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Title: Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Post by: Optimus on June 24, 2010, 09:09:07 pm
House Passes DISCLOSE Act: Pro-Life/Grassroots Muzzle Bill Goes to Senate
Critics on both the left and the right say the act will disable grassroots political voices, including Tea Party movement

By Peter J. Smith

WASHINGTON, D.C., June 24, 2010 ( – With a political audacity that has become characteristic since the caustic health care debates, the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives voted Thursday to approve a campaign finance disclosure bill that critics on both the left and the right say will disable grassroots political voices – including the nascent “Tea Party” movement that has been looking to sweep away liberal incumbents in November.

At approximately 4:30 p.m., the House voted 219-206 to approve H.R. 5175, the “Democracy is Strengthened by Casting Light on Spending in Elections (DISCLOSE) Act,” which the National Right to Life Committee, other pro-life, pro-family groups, and even the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) have condemned as a threat to free speech and free participation in the political process. (See how your representative voted here.)

The Act would force grassroots organizations to release the names of donors and members into a publicly searchable database maintained by the Federal Elections Commission (FEC). Opponents of the bill say it would frustrate the ability of grassroots entities to communicate effectively with the public about public policy.

“This is a blatant attack on our organizations, members, and donors,” said Douglas Johnson, NRLC’s Legislative Director. “National Right to Life will do everything possible to keep this bill from coming out of the Senate.”

Johnson said that stopping the Senate from approving its version (S 3295) of the DISCLOSE Act is “a jump ball.”

“I think we have to take it very seriously. There are already 50 cosponsors of the bill in the Senate. But as you know, the Senate has different rules, and we will certainly do our best to persuade any Senator who will listen that this bill is unconstitutional, unprincipled, and nakedly partisan.”

Should the Senate approve the DISCLOSE Act, and should it be signed into law by President Barack Obama, the act would take effect in 30 days, even if the Federal Elections Commission has not yet crafted new guidelines – just in time for the mid-term elections in November.

During the one-hour debate on the bill, Rep. Dan Lungren expressed outrage that unlike every other campaign finance bill passed by the House, this bill has no provision for expedited judicial review. He said the lack of such a provision makes it clear the DISCLOSE Act is meant to influence the outcome of the 2010 midterm elections.

He also expressed frustration that so little time was given the House to debate a matter impacting Americans’ First Amendment rights.

“We have spent 40 hours in this Congress naming post offices. Can’t we spend a little time protecting the Constitution of the United States?” Lungren exclaimed.

“We’re talking about political speech: the essence of the First Amendment.”

Under the bill, all groups subject to the law’s requirements - including most 501(c)4, 501(c)5, 501(c)6, and 527 groups – would have to list all donors of $600 or more with the Federal Election Commission (FEC). Groups must also post a hyperlink on their website to the FEC, where a list of the names of their donors can be accessed.

But the DISCLOSE Act exempts large 501(c)4 groups – like the 4 million strong NRA and 750,000 member Sierra Club – from having to report their donors if they have at least 500,000 members, over 10 years of existence, chapters in all 50 states, and receive no more than 15% of total contributions from corporations.

Unions also have significant exemptions. Most union dues are under $600 dollars, and so do not have to be reported. Union to union money transfers also do not have to be disclosed.

In a letter to Congress, the ACLU noted the irony that a bill ostensibly dedicated to uprooting corruption in the political process would exempt entrenched “mainstream” political interests from its reporting requirements, while “smaller organizations and those just starting out would have to disclose their donors in order to engage in political speech.”

“Those groups not challenging the status quo would be protected; those challenging the status quo would be suppressed,” they concluded.

House members had virtually no time to read the final version of the bill approved yesterday behind closed doors by the House Rules Committee. Instead of waiting for Congressmen and their staff to analyze the final bill, the Democrat leadership forced through today’s vote today by invoking a “Martial Law Rule.”

The Martial Law Rule dispenses with a longstanding House rule (Rule XIII(6)(a)) intended to give U.S. Representatives and the public enough time to understand significant legislation. The rule requires that there be at least one day between a bill’s unveiling and the House floor vote, and can only be suspended if two-thirds of the House agrees – but the Martial Law Rule dispenses with that process entirely.

Critics on both the left and the right have denounced the tactic, saying it empowers a party’s leadership to act in an authoritarian manner and endangers democratic self-government by forcing members to vote blindly on measures demanded by their leaders.

The bill requires that every time an organization runs a campaign ad, its CEO must appear in the ad and twice state his name and the organization’s name. The top five funders of the organization behind the ad – even if they had nothing to do with the ad’s funding – must also have their names listed in the ad.

In addition, the most “significant” donor to the organization must list his name, rank, and organization three times in the ad.

Critics of the bill say that the disclaimers effectively devour valuable airtime bought by these groups that would otherwise be used to inform voters about a candidate’s record.

“We’re getting a little silly here. We’re talking about making disclaimers that are going to take the entire time of a commercial,” stated Rep. Lungren during debate.

He also expressed grave concern that individuals – with names and addresses publicly available – would be subject to reprisals for making a political statement. He pointed to the situation in California, where supporters of Proposition 8 have been victims of reprisals by homosexualist activists.

“We are chilling speech already, and now we are getting into direct intimidation by requiring the residence of people living there,” he said.

Other affected entities under the bill will likely include vocal liberal and conservative groups that communicate through the internet. While traditional media organizations like newspapers and television stations are exempt from the bill, bloggers, the vanguard of the “new media,” are not.

How representatives voted - click here (

Contact information for the U.S. House of Representatives - click here (

Contact information for the U.S. Senate - click here (

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Title: Re: House Invokes "Martial Law Rule" and Passes DISCLOSE ACT
Post by: donnay on June 24, 2010, 09:13:43 pm
Civil disobedience is in order.  >:(
Title: Re: House Invokes "Martial Law Rule" and Passes DISCLOSE ACT
Post by: changedname on June 24, 2010, 09:27:03 pm
Now more than ever we see the need to oust the incumbants in this years election!  Power of the vote to the people!  ;D
Title: Re: Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Post by: Optimus on June 25, 2010, 09:26:19 am
Campaign For Liberty... Disclose Act Passes Congress, Contact Your Senators

Dear Friend of Liberty,

Earlier today, the House of Representatives shredded the First Amendment by voting 219-206 to pass H.R. 5175, the DISCLOSE Act.

View the roll call here.

As hard as it is to believe, they made the bill (which should really be called the Establishment Protection Act) even worse in the hours leading up to the vote by including more provisions to benefit their Big Labor pals and to obtain further details on those opposed to their powergrabs.

Thanks to the actions of Campaign for Liberty members and other freedom-minded activists across the country, the vote on H.R. 5175 came down to the wire and was much closer than expected. Your pressure reminded them that we are serious about holding our elected officials accountable for their actions.

Matter of fact, your calls made such an impact that Campaign for Liberty was even mentioned on the House floor during the debate!

This vote is by no means the end of the fight, and the battle to protect Americans’ right to free speech and to keep the federal government from gathering even more information about us now moves on to the Senate, where the bill faces many challenges.

There are several steps you can take to ensure the Establishment Protection Act is decisively defeated in the Senate.

First, contact your senators right away and make sure they know we have not given up on this critical issue. Click here to find their contact information and urge them to oppose H.R. 5175 and all other attempts to curb free speech.

Next, call the NRA headquarters at 1-800-672-3888 and their Legislative Action group at 1-800-392-8683 and tell them to drop their compromise and actively oppose H.R. 5175.

Without their special deal with House leaders, DISCLOSE may have been stopped in its tracks before ever reaching the House floor in the first place.

Finally, please forward this email to your family, friends, neighbors, and coworkers so we can spread the message about the threat posed by the Establishment Protection Act.

Campaign for Liberty has enjoyed more success than the statists ever imagined possible, and they would love nothing more than to shut us down by going after our donors.

Let’s show them that the Freedom movement will never back down.

In Liberty,

John Tate

Title: Re: Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Post by: Optimus on June 25, 2010, 03:30:38 pm
House Narrowly Passes Gag Order (DISCLOSE) Act
-- Now it's time to barrage the Senate

"Now the NRA are the big defenders of the Second Amendment of the Constitution, the right to bear arms.  But yet they think it's all right to throw everybody else under the table so they can get a special deal, while requiring everyone else to comply with all the rules outlined in this bill, and frankly, I think it's disappointing." -- House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), June 24, 2010

Friday, June 25, 2010

Well, if there were any doubt as to what greased the skids for the DISCLOSE Act's final passage... the quote above hits the nail on the head. 

Speaking on the House floor, Rep. Boehner blasted the horse-trading that occurred behind the scenes -- noting that certain groups were made exempt from the legislation in order to convince them to drop their opposition to H.R. 5175.

Republican Dan Lungren of California called it an "auction behind closed doors."  Some groups won, Lungren said, others lost.

Rep. Gregg Harper (R-MS) vilified the bill because of its ambiguity.  He said that since the Federal Election Commission won't issue regulations to implement the bill before the election, people will have to guess at what the new election law is.  That's because the government won’t be able to tell people what the law actually is... and if you guess wrong, you go to jail or get prosecuted. 

Harper tagged liberals for trying to rush this bill (with all of its ambiguities) for immediate implementation so that Democrats can gag their opponents in the upcoming election.  Why else, Harper asked, won't Pelosi and company delay the implementation of the bill until the 2012 elections?

Another irony with the whole process surrounding this legislation is that while the bill is called the DISCLOSE Act, liberal Democrats did not reveal (until a couple of hours before the Rules Committee Vote) that an amendment had been inserted at the last minute to exempt labor unions from the requirements of the bill.  By the way, many of these requirements would make it much more difficult for GOA to hold legislators accountable during an election year.

The DISCLOSE Act (H.R. 5175) passed narrowly by a 219-206 vote.  You can see how your Representative voted by going to:

GOA thanks all its activists for their hard work on this bill.  Don't be discouraged, it is MUCH harder for us to kill legislation in that chamber.  The fact that we came so close -- only 7 votes needed to switch -- means that we probably have the muscle to kill this in the Senate!

ACTION:  Please urge your Senator to oppose the Disclose Act (H.R. 5175 and S. 3295).  You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center ( to send your Senators the pre-written e-mail message below.
----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

I stand with Gun Owners of America in opposing the DISCLOSE Act (H.R. 5175 and S. 3295).

It is outrageous that the House of Representatives passed this legislation with a deal to exempt certain large organizations from the terms of the DISCLOSE Act.  This smacks of the money-for-votes fiasco which helped grease the skids for passage of ObamaCare and which has already lowered Congress' reputation to unprecedented depths.

I was glad to see that Senator Mitch McConnell blasted this deal, which was especially aimed at carving out special exemptions for the NRA leadership in exchange for their promise to sit on their hands and not oppose the DISCLOSE Act.  "If there is one thing Americans loathe about Washington, it's the backroom dealing to win the vote of organizations with power and influence at the expense of everyone else," McConnell said.

"Just as it wasn't the Democrats' money to offer in the health care debate, free speech isn't theirs to ration out to those willing to play ball -- it's a right guaranteed by our First Amendment to all Americans."

I agree wholeheartedly.  Please do NOT vote in favor of this legislation, as it will have a chilling effect upon our free speech rights by forcing the organizations we associate with to disclose their membership lists. 

How ironic that a Congress and President who treat transparency with contempt should now be trying to force legal organizations to disclose the names of their law-abiding members.  The hypocrisy is blatant, to say the least.

Vote no on H.R. 5175 or S. 3295.

Title: Re: Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Post by: TheProxy on June 26, 2010, 02:22:11 am
thats okay, when time comes, i'll do my talking behind a .45 if need be. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" "Martial Law Rule" is illegal.
Title: Re: Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Post by: Georgiacopguy on June 26, 2010, 08:49:04 am
I think the big picture is being missed here; THIS BOARD IS A GRASSROOTS ORGAIZATION PEOPLE!!!!!!!! They now have carte blanche to get everything from the server farm relating to this, or ANY opposing website or service!!!
Title: Re: House Invokes "Martial Law Rule" and Passes DISCLOSE ACT
Post by: uswgo on June 29, 2010, 10:48:02 pm
Civil disobedience is in order.  >:(

yeah I won't shut up because the law told me to because that doesn't keep peace, law, or even order. To keep peace, law and order peaceful protests and free speech must be allowed.
Title: Re: Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Post by: adissenter2 on June 29, 2010, 11:29:51 pm
data mining jackpot
Title: Re: Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Post by: Highland on June 30, 2010, 07:36:54 am

 The tea party is a ridiculously republican high jacked deal. Tea parters may as well be voting for republicans to feed them drugs that will  grow mutated tits on males because the republican speakers work for and are invested in the pharma medical industry and corporations, not the individual.

 Republicans have no intention of doing anything like an early American male. They wont vote for a solidly backed currency, stop the unwanted social enginering on the other side of the world, get rid of the public education system, stop giving over their governing authority to world groups, stop shipping out the jobs, protect the US border etc.

 Better get real and spend the two or three minutes that it takes to vote for the constitution party and say ya Im the one who did that or you can just continue to support a deal that poisons you and makes you grow mutated tits.
Title: Re: Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Post by: Jackson Holly on June 30, 2010, 08:56:31 am

The entrenched b*stards see a clean sweep coming and are fighting back.