 01:44:53 pm
Any time skecthy reports are involved there is a time lapse to an OFFICIAL story.
 We will be getting a spin later today or tommorow, these coverups take time,  trained personell, and MSM preparations.
  You can bet these men were on crypto status, but even so I'm sure the agency took into account the fact Bins FF assassination may have been leaked, risky business in the event  a few of these men were sickened by this fraud and came forward with the truth.
 We are expendable, keep this in mind , PLEASE.
  

  You are right Chris.  They are making up the "official" story now to be released very soon.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 06, 2011, 01:50:49 pm


  Clinton had Arkansides, Bush43 had 9/11cides, and now Sotero has Afghanicides.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: EvadingGrid on August 06, 2011, 02:02:01 pm
Since the whole "assassination" of OBL was fake - what makes anyone think that this story is for real ?
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: donnay on August 06, 2011, 02:18:27 pm
Yes was there any seal team 6 to begin with or was that some made-up name to make everything look official?

SEAL Team Six Doesn’t Exist (and isn’t called Team Six)
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/03/seal-team-six-doesnt-exist-and-isnt-called-team-six/

I can't say a word about Team 6... There is no Team 6': Who are the silent warriors that took out Osama bin Laden?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382815/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Who-Obamas-Navy-SEALS-Team-6.html

SEAL Team Six — that’s not their name
http://militaryreporter.net/2011/05/03/seal-team-six
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: hardrain77 on August 06, 2011, 02:39:57 pm
Now they're reporting it wasn't seal team 6. Official retraction coming soon. Looks like they're polishing off the story.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chris jones on August 06, 2011, 02:42:21 pm
Yes was there any seal team 6 to begin with or was that some made-up name to make everything look official?
SEAL Team Six Doesn’t Exist (and isn’t called Team Six)
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/03/seal-team-six-doesnt-exist-and-isnt-called-team-six/
I can't say a word about Team 6... There is no Team 6': Who are the silent warriors that took out Osama bin Laden?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382815/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Who-Obamas-Navy-SEALS-Team-6.html
SEAL Team Six — that’s not their name
http://militaryreporter.net/2011/05/03/seal-team-six
Donnay. Good point. The bottom line, people have no idea what is truly going on_SM's. Whatever the GOV & MSM declares is beleived. Put the Politican on the screen and a followup by MSM, it has become that simple for these freaks to CON Americans.
Title: 20 Navy Seals from unit that killed Osama killed in Helicopter Crash
Post by: crutley on August 06, 2011, 02:59:22 pm
I find this very suspicious. I smell a rat covered in the stink of shutting up any potential whistle blowers...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/dozens-die-nato-helicopter-shot-down-120744697.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/dozens-die-nato-helicopter-shot-down-120744697.html)
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: endof on August 06, 2011, 03:04:43 pm
word from alex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-6ZS_RzEYY

Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 06, 2011, 03:21:30 pm
word from alex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-6ZS_RzEYY



  I believe AJ. 

  What  is this all about?  We will know very soon.  Cover up for sure.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: ScipioAfricanus on August 06, 2011, 03:21:56 pm
the story has started to change. now none of the seal members were onboard the flight.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Freeski on August 06, 2011, 03:32:50 pm
word from alex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-6ZS_RzEYY



Thanks for posting -- he said he might even go into the studio to cover this.

It's hard to make sense of, but there are at least four possible scenarios -- whatever, though, it stinks big time.

Like someone mentioned earlier, how would anyone know if any of it is real, unless one personally knew one of the KIAs? But even then, without being there yourself, it can still all be fabricated.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Khazaq on August 06, 2011, 03:46:34 pm
The other angle on this story is that it distracts the media from impending financial doom via S&P and China.
Title: Re: 20 Navy Seals from unit that killed Osama killed in Helicopter Crash
Post by: ScipioAfricanus on August 06, 2011, 03:47:04 pm
extremely suspicious.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: ScipioAfricanus on August 06, 2011, 03:49:35 pm
The other angle on this story is that it distracts the media from impending financial doom via S&P and China.
its an NWO type news weekend.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: endof on August 06, 2011, 03:55:02 pm
this is the eyewitness who aparently said he saw the chopper blow up with them all in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0vo-L3VACs

WHEN THE HELICOPTER PICKED UP THOSE SOLDIERS ON THE GROUND, IT EXPLODED WITH ALL THE SOLDIERS INSIDE....EVERYONE DIED AND THE CHOPPER FELL DOWN

we will need to get it properly transcribed to verfiy this.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Khazaq on August 06, 2011, 03:56:34 pm
its an NWO type news weekend.

Yes it is.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Information Warfare on August 06, 2011, 04:07:46 pm
I have a feeling those seals died during the fake Osama raid when Pakistani citizens on the ground reported a helicopter blew up and killed every one in it.

This helicopter crash probably never even happened. Just a cover story for the real navy seal deaths during the fake Osama raid.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Dig on August 06, 2011, 04:14:18 pm
Why does it feel like I have seen something like this somewhere before?



31 North 62 East
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/31_North_62_East

31 North 62 East tells the story of a British Prime Minister who gives up the position of an Special Air Service (SAS) unit in Afghanistan to ensure a UK £80 billion arms deal goes through, assuring his re-election. All soldiers in the SAS unit are thought to have died, until two months later, when one of them, a female captain, is found by Italian special forces and returns to the UK to investigate.


As EvadingGrid said:

Since the whole "assassination" of OBL was fake - what makes anyone think that this story is for real ?

I believe something happened and likely there were assassinations. Is there a Seal Team 6 other than a Disney production? One thing is for siure...there is a National Clandestine Services and that is who the mysterious Seal Team 6 reports to. What does National Clandestine Services do? They create False Flag operations from planning to logistics to myth building to cover ups.

From: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=211322.0


National Clandestine Service
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Clandestine_Service

The National Clandestine Service (NCS) (formerly known as the Directorate of Operations) is one of the four main components of the Central Intelligence Agency. Created in 2005, the NCS "serves as the clandestine arm of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the national authority for the coordination, de-confliction, and evaluation of clandestine operations across the Intelligence Community of the United States".[1] The current Director of the NCS is John D. Bennett.[2]

Creation of the National Clandestine Service

In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, a report by the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001 conducted by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the 9/11 Commission Report released by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States identified serious shortcomings in the HUMINT capabilities of the US Intelligence Community ranging from the lack of qualified linguists to the lack of information sharing within the IC. These efforts resulted in the passage of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act in 2004 which created the position of the Director of National Intelligence and tasked the CIA Director with developing a "strategy for improving the human intelligence and other capabilities of the Agency.".[3]

Going even further, in 2004, Senator Pat Roberts, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, drafted the 9/11 National Security Protection Act[4] in which he proposed that the Directorate of Operations be removed from the CIA and established as an independent agency known as the National Clandestine Service. The creation of the National Clandestine Service was also recommended by the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction, the "WMD Commission".[5] The investigation by the WMD Commission found that HUMINT capabilities had been severely degraded since the end of the Cold War and were ill-suited to targeting non-state actors such as terrorist organizations. The WMD Commission also noted that HUMINT operations were poorly coordinated between the various federal entities who conducted them and encouraged the development of better methods of validating human sources, in light of the revelations about the source known as Curveball.

Beginning its study of the Intelligence Community in 1995, a non-governmental group, which included former Director of the National Security Agency Lieutenant General William Odom, former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Lieutenant General Harry E. Soyster, former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency and current Director of National Intelligence Lieutenant General James Clapper, and former General Counsel for the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency Elizabeth Rindskopf Parker, issued a report, first in 1997 and in an updated form in 2002, which recommended the creation of the National Clandestine Service.[6]

The CIA announced the creation of the National Clandestine Service in a press release on October 13, 2005.[7] Contrary to Senator Roberts' proposal, the National Clandestine Service would be a component of the CIA, rather than an independent executive branch agency.

Historical Predecessors of the NCS

The Directorate of Operations (DO) was the branch of the CIA that ran covert operations and recruited foreign agents. The DO reportedly employed 1,000–2,000 people[citation needed] and was headed by a deputy director for operations (DDO). This directorate consisted of, among other subdivisions, a unit for political and economic covert action (the Covert Action Staff, or CAS), for paramilitary (PM) covert action (the Special Operations unit), for counterintelligence (the CI staff, or CIS]), and for several geographic desks responsible for the collection of foreign intelligence. It was created August 1, 1952, as the Directorate of Plans and was renamed the Directorate of Operations on March 1, 1973.[8]

The Directorate of Operations also housed special groups for conducting counterterrorism and counternarcotics, for tracking nuclear proliferation, and other tasks. Administrated by the DO, the paramilitary (PM) operations officers from the legendary Special Operations Group or (SOG) are maintained in the elite Special Activities Division (SAD). They are highly skilled in weaponry; covert transport of personnel and material by air, sea, and land; guerrilla warfare; the use of explosives; assassination and sabotage; and escape and evasion techniques. They are prepared to respond quickly to myriad possible needs, from parachute drops and communications support to assistance with counter narcotics operations and defector infiltration. Special Activities maintains a symbiotic relationship with the Joint Special Operations Command, and is run largely by former members of JSOC.[9] SAD/SOG is one of three special missions units. The other two are Delta and SEAL team six.[9]

In the 2003 book, Special OPS: America's elite forces in 21st century combat, the author states:
"Highly classified, the SAD is regarded as the preeminent special operations unit in the world. Members are the elite of the elite; "the best period." This results from the sources from which the organization recruits its members: Special missions units (SMUs); such as Delta Force and NSWDG (United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group)..." [10]

For special operations missions and its other responsibilities, the Special Operations staff attempted to recruit people with the appropriate specialized skills, although the geographic desks remain the principal units involved in the recruitment of personnel in so-called denied areas (Libya, Iraq, Iran, etc.). Special operations also provided special air, ground, maritime and training support for the Agency's intelligence gathering operations.

The DO has been subject to harsh criticism in the media, and due to its covert and independent nature did not, or could not, effectively respond. Its capabilities had been in decline since the public outcry resulting from the revelations of highly questionable actvities by the Church Committee. Furthermore, the DO fought frequent "turf" battles amongst the Executive Branch bureaucracies, most prominently with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, State Department and the Department of Defense. This was one of the principal reasons that the NCS was formed.

Organization

The current structure of the National Clandestine Service, under the Director of the NCS, is as follows, according to the Official CIA Organizational Chart:[11]

Deputy Director of the NCS
Counterproliferation Division
Counterterrorism Center
Counterintelligence Center
Regional & Transnational Issues Divisions
Technology Support Divisions
Deputy Director of the NCS for Community HUMINT
Community HUMINT Coordination Center

A major headquarters element was the Counterintelligence Staff, most powerful when headed by James Jesus Angleton. It was the principal US organization responsible for vetting potential new clandestine HUMINT assets, and for US offensive counterespionage and deception.

Under an assortment of names, such as Special Activities Division, there is a paramilitary function that may enter and prepare an area of operations before United States Army Special Forces enter in a more overt military role. This may or may not include psychological operations, especially black propaganda; paramilitary and psychological functions have split and joined under various historical reorganizations.

Various groups provide support services, such as cover documentation and disguise.[12] A technical services unit, sometimes in the clandestine division and occasionally in the Directorate of Science and Technology, contained both espionage equipment development and sometimes questionable research, such as the MKULTRA mind control program.

NCS Officers

The National Clandestine Service consists of six different types of officers[13] :

Below are brief descriptions of these six types of officers. For a more detailed description, visit the CIA website.

1) Operations Officers:
Operations Officers (OOs) are focused full time on clandestinely spotting, assessing, developing, recruiting, and handling individuals with access to vital foreign intelligence on the full range of national security issues.[14]

2) Collection Management Officers:
Core Collector-certified Collection Management Officers (CMOs) oversee and facilitate the collection, evaluation, classification, and dissemination of foreign intelligence developed from clandestine sources. CMOs play a critical role in ensuring that foreign intelligence collected by clandestine sources is relevant, timely, and addresses the highest foreign policy and national security needs of the nation.[15]

3) Staff Operations Officers:
Based out of CIA Headquarters in Washington, DC, Staff Operations Officers (SOOs) plan, guide and support intelligence collection operations, counterintelligence activities and covert action programs.[16]

4) Targeting Officers:
Officers in this career track will directly support and drive complex worldwide NCS operations to develop actionable intelligence against the highest priority threats to U.S. national security.[17]

5) Paramilitary Operations Officers:
Qualified candidates can expect to focus on intelligence operations and activities for U.S. policymakers in hazardous and austere overseas environments.[18]

The National Clandestine Service's primary action arm is the Special Activities Division (SAD), which conducts direct action-like raids, ambushes, sabotage, assassinations, unconventional warfare (e.g. training and leading guerrillas), and deniable psychological operations, the latter also known as "covert influence." While special reconnaissance may be either a military or intelligence operation, these usually are executed by SAD officers in denied areas.[9][19] Paramilitary operations officers are chosen mainly from the ranks of: the United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group and other SEAL teams; the U.S. Army's Combat Applications Group (Delta Force), Army special forces, and U.S. Army Rangers; the United States Marine Corps Forces Special Operations battalions (MARSOC); and the Air Force Combat Controllers and Air Force Pararescuemen.[9] SAD operatives are the most specialized because they combine the best special operations and clandestine intelligence (spy) capabilities in one individual. They operate in any environment (sea, air, or ground) and with limited to no support. They originate in the Special Operations Group (SOG) of SAD, considered one of the most elite special operations units in the world.[20] Paramilitary operations officers are the primary recipients of the coveted Distinguished Intelligence Cross and the Intelligence Star, the two highest medals for valor in the CIA. Not surprisingly, the majority of those memorialized on the Wall of Honor at CIA headquarters were covert operatives.[21]

6) NCS Language Officers
Performing a critical and dynamic function within the National Clandestine Service (NCS), the Language Officer applies advanced foreign language skills, experience, and expertise to provide high-quality translation, interpretation, and language-related support for a variety of NCS clandestine operations.[22]

Covert action

A covert action is defined as "an activity or activities of the United States Government to influence political, economic, or military conditions abroad, where it is intended that the role of the United States Government will not be apparent or acknowledged publicly".[23] A covert operation differs from a clandestine operation in that emphasis is placed on concealment of the identity of the sponsor rather than on concealment of the operation.[19]

Covert operations include paramilitary and psychological activities. See Psychological Operations (United States) for a more general discussion of US psychological operations, including those operations for which the CIA is responsible and those that belong to other agencies.

Executive Order 12333 bans assassinations by persons employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government.[24]

Clandestine Collection of HUMINT

Legal Authorities

A number of statutes, executive orders, and directives assign the task of conducting HUMINT operations to the CIA:

1) By federal statute, the Director of the CIA is tasked with the collection of intelligence through human sources and by other appropriate means.[25]

2) Executive Order 12333[26] states that:

The Director of the Central Intelligence Agency shall coordinate the clandestine collection of foreign intelligence collected through human sources or through human-enabled means and counterintelligence activities outside the United States.

3) National Security Council Intelligence Directive No. 5 (NSCID 5)[27] provides that:

The Director of Central Intelligence shall conduct all organized Federal espionage operations outside the United States and its possessions for the collection of foreign intelligence information required to meet the needs of all Departments and Agencies concerned, in connection with the national security, except for certain agreed activities by other Departments and Agencies.

4) Intelligence Community Directive Number 340 designates the Director of the CIA as the National HUMINT Manager.[28]

Tradecraft

Techniques for the clandestine collection of HUMINT are collectively known as tradecraft. A discussion of many of these techniques can be found at Clandestine HUMINT operational techniques.

Very few statutes and publicly available regulations deal specifically with clandestine HUMINT techniques. One such statute forbids the use of journalists as agents unless the President of the United States makes the written determination to waive this restriction based on the "overriding national security interest of the United States.".[29] In the Intelligence Authorization Act for the Fiscal Year 2002, Congress directed the CIA Director to rescind what Congress viewed as overly restrictive guidelines regarding the recruitment of foreign assets who had a record of human rights violations.[30]

Camp Peary, often referred to as "The Farm", near Williamsburg, Virginia is purportedly a CIA training facility for clandestine operatives.

Clandestine technical collection

The Agency also may be responsible for developing communications systems appropriate for clandestine operations. In 1962, the Central Intelligence Agency, Deputy Directorate for Research (now the Deputy Directorate for Science and Technology), formally took on ELINT and COMINT responsibilities.[31] "The consolidation of the ELINT program was one of the major goals of the reorganization... it is responsible for: ELINT support peculiar to the penetration problems associated with the Agent's reconnaissance program under NRO. Maintain a quick reaction capability for ELINT and COMINT equipment."

"CIA's Office of Research and Development was formed to stimulate research and innovation testing leading to the exploitation of non-agent intelligence collection methods....All non-agent technical collection systems will be considered by this office and those appropriate for field deployment will be so deployed. The Agency's missile detection system, Project [deleted] based on backscatter radar is an example. This office will also provide integrated systems analysis of all possible collection methods against the Soviet antiballistic missile program is an example."

Sometimes in cooperation with technical personnel at other agencies such as NSA when the collection discipline is SIGINT, or DIA when the techniques come MASINT, or other appropriate agencies such as the United States Department of Energy for nuclear information, CIA may work to place technical collection equipment in denied territory. They have also cooperated in placing such equipment into US embassies. Emplacing and servicing such equipment is another form of clandestine operation, of which the adversary should not be aware.

These include:[31]
Research, development, testing, and production of ELINT and COMINT collection equipment for all Agency operations.
Technical operation and maintenance of CIA deployed non-agent ELINT systems.
Training and maintenance of agent ELINT equipments
Technical support to the Third Party Agreements.
Data reduction of Agency-collected ELINT signals.

See MASINT from clandestinely placed sensors. CIA took on a more distinct MASINT responsibility in 1987.[32] The National Security Archive commented, "In 1987, Deputy Director for Science and Technology Evan Hineman established... a new Office for Special Projects. concerned not with satellites, but with emplaced sensors – sensors that could be placed in a fixed location to collect signals intelligence or measurement and signature intelligence (MASINT) about a specific target. Such sensors had been used to monitor Chinese missile tests, Soviet laser activity, military movements, and foreign nuclear programs. The office was established to bring together scientists from the DS&T’s Office of SIGINT Operations, who designed such systems, with operators from the Directorate of Operations, who were responsible for transporting the devices to their clandestine locations and installing them".

Overt HUMINT

In addition they may produce HUMINT from overt sources, such as voluntary interviews with travelers, businesspeople, etc. Some of the latter may be considered open source intelligence OSINT and be performed by other agencies, just as reports from diplomats are another form of HUMINT that flows into the Department of State.

At times, this function may be assigned to CIA, because its counter-intelligence staff has biographical indexes that let them check the background of foreign citizens offering information. For example, there may be a name check on a business or scientific contact who meets either with CIA representatives or staff of the National Open Source Enterprise

Approval of clandestine and covert operations

The Directorate of Plans (DDP) was created in 1952, taking control of the Office of Policy Coordination, a covert action group that received services from the CIA but did not go through the CIA management. The other main unit that went into the Directorate of Plans was the Office of Special Operations, which did clandestine intelligence collection (e.g., espionage) as opposed to covert action.

Approval of clandestine and covert operations came from a variety of committees, although in the early days of quasi-autonomous offices and the early DDP, there was more internal authority to approve operations.[33] After its creation in the Truman Administration, the CIA was, at first, the financial manager for OPC and OSO, authorized to handle "unvouchered funds" by National Security Council document 4-A of December 1947, the launching of peacetime covert action operations. NSC 4-A made the Director of Central Intelligence responsible for psychological warfare, establishing at the same time the principle that covert action was an exclusively Executive Branch function.

Early autonomy of OPC

At first, the supervision by committee allowed the OPC to exercise

"early use of its new covert action mandate dissatisfied officials at the Departments of State and Defense. The Department of State, believing this role too important to be left to the CIA alone and concerned that the military might create a new rival covert action office in the Pentagon, pressed to reopen the issue of where responsibility for covert action activities should reside. Consequently, on June 18, 1948, a new NSC directive, NSC 10/2, superseded NSC 4-A.

NSC 10/2 directed CIA to conduct "covert" rather than merely "psychological" operations, defining them as all activities "which are conducted or sponsored by this Government against hostile foreign states or groups or in support of friendly foreign states or groups but which are so planned and executed that any US Government responsibility for them is not evident to unauthorized persons and that if uncovered the US Government can plausibly disclaim any responsibility for them".

NSC 10/2 defined the scope of these operations as: "propaganda; economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, demolition and evacuation measures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance movements, guerrillas and refugee liberations [sic] groups, and support of indigenous anti-Communist elements in threatened countries of the free world. Such operations should not include armed conflict by recognized military forces, espionage, counter-espionage, and cover and deception for military operations." [34]

Guerrilla warfare was outside this statement of scope, but such operations came under partial CIA control with NSC 10/5 of October 1951. See "Psychological Strategy Board" below. To implement covert actions under NSC 10/2, OPC was created on September 1, 1948. Its initial structure had it taking "guidance from the Department of State in peacetime and from the military in wartime, initially had direct access to the State Department and to the military without having to proceed through CIA's administrative hierarchy, provided the Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) was informed of all important projects and decisions. In 1950 this arrangement was modified to ensure that policy guidance came to OPC through the DCI. During the Korean War the OPC grew quickly. Wartime commitments and other missions soon made covert action the most expensive and bureaucratically prominent of CIA's activities.

"Concerned about this situation, DCI Walter Bedell Smith in early 1951 asked the NSC for enhanced policy guidance and a ruling on the proper "scope and magnitude" of CIA operations. The White House responded with two initiatives. In April 1951 President Truman created the Psychological Strategy Board (PSB) under the NSC to coordinate government-wide psychological warfare strategy."

Putting special operations under a "psychological" organization paralleled the military's development of United States Army Special Forces, which was created by a Pentagon unit called the Psychological Warfare Division. "NSC 10/5, issued in October 1951, reaffirmed the covert action mandate given in NSC 10/2 and expanded CIA's authority over guerrilla warfare"[35] The PSB was soon abolished by the incoming Eisenhower administration, but the expansion of CIA's covert action writ in NSC 10/5 helped ensure that covert action would remain a major function of the Agency.[33]

As the Truman administration ended, CIA was near the peak of its independence and authority in the field of covert action. Although CIA continued to seek and receive advice on specific projects ...no group or officer outside of the DCI and the President himself had authority to order, approve, manage, or curtail operations.

Increasing control by CIA management

After Smith, who was Eisenhower's World War II Chief of Staff, consolidated of OSO, OPC, and CIA in 1952, the Eisenhower administration began narrowing CIA's latitude in 1954. In accordance with a series of National Security Council directives, the responsibility of the Director of Central Intelligence for the conduct of covert operations was further clarified. President Eisenhower approved NSC 5412 on March 15, 1954, reaffirming the Central Intelligence Agency's responsibility for conducting covert actions abroad". A series of committees, containing reprresentatives from State, Defense, CIA, and sometimes the White House or NSC, reviewed operations. Over time and reorganizations, these committees were called the Operations Coordinating Board (OCB), NSC 5412/2 Special Group or simply Special Group, Special Group (Augmented), 303 Committee, and Special Group (Counterinsurgency).[33]

Controversy

Former Director of the NCS Jose Rodriguez was criticized for his role in the 2005 CIA interrogation tapes destruction.

See also
CIA operations
Intelligence Community
Special Operations
"Wild Bill" Donovan
Office of Strategic Services
Church Commission
Special Activities Division

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Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: endof on August 06, 2011, 05:34:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/user/astonisher1

this user has alex jones shows way way back, all are labeled by date.

go to uploads, type in 2011-05-02 in the search.
could also try. 2011-05-03 or -04, wherever the clips he wants are, they will be there.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Stan on August 06, 2011, 05:49:56 pm
As if the original hoax didn't produce enough red flags of its own.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: InsideJob on August 06, 2011, 06:31:35 pm
word from alex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-6ZS_RzEYY


That vid claims 305 views, but more than 1200 "I Like" votes. Typical.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: donnay on August 06, 2011, 06:52:57 pm
word from alex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-6ZS_RzEYY



I love how YouTube is manipulating the view counter.  There are 1243 thumbs up and only 305 views! It appears YouTube is up to their dirty tricks again!   >:(
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: endof on August 06, 2011, 06:55:21 pm
I love how YouTube is manipulating the view counter.  There are 1243 thumbs up and only 305 views! It appears YouTube is up to their dirty tricks again!   >:(

yep!

wont go as viral now will it. probably just a button some douchebag presses "lock view counter".
Title: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: CalAaron on August 06, 2011, 06:59:46 pm
Quote
The Associated Press reported that the majority of the 31 American troops killed Saturday when the Taliban shot down a military helicopter over Afghanistan were members of SEAL Team 6, the elite team that killed Osama bin Laden in May.

Quote
UPDATE: CNN is reporting that none of the SEALs in the crash were members of the operation that killed Osama bin Laden. Officials now confirm that the helicopter was shot down by insurgents.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/06/seal-team-6-marines-who-killed-osama-bin-laden-died-in-helicopter-crash-ap/
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: Jenna_Jynx on August 06, 2011, 07:56:36 pm
I'm thinking more along the lines that this chopper was rigged to crash to "clean up" any soldiers who might have blown the whistle one day.
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: Valerius on August 06, 2011, 07:57:46 pm
How can people just accept these amazing coincidences over and over.
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: Jenna_Jynx on August 06, 2011, 08:31:56 pm
Fluoride..
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: CalAaron on August 06, 2011, 08:42:40 pm
Fluoride..

Aye
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: SUPREMEMASTER on August 06, 2011, 08:54:27 pm
Thanks for reminding me that this issue even existed...

This is something that bothered me alot and confused me for a while now.

In fact I'm still confused about it..


But if they lied so many times before in the past about everything else, I'm betting that they're just lying again..

...And knowing how this all goes, I'm sure the people who died were only killed deliberately because they knew something they shouldn't have known or seen something they shouldn't have seen... (Like Jenna_Jynx suggested)

How is it even possible to be skeptical against the possibility that we were lied to... again? How is it possible to not doubt anything the government and military officially says anymore? Thousands of lies, evil that existed before a bunch of us were even born..

They reason WHY they lie is because you DON'T THINK THEY WILL LIE.

DUH
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: chris jones on August 06, 2011, 08:57:09 pm
Valerius-How can people beleive any official reports?. Many in our society have been trained, attached to the nightly news and journals, the poltical rhetoric, and societys mindet. Ivan Pavlov revealed the conditioning of animals, the elites invented this concept for human beings long ago. A good portion of the citizenry beleive to the core of their being, the USA wars are honarable, nessesary, we alone "America" are the torch of light to this gobe and its inhabitants. Some are incapable of questioning as if it were hercey. The of course their are the profiteers feeding of the blood and suffering.
 Some simply don't  care one way or another as long their lifestyle is unaffected. Ohters are apathetic, given up,a deep down surrender to the Gov with the attitude (what can we do, they feel the power blanketing this nation).  I have seen official reports and I have seen reports that were altered to con the public.
V. I joined this post some time back, the reason being is simply I discovered a site that exposes Truth.
  Its is not the USA, our base is firm and honorable. (As many a wise man has said the only way to conquer America is from within). The infestation of the parasitic elites and their money grubbing playmates are the disease.  The wall we face to our  freedom and revival of our ideals has been riddeled with the deceptions of those in high places, soldouts in positions of power and our spineless propaganda spinners MSM. ( In final, I have for 3 months been waiting for one commnetator to mention war costs, both monetary and of human life sacrificed, not a word. Once these puppets gain a seat at the table of power we are but worms in our breeding grounds. As far as the term OFFICIAL, once that stamp is appliedd many of our fellow citizens accept it as if it were written by the hand of God.
 They fail to see the the numbers of humans who have been effected , genocide and torture is not codusive to creating freindhsips.    
  
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: CmdrSoCal on August 06, 2011, 09:01:26 pm
it was a "stinging" blow says the APCIA. ha ha ha.
http://news.yahoo.com/copter-shot-down-killing-30-us-troops-7-213158998.html
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: InsideJob on August 06, 2011, 09:35:06 pm
The building-7-smoking-gun for Alex's we-need-to-account-for-these-seal-deaths theory is the dog. There was a dog on the Osama mission and one that allegedly died on the Chinook. Same dog?
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: WarChest on August 07, 2011, 12:15:51 am
Why is it that because they are the most elite worriers of our military, they somehow have a samurai type of self-sacrifice and absolute devotion to the constitution?

I don’t think that a class on constitutional ethics is taught with the same fanatical fervor as ignoring hours of cold, pain and exhaustion in the surf.

I think that they are men just like you and I with the same individual sense of honor.

Those men aren’t robots with the constitution as their prime directive. They are susceptive to corruption just like the next man.

If these men were eliminated by TPTB, I would like to believe that was because it was known that they would no longer be part of the charade.

Or maybe, the whole thing was staged and it was deemed that in the near future, those assets would have other fish to fry.


Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: Valerius on August 07, 2011, 12:23:21 am

Chopper crash kills members of SEAL Team 6
Aug 6, 2011

     COPYRIGHT 2011 NEW ENGLAND CABLE NEWS


"U.S. officials say none of the SEALs who died had participated in the raid that killed Osama bin Laden..."


http://www.necn.com/08/06/11/Chopper-crash-kills-members-of-SEAL-Team/landing_nation.html?&apID=dc500fdef67d407daaa50ea090a36005
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ...
Post by: CalAaron on August 07, 2011, 12:39:57 am
Yep, Valerlus, that's the "new spin" on this news item of the day. I think it is a retraction, because the first spin didn't do what they expected. I don't doubt a Chopper went down, but the circumstances in which it did go down are probably not how it has been reported -- and of course our lords and masters never miss an opportunity to spin the news for their own "benefit".
Title: Re: SEAL Team 6 - Killed - uhh, not killed - uhhh ... -- Alex Jones's take--
Post by: SUPREMEMASTER on August 07, 2011, 01:46:20 am
YouTube:

Deaths of SEAL Team 6 Exposed! (Click Here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-6ZS_RzEYY)

Seal Team 6 Crash Was An Inside Job! (Click Here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHc1uWIRZs)



~The Alex Jones Channel (Videos above are all from this youtube channel)

Thumbs Up if you're a Patriot.
(https://www.socialtext.net/data/workspaces/ism4300/attachments/wonderfull:20080109231900-0-30042/scaled/hand-thumbs-up-2.jpg)

(SAME LINKS BELOW WITH DESCRIPTIONS)


Deaths of SEAL Team 6 Exposed! (Click Here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-6ZS_RzEYY)

Infowars is on the record reporting that members of Seal Team 6 died in the so called OBL raid. The government admits that a super secret helicopter did crash during the OBL raid but says no one died, our intel is different. We predicted that the spin doctors would stage a crash or when a real crash took place that they would say the SEALs died then. This is a old trick that governments all over the world have been caught pulling in the past. Some speculate that Obama had the team killed to cover up what really happened; however our intel does not point that way. The Pentagon may have blown the helicopter up on the ground on the night of the raid and we cover that in the above video. Lastly the globalist MSM is reporting that terrorist have taken credit but that is notoriously filled with disinfo, like in the Norway attack when a fake terrorist group took credit and the media ran with it.

Seal Team 6 Crash Was An Inside Job! (Click Here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHc1uWIRZs)

This is reportedly the largest one day loss of troops in the 10 year war in Afghanistan and it just happens to be Seal Team 6. So now we are to buy that the men who took out OBL Died in a helicopter crash months after pulling off the raid. Our inside sources told us months ago that all the Seals on the helicopter that crashed in the so called OBL raid died,the Obama admin says none were killed. Witnesses on the ground in Pakistan told national News outlets that the Seals went in to the compound then came out got in a stealth craft and it exploded. The video with the witnesses is posted on Infowars.com in our news report titled "Seal Team 6 Deaths Exposed". Now the globalist may have killed off the rest of the Seal team that made it out in the other stealth helicopter from the OBL raid to tie up loose ends. Bottom line the official bin Laden raid story is a proven fraud so it is no wonder that this story dose not ad up.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: DireWolf on August 07, 2011, 08:46:42 am
The so-called OB killing by our military doomed those poor men from the start of that mission.

 As it was with Pat Tillman someone was going to tell the truth about the OB operation and we know the military would rather kill their own than lose face and have to tell the truth.

 If we invade another country within a month or so this could be a red-herring. Men have been KIA (and positively identified) only to turn up later as part of some Black Ops mission. Just a thought...

If these men died to protect yet another government lie, I truly emphathise with their families and friends.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Optimus on August 07, 2011, 11:16:59 am
Another video from Alex

Seal Team 6 Crash Was An Inside Job!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHc1uWIRZs
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 07, 2011, 11:40:09 am
Another video from Alex

Seal Team 6 Crash Was An Inside Job!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHc1uWIRZs

  This stinks to high Heaven---AJ

  No question about it.

 
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Valerius on August 07, 2011, 12:10:13 pm
And no one will dare raise an eyebrow of curiosity about the whole thing.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: ScipioAfricanus on August 07, 2011, 12:40:18 pm
And no one will dare raise an eyebrow of curiosity about the whole thing.
only the sheeple, only the sheeple.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: psy0ps on August 07, 2011, 01:08:16 pm
Last night the news was saying none of the SEALS that died were involved in the Osama raid...
Hard to believe.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chrisfromchi on August 07, 2011, 03:43:04 pm
Last night the news was saying none of the SEALS that died were involved in the Osama raid...
Hard to believe.

that isn't stooping the media from leaving the perception that some did.

stories don't matter its what people remember.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: SUPREMEMASTER on August 07, 2011, 03:45:16 pm
that isn't stooping the media from leaving the perception that some did.

stories don't matter its what people remember.

(http://rlv.zcache.com/short_attention_span_kitty_poster-p228810723591341570t5ta_400.jpg)
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Freeski on August 07, 2011, 03:46:02 pm
that isn't stooping the media from leaving the perception that some did.

stories don't matter its what people remember.

In the public relations field, they say "perception is reality" -- and that just drives me nuts!

Stupidist mantra ever.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Jordan on August 07, 2011, 06:37:39 pm
In the public relations field, they say "perception is reality" -- and that just drives me nuts!

Stupidist mantra ever.

I think what they actually mean is "Perception becomes Reality"
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Ambriel on August 07, 2011, 06:55:58 pm
I have a friend whom I am in contact with that is in the intel community in Alexandria, VA and I have gotten some tidbits of info.

Info I am getting is that Rangers were boots on the ground engaging a HVT in the WARDAK area, and pinned down by heavy fire. SEALS were called in for ex-fil and support and after they got the Rangers out they took fire getting out.

No word on if the HVT was captured or KIA, still too classified to get the intel on that.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 07, 2011, 07:35:00 pm


  I watched CBS and NBC tonight.  Still no video footage of the wrecked Chinook.  WHAT IF THE CRASH NEVER HAPPENED? (the 2nd one they are talking about this weekend)
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Freeski on August 07, 2011, 07:35:17 pm
I think what they actually mean is "Perception becomes Reality"

Well that's the objective, for sure, but the arrogance of saying "it's true because we say it is" is what's annoying. Yet most people do fall for it, every day, all of the time -- because they respond to repeated soundbytes rather than personal study and critical thought. People are shallow in their understanding and the Nazis sure made good use of that fact, as are today's propagandists.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Catalina on August 07, 2011, 08:05:24 pm
Veterans today issues a scathing report on this propagandist ploy. Good report. Another sign veterans aren't buying the ploy of deception.

“Bin Laden” Heroes Probably Murderered to Keep Them Quiet. Some Possibly Killed in Abbottabad Helicopter Crash Months Before

Today 31 NATO troops, 20 of them Navy Seals from the Osama bin Laden operation died in what is reported as a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

The chances of this story being true is almost nil.  The chances of this being a staged coverup is over 80%.  We believe these people were murdered to silence them.  This is why.

We have solid information on two areas:

   1. Osama bin Laden died in 2001 as an active CIA employee and his body was recovered in Afghanistan and taken to “the sand box.”  We were told it was frozen.  We have so much verification from this, CIA, ISI, US military and top officials.  I have a direct confirmation from Bin Laden’s CIA handler who I grilled mercilessly on this.

   2. The Abbottabad operation involved numerous American deaths, witnessed, bodies all over, a helicopter crash. (suppressed translated TV interview below)  These bodies were recovered by land vehicle from Islamabad and there was NO “successful” bin Laden operation of any kind.  There was and has been a CIA safe house in Abbotabad where terror suspects were stored for years.


This gave the US several areas of severe vulnerability.  Generally, Navy Seals are the best people in the world at keeping their mouths shut, these are real team players, as the term “Seal Team” belies.

    We at VT were informed that the bin Laden operation was staged at this time, a theatrical farce, to cover the exit of Secretary Gates, the move by former CIA Director Leon Panetta into the DOD as Secretary of Defense and to stem any heroic claims by new CIA Director Petraeus of killing the long dead Osama bin Laden, the long frozen CIA operative.

Petraeus is a possible presidential contender and had to be denied this “gift from heaven,” a fast track to the oval office for sure.

Will We Ever Know What Happened?

Again, I remind you, I went over specific meetings on bin Laden with his handlers, getting every last detail.  I have watched what has gone on, the continuing need to vilify a long dead top CIA operative to provide residual cover for the Bush administration….

The reason?  Bush and his cronies are all facing charges of war crimes, not just in minor jurisdictions but heading for the ICC, putting them on the dock with Gaddafi ( a far less harmful character).

As for the timing of this incident?  This we will work on.  What we can easily surmise is that some of the dead have been dead since their bodies were taken away from the helicopter crash site in Abbotabad.

Who would order such a thing?  We are going to have to wait but we are going to find out.  However, we expected this, the timing is exactly as predicted.

HOW VT TRIED TO SAVE THEM

When the phony Abbotbad operation came out, I immediately understood what happened.  I also saw much potential good from it other than the tragedy of the dead Americans from the crash.  I wrote of this and see their deaths as more heroic than many recognize.

    They died to erase for all time remnants of the Bush era fairly tale of badguy and evildoer Osama bin Laden.  Enough good men had died chasing a ghost who lived only in phony video and audio tapes by “Bin Laden Studios” in Tel Aviv and in the continual “boogeyman” rhetoric of professional fearmongers.

Not long afterward, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, another able public servant announced the near defeat of Al Qaeda, another Bush fairly tale.

    Al Qaeda has never existed, there are no magic worldwide terror conspiracies other than those run by governments.  There are several of those and I have written extensively on these.  Google will help you with this if you are curious.

When VT saw why the government staged this, we saw we could accomplish two things:

   1. We could simply report the truth for those willing to believe it, something we believe is the right thing to do.
   2. We could also support the United States in a very real way, knowing Pakistan would weather this crisis, timed, in some ways, as a face saving move in response to the embarrassing Raymond Davis affair.  I believed if the truth came out, clear enough for insiders, intel and miliary for sure, to understand that we knew and other insiders knew, there would be no reason to “clean house” afterward, to stage a coverup and get rid of any involved.

Abbotabad - How Many Died Here?

I had felt that we had provided cover for the Seal Team, we hadn’t trashed them, we acknowledged the dead at Abbotabad where no one else bothered, this is our job as fellow members of America’s military forces (current and former).

More importantly, we got out word, I certainly did enough radio and TV on this, enough that, for anyone who care, the “truth was out there.”

This is all we could do but I hoped it would stem a need for covering tracks.  After all, anyone leaking real information on the operation would only seem like they had gotten it from me and I put it out there in such a manner that I allowed room to be “debunked.”

I do this to protect myself but I really was thinking of them.  These are great guys, Seals are among the best people on earth.  The Seal and Special Forces communities are, of the military groups in the US, some of the finest people I know.

They also help cover my “behind,” which I appreciate.

    This is just too obvious, too brazen.  I can’t imagine it started at the White House or even cabinet level but maybe I am deluding myself.  Bin Laden was all about the election.

After the bond collapse and credit disaster yesterday, anything threatening President Obama’s reelection is seen, by some, as a threat to America’s financial survival.  This debt crisis is a bigger threat to the US than a Japanese invasion in 1942 would have been.

You may not see it that way and you certainly cant get out your hunting rifle to fix it. (Don’t be a sap, kill a Jap!)

Osama in Better Days

Someone had gotten to someone.  My best guess and this is a guess…an expose’ by the mainstream media, perhaps Murdoch, another guess, conjecture I admit, regarding the farce at Abbottabad, information possibly gotten through spying, bribery and blackmail, threatened to take down Obama.

With Murdoch’s good friend and “monkeyboy,” Netanyahu ‘on the ropes,” with crowds marching in Israel’s streets demanding his ouster, we have more timing to factor in.

The bin Laden killing, the third rate drama of capturing an unarmed frozen dead guy and throwing him into the ocean had probably become an albatross around certain high ranking necks.

Norway was no accident, it was a warning too.  It has been containerized, just as the Murdoch espionage issue is now “poor Rupert and the pie thrower.”

These Americans are casualties in a game, one like 9/11, sacrificial pawns, like Britain’s 7/7, all lies, all theatre, all evil.

    This is not for public consumption.  There are those who know exactly who I am talking to.

There are many of us here who still keep our mouths shut about so many things.  There are too many who don’t even care, most of us at VT do.  Yes, I am aware I can be jailed, I am aware my passport can be pulled, I already see the damned surveillance.

Amateurs.

We aren’t anti-American.  I am simply sick of seeing solutions that go one direction, stealing everything that isn’t nailed down.  I am also sick of the fact that Washington can’t visit the “head’ without Israel’s permission.

    This…today, this is too much. It is unforgivable.  We are not going to allow this to stand.

We have a long standing history of “cleaning house” after operations of this kind.  Usually its dead senators in plane crashes, heart attacks, car wrecks, like the Minot Barksdale or 9/11 incidents.  I could name a dozen more.  Does the name Wheeler meaning anything to you?  Anyone remember Pat Tillman?

But this many?

    Anchor: Welcome back, Mohammad Bashir is a resident of Abboottabad’s Bilal Town. Muhammad Bashir might seem an ordinary guy but he is no ordinary guy. Muhammad Bashir lives in front of Osama Ben Laden’s house in Bilal Town Abbottabad. On 2nd of May, Muhammad Bashir was present on his rooftop from where he saw the whole American operation against Osama Ben Laden with his own eyes. Yesterday when our team was present In Bilal Town, Abbottabad, near Osama Ben Laden’s hose, Muhammad Bashir came to us and said, “Sister, I need to tell you something, something that is a burden on my heart and soul”, just listen to what he said.

    Bashir: I am going to share something about the Abbottabad operation which till this day nobody else has told you.

    Anchor: But Muhammad Bashir was a little afraid too, while talking to me he telephoned hia reletive, Vice President of Jummat-e-Islami, Abdur Razzaq Abasi, watch it

    Reporter: Tell me your name and tell me whare do you live

    Bashir: Let me first, Let me talk to him one minute, i will give you full interview, full or half?

    Reporter: Full Full

    Bashir: Let me first talk to him

    Reporter: To whom? To Abbasi?

    Bashir: yes, to Abbasi

    Anchor: Muhammad Bashir told us something that no one said before. So we checked his identity card, we also confirmed that he really lives there, we asked from the senior fellows about him. We were very astonished by his story just see and listen what he said.

    Bashir: We were awake, not asleep, a helicopter came, some men came down from that, into that house, then that helicopter went away

    Reporter: How many men?

    Bashir: 10-12, then that helicopter took rounds of those rear hills, then he came bac…k and when he came bach, two more helicopters arrived, one from the west and other from the north, there was a blast in the first helicopter and it was on fire, we immediately came out, when we reached there, the helicopter was burning, then after about 20 minutes the army and police arrived, they pushed us back, now we are asking that if oama was here then who took him to america because all those men that came in the helicopter died in the blast, now if Osama was in that helicopter he must have died and got burnt in that helicopter too, then how they took him? this is a question of serious concern. America claims they they killed him and picked him up. How they picked him up? This is what we are thinking

    Reporter: Was there only one helicopter?

    Bashir? Yes the other that came flew away to Mansehra, there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them but as he was picking them up, it blew away and caught fire.

    Reporter: Then were in it when it blew?

    Bashir: Yes They were.

    Reporter : How you know?

    Bashir: We saw it with our own eyes

    Reporter: You saw dead man?

    Bashir: Yes, dead men,

    Reporter: How many?

    Bashir: I couldnt count them because then the compound was on fire. The gate was open, we went in, the army and police hadnt arrived then, there were some people but they werent stopping them. The whole neighborhood has seen that but they are silent now.

    Bashir: We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing

    Reporter: How many dead bodies you saw?

    Bashir: We couldn’t count them because they were blown into pieces.

The reporter asked Bashir to narrate the story again.

    Bashir said we could see the faces of those men but they were speaking pashto. I dont know whether they were Pakistani or American army or people of agencies, as you know that agency people can speak many languages.

    May be they were speaking Pashto so that we consider them Pakistani.

    They knocked and banged at our doors and told us not to come out.

    I laid down on my rooftop and was watching them.

    My kids were calling me, I told them to go to their rooms and let me check whats going on.

    The reporter asks Bashir, that when he saw that the helicopter was American what was he thinking then?

    Bashir said that he got afraid. He didn’t had in his mind that they will attack that house. He thought that they might have come to attack the Pakistan Army.

    The reporter asked so when was your cousin Shamraiz taken away?

    Bashir: Shamrez was at our home, as the helicopter exploded, me and many others went out of our homes to see what happened. Shamrez also came out and the gate of the compound was open, we went in, every thing was lying scattered, as it is a huge compound, some body parts were lying here, some there, legs, arms, heads, broken and torn body parts, during that time some part of the helicopter inside, may be the engine or other fuel related part had an explosion so we rushed out. During that time Shamrez was taken away, he is in his home now, but no one is allowed to meet him and i couldn’t get a chance to talk to him later.

    Then the anchor says that they had vegetations inside the compound and Shamrez was their gardener. We know that two men Arshad and Tariq used to live there. They had good relations with the neighbours, they used to buy things from the local store. Sometimes imported dates and used to send many things to their neighbours.

    Then the reporter is at Abdullah Ben Zubair Mosque, which is the nearest to compound of Osama.

    She asks a guy: do you think people would have been glad and happy if they would have ever met osama?

    The guy : Yes, possibly. Because he was a muslim and he believed in God.

This is the whole story! Every aspect and point translated.

    The gentleman being interviewed lives across from the compound. His cousin Sahab Jamrez Khan used to grow vegetables in the compound. He was taken away in all the hullabaloo on tape @10.29 Bashir says he did not see when they wisked his cousin away.

    Interviewer asks “Have you spoken to your cousin?”

    Bashir “No, I have not seen him yet he in in the house. “They will not let him get out” “They will not let me get in.”

    2 other men Arshad Sahib and Tariq Sahib used to go to market to shop for that compound and bought international brand items. Dates, dried meat found in compound. Also food used to come from compound to Bashir’s house Kabulu Pilau and things like that used to be presented to Bashir. They will follow up with more information. In the end the lady is standing in front of Abdullah Bin Zubair mosque. The mosque was with in walking distance of the compound. She asks people if Osama did attend this mosque people would have be happy? The one answered maybe. The other said Osama did “not” live here but he was muslim and believed in God. Interview ends.

    Another thing to note is that Bashir mentioned that we are very “sharif” meaning law abiding honest people. His town was a peaceful place no excitement no murders, fights, and he is unhappy how they have made his town so frightful with all this news. One thing is very clear in this video. Two helicopters hovered never landed. One landed dropped Pashto speaking poeple on the roof 10-12 of them Helicopter left fo 20 minutes returned to load people in and small blast engine failure fire helicopter parts all over. Body parts arms, legs, head, all over. Pakistani Army/Police came in dispersed crowd. The whole scene is cleaned up totally now. No evidence left to examine.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/06/breaking-news-bin-laden-troops-probably-murderered-to-keep-them-quiet/

Also see: Bin Laden Operation Discredits U.S. Armed Forces

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/15/gordon-duff-bin-laden-operation-discredits-u-s-armed-forces/

Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chris jones on August 07, 2011, 08:17:45 pm
 Imagery. please don't underestimate the effect. Each day the MSM reports casualties, they give the people numbers. They don't show the the body's of the victims, the filmage of the genocide.
 Infant body parts are not highlighted, the family body parts scattered about.
The elites have controlled this, simply because it would cause. In short they controll what the people hear and what they see. If it journalism existed there would be a wake up.
  22 Seals killed. Immediately reported was the Taliban had taken responsibility, HOW did they do this, e mail, a letter, a messenger, NO, it is SOP to lay blame immediately under all cuircustances until the framework for a official story is injected.
 In-forwarriors post  hit on this nicely. They have the capability's to set the stage for whatever FF, disinfo, we can possibly imagine. These deep cover teams have been at this for 5 decades I'm aware of, they are on the inside, yes contractors are involved, news reports, handlers, and specialists.
  This is an an example of a syndicated network. Our congress may be aware in some degree of these scons, only a percentage are directly informed, military, MI, CIA, DOD, NSA  are. They don't need at this point possible deniablility, they are far above the law of the land and have been placed in positions that make these scons effective.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 07, 2011, 08:23:16 pm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25923


  From Global Research



BREAKING NEWS: Dead Men Don’t Talk: US Navy Seals Destroyed to Cover Up Washington’s Bin Laden Execution Hoax?

by Finian Cunningham

   

   

 
Global Research, August 7, 2011

 

The wiping out of 30 US special forces in the Chinook helicopter crash in Afghanistan comes at a time when Washington’s official version of how it carried out the assassination of Osama bin Laden was falling apart from incredulity.

Among the 38 dead in the helicopter disaster – the biggest single loss of American lives in the 10-year Afghanistan war of occupation – are believed to have been several of the 17 US Navy Seals involved in the execution of Osama bin Laden in early May. The dead also include other members of US special forces and Afghan commandos.

Early Western news media reports indicated that the Chinook may have been involved in a significant military operation against Afghan militants when it went down in Wardak Province, not far west from the capital, Kabul, early Saturday.

Taliban sources are reported to have claimed that its militants shot down the Chinook with rocket fire.

US military officials say they are investigating the cause of the crash.

However, of significance, unnamed US sources have told media outlets that they believe the helicopter was shot down. This unofficial US briefing seems a bit odd. Why would US military sources want to hand enemy combatants a stunning propaganda coup?

Perhaps, it serves US interests to divert from the real motive and cause of the helicopter crash, whether it was hit by a rocket or not.

US officials have admitted that the dead Navy Seals were part of the Team Six unit that allegedly carried out the assassination in May of the supposed 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden.

From the outset, Washington’s account of how its special forces murdered Bin Laden in his residential compound in Abbottabad, northern Pakistan, has been riven with contradictions. Why was the liquidated Bin Laden buried hurriedly at sea? How could the world’s “No 1 Terrorist” have resided inconspicuously only miles from the Pakistani military headquarters in Rawalpindi?

Most glaringly, several informed sources are convinced that Bin Laden died from natural causes 10 years ago. Author Ralph Schoenman dismissed the alleged Navy Seal execution has “a big lie”. From investigations over several years in Pakistan, Schoenman told Global Research: “I have interviewed several members of the Pakistani intelligence services and militants, and they have all confirmed that Bin Laden died from kidney failure over 10 years.”

More recently, as Paul Craig Roberts reports [1], Pakistani locals have claimed that the Navy Seal operation in Abbottabad ended in disaster, with one of three US helicopters exploding as it took off from the ground near the compound. The other two choppers had not landed and, according to witnesses, they flew from the scene immediately after the explosion. As Roberts points out, that means there was no Bin Laden corpse to dispose off at sea, as Washington maintains.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 08, 2011, 12:18:46 am
 source----AJ Show Sunday 8-7-2011


   Col Sixx said that part of SEAL TEAM 6 died where OBL  was suppose to be killed and the other part of ST 6 died this weekend.

   He also said that the raid was to apprehend/kill someone else, not OBL.

   He also said that the Seals have their own Navy helicopters, not some 2nd rate Army Reserve helicopter.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Sasha on August 08, 2011, 01:32:20 am
mongolian burial

the most trusted members of the Khan's troops would bury the Khan with all of his riches, they would leave the burial site and then be killed by the second most trusted, the second most trusted would more away from that site and be killed be then next most trusted, and so on.

Seal team six buried a fake Khan, and was buried for their efforts.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: endof on August 08, 2011, 01:38:39 am
mongolian burial

the most trusted members of the Khan's troops would bury the Khan with all of his riches, they would leave the burial site and then be killed by the second most trusted, the second most trusted would more away from that site and be killed be then next most trusted, and so on.

Seal team six buried a fake Khan, and was buried for their efforts.

dont see how that system could work...you would always end up with one guy left. though i suppose he could off himself.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Sasha on August 08, 2011, 02:41:18 am
this a khanate army, tribal with limited loyalties, hense the paranoid burial ritual

not everyone's loyal so not eveyone would be included

just like our military
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chris jones on August 08, 2011, 06:49:22 am
this a khanate army, tribal with limited loyalties, hense the paranoid burial ritual
not everyone's loyal so not eveyone would be included
just like our military
Khan's methods were in some ways equal to ours. Hard to beleive, not realy. The one difference is he did this in the open literally conquered more territory than  THE Alexander, though not hidden in an office behind a desk ordering clandestine missions forwarding their dynastys.
 Evil was not masked as it is with parasitic deceptions as this tribe of shiitbags have.
He would send the youngest of his warriors to the front, children, those who survived stepped back and the new captured kids would then take the front. Systematic, effective and physcotic, human life was of no value to him or to those who controll our ongoing abomination.
If your are not on the inside, you are expendable, just as this team. They FKed up this senario, either these men were taken out or have become ghosts (untraceable).
 
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 08, 2011, 07:40:41 am
mongolian burial

the most trusted members of the Khan's troops would bury the Khan with all of his riches, they would leave the burial site and then be killed by the second most trusted, the second most trusted would more away from that site and be killed be then next most trusted, and so on.

Seal team six buried a fake Khan, and was buried for their efforts.

  Seal Team 6 was easy to get rid off.  Not even their families in the USA knew where they were at.  The perfect crime.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chris jones on August 08, 2011, 08:07:58 am
Larson, thanks for that, we know this a set up, but in general uninvolved majority have no idea. Sad isn't it, I remember the party's in the street, the celebration BL was was killed, Pass around the beer Yahoooooo.
 I would enjoy seeing this folks go to Iraq, take a stroll through the streets of blood. Console the family's of the victims.
I haven't lost hope, it may take a cataclysmic event to wake the up, inflation would give them a cold shower, shortage of money. Lifestyles effected. Conscience & honor has not seemed to have revealed their souls, perhaps being broke will.
 
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: AbuMubarak on August 08, 2011, 08:24:06 am

In a statement Saturday, the Taliban claimed its fighters had ambushed Western troops after being tipped off to an imminent night raid in the district. If true, that would amount to a devastating breach of U.S. operational security.

The Taliban statement, from spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid, was unusually specific in some of its details, including the number of troops killed — even before Afghan officials released the number. The statement also confirmed the "martyrdom" of eight of its members in what was described as fierce combat before the helicopter was shot down.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghanistan-chopper-20110807,0,1729289.story?page=2&utm_medium=feed&track=rss&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20latimes%2Fnews%2Fnationworld%2Fworld%20%28L.A.%20Times%20-%20World%20News%29&utm_source=feedburner
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 08, 2011, 08:24:57 am
Larson, thanks for that, we know this a set up, but in general uninvolved majority have no idea. Sad isn't it, I remember the party's in the street, the celebration BL was was killed, Pass around the beer Yahoooooo.
 I would enjoy seeing this folks go to Iraq, take a stroll through the streets of blood. Console the family's of the victims.
I haven't lost hope, it may take a cataclysmic event to wake the up, inflation would give them a cold shower, shortage of money. Lifestyles effected. Conscience & honor has not seemed to have revealed their souls, perhaps being broke will.
 

  You are right Chris--it will take a cataclysmic event but then it will probably be too late.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Ambriel on August 08, 2011, 12:31:11 pm
In a statement Saturday, the Taliban claimed its fighters had ambushed Western troops after being tipped off to an imminent night raid in the district. If true, that would amount to a devastating breach of U.S. operational security.

The Taliban statement, from spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid, was unusually specific in some of its details, including the number of troops killed — even before Afghan officials released the number. The statement also confirmed the "martyrdom" of eight of its members in what was described as fierce combat before the helicopter was shot down.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghanistan-chopper-20110807,0,1729289.story?page=2&utm_medium=feed&track=rss&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20latimes%2Fnews%2Fnationworld%2Fworld%20%28L.A.%20Times%20-%20World%20News%29&utm_source=feedburner



Like I said.

I have a friend whom I am in contact with that is in the intel community in Alexandria, VA and I have gotten some tidbits of info.

Info I am getting is that Rangers were boots on the ground engaging a HVT in the WARDAK area, and pinned down by heavy fire. SEALS were called in for ex-fil and support and after they got the Rangers out they took fire getting out.

No word on if the HVT was captured or KIA, still too classified to get the intel on that.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Jordan on August 08, 2011, 12:36:53 pm

Like I said.

I have a friend whom I am in contact with that is in the intel community in Alexandria, VA and I have gotten some tidbits of info.

Info I am getting is that Rangers were boots on the ground engaging a HVT in the WARDAK area, and pinned down by heavy fire. SEALS were called in for ex-fil and support and after they got the Rangers out they took fire getting out.

No word on if the HVT was captured or KIA, still too classified to get the intel on that.


That much was on the news also.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chris jones on August 08, 2011, 12:48:15 pm

          Zabiullah Mujahid, has claimed he is the go between, the answer man for the Tali's.
 The possibility's are endless, please advise me as to who are our answer men.
           After decades of hearing details like, quite frankly, I don't buy into the front pagers, this is a times cover, a name, a face, sorry I just do not buy it.
           This reminds me of the Nowegian killings. First reporters claimed this was done by AL Q & their offshoots and that they had taken credit for it. Does that raise questions as to the MSM, official reporting, etc.  They are spin masters, battalions of physco geeks who's paychecks are based on their ability of  deception.
            This just came aboard:being tipped off to an imminent night raid in the district. If true, that would amount to a devastating breach of U.S. operational security.   The only secure personell are those sitting behind their desks giving the orders. This whole deal is sketchy. 
     
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Ambriel on August 08, 2011, 03:06:54 pm
That much was on the news also.

I NEVER seen ANYWHERE on the news that there was a Ranger unit on the ground engaging a HVT, or anywhere where where the SEALS were called in as support.

That was NOT on the news the day of the attack.  If I am wrong I am sorry, but I didn't see that anywhere.  My friend is a linguist in the intel community and we chat often.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Ambriel on August 08, 2011, 03:11:53 pm
It is in the news today, yes.  But that info was NOT in the news the day of the Team going down,  Not that I had seen.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Sasha on August 08, 2011, 03:18:53 pm
Khan's methods were in some ways equal to ours. Hard to beleive, not realy. The one difference is he did this in the open literally conquered more territory than  THE Alexander, though not hidden in an office behind a desk ordering clandestine missions forwarding their dynastys.
 Evil was not masked as it is with parasitic deceptions as this tribe of shiitbags have.
He would send the youngest of his warriors to the front, children, those who survived stepped back and the new captured kids would then take the front. Systematic, effective and physcotic, human life was of no value to him or to those who controll our ongoing abomination.
If your are not on the inside, you are expendable, just as this team. They FKed up this senario, either these men were taken out or have become ghosts (untraceable).
Yeah, and no one in the military, save some of the lobbiest Generals, are on the inside.
Kissinger and most of the other warmongering chicken hawks are, like you said, "systematic, effective and psycotic",...  "human life was of no value" to them, and they look down their noses at military folks in particular.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Sasha on August 08, 2011, 03:21:18 pm
  Seal Team 6 was easy to get rid off.  Not even their families in the USA knew where they were at.  The perfect crime.

and, like Colonel 6 and AJ said earlier, the publicity around this op is very telling

no one knew the where, when, and who of the crew, until its publicity was useful
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: chris jones on August 08, 2011, 03:51:52 pm
Yeah, and no one in the military, save some of the lobbiest Generals, are on the inside.
Kissinger and most of the other warmongering chicken hawks are, like you said, "systematic, effective and psycotic",...  "human life was of no value" to them, and they look down their noses at military folks in particular.
Sasha, thats a bump; They consider those in the boots, the mungs, the numbers, the tribe they sucessfully brainwashed with their rhetoric and lies. They praise the fallen as heroes, and behind closed doors (another moron bites the dust). Henry K. said it one time, apes in uniforms or words to that effect.
 Deaths, wounds, mutilations, are set asside for the poor, uneducated, uninformed, psuedo pats, societys  brainwashed children.                              Wars profiteers..
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: stymo1 on August 08, 2011, 07:57:05 pm
The propaganda machine is in high gear tonight on discovery channel. Just finished show about seal team six, complete with another dose of the "OFFICIAL" OBL storyline. Next up... A story on the Norwegian patsy that promises to "look into his mind". They are running scared. I have seen and heard a lot of backlash over the seal team helicopter story and this is their answer? Keep spreading the truth. It seems to be sticking.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Dig on August 09, 2011, 12:00:05 am
In a statement Saturday, the Taliban claimed its fighters had ambushed Western troops after being tipped off to an imminent night raid in the district. If true, that would amount to a devastating breach of U.S. operational security.

The Taliban statement, from spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid, was unusually specific in some of its details, including the number of troops killed — even before Afghan officials released the number. The statement also confirmed the "martyrdom" of eight of its members in what was described as fierce combat before the helicopter was shot down.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghanistan-chopper-20110807,0,1729289.story?page=2&utm_medium=feed&track=rss&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20latimes%2Fnews%2Fnationworld%2Fworld%20%28L.A.%20Times%20-%20World%20News%29&utm_source=feedburner


LA Times is giving us a bullshit narrative manufactured by Lincoln or Renden group. Please take a little time and examine the following links to see how utterly impossible it is for any enemy to get within 100 miles of a defended location without sending up flares to the halls of the Pentagon, Buckingham Palace, the new Kremlin, and over 100 other military locations on the ground, in the sea, in the air, and in space. Before they fired one weapon, all enemy nodes and all threats bigger than a pea shooter would be able to be neutralized considering such a high value target like 31 of the most elite special forces the US Military has ever had.

Full Spectrum Dominance and the NWO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frw87_Fbc8g

Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14046

Full Spectrum Dominance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance

Future Weapons
http://www.lokitimes.com/category/future-weapons/

Future Weapons, Future Wars and the New Arms Race
http://www.thenation.com/article/158190/future-weapons-future-wars-and-new-arms-race

Smart Dust - D.A.R.P.A. Military Technology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHGj6QsJr3w

Future Weapons: AH-6X Little Bird UAV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgCGMfFYg9o

Undersea Spies: Turning Sharks Into Robotic Sentries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDminE8klpY

Robot and Human Soldiers on FutureWeapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyTNHAMDro

Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Dig on August 09, 2011, 09:45:52 pm

SEAL TEAM 6 Exterminated-WhistleBlower 'Colonel Sixx'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgCJzJVQXm0

In this Exclusive Interview Whistleblower 'Colonel Sixx'
has some interesting
insider information to share about the Shinook Helicopter Crash in Afghanistan.
30 men were said to have been killed. 22 said to be Navy SEALS commandos
from SEAL Team Six . He also has info about the Alleged Osama Bin Laden
Assassination ordered by USA Marxist President Barack Husein Obama.
AKA Barry Soetoro.

This is reportedly the largest one day loss of troops in the 10 year war in
Afghanistan and it just happens to be Seal Team 6. So now we are to buy
that the men who took out OBL died in a helicopter crash months after
pulling off the raid. Our inside sources told us months ago that all the Seals
on the helicopter that crashed in the so called OBL raid died, yet the Obama
admin says none were killed.

Witnesses on the ground in Pakistan told national News outlets that the Seals
went in to the compound then came out got in a stealth craft and it exploded.
The video with the witnesses is posted on Infowars.com in our news report
titled "Seal Team 6 Deaths Exposed". Now the globalists may have killed off
the rest of the Seal team that made it out in the other stealth helicopter from
the OBL raid to tie up loose ends. Bottom line the official bin Laden raid story
is a proven fraud so it is no wonder that this story dose not add up.

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This is reportedly the largest one day loss of troops in the 10 year war
in Afghanistan and it just happens to be Seal Team 6. So now we are to
buy that the men who took out OBL died in a helicopter crash months
after pulling off the raid. Our inside sources told us months ago that all
the Seals on the helicopter that crashed in the so called OBL raid died,
yet the Obama admin says none were killed.

Witnesses on the ground in Pakistan told national News outlets that the
Seals went in to the compound then came out got in a stealth craft and
it exploded. The video with the witnesses is posted on Infowars.com in
our news report titled "Seal Team 6 Deaths Exposed". Now the globalists
may have killed off the rest of the Seal team that made it out in the other
stealth helicopter from the OBL raid to tie up loose ends. Bottom line the
official bin Laden raid story is a proven fraud so it is no wonder that this
story dose not add up.

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Title: Re: US officers oppose releasing names of dead troops
Post by: InsideJob on August 09, 2011, 10:06:59 pm
US officers oppose releasing names of dead troops

The chief of the secretive US special operations command has lobbied against the release of names of American commandos killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan, officials said Tuesday.
Thirty US troops were killed on Friday when their Chinook helicopter was shot out of the sky in a remote Afghan valley, but in a break with Pentagon practice, the identities of the dead service members have not been released.
The dead included 22 members of the elite Navy SEAL commandos and three Air Force special operators, and senior officers overseeing the special forces are reluctant to publicly identify the slain troops, officials said...

http://news.yahoo.com/us-officers-oppose-releasing-names-dead-troops-224832007.html (http://news.yahoo.com/us-officers-oppose-releasing-names-dead-troops-224832007.html)

Because if you know who they are, you know where to begin an investigation.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: larsonstdoc on August 09, 2011, 10:08:59 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/us-officers-oppose-releasing-names-dead-troops-224832007.html

  WOULD we expect them to do the right thing?  No.  They are probably not releasing the names because there are probably still more of them MISSING.

US officers oppose releasing names of dead troops
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The chief of the secretive US special operations command has lobbied against the release of names of American commandos killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan, officials said Tuesday.

Thirty US troops were killed on Friday when their Chinook helicopter was shot out of the sky in a remote Afghan valley, but in a break with Pentagon practice, the identities of the dead service members have not been released.
The dead included 22 members of the elite Navy SEAL commandos and three Air Force special operators, and senior officers overseeing the special forces are reluctant to publicly identify the slain troops, officials said.
"There were concerns expressed by the SOCOM (US Special Operations Command) commander about the safety of the members of the unit and their families and the families of the fallen," a senior military officer told AFP.
"He's raised concerns and senior leaders are looking at it right now," the officer added, requesting anonymity.
But officials noted that the names of dead service members are not classified as secret under US law.
Since the loss of the chopper, several families have come forward and publicly identified their loved ones in television interviews.
Admiral Eric Olson, who formally stepped down as SOCOM chief on Monday, has spoken previously about the need to uphold secrecy to protect the safety of servicemen and their families.
Under the Pentagon's rules, the identities of dead service members are released publicly 24 hours after families are notified about the death of their loved ones.
The remains of the 30 US service members killed in the helicopter crash were returned to the United States on Tuesday at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. But despite requests from news organizations, a solemn transfer ceremony at Dover attended by President Barack Obama and other top officials was closed to the media.
The military said the fallen troops could not be identified "due to the catastrophic nature of the crash," and that next-of-kin were not in a position to grant approval for media access to the transfer ceremony.
Obama lifted a blanket ban on media coverage of the return of flag-draped caskets in 2009, allowing families of fallen troops to decide whether to permit cameras.
Documenting the return of troops killed on the battlefield has long been a sensitive political issue and Obama's predecessor, George W. Bush, was accused of trying to hide images of caskets arriving at Dover from the public.
In Afghanistan, the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force has said the CH-47 Chinook was sent in after US ground forces asked for reinforcements in the Tangi valley of Wardak province, southeast of Kabul.
The dead also included five US Army aviators who served as the helicopter crew, seven Afghan commandos and an interpreter.
Title: Re: NCS ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Dig on August 11, 2011, 12:43:01 am
Another reason for the NATO controlled massacre...

NEVER ENDING WAR!



Secret peace talks between US and Taliban collapse over leaks
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8693247/Secret-peace-talks-between-US-and-Taliban-collapse-over-leaks.html
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: calgarylady on September 27, 2011, 11:12:58 pm
I have a feeling those seals died during the fake Osama raid when Pakistani citizens on the ground reported a helicopter blew up and killed every one in it.

This helicopter crash probably never even happened. Just a cover story for the real navy seal deaths during the fake Osama raid.

That's sort of what I was thinking but also there could have been a crash but were all those Seals from Team 6 really on this helicopter. It's my understanding that the helicopter only held 30 safely but were the other names added to the list from soldiers that were blown up in the OBL raid.. meaning those soldiers weren't on the helicopter.. they were already dead.

It just seems the Seals would know better than to overload a helicopter and maybe they didn't.
Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Avidog on November 23, 2011, 03:19:06 am
I have news for you --- those are members of seal team 6 .. same ones that "got Osama" ;)

The Seals are commandos.  This is not new.  Commando units have been flourishing since WW2, maybe earlier.  The raid on Bin Laden's supposed compound in Pakistan was a typical commando operation, except for one thing: it was faked.  Legitimate governments do not murder people, then give them cement overcoats.  That's just gangsterism.  No legitimate government wants to be identified with such tactics; not in reality anyway.  If they are going to kill an adversary and dump his body, you can bet it will be done quietly.  But that's why we know this was not reality.  It was a propaganda show, to convince people that the US government can win the War on Terror as easily as any sixteen-year-old can win a video game.  Obama and his inner circle were even gathered around a video terminal for the event, to make the point crystal clear.  And of course, once they had pulled off the deception, getting rid of the commandos was simply prudent.  As with 9/11, it's amazing that so many people still buy the official version of events...then again, many people bought the magic bullet theory in the murder of JFK, so I guess we should not be too surprised that they also believed this.

Title: Re: US Govt ASSASSINATES 22 Members of Seal Team 6 to Cover Up Fake OBL Death Psyop
Post by: Effie Trinket on November 23, 2011, 04:51:50 am
It was a propaganda show, to convince people that the US government can win the War on Terror as easily as any sixteen-year-old can win a video game.  Obama and his inner circle were even gathered around a video terminal for the event, to make the point crystal clear.
Excellent point.  The other thing that makes that whole fake raid completely laughable is the notion that Obama the puppet gives a flying f*ck about America when he has and is destroying the country in every way imaginable by doing what the Club of Rome orders him to do--that he would suddenly give a f*ck about the "GWOT" which was a psyop anyways, and a euphemism for the Revolution in Military Affairs.

I mean this is how f*cking stupid people are:

"Damn, Obama lied about getting our troops out of Iraq when he said he would."
"Damn, Obama lied when he said he wasn't a warmonger like GWB the puppet."
"Damn, Obama is making us lose jobs."
"Damn, Obama is a tool for the banking elite and is allowing our money to go offshore."
"Damn, Obama supports Monsanto and the FDA."

But then:
"HOLY SH*T, Obama GOT BIN LADEN, I'm suddenly going to forget all of the high treason and anti American shit he has done--HE HAS JUST WON THE WAR ON TERROR, OMFG!!  REELECT HIM NOW, HE KEPT US SAFE!!!!"

Max Boot at the CFR must have been laughing his ass off secretly to the tens of millions of idiots that believed this wicked f*cking bullshit lie of a raid.