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Title: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Nailer on April 20, 2010, 08:28:35 am
OMG !! the video has been closely watched and shown that people were alive after the crash and were shot.   I  pray for their souls to be avenged.

You must watch the video as it has even been translated. watch it before it gets pulled. It shows what is said to be the pilot still alive .


KATASTROFA SAMOLOTU SMOLENSK PIERWSZE NAGRANIE NAPISY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Nailer on April 20, 2010, 08:46:35 am
These are unexplained and unanswered peoples observations.



First notice:

You can notice 3 unidentified , walk between trees (circled in red)
Again in slow motion and larger size

Are they official rescuers?



Here you can see them walk by. (00:40 sec)
Again in slow motion and larger view.

Maybe they are just dupes – I don’t know.



(00:52 sec) voice – calm down

(1.09) look carefully at this figure

Have you notice a white figure putting his hand up
Watch in slow motion once again


1:26 – some say it’s the pilot – I don’t know myself

Shouts

In Russian Dawajcie Gnata – I think it means – take the guns or give us your guns I don’t know must check with Russian speakers

1:38- Don’t kill us

Shots

1:49 here you can notice a black figure jumping off the planes part
See in slow motion


2:06 gun shot

2:08 some laughs

2:11 the same figure that jumped off the planes part
2: 17 watch it fall

2.20 change of plans

Gun shot

NOTICE the figure !!!

2:28 Figure fell watch it again


As if hurt in the stomach

Very intresting video.
Title: Man that filmed gunshots at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED
Post by: N.E.P. on April 20, 2010, 08:47:05 am
 :o
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1043379/pg1
Title: Re: Man that filmed gunshots at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED
Post by: Nailer on April 20, 2010, 08:48:47 am


These are unexplained and unanswered peoples observations.



First notice:

You can notice 3 unidentified , walk between trees (circled in red)
Again in slow motion and larger size

Are they official rescuers?



Here you can see them walk by. (00:40 sec)
Again in slow motion and larger view.

Maybe they are just dupes – I don’t know.



(00:52 sec) voice – calm down

(1.09) look carefully at this figure

Have you notice a white figure putting his hand up
Watch in slow motion once again


1:26 – some say it’s the pilot – I don’t know myself

Shouts

In Russian Dawajcie Gnata – I think it means – take the guns or give us your guns I don’t know must check with Russian speakers

1:38- Don’t kill us

Shots

1:49 here you can notice a black figure jumping off the planes part
See in slow motion


2:06 gun shot

2:08 some laughs

2:11 the same figure that jumped off the planes part
2: 17 watch it fall

2.20 change of plans

Gun shot

NOTICE the figure !!!

2:28 Figure fell watch it again


As if hurt in the stomach

Very intresting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Xill on April 20, 2010, 08:52:19 am
OMG !! the video has been closely watched and shown that people were alive after the crash and were shot.   I  pray for their souls to be avenged.

You must watch the video as it has even been translated. watch it before it gets pulled. It shows what is said to be the pilot still alive .


KATASTROFA SAMOLOTU SMOLENSK PIERWSZE NAGRANIE NAPISY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM&feature=player_embedded

Most of the translation is wrong, also the people walking at the beginning are probably from the Army or secret police, not survivors.

However you can see the guy get shot and fall at the end. Strange thing, I had seen it the first time I watched it, then figured out it must have been an optical illusion because I couldn't see it again, but now I know it's real.

Incredible proof; We need some professional video enhancing on the 480p version.

They killed them, just as my guts feeling told me.
Title: Re: Man that filmed gunshots at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS MURDERED!!!!!!!!
Post by: N.E.P. on April 20, 2010, 09:03:43 am
Murdered
Title: Re: Man that filmed gunshots at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED
Post by: Xill on April 20, 2010, 09:03:57 am
This really deserve the statement "Holy Crap!"

A "coincidence".... YEAH RIGHT, And I've got a giant flying turtle to sell.

Sticky this thread?
Title: Re: Man that filmed gunshots at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED
Post by: N.E.P. on April 20, 2010, 09:05:57 am
This really deserve the statement "Holy Crap!"

A "coincidence".... YEAH RIGHT, And I've got a giant flying turtle to sell.

I agree...Mods please change the title to something more eye catching.
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: lee51 on April 20, 2010, 09:08:02 am
Don't know if it is true or not since I don't speak Polish or Russian but it is claimed over on godlikeproductions that the owner of this video was just killed.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1043379/pg1
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Nailer on April 20, 2010, 09:10:34 am
Most of the translation is wrong, also the people walking at the beginning are probably from the Army or secret police, not survivors.

However you can see the guy get shot and fall at the end. Strange thing, I had seen it the first time I watched it, then figured out it must have been an optical illusion because I couldn't see it again, but now I know it's real.

Incredible proof; We need some professional video enhancing on the 480p version.

They killed them, just as my guts feeling told me.

http://fakty.interia.pl/raport/lech-kaczynski-nie-zyje/news/dwie-czarne-skrzynki-juz-rozszyfrowane/komentarze,1467054,1,29891999,3,3

TRANSLATION :

" Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow. On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was prenounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence. "
Title: Re: Man that filmed gunshots at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED
Post by: Xill on April 20, 2010, 09:17:05 am
I remember going to this forum:
http://www.polishforums.com/

And explaining to the Polish people that it was not a coincidences that their most important leaders where killed in the same flight, that the data didn't add up. They laugh at me, they called me a "conspiracy theorist".
Then the video came out; they said it was fake, laughed again.
When proven legit they said it was "not real gun shots" but the guns on the people burning in the plane "going off" or engine explosion sounds. "Conspiracy theorist paranoia".

Now they are saying that all the people moving are "optical illusions"...

Finally, the guy that filmed this video was stabbed 6 times. They do not even talk about it anymore. They,ve already moved on and got back to work as nice little slaves. Bunch of brainwashed stupid sheeps.

WTF are the Polish people this naive??!?!?!!!
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Damascus on April 20, 2010, 09:18:00 am
Nothing says "ruthless efficiency" like Russian Mafia enforcement.  :-*
Title: Re: Man that filmed gunshots at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED
Post by: agentbluescreen on April 20, 2010, 09:22:35 am
I remember going to this forum:
http://www.polishforums.com/

And explaining to the Polish people that it was not a coincidences that their most important leaders where killed in the same flight, that the data didn't add up. They laugh at me, they called me a "conspiracy theorist".
Then the video came out; they said it was fake, laughed again.
When proven legit they said it was "not real gun shots" but the guns on the people burning in the plane "going off" or engine explosion sounds. "Conspiracy theorist paranoia".

Now they are saying that all the people moving are "optical illusions"...

Finally, the guy that filmed this video was stabbed 6 times. They do not even talk about it anymore. They,ve already moved on and got back to work as nice little slaves. Bunch of brainwashed stupid sheeps.

WTF are the Polish people this naive??!?!?!!!

Both Hitler, Churchill and Stalin have already proven that...

"Good Constantinian bible-slaves" always obey their masters.
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Xill on April 20, 2010, 09:22:54 am
http://fakty.interia.pl/raport/lech-kaczynski-nie-zyje/news/dwie-czarne-skrzynki-juz-rozszyfrowane/komentarze,1467054,1,29891999,3,3

TRANSLATION :

" Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow. On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was prenounced dead that afternoon.
Russian government claims it was a coincidence. "



Bumping with bold highlight... Stuff like this gives me shivers.
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Nailer on April 20, 2010, 10:01:52 am
crash site photos.

http://polskaweb.eu/news-galerie/307.html#category

http://polskaweb.eu/news-galerie/309.html#category

http://polskaweb.eu/news-galerie/310.html#category


I noticed something that makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE

the yellow lights look like landing lights to guide incoming aircraft right?

these are NOT AT ALL permanent wiring installations at all

Now this is a military airfield right?

 CONSPIRACY IS THIS

These lights were temporarily installed to guide the aircraft into the woods on purposed in poor lighting conditions

They are caught in the photos either removing lightbulbs or replacing them

example photo

Unfall oder Attentat ?_4594 and there are others
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Xill on April 20, 2010, 10:23:40 am
crash site photos.

http://polskaweb.eu/news-galerie/307.html#category

http://polskaweb.eu/news-galerie/309.html#category

http://polskaweb.eu/news-galerie/310.html#category


I noticed something that makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE

the yellow lights look like landing lights to guide incoming aircraft right?

these are NOT AT ALL permanent wiring installations at all

Now this is a military airfield right?

 CONSPIRACY IS THIS

These lights were temporarily installed to guide the aircraft into the woods on purposed in poor lighting conditions

They are caught in the photos either removing lightbulbs or replacing them

example photo

Unfall oder Attentat ?_4594 and there are others


Very interesting.
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: LightCaster on April 20, 2010, 02:22:00 pm
http://fakty.interia.pl/raport/lech-kaczynski-nie-zyje/news/dwie-czarne-skrzynki-juz-rozszyfrowane/komentarze,1467054,1,29891999,3,3

TRANSLATION :

" Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow. On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was prenounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence. "


Due the translation for the other posts there. You will see that other posters don't believe it, cuz the guy who posted it didn't link it to any source.

http://fakty.interia.pl/raport/lech-kaczynski-nie-zyje/news/dwie-czarne-skrzynki-juz-rozszyfrowane/komentarze,1467054,1,29891999,3,3

Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Dig on April 20, 2010, 02:36:00 pm
Due the translation for the other posts there. You will see that other posters don't believe it, cuz the guy who posted it didn't link it to any source.

http://fakty.interia.pl/raport/lech-kaczynski-nie-zyje/news/dwie-czarne-skrzynki-juz-rozszyfrowane/komentarze,1467054,1,29891999,3,3



please keep researching, looks fishy, appreciate the follow up
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: LightCaster on April 20, 2010, 04:40:18 pm
please keep researching, looks fishy, appreciate the follow up

I just finished with the research. No any source to it. I was on Croatian, Polish, Slovenian, Serbian, Russian and Macedonian forums, trying to find out any info about it. No news reports, police reports, hospital reports, nothing. Guy (paulo) obviously made it up.

Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Dig on April 20, 2010, 05:47:41 pm
I just finished with the research. No any source to it. I was on Croatian, Polish, Slovenian, Serbian, Russian and Macedonian forums, trying to find out any info about it. No news reports, police reports, hospital reports, nothing. Guy (paulo) obviously made it up.



thanks for doing that!
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: N.E.P. on April 20, 2010, 06:19:31 pm
Muddying the waters so any credible info that comes out will be dismissed...predictable. I noticed a lot of disinfo on the video comments as well. Total crazy bullsh*t like"the sirens is fake!!(bad English intentional) "I have original video and there was no siren!!", when I ask for evidence the person doesn't respond.

I remember when Alex said that the Georgian invasion was instigated by Israel/US he got hate mail from Georgia(the country)...I got a few insanely angry messages also from Russia haters because i was deleting comments like "Russians are dirty dogs!! they will pay!!" or "Russians will shoot you in the back!!"...I think a few of them were from Georgia..I deleted them and blocked the user...I guess I was a bit of a comment section Nazi  :D




Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Nailer on April 21, 2010, 06:15:24 am
I don't think it is disinfo considering what google search came up with.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Smolensk+%2B+"Mendierej"&cad=h

Results 1 - 10 of about 127 for Smolensk + "Mendierej"
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Xill on April 21, 2010, 06:58:53 am
I don't think it is disinfo considering what google search came up with.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Smolensk+%2B+"Mendierej"&cad=h

Results 1 - 10 of about 127 for Smolensk + "Mendierej"

Yes, someone was very quick to jump on the DisInfo button. Adding an question mark would have been more appropriate.
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: LightCaster on April 21, 2010, 08:50:08 am
Yes, someone was very quick to jump on the DisInfo button. Adding an question mark would have been more appropriate.

Well, if you think that that info about author of the video (stabbed near Kijow) is not disinfo please provide reliable source for it, and not just one fake post bu some guy in Poland.

I was researaching that info for about 2 hours yesterday, no trace of any reliable backup for that story. Nobody is mentioning anything about it. No news reports, witnesses, police records, hospital records, nothing.

About google search.

See this link for yourself.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Smolensk+%2B+%22Mendierej%22&cad=h

 Results 1 - 10 of about 413 for Smolensk + "Mendierej".

Same disinfo that we are talking about here was taken as an "reliable" source on some blogs. They also can't provide any link to back up that fake story.

Truth does not fear investigation.
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: ronaldomoon on April 22, 2010, 02:27:58 am
Truth does not fear investigation.

That is a truly epic statement, my friend. Kudos.  :)
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: Nailer on April 22, 2010, 09:44:24 am
The Polish female reporter talks of missing bodies, conspiracy, fake landing lights being set up , shootings.

POLISH PLANE CRASH TRUTH VIDEO

JaneBurgermeister

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoUkobHYAlk&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: citizenx on April 22, 2010, 11:42:17 pm
That is a truly epic statement, my friend. Kudos.  :)
Amen.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

Herbert Spencer
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: citizenx on April 22, 2010, 11:55:53 pm
Amen.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

Herbert Spencer
Woops, I guess that quote was actually misattributed.  Possibly, William Paley -- paraphrased, but still a wonderful saying, IMO.
Title: Re: DISINFO: Concerning Polish Videographer
Post by: LightCaster on April 23, 2010, 07:40:11 am
Amen.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

Herbert Spencer

“The temptation to form premature theories upon insufficient data is the bane of our profession.”

 Sherlock Holmes