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Title: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: charrington on March 28, 2011, 12:14:07 am
During the first five months of last year, a platoon of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan went on a shooting spree, killing at least four unarmed civilians and mutilating several of the corpses. The “kill team” – members of the 5th Stryker Brigade stationed near Kandahar – took scores of photos chronicling their kills and their time in Afghanistan. Even before the war crimes became public, the Pentagon went to extraordinary measures to suppress the photos, launching a massive effort to find every file and pull the pictures out of circulation before they could touch off a scandal on the scale of Abu Ghraib.

The images – more than 150 of which have been obtained by Rolling Stone – portray a front-line culture among U.S. troops in which killing innocent civilians is seen as a cause for celebration. “Most people within the unit disliked the Afghan people,” one of the soldiers told Army investigators. “Everyone would say they’re savages.”

Many of the photos depict explicit images of violent deaths that have yet to be identified by the Pentagon. Among the soldiers, the collection was treated like a war memento. It was passed from man to man on thumb drives and hard drives, the gruesome images of corpses and war atrocities filed alongside clips of TV shows, UFC fights and films such as Iron Man 2. One soldier kept a complete set...
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/photos/the-kill-team-photos-20110327/0602176
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: fireflyblue711 on March 28, 2011, 12:39:26 am
dear god.... :'( :-\ :-\

Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Monkeypox on March 28, 2011, 12:52:52 am
You think those soldiers would hesitate to fire on American citizens if ordered to?
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Scarbo on March 28, 2011, 01:01:50 am
You think those soldiers would hesitate to fire on American citizens if ordered to?

Of course not. There is no conscience there. These sick animals are insane and dangerous.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: notreal73 on March 28, 2011, 01:17:45 am
In NO way am I condoning these acts...

I do point out that asking young men to be killers does have blowback...

Anyone who watched the miniseries "The Pacific" knows what I speak of.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: RonPaulRocks on March 28, 2011, 01:18:40 am
May they burn in hell for this.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Valerius on March 28, 2011, 01:52:16 am
Steven Seagall's one great movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094602/quotes
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Scootle on March 28, 2011, 01:46:02 pm
(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/gallery/93a1f89d75968aabcc96c095bc4f2a73eda158f7.jpg)
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on March 28, 2011, 03:20:15 pm

==============================
"Morlock posing with an Afghan child.
The photos collected by soldiers included many shots of local children,
often filed alongside images of bloody casualties.
At one point, soldiers in 3rd Platoon talked about
throwing candy out of a Stryker vehicle as they drove through a village
and shooting the children who came running to pick up the sweets."


==============================

"Another photo of Afghan children.
According to one soldier, members of 3rd Platoon
also talked about a scenario in which they
“would throw candy out in front and in the rear of the Stryker;
the Stryker would then run the children over.”


==============================

Think these are spontaneous acts of atrocity?
Think these guys would do this without having approval from their commanding officers?
Think this could be happening EVERWHERE we have US Military guys stationed?


NO, this is not spontaneous.
This is the Revolution in Military Affairs (RMA).


The RMA intends to make soldiers act without conscience, because it will 'take over' the actions of soldiers. These are field trials; testing behavior modification of soldiers now for the eventual 'chip' that will govern all military recruits in battle. They can't have their future force soldier with testing their technology. And they are testing their technology NOW.

This is happening everywhere we have soldiers - in Guantanamo, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan - this is PLANNED: dehumanizing, deconstruction of reason, death of logic and conscience; this is the preparation for the RMA's Future Force Soldier.

There are wrecked bodies of their victims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, now Libya...
and the guys who are perpetrating these atrocities will come home as wrecks too...

these guys will wind up either in the brig, or in VA hospitals with PTSD, or dead from heroin overdoses or laying somewhere in a gutter. They are lab rats today, they'll be gutter rats later. They're expendable - so even if their brains are completely messed up by the military, they will have performed their duty as future force soldier test subjects.

Because this is the plan: this is the revolution in military affairs.
If you haven't read the threads about it, please do.

        RMA: Cybernetics applied to the military to later apply domestically worldwide (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=164470.msg977443#msg977443)
   
        Is the US Army 'Kill Team' a Lab Experiment for "Future Soldier Initiative"? (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=204081.msg1219161#msg1219161)

This is planned dehumanization; this is the RMA preparing, testing the technology of behavioral psychological 'modeling' for the future force soldier.

Ask yourself why Obama has put "the Chief Psychologist at Guantanamo in 2003, at the height of the abuses at that camp, and then served in the same position at Abu Ghraib during 2004" in charge of "Enhancing the Psychological Well-Being of The Military Family".

The guy in charge of the torturer chambers is now going to take care of military families?

Top Bush-era GITMO and Abu Ghraib psychologist is WH's newest appointment

By Glenn Greenwald

(http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/03/25/james/md_horiz.jpg)
Dr. Larry James

(Updated below with White House response)

 One of the most intense scandals the field of psychology has faced over the last decade is the involvement of several of its members in enabling Bush's worldwide torture regime. Numerous health professionals worked for the U.S. government to help understand how best to mentally degrade and break down detainees. At the center of that controversy was -- and is -- Dr. Larry James. James, a retired Army colonel, was the Chief Psychologist at Guantanamo in 2003, at the height of the abuses at that camp, and then served in the same position at Abu Ghraib during 2004

Today, Dr. James circulated an excited email announcing, "with great pride," that
he has now been selected to serve on the
"White House Task Force entitled
Enhancing the Psychological Well-Being of The Military Family."
  In his new position, he will be meeting at the White House with Michelle Obama and other White House officials on Tuesday.

More: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/03/25/james/index.html

The guy who's been directing the torture will understand what he's dealing with when his lab rats return home to their families. He'll recognize their behaviors.

That's useful, so the Obama administration/Pentagon gave him the job of followup testing and observations of the future force soldier lab rats back home with their own children.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: charrington on March 29, 2011, 12:39:22 am
The clip presented here is excerpted from 'Motorcycle Kill,' a video collected and shared by members of the “kill team” of U.S. soldiers who murdered civilians in Afghanistan and mutilated the corpses.  The jumpy, 30-minute video – shot by soldiers believed to be with another battalion in the 5th Stryker Brigade – shows American troops gunning down two Afghans on a motorcycle who may have been armed. Even if the killings were part of a legitimate combat engagement, however, it is a clear violation of Army standards to share such footage. The video was taken on patrol with a helmet-mounted camera; at one point, the soldier shooting the images can be heard boasting, “I got it all on camera.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fNhJVs_MA&feature=player_embedded#at=17

Also from Rolling Stone...

The clip presented here is excerpted from 'Death Zone,' a chilling video collected and shared by members of the “kill team” of U.S. soldiers who murdered civilians in Afghanistan and mutilated the corpses. Shot through thermal imaging, the grainy footage shows two Afghans suspected of planting an IED being blown up by an airstrike. While the deaths may have resulted from a legitimate combat engagement, the video itself represents a clear violation of Army standards. Scenes of the attack have been edited into a 15-minute music video, complete with a rock soundtrack and a title card. This clip from the video picks up shortly before the airstrike begins, accompanied by the song “En Vie” by Apocalyptica, a cello rock band from Helsinki. The video ends with grisly still images of the casualties, followed by closing credits. It was passed from soldier to soldier on thumb drives and hard drives, the gruesome video filed alongside clips of TV shows,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NI5-Zht5XE


http://dailybail.com/home/graphic-video-afghanistan-motorcycle-kill.html
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: chris jones on March 29, 2011, 01:29:15 am
  Every society has its share of psychos, so too does the military, and the upper echelon know who and what they are.
Analize the mental state of the creatures who who ordered the grid bombing in Iraq killing thousands upón thousands, knowing in fact Iraq was innocent as well as these people ., families,  woman and children.
 These photos we are seeing will cause extreme emotions, the true face of evil. I agree that these guys need to be in chains, I also feel that every sack of shiite sitting behind their desks from the very beggining orchestrating this abomination are right along with these freaks, in chains.
 4 decades past the military under orders of the elected officals slaughtered 3 Million human beings, and sacrificed 60 thousand American sons to win profits and establish a base of power. Were any of the perpetrators prosecuted, not a one.                What does that say to you?  
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: chris jones on March 29, 2011, 04:44:32 am
 PS.. I missed my point on the above post , Iv'e been doing that lately.
       These mental cases, devout sadists, are out there killing and mutilating, the photos-imagery produces a shocking impact , insanity, evil, horor, sure they do.True yes, but Imagery is involved!
        The other side of the coin, the elite globalists, the scum who orchestrated this, well folks we won't see photos of them cutting off fingers, murdering. What we will see is these freaks in their finery all suited up,, on center stage, behind their podiums, on the tube, playing their parts, deceiving us they order genocide. Imagery, the message sent to the masses, the all American rhetoric, the Johny clean hands. I emphasize this, tdays high tech has left behind the old adage the pen is mightier than the sword, its now the imagery & symbolism, the boob tube, MSN talking heads. The NWO use this to the fullest. Did I get there??
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on March 29, 2011, 07:06:26 am
Please read the text that was served up by Rolling Stone along with the pictures.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/photos/the-kill-team-photos-20110327/0602176

During the first five months of last year, a platoon of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan went on a shooting spree, killing at least four unarmed civilians and mutilating several of the corpses. The “kill team” – members of the 5th Stryker Brigade stationed near Kandahar – took scores of photos chronicling their kills and their time in Afghanistan. Even before the war crimes became public, the Pentagon went to extraordinary measures to suppress the photos, launching a massive effort to find every file and pull the pictures out of circulation before they could touch off a scandal on the scale of Abu Ghraib.

The images – more than 150 of which have been obtained by Rolling Stone – portray a front-line culture among U.S. troops in which killing innocent civilians is seen as a cause for celebration. “Most people within the unit disliked the Afghan people,” one of the soldiers told Army investigators. “Everyone would say they’re savages.”

Many of the photos depict explicit images of violent deaths that have yet to be identified by the Pentagon. Among the soldiers, the collection was treated like a war memento. It was passed from man to man on thumb drives and hard drives, the gruesome images of corpses and war atrocities filed alongside clips of TV shows, UFC fights and films such as Iron Man 2. One soldier kept a complete set, which he made available to anyone who asked.

==================================

I think that this was a test group, not a few soldiers who are psychotic serial killers, who enlisted for the pleasure of murdering innocents. This is a "platoon" of soldiers; a group, isolated from other groups, perhaps on a drug-induced or otherwise mind-controlled rage. They were a "kill team".

A team, or a control group?

The beasts conducting these experiments are bringing in the Revolution in Military Affairs; and a significant piece of their goal is to control soldiers in the field; to 'augment' their reality via implanted chips, drugs, real-time communication with each soldier telling him where to go, what to do, who to kill.

The other 'phase' is to 'wipe memory' - to avoid post-traumatic stress disorder by erasing any memories that soldiers might have that would cause them to have post-traumatic stress disorder once they return from the war.

And, the Rolling Stone article points out, they kept their photos of atrocities along side their copies of IronMan2.

Iron Man 2?

Iron Man 2 - Augmented Reality Experience  
www.iamironman2.com/uk/

And the next step after this will be -

transhumanism.

...

This is where all this is heading towards - the Revolution in Military Affairs changes society entirely, installs the control grid/smart grid into place, then the transhumanists carry out the next 'revolution', which will be earmarked by a 'bio shock' - the 'shock' of having people amputate their limbs and upgrading themselves with robot arms and so on - and after that, nanofactories become more and more commonplace, civil wars between humans and transhumanists.

Why does this new 'transhumanist' society need 'sense & respond' logistics/supply chains and a 'Global Information Grid'? Well, why do I even need to answer that? Because 'transhumanists' are 'computerized' - so all those sensors, wireless networks and 'metadata' (as in - RFID tags) will give these transhumanists a new plane of reality and existence - liken it to a 'dimension' running in parallel with the one we accept to be 'reality' - these transhumanist ghouls will get 'augmented reality' through this new dimension.


You need to understand what the military is doing right now - they're building their "Future Force Soldiers" - a goal of the RMA.
They do this by using video games, movies, virtual reality technology, "fun things" to indoctrinate soldiers (and future soldiers playing games in their homes - kids).

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=124006.msg935471#msg935471

Watch THIS and pay CLOSE ATTENTION to the AUDIO (in english):
Because the game developer had information from the US military to use in creating this game. Because the US Military has spent billions in developing games as indoctrination; for the future force soldiers.

Any kid playing these games today will be thrilled to enlist in a military that will be 'just like my videogame' - they're being conditioned to accept this.

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/Pilikia_photos/healthbars.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTn_JGJ5dR0&fmt=35)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTn_JGJ5dR0&fmt=35

Anyone who plays videogames will recognize the "health bars" - the stats that are kept on each soldier. You've seen this with your characters in videogames --- this is part of the future force soldier PLAN in the RMA.
They will have real-time tracking of each soldier's physical and mental state. They are doing this NOW. This is REAL folks - a plan to have COMPLETE CONTROL over every soldier on the battlefield.

So it should not be surprising that RIGHT NOW they are testing their ability to control soldiers in battle.
And they have many 'labs' - in Abu Ghraib, in Guantanamo, in Afghanistan, Pakistan, now Libya.
Expect to hear more about 'platoons' of soldiers engaged in incomprehensible acts of atrocity.
These are the test subjects.

And they won't be finished with their test subjects when these guys come home.
They've got the head psychologist, formerly in charge of two torture centers, now running the White House task force called, "Enhancing the Psychological Well-Being of The Military Family". (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=204552.msg1222388#msg1222388)

Because that is another very important part of the experiment: what happens when these guys come home? Can their memories be wiped? Having "complete sets of photos" of the atrocities will be useful for the scientists to see if their memory-wipe technology works.

Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on March 29, 2011, 07:16:57 am
PS.. I missed my point on the above post , Iv'e been doing that lately.
       These mental cases, devout sadists, are out there killing and mutilating, the photos-imagery produces a shocking impact , insanity, evil, horor, sure they do.True yes, but Imagery is involved!
        The other side of the coin, the elite globalists, the scum who orchestrated this, well folks we won't see photos of them cutting off fingers, murdering. What we will see is these freaks in their finery all suited up,, on center stage, behind their podiums, on the tube, playing their parts, deceiving us they order genocide. Imagery, the message sent to the masses, the all American rhetoric, the Johny clean hands. I emphasize this, todays high tech has left behind the old adage the pen is mightier than the sword, its now the imagery & symbolism, the boob tube, MSN talking heads. The NWO use this to the fullest.

Did I get there??

Yes you got there Chris - these images are being published for a reason.
Shock and awe. This time, the shock and awe of our own soldiers commiting horrifying acts of brutality.

And, as you suggest, the orchestrators - these whores - are sitting behind desks back at the Pentagon, the White House, at RAND Corporation, at NCOIC, AFCEA, CSIS, and every other military-industrial complex office.

Check this out:
AMERICA'S CHEMICALLY MODIFIED 21ST CENTURY SOLDIERS
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=38638.msg168112#msg168112
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: NWOSCUM on March 29, 2011, 08:43:28 am
You think those soldiers would hesitate to fire on American citizens if ordered to?

MAYBE that's what they are being conditioned to do??   :'(
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on March 29, 2011, 09:01:31 am
MAYBE that's what they are being conditioned to do??   :'(

If you watch the video I linked above:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTn_JGJ5dR0&fmt=35

You'll note that the ENEMY GROUP is called THE PATRIOTS.
Now, how's that for indoctrination?
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: larsonstdoc on March 29, 2011, 09:11:16 am


  I hate to say it but here it goes--it starts with the video games, BY DESIGN---the desensitization of the young people.  Of course you all know that.

  This is as sick as it gets.  The US soldiers are the new Scythians. 
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: chris jones on March 29, 2011, 09:15:22 am
MAYBE that's what they are being conditioned to do??   :'(
The agency CIA at the time under the direction of Colby and Abhrams set into motion the Pheonix Program. Basicaly asassinations, the men were profiled, picked, chosen, the BRASS were  artfull, nothing changes does it, though they have improved and advanced.
  The selected ones were given libertys  far above that of an average trooper, bennys, such as (get out of jail free cards, the nickname) they could not be detained by MP's etc. Above military law so to speak, as were teams of snipers who's missions came down from intell, NVA paymasters and courriers were their prime target.
   This present kill team was sanctioned, this group was profiled, the reason for the exposure lays at the feet of the killers-photos, I'm sure they were protected up to this point.. The controllers knew exactly what these men were doing though we would be hard pressed to see them admit it. The term we gave this type of guy, kill crazy. The machine needs hitters, I can but imagine how far they have extended their methods.  END-A long story I won't get into it, surfice to say those snipers I knew were capable of killing anyone, I doubt these guys would care one way or another about nationality.
  
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on March 30, 2011, 05:43:30 am
From the Rolling Stone article:
Quote

The images – more than 150 of which have been obtained by Rolling Stone – portray a front-line culture among U.S. troops in which killing innocent civilians is seen as a cause for celebration. “Most people within the unit disliked the Afghan people,” one of the soldiers told Army investigators. “Everyone would say they’re savages.”


National Security Aid to Advisor considers Libya "Turd Sandwich"
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=204768.msg1223775#msg1223775

As you can see, the "front-line" extends all the way back to Washington DC.


Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on March 30, 2011, 06:51:03 am
=======================================

When a physician's assistant examined Stoner the next day, she saw the angry red welts covering his body. She also saw the large tattoo across Stoner's back. In gothic type, beneath a grinning red skull flanked by two grim reapers, it read:

what if im not the hero
what if im the bad guy


OP Note: this was TATTOOED on the back of one of the "kill team" members.
This is some seriously incriminating evidence of a mind control, indoctrination program.
It signifies the guy's confusion, he's asking, "Who am I?"


=======================================

The Kill Team
How U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan murdered
innocent civilians and mutilated their corpses –

and how their officers failed to stop them.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-kill-team-20110327?page=8
By Mark Boal
MARCH 27, 2011 10:00 PM ET

Early last year, after six hard months soldiering in Afghanistan, a group of American infantrymen reached a momentous decision: It was finally time to kill a haji.

Among the men of Bravo Company, the notion of killing an Afghan civilian had been the subject of countless conversations, during lunchtime chats and late-night bull sessions. For weeks, they had weighed the ethics of bagging "savages" and debated the probability of getting caught. Some of them agonized over the idea; others were gung-ho from the start. But not long after the New Year, as winter descended on the arid plains of Kandahar Province, they agreed to stop talking and actually pull the trigger.

Bravo Company had been stationed in the area since summer, struggling, with little success, to root out the Taliban and establish an American presence in one of the most violent and lawless regions of the country. On the morning of January 15th, the company's 3rd Platoon – part of the 5th Stryker Brigade, based out of Tacoma, Washington – left the mini-metropolis of tents and trailers at Forward Operating Base Ramrod in a convoy of armored Stryker troop carriers. The massive, eight-wheeled trucks surged across wide, vacant stretches of desert, until they came to La Mohammad Kalay, an isolated farming village tucked away behind a few poppy fields.

To provide perimeter security, the soldiers parked the Strykers at the outskirts of the settlement, which was nothing more than a warren of mud-and-straw compounds. Then they set out on foot. Local villagers were suspected of supporting the Taliban, providing a safe haven for strikes against U.S. troops. But as the soldiers of 3rd Platoon walked through the alleys of La Mohammad Kalay, they saw no armed fighters, no evidence of enemy positions. Instead, they were greeted by a frustratingly familiar sight: destitute Afghan farmers living without electricity or running water; bearded men with poor teeth in tattered traditional clothes; young kids eager for candy and money. It was impossible to tell which, if any, of the villagers were sympathetic to the Taliban. The insurgents, for their part, preferred to stay hidden from American troops, striking from a distance with IEDs.

While the officers of 3rd Platoon peeled off to talk to a village elder inside a compound, two soldiers walked away from the unit until they reached the far edge of the village. There, in a nearby poppy field, they began looking for someone to kill. "The general consensus was, if we are going to do something that f**king crazy, no one wanted anybody around to witness it," one of the men later told Army investigators.

The poppy plants were still low to the ground at that time of year. The two soldiers, Cpl. Jeremy Morlock and Pfc. Andrew Holmes, saw a young farmer who was working by himself among the spiky shoots. Off in the distance, a few other soldiers stood sentry. But the farmer was the only Afghan in sight. With no one around to witness, the timing was right. And just like that, they picked him for execution.

He was a smooth-faced kid, about 15 years old. Not much younger than they were: Morlock was 21, Holmes was 19. His name, they would later learn, was Gul Mudin, a common name in Afghanistan. He was wearing a little cap and a Western-style green jacket. He held nothing in his hand that could be interpreted as a weapon, not even a shovel. The expression on his face was welcoming. "He was not a threat," Morlock later confessed.

Morlock and Holmes called to him in Pashto as he walked toward them, ordering him to stop. The boy did as he was told. He stood still.

The soldiers knelt down behind a mud-brick wall. Then Morlock tossed a grenade toward Mudin, using the wall as cover. As the grenade exploded, he and Holmes opened fire, shooting the boy repeatedly at close range with an M4 carbine and a machine gun.

Mudin buckled, went down face first onto the ground. His cap toppled off. A pool of blood congealed by his head.

The loud report of the guns echoed all around the sleepy farming village. The sound of such unexpected gunfire typically triggers an emergency response in other soldiers, sending them into full battle mode. Yet
when the shots rang out, some soldiers didn't seem especially alarmed,
even when the radio began to squawk. It was Morlock, agitated, screaming that he had come under attack. On a nearby hill, Spc. Adam Winfield turned to his friend, Pfc. Ashton Moore, and explained that it probably wasn't a real combat situation. It was more likely a staged killing, he said – a plan the guys had hatched to take out an unarmed Afghan without getting caught.

Back at the wall, soldiers arriving on the scene found the body and the bloodstains on the ground. Morlock and Holmes were crouched by the wall, looking excited. When a staff sergeant asked them what had happened, Morlock said the boy had been about to attack them with a grenade. "We had to shoot the guy," he said.

It was an unlikely story: a lone Taliban fighter, armed with only a grenade, attempting to ambush a platoon in broad daylight, let alone in an area that offered no cover or concealment. Even the top officer on the scene, Capt. Patrick Mitchell, thought there was something strange about Morlock's story. "I just thought it was weird that someone would come up and throw a grenade at us," Mitchell later told investigators.

But Mitchell did not order his men to render aid to Mudin, whom he believed might still be alive, and possibly a threat. Instead, he ordered Staff Sgt. Kris Sprague to "make sure" the boy was dead. Sprague raised his rifle and fired twice.

As the soldiers milled around the body, a local elder who had been working in the poppy field came forward and accused Morlock and Holmes of murder. Pointing to Morlock, he said that the soldier, not the boy, had thrown the grenade. Morlock and the other soldiers ignored him.

To identify the body, the soldiers fetched the village elder who had been speaking to the officers that morning. But by tragic coincidence, the elder turned out to be the father of the slain boy. His moment of grief-stricken recognition, when he saw his son lying in a pool of blood, was later recounted in the flat prose of an official Army report. "The father was very upset," the report noted.

The father's grief did nothing to interrupt the pumped-up mood that had broken out among the soldiers. Following the routine Army procedure required after every battlefield death, they cut off the dead boy's clothes and stripped him naked to check for identifying tattoos. Next they scanned his iris and fingerprints, using a portable biometric scanner.

(OP note: They desecrated the dead boy's body in front of his father, and Rolling Stone fails to point this out. They toss it in as 'routine'.)

Then, in a break with protocol, the soldiers began taking photographs of themselves celebrating their kill.

(OP note: Where was the dead boy's father at this point? Rolling Stone fails to ask the question.)

Holding a cigarette rakishly in one hand, Holmes posed for the camera with Mudin's bloody and half-naked corpse, grabbing the boy's head by the hair as if it were a trophy deer. Morlock made sure to get a similar memento.

No one seemed more pleased by the kill than Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs, the platoon's popular and hard-charging squad leader. "It was like another day at the office for him," one soldier recalls. Gibbs started "messing around with the kid," moving his arms and mouth and "acting like the kid was talking." Then, using a pair of razor-sharp medic's shears, he reportedly sliced off the dead boy's pinky finger and gave it to Holmes, as a trophy for killing his first Afghan.

According to his fellow soldiers, Holmes took to carrying the finger with him in a zip-lock bag. "He wanted to keep the finger forever and wanted to dry it out," one of his friends would later report. "He was proud of his finger."

After the killing, the soldiers involved in Mudin's death were not disciplined or punished in any way.

Emboldened, the platoon went on a shooting spree over the next four months that claimed the lives of at least three more innocent civilians. When the killings finally became public last summer, the Army moved aggressively to frame the incidents as the work of a "rogue unit" operating completely on its own, without the knowledge of its superiors. Military prosecutors swiftly charged five low-ranking soldiers with murder, and the Pentagon clamped down on any information about the killings. Soldiers in Bravo Company were barred from giving interviews, and lawyers for the accused say their clients faced harsh treatment if they spoke to the press, including solitary confinement. No officers were charged.

(OP note: "rogue unit" = "lone gunman". After 4 months of this, their "superiors" had "no knowledge" of this?)

But a review of internal Army records and investigative files obtained by Rolling Stone, including dozens of interviews with members of Bravo Company compiled by military investigators, indicates that the dozen infantrymen being portrayed as members of a secretive "kill team" were operating out in the open, in plain view of the rest of the company. Far from being clandestine, as the Pentagon has implied, the murders of civilians were common knowledge among the unit and understood to be illegal by "pretty much the whole platoon," according to one soldier who complained about them. Staged killings were an open topic of conversation, and at least one soldier from another battalion in the 3,800-man Stryker Brigade participated in attacks on unarmed civilians. "The platoon has a reputation," a whistle-blower named Pfc. Justin Stoner told the Army Criminal Investigation Command. "They have had a lot of practice staging killings and getting away with it."

(OP note: this "kill team" was not the only group, it's the only one that has been exposed.)

From the start, the questionable nature of the killings was on the radar of senior Army leadership. Within days of the first murder, Rolling Stone has learned, Mudin's uncle descended on the gates of FOB Ramrod, along with 20 villagers from La Mohammad Kalay, to demand an investigation. "They were sitting at our front door," recalls Lt. Col. David Abrahams, the battalion's second in command. During a four-hour meeting with Mudin's uncle, Abrahams was informed that several children in the village had seen Mudin killed by soldiers from 3rd Platoon. The battalion chief ordered the soldiers to be reinterviewed, but Abrahams found "no inconsistencies in their story," and the matter was dropped. "It was cut and dry to us at the time," Abrahams recalls.

Other officers were also in a position to question the murders. Neither 3rd Platoon's commander, Capt. Matthew Quiggle, nor 1st Lt. Roman Ligsay has been held accountable for their unit's actions, despite their repeated failure to report killings that they had ample reason to regard as suspicious. In fact, supervising the murderous platoon, or even having knowledge of the crimes, seems to have been no impediment to career advancement. Ligsay has actually been promoted to captain, and a sergeant who joined the platoon in April became a team leader even though he "found out about the murders from the beginning," according to a soldier who cooperated with the Army investigation.

Indeed, it would have been hard not to know about the murders, given that the soldiers of 3rd Platoon took scores of photographs chronicling their kills and their time in Afghanistan. The photos, obtained by Rolling Stone, portray a front-line culture among U.S. troops in which killing Afghan civilians is less a reason for concern than a cause for celebration. "Most people within the unit disliked the Afghan people, whether it was the Afghan National Police, the Afghan National Army or locals," one soldier explained to investigators. "Everyone would say they're savages." One photo shows a hand missing a finger. Another depicts a severed head being maneuvered with a stick, and still more show bloody body parts, blown-apart legs, mutilated torsos. Several show dead Afghans, lying on the ground or on Stryker vehicles, with no weapons in view.

In many of the photos it is unclear whether the bodies are civilians or Taliban, and it is possible that the unidentified deaths involved no illegal acts by U.S. soldiers. But it is a violation of Army standards to take such photos of the dead, let alone share them with others. Among the soldiers, the collection was treated like a war memento. It was passed from man to man on thumb drives and hard drives, the gruesome images of corpses and war atrocities filed alongside clips of TV shows, UFC fights and films such as Iron Man 2. One soldier kept a complete set, which he made available to anyone who asked.

The collection also includes several videos shot by U.S. troops. In a jumpy, 30-minute clip titled "Motorcycle Kill," soldiers believed to be with another battalion in the Stryker Brigade gun down two Afghans on a motorcycle who may have been armed. One of the most chilling files shows two Afghans suspected of planting an IED being blown up in an airstrike. Shot through thermal imaging, the grainy footage has been edited into a music video, complete with a rock soundtrack and a title card that reads 'death zone.'

Even before the war crimes became public, the Pentagon went to extraordinary measures to suppress the photos – an effort that reached the highest levels of both governments. Gen. Stanley McChrystal and President Hamid Karzai were reportedly briefed on the photos as early as May, and the military launched a massive effort to find every file and pull the pictures out of circulation before they could touch off a scandal on the scale of Abu Ghraib. Investigators in Afghanistan searched the hard drives and confiscated the computers of more than a dozen soldiers, ordering them to delete any provocative images. The Army Criminal Investigation Command also sent agents fanning out across America to the homes of soldiers and their relatives, gathering up every copy of the files they could find. The message was clear: What happens in Afghanistan stays in Afghanistan.

By suppressing the photos, however, the Army may also have been trying to keep secret evidence that the killings of civilians went beyond a few men in 3rd Platoon.

In one image, two dead Afghans have been tied together, their hands bound, and placed alongside a road. A sign – handwritten on cardboard from a discarded box of rations – hangs around their necks. It reads "Taliban are Dead." The Pentagon says it is investigating the photos, but insists that there is little more investigators can do to identify the men. "It's a mystery," says a Pentagon spokesman. "To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure they know where to take it next. All we have is two apparently dead Afghans handcuffed to each other against a mile marker. We don't know much beyond that. For all we know, those two guys may have been killed by the Taliban for being sympathizers."

But such statements suggest that the Pentagon isn't following every lead. A Stryker vehicle in the photos, for example, bears identifying marks that are clearly visible in the image. And according to a source in Bravo Company, who spoke to Rolling Stone on the condition of anonymity, the two unarmed men in the photos were killed by soldiers from another platoon, which has not yet been implicated in the scandal.

"Those were some innocent farmers that got killed," the source says. "Their standard operating procedure after killing dudes was to drag them up to the side of the highway."

Army prosecutors insist that blame for the killings rests with a soldier near the bottom of the Stryker Brigade's totem pole: Calvin Gibbs, a three-tour veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan who served as a squad leader in 3rd Platoon. Morlock and five soldiers charged with lesser crimes have pleaded guilty in exchange for testifying against Gibbs, who faces life in prison for three counts of premeditated murder.

The 26-year-old staff sergeant has been widely portrayed as a sociopath of Mansonesque proportions, a crazed killer with a "pure hatred for all Afghans" who was detested and feared by those around him. But the portrait omits evidence that the Army's own investigators gathered from soldiers in Bravo Company. "Gibbs is very well-liked in the platoon by his seniors, peers and subordinates alike," Spc. Adam Kelly reported, adding that Gibbs was "one of the best NCOs I've ever had the pleasure of working with in my military career. I believe that because of his experience, more people came back alive and uninjured than would have without him having been part of the platoon." Another soldier described Gibbs as an "upbeat guy, very funny. He was one of those guys you could talk to about anything and he would make you feel better about the situation."

At six-feet-four and 220 pounds, Gibbs could certainly intimidate those around him. Growing up in a devout Mormon family in Billings, Montana, he had dropped out of high school to get an equivalency degree and enlist in the Army. He plunged into soldiering, accumulating a slew of medals in Iraq, where the line between legitimate self-defense and civilian deaths was often blurry at best. In 2004, Gibbs and other soldiers allegedly fired on an unarmed Iraqi family near Kirkuk, killing two adults and a child. The incident, which was not prosecuted at the time, is now under investigation by the Army.

Before he joined Bravo Company in November 2009, Gibbs worked on the personal security detail for one of the top commanders in Afghanistan, a controversial, outspoken colonel named Harry Tunnell. Tunnell, who at the time was the commander of 5th Stryker Brigade, openly mocked the military's approach to counterinsurgency – which emphasizes the need to win the support of local civilians – as better suited to a "social scientist." "Political correctness dictates that we cannot talk about the oppressive measures employed during successful counterinsurgency campaigns," he wrote. Tunnell also pushed his men to go after "guerrilla hunter killers," insisting that the enemy "must be attacked relentlessly."

When Gibbs left Tunnell's detail and arrived at the front, he quickly became an extreme version of a relentless attacker. After he took command, Gibbs put a pirate flag on his tent. "Hey, brother," he told a friend. "Come down to the line and we'll find someone to kill." A tattoo on his left shin featured a pair of crossed rifles offset by six skulls. Three of the skulls, colored in red, represented his kills in Iraq. The others, in blue, were from Afghanistan.

By the time Gibbs arrived, morale in the Stryker Brigade had hit rock bottom. Only four months earlier, the unit had been deployed to Afghanistan amid a chorus of optimism about its eight-wheeled armored vehicles, a technological advancement that was supposed to move infantry to the battlefield more quickly and securely, enabling U.S. troops to better strike against the Taliban. By December, however, those hopes had dissolved. The Taliban had forced the Strykers off the roads simply by increasing the size and explosive force of their IEDs, and the brigade had suffered terrible casualties; one battalion had lost more soldiers in action than any since the start of the war. Gibbs, in fact, had been brought in after a squad leader had his legs blown off by an IED.

The soldiers were bored and shellshocked and angry. They had been sent to Afghanistan as part of a new advance guard on a mission to track down the Taliban, but the enemy was nowhere to be found. "To be honest, I couldn't tell the difference between local nationals and combatants," one soldier later confessed. During the unit's first six months in Afghanistan, the Taliban evaded almost every patrol that 3rd Platoon sent out. Frustrations ran so high that when the unit came across the body of an insurgent killed by a helicopter gunship in November 2009, one soldier took out a hunting knife and stabbed the corpse. According to another soldier, Gibbs began playing with a pair of scissors near the dead man's hands. "I wonder if these can cut off a finger?" Gibbs asked.

The Pentagon's top command, rather than addressing the morale problems, actually held up the brigade as a media-worthy example of progress in the war. The month after the helicopter incident – only four weeks before the killings began – the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, paid a heavily publicized visit to the area. The military's strategy of counterinsurgency, he reminded members of 5th Stryker Brigade, required them to win hearts and minds by protecting the population. "If we're killing local civilians," he cautioned, "we're going to strategically lose."

Gibbs had a different idea about how to breathe new life into 3rd Platoon. Not long after he arrived, he explained to his fellow soldiers that they didn't have to wait passively to be attacked by the enemy's IEDs. They could strike back by hitting people in towns known to be sympathetic to the Taliban. "Gibbs told everyone about this scenario by pitching it – by saying that all these Afghans were savages, and we had just lost one of our squad leaders because his legs got blown off by an IED," Morlock recalled. Killing an Afghan – any Afghan – became a way to avenge the loss.

The members of Bravo Company began to talk incessantly about killing Afghans as they went about their daily chores, got stoned or relaxed over a game of Warhammer. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle) One idea, proposed half in jest, was to throw candy out of a Stryker vehicle as they drove through a village and shoot the children who came running to pick up the sweets. According to one soldier, they also talked about a second scenario in which they "would throw candy out in front and in the rear of the Stryker; the Stryker would then run the children over." Another elaborate plan involved waiting for an IED attack, then using the explosion as an excuse to kill civilians. That way, the soldiers reasoned, "you could shoot anyone in the general area and get away with it."

"We were operating in such bad places and not being able to do anything about it," Morlock said in a phone interview from the jail at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state. "I guess that's why we started taking things into our own hands."

After killing the Afghan boy at La Mohammad Kalay, members of 3rd Platoon were jubilant. "They were high-fiving each other about having killed the guy," one soldier recalled. They put the corpse in a black body bag and stowed it on top of their Stryker for the ride back to FOB Ramrod. No sooner had they arrived at the base than they were recounting the tale to soldiers they barely knew.

A few hours after the shooting, during a routine checkup at the base's clinic, Holmes and Morlock bragged about having killed an insurgent to Alyssa Reilly, a fair-skinned, blond medic who was popular among the men in the unit. Reilly later paid the soldiers a social visit, and they all sat around playing spades. When it came time for their wager, Morlock and Holmes said they would bet a finger. Then they tossed the finger that Gibbs had sliced from Mudin's body on the card pile. "I thought it was gross," Reilly told investigators.

Morlock was particularly eager to volunteer the truth to his fellow soldiers, evidently unconcerned about how they would react to his having murdered an unarmed Afghan. The same evening he shot Mudin, several members of Bravo Company convened in the privacy of a Stryker vehicle for a nightcap of hashish, a common activity among the unit. Hash supplied by Afghan translators was a major part of the daily lives of many soldiers; they smoked up constantly, getting high in their vehicles, their housing units, even porta-potties. Now, in the tanklike interior of the Stryker, surrounded by its mesh of wires and periscopes and thermal-imaging computers, Morlock passed the hash and recounted the killing in detail, even explaining how he had been careful not to leave the grenade's spoon and pin on the ground, where they might have been used as evidence that a U.S. weapon had been involved in the attack. For the same reason, he'd also been careful to brush away traces of white explosive powder around Mudin's body.

Before the military found itself short of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, Morlock was the kind of
bad-news kid whom the Army might have passed on. He grew up not far from Sarah Palin in Wasilla, Alaska; his sister hung out with Bristol, and Morlock played hockey against Track.

(OP note: This is Rolling Stone Magazine, adding the sub-text "see what the "Right" does? Injecting political opinion in a subversive way; taking advantage of that fact that by this point, in reading this lengthy horror story, your subconscious has been assaulted to the point where you are now subject to 'suggestion' ... they drop this in an 'oh, by the way' phrase. Cognitive manipulation. A "nudge".)

In those days, he was constantly in trouble: getting drunk and into fights, driving without a license, leaving the scene of a serious car accident. Even after he joined the Army, Morlock continued to get into trouble. In 2009, a month before he deployed to Afghanistan, he was charged with disorderly conduct after burning his wife with a cigarette. After he arrived in Afghanistan, he did any drug he could get his hands on: opium, hash, Ambien, amitriptyline, flexeril, phenergan, codeine, trazodone.

As Morlock bragged about the killing, word of the murder spread back home to families and friends. Soldiers e-mailed photos to their buddies and talked about the killing during visits home. On February 14th, three months before the Army launched its investigation, Spc. Adam Winfield sent a Facebook message to his father, Chris, back in Cape Coral, Florida. A skinny, bookish 21-year-old, Winfield was pissed off at being disciplined by Gibbs. "There are people in my platoon that have gotten away with murder," he told his father. "Everyone pretty much knows it was staged. . . . They all don't care." Winfield added that the victim was "some innocent guy about my age, just farming."

During Facebook chats, Winfield continued to keep his father in the loop. "Adam told me that he heard the group was planning on another murder involving an innocent Afghanistan man," Chris Winfield, himself a veteran, later told investigators. "They were going to kill him and drop an AK-47 on him to make it look like he was the bad guy." Alarmed, the elder Winfield called the command center at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, and told the sergeant on duty what was going on. But according to Winfield, the sergeant simply shrugged it off, telling him that "stuff like that happens" and that "it would be sorted out when Adam got home." Tragically, commanders at the base did nothing to follow up on the report.

Back in Afghanistan, Winfield was having second thoughts about reporting the incident. He believed the killings were wrong, but he had finally earned a place in the "circle of trust" erected by Gibbs, who had started off thinking of him as too "weak" to belong to the kill team. Reversing course, he begged his father to stop contacting the Army, saying that he feared for his life. Winfield said Gibbs had warned him that if he told anyone about the murder, he would "go home in a body bag." His father agreed to keep the matter quiet.

(OP note: Did a similar "kill team" kill Pat Tillman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1568334/)? Did he refuse to keep his mouth shut? (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=481.0))

Given the lack of response from their superiors, the soldiers of 3rd Platoon now believed they could kill with impunity – provided they planted "drop weapons" at the scene to frame their victims as enemy combatants. The presence of a weapon virtually guaranteed that a shooting would be considered a legitimate kill, even under the stricter rules of engagement the military had implemented as a key element of counterinsurgency. A drop weapon was the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card. And in the chaotic war zone, they were easy to find.

The military keeps close track of the weapons and ammunition it issues to soldiers, carefully documenting every grenade exploded, every magazine expended. So Gibbs made it his business to gather "off the books" weapons through a variety of channels. He got friendly with guys in the Afghan National Police and tried to trade them porn magazines in exchange for rocket-propelled grenades; he cajoled other units to give him munitions; he scrounged for broken and discarded UXO – unexploded ordnance – until he had collected a motley arsenal of random weaponry, old frag grenades, bent RPG tails, duct-taped claymore mines, C-4, mortar rounds. His best find was a working AK-47 with a folding butt stock and two magazines, which he pulled from the wreckage of an Afghan National Police vehicle that had been blown up near the base's gate. Gibbs placed the AK-47 and the magazines in a metal box in one of the Strykers. Later, a corporal named Emmitt Quintal discovered the gun and wondered what it was doing there. As he recalled, Staff Sgt. David Bram "sat me down and explained to me that it was basically to cover our ass if anything happened."

Two weeks after the murder of Gul Mudin, something did.

It was the night of January 27th and the platoon was driving along the highway near their forward operating base. Suddenly, through their thermal imaging, they spotted a human heat signature on the side of the road – a potentially suspicious sign, since the Taliban often operate at night, using the cover of darkness to plant IEDs.

The patrol stopped 100 yards away from the man, and a handful of soldiers and an interpreter got out of their vehicles. They could see that the man was crouched down, or curled up like a ball close to the ground. As they approached, the man stood up and held his arms in front of his chest. To the soldiers, the motion was either an indication that he was cold, or that he was hiding a suicide-bomb vest.

Shouting to the man in Pashto, the soldiers illuminated him with intense, high-power spotlights and ordered him to lift up his shirt. But the man began to pace back and forth in the blinding white light, ignoring their calls. "He was acting strange," recalls a soldier. For several minutes the man shuffled around as the soldiers fired warning shots at him. The bullets skipped around him.

Then – ignoring the warnings – the man began walking toward the troops. "Fire!" someone yelled. Gibbs opened fire, followed by at least five other soldiers. In the course of a few seconds, they expended approximately 40 rounds.

The man's body lay on the ground. He turned out to be completely unarmed. According to official statements made by several soldiers, he also appears to have been deaf or mentally disabled. Above his beard, a large portion of his skull was missing, blown away by the hail of bullets. Spc. Michael Wagnon collected a piece of the skull and kept it as a trophy.

It was the team's second killing of an unarmed man in as many weeks, and the second time they violated a body. But rather than investigate the shooting, the platoon's officers concentrated on trying to justify it. When 1st Lt. Roman Ligsay radioed Capt. Matthew Quiggle, the platoon's commanding officer, and informed him that the same unit had shot an unarmed Afghan male, the captain was furious. "He strongly believed that we had illegitimately killed a local national," recalls Quintal.

Quiggle ordered Ligsay to search until they found a weapon. "Lt. Ligsay was pretty freaked out," Quintal recalls. "He was positive he was going to lose his job." For the next hour the platoon swept the area with their flashlights looking for weapons, but they couldn't find anything.

Then Staff Sgt. Bram ordered Quintal to hand him the AK-47 magazine that Gibbs had stowed in the metal box in the Stryker. A private named Justin Stoner passed it down. A few minutes later, a voice called out in the darkness. "Sir!" Bram yelled. "I think I found something."

Lt. Ligsay walked up and saw the black magazine lying on the ground. He called it in, and the platoon breathed a sigh of relief. The members of the kill team knew it was a drop magazine, but it turned the shooting into a legitimate kill.

"The incident was staged to look like he may have had a weapon," Stoner told investigators. "Basically, what we did was a desperate search to justify killing this guy. But in reality he was just some old, deaf, retarded guy. We basically executed this man."

Under the rules of engagement, however, the U.S. military still considers the man responsible for his own death. Because he ignored the platoon's warnings and moved in their direction, no one has been charged in his killing – even though the Army now knows he was gunned down by soldiers intent on shooting unarmed civilians for sport.

Within a month, according to the Army, Gibbs executed another civilian and planted a weapon on the body. It was during Operation Kodak Moment, a routine mission to photograph and compile a database of the male residents of a village called Kari Kheyl. On February 22nd, the day of the mission, Gibbs hid the AK-47 he had stolen from the Afghan National Police in a black assault pack. As the platoon made its way through the village, he went to the hut of Marach Agha, a man he suspected of belonging to the Taliban, and ordered him outside.

First Gibbs fired the AK-47 into a nearby wall and dropped the weapon at Agha's feet. Then he shot the man at close range with his M4 rifle. Morlock and Wagnon followed up with a few rounds of their own. With the scene staged to his satisfaction, Gibbs called in a report.

Staff Sgt. Sprague was one of the first to respond. Gibbs claimed that he had turned a corner and spotted the man, who had fired at him with the AK-47, only to have the rifle jam. But when Sprague picked up the Kalashnikov, it seemed to be in perfect operating condition. A short time later, as he walked down a dusty alley in the village, Sprague himself came under attack from small-arms fire. He responded instinctively by squeezing the trigger on the AK-47 – and the gun fired "with no problems at all."

Sprague reported the discrepancy to Lt. Ligsay. When the body was identified, relatives also reported that Agha was a deeply religious man who would never have taken up arms. He "did not know how to use an AK-47," they told Ligsay. Once again, however, no action was taken, nor was Gibbs disciplined.

With their commanding officers repeatedly failing to investigate, the kill team was starting to feel invulnerable. To encourage soldiers in other units to target unarmed civilians, Gibbs had given one of the "off the books" grenades he had scrounged to a friend from another battalion, Staff Sgt. Robert Stevens. "It showed up in a box on my desk," recalled Stevens, a senior medic. "When I opened the box, I saw a grenade canister, which had a grenade in it and a dirty green sock." Figuring the sock was some kind of joke, Stevens threw it away. Later, when he saw Gibbs, he mentioned getting the grenade.

"Did you get the other thing?" Gibbs asked.

"What, the sock?" Stevens said.

"No, what was in the sock," Gibbs replied.

Inside the sock, Gibbs had placed a severed human finger.

Stevens got the message. On March 10th, as his convoy was driving down Highway 1, the central road connecting Kandahar to the north, Stevens stuck his head out of his Stryker's open hatch and tossed the grenade. It detonated a few seconds later than he had anticipated, and when it blew, it thudded into the vehicle. Stevens immediately began firing at a nearby compound of huts, yelling at another platoon member to do the same. "Get the f**k up, Morgan!" he screamed. "Let's go, shoot!"

No casualties were reported from the incident, but it earned Stevens an Army Commendation Medal and a Combat Medical Badge. Stevens later admitted that he had concocted the ambush not only because he wanted to get rid of the illegal grenade but because he "wanted to hook up the guys in the company" with their Combat Infantryman Badges, 14 of which were awarded in the aftermath of the shooting. All of the awards were revoked when the Army learned the attack had been faked.

The assault staged by Stevens suggested a new way to target Afghan civilians. In addition to approaching targets on foot, Gibbs decided to use his Stryker as a shooting platform, affording greater mobility with the protection of armor. In a perverse twist, the vehicle that had proved ineffective at combating the Taliban was about to be turned on the very people it was supposed to defend.

On March 18th, during a maintenance run to Kandahar Airfield, the unit drove past a populated area of the city. According to one soldier, Gibbs opened the hatch of the moving Stryker and tossed out a grenade. As it exploded with a loud bang, shrapnel hit the Stryker. "RPG!" Gibbs shouted. "RPG!" Sgt. Darren Jones, who had discussed faking attacks with Gibbs, opened fire indiscriminately on the local residents, who frantically scrambled to avoid the incoming rounds. Gibbs raised his M4 and laid down fire as well.

There is no way to know how many, if any, casualties resulted from the fusillade. Lt. Ligsay, who was in the same Stryker with Gibbs and Jones, maintains that he mistakenly believed the attack to be genuine and ordered the convoy to keep moving. The platoon did not return to the area to conduct a battle damage assessment, and no charges were ever filed in the incident.

A few weeks later, sometime in late March or early April, members of 3rd Platoon fired on unarmed civilians twice on the same day, indicating a growing sense of their own invincibility. Five soldiers were part of a patrol in a grape field in the Zhari District when they spotted three unarmed men. According to Stevens, Gibbs ordered the soldiers to open fire, even though the men were standing erect and posed no threat. All five soldiers fired their weapons at the men, but they managed to escape unscathed. Gibbs was not pleased. "He mentioned that we needed to work on our accuracy," Stevens recalled, "because it did not appear that anyone was hurt."

That same evening, while manning a guard tower overlooking a field in the Zhari District, soldiers from 3rd Platoon were directly told not to shoot at an elderly farmer who had been granted permission to work his land nearby. Despite the warning, two soldiers reportedly shot at the farmer as if he were an armed combatant. They once again failed to hit their target, but the officer in charge was furious. "This farmer has never been a problem," he later told investigators. "He's 60 to 70 years old."

One morning that spring, Gibbs approached Morlock flashing what looked like a small metal pineapple. "Hey, man, I've got this Russian grenade," he said. Gibbs added that the weapon would be the perfect tool to fake another attack, since the Taliban were known to carry Russian explosives. Morlock liked the idea. The night before, talking with a bunch of soldiers outside their bunk rooms, he had announced that he was looking to kill another haji, a pejorative term that U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan use for Muslims. One soldier who took part in the conversation dismissed it as idle talk. "I didn't really think anything of it," he told investigators, "because soldiers say stuff like that all the time."

The morning of May 2nd, the platoon was on a routine patrol in a village called Qualaday, a few miles from base. Following standard procedure, the unit's leaders entered a house to talk with a man who had previously been arrested for having an IED. That inadvertently left the rest of the platoon free to roam the village looking for targets, without having to worry about an officer's supervision.

Outside the house, Morlock was overheard instructing Winfield in how a grenade explodes, cautioning him to remain on the ground during the blast. Then the two soldiers moved off with Gibbs. Nearby, in a compound filled with children, they picked out a man with a white beard and escorted him outside. "He seemed friendly," Winfield recalled. "He didn't seem to have any sort of animosity toward us."

Gibbs turned to his men. "You guys want to wax this guy or what?" he asked. Morlock and Winfield agreed that the man seemed perfect.

Gibbs walked the Afghan to a nearby ditch and forced him to his knees, ordering him to stay that way. Then he positioned Morlock and Winfield in a prone position behind a small berm no more than 10 feet away. "To be honest," Morlock later told investigators, "me and Winfield thought we were going to frag ourselves, 'cause we were so f**king close."

With everyone in position, Gibbs took cover behind a low wall and chucked a grenade toward the Afghan. "All right, dude, wax this guy!" he shouted. "Kill this guy, kill this guy!"

As the grenade went off, Morlock and Winfield opened fire. Morlock got off several rounds with his M4. Winfield, who was armed with the more powerful SAW machine gun, squeezed off a burst that lasted for three to five seconds.

Gibbs shouted for Morlock to proceed with the next stage of the plan. "Get up there and plant that f**king grenade!"

The man lay where he had fallen. One of his feet had been blown off by the blast; his other leg was missing below the knee. Morlock ran up and dropped the Russian pineapple grenade near the dead man's hand. Gibbs walked up to the body, stood directly over it, and fired twice into the man's head, shattering the jaw.

Later, when the scene had calmed down – after soldiers had pushed away the dead man's wife and children, who were screaming, hysterical with grief, and Morlock had spun the story to the higher-ups – Gibbs took out a pair of medical shears and cut off the corpse's left pinky finger, which he kept for himself. Then, wearing a surgical glove, he reached into the dead man's mouth, pulled out a tooth and handed it to Winfield.

Winfield held the tooth for a while. Then he tossed it aside, leaving it behind on the ground at Qualaday.

This time, though, the villagers refused to be placated. The dead man, it turned out, was a peaceful cleric named Mullah Allah Dad. Two days later, the murder provoked an uproar at a districtwide council attended by Capt. Quiggle, the unit's commanding officer. The district leader launched into a blistering attack of the platoon. "He pretty much told us that we planted the grenade in order to shoot the guy," recalled 1st Lt. Stefan Moye, who escorted Quiggle to the meeting.

But the next day, instead of launching an inquiry into the platoon's behavior, Quiggle dispatched Moye to the scene of the shooting to do damage control. With Gibbs hovering nearby, the lieutenant found two elderly villagers who claimed to have seen Mullah Allah Dad with a grenade. Relieved, Moye urged them to spread the word. "This is the type of stuff that the Taliban likes to use against us and try to recruit people to fight against us," he said.

His mission accomplished, Moye left the village feeling that the platoon could return to its usual rhythms. "After that," he said, "everything was normal."

Things might have remained "normal," and the killings might have continued, if it hadn't been for what began as a trivial spat between bunkmates. Around midnight, the same evening that Moye returned from pacifying village elders, Pfc. Stoner walked into the company's tactical operations center to register a complaint. Stoner, who had helped plant the AK-47 magazine on the civilian murdered by the highway, said he was sick and tired of other soldiers in the unit using his room as "a smoke shack for hash." Worried that the lingering odor would get him busted, he had asked them to find another place to get stoned. They had refused, pausing only to remove the battery from the room's smoke detector.

"They baked the room many times until it stank constantly," Stoner said. "I was worried for my own job." Emphasizing that he wasn't a snitch, Stoner told the sergeant on duty that he didn't want to get his fellow soldiers in trouble. Then, growing emotional, he mentioned that "he and a bunch of other guys had executed a local national out on Highway 1." The sergeant didn't take the story seriously enough to report it up the chain of command. "I thought he was just upset and needed to talk to someone about the incident," he later recalled. Instead of alerting his superiors about the murder allegation, the sergeant simply assured Stoner that the matter of hash smoking in his room would be handled quietly, and that his identity would be kept confidential.

But discretion wasn't exactly the unit's strong suit. By the next day, everyone knew that Stoner had ratted them out. "Everyone began to panic," Quintal recalls. Gibbs, who didn't care for hashish, gathered members of the kill team in his room. "We need to address the situation with Stoner," he reportedly said. "Snitches get stitches."

On May 6th, Gibbs and six other soldiers descended on Stoner's room, locking the door behind them, and attacked Stoner while he was sitting on his bed. Grabbing him by the throat, they dragged him to the floor and piled on, striking him hard but taking care to avoid blows to the face that might leave visible bruises. "I've been in the Army four years," Morlock said as he pummeled Stoner in the stomach. "How could you do this to me?" Before leaving, they struck Stoner in the crotch and spit in his face.

A few hours later, Gibbs and Morlock returned to Stoner's room. As Stoner sat on his bed, still dazed from the assault, Morlock explained that the beating would not happen again, so long as Stoner kept his mouth shut "from f**king now on." If Stoner were disloyal again, Gibbs warned, he would be killed the next time he went out on patrol. "It's too easy," he added, explaining that he could hide Stoner's body in a Hesco barrier, one of the temporary structures used to fortify U.S. positions.

Then Gibbs reached into his pocket and took out a bit of cloth. Unfolding it, he tossed two severed fingers on the floor, with bits of skin still hanging off the bone. If Stoner didn't want to end up like "that guy," Morlock said, he better "shut the hell up." After all, he added, he "already had enough practice" at killing people.

Stoner had no doubt that Morlock would follow through on the threat. "Basically, I do believe that Morlock would kill me if he had the chance," he said later.

But the beating proved to be the kill team's undoing. When a physician's assistant examined Stoner the next day, she saw the angry red welts covering his body. She also saw the large tattoo across Stoner's back. In gothic type, beneath a grinning red skull flanked by two grim reapers, it read:

what if im not the hero

what if im the bad guy


Stoner was sent to talk to Army investigators. In the course of recounting the assault, he described how Gibbs had thrown the severed fingers on the floor. The investigators pressed him about how Gibbs came by the fingers. Stoner told them it was because the platoon had killed a lot of innocent people.

At that point, the investigators asked Stoner to start from the beginning. When had the platoon killed innocent people? Bit by bit, Stoner laid out the whole history, naming names and places and times.

As other members of the platoon were called in and interviewed, many confirmed Stoner's account and described the shootings for investigators. Morlock, who proved particularly gregarious, agreed to speak on videotape. Relaxed and unconcerned in front of the camera, he nonchalantly described the kills in detail.

Morlock's confession kicked off an intense search for evidence. When the Army's investigators were dispatched to FOB Ramrod, they went straight to the top of a Hesco barrier near Gibbs' housing unit. Right where Morlock said it would be, they found the bottom of a plastic water bottle containing two pieces of cloth. Inside each piece of cloth was a severed human finger. But then a strange thing happened. When investigators compared prints of the two fingers to those in the company's database, the prints didn't match up. Either the records were screwed up, which was quite possible, or there were more dead guys out there who were unaccounted for.

Last week, on March 23rd, Morlock was sentenced to 24 years in prison after agreeing to testify against Gibbs. "The Army wants Gibbs," says one defense lawyer. "They want to throw him in jail and move on." Gibbs insists that all three killings he took part in were "legitimate combat engagements." Three other low-level soldiers facing murder charges – Winfield, Holmes and Wagnon – also maintain their innocence. As for the other men in Bravo Company, five have already been convicted of lesser crimes, including drug use, stabbing a corpse and beating up Stoner, and two more face related charges. In December, Staff Sgt. Stevens was sentenced to nine months in prison after agreeing to testify against Gibbs. He was stripped to the lowest service rank – private E-1 – but over the protests of military prosecutors, he was allowed to remain in the Army.

So far, though, no officers or senior officials have been charged in either the murders or the cover-up. Last October, the Army quietly launched a separate investigation, guided by Brig. Gen. Stephen Twitty, into the critical question of officer accountability. But the findings of that inquiry, which was concluded last month, have been kept secret – and the Army refuses to say whether it has disciplined or demoted any of the commanders responsible for 3rd Platoon. Even if the commanding officers were not co-conspirators or accomplices in the crimes, they repeatedly ignored clear warning signs and allowed a lethally racist attitude to pervade their unit. Indeed, the resentment of Afghans was so commonplace among soldiers in the platoon that when Morlock found himself being questioned by Army investigators, he expressed no pity or remorse about the murders.

Toward the end of Morlock's interview, the conversation turned to the mindset that had allowed the killings to occur. "None of us in the platoon – the platoon leader, the platoon sergeant – no one gives a f**k about these people," Morlock said.

Then he leaned back in his chair and yawned, summing up the way his superiors viewed the people of Afghanistan. "Some shit goes down," he said, "you're gonna get a pat on the back from your platoon sergeant: Good job. f**k 'em."
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Post by: larsonstdoc on March 30, 2011, 07:02:01 am



  The only good thing about this story is that it got out in the Rolling Stone where youth can see what is really going on in the Middle East--the craziness and stupidity of some of our soldiers.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: IridiumKEPfactor on March 30, 2011, 07:42:21 am

  I hate to say it but here it goes--it starts with the video games, BY DESIGN---the desensitization of the young people.  Of course you all know that.

  This is as sick as it gets.  The US soldiers are the new Scythians. 


I agree but remember these things happend in Vietnam and video games were not around then. Video games I think are making a little easier to pull the trigger. Instinctive firing. The otrocities that these people are commiting are demonic/satanic in nature. These guys were out of ther Fkn mind and had learned to embrace the evil and bathe in it.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: larsonstdoc on March 30, 2011, 07:46:52 am

I agree but remember these things happend in Vietnam and video games were not around then. Video games I think are making a little easier to pull the trigger. Instinctive firing. The otrocities that these people are commiting are demonic/satanic in nature. These guys were out of ther Fkn mind and had learned to embrace the evil and bathe in it.

  Yes iridium---whether in Vietnam or Afghanistan we need to add one thing---THE DRUGS.
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Post by: agentbluescreen on March 30, 2011, 08:29:52 am

I agree but remember these things happend in Vietnam and video games were not around then. Video games I think are making a little easier to pull the trigger. Instinctive firing. The otrocities that these people are commiting are demonic/satanic in nature. These guys were out of ther Fkn mind and had learned to embrace the evil and bathe in it.

It's a matter of sinking or swimming however. These asshole$ and the a$$holes who run the whole show haven't a stinking clue what or who they are fighting nor even why they are enslaved in a position to have to do so. All they know for certain is that they are prisoners there and it's them or us.

They were duped into mass murdering by lies and poverty. Calling them the "guilty" ones is a total cop out, certainly a lot of this goes beyond the realm of decency, but the whole phony war against phony enemies is absolutely and unequivocally immoral and a hellish colossal buffet of deceptions, ignorance, pillage and hate crimes to begin with.
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Post by: agentbluescreen on March 30, 2011, 08:45:35 am
 Yes iridium---whether in Vietnam or Afghanistan we need to add one thing---THE DRUGS.

The ludicrous notion that some band of cave dwelling camel riders in the desert outback are or ever were any sort of a "threat to America" would be a rib-smacking comedy were it not to have been sold to a totally ignorant and uncivilized, decadent generation of bible-thumping, TV-trained fluoride-heads by a criminal gang of corporate religious fascists.
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Post by: chris jones on March 30, 2011, 09:57:46 pm
The ludicrous notion that some band of cave dwelling camel riders in the desert outback are or ever were decadent generation of bible-thumping, TV-trained fluoride-heads by a criminal gang of corporate religious fascists.
Jo..Yes, the focus has been taken away from the true evil. Its boils down to the old adage, follow the money. Who feeds from the blood of the *innocents, who sends Americas sons to their deaths, dismemberent and insanity.I'm not making excuses for these freaks on a kill trip, I'm directing this to the instigators, the PARASITIC-FEEDERS, money, power and controll no matter what the peons looses life, limb or mind. The do not care folks. Alex is right, prison planet, yes to imprison the minds of the masses.
           I told myself for some years, the onething good that came out of vietnam was the fact the citizens learned, that we would not be fooled again. I needed that, but in truth I was kidding myself.
  3 million killed in Nam,1 million in Iraq, what honor! What God and country..what lesson learned.
I could rant, but to sum up, if there is a ntional awareness and conscience,  the greater precentage arei on holiday.

         
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Post by: bigron on March 31, 2011, 07:23:37 am
Kill Teams in Afghanistan: The Truth

These disgusting photos of murdered Afghans reveal the aggression and racism underpinning the occupation of my country

By Malalai Joya

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27792.htm

March 30, 2011 "The Guardian" ---  The disgusting and heartbreaking photos published last week in the German media, and more recently in Rolling Stone magazine, are finally bringing the grisly truth about the war in Afghanistan to a wider public. All the PR about this war being about democracy and human rights melts into thin air with the pictures of US soldiers posing with the dead and mutilated bodies of innocent Afghan civilians.

I must report that Afghans do not believe this to be a story of a few rogue soldiers. We believe that the brutal actions of these "kill teams" reveal the aggression and racism which is part and parcel of the entire military occupation. While these photos are new, the murder of innocents is not. Such crimes have sparked many protests in Afghanistan and have sharply raised anti-American sentiment among ordinary Afghans.

I am not surprised that the mainstream media in the US has been reluctant to publish these images of the soldiers who made sport out of murdering Afghans. General Petraeus, now in charge of the American-led occupation, is said to place great importance on the "information war" for public opinion – and there is a concerted effort to keep the reality of Afghanistan out of sight in the US.

Last week my initial application for a US entry visa was turned down, and so my book tour was delayed while supporters demanded my right to enter the country. The American government was pressed to relent and allow my visit to go ahead. Ultimately it too will be unable to block out the truth about the war in Afghanistan.

The "kill team" images will come as a shock to many outside Afghanistan but not to us. We have seen countless incidents of American and Nato forces killing innocent people like birds. For instance, they recently killed nine children in Kunar Province who were collecting firewood. In February this year they killed 65 innocent villagers, most of them women and children. In this case, as in many others, Nato claimed that they had only killed insurgents, even though local authorities acknowledged that the victims were civilians. To prevent the facts coming out they even arrested two journalists from al-Jazeera who attempted to visit and report from the site of the massacre.

Successive US officials have said that they will safeguard civilians and that they will be more careful, but in fact they are only more careful in their efforts to cover up their crimes and suppress reporting of them. The US and Nato, along with the office of the UN's assistance mission in Afghanistan, usually give statistics about civilian deaths that underestimate the numbers. The reality is that President Obama's so-called surge has only led to a surge of violence from all sides, and civilian deaths have increased.

The occupying armies have tried to buy off the families of their victims, offering $2,000 for each one killed. Afghans' lives are cheap for the US and Nato, but no matter how much they offer, we don't want their blood money.

Once you know all this, and once you have seen the "kill team" photos, you will understand more clearly why Afghans have turned against this occupation. The Karzai regime is more hated than ever: it only rules through intimidation, corruption, and with the help of the occupying armies. Afghans deserve much better than this.

However, this does not mean more Afghans are supporting the reactionary so-called resistance of the Taliban. Instead we are seeing the growth, under very difficult conditions, of another resistance led by students, women and the ordinary poor people of Afghanistan. They are taking to the streets to protest against the massacre of civilians and to demand an end to the war. Demonstrations like this were recently held in Kabul, Marzar-e-Sharif, Jalalabad and Farah.

This resistance is inspired by the movements in other countries like Egypt and Tunisia – we want to see "people power" in Afghanistan as well. And we need the support and solidarity of people in the Nato countries.

MORE

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27792.htm




Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Jackson Holly on March 31, 2011, 07:28:01 am

What about the KILL TEAMS in the LIBYAN sky?

NO FLY ZONE = NO PLANES EXCEPT THE ONES DROPPING BOMBS!

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Post by: larsonstdoc on March 31, 2011, 08:07:15 am
Kill Teams in Afghanistan: The Truth

These disgusting photos of murdered Afghans reveal the aggression and racism underpinning the occupation of my country

By Malalai Joya

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27792.htm


I am not surprised that the mainstream media in the US has been reluctant to publish these images of the soldiers who made sport out of murdering Afghans. General Petraeus, now in charge of the American-led occupation, is said to place great importance on the "information war" for public opinion – and there is a concerted effort to keep the reality of Afghanistan out of sight in the US.


The "kill team" images will come as a shock to many outside Afghanistan but not to us. We have seen countless incidents of American and Nato forces killing innocent people like birds. For instance, they recently killed nine children in Kunar Province who were collecting firewood. In February this year they killed 65 innocent villagers, most of them women and children. In this case, as in many others, Nato claimed that they had only killed insurgents, even though local authorities acknowledged that the victims were civilians. To prevent the facts coming out they even arrested two journalists from al-Jazeera who attempted to visit and report from the site of the massacre.



http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27792.htm






  As a veteran medical officer, this makes my blood boil.  THE WORST CRIMES IN THE WORLD ARE THOSE AGAINST CHILDREN.  THE 2ND WORST CRIMES IN THE WORLD ARE THOSE AGAINST WOMEN.  NO MATTER WHO'S CHILDREN OR WHO'S WOMEN.  WE (ALL OF US ON THIS PLANET) HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE!!!!
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Post by: chris jones on March 31, 2011, 09:08:06 am
As a veteran medical officer, this makes my blood boil.  THE WORST CRIMES IN THE WORLD ARE THOSE AGAINST CHILDREN.  THE 2ND WORST CRIMES IN THE WORLD ARE THOSE AGAINST WOMEN.  NO MATTER WHO'S CHILDREN OR WHO'S WOMEN.  WE (ALL OF US ON THIS PLANET) HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE!!!!
Larson............BINGO, YES, YES,YES.........
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Post by: larsonstdoc on March 31, 2011, 09:18:06 am

 Chris, what the hell is going on with this military?  Even in Montana there is a limit to the number of elk you can kill or the the number of fish you can take!!   Maybe the DOD needs to set the limits of the # of women and children they can kill.  What the hell?  What the hell?  THIS KIND OF STUFF SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE!!!!
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Post by: Satyagraha on March 31, 2011, 09:38:38 am

Remember - guys sitting behind desks back in the Pentagon, at RAND corp., CSIS and the rest of the MIC goons are promoting the attitude that is filtered down to the troops.

In every situation where genocide occurs; the troops are first taught to look at the 'enemy' as less than human. As 'savages', 'rats' , 'bugs', etc. The idea that Libya is a "turd sandwich" means that the inhabitants of the 'turd' must therefore be less than human; vermin.


National Security Aid to Advisor considers Libya "Turd Sandwich"
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=204768.msg1223775#msg1223775

As you can see, the "front-line" extends all the way back to Washington DC.

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Post by: larsonstdoc on March 31, 2011, 09:42:00 am
Remember - guys sitting behind desks back in the Pentagon, at RAND corp., CSIS and the rest of the MIC goons are promoting the attitude that is filtered down to the troops.



  HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING?  Have you ever been in the military?  Some of you people play this cyber crap.  I have been there.  NEVER, EVER WERE WE TOLD IT WAS OK TO KILL INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
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Post by: nirosive on March 31, 2011, 11:26:49 am
Description on pic 10. 

Even after he joined the Army, Morlock continued to get into trouble. In 2009, a month before he deployed to Afghanistan, he was charged with disorderly conduct after burning his wife with a cigarette. After he arrived in Afghanistan, he did any drug he could get his hands on: opium, hash, Ambien, amitriptyline, flexeril, phenergan, codeine, trazodone.
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Post by: larsonstdoc on March 31, 2011, 11:48:14 am
Description on pic 10. 

Even after he joined the Army, Morlock continued to get into trouble. In 2009, a month before he deployed to Afghanistan, he was charged with disorderly conduct after burning his wife with a cigarette. After he arrived in Afghanistan, he did any drug he could get his hands on: opium, hash, Ambien, amitriptyline, flexeril, phenergan, codeine, trazodone.

  Another crime against a woman----his own wife.   What the hell?  Back when I was in the US Army they would have court martialed him and put him in Ft. Leavenworth for 10 or 20 years. Had that of happened, it would of prevented him from killing all those Afghans.  But today the services are desperate---they will take anybody.
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Post by: Geolibertarian on March 31, 2011, 11:54:19 am
You think those soldiers would hesitate to fire on American citizens if ordered to?

Of course not. And what disgusts me even more than that is the fact that millions of flag-waving warmongers in this country have become so emotionally wedded to the ideological fantasy that anything the "troops" do is, by definition, self-justifying -- and that the "troops" can therefore do no wrong as long as they're wrapped in the American flag -- that they'll literally thank them as they destroy (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=162212.msg1124049#msg1124049) the very freedoms and liberties of which that flag is a mere symbol (http://ronpaulquotes.com/Texas_Straight_Talk/tst062899.html).

I realize the military is full of good people, and that low-ranking troops are often unfairly scapegoated for the crimes orchestrated by those atop the chain of command.

Nevertheless, if "supporting" the troops means mindlessly supporting any policy or agenda -- no matter how treasonous -- they're called upon to enforce, then I, for one, am a non-supporter!
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on March 31, 2011, 12:33:17 pm
 HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING?  Have you ever been in the military?  Some of you people play this cyber crap.  I have been there.  NEVER, EVER WERE WE TOLD IT WAS OK TO KILL INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

You are awake to 911.
You believe that our own government conspired to bring down the towers to facilitate the 'endless' war on terror, and destroy our liberties, grab oil from Iraq, opium and minerals from Afghanistan, and kill more than 1.5 million people in the process, using their 'ends justify the means' rationale. And today we are bombing Libya, killing more innocents.

Yet you refuse to believe that the military brass and their colleagues in the Military Industrial Complex have  performed mind control experiments on soldiers for years. You have to ignore the documented history of their experiments, ignore the fact that their plans to 'control' soldiers in battle - make them kill on command, without conscience, without remorse, and without 'memory' of the event is detailed in their documents describing the Revolution in Military Affairs.

I am not saying that ALL soldiers engage in this behavior, perhaps you misunderstand me.
I am not saying that there are not psychopaths who use their positions as soldiers to do these deeds.

What I am saying is that you have to consider that these guys may be part of the experiments (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=166745.msg991047#msg991047) the MIC is conducting to perfect their 'future force soldiers'. And, we know from history, that the deaths of innocents are not impediments to their objectives: they are 'expendable'.

How do I KNOW this?

I have read the documents describing the Revolution in Military Affairs.
They have planned for years to 'control' soldiers via drugs, augmented reality software and chip implants. This is not science fiction, Larsonstdoc, this is written in documents published by the MIC think tanks.

You don't have to be in the military to read their plans. Their documents are publicly available from think tank websites, and from the military's own websites. And many of these documents have been posted to this forum. Search in Prison Planet Forum for "RMA", "Future Soldier Initiative (http://nsrdec.natick.army.mil/FSI/docs/FSI_InfoPaper_10Dec09.pdf)", "augmented reality", "sense and respond"; you'll find them.

Don't be angry with me for pointing to the truth of what the military has planned for decades.
And don't turn away from evidence of their barbaric plans and schemes that we see being played out using our own soldiers as lab rats. Maybe some of these guys are psychopathic murderers. Maybe some are part of a control group used to test their planned sense and respond systems. You can rail on about how horrifying this is, you can get pissed off at the military, at the soldiers, at me.

But you can't ignore the "cyber crap" -by which I assume you mean "cybernetics".  Well, Brzezinski spoke about this "cyber crap" in 1970 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=191076.msg1133810#msg1133810) - he was speaking about cybernetics, and thought that East Germany was the perfect cybernetic system.  

The Revolution in Military Affairs is part of Cybernetics. Cybernetics (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=164470.msg977443#msg977443) is the control of all information flow between humans, between systems. It is the methodology which the globalists have created to control all of us, all of our infrastructure, our social systems, medical systems, food, water, transportation - this is how they are, right now, enslaving us bit by bit. That 'cyber crap' is real.

Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: charrington on March 31, 2011, 12:59:46 pm
 HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING?  Have you ever been in the military?  Some of you people play this cyber crap.  I have been there.  NEVER, EVER WERE WE TOLD IT WAS OK TO KILL INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwwMF6biCJU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNfrCklURkA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvdGHlHCblk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUvABcw6gIY


Compartmentalization - Others were told to do just that. There was a book I read years ago, a really short book called the 1 minute manager (http://www.amazon.com/Minute-Manager-Ph-D-Kenneth-Blanchard/dp/0425098478). It pointed out something I often think about and without getting into a lengthy discussion about the books merits it asserted that if Management at the top had kleptomaniacs then managers just under them would see this and also behave in the same manner. Eventually this behavior would sink down to the average employee and they too would steal. Not a good work environment.

I think you can see that taking place in the world today - the populace reflects to some degree what the leaders setting the standards are doing. Same goes in the military, even more so. There, in the military you are not allowed to question, you just do or there is a heavy price to be paid.

I think you see this happening more and more as more of these atrocities become exposed.
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Post by: chris jones on March 31, 2011, 02:04:08 pm
Chris, what the hell is going on with this military?   What the hell?  What the hell?  THIS KIND OF STUFF SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE!!!!
Larson, brother do I understand how you feel. The military, is an extension of the elites-the regime-the pols. You have been in the boots, I'm sure you have met some big dogs who beleive themsleves to be royalty in uniform, power corrupts . They own the enlisted man, especially so for this is a volunteer service. Just as the elites revel in the power so do many of the big brass. Though Its true that a fraction of the generals and high rankers have reliquish command and fervently rebeled against the regime.Yes Larson, this kind of stuff should not be going on anywhere, true..But Its been going on for many decades, not that I know of has there been a serious peacetime, an appearence of, a lull in the storm perhaps.
 L. 3 million humans were killed in Nam, hundred of thousands of innocents, 60,000 american sons, does this teach our society anything at all. If the regime ordered them out of the wars what would happen?
 JFK was in the process of stopping Vietnam, look what happened. PS-national concience???? where!

Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: larsonstdoc on March 31, 2011, 03:01:58 pm
Larson, brother do I understand how you feel. The military, is an extension of the elites-the regime-the pols. You have been in the boots, I'm sure you have met some big dogs who beleive themsleves to be royalty in uniform, power corrupts . They own the enlisted man, especially so for this is a volunteer service. Just as the elites revel in the power so do many of the big brass. Though Its true that a fraction of the generals and high rankers have reliquish command and fervently rebeled against the regime.Yes Larson, this kind of stuff should not be going on anywhere, true..But Its been going on for many decades, not that I know of has there been a serious peacetime, an appearence of, a lull in the storm perhaps.
 L. 3 million humans were killed in Nam, hundred of thousands of innocents, 60,000 american sons, does this teach our society anything at all. If the regime ordered them out of the wars what would happen?
 JFK was in the process of stopping Vietnam, look what happened. PS-national concience???? where!




  Thanks Chris.  If this kind of crap would have happened in our medical battalion the guy who gave the order would have been plugged.  Whether it be the CO, XO, CMO,or First Seargent---there was less insanity back then.
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Post by: TheTimeToActIsNow on March 31, 2011, 03:19:28 pm
This makes me cry.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: chris jones on March 31, 2011, 07:46:25 pm
This makes me cry.
Hi Time to act.. Yup, it makes all of us cry, then the tears turn to anger.
  Hey welcome to the site.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: bigron on April 02, 2011, 09:43:33 am
Murder in Afghanistan


SPIEGEL TV's 'Kill Team' Documentary




SPIEGEL ONLINE

(http://uruknet.com/pic.php?f=3us_killers_pose_with_their_victim.jpg)


SPIEGEL ONLINE , April 1, 2011

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,754554,00.html

Spiegel TV: "Kill Team" Documentary 1/2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpBqlpX7vcc&feature=player_embedded

Spiegel TV: "Kill Team" Documentary 1/2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcCmayJf_Yc&feature=player_embedded

For months, the US Army kept the images compiled by the so-called "kill team" under lock and key out of fear it could result in a scandal even greater than Abu Ghraib. SPIEGEL TV spent weeks researching the story behind the men of 5th Stryker Brigade and how things could go so terribly wrong. Warning: The documentary contains extremely graphic content.



When Justin Stoner returned to Forward Operating Base Ramrod, hoping to settle into his room and get some rest, he could recognize the smell right away: hashish. Time and time again, he had asked his roommate in this remote outpost in Afghanistan not to do drugs, at least not in their room.

But this time Stoner had had enough. As he filed the complaint with his superior, he knew it would result in serious trouble. When, almost as an aside, he mentioned that his pot-smoking comrades would take revenge, and that they were capable and guilty of much more than smoking hashish, he set in motion an investigation that would lead to what would become the US Army's next Abu Ghraib.

Weeks later, the Army arrested 12 men, some of whom would speak openly to investigators about their so-called " kill team," an inner circle of soldiers belonging to the 5th Stryker Brigade out of Joint Base Lewis-McChord in the state of Washington. Their alleged leader, Staff Sergeant Calvin Gibbs, is supposed to have instigated the murder of innocent civilians and to have collected fingers he cut off of the hands of dead Afghans as trophies.

As horrifying as it is, the Army was almost more worried about something else: The men of FOB Ramrod had been documenting their exploits and had taken thousands of pictures, including many of dead Afghans, as well as videos of legitimate but highly graphic engagements. Most troubling was the fact that they had posed with the dead, smiling and holding up their heads like hunters proud of their "kill."

For months, the US Army has kept these troubling documents under lock and key. SPIEGEL TV's Karin Assmann spent weeks alongside her colleagues from SPIEGEL magazine researching the story behind the men of the 5th Stryker Brigade, exploring why they had gone so horribly off course. In her film, Assmann documents the young soldiers' transformation. She speaks with family members and tells the mens' stories with the help of their video-taped interrogations and the use of hundreds of pages of internal files. Assmann reconstructs two of the three alleged murders using the very photos that the US Army has tried to suppress.

You can now view Assmann's documentary, in its entirety, on SPIEGEL ONLINE International. Warning: The video contains extremely graphic content.


http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,754554,00.html
 
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on April 02, 2011, 10:42:37 am
From the Speigel video: This guy, Gibbs, tried to avoid having his picture taken by the reporter who travelled with the 'kill team'. He sat apart from the rest but got captured in this video.

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/Pilikia_photos/Gibbs.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpBqlpX7vcc&feature=player_embedded)

Who is Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs?

Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs (http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/11/06/1413641/hearing-tuesday-for-squad-leader.html#ixzz1INsWZYSm)

Age: 25.
Hometown: Billings, Mont.
Military background: Joined Army in 2002 and had early assignments at Hawaii and Fort Drum, N.Y.
Background at Joint Base Lewis-McChord: Stationed here in January 2008.

Deployments: Iraq, January 2004 to January 2005;
Afghanistan, January 2006 to May 2007;
(No mention of his location in 2008)
Afghanistan, July 2009 to June 2010.

"No one seemed more pleased by the kill than Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs, the platoon's popular and hard-charging squad leader. "It was like another day at the office for him," one soldier recalls. Gibbs started "messing around with the kid," moving his arms and mouth and "acting like the kid was talking." Then, using a pair of razor-sharp medic's shears, he reportedly sliced off the dead boy's pinky finger and gave it to Holmes, as a trophy for killing his first Afghan." (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42304341/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/?GT1=43001)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Gibbs

Hearing Tuesday for squad leader accused in Afghan killings
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/11/06/1413641/hearing-tuesday-for-squad-leader.html#ixzz1INsAriB2
Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs’ big talk about killing Afghan civilians and getting away with it made him stand out when he joined a new platoon at an Army base in southern Afghanistan a year ago, according to written statements from his comrades.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: squarepusher on April 02, 2011, 09:34:45 pm
 HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING?  Have you ever been in the military?  Some of you people play this cyber crap.  I have been there.  NEVER, EVER WERE WE TOLD IT WAS OK TO KILL INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

You and your military buddies are just bodies - lackeys which follow the marching orders of a Max Boot - or any other CFR high military legget. Sure, they (the military) pretend to 'uphold the rule of law' - just like any common thug pretends to govern himself by a moral code. Hell, the Samurai followed the Bushido code - the Mafia follow their own moral code - any organization (be it criminal or so-called 'legal') has its own code of conduct. That doesn't mean they necessarily have to believe in that bullshit though - or rather, let's just say that they are able and willing to look the other way when it comes to the 'spoils of war'.

You know what the spoils of war is buddy? Rape, killing, murder, plundering, making people your slaves - those are the spoils of war. It's as old as the way to Rome. They did it back in those days too. Your GIs in Afghanistan/Iraq are doing it too.

This is commonly understood - any historian or anthropologist who isn't a flat-out revisionist or wants to tell the children little feel-good stories will tell you this is how history has shaped the world - the military of other nations go in, they conquer and subjugate other nations, make them their own, rape their women, kill some of their civilians for sport, and that's how it goes on. That is what is understood by the 'spoils of war'.

Foreign dominant military brutes like the ones depicted above raping women in foreign countries is how 'races' came to be in the first place - that is firmly established by the scientist who coined the Triple Helix, Richard C. Lewinton. He can tell you all about it in his talks at prestigious universities. Note - this is one of the most prestigious evolutionary biologists out there, yet even he won't discount 'RACE'. Races came about by foreign militaries conquering other nations and raping their women - that's what he will tell the educated college types - while the gutter types can talk about 'racism' and metaphysical conceptions of 'evolutionary processes' magically leading to people with brown skin, yellow skin and so on.

But of course, oh your dearie good US military - nah, they won't do any of that. Rape, murder, medical experimentation on their own troops, nah, not any of that. Because we all know to what high regard the Constitution is held these days in the US - and we all know Obama sings himself to sleep with it every day. Because we all know that not dozens of stories have been leaked ever since Desert Storm that show the extreme medical injustices imposed on the average American troop.

Dude, seriously - it's time you stop kidding yourself, wake up and smell the coffee, and get over your infantile worship of the US military - or any military on this Earth for that matter - I won't even single out the US since they just have happened to be in the dominant position for the past 50 years. It [the military] is a pretty goddamn bankrupt institution - and you should be ashamed of it rather than be proud of it.

Kthnx - brb giving me your Tea Party-esque faux-moral outrage at me speaking the plain truth and breaking it down to you. Hero and cult worship can come in many ways - for some, it's slavishly following a shock jock - for others, it's slavishly following a predator class hive that gives their members shiny badges and medals.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Dig on April 02, 2011, 10:00:28 pm
 HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING?  Have you ever been in the military?  Some of you people play this cyber crap.  I have been there.  NEVER, EVER WERE WE TOLD IT WAS OK TO KILL INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

You better wake up buddy. I do not believe that the military is completely f-d, but to deny that the US military is under attack by globalist pigs is to deny reality. And the main reason I am saying this is because I am disappointed in what the military has become and there cannot be any great disappointment where there is no great love. The constitutional US military is without question the true defender of liberty. It has been under attack by Eurocrat bankers since before WWI. General Smedley Butler, the most decorated officer at the time exposed this in the book "War is a Racket". Since WWI, there has been a systematic operation to remove the consciousness and morality from the US soldier. Much of these operations are exposed in Adam Curtis' documentary series called "Century of the Self". But since Vietnam, there has been an acceleration of Eurocratic bankster control over US Military men and women.

Here are a few things to consider:

In Vetnam, there were less than 14% contractors. Now there are over 50% and they get paid 3-10x as much as the US soldier.

The US military is used by globalist corporations for vaccine studies to test drugs that remove emotions (and also make them crazy...see the movie Jacob's Ladder).

The US Military is currently under attack by the Revolution of Military Affairs which is a revolution against the constitution, freedom, and justice. It is a communist program first started in the Soviet Union and the agenda is to remove any individual power to the soldier. The narratives will rule, not reality. Kevin Tillman has exposed this after what the top generals of the US Military did to his brother.  Squarepusher and AI have been exposing the more documented details in this forum as well as elsewhere.

The average US soldier is given one week of training, usually comes from a poor rural community (the New World Order wants to end all rural human habitation), and is thrown into a pit of hell in the Middle East. Some soldiers can cope and maintain a level sense of reality, some become paralyzed with shell shock (renamed Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), some become emotionless and immune to morality or humanity (NOTE: The movie "Valley of Ellah" humanizes this dehumanization process going on in these Middle East genocides, please watch it). Those that become immune to crimes against humanity are recruited by top brass for KILL TEAMS and DEATH SQUADS. This has been going on since Korea at least. Korea was the first war for profit with no real agenda to win.

And lastly concerning your comment about cyber crap...

THE HIGHEST RANKING MILITARY MAN FOR 2001 = 2006 WAS DONALD RUMSFELD. DONALD RUMSFELD WAS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE RAND CORPORATION NOT ONCE BUT TWICE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. RAND CORPORATION'S ENTIRE EXISTANCE IS DUE TO "CYBER CRAP".
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: larsonstdoc on April 02, 2011, 10:27:12 pm
You better wake up buddy. I do not believe that the military is completely f-d, but to deny that the US military is under attack by globalist pigs is to deny reality. And the main reason I am saying this is because I am disappointed in what the military has become and there cannot be any great disappointment where there is no great love. The constitutional US military is without question the true defender of liberty. It has been under attack by Eurocrat bankers since before WWI. General Smedley Butler, the most decorated officer at the time exposed this in the book "War is a Racket". Since WWI, there has been a systematic operation to remove the consciousness and morality from the US soldier. Much of these operations are exposed in Adam Curtis' documentary series called "Century of the Self". But since Vietnam, there has been an acceleration of Eurocratic bankster control over US Military men and women.

Here are a few things to consider:

In Vetnam, there were less than 14% contractors. Now there are over 50% and they get paid 3-10x as much as the US soldier.

The US military is used by globalist corporations for vaccine studies to test drugs that remove emotions (and also make them crazy...see the movie Jacob's Ladder).

The US Military is currently under attack by the Revolution of Military Affairs which is a revolution against the constitution, freedom, and justice. It is a communist program first started in the Soviet Union and the agenda is to remove any individual power to the soldier. The narratives will rule, not reality. Kevin Tillman has exposed this after what the top generals of the US Military did to his brother.  Squarepusher and AI have been exposing the more documented details in this forum as well as elsewhere.

The average US soldier is given one week of training, usually comes from a poor rural community (the New World Order wants to end all rural human habitation), and is thrown into a pit of hell in the Middle East. Some soldiers can cope and maintain a level sense of reality, some become paralyzed with shell shock (renamed Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), some become emotionless and immune to morality or humanity (NOTE: The movie "Valley of Ellah" humanizes this dehumanization process going on in these Middle East genocides, please watch it). Those that become immune to crimes against humanity are recruited by top brass for KILL TEAMS and DEATH SQUADS. This has been going on since Korea at least. Korea was the first war for profit with no real agenda to win.

And lastly concerning your comment about cyber crap...

THE HIGHEST RANKING MILITARY MAN FOR 2001 = 2006 WAS DONALD RUMSFELD. DONALD RUMSFELD WAS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE RAND CORPORATION NOT ONCE BUT TWICE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. RAND CORPORATION'S ENTIRE EXISTANCE IS DUE TO "CYBER CRAP".

  No references.  More Cyber crap.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Dig on April 02, 2011, 10:49:53 pm
  No references.  More Cyber crap.

You wanted references? Shit, why didn't you say so...

CIA and the G7 Banksters Exterminating US Soldiers in mass genocide projects
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=446.0
DU, White Phosphorous, Forced Injections, Institutionalized Rape of Female Soldiers, PTSD, VA Underfunding, Lack of Armor, Psychological/Chemical Tests on Troops, Obstruction of Justice in Investigations

***The transformation of the US soldier into an obedient zombie slave
Insurers Rip Off Families of Fallen US Soldiers
Army’s Vaccine Plan: Inject Troops With Gas-Propelled, Electro-Charged DNA
VA hospitals expose 11,000 soldiers to the AIDS virus
Government Experiments on U.S. Soldiers: Shocking Claims Come to Light
Killing America's Kids and Driving Them Insane
When the Army Uses "Enhanced Interrogation" on an American Soldier
CIA Kills U.S. troops!!
BBC: DU Weapons cause large number of birth defects in Falluja--3-headed baby
30% of women serving in Iraq are raped
VA Guide Urges Sick Vets To End Their Own Lives
KBR (part of Cheney's Haliburton) attempted to murder over 100,000 US Troops
*Afghan soldiers being trained by Blackwater to kill US soldiers
Claims against KBR dismissed in electrocuted soldier case
ARMY RANGER GOES TO PRISON FOR 25 YEARS FOR SHOOTING AL QAEDA OPERATIVE
WMD has Been Found in Iraq and 1M U.S. Soldiers are its Victims
Hundreds of thousands of US troops poisoned by DU, disabled by TBI & PTSD
More Troops Lost To Suicide Than Combat In Iraq And Afghanistan
Army efforts don't stem Fort Hood suicides 
How Psychologists Profit on Unending U.S. Wars
Soldiers Who Took Part in Torture Suffer from Severe PTSD
U.S. Government's Message to America’s Vets: "Drop Dead"
Army sees worst month for suicides ever
More proof that the war driving our kids insane and the MSM is demonizing them
A Nation Under Post-Traumatic Stress
Soldier killed in Afghanistan had joined Army to help son with Medical Coverage
Army Doctors Tell Soldiers With Brain Injuries to 'Stop Complaining'
Military Neglecting Fort Hood Soldiers' Medical Needs 
Ft Carson 36 suicides, 14 convicted in 11 killings/ All from same Platoon
How the Pentagon Is Cheating Wounded Vets -- Soldiers Aren't Disposable
U.S. military goes hungry in Afghanistan
18 veterans commit suicide each day - Army Times
(http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=397.0)
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: larsonstdoc on April 02, 2011, 10:57:01 pm
You wanted references? Shit, why didn't you say so...

CIA and the G7 Banksters Exterminating US Soldiers in mass genocide projects
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=446.0
DU, White Phosphorous, Forced Injections, Institutionalized Rape of Female Soldiers, PTSD, VA Underfunding, Lack of Armor, Psychological/Chemical Tests on Troops, Obstruction of Justice in Investigations

***The transformation of the US soldier into an obedient zombie slave
Insurers Rip Off Families of Fallen US Soldiers
Army’s Vaccine Plan: Inject Troops With Gas-Propelled, Electro-Charged DNA
VA hospitals expose 11,000 soldiers to the AIDS virus
Government Experiments on U.S. Soldiers: Shocking Claims Come to Light
Killing America's Kids and Driving Them Insane
When the Army Uses "Enhanced Interrogation" on an American Soldier
CIA Kills U.S. troops!!
BBC: DU Weapons cause large number of birth defects in Falluja--3-headed baby
30% of women serving in Iraq are raped
VA Guide Urges Sick Vets To End Their Own Lives
KBR (part of Cheney's Haliburton) attempted to murder over 100,000 US Troops
*Afghan soldiers being trained by Blackwater to kill US soldiers
Claims against KBR dismissed in electrocuted soldier case
ARMY RANGER GOES TO PRISON FOR 25 YEARS FOR SHOOTING AL QAEDA OPERATIVE
WMD has Been Found in Iraq and 1M U.S. Soldiers are its Victims
Hundreds of thousands of US troops poisoned by DU, disabled by TBI & PTSD
More Troops Lost To Suicide Than Combat In Iraq And Afghanistan
Army efforts don't stem Fort Hood suicides 
How Psychologists Profit on Unending U.S. Wars
Soldiers Who Took Part in Torture Suffer from Severe PTSD
U.S. Government's Message to America’s Vets: "Drop Dead"
Army sees worst month for suicides ever
More proof that the war driving our kids insane and the MSM is demonizing them
A Nation Under Post-Traumatic Stress
Soldier killed in Afghanistan had joined Army to help son with Medical Coverage
Army Doctors Tell Soldiers With Brain Injuries to 'Stop Complaining'
Military Neglecting Fort Hood Soldiers' Medical Needs 
Ft Carson 36 suicides, 14 convicted in 11 killings/ All from same Platoon
How the Pentagon Is Cheating Wounded Vets -- Soldiers Aren't Disposable
U.S. military goes hungry in Afghanistan
18 veterans commit suicide each day - Army Times
(http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=397.0)
  You don't get what I was telling WAY BACK--this stuff did not happen in our medical battalion.  I was just pointing that out. I know this crap goes on. 
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Dig on April 02, 2011, 11:26:54 pm
 You don't get what I was telling WAY BACK--this stuff did not happen in our medical battalion.  I was just pointing that out. I know this crap goes on.  

I did go back. This is what Satyagraha stated:

Remember - guys sitting behind desks back in the Pentagon, at RAND corp., CSIS and the rest of the MIC goons are promoting the attitude that is filtered down to the troops.

Which exposed the fact that the military soldier is being nudged toward a dehumanizing state. Instead of researching yourself, you started attacking the messenger with the following:

 HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING?  Have you ever been in the military?  Some of you people play this cyber crap.  I have been there.  NEVER, EVER WERE WE TOLD IT WAS OK TO KILL INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

The response was bizzaro to say the least as everything has been thoroughly documented. It prompted replies that were casted off as unsourced and therefore "crap":

 No references.  More Cyber crap.

So now that you are given thorough references, you are saying that all of the responses to your post are true, but that you were not questioning the psychological attacks on US soldiers, you were simply pointing out that you personally were not told to go kill innocent people. I understand, but other people were psychologically guided to kill innocents. Tens of thousands in the past 8 years at least have been guided this way.

It is part of the Revolution in Military Affairs and if you care to actually look into it, it may assist the general public in waking up to this wholesale act of treason against the US military and the entire country.

The Revolution in Military Affairs is a communist program where the goal is to eliminate the entire defense forces so that theglobalists can just come in and blitzkrieg the entire defenseless country with Effects Based Operation, Asymmetric Warfare, and "SMART GENOCIDE".
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: larsonstdoc on April 02, 2011, 11:32:31 pm


  I was just telling you that we did not have this bizzare stuff going on in our unit---end of story.  I should know--I was the chief medical officer.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Dig on April 02, 2011, 11:35:27 pm


After Pat’s Birthday
(http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/kevin_pat_350.jpg)
http://www.veteransforamerica.org/page/weblog/subpage/display_blog/bid/667C14D6-123F-747A-1B6A7A92CD67580A
Oct 19, 2006 By Kevin Tillman

Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004. Kevin, who was discharged in 2005, has written a powerful, must-read document.

It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after.  It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military.  He spoke about the risks with signing the papers.  How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people.  How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition.  How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we get out.

Much has happened since we handed over our voice:

Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is.  Something like that.

Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.

Somehow our elected leaders were subverting international law and humanity by setting up secret prisons around the world, secretly kidnapping people, secretly holding them indefinitely, secretly not charging them with anything, secretly torturing them.  Somehow that overt policy of torture became the fault of a few “bad apples” in the military.

Somehow back at home, support for the soldiers meant having a five-year-old kindergartener scribble a picture with crayons and send it overseas, or slapping stickers on cars, or lobbying Congress for an extra pad in a helmet.  It’s interesting that a soldier on his third or fourth tour should care about a drawing from a five-year-old; or a faded sticker on a car as his friends die around him; or an extra pad in a helmet, as if it will protect him when an IED throws his vehicle 50 feet into the air as his body comes apart and his skin melts to the seat.

Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes.

Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground.

Somehow those afraid to fight an illegal invasion decades ago are allowed to send soldiers to die for an illegal invasion they started.

Somehow faking character, virtue and strength is tolerated.

Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated.

Somehow the death of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people is tolerated.

Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and The Constitution is tolerated.

Somehow suspension of Habeas Corpus is supposed to keep this country safe.

Somehow torture is tolerated.

Somehow lying is tolerated.

Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.

Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world.

Somehow a narrative is more important than reality.

Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.

Somehow the most reasonable, trusted and respected country in the world has become one of the most irrational, belligerent, feared, and distrusted countries in the world.

Somehow being politically informed, diligent, and skeptical has been replaced by apathy through active ignorance.

Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country.

Somehow this is tolerated.

Somehow nobody is accountable for this.

In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people.  So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity.  Most likely, they will come to know that “somehow” was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites.

Luckily this country is still a democracy.  People still have a voice.  People still can take action.  It can start after Pat’s birthday.


Brother and Friend of Pat Tillman,


Kevin Tillman
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: chris jones on April 02, 2011, 11:44:08 pm
 Very good, this subject hits home for all of us.
 One point before I get into this, Gibbs was off the map in 2008, that says it all, 201 files don't just walk away, I smell intel or Agency. Just my opinion.
 In the late 60's, my first few weeks in Nam, I was assigned to a sniper team(Tay Ninh). Only 3 men. One was a Sergeant who had killed his wife and her lover, this poor slob came home expectantly and found them, lost his head and shot them, multiple homicides, A Jamaican , professional hitter who was imprisoned-murder. The third, I have no idea, he was a very quiet guy. Each was released from prison, records erased to serve for 4 years consecutive, sniping. I thought I had stepped into the outer limits, well folks I did, the war in Nam was insanity.
No, I din’t stay with this unit, I requested a transfer with a defensive unit , it was granted.
 11th. Armored Cav under the command of Col Patton, and yes his father was General Patton. He would fly over the troops in his LOH with his bull horn calling his troops to battle, making a point that he wanted to see arms and legs flying, body counts the high priority.
 The phoenix program, profiling and sorting out those who were capable of assassinations.
I'm going back a while I know it, Colby, Westmoreland, the lot of them,  instigated these actions.
 At the very least, on a positive note, not all of the troops were kill crazy, in fact only a small percent.  Rest assured the superiors were well aware of who they could call upon.
I have to rant on this, sorry folks. In civilian society we will find sociopaths, murderers, sold out wakos. The same is true with the military, what are the boundaries. Is there a comparison to be made here between the Mafia hitters and the  military ones…A mafia boss or  Mil Intel & the agency-Don’t assume the superiors are not aware of their troopers mental state.
We need a defensive military, after all the world is not a bed of roses. Problem is it’s not a defensive unit, it is controlled by pols and they are controlled,,  puppets for the elites. In all honesty  if the military was defensive, protecting this nation and people, I  most likely would have stayed in. The truth as we all know , it is not.
Nam was a money maker for the money grubbing parasites, the same as our current wars.
The focus of this post is the kill teams, I understand that, and I hope I haven’t gone off the map here.  I’m an old bag of bones, forgive me for getting off track at time. But when I think about these kids enlisting with no concept whatsoever of what war truly is, gets me sick.  
The feeders who orchestrate these wars are very aware of what happens to the troops, how to control them, use them, brain dip, and intimidate. The military is voluntary, what’s that tell you, the variations of enlisted men are parceled. The poor, the blind patriotic young raised in a right wing home,  simply put in one form or another the ignorant and naive.
Hell, I’m not defending these guys, they need to be in chains, but so do their superiors, and the souless sacks of Shiite that orchestrated this abomination. These kill teams are in our faces, true evil exposed. Compare this to the grid bombing of Iraq!! Hundreds of thousand killed, the better part civilians, what do you come up with, fact-no imagery? The realism exposed, the imagery that found its way to the public make a everlasting impression, revolting, horror. Sure it does.
So too does grid bombing, no discrimination is involved, men, woman, children, infants, and any other life form.. The results of this were not open to the evaluation of the public, no imagery that I know of showing the true effects.
Nam, a vill had been bombed, a young father walked in my direction holding the blood soaked rags and limbs of his daughters  to his chest, his mouth was open but no sound came forward. It haunts me to this day.
I’m all over the place on this post,  point, we see the imagery of the evil, the troopers on a kill spree, why not the civilians killed in Iraq, there were all kinds of bodies,!!  The IMAGERY would have made bad press, woke some folks up perhaps.
I better shut the hell up, excuse my rant.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Jackson Holly on April 03, 2011, 08:36:45 am

There are good soldiers, trying to make a better world,
who play 'by the rules' and act as 'morally' as possible
while blowing people to bits. My Dad and my Uncles
and my Father-in-Law were such soldiers in WWII I do
firmly believe ... but those old timers came home very
ashamed of themselves, with the fire of youth and the
fresh twinkle gone forever from their eyes ... in many ways
they were all shell-shocked and demoralized if you ask me ...
and they were very reluctant to speak of their experiences.
I believe, deep down, they knew intuitively that they had been
used and used up, as cannon fodder in the 'great game' ...
they knew, perhaps without verbalizing it, that the
'Great War' was like all the rest ... murder and mayhem in
the service of profit, de-population and monarchical hegemony.


Here is one of the best threads here on this subject ... in my opinion:

    
Killing America's Kids and Driving Them Insane
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=134731.0 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=134731.0)
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: chris jones on April 03, 2011, 12:47:59 pm
 Holly.quote you (There are good soldiers, trying who play 'by the rules' and act as 'morally' as possible while blowing people to bits. My Dad and my Uncles and my Father-in-Law were such soldiers in WWII I do firmly believe ... but those old timers came home very ashamed of themselves, with the fire of youth and the fresh twinkle gone forever from their eyes ... in many ways they were all shell-shocked and demoralized.
 Combat changes men, I came home a stranger to myself and to my loved ones, the collateral damage, and wars hack at the human body, the mind and the soul. Holly, I finished reading the topic you posted Prison planet forum.134731.0. The tears flowed...My grandkids call me old and sentimental, perhaps they are correct, or it could be I have been exposed to experiences that I pray they never bear witness to. They asked me about the war, how I survived, I don't give them war stories, I tell them the lord was watching over me, (he was).
 When returning home my battle was attempting to hide my pain, how in the name of the God Almighty can a guy make it home alive and expose this pain to his loved ones, the  soul wrenching inner horror to those who have no concept of the difference between war and sheltered in peace.
 Please correct me if I am off base. The MSM during the Vietnam war were involved, due to this fact I believe the regime banned imagery-photos-in depth reports of the genocide in Iraq-for one example.  I compare the orchestrators of war for profits far above the scale of the cannibal Doctor Lector in that film, silence of the lambs.  In fact they make this guy look like an amateur lunatic. These subhuman elitists would eat human fetus at their gatherings  if to insure their profits and power.
The kill teams: I am with hope that the citizenry understand all soldiers are not of this mindset, but, those who send Americas sons to do battle, those who genocide the innocent, who perpetuate evil, who use humanity as their feeding grounds, are on a scale of evil far beyond these men who have stepped over the line and lost their minds and souls.
Far too many naive and ignorant youngsters, good kids-good men-are stuck in the boots. Good Men, I am with hope they are not labeled as we were in Vietnam, I pray the conscience of this nation is awakened to the fact they are but fodder for the elites machine, the true evil is the instigators, the deceivers on high.
Isn’t it time Americans focused on the true EVIL..

Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingston
Post by: Jackson Holly on April 03, 2011, 01:30:40 pm


chris jones ... thank you ... for everything.

Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: bigron on April 05, 2011, 07:38:11 am
 
The Censored War and You


by Kelley B. Vlahos,


April 05, 2011


When I was a small girl, my favorite book in my grandfather’s study was the 1973 edition of The Best of LIFE, and looking back now, I’d say it scarred me—for life.

Most people have seen the horrifying images of the pre-pubescent Vietnamese girl running, naked and hysterical, away from her napalm Armageddon. Ubiquitous, too, is the “suspected Viet Cong terrorist” with a gun to his head, seconds before his execution in the streets of Saigon. There is the baby sprawled face down on the pile of dead My Lai victims in the ditch—a massacre that might have been hidden forever if this and other photos were never published. Then I would see the inconsolable Vietnamese woman, leaning over what we’re told are the remains of her husband tied up tight in a garbage bag. How could he fit in there, I remember thinking, as I turned to these gruesome images, over and over with a tortured curiosity and a growing knot in the pit of my stomach that’s never really gone away.

MUCH MORE HERE

http://original.antiwar.com/vlahos/2011/04/04/the-censored-war-and-you/


Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on April 05, 2011, 03:20:14 pm
'Kill Team' Brigade commander given wrist slap
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/apr/5/kill-team-brigade-commander-given-wrist-slap/
Published on April 5, 2011

The investigation into those responsible for the Afghanistan "kill team" tactics led to "a letter of admonition" of Col. Harry D. Tunnell IV, reports the Military Times on Tuesday. According to MT: (bolding is mine)

"Was a brigade commander an instigator or just asleep at the switch while the 5th Stryker Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, “kill team” was allegedly murdering civilians?

An Army investigation finds no “causal relationship” between Col. Harry D. Tunnell IV’s aggressive leadership and the killings, but it criticizes Tunnell for neglectfulness that created a climate ripe for misconduct.

The investigation, first reported by Der Spiegel on Monday, ended in a letter of admonition for Tunnell, per I Corps Commander Lt. Gen Curtis “Mike” Scaparotti.


Tunnell’s superiors in Afghanistan lost confidence in him after he threw out the playbook and butted heads with commanders, derisively rejecting capacity-building counterinsurgency doctrine in favor of a “counter-guerilla” strategy that concentrated in engaging and destroying the enemy."


 Der Spiegel found statements in the Army report saying that Tunnell was out for revenge "on a personal crusade" as a result of being shot in the leg in Iraq. MT quotes a soldier who described Tunnell:

"One soldier said of a talk by Tunnell, “If I were to paraphrase the speech and my impressions about the speech in a single sentence, the phrase would be: ‘Let’s kill those motherf**kers.’”

The Washington Times Water Cooler found that lawmakers on the hill claim to either not know the story or refuse to comment on the alleged actions of the Afghanistan "kill team." In a Washington Times piece, Joe Curl describes the media blackout of the story entirely even after Spc. Jeremy Morlock pleaded guilty in March for his part in murdering unarmed Afghanistan civilians.

The incident has brought comparisons to the 11 army guards at Abu Ghraib in 2004 who were tried and convicted on a number of counts for what was called detainee abuse and torture. No Abu Ghraib prisoners, however, were killed, however, as a result of the crimes. Mr. Curl writes:

The two scandals have some similarities. At Abu Ghraib, photos of prisoner abuse streamed out. Der Spiegel, the German magazine that broke the new story (again, paging the New York Times), claims to have 4,000 photos and videos of atrocities against civilians.

But the similarities end there. The “kill team” is accused of targeting civilians — including a 15-year-old boy — and then trying to cover up the murders by making it appear as if they were attacked. Only 19 photos have surfaced; one shows a smiling U.S. soldier holding a dead civilian’s head up off the ground by his hair.

Donald Rumsfeld,former Defense Secretary for President George W. Bush, told The Washington Times last week of the Afghanistan "kill team" photos: "The situation, of course, is much worse if someone dies, but it's a sad thing. It's unfortunate. The overwhelming majority of men and women in uniform are professional. They handle themselves well."

Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on April 05, 2011, 03:22:48 pm
From The Military Times:

‘Kill team’ brigade commander pushed ‘strike and destroy’ [UPDATED]
http://militarytimes.com/blogs/outside-the-wire/2011/04/05/kill-team-brigade-commander-pushed-strike-and-destroy/
APRIL 5TH, 2011 | OUTSIDE THE WIRE | POSTED BY JOE GOULD

Was a brigade commander an instigator or just asleep at the switch while the 5th Stryker Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, “kill team” was allegedly murdering civilians?

An Army investigation finds no “causal relationship” between Col. Harry D. Tunnell IV’s aggressive leadership and the killings, but it criticizes Tunnell for neglectfulness that created a climate ripe for misconduct.
The investigation, first reported by Der Spiegel on Monday, ended in a letter of admonition for Tunnell, per I Corps Commander Lt. Gen Curtis “Mike” Scaparotti.

Tunnell’s superiors in Afghanistan lost confidence in him after he threw out the playbook and butted heads with commanders, derisively rejecting capacity-building counterinsurgency doctrine in favor of a “counter-guerilla” strategy that concentrated in engaging and destroying the enemy.

“Soldiers lives are routinely put at hazard because the doctrine has not been written within a context of American military art and science, organization or capability,” he told investigators in his own statement for the report. “US Army forces are not organized, trained, or equipped to implement the doctrine.”

Der Speigel, quoting from the report, said Tunnell was on a personal crusade in Afghanistan to take revenge for being shot in the leg in Irag; He kept the metal rod from his leg on his desk and would use it “as an illustration,” one officer said.

One soldier said of a talk by Tunnell, “If I were to paraphrase the speech and my impressions about the speech in a single sentence, the phrase would be: ‘Let’s kill those motherf**kers.’”

The Washington Post, which also obtained a copy of the report, quotes Brig. Gen. Frederick B. Hodges, then-director of operations in southern Afghanistan:

“Looking back on my relationship with him, I regret that I wasn’t more involved in his professional development during his tenure as a brigade commander,” Hodges said. “I should have specifically told him that MG Carter and I had lost confidence in his ability to command from his failure to follow instructions and intent.”
The Seattle Times reports that Tunnell’s approach inspired fierce loyalty among some soldiers, but alienated some officers.

“What was shocking was the level of … disorganization, the level of mistrust among the lieutenant colonels (in the brigade) and their commander,” said Stjepan Mestrovic, a sociologist who was given access to the report as a defense expert witness for Spc. Jeremy Morlock, who pleaded guilty last month to participating in the murder of the unarmed Afghans.

UPDATE: Tunnell’s break with Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s COIN guidance should have come as no surprise.
In 2009, Army Times’ Sean Naylor detailed in a controversial piece from the war zone how squad leaders in Tunnell’s brigade were vocally upset that Tunnell was calling his own non-COIN plays, and that they felt unprepared for Afghanistan.

Frustration with the disconnect bred a cynical humor at one company command post, where a quote posted on the wall read: “Apparently COIN stands for Clearing Operations in November.”
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: chris jones on April 05, 2011, 04:37:37 pm
“causal relationship” between Col. Harry D. Tunnell IV’s aggressive leadership and the killings.
What these bigd dogs are saying, this does not contitute a relationship between the acts of the EM' and that of their col.'s command. According to the word game, this full bird is not their superior, what is he a tourist?
  The chain of command, the higher up it goes the more it becomes political rather than Military. The good ol boys club, the power, the protective cover.  Brig. Gen. Frederick B. Hodges“Looking back on my relationship with him, I regret that I wasn’t more involved in his professional development during his tenure as a brigade commander,” Thats cute, after the Kills have been exposed he regrets it, tell it to the families of the murdered. &&&He admits prior knowledge with that statement.
 Same O same O..Ok. that out of the way, it has been estimated that 100,000 civilians were killed during the invasion of Iraq. Guess what, no imagery, photos, live film or news broacasts. We bear wintness to the murder of civilans, it is evil, no doubt about it.  But folks- What of the genocide?  ZIP
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Satyagraha on April 07, 2011, 07:11:05 am
Published on Wednesday, April 6, 2011 by CommonDreams.org

Kill Team: The Bigger Picture

by Josh Stieber

One year ago, Wikileaks’ “Collateral Murder video1 created outrage over the actions of U.S. soldiers in Baghdad, including the platoon I deployed with. If that grisly video didn’t stop you in your tracks, the photographs and report on the “Kill Team,” released by Rolling Stone should be the wake-up call for truly examining what is being done in our name.2

Before making connections between the two events, it is important to note that I am not making a moral equivalency. Though innocent civilians were killed during the “Collateral Murder” incident, it did occur after a firefight, weapons were found on some of the bodies, and it was not premeditated. In contrast, the “Kill Team’s” murders were preplanned and carried out with no threat, and body parts of the slain were sadistically taken as trophies. That is not a moral excuse for the “Collateral Murder” case, but to evaluate the implications of both events, the context must be presented.

That said, both glimpses of warfare ought to raise serious questions at a fundamental level. Mark Boal’s Rolling Stone piece exposes exactly what was lacking in the “Collateral Murder’s” analysis: the climate in which the behavior occurred. Despite the much more gruesome and visceral level of the “Kill Team” case, however, the same damage control is still being attempted. The protocol response to these scandals is to isolate them as cases of rogue units at complete odds with how the rest of the military performs in Iraq and Afghanistan. Boal penetrates beyond an easy scape-goating of low ranking soldiers by also reporting on the shortcomings of higher ranking officers.

Fox News ran an opinion piece on May 30th from Michael Yon, a reporter who embedded with 5th Stryker Brigade, the unit scrutinized in the Rolling Stone article.3 Yon refutes claims that the attitudes and habits which birthed the sport killings of Afghan civilians were widespread by insisting that he would have known about it, and that he trusted the character of the unit’s leaders.Accusing Rolling Stone of shoddy journalism, he then calls for a boycott. Friendship with subjects is a poor substitute for investigative journalism, though not unprecedented. My unit also had a journalist, David Finkel, and his book about the deployment I was a part of, The Good Soldiers, describes a much more sanitized reality than I experienced.

The military hierarchy creates a convenient defense for those higher up the rungs;  as it’s phrased in military lingo, “shit rolls downhill.” If somebody as high up as Donald Rumsfeld is remarking, “it is interesting, in the case of Abu Ghraib, that it was such an important press event and nobody was killed. And in this case, it looks like there are allegations that some people were actually killed,” then Michael Yon is on lonely footing in condemning the story.5

Yon’s other main argument is that a video of soldiers shooting Afghans off of a motorcycle was justified; Boal, however, never said that it wasn’t and clearly stated that the men may have been armed. The video was used to show that videos and pictures of dead Afghans were widespread and led to an overall culture that degraded the worth of the very people to whom these wars are supposed to deliver freedom and security. I encountered this same practice, even beyond my own unit: sitting with a group of soldiers at the Dallas airport on my mid-tour leave in July of 2007, one guy pulled out his laptop and showed photos of dead Iraqis. I tried unsuccessfully to change the subject, and was further bewildered when a civilian approached us, thanked us for our service, and said he was sorry for the things we had to see. Chuckling at bloody corpses encouraged a disregard for human life; or, as one of the “Kill Team” members put it, “none of us in the platoon – the platoon leader, the platoon sergeant – no one gives a f**k about these people.”

Boal’s piece further describes how locals tried to inform officers of the atrocities being committed, only to be regularly ignored. Yon may be shocked, but I don’t find it hard to believe. Disgusted over what I’d seen in Iraq—most notably a policy that made any civilian fair game after a roadside bomb explosion—I applied for conscientious objector status after return from combat in 2008. On the report I filled out for my application, I listed seeing civilians killed as one of the determinants in my decision. My Commanding Officer said that I could only make this claim if I listed the soldiers who carried out the orders, but would not accept my listing of the officer who gave the command. Determined not play into the military’s tactic of placing misconduct on the lowest possible soldier while ignoring those who pushed for it, I withdrew the statement when my leader refused to file the paperwork with our Battalion Commander listed as the guilty party. The full story later came to light with when other members of my unit verified my statements in a Nation interview.6

Perhaps the most glaring aspect of the military’s damage control, often repeated by the media, is the lack on analysis on the local impact. A short apology by generals cannot wipe away the contradiction between a war to end terrorism while rebuilding a nation, and the means with which it is carried out. Malalai Joya, a former member of the Afghan parliament, and who, ironically, was nearly barred from her U.S. speaking tour this month on what “democracy” looks like in her country, stated the blunt reality: “Afghans do not believe this to be a story of a few rogue soldiers. We believe that the brutal actions of these "kill teams" reveal the aggression and racism which is part and parcel of the entire military occupation.”7

While U.S. leaders react to scandal, Joya reveals the overall culture which may not always end in publicized outrage, but makes that line easy to cross. Joking about killing “haji”--the the racist slur for Arabs equivalent to calling  Vietnamese people“gooks—begins in basic training. Trophy photos of slain Iraqis or Afghans only add to the callousness. Criticism of abuse is minimized, whether it’s my case or that of a “Kill Team” member whose father, when warned of what was going on, called his son’s unit only to be brushed aside. Drop weapons—arms taken from enemy combatants, used to plant on unarmed who were killed—were kept by my unit, just as they were by the “Kill Team;” we didn’t use them, to my knowledge, but they were the blank check for trigger-happiness. Some may still insist that these realities are exploited by a few bad apples; but it doesn’t take much imagination to wonder when, if it hasn’t already passed, the Afghan support needed to create stability will have been permanently lost because too many  bad apples reveal a rotten tree. This isn’t to say that most military members commit the same atrocities as the “Kill Team,” but the overall culture in which they were perpetrated is enough to put the war’s ends at odd with it its means.

The difference between Joya’s description of the bigger picture, and Yon’s damage control is a microcosm of the vicious cycle that further propels this war. U.S. officials insist that a few more years, an increase of troops, or extra money will lead to victory. In the meantime, when civilians are accidentally killed or the military outrages locals in some other way, quick apologies are uttered with no structural changes, or excuses are given that soldiers are weary or that the Taliban is worse. Then, when incidents like the “Kill Team” happen, they’re dismissed as extreme outliers. But with this track record, more of the same is ominous news for Afghans; in the words of Malalai Joya, “Once you know all this, and once you have seen the "kill team" photos, you will understand more clearly why Afghans have turned against this occupation.”
 

1.http://www.collateralmurder.com/
2.http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-kill-team-20110327?page=8
3.http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/03/30/bogus-report-rolling-stone-troops-afghanistan-crying-bullst/
4.http://www.amazon.com/review/R1GR6NQ87KGV3W/ref=cm_aya_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0374165734#wasThisHelpful
5.http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/03/donald-rumsfeld-says-the-kill-team-actions-are-worse-than-abu-ghraib.html
6.http://www.thenation.com/article/38034/wikileaks-baghdad
7.http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/30/kill-team-photos-afghanistan-us


Josh Stieber deployed as part of "The Surge," with the infantry unit depicted in Wikileaks' "Collateral Murder" video, when he was assigned to Baghdad from Feb 2007-Apr 2008. After leaving the army as a conscientious objector in 2009, he and another veteran bicycled across the US to share their experiences and challenge assumptions about war. Stieber also coauthored a letter of reconciliation to Iraqi war victims and is working for further reconciliation in partnership with Iraqi Health Now; currently a student, he continues to speak, write, and organize.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/04/06-8


Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: ghost hacked on April 07, 2011, 10:38:07 am
You think those soldiers would hesitate to fire on American citizens if ordered to?

Not one bit. If given the orders, they would. Kind of how the police are now conditioned to fire on civilians (tear gas rubber bullets), and when the time comes for the police to use live rounds, again, like the soliders, they would.  They have been completely conditioned and brainwashed for that purpose.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: charrington on April 07, 2011, 11:21:01 am
You better wake up buddy. I do not believe that the military is completely f-d, but to deny that the US military is under attack by globalist pigs is to deny reality. And the main reason I am saying this is because I am disappointed in what the military has become and there cannot be any great disappointment where there is no great love. The constitutional US military is without question the true defender of liberty. It has been under attack by Eurocrat bankers since before WWI. General Smedley Butler, the most decorated officer at the time exposed this in the book "War is a Racket". Since WWI, there has been a systematic operation to remove the consciousness and morality from the US soldier. Much of these operations are exposed in Adam Curtis' documentary series called "Century of the Self". But since Vietnam, there has been an acceleration of Eurocratic bankster control over US Military men and women.

Here are a few things to consider:

In Vetnam, there were less than 14% contractors. Now there are over 50% and they get paid 3-10x as much as the US soldier.

The US military is used by globalist corporations for vaccine studies to test drugs that remove emotions (and also make them crazy...see the movie Jacob's Ladder).

The US Military is currently under attack by the Revolution of Military Affairs which is a revolution against the constitution, freedom, and justice. It is a communist program first started in the Soviet Union and the agenda is to remove any individual power to the soldier. The narratives will rule, not reality. Kevin Tillman has exposed this after what the top generals of the US Military did to his brother.  Squarepusher and AI have been exposing the more documented details in this forum as well as elsewhere.

The average US soldier is given one week of training, usually comes from a poor rural community (the New World Order wants to end all rural human habitation), and is thrown into a pit of hell in the Middle East. Some soldiers can cope and maintain a level sense of reality, some become paralyzed with shell shock (renamed Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), some become emotionless and immune to morality or humanity (NOTE: The movie "Valley of Ellah" humanizes this dehumanization process going on in these Middle East genocides, please watch it). Those that become immune to crimes against humanity are recruited by top brass for KILL TEAMS and DEATH SQUADS. This has been going on since Korea at least. Korea was the first war for profit with no real agenda to win.

And lastly concerning your comment about cyber crap...

THE HIGHEST RANKING MILITARY MAN FOR 2001 = 2006 WAS DONALD RUMSFELD. DONALD RUMSFELD WAS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE RAND CORPORATION NOT ONCE BUT TWICE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. RAND CORPORATION'S ENTIRE EXISTANCE IS DUE TO "CYBER CRAP".

As you point out - the military change isn't new - this has been an on going attack against our moral standards for quite some time now. The Korean war wasn't any better.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: JT Coyoté on April 07, 2011, 12:04:23 pm
The US military system has been hijacked and become a training ground. The myriad undeclared wars/police actions/kinetic military actions are all controlled by the globalists
in policy and on the ground through their privately commanded, fed/world bank paid "contractors" a stealthy recruiting tool.

Our guys and gals do their 2 years in these training theaters. many upon seeing the money and the power the globalist armies like blackwater and others have, rotate out and join the globalist army... Most if not all of these atrocities being committed by soldiers are by these changelings... these sold out globalist goons...

Righteous soldiers of the US will rotate out and become the lawful Constitutional militia a citizen soldier of American people. They will put their training to work for the Constitution and the American people whose individual voices and power have made the Constitution the most important political document in history!

The thieving, mind altering, morals destroying, murdering globalist contractor thugs, through their actions, by selling their soul to empire, will loose it all...

JTCoyoté

"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money, first by inflation  
and then by deflation, the banks and corporations
that will grow up around them, will deprive the people
of their property until their children will wake up
homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

~Thomas Jefferson
Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: Dig on October 11, 2011, 04:33:33 pm
Now does everyone understand why Ron Paul calls the list an impeachable offense? (at the least!)
Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: giark65 on October 11, 2011, 05:54:20 pm
Bump 

Prussian history repeats.  >:(  Not the pattern we were taught in school, not the story we see on the news, not the story our government wraps in sweet licks, not the life I want for anyone but the treasonous culprits (which a few of you expose so well).  Those making laws, passing governance, supporting war and the British Crown are the last to fight on the field.  Rome sure never left home.  Treason isn't spoken enough against those who claim to be American, right Barry?  Maybe you need some Mau Mau oath ceremonies back home.

Thanks Chris...time to be upset.  Some have more than blood on their hands gifted to them by some sick Brzezinski framed minds.  Reflect on what our governance and faux pax leaders pass on.  I'd hope we are more than the ownerless property bred unto our masters for profiting.  Sure seems that way.  Kill lists are just sickening yet expected from these parasitic bodies who've looted our country and now want to protect their blood sucking ways so they can feed more on our anemic lives they've built for us.
Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: L2Design on November 03, 2011, 03:08:07 pm
Soldiers are so brainwashed...

Its going to be you and me being shot by some foreign army and tied up like hogs....

You can put your guns down and walk away--its not worth a VA loan or your disability checks...
Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: chris jones on November 05, 2011, 09:01:33 pm
 Larson. Your unit was under the command of decent man. There were men, brass, in Nam who litteraly lorder kills, profied, hand picked, guys who had stepped over the line mentally.
 The brass knew what was going on, they were involved, the backroom talkys and order, the whole nine yards bro0ther. It does not stop with the mentall case in the field, it does however go up the ladder to the brass, and coersion with agency, DOD etc.
  A rule of thumb, assassins have been used throughout history, so have soldiers, USED. The Pheonix Program being a a good example of their methodry.
Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: giark65 on November 05, 2011, 09:38:02 pm
Prussia was America's road map to design.

just uploaded this video Chris...watch.  i threw up half way into it...i s h i t you not.  and i have intestinal fortitude... aka ranger battalion...pat tilman style. 

http://www.youtube.com/user/cyp367?feature=mhee (http://www.youtube.com/user/cyp367?feature=mhee)
Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: chris jones on November 06, 2011, 06:50:29 am
Prussia was America's road map to design.
just uploaded this video Chris...watch.  i threw up half way into it...i s h i t you not.  and i have intestinal fortitude... aka ranger battalion...pat tilman style. 
Hey Giark, i know the feeling, I get sick to stomach just thinking about it. I knew some guys who were raped by priests in Boston, hey, its on a par with murder in the first, the cardinal covered it up, when it was exposed he ran to the Vatican, protected.
 We fought for this nation under the belief we were protecting our people and our nations honor, we were zits to these fukers on high, nothings, numbers at the very most in comparrison to these kids that were attacked, they will never be the same.
 This film says it all, who's got the power. Not the people, we are mushrooms in the closet, in the dark, being fed shiit. Giark, sociopaths, pyschopaths, etc, the general concept is some derelict nutbag, or some freaky individual. The truth is they are on the tube every day feedin us shiit, hiding behind their titles, their positions, makeup, hairstyles, wrapped in a flag and the bible under their arm. The perfect refuge for the insanely evil. (Give the people the Ol Rherotic and they will wiggle the flag), they are hiding right in front of us. Its showtime brother, and the citizenry didn't wake up. Even the war in Vietnam, that FK price paid, the awakening didn't hang in there.
PS: on a personel note:Giark, you know the deal by the numbers, seems to me you found out the hard way, Just as I did. ONCE-I was behind this nation, believed in it, and trusted our leaders, though with questions, it took me a while to walk through the looking glass. God help America, may the people come to a knowledge of the truth.
These sociopathic freaks realized that the most effective manner of covering their true intentions was to develop a mask, acting the perfect the part of a human being with emotions and integrity, and go for the power, knowing their true nature would be protected by the true powers behind the curtain.  Intelligent psychos are difficult to catch.
I will not be buried on American soil though it is my right to be interned at Arlington national cemetery.  Please know, I truly believed in origins of this nation, the constitution, Bill  of Rights, but frankly brother this is not that America . The elitist mafia has been busy for much longer than most realize, working 24/7 to bring down this nation. Absolute domination of the masses is necessary  for them to complete this task, it seems to me they are in high gear, the last phases of their goal.
I have ranted, and my sympathy for having to listen to an ole dog, I did because I have a feeling your kicking around the globe like I did, visiting nations, cultures, and discovering first  hand knowledge, it’s a soul thing. I know what its like to look at this nation you would have fought and died for, seeing it from the outside looking in.

Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: giark65 on November 06, 2011, 07:25:22 am
Chris, first you can call me Kraig any day.  You've earned that respect.  Others can continue calling me jerk.

Second, neither you nor I are lying dogs waiting to be kicked anymore.  I may have just a few teeth left but they still bite.

We may lose but we'll never win if we don't try. 

You must join me at Abel Danger.  Just listen.  Every Wednesday 2-5 p.m. EST. 

http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/20111102-mcconnellhawkins1.mp3 (http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/20111102-mcconnellhawkins1.mp3)

I just created the youtube channel with my images to prove the point your voice is heard.  We can make a difference.  Perception is 90% of what we think.  The other 10% is what we do with our perceptions.  What do you say?
Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: chris jones on November 06, 2011, 09:28:14 am
 Hi Keith, perception  ( it rilles them to beleive that we perceive the web they weave), old time verse.
   My perception was based on my childhood training, family, and society, a very limited ability to say the least.
   I look back knowing something was not right, my feelings only  , but unable to cross the line due to the peramiters , rhetoric etc., much like a good number of our citizenry today.
   Admittedly, I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree, therfor I had to find out for myself what the truth is, and yes I did.
 
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: DireWolf on December 19, 2011, 12:12:29 am
Of course not. There is no conscience there. These sick animals are insane and dangerous.


 Now they are coming home to work in various capacities as law enforcement!  This should worry everyone.
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: global_fiefdom on December 19, 2011, 12:28:15 am
(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/gallery/93a1f89d75968aabcc96c095bc4f2a73eda158f7.jpg)
i still cant believe what they did to that beautiful little boy
Title: Re: **REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPOSED: The Kill Team Photos - Rollingstone
Post by: Geolibertarian on December 19, 2011, 06:19:05 am
Now they are coming home to work in various capacities as law enforcement!  This should worry everyone.

To those who've been brainwashed into literally worshipping "the troops" -- no matter how thuggish or psycopathic they behave -- this will be cause for celebration, not worry.

Title: Re: What is a treasonous 'KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS' list and how might it be used?
Post by: chopperscfl on January 02, 2012, 03:52:13 pm
That's a damn shame, I can't believe they shot a kid like that. There were cases in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan of the enemy using their children to throw grenades at soldiers and to blow themselves up. My friend who was in Iraq saw it first hand. This was not one of those cases. There are a lot of great people in the military, the majority of them are, so don't make the mistake of lumping the "military" all in together. These soldiers are absolutely sick and they wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on us US citizens. As mentioned, they are coming back and getting jobs at NSA, TSA, and local LE jobs, scary. As more info comes out, it looks like these soldiers "acted on their own", but don't be fooled, there are teams in the military composed just to do things like this, and I wouldn't be surprised if there is already some American "kill team" already assembled behind the cloak of darkness for use in this country.