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Title: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 09:21:41 am
Mohammed al-Shaibah, Air Cargo Director for Yemenia Airways said to Yemen Post, "No UPS cargo plane left Yemeni lands over the land 48 hours. These accusations are false and baseless."http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=2705&MainCat=3 (http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=2705&MainCat=3) If we get the tail numbers from these planes, can we get the flight info for these aircraft? I am going back through old reports now and am having no luck finding any mention of tail numbers.

Anyone with knowledge on aircraft, please jump in here and tell me if we can verify the flight paths of these planes supposedly from Yemen.

Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:22:51 am
woking on it now
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:24:55 am
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01749/philadelphia_1749994c.jpg)

sky news leading with this at east midlands airport

can`t make much of anything out on it !
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:27:35 am
and again

(http://itn.co.uk/story4331ed1d2dba3bed059e3c4ba12501e7.jpg)

not photos of the tail numbers . . . how strange
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:29:08 am
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/10/29/1288383185147/UPS-bomb-graphic-007.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 09:30:49 am
Wouldn't the airport that these planes were to originally have listed the flight number and other details?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:31:24 am
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/10/30/1225945/400545-bomb-scare.jpg)

There seems to be no tail numbers in any of the photos

inexplicable (:()
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 09:33:11 am
MD 11 family
The MD-11, the world's only modern large, wide-cabin trijet, offers a highly sophisticated flight deck and advanced automatic system controls that substantially reduce pilot workload. In service with customers in all parts of the world, the MD-11 was produced in Long Beach, California, at the Douglas Products Division of the Boeing Commercial Airplanes until February 2001. A worldwide network of subcontractors and suppliers supported the assembly line.

The MD-11 was available in four models -- passenger, all freighter, convertible freighter and "combi," where passengers and freight are carried on the main deck with additional freight carried below the deck. An extended-range (ER) feature was available on all versions.

Seating capacities on the standard airplane vary from 285 in a three-class arrangement to 410 in an all-economy configuration. Below the main deck, the MD-11 provides more space for containerized or palletized cargo after passenger bags are loaded than any other jetliner, yielding important additional revenue for its operators.

Advances in aerodynamics, propulsion, aircraft systems, cockpit avionics and interior design contribute to the performance and operating economy of all MD-11 models. Aerodynamic improvements include winglets and a redesigned wing trailing edge, a smaller horizontal tail with integral fuel tanks and an extended tail cone. These features reduce drag, save fuel and add range.

The nonstop range of the standard MD-11 operating at a maximum takeoff weight of 602,500 pounds (273,290 kg) is approximately 7,630 statute miles (12,270 km) with 285 passengers and their bags. The extended-range version of the MD-11, equipped with an auxiliary fuel tank and operating at a higher maximum takeoff weight of 630,500 pounds (285,990 kg), has a range of approximately 8,225 statute miles (13,230 km).

Three engines -- General Electric CF6-80C2, Pratt & Whitney 4460, and Pratt & Whitney 4462 -- are offered to power the MD-11, providing maximum efficiency in their thrust class.

The advanced flight deck features six cathode ray tube displays, digital instrumentation, wind-shear detection and guidance devices, a dual flight management system that helps conserve fuel and a dual digital automatic flight control system (autopilot) with fail operational capability. Computerized system controllers perform automated normal, abnormal and emergency checklist duties for major systems, reducing flight crew requirements from three to two persons. Industry-standard interlinked wheel-and-column controls enhance crew communications and situation awareness at all times.

The MD-11 was launched on Dec. 30, 1986. Assembly of the first unit began March 9, 1988. First flight was on Jan. 10, 1990. Certification occurred Nov. 8, 1990, with first delivery on Dec. 7. For comparison, the MD-11 is 200 feet 10 inches (61.2 m) long, or 18.6 feet (5.66 m) longer than the earlier DC-10 trijet, and carries about 50 more passengers.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: Orwells1984 on October 30, 2010, 09:34:54 am
Its a CIA jet. Enough said
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:35:49 am
which is great we know it was an MD11 but the trail stops there - unless anyone here is familiar with those plane tracking sites that allow you to track planes? (can`t be that many coming from Yemen right?)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 09:38:47 am
Do cargo planes not have tail numbers?


(http://media.kcrg.com/images/suspiciouspackages470.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:40:05 am
Thats what I was thinking but they should have a number lower down on the side - they use it to ID themseleves to ATC

UNLESS#

TPTB got smart and figured that we`d check this and so used planes that are not traceable???
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 09:41:22 am
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/29/article-1288367895469-0BD40B57000005DC-748796_636x467.jpg)
No tail numbers.....?

What about a flight number?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:50:56 am
so I managed to get this from flightstats all flights out of yemen`s main airport yesterday (Sana'a) - but it does not list anything to UK

Destination Flight Rating Airline Sched Actual Gate Status Equip Track
KRT Khartoum  IY 632     Yemen Airways  01:00    Unknown  738   
JED Jeddah  IY 514     Yemen Airways  01:00    Unknown  310   
NBO Nairobi  QR 6533   Qatar Airways  01:11    Unknown  ABY   
ADD Addis Ababa  IY 622     Yemen Airways  01:30    Unknown  310   
IST Istanbul  TK 837       Turkish Airlines  01:45  02:02   Landed    21 min  73W     
CAI Cairo  MS 692           Egyptair  04:30    Landed  On-time  738   
CAI Cairo  IY 8692 ^        Yemen Airways  04:30    Landed   On-time  738   
HOD Hodeidah  FO 170      Felix Airways  06:30    Unknown  CR2   
HOD Hodeidah  IY 9170 ^     Yemen Airways  06:30    Unknown  CR2   
GXF Seiyun  FO 184          Felix Airways  07:00    Unknown  CR7   
GXF Seiyun  IY 9184 ^     Yemen Airways  07:00    Unknown  CR7   
BEY Beirut  IY 643           Yemen Airways  07:30    Unknown  310   
BEY Beirut  ME 3300  ^    Middle East Airlines  07:30    Unknown  310   
DXB Dubai  IY 821           Yemen Airways  08:30    Unknown  738   
DXB Dubai  GF 5951 ^      Gulf Air  08:30    Unknown  738   
TAI Taiz  FO 160             Felix Airways  08:30    Unknown  CR2   
TAI Taiz  IY 9160 ^       Yemen Airways  08:30    Unknown  CR2   
ADE Aden  FO 612          Felix Airways  09:00    Unknown  CR7   
RUH Riyadh  IY 532         Yemen Airways  09:00    Unknown  738   
RUH Riyadh  SV 6175 ^    Saudia  09:00    Unknown  738   
ADE Aden  IY 9612          Yemen Airways  09:00    Unknown  CR7   
KWI Kuwait  IY 825         Yemen Airways  09:35    Unknown  310   
KWI Kuwait  KU 6825 ^    Kuwait Airways  09:35    Unknown  310   
RIY Riyan  FO 150            Felix Airways  10:00    Unknown  CR7   
DXB Dubai  EK 962           Emirates  10:05  09:57   Landed   On-time  332   
CAI Cairo  IY 602             Yemen Airways  10:45    Landed   On-time  310 
Destination Flight Rating Airline Sched Actual Gate Status Equip Track
JED Jeddah  IY 506          Yemen Airways  13:00    Unknown  738   
JED Jeddah  SV 687          Saudia  14:15  14:08   Landed   On-time  320   
AMM Amman  RJ 709         Royal Jordanian  14:30  14:35   Landed
  On-time  320   
AMM Amman  IY 8709 ^     Yemen Airways  14:30  14:35   Landed   On-time  320   
ADE Aden  IY 9880            Yemen Airways  15:00    Unknown  CR7   
ADE Aden  FO 880             Felix Airways  15:00    Unknown  CR7   
TAI Taiz  FO 166               Felix Airways  16:00    Unknown  CR2   
TAI Taiz  IY 9166 ^           Yemen Airways  16:00    Unknown  CR2   
DOH Doha  QR 453             Qatar Airways  16:40  16:19   Landed   On-time  320   
ADE Aden  FO 806              Felix Airways  18:00    Unknown  CR7   
ADE Aden  IY 9806 ^          Yemen Airways  18:00    Unknown  CR7   
HOD Hodeidah  FO 172        Felix Airways  18:15    Unknown  CR2   
HOD Hodeidah  IY 9172 ^    Yemen Airways  18:15    Unknown  CR2   
ASM Asmara  IY 630     Yemen Airways  18:45    Unknown  310   
RIY Riyan  IY 507         Yemen Airways  19:00    Unknown  738   
RUH Riyadh  SV 683      Saudia  19:45  19:43   Landed   On-time  320   
RUH Riyadh  IY 8683     Yemen Airways  19:45    Unknown  MD9   
ADE Aden  IY 520         Yemen Airways  20:30    Unknown  738   
RIY Riyan  FO 250         Felix Airways    20:30    Unknown  CR2   
FCO Rome  IY 740        Yemen Airways  23:20    Landed   On-time  310 
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 09:55:30 am
An aircraft registration is a unique alphanumeric string that identifies a civil aircraft, in similar fashion to a licence plate on an automobile. In accordance with the Convention on International Civil Aviation all aircraft must be registered with a national aviation authority and they must carry proof of this registration in the form of a legal document called a Certificate of Registration  at all times when in operation. Most countries also require the aircraft registration to be imprinted on a permanent fireproof plate mounted on the fuselage for the purposes of post-fire/post-crash aircraft accident investigation.

Because airplanes typically display their registration numbers on the aft fuselage just forward of the tail, in earlier times more often on the tail itself, the registration is often referred to as the "tail number".
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 09:57:10 am
The mystery deepens......
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 09:58:45 am
Maybe though they do not list cargo flights?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: carlee on October 30, 2010, 09:59:19 am
fed x seems to have numbers   

(http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2008-9/25/25069.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: carlee on October 30, 2010, 10:01:54 am
this is not the plane but you can see this one has a number

(http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2009-4/17/42770.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: carlee on October 30, 2010, 10:03:45 am
found this interesting photo   
(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkIebM8xM03MAZf6jzbkF/SIG=14dsq1kn4/EXP=1288537371/**http%3a//trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/Obama%2520and%2520the%2520UPS%2520plane%2520in%2520Raleigh%2520NC%252010-29-08.jpg)
this was posted with the photo
This is beautiful news!  Yesterday President Obama along with the other members of the G-8 set a lofty goal to reduce global carbon emissions by 50% by the year 2050. Along side that wonderful news was this:

UPS, according to their annual sustainability report released Tuesday, plans to replace many of their old airplanes with a new, more eco-responsible fleet that will reduce their carbon emissions by 20%!

This significantly adds to their overall carbon emissions reduction which is  cumulative reduction of 42% since 1990.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 10:04:51 am
thats cool Carlee - It seems then that the pictures on TV are purposefully avoiding showing the numbers
or the press has been corralled into one area where they can not capture the number

I`m guessing ALL UPS flight numbers end in UP


Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: carlee on October 30, 2010, 10:05:55 am
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Serial_Inquiry.aspx

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 10:16:18 am
Hey carlee, where did you find that photo? Was it in a related story?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 10:17:12 am
We could of course FOI UPS / FED EX for the tail numbers . . .
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: carlee on October 30, 2010, 10:21:02 am
Hey carlee, where did you find that photo? Was it in a related story?
   http://lovinglogistics.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 10:23:29 am
I tried blowing this one up , but cant make it out

(http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/united-parcel-service-jet-1.703902!image/3647657181.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/3647657181.jpg)

Source: http://gulfnews.com/news/world/usa/suspicious-packages-found-on-us-bound-cargo-planes-1.703771 (http://gulfnews.com/news/world/usa/suspicious-packages-found-on-us-bound-cargo-planes-1.703771)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: carlee on October 30, 2010, 10:25:50 am
http://www.aircrashobserver.com/e107/news.php?item.2138.3
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 10:34:42 am
Here you can find information about the N code
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0257.shtml (http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0257.shtml)

The N means a us aircraft........
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 10:39:51 am
I emailed the BBC and asked them why they were not covering the rebuttal by yemen - no response but they just mentioned a release from UK Yemen embassy to that effect

Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 10:40:04 am
A fourth plane has also been detained in England. Local and federal authorities are investigating suspicious packages aboard a UPS plane that landed at Philadelphia International Airport at about 9 a.m. from Paris, France, and a plane, from Cologne, Germany, that has been isolated near the UPS terminal.

The plane from Germany landed in Philadelphia at about 8 a.m. and was scheduled to depart at 10:30 a.m. for Louisville, Kentucky.
Authorities say the incident in Philadelphia began when a crew member aboard the plane from Paris notified authorities on approach about a suspicious package. The two crew members safely exited the aircraft after landing in a remote area of the airport.

At about the same time, another plane landed safely at Newark International Airport and was isolated, and a fourth plane en route to Chicago was detained in Birmingham, England. Authorities say the packages may have originated out of Yemen. http://www.aircrashobserver.com/e107/news.php?item.2138.3 (http://www.aircrashobserver.com/e107/news.php?item.2138.3)

Another question is, Just where was the package found? seems odd a crew member is just wondering around thru packages.....
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 10:42:22 am
(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID18134/images/Emirates_Airlines.jpg)

My eyes are not this good but there is a tail number - anyone?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: carlee on October 30, 2010, 11:09:34 am
(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID18134/images/Emirates_Airlines.jpg)

My eyes are not this good but there is a tail number - anyone?
I tried blowing it up then looking at it with a 45x microscope only  still looks like a blob
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 11:11:08 am
hmmm i cant make it out either paerhaps someone can see it thou
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 11:21:07 am
OK, I believe I have a flight number on the one that was headed to Kentucky
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do)

Flight 5X 204

"A fourth plane has also been detained in England. Local and federal authorities are investigating suspicious packages aboard a UPS plane that landed at Philadelphia International Airport at about 9 a.m. from Paris, France,"
http://www.aircrashobserver.com/e107/news.php?item.2138.3 (http://www.aircrashobserver.com/e107/news.php?item.2138.3)

Now, Can we get a N number with the flight number?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: ersatz on October 30, 2010, 11:36:50 am
here is a pic of the # on the tail of the ups plane that was stopped at newark liberty airport,i believe.
...this was taken during a local broadcast,the special breakin news report that day.

assuming all the flight # protocols are the same..the last 2 letters are usually UP

(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/ersatz_protocol/newarklibertyups.jpg)

so: N---UP

to me it looks like N?20UP

...can't make out that initial # that well...possibly a 1?..  N120UP


Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 11:49:34 am
Re: Flight 5X 204

Thats one of them for sure - it was supposed to fly onward but has not

http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightTracker/flightTracker.do?id=207870267&airlineCode=5X&flightNumber=204

UPS 204 Tracking is not enabled for this flight.

Flight: (5X) UPS 204
Status: Landed   888 minutes late 
 
Departure: (PHL) Philadelphia International Airport
Scheduled: 9:26 AM (runway) 
Actual: 12:19 AM (runway) 
 
Arrival: (SDF) Louisville International Airport
Scheduled: 10:56 AM (runway) 
Actual: 1:44 AM (runway) 
 
 
Flight Tracking is available for active flights originating or arriving within the United States, Canada and Europe. Flight tracking also depends upon the cooperation of the airlines and the completeness and accuracy of the data they submit. As a result, we are not currently able to track flights from some airlines such as Lufthansa and British Midland.
 

Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: jofortruth on October 30, 2010, 11:55:31 am
Remember this recent incident in Dubai?
http://www.emirates247.com/news/emirates/pilots-identified-in-ups-plane-crash-2010-09-05-1.287719
http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/1-1-scale-commercial-aviation/88201-cargo-aircraft-down-dubai-ups-747-400f-crash.html


Tail was N 571UP




Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 11:57:10 am
OK,

Here is a screen capture of the flight that was held in Philly

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/rikover/theplane.jpg)

Flight number 5X204
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: jofortruth on October 30, 2010, 12:14:02 pm
Check this out:
http://flightaware.com/live/fleet/UPS

History of UPS flights here, but have to register.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 12:20:36 pm
Got it......

Suspicious packages on UPS aircraft, no explosives
By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Oct 29th 2010 16:25Z, last updated Friday, Oct 29th 2010 21:25Z

The US Transportation Security Administration ordered several flights of UPS to be searched for suspicious cargo after a suspicious toner cartridge had been found on a UPS flight in East Midlands,EN (UK) today around 03:30L (02:30Z).

The suspicous cartridge, reported as bomb by a TV station, proved negative on tests for explosives. The TSA at this point does not yet rule out a radiological background however.

The TSA said, the suspicious toner cartridge appeared to be manipulated.

The flights currently searched in the USA:

- 5X-218 Paris Charles de Gaulle (France) to Philadelphia,PA (USA), B763 N306UP
- 5X-204 Cologne (Germany) to Philadelphia,PA (USA), MD11 N286UP
- an unidentified flight from Europe to Newark,NJ (USA), according to FAA radar tracks only one UPS aircraft arrived in Newark from Europe, flight 5X-208 Cologne (Germany) to Newark,NJ (USA), B763 N303UP

At the time of the alert in East Midlands UPS flight 5X-232 from Cologne (Germany) to Philadelphia,PA (USA) via East Midlands, a B763 registration N330UP, was on the ground at East Midlands having arrived at 02:30L (01:30Z). The flight departed again at 04:30L (03:30Z) on schedule after the originally suspicious package was found harmless.

The FBI reported, that none of the packages found in the US contained any explosives. The packages originated in Yemen and were sent by the same sender.

The President of the United States of America Barack Obama said in a televised speech, that a credible terrorist threat existed. Packages located in England and Dubai (United Arab Emirates) appeared to contain explosives.

http://avherald.com/h?article=432cf13e&opt=0 (http://avherald.com/h?article=432cf13e&opt=0)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 12:24:31 pm
Nice work freedomrik - so lets see what the flight trackers say about these planes

(caveat - TPTB could make them say anything as we know)

Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 12:27:23 pm
Something a bit off here:

Registration data for tail no: N30 6UP

http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N306UP

FAA Aircraft Registration (N306UP)
Aircraft Summary
Summary Owner Airworthiness Serial Number
1996 BOEING 767-34AF
Fixed wing multi engine
(190 seats / 2 engines) UNITED PARCEL SERVICE CO
LOUISVILLE, KY
(Corporation) Standard/Transport 27759
Aircraft Details
Engine Weight Speed Mode S Code
GE CF6-80 SERIES
Thrust: 47600lbs (Turbo-fan) Over 20,000lbs Not defined 50633554
Registration Details

Status Certificate Issue Date Airworthiness Date Last Action Date
Assigned  2008-08-04 2005-02-01 2008-08-04

190 seats anyone?

Would`nt they have ripped the seats out to make room for, duh, parcels?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 12:30:56 pm
and again:

FAA Aircraft Registration (N286UP)
Aircraft Summary
Summary Owner Airworthiness Serial Number
1991 MCDONNELL DOUGLAS MD-11F
Fixed wing multi engine
(240 seats / 3 engines) UNITED PARCEL SERVICE CO
LOUISVILLE, KY
(Corporation) Standard/Transport 48453
Aircraft Details
Engine Weight Speed Mode S Code
P & W PW4460
Thrust: 60000lbs (Turbo-fan) Over 20,000lbs Not defined 50563025
Registration Details

Status Certificate Issue Date Airworthiness Date Last Action Date
Triennial mailed  2006-09-06 2007-02-02 2010-01-19

Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 12:58:43 pm
I thought this was interesting....

By Paul on Saturday, Oct 30th 2010 04:55Z

Hi. Was listening and watching live coverage on CNN and MSNBC. that Emirates flight #201 from UAE had originated from Yemen a day earlier and thought to have containing package (suspicious) from Yemen. That is why first Canadian fighters over Canada and then USAF escorted it to JFK. That is all I know so far.

How curious
By Mark Lincoln on Saturday, Oct 30th 2010 03:19Z

The Obama administration has told the press that Obama was notified at 10:30, EST yesterday of this plot, yet it didn't intercede and depended upon the Brits to catch the bomb - which the Brits originally stated was not a bomb - instead of stopping the UPS flight on the ground in Yemen.

Perhaps this was just incompetence upon the part of the Obama administration and US intelligence.

I cannot remember many occasions when US governments have bragged about their incompetence.

As the announcement by Obama was delayed until just before the end of the Friday News Cycle, and it will dominate the Sunday Talk shows instead of the US elections, . . .

Well, folks, don't forget to vote.



Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: jofortruth on October 30, 2010, 01:02:34 pm
Shows various UPS plane diagrams:
http://www.ups.com/aircargo/using/services/services/domestic/svc-aircraft.html
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 01:04:11 pm
Thanks Jo.

Its gone a bit quiet on the news now - nothing since 24 or 26 more things seized in yemmen depending what channel you have on.

anyone hear anything new?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 01:07:49 pm
Yemen arrests woman over parcel bombs sent to U.S. synagogues


http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/yemen-arrests-woman-over-parcel-bombs-sent-to-u-s-synagogues-1.321969 (http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/yemen-arrests-woman-over-parcel-bombs-sent-to-u-s-synagogues-1.321969)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 01:11:08 pm
I heard they arrested two women earlier today - that these women were not connected to AQ that they were just p*ssed at the west

yeah sure - they were able to build bombs of a sophoisticated level too i suppose?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: jofortruth on October 30, 2010, 01:25:27 pm
Notice how the media and Janet always mention the Underwear Bomber in all new incidents, even when we know that was a fraud and the State Dept admitted it was their guys who did it way after the fact. So, knowing the one they REPEAT AD NAUSEUM was a fraud, one can only think this is more of the same! And it's election time so we must have fearmongering!

 ::)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 30, 2010, 01:28:02 pm
Its trying to give the latest fiasco credibility by tying it to previously "sucessful" operations

tarred with the same brush

guilt by association

that kind of thing !
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: jofortruth on October 30, 2010, 01:28:35 pm
Thanks Jo.

Its gone a bit quiet on the news now - nothing since 24 or 26 more things seized in yemmen depending what channel you have on.

anyone hear anything new?

 ;)

I heard them talking this morning about it on all the major networks, and saw Brennan, Janet and Ed Markey (I'm sure hes being paid well to push bodyscanners and the like). I will check out the networks later today to see if they are still running the same tapes.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 02:12:30 pm
Notice how the media and Janet always mention the Underwear Bomber in all new incidents, even when we know that was a fraud and the State Dept admitted it was their guys who did it way after the fact. So, knowing the one they REPEAT AD NAUSEUM was a fraud, one can only think this is more of the same! And it's election time so we must have fearmongering!

 ::)

Does anyone have a link to where it was admitted the state department owned up to their involvement?

This issue makes it a very good time to bring this fact back to light and Anwar Al-Awlaki, who lunched with pentagon officials after 911
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: jofortruth on October 30, 2010, 02:22:37 pm
UAE Rejects US claims on Flight 201:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/148857.html

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Meanwhile the US president hinted at boosting the US military role in Yemen following reports about the "suspicious packages."



So, is this the real reason for the demonization of Yemen yet again? So we can invade their country like we do everywhere else and make Obama appear strong pre-election? Disgusting! Throw all of the bums out in DC.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: jofortruth on October 30, 2010, 02:24:46 pm
Does anyone have a link to where it was admitted the state department owned up to their involvement?

This issue makes it a very good time to bring this fact back to light and Anwar Al-Awlaki, who lunched with pentagon officials after 911


http://www.infowars.com/state-department-admits-detroit-christmas-bomber-was-deliberately-allowed-to-keep-us-entry-visa-board-his-flight/
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: freedomrik on October 30, 2010, 02:47:44 pm
Thanks jofortruth.......for the link.....


Also, as mentioned earlier in this thread
Yemen bomb plot prompts U.S. officials to re-examine crash of cargo plane in Dubai last month. The UPS plane crashed shortly after takeoff, killing 2 - NBC News
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: citizenx on October 30, 2010, 06:54:02 pm
PDF:  List of Airports Served by UPS

(Yemen ain't on there!)

http://www.ups.com/aircargo/using/services/airports/internationalAirports.pdf

Another UPS web page which lists airports used:

http://www.upslogisticstech.com/pub/worldwide/EMEA/

Something is very rotten with Big Brown.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: Dig on October 30, 2010, 07:02:20 pm
What false flags can brown do for you?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: citizenx on October 30, 2010, 07:21:19 pm
List of UPS hubs from Wikipedia

Note:  UAE not listed either.


Where were planes flying to and from and why? (If indeed there were any such flights at all.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Parcel_Service_hubs
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: citizenx on October 31, 2010, 04:16:57 am
THE UPS TERROR FLIGHT FROM YEMEN THAT NEVER WAS!


Obama's "scare the Americans into voting Democratic" plan is already in trouble. The official story on Friday October 29th was that an unnamed ally issued a warning for British authorities to be on the lookout for a suspicious package sent from Yemen to Great Britain on a UPS flight. A search of the UPS flighty on the ground in Britain yielded a package containing a printer toner cartridge sprayed with a white substance that looks like plastic Christmas tree snow.

(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af223/dacitizen/suspiciious_cartridge.jpg)

To make the "toner cartridge of death" look even scarier, a circuit board was attached to the outside with wires. Careful analysis of the card itself suggests it is a circuit card from a TV set, most likely the tuner, circa 1980s

(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af223/dacitizen/story_suspicious_cargo1_uk.jpg)

Note carefully there is no battery to power this object, nor were any detonators found.

The initial reports of the toner cartridge reported no explosives were found in it.

     link:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8097333/Cargo-plane-bomb-alert-ink-cartridge-bomb-found-on-plane-in-London.html

Of course, Obama claimed exactly the opposite, which left the BBC struggling to placate the President while not allowing themselves to look like they were changing the original story to do it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmA5tHzOR0U&feature=player_embedded

But the story gets better! The original claim was that the suspicious package originated in Yemen and flew to Britain on an aircraft owned by UPS, and the media showed us all the video of a UPS aircraft being stopped and searched on the runway in Britain.

(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af223/dacitizen/102910-UPSpackage2.jpg)

But there is a problem. There are no UPS aircraft flying in and out of Yemen!

UPS own website (from before the so-called terror incident) does not list Yemen as one of their service regions.

http://www.upslogisticstech.com/pub/worldwide/EMEA/

A PDF file (which includes the history of the document from weeks ago) listing of all the international airports the UPS aircraft fleet flies to does not list Yemen as a destination!

http://www.ups.com/aircargo/using/services/airports/internationalAirports.pdf


In short, there was not and could not be a UPS aircraft flying out of Yemen.

UPS uses a subcontractor, Sun Tours, to handle shipping in and out of Yemen. Sun Tours sends their shipments via Yemenia Air, and Yemenia Air's Cargo Director reports there were no shipments sent through Yemen to Chicago for the 48 hours prior to the "discovery" of the toner cartridge in Britain.

http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=2705&MainCat=3

A second claim that a flight from Dubais carried packages from Yemen has been refuted by the United Arab Emirates' Civil Aviation Authority.

 http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2010/10/uae-rejects-us-claims-on-flight-201/

In short a toner cartridge that cannot explode shows up on a UPS jet which could not have come from Yemen, and Obama pounds it for all its worth trying to save the Democrats next Tuesday. Frankly I think Americans should be outraged not that Obama tried such a stunt, but that after all the times Bush was caught using terror scares for political gain that Obama thinks you are all stupid enough to fall for it again! If tonight's polls are accurate, you weren't and you didn't and Obama may have just screwed his own party to the point where they are all praying for Diebold to save them!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/23/olbermann-timeline-how-th_n_88110.html





from:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/UPSYemen.php
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Good overview of the false-flag/hoax IMO.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 31, 2010, 04:42:37 am
I went on the UPS site - they`ll get out of this the following ay:

They will say it was a special courier delievery - and or a business special flight - not one commonly used.

We have them banged to rights. Watch them shove the last 2 days worth of news down the memory hole and re write it !
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: citizenx on October 31, 2010, 04:45:55 am
"Election special" fake bomb delivery charter evidently.

What a joke.  They don't fly out of Yemen and they don't have a hub in Dubai -- though that city ahs been the site of a lot of UPS and CIA funny business.

Total crock from square one.

"When you need an October surprise and you absolutely need it there before the weekend before the election."

Oh right -- that's the other guys.

I'm sure we'll be hearing about them next.

"Oh, well it was really a Fedex flight."
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: phasma on October 31, 2010, 04:50:03 am
Exactly. Watch them wriggle. I think they under estimated the extent , an intelligence of people like us whom never take things at face value and ask - is this real before flying off the handle on some anti muslim rant !
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: citizenx on October 31, 2010, 01:16:19 pm
"Election special" fake bomb delivery charter evidently.

What a joke.  They don't fly out of Yemen and they don't have a hub in Dubai -- though that city ahs been the site of a lot of UPS and CIA funny business.

Total crock from square one.

"When you need an October surprise and you absolutely need it there before the weekend before the election."

Oh right -- that's the other guys.

I'm sure we'll be hearing about them next.

"Oh, well it was really a Fedex flight."

And heeeeeeeere comes the devil:

Mail bomb in Dubai sent on 2 passenger planes      

ADAM SCHRECK, Associated Press Ahmed Al-haj And Adam Schreck, Associated Press – 1 hr 18 mins ago



SAN'A, Yemen – One of two powerful bombs mailed from Yemen to Chicago-area synagogues traveled on two passenger flights within the Middle East, a Qatar Airways spokesman said Sunday. The U.S. said the plot bears the hallmarks of al-Qaida's offshoot in Yemen and has vowed to destroy the group.

The airline spokesman said a package containing explosives hidden in a printer cartridge arrived in Qatar Airways' hub in the capital Doha on one of the carrier's flights from Yemen...


...For its part, FedEx said the shipment originated in Yemen and was confiscated at its shipping facililty in Dubai.

for the entire article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mail_bombs
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Right on cue.

Well, what do you expect from a bunch of folks named after the "Feds"?

Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: Joe(WI) on October 31, 2010, 01:58:41 pm
if you absolutely need the tail numbers, i can try a reverse enhance and figure out(hopefully) what the numbers were, just PM me.

pro'lly  get done Monday unless you poke me quick.

seeing the font they use for the numbers would be a huge help too.

having clear stock pictures are a huge help three.


If anything, this is nothing but a huge scare tactic, I would think knowing HOW they knew the suspicious package, and WHERE would be more important.
(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af223/dacitizen/story_suspicious_cargo1_uk.jpg)
The circuit board looks like a stripped cell phone, not a tv tuner(note the plated contact pads in staggered rows on left)

personally, if I were going to mail-a-bomb, I would put it inside innocuous something that would focus the blast, but on a wide body cargo plane, even if it did all I hoped for, it wouldn't depressurize the cabin. This story needs to be trashed asap. Good work everyone.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: citizenx on October 31, 2010, 02:13:58 pm
Right it has been id'd as a logic board (pcb) from a cell phone -- unable to transmit or receive on its own -- and no battery in the picture either.

Rivero's article was wrong about that, above, I believe.
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 Commentary  October 31, 2010

Normally we wouldn't post readers comments but this is different.

Sent in by a reader, it indicates the extent to which people are no longer buying the official version of the war on Terror.

Below are readers comments to the article Al Qaeda ink cartridge bomb found on jet was linked to mobile phone SIM card.

In fact the readers comments are more interesting than the article itself, which repeats the official line that "Fears have been growing rapidly over the terror threat posed to the West by Islamic fundamentalists based in Yemen" etc, etc.

Also sent in by another readers is a list (PDF) of airports served by United Parcel Service (UPS).

Note that UPS isn't on the list.

A few of the readers comments, and we haven't  been selective, reveal mounting public scepticism:

the same week as the BA head honcho says that US security is over the top this happens....what a coincidence!

- Robb Flynn, Jersey City, NJ, 29/10/2010 17:19

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Here we go again.
More lies to keep the masses in check.
It's now getting silly.

- Tony, Essex, 29/10/2010 17:16

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Call me cynical if you will, but as soon as someone makes an intelligent comment about the over the top restrictions in place at UK airports - because we have been told to take them by the Yanks - a suspicious package is found.

These same restrictions do not apply to (US Flag) planes flying in US airspace.

Tis about time the 'mighty' USA stopped telling everyone else in the world what to do. Since 2000 we have had to put up with the utterances of a President that went to war, a PM that followed because he was told to and now a lame duck in the White House who hates the British and who needs to look big in the world to cover up his complete mis-read of the Drill Rig disaster in the Gulf. (Yes it was BP's rig, but a US company screwed up - Halliburton).

Time will come in the not to distant future when the whole world will give the US the bird.
- John, Luton, ENGLAND, 29/10/2010 17:14

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Bit of a coincedence that this event occurs only a few days after Martin Broughton's comments about 'kowtowing' to US demands for increased security at UK airports.

You couldn't make this stuff up. What a joke!

- Mohammed, London, 29/10/2010 17:14

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It don't work anymore Dave, we are wise to these 'false flag' stories.
Stories such as this no longer distract us from the fact that you have lied to us yet again and you will be kow towing to the EU with their demand for an increase in the budget.
You are a fool to think that we, the electorate, are foolish enough to believe anything you say anymore.

- anthony, Ipswich, 29/10/2010 17:17

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You don`t here of the israelis having bomb scares do you they have a system called profileing it works,So if you want ot know how to stop terrorists planting bombs on planes ask the israelis they are old hands at it.

- W.H., dudley, 29/10/2010 20:19

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HOW VERY CONVENIENT! DAYS AFTER BAA WANTED TO REDUCE THE EXCESSIVE SAFTY CHECKS AT OUR AIRPORTS AND NO SURPRISE A SMALL "BOMB" IS FOUND IN AMERICA! DONT SUPPOSE THIS WILL BE PRINTED EITHER

- j, brightonown, 30/10/2010 10:33

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Take Yemen out of the loop. No flights in or out. Simple.

- Lawrence, Devon, UK, 30/10/2010 10:28
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Ba's chief complains about security check and blow me down a day later on American controled aircraft two bombs are found!!!!

- ray, southend on sea, 30/10/2010 10:31

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Hmm, just as the US goes to the polls.

Stay scared, people.

- Steve, London, UK, 29/10/2010 17:04

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It's not just airports. I went to a meeting at the Gherkin in London today and had to show my passport, put my belongings on a scanner belt, walk through one of those security archways AND be 'wanded' before I could go to the meeting. Surreal.
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do you believe this ?, is there any connection between a proposed scaling down in security checks, and this highly publicised so called indecent. This hue and cry is all US instigated, to ensure passenger still have to remove shoes belts etc. Don't believe a word of it - do you ?.

- Rich, Midsomer Norton Somerset, 29/10/2010 19:05

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A toner cartridge with wires poking out of it.
AND it contained powder.

Mmm that IS suspicious isn't it?

No explosives though (just exactly what one would expect to find in a broken toner cartridge).

Very handy though, coming a couple of days after someone was stupid enough to suggest that we should all fly naked and de-hydrated was perhaps a bit silly.

We are sick and tired of such "false flag" scares - designed to keep us all scared and "bury" bad news.

In the 1970s, almost every other aircraft (or so it seemed) was hijacked by some group or other - how come we din't have all these restrictions then?

Most people I know are awaiting anther "false flag" attack somewhere - so they can take away more of the few freedoms we have left.

- Paul Kearns, HMP, Ilfracombe, North West Europe, 29/10/2010 19:26
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Just in time for christmas , obama will be hoping ratings for his persona rises and surely blair will come out
beaming saying ' we were right all along to act as we did in the war on terror '; PS wasn't the plane a little too
close to people when it Landed at J.F.K. considering they ' knew ' a device was on board ?

- Observer, here & there, 30/10/2010 10:28
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Hmmm.. this could explain why I saw a fighter escorting a jet earlier this afternoon
- dros, romford, 29/10/2010 17:10

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Susan, Chicago USA, 29/10/2010 10:43 - you fly regularly now, did you do so before 9/11. I remember prior to that date there was no security at US airports, passengers and their family could all walk up to the gate with no bag check, no shoe check, no check whatsoever. All the reasons 9/11 could happen.

Since then I have seen the most stupid security policies in the world, where they check flip flops on a little old lady, and let me wearing big combat boots which could hide much more through without a check.

Taking your shoes off to look for explosives is stupid, we have dogs and machines that can detect explosives, so why the need to remove shoes apart from making you afraid and controllable by the experience?

- Lee, Pasadena, USA, 29/10/2010 20:18

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I just returned from the UK and I felt tempted to speak to the security people who were asking for shoes to be removed and who were stopping umbrellas from being taken aboard.

After one has passed through security, one can then proceed to the duty-free store and buy a couple of bottles of wine or spirits. Anyone who has watched a bottle fight knows that a bottle can be used both as a club and as a cutting device.

If the so-called war on terror were real there would be no bottles allowed on planes. The fact that I can buy a bottle, especially of ice wine, tells me that it is all crap to scare us into one world government.

- paddy, vancouver canada, 30/10/2010 2:50

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Forgive me for thinking all this somewhat strange. A day or so ago, UK airports were planning to NOT kowtow to the US and their security demands by relaxing some security measures in the UK - funny how a day later, the US states "explosives found on plane". Who can we believe? certainly not Obama and the Americans.

- Max, Vancouver, Canada, 29/10/2010 22:50

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How could explosives get on a plaine when your not even allowed to take on a bottle of water these days ? Why would terrorists make things so much harder for themselves by targeting planes when there must be millions of easier ways to cause trouble .

- MJS, Sheffield, 29/10/2010 18:01

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Whats going on with the yob who kicked the old man in the head????????

- john yates, essex, 29/10/2010 18:01

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Why does a UK citizen have to attack the "average American"? Why would you make a comment about American intelligence when we are your only real friends in the world? I know it has not always been a bed or roses between our countries; but who can each of us depend upon if not each other? It's that kind of mindless in-fighting that would thrill the wretches that want to kill us both. Save your vitriol for the French, at least they deserve it.

- Benton, Atlanta, USA, 29/10/2010 19:50

You have to make allowances for the fact we had a bunch of socialist traitors in government for the last 13 years.

- Keith, Llanelli, 30/10/2010 2:47
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In the same week as the BA head honcho says that US security is over the top this happens....what a coincidence!

- Robb Flynn, Jersey City, NJ, 29/10/2010

These were my thoughts too. Something doesn't smell quite right.

- shirley, Horsham, 29/10/2010 18:50

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dont believe a word of it..something fishy about these scaremongering reports...somebody is hyping things up to justify something...

- dezi, cambs, 29/10/2010 18:54

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So you'd be happy to get on a plane with no security checks I assume as there are no such thing as terrosirsts in your world are there Jay?
- FedUpUK, England, 29/10/2010 19:49

Dear FedUpUk, I think you will find that Jay is quite certain terrorists exist in his world, but is equally sure that these "terrorists" are the secret services of western countries, either infiltratien would be terrorists groups, paying them or just planting this kind of "evidence" to scare all of us into submission. Get onto the internet and start getting more information for yourself.

- Lin, Velsen, 30/10/2010 10:29
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Just watch the story fade away. This is instigated by the Americans ( they have the same scare there ) their ' intelligence ( laugh out loud ) has told the UK. All false flags to get the US public and us scared. This is meant to distract us all from the impending depression and dollar collapse. Well it wont work Obama , because we are a little brighter than the average American.


New world order, coming to you soon.

- jay, berks, 29/10/2010 17:37

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Andy, Lincs. You are a classic example of a human being, who in a previous life, would have been a Turkey looking forward to Christmas. Doesn't the coincidence of these "Bombs" being found after the calls for security relaxation, not ring any warning bells in your head? Fortunately there are a lot of commenters on here who can see through the smoke and mirrors.

- Witchfinder General, South Benfleet, Essex, 30/10/2010 9:42

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Amazing how this happens immediately after calls to relax check in restrictions

- honeybunny, Cheshire, 29/10/2010 18:37

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How timely when the aviation authority wants a relaxation of security checks. America is a target of more bombs - coincidental or what!!!!!!
- cb, uk, 30/10/2010 9:38

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oh yes, obviously it's been to quiet by far and now Obama wants to push through some new legislation, detract from his own falling popularity ratings.....

Anyone else detect that this is just too much of a coincidence?

- Steve, Dortmund, Germany, 29/10/2010 22:55

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Anything to keep the sheeple living in fear, lest they forget about the non-existent enemy they must always live in fear of and risk destabilising the global police state which the New World Order want us to live in.

This is MIND CONTROL.

- Andy, Leeds, 29/10/2010 18:20

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John from Luton if you want to ignore the USA goverments warnings on possible terrorist plots in the UK by all means do so. It's always a conspiracy with people like you. Blame everyone except the terrorists. We have people over here who think the same way. They are called liberals.
- sapphire_407, venice florida, 29/10/2010 17:57

The point I would make is that paying so much attention to the terrorists (or as I would prefer they were called 'criminals') is actually providing them with more ammunition. It keeps them in the public eye, makes people scared of them and provides them with a means to reach their goal.

If instead everyone ignores them entirely, and deals with these incidents with emotional detachment then they will eventually realise that they are failing entirely with what they wish to do.

The other point is, it is not possible for any government, police agency or anyone else to protect everyone from everything all of the time. To think that is simply foolish.

- Tony, Minehead, UK, 29/10/2010 20:25

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it must be the man in the cave again with the chronic illness....MY GOD PEOPLE...ITS ALL A BLUFF TO KEEP YOU SCARED....WAKE UP FOOLS.....FOR ALL YOU 9 11 BELIEVERS....2 WORDS........BUILDING SEVEN

- joseph prescott, liverpool, 29/10/2010 22:38

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This has Osama bin Laden written all over it.
Until we get a One World Government and a fully micro-chipped population we will always be at risk.
Thank Heaven for the brave, honest , ever-alert US and UK authorities.

N.B. ( for the 95% )
This is sarcasm.

- Pat Rattigan, Chesterfield England, 30/10/2010 9:24

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More false flag shenanigans. I for one don't believe any of this nonsense anymore. It's good to see that more and more people are seeing through these staged events.

- Ricky, London, 29/10/2010 19:54

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Interesting that when, at the beginning of the week the BA Chairman says that there are too many screening systems, most demanded by the US, and the US begins to bleat that suddenly suspect packages are found on an American UPS parcel service flight from Yemen, via Europe and UK, to the US. Sounds just a little too co-incidental so, who planted these devices that are suspect?

- Ken, East Anglia, England, 30/10/2010 9:10

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@ Benton Atlanta, who posted "Save your vitriol for the French, at least they deserve it".

Quite how the French deserve criticism, I don't know.

They refused to be bamboozled into an illegal war, banned the burka and regularly stand up to their Govt.......... If anything, both the Brits and the Americans could do with a bit more of the same attitude!

- Johnny Johnson, Middle of nowhere., 30/10/2010 9:02

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[email protected] Andy, Lincs,
Sadly, many in Britain lack the intelligence to understand who our real allies are in the world and get their perverted kicks from bashing all things American. I would much rather count the USA as our ally
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And with friends like that who needs enemies eh Andy...........................

- Art, Philippines, 30/10/2010 10:30

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So there is talk of removing the pointles searches at airports, and now there is an alert, smells of A merican scam to me..

- undo Alt, Edinburgh, Scotland, 29/10/2010 18:37

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How very convenient following so soon after a call to reduce insulting security checks at our airports.
- AverageMan, ConDemNation, 29/10/2010 19:54

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erm that top picture is not a toner pcb but a mobile phone pcb, the main logic board and it wouldn't set of a bomb like that, its a joke,

- paul, essex, 30/10/2010
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You have to wonder who the airports are employing airside????? Have seen many of them both here and in the UK just waltz right on through with their bags!!!

- Karen, ex pat USA, 29/10/2010 19:18

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Coincidently this was discovered just days before Obamas midterm election fate is delivered.Also just after airline boss of BA critisises security at airports .

- pejayb54, Oslo Norway, 30/10/2010 10:19

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Bravo no one is believing the bull anymore. The war on terror is a hoax and a bad joke. We all know who really did 911 and we are sick of the lies.
- Matt Compton, Phornix Arizona USA, 30/10/2010 8:10

Dont read into the red arrows thing too much.

A lot of the UK rely on the press and the BBC for their news, and believe everything that is shovelled down their throats. But not all, I am with you my friend.

- Les, Thailand, 30/10/2010 8:53

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Do they truly think we're all daft? We DO know Obama has mid-term elections coming up, and there's nothing like keeping the populace scared (an easy thing to do in the US) to divert their attention from the pig's ear you're making of your term. After all, it worked for Dubya.

- N.Cockburn, Falkirk, UK, 30/10/2010 8:53

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Why does a UK citizen have to attack the "average American"? Why would you make a comment about American intelligence when we are your only real friends in the world? I know it has not always been a bed or roses between our countries; but who can each of us depend upon if not each other? It's that kind of mindless in-fighting that would thrill the wretches that want to kill us both. Save your vitriol for the French, at least they deserve it.

- Benton, Atlanta, USA, 29/10/2010 19:50

Sadly, many in Britain lack the intelligence to understand who our real allies are in the world and get their perverted kicks from bashing all things American. I would much rather count the USA as our ally, than any tin-pot regime. Plus, you are, after all, related to us!

- Andy, Lincs, 30/10/2010 9:10

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These people here are so scared of everything, total emotional wrecks, need drugs to get them through life. An easy target for a take over.

- Karen, ex pat USA, 29/10/2010 19:17

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This is a none story aimed at keeping the sheep afraid. Stinks of propaganda.
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- Richard, Manchester, 29/10/2010 20:05
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More propaganda to keep the sheeple in "terror" mode!
Bottom line = lies, lies and more lies!

- eddie, somewhere, 30/10/2010 9:14
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The second picture down is the circuit board from a mobile phone. You can see where the screen and even the camera lens are..

- M.R, Up North, 30/10/2010 9:40
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But, is it a credable threat? Not trying to be cynical here, but isn't it the mid term elections in the USA next week?

Whenever Bush was in trouble, he upped the Terror Threat. Nothing like every newspaper headline and News bulletin saying "America Under Attack" to take the voting publics mind off just how Badly you are doing....

This isn't the first time we've seen this and it's always at a stage where someone needs your votes!

- James, Glasgow, 29/10/2010 22:37
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whenever someone suggests lowering a security level this seems to happen. The presidents ratings are falling lets make a distraction. Same in politics all over, anyone notice the very large hike in travel tax? No you cant see it for the mirrors
- susan, uk, 30/10/2010 03

It certainly does seem to be an incredible coincidence that this should suddenly happen at the same time as airlines are complaining about excessive security checks, travellers tax hikes and around the same time as Obama needs a poll boost. I am not normally a conspiracy theorist, but the timing couldn't be better for certain people.

- Iain Macdonald, Glasgow, Scotland, 30/10/2010 8:48

 
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=13712

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324948/Al-Qaeda-ink-cartridge-bomb-jet-linked-mobile-phone-SIM-card.html#ixzz13raDEmyB

PDF of UPS locations:

http://www.ups.com/aircargo/using/services/airports/internationalAirports.pdf
 
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: citizenx on November 01, 2010, 06:55:09 am
Yemen official: Arrested woman didn't mail bombs, is released on bail

KIMBERLY DOZIER
 
Associated Press
 
October 31, 2010|12:51 p.m.
ap-mail-bombs-suspect-released



WASHINGTON (AP) — The young Yemeni woman arrested on suspicion of mailing powerful bombs to U.S. synagogues was released on bail Sunday, and a Yemeni official said authorities no longer believe she shipped the bombs.

Authorities arrested the woman after tracking the name and address used on the packages. But after the woman was arrested, the shipping agent said she wasn't the one who signed the shipping documents, the official said.

The release means investigators no longer have any suspects in custody in a suspected al-Qaida plot that authorities believe was intended to take down cargo jetliners.

continued:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-mail-bombs-suspect-released,0,3143705.story

Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: agentbluescreen on November 01, 2010, 07:15:49 am
Yemen official: Arrested woman didn't mail bombs, is released on bail

KIMBERLY DOZIER
 
Associated Press
 
October 31, 2010|12:51 p.m.
ap-mail-bombs-suspect-released



WASHINGTON (AP) — The young Yemeni woman arrested on suspicion of mailing powerful bombs to U.S. synagogues was released on bail Sunday, and a Yemeni official said authorities no longer believe she shipped the bombs.

Authorities arrested the woman after tracking the name and address used on the packages. But after the woman was arrested, the shipping agent said she wasn't the one who signed the shipping documents, the official said.

The release means investigators no longer have any suspects in custody in a suspected al-Qaida plot that authorities believe was intended to take down cargo jetliners.

continued:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-mail-bombs-suspect-released,0,3143705.story

Yeah, when they checked her place of residence on her drivers licence, her return shipper's Customs Declaration address was confirmed to be nowhere near Langley VA
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: citizenx on November 01, 2010, 07:24:30 am
Well, that is where they should start looking for the culprits -- of the hoax.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: agentbluescreen on November 01, 2010, 08:06:30 am
Well, that is where they should start looking for the culprits -- of the hoax.

Yeah like the "all-seeing" Saudi bin Ladins just "happen" to have 'detected' an outright US electioneering fraud - what a crock.

What an amazingly unpredictable and suddenly convenient al CIAduh "coincidence". Just when you think this tired old war "against" implacable towel headed Saudi-monarchist theocratic Sunni boogie-men is all over...
Title: Re: Can anyone identify the planes containing suspicious packages from yemen?
Post by: EchelonMonitor on November 01, 2010, 08:18:11 am
UAE Rejects US claims on Flight 201:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/148857.html



So, is this the real reason for the demonization of Yemen yet again? So we can invade their country like we do everywhere else and make Obama appear strong pre-election? Disgusting! Throw all of the bums out in DC.

Actually Yemen is a Pentagon client state, receiving $140 Billion per year--they'll do whatever they're ordered to do, including allowing the US to carry out fake terrorist attacks from its soil to further the tyranny and wars-for-profit agenda.