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Title: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 05, 2009, 07:58:28 pm
Since I can't seem to locate the original thread for this issue--let's start another.

Very interesting info--thanks to Menace for researching this.

Insightful comments from readers--Read All 6,611 Comments
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/kdvr/T9GDHHJPQIEN9I5FK

http://www.armleg.com/action4justice/viewtopic.php?t=152&mforum=action4justice

http://www.armleg.com/action4justice/viewtopic.php?t=222&mforum=action4justice

Feed this AXJ-OBAMA PICS into
http://www.ixquick.com/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: centexan on December 05, 2009, 08:19:20 pm
That thread is gone?  There were some good things there.  Oh, man.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 07, 2009, 03:41:46 pm
Donofrio, Pidgeon to Collaborate on Quo Warranto, Chrysler Bankruptcy Appeal

Leo Donofrio can now reveal that he, attorney Stephen Pidgeon, and lead Plaintiff James Anderer will be collaborating on the cases for multiple dealers for a Chrysler Bankruptcy appeal as well as quo warranto

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2009/12/06/source-donofrio-pidgeon-and-quo-warranto-in-dc/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 07, 2009, 03:56:20 pm
That thread is gone?  There were some good things there.  Oh, man.



Yes, it would be a shame to lose all that info. Hopefully it is just a forum data glitch and it will turn up soon.
 :)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 07, 2009, 04:01:55 pm
(http://obamacrimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/E5E0EF15255A49508AB30B5B0A766A3F.jpeg)

Courtesy of Phil Berg at
http://obamacrimes.com/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: centexan on December 07, 2009, 08:37:19 pm
Mods.  Could you please restore the missing Obama Birth Certificate thread?  It was probably the best of its kind on the internet.  It was an INCREDIBLE collection of information on the subject.

My first post on the thread mentioned ArnoldExposed.com (http://ArnoldExposed.com).  That's an Alex Jones site.  Jones seems terrified that an Austrian MIGHT become president, but meanwhile, we have a Kenyan who IS president.

The thread needs to be restored.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 09, 2009, 07:25:38 pm
Okay, when the media shills start saying it's a legitimate question--I REALLY wonder just what team Obama have up their sleeve, perhaps a forged long form will be produced?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=118435

(http://www.wnd.com/images/090821seanhannity.jpg)

BORN IN THE USA?
Sean Hannity: 'Where's the birth certificate?'
Talk-show star defends WND's pursuit of eligibility story

Posted: December 08, 2009
10:49 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily


Sean Hannity

WASHINGTON – Sean Hannity today defended Sarah Palin's recent comments about Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for the presidency and WND's pursuit of the story.

He said the question about his original, long-form birth certificate has still not been answered.

"What was so wrong in saying that, 'Can we see your birth certificate?' ... We were told early on that, in fact, somebody else had looked at it and confirmed that it was legitimate. So, I mean, what was wrong with people saying, 'Wait a minute. You know what? In light of the fact of where your, your father came from, et cetera, uh, let's just make sure that this is a legitimate birth certificate'? ... It was not asked by the mainstream media. It was asked by places like WorldNetDaily, who, I think, were just doing due diligence considering it's a constitutional mandate. ... I think a lot of people were just afraid to ask the question."

Last week, Palin, the former Alaska governor and vice-presidential candidate in 2008, said the public is "rightfully" asking questions about Obama's eligibility.

"Would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?" Palin was asked in an interview on the Rusty Humphries national radio show.

"I think the public rightfully is still making it an issue. I don't have a problem with that. I don't know if I would have to bother to make it an issue, because I think that members of the electorate still want answers," she replied.

Humphries asked: "Do you think it's a fair question to be looking at?"

"I think it's a fair question, just like I think past association and past voting records – all of that is fair game," Palin said. "The McCain-Palin campaign didn't do a good enough job in that area."

Palin said it was legitimate to question Obama's eligibility, referring to "the weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn't my real son – 'You need to produce his birth certificate, you need to prove that he's your kid,' which we have done.

After Humphries' interview, however, Palin posted a message on her Facebook page under the banner "Stupid conspiracies," clarifying that she has not and will not press the issue of the president's eligibility.

"Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I've pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask ... which they have repeatedly," she wrote.

"But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States."

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 15, 2009, 06:57:10 pm
Orly Taitz letter to Eric Holder

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=6839


Donofrio on IPPT v. Chrysler: TARP Still in Play with Dealers.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2009/12/14/donofrio-on-ippt-v-chrysler-tarp-still-in-play-with-dealers/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 15, 2009, 07:23:14 pm
Thinking the Legally "Unthinkable" in the KSM Trial If Khalid Shaikh Mohammed is clever he will turn his trial into an Obama birth certificate circus?

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2009/12/15/thinking-the-legally-unthinkable-in-the-ksm-trial/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 17, 2009, 01:55:52 pm
Jim Anderer explains the Dealers lawsuit against Chrysler and the Federal Government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DopIqKOm4s&feature=player_embedded#

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/further-analysis-of-the-scotus-decision-for-in-re-chrysler-dated-dec-14-2009/


Rep. Rob Wittman (VA-01) ‘Bagged By Birthers

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=5490


Barnett v. Obama Hearing Set For January 4: Not Just Yet, Or Ever

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=5448
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 22, 2009, 08:49:27 am
Monroe County  Update

Canada ‘Free Press’ ‘reports’

As of this update on December 16, 2009, the information “leaked” by Pettway to WVLT appears to be false, as the Monroe County Grand Jury has yet to issue any such findings. In fact, Fitzpatrick states that he has had no further contact of any kind from the court.

Calling it ‘leaked’ information suggest, contrary to the facts, that Pettway disclosed information that should have remained sealed. Of course, that appears to be flawed as the Monroe County Grand Jury historically releases its report on Tuesdays.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/monroe-county-december-17-update/

The Hawaii Department of Health has published a dossier of excuses to rebuff public inquiry into the vital records of Barack Hussein Obama, which the Office of Health Status Monitoring alleges to maintain.


http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/18/hi-department-of-health-publically-rebuffs-inquiries-for-obamas-vital-records/



HI Department of Health refuses OIP’s request

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 26, 2009, 03:52:54 pm
Last night Attorney Leo Donofrio filed an Omnibus Motion to Reconsider in the case RE: in Chrysler LLC et al., in the name of Attorney Stephen Pidgeon and himself, and on behalf of more than 20 Chrysler Dealerships, seeking to recover monetary compensation for the loss of their franchises and contractual rights with Chrysler.

The case involves the disputed bankruptcy proceedings of Chrysler automotive corporation, known formally as Chrysler LLC.  The many cases regarding the dissolution and sale of Chrysler are being heard before the Honorable Robert J. Gonzalez, United States Bankruptcy Judge for the Federal Court, Southern District of New York.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/26/donofrio-pidgeon-file-motion-for-reconsideration-in-chrysler-case/


Orly Taitz motions to move Barnett vs. Obama to D.C. Court

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/25/orly-taitz-motions-to-move-barnett-vs-obama-to-d-c-court/

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/24/british-law-declares-obama-a-british-citizen/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 31, 2009, 02:33:49 am
State GOP Kicks Birther Candidate Out Of Illinois Primary

The Illinois Republican Party disavows the statements made today by Mr. Andrew Martin in his statewide radio advertisements. His statements today are consistent with his history of bizarre behavior and often times hate-filled speech which has no place in the Illinois Republican Party. Mr. Martin will no longer be recognized as a legitimate Republican Candidate by the Illinois Republican Party

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=5618

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 31, 2009, 02:55:40 am
Carter alters Oct. 29th ruling, ex post facto

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/16/carter-alters-oct-29th-%0D%0Aruling-ex-post-facto/


Citizens prepare to take legal action against HI Department of Health

As the nation lurches into the unconstitutional law of Health Care Reform, under the tutelage of a man who won’t even disclose his birth certificate, citizens outraged at the denial of their civil rights to obtain information from the Hawaii Department of Health, in accord with Hawaii Laws, have decided to prepare to take legal action against the Hawaii Department of Health.  As part of this preparation, The Post & Email has established a legal fund, and asks American citizens of good-will, everyone, to consider

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/24/citizens-prepare-to-take-legal-action-against-hi-department-of-health/

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/26/petition/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 07, 2010, 08:57:23 am
Congressman Deal Challenges Obama’s Eligibility

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/05/deal-challenges-obamas-eligibility/#c

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/01/05/rep-deal-reported-to-have-formally-requested-obamas-birth-certificate/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 11, 2010, 01:33:20 pm
WH Confirms Rep. Deal’s Letter; Some Obama Questions “Off-Limits?”

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/01/10/eligibility-wh-confirms-rep-deals-letter-some-obama-questions-off-limits/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 13, 2010, 03:19:27 pm
Is Obama's real name “Steve Dunham"?

UIPA REQUEST CONFIRMS QUIP, EXPLAINS MULTIPLE ORIGINAL VITAL RECORDS OF BARACK OBAMA

An intrepid citizen-researcher has confirmed that the man who goes by the name “Barack Hussein Obama II,” has an original vital record kept by the Hawaii Department of Health, which bears the name “Steve Dunham.”

The citizen researcher began her quest, following two lines of research: 1) the fact that the name “Steve Dunham” appears in records associated with Obama’s alleged mother, Stanley Ann Dunham; and 2) the fact that Obama himself is said to have quipped that his middle name was “Steve”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/12/his-name-is-steve-dunham/


Berg v Obama – District Court – Court of Appeal ruling entered on Docket

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/berg-v-obama-district-court-court-of-appeal-ruling-entered-on-docket/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 13, 2010, 03:42:25 pm
Taitz, Lincoln Florida Hearing

In the confluence of Birther legal talent that took place yesterday in a Florida court room, regarding forgery in the real estate redemption case, Rivernider v. US Bank, I’m afraid the promised written report will have to wait until two Politijab court observers pick themselves up off the floor.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6136
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 19, 2010, 06:36:30 pm
Berg Files Another Judicial Notice Against Taitz

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6237


Orly Taitz Hired A Lawyer To Fight Bar Assn Charges

So says Ed Hale, who will be interviewing her on Thursday night. This may explain the frenzy she has been in for the past few days, which did seem a bit different from the frenzy she is usually in.

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. has heard from the California Bar Association and does not like it one bit. She is incapable of defending herself adequately, so she’s sprung for a professional attorney. Bar investigations are confidential, so we may never know what really happens, and that’s a goddamned shame. But Ed Hale promises she will be talking about this very thing on his radio show this Thursday night.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6255

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 19, 2010, 06:52:08 pm
Orly Rebuffed by McCain

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/orly-rebuffed-by-mccain/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 21, 2010, 01:31:31 am
A McHenry County judge denied a Fox River Grove woman’s request to present to a grand jury her claims that President Barack Obama’s citizenship amounts to widespread voter fraud.

Sharon Ann Meroni, founder of Patriot’s Heart Media Network, and 20 unnamed network members asked Judge Sharon Prather to appoint Meroni an investigator. As an investigator, Meroni wanted to compel testimony and present evidence before the grand jury about the alleged voter fraud.

But Prather told her this morning that there was no legal basis to allow such an appointment. She also said Meroni had failed to include any facts in her court filings to support her request last month.

“There is no legal basis for me to do what you are asking me to do,” Prather said, after Meroni questioned her decision.

Prather said the State’s Attorney’s Office is vested with the authority to decide what cases to prosecute.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6334


In the Third District US Court of Appeals for Eastern Pennsylvania, Philip Berg has made some strong charges against Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq, accusing her of practicing law without a license there.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6324

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 21, 2010, 02:06:04 am
Yesterday, Attorney Mario Apuzzo filed the opening brief on behalf of the Plaintiffs in Kerchner et al. vs. Obama & Congress, before the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/20/apuzzo-files-opening-brief-in-kercher-vs-obama-congress-appeal/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 23, 2010, 06:13:01 pm
Radio Daze: Orly on Ed Hales new show, Plains Radio back on the air.

http://www.theregulator.net/neonzx/edhale/edhale-orly-2010-01-21.mp3


Cong. Nathan Deal: “I don’t have any issues with his birth certificate”

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6356



Kerchner v Obama – Appeal – 3rd Circuit Precedent

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/kerchner-v-obama-appeal-3rd-circuit-precedent/


Old Chrysler’s Attorneys Throw Mud In The Court’s Eye

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/old-chryslers-attorneys-throw-mud-in-the-courts-eye-our-response/

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 27, 2010, 05:54:47 pm
Orly Taitz May Run For State Office, what is the odds that she win?

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6455


Orly v Obama – Quo Warranto – Motion to be assigned to Judge Lamberth and motion for leave of the Court

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/orly-v-obama-quo-warranto-motion-to-be-assigned-to-judge-lamberth-and-motion-for-leave-of-the-court/


Moral indictment filed against Columbia University in quest for Obama’s records

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/23/moral-indictment-filed-against-columbia-university-in-quest-for-obamas-records/




Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 29, 2010, 08:15:01 am
McCain Primary Challenger Hayworth: Obama ‘Should Come Forward’ With His Birth Certificate

http://americangrandjury.org/mccain-primary-challenger-hayworth-obama-should-come-forward-with-his-birth-certificate


Hawaii launches defense to Obama birth queries

http://americangrandjury.org/hawaii-launches-defense-to-obama-birth-queries


Taitz Quo Warranto Related To Failed American Grand Jury Case

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6629


Democrats Capitalizing on Obama’s Citizenship memo urges Democratic candidates to force their opponents to answer a series of questions:

“Do you believe that Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen?

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/democrats-capitalizing-on-obamas-citizenship/



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 31, 2010, 07:38:44 am
Orly v Obama – Docket

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/orly-v-obama-docket-2/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Triadtropz on January 31, 2010, 08:17:04 am
I think Obama was hatched in a lab. he's not from Kenya he's from Monsanto....
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: lord edward coke on January 31, 2010, 09:14:08 am
Yes, it would be a shame to lose all that info. Hopefully it is just a forum data glitch and it will turn up soon.
 :)
found this thread on point.  

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=77556.msg859589#msg859589

and=  

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=95590.msg870321#msg870321
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Damascus on January 31, 2010, 09:45:26 am
The matter of "birth certificate" seems to be a polarizing (left/right) issue. Most of the Lib's at my college say it is a right wing, nut job, conspiracy invention. They never look at any of the evidence they are given. Hannity embracing the issue only further polarizes the issue as being "right wing". Be very careful of who your friends are(guilt by association).
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 03, 2010, 09:28:04 am
Keyes v. Bowen Appealed: Precedent Exists for Courts to Qualify Public Executives

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/02/02/eligibility-keyes-v-bowen-appealed-precedent-exists-for-courts-to-qualify-public-executives/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 03, 2010, 11:25:06 am

Quote
Quote from: Protean on December 07, 2009, 03:56:20 PM
Yes, it would be a shame to lose all that info. Hopefully it is just a forum data glitch and it will turn up soon.
 :)

found this thread on point.  

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=77556.msg859589#msg859589

and=  

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=95590.msg870321#msg870321

Thanks, but not the missing thread. Apparently it was deleted by a Global Mod--wanted to get rid of the infighting posts.
Oh well...
 :'(
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 03, 2010, 12:54:01 pm
Allen v Soetoro – Doc 27 – Partial Motion to Dismis Granted

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/allen-v-soetoro-doc-27-partial-motion-to-dismis-granted/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 04, 2010, 06:17:15 pm
Taitz v. Obama Intervention Sought By Usurper-Buster Strunk

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6817


Meroni v. McHenry County Grand Jury—DENIED

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6834
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 06, 2010, 05:00:32 am
Obama Doesn’t Like Questions About His Citizenship

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/02/04/eligibility-obama-doesnt-like-questions-about-his-citizenship/comment-page-3/#comments


Dems 2010 Plan Is to Try to Marginalize Republicans as Tea-Party Candidates, and memo urges Democratic candidates to force their opponents to answer a series of questions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cL3kblNNmo&feature=player_embedded


HI Attorney General’s office refuses to corroborate Obama’s HI Birth

While political momentum is building within the Democratic Party from coast to coast to make the issue of Obama’s claims to be born in Hawaii a litmus test for its political opponents in the 2010 general elections for Congress, a key component in such a strategy has been undermined by the Hawaii Attorney General’s Office.

In correspondence with The Post & Email, Jill T. Nagamine, Deputy Attorney General for the State of Hawaii, has made it clear that her office will not corroborate or back in any way the July 27, 2009 Statement of Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, which declared Obama Hawaiian-born and a “natural-born American citizen.”

The stunning admission was made in an email sent to the Editor of this paper yesterday evening.

The implications of this denial are catastrophic for the Democratic strategy.

The Hawaii Attorney General’s office has the duty to prosecute the laws of the State.  Mark J. Bennett, the current Attorney General, was appointed to the office by Governor Lingle on Jan. 3, 2003. He is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney General for Honolulu, and a graduate of Cornell’s Law School.  Bennett is the first Republican to hold the office in 40 years.

According to published reports, Dr. Fukino has admitted that her July 27th statement received the verbal approval of the HI Attorney General, who “o.k.’d it.”

In an attempt to corroborate the contents of Dr. Fukino’s statement and understand better the value of that testimony, I put the following two questions to Nagamine, as a member of the press.

 I am seeking some information in response to 2 questions I have.  Please understand that your response(s) or non-response will be quoted by our paper.

    Q. 1: Does the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health have any statutory duty or authority to define the citizenship status of anyone whose vital record(s) are kept by that department?

    Q.2: According to the legal references employed by your office, what is the defition of a “natural-born citizen” of the United States of America?

I put my question to the Deputy Attorney General to avoid putting the Attorney General in a situation of a conflict of interest, if he in fact, did, as Dr. Fukino claims, advise her regarding her July statement.

Nagamine, in response, asserted that any answer to such questions given by her office would represent a conflict of interest for her office.  And that is an explicit admission that Dr. Fukino had no statutory authority nor duty to make such a statement, and that the Attorney General’s office will not stand behind Fukino’s claim that Obama is a “natural-born American citizen.”

It is such, because if Fukino’s declaration had legal weight of any kind, surely a response to my questions would have corroborated that without such a conflict-of-interest scenario.  You only have a conflict if the Fukino claim would not be supported by a Nagamine response.

In December, the Department of Health for the State of Hawaii issued its own dossier of excuses as to why they are also refusing to confirm, by documentation, the July Statement to Dr. Fukino.

Ironically, and quite oblivious to these developments, the Democratic Party in Tennessee issued a missive berating that state’s Republican Lt. Governor, Ron Ramsey, who yesterday publicly denied that he was certain of Obama’s birth-story claims:

Tennessee Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey today questioned the president’s citizenship, offering further proof that the Republican leadership in the General Assembly is out of touch with real Tennesseans.
   
“I don’t know whether President Obama is a citizen of the United States or not,” Ramsey reportedly told the Nashville Republican’s First Tuesday Club after it was suggested that no one running for president be put on a Tennessee ballot unless proof of natural born citizenship is provided.
   
Mr. Ramsey would rather pander to a far-right wing group of conspiracy theorists than govern in a pragmatic approach that most Tennesseans expect from their political leaders.

Quite irrationally, the Democratic Party is now asserting an undocumented claim  as political “truth” and doubt concerning the veracity of such an unsupported claim as a “conspiracy theory,” which indeed is more evidence of the Party’s withdrawal from a Main Street notion of reality.

The Post & Email recently published a report explaining why the electronic image promoted by the Obama campaign of a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth is in fact a crude forgery and has been recognized as such for nearly two years.

In October, the Hawaii Attorney General’s office also refused to take a public stand on what the term “natural born citizen” means, raising further doubt about the value of any counsel offered by the Attorney General to the Fukino statement.

The Post & Email notes, furthermore, that the term “natural-born” is more commonly the medical term for a natural birth; whereas “natural born” is the constitutional term meaning born on U.S. Soil of two U.S. citizen parents.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/02/hi-attorney-generals-office-refuses-to-corroborate-obamas-hi-birth/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 06, 2010, 05:06:39 am
The California Birther Ticket, all of them runing for office

For Governor: Charles Edward Lincoln, III

For Lieutenant Governor: Lucas Daniel Smith

For Secretary of State (or Attorney General): Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=6854


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 06, 2010, 03:11:01 pm
http://obamacrimes.com/?p=673

BIRTH CERTIFICATE MARCH ON WASHINGTON

For Immediate Release:  – 02/03/2010

For Further Information Contact:
Philip J. Berg, Esquire

555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12

Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL  [7445]

Fax (610) 834-7659

[email protected]

Berg Announces “Birth Certificate March on Washington” to Demand Obama Resign as Obama is not “Constitutionally qualified”
to be President


(Lafayette Hill, PA – 02/03/10) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the first Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States announces “Birth Certificate March on Washington” demanding Obama resign as President as he is “Constitutionally ineligible” to be President.

Berg is requesting all citizens of the United States to email, fax or mail a “copy” of their Birth Certificate that will be presented to Obama demanding that Obama resign because he has failed to produce his long form [vault] Birth Certificate to show he is “Constitutionally eligible” to be President.

Berg related an email he received.  A woman from Texas told me she registered her thirteen [13] year old nephew for school.  When registration was finished, her nephew asked the Principal, “Can I ask you a question?”  The Principal said, “Yes.”  Her nephew said, “How come I had to show my Birth Certificate to register for school, but Obama did not have to show his to be President ?”

Berg said, “That email motivated me to continue to expose Obama for the fraud he is !”

Berg continued, “Since the Courts are taking their time to get to the point of allowing ‘Discovery,’ it is time to motivate the citizens of the United States for a ‘Peaceful Revolution’ to expose the ‘HOAX’ of Obama, the biggest ‘HOAX’ in the history of our country, in over 230 years !”

Berg wants people to email, fax or mail a copy of Their Birth Certificate to:

Email: [email protected]

Fax:  (610) 834-7659

Address:
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531

Berg said, “Then, we will be preparing them to deliver to Obama demanding that he resign from the Office of President as he has not proven that he is “Constitutionally eligible” to be President and   that Obama has not produced legal documents to show he legally changed his name from his ‘adopted’ name of ‘Barry Soetoro’ from Indonesia.

I am proceeding for the 305 + million people in ‘our’ U.S.A., for ‘our’ forefathers and for the 3.2 million men and women that have died and/or been maimed defending our Constitution with our ‘Peaceful Revolution’ to prove that Obama is not Constitutionally qualified/eligible to be President.”

Berg continued, “I still have cases pending in the Federal Courts. 
To see the status of each case, go to

http://www.obamacrimes.com

For copies of all Press Releases and Court Pleadings, go to:

http://www.obamacrimes.com
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 07, 2010, 05:09:06 am
Birther Speaker Takes Heat at Tea Party Convention

http://washingtonindependent.com/75949/birther-speaker-takes-heat-at-tea-party-convention?dsq=32897726#comment-32897726
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 07, 2010, 05:48:13 am
Orly Taitz at the Tea Party Convention

http://washingtonindependent.com/75958/orly-taitz-in-nashville
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 07, 2010, 12:39:51 pm
Birther Speaker Takes Heat at Tea Party Convention

http://washingtonindependent.com/75949/birther-speaker-takes-heat-at-tea-party-convention?dsq=32897726#comment-32897726

Here is the full article--thanks for finding this.
 :)

http://washingtonindependent.com/75949/birther-speaker-takes-heat-at-tea-party-convention?dsq=32897726#comment-32897726

Birther Speaker Takes Heat at Tea Party Convention
By David Weigel 2/6/10 11:00 AM

NASHVILLE — During WorldNetDaily Editor-in-Chief Joseph Farah’s Friday night dinner speech, which spent around 10 of its forty minutes on questions about Barack Obama’s citizenship, Andrew Brietbart was among the conservatives in back of the room grumbling audibly about what he was hearing.

After he introduced the evening’s closing entertainment — a film titled “Generation Zero” — Breitbart walked outside to the convention hall. There, I heard Breitbart criticizing Farah, and briefly talked to him about it before I noticed that WorldNetDaily’s Chelsea Schilling was already talking to him, holding up a voice recorder. I backed up to allow her to continue her interview, which consisted of questions on why Breitbart didn’t think Obama’s citizenship was a legitimate issue.

“It’s self-indulgent, it’s narcissistic, it’s a losing issue,” Breitbart told Schilling. “It’s a losing situation. If you don’t have the frigging evidence — raising the question? You can do that to Republicans all day long. You have to disprove that you’re a racist! Forcing them to disprove something is a nightmare.”

“Wouldn’t you say,” asked Schilling, “in this case, that Farah is asking Obama to prove something rather than his disprove it?”

Breitbart rejected the premise. “When has a president ever been asked to prove his citizenship?”

After a few minutes Breitbart ended the conversation and Schilling started interviewing Tea Partiers about the speech, finding a little less skepticism. (I found some Tea Partiers, like Rita Grace of Virginia, who said they didn’t appreciate Farah’s speech.) I spotted Farah and asked him if his speech had been approved by Tea Party Nation.

“They asked me to speak,” said Farah. “They didn’t ask me, ‘What do you want to speak about?’ No, this operates like a free and open society, not like the kind of Marxist society you would apparently like to be a journalist for.”

I told Farah that his speech was getting negative attention already, and that Breitbart, who’d taken the stage after him, had criticized the “birther” parts of the speech. Farah shook his head and walked over to Breitbart in what seemed like an attempt to debunk my question.

“Andrew is my friend,” said Farah. “He has the right to disagree, and he has the right to say anything to a socialist newspaper that he wants. And if he wants to criticize his friend to you, and he’s dumb enough to do that…”

Breitbart raised his eyebrows. “I’m dumb to do what?”

“Criticize your friend to this socialist newspaper.”

“I was talking to her,” said Breitbart, pointing to Schilling. “I was talking to you. And I was saying that I disagreed on the birther stuff.”

“OK, well, did you know that Dave Weigel from The Washington Independent was”–

“I was talking to her,” said Breitbart. “She was asking me if I thought it was wise to bring it up, and I said, no. We have a lot of strong arguments to be making, and that is a primary argument. That is an argument for the primaries that did not take hold. The arguments that these people right here are making are substantive arguments. The elections in Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts were all won not on birther, but on substance. And to apply to this group of people the concept that they’re all obsessed with the birth certificate, when it’s not a winning issue–”

“It is a winning issue!”

“It’s not a winning issue.”

“It is! It becomes even more of a winning issue when the press abrogates its responsibility–”

“You don’t recognize it as a fundamentally controversial issue that forces a unified group of people to have to break into different parts? It is a schism of the highest order.”

“Nothing exposes the president’s–”

“Then prove it!”

“The press isn’t asking the question–”

“Prove it!”

“Prove what?”

“Prove your case.”

“I should prove, what, a birth certificate that may or may not exist?” Farah had gotten irritated. “That’s ridiculous. You don’t even understand the fundamental tenets of what journalism is about, Andrew. It’s not about proving things. It’s about asking questions and seeking truth.”

Breitbart tensed up after that insult. “Right.”

“I know you’re not a journalist, so that’s fine. But don’t diminish people who’ve been doing this for 35 years.”

“So you’re going to go on record saying that I’m not a journalist?”

“Are you? I’ve never heard you claim to be. Are you?”

“I’ll let it be answered by you.”

“Well, I knew Drudge didn’t consider himself a journalist, so I assumed that you were. … I don’t know, I’m not trying to insult you.”

“You did.”

At that point, Judson Phillips — who had spotted a very small crowd around us — walked into the fray and tried to simmer everyone down with a joke.

“I can give you absolutely conclusive and definitive proof that Obama’s birth certificate does not exist. How else do you explain why Joe Biden is vice president?”

That more or less ended the conversation — Farah moved on, and agreed to talk more about why he and WorldNetDaily continued to pursue stories on Obama’s citizenship. The citizenship issue had stuck around and taken off, he said, “because of us.” He ran stories asking questions about the issue — including stories that were quickly debunked — because the rest of the media wasn’t asking the questions.

“Do you think this has made my life easier, doing this?” asked Farah. “I used to be on TV all the time. I haven’t been on Fox News once since I started talking about this.”

Asked whether he thought his speech created any problems for Sarah Palin — prompting reporters to ask why she patronized a convention with rhetoric like this — Farah rejected the premise.

“Sarah Palin is a big girl,” he said. “She can take care of herself. I have a lot of confidence that she’ll take care of herself well. … My objective is not to get Sarah Palin elected or something. My job as a journalist is to seek the truth.”

An audio of the Farah-Breitbart dispute in MP3 format, right click to download.

http://blip.tv/file/get/Daveweigel81-AndrewBreitbartDebatesJoeFarahOnBirtherism290.mp3
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 07, 2010, 12:52:11 pm
Orly Taitz at the Tea Party Convention

http://washingtonindependent.com/75958/orly-taitz-in-nashville

Again--thanks for finding this.

http://washingtonindependent.com/75958/orly-taitz-in-nashville

Orly Taitz (most likely a government agent provocateur ((Mossad perhaps?)) to discredit, trash, and crash the Birther Movement) was there too at the Tea Party Convention.

Full article:

Orly Taitz in Nashville

By David Weigel 2/6/10 3:28 PM

NASHVILLE — The woman dubbed by the Orange County Register as “queen of the birthers” arrived at the National Tea Party Convention today and did what she always does: hustle around talking to reporters and trying to get media coverage. Pictured below: Taitz talking to Lydia DePillis of The New Republic.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2750/4334930141_f8c4a90c20.jpg)
Orly Taitz in Nashville (Photo by David Weigel)

Taitz has a sort of media blackout policy on me — she has refused to talk since I posted a photo essay of the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot that featured, among other things, photos of her and of Third Reich memorabilia. Worse things can happen to journalists than being dissed by Orly Taitz — it saves a lot of time, and a lot of indulging a person who relentlessly brings up defunct or debunked legal arguments. But Taitz — who was recognized by quite a few people who stopped to shake her hand — did talk to other reporters, while hitting some speed bumps with others. For several minutes, she tried to make her case to Carl Cameron of Fox News, to no avail. As I spoke to John Avlon of The Daily Beast, Taitz ran over and asked Avlon when his book “Wingnuts” will be coming out and whether she could get a copy. (She’s profiled in the book.)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 10, 2010, 06:18:51 pm
The Short-Lived California Birther Ticket

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7008


Dr. Orly Taitz, in an interview with “Russia Today,” speaks for the American Tea Party movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk9NMApEWaw&feature=player_embedded


Keyes v Bowen – Motion to sustain Demurrer Granted – President Obama

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/keyes-v-obama-motion-to-sustain-demurrer-granted-president-obama/

Keyes v Bowen – Motion to sustain Demurrer Granted – Secretary of State

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/keyes-v-bowen-motion-to-sustain-demurrer-granted-secretary-of-state/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 10, 2010, 06:31:03 pm
Candidate for Congress: 'If he claims he was born at Kapi'olani, I want him to show proof'

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=124656
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 13, 2010, 05:39:14 am
First an eligibility question, now a new investigation

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/12/first-an-eligibility-question-now-a-new-investigation-2/

Okubo speaks out on ethics of her Department

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/11/okubo-speaks-out-on-ethics-of-her-department/


GOP Candidate For Texas Gov Questioning President’s Birth Certificate Is “Healthy”

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2010/02/12/is_medina_a_birther.html


Taitz And Kreep, Together Again

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7159
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: centexan on February 14, 2010, 07:10:14 pm
This is cool.  Debra Medina, running to unseat Governor Rick Perry in the Texas Republican primary, said something controversial about 9/11 on the Glenn Beck program.  They've been villifying her for it.  Rather than back down though, she said this:

"The 9/11 Commission report, you know, great sections of that are redacted and they’re top secret. That makes us all wonder,’ well what’s happening back there?’ The same is true with the birth certificate thing. I think it’s healthy that people are asking questions."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0210/From_911_to_the_birth_certificate.html

Lol.  So cool.  No wonder the establishment is eager to get rid of her.  If she gets elected she'll have done a great service to the nation by flicking aside Perry and Kay Bailey Hutchison.  And next, maybe she'll stop doing business with Barry Sotero (aka Barrack Hussein Obama) until he shows his papers.  lol
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 15, 2010, 11:31:11 am
Attorney facing penalties wants birth docs for defense

http://americangrandjury.org/attorney-facing-penalties-wants-birth-docs-for-defense


Obama and Columbia College plead not guilty

http://americangrandjury.org/obama-and-columbia-college-plead-not-guilty


American Grand Jury joins forces with Dr. James David Manning

http://americangrandjury.org/history-in-the-making-american-grand-jury-joins-forces-with-dr-james-david-manning



Birthers’ Harassment Of Hawaii State Government?

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7285


Orly Taitz Readying For CA Bar Disciplinary Hearing, looks like she is in trouble

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7231
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 15, 2010, 04:04:54 pm
Deal has called Obama’s Bluff

After nearly three months waiting for a response to his letter, U.S. Representative for Georgia, Nathan Deal, has yet to receive any reliable information from Barack Hussein Obama regarding Obama's citizenship status.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/11/deal-has-called-obamas-bluff/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p3O_6k8WT4&feature=player_embedded



Donofrio and Pidgeon – Appeal

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/donofrio-and-pidgeon-appeal/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 18, 2010, 07:32:07 am
Orly Taitz in Danger of Disbarment?

Way back in spring of 2009, a lengthy document started circulating in the birther blogosphere, supposedly a formal complaint to the California Bar Association about the conduct of Laguna Niguel dentist/lawyer Orly Taitz.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/ocweekly-orly-taitz-in-danger-of-disbarment/


Berg v Obama (Qui Tam) – Appellant Brief Filed

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/berg-v-obama-qui-tam-appellant-brief-filed/


Gino DiSimone, running as an Independent, assures Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. that, just as soon as he is Governor of Nevada, he is ready to take out Obama fast and hard.

Posted to her web site*:

Posted on | February 17, 2010 |

Gino DiSimone Says (#132):
February 16th, 2010 at 1:10 am

My name is Gino DiSimone and I am the leading Independent non-partisan candidate for Governor of Nevada. Immediately after I take the Governors seat, I will require the birth certificate and I will exercise all my executive powers to get this done! It will be the biggest issue you have ever seen. I have already laid the foundation to blow this wide open like never before and it will be from the executive powers of a Sovereign State Governor.

Please send my info around the USA. God be with us as we take this tyrant down, fast and hard. Your support is greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Gino DiSimone
Candidate, Governor of Nevada 2010, Independent non-partisan, GIN ! (Go Independent Nevada !

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7406



McCain’s Birther Opponent Issues Threat

Last month on Chris Matthews, Tea Party challenger J.D. Hayworth came out as a Birther pol. Now he is letting John McCain know just what kind of fight he can expect in the Arizona primary race.

J.D. Hayworth has a warning for John McCain: Bring up Jack Abramoff and I’ll rehash the Keating Five scandal.

The former six-term congressman isn’t yet officially in the race but already the Arizona GOP Senate primary shows signs of turning into a bare-knuckle brawl.

“If John McCain really wants to make this a campaign about ties to lobbyists we will very forcefully respond to his outrageous conduct and Bahamian vacations with convicted banker Charlie Keating,” said Jason Rose, a spokesman for Hayworth.

Perhaps Sarah Palin, who has endorsed McCain, will be sent out to fight it out, Teabagger to Teabagger, along the campaign trail. Wouldn’t that be fun.

And it’s on – McCain camp responds:

“Mr. Hayworth was the largest recipient of campaign contributions tied to the corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Senator McCain led the investigation that exposed Abramoff’s corruption.”

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7321


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 19, 2010, 07:08:59 am
CIA Columbia Obama Cover Up Paster Manning talks about the latest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WedxY61d60&feature=player_embedded


Orrin Hatch: “Satisfied” On Obama Eligibility

Taking a hard time from Tea Partyers at a Town Hall Meeting, Hatch said the Tea Party movement is tearing the Republican Party apart.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7454



CPAC Hearing Birther Gospel?

Birther attorney Philip Berg is at the conservative conference. He doesn’t appear to be speaking, but he hopes to have listeners.

Berg concluded, “I will be attending the CPAC 2010 Convention in Washington, DC from Thursday, 2/18 to Saturday, 2/20 at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel. The Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) will be helpful for me to spread the message that Obama is a fraud, a phony and Obama has put forth the biggest ‘HOAX’ in the history of our great nation.”

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7417



Okubo gives false UIPA response to The Post & Email


http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/18/okubo-gives-false-uipa-response-to-the-post-email/



Palin says questions about Obama's eligibility should not be part of the debate

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/18/palin-rejects-import-of-article-ii-section-1-clause-5-of-the-u-s-constitution/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 20, 2010, 08:17:41 am
Obama’s Incomplete Dossier; HI State Sen Intros “Vexatious Requests,” Birth Cert Bills

Hawaii State Senator Will Espero has introduced a bill to label some people “vexatious requestors” who can be denied responses from the DOH. This action was taken 2 weeks after I posted “Red Flags in Hawaii”

http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/

    a blog post documenting how Hawaii government officials have broken laws and rules in order to cover for Obama.

    The Honolulu Advertiser has an article about it. Apparently I can’t post anything from the HA because they won’t allow it, but it’s in an article online today. In it, Okubo claims that she gets about 50 requests/month for Obama’s BC.

    First off, I call BS on that number. I requested all the UIPA requests involving Obama for a 2-week period and there were 7 requests -- only 2 of which were for a BC, and both for a non-certified abbreviated birth certificate, which the Administrative Rules expressly authorize to be released to anybody who asks for it.

    Second, I believe this firmly places us in phase 3 of the saying, “First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win.”

From the HonoluluAdvertiser:

    “They’re spurred on by these ‘birther’ blogs who direct them to bombard the Health Department even though they have no legitimate right to the information,” [Health Department spokeswoman Janice] Okubo said.

    “They’ve been misled to believe that the state of Hawai’i gives out birth information to anyone who requests it, but really our law protects birth information. We’re entrusted with protecting people’s vital records. To open them up would mean opening them up to identity theft and other types of concerns.”

    State law allows birth certificates to be issued to family members, legal guard- ians, representatives of a person’s estate, or by court order or other legal purposes.

    Okubo said those who have been requesting Obama’s birth certificate don’t meet the legal standards.

Sorry, Ms. Okubo, but some of us already know that certain records are private. What has been requested are certain facts surrounding these documents — but more on this process in a moment.

The article continued:

    Rick Newbold, a defense contractor from North Carolina now working in Iraq, asked the Health Department and the White House for Obama’s birth records, in part, because Newbold believes it’s “hypocritical of the president to proclaim that his administration is transparent when it obviously is not,” he wrote in an e-mail to The Advertiser.

    “My interest in discovering and defending the truth about our chief executive is to maintain the integrity of the office of the president and to protect our republic from subversion, especially from foreign powers. America is in decline as a result of the globalist mindset and monied interests who seek to destroy America and integrate it into a global system of governance and taxation.”

    The continuing issue over Obama’s birthplace — and, therefore, his eligibility to serve as president of the United States — has led state Sen. Will Espero, D-20th, (’Ewa Beach, Waipahu) to introduce two bills this session on different sides of the issue.

    Senate Bill 2056 would open up Hawai’i birth records under strict conditions to people who currently have no legitimate right to see them. Senate Bill 2937 would allow state agencies to label people who persistently “abuse” the public information process as “vexatious requestors,” which would allow state officials to deny their requests for documents.

    Espero does not necessarily believe that everyone should see birth certificates that are now restricted, but said he wrote the bills to trigger legislative hearings to discuss the issue.

    “It’s all because of the noise about the president not being born here,” Espero said.

    “I believe he’s born here. Most of Hawai’i believes he’s born here and it’s not an issue here as it is with these Mainland birthers. It probably would not end all of the controversy because I believe the people that are these birthers have some other motives. Whatever you say or provide to these people, they will not be happy with anything.” …

    Attorney Jeff Portnoy, who represents The Advertiser, has made a career out of fighting for public access to government records and believes that county and state officials need to be more open about what they do.

    “On paper, the present state laws regarding access are very impressive, both philosophically and technically, in talking about that in a democracy, the public should have access to the workings of government,” Portnoy said. “Practically, the interpretation of those laws leaves a lot to be desired.”

    The reality, Portnoy said, is that “Hawai’i has a significant reputation as being a hostile place to obtain records and access and, frankly, a history of executive and legislative leaders who have been fairly hostile, either through their attorney general or corporation counsels or the bureaucracy itself.”

    Portnoy understands the desire among some people to see Obama’s birth records, but he does not put their requests in the same category as seeking openness to government dealings, such as details of public works projects or private meetings among officials to decide who will chair city councils, commissions and boards.

    “That’s the people’s business,” Portnoy said. “We’ve never brought an action to get somebody’s Social Security number and there are legitimate reasons to keep birth records private. Identity theft is a legitimate, serious issue.”

Then, Ms. Okubo stated the following:

    The majority of the people who e-mail or send letters to Okubo asking for Obama’s birth certificate do not challenge her response once she tells them they have no legal right to the information, she said.

    But about a dozen people continue to hammer Okubo with follow-up requests.

    “They want all of the organizational charts for our Office of Health Status Monitoring that handles vital records and for our health informations systems, our IT office,” Okubo said. “They request from me every single communication or every single document or request every record available related to President Obama’s vital records.”

    Okubo readily acknowledges that she hasn’t always been able to reply to a request within 10 working days as required under Hawai’i’s Uniform Information Practices Act, the state’s version of the federal Freedom of Information Act.

    But she adamantly disagrees with the “birthers’ ” interpretation of Hawai’i law.

    “They usually say that by not giving out his birth certificate we’re breaking the law,” Okubo said.

    “But we would be breaking the law by giving out a birth certificate to someone who does not have a right to it.”

    When Okubo told one writer they did not have a right to Obama’s birth certificate because they were not related to the president, the person wrote back saying they, indeed, had a common ancestor.

    “They said they have a tangible right to his birth certificate because they’re descended from Adam,” Okubo said, referring to the biblical figure. “We told them they need to provide some type of legal documentation.”

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/02/19/eligibility-obamas-incomplete-dossier-hi-state-sen-intros-vexatious-requests-birth-cert-bills/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: PEOA on February 20, 2010, 08:19:56 am
keep the pressure on them..........good work..............
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 20, 2010, 08:25:58 am
Obama’s Birth Certificate Was Amended in the Six Months Before He Announced Run for Presidency

 http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/amendment-while-deciding-to-run/


Obama supporters are starting to push back

Now that plans are being finalized for the trial in New York starting May 14th, Obama supporters are starting to get nervous. The fact that Manning can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Barack Obama never attended Columbia University, at least not in any capacity as a student, is not what the Obots want to hear.

Manning contends “no one, absolutely no one, remembers Obama from Columbia.”

Fox News did an interview with 400 Columbia ex-students and all they got were shrugs when asked about knowing Obama.

Small bits of information were circulated around the internet trying to build some kind of defense for Obama during the election period. You hear the stories about the “Pakistani” rommate and the piece from Phil Boerner who says he roomed with Obama at 104th Street. Then there is the 2-page article in the Sundial (student newspaper) that Obama supposedly wrote while at Columbia. Finally, you have the ex-professor Michael Barone who opines about grading one of Obama’s thesis papers at Columbia.

In reality, the sum total of these bits and pieces still come up way short of proving anything. Such information does not build a solid case demonstrating Obama ate, slept, worked and studied for 2 years at Columbia in order to receive the degree that was awarded him.

Dr. Manning tells you exactly why the internet stories being touted by the Obama supporters are nothing more than fabrications.

http://americangrandjury.org/obama-supporters-are-starting-to-push-back
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 22, 2010, 06:43:35 am
Organizers of a new march on Washington are offering Americans the opportunity to show President Obama their birth certificates and declare that unless he produces documentation of his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, he should quit.

The event is headed by Philip Berg, the first to bring court challenges to Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that presidents be a “natural born citizen.”

While a number of cases, including several of his own, remain pending, Berg told WND today the issue needs to be pressed.

“Since the courts are taking their time to get to the point of allowing ‘discovery,’ it is time to motivate the citizens of the United States for a ‘peaceful revolution’ to expose the ‘hoax’ of Obama, the biggest ‘hoax’ in the history of our country, in over 230 years,” he said.

Berg, who publicizes his cases through his ObamaCrimes.com website, said the planned “Birth Certificate March on Washington” will demand Obama resign.

A date and other logistical details of the march are to be announced within a few days, Berg told WND.

He’s also asking all citizens to e-mail, fax or mail a copy of their own birth certificates to him to present to Obama. The president should resign, he said, “because he has failed to produce his long form birth certificate to show he is ‘constitutionally eligible’ to be president.” (He said if people choose, they could black out private information.)

The copies can be e-mailed, fax to 610-834-7659 or mailed to: 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12, Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531.

“We will be preparing them to deliver to Obama demanding that he resign from the office of president as he has not proven that he is ‘constitutionally eligible’ to be president,” Berg said.

“I am proceeding for the 305 plus million people in ‘our’ U.S.A., for ‘our’ forefathers and for the 3.2 million men and women that have died and/or been maimed defending our Constitution,” Berg said.

http://americangrandjury.org/march-on-washington-to-tell-president-to-quit


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: jeremystalked1 on February 22, 2010, 06:58:33 am
There always has to be a scandal on the back burner, so that if the puppet gets out of control he can be destroyed deniably.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 22, 2010, 01:09:10 pm
HI Dept. of Health refuses to corroborate that Obama born in Hawaii

The Post & Email has received documentation establishing without a doubt that the Hawaii Department of Health categorically refuses to corroborate the July 28, 2009 statement of Dr. Chiyome L. Fukino that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a “natural-born American citizen.”

Since Fukino’s statement has become the fundamental claim to eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama, the failure of her Department to corroborate it in any way establishes that claim as false, by common sense.  For honest folk, speaking sincerely, do not conceal corroborating evidence.  Nor is there a reason to hide Obama’s vital records unless they prove he is not eligible.

Since the public statement was made, numerous citizens have attempted to understand and verify the claim made by Dr. Fukino in her capacity as Director of the Department of Health for the state of Hawaii.  On each occasion the Department has officially refused to show any documentary evidence whatsoever to corroborate Fukino’s press release.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/19/hi-dept-of-health-refuses-to-corroborate-that-obama-born-in-hawaii/
Title: Orly Taitz Seeks UN Protection?
Post by: menace on February 22, 2010, 06:36:44 pm
February 22, 2010
Attorney Appeals to UN for Protection from Persecution in United States

Geneva:

Today the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights has confirmed that American attorney Dr. Orly Taitz has applied for urgent action under the mandate for human rights defenders.

Dr. Taitz, a well known Constitutional attorney, has been under increasing attack in the United States from groups and individuals opposed to her legal actions challenging the Constitutional qualifications of Barrack Hussein Obama to hold the office of President of the United States.

The California attorney has been the victim of death threats, vandalism, false complaints, and a suspected assassination attempt. Her reports to law enforcement and the judiciary have been ignored.

This office has been retained by Dr. Taitz to support her efforts for a UN investigation of her claims.

For more information contact:
Dr. Jonathan Levy Attorney
1629 K Street NW Suite 300
Washington DC 20006 USA

Make way for the Blue Helmets.


http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7625

http://www.scribd.com/doc/27277636/Immediate-Release-February-22-2010
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 23, 2010, 06:17:28 pm
Canadian citizenship hurdle to be U.S. president? Michigan governor pooh-poohs concern over dual allegiances

The governor of Michigan has pooh-poohed concern over her allegiance to Canada – she was born there and has dual citizenship in the United States and Canada – and whether that would impact her candidacy if she chose to run for president.


Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm

"Come on," Jennifer Granholm said while being interviewed, along with Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, by Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday."

The discussion was about what's going on in Washington and how it impacts states. At the end of the interview, Wallace asked Granholm about her plans.

"Your two terms are up at the end of this year. Do you have any interest in moving here to Washington and working in the administration?" he asked.

"Are you offering me a job? No, I …" she said.

"Yes, because I'm a conduit for the Obama White House. Exactly," Wallace joked.

"No, I'm totally focused this year on creating every single job I can until the last moment," Granholm said. "December 31st at midnight is when I'll stop. So I have no idea what I'm going to do next, but I'm not going to run for president. I can tell you that."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=125858


HI Petition Launched in Spite of Introduced Bills

hat Hawaii State Senator Will Espero had introduced two bills in his State’s legislature designed to deal with questions regarding Mr. Obama’s vital documentation. I also referenced a HonoluluAdvertiser.com article wherein the Department of Health’s spokeswoman, Janice Okubo, seemed exasperated over having to deal with approximately a “dozen” persistent requests for departmental records.

Apparently her job is about to get even more interesting.

The Post & Email today announced that they have begun sending out petitions demanding full disclosure of Mr. Obama’s background documentation, including all “government documents pertaining to the preparation of the public statements made” by the Hawaiian Director of Public Health.

As writer Sharon Rondeau posted:

    On July 27, 2009, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, made an unprovoked public statement about Barack Hussein Obama’s birth and citizenship status. Since that time, neither she nor the Health Department has released any meaningful “index data” to substantiate the claim that Obama is a “natural born American citizen.”

    While birth certificates are protected by privacy laws in the state of Hawaii, the Uniform Information Practices Act, Section 92-F12, mandates that “(15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public” must be released upon request. Therefore, when Dr. Fukino voluntarily made her public statement regarding Obama’s status, her department became obligated to release the backup information used to prepare it. To date, Hawaiian officials have refused to provide any correlating evidence used to craft Dr. Fukino’s public statement.

    Obama himself has acknowledged that many have questioned his citizenship. However, on his first full day in office, he signed an Executive Order barring the release of his personal records. Never in American history has this been done by a sitting president.

According to the donation page for the petition, the site is intending to send a copy “to Hawaii Governor Linga Lingle (R), to the HI Lt. Gov.  James Aiona (R), to the HI Director of the Department of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino (R); and to each member of the HI State legislature: in all, more than 90 governmental officials.”

In part, the petition claims the following:

    Barack Obama, however, claims as his father, Barrack Obama, Sr., a man who was a Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies in 1961. He makes this claim in his book, Dreams from My Father, and via the release of an electronic image of a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth. If such is the case, he cannot legitimately hold the U.S. Presidency.

    As I am sure you will readily admit, it is patently absurd for the United States of America and its citizens to rely upon electronic images of alleged government documents, while the general public is refused an opportunity to inspect such documents. Such a manner of acting violates all that America represents and everything which our Founding Fathers fought and died for in the American Revolution. We are a nation of the people, by the people, and for the people. Our government by nature must be open and transparent.

    The State of Hawai’i echoes this long tradition of freedom when in its Uniform Information Practices Act it states (92F-2):

        …the people are vested with the ultimate decision-making power. Government agencies exist to aid the people in the formation and conduct of public policy. Opening up the government processes to public scrutiny and participation is the only viable and reasonable method of protecting the public’s interest. Therefore the legislature declares that it is the policy of this State that the formation and conduct of public policy—the discussions, deliberations, decisions, and action of government agencies—shall be conducted as openly as possible. [emphases original]

there currently is no Hawaiian State law that bars any individual (or groups of individuals) from petitioning the State government for records, despite whatever statements that officials make in an attempt to quell such questions

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/02/22/eligibility-hi-petition-launched-in-spite-of-introduced-bills/



Court Grants Motion for Leave to File Overlength Brief in Kerchner Appeal

This is great news because the case will now continue forward as scheduled. Obama’s and Congress’s opposition brief was initially due on February 22, 2010. The Department of Justice obtained a 14-day extension to file that brief, making the new due date March 8, 2010. After they file their opposition brief, I will then have 14 days within which to file a reply to that brief. All briefs will be posted at this blog and it is my hope that the public will read these briefs so as to stay fully informed on this issue that is critically important not only to my clients but also to our Constitutional Republic.

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/02/court-grants-motion-for-leave-to-file.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 23, 2010, 06:23:56 pm
CPAC Panel Devolved Into Birther Forum

A panel called “Saving Freedom and Due Process from Oppressive Justice Department” devolved into a forum for the so-called “birther” movement on Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

Two panelists dropped out rather than appear alongside a leader in the “birther” movement, which believes that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States, according to a person with direct knowledge of the situation.

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli and Scott Bullock of the Institute for Justice both dropped out of the CPAC forum because of the presence of Gary Kreep, according to the knowledgeable person, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

“Unfortunately Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has had to decline today for a variety of different reasons, and because it is that season in Washington, D.C., Scott Bullock who is my good friend, has had a family emergency unfortunately he’s just had to rush back out, so I apologize for that as well,” said Andrew Langer of the Institute for Liberty, who was moderating the panel.

Kreep, director of the United States Justice Foundation, is behind a birther infomercial and has filed lawsuits demanding an original copy of Obama’s birth certificate. For viewers who donate $30, Kreep will send a fax in their name to the 50 state attorneys general and Attorney General Eric Holder that demands that Obama produce his “real” birth certificate.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7613

Gary Kreep at CPAC Panel on Justice Department, introduces Phil Berg in the audience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESwg_gcFzrA&feature=player_embedded

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/orly-appeals-to-un/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 24, 2010, 09:25:01 am
Arizona House panel approves bill requiring presidential candidates to show birth certificates

http://www.startribune.com/nation/85141947.html

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7657
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 26, 2010, 04:30:07 pm
today is the day Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. is due to respond to complaints filed against her with the California Bar Association. The proceedings are confidential, however, and unless she posts something to her web site or rumors otherwise leak out, there will be no news on that front today.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7820


Orly Taitz talks about her applying to the United Nations for "urgent action under the mandate for human rights defenders."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6M7o3ruNdU


Confirmation that Certificate Number Given by State Registrar’s Office

http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/confirmation-that-certificate-number-given-by-state-registrar%E2%80%99s-office/



Sun Shines On Meroni v. McHenry County Grand Jury

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7729


Is Orly Taitz Up To UN Standards?

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=7754



McCain’s Anti-Birfer Ad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28qf6QOfpC0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 27, 2010, 11:22:35 am
Did Orly Taitz File Her Bar Response Today?

The California State Bar doesn't comment on whether it's investigating an attorney for breach of professional ethics, but that doesn't mean they don't guffaw about it.

We just called bar investigator Robin Littlefield, whom Orly Taitz herself said is looking into complaints against the Laguna Niguel anti-Obama attorney. As soon as we said the words "Orange County," Littlefield started a slow, low laugh on the other end of the line.

She knew why we were calling.

That didn't mean she could talk about Taitz. In fact, she couldn't even confirm that she was investigating Taitz--even though Taitz herself has posted on her blog and filed court pleadings saying that Littlefield had contacted her.

"If she wants to tell on herself that's one thing," Littlefield said. "But we're not gonna tell on her."

Sounds like confirmation to us.

In Taitz's request for an emergency injunction filed as part of her Taitz v. Obama lawsuit in Washington, D.C., Taitz said she needed the courts to make Obama and various other bodies turn over a host of Obama's vital documents by Feb. 26--today--in order to file a timely response to the bar. Obama's birth certificate, see, will nullify all the instances where Taitz's actions allegedly violated professional standards.

There's no indication on Taitz's blog as to whether she filed that response today.

What, exactly, might the bar be investigating? Well, there's that order from federal Judge Clay Land of Georgia, slapping $20,000 of fines on Taitz. Land wrote in the order that his ruling was to be sent to the bar.

There are also complaints from independent attorneys who don't like the way Taitz has handled herself. We spent some time talking with one of those attorneys the other day, who asked not to be named, likely so that his social security number won't show up in one of Taitz's voluminous "dossiers" sent to law enforcement agencies across the country. But he said he has filed more than a dozen complaints with the state bar.

"I'm concerned with her being a lawyer, because I'm a lawyer," he said. "It's a self-policing profession, and she has brought our profession into disrepute. She is the worst lawyer I have ever seen... The worst lawyer in the history of the human race."

As for the kinds of rules she may have been breaking, here's one taste. California Business and Professions Code, §6106.1:

Advocating the overthrow of the Government of the United States or of this State by force, violence, or other unconstitutional means, constitutes a cause for disbarment or suspension.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/the-hilarious-haters/did-orly-taitz-the-worst-lawye/



Gino DiSimone Independent Candidate for Nevada Governor says Obama should be tried for treason if not natural born

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/27/meet-gino-disimone-independent-candidate-for-nevada-governor-4/



Okubo responds to public outcry for investigation

In response to the public outcry over my last report regarding Okubo’s apparently false response to my request for index data from the Hawaii Birth Index, Miss Janice Okubo has directed staff at the Hawaii Department of Health to release a pdf file containing what appears to be scans of a computer printout containing redacted pages from the Hawaii Birth Index for those sections, which would contain the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama.

My initial UIPA request of January 22, 2010, sought the index data for all children on the Hawaii Birth Index whose parents’ surnames were either Obama, Payne, Soetoro or Dunham.  The Certificate of Hawaii Birth was issued from 1911 to 1972 for those who wished to have a document proving that they were born in Hawaii.  It was a way to apply for a document for those who were born a year before the request was made and who did not have a standard birth certificate, presumably because they were born at home, not in a hospital.  I had made my UIPA request to determine if Obama was born before Hawaii became a state, but a name on this Index does not exclusively prove that.  If you read the link on “Certificate of Hawaii Birth” you can see that it was granted to those who provided what the Department of Health considered sufficient proof of a a birth in Hawaii.  Thus it provided a vehicle to claim a Hawaii birth without actually being born in Hawaii, if only one succeeded in convincing the Department that you were.

In response to the evasive denials of my original UIPA request and the outright claim I had written what I did not write, Miss Janice Okubo admitted to me last week that microfiches of the Hawaii Birth Index did exist and that they did not contain the said surnames.  Following my disclosure of that to several friends, I was given a copy of a Treasury Department Document from 1949 showing that at least one individual with the surname Dunham was born in Hawaii during the period in which the Hawaii Birth Index was used.

As a consequence, I wrote Miss Okubo and asked for copies of the microfiche to prove the veracity of her claim and offered to pay for them.  I also suggested to readers of The Post & Email that they contact Mrs. Lingle, the governor of the State of Hawaii, asking for an outside review of the matter.

Today’s release of a pdf file appears to be the Department of Health’s way of responding to this public outcry, even though the documents do not prove anything, since they are not prima facie evidence of anything, other than that

1) the Department does not understand how to respond to a UIPA request:  I asked for microfiche copies, not pdfs of computer printouts,

2) does not understand how to respond to the Press:  obstructed my UIPA request for three weeks, made false claim, and never responded to my email to Miss Okubo asking her to look into this matter,

3) and does not understand how to respond properly to a public call for investigation with solidly confirmatory documents:  if the Department thinks these images are corroborating evidence, I would hate to think what kind of evidence they accept to issue a Certificate of Hawaii Birth!  If this is the standard of evidence in 2010, what was it in 1961?

Indeed, an impartial observer to this present affair, considering this manner of response of the Department to my UIPA request, now has even more evidence to regard the claim of Obama being born in Hawaii (based on having a Hawaii Birth Certificate) as even more dubious, as that Department evidently does not understand or use any professional sense of the term “prima facie evidence.”  This can only mean that any Certificate of Live Birth that they might issue is worthless as evidence without a concomitant disclosure of all supporting documentation filed to obtain it — which has been the contention of this e-Newspaper from the beginning.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/26/okubo-responds-to-public-outcry-for-investigation/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 27, 2010, 01:54:06 pm
In his Pajamas Media piece “Please, No More ‘Half-as-Much’ Republicans,” J. Robert Smith states that swapping out John McCain for J.D. Hayworth in the upcoming GOP senatorial primary in Arizona is a “nice bargain from a conservative’s viewpoint.”

It would certainly be that, and an analysis of the voting records of these two men from the Grand Canyon State via vote ratings from the American Conservative Union (ACU), National Journal, and the Americans for Democratic Action (ADA) highlights just how good a bargain it would be.

Looking first at the ACU numbers, we see that Hayworth’s ACU lifetime rating of 98 is significantly higher than John McCain’s lifetime ACU average of 81. In fact, in John McCain’s 22 years in the Senate prior to last year, he was only able to equal or surpass Hayworth’s low-water mark of 88 (in ’03) three times (’94, ’95, and ‘96). What’s more, with the exception of 2003, Hayworth voted with the ACU position at least 96 percent of the time every year he was in Congress — a feat that John McCain has only achieved once.

With respect to National Journal’s ratings, Hayworth’s average score for the 12 years he served in the House was 22 points higher than John McCain’s average rating over this same period (National Journal ratings are only available for McCain for this 12 year period, as he did not vote enough in ’07 or ’08 to receive a rating and scores are not available prior to ’95). To put this in perspective, this gap is greater than the 21-point margin in 2008 between Senators Sam Brownback and Arlen Specter. Additionally, just as it was with the ACU data, Hayworth’s least conservative year fairs very well against McCain’s average year. In fact, Hayworth’s least conservative score (78) is higher than any score John McCain has received from National Journal since 1995.

As for the ADA ratings, they too show that Hayworth is clearly the most conservative choice to represent Arizonans alongside Jon Kyl in the U.S. Senate. According to ADA statistics, McCain and Hayworth have voted against the liberal ADA position 85 and 96 percent of the time, respectively, over the course of their congressional careers.

However, as clear as this data shows the difference between these two men to be, the ideological gap between them is actually even greater, as the above analysis does not take into account that there are really two John McCains — the McCain of the late 80s and most of the 90s, and the oft-yielding maverick Republican that we have known since.

From 1987 when John McCain first entered the Senate through 1997 his average ACU rating was a respectably conservative 88, but from 1998 through 2008 his average score fell to a less than stellar 73. To put this in perspective, only four current Republican senators have a lifetime rating that is less conservative than McCain’s average rating over this latter period (Snowe – ME, Collins – ME, Voinovich – OH, and Murkowski – AK). And the clear distinction between these two periods is such that McCain’s least conservative result prior to 1998 of 80 has only been surpassed once since (an 81 in 2000).

John McCain’s penchant for spending time on the other side of the aisle in the last decade is also evidenced by the voting statistics from National Journal and the ADA. The average ratings received by John McCain from these two groups were 10 and 12 points less conservative, respectively, for the period since 1998 than they were for the period prior. In fact, since 2000 only six current Republican senators have received a National Journal rating for any given year that is less conservative than the average score of 62 that McCain has received since 1998. What’s more, since 2001, McCain has, on average, ranked as the 9th least conservative Republican in the Senate according to National Journal’s ratings. Contrast this with Hayworth, who in his 12 years in Congress ranked, on average, as the 46th most conservative member of the House — putting him solidly amongst the top third of Republican representatives during this period.

So as you can see, Hayworth is right when he states that “Arizona Republicans will have a clear choice in the August 24 primary.” On the one hand, they can choose John McCain’s unique brand of hit-n-miss conservatism, and on the other they can choose someone who actually is — at least as Washington Republicans go — a true conservative.

But regardless of the outcome, one thing is for certain: Conservatives across the country will be crossing their fingers in August in hopes that Arizona Republicans will get it right, because we could definitely stand to have fewer “half-as-much Republicans.”

http://americangrandjury.org/mccain-vs-hayworth-no-contest-for-conservatives



Bill O'Reilly Interviews Senate Candidate J.D. Hayworth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIMgBZpKaH4
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 01, 2010, 06:43:25 pm
Riddler: Riddle me this, Batman. When is a Birther NOT a Birther?

Batman: A cunning riddle, Riddler. I’d say the answer would be ‘When he doesn’t say or do anything that would indicate, to the average person, that he was one.’

Riddler: Then explain, bat-brain, how Joseph Farah, editor of World Net Daily, could be a Birther. After all, as he rightly pointed out, While I have written tens of thousands of words about the subject of Barack Obama’s eligibility and talked for dozens of hours on the public airwaves and given hundreds of interviews on this subject, never have I stated that Obama was not born in the United States.

Robin: Holy Word Salad, Batman! How do we cut through an explicit denial based on what he hasn’t said? Newsweek’s going to have to print that retraction, now!

Batman: Simple, Boy Wonder! We look at his actions, which, we are reminded time and again, speak much louder than words. And based on them, I would say that Newsweek has nothing to worry about for identifying him as… a… Birther.

Riddler: Oh boy, we’re in for a long-winded one, aren’t we? Go get some coffee, boys. We’re going to be a while.


‘Birther’ Conspiracy Roils GOP Campaigns

http://washingtonindependent.com/77867/birther-conspiracy-roils-gop-campaigns



To some Tea Party Leaders; this is a Constitutional issue not a crazy fringe conspiracy theory!

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/02/to-some-tea-party-leaders-this-is.html





Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 02, 2010, 11:03:49 am
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/S3Hq_Ky1v8I/AAAAAAAAAAs/cEJRgRC-d-w/S660/A_Fixed_illegal_Obama.bmp)

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 03, 2010, 05:27:29 pm
Orly’s Political Competition

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8009


conspiracy to put Obama in the White House?

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/02/was-there-a-conspiracy-to-put-obama-in-the-white-house/


Per Chalice, Patriot’s Heart network and USJF are partnering to file a quo warranto in the District Court for the District of Columbia. Also, PHN is filing a new action on Wednesday in McHenry County with an application seeking a TRO — to restrain what, she does not say, but intimates that it is about the 2010 election. Chalice is looking for an attorney to represent PHN in McHenry County proceedings. Kreep has pledged that USJF will pay for the attorney.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/sharon-ann-meroni-joins-kreep/



Obama Quo Warranto Update; Obama(DOJ) File Motion to Dismiss Quo Waranto Action...
 
Flashback: Judge Carter's Oct 29th Dismissal Order stated this; “The writ of quo warranto must be brought within the District of Columbia because President Obama holds office within that district.” - Judge Carter - 10/29/09

The Defense(Obama) argued the very same position, in the motion to dismiss, in the Judge Carter case. They said Orly's case was in the wrong jurisdiction and needed to be filed in D.C..

Now, the Motion to Dismiss(Obama), just filed in D.C., in the Quo Warranto, the defense is arguing just the opposite, saying lack of jurisdiction. The defense then uses the lefts favorite tactics from the Alinsky playbook.

Via Free Republic; 'U.S. Attorneys' Office moves to dismiss Orly Taitz's Quo Warranto case' - U.S. Attorneys with the Department of Justice have moved to dismiss Orly Taitz's Quo Warranto case for lack of jurisdiction. Additionally, the U.S. Attorneys' Office asserts that any judicial or bar sanctions against Dr. Taitz are the consequences of her own actions.

"Although, to Defendant's knowledge, this is Dr. Taitz’s first case in which she serves as Plaintiff, this is not her first bite at the apple, or even her second: she has unsuccessfully represented plaintiffs in at least three judicial districts seeking to raise similar claims. In each of these cases, the United States district courts have declined to find jurisdiction and have denied relief similar to the ultimate relief sought here.

Dr. Taitz's Complaint suffers from exactly the same defects that doomed many of her previous litigation efforts. Simply put, her allegations about the President's citizenship are not a concrete and particularized injury, as required to establish standing under the "case or controversy" requirement of Article III, and the harms that she has suffered from judicial and/or bar sanctions for her conduct in litigation are the consequences of her own actions and not in any way traceable to any legal claim cognizable against Defendant." ...source.

Taitz v. Obama, Civil Action No.: 10-0151 in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-quo-warranto-update-obamadoj-file.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Guns Equal Freedom on March 03, 2010, 05:36:05 pm
There always has to be a scandal on the back burner, so that if the puppet gets out of control.

I was thinking the samething.

If Obama gets out of control in in The White House.

I wouldn't doubt some liberal will bring back his birth certificate records to impeach Obama.

I think Obama wanting the American People to pay for all of America's Heathcare might do it.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: oyashango on March 03, 2010, 07:26:15 pm
You Know, I must have fought with just about everyone on this forum trying to find some justification for Obama's birth certificate. With all the new evidence arising, I am beginning to change my mind about this issue.  It does seem odd that his records are sealed when they should be open to the American people for scrutiny.  I can no longer turn a blind eye to defend the indefensible.

Why won't he just open his records so that we can see just who he is and where he was really born? If he is innocent, this should not be a problem, even amongst his most harden critics. So, far he has lied about everything. No evidence of "hope" or productive "change".  He is spending this nation into an early grave.
If he is lying about these things, what else ( I am wondering now) is he hiding? ???
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 04, 2010, 05:52:50 pm
Monroe County Tennessee Grand Jury update: discussing Monroe County Tennessee, as well as other grand jury corruption in this country.


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/profile.aspx?userurl=us-grand-jury
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 05, 2010, 04:17:30 pm
The Obama admin finally responded to the Arizona Eligibility Bill now working its way through the Arizona legislature.

Via, Rachel from ResistNet and rachelabombdotcom's YouTube Channel; Robert Gibbs insists that He was the one who had Obama/Soetoro Birth Certificate online. The problem is it isn't a Birth Certificate and his statement about what HI officials have determined is not true.

At some point another reporter off camera asks "why did you put it online?" The answer is pretty insulting to anyone who has been following this issue.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu7dcdhtKXI


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-gang-respond-to-arizona-bill.html


Arizona lawmakers a joke to prez? Gibbs: Obama not paying attention to push for eligibility document

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126940
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 06, 2010, 05:40:03 pm
Bommbshell: Hawaii Conspiracy Allegations on Email Records Request


Major late-breaking news has been posted this evening by Sharon Rondeau at The Post & Email. I have the links to this story and more over at News.TheRightSideOfLife.com. Basically, officials from the great State of Hawaii “inadvertently” shared some emails with a records requester, and it’s likely to blow back in the officials’ faces.

The email exchange was rather short, with the admission that a records request had to be handled by them. And then there was this little ditty:

    Hi, Janice,

    I checked online for a “Kathleen Gotto” and I came across this letter that I presume she wrote http://blogtalkradio.com/MenifeeValleyRadio/blog/2008/11/15/Letter-to-the-US-Supreme-from-Kathleen-Gotto-This-is-a-vital-issue-to-us-all who accused Obama of “…who almost got away with stealing the Presidency…” I doubt that any answer I might send her would satisfy her since she has the same agenda as Rob Lamb (who accused me of lying and that I should be fired). Although Rob Lamb did not mention Obama’s name, he can be found online as another person who has a hidden agenda. It is interesting that in all of Rob Lamb’s emails he did not mention Obama’s name even once.

    Aloha,

    Ken

It’s great to know that officials are conspiring against private individuals with respect to records requests, now, isn’t it, I ask obviously quite sarcastically?

Frankly, if you don’t think this is a conspiracy, I’ll direct you to what Ms. Rondeau pointed out in the annals of the great States’ own laws:

    …U.S. Code, Title 42, Chapter 21, Subchapter I of §1985. Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights reads:

        (3) Depriving persons of rights or privileges:

        If two or more persons in any State or Territory conspire … for the purpose of depriving, either directly or indirectly, any person or class of persons of the equal protection of the laws, or of equal privileges and immunities under the laws; … ; in any case of conspiracy set forth in this section, if one or more persons engaged therein do, or cause to be done, any act in furtherance of the object of such conspiracy, whereby another is injured in his person or property, or deprived of having and exercising any right or privilege of a citizen of the United States, the party so injured or deprived may have an action for the recovery of damages occasioned by such injury or deprivation, against any one or more of the conspirators.

The Post & Email claims to have the emails to back these allegations up. If they do and legal action is pursued, it could be another means to get to the truth behind this President and the apparent arrogance that some officials have in the way they treat concerned citizens.

I have a number of other eligibility and other links highlighted on the News site, but long-time readers of my blog will certainly note that this story proverbially takes the cake.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/03/05/eligibility-bombshell-hawaii-conspiracy-allegations-on-email-records-request/


Hawaii Department of Health has conspired against the public for 5 months
DENIED UIPA RESPONSES AFTER DOING INTERNET BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THE POLITICAL VIEWS OF PERSONS MAKING UIPA REQUESTS

mong the documents which The Post & Email Legal Fund recently acquired with the financial assistance and support of the readers of this e-Newspaper, shocking evidence has been found which apparently indicts officials of the Hawaii Department of Health for conspiracy to deprive U.S. citizens of their constitutional right to due process.

The incriminating evidence was found in an inadvertent disclosure of emails between Ms. Janice S. Okubo, Communications Director for the Department, and Kenneth David, Supervisor of the Vital Statistics Office.

It appears that David took it upon himself to do background checks on those making UIPA requests and on that basis suggested to Okubo to deny responding to their lawful requests for the release of government documents, requests which they made on the basis of the grants of rights of access accorded them by the Hawaii Uniform Information Practices Act (UIPA).

Following this email exchange, the Department of Health discriminated against citizens whom it perceived to have “a hidden agenda.” The term “hidden agenda” was coined by David to refer to citizens who questioned Obama’s legitimacy to hold the office of president: a clearly political view, on which basis they could not be lawfully denied access.
Kathleen Gotto makes a UIPA request

The criminal conspiracy seems to have come to the fore in regards to a UIPA request made by Kathleen Gotto. In the course of that request, she sought further explanatory information from the Vital Records Department, on October 3, 2009, by email:

    From: Kathleen Gotto
    Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:44PM
    To: OHSM, Vital Records
    Cc: Okubo, Janice S.
    Subject: Per Dr. Okubo
    Importance: High

    I asked Dr. Okubo the following question:

    “If amendments are made to a Hawaiian Cert of Birth and a late birth certificate is issued in lieu thereof, is it reasonable to assume it is called a Late Hawaiian Cert of Birth?” (Dr. Okubo replied) I do not understand your question. Please send this request with clarification to [email protected]

    I just want to know what an amended Hawaiian Cert of Birth is called after it is amended. Is it then called a “late birth c3, ertificate”, late Hawaiian Certificate of Birth or something else? The amending of Hawaiian and non-Hawaiian birth certificates appear to be different in your DOH Vital Records section.

    Also, perhaps you can provide me more clarification on the last question I asked Dr. Okubo:

    “From the amendment instructions above for a non-Hawaiian cert of birth, once it is marked up with the changes, does it stay in the file like that or will a new one be issued similar to the late HI BC?: (Dr. Okubo replied) As I understand, any changes to Hawaii vital records are noted on the record.

    Here’s my point: What Dr. Okubo stated is true for what (appears to be) non -Hawaiian BCs only. The Vital Records Amendment section appears to differentiate how amendments are done to both Hawaiian and non-Hawaiian birth certificates. The amended Hawaiian BC must be cancelled and a “late” birth certificate is issued in lieu thereof. However, that does not appear to be the procedure for non-Hawaiian BCs. They are to be amended on the face of the record, not replaced with a new BC apparently.

    Therefore, in addition to the question above asking what a “late” cert of birth is officially called after an amendment is this question: are Hawaiian birth certs amended differently from non-Hawaiian birth certs? It reads that way to me. It is clear that the amended Hawaiian BC is replaced with a “late”/new BC. What is not clear is whether the amended/marked-up non-Hawaiian BC stays in the file marked up or is it replaced with a new BC incorporating the changes?

    Thank you for clearing this up for me. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can provide any more clarification on my questions. They come right out of the Vital Records requirement. It’s just a bit confusing with Hawaiian and non-Hawaiian BC amendments.

    Sincerely,

    Kathleen Gotto

The Conspiracy is hatched by Ken David

After receiving Gotto’s request, Ken David of the Vital Records Department sent the following email to Janice Okubo:

    From: vr-info
    Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:18PM
    To: Okubo, Janice S.
    Cc: Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D.
    Subject: FW: Per Dr. Okubo
    Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009

    Hi Janice,

    Did you want me to respond to Kathleen’s email? I might not even try to clarify her questions. Instead, should I reply, I would probably appeal to the confidentiality of our records and the procedures we follow.

    Aloha,

    VR-Info (Ken David)

Okubo then replied to David:

    From: Janice Okubo
    To: ‘vr-info’
    Cc: ‘Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D. 8:28PM’
    Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:28PM
    Subject: RE: Per Dr. Okubo

    Hi Ken,

    If you are able to respond succinctly then I would appreciate that. I don’t plan to respond to any further e-mails from this person. I was just required to provide a response to the UIPA request. Thanks.

    Janice

David then emailed Okubo, suggesting a conspiracy to deprive Gotto of a response, the incriminating evidence of which is contained in the following email:

Subject: FW: Per Dr. Okubo
From: vr-info
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 1:50 PM
To: Okubo, Janice S.
Cc: Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D.
Subject: Re: Per Dr. Okubo

Hi, Janice,

I checked online for a “Kathleen Gotto” and I came across this letter that I presume she wrote http://blogtalkradio.com/MenifeeValleyRadio/blog/2008/11/15/Letter-to-the-US-Supreme-from-Kathleen-Gotto-This-is-a-vital-issue-to-us-all who accused Obama of “…who almost got away with stealing the Presidency…” I doubt that any answer I might send her would satisfy her since she has the same agenda as Rob Lamb (who accused me of lying and that I should be fired). Although Rob Lamb did not mention Obama’s name, he can be found online as another person who has a hidden agenda. It is interesting that in all of Rob Lamb’s emails he did not mention Obama’s name even once.

Aloha,

Ken


Image of the actual copy of the Email exchanged between Ken David and Janice Okubo at the Hawaii Department of Health, Office of Vital Records: this copy was inadvertently released by HI DoH staff in regard to a different UIPA request.

That this exchange resulted in an abrupt shutting off of information to Gotto is confirmed by an analysis of her email correspondence, which was disclosed by Gotto to The Post & Email. In confirmation of this conclusion, Gotto made the following remark to the paper:

    The last correspondence I received from Janice Okubo was on 10/4 at 5:52PM. Ken David’s email to her about me was 10/5 at 1:50PM. On Oct 3, I had had correspondence with the Vital Records Office (where Mr. David appears to work), after Dr. Okubo had directed me there for any further info on “Changing an item on a Cert of Hawaiian Birth.”

    I suppose Dr. Okubo can say that since I appealed to OIP (because of not getting forthright info from her), she was out of the picture. But I could argue that I had to go to OIP on 10/21 at 9:24PM because it appears Mr. David had smeared me to her on 10/5 and thus gave her reason to stop corresponding.

    I don’t know what the legal ramifications of all this are, but it sure does look conspiratorial.

It looks like sufficient evidence for a charge of conspiracy to deprive Gotto of her civil liberties, even from a cursory consideration of the U.S. Code, Title 42, Chapter 21, Subchapter I of §1985. Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights reads:

(3) Depriving persons of rights or privileges:

If two or more persons in any State or Territory conspire … for the purpose of depriving, either directly or indirectly, any person or class of persons of the equal protection of the laws, or of equal privileges and immunities under the laws; … ; in any case of conspiracy set forth in this section, if one or more persons engaged therein do, or cause to be done, any act in furtherance of the object of such conspiracy, whereby another is injured in his person or property, or deprived of having and exercising any right or privilege of a citizen of the United States, the party so injured or deprived may have an action for the recovery of damages occasioned by such injury or deprivation, against any one or more of the conspirators.

The rights deprived are those granted in the UIPA for disclosure of government records.

On February 11, 2010, Janice Okubo, Communications Director for the Hawaii Department of Health, issued the following statement:

    The Department of Health is entrusted by the people of Hawai‘i to protect the vital records it maintains. The Department operates within the confines of the laws that govern state and federal agencies and will continue to do so. No amount of bullying or spreading rumors and false innuendos will persuade the department or its officials to break the trust of the people, operate outside of the law, or misuse the information it is entrusted to protect.

While it is admirable that Ms. Okubo’s department seeks to “protect” birth and other records, it is patently obvious that the Department does not follow its own state laws when it comes to releasing information. She stresses the importance of privacy, but fails to follow through when openness is in order.

If the Hawaii Department of Health did this with Kathleen Gotto, then against whom else did they discriminate?

It appears that Mr. Charlton was also targeted, because his UIPA request of Sept 27, 2009 was never answered until Dec. 28, 2009, well beyond the ten-day answer period mandated by the law. At that point, Health Department personnel denied having any internal records about the information sought. Only after repeated complaints to the OIP in November 2009 and a letter from that office to Okubo on December 8, demanding a reply, was any response received at all.

If you believe the above information is sufficient to demand a public investigation, you can contact the following officials, who would have jurisdiction to undertake such

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/05/hawaii-department-of-health-has-conspired-against-the-public-for-5-months/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 09, 2010, 04:44:51 pm
Taitz v. Obama: Orly Sues The Defense

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. has now added US Department of Justice attorneys representing President Obama in her Quo Warranto case, Taitz v. Obama, to the list of defendants.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/


Orly Taitz Falsely Accusing Damon Dunn

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8211


Taitz seeks Obama’s records to defend herself in CA Bar complaint

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/14/taitz-seeks-obamas-records-to-defend-herself-in-ca-bar-complaint/




Obama and Congress File Their Opposition Brief to the Kerchner Appeal

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-and-congress-file-their.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 10, 2010, 06:12:13 pm
HI Director of Department of Health Perjures Herself before HI Senate Committee

The Post & Email has received documentation which discounts the testimony which Dr. Fukino gave  to the Hawaii Senate Committee on Judiciary and Government Operations regarding SB2937.

In her testimony of February 23, 2010, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health stated, “For more than a year, the Department of Health has continued to receive approximately 50 e-mail inquiries a month seeking access to President Barack Obama’s birth certificate in spite of the fact that President Obama has posted a copy of the certificate on his former campaign website.”

But documents received by The Post & Email show that the actual number and time frame of the responses were much lower.

State Senator Will Espero proposed the amendment which would label repeat requesters “vexatious,” despite the fact that last summer, he told WorldNetDaily that he planned to “introduce legislation through which the state’s lawmakers would force the public disclosure of all President Obama’s birth documents held by the Hawaii Department of Health , including President Obama’s long-form original birth certificate.”

In August, Espero said, “My decision to file the legislation was primarily a result of the fuss over President Obama’s birth records and the lingering questions.” However, the bill which Espero has introduced to that end is SB2056, which would allow public access to birth certificates currently kept private by law, but only under very restrictive conditions.  Some of those conditions are a $50 fee for each birth certificate to be viewed, a 15-minute time limit, and  the Health Department assuming authority to redact any information that it deems “sensitive or confidential.”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/09/hi-director-of-department-of-health-perjures-herself-before-hi-senate-committee/



Kathleen Gotto, who last fall had requested information from the Hawaii Department of Health under the state’s UIPA law, has filed a formal complaint with the Office of Information Practices Ombudsman, accusing Department of Health employees of investigating her background on the internet and subsequently ignoring her request.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/10/civil-rights-complaint-filed-with-state-of-hawaii-ombudsman/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 11, 2010, 05:08:55 pm
Orly Rejected By California Republican Assembly

At a nominating convention over the weekend, Taitz’s primary opponent for California Secretary of State, Damon Dunn, got the nod by more than 80% of the vote.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/the-hilarious-haters/birther-enemies-forced-to-work/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 11, 2010, 11:53:44 pm
Allen vs. Soetoro Update; All Records For Lolo Soetoro To Be Released, DHS Have No Records For Obama's Mama? Got Records!?

Kenneth Allen's remarks regarding his recent Allen v. DHS FOIA Joint Status Report

"Just thought I would update everyone on the conference meeting with the Department of Justice. Mr. Bowen from the DOJ and I talked about the existing FOIA case, he informed me that I would be receiving documents with regard to Stanley Ann's passport information and other records within a few weeks as soon a 3 weeks and as late as 6 weeks.

The search by the DHS turned up nothing on Stanley ANN? But the DOS has a lot of documents, as for Lolo Soetoro they will be releasing everything. I have reserved my rights to further discovery and a possible deposition of Maya Soetoro should they redact more than necessary. I've reserved all my rights because I'm at a disadvantage, not having enough information to make a correct decision. We will be setting a date certain in August for a briefing date, August was my idea because it gives me enough time to study the document and decided if more discovery is needed"


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/allen-vs-soetoro-update-all-records-for.html



AGJ to Present 20 Federal Courts With Obama Treason Presentments..

http://prosecuteobama.org/?sid=springtour
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: g1rlg0ne on March 12, 2010, 01:24:33 am
It's interesting to me that their names aren't capitalized on the status report.
Everyone else's names are... except Obama, Soetoro, etc.
TONY WEST is. So is SHAPIRO.
 ???
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 13, 2010, 11:17:34 am
Taitz v. Obama: Orly Sues The Defense

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. has now added US Department of Justice attorneys representing President Obama in her Quo Warranto case, Taitz v. Obama, to the list of defendants.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/


Orly Taitz Falsely Accusing Damon Dunn

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8211


Taitz seeks Obama’s records to defend herself in CA Bar complaint

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/14/taitz-seeks-obamas-records-to-defend-herself-in-ca-bar-complaint/





Obama and Congress File Their Opposition Brief to the Kerchner Appeal

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-and-congress-file-their.html


Orly Taitz, who I believe is an agent provocateur--who's mission is to discredit, trash and crash the Birther Movement, may have another function, namely to threaten to expose Obama's background, as a further incentive to Obama to keep to his controllers plans. I find it hard to believe Obama would do anything other than his owners want, but finding a reason for Taitz actually exposing Obama is a test in logic. Last year the blog: Lame Cherry, brought up this plan of Orly's to petition for Obama's records to defend herself in court--it's a checkmate strategy.

From Menace's above post:


Taitz’s entire Application for Preliminary Injunction through this link, in PDF format.
http://www.thepostemail.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Taitz-v-ObamaPrelimInjunction.pdf

Abbreviated list by author of article--

1) It only costs Obama $12 and a signed permission form to release an official copy of his original Birth Certificate, whereas, without such a document, I, Orly Taitz, risk losing my bar license, on the grounds that Land allegedly sanctioned me justly for defending Captain Connie Rhodes’ and my own reputation before his court.

2) It represents a conflict of interest, not only in my present case, but in the case of Obama’s future prosecution, if the U.S. Attorney General’s Office is allowed to represent him in my case; therefore, I request the AGs recusal.

3) Numerous individuals have been harassed, persecuted, and had their livelihood damaged by Obama supporters for demanding the verification of Obama’s birth-story/citizenship claims.

4) I have been publicly threatened with death and being murdered for exercising my free speech rights in this regard.

5) My car was sabotaged in such a way as to cause, with high probability, my death by incineration.

6) I must defend myself against Land’s $20,000 sanction, before the Appellate Court in Georgia.

7) I therefore respectfully request a certified copy of Obama’s long form Birth Certificate, medical records showing actual birth, and school records at Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, and that my case be heard before Feb. 26th, on an expedited schedule.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 16, 2010, 08:45:11 am
Virginia Attorney General outlines birther legal challenge

Audio has surfaced of Virginia Attorney General outlining a legal strategy to challenge President Obama's citizenship.

In the recording, released by a liberal blog, Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli describes how someone could gain the legal standing to mount a successful lawsuit.

"It will get tested in my view when someone--when [Obama] signs a law, and someone is convicted of violating it and one of their defenses will be it is not a law because someone qualified to be President didn’t sign it," Cuccinelli says.

Cuccinelli even says it's "possible" that he could challenge Obama's citizenship in court if Virginia were to sue the federal government.

The kicker comes when Cuccinelli says he thinks it's possible Obama may have been born in Kenya.

"Someone's going to have to come forward with nailed down testimotny that he was born in 'place b,' wherever that is. You know the speculation is Kenya. And that doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility," he says.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/86739-virginia-attorney-general-outlines-birther-legal-challenge



Georgia Appeals Panel: Orly Has To Pay Up

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8391

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8329


Orly demands Social Security Hearing and CC’s the rest of the world

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/orly-demands-social-security-hearing-and-ccs-the-rest-of-the-world/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 16, 2010, 10:53:34 am

Orly demands Social Security Hearing and CC’s the rest of the world

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/orly-demands-social-security-hearing-and-ccs-the-rest-of-the-world/


Letter from above post:

03.15.10.

Attention Ms. Dawn S. Wiggins
Freedom of Information Officer
Social Security Administration
6401 Security Blvd
Baltimore, MD 21235-6401

Appeal of denial of disclosure of information under FOIA 5 USC §552(b)(6)

Demand for Administrative Hearing

Dear Ms. Wiggins

I am in receipt of your letter from 03.03.10., reference S9H: AD2135 and I respectfully appeal your denial of disclosure of information under FOIA 5 USC  552 (b)(6) and I demand an administrative hearing within 30 days for the following reasons:

   1. According to affidavits, provided by licensed investigators Mr. Neil Sankey and Ms. Susan Daniels (Exhibits A, B) Mr. Obama has used multiple social security numbers, which indicates social security fraud and identity theft. One does not have an expectation of privacy and right to privacy, when he uses identity of others. Moreover, such individual is subject to criminal prosecution for such crimes. If you, as a Social Security officer, upon receiving such information,  are refusing to act and prosecute, you become complicit and subject to criminal liability for aiding and abetting of felonies, subornation of felonies and under RICO.
   2. Social security number that Mr. Obama is using currently 042-68-4425, is a number, fraudulently obtained by Mr. Obama, as according to affidavits of Mr. Sankey, Ms. Daniels and former immigration officer, private investigator Mr. Sampson, this number was assigned between 1976-1977 in CT, while Mr. Obama resided at a time in HI. As a matter of fact, Mr. Obama never resided in CT.
   3. 042-68-4425 was originally assigned to an individual born in 1890, which makes him 120 years old. It appears this individual applied for the benefits when he was older and retired, and needed some Medicaire or Medicaid benefits. Mr. Obama is not 120 years old.
   4. Official Selective Service web site confirms Mr. Obama’s use of the SSN 042-68-4425
   5. Anyone bringing forward the matter of this fraud is subjected to retaliation. Investigator Sankey lost his privileges to use Lexis Nexis, which effectively took away his ability to obtain livelihood as a licensed investigator. Mr. Sampson lost his privileges to use Locator service, which effectively took away his ability to obtain livelihood. Major Stefan Frederick Cook was fired from his $120,000 position working for defense contractor, officer Ronald Dischler in Belleview Texas was threatened with investigation. Such behavior by Obama administration is indicative of a need to hide incriminating evidence.
   6. I am currently a Republican Party Candidate on the ballot running for the position of the Secretary of State of California. I personally, my husband and my three children were subjected to horrific intimidation, harassment, death threats, tampering with my car, cyber crimes, tampering with my pay-pal account, web site, defamation of character and other crimes.(see letter to Mr. Neal Kelley, Registrar of Voters of Orange County CA, Exhibit C). Persecutions were so horrific, that I had to seek protection from the UN, Civil Rights Defenders Commission in Geneva, Switzerland. [Edit: Hilarious...]

Wherefore, due to the above mentioned I demand disclosure of requested information, specifically original application for SSN 042-68-4425 and explanation of use of other multiple Social Security numbers by Mr. Obama. If you refuse to grant this appeal, I demand an  administrative hearing within 30 days.

Sincerely,

Dr. Orly Taitz, ESq

Cc Royce C. Lamberth Chief Judge US District Court District of Columbia, re 10-cv-151-RCL Taitz v Obama
Cc John J Roberts, Chief Justice Supreme Court of the United States, Associate Justices of the Supreme Court, re 08A524  Lightfoot v Bowen
Cc 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, San Francisco, CA, re Barnett et al v Obama et al 09-c-82
Cc 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, Atlanta GA,  re Rhodes v Macdonald et al 09-15418, Cook et v Goodet al 09-14698
Cc Robert Mueller, Director of  FBI
Cc Eric Holder, Attorney General of the United States
Cc Mark Sullivan, Director of Secret Service
Cc United Nations Commission for Civil Rights Defenders, Geneva, Switzerland
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 17, 2010, 08:47:50 pm
Dr. James David Manning states in this video how crucial it is to be at the CIA Columbia Obama Treason.

http://americangrandjury.org/make-a-sacrifice-to-save-america


Proposed Hawaii “vexatious” bill defeated?


http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/17/proposed-hawaii-vexatious-bill-defeated/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 17, 2010, 10:55:33 pm
More about Menace's above post here:

Rev. Manning is on fire: Obama's recruitment by the CIA----Boom Shacka Lacka!

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?page_id=6263

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WedxY61d60
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: chris jones on March 18, 2010, 10:42:23 am

You folks have done a great deal of work on this issue, I am impressed and respect your determination.

First, I have no doubt whatsoever Obmama is illegal. I am with you folks on that 100%, my take is he is a product of the elites, has been trained, nurtured, and set in place with an agenda, a script in hand and a platoon of oversears to protect his background and to insure he can not be touched.
He is a elite con artist under deep cover, a sleeper so to say.
Problem, if Mr. Obama is nailed on this and ousted, who will replace him. Biden,  Hillary, McCain.
Different face and same agenda.
Don't misunderstand, you fight is worthwhile, I commend the efforts of all involved, those who have  stuck their neck out.
I hesitated before entering this subject because I  admire the determination of each involved in this just cause, I am not trying to put a damper on anyones efforts.
 - The power has manipulated this goverment for decades, battalions of these freaks have worked tirelessly 24 hours a day to insure their plan is not interfered with and to reach its conclusion, the takedown of this nation, the enslavement of the citizenry.
Bush began the abomination as was his part in the elites plan, he was an actor, an on stage sociopath playing his part. -Along came obama, the savior, his 580 promises to the citizenry, the change.
This regime is a barrell of worms, replace Oby and another maggot steps in.
Yes, I would love to see him ousted, the truth be know to the people as to his criminal, unconstitutional presidency. I too admit this act would cause the eyes to open of the masses and perhaps open a door to clean up other factions who were involved.
OK, I'm with you, but if in fact he was tossed, what  then?

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 18, 2010, 12:33:36 pm
You folks have done a great deal of work on this issue, I am impressed and respect your determination.

First, I have no doubt whatsoever Obmama is illegal. I am with you folks on that 100%, my take is he is a product of the elites, has been trained, nurtured, and set in place with an agenda, a script in hand and a platoon of oversears to protect his background and to insure he can not be touched.
He is a elite con artist under deep cover, a sleeper so to say.
Problem, if Mr. Obama is nailed on this and ousted, who will replace him. Biden,  Hillary, McCain.
Different face and same agenda.

Don't misunderstand, you fight is worthwhile, I commend the efforts of all involved, those who have  stuck their neck out.
I hesitated before entering this subject because I  admire the determination of each involved in this just cause, I am not trying to put a damper on anyones efforts.
 - The power has manipulated this goverment for decades, battalions of these freaks have worked tirelessly 24 hours a day to insure their plan is not interfered with and to reach its conclusion, the takedown of this nation, the enslavement of the citizenry.
Bush began the abomination as was his part in the elites plan, he was an actor, an on stage sociopath playing his part. -Along came obama, the savior, his 580 promises to the citizenry, the change.
This regime is a barrell of worms, replace Oby and another maggot steps in.
Yes, I would love to see him ousted, the truth be know to the people as to his criminal, unconstitutional presidency. I too admit this act would cause the eyes to open of the masses and perhaps open a door to clean up other factions who were involved.
OK, I'm with you, but if in fact he was tossed, what  then?


This is  a common argument given by many in the Patriot movement. What this argument fails to take into account is:
Exposing Obama's true history/nationality/birth/etc., would expose the NWO agenda with him as an agent, how the Constitution is being violated, and in the process expose many who are in on this cover-up. It would also show those that voted for Obama to what extent they were duped. This action would reveal the Democrats as worse than the Republicans (if that is possible) and send a tremor all the way to the City of London Bankers.

For the first time a third party candidate would get some traction with the (sh)people: Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinney-whoever, with both the Republicans being disgraced from Bush's reign and then the Democrat Leaders being exposed as traitors to our Constitution--the jig would be up, it would be all over the internet. I don't think Biden or Clinton would jump into the oval office in that storm. The MSM shills would go into high speed spin making it even more obvious the truth/Constitution is being trampled and a larger number of peeps would wake up and smell the coffee.

This exposure of Obama's records is the last thing the ruling elite want and why Obama has a *special office in the White devoted just to quashing the Birther issue--paid for with our tax dollars.


Here is Rev. Manning with some interesting background on Obama's CIA work--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WedxY61d60
 

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: chris jones on March 18, 2010, 02:31:30 pm
This is  a common argument given by many in the Patriot movement. What this argument fails to take into account is:
Exposing Obama's true history/nationality/birth/etc., would expose the NWO agenda with him as an agent, how the Constitution is being violated, and in the process expose many who are in on this cover-up. It would also show those that voted for Obama to what extent they were duped. This action would reveal the Democrats as worse than the Republicans (if that is possible) and send a tremor all the way to the City of London Bankers.

For the first time a third party candidate would get some traction with the (sh)people: Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinney-whoever, with both the Republicans being disgraced from Bush's reign and then the Democrat Leaders being exposed as traitors to our Constitution--the jig would be up, it would be all over the internet. I don't think Biden or Clinton would jump into the oval office in that storm. The MSM shills would go into high speed spin making it even more obvious the truth/Constitution is being trampled and a larger number of peeps would wake up and smell the coffee.

This exposure of Obama's records is the last thing the ruling elite want and why Obama has a *special office in the White devoted just to quashing the Birther issue--paid for with our tax dollars.


Here is Rev. Manning with some interesting background on Obama's CIA work--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WedxY61d60
 


Hi Protean. Thanks for the reply, and Rev Mannings you tube, appreciated, and I agree:
Yes, I would love to see him ousted, the truth be known to the people as to his criminal, unconstitutional presidency. I too admit this act would cause the eyes to open of the masses and perhaps open a door to clean up other factions who were involved.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 19, 2010, 10:25:39 am
Hi Protean. Thanks for the reply, and Rev Mannings you tube, appreciated, and I agree:
Yes, I would love to see him ousted, the truth be known to the people as to his criminal, unconstitutional presidency. I too admit this act would cause the eyes to open of the masses and perhaps open a door to clean up other factions who were involved.


Thanks Chris, for understanding the importance.
As the Casablanca character Victor Laszlo  (Paul Henreid) said to Rick (Humphrey Bogart)--
"Welcome back to the fight. This time I know our side will win."

(http://www.urbannebula.nl/media/image/small/YouTubeCasablancaEnding.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 19, 2010, 10:32:16 am
An article about the multiple SS#s of Mr. Obama--

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=3255

The Mystery of Barack Obama Continues

By Steve Baldwin, Exclusive to Western Center for Journalism

Most Americans don’t realize we have elected a president whom we know very little about.

Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record. This should concern all Americans.

A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this?

The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.

What is he hiding? Well, for starters, some of these records will shed light on his citizenship and birth.

For example, Obama’s application to Punahou School – now mysteriously missing – would likely contain a birth certificate. And, according to attorney Gary Kreep, “his Occidental College records are important as they may show he attended there as a foreign exchange student.” Indeed, Obama used his Indonesian name “Barry Soetoro” while attending Occidental. Kreep has filed lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility to be president and as part of his lawsuit he requested Obama’s records from Occidental. However, Obama’s lawyers quickly moved to stop Occidental from honoring this request.
Furthermore, now that at least three document authentication experts have declared the scanned “Certificate of Live Birth” Obama’s campaign team gave to a pro-Obama website to be an obvious phony; we know that he is hiding something here as well.

Over 49 separate law suits have been filed on the eligibility/birth certificate issue alone, with several of the suits making it all the way the United States Supreme Court, only to be denied a full hearing.

What’s more, there are questions about how he paid for his Harvard Law School education since, despite a claim by Michele Obama, no one has produced any evidence that he received student loans. The Obamas will not release any student loan details despite repeated requests from the Chicago Tribune. However, it appears that his Harvard education may have been paid for by a foreign source. Khalid Al-Mansour, an advisor to Saudi prince Al-Walid bin Talah, told Manhattan Borough president, Percy Sutton, that he was raising money for Obama’s Harvard tuition. Incidentally, Prince Tala is the largest donor to CAIR, a Muslim group declared by the U.S. Government in 2007 as an unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorist financing trial. At least three of CAIR’s leaders have been indicted for terrorist activities. Al-Mansour’s admission opens up speculation as to whether Muslim interests have assisted Obama’s career in the hope he would eventually be in a position someday to promote their interests.

More recently, it was discovered that Obama’s Selective Service card may have been doctored. Federal law requires all American males to register for the Selective Service (the draft) in case a major war broke out.  Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older. Indeed, the forgers forgot to alter the “Document Location Number” which shows that it is clearly a 2008 form. This is fraud and it’s a felony and Schlussel allegations are backed up by Stephen Coffman, a former high-ranking Federal agent. Moreover, the document shows a September 4th, 1980 date and the location of the transaction as Hawaii, but at that time Obama was thousands of miles away attending Occidental College in Los Angeles.

Pictured: Barack Obama’s 2008 Selective Service Card. “Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older.”

(http://www.westernjournalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ObamaSelectiveServiceRegistration.jpg)

The real reason why Obama probably did not submit this form as a teenager is that he assumed his Kenyan or Indonesian citizenship exempted him from this requirement. But clearly, as he grew older and entered politics, he saw that any documents revealing a foreign birth – Selective Service registration, birth certificate, school applications, etc – would be problematic if he ran for the presidency. Thus, it is not a coincidence that every document which contains information about his birth or citizenship is either missing, sealed, or has been altered.

Indeed, everywhere one looks into Obama’s background, we find sealed records, scrubbed websites, altered documents, deception and unanswered questions. Can anyone imagine for a second if John McCain or George Bush had blocked access to his school, medical, and birth records?  It would have been headlines but as with everything else concerning Obama, the media has given him a pass on this.

Of all these marvels, the latest mystery and probably most perplexing is that of Obama’s social security number. It appears that Obama has multiple identities in term of possessing numerous social security numbers. Orly Taitz, an attorney who has filed numerous suits against Obama regarding his eligibility to serve as president, appears to be the first to discover this. In her suit, representing a number of military officers who are refusing to serve under an ineligible commander in chief, she hired private investigator Neil Sankey to conduct research on Obama’s prior addresses and Social Society numbers. Using Intelius, Lexis Nexis, Choice Point and other public records, Sankey found around 25 Social Security numbers connected with Obama’s name.

However, it may not be as many as 25, since Sankey also searched using closely related names such as:  “Barak Obama,” “Batock Obama,” “Barok Obama,” and “Barrack Obama.” There may very well be some Kenyans living in America with the same last name and a similar first name. In any case, I will exclude these records for the purpose of this research and focus only on names spelled exactly like his name. Moreover, we can verify many of the Social Security numbers as valid since they’re connected to addresses at which we know Obama resided. Needless to say, there are also a slew of address and social security numbers connected to addresses in states that Obama has no known connection to.

In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042 and one starting 364.

In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999.

There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.

In Massachusetts – where Obama attended Harvard Law School – we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office.  This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in 2008.

This mystery grows even stranger as other addresses and Social Security numbers for Barack Obama appear in a dozen other states not known to be connected to him. Again, I am excluding those records names not spelled exactly like his name.

Tennessee, one address with a Social Security number beginning with 427

Colorado, one address, with a Social Security number beginning with 456.

Utah, two addresses, with two Social Security numbers beginning with 901 and 799.

Missouri has one address and one Social Security number beginning with 999.

Florida has two addresses listed for his him, three if you count one listed as “Barry Obama.” One is connected to a Social Security number beginning with 762.

In Georgia there are three addresses listed for him, all with different Social Security numbers:   579, 420, and 423.

In Texas there are four different addresses listed for him, one is connected to Social Security number 675.

There are two addresses listed for Barack Obama in Oregon and one address listed for him in
the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania.

All told, there are 49 addresses and 16 different Social Security numbers listed for a person whose name is spelled “Barack Obama.” In some cases, the middle initial “H” is listed. If you were to expand the search to include closely related names such as: “Barac,” “Barak,” and “Barrack” Obama, you would find more than a dozen additional addresses and Social Security numbers.

Finally, the one Social Security number Obama most frequently used, the one beginning with 042, is a number issued in Connecticut sometime during 1976-1977, yet there is no record of Obama ever living or working in Connecticut. Indeed, during this time period Obama would have been 15-16 years old and living in Hawaii at the time.


Nevertheless, all this mystery surrounding Obama appears to be a generational thing.  Researchers have discovered nearly a dozen aliases, at least two different Social Security numbers, and upwards of over 99 separate addresses for Ann Dunham, his mother. We do know she worked for the ultra liberal Ford Foundation but we also know she may have earned some income from pornographic poses, as evidenced by photos recently discovered by some researchers—how embarrassing. The only thing researchers are able to find out about Obama’s mother is the fact she made porn. I’m sure that’s a first for presidential mothers.

But we also know that Obama’s mother and grandparents associated with Communist Party  leaders such as Frank Marshall Davis, a man who, according to Obama’s book, Dreams from my Father, was his main mentor during much of his Hawaiian boyhood (although Obama tried to disguise his identity in his book). During the Cold War, Davis was named by congressional investigators as a key member of a secretive pro-Soviet networked that existed in Hawaii at that time.

The lack of documents regarding Obama also extends to his mother and to his grandparents. Indeed, researchers have been unable to find marriage licenses for his mother’s two marriages, assuming she was ever legally married. Ditto goes for the marriage license for Ann’s parents. They cannot find birth certificates for her, her parents, or for even for her grandparents. Even more so, despite Obama’s boast of his grandfather’s military service, there’s no record of that either. For reasons no one knows, much of Obama’s life, his mother’s life and his grandparent’s life has been erased from the records as if they never existed.

But why would someone obtain so many Social Security numbers? According to investigators, those who create additional Social Society numbers are typically engaged in criminal activities such as Social Security fraud, tax fraud, real estate fraud, campaign contributions fraud, voter fraud and so on. While the private investigator who compiled this list says multiple social security numbers does not automatically prove there’s criminal activity involved, he states that “having said that, I have personally experienced many, many cases where such information has led to subsequent exposure of fraud, deception, money laundering and other crimes.“What is interesting to note is that Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: chris jones on March 19, 2010, 04:53:27 pm

That says it all, he had power behind him doing his cover. he still does, though much more.

Amazing, he couldn't get a job that required a security clearence if he was a commoner, yet here is  the Prez. Confirms the fact the elites have had him under their wing for some time. Profiled him, mentored, tutored and handed him a script.
How many fed agencys were told to keep their noses out of this fakes background? Yes, this is crucial , a can of worms.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 20, 2010, 06:16:11 am
First response received from Hawaii Petition Campaign

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/18/first-response-received-from-hawaii-petition-campaign/



Hawaii Law Makers Contemplating Stopping Concerned Americans from Investigating Whether Obama Was Born There
 
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/hawaii-law-makers-contemplating.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 21, 2010, 03:16:14 am
Birther Of A Candidate

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35957815#35957815
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 21, 2010, 03:45:08 am
Orly v Obama – Docket

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/03/20/orly-v-obama-docket-3/

Orly v Obama – Orly makes another mistake?

12.Plaintiff has suffered severe mental anguish and distress and financial damages as a result directly attributable to the Plaintiff’s conduct and actions.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/03/20/orly-v-obama-orly-admits/#comments



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 23, 2010, 03:29:41 am
Man in Florida has filed a document charging Barack Obama with Treason.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/22/citizen-charges-obama-with-treason/

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/21/obamas-forged-certification-of-live-birth-the-evidence/


American Grand Jury Press Release: What are we going to do?

http://americangrandjury.org/american-grand-jury-press-release-what-are-we-going-to-do

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 24, 2010, 10:58:46 am
http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/

Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

ADMISSION MADE TO MARINE, TESTIMONY PUBLISHED ON-LINE

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 A.D.

by John Charlton

(http://www.thepostemail.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RaceBannon-300x295.jpg)
"Race Bannon," U.S. Marine who heard Obama's "confession."

(Dec. 3, 2009) — The stunning admission was made to a member of the U.S. Marine Corps, in a chance meeting in the vicinity of Kalakaua Blvd., one evening in early August of 1980.

The now, former Marine is a highly respected member of the Free-Republic online-community, and he has published the account of his personal meeting with the then Barry Soetero online at the Gathering of the Eagles Blog. After the divorce of Barry’s mother from his adopted father, Lolo Soetero, he began using the name “Barack Hussein Obama,” by which he is known the world over, today. At the Free Republic, the ex-Marine goes by the nik “Race Bannon.”

The crucial part of his testimony regards what he writes in his essay, “Another crappy day in paradise, or The things you see when you ain’t got a gun.” Speaking of his encounter with Soetero, Bannon writes:

    He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there.” I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay. But it was what I did after that makes this a true memory:  I went back to the barracks and told others of this guy and suggested we all grab our photo albums and visit him again and show him pictures of Mombassa so he could see where he was from.

    No one wanted to go, and at that time, my camera had failed me weeks before we hit Mombassa and it was late August or early September until I had borrowed someone else’s pictures to develop myself so I had copies of where I was.  But I never forgot meeting that man for those reasons. I  was going to do him a favor and show him his home country of birth. And I never went back for some reason, most likely I forgot to or just felt that a one time chance encounter would be meaningless to both of us and didn’t mean we were friends.

Bannon then closes his testimonial with the following observation:

    In the light of what is called “The Birther” movement, these memories are still foremost in my mind concerning this. While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama, all the details I do remember of that chance encounter fit the profile of the man who some people claim is born in Kenya and others claim he was born in Hawaii . The man I met was about 18, thin, Mulatto, told me he was born in Mombassa, raised overseas, was living in Hawaii and hadn’t yet been to many places in the world outside of those places, mostly, hadn’t been to the mainland of America for any long time period if at all. And he openly told me he wanted to be President.

    And I remember that face, the face of a young man who sat on a table to my right front, his hands resting on the edge of the table, him leaning forward, his smile, all teeth. It was Barak Obama. I don’t know if I’d bet my life on it, but I am willing to tell people openly at the risk of my ridicule. I was there, and saw him, spoke to him, and he openly told me he was born in Mombassa, Kenya, not Hawaii .

    Does it matter? Of course it does. It should not have to be explained as to why it matters.

Race Bannon’s testimony is corroborative of that of two witnesses to the uncut version of the Obama vs. Keyes Senatorial Debates of 2004.  The first and second testimonials of which can bre read at The Post & Email.  Five African News Agencies also reported that Obama was born in Kenya.

A discussion of Bannon’s testimony can be found at Free Republic, repleate with comments by the Marine himself and other photos of himself, from his time in the U.S. Marines.

Finally, The Post & Email has employed the modern spelling of Mombasa; but Bannon has used the former spelling.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 25, 2010, 04:35:35 am
open letter to Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli asking him why he is going the expensive route of a lawsuit challenging the recently passed Healthcare bill.

http://www.t-room.us/



Arkansas Birther Candidate For US Senate

One reason that Republicans are happy to have recruited Rep. John Boozman (R-Ark.) to run against Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) — the odds of a primary win by Republican Curtis Coleman have declined considerably. Coleman talks to the Tolbert Report blog:

Absolutely, the President must produce his birth certificate. I will find out what steps are available to require him to do so, and will take those steps aggressively and unrelentingly. I don’t know where the President was born, which is a matter of immense concern and Constitutional issue for all Americans. If he has nothing of consequence to hide, then there’s no acceptable reason not to have full disclosure.

The “I don’t know where the president was born” part prevents this one from being a case of a candidate just slipping up.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8698


Orly Taitz wasting no time, I hope the States well KEEP HER out of this, becuse they let her on it, it well back fire on them.

Taitz Challenges Constitutionality Of Health Reform: It Blocks My Right To Practice Dentistry

joining a distinguished group of state attorneys general in challenging the constitutionality of the health reform legislation, now comes Orly Taitz, who in a new federal court filing argues that the bill violates her "right" to practice dentistry.

Along with her lawyerly pursuits, Taitz operates a dental office in Rancho Santa Margarita, California.

The challenge comes in the form of an amended complaint in a Birther case in district court in Washington, Taitz v. Obama, that challenges the president's citizenship.

Along with raising the specter of death panels and charging that Obama, as an illegitimate president, does not have the right to sign the health bill into law, Taitz writes in the new section of the complaint, titled, "VIOLATION OF COMMERCE CLAUSE AND OF PLAINTIFF'S RIGHTS TO GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT AS A DOCTOR OF DENTAL SURGERY UPON DEFENDANT'S IMMINENT SIGHNING OF THE HEALTH BILL":

"Health bill, as being prepared and reconciled, will create an enormous machine of governmental burocracy which will intrude into Plaintiff's practice, will affect her doctor-patient relations, will undermine her Hippocratic oath, will force her to ration medical care and de-facto deny medical care to elderly, whom some committees of burocrats will deem to be too old to receive such care, meaning too old to live." (Typos in original.)

She adds:

"Such bill will subject her to threat of multiple Medical-Dental malpractice legal actions as standard of care will clearly go down.

Such bill will constitute unreasonable infringement upon her gainful employment in Dental Surgery as overburdening of interstate commerce in clear violation of commerce clause."

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8675



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 27, 2010, 05:47:40 am
Letter to House Minority Leader John Boehner

http://americangrandjury.org/letter-to-house-minority-leader-john-boehner

http://americangrandjury.org/open-letter-to-kenneth-t-cuccinelli-ii-attorney-general-of-virginia


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 28, 2010, 01:04:29 pm

Phil Berg's BIRTH CERTIFICATE MARCH ON WASHINGTON

Phil was on Webster Tarpley's latest show (he is usually on at the start of the second hour every week.)

Phil sounds excited, the response to his March in D.C. is picking up speed fast from all over the country.
Podcast download
http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/world_crisis/0327102.mp3

http://obamacrimes.com/?p=673

Philip J. Berg, Esquire

555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12

Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL  [7445]

Fax (610) 834-7659

[email protected]

Berg Announces
“Birth Certificate March on Washington”
to Demand Obama Resign
as Obama is not
“Constitutionally qualified”
to be President

(Lafayette Hill, PA – 02/03/10) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the first Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States announces “Birth Certificate March on Washington” demanding Obama resign as President as he is “Constitutionally ineligible” to be President.

Berg is requesting all citizens of the United States to email, fax or mail a “copy” of their Birth Certificate that will be presented to Obama demanding that Obama resign because he has failed to produce his long form [vault] Birth Certificate to show he is “Constitutionally eligible” to be President.

Berg related an email he received.  A woman from Texas told me she registered her thirteen [13] year old nephew for school.  When registration was finished, her nephew asked the Principal, “Can I ask you a question?”  The Principal said, “Yes.”  Her nephew said, “How come I had to show my Birth Certificate to register for school, but Obama did not have to show his to be President ?”

Berg said, “That email motivated me to continue to expose Obama for the fraud he is !”

Berg continued, “Since the Courts are taking their time to get to the point of allowing ‘Discovery,’ it is time to motivate the citizens of the United States for a ‘Peaceful Revolution’ to expose the ‘HOAX’ of Obama, the biggest ‘HOAX’ in the history of our country, in over 230 years !”

Berg wants people to email, fax or mail a copy of Their Birth Certificate to:

Email = [email protected]

Fax      = (610) 834-7659

Mail    =  Obamacrimes
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531

Berg said, “Then, we will be preparing them to deliver to Obama demanding that he resign from the Office of President as he has not proven that he is “Constitutionally eligible” to be President and   that Obama has not produced legal documents to show he legally changed his name from his ‘adopted’ name of ‘Barry Soetoro’ from Indonesia.

I am proceeding for the 305 + million people in ‘our’ U.S.A., for ‘our’ forefathers and for the 3.2 million men and women that have died and/or been maimed defending our Constitution with our ‘Peaceful Revolution’ to prove that Obama is not Constitutionally qualified/eligible to be President.”

Berg continued, “I still have cases pending in the Federal Courts.  Go to obamacrimes.com to see the status of each case.”

For copies of all Press Releases and Court Pleadings, go to:

http://obamacrimes.com
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: g1rlg0ne on March 28, 2010, 01:10:06 pm
Somehow I get a bad feeling about people handing their BCs over to Obama.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 28, 2010, 01:11:22 pm
Photoshop fun or ???

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nlZ7aIw2FlM/S3W-AChPRVI/AAAAAAAAC0o/yEyZoIstLgE/s1600/k.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 29, 2010, 11:59:06 pm
Photoshop fun or ???

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nlZ7aIw2FlM/S3W-AChPRVI/AAAAAAAAC0o/yEyZoIstLgE/s1600/k.jpg)
Thats a Photoshop image from some one poking fun at the all thing. The Real sing is nearly the same, just with out the birth place of Obama.


HI AG denies having information supporting Department of Health claim

ATTORNEY GENERAL MARK BENNETT’S OFFICE SAYS THEY HAVE “NO GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO THE PREPARATION OF THE PUBLIC STATEMENTS MADE BY DR. FUKINO”

The Post & Email is in receipt of a letter signed by Jill T. Nagamine, Deputy Attorney General of the State of Hawaii, which affirms her email early last month to our Editor-in-Chief, Mr. John Charlton, stating that her office will not or cannot corroborate any of the Department of Health’s public statements regarding the alleged birth of Barack Hussein Obama in Hawaii.

Ms. Nagamine’s March 19, 2010 formal letter was sent in response to the Hawaii Petition Campaign’s request for Hawaii officials to release Obama’s birth records and proof that he is a “natural born Citizen” as required for the office of President by Article II, Section 1, paragraph 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

On July 27, 2009, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, issued a public statement which declared that Obama was “born in Hawai’i” and a “natural-born American citizen.”  She did not expound on how she arrived at her conclusions.  An earlier statement made on October 31, 2008 was less specific, claiming  only that Fukino had seen Obama’s vital records on file with her department.

The office of the attorney general has now contradicted in a formal letter the content of an email sent  by Janice Okubo, Public Information Officer at the Hawaii Department of Health,  in which she responded to a student researcher that the attorney general, Mark Bennett, “had reviewed and approved” Dr. Fukino’s July 27 statement:

    From: Justin Riggs [email address redacted]
    Date: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:03 PM
    To: …[email protected], [redacted other recipient]

    …Ms. Okubo,

    I am currently a masters degree candidate at …

    The reason that I am contacting your organizations is that you are, as far as I can tell from my research, the only two groups that have openly stated that President Obama is a natural born citizen (one of the Article II, Section I qualifications for being President). I would like to document how you came to that conclusion: i.e. what the criteria is for your organization, what evidence the candidate provides, etc.  I thank you for your time, and look forward to receiving a response in the near future.

    Sincerely,

    Justin W. Riggs

    Janice Okubo responded later that day:

    From: Okubo, Janice S.. <[email protected]>
    Date: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:20 PM
    To: Justin Riggs [email address redacted]…

    Aloha Justin,

    The statement was reviewed and approved by our Attorney General Mark Bennett. I am unable to provide further comment.

    Janice Okubo
    Communications Office
    Hawaii State Department of Health…

Hawaii UIPA law requires that state officials and agencies must make information available to the public which is used to formulate public statements and opinions.  However, despite many requests for the “index data” relied upon to prepare Dr. Fukino’s statements, no information has been forthcoming from anyone at the Hawaii Department of Health.  The very limited index data released by Dr. Fukino on the Health Department’s website does not contain enough information to substantiate Fukino’s claim that Obama is a “natural-born American citizen.”

The Post & Email reported the initial email exchange between Ms. Nagamine and Mr. Charlton on February 2, 2010.

As the attorney general claims it has “no government documents pertaining to the preparation of the public statements made by Dr. Fukino in regard to vital records which pertain to Barack Hussein Obama II,” then either the attorney general is lying and breaking the law, or Dr. Fukino and Janice Okubo are.

Why are Fukino and Okubo the only ones talking?  And why does Fukino “strongly support” SB2937, which, although recommended to be “deferred” on March 16, 2010, is now headed towards passage to block requests made under the state’s own UIPA law?

To what lengths are Okubo and Fukino willing to go to protect Obama?  Why are they doing it, and what do they expect to gain from it?  What do they fear they will lose if they do not continue their charade?

There is no one else in Hawaii claiming that Obama was born there.  No other public official will confirm it.  The birthplace of past presidents has always been common knowledge which becomes part of our nation’s history and our children’s textbooks.  Why, then, the secrecy?  What is it that Obama is going to extraordinary lengths to hide?

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/28/hi-ag-denies-having-information-supporting-department-of-health-claim/




Nevada Gov Candidate Demands Governor Gibbons Investigate & File Quo Warranto Against Obama. Tea Party Leaders Making Huge Mistake!

Nevada gubernatorial candidate, decorated Navy veteran, Gino DiSimone, demands Governor Gibbons immediately take action and investigate Obama's CONSTITUTIONAL eligibility & file a Writ of Quo Warranto against Obama

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/nevada-gov-candidate-demands-governor.html


Obamacare and the Natural Born Citizen Clause

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/03/obamacare-and-natural-born-citizen.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 31, 2010, 11:54:20 am
New video from James David Manning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRetvwtJDOo&feature=player_embedded


Army Officer Seeks Truth About Obama’s Eligibility to Serve in Oval Office, Invites Own Court-Martial

In a news release today, Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin said he is wiling to risk a court-martial in order if that’s what it takes to determine whether or not President Barack Obama is eligible to serve as president of the United States.  Not your average officer, Colonel Lakin is the lead flight surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff General George W. Casey’s pilots and air crew.

http://bobmccarty.com/2010/03/30/army-officer-seeks-truth-about-obamas-eligibility-to-serve-in-oval-office-invites-own-court-martial/



California 'had duty' to examine Obama eligibility Keyes' brief cites Supreme Court determination candidates can be removed from ballot

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=133937



Nathan Deal Had Quite The Deal

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8903



Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq., dragged Judge Lamberth of the US District Court for the District of Columbia into the State Attorneys General lawsuit against the new health care reform law, filed in a Florida federal district, she may have given him some unwelcome or improper jurisdictional sorting out to do.

she is now making a motion to the Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation in a further attempt to force her Birfer case to merge with the State AGs’ health care case; this motion does not appear on PACER, as of this morning, but on her web site* yesterday:

Taitz is venturing into new territory. She will be dealing not only with U.S. Government attorneys, who to date have cut her a lot of slack, but also with the attorneys general of at least 10-13 states (depending on how many state AsG are required to withdraw from the litigation by their governors) in Florida. These AsG are in this for political reasons, just like Taitz. But I doubt they will want a usurper (Taitz) to be running their case, or even be associated with it. They will know total incompetence when they see it.

So, it will be interesting to track Taitz’s latest. I doubt she will succeed, although I am sure other challenges will be consolidated. The cases will probably all be sent to Florida where the first real case was filed.

(It didn’t take long for her to figure out she had not followed the rules. The motion on her website, assuming it was actually filed, is short and sweet. In fact, probably too short. And unsupported. Unless there really is an attached brief. I, for one, sure hope there is an attached brief. And that it’s the usual prolix crazy. But I can’t find it anywhere.)

There has to be “one or more common questions of fact.” (Any argument made by Taitz in her accompanying brief — if she filed one — to the effect that Obama is not eligible, will cut against the requirement that the cases present common questions of fact. Taitz’s primary opposition to HCR is that Obama is a usurper. The “facts” constituting that position are generally irrelevant to the challenge made in the Florida action. It will be interesting to see if Taitz can file something relevant without mentioning usurpation. I, for one, tend to doubt it.)

The Panel has to determine that transfer will “promote the just and efficient conduct of the actions” and “be for the convenience of parties and witnesses.”

If transfer is granted, the panel may separate any claims and remand them (to the non-transferee court). Since none of Taitz’s quo warranto claims are relevant to the issue raised by the 13 attorneys general in their Florida action, Taitz could see part of her case transferred (assuming the panel can sort through the mess of her pleadings — which will not be easy) and part remaining before Judge Lamberth.

Under the rules (but we are looking at the statute here, not the rules), the trial judge retains full control over the case until and unless it is transferred.

The law also states:

The panel shall give notice to the parties in all actions in which transfers for coordinated or consolidated pretrial proceedings are contemplated, and such notice shall specify the time and place of any hearing to determine whether such transfer shall be made.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8827


Attorney Orly Taitz files motion to have her Quo Warranto lawsuit consolidated with the 13 State health care lawsuit in the District of Columbia.

Orly Taitz is arguing the health care bill(law) is unconstitutional because Obama was not constitutionally eligible to sign it.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/orly-taitz-files-motion-to-have-her-quo.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: oyashango on March 31, 2010, 02:06:53 pm
I was watching a women on CNN concering Obama's BC. She said something so simple that never ocurred to me. She said:

"I travel alot with my children to show them historic landmarks. We are planning a trip to Hawaii. If I wanted to show her Obama's house where he grew-up, where would I take her? Surely he had to have lived somehwere immediately after he was born. Where is the house?"

The statement speaks for itself.



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 02, 2010, 08:31:46 pm
Commander Fitzpatrick was arrested outside the Monroe County Courthouse.

A Madisonville man who attempted a citizen's arrest of the grand jury foreman instead got himself arrested by Madisonville Police.

Walter Francis Fitzpatrick III stands charged with disorderly conduct, inciting to riot, disrupting a meeting, and resisting arrest.

Madisonville Police Chief Greg Breeden said officers were called to the court around 10 Thursday morning.

Breeden said Fitzpatrick was trying to arrest grand jury foreman Gary Pettway. Fitzpatrick's reasons for allegedly doing so are not clear.

He has previously tried to get the Monroe County grand jury to indict President Barack Obama for treason.

Breeden said when officers from the police department and the Monroe County Sheriff's Department tried to escort Fitzpatrick from the building, an altercation occurred

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=117593&provider=top


http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/01/citizen-arrested-for-trying-to-expose-government-corruption/



Here is video of the arrest yesterday of Walter Fitzpatrick in Madisonville, Tennessee, who, along with Carl Swensson and a few others from the American Grand Jury, attempted a citizen’s arrest of a real grand jury foreman.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9005


Kerchner v Obama – Appeal – Letter to Mertis Panel

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/kerchner-v-obama-appeal-letter-to-mertis-panel/



Orly giving advice to Lt C Terry Lakin

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/orly-giving-advice-to-lt-c-terry-lakin/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 02, 2010, 08:47:41 pm
Bruce Olsen Libertarian Candidate for Governor Arizona demands proof of Obama’s Eligibility

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/31/arizona-gubernatorial-candidate-demands-proof-of-obamas-eligibility/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 02, 2010, 08:55:42 pm
Quote

Quote from: chris jones on March 18, 2010, 10:42:23 AM
You folks have done a great deal of work on this issue, I am impressed and respect your determination.

First, I have no doubt whatsoever Obmama is illegal. I am with you folks on that 100%, my take is he is a product of the elites, has been trained, nurtured, and set in place with an agenda, a script in hand and a platoon of overseers to protect his background and to insure he can not be touched.
He is a elite con artist under deep cover, a sleeper so to say.
Problem, if Mr. Obama is nailed on this and ousted, who will replace him. Biden,  Hillary, McCain.
Different face and same agenda.
Don't misunderstand, you fight is worthwhile, I commend the efforts of all involved, those who have  stuck their neck out.
I hesitated before entering this subject because I  admire the determination of each involved in this just cause, I am not trying to put a damper on anyone's efforts.
 - The power has manipulated this government for decades, battalions of these freaks have worked tirelessly 24 hours a day to insure their plan is not interfered with and to reach its conclusion, the take down of this nation, the enslavement of the citizenry.
Bush began the abomination as was his part in the elites plan, he was an actor, an on stage sociopath playing his part. -Along came obama, the savior, his 580 promises to the citizenry, the change.
This regime is a barrel of worms, replace Oby and another maggot steps in.
Yes, I would love to see him ousted, the truth be know to the people as to his criminal, unconstitutional presidency. I too admit this act would cause the eyes to open of the masses and perhaps open a door to clean up other factions who were involved.
OK, I'm with you, but if in fact he was tossed, what  then?

The point is that when Soetero passes legislation it is automatically invalid because he is not a natural born citizen.  This is showing what disregard the NWO and the Obamanoids have for America the US Constitution.  Once he is exposed then everyone else with a CFR membership gets exposed as a globalist traitor and then only true candidates can be elected.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 03, 2010, 09:44:25 am
LTC Lakin Could Face Dismissal

A “dismissal” for an officer is equal to a dishonorable discharge for enlisted personnel

An Army flight surgeon could face reprimand or dismissal from the service after stating in an online video that he’ll refuse deployment to Afghanistan because of concerns he has about President Barack Obama’s birth certificate.

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, chief of primary care for the Pentagon’s health clinic, released a statement through the American Patriot Foundation saying his decision is based on “pursuit of the truth about the president’s eligibility under the constitution to hold office.”

Army officials said Lakin has not yet violated any direct orders, but his statements have been brought to commanders’ attention for review.

“They have a wide range of options to consider — no action, administrative action, or even recommendation of dismissal,” Army spokesman George Wright said. “It’s for his command to determine.” …

Questions surrounding Obama’s birth certificate surfaced during the 2008 election, but were largely put to rest after Hawaii officials confirmed his American citizenship and the campaign released a copy of the document.

But over the last two years fringe groups have maintained public campaigns and court challenges in an attempt to prove Obama’s ineligibility to hold the presidency. Last summer, a Georgia court dismissed such arguments in a similar case by an Army major refusing deployment.

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=69120



Orly Taitz officially on the ballot,listed as a Republican candidate for Secretary of State

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2010-elections/june-2010/june-2010-candidates-short-list.pdf



Another Orly Fail…The District Attorney does not believe there are any good reasons to file charges.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/03/another-orly-fail/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 03, 2010, 12:30:28 pm
LTC Terry Lakin disobeys Military Deployment until Obama shows proof of U.S. Native Born Citizen status with his Long Form Birth Certificate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea9JVnck_-E
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 03, 2010, 02:17:03 pm
Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/

ADMISSION MADE TO MARINE, TESTIMONY PUBLISHED ON-LINE

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 A.D.

by John Charlton


"Race Bannon," U.S. Marine who heard Obama's "confession."

(Dec. 3, 2009) — The stunning admission was made to a member of the U.S. Marine Corps, in a chance meeting in the vicinity of Kalakaua Blvd., one evening in early August of 1980.

The now, former Marine is a highly respected member of the Free-Republic online-community, and he has published the account of his personal meeting with the then Barry Soetero online at the Gathering of the Eagles Blog. After the divorce of Barry’s mother from his adopted father, Lolo Soetero, he began using the name “Barack Hussein Obama,” by which he is known the world over, today. At the Free Republic, the ex-Marine goes by the nik “Race Bannon.”

The crucial part of his testimony regards what he writes in his essay, “Another crappy day in paradise, or The things you see when you ain’t got a gun.” Speaking of his encounter with Soetero, Bannon writes:

He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there.” I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay. But it was what I did after that makes this a true memory: I went back to the barracks and told others of this guy and suggested we all grab our photo albums and visit him again and show him pictures of Mombassa so he could see where he was from.

No one wanted to go, and at that time, my camera had failed me weeks before we hit Mombassa and it was late August or early September until I had borrowed someone else’s pictures to develop myself so I had copies of where I was. But I never forgot meeting that man for those reasons. I was going to do him a favor and show him his home country of birth. And I never went back for some reason, most likely I forgot to or just felt that a one time chance encounter would be meaningless to both of us and didn’t mean we were friends.

Bannon then closes his testimonial with the following observation:

In the light of what is called “The Birther” movement, these memories are still foremost in my mind concerning this. While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama, all the details I do remember of that chance encounter fit the profile of the man who some people claim is born in Kenya and others claim he was born in Hawaii . The man I met was about 18, thin, Mulatto, told me he was born in Mombassa, raised overseas, was living in Hawaii and hadn’t yet been to many places in the world outside of those places, mostly, hadn’t been to the mainland of America for any long time period if at all. And he openly told me he wanted to be President.

And I remember that face, the face of a young man who sat on a table to my right front, his hands resting on the edge of the table, him leaning forward, his smile, all teeth. It was Barak Obama. I don’t know if I’d bet my life on it, but I am willing to tell people openly at the risk of my ridicule. I was there, and saw him, spoke to him, and he openly told me he was born in Mombassa, Kenya, not Hawaii .

Does it matter? Of course it does. It should not have to be explained as to why it matters.

Race Bannon’s testimony is corroborative of that of two witnesses to the uncut version of the Obama vs. Keyes Senatorial Debates of 2004. The first and second testimonials of which can bre read at The Post & Email. Five African News Agencies also reported that Obama was born in Kenya.

A discussion of Bannon’s testimony can be found at Free Republic, repleate with comments by the Marine himself and other photos of himself, from his time in the U.S. Marines.

Finally, The Post & Email has employed the modern spelling of Mombasa; but Bannon has used the former spelling.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 04, 2010, 06:05:59 pm
US Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who plans to defy his chain of command and refuse orders to Afghanistan in a challenge to his President’s legitimacy as commander in chief, seems to have caught his own father by surprise:

Lakin’s father, Frank Lakin of Greeley, said he didn’t know enough about the situation to comment Thursday afternoon, but he did say his son’s video wasn’t representative of the family.

“This does not reflect the opinions or the attitude of the family by any means,” Frank Lakin said. “We’re Obama supporters.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9080



actual pictures of the documents which were filed with the Courthouse Clerk who filed them but refused to provide arrest warrants.

 Sweetwater man who disrupted the Monroe County grand jury Thursday is being held in the Monroe County Jail without bond because, according to jailers, he isn’t cooperating.

Walter Francis Fitzpatrick III, 58, Mayes Street, is only stating his last name and rank with the U.S. Navy.

Fitzpatrick is a former Navy lieutenant commander who moved to Sweetwater from California.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/fitzys-citizens-arrest-warrant/

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/fitzpatrick-held-without-bond/

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 04, 2010, 06:44:12 pm
Chicago Law School faculty hated Obama "because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool"

The smartest genius President evah is nothing more than a carboar

Turns out now that when he was an instructor at the Chicago, his colleagues who were actual Professors didn't like him and didn't want him. Obama's position was obtained through political channels.

http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2010/03/chicago-law-school-faculty-hated-obama.html


Support dwindles for bill limiting access to records

A move to limit access to public information for people who repeatedly ask for the same documents is moving to a joint House-Senate conference, but support appears to be waning.

The bill, Senate Bill 2937, was the idea of the state Health Department, which has to field daily questions about the birth certificate of President Barack Obama.

Conservative fringe groups on the mainland have bombarded the Health Department with requests for Obama's birth certificate, and when they are told that the document is private and not a public document, many attempt to sue, causing the state to repeatedly defend its position.

The Media Council of Hawaii protested the proposed bill, saying that it could be used to needlessly restrict public information.

In an attempt to compromise, Rep. Jon Riki Karamatsu, Judiciary Committee chairman, changed the bill to say that if a requester makes duplicative requests for what is substantially the same document and the agency already has answered, the state Office of Information Practices would be required to step in to examine the issue.

OIP could then decide that the agency need not make available the document or provide more than one response or set of government records to the requesting person.

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20100404_Support_dwindles_for_bill_limiting_access_to_records.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 04, 2010, 10:02:48 pm

Alex Jones - Phil Berg interview !!!

Obama's Birth Certificate Issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6laVQp3j3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkhqyRY2j4&feature=related

Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

Michelle Obama speaking at the LGBT Delegate (The World as it Should Be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug

Grandmother says Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 05, 2010, 03:25:05 am
Investigation reveals numerous bogus claims on Obama resume

http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m4d3-Investigation-reveals-numerous-bogus-claims-on-Obama-resume
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 06, 2010, 02:05:02 pm
Fitzpatrick got out of jail this morning at 10:30AM. There will be a hearing on April 20th. In the same courtroom the Judge sits in that broke the law, indicted by the same Grand Jury foreman and District Attorney that are certainly now aware (if not have always known) they are breaking the law by permitting Mr. Pettway to illegally sign the indictment.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/fitzy-released/


Rub a dub dub, how many IDs does one profile need?

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/03/rub-dub-dub-how-many-ids-does-one.html



Threatened with Court-Martial Officer questioning eligibility faces new threats from Army 'You could be sentenced to dismissal, confinement'

The Army is threatening to dismiss and jail an active-duty lieutenant colonel who says he won't obey military orders until he knows that President Obama is in the Oval Office as a constitutionally eligible president, according to his supporters.

A statement given to WND today by Margaret Hemenway, who is acting as a spokeswoman for the case involving the American Patriot Foundation and Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, said Lakin is "undaunted" and has not changed his position.

Lakin announced his position with a video stating he would not follow orders because he was not sure of their legality under Obama, who has concealed personal information that could confirm he meets the constitutional requirement that a president be a "natural born citizen."

WND reported earlier when the Army "unofficially" recommended a medical evaluation, which Lakin refused.

New strategy unveiled on answering Obama's eligibility questions. See how you can help.

Now, the Army has issued a "counseling form" warning Lakin his deployment orders are valid. The document has been posted on the Safeguard Our Constitution website, which is assembling support for the officer.

"On 30 March 2010, this command became aware of your intentions to refuse to follow deployment orders. Your stated reason for refusal was your belief that the election of the President of the United States is invalid because you believe he is not 'native born' [sic]. This counseling is to inform you that your deployment orders are presumed to be valid and lawful orders issued by competent military authority," said the document from the "counselor," Lt. Col. William D. Judd.

The letter reminded Lakin of his April 12 due date at Fort Campbell, Ky.

"Failure to follow your reassignment and/or deployment orders may result in adverse action including court-martial," the officer was warned.

The document cited articles 86, 87 and 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice: being missing, disobeying an order and contempt).

"If found guilty … you could be sentenced to dismissal from the service … forefeiture of all pay and allowances; and confinement for a period of months or years in a military prison," the warning stated.

The statement released by Hemenway noted Lakin is being supported by "hundreds" of people who have donated to his legal defense fund. He announced his refusal to obey orders after unsuccessfully following channels to get the same verification from the president that the officer has been required to provide throughout his 18-year military career.

The website also notes that the "counseling" document wasn't completely accurate. It's not "native-born" that is in question for Obama; it is the constitutionally mandated "natural born citizen."

Although the term is not defined in the Constitution, legal scholars believe it is best understood to mean a U.S. child of U.S. citizen parents.

WND has reported that the controversy raises the prospect that the government ultimately may not want to pursue a prosecution because a defense attorney could demand in court proof that the orders are issued by an eligible president.

Even participants in a forum on the left-leaning Huffington Post website seemed to agree in part.

"Freakin' Brilliant!" said one. "They can't court-martial him [without] the defense getting the judge to order the the (sic) birth-certificate be produced! Either Obama will have to produce or they can't prosecute. Genius."

As WND reported, Lakin is an active-duty flight surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey's pilots and air crew.

He said he's refusing all orders until Obama releases his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to prove his eligibility to serve as commander in chief.

"I feel I have no choice but the distasteful one of inviting my own court martial," Lakin said in a statement. "The Constitution matters. The truth matters."

He continued, "For the first time in all my years of service to our great nation, and at great peril to my career and future, I am choosing to disobey what I believe are illegal orders, including an order to deploy to Afghanistan for my second tour of duty there. I will disobey my orders to deploy because I – and I believe all servicemen and women and the American people – deserve the truth about President Obama's constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief.

"If he is ineligible, then my orders – and indeed all orders – are illegal because all orders have their origin with the commander in chief as handed down through the chain of command."

Lakin is not the first active-duty officer to raise the challenge. Others have included Army doctor Capt. Connie Rhodes and Army reservist Maj. Stefan Cook. But Lakin is the highest-ranking officer to raise the question.

In a statement last week to WND, George Wright of Army Public Affairs said the Army has "no reaction" to Lakin's statements, and "at this point, the Army will take no formal action."

He said, "Lt. Col. Lakin has stated his intent to violate Articles 87 and 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but has not done so. Whether his actions to date violate any law or policy is for his chain of command to determine."

Wright said the Army had no information on in-channel concerns Lakin reported raising twice during 2009. There was "no comment" from the Army on whether Obama needs to document his eligibility to serve as president under the U.S. Constitution's requirement that the commander in chief be a "natural born citizen."

One of the organizers behind the Safeguard Our Constitution website, serving in emeritus status, is John Hemenway, an attorney who previously fought in the U.S. court system on behalf of a retired military officer, Gregory S. Hollister, who also questioned Obama's eligibility.

The case ultimately was dismissed by Judge James Robertson who ruled that the dispute had been "twittered" during the 2008 election campaign.

In that opinion, Robertson sarcastically wrote: "The plaintiff says that he is a retired Air Force colonel who continues to owe fealty to his commander in chief (because he might possibly be recalled to duty) and who is tortured by uncertainty as to whether he would have to obey orders from Barack Obama because it has not been proven – to the colonel's satisfaction – that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen, qualified under the Constitution to be president.

"The issue of the president's citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America's vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama's two-year-campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court," Robertson wrote.

The judge also suggested sanctions against Hemenway for bringing the case, and Hemenway responded that process then would provide him with a right to a discovery hearing to see documentation regarding the judge's statements – not supported by any evidence introduced into the case – that Obama was properly "vetted."

Hemenway warned at the time, "If the court persists in pressing Rule 11 procedures against Hemenway, then Hemenway should be allowed all of the discovery pertinent to the procedures as court precedents have permitted in the past.

"The court has referred to a number of facts outside of the record of this particular case and, therefore, the undersigned is particularly entitled to a hearing to get the truth of those matters into the record. This may require the court to authorize some discovery," Hemenway said.

WND columnist Vox Day earlier wrote about this very scenario, calling it a "Get out of war" free card.

The comments followed the case of Cook, the reservist who challenged his deployment orders over questions about their legality under Obama.

"Rather than contesting the suit," Day wrote, "the Army took the highly peculiar step of revoking the major's deployment order, suggesting that the Pentagon generals are not entirely confident that they can demonstrate the legitimacy of their purported commander in chief.

"The Pentagon's decision to back down rather than risk exposing Obama's birth records to the public means that every single American soldier, sailor, pilot and Marine now holds a 'get out of war free' card. Not only every deployment order, but every order issued from an officer in the line of command can now be challenged in the knowledge that the top brass are afraid to respond for fear that their commander could be exposed for a fraud," he wrote at the time.

"It is one thing for Obama to deny the curiosity of the American public by hiding behind the courts. It is very much another for him to deny the right of the men and women of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines, who are sworn to risk their lives upholding the Constitution of the United States of America, to be certain their orders are legitimate," he said.

Margaret Hemenway, who writes for FamilySecurityMatters.org, said the case likely will be complicated.

In his video message now posted on YouTube, Lakin personally pleads with the president to stop withholding the key document which would put to rest many of the doubts that continue to linger more than a year into Obama's term.

"President Obama, I ask you to respect and uphold the Constitution. Be transparent and show your honesty and integrity. Release your original, signed birth certificate, if you have one, thus proving your birth on American soil, and thus assure the American people that you are lawfully eligible to hold the office of the presidency and serve as commander in chief of the Armed Forces."

Obama's actual response to those who question his eligibility to be president under the Constitution's requirement that the U.S. president be a "natural born citizen" has been to dispatch both private and tax-funded attorneys to prevent anyone from gaining access to his documentation.

Besides Obama's actual birth documentation, the still-concealed documentation for him includes kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

WND has reported on a multitude of cases that have been brought over the issue of Obama's eligibility. Some are by critics who have doubts about whether he was born in Hawaii in 1961 as he has written, and others are from those who question whether the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens – Obama's father was a subject of the British crown at Obama's birth – from being eligible for the office.

The issue has prompted a number of state legislatures to work on proposals that would require presidential candidates to submit proof of their eligibility. And a similar proposal has been introduced in Congress by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.

The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

However, none of the cases filed to date has been successful in reaching the plateau of legal discovery, so that information about Obama's birth could be obtained.

The White House has not replied to numerous requests for comment.

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/threatened-with-court-martial.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 06, 2010, 02:11:50 pm
Obama not the first to have Presidential Eligibility questioned

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/05/obama-not-the-first-to-have-presidential-eligibility-questioned/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 07, 2010, 03:14:32 pm
New strategy unveiled to force Obama on eligibility Petition calls on state election officials to verify qualifications in 2012

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=136589
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 07, 2010, 03:29:28 pm
What's the difference between "native-born" and "natural born"? Both court and the military used "native-born". The Constitution says "natural born", and that tells me that the government is making a legal play on words to attempt to fall back on later.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 08, 2010, 06:04:21 pm
In addition to Orly Taitz, we now have Paul Andrew Mitchell, self described Private Attorney General entering the arena of the Florida action against the Health Insurance Reform Law.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/florida-et-al-v-u-s-dhhs-et-al-updated-docket/


President Obama Needs to Prove His Constitutional Eligibility to Be Commander-in-Chief

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/president_obama_needs_to_prove_1.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 08, 2010, 06:55:38 pm
James David Manning, new video about Obama’s Spin Machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj28A3tOJMM&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 09, 2010, 01:42:17 pm
Orly Taitz files intervener motion to join health care lawsuit, Judge denies motion

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/09/orly-taitz-files-intervener-motion-to-join-health-care-lawsuit/


Did Hawaii have any records on Obama before 2006?

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/08/did-hawaii-have-any-records-on-obama-before-2006/



Terry Lakin's Letter to Obama

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/08/terry-lakin-letter-to-our-president/#more-9798

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 11, 2010, 04:02:48 pm
Texas Election Fraud Update: JUDGE ABBOTT WOULD ORDER TDP CHAIR BOYD RICHIE TO DECLARE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BARACK OBAMA IS INELIGIBLE FOR THE JOB

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/texas-election-fraud-update-judge.html



The Hawaii Department of Health’s latest excuse for non-release of Obama’s records

In her blog, Butterdezillion states that the Hawaii Department of Health has recently been using a new tactic to justify further restrictions on information that they will release. They ominously claim that they must “Glomarize” their responses if the mere act of confirming or denying the existence of a record would inadvertently release other “protected” information. This term was unfamiliar to me, so I did a little research and found the following link that may be of interest to you (for the term’s historical origins, Wikipedia “Glomar Explorer”).

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/10/the-hawaii-department-of-healths-latest-excuse-for-non-release-of-obamas-records/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 11, 2010, 08:01:38 pm
Complaints of 2008 Election Fraud Filed in Six States

With the inspiration and help of a legal blogger referred to as jbjd, citizens in Georgia, Hawaii, Maryland, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia have for many months been filing citizen complaints of election fraud with their state Attorneys General against Democratic Party officials. These states have election laws which explicitly require political party leaders to certify that electors or candidates are constitutionally eligible prior to placing candidates' names on the ballot.  Other states may have similar laws, so citizens in those states should begin investigating their laws to see if they can follow suit.

These citizen complaints of fraud do not argue whether Obama is, or is not, a natural born Citizen.  Rather, the complaints argue that Democratic Party leaders failed in their legal duty to ascertain the eligibility of Barack Obama before placing his name on the ballot.  Evidence of their failure to ascertain his eligibility is cited within each state's citizen complaint. Thus party leaders' signed and notarized certifications, stating Barack Obama is constitutionally eligible, are claimed to be fraudulent. 

These citizen complaints of election fraud put political party leaders on notice, because it means a growing number of citizens will be more vocal and more actively involved when the next presidential nomination process begins.  Furthermore, these citizen complaints should inspire all state legislators to amend their current laws, or write new laws to improve the process for placing names on the ballot.  Keep in mind, though, State legislators do not have the constitutional authority to define the meaning of the term "natural born Citizen".  That is not the purpose of these complaints.  However, legislators do have the authority to determine how a candidate or an elector's name gets onto a ballot. 

At the very least, these citizen complaints should make it difficult to place Barack Obama's name on the 2012 ballot.  At best, if one or more of the state Attorneys General will investigate these citizen complaints, jbjd argues that through a legal action called mandamus, party leaders who signed the certifications can be ordered to declare that Obama is ineligible to be placed on the ballot.

State Attorneys General have the discretion to respond to these citizen complaints, or to ignore them.  To date, none have opened an investigation.   However, if hundreds more citizens, or better yet, thousands more citizens were to download the citizen complaint forms for their respective states, add their name and address, and fax the forms to their Attorneys General, there would be a greater likelihood that one or more of the AGs would open an investigation.  Because this is a hot-button issue that AGs may be reluctant to investigate, they need to feel intense pressure from their constituents before they will respond.

http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/04/complaints-of-2008-election-fraud-filed.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 12, 2010, 12:54:20 am
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=139481

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Kenyan MP James Orengo

Kenyan official: Obama born here
In debate over constitution, minister urges African nation to emulate U.S. inclusion
Posted: April 11, 2010
6:22 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

A Kenyan lawmaker told the nation's parliament last month that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore "not even a native American."

During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, James Orengo, the country's minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America's election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:

"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation," Orengo posited, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?"

Orengo held up the U.S. as a country no longer "living in the past," since Americans elected a Kenyan-born president without regard to "ethnic consideration and objectives."

A new strategy has been unveiled to demand answers to Obama's eligibility questions. See how you can help.

Debate is then recorded in the Kenyan government's official March 25, 2010, hansard – a traditional name for printed transcripts of a parliamentary debate – as continuing with no other MPs mentioning or attempting to correct Orengo's comments about Obama.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=139481
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 12, 2010, 12:56:27 am
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=138293

NPR archive describes Obama as 'Kenyan-born'
Description accompanies interview about 'son of Africa'
Posted: April 08, 2010
11:30 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

Editor's Note: Shortly after this WND report was posted, NPR changed its web page to delete the reference to "Kenyan-born" Sen. Obama.

Those crazy "birthers" are citing National Public Radio.

Really? NPR?

Archives for the tax-supported organization reveal that a 2008 report described then-Sen. Barack Obama as "Kenyan-born"  and a "son of Africa."

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NPR's promotion for the story included a brief description of West African correspondent Ofeibea Quist-Arcton, who "describes the stories that have been exciting, including the U.S. presidential race of Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama."

After discussing various issues developing in Africa at the time – such as Kenya's violent elections, the attacks in Zimbabwe and the presidency of South Africa – the conversation on the program "Tell Me More" turned to Obama.

New strategy unveiled today on answering Obama's eligibility questions. See how you can help.

At about 9:45 of the audio report, interviewer Michelle Martin said "a son of Africa. Barack Obama is poised to at least have the opportunity to become the next president of the United States." She asked, "How does this campaign look overseas?"

Quist-Arcton responded by describing Obama as a member of the Kenyan Luo tribe and reporting how Africa viewed the race.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=138293
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 12, 2010, 04:48:03 pm
Related to the question of documentation on Obama.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/03/to-be-lawyer-or-not-to-be.html

To be (a lawyer) or not to be...

Is the President's resume accurate when it comes to his career and qualifications? I can corroborate that Obama's "teaching career" at Chicago was, to put it kindly, a sham.
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I spent some time with the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law a few months back, and he did not have many nice things to say about "Barry." Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn't even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. The Board told him he didn't have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor and was hardly an adjunct.

The other professors hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool. According to my professor friend, he had the lowest intellectual capacity in the building. He also doubted whether he was legitimately an editor on the Harvard Law Review, because if he was, he would be the first and only editor of an Ivy League law review to never be published while in school (publication is or was a requirement).

Consider this: 1. President Barack Obama, former editor of the Harvard Law Review, is no longer a "lawyer". He surrendered his license back in 2008 possibly to escape charges that he "fibbed" on his bar application.

2. Michelle Obama "voluntarily surrendered" her law license in 1993.

3. So, we have the President and First Lady - who don't actually have licenses to practice law. Facts.

4. A senior lecturer is one thing. A fully ranked law professor is another. According to the Chicago Sun-Times, "Obama did NOT 'hold the title' of a University of Chicago law school professor". Barack Obama was NOT a Constitutional Law professor at the University of Chicago.

5. The University of Chicago released a statement in March, 2008 saying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) "served as a professor" in the law school, but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed in 2008.

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6. "He did not hold the title of professor of law," said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an Assistant Dean for Communications and Lecturer in Law at the University of Chicago School of Law.

7. The former Constitutional senior lecturer cited the U.S. Constitution recently during his State of the Union Address. Unfortunately, the quote he cited was from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

8. The B-Cast posted the video.

9. In the State of the Union Address, President Obama said: "We find unity in our incredible diversity, drawing on the promise enshrined in ourConstitution: the notion that we are all created equal."

10. By the way, the promises are not a notion, our founders named them unalienable rights. The document is our Declaration of Independence and it reads: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

11. And this is the same guy who lectured the Supreme Court moments later in the same speech?

When you are a phony it's hard to keep facts straight.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/03/to-be-lawyer-or-not-to-be.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 12, 2010, 07:23:29 pm
An Army flight surgeon apparently is sticking to his vow not to deploy until he is satisfied that President Barack Obama is a “natural born” citizen.

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin did not report for duty at Fort Campbell, Ky. as ordered today, and a spokesman for the post said it’s not likely he will.

…Even if handed a general discharge under “other than honorable” conditions, the career officer stands to lose his military retirement benefits, the letter states.

The orders, Lakin was told, “are presumed to be valid and lawful orders issued by competent military authority.” The letter warned Lakin that not showing up at Campbell could result in his facing AWOL charges, as well as missing movement, willfully disobeying a lawful order and showing contempt toward officials. A conviction on any of the charges could mean a dishonorable discharge, imprisonment and loss of all pay and allowances.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/lakin-did-he-really/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 13, 2010, 02:37:45 pm
Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.


Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/lakin-you-have-the-right-to-remain-silent/



    


WND Exclusive FBI destroyed file on Obama's grandfather Dunham befriended communist Frank Marshall Davis, mentor of future president

n response to a Freedom of Information Act request, the FBI has formally acknowledged a file existed on President Barack Obama's grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham, that was destroyed May 1, 1997.

The FBI previously released some 600 pages of the FBI file of Frank Marshall Davis, the Chicago-based journalist and poet who as a member of the Communist Party USA retired in Hawaii and befriended Dunham.

Obama frequently sought advice from Davis during the future president's elementary and high school years.

Until the FBI's response to the FOIA request, there was no public disclosure of the existence of a file on Obama's grandfather.

The file raises the question whether the FBI considered Dunham to be a national security risk, possibly because of his association with Davis.

    


WND Exclusive
FBI destroyed file on Obama's grandfather
Dunham befriended communist Frank Marshall Davis, mentor of future president
Posted: April 12, 2010
4:51 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily


Frank Marshall Davis
In response to a Freedom of Information Act request, the FBI has formally acknowledged a file existed on President Barack Obama's grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham, that was destroyed May 1, 1997.

The FBI previously released some 600 pages of the FBI file of Frank Marshall Davis, the Chicago-based journalist and poet who as a member of the Communist Party USA retired in Hawaii and befriended Dunham.

Obama frequently sought advice from Davis during the future president's elementary and high school years.

See the movie Obama does not want you to see: Own the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential eligibility mystery!

Until the FBI's response to the FOIA request, there was no public disclosure of the existence of a file on Obama's grandfather.

The file raises the question whether the FBI considered Dunham to be a national security risk, possibly because of his association with Davis.

WND previously reported Davis, frequently accompanied by young Obama and his grandfather, sold marijuana and cocaine from a Chicago-style hot dog cart Davis operated near his home on Kuhio Avenue in Waikiki in the early 1970s.

(Story continues below)

       
   

Cliff Kincaid, president of American Survival, filed the FOIA request, only to be informed by David M. Hardy, FBI section chief for record/information dissemination in the records management division, that no information was available on Dunham's file because it had been destroyed. Kincaid is also editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report.

WND contacted the FBI but received no response to a request for comment on this story.

Grandpa introduced Obama to Davis

London Telegraph Washington correspondent Toby Harnden reported in an Aug. 22, 2008, article that Dunham first introduced Obama to Davis when Obama was only 10 years old.

As WND previously reported, the Obama 2008 campaign admitted in a published response to the New York Times No. 1 best-selling book "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality" that Davis was the "Frank" that Obama mentioned in his autobiography "Dreams from My Father."

The 2008 Obama campaign's published reply to "The Obama Nation," titled "Unfit for Publication," objected that Davis was not a "mentor" to the future president, arguing "Dreams from My Father" characterized Davis "as a figure from his youth who 'fell short' and whose view of race was 'incurable.'"

However, in "Dreams from My Father," Obama himself tells readers he was listening to Davis' advice right up until the time Obama left Hawaii to attend college in California.

Davis told Obama college was "an advanced degree in compromise," insisting that if he went to college, he would be "trained" into a white middle class world of "corner offices" and "fancy dinners."

"Until you want to actually start running things, and then [white people will] yank on your chain and let you know that you may be a well-trained, well-paid n-gger, but you're a n-gger just the same," Obama reports Davis saying regarding whether or not to attend college.

Obama said Davis ultimately relented, agreeing Obama should attend but advising him to "keep your eyes open" and to "stay awake."

Obama consulted Davis after the shock over learning his grandmother had been frightened not because a panhandler approached her, but because the panhandler was black.

Obama, on page 91 of "Dreams," shares with readers some of Davis' wisdom.

"She understands that black people have a reason to hate," Obama quotes Davis as saying. "For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not. So you might as well get used to it."

Communist ties

The 600-page FBI file on Davis documents his membership in the Hawaiian Communist Party dating back to the early 1950s.

On Dec. 5, 1956, Davis appeared in executive session before the U.S. Senate Subcommittee investigating "the scope of Soviet activity in the United States," one of the McCarthy-era committees seeking to expose communists considered to be a security threat.

Invoking his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination, Davis refused to answer a direct question asking if he was then a communist. A year earlier, in 1955, a Commission on Subversive Activities organized by the government of the Territory of Hawaii identified Davis as a member of the Communist Party USA.

The committee singled out several articles Davis published in the Communist Honolulu Record that were critical of the commission.

The commission also found objectionable a 1951 story Davis published, "Hawaii's Plain People Fight White Supremacy," in the November 1951 issue of a New York City communist tabloid.


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=139805
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 13, 2010, 02:45:56 pm
Quote
doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

It is called the "Medal of Honor". Congressional is not part of the name.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 14, 2010, 12:21:01 am
Opposition to obama’s second motion to dismiss was filed today. statement of Kenyan minister of Lands James Orengo was added as an exhibit by Orly

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9195


Margaret Hemenway speaks to Peter Boyles(KHOW) about what Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin encountered when he reported back to the Pentagon.

http://tinyurl.com/y25l783



Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, MD is to face a court martial for his refusal to obey deployment orders, pending proof that it is a lawful order, issued by a commander in chief who meets the constitutional requirements of office. Dr. Lakin explained his refusal in an article published April 8th on American Thinker. The American Patriot Foundation writes:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/04/lt_col_lakin_to_face_court_mar.html


Hmmm. Kenyan Embassy is enroute to "soccer game" that never was

http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/04/hmmm-kenyan-embassy-is-enroute-to.html



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 14, 2010, 04:55:28 am
I'd like to see former/retired police detectives take on the case and see what they come up with. Work it as say a fraud case, and they are investigating Seotoro to see if there is a case to present to a DA. We here know that it would take them no time at all before they would be wondering what the heck it going on with the solid circumstantial evidence all over the place. I don't think it wold take long for them to notice something fishy is going on. Legal roadblocks are classic red flags in deception, and Obama has thrown up the ultimate legal roadblock with that Executive Order on his records. That's like Bush got something passed that basically said they weren't guilty before anything happened, and they had immunity from crimes that hadn't taken place yet! Wish I could remember that bill; had to do with treatment of prisoners or something.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 14, 2010, 07:52:56 pm
Orly Gets The Boot From Tea Party

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9253



From NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski and Mark Murray

U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be “illegal.”

Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief, because he believes (incorrectly) that Obama wasn’t born in the United States.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/13/2267021.aspx



Army doctor who is reportedly facing a court martial for refusing orders is getting crucial assistance from an ex-congressional staffer and Bush Administration vet with a colorful past as well as from a charitable foundation that was founded in 2003 by a Republican senator, originally to aid the families of slain soldiers.

When Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin announced in a YouTube video late last month that he would refuse to deploy to Afghanistan until President Obama produced a birth certificate, the news spread thanks to a PR operation by a virtually unknown group called the American Patriot Foundation

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/birther_army_doc_gets_help_from_fmr_gop_insider_an.php



Orly v Obama – The Judge is starting to respond

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/orly-v-obama-the-judge-is-starting-to-respond/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 15, 2010, 12:01:42 pm
Lame Cherry's take on the court martial of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin---


http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/04/obama-on-my-mind.html

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Obama on my Mind


America is coming apart at the seams.

There is no doubt about this, as a week ago just minding my own business a clerk went into a speech about the government taxing poor people and today I had a clerk follow me around telling me that he could not stand Obama, repeatedly.

There are real signs in this that this is not just the Silent Majority, but a coup of sorts is building in Washington, DC and across the Limbaugh fruited plain.

Arizona is arresting illegals by the bushels in direct in your face to Obama.

In Washington, the Post's star reporter in Dana Milbank has had a two week field day on the Obama's in calling Michelle "milk toast" and in the Obama nuclear summit, literally using the word OCCUPANT for Barack Hussein Obama as former leader of the free world.

Those types of situations coming from the liberal elite reveal a Rockefeller fracture in the Obama regime and things are now progressing that even a fringe person like Ron Paul without his Paulites rigging polls is about dead even with Obama in a Presidential run.
Once again, Hillary Clinton's name is surfacing as the coup against Barack Obama is coming full steam ahead.

Thee absolute best news in this, or series of best news events is the Pentagon is going to court martial Lt. Col. Terry Lakin. I was reading the NBC story on it and the Obama idiots over there in commentary were cheering this in calling this Patriot Terry Lakin a coward.
These idiots could not read the handwriting on the wall as if Obama was in control of the Pentagon this would have been ignored as it was swept under the rug for all of 2009 when numerous military personnel were questioning Obama in court.

This requires discernment, because a shift has occurred in the Pentagon. Roberts Gates in the press is being touted thee best Sec. of Defense in history. This means the Rockefellers are backing Gates. When one adds the court martial against Terry Lakin, where he literally will be able to demand PROOF of Obama's passport, birth certificate and college loans to ascertain if Mr. Obama is legitimate or not for the light bird's defense, this is pointing to the Pentagon is literally not only at odds with Barack Hussein Obama, but is affording an opportunity in performing a very American coup on Obama legally.


This is why the Obamites on NBC cheering this are the absolute fools they are. They can not comprehend this IS thee last thing Obama wants, as he spent 2 million dollars hiding this, and now the military branch of the United States, which has absolute authority to remove an occupant of the White House is about to hold a trial on the very subject of Obama eligibility.

That reveals the utter moronic stupidity Obama commenters are in whole as they are supporting something Obama is hiding and the indications are the Pentagon has just laid the groundwork to remove Barack Hussein Obama without impeachment, but by simple arrest.

That is what this all means in scope and context. When the US Army holds this court martial, Lt. Col. Lakin must be afforded all evidence to defend himself. This means all of Obama's documentation must be produced.
If Obama denies this, then he is in violation of the military codes and he will be impeached or removed immediately from office. Court orders obtaining Obama's papers being hidden if showing Obama took college loans under an assumed name, foreign grants, and his passport does not match his Pakistani claims of going there, all prove Lt. Col. Lakin is correct.
The judgment then is the Constitutional crisis of world history in everything Obama has done is illegal. He is a criminal.
Joe Biden can not assume the Presidency as he was on fraud ticket.

Hillary Clinton can not assume the Presidency as she was appointed by usurper Obama.

As this falls to Congress, Pelosi and Reid nor any member can assume the Presdiency as they were part of a fraud in installing Obama and criminals too.

In reality, this falls literally to who the liberals have been touting in Robert Gates and possibly Scott Brown of Massachusettes as thee only people not touched by this fraud, except Sarah Palin as she had not part in voting for Obama to be in the White House.

Literally America might be run by a civilian head of the Pentagon from the Bush administration until elections could be held, as Obama and the Obamites have literally tainted every political figure in the federal government.

The clerk who was chanting at me today that he could not stand Obama, also made mention that the national guard troops he was speaking with were just as adament in their loathing Mr. Obama.
I have noted time again the absolute scowling faces of "photo op" Soldiers, regardless of race, not looking the least bit pleased to being around an Obama who as of late was sorry that America was a Super Power.

So for the NBC ignorant mob, they will rue the day they cheered this, as there is more going on here in the Pentagon taking this up and not sweeping it away as has been done for over a year.

Dana Milbank is a sign, and the Pentagon brass are a sign that something has changed. This is not about leverage on Obama, but indicates something running much deeper.
Obama has slapped the Veterans, the Soldiers, Catholics, Jews, Tea Partiers, the Dali Lama etc.... and it is now a force which the Rockefellers are involved as Kissinger and Associates were involved in this concerning Obama and nuclear munitions.

I pray as the kings heart is in the Lord's hand to do as God pleases, that God moves the judges in the court martial of Lt. Col. Lakin to do God's will. This is a moment that the world will change forever in the defense of Terry Lakin.
God bless him and God's will be done in Jesus Name. Amen


agtG
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 15, 2010, 07:13:10 pm
Attempts to reach Member of Parliament on claim Obama born in Kenya fail

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/14/attempts-to-reach-member-of-parliament-on-claim-obama-born-in-kenya-fail/


Demand issued to Nevada Governor for proof of Obama’s eligibility

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/29/demand-issued-to-nevada-governor-for-proof-of-obamas-eligibility-2/


Nevada Resident calls out Harry Reid over Obama’s eligibility

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/15/nevada-resident-calls-out-harry-reid-over-obamas-eligibility/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on April 15, 2010, 07:15:03 pm
Attempts to reach Member of Parliament on claim Obama born in Kenya fail


Looks like the payment got made -- or, the MP got "made."
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 15, 2010, 08:34:25 pm
Denver talk-radio host Peter Boyles interviewed Lietenant Colonel Terrence Lakin’s spokesperson Margaret Hemenway Tuesday, the second day in a row as the “birther” showdown unfolds in Washington. Boyles has admitted he is fascinated by the story of Greeley native Lakin, a decorated 18-year Army medic who refuses to deploy for the second time to Afghanistan because he doesn’t fully believe Pres. Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States. Lakin is the latest and highest ranking of a handful of soldiers who have subscribed to the mostly right-wing theory that Obama has hidden or falsified the usual documents that would prove his citizenship and that he has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars “lawyering up” to protect their secrecy. Boyles, at the very least a semi-believer in the conspiracy himself, clearly admires the man the media is now calling “Colonel Birther.”

“Lakin is risking everything… this guy, he’s hardly a punk, he’s done his [tours of duty] in the past and now he’s willing to call [the president] out on it. He throws it all away. He loses all his benefits and retirement pay and goes to prison for hard labor. It’s not a punk thing by any stretch.”

http://coloradoindependent.com/51266/radio-host-boyles-birther-lakin-no-punk-oreilly-a-liar



White House press corps sued for doing Obama's 'bidding' Lawsuit charges deliberate attempt to exclude media outlet

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=139657



Marine's Facebook comments criticizing Obama fuel free speech debate among military

A Camp Pendleton Marine has removed his Facebook page after his comments fueled a free-speech debate about whether troops are allowed to criticize President Barack Obama's policies while serving in the military.

Sgt. Gary Stein said he was asked by his superiors to review the Pentagon's directive on political activities after he criticized Obama's health care reform efforts and then was asked this week to talk about his views on the MSNBC cable TV channel.

Stein said his supervisor told him of his right to an attorney about the matter. He said he decided to close his Facebook page and review his military code obligations. He also contacted private attorneys who told him he had done nothing wrong.

"There's this illusion that when we sign our contract and voluntarily commit, that we lose our right to speak out," Stein told the San Diego Union-Tribune in a story published Wednesday.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/90866589.html



The U.S. Army says a surgeon who has publicly refused to follow any further orders until he sees documentation that Barack Obama is eligible to be president is being "reassigned" at Walter Reed Army Hospital after he refused to deploy to Afghanistan as scheduled.

While there have been reports Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is facing an imminent court-martial, Army spokesman Chuck Dasey told WND today that Lakin is only "under investigation" at this point

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=140897
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 16, 2010, 02:33:38 pm
Taitz v. Obama (Quo Warranto)—DISMISSED

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9368


So Orly Did Show Up In Florida On Wednesday; No. She Does NOT Have Standing

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9321



As expected Bill O'Reilly & Megyn Kelly sellout their country and make FOOLS of themselves...Threw LTC. Lakin Under the Bus!

4/15/10, Fox News threw Lt. Col. Lakin under the bus... I bet Obama is very proud.

Megyn Kelly was touted tonight as having investigated the "birther controversy" as it related to army Lt. Col. Lakin's refusal to deploy to Afghanistan when she appeared on Bill O'Reilly's Fox program an hour ago.

What followed was an incredible display of ignorance (she didn't investigate anything) and a obviously orchestrated smear campaign against all those concerned Americans who question Obama's eligibility and a great deal of derision and disdain directed at Lt. Col. Lakin himself.

O'Reilly and Kelly made absolute fools of themselves as they sneered and smirked their way through their talking points, that was anything but fair and balanced. Actually, to be really fair, one would have to say that Megyn Kelly and Bill O'Reilly sold their souls tonight. In doing so, they showed that they care less about America and the truth and more about money and job security. In so doing they betrayed their fellow Americans and smeared an honorable man who has dedicated his adult life in service to America. In so doing they purposely misrepresented the true facts and purposely lied to the viewers. It seems that they would rather prop up a usurper, an anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Semite, Marxist criminal who defrauded the American people and who is now intent on destroying America and lies to the American people everyday than actually investigate the issue and provide a thoughtful and responsible report! O'Reilly and Kelly have proven with their reprehensible presentation tonight that they like AKA Obama, are also frauds and traitors!

True to form Kelly and O'Reilly made sure to follow the their script making sure not to contradict Bill's previous show of several months ago when he pretended to listen to an equally laughable and ignorant presentation from his female lackeys, Lis Wiehl and Kimberly Guilfoyle. In that show he even went so far as to tell his viewers that he had investigated the eligibility issue thoroughly and found it to be bogus. He further lied that he had actually seen the birth certificate. That, we all know is a lie. By the way, why didn't Bill mention again tonight, that he had seen the birth certificate? Well because he got caught in the lie the last time and took some heat. He probably didn't want to talk about the eligibility show tonight but dutifully followed the Fox marching orders. Kelly, who is a rising Fox star, played along.

Realizing of course that Kelly and O'Reilly are indeed, following the marching orders of Fox (and therein the Saudi government and the Obama White House), both of these phonies put on a display of ignorance that was truly laughable if it wasn't for the fact that the issue is vital concern to the preservation of our Constitution and the American way of life.

As for fair and balanced...why no one representing the eligibility issue allowed to be on the program? And why no mention of the recent video of Michelle Obama referring to Kenya as Obama's home country...or why no mention of the speech in the Kenyan parliament just a few days ago referring to Obama as being born in Kenya? Fair and balanced? I think not. O'Reilly and Kelly are willing participants in the greatest cover up ever.

BTW...O'Reilly sneered and snorted that the "birther" issue has not gained traction. Then why in the hell is he talking about it?

We will be sure to put up the video as soon it is available. We will have more commentary soon.

Note: Bill O'Reilly deserves the respect of no one...he is lying to his viewers and he knows it...hence the picture of him above making fun of him!

BOYCOTT FOX! ...and feel free to share the story!

Email and Tweet Megyn Kelly... tell her what a sell-out she is... and if that's investigative reporting... all I can say is wow... [email protected] or send her a Tweet @MegynKelly ...GiveUsLiberty.

Via theConservativeMonster; - Bill O' Reilly and Megyn Kelly Think Newspaper Birth Announcements are Legal Documents? -

This interview with Megyn Kelly and Bill O' Reilly is a disgrace and it is this journalism that is the reason why Lt Col Lakin was forced to stand up for what he felt was right and the US Constitution.

Fox News has brainwashed their massive audience with success to not go near this issue, but many of us with our own damn brains are not buying their lies. Notice that Bill O' Reilly and Megyn Kelly never once mentioned the words "natural born citizen" during this interview? What are they hiding? The truth, that is what they are hiding.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/as-expected-bill-oreilly-megyn-kelly.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 16, 2010, 02:55:47 pm
 Army Office refuses to show Proof of Birth until CIC shows his

    "LTC Lakin's own deployment orders to Afghanistan included a requirement for him to bring 'copies of his birth certificate,'" the statement from Hemenway said.— Bob Unruh

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin did not report for duty to Fort Campbell, Ky. as ordered [to on April 12, 2010] and a spokesman for the post said it's not likely he will, reported Bryant Jordan on Military.com.

Lt. Col. Lakin refused orders to deploy for a second time to Afghanistan, and refused to be dispatched to Fort Campbell ... in preparation for the overseas assignment."

It is indeed ironic that a part of the process for the Army to deploy the Lt. Colonel to Afghanistan is for the Army Officer to show is birth certificate.

The [Obama birth certificate] issue has prompted a number of state legislatures to work on proposals that would require presidential candidates to submit proof of their eligibility. And a similar proposal has been introduced in Congress by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.--Bob Unruh

Lt. Col Lakin is a decorated Army surgeon who is now branded with the Liberal pejorative “birther” for asking the commander in chief (CIC) to do the very same thing that the Army ordered Lakin to do. Report and bring copies of his birth certificate. (see article)

How interesting that the Army can be “birthers” as indicated their asking Lt. Col. Lakin for his Birth Certificate and conversely attempt to label Lt. Col. Lakin as a “birther” for being the only one in this situation that is fulfilling his military oath as an officer to "support and defend the United States Constitution," including the article demanding that only a "natural born citizen" can be president.

[Lt. Col. Lakin] said, however, he was compelled to act as he did because of his oath as an officer to "support and defend the United States Constitution," including the article demanding that only a "natural born citizen" can be president.—Bob Unruh

President Barry Hussein Soetoro, Democrats and their sycophants are betting that the American people are equally as partisan and corrupted as they. They believe that the America people couldn’t care less that the constitution is being trifled with just as long as there is some immediate gratification in it for them.

If the American people are as lawless has president Soetoro and Democrats believe them to be then it doesn’t matter whether or not Barry Hussein Soetoro is constitutionally eligible to be president just as long as he gives them the unemployment and health care trinkets that they want.

If that is a true and accurate reading of the American people then equally the American people shouldn’t care if a Military Officer disobeys orders. For that matter why should any of us obey any laws whatsoever if we can pick and chose which laws we feel are relevant or irrelevant?

Obama's actual response to those who question his eligibility to be president under the Constitution's requirement that the U.S. president be a "natural born citizen" has been to dispatch both private and tax-funded attorneys to prevent anyone from gaining access to his documentation.—Bob Unruh

I’m betting that president Soetoro is wrong. I’m betting that the American people care about the Constitution, they care about the rule of law and they care that about legitimate government.

If the president is betting that the American people are corrupt and self-serving as Democrats and that Americans will allow the constitution to be destroyed then I believe he is on the wrong side of history and he has grossly mis-characterized the American people.

Lt. Col. Terrance Lakin is an example of the American spirit. He is an example of those of us who believe in truth. Lt. Col. Lakin is defending the constitution and that act is bigger than any one of us or any president.

http://creatingorwellianworld-view-alaphiah.blogspot.com/2010/04/army-office-refuses-to-show-proof-of.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 16, 2010, 03:17:22 pm
The Army office doesn't have proof of his birth to withhold till Lakin produces his own. That's absurd. Obama made sure no one can see it by Executive Order as soon as he took office, so how does the Army have proof? Let them explain that.
Title: Justice Thomas live on C-span: We are evading the eligibility issue l
Post by: menace on April 17, 2010, 05:56:22 pm
Rep. Joe Serrano went on a long monologue about 'diversity' in the court and even said he would be glad when the day came, that a Puerto Rican could be president...to which Thomas replied that the court was avoiding that question. Nervous laughter ensues and the topic is quickly dropped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7qEH-tKoXA&feature=player_embedded


When a man with a video camera at a tea party protest asked Champaign Mayor Jerry Schweighart what he thought of President Barack Obama, the three-term Republican didn't hesitate.

"I don't think he's American, personally," the mayor said Thursday in a video that's been posted on YouTube. "You know, if you're not willing to produce an original certificate like a birth certificate, then you've got something to hide."

The 71-year-old Schweighart told The Associated Press on Friday that he stands by the statement.

"Oh, sure," he said. "My stand, and I don't understand why everybody is so upset, is he's never shown the original birth certificate."

Schweighart was echoing complaints made by some tea party activists and so-called birthers who doubt Obama is qualified to hold his office. Though state officials in Hawaii say records confirm Obama was born there, birthers say the president has never proven his citizenship.

A spokesman for the Illinois Democratic Party said he was surprised to still be responding to questions about Obama's legitimacy as president.

"Most rational people have discarded that question years ago," Steve Brown said.

The mayor's statement led to discussion on local talk radio Friday. A half-dozen or more callers sounded off on WDWS radio's "Penny for Your Thoughts" program, some backing the mayor, some saying he embarrassed the city.

Schweighart said the man who videotaped him appeared to be part of a student group from the University of Illinois who attended the rally in opposition to the tea party. The YouTube video was posted by someone whose online ID is illinoisgrads, but the person didn't respond to a request for comment that The Associated Press sent through the Web site.

The mayor said he doesn't know Obama, though years ago he shared a table with him at a Champaign event where Obama spoke. Schweighart said he had no particular awareness of Obama as a politician — much less concern about him — before the former senator from Illinois became president.

But Schweighart, who was a Champaign police officer for 32 years, said he shares many tea party concerns about the president's health care plan and other issues.

"It's just worrisome that the government is going to be running everything," he said.

....here's the you tube video:

Champaign IL Mayor Schweighart says Obama is not an American citizen

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/ct-met-champaign-mayor-0418-20100416,0,2577579.story


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC4LBdSnhkE
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 19, 2010, 08:58:48 pm
Arrest Me, Too, Says Carl Swensson

http://riseupforamerica.com/


Military Veteran tells Army official: Investigate Obama, not Lt. Col. Lakin

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/18/military-veteran-tells-army-official-investigate-obama-not-lt-col-lakin/



The amendment requiring the Arizona Secretary of State to obtain verification of a Presidential candidates satisfaction of Constitutional requirements (age, residency, and NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP) before placing such candidate on the Arizona ballot was passed this afternoon.

It is believed that there are just a few more steps to be taken before reaching Governor Brewers desk for signature to sign it into law. There has to be a "Third and Fourth (4th is reportedly almost automatic) Readings" and a trip back to the Senate Judiciary committee. The Third Reading could possibly come as early as tomorrow. More details to follow as obtained.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/arizona-amendment-requiring-proof-of.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 21, 2010, 08:05:29 pm
Lakin on the Libby show

http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.safeguardourconstitution.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fmp3%2Fampat-20100420-gordonliddy.mp3&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fnativeborncitizen.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F04%2F20%2Flakin-on-the-libby-show%2F



 
Spokesperson for Army Doctor Challenging Obama’s Eligibility speaks with The Post & Email

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/19/spokesperson-for-army-doctor-challenging-obamas-eligibility-speaks-with-the-post-email/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 21, 2010, 09:59:04 pm
Alex Jones - Phil Berg interview !!!

Obama's Birth Certificate Issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6laVQp3j3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkhqyRY2j4&feature=related

Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

Michelle Obama speaking at the LGBT Delegate (The World as it Should Be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug

Grandmother says Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/


Just thought I'd re-post this.   ;)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: lord edward coke on April 22, 2010, 05:17:27 pm

What do you do if the guy living in the White House uses Social Security number 042-68-XXXX that was actually issued in the State of Connecticut between 1977 and 1979 to an individual who was born in 1890? Interestingly, the SSN does not appear in the Social Security death index and now has two dates of birth tied to it: Aug. 4, 1961 and the year 1890. As a US Senator, this man used an entirely different Social Security number—282-90-XXXX.

Using several Social Security Numbers that have never been issued to anyone. . . among the 39 Social Security cards. . . discovered linked to the Obama family SSNs for Obama, his wife and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, none of them were issued in Hawaii, which in itself, according to [attorney Orly] Taitz, is evidence of Obama's foreign birth.

Clearly, if the 28 Social Security numbers Obama uses, or has used during his lifetime, were appropriated by him for his personal use, a case can be made that he has committed multiple Class C felonies in order to conceal the fact that he does not possess a United States birth certificate. If that's true, and the only Hawaiian birth certificate he possesses is a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii (which was issued as a personal favor to him by Hawaiian Gov. Linda Lingle) rather than a Certificate of Live Birth that is accompanied by "eye witness signatures" which are affidavits of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961 rather than in Mombassa, Kenya on the same day. Then, even without the elusive long form Hawaiian birth certificate that appears not to exist, Obama could be forced to resign or be impeached and removed from office   

.http://www.jonchristianryter.com/2010/100419.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on April 22, 2010, 05:21:33 pm
C-I-A

That is the real issue.

If he wasn't a spook (spy, not racial epithet!) he would never have gotten away with all this crap in the first place.

That's who's looking out for him now to keep this [email protected]#t buried.

That's what the so-called "birther" issue really boils down to.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 23, 2010, 05:41:32 am
What do you do if the guy living in the White House uses Social Security number 042-68-XXXX that was actually issued in the State of Connecticut between 1977 and 1979 to an individual who was born in 1890? Interestingly, the SSN does not appear in the Social Security death index and now has two dates of birth tied to it: Aug. 4, 1961 and the year 1890. As a US Senator, this man used an entirely different Social Security number—282-90-XXXX.

Using several Social Security Numbers that have never been issued to anyone. . . among the 39 Social Security cards. . . discovered linked to the Obama family SSNs for Obama, his wife and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, none of them were issued in Hawaii, which in itself, according to [attorney Orly] Taitz, is evidence of Obama's foreign birth.

Clearly, if the 28 Social Security numbers Obama uses, or has used during his lifetime, were appropriated by him for his personal use, a case can be made that he has committed multiple Class C felonies in order to conceal the fact that he does not possess a United States birth certificate. If that's true, and the only Hawaiian birth certificate he possesses is a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii (which was issued as a personal favor to him by Hawaiian Gov. Linda Lingle) rather than a Certificate of Live Birth that is accompanied by "eye witness signatures" which are affidavits of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961 rather than in Mombassa, Kenya on the same day. Then, even without the elusive long form Hawaiian birth certificate that appears not to exist, Obama could be forced to resign or be impeached and removed from office  

.http://www.jonchristianryter.com/2010/100419.html

Yeah, it seems as more info comes out, Barry has some 'splainin' to do either way. It appears he may well have committed crimes no matter how this should turn out. Occidental College or some college applications may show him applying as a foreign student, which again he would be guilty regardless because he can't have it both ways. At some some point in this whole process, this guy is appearing to have committed crimes and fraud along the way.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 24, 2010, 02:48:17 am
Army officials working at the direction of the Obama Administration filed formal criminal charges against Terry. You can see the actual Charge Sheet on the website of the American Patriot Foundation

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/


The charges consist of the military equivalent of two serious felonies, and the second of these has four separate "specifications", or occurrences. These formal charges are the first formal proceeding in the court-martial of LTC Lakin. He faces a LENGHTY prison term, at hard labor, if convicted.

President Obama could have released his 1961 birth certificate -if, that is, he has one-and LTC Lakin would have not "missed movement". Instead of releasing, Obama officials have been "unleashed" against this brave and decorated physician.

In facing court-martial, LTC Lakin is just the latest victim of the determined effort of the President not to provide simple proof of his eligibility under the constitution to hold office.

While we greatly and humbly appreciate your recent past support of LTC Lakin, we have not raised enough to provide him with a defense-only enough to hire counsel and get started. To that end, the American Patriot Foundation has hired a noted civilian trial lawyer to lead Terry's defense team. However, we must raise at least half a million dollars to give Terry's lawyers the tools to defend him - and to go after the evidence all others have failed to obtain in order to prove Terry's innocence!

Please show your support for Terry by making another tax-deductible donation of at least $100. Please also lift up Terry in your prayers. If you can afford to give $250 or even $500 more, that would of course be of so much greater help. But whatever you can give, Terry needs you help NOW!

Terry has had the courage to invite his own court martial, and today is neck is on the block. Go to www.safegaurdourconstitution.comand look at the actual charges. If you or I were facing such "felony" charges we would want all the help we could possibly get.

American Patriot Foundation's Legal Defense Fund will pay for all of LTC Lakin's attorneys fees and costs, and so we urgently need your tax deductible contribution. A noted civilian California trial lawyer has now been hired to be LTC Lakin's lead counsel. It is expected these fees and costs will exceed $500,000 and therefore it is essential that LTC Lakin's supporters come to his aid NOW.

A vigorous defense of this case presents the ONLY present hope that Americans will finally lean whether their president lawfully holds office. If you want to see the proof, you can only hope to get it by supporting LTC Lakin NOW.

We at the American Patriot Foundation, on behalf of LTC Lakin, offer you our profound thanks for your support to date, and urge you to make another tax-deductible gift to help LTC Lakin.

LTC Lakin is facing these charges and possible imprisonment because he is willing to do whatever he can to obtain the evidence that will once and for all prove whether President Obama holds his office lawfully.

http://theconservativemonster.com/2010/04/22/obama-administration-unleashes-army-lawyers-instead-of-releasing-birth-certificate-lt-col-lakin-charged.aspx

The Army has issued this statement:

On Thursday, April 22, the Medical Center Brigade Headquarters Company Commander preferred charges against LTC Terrence Lakin pursuant to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. LTC Lakin was charged with one specification of a violation of Article 87, Missing Movement and four specifications of a violation of Article 92 (three specifications of Failure to Obey a Lawful Order, and one Specification of Dereliction of Duty).

Following the preferral of charges, and service of the charges on LTC Lakin, the Medical Center Brigade Headquarters Company Commander forwarded the charges to the Acting Medical Center Brigade Commander with a recommendation to dispose of the charges at a General Court-Martial. The Acting Medical Center Brigade Commander, in her capacity as the Summary Court Convening Authority, directed the appointment of an Article 32, UCMJ pre-trial investigation to inquire into the truth of the matters set forth in the charges and to secure information to determine what disposition should be made of the case in the interest of justice and discipline.

The date for the Article 32 investigation has not been set. Upon receipt of appointment orders, The Article 32 Investigating officer will establish a hearing date.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9622

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 29, 2010, 03:38:30 am
A bill in Arizona that would require candidates for president to document their constitutional eligibility needs only an affirmative vote from the state Senate to advance to the governor, but its sponsor told WND she's concerned GOP leadership will end up protecting President Obama's secrets.

State Rep. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, told WND today her bill was approved by the House but now is being "held" by Senate President Robert Burns.

She explained Burns told her that in light of the controversy over the state's immigration law – targeted by pro-amnesty immigrants and open-border activists – "he didn't want to take on another one."

Burns was on the floor of the Senate or in caucus much of today and couldn't be reached directly for comment. A spokesman, Mike Philipsen, told WND only that the issue is "in the process." He did not respond to requests to confirm the bill will be given to senators for a vote.

Burns represents District 9 and is a Republican from Peoria. He serves as chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee.

Arizona has been targeted by calls for boycotts, violent protests and public ridicule for adopting a law that requires law enforcement officials to check the immigration status of people they stop. In effect, it makes being in the country illegally under federal requirements illegal under state law, too.

Public ridicule also has targeted the state for even considering a law that would require presidential candidates to document their eligibility, even though several other states also have adopted a similarly questioning stance.

The Arizona Republic quoted Democrats who said "presidential candidates already have to prove their citizenship," and it added, editorially, "Secretary of State Ken Bennett, who lives in the real world, not on conspiracy island, points out that it could be unconstitutional for a state to impose its own requirements on federal office."

The newspaper called the plan "worse than a foolish waste of time."

"It suggests Arizona is a place where any crackpot whim can be enshrined in law."

But Burges told WND  the disputes over immigration laws make now the right time to advance the argument over Obama's eligibility to the level of state law.

"I think it is a perfect time," she said.

She noted that the state legislative session is scheduled to conclude this week, and next year's legislature may not be willing to look at the facts about Obama's eligibility.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=146729



Hawaii Passes Leave-Us-Alone, Birfers, Law

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9785


The long-rumored “birth certificate march on Washington” — a project of the original birther attorney, Phil Berg — will happen on Saturday, May 29. Berg is beckoning supporters to the 82-acre President’s Park, right across from the White House.

The event will include a protest of health-care reform because, as Berg writes:

The Healthcare bill (ObamaCare) signed into Law by Obama on March 23, 2010 is unconstitutional and voidable since he is ineligible to serve as President of the United States.

… If the media-to-protesters ratio at last week’s open-carry rally was about four to one, what’s the over/under on the radio this time? Ten to one?

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9766




Lt. Col. Lakin’s Journey

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/lt-col-lakins-journey-living-in-times.html


Andy Martin heads to Hawaii, launches "Operation Aloha Obama IV," expected to file lawsuit against Hawaii Officials for Obama's records and cover up.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/andy-martin-heads-to-hawaii-launches.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 29, 2010, 07:34:00 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dcnow/2010/04/hawaii-legislature-oks-ignoring-requests-for-president-obamas-birth-certificate.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dcnow/2010/04/hawaii-legislature-oks-ignoring-requests-for-president-obamas-birth-certificate.html)

Quote
Hawaii Legislature OKs ignoring requests for President Obama's birth certificate

April 27, 2010 | 10:33 pm

Hawaii legislators passed a measure allowing a state agency to ignore repeated requests from a person or organization for President Obama's birth certificate.

The measure approved by the state Legislature on Tuesday would carve an exemption in the state's public records law and allow officials to ignore all kinds of duplicative requests, including those for Obama's birth certificate.

Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino has issued two statements since 2008 saying she had seen vital records proving Obama is a natural-born American citizen. Obama was born in Honolulu to a Kenyan father and an American mother.

But state officials say they still get between 10 and 20 e-mails each week seeking verification of Obama's birth.

The bill now goes to Gov. Linda Lingle.

--   Associated Press
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 30, 2010, 03:55:14 am
Rush Limbaugh says Obama is afraid of the eligibility issue

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/rush-limbaugh-says-obama-is-afraid-of.html



Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin on Steve Malzberg Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCgoiHY5imU&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSkcRORPFQo&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on April 30, 2010, 04:19:31 am
I am one of those crazy "birthers" but I am absolutely opposed to the immigration legislation in Az.

"Achtung, zee papers, please."

No way.

This is a back door to National ID, and ultimately the chip, and (finally) an RFID suppository the size of a bowling ball.  Bend over and take it, if you want to prove you're a real American.

Screw that.

Screw amnesty (on the "left") and random ID checks (on the "right".)  Screw the left-right paradigm -- period.
(I don't have much use for Rush Limbaugh either, though he bothers me much less now than in previous years.)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on April 30, 2010, 06:12:21 am
You know what?  For once I want to be the first person to say I was wrong.  I just read this op-ed in the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/opinion/29kobach.html?src=me&ref=homepage

Az. law does not call for random checks.

That having been said, I'm still afraid this will add fuel to the National ID fire. You can do the right thing for the wrong reason, and I wonder if this isn't one of those cases.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 02, 2010, 05:04:42 am
President Barack Obama shared some words of wisdom on Saturday, saying there a few things in life harder to find and more important to keep than love.

"Well, love and a birth certificate," Obama quipped at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner, poking fun at those who question his place of birth. "I happen to know that my approval ratings are still very high in the country of my birth."

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/good-to-know-obama-can-hear-us-obama.html

94 percent confidence rating in Kenya


Andy Martin gives ultimatum to Hawaii Governor, Attorney General over Obama secrecy

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/andy-martin-gives-ultimatum-to-hawaii.html




Texas bill would require birthplace proof for presidential candidates

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=9860



 
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on May 02, 2010, 06:39:10 am
Seems Martin's efforts haven't been good enough, as Hawaii passed the bill on denying/ignoring repeated requests for Obama's records. Waiting the governor's signature I think.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 02, 2010, 07:03:41 am
Darren’s arrest goes to the events of 20 April 2010

Beyond the charge of inciting a riot Darren is charged with intending to create civil unrest. These charges are aggravated as federal authorities falsely accuse Darren of transporting weapons across state lines to carry out his alleged “riot**” and “civil unrest” in Madisonville, Tennessee on the 20th of April 2010.

It takes four people to riot in Tennessee.  Darren was driving alone as he approached Madisonville, TN on 20 April. Darren was alone when pulled over in a felony stop by three Tennessee State Trooper cruisers and two unmarked police SUV s)

http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 03, 2010, 02:34:19 am
Note from a Marine Vet Re: Monroe County, Tenn. and video.
 
http://citizenstsunami.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/note-from-a-marine-vet/

http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/police-state-amerika-fbi-arrests-darren-huff-last-night/


U.S. Grand Jury, Incorporated report on the Monroe County Tennessee Grand Jury

http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/u-s-grand-jury-report/



A “Marines” words in an open letter to YOU ! A true Oath Keeper

http://citizenstsunami.wordpress.com/2010/04/29/a-marines-words-in-an-open-letter-to-you-a-true-oath-keeper/



Congressman Duncan Hunter, who fancies himself a Constitutionalist, was tricked and trapped at a recent town hall meeting of Tea Party folks, when he was asked by an un-named man:

"Congressman, would you support the deportation of natural-born American citizens that are the children of illegal aliens?"

Congressman Hunter then repeated the question to give himself time to answer-- "I would have to say, yes--"

The trick in the trick question is that there is no such thing as a "natural born citizen" of illegal aliens.

Illegal aliens and legal aliens can have 14th Amendment citizen children, according to the courts-- but a natural born citizen, from the Founding has been defined as a child born of citizen parents.

Wong Kim Ark's ruling was on the citizenship of Wong Kim Ark and the Article 2 Section 1 clause of the Constitution was not part of the ruling, yet it remains in dispute in the public square.

And Congressman like Duncan Hunter are ignorant of the Constitution's history, interpretation and application.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/congressman-hunter-trapped-by-trick.html



National Conference on Barack Obama’s birth certificate, education records coming to New York

http://andyforussenator.wordpress.com/2009/11/29/national-conference-on-barack-obama%E2%80%99s-birth-certificate-education-records-coming-to-new-york/



Why Congressional Republicans avoid the Obama Eligibility Issue

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/02/why-congressional-republicans-avoid-the-obama-eligibility-issue/




From 1998

Citizen McCain's Panama Problem?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/junkie/archive/junkie070998.htm
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on May 03, 2010, 04:31:14 am
...a natural born citizen, from the Founding has been defined as a child born of citizen parents.


Actually, just one citizen parent of legal age is sufficient.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 07, 2010, 03:47:08 am
LTC Terry Lakin’s lawyer's son dead outside Bedford, Virginia

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/ltc-terry-lakins-lawyers-son-was-shot.html



Andy Martin says KITV-TV News’ story on April 30th, that he was preparing to sue Gov Linda Lingle, forced her hand and made her confess to suborning election fraud.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/andy-martin-says-kitv-tv-news-story-on.html



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 09, 2010, 02:04:33 am
Lt. Col. Lakin on AC 360. Anderson was quite rude with his interview with Col.Lakin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ujl-JjawWo

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/08/did-i-tune-in-to-the-wrong-channel-mr-cooper/



Orly failing to follow the law?

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/orly-failing-to-follow-the-law/



Rachel Maddow – AGJ … Fitzpatrick/HuffPosted. MSNBC Birthers are terrorists

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/05/07/rachel-maddow-agj/
Title: S.D. secretary of state: Obama's citizenship may be 'scam'
Post by: menace on May 11, 2010, 07:40:58 pm
S.D. secretary of state: Obama's citizenship may be 'scam'

Chris Nelson, who's retiring after two terms as South Dakota's secretary of state to challenge Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.), gets asked by Kevin Woster whether he believes President Obama is a citizen of the United States. Nelson doesn't know.

[M]eeting the constitutional qualifications to be President is a very important issue. If President Obama isn’t constitutionally qualified, it would be the biggest scam ever perpetuated on the American people. MANY people contacted me as Secretary of State prior to and after the election asking how Obama could be on our ballot given this controversy. Absent a court finding that he isn’t a natural born citizen, we have to take the certification from the National Democratic Convention at face value.

Of course, most people have taken "at face value" Obama's certification of live birth from Hawaii, released by the campaign in 2008, as proof of where he was born. Interestingly, Nelson's less-well-established primary challengers don't take the bait, and blow off the question.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/south-dakotas-secretary-of-state-obamas.html

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/app/blogs/politicalblog/?p=5530


Phil Berg, who has postponed his March of the Birth Certificates, originally scheduled for this month in Washington DC, will play assistant prosecutor for Birther Minister of Hate, James David Manning’s big top show trial against Columbia University in New York.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10082


Obama waives ethics rules for his eligibility lawyer.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=152177&fa=PAGE.view
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: H0llyw00d on May 11, 2010, 07:45:42 pm
If President Obama isn’t constitutionally qualified, it would be the biggest scam ever perpetuated on the American people....



Not quite.....

(http://911review.org/_webimages/sept11planephotos/1230.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 14, 2010, 01:46:23 pm
The Army has now officially scheduled a formal hearing its case against Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin,

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/may-12-army-schedule-formal-hearing.html

Company fired 9 charged with accessing Obama loans

Department of Education contractor in Iowa said Thursday that nine former employees charged with accessing President Barack Obama's student loan records were fired nearly a year ago.

Vangent Inc. spokeswoman Eileen Rivera said the workers were let go last June for violating the company's security policy after it learned what had occurred.

"An investigation identified a number of Vangent employees, among others, who inappropriately accessed student loan records," Rivera said in a statement. She said Vangent was not the subject of the investigation.

Authorities have not said why the nine people sought access to the records or if the information was then used in any way. Rivera also declined to comment on why they accessed the records.

"We do not know the intentions of the former employees," Rivera said. "However, no evidence of misuse of the data by the former employees was found."

The White House declined to comment Thursday.

The nine former employees are accused of gaining access to a computer at the Vangent office in Coralville office between July 2007 and March 2009, and accessing Obama's student loan records while he was either a candidate for president, president-elect or president.

They were indicted Wednesday on charges that they exceeded their authorized computer access. The U.S. attorney's office said a grand jury returned the indictments in U.S. District Court in Davenport.

Those charged are Gary Grenell, 58; Andrew J. Lage, 54, Patrick E. Roan, 51, Sandra Teague, 54, and Mercedes Costoyas, 53, all of Iowa City; Lisa Torney, 49, of Coralville; Anna C. Rhodes, 32, of Ainsworth; Julie L. Kline, 38, of West Branch; and John P. Phommivong, 29, of North Liberty.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_STUDENT_LOANS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-05-12-20-07-35


Obama's 'CERTIFICATION of Live Birth' form reveals Birth Registration FILED but never fully ACCEPTED

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/obamas-certification-of-live-birth-form.html



The C.I.A. Columbia Obama Sedition And Treason Trial – Schedule Of Events, starts today

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10198


Tea Party Patriots “Trumpeter” Endorses Orly Taitz

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10204



Kenya, an East African country identified by Minister James Orengo as Barack Hussein Obama’s birthplace, has been encouraged by Obama to “overturn its historic prohibition on abortions.”

Kenya has been overwhelmingly against abortion.  However, the Obama regime has been heavily involved in attempting to convince President Kibaki and Prime Minister Odinga to adopt a new constitution which would allow abortion to be legalized.  On April 1, 2010, after the Kenyan Parliament passed the proposed constitution, a press release from the White House followed which said, “”We are encouraged by the strong statements made by President Kibaki and Prime Minister Odinga in support of the draft.”

According to LifeNews, “While pro-life groups have been working directly with local pro-life advocates in Kenya to urge the nation’s residents to reject the proposed constitution when it comes up for a vote, the Obama administration is working for its adoption.”  This reportedly includes the U.S. Ambassador to Kenya, Michael Ranneberger.  Church leaders in Kenya are against the new constitution because of its abortion language and what it sees as special treatment of Muslims.  One church leader who had held discussions with Parliament members was quoted as having said, “The Church is unable to compromise at all on the issue of life, the right to life, nor accept the provision that does not ensure the religious equality and equity, as in the concerns about the Kadhi courts.”

Laws against abortion in Kenya date back to 1897.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/12/congressional-investigation-launched-against-obama-regime/


Google hides Obama’s Social Security Number story

http://americangrandjury.org/google-hides-obamas-social-security-number-story



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 15, 2010, 02:13:48 pm
 Can Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald Open An Investigation?

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/obamas-lies-and-fraud-can-special.html


Rev. Manning Trial Update: The Obama Columbia University Trial - Summary of Day One -

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/rev-manning-trial-update-obama-columbia.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 16, 2010, 04:56:33 pm
Manning Trial Update: The Obama Columbia University Trial - Summary of Day Two -
 
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/manning-trial-update-obama-columbia.html


Attorney Mario Apuzzo Responds to the Recent Reports of Mrs. Nordyke's "Recollections":

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/attorney-mario-apuzzo-responds-to.html



BOOM-Shaka-Laka

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10271



Pat Shannan’s letter to “Yellow Journalists”

http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/pat-shannons-letter-to-yellow-journalists/


I’ve been asked to publish this email for the benefit of folks living in Monroe County Tennessee.Not being reported in the press:

http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/ive-been-asked-to-publish-this-email-for-the-benefit-of-folks-living-in-monroe-county-tennessee/


Sher Zieve: Obama looking and planning for his own Waco? Monroe County Grand Jury update

http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/sher-zieve-obama-looking-and-planning-for-his-own-waco/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2010, 10:57:01 am
From Menace's above post---
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/manning-trial-update-obama-columbia.html


Via the Conservative Monster; Summary of Day Two of the Obama Columbia trial

- Day two of the Columbia trial started off with an alternate judge presiding over the case. Jan Johnson is one of Pastor Manning's loyal church followers and she is also aspiring to run for Governor of New York. Judge Unger is reportedly returning for Sunday's hearing.

- Judge Johnson then instructed the jury not to discuss the case outside of the court room and that they should remain to keep an open mind not to make a decision or final determination as far as a verdict.

- Pastor Manning then stated that George Washington never had the powersthat Barack Hussein Obama has. Manning then mentioned that Obama has anability to manipulate the media and people unlike any other politician today. This has given Obama even more power.

- Manning then suspiciously states that he would not be surprised if Obama sent a plant to infiltrate the jury, to undermine this trial.

12 Noon - The Bailiff swears in the jury and alternate jurors. Then, Manning plays a video of Lt Col Lakin on you Tube explaining why he disobeyed his orders to go to Afghanistan. manning and the judge note that the video is for information purposes only and that it will not be submitted as evidence.

The FIRST WITNESS

Linda Bentley, the 1st witness is sworn in. Bentley is an investigative reporter from Arizona and she was a very impressing and convincing witness with her testimony on Obama's selective service card. Bentely, also a former private investigator went into great detail how Steve Hoffman (an immigration agent) obtained Obama's selective service records. Hoffman filed a request for Obama's selective service records after he saw an interview with George Stephanopolous back in September 2008.

Obama stated during the interview that "he filed for selective service after he graduated from high school". Bentley then noted that Obama graduated in 1979 and at that time there was no requirement to file a selective service card since President Ford ended that requirement back in 1975.

Bentley then stated that Hoffman noted that the filing date on Obama's selective service card was just 6 weeks prior to when he obtained the requested information. The date filing date on the card was just two days after the Stephanopolous interview. There were many dates mentioned, but this is what your reporter is stating that he heard.

There was also an issue with the stamp on the document since there was only a two digit number year (80), rather than a four digit number (1980). Bentley questioned whether the number was made two digits to give the appearance that it was filed in 80, rather than 08 (1980 rather than 2008).

Social Security Numbers

Bentley then testified that Orly Taitz hired two investigators and they determined that Obama reportedly had over 30 different Social Security numbers that came up in the computer when his name was entered. Bentley then alleged that the number Obama is currently using is from a man that was born in 1890 in Connecticut. She then noted that Obama never lived in Connecticut and that the first three digits of the SS# came back to that state, rather than Hawaii.

Bentley also mentioned that if you ran Obama's SS# in the computer, the results came up as Barack Obama, but the number did not belong to him.

Pastor Manning then called one of his elders, Jeff Smith to take the stand due to the fact that he is a Postal Worker the past 25 years. Manning then asked him about the controversy over the two digit and four digit years. Smith testified that the Post Office always uses four digits when they stamp documents and that he was unsure how Obama's seclective service card had only a two digit year stamped on it. The plot thickens....

Dr Ron Polland Video - Fraud in the USA

Manning then played a video of Dr Ron Polland for the court where he showed in depth how the media targeted John McCain's possible ineligibility issues due to the fact that he was born in Panama. In many instances, the video showed how the media was biased against McCain and for Obama.

It was also interesting to see that the attacks against anyone that questioned Obama's ineligibility were brutal, but no attacks or name calling was used against anyone that questioned McCain's possible ineligibility. The video also claimed that Factcheck.org was allegedly the instigator that started the name calling and this is unusual since they are supposed to be non-biased.

Manning then submitted into evidence a notarized letter from Dr Polland stating that his videos were true and that he owned them.

Cody Robert Judy

Cody Robert Judy was the final witness of the day. He was a candidate from the 2008 election that ran as a Conservative. He filed a lawsuit against John McCain and the RNC, because he questioned whether McCain was eligible to be president since he was born in Panama. His case was dismissed by the judge after McCain lost the election. Judy also stated that there was an attempt to change the requirement for Presidents to be natural born back in 2000 when McCain was running for POTUS. This did raise some suspicions.

It was also stated that:

Obama's certificate of live birth was printed by a laser printer, but then stated that there were no laser printers back in 1961. [ BirtherReport.com: what was posted online by Obama's campaign was a CertifiCATION of Live Birth, not CertifiCATE of Live Birth, and it was never claimed by anyone that it was printed back in 1961, it is reported to be issued in 2007 ]

The serial number was blacked out on the document as to hide the date that it was actually filed.

Manning also stated that the COLB was altered and it states on the document that "any altering will make this document invalid."

Pastor Manning said that there was some more disturbances last night in front of the Atlah church by people in the community that are upset about the trial. There were police barriers in front of the church this morning, but there were no protesters.

I will be posting live updates via my cell phone on The Conservative Monster.com. The posts will appear like they do on Twitter, just a brief description of what is going on. I will do a complete report when I get home from the trial.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2010, 11:05:01 am

Manning Trial Update: The Obama Columbia University Trial - Summary of Day three -

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/manning-trial-update-obama-columbia_17.html

Via Steve Cooper; recap of the trial from Sunday May 16, 2010:

I was unable to make the march again, due to the hours that I am putting into writing these updates, articles and answering e-mails. The Conservative Monster was exploding with traffic yesterday, because people want to know about this trial and the media is suppressing the news, just like in the USSR (Fox News included). The news media has all of their credibility invested in this cover up and they are desperate to make this eligibility issue go away. Would the media cut Palin or Bush the same break that they are cutting Barry?

- Pastor Manning stated that he has documentation that he will submit into evidence from a former CIA agent that was also a KGB spy. He did not explain further, so we will have to see what that is about tomorrow (Monday).

- Also, Wayne Allan Root, a former student from Columbia University will testify via Skype video on Monday.

- Pastor Manning played his interview with Dr John Drew, a former friend of Obama from Occidental college.


In this interview Dr. Drew stated:


1. Dr Drew was the founder of the Marxist Organization at Occidental College.

2. Obama was a radical Marxist revolutionary that constantly preached about redistribution of wealth and transformation of the political system.

3. Obama had no black friends, they were only white and foreigners (Middle Eastern)

4. Obama wanted to overthrow the wealthy

5. Obama had no girlfriends and that he was not a hard working student that hit the books hard. He liked to party more than study.

6. Islam and Marxism fit together perfectly and that is why leftists and the Muslim students mixed very well.

7. Obama was always dressed very nice, had designer clothes and drove in a BMW. Obama's friend Mohammed Chandoo from Pakistan seemed to be rolling in cash and Obama was not struggling at all. They spent their money on partying, pot and hotel rooms.


Pastor Manning then stated that Dr. Drew was a tremendous find, because of his close association with Obama and his radical views from his college days. Dr. Drew mentioned to Manning that he "tried to get the word out about Obama's radical views prior to the election, but nobody would listen to him."


Witness Anthony Jones:


- Anthony Jones is an attorney and a member of Pastor Manning congregation. Jones is a former Democrat that got his law degree from Vanderbilt University in Tennessee and a degree from Union Seminary school as well. He also attended Columbia University and Manning questioned him whether anyone at CU knew of Obama or went to class with him. Of course the answer was "no".


- Manning then mentioned that countless CU students have come to Atlah for research on Pastor Manning, Harlem and the church for their PHD thesis. Jones agreed that "he had witnessed many students come to Atlah to make appointments for research purposes".

- Manning then asked Jones if he had any knowledge of Obama meeting any of the community leaders or pastors in the CU area or in the Harlem area. Jones answered, "no, not that he ever heard of". James Cone and Cornel West were also influential during the 1981-1983 era that Obama allegedly went to CU and again, there is no evidence that they assisted Obama in any research of thesis.

- There is no evidence that Obama frequented the Harlem area and he barely made any mention of this in any of his writings as well. Manning stated that Obama did mention one particular church in Harlem, but only that he sat in the back row once to listen to the choir music. Central Park was mentioned also, but nothing about Harlem.

Manning also stated that there was a liberation book store that was very popular at that time and again, Obama never mentioned it and there is no proof that he ever went to that book store like most CU students do.

Manning then asked Jones if the CIA ever recruits from college universities and Jones stated, "yes". Then Afghanistan and the war with Russia was discussed briefly and then the witness testimony ended. Jones was another intelligent and credible witness that Manning put on the stand.

I am a retired cop and I must say that I am impressed by Pastor Manning's method of questioning and presentation. He is doing an amazing job. I also want to add that his congregation is made up of the most well mannered people that I have ever met. They are surrounded by God and that speaks volumes for their Pastor, James David Manning.

It is an honor that I am sitting in this court and exclusively reporting on this trial.

http://www.atlah.org/CIAColumbiaObamaTrial/home.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2010, 11:06:00 am
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/manning-trial-update-obama-columbia_524.html

Manning Trial Update: The Obama Columbia University Trial - Summary of Day four -

Via the Conservative Monster, 5/17/10; Today was a very busy day, but I will make it as brief as possible. First, I want to say that I believe Pastor Manning and his witnesses are proving without a doubt that Obama did not ever attend Columbia University physically. Some of Pastor Manning's witnesses are members of his congregation, but they have been very credible with their testimony. It is their community and they know every nook and cranny of their neighborhood, unlike Obama.

Obama stated in his book "Dreams From My Father" (rumored to be written by Bill Ayers) that he briefly lived at 109th Street and Broadway in Spanish Harlem while he says he attended Columbia University. The only problem is that address in not located in Spanish Harlem and for someone to say that after living in the area and attending the University shows that they do not know the area. So, you figure that one out.

Remember that the purpose of this trial is to prove that Obama never attended Columbia University and that his degree that he obtained was allegedly bought, not earned. Columbia University refuses to comment on this issue or respond to questions. What are they so afraid of? Do you mean to tell me that these records are also sealed? Interesting...

Dr Allan Keyes and Wayne Allyn Root

Pastor Manning stated that he had spoken on the phone with both Dr. Keyes and Wayne Allyn Root about their possible assistance with this trial. Dr. Keyes stated that his lawyers advised him not to testify and pastor Manning understood completely. Wayne Allyn Root, was supposed to testify on Sunday, but there was a mix up and he did not. Mr. Root was willing to testify, but Pastor Manning felt that it was not necessary due to the testimony from Sunday by witnesses.

Plus, there was a massive smear campaign on the Internet by fellow Libertarians that were shouting the "bither" name at Root for even thinking about participating in the Columbia trial. Glenn Beck has many of the libertarians split on this issue and I am sure that Barry and Soros are very happy for Glenn's assistance in undermining the eligibility movement.

Fox New video

Pastor Manning then submitted into evidence a documentary done by Bill Hemmer of Fox News on Obama, prior to the election. The video stated that "over 400 students and faculty were questioned and not one of them knew of Obama or the fact that he even attended Columbia University".


1. The video also showed Obama's school records from Indonesia where it stated that his name was Barry Soetoro and that his religion was Islam. Obama's "Fight the Smears" website once stated that Obama never was a Muslim, but this school records proves that to be untrue.

2. The Fox News documentary stated Obama lived in 96th Street and 1st Ave in NYC, but that seems to contradict his book where he states that he lived in 109th street and Broadway.

3. Obama traveled to Pakistan when he was just 20 years old (more on this later)

4. Obama's roommate was an illegal alien (Pakistani) named Saddiqi.

Witnesses Sabbath La Fleur and her sister Precious La Fleur

Both testified that they checked the Columbia University archives and yearbooks dating from 1980-1985 and they could find no evidence or photos of any Barack Obama or Barry Soetoro. They also testified that they could not find any Phil Bonner either. Obama stated in his book that Bonner was a friend of his that attened Columbia University with him, after a transfer from Occidental college.


1. The professor that Obama named in his book also could not be found in the archives accorded to their testimony.

2. Nothing related to Obama's name could be found in the Political Science dept.

3. Teachers spoke of Obama in his elementary school, his High School, Occidental College and Harvard as well, but no professors have ever mentioned him from Columbia University.

4. Obama stated that he used to hide in the Butler Library, but the witness stated that Library is a major meeting place and it is always very crowded. There is no way to hide there without meeting someone. Yet, nobody ever saw Barry in the Butler Library.

5. There was also a theory that Obama attended the Latrice Mudumba school in Moscow during that time he claimed he was in Columbia, but this has never been proven. This school was created by the Russians to teach radical Marxism to students to help spread communism throughout the world. Witness Al Landry - Investigative Reporter

1. Al Landry states that Passport office was broken into on March 21, 2008 and that the operation was amateur compared to the Wategate break in. This break in involved the passport records of Hillary Clinton, John McCain and Barack Obama. It was interesting how at first the report did not include Obama in the report of passports that were breached.

Landry believes that this break in was possibly done to cleanse Obama's passport records or possible evidence.

2. Lt. Harris found murdered (gun shot) on April 17th, 2008. Lt. Harris worked for the State Department and he was in charge of the Social Security numbers and passport information. Harris was supposedly cooperating with investigators about the break in. Landry suggests that Harris was "at the wrong place at the wrong time".

The Harris murder has never been solved.

3. Landry then states that it was interesting that Obama's mother Stanley Dunham Soetoro lived in Pakistan for 5 years in an exclusive Hotel called the Hilton International. Obama most likely set up his mother with a job working for the Asian Development Bank. Pastor Manning alleges that this Bank was a front for the CIA.

4. SHOCKING DETAIL - Landry states that he read the Public Service registry in Pakistan and on that registry it stated - "44th President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama and in parenthesis it said (Kenyan Born).

Video on Obama's Community Organizer days

Manning stated that he wanted to submit this video as evidence due to it's claim that Obama handed in many resumes during the two year span after he claims that he graduated from Columbia University.

Pastor Manning then questions "Why is Columbia University so silent on this issue?" I am sure that we all know that answer.


Tuesday, Day Five update:


1. The trial will begin at 9:30am

2. I will send brief cell phone messages to The Conservative Monster with LIVE updates from the trial. Please spread them. The posts will be brief comments, not articles.

3. There will be a march at 116th Street and Broadway in NYC (Across from Columbia University) at 7pm

4. I will be unable to attend the march due to my obligation to report about the days events on The Conservative Monster due to the overwhelming response.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on May 18, 2010, 12:30:47 pm
this is a nail biter
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: H0llyw00d on May 18, 2010, 01:01:57 pm
Dean of Columbia U
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IMO, The yearbooks alone are the proof positive he never attended there!!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2010, 03:28:15 pm
Dean of Columbia U
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IMO, The yearbooks alone are the proof positive he never attended there!!

http://savannahnow.com/opinion/2010-04-17/letters-editor-sunday#comment-68489

Obama's past
By Mister Jimmy | 04/18/10 - 06:14

Obama's picture does not appear in the Columbia University yearbook for 'his' class and there is no student ranking of him or any mention of him in that yearbook or any previous, nor does his name appear anywhere in the records of the day. There is no visible copy of his 'degree' from Columbia, however Columbia now tells people he graduated there, though no one remembers him. Another question is why was he disbarred from practicing law? His wife Michelle is also a disbarred lawyer. His 'friend' actor Kal Penn of the Harold and Kumar movies ( and some television shows) has now resigned from his job at the White House and Obama's constant companion these days is a young black man, Reggie Smith, who travels with Obama and appears in most current photographs of Obama. Reggie Smith has no role in the government. What is his function, other than playing hoops in the gym now and then with the president? It is said that Obama was 'editor' of the Harvard Law Review, yet no one has been able to find any article he wrote. Why?

Mister Jimmy
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2010, 03:31:27 pm
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/

Obama's Years at Columbia Are a Mystery
He Graduated Without Honors

By ROSS GOLDBERG, Special to the Sun | September 2, 2008

Senator Obama's life story, from his humble roots, to his rise to Harvard Law School, to his passion as a community organizer in Chicago, has been at the center of his presidential campaign. But one chapter of the tale remains a blank — his education at Columbia College, a place he rarely speaks about and where few people seem to remember him.

Contributing to the mystery is the fact that nobody knows just how well Mr. Obama, unlike Senator McCain and most other major candidates for the past two elections, performed as a student.

The Obama campaign has refused to release his college transcript, despite an academic career that led him to Harvard Law School and, later, to a lecturing position at the University of Chicago. The shroud surrounding his experience at Columbia contrasts with that of other major party nominees since 2000, all whom have eventually released information about their college performance or seen it leaked to the public.

For better or worse, voters have taken an interest in candidates' grades since 1999, when the New Yorker published President Bush's transcript at Yale and disclosed that he was a C student. Mr. Bush had never portrayed himself as a brain, but many were surprised to learn the next year that his opponent, Vice President Gore, did not do much better at Harvard despite his intellectual image. When Senator Kerry's transcript surfaced, reporters found that he actually had a slightly lower average at Yale than Mr. Bush did.

Some political observers cite such disclosures as proof that candidates' intelligence cannot be judged solely by their political careers or the schools they attended. Grades provide a rare measure of intellect that is immune to political spin, proponents say.

"We like to pretend IQ doesn't matter, but it really does with a lot of jobs, including the presidency," a professor at Smith College who studies the effects of human intelligence on the economy, James Miller, said. "We can't trust the information that candidates give us, so it's important to look for objective data that they can't falsify or distort."

Mr. Miller acknowledged that Mr. Obama displayed academic achievement at Harvard, where he graduated magna cum laude and led the Harvard Law Review. Still, Mr. Miller said, he would like to see information about how Mr. Obama performed in various subjects at Columbia.

That view is not shared by other election observers, including some who have themselves indulged the public's interest in candidates' academic records. One of them is Geoffrey Kabaservice, a political historian who in 2000 published Senator Bradley's relatively low score of 485 on the verbal SAT. Mr. Bradley, a Rhodes Scholar who was a star basketball player at Princeton, was running for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"It's awfully hard to correlate anything, really, about a person on the basis of their grades," Mr. Kabaservice said, explaining that he published Mr. Bradley's score to highlight limitations in intelligence testing. He said he doubted that candidates' grades have affected the outcome of any recent presidential elections.

"For people who didn't like George W. Bush, for example, the grade aspect only confirmed what they thought about him," Mr. Kabaservice said. "And for everybody else, it made him more of a regular guy."

The Obama campaign declined to comment for this article and did not offer an explanation for why his transcript has not been released. But observers speculated that one reason might be the racially charged nature of the election. Mr. Obama has acknowledged benefiting from affirmative action in the past, and details about his academic performance might open him up to critics eager to accuse him, probably unfairly, of receiving a free ride, Mr. Kabaservice said.

"Anyone who is a minority and who's come up partially through the meritocracy — getting into good colleges, and subsequently good law schools — is going to come under suspicion that there was some kind of affirmative action boost," he said. "I suspect this is an area of discomfort for Obama."

In contrast with the rest of Mr. Obama's life story, little is known about his college experience. He attended Occidental College in Los Angeles for two years before transferring to Columbia in 1981. The move receives only a mention in Mr. Obama's 1995 memoir, "Dreams from My Father," which instead devotes that chapter to his impressions of race and class struggles in New York.

An article in a Columbia University publication, Columbia College Today, reported that Mr. Obama has portrayed Columbia as a period of buckling down following a troubled adolescence. He did not socialize much, he has said, instead spending a lot of time in the library, "like a monk." He has also stated that he was involved to some extent with the Black Students Organization.

Federal law limits the information that Columbia can release about Mr. Obama's time there. A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors, Mr. Connolly said, though specific information on his grades is sealed. A program from the 1983 graduation ceremony lists him as a graduate.

More is known about Mr. McCain's experience at the United States Naval Academy, where he was a self-described troublemaker and graduated in the bottom 1% of his class. The McCain campaign has declined to release his transcript, saying that his performance at the academy can only be viewed in the context of his larger military career.

"His record stands on its own," a McCain spokesman, Peter Feldman, said. "His time spent in college was part of the transformative years that made him who he was."

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2010, 03:40:43 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/could-this-be-obamas-waterloo.html

Could this be Obama's Waterloo!?

Tuesday, May 18, 2010

Obama’s Waterloo - Jayme Evans - If recently published reports are true, and I have no reason to doubt they are, then the judgment, reputation and credibility of many a journalist and politician have been irrevocably destroyed along with the myths planted by Barack Obama, who apparently has a great deal of explaining to do about who he is, where he came from and why he’s using another person’s Social Security number.

In a May 11, 2010 article, WorldNetDaily’s Jerome Corsi reports that two independent investigations by two different investigators in two different states (using two different data sources) discovered that the Social Security number used by Barack Obama mysteriously coincides with Social Security numbers verified to have been issued by the state of Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a full two years after Obama’s first, publicly-documented record of employment at a Hawaii Baskin-Robbins back in 1975. OUCH.

For over a year, those who value the Constitution and still possess critical thinking skills have insisted that something in Barack Obama’s records (or, rather what isn’t in Obama’s records) stinks to High Heaven. As a result of that public skepticism, we’ve been viciously attacked by so-called “journalists”, politicians, pundits and Obama’s base. Some who dared question, like Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, even face career-ending prosecutions as a result.

Lakin’s story has been completely ignored by the mainstream media. A US Army officer defying orders, challenging the legitimacy of the President of the United States and facing court-martial is a huge international story by any measure. It garnered 196,008 hits on Yahoo and 146,000 hits on Google. But, for the Associated Press, it’s quite a different story. Despite their empty protestations of the people’s right to know, not one single hit on the search term “Lt. Col. Terry Lakin” was found in the AP’s exhaustive, world-wide archives:

It matters not if Barack Obama stonewalls, if the AP ignores the story or if Bill O’Reilly wishes it away; for it does appear that the smoking gun pointing to Obama’s illegitimacy may have finally been located, although O’Reilly’s journalistic giblets and his apology to the good Lt. Col. remain MIA. O’Reilly’s dismissal of those wanting Obama to prove his eligibility is no different than politicians dismissing Tea Party concerns over health care cost or effects without reading the bill; willful ignorance. Unfortunately for the O’Reillys of the world who have staked their professional reputations on the silly notion that the issue had been resolved by a newspaper ad, it hasn’t.

The evidence uncovered by these two private investigators was arrived at independently and fits perfectly with the numerous allegations of forged documentation made previously, particularly Obama’s Selective Service registration.

•Those who dismissed this issue poo-pooed the Constitutional question as trite and irrelevant.

•They said the election decided the issue.

•They said Barack Obama had been vetted.

•They said the issue of his eligibility had been “raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry”.

•They said we were kooks; that there were more important issues we needed to consider.

•They alleged a huge “birther” conspiracy cooked up by racist Neanderthals who also believed the Earth was flat.

If this report is true, Barack Obama committed the crime of identity theft and quite likely used the poison fruits of that crime to usurp the office of President of the United States, just like I and others who had the courage to go on record had said he did.

But I’ll go a step further: He couldn’t pull something like this off alone. He would have needed help forging documents and forming the alleged conspiracy. Besides his inner circle, that help would have lurked within Health and Human Services, the Social Security Administration or another federal agency. His co-conspirators must be tracked down, arrested, tried and if found guilty, they must be thrown in the US Army’s Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth along with this phony. All social security numbers used by the usurper must be traced to their points of origin and any discrepancies must be investigated, punished and fully disclosed in a public forum.

These two investigators stand solidly behind their claims. The time for concrete answers to the questions surrounding just who America elected in 2008 are long overdue. The evidence that he isn’t who he says he is has now become too overwhelming to ignore. The damage he’s doing to our economy and social structure is far too extensive to allow this evil charade to continue any longer.

Senator Jim DeMint said that health care legislation would be Obama’s Waterloo. DeMint was right that there would be a Waterloo, but health care wasn’t it. Nor will it be energy, jobs, taxes, Cap and Trade, free speech, or any other 1,000-page legislative priority. It won’t even be his birth certificate. It will quite likely be two other pieces of documentation, both of which he subverted for his own twisted aims; a social security number and the US Constitution. - end.

Jayme Evans is a veteran of the United States Navy, military analyst, conservative columnist and an advocate and voice for disabled and other veterans. He has served for many years as a Subject Matter Expert in systems software testing, and currently serves as a technical lead in that capacity. He has extensively studied amateur astronomy and metallurgy, as well as military and US history.

Source: War of Wits, also published at

CanadaFreePress.com.

BirtherReport.com

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on May 18, 2010, 03:54:55 pm
I worked at an ice cream store in 1978 for months without a social security number in Michigan.  It could be done back then, in fairness.  However, if he was working without one then, he should have said so.

I was thirteen, BTW, I am a "natural born citizen" and I earned a whole 1.00$ an hour to start, but I got a raise of 10 cents after a couple of months.

The couple I was working for witheld S.S. even before I got my number. It's O.K., they fired me for stealing, which in fact I was guilty of.  I've stopped doing that.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2010, 06:56:29 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/manning-trial-update-obama-columbia_18.html

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Via the Conservative Monster, 5/18/10;

The verdict is in - the jury found
Obama and Columbia University
GUILTY of ALL CHARGES.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2010, 07:03:47 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/pay-attention-obots-and-misinformed.html

Monday, May 17, 2010

Pay Attention Obots and Misinformed Conservatives, it's natural-born Citizen, class time. Got Schooled!?

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The first comment below is from a "conservative commenter" at one of my ORYR Facebook groups. [ Editor's  note: commenter added "natural born" in front of Citizen as if it's in the law. ]  The comment is typical misinformation posted by the paid  Obots across the web.  The second comment is a rebuttal courtesy of Attorney Mario Apuzzo.

The misinformation that is being spread must be flushed out with facts.  The Obots, and the misinformed, never leave any links to back their claims up and when you respond with facts they just attack and run.

It's not hard to figure this issue out, it's elementary!

I do find most people's comments on what a "natural-born Citizen" is IS the same as birthers aka duelers aka constitutionalers. Enjoy!

Thanks Attorney Apuzzo for your time to set the record straight on the legal aspect of this issue.

comment from the "conservative" commenter; Obama's citizenship will be determined under the 1952 version of the Immigration and Nationality Act since he was born in 1961 and the Act wasn't updated again until 1966. [ Editor's note: As you will see in Attorney Mario Apuzzo's rebuttal below the words added and shown in brackets by the commenter are NOT in that section of the 1952 law and in fact are not even in the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 at all. The words "natural born Citizen" appear nowhere in the 1952 Act. ]

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Attorney Mario Apuzzo's response to the above misleading comment.

Sec. 301(a)(5), cited by the commentator, is not applicable to Obama because if Obama were not born in the United States, there is no information that he may have been "born in an outlying possession of the United States." Rather, the information is that he may have been born in Kenya, which is not an outlying possession of the United States. If Obama were born in Kenya, the only statute that could apply to give him United States citizenship is Sec. 301 (a)(7). That section provides:

"SEC. 301.

(a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

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(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: /Provided,/ That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph."

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As we well know, Obama's 18 year-old mother was too young to give him U.S. citizenship under this statute or any other Congressional Act. Additionally, even if Obama could obtain U.S. citizenship "at birth" under this statute or any other Congressional Act, it would not make him an Article II "natural born Citizen." A person obtaining U.S. citizenship under such a Congressional statute would be a naturalized citizen "at birth," not an Article II "natural born Citizen."

The commentator also misquotes Sec. 305 which correctly quoted provides in pertinent part: "A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth." This statue would apply to Obama only if he were born in Hawaii. Also, even if so born, the statute does not make him an Article II "natural born Citizen," but rather only a "citizen of the United States" "at birth." Additionally, if Obama were born in Hawaii, the Fourteenth Amendment would also make him a born "citizen of the United States." This status is also not necessarily that of a "natural born Citizen," for one could be granted that status under that amendment as currently interpreted even though at the time of birth one was born in the United States to one or two alien parents. Born United States citizen status under the Fourteenth Amendment, which only constitutionalized a Congressional Act known as the Civil Rights Act of 1866, is no different from Congress granting through its naturalization powers born "citizen of the United States" status except that one is receiving that status from the Constitution rather than a Congressional Act. As it relates to federal citizenship, the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to grant born "citizen of the United States" status to those who were born in the United States while "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." Its purpose was not to amend the definition of an Article II "natural born Citizen" which would have changed the eligibility requirements to be President (like changing the age or residency requirements). Such a drastic change to the Constitution and to the eligibility requirements to be President and Commander in Chief would have had to be done by explicit constitutional amendment and not by stealth.

The commentator is rather dishonest to, for his convenience, misquote the Congressional Acts by injecting into them the phrase "natural born Citizen." There is no such Act (except for the Naturalization Act of 1790 that contained the phrase but which was repealed in 1795) which contains the clause. Congress only has the constitutional power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 to make uniform the naturalization laws. While that power includes making persons naturalized citizens "at birth," that power does not include making anyone an Article II "natural born Citizen," which status is not made by operation of positive or municipal law but rather by natural law and the law of nations and which is one of the requirements for Presidential eligibility and like age and residency, cannot be changed by Congress without a constitutional amendment.

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BIRTHER REPORT RECAP & UPDATES: As previously reported HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE. Obama's campaign & supporters posted 4 different images of a Certification of Live Birth on the Internet.  Several document and computer image experts have deemed the Obama COLB(s) as fakes. If you have not yet researched the Obama COLB then this report from the Post & Email will explain it point by point. More from previous reports below the P&E report.

Via the Post & Email; - Obama’s Forged “Certification of Live Birth”: The Evidence - DID FACTCHECK PROVIDE THE LINK BETWEEN THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND THE 2008 PASSPORT FILE BREACHES? ...must read report HERE. ...and HERE & HERE & HERE.

Before you go there check out the 4 different Obama COLBs posted online by Obama's campaign. Also, if you missed it, meet the only 2 people to examine the Factcheck.org COLB(s), and one of them wasn't Bill O'Reilly;


1) Daily Kos COLB; http://palabre.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bo_birth_certificate-kos.jpg


2) Fight the Smears COLB;
http://www.fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg


3) Factcheck.org COLB with seal;
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg


4) Factcheck.org COLB without seal;
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg


Everyone must view all the research compiled at this site;
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/

5/12/10 - Obama's 'CERTIFICATION of Live Birth' form reveals Birth Registration FILED but never fully ACCEPTED!

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The two FactCheck.org employees who were granted access to Obama’s bogus Certification of Live Birth (COLB) are NOT document examiners or experts. Joe Miller has a Ph. D. in Political Philosophy — so he’s a political operative — while Jess Henig has an M.A. in English Literature — I’m not sure her dye-job is a political or esthetic statement.They are a couple of partisan Obots — just what you’d expect — Jess took the photos presented on their webpage and did all of the writing, while Bob basically held the COLB open for Jess to photograph — suitable work for a Ph. D.

Those two are completely unqualified to perform any kind of forensic examination of any document, and FactCheck.org knows it — and so do Henig and Miller.

FactCheck does say their, “representatives got a chance to spend some time with the ‘birth certificate,’ and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago.” In my mind, that clearly shows they were working with and for the Obama Campaign and that Obama and his people are involved in this lie. Much more HERE.

And this; - Blogger manipulates birth certificate image, undermining Obama claims - Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of palpably fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears. Much more HERE and HERE.

And this oldie; Hawaii Officials refuse to verify president's online COLBs images released by Obama's campaign and FactCheck.org...
In response to a direct question from WND, the Hawaii Department of Health refused to authenticate either of the two versions of President Obama's short-form Certificate of Live Birth, or COLB, posted online – neither the image produced by the Obama campaign nor the images released by FactCheck.org. Janice Okubu, the public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, also had no explanation for why Dr. Fukino's initial press release last October and subsequent press release also avoided declaring the posted images to be of authentic documents.

FactCheck.org, an organization funded by the same left-leaning Annenberg Foundation that also employed Barack Obama and former Weatherman radical bomber Bill Ayers, produced a short-form Obama COLB that was very different in appearance than the campaign released. Source. And much more HERE.

Forgery is nothing new to the Obama campaign, via Debbie Schlussel; Obama’s Selective Service Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions.
Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this(last) year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?
It’s either one or the other, as indicated by the release of Barack Obama’s official Selective Service registration for the draft. The full investigative report is HERE.

/11/10 - About time WND; Investigators: Obama using Connecticut issued Soc. Sec. Number... - Source.

And via Give us Liberty; EXPLOSIVE...more proof that AKA OBAMA is a fraud and very likely not even an American citizen!... - Obama conspiracy – It’s no longer just a theory - A man who fails to register with SS before turning 26 may find that some doors are permanently closed. This is a must read HERE.

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Bonus; CONFIRMED: Factcheck.org Published Bogus Fact Regarding Obama’s British/Kenyan Citizenship. We can report that it has been conclusively established – the Factcheck.org report contains false information. Factcheck.org – Inaccuracy #1: Obama’s Kenyan Citizenship did not expire on Aug 4, 1982. Factcheck.org was absolutely wrong when they reported Obama’s Kenyan citizenship expired on Aug 4, 1982.

Factcheck.org – Inaccuracy #2: While Obama’s status as a British citizen may have been short lived, Factcheck.org failed to state that his status as a British subject was not short lived. Research has discovered multiple legal mechanisms which have the potential to establish that Obama is now a full citizen of Kenya as well as the United Kingdom, the European Union, the Commonwealth of Nations and the Republic of Indonesia. Source.

Will any person in the media ever mention what is going on in Hawaii?

News Recap: We don't care what you or the State of Hawaii says. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THE BACKGROUND OF THE PERSON WE EMPLOY! Hawaii is obligated by their own laws to release records they used to make public statements that Obama is a "natural born Citizen."

Via the Associated Press; By MARK NIESSE, Associated Press Writer – 3/17/10 - Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers' -

HONOLULU – Birthers beware: Hawaii may start ignoring your repeated requests for proof that President Barack Obama was born here.

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As the state continues to receive e-mails seeking Obama's birth certificate, the state House Judiciary Committee heard a bill Tuesday permitting government officials to ignore people who won't give up.

"Sometimes we may be dealing with a cohort of people who believe lack of evidence is evidence of a conspiracy," said Lorrin Kim, chief of the Hawaii Department of Health's Office of Planning, Policy and Program Development.

So-called "birthers" claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States, and therefore doesn't meet a constitutional requirement for being president. [NOT TRUE, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN.]

Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued statements last year and in October 2008 saying that she's seen vital records that prove Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

But the state still gets between 10 and 20 e-mails seeking verification of Obama's birth each week, most of them from outside Hawaii, Kim said Tuesday.

A few of these requesters continue to pepper the Health Department with the same letters seeking the same information, even after they're told state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest. Responding wastes time and money, Kim said.

Both Fukino and the state registrar of vital statistics have verified that the Health Department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

The issue coincides with Sunshine Week, when news organizations promote open government and freedom of information.

"Do we really want to be known internationally as the Legislature that blocked any inquiries into where President Obama was born?" asked Rep. Cynthia Thielen, R-Kaneohe-Kailua. "When people want to get more information, the way to fuel that fire is to say, 'We're now going to draw down a veil of secrecy.'"

Nobody at the hearing questioned the fact that the president was born in Hawaii.

Attorney Peter Fritz asked why the state would pass a law punishing repetitive requests for open records. Instead, the state could simply say it would only answer each person's question once.

If the measure passed, the state Office of Information Practices could declare an individual a "vexatious requester" and restrict rights to government records for two years.

The committee will schedule a vote on the measure, said Chairman Jon Riki Karamatsu, D-Waipahu-Waikele. The measure is SB2937. On the Net: Hawaii Legislature, http://capitol.hawaii.gov -end Source.

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The problem is Mark(ap) is only reporting about the law that is about to be passed(or not). He ignores the fact the law will be used to further obfuscate laws already on the books. Below are reports compiled from the past year on the Hawaii DoH(not in order).

UPDATE(5/13/10) - Hawaii Gov Linda Lingle Does Away with Freedom of Information, Signs Law Denying Access to Obama's Birth Records. - More here.


- Hawaiian Law Demands Obama records be made public - Hawaii officials are breaking Hawaiian law in not disclosing how they came to the public declarations made on October 31st, 2008 and July 27th, 2009 and now May 2nd, 2010. The hole Hawaiian officials had dug themselves with these declarations is deep, and there is no legal ladder out, other than to make public the resources and information they used in order to come to their conclusions. more HERE.

- Barack Obama and State of Hawaii on the ropes - According to law, the State of Hawaii must now disclose how it came to the decision that is found in Director Fukino’s July 27th Press Release that was approved by the State’s Attorney General. Haw. Rev. Stat. 28-4 states very clearly that formal opinions of the Attorney General must be made public. Further, the Hawaiian Office of Information Practices in 1991 formally set out the requirements that informal opinions of the AG must also be made available for public inspection. According to Donofrio, under the Uniform Rules of Evidence (Rule 510): “when the conclusions of an informal Attorney General opinion are made public by the agency/client, then the accompanying record of that opinion must also be disclosed to the public:” more HERE.

- HI Officials Don’t Like Questions; Stats In; Complaint Filed; Attorney: Questions OK - more HERE. more archives at the Right Side of Life HERE.

- HI Director of Department of Health Perjures Herself before HI Senate Committee - STATEMENTS SEEN AS ATTEMPT TO DEFEND HERSELF AND DEPARTMENT FROM INQUIRIES REGARDING CONFLICTING PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON OBAMA’S VITAL RECORDS. more HERE.

- HI Department of Health Publicly rebuffs inquiries for Obama’s vital records - DOSSIER OF EXCUSES APPEARS ON WEB IN LAST 6 HOURS? more HERE.

- HI Department of Health refuses OIP’s request -
THAT THEY DISCLOSE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS BY DEC. 21st. more HERE. Complete archive of reports from the Post & Email can be viewed HERE.

Leo Donofrio's reports; TerriK INVESTIGATION – PART 1: Hawaii Department of Health Directors Fukino and Okubo Are Guilty of Misdirection. more HERE.

TerriK INVESTIGATION, PART 2: OIP Staff Attorney Linden Joesting’s Response to TerriK’s Appeal Appears To Confirm That The DoH Maintains Amended Vital Records For President Obama. more HERE.

TerriK INVESTIGATION, Part 3: Hawaii AG Mark Bennett Approved Fukino’s Natural-Born Citizen Statement; All Records Should Be Made Public According To Law. more HERE.

DoH Reverses Course – Releases Index Data For President Obama, Stanley Ann and Barack, Sr; No Records For Maya Exist. more HERE.

OKUBO CAUGHT AGAIN: Admits Providing False Information Regarding DoH Maintenance Of Divorce Records. more HERE.

Complete archive of Donofrio's reports can be viewed HERE. More HERE at Butterdezillion Blog.

Before the above proposed law; - Bill would force Obama to reveal birth documents - Hawaii senator: 'Why wouldn't they be available to the public?' Hawaii state Sen. Will Espero, a Democrat, has confirmed plans to introduce legislation through which the state's lawmakers would force the public disclosure of all President Obama's birth documents held by the Hawaii Department of Health, including President Obama’s long-form original birth certificate.

Espero told WND his bill is aimed at "giving citizens access to birth records" under a standard of government transparency which would permit journalists to request in writing the public disclosure of vital birth records including long-form birth certificates of all persons born in Hawaii. He said it would include the release of birth records on those previously born in Hawaii. more HERE.

- Officials confirm 'Obama document' not necessarily accurate - The online image posted by the Obama campaign of a "Certification of Live Birth" continues to be used as a source of documentation for the president's birth place, even though previous reports have revealed there is little proof that can be derived from the document.

A new example came just as news broke of the statement by Hawaii State Health Director Chiyome Fukino that she had reviewed the "records" and confirmed that "Barrack Hussein Obama" was born in Hawaii. more HERE.

- Hawaii Officials refuse to verify president's online COLBs images released by Obama's campaign and FactCheck.org - In response to a direct question from WND, the Hawaii Department of Health refused to authenticate either of the two versions of President Obama's short-form Certificate of Live Birth, or COLB, posted online – neither the image produced by the Obama campaign nor the images released by FactCheck.org. Janice Okubu, the public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, also had no explanation for why Dr. Fukino's initial press release last October and subsequent press release last week also avoided declaring the posted images to be of authentic documents. more HERE.

Let us see what some have said about this issue over the last year;

"Hawaii state law won't allow them to release it unless the president authorizes it. So what's the problem here? Release the original and let's be done with this madness. John McCain faced similar questions and promptly responded by releasing his original birth certificate. That's how normal people with nothing to hide handle these things" - Mark Joseph - July 30, 2009 - Huffington Post columnist Source.

Huffington Post Blogger Carol Swain, a professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University, says President Obama should just release his original long-form birth certificate and have done with the dispute. "I believe that the president should end the speculation by being transparent about all aspects of his background," Swain said. "In fact, it can be argued that the president belongs to the people and to scholars, biographers and others who are entitled to know every aspect of his past. Swain said the president is inexplicably fueling the controversy.

"The very fact that Obama has fought tooth and nail to prevent any release of his original long-form birth certificate- as well as other documentation- "suggests there's something that the president has decided not to share with the public." Source.

Feminist Camille Paglia: Birthers have a point. Tells radio audience 'there are legitimate questions about the documentation'. Feminist icon Camille Paglia, a Salon.com columnist who earlier wrote about the ambiguities of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, now has told a National Public Radio audience that those who have questions about his eligibility actually have a point.

Talking to the NPR program "On Point" this week, she provided a defense to the citizens who carried protest signs asking "Where's The Birth Certificate" at the recent protests that drew hundreds of thousands to Washington.

Paglia, a professor of humanities and media studies at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia and Salon.com columnist, earlier wrote, "Yes, there were ambiguities about Obama's birth certificate that have never been satisfactorily resolved. And the embargo on Obama's educational records remains troubling." Source. More HERE and HERE from World Net daily.

My favorite; Media actually probed other candidates Records except Obama's. In the last 18 years, highly personal information has been published about presidential candidates, including divorce and alimony details, drunk driving arrest records, college grades, urinalysis results, prostate cancer surgery- even details about George W. Bush's hemorrhoid troubles.

The media have dredged up medical, military, college and detailed records for Republican and Democratic Party candidates in at least the last five elections. Candidates were subject to intense scrutiny of their health conditions, academic performance and military careers.

However, while such private information about other candidates was divulged, we still have yet to see President Obama present his elusive long-form birth certificate and most other documents that remain unreleased or otherwise blocked from the public eye. Source.

Previous reports on the Hawaii DOH, HERE. Check back daily for updates!

Member of the Kenyan Assembly on March 25th, 2010, admits that Obama was born in Kenya. See page 31

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/pay-attention-obots-and-misinformed.html




Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on May 19, 2010, 01:33:13 am
I dont know if anyone posted this already, but is this the missing site?  If they already posted it sorry I didnt see it.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=150157.msg1019237#msg1019237 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=150157.msg1019237#msg1019237)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 19, 2010, 11:11:42 am
I dont know if anyone posted this already, but is this the missing site?  If they already posted it sorry I didnt see it.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=150157.msg1019237#msg1019237 (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=150157.msg1019237#msg1019237)

Thanks. but I think you mean this one:

Holy Shit! Chris Matthews accidently exposes the NWO birth certificate agenda!!!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=121171.0

This was the original thread started by Sane when the MSM was going bat shite crazy to discredit the Birther Movement.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 19, 2010, 11:19:10 am
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/manning-trial-update-obama-columbia_18.html

Manning Trial Update: The Obama Columbia University Trial - Summary of Day five - GUILTY of ALL CHARGES!

Tuesday, May 18, 2010

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Via the Conservative Monster, 5/18/10; The verdict is in - the jury found Obama and Columbia University GUILTY of ALL CHARGES.

The past few days have been very intense on all of us that took part in this very interesting event. The jury deliberated for over 3 hours until they came up with the verdict. The defendants were found guilty on all charges and there were so many, but I will basically give you all a quick review.

Mail fraud, wire fraud, Obstruction of Justice and Sedition were the main charges. I would have found Columbia University not guilty of any charges that involved them knowingly undermining the country. I just do not think they knew back in 1981 that they were taking part in a conspiracy to undermine the Government. Their silence about Obama attending Columbia University during his campaign does not meet that level of conspiracy in my opinion. I do not think that was proven, but they can appeal it if they like


Day 5 - Witness Miki Booth


Miki Booth is a Hawaiian born native that is running for congress in Oklahoma, District 2. Booth held up birth certificates that were real long form birth certificates from Hawaii. She then explained the difference between a certificate of Live Birth and a Certification of Live Birth (what Obama posted on Factcheck.org).

Booth testified that anyone could get a Certification of Live Birth, it does not prove ANYTHING. Then she discussed the birth announcements and she stated that anyone could put that in the paper if they want to notify the town about a new baby in the family.


Wayne Allyn Root


Manning discussed his phone call with Wayne Allyn Root and about the article that Root posted on the Internet . many libertarians attacked Root for even considering to testify at this trial. Also, many Columbia University Alumni contacted him as well. What are they afraid of? Root said he never saw or heard of any student named Barack Obama at Columbia University at that time that Obama claims he attended the school. Root had the same major as Barry, but still never heard of him.


Manning submitted the article as evidence.


Next, Manning described a letter that he got from a former KGB agent that was also a double agent with the CIA. The informant Mike, stated that Obama worked with the CIA for 4 years (1981-1985) in Pakistan assisting the Mujahadeen fighters during the Soviet-Afghan war.

Manning then stated that factions of the CIA and the KGB are working together to install a socialist government and that Bill Clinton, Leon Panetta, Rahm Emanuel and Obama are all in on it. This means that there has been a conspiracy for at least the past 20 years to create a super spy agency. This spy agency would blackmail and assassinate the opposition, the Republicans were targets.

This was called "The Professional System". A KGB like security force that will undermine freedom and elections in the United States, to shove this nation into a socialist state.

This KGB agent claimed that the CIA was more interested in American citizens, rather than foreign enemies. Basically he is saying that they have been compromised by the enemy.


Manning - They put out a hit on me


Pastor Manning then stated that he was informed by a disgruntled CIA agent that a hit was put on his head by the CIA. This was by an anonymous caller and it was just two days after the CIA, Homeland Security and the NYPD visited Manning's church. Manning claims that the hit was called off when the assassin refused to accept the order to kill Pastor Manning. Pastor Manning is calling for the Justice Department to investigate this alleged conspiracy to assassinate him.

Manning then claimed that the CIA Operative told him to dig into Columbia University rather than the birth certificate issue, because it was clear that Obama never attended Columbia University, because he was working with the CIA in Pakistan at the time that he was allegedly attending the University.



Pastor Manning then stated that "Columbia University did not cover their tracks well". Then he commented "If John McCain is not qualified, I know for sure that Barack Hussein Obama is not qualified for the office either."

Obama said that his father was Kenyan in his book and the debate ends right there, he is NOT a natural born citizen.

Manning also stated that Obama traveled to Pakistan with a Kenyan Passport, not a Indonesian passport that has been speculated the past 22 months.


Obama's records are not sealed by the courts, they are sealed by the CIA.


Manning then shouted, "What are you hiding Mr. Obama? The people need to ask this question. Only criminals hide themselves and Obama is the most notorious criminal that ever walked the earth."

Then Manning solemnly said, "My life was challenged by MY GOVERNMENT. Obama is a Muslim and the Church failed this nation to allow this to take place."

Pastor Manning then told the jury "If a guilty verdict is rendered today, it will rock the world. You will save this nation, save my life and the lives of YOUR CHILDREN. Every dollar that Obama has collected was under fraudulent pretenses, because he is not a natural born citizen.


The Verdict


I am sure that Pastor Manning will release an official copy in the near future of all of the charges and the verdict. The church erupted with applause and cheers after the final guilty verdict was announced. Pastor Manning was very excited and he did an excellent job with this entire trial, aided by his assistant Anthony Jones (an attorney).

Manning will most likely submit all of the evidence and the verdict to the US Attorney General and demand that they investigate, validate the decision by the jury and move forward with possible arrests. I do agree that fraud was committed, Manning proved that to the entire audience and the jury.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 19, 2010, 06:53:49 pm
Steve Cooper of Conservative Monster has been diligently reporting out what has gone on since last Friday at ATLAH World Ministries and conducted by Birther Minister, James David Manning, pastor of the church in Harlem. The “court”  found President Obama and Columbia University guilty of all “charges” yesterday afternoon.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10359

Obama's aunt granted asylum -

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/obamas-kenyan-aunt-granted-asylum-she.html


Orly: Obama Persecuting Me with Placenta Painting!

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10379


Former KGB officer testify at Columbia Trial

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/18/report-former-kgb-officer-to-testify-at-columbia-trial/


The Senate defined “natural born Citizen” in 2008, and Obama didn’t qualify

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/17/the-senate-defined-natural-born-citizen-in-2008-and-obama-didnt-qualify/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 19, 2010, 07:19:34 pm
From Menace's above post--

Former KGB officer testify at Columbia Trial

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/18/report-former-kgb-officer-to-testify-at-columbia-trial/


HAS THE CIA CREATED A PAST FOR OBAMA TO HIDE HIS ACTIVITIES FROM 1981 TO 1983?


by Sharon Rondeau

Columbia University claims that it awarded Obama an undergraduate degree in 1983

(May 18, 2010) — Columbia University claims here that Obama was a graduate of that institution in 1983.  However, to date, none of his college records or theses have been made available to the public.  Columbia’s statement places equal emphasis on Obama’s being the “first African American elected President of the United States” and his alleged graduation from the institution, and it does not discuss Obama’s coursework or contributions to Columbia while attending.

SHARON: How many people would you say marched with you around Columbia University this morning?

MIKI: I think about 50-60.  We were 25-30 deep.

SHARON: What time did you arrive?

MIKI: We were there at 8:30 a.m. and the march started at 9:00 and took about an hour.  After that we went to the church and the trial started at about 10:30 or perhaps 11:00.

SHARON: Who is acting as prosecutor?

MIKI: That would be Rev. Manning.

SHARON: I heard that he has some lawyers serving or helping with the proceedings.

MIKI: Yes, but I don’t know who they are yet.  I haven’t met the members of the jury.  I can tell you that Alan Keyes was supposed to testify and he had a long talk with Rev. Manning after he spoke with his lawyers, who said that because he has a number of cases ongoing, attending the trial might hurt him.  So we didn’t come, and then there was someone else with the same situation where they wanted to be here, but again, it wouldn’t be in their best interest to attend the trial, so they bowed out as well.  That goes for anyone who has an open case.  However, they all gave their support to Rev. Manning, the trial, and for all of us.

I got to meet Capt. Pamela Barnett here.  I don’t know if she has testified during the past few days or so, but Rev. Manning gave a briefing of some of the other things that went on.

SHARON: This was your first day there, correct?

MIKI: Yes.  Getting back to the march, it was the most spiritual thing…it made me feel so happy inside to be walking hand-in-hand with people who, if not for all of this that has happened, I never would have seen myself in Harlem, being among the local folks there, whose hearts are so big and they’re such good people, and they know that this is wrong.  They’re praying to God that we break this open and prove this guy is a fraud.  It was just such a spiritual thing, and I felt good inside.  I was noticing that it’s a liberal town, and people were looking at us with raised eyebrows and strange looks and yet, you would also see the people who felt good about seeing us in the march.

SHARON: Do you think most passersby not associated with Dr. Manning’s church know what’s going on?

MIKI: No, I don’t think they do.  There’s a member of American Grand Jury named Rudy who brought the signs depicting a Taliban member on it who made signs out of the flyers and there were about four of them, and he passed them out and some of Dr. Manning’s parishioners carried those.  One of the jurors brought a gigantic American flag.  There were probably about 10 or 15 American flags that parishioners brought as well, and they passed those out, so you could definitely tell by looking at us that it was a patriotic group.  Patriotic and religious because of Rev. Manning leading.

SHARON: Going back to what you said at the beginning about blacks holding hands with whites:  because of that, it would seem that there really isn’t a racism problem in this country.

MIKI: Yes, there were just as many blacks in our group who believe Obama is a phony.

SHARON: Do you know how Dr. Manning or any of the witnesses prove that Obama did not attend Columbia?  Can he actually prove that he was in Pakistan or wherever he was instead of at Columbia?

MIKI: I don’t know how we prove it, but the only thing that makes sense is that it’s all the CIA.  That would explain why all the records are scrubbed.  There’s one thing that they can’t hide, and that’s the Social Security numbers.  Again, how do you prove that he used those to launder money?

SHARON: Is the theory that the CIA gave Obama a new identity?

MIKI: Absolutely.

SHARON: Did they actually assign him all of these social security numbers, or do you think he did that on his own?

MIKI: Again, if the CIA was behind it, they would be involved in every single aspect of it, because the money that he was getting went to help the Mujahadeen fight the Russian invasion.  Here’s another really interesting thing:  the story is out there that he attended Patrice Lamumba University.  About three weeks ago, I finally found the website for Patrice Lamumba, and it said, “Distinguished Alumni,” and on the list was “Barry Soetoro.”

SHARON: Really?

MIKI: Yes.  And it took you to the Wikipedia page all about “President” Barack Obama and his history.

SHARON: Could that have been set up as a hoax?

MIKI: That was set up as a red herring to throw everyone off the trail of the Pakistan connection.  Anyway, I saw it, and they mentioned that, and someone might have testified about it earlier in the trial.  However, it was brought up again today, and I remember when I first heard about that, it was right after Rev. Manning put out the word about the trial, and right after that, he did a YouTube video where he said, “They’re lying.  They’re going to say that he was actually in Russia attending Patrice Lamumba University” to throw us off.  He also said, “You watch; they’re not going to deny it; they’re going to let you think that that’s where he was, but don’t fall for it.  He was really in Pakistan.”

SHARON: If the CIA gave Obama a new identity or identities, why was he not stopped when he put his hat in the ring to run for president?  Has anyone discussed how he got as far as he did if all his records were scrubbed?

MIKI: We can probably find out.  I heard that he signed an Executive Order to seal all of his records.

SHARON: He did; I recall reading about it shortly after his “coronation.”

MIKI: So no one can get his Punahou or other records.  The ones that they absolutely don’t want anybody seeing are those that were scrubbed such as the passport records which involved Brennan, who worked for that company which worked with the CIA.  They have the means, the wherewithal, to be able to scrub those passport records, and it’s known and reported about that breach where all three, McCain, Clinton and Obama’s records were breached.  So the theory is that the late Lt. Quarles Harris knew something and he was supposedly working with the investigator, but which investigators we don’t know; perhaps just the local cops.  And then he ended up being murdered.  The only person who had a key to open that door was snuffed out.  So that was discussed, and this is material that we had already heard.  But again, there is the CIA connection.  There’s Brennan, and now what’s Brennan doing now?  So it’s just all too cozy.

SHARON: No one could have known 20 years ago that Obama was going to run for president.  Is there a theory that he was recruited by the CIA because he could speak the language?

MIKI: Yes.

SHARON: Why would there have been a need to provide Obama with a fake past?  Others have worked undercover for the CIA but the CIA perhaps doesn’t go to these lengths to hide it.  What is your theory about that?

MIKI: Well, tomorrow they’re calling a witness who is an ex-KGB agent who wants to talk and feels that his life is in danger and he may as well get it out there.  But getting back to the CIA, we know that the United States was financing the pushback against the Russian invasion.  We were working with them and gave them money and guns.  So where do you find these people to recruit to get them to do that?  You look for someone who will fit, with a Muslim background who can speak at least a dialect of their language.  And where do they recruit these people?  They find these loners like Barack Obama at Occidental who are on a foreign-student status (again, those records were scrubbed), but he probably held a passport under the name of “Barry Soetoro” from Indonesia.

SHARON: Has any evidence come out about that yet that you’ve heard?

MIKI: No. There again, those records were either scrubbed…it’s all hidden.  And it’s only the CIA that can do all of this.  No matter how much they did, things have still leaked out.  Almost everything that we’re hearing now we already knew.  It had been leaked out, or we knew about it, and they couldn’t hide that.  But wherever they could hide stuff, they did.  But I think what happened was that they never expected that he would run for president.  First he was a state senator in Illinois, and he used thug techniques to knock off the competition.

SHARON: So nobody was asking about his background then?

MIKI: Not really, because nobody had any reason to wonder about this guy.  So if he didn’t go to Columbia and he was in Pakistan instead, the kind of identity that they would give to him, they pretty-much just remade him.  He had a good start by already having the name “Barack Obama.”  They just tried to get rid of anything that said “Barry Soetoro” so any records with that name such as a passport or anything like that is long gone.

Supposedly the story that they made up was that he attended Columbia and from there, he got into Harvard.  There was another interesting piece of evidence, and I can’t remember his name, but he wrote the letter recommending Obama for Harvard.  That’s another thing that’s been out there but nobody really did anything with it.  So all of these things need to be brought back up so that when people see the timeline, how can they deny that all of this really happened?

How does a “C” student get into a law school like Harvard which only accepts the cream of the crop?  And out of 1,000 applicants or so, how many do they pick?  Fewer than 100, probably.

SHARON: Has the evidence shown so far that he did attend Harvard, or is that in question also?

MIKI: We believe he really did attend Harvard, but the only connection for him to get in there seems to be the president of the school.  Everyone thinks we’re just nuts because they wonder we got this person or that person or all of these people to commit to this conspiracy?  But really, when you narrow it down, it’s really just a few select people from Hawaii.  You’re really looking at one person.  Okubo, is that her name?

SHARON: Okubo is the Health Department spokeswoman and Dr. Fukino is the Director of the Health Department.  How about Governor Lingle, who recently declared that the Health Department’s initial press release stated that Obama was born at Kapiolani?  The press release did not say that.

MIKI: That’s right.  And the hospital will not verify that Obama was born there.

SHARON: Has anything come out on the birthplace that you know of?

MIKI: No.  In fact, Rev. Manning was saying that this whole trial will not address the birthplace because it’s focusing on the Pakistan/CIA/Columbia issue.  We’re focusing on Obama’s character.  Another issue to be covered is that both he and his wife surrendered their law licenses.  They’re trying to find out what happened with Michelle Obama’s license, because it’s been reported that it was revoked, but they’re trying to find out why.  We want to know why both of them apparently lost their law licenses.  You probably have heard this, but after Obama got out of Harvard, he was inspired to help in the poor areas of Chicago.  But before he did that, he said he sent out (and this is in his book), hundreds of resumes for community organizing but couldn’t find a job until he met two ladies in Chicago who helped him get a job.  So that’s his story, but it would seem that he could have acquired any assignment at any prestigious law firm who would want someone with Obama’s background.

SHARON: One would think so.

MIKI: He ended up passing the bar and got his law license and everything, but we think the reason that he went to work for Michelle Robinson’s law firm was that she could manipulate his past, whereas if he had applied to any other law firm, they wouldn’t have hired him because of his sketchy past.

SHARON: Perhaps they might have asked to see his college transcripts?

MIKI: Yes.

SHARON: And if he didn’t attend Columbia, then he wouldn’t have had a legitimate undergraduate degree to show them.  If he didn’t go to Columbia and graduate, how could he have gotten in to Harvard?  Was this also the CIA’s doing?

MIKI: Absolutely.  We believe that’s the deal they made.  Plus he has an unlimited supply of money from the Arabs and everyplace else.

SHARON: Do you know if many reporters been covering the trial?

MIKI: Someone from The New York Times showed up.  At first, Rev. Manning said he didn’t want the press there, but he reversed that position.  However, the Times reporter didn’t stay; he just came in, looked around quickly and looked.  So he missed Al Landry’s testimony on Skype.

Another thing we’re going to pursue which might not come out during the trial is the issue of voter fraud.

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Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 19, 2010, 07:31:48 pm
Again from Menace's above post----

The Senate defined “natural born Citizen” in 2008, and Obama didn’t qualify

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/17/the-senate-defined-natural-born-citizen-in-2008-and-obama-didnt-qualify/

DEMOCRAT SENATOR PATRICK LEAHY AND OTHERS “RESOLVED” THAT IT TOOK TWO CITIZEN PARENTS TO BE A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”


by Tim DeJong

(http://www.thepostemail.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Sir-William-Blackstone.jpg)
Sir William Blackstone, English law scholar whose philosophy was based on the Ten Commandments

(May 17, 2010) —  The simple truth in evidence is Obama’s own declaration that he was born of a British father and is therefore not a “natural born Citizen.”

The Constitution is a modest document. Much of its meaning is in what is usually called common law. Some assume common law refers to Blackstone or English Common Law. The framers and many justices, Joseph Story among them, have referred to Vattel as our common law. Given that the first school of law established at a college in the Congress United (between the Revolution and the ratification) was that created at William and Mary by Thomas Jefferson, when James Madison was its president, and among its first students was John Marshall, and the stated structure of the curriculum was Law of Nations based upon Vattel and Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations. Can there be any doubt about the intent of the framers when justices including subsequent Chief Justice John Marshall cited Vattel when quoting “born on the soil of parents who are its citizens?” When the principal author of the 14th amendment, John Bingham, cites Vattel “about which there has never been doubt,” the meaning of “natural born Citizen” is confirmed for at least the twentieth time.

James Madison said:

I entirely concur in the propriety of resorting to the sense in which the Constitution was accepted and ratified by the nation. In that sense alone it is the legitimate Constitution. And if that be not the guide in expounding it, there can be no security for a consistent and stable, more than for a faithful exercise of its powers. If the meaning of the text be sought in the changeable meaning of the words composing it, it is evident that the shapes and attributes of the Government must partake of the changes to which the words and phrases of all living languages are constantly subject. What a metamorphosis would be produced in the code of law if all its ancient phraseology were to be taken in its modern sense. And that the language of our constitution is already undergoing interpretations unknown to its founders, will I believe appear to all unbiased Enquirers into the history of its origin and adoption.” Madison’s words define “the time-honored canons of statutory interpretation.” The words of our framers citing Vattel, and the subsequent use of the term coined by Vattel, “natural born Citizen” – not “subject.”

Framer Dr. David Ramsay pointed out in 1791:

A citizen of the United States means a member of this new nations. The principle of government being radically changed by the revolution, the political character of the people was also changed from subjects to citizens.

The difference is immense. Subject is derived from the Latin words, sub and jacio, and means one who is under the power of another; but a citizen is an unit of a mass of free people, who, collectively, possess sovereignty.

The Constitutional power to define “natural born Citizens” was not intended to be left to the states.  It was our common law, understood by every jurist of the time in the most quoted, the most cited, and the most important legal document in the framing of our Republic. The  Law of Nations was the most cited legal reference by almost a factor of four between 1789 and 1821 (followed by Bynkeshoek and Pufendorf).

The notion of “sovereign legal instruments” is a new twist.” We don’t need “sovereign legal instruments” to tell us that the four chief justices and dozens of justices of the Supreme Court who cite Vattel on “natural born Citizen,” and hundreds who cite Vattel on other legal matters (try to count the Vattel citations in James Wilson’s Philadelphia Lectures) have established our common law. There are well over 100 terms used in articles and amendments not defined in the body of the document. That was intentional. Madison, above, determined to keep the Constitution concise. A major role of the Supreme Court is to interpret the Constitution’s provisions.

Some of those submitting smoke are actually being paid by the White House, which in itself is a frightening testament to how close to tyranny we are.

Of course one could turn to that great legal scholar, Sen. Patrick Leahy, who agreed with former judge and HSA Secretary Michael Chertoff in 2008 when Chertoff said, “It is my understanding that a natural born citizen has two parents who are citizens.” This was, of course, part of the plot culminating in Senate Resolution 511 to insure that John McCain would be perceived as eligible to run against Obama, thereby silencing any questions about Obama’s failure to satisfy the “citizen parents” attribute of natural born citizenship.

Clever law professors such as Larry Tribe, for whom Obama was a research assistant, and whom Elena Kagan pardoned after Tribe was exposed as a plagiarist, will try to confuse the issue, but our framers said it simply and clearly, citing Vattel. A natural born citizen is born on our soil of citizen parents. Obama is ineligible, and if we have to have another revolution to return to the values which make our republic great, we will prevail.

Read the original sources. They are understandable. When Wong Kim Ark is raised, that is a common Obot smokescreen. Horace Gray was appointed by the only other usurper to sit in the White House, Chester Arthur, and his decision only applied to citizens, not natural born citizens. It is a confusingly-written document, but eventually cites Minor v. Happersett in which Vattel is cited. Since Wong Kim was never presumed to be a natural born citizen – he was born in San Francisco but of non-citizen parents – natural born citizenship was not at issue, and not determined. Some think Gray was creating smoke to protect his appointee.

Someone found an article written in a New York newspaper in 1789 describing a visit to George Washington’s New York office. Washington hadn’t yet entered the office when the reporters were admitted. Being reporters they noted that Washington, on his his first day as president had one book open on his desk, Vattel’s Law of Nations. Law of Nations is a readable compendium of what was described as natural law drawing from and citing philosophers from Aristotle to Vattel’s contemporaries. Read it online or from Amazon or the library. Several of our framers, including Alexander Hamilton, describe it as our common law.

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Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on May 19, 2010, 07:49:34 pm
Protean, I think everything the supposed double CIA/KGB agent said could well have been true.

The CIA has sealed the doc.'s because he (Soetoro/Obama) was an agent or operative/asset.

He may have been born in U.S.-- before Hawaii statehood, which would also make him not a "natural born citizen" as his mother was eighteen at his birth.  This would explain why his Kenyan citizenship was pulled or withdrawn in 1982, two years early before the anniversary of Hawaii's statehood.  The KGB/CIA officer may be giving a good tip re. the whole "born outside of the country" thing as a "red-herring" (pardon the pun). That could be why the supposed double agent is saying to look into his Coulumbia (CIA) years rather than the birth certificate, which may be a goose-chase by design.

Bottom line:  I think Manning is on the right track.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 19, 2010, 09:44:51 pm
Protean, I think everything the supposed double CIA/KGB agent said could well have been true.

The CIA has sealed the doc.'s because he (Soetoro/Obama) was an agent or operative/asset.

He may have been born in U.S.-- before Hawaii statehood, which would also make him not a "natural born citizen" as his mother was eighteen at his birth.  This would explain why his Kenyan citizenship was pulled or withdrawn in 1982, two years early before the anniversary of Hawaii's statehood.  The KGB/CIA officer may be giving a good tip re. the whole "born outside of the country" thing as a "red-herring" (pardon the pun). That could be why the supposed double agent is saying to look into his Coulumbia (CIA) years rather than the birth certificate, which may be a goose-chase by design.

Bottom line:  I think Manning is on the right track.

It is the Patrice Lamumba school in Moscow that they mean for the red herring.

From above post----

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SHARON: Did they actually assign him all of these social security numbers, or do you think he did that on his own?

MIKI: Again, if the CIA was behind it, they would be involved in every single aspect of it, because the money that he was getting went to help the Mujahadeen fight the Russian invasion.  Here’s another really interesting thing:  the story is out there that he attended Patrice Lamumba University.  About three weeks ago, I finally found the website for Patrice Lamumba, and it said, “Distinguished Alumni,” and on the list was “Barry Soetoro.”

SHARON: Really?

MIKI: Yes.  And it took you to the Wikipedia page all about “President” Barack Obama and his history.

SHARON: Could that have been set up as a hoax?

MIKI: That was set up as a red herring to throw everyone off the trail of the Pakistan connection.  Anyway, I saw it, and they mentioned that, and someone might have testified about it earlier in the trial.  However, it was brought up again today, and I remember when I first heard about that, it was right after Rev. Manning put out the word about the trial, and right after that, he did a YouTube video where he said, “They’re lying.  They’re going to say that he was actually in Russia attending Patrice Lamumba University” to throw us off.  He also said, “You watch; they’re not going to deny it; they’re going to let you think that that’s where he was, but don’t fall for it.  He was really in Pakistan.
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In a nutshell: Barry Soetoro was running money to the CIA rebels in Pakistan during his Columbia years. His Mother was also involved in clandestine finances for the intelligence community, probable helped get her son get recruited.

The birth certificate quest is only one of the documents that needs to be produced. Odds are, Barry was getting financial aid for college as a foreign student because he could use a foreign passport (Kenyan or Indonesian.) But we need to see those school records, of course, like the passport ones, they may already have been altered by The Company.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 20, 2010, 06:28:52 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/calling-all-journalists-obamas-multiple.html

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Obama's Social Security Number(s) - Jerome Corsi on the Jeff Kuhner Show - 5/18/10 -

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRt64dO0opE

Wednesday, May 19, 2010
Calling all Journalists, Obama's multiple social security numbers, Obama's mama's mama had access to dead people's social security numbers.

As reported here, here, & now here, Barack Obama is reported to have multiple social security numbers tied to his name. Last year, two investigators searched numerous data bases and found that the social security number Obama is currently using is a Connecticut issued number and it was issued between 1977-79.

Further, the social security number assigned to Barack Obama may have been previously assigned to someone born in 1890.

It's important to note that Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to Social Security numbers of dead people.

With this issue alone, you'd think this would be enough to warrant some type of investigation from the so-called free press.

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Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 20, 2010, 06:31:38 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/time-for-class-us-constitution-article.html

Time for class; A U.S. Constitution Article II “natural born Citizen” Is Not the Same As an English Common Law “natural born subject”.
Thursday, May 20, 2010

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I have already written an essay explaining that the Founders and Framers relied upon natural law, the law of nations, and Emer de Vattel, Sec. 212, for their Article II definition of a “natural born Citizen” and not upon the English common law. That essay is entitled, 'The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law' as U.S. Federal Common Law Not English Common Law Define What an Article II Natural Born Citizen Is. This essay will address the related specific question of whether the Framers gave to the “natural born Citizen” clause the same meaning that the English common law gave to a “natural born subject.”

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States provides in pertinent part: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President . . .” The Constitution does not define the clause “natural born Citizen.” We do however have a definition of a “natural born subject.” William Blackstone (1723-1780), frequently cited for English Common Law, defined a “natural born subject” as follows:

“The first and most obvious division of the people is into aliens and natural-born subjects. Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England, that is, within the ligeance, or as it is generally called, the allegiance of the king; and aliens, such as are born out of it. Allegiance is the tie, or ligamen, which binds the subject to the king, in return for that protection which the king affords the subject. The thing itself, or substantial part of it, is founded in reason and the nature of government; the name and the form are derived to us from our Gothic ancestors.
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The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such. In which the constitution of France differs from ours; for there, by their jus albinatus, if a child be born of foreign parents, it is an alien.” William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:354, 357--58, 361—62, http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_4_citizenships1.html.

As we can see, for children born within the King’s dominions and allegiance, they were considered “natural born subjects” without any consideration for the citizenship of their parents. On the question of what the Framers meant when they inserted the “natural born Citizen” clause in Article II, putative President Obama supporters argue that the Framers simply used the “natural born Citizen” clause in place of the English common law “natural born subject” clause. Hence, they argue that the clauses mean the same exact thing. In practical terms, they therefore argue that in the mind of the Framers mere birth on United States soil without any reference to the citizenship of the child’s parents (with exceptions for children of diplomats and of invading soldiers) made one a “natural born Citizen.” In support of their argument, they cite language in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898). The quote is:

“‘And if, at common law, all human beings born within the ligeance of the king, and under the king's obedience, were natural-born subjects, and not aliens, I do not perceive why this doctrine does not apply to these United States in all cases in which there is no express constitutional or statute declaration to the contrary.' ‘Subject' and 'citizen' are, in a degree, convertible terms as applied to natives; and though the term 'citizen' seems to be appropriate to republican freemen, yet we are, equally with the inhabitants of all other countries, 'subjects,' for we are equally bound by allegiance and subjection to the government and law of the land.' Id. 258, note.” United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 664-65 (1898). (quoting Chancellor Kent’s Commentaries). I submit that both Wong Kim Ark and Obama’s supporters are wrong in concluding that a “natural born Citizen” is the same thing as an English common law “natural born subject.”

The Framers did not use the definition of an English common law “natural born subject” to define a “natural born Citizen.” The text of the Constitution itself reveals that there is a difference between a “citizen” and a “subject.” The historical context in which the Framers wrote the Constitution would not have motivated them to rely on the English common law to define who would be eligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military of the new nation. The way the English common law defined a “natural born subject” and the Constitution itself reveal that for the Framers these two clauses did not have the same meaning. Additionally, there is direct evidence from the Founding period that shows that the Founders and Framers did not give the same meaning to the two clauses.

Let us start with the text of the Constitution to see if it distinguishes between a “citizen” and a “subject” and if it does let us consider the meaning of the terms during the Founding era and what any contemporaneous court decisions said regarding the terms. "The language of the Constitution recognizes a distinction between "citizens" and "subjects." For example, Article III, section 2 differentiates "citizens" of the several states from "citizens" or "subjects" of foreign states. In the framing era, these terms reflected two distinct theories of the relationship between individual members of a political community and the state. In feudal or monarchical constitutional theory, individuals were the subjects of a monarch or sovereign, but the republican constitutional theory of the revolutionary and post-revolutionary period conceived of the individual as a citizen and assigned sovereignty to the people. The distinction between citizens and subjects is reflected in Chief Justice John Jay’s opinion in Chisholm v. Georgia, [2 U.S. (2 Dall.) 419 (1793) the first great constitutional case decided after the ratification of the Constitution of 1789: [T]he sovereignty of the nation is in the people of the nation, and the residuary sovereignty of each State in the people of each State . . . .[A]t the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects (unless the African slaves among us may be so called) and have none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty. . . . Sovereignty is the right to govern; a nation or State-sovereign is the person or persons in whom that resides. In Europe the sovereignty is generally ascribed to the Prince; here it rests with the people; there, the sovereign actually administers the Government; here, never in a single instance; our Governors are the agents of the people, and at most stand in the same relation to their sovereign, in which regents in Europe stand to their sovereigns. [Id. 471-72 (Jay, C.J.)].

Jay’s articulation of the opposition between subjects and citizen confirmed by Justice James Wilson’s opinion in Chisholm. Wilson noted that with the exception of Article III, the Constitution refers to “citizens” and “persons,” and not subjects: “[t]he term, subject, occurs, indeed, once in the instrument; but to mark the contrast strongly, the epithet ‘foreign’ is prefixed.'” Lawrence B. Solum, Originalism and the Natural Born Citizen Clause, Michigan L.Rev. 9-10 (working draft created on April 18, 2010) (footnotes omitted). "Justice Wilson explained that “in one sense, the term sovereign has for its correlative, subject, In [sic] this sense, the term can receive no application; for it has no object in the Constitution of the United States. Under that Constitution there are citizens, but no subjects. ‘Citizen of the United States.’ ‘Citizens of another State.’ ‘Citizens of different States.’ ‘A State or citizen thereof.’” (footnotes omitted). Id. at 456 (Wilson, J.). Additionally, Article III, Sec. 2 refers to “foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.”

Solum continues in his essay: Both Jay and Wilson’s opinions suggest that usage in the founding era reflected a significant conceptual distinction between the words “subject” and “citizen”—a distinction that was strongly associated with the ideas about the nature of sovereignty. The term “citizen” reflects the notion that individual citizens are sovereign in a republic, whereas the term “subject” reflects feudal and monarchical conceptual of the monarch as sovereign and the individual as the subject, owing a duty of allegiance and duty to the monarch. This conceptual distinction may be relevant to the original understanding of the phrase “natural born citizen” which was used instead of “natural born subject,” the phrase that served as a term of art in English legal usage. The notion of a natural born subject may reflect a feudal understanding of political obligation: those born in the kingdom owed a natural duty of allegiance to their king and were his natural subjects. Given a republic theory of popular sovereignty, citizens are sovereign and the notion of a “natural born subject” would be anathema. This leaves a gap in the theory of citizenship—a gap that the Constitution fills with the concept of a natural born citizen.” Id. at 10-11.

In his earlier version of this essay, Solum stated: “Anyone born on American soil whose parents are citizens of the United States is a "natural born citizen." In this updated version, Solum explains that some readers misread what he wrote. Now he concludes that “based on my reading of the historical sources, there is no credible case that a person born on American soil with one American parent was clearly not a “natural born citizen.” I agree with Solum’s previous statement but disagree with his current one. See my essay entitled, The Natural Born Citizen Clause of Our U.S. Constitution Requires that Both of the Child’s Parents Be U.S. Citizens At the Time of Birth for my reasons. Additionally, Solum does not cite what those “historical sources” are. What is also strange is that while the debate over Obama’s “natural born Citizen” status is currently raging, Solum, while now taking a position which benefits Obama does not even acknowledge that the issue exists. His essay is all about analyzing the eligibility of John McCain who was born in Panama to two United States citizen parents who were in military service which circumstances present a more defensible case per Vattel Sec. 217 than that of Obama whose place of birth has not been confirmed and who was born in 1961 to only one United States citizen parent (18 years old at the time of his birth).

In order to understand what the Framers meant by terms they inserted in the Constitution, we have to consider the historical context in which they wrote. They had recently won a revolution with Great Britain and now had the task of constituting a new nation, including identifying who the original citizens were and who the future citizens were going to be. The definition of “natural born subject” as found in the English common law simply did not work for the Framers. Great Britain was a monarchy and the new nation was a Constitutional Republic with a representative government. Great Britain did not have a President to be democratically elected by the people but the new nation did. Great Britain was not concerned with foreign influence making its way into the hereditary monarchy but the Framers were concerned about the Office of President being attacked from within and without with foreign influence infecting not only the voters but also the political leaders themselves. The Framers understood that citizenship and allegiance went together. Vattel’s born-in-country-to-two-U.S.-citizen-parents formula was the best way for them to assure that only a person with undivided allegiance and loyalty to the United States would be eligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military. This test was not tied to the physical territory alone, which the Framers understood and which Lord Coke explained did not assure anyone’s natural allegiance when he said “liegance, and faith and truth, which are her members and parts, are qualities of the mind and soul of man, and cannot be circumscribed within the predicament of ubi.” (p. 76). Calvin’s Case (1608) (7 Coke, 1, 6 James I.) Coke believed that liegance was a function of natural law which he maintained was part of the common law of England. Daniel J. Hulsebosch, "The Ancient Constitution and the Expanding Empire: Sir Edward Coke's British Jurisprudence," Law and History Review Fall 2003 (18 May 2010). The Founders learned from Vattel that under the law of nature, the condition of a child follows the condition of his parents and not the place of his birth. Emer de Vattel, The Law of Nations; or, Principles of the Law of Nature, Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns, Sections 212-215 (1758 French) (1759 first English translation). Hence, their test combined both the soil with the allegiance of the child’s parents into the child at the time of birth. For the Founders, this was the best way to assure sole and absolute allegiance in the new-born child. Charles Pinckney, who was the first delegate at the Constitutional Convention to raise the issue of presidential qualifications, in a statement made in the U.S. Senate in 1800, said that the "natural born citizen clause" was designed "to insure ... attachment to the country." The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787 (Farrand's Records), CCLXXXVIII, Charles Pinckney in the United States Senate, March 28, 1800, p. 387. http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?hlaw:10:./temp/%7Eammem_jwJ2 . These citizenship concepts provided the basis for their definitions of the original citizens and the citizens of future generations.

The English common law did not distinguish between a “natural born subject” and a naturalized subject. "The English common law provided that an alien naturalized is “to all intents and purposes a natural born subject.” Co. Litt. 129 (quoted and cited in United States v. Rhodes, 27 F.Cass. 785, 790 (1866).). Under English common law, once a person became naturalized, he or she was deemed to be a “natural born subject.” Hence, under English common law a naturalized citizen was considered a “natural born subject.” Hence, giving the “natural born Citizen” clause the same meaning as a “natural born subject” would have allowed a naturalized citizen to be eligible to be President of the new Republic. But Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 mandates that only a “natural born Citizen” is eligible to be President. The clause is written as “No person except . . . shall be eligible . . .” which means that one must be a “natural born Citizen” in order to be eligible to be President, with no exceptions. The way we have interpreted the “natural born Citizen” clause since the beginning of the Republic, a naturalized citizen is not eligible to be President. But assuming the “natural born Citizen” clause had the same meaning as a “natural born subject,” with the Constitution as written it would not have conveyed in any manner that a naturalized citizen was not eligible to be President. No where do we find in the Constitution any direct statement that a naturalized citizen is not eligible to be President. To reach this conclusion, we have always relied upon the “natural born Citizen” clause itself which we have compared with the fact that the Framers prescribed in Article I that naturalized citizens were eligible to be Senators (“nine Years a Citizen of the United States”) and Representatives (seven Years a Citizen of the United States”) . The manner in which the Framers provided that Senators and Representatives needed to be “Citizen of the United States” for only a certain amount of years shows that the naturalized citizen class was included within “Citizens of the United States” and not within “natural born Citizens.” This shows that naturalized citizens were not part of “natural born Citizens.”

Hence, equating the meaning of a “natural born Citizen” to a “natural born subject” would have allowed naturalized persons to be President, a result that we have rejected from the beginning of the Constitutional Republic. Such a meaning would have created an exception to the “natural born Citizen” clause which would have eviscerated the clause itself. Additionally, since Congress has the power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 to make uniform the naturalization laws, such a meaning would have given Congress the power to decide who could be President by simply changing the naturalization requirements. The Framers, fearing that Congress would allow foreign influence to creep into the office of President if it were given the power to select the President, did not give Congress such power.

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A letter that John Jay wrote to then-General Washington (transcription can be viewed here) also provides evidence that the Framers did not equate a “natural born Citizen” with a “natural born subject.” We have seen that if a “natural born Citizen” meant the same thing as a “natural born subject,” a naturalized citizen would have been eligible to be President of the new Republic. Giving the two clauses the same meaning would have produced a clear contradiction and a condition which the Framers rejected. We know that the Founders considered a naturalized citizen to be only a “citizen of the United States” (able to be President under Article II’s grandfather clause and Senator or Representative under Article I) and not a “natural born Citizen,” which status was required of a would-be President for births after 1787. How the English common law converted naturalized persons into "natural born subject" retroactively to the time of birth can explain why John Jay underlined the word "born" when recommending to General Washington in his famous letter of July 25, 1787 that it was both “wise and seasonable” for the purpose of providing a “strong check” against foreign influence invading the new national government that the Constitution “declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born citizen” (underlining the word “born”). Jay’s underlining of the word “born” is evidence that he rejected a naturalized citizen as being eligible for that office. This is further evidence that the Founders rejected the meaning of a “natural born subject” which was not necessarily tied to the time of actual birth. Not being a “natural born Citizen,” the Founders did not permit naturalized citizens to be President. The Framers, after 1787 (when the grandfather clause expired and Article II required a child to be a “natural born Citizen” and not only a “Citizen of the United States”) did not allow naturalized citizens to be President, for they would have been included in the class of “Citizens of the United States” and not in the class of “natural born Citizens.” This rejection of a naturalized citizen as equivalent to a "natural born Citizen" was consistent with the law of nations. Emer de Vattel, The Law of Nations; or, Principles of the Law of Nature, Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns, Sections 212-214  (1758 French) (1759 first English translation). The Fourteenth Amendment citizenship clause as originally intended (not the way that it has come to be interpreted by giving “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” a territorial meaning rather than an allegiance and political one) also made the same recognition.

Further evidence that the Founders and Framers did not consider the two clauses as meaning the same thing can be found in the writings of David Ramsay, who published A Dissertation on the Manners of Acquiring the Character and Privileges of a Citizen (1789). David Ramsay (April 2, 1749 to May 8, 1815) was an American physician and historian from South Carolina and a delegate from that state to the Continental Congress in 1782-1783 and 1785-1786. He was one of the American Revolution’s first major historians. Ramsay “was a major intellectual figure in the early republic, known and respected in America and abroad for his medical and historical writings, especially for The History of the American Revolution (1789)…” Arthur H. Shaffer, Between Two Worlds: David Ramsay and the Politics of Slavery, J.S.Hist., Vol. L, No. 2 (May 1984). In his 1789 essay, while not using the phrase “natural born Citizen,” Ramsay described the original citizens that existed during the Founding and what it meant to acquire citizenship by birthright after the Founding. The Constitution itself shows that the Framers called the original citizens “Citizens of the United States” and those that followed them “natural born Citizens.” He said concerning the children born after the declaration of independence, “[c]itizenship is the inheritance of the children of those who have taken part in the late revolution; but this is confined exclusively to the children of those who were themselves citizens….” Id. at 6. He added that “citizenship by inheritance belongs to none but the children of those Americans, who, having survived the declaration of independence, acquired that adventitious character in their own right, and transmitted it to their offspring….” Id. at 7. He continued that citizenship “as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776….” Id. at 6. Here, Ramsay referred to “natural right,” which ties into the Framers’ use of the clause “natural born Citizen.” By focusing on citizenship that occurs by “natural right,” Ramsay distinguished citizenship that occurs naturally versus citizenship that occurs by operation of law. But Ramsay also explained that there is an “immense” difference between a British “subject” and a United States “citizen,” with the former being “under the power of another” and the latter being “a unit of mass of free people, who, collectively, posses sovereignty.” He informed that “Republics, both ancient and modern, have been jealous of the rights of citizenship.” He then explained that the “original citizens” of the United States were those who were parties to the Declaration of Independence and thereby adhered to the revolutionary cause. It is evident from his writing that in defining a “citizen of the United States” and a “natural born Citizen,” Ramsay did not look to English common law but rather to natural law, the law of nations, and Vattel, Sec. 212. Ramsay’s dissertation presents valuable evidence of how the Founding generation defined the original citizens and the future generation of citizens which the Framers called “natural born Citizens.” It is valuable because it is evidence of the public meaning of these terms at the time they were framed and ratified, if not among the general population then at least among those learned in the law. For further information on David Ramsay and the “natural born Citizen” clause, see my essay entitled, Founder and Historian David Ramsay Defines a Natural Born Citizen in 1789.

A “natural born subject” under English common law if born within the domain and allegiance of the King did not need any connection to citizen parents. But Jefferson in 1799 wrote the citizenship laws of Virginia which provided as follows:

"A Bill Declaring Who Shall Be Deemed Citizens of This Commonwealth: May 1779

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Be it enacted by the General Assembly, that all white persons born within the territory of this commonwealth and all who have resided therein two years next before the passing of this act, and all who shall hereafter migrate into the same; and shall before any court of record give satisfactory proof by their own oath or affirmation, that they intend to reside therein, and moreover shall give assurance of fidelity to the commonwealth; and all infants wheresoever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth, or who migrate hither, their father, if living, or otherwise their mother becoming a citizen, or who migrate hither without father or mother, shall be deemed citizens of this commonwealth, until they relinquish that character in manner as herein after expressed: And all others not being citizens of any the United States of America, shall be deemed aliens…. And in order to preserve to the citizens of this commonwealth, that natural right, which all men have of relinquishing the country, in which birth, or other accident may have thrown them, and, seeking subsistance and happiness wheresoever they may be able, or may hope to find them: And to declare unequivocably what circumstances shall be deemed evidence of an intention in any citizen to exercise that right, it is enacted and declared, that whensoever any citizen of this commonwealth, shall by word of mouth …openly declare to the same court, that he relinquishes the character of a citizen,…such person shall be considered as having exercised his natural right of expatriating himself, and shall be deemed no citizen of this commonwealth from the time of his departure. The free white inhabitants of every of the states, parties to the American confederation, paupers, vagabonds and fugitives from justice excepted, shall be intitled to all rights, privileges, and immunities of free citizens in this commonwealth, and shall have free egress, and regress, to and from the same, and shall enjoy therein, all the privileges of trade, and commerce, subject to the same duties, impositions and restrictions as the citizens of this commonwealth…. " http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a4_2_1s4.html. His citizenship law of 1783 was similar to his 1779.

As we can see from his law, Jefferson provided different criteria for two different classes of citizens. For the first class, who were adults and already in existence, he provided one requirement (jus soli would be sufficient). He grandfathered these adults to be the first citizens. But for those who were infants and to be born in the future, he provided a different requirement. For this latter group, only jus sanguinis tied to both parents would be sufficient to make them citizens. It is important to understand the historical context in which Jefferson wrote his citizenship law because the Framers wrote within the same historical context when they drafted the grandfather clause in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. This historical context was one of a new state rising from revolution. It is the historical context of the “infant state” (Jefferson in the 1783 citizenship laws) which is the genesis for the Framers distinction in Article II and other sections of the Constitution between a “Citizen of the United States” and a “natural born Citizen,” a distinction that our United States Supreme Court carried forward throughout American history. It is only because Jefferson and the other Founders were creating citizenship for a new state having just emerged from revolution that they had the need to first identify who were the first citizens and who were going to be the future citizens. The Framers also grandfathered the first citizens as did Jefferson. They called these persons “citizens of the United States.” These would have been the adults already in being at the time that the Constitution was adopted in 1787. These were adults who were either born or naturalized in the colonies or states or simply inhabiting there and adhered to the Revolution. But the Framers provided that for those persons who were infants after 1787, they would have to be “natural born Citizens” in order to be eligible to be President. The historical evidence, United States Supreme Court cases, and Congressional Acts show that this second generation citizens, like Jefferson’s second generation citizens, would come into being as “natural born Citizens” but only if they descended from persons already citizens of the United States.

English statutes also considered children born abroad to parents who were “natural born subject” to be themselves “natural born subjects.” Again, Blackstone explained that by some modern English statutes: “[A]ll children, born out of the king's ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception; unless their said fathers were attainted, or banished beyond sea, for high treason; or were then in the service of a prince at enmity with Great Britain.” As can be seen, these statutes granted “natural born subject” status to such children regardless of, with the exceptions noted, in which type of service the parents were engaged. Jefferson wrote for citizenship in Virginia and so in his 1779 law he did not require that the child be born in the State. The Framers wrote for national citizenship and they did require birth in the United States to be considered an Article II “natural born Citizen.” Note that the Naturalization Act of 1790 (Act of March 26, 1790, ch. 3, Sec. 1, 1 Stat. 103, 103-04 (1790)), itself a naturalization act passed by the First Congress under its naturalization powers of Article I, Section 8, Clause 4, only provided that “children of citizens of the United States” born “out of the limits of the United States” were “considered as natural-born citizens . . . .” By passing this law and using this language, the First Congress, which included twenty members who had been delegates to the Constitutional Convention eight of whom were members of the Committee of Eleven that drafted the “natural born Citizen” clause, told us that these children were not in fact “natural born Citizens” but rather only made such through Congress’s naturalization powers. The Constitution only gave Congress the power to make uniform the naturalization laws which did not include the power to define a “natural born Citizen.” These children were only given the rights of “natural born Citizens” and were not actually “natural born Citizens.” The Third Congress confirmed that these children born abroad to United States citizen parents did not have actual Article II “natural born Citizen” status (to be distinguished from such status being granted by a naturalization act of Congress) when in 1795 it changed their status from being “natural born citizens” to “citizens of the United States.” If these children were Article II “natural born Citizens,” Congress would not have had the power to take away through any statute their constitutional “natural born” status. Unlike the Fourteenth Amendment which contains the jurisdiction and the necessary and proper clauses, Article II does not provide Congress with any way to define a “natural born Citizen.” It should be noted that a valid constitutional argument can be made that a child born abroad to United States citizen parents who are serving the armies of the state or even in some other government service are Article II “natural born Citizens,” for they “are reputed born in the country.” Vattel, Sec. 217. Children born abroad under such circumstances will most likely not attach their allegiance to the foreign country in which they may be born and rather through their relationship with their United States citizen mother and father become loyal only to the United States.

A “natural born subject” under English common law could never renounce his or her allegiance. Mannie Brown explained the “old common-law doctrine Nemo potest exuere patriam by quoting Lord Coke in Calvin’s Case: “Ligeance is a true and faithful obedience of the subject due to his Sovereign. This ligeance and obedience is an incident inseparable to every subject; for as soon as he is born he oweth by birth-right ligeance and obedience to his Sovereign.” Mannie Brown, Expatriation of Infants, University of Toronto Press 97 (1939). But as we have seen above, in his 1799 citizenship law Jefferson wrote that a person could exercise his “natural right of expatriating himself” “whensoever” he saw fit to do so. Jefferson included in his law a right in a person to relinquish his citizenship in a manner prescribed by law. This right was known as the right to expatriate which was not only alien to English common law but forbidden by it. Jefferson’s idea that a person could renounce allegiance to the country of his or her birth was so accepted by early Congresses and society that Congress codified this right by passing the Naturalization Act of 1795 (1 Stat. 414, c. 20), which provided persons naturalizing in the United States to absolutely renounce and abjure all allegiance to any foreign prince or state and to support the Constitution. Over the years, there continued a debate in the courts whether an American citizen could expatriate himself or herself. The matter was finally settled in 1868, when Congress passed the Expatriation Act of 1868 and Representative Woodward of Pennsylvania proclaimed that by doing so Congress had driven feudalism from our shores.

Jefferson’s views on a person having a right to expatriate reveal that he looked to natural law and the law of nations and Vattel rather than the English common law on questions of citizenship. In a letter dated June 12, 1817, to Dr. John Manners, Jefferson made his views on whether the English common law applied to such questions well known:

"To Doctor John Manners.

Monticello, June 12, 1817.

SIR

Your favor of May 20th has been received some time since, but the increasing inertness of age renders me slow in obeying the calls of the writing table, and less equal than I have been to its labors.

My opinion on the right of Expatriation has been, so long ago as the year 1776, consigned to record in the act of the Virginia code, drawn by myself, recognizing the right expressly, and prescribing the mode of exercising it. The evidence of this natural right, like that of our right to life, liberty, the use of our faculties, the pursuit of happiness, is not left to the feeble and sophistical investigations of reason, but is impressed on the sense of every man. We do not claim these under the charters of kings or legislators, but under the King of kings. If he has made it a law in the nature of man to pursue his own happiness, he has left him free in the choice of place as well as mode; and we may safely call on the whole body of English jurists to produce the map on which Nature has traced, for each individual, the geographical line which she forbids him to cross in pursuit of happiness. It certainly does not exist in his mind. Where, then, is it? I believe, too, I might safely affirm, that there is not another nation, civilized or savage, which has ever denied this natural right. I doubt if there is another which refuses its exercise. I know it is allowed in some of the most respectable countries of continental Europe, nor have I ever heard of one in which it was not. How it is among our savage neighbors, who have no law but that of Nature, we all know. . . . " http://yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/jefferson/1817.html. We can see how Jefferson was clear in stating the right to expatriate, like the right to life, liberty, and to pursue happiness, was a natural right that came from God and not from the English common law. He also explained that the English common law was adopted by the states and was applied by them on local issues. But when it came to the national government, he stated that no such law was adopted. Hence, the right to expatriate could have come only from natural law rather than the English common law. As Jefferson applied natural law to the question of expatriation, he would have also applied it to defining a “natural born Citizen.” These historical writing show that Jefferson surely would not have considered a “natural born Citizen” to have the same meaning as an English common law “natural born subject.”

All this leads us to the inescapable conclusion that the Founders and Framers did not give the “natural born Citizen” clause the same meaning that the English common law gave to a “natural born subject.” For further information explaining that the Framers did not rely upon English common law but rather natural law, the law of nations, and Vattel to define a “natural born Citizen,” see my essay entitled, 'The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law' as U.S. Federal Common Law Not English Common Law Define What an Article II Natural Born Citizen Is.

Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
May 19, 2010
http://puzo1.blogspot.com
####

P.S. For more on natural born Citizenship to constitutional standards, see Apuzzo's essay: Obama - Maybe a Citizen of the United States but Not a "natural born Citizen"

The timeline ... connecting the dots ... hmmh ...

25 Mar 2010: (A problem for Obama's eligibility issue cover up surfaces in Kenya)
James Orengo in Kenya makes statement in Parliament that Obama "born here in Kenya", "not a native American".
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 21, 2010, 05:35:08 pm
Say It Isn’t So, Lucas The KBC2 is in danger from the government, Lucas Smith posts to his YouTube channel:

Good morning everyone. I was detained at the Miami Internstional Airport the other week upon entering the United States. I was released yesterday. I have been threatened by the FBI and other employees of the federal government, I don’t feel safe anymore. I have now seen just how? much power the federal governent has as they can alter information in any government database in the country. A person can disappear forever and there would never be any trace of what happened to them.

[T]here is no one to help either. Just about all of the “birther” attorneys are only seeking money and fame. I can’t say that for certain? about all of them but, just about all of them. There’s not much more I can do. The birth certificate is in a “strorage” along with my suitcase in Florida. I’m hundreds of miles away from there and the “storage” (thanks to Homeland Security) is raking up daily “rental” fees.

As everyone knows I have a criminal record which causes most serious attorneys (i.e., NOT a birther attorney, even though a “serious” attorney is still a liar and probably maybe even more egregiously worse than and a “birther” attorney anyways) to distance themseves from me.

I’m just about out of ideas on how to fight the federal government especially when they can crush your whole life in one day.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10438


Taitz files new motion in the Taitz v Obama Quo Warranto, submits transcript from Kenya and Obama's Multiple Social Security Numbers.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/taitz-files-new-motion-in-taitz-v-obama.html







Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 21, 2010, 07:33:18 pm
http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m5d19-Guilty-verdict-in-Obama-trial-more-questions-than-answers?cid=examiner-email

Guilty verdict in Obama trial: more questions than answers


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May 19, 2010
Conservative Examiner
By Anthony G. Martin

Dr. James Manning's now-famous trial of Barack Obama in Harlem, New York has ended.  The jury found Obama and Columbia University guilty on all charges.

The trial, however, unveils many more questions than it provides answers.

(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais).

But first, a few observations are in order about the nature of this event.

Obviously the event was a 'public' rather than a 'court' trial.  No court sanctioned it.  The legality of public trials apart from court sanction has not been established.  While the Constitution does, indeed, maintain that the ultimate power of government rests with 'we, the people,' and while a case can be made that under the 10th amendment the people, acting under the auspices of local and state authorities, can engage in certain acts of self-governance apart from the sanction and control of the federal government, it has not been established that any local entity in Harlem granted state or local legal status to the trial.

In that sense the trial and the verdict have no binding legal authority.

However, should a legal authority, a court, a law enforcement agency, an Attorney-General either at the state or national level, decide that the evidence presented at the Manning trial is overwhelming enough to launch a full investigation, then ultimately the results of the trial could carry the full weight of legal authority.

Dr. Manning has stated that he intends to present the evidence and the verdict to U.S. Attorney-General Eric Holder.  At that point the ball will be in the 'court' of the Department of Justice.  If no action is taken on the verdict, then there is not much further that can be done.

But if action is taken and an official investigation ensues, then perhaps the goal of this event will have been met.  The problem is that under the present circumstances it is next to impossible for that to happen.  Holder is Obama's choice and Congress is held in the grip of Obama's Party.  End of story.

Serious, unanswered questions remain, however--questions that the trial did an excellent job of bringing to the surface.

These questions are as follows:

Why didn't Barack Obama have a Social Security Number issued in his name when he was first employed as a 14-year-old in Hawaii?  Why was there such a long delay after his first job before an application was made for a Social Security Number?  And why was he given a Connecticut Social Security Number previously used by a man born in the late 1800s, given that Obama never lived in Connecticut to begin with?

The first instance of Obama's use of the Connecticut number was when he started to work as a Community Organizer in Chicago--a very long way from Connecticut.

Further, why was Obama given a degree from Columbia University when no one in Harlem ever remembers him being there, and although witnesses have testified that he was never a student on campus?  And the address given by Obama as the one that he used while a student in Harlem does not exist.

But perhaps the most telling question of all is, why did Obama use a Kenyan passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981?  Wouldn't a U.S. citizen normally be given an American passport?  It seems to be  standard procedure--and the law--that passports are given only to citizens of the country in which they reside.

And what has the CIA got to do with all of this mess?

The fact is we may never know for sure unless somebody in authority in the government decides to investigate and discover the answers.

But one thing is for sure--Obama is an enigma, a shadow, a persona created out of the murky circumstances of his past, which is being carefully hidden.  Why would it even need to be hidden?

These questions are disturbing to anyone who takes our Constitution and our way of life seriously.  Our form of government, as delineated in the Constitution, is dependent upon the honesty and transparency of those who hold public office.  And if a fraud is elected, a charlatan, a person who presents himself as something he is not, then the entire American system of government is in grave danger.

Better to err on the side of utmost caution than to glibly dismiss all of these questions as 'mere coincidences.'  Coincidences do happen, no doubt, but this many and this often--all revolving around one man?

The odds are that the country is in grave danger.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 22, 2010, 10:48:49 am
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=157093

Harlem 'trial' finds Obama 'guilty'
Pastor says incriminating information to be given to 'authorities'

Posted: May 22, 2010
12:45 am Eastern

By Stewart Stogel
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

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James Manning

NEW YORK – The controversial Harlem pastor who led a days-long "trial" of President Obama says the resulting "guilty" verdict and corroborating evidence will now be turned over to appropriate authorities, congressional and otherwise.

The event was held at Atlah World Missionary Church over the past few days, and its pastor, James Manning, claimed it to be the first "legal verdict" against Obama since he took office.

Focusing on allegations regarding Obama's status as a "natural born citizen" of the United States as well as the allegedly illegal "award" of a diploma from Columbia University, Manning insists new legal ground was broken.

The activist pastor says that under the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, citizens can legally hold a trial and arrive at a verdict, with the results turned over to appropriate government bodies for enforcement.

Manning claims the fact that the Secret Service, charged with protecting the president and investigating threats, allowed the "trial" to take place constitutes evidence it was legitimate.

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"If the trial did not have legal standing, then why did the federal or city authorities not intervene to halt [the proceeding]?" he said. "We did not hide the trial, in fact we did our best to promote it. So if the authorities had any problems why did they not act?"

Not only was there no government interference during or after the trial, Manning boasts the NYPD had officers in the neighborhood to protect the church when the trial was under way.

Coincidentally, Obama was less than 4 miles away at a Democratic Party fundraiser in mid-town Manhattan the night before the 5-day trial began May 14.

Just four blocks from the church that hosted the Obama trial stands the Harlem office of former President Bill Clinton.

Ironically, the conservative Manning heaped praise on the 42nd president: "He was (and still is) a friend of the Harlem community. He and Hillary did a lot of good things here and for that we thank them."

Now that the Obama trial is over, Manning said, he will pass on the verdict and the evidence presented to the appropriate congressional authorities for their own "review."

"Just like a civilian who witnessed a crime, we will report our findings to Congress. ... Let's see what they do," he said.

Regarding Manning's allegation that Obama never actually attended Columbia, the New York times blogged mockingly:

"When we asked a Columbia spokesman whether the president did in fact attend the school, he replied, 'We’re not commenting on the Reverend Manning or the trial.' Denial or confirmation? You decide."

Manning, undeterred, says, "The ball is their (Congress') court. The verdict is in, the trial is over.

"Of course they (Congress) will try and ignore it and hope I will go away. .. but anyone who knows me knows I will not go away."
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 23, 2010, 01:27:06 am
The HDOH Has Destroyed Original Records Required to be Kept Permanently?


http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/hdoh-has-destroyed-original-permanent-records/



Index of Foreign Births Destroyed

http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/index-of-foreign-births-destroyed/


Orly at Tea Party Event. Asked to remain quiet

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/orly-at-tea-party-event-asked-to/


Rhodes v McDonald – Letter informing Orly of collection of sanctions

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/rhodes-v-mcdonald-letter-informing-orly-of-collection-of-sanctions/

 
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 24, 2010, 11:11:43 am
Also posted here:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=170732.msg1023084#msg1023084

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=156573

U.S. Selective Service in Obama cover-up?
Mysterious Social Security Number now wreaks havoc in online search


Posted: May 23, 2010
4:37 pm Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

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Is the U.S. Selective Service System now blocking access to President Barack Obama's online registration records?

Members of the public searching the federal database for the commander in chief's registration are suddenly finding new difficulty, possibly due to the startling revelation of Obama's alleged use of a Connecticut-based Social Security Number.

The Selective Service System, or SSS, collects names of Americans for use by the Department of Defense in the event of a national emergency. On its website, it says it provides the nation "with a structure and a system of guidelines which will provide the most prompt, efficient, and equitable draft possible, if the country should need it."

Regarding President Obama, "He is registered. There is no doubt in our minds that he has, and we're quite prepared to say so," SSS public-affairs specialist Dan Amon told WND.

The hottest book in America is the one that exposes the real Obama and all his men (and women)! Get your autographed copy only from WND!

But the agency's online search engine now appears to be precluding the public from seeing Obama's record after allowing unfettered access.

The database allows people to search for registrants as long as a correct name, Social Security Number and date of birth are entered.

On May 5, WND entered the criteria for President Obama, using his date of birth as Aug. 4, 1961, and his Social Security Number, which begins with the Connecticut-issued prefix of 042.

The Selective Service database instantly issued a "matched record" without a problem that day, indicating Obama's Selective Service Number is 61-1125539-1. It lists date of registration as Sept. 4, 1980.

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This May 5, 2010, screenshot of the Selective Service System's website shows President Obama's Selective Service record was able to be searched and located using his name, date of birth and Social Security Number (the last four digits of which have been redacted by WND).

However, when WND re-entered the same information on May 20, the database did not provide the matched record, but instead posted a message, stating, "Error. Sorry, your request cannot be processed at this time because you have exceeded the daily limit for the verification of these credentials."

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This May 20, 2010, screenshot of the Selective Service System's website shows the results of the exact same search for Obama's record, on WND's first attempt that date, The system displayed an error message, suggesting too many verification requests exceeding the daily limit.

WND asked Selective Service what was causing the sudden problem in retrieving records.

Amon said it's likely because many people across the nation are now searching for Obama's records.

"If you run into problems, others have, too," he said.

Amon says a hacking attempt several years ago prompted the agency to beef up security to prevent future electronic attacks. He initially said the agency created a limit of three verification requests per day for any given record.

"If someone in Omaha, Neb., does it on a whim, then someone in Ohio does it, then that's two times."

He said when more than three requests are submitted – no matter where they're entered from – people would see the error message noting the daily limit has been exceeded.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=156573

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 25, 2010, 03:14:48 am
Fitzpatrick – Request for new Grand Jury to be convened

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/fitzpatrick/


Bill Clinton rips 'birthers'

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/bill-impeached-clinton-attacks-birthers.html


U.S. Justice Department is in violation of court order and its own policy in Allen v. Soetoro

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/24/motion-to-compel-filed-against-state-dept-and-dhs/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 25, 2010, 10:04:10 am
From Menace's above post---
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/bill-impeached-clinton-attacks-birthers.html

If Slick Willie is defending Obama's BC--then you know it is ALL LIES!

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Bill Clinton rips 'birthers'

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Andy Barr - Former President Bill Clinton is taking the so-called “birthers” to task for ignoring evidence that President Barack Obama was born in the United States. [ What evidence!? A freakin image of a COLB posted on a BLOG? The real evidence is below. ]

Clinton made the comments during a commencement address at Yale University on Sunday as part of a critique of American media consumption habits.

“The only place where we’re bigoted now is we only want to be around people who agree with us,” Clinton said. “In our media habits, we go to the television shows, we go to the radio talk shows we go to the blog sites [ hopefully BirtherReport.com ] that agree with us. And it can have very bizarre consequences.”

The former president pointed to the “birthers” an example of one of those “bizarre consequences.”

“Hawaii, the state where President Obama was born, has done everything they can to debunk this myth that he wasn’t born in America,” Clinton said. “They’ve done everything but blow up his birth certificate, put it in neon lights and hang it on the dome in the Capitol.” [ Yes, they even made a law to ignore their own law that says they MUST release Obama's records. ]

“But 45 percent of registered Republicans still believe that he is serving unconstitutionally,” Clinton insisted, though he did not identify the poll.

“Why?” he asked. “Because they’ve been told that by the only place they go to get information.”

Responding to rumors during the presidential campaign about Obama’s place of birth, Hawaii state officials posted his birth certificate online. [ That is a LIE, it was Obama's campaign that posted numerous IMAGES of a COLB which is NOT a birth certificate, which are also known forgeries, and which Hawaii refuses to verify. ]

The move, however, did not stop lawsuits and other queries examining Obama’s birth, prompting Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle, a Republican, to recently sign into law legislation allowing state employees to ignore requests for proof of the president’s citizenship. Source. [ IT'S NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, NOT CITIZEN, STUPID!!! ]
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on May 25, 2010, 03:46:12 pm
Anyone who still thinks Soetero was born in Hawaii...

Alex Jones - Phil Berg interview !!!

Obama's Birth Certificate Issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6laVQp3j3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkhqyRY2j4&feature=related

Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

Michelle Obama speaking at the LGBT Delegate (The World as it Should Be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug

Grandmother says Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Damascus on May 25, 2010, 06:35:41 pm
I hate to say it but I am starting to think that the momentum of this is coincidentally running along side of Berry's usefulness. By the time public opinion builds to the point of action Berry will already be spent like a booster rocket and ejected. This is why they are making him sprint with all the NWO agenda now so they can then put Sarah Palin in to say all is well we won now everyone go home. Let us not fall for this, as important as the issue is, remember he is just a puppet. Our goal should be the men behind the curtain.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Shroom! on May 25, 2010, 06:38:30 pm
Any truth to the stories of him being a blood relative to the UK Royal family?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on May 25, 2010, 07:16:22 pm
He's Cheney's cousin 5th or 6th generation removed.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 25, 2010, 07:59:43 pm
I hate to say it but I am starting to think that the momentum of this is coincidentally running along side of Berry's usefulness. By the time public opinion builds to the point of action Berry will already be spent like a booster rocket and ejected. This is why they are making him sprint with all the NWO agenda now so they can then put Sarah Palin in to say all is well we won now everyone go home. Let us not fall for this, as important as the issue is, remember he is just a puppet. Our goal should be the men behind the curtain.

And just how are you going to do that?  What's your strategy to go after "the men behind the curtain?"

The men behind the curtain do not show themselves--their puppets do.
Expose their most important puppet for the usurper that he is and you'll get the men behind the curtain.
 
Once the majority/general public knows they have been had, you've got a real shot at:

1. getting votes behind a third party and kicking out most of the Dems and Repubs
2. repealing un-Constitutional laws an un-Constitutional President signed
3. sentencing government officials, bankers, and others involved with this high level treason and fraud
4. exposing the mainstream media for its involvement, causing it to lose all credibility and hold on the general public

and in doing so----you'll get the men behind the curtain

Obama is the Achilles Heel of the NWO. It is their weak spot.


 



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Damascus on May 25, 2010, 09:01:45 pm
I am not saying to stop! Just be aware that they are going to try to pin all the blame on him. We have to try look ahead and see the next move in the gigantic chess game. The NWO has been doing this for many years and they are very good at it. Just look what they are doing to the tea party, Now it is mostly neocon and they say it has always been so.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 25, 2010, 10:05:16 pm
I am not saying to stop! Just be aware that they are going to try to pin all the blame on him. We have to try look ahead and see the next move in the gigantic chess game. The NWO has been doing this for many years and they are very good at it. Just look what they are doing to the tea party, Now it is mostly neocon and they say it has always been so.

They may try, but all the blame will be placed on-- all those involved, not just Barry Soetoro, who is the invention of many.
Barry's origin, his creators, and facilitators will be exposed in the process.
Please re-read my post above.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 28, 2010, 02:37:04 am
Barney Frank calls on reporters to demand to see the birth certificate of Hawaii Rep. Charles Djou.
 
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/barney-frank-calls-on-reporters-to.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 01, 2010, 10:29:07 am
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=159317

Poll shocker! Majority wants Obama records
Maintain president should be chased from office if he doesn't come clean

Posted: May 31, 2010

By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

Editor's note: This is another in a series of monthly "WND/WENZEL POLLS" conducted exclusively for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies.
President Barack Obama pauses as he listens to a question during a news conference in the East Room of the White House in Washington

At a time when Barack Obama is getting heat for stonewalling information about an alleged administration bribery scandal, a new poll shows more Americans than ever suspect the president is hiding information about his own background and want him to come clean.

Questions about Obama's eligibility to be president, exacerbated by his refusal to answer questions, release ordinary background documentation and his extraordinary legal maneuvers to keep his background hidden, have been on the radar of a number of top-level investigative reporters and news organizations since before his election.

Essentially, while the Constitution requires a president to be a "natural born citizen," none of the questions about Obama's qualifications – or lack thereof – under that requirement have yet been answered.

It's working! Sign the petition that will force Obama to prove he's eligible for office

"Simply put, this question about Obama's legitimacy as president is undermining everything he does in the minds of millions of Americas," wrote Fritz Wenzel of Wenzel Strategies in an analysis of his results.

"Our latest polling shows a majority of Americans – 55 percent – want Obama to release all records relating to his childhood and his education, including college records, Harvard Law School papers, passport records, travel records, and other similar documentation," he said.

"Asked what should be done should it be found that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president, 59 percent said he should be removed from office, and 35 percent said all bills signed into law by Obama should be repealed," he said.

The poll said when asked about whether Obama's background documentation – the school records, birth records and others – should be released, the 55 percent who said yes included more than 82 percent of the GOP, 55 percent of independents and nearly 28 percent of Democrats.

Further, another 17.1 percent of Americans said Obama should release some of his documentation, making it nearly three in four Americans who want the president to unlock the steel door on some or all of his background information.

Despite his campaign promises of transparency while in office, there has been no shortage of disputes over secrecy in the Obama administration. He's already argued in court for more secrecy in the White House, claimed his work is "privileged" and apparently got rid of an inspector general who was applying heat to a friend.

The survey indicates Obama's orchestrated efforts to marginalize "birthers" who are raising questions about him and his background have failed totally. The fact that only 65 percent of the members of his own party will agree that he's been transparent is a "red flag," the analysis said.

"When Barack Obama was campaigning for the U.S. presidency, he promised one of the most open and transparent administrations in the history of the county. Sixteen months into his term, a majority of Americans believe he has failed. That a majority of adults nationwide – 56 percent – said he has not run an open administration is a stern rebuke because there is so much power invested in the office of the presidency," said Wenzel.

"Forget that any modern president would have trouble standing up to a comparison with George Washington and other early presidents when it comes to honesty and integrity, Obama has taken steps throughout his administration that appear secretive," he said.

"Once elected, he appointed dozens of so-called 'czars' to oversee various parts of the federal government, which are extra-constitutional in that there is no provision for congressional approval of such appointees. To further complicate things, we have seen a flood of legislation that would make landmark changes to American society, all pushed by the Obama administration before congressional lawmakers had a chance to even read the bills," Wenzel noted.

"Then, when it was clear the public was displeased with the direction in which Washington was moving under Democratic party rule, President Obama ignored the national clamor to slow down. Instead, he pushed ahead with an even more aggressive agenda, even as voters rejected his agenda wherever they had the chance – in such Democratic strongholds as New Jersey and Massachusetts," he continued.

The opinion from only two-thirds of Democrats that Obama has been "open and transparent" is a "flashing red danger signal, but it is unclear the Obama administration is paying attention to such things," Wenzel said.

The fundamental question of his eligibility originally came up during his campaign.

"This is an issue that … is easily put to rest once and for all by his release of his long-form birth certificate," Wenzel said. "His refusal to do so has fed the idea that he has something to hide. Americans aren't asking him to prove a negative here – that he didn't do something illegal – but rather are simply asking that he prove a positive: that he was born on American soil.

"When required, every American citizen produces their birth certificate for a variety of reasons, and it is no big deal. This is why Obama's refusal to produce his is so baffling – and so troubling – to so many people," he said.

Aaron Klein's exposé of Barack Obama's notorious connections with extremists and America-haters is scorching the best-seller lists. Order your copy of "The Manchurian President" today.

Asked specifically if Americans believe Obama was born in the U.S. to two U.S. citizens – one accepted definition of a "natural born citizen," as required by the U.S. Constitution for a president – only 38 percent said yes.

Fifty-two percent agreed Obama is hiding something by refusing to release his documentation.

"Asked specifically about their beliefs about the place of Obama's birth, 39 percent said they suspect he was not born in the United States. This belies the efforts of the Obama administration to paint so-called 'birthers' as a right-wing fringe group. Even among Democrats, nearly one in four – 22 percent – said they either suspect he was not born in the U.S. or that they are not sure on the question," Wenzel said.

WND columnist David Limbaugh said even the "liberal New York Times has begun to notice" that Obama "is still playing hide-and-seek with the press."

"Not having a genuine news conference since July would be remarkable for the least transparent administration, let alone one that made openness a signature campaign issue," he wrote just days ago.

Likewise, WND founder and CEO Joseph Farah has noted Obama's secrecy in connection to the developing case of Rep. Joe Sestak, D-Pa.

Sestak has reported he was offered a job in the Obama administration in exchange for dropping out of the Pennsylvania senatorial primary race against Sen. Arlen Specter.

 "If he's telling the truth, and can prove it, a very serious crime has been committed by someone in the Obama administration – one that could lead right to the president's door," he wrote.

 "Of course, this calls for an independent investigation. A probe of this kind cannot be directed by anyone within the Obama administration. It cannot be conducted by the Democratic Congress in a critical election year. It requires the appointment of a special counsel with full subpoena power. It also requires some transparency and answers from a regime that has pledged to be the most open administration in history."
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on June 03, 2010, 09:15:04 am
Army refuses LTC Lakin's request for witnesses and evidence from Hawaii or elsewhere on Obama's eligibility, hearing to proceed 6/11/10.

All records pertaining to Obama were denied, including Hawaii officials. Major General Paul Vallely, Colonel William Rice, Colonel Dale Block, and Dr. Alan Keyes were "anointed" as witnesses. Full ruling embedded below.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/army-refuses-ltc-lakins-request-for.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on June 04, 2010, 12:11:23 pm
Obama's brother from another mother was denied entry in the United Kingdom due to a "false document"... Oh, and a fingerprint match linked Brother Obama to an alleged sexual attack on a British girl. A confirmed falsified document below and some... I wonder why the Drudge Report is just now running this year-old story... hmmm

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/obamas-brother-from-another-mother.html


It looks like LTC Lakin’s lawyers really screwed up his upcoming Article 32 hearing, scheduled for June 11.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10699


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on June 08, 2010, 12:57:30 pm
The National Writers Syndicate, a vast network of conservative intellectuals, Birfers and ‘Baggers, has endorsed Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. for California Secretary of State in today’s Republican primary.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10748


Taitz Campaign: Don’t Count The Votes!

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10777


Fox News Military Analyst, Major General Paul Vallely Calls for the Resignation of Obama aka Soetoro, and New Elections

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/fox-news-military-analyst-major-general.html
 
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 14, 2010, 11:01:00 am
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165981

Election official: I'd testify Obama not born in Hawaii
Clerk willing to swear in court about no hospital birth record

Posted: June 13, 2010
5:10 pm Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

(http://www.wnd.com/images/logos/cityandcountyofhonolulu250.jpg)

The former Honolulu elections clerk who says President Obama was "definitely" not born in Hawaii and has no birth certificate from any hospital in the Aloha State says he's willing to testify in court to those facts.

"The things I've said, I don't mind testifying in court," Tim Adams, the senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in the 2008 campaign, told WND in an exclusive interview.

"I was working there, and this is what it was. I'm not a lawyer, just a civil servant. I know what I know. I know what I was told by the hospitals and by my supervisors."

The hottest book in America is the one that exposes the real Obama and all his men (and women)! Get your autographed copy only from WND!

Adams, a Hillary Clinton supporter who now teaches English at Western Kentucky University while he works on his master's degree, burst onto the scene last week in a WND story in which he asserted Obama was not born in Hawaii as the White House claims and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist there.

"There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."

(http://www.wnd.com/images/090802bc9.jpg)

"I had direct access to the Social Security  database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

At the time, there were conflicting reports that Obama had been born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, as well as the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children across town. So Adams says his office checked with both facilities.

(http://www.wnd.com/images/headshots/timadams.jpg)

Tim Adams, the former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, says President Obama was "definitely" not born in Hawaii,and a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not exist in the state.

"They told us, 'We don't have a birth certificate for him,'" he said. "They told my supervisor, either by phone or by e-mail, neither one has a document that a doctor signed off on saying they were present at this man's birth."

To date, no Hawaiian hospital has provided documented confirmation Obama was born at its facility.

Adams, 45, stressed, "In my professional opinion, he definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."

WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.

"His title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu.

Adams oversaw a group of 50 to 60 employees and was responsible for verifying the identity of voters, especially absentee voters.

He now expects his former co-workers still working in the elections office to say little, if anything, about the non-existent birth certificate because they fear for their jobs.

"If you're working in the civil service and you say this, you're done," Adams said. "Don't expect to have a good career, especially since the governor is on the other side. Embarassing them is not good for your career."

(http://www.wnd.com/images/LindaLingle.jpg)

Gov. Linda Lingle, R-Hawaii

Last month, as WND reported, Hawaii's Republican Gov. Linda Lingle reignited Obama's origin on a New York radio show.

"It's been an odd situation," Lingle said. "This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it's one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country.

"So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it's again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this."

Although the governor now claims she issued a news release stating Kapi'olani is Obama's birthplace, the actual release said no such thing, making no reference to Kapi'olani nor any other specific location of Obama's birth.

WND asked Adams about the governor's assertions about viewing a hospital-generated birth certificate from Hawaii.

"Then where is it? And why all the smoke and mirrors?" he responded. "They could end the controversy by producing the document, and they never have. It doesn't exist."

"Why would they say they've seen it and not produce it? I don't know," he added. "If they said they've seen the document, then why not produce the document? There's no need to put themselves out like that. I can't even begin to think why they did that except for some kind of political expediency. I'm too far down the totem pole [to know]."

While Adams, who noted he spent nearly 10 years in the islands and has a bachelor's degree from the University of Hawaii, says he's certain Obama was not born there, he also does think the president is indeed a U.S. citizen, since his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham was born an American.

He says he merely would like to see the truth come out and have the controversy over natural-born citizenship and presidential eligibility resolved once and for all.

"It's come to the point where it's a monster, and it's time to kill it," Adams said. "Solve the problem so that everyone can get back to cooperating to improve the country. People have lost sight that we're trying to make the country a better place."

WND's original report about Adams' claims has already been made into a YouTube video, getting thousands of hits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo3Aj2eqmS8

    
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on June 15, 2010, 03:10:18 pm
TRSoL Exclusive: HI Elections Clerk: “I believe Obama is eligible to hold office” (Update 3)

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/06/11/trsol-exclusive-hi-elections-clerk-i-believe-obama-is-eligible-to-hold-office/


Eligibility Update: HI Elections Clerk Would Answer Questions on Record; LTC Lakin Court Martial Reactions

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/06/13/eligibility-update-hi-elections-clerk-would-answer-questions-on-record-ltc-lakin-court-martial-reactions/



Obama admits what we’ve known all along

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/06/13/obama-admits-what-weve-known-all-along/








Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on June 16, 2010, 05:40:08 pm
Let's face it Sotero doesn't have one and the NWO is about to ditch him anyway, they are already lining up Palin.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: WhiteWitch on June 16, 2010, 06:37:23 pm
OK,
Forgive me if Im jumping the gun here, but just read the first few responses on this thread and Im completely baffled..
Im not saying Obama's great leave him alone or anything, but I would like to raise the non Xenophobic question..

WHO CARES IF HE'S KENYAN??

This is like that scene in Dragon the Bruce Lee Story when his soon to be wife's mother says "but hes not american"..
Where the hell do you get off??
The only "Americans" on the whole continent are the people who were ripped off by the theiving colonists (the name's a dead giveaway, "Native Americans").. Look down your family tree, the majority of your roots spring from another continent too. So get off your stupid high horses and realise that there is no such thing as a White Christian American.. Its doublethink..

Who cares where he was born, or where Arnie was born? So long as theyre still human (although that may be debatable :D) then whats the problem? America has less right to be so xenophobic than any other country worldwide, theyre only competitor is Australia (and the reason they fall behind is because those convicts didnt choose to be dumped there, whereas the colonists in America set out to do what they did from the beginning)..

If he sucks as a president, well thats politics for you.. They all suck.. Its what theyre paid to do..(mind you, thats certainly not how they sell it!)

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 17, 2010, 01:37:38 pm
OK,
Forgive me if Im jumping the gun here, but just read the first few responses on this thread and Im completely baffled..
Im not saying Obama's great leave him alone or anything, but I would like to raise the non Xenophobic question..

WHO CARES IF HE'S KENYAN??


This is like that scene in Dragon the Bruce Lee Story when his soon to be wife's mother says "but hes not american"..
Where the hell do you get off??
The only "Americans" on the whole continent are the people who were ripped off by the theiving colonists (the name's a dead giveaway, "Native Americans").. Look down your family tree, the majority of your roots spring from another continent too. So get off your stupid high horses and realise that there is no such thing as a White Christian American.. Its doublethink..

Who cares where he was born, or where Arnie was born? So long as theyre still human (although that may be debatable :D) then whats the problem? America has less right to be so xenophobic than any other country worldwide, theyre only competitor is Australia (and the reason they fall behind is because those convicts didnt choose to be dumped there, whereas the colonists in America set out to do what they did from the beginning)..

If he sucks as a president, well thats politics for you.. They all suck.. Its what theyre paid to do..(mind you, thats certainly not how they sell it!)


Answer: Anyone who believes in the U.S. Constitution.

Barry Soetoro has not produced proof/credible documentation that he was born in the United States, or even proof that he is an American citizen.

Your argument, which is weak, is running down the ol' left lib call it racist alley---this thread is not about that.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on June 17, 2010, 03:43:19 pm
Supposedly if they are American citizens their loyalties will be with America.  That was the original plan.  But nowadays loyalty and conviction of belief in mankind are rare things because man worships the almighty dollar instead of the Almighty.  Few people feel this country is special or have pride in it anymore.  First they removed pride in it from school (couldnt tear it down unless the people were dissatisfied with the way it was) then they began the self-fullfilling prophecy of destroying it so they could  say...see? Told ya.  It's sad because it took only a handful of people to accomplish its demise. I hate how people still fall for the oldest trick in the book.   IMO
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Shroom! on June 17, 2010, 11:30:23 pm
Answer: Anyone who believes in the U.S. Constitution.



The consitution says that god should be seperate from state. Yet I seem to remember a certain GW Bush saying that god had spoken to him and advised him on the war effort. Riiiiight. Not only does he go against your constitution by involving god, but he flat out lies to you. Nobody in power gives two shits about your constitution.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 18, 2010, 12:59:54 pm
The consitution says that god should be seperate from state. Yet I seem to remember a certain GW Bush saying that god had spoken to him and advised him on the war effort. Riiiiight. Not only does he go against your constitution by involving god, but he flat out lies to you. Nobody in power gives two shits about your constitution.

Hence the Infowar against the NWO--and what do you know?--here we are on the forum, with many of us defending our Constitution, and in this case, against a usurper in the WH.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 18, 2010, 01:03:34 pm

Hawaiian elections clerk has eligibility 'solution'
Official who says Obama has no birth certificate thinks idea would 'solve the entire controversy'

Posted: June 16, 2010
9:11 pm Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2010 WorldNetDaily


The former Honolulu elections clerk who maintains President Obama was not born in Hawaii and has no birth certificate from any hospital in the Aloha State is promoting a simple way to resolve the uproar over eligibility, at least for the future.

Tim Adams, 45, senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in the 2008 campaign, says all candidates for all offices should be required to prove their identity and eligibility before they can even run.

"The easiest way would be to pass legislation saying everyone has to verify their identity when they're running for office," Adams told WND in an exclusive interview last week. "I do think requiring everyone to certify their identity would probably solve the entire controversy."

Adams stresses the requirement should be for all political contests, from the presidency down to local races, to make sure officeholder-wannabes are who they say they are, and live in the proper district, for instance.

The hottest book in America is the one that exposes the real Obama and all his men (and women)! Get your autographed copy only from WND!

Regarding Obama's case specifically, he said, "I'd like to see it resolved finally."

"It's quite strange because when the next cycle comes, will they require that he show the birth certificate, or will he not get on the ballot in those states?" he wondered.

Adams, a Hillary Clinton supporter who now teaches English at Western Kentucky University while he works on his master's degree, burst onto the scene last week in a WND story in which he asserted that Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House claims and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist there.


Tim Adams, the former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, says President Obama was "definitely" not born in Hawaii, and a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not exist in the state.

"There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."

"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

He stressed, "In my professional opinion, [Obama] definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."

At the request of his university, Adams is now declining any further comment on the matter.

WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.

"His title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu.

Adams oversaw a group of 50 to 60 employees and was responsible for verifying the identity of voters, especially absentee voters.

WND's original report about Adams' claims has already been made into a YouTube video, getting nearly 200,000 hits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo3Aj2eqmS8

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on June 18, 2010, 02:13:53 pm
Quote
Barack H Obama Born in Kenya The REAL Birth Certificate AT LAST!.wmv


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSiz49IWJH0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSiz49IWJH0)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: WhiteWitch on June 18, 2010, 03:50:15 pm
OK, what nationality was the first American President?
(mind you, that was the guy who was involved in writing the constitution which called for the seperation of church and state, didnt they initially flee the UK because of that very problem??)

My point is, whether you can demonsrate loyalty to your job has nothing to do with where you were born.. He didnt grow up there and engage in Anti American activities and then migrate the year before the election did he? I dont feel any great loyalty to my country and Ive lived here all my life. Its a land mass, and the fact that my parents were born here and my mother happened to give birth to me here does not mean that I have to automatically defend my country because I dont. I had no choice in where I was born, and Im pretty sure my body would far prefer a different climate. But according to a piece of paper, Im stuck with my nationality no matter where I go.

Borders and countries are man made things. Animals, water, fires, earthquakes, tornadoes, none of these things care where us men have drawn an imaginary line in the ground. And the fact we get so hung up on it is what causes an awful lot of unrest and other nasty situations.
I know a man who's parents are Scottish, on holiday in Nigeria his mother went into labour prematurely, he was born in Nigeria, but he ended up living in Australia until he married an Irish lady and moved to Ireland. He spent a few months in Nigeria, 30 odd years in Australia and 20 odd years in Ireland.. Yet technically he's Nigerian.. Can you see how utterly ridiculous that is?

Where you were born doesnt mean anything. The President is a citizen, that should be enough. George W was American and look what a mess was left in his wake.. Somehow I dont think where you popped out is of any merit to your ability or inability as the case may be to do your job.. Thinking that it does is xenophobic. If you cant see that perhaps you need to reexamine why you have such a big problem with it.
 
"as for flags, they're far less useful than toilet paper, noone has ever been caused distress by running out of flags" -Serj Tankian

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on June 18, 2010, 04:01:02 pm
If nothing is wrong, then why the sealed documents?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on June 18, 2010, 04:51:37 pm
OK, what nationality was the first American President?
(mind you, that was the guy who was involved in writing the constitution which called for the seperation of church and state, didnt they initially flee the UK because of that very problem??)

My point is, whether you can demonsrate loyalty to your job has nothing to do with where you were born.. He didnt grow up there and engage in Anti American activities and then migrate the year before the election did he? I dont feel any great loyalty to my country and Ive lived here all my life. Its a land mass, and the fact that my parents were born here and my mother happened to give birth to me here does not mean that I have to automatically defend my country because I dont. I had no choice in where I was born, and Im pretty sure my body would far prefer a different climate. But according to a piece of paper, Im stuck with my nationality no matter where I go.

Borders and countries are man made things. Animals, water, fires, earthquakes, tornadoes, none of these things care where us men have drawn an imaginary line in the ground. And the fact we get so hung up on it is what causes an awful lot of unrest and other nasty situations.
I know a man who's parents are Scottish, on holiday in Nigeria his mother went into labour prematurely, he was born in Nigeria, but he ended up living in Australia until he married an Irish lady and moved to Ireland. He spent a few months in Nigeria, 30 odd years in Australia and 20 odd years in Ireland.. Yet technically he's Nigerian.. Can you see how utterly ridiculous that is?

Where you were born doesnt mean anything. The President is a citizen, that should be enough. George W was American and look what a mess was left in his wake.. Somehow I dont think where you popped out is of any merit to your ability or inability as the case may be to do your job.. Thinking that it does is xenophobic. If you cant see that perhaps you need to reexamine why you have such a big problem with it.
 
"as for flags, they're far less useful than toilet paper, noone has ever been caused distress by running out of flags" -Serj Tankian



Restriction 'un-American'  Why we demand natural born citizenship of our politicians.

The barrier to foreign-born citizens becoming president stems from fears that the Founding Fathers had during the Constitutional Convention of 1787. They were concerned that subversive enemies could force the fledgling republic back to foreign monarchical rule. Delegates didn't want the United States to suffer the same fate as Poland, which in 1772 had been partitioned among Austria, Prussia and Russia after agents of those countries bribed Polish nobles to elect a disloyal king.  
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 18, 2010, 05:19:45 pm
OK, what nationality was the first American President?
(mind you, that was the guy who was involved in writing the constitution which called for the seperation of church and state, didnt they initially flee the UK because of that very problem??)

My point is, whether you can demonsrate loyalty to your job has nothing to do with where you were born.. He didnt grow up there and engage in Anti American activities and then migrate the year before the election did he? I dont feel any great loyalty to my country and Ive lived here all my life. Its a land mass, and the fact that my parents were born here and my mother happened to give birth to me here does not mean that I have to automatically defend my country because I dont. I had no choice in where I was born, and Im pretty sure my body would far prefer a different climate. But according to a piece of paper, Im stuck with my nationality no matter where I go.

Borders and countries are man made things. Animals, water, fires, earthquakes, tornadoes, none of these things care where us men have drawn an imaginary line in the ground. And the fact we get so hung up on it is what causes an awful lot of unrest and other nasty situations.
I know a man who's parents are Scottish, on holiday in Nigeria his mother went into labour prematurely, he was born in Nigeria, but he ended up living in Australia until he married an Irish lady and moved to Ireland. He spent a few months in Nigeria, 30 odd years in Australia and 20 odd years in Ireland.. Yet technically he's Nigerian.. Can you see how utterly ridiculous that is?

Where you were born doesnt mean anything. The President is a citizen, that should be enough. George W was American and look what a mess was left in his wake.. Somehow I dont think where you popped out is of any merit to your ability or inability as the case may be to do your job.. Thinking that it does is xenophobic. If you cant see that perhaps you need to reexamine why you have such a big problem with it.
 
"as for flags, they're far less useful than toilet paper, noone has ever been caused distress by running out of flags" -Serj Tankian


Before I begin, regarding: "The President is a citizen, that should be enough."

You need to read this thread closer. Obama/Soetoro/Dunham - has not proved he is a citizen of the United States. No documentation has been brought forward, it is sealed, along with his other records.
If Obama was an Indonesian Citizen, as his school records claim, then he (his parents; his father) would have had to renounce his American Citizenship (if he had it in the first place.) IF Obama did not then become a U.S. Citizen afterward--THEN he is still an alien in the U.S. Meaning he could not legally serve as a Senator (which Attorney Phil Berg believes is the case), let alone President.

Okay--now to the main issue at hand--

The reason to expose Obama for who he really is, to get his records unsealed to the light of day,  is to get to the bottom of what is real and what is CIA fabrication.

The Native/Natural born requirement in the Constitution was important to our founding fathers, as it should be to us, because the founders of the United States knew all too well how foreign powers (bankers) were trying to gain control over America. And putting one of their agents into command would be their grand plan--Enter Obama: Goldman Sachs backed and many GS people now in government appointments.

The Fascists plan is being steam rolled through the Senate and Congress in triple time. Best way to throw a wrench in the gears is go after the NWO's Achilles Heel---a usurper in the WH. EVERYTHING he has signed becomes null and void. The Dems fall from grace, since they are in on the scam. George Bush is still in recent memory enough to damage the Republicans rep--but someone like Ron Paul has launched a hopeful REVolution--Americans now have a real chance to get a third party launched with the average Joe and Jane willing to vote for positive Hope & Change.

  
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on June 18, 2010, 11:47:48 pm
My name is Barry Soetoro and I was born in Nyang'oma Kogelo AKA Kenya, so says old report from  Indonesia Matters

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-name-is-barry-soetoro-and-i-was-born.html


Congressman says Obama birthplace 'not in Hawaii' - Inglis spars with Colbert over race in South Carolina district, just joking?

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/congressman-bob-inglis-says-obama-not.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Letsbereal on June 18, 2010, 11:57:07 pm
(http://americangrandjury.org/article_photos/kenya_sign.jpg)

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on June 19, 2010, 12:20:13 am
I keep praying...it is one big fat hope!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Shroom! on June 19, 2010, 06:45:08 am
The main reason to distrust Obama (as I have from day 1) has nothing to do with his race/heritage/background. It is simply because he is your President. That fact alone should be enough to disregard every word he says. American-born Presidents have done you no good. The Bushes have done nothing but make the rest of the world hate you. Wherever Obama is from it doesn't matter. Anyone in a postion of power such as him and his administration have, should not be trusted. To be honest, Im surprised he hasn't been gunned down yet by some racist f**ckhead. I wouldn't wish that to happen, don't take me up wrong. What I would wish is that all those maniacally patriotic Americans would stop masturbating over their stars 'n' stripes and falling for every word the "big important, clever men" say.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 19, 2010, 10:56:46 am
The main reason to distrust Obama (as I have from day 1) has nothing to do with his race/heritage/background. It is simply because he is your President. That fact alone should be enough to disregard every word he says. American-born Presidents have done you no good. The Bushes have done nothing but make the rest of the world hate you. Wherever Obama is from it doesn't matter. Anyone in a postion of power such as him and his administration have, should not be trusted. To be honest, Im surprised he hasn't been gunned down yet by some racist f**ckhead. I wouldn't wish that to happen, don't take me up wrong. What I would wish is that all those maniacally patriotic Americans would stop masturbating over their stars 'n' stripes and falling for every word the "big important, clever men" say.

Regarding: "American-born Presidents have done you no good."

Really?

May I suggest a little reading? --A Heritage of Stone by Jim Garrison.

---John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Jack to his close friends, was issuing Silver Certificates in an effort to wrestle financial power away from the Federal Reserve, "bring the boys home" aka--end the Vietnam War before it escalated and stop the war economy in its tracks, scale down the huge subsidizing of big oil, splinter the CIA to the 4 winds,  reign in and prosecute organized crime, increase civil rights for black and minority Americans, and forge peace with Russia and Cuba. In short EVERYTHING the NWO was/is against.

Then the Banker/Skull & Bones/Military/Intelligence/Media complex assassinated JFK in a public show of power and proceeded to get away with it in a massive cover-up that goes on to this day.

Since the tragedy in Dallas, the NWO has filled the President's Oval Office with one of their puppets, this current one, Soetoro, has an Achilles Heel.

Related--

This is a very powerful speech by Rev. Manning concerning the JFK assassination and Dr. King.

Dr.King, First Black Vice President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZSBmkxsdnE



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 19, 2010, 11:05:39 am
(http://americangrandjury.org/article_photos/kenya_sign.jpg)


Thanks...but Menace has said this is a Photoshop special...still, thanks, it's the thought that counts...(and odds are... it is true.)
 ;)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Shroom! on June 19, 2010, 10:51:24 pm
Regarding: "American-born Presidents have done you no good."

Really?

May I suggest a little reading? --A Heritage of Stone by Jim Garrison.

---John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Jack to his close friends, was issuing Silver Certificates in an effort to wrestle financial power away from the Federal Reserve, "bring the boys home" aka--end the Vietnam War before it escalated and stop the war economy in its tracks, scale down the huge subsidizing of big oil, splinter the CIA to the 4 winds,  reign in and prosecute organized crime, increase civil rights for black and minority Americans, and forge peace with Russia and Cuba. In short EVERYTHING the NWO was/is against.

Then the Banker/Skull & Bones/Military/Intelligence/Media complex assassinated JFK in a public show of power and proceeded to get away with it in a massive cover-up that goes on to this day.

Since the tragedy in Dallas, the NWO has filled the President's Oval Office with one of their puppets, this current one, Soetoro, has an Achilles Heel.

Related--

This is a very powerful speech by Rev. Manning concerning the JFK assassination and Dr. King.

Dr.King, First Black Vice President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZSBmkxsdnE





Sorry, I should have said the last several American-born presidents, not all of them. Although I do not think that any administration has ever been without its share of corruption.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on June 19, 2010, 10:55:05 pm
Where were all these articles back in 2009?

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COMPLICITIES - Obama - CRIME SCENE (The Mistake, The Evidence, Obama is NOT a constitutional president)Posted by Beverley H McLamb on September 11, 2009 at 2:39pm in American Grand Jury
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The Theory is Now a Conspiracy And Facts Don’t Lie

By JB Williams ThursdCOMPLICITIES - Obama - CRIME SCENE (The Mistake, The Evidence, Obama is NOT a constitutional president)ay, September 10, 2009

Though we live in an era when all undesirable facts are often blindly labeled “conspiracy theories” by political operatives with an agenda at risk, a very real conspiracy unfolds every now and then.

While it is indeed true that not all theories are actual conspiracies, like when Hillary Clinton developed an imaginary “right-wing conspiracy” out to get her husband, when in fact, the semen stained dress provided all the necessary (but unfriendly) facts and a perfectly logical explanation for all of those nasty rumors – it is also true that some conspiracies are much more than just crackpot theory.

To be a bonafide conspiracy, two or more individuals must knowingly conspire, plot or plan an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious act. In politics or law, an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act, is a “conspiracy.” Not in theory, but in reality.

Such is the case today!

A political national committee, the Chair of the Party convention, the Secretary of the Party, Party offices in each of fifty states, and maybe many – many more, have knowingly and wantonly defrauded the American election system and more than 300 million American citizens.

They plotted and planned an act of evil, unlawful, treacherous fraud in a blind quest for unbridled political power, and they hoped that you would never catch it. They almost got away with it too…

They snuck it past fifty state election commissions, congress, the US Supreme Court and Justice Department, the Federal Elections Commission and countless members of the Electoral College nationwide. Not a single member of the, as Limbaugh says, “drive-by media” caught it either, or if they did, they decided to become complicit for their own political reasons.

But as is always the case with liars, cheats and thieves, they slip up – make a silly mistake – overplay their hand – leave evidence lying around that they had forgotten about. And as with all chronic liars, they eventually get caught in their own web of lies.

Then, one day, someone stumbles into that evidence, and the house of cards comes crashing down around them. It’s almost poetic…

The Mistake
Aware of the fact that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office of President, what well-seasoned professional politician would be stupid enough to sign their name and stake their personal career upon certifying Obama as eligible?

Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates are nominated at their respective Party Conventions.

Believe it or not, each Party is assigned the duty of vetting and certifying the legal eligibility of their own candidates. I know, like asking the fox to guard the henhouse, right. But hey, we are talking about a country which still thinks there is a separation of powers between the High Court and the Executive branch, which seats that court by way of political appointment, confirmed by congress, which wants a piece of the judge and expects a few political favors too.

The Evidence

In this case, the Democrat Party was responsible for vetting and certifying Barack Hussein Obama as legally eligible to seek the Oval Office. The U.S. Constitution has only three very specific requirements for the job. The proper legal text used on the DNC Party “Official Certification of Nomination” document reads as follows, and I quote;

“THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”




Yes, I know…. there is a typo in there. Not my typo, it belongs to whoever prepared the official document at the DNC. Did you catch it?
The document is signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Colorado Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson. It is dated August 28, 2008.

However, this document was never delivered to a single state DNC Office for state certification, and it was therefore, never presented to any state Election Commission as certification of these candidates, although I do have a copy of this notarized document myself.

Instead, a very similar document was delivered to fifty state DNC offices, which those offices certified to each of fifty state Election Commissions, who then date-stamped the document and stuck it in a file cabinet, and proceeded to place these “certified” candidates on the ballot.

The “Official Certification of Nomination” that was presented by the DNC in all fifty states for the 2008 Presidential election, in which Barack Hussein Obama became the new President of the United States, was almost identical, and it too was signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson, dated August 28, 2008.

But this version of the document was missing the following text, and I quote;

“- and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”

The legal certification text on the DNC certified nomination document used for the DNC ticket was limited to, and I quote;

“THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively:






Oops, another typo? The reference to Obama’s constitutional eligibility was missing… An accidental omission?

The text certifying that Barack Hussein Obama was “legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution” had been removed from the document sent to the states. And yes, I have a copy of this version of the DNC Official Certification of Nomination letter too!

In fact, this version is in Election Commission files of all fifty state Election Commission offices, state DNC headquarters, complete with date stamps, matching signatures, even the same Notary of Public authentication, and absent the constitutional text.

Just in case you are wondering, the answer is yes. This version also includes the same typo present in the version not submitted by the DNC, but including the constitutional text, which means both documents have the same place of origin.

The individual at DNC headquarters who prepared this very important document was not only a poor typist… they were sloppy enough to leave both versions of the signed documents lying around.

Now this is the stuff real conspiracies are made of!

The Implications
Please, allow me to connect the dots here…

The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one.
One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.
The version which is absent any certification of constitutional standing for the office of President is the version that was filed with every state in the country, and the one used by the DNC to elect Barack Obama President.
Oh, there is one more important document in this story.

The RNC “Official Certification of Nomination” for John McCain and Sarah Palin reads, and I quote:

“We do hereby certify that a national convention of Delegates representing the Republican Party of the United States, duly held and convened in the city of Saint Paul, State of Minnesota, on September 4, 2008, the following person, meeting the constitutional requirements for the Office of President of the United States, and the following person, meeting the constitutional requirements for the Office of Vice President of the Unites States, were nominated for such offices to be filled at the ensuing general election, November 4, 2008, viz;”




The certification of constitutional eligibility is there in the RNC Certification of Nomination presented to the state Election Commissions. It’s there in the document which the DNC had prepared, signed and notarized, but did NOT deliver to the states.

But it is NOT there in the DNC Certification of Nomination that the DNC used to certify and elect Barack Hussein Obama President and Joseph Biden Vice President of the United States of America.

Last, the fact that TWO DNC Certifications exist, both signed, dated and notarized by the same individuals on the same day, means that a very real conspiracy to commit election fraud was underway, and since it took until six months after the election to uncover it, the conspiracy was indeed successful.

Are you still wondering why Barack Obama has spent nearly $1.5 million in taxpayer’s funds to race Department of Justice lawyers around the country to stop all cases questioning Obama’s eligibility before discovery can force Obama to open up his top secret life?

Now I realize that leftists, I mean liberals, no “progressives” – don’t like getting all bogged down in minutia and nit-picky details like the Constitution, but this is actually very serious business here. We are talking about the top-down leadership of the ruling political Party knowingly and wantonly defrauding voters by way of playing monkey business with fraudulent election documents.

As Al Gore once said, the debate is OVER!

There is no honest debate on the matter anymore. Obama is NOT a constitutional president, which is to say, we do NOT have a constitutional federal administration at present and every anti-American policy of the last six months is also, BINGO! – Unconstitutional!

What is still in question however – does any court in America have the backbone to do what must be done? – And what do the American people do, if not one court in the nation has that kind of constitutional backbone today?

Obama’s DOJ has thus far been successful in blocking the people’s access to the courts by claiming that no American citizen, including another presidential candidate, has “proper standing” to demand proof of Obama’s constitutional eligibility for the office he fraudulently holds.

To be very clear, the RNC nomination form filed with the states certifies that John McCain met all constitutional requirements for the Office of President. But the DNC nomination form filed with the states is absent any such language.

I know what I conclude from these facts, but what do you conclude from these facts?

More importantly, what will a court of law conclude? Will they ever even agree to hear the evidence?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14583

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JB Williams is a business man, a husband, a father, and a writer. A no nonsense commentator on American politics, American history, and American philosophy. He is published nationwide and in many countries around the world. JB Williams’ website is jb-williams.com/
http://theregulatorsvigilancecommittee.ning.com/group/americangrandjury/forum/topics/complicities-obama-crime




Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: oyashango on June 20, 2010, 09:30:06 am
OK,
Forgive me if Im jumping the gun here, but just read the first few responses on this thread and Im completely baffled..
Im not saying Obama's great leave him alone or anything, but I would like to raise the non Xenophobic question..

WHO CARES IF HE'S KENYAN??

This is like that scene in Dragon the Bruce Lee Story when his soon to be wife's mother says "but hes not american"..
Where the hell do you get off??
The only "Americans" on the whole continent are the people who were ripped off by the theiving colonists (the name's a dead giveaway, "Native Americans").. Look down your family tree, the majority of your roots spring from another continent too. So get off your stupid high horses and realise that there is no such thing as a White Christian American.. Its doublethink..

Who cares where he was born, or where Arnie was born? So long as theyre still human (although that may be debatable :D) then whats the problem? America has less right to be so xenophobic than any other country worldwide, theyre only competitor is Australia (and the reason they fall behind is because those convicts didnt choose to be dumped there, whereas the colonists in America set out to do what they did from the beginning)..

If he sucks as a president, well thats politics for you.. They all suck.. Its what theyre paid to do..(mind you, thats certainly not how they sell it!)



WhiteWitch, I was where you were on this issue. I stated my case with what I thought was a good argument and stoodfast. However, I could no longer ignore the mounting evidence presented by PP members who were convinced that Obama was not legally qualified to be president. 

Since I do not mind being corrected in the search for truth, especially when I learned that Obama paid a gaggle of high priced lawyers to conceal most of his past history and to lock his original birth certificate. This from a man who professes a "transparent government" raised a huge red flag for me.

How on earth is he allowed to get away with not proving his citizenship to run for the office of presidency of a democratic republic?  What is he hiding? Why was he allowed to get away with this?  The constitution clearly states that one must be 34 years old, and born a natural citizen (meaning on American soil). That gaggle of high priced lawyers reminded me of the OJ Simpson debacle. A man whom all of America loved, yet when this crime was committed and he was arrested he cried "racism."  If Obama is allowed to get away with this and the American people do not call him on it, say good bye to the constitution and bill of rights. 
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: H0llyw00d on June 20, 2010, 10:39:24 am
So when and where are the Impeachment hearings going to begin???
Obviously, he's not American, so Long legged Mac-daddy needs to go, I'd say his Big money Lawyers sealing all proof of life Docs and Records pretty much says it all.
transparent my ass, Why do we keep getting these pathetic LIARS in the WH.....I know its not from the Smoke and Mirrors show they call "Voting", 2000 & 2004 proved that is now a BS scam.
Sadly, if we're not Vacationing @ FEMA Camps or blown up, or gassed by 2012, I predict this jerk will get yet another 4 years.....why not??...that illiterate idiot before him did (see above "voting" reference)
Sorry Barry, theres no "Hope" and you can keep the "Change"....


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Dear Mr. Sotero,
You are currently in violation of the US Constitution (Article ll, Section 1.)-No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

According to this, you are ineligible for your current position, thanks for all you've done to raise our taxes, reduce our jobs & pollute the world, but we can take it from here, please resign and quietly go away, Thank You

Sincerely,
American Patriots Everwhere

PS: please pass this information onto California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 20, 2010, 11:07:40 am
WhiteWitch, I was where you were on this issue. I stated my case with what I thought was a good argument and stoodfast. However, I could no longer ignore the mounting evidence presented by PP members who were convinced that Obama was not legally qualified to be president. 

Since I do not mind being corrected in the search for truth, especially when I learned that Obama paid a gaggle of high priced lawyers to conceal most of his past history and to lock his original birth certificate. This from a man who professes a "transparent government" raised a huge red flag for me.

How on earth is he allowed to get away with not proving his citizenship to run for the office of presidency of a democratic republic?  What is he hiding? Why was he allowed to get away with this?  The constitution clearly states that one must be 34 years old, and born a natural citizen (meaning on American soil). That gaggle of high priced lawyers reminded me of the OJ Simpson debacle. A man whom all of America loved, yet when this crime was committed and he was arrested he cried "racism."  If Obama is allowed to get away with this and the American people do not call him on it, say good bye to the constitution and bill of rights. 


Thank you, welcome to the fight.
 :)
(http://www.avsim.com/pages/0309/FirstClass/Casablanca.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 20, 2010, 11:15:01 am
So when and where are the Impeachment hearings going to begin???
Obviously, he's not American, so Long legged Mac-daddy needs to go, I'd say his Big money Lawyers sealing all proof of life Docs and Records pretty much says it all.
transparent my ass, Why do we keep getting these pathetic LIARS in the WH.....I know its not from the Smoke and Mirrors show they call "Voting", 2000 & 2004 proved that is now a BS scam.
Sadly, if we're not Vacationing @ FEMA Camps or blown up, or gassed by 2012, I predict this jerk will get yet another 4 years.....why not??...that illiterate idiot before him did (see above "voting" reference)
Sorry Barry, theres no "Hope" and you can keep the "Change"....

Odds for impeachment hearings aren't good, because that will include many of the key players in the Democratic party, as well as some in the Republican party that knew all about his lack of citizenship/native born status, plus the Supreme Court Judges who are ignoring this issue on purpose.

However--we can get something much better. I've said it before, I'll say it again: Obama is the Achilles Heel of the NWO--all that needs to be done is spread the word with the best internet documentation you can, get more and more average Joes and Janes talking about Barry Soetoro's sealed records: no proof of citizenship/birth certificate, etc. The NWO agenda will crack wide open with Barry Soetoro being exposed. Barry is their agent to con everyone into more taxation, war, and further loss of freedom all the while serving them Hope & Change kool aid.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/top-sites/obamas-sealed-background-documentation/

    * Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released — Lawyers fees — greater than $1,000,000 — birth certificate — $15.
    * Certification of Live Birth — Released – Counterfeit — Case and Affidavits
    * Admitted British citizenship at birth — Confirmed via FactCheck.org/FightTheSmears.com
    * Birth Announcement — Alleged to be a forgery
    * Hospital of birth — Kapi’olani Medical Center won’t confirm Obama’s birth assertion; sister claims a different hospital
    * Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    * Obama/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
    * Kindergarten records – Records lost (this is a big one — see here — read two frames)
    * Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    * Soetoro adoption records — Not released
    * Fransiskus Assisi School  School application — Released (by independent investigators)
    * Punahou School records — Not released
    * Soetoro/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
    * Selective Service Registration — Released – Counterfeit — Document Locator Number update — another FOIA request
    * Occidental College records — Not released
    * Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
    * Columbia College records — Not released
    * Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
    * Harvard College records — Not released
    * Harvard Law Review articles — None
    * Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
    * Baptism certificate — None
    * Medical records — Not released
    * Illinois State Senate records — None
    * Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
    * Law practice client list — Not released
    * University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
***********

There has been a tremendous amount of internet documentation amassed on this thread (walk through from the beginning and see what you find) and here in these threads:

Boom Shakalaka: Rev. James David Manning, HERO
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=126130.0

OBAMA AND THE LARRY SINCLAIR AFFAIR
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=125135.0

Barry Soetoro / CIA Agent / Usurper
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=168455.0

Armed with the best info you can find is the best chance to win the Info War against the NWO/Usurper agenda and get back our  Republic and Constitution.

Just get the word out to friends, neighbors, mainstream forums, comments--everywhere you can.
Slowly the light bulb will burn brighter and the masses will wake up as the MSM shills scream at them to go back to sleep.


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 20, 2010, 11:15:47 am
Sorry, I should have said the last several American-born presidents, not all of them. Although I do not think that any administration has ever been without its share of corruption.

Gotcha--thanks.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: H0llyw00d on June 20, 2010, 11:20:19 am

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/top-sites/obamas-sealed-background-documentation/

    * Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released — Lawyers fees — greater than $1,000,000 — birth certificate — $15.
    * Certification of Live Birth — Released – Counterfeit — Case and Affidavits
    * Admitted British citizenship at birth — Confirmed via FactCheck.org/FightTheSmears.com
    * Birth Announcement — Alleged to be a forgery
    * Hospital of birth — Kapi’olani Medical Center won’t confirm Obama’s birth assertion; sister claims a different hospital
    * Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    * Obama/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
    * Kindergarten records – Records lost (this is a big one — see here — read two frames)
    * Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    * Soetoro adoption records — Not released
    * Fransiskus Assisi School  School application — Released (by independent investigators)
    * Punahou School records — Not released
    * Soetoro/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
    * Selective Service Registration — Released – Counterfeit — Document Locator Number update — another FOIA request
    * Occidental College records — Not released
    * Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
    * Columbia College records — Not released
    * Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
    * Harvard College records — Not released
    * Harvard Law Review articles — None
    * Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
    * Baptism certificate — None
    * Medical records — Not released
    * Illinois State Senate records — None
    * Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
    * Law practice client list — Not released
    * University of Chicago scholarly articles — None


Nice, and thank you!!!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on June 20, 2010, 11:24:10 am
Nice, and thank you!!!


Welcome.
 ;)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on June 26, 2010, 12:22:24 am
Congressman John Boehner Willing to Present Obama Resignation Petitions to House, Get Busy Sending!

 http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/john-boehner-willing-to-present-obama.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on June 27, 2010, 08:15:20 am
More fake birth certificates? I still think all of this is going to end leading were Congress changes it were all birth certificates are issued throw the Federal government, and have biometrics to them.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/bombshell-hawaii-official-janice-okubos.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on June 28, 2010, 07:25:27 am
During a live broadcast from Rocco's Bar in Studio City on Sat 6/19's Fox News Broadcast, a patron "Brent" from RaceForTheTruth shouts out "Hey America, where's Barack Obama's real birth certificate?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45sIo24ShE8&feature=player_embedded


We Demand Resignation Petition; The Charges against the Obama Administration to be investigated, MGEN Paul Vallely Interview.

The Charges for "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" against Obama and his administration are now posted at the 'No Confidence, We Demand Resignation Petition' website. It was reported tonight on the Patriots Heart Network that the goal of 1,000 'Flame Builders' by Sunday was far surpassed.  Also, Major General Paul Vallely and Scott Wichell were on with Chalice Jackson to discuss the Obama admin. resignation/investigation drive in full detail. 

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/update-we-demand-resignation-petition.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on July 01, 2010, 04:58:05 pm
Selective Service System fails to answer additional FOIA requests regarding Barack Obama AKA Barry Soetoro

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/selective-service-system-fails-to.html

Via Attorney Mario Apuzzo; - The Third Circuit Court of Appeals Receives Kerchner v. Obama/Congress for Decision

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/third-circuit-court-of-appeals-receives.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: WhiteWitch on July 01, 2010, 05:28:41 pm
Ahh.. now I see.. OK, I apologise for my assumptions.. Like I said I hadnt had time to read the whole thread.
I can understand anyone having problems with a guy who claims to be honest and true and then disguises his doings.. but I wouldnt expect much more from a politician.. Democracy is a concept thats great in theory, but not practiced. What we in the "civilised" world call democracy is just clever marketing and master manipulation. Its just like how communism sounds lovely-but it doesnt work for the very same reason. Man is a flawed creature, some far more than others.
There are people out there that crave power and control so badly that they will do anything to get it. I tend to think if someone really wants to rule the country-theyre probably the person you want as far from a position of power as possible!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: lord edward coke on July 07, 2010, 02:59:49 pm
Ahh.. now I see.. OK, I apologise for my assumptions.. Like I said I hadnt had time to read the whole thread.
I can understand anyone having problems with a guy who claims to be honest and true and then disguises his doings.. but I wouldnt expect much more from a politician.. Democracy is a concept thats great in theory, but not practiced. What we in the "civilised" world call democracy is just clever marketing and master manipulation. Its just like how communism sounds lovely-but it doesnt work for the very same reason. Man is a flawed creature, some far more than others.
There are people out there that crave power and control so badly that they will do anything to get it. I tend to think if someone really wants to rule the country-theyre probably the person you want as far from a position of power as possible!
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oLIUT16ko0&feature=related

Obama was groomed for the presidency by key members of the Trilateral Commission. Most notably, Zbigniew Brzezinski, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller in 1973, has been Obama’s principal foreign policy advisor.

According to official Trilateral Commission membership lists, there are only eighty-seven members from the United States (the other 337 members are from other countries). Thus, within two weeks of his inauguration, Obama’s appointments encompassed more than 12 percent of Commission’s entire US membership.

Trilateral appointees include:
* Secretary of Treasury, Tim Geithner
* Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice
* National Security Advisor, Gen. James L. Jones
* Deputy National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon
* Chairman, Economic Recovery Committee, Paul Volker
* Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Dennis C. Blair
* Assistant Secretary of State, Asia & Pacific, Kurt M. Campbell
* Deputy Secretary of State, James Steinberg
* State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Haass
* State Department, Special Envoy, Dennis Ross
* State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Holbrooke

There are many other links in the Obama administration to the Trilateral Commission. For instance, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is married to Commission member William Jefferson Clinton.
Secretary of Treasury Tim Geithner’s informal group of advisors include E. Gerald Corrigan, Paul Volker, Alan Greenspan, and Peter G. Peterson, all members. Geithner’s first job after college was with Trilateralist Henry Kissinger at Kissinger Associates.

Trilateralist Brent Scowcroft has been an unofficial advisor to Obama and was mentor to Defense Secretary Robert Gates. And Robert Zoelick, current president of the World Bank appointed during the G.W. Bush administration, is a member.

According to the Trilateral Commissions’ website, the Commission was formed in 1973 by private citizens of Japan, Europe (European Union countries), and North America (United States and Canada) to foster closer cooperation among these core democratic industrialized areas of the world with shared leadership responsibilities in the wider international system. The website says, “The membership of the Trilateral Commission is composed of about 400 distinguished leaders in business, media, academia, public service (excluding current national Cabinet Ministers), labor unions, and other non-governmental organizations from the three regions. The regional chairmen, deputy chairmen, and directors constitute the leadership of the Trilateral Commission, along with an Executive Committee including about 40 other members.”
Since 1973, the Trilateral Commission has met regularly in plenary sessions to discuss policy position papers developed by its members. Policies are debated in order to achieve consensuses. Respective members return to their own countries to implement policies consistent with those consensuses. The original stated purpose of the Trilateral Commission was to create a “New International Economic Order.” Its current statement has morphed into fostering a “closer cooperation among these core democratic industrialized areas of the world with shared leadership responsibilities in the wider international system.”
Since the Carter administration, Trilateralists have held these very influential positions: Six of the last eight World Bank Presidents; Presidents and Vice-Presidents of the United States (except for Obama and Biden); over half of all US Secretaries of State; and three quarters of the Secretaries of Defense.

Two strong convictions guide the Commission’s agenda for the 2009-2012 triennium. First, the Trilateral Commission is to remain as important as ever in maintaining wealthy countries’ shared leadership in the wider international system. Second, the Commission will “widen its framework to reflect broader changes in the world.” Thus, the Japan Group has become a Pacific Asian Group, which includes Chinese and Indian members, and Mexican members have been added to the North American Group. The European Group continues to widen in line with the enlargement of the EU.

Update by Patrick Wood
The concept of “undue influence” comes to mind when considering the number of Trilateral Commission members in the Obama administration. They control the areas of our most urgent national needs: financial and economic crisis, national security, and foreign policy.

The conflict of interest is glaring. With 75 percent of the Trilateral membership consisting of non-US individuals, what influence does this super-majority have on the remaining 25 percent?
For example, when Chrysler entered bankruptcy under the oversight and control of the Obama administration, it was quickly decided that the Italian carmaker Fiat would take over Chrysler. The deal’s point man, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, is a member of the Trilateral Commission. Would you be surprised to know that the chairman of Fiat, Luca di Montezemolo, is also a fellow member?
Congress should have halted this deal the moment it was suggested.

Many European members of the Trilateral Commission are also top leaders of the European Union. What political and economic sway do they have through their American counterparts?
If asked, the vast majority of Americans would say that America’s business is its own, and should be closed to foreign meddlers with non-American agendas.
But, the vast majority of Americans have no idea who or what the Trilateral Commission is, much less the power they have usurped since 1976, when Jimmy Carter became the first Trilateral member to be elected president (Project Censored Story #1, 1976).

In light of today’s unprecedented financial crisis, they would be abhorred if they actually read Zbigniew Brzezinski’s (co-founder of the Commission with David Rockefeller) statement from his 1971 book, Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era, which states that, “The nation-state as a fundamental unit of man’s organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force: International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation-state.”
Yet, this is exactly what is happening. The global banks and corporations are running circles around the nation state, including the United States. They have no regard for due process, Congress, or the will of the people.

Why have the American people been kept in the dark about a subject so great that it shakes our country to its very core?
The answer is simple: The top leadership of the media is also saturated with members of the Trilateral Commission who are able to selectively suppress the stories that are covered. They include:
• David Bradley, Chairman, Atlantic Media Company
• Karen Elliot House, former Senior Vice President, Dow Jones & Company, and Publisher, the Wall Street Journal
• Richard Plepler, Co-president, HBO
• Charlie Rose, PBS
• Fareed Zakaria, Editor, Newsweek
• Mortimer Zuckerman, Chairman, US News & World Reports
There are many other top-level media connections due to corporate directorships and stock ownership.

For more information, this writer’s original 1978 book, Trilaterals Over Washington, is available in electronic form at no charge at http://www.AugustReview.com. This site also has many papers analyzing various aspects of the Trilateral Commission’s hegemony in the United States and elsewhere, since it’s founding in 1973.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: H0llyw00d on July 07, 2010, 03:24:41 pm
Congressman John Boehner Willing to Present Obama Resignation Petitions to House, Get Busy Sending!

 http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/john-boehner-willing-to-present-obama.html

*BUMP*
...and DO THIS!!!!!!
 http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/john-boehner-willing-to-present-obama.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on July 13, 2010, 09:12:57 am
Terry Lakin Discusses his Case and the Denial of Access to Key Witnesses and Information

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=9027


Senator David Vitter: Obama eligibility needs to be resolved in court, supports orgs that file suit against Obama.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/senator-david-vitter-obama-eligibility.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on July 13, 2010, 05:49:40 pm
OK,
Forgive me if Im jumping the gun here, but just read the first few responses on this thread and Im completely baffled..
Im not saying Obama's great leave him alone or anything, but I would like to raise the non Xenophobic question..

WHO CARES IF HE'S KENYAN??

This is like that scene in Dragon the Bruce Lee Story when his soon to be wife's mother says "but hes not american"..
Where the hell do you get off??
The only "Americans" on the whole continent are the people who were ripped off by the theiving colonists (the name's a dead giveaway, "Native Americans").. Look down your family tree, the majority of your roots spring from another continent too. So get off your stupid high horses and realise that there is no such thing as a White Christian American.. Its doublethink..

Who cares where he was born, or where Arnie was born? So long as theyre still human (although that may be debatable :D) then whats the problem? America has less right to be so xenophobic than any other country worldwide, theyre only competitor is Australia (and the reason they fall behind is because those convicts didnt choose to be dumped there, whereas the colonists in America set out to do what they did from the beginning)..

If he sucks as a president, well thats politics for you.. They all suck.. Its what theyre paid to do..(mind you, thats certainly not how they sell it!)



Restriction 'un-American'

The barrier to foreign-born citizens becoming president stems from fears that the Founding Fathers had during the Constitutional Convention of 1787. They were concerned that subversive enemies could force the fledgling republic back to foreign monarchical rule. Delegates didn't want the United States to suffer the same fate as Poland, which in 1772 had been partitioned among Austria, Prussia and Russia after agents of those countries bribed Polish nobles to elect a disloyal king.
 
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on July 13, 2010, 05:56:00 pm

WhiteWitch:
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WHO CARES IF HE'S KENYAN??

What a stupid statement ... typical of a witch I guess.



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on July 13, 2010, 06:05:13 pm
Ahh.. now I see.. OK, I apologise for my assumptions.. Like I said I hadnt had time to read the whole thread.
I can understand anyone having problems with a guy who claims to be honest and true and then disguises his doings.. but I wouldnt expect much more from a politician.. Democracy is a concept thats great in theory, but not practiced. What we in the "civilised" world call democracy is just clever marketing and master manipulation. Its just like how communism sounds lovely-but it doesnt work for the very same reason. Man is a flawed creature, some far more than others.
There are people out there that crave power and control so badly that they will do anything to get it. I tend to think if someone really wants to rule the country-theyre probably the person you want as far from a position of power as possible!

I'm not certain you grasp the full reality of it all. This isn't about him as a person, it's only about the Constitution and whether or not he has met the requirements of the Constitution to be President of the US. That's it. Look at any president and you can make a case that they should not have been in office due to their personal issues, but they all had to meet the demands of the Constitution to be president.

The other thing you said, about democracy, shows me you also might not understand what the US government actually is; it's not a democracy. Seriously. It's never been a democracy, nor was it intended to be a democracy. It's a constitutional republic. Big legal difference. There are those in power that want the public to think we have a democracy, which is a lie. It's not a case that we have failed in running a democracy like they want you to think. The truth is, this country never was legally a democracy in the first place, and was never suppose to be run as a democracy, but as a republic. That's the historical truth. Many of the founding fathers detested democracy and it's "mod rule" mentality.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on July 14, 2010, 02:27:13 pm
America is a Federated Republic.  With 3 Branches, an executive branch, a legislative branch and a judicial branch.

Republic - noun
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4. ( initial capital letter ) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
5. ( initial capital letter,  italics ) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

Federalism - 1. A system of government in which power is divided between a central authority and constituent political units.
2. Advocacy of such a system of government.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on July 20, 2010, 05:17:04 pm
Republican Election Commissioner Found Murdered in Monroe County!

Four law-enforcement agencies are investigating the death of a man whose body was found in the trunk of a burning vehicle and who appears to have been Monroe County Election Commission chairman Jim Miller."

"Miller's car was discovered "fully engulfed in flames" on Sands Road around 8 p.m. Saturday by a deputy on patrol, according to the Monroe County Sheriff's Department. Firefighters from the Christanburg Fire Department discovered the body inside the trunk."

"Besides the sheriff's office, the TBI, the state Bomb and Arson Department and the 10th District Attorney General's Office are investigating the case."

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/monroe-county-republican-election.html





Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on July 22, 2010, 03:45:01 pm

Tea Party Please Go Birth Certificate Viral

Rev. James Manning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv6xTlfJLLU
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: lord edward coke on July 23, 2010, 05:50:31 pm
Friday, July 23, 2010 


Berg seeks special prosecutor to investigate Obama—July 16, 2010>>>Former Pennsylvania Assistant Attorney General Philip Berg filed for a Petition for Rehearing En Banc under the False Claims Act of 1863 in the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. The filing is an appeal to Case 08-cv-01933RWR, stemming from Berg v Obama, 656 F.Supp. 2d 107 (D.D.C. 2009); order on June 9, 2009 dismissing Berg's case and a September 21, 2009 Memorandum and Order denying Relator's Motion for Reconsideration.

This Qui Tam case is based on the False Claims Act of 1863 (31 USC § 3729-3733 [generally referred to as the "Lincoln Law"] which allows people not affiliated with the government to file law suits against people who commit fraud against the government. Berg chose that filing because of the nature of the false claims which are affirmations by Barack Hussein Obama that he's a citizen of the United States even though he cannot, or will not, produce evidence that he is—since Berg believes Obama knows he's not. The basis of Berg's lawsuit is that a fraud was perpetuated on the People of the United States by Obama when he ran for, was elected to, and fraudulently held, the office of US Senator from Illinois. Berg pleads for and demands the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the allegations of election fraud against Obama. The special prosecutor's job would be to determine whether or not grounds exist to prosecute the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for fraudulently representing himself as a citizen of the United States and seeking and holding political offices he could neither constitutionally seek nor hold.

Berg further argues in his US Circuit Court of Appeals pleading that a special prosecutor is necessary since, without one, the decision of whether or not to investigate and/or prosecute the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue rests entirely and exclusively the Attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder, who reports directly to the alleged violator who, again, is the occupant of the White House. Berg contends that a conflict-of-interest exists which necessitates the appointment of a Special Prosecutor. (In the opinion of Jon Christian Ryter's Conservative World), the Special Prosecutor should be appointed by the Chief Justice of the United States. Berg further argues that a close, personal relationship exists between Obama and Holder and that Holder was the senior legal adviser to the Obama Campaign and served as one of the three members of Obama's Vice Presidential Selection Committee. Because of that, a major conflict-of-interest exists that precludes Holder from making unbiased decisions concerning any investigation of Obama for fraud that rise to the levels of conflict-of-interest codified in 5 CFR § 2635, et sequitur, 5 USC § 2640, et sequitur; 18 USC § 205 and 18 USC § 208.

Berg was forced to file the En Banc for a review by the full court because on June 30, 2010, Judges Anne Wilson Rogers, Merrick B. Garland and Janice Rogers Brown issued a ruling that Berg failed to demonstrate that Holder, as the United States Attorney General, his office or the attorneys on his staff, represent a conflict-of-interest with respect to the Attorney General investigating claims of fraud against Obama for running for, or holding, political offices to which he could not show he was constitutionally qualified to seek and/or hold. Rogers and Garland are Bill Clinton appointees. Brown was appointed by President George W. Bush. As a US District Court Judge, Brown was on Bush-43's short list to replace Sandra Day O'Connor. Instead, Bush chose Appellate Court Judge John G. Roberts, Jr. When Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist died, Bush switched horses in midstream and named Roberts for that job, picking Sam Alito to replace O'Connor. Brown was appointed to fill Roberts' seat on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals.

Interestingly, while the three judge panel ruled that Berg had not demonstrated that the Dept. of Justice and the Attorney General were biased in favor of Obama and should not be allowed to prosecute an investigation against him (since that prosecution would be biased in favor of the guy who signs their paychecks), its decision was not solely based on that circumstance. Rather, the crux of their decision came from three precedents: Swift v United States 318 F.3d 250, 253 (DC Cir. 2003) in which the government declared the US District Court's decision was not reviewable and United States v Armstrong, 517 US 456, 463 (1996). In essence, the three member panel of the US Circuit Court said that when the government decides to dismiss a case that opens a can of worms they don't want to hear, their decisions are not "reviewable."

When you look at the composite of the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, you find two of the active judges: David B. Sentelle and Douglas Ginsburg (who actually retired in 2008) were appointed by Ronald Reagan, one—Karen Henderson—was appointed by Bush-41, and three: Brown, Thomas B. Griffith and Brett Kavanaugh, were appointed by Bush-43. The other three: Rogers, Garland and David S. Tatel, were appointed by Clinton. Two seats are currently vacant.

I guess what Berg is asking the US DC Circuit to do is to overrule themselves—twice. Two of the precedents cited were decisions made by the US Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia which essentially ruled that the District Court has an "...unfettered right to dismiss [a qui tam] action...[as] not reviewable." I guess the odds of any federal court actually hearing a case that deals with Obama's lack of constitutional standing to hold any federal elective political office is about as good as former Clinton vice president Al Gore, Jr. holding a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington and admitting that man-induced global warming is a myth
http://www.jonchristianryter.com/News_Blurbs/blurbs.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: wvoutlaw2002 on July 23, 2010, 06:26:24 pm
Saw a supermarket tabloid today saying on the cover Obama was born in Africa. The CIA-controlled supermarket tabloid industry is just following orders to associate "birthers" with people who believe in aliens and "Elvis is still alive".
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: WhiteWitch on July 28, 2010, 03:28:04 pm
What a stupid statement ... typical of a witch I guess.

Hmmm, someones a bit prejudiced aren't they? Hope you're not a christian, otherwise you would be forgetting to "judge not lest ye be judged"...

1. As I had said in my post, I hadn't had a chance to read the whole thread as I was in a rush, but initially it did sound very racist, and if the American constitution "holds these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal" then the racism went against the very thing people were complaining was being disrespected. Perhaps you hadn't read my post before you decided to quote me and make your comments, but that would make you even more judgemental than first anticipated.. ???

2. I'm not American, so I don't spend my time reading up on all things American. My point, as I have just explained (that is, if you're actually reading it and not jumping to unfounded conclusions) was to do with what appeared to be racism, but the true issue was explained by others on this thread in a far more helpful and mature manner than your response. I had even responded to that before your post, I guess you hadn't read that either..

And yes, I am aware that at its heart America is not, and has never been a democracy (the Electoral College takes care of that for starters). It's also a third world country with playstations. Its a pity as America seems insistant on swaggering around the globe trying to instill their way upon others, it may be the very thing that brings down the entire planet, that is, if the empire doesn't collapse in on itself first.. Like Eddie Izzard said, "You guys <americans> are the new Roman Empire, so that means you have orgies and vomitariums to look forward to"
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on July 29, 2010, 03:45:50 am
Hawaii Ombudsman’s Office: Online research of requesters is acceptable

CAUGHT IN THE ACT:  HAWAII HEALTH DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES SANCTION VIOLATING U.S. CODE A
AND THEIR OWN OPEN RECORDS LAW

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/28/hawaii-ombudsmans-office-online-research-of-requesters-is-acceptable/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on August 02, 2010, 12:37:33 pm

Oops! Obama mama passport 'destroyed'

State Dept. claims records gone for Stanley Ann Dunham prior to 1968
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=186677

Posted: August 01, 2010
6:28 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

(http://www.wnd.com/images/100801stanleyanndunham.jpg)
Photo from Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro's 1972 passport records

Responding to a Freedom of Information Act request, the State Department has released passport records of Stanley Ann Dunham, President Obama's mother – but records for the years surrounding Obama's 1961 birth are missing.

The State Department claims a 1980s General Services Administration directive  resulted in the destruction of many passport applications and other "non-vital" passport records, including Dunham's 1965 passport application and any other passports she may have applied for or held prior to 1965.

Destroyed, then, would also be any records shedding light on whether Dunham did or did not travel out of the country around the time of Barack Obama's birth.

The claim made in the FOIA response letter that many passport records were destroyed during the 1980s comes despite a statement on the State Department website that Passport Services maintains U.S. passport records for passports issued from 1925 to the present.

Full story here--
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=186677

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on August 03, 2010, 02:05:12 am
Inconsistencies found in passport applications released by State Department for Obama’s alleged mother

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/01/inconsistencies-found-in-passport-applications-released-by-state-department-for-obamas-alleged-mother/

Some of Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama Soetoro's Passport Application Records Are Released due to Strunk FOIA Filing. Some of Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama Soetoro's Passport Application Records Are Released due to Strunk FOIA Filing

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/07/some-of-stanley-ann-dunham-obama.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/31498652/Kenyan-Ministers-Orengo-Khalwale-Obama-born-in-Kenya-not-native-American-should-repatriate


MONROE COUNTY TN. CORRUPTION TURNS VIOLENT. Steve Pidgeon working Fitzpatrick case...

What started out over a year ago as what seemed to be a simple citizen effort to report government wrong-doing in a Treason case against Barack Obama, filed by Retired Navy Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick III, turned into something unexpected when the Monroe County justice system obstructed justice and turned its evil sights on the Commander.

Since then, Fitzpatrick has been arrested and jailed twice, humiliated by local character assassination, threatened, roughed up and accused of inciting riot, which in Tennessee code can apparently be used against anyone when three or more citizens attempt to address their local public servants in a public place.

Fitzpatrick now stands trial on a host of rigged charges, all at the hands of local corrupt public servants who seem to have a history of such activity, and a growing tendency to become violent when citizens try to make public the level of crime and corruption in that quaint little Tennessee community.

http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/williams101.htm







Lt. Col. Lakin Arraignment scheduled for Aug. 6The Army has now referred charges against LTC Terrence Lakin for a General Court Martial. This action triggered the appointment of a Military Judge to preside over the trial, which will likely be scheduled before October, and held in Washington, D.C. at Ft. McNair.

On August 6, 2010 at Ft. McNair in Washington, D.C., the court will convene for the purpose of Judge Lind taking Lakin’s plea to the charges which consist of “missing movement” and of refusing to obey orders. Today Lakin stated: “I am not guilty of these charges, and will plead ‘not guilty’ to them because of my conviction that our Commander-in-Chief may be ineligible under the United States Constitution to serve in that highest of all offices. The truth matters. The Constitution matters. If President Obama is a natural born citizen then the American people deserve to see proof, and if he is not, then I believe the orders in this case were illegal.” If convicted, Lakin faces up to four years at hard labor in a federal penitentiary.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/02/lt-col-lakin-court-martial-scheduled-for-aug-6-2/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on August 04, 2010, 04:56:29 am
This is in regards to the recent FOIA release of Obama's mama Stanley Ann Dunham's passport records.

As reported here, all pre-1965 passport records for Stanley Ann Dunham were said to be destroyed even though they are required to maintain passport records for 100 years.  Also, the U.S. State Department website states that the Passport Services maintains passport records for passports issued from 1925 to present.

I guess this explains the passport breach during the 2008 presidential campaign!?


Via Christopher Strunk's Scribd; Declarant Strunk is in opposition to a summary judgment filed by the DOJ in my case Strunk v DOS et al. DCD 08-cv-2234 seeks further disclosure in regards to DOS spoliation of documents in regards to my request under FOIA the passport and related records of Stanley Ann Dunham et al.. I have been awaiting these records and more since October 2008 when I first filed a FOIA request related to my active case in New York Supreme Court where the records will be used when the disposition of the Summary Judgment is complete; Hopefully, I will receive the additional records that exist from 1960 onward too. Clearly when the DOS release is combined with the US Customs and Immigration service release to Ken Allen amounting to about 90 pages shows that Lolo Soetoro and Ann Soetoro were having difficulties that would only explain the removal of BHO from her passport in 1968 especially since the Indonesian Government in Soetoro's words, any American, was in jeopardy there in Indonesia due to the “anti-American feelings" is shown at page 103 of http://www.scribd.com/doc/35245956/S [embedded below]... attached to the U.S. Government memo of January 12, 1966 with pages marked 000077 through 000080 therein at page 000078 regarding Lolo Soetoro’s request for a INA section 212(e) waiver and two year extension for his stay in the USA with Ann Soetoro, (that according to the US Government document of August 6, 1968 all three returned to Indonesia on July 20, 1966); Soetoro states:

“Most importantly, anti-American feeling has reached a feverish pitch under the direction of the Indonesian communist party, and I have been advised by both family and friends in Indonesia that it would be dangerous to endeavor to return with my wife at the present time. Of secondary importance is the fact that my wife does not yet speak Indonesian, Not only would she be forced to cut short her college education, but she would be left in a position of isolation in the community,”

It appears from the cross comparison on both the Customs and DOS FOIA released documents that on October 20, 1071 Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro (SADS) and BHO (a.k.a Saebarkah Soetoro) together boarded Pan Am Airlines Flight 812 unaccompanied by Lolo M. Soetoro in Djakarta Indonesia and arrived in Honolulu Hawaii on October 21, 1971 and sought entry into the USA on an expired Passport issued July 19, 1965 according to the DS 1423 Form for REQUEST BY UNITED STATES NATIONAL FOR AND REPORT OF EXCEPTION TO SECTION 53.1, TITLE 22 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS with use of the expired Passport of July 19, 1965 shown as page 6

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/strunk-in-opposition-to-summary.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on August 05, 2010, 04:05:49 am
Elena Kagan tied to Obama's birth certificate 'It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=187797



New documents point to Indonesian citizenship Mother dropped Obama from U.S. passport when being American dangerous


Documents released by the State Department in two separate Freedom of Information Act requests bolster evidence Barack Obama became a citizen of Indonesia when he moved to the Southeast Asian nation with his mother and stepfather in the late 1960s.

In a passport amendment submitted Aug. 13, 1968, Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, identified her son with an Indonesian surname and asked the State Department to drop him from her U.S. passport.

The transaction could have been part of an effort by Dunham to obtain Indonesian citizenship for her son. It took place before the State Department began requiring all citizens traveling abroad, regardless of age, to obtain their own passport.

Several court cases challenging Obama's presidential eligiblity have argued he gave up his U.S. citizenship in Indonesia and used an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan in the early 1980s. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship.

The amendment was submitted less than a year after Dunham joined her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, in Indonesia. It requested "Barack Obama II (Soebarkah)" be removed from her U.S. passport, No. 777788.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=187813



Kenya gives Obama abortion, Islamic courts

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=187877
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on August 08, 2010, 11:23:48 am

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=188801

Another Obama puzzle: 3rd grade in 2 countries?
Photo at Hawaii school doesn't line up with State Department info, registration

Posted: August 07, 2010
10:35 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

The release of two sets of State Department documents through a Freedom of Information Act request has given new life to the puzzle of how Barack Obama could have attended third grade in Hawaii, as claimed by a classmate, while he has stated he was living in Indonesia at the time.

The indication Obama attended third grade in 1969 at Noelani Elementary School in Honolulu comes from an old photograph made public by classmate Scott Inoue. The informal photo shows Obama and Inoue against a background of what appears to be Christmas drawings by schoolchildren posted on a classroom bulletin board.

"The photo shows Barack Obama's arm around me in the third grade at Noelani in 1969," Inoue told WND. "My mother wrote that inscription on the bottom of the photograph at the time the picture was taken."

The inscription reads: "Scott & Barry 3rd grade 1969."

(http://www.wnd.com/images/100806obamainoue.JPG)
In Hawaii

(http://www.wnd.com/images/100806obamakindergarten.JPG)
In Indonesia--same time

WND asked Inoue how Obama could have been with him in Hawaii in the third grade, contrary to the accepted narrative placing Obama in Indonesia at the time.

"I don't have any explanation," he said.

Full story here:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=188801
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on August 08, 2010, 12:03:52 pm
'Hardball with Chris Matthews'  12/19/2007

Chris Matthews says Obama was born in Indonesia? That's what he said in December 2007 according to a transcript posted on the MSNBC website. So is he calling him self racists when he says all the birthers are that?


"But didn‘t Hillary dump on Obama a few days ago for playing up his Indonesian roots? So, what is she up to here? Is she pushing how great he is for having been born in Indonesia, or what, or simply reminding everybody about his background, his Islamic background? "


MATTHEWS:  So, is Hillary backer Bob Kerrey pretending to sell Obama, but clearly putting the shiv in? 

Here is Hillary Clinton defending him and Bob Kerrey: “I think the remarks were very positive.  I know Bob.  He was being very complimentary of Senator Obama.  He was making a point that Senator Obama makes himself all the time, that, because of his upbringing and his heritage, he is, in his view”—“in his view”—catch that line—“very well-suited to communicate with the rest of the world.  And he has just himself that he wants to have a particular outreach to the Islamic world.  So, I think Senator Kerrey was being, you know, very generous in what he said.”

But didn‘t Hillary dump on Obama a few days ago for playing up his Indonesian roots?  So, what is she up to here?  Is she pushing how great he is for having been born in Indonesia, or what, or simply reminding everybody about his background, his Islamic background? 

Remember a couple weeks ago, when White House spokeswoman Dana Perino, who speaks for the president of the United States, giddily explained that she didn‘t know anything about the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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Well, today, our Cuban expert at the White House reacted to Fidel Castro‘s suggestion that he might leave office—quote—“We‘re just continuing to work for democracy on the island, and we believe that that day will come soon.”

So, Dana Perino doesn‘t know the past, but she knows the future? 

And, finally, it‘s time for the HARDBALL “Big Number” tonight. 

Bill Clinton‘s latest angle to help Hillary sounds a bit obtuse.  CNN reports that Monday, in South Carolina, Bill said that—quote—“The first thing Hillary Clinton plans to do as president of the United States is to send him, Bill, and former President George Herbert Walker Bush around the world to tell them that America‘s open for business and cooperation again.”

Really?  Does Bill think putting his arm around one Bush will help Hillary follow the other one in office?  Does it really make her the change candidate to join forces with the father of the guy who needs changing, as she sees it?  Doesn‘t this spotlight the Bush-Clinton/Bush-Clinton dynasty scenario that makes some people a little antsy? 

As Bill says, your answer depends on what you think the question is. 

Either way, we know what the HARDBALL “Big Number” is tonight: 41, as in Bush 41, who, according to Bill Clinton, would be a major player in Hillary Clinton‘s foreign policy lineup. 

Up next, we will get the story from Iowa, where Bill Clinton campaigned with Hillary today. 

You‘re watching HARDBALL on the campaign trail in Hanover, New Hampshire, only on MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22326842#fullstory


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/in-2007-on-msnbc-chris-old-school.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on August 08, 2010, 01:45:27 pm
Maybe what is being hid is that Soetoro is the illegitimate son of the Communist and drug dealer, Frank Davis, hence the reason they will not release the long form "birth certificate" with genealogical information.

There may be a lot more to this thing than meets the eye.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on August 08, 2010, 01:48:48 pm
It is quite possible his mother, however, intentionally had him taken off her passport in Indonesia so that he could be legally adopted by his step-father and become a citizen, so that he could attend school in that country.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on August 09, 2010, 10:56:20 am
Attorney Phil Berg Files a Petition for Rehearing Court EN BANC in the Case of Berg as Relator vs. Obama.
 
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/phil-berg-files-petition-for-rehearing.html


No birth certificate among passport documents - Conspicuously missing from file stating Obama born in Hawaii - By Jerome R. Corsi - WND



Passport documents for Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro recently released by the State Department did not include any birth-certificate documentation for Barack Obama, despite a memorandum in the file claiming he was born in Honolulu.

The released documents indicate Dunham's husband, Lolo Soetoro, petitioned the Immigration and Naturalization Service of the State Department in 1967 to obtain a waiver to return to the United States to rejoin his wife and her infant son, Barack Obama Jr.

A WND timeline drawn from the State Department's July 29 Freedom of Information Act release of passport documents indicates Lolo Soetoro returned to Indonesia July 20, 1966, after completing his studies at the University of Hawaii. Soetoro was required to complete a mandatory two-year residence requirement in Indonesia before he could be granted a visa to return to the U.S.

In an apparent attempt to establish the nationality of Barack Obama Jr., a person named Mix submitted a poorly typed and difficult-to-decipher memo to the file, dated Sept. 14, 1967, without identifying any official position he or she may have held with State Department at that time.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/army-silences-highly-decorated-war-hero.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on August 09, 2010, 11:01:16 am
And here--

No birth certificate among passport documents
Conspicuously missing from file stating Obama born in Hawaii

Posted: August 08, 2010
10:13 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

(http://www.wnd.com/images/100801anndunham.JPG)
S. Ann Dunham in Indonesia

Passport documents for Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro recently released by the State Department did not include any birth-certificate documentation for Barack Obama, despite a memorandum in the file claiming he was born in Honolulu.

Full story--
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=188769
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on August 11, 2010, 04:25:34 pm
Related---

Larry Sinclair On Wayne Madsen's Radio Show


Right click to download---

http://larrysinclair.com/Wayne_Madsen_Reports.mp3

Revelations about the Donald Young Murder, Secret Service harassment of Sinclair, and Court Case against Sinclair and others involved in the publication/writing/and distribution of Sinclair's book about Obama (Amazon.com and Jeff Rense are among those named in the lawsuit.)


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on August 12, 2010, 04:22:09 pm
Barack H. Obama - Born in Kenya IV - The Real Birth Certifiacte AT LAST!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI
 
Alex Jones - Phil Berg interview !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21-1cWqZG4g
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBEothvYfkY
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TgKU1LGyv8
 
 
Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

Michelle Obama speaking at the LGBT Delegate (The World as it Should Be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug

Grandmother says Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on August 13, 2010, 10:53:13 am
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito refers Taitz issue to entire court, also, Taitz files opening brief in 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/us-supreme-court-justice-samuel-alito.html


LTC Terry Lakin Physically Threatened by Army Prosecutor, LTC Lakin Supporters Asked To Help.

The Army doctor who is being court martialled for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, was formally arraigned last Friday at the first hearing in the Court Martial process. However, the lead prosecutor overstepped his bounds and injected himself improperly into LTC Terrence Lakin's chain of command

The afternoon before the hearing, LTC Steven Brodsky told LTC Lakin's counsel that Lakin must report hours before the hearing to his duty post at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in order for him to be "transported under escort" to make sure he showed up at the arraignment "to avoid embarrassing his unit." Brodsky rejected all pleas from Lakin's counsel that this was not merely highly unusual and that an enlisted man facing similar charges would not suffer such indignity, but that there was zero chance that Lakin would not attend a hearing when he had, quite literally "invited [his] own court martial." Brodsky told Lakin's counsel that an Army Colonel had been detailed to be Lakin's escort and that he, Brodsky, would not reconsider. However, Brodsky is a judge advocate, and as such his job is to prosecute LTC Lakin. He has no role -or at least should have no role-in deciding the manner in which Lakin relates to his commanders, and vice versa.

However, the following day, outside the courtroom, Brodsky went far beyond interference with Lakin's commanders. While Lakin was waiting near the courtroom, Brodsky and COL Melanie Craig (Lakin's "escort") stood around the corner in the main hallway and in voices easily audible to LTC Lakin, spoke about the need to prevent Lakin after the hearing from speaking to the media, "signing autographs or kissing babies". Brodsky then said to Craig "just taser him and throw him in the van."

Lakin says of the incident: "LTC Brodsky meant for me to hear those words, no question. When COL Craig returned to where I was, she said to me 'you probably heard all that, didn't you?' I replied it would have been hard not to. After the hearing, my lawyers asked COL Craig for permission for me to speak to the press, since both CNN and NBC had sent camera crews, but she rudely refused, and she ordered me back into her vehicle to be transported back to Walter Reed." Lakin concluded his remarks today with: "DON'T TASE ME 'BRO'!"


Lakin is a Lt. Colonel with almost 18 years of unblemished service to the Army, with six tours of duty abroad, including tours in Bosnia and Afghanistan. He is a physician and has been awarded the Bronze Star for his service. He believes that his oath to support and defend the United States Constitution has compelled him to act as he has, because President Obama's eligibility under the Constitution to hold office has been seriously questioned, and the President has refused all requests to release documents claimed to exist which would prove his eligibility.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/action-alert-ltc-terry-lakin-physically.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on September 01, 2010, 08:34:57 am
Three-star General Files Sworn Affidavit Supporting Ltc Lakin's Case. Critical hearing in LTC Lakin's Court Martial will be 9/2/2010.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/three-star-general-files-sworn.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on September 01, 2010, 10:59:48 am
Yet--another name for Obama: Saebarkah or Soebarkah.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/updaterecap-obama-stepfather-lolo.html

.................
(This comment located at bottom of page)

Hi all,

Re. by CDR Kerchner (Ret) in his 31 Jul 2010 post in the Atty Apuzzo blog on the Dunham FOIA passport records release
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/07/some-of-stanley-ann-dunham-obama.html

and ...

Re. by Dr. Corsi in his 1 Aug 2010 WND.com article on the Dunham FOIA passport records release
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=186677

I noticed in the WND.com article by Dr. Corsi he has spelled the new name found for Barack Hussein Obama (BHO) as 'Saebarkah'. In my blog post I pointed out that it looked like 'Soebarkah' to me. I just looked at it again under a magnifying glass and it is clearly spelled to me as 'Soebarkah' with an 'o' and is definitely not an 'a' after the S.

If researchers are going to look for this new BHO name in Indonesian and other records, they will have to spell it right or at least both ways if there is some dispute as to the way it should be spelled in Indonesia. But on the second page of document numbered P1, the name with the strike out lines through it, that name looks clearly spelled to me as 'Soebarkah'.

An interesting observation to note is that the first three letters 'Soe' are also the first three letters of Lolo Soetoro's last name, i.e., 'Soe'.

Please check the file yourself and if you all agree it's an 'o' and not an 'a', please correct people on the net as to the correct spelling as observed in that passport records document.

We all know that the Soetoro name has been spelled many ways in Stanley Ann's and Barry's (aka Steve's) life. So beware of that too. She may have spelled Soebarkah different ways in other places.

Here is where the file can be found so you can view the name yourself. Print it out for easier study.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35161730/Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Obama-Soetoro-Passport-Application-File-Strunk-v-Dept-of-State-FOIA-Release-FINAL-7-29-10

Feel free to cut and paste this and pass it along to other sites.

CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.protectourliberty.org
http://puzo1.blogspot.com

***********
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/updaterecap-obama-stepfather-lolo.html

Latest update on 8/1 with Obama stepfather Lolo Soetoro's records and new analysis - Breaking News - 31 July 2010 - For Immediate Release - Some of Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama Soetoro's Passport Application Records Are Released due to Strunk FOIA Filing

Some Stanley Ann Dunham passport file documents are finally released after over a year and a half of Mr. Strunk requesting and then suing to get the information released in the Strunk vs Dept of State FOIA case. This information should have been been released long ago per his initial FOIA request. But as with everything with Mr. Obama and his early life, the cover up  is maintained as long as possible and then when the files are released things that should be there are missing. It required a federal lawsuit to even get them to release even these documents.

The passport services official says in the cover letter that the some earlier passport application records noted in subsequent filings could not be found. Any possible 1960/1961 passport application paper work information that has been postulated by researchers studying Obama's early life narrative is missing from this released information. The link to any earlier passport application filed in the early 60s would have been shown in the passport application filed in 1965. But conveniently, the 1965 passport application paper work for a known passport issued on July 19, 1965 is missing. How convenient that key pieces of information about Obama and his family's early life always turns up missing! This reminds me of the missing page in the Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama 1964 divorce file.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/TFSOPKHy40I/AAAAAAAABek/PfCLIL0pJVk/s320/Lolo-StanleyAnn-Barry-and-Maya-Soetoro.jpg)

..............

There is a document numbered P3 which is an application for amendment of her existing passport. This amendment request was apparently done in 1967 (per a handwritten clerk's name and date note on it since the date is not filled in below Stanley Ann's signature on the form). This handwritten annotated note and date was apparently done by a clerk seeing a marriage license in order to process the request to amend a passport issued on July 19, 1965. But the copy of that 1965 passport application is not provided in this FOIA request. The passport officials say it could not be found. Why? That 1965 passport was issued several months after she married Lolo Soetoro. She filed the amendment apparently in 1967 allegedly to have it reflect her married name due to her name change after marrying Lolo Soetoro at Molokai Hawaii on March 15, 1965 per page marked P3 of the released documents. Thus the conveniently missing application records for this 1965 passport implies to me that that there was something indicated in it that the powers to be did not want the public to see, i.e., that she had a passport prior to 1965 and the 1965 records indicated it was a Renewal application. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear. The carefully worded cover letter with the FOIA release implies to me that earlier years records have been purged by someone at sometime for some reason since they could not find a record that should be there based on records they did find. Was the 1965 passport issued done per a renewal request for a prior issued passport? As to the implication in the cover letter that early year data may have been cleaned out due to some records retention cut off date. I don't buy that. Since passport records are filed in files by name and not in boxes or files by year, this does not make sense. I was under the impression that passport records kept and filed by name were kept virtually forever. That wording sounded to me like bureaucratic obfuscation. It sounds to me like HI officials (or whoever controls them) are now instructing the U.S. Passport Office how to obfuscate and parse sentences in cover letters to allow them to not provide what one asks for and yet not be lying. In my opinion, there was probably a passport issued to Stanley Ann (whatever name she used to get it) prior to 1965. The 1965 passport application record pointed to that. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear.

Full article here--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/updaterecap-obama-stepfather-lolo.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on September 01, 2010, 04:12:00 pm
"Secret agent man,
 Secret agent man,
 They have given you a number,
 And they have taken 'way your name."
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on September 10, 2010, 06:10:30 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/09/mississippi-governor-haley-barbour-this.html

This is a no-brainer! Via USA Today and some; - Barbour: 'We know less' about Obama than other presidents -

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/TIknIihlfmI/AAAAAAAAB4o/kLrGTaUbmbU/s320/Haley_Barbour.jpg)

Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a potential Republican presidential candidate, says a lot of people don't know much about incumbent Barack Obama -- and maybe that's why so many think he's a Muslim and wonder whether he was born in the USA.

"I don't know why people think what they think," Barbour said today, according to our colleague Susan Page. "This is a president we know less about than any other president. But I have no idea." ...continued here;
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/09/barbour-we-know-less-about-obama-than-other-presidents/1

Irrefutable Proof that Barack Obama is Not Eligible to be President of the United States, the Facts Don't Lie! - See the facts here;
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/irrefutable-proof-that-barack-obama-is.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on September 10, 2010, 06:27:36 pm
Protean/Protean2,

What happened?  Where did you go that you had to come back?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on September 14, 2010, 06:28:56 pm
GSA refutes State Department’s claim about destruction of records

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/09/12/gsa-refutes-state-departments-claim-about-destruction-of-records/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on September 20, 2010, 12:07:40 pm
Protean/Protean2,

What happened?  Where did you go that you had to come back?

Will PM you--a Prison Planet Forum internet app snafu.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on September 20, 2010, 12:10:25 pm
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/feedback/17-09-2010/114965-obama_birth_certificate-0/

Pravda does Soetoro---

No evidence of Hawaiian birth for AKA Obama. What about Kenya?

Obama's 'Certification of Live Birth' form reveals his Birth Registration was FILED in 1961 but was never fully ACCEPTED by the Hawaiian State Registrar's Office.

(http://english.pravda.ru/images/article/6/5/5/41655.jpeg)

Hawaii is covering this up for political reasons to protect Obama. Only they know the ultimate reasons they are all willing to commit Misprision of Felony at this point in time given the mounting evidence that Obama was not physically born in Hawaii. Obama may have amended his record since 1961 to try to reinforce and cover up the original fraudulent filing. But his online COLB clearly shows that when it was FILED it was never finally ACCEPTED. This is a national disgrace that our entire system of laws including the Constitution and all legal records are being subverted and subordinated to cover up for Obama's continued fraud on the nation as to his true legal identity. What is so important about this one man that Hawaii is willing to see the nation destroyed by his corruption and lies from birth by his family and continued on all his life by Obama. The man is a grifter and conman. See this catalog of evidence that shows by the preponderance of the evidence that Hawaii and the nation are the victims of birth registration fraud by Obama's family in 1961: http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/05/catalog-of-evidence-concerned-americans.html


4. NO EVIDENCE OF A HAWAIIAN BIRTH FOR AKA OBAMA - WHAT ABOUT KENYA?

As for AKA Obama's birth in Kenya we hear this from attorney Mario Apuzzo "We have not heard from one international, federal, state, or local police or security agency that Obama's birth place has been officially confirmed.

An Investigator working for Philip Berg, Esq. learned the following which is contained in the investigator's affidavit dated October 30, 2008, that was filed with a Federal District Court in the case of Berg v. Obama, O8-cv-04083: Obama's step-grandmother, Sarah Obama, told Bishop McRae, who was in the United States, during a telephonic interview on October 12, 2008, while she was in her home located in Alego-Kogello, Kenya, that was full of security police and people and family who were celebrating then-Senator Obama's success story, that she witnessed Obama's birth in Kenya, not the United States (the English and Swahili conversation is recorded and available for listening).

Full article--

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/feedback/17-09-2010/114965-obama_birth_certificate-0/

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on September 20, 2010, 04:54:49 pm
Here's the thing for me, as a purely cut-and-dry legal propostion, IMO, the only document Obama (Soetoro) has submitted for public perusal is an UNSIGNED, HENCE INVALID "CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH".  If this was the same document used to vette him, and if this was the same document used to certify his eligibility for office then the people that did that commited FRAUD, pure and simple.

Where (and when) he was born (and to whom) is almost inconsequential, and LEGALLY IRRELEVANT TO THE CASE OF PROVING FRAUD.  I'm not saying these are not legitimate areas to be studied -- I believe they are.

However, the military court maritial against LTC Lakin has become a de facto coup d'etat against the government of the United States, with a JAG judge declaring that henceforth all officers and soldiers that question the legitimacy of the commander-in-chief's orders based on his refusal to provide authentic proof of his birth in the United States will be guilty of insubordination or worse.

So, the urgency of this situation cannot be more grave.

There has been a coup d'etat within the United States and there is legal proof of it.

Basically, you don't even have to be a "birther" per se, to believe that a FRAUD has taken place on an historical scale, and that our entire system of government has been subverted.

Personally, I see this as evidence that this man's rise to power was no coincidence.  I think it has been planned for a long time that this individual would be used, would have a special part to play, in an international scheme to overthrow the U.S government for some even bigger reason.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on September 20, 2010, 05:01:10 pm
Here's the thing for me, as a purely cut-and-dry legal propostion, IMO, the only document Obama (Soetoro) has submitted for public perusal is an UNSIGNED, HENCE INVALID "CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH".  If this was the same document used to vette him, and if this was the same document used to certify his eligibility for office then the people that did that commited FRAUD, pure and simple.

Where (and when) he was born (and to whom) is almost inconsequential, and LEGALLY IRRELEVANT TO THE CASE OF PROVING FRAUD.  I'm not saying these are not legitimate areas to be studied -- I believe they are.

However, the military court maritial against LTC Lakin has become a de facto coup d'etat against the government of the United States, with a JAG judge declaring that henceforth all officers and soldiers that question the legitimacy of the commander-in-chief's orders based on his refusal to provide authentic proof of his birth in the United States will be guilty of insubordination or worse.

So, the urgency of this situation cannot be more grave.

There has been a coup d'etat within the United States and there is legal proof of it.

Basically, you don't even have to be a "birther" per se, to believe that a FRAUD has taken place on an historical scale, and that our entire system of government has been subverted.

Personally, I see this as evidence that this man's rise to power was no coincidence.  I think it has been planned for a long time that this individual would be used, would have a special part to play, in an international scheme to overthrow the U.S government for some even bigger reason.



Yep, that's pretty much it. The bigger reason is to have the US fall in line with the NWO requirements of membership. Just like Communism had to fall as well. With the NWO world government, there is to be no one type government that is extreme, so total freedom and total dictatorships have to go and there be a meeting in the middle. The whole socialist thing.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on September 21, 2010, 07:01:25 pm
Hawaii Democratic Party Did Not Certify Obama’s Eligibility
Posted on September 20, 2010 by Eowyn
 
In the United States, to become a party’s (e.g., the Democratic Party) presidential candidate, one must go through the following:

Step 1: Receive the votes of the majority of party delegates from the 50 states.
Step 2: The delegates’ votes are tallied and certified at the party’s national convention.
Step 3: Each state’s party must certify that the candidate is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States of America.
Step 4: After the parties of all 50 states produced their Certificates of Nomination, the Chair of the National Party Convention also signs off certifying that the nominee indeed is constitutionally eligible.
Needless to say, fraud can be committed at each step of the process.

In the last couple of days, the blogosphere is abuzz with the claim that in 2008, the Democratic Party of Hawaii — Obama’s putative birth state – had refused to certify that he was constitutionally eligible for the presidency. As an example, on September 15, the website Obama Release Your Records said outright that “The State Democratic Party of Hawaii would not certify in 2008 that Obama was constitutionally and legally eligible for the Office of President,” citing a Butterdezillion blog post of September 10, which says:

“…somebody claiming to represent the DNC stated on a discussion board that the DNC relies on the state parties to verify Constitutional eligibility for candidates, so the oath by Pelosi and Germond would just confirm that the state democratic parties had confirmed the Constitutional eligibility of the candidates. But this is where the argument totally falls apart, because the Hawaii Democratic Party actually ignored their protocols in 2008 in order to specifically NOT certify Obama’s eligibility as they had done for candidates in the past. IOW, if Pelosi based her decision to certify on whether the state party would confirm eligibility, then she had a duty to NOT certify Obama’s eligibility, because the democratic party of the state supposedly holding Obama’s birth certificate REFUSED TO CERTIFY Obama’s eligibility.”

I looked into these claims, specifically the primary source documents of Hawaii Democratic Party Certifications of Nomination for Presidential Candidates in 2000, 2004, and 2008. This is what I found.

In 2000 and 2004, the Democratic Party of Hawaii’s official Certifications of Nomination for Al Gore and Joe Lieberman (2000) and John Kerry and John Edwards (2004) both had the following identical language:

This is to certify that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution and are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and the national Democratic Parties by balloting at the Presidential Preference Poll and Caucus held _____ in the State of Hawaii and by acclamation at the National Democratic Convention held ______ in _______.

In 2008, the Democratic Party of Hawaii’s official Certification of Nomination for Barack Obama and Joe Biden carried this language:

This is to certify that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the national Democratic Parties balloting at the Presidential Preferences Poll and Caucus held on February 19, 2008 in the State of Hawaii and by acclamation at the National Democratic Convention held August 27, 2008 in Denver, Colorado.


What the Democratic Party of Hawaii’s 2008 Certification of Nomination left out are these words:

“of the United States Constitution and are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and”

In other words, by omitting the above words, the Democratic Party of Hawaii (DPH) was signalling the following:

DPH is merely certifying that Obama is legally qualified to serve as President by virtue of the ballots of the Democratic Parties of the 50 states. The DPH is not certifying that Obama is legally qualified to serve as President  under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution!
The DPH is also saying that Obama and Biden are NOT the chosen candidates of the state of Hawaii.

Why are we finding out about this only now, 20 months into the Obama presidency? More importantly, what can be done about this?

 According to the Cyclopedia of Law and Procedure, vol. 15 (NY: American Law Book Company, 1905), pp. 338-339:

When the authority to make a nomination is legally challenged by objections filed to the certificate of nomination, and violation or disregard of the party rules is alleged, the court must hear the facts and determine the question.

Before we break out the party noisemakers, here’s some sobering information from p. 339 of the same Cyclopedia of Law and Procedure concerning who can object and the time period for making an objection:

One who is not a member of the party making nominations cannot object to the regularity of the proceedings resulting in the nomination.

It is usually provided by statute that objections to nomination papers shall be made within a designated time after such papers are filed, or within a certain number of days before election. And, after the time for filing objections has passed, in the absence of fraud a certificate of nomination to which no objections were filed and which is regular in form cannot be attacked. At all events such objection should be made before the election, for if not so made the legal authority of a convention will in the absence of fraud be conclusively presumed.

My conclusion:
By omitting certain words in its 2008 Certificate of Nomination — words that were included in its 2004 and 2000 Certificates of Nomination — the Democratic Party of Hawaii was signalling that (a) Obama was not constitutionally qualified to be President; and (b) his nomination does not have the State of Hawaii’s approval and consent.

We conservative bloggers and citizens can scream at the top of our lungs. But only a member or members of the Democratic Party can object to irregularities in the Democratic Party’s certifying of Obama. Happily, Cyclopedia of Law and Procedure also says on page 339 that filing an objection is simple:

“Service of a copy of the written objections to the certificate of nomination of a candidate whose nomination is attacked is sufficient notice.”

Is there a registered Democrat with a conscience out there? Hello? We only need one to step forth….

~Eowyn

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/hawaii-democratic-party-refused-to-certify-obamas-eligibility/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on September 21, 2010, 07:25:43 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that 2008 version says he met the "party" requirements(while leaving out mention of the Constitution), but the argument isn't with the way the party operates, it's about what the Constitution requires to be President. So I don't see why the argument is directed at the Democratic Party.

According to the party, they have no beef with Obama. He apparently met the "party" requirements. The beef is with the candidate who seems to have run for office by committing fraud on federal election paperwork. Then it can be addressed why it is that the party put forth a presidential candidate that wasn't eligible.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on September 21, 2010, 07:45:34 pm
He met the "party requirements" because they were changed especially for him, and were no longer in accord with constitutional requirements.  

As for the idea that only a Democrat could challenge his legitimacy, I don't know if I agree with that part of this at all.

I merely found it interesting -- the way they changed their own wording to get around the fact that they hadn't actually certified his eligibility at all.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on September 24, 2010, 12:36:59 pm

Obama/Soetoro/Dunham Timeline---
By Don Fredrick

http://colony14.net/id41.html

"...timeline presents the important aspects of Barack Obama’s life, from birth to the present..."

(Interesting sequence of events, theories are also mentioned in this linear timeline, as well as the possibility of Canadian birth.)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on October 01, 2010, 08:49:44 pm
Barack H. Obama - Born in Kenya IV - The Real Birth Certifiacte AT LAST!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI
 
Alex Jones - Phil Berg interview !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21-1cWqZG4g
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBEothvYfkY
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TgKU1LGyv8
 
 
Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

Michelle Obama speaking at the LGBT Delegate (The World as it Should Be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug

Grandmother says Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on October 09, 2010, 02:24:07 pm
Here is a re-post of the 2 part article on Barry Soetoro's CIA background:

The Story of Obama: All in The Company
by Wayne Madsen
20 August 201

(http://www.voltairenet.org/local/cache-vignettes/L200xH300/obama-b200-657e5.jpg)

"Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has discovered CIA files that document the agency’s connections to institutions and individuals figuring prominently in the lives of Barack Obama and his mother, father, grandmother, and stepfather. The first part of his report highlights the connections between Barack Obama, Sr. and the CIA-sponsored operations in Kenya to counter rising Soviet and Chinese influence among student circles and, beyond, to create conditions obstructing the emergence of independent African leaders."

Part 1 -
http://www.voltairenet.org/article166741.html

Part 2 -
http://www.voltairenet.org/article166759.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on October 12, 2010, 06:18:54 pm
Judge grants request to file Amicus Curiae Brief claiming health care bill null and void due to Obama’s ineligibility

Mr. W. Spencer Connerat III, the author of the document which he deemed a “confession,” had originally sent it to the attorneys general of Florida and Virginia last March in the likely event that either or both of them decided to file a lawsuit over the impending passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA). Some have referred to the legislation as “Obamacare,” and its constitutionality has been debated since long before its passage.

Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli, on behalf of the Commonwealth of Virginia, filed suit against Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius directly after the legislation was passed by Congress on March 23, 2010. A group of more than 20 states filed a similar lawsuit led by Attorney General Bill McCollum of Florida.

Regarding Obama’s constitutional qualifications for office, Cuccinelli has acceded to the possibility that Obama might have been born in a foreign country, but has also said that he “believes” that Obama was born in the United States.

Just today, Sebelius announced that “the government is giving $727 million to 143 community health centers across the country.”

On July 2, 2010, Judge Henry Hudson denied the federal government’s request to dismiss the Commonwealth of Virginia’s lawsuit over the PPACA, ruling that the Commonwealth had “standing” to sue because of its passage of a law protecting its citizens from being forced to purchase a government-mandated health care program.

On September 21, 2010, Judge Hudson granted Mr. Connerat’s motion to file an Amicus Curiae brief to be included in the Virginia lawsuit along with many others filed by interested parties, including Physician Hospitals of America, former U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese III, and the American Civil Rights Union.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/10/08/judge-grants-request-to-file-amicus-curiae-brief-nullifying-health-care-bill-on-grounds-of-obamas-ineligibility/


Tennessee Congressional candidate Mr. H. James Headings was an eyewitness in the courtroom in Madisonville, TN, the seat of Monroe County, TN, for a hearing on Tuesday morning regarding the arrest of Walter Fitzpatrick on April 1, 2010.

After asking the Monroe County grand jury to act on a criminal complaint of treason against Barack Hussein Obama, Fitzpatrick attempted to execute a citizen’s arrest of Gary Pettway, the Monroe County grand jury foreman, for his alleged illegal occupation of that position for the past 20 years. On April 1, Fitzpatrick was charged with “intimidation” and “riot,” among other things.Darren Huff was arrested on April

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/10/08/prosecutor-insists-that-case-law-trumps-state-law/




Gingrich sounds off on Obama eligibility - Says prez has 'obligation' to determine why people don't believe his life story

Former House Speaker and potential GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich used an appearance on Spanish-language television to sound off on questions surrounding President Obama's birthplace and religious faith, declaring the president has an "obligation" to figure out why so many Americans doubts.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/newt-gingrich-on-obamas-eligibility.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: lord edward coke on October 14, 2010, 06:50:35 pm
Obummer, lame duck President or walking dead man?


A great article by the Texan Alfred Adask on his blog post for September 5th

    The video link below explains how a Military Judge has ruled to deny the right of an honorable military Officer to discover if Barack “Obummer” is in fact eligible to be President of the United States. The video is POWERFUL and illustrates the efforts that Obummer and/or the gov-co will go to protect the Kenyan in The White House Inc.

    The video is just one more illustration of the growing weight of evidence that Barack Obummer is a foreign national participating in one of the most extraordinary acts of treason the world has even seen.

    One way or another, the weight of evidence against Obummer will soon become undeniable and so politically powerful that the Kenyan may be far beyond being a “lame duck President” but may instead be a “walking dead man”. And the Democrat party could be mortally wounded if Obummer is publicly proven to be ineligible.

    I don’t expect any effort to impeach Obummer before this year’s November election. If Obummer were impeached now, the Democratic party’s losses this November might be unbearable. In fact, the Obummer ineligibility issue may be sufficiently devastating as to virtually destroy the Democrat party.

Click here or on Obummer's image above for the entire article...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB--XdoZ0ZI&feature=player_embedded







http://update.jeffotto.com/











Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on October 14, 2010, 07:04:29 pm
It would be nice to see the Republicans and Democrats be 3rd and 4th stringers to other parties this year.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on October 16, 2010, 04:47:16 am
Just read Goerge Washington's "Farewell Address", and you'll see exactly why we should have listened to 'ole George about the dangers of the party system.

It would be nice if political parties were illegal, and all political donations went into a election slush fund that all candidates can draw from equally, and political ads should be all but illegal, or at least neutral generic ads that all candidates get which point the voter to another location that states bio, positions, etc.

Each candidate must stand on their own and not side with groupthink of a party. To do that over what the people they represent want is an insult to the whole election process. "Voting along party lines..." is another way of saying, "We have rigged the whole process, and are going to do whatever we want". The problem isn't so much with the people in that system as it is the system itself that's the problem. It's the ideology of certain people that runs counter to what the design of this country is all about. Dare I say it is born of an anti-American attitude. At best, there is an attitude, a political'ology that does not want to run America the way the Declaration of Independence and Constitution says.

A congressman is not a Democrat, Republican, Independent etc., they are a rep for their state, so for example, that would make my state senator John McCain simply an Arizonan. His title should be "Sen. John McCain (AZ)". That's it. In part, we have state representatives that have become drunken of their own lusts from feeding at the trough of federal dollars, along party lines of course.

And who is responsible for this "party system"? You can thank Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, among others.

It would be wise for Americans to realize that not all of the "founding fathers" had the public's best interests at heart.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: lord edward coke on October 16, 2010, 01:47:50 pm
Just read Goerge Washington's "Farewell Address", and you'll see exactly why we should have listened to 'ole George about the dangers of the party system.

It would be nice if political parties were illegal, and all political donations went into a election slush fund that all candidates can draw from equally, and political ads should be all but illegal, or at least neutral generic ads that all candidates get which point the voter to another location that states bio, positions, etc.

Each candidate must stand on their own and not side with groupthink of a party. To do that over what the people they represent want is an insult to the whole election process. "Voting along party lines..." is another way of saying, "We have rigged the whole process, and are going to do whatever we want". The problem isn't so much with the people in that system as it is the system itself that's the problem. It's the ideology of certain people that runs counter to what the design of this country is all about. Dare I say it is born of an anti-American attitude. At best, there is an attitude, a political'ology that does not want to run America the way the Declaration of Independence and Constitution says.

A congressman is not a Democrat, Republican, Independent etc., they are a rep for their state, so for example, that would make my state senator John McCain simply an Arizonan. His title should be "Sen. John McCain (AZ)". That's it. In part, we have state representatives that have become drunken of their own lusts from feeding at the trough of federal dollars, along party lines of course.

And who is responsible for this "party system"? You can thank Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, among others.

It would be wise for Americans to realize that not all of the "founding fathers" had the public's best interests at heart.
Alexander hamilton ghost wrote his masonic friend's  (g. washington) farwell address.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on October 17, 2010, 04:39:24 am
Alexander hamilton ghost wrote his masonic friend's  (g. washington) farwell address.

Prove it. If true, that claim then makes Hamilton look even worse by him warning against something all the while being a supporter of what he warned against. And it also makes Washington look like a stoog.

His masonic friend? So your saying that Hamilton and Washington were best buds? What your suggesting is that Hamilton and Washington were actively doing things to deceive the public.

Why the heck would Hamilton warn against the party system as a ghost writer for Washington while at the same time be forming his own political party?

You might want to eleborate on your driveby comment.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on October 18, 2010, 03:48:58 am
Conservatives have long been waiting for impeachment to come to Capitol Hill. Soon, it will come to their mailboxes.

Constitutional conservatives around the country will soon receive a 17-page package from the National Campaign for an Impeachment Inquiry, an undertaking of The Conservative Caucus (TCC). The conservative watchdog organization bills the mailing a “national ballot of 5,000,000 registered voters” on “Whether Congress Should Launch An Impeachment Inquiry Into President Barack Hussein Obama’s Assault On Our Constitution.” It will include a survey and “Special Report” asking recipients to note whether they agree with each reason the report offers.

The left-wing Talking Points Memo announced the letter on its website today.

Founded in 1974, TCC is chaired by Howard Phillips. Phillips initiated impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton in 1994 – a full four years before Congressional Republicans got around to it. Now, he is turning his sights on Barack Obama.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/impeachment-is-in-mail-coming-to.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: lord edward coke on October 18, 2010, 09:31:00 pm
Prove it. If true, that claim then makes Hamilton look even worse by him warning against something all the while being a supporter of what he warned against. And it also makes Washington look like a stoog.

His masonic friend? So your saying that Hamilton and Washington were best buds? What your suggesting is that Hamilton and Washington were actively doing things to deceive the public.

Why the heck would Hamilton warn against the party system as a ghost writer for Washington while at the same time be forming his own political party?

You might want to eleborate on your driveby comment.

http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/documents/farewell/intro.html
In the correspondence that passed between the President and Hamilton during ensuing months, the form that the address was to take was altered. Washington had suggested to Hamilton, that if he were to form it anew, it would of course "assume such a shape" as Hamilton was "disposed to give it," but always "predicated upon the Sentiments" which Washington had furnished.

It was here that Hamilton began a major draft. If followed his Abstract of Points closely. But as the result of correspondence between them, and the passing of the major draft back and forth, that draft became in process "considerably amended," and so was endorsed by Hamilton: "Original Draft. Copy considerably amended." It is therefore always referred to as Hamilton's major draft.

Now, after Hamilton had sent this major draft to Washington, he told him he was preparing another draft for incorporating, meaning thereby, that if Washington was determined to use his own first draft and wished to redress it by Hamilton's structure and additions, he could do so by availing himself of the draft for incorporating in which case Hamilton's major draft would be discarded. But Hamilton thought the major draft the better. Washington agreed with him, though he said it was too long. Washington began the preparation in his own hand of a manuscript for the printer. This is called Washington's final manuscript.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktzw4a9uYho&NR=1
In its preparation he availed himself of all the drafts that had come into his hands, but principally Madison's draft and Hamilton's major draft; and he made changes of his own in the process of revision to the very end before its publication. Throughout the preparation Washington's ideas or "sentiments," as he liked to call them, were preserved. Hamilton knew, as Madison had before him, that whatever he might do in reshaping, rewriting, or forming anew a draft, the results should be "predicated upon the Sentiments" which Washington had indicated. This central fact was adhered to. Hamilton was solicitous to be governed by it. He had recognized that Washington would be the final judge, and considered his own part in the undertaking as an affectionate act, without putting upon it the least suspicion of restraint. He was magnanimous to Washington, when he wrote: "Whichever you prefer, if there be any part you wish to transfer from one to another--any part to be changed--or if there be any material idea in your own draft which has happened to be omitted and which you wish introduced--in short if ther be anything further in the matter in which I can be of any [service], I will with great pleasure obey your commands." And it was precisely this freedom, as has been shown, that Washington pursued in preparing his own final manuscript for publication. In the last analysis, Washington was his own editor; and what he published to the world as a Farewell Address, was in its final form in content what he had chosen to make it by processes of adoption and adaptation. By this procedure every idea became his own without equivocation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on October 19, 2010, 04:19:54 am
Looking back, it appears I misunderstood just what you were saying, thus I asked for proof. Thank you for the info. I thought you were saying that the address was not Washington's "sentiments", that it was Hamilton's sentiments. What seems to have transpired was Hamilton helped out of duty, and not of agreement with Washington's sentiments.

So how does this tie in with the thread title? It goes to show that early on there were known dangers to the party system, and that very party system is what put Obama in office. It was his party's responsibility to make sure their preferred candidate was legally ready for office. It's now obvious that the party either did not vet him properly, or this is all on purpose by the party handlers. It's the Democratic Party that needs to be examined in how they handled Obama from the time he registered to run for office.

Another point is that if the lawyers of the time felt his birth place/certificate wasn't an issue, where are the lawyers that gave that advice? Surely party lawyers gave it a look, seeing he was running for senator and president. If they didn't look the legality over, then that means somebody was incompetent. What was the actual process to him applying to be a candidate for office? Where is the investigation into what paperwork was filed, what was legally required to be filed, what paperwork had to be original documents, etc., and who were the people handling the actual paperwork at the time and what was each person's party affiliation?

Washington warned of this very situation, whether Hamilton agreed with him or not.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on October 20, 2010, 03:26:20 am
CIA Threatening Pastor Manning Not to Release the Obama/Columbia Trial Transcripts; 5 Days to Shut Down Website or Face Legal Prosecution.

Back in May, Pastor Manning of Atlah Ministries teamed up with the American Grand Jury and conducted a 10th Amendment Trial against Obama, Columbia University and the Central Intelligence Agency. Pastor Manning was preparing to publicly release the transcripts from the Obama/Columbia Trial but now according to the Atlah Facebook page and website, Atlah Ministries was ordered by the CIA not to release any documents relating to the Trial. The cease and desist order also demands that they terminate the Atlah.org website within 5 days or face prosecution.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/cia-threatening-pastor-manning-to-not.html



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on October 20, 2010, 03:36:20 am
CIA Threatening Pastor Manning Not to Release the Obama/Columbia Trial Transcripts; 5 Days to Shut Down Website or Face Legal Prosecution.

Back in May, Pastor Manning of Atlah Ministries teamed up with the American Grand Jury and conducted a 10th Amendment Trial against Obama, Columbia University and the Central Intelligence Agency. Pastor Manning was preparing to publicly release the transcripts from the Obama/Columbia Trial but now according to the Atlah Facebook page and website, Atlah Ministries was ordered by the CIA not to release any documents relating to the Trial. The cease and desist order also demands that they terminate the Atlah.org website within 5 days or face prosecution.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/cia-threatening-pastor-manning-to-not.html





Well, of course.  It is illegal to make public what the CIA asset/agent/operative/patsy, Soetoro (a.k.a. Soetero, a.k.a. Barack Husein Obama, a.k.a. Barry, a.k.a. Steve Dunham, a.k.a. Dirk Diggler et. al.) was doing during the years when he was in the employ of known CIA front company, BIC (Business International Corporation -- not the famous maker of "BIC" pens) and the years when he was supposedly studying at Columbia ( ::)), but he was really jetting off to Pakistan (who says they won't hire people that wouldn't pass background checks!) in order to maintain the company's known realtions with assorted known terrorist groups there.

After that whole "yellowcake" thing, the CIA has evidently gotten serious about protecting the identity of its assets/operatives/agents/patsies.

Bravo.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on October 21, 2010, 10:26:30 pm
Confirmed: Hawaii Department of Health Can Issue a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth AKA Long-Form Birth Certificate.

How will the slobbering obots spin their way out of this one? A person at Free Republic posted a copy of her Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth that she obtained from the HDoH in September of 2010, including her purchase receipt. The obots have spent the last two years spreading disinformation saying that Hawaii no longer issues the 'Certificate of Live Birth' and instead only issues the short-form 'Certification of Live Birth' and that is the reason why Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah AKA Barry Soetoro can't release one.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/confirmed-hawaii-department-of-health.html


Here is the Official C.I.A./Columbia/Obama Sedition and Treason Trial Transcript from May 14-18, 2010.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/here-is-official-cia-columbia-obama.html




Democrat Phil Berg: Obama Birth Certificate / Eligibility / ObamaCare Rally in Washington, DC this Saturday; Complete Details Here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUN8xadBVkI






Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on October 23, 2010, 10:44:03 pm
A rally today at the U.S. Capitol pulled no punches in declaring President Barack Obama an "imposter" and "fraud" who should resign before a constitutional crisis of his own making rips apart the nation.

The rally was called by Philip Berg, a Pennsylvania attorney who runs the ObamaCrimes.com website and was the first to sue over allegations Obama is constitutionally ineligible to occupy the Oval Office.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=219109


Eligibility Attorney Gary Kreep Interview: Obama's Eligibility; Certification of Live Birth & Birth Announcements Vs. The Research

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/eligibility-attorney-gary-kreep.html


Lakin’s New Lawyer: Military Judge Was Right

Puckett confirmed that the judge in the case, Denise Lind, “rendered the proper legal ruling” regarding access to Obama’s birth and eligibility evidence.

“She was right on the facts and right on the law,” he told WND. He hinted about his plan of defense.

“All those issues concerning the president’s eligibility to hold office are completely irrelevant as to whether Lt. Col. Lakin was issued lawful orders and whether he obeyed them,” he said.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=13254


State GOP puts “birther” in charge of “ballot integrity”

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=13267
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on October 26, 2010, 09:24:06 pm

Phil Berg's---Anti-Obama Rally, US Capitol   ;)

http://tarpley.net/2010/10/22/address-to-anti-obama-rally/

Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
TARPLEY.net
October 23, 2010

I have been actively opposing Obama since the first days of January 2008. I saw that Obama, like Jimmy Carter before him, was a puppet of Wall Street, and specifically of the Trilateral Commission. I posted essays denouncing Obama on the Internet. My book Obama the Postmodern Coup was published before the 2008 Pennsylvania primary. My second book, Barack H. Obama the Unauthorized Biography, was published in August 2008, three months before the election. That same month, I was with Phil Berg at the Supreme Court when he filed papers for the first legal action attempting to expose Obama’s lack of qualification for the presidency.

There are many valid reasons for opposing Obama. Mine may be different from those of some of you. It is important to attack Obama for what he does, not for what he says. Obama operates through duplicity, deception, and deceit. The things he says are often lies to neutralize his base in the Democratic Party. Obama ran as a peace candidate, at least regarding Iraq. In reality, Obama is a warmonger – a bigger and more clever warmonger than any neocon. During his presidency, he has almost always had more combat troops in the field than Bush and Cheney ever did. The Iraq war goes on. The Afghan war grows more and more tragic. Obama has started a third war, a whole new war with Pakistan, a large nation with many times the population of Iraq, and which really does have nuclear weapons. Obama could order an attack on Iran at any time. There are now US military operations in Yemen, Somalia, and virtually all of the countries surrounding Iran. Obama has destroyed the peace movement that once protested these things.

Far from being a friend of organized labor, Obama is a union buster. He has extorted billions of dollars from the pension funds of the United Auto Workers which have been transferred to Wall Street in exchange for dubious Chrysler and GM stock certificates. The UAW has had to accept wages and benefits at the same level as open shops in the so-called right to work states of the South, where there is no union. Most dramatically, Obama’s Race to the Top Program aims at destroying the most important public sector unions, the American Federation of Teachers and the National Education Association. As usual, this is done under left cover, in this case under the slogan of reform. Teachers are being vilified, fired, denied tenure, and subjected to merit pay, even as hundreds of public schools are shut down. Obama’s Secretary of Education, Arnie Duncan, has been leading the charge with the unlamented Michelle Rhee. Their goal is to destroy free, universal, compulsory, quality, education as we have known it since the Northwest Ordinance and the days of Horace Mann.

Under his deceptive left cover, Obama is more of a dictator than Bush ever was. He openly claims the right to assassinate American citizens if they are outside the country. Under Obama, renditions (kidnappings), black sites, torture, and the Guantánamo concentration camp are still going strong.

Most of all, Obama has been a tool of the banks and financiers. Early in his term, Obama invited the leading zombie bankers to the White House and told them he was the only thing standing between them and the populist pitchforks of angry Americans. That is how Obama sees himself: the protector of Wall Street against mass protest. Obama has confirmed Helicopter Ben Bernanke at the Federal Reserve despite his colossal responsibility for the world derivatives panic of September 2008. Obama has given more power to the Federal Reserve, and fended off attempts to nationalize the Fed. Obama has supported, continued, and expanded the criminal Bush-Paulsen Wall Street bailouts to the tune of $24 trillion. Obama first delayed financial regulation, and then protected derivatives, foreclosures, adjustable rate mortgages, payday loans, car title loans, too big to fail, and all the other practices that should have been outlawed with bright line prohibitions. Right now there is a big demand in the Democratic Party to stop foreclosures — fraudclosures. But even on the verge of electoral defeat, Obama puts subservience to Wall Street first, and is actively sabotaging any attempt to protect the right of Americans to stay in their homes.

Obama’s health-care bill is clearly unconstitutional. Obama’s goal was to bail out the insolvent insurance companies which had been bankrupted by speculation in derivatives. He cynically used the 40 million uninsured as a cover for this operation. We reject Obama’s individual mandate, an invention of the Republicans Senator Grassley and Mitt Romney. We refuse to be coerced into buying shoddy insurance, astronomically overpriced, from a deregulated, for profit, rapacious and predatory private insurance industry complete with masses of kited derivatives and executives with golden parachutes. The American people want Medicare for all, and Obama is here to sabotage that demand.

So Obama is a warmonger, a union buster, and a Wall Street puppet. If you’re a Democrat, you cannot support Obama. Franklin D. Roosevelt sponsored Social Security, which Obama is planning to destroy if he can during the lame-duck session in November and December of this year. John F. Kennedy championed the moonshot and the space program. Obama has already destroyed the US manned space program. Lyndon B. Johnson passed Medicare, which has saved millions of lives. Obama has looted $500 billion from Medicare as part of his bail out for bankrupt insurance companies.

Obama has attacked and betrayed every group that ever supported him, starting with blacks, Latinos. Obama must be dumped from the Democratic ticket for 2012.

Obama has refused to produce a birth certificate, and has fought all attempts to open the files. We must conclude by now that he is unable to show where he was born. This means that he can easily be blackmailed – blackmailed by intelligence agencies, or by cliques of rich bankers, or by cabals of generals, or by other forces. This situation is by itself an intolerable threat to national security. If the president can be blackmailed, then our country becomes a helpless plaything of dark forces and enemies at home and abroad. If Obama cannot prove his qualifications, he must leave the White House for the good of the country. Nor are birthplace and citizenship the only issues. The convictions of Rezko and Blagojevich suggest that Obama can be blackmailed for past corruption. Nor should we forget the explosive allegations about Obama’s personal life which we can read about in any supermarket checkout line.

The Constitution is not a delicatessen. You cannot pick the parts you like and ignore the rest. Leftists and progressives who opposed Bush and Cheney on valid constitutional grounds cannot now pretend that the natural born citizen clause is quaint, irrelevant, or taboo. Those who raised this issue are no longer a voice crying in the wilderness. According to published reports (such as the “Ulsterman” emails), Obama’s behavior has become increasingly erratic, indicating that he may be suffering a mental breakdown as his messianic charisma dissolves with defeat at the polls. Institutional forces are reportedly considering whether Obama should be removed from office under the provisions of the 25th amendment. It is now responsibility of all of us to work for a constructive solution to the present constitutional crisis. This must start by dumping Obama.

http://tarpley.net/2010/10/22/address-to-anti-obama-rally/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on October 27, 2010, 07:29:38 am
^ ^ ^ ^


Thanks PROTEAN ... that is a VERY well written piece from Tarpley.

He lays out the rising tide against Soetoro beautifully.

I can feel the anger ... and anguish ... even here on my street

which is ALL democrats who were once head-over-heels in love

with Barry and now realize that it was an unrequited love affair.

He f'ed them alright ... and he bitch-slapped them and then went

straight back to his crack whores on Wall Street and the Pentagon.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on October 27, 2010, 02:44:25 pm
Walt Fitzpatrick–Arrest Warrant Issued

A Monroe County Sheriff’s Department spokeswoman said Monday that retired Navy Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick III of Sweetwater was being sought. Special Circuit Judge Jon Blackwood also ordered Fitzpatrick held without bond until his Dec. 1 trial.

Fitzpatrick fails to appear for court date Steve Pidgeon of Washington has sent notice he wanted to withdraw from the case, but Judge Blackwood did not remove him as Tennessee law states a motion must be made for withdrawal, then granted by the judge.

Blackwood did grant a motion by attorney Randy Rogers to be removed from the case. Rogers, a Tennessee lawyer, had been working with Pidgeon as the law says an out of state attorney must have a local one to work with.

Circuit Court Clerk Marty Cook said Fitzpatrick was sent notice that he was supposed to be in court Friday, but he did not show by the 10 a.m. start time. Blackwood issued a capias for Fitzpatrick’s arrest and ordered him to be held on no bond when he is picked up. This means if and when Fitzpatrick is picked up, he will not be released from jail until after his trial, which is set to start Dec. 1.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=13383


Phil Berg's---Anti-Obama Rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTbUPs8b7bY




Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on October 29, 2010, 08:22:30 am
Walt Fitzpatrick In Custody

Fitzpatrick violated his bail when he failed to show up for a court hearing last week and has been on the lam, since an arrest warrant was issued in Monroe County TN. According to the Post & Email, he went to his house, police were waiting, they broke down the door, and after a “physical struggle,” took him in.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/10/27/fbi-investigation-open-fitzpatrick-arrested/

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on October 30, 2010, 02:20:48 pm

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/confirmed-hawaii-department-of-health_30.html

Confirmed: Hawaii Department of Health is Aiding and Abetting Obama & Gangs Forged Certification of Live Birth, Got Final Nail in the Coffin!?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/TMwo6PQ6TSI/AAAAAAAACGE/-KIVOMbB1gc/s1600/ObamaSweating-Ineligible-1.jpg)
Saturday, October 30, 2010

We already know that Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah AKA Barry Soetoro is not constitutionally eligible to be president, no matter where he was born. I also think it is very critical the fraud at all levels is exposed and dealt with. This includes the Obama COLB that was first posted online by the Daily KOS and then by Obama's FightTheSmears website, which both still have the forged COLB posted. Many in the Media claim, including the obots, that the short-form COLB is the only document obtainable by the Hawaii Department of Health, but, as proven here, that is not true and is a complete lie.

Full article--

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/confirmed-hawaii-department-of-health_30.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on November 03, 2010, 07:49:39 pm
New Mexico Congressional Candidate Steve Pearce Would Support Obama Eligibility Probe, wins election

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/video-new-mexico-congressional.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/state/#val=NM



 jailing of Walter Fitzpatrick last week in the East Tennessee Gulag of Madisonville.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=13652



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on November 05, 2010, 05:09:03 pm
Revealed: Members of Congress Internal Memo Leaked; What to Tell Your Constituents in Answer to Obama Eligibility Questions

Members of Congress Internal Memorandum -- What to Tell Your Constituents in Answer to Obama Eligibility Questions - Their Talking Points Internal Memo Revealed. This was the spin that the Members of Congress were given to keep the American electorate at bay and confused in the debate about Obama's eligibility issues all the while the Congress did nothing to investigate the matter in a congressional hearing like they did for similar concerns about John McCain.

We have obtained a copy of the talking points memorandum put out by a lawyer for the Congressional Research Service to the Members of Congress back in April 2009 as to what to tell their constituents when they write to the Members of Congress and ask questions about Obama's eligibility. Now we know why all the answers coming back to constituents sounded like they were written by the same person and were full of the same obfuscations and half truths and non-truths. This copy was obtained via the diligent and persistent efforts of a patriot going by the pen name of "Tom Deacon" who obtained it from a Senator's office. Now we know the talking points the DC insiders and politicians have been groomed with to feed to their constituents who have been asking questions about the eligibility issues.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/breaking-members-of-congress-internal.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/41192270/CRS-Members-of-Congress-Internal-Memo-What-to-Tell-Your-Constituents-in-Answer-to-Obama-Eligibility-Questions
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on November 05, 2010, 05:44:22 pm
Both parties are complicit in the cover-up.  Hence we will likely see no impeachment hearings with the new House.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on November 10, 2010, 06:15:33 pm
New Research: 2003 United States Supreme Court Opinion; The SCOTUS affirmed Vatell's Law of Nations as a part of US Domestic law.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-research-2003-supreme-court-opinion.html



 Lt. Col. Terry Lakin's brother Dr. Greg Lakin and World Net Daily's Jerome Corsi appeared on the Peter Boyles radio show to discuss LTC Lakin's refusal to obey orders until Obama proves his constitutional eligibility to be President and Commander-in-Chief.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/youtube-lt-col-terry-lakins-brother-dr.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on November 11, 2010, 03:32:44 pm
Kerchner v Obama/Congress/Pelosi: Obama & Gang waive the right to respond to the Petition for Writ of Certiorari to the U.S. Supreme Court.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/kerchner-v-obamacongresspelosi-obama.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on November 12, 2010, 06:04:18 pm
 Texas man named Rudy Davis was handcuffed and ejected from the Majestic Theater during a Tea Party event with Governor Sarah Palin and Governor Rick Perry for handing out Lt. Col. Terry Lakin flyers. In the video  Mr. Davis explains what took place at the event, and then about 9 minutes into the video Mr. Davis is shown handcuffed with several Dallas police officers around him and what appears to be a newspaper reporter asking the police their badge numbers and why he is being arrested.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/video-texas-man-handcuffed-and-ejected.html


How Congress was prepped to dismiss 'birther' movement; "It was never meant to be released to the public," Got Leaks!?


The Congressional Research Service issued a memo to prepare members of Congress to rebut and defuse questions constituents were asking regarding Barack Obama's presidential eligibility under the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution.

CRS staff member Jerry W. Mansfield, an information research specialist in the Knowledge Services Group, confirmed to WND that he authored the June 5, 2009, CRS memo entitled "Qualifications of Barack Obama to Be President of the United States."

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/busted-again-how-congress-was-prepped.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on November 13, 2010, 05:01:34 am
People need to look into the "Congressional Research Service". It's not what they project it to be. It's a fullblown policy making "agency" that dictates what Congress does, and as I understand it, it's another one of those pseudo-government "agencies" not really any different than the Federal Reserve.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on November 19, 2010, 10:14:12 pm
Fitzpatrick: Authorities are covering up Jim Miller’s death

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/17/fitzpatrick-authorities-are-covering-up-jim-millers-death/

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/19/fitzpatrick-someone-has-been-arrested-for-the-murder-of-jim-miller-and-it-hasnt-been-reported/


Hawaii Elections Office releases Nomination Certificates requested Four Months Ago DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF HAWAII REMOVED REQUIRED ELIGIBILITY WORDING USED IN 2004 AND 2000

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/19/hawaii-elections-office-releases-nomination-certificates-requested-four-months-ago/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on November 25, 2010, 02:28:43 am
Fitzpatrick to Judge J. Reed Dixon: You Threatened my Public Defenders

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/23/fitzpatrick-to-judge-j-reed-dixon-you-threatened-my-public-defenders/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on November 26, 2010, 03:37:31 pm
BORN IN THE USA?

U.S. Supreme Court confers on Obama eligibility
Is president a 'natural-born citizen' as Constitution requires?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: November 23, 2010
9:45 pm Eastern


By Brian Fitzpatrick
© 2010 WorldNetDaily



WASHINGTON – Is this the case that will break the presidential eligibility question wide open?

The Supreme Court conferred today on whether arguments should be heard on the merits of Kerchner v. Obama, a case challenging whether President Barack Obama is qualified to serve as president because he may not be a "natural-born citizen" as required by Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

Unlike other eligibility cases that have reached the Supreme Court, Kerchner vs. Obama focuses on the "Vattel theory," which argues that the writers of the Constitution believed the term "natural-born citizen" to mean a person born in the United States to parents who were both American citizens.

continued:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=232073
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on November 29, 2010, 11:37:26 am
Supreme Court Denies Kerchner v. Obama/Congress/Pelosi Petition for a Writ of Certiorari; Justices Continue Evading Obama's Eligibility to be President and Commander-in-Chief...The motion of Western Center for Journalism for leave to file a brief as amicus curiae is granted. The petition for a writ of certiorari is denied.

Check back later for any updates and or news regarding this expected but disgracful decision by the SCOTUS. Justice Thomas stuck by his words

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/supreme-court-denies-kerchner-v.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on November 30, 2010, 05:42:41 pm
Typical the NWO kritocracy defends the NWO executive.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 02, 2010, 01:11:28 pm
Fitzpatrick Found Guilty On Two Charges

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=14510
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 06, 2010, 10:17:22 am
Hawaii Department of Health Releases Seal and it Does Not Match Obama's FactCheck Certification of Live Birth(s).

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/hawaii-department-of-health-releases.html


Attorney who worked on the McCain campaign in 2008 participated in the deletion of Wikipedia article on LTC Terry Lakin.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/exposed-attorney-who-worked-on-mccain.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 07, 2010, 05:47:12 pm
From: (http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger2/2954/566412308667094/269/z/937843/gse_multipart18543.jpg)
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/12/work-of-barack-hussein-obama.html

The work of Barack Hussein Obama
By agtG 302
Monday, December 6, 2010
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There is one thing I would demand an answer from in Barack Hussein Obama, and it is not about sex with Lawrence Sinclair, not about smearing Rod Blagojevich, not about ruining Terry Lakin, not about the Birther issue and not about how Bill Ayers did the edit on his books.
The thing I would demand answered is, WAS IT WORTH IT?

The definition of IT is was it worth it to have Donald Young, Larry Sinclair and others sucking on your erection, then in covering up your sodomy, was IT worth IT to have David Axelrod and David Plouffe throw John Edwards to the National Enquirer so they would stop covering your homosexual misbehavior putting your wife and kids in danger, and, was IT worth IT all the hell you put Elizabeth Edwards through in making her see her husband banned from the Denver Democratic Convention so he would not be a contender to Obama and was IT worth IT, breaking up the Edwards marriage, was IT worth IT what you did to the Edwards children in this, was IT worth IT what you did to Elizabeth Edwards as she battled cancer which is now about to remove her from this world and was IT worth IT the new barrage of stories about John Edwards playing the field in bars and was IT worth IT in for the past years staging court actions to keep John Edwards from challenging you in 2012?...

((full article here:
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/12/work-of-barack-hussein-obama.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Scarbo on December 07, 2010, 09:04:15 pm
Supreme Court Denies Kerchner v. Obama/Congress/Pelosi Petition for a Writ of Certiorari; Justices Continue Evading Obama's Eligibility to be President and Commander-in-Chief...The motion of Western Center for Journalism for leave to file a brief as amicus curiae is granted. The petition for a writ of certiorari is denied.

Check back later for any updates and or news regarding this expected but disgracful decision by the SCOTUS. Justice Thomas stuck by his words

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/supreme-court-denies-kerchner-v.html

Can the state Supreme Courts do anything?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Damascus on December 07, 2010, 09:31:41 pm
I think most everyone has left this party and are watching something else. See distractions do work, and they have oh, so many of them to throw at us. I still wish this would come out, but is seems this will drag on past the next election. Bush also got away with many things and still dose. Guess all we can do is keep fighting.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 08, 2010, 10:37:31 am
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/michael-savage-on-walmart-dhs-calls-we.html

Michael Savage---- "Hello, Homeland Security, we have a pResident who's birth certificate is unknown! Hello, Homeland Security, we have a pResident who has sealed his college records."...

Michael Savage----"Hello, Homeland Security, I would like to report a suspicious person in the White House, he hung around with known *terrorists and sat in a +church that espoused anti-American ideals for the twenty years."...

* Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, ---& possibly:**Osama bin Laden
+ Jeremiah Wright

**Obama (spoke some Farsi, had an Indonesian passport) recruited by CIA from Occidental College in the early 80's to run money to the Mujahideen in Pakistan and Afghanistan---what are the odds he rubbed shoulders with Osama who also worked for The Company with the Mujahideen in the same territory?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on December 08, 2010, 12:16:51 pm
Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino has Resigned or been Fired.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/somebody-please-blow-whistle-in-hawaii.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 08, 2010, 01:04:06 pm
Can the state Supreme Courts do anything?

Maybe, apply some pressure...but the fix is in at the top and the highest offices in the land.

This group works in the State courts--American Grand Jury
http://prosecuteobama.org/public/
http://americangrandjury.org/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 27, 2010, 04:59:52 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/26/barack-obama-birther-movement-hawaii

Barack Obama detractors, the birthers, face challenge from Hawaii governor
Neil Abercrombie to 'take care of' claim by conspiracy theorists that president is an alien interloper and not a US citizen


Ed Pilkington in New York
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 26 December 2010 17.15 GMT

Barack Obama's citizenship is a target for the birther movement.

Among the disparate groups of Barack Obama's detractors, the conspiracy theorists known as the 'birthers', who claim he is an alien interloper trying to destroy America from within, are among the most tenacious. Now the new governor of Hawaii has vowed to take them on and end the speculation.

Neil Abercrombie, who took over the governor's office in Honolulu this month, is pledging to burst the birther bubble. "I'm going to take care of that," he told the New York Times.

For Abercrombie, the dispute is personal. He was a friend of Obama's parents, Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama the elder who was studying at the University of Hawaii on an exchange from his native Kenya.

Though Abercrombie was not present at the birth of the younger Barack at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynaecological hospital on 4 August 1961, he did get to see the baby thereafter. He regards the ongoing background noise of doubts surrounding Obama's US citizenship as an insult to his late friends.

"[Obama's] a big boy; he can take sticks and stones. But there's no reason on earth to have the memory of his parents insulted by people whose motivation is solely political. Let's put this particular canard to rest," he said.

The governor is working with Hawaii's attorney general and health department to find ways of producing definitive evidence of Obama's Hawaiian birth. Full disclosure is restricted under the state's privacy laws.

Full article---
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/26/barack-obama-birther-movement-hawaii
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on December 27, 2010, 05:06:28 pm
He's going to prove that Stanley Ann Dunham (Soetoro's mother) did not have her son give up his citizenship to become and Indonesian national, so her could attend school there.

Abercrombie, I should be very impressed if you could prove that.

I'm looking forward to that, you old globalist stepp'nfetchit.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on December 27, 2010, 05:21:36 pm
Quote
The governor is working with Hawaii's attorney general and health department to find ways of producing definitive evidence of Obama's Hawaiian birth. Full disclosure is restricted under the state's privacy laws.

Great, now we got an openly admitted Obama personal friend as governor. Amazing how that happens. What are the odds of a close family friend happens to become governor at a crucial time(can you say re-election damage control?) in the very state that has a controversy about his friend being eligible?

Maybe they can start by reading the Constitution. He mst be confirmed as eligible to run for office, not just some party person's word they saw a document. The claim it's to protect him from identity theft is an insult at best.

So they now are saying which hospital? If so, employee records need checking for who was working and who did the deliveries, who are witnesses in a federal case actually. They have a moral if not legal obligation to come forward with their testamony.

Documents have been forged before, so I'd expect it, but the witnesses have to lie to make it all work. The big problem is that a few officials are blocking efforts in all directions to get the question openly answered. That's a red flag of itself. The snide comments about those who demand the open proof being "birthers" is just more red flags.

And it's not a political effort, it's a constitutional effort. As an alledged constitutional lawyer, Obama knows that.

What I suspect is that his citizenship may well be legit, but there is something illegal in his past in relating to his college days (possible falsified applications saying he was a foriegn student) and some yet unexplained activities in his youth in relation to international travel and a certain government intelligence agency.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: bigron on December 28, 2010, 11:49:20 am

 

Birther Battle Heats Up In Hawaii

Posted: 12-28-10 12:18 PM

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 A battle is brewing in Hawaii over a push from the "birther" movement aiming to obtain proof that President Obama was born in the Aloha State.

Governor Neil Abercrombie, a Democrat, spoke about the widely discredited eligibility matter in an interview with CNN on Monday. The network reports:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/28/birther-controversy-hawaii_n_801915.html



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on December 28, 2010, 01:52:31 pm
It turns the stomach to read the comments of that article at Huffington. I wonder how many of them are paid shills posting to cloud the discussion. Almost all of the comments there are in favor of Obama and mock "birthers". And who references Huffington Post all the time? FOX News among others. Go figure. ::)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: bigron on December 29, 2010, 08:17:20 am
Hawaii's Governor Weighs Ways to Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate

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AP  Dec. 27: President Obama, third from left, orders shave ice at Island Snow at Kailua Beach Center while on vacation with the first family in Kailua, Hawaii.

Published December 29, 2010
| Associated Press

HONOLULU -- Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie wants to find a way to release more information about President Obama's Hawaii birth and dispel conspiracy theories that he was born elsewhere.

Abercrombie was a friend of Obama's parents and knew him as a child, and is deeply troubled by the effort to cast doubt on the president's citizenship.

More
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/29/hawaiis-gov-wants-reveal-obamas-birth-info/


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on December 29, 2010, 08:50:19 am

Video and more pictures here:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=244797

 (http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=244797)
BORN IN THE USA?

Hawaii guv suddenly 'mum' on Obama birth 'certificate'

After blizzard of attacks on 'birthers,' Abercrombie now avoids interviews

Posted: December 28, 2010
10:52 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

EXCERPT:
Although Hawaii's newly elected Democrat governor, Neil Abercrombie, has recently given a flurry of high-profile media interviews condemning "birthers" who question Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, suddenly he is declining to answer a few hard questions.

Abercrombie, 72, a former member of the U.S. House, may be trying to quell the surge of doubt among Americans – polls show nearly six in 10 doubt Obama's own eligibility story – by promising he will try to release additional records on Obama from his state's Department of Health vault.

He has, in just recent days, expressed his disdain toward "birthers" in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, on CNN, as well as the local Star Advertiser and Hawaii News Now.

His startling remarks appear to be in response to the recent polling results as well as the rapidly growing list of high-profile personalities and leaders publicly raising questions about Obama's eligibility.

Even as stalwart an Obama supporter as MSNBC host Chris Matthews is now urging that Obama release his long-form hospital-generated birth certificate to assist Abercrombie's campaign against "birthers."

"I am not a birther. I am an enemy of the birthers," Matthews said. But, he added, "Why doesn't the president just say, 'Send me a copy right now?' Why doesn't Gibbs and Axelrod say, 'Let's just get this crappy story dead?' Why not do it? ... If it exists, why not put it out?"

Matthews was joined by Clarance Page of the Chicago Tribune and David Corn of Mother Jones, both of whom agreed with Matthews' call for Obama to publicly release the document, which to this point has remained tightly under wraps.

But Abercrombie won't talk with WND, which has reported more on the controversy than any other news source in the world.

See the movie Obama does not want you to see: Own the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential eligibility mystery!

"It [the Obama birth certificate controversy] is an insult to his [Obama's] mother and to his father; they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that," Abercrombie told the New York Times in a telephone interview Thursday. "It's an emotional insult. It is disrespectful to the president; it is disrespectful to the office."

But this week, in e-mails from his press secretary, Abercrombie refused to be interviewed by WND.

"The governor did an interview over a week ago in which this topic [Obama's eligibility to be president under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution] was raised," Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's press secretary, said in an e-mail to WND.

"He [Abercrombie] has been on vacation since Saturday and is unavailable. Hope this helps you understand. You are in no way being singled out as your e-mail suggests," she said.

But despite the denials, Dela Cruz did not respond when WND followed up with a request for an interview with Abercrombie at the governor's convenience after he returns from vacation.

It was just last week that Abercrombie himself injected new urgency into the ongoing controversy over Obama's birth certificate when the Star Advertiser reported the governor has been talking with the state attorney general's office and the director of the state Health Department to see how he can bypass Hawaii's privacy laws and release more information about whatever Obama records exist there.

Interestingly, the new governor's links to the controversy go way back.

Abercrombie claims to have seen baby Obama in Hawaii

Although he has acknowledged he was not present at the still-unidentified hospital in Honolulu to witness Obama's birth, Abercrombie long has claimed he socialized with Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham Obama when Barack Obama Jr. was yet a baby.

"Maybe I'm the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye and tell you, 'I was there when the baby was born,'" Abercrombie told the Chicago Tribune in an attempt to provide personal testimony to buttress the argument Obama was born in Hawaii as he has long claimed.

Abercrombie was a graduate teaching assistant in sociology at the University of Hawaii when Barack Obama Sr. arrived in 1959 from Kenya to enroll as the first African-born student in the university's history.

The problem with Abercrombie’s testimony is that Barack Obama Sr. and his wife, Ann Dunham, did not live together as man and wife with their baby son as Abercrombie claims to have witnessed.

WND has published transcripts from the University of Washington in Seattle that prove Ann Dunham was enrolled in extension classes there, across the Pacific, within three weeks of the baby's birth.

WND further has documented Ann Dunham's Seattle address in authoritative Seattle street directories from the period and interviewed Barack Obama Jr.'s babysitter in Seattle to further document the presence of Ann Dunham and her baby in Seattle, not Hawaii as Abercrombie has claimed.

WND also has reported that the address used in the two Hawaii newspapers in 1961 announcing the baby's birth was 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu, an address maintained by Ann Dunham's parents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham.

In August 1961, when Barack Obama Jr. was born, Barack Obama Sr. maintained a separated address on 11th Avenue, in Hawaii.

There is no documentary evidence that Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived at the same address together as man and wife.

Moreover, university transcripts from the University of Washington and the University of Hawaii demonstrate that Ann Dunham remained in Seattle, fully enrolled in university courses, until she returned to Hawaii in 1962 to re-enroll in the University of Hawaii after Barack Obama Sr. had left Hawaii to attend graduate school at Harvard in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Nobody invited to wedding of Obama's parents?

In actuality, it isn't clear Obama's parents were married, since official records never have been produced showing a legal ceremony took place. No wedding certificate or photograph of a ceremony for Dunham and Obama Sr. has ever been found or published.

In his book, "Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage," former Time magazine contributing editor Christopher Anderson elaborates: "There were certainly no witnesses (to the alleged civil marriage ceremony on Maui in 1961 between Obama's parents) – no family members were present, and none of their friends at the university had the slightest inkling that they were even engaged."

Anderson further quoted Abercrombie, a self-admitted friend of Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961, as saying that "nobody" was invited to the wedding ceremony.

Obama himself, on page 22 of his autobiography "Dreams from My Father," wrote of his parents' wedding: "In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore. There's no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it's not even clear that people back in Kansas were fully informed. Just a small civil ceremony, a justice of the peace. The whole thing seems so fragile in retrospect, so haphazard."

Bachelor father?

Contrary to Abercrombie's assertion that he spent social time with Barack Obama Sr., his wife, Ann Dunham, and their child, Barack Obama Jr., the documentary evidence strongly suggests that while Ann Dunham was in Seattle attending the University of Washington, Barack Obama Sr. lived the life of a bachelor in Honolulu.

WND has published a photo of Barack Obama Sr. at a University of Hawaii student party that he attended without his wife, Ann Dunham; the photo clearly shows his left hand absent a wedding ring.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/091028obamasr1.jpg)
Barack Obama Sr. at party with University of Hawaii students in the early 1960s

WND also reported on a letter Barack Obama Sr. wrote from Hawaii to his political benefactor in Kenya, Tom Mboya, in May 1962, discussing his wife, but he does so without mentioning Ann Dunham, his Hawaiian bride and the mother of the president, Barack Obama Jr.

Toward the end of the 1962 letter, Obama wrote, "You know my wife is in Nairobi there and I would really appreciate any help you may give her."

Clearly Barack Obama Sr. is referring to his first wife, Kezia Aoko, whom he had married in 1954 when he was eighteen years old while she was pregnant with their first child.
Title: LTC Lakin (Birther) Convicted – No Defense Allowed
Post by: One Revelator on December 29, 2010, 10:10:36 am
·   6 months in prison
·   Forfeiture of pay
·   Dismissal from the Service

LTC Lakin made an heroic effort at great risk to his stellar military/professional career- to learn the truth and to uphold his officer's oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution. In the end, the Army denied him due process, the traditional right of American citizens to evidence they need to defend themselves against criminal charges-- and disallowed any expert witnesses related to the eligibility crisis. LTC Lakin essentially was denied the opportunity to mount a defense of his actions.

LTC Lakin was accused of many false things by the Army during the course of the trial. . The lead prosecutor (CAPT Phil O'Beirne) told the sentencing panel that your job is not to help SafeGuardOurConstitution find Obama's birth certificate- and earlier . he suggested that soldiers not let the Constitution cloud what they do-- he quoted MacArthur's famous quotation, duty, honor, country, but . said the military's job was only to fight wars. The military, however, most fundamentally protects the American Government and the rule of law.

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/hearing-update-dec-16.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on December 29, 2010, 01:07:15 pm
Video and more pictures here:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=244797

 (http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=244797)
BORN IN THE USA?

Hawaii guv suddenly 'mum' on Obama birth 'certificate'

After blizzard of attacks on 'birthers,' Abercrombie now avoids interviews

Posted: December 28, 2010
10:52 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

EXCERPT:
Although Hawaii's newly elected Democrat governor, Neil Abercrombie, has recently given a flurry of high-profile media interviews condemning "birthers" who question Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, suddenly he is declining to answer a few hard questions.

Abercrombie, 72, a former member of the U.S. House, may be trying to quell the surge of doubt among Americans – polls show nearly six in 10 doubt Obama's own eligibility story – by promising he will try to release additional records on Obama from his state's Department of Health vault.

He has, in just recent days, expressed his disdain toward "birthers" in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, on CNN, as well as the local Star Advertiser and Hawaii News Now.

His startling remarks appear to be in response to the recent polling results as well as the rapidly growing list of high-profile personalities and leaders publicly raising questions about Obama's eligibility.

Even as stalwart an Obama supporter as MSNBC host Chris Matthews is now urging that Obama release his long-form hospital-generated birth certificate to assist Abercrombie's campaign against "birthers."

"I am not a birther. I am an enemy of the birthers," Matthews said. But, he added, "Why doesn't the president just say, 'Send me a copy right now?' Why doesn't Gibbs and Axelrod say, 'Let's just get this crappy story dead?' Why not do it? ... If it exists, why not put it out?"

Matthews was joined by Clarance Page of the Chicago Tribune and David Corn of Mother Jones, both of whom agreed with Matthews' call for Obama to publicly release the document, which to this point has remained tightly under wraps.

But Abercrombie won't talk with WND, which has reported more on the controversy than any other news source in the world.

See the movie Obama does not want you to see: Own the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential eligibility mystery!

"It [the Obama birth certificate controversy] is an insult to his [Obama's] mother and to his father; they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that," Abercrombie told the New York Times in a telephone interview Thursday. "It's an emotional insult. It is disrespectful to the president; it is disrespectful to the office."

But this week, in e-mails from his press secretary, Abercrombie refused to be interviewed by WND.

"The governor did an interview over a week ago in which this topic [Obama's eligibility to be president under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution] was raised," Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's press secretary, said in an e-mail to WND.

"He [Abercrombie] has been on vacation since Saturday and is unavailable. Hope this helps you understand. You are in no way being singled out as your e-mail suggests," she said.

But despite the denials, Dela Cruz did not respond when WND followed up with a request for an interview with Abercrombie at the governor's convenience after he returns from vacation.

It was just last week that Abercrombie himself injected new urgency into the ongoing controversy over Obama's birth certificate when the Star Advertiser reported the governor has been talking with the state attorney general's office and the director of the state Health Department to see how he can bypass Hawaii's privacy laws and release more information about whatever Obama records exist there.

Interestingly, the new governor's links to the controversy go way back.

Abercrombie claims to have seen baby Obama in Hawaii

Although he has acknowledged he was not present at the still-unidentified hospital in Honolulu to witness Obama's birth, Abercrombie long has claimed he socialized with Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham Obama when Barack Obama Jr. was yet a baby.

"Maybe I'm the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye and tell you, 'I was there when the baby was born,'" Abercrombie told the Chicago Tribune in an attempt to provide personal testimony to buttress the argument Obama was born in Hawaii as he has long claimed.

Abercrombie was a graduate teaching assistant in sociology at the University of Hawaii when Barack Obama Sr. arrived in 1959 from Kenya to enroll as the first African-born student in the university's history.

The problem with Abercrombie’s testimony is that Barack Obama Sr. and his wife, Ann Dunham, did not live together as man and wife with their baby son as Abercrombie claims to have witnessed.

WND has published transcripts from the University of Washington in Seattle that prove Ann Dunham was enrolled in extension classes there, across the Pacific, within three weeks of the baby's birth.

WND further has documented Ann Dunham's Seattle address in authoritative Seattle street directories from the period and interviewed Barack Obama Jr.'s babysitter in Seattle to further document the presence of Ann Dunham and her baby in Seattle, not Hawaii as Abercrombie has claimed.

WND also has reported that the address used in the two Hawaii newspapers in 1961 announcing the baby's birth was 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu, an address maintained by Ann Dunham's parents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham.

In August 1961, when Barack Obama Jr. was born, Barack Obama Sr. maintained a separated address on 11th Avenue, in Hawaii.

There is no documentary evidence that Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived at the same address together as man and wife.

Moreover, university transcripts from the University of Washington and the University of Hawaii demonstrate that Ann Dunham remained in Seattle, fully enrolled in university courses, until she returned to Hawaii in 1962 to re-enroll in the University of Hawaii after Barack Obama Sr. had left Hawaii to attend graduate school at Harvard in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Nobody invited to wedding of Obama's parents?

In actuality, it isn't clear Obama's parents were married, since official records never have been produced showing a legal ceremony took place. No wedding certificate or photograph of a ceremony for Dunham and Obama Sr. has ever been found or published.

In his book, "Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage," former Time magazine contributing editor Christopher Anderson elaborates: "There were certainly no witnesses (to the alleged civil marriage ceremony on Maui in 1961 between Obama's parents) – no family members were present, and none of their friends at the university had the slightest inkling that they were even engaged."

Anderson further quoted Abercrombie, a self-admitted friend of Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961, as saying that "nobody" was invited to the wedding ceremony.

Obama himself, on page 22 of his autobiography "Dreams from My Father," wrote of his parents' wedding: "In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore. There's no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it's not even clear that people back in Kansas were fully informed. Just a small civil ceremony, a justice of the peace. The whole thing seems so fragile in retrospect, so haphazard."

Bachelor father?

Contrary to Abercrombie's assertion that he spent social time with Barack Obama Sr., his wife, Ann Dunham, and their child, Barack Obama Jr., the documentary evidence strongly suggests that while Ann Dunham was in Seattle attending the University of Washington, Barack Obama Sr. lived the life of a bachelor in Honolulu.

WND has published a photo of Barack Obama Sr. at a University of Hawaii student party that he attended without his wife, Ann Dunham; the photo clearly shows his left hand absent a wedding ring.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/evinyl/PrisonPlanetForum/091028obamasr1.jpg)
Barack Obama Sr. at party with University of Hawaii students in the early 1960s

WND also reported on a letter Barack Obama Sr. wrote from Hawaii to his political benefactor in Kenya, Tom Mboya, in May 1962, discussing his wife, but he does so without mentioning Ann Dunham, his Hawaiian bride and the mother of the president, Barack Obama Jr.

Toward the end of the 1962 letter, Obama wrote, "You know my wife is in Nairobi there and I would really appreciate any help you may give her."

Clearly Barack Obama Sr. is referring to his first wife, Kezia Aoko, whom he had married in 1954 when he was eighteen years old while she was pregnant with their first child.


Uh, a hospital has been mentioned, twice at least, and one of them is in the article Protean posted above! Surely WND knew that? How could they not know a hospital has been mentioned?


Quote
at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynaecological hospital on 4 August 1961
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 29, 2010, 04:54:51 pm
(for Dig)
 ;D

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/msnbcs-chris-old-school-birther.html

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/TRol76gClzI/AAAAAAAACUs/ZgpbxpBYQlY/s320/Chris_Matthews.jpg)
MSNBC's Chris 'Old School Birther' Matthews joins Abercommie:
Why doesn't Obama just release the original long-form birth certificate, Got Liars!?

[update below] Videos embedded below. The media shills are a complete joke. They want everyone to think there is some law keeping Obama's purported vital recordS sealed at the Hawaii DoH. The fact of the matter is the only thing holding back the release of Obama's purported vital recordS is Obama himself. The Hawaii DoH already stated in the past that they can release his original records with Obama's permission. Don't fall for the lies being propagated by the shills in the media. They are working overtime to confuse the people on this subject.

Note to liar Clarence Page: the State Department website clearly states; "Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes."...

Don't forget that Chris 'Old School Birther' Matthews was the first Birther. In 2007, he stated on the air that Obama is a Muslim and was born in Indonesia. Transcript here and here.

MSNBC video embedded below. Matthews rant also here. CNN ran a piece on the Abercommie subject here.

Full story--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/msnbcs-chris-old-school-birther.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on December 29, 2010, 05:19:40 pm
Great picture of Matthews.

The MSM will be running with it when they throw Chris under the bus.

Another family feud bubbling among the sub-elite or just more marching orders for Matthews and Soetoro/Abercrombie?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on December 31, 2010, 05:55:50 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/TR2XME_uv9I/AAAAAAAACVQ/v1LuCXpiT9g/s320/obama-media-group.jpg)

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/jeff-kuhner-of-washington-times-top.html

Jeff Kuhner of Washington Times: Top Democrats & Top Senior Editors Concerned about Obama's Eligibility; Media Abdicating Their Responsibility.
Friday, December 31, 2010

Video: Jeff Kuhner of the Washington Times: People around the White House and in democratic circles including senior top editors afraid to pursue Obama's Eligibility and records concealment. Kuhner says the Media's abdicating their responsibility to pursue the truth and hold our politicians accountable. Kuhner goes on to say that All know there is something there, saying "where there's smoke, there's fire," and says the Controversy is gaining traction and momentum.  This is an excellent interview with Jeff Kuhner.

Via MrTimotheus85; Steve Malzberg Interviews Jeff Kuhner - If The Truth Got Out About Obama There Would Be A Civil War - Source. Video embedded here...

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/jeff-kuhner-of-washington-times-top.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on December 31, 2010, 06:01:01 pm
Oh, they're getting ready to oust the S.O.B. -- if not for this, for something else.

The "brilliant compromise" on the Bush tax cut extension will have been his last hurrah. 2011 will probably be bleak for Soetoro.

Get ready for the next puppet.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 03, 2011, 04:57:47 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/world-net-dailys-aaron-klein-discusses.html

World Net Daily's Aaron Klein discusses Obama's eligibility and Hawaii Guv Neil Abercrombie;
No hospital in Hawaii will certify Obama's birth.

Monday, January 3, 2011

Video: Journalist Aaron Klein of World Net Daily and Investigative Radio discusses Obama's constitutional eligibility and Hawaii Governor Neil AberCommie's recent statements on Obama's early childhood and eligibility. Aaron lays out many details regarding Birthgate and also reminds us that no hospital in Hawaii will certify Obama's birth. - 1/2/11 - Clip embedded below...

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/world-net-dailys-aaron-klein-discusses.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on January 03, 2011, 05:02:47 pm
Quote
that no hospital in Hawaii will certify Obama's birth.

That needs to be publically verified, because the latest articles about the new gov says the hospital, Kaipiolani.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 03, 2011, 05:25:22 pm
That needs to be publically verified, because the latest articles about the new gov says the hospital, Kaipiolani.

Here is one article:

Hospital won't back Obama birth claim


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=103294

Honolulu's Kapi'olani Medical Center refuses to confirm White House letter
Posted: July 06, 2009
9:26 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

The hospital in Hawaii where Barack Obama claims he was born refuses to produce any documentation – or even confirm the claim – without permission of the president himself.

The Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu has posted on its website a letter on White House stationery dated Jan. 24 in which Obama wrote, "As a beneficiary of the excellence of Kapi'olani Medical Center – the place of my birth – I am pleased to add my voice to your chorus of supporters."

(http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/obamahospitalletter.jpg)

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=103294

********
So--if Barry-O gives the go ahead, the claim is: the Kapi'olani Medical Center will produce the documentation.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on January 03, 2011, 05:32:24 pm
See, that's the big problem they got to explain, the refusal to confirm his birth, when the Constitution demands it. Politicians are the exception to the privacy rules in many respects because they are what? PUBLIC SERVANTS. The people can make sure their privacy is protected so nobody steals their identity. So once that is satisfied, there in no excuse for withholding positive verification of the facts claimed. But they know as soon as the hospital is admitted to, that means there's a ton of witnesses that come into play, people I'm sure the government doesn't want the public to talk to.

I think Obama has more than citizenship issues. I think there is some scandal in his education background as well.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 03, 2011, 05:39:50 pm
Like him never being on Columbia campus?  Like his working for the CIA at the time?

Business International Corporation
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 03, 2011, 10:15:45 pm
I think Obama has more than citizenship issues. I think there is some scandal in his education background as well.

Foreign student loans are one possibility. Regardless if he was born in the US, that time in Indonesia is the key to much of his records controversy. If he became an Indonesian and had access to an Indonesian passport it was his ticket to foreign student college funding.
Barry-O's passport records were scrubbed--then the guy who did the scrubbing was shot dead.

Some interesting info here:
http://www.spingola.com/Barack_Obama_CIA.htm

Barack Obama, Former CIA Agent
By Deanna Spingola
Edited by Ken Freeland
March 13, 2010

I recently had the great pleasure of talking with Dr. James David Manning who has been ministering to the people of Harlem since 1981. He is now the Senior Pastor at ATLAH which stands for All the Land Anointed Holy, Manning’s inspired name for Harlem as of September 14, 1991.

Dr. Manning heads the Columbia Obama Treason Trial which is scheduled for May 14-19, 2010 at the ATLAH building at 38 West 123rd Street in ATLAH, New York, 10027. Unfortunately, the Department of Justice and the Supreme Court have failed in their duties to uphold the Constitution and address the legitimacy and other questionable issues surrounding the White House’s current resident. So, Dr. Manning, being a longtime resident of the Columbia University area, the school that Obama allegedly attended, began an intense investigation into Obama’s educational background and discovered some profound discrepancies.

According to Dr. Manning, Obama (born in 1961) enrolled at the very pricey Occidental College in Los Angeles, California in 1979 and was apparently recruited there in 1980 by the CIA which has made it a practice since its inception to recruit college students. He was, by his own admission, a “C” student, a dope smoker and a member of the Marxist Club at Occidental, a co-educational liberal arts college. In 1981, Obama allegedly transferred from Occidental to Columbia University to major in Political Science with a specialization in international relations. It is atypical for a student to begin their education in one four-year school and then transfer to another school. Columbia University requires that incoming students pass certain academic requirements which Obama apparently lacked. However, Columbia had a foreign student program and the CIA has major connections and influence with Columbia and the nation’s other educational facilities. Interestingly, Zbigniew Brzezinski, known to have ties to the CIA as early as 1959, was on the Columbia University faculty from 1960 to 1989 and was in charge of the Institute on Communist Affairs. He was also Obama's mentor. Brzezinski was President Carter's National Security Advisor from 1977 to 1981 and recently admitted that his objective was to entice the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan in December 1979.

Full article---
http://www.spingola.com/Barack_Obama_CIA.htm

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 04, 2011, 02:56:45 pm
Barack H. Obama - Born in Kenya IV - The Real Birth Certifiacte AT LAST!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI
 
Alex Jones - Phil Berg interview !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21-1cWqZG4g
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBEothvYfkY
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TgKU1LGyv8
 
 
Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

Michelle Obama speaking at the LGBT Delegate (The World as it Should Be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug

Grandmother says Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/

The Kenyan Birth Certificate has already been exposed.  It is time to impeach Obama.  He is a xenocrat.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 06, 2011, 06:55:38 pm
I don't know if this was posted previously, but:



Did you know? Obama's half sister, born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth
July 27th, 2009 2:08 am ET


Maya SoetoroMaya Soetoro was born to Indonesian businessman Lolo Soetoro and American cultural anthropologist Ann Dunham and half-sister to the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama. While living in Indonesia, she was home schooled by her mother and then attended Jakarta International School and returned to Hawaii and attended the private Punahou School in Honolulu, Hawaii, graduating in 1988.

Besides being the First Sister Maya has a HawaiiaCertification of Live Birth despite be born in Jakarta Indonesia. Supposedly this certificate was used by the Daily Kos to forge an Obama version. Anyone find it odd that Maya, undisputedly born in Indonesia, would have the same type of document as Barack Obama to forge?

http://www.examiner.com/orange-county-conservative-in-orlando/did-you-know-obama-s-half-sister-born-indonesia-has-a-hawaiian-certification-of-live-birth

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 06, 2011, 06:58:37 pm
I'll send you my research bill  ;)

http://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&q=obama%27s+indonesian+sister+hawaiian+birth+certificate&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=

http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/skousen-evidence-indicates-obamas-hawaiian-birth-certificate-falsified/

“On 10/7/2008, a Psychiatrist Dr. Bradley filed a motion to intervene on Berg’s behalf. The “friend of the Court” [amicus brief] asked to be placed in the records as ‘Jane Doe,’ citing professional and family reasons. She presented documentation from Obama’s grandmother, stepbrother and stepsister that Obama was born in Kenyaand, after birth, was rushed to Hawaii to fraudulently file for birth certification. She further documented that Obama’s Indonesian step sister was also rushed to Hawaii for US certification after her birth.

“Further, Bradley produced documentation that Obama had Indonesian citizenship under the name of Barry Soetoro. He also had an Indonesian passport up to and beyond age 18. After moving in with his Grandmother in Hawaii he did not ‘naturalize,’ as would be required. Bradley’s motion is that Obama is actually an illegal alien. 10/9/2008: In response to defendants’ request for evasion and continued secrecy, Berg filed a summary motion for a speedy trial date … against BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (his post Pakistan trip name), a/k/a BARRY SOETORO (his Indonesian name), a/k/a, BARRY OBAMA (his American nickname), a/k/a, and BARACK DUNHAM (another formerly used name).”

This is interesting too:

Obama's half-sister's name found on "his birth certificate" posted on campaign's official site
Israeli Insider ^

Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:56:03 PM by dascallie

Claim: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original By Israel Insider staff August 5, 2008

Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days. Israel Insider has not yet seen proof that would validate the claim.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13040.htm

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 06, 2011, 07:05:03 pm
Subject: Fw: Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court ..
 
 
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065855/posts

 
Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court (Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency)by Phillip Berg - 9/11 Truth Attorney for William Rodriguez
AmericaRight.com ^ | 8/21/08 | Jeff Schreiber

Posted on Thu Aug 21 17:00:24 2008 by LdSentinal

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party.

"I filed this action at this time," Berg stated, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.".

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator's background, and in today's lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls "dual loyalties" due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama's mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg stated. "If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws."

"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected."



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 06, 2011, 07:09:49 pm
I just discovered another interesting twist:  Obama's Indonesian half sister, who was DEFINITELY NOT born in Hawaii, also has a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth.

My own video about NBC using mind-influencing techniques to control peoples thoughts on the issue is now at #4 in News & Politics http://www.youtube.com/browse?c=25&l= on YouTube:

(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/z7loSBWXaNI/default.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7loSBWXaNI

I've got a lot of comments there, so I won't bother repeating them here.


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: jofortruth on January 06, 2011, 07:10:47 pm
Lady arrested for yelling Obama not a citizen at House reading of Constitution:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=197356.0
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on January 07, 2011, 04:55:57 am
The question also needs to be asked how is it that Obama managed to get into Occidental and Harvard, and his sister into the private Punahou school on Hawaii. Where did the money come from? All indications of their past is that there was no money for those expensive schools. Somebody paid the bills for them, but who? Maybe the CIA director can explain that!

And if it is in fact proven that his half sister also has a Hawaii COLB, and is in fact a non-citizen, that makes Obama's released COLB suspect at best because it shows that non-citizens can get the exact same document, making his claim that document proves something meaningless.

We've been had America!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 07, 2011, 05:19:46 am
Exactly Leo, his sister's COLB is the capper.

I really think this is what the cases should be focused on right now.  Subpoena the sister and her records.  Document analysis on her COLB and his.

It might tell us everything.

Where there's smoke there is bound to fire, IMO.

I think there is something to this story which doesn't seem to want to go away - probably because there is something to it.  Makes me think Berg's case was on the right track -- at least as far as this aspect is concerned.

I'd like to hear Chris Matthews talk about this, if he's rediscovered his balls.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 08, 2011, 01:18:00 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/jeff-kuhner-on-obamas-eligibility-media.html

Jeff Kuhner Interview on Obama's Eligibility: Media Privately Admit Constitutional Crisis; O's Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants.

Video: On the Peter Boyles radio show Jeff Kuhner of the Washington Times discusses Obama's eligibility in depth and talks about his recent comments on the media and top Democrats that are concerned about Obama's eligibility. Kuhner also touches on Obama's political prisoner LTC Terry Lakin and Obama's social security number reserved for Connecticut applicants. The show aired on 1/6/11.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/jeff-kuhner-on-obamas-eligibility-media.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 10, 2011, 03:11:33 pm
We know he is not a US citizen, now we just have to have him removed and his signed legislation invalidated.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 11, 2011, 05:06:39 pm
Obama supporters sending death threats to Obama's Political Prisoner Lt. Col. Terry Lakin's Representatives at American Patriot Foundation.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/obama-supporters-sending-death-threats.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on January 13, 2011, 01:54:35 am
Pending Obamacare lawsuit alleges healthcare-reform bill is unconstitutional on 15 separate counts including Obama's eligibility.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/pending-obamacare-lawsuit-alleges.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 14, 2011, 03:44:52 pm
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=186677

Oops! Obama mama passport 'destroyed'
State Dept. claims records gone for Stanley Ann Dunham prior to 1968


Posted: August 01, 2010
6:28 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

(http://www.wnd.com/images/100801stanleyanndunham.jpg)
Photo from Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro's 1972 passport records


Responding to a Freedom of Information Act request, the State Department has released passport records of Stanley Ann Dunham, President Obama's mother – but records for the years surrounding Obama's 1961 birth are missing.

The State Department claims a 1980s General Services Administration directive resulted in the destruction of many passport applications and other "nonvital" passport records, including Dunham's 1965 passport application and any other passports she may have applied for or held prior to 1965.

Destroyed, then, would also be any records shedding light on whether Dunham did or did not travel out of the country around the time of Barack Obama's birth.

The claim made in the Freedom of Information response letter that many passport records were destroyed during the 1980s comes despite a statement on the State Department website that Passport Services maintains U.S. passport records for passports issued from 1925 to the present.

The records released, however, contain interesting tidbits of new information about Obama's mother, including the odd listing of two different dates and locations for her marriage to Obama's Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro.

Full article--
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=186677
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 14, 2011, 03:55:11 pm
Funny thing, though, that oath we took.

That judge was fooked in the head.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: rabblevox on January 14, 2011, 03:55:46 pm
I honestly don't see why people care whether Obama is a legally-born citizen or not.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that he is not.  Let's say further, that he is either successfully impeached, or that the SCOTUS strips him of the presidency.

Do you honestly think Joe Biden would be an improvement?  I don't.

It's the same thing I tried to tell liberal friends who wanted to impeach Bush.  If they were successful, we would have had Cheney at the top, hardly an improvement, IMO.

And honestly? The NWO doesn't care.  They own the media, they own the military, they own the means of production.  They could really care less about the figurehead at the top.  Just like they could care less about DADT or gay marriage.

These are trivial non-issues designed to keep the people at the bottom at each other's throats, and away from focusing on the real culprits.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 14, 2011, 04:02:03 pm
I honestly don't see why people care whether Obama is a legally-born citizen or not.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that he is not.  Let's say further, that he is either successfully impeached, or that the SCOTUS strips him of the presidency.

Do you honestly think Joe Biden would be an improvement?  I don't.

It's the same thing I tried to tell liberal friends who wanted to impeach Bush.  If they were successful, we would have had Cheney at the top, hardly an improvement, IMO.

And honestly? The NWO doesn't care.  They own the media, they own the military, they own the means of production.  They could really care less about the figurehead at the top.  Just like they could care less about DADT or gay marriage.

These are trivial non-issues designed to keep the people at the bottom at each other's throats, and away from focusing on the real culprits.

The point is that if a law has Obama's signature on it then the law is invalid and Americans are not obligated to follow it.

The founding father's knew what they were doing by putting the natural-born clause in the US Constitution.  It was to prevent xenocracies.  Which is what the Executive Branch is now under.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on January 14, 2011, 04:18:05 pm
I honestly don't see why people care whether Obama is a legally-born citizen or not.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that he is not.  Let's say further, that he is either successfully impeached, or that the SCOTUS strips him of the presidency.

Do you honestly think Joe Biden would be an improvement?  I don't.

It's the same thing I tried to tell liberal friends who wanted to impeach Bush.  If they were successful, we would have had Cheney at the top, hardly an improvement, IMO.

And honestly? The NWO doesn't care.  They own the media, they own the military, they own the means of production.  They could really care less about the figurehead at the top.  Just like they could care less about DADT or gay marriage.

These are trivial non-issues designed to keep the people at the bottom at each other's throats, and away from focusing on the real culprits.

Are you an American citizen? If not, then I can understand your position.

The issue is rule of law. American has laws on line of succession. And our country's rules start and end with the Constitution. One of those rules says natural born. Don't like it? Then get a constitutional convention and change it.

It doesn't matter if the Vice President is a loser or not. It's about the law. You can't ignore the law because you think Biden sucks. What do you do if the president falls ill and dies in office, as it has happened in history? You get the vice president still. That's just the way it works. I don't think many wanted Johnson, but the law said that's who they get when Kennedy was murdered.

As pointed out, there are some very serious legal issues at stake as well if he is a fraud. You just can't ignore that.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on January 15, 2011, 09:05:02 am


Kilikia:
Quote
American has laws on line of succession. And our country's rules start and end with the Constitution.

That's right ... and the founders were VERY keen to make it impossible for the European aristocrats to step in an get themselves 'elected'. And that still is valid today.

President Berlusconi anyone? President Blair?



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: rabblevox on January 15, 2011, 09:35:36 am



President Berlusconi anyone? President Blair?





Would be not a nit of difference between Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc.  Puppets all.

Every President since JFK has been 100% MIC stooge.  And look where it got Jack.

The corporations own all three branches of government, and the military, the media, the money, and the food.

So yeah, at this point, President Blair, President Mao ZeDong, for all I care. That's not the story.  I want the puppeteers, not the puppets.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on January 15, 2011, 10:46:21 am
Before you can expose the puppeteer, you must first show the puppets being used.  Follow the strings....pull back the curtain...voila! 
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 15, 2011, 11:59:11 am
Would be not a nit of difference between Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc.  Puppets all.

Every President since JFK has been 100% MIC stooge.  And look where it got Jack.

The corporations own all three branches of government, and the military, the media, the money, and the food.

So yeah, at this point, President Blair, President Mao ZeDong, for all I care. That's not the story.  I want the puppeteers, not the puppets.

By exposing Barry-O (cutting his puppet strings) - you'll be revealing his true identity and document paper trail - you will expose the puppeteers manipulation of the people: selling them a made up candidate. When this becomes wider known to the public, more will wake up as the puppeteers scramble to cover their losses.

Regarding Biden taking over--I doubt that would happen. If Barry is revealed so will the Democrats unlawful campaign for election--meaning Biden may be as much out of luck as the pResident--they would need a different replacement, no doubt a temporary one from the House or Senate.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 18, 2011, 05:51:39 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/birther-aka-constitutionalist-arrested.html

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/TTVADJJKdFI/AAAAAAAACYw/Jw7Vu2PdtpQ/s320/Cao.jpg)
CBS/Youtube

Tuesday, January 18, 2011
Birther AKA Constitutionalist Arrested During Congressional Reading of Constitution to Hold Press Conference After Arraignment on 1/19.
ObamaRelease YourRecords on 12:01 AM

Theresa Cao the Birther AKA Constitutionalist who was arrested during the congressional reading of the United States Constitution will hold a press conference after her arraignment on January 19, 2011.

Via Unlawful President; - Arrested “House” Crasher to hold press conference after arraignment -

“BIRTHER” ARRESTED AT CAPITOL GALLERY HOLDS PRESS CONFERENCE FOLLOWING ARRAIGNMENT ON WEDNESDAY!

Contact Info: Theresa Cao: Phone: 202.556.6007; Email: [email protected]

WASHINGTON, D.C., January 18, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ –“Birther” Theresa Cao, who some have renamed “New ‘Speaker of the House’” will be arraigned this Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 10:30am [Eastern Time] at Superior Court [Moultrie Courthouse], Courtroom C-10, 500 Indiana Ave., NW, Washington, DC, 20001.

Note: Request support from other victims of U.S. Government Injustice including: Pili Lakin [wife of Ltc. Terrence Lakin, who has been unjustly found guiltly in his Army court martial trial and is now serving time at Fort Leavenworth Penitentiary, Kansas], Commander Charles Kerchner, Cpt. Pamela Barnett, all friends of Ltc. Lakin and all American Patriots.

Cao attended the “first time ever” reading of the U.S. Constitution on Capitol Hill at the U.S. House of Representatives Gallery on January 6, 2011. As a U.S. Citizen, Theresa had hoped to witness, at least one U.S. Congressional leader who would boldly stand to defend God, Country and the U.S. Constitution.

When she realized that no one in Congress was going to stand to defend the Natural Born Citizen [Article II Section 1] requirement to be President, she instinctively exclaimed what she knows to be the truth; she expressed her personal allegiance to God, Country and the U.S. Constitution and cried out “Except Obama! Except Obama! Help us Jesus! My name is Theresa…!”

Cao was immediately removed from the gallery, then arrested, handcuffed, and charged with the federal misdemeanor of Unlawful Conduct [Disruption of Congress] [DC CODE: 10 DC 503.16 B.4]. Cao was processed and released by the Capitol Hill Headquarters Police, with a scheduled arraignment set for this Wednesday.

Following her arraignment, Cao will hold a press conference outside the Courthouse on the public sidewalk to answer questions from the press and all interested citizens. All are welcome.

Full article and videos - here--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/birther-aka-constitutionalist-arrested.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 19, 2011, 09:49:51 am
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833

Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate
Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances

Posted: January 18, 2011
8:05 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily

(http://www.wnd.com/images/100810neilabercrombie.jpg)
Neil Abercrombie

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"

Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.

"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.

For seemingly the first time, Abercrombie frankly acknowledged that presidential politics motivated his search for Obama birth records, implying that failure to resolve the questions that remain unanswered about the president's birth and early life may damage his chance for re-election.

"If there is a political agenda (regarding Obama's birth certificate), then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president," he said.

Full article--
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 21, 2011, 03:17:03 pm
Would You join A Class Action Lawsuit to Force Obama to Prove Eligibilty?Posted by Tom Cooper on December 21, 2010 at 10:56pm
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I believe that this is the greatest threat to our constitutional republic that has ever been foisted upon us and that we MUST demand to see ALL of Obama's records. What is he hiding?

 

Most people seem to dismiss or ignore the Obama eligibility question without knowing the true facts. Regardless of the many other arguments such as his hiding his birth records and scholastic records, both parents are required to be natural born U.S. citizens. His weren't. This alone disqualifies him. Period!

 

If Obama were proven to be ineligible to hold the office of President, everything he has signed into law would automatically be repealed, and he along with Biden would be removed from office because the ticket would have been illegitimate from the outset.




The court cases brought against him have been on behalf of a few individuals, that the courts have said "Have no Standing" to bring the case. They have been dismissed not on evidence, but on the question of standing. If we as taxpaying Americans who will have to live under the regulations this man signs into law and their resulting consequences, how is it that we don't have standing to demand our President prove his eligibility? (The treatment of Col. Terry Lakin was shameful) Not to mention our first amendment right to a redress of grievances against the government.





It is my thought that a judge would have a very hard time dismissing thousands, tens of thousands, or even millions of Americans joined together requiring the right to discovery. A grass roots effort could accomplish this very quickly across the Internet.




So the question is... would you be willing to join with other patriotic Americans in a Class Action Law Suit demanding the removal of Barak Obama based on the fact that he is ineligible to hold the office of President?


http://ipatriot.com/forum/topics/would-you-join-a-class-action
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 21, 2011, 03:18:11 pm
UPDATE:

Please Continue to Add Your Reply to this Post!

Please Send this URL to everyone who might be interested in joining also.




The response to this post demonstrates that people are excited about the possibility of taking personal and direct action to address the issue of Obama's refusal to produce a Birth Certificate, College Records, and a myriad of other documents that would fill in the blanks of this man from no-where.

 

I am in the process of contacting several people who can help me determine:

1) Is a Class Action Suit legally viable

2) Can I count on certain people with resources and influence to participate in this effort and take it viral across the Internet.

3) How quickly can we mount a lawsuit. I am also trying to find out if the majority of attorney's who have been or are fighting the battle already are willing to share information in order to determine what has worked, what has failed, and how can we move forward without going over the same ground that has already been covered by the multiple suits.

I am asking people who want me to keep them informed to send me their e-mail address to:

[email protected]

 

If I try to send e-mail from gmail they will probably close the account so I will work on setting up an email address that I can send from.


 

Some are worried about the cost, it is my hope that if we can get certain people to cooperate and we know that there will be a massive response, each person on the suit can join for free if they just can't afford to help, but that the majority would donate $29.95 each to cover the cost of mounting the suit. That shouldn't break anybody. Once an attorney(s) are in place we can address how the donations will be processed and accounted for.


 

If enough people respond we can use it to finance a media blitz that would gain greater support and publicity putting more pressure on those deciding the case.

 

Of course I may find out that no one wants to touch this effort, at which point I will share that with you also.

 

God Bless you, and God Bless America!

 

Tom Cooper


 

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 21, 2011, 03:18:56 pm
I am not Tom Cooper but a link was sent to my e-mail regarding this.

I just thought I'd post it here.   :)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 22, 2011, 05:38:33 pm
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJD1AUmFV0f0ZjUdfkw-1m7Xm8EQ?docId=5aea898abc754aa6a82a99e17b21abe3

Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

(AP) – 20 hours ago

HONOLULU (AP) — A privacy law that shields birth certificates has prompted Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Barack Obama was born outside Hawaii, his office says.

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

"There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document," said Dela Cruz. "Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president."

Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama's parents and knew him as a child, launched an investigation last month into whether he can release more information about the president's Aug. 4, 1961 birth. The governor said at the time he was bothered by people who questioned Obama's birthplace for political reasons.

But Abercrombie's attempt reached a dead end when Louie told him the law restricted his options.

Full article here:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJD1AUmFV0f0ZjUdfkw-1m7Xm8EQ?docId=5aea898abc754aa6a82a99e17b21abe3

Hawaii statement--
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


In 1980, Obama Admitted He Was Born In Mombasa
http://1dragon.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 22, 2011, 06:14:06 pm
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJD1AUmFV0f0ZjUdfkw-1m7Xm8EQ?docId=5aea898abc754aa6a82a99e17b21abe3

Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

(AP) – 20 hours ago

HONOLULU (AP) — A privacy law that shields birth certificates has prompted Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Barack Obama was born outside Hawaii, his office says.

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

"There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document," said Dela Cruz. "Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president."

Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama's parents and knew him as a child, launched an investigation last month into whether he can release more information about the president's Aug. 4, 1961 birth. The governor said at the time he was bothered by people who questioned Obama's birthplace for political reasons.

But Abercrombie's attempt reached a dead end when Louie told him the law restricted his options.

Full article here:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJD1AUmFV0f0ZjUdfkw-1m7Xm8EQ?docId=5aea898abc754aa6a82a99e17b21abe3

Hawaii statement--
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


In 1980, Obama Admitted He Was Born In Mombasa
http://1dragon.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/


And, of course, why would Obama consent to release it at this point?

How can his cool-aid drinkers not demand he do?  That is what really bugs me.

If they really believe in him, they should believe he has nothing to hide.  Clearly he has not given permission for th documents to be released and likely never will -- even if they haven't been destroyed already as I suspect they have.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on January 23, 2011, 03:23:11 am
With the way they are squirming around trying to avoid the issue directly, and now Obama has a family friend in the governor's office, I don't know how people can't see that the fix is in, whatever the fix may be. It's not just his birth that is in question, but his overall activities as well.

This is now the second time Hawaii has taken the "privacy issue" angle, claiming only Obama can authorize the proof that is needed. Now how contrary to law is that? He we have the very person in question, holds the authorization to prove he hasn't broken the law, as the one who can resolve the issue, and he refuses? Why don't people see the problem with that?

It's like having an attorney general being in question of a crime, and it is that AG who makes the decision whether or not the AG should charge himself with a crime. HELLO! Earth calling reason! ::) The law says that AG would have to basically recuse himself fromt he case and another AG step in and handle the case. So for the same reason, Obama should not have the ability to have final say on what get's revealed as proof. A politician cannot make law(Obama did with his Executive Order that sealed his own records) to protect themselves from being found guilty of a crime, or change law that makes their actions no longer a crime. That in itself is criminal.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 23, 2011, 03:56:24 am
But they are admitting now that he could not possibly have been properly vetted by his own party for the election and so was ineligible.

What am I not getting here?

Shouldn't Pelosi be in jail now?  (For this alone.)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on January 23, 2011, 04:46:55 am
A matter of timing in that respect. And what they are officially claiming about his records. If it can be shown the records weren't available at the time of his running for office, they got problems big time. That would mean somebody broke the law, and he was ineligable to run for the presidency, and under that scenario, he is still an illegal candidate and should be removed from office immediately.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 23, 2011, 09:32:05 am
Irrefutable Proof that Barack Obama is Not Eligible to be President of the
United States, the Facts Don't Lie!
 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38106776/Irrefutable-Proof-that-Obama-is-Not-Eligible-to-be-President-of-the-United-States-the-Facts-Don-t-Lie
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 23, 2011, 09:40:31 am
Barrack H. Obama - Born in Kenya IV - The Real Birth Certificate AT LAST!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI

 
Alex Jones - Phil Berg interview !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21-1cWqZG4g
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBEothvYfkY
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TgKU1LGyv8
 
 
Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ


Michelle Obama speaking at the LGBT Delegate (The World as it Should Be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug


Grandmother says Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw


Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/r
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on January 23, 2011, 09:43:13 am
His Kenyan Birth Certificate has already made the light of day, now all we have to do is remove him from office.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Dig on January 23, 2011, 06:45:06 pm
Governor of Hawaii admits that Barry Soetoro might be born in Kenya

Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii governor drops mission to dispel birthers, prove Obama was born in state
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/22/2011-01-22_neil_abercrombie_hawaii_governor_drops_mission_to_dispel_birthers_prove_obama_wa.html
BY Aliyah Shahid DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Saturday, January 22nd 2011, 3:39 PM
 
Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie is giving up on efforts to squash claims that President Barack Obama wasn't born in his state -- but it's not for lack of trying. State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that it's against state law to release private documents, including an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent. "There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document," Abercrombie's spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.


This is hilarious...Barry just has to "consent". Oh yeah, and that "privacy" rule has been treasonously violated by Bilderberg usurpers in over 100 billion cases since 9/11 alone.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 23, 2011, 06:49:21 pm
Exactly.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 24, 2011, 12:05:55 pm

Hon. James David Manning, PhD speaks about Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie not being able to find Barack Hussein "The Long Legged Mack Daddy" Obama's Birth Certificate, and says Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Bill O'Reilly, and Glenn Beck committed fraud. Recorded on 20 January 2010


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHwYJqLshW0
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 26, 2011, 01:46:48 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/update-hollywood-reporter-mike-evans.html

Video: Hollywood Reporter Mike Evans clarifies his comments that there is NO long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/TUApQCwsEKI/AAAAAAAACbQ/qYa-_YSy31Y/s320/abercrombieevanscourtesyevansradiodotcom.jpg)

Damage Control:
Hollywood Reporter Mike Evans, reaffirms(backtracks) that Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie told him, now says he did not speak with Abercrombie but spoke with his office. But still says there is NO long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama in the state of Hawaii. Mike Evans appeared on the Peter Boyles radio show to discuss his recent comments on the KQRS morning show. Once the audio is available I will update this post with it. Below is the audio of his KQRS appearance.

UPDATE 1: WND's Dr. Jerome Corsi joined in the discussion with Boyles and Evans. I will post it in full once uploaded...

UPDATE 2: Full interview with Mike Evans and Dr. Jerome Corsi on the Peter Boyles show embedded below...
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/update-hollywood-reporter-mike-evans.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 27, 2011, 01:38:36 pm
Uh oh--the plot thickens---   :o

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1lGFYYNkw_o/S5n-hzhs-9I/AAAAAAAAAUE/AamDGrC0f1I/S220/Aundocumentedobama.jpg)

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-audio-of-mike-evans-telling-second.html

New Audio of Mike Evans Telling Second Radio Station He Spoke with Governor Abercrombie and He Told Him No Hawaii Birth Certificate for Obama.

Video: The Plot Thickens. Peter Boyles found a second audio clip of Hollywood Reporter Mike Evans saying he spoke with Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie about Obama's missing birth certificate, even though Evans now back tracks his comment that He spoke with Abercrombie. New Audio of Mike Evans embedded below. Previous reports on Mike Evans can be found here, here and here.

UPDATE: I am told by a reputable source that he told 3 radio stations. According to the clip below Evans is syndicated with over 30 radio stations. No telling how many he told. Stay Tuned!

Video--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-audio-of-mike-evans-telling-second.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 28, 2011, 11:08:39 am

Hawaii lawmakers want release of Obama birth info

Article--
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/01/27/general-us-obama-birth-certificate_8278966.html

Comments from page--

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I see that the article doesn't even know which hospital or where he was born. How has this been allowed to happen in America. Our elected are cowards and this is the price we pay for political correctness.

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It seems to me, that I've read several news reports that Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercombie can't find Obama's Birth Certificate, that Abercombie say's it's in the archives somewhere.
Yet, we have Hawaii's health director who say's she verified Obama's original records?
And Hawaii's Attorney General David Louie said privacy laws bars Gov. Abercombie from disclosing an individuals birth documents without a person's consent.
So, what are people to believe?


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on January 28, 2011, 01:09:01 pm
Maybe Neil needs to talk to the previous governor, who claimed the long-form had been visually verified by state officials, but I don't think she ever claimed she saw it herself.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on January 30, 2011, 02:23:11 pm
Tuesday, January 18, 2011
Strunk v Paterson (Obama): First time in the USA since 1824; Judge has opined on what Natural Born citizen is; Concludes Obama is not a NBC

ObamaRelease YourRecords on 12:42 PM 

Via Chris Strunk; The first time anywhere in the USA since 1824, that any Judge has opined on what Natural Born citizen is and concluding that BHO Jr. is not NBC.

This affidavit will be notarized tomorrow and duly served by two days mail upon Justice Schmidt and the State in regards to the appearance on a personal and confidential basis with the intent that Plaintiffs understanding of the record of the hearing be entered into the court record enabling further action by Plaintiff when the Order shown as Exhibit C is entered and forwarded by the State to Plaintiff.

That I am producing a duplicate for Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. so that she may forward it to the SCOTUS in her action presently there. -snip-
UPDATE: New comment by Chris Strunk here.

From the Affidavit; 1. This is the AFFIDAVIT OF Christopher-Earl: Strunk in esse, Witness at the January 11, 2011 Hearing on the Notice of Motion for Amended Complaint in Strunk v Paterson et al. New York State Supreme Court of Kings County Index No.: 29642-08 before the Honorable Supreme Court Justice David I. Schmidt with the appearance of Joan Duffy, Esq. Supervising Assistant Attorney General for the New York Attorney General’s Office and Joel Graber, Esq. Special Assistant Attorney General representing the State of New York as a party-in-interest opposing the Motion to Amend the Complaint.

2. After the Court called those in attendance including several law clerks and the audience to order, the Honorable Justice Schmidt questioned Plaintiff as to the subject request for relief to amend the complaint and status of the underlying complaint without there being a recording or transcript of the proceeding.

3. As to the proposed amended complaint, the Court asked whether Plaintiff expects the Court to remove Barack Hussein Obama from office; to wit Plaintiff responded “NO” as that remains a Federal matter. Plaintiff seeks a declaratory judgment as to breach of fiduciary duty by the Defendants failure to provide equal treatment and protection of Plaintiff along with those similarly situated in regards to the certification of the Presidential / Vice Presidential candidates ballot access at the 2008 Election cycle; and as well as plaintiff seeks further discovery as to the scheme to defraud and unjust enrichment.

4. That Plaintiff stated the NYS Board of Elections never responded to the request for documentation of the various certifications of ballot access for the various Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates; and as previously expressed to the Court Plaintiff had filed in Washington DC a FOIA case 08-cv-2234 for the travel records of Stanley Ann Dunham germane herein with a motion for summary judgment decision pending before Judge Richard J. Leon.

5. The Court asked if Plaintiff is seeking to obtain a copy of Barack Hussein Obama Jr.’s (BHO Jr.) Certified Birth record herein; to wit Plaintiff responded "NO". Plaintiff seeks a decision by the Court as to whether or not the Candidate(s) are eligible for Office of President of the United States (POTUS) as required with the United States Constitution Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 as required as a regulation by the New York State Board of Elections including inter alias based upon the Certificate of Live Birth published August 21, 2008 by Annenberg Political Fact Check at FactCheck.org http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html (see Exhibit A); and that as a prima facie matter Plaintiff seeks a Court decision herein as to whether or not Obama in fact has Dual Allegiance, is not a Natural Born Citizen per se but merely a Native-Born citizen if that; because BHO Jr.’s father, BHO Sr., is a British subject with a student visa at that time, and is shown to be the purported father of BHO Jr. by both the newspaper announcement and the COLB shown by Fact Check.org; and therefore, at best BHO Jr. is only a "Native" born citizen, if that, with only one U.S. Citizen parent mother as a minor at his birth, and that without two U.S. Citizen parents - BHO Jr. is NOT a "Natural" born citizen at best is “Native” born.

6. The Court asked to know Plaintiff's understanding of the difference between "Native" and "Natural" born citizen, to wit Plaintiff explained on a blood and soil basis as of the Law of Nations as related to the 1961, 1963 and 1969 Vienna Convention Treaty matters as to citizenship status as with the children of diplomats and tourists who were not certified admitted by the U.S. Customs Service; and

7. Plaintiff provided the Court with a copy of the SCOTUS decision in McCreery's Lessee v Somerville 22 US 354 (1824) (see Exhibit B), and

8. That the Court responded favorably to Plaintiff’s argument and contention expressing familiarity with the difference between the Natural and Native born, as there is within Jewish law similar precedent and commented that the Court agreed there is a difference and would read the SCOTUS decision Plaintiff provided....


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/strunk-v-paterson-obama-first-time-in.html?showComment=1295394909532#c7713409558809462546
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 31, 2011, 05:07:37 pm
Full article here:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/formal-complaint-of-election-fraud.html

Hawaii: Formal complaint of election fraud against Lt. Gov. Brian E. Schatz, acting as Chair of the Democratic Party of Hawaii; Investigate Now!
Monday, January 31, 2011

Snippet via jbjd; If Barack Obama is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President then, those members of the D party broke the law in 2008 who swore to state election officials he was, to get them to print his name on the ballot in those states that only print the names of candidates qualified for the job Many people who believe he is ineligible advocate we should shore up state election laws to forestall another round of fraud in 2012.  Meanwhile, others urge we should not let off the hook those members of the D party who fraudulently pulled off his election in 2008.

Complete details here;
http://jbjd.org/2011/01/29/aloha-obama-and-shalom
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on January 31, 2011, 05:20:38 pm
Much of this has been posted before--but here it is all in one page--

http://www.rense.com/general92/birthcert.htm

Is This Obama's Birth Certificate From Mombasa, Kenya?

Note - This story has been shredded by Snopes. However, in the interest of reporting the
full scope of what is being discussed and displayed online, we post the following story.
1-31-11
 
Here it is, folks! The document we have been waiting for!   
Now if only SOMEONE in Congress or the Supreme Court will act on this!
Spread this around.....if these documents are as authentic as they certainly seem to be, 
Obama is NOT qualified to be our President and he sits in the White House illegally.
This is what Obama has spent almost $2M (so far) to hide.

(http://www.rense.com/general92/5491a382-8fea-4169-b400-31e.jpg)

See full page article here--
http://www.rense.com/general92/birthcert.htm
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on February 03, 2011, 02:12:50 pm
No this is.

Barrack H. Obama - Born in Kenya IV - The Real Birth Certificate AT LAST!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI

 
Alex Jones - Phil Berg interview !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21-1cWqZG4g
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBEothvYfkY
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TgKU1LGyv8
 
 
Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ


Michelle Obama speaking at the LGBT Delegate (The World as it Should Be)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug


Grandmother says Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw


Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/r
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 06, 2011, 01:22:29 pm
No this is.


You should read the above article I posted--it is talking about the same Lucas Smith version.
http://www.rense.com/general92/birthcert.htm

This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it
 directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa , Kenya . Here it is.....

(http://www.rense.com/general92/d3e335ba-2870-492c-af0f-2b2.jpg)

Still it could easily be a forgery, not because Smith is tying to fabricate this, but because there are those who sell these documents, even in Kenya, to make money--doesn't mean they are authentic.

Also, be wary of Orly Taitz--very possibly an agent provocateur to trash and crash the Birther movement.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 07, 2011, 03:46:24 pm

Court Orders Obama To Resign In 90 Days
Hon. James David Manning, PhD says Mr. Barack Hussein "Long Legged Mack Daddy" Obama has to confess his guilt and resign in 90 days. Recorded on 31 January 2011.

Video-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h0EdpvZ23s
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on February 07, 2011, 03:56:04 pm
What court? Manning's? Is he proclaiming himself a judge now? (no I didn't watch the video because I'd rather save myself from the anguish of hearing his pseudo-Christian rhetoric)

Sorry, but that guy gives Christianity a bad name, and he isn't helping the Obama situation either. Dr. Manning needs to go back and read his bible several more times because he obviously missed virtually all of it, especially the part about not getting caught up in worldly affairs.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 07, 2011, 05:47:46 pm
What court? Manning's? Is he proclaiming himself a judge now? (no I didn't watch the video because I'd rather save myself from the anguish of hearing his pseudo-Christian rhetoric)

Sorry, but that guy gives Christianity a bad name, and he isn't helping the Obama situation either. Dr. Manning needs to go back and read his bible several more times because he obviously missed virtually all of it, especially the part about not getting caught up in worldly affairs.

 ::)

You certainly didn't watch the vid. Manning is talking about the Obama Sedition and Treason trial and investigation he held in NYC this last summer. Christianity doesn't need Manning's help to give it a bad name, it's had plenty of help from others.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on February 08, 2011, 04:20:41 am
That's not the point of my question. The Christian issue is why I don't care to watch his stuff.

I know the subject is Obama. All I asked was what court? Since when is he a judge, per the article title?

In other words, what's up with the misleading title about a court and a judge? That kind of stuff doesn't help at all because it makes the case look silly at best, and worse by basically lying since there is no court or judge involved.

It's the same thing as writing an article about the end of Obama's presidency and titling the article "Obama to leave office!".

That kind of junk is grandstanding and looks deceptive and underhanded.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 08, 2011, 11:04:07 am
That's not the point of my question. The Christian issue is why I don't care to watch his stuff.

I know the subject is Obama. All I asked was what court? Since when is he a judge, per the article title?

In other words, what's up with the misleading title about a court and a judge? That kind of stuff doesn't help at all because it makes the case look silly at best, and worse by basically lying since there is no court or judge involved.

It's the same thing as writing an article about the end of Obama's presidency and titling the article "Obama to leave office!".

That kind of junk is grandstanding and looks deceptive and underhanded.

If you would take the time to do some reading on this subject, you would understand. All this information was posted and covered last spring - summer, 2010.

Here--
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=172529.msg1024814#msg1024814

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=126130.msg1019920#msg1019920

Related--
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=125135.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=168455.0


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Dok on February 10, 2011, 02:07:47 pm
Presidential candidates: Better find those birth certificates!

11th state eyeing proof of Obama's eligibility
Lawmaker files new bill to require presidential candidates be qualified

The push at the state level to ensure no future president enters office under the cloud of suspicion that he or she might not be constitutionally eligible is growing.

At the request of a local tea-party group, Tennessee state Sen. Mae Beavers has filed a bill that would require presidential candidates to show an original birth certificate establishing constitutional eligibility for the office before getting on the ballot beginning in 2012.

Beavers told a local television station she said she wouldn't comment about whether or not she believes Obama meets the test because she has no personal knowledge about whether or not he can prove it. She said, however, this legislation would erase all concerns in future elections.

"We just want to make doubly sure in Tennessee if we put someone on the ballot, they are qualified to run," said Beavers.

That makes 11 state legislatures now considering such bills – with several of them well on the way to passage.



Read more: 11th state eyeing proof of Obama's eligibility http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=261901#ixzz1DaYCBvnc
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on February 10, 2011, 02:15:40 pm
If you would take the time to do some reading on this subject, you would understand. All this information was posted and covered last spring - summer, 2010.

Here--
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=172529.msg1024814#msg1024814

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=126130.msg1019920#msg1019920

Related--
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=125135.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=168455.0




I've read through that stuff already. Your still missing the point. Carry on. ::)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on February 10, 2011, 03:03:48 pm
You should read the above article I posted--it is talking about the same Lucas Smith version.
http://www.rense.com/general92/birthcert.htm

This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it
 directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa , Kenya . Here it is.....

(http://www.rense.com/general92/d3e335ba-2870-492c-af0f-2b2.jpg)

Still it could easily be a forgery, not because Smith is tying to fabricate this, but because there are those who sell these documents, even in Kenya, to make money--doesn't mean they are authentic.

Also, be wary of Orly Taitz--very possibly an agent provocateur to trash and crash the Birther movement.

Okay my bad I didn't see the footprint.  I wasn't trying to give you a hard time.    :)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on February 14, 2011, 06:50:52 pm
I've read through that stuff already. Your still missing the point. Carry on. ::)

If you had read through that stuff already then you would have answered your questions.
Quote
In other words, what's up with the misleading title about a court and a judge? That kind of stuff doesn't help at all because it makes the case look silly at best, and worse by basically lying since there is no court or judge involved.

The Judge was Bob Unger of Long Island, New York
The Court was held in the ATLAH World Missionary Church at 38 West 123rd in Harlem, New York City

(http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/images/atlah-obama-birthcertif.jpg)

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/05/rev-james-david-manning-trial-results.html
Excerpt from trial results--

COURT RECESSED FOR JURY DELIBERATIONS

at 1:30 pm, 05/18/2010

COURT RECONVENED FOR THE JURY VERDICT

at 4:30 pm, 05/18/2010

Jury returns with the Verdict:

GUILTY on all counts against Columbia University former President Michael I. Sovern* (1980-1993), and Barack Hussein Obama. Main findings were:

• Mail and wire fraud;

• Obstruction of Justice;

• Disclosure of State Secrets;

• Sedition – against the people of the United States of America;

• Dwight D. Eisenhower was president of Columbia from 1948-1953, when he left to become the 34th President of the United States.

Statement by the Jury Foreman before the jury is excused by the Judge:

Due to the seriousness of the crimes, we the jury recommend that the U.S. Congress conduct a full-scale investigation of these indictments, and take appropriate action therefore.

COURT ADJOURNED

at 5:00 pm, 05/18/2010”

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/05/rev-james-david-manning-trial-results.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 25, 2011, 05:44:01 pm
Arizona’s Proposed Interstate Birth Certificate Compact Law would allow duel citizens or a child born in the U.S. to one or two alien parents to be recognized as a “natural born Citizen.”

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/arizonas-proposed-interstate-birth.html

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/attorney-leo-donofrio-arizona-senate.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on February 28, 2011, 05:15:05 am
Colonel Hollister: Obama's Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants Comes Back as "Fail" and “SSN Not in File (Never Issued)”

This is very interesting news, according to Colonel Gregory Hollister of Hollister v Soetoro, the questionable social security number reserved for Connecticut applicants/residents that Obama is using came back as "fail" and “SSN not in file (never issued)” when searched on the Social Security Number Verification Service (SSNVS) web site. The SSNVS web site allows certain registered users to verify names and social security numbers. If you recall, the social number was verified as being used by Obama in his questionable Selective Service registration which can be verified by any online user.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/colonel-gregory-hollister-obamas-social.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: citizenx on February 28, 2011, 05:22:07 am
Arizona’s Proposed Interstate Birth Certificate Compact Law would allow duel citizens or a child born in the U.S. to one or two alien parents to be recognized as a “natural born Citizen.”

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/arizonas-proposed-interstate-birth.html

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/attorney-leo-donofrio-arizona-senate.html

Another ex post facto law?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 01, 2011, 07:33:16 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110301/ts_yblog_theticket/huckabee-falsely-claims-obama-was-raised-in-kenya

Huckabee falsely claims Obama was raised in Kenya

Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee mistakenly said President Obama was raised in Kenya during an interview yesterday in which he argued that the president's upbringing in Africa gave him a very different outlook on the world than that held by most Americans.

WOR radio host Steve Malzberg asked the former Arkansas governor to weigh in on the "birther" debate. Huckabee sidestepped, saying: "I would love to know more, but what I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example's very different than the average American."

Full article--
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110301/ts_yblog_theticket/huckabee-falsely-claims-obama-was-raised-in-kenya
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Nailer on March 01, 2011, 08:03:38 pm
Natural born citizens beware


This just might make your day a little brighter!! 

You, who worry about democrats versus republicans -- relax,

here is our real problem.

 In a Purdue University classroom, they were discussing the qualifications to be President of the United States. 

It was pretty simple.  The candidate must be a natural born citizen of at least 35 years of age. 

However, one girl in the class immediately started in on how unfair was the requirement to be a natural born citizen.  In short, her opinion was that this requirement prevented many capable individuals from becoming president. 

The class was taking it in and letting her rant, and not many jaws hit the floor when she wrapped up her argument by stating  "What makes a natural born citizen any more qualified to lead this country than one born by C-section?" 

Yep, these are the same kinds of 18-year-olds that are now voting in our elections!

They breed and they walk among US...




Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: agentbluescreen on March 01, 2011, 08:13:30 pm


You mean Obama's mother may have had a C section as well?
 :o
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: agentbluescreen on March 01, 2011, 08:23:35 pm

WOR radio host Steve Malzberg asked the former Arkansas governor to weigh in on the "birther" debate. Huckabee sidestepped, saying: "I would love to know more, but what I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example's very different than the average American."


Well he's probably right because the "average American" today probably thinks Britain is a place in Hollywood where they film Crusader and Spartacus movies
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on March 02, 2011, 02:33:27 pm
Natural born citizens beware


This just might make your day a little brighter!! 

You, who worry about democrats versus republicans -- relax,

here is our real problem.

 In a Purdue University classroom, they were discussing the qualifications to be President of the United States. 

It was pretty simple.  The candidate must be a natural born citizen of at least 35 years of age. 

However, one girl in the class immediately started in on how unfair was the requirement to be a natural born citizen.  In short, her opinion was that this requirement prevented many capable individuals from becoming president. 

The class was taking it in and letting her rant, and not many jaws hit the floor when she wrapped up her argument by stating  "What makes a natural born citizen any more qualified to lead this country than one born by C-section?" 

Yep, these are the same kinds of 18-year-olds that are now voting in our elections!

They breed and they walk among US...


This was so funny I had to post this at other forums I visit.    ;D
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on March 06, 2011, 07:08:09 am
2006 Chicago Sun-Times Interview: Illinois State Senator Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah AKA Barry Soetoro Admits Childhood in Kenya

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/09/obama_africa_lessons_look_ahea.html

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/03/new-analysis-five-days-before-election.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Shorty123 on March 06, 2011, 07:47:24 am
Here is a thought, though since I don't know all that has been tried to gain insight on where he was born, I do know that some people have tried to look up his mother's information in HI and the other state they lived.

On the birth certificate, his father's birthdate only states 1936, no day or month. Is this a custom in Kenya to not provide this information??? Did Obama's father go to college in the states? If so, someone should search that and see if they can obtain his father's birthdate to see if it matches at least the year on the Kenyian BC...
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on March 07, 2011, 02:21:49 am
Yes, his dad went to...wait for it...HARVARD, on scholarship somehow. Any questions?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on March 09, 2011, 01:29:52 pm
NPR "we're not covering the birthers"

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/03/npr-busted-senior-director-of-ig-betsy.html

Video: National Public Radio's Senior Director of Institutional Giving Betsy Liley spills the birther beans during an undercover sting. The Washington Times omits the text, in their report, of her saying there's still a question if Obama was really born in Hawaii. And, Betsy forgot about these--
Phillip Berg esq. is a Democrat.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 03, 2011, 11:40:19 am
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35093

Obama’s ineligibility: conspiracy and cowardice

 - Lawrence Sellin  Saturday, April 2, 2011

Unless I am mistaken, it has always been a Constitutional requirement that a Presidential candidate be a natural born citizen. That is, the candidate must be born in the US of parents who are US citizens at the time of birth.

According to that definition, Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen and, therefore, has never been eligible for the Presidency.

How could he have been nominated by the Democratic Party, placed on ballots in all 50 states, certified by the Electoral College and sworn into office by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?

Did I miss some important event somewhere along the way to the 2009 inauguration? Are we not using the natural born definition anymore? If so, who decided that? Was the Constitution amended in secret?

Actually, none of that happened.

What I think did happen was that many people got caught up in the euphoria and glamor of electing the nation’s first African-American President. The left wing of the Democratic Party saw it as a possible way of achieving long-term power. The main stream media, which is a shill for the Democrat Party, put its full weight behind Obama. Finally, the Republican Party may have been intimidated into cowardice by political correctness, fear of press ridicule and their own love of power and privilege.

So, rather than deal with the troublesome requirement of natural born citizenship, it appears that some individuals may have intentionally decided to sidestep the Constitution, while the vast majority of those who knew better, simply acquiesced.
A conspiracy of silence remains in effect today

A conspiracy of silence remains in effect today. One can only conclude that rather than face the truth, our political leadership has chosen to enter the 2012 election cycle as if nothing is wrong.

What the sorry excuses for statesmen don’t realize is that by not facing up to such an issue both then and now, they have irreparably damaged the foundation of our republic. A precedent has been set that the Constitution may be invoked when it is politically expedient to do so, or just as easily ignored by the same criterion.

On the Democratic side of the aisle, there are some, who believe that they are blessed with only noble intentions and possess bound volumes of the truth. Any opposing views are not only wrong, but they are evil or stupid. It is acceptable, therefore, to express rage and fling insults at anyone, who disagrees with them. The end, to dramatically transform the US according to their left wing ideologies, justifies the means.

On the Republican side of the aisle, there are some, who are simply weak and cowardly.

It appears that the majority of our political leadership and the main stream media, probably for different reasons, have decided not to address the issue of Obama’s ineligibility.

Full article--
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35093

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 04, 2011, 12:19:44 pm
http://biglicknews.blogspot.com/2011/03/obama-is-illegal-alien-using-deceased.html

Obama is a illegal alien using deceased Thomas Woods social security number.
SSN ###-##-#### was stolen by Obama.


Colorado Springs man's claim to have Obama records starts buzz

Excerpt:  “According to the Social Security Administration, that number was never issued,” said Hollister, who challenged whether the president is an American citizen in a lawsuit the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear Jan. 18 without requiring a response from the White House.

However, that’s the Social Security number that appears on the Selective Service documents Hollister obtained.

Go here for the rest of this article--
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=275861

BLN  Obama can't show what he doesn't have.  Everything he has signed is null and void, as he is not constitutionally the president.

Another look at Obama's Social Security number

Excerpt:  This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world's best-known Social Security number – ###-##-####.

"All I can say," says Daniels of ###-##-####, "is that it's phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his Selective Service document in 1980."
Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama's, ###-##-####. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age 19, which is why his information is available.

Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn 16 in August of that year. Wood lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Conn., the state from which all "042s" applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.

Full article---
http://biglicknews.blogspot.com/2011/03/obama-is-illegal-alien-using-deceased.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 04, 2011, 02:08:35 pm
States should pass laws requiring presidential candidates must submit their citizenship documents each time they run for office.

But the big problem is the political parties and how they submit candidates claiming "We checked him out he's good!", so really, the party heads are just as responsible for this scam as anyone.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 04, 2011, 02:37:44 pm
States should pass laws requiring presidential candidates must submit their citizenship documents each time they run for office.

But the big problem is the political parties and how they submit candidates claiming "We checked him out he's good!", so really, the party heads are just as responsible for this scam as anyone.

That is why exposing who Obama really is, by revealing his true documentation, exposes the whole corrupt 2 party system and all those that knew, but went along. The whole system sham is out in the open.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 04, 2011, 03:25:28 pm
Anyone catch 30 Rock this past week ??  Normally I don't watch it but this week I thought I woud see what it was about.

Alec Baldwin and his wife on the show were visiting Canada.  Alec's wife was pregnant with a child about due.  They had just checked into their hotel in Cananda when the contractions were getting closer.  Alec and his wife wants their baby girl to be President.  To be President a baby must be natural born in America.  So the whole rest of the show was them leaving Canada and driving to New York State so their child could be natural born.  The wife joked... "If this were Kenya this wouldn't even be an issue."  the audience laughed.

I wonder if Ed Schultz watched this episode.  He's the epitome of an Obamaphile.
Title: TRUMP sends investigator to Hawaii for Soetoro's BC
Post by: Protean on April 07, 2011, 12:14:05 pm
Glad to see RT following this story.

Trump sends investigators to Hawaii over Obama birth certificate

http://rt.com/usa/news/trump-hawaii-obama-birth-certificate/

07 April, 2011,
Active birther and Republican presidential contender Donald Trump believes so passionately that US President Barack Obama was not born in the US, he has sent private investigators to Hawaii to look into the matter.

The Tea Party favorite said he hopes to uncover “one of the greatest cons in the history of politics and beyond.”

"I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding," Trump said. “He spent $2 million in legal fees trying on to get away from this issue, and if it weren't an issue, why wouldn't he just solve it?"

In the United States one cannot be President unless they were born on US soil. Trump contended Obama has yet to prove his birth location.

A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll indicated 72 percent of Americans believe Obama was either definitely or probably born in the US.

“I have real doubts,” Trump said.

Whole Enchilada here:
http://rt.com/usa/news/trump-hawaii-obama-birth-certificate/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: egypt on April 07, 2011, 12:37:39 pm
It's about publicity and gaining support in voters for his presidential campaign.

Love, e
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 07, 2011, 12:43:23 pm
It's about publicity and gaining support in voters for his presidential campaign.

Love, e

As Webster Tarpley says "Gold is where you find it." and "Even evil people can do good."

If Trump is associating himself with the infiltrated Tea Party--THEN he is barking up the wrong trouser leg--they are not interested in his Soetoro's BC, Rev.Manning has pointed this out--

What Kind of Fool Are White People?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKywMdzdUkE

So Trump may get votes from others than the Tea Party hacks.
Title: Trump: Obama May Be Greatest Scam In American History
Post by: Protean on April 07, 2011, 05:00:02 pm
Video: Donald Trump On Today Show:
I Have Investigators On The Ground in Hawaii And They Cannot Believe What They’re Finding;
Obama May Be Greatest Scam In American History... The segment aired on 4/7/2011....

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/donald-trump-on-today-show.html

************


Video: Donald Trump appeared on CNN today and slammed them for not fully investigating Obama's past;
The segment aired on 4/7/2011.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/donald-trump-slams-cnn-during-interview.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on April 07, 2011, 06:40:08 pm


Wow ... Trump (despite THAT hair) is coming off as
a REAL truther in these interviews ... hmmm.
I don't dislike him near as much now.  :)

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rex on April 07, 2011, 07:17:41 pm
Trump's "issues" have been carefully selected to bleed support away from Ron Paul.  "Birthers" and "Truthers" are supposed to give him some credence now, but he's just playing a part.  He's a whore.  Always has been, always will be.  Don't support him now if you want Ron Paul later.

Anyway, I don't know if anyone here ever addressed the state official in Hawaii who said Obama's birth certificate was on file when this issue first came up.  Dr. Chiyome Fukino.  Head of the Hawaii Department of Health.  She's the one who's supposedly "seen the actual birth certificate."  But she also declared Waikiki beach to be safe after a HUGE sewage spill in 2006 (google it).  Had to keep those tourist dollars coming in.  Not exactly a sterling witness, if she was willing to let people swim in crap.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on April 07, 2011, 07:24:30 pm
^ ^ ^


Yep ... he never in any way will be able to hold a candle to Ron Paul ...
just sayin' ...

I didn't know RP had come out as a birther though ...

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rex on April 07, 2011, 07:37:17 pm
No, Ron Paul won't take a hard stance on 9/11, but many of his supporters do.

Trump's doing the same job Ross Perot did.  He's drawing the malcontent vote.

Man, what a sad sign of the times.  At least Ross Perot wasn't a PAINTED whore.  He had a shred of modesty.

I think one of the reasons they pimped Trump out front and center so early was to discourage other wannabes.  I mean, if you jump on the Birther bandwagon now, you'll be associated with bad hair.  Really.  It's as simple as that.  That's how childlike most American voters have become.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 08, 2011, 10:31:35 am
^ ^ ^


Yep ... he never in any way will be able to hold a candle to Ron Paul ...
just sayin' ...

I didn't know RP had come out as a birther though ...



Not that I have heard/or read--RP stays away from the 2 issues that could topple the current NWO game:
1. 911 Truth
2. Revealing Obama's Sealed Records
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: kerrymti on April 08, 2011, 01:40:28 pm
bump
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 08, 2011, 04:06:58 pm
That and the world-wide spite towards the banksters will help out too.   ;)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 10, 2011, 04:45:24 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/opinion/lweb08trump.html?_r=4

or

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/new-york-times-columnist-gail-collins.html

Donald Trump Responds


Letter

Published: April 8, 2011

To the Editor:

Re “Donald Trump Gets Weirder,” by Gail Collins (column, April 2):

Even before Gail Collins was with the New York Times, she has written nasty and derogatory articles about me.  Actually, I have great respect for Ms. Collins in that she has survived so long with so little talent. Her storytelling ability and word usage (coming from me, who has written many bestsellers), is not at a very high level. More importantly, her facts are wrong!

As far as her comments on the so-called “birther” issue, I don't need Ms. Collins's advice. There is a very large segment of our society who believe that Barack Obama, indeed, was not born in the United States. His grandmother from Kenya stated, on tape, that he was born in Kenya and she was there to watch the birth. His family in Honolulu is fighting over which hospital in Hawaii he was born in-they just don't know.

He has not been able to produce a “birth certificate” but merely a totally unsigned “certificate of live birth”-which is totally different and of very little significance. Unlike a birth certificate, a certificate of live birth is very easy to obtain. Equally of importance, there are no records in Hawaii that a Barack Hussein Obama was born there-no bills, no doctors names, no nurses names, no registrations, no payments, etc. As far as the two notices placed in newspapers, many things could have happened, but some feel the grandparents put an ad in order to show that he was a citizen of the U.S. with all of the benefits thereto. Everybody, after all, and especially then, wanted to be a United States citizen.

The term used by Ms. Collins-“birther”-is very derogatory and is meant in a derogatory way. Had this been George Bush or almost any other President or Presidential aspirant, they would never have been allowed to attain office, or would have been thrown out of office very quickly.

For some reason, the press protects President Obama beyond anything or anyone I have ever seen. What they don't realize is that if he was not born in the United States, they would have uncovered the greatest "scam" in the history of our country. In other words, they would become the hottest writer since Watergate, or beyond.

Open your eyes, Gail, there's at least a good chance that Barack Hussein Obama has made mincemeat out of our great and cherished Constitution!

DONALD J. TRUMP
New York, April 7, 2011

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/opinion/lweb08trump.html?_r=4

or

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/new-york-times-columnist-gail-collins.html


Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 11, 2011, 12:25:13 pm
The funny thing about all this is that it was all started by a constitutionalist Democrat.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 11, 2011, 12:31:34 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/obama-fires-4-qassam-rockets-at-trump.html

Obama Fires 4 Qassam Rockets At Trump But Failed To Hit Target: Trump Fires Back & Strikes Oval Office Squatter;
Hawaii Caught In Another Lie


It is sort of fun to sit back and watch Team Obama implode. I think they made a mistake when they thought they could silence Donald Trump with their outdated tactics they've been employing on average citizens over the last 3 years. Boy, were they wrong!?  Team Obama employed the usual group of Obama eligibility obfuscators and known supporters and even an employer. The first shot was by Factcheck.org on Saturday, who I  might add is funded by the same org that employed Obama and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers,  posting a regurgitated, left-wing, talking point memo on Obama's eligibility telling Trump he was fired. The second shot was by Senior Obama Advisor David Plouffe on ABC News using the only tactics they have, attack and ridicule. The third and fourth shot were fired from Hawaii, Obama's purported place of birth. Former head of the Hawaii DOH and Obama enabler Chiyome Fukino laughed off the issue and provided even more "details" of her sighting of the infamous long-form,,, via MSNBC:


    -The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

    Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time." -Source.


E. Pluribus Unum at Free Republic sums it up pretty good, below, but, according to Hawaii Governor Neil Abercommie , only a handwritten notation was found on file and no hospital-generated birth certificate or hospital records exists for Obama... They need to release whatever it is they have on file, RELEASE THE NAPKIN. One guess of mine and others it could have something to do with his alias/adopted name Barry Soetoro, Soebarkah and the Hawaii DOH and many others are continuing the aiding in Obama's criminal activities... We already know he lied on his law license application claiming he never used any aliases when in fact he did, and, not to mention his selective service registration and the social security number problem. And the infamous John Brennan passport records breach scandal. Just imagine if Obama had an "R" after his name...

Whole enchilada--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/obama-fires-4-qassam-rockets-at-trump.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 12, 2011, 10:35:24 am
Video: Donald Trump Takes On Fox's Greta Van Susteren:
JUST SHOW US THE PROOF!
Maya Soetoro Defends Brother Obama's Birth Story


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/trump-takes-on-foxs-greta-just-show-us.html

The more these media shills try to spin and cover this up, the more obvious it becomes--Soetoro (Mr. Transparency) is hiding something!

Unseal Obama/Soetoro/Dunham's records and let's find out WHO he REALLY is.


The topic will be Hawaii official's lies, intransigence, parsing, and obfuscations as regards their statements about Obama's original vital records allegedly held in their system. Obama's use of a Connecticut SSN issued in 1977 while Obama was never legally domiciled in CT in 1977 (or ever lived there) will also be discussed. In addition they will discuss the lack of constitutional eligibility of the putative president Obama and Obama's unwillingness to provide any hard evidence and certified copy paper documents to controlling legal authorities to back up his "nativity story" and claim of a Hawaiian birth. Factual and legal issues will be discussed. Obama was born to a British Subject foreign national father and Obama himself was thus a British Subject at birth. Obama is not a "natural born Citizen" as is required by the U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 1 for that reason since his father was not a U.S. Citizen, not even an immigrant to the USA, nor even a permanent resident. Obama's birth may have been registered in Hawaii but with the contrary statements coming out of Kenya, and in past years before he ran for President such as these, it is likely that he was not physically born in Hawaii but only falsely registered there as being born in Hawaii by his maternal grandmother after the fact to get her new foreign born grandson U.S. Citizenship using a simple mail-in form available back in Hawaii in 1961. The false registration of his birth would account for the short-form certification of live birth record and the 1961 newspaper accounts of the birth being registered with the Hawaiian Health Department which placed those public service announcements in the weekly papers for all birth registered, real or falsified. See Atty Mario Apuzzo's "Catalog of Evidence" for and against Obama's claimed Hawaiian birth nativity story.

Whole enchilada--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/trump-takes-on-foxs-greta-just-show-us.html

Trump is doing a great job on this issue---BUT, there are as big (or bigger) points to be brought up--


1. CIA employment --running money to the Mujahideen in the early 80s when he was supposed to be attending Columbia University, then being awarded a degree as a CIA legend cover story for this time.

2. Passport records scrubbed, then the person who scrubbed them was killed.

3. The Donald Young (alleged lover of Obama)  murder in Chicago.

4. Drug use witnessed by Larry Sinclair

5. Occidental College records - possible foreign student funding on his Indonesian passport.

6. If Obama became an Indonesian citizen as a child--where are his naturalization papers to become an American citizen? He may not have any--MEANING he is an illegal alien, could not legally be a US. Senator, let alone President.

7. Multiple Social Security numbers.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 13, 2011, 10:34:47 am
Video: Bill O'Reilly Admits Obama Didn't Release His Birth Certificate;
Protects Him On Other Hidden Records; Flat Out Lies To His Viewers


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/oreilly-admits-obama-didnt-release.html

Video: FOX News' Bill O'Reilly failed to report on Obama's selective service card as was advertised on Fox News but he did touch on some of the other hidden Obama records. O'Reilly finally admitted after nearly 3 years of lying that Obama has not released a birth certificate. He also said his investigation found Obama was born at a hospital in Hawaii but fails to provide any evidence to back up his theory. He then brings up Michelle Obama's "court ordered inactive" law license but fails to mention it is court ordered inactive. I guess the spin doesn't stop there!? The video below is my debunked version of the O'Reilly segment which aired on 4/12/2011...

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/oreilly-admits-obama-didnt-release.html

The unedited version of Bill O'Reilly's 4/12 segment of lies can be viewed here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk0-xAuGJB8
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 13, 2011, 12:55:40 pm
Yeah, I watched his talking points, then turned the channel. I was a bit surprised when he did admit no birth certificate has been released. Baby steps I guess!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 14, 2011, 10:54:22 am
Point by point analysis by Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/attorney-apuzzo-analysis-of-current.html

Attorney Apuzzo: An Analysis of the Current Revelations of Hawaii’s Dr. Chiyome Fukino
to NBC News Regarding Obama’s Place of Birth


By Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
April 12, 2011

Recently we saw an article appear at msnbc.com written by Michael Isikoff, National investigative correspondent for NBC News. The article is dated April 10, 2011, and is entitled, “Ex-Hawaii Official Denounces ‘Ludicrous’ Birther Claims.” It can be read at:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics#

I will now analyze the many problems that exist with this “investigative” story. My criticisms are directed at both Dr. Fukino and Mr. Isikoff.

The article states:

"The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is 'real' and denounced 'conspiracy theorists' in the so-called 'birther' movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

'It’s kind of ludicrous at this point,' Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump's statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.

All--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/attorney-apuzzo-analysis-of-current.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 14, 2011, 02:05:17 pm
This just keeps getting more and more suspect! Talk about officials scrambling...(somebody gots some 'splainin' to do!)

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/12/breaking-from-hawaii-no-more-long-form-birth-certificates/ (http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/12/breaking-from-hawaii-no-more-long-form-birth-certificates/)

Quote
Update: Breaking from Hawaii: No More Long-Form Birth Certificates!

HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH MAKES UP THE RULES AS IT GOES ALONG…TO PRISON?
by Sharon Rondeau


What is the Hawaii Department of Health hiding? Have they told so many lies that they are now cornered?

(Apr. 12, 2011) — Miki Booth has just reported via telephone to The Post & Email that a man born and currently residing in Hawaii went to the Department of Health this morning and requested a copy of his long-form birth certificate.  He was refused, told that it was no longer available and that all he could obtain is the short-form document.

The man had obtained his short-form “Certificate of Live Birth” several weeks ago and reported to Miki that the request form had had two different boxes which could be checked:  one indicating that the short-form was being requested and the other that the long-form was desired.

Today, the man reported that the form has been changed such that that choice is no longer available.

The Hawaii Department of Health’s online request form for a birth certificate is here.

The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands appears to be lying when it announced that it began “accepting” a “Certification of Live Birth” as proof of genealogy in 2009.  It claimed that “When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.”  However, the documents which both the man and another requester in Hawaii have obtained this year, after the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands changed its policy, bear the label “Certificate of Live Birth.”

Directly preceding the claim that the “Certification” is the document now issued, the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands stated that “original birth certificates are preferred for their greater detail…”  How can a person provide the “preferred” document when the department claimed that it no longer issued them?  It has been proven that the Hawaii Department of Health did issue long-form Certificates of Live Birth until Dr. Fukino made her statement to MSNBC.

The short-form document which the man received was labeled “Certificate of Live Birth,” unlike Obama’s purported form which is a “Certification of Live Birth.”  Likewise, Miki Booth’s son, Alan, had received a short-form birth certificate last year which entitled “Certificate of Live Birth.”  The man who obtained his short-form document said that it does not contain the fields for “Father’s Place of Birth” and “Mother’s Place of Birth” as Alan Booth’s does.

Could that be because Obama’s Certification of Live Birth image does not contain those fields, and the Hawaii Department of Health is attempting to legitimize it?

Therefore, when Dr. Chiyome Fukino spoke with MSNBC on Monday morning, she apparently was not lying when she said that long-form birth certificates are no longer available.

But why was that change made?  Who ordered the change in policy?  Was it made because Donald Trump has demanded that Obama release his original, detailed birth certificate to support his claim of a Hawaii birth?

The witness who accompanied the gentleman has a daughter who obtained a copy of her long-form birth certificate last month.  The document was provided to Miki Booth, who supplied it to The Post & Email here.  Booth has reported that the woman has Fed-Exxed the original of the document to her.

On April 11, 2011, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, former director of the Hawaii Department of Health, told MSNBC that long-form birth certificates were no longer available.  But when did that become policy?  Who ordered this change in policy since at least one such form was issued to a requester last month and posted here?

2:47 p.m. EDT:  The Post & Email has left a message with Dr. Alvin Onaka, Registrar of Vital Statistics at the Hawaii Department of Health, requesting the documentation making long-form birth certificates unavailable to those born in the state.  We also contacted Gov. Neil Abercrombie’s office and asked the secretary why suddenly Hawaii residents can no longer have access to their original birth record.  She asked this writer my name and where I was calling from, which I gave her.  She then interrupted me and transferred me to the governor’s spokesperson, Ms. Donalyn Delacruz, with whom we left a voice message with our phone number and email address.

While Dr. Fukino claimed in her interview with MSNBC that she has seen Obama’s original vital record, Gov. Abercrombie has stated that one does not exist.  Why was Fukino inspecting Obama’s alleged record if it is against the law and the document doesn’t exist?  Or did it exist when she was Health Department Director and now it has disappeared since Abercrombie took office?

Last night, Donald Trump was interviewed by Greta Van Susteren and said, “If he (Obama) had a birth certificate, I think he’d produce it.”

Obama adviser David Plouffe called Trump’s questioning of the existence of Obama’s birth certificate “a sideshow.”

What are the Hawaii officials hiding, why, and how many will pay a price?  What is Obama hiding?
(cont.)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 14, 2011, 04:02:09 pm
Let's not forget folks that his Birth Certificate has already been released in Kenya.

Barrack H. Obama - Born in Kenya - The Real Birth Certificate AT LAST!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI


So all this sideshow stuff may be another CFR-media news/soap opera concoction.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 14, 2011, 04:49:41 pm
The problem with that video is that the blond lady in the video is I believe Orly Taitz, a lawyer that has done little to lend credibility to the situation. Basically she's been acting like a nutcase to be honest.

What we need is proof they have verified that document real. I haven't seen anything yet, just their claim. Have the notary on the document been verified? Has the hospital verified it issues birth certificates like that? Seeing Kenya is called a British protecorate at that time, I'd imagine some Brits would need to be contacted about the seal on the document, etc.

Somebody holding up a paper isn't proof of anything other than they are holding up something. This is such a serious situation constitutionally, there is no room for games or lack of effort by those who insist on proving Obama is a fraud. Basically, it should be treated as a criminal investigation.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 14, 2011, 05:21:17 pm
The FOOTPRINT can't be verified ?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on April 14, 2011, 05:24:18 pm
The FOOTPRINT can't be verified ?

If a Fed Judge orders him to give a print ... not likely to happen.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 14, 2011, 05:24:46 pm
Good question. I noticed that in the video calling it "biometric". I got a chuckle out of that. How you going to verify that foot print? It's only good for the first few years really till the person is too big. I'm no expert on footprints, but seems like a dead end. Other things can be verified for sure.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 14, 2011, 05:43:13 pm
A foorprint is like a finger print, it follows you throughout life unless they are cut or alterned by burning.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 14, 2011, 05:45:35 pm
Hmm, well, good luck getting Mack Daddy to kick off a loafer.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 14, 2011, 05:51:13 pm
If Obama wants to disprove it then let him.  The burden of proof is on him.

So far too many sources have been cited as to his Kenyan Birth.

Any normal person can get their BC in 2-3 weeks for $45.

Why Barry can't is because it doesn't exist in the first place.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 15, 2011, 05:38:15 am
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/15/arizona-legislature-oks-presidential-birther/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/15/arizona-legislature-oks-presidential-birther/)

Quote
Arizona Legislature OKs Presidential 'Birther' Bill

PHOENIX -- The Arizona Legislature gave final approval late Thursday night to a proposal that would require President Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens before their names can appear on the state's ballot.

Arizona would become the first state to require such proof if Gov. Jan Brewer signs the measure into law.

Republican Rep. Carl Seel of Phoenix, the author of the bill, said the bill wasn't about opposition to Obama. "This bill is about the integrity of our elections," Seel said.

(cont.)

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Dok on April 15, 2011, 12:25:46 pm
O'Reilly falsely claims Conn. was residence for Obama Sr.
Fox News host tries to explain anomaly in president's Social Security number


In an attempt to explain why Barack Obama, who lived in Hawaii as a teen, has a Social Security number that indicates he had a Connecticut address, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly asserted the president's father lived in the state.

But there is no evidence that Barack Obama Sr., who left Hawaii in 1962 to study at Harvard in Massachusetts and then returned to his home country of Kenya, ever lived in Connecticut.

The controversy over Obama's Social Security number traces back to a WND story May 11, 2010, reporting that two private investigators working independently were asking why Obama was using a number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.

The records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, when Obama was between 16 and 18 years old and living in Hawaii.

In his viewer email segment Wednesday night, O'Reilly was asked: "What about Obama's Connecticut Social Security card? He never lived there."

O'Reilly responded: "Obama's father lived in Connecticut for several years, and sometimes the child gets the Social Security number based on the father's address."

The Social Security website confirms that the first three digits in Obama's Social Security number are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.

Since 1973, Social Security numbers have been issued by one central office, and the first three digits of a person's Social Security number have been determined by the Zip code of the mailing address on the application.

(Story continues below)

Read more: O'Reilly falsely claims Conn. was residence for Obama Sr. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=287253#ixzz1Jc6wQfn5
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 15, 2011, 03:52:12 pm
Bill'O strikes again. It's enough Bill! You convinved us your an idiot long ago!

While a parent can apply for their childs SSN in whatever state the parent resides, and as such the number will be from that state, regardless of where the child was born or lives, the parent must first live in the state when applying for the number! You can't be living in Boston and get a number for Connecticut. Unless of course your a government operative, like with the CIA, and they only do that to what? Hide their true identity. Hmm, I think we are seeing the proverbial corner and Obama is quickly backing right into it.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Dok on April 16, 2011, 09:33:42 am
O'Reilly falsely claims Conn. was residence for Obama Sr.
Fox News host tries to explain anomaly in president's Social Security number


In an attempt to explain why Barack Obama, who lived in Hawaii as a teen, has a Social Security number that indicates he had a Connecticut address, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly asserted the president's father lived in the state.

But there is no evidence that Barack Obama Sr., who left Hawaii in 1962 to study at Harvard in Massachusetts and then returned to his home country of Kenya, ever lived in Connecticut.

The controversy over Obama's Social Security number traces back to a WND story May 11, 2010, reporting that two private investigators working independently were asking why Obama was using a number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.

The records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, when Obama was between 16 and 18 years old and living in Hawaii.

In his viewer email segment Wednesday night, O'Reilly was asked: "What about Obama's Connecticut Social Security card? He never lived there."

O'Reilly responded: "Obama's father lived in Connecticut for several years, and sometimes the child gets the Social Security number based on the father's address."

The Social Security website confirms that the first three digits in Obama's Social Security number are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.

Since 1973, Social Security numbers have been issued by one central office, and the first three digits of a person's Social Security number have been determined by the Zip code of the mailing address on the application.

(Story continues below)

Read more: O'Reilly falsely claims Conn. was residence for Obama Sr. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=287253#ixzz1Jc6wQfn5


Social Security claim vanishes from O'Reilly podcast
Fox host said Obama's Connecticut number resulted from father living there


 :o  :o  :o  :o

Since Fox News host Bill O'Reilly erroneously claimed President Obama's Connecticut-issued Social Security number was likely the result of his father having "lived in Connecticut for several years," the cable news giant has apparently scrubbed the audio of the statement from its website.

In his viewer email segment Wednesday night, O'Reilly was asked by viewer John  Knox of Arlington, Va.: "What about Obama having a Connecticut Social Security number? He never lived there."

"His father lived in Connecticut for several years," O'Reilly answered, adding that "babies sometimes get numbers based on addresses provided by their parents."

Another letter from Fox viewer Ken McFadden of LaGrange, Ga., asked: "O'Reilly, will you stake your professional reputation that Mr. Obama is constitutionally eligible to be president?"

"I will, Ken," answered O'Reilly. 

But those questions and answers did not appear on a Fox News website podcast of the episode purchased, downloaded and audited by WND. In addition, a printed version of the question-and-answer exchange, above, on BillOReilly.com, a separate site, also left out the key question about Connecticut.

The Fox audio podcast had O'Reilly doing the "Factor Mail" segment, starting with a question from Marion Rauch, Ocala., Fla.: "O'Reilly, well I am so glad you cleared up the myths surrounding President Obama. Come on, Bill, give us the facts, not opinion."

He responded, "Gave you the facts, Marion. Stand by all of 'em. If you have evidence to the contrary, please pass it along. You got the facts."

Following a "bump" in the audio, he then moves immediately into "Pinheads and Patriots."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJYMbnpr3is&feature=player_embedded

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=287817

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Dok on April 17, 2011, 03:33:44 am
First O'Reilly, now CNN,

CNN's John King shuts down Taitz
Attempt to describe Obama's Connecticut Social Security number ends conversation


Video: Attorney Orly Taitz should be given a medal for her non-stop efforts to expose the big fat fraud squatting in the White House. Taitz appeared on CNN's John King (no different than O'Reilly) show where they tried to make the Arizona proof of eligibility law about race. She then brought up Obama's Social Security number and Selective Service registration and all hell broke loose. The segment aired 4/15/2011. Hat tip to Mediaite for the clip. (see how easy that is, Mediaite?) P.S., go here for a full explanation from Atty Taitz on Obama's SS#.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/orly-taitz-shouted-down-on-cnn-trying.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 17, 2011, 07:30:57 am
Notice in that video King helg up what he called "certificate". That is a lie what he said, because what Obama presented was not a "certificate", but a "certification" of live birth, which is a "short-form document. Now they are spinning it by calling the document something it is not. Did King misspeak? Uh, I don't think so. I think he intentionally called it a certificate, which is the "long-form", when it is really a short-form certification document.

And yes, a CNN employee, King, did make the discussion about race. I thought news channels were objective, but then that show isn't news, it's editorial masquerading as news!  ::)

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 19, 2011, 06:09:58 am
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/18/arizona-gov-brewer-vetoes-require-presidential-candidates-prove-citizenship/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/18/arizona-gov-brewer-vetoes-require-presidential-candidates-prove-citizenship/?test=latestnews)

I'm not suprised...

Quote
Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Bill to Require Presidential Candidates to Prove Citizenship

Published April 18, 2011
| Associated Press

PHOENIX -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer on Monday vetoed a bill that would have required President Obama and other presidential candidates to prove their U.S. citizenship before their names could appear on the state's ballot.

The bill would have made Arizona the first state to pass such a requirement. Opponents had warned the bill would give another black eye to Arizona after last year's controversy over the state's illegal immigration enforcement law.

Brewer said in her veto letter that she was troubled that the bill empowered Arizona's secretary of state to judge the qualifications of all candidates when they file to run for office.

"I do not support designating one person as the gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate, which could lead to arbitrary or politically motivated decisions," said Brewer, who was secretary of state until she became governor in 2009.

"In addition, I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for president of the greatest and most powerful nation on Earth to submit their 'early baptismal circumcision certificates' among other records to the Arizona secretary of state," she said. "This is a bridge too far." (cont.)

Related Links
Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Bill to Allow Guns on Public College Campuses
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Dok on April 19, 2011, 07:07:03 am
Quote
"I do not support designating one person as the gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate, which could lead to arbitrary or politically motivated decisions,"

Hey, "The Constitution is just a piece of paper" its not like its the Law of the Land or anything.  ::)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 19, 2011, 12:28:40 pm
Yeah, and how about the contradiction of her statement, that she doesn't like the idea of one person making a decision, when she was the one person that put a stop to the bill!  ::)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 19, 2011, 12:56:16 pm
Trump Blasts ABC News: Obama And His Minions' Have Co-Opted You;
I'll Release My Tax Returns When Obama Releases His Birth Certificate


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/trump-blasts-abc-news-obama-and-his.html

^^^^^^
Video: Donald Trump Blasts ABC News' George Stephanopoulos: Obama And His Minions' Have Co-Opted You; I'll Release My Tax Returns When Obama Releases His Birth Certificate - The Segment Aired 4/19/2011...

Note To Stephanopoulos: The State Department website clearly states; "Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes."...

Via New York Daily News: Donald Trump: I'll release my tax returns if President Obama shows his birth certificate

Donald Trump has a deal for the President: He'll release his tax returns if Obama releases his birth certificate.

The billionaire businessman and aspiring presidential candidate laid out the conditions for his financial records disclosure Tuesday.

"Maybe I'm going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate … I'd love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama's birth certificate," he told ABC News' George Stephanopoulos.

Obama revealed Monday that the First Family shelled out $453,770 to the IRS for 2010.

Presidents and potential candidates traditionally reveal how much they pay in taxes, but it's not a requirement. It's unclear just how much Trump - who has been bragging about his personal fortune in recent weeks - is worth.

Trump, who's at the head of the birther chorus, has seen a spike in recent polls. He repeated his doubts that Obama was born in the U.S., a claim that Stephanopoulos immediately blasted.

Video on page---
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/trump-blasts-abc-news-obama-and-his.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Dok on April 20, 2011, 10:18:09 am
BOOK TO REVEAL OBAMA'S 'TRUE' IDENTITY?
Wed Apr 20 2011 10:35:52 ET

**Exclusive**

This year's high stakes publishing project quietly went to press this week, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

After years of research and digging by the nation's top private investigators, here it comes:

"WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President."

MORE

The street date is a LONG month away, and author Jerome Corsi, the man who torpedoed John Kerry's presidential dreams with SWIFT BOAT, has gone underground and is holding his new findings thisclose.

"It's utterly devastating," reveals a source close to the publisher. "Obama may learn things he didn't even know about himself!"

MORE

Does Corsi definitively declare the location of Obama's birth?

Will the president's attorneys attempt to interfere with the book's distribution? [The publisher vows to vigorously fight any legal action that may be taken.]

Will the book finally -- once and for all -- put an end to the growing controversy?

Or will it just ignite new ones!?

"When Donald Trump said he sent PIs to Hawaii to get to the bottom of all this, he meant this book," declares an insider.

[THE CASE ranked #1,341 on AMAZON's hitparade late Wednesday morning.]

Developing...


http://www.drudgereport.com/flash7.htm
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Satyagraha on April 20, 2011, 10:42:52 am
So Jerome Corsi is ready to publish his newest book, "Where's the Birth Certificate", exposing the fact that Obama is not a native-born citizen.

Jerome's project is backed by Mary Matalin, Republican operative, and wife of Democrat operative James Carville. You could even call them the Left/Right Paradigm Paramours. Battling it out in true dedication and commitment to keeping the audience glued to the events in the gladiator ring: who will win? Who's the tougher gladiator? Will they unleash the tigers? What will the emperor say? Thumbs up or thumbs down?

And in rides Jerome Corsi with his new book; just in time to be thoroughly demonized by the left (MediaMatters/Soros is already on this case), and propped up by Matalin and the right (Fox news has already been out there behind Trump and his assertions of Obama's ineligibility). 

As the gladiators get into position, entering this fight which will last until November 2012, the American public better bring some refreshments, pack lunches, it's going to be a very long show.

Lots of 'opinions' to disseminate. Lots of side shows will be offered.

Let the show begin.

=============================================

BOOK TO REVEAL OBAMA'S TRUE IDENTITY?
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash7.htm

Wed Apr 20 2011 10:35:52 ET

**Exclusive**

This year's high stakes publishing project quietly went to press this week, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

After years of research and digging by the nation's top private investigators, here it comes:

"WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President."


The street date is a LONG month away, and author Jerome Corsi, the man who torpedoed John Kerry's presidential dreams with SWIFT BOAT, has gone underground and is holding his new findings thisclose.

"It's utterly devastating," reveals a source close to the publisher. "Obama may learn things he didn't even know about himself!"

Does Corsi definitively declare the location of Obama's birth?

Will the president's attorneys attempt to interfere with the book's distribution? [The publisher vows to vigorously fight any legal action that may be taken.]

Will the book finally -- once and for all -- put an end to the growing controversy?

Or will it just ignite new ones!?

"When Donald Trump said he sent PIs to Hawaii to get to the bottom of all this, he meant this book," declares an insider.

[THE CASE ranked #1,341 on AMAZON's hitparade late Wednesday morning.]

Developing...



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 20, 2011, 10:43:22 am
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/hawaii-governor-abercrombie-slams-trump.html

Video: Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie Slams Trump; Lies Again,
This Time Saying He Saw Baby Obama 3 Days After His Birth


Hawaii governor Neil Abercommie is a bigger liar than Obama AKA Soetoro AKA Soebarkah. Governor Abercrombie now claims he saw baby Obama days after his purported birth in Hawaii. The problem with that claim is Abercrombie told his life-long friend, and journalist, Mike Evans, that he first remembers seeing Obama when Obama was around 6 years old at a T-Ball game.

Funny how all Abercrombie's investigators could find was a hand-written notation on file at the DOH, and no Obama records at any of the hospitals in Hawaii. How many more lies before action is taken!?

(Video on page):
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/hawaii-governor-abercrombie-slams-trump.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 20, 2011, 01:34:46 pm
I wonder if flight records into Oahu could be checked to see if there is a flight from Kenya to Hawaii around the time of birth up to maybe 10 days after. If in fact he wasn't born there, then his mother would have to come from somewhere most likely by plane. I'm sure they didn't have nowhere near as many flights into Honolulu back then as today. And it is reduced further being an international flight so a passport would be involved. A scheduled flight doesn't prove his birth but makes the case it's possible she gave birth then soon after was able to fly to the US. If there was no flights, then that makes it more problematic. But then the CIA has planes too.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 20, 2011, 04:20:28 pm
Interesting Fact...Kenya was a British Protectorate in 1963, and where did William propose to Kate Middleton? On a vacation to...wait for it...Kenya.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: lamourlady on April 21, 2011, 01:48:46 am
Someone hunted this down through an archived site.  Don't know if it's been posted. 

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Sunday, June 27, 2004

Quote
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

Site information at bottom of page:


Quote

Copyright © 2004 . The Standard Ltd

The Standard Ltd
I & M Building, Kenyatta Avenue,
P.O Box 30080, 00100 GPO, Nairobi-Kenya.
Tel. +254 20 3222111, Fax: +254 20 214467, 229218, 218965.
Email: [email protected], [email protected]
News room Tel: +254 20 3222111, Fax: +254 20 213108.
Advertising: [email protected]

Can these sorts of things be concocted, meaning is it for real?  I don't know how the net archives work.  Leave it to you pros. 
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 21, 2011, 12:16:45 pm
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35712

Obama’s ineligibility: The American press has dishonored itself

We now have the media of an one-party state

By Lawrence Sellin  Thursday, April 21, 2011

I was watching ABC’s George Stephanopoulos interviewing Donald Trump about the birth certificate issue.

It struck me how much more Stephanopoulos sounded like an Obama staff member than an independent and objective journalist.

Continuing his crusade to save Obama from the dustbin of history, Stephanopoulos, on Good Morning America, waved a copy of Obama’s alleged Certification of Live Birth at Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN).

He demanded that she renounce her recent heresy of questioning Obama’s eligibility to be President by swearing an oath to the purity of her thoughts in order for her to be considered an acceptable contender for the Republican presidential nomination.
Stephanopoulos is the caricature of a main stream media news anchor

Stephanopoulos is the caricature of a main stream media (MSM) news anchor, who moved seamlessly from being press secretary for the Clinton administration to being the spokesman for left-wing Democrats at ABC news.

Of course, the MSM long ago discarded any pretense of independence and objectivity. They have completely bought into the Obama agenda and they want to protect their investment....

All--
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35712
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: yon on April 21, 2011, 01:38:08 pm
 "First they ignore you; then they laugh at you; then they attack you; then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi ...


 (http://rense.com/1.imagesH/birt_dees.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: yon on April 21, 2011, 04:48:30 pm
I'd like to hear the one-party state media ask Barry what has changed since his election promising "change."
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 22, 2011, 10:58:19 am
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=9058&catid=942

Is Barack Obama AKA Barry Soetoro?

Published on April 14, 2011

by Tom McGregor
(OfficialWire)
WASHINGTON, D.C. (USA)

The Dallas Blog has just received an email from a reliable source in Texas, who said he received an interesting e-mail from a former U.S. Naval officer, who obtained a fascinating letter from an I.R.S. examiner who contends that Mr. Obama’s real name is Barry Soetoro, according to alleged Top-Secret tax records.

My reliable Texas source explained that he’s not certain if it’s true, but the letter also provides a link to Obama or Soetoro’s selective service registration information, which looks highly-suspicious.
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-chief-falsify-selective-service-registration-never-actually-register-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-questions/

Well, let the fun start and see if these allegations are true. Here’s a copy-and-paste of the letter from the IRS examiner:

Trump is right, Barry Soetoro, AKA Obama is hiding what appears to be a criminal past.

Trump is correct, Barry Soetoro, AKA Obama is hiding something in his past that is very bad... and it may not be his citizenship. (Trump would not say this if he did not know something and he has the money to get the dirt...)

As an IRS tax examiner,one of many former federal jobs, I have seen what it appears Barry Soetoro has done, mostly by illegal aliens attempting to acquire a new identity in the U.S and/or criminals looking to acquire a new ID.


Barry, AKA Obama, was lawfully adopted by a foreign national, Lolo Soetoro, and Barry's name was legally changed to "Barry Soetoro". (Barry’s own admission) Barry Soetoro was also made an official legal Indonesian citizen. (again Barry’s own admission) The adoption would be noted in Barry's vital statistics record in Hawaii on his original birth certificate...

OR Lolo Soetoro may have always been Barry's legal birth farther. The public does not know for sure at this point who Barry's father really was and Barry himself may not know.

Barry was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia and attended a Catholic funded school that permitted all faiths to attend.

Barry's mother dropped him as a dependent for some reason, maybe even when Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. His mother's passport records dropped Barry as a dependent indicating Barry was no longer a legal dependent of his mothers. (The passport records of his mother have been produced showing Barry was no longer a dependent when Barry was permanently residing in Indonesia.) Barry went to Hawaii to live with his alleged grand parents after Lolo Soetoro and Barry's mother divorced.

A "certificate of live birth" can have names changed on it including a child's birth name, and birth parent’s names. Even a modified date of birth can be on a "certificate of live birth". This occurs frequently for adopted children where the birth parent does not want the child to know who they are. The public has no idea who Barry’s real birth father is or who Barry’s real birth mother is. (Barry could have been adopted by his mother) The original birth certificate is the only legal vital statistics record of a person’s birth parents, birth location, birth date, etc… I can get a “certificate of live birth” for a dead person; I cannot get a birth certificate of a dead person without “Deceased” on it. (I’ve tried)

There is no evidence Barry Soetoro ever lawfully changed his name to “Barrack Hussein Obama”.

All---
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=9058&catid=942

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 22, 2011, 12:50:48 pm
Video: Pat Buchanan Goes Birther On MSNBC And The White House Press Corps...

Watch the journalist Bill Press (I emailed Bill back when Arnie was running for Gov of Cal and asked him WHY he wasn't covering Arnie's connection to Ken Lay and Enron? He replied because he thought the sexual harassment against women accusations more important! Bill Press is either a Team Obama news shill or a lightweight moron on a short leash.)

Video on page--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/pat-buchanan-goes-birther-on-msnbc-and.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 22, 2011, 12:55:39 pm
Video: Donald Trump Takes On CNN Over Obama's Birth Certificate;
Americans Will Be Very Surprised By What I've Found...


Video on page--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/donald-trump-takes-on-cnn-over-obamas.html

Snippet via CNN: TRENDING: Trump says he'll reveal 'interesting things' on Obama

Donald Trump is giving few details about the investigation he claims to have launched in Hawaii to get to the bottom of where President Obama was born, but the business mogul told CNN Thursday Americans will be "very surprised" by what he has found.

"We're looking into it very, very strongly. At a certain point in time I'll be revealing some interesting things," Trump said on CNN's American Morning.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/21/trump-says-hell-reveal-interesting-things-on-obama/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: shipgeek on April 22, 2011, 01:40:54 pm
I wish somebody would come up with the genuine Barry Soetoro birth certificate.

I don't care who it is as long as they find the authentic birth certificate and bring it out to the general public.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 23, 2011, 12:18:39 pm
Ron Paul staying away from the natural/native born Obama/Soetoro Constitutional Requirements issue.

Video: Ron Paul; Obama's Constitutional Eligibility To Be President Is Irrelevant.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/ron-paul-obamas-constitutional.html

No surprise here, Paul does the same thing with 911 Truth.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 23, 2011, 01:20:09 pm
Yep, he's always kept a distance on both topics. Seeing how that has not worked, maybe he needs to step up to the plate and try a new stance.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 25, 2011, 04:00:49 pm
Finally and interview on the MSM where they don't try to attack Trump over the Obama BC issue--

Video: Donald Trump Slams Actor & Obama Campaigner Robert De Niro
Over The Birther Issue; Praises Reverend Franklin Graham


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/trump-slams-robert-de-niro-praises-rev.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 26, 2011, 02:27:02 am
Obama In Kenya: I Am So Proud To Come Back Home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87pXa2pK6sg&feature=player_embedded#at=65
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 26, 2011, 10:16:36 pm
Video: Donald Trump To CNN's Anderson Cooper; Obama's Birth Certificate Is Missing...

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/donald-trump-to-cnns-anderson-cooper.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: ImJustAPatsy on April 26, 2011, 11:39:10 pm
I believe that whether Obama was born in the USA or not, they're using this to their advantage to discredit the Truth movement. Once in Anderson Cooper's expose on the Birth Certificate fiasco he said, "Yeah, but there's people that believe 9/11 didn't happen..." They're linking these two conspiracies so that if anyone has anything to say about 9/11, they can also say, "OH, you're one of those crazy nuts who thinks Obama is a Muslim commie, and UFOs are going to invade!" They always have the same BS talking points they fall back on to discredit anyone that questions Big Brother, and that makes me believe that there is something to this birth certificate issue, that 9/11 Truth is real, and that things like Project Blue Beam, HAARP, and the N.W.O. all exist.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 28, 2011, 06:57:08 am
Treason Complaint against Obama is in the Hands of Two Federal Grand Juries

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/27/treason-complaint-against-obama-is-in-the-hands-of-two-federal-grand-juries/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 28, 2011, 11:00:13 am
MSNBC = over the top propaganda

I'm not an Orly Taitz fan--but, she handles herself very well is this interview/attack.

Attorney Orly Taitz Thrown Off MSNBC For Bringing Up Obama's Social Security Number Reserved For Connecticut Applicants
Video--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/attorney-orly-taitz-thrown-off-msnbc.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: CaveJohnson on April 28, 2011, 02:25:25 pm
People seriously need to get over this. There are real conspiracies out there, this ain't one of them.

I mean people keep saying "OMG NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" when the Constitution says Natural Born OR Citizen, and it doesn't matter anyway. If you're born in a US State or territory to anyone, citizens or not, you are a citizen.

"In a 1829 treatise on the US Constitution William Rawle wrote that "every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."[18] During an 1866 House debate James F. Wilson quoted Rawle's opinion, and also referred to the "general law relating to subjects and citizens recognized by all nations" saying

...and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except it may be that children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments, are native-born citizens of the United States."

So it's a non issue. The Certificate is valid and real. Move on to more important things people.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Letsbereal on April 28, 2011, 03:20:49 pm
1) Heard nobody talking about the strange '1' in '1961' under-left page http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

2) Could it be an altered Long Form Birth Certificate from his sisters ‘Maya Kassandra Soetoro’?

Obama’s Sister Maya Soetoro’s Long Form Vault Birth Certificate From Indonesia, Has Hawaii COLB Just Like Barack http://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/12/29/breaking-obamas-sister-maya-soetoros-long-form-vault-birth-certificate-from-indonesia-has-hawaii-colb-just-like-barack/

'The name identified in artifices on the phony Barack Obama Certificate of Live Birth aka; COLB, is Barack’s sister, Maya Kassandra Soetoro. Discovered by TechDude.'

Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng born August 15, 1970 in Jakarta, Indonesia is the maternal half-sister of Barack Obama http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Soetoro-Ng
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: EvadingGrid on April 28, 2011, 03:25:43 pm

So it's a non issue. The Certificate is valid and real. Move on to more important things people.


So please tell me why it has taken years for him to produce his birth certificate ?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: CaveJohnson on April 28, 2011, 03:31:53 pm
So please tell me why it has taken years for him to produce his birth certificate ?


It didn't, his short form (the one everyone gets when they request it) has been out for years.

Further, he has no obligation or requirement to show you it.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: EvadingGrid on April 28, 2011, 03:42:02 pm
It didn't, his short form (the one everyone gets when they request it) has been out for years.

Further, he has no obligation or requirement to show you it.

Barry Sotero does have to show it if he wants to be called  - President.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Letsbereal on April 28, 2011, 03:46:34 pm
Claim: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original By Israel Insider staff  August 5, 2008
http://israelstreams.com/?israelinsider.html?http://israelinsider.com/Articles1/Politics/13040.htm

Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected.

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Optimus on April 28, 2011, 03:48:42 pm
It didn't, his short form (the one everyone gets when they request it) has been out for years.

Further, he has no obligation or requirement to show you it.

Try and catch up, okay?

The short form has been proven to be incomplete since it has the date registered on it, but does not have a date ACCEPTED by the state of Hawaii.

Soetoro's Certification of Live Birth IS NOT Valid & NEVER Accepted by Hawaii
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=188285.0

As for the long form, it has already been thoroughly debunked as being a complete forgery.

WH publishing of Obama birth certificate raises many more questions than answers
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=206953.0

Obama's new Birth Certificate -- 100% FAKE -- see video
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=207051.0

Layered? If someone can confirm this it would mean it was altered/tampered with!

President Obama's Birth Certificate PDF has "Layers"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgVIei87oFo

http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/president-obamas-birth-certificate-pdf-has-layers/

Video: Proof Obama Birth Certificate a Fraud
http://www.infowars.com/video-proof-obama-birth-certificate-a-fraud/

Infowars.com
April 28, 2011

Closer inspection of the document has prompted more questions than answers. Also see our reports: Does Obama Birth Certificate Number Prove Forgery? and New Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk&feature=player_embedded

Proof Obama's 4/27/11 "Long Form Certificate of Birth" is Forged!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJfdKClbH4
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: EvadingGrid on April 28, 2011, 03:50:15 pm
People seriously need to get over this. There are real conspiracies out there, this ain't one of them.

I mean people keep saying "OMG NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" when the Constitution says Natural Born OR Citizen, and it doesn't matter anyway. If you're born in a US State or territory to anyone, citizens or not, you are a citizen.

"In a 1829 treatise on the US Constitution William Rawle wrote that "every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."[18] During an 1866 House debate James F. Wilson quoted Rawle's opinion, and also referred to the "general law relating to subjects and citizens recognized by all nations" saying

...and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except it may be that children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments, are native-born citizens of the United States."

So it's a non issue. The Certificate is valid and real. Move on to more important things people.



Yes a simple plain citizen could become president without being natural born, but, and its quiet a but...

"How old would they have to be ?"

ROFL
 ;D
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: CaveJohnson on April 28, 2011, 03:51:56 pm
Barry Sotero does have to show it if he wants to be called  - President.


No he doesn't, he has no requirement to show it TO YOU. Nowhere does it say "Show the American Public your birth certificate".
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: EvadingGrid on April 28, 2011, 03:57:58 pm
No he doesn't, he has no requirement to show it TO YOU. Nowhere does it say "Show the American Public your birth certificate".

You've already demonstrated phenominal ignorance of the topic (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=150157.msg1238334#msg1238334), this is getting hilarious.

Where did you collect so much disinfo ?

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Lisbeth on April 28, 2011, 04:05:32 pm
African is not a race - I know this has been pointed out already but someone working in the Birth Records department would know the correct ethnicity. 
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: CaveJohnson on April 28, 2011, 04:14:46 pm
You've already demonstrated phenominal ignorance of the topic (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=150157.msg1238334#msg1238334), this is getting hilarious.

Where did you collect so much disinfo ?



You haven't proven anything I've said wrong, nice try.

Try and catch up, okay?

The short form has been proven to be incomplete since it has the date registered on it, but does not have a date ACCEPTED by the state of Hawaii.

Soetoro's Certification of Live Birth IS NOT Valid & NEVER Accepted by Hawaii
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=188285.0

As for the long form, it has already been thoroughly debunked as being a complete forgery.

WH publishing of Obama birth certificate raises many more questions than answers
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=206953.0

Obama's new Birth Certificate -- 100% FAKE -- see video
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=207051.0


Sorry that's all a crock.

On a comment from the video:

"I am a BFA multimedia designer with 10 years experience. Scanners these days have what's called optical character recognition that separates scans into layers. I also opened this with Illustrator, and it is typical of the usual way that OCR would layer this. It doesn't mean it was a forgery. "

The guy narrating the video admits he barely ever uses Illustrator. So you've got a bunch of dimwits with barely any technical skills commenting on this. Get me an expert to say it's forged and you'll have a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: EvadingGrid on April 28, 2011, 04:19:36 pm
 ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJfdKClbH4
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: EvadingGrid on April 28, 2011, 04:21:10 pm
The guy narrating the video admits he barely ever uses Illustrator. So you've got a bunch of dimwits with barely any technical skills commenting on this. Get me an expert to say it's forged and you'll have a leg to stand on.

Yea...

But wait a minute,

This is coming from you CaveJohnson who seriously thinks a 200+ year old (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=150157.msg1238334#msg1238334) is gonna run for president  ::)

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 28, 2011, 04:29:17 pm
People seriously need to get over this. There are real conspiracies out there, this ain't one of them.

I mean people keep saying "OMG NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" when the Constitution says Natural Born OR Citizen, and it doesn't matter anyway. If you're born in a US State or territory to anyone, citizens or not, you are a citizen.

"In a 1829 treatise on the US Constitution William Rawle wrote that "every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."[18] During an 1866 House debate James F. Wilson quoted Rawle's opinion, and also referred to the "general law relating to subjects and citizens recognized by all nations" saying

...and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except it may be that children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments, are native-born citizens of the United States."

So it's a non issue. The Certificate is valid and real. Move on to more important things people.

Whether this latest release of Obama's Certificate of Live Birth, long form version is real or not, the debate will continue for awhile until the hard copy original is analyzed.

However, the true identity, history, and background of Barry Soetoro/Obama is really what is at the heart of this issue. Some records have been scrubbed (passport), some sealed (college records, hard copy of BC, medical). This President spoke about his administration having transparency. Okay, lets have that transparency.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Optimus on April 28, 2011, 04:35:18 pm
You haven't proven anything I've said wrong, nice try.

Sorry that's all a crock.


Exposing a forgery is a crock but Barry Soetoro presenting a forged birth certificate isn't?

Quote
On a comment from the video:

"I am a BFA multimedia designer with 10 years experience. Scanners these days have what's called optical character recognition that separates scans into layers. I also opened this with Illustrator, and it is typical of the usual way that OCR would layer this. It doesn't mean it was a forgery. "

The guy narrating the video admits he barely ever uses Illustrator. So you've got a bunch of dimwits with barely any technical skills commenting on this. Get me an expert to say it's forged and you'll have a leg to stand on.

You haven't proven the certificate is real, but if you had thoroughly looked at the links I gave you (I seriously doubt you did) it is proven a forgery. For one thing African is not a race and they would not use it to begin with, but Negro or Black was the accepted terms in 1961. Caucasian is a race, but again, they would have used the term "White" more likely for his mother's race. Also the dimwit that forged the certificate should have double checked history since it would be impossible to list his father's birth place as Kenya in 1961 since Kenya never existed until 1963. You can try all you want to debunk the layering, but you can't debunk facts.

Plus the certificate says his father was born in Kenya, East Africa. Kenya was not in existence in 1961 and was only known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". It was not known as "Kenya" until 1963 when it gained it's independence and took it's name from President Kenyatta if my memory of history serves me correctly.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on April 28, 2011, 05:10:06 pm


Question:

Why in Gods's name did they NOT pull the ORIGINAL
piece of paper from the files, call a press conference
and show it to the press? Why did they NOT take a
SIMPLE PICTURE with FILM or a PHOTOSTAT of the
original for release (that's what I have of my birth
certificate) no chance for electronic manipulation.
Good grief! The man is supposedly the LEADER of the
"FREE Frickin' WORLD"! Why all this pussy-footing around
with scanners and photoshop?

Answer:

There is NO ORIGINAL piece of paper!





Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 28, 2011, 06:59:25 pm
Barrack H. Obama - Born in Kenya IV - The Real Birth Certificate AT LAST!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI
 

They had to fake an American one cuz this is the real one.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: morning_joe_sux on April 28, 2011, 07:32:18 pm
Route holy shit man I did not know that about Kenya man! 1963 eh? God the lies. Just never stop. WTF is soetoro thinking with this one??
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: criticalunity on April 28, 2011, 08:04:01 pm
without wanting to contribute to this weird distraction, how in the world this guy got elected without one initially is beyond weirder than weird, but getting to the point:

Alex said that before that people from Africa were called something else BEFORE his birth, may be this, according to http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_Africa_called_before_it_was_Africa ...

Now, I'm wondering when was the date the name we call people from Africa Africans changed? Please provide the proof as well, I need this info for my editor's note on my site, thanks. This would be ULTIMATE proof, because the fact that the layers could have been generated automatically by software enhancement is debunker material, and I only post proof on my site.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Jackson Holly on April 28, 2011, 10:18:25 pm


I remember BLACK POWER and BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL.

But somewhere along the way people started to feel

that to be called Black was a bad thing ... you know,

"white is good, black is evil" and I can see that ...

so African American became dominant ... and then

Asian-American, Jewish-American, Arab-American ...

only I don't remember whites ever being called

European-American, just plain vanilla white ...

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 28, 2011, 10:18:59 pm
http://www.rense.com/general93/rank.htm

World Intel Says Obama 'Birth Certificate' A Rank Forgery
By Wayne Madsen
4-28-11
 
World intelligence agencies: Obama's long form birth certificate a rank forgery
 
From intelligence agencies around the world, the verdict on President Obama's newly-released certificate of live birth from Hawaii is in: the certificate is a rank forgery on the same level as the Niger "yellow cake" uranium and Iraq Oil Ministry forged documents. Intelligence and law enforcement services are experts on fake documents since they have to deal with large numbers of counterfeit documents, such as birth certificates, passports, identity cards and driver's licenses, as well as currency. Intelligence agencies are also experts at forging their own documents for their clandestine agents.
 
Within 24-hours of the release of the long form Certificate of Live Birth on April 27, intelligence agencies from Britain and China to Germany and Russia examined the document and concluded it was a forgery based on the fact that Barack H. Obama Sr.'s race, listed as "African," was a monumental error, considering that not only the United States, but other English-speaking nations described Africans and those of African descent as either "Negroes" or "blacks" in 1961.
 
 (http://www.rense.com/general93/certtt.jpg)
  
Intelligence experts point out that "African" is a major clue indicating a forgery.
 
In 1961, the U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare classified non-Whites, who were not Asian, Eskimo, Aleut, Hawaiian, part-Hawaiian, or other "non-White," as "Negro." The U.S. Census Bureau also used the term "Asian and other Pacific Islander" in 1961, which included Filipino, Hawaiian, and part-Hawaiian. The Census Bureau, like HEW, used the term "Negro" to describe blacks and those of black descent. The term "mulatto," used to describe those of mixed white and black ancestry, ceased being used by the U.S. Census Bureau in 1918.
 
1961 Vital Statistics of the United States;
U. S. Dept. of Health Education, and Welfare;
Public Health Service;
National Center for Health Statistics;
National Vital Statistics Division;
 
Race and color
 
Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
 
The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used.
 
In the United Kingdom, the terms "black" and "Asian" were used in the 1961 census to describe those who were "non-white British" nationals. Barack Obama, Sr., as a citizen of the British Colony of Kenya, would have known that his British racial designation was "black" in 1961. The term "African" was not used as a racial designation in either the colony of Kenya or on the British mainland. In South Africa and other British colonies in Africa, "Coloured" was used to describe those of mixed white-black descent.
 
The consensus among intelligence agency experts is that the Obama long form Certificate of Live Birth was hastily manufactured by an amateur who never thought of using the standard race designation of Negro in Barack Obama, Sr.'s racial designation block on the form either due to ignorance or an attempt to be politically correct in 2011 by refusing to use an accepted term from 1961.
 
The past decade has seen the use of crude forgeries to propel the United States into a war in Iraq (the bogus Niger "yellow cake" uranium documents) and to try to indict various U.S. and foreign politicians and businessmen (the fake Iraq Oil Ministry "Oil-for-Food" documents). The Obama forged Certificate of Live Birth represents yet another attempt to perpetuate a fraud on a grand scale.

http://www.rense.com/general93/rank.htm
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 28, 2011, 11:02:39 pm
Best I've seen so far--

Detailed analysis of Obama's Long Form Certificate of Live Birth

Video on page--

http://thesophic.wordpress.com/birth-certificate-layers/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 29, 2011, 10:44:59 am
Another close up analysis--

Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof
http://youtu.be/7s9StxsFllY
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 29, 2011, 12:17:15 pm
Another Obama BC

(http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/certnew.jpg)

The REAL Obama Certificate...And Why Grandma Died?

http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 29, 2011, 04:24:42 pm
Another close up analysis--

Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof
http://youtu.be/7s9StxsFllY

That is an excellent video showing the issues with the document, but he doesn't even get into the issues with why the left side is different, though he does show what I was talking about the security paper being used as a top layer "frame" over the document.

This guy is correct, when you scan something it asks where and how you want to save it, but it is saved as an image file, whatever type you select. OCR scanning doesn't allow the selection of only some letters in a word that I know of, which the layers show just that as the guy demostrated some text and letters are on a seperate layer.

He's also correct about the difference between a hand-written signature on paper will scan a certain way, but replicating that in a grpahics program is very difficult. I'd say the way to do it would be to create your own custom font so that it has that unevenness to the ink rather than being solid consistantly throughout the letter when created with say the "Line tool".

I use a Wacom tablet quite a bit and can say that even though I hand write something on an image, the "ink" will be solid like the guy showed. Now I could go back over it with either the erasor tool and a little dodge and burn to get that same look of heavy and light areas of ink, but at that low a resolution (really zoomed in where you can see the individual pixels), you'd be working at nearly pixel level and so there's not even enough pixels to really make much difference. You'd literally have to change individual pixels colors, which I have done a few times on a very small number of pixles to improve the transition in some change. It's a technique I call feathering to try to blend to transitions of seperate images put together on one layer. You also then have to consider shading and coloring, etc to get it to come close to making the two areas look as one image.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on April 29, 2011, 05:44:44 pm
This clown is a shill in this article. And of coourse it's from Fox!...(front page of their website)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/)

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Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit

By Jana Winter
Published April 29, 2011
| FoxNews.com
 
Obama's Birth Certificate

The White House has released President Obama's long-form birth certificate, saying the document is "proof positive" the president was born in Hawaii.

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.

And the last statement is one pile of bull excrement. He's playng games with his words. He's not telling the whole story about scanning. He alludes to normal non-OCR scanning, but doesn't talk about that type scanning which most people do rather than OCR. Normal scanning will result in an image that is "flat", or as he calls it "one piece". Sorry, but the guy is being deceptive on purpose. A normal scan can be done and the image saved directly to whatever file type available, and most use jpg if it's the final image, but it could have been saved as not just a pdf or jpg, but several different file types, each with their unique qualities.

It's a personal choice process by the person doing the scanning depending on their graphics needs. I want to hear the reason for ultimately posting it in a pdf format. For this situation which is simply to display, the image could have been saved via jpg for resolution qualities, and then directly posted wherever they wanted. Making a pdf seems like extra work that wasn't needed.

There are aspects of OCR that will produce what they are calling "layers", and the White House graphics team knows it. It's actually a pretty crafty way of trying to disguise the changes. I call it hiding in plain sight.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: ekimdrachir on April 29, 2011, 06:38:16 pm
Obama's birth certificate won't stop birther mendacity
http://www.ctpost.com/default/article/Obama-s-birth-certificate-won-t-stop-birther-1359028.php

My claim to have a master's degree in international relations from the University of Kent at Canterbury shows up in my resume and various bios. It has helped me get speaking gigs and comes in handy as a credential when I'm making some seat-of-the-pants observation about world affairs.

But, if you are one of the many critics who, each day, tell me what an ignoramus I am, you might not believe I have the brains to earn an advanced degree. You might demand proof that I really have it.

Well, I might just tell you it is none of your business. I'd feel no obligation to prove something I know to be true, especially to anyone who starts out by assuming I'm a fool and a fake.

Ah, but what if you found out I was in the United States in 1987, the year I supposedly received my degree from the university in England? Further, what if you discovered I couldn't produce the original degree? That might provide more than enough grist for your ideology-driven grinding mill.

Soon, charges that I doctored my resume might be filling my e-mail and clogging the comments on my blog. Eventually, I would feel compelled to go public. I'd explain that I left the campus in Canterbury at the end of the summer of 1986, therefore pushing my degree award into 1987, and I would display the replacement degree that I obtained after I'd lost the original.

Of course, if you dislike my politics or my drawing style or my red hair, you would ignore such proof. Why accept the actual truth when the lie so nicely bolsters what you want to be true?

And so, the fact that President Obama has finally succumbed to the demands of conspiracy-mongers by obtaining and releasing a copy of his long form birth certificate will not settle the issue of his birthplace in the more paranoid strata of the American electorate. As my friend, veteran journalist Hal Burdett, writes in his Potomac Digest blog, "You can wager the farm, the cow, the pigs, the silo and the outhouse that the lunatic fringe will insist that the document the Obama administration released was an obvious forgery."

I completely understand why, until now, Obama resisted submitting to the demands of the nutcases. It is demeaning and, as Burdett observes, probably futile. But, the constant chorus of crazies has become like a dripping faucet in the night. Somebody needed to get up and try to turn it off.

The good result of Obama's disclosure should be that no Republican official will, any longer, be able to play coy with this issue to appease the full half of their party loyalists who believe the birther fantasies. Nevertheless, making a screeching u-turn on the subject, Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee, had the gall to blame the birther brouhaha on Obama.

"The president ought to spend his time getting serious about repairing our economy," Priebus said. "Unfortunately his campaign politics and talk about birth certificates is distracting him from our No. 1 priority -- our economy."

And speaking of gall, Donald Trump is brazenly claiming credit for pushing Obama to obtain the more detailed birth certificate from state records in Hawaii. In a series of interviews on TV, Trump had given credence and new life to the birthers' wild speculation. Only a person with a huge ego and a tiny capacity for critical thought would claim spreading such lies was a public service. But, then, that describes Trump rather precisely.

While Priebus and Trump proved absurdity is alive and well, satirists at The Onion anticipated the birthers' response to Obama in one of their brilliant and bogus reports:

"In the continuing controversy surrounding the president's U.S. citizenship, a new fringe group informally known as `Afterbirthers' demanded Monday the authentication of Barack Obama's placenta from his time inside his mother's womb."

At least The Onion staffers acknowledge they are making things up. Don't expect such honesty from the man who may be most responsible for generating the birther mania in the first place. Joseph Farah, founder and CEO of World Net Daily told NBC News, "I'm not apologizing for anything."

Farah clings to right wing conspiracy theories dating back to the Clinton presidency. He kick-started the birther bandwagon during the 2008 election and he's about to publish a book titled, "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President." The author of the book, Jerome Corsi, appears to have been the source of Donald Trump's birth certificate musings.

There are already 150,000 advance orders for the book on Amazon.com and the plan is to print as many as a million. With so much at stake, who could expect Farah to back down?

The appalling reality in American politics today is that, when ideology and money mix, truth is a mere inconvenience.

David Horsey is a columnist and cartoonist for Hearst Newspapers.

Read more: http://www.ctpost.com/default/article/Obama-s-birth-certificate-won-t-stop-birther-1359028.php#ixzz1KxTdZhaJ
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on April 30, 2011, 03:25:06 am
Freedom Of Information Act Release about Obama's Father

An INS investigator, M.F. McKeon, wrote “They (Harvard officials) weren’t very impressed with him and asked us to hold up action on his application until they decided what action they could take in order to get rid of him. They were apparently having difficulty with his financial arrangements and couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he had.”

Documents show that Harvard officials considered Obama, Sr. to be a “slippery character,” and conspired with the INS to have him deported.

Inquiries with the White House were not immediately returned.


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/foia-release-reveals-obamas-father-was.html



Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Rebelitarian on April 30, 2011, 01:31:28 pm
Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on April 30, 2011, 10:14:14 pm
Another log on the fire--

Fox Business: New Obama Birth Certificate Raises More Questions;
Prosecutor: Obama’s Birth Certificate Proves Americans Are Powerless


Two video interviews--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/fox-business-new-obama-birth.html

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: jerryweaver on April 30, 2011, 11:50:01 pm
Let's get Henry Kissinger to preside over a Birth Certificate Commission and write a report which we can publish in paper back and put in every book store in America. Here are some good members:

Thomas Kean (Chairman) - Republican, former Governor of New Jersey
Lee H. Hamilton (Vice Chairman) - Democrat, former U.S. Representative from the 9th District of Indiana
Richard Ben-Veniste - Democrat, attorney, former chief of the Watergate Task Force of the Watergate Special Prosecutor's Office
Max Cleland - Democrat, former U.S. Senator from Georgia. Resigned December 2003, stating that "the White House has played cover-up"[9]
Fred F. Fielding - Republican, attorney and former White House Counsel
Jamie Gorelick - Democrat, former Deputy Attorney General in the Clinton Administration
Slade Gorton - Republican, former U.S. Senator from Washington
Bob Kerrey - Democrat, President of the New School University and former U.S. Senator from Nebraska. Replaced Max Cleland as a Democratic Commissioner, after Cleland's resignation.
John F. Lehman - Republican, former Secretary of the Navy
Timothy J. Roemer - Democrat, former U.S. Representative from the 3rd District of Indiana
James R. Thompson - Republican, former Governor of Illinois

I'm kidding. Why waste time even paying attention to our douche bag government.

Really ,are we disappointed Obama didn't live up to all the press about him?
They are all a$$clowns.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 02, 2011, 02:40:04 pm
Live Updates From Obama Eligibility Hearing At The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in Pasadena...

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/live-updates-from-obama-eligibility.html

Gary from GUL will be giving me periodic phone updates from the hearing in Pasadena, California. This post will be updated as news is forthcoming...

11:55(et): Gary just informed me that the hearing has been put at the end of the docket and will begin in about 1-2 hours after the original scheduling time of 9am California time. It is the the 4th case on the docket. Gary reports that ABC, CBS and CSPAN are in the courtroom. Atty Kreep informed Gary that CSPAN will be broadcasting the oral arguments live on CSPAN TV. I have yet to see it mentioned at CSPAN.

12:03(et): Gary just informed me that attorney Phil Berg is there assisting attorney Kreep at the hearing...

12:35(et): Captain Barnett just emailed me from the hearing; hi in court now. our case is last. Orly Taitz, Gary Kreep, Phil Berg, Wiley Drake, myself and a few supporters are here. Didn't see Alan Keyes.

1:32(et): Captain Barnett; earlier I heard a self-identified DOJ attorney joking with an AP writer that he couldn't believe that they had to be here (court) in referring to the obama eligibility case. They were both laughing so I gave them a 1 page memo on Natural Born and it' importantance and the country's adhereance to the two citizen parent and born within the jurisdiction of the United States requirement that Obama is the only "president" except Chester Arthur who concealed and destroyed his records that did not meet the two citizen requirement. Peace out for now.

2:47(et): Gary just informed me that oral arguments will begin in about 5 minutes. He said the court room is packed with about 80 people and a few in the overflow room. He stated numerous different media outlets are at the hearing.

3:27(et): Atty Kreep finished his oral argument about 15 minutes ago and now it is atty Taitz's turn...

Update---

3:40(et): Obama's tax funded attys turn... ( argued the plaintiffs have no standing )

3:47(et): CASE ADJOURNED...

3:52(et): Taitz speaking with the press now, going over the details of the new fake birth certificate. Gary just blasted the obots... lmao... Taitz now explaining the Selective Service document and the Social Security number... Now on to the record regarding O's missing time during college years... Now back to explaining the new birth certificate and all the layers and other discrepancies with the bc... Media just asked Orly what other documentation she has regarding Obama... (note from me: what more do you need, media?) Now asking the media why they are not investigating Obama... More later today...

Note: the Court should give its ruling in the next day or so... My guess is they will uphold the lower court ruling and dismiss it for lack of standing...

Stay tuned for a complete overview from Gary's experience at today's hearing...

Below is the Taitz brief along with the Kreep brief....

Stay tuned for more updates...

ALL--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/live-updates-from-obama-eligibility.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 03, 2011, 12:15:00 pm
Video--
http://obamacrimes.com/?p=1541

Could this be the Real Obama Birth Certificate?

(http://obamacrimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/obama_birth_certificate11.jpg)

Notice that this Birth Certificate was allegedly signed by Obama’s Grandmother, Madlyn Payne Dunham and the box is checked as other, meaning someone other than the parent signed his Birth Certificate. Does that mean Stanley Ann Dunham was not in the United States at the time of registration of Obama Jr’s birth? Did they deliver Obama Jr to his Grandmother to raise and did Stanley Ann abandon her own son immediately after birth. Is this what Obama is hiding from, a mothers rejection? Just trying to understand the possibilities. In any case it is clear that if this is Obama’s true Birth Certificate, then Stanley Ann Dunham was not available to sign Obama Jr’s BC

Video--
http://obamacrimes.com/?p=1541
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 03, 2011, 12:20:22 pm
Team Obama timed the release of Barry's Long Form Certificate of Live Birth perfectly--

Right before The Royal Wedding and then comes the weekend r & r: sports, beer, sleep---
then, Sunday night, just before feet hit the pavement on Monday,---
Oscama rises again! Barky slays the dragon!

Perfect distraction plan for the neander-sheeple.
 ;)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 04, 2011, 10:27:38 am
Oral Arguments for Keyes-Barnett-Drake et al v. Obama; Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Video on page---
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/oral-arguments-for-keyes-barnett-drake.html

"Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, Pasadena, California; Oral Arguments; Keyes-Barnett-Drake et. al., v. Obama. Plaintiffs include 10 state representatives and 30 members of the U.S. military...

I must say the oral arguments were very encouraging to watch. It appeared to me that 2 of the 3 judges seemed somewhat persuaded by some of the arguments made against Obama AKA Soetoro AKA Soebarkah. Very surprising being this is the most Liberal court in the nation... Hats off to both atty Kreep and atty Taitz... Oral arguments took place on May 2nd, 2011..."
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 09, 2011, 10:59:24 am
Baltimore Orioles Slugger Luke Scott: Obama's Birth Certificate Yet To Be Validated;
People Can Counterfeit $100 Bills; Let’s See If It’s Real

Friday, May 6, 2011

Video--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/baltimore-orioles-slugger-luke-scott.html

As previously reported here, Orioles outfielder Luke Scott doesn't believe Obama was born in United States and said he could produce his original birth certificate in a matter of minutes. Now Scott is speaking out on Obama's release of a purported long-form birth certificate saying it needs to be validated and if people can counterfeit $100.00 bills they can counterfeit a birth certificate much easier. Video of Scott's previous comments embedded below. Hat tip to Gary at GUL.

Snippet via Kansas Star: Being a famous athlete doesn’t make you an expert

...“(President Obama’s) birth certificate has yet to be validated,” he is saying.

Scott is a baseball player for the Orioles, and a pretty good one. Only 11 men have hit more home runs in the American League since 2008, including a three-run shot in the Royals’ 6-5 win on Tuesday.

Scott is also a proud member of the so-called birther movement, a group of people who challenge Obama’s citizenship. Donald Trump is among those who made enough of an issue out of it that the White House released Obama’s birth certificate last week. Or, as Scott puts it, the White House released what looks like Obama’s birth certificate.

“If they can counterfeit $100 bills, I think it’s a million times easier to counterfeit a birth certificate, if you ask me,” Scott says. “So, all it is, let’s just see if it’s real. Anybody can produce a document, so let’s check it out.”

Video--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/baltimore-orioles-slugger-luke-scott.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 11, 2011, 06:06:00 pm
Kenya investigated Obama's birth,

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=297273
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 11, 2011, 06:16:13 pm
Kenya investigated Obama's birth,

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=297273

Thanks Menace.

Interesting comment on the page--

"Mike Lorrey · CEO/Chairman at Brautigan & Tuck Holdings (ACE: BNT)
I know for a fact that British MI6 investigated this case at the time and confirmed that Obama is a British subject, born in Kenya. They are the ones who have the missing records, I have this info directly from someone at that agency."
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 18, 2011, 10:20:05 pm
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=300389

White House panic: Corsi book targeted
'Fight the Smears' 2.0 launched, mocks No. 1 best-seller as delusional 'joke'

Posted: May 18, 2011
4:41 pm Eastern

© 2011 WorldNetDaily

Why is the White House in full defense mode against a book by a small publisher contending Barack Obama is not legally eligible to be president?

Today, the Obama re-election campaign launched an all-out attack on a brand new book critical of Obama, "Where's the Birth Certificate," by bestselling author Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., calling it delusional, laughable and a "joke"... even as it climbed to No. 17 overall and No. 10 in non-fiction at Amazon.com.

If this sounds like major déjà vu, it's because the Obama election campaign did exactly the same thing in 2008 when it mobilized a major assault on Corsi's previous book about Obama, the No. 1 New York Times bestseller "The Obama Nation." And that was a response to the impact of his previous No. 1 New York Times bestseller, "Unfit for Command."

Jerome Corsi's new book,  "Where's the Birth Certificate?", is now available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore

Today's attack by the Obama machine on Corsi's latest and most controversial book was introduced as an offering to sell Obama supporters a T-shirt or coffee mug with an image of the Obama "Certificate of Live Birth" released several weeks ago as well as a portrait of Obama, stamped "Made in America."

In an e-mail dispatched from BarackObama.com this morning, Julianna Smoot proclaims, "You'll like this one."

"Let me introduce you to Jerome Corsi," she says. "This week he released a new book that the publisher says will be a bestseller 'of historic proportions.' The title is 'Where's the Birth Certificate?' – yes, really.

"Corsi's work is a greatest-hits reel of delusions, ranging from 9/11 conspiracies to claiming that there is an infinite supply of oil in the Earth's core. In 2008, he published a book about Barack Obama claiming, among other things, that he (a) is a secret Muslim; (b) is secretly anti-military; (c) secretly dealt drugs; and (d) secretly supported terrorist actions when he was eight years old. So many secrets."
   
The email tells recipients, "The only thing we can do is laugh at it – and make sure as many other people as possible are in on the joke."

Then it asks supporters to donate $30 or more to Obama in exchange for a "limited edition" shirt.

This is not the first White House reaction to Corsi's latest book. The president himself confirmed that he ordered the release of the "certificate" right after the bestselling "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is Not Eligible to be President" was profiled on the Drudge Report and reached No. 1 on Amazon.

So, why the Obama organization's attack against this particular book, when there are so many other hot-selling books that are also very critical of Obama?

"If what Barack Obama released is really a valid birth certificate that answers all the questions about this controversy, why is the Obama campaign in attack mode on Jerome Corsi's bestselling book?" asks Joseph Farah, CEO of WND.com and WND Books, publisher of "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

"Because he fears it is his undoing. Do you really think the $1 billion Obama campaign cares about selling a few coffee mugs? Give me a break. This is an effort to derail media attention from a successful book and media tour that is focusing renewed attention on his ineligibility for office."

Just an hour earlier, Esquire, the Hearst Corporation-owned 79-year-old national magazine, published a fabricated report attacking the Corsi book.

All--
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=300389
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on May 19, 2011, 05:08:07 am
And the Executive Branch thought this was over just because they "released" his alleged long-form?  :D

It ain't over Barry!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 19, 2011, 03:57:28 pm
Team Obama is trying to turn the tables on the Birther movement with their Obama T-Shirts showing Barry's Cert of live Birth for his next campaign.

Well-----

CIA Agent Barry Soetoro knows the best place to hide deceit is in----------------PLAIN SIGHT!!!



Jerome Corsi: Obama Birth Certificate 100% Forged;
Sources Say Hawaii Forged Obama's Certificate of Live Birth Placed It In DOH Book


Video: Dr. Jerome Corsi: Obama's birth certificate is 100% forged; Inside sources say Hawaii made Obama's forged Certificate of Live Birth and placed it in the Hawaii DOH book. The interview was on the Peter Boyles show and aired on 5/18/11.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/jerome-corsi-obama-birth-certificate.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 19, 2011, 04:11:28 pm
Corsi's book is released--------

http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Birth-Certificate-Eligible-President/dp/1936488299/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1305839225&sr=1-1

Where's the Birth Certificate?: The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President
Author: Jerome Corsi

Conspiracy Theories are not to be tolerated!, May 19, 2011
By Gary Paranich (State College, PA)

This review is from: Where's the Birth Certificate?: The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President (Hardcover)
Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the birth certificate, one thing is for certain... As far is the mainstream media is concerned, questioning Obama's legitimacy is about as taboo as questioning the events of 9/11. The issue is solved, case closed, and any opinion otherwise could only be the ramblings of a tin foil hat wearing nut. The reaction of the MSM can be a great litmus test for the legitimacy of a body of work such as this book. When something hits too close to home, the media will thrash out against it like an animal backed into a corner (think Gary Webb's Dark Alliance series), or will meet it with a deafening silence (think Sibel Edmonds...) Read articles such as the recent Esquire "satire", with its stink of desperation. I could imagine Obama sitting with his advisors, "okay. This is steamrolling out of control- how do we handle this!" hence, the release of the birth certificate and the coordinated attack by the media. Government reaction alone makes this book a worthy read regardless of where you stand!

There is a growing body of evidence that suggests that the long form may not be legitimate, with a corresponding set of very well written and explained articles. Regardless of where you stand on the latest developments, the case is not closed. Even with its unfortunate title, Where's the Birth Certificate opens a number of questions beyond this point. Even if the document is legitimate, Obama should have some answering to do. (Of course he won't...) This book now is as timely as it was when posted on Drudge. I have not yet finished reading yet, but from what I have read this is very well researched and touches on a number of important topics- highly recommended!

p.s. To all of the government "contractors" posting negative reviews on this book within a day of its release, it's amazing how fast you can read! I guess for $150,000 a year you can afford excellent speed reading classes :)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: attietewd on May 20, 2011, 01:23:14 am
I read yesterday on a blog a person made a point of saying the birth certificate is just another distraction.  Obama never qualified to be president because both of his parents were not natural citizens of the US.  Both parents must be citizens of the US in order for a person to be a legitimate candidate for the presidency.  So by focusing on Obama's birth place it completely ignores the fact that he could never be a legitimate candidate for the presidency no matter where he was born due to his father's birth place..
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Kilika on May 20, 2011, 05:17:36 am
I don't think there is any dispute that his mother was natural born American citizen. However, there is a question about his father, being from Kenya because at that time, it appears Kenya was officially a part of Britian, which may well have made his father a British subject.

But there is no provision about a president's parents in the Constitution. It only covers the candidate themselves. As I understand it, even a child born in the US of illegal immigrants could become president, so long as they meet the other requirements.

Quote
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898): In this case, the majority of the Court held that a child born in U.S. territory to parents who were subjects of the emperor of China and who were not eligible for U.S. citizenship, but who had "a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the emperor of China" was a U.S. citizen.

The Court stated that:

The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.'[21]

Since the Constitution does not specify what the requirements are to be a "citizen" or a "natural born citizen", the majority adopted the common law of England:

The court ruled:

It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.

The dissent argued that the meaning of the "subject to the jurisdiction" language found in 14th Amendment was the same as that found in the 1866 Civil Rights Act, which provides: "All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States." On the meaning of "natural born citizen", the dissent also cited the treatise on international law by Emerich de Vattel entitled The Law of Nations: "The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."[22] Many Supreme Court decisions equate natives with natural born citizens, sometimes citing Vattel.[23] The dissenters in Wong Kim Ark also argued that birth on the soil was not sufficient to grant citizenship at birth, that:

it is unreasonable to conclude that "natural born citizen" applied to everybody born within the geographical tract known as the United States, irrespective of circumstances; and that the children of foreigners, happening to be born to them while passing through the country, whether of royal parentage or not, or whether of the Mongolian, Malay, or other race, were eligible to the presidency, while children of our citizens, born abroad, were not.

Lower court cases addressing natural born citizenship

Lynch v. Clarke, 3 N.Y. Leg. Obs. 236, 1 Sand. Ch. 583 (1844):[24]

This opinion from a New York court extensively reviewed the issue of natural born citizenship, and was later cited by the U.S. Supreme Court in Wong Kim Ark.
 
And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President. "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President," &c . The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor that by the rule of the common law, in force when the constitution was adopted, he is a citizen.

Moreover, the absence of any avowal or expression in the constitution, of a design to affect the existing law of the country on this subject, is conclusive against the existence of such design. It is inconceivable that the representatives of the thirteen sovereign states, assembled in convention for the purpose of framing a confederation and union for national purposes, should have intended to subvert the long established rule of law governing their constituents on a question of such great moment to them all, without solemnly providing for the change in the constitution; still more that they should have come to that conclusion without even once declaring their object. And what is true of the delegates in the convention, is equally applicable to the designs of the states, and of the people of the states, in ratifying and adopting the results of their labors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States)
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 20, 2011, 10:38:26 am
Regardless of where Barry Soetoro was born, the Cert of Live Birth the WH released has been altered.
THAT has become a new issue in this arrogance of power.

If you have not watched this--check it out, regardless of layers in PDF optimization--
these graphic inconsistencies are undeniable alteration.
 
2011-05-17 Birth Cert Smoking Gun.mp4
http://youtu.be/haiRCLItdEQ
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: menace on May 20, 2011, 06:34:08 pm
Jerome Corsi: White House Running Scared Over Latest Discovery of Obama's True Origins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BygadqqiFH8&feature=player_embedded

Ture news talks about Obama's past.

http://www.trunews.com/Audio/5_18_11_wednesday_trunews2.mp3
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 20, 2011, 10:13:32 pm

Video:
Jerome Corsi To Release Details On Key Media Person Who Helped Create Obama's New Birth Certificate;
Got AP's Mark Niesse!?


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/jerome-corsi-to-release-details-on-key.html

Video: World Net Daily's Dr. Jerome Corsi will soon release details of the key person who helped create Obama's newly forged birth certificate. Dr. Corsi reports the key person is in the Media. Also, more explosive details revealed during today's interview on Infowars Radio Show regarding Obama's destroyed birth records in Kenya and more...
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 20, 2011, 11:44:09 pm
Jerome Corsi: White House Running Scared Over Latest Discovery of Obama's True Origins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BygadqqiFH8&feature=player_embedded

Ture news talks about Obama's past.

http://www.trunews.com/Audio/5_18_11_wednesday_trunews2.mp3

Thanks Menace!

Folks--HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS---

Download and cue this file to 19:00 min mark and start listening. You are about to hear a professional skip tracer give details
on Barack and Michelle Obama and their involvement in a Real Estate Fraud scheme as well as another identity
that Barry Obama uses: Harrison J. Bounel (who shares the same social security number as Barack Obama.)

Tru news--

http://www.trunews.com/Audio/5_18_11_wednesday_trunews2.mp3
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 21, 2011, 12:03:48 am
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/plot-thickens-debt-collector-obamas.html

Video: The Plot Thickens: Debt Collector; Obama's Connecticut Social Security Number Also Tied To An Alias Harrison J Bounel...
Thursday, May 19, 2011

Video: The Plot Thickens: Debt Collector; Obama's Social Security number reserved for Connecticut applicants also tied to an Alias Harrison J Bounel. The debt collector also claims Obama has used two other Social Security numbers in Illinois. This interview covers several issues ranging from O's SS# to his property tax filings in Chicago to 50+ different addresses tied to Obama and Michelle across the country. The interview aired on TruNews Radio 5/18/2011.

First Evidence Dump Showing Obama’s Alias and the Owners of 5046 S Greenwood Ave.

The information (attachment here) that I am about to share is what I pulled the very first day when I discovered that Barack H Obama has an alias “Bounel Harrison J / Harrison J Bounel that is using the current SSN that he has. My initial discovery was by pure accident as I was “Skip Tracing a debtor who just happened to live in Chicago. I could not get a current phone number and address for this individual so I began to back-track her addresses and low-and-behold, Barack Obama’s name showed up as neighbor to this individual back in the 90’s.

When I clicked on his name and the address of 5046 S Greenwood Ave., Chicago, IL 60615, this is what I pulled. All the information is factual as I have had this information verified by a second individual who has been a PI for 20 years and I also did reverse searches with my specialized software and database searches.

Q: Why is a Obama contributor and a Chicago sitting Circuit Court Judge listed as an owner of 5046 S Greenwood Ave.?

Is that illegal?

Q: Why is a partner at the accounting firm that did the Obama’s taxes listed as an owner of 5046 S Greenwood Ave.?

Is that illegal?

Q: Why does 5046 AS Greenwood Ave. have two different PIN #s.

As per Cook County Recorder of Deeds (CCRD):

PIN# 20-11-115-037-0000 does not exist, yet exists with the Treasurer’s Office and exists at the Assessor’s.

PIN# 20-11-115-027-0000 as per the CCRD belongs to a vacant lot on Hyde Park and as per the Treasurer’s Office and the Assessors Offices it belongs to the (Rear Apt) at 5046 S Greenwood Ave. -Source.

ALL--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/plot-thickens-debt-collector-obamas.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 21, 2011, 10:47:40 am

Video: WND's Dr. Jerome Corsi smacks down Liberal radio co-host over the 14th Amendment, the irrelevant, non-binding, Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana state case, and the Congressional Research Service's opinion on Obama's eligibility. After listening to this interview you will know the real reason why the Fox News Channel, or any other mainstream media outlet, will not allow Dr. Corsi on to discuss the case that Obama AKA Soetoro AKA Soebarkah is not and can never be eligible to be president.

Dr. Corsi shut this Libtard down quicker than you can say INELIGIBLE!

Video on page
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/jerome-corsi-smacks-down-liberal-radio.html

Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 22, 2011, 11:34:58 am
Obama's Social Security Number Tied To An Alias Harrison J Bounel - 5/18/11

http://youtu.be/X6tvti9um6k

The Plot Thickens: Debt Collector; Obama's Social Security number reserved for Connecticut applicants also tied to an alias Harrison J Bounel. The debt collector also claims Obama has used two other Social Security numbers in Illinois. This interview covers several issues ranging from O's SS# to his property tax filings in Chicago to 50+ different addresses tied to Obama and Michelle across the country. The interview aired on TruNews Radio 5/18/2011.

More info on "Harrison J Bounel" these comments posted here--
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2722489/posts
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 23, 2011, 02:46:00 pm
Corsi kicks butt-------

Jerome Corsi: Criminal Fraud Committed By White House To Keep Obama In Office; Challenges Mainstream Media & Bill O'Reilly

Video: WND's Dr. Jerome Corsi challenges the mainstream media and Fox News' Bill O'Reilly. The White House committed criminal fraud to keep Obama AKA Soetoro AKA Soebarkah in office. The interview was on WABC Radio and aired on 5/22/11.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/jerome-corsi-criminal-fraud-committed.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 23, 2011, 03:11:23 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/corsi-to-file-criminal-charges-against.html

Corsi To File Criminal Charges Against White House: Clear Channel Communications Scrubs Corsi Interview From Bill Cunningham Podcast!?

Monday, May 23, 2011

WND's Dr. Jerome Corsi stated on the Bill Cunningham Radio Show that he's going to 'file criminal charges against the White House' over the latest birth certificate forgery. I listened to the live show and then went back to the radio station website to download the show podcast and lo and behold the interview with Dr. Corsi was scrubbed from the show podcast. I think maybe Bill O'Reilly gave them some tips on scrubbing show podcasts... ;-)

The radio station in question is Cincinnati's 700 WLW which is owned by none other than Clear Channel Communications, which, by the way, is the parent company of Clear Channel Outdoor who refused to erect World Net Daily's 'Where's the Birth Certificate?' billboards two years back.

Just to be sure I downloaded all three hours from the 5/22/2011 broadcast. The first show hour is only around 20 minutes long as opposed to the second hour and the third hour podcasts being about 40 minutes long. The Corsi interview should be in the hour 1 podcast, also noted by a followup caller in the hour one podcast

Straight from Bill Cunningham's podcast web page at Clear Channel's 700 WLW website:

Billy gets another update from Dr. Jerry Corsi regarding Obama’s citizenship.

HOUR 1: http://downloads.podcast.clearchannel.com/CINCINNATI-OH/WLW-AM/110522_1_CUNNINGHAM.mp3

ALL--
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/corsi-to-file-criminal-charges-against.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 24, 2011, 09:32:49 pm
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/corsi-fbi-criminal-complaint-being.html

Corsi: FBI Criminal Complaint Being Filed This Week About Obama's Forged Birth Certificate;
Trump Called Corsi Today For Latest Details

Tuesday, May 24, 2011

Video:
World Net Daily's Dr. Jerome Corsi reports that he will be having a top expert file a criminal complaint with the FBI this week about  Obama's newly forged birth certificate. Dr. Corsi also reports that Donald Trump called him today to find out what Dr. Corsi's next move was related to Obama's eligibility. During this lengthy interview Dr. Corsi reveals new information regarding the Bush Administration's attempt to get Obama's Kenyan birth documents. Interview aired on Infowars Radio Show on 5/24/2011.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/corsi-fbi-criminal-complaint-being.html
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate Updates - Part II
Post by: Protean on May 24, 2011, 09:40:30 pm

http://www.rense.com/general94/force_dev.htm

Force An Investigation Into Obama's Birth Certificate Criminal Fraud
By Devvy
5-23-11

"One man with courage makes a majority." --President Andrew Jackson
 
For those following the newest chapter in Obama/Soetoro's efforts to convince Americans he is a natural born citizen and therefore, was legally elected, old Barry's latest move was a bad one, indeed.
 
The birth certificate he ordered up from the State of Hawaii and presented to the world is a forgery. What he's done constitutes a criminal act. I hope you can take the time to listen to this 21 minute video of a recent interview with Dr. Jerome Corsi, author of the massive best selling, Where's the Birth Certificate