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Title: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 09:35:47 am
Twenty Minutes with the President
http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/
Reported by Charlie Sheen
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Tuesday, September 8, 2009



I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with our 44th President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, while he was out promoting his health care reform initiative. I requested 30 minutes given the scope and detail of my inquiry; they said I could have 20. Twenty minutes, 1200 seconds, not a lot of time to question the President about one of the most important events in our nation’s history. The following is a transcript of our remarkable discussion.

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Charlie Sheen – Good afternoon Mr. President, thank you so much for taking time out of your demanding schedule.

President Barack Obama – My pleasure, the content of your request seemed like something I should carve out a few minutes for.

CS – I should point out that I voted for you, as your promises of hope and change, transparency and accountability, as well as putting government back into the hands of the American people, struck an emotional chord in me that I hadn’t felt in quite some time, perhaps ever.

PBO – And I appreciate that Charlie. Big fan of the show, by the way.

CS – Sir, I can’t imagine when you might find the time to actually watch my show given the measure of what you inherited.

PBO – I have it Tivo’d on Air Force One. Nice break from the traveling press corps. (He glances at his watch) not to be abrupt or to rush you, but you have 19 minutes left.

CS – I’ll take that as an invitation to cut to the chase.

PBO – I’m all ears. Or so I’ve been told.

CS – Sir, in the very near future we will be experiencing our first 9/11 anniversary with you as Commander in Chief.

PBO – Yes. A very solemn day for our Nation. A day of reflection and yet a day of historical consciousness as well.

CS – Very much so sir, very much so indeed…. Now; In researching your position regarding the events of 9/11 and the subsequent investigation that followed, am I correct to understand that you fully support and endorse the findings of the commission report otherwise known as the ‘official story’?

PBO – Do I have any reason not to? Given that most of us are presumably in touch with similar evidence.

CS – I really wish that were the case, sir. Are you aware, Mr. President, of the recent stunning revelations that sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack?

PBO – I am aware of certain “in fighting” during the course of their very thorough and tireless investigative process.

CS – Mr. President, it’s hard to label this type of friction as “in fighting” or make the irresponsible leap to “thorough,” when the evidence I insist you examine regarding 6 of the 10 members are statements of fact.

(At this point one of Obama’s senior aides approaches the President and whispers into his ear. Obama glances quickly at his watch and nods as the aide resumes his post at the doorway, directly behind me.)

PBO – No disrespect Mr. Sheen, but I have to ask; what is it that you seem to be implying with the initial direction of this discussion?

CS – I am not implying anything Mr. President. I am here to present the facts and see what you plan to do with them.

PBO – Let me guess; your ‘facts,’ allegedly supporting these claims are in the folders you brought with you?

CS – Good guess Mr. President.

(I hand the first folder of documents to the President)

CS – Again sir, these are not my opinions or assumptions, this is all a matter of public record, reported through mainstream media, painstakingly fact checked and verified.

(the President glances into the folder I handed him)

CS – You’ll notice sir on page one of the dossier dated August of ‘06 from the Washington Post, the statements of John Farmer, senior council to the 9/11 commission, his quote stating, “I was shocked how different the truth was from the way it was described.”

PBO – (as he glances down at the report, almost inaudible) …. um hmm….

CS – He goes on to further state “The [NORAD Air Defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years….”

(the President continues to view the documents)

CS – On pages two and three, sir, are the statements, as well, from commission co-chairmen Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, commissioners Bob Kerrey, Timothy Roemer and John Lehman, as well as the statements of commissioner Max Cleland, an ex-Senator from Georgia , who resigned, stating:

“It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.”

He also described President Bush’s desire to delay the process as not to damage the ‘04 re-election bid. They suspected deception to the point where they considered referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation. Mr. President, this information alone is unequivocally grounds for a new investigation!

PBO – Mistakes were clearly made but we as a people and as a country need to move forward. It is obviously in our best interest as a democratic society to focus our efforts and our resources on the future of this great nation and our ability to protect the American people and our allies from this type of terrorism in the coming years.

CS – Sir, how can we focus on the future when THE COMMISSION ITSELF is on record stating that they still do not know the truth??

PBO – Even if what you state, might in some capacity, begin to approach an open discussion or balanced debate, I can’t speak for, or about the decisions certain commission members made during an extremely difficult period. Perhaps you should be interviewing them instead of me. Wait, don’t tell me; I was easier to track down than they were?

CS – Not exactly sir, but let’s be honest. You’re the President of the United States, the leader of the free world, the buck stops with you. 9/11 has been the pretext for the systematic dismantling of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Your administration is reading from the same playbook that the Bush administration foisted on America through documented secrecy and deception.

PBO – Mr. Sheen, I’m having a difficult time sitting here and listening to you draw distorted parallels between the Bush/Cheney regime and mine.

CS – Mr. President the parallels are not distorted just because you say they are. Let’s stick to the facts. You promised to abolish the Patriot Act and then voted to re-authorize it. You pledged to end warrantless wire tapping against the American people and now energetically defend it. You decried the practice of rendition and now continue it. You promised over and over again on the campaign trail, that you would end the practice of indefinite detention and instead, you have expanded it to permanent detention of “detainees” without trial. This far exceeds the outrages of the former administration. Call me crazy Mr. President, but is this not your record?

PBO – Mr. Sheen, my staff and I authorized this interview based on your request to discuss 9/11 and deliver some additional information you’re convinced I’d not previously reviewed. Call me crazy, But it appears as though you’ve blindly wandered off topic.

CS – Sir, the examples I just illustrated are a direct result of 9/11.

PBO – And I’m telling you that we must move forward, we must endure through these dangerous and politically challenging years ahead.

CS – Mr. President, we cannot move forward with a bottomless warren of unanswered questions surrounding that day and its aftermath.

PBO – I read the official report. Every word every page. Perhaps you should do the same.

CS – I have sir, and so have thousands of family members of the victims, and guess what; they have the same questions I do and probably a lot more. I didn’t lose a loved one on that horrific day Mr. President and neither did you. But since then I, along with millions of other Americans lost something we held true and dear for most of our lives in this great country of ours; we lost our hope.

PBO – And I’d like to believe that I am here to restore that hope. To restore confidence in your leaders, in the system that the voting public chose through a peaceful transfer of power.

(An odd moment of silence between us. Precious time ticking away).

CS – Mr. President, are you aware of the number of days it took to begin the investigation into JFK’s assassination?

PBO – If memory serves I believe it was two weeks.

CS – Close. Seventeen days to be exact. Are you aware sir, how long it took to begin the investigation into Pearl Harbor?

PBO – I would say again about….two weeks.

CS – Close again sir, eleven days to be exact. Are you aware Mr. President how long it took to begin the investigation into 9/11?

PBO – I know it must have seemed like a very long time for all the grieving families.

CS – It was a very long time Mr. President – four hundred and forty days. Roughly 14 months. Does it bother you Mr. President that it only took FIVE HOURS for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld after the initial attack to recommend and endorse a full scale offensive against Iraq?

PBO – I am not aware of any such purported claim.

CS – I have the proof Mr. President, along with scores of documents and facts I’d like you to take a look at. Here.

(I hand him another file – much thicker than the first)

PBO – I see you came prepared Charlie.

CS – No other way to show up Mr. President. When in doubt over prepare I always say.

PBO – Now you sound like the First Lady.

CS – That’s quite a compliment sir.

PBO – As you wish. Please continue.

CS – Sir, I’d like to direct your attention to the stack of documents in the folder I just handed you. The first in from the top is entitled “Operation Northwoods“, a declassified Pentagon plan to stage terror attacks on US soil, to be blamed on Cuba as a pretext for war.

PBO – And I’d like to direct your attention to the fact that the principle draftsman of this improbable blueprint was quickly denied a second term as Joint Chiefs chairman and sent packing to a European NATO garrison. Thank God his otherworldly ambitions never saw the light of day.

CS – I wouldn’t be so certain about that Mr. President.

PBO – I could easily say the same to you Charlie.

(the President checks his watch)

CS – The next document reads “Declassified staged provocations.” Now, Honestly Mr. President I wish I was making this stuff up. I’m certain you are familiar with the USS Maine Incident, the sinking of the Lusitania, which we all now know brought us into WW1, and of course the most famous, the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

PBO – Of course I am familiar with these historical events and I’m aware that there’s a measure of controversy surrounding them. But to be quite frank with you, this is all ancient history.

CS – Mr. President, it has been often said; “Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.” And I concede to you sir, these events are the past.

PBO – A vastly different world young man, shouldering a radically disparate state of universal affairs.

CS – No argument sir, I’m merely inviting you to acknowledge some credibility to the pattern or the theme. Case in point; the next document in your folder. It was published by the think-tank, Project For a New American Century and it’s entitled “Rebuilding Americas Defenses“, and was written by Dick Cheney and Jeb Bush. To quote from the document sir – (the President interrupts)

PBO – “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”

CS – Touche, sir. Your thoughts on this statement Mr. President?

PBO – I would call this a blatant case of misjudgment fueled by an unfortunate milieu of assumption. For some, the uninformed denial of coincidence.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t


CS – Interesting angle sir. Nevertheless, Vice President Cheney didn’t stop there. In early 2008, Pulitzer prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh and MSNBC, both reported that Cheney had proposed to the Pentagon an outrageous plan to have the U.S. Navy create fake Iranian patrol boats, to be manned by Navy Seals, who would then stage an attack on US destroyers in the Strait of Hormuz. This event was to be blamed on Iran and used as a pretext for war. Does any of this information worry you Mr. President? Should we just ignore it, until these realities can be dismissed years from now by our children, as ancient history as well?

PBO – Of course this information worries me, yet it’s not nearly as worrisome as you sitting here today suspiciously implying that 9/11 was somehow allowed to happen or even orchestrated from the inside.

CS – Mr. President I am not suspiciously implying anything. I am merely exposing the documents and asking the questions that nobody in power will even look at or acknowledge. And as I stated earlier, I voted for you, I believed in your message of hope and change. Mr. President I have come to you specifically hoping for a change. A change in the perception that our government has not yet made itself open and accountable to the people. These are your words Mr. President not mine. The lives of thousands were brutally cut short and those left behind to suffer their infinite pain are with me today Mr. President. They are with me in spirit and flesh, and the message we carry will not be silenced anymore by media fueled mantras insisting how they are supposed to feel. Deciding for them, for 8 long years, what can be thought, what can be said, what can be asked.

PBO – And I appreciate your passion, I appreciate your conviction. In spite of your concerns, in spite of what your data might or might not reveal, what you and the families must understand and accept is that we are doing everything we can to protect you.

CS – Mr. President , I realize were very short on time, so please allow me to run down a list of bullet points that might illuminate some reasons why we don’t embrace the warm hug of Federal protection.

PBO – We’ve come this far. Fire away.

CS – Please keep in mind Mr. President everything I’m about to say is documented as fact and part of the public record. The information you are holding in your hands chronicles and verifies each and every point.

PBO – You have five minutes left. The floor is yours. Brief me.

CS – Thank you Mr. President. Okay, first; On the FBI’s most wanted list Osama Bin Laden is not charged with the crimes of 911. When I called the FBI to ask them why this was the case, they replied: “There’s not enough evidence to link Bin Laden to the crime scene,” I later discovered he had never even been indicted by the D.O.J.

CS – Number 2; FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, was dismissed and gagged by the D.O.J. after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001. In July of ‘09, Mrs. Edmonds broke the Federal gag order and went public to reveal that Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were all working for and with the C.I.A. up until the day of 9/11.

CS – Number 3; The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

CS – Number 4; In April 2004, USA Today reported, “In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.” One of the targets was the World Trade Center.

CS – Number 5; On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360′, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.

Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

CS – Number 6; Three F-16s assigned to Andrews Air Force Base, ten miles from Washington, DC, are conducting training exercises in North Carolina 207 miles away as the first plane crashes into the WTC. Even at significantly less than their top speed of 1500 mph, they could still have defended the skies over Washington well before 9am, more than 37 minutes before Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon, however, they did not return until after 9:55am.

Andrews AFB had no armed fighters on alert and ready to take off on the morning of 9/11.

CS – Number 7; WTC Building 7. Watch the video of its collapse.

CS – Number 8; Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. V.P. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

Fueling further suspicion on this front is the fact that three months before the attacks of 9/11, Dick Cheney usurped control of NORAD, and therefore he, and no one else on planet Earth, had the power to call for military sorties on the hijacked airliners on 9/11. He did not exercise that power. Three months after 9/11, he relinquished command of NORAD and returned it to military operation.

CS – Number 9; Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified.

CS – Number 10; In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center, but were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone.

As the Philadelphia Daily News reported at the time, “Their story raises the question of whether there was a some type of cover-up at Ground Zero.”

CS – Number 11 – Hundreds of eye witnesses including first responders, fire captains, news reporters, and police, all described multiple explosions in both towers before and during the collapse.

CS – Number 12; An astounding video uncovered from the archives shows BBC News correspondent Jane Standley reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. Tapes from earlier BBC broadcasts show news anchors discussing the collapse of WTC 7 a full 26 minutes in advance. The BBC at first claimed that their tapes from 9/11 had been “lost” before admitting that they made the “error” of reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it happened without adequately explaining how they could have obtained advance knowledge of the event.

In addition, over an hour before the collapse of WTC 7, at 4:10pm, CNN’s Aaron Brown reported that the building “has either collapsed, or is collapsing.”

CS – Number 13; Solicitor General Ted Olson’s claim that his wife Barbara Olsen called him twice from Flight 77, describing hijackers with box cutters, was a central plank of the official 9/11 story.

However, the credibility of the story was completely undermined after Olsen kept changing his story about whether his wife used her cell phone or the airplane phone. The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. American Airlines confirmed that Flight 77 was a Boeing 757 and that this plane did not have airplane phones on board.

According to the FBI, Barbara Olsen attempted to call her husband only once and the call failed to connect, therefore Olsen must have been lying when he claimed he had spoken to his wife from Flight 77.

CS – Number 14; The size of a Boeing 757 is approximately 125ft in width and yet images of the impact zone at the Pentagon supposedly caused by the crash merely show a hole no more than 16ft in diameter. The engines of the 757 would have punctured a hole bigger than this, never mind the whole plane. Images before the partial collapse of the impact zone show little real impact damage and a sparse debris field completely inconsistent with the crash of a large jetliner, especially when contrasted with other images showing airplane crashes into buildings.

CS – Number 15; What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by then Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, “The plane is 50 miles out.” “The plane is 30 miles out.” And when it got down to “the plane is 10 miles out,” the young man also said to the Vice President, “Do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?”

As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated, are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

CS – Number 16; In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to “avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report,” particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.

CS – Number 17; Top Pentagon officials cancelled their scheduled flights for September 11th on September 10th. San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, following a security warning, cancelled a flight into New York that was scheduled for the morning of 9/11.

CS – Number 18; The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004, and even by that point it was only in the trial phase. Calls from cell phones which formed an integral part of the official government version of events were technologically impossible at the time.

CS – Number 19: On April 29, 2004, President Bush and V.P. Cheney would only meet with the commission under specific clandestine conditions. They insisted on testifying together and not under oath. They also demanded that their testimony be treated as a matter of “state secret.” To date, nothing they spoke of that day exists in the public domain.

CS – And finally Mr. President – Number 20; A few days after the attack, several newspapers as well as the FBI reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC. In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah’s visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

At least a third of the WTC victim’s bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

(The Senior aide appears again beside the President whispering in his ear. He then quickly moves off).

PBO – Well Charlie I can’t say this hasn’t been interesting. As I said earlier you’ve showed up today focused and organized. Regardless how I feel about the material you’ve presented, I must commend your dedication and zeal. However, our time here is up.

(the President rises from his chair , I do the same).

CS – Mr. President! One more second!

(The President starts towards the door – I follow him quickly step for step).

CS – Mr. President, I implore you based on the evidence you now possess, to use your Executive Power. Prove to us all Sir, that you do, in fact, care. Create a truly comprehensive and open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath. The families deserve the truth, the American people and the rest of the free world deserve the truth. Mr. President -

(He pauses. We shake hands).

CS – Make sure your on the right side of history.

(The President breaks the handshake).

PBO – I am on the right side of history. Thank you Charlie, my staff and I will be in touch.

(I watch as he strides gracefully out of the room, the truth I provided him held firmly by his side; in the hand of providence.)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 09:37:07 am
Author’s Note:  What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet.
I'm gonna puke.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 09:44:45 am
FAKE
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Triadtropz on September 08, 2009, 09:52:33 am
FAKE

what is alex doing to his credibility with all this nonsense?....
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Georgiacopguy on September 08, 2009, 09:56:09 am
Hurry, quick, somebody show Sane to factcheck.org...bwahahaha...sorry sane, couldn't resist that one....lol.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 09:58:13 am
Author’s Note:  What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet.
I'm gonna puke.

This link appears below the author's note.

A comprehensive bibliography containing all of the evidence presented above can be viewed at http://www.prisonplanet.com/20_minutes_bibliography.html
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Scootle on September 08, 2009, 09:58:45 am
Guys it's a publicity stunt for 9/11 truth. Charlie sheen is appearing as a guest tomorrow ... guess who else is ... according to Alex himself on the sunday show, Stephen Jones and Richard Gage are also appearing as guests tomorrow ... maybe he is going to have all three on AT THE SAME TIME ... a star studded 9/11 event ... this is gonna be big.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sociostudent on September 08, 2009, 09:59:05 am
Author’s Note:  What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet.
I'm gonna puke.

omg. is this just another CoIntelPro trap to get truthers to hate on alex, or are we all humiliated right now because we went out on a limb for an imaginary interview?

Last I heard, Obama refused to do interviews about 9/11. I doubt Charlie Sheen, even in all his former stardom glory, is going to be able to change his mind about that.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Georgiacopguy on September 08, 2009, 10:02:14 am
Sane, you gonna take dat shit...from HIM?!?!?


"Sane" the master of copy and paste...LOL

"copy and paste" doesn't equal true research.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Intruth on September 08, 2009, 10:05:21 am
This is just the opening salvo, lets wait for the show before everyone starts all the hate posts. Its going to get heated and interesting and spark a national debate that can not be ignored.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Beefcake on September 08, 2009, 10:10:09 am
Just clarify.  The entire thing was a mock interview?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 10:12:17 am
Just clarify.  The entire thing was a mock interview?

Yep, there's an author's note at the bottom.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 10:19:04 am
Just clarify.  The entire thing was a mock interview?

Oh Beefcake, was has become of us friend. :)

*I'm Gone*
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Beefcake on September 08, 2009, 10:25:29 am
I am reading the other thread and there are plenty of people in it with in or around 10 posts so obviously not fans of the show.
I don't see why some are so upset.  I understand that apparently it was put up without the disclaimer for awhile and some went sending it everywhere.

This is a very good thing imo despite it being a mock interview it has come at the right time and will garner a lot of attention because here we have the HIGHEST paid TV actor doing an elaborate mock interview with the President.  The nature of it alone is mainstream news worthy.

This also kills the critics who all said "charlie stopped talking about 9/11 once he started earning the big bucks"

I like it and no doubt exposing false flags to a new group of people at a time when i think there might be another one looming is very good timing.  

Sure this may piss off people who are already awake but quite frankly we don't matter so much because we aren't going back to sleep if we disagree with Alex.  This is about NEW listeners NEW minds waking up not appealing to the choir.
I guess we will have to wait and see i guess how this develops.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 10:27:14 am
I am reading the other thread and there are plenty of people in it with in or around 10 posts so obviously not fans of the show.
I don't see why some are so upset.  I understand that apparently it was put up without the disclaimer for awhile and some went sending it everywhere.

This is a very good thing imo despite it being a mock interview it has come at the right time and will garner a lot of attention because here we have the HIGHEST paid TV actor doing an elaborate mock interview with the President.  The nature of it alone is mainstream news worthy.

This also kills the critics who all said "charlie stopped talking about 9/11 ones he started earning the big bucks"

I like it and no doubt exposing false flags to a new group of people at a time when i think there might be another one looming is very good timing.  

Sure this may piss off people who are already awake but quite frankly we don't matter so much because we aren't going back to sleep if we disagree with Alex.  This is about NEW listeners NEW minds waking up not appealing to the choir.
I guess we will have to wait and see i guess how this develops.

Thanks, yes Charlie had a lot of Hootspa doin' it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 10:30:18 am
LOL...I am just razzing a little ...he has some great stuff on here.
Sure, we love Tron.
no doubt.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 10:34:59 am
This is a fake interview, it never happened, and Obama is not capable of such intelligent on the spot replies

"Authors Note: What you have just read didn't actually happen.. yet" - Charlie Sheen

I know you guys are aware but what the f**k Alex?!??! No one wants this shit to be presented as real, then with a tiny disclaimer at the bottom
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: luckee1 on September 08, 2009, 10:58:02 am
It is so quiet in global mod land.  I have never seen them so reticent!  This is the only thing funny about it.   :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sociostudent on September 08, 2009, 11:00:48 am
It is so quiet in global mod land.  I have never seen them so reticent!  This is the only thing funny about it.   :D

It's because they don't want to take the trollpaper down until all the trolls stick to it.  :P
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: DCUBED on September 08, 2009, 11:02:46 am
Ahhh. it's a psyop... on purpose
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: unitedstrokesofamerica on September 08, 2009, 11:04:54 am
This is a pretty cheap stunt. I was reading that like it was real until I got to the end and was like WTF!!!.  He needs to put the disclamer at the top of the page IMO.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Mike Philbin on September 08, 2009, 11:07:01 am
I feel dirtied by that desperate FABRICATION.

And the A.J. site and feed is DEAD.

:(
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: DCUBED on September 08, 2009, 11:07:24 am
This is a pretty cheap stunt. I was reading that like it was real until I got to the end and was like WTF!!!.  He needs to put the disclamer at the top of the page IMO.

No, that's the point. You are forced to read the whole thing before you realize it's fake.  This isn't for people like us to read, it's for the one's who haven't woke up yet.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 11:11:19 am
Alex Jones is saying its a Psy-Op operation against the Elite, and that this fake propaganda piece will force the Mainstream Media to look at all the points and discuss them, but thats just garbage, they will just have the same reaction as we did, when they read its a lie they will just completely ignore the article as its all bullshit anyways. Lets say they decide to entertain Alex Jones with a response, they will just show him to be a deciever who writes fake articles, which he presents as true events.

Not impressed... at all.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mcs7 on September 08, 2009, 11:19:19 am
This COULD work people.
Let it play

support it and send it out VIRAL

if for no other reason than to

LIKE ALEX SAID

FORCE THE ARGUMENT OF 9/11 TRUTH INTO THE MAINSTREAM

TO EXPOSE THE NWO ACTUAL TACTICS MAY SAVE OUR LIVES AND COUNTRY
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sociostudent on September 08, 2009, 11:20:54 am
Ok, I'm in. I am willing to support people who demand answers about 9/11--it has nothing to do with publicity stunts, spins, or popularity contests.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 11:24:10 am
No, that's the point. You are forced to read the whole thing before you realize it's fake.  This isn't for people like us to read, it's for the one's who haven't woke up yet.

I think that might backfire on him -- someone will read the whole thing, amazed at what they're reading - then get to the disclaimer and get pissed of because it was a fake. Any gains made by having them read the whole interview piece will be lost when they read the disclaimer. The POINT of 911 TRUTH is TRUTH right? Why promote truth with a FAKE interview????
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: luckee1 on September 08, 2009, 11:24:55 am
It's because they don't want to take the trollpaper down until all the trolls stick to it.  :P

You mean they posted a BS "interview" in order to purge the forum for trolls?   And the global mods are being quiet so they can do massive ban hammer?  Gee whiz.  So does that mean if one thinks that this article is a nasty play on people, they will be regarded as trolls?  

The pp.tv is not coming up at all now and I can not get logged in anymore over there so I can listen whats up.  Do paying members not get to hear this 'revolutionary' broadcast?  

I mean WTF?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: 911aware on September 08, 2009, 11:36:44 am
i hope this stunt doesn't backfire.
instead of focusing on the facts, the media will likely focus on the misleading nature of this article.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Clyde Barrow on September 08, 2009, 11:37:51 am
So... Is this the "biggest announcement that Alex has ever made"? Is this what all the hype was about? A fake interview?

 ???
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 11:42:03 am
No, that's the point. You are forced to read the whole thing before you realize it's fake.  This isn't for people like us to read, it's for the one's who haven't woke up yet.

Also note that it was Charlie Sheen himself that wrote the fictitious interview, not Alex Jones, Paul Watson or any of the infowars staff. It's Charlie's imagination about how an actual interview with Obama could go if Obama was to actually grant him such an interview, followed by the link to the 9/11 evidence that he would present to Obama.

It's a bit of genious I think. Open up with an apetizer of satire and follow with the main coarse (the meat and potatoes) of the 9/11 evidence that has been collected over the years.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 11:42:11 am
i hope this stunt doesn't backfire.
instead of focusing on the facts, the media will likely focus on the misleading nature of this article.

I hope you can hope REAL HARD!!

 :(
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheHouseMan on September 08, 2009, 11:43:29 am
So... Is this the "biggest announcement that Alex has ever made"? Is this what all the hype was about? A fake interview?

 ???

He says there is much, much more to come in the coming month. This is insanely exciting.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 11:45:27 am
Yep Charlie Sheen love fest  ::)

If this is a war wouldn't maybe trying to get Ron Paul to talk about 9/11, expose this corruption...oh thats right Ron Paul doesn't believe 9/11 was a false flag inside job,but not to worry we have Charlie Sheen.

What a f**kin joke.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 11:49:15 am
It is so quiet in global mod land.  I have never seen them so reticent!  This is the only thing funny about it.   :D

they don't need to weigh in,
it's a mod holiday: time to sit back and watch the fireworks

(http://www.sipspledge.com.au/natalie/images/wishlist_july08/NYE_fireworks.jpg)

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sheepleprod on September 08, 2009, 11:50:32 am
Yep Charlie Sheen love fest  ::)

If this is a war wouldn't maybe trying to get Ron Paul to talk about 9/11, expose this corruption...oh thats right Ron Paul doesn't believe 9/11 was a false flag inside job,but not to worry we have Charlie Sheen.

What a f**kin joke.

Who else is stepping up?  You got the clout?  Put up or shut up.  You have no idea how psy-ops work if you continue to attack this angle.  You are smarter than that bro I have seen your posts.
Title: Remember this is an Information War!
Post by: ff2k1984 on September 08, 2009, 11:50:46 am
If the MSM whoars picks this up, potentially millions of people might actually read Charlies letter and read the 20 bullet points.  People who might of otherwise gotten there news and info on 9/11 from the MSM whoars, popular mechanics and nat geo.
Title: Re: Remember this is an Information War!
Post by: sociostudent on September 08, 2009, 11:53:34 am
qfmft, newbie.  ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ENDG4M3 on September 08, 2009, 11:53:40 am
i hope this stunt doesn't backfire.
instead of focusing on the facts, the media will likely focus on the misleading nature of this article.

exactly... AJ needs to drop this one asap... AJ has impeccable credibility, until this popped up.

That disclaimer needs to be big and bold at the TOP of the article. Now everything else associated with infowars will be considered suspect.

Bad tactics... save face while you can AJ.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ekimdrachir on September 08, 2009, 11:57:00 am
Lots of people are mad this isn't a real interview, just a letter
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 11:57:45 am
I cannot believe that Alex Jones huge announcement is that he has a "Fictious Interview" and he is about to Interview the "Fictious Interviewer" and in the coming months he plans to write and present more "Fictious News" as reality.

He basically came on Air and said "This huge announcement was a lie, and guess what folks, I plan to deliberately lie to you guys again in the future, you may never know what articles or interviews on this website will be fake and which ones will be real. We are planning on consciously continue to propagate lies indefinitely."
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on September 08, 2009, 12:02:07 pm
Starting sending the story out guys..  It's easy..   

Here's a good starting point...

http://www.google.com/webhp?start=0&sa=N#hl=en&source=hp&q=send+us+your+news+tips&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=d9ca629f83f82f8a



Tell them ..

Charlie Sheen wants to sit down with the President and ask a few questions.

http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 12:11:47 pm
CAN ANYONE ON THE PLANET PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS INTERVIEW WAS NOT GRANTED?

This is the question everyone should be asking.

These are basic fricking questions!

These questions not being allowed to be asked is a fricking obstruction of justice in the most basic frm.

WHY AREN'T THESE QUESTIONS ALLOWED?

WTF is this? Nazi Germany? Mao's China? Lyndon Johnson's America?

EIGHT YEARS!!!

EIGHT FRICKING YEARS!!!

THIS IS THE CONVERSATION THAT IS NEEDED ALL OVER THE GLOBE!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED BY EVERYONE THIS WEEK TO EVERYONE!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: AtomicBlythe on September 08, 2009, 12:21:16 pm
I'm watching the 'news' and blogs to see what people have to say.


http://www.byroncrawford.com/2009/09/charlie-sheens-last-meeting-with-the-president.html
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: InfoTruth on September 08, 2009, 12:22:23 pm
Starting sending the story out guys..  It's easy..   

Here's a good starting point...

http://www.google.com/webhp?start=0&sa=N#hl=en&source=hp&q=send+us+your+news+tips&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=d9ca629f83f82f8a



Tell them ..

Charlie Sheen wants to sit down with the President and ask a few questions.

http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/



Thanks. Let the spamming begin!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 01:05:04 pm
Alex just explained this 1 hour 30 minutes into the show, this psyop against the NWO will work! Charlie Sheen knows the MSM will attack him and that will blowup in their faces because people will be going to infowars and prisonplanet to see the bogus interview that will lead them to the factual evidence that 9/11 is an inside job. Brilliant Charlie!

Combined with CS's star power this may also prove to hard for even Obama to ignore as we use this story and spread it around demanding real answers to the questions he presents.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Irobot on September 08, 2009, 01:11:02 pm
CAN ANYONE ON THE PLANET PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS INTERVIEW WAS NOT GRANTED?

This is the question everyone should be asking.

These are basic fricking questions!

These questions not being allowed to be asked is a fricking obstruction of justice in the most basic frm.

WHY AREN'T THESE QUESTIONS ALLOWED?

WTF is this? Nazi Germany? Mao's China? Lyndon Johnson's America?

EIGHT YEARS!!!

EIGHT FRICKING YEARS!!!

THIS IS THE CONVERSATION THAT IS NEEDED ALL OVER THE GLOBE!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED BY EVERYONE THIS WEEK TO EVERYONE!

Do I , Sheen or Alex "Hollywood" Jones (as Paul Joseph Watson once called him on air) deserve access to POTUS?

AJ  is like a start struck teen around these stars!

There may be some good done from this for the truth movement, however, Sheens fall TV show will get some buzz as well.

.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Imbue on September 08, 2009, 01:44:01 pm
Anyone else get their comment deleted from the PP article?

Seems there are many more than just me, who posted and got their comment deleted....


Oh AJ you are a Martyr!



NOT!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sheepleprod on September 08, 2009, 01:46:46 pm
Comments are being disabled not DELETED as mentioned on the live show. 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 01:53:48 pm
Comments are being disabled not DELETED as mentioned on the live show. 

I think Imbue might be talking about if you look at the article on the website the comments number keeps dropping.

It was 325, then 250 and now 241.

The comments count should go up not down surely?  ???
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: donnay on September 08, 2009, 01:55:39 pm
I just told Alex that this was a great idea!  I plan on getting this out to editors in my local newspaper and publications.  I will be in New York on the 8th anniversary of 9/11!!!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 01:56:38 pm
I just told Alex that this was a great idea!  I plan on getting this out to editors in my local newspaper and publications.  I will be in New York on the 8th anniversary of 9/11!!!

Donnay I KNEW it was you!!! Excellent call -you really made good points - and hope to see you in NYC on 9/11!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: luckee1 on September 08, 2009, 01:58:55 pm
Not necessarily, JT and others have to do constant spam deletions.. that will affect post counts.  They usually do a scan/delete thing and many think their valid posts are deleted but they aren't they just moved up.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: donnay on September 08, 2009, 02:02:07 pm
Donnay I KNEW it was you!!! Excellent call -you really made good points - and hope to see you in NYC on 9/11!

 :-[ Thanks!

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 02:28:04 pm
No, that's the point. You are forced to read the whole thing before you realize it's fake.  This isn't for people like us to read, it's for the one's who haven't woke up yet.

How the HELL is it going to wake anyone up when they see that it's FAKE?

It would just piss me off that I wasted my time reading it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 02:31:47 pm
Dont let alex convince you that turning his show into a yellow journalism venue, is a good idea, I dont want any more of these fictional stories presented as fact. I will not be able to listen to his radio show from now on, without thinking that he may do it again. What if he has breaking news, and i listen to it, and it turns out to be another Boy Who Cried Wolf prank to gain media attention. I am not interested in that, Keep it real alex... so when the actual wolves come, we are prepared.

I really enjoyed the fictional interview and I am not against unleashing it on the internet, but misleading the audience that facts are true, when they are false is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: donnay on September 08, 2009, 02:31:57 pm
How the HELL is it going to wake anyone up when they see that it's FAKE?

It would just piss me off that I wasted my time reading it.

Because all the bullet points will pique people's curiosity again.  The new president made promises he has failed to keep we need to hold his feet to the fire!!!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Angry Patriot on September 08, 2009, 02:34:25 pm
I knew something was up. There was NO WAY Obama would talk about something like this. And even if he did you and I both know the story of JFK and I'm sure Obama knows too so he's not about to buck the system. Although I didn't read the authors note... which I should have. Lesson learned.

For sure, Obama knows his place
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 02:41:59 pm
I knew something was up. There was NO WAY Obama would talk about something like this. And even if he did you and I both know the story of JFK and I'm sure Obama knows too so he's not about to buck the system. Although I didn't read the authors note... which I should have. Lesson learned. That is, unless it wasn't there when I read it then added later after it was revealed on the show. Who knows...

I knew something was up, when Obama gave intelligent replies. I saw his Bill Oreilly interview and he is unable to do so on the spot, hence the scripted town meetings and controlled interviews.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: jofortruth on September 08, 2009, 03:10:54 pm
Scribd - Twenty Minutes with the President and Bibliography in one Document:
Twenty Minutes With the President (http://www.scribd.com/doc/19543261/Twenty-Minutes-With-the-President#key29mz4vc5xq33p15cqof9)


Here it is all in one document. I think if Mr. Obama is a real leader, then he should meet with these individuals and listen to what they have to say. Then he should embark on a real investigation. THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY UNTIL SOMEONE IN A SUPPOSED LEADERSHIP ROLE DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!

My thoughts go out to those who lost loved ones on 911. We will pursue a real investigation with you as long as it takes. THIS IS ANOTHER REMINDER THAT THE TRUTH ABOUT 911 HAS STILL NOT BEEN TOLD OR INVESTIGATED!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Clyde Barrow on September 08, 2009, 03:12:26 pm
How the HELL is it going to wake anyone up when they see that it's FAKE?

It would just piss me off that I wasted my time reading it.

Exactly...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 03:13:18 pm
New article

“Challenge Me On The Facts” – How Charlie Sheen Energized The 9/11 Truth Movement
http://www.prisonplanet.com/challenge-me-on-the-facts-how-charlie-sheen-energized-the-911-truth-movement.html
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: llorcan on September 08, 2009, 03:15:30 pm
An imaginary skit is supposed to be the biggest thing Alex has done in all his years of radio?

I am a little disappointed.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 03:19:27 pm

Do I , Sheen or Alex "Hollywood" Jones (as Paul Joseph Watson once called him on air) deserve access to POTUS?

AJ  is like a start struck teen around these stars!

There may be some good done from this for the truth movement, however, Sheens fall TV show will get some buzz as well.

.

this has nothing to do with the people, it has to do with the questions.

The questions are now front and center and have never been asked in eight years.

Well now they are asked!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: jofortruth on September 08, 2009, 03:21:33 pm
Exactly...

The content is NOT fake. Come on guys get with the program! This is about keeping the "WE WANT A NEW INVESTIGATION" alive because it is the anniversary again and nothing has been done that is even close to a real investigation. Get over the petty crap you're talking about here and focus on what this is really about - KEEPING THIS ALIVE, NO MATTER WHAT METHOD IS USED.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Clyde Barrow on September 08, 2009, 03:22:38 pm
An imaginary skit is supposed to be the biggest thing Alex has done in all his years of radio?

I am a little disappointed.

Yeah, his parents should have told him the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" when he was a kid.
I'm defiantly not going to be taking it seriously when talks about big announcements anymore.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:22:53 pm
this has nothing to do with the people, it has to do with the questions.

The questions are now front and center and have never been asked in eight years.

Well now they are asked!

Great questions that need to be asked - but wrong way of going about it, IMO.

I would have had CS publicly calling out Obama for a 9-11 interview, and listing the questions he wants Obama to answer.  Then hammer Obama and the government as to why these questions have not been answered.

The Sheeple and MSM already have a negative opinion of Alex and Truthers - do you think a fictitious interview is going to change their minds?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 03:23:45 pm
This thing is definitely working, I have not seen this site so fubared since the main hack a while ago.

Whatever our opinion, the NWO is considering this a major threat to their attempt to hide 9/11 truth.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:23:59 pm
The content is NOT fake. Come on guys get with the program!

It absolutely is fake, since it never happened.

Good God...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:28:01 pm
This thing is definitely working, I have not seen this site so fubared since the main hack a while ago.

Whatever our opinion, the NWO is considering this a major threat to their attempt to hide 9/11 truth.

I can't see the MSM reporting on this positively, if they cover it at all.

If they do mention it, it's going to be "crazy conspiracy theorists and 9-11 Truthers Alex Jones and Charlie Sheen publish fictitious interview with President Obama".

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: jofortruth on September 08, 2009, 03:28:16 pm
It absolutely is fake, since it never happened.

Good God...

Yes, the interview was as far as actually speaking to Obama, but the rest is real. LOOK AT THE BIBLIOGRAPHY ATTACHED. This is an OPEN LETTER to the President to start listening to the people he is supposed to work for. Do you realize how hard it would be to get past the gatekeepers to actually talk to Obama? There are tons of OPEN LETTERS on the internet stating things that people want to say to whomever. This is no different.

You are focused on the wrong thing monkeypox, thus missing the real point of this! Have you read the bibliography, and the entire letter?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 03:29:09 pm
It absolutely is fake, since it never happened.

Good God...

I think jofortruth meant the content that is linked throughout it, not the interview itself.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 03:30:00 pm
This thing is definitely working, I have not seen this site so fubared since the main hack a while ago.

Whatever our opinion, the NWO is considering this a major threat to their attempt to hide 9/11 truth.

Having infuriated prisonplanet forum go-ers become active at protesting the latest Alex Jones prank, is not a sign of a successful 9/11 truth campaign attempt to hit mainstream media with difficult questions
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 03:30:01 pm
Great questions that need to be asked - but wrong way of going about it, IMO.

I would have had CS publicly calling out Obama for a 9-11 interview, and listing the questions he wants Obama to answer.  Then hammer Obama and the government as to why these questions have not been answered.

The Sheeple and MSM already have a negative opinion of Alex and Truthers - do you think a fictitious interview is going to change their minds?

From Braveheart...

Hamish: "Where are you going?"

William: "I'm going to pick a fight."


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

These assholes need to come out from the curtains. They are attempting to forever seal the lid on the 9/11 false flag attack.  The wish it to be sealed for over 45 years like the Harriman/Bush/Rockefeller coup d'etat of 1963.

Charlie and AJ are saying "wait a minute sparky...not so fast!"
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:30:04 pm
Yes, the interview was, but LOOK AT THE BIBLIOGRAPHY ATTACHED. This is an OPEN LETTER to the President to start listening to the people he is supposed to work for. Do you realize how hard it would be to get past the gatekeepers to actually talk to Obama? There are tons of OPEN LETTERS on the internet stating things that people want to say to whomever. This is no different.

You are focused on the wrong think monkeypox, thus missing the real point of this!

I'm focusing on all the negative publicity that is going to come from this.

Stop thinking as one of us, and start thinking as a sleeping Sheeple.  How would you react to this then?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: jofortruth on September 08, 2009, 03:31:17 pm
I think jofortruth meant the content that is linked throughout it, not the interview itself.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Danis on September 08, 2009, 03:32:22 pm
In my opinion this is a bad move. If it was published for April fools day joke I would feel a little different, but this article is only going to add fuel to the arm chair warriors, who are mostly concerned with the actions of Alex Jones instead of current world events.

We'll see how this turns out. I'm guessing the mainstream media will probably not take the bait since they now know the plans set out by AJ and Charlie. Barack Obama probably wouldn't stay any longer than a few minutes if false flag terrorism is discussed.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Clyde Barrow on September 08, 2009, 03:32:52 pm
NO MATTER WHAT METHOD IS USED.



WRONG ANSWER...

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: jofortruth on September 08, 2009, 03:33:55 pm
I'm focusing on all the negative publicity that is going to come from this.

Stop thinking as one of us, and start thinking as a sleeping Sheeple.  How would you react to this then?

I don't see this as negative at all. If anything, it should make these people wake up and start reading and trying to find the facts themselves. The fact that this is still going on 8 years since 911 and weird things are happening in our country should be a wake up call. Some of the sheeple are hopeless, but others will continue to wake up as they lose their jobs, homes, money, etc etc. Keeping this out there IN ANY MANNER is important!

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:34:03 pm
Exactly!

Then you should have said that.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: NinjaPatriot on September 08, 2009, 03:34:22 pm
So....let me get this straight....

The Charlie Sheen interview of Obama was supposed to be the Huge News?  And the interview never happened?  They made it up?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: EchelonMonitor on September 08, 2009, 03:35:01 pm
I'm sorry, but I think this was a big mistake.

Sheen should have just publicly pushed for a meeting with Obama and published the questions he would like to ask.

Presenting a fictional account of the meeting he would like to have is not going to grab anyone, and it will insure that there is no possibility of the real meeting ever taking place.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 03:35:35 pm
WRONG ANSWER...



I agree with that, but this is hardly a counterproductive method.

Satire has been exposing the NWO for thousands of years. Shit Jonathon Swift exposed the entire population reduction movement 300 years ago with "A Modest Proposal".
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 03:35:54 pm
I still hold hope that Alex would not do this to the movement and has one hell of a lot more up his sleeve, He did get us this far it seems so perhaps he will somehow pull it off again.  I have seen no sign of it yet and in fact am seeing the opposite so I sure as hell hope there is more to the story.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:36:36 pm
I don't see this as negative at all. If anything, it should make these people wake up and start reading and trying to find the facts themselves. The fact that this is still going on 8 years since 911 and weird things are happening in our country should be a wake up call. Some of the sheeple are hopeless, but others will continue to wake up as they lose their jobs, homes, money, etc etc. Keeping this out there IN ANY MANNER is important!



Yeah, a fictitious interview is going to make them want to do research.

IF they take the time to read it, which given the attention span of most people these days is unlikely, then are going to be turned-off the moment they get to the end and see that it is fictitious.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Okinawa on September 08, 2009, 03:37:25 pm
Brilliant maneuver.

Charlie Sheen's letter and Alex's persistence will bring change to those awake and willing to struggle for freedom.

How will the NWO stand up to truth?

The crimes of these people are indescribable. We are accelerating towards a UNified prison grid that needs to be stopped now.

It's time to insist on the people's sovereignty over a new judicial system; it's time for indictments and trials.

It's time for action.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 03:37:53 pm
It absolutely is fake, since it never happened.

Good God...

The fictitious interview contained really critical questions that need to be answered. The disclaimer at the end is disappointing because the reader believes this was a real interview.

That was the "fake"  part...  (I agree on that Monkeypod - it was of course FAKE -- there was no interview conducted; just the hope that one would happen in the future. REALITY CHECK. Let's try to stick to facts geeze.. don't we have enough deceptions to contend with?)

So it was a gimmick to get attention - whatever - the fact that the interview contained excellent points that needed to be made was great... a good article to distribute everywhere.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 03:38:24 pm
I'm sorry, but I think this was a big mistake.

Sheen should have just publicly pushed for a meeting with Obama and published the questions he would like to ask.

Presenting a fictional account of the meeting he would like to have is not going to grab anyone, and it will insure that there is no possibility of the real meeting ever taking place.

WTF, we are not bound by the rules they have set up to stop all inquiry into massacres like 9/11.  We can use whatever methods we wish as long as they are constitutional, ethical, etc.

I hardly see this piece of satire as something counterproductive.

Who knows maybe Obama will invite AJ and Charlie to the WH for a beer.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: NinjaPatriot on September 08, 2009, 03:38:52 pm
THIS IS A COMPLETE DISASTER

ALEX WAS RIGHT

THIS IS THE HUGEST THING HE'S EVER DONE

THE COMPLETE UNDOING OF HIS CREDIBILITY

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY I WILL END MY PRISONPLANET.TV ACCOUNT

MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON HIS SOUL
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 03:39:18 pm
Once one MSM story comes out, there will be a ripple effect -- and even if it starts with belittling truthseekers, it will evolve into debate/discussion about the points raised in the "interview". I'm holding onto hope that this might just work.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:39:52 pm

Who knows maybe Obama will invite AJ and Charlie to the WH for a beer.

 :D

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Scootle on September 08, 2009, 03:39:59 pm
hmm im noticing a correlation here between the people who think this is a bad idea and the people who fail to recognise blatant 9/11 pentagon related disinfo ... im thinking we all need a lesson in psy-ops.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: jofortruth on September 08, 2009, 03:41:14 pm
Remember the bizarreness of the joker? This is just another scheme being used to get the people's attention. You guys loved the joker, right? This is no different!



Do you all see what's happening here? Instead of talking about the links and info regarding what happened on 911, the people in this thread are talking about their objection to the method used to deliver the information? OH MY! TALK ABOUT A DISTRACTION! THIS IS TOTALLY OFF POINT.

THE POINT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING IS:   what happened on 911, who did it, why no investigation, would the President ever meet with the people in these groups who have done their own investigation, etc etc etc.

 >:(



Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 03:41:55 pm

hmm im noticing a correlation here between the people who think this is a bad idea and the people who fail to recognise blatant 9/11 pentagon related disinfo ... im thinking we all need a lesson in psy-ops.


You the man Scootle, i'm gonna get some dinner... :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:42:16 pm
hmm im noticing a correlation here between the people who think this is a bad idea and the people who fail to recognise blatant 9/11 pentagon related disinfo ... im thinking we all need a lesson in psy-ops.

I think you need to stop insulting those who disagree with you.

The Pentagon has the entire military, government, and MSM behind them to spread their disinfo.

See the difference?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 03:42:27 pm
WTF, we are not bound by the rules they have set up to stop all inquiry into massacres like 9/11.  We can use whatever methods we wish as long as they are constitutional, ethical, etc.

I hardly see this piece of satire as something counterproductive.

Who knows maybe Obama will invite AJ and Charlie to the WH for a beer.

Please Sane... we'll have to arrange for 'tasters' for them if they do go.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 03:42:34 pm
I still hold hope that Alex would not do this to the movement and has one hell of a lot more up his sleeve, He did get us this far it seems so perhaps he will somehow pull it off again.  I have seen no sign of it yet and in fact am seeing the opposite so I sure as hell hope there is more to the story.

There HAS to be more. Tomorrow should be interesting methinks. :o
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 03:44:10 pm
I had mentioned previously in another thread that we need to find out if this is working at all.  Perhaps we can post screen shots and news articles as this is discussed on other sights and monitor the progress for 9/11 truth.  I have seen nothing yet but if in time it begins to work it would be nice to be able to see that progress.  A new thread perhaps?  Any suggestions for a title??  How about, evidence of charlie sheen letter giving positive results or something like that?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 03:44:50 pm
I think you need to stop insulting those who disagree with you.

The Pentagon has the entire military, government, and MSM behind them to spread their disinfo.

See the difference?

Exactly, you cant 'out lie' the machine, its insane, the only thing we can use is the truth, i accpet now that it was a tactic, but a very very poor one imo.
To be honest, it would have been fine if he posted it with the disclaimer from the start and did not spend days hyping it like it was the second coming of christ

Why the hell wasnt it just posted as it was, with a disclaimer, no hype, nothing just a normal day and a letter.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 03:50:33 pm
Whether or not Obama will meet with Sheen, this letter to Obama is a call to action. Sheen is challenging Obama, in effect saying to him "will you let these answers to my questions stand as if they was to be your answers and continue to be a big sissy puppet president or are you going to man up and give us real answers to these very real questions?" We can use this letter, send it to our congressmen, senators, post it all over the web and say that even though this interview never happened, the questions are very real and unanswered. Use it to demand the real answers, demand a new investigation into 9/11!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Scootle on September 08, 2009, 03:50:54 pm
because if he hadnt had hyped it we wouldnt have spread the interview which we believed was real at the time like wildfire...
Title: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 03:51:04 pm
http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/

When a non-9/11 truther reads the article, he has very little understanding of the events which occurred on that day. He has a basic understanding of the Government proposed explanation of what happened on 9/11 and believes that to be the truth, but he has questions and he is interested in seeing a different perspective.

So our new audience begins to read the article and awes over the questions and insights he has been presented with, he is ready to be converted, his illusion has been shattered, until... he reads at the bottom that the article is fictional, and he is hit with a dilemma:

"What parts of this article are also fictional? Are any of the facts true?"

Now the non-9/11 Truther may research the facts and come to the conclusion that they are true, but it is much more likely that he become disinterested in a 9/11 truthers perspective as their arguments are represented through fantasty.

In his mind, the 9/11 truthers use lies to push their agenda and to begin a deeper investigation into their viewpoints becomes unnecessary and a tedious waste of his time. He will not make the same mistake again, he will not be suckered into another deluded fantasy world where the government is lying to him.

GAME OVER: NWO 1 - ALEX JONES 0
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 03:51:13 pm
If the media harps on the "conspircay nut dirty and deceptive tricks" angle, we can just remind them that it was THEY who refused to listen or even consider these questions for eight damned years -- and we're tired of waiting. We're tired of following their rules. To them we're kooks no matter what we do, or no matter how we do it. You can't deny the movement the right to use innovative ways to get the world's most important subject BACK into the public mind in whatever means is required. If it backfires, so what... the song remains the same. Where's our new investigation now?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Clyde Barrow on September 08, 2009, 03:52:04 pm
I agree with that, but this is hardly a counterproductive method.



Well, we'll see soon enough.

 :-\
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 03:53:14 pm
This is fricking hilarious, can anyone explain how this is NOT a huge win in the info-wars?

The only way to attack AJ or Charlie is by reading the fricking interview.

Once you read the interview, who cares if it happened.

All of the shocking and mind boggling unanswered questions of 9/11 are in the interview.

The more I look at it, the more amazed I am at the genius in it.

WTF, every statement is sourced, concise, undebunkable, and an epiphany to anyone who does not feel the official story holds water (over 80% of America and over 95% of the rest of the world).

When people read "A Modest Proposal" in the 1700's they were shocked, then outraged that it was satire, then more outraged because they found out that the discussions in the satirical article was actually not a bad idea to the elites of the time.

Impossible to backfire, and creates a huge awakening to the monumental 8 year cover up.

Watch Core of Corruption again, Charlie only hit on a very few issues, hopefully in the next Obama interview, he will bring up the Saudi Visas, AMDOCS, ISI, John O'Niell, and thermite.

Shit there should be a once a week interview.

Also, for those around in the early daysof huffpo, she used to link to the George Washington Blog.

This method of enlightenment was standard operating procedure.

Damn, read the lyrics of "The Fletcher Memorial"...SATIRE WAKES PEOPLE UP!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: stymo1 on September 08, 2009, 03:53:41 pm
I must admit, I was dumbfounded this AM by the revelation that this was a fabricated interview. I even PM'd sane with a WTF? However after reading through the posts all day and searching I have found that this is starting to take hold, and have learned another lesson in infowars. This is the first real article I have found thus far, let's hope it is the first of many.

Charlie Sheen wants an interview with the President

http://www.examiner.com/x-16500-Lake-County-Independent-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Charlie-Sheen-wants-an-interview-with-the-President (http://www.examiner.com/x-16500-Lake-County-Independent-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Charlie-Sheen-wants-an-interview-with-the-President)


September 8, 3:09 PM
Lake County Independent Examiner
Robert Rule

With the eighth anniversary of 911 just days away Charlie Sheen like many other Americans including Obama’s former green jobs Czar, Van Jones, want to know the truth. These people are dubbed “truthers” and laughed at by the mainstream media but do they have a reason for their doubt?

There are a lot of inconsistencies that could lead someone down that road. Charlie Sheen has reportedly sent a letter to President Obama asking the President for an interview to clarify some questions he has about it. Many polls that have been taken show that almost 84% of Americans believe the Government did it. That is a pretty big number.


Many organizations have claimed to have debunked the “truther” theory like Popular Mechanics and National Geographic. The new investigation by National Geographic was inconsistent with the previous one bringing up even more questions.

Charlie Sheen is putting his whole reputation on the line with his letter because the media is like those cruel kids on the playground when it comes to people questioning their Government. What Charlie is most upset by is something no one is talking about. He really wants to know why Obama promised change and criticized every Bush policy but he now has kept every single policy made by the Bush Administration.

There are many facts that could lead one to believe the “truthers.” Charlie says he just wants some answers and he’d rather get them from the top. Here are some of the questions he has for President Obama and he has requested others to do their own personal investigations.

CS – I really wish that were the case, sir. Are you aware, Mr. President, of the recent stunning revelations that sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack?

CS – You’ll notice sir on page one of the dossier dated August of ‘06 from the Washington Post, the statements of John Farmer, senior council to the 9/11 commission, his quote stating, “I was shocked how different the truth was from the way it was described.”

CS – He goes on to further state “The [NORAD Air Defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years….”

Charlie said he has a hard time believing a couple guys with box cutters could highjack planes and fly them into the targets with such accuracy. He also can’t believe it was just a coincidence the military was training that day and NORAD was told to stand down. There was construction going on where the plane hit the Pentagon so no one was there in their offices. “There are just too many coincidences.” To the defense of Mr. Sheen the Gulf of Tonkin was a staged attack which led to the Vietnam War and that has been declassified. So was 911 an inside job?

Hopefully the media will take it easy on Charlie because after researching this story even I have some questions now. He will be on the Alex Jones radio show all this week.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ENDG4M3 on September 08, 2009, 03:57:40 pm
we can not fight the info war using THEIR tactics. It a sure setup for FAIL.

thats why no one believes the MSM - BECAUSE THEY LIE.

AJ - drop this and the hollywood bullshit. This is only dividing the great support you have here. If you want to use hollywood as a tool, let them be the fodder instead of asking us to propagate DECEPTION.

This is nothing more than DECEPTION. The Gov will ignore it, and the media will smear it. You do not get to 9/11 'TRUTH' by way of 'LIES'.

retract, reword, use a different method. OBAMA'S fake responses in the interview are superfluous. Delete them and press on... save face while you can.

If I'm wrong and this turns out well I'll admit it though.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Scootle on September 08, 2009, 03:57:49 pm
Even more genius is the fact that charlie sheen will be live on alex's show tomorrow and so will richard gage and possibly stephen jones! First time listeners are gonna tune in for charlie sheen and get all the evidence for demolition, and a debunking of the natgeo piece, from the two most credible scientific truthers.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 03:58:55 pm
Excellent post.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 04:02:12 pm
And what about the millions who have heard bits and pieces for eight years, from people like us, but never gave it much more than a fleeting thought? Many of them will be reminded -- and repetition is exactly how advertising/propaganda works. Repeat it loud enough and often enough...

Until now, those who have been only partially aware of any aspect of it have no reason to even think about it.

Now they will be reminded that it still matters.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: grapecrusher1 on September 08, 2009, 04:03:01 pm
Bill Oreilly and Charlie Sheen  (this didnt happen dont feel cheated)

Billy:  Everybody once thought you were the kid next door, the kid who brought apples to the teacher, and you pull this disgusting evil scheme, Charlie.
        What gives??

Charlie Sheen:  I know bill but we think we live in this country of democracy and fairness but that isnt the case or we would be hearing these very        legitimate concerns that were in that fictitious discourse.   The point is it should not be fictitious and the only way I saw to get it the attention it deserves is .......

etc etc etc etc

I initially thought this was a mistake -- by just reading the letter and think there should be a larger section at the bottom discussing its nature.  But that said there is more to this and people shouldnt be so quick to judge this ploy (especially after AJ's thorough explanation).  It will be interesting to watch this evolve --- if we see Sheen on mainstream shows, as alluded too, it may be pivotal.

Think a little less instant reaction and little more unfolding strategy.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:03:24 pm
we can not fight the info war using THEIR tactics. It a sure setup for FAIL.

thats why no one believes the MSM - BECAUSE THEY LIE.

AJ - drop this and the hollywood bullshit. This is only dividing the great support you have here. If you want to use hollywood as a tool, let them be the fodder instead of asking us to propagate DECEPTION.

This is nothing more than DECEPTION. The Gov will ignore it, and the media will smear it. You do not get to 9/11 'TRUTH' by way of 'LIES'.

retract, reword, use a different method. OBAMA'S fake responses in the interview are superfluous. Delete them and press on... save face while you can.

If I'm wrong and this turns out well I'll admit it though.

This is not "their tactics".

This is genius david v. goliath tactics.

Do you have any idea how hard it would be to get the publicity this is bringing to the truth?

There are no lies in the interview, only the most basic and "impossible to believe" unanswered questions as to the massacre of 9/11.

Also, the interview gave tremendous respect to Obama in the portrayal of the responses.

Even gave Obama a path to take to assist the country to actually getting on the right path. (yeah I know...a Quixotism)

Fricking genius, sheer genius!

About time we thought outside the box here. This tactic is 100% in keeping with the constitution and the basic rights of man. This is not "their tactics."

"Their tactics" involve bombing the tallest buildings in NY while hundreds of first responders are attempting to save lives. Please see the utter absurdity in the comparison.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: N.E.P. on September 08, 2009, 04:05:12 pm

All of the shocking and mind boggling unanswered questions of 9/11 are in the interview.

The more I look at it, the more amazed I am at the genius in it.


I am starting to see it that way also. I was whining and bitching because I thought that Alex was going to have a big time whistle blower on. I was thinking last night about how pissed I was going to be if it was Charlie Sheen or Bruce Willis. So when I clicked on Infowars and saw Charlie Sheen I got upset.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 04:05:41 pm
And what about the millions who have heard bits and pieces for eight years, from people like us, but never gave it much more than a fleeting thought? Many of them will be reminded -- and repetition is exactly how advertising/propaganda works. Repeat it loud enough and often enough...

Until now, those who have been only partially aware of any aspect of it have no reason to even think about it.

Now they will be reminded that it still matters.

It still adds to the impression that alex and in indirect realtion, 'tuthers' simply make things up, the MSM if they did touch it would rip it to peices.
You CANT fight the machine by trying to BE the machine, it will squash us like a frikkin bug for christs sake.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 04:06:16 pm
This is not "their tactics".

This is genius david v. goliath tactics.

Do you have any idea how hard it would be to get the publicity this is bringing to the truth?

There are no lies in the interview, only the most basic and "impossible to believe" unanswered questions as to the massacre of 9/11.

Also, the interview gave tremendous respect to Obama in the portrayal of the responses.

Even gave Obama a path to take to assist the country to actually getting on the right path.

Fricking genius, sheer genius!

About time we thought outside the box here. This tactic is 100% in keeping with the constitution and the basic rights of man. This is not "their tactics."

"Their tactics" involve bombing the tallest buildings in NY while hundreds of first responders are attempting to save lives. Please see the utter absurdity in the comparison.

Why don't you wait to see what (if anything) comes of this before you start declaring it "genius"?
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: angndon on September 08, 2009, 04:06:22 pm
Probably why Van Jones affiliation w/ 911truth was thrust into mainstream media. 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 04:06:42 pm
Even more genius is the fact that charlie sheen will be live on alex's show tomorrow and so will richard gage and possibly stephen jones! First time listeners are gonna tune in for charlie sheen and get all the evidence for demolition, and a debunking of the natgeo piece, from the two most credible scientific truthers.

And there's a big truth conference coming up in Australia in November.

Sydney: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=132959.msg802201#msg802201
Day 1 - The Hard Evidence


When: Saturday, 14th of November
Where: Tom Mann Theatre, 136 Chalmers St, Surry Hills (5 mins walk from Central Station)
Time: 9:00 am - 9:00 pm (doors open at 8:30 am for registration)
Speakers: Richard Gage (AIA) www.AE911Truth.org, Dr Steven Jones www.STJ911.org, Janice Matthews www.911Truth.org, William Rodriguez (TBC) www.william911.com plus many more!
Cost: Adult $60/Concession $30 - Press and poor free on request
Food and drinks: Limited food and drinks will be available for purchase
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: phosphene on September 08, 2009, 04:07:51 pm
chalk this 1 up as another good reminder to "read the fine print"
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:08:51 pm
Why don't you wait to see what (if anything) comes of this before you start declaring it "genius"?

DAMN IT GENIUS GENIUS GENIUS (most basic form of mind control is repetition).

Fine, maybe not genius, but definitely...

BRILLIANT!

(http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/75318/brilliant_medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: jofortruth on September 08, 2009, 04:08:53 pm
Lets put all of what happened today on the table with regard to the open letter written to Obama (Posted Above): (Yes it was pretend in his saying he met with Obama, but the research about 911 is very real and is the point of this event, and that should be focused on.)  

Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11 Cover-Up
http://www.prisonplanet.com/charlie-sheen-requests-meeting-with-obama-over-911-cover-up.html

Research included in the Open Letter to the President
http://www.prisonplanet.com/20_minutes_bibliography.html

“Challenge Me On The Facts” – How Charlie Sheen Energized The 9/11 Truth Movement
http://www.prisonplanet.com/challenge-me-on-the-facts-how-charlie-sheen-energized-the-911-truth-movement.html

Alex Jones On Charlie Sheen’s Letter To The President
http://www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jones-on-charlie-sheens-letter-to-the-president.html


Scribd Document of the Open Letter and Sources:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19543261/Twenty-Minutes-With-the-President
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 04:09:20 pm
chalk this 1 up as another good reminder to "read the fine print"

how about making that don't forget to ad the fine print lol.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 04:10:04 pm
http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/

When a non-9/11 truther reads the article, he has very little understanding of the events which occurred on that day. He has a basic understanding of the Government proposed explanation of what happened on 9/11 and believes that to be the truth, but he is interested in seeing a different perspective. So our new audience begins to read this article and becomes interested in the facts presented.

He reads the entire article in awe at the questions and insights he has been presented with, he is ready to be converted, his illusion has been shattered, until... he reads at the bottom that the article is fictional, and he is hit with a dilemma:

"What parts of this article are also fictional? Are any of the facts true?"

Now the non-9/11 Truther may research the facts and come to the conclusion that they are true, but it is much more likely that he become disinterested in a 9/11 truthers perspective as their arguments are represented through fantasty.

In his mind, the 9/11 truthers have no credibility to their articles and to begin a deeper investigation into their viewpoints becomes unnecessary and a tedious waste of his time. He will not make the same mistake again, only to be suckered into another deluded fantasy world where the government is lying to him.

GAME OVER: NWO 1 - ALEX JONES 0

I watched this happen today at work.  A guy I work with, an ardent Ron Paul supporter, but not a believer in 911 truth, read the interview then came storming over to tell me that "Alex Jones has just lost all credibility with me - that was a FAKE!" (colorful language edited out).

Maybe that's not the reaction that everyone will have... but in my view, Ron Paul supporters who don't see 911 as an inside job are as close as anyone can get to becoming a 'truther'.  This guy was not happy with being duped (even if you argue it was satire, as Sane pointed out in another thread), some people just don't like Alex, resent the 'joke' on them, and will be turned off.

I guess the question is whether the number of people who wake up to the unanswered questions will be greater than those who get ticked off. My guess is that more people will know about the unanswered questions now than ever before.. even if ticked off, they'll be curious.


Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 04:10:44 pm
DAMN IT GENIUS GENIUS GENIUS (most basic form of mind control is repetition).

Fine, maybe not genius, but definitely...

BRILLIANT!

(http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/75318/brilliant_medium.jpg)

 :D

The Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor looked like "genius" in 1941, but 4 years later, not so much.

 :)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: releasethebonds on September 08, 2009, 04:11:32 pm
what kind of stupid shit is? not real? post that warning up top ... truth movement stinks it up sometimes
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 04:11:51 pm
I watched this happen today at work.  A guy I work with, an ardent Ron Paul supporter, but not a believer in 911 truth, read the interview then came storming over to tell me that "Alex Jones has just lost all credibility with me - that was a FAKE!" (colorful language edited out).

Maybe that's not the reaction that everyone will have... but in my view, Ron Paul supporters who don't see 911 as an inside job are as close as anyone can get to becoming a 'truther'.  This guy was not happy with being duped (even if you argue it was satire, as Sane pointed out in another thread), some people just don't like Alex, resent the 'joke' on them, and will be turned off.

I guess the question is whether the number of people who wake up to the unanswered questions will be greater than those who get ticked off. My guess is that more people will know about the unanswered questions now than ever before.. even if ticked off, they'll be curious.




 So far that is what has happened with me in every case I have shown it to someone.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Matt Hatter on September 08, 2009, 04:13:14 pm
Put the F*in disclamer at the top of the page!

I emailed this out to all my friends.

As if being a 9-11 truther is hard enough, there goes MY credability, and im sure many other people who though to reference this as FACT.

Im loosing a lot of respect for Alex.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 04:13:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:13:57 pm
:D

The Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor looked like "genius" in 1941, but 4 years later, not so much.

 :)

The Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor from the very beginning was a deal between the british monarchy and Hirohito to get the US into the war and guarantee Hirohito 50 years of power.

By any stretch of the imagination either by a West Point graduate or even just a child who grew up playing cowboys and indians (hopefully no offense to anyone), it was the worst strategic strike in the history of global warfare.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:16:26 pm
Put the F*in disclamer at the top of the page!

I emailed this out to all my friends.

As if being a 9-11 truther is hard enough, there goes MY credability, and im sure many other people who though to reference this as FACT.

Im loosing a lot of respect for Alex.

dude, if your friends actually read it, they will be forever changed in a positive way concerning truth. Whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: releasethebonds on September 08, 2009, 04:16:51 pm
Put the F*in disclamer at the top of the page!

I emailed this out to all my friends.

As if being a 9-11 truther is hard enough, there goes MY credability, and im sure many other people who though to reference this as FACT.

Im loosing a lot of respect for Alex.

Got burned once ... i thought it was the 'truth' movement, not the false movement. Nice work AJ .. cancelling my PPTV.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Phantom Soldier on September 08, 2009, 04:18:42 pm
For sure, Obama knows his place

Angry Patriot, You have a PM
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: releasethebonds on September 08, 2009, 04:19:22 pm
dude, if your friends actually read it, they will be forever changed in a positive way concerning truth. Whether you like it or not.

Sane ... the message is one thing, the messenger is another. If you know anything about human psychology/behavior ... it's not what is said it's how it's presented ... this is presented as truth but it really isn't. Your standards have truly dropped.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:20:04 pm
Got burned once ... i thought it was the 'truth' movement, not the false movement. Nice work AJ .. cancelling my PPTV.


uh, WTF?

Did Jonathon Swift put a disclaimer on "A Modest Proposal"?

I sure as hell glad he did not, probably would have been less free will and human spirit in the world if he did. 

Shit if anyone who reads this is not shocked that these questions are still unanswered I would be amazed. Who cares that Obama still obstructs justice by not doing the interview. The truth is in this interview.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 04:21:41 pm
 The article is well written, well researched, and as thought-provoking as anything that has been printed on the subject. The disclaimer at the bottom, only confirms the honesty presented in the article itself... and explains everything in such a way that only a Co Intel Pro agent or an ardent Alex hater could spin it to being any kind of deceit...

The number of hits that we received this morning was so unbelievable, that the servers were flickering like incandescent lamps during a power surge. You should just admit that the tactic worked beautifully... chances are the mainstream media won't even touch it... but a quarter of a million people checked it out this morning... Co-Intel sent out over 100 of their IP's to debunk, defame, and degrade... to no avail...

The Real Score: NWO-0...  Alex & Co. 100...

In the real world Road Runner, as I have explained to you before, the Road Runner seldom wins... that's why there are so few of them and so many coyotes.

JTCoyoté

"Useless laws weaken the necessary laws.."
 ~Montesquieu
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:22:57 pm
Sane ... the message is one thing, the messenger is another. If you know anything about human psychology/behavior ... it's not what is said it's how it's presented ... this is presented as truth but it really isn't. Your standards have truly dropped.

I have no standards, integrity, or credibility. I am simply some moron who happened to be tired of the lies. This interview is not a lie, read it again. It is satire exposing truth and is a tactic used by brave defenders of the human spirit for millennium.

How the hell does this damage anyone's reputation accept anyone still pushing the bullshit "official" conspiracy theory and the epic cover up?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 04:23:04 pm


Shit if anyone who reads this is not shocked that these questions are still unanswered I would be amazed. Who cares that Obama still obstructs justice by not doing the interview. The truth is in this interview.

The sad fact is, most people who are not "Truthers" view Truthers as paranoid nut-jobs - if not downright unpatriotic.  A lot of that comes from the perception created by the MSM.

I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly don't see this changing many minds.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 04:23:58 pm
The article is well written, well researched, and as thought-provoking as anything that has been printed on the subject. The disclaimer at the bottom, only confirms the honesty presented in the article itself... and explains everything in such a way that only a Co Intel Pro agent could spin it to being any kind of deceit...

The number of hits that we received this morning was so unbelievable, that the servers were flickering like incandescent lamps during a power surge. You should just admit that the tactic worked beautifully... chances are the mainstream media won't even touch it... but a quarter of a million people checked it out this morning... Co-Intel sent out over 100 of their IP's to debunk, defame, and degrade... to no avail...

The Real Score: NWO-0...  Alex & Co. 100...

In the real world Road Runner, as I have explained to you before, the Road Runner seldom wins... that's why there are so few of them and so many coyotes.

JTCoyoté

"Useless laws weaken the necessary laws.."
 ~Montesquieu


All I gotta say is, WE SHALL SEE.

In the real world, the coyote dies just as often as the roadrunner.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Scootle on September 08, 2009, 04:25:15 pm
IF YOU THINK ALEX AND CHARLIES STUNT WILL HURT THE MOVEMENT, WAIT TILL YOU SEE THIS LATEST THING DYLAN AVERY IS INVOLVED IN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNTqKrDcARk


Wow ... Just wow ... What a horribly offensive story. I can't believe Dylan would appear in something like this.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: MrSwe on September 08, 2009, 04:25:19 pm
Im f*cking Amazed at all the idiots just complaining about this! The elite are psychos killing millions of people and this interview is a great leap forward in the infowar, since it will bring a lot of publicity!
And in an I.N.F.O.War puplicity is V.I.T.A.L!

But instead of helping this thing smash a big hole in the nwo ship, some truthers here are now starting to turn on alex, canceling prisonplanet.tv memberships and basicly just weakening the impact this new operation will have!


If it would indeed fail, it is because of all the truthers out there that just keep on bitching and never do anything usefull.

Come on! We have a New world order to crush!

Let's get this thing viral!! Will you Weaken this attack on the nwo, or will you strengten it?

Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 04:26:11 pm
The article is well written, well researched, and as thought-provoking as anything that has been printed on the subject. The disclaimer at the bottom, only confirms the honesty presented in the article itself... and explains everything in such a way that only a Co Intel Pro agent or an ardent Alex hater could spin it to being any kind of deceit...

The number of hits that we received this morning was so unbelievable, that the servers were flickering like incandescent lamps during a power surge. You should just admit that the tactic worked beautifully... chances are the mainstream media won't even touch it... but a quarter of a million people checked it out this morning... Co-Intel sent out over 100 of their IP's to debunk, defame, and degrade... to no avail...

The Real Score: NWO-0...  Alex & Co. 100...

In the real world Road Runner, as I have explained to you before, the Road Runner seldom wins... that's why there are so few of them and so many coyotes.

JTCoyoté

"Useless laws weaken the necessary laws.."
 ~Montesquieu


That's good to hear. I think that having seen the reaction of someone who felt like they were 'duped' made me wonder about the tactic. If the servers were lighting up, then we know that Alex was able to get tons of attention - and maybe a lot more people will be made aware of 911 bs.  That's the view from 1000 ft... my view was from 4' complete with colorful language. ;)
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 04:28:34 pm
All I gotta say is, WE SHALL SEE.

That's right... you, as well as all the boys and girls in the dimly lit office blocks lining the Potomac, filled with tax funded counterintelligence workstations, have got your debunking chores laid out for you on this one in a big way... good luck...

JTCoyoté

"A society that robs an individual of the product of his effort,
is not strictly speaking a society, but a mob held together
by institutionalized gang violence." ~Ayn Rand
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: _CREATIONIST_ on September 08, 2009, 04:28:59 pm
Put the F*in disclamer at the top of the page!

I emailed this out to all my friends.

As if being a 9-11 truther is hard enough, there goes MY credability, and im sure many other people who though to reference this as FACT.

Im loosing a lot of respect for Alex.

this almost happened to me. I posted the Charlie sheen interview on another forum I frequent but immediately deleted it 2 minutes after I posted it when I realized it was fake. They view me as a nutjob a Anyways and I can't take another hit to my credibility.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: rio on September 08, 2009, 04:29:34 pm
The sad fact is, most people who are not "Truthers" view Truthers as paranoid nut-jobs - if not downright unpatriotic.  A lot of that comes from the perception created by the MSM.

I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly don't see this changing many minds.

I agree; I was on Digg and there was a shitstorm. What a mess!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:30:11 pm
I do not agree with everything in the linked article, but I believe the following except is relevant:

Satirical commentary was our founding father’s stock in trade. They made fun of King George, Parliament and just about anything British. Ben Franklin was a master of wit and sarcasm.

“Fish and visitors stink after three days,” he wrote.

“Keep your eyes wide open before marriage, half shut afterwards,” which is a Franklin comment that still remains controversial.

And there are literary classes like “Animal Farm” and “Gulliver’s Travels” ranging all the way to satirical TV shows like “Monty Python” and today’s “South Park” and “Family Guy.”

All of those have been roundly criticized and even banned.

Some folks seem to have a problem even identifying satire.


http://www.murfreesboropost.com/2008/07/20/mike-west-many-americans-shy-away-from-political-satire
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: fny2 on September 08, 2009, 04:30:44 pm
I think this whole gimmick was counterproductive.

* First you kind of mislead your loyal followers into believing that this was something big and real. It seems as a bit childish to scream for attention to people that follows your radio program daily and call it a big thing when it is not.

* I don't think Obama will bother to answer the questions. The style of having him answer the questions seems to ridicule the president which probably will turn him off into taking this seriously. Obama takes himself seriously so by ridiculing him with this mock interview you are further away from any real answers from Obama.

The conspiracy people should try to be as serious and mature as possible if they want to gain credibility.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 04:30:51 pm
Im f*cking Amazed at all the idiots just complaining about this! The elite are psychos killing millions of people and this interview is a great leap forward in the infowar, since it will bring a lot of publicity!
And in an I.N.F.O.War puplicity is V.I.T.A.L!

But instead of helping this thing smash a big hole in the nwo ship, some truthers here are now starting to turn on alex, canceling prisonplanet.tv memberships and basicly just weakening the impact this new operation will have!


If it would indeed fail, it is because of all the truthers out there that just keep on bitching and never do anything usefull.

Come on! We have a New world order to crush!

Let's get this thing viral!! Will you Weaken this attack on the nwo, or will you strengten it?



If Alex murdered his entire family it would "bring a lot of publicity" too.

Yes, let's get this FAKE INTERVIEW viral!

 ::)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Matt Hatter on September 08, 2009, 04:31:30 pm
Im f*cking Amazed at all the idiots just complaining about this! The elite are psychos killing millions of people and this interview is a great leap forward in the infowar, since it will bring a lot of publicity!
And in an I.N.F.O.War puplicity is V.I.T.A.L!

But instead of helping this thing smash a big hole in the nwo ship, some truthers here are now starting to turn on alex, canceling prisonplanet.tv memberships and basicly just weakening the impact this new operation will have!


If it would indeed fail, it is because of all the truthers out there that just keep on bitching and never do anything usefull.

Come on! We have a New world order to crush!

Let's get this thing viral!! Will you Weaken this attack on the nwo, or will you strengten it?



You moron the Interview is a fake.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: gEEk squad on September 08, 2009, 04:32:12 pm
The sad fact is, most people who are not "Truthers" view Truthers as paranoid nut-jobs - if not downright unpatriotic.  A lot of that comes from the perception created by the MSM.

I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly don't see this changing many minds.

Not true at all. Many people simply don't put any thought into the matter because it is too upsetting. Think of all of the people who love Two and a Half Men who'll take an honest look at the conversation and the requisite bibliography simply because of Sheen.

The problem isn't about facts, its about relating those facts in a way that makes people comfortable with confronting those facts.

"Words have the power to both destroy and heal.
When words are both true and kind,
they can change our world."

-Gautama Siddharta
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: rio on September 08, 2009, 04:33:48 pm

You CANT fight the machine by trying to BE the machine, it will squash us like a frikkin bug for christs sake.

This is what happens when you fight the enemy on THEIR terms. Using Charlie Sheen, whether he is a good guy or not and people like him are always going to be a liability.

Bad move all around.

How much you wanna bet Mark Cuban is going to turn on you too.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:34:15 pm
The sad fact is, most people who are not "Truthers" view Truthers as paranoid nut-jobs - if not downright unpatriotic.  A lot of that comes from the perception created by the MSM.

I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly don't see this changing many minds.

It has already helped my communications with 2 friends. They read the entire interview and independently questioned the validity. I said it was satire and asked what they thought of the questions. They were open to look deeper.

It speaks to another level. Because it is satire, it removes the defensive posture of the sheeple and they can actually consider the questions rather than desperately trying to dismiss them categorically. The interview by being a satire poses no threat to their foundation of "not rocking the boat."

BRILLIANT!

GENIUS!

;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: gEEk squad on September 08, 2009, 04:34:47 pm
You moron the Interview is a fake.

You are dense. That was the point. It is the conversation that someone should have with the President.

No one, at any time said that the interview had happened. You and many others simply made that up in your mind.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:35:54 pm
If Alex murdered his entire family it would "bring a lot of publicity" too.

Yes, let's get this FAKE INTERVIEW viral!

 ::)

Uh, now that comment seems utterly counterproductive, lacks sanity, and is really, really hateful.

WTF?

That ain't satire, that is just plain f**king nasty mean.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: MrSwe on September 08, 2009, 04:36:56 pm
You moron the Interview is a fake.

It's not about the interview!

The fake obama interview is just a veichle to bring the truth to as many people as possible! Is that so incredibly hard to get?

The importance is what is written in the interview. And a lot of people will read that.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 04:37:43 pm
The article is well written, well researched, and as thought-provoking as anything that has been printed on the subject. The disclaimer at the bottom, only confirms the honesty presented in the article itself... and explains everything in such a way that only a Co Intel Pro agent or an ardent Alex hater could spin it to being any kind of deceit...

The number of hits that we received this morning was so unbelievable, that the servers were flickering like incandescent lamps during a power surge. You should just admit that the tactic worked beautifully... chances are the mainstream media won't even touch it... but a quarter of a million people checked it out this morning... Co-Intel sent out over 100 of their IP's to debunk, defame, and degrade... to no avail...

The Real Score: NWO-0...  Alex & Co. 100...

In the real world Road Runner, as I have explained to you before, the Road Runner seldom wins... that's why there are so few of them and so many coyotes.

JTCoyoté

"Useless laws weaken the necessary laws.."
 ~Montesquieu


Have you considered that those people lighting up the servers may have left with a negative impression of Alex Jones/Truthers?  And that the next time Alex hypes some "major" story, they won't bother coming back?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 04:37:48 pm
Comment:

"You moron the Interview is a fake."


reply:

"You are dense."

I just love this forum :) A place to vent when needed.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Modzilla_Kicker on September 08, 2009, 04:39:13 pm
STUPID, ANGRY truthers talking about DAMAGED CREDIBILITY. GIVE ME A BREAK.

First, the one who came up with this is not AJ himself. It's an a PROFESSIONAL COMEDIAN, AN ACTOR. Colbert is known for his acting more than anything else. CHARLIE SHEEN is known for that, and for being a Truther secondarily, and perhaps for being a family man, and so on. AJ is backing AN ARTIST for something he came up with on his own.

Second, for all those who're still living in their cocoons of trutherdom, well, wake up, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED. It's no longer the 90's, or 2003. We are not the wackos, the conspiracy theorists, the tin-foil hat kooks ANYMORE. We have to live up to OUR NEW STATUS. We, as a whole, are the MAINSTREAM, the biggest GROUP, among the many factions of the old paradigm. We cannot WORRY as much as we did about how to APPEAR credible ANYMORE. Because we ARE. We have the track record. Those who, DESPITE all what has transpired in the last few months, ARE STILL DELUSIONAL don't deserve that much of our respect and our circumspection. They will wake up by FORCE, either by OUR AGGRESSIVE MEDIA CAMPAIGN OR BY THE NWO HITTING THEM. We cannot be besieged in our tactics BY continuing along the OLD PARADIGM of trying to APPEAR legitimate. WE ARE. NO MATTER WHAT. WE ARE. GET THIS through your head. And through the heads of your supposed friends who haven't woken up to reality by now. (Most of you complaining are liars, I know.)
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 04:40:07 pm
That's right... you and all the boys and girls in the dimly lit office blocks lining the Potomac, filled with tax funded counterintelligence workstations, have got your debunking chores laid out for you on this one in a big way... good luck...


That's the best news. (Get busy you little turds... there's more coming ...)

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: lavosslayer on September 08, 2009, 04:41:35 pm
You are dense. That was the point. It is the conversation that someone should have with the President.

No one, at any time said that the interview had happened. You and many others simply made that up in your mind.

haha talk about an inconvenient truth! I had to deal with it this morning but I am alive and well and better off for it!

Seems like a lot of people still have yet to realize it...sadly some never will
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Satyagraha on September 08, 2009, 04:41:51 pm
There were more people on the forum today than I've ever seen. Twice as many as usual I think...
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Donovan on September 08, 2009, 04:42:08 pm
That's right... you and all the boys and girls in the dimly lit office blocks lining the Potomac, filled with tax funded counterintelligence workstations, have got your debunking chores laid out for you on this one in a big way... good luck...

JTCoyoté


Oh come on this f*cking stupid.  So anyone who disagrees or doesnt like the way things turned out today is a government agent?  So no one is allowed to give an opposing view or criticism anymore without being trashed as a cointel agent or a troll?

Isnt the whole point behind the truth movement and fight against tyranny simply to find the truth and expose the truths.  The truth by itself is all you need.  Lies and fabricated make-believe stories or fantasies arent needed, and only paves the way for more lies, more coverups and more confusion.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:42:37 pm
I think this whole gimmick was counterproductive.

* First you kind of mislead your loyal followers into believing that this was something big and real. It seems as a bit childish to scream for attention to people that follows your radio program daily and call it a big thing when it is not.

Aww, poor baby, do you want me to get you a bottle?  WTF? You are serious? You are really so sensitive that the entire events of 9/11 and the cover up are less important than getting your feelings hurt?  Our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters are being exterminated and dehumanized while being deceived into committing genocide for elite madmen.  I think we can overlook our short term event of being "misled" and focus on creating a bigger awakening to the truth about 9/11. Just my opinion.

Quote
* I don't think Obama will bother to answer the questions. The style of having him answer the questions seems to ridicule the president which probably will turn him off into taking this seriously. Obama takes himself seriously so by ridiculing him with this mock interview you are further away from any real answers from Obama.

The whole point is that Obama is not answering basic questions required to be answered by our government.

By not having responses to these basic questions, the government is guilty of obstruction of justice to the greatest terror massacre in US history.

The conspiracy people should try to be as serious and mature as possible if they want to gain credibility.
[/quote]

First...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Scootle on September 08, 2009, 04:43:01 pm
Its no different to a famous comedian making up some sketch about how he plans to start a demolition company using fire as his tool to satirize the collapse of WTC7. Obviously it would be fiction but it would still wake people up to the aburdity of the thermal expansion theory.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 04:43:48 pm
Have you considered that those people lighting up the servers may have left with a negative impression of Alex Jones/Truthers?  And that the next time Alex hypes some "major" story, they won't bother coming back?

I have already seen this happen many times today. 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 04:43:50 pm
Uh, now that comment seems utterly counterproductive, lacks sanity, and is really, really hateful.

WTF?

That ain't satire, that is just plain f**king nasty mean.

Makes a valid point though.  Negative publicity will not help anything.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chrisfromchi on September 08, 2009, 04:44:11 pm
I don't see what the problem really is. I wasn't waiting for a day for this info like some of the detractors here were last night...that was fun.
So this was interesting watching what was happening on the internet on this forum and the ATS website.

Like you guys can't rewrite it with just 20 bullet point questions for yourselves? everyone of those are hardcore questions.

What do you want? a video? a free movie? a smoking gun to make it those you tell stuff to suddenly believe you?

How are you going to go back in time to change things to be the way you want? Is 9/11 not an inside job now cause Charlie sheen?

Isn't by all this mean that Charlie Sheen is now the spokesman of 9/11 truth? He is really a huge celebrity.

Whats the problem? is it cause you all were hoping that today was the day you'd get the information to change the world? Is it disappointment?

I'm looking forward to when Charlie is on the show again and maybe there he can read out his 20 questions point by point like in his letter.



Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 04:45:02 pm
All I gotta say is, WE SHALL SEE.

In the real world, the coyote dies just as often as the roadrunner.

In your dreams.... now go away Duke's already eaten... unless of course you are suggesting something else.

--Oldyoti

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom;
and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more,
it will lose that, too."
~Somerset Maugham
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 04:45:48 pm
STUPID, ANGRY truthers talking about DAMAGED CREDIBILITY. GIVE ME A BREAK.

First, the one who came up with this is not AJ himself. It's an a PROFESSIONAL COMEDIAN, AN ACTOR. Colbert is known for his acting more than anything else. CHARLIE SHEEN is known for that, and for being a Truther secondarily, and perhaps for being a family man, and so on. AJ is backing AN ARTIST for something he came up with on his own.

Second, for all those who're still living in their cocoons of trutherdom, well, wake up, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED. It's no longer the 90's, or 2003. We are not the wackos, the conspiracy theorists, the tin-foil hat kooks ANYMORE. We have to live up to OUR NEW STATUS. We, as a whole, are the MAINSTREAM, the biggest GROUP, among the many factions of the old paradigm. We cannot WORRY as much as we did about how to APPEAR credible ANYMORE. Because we ARE. We have the track record. Those who, DESPITE all what has transpired in the last few months, ARE STILL DELUSIONAL don't deserve that much of our respect and our circumspection. They will wake up by FORCE, either by OUR AGGRESSIVE MEDIA CAMPAIGN OR BY THE NWO HITTING THEM. We cannot be besieged in our tactics BY continuing along the OLD PARADIGM of trying to APPEAR legitimate. WE ARE. NO MATTER WHAT. WE ARE. GET THIS through your head. And through the heads of your supposed friends who haven't woken up to reality by now. (Most of you complaining are liars, I know.)

Well about time you showed up butthead, I have been trying to communicate the same message but lack your literary talents.  Now keep contributing damn it!

[In case you cannot speak sanese (as others have called it), that was meant to be a compliment]
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 04:46:15 pm
We have not even hit an all time forum count at one time with this one at least not yet.  And these are people in the know to one degree or another. 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Valerius on September 08, 2009, 04:51:35 pm
But, is Obama real?
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 04:53:33 pm
Oh come on this f*cking stupid.  So anyone who disagrees or doesnt like the way things turned out today is a government agent?  So no one is allowed to give an opposing view or criticism anymore without being trashed as a cointel agent or a troll?

Isnt the whole point behind the truth movement and fight against tyranny simply to find the truth and expose the truths.  The truth by itself is all you need.  Lies and fabricated make-believe stories or fantasies arent needed, and only paves the way for more lies, more coverups and more confusion.

Seems to be the case, well atleast in JT's eyes. I am not against the article, I love the facts it presents and the fictional encounter, but I don't see the necessity to lie about it.

I'd see the article as a extremely well written hit piece against the current administration if they had simply placed the following disclaimer on top.

Quote
"The following article is a fictional representation of what it would be like if the President were to be confronted with the unanswered questions surrounding 9/11. Although this interview never actually occurred, these questions are based on real observations and facts associated with the event. We hope to make this interview a reality, so please spread this article to all that are interested in finding out what really happened on that day"

People would get behind the truth, and spread the article to their friends. I suggest if you decide to send the article to your friends, you add this disclaimer before they reach the hyperlink.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: spangler on September 08, 2009, 04:55:32 pm
The conspiracy people should try to be as serious and mature as possible if they want to gain credibility.

You mean the people parroting the government's 9/11 conspiracy theories?
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 04:56:27 pm
It still adds to the impression that alex and in indirect realtion, 'tuthers' simply make things up, the MSM if they did touch it would rip it to peices.
You CANT fight the machine by trying to BE the machine, it will squash us like a frikkin bug for christs sake.

Well I guess I get to earn my salt today...

You do not become like the machine by being honest... There is no dishonesty in an editorial commentary that utilizes a hypothetical situation. An editorial that lays out in reality, the actual facts, factually-based questions, everything upfront and above board... the only hypothetical, is the event that surrounds all of this reality... namely the meeting with the President. The other hypotheticals are the president's comments, or answers to the questions.

A detailed disclaimer follows the main article explaining not only the fact that it is a hypothetical, but also the reasons for writing the article as a hypothetical as well...

This isn't like becoming the machine at all, nor is it even loosely like the machine in any way...   the machine would make you believe that it was true, and do everything in its power to make you believe it was true...The machine would even follow it up with future articles telling you it was true...  If you can't see that difference, then you haven't been paying attention.

--Oldyoti

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can
vote themselves largess out of the public treasury."
attributed to ~ Alexander Tytler
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: stymo1 on September 08, 2009, 04:57:15 pm
All I gotta say is, WE SHALL SEE.

In the real world, the coyote dies just as often as the roadrunner.

You watched believed way too many roadrunner cartoons as a child. This is starting to show some fruit. Only 1 article, but it is not a hit piece, and it is hopefully the first of many to come.

Charlie Sheen wants an interview with the President

http://www.examiner.com/x-16500-Lake-County-Independent-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Charlie-Sheen-wants-an-interview-with-the-President (http://www.examiner.com/x-16500-Lake-County-Independent-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Charlie-Sheen-wants-an-interview-with-the-President)


September 8, 3:09 PM
Lake County Independent Examiner
Robert Rule

With the eighth anniversary of 911 just days away Charlie Sheen like many other Americans including Obama’s former green jobs Czar, Van Jones, want to know the truth. These people are dubbed “truthers” and laughed at by the mainstream media but do they have a reason for their doubt?

There are a lot of inconsistencies that could lead someone down that road. Charlie Sheen has reportedly sent a letter to President Obama asking the President for an interview to clarify some questions he has about it. Many polls that have been taken show that almost 84% of Americans believe the Government did it. That is a pretty big number.

Many organizations have claimed to have debunked the “truther” theory like Popular Mechanics and National Geographic. The new investigation by National Geographic was inconsistent with the previous one bringing up even more questions.

Charlie Sheen is putting his whole reputation on the line with his letter because the media is like those cruel kids on the playground when it comes to people questioning their Government. What Charlie is most upset by is something no one is talking about. He really wants to know why Obama promised change and criticized every Bush policy but he now has kept every single policy made by the Bush Administration.

There are many facts that could lead one to believe the “truthers.” Charlie says he just wants some answers and he’d rather get them from the top. Here are some of the questions he has for President Obama and he has requested others to do their own personal investigations.


CS – I really wish that were the case, sir. Are you aware, Mr. President, of the recent stunning revelations that sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack?

CS – You’ll notice sir on page one of the dossier dated August of ‘06 from the Washington Post, the statements of John Farmer, senior council to the 9/11 commission, his quote stating, “I was shocked how different the truth was from the way it was described.”

CS – He goes on to further state “The [NORAD Air Defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years….”

Charlie said he has a hard time believing a couple guys with box cutters could highjack planes and fly them into the targets with such accuracy. He also can’t believe it was just a coincidence the military was training that day and NORAD was told to stand down. There was construction going on where the plane hit the Pentagon so no one was there in their offices. “There are just too many coincidences.” To the defense of Mr. Sheen the Gulf of Tonkin was a staged attack which led to the Vietnam War and that has been declassified. So was 911 an inside job?

Hopefully the media will take it easy on Charlie because after researching this story even I have some questions now. He will be on the Alex Jones radio show all this week.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 04:58:01 pm
A disclaimer was put up after the fact.  That is where the trouble began.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 04:59:42 pm
Stymo what is that site anyway? Is it from an actual paper or just on a web page.?
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 04:59:54 pm
Well I guess I get to earn my salt today...

You do not become like the machine by being honest... There is no dishonesty in an editorial commentary that utilizes a hypothetical situation. An editorial that lays out in reality, the actual facts, factually-based questions, everything upfront and above board... the only hypothetical, is the event that surrounds all of this reality... namely the meeting with the President. The other hypotheticals are the president's comments, or answers to the questions.

A detailed disclaimer follows the main article explaining not only the fact that it is a hypothetical, but also the reasons for writing the article as a hypothetical as well...

Now theres a disclaimer, there was no disclaimer for quite some time if your anaware of that.
Id be much happier if it had been posted with to start with.

Add to this the hyping before hand, alex saying he might be target because of 'what he knew' telling us that he had people ready, to spread this 'sensational news' everywhere if they didnt hear from him, hype hype hype, huge announcement blah blah

then the post of the 'interveiw'
then 40 mins later, addition of disclaimer
Then special guest will also be Charlie sheen, talking about the 'interview' that never took place.

I mean cmon.

Quote
This isn't like becoming the machine at all, nor is it even loosely like the machine in any way...   the machine would make you believe that it was true, and do everything in its power to make you believe it was true...The machine would even follow it up with future articles telling you it was true...  If you can't see that difference, then you haven't been paying attention.

Is it all that different? the MSM news just use much bigger lies and very slowly change the story slightly closer to the truth until its dropped anyway, most never even notice.

You thought disclaimer was there all along huh? interesting.
Title: Barack Obama, Charlie Sheen, Van Jones, and the 9/11 Truther Movement
Post by: Matthew on September 08, 2009, 05:00:41 pm
I'm getting really sick of lazy journalism.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2153283/barack_obama_charlie_sheen_van_jones.html

According to the Prison Planet blog, actor Charlie Sheen is demanding a meeting with President Barack Obama in order to demand that an investigation be opened over whether the Bush administration was directly involved in the 9/11 attacks.

This bit of news might be just another example of an overly egotistical actor thinking that his role as an aging lothario on Two and a Half Men buys him face time with the President of the United States. However, with the eighth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks coming up and the revelation that the now former White House Green Jobs Czar Van Jones was himself a 9/11 truther focuses attention on the new paranoid style of American politics. But this time the paranoids are not right wingers seeing commies under the bed. The paranoids are left wingers seeing Bush administration operatives under the rubble of 9/11.

Like many conspiracy theories, the 9/11 Truther movement stems from a combination of ignorance of science and history and a political agenda that has sent a group of people around the bend. People believe that the Bush administration engineered 9/11 because, as the slogan made famous by the TV show The X Files stated, they want to believe. They want to believe that George W. Bush was both nefarious enough and clever enough to slay three thousand human beings, make it look like a group of enraged Muslims did it, then use the event as an excuse to create an empire in the Middle East in order to grab all of the oil. Or it is something like that.

A now famous article in Popular Mechanics thoroughly debunked the 9/11 Truther conspiracy theory. However a casual attention to Occam's Razor should be sufficient to laugh off the idea that the US Government, which has done most things incompetently, pulled off the mother of all false flag operations.

But reason and logic are really not things that need enter into a conspiracy theory like 9/11 Trutherism. People who embrace 9/11 Trutherism do so because they find the current world situation intolerable. The United States is engaged in a long war with Islamofascist terrorism and will be for the foreseeable future. Even Barack Obama, not the most bellicose President when it comes to actual enemies of the United States, has resigned himself to continuing most of the policies of George W. Bush.

Having found the current situation intolerable, 9/11 Truthers reject the idea that it was inevitable, brought on by the tides of history and the mistakes of previous administrations, but rather some cabal did it to us. The sad part, though, as Jonah Goldberg points out, 9/11 Trutherism is becoming mainstream among the Left. Considering what else the Left believes, that should not be too surprising.

Sources: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11 Cover-Up, Alex Jones, Prison Planet, September 8th, 2009

Van Jones a 9/11 'Truther', Mark R. Whittington, Associated Content, September 4th, 2009

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report, Popular Mechanics, March, 2005

How Sad, Jonah Goldberg, National Review Online, September 8th, 2009
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: NWOisevil on September 08, 2009, 05:00:47 pm
Is it just me or do the journalism standards on www.infowars.com really need to be tightened?  This article should not have been allowed to be published in the way that it did.  I saw the original just a second ago- and- while I don't think anyone should have believed that Charly Sheen interviewed BHO, I find it a bit disturbing that it was reported as fact.

Still though, why so much fake outrage?  I don't think it was THAT BAD... I've seen worse things on the internet.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 05:02:57 pm
You watched believed way too many roadrunner cartoons as a child. This is starting to show some fruit. Only 1 article, but it is not a hit piece, and it is hopefully the first of many to come.

Dont tell me what I did as a kid or what I believe. You had sex with too many goats and have too many hillary clinton posters in your closet, YEAH!! TAKE THAT! I can make shit up too!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 05:03:49 pm
STUPID, ANGRY truthers talking about DAMAGED CREDIBILITY. GIVE ME A BREAK.

First, the one who came up with this is not AJ himself. It's an a PROFESSIONAL COMEDIAN, AN ACTOR. Colbert is known for his acting more than anything else. CHARLIE SHEEN is known for that, and for being a Truther secondarily, and perhaps for being a family man, and so on. AJ is backing AN ARTIST for something he came up with on his own.

Second, for all those who're still living in their cocoons of trutherdom, well, wake up, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED. It's no longer the 90's, or 2003. We are not the wackos, the conspiracy theorists, the tin-foil hat kooks ANYMORE. We have to live up to OUR NEW STATUS. We, as a whole, are the MAINSTREAM, the biggest GROUP, among the many factions of the old paradigm. We cannot WORRY as much as we did about how to APPEAR credible ANYMORE. Because we ARE. We have the track record. Those who, DESPITE all what has transpired in the last few months, ARE STILL DELUSIONAL don't deserve that much of our respect and our circumspection. They will wake up by FORCE, either by OUR AGGRESSIVE MEDIA CAMPAIGN OR BY THE NWO HITTING THEM. We cannot be besieged in our tactics BY continuing along the OLD PARADIGM of trying to APPEAR legitimate. WE ARE. NO MATTER WHAT. WE ARE. GET THIS through your head. And through the heads of your supposed friends who haven't woken up to reality by now. (Most of you complaining are liars, I know.)

Evidence please ??? I complained,prove I am a liar or will you be posting your disclaimer in about 40 minutes times ???

"We as a whole are the mainstream" ??? really and here we are still asking for people to look at the facts in the hope of a reinvestigation,thats right I seem to have forgotten all the attention 9/11 is getting in the mainstream you apparently think we are part of. 
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 05:04:47 pm
Is it just me or do the journalism standards on www.infowars.com really need to be tightened?  This article should not have been allowed to be published in the way that it did.  I saw the original just a second ago- and- while I don't think anyone should have believed that Charly Sheen interviewed BHO, I find it a bit disturbing that it was reported as fact.

Still though, why so much fake outrage?  I don't think it was THAT BAD... I've seen worse things on the internet.

Because it was massively hyped as though it were the second coming of jesus, the 'biggest thing ive ever done' 'huge important guest' according to alex.
And it turns out to be....this.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 05:06:41 pm
Seems to be the case, well atleast in JT's eyes. I am not against the article, I love the facts it presents and the fictional encounter, but I don't see the necessity to lie about it.

I'd see the article as a extremely well written hit piece against the current administration if they had simply placed the following disclaimer on top.

People would get behind the truth, and spread the article to their friends. I suggest if you decide to send the article to your friends, you add this disclaimer before they reach the hyperlink.

No, it is not a lie, it is satire. You seem to be confused between the two.

Encyclopedia > Satire
http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Satire

Satire is strictly a literary genre, although it is found in the graphic and performing arts as well as the printed word. In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with an intent to bring about improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humor in itself so much as an attack on something of which the author strongly disapproves, using the weapon of wit.

A very common, almost defining feature of satire is its strong vein of irony or sarcasm, but parody, burlesque, exaggeration, juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing. The essential point, however, is that "in satire, irony is militant"[2]. This "militant irony" (or sarcasm) often professes to approve the very things the satirist actually wishes to attack.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 05:07:05 pm
Seems to be the case, well atleast in JT's eyes. I am not against the article, I love the facts it presents and the fictional encounter, but I don't see the necessity to lie about it.

I'd see the article as a extremely well written hit piece against the current administration if they had simply placed the following disclaimer on top.

People would get behind the truth, and spread the article to their friends. I suggest if you decide to send the article to your friends, you add this disclaimer before they reach the hyperlink.

If the disclaimer would've been placed at the top, most people would never read the article... the honesty is in the disclaimer itself, even at the bottom...

As soon as the mainstream media starts disclaiming their lies and deception anywhere within the body of an article, or the top or the bottom, then I'm sure you can talk Kurt and Paul into placing a disclaimer at the top of the "once in a blue moon" hypothetical editorial... I think this is the very first one they've done... judging from the response, we need to do more just like it.

Going to have to work a lot harder at dissuading opinion, here Road-Runner... the fact that I only see you and a couple of the other guys here when something needs to be debunked... that betrays you my friend.

JTCoyoté

"A patriot must always be ready to defend
his country against his government."
~Edward Abbey
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 05:07:42 pm
http://www.gcnlive.com/ListenLive/windowsmedia32Ntwk2.asx

Rivero's on...
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Donovan on September 08, 2009, 05:07:42 pm


Still though, why so much fake outrage?  I don't think it was THAT BAD... I've seen worse things on the internet.

Its because when you have so many sources (TV, News, Papers, Websites) that spew out garbage/propaganda/lies that at least you'd like to know of a place that wont jerk you around and give you the straight facts and straight truth.

So now what are people going to think.  Should they believe all the stories on infowars and prisplanet, or not.  Are they the truth, or a twisted version of the truth to a make point.

Thats where the confusion begins, and then the place where people went to get the truth suddenly becomes a place where you have to treat it the same way as the MSM.

Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: stymo1 on September 08, 2009, 05:07:42 pm
A disclaimer was put up after the fact.  That is where the trouble began.

I had the same problem with it when I first saw it. But then thought about it a while, and now I can see the why part of it. The anniversary is only days away, and nobody talks about it (911) any more but us. Even being a fake interview, many key yet unanswered questions were brought back out into the open and will have to be dealt with again. More people will be seeing these unanswered questions, complete with data links, than would have had it not been done. 

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 05:11:51 pm
C'mon...2,000 thread reads by 10pm CST!
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: stymo1 on September 08, 2009, 05:12:22 pm
Dont tell me what I did as a kid or what I believe. You had sex with too many goats and have too many hillary clinton posters in your closet, YEAH!! TAKE THAT! I can make shit up too!

You didnt watch roadrunner cartoons? :o

Goats? HAHAHA....... Obaaaaaaaaaaaaama!
That Hillary thing was kind of mean spirited though. >:(
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 05:13:40 pm
I am slayed dead by all the "disappointed" folks. I mean, what is the deal? What WOULD have satisfied you?

At the end of the day, when all was said and done, I was actually more blown away by AJ's statement that he spends 30,000 a month JUST ON BANDWIDTH to keep the infowar train ramming down the tracks into the NWO's back yard.  
 
I mean, that's a rare level of unstoppable dedication and full on commitment.  

I also appreciate this psy-op.  To hell with all the unrequited expectations voiced on this forum.  I know enough about life to know that there's a mysterious component to every action, you never know what's going to happen with it.  I don't pretend to even know.  I do know good intentions and dedication when I see it, and that is NEVER wasted.

IMO the psy op has already worked.  It has regenerated discussion around (and I don't care if it's under, over, around or THROUGH) the single most important (and criminally unresolved) topic OF THIS CENTURY
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: TheCaliKid on September 08, 2009, 05:13:48 pm

Shouldn't you change that from "doesn't" to "won't"?


If ever Alex got behind a stinker, this is it.


Sorry if I offend anyone, just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: releasethebonds on September 08, 2009, 05:14:32 pm
Infowars /Prison Planet Forum is not KNOWN FOR SATIRE! Don't you get it? I almost posted that on forum.

EPIC FAIL OF EPIC PROPORTIONS... AS RON PAUL SAYS 'BLOWBACK'
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 05:17:29 pm
Now theres a disclaimer, there was no disclaimer for quite some time if your anaware of that.
Id be much happier if it had been posted with to start with.

Add to this the hyping before hand, alex saying he might be target because of 'what he knew' telling us that he had people ready, to spread this 'sensational news' everywhere if they didnt hear from him, hype hype hype, huge announcement blah blah

then the post of the 'interveiw'
then 40 mins later, addition of disclaimer
Then special guest will also be Charlie sheen, talking about the 'interview' that never took place.

I mean cmon.

Is it all that different? the MSM news just use much bigger lies and very slowly change the story slightly closer to the truth until its dropped anyway, most never even notice.

You thought disclaimer was there all along huh? interesting.

Yeah you guys were watching that real close weren't you... the article was put up and saved to the page in three stages, beginning at eight o'clock this morning... if you would take the time to read it, it is a huge article, takes almost 20 minutes or so to read every word... the photos were added as well as the disclaimer at the end of the process, this was about 8:30 to 8:45 AM...

Yep you guys are watching us real close aren't you... the whole thing was supposed to be up and ready to go by 9 AM as it was touted on the radio show all day yesterday... I think we made it don't you...

fascists ::)

JTCoyoté

"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not
as sacred as the law of God, and that there is not a force of law
and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.  
~John Adams
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: stymo1 on September 08, 2009, 05:18:31 pm
I am slayed dead by all the "disappointed" folks. I mean, what is the deal? What WOULD have satisfied you?

At the end of the day, when all was said and done, I was actually more blown away by AJ's statement that he spends 30,000 a month JUST ON BANDWIDTH to keep the infowar train ramming down the tracks into the NWO's back yard.  
 
I mean, that's a rare level of unstoppable dedication and full on commitment.  

I also appreciate this psy-op.  To hell with all the unrequited expectations voiced on this forum.  I know enough about life to know that there's a mysterious component to every action, you never know what's going to happen with it.  I don't pretend to even know.  I do know good intentions and dedication when I see it, and that is NEVER wasted.

IMO the psy op has already worked.  It has regenerated discussion around (and I don't care if it's under, over, around or THROUGH) the single most important (and criminally unresolved) topic OF THIS CENTURY

WHAT SHE SAID X 2!
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 05:18:58 pm
I feel that same way Dawn, however we now have to make the best of it and hope he has  a hell of a lot more up his sleeve on this one.  We will know very soon one way or the other.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ekimdrachir on September 08, 2009, 05:19:30 pm
The truth will set you free, don't be afraid of it being revealled, and it is making everyone think, about charlie sheen meeting, or rather wanting to meet, barack obama. Chances are, obama has already read this article! So it was a success!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Modzilla_Kicker on September 08, 2009, 05:22:29 pm
Evidence please ??? I complained,prove I am a liar or will you be posting your disclaimer in about 40 minutes times ???

"We as a whole are the mainstream" ??? really and here we are still asking for people to look at the facts in the hope of a reinvestigation,thats right I seem to have forgotten all the attention 9/11 is getting in the mainstream you apparently think we are part of. 

As far as mainstream is concerned, why do you think the NWO had to put a G Beck on one of their propaganda outlets to fakely champion the same causes that WE THE NEW MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE AND ACTIVISTS have been doing, and growing exponentially doing so? We have so many gauges to know the pulse of the nation, and the polls are just one. Gun sales are another. Activism is another. Talking about activism, we have the MOST activists than the NWO's factions combined. HANDS DOWN. I'm not talking about the sheeple or non-activists who will bother to show up for a concert or a political rally for fun. If you know anything about the sociology of politics, the activists are usually the minority in the overall population, the by-standers are the majority. Well, we have the majority of the minority to our side. DEAL WITH IT.

Second, I said "most are liars." If that struck a chord with you, i'm sorry. Do some introinspection and come back later. Anyway, I started my lecture addressing two types of truthers: a) STUPID, who cannot understand what move is credible at one time and will not appear so at other times. b) ANGRY, I understand the feeling of many who used to be respected by friends for being the source of news as if from the heavens. I am in the same boat. BUT, friends, we are at crucial points in the infowar. There isn't much time left, this one move could mean a lot, IF WE DECIDE TO GET OVER THE DISAPPOINTMENT and use it to MAXIMIZE its effect. I wouldn't back such moves were it done at a time when we had to prove our credibility. What this move is intended for is not that, it's to use our acquired credibility, i.e. the MEDIA POWER OF AJ in 2009, to force the other side to cover our AGENDA. WE ARE THE AGENDA SETTERS NOW. They used to. Not ANYMORE. "ARRRRRGGGGG".
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 05:23:56 pm
Did anyone notice the BBC's headline article, WHICH CAME OUT TODAY!  which imo makes the Aj psy op all the more powerful; I mean this coincidence is a god send:

BBC REPORT: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8244065.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8244065.stm)


More plane terror plots 'likely'

 

Al-Qaeda is likely to try again to use aircraft to attack the West, Whitehall officials have told the BBC.

Security correspondent Frank Gardner said they believed the airline bomb plot was part of al-Qaeda's "obsession" with using commercial airliners.

The warning comes after three British men were convicted of plotting to blow up flights from London to North America using bombs disguised as soft drinks.

Defence expert Michael Clarke agreed that al-Qaeda was "still plotting".

On Monday, Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 28, Tanvir Hussain, 28, and Assad Sarwar, 29, were found guilty at Woolwich Crown Court after the UK's largest ever counter-terrorism operation

Their arrests in 2006 changed the face of air travel, prompting the introduction of restrictions on the carriage of liquids.

UK intelligence officers believe the plot was directed by al-Qaeda figures in Pakistan, including a British man - Rashid Rauf - from Birmingham, now thought to be dead.

'Soft targets'
   
ANALYSIS
Daniel Sandford
Daniel Sandford, home affairs correspondent

Essentially, the rules in British courts are that you cannot use intercept material as evidence in a trial - except in very exceptional circumstances.

There has been a lot of pressure already to start introducing it - particularly in terrorism trials where people may have been detained or kept under control orders because of such evidence.

In the first airline trial the jury were deadlocked, but in the second trial when these fascinating e-mails communicating between the plot's leaders and Pakistan were introduced, there was no such deadlock.

These e-mails were not intercepted - they were taken off the Yahoo server in America - but it shows, people are saying, that intercept-type evidence works.
Liquid bomb plot: What happened
Airlines bomb plot: The e-mails
Profiles: Airline plot accused
Will airport restrictions continue?

Prof Clarke, director of defence think tank the Royal United Services Institute, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that al-Qaeda was more "marginalised" now than in the past, but still posed a threat to the West.

"There's no doubt there are people in the tribal areas on the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan who have tried these plots," he said.

"There were four or five big plots and they've all come to light in the UK. They haven't worked, but they're still plotting."

Commercial airliners, he said, were also "very soft targets", adding: "If it's possible to get a bomb onto an airliner then it's a goner."

Sajjan Gohel, from think tank the Asia-Pacific Foundation, said: "If the group [al-Qaeda] can't target the US directly it will go after its allies, namely the UK.

"Also it can tap in to the very large Pakistani diaspora inside the [UK] - many of whom travel to Pakistan where al-Qaeda is based - whom it can recruit, train, radicalise and send back to the UK."

Earlier, John McDowell, head of the Metropolitan Police's Counter Terrorism Command, said security staff and police were racing against time when they foiled the plot.

He told the BBC the arrest of the men was "a relatively close thing".

"It's always a balancing act to try to acquire the necessary evidence while at the same time ensuring that public safety is your most important consideration," he said.

"So, we ran this as long as we could run it as a covert, proactive operation and we moved in at the time that we felt that the risks were too great."

The operation also had to be speeded up after alleged US pressure led to the arrest of Rauf in 2006.

Michael Chertoff, former US Homeland Securities Secretary, said Rauf "was the individual involved in essentially supervising the plot, although he was not someone who was going to take part in the actual attack itself".

Former US security chief Michael Chertoff's reaction

'Convict themselves'

The case has reinforced calls for the use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails as evidence in court.

The prosecution case included a series e-mails linking Ali and Sarwar with jihadist figures in Pakistan.

These were not intercepted - they came from the Yahoo server in the US - but the BBC's home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford said they had given ammunition to those calling for intercept evidence to be used in British courts.

At present, phone tap and intercepted email evidence is not admissible, but Sir Ken Macdonald, who was head of the Crown Prosecution Service when the airline plot was uncovered, says the case is proof that a change in the law is needed.

"This is the best evidence you can have - people convicting themselves out of their own mouths," Sir Ken told the BBC.

At the time of his arrest, ringleader Ahmed Ali had identified seven US and Canada-bound flights to be blown up over the Atlantic within a two-and-a-half-hour period.

Airline terror plot: The evidence

Slide 1
    Abdulla Ahmed Ali, Tanvir Hussain and Assad Sarwar were arrested in August 2006. They were each accused of two charges of conspiracy to murder using home-made explosives.

    All three were found guilty in an earlier trial of conspiracy to murder involving liquid bombs - but that jury could not decide whether their plans extended to detonating the devices on planes.

    Now a second jury has decided that such a terror plot did exist.

THIS ARTICLE CONTINUES FOR FIVE PAGES AT THE ABOVE LINK
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 05:24:06 pm
Yeah you guys were watching that real close weren't you... the article was put up and saved to the page in three stages, beginning at eight o'clock this morning... if you would take the time to read it, it is a huge article, takes 20 minutes or so to read... the photos were added as well as the disclaimer at the end of the process, this was about 8:30 to 8:45 AM...

Yep you guys are watching us real close aren't you... the whole thing was supposed to be up and ready to go by 9 AM as it was touted on the radio show all day yesterday... I think we made it don't you...

well if thats your explination, then i will accept it, but it still seems like the disclaimer could have easily been published right from the start.
However you didnt touch apon why it was so massively hyped as if it were second coming of jesus christ himself, only to turn out to be a fake interview with the president.
Its smells like a giant publicity stunt for which deception is used as its key delivery method, those are the tactics of the msm.

Tell me, why not just publish it without any prior hype with a disclaimer right at the top maybe even, as would be any article.
It really wouldnt have mattered then, its not the content at fault here, its the delivery.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 05:26:50 pm
Infowars /Prison Planet Forum is not KNOWN FOR SATIRE! Don't you get it? I almost posted that on forum.

EPIC FAIL OF EPIC PROPORTIONS... AS RON PAUL SAYS 'BLOWBACK'

Prison Planet Forum is not known for satire?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT DISARMING THE PSYCHOPATHS WITH HUMOR AND ALLOW THE MASSES TO SEE THE TRUTH THROUGH IT!

Here is one of my greatest heroes...

"Political Satire became obsolete the day Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize"
- Tom Lehrer (greatest political satirist in the past 50 years)
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From wiki:
Lehrer earned his BA in mathematics (Magna Cum Laude) from Harvard University in 1947, when he was 18. He received his MA the next year, and was inducted into Phi Beta Kappa. He taught classes at MIT, Harvard and Wellesley.  When asked by an Australian newspaper about his silence since the 1960s and his legacy now, he commented that his particular brand of political satire is more difficult in the modern world. "The real issues I don't think most people touch. The Clinton jokes are all about Monica Lewinsky and all that stuff and not about the important things, like the fact that he wouldn't ban landmines... I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirise George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporise them."

Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/QEJ9HrZq7Ro/2.jpg)
2 min - Jul 5, 2007 -    (100 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro

Tom Lehrer - The MLF (Multi Lateral Force) Lullaby
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/wB7PRY1Aqds/default.jpg)
2 min - Oct 1, 2007 - (10 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB7PRY1Aqds

The element song
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1 min - Oct 17, 2006 -    (255 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNfx0FO4hzs

Tom Lehrer - When you are old and gray
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/8NOZH0y7VxE/2.jpg)
2 min - Oct 1, 2007 -    (14 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NOZH0y7VxE

Tom Lehrer - National brotherhood week
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/aIlJ8ZCs4jY/2.jpg)
2 min - Jul 26, 2007 -    (59 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jY

Tom Lehrer - New Math
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/SXx2VVSWDMo/2.jpg)
2 min - Sep 3, 2006 -    (135 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXx2VVSWDMo

Tom Lehrer on Sociology
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3 min - May 27, 2007 -    (22 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX5II-BJ8hI

Tom Lehrer - Pollution
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/JPrAuF2f_oI/2.jpg)
2 min - Jul 26, 2007 -    (55 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPrAuF2f_oI

Tom Lehrer - So long, mom (a song for world war III)
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/pklr0UD9eSo/2.jpg)
2 min - Jul 26, 2007 -    (44 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pklr0UD9eSo

Tom Lehrer - The Vatican rag
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/3f72CTDe4-0/2.jpg)
1 min - Oct 1, 2007 -    (23 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f72CTDe4-0

Tom Lehrer - Masochism tango
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/TytGOeiW0aE/2.jpg)
3 min - Oct 1, 2007 -    (14 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE

Tom Lehrer - Poisoning pigeons in the park
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2 min - Oct 1, 2007 -    (18 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY

Tom Lehrer - Send the marines
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/HHhZF66C1Dc/2.jpg)
1 min - Oct 1, 2007 -    (8 ratings)   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHhZF66C1Dc

Tom Lehrer - Who's next
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2 min - Oct 1, 2007 -    (14 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FgMTAj4f_o

We will all go together when we go
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3 min - Oct 16, 2006 -    (172 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU2mwrxRQyA
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Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 05:26:59 pm
If the disclaimer would've been placed at the top, most people would never read the article... the honesty is in the disclaimer itself, even at the bottom...

As soon as the mainstream media starts disclaiming their lies and deception anywhere within the body of an article, then I'm sure you can talk Kurt and Paul into placing a disclaimer at the top of the "once in a blue moon" hypothetical editorial... I think this is the very first one they've done... judging from the response, we need to do more just like it.

Going to have to work a lot harder at dissuading opinion, here Road-Runner... the fact that I only see you and a couple of the other guys here when something needs to be debunked... that betrays you my friend.

JTCoyoté

"A patriot must always be ready to defend
his country against his government."
~Edward Abbey


Can you stop trying to make this an individual attack against me, this thread is about summarizing the concerns of like-minded individuals which do not agree with the method in which this article was presented. So let me continue to expand on what I believe to be our other concerns about this method.

The article can be summed up as Bait for the mainstream media, and it has a two step strategy:

1) It must convince the mainstream media to cover it, by becoming an unavoidable internet sensation on either negative or positive terms

2) Once it is covered, a 9/11 truther must defend its position as being a legitimate piece of Journalism and they must also convince the American audience to take deeper look at the questions that the 9/11 Truthers want answered in the article.


Now lets say the Mainstream media decides to cover it, which means they fell for the bait and step (1) has been successful. Then their strategy will most likely be:

"Present the article as lie propagated by the delusional 9/11 Truthers (Now because of the method Alex Jones chose to present it, they have credible right to do so). Focus on a few straw men arguments that 9/11 Truthers have used in the past which were not presented in the article. Do not have anyone who represents the movement come on the show and defend the articles position or purpose"

In this likely scenario, the essential Step 2 never occurs.

So without the representation needed in order to use this article to our advantage, we are unable to gather any supporters through the Television by method of 9/11 Truther TV interview.

Which means the entirety of our audience who may become supporters of 9/11 Truth, will not have been converted by the mainstream media's coverage. They will have to read the original article online, and of course, the online article causes the negative psychological reaction towards the truther movement, which I described in my first/initial post in this thread. So it is a lose-lose situation for 9/11 Truth.

This is my perspective, I believe others share the same concern.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 05:27:51 pm
Yeah you guys were watching that real close weren't you... the article was put up and saved to the page in three stages, beginning at eight o'clock this morning... if you would take the time to read it, it is a huge article, takes 20 minutes or so to read... the photos were added as well as the disclaimer at the end of the process, this was about 8:30 to 8:45 AM...

Yep you guys are watching us real close aren't you... the whole thing was supposed to be up and ready to go by 9 AM as it was touted on the radio show all day yesterday... I think we made it don't you...

fascists ::)

JTCoyoté

"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not
as sacred as the law of God, and that there is not a force of law
and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.  
~John Adams



Hold on JT that is little unfair,this is the first anybody is hearing about being put up in 3 parts and Alex even played like the disclaimer was posted with the article,if people were watching real close its because thats what they have learned to do,so nobody can be blamed for feeling angry and a little like they were duped.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 05:32:50 pm
Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)

Against the assault of laughter, nothing can stand.
- "The Chronicle of Young Satan," Mysterious Stranger Manuscripts

Humor must not professedly teach, and it must not professedly preach, but it must do both if it would live forever.
- Mark Twain in Eruption

The humorous story is told gravely; the teller does his best to conceal the fact that he even dimly suspects that there is anything funny about it.
- "How to Tell a Story"

Humor is mankind's greatest blessing.
- Mark Twain, a Biography

Laughter without a tinge of philosophy is but a sneeze of humor. Genuine humor is replete with wisdom.
- quoted in Mark Twain and I, Opie Read

Humor is the great thing, the saving thing after all. The minute it crops up, all our hardnesses yield, all our irritations, and resentments flit away, and a sunny spirit takes their place.
- "What Paul Bourget Thinks of Us"

Humor is the good natured side of a truth.
- quoted in Mark Twain and I, Opie Read

Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 05:32:54 pm
well if thats your explination, then i will accept it, but it still seems like the disclaimer could have easily been published right from the start.
However you did touch apon why it was so massively hyped as if it were second coming of jesus christ himself, only to turn out to be a fake interview with the president.
Its smells like a giant publicity stunt for which deception is used as its key delivery method, those are the tactics of the msm.

The second coming...? that's your spin on it... It wasn't hyped any higher than some of the other big-name guests Alex has had on in the past... the only difference now is the audience is bigger.

Besides it's not just for what began today... tomorrow the author of the article, Charlie Sheen will be on the air live with Alex... the whole week will be filled with surprises... so it's not over yet... you're going to have to earn my tax dollar over time this week big boy... (chuckle)...

--Oldyoti

"Assertions of "conspiracy theory" touted by "conspiracy debunking hounds"...
are designed to do nothing more than shout down, side track, or squelch honest
debate. Within topics of controversy, there may be "shenanigans", which only
honest and unfettered discussion can determine."
 ~Anonymous


Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 05:36:04 pm
That would be your take on this JT.  Not mine or many others.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 05:37:28 pm

Hold on JT that is little unfair,this is the first anybody is hearing about being put up in 3 parts and Alex even played like the disclaimer was posted with the article,if people were watching real close its because thats what they have learned to do,so nobody can be blamed for feeling angry and a little like they were duped.

Read my post... for Christ's sake! It WAS posted with the article... but it took almost 45 minutes to post the MONSTER article...

Jesus Christ! either stop smoking the ganja... or stop drinking the fluoride... one of the two.

--Oldyoti

“In the beginning of a change the Patriot is a scarce man,
and brave, and hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds,
the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
~Mark Twain
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 05:37:55 pm
The second coming...? that's your spin on it... It wasn't hyped any higher than some of the other big-name guests Alex has had on in the past... the only difference now is the audience is bigger.

Besides it's not just for what began today... tomorrow the author of the article, Charlie Sheen will be on the air live with Alex... the whole week will be filled with surprises... so it's not over yet... you're going to have to earn my tax dollar over time this week big boy... (chuckle)...


Erm, yes it was very very hyped, alex even claimed he might go missing and certain people knew to 'put it out' (you know the HUGE news he was talking about?) if they didnt hear from him, pretty much claiming he might even be a target because of what he was getting ready to announce, ive never ever heard him hype like that before, theres been hype but not like that. Huge news he said, blah blah, for it to be all about some fake interview..
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: unitedstrokesofamerica on September 08, 2009, 05:39:37 pm
I see good points on both sides of this. I feel they should have put something at the top from the start saying that, this is the interview we wish that would happen. I think this is very dangerous to post something fake no matter how true the content is when the MSM is saying sites like infowars have no credibility.  On the other side you could say, Fortune favors the bold.   I will stick with Alex no matter the stunt.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruRevolution on September 08, 2009, 05:41:21 pm
Wow, this is pathetic to mock a fake interview with Obama and then turn around and call it the real thing. Pathetic Alex, PATHETIC.  Instead of some little claim at the bottom telling us its fake, make a huge one at the top.  Or call it "What if? 20 Minutes with President Obama". 

I thought this was Infowars, not FOX.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 05:42:03 pm
JTCoyote, please reply with your perspective on this viewpoint:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=133286.msg804114#msg804114
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 05:42:17 pm
That would be your take on this JT.  Not mine or many others.

With a post like this, no one knows what your take is...

My take is what happened... You see, you can't post half of the Encyclopedia Britannica into WordPress all in one post, it must go up in stages... not my take... my knowledge...  knowledge you don't have.

--Oldyoti

"First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win."
~Gandhi
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: tritonman on September 08, 2009, 05:42:33 pm
Read my post... for Christ's sake! It was posted with the article... but it took almost 45 minutes to post the MONSTER article...

Jesus Christ! either stop smoking the ganja... or stop drinking the fluoride... one of the two.

--Oldyoti

“In the beginning of a change the Patriot is a scarce man,
and brave, and hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds,
the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
~Mark Twain

So do you now see the wisdom of posting a disclaimer at the top so as not to discredit the work from the outset?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 05:45:03 pm
Wow, this is pathetic to mock a fake interview with Obama and then turn around and call it the real thing. Pathetic Alex, PATHETIC.  Instead of some little claim at the bottom telling us its fake, make a huge one at the top.  Or call it "What if? 20 Minutes with President Obama". 

I thought this was Infowars, not FOX.

You do realize there is a powerful weapon within the constitution's first amendment that acknowledges, enforces, protects freedom to write satire? Ya think maybe the founding fathers had a reason for protecting this inalienable right?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 05:46:26 pm
As far as mainstream is concerned, why do you think the NWO had to put a G Beck on one of their propaganda outlets to fakely champion the same causes that WE THE NEW MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE AND ACTIVISTS have been doing, and growing exponentially doing so? We have so many gauges to know the pulse of the nation, and the polls are just one. Gun sales are another. Activism is another. Talking about activism, we have the MOST activists than the NWO's factions combined. HANDS DOWN. I'm not talking about the sheeple or non-activists who will bother to show up for a concert or a political rally for fun. If you know anything about the sociology of politics, the activists are usually the minority in the overall population, the by-standers are the majority. Well, we have the majority of the minority to our side. DEAL WITH IT.

Second, I said "most are liars." If that struck a chord with you, i'm sorry. Do some introinspection and come back later. Anyway, I started my lecture addressing two types of truthers: a) STUPID, who cannot understand what move is credible at one time and will not appear so at other times. b) ANGRY, I understand the feeling of many who used to be respected by friends for being the source of news as if from the heavens. I am in the same boat. BUT, friends, we are at crucial points in the infowar. There isn't much time left, this one move could mean a lot, IF WE DECIDE TO GET OVER THE DISAPPOINTMENT and use it to MAXIMIZE its effect. I wouldn't back such moves were it done at a time when we had to prove our credibility. What this move is intended for is not that, it's to use our acquired credibility, i.e. the MEDIA POWER OF AJ in 2009, to force the other side to cover our AGENDA. WE ARE THE AGENDA SETTERS NOW. They used to. Not ANYMORE. "ARRRRRGGGGG".


You made a sweeping statement about the peoples integrity that complained,(sorry most of them),and you know,so you know there are people spreading BS on the forum but don't do anything about it,you think letting them know you know will scare them,or was it just a generalization you didn't think you would get called out on ???

"WE ARE THE AGENDA SETTERS NOW" excellent, so top of the Agenda is to expose 9/11...oh wait it has been top of the agenda for the last 8 years,but we are the agenda setters,right ??? ,so this by time next year we will be looking back and thinking how great it is that 9/11 was finally exposed,new investigation and all the people involved will be in and on their way to prison ??? 

If we are the agenda setters,we wouldn't need fake interviews to get that across,so no we are not the mainstream and although we are in total agreement on how we want things to run,unlike yourself I know the reality, that we are not there yet. 
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 05:47:20 pm
JTCoyote, please reply with your perspective on this viewpoint:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=133286.msg804114#msg804114

So sorry you feel as though I have singled you out... I haven't... ask your bunk buddies here...

This isn't about you, this is about the thread you started.

JTCoyoté

"God grants liberty only to those who love it,
and are always ready to guard and defend it."
~Daniel Webster
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 05:49:34 pm
So do you now see the wisdom of posting a disclaimer at the top so as not to discredit the work from the outset?

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 05:49:39 pm

You made a sweeping statement about the peoples integrity that complained,(sorry most of them),and you know,so you know there are people spreading BS on the forum but don't do anything about it,you think letting them know you know will scare them,or was it just a generalization you didn't think you would get called out on ???

"WE ARE THE AGENDA SETTERS NOW" excellent, so top of the Agenda is to expose 9/11...oh wait it has been top of the agenda for the last 8 years,but we are the agenda setters,right ??? ,so this by time next year we will be looking back and thinking how great it is that 9/11 was finally exposed,new investigation and all the people involved will be in and on their way to prison ??? 

If we are the agenda setters,we wouldn't need fake interviews to get that across,so no we are not the mainstream and although we are in total agreement on how we want things to run,unlike yourself I know the reality, that we are not there yet. 

dude, no offense and much love (Sub-X kicks ass) but the essence of his posts IMO are pretty cool.
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 05:54:32 pm
So sorry you feel as though I have singled you out... I haven't... ask your bunk buddies here...

This isn't about you, this is about the thread you started.

JTCoyoté

"God grants liberty only to those who love it,
and are always ready to guard and defend it."
~Daniel Webster


RoadRunner started a thread?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tattoo8118 on September 08, 2009, 05:55:28 pm
Whats the deal with the closed comments section on Infowars.com??
Title: Barack Obama, Charlie Sheen, Van Jones, and the 9/11 Truther Movement
Post by: Eckhart Tolle on September 08, 2009, 05:55:31 pm
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Barack Obama, Charlie Sheen, Van Jones, and the 9/11 Truther Movement

September 08, 2009 by
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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2153283/barack_obama_charlie_sheen_van_jones.html

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According to the Prison Planet blog, actor Charlie Sheen is demanding a meeting with President Barack Obama in order to demand that an investigation be opened over whether the Bush administration was directly involved in the 9/11 attacks.

This bit of news might be just another example of an overly egotistical actor thinking that his role as an aging lothario on Two and a Half Men buys him face time with the President of the United States. However, with the


Barack Obama, Charlie Sheen, Van Jones, and the 9/11 Truther Movement
 eighth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks coming up and the revelation that the now former White House Green Jobs Czar Van Jones was himself a 9/11 truther focuses attention on the new paranoid style of American politics. But this time the paranoids are not right wingers seeing commies under the bed. The paranoids are left wingers seeing Bush administration operatives under the rubble of 9/11.

Like many conspiracy theories, the 9/11 Truther movement stems from a combination of ignorance of science and history and a political agenda that has sent a group of people around the bend. People believe that the Bush administration engineered 9/11 because, as the slogan made famous by the TV show The X Files stated, they want to believe. They want to believe that George W. Bush was both nefarious enough and clever enough to slay three thousand human beings, make it look like a group of enraged Muslims did it, then use the event as an excuse to create an empire in the Middle East in order to grab all of the oil. Or it is something like that.

A now famous article in Popular Mechanics thoroughly debunked the 9/11 Truther conspiracy theory. However a casual attention to Occam's Razor should be sufficient to laugh off the idea that the US Government, which has done most things incompetently, pulled off the mother of all false flag operations.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 05:55:44 pm

You made a sweeping statement about the peoples integrity that complained,(sorry most of them),and you know,so you know there are people spreading BS on the forum but don't do anything about it,you think letting them know you know will scare them,or was it just a generalization you didn't think you would get called out on ???

"WE ARE THE AGENDA SETTERS NOW" excellent, so top of the Agenda is to expose 9/11...oh wait it has been top of the agenda for the last 8 years,but we are the agenda setters,right ??? ,so this by time next year we will be looking back and thinking how great it is that 9/11 was finally exposed,new investigation and all the people involved will be in and on their way to prison ??? 

If we are the agenda setters,we wouldn't need fake interviews to get that across,so no we are not the mainstream and although we are in total agreement on how we want things to run,unlike yourself I know the reality, that we are not there yet. 

I think some people are forgetting just how freakin powerful the msm are, yes the internet has grown at an immense rate, but Televison im afriad is still the no1 stop for alot of people, you gotta face that, as long as you tell the truth, theres less they can use and you get stupid documentarys on national geographic.
Just as the tactics of truth are making headway agaisnt what is an incredibly powerfull brainwashing tool.

Whats going to happen if the MSM does pick this up, i dread to think.

This is the first one ive seen so far.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2153283/barack_obama_charlie_sheen_van_jones.html?cat=49

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According to the Prison Planet blog, actor Charlie Sheen is demanding a meeting with President Barack Obama in order to demand that an investigation be opened over whether the Bush administration was directly involved in the 9/11 attacks.

This bit of news might be just another example of an overly egotistical actor thinking that his role as an aging lothario on Two and a Half Men buys him face time with the President of the United States.

..

However, with the eighth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks coming up and the revelation that the now former White House Green Jobs Czar Van Jones was himself a 9/11 truther focuses attention on the new paranoid style of American politics. But this time the paranoids are not right wingers seeing commies under the bed. The paranoids are left wingers seeing Bush administration operatives under the rubble of 9/11.

Like many conspiracy theories, the 9/11 Truther movement stems from a combination of ignorance of science and history and a political agenda that has sent a group of people around the bend. People believe that the Bush administration engineered 9/11 because, as the slogan made famous by the TV show The X Files stated, they want to believe. They want to believe that George W. Bush was both nefarious enough and clever enough to slay three thousand human beings, make it look like a group of enraged Muslims did it, then use the event as an excuse to create an empire in the Middle East in order to grab all of the oil. Or it is something like that.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 05:56:19 pm
Wow, this is pathetic to mock a fake interview with Obama and then turn around and call it the real thing. Pathetic Alex, PATHETIC.  Instead of some little claim at the bottom telling us its fake, make a huge one at the top.  Or call it "What if? 20 Minutes with President Obama". 

I thought this was Infowars, not FOX.


You do know what the concept of satire is, right?

Encyclopedia > Satire
http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Satire

Satire is strictly a literary genre, although it is found in the graphic and performing arts as well as the printed word. In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with an intent to bring about improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humor in itself so much as an attack on something of which the author strongly disapproves, using the weapon of wit.

A very common, almost defining feature of satire is its strong vein of irony or sarcasm, but parody, burlesque, exaggeration, juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing. The essential point, however, is that "in satire, irony is militant"[2]. This "militant irony" (or sarcasm) often professes to approve the very things the satirist actually wishes to attack.

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Satire has been used for 1,000's of years to make statements as to what the author has on his or her mind. I wonder if the ancient Greeks and Romans did as much belly-aching about the satire of their time? ::)
Title: Re: Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op doesnt work
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 05:59:56 pm
So sorry you feel as though I have singled you out... I haven't... ask your bunk buddies here...

This isn't about you, this is about the thread you started.

JTCoyoté

"God grants liberty only to those who love it,
and are always ready to guard and defend it."
~Daniel Webster


JT, I think we both know that my feelings where not the main point I wanted you to address. This tactic of cheap tricks to avoid legitimate questions is getting really old. Perhaps you wish to call me a government co-intel agent again, but I would prefer that you just give your perspective on the main points addressed in the same hyperlink:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=133242.msg804114#msg804114
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 06:01:26 pm
A trickle will turn into a stream...

Charlie Sheen/Barack Obama fanfic, as written by… Charlie Sheen
http://www.inquisitr.com/36472/charlie-sheenbarack-obama-fanfic-as-written-by-charlie-sheen/

While nearly one out of three Americans question the 9/11 Commission Report and nearly one out of five think that the Bush Administration had a hand in the attacks, Charlie Sheen has taken questioning the official account of September 11th to a whole new level.

He’s written a fanfic about it. He doesn’t call it fanfic, but any of us who used to be addicted to Harry Potter fanfic know what fanfic is- we recognize it when we see it. Sheen has written a long- boy howdy, is it long- fantasy interview between himself and Barack Obama (abbreviated as PBO in the “interview”) in which much like an action movie star, he takes on America’s most charismatic man with the hard hitting questions. And being conceived and carried out totally in Sheen’s head, he pulls no punches.

As a native New Yorker who thinks the 9/11 Commission Report was an insult and that the previous administration is at least guilty of criminal negligence, I don’t begrudge Sheen his fervor on the subject. (And if I do, for a minute, all I have to bring up in my memory is landing in Newark on September 15th and watching the smoke billowing over half of my beloved home city in stunned silence.) However, Sheen’s mock interview is downright adorable in parts. I particularly liked the ending, although I think he’s being a bit of a Charlie-Sue:

(The Senior aide appears again beside the President whispering in his ear. He then quickly moves off).

PBO – Well Charlie I can’t say this hasn’t been interesting. As I said earlier you’ve showed up today focused and organized.  Regardless how I feel about the material you’ve presented, I must commend your dedication and zeal. However, our time here is up.

(the President rises from his chair , I do the same).

CS – Mr. President! One more second!

(The President starts towards the door – I follow him quickly step for step).

CS – Mr. President, I implore you based on the evidence you now possess, to use your Executive Power. Prove to us all Sir, that you do, in fact, care. Create a truly comprehensive and open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath. The families deserve the truth, the American people and the rest of the free world deserve the truth. Mr. President -


(He pauses. We shake hands).

CS – Make sure your (sic) on the right side of history.

(The President breaks the handshake).

PBO – I am on the right side of history. Thank you Charlie, my staff and I will be in touch.

(I watch as he strides gracefully out of the room, the truth I provided him held firmly by his side; in the hand of providence.)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 06:01:44 pm
So do you now see the wisdom of posting a disclaimer at the top so as not to discredit the work from the outset?

The wisdom is in posting of our detailed disclaimer... you might want to badger some of the purveyors of the reading material you enjoy... about posting a disclaimer at all on their lying BS...

The wisdom of this piece comes in the attention garnered... a page from the 1939 Orson Welles Mercury Theatre presentation of HG Wells' War of the Worlds... a disclaimer was always there, but only those who were really listening to the show heard it...

Only those people who took the time to read the article knew the disclaimer was there, in the spirit of the text, and then printed in detail all the way at the bottom...

--Oldyoti

"The government turns every contingency
into an excuse for enhancing power in itself."
~John Adams
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Shorty123 on September 08, 2009, 06:06:31 pm
Exactly, you cant 'out lie' the machine, its insane, the only thing we can use is the truth, i accpet now that it was a tactic, but a very very poor one imo.
To be honest, it would have been fine if he posted it with the disclaimer from the start and did not spend days hyping it like it was the second coming of christ

Why the hell wasnt it just posted as it was, with a disclaimer, no hype, nothing just a normal day and a letter.

endof exactly.

I thought the goal was to reach a level of "credibility." That way a solid foundation could be built upon that credibility. If one MSM org picks this up, I would be throughly surprised and will come back to eat some crow!

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 06:06:46 pm
A trickle will turn into a stream...

Charlie Sheen/Barack Obama fanfic, as written by… Charlie Sheen
http://www.inquisitr.com/36472/charlie-sheenbarack-obama-fanfic-as-written-by-charlie-sheen/

While nearly one out of three Americans question the 9/11 Commission Report and nearly one out of five think that the Bush Administration had a hand in the attacks, Charlie Sheen has taken questioning the official account of September 11th to a whole new level.
.................

edited quote

Well thats good news, hopefully it continues to be covered in such a mature fashion.

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He’s written a fanfic about it.

Notice how they give it a good disclaimer, and no one is disappointed that the article is fictional. Where as Alex lied and gained no credibility by doing so.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Scootle on September 08, 2009, 06:07:02 pm
CS – Make sure your (sic) on the right side of history.

Lol!!! They are actually stooping low enough to point out a minor spelling/grammer error.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 06:07:53 pm
It's now mentioned on the Charlie Sheen fan site. How about those fans that were with him through his coming out period (who will be reminded), or the brand spanking new fans who've never heard of a thing called the 9/11 Truth Movement?

http://www.charliesheen.net/#news
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:09:34 pm
endof exactly.

I thought the goal was to reach a level of "credibility." That way a solid foundation could be built upon that credibility. If one MSM org picks this up, I would be throughly surprised and will come back to eat some crow!



IF HG WELLS HAD RUN A DISCLAIMER BEFORE THE BROADCAST OF WAR OF THE WORLDS
you never
never
never
would have heard about it.

The shock grabs you, then you pay attention to the story.
So,
you callin hg wells a poser and an idiot?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Magnumpi on September 08, 2009, 06:10:30 pm
Hopefully, Alex now knows why he shouldn't hype something, and just do it. Because most people are childish hacks. I mean really? If everyone else spent even 1/10th the energy on this issue in other forums/site/real-life, it's a huge success already. And think of all the attention Mr. Sheen will get for his upcoming cameo in Wallstreet 2!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 06:10:50 pm
Read my post... for Christ's sake! It WAS posted with the article... but it took almost 45 minutes to post the MONSTER article...

Jesus Christ! either stop smoking the ganja... or stop drinking the fluoride... one of the two.

--Oldyoti

“In the beginning of a change the Patriot is a scarce man,
and brave, and hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds,
the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
~Mark Twain



Sorry if my intelligence don't meet your high standards JT but I am in awe and grateful to be in the presents of such greatness,honored even and to have you try and insult me too,WoW I am so lucky.(See I can be a smartarse too)

So granted the article is huge and I can well believe it took that long to post it,but what you don't seem to realize is not everybody has that kinda of knowledge about websites etc. so what the ganja smoking,fluoride drinkers seen was an article published as reality and then the disclaimer was posted.

You know the reason why it took so long for the disclaimer,all anybody else seen was a story being sold as reality when in fact it was fiction now I mean if you can't at least see this then maybe you should come down off your intellectual pedestal and slum it with the rest of the dumbasses for awhile.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:12:36 pm
he War of the Worlds was an episode of the American radio drama anthology series Mercury Theatre on the Air. It was performed as a Halloween episode of the series on October 30, 1938 and aired over the Columbia Broadcasting System radio network. Directed and narrated by Orson Welles, the episode was an adaptation of H. G. Wells' novel The War of the Worlds.

The first two thirds of the 60-minute broadcast was presented as a series of simulated news bulletins, which suggested to many listeners that an actual Martian invasion was in progress. Compounding the issue was the fact that the Mercury Theatre on the Air was a 'sustaining show' (i.e., it ran without commercial breaks), thus adding to the dramatic effect. Although there were sensationalist accounts in the press about a supposed panic in response to the broadcast, the precise extent of listener response has been debated. In the days following the adaptation, however, there was widespread outrage. The program's news-bulletin format was decried as cruelly deceptive by some newspapers and public figures, leading to an outcry against the perpetrators of the broadcast, but the episode launched Orson Welles to fame.

Welles' adaptation was one of the Radio Project's first studies.

wikipedia
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 06:12:44 pm
IF HG WELLS HAD RUN A DISCLAIMER BEFORE THE BROADCAST OF WAR OF THE WORLDS
you never
never
never
would have heard about it.

The shock grabs you, then you pay attention to the story.
So,
you callin hg wells a poser and an idiot?

War of the worlds was fictitious trying to convince people its real.

9/11 Truth is supposedly true, but trying to convince people its not fictitious.

Your argument is flawed.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chrisfromchi on September 08, 2009, 06:16:18 pm
Great post agree 100%
And im not sure whats going on either.

I think i know whats going on but i'm waiting another hour so the detractors and those fans with hurt feelings vent a bit longer.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:16:36 pm
War of the worlds was fictitious trying to convince people its real.

9/11 Truth is supposedly true, but trying to convince people its not fictitious.

Your argument is flawed.

The point is to capture the attention of people by leading with a psy op
It's an age old strategem
the point is: no one's listening anymore
Time for big guns
this took balls
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 06:18:00 pm
I think i know whats going on but i'm waiting another hour so the detractors and those fans with hurt feelings vent a bit longer.
Thanks Chris, thoughtful.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:19:47 pm
you know, I didn't know whether it was brilliant or not ( I didn't really care, I was just happy 911 was possibly going to get revisited.)
But the dramatic, polar reactions on this forum have in and of themselves convinced me it was brilliant.
WHAT could AJ have done to revitalize this to this degree? Answer me that?
Even here...

Controversy is necessary to progress
always
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 06:20:38 pm
The point is to capture the attention of people by leading with a psy op
It's an age old strategem
the point is: no one's listening anymore
Time for big guns
this took balls

Agreed. PR stunts are always risky but if the primary objective is to just get your message on the table, you use whatever you have in your toolkit and try to turn negative blowback into opportunity.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 06:20:42 pm
I think i know whats going on but i'm waiting another hour so the detractors and those fans with hurt feelings vent a bit longer.

No please do say, cos right now it seems more like major own goal.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 06:21:49 pm
Plane crash for me.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:22:37 pm
Agreed. PR stunts are always risky but if the primary objective is to just get your message on the table, you use whatever you have in your toolkit and try to turn negative blowback into opportunity.

exactamundo

this investigation has been illegally stalled, taken over, co-opted, postponed, buried and deep sixed.

What will it take?

I'm glad SOMEBODY had a fresh idea and was willing to run with it.

you.
 just.
 never.
  know.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 06:24:17 pm
IF HG WELLS HAD RUN A DISCLAIMER BEFORE THE BROADCAST OF WAR OF THE WORLDS
you never
never
never
would have heard about it.

The shock grabs you, then you pay attention to the story.
So,
you callin hg wells a poser and an idiot?

Are you seriously seriously trying to compare what happened today with HG Wells?

 ??? ???

Wells wrote the book in 1898. The Radio show was aired some 40 years later. Perhaps you need to research CBS's role in the said broadcast and enquire to what roles Edward Bernays and the Rockefeller Foundation played too.

Are you still wanting to compare the two.

Anyway, I really do hope that no-one ran with this straight away without the disclaimer. Even anyone pushed this in front of others eyes without knowing it was make believe will now have lost all credibility with the people they are trying to educate.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 06:26:42 pm
Are you seriously seriously trying to compare what happened today with HG Wells?

 ??? ???

Wells wrote the book in 1898. The Radio show was aired some 40 years later. Perhaps you need to research CBS's role in the said broadcast and enquire to what roles Edward Bernays and the Rockefeller Foundation played too.

Are you still wanting to compare the two.

Anyway, I really do hope that no-one ran with this straight away without the disclaimer. Even anyone pushed this in front of others eyes without knowing it was make believe will now have lost all credibility with the people they are trying to educate.



i think he means orsen(sp?) wells

edit: its orson welles, was close.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 08, 2009, 06:27:05 pm
All I gotta say is, Alex Jones new movie better be good lol

Hes got some making up to do
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:28:16 pm
Whats the deal with the closed comments section on Infowars.com??


It is a conspiracy theory
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:28:28 pm
Are you seriously seriously trying to compare what happened today with HG Wells?

 ??? ???

Wells wrote the book in 1898. The Radio show was aired some 40 years later. Perhaps you need to research CBS's role in the said broadcast and enquire to what roles Edward Bernays and the Rockefeller Foundation played too.

Are you still wanting to compare the two.

Anyway, I really do hope that no-one ran with this straight away without the disclaimer. Even anyone pushed this in front of others eyes without knowing it was make believe will now have lost all credibility with the people they are trying to educate.



absolutely I'm willing to compare the two.
What's the problem?
You want to stand around and stay polite over this?
go ahead, but nothin's worked.
Getting your attention with a news grabbing headliner and a celebrity is just fine by me, especially considering what's at stake.

is it like War of the Worlds? You bet.
People experienced this as truth, and it lodged in their mind.
You can't take the analogy much past there, but you don't need to, just that's effective as hell.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 06:29:29 pm
i think he means orsen(sp?) wells

H.G. Wells wrote the book, Orson Welles produced the radio broadcast.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sh4mw0w on September 08, 2009, 06:29:45 pm
Also, all you people here defending Jones' tactic as a brilliant 'psyop' -- please get a clue.   Think this one through for once.

Okay -- best case scenario:  You get some tabloid press coverage from examiner and a few other sites.   The more mainstream sites will make fun.

At what cost??

Alex has damaged his credibility -- perhaps terminally.    Why should people trust his content if he 'forgets' to put up disclaimers,  or his mods are offering lame excuses about how it took three uploads?  Sorry -- these are weak excuses.   Take some personal responsibility for what happened.  Tell the damned truth.  Apologize for not getting the disclaimer up.

The ends DO NOT justify the means. Those claiming that Alex should be allowed to deceive his audience -- in order to achieve some half-baked scheme of getting tabloid press coverage -- this is unacceptable!  Deception should never be acceptable to those interested in the truth -- ESPECIALLY deception of your own audience.  This is just morally reprehensible. The truth stands on its own.  It does not need a 'coating' of lies.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 06:30:06 pm
H.G. Wells wrote the book, Orsen Welles produced the radio broadcast.

yah, and he was talking about 'hg wells doin the broadcast' so..
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:31:43 pm
Are you seriously seriously trying to compare what happened today with HG Wells?

 ??? ???

Wells wrote the book in 1898. The Radio show was aired some 40 years later. Perhaps you need to research CBS's role in the said broadcast and enquire to what roles Edward Bernays and the Rockefeller Foundation played too.

Are you still wanting to compare the two.

Anyway, I really do hope that no-one ran with this straight away without the disclaimer. Even anyone pushed this in front of others eyes without knowing it was make believe will now have lost all credibility with the people they are trying to educate.




oh heaven forbid that satire ever run without a disclaimer? The world might cease to rotate on its axis if such an abominable act ever occurred...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A Modest Proposal

For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland
From Being Aburden to Their Parents or Country, and
For Making Them Beneficial to The Public

(http://www.art-bin.com/bilder/oswift.gif)

By Jonathan Swift (1729)
 (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html)


It is a melancholy object to those who walk through this great town or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads, and cabin doors, crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers, instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants: who as they grow up either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native country to fight for the Pretender in Spain, or sell themselves to the Barbadoes.

I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of children in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the kingdom a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these children sound, useful members of the commonwealth, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation.

But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed beggars; it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them as those who demand our charity in the streets.

As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of other projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in the computation. It is true, a child just dropped from its dam may be supported by her milk for a solar year, with little other nourishment; at most not above the value of 2s., which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner as instead of being a charge upon their parents or the parish, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall on the contrary contribute to the feeding, and partly to the clothing, of many thousands.

There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions, and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us! sacrificing the poor innocent babes I doubt more to avoid the expense than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast.

The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couples who are able to maintain their own children, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom; but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders. I again subtract fifty thousand for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remains one hundred and twenty thousand children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, how this number shall be reared and provided for, which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture; we neither build houses (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing, till they arrive at six years old, except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier, during which time, they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers, as I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Cavan, who protested to me that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the kingdom so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art.

I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old is no salable commodity; and even when they come to this age they will not yield above three pounds, or three pounds and half-a-crown at most on the exchange; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or kingdom, the charge of nutriment and rags having been at least four times that value.

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.

I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.

I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.

I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, increaseth to 28 pounds.

I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children.

Infant's flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent French physician, that fish being a prolific diet, there are more children born in Roman Catholic countries about nine months after Lent than at any other season; therefore, reckoning a year after Lent, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of popish infants is at least three to one in this kingdom: and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of papists among us.

I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have eight shillings net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child.

Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flay the carcass; the skin of which artificially dressed will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen.

As to our city of Dublin, shambles may be appointed for this purpose in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs.

A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service; and these to be disposed of by their parents, if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our schoolboys by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable; and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission be a loss to the public, because they soon would become breeders themselves; and besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice (although indeed very unjustly), as a little bordering upon cruelty; which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, however so well intended.

But in order to justify my friend, he confessed that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Psalmanazar, a native of the island Formosa, who came from thence to London above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality as a prime dainty; and that in his time the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the emperor, was sold to his imperial majesty's prime minister of state, and other great mandarins of the court, in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at playhouse and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for, the kingdom would not be the worse.

Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed, and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken to ease the nation of so grievous an encumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known that they are every day dying and rotting by cold and famine, and filth and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young laborers, they are now in as hopeful a condition; they cannot get work, and consequently pine away for want of nourishment, to a degree that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labor, they have not strength to perform it; and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come.

I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance.

For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of papists, with whom we are yearly overrun, being the principal breeders of the nation as well as our most dangerous enemies; and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the kingdom to the Pretender, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good protestants, who have chosen rather to leave their country than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an episcopal curate.

Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to distress and help to pay their landlord's rent, their corn and cattle being already seized, and money a thing unknown.

Thirdly, Whereas the maintenance of an hundred thousand children, from two years old and upward, cannot be computed at less than ten shillings a-piece per annum, the nation's stock will be thereby increased fifty thousand pounds per annum, beside the profit of a new dish introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the kingdom who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among ourselves, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture.

Fourthly, The constant breeders, beside the gain of eight shillings sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year.

Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to taverns; where the vintners will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection, and consequently have their houses frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating: and a skilful cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please.

Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards or enforced by laws and penalties. It would increase the care and tenderness of mothers toward their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the public, to their annual profit instead of expense. We should see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives during the time of their pregnancy as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, their sows when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage.

Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barreled beef, the propagation of swine's flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well-grown, fat, yearling child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a lord mayor's feast or any other public entertainment. But this and many others I omit, being studious of brevity.

Supposing that one thousand families in this city, would be constant customers for infants flesh, besides others who might have it at merry meetings, particularly at weddings and christenings, I compute that Dublin would take off annually about twenty thousand carcasses; and the rest of the kingdom (where probably they will be sold somewhat cheaper) the remaining eighty thousand.

I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the kingdom. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Kingdom of Ireland, and for no other that ever was, is, or, I think, ever can be upon Earth. Therefore let no man talk to me of other expedients: Of taxing our absentees at five shillings a pound: Of using neither cloaths, nor houshold furniture, except what is of our own growth and manufacture: Of utterly rejecting the materials and instruments that promote foreign luxury: Of curing the expensiveness of pride, vanity, idleness, and gaming in our women: Of introducing a vein of parsimony, prudence and temperance: Of learning to love our country, wherein we differ even from Laplanders, and the inhabitants of Topinamboo: Of quitting our animosities and factions, nor acting any longer like the Jews, who were murdering one another at the very moment their city was taken: Of being a little cautious not to sell our country and consciences for nothing: Of teaching landlords to have at least one degree of mercy towards their tenants. Lastly, of putting a spirit of honesty, industry, and skill into our shop-keepers, who, if a resolution could now be taken to buy only our native goods, would immediately unite to cheat and exact upon us in the price, the measure, and the goodness, nor could ever yet be brought to make one fair proposal of just dealing, though often and earnestly invited to it.

Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like expedients, 'till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice.

But, as to my self, having been wearied out for many years with offering vain, idle, visionary thoughts, and at length utterly despairing of success, I fortunately fell upon this proposal, which, as it is wholly new, so it hath something solid and real, of no expence and little trouble, full in our own power, and whereby we can incur no danger in disobliging England. For this kind of commodity will not bear exportation, and flesh being of too tender a consistence, to admit a long continuance in salt, although perhaps I could name a country, which would be glad to eat up our whole nation without it.

After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find food and raiment for an hundred thousand useless mouths and backs. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in human figure throughout this kingdom, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions of pounds sterling, adding those who are beggars by profession to the bulk of farmers, cottagers, and laborers, with their wives and children who are beggars in effect: I desire those politicians who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the parents of these mortals, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, at a year old in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of landlords, the impossibility of paying rent without money or trade, the want of common sustenance, with neither house nor clothes to cover them from the inclemencies of the weather, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever.

I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing.

The End
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 06:32:19 pm
no, the radio show was an adaptation of HGWells War of the Worlds
Orson wells was an actor, director etc

yes i know, it was to this

Quote from: deconstructmyhouse
IF HG WELLS HAD RUN A DISCLAIMER BEFORE THE BROADCAST OF WAR OF THE WORLDS
you never

i didnt intend malice, i simply assumed you confused the two

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 06:34:17 pm
This ain't the biggest,

it's, it's, AJ you have a BIG laugh over this,
everyone else is gonna.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:34:32 pm
yes i know, it was to this

i didnt intend malice, i simply assumed you confused the two



OH, got ya!  ;)  you're right and PS
 I didn't realize orson wells produced it...crazy
just a LITTLE before my time...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 06:35:01 pm
OH, got ya!  ;)  you're right and PS
 I didn't realize orson wells produced it...crazy

Sheesh a goody troll.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 06:35:06 pm
absolutely I'm willing to compare the two.
What's the problem?
You want to stand around and stay polite over this?
go ahead, but nothin's worked.
Getting your attention with a news grabbing headliner and a celebrity is just fine by me, especially considering what's at stake.

is it like War of the Worlds? You bet.
People experienced this as truth, and it lodged in their mind.
You can't take the analogy much past there, but you don't need to, just that's effective as hell.



Don't be stupid. You were clearly trying to put this in the same category as HG Wells literary works.

Quote
You want to stand around and stay polite over this?
go ahead, but nothin's worked.

Did I say that? No not at all.

But I do object to silly PR stunts which WILL BE used by the MSM goons to discredit 9/11 questioning even more.

The only people who were initially fooled were people who had been here for a while, not brand new people learning new information.

This could of and should of been done so differently and so much better.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tattoo8118 on September 08, 2009, 06:35:53 pm
It is a conspiracy theory

Silly me, I should have known.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:36:18 pm
Also, all you people here defending Jones' tactic as a brilliant 'psyop' -- please get a clue.   Think this one through for once.

Okay -- best case scenario:  You get some tabloid press coverage from examiner and a few other sites.   The more mainstream sites will make fun.

AT WHAT COST??

Alex has damaged his credibility terminally.    Why should people trust his content if he 'forgets' to put up disclaimers or mods are offering lame excuses about how it took three uploads?  Sorry -- these are weak excuses.   Take some personal responsibility for what happened.  Tell the damned truth.

The ends DO NOT justify the means.  Saying that Alex can deceive his audience in order to achieve some half-baked scheme of getting tabloid press coverage is unacceptable.  The truth stands on its own.  It does not need a 'coating' of lies.



What means are you referring to exactly.

The means used to exemplify the very essence of humanity?  The means used are specifically protected by the US constitution and bestowed upon us as a right from our creator.

Exactly what "means" worry you so much?

Shouldn't we be happy that constitutionally protected "means" allow us to expose the genocidal and satanic "means" of the Elite Bankers and Royals to bring out a New World Order?

Your priorities seem to be a bit off.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:37:20 pm
Sheesh a goody troll.

scuse me?
you callin me a troll?
Dude, you're trippin
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 06:37:55 pm
scuse me?
you callin me a troll?
Dude, you're trippin

No joke,
but seriously let us vent
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Imbue on September 08, 2009, 06:38:45 pm
Comments are being disabled not DELETED as mentioned on the live show. 

NOPE.

I was the 2nd comment. I didnt even realize it was a prank, but i could see it. My comment was to bring up another view of this, and it wasnt flattering to AJ or CS. About 30 min later, when i went to read more comments, mine was gone, along with the 1st comment, which also wasnt very nice.

I just went and checked, and there were at least 20 different comments mentioning the Jesuit connection to Martin Sheen. Guess what? THEY ARE GONE ALSO.

This is not the 1st time this has happened to me, and i can take it. BUT, you must question why over and over again people complain of their comments being deleted. Many people besides me have come to this same conclusion.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sh4mw0w on September 08, 2009, 06:39:49 pm
If you are comparing this half-baked nonsense to the genius of Jonathan Swift, you need to have your head examined.  If this was satire, it was an absolute failure.  

People taken in by Swift ended up confronting Malthusean morality.  This piece by Sheen and Jones only tricked his audience into losing their credibility with their friends, particularly if they forwarded it.  See the difference?


This was a deceptive article for which Jones should apologize to those who forwarded it under the assumption that it was real.  This will not get them to 'take the bait' -- this discredits 9/11 truth and all those interested in cutting through propaganda and deception.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: SUPREMEMASTER on September 08, 2009, 06:40:35 pm
CAN ANYONE ON THE PLANET PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS INTERVIEW WAS NOT GRANTED?

This is the question everyone should be asking.

These are basic fricking questions!

These questions not being allowed to be asked is a fricking obstruction of justice in the most basic frm.

WHY AREN'T THESE QUESTIONS ALLOWED?

WTF is this? Nazi Germany? Mao's China? Lyndon Johnson's America?

EIGHT YEARS!!!

EIGHT FRICKING YEARS!!!

THIS IS THE CONVERSATION THAT IS NEEDED ALL OVER THE GLOBE!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED BY EVERYONE THIS WEEK TO EVERYONE!
DON'T ASK QUESTIONS!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:40:36 pm
Don't be stupid. You were clearly trying to put this in the same category as HG Wells literary works.

Did I say that? No not at all.

But I do object to silly PR stunts which WILL BE used by the MSM goons to discredit 9/11 questioning even more.

The only people who were initially fooled were people who had been here for a while, not brand new people learning new information.

This could of and should of been done so differently and so much better.



Discredit 9/11 questioning? Are you from Mars?

It is impossible to discredit the over 5,000 unanswered questions about 9/11.

I would love to see anyone try to discredit the questions in the stellar interview by Charlie and Obama.  I mean Charlie was really on his game for that interview, perfect rebuttals in my opinion.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:40:58 pm
Don't be stupid. You were clearly trying to put this in the same category as HG Wells literary works.

Did I say that? No not at all.

But I do object to silly PR stunts which WILL BE used by the MSM goons to discredit 9/11 questioning even more.

The only people who were initially fooled were people who had been here for a while, not brand new people learning new information.

This could of and should of been done so differently and so much better.



Yeah, but the MSM goons will TALK ABOUT 911 because of this.
It will keep lodging in the public mind: 911 Truth  911 Truth  911 Charlie Sheen 911 truth

Believe me, if the msm goons pick up this story, it's a success no matter WHAT they do with it.
the background noise of 911 truth just got turned up
it had gone nearly silent.
 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 06:42:33 pm


I would love to see anyone try to discredit the questions in the stellar interview by Charlie and Obama.  I mean Charlie was really on his game for that interview, perfect rebuttals in my opinion.

Interview?  What interview?

It is a work of fiction, how can you call it an "interview"?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:42:39 pm
If you are comparing this half-baked nonsense to the genius of Jonathan Swift, you need to have your head examined.  If this was satire, it was an absolute failure.  

People taken in by Swift ended up confronting Malthusean morality.  This piece by Sheen and Jones only tricked his audience into losing their credibility with their friends, particularly if they forwarded it.  See the difference?


This was a deceptive article for which Jones should apologize to those who forwarded it under the assumption that it was real.  This will not get them to 'take the bait' -- this discredits 9/11 truth and all those interested in cutting through propaganda and deception.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you admit the basic human right to satire!

AWESOME!

Please stop acting like it ain't an awesome method of awakening a sleeping mass of sheeple.

I mean WTF, how can you love Jonny but not Charlie?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 06:43:25 pm
Discredit 9/11 questioning? Are you from Mars?

It is impossible to discredit the over 5,000 unanswered questions about 9/11.

I would love to see anyone try to discredit the questions in the stellar interview by Charlie and Obama.  I mean Charlie was really on his game for that interview, perfect rebuttals in my opinion.

You gotta love this man, really, as always.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 06:44:57 pm
Niiiice... I just heard the "truthers" now being referred to as "Spoofers".  ::)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 06:45:18 pm

I would love to see anyone try to discredit the questions in the stellar interview by Charlie and Obama.  I mean Charlie was really on his game for that interview, perfect rebuttals in my opinion.

What?! have you added 'in' to the start of your name or something? what bloomin interveiw?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:45:52 pm
Interview?  What interview?

It is a work of fiction, how can you call it an "interview"?

It is an interview like Colbert's "Formidable Opponent" ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:45:58 pm
If you are comparing this half-baked nonsense to the genius of Jonathan Swift, you need to have your head examined.  If this was satire, it was an absolute failure.  


If this was a failure
WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT IT

definition of a success in the 911 movement for me is: is it still pinging in the national conscious?
AJ and CS have succeeded in doing the impossible: regalvanizing the controversy

and friends, I don't care what that controversy looks like, as long as it's impassioned and loud.  We've been lulled into forgetting the most heinous crime of the century

you think I care if a couple dedicated guys pulled a little bait and switch to try and get justice done?

it's all in a day's work

trust me: down the road no one will care how this got started, as long as it got started
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sh4mw0w on September 08, 2009, 06:46:17 pm
Quote
What means are you referring to exactly.
The means of DECEPTION, sir.


Quote
"The means used to exemplify the very essence of humanity?  The means used are specifically protected by the US constitution and bestowed upon us as a right from our creator."
Deception as protected speech?   If this was satire, it was awful.

Quote
Exactly what "means" worry you so much?
DECEPTION and LIES.   The natural outcome of using deception and lies to achieve your objectives is nihilism and ultimately murder.

Quote
Shouldn't we be happy that constitutionally protected "means" allow us to expose the genocidal and satanic "means" of the Elite Bankers and Ro :'(yals to bring out a New World Order?
Yes but what happened to simply telling the Truth?  Why don't we come out and discuss Blavatsky, Bailey, Spangler, Pike, Mazinni, etc etc. Why this nonsense with a crappy celebrity and a fake deceptive letter?  This does nothing but cause uneeded controversy and destroy credibility.


Quote
Your priorities seem to be a bit off."
Sir if you have no sense of intrinsic morality, in that this sort of deception is WRONG, then I would suggest it is your priorities which are off.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 06:48:07 pm
Discredit 9/11 questioning? Are you from Mars?

It is impossible to discredit the over 5,000 unanswered questions about 9/11.

I would love to see anyone try to discredit the questions in the stellar interview by Charlie and Obama.  I mean Charlie was really on his game for that interview, perfect rebuttals in my opinion.

Do you seriously think that the MSM goons will even mention what is in the article?

All they will do is portray this as a PR stunt that dishonours the dead and their families. They will drag up Sheens past call him a nutjob and probably question whether he is using again. What's more is they can tie AJ to it all the way down the line.

They won't even touch the content inside.

We have all seen the likes of O'Reilly and Hannity and the way they operate. Part of the Sheen clips AJ was playing even detailed how they tried discreditting him. That is what they do.
The way this has been done has just gave them all the ammunition they need to discredit Sheen and AJ even more.

What is more they will probably show their listeners as to how AJ duped his own followers in they way he did by not adding the disclaimer straight away.


Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:49:10 pm
Niiiice... I just heard the "truthers" now being referred to as "Spoofers".  ::)

Sweet! All the names in the world have failed to stop the momentum. I love it when they use 40 year old CoIntelPro absurdities to continue covering up genocidal creating false flags. Exposes precisely the kind of psychopaths we are dealing with.

The Pharaohs are running wild! Like a bunch of fricking cockroaches when the lights come on.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:50:04 pm
What?! have you added 'in' to the start of your name or something? what bloomin interveiw?

the FAUX interview of course
a faux interview is still an interview

get over it

 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:50:49 pm
What?! have you added 'in' to the start of your name or something? what bloomin interveiw?

bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha, made ya look.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:52:07 pm
Do you seriously think that the MSM goons will even mention what is in the article?

All they will do is portray this as a PR stunt that dishonours the dead and their families. They will drag up Sheens past call him a nutjob and probably question whether he is using again. What's more is they can tie AJ to it all the way down the line.

They won't even touch the content inside.

We have all seen the likes of O'Reilly and Hannity and the way they operate. Part of the Sheen clips AJ was playing even detailed how they tried discreditting him. That is what they do.
The way this has been done has just gave them all the ammunition they need to discredit Sheen and AJ even more.

What is more they will probably show their listeners as to how AJ duped his own followers in they way he did by not adding the disclaimer straight away.




who cares AS LONG AS THEY TALK ABOUT IT

the nwo wants it to go quietly away
back to sleep amerika

Charlie and AJ and anyone who wants to jump on this and blog write call in talk about it will help it stay in the national consciousness where it belongs.

I'm not willing to let this go the way of the Kennedy assassinations and all the other free handed crimes this mafia cabal has loosed on us.
I just got a fresh tool.
I'm using it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 06:53:10 pm
the FAUX interview of course
a faux interview is still an interview

get over it

 

A fake discussion with an imaginary friend is not an interview.  It is fiction.

Get over it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:54:28 pm
The means of DECEPTION, sir.

Deception as protected speech?   If this was satire, it was awful.
DECEPTION and LIES.   The natural outcome of using deception and lies to achieve your objectives is nihilism and ultimately murder.
Yes but what happened to simply telling the Truth?  Why don't we come out and discuss Blavatsky, Bailey, Spangler, Pike, Mazinni, etc etc. Why this nonsense with a crappy celebrity and a fake deceptive letter?  This does nothing but cause uneeded controversy and destroy credibility.

Sir if you have no sense of intrinsic morality, in that this sort of deception is WRONG, then I would suggest it is your priorities which are off.


Deception?

Really?

You do know the distinction between deceptions like the Tuskegee experiment and satire right? You do understand the difference between deceptions like the official 9/11 conspiracy theory and a masterful work of literary genius in exposing said deception?

Just for sanity's sake...You do know the difference between a banana and the space-time continuum?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:54:50 pm
Do you seriously think that the MSM goons will even mention what is in the article?

All they will do is portray this as a PR stunt that dishonours the dead and their families. They will drag up Sheens past call him a nutjob and probably question whether he is using again. What's more is they can tie AJ to it all the way down the line.

They won't even touch the content inside.

We have all seen the likes of O'Reilly and Hannity and the way they operate. Part of the Sheen clips AJ was playing even detailed how they tried discreditting him. That is what they do.
The way this has been done has just gave them all the ammunition they need to discredit Sheen and AJ even more.

What is more they will probably show their listeners as to how AJ duped his own followers in they way he did by not adding the disclaimer straight away.




the msm is wearing thin
you know that
people are waking up
those town hall meetings were crazy
all we need is for the 911 story to stay out there, in any form
people are starting to see through the lies
why is it so hard to just imagine this could be a good thing?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:56:16 pm
A fake discussion with an imaginary friend is not an interview.  It is fiction.

Get over it.

C'mon man, read it a few times, it is fricking brilliant. The questions are undeniable and must be read to even attempt at criticizing this work of art.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 06:56:22 pm
who cares AS LONG AS THEY TALK ABOUT IT

the nwo wants it to go quietly away
back to sleep amerika

Charlie and AJ and anyone who wants to jump on this and blog write call in talk about it will help it stay in the national consciousness where it belongs.

I'm not willing to let this go the way of the Kennedy assassinations and all the other free handed crimes this mafia cabal has loosed on us.
I just got a fresh tool.
I'm using it.


"who cares AS LONG AS THEY TALK ABOUT IT"

Talk about what exactly?? Sheen discreditation?

It is 8th September. In 3 days the MSM will be talking about 9/11 anyway.

Yes I can really see how hit piece after hit piece destroying Sheens credibility in "faking" an interview will make the flood gates open at infowars.


Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 06:56:42 pm
What is more they will probably show their listeners as to how AJ duped his own followers in they way he did by not adding the disclaimer straight away.

This is already being done.... fortunately or unfortunately depending on the way you look at it. Some feel any publicity is good publicity I suppose. I do not.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 06:57:01 pm
Sadly this is the only forum that believes this will wake mass amounts of people up,anything I have read outside the forum are basically comments on how Alex lost credibility,how this was the 3rd or 4th time Alex bigged something as the biggest thing he ever did and comes to very little again.

If this works out I will be the first to admit I was wrong and I'll eat my hat,in fact you can all send me your hats and I'll eat them too,but sadly I don't hold out much faith to be honest.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 06:57:44 pm
A fake discussion with an imaginary friend is not an interview.  It is fiction.

Get over it.


alrighty then: "The fictitious interview"
it shall hereby be known as
xcellent
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:58:01 pm

"who cares AS LONG AS THEY TALK ABOUT IT"

Talk about what exactly?? Sheen discreditation?

It is 8th September. In 3 days the MSM will be talking about 9/11 anyway.

Yes I can really see how hit piece after hit piece destroying Sheens credibility in "faking" an interview will make the flood gates open at infowars.




Damn straight!


They will have to actually read the brilliant work of art in order to "discredit" him for being a humorist.  oooh, aaaah...boogie boogie boogie
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 06:59:34 pm
What is more they will probably show their listeners as to how AJ duped his own followers in they way he did by not adding the disclaimer straight away.

This is already being done.... fortunately or unfortunately depending on the way you look at it. Some feel any publicity is good publicity I suppose. I do not.


yeah WTF!

I WAS DUPED!!!!

I WANT ALL MY LIES BACK DAMN IT!

I WANT A BRAIN IMPLANT TO ERASE ALL THE TRUTH I HAVE VERIFIED AFTER LISTENING TO AJ AND OTHERS AND THEN DOING MY OWN RESEARCH!!

THAT WILL SHOW THEM!!!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:00:07 pm

"who cares AS LONG AS THEY TALK ABOUT IT"

Talk about what exactly?? Sheen discreditation?

It is 8th September. In 3 days the MSM will be talking about 9/11 anyway.

Yes I can really see how hit piece after hit piece destroying Sheens credibility in "faking" an interview will make the flood gates open at infowars.




people are discerning and curious
they will research this and learn something
they aren't just going to go: oh Charlie Sheen's an asshole
Remember: he's a beloved actor with one of THE MOST popular series on tv now
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 07:01:55 pm
C'mon man, read it a few times, it is fricking brilliant. The questions are undeniable and must be read to even attempt at criticizing this work of art.

Charlie Sheen sent a letter to Obama, requesting an interview to discuss 9-11?  Excellent.

The letter included a number of questions, backed up by facts?  Excellent.

The letter included an imaginary "interview" between Sheen and Obama?  Err, not so excellent.  That's where the whole thing jumped the rail, IMO.

Sorry, that's how it initially struck me and I haven't changed my mind.  I really think if the whole "interview"  concept had been left out of the mix this whole thing would be taken much more seriously.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 07:02:13 pm
Sadly this is the only forum that believes this will wake mass amounts of people up,anything I have read outside the forum are basically comments on how Alex lost credibility,how this was the 3rd or 4th time Alex bigged something as the biggest thing he ever did and comes to very little again.

If this works out I will be the first to admit I was wrong and I'll eat my hat,in fact you can all send me your hats and I'll eat them too,but sadly I don't hold out much faith to be honest.

Work?  It is satire. It already works. Just ask people..."Why is Obama declining this interview?"

"Why are these questions unanswered after 8 years?"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:03:44 pm
Sadly this is the only forum that believes this will wake mass amounts of people up,anything I have read outside the forum are basically comments on how Alex lost credibility,how this was the 3rd or 4th time Alex bigged something as the biggest thing he ever did and comes to very little again.

If this works out I will be the first to admit I was wrong and I'll eat my hat,in fact you can all send me your hats and I'll eat them too,but sadly I don't hold out much faith to be honest.

happily, this is one of the more informed forums on the net. If anyone is able to get this, we are. And I don't believe this will wake mass amounts of people up, fact is: I have no idea what it will do. I'm just glad a fire got lit.
 I can say I am thrilled to know all the forums are talking about it.  successful already

 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 07:05:39 pm
happily, this is one of the more informed forums on the net. If anyone is able to get this, we are. And I don't believe this will wake mass amounts of people up, fact is: I have no idea what it will do. I'm just glad a fire got lit.
 I can say I am thrilled to know all the forums are talking about it.  successful already

 

Wow, talk about deluding yourself...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 07:05:45 pm
Damn straight!


They will have to actually read the brilliant work of art in order to "discredit" him for being a humorist.  oooh, aaaah...boogie boogie boogie

How exactly?

Let me show you what they will want their viewers to see.

1. AJ and Sheen fake that Sheen had a 20 minute meeting with Obama.
   They will use lots of Sheens dubious past (as they always do) they will probably roll out some fake friend who is worried about sheens "Mental State".

2. Then they will show that AJ duped his own followers into thinking this was real.

3. Then they will play on how this was a stupid PR stunt that dishonours those killed in 9/11 and their families.

Not once will they have to read anything within the piece to do this.

Answer me this very basic questions?

1. Will the MSM cover this in a good light and even mention the content?

All they will do is cover how this was done NOT THE CONTENT!! You have seen them do this time and time again. It is not about the content. People aren't questioning how good it is what they are questioning is the method in which it was done.

happily, this is one of the more informed forums on the net. If anyone is able to get this, we are. And I don't believe this will wake mass amounts of people up, fact is: I have no idea what it will do. I'm just glad a fire got lit.
 I can say I am thrilled to know all the forums are talking about it.  successful already

 

Thrilled?

Do you really think it is being discussed in a good manner?

The other forums I have seen, not one has even mentioned how well written the piece is or what it covers. What they are talking about is the execution of it and seeing many say they will no longer listen to AJ.

That is not positive.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 07:07:18 pm
Charlie Sheen sent a letter to Obama, requesting an interview to discuss 9-11?  Excellent.

The letter included a number of questions, backed up by facts?  Excellent.

The letter included an imaginary "interview" between Sheen and Obama?  Err, not so excellent.  That's where the whole thing jumped the rail, IMO.

Sorry, that's how it initially struck me and I haven't changed my mind.  I really think if the whole "interview"  concept had been left out of the mix this whole thing would be taken much more seriously.

After over 40 years of sending similar requests to government officials to get some truth about false flag terrorism, the artistic work of satire is a damn fine touch.

Hey what ever happened to this novella sent to congress in 1996 which if properly read and investigated would have prevented 9/11 and almost all infringements on civil liberties:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=132825.0
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 07:07:52 pm
Charlie Sheen sent a letter to Obama, requesting an interview to discuss 9-11?  Excellent.

The letter included a number of questions, backed up by facts?  Excellent.

The letter included an imaginary "interview" between Sheen and Obama?  Err, not so excellent.  That's where the whole thing jumped the rail, IMO.

Sorry, that's how it initially struck me and I haven't changed my mind.  I really think if the whole "interview"  concept had been left out of the mix this whole thing would be taken much more seriously.

qft,
is it just me or is it getting worse?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 07:08:54 pm
Damn straight!


They will have to actually read the brilliant work of art in order to "discredit" him for being a humorist.  oooh, aaaah...boogie boogie boogie

I imagine youre right for some folks, Sane. Others will take this much differently. I see things really black and white... and these things arent humorous or amusing to me. I havent the time ( or inclination) to waste time on humor or satire when Im weeding through things for truth (and evidence). These things muddy the waters IMO. I rejected it outright before the disclaimer because it was patently and obviously false as far as I felt whilst reading it. Now I must question what next revelation will be "satire" or "truth" or somewhere in between. Purely a diversion from immediate pressing issues I feel. Brilliant? No. IMO another played out and much overused tactic, especially coming from folks who declare themselves proclaimers of truth and truth alone.

I would hope that adults here would be able to disagree on this without fighting and losing respect for one another. Unfortunately it seems one must choose which side of the playground they want to be associated with if they choose to voice their opinion.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:09:30 pm

Sorry, that's how it initially struck me and I haven't changed my mind.  I really think if the whole "interview"  concept had been left out of the mix this whole thing would be taken much more seriously.

we wouldn't be still talking about it.
you know that's true.
the forums wouldn't be ablaze with righteous anger right now...

short story:
The 911 perpetrators blew the lid off of civilized behavior and decency: killing their own people to take their rights away from them and wage endless war in their name.  I mean, really: and then the cover up and years of lies.

And you are pissed about this?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 07:11:41 pm
we wouldn't be still talking about it.
you know that's true.
the forums wouldn't be ablaze with righteous anger right now...

short story:
The 911 perpetrators blew the lid off of civilized behavior and decency: killing their own people to take their rights away from them and wage endless war in their name.  I mean, really: and then the cover up and years of lies.

And you are pissed about this?

"the forums wouldn't be ablaze with righteous anger right now..."

Yes and who is it from? People who were already here? People who don't believe the official story. People who are here who actually want the truth to come out.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 07:12:00 pm
i havent seen 9/11 or the bullet points discussed AT ALL, just alot of chatter about the stunt pulled today.

I really dont see this as a good thing, the only thing the MSM will do with it is chew it up and spit it back out powered by the 'truthers' own lies and attmpted deceptions.
This is not good!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:14:38 pm
How exactly?

Let me show you what they will want their viewers to see.

1. AJ and Sheen fake that Sheen had a 20 minute meeting with Obama.
   They will use lots of Sheens dubious past (as they always do) they will probably roll out some fake friend who is worried about sheens "Mental State".

2. Then they will show that AJ duped his own followers into thinking this was real.

3. Then they will play on how this was a stupid PR stunt that dishonours those killed in 9/11 and their families.

Not once will they have to read anything within the piece to do this.

Answer me this very basic questions?

1. Will the MSM cover this in a good light and even mention the content?

All they will do is cover how this was done NOT THE CONTENT!! You have seen them do this time and time again. It is not about the content. People aren't questioning how good it is what they are questioning is the method in which it was done.

Thrilled?

Do you really think it is being discussed in a good manner?

The other forums I have seen, not one has even mentioned how well written the piece is or what it covers. What they are talking about is the execution of it and seeing many say they will no longer listen to AJ.

That is not positive.

i don't care if it's being discussed in a good manner.  They will read the bad ass "FICTITIONAL" interview, and they will revisit this travesty and those who haven't gotten it may even get it and the information in the FICTITIONAL interview, because it is well done, will triumph.

Alex doesn't care if people are pissed.  He knows: It's about the noise.

And stay tuned: people will continue tuning into Alex because his guests are the best and his info is the most researched and progressive out there.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Okinawa on September 08, 2009, 07:15:08 pm
I would love to see anyone try to discredit the questions in the stellar interview by Charlie and Obama.  I mean Charlie was really on his game for that interview, perfect rebuttals in my opinion.

I'm waiting for the sequel, this time with answers to the 20 points raised.

Maybe Bush and Cheney will also respond to a request to be interviewed. Do you think they would come out as clean as Nixon did during the Frost interviews?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13ngyDqeXs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13ngyDqeXs)

Won't it be cool to interview all NWO scum prior to and during their trials?

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:15:32 pm
i havent seen 9/11 or the bullet points discussed AT ALL, just alot of chatter about the stunt pulled today.

I really dont see this as a good thing, the only thing the MSM will do with it is chew it up and spit it back out powered by the 'truthers' own lies and attmpted deceptions.
This is not good!

well, we pretty much KNOW the bullet points by heart here
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:17:13 pm
"the forums wouldn't be ablaze with righteous anger right now..."

Yes and who is it from? People who were already here? People who don't believe the official story. People who are here who actually want the truth to come out.



it wasn't for them...
but i think their anger could be a revitalizing boomerang for the movement as well
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Georgiacopguy on September 08, 2009, 07:19:26 pm
Just Google 20 Minutes with the President. There are quite a few ppl discussing it, quite a few griping that it's fake, and quite a few debating the facts. Every debate that has taken place on this forum is being duplicated on forums around the net. It may work better than some foresee, and worse than some hope. Only time will tell, and in the meantime, I'm reserving judgment, becuase I just do not know.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 07:20:41 pm
happily, this is one of the more informed forums on the net. If anyone is able to get this, we are. And I don't believe this will wake mass amounts of people up, fact is: I have no idea what it will do. I'm just glad a fire got lit.
I can say I am thrilled to know all the forums are talking about it.  successful already


The forums are not talking about the impact the interview may or may not have,they are talking about Alex Jones losing credibility,untrustworthy,unreliable,how can that be good ???

I was trilled and amazed to see it on a non conspiracy Irish political website,people waiting in anticipation for this huge announcement and I thought finally here we are,average people are going to start to understand what we have always known,and all it ended up doing was pissing people off,saying it was a waste of time and they never believed or trusted Alex Jones and this confirms it.

Ron Paul is a US congressman,Charlie Sheen could have actually gotten an interview with him I have no doubt,theres somebody that also needs to be asked the same questions as he too believes 19 box cutting Islamic terrorists orchestrated the attacks on 9/11.Alex interviews Ron Paul a lot,had he not pass on these facts on to the congressman already.

Do you see my point,and I mean Alex going all starry eyed and Hollywood for the first hour didn't really help matters either.   
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:21:18 pm
Just Google 20 Minutes with the President. There are quite a few ppl discussing it, quite a few griping that it's fake, and quite a few debating the facts. Every debate that has taken place on this forum is being duplicated on forums around the net. It may work better than some foresee, and worse than some hope. Only time will tell, and in the meantime, I'm reserving judgment, becuase I just do not know.

right on
thanks for the update
 
remember this is an INFO WAR
and all's fair in love and WAR
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 07:21:27 pm
It's Working! ;D

The Alex Jones Show: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11 Cover-Up
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908
Tue Sep 8, 2009 7:36pm EDT

The Alex Jones Show: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11
Cover-Up
Actor demands investigation be reopened after majority of 9/11 Commission
members say government lied about official story.

AUSTIN, Texas, Sept. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- According to syndicated talk show host
Alex Jones, actor and television star Charlie Sheen has publicly requested a
meeting with President Barack Obama to urge him to reopen the official
investigation into 9/11; in light of the fact that the majority of the 9/11
Commission members have now publicly gone on record to express their
conviction that the government agreed to lie about the official story.

Sheen will appear live on The Alex Jones Show on Wednesday and Friday to
discuss the content of his "20 Minutes With The President" piece and how he
plans to move forward with this exciting new initiative. You can listen free
here or subscribe to prison planet.tv to watch live streaming video.

Sheen's request takes the form of a letter to the President in the context of
a fictional meeting between the two entitled "20 Minutes With The President,"
published exclusively on radio talk show host Alex Jones' Infowars.com and
Prison Planet.com websites. Clip:
http://www.infowars.com/media/20090908-CharlieSheenINT-Promises.mp3 .

The letter cites evidence, backed up by a substantial online bibliography,
that alleges to prove the official story behind 9/11 is a fraud and that this
conclusion was also reached by the majority of the 9/11 Commission members, a
fact that mandates President Obama to reopen the investigation into the
terrorist attacks.

Sheen expresses his hope that President Obama will follow through on his
promises of change, accountability and government transparency by using his
executive powers to re-examine 9/11, adding that he voted for Obama with the
understanding that he would follow a different course to the Bush
administration.

However, as Sheen highlights in his letter, the course of Obama's first year
in office clearly indicates that he will do nothing to reverse policies
crafted by the Bush regime, and in fact has sought to exceed outrages of the
previous administration in areas such as warrantless wiretapping, rendition,
detention without trial, and wars in the Middle East - all of which arrived as
a consequence of 9/11.

Sheen's letter is a public declaration demanding the truth behind 9/11 as
America approaches its eighth anniversary since the tragic events of that day.
His questions are shared by a majority of victims' family members, according
to Bill Doyle, the representative of the largest 9/11 families group.

The letter focuses around the fact that no less than 60 per cent of the 9/11
commissioners have now publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell
the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception
about their response to the attack.

Sheen also presents a plethora of other evidence to illustrate how the
official story is a fraud, including the revelations of whistle blowers like
FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, who recently broke a Federal gag order to expose
how Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were working for the U.S. government right up until
the day of 9/11.

The issues highlighted by Sheen do not represent idle speculation or
conspiracy fodder, they are documented facts that have been deliberately
ignored by other 9/11 programming that is now airing  as the anniversary
approaches, particularly last months' 9/11: Science and Conspiracy which was
aired by the National Geographic Channel and wasted little time in portraying
people who have doubts about the official 9/11 story as extremist cranks,
while failing to acknowledge that the majority of the members of the 9/11
Commission have publicly expressed similar concerns.

Charlie Sheen is once again using his prominent public platform in an attempt
to expand a national debate about the disturbing unanswered questions behind
9/11, having first spoken out on the issue in March 2006 on The Alex Jones
Show. After he first went public, Sheen was asked to do more and now he is
doing more as he feels there is a chance to get more traction behind a new
investigation with a new President in the White House.

Sheen is directly appealing to Barack Obama to read his letter and to look
into the lies surrounding 9/11 for himself.

Regardless of whether or not President Obama agrees to meet with him, Sheen is
confident that his letter will serve as a catalyst from which questions
surrounding 9/11 and other false flag events will be brought to national
attention.

This is a call to action and a declaration of war on the alleged lies of 9/11
that have formed the foundation of the endless wars abroad and the police
state at home as the Republic falls. Sheen is demanding that truth activists
and those who simply care about the future of the country stand up beside him
and speak truth to power.

Sheen is now urging grass roots political organizations and individuals across
the country to go to press conferences and other public events and demand
answers about the truth behind 9/11. As much awareness as possible around the
issue of false flag terrorism needs to be generated in order to prevent
tragedies like 9/11 from happening again. Sheen emphasizes in his letter that
we cannot let 9/11 become ancient history, try and forget about it or just
move on, because if a nation forgets its history then it is doomed to repeat
it.

We cannot allow governments to continue to advance their political agendas by
exploiting forged pretexts, argues Sheen, and the fact that big budget hit
pieces against 9/11 truth are still being rolled out proves that the
establishment is upset that the population is waking up to false flag terror.

No matter what your views are on 9/11, Sheen is asking the thinking public to
look at how many members of the 9/11 Commission itself have questioned the
official story, along with the scores of other highly credible former and
current government officials, intelligence professionals, military officials,
scientists, structural engineers and architects, and legal scholars who have
all publicly denounced the fraud that continues to masquerade as the official
9/11 story.

For media requests on this subject email [email protected]

The Alex Jones Show broadcasts live from Austin, TX from 11am - 3pm Central.
Alex Jones' show and websites www.infowars.com and www.prisonplanet.com are a
focal point and a forum where many prominent figures from academia, the
political world and Hollywood have spoken out about what really happened on
September 11th.

More information:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president.html

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*(Caption: Charlie Sheen. Credit: Alex Jones.)

This release was issued on behalf of the above organization by Send2Press(R),
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[email protected]
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 07:21:48 pm
i don't care if it's being discussed in a good manner.  They will read the bad ass "FICTITIONAL" interview, and they will revisit this travesty and those who haven't gotten it may even get it and the information in the FICTITIONAL interview, because it is well done, will triumph.

Alex doesn't care if people are pissed.  He knows: It's about the noise.

And stay tuned: people will continue tuning into Alex because his guests are the best and his info is the most researched and progressive out there.

No they didn't and are even refusing to read the "bad ass "FICTITIONAL" interview" because of the way it was done.

Alex should care that people are walking away from his show now. They are people who were in some cases long time listeners and donaters to the cause.

We need every man and woman to fight this.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: AHAD_THE_ONE on September 08, 2009, 07:22:10 pm
even if the interview was genuine, obama wont take action from the interview cause if he does he will be assisnated by the elite like they did to JFK. Obama is just a puppet and he is scared of the elite above him.

If i was a true president i would risk my life for the american people. Instead of straight sniper assination the elite could poison, stage accident etc.

Lots of famous people and politicians died speaking against the elite. To name a few, 2 Pac, Bruce Lee, Robin cook and lots more.

Bruce Lee most memorable message was in his 'Game of Death' film, where he goes up the pyramid to fight the last master, similar to the elite at the top.

2 Pac made a album called kill illuminati but they killed him before that album did damage to the elite.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 07:23:38 pm
How exactly?

Let me show you what they will want their viewers to see.

1. AJ and Sheen fake that Sheen had a 20 minute meeting with Obama.

"fake interview with Obama? President Obama? Charlie Sheen? Where is this interview? What does he say? Shit, 9/11? I have questions about 9/11. WHERE IS THE INTERVIEW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET ME THE INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote
  They will use lots of Sheens dubious past (as they always do) they will probably roll out some fake friend who is worried about sheens "Mental State".


Yup and this again exposes the psychopaths and genocidal maniacs just as it always has in the past. Read a true story about this from one of this forum's members and how the New Zealand government was forced to issue an apology for being psychopathic, delusional, paranoid, control freaks...
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=55664.0


Quote
2. Then they will show that AJ duped his own followers into thinking this was real.

oooooh, scary....just like Jonathon Swift followers (thanks for pointing out this similarity ;))

Quote
3. Then they will play on how this was a stupid PR stunt that dishonours those killed in 9/11 and their families.

Failing to attempt new ways to expose the truth utilizing god's gift of independent thinking dishonours humanity. You really think that people using constitutionally protected inalienable rights dishonours the families? Hmm, I find that rather odd. Do you have any evidence, proof, logic, rationality, sourced information to back up this outlandish accusation used by Bill Clinton?  "HOW DARE YOU!"

Quote
Not once will they have to read anything within the piece to do this.

Really? Then they definitely will fail. People can smell hit pieces without any depth a mile away.

Quote
Answer me this very basic questions?

1. Will the MSM cover this in a good light and even mention the content?

If you still worship the MSM, you may want to hang out at a different forum.

Quote
All they will do is cover how this was done NOT THE CONTENT!! You have seen them do this time and time again. It is not about the content. People aren't questioning how good it is what they are questioning is the method in which it was done.

You mean like how they questioned the method for getting us into the genocides in the middle east?  The MSM exposes every day how they are G7 Banker controlled propaganda and mind control matrices. Their attempt to discredit these undeniable glaring unanswered questions will assist in waking millions more up to the matrix around them.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:24:37 pm

The forums are not talking about the impact the interview may or may not have,they are talking about Alex Jones losing credibility,untrustworthy,unreliable,how can that be good ???

I was trilled and amazed to see it on a non conspiracy Irish political website,people waiting in anticipation for this huge announcement and I thought finally here we are,average people are going to start to understand what we have always known,and all it ended up doing was pissing people off,saying it was a waste of time and they never believed or trusted Alex Jones and this confirms it.

Ron Paul is a US congressman,Charlie Sheen could have actually gotten an interview with him I have no doubt,theres somebody that also needs to be asked the same questions as he too believes 19 box cutting Islamic terrorists orchestrated the attacks on 9/11.Alex interviews Ron Paul a lot,had he not pass on these facts on to the congressman already.

Do you see my point,and I mean Alex going all starry eyed and Hollywood for the first hour didn't really help matters either.   

yeah, I'm bummed that Ron Paul doesn't get millions of viewers a week, he should, but fact is: Charlie Sheen does
and Charlie's a decent human besides
so: why not THIS hollywood "stunt"
why not this, why not now?
A Ron Paul interview would have been great, but it wouldn't have blown the lid off
any lid is fine with me at this point

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 07:25:25 pm
A fake discussion with an imaginary friend is not an interview.  It is fiction.

Get over it.

Imaginary friend??

It is truth, married to a fiction...  Barack Obama being the fiction... as has been said, it was beautifully written, it reads like a movie script... it painted Obama as almost one of the good guys... at least concerned in some areas... I'm curious if you actually read the article...

JTCoyoté

"The common curse of mankind - folly and ignorance."
~ William Shakespeare
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 07:26:12 pm
Ron Paul site

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/106041

Quote
I am steaming right now. Alex Jones just hoodwinked all of us, again.

Nobody with any journalistic integrity would put a dislaimer at the bottom of an article saying it was all made up. I actually had hope for a few minutes there, now I am just angry.

Alex Jones is the Used Car Salesman of Liberty Merchandise
output

take a look at the title on ats

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread499423/pg1
Charlie Sheen "interviews" President Obama [Alex Jones HOAX!]

Quote
For the first 90+ minutes of availability, the InfoWars.com website was presenting this article as an actual interview by Charlie Sheen with President Obama. Some time after the interview first appeared, the comments, "What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet," were added to the article on InfoWars.com.

You have been hoaxed by Alex Jones.

Here is the link to the originally posted interview, before the additional comment indicating the interview was fiction:
Original Charlie Sheen "Twenty Minutes With The President" Story - With No Disclaimer

Thanks to ATS member getreadyalready for capturing the unedited original page.

talking about the points are they? or are they talking about the hoax?

Quote
No what Alex did-- was a Hoax. This deals with a very Serious Issue and its an issue where lots of family members are trying to be serious about. We don't need this sh*t from Alex.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris jones on September 08, 2009, 07:26:55 pm

The collaterall damage will not compare to the eyes opened, isn't that what we are doing here.

A stunt, OK. so what. If citizens read this they may feel offended for at first, or they may wish it was for real, in any event it will call attention, not all negative by any means.

CS put his arse on the line in the only way he could, please shiite on someone else. I prefer his methods of that of the regime.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 07:27:15 pm
I imagine youre right for some folks, Sane. Others will take this much differently. I see things really black and white... and these things arent humorous or amusing to me. I havent the time ( or inclination) to waste time on humor or satire when Im weeding through things for truth (and evidence). These things muddy the waters IMO. I rejected it outright before the disclaimer because it was patently and obviously false as far as I felt whilst reading it. Now I must question what next revelation will be "satire" or "truth" or somewhere in between. Purely a diversion from immediate pressing issues I feel. Brilliant? No. IMO another played out and much overused tactic, especially coming from folks who declare themselves proclaimers of truth and truth alone.

I would hope that adults here would be able to disagree on this without fighting and losing respect for one another. Unfortunately it seems one must choose which side of the playground they want to be associated with if they choose to voice their opinion.

I still respect you but disagree. IMO satire and humor do not disrespect the victims of the horrors caused by psychopathic elite scumbags. It is another way of exposing the truth to those still under the spell of trauma based mind control. It has been used for thousands of years to expose the pharaohs of their respective time periods.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 07:29:25 pm
Ron Paul site

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/106041

take a look at the title on ats

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread499423/pg1
Charlie Sheen "interviews" President Obama [Alex Jones HOAX!]



Dude, how long have you known about dailypaul? Ron Paul does not review every post (WTF?). Apparently you have not been around dailypaul during the numerous troll fests.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 07:30:15 pm
It's Working! ;D

The Alex Jones Show: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11 Cover-Up
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908
Tue Sep 8, 2009 7:36pm EDT

The Alex Jones Show: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11
Cover-Up
Actor demands investigation be reopened after majority of 9/11 Commission
members say government lied about official story.

AUSTIN, Texas, Sept. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- According to syndicated talk show host
Alex Jones, actor and television star Charlie Sheen has publicly requested a
meeting with President Barack Obama to urge him to reopen the official
investigation into 9/11; in light of the fact that the majority of the 9/11
Commission members have now publicly gone on record to express their
conviction that the government agreed to lie about the official story.

Sheen will appear live on The Alex Jones Show on Wednesday and Friday to
discuss the content of his "20 Minutes With The President" piece and how he
plans to move forward with this exciting new initiative. You can listen free
here or subscribe to prison planet.tv to watch live streaming video.

Sheen's request takes the form of a letter to the President in the context of
a fictional meeting between the two entitled "20 Minutes With The President,"
published exclusively on radio talk show host Alex Jones' Infowars.com and
Prison Planet.com websites. Clip:
http://www.infowars.com/media/20090908-CharlieSheenINT-Promises.mp3 .

The letter cites evidence, backed up by a substantial online bibliography,
that alleges to prove the official story behind 9/11 is a fraud and that this
conclusion was also reached by the majority of the 9/11 Commission members, a
fact that mandates President Obama to reopen the investigation into the
terrorist attacks.

Sheen expresses his hope that President Obama will follow through on his
promises of change, accountability and government transparency by using his
executive powers to re-examine 9/11, adding that he voted for Obama with the
understanding that he would follow a different course to the Bush
administration.

However, as Sheen highlights in his letter, the course of Obama's first year
in office clearly indicates that he will do nothing to reverse policies
crafted by the Bush regime, and in fact has sought to exceed outrages of the
previous administration in areas such as warrantless wiretapping, rendition,
detention without trial, and wars in the Middle East - all of which arrived as
a consequence of 9/11.

Sheen's letter is a public declaration demanding the truth behind 9/11 as
America approaches its eighth anniversary since the tragic events of that day.
His questions are shared by a majority of victims' family members, according
to Bill Doyle, the representative of the largest 9/11 families group.

The letter focuses around the fact that no less than 60 per cent of the 9/11
commissioners have now publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell
the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception
about their response to the attack.

Sheen also presents a plethora of other evidence to illustrate how the
official story is a fraud, including the revelations of whistle blowers like
FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, who recently broke a Federal gag order to expose
how Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were working for the U.S. government right up until
the day of 9/11.

The issues highlighted by Sheen do not represent idle speculation or
conspiracy fodder, they are documented facts that have been deliberately
ignored by other 9/11 programming that is now airing  as the anniversary
approaches, particularly last months' 9/11: Science and Conspiracy which was
aired by the National Geographic Channel and wasted little time in portraying
people who have doubts about the official 9/11 story as extremist cranks,
while failing to acknowledge that the majority of the members of the 9/11
Commission have publicly expressed similar concerns.

Charlie Sheen is once again using his prominent public platform in an attempt
to expand a national debate about the disturbing unanswered questions behind
9/11, having first spoken out on the issue in March 2006 on The Alex Jones
Show. After he first went public, Sheen was asked to do more and now he is
doing more as he feels there is a chance to get more traction behind a new
investigation with a new President in the White House.

Sheen is directly appealing to Barack Obama to read his letter and to look
into the lies surrounding 9/11 for himself.

Regardless of whether or not President Obama agrees to meet with him, Sheen is
confident that his letter will serve as a catalyst from which questions
surrounding 9/11 and other false flag events will be brought to national
attention.

This is a call to action and a declaration of war on the alleged lies of 9/11
that have formed the foundation of the endless wars abroad and the police
state at home as the Republic falls. Sheen is demanding that truth activists
and those who simply care about the future of the country stand up beside him
and speak truth to power.

Sheen is now urging grass roots political organizations and individuals across
the country to go to press conferences and other public events and demand
answers about the truth behind 9/11. As much awareness as possible around the
issue of false flag terrorism needs to be generated in order to prevent
tragedies like 9/11 from happening again. Sheen emphasizes in his letter that
we cannot let 9/11 become ancient history, try and forget about it or just
move on, because if a nation forgets its history then it is doomed to repeat
it.

We cannot allow governments to continue to advance their political agendas by
exploiting forged pretexts, argues Sheen, and the fact that big budget hit
pieces against 9/11 truth are still being rolled out proves that the
establishment is upset that the population is waking up to false flag terror.

No matter what your views are on 9/11, Sheen is asking the thinking public to
look at how many members of the 9/11 Commission itself have questioned the
official story, along with the scores of other highly credible former and
current government officials, intelligence professionals, military officials,
scientists, structural engineers and architects, and legal scholars who have
all publicly denounced the fraud that continues to masquerade as the official
9/11 story.

For media requests on this subject email [email protected]

The Alex Jones Show broadcasts live from Austin, TX from 11am - 3pm Central.
Alex Jones' show and websites www.infowars.com and www.prisonplanet.com are a
focal point and a forum where many prominent figures from academia, the
political world and Hollywood have spoken out about what really happened on
September 11th.

More information:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president.html

*(PHOTO: www.Send2Press.com/mediaboom/09-0908-CSheen_72dpi.jpg)

*(Caption: Charlie Sheen. Credit: Alex Jones.)

This release was issued on behalf of the above organization by Send2Press(R),
a unit of Neotrope(R). http://www.Send2Press.com


SOURCE  The Alex Jones Show

Rob Dew or Mike Nelson, both of The Alex Jones Show, +1-512-448-4252,
[email protected]

Excuse me for a minute... (chuckle, chuckle, CHUCKLE!!!)... STROKE OF GENIUS... AND... HEE - HEE - HEE... STROKE OF GENIUS... (sigh)...

There...I feel much better now! ;D

--Oldyoti

"One of the main purposes for the control and power of the
Establishment media is to keep the masses deceived and
ignorant about their rights and oppressions of their rights."
~Charles Weisman
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 07:30:32 pm
even if the interview was genuine, obama wont take action from the interview cause if he does he will be assisnated by the elite like they did to JFK. Obama is just a puppet and he is scared of the elite above him.
 



talking point:

Hey, if Obama can meet a guy who got arrested for breaking into his own house and have a beer with him and the policeman:
WHY WON"T HE TALK TO CHARLIE SHEEN?

it's a simple question.

THEN CHARLIE wouldn't have to MAKE ONE UP and piss everybody off!
criminy  :P
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: stella on September 08, 2009, 07:31:38 pm
It's Working! ;D

The Alex Jones Show: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11 Cover-Up
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908
Tue Sep 8, 2009 7:36pm EDT

The Alex Jones Show: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11
Cover-Up
Actor demands investigation be reopened after majority of 9/11 Commission
members say government lied about official story.

AUSTIN, Texas, Sept. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- According to syndicated talk show host
Alex Jones, actor and television star Charlie Sheen has publicly requested a
meeting with President Barack Obama to urge him to reopen the official
investigation into 9/11; in light of the fact that the majority of the 9/11
Commission members have now publicly gone on record to express their
conviction that the government agreed to lie about the official story.

Sheen will appear live on The Alex Jones Show on Wednesday and Friday to
discuss the content of his "20 Minutes With The President" piece and how he
plans to move forward with this exciting new initiative. You can listen free
here or subscribe to prison planet.tv to watch live streaming video.

Sheen's request takes the form of a letter to the President in the context of
a fictional meeting between the two entitled "20 Minutes With The President,"
published exclusively on radio talk show host Alex Jones' Infowars.com and
Prison Planet.com websites. Clip:
http://www.infowars.com/media/20090908-CharlieSheenINT-Promises.mp3 .

The letter cites evidence, backed up by a substantial online bibliography,
that alleges to prove the official story behind 9/11 is a fraud and that this
conclusion was also reached by the majority of the 9/11 Commission members, a
fact that mandates President Obama to reopen the investigation into the
terrorist attacks.

Sheen expresses his hope that President Obama will follow through on his
promises of change, accountability and government transparency by using his
executive powers to re-examine 9/11, adding that he voted for Obama with the
understanding that he would follow a different course to the Bush
administration.

However, as Sheen highlights in his letter, the course of Obama's first year
in office clearly indicates that he will do nothing to reverse policies
crafted by the Bush regime, and in fact has sought to exceed outrages of the
previous administration in areas such as warrantless wiretapping, rendition,
detention without trial, and wars in the Middle East - all of which arrived as
a consequence of 9/11.

Sheen's letter is a public declaration demanding the truth behind 9/11 as
America approaches its eighth anniversary since the tragic events of that day.
His questions are shared by a majority of victims' family members, according
to Bill Doyle, the representative of the largest 9/11 families group.

The letter focuses around the fact that no less than 60 per cent of the 9/11
commissioners have now publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell
the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception
about their response to the attack.

Sheen also presents a plethora of other evidence to illustrate how the
official story is a fraud, including the revelations of whistle blowers like
FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, who recently broke a Federal gag order to expose
how Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were working for the U.S. government right up until
the day of 9/11.

The issues highlighted by Sheen do not represent idle speculation or
conspiracy fodder, they are documented facts that have been deliberately
ignored by other 9/11 programming that is now airing  as the anniversary
approaches, particularly last months' 9/11: Science and Conspiracy which was
aired by the National Geographic Channel and wasted little time in portraying
people who have doubts about the official 9/11 story as extremist cranks,
while failing to acknowledge that the majority of the members of the 9/11
Commission have publicly expressed similar concerns.

Charlie Sheen is once again using his prominent public platform in an attempt
to expand a national debate about the disturbing unanswered questions behind
9/11, having first spoken out on the issue in March 2006 on The Alex Jones
Show. After he first went public, Sheen was asked to do more and now he is
doing more as he feels there is a chance to get more traction behind a new
investigation with a new President in the White House.

Sheen is directly appealing to Barack Obama to read his letter and to look
into the lies surrounding 9/11 for himself.

Regardless of whether or not President Obama agrees to meet with him, Sheen is
confident that his letter will serve as a catalyst from which questions
surrounding 9/11 and other false flag events will be brought to national
attention.

This is a call to action and a declaration of war on the alleged lies of 9/11
that have formed the foundation of the endless wars abroad and the police
state at home as the Republic falls. Sheen is demanding that truth activists
and those who simply care about the future of the country stand up beside him
and speak truth to power.

Sheen is now urging grass roots political organizations and individuals across
the country to go to press conferences and other public events and demand
answers about the truth behind 9/11. As much awareness as possible around the
issue of false flag terrorism needs to be generated in order to prevent
tragedies like 9/11 from happening again. Sheen emphasizes in his letter that
we cannot let 9/11 become ancient history, try and forget about it or just
move on, because if a nation forgets its history then it is doomed to repeat
it.

We cannot allow governments to continue to advance their political agendas by
exploiting forged pretexts, argues Sheen, and the fact that big budget hit
pieces against 9/11 truth are still being rolled out proves that the
establishment is upset that the population is waking up to false flag terror.

No matter what your views are on 9/11, Sheen is asking the thinking public to
look at how many members of the 9/11 Commission itself have questioned the
official story, along with the scores of other highly credible former and
current government officials, intelligence professionals, military officials,
scientists, structural engineers and architects, and legal scholars who have
all publicly denounced the fraud that continues to masquerade as the official
9/11 story.

For media requests on this subject email [email protected]

The Alex Jones Show broadcasts live from Austin, TX from 11am - 3pm Central.
Alex Jones' show and websites www.infowars.com and www.prisonplanet.com are a
focal point and a forum where many prominent figures from academia, the
political world and Hollywood have spoken out about what really happened on
September 11th.

More information:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president.html

*(PHOTO: www.Send2Press.com/mediaboom/09-0908-CSheen_72dpi.jpg)

*(Caption: Charlie Sheen. Credit: Alex Jones.)

This release was issued on behalf of the above organization by Send2Press(R),
a unit of Neotrope(R). http://www.Send2Press.com


SOURCE  The Alex Jones Show

Rob Dew or Mike Nelson, both of The Alex Jones Show, +1-512-448-4252,
[email protected]

Yay!  ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 07:32:25 pm
Excuse me for a minute... (chuckle, chuckle, CHUCKLE!!!)... STROKE OF GENIUS... AND... HEE - HEE - HEE... STROKE OF GENIUS... (sigh)...

There...I feel much better now! ;D

--Oldyoti

"One of the main purposes for the control and power of the
Establishment media is to keep the masses deceived and
ignorant about their rights and oppressions of their rights."
~Charles Weisman


Yes indeed! ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: rio on September 08, 2009, 07:33:29 pm
It's Working! ;D

The Alex Jones Show: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11 Cover-Up
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908
Tue Sep 8, 2009 7:36pm EDT

The Alex Jones Show: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11
Cover-Up
Actor demands investigation be reopened after majority of 9/11 Commission
members say government lied about official story.

Hmm...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 07:33:53 pm
"fake interview with Obama? President Obama? Charlie Sheen? Where is this interview? What does he say? Shit, 9/11? I have questions about 9/11. WHERE IS THE INTERVIEW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET ME THE INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Yup and this again exposes the psychopaths and genocidal maniacs just as it always has in the past. Read a true story about this from one of this forum's members and how the New Zealand government was forced to issue an apology for being psychopathic, delusional, paranoid, control freaks...
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=55664.0


oooooh, scary....just like Jonathon Swift followers (thanks for pointing out this similarity ;))

Failing to attempt new ways to expose the truth utilizing god's gift of independent thinking dishonours humanity. You really think that people using constitutionally protected inalienable rights dishonours the families? Hmm, I find that rather odd. Do you have any evidence, proof, logic, rationality, sourced information to back up this outlandish accusation used by Bill Clinton?  "HOW DARE YOU!"

Really? Then they definitely will fail. People can smell hit pieces without any depth a mile away.

If you still worship the MSM, you may want to hang out at a different forum.

You mean like how they questioned the method for getting us into the genocides in the middle east?  The MSM exposes every day how they are G7 Banker controlled propaganda and mind control matrices. Their attempt to discredit these undeniable glaring unanswered questions will assist in waking millions more up to the matrix around them.


Sane, all I done was portray how the MSM goons will likely portray this. You know and everyone else here knows that is how it will go down on some of the MSM shows.

So why feel the need to try and pick it all apart?

I even asked you 1 simple question:

1. Will the MSM cover this in a good light and even mention the content?

Look at how you replied:
If you still worship the MSM, you may want to hang out at a different forum.

So instead of answering you attack me instead. How the hell does that help?

Do you think that everyone that feels this could of been done in a better way should go and hang out on a different forum?

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 07:34:01 pm
http://gawker.com/5354916/charlie-sheens-fantasy-911-truther-grilling-of-the-president

charlie-sheens-fantasy-911-truther-grilling-of-the-president

right yeah, great. working sure..
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: level1online on September 08, 2009, 07:34:40 pm
One question:
Why isn't this thread listed in this section?
Off Topic / Faux Controversies / Whining Threads / UFO's (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=240.0)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: adissenter2 on September 08, 2009, 07:37:17 pm
I firmly believe that if all these frustrated posters did this they would be alleviated:

1. Print up a bunch of your favorite informative articles or burn a stack of your favorite truth dvds.

2. Go out and hand them out to people and talk to them person to person.


Get out into the streets like Luke and all the the other activists rather than sitting behind a computer wasting your time and our time.  I am personally sick of trying to read a thread and get nothing but a bunch of gibberish that distracts from the goal.  I feel for the mods today.  If you are not prepared to  hit the streets and actually debate someone then do some hard core research in preparation then get out there.  We are attempting to make people aware.  We are trying to stop the next false flag that will eventually come and with that the after affects, this time a probable internet patriot and once that goes into effect there is no going back.  People have to see this coming otherwise they are going blindly follow the blind to destruction.

Go out and do some face to face,  you will surprised at how empowering it is.  Even if the majority flips you off or calls you a nut, there is a chance that you will run into one honest person that actually cares and may take what you are giving away for free seriously.  Again, most are clueless to what is going on and I am sure most of you if not all were like me in the past, that being clueless.  I received a VHS tape of 911/Road to Tyranny and that serious started me down the road of recovery.  Keep the ball rolling and do your part.  Quit the nitpicking and questioning the tactic behind the latest stunt and Go forth!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: psy0ps on September 08, 2009, 07:41:12 pm
The fact that millions of people crashed the websites should tell you something. AJ knows what he's doing. He got the hype built and now its out it needs to go viral.
Instead of the MSM plastering Brittney, Anna Nicole, Natalie Hallaway, Octo Mom, Michael Jackson bullshit, THIS needs to be plastered for a week or two on the "news".
All the fake pundits need to have CS on as  guest and he can explain to the dumbed down masses that 9/11 = inside job.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 07:46:25 pm
Sane, all I done was portray how the MSM goons will likely portray this. You know and everyone else here knows that is how it will go down on some of the MSM shows.

So why feel the need to try and pick it all apart?

I even asked you 1 simple question:

1. Will the MSM cover this in a good light and even mention the content?

Look at how you replied:
If you still worship the MSM, you may want to hang out at a different forum.

So instead of answering you attack me instead. How the hell does that help?

Do you think that everyone that feels this could of been done in a better way should go and hang out on a different forum?



Do you know how I found out about 9/11 truth?

Let me tell you...

I was watching Bill O'Reilly and he was talking about the 9/11 widows. He demonized them in a similar manner that you are prophetically describing the future attacks by the MSM on AJ and CS.  Well this was odd because he did not even have them on the show. So I got confused because my understanding is that the media refused to pursue having victims of 9/11 on the air out of respect for their privacy. My understanding was that the victims' families were still deep in morning or just did not want to use deaths of loved ones to garnish sympathy, fame, etc. My understanding is that the 9/11 victims DID NOT WANT TO TALK!

Bill O'Reilly told me about 9/11 victims who were begging to talk and he was demonizing them and refusing them airtime.

Well ya know what I did?

I found out for myself what these women wanted to say.

Even with Van Jones...

The American people are STARVING for information on 9/11 that does not comply with the completely insane and overly obvious government coverup of 9/11 truth. The American people are pursuing this information as if it was 100 church commissions multiplied by 100 pentagon papers.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 07:48:15 pm
I still respect you but disagree. IMO satire and humor do not disrespect the victims of the horrors caused by psychopathic elite scumbags. It is another way of exposing the truth to those still under the spell of trauma based mind control. It has been used for thousands of years to expose the pharaohs of their respective time periods.

But to those being knowledgeable in the mechanics of trauma based mind control, do you think that this would have been their first choice of tactic in breaking the first brick?
Im not disagreeing just to be contrary, Im very disturbed by what I feel is a low level stab at a beast.... a very impotent stab.

I very well may be thinking about this wrong.. but it would make sense for those trying to reach as many as possible( or certain specific segments of the population) to pay attention to how some of us perceive these things that are being done.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: El Scampio on September 08, 2009, 08:00:34 pm
Do you know how I found out about 9/11 truth?

Let me tell you...

I was watching Bill O'Reilly and he was talking about the 9/11 widows. He demonized them in a similar manner that you are prophetically describing the future attacks by the MSM on AJ and CS.  Well this was odd because he did not even have them on the show. So I got confused because my understanding is that the media refused to pursue having victims of 9/11 on the air out of respect for their privacy. My understanding was that the victims' families were still deep in morning or just did not want to use deaths of loved ones to garnish sympathy, fame, etc. My understanding is that the 9/11 victims DID NOT WANT TO TALK!

Bill O'Reilly told me about 9/11 victims who were begging to talk and he was demonizing them and refusing them airtime.

Well ya know what I did?

I found out for myself what these women wanted to say.

Even with Van Jones...

The American people are STARVING for information on 9/11 that does not comply with the completely insane and overly obvious government coverup of 9/11 truth. The American people are pursuing this information as if it was 100 church commissions multiplied by 100 pentagon papers.

Nice story and reassuring that people do see through the BS even if it is a small % unfortunately.

Anyway

I even asked you 1 simple question:

1. Will the MSM cover this in a good light and even mention the content?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 08:01:10 pm
Ron Paul site

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/106041

Quote
I am steaming right now. Alex Jones just hoodwinked all of us, again.

Nobody with any journalistic integrity would put a dislaimer at the bottom of an article saying it was all made up. I actually had hope for a few minutes there, now I am just angry.

Alex Jones is the Used Car Salesman of Liberty Merchandise
output

take a look at the title on ats

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread499423/pg1
Charlie Sheen "interviews" President Obama [Alex Jones HOAX!]

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For the first 90+ minutes of availability, the InfoWars.com website was presenting this article as an actual interview by Charlie Sheen with President Obama. Some time after the interview first appeared, the comments, "What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet," were added to the article on InfoWars.com.

You have been hoaxed by Alex Jones.

Here is the link to the originally posted interview, before the additional comment indicating the interview was fiction:
Original Charlie Sheen "Twenty Minutes With The President" Story - With No Disclaimer

Thanks to ATS member getreadyalready for capturing the unedited original page.

talking about the points are they? or are they talking about the hoax?

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No what Alex did-- was a Hoax. This deals with a very Serious Issue and its an issue where lots of family members are trying to be serious about. We don't need this sh*t from Alex.


Looks a lot like the Daily Paul, and ATS have their own share of "go along to get along" trolls... the don't upset the "mainstream media" applecart variety...

I'm sure the moderation staffs over on these boards will have made the proper adjustments by this time tomorrow afternoon... once the reality, and the sanity, of today's article finally sinks in.

JTCoyoté

"All government without the consent of the
governed is the very definition of slavery."
~Jonathan Swift
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 08:17:24 pm
we wouldn't be still talking about it.
you know that's true.
the forums wouldn't be ablaze with righteous anger right now...

short story:
The 911 perpetrators blew the lid off of civilized behavior and decency: killing their own people to take their rights away from them and wage endless war in their name.  I mean, really: and then the cover up and years of lies.

And you are pissed about this?

Why would you want the forums to be ablaze with righteous anger?  Do you think that's a positive thing?

The forums would be ablaze with everyone discussing how brilliant it was if the fake "interview" had been left out.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 08:23:44 pm
Why would you want the forums to be ablaze with righteous anger?  Do you think that's a positive thing?

The forums would be ablaze with everyone discussing how brilliant it was if the fake "interview" had been left out.


Absolutely. My grumpy ass would have been smiling as well.  ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 08:28:26 pm
Why would you want the forums to be ablaze with righteous anger?  Do you think that's a positive thing?

The forums would be ablaze with everyone discussing how brilliant it was if the fake "interview" had been left out.

Yes it is a positive thing...  the use of the word fake is beginning to irritate me though... I ask you again, did you read it?

Yeah... you would have really loved just another fact piece...  there would have been only two individuals discussing it though... and I can guarantee you wouldn't of been one of them.

JTCoyoté

"The highest level of prosperity occurs when
there is a free-market economy and
a minimum of government regulations."
~Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations"


Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Mr Grinch on September 08, 2009, 08:32:59 pm
This will blow minds all over the world!

The tactics are WORKING...
http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=charlie+sheen
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 08:34:49 pm
Nice story and reassuring that people do see through the BS even if it is a small % unfortunately.

Anyway

I even asked you 1 simple question:

1. Will the MSM cover this in a good light and even mention the content?

Oh, I apologize, let me rephrase my answer to your question...

Do you know how I found out about 9/11 truth?

Let me tell you...

I was watching Bill O'Reilly and he was talking about the 9/11 widows. He demonized them in a similar manner that you are prophetically describing the future attacks by the MSM on AJ and CS.  Well this was odd because he did not even have them on the show. So I got confused because my understanding is that the media refused to pursue having victims of 9/11 on the air out of respect for their privacy. My understanding was that the victims' families were still deep in morning or just did not want to use deaths of loved ones to garnish sympathy, fame, etc. My understanding is that the 9/11 victims DID NOT WANT TO TALK!

Bill O'Reilly told me about 9/11 victims who were begging to talk and he was demonizing them and refusing them airtime.

Well ya know what I did?

I found out for myself what these women wanted to say.

Even with Van Jones...

The American people are STARVING for information on 9/11 that does not comply with the completely insane and overly obvious government coverup of 9/11 truth. The American people are pursuing this information as if it was 100 church commissions multiplied by 100 pentagon papers.

I hope that helps.
Title: Latest Sheen hit piece
Post by: DCUBED on September 08, 2009, 08:34:54 pm
http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/09/08/charlie-sheens-911-conspiracy-interview-with-obama

Charlie Sheen's 9/11 Conspiracy Interview with Obama

Everyone knows that 9/11 was a Jew-run conspiracy covered up by the government, except Barack Obama. For some reason our president doesn't agree with this FACT, so enter hooker/coke/sitcom star Charlie Sheen, who has penned a (unintentionally hilarious) fictitious interview with our president where he sets the record straight on 9/11 once and for all. Feel free to read that last sentence again, since nothing about this makes any sense. Basically, Sheen's "interview" is like the "Penthouse Forum" of 9/11 fan fiction.

Here's just a little taste of an article that very well might make your head explode.

    (the President rises from his chair , I do the same).

    CS — Mr. President! One more second!

    (The President starts towards the door — I follow him quickly step for step).

    CS — Mr. President, I implore you based on the evidence you now possess, to use your Executive Power. Prove to us all Sir, that you do, in fact, care. Create a truly comprehensive and open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath. The families deserve the truth, the American people and the rest of the free world deserve the truth. Mr. President -

    (He pauses. We shake hands).

    CS — Make sure your on the right side of history.

    (The President breaks the handshake).

Woah. Mr. President, you just got served by the dude from Two and a Half Men.
Title: Re: Barack Obama, Charlie Sheen, Van Jones, and the 9/11 Truther Movement
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 08:37:31 pm
I'm getting really sick of lazy journalism.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2153283/barack_obama_charlie_sheen_van_jones.html

According to the Prison Planet blog, actor Charlie Sheen is demanding a meeting with President Barack Obama in order to demand that an investigation be opened over whether the Bush administration was directly involved in the 9/11 attacks.

This bit of news might be just another example of an overly egotistical actor thinking that his role as an aging lothario on Two and a Half Men buys him face time with the President of the United States. However, with the eighth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks coming up and the revelation that the now former White House Green Jobs Czar Van Jones was himself a 9/11 truther focuses attention on the new paranoid style of American politics. But this time the paranoids are not right wingers seeing commies under the bed. The paranoids are left wingers seeing Bush administration operatives under the rubble of 9/11.

Like many conspiracy theories, the 9/11 Truther movement stems from a combination of ignorance of science and history and a political agenda that has sent a group of people around the bend. People believe that the Bush administration engineered 9/11 because, as the slogan made famous by the TV show The X Files stated, they want to believe. They want to believe that George W. Bush was both nefarious enough and clever enough to slay three thousand human beings, make it look like a group of enraged Muslims did it, then use the event as an excuse to create an empire in the Middle East in order to grab all of the oil. Or it is something like that.

A now famous article in Popular Mechanics thoroughly debunked the 9/11 Truther conspiracy theory. However a casual attention to Occam's Razor should be sufficient to laugh off the idea that the US Government, which has done most things incompetently, pulled off the mother of all false flag operations.

But reason and logic are really not things that need enter into a conspiracy theory like 9/11 Trutherism. People who embrace 9/11 Trutherism do so because they find the current world situation intolerable. The United States is engaged in a long war with Islamofascist terrorism and will be for the foreseeable future. Even Barack Obama, not the most bellicose President when it comes to actual enemies of the United States, has resigned himself to continuing most of the policies of George W. Bush.

Having found the current situation intolerable, 9/11 Truthers reject the idea that it was inevitable, brought on by the tides of history and the mistakes of previous administrations, but rather some cabal did it to us. The sad part, though, as Jonah Goldberg points out, 9/11 Trutherism is becoming mainstream among the Left. Considering what else the Left believes, that should not be too surprising.

Sources: Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11 Cover-Up, Alex Jones, Prison Planet, September 8th, 2009

Van Jones a 9/11 'Truther', Mark R. Whittington, Associated Content, September 4th, 2009

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report, Popular Mechanics, March, 2005

How Sad, Jonah Goldberg, National Review Online, September 8th, 2009

Look at the comments, the truth is rising.
Title: Latest Sheen hit piece
Post by: ekimdrachir on September 08, 2009, 08:37:47 pm
http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/09/08/charlie-sheens-911-conspiracy-interview-with-obama

Charlie Sheen's 9/11 Conspiracy Interview with Obama

Everyone knows that 9/11 was a Jew-run conspiracy covered up by the government, except Barack Obama. For some reason our president doesn't agree with this FACT, so enter hooker/coke/sitcom star Charlie Sheen, who has penned a (unintentionally hilarious) fictitious interview with our president where he sets the record straight on 9/11 once and for all. Feel free to read that last sentence again, since nothing about this makes any sense. Basically, Sheen's "interview" is like the "Penthouse Forum" of 9/11 fan fiction.

Here's just a little taste of an article that very well might make your head explode.

    (the President rises from his chair , I do the same).

    CS — Mr. President! One more second!

    (The President starts towards the door — I follow him quickly step for step).

    CS — Mr. President, I implore you based on the evidence you now possess, to use your Executive Power. Prove to us all Sir, that you do, in fact, care. Create a truly comprehensive and open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath. The families deserve the truth, the American people and the rest of the free world deserve the truth. Mr. President -

    (He pauses. We shake hands).

    CS — Make sure your on the right side of history.

    (The President breaks the handshake).

Woah. Mr. President, you just got served by the dude from Two and a Half Men.

/smacks forehead
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Modzilla_Kicker on September 08, 2009, 08:38:09 pm
TO ALL THOSE WEEPING AND WHINING AND MOARNING AND GROANING:

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908

Reuters did NOT, I say did NOT twist and manipulate Sheen's artistic presentation of the 9-11 controversy, as some of the whiners told us they all would.. NOW, let us end the mourning over the supposed demise of TRUTHERS' credibility after Sheen's exploit.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: thnkfstpal on September 08, 2009, 08:38:44 pm
HEY DUMBSHITS, GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES.

IT'S WORKING ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908

YOU NAYSAYING SONS OF BITCHES better GTFO and STFU.

AS USUAL, ALEX IS GENIUS!!!!

YOU f**kIN DUMBSHITS

except you monkey, I still love you
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 08:39:09 pm
I think some people are forgetting just how freakin powerful the msm are, yes the internet has grown at an immense rate, but Televison im afriad is still the no1 stop for alot of people, you gotta face that, as long as you tell the truth, theres less they can use and you get stupid documentarys on national geographic.
Just as the tactics of truth are making headway agaisnt what is an incredibly powerfull brainwashing tool.

Whats going to happen if the MSM does pick this up, i dread to think.

This is the first one ive seen so far.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2153283/barack_obama_charlie_sheen_van_jones.html?cat=49



LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS WORKING BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BWAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: notagain on September 08, 2009, 08:40:40 pm
It's a press release written by Alex Jones Show.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: DCUBED on September 08, 2009, 08:41:58 pm
Oh, I apologize, let me rephrase my answer to your question...

Do you know how I found out about 9/11 truth?

Let me tell you...

I was watching Bill O'Reilly


That's funny, cause Bill O woke me up too.  Back in 06 a few days before the 5 year anniversary he had some guy on about controlled demolition and Bill would barely let him talk. So I went online to find out if what he was saying was true and found Loose Change. And went down the rabbit hole from there.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 08:42:30 pm
Yes it is a positive thing...  the use of the word fake is beginning to irritate me though... I ask you again, did you read it?

Yeah... you would have really loved just another fact piece...  there would have been only two individuals discussing it though... and I can guarantee you wouldn't of been one of them.

JTCoyoté

"The highest level of prosperity occurs when
there is a free-market economy and
a minimum of government regulations."
~Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations"




It is 100% absolutely a fake interview - no matter how you try to spin it.  Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass if you're "irritated" by the truth or not.  

Yes, I read it several times.  If I read it a few more, will the "interview" suddenly become real?

My issue is the use of the faux interview. If you look at all of the people making negative comments, that's also what they have an issue with.

Why are you so incapable of admitting even the possibility that a mistake was made in presenting the information in this fashion?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: thnkfstpal on September 08, 2009, 08:42:55 pm
LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS WORKING BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BWAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA

UMMM, how do you look at the comments on Reuters?
DOH!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: notagain on September 08, 2009, 08:44:34 pm
That Reuters piece is a paid press release, so don't get excited! Anyone can pay for a press release.  It's the same exact one on Market Watch. Even if you search Charlie Sheen on Reuters, there's not one mention of  Charlie Sheen 20 minutes w/ president.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 08:45:33 pm
LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS WORKING BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BWAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA

Uh, the comments are pretty negative.  As is the article.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chrisfromchi on September 08, 2009, 08:48:53 pm
its been 12 hours and you guys still have your panties in a bunch...sigh.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 08:49:14 pm
http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/09/08/charlie-sheens-911-conspiracy-interview-with-obama

Charlie Sheen's 9/11 Conspiracy Interview with Obama

Everyone knows that 9/11 was a Jew-run conspiracy covered up by the government, except Barack Obama. For some reason our president doesn't agree with this FACT, so enter hooker/coke/sitcom star Charlie Sheen, who has penned a (unintentionally hilarious) fictitious interview with our president where he sets the record straight on 9/11 once and for all. Feel free to read that last sentence again, since nothing about this makes any sense. Basically, Sheen's "interview" is like the "Penthouse Forum" of 9/11 fan fiction.

Here's just a little taste of an article that very well might make your head explode.

    (the President rises from his chair , I do the same).

    CS — Mr. President! One more second!

    (The President starts towards the door — I follow him quickly step for step).

    CS — Mr. President, I implore you based on the evidence you now possess, to use your Executive Power. Prove to us all Sir, that you do, in fact, care. Create a truly comprehensive and open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath. The families deserve the truth, the American people and the rest of the free world deserve the truth. Mr. President -

    (He pauses. We shake hands).

    CS — Make sure your on the right side of history.

    (The President breaks the handshake).

Woah. Mr. President, you just got served by the dude from Two and a Half Men.

LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 08:49:50 pm
Rivero has mentioned it:


FLASHBACK - 9/11 - The "Pod People" And The Plane That Crashed Into the Pentagon


Relinked in light of the ersatz Charlie Sheen interview with Obama, in which the "no plane" theory gets yet another airing.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 08:50:41 pm
Yes it is a positive thing...  the use of the word fake is beginning to irritate me though... I ask you again, did you read it?

Yeah... you would have really loved just another fact piece...  there would have been only two individuals discussing it though... and I can guarantee you wouldn't of been one of them.

JTCoyoté

"The highest level of prosperity occurs when
there is a free-market economy and
a minimum of government regulations."
~Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations"





Not speaking for anyone else.. but as for myself I agree that another "fact piece" wouldnt have brought much convo obviously. I simply do not like how this was done. Just my view I suppose... or perhaps I do not understand what Mr Jones is trying to accomplish. Id have been able in good faith support Mr Sheen petitioning PBO to discuss 9/11 with him openly as in an interview.Use money bomb money to purchase a spot with Mr Sheen demanding an audience with PBO on prime time. Something just as provocative, but not using what could even remotely come back to do any damage to the truth movement in general.  I cant seem to wrap my head around using such tactics... and exactly who Mr Jones was trying to reach by using these tactics.


JT ... I have always valued your ideas and opinions. I have copied and pasted and pointed others to your own words more times than I can count. Please really understand what Im saying here : In the circle of people who my family and I are familiar with .. this tactic was a complete disaster. There MUST be some follow up, some completion of reaching out to certain segments of the population that are completely turned away by this particular thing that was done. Not a retraction, that would admit deception. But something.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 08:52:41 pm
Uh, the comments are pretty negative.  As is the article.



journalism 101
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:52 PM
Thomas
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Great to see that 95% of all readers here firmly disagree with this third rate journalist; the public knows that 9/11 was an "inside job" designed to "shock and awe" the American people into Add a Comment
supporting the invasion of Iraq,Afghanistan, Central Asia and soon Iran. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:52 PM
Van Jones is a racist kook
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Did Van Jones sign the 9-11 truther petition? Yes. Did Van Jones attack white people? Yes. Did Van Jones hold rallies for a cop killer? Yes. So for those of you claiming it was 'vile smear' this Add a Comment
came from his own words and actions. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:35 PM
Van Jones is a racist kook
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35 percent of people on the Left believe that 9-11 was an inside job. That either Bush knew ahead of time or that we were behind the attack ourselves. That is insane. Insane as the racist Van Jones. Van Jones also is on record of attacking law enforcement and police. So who put Van Jones in a Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:43 PM
Richard Cranium
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No, This is not completely biased garbage. Whether you believe that 911 was allowed by the government, carried out by terrorists inspired by Osama Bin Laden who in turn was paid by the CIA to do so, or the official government story, one thing remains true. There are a LOT of people who believe each of one of three of these stories. Not one group is a minority and to write garbage like the above is to marginalize yourself to Bill O'Reilly standard of commentary. This guy should do Add a Comment
something REAL. Like journalism. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:06 PM
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Osama bin Laden's father was a building contractor....Osama grew up around that and he somehow plotted to bring the bldgs down. To me it does look like part of the cause was a Add a Comment
controlled demolition but who knows. Bush was too busy vacationing to plan the attacks! Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:56 PM
Richie
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:51 PM
The 1st Casualty of War
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Research. You need to do research before you can write an article Mark. Your scribble is pathetically inaccurate, hell, I could write a better hit piece. Trouble is, I have a conscience as well Add a Comment
as a brain. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:37 PM
nader paul kucinich gravel
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Truther or liar? Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich Add a Comment
McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 6:09:00 PM
Dan
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What a kind gentle man you are Mr. Whittington. I appreciate your objective journalistic integrity. I appreciate how you must feel to be one of the boys, to be like everyone else, to be ordinary and Add a Comment
dull. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 6:09:27 PM

Steve
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 6:09:52 PM
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 6:09:10 PM
some guy from 15.000 miles away
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:46 PM
some guy from 15.000 miles away
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:50 PM
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When did Prison Planet become a blog? Seriously, Popular Mechanics is yellow journalism. It's a fraud; a shill; a stinking pile of BS. Anyone who read the PM conspiracy can see that from the get Add a Comment
go. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:10 PM
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:18 PM
Guest
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:50 PM
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:29 PM
dc
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Once you said "Islamofascist" I knew you were Bush leftovers. Answer these then... CS '" Number 2; FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, was dismissed and gagged by the D.O.J. after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001. In July of '˜09, Mrs. Edmonds broke the Federal gag order and went public to reveal that Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were all working for and with the C.I.A. up until the day of 9/11. CS '" Number 3; The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. "I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:12 PM
Another GMT guest...
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:24 PM

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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:23 PM
GiveItARestWhittington
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This type of casual dismissal of truthers as crazy kooks doesn't work anymore Whittington. Anybody who has seen the collapse of WTC7 and followed the facts down into the rabbit hole that is 9/11 knows that 9/11 was a false flag attack. You're going to have to do a lot harder than the usual character assassination and ad hominem attacks. Popular Mechanics was a joke and never debunked anything. Get on the right side of history, Whittington. Fulfill your obligation as a journalist and hold yourself to a higher standard. Discuss the points that Sheen raises rather than his Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:33 PM
You're a retard...
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:13 PM
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In the Catholic abuse problem all of polite mainstream society stuck their heads in the sand for about a thousand years out of total cowardice while all the while impugning the character of the victims. And yet the truth was SOOOO obvious and yet no one had the guts to step up. This hit piece on Sheen is totally reminiscent of the smug dismissive gutlessness of the minions who protected the church pervs by marginalizing those who would speak the obvious truth. And the perverts who would be sent to "investigate" the perverts would invariably site Occam's Razor to "prove" the victims were little liars compared to the appreciable holiness and respectability of the priests. Add a Comment
Pathetic how whole societies can be cowed. Same here. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:41 PM
Greenwich Mean Time
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And these people aren't lunatics on the fringes of society; they are politicians, senior military personnel, university professors, investigative journalists, engineers, pilots - and many, many more. It's been said many times but it far more patriotic to ask the questions than to blindingly Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:56 PM
Greenwich Mean Time
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gain from asking these questions is dumbfoundingly ignorant. And Popular Mechanics - the 'now famous' piece because it really is the only piece that 'debunks' from a scientific perspective. Compared to the books, articles, journals - masses of information - dedebunking on the other side. And it's worth bearing in mind that the article was written by Benjamin Chertoff, the cousin of Michael Chertoff, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security at the time. And it is owned by the Hearst Group of which personal friends of the previous presidential administration are on the board. When I think about what their motive might be for writing such an article - I don't have any difficulty in finding it. Compare this with the motives of the people who have jeopardised their careers and been labelled as unpatriotic lunatics for being brave enough to ask the questions that need to be asked, and I know which one sits more easily. And these people aren't lunatics on the Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:11 PM
Greenwich Mean Time
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I've previously worked for a political party in the heart of government and understand how the public attribute politicians and the political process with more credit than it deserves when it comes to long-term, overreaching strategy. People would be surprised at how much of the process, like in many organisations, is really just reactionary, short-term firefighting. Many conspiracy theorists become laughable in the face of this. But this article - written in 2009 (and I had to double check) - is drenched in ignorance. It wreaks of someone having watched 'Loose Change' in 2005, though it was ridiculous and still places anybody with legitimate questions that have yet still to be answered, into one large group of unhinged, paranoid conspiracy theorists. To be unable to differentiate between people who believe CNN faked footage that we saw on TV - crazy by anyone's standards - with people who are intelligent, articulate and have Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:04 PM
Someone with half a brain rather than a simpleton
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Mark - you don't deserve the name "Mark". That was one pathetic piece of uninformed, ignorant, unthoughtful, unquestioning garbage. The detail and facts of the Sheen "letter" you have ignored but then what do we expect from scum like you my friend. Too busy doing your masters' bidding Add a Comment
ensuring your career doesn't bomb! You're a pathetic excuse for a human being. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:42 PM
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Suppressed: Will do captain. And while you're at it, look up the word "facetious". Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:27 PM
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What a rubbish piece of journalism %282%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Like many conspiracy theories%2C the 9%2F11 Truther movement stems from a combination of ignorance of science and history and a political agenda that%22%0D%0A%0D%0ADid you actually read the CharlieAdd a Comment
%27s piece %3F%3F%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AThat is backed by science%21 Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:05 PM
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BadNews
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Why do you not try to debunk any of the facts that Sheen said? You just insult with nothing to back it Add a Comment
up unlike Sheen. It's a weird world when I learn more from an actor than the news. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:00 PM
SuppressedReality
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"It's so much funner to watch football and ignore thems." It's dumbed down, brainwashed morons like you who make me sick You don't deserve to live in a free country. The most patriotic thing you can do is question and challenge your government. Do your own research and look at the facts presented. Then start researching the Federal Reserve, a private bank by the way. Quoting from memory but think goes something like this..When governments fear their people there is freedom. Add a Comment
When people fear their government there is tyranny. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:00 PM
Hahaha
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Mark, all of your comments are negative, you can't fool us anymore, we know you're a coward!!! Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:42 PM
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Intellectually dishonest drivel. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:11 PM
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The Popular Mechanics article was built on straw men and has been debunked. As an engineer and commercial rated pilot who has done the research, I will tell you that 9/11 was and inside job. I Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:30 PM
LOL
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The writer of this article hopes you don't read "20 minutes with the President". He did not debunk ANY POINTS CHARLIE SHEEN MADE IN THE LETTER, instead he attacked his character and tries to make people who question the official story look like nutjobs. Please read the letter, ask the writer why he did not even debunk one statement such as 6 out of 10 9/11 commission members Add a Comment
question the official story???????? Don't be a sucker Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:30 PM
WAKE UP
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You have convinced me Emerson. Hey, do me a favor, Visit www.ae911truth.com They have a petition signed by 800 different scientists and engineers who think the 9/11 story was Bull. Google WTC7 and watch it with your eyes open. WTC7 was one of the most well built skyscraper in the US. Yet it falls like a controlled demolition in a nice little pile. You can not have the same cause for building collapse for all 3 buildings on that day. WTC7 did not get hit by a plane. FIRE COULD NOT Add a Comment
MAKE THE BUILDING FALL THE AY IT DID> DONT BE DUMB. GOOGLE WTC7 AND WAKE UP Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:59 PM
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%22The magazine pushing the government%27s 9%2F11 propaganda%2C Popular Mechanics %28PM%29%2C is published by the Hearst family. Its March cover story%2C Debunking 9%2F11 Lies%2C has been exposed by credible researchers to contain numerous distortions and flawed conclusions. American Free Press revealed that Benjamin Chertoff%2C the 25-year-old senior researcher who authored the 9%2F11 article%2C is related to Michael Chertoff%2C the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security %28DHS%29. The PM article illustrates how a propaganda method%2C used by dictatorships%2C is now being employed by the U.S. Add a Comment
government%3A controlling mainstream media outlets to promote its version of 9%2F11.%22 Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:12 PM
Whittington=Hack
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Whittington it's pretty clear that you haven't researched both sides of the argument. Citing 'Popular Mechanics', a publication owned by Hearst, as an impartial authority on 9/11 is more foolish than relying on the 9/11 Commission's report of the facts. Why not check out Sheen's sources and see how the pieces add up to you. I think you will find his argument is more reasonable than the official Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:54 PM
Emerson
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What a rubbish piece of journalism (2). "Like many conspiracy theories, the 9/11 Truther movement stems from a combination of ignorance of science and history and a political agenda that" Did you Add a Comment
actually read the Charlie's piece ??? That is backed by science! Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:53 PM

WAKE UP
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WOW, that was objectional journalism. If you would have taken the time to, I dont know, actually look at the information that Mr. Sheen in presenting for at leat 30 minutes, you would have discovered that he is actually bringing FACTs to the table. Not conspiracy. What does Charlie Sheen have to gain from doing this? Do you think he stays up at night wanting to be dragged through the mud by the ignorant media? He has millions and millions of dollars. Not too much to gain here. Do your damn job and research your topic a little before you write a silly hit peice that makes you looks very uneduated. Send this atricle to the college that you graduated from, I think Add a Comment
you may be eiligle for a full 100% tuition refund. RESEARCH BEFORE YOU ACT LIKE A WRITER!!! Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:40 PM
Drew
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The WTC buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. Research the evidence. Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light. -George Washington http://Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:42 PM
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How does it feel to be an absolute piece of TRASH?! You have no FACTUAL evidence to put forth, so you make unfounded accusations of ignorance. YOU, my friend, are the ignorant one. And you will burn in the deepest circle of Hell with everyone else who apathetically stood idly by and TALKED NONSENSE to further your piddly selfish agendas while the people who control you SCREW US ALL OVER. You will regret your insolence in the end as the big dick known as the New Add a Comment
World Order continuously f**kS YOU UP YOUR ASS. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:09 PM
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:57 PM
Ben in Texas
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Your article completely avoids any of the topics in Charlie's letter. You are taking the same road every other member of the controlled mainstream media has tried to take. These issues are going nowhere. Writing sneering op-ed responses to these inquiries exposes you as lazy and not worth attention. People died and the majority of the victims' families and 6 of the 10 911 commissioners stated that they had major issues with the 9-11 report. Put your journalism on that. We're gaining momentum and your BS dismissals won't slow this. Be on the right side of history. Check your Add a Comment
traffic too. You'll get more hits covering the truth and writing smears. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:38 PM
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That was really an ill informed and irresponsible piece. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:28 PM
Dale Gribble
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I feel sorry for you if you don't know by now that there are serious problems with the official story of Add a Comment
9/11. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:07 PM
Inquisition
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Sorry your on the wrong side of history when 6 out of 10 9/11 commission members disagree with Add a Comment
you maybe you should be asking yourself some serious questions. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:17 PM
dm
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Why do you believe 9/11 truth is associated with the left? Please back that statement up because it's not true. Alex Jones who you mentioned (among many other truthers) for example is a far right-Add a Comment
winger. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:56 PM
Grand Poo
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You're right! Charlie needs to stick to being a simple egotistical actor. "Overly egotistical" is super fringe-like. The real conspiracy is in how this aging lothario continues to get so much work and is one of the highest paid actors. By the way, does Popular Mechanics still sell those cool homemade hovercraft kits? That's so cool that they did all that hard work to uncover the truth so all those experts that don't work for their publication can relax and read other articles on car planes and such. I'm so glad I read your article. I was beginning to think I might listen to the people crying out Add a Comment
for answers. It's so much funner to watch football and ignore thems. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:16 PM
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In his request for an interview%2C Sheen points out that 6 of 10 commissioners publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9%2F11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack%2C and you like to label this a demand Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:12 PM
DontBeScared
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Mark Whittington is scared. Move aside brother, the American people are waking up and will protect you, even thought you were a coward. And you are right, some cabal did not do this to us, rather it Add a Comment
WAS the tides of history and the mistakes of previous and current treasonous administrations. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:54 PM
Jon
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Ignorance of history and science? For one, Cover-ups and conspiracies have happened repeatedly throughout history and second, the rubble (evidence) was removed and tampered with way earlier Add a Comment
than science needed for it to be investigated properly. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:13 PM
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hahaha - popular mechanics - how can you quote that garbage?? Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:09 PM
dave
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I second that motion. irresponsible journalism to not investigate the allegations fully. shame on you Add a Comment
Mark. W. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:17 PM
benf
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smug shabbily written dreck. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:52 PM
Nick
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Perhaps you should speak with Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth: http://www.ae911truth.org/ Add a Comment
Who am I more apt to believe: unreliable government or actual architects/engineers? Add a Comment
Posted on 09/08/2009 at 2:09:17 PM
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris jones on September 08, 2009, 08:54:10 pm
Excuse me for a minute... (chuckle, chuckle, CHUCKLE!!!)... STROKE OF GENIUS... AND... HEE - HEE - HEE... STROKE OF GENIUS... (sigh)...

There...I feel much better now! ;D

--Oldyoti

"One of the main purposes for the control and power of the
Establishment media is to keep the masses deceived and
ignorant about their rights and oppressions of their rights."
~Charles Weisman


JT.

Agreed.

Here is a man dedicated to driven, driven by conscience, and overwhelming concern for the course this regime and others have taken.

Our nations salvation is on the line. CS did not step over the line , he stepped on it.

This will cause some people to become aggravated, as if this man and his backers are throwing a curve ball, are they?? NO, they called it for what it is, so what if its labeled a letter at the ending, a hopefull start to open eyes is my take.

This will casue people to look, some will chastize this, however I beleive many will cheer it. The odds are with us.

The mighty and righteous regime and their flat out lies, this was not comparible and we know it, Whats the flack all about here.

Human nature, is that it, everyone thought this actually took place and disregrded the content. PLEASE.

I have a feeling the majority who read this wish it had transpired?????

This man has guts and honour, he gives a twit about the people and this nation isn't that obvious, or have we raised our noses so high they are scrapping our forehead.

This pizzed of people, good, I hope those same ones read what is said, how many would have seen this content if not written in this way.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 08:54:49 pm

Not speaking for anyone else.. but as for myself I agree that another "fact piece" wouldnt have brought much convo obviously. I simply do not like how this was done. Just my view I suppose... or perhaps I do not understand what Mr Jones is trying to accomplish. Id have been able in good faith support Mr Sheen petitioning PBO to discuss 9/11 with him openly as in an interview.Use money bomb money to purchase a spot with Mr Sheen demanding an audience with PBO on prime time. Something just as provocative, but not using what could even remotely come back to do any damage to the truth movement in general.  I cant seem to wrap my head around using such tactics... and exactly who Mr Jones was trying to reach by using these tactics.


JT ... I have always valued your ideas and opinions. I have copied and pasted and pointed others to your own words more times than I can count. Please really understand what Im saying here : In the circle of people who my family and I are familiar with .. this tactic was a complete disaster. There MUST be some follow up, some completion of reaching out to certain segments of the population that are completely turned away by this particular thing that was done. Not a retraction, that would admit deception. But something.

I agree, something should be done.

Can anyone research the history of satire, humor, and irony to expose the crimes of the elites?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 08:55:28 pm
journalism 101
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when all else fails, namecall... Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:52 PM
Thomas
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Great to see that 95% of all readers here firmly disagree with this third rate journalist; the public knows that 9/11 was an "inside job" designed to "shock and awe" the American people into Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:52 PM
Van Jones is a racist kook
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Did Van Jones sign the 9-11 truther petition? Yes. Did Van Jones attack white people? Yes. Did Van Jones hold rallies for a cop killer? Yes. So for those of you claiming it was 'vile smear' this Add a Comment
came from his own words and actions. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:35 PM
Van Jones is a racist kook
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35 percent of people on the Left believe that 9-11 was an inside job. That either Bush knew ahead of time or that we were behind the attack ourselves. That is insane. Insane as the racist Van Jones. Van Jones also is on record of attacking law enforcement and police. So who put Van Jones in a Add a Comment
position of a job with a 30 billions budget? Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:43 PM
Richard Cranium
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No, This is not completely biased garbage. Whether you believe that 911 was allowed by the government, carried out by terrorists inspired by Osama Bin Laden who in turn was paid by the CIA to do so, or the official government story, one thing remains true. There are a LOT of people who believe each of one of three of these stories. Not one group is a minority and to write garbage like the above is to marginalize yourself to Bill O'Reilly standard of commentary. This guy should do Add a Comment
something REAL. Like journalism. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:06 PM
Julia Bodeeb
Osama bin Laden's father was a building contractor....Osama grew up around that and he somehow plotted to bring the bldgs down. To me it does look like part of the cause was a Add a Comment
controlled demolition but who knows. Bush was too busy vacationing to plan the attacks! Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:56 PM
Richie
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Written by Mark Whittington Mark R. Whittington is a fictional writer residing in Houston, Texas. I Add a Comment
fixed it for you. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:51 PM
The 1st Casualty of War
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Research. You need to do research before you can write an article Mark. Your scribble is pathetically inaccurate, hell, I could write a better hit piece. Trouble is, I have a conscience as well Add a Comment
as a brain. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 7:09:37 PM
nader paul kucinich gravel
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Truther or liar? Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich Add a Comment
McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 6:09:00 PM
Dan
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What a kind gentle man you are Mr. Whittington. I appreciate your objective journalistic integrity. I appreciate how you must feel to be one of the boys, to be like everyone else, to be ordinary and Add a Comment
dull. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 6:09:27 PM

Steve
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This guy tries to say that 9/11 was not an inside job, however he fails at debunking anything with facts. because he is just making up horseshit. Someone is paying him under the table, or he just Add a Comment
believes everything he sees in print. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 6:09:52 PM
Chris
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HAHA!!! What a joke Mr. Whittington! I think it is you who can't accept truth. Where is your reason and logic you nut case? Just because Popular Mechanics says so you believe it? Actually take Add a Comment
some time, look at the facts, then apologize for being so rude. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 6:09:10 PM
some guy from 15.000 miles away
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smile. All I can say is godspeed to the American people. Your efforts will overcome tyranny. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:46 PM
some guy from 15.000 miles away
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The writer of this article is a disgrace to his profession. Like most of the so called journalists, anchormen we have today. They are basically slaves to their editors and bosses and have no self opinions. They are no different from the media whores that attacked Jim Garrison with all kind of Add a Comment
stuff. They are raping the future of their children. It's pathetic. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:50 PM
Confused
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When did Prison Planet become a blog? Seriously, Popular Mechanics is yellow journalism. It's a fraud; a shill; a stinking pile of BS. Anyone who read the PM conspiracy can see that from the get Add a Comment
go. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:10 PM
Crazy Cool
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Sorry, I'm the dumb ass. Heh! Your a good writer, I am just not a good reader. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:18 PM
Guest
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The author of this article is basically calling anyone who thinks or questions 9/11 being an inside job an idiot. I guess I'm an idiot because its obvious to me that a bunch of men in a cave did not commit this crime. The author is obviously biased. What would you think about an independant Add a Comment
investigation into 9/11. I do not see any harm in that. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:50 PM
Crazy Cool
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Umm..It's Alex Jones, not Van Jones. Check your facts Mr. Professional Journalist. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 5:09:29 PM
dc
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Once you said "Islamofascist" I knew you were Bush leftovers. Answer these then... CS '" Number 2; FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, was dismissed and gagged by the D.O.J. after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001. In July of '˜09, Mrs. Edmonds broke the Federal gag order and went public to reveal that Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were all working for and with the C.I.A. up until the day of 9/11. CS '" Number 3; The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. "I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could Add a Comment
actually get out of the building, so w Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:12 PM
Another GMT guest...
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Tell me Mr. Whittington, did you actually have to take any formal education to write the inane, unfounded claptrap garbage you just have? And may I ask if you changed your name by deed poll to "Mark" to remove yourself from being confused with an adventurous fictional character with a Add a Comment
name that would suit you more? Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:24 PM

PersianPaladin
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:23 PM
GiveItARestWhittington
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This type of casual dismissal of truthers as crazy kooks doesn't work anymore Whittington. Anybody who has seen the collapse of WTC7 and followed the facts down into the rabbit hole that is 9/11 knows that 9/11 was a false flag attack. You're going to have to do a lot harder than the usual character assassination and ad hominem attacks. Popular Mechanics was a joke and never debunked anything. Get on the right side of history, Whittington. Fulfill your obligation as a journalist and hold yourself to a higher standard. Discuss the points that Sheen raises rather than his Add a Comment
character. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:33 PM
You're a retard...
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Everyone knows 9/11 is a government cover-up. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:13 PM
benf
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In the Catholic abuse problem all of polite mainstream society stuck their heads in the sand for about a thousand years out of total cowardice while all the while impugning the character of the victims. And yet the truth was SOOOO obvious and yet no one had the guts to step up. This hit piece on Sheen is totally reminiscent of the smug dismissive gutlessness of the minions who protected the church pervs by marginalizing those who would speak the obvious truth. And the perverts who would be sent to "investigate" the perverts would invariably site Occam's Razor to "prove" the victims were little liars compared to the appreciable holiness and respectability of the priests. Add a Comment
Pathetic how whole societies can be cowed. Same here. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:41 PM
Greenwich Mean Time
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And these people aren't lunatics on the fringes of society; they are politicians, senior military personnel, university professors, investigative journalists, engineers, pilots - and many, many more. It's been said many times but it far more patriotic to ask the questions than to blindingly Add a Comment
accept the unacceptable. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:56 PM
Greenwich Mean Time
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gain from asking these questions is dumbfoundingly ignorant. And Popular Mechanics - the 'now famous' piece because it really is the only piece that 'debunks' from a scientific perspective. Compared to the books, articles, journals - masses of information - dedebunking on the other side. And it's worth bearing in mind that the article was written by Benjamin Chertoff, the cousin of Michael Chertoff, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security at the time. And it is owned by the Hearst Group of which personal friends of the previous presidential administration are on the board. When I think about what their motive might be for writing such an article - I don't have any difficulty in finding it. Compare this with the motives of the people who have jeopardised their careers and been labelled as unpatriotic lunatics for being brave enough to ask the questions that need to be asked, and I know which one sits more easily. And these people aren't lunatics on the Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:11 PM
Greenwich Mean Time
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I've previously worked for a political party in the heart of government and understand how the public attribute politicians and the political process with more credit than it deserves when it comes to long-term, overreaching strategy. People would be surprised at how much of the process, like in many organisations, is really just reactionary, short-term firefighting. Many conspiracy theorists become laughable in the face of this. But this article - written in 2009 (and I had to double check) - is drenched in ignorance. It wreaks of someone having watched 'Loose Change' in 2005, though it was ridiculous and still places anybody with legitimate questions that have yet still to be answered, into one large group of unhinged, paranoid conspiracy theorists. To be unable to differentiate between people who believe CNN faked footage that we saw on TV - crazy by anyone's standards - with people who are intelligent, articulate and have Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:04 PM
Someone with half a brain rather than a simpleton
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Mark - you don't deserve the name "Mark". That was one pathetic piece of uninformed, ignorant, unthoughtful, unquestioning garbage. The detail and facts of the Sheen "letter" you have ignored but then what do we expect from scum like you my friend. Too busy doing your masters' bidding Add a Comment
ensuring your career doesn't bomb! You're a pathetic excuse for a human being. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:42 PM
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Suppressed: Will do captain. And while you're at it, look up the word "facetious". Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:27 PM
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What a rubbish piece of journalism %282%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Like many conspiracy theories%2C the 9%2F11 Truther movement stems from a combination of ignorance of science and history and a political agenda that%22%0D%0A%0D%0ADid you actually read the CharlieAdd a Comment
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Why do you not try to debunk any of the facts that Sheen said? You just insult with nothing to back it Add a Comment
up unlike Sheen. It's a weird world when I learn more from an actor than the news. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:00 PM
SuppressedReality
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"It's so much funner to watch football and ignore thems." It's dumbed down, brainwashed morons like you who make me sick You don't deserve to live in a free country. The most patriotic thing you can do is question and challenge your government. Do your own research and look at the facts presented. Then start researching the Federal Reserve, a private bank by the way. Quoting from memory but think goes something like this..When governments fear their people there is freedom. Add a Comment
When people fear their government there is tyranny. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:00 PM
Hahaha
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Mark, all of your comments are negative, you can't fool us anymore, we know you're a coward!!! Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:42 PM
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Intellectually dishonest drivel. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:11 PM
orion700
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The Popular Mechanics article was built on straw men and has been debunked. As an engineer and commercial rated pilot who has done the research, I will tell you that 9/11 was and inside job. I Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:30 PM
LOL
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The writer of this article hopes you don't read "20 minutes with the President". He did not debunk ANY POINTS CHARLIE SHEEN MADE IN THE LETTER, instead he attacked his character and tries to make people who question the official story look like nutjobs. Please read the letter, ask the writer why he did not even debunk one statement such as 6 out of 10 9/11 commission members Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:30 PM
WAKE UP
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You have convinced me Emerson. Hey, do me a favor, Visit www.ae911truth.com They have a petition signed by 800 different scientists and engineers who think the 9/11 story was Bull. Google WTC7 and watch it with your eyes open. WTC7 was one of the most well built skyscraper in the US. Yet it falls like a controlled demolition in a nice little pile. You can not have the same cause for building collapse for all 3 buildings on that day. WTC7 did not get hit by a plane. FIRE COULD NOT Add a Comment
MAKE THE BUILDING FALL THE AY IT DID> DONT BE DUMB. GOOGLE WTC7 AND WAKE UP Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:59 PM
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%22The magazine pushing the government%27s 9%2F11 propaganda%2C Popular Mechanics %28PM%29%2C is published by the Hearst family. Its March cover story%2C Debunking 9%2F11 Lies%2C has been exposed by credible researchers to contain numerous distortions and flawed conclusions. American Free Press revealed that Benjamin Chertoff%2C the 25-year-old senior researcher who authored the 9%2F11 article%2C is related to Michael Chertoff%2C the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security %28DHS%29. The PM article illustrates how a propaganda method%2C used by dictatorships%2C is now being employed by the U.S. Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 4:09:12 PM
Whittington=Hack
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Whittington it's pretty clear that you haven't researched both sides of the argument. Citing 'Popular Mechanics', a publication owned by Hearst, as an impartial authority on 9/11 is more foolish than relying on the 9/11 Commission's report of the facts. Why not check out Sheen's sources and see how the pieces add up to you. I think you will find his argument is more reasonable than the official Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:54 PM
Emerson
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What a rubbish piece of journalism (2). "Like many conspiracy theories, the 9/11 Truther movement stems from a combination of ignorance of science and history and a political agenda that" Did you Add a Comment
actually read the Charlie's piece ??? That is backed by science! Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:53 PM

WAKE UP
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WOW, that was objectional journalism. If you would have taken the time to, I dont know, actually look at the information that Mr. Sheen in presenting for at leat 30 minutes, you would have discovered that he is actually bringing FACTs to the table. Not conspiracy. What does Charlie Sheen have to gain from doing this? Do you think he stays up at night wanting to be dragged through the mud by the ignorant media? He has millions and millions of dollars. Not too much to gain here. Do your damn job and research your topic a little before you write a silly hit peice that makes you looks very uneduated. Send this atricle to the college that you graduated from, I think Add a Comment
you may be eiligle for a full 100% tuition refund. RESEARCH BEFORE YOU ACT LIKE A WRITER!!! Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:40 PM
Drew
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The WTC buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. Research the evidence. Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light. -George Washington http://Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:42 PM
Ben
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How does it feel to be an absolute piece of TRASH?! You have no FACTUAL evidence to put forth, so you make unfounded accusations of ignorance. YOU, my friend, are the ignorant one. And you will burn in the deepest circle of Hell with everyone else who apathetically stood idly by and TALKED NONSENSE to further your piddly selfish agendas while the people who control you SCREW US ALL OVER. You will regret your insolence in the end as the big dick known as the New Add a Comment
World Order continuously f**kS YOU UP YOUR ASS. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:09 PM
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:57 PM
Ben in Texas
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Your article completely avoids any of the topics in Charlie's letter. You are taking the same road every other member of the controlled mainstream media has tried to take. These issues are going nowhere. Writing sneering op-ed responses to these inquiries exposes you as lazy and not worth attention. People died and the majority of the victims' families and 6 of the 10 911 commissioners stated that they had major issues with the 9-11 report. Put your journalism on that. We're gaining momentum and your BS dismissals won't slow this. Be on the right side of history. Check your Add a Comment
traffic too. You'll get more hits covering the truth and writing smears. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:38 PM
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That was really an ill informed and irresponsible piece. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:28 PM
Dale Gribble
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I feel sorry for you if you don't know by now that there are serious problems with the official story of Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:07 PM
Inquisition
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Sorry your on the wrong side of history when 6 out of 10 9/11 commission members disagree with Add a Comment
you maybe you should be asking yourself some serious questions. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:17 PM
dm
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Why do you believe 9/11 truth is associated with the left? Please back that statement up because it's not true. Alex Jones who you mentioned (among many other truthers) for example is a far right-Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:56 PM
Grand Poo
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You're right! Charlie needs to stick to being a simple egotistical actor. "Overly egotistical" is super fringe-like. The real conspiracy is in how this aging lothario continues to get so much work and is one of the highest paid actors. By the way, does Popular Mechanics still sell those cool homemade hovercraft kits? That's so cool that they did all that hard work to uncover the truth so all those experts that don't work for their publication can relax and read other articles on car planes and such. I'm so glad I read your article. I was beginning to think I might listen to the people crying out Add a Comment
for answers. It's so much funner to watch football and ignore thems. Add a Comment

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In his request for an interview%2C Sheen points out that 6 of 10 commissioners publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9%2F11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack%2C and you like to label this a demand Add a Comment
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Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:12 PM
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Mark Whittington is scared. Move aside brother, the American people are waking up and will protect you, even thought you were a coward. And you are right, some cabal did not do this to us, rather it Add a Comment
WAS the tides of history and the mistakes of previous and current treasonous administrations. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:54 PM
Jon
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Ignorance of history and science? For one, Cover-ups and conspiracies have happened repeatedly throughout history and second, the rubble (evidence) was removed and tampered with way earlier Add a Comment
than science needed for it to be investigated properly. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:13 PM
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hahaha - popular mechanics - how can you quote that garbage?? Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:09 PM
dave
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I second that motion. irresponsible journalism to not investigate the allegations fully. shame on you Add a Comment
Mark. W. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:17 PM
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smug shabbily written dreck. Add a Comment

Posted on 09/08/2009 at 3:09:52 PM
Nick
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Perhaps you should speak with Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth: http://www.ae911truth.org/ Add a Comment
Who am I more apt to believe: unreliable government or actual architects/engineers? Add a Comment
Posted on 09/08/2009 at 2:09:17 PM

Did you actually READ the comments?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: hal 9000 on September 08, 2009, 08:55:50 pm
I like how the intrepid "journalist" at The Portland Mercury makes a joke out of Sheen looking at a blank computer screen, and threw in the old "9/11 truthers think the Jews did it" nonsense. As for Sheen looking at a blank computer screen, I have a news flash to that Portland Mercury "journalist" - Sheen is not looking at a blank computer screen. The picture was taken at an angle to the screen and the small print on the web page he was reading did not show up in the photo due to being washed out by the brightness of the background on the page."

Honestly, it is underhanded tactics like these that ultimately discredit the mainstream news media. They can only get away with fooling people with these kinds of tricks for so long. I hope this story hits the mainstream news shows big in the coming days. Maybe it's not quite as bad as I initially thought. The more they attack and vilify us, the more people take the time to look into the facts and find out they've been lied to. I hope this grows into a news media wildfire in the next few days. Bring it on.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 08:55:59 pm
http://www.examiner.com/x-9341-Manhattan-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Alex-Jones-publishes-fake-interview-of-President-Obama-with-Charlie-Sheen

Alex Jones publishes fake interview of President Obama with Charlie Sheen

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Alex Jones, the controversial talk radio host and operator of conspiracy websites like Infowars.com and Prisonplanet.com, sparked outrage today by publishing an entirely fabricated Q&A interview between President Barack Obama and Two and a Half Men actor Charlie Sheen. For his part, Sheen appears to be a willing participant in this ploy.

Branded as the most explosive information of his career, Jones posted a transcript of the fake conversation on his websites this morning, deliberately misrepresenting it as a 20-minute interview between Obama and Sheen. He later modified the content – after it was presented to the public as being real – to include a disclaimer on the very bottom of the article, which states that this is merely an open letter from Sheen to Obama, and that no such conversation has taken place. One website, AboveTopSecret.com, has since published a cached edition of the original report, which clearly demonstrates how it was initially positioned to viewers.

..

Even with the abovementioned revisions, this report continues to provide misleading information, as it attributes wholly falsified quotes to our President. In addition, its opening summary deceptively positions the conversation as being real; anyone that fails to read the entire document would never know the difference. That said, even though I often disagree with Obama politically – I believe, wholeheartedly – that these actions are completely malicious.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 08:57:47 pm
http://www.examiner.com/x-9341-Manhattan-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Alex-Jones-publishes-fake-interview-of-President-Obama-with-Charlie-Sheen

Alex Jones publishes fake interview of President Obama with Charlie Sheen


Look out, here comes JT,
Oh shit, Help!

Ha Ha!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 08:58:31 pm
That Reuters piece is a paid press release, so don't get excited! Anyone can pay for a press release.  It's the same exact one on Market Watch. Even if you search Charlie Sheen on Reuters, there's not one mention of  Charlie Sheen 20 minutes w/ president.

Yes we know that and they are starting to show up all over the place. It's a brilliant move to get the word out. Just think, this is only the first salvo and it's already becoming a masterpiece. It's like poetry in motion!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 08:58:48 pm
Look out, here comes JT,
Oh shit, Help!

Ha Ha!

Uh oh, they said "fake interview".  JT is gonna be "irritated".
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: rusty on September 08, 2009, 08:59:48 pm
30 minutes, and everyone is having a cow! What is going on? Did everyone not listen to the show. There were problems with the website all day. It went down for about an hour at the beginning of the show. At least I couldn't get connected. I got my stream from gcn. Alex mentioned it at the start of the show. Something about wordpress being all jumbled or something. Then he said someone was up all night putting this together.

Yeah, Alex is bad. Let's focus all of our attention on Alex instead of the crimes of 911.

This is the anniversary week.

Friday is September 11th.

8 years later.

Didn't Obama give a 20 minute speech to the school kids today?

Think someone googling that will stumble upon the truth? No, they will see how Alex Jones deceived everyone by not having a disclaimer posted for the first 30 minutes. Which was probably human error anyways. Good grief! I mean come one, get over it. The document is a perfect "wake-up guide" to 911, and that's where the attention needs to be directed.

Great job Charlie and Alex! Keep fighting the good fight!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 09:01:29 pm
I don't give a flyin' rat's arse about the interview.
i wanna see the biggest of AJ. :'(

Subjective opinion.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 09:02:32 pm
But to those being knowledgeable in the mechanics of trauma based mind control, do you think that this would have been their first choice of tactic in breaking the first brick?
Im not disagreeing just to be contrary, Im very disturbed by what I feel is a low level stab at a beast.... a very impotent stab.

I very well may be thinking about this wrong.. but it would make sense for those trying to reach as many as possible( or certain specific segments of the population) to pay attention to how some of us perceive these things that are being done.

"low level stab at the beast"?

This was an artistic work of satire that respected every one involved including foremost, the truth!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: el midgetron on September 08, 2009, 09:04:20 pm
I know a lawyer who's brother is good friends with Sheen. I pulled a few strings and was able to contact Sheen and got to ask him a couple questions about this letter. Heres how our encounter went -

EM - Mr. Sheen I want to thank you for having the courage to come out for 9/11 truth and paving the way for other celebrities to do the same.

CS - Please, call me Charlie.

EM - Ok Charlie. The reason I tracked you down today was because of the "letter" to Obama you wrote which was published on PrisonPlanet.com today. Alot of folks feel they were mislead into believing this was an actual meeting you had with.......

CS - .....oh geez...You know, I already regret releasing that letter.

EM - You do?

CS - Yeah, a letter was the wrong format. It should have been a documentary with paid actors and special effects.

EM - huh?

CS - But now the suprise ending has been publish, its ruined. People are not going to watch a documentary when they already know its fiction.

EM - Yeah, I think that would be a hard sell.

CS - On the flipside, Larry Flynt has optioned the rights of the letter to make another prono parody based on it. You know, something like "Whos nailin' Palin" or its two sequals.

EM - Anyway dude, um...I gotta get going.

CS - Ok, take care.

By the way. This never happened. Never, never ever never.  ;)



Seriously tho, I think the main problem people are having with this letter is how its been presented. I don't think it was a bad idea, I just think it was poorly delivered.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 09:04:21 pm
Did you actually READ the comments?

yup, 57 of them. At least 2-1 are awake concerning a completely bullshit article with zero journalistic integrity.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Pupil on September 08, 2009, 09:05:16 pm
Wow, there's a lot of mousepad warriors with their panties in a knot abut this.  With all due respect to the super-sleuths on this forum, I have a modest suggestion for those headaching about this:

Instead of whining about what OTHER people are doing, how about you get off your asses and go out and DO SOMETHING YOURSELVES!  

I just got back in from postering the hell out of Ottawa for our Loose Change screening on Friday.  Guess what? FRIDAY IS 9/11! Have YOU burnt 100 DVDs to hand out yet?

Get off your computers, get out in the streets and make some headlines of your own.  Take a hint from Nathan Moulton in Calgary:

http://www.activistmovie.com/ (http://www.activistmovie.com/)

Quit micro-analyzing everything Alex Jones does and DO SOMETHING YOURSELVES!  Look at all the time you're wasting ninnying about this!  GET OVER IT! Get outside where there are people who need to know what you've discovered!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: jofortruth on September 08, 2009, 09:11:58 pm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19543261/Twenty-Minutes-With-the-President

This has the Bibliography with the Letter in one document.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 10:08:24 pm
The collaterall damage will not compare to the eyes opened, isn't that what we are doing here.

A stunt, OK. so what. If citizens read this they may feel offended for at first, or they may wish it was for real, in any event it will call attention, not all negative by any means.

CS put his arse on the line in the only way he could, please shiite on someone else. I prefer his methods of that of the regime.



Excellently said, Chris.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 10:12:16 pm
I know a lawyer who's brother is good friends with Sheen. I pulled a few strings and was able to contact Sheen and got to ask him a couple questions about this letter. Heres how our encounter went -

EM - Mr. Sheen I want to thank you for having the courage to come out for 9/11 truth and paving the way for other celebrities to do the same.

CS - Please, call me Charlie.

EM - Ok Charlie. The reason I tracked you down today was because of the "letter" to Obama you wrote which was published on PrisonPlanet.com today. Alot of folks feel they were mislead into believing this was an actual meeting you had with.......

CS - .....oh geez...You know, I already regret releasing that letter.

EM - You do?

CS - Yeah, a letter was the wrong format. It should have been a documentary with paid actors and special effects.

EM - huh?

CS - But now the suprise ending has been publish, its ruined. People are not going to watch a documentary when they already know its fiction.

EM - Yeah, I think that would be a hard sell.

CS - On the flipside, Larry Flynt has optioned the rights of the letter to make another prono parody based on it. You know, something like "Whos nailin' Palin" or its two sequals.

EM - Anyway dude, um...I gotta get going.

CS - Ok, take care.

By the way. This never happened. Never, never ever never.  ;)



Seriously tho, I think the main problem people are having with this letter is how its been presented. I don't think it was a bad idea, I just think it was poorly delivered.

see how cool it is? now you are catching on. But instead of just using this form of satire to attack a brave person in the truth movement without any exposure of the facts of 9/11, you could use it for a positive effect that exposes the psychopaths that committed this heinous crime. I mean, not for nothing but you just did a hitpiece that adds no value wheras by Chuckie dropping the undebunkable questions, he allows the satire to expose truth.


Laughter without a tinge of philosophy is but a sneeze of humor. Genuine humor is replete with wisdom.
- quoted in Mark Twain and I, Opie Read
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: unitedstrokesofamerica on September 08, 2009, 10:18:11 pm
Have trust in Alex. He might say that he is dumb all the time, but he is not dumb at all. He built this "infowar" over the past 15 years or so.  If he wants to do a inside job on it that is his choice. I think this is kinda crazy but this information is not for me, not for anyone on here, we are not going to be swayed at this point by this. I know the 9/11 story was and always will be a lie.  Fortune favors the bold and AJ is one bold mother.....




Can't we all just get along......
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 10:21:15 pm




Can't we all just get along......

it's good that we don't agree on everything
we've had some great, rousing, healthy debate on this
I'm happy that we all have impassioned differences
for the most part, it's been pretty respectful, and
I've learned alot
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 08, 2009, 10:22:00 pm
Have trust in Alex. He might say that he is dumb all the time, but he is not dumb at all. He built this "infowar" over the past 15 years or so.  If he wants to do a inside job on it that is his choice. I think this is kinda crazy but this information is not for me, not for anyone on here, we are not going to be swayed at this point by this. I know the 9/11 story was and always will be a lie.  Fortune favors the bold and AJ is one bold mother.....




Can't we all just get along......

Sure Rodney, whatever you say...

 ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 08, 2009, 10:22:08 pm
HEY DUMBSHITS, GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES.

IT'S WORKING ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908

YOU NAYSAYING SONS OF BITCHES better GTFO and STFU.

AS USUAL, ALEX IS GENIUS!!!!

YOU f**kIN DUMBSHITS

except you monkey, I still love you

I think by now we would know to check for fine print, even though apparently on alex jones sites, that fine print might not be there for a while..

From that link

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This release was issued on behalf of the above organization by Send2Press(R),
a unit of Neotrope(R). http://www.Send2Press.com

http://www.send2press.com/

That site is all about paying to have articles published.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: unitedstrokesofamerica on September 08, 2009, 10:25:37 pm
Sure Rodney, whatever you say...

 ;D

Hey I am with you smoking monkey, I think this is a bad move but it was not my move to make.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 10:28:11 pm
"low level stab at the beast"?

This was an artistic work of satire that respected every one involved including foremost, the truth!

Not meant to offend, just my take on it. Maybe an alternate view from a grumpy person with the flu. ;) Seems a desperate act.. when one has to resort to a "snag 'em and bag 'em" strategy.... especially in this day when information travels so fast and you can basically pinpoint the exact type of people you want to reach/infiltrate. Infiltrate is a loaded word, but its correct in this case IMO.

 Im no one, my opinion doesnt count for much.... but keep in mind that there are others who it would be most prudent to rope in and they wont fall for or enjoy satire in matters as immediate and grave as these.Matters that they are so fully entrenched in that it would take more than a " I wish" satirical piece thats dismissed outright.  I guess if you want spread and boards lighting up with chatter... you have accomplished what you sought to do. However, youre alienating a most important segment that you all should be chomping at the bit to chip away at. I guess when youre fishing for men, it depends on the bait you use as to the type you catch.

What do I know anyway, huh... maybe I should write nyquil fueled satire myself, eh? :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 10:34:53 pm
http://books.google.com/books?id=6K3VXR-99NkC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=satire+and+revoluton&source=bl&ots=ammfQE6Icc&sig=wdCRoiWNI9Ae_GTD_YxDUUuX46Q&hl=en&ei=6x-nSrrKCMjUlAfu14iWBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=6K3VXR-99NkC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=satire+and+revoluton&source=bl&ots=ammfQE6Icc&sig=wdCRoiWNI9Ae_GTD_YxDUUuX46Q&hl=en&ei=6x-nSrrKCMjUlAfu14iWBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false)

from an interview with Wole Soyinka"

Can Satire be used for Revolutionary purposes?

http://www.indopedia.org/Satire.html (http://www.indopedia.org/Satire.html)
Notable examples of satire are:

    * Ovid The Art of Love
    * Juvenal (c. A.D. 55-140) 16 Satires
    * the Satirae (c. A.D. 50) by Petronius
    * A Tale of a Tub, Gulliver's Travels and "A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift, harsh views of the world
    * Candide by Voltaire, satirizing optimism
    * Erewhon by Samuel Butler II, a utopia, a form that is common in satire.
    * Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, a dystopia, also common in satire.
    * Ubu Roi (or King Turd), by Alfred Jarry, cacotopia
    * Penguin Island by Anatole France, utopia
    * Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, dystopia
    * Mark Twain's later works, notably The Man Who Corrupted Hadleyburg
    * Wise Blood by Flannery O'Connor, satirizing contemporary religious attitudes
    * C. Northcote Parkinson's satires on bureaucracy.
    * Thomas Nast's political cartoons against Boss Tweed
    * The Landover Baptist Church, an internet parody of Christian fundamentalism
    * Al Franken is a writer of political satire.
    * Stanley Kubrick's movies Doctor Strangelove and A Clockwork Orange.
    * Dario Fo's A Death of an Anarchist
    * le Canard Encha�n� publishes satiric cartoons and columns along with well-researched information on French political or economic life.
    * Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut Jr. is a political satire, adopting a sci-fi motif.
    * Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk is a satire of violence, fascism and nihilism.
    * Chris Morris's Brass Eye, a satire of Britsh news programmes
    * The Onion and The Daily Show, satires of the American news media

Some works of satire are subtle enough in their exaggeration that they still seem believable to many people. The satiric nature of these works may be lost on the public at large, and there have been instances where the author or producers of a satirical work have been harshly criticized as a result. In 2002 the British network Channel 4 aired a satiric mockumentary entitled Paedogeddon in the Brass Eye series, which was intended to mock and satirize the fascination of modern journalism with child molestors and paedophiles. The TV network received an enormous number of complaints from members of the public, who were outraged that the show would mock a subject considered by many to be too "serious" to be the subject of humor. The movie This is Spinal Tap, a spoof of rockumentaries, about a fictitious and ridiculous hard rock band was mistaken for a non-fiction by some critics.

On occasion, satire can cause social change when used to make a political or social point (although simply revealing absurdities to the public, as opposed to the quality of the satire, may be the actual cause of any consequences). For instance, the comic strip Doonesbury satirized a Florida county that had a racist law that minorities had to have a passcard in the area; the law was soon repealed with an act nicknamed the Doonesbury Act. In the 2000 Canadian federal election campaign, a Canadian Alliance proposal for a mechanism to require a referendum in response to a petition of sufficient size was satirized by the television show This Hour Has 22 Minutes so effectively that it was discredited and soon dropped.

Satire enjoyed a renaissance in the UK in the early 1960s with the Satire Boom, led by such luminaries as Peter Cook, Alan Bennett, Jonathan Miller, David Frost, Eleanor Bron and Dudley Moore and the television programme That Was The Week That Was.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mr anderson on September 08, 2009, 10:38:29 pm
I'm sorry but I'm not passing this on.

Monkeypox was right. This isn't the best way to go about it at all.

The best way was to publicly call Obama out and demand an independent investigation into 9/11 by supporting NYCCAN and then putiting forward the questions that we, victim's family members and first responders have AND THEN let the media come to the honeypot.

This may seem a good attempt at getting 9/11 back in the spotlight but for the general public will seem like a publicity stunt that misled people into believing it was a real interview. It had the disclaimer well after it was released.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 10:38:48 pm
Charlie Sheen, Obama, & Alex Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9fbKB4TvaA
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 10:42:44 pm
Not meant to offend, just my take on it. Maybe an alternate view from a grumpy person with the flu. ;) Seems a desperate act.. when one has to resort to a "snag 'em and bag 'em" strategy.... especially in this day when information travels so fast and you can basically pinpoint the exact type of people you want to reach/infiltrate. Infiltrate is a loaded word, but its correct in this case IMO.

 Im no one, my opinion doesnt count for much.... but keep in mind that there are others who it would be most prudent to rope in and they wont fall for or enjoy satire in matters as immediate and grave as these.Matters that they are so fully entrenched in that it would take more than a " I wish" satirical piece thats dismissed outright.  I guess if you want spread and boards lighting up with chatter... you have accomplished what you sought to do. However, youre alienating a most important segment that you all should be chomping at the bit to chip away at. I guess when youre fishing for men, it depends on the bait you use as to the type you catch.

What do I know anyway, huh... maybe I should write nyquil fueled satire myself, eh? :D

that nyquil stuff is pure poison  
A good shot of whiskey will put you right

also, imo, nothin was really workin to get this vital issue revved up,
if you're worried about people getting alienated,
I think they will get over it.
bottom line: an admittedly fictitious interview to bring attention back to 911 is nothing compared to the crimes committed (and still telescoping out) on that day
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Subliminal_Cowboy on September 08, 2009, 10:43:04 pm
Look, if AJ wanted to completely ruin this operation, he would have said on air today for all of us "regular listeners" to keep our cool and wait out what lies ahead. He knows we are informed, and intelligent enough to see at least a glimpse of what it is he and Charlie plan to accomplish. Remember, most of us could pick out a false flag operation in a heartbeat; and I think he is depending on us to see this for what it is. The Charlie Sheen interview, fictitious in essence, provides a great wealth of FACTUAL information for the uninformed. No doubt the media will go after Charlie again, and that is exactly what needs to happen. He said it in the clip that AJ played today.

“The truth is unchanging.” Sheen added. “Everything in this letter will withstand the critical assault I am more than prepared to endure.”

I just hope that the naysayers are able to put the pieces together, and see that Alex showed us all that we need to see to be able to understand what he and Charlie plan to do. We are not morons, and I don't swallow everything just because someone tells it to me. That is what we in this community are good at, putting together the pieces, and seeing things for what they really are. Our movement needs support more than ever right now. And we, as the core of that support, need to understand that.

Publicity stunt or not, this had to happen, and could not turn out as well as this will, if done any other way. I mean come on, look at how he disabled comments on the main page... Yet he left the forums going just fine for us to work through all of this exactly as we are doing. All new registrations must be approved first. He took away the ability for the Neocons and other NWO goons to smear this and for him and the movement to possibly lose supporters.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: changedname on September 08, 2009, 10:46:11 pm
At first I was disappointed that this interview was not real because I was all excited that something like that could have taken place and my thought's on this article was not favorable at first but then I thought abou it some more and that sort of thing is exactly how the PTB play us so maybe this little psyop will work! If they say nothing their damned and if they do say something and do nothing about it their damned too .. right?  This just might work! ahahaha I think it is worth a try at least!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 10:49:31 pm
There are a bunch of you here who lack the knack for appreciating a good story. A story chock-full of factual information... with that terrifying bit of honesty at the end...

For those of you who are comparing this article to the lying tripe that is been spewed by the mainstream media since the Kennedy assassination if not before... you need a little bit more time under your belt before anyone takes anything you say seriously.

You cannot accept the fact that it is a good article, though if you knew that it was based upon an article that was written in a mainstream news magazine a month or so back where a fictitious conversation took place between Martin Sheen and the president in an interview format... oh that's okay... that's mainstream press...

If you listen to the first hour of today's show, Alex will tell you where to find this article that gave Charlie the idea...

Our worst enemies... are in our own ranks...


Sane, I corralled a bunch of the Potomac CIP office boys over in one thread on the radio show page... you might want to go look at it... does Cloud William ring a bell... a character from an original Star Trek episode...

Thank God this forum isn't a democracy...

--Oldyoti

"If ever time should come, when vain and
aspiring men shall possess the highest seats
in Government, our country will stand in need
of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
~Samuel Adams
Title: Re: Remember this is an Information War!
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 10:50:27 pm
Bingo! ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barach Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruRevolution on September 08, 2009, 10:54:28 pm
You do realize there is a powerful weapon within the constitution's first amendment that acknowledges, enforces, protects freedom to write satire? Ya think maybe the founding fathers had a reason for protecting this inalienable right?
He has every right to post it, but with it being so close to 9/11 media will try to pick up on any little thing. They have done it in the past. With all these heated debates over 9/11 and with natgeo and countless other channels throwing 9/11 fakeumentries out we must watch our self carefully.  It was a wrong decision to post this satire on the main site, on the forum I think it would of been ok. With all these posters going up around the world, what do you think people will think when they read this, and like so many in the comments on the front page, did not read the disclosure at the bottom.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Subliminal_Cowboy on September 08, 2009, 10:57:02 pm
TruRevolution:

Quote
Look, if AJ wanted to completely ruin this operation, he would have said on air today for all of us "regular listeners" to keep our cool and wait out what lies ahead. He knows we are informed, and intelligent enough to see at least a glimpse of what it is he and Charlie plan to accomplish. Remember, most of us could pick out a false flag operation in a heartbeat; and I think he is depending on us to see this for what it is. The Charlie Sheen interview, fictitious in essence, provides a great wealth of FACTUAL information for the uninformed. No doubt the media will go after Charlie again, and that is exactly what needs to happen. He said it in the clip that AJ played today.

“The truth is unchanging.” Sheen added. “Everything in this letter will withstand the critical assault I am more than prepared to endure.”

I just hope that the naysayers are able to put the pieces together, and see that Alex showed us all that we need to see to be able to understand what he and Charlie plan to do. We are not morons, and I don't swallow everything just because someone tells it to me. That is what we in this community are good at, putting together the pieces, and seeing things for what they really are. Our movement needs support more than ever right now. And we, as the core of that support, need to understand that.

Publicity stunt or not, this had to happen, and could not turn out as well as this will, if done any other way. I mean come on, look at how he disabled comments on the main page... Yet he left the forums going just fine for us to work through all of this exactly as we are doing. All new registrations must be approved first. He took away the ability for the Neocons and other NWO goons to smear this and for him and the movement to possibly lose supporters.

This is about winning the infowar, and we don't exactly have to play by their rules... get what I'm saying?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 10:57:54 pm
 
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Thank God this forum isn't a democracy...

--Oldyoti

one of my favorite jones quotes:

a democracy: two wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner
a constitutional republic: the sheep has a gun

thank god this forum isn't either one of those

What exactly is the forum?
definitely an Ochlocracy
(look it up)

 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 10:59:32 pm
There are a bunch of you here who lack the knack for appreciating a good story. A story chock-full of factual information... with that terrifying bit of honesty at the end...

For those of you who are comparing this article to the lying tripe that is been spewed by the mainstream media since the Kennedy assassination if not before... you need a little bit more time under your belt before anyone takes anything you say seriously.

You cannot accept the fact that it is a good article, though if you knew that it was based upon an article that was written in a mainstream news magazine a month or so back where a fictitious conversation took place between Martin Sheen and the president in an interview format... oh that's okay... that's mainstream press...

If you listen to the first hour of today's show, Alex will tell you where to find this article that gave Charlie the idea...

Our worst enemies... are in our own ranks...


Sane, I corralled a bunch of the Potomac CIP office boys over in one thread on the radio show page... you might want to go look at it... does Cloud William ring a bell... a character from an original Star Trek episode...

Thank God this forum isn't a democracy...

--Oldyoti

"If ever time should come, when vain and
aspiring men shall possess the highest seats
in Government, our country will stand in need
of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
~Samuel Adams


Enemies in your own ranks? Does this mean if one disagrees with this they are automatically an enemy? Serious question.

I expect the MSM to mix truth with false.... I do not expect a truth movement to emulate that.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 11:00:35 pm
THE FICKLE CROWD   definitely describes the forum
  ;D
Ochlocracy (Greek: οχλοκρατία or okhlokratía; Latin: ochlocratia) is government by mob or a mass of people, or the intimidation of constitutional authorities. In English, the word mobocracy is sometimes used as a synonym. As a pejorative for majoritarianism, it is akin to the Latin phrase mobile vulgus meaning "the fickle crowd," from which the term "mob" originally derives.[1]

As a term in civics it implies that there is no formal authority whatsoever, not even a commonly accepted view of anarchism[citation needed], and so disputes are raised, contended and closed by brute force − might makes right, but only in a very local and temporary way, as another mob or another mood might just as easily sway a decision. It is often associated with demagoguery and the rule of passion over reason. It may be considered an ad hoc democracy.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 08, 2009, 11:00:46 pm
Charlie Sheen, Obama, & Alex Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9fbKB4TvaA

That's a great perspective on the situation. Anyone on the fence about the location of the disclaimer should watch this.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 11:03:11 pm
I'm sorry but I'm not passing this on.

Monkeypox was right. This isn't the best way to go about it at all.

The best way was to publicly call Obama out and demand an independent investigation into 9/11 by supporting NYCCAN and then putiting forward the questions that we, victim's family members and first responders have AND THEN let the media come to the honeypot.

This may seem a good attempt at getting 9/11 back in the spotlight but for the general public will seem like a publicity stunt that misled people into believing it was a real interview. It had the disclaimer well after it was released.

1] your choice

2] no disclaimer necessary, over 300 years of satire has employed the same tactics.

3] disclaimer came in less than  3 hours

4] all tactics mentioned have been employed from day one. using other tactics does not deny them in any way shape or form

5] you do realize we are human and god gave humans the ability to laugh right? the ability to use our brains to form satire that allows truth to penetrate stiff defenses.

6] already there are hit pieces and on those hit pieces, the comments overwhelmingly reflect the truth.

7] the hitpieces themselves add another layer to the cover-up which can easily be exposed.

I think there are like 20 other positive things and I cannot think of one negative.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 11:11:15 pm
Enemies in your own ranks? Does this mean if one disagrees with this they are automatically an enemy? Serious question.

I expect the MSM to mix truth with false.... I do not expect a truth movement to emulate that.

OMFG..it was a piece of fricking satire.

you do not think it was the right tactic. whatever, your not the one who wrote the brilliant artistic piece of literature. charlie wrote it and even within it writes about how he is prepared to defend it from the morons of the MSM, not people within the movement. I mean what the heck, do you go to rallies and yell at people who did not use the right font on their signs?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 11:15:34 pm
Charlie Sheen, Obama, & Alex Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9fbKB4TvaA

"Anybody with half brain would have read the disclaimer" I agree totally,when the disclaimer was finally posted, for the people that seen the article without the disclaimer is a little bit different.I also agree that putting the disclaimer on the top would have been pointless,again this is not the issue.

Nobody is criticizing the content of the piece because it is brilliant and factual and cannot be debunked,I have not seen one debate about against the information,so the piece is not the problem,the manner in which it was put out is.When I read it I was there in the room with both of them and just got blown away more and more as I read,then when I got to the hit points I was like holy crap,"Houston we have lift off,9/11 is going viral",then I seen the disclaimer and the rest is printed on this forum.
Title: Re: Remember this is an Information War!
Post by: xopatriot on September 08, 2009, 11:15:56 pm
True... but when they realize the "interview" is hypothetical it looses much of it's punch and although the issues raised are true the reader may disregard everything they read, coupled with the fact that if it does make it to the MSM they will have a field day calling us loonies and delusional. I am afraid this may backfire but God willing I am wrong and the sheeple at least bother to research the claims for themselves, but let's face it America is a nation of sheep just waiting to be led to the slaughter.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 08, 2009, 11:16:41 pm
Enemies in your own ranks? Does this mean if one disagrees with this they are automatically an enemy? Serious question.

I expect the MSM to mix truth with false.... I do not expect a truth movement to emulate that.

Uh...what?

The MSM mixes truth with false and tries to pass it off as 100% truth. The Charlie Sheen article is a satirical masterpiece. It in no way emulates the MSM.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 11:16:58 pm
OMFG..it was a piece of fricking satire.

you do not think it was the right tactic. whatever, your not the one who wrote the brilliant artistic piece of literature. charlie wrote it and even within it writes about how he is prepared to defend it from the morons of the MSM, not people within the movement. I mean what the heck, do you go to rallies and yell at people who did not use the right font on their signs?

hehe! Nope. :D
I THOUGHT we were discussing it here. Differing opinions and learning things and such. But hey, okay. Im an enemy since I disagree just as much as you agree. Neener. I can live pretty easily with that.  :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 11:18:33 pm
(http://www.nataliedee.com/032607/now-youre-getting-socked.jpg)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 11:19:32 pm
Uh...what?

The MSM mixes truth with false and tries to passit off as 100% truth. The Charlie Sheen article is a satirical masterpiece.

From JT's post:

You cannot accept the fact that it is a good article, though if you knew that it was based upon an article that was written in a mainstream news magazine a month or so back where a fictitious conversation took place between Martin Sheen and the president in an interview format... oh that's okay... that's mainstream press...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 11:20:44 pm
hehe! Nope. :D
I THOUGHT we were discussing it here. Differing opinions and learning things and such. But hey, okay. Im an enemy since I disagree just as much as you agree. Neener. I can live pretty easily with that.  :D

discussing what? we got it, you would not choose that tactic. your opinion, you are welcome to it. charlie did choose this tactic and we are discussing how to assist in having it go viral for millions to see. why would we be bashing AJ, Charlie, or anyone else about a tactic, this seems asinine to me. especially since this tactic has been used for thousands of years to awaken people to tyranny and deception.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 08, 2009, 11:22:37 pm
Well it worked, i like many others thought Chazza had spoken to Bazzaaa. :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 08, 2009, 11:24:51 pm
discussing what? we got it, you would not choose that tactic. your opinion, you are welcome to it. charlie did choose this tactic and we are discussing how to assist in having it go viral for millions to see. why would we be bashing AJ, Charlie, or anyone else about a tactic, this seems asinine to me. especially since this tactic has been used for thousands of years to awaken people to tyranny and deception.

Im not bashing anyone.. never have, never will.Really understand what I am trying to say, okay? Im saying follow it up with something to ping the segment that was alienated and completely turned off. I know for a fact as of today a group of folks were completely turned off by this. I swear to you Sane... they are completely turned away from it now.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Subliminal_Cowboy on September 08, 2009, 11:26:40 pm
Get the message out! Send the article to all of your local and the national news agencies!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNNyZIdppyo
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 08, 2009, 11:29:31 pm
1] your choice

2] no disclaimer necessary, over 300 years of satire has employed the same tactics.

3] disclaimer came in less than  3 hours

4] all tactics mentioned have been employed from day one. using other tactics does not deny them in any way shape or form

5] you do realize we are human and god gave humans the ability to laugh right? the ability to use our brains to form satire that allows truth to penetrate stiff defenses.

6] already there are hit pieces and on those hit pieces, the comments overwhelmingly reflect the truth.

7] the hitpieces themselves add another layer to the cover-up.

I think there are like 20 other positive things and I cannot think of one negative.

Way less than three hours actually... it was up on infowars within 45 minutes after the first posting... I explained this before, one of the problems with WordPress when you are posting an extremely long piece of text, it must go up in short snippets during high traffic times, or it jumbles/stumbles/crashes the system... this article is 16 pages long and had to be up on both websites by 9 AM Central Time.

Anyway Alex explains the process in the first hour of the show, some of the problems with posting considering the number of people who were logged into both infowars, and prison planet... eagerly anticipating news of what was about to occur... in any case the disclaimer was part of the article and was up on prisonplanet finally, by about 12:00 AM Central Time...

The thing is, if the only thing the idiot critics can go after is the disclaimer... then that's a good thing... you would hope they would read the article and attempt to get the meaning of what was being said... but where's the fun in that.

The one-size-fits-all folks here, wouldn't appreciate a soft satirical editorial... as is obvious by the number of naysayers, still not many really, just a few...

I got the final numbers on the total hits we had in the first four hours on both websites... a total of just over three quarters of a million... so posting anything during that time was slow since the access was spotty at best till about 1 PM CT...

Anyway it was a really successful day... you can always tell, by the number of the Potomac CIP Boys that come and visit... at one time on infowars, there were over 100... posting all manner of hateful negative tripe, at about a quarter past in the first hour of the show Matt had to shut down the comments, because aside from the photos on the site, the comments are the biggest consumer of bandwidth... with all of the hits we were getting, like I said in a previous post all of the servers, including the one that serves this site where flickering like incandescent lights in an underground air raid shelter during a heavy bombing... (chuckle)...

-Oldyoti

Luke 22:36: Then said he unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse,
let him take it, and likewise his scrip; and he that hath no sword,
let him sell his garment, and buy one".
--Jesus to his disciples
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mr anderson on September 08, 2009, 11:31:33 pm
1] your choice

2] no disclaimer necessary, over 300 years of satire has employed the same tactics.

3] disclaimer came in less than  3 hours

4] all tactics mentioned have been employed from day one. using other tactics does not deny them in any way shape or form

5] you do realize we are human and god gave humans the ability to laugh right? the ability to use our brains to form satire that allows truth to penetrate stiff defenses.

6] already there are hit pieces and on those hit pieces, the comments overwhelmingly reflect the truth.

7] the hitpieces themselves add another layer to the cover-up which can easily be exposed.

I think there are like 20 other positive things and I cannot think of one negative.
The positives I see are: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908

This still would of been as effective if it wasn't a mock interview but (An open letter) calling on Obama for an investigation, listed his questions & references and let the media come to the honeypot as they are now.

He did that in 2006 and the spotlight was huge.

The disclaimer should of been there from the get-go because the general public isn't concerned with satire. They want TV, Internet, Phone, Sex, Money.

I knew from the language in the interview that Charlie Sheen couldn't possibly have interview Barack Obama but let's remind ourselves this is for the general public not us.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: OzzyPatriot on September 08, 2009, 11:38:33 pm
Remember the bizarreness of the joker? This is just another scheme being used to get the people's attention. You guys loved the joker, right? This is no different!



Do you all see what's happening here? Instead of talking about the links and info regarding what happened on 911, the people in this thread are talking about their objection to the method used to deliver the information? OH MY! TALK ABOUT A DISTRACTION! THIS IS TOTALLY OFF POINT.

THE POINT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING IS:   what happened on 911, who did it, why no investigation, would the President ever meet with the people in these groups who have done their own investigation, etc etc etc.

 >:(





I think I understand why he is doing this.

But AJ crossed a line here.
It's called the "truth movement". I'm guessing almost every visitor to AJ's websites pride themselves on being on the right side of truth.
Now they may feel like AJ is willing to lie to get things happening.
There's a right and wrong way to do things. This whole movement has been gaining because of a minority being interested in the truth. And the truth has been gaining, despite MSM lies etc. That's why to tell lies now is wrong. It's not "fighting fire with fire". It's like some desperate gamble to get truth out of lies. Personally. I think AJ just became a friendly fire victim in the info-war.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Subliminal_Cowboy on September 08, 2009, 11:38:43 pm
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The disclaimer should of been there from the get-go because the general public isn't concerned with satire.  

They don't have to be concerned with satire. Satire is the sugar added to the medicine to make it go down easier, whether you realize it or not. This story is in fact, a huge force that will gain us a mass amount of support.


Ozzy, how has AJ lied to you, or any of us? Every single point that Sheen made in that satirical letter, is FACT. Indisputable, cold, hard, fact. And damnit you people attacking Jones will see soon enough what Charlie and him have done. I'm sort of sick of pointing out the obvious.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 11:39:59 pm
The positives I see are: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908

This still would of been as effective if it wasn't a mock interview but (An open letter) calling on Obama for an investigation, listed his questions & references and let the media come to the honeypot as they are now.

He did that in 2006 and the spotlight was huge.

The disclaimer should of been there from the get-go because the general public isn't concerned with satire. They want TV, Internet, Phone, Sex, Money.

I knew from the language in the interview that Charlie Sheen couldn't possibly have interview Barack Obama but let's remind ourselves this is for the general public not us.

the disclaimer came as the article was being finalized, the process took 20 minutes (again, WTF?)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 11:44:49 pm
I think I understand why he is doing this.

But AJ crossed a line here.
It's called the "truth movement". I'm guessing almost every visitor to AJ's websites pride themselves on being on the right side of truth.
Now they may feel like AJ is willing to lie to get things happening.
There's a right and wrong way to do things. This whole movement has been gaining because of a minority being interested in the truth. And the truth has been gaining, despite MSM lies etc. That's why to tell lies now is wrong. It's not "fighting fire with fire". It's like some desperate gamble to get truth out of lies. Personally. I think AJ just became a friendly fire victim in the info-war.


fighting fire with fire? do you have any idea what you are talking about?

the truth movement has used satire from day one. satire is a constitutionally protected right of the people and has been used for thousands of years to expose genocidal f**khead elites.

sorry, we will not follow the social architects limited methods to wake people ip to the truth about 9/11.

read the interview, often.

it is a work of art, damn funny too.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 11:45:09 pm
I think I understand why he is doing this.

But AJ crossed a line here.
It's called the "truth movement". I'm guessing almost every visitor to AJ's websites pride themselves on being on the right side of truth.
Now they may feel like AJ is willing to lie to get things happening.
There's a right and wrong way to do things. This whole movement has been gaining because of a minority being interested in the truth. And the truth has been gaining, despite MSM lies etc. That's why to tell lies now is wrong. It's not "fighting fire with fire". It's like some desperate gamble to get truth out of lies. Personally. I think AJ just became a friendly fire victim in the info-war.


he never lied
disclaimer went up
bottom line: great interview, (fictitious, faux, creative: call it what you will)
fabulous piece of enduring literature that will go in the aresenal
print it off, hand it to people PUT THE DISCLAIMER IN RED INK ON THE TOP if you will
just use it
that's what this was all about
back to work infowarriors!
fireworks are over
 

Title: Re: VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS TACTIC
Post by: Subliminal_Cowboy on September 08, 2009, 11:45:52 pm



Since it obvious that many of you have a hard time reading anything through, including this thread; I am reposting my previous comment:


Look, if AJ wanted to completely ruin this operation, he would have said on air today for all of us "regular listeners" to keep our cool and wait out what lies ahead. He knows we are informed, and intelligent enough to see at least a glimpse of what it is he and Charlie plan to accomplish. Remember, most of us could pick out a false flag operation in a heartbeat; and I think he is depending on us to see this for what it is. The Charlie Sheen interview, fictitious in essence, provides a great wealth of FACTUAL information for the uninformed. No doubt the media will go after Charlie again, and that is exactly what needs to happen. He said it in the clip that AJ played today.

“The truth is unchanging.” Sheen added. “Everything in this letter will withstand the critical assault I am more than prepared to endure.”

I just hope that the naysayers are able to put the pieces together, and see that Alex showed us all that we need to see to be able to understand what he and Charlie plan to do. We are not morons, and I don't swallow everything just because someone tells it to me. That is what we in this community are good at, putting together the pieces, and seeing things for what they really are. Our movement needs support more than ever right now. And we, as the core of that support, need to understand that.

Publicity stunt or not, this had to happen, and could not turn out as well as this will, if done any other way. I mean come on, look at how he disabled comments on the main page... Yet he left the forums going just fine for us to work through all of this exactly as we are doing. All new registrations must be approved first. He took away the ability for the Neocons and other NWO goons to smear this and for him and the movement to possibly lose supporters.
 

 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mr anderson on September 08, 2009, 11:47:36 pm
the disclaimer came as the article was being finalized, the process took 20 minutes (again, WTF?)
Within those 20 minutes anyone who was anyone and that included newcomers ran with it.

To add to that it was the fact it was so hyped and all it was, was a 'satirical' letter that was a catalyst for calling for a meeting between Mr. Sheen and Barack Obama over the re-opening of the investigation into 9/11.

It's not the message but the delivery. An open letter instead of a mock interview would of been superb.

I'm starting to understand the letter aspect, to a degree. So long as the mainstream media notes that it's satirical / mock interview then it's fine.

It is having an affect but is this how we must broach the topic of 9/11? With continued hype?

+ A public endorsement of NYCCAN wouldn't go unnoticed either.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11 Genius!
Post by: RonPaulRocks on September 08, 2009, 11:48:27 pm
How do you force the mainstream media to read 20 important bullet points that destroy the 9/11 fable?

You write a work of genius! Charlie Sheen spend over 200 hours writing this script. You must understand why Sheen did this. We are 8 years out of 9/11 and there needs to be justice for the 3000 dead and the millions more that have died as a result. Thank you Charlie Sheen you are a real hero for truth!

(http://files.myopera.com/Wakajawaka/blog/charlie_sheen_30002.jpg)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11 Genius!
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 08, 2009, 11:50:04 pm
How do you force the mainstream media to read 20 important bullet points that destroy the 9/11 fable?

You write a work of genius! Charlie Sheen spend over 200 hours writing this script. You must understand why Sheen did this. We are 8 years out of 9/11 and there needs to be justice for the 3000 dead and the millions more that have died as a result. Thank you Charlie Sheen you are a real hero for truth!



not to mention the million plus dead in wars we falsely entered BECAUSE OF
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 08, 2009, 11:51:22 pm
I know what satire is and this guy definitely knows what satire is  ;)  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1RKRpS7CT8&feature=fvw

 ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 11:56:29 pm
Within those 20 minutes anyone who was anyone and that included newcomers ran with it.

To add to that it was the fact it was so hyped and all it was, was a 'satirical' letter that was a catalyst for calling for a meeting between Mr. Sheen and Barack Obama over the re-opening of the investigation into 9/11.

It's not the message but the delivery. An open letter instead of a mock interview would of been superb.

I'm starting to understand the letter aspect, to a degree. So long as the mainstream media notes that it's satirical / mock interview then it's fine.

It is having an affect but is this how we must broach the topic of 9/11? With continued hype?

+ A public endorsement of NYCCAN wouldn't go unnoticed either.



forgive my brashness in communication, but WTF, it is a simple piece of satire. we are all humans who are using human spirit and free will to expose the truth about 911 any way we can.

you would have chosen a different tactic, fine. Charlie didn't. We should either be helping to distribute the awesome piece of American literature or not. Creating some ISO 9000 protocol for distributing information is completely back asswords IMO.

If you do not like the way it was hyped, just listen to Flavor Flav's advice for future hyped stuff. I am fairly confident AJ weighed this and we still do not know if there is more to come.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ES on September 08, 2009, 11:56:52 pm
My analysis: The success of this effort rests on wheather or not the media will pick this story up or ignore it. When Charlie first came out with his questions, the media gave it a lot of attention. But will they do this again? If they do then these questions will be exposed and more will learn about the issues and it will be a platform from which conversations can occur about 911. It seems to me that Charlie Sheen requesting the interview with Obama is the real story here, not the letter. If the story does not get attention, then what have we lost? a couple hours of Charlie's time and a peice of paper. If people don't think this letter is a good vehicle to convince people then don't use it. Personally I don't think I would go to a town hall meeting and quote any celebrity. When I attended a town hall, I brought up the polls that show a majority of people in this country have questions about 911. Or bring up as Charlie pointed out the 911 commissions own statements. Or any number of facts that contradict the official story. I hope this gets some msm attention but if it doesn't so what, just keep exposing the globalists however you see fit.
Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 08, 2009, 11:59:27 pm
More brilliant satire: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=56970.0
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruthShallSetYouFree on September 09, 2009, 12:00:29 am
I think that Alex Jones has lost the plot. First he does that Joker stunt and now he perpetrates a HOAX on his LOYAL FANS???

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU ALEX??? ARE YOU SANE, MAN?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 09, 2009, 12:04:26 am
If you do not like the way it was hyped, just listen to Flavor Flav's advice for future hyped stuff.

Whats that Sane,911 is a joke ???  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 09, 2009, 12:06:59 am
Did you just question Alex's sanity....? For 20 pieces of fact hidden in beautifully crafted piece of satirical fiction... satire...???

You've been licking the queens itty c***** right...??????? 24 posts...? Loyal fans...? You're Gone!!!!

--Oldyoti

"In no instance have... the churches been guardians
of the liberties of the people."
~James Madison
Title: This is how satire works
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 12:08:04 am
This is how satire works. it is an extremely powerful tool, but whatever you seem to have a very minor issue. It is not deception and mis-leading (well maybe for a few seconds-but that is the nature of fine works of literature). have you ever read Mark Twain? Jonathon Swift? Shakespeare?

I think Hamlet was rather amazing. Shakespeare was so brilliant that the entire play was a satire of the insanity of elite scumbags who have no regard for morals (well I guess in the end all elites acquire this disease).  But within the play was a play exposing the truth about Hamlet's father in law. This play within a play was used to terrify the murderous and treasonous king.  This therefore added 2 layers of "shame attacks" on backstabbing elites who made their place on the pyramid through horrendous crimes.

But I guess some probably feel that Shakespeare's tactics were unapprovable too.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 12:09:37 am
Whats that Sane,911 is a joke ???  ;)  ;D

don't don't don't believe the hype...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP2tyZu0lqs
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Subliminal_Cowboy on September 09, 2009, 12:09:43 am
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But I guess you probably feel that Shakespeare's tactics were unapprovable by your anal scrutiny of what contributes to society.

I lol'd.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 09, 2009, 12:11:01 am
Did you just question Alex's sanity....? for 20 pieces of fact hidden in fiction... satire...???

You've been licking the queens itty c***** right... 24 posts...? Loyal fans...? Your Gone!!!!

--Oldyoti

"In no instance have... the churches been guardians
of the liberties of the people."
~James Madison


Ohh no... please dont do that.  :-[ The truth within it was spot on... lets just go over that and not ban. Maybe they just dont know.. hell I dont know enough of it all to fight my way out of a paper bag! If I were dismissed out of hand when I was questioning or dissenting, Id have NEVER woken up to the little extent I feel I am now!
Title: Re: VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS TACTIC
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 09, 2009, 12:13:34 am
uhhhhhhh, that is how satire works. it is an extremely powerful tool, but whatever you seem to have a very minor issue. It is not deception and mis-leading (well maybe for a few seconds-but that is the nature of fine works of literature). have you ever read Mark Twain? Jonathon Swift? Shakespeare?

I think Hamlet was rather amazing. Shakespeare was so brilliant that the entire play was a satire of the insanity of elite scumbags who have no regard for morals (well I guess in the end all elites acquire this disease).  But within the play was a play exposing the truth about Hamlet's father in law. This play within a play was used to terrify the murderous and treasonous king.  This therefore added 2 layers of "shame attacks" on backstabbing elites who made their place on the pyramid through horrendous crimes.

But I guess you probably feel that Shakespeare's tactics were unapprovable by your anal scrutiny of what contributes to society.

Subtle Satire was the craft of The Father of American Independence,
  THOMAS PAINE!!!!

JTCoyoté

"'Tis the business of little minds to shrink;
but he whose heart is firm, and whose
conscience approves his conduct, will
pursue his principles unto death."
~Thomas Paine,
Common Sense
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 12:13:48 am
Did you just question Alex's sanity....? For 20 pieces of fact hidden in beautifully crafted piece of satirical fiction... satire...???

You've been licking the queens itty c***** right... 24 posts...? Loyal fans...? Your Gone!!!!

--Oldyoti

"In no instance have... the churches been guardians
of the liberties of the people."
~James Madison


he is just passionate and I highly doubt he has read everything about this issue.

or he is a bona fide troll.

i rather give everyone on this thread the benefit of the doubt because this whole thing is so easily exposed as being sheer brilliance and geniusness!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 09, 2009, 12:14:26 am
don't don't don't believe the hype...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP2tyZu0lqs


I know I was just trying to tie in a 9/11 connection  ;)

BTW this http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=56970.0 is brilliant,I LMFAO when I read it  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 12:16:02 am
I know I was just trying to tie in a 9/11 connection  ;)

BTW this http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=56970.0 is brilliant,I LMFAO when I read it  ;)  ;D

but there was no disclaimer ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ridebmx on September 09, 2009, 12:16:51 am
George Noorey is pissed at alex
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 09, 2009, 12:18:36 am
George Noorey is pissed at alex

What's he saying?

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 09, 2009, 12:20:09 am
he is just passionate and I highly doubt he has read everything about this issue.

or he is a bona fide troll.

i rather give everyone on this thread the benefit of the doubt because this whole thing is so easily exposed as being sheer brilliance and geniusness!

Why...? They aren't giving any concession to Alex, or Charlie?? These two have just pulled off one of the most brilliant bits of journalism in a couple hundred years... the president is going to have to address it now, unlike the spotlight failure in 2006 where Charlie just did an open letter...

I will give the benefit of the doubt, to anyone who will turn like trade.

God I loath smart ass newbies... ;D

JTCoyoté

“Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits
to whatever is dictated to it.”
~Thomas Paine,
Common Sense
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 12:24:21 am
EMERGENCY WARNING FOR OFFICE WORKERS
FROM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7U22m9xLrQ
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: agentbluescreen on September 09, 2009, 12:27:48 am
Twenty Minutes with the President
http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/
Reported by Charlie Sheen
Infowars
Tuesday, September 8, 2009



I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with our 44th President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, while he was out promoting his health care reform initiative. I requested 30 minutes given the scope and detail of my inquiry; they said I could have 20. Twenty minutes, 1200 seconds, not a lot of time to question the President about one of the most important events in our nation’s history. The following is a transcript of our remarkable discussion.

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Charlie Sheen – Good afternoon Mr. President, thank you so much for taking time out of your demanding schedule.

President Barack Obama – My pleasure, the content of your request seemed like something I should carve out a few minutes for.

CS – I should point out that I voted for you, as your promises of hope and change, transparency and accountability, as well as putting government back into the hands of the American people, struck an emotional chord in me that I hadn’t felt in quite some time, perhaps ever.

PBO – And I appreciate that Charlie. Big fan of the show, by the way.

CS – Sir, I can’t imagine when you might find the time to actually watch my show given the measure of what you inherited.

PBO – I have it Tivo’d on Air Force One. Nice break from the traveling press corps. (He glances at his watch) not to be abrupt or to rush you, but you have 19 minutes left.

CS – I’ll take that as an invitation to cut to the chase.

PBO – I’m all ears. Or so I’ve been told.

CS – Sir, in the very near future we will be experiencing our first 9/11 anniversary with you as Commander in Chief.

PBO – Yes. A very solemn day for our Nation. A day of reflection and yet a day of historical consciousness as well.

CS – Very much so sir, very much so indeed…. Now; In researching your position regarding the events of 9/11 and the subsequent investigation that followed, am I correct to understand that you fully support and endorse the findings of the commission report otherwise known as the ‘official story’?

PBO – Do I have any reason not to? Given that most of us are presumably in touch with similar evidence.

CS – I really wish that were the case, sir. Are you aware, Mr. President, of the recent stunning revelations that sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack?

PBO – I am aware of certain “in fighting” during the course of their very thorough and tireless investigative process.

CS – Mr. President, it’s hard to label this type of friction as “in fighting” or make the irresponsible leap to “thorough,” when the evidence I insist you examine regarding 6 of the 10 members are statements of fact.

(At this point one of Obama’s senior aides approaches the President and whispers into his ear. Obama glances quickly at his watch and nods as the aide resumes his post at the doorway, directly behind me.)

PBO – No disrespect Mr. Sheen, but I have to ask; what is it that you seem to be implying with the initial direction of this discussion?

CS – I am not implying anything Mr. President. I am here to present the facts and see what you plan to do with them.

PBO – Let me guess; your ‘facts,’ allegedly supporting these claims are in the folders you brought with you?

CS – Good guess Mr. President.

(I hand the first folder of documents to the President)

CS – Again sir, these are not my opinions or assumptions, this is all a matter of public record, reported through mainstream media, painstakingly fact checked and verified.

(the President glances into the folder I handed him)

CS – You’ll notice sir on page one of the dossier dated August of ‘06 from the Washington Post, the statements of John Farmer, senior council to the 9/11 commission, his quote stating, “I was shocked how different the truth was from the way it was described.”

PBO – (as he glances down at the report, almost inaudible) …. um hmm….

CS – He goes on to further state “The [NORAD Air Defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years….”

(the President continues to view the documents)

CS – On pages two and three, sir, are the statements, as well, from commission co-chairmen Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, commissioners Bob Kerrey, Timothy Roemer and John Lehman, as well as the statements of commissioner Max Cleland, an ex-Senator from Georgia , who resigned, stating:

“It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.”

He also described President Bush’s desire to delay the process as not to damage the ‘04 re-election bid. They suspected deception to the point where they considered referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation. Mr. President, this information alone is unequivocally grounds for a new investigation!

PBO – Mistakes were clearly made but we as a people and as a country need to move forward. It is obviously in our best interest as a democratic society to focus our efforts and our resources on the future of this great nation and our ability to protect the American people and our allies from this type of terrorism in the coming years.

CS – Sir, how can we focus on the future when THE COMMISSION ITSELF is on record stating that they still do not know the truth??

PBO – Even if what you state, might in some capacity, begin to approach an open discussion or balanced debate, I can’t speak for, or about the decisions certain commission members made during an extremely difficult period. Perhaps you should be interviewing them instead of me. Wait, don’t tell me; I was easier to track down than they were?

CS – Not exactly sir, but let’s be honest. You’re the President of the United States, the leader of the free world, the buck stops with you. 9/11 has been the pretext for the systematic dismantling of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Your administration is reading from the same playbook that the Bush administration foisted on America through documented secrecy and deception.

PBO – Mr. Sheen, I’m having a difficult time sitting here and listening to you draw distorted parallels between the Bush/Cheney regime and mine.

CS – Mr. President the parallels are not distorted just because you say they are. Let’s stick to the facts. You promised to abolish the Patriot Act and then voted to re-authorize it. You pledged to end warrantless wire tapping against the American people and now energetically defend it. You decried the practice of rendition and now continue it. You promised over and over again on the campaign trail, that you would end the practice of indefinite detention and instead, you have expanded it to permanent detention of “detainees” without trial. This far exceeds the outrages of the former administration. Call me crazy Mr. President, but is this not your record?

PBO – Mr. Sheen, my staff and I authorized this interview based on your request to discuss 9/11 and deliver some additional information you’re convinced I’d not previously reviewed. Call me crazy, But it appears as though you’ve blindly wandered off topic.

CS – Sir, the examples I just illustrated are a direct result of 9/11.

PBO – And I’m telling you that we must move forward, we must endure through these dangerous and politically challenging years ahead.

CS – Mr. President, we cannot move forward with a bottomless warren of unanswered questions surrounding that day and its aftermath.

PBO – I read the official report. Every word every page. Perhaps you should do the same.

CS – I have sir, and so have thousands of family members of the victims, and guess what; they have the same questions I do and probably a lot more. I didn’t lose a loved one on that horrific day Mr. President and neither did you. But since then I, along with millions of other Americans lost something we held true and dear for most of our lives in this great country of ours; we lost our hope.

PBO – And I’d like to believe that I am here to restore that hope. To restore confidence in your leaders, in the system that the voting public chose through a peaceful transfer of power.

(An odd moment of silence between us. Precious time ticking away).

CS – Mr. President, are you aware of the number of days it took to begin the investigation into JFK’s assassination?

PBO – If memory serves I believe it was two weeks.

CS – Close. Seventeen days to be exact. Are you aware sir, how long it took to begin the investigation into Pearl Harbor?

PBO – I would say again about….two weeks.

CS – Close again sir, eleven days to be exact. Are you aware Mr. President how long it took to begin the investigation into 9/11?

PBO – I know it must have seemed like a very long time for all the grieving families.

CS – It was a very long time Mr. President – four hundred and forty days. Roughly 14 months. Does it bother you Mr. President that it only took FIVE HOURS for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld after the initial attack to recommend and endorse a full scale offensive against Iraq?

PBO – I am not aware of any such purported claim.

CS – I have the proof Mr. President, along with scores of documents and facts I’d like you to take a look at. Here.

(I hand him another file – much thicker than the first)

PBO – I see you came prepared Charlie.

CS – No other way to show up Mr. President. When in doubt over prepare I always say.

PBO – Now you sound like the First Lady.

CS – That’s quite a compliment sir.

PBO – As you wish. Please continue.

CS – Sir, I’d like to direct your attention to the stack of documents in the folder I just handed you. The first in from the top is entitled “Operation Northwoods“, a declassified Pentagon plan to stage terror attacks on US soil, to be blamed on Cuba as a pretext for war.

PBO – And I’d like to direct your attention to the fact that the principle draftsman of this improbable blueprint was quickly denied a second term as Joint Chiefs chairman and sent packing to a European NATO garrison. Thank God his otherworldly ambitions never saw the light of day.

CS – I wouldn’t be so certain about that Mr. President.

PBO – I could easily say the same to you Charlie.

(the President checks his watch)

CS – The next document reads “Declassified staged provocations.” Now, Honestly Mr. President I wish I was making this stuff up. I’m certain you are familiar with the USS Maine Incident, the sinking of the Lusitania, which we all now know brought us into WW1, and of course the most famous, the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

PBO – Of course I am familiar with these historical events and I’m aware that there’s a measure of controversy surrounding them. But to be quite frank with you, this is all ancient history.

CS – Mr. President, it has been often said; “Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.” And I concede to you sir, these events are the past.

PBO – A vastly different world young man, shouldering a radically disparate state of universal affairs.

CS – No argument sir, I’m merely inviting you to acknowledge some credibility to the pattern or the theme. Case in point; the next document in your folder. It was published by the think-tank, Project For a New American Century and it’s entitled “Rebuilding Americas Defenses“, and was written by Dick Cheney and Jeb Bush. To quote from the document sir – (the President interrupts)

PBO – “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”

CS – Touche, sir. Your thoughts on this statement Mr. President?

PBO – I would call this a blatant case of misjudgment fueled by an unfortunate milieu of assumption. For some, the uninformed denial of coincidence.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t


CS – Interesting angle sir. Nevertheless, Vice President Cheney didn’t stop there. In early 2008, Pulitzer prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh and MSNBC, both reported that Cheney had proposed to the Pentagon an outrageous plan to have the U.S. Navy create fake Iranian patrol boats, to be manned by Navy Seals, who would then stage an attack on US destroyers in the Strait of Hormuz. This event was to be blamed on Iran and used as a pretext for war. Does any of this information worry you Mr. President? Should we just ignore it, until these realities can be dismissed years from now by our children, as ancient history as well?

PBO – Of course this information worries me, yet it’s not nearly as worrisome as you sitting here today suspiciously implying that 9/11 was somehow allowed to happen or even orchestrated from the inside.

CS – Mr. President I am not suspiciously implying anything. I am merely exposing the documents and asking the questions that nobody in power will even look at or acknowledge. And as I stated earlier, I voted for you, I believed in your message of hope and change. Mr. President I have come to you specifically hoping for a change. A change in the perception that our government has not yet made itself open and accountable to the people. These are your words Mr. President not mine. The lives of thousands were brutally cut short and those left behind to suffer their infinite pain are with me today Mr. President. They are with me in spirit and flesh, and the message we carry will not be silenced anymore by media fueled mantras insisting how they are supposed to feel. Deciding for them, for 8 long years, what can be thought, what can be said, what can be asked.

PBO – And I appreciate your passion, I appreciate your conviction. In spite of your concerns, in spite of what your data might or might not reveal, what you and the families must understand and accept is that we are doing everything we can to protect you.

CS – Mr. President , I realize were very short on time, so please allow me to run down a list of bullet points that might illuminate some reasons why we don’t embrace the warm hug of Federal protection.

PBO – We’ve come this far. Fire away.

CS – Please keep in mind Mr. President everything I’m about to say is documented as fact and part of the public record. The information you are holding in your hands chronicles and verifies each and every point.

PBO – You have five minutes left. The floor is yours. Brief me.

CS – Thank you Mr. President. Okay, first; On the FBI’s most wanted list Osama Bin Laden is not charged with the crimes of 911. When I called the FBI to ask them why this was the case, they replied: “There’s not enough evidence to link Bin Laden to the crime scene,” I later discovered he had never even been indicted by the D.O.J.

CS – Number 2; FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, was dismissed and gagged by the D.O.J. after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001. In July of ‘09, Mrs. Edmonds broke the Federal gag order and went public to reveal that Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were all working for and with the C.I.A. up until the day of 9/11.

CS – Number 3; The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

CS – Number 4; In April 2004, USA Today reported, “In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.” One of the targets was the World Trade Center.

CS – Number 5; On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360′, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.

Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

CS – Number 6; Three F-16s assigned to Andrews Air Force Base, ten miles from Washington, DC, are conducting training exercises in North Carolina 207 miles away as the first plane crashes into the WTC. Even at significantly less than their top speed of 1500 mph, they could still have defended the skies over Washington well before 9am, more than 37 minutes before Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon, however, they did not return until after 9:55am.

Andrews AFB had no armed fighters on alert and ready to take off on the morning of 9/11.

CS – Number 7; WTC Building 7. Watch the video of its collapse.

CS – Number 8; Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. V.P. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

Fueling further suspicion on this front is the fact that three months before the attacks of 9/11, Dick Cheney usurped control of NORAD, and therefore he, and no one else on planet Earth, had the power to call for military sorties on the hijacked airliners on 9/11. He did not exercise that power. Three months after 9/11, he relinquished command of NORAD and returned it to military operation.

CS – Number 9; Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified.

CS – Number 10; In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center, but were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone.

As the Philadelphia Daily News reported at the time, “Their story raises the question of whether there was a some type of cover-up at Ground Zero.”

CS – Number 11 – Hundreds of eye witnesses including first responders, fire captains, news reporters, and police, all described multiple explosions in both towers before and during the collapse.

CS – Number 12; An astounding video uncovered from the archives shows BBC News correspondent Jane Standley reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. Tapes from earlier BBC broadcasts show news anchors discussing the collapse of WTC 7 a full 26 minutes in advance. The BBC at first claimed that their tapes from 9/11 had been “lost” before admitting that they made the “error” of reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it happened without adequately explaining how they could have obtained advance knowledge of the event.

In addition, over an hour before the collapse of WTC 7, at 4:10pm, CNN’s Aaron Brown reported that the building “has either collapsed, or is collapsing.”

CS – Number 13; Solicitor General Ted Olson’s claim that his wife Barbara Olsen called him twice from Flight 77, describing hijackers with box cutters, was a central plank of the official 9/11 story.

However, the credibility of the story was completely undermined after Olsen kept changing his story about whether his wife used her cell phone or the airplane phone. The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. American Airlines confirmed that Flight 77 was a Boeing 757 and that this plane did not have airplane phones on board.

According to the FBI, Barbara Olsen attempted to call her husband only once and the call failed to connect, therefore Olsen must have been lying when he claimed he had spoken to his wife from Flight 77.

CS – Number 14; The size of a Boeing 757 is approximately 125ft in width and yet images of the impact zone at the Pentagon supposedly caused by the crash merely show a hole no more than 16ft in diameter. The engines of the 757 would have punctured a hole bigger than this, never mind the whole plane. Images before the partial collapse of the impact zone show little real impact damage and a sparse debris field completely inconsistent with the crash of a large jetliner, especially when contrasted with other images showing airplane crashes into buildings.

CS – Number 15; What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by then Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, “The plane is 50 miles out.” “The plane is 30 miles out.” And when it got down to “the plane is 10 miles out,” the young man also said to the Vice President, “Do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?”

As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated, are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

CS – Number 16; In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to “avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report,” particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.

CS – Number 17; Top Pentagon officials cancelled their scheduled flights for September 11th on September 10th. San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, following a security warning, cancelled a flight into New York that was scheduled for the morning of 9/11.

CS – Number 18; The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004, and even by that point it was only in the trial phase. Calls from cell phones which formed an integral part of the official government version of events were technologically impossible at the time.

CS – Number 19: On April 29, 2004, President Bush and V.P. Cheney would only meet with the commission under specific clandestine conditions. They insisted on testifying together and not under oath. They also demanded that their testimony be treated as a matter of “state secret.” To date, nothing they spoke of that day exists in the public domain.

CS – And finally Mr. President – Number 20; A few days after the attack, several newspapers as well as the FBI reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC. In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah’s visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

At least a third of the WTC victim’s bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

(The Senior aide appears again beside the President whispering in his ear. He then quickly moves off).

PBO – Well Charlie I can’t say this hasn’t been interesting. As I said earlier you’ve showed up today focused and organized. Regardless how I feel about the material you’ve presented, I must commend your dedication and zeal. However, our time here is up.

(the President rises from his chair , I do the same).

CS – Mr. President! One more second!

(The President starts towards the door – I follow him quickly step for step).

CS – Mr. President, I implore you based on the evidence you now possess, to use your Executive Power. Prove to us all Sir, that you do, in fact, care. Create a truly comprehensive and open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath. The families deserve the truth, the American people and the rest of the free world deserve the truth. Mr. President -

(He pauses. We shake hands).

CS – Make sure your on the right side of history.

(The President breaks the handshake).

PBO – I am on the right side of history. Thank you Charlie, my staff and I will be in touch.

(I watch as he strides gracefully out of the room, the truth I provided him held firmly by his side; in the hand of providence.)

What an excellent article!  Bump and Bump again!

Thanks for finally framing for us, OUR "talking points"
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mr anderson on September 09, 2009, 12:30:00 am
forgive my brashness in communication, but WTF, it is a simple piece of satire. we are all humans who are using human spirit and free will to expose the truth about 911 any way we can.

you would have chosen a different tactic, fine. Charlie didn't. We should either be helping to distribute the awesome piece of American literature or not. Creating some ISO 9000 protocol for distributing information is completely back asswords IMO.

If you do not like the way it was hyped, just listen to Flavor Flav's advice for future hyped stuff. I am fairly confident AJ weighed this and we still do not know if there is more to come.
Are we to believe the dumbed down public to understand this as satire when they don't even get basic science?

Who's Flavor Flav?  :)  ???
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: luckee1 on September 09, 2009, 12:31:07 am
http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=charlie+sheen

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/09/08/charlie-sheens-911-conspiracy-interview-with-obama

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/charlie-sheen-requests-meeting-obama-9-11-cover-fake
vs

http://www.examiner.com/x-9341-Manhattan-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Alex-Jones-publishes-fake-interview-of-President-Obama-with-Charlie-Sheen

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread499423/pg1

http://gawker.com/5354916/charlie-sheens-fantasy-911-truther-grilling-of-the-president

or check out all the links at
http://www.ask.com/web?o=10605&l=dis&gct=&gc=&q=sheen%20obama%20letter%20911&qsrc=2873&inttb=1

this morning there were only 4  links one of which, was from years ago.  evidently it has caused a stir.

But for future reference, Alex sure could use a message that the people who tune into him, need not be done this way again.  Some of had stayed up til 3:30 a.m because of his RED ALERT (You tube took down videos....again).  Why would we take him seriously if he is so given to alarmist behavior or 'satire'?

Personally I could give two shits about Sheen.  I had no respect for him as I was stationed in Norfolk, VA.  When they was filming Navy Seals his drunk ass would not show on time and because of that the real military guys were delayed form going home because they certainly couldn't get work done while they were filming and had to wait til all the actors were gone.  So I had no respect for him.

When I was reading the article this morning, yes every line, I was duly impressed because the man finally sobered up for real.  And then he not only presented this to the president, he took a hard line about it.  At the end of the "article" I was jazzed for that reason and because I found that the president having evidence in hand would be required to get this taken care of or be openly complicit.  We were going somewhere!

Oh.... Psyche!

I am very jealous of my time.  I don't have time for carnivals like this.  I did like the show often because of the immediate availability of information. For instance, the troops being used for military check points in Tennessee.  I had been listening on that day live.  We in Tennessee raised an uproar to stop that.  That is what we are supposed to be doing, not reading some fantasty based article.

This little mind game was directed at whom?  We were used.  BUT  I think for those of us who are pissed about the way this was handled (exceptional writing notwithstanding) we should get T-shirts that say "I was punq'd" with infowars logo.  When we get handed lemons let us turn it into lemonade. ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 09, 2009, 12:31:28 am
but there was no disclaimer ;)


Not yet there isn't but doesn't it have like 3 hours,granted it was posted last year but I'm going to wait just the same  :D

Anyway just to repeat after my bitching and belly aching,the content of the piece was brilliant,and I really did feel like I was there during the interview,fictitious or not,that is what I felt and that is something I think all writers want to achieve and something else I am slowly starting to realize is this might be something we will see more of in the future.

I suppose this is kind of my disclaimer of sorts  :D (OK no more of that sort of thing)  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Valerius on September 09, 2009, 12:33:16 am
George Noory talked about it tonight-- sorry if someone already mentioned it...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Subliminal_Cowboy on September 09, 2009, 12:34:14 am
Naysayers to the sensational Sheen letter, is this who "betrayed" you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwErcWaRXkc&NR=1

Did Charlie Sheen betray you?

NO.

They are standing with us against the greatest threat the world has ever faced. Take this article as a blessing, of pure genius from the minds of Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: el midgetron on September 09, 2009, 12:51:55 am
see how cool it is? now you are catching on. But instead of just using this form of satire to attack a brave person in the truth movement without any exposure of the facts of 9/11, you could use it for a positive effect that exposes the psychopaths that committed this heinous crime. I mean, not for nothing but you just did a hitpiece that adds no value wheras by Chuckie dropping the undebunkable questions, he allows the satire to expose truth.


Laughter without a tinge of philosophy is but a sneeze of humor. Genuine humor is replete with wisdom.
- quoted in Mark Twain and I, Opie Read

 I wasn't trying to attack anyone. I gave Sheen a shout-out for his courage and thanked him for being the first "celebrity" to break their silence. I did poke some fun at him but I love the Sheen. The Sheen is the man. I don't even disagree with his letter. I think his letter is swell! However, I think its delivery was screwed up. Its honest criticism any art student could indentify with, I am not attacking anyone by it.

No one can lay golden eggs all the time and the best laid plans can go a-foul.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheQ on September 09, 2009, 12:58:23 am
I think that Alex Jones has lost the plot. First he does that Joker stunt and now he perpetrates a HOAX on his LOYAL FANS???

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU ALEX??? ARE YOU SANE, MAN?

I swear some of you are dumber than dirt

Quick, someone call the WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE for this guy!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 09, 2009, 01:12:48 am
Ohh no... please dont do that.  :-[ The truth within it was spot on... lets just go over that and not ban. Maybe they just dont know.. hell I dont know enough of it all to fight my way out of a paper bag! If I were dismissed out of hand when I was questioning or dissenting, Id have NEVER woken up to the little extent I feel I am now!

maybe it's your darling little green man avatar, but I have felt alot of sympathy with all your posts...and a real desire to figure this sh*t out...so thanks for hanging in there and staying human and feelin this thing all the way. I salute you!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Phil R. on September 09, 2009, 01:15:24 am
So...is this simply a one-time lead in for a big truth extravaganza or will this be a recurring theme for future revelations? I haven't had a chance to listen to the show today.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 09, 2009, 01:15:54 am
So...is this simply a one-time lead in for a big truth extravaganza or will this be a recurring theme for future revelations? I haven't had a chance to listen to the show today.

yes
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Beefcake on September 09, 2009, 01:28:16 am
For whats its worth the main thread on the story at Above top Secret has changed the heading to (hoax) or (accident) from just plain Hoax.

This is a good thing imo as i believe it was a screw up bt one of AJ's staff that cause dthe disclaimer to be delayed in some way.

The Site owner is apparently trying to contact AJ or people close to him to get the full story.  I definately don't think this was a Hoax.  A 1hr 30 minute Hoax sounds just stupid.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: codemonkey70 on September 09, 2009, 01:40:44 am
maybe it's your darling little green man avatar, but I have felt alot of sympathy with all your posts...and a real desire to figure this sh*t out...so thanks for hanging in there and staying human and feelin this thing all the way. I salute you!

Thanks Deconstruct :) I was hoping I didnt come off as an ass. I at least TRY to balance the asshattery along with feeding the good dog!  :D

This is just a difficult subject all around..we have to accept that there will be passionate responses to things. I never saw this as a "fan site"... I hope it never devolves into one.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheQ on September 09, 2009, 01:50:03 am
For whats its worth the main thread on the story at Above top Secret has changed the heading to (hoax) or (accident) from just plain Hoax.

This is a good thing imo as i believe it was a screw up bt one of AJ's staff that cause dthe disclaimer to be delayed in some way.

The Site owner is apparently trying to contact AJ or people close to him to get the full story.  I definately don't think this was a Hoax.  A 1hr 30 minute Hoax sounds just stupid.

more like 30 to 40 min....  the 90 min is disinfo..
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: spangler on September 09, 2009, 01:55:11 am
For whats its worth the main thread on the story at Above top Secret has changed the heading to (hoax) or (accident) from just plain Hoax.

This is a good thing imo as i believe it was a screw up bt one of AJ's staff that cause dthe disclaimer to be delayed in some way.

The Site owner is apparently trying to contact AJ or people close to him to get the full story.  I definately don't think this was a Hoax.  A 1hr 30 minute Hoax sounds just stupid.

I don't know about the "main thread" but the one Rense links to on his site still has the same title.

 I don't think it was a hoax either. The only thing AJ's guilty of is exaggerated hype imo. The real story is the fact that Charlie Sheen's put his name to a compelling series of weaknesses in the official 9/11 conspiracy theory. I have  yellow light beside the Pentagon part (Number 14) mind you. I think the best tact there is to ask why the government won't release the video footage of the object that struck the Pentagon, and why anything struck the Pentagon at all.

I doubt AJ would be reckless enough to perpetrate such a transparent fraud as the one some people are alleging here. The technical explanation seems reasonable to me. I've seen WordPress blogs with jumbled up text.

After all AJ's done for us it seems to me we should give him the benefit of the doubt whenever we can.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: agentbluescreen on September 09, 2009, 02:28:28 am
This is pure example of political satire  it is satirical imitation or "parody" intended as a mockery of the obvious biases of the so-called "investigative" corporate-fascist MSM.

 It is a pure work of satirical lampoon, mockery and ridicule, which is perfectly acceptable and ideally suited to the task of enlightening readers. 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: hal 9000 on September 09, 2009, 02:41:07 am
Since I know intuitively that he is reading this forum, I give Charlie Sheen much credit for this initiative. Alex Jones also. Sheen will be in the next Oliver Stone movie "Wall Street 2: Money Never Sleeps". I know that Stone has to be aware of all the 9/11 anomalies. C'mon Charlie - get him to go on the record with his questions about this false flag/black op....
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: troopc4 on September 09, 2009, 03:47:02 am
Firstly, I commend Charlie Sheen for directing those questions at PBO.  I dont neccessarily agree with the fact that Charlie Sheen answered the questions, and I think that this is what some people are having a problem with.  But dont lose sight that Charlie Sheen is an influential activist making this risky move.  I wish there were more like him and for those so-called followers of the truth, dissing Alex & Charlie, shame on you.  I wonder what you are doing for the movement.  You're probably one of those coffee shop revolutionaries debating about who's right & who's wrong, who's better & who's on or off point within the movement.  Remember, they are doing it.  What are you doing?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mr anderson on September 09, 2009, 03:53:11 am
For whats its worth the main thread on the story at Above top Secret has changed the heading to (hoax) or (accident) from just plain Hoax.

This is a good thing imo as i believe it was a screw up bt one of AJ's staff that cause dthe disclaimer to be delayed in some way.

The Site owner is apparently trying to contact AJ or people close to him to get the full story.  I definately don't think this was a Hoax.  A 1hr 30 minute Hoax sounds just stupid.
No real loss there... ATS Forum  :D

I re-read the post and overall it's good except for:

Quote
CS – Number 14 (http://www.prisonplanet.com/20_minutes_bibliography.html#briefing14); The size of a Boeing 757 is approximately 125ft in width and yet images of the impact zone at the Pentagon supposedly caused by the crash merely show a hole no more than 16ft in diameter. The engines of the 757 would have punctured a hole bigger than this, never mind the whole plane. Images before the partial collapse of the impact zone show little real impact damage and a sparse debris field completely inconsistent with the crash of a large jetliner, especially when contrasted with other images showing airplane crashes into buildings.

I don't know about the "main thread" but the one Rense links to on his site still has the same title.

 I don't think it was a hoax either. The only thing AJ's guilty of is exaggerated hype imo. The real story is the fact that Charlie Sheen's put his name to a compelling series of weaknesses in the official 9/11 conspiracy theory. I have  yellow light beside the Pentagon part (Number 14) mind you. I think the best tact there is to ask why the government won't release the video footage of the object that struck the Pentagon, and why anything struck the Pentagon at all.

I doubt AJ would be reckless enough to perpetrate such a transparent fraud as the one some people are alleging here. The technical explanation seems reasonable to me. I've seen WordPress blogs with jumbled up text.

After all AJ's done for us it seems to me we should give him the benefit of the doubt whenever we can.


I understand the mainstream media is falling for it and that's great. I'll see how it pans out.  :)

In the You Tube clips below, Alex Jones explains why Charlie Sheen’s letter was presented as a fictional meeting with the President – to get maximum media exposure for the issues covered therein - http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-awful-truth-the-media-hides-highly-credible-people-question-911.html

I'm still on the fence about how it was represented but the effects are being reverberated throughout the mainstream media. Still is this what we must do to break into the mainstream media each time? Say it's one thing and get exposure?

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mr anderson on September 09, 2009, 04:08:44 am
I'm glad though so far the mainstream media are taking the bait.

Charlie Sheen/Barack Obama fanfic, as written by… Charlie Sheen
http://www.inquisitr.com/36472/charlie-sheenbarack-obama-fanfic-as-written-by-charlie-sheen/
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 09, 2009, 06:33:25 am
Sheen wants White House visit to talk about 9/11
World Entertainment News Network
Sept. 9, 2009, 6:22AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/celebrities/6609335.html

Charlie Sheen has written a letter to President Barack Obama requesting a meeting over Sheen's theories about the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

The day of Sept. 11, 2001, saw America hit by the worst terrorist atrocities in the country's history, including an attack in New York which killed almost 3,000 people when airliners destroyed the World Trade Center.

Sheen has always been outspoken about his views on the attacks, supporting a conspiracy theory that the U.S. government at the time defrauded the public with its official story about the incident.

The star has now written to Obama asking him to reopen the investigation into 9/11.

The note, entitled "20 Minutes With The President," is written as a fictional meeting with Obama, in which Sheen urges the leader to follow through his promises of change, accountability and government transparency by using his powers to look into the actions of George W. Bush's previous administration.

Sheen hopes the president will take note of his campaign and grant him a meeting.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Apolitical Blues on September 09, 2009, 07:07:54 am
fighting fire with fire? do you have any idea what you are talking about?

the truth movement has used satire from day one. satire is a constitutionally protected right of the people and has been used for thousands of years to expose genocidal f**khead elites.

sorry, we will not follow the social architects limited methods to wake people ip to the truth about 9/11.

read the interview, often.

it is a work of art, damn funny too.



Damn, Sane! You'd think, from all this vitriol, you mugged your own mother. WTF?

I'm with you on the interview being a funny work of art. Sheen may not be the active "play" actor he has been in the past, but he most certainly is an active actor in the court of public opinion. I will side, however, with those that voiced the opinion that there should have been a 'satire' tag at the beginning of the piece. Of course from the point of view of those looking for site tally, you guys win, hands down.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Hazenoff on September 09, 2009, 09:28:20 am
Anyone else notice, that all of the websites, prisonplanet, and infowars, have their comments turned off, after we were duped into thinking that the 20 minutes with Obama was a real event, before we got a chance to read the... this never happened... at the bottom of the page? Alex went on for a good 90 minutes the other day, acting as if Charlie Sheen was the savior of the 9/11 patriot movement, when the interview never happened.
Now, everyone seems to want to call him out on it, and they have effectively had their voices silenced.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: donnay on September 09, 2009, 09:56:12 am
Anyone else notice, that all of the websites, prisonplanet, and infowars, have their comments turned off, after we were duped into thinking that the 20 minutes with Obama was a real event, before we got a chance to read the... this never happened... at the bottom of the page? Alex went on for a good 90 minutes the other day, acting as if Charlie Sheen was the savior of the 9/11 patriot movement, when the interview never happened.
Now, everyone seems to want to call him out on it, and they have effectively had their voices silenced.

Donate about $40,000 to Alex and you may comment--that's his cost for bandwidth.  ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 09, 2009, 10:06:41 am
I never thought the infowars crowd, the awaken people, would react so negatively to such an attempt at trying to force the main stream media to react. After all, aren't the media the main reason why your country is torturing people and killing millions? It sure wouldn't happen without all the brainwashing and propaganda.

A personal letter from a well known actor to the president about 9/11 is a big deal, not in terms of info, but in terms of attracting people to the infowars. People may hear about it only in a few weeks, but they still will. And we'll get to see the mainstream media spin that one off and dig their grave again.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: gEEk squad on September 09, 2009, 10:58:21 am
Anyone else notice, that all of the websites, prisonplanet, and infowars, have their comments turned off, after we were duped into thinking that the 20 minutes with Obama was a real event, before we got a chance to read the... this never happened... at the bottom of the page? Alex went on for a good 90 minutes the other day, acting as if Charlie Sheen was the savior of the 9/11 patriot movement, when the interview never happened.
Now, everyone seems to want to call him out on it, and they have effectively had their voices silenced.

Who told you it was real? No one but you did. Does The Onion have a disclaimer before its articles? Do sitcom's have disclaimers before each show?

Please show me where AJ or Sheen said that he had actually met with Obama. You won't find it, except inside your head because you and others wanted it to be real.

It is funny that the only people I've seen complaining about it being "fake" or a "hoax" are people who call themselves "truthers."

The people I sent it to who normally wouldn't touch 9/11 truth liked it and looked at the 20 points afterwards. That's the point of the conversation.

Get over yourself, please.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: freedom7 on September 09, 2009, 10:59:00 am
What a horrible joke. Im really pissed about this stunt. To hype this for a week just to post a mock interview. Im about done with AJ enough is enough. I can handle talking over guests, yelling and not letting people speak who have opposing views but this is to far. There are so many other quality broadcasters no need to waste time on this one. Its a shame to cus I really enjoyed his show and meeting him.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 09, 2009, 11:02:03 am
What a horrible joke. Im really pissed about this stunt. To hype this for a week just to post a mock interview. Im about done with AJ enough is enough. I can handle talking over guests, yelling and not letting people speak who have opposing views but this is to far. There are so many other quality broadcasters no need to waste time on this one. Its a shame to cus I really enjoyed his show and meeting him.

I'm overly surprised by the amount of people who didn't get the irony. Does fluoride really works that well or you guys just never read political texts from the great writers?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: IridiumKEPfactor on September 09, 2009, 11:09:17 am
Anyone else notice, that all of the websites, prisonplanet, and infowars, have their comments turned off, after we were duped into thinking that the 20 minutes with Obama was a real event, before we got a chance to read the... this never happened... at the bottom of the page? Alex went on for a good 90 minutes the other day, acting as if Charlie Sheen was the savior of the 9/11 patriot movement, when the interview never happened.
Now, everyone seems to want to call him out on it, and they have effectively had their voices silenced.

It was because the site was getting hammered with over 1 million people on at the same time.    ::)    That is why. He had to turn off the read and write feature, and just do read. It had nothing to do with censorship. Alex just addressed this and he addressed it yesterday during the show.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: xfahctor on September 09, 2009, 11:14:09 am
 I am going to say the same thing I said in another thread on this subject....did NO ONE look at the very premise of this....Charlie Sheen granted an interview with the President.....and know with out even reading the thing that it was a farce? I think Alex was counting on his listeners to realize that from the get go....if he did actually think people would believe it before he told everyone it was a fake, he can't have a very high opinion of his listeners can he.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 11:15:40 am
What a horrible joke. Im really pissed about this stunt. To hype this for a week just to post a mock interview. Im about done with AJ enough is enough. I can handle talking over guests, yelling and not letting people speak who have opposing views but this is to far. There are so many other quality broadcasters no need to waste time on this one. Its a shame to cus I really enjoyed his show and meeting him.

Hey, am I the only one who has noticed the overly obvious talking point...

"I'm done with AJ, enough is enough"

I guess these moronic musings work against some less than stellar people in the truth movement.  Sorry to this member when I say, all it does in this movement is reveal that there is an obvious sophmoric troll agenda from people who are scared shitless about 9/11 truth geting even more recognition.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 09, 2009, 11:15:55 am
I'm overly surprised by the amount of people who didn't get the irony. Does fluoride really works that well or you guys just never read political texts from the great writers?

I think you are confused about the term "irony"

There is nothing "Ironic" about a massive misleading publicity stunt which undermines a politic movement.

Well I guess in the eyes of the mainstream media it is Ironic that Alex would write his own hit piece, during the height of his career.

Fortunately Alex has said that this "Tuesday Charlie Sheen Faux interview" is not the huge announcement, it is just a part of something bigger, and we will be seeing this incredible event unfold before our eyes during this week. This massive blow to the mainstream media, bigger then ANYTHING that alex has EVER DONE IN 15 YEARS IN RADIO WILL BE UPON US SOON!!

I am joking of course, I know he doesn't have anything up his sleeve, his big guest for Thursday and Friday is washed up actor Charlie Sheen again so there is absolutely no reason for me to pay attention to the events which will unfold on his radio show.

Infact, I rather not waste my time with fake hype, underwhelming articles, religious preaching, childish screaming, and intolerance towards listeners calls in.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sharpsteve on September 09, 2009, 11:16:34 am
To all the negative complainers

Would you care for some cheese to go with your whine? That or we need to pass out pacifiers for all the crybabys. Whaa F'ing Whaa!!!

It's called marketing and it is working.  ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 11:17:35 am
I am going to say the same thing I said in another thread on this subject....did NO ONE look at the very premise of this....Charlie Sheen granted an interview with the President.....and know with out even reading the thing that it was a farce? I think Alex was counting on his listeners to realize that from the get go....if he did actually think people would believe it before he told everyone it was a fake, he can't have a very high opinion of his listeners can he.

just read the dang thing, it is a work of art and respects the victims, the families, the truthers, and even the public servants stuck in a position they feel they cannot get out of.

Brilliancem sheer brilliance.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 11:18:40 am
I think you are confused about the term "irony"

There is nothing "Ironic" about a massive misleading publicity stunt which undermines a politic movement.

Well I guess in the eyes of the mainstream media it is Ironic that Alex would write his own hit piece, during the height of his career.

Fortunately Alex has said that this "Tuesday Charlie Sheen Faux interview" is not the huge announcement, it is just a part of something bigger, and we will be seeing this incredible event unfold before our eyes during this week. This massive blow to the mainstream media, bigger then ANYTHING that alex has EVER DONE IN 15 YEARS IN RADIO WILL BE UPON US SOON!!

I am joking of course, I know he doesn't have anything up his sleeve, his big guest for Thursday and Friday is washed up actor Charlie Sheen again so there is absolutely no reason for me to pay attention to the events which will unfold on his radio show.

Infact, I rather not waste my time with fake hype, underwhelming articles, religious preaching, childish screaming, and intolerance towards listeners calls in.


lookie like roadrunner got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

do you need your blankie?

did someone steal your icecream?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dan on September 09, 2009, 11:23:02 am
how excited did you all get while reading this "interview" until you found out it was a mock interview?  This is a good tactic to rekindle the flames of freedom and truth in those who have been lulled into a false sense of security with Obama.  This will start asking the questions to Obama of why he will not talk about it with Sheen or anyone else.  Bush lied to us all, yet he lied to our faces.  He didn't refuse to talk at all with the victims.  (Both bad and not one worse than the other except that he acknowledged that he was going to lie, Obama refuses to even commit to that...kinda like his voting record in the Sentate).  

This will light the fires again and the information provided, if presented in an organized manner, will be a great focal point to present to the people on the streets.  It also shows that Sheen is getting closer to being an active member of the truth community instead of standing on the side lines watching and praying we succeed.

IMO...kudos and keep it up.

Dan
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 09, 2009, 11:23:52 am

lookie like roadrunner got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

do you need your blankie?

did someone steal your icecream?

Aww, how cute, you know how to be condescending.

What other childish tricks do you know?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: xfahctor on September 09, 2009, 11:24:23 am
just read the dang thing, it is a work of art and respects the victims, the families, the truthers, and even the public servants stuck in a position they feel they cannot get out of.

Brilliancem sheer brilliance.
I read the interview, it was a well written piece, I wasn't taking issue with it at all in fact.
 My only point was why the controvesry over it? Did anybody really believe for one second that the  President  had granted Charlie Sheen an interview? Seriously....did they? I sincerely hope not, it puts a knot in my gut to think the patriot movement would have people in any real numbers who would be that gullable. Jones may just as well have said "the president granted an interview to an alien", this had the same level of believability, to me, it was clearly a ficitional scneario, brilliant, but ficticious.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 09, 2009, 11:24:36 am
I think you are confused about the term "irony"

There is nothing "Ironic" about a massive misleading publicity stunt which undermines a politic movement.

Well I guess in the eyes of the mainstream media it is Ironic that Alex would write his own hit piece, during the height of his career.

Fortunately Alex has said that this "Tuesday Charlie Sheen Faux interview" is not the huge announcement, it is just a part of something bigger, and we will be seeing this incredible event unfold before our eyes during this week. This massive blow to the mainstream media, bigger then ANYTHING that alex has EVER DONE IN 15 YEARS IN RADIO WILL BE UPON US SOON!!

I am joking of course, I know he doesn't have anything up his sleeve, his big guest for Thursday and Friday is washed up actor Charlie Sheen again so there is absolutely no reason for me to pay attention to the events which will unfold on his radio show.

Infact, I rather not waste my time with fake hype, underwhelming articles, religious preaching, childish screaming, and intolerance towards listeners calls in.

(http://images.parenthood.com/binkie.gif)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: eagle74 on September 09, 2009, 11:25:11 am
The only outrage here is the unanswered univestigated 20 bullet points!!

 Considering the full court press attack on CS and Alex that convinces me this letter was really a great idea...the ful impact of which has just begun.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 09, 2009, 11:27:38 am
I would'nt mind if the disclaimer wasn't there on purpose anyway,
i'm back on board,
a masterful piece of writing indeed,
Sup?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 09, 2009, 11:27:54 am
(http://images.parenthood.com/binkie.gif)

You and Sane need get together, your both on the same level of childish rebuttals.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: gEEk squad on September 09, 2009, 11:28:09 am
I think you are confused about the term "irony"

There is nothing "Ironic" about a massive misleading publicity stunt which undermines a politic movement.

Well I guess in the eyes of the mainstream media it is Ironic that Alex would write his own hit piece, during the height of his career.

Fortunately Alex has said that this "Tuesday Charlie Sheen Faux interview" is not the huge announcement, it is just a part of something bigger, and we will be seeing this incredible event unfold before our eyes during this week. This massive blow to the mainstream media, bigger then ANYTHING that alex has EVER DONE IN 15 YEARS IN RADIO WILL BE UPON US SOON!!

I am joking of course, I know he doesn't have anything up his sleeve, his big guest for Thursday and Friday is washed up actor Charlie Sheen again so there is absolutely no reason for me to pay attention to the events which will unfold on his radio show.

Infact, I rather not waste my time with fake hype, underwhelming articles, religious preaching, childish screaming, and intolerance towards listeners calls in.

It sounds like you treat this as a religious movement, which it is not. AJ isn't some messianic leader going to lead us out of the bondage of 1000's of years of being ruled by a few oligarchs. It is up to you and me to be leaders in order to even have a chance for that to happen. Being a follower isn't an option if you want change.

The only people calling this a hit piece are whiny followers like you. I don't know a single person other than disgruntled people in this movement who view it as that.

As for Sheen being a "washed up actor," you couldn't be more mistaken. He has the #1 comedy on television. Millions of people will now look at 9/11 truth who normally wouldn't. That's the whole point. It is about trying something different to get a new segment of people to question the perceived reality.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: EvadingGrid on September 09, 2009, 11:29:15 am
This thread is great for exposing those who are acting on behalf of cointel.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: xfahctor on September 09, 2009, 11:29:30 am
 Ok, someone PLEASE restore my faith in this movement and tell me they DIDN'T believe for one second BEFORE reading the disclaimer that this was at all real.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: EvadingGrid on September 09, 2009, 11:30:00 am
You and Sane need get together, your both on the same level of childish rebuttals.

How is life in Langley ?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 09, 2009, 11:30:38 am
Ok, someone PLEASE restore my faith in this movement and tell me they DIDN'T believe for one second BEFORE reading the disclaimer that this was at all real.
I was right there with Barry an Charlie dude, i was sold.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruthShallSetYouFree on September 09, 2009, 11:31:11 am
Alex is now saying that this is all the fault of Wordpress. Come again?

1) They could post 16 pages of text but couldn't post a single line of disclaimer at the beginning of it?

2) Alex is constantly bragging about how he delivers terrabytes of data and how he has a CDN and yet he can't deliver comments and images on his site?!?

Does Alex think that we're that stupid? The guy's a liar and can't come clean.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: gEEk squad on September 09, 2009, 11:31:21 am
Ok, someone PLEASE restore my faith in this movement and tell me they DIDN'T believe for one second BEFORE reading the disclaimer that this was at all real.

I questioned it about half way through. It definitely read like a hollywood script. Didn't have the time to put much thought into it because I had to get to work. I was hoping it was true but wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 09, 2009, 11:32:13 am
Alex is now saying that this is all the fault of Wordpress. Come again?

1) They could post 16 pages of text but couldn't post a single line of disclaimer at the beginning of it?

2) Alex is constantly bragging about how he delivers terrabytes of data and how he has a CDN and yet he can't deliver comments and images on his site?!?

Does Alex think that we're that stupid? The guy's a liar and can't come clean.



Shit i hope he did do it on purpose!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dan on September 09, 2009, 11:32:43 am
still talking

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/screws_loose_Geo3Wya43KUtJCRuTkZwIO

http://www.doomdaily.com/2009/the-alex-jones-show-%E2%80%93-l-i-v-e-%E2%80%93-september-8th-charlie-sheen%E2%80%99s-letter-to-the-president/

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/09/09/charlie_sheen_writes_to_president_obama_

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2153837/charlie_sheen_requests_meeting_with.html

Dan
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: xfahctor on September 09, 2009, 11:32:48 am
 :o
I think I'm gonna cry.......
I still love ya guys.....but I'm gonna cry.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: EvadingGrid on September 09, 2009, 11:33:33 am
Alex is now saying that this is all the fault of Wordpress. Come again?

1) They could post 16 pages of text but couldn't post a single line of disclaimer at the beginning of it?

2) Alex is constantly bragging about how he delivers terrabytes of data and how he has a CDN and yet he can't deliver comments and images on his site?!?

Does Alex think that we're that stupid? The guy's a liar and can't come clean.



hahah

just because you can install an app, does not make you a unix server guru.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruthShallSetYouFree on September 09, 2009, 11:34:35 am
This thread is great for exposing those who are acting on behalf of cointel.

Does cointel lie to his followers as well?  ;D Does cointel purport hoaxes on their agents?  :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: gEEk squad on September 09, 2009, 11:34:39 am
Alex is now saying that this is all the fault of Wordpress. Come again?

1) They could post 16 pages of text but couldn't post a single line of disclaimer at the beginning of it?

2) Alex is constantly bragging about how he delivers terrabytes of data and how he has a CDN and yet he can't deliver comments and images on his site?!?

Does Alex think that we're that stupid? The guy's a liar and can't come clean.



1. It was more than just the disclaimer that didn't load and it was meant to be put on the bottom, not at the top.

2. That's a completely misleading statement first of all. There was a huge spike in traffic right after 8am. I couldn't load infowars until well after noon and had to listen to the show by going to gcnlive.com because neither of the main streams would work for me.

If you call someone a liar you should at least not lie yourself.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 09, 2009, 11:38:32 am
Quote
Charlie Sheen Has Gone Cuckoo Bananas

Actor Charlie Sheen wrote a fantasy interview with the President of the United States, Barack Obama at wacky taffy conspiracist Alex Jones' site.

Wow. Where do we begin? In his fantasy interview, he asks for 30-minutes and "they said I could have 20."

For the record, our fantasy interview with POTUS - at least an hour. Possibly 90-minutes.

So in this 20-minute interview Sheen gets out a nearly 4000-word diatribe about 9/11 cover-ups etc. Total fantasy that many words can fit into 20-minutes. Now we have our own conspiracy.

Anyway, the POTUS compliments Sheen on his show. "I have it Tivo'd on Air Force One. Nice break from the traveling press corps."

He really captured the voice of Barack Obama there.

The thing that is so creepy about this fictional inquiry is that it's told like it really happened and then at the end there is a little disclaimer saying that it hasn't happened yet. But by all the comments, no one actually saw the disclaimer.


Because they already BELIEVE ANYTHING. Why not 4000-words in a 20-minute interview?

Even the awkward POTUS saying he has to go at the end is weird and self-congratulatory:

    PBO - Well Charlie I can't say this hasn't been interesting. As I said earlier you've showed up today focused and organized. Regardless how I feel about the material you've presented, I must commend your dedication and zeal. However, our time here is up.

    (the President rises from his chair , I do the same).

Who's Sheen's publicist?!
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/show_business/charlie_sheen_has_gone_cuckoo_bananas_130581.asp

Quote
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b143190_charlie_sheen_truther_teaches_obama.html
Charlie Sheen the Truther Teaches Obama About 9/11

Someone has clearly been in sitcoms too long: Give him a half-hour (minus commercial breaks) and there's no problem Chuck Sheen can't solve.

The Two and a Half Men star has loosed upon the Internet "Twenty Minutes with the President," an incredible piece of fantasy journalism (or a failed treatment from his dad's West Wing days, we can't be sure) imagining a meeting between himself and President Barack Obama in which Charlie Sheen schools the ruler of the free world about the government's real role in the Sept. 11 attacks—as perceived, that is, by the actor's conspiracy theorist mind.

The very lengthy, very researched and very self-aggrandizing piece (it only takes four lines before Sheen has Obama proclaiming his love of the CBS hit) was published as a transcript of the duo's entirely fabricated encounter—and published online by controversial radio host Alex Jones yesterday. Even more controversially, when the piece first went up, Jones presented it as actually having happened.

Though you'd think it would be easy enough to set up, what with a president in the family and all.

As for the piece, well, if there's one thing Sheen does know it's how to set a dramatic scene:

"I requested 30 minutes given the scope and detail of my inquiry; they said I could have 20. Twenty minutes, 1200 seconds, not a lot of time to question the President about one of the most important events in our nation's history. The following is a transcript of our remarkable discussion."

After exchanging pleasantries about how Obama has Sheen's sitcom "TiVo'd on Air Force One" and fake quips that he's "all ears. Or so I've been told," the Jack Bauer wannabe cuts right to the chase: As an unabashed Truther, Sheen proceeds to interrogate the president on the 9/11 Commission Report and proclaim that the government was actually behind the devastating events of the day and its subsequent alleged cover-up.

"Let's be honest," Sheen says. "You're the President of the United States, the leader of the free world, the buck stops with you. 9/11 has been the pretext for the systematic dismantling of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Your administration is reading from the same playbook that the Bush administration foisted on America through documented secrecy and deception."

And on and on it goes...

Still, the bizarre piece, published in advance of Sheen's two-day appearance on Jones' radio show, while dense with regurgitated conspiracy theories, was not without its lighter moments. Albeit unintentionally.

Take, for instance, the stage direction inserted during a particularly tense discussion: "An odd moment of silence between us. Precious time ticking away."

Or Obama's incredulous response to being grilled by a man who once provided Heidi Fleiss with her main source of income: "Call me crazy, but it appears as though you've blindly wandered off topic." (The Truther most definitely is out there.)

Or even the following interaction:

Obama: I see you came prepared Charlie.
Sheen: No other way to show up Mr. President. When in doubt over prepare I always say.
Obama: Now you sound like the First Lady.
Sheen: That's quite a compliment sir.
Obama: As you wish. Please continue.

Sheen's "transcript," crafted with the intent to get Obama to reopen the investigation into the terror attacks and accept an actual meeting with the actor, ends with him again being flattered by the president (a clear theme) and asking him to "make sure your [sic] on the right side of history."

"Well Charlie I can't say this hasn't been interesting," Obama fake-tells Sheen. That's one word for it.

"As I said earlier, you've showed up today focused and organized. Regardless how I feel about the material you've presented, I must commend your dedication and zeal. However, our time here is up."

And not a moment too soon.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: gEEk squad on September 09, 2009, 11:38:36 am
Does cointel lie to his followers as well?  ;D Does cointel purport hoaxes on their agents?  :D

When did AJ say it was real in the first place? Who puts a disclaimer at the beginning of satirical fiction?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Scootle on September 09, 2009, 11:41:24 am
You and Sane need get together, your both on the same level of childish rebuttals.

(http://www.public.asu.edu/~paulcook/South%20Park%20Goths.jpg)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruthShallSetYouFree on September 09, 2009, 11:44:00 am
When did AJ say it was real in the first place? Who puts a disclaimer at the beginning of satirical fiction?

LOL... what reality are you from? Oh, the one in which Alex Jones cannot tell a lie.

This HOAX has done more damage to our movement than any awareness from the press that he'll get from it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: EvadingGrid on September 09, 2009, 11:44:11 am
When did AJ say it was real in the first place? Who puts a disclaimer at the beginning of satirical fiction?

Truth is these COINTEL TROLLS care not for the content of the article exposing the Official Lies of 911.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruthShallSetYouFree on September 09, 2009, 11:45:27 am
hahah

just because you can install an app, does not make you a unix server guru.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.... what do you think that we're stupid??? I have a Wordpress blog myself! And so do other hundreds of thousands of people. You don't have to know SQUAT about Unix to edit Wordpress! Stop repeating Alex Jones lies!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 09, 2009, 11:45:55 am
It sounds like you treat this as a religious movement, which it is not. AJ isn't some messianic leader going to lead us out of the bondage of 1000's of years of being ruled by a few oligarchs. It is up to you and me to be leaders in order to even have a chance for that to happen. Being a follower isn't an option if you want change.

The only people calling this a hit piece are whiny followers like you. I don't know a single person other than disgruntled people in this movement who view it as that.

As for Sheen being a "washed up actor," you couldn't be more mistaken. He has the #1 comedy on television. Millions of people will now look at 9/11 truth who normally wouldn't. That's the whole point. It is about trying something different to get a new segment of people to question the perceived reality.

First of all, Sane and Route24, read this guys counter argument because he is capable of writing an intelligent reply, without being condescending or resorting to childish/mindless tricks. Perhaps you can learn a thing or two.

Now in response to your argument. I don't see it as a religious movement, nor do I understand why you made that assumption. Nor do I consider Alex Jones to have any considerable effect on the 9/11 Truth movement or the Tea Parties, infact I consider the Obama Deception the last impressive thing he has done. So when he announces the "most impressive thing he has done in 15 years" and I come back to the infowars website, which I typically avoid due to the incredible amount of sensationalism and religious indoctrination attempts, I have high exceptions and I am ready to help Alex on his journey again, like I did during the MoneyBomb.

Unfortunately, when I arrive on Tuesday to this site, I am to realize that this entire hype was centered around an underwhelming article which will never see the light of day on the mainstream media (Van Jones was ignored until his resignation, you think a Charlie Sheen Article has legs? Get real!)

So now I am left with a bitter taste in my mouth. Once again, I am reminded that Alex is a sensationalist who distorts facts for attention, and his credibility is weakened. What facts were distorted? Major hype over a non-article. This article is less impressive then the Thermite in the Steel investigation, and that had no media attention either.

So let me just clarify. It is not that this article was not well written or won't have an effect. It is merely a major disappointment that Alex Jones would hurt his credibility by Crying Wolf when there is barely a Mouse in sight.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruthShallSetYouFree on September 09, 2009, 11:52:12 am
Truth is these COINTEL TROLLS care not for the content of the article exposing the Official Lies of 911.



What a bunch of nonsense!
YOU DON'T USE LIES TO EXPOSE LIES!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 09, 2009, 12:03:42 pm
What a bunch of nonsense!
YOU DON'T USE LIES TO EXPOSE LIES!


lol grow up kid, there is a difference between lies and irony/satire. Charlie Sheen did not tell lies, he used an ironic perspective to tell the truth. Read some political texts from famous writers of the last centuries (including the 20th), this is a writing technique used all over the place.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 09, 2009, 12:05:29 pm
You and Sane need get together, your both on the same level of childish rebuttals.

I just thought you dropped your binkie again and couldn't get out of the playpen to retrieve it.

But thanks for reminding me, Sane and I have a sophomoric prank to go do. I have the matches Sane, don't forget to bring the bag of dog doo and I will meet you at Rockefellers front door.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruthShallSetYouFree on September 09, 2009, 12:08:02 pm
lol grow up kid, there is a difference between lies and irony/satire. Charlie Sheen did not tell lies, he used an ironic perspective to tell the truth. Read some political texts from famous writers of the last centuries (including the 20th), this is a writing technique used all over the place.

You should GROW UP!

The problem is NOT Charlie Sheen's article, the problem is that Alex Jones LEAD US ALL to believe that it was REAL!

1) Alex Jones hyped this for weeks!!!
2) NO DISCLAIMER FOR HOURS!
3) Spent 90 minutes of his show without telling his listeners that the "interview" never happened!

That, my friend, are lies and deceptions of the highest order!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: wembley87 on September 09, 2009, 12:33:45 pm
Kick ass Charlie and Alex , you have a plan and im behind you all the way !!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 09, 2009, 12:46:52 pm
You should GROW UP!

The problem is NOT Charlie Sheen's article, the problem is that Alex Jones LEAD US ALL to believe that it was REAL!

1) Alex Jones hyped this for weeks!!!
2) NO DISCLAIMER FOR HOURS!
3) Spent 90 minutes of his show without telling his listeners that the "interview" never happened!

That, my friend, are lies and deceptions of the highest order!


1.Alex Hypes a lot of stuff,so what.

2.The Disclaimer appeared 40 minutes later,not hours.

3.You must have been listening to a different broadcast,I heard him talking about it from the beginning.

Yeah I was pissed too,but hey I got over it and I'm glad I was wrong and its great to see people from say the likes of David Ickes forum posting the article around.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheQ on September 09, 2009, 12:49:25 pm
Alex is now saying that this is all the fault of Wordpress. Come again?

1) They could post 16 pages of text but couldn't post a single line of disclaimer at the beginning of it?

2) Alex is constantly bragging about how he delivers terrabytes of data and how he has a CDN and yet he can't deliver comments and images on his site?!?

Does Alex think that we're that stupid? The guy's a liar and can't come clean.




You seem pretty stupid actually... you think Alex faked all the server problems he had yesterday?  ::)   And the disclaimer was at the end, not the beginning...  get lost
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheHouseMan on September 09, 2009, 12:56:28 pm
Alex has described this whole thing as a "psyop against the New World Order". I am very intrigued by all of this, because the media has thus far written some very fair stories, including Fox News.

I think Charlie must have some tremendous knowledge of how the media machine/Hollywood works. They are trying something somewhat occultic here. I'm not sure what it is. But it seems to be tricking the idiot, robotic media.

I mean: if I was running the corporate media, in my current state of mind, I would just ignore the Charlie Sheen story. That would stop it from getting any traction. But no... somehow the media is covering it. Alex even said that the media would take the bait, because they just can't resist. Something GROUNDBREAKING is going on. I don't know what it is. This is just amazing, though. I am extremely fascinated by this. Alex is on to something big.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 09, 2009, 12:59:43 pm
You should GROW UP!

The problem is NOT Charlie Sheen's article, the problem is that Alex Jones LEAD US ALL to believe that it was REAL!

1) Alex Jones hyped this for weeks!!!
2) NO DISCLAIMER FOR HOURS!
3) Spent 90 minutes of his show without telling his listeners that the "interview" never happened!

That, my friend, are lies and deceptions of the highest order!

yeah and how bout that deception where Charlie Sheen's DAD played President Bartlett!
That went on for seven SEASONS
I was totally convinced West Wing was true and when I found out I was really pissed at the network
how could they play me like that! It was a deception of the highest order.
it was so real.
and when Leo died, (and then he really died) I was really confused

sorry i don't mean to offend, i had to go there   ;)

seriously, i kind of know how you might feel, but look at it from AJ's perspective
he wasn't trying to fool you or dis you, he was trying to galvanize the issue
bottom line
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 09, 2009, 01:06:27 pm
Hey they just posted my posting at the top of Portland's INDYMEDIA
http://portland.indymedia.org/ (http://portland.indymedia.org/)
I'm trying to rock my little part of the world
(Indy media has like tens of thousands of viewers
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 09, 2009, 01:06:52 pm
Please leave a comment on Tina Dupuy hit piece(NOT)article entitled "Charlie Sheen Has Gone Cuckoo Bananas",make sure you point out her lack of coverage on the 20 bullet points.

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/show_business/charlie_sheen_has_gone_cuckoo_bananas_130581.asp?dsq=16264237#comment-16264237


Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: stymo1 on September 09, 2009, 01:11:24 pm
That, my friend, are lies and deceptions of the highest order!

Lies of the highest order ...?
like 19 Arabs took over 4 airplanes with box cutters and then proceeded to fly 3 out of 4 of them into buildings?

like the twin towers fell due to thermal expansion caused by the heat created from fuel burning, even with the recent findings of unburnt thermite in the dust samples collected after the collapses?

like WTC7 fell because it was so damaged by debris falling, even though it was not as engulfed as the towers?

like even though the fires devoured all manner of papers, and everything in the buildings vaporized during the collapse, a passport connecting one of the alleged hijackers was found laying on top of a pile of debris in plain sight?

like people called their loved ones via cell phones from the hijacked airplanes, even though the technology to do so did not exist at that time?

like a plane hit the pentagon and we can't even find any wreckage?

.......and you are all caught up with an Alex Jones disclaimer issue and still call yourself a truther?

Those, my friend, are lies and deceptions of the highest order!

Man, the list of unanswered questions goes on and on. Why are they so afraid to open it up?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TruthShallSetYouFree on September 09, 2009, 01:13:51 pm

You seem pretty stupid actually... you think Alex faked all the server problems he had yesterday?  ::)   And the disclaimer was at the end, not the beginning...  get lost


I'm stupid for not believing obvious lies? Maybe it's you who's so brainwashed by the cult leader with a messianic complex that you can't reason anymore and will invent reasons to justify his lies!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 09, 2009, 01:17:50 pm
Please leave a comment on Tina Dupuy hit piece(NOT)article entitled "Charlie Sheen Has Gone Cuckoo Bananas",make sure you point out her lack of coverage on the 20 bullet points.

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/show_business/charlie_sheen_has_gone_cuckoo_bananas_130581.asp?dsq=16264237#comment-16264237




just posted there
how come my post is the only one up there all of a sudden? (warriorwoman)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: stymo1 on September 09, 2009, 01:19:29 pm
Unfortunately, when I arrive on Tuesday to this site, I am to realize that this entire hype was centered around an underwhelming article which will never see the light of day on the mainstream media (Van Jones was ignored until his resignation, you think a Charlie Sheen Article has legs? Get real!)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548400,00.html??test=faces (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548400,00.html??test=faces)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/obama-charlie-sheen-911.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/obama-charlie-sheen-911.html)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/celebrities/6609335.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/celebrities/6609335.html)

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908 (http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252554+08-Sep-2009+PRN20090908)

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b143190_charlie_sheen_truther_teaches_obama.html (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b143190_charlie_sheen_truther_teaches_obama.html)


There are more, but I think you have just been debunked.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: gEEk squad on September 09, 2009, 01:20:49 pm

I'm stupid for not believing obvious lies? Maybe it's you who's so brainwashed by the cult leader with a messianic complex that you can't reason anymore and will invent reasons to justify his lies!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex

You forget the fact that AJ didn't write the letter and doesn't post articles to infowars or prisonplanet.

If this was really a "hoax" could you please show me any shred of evidence that AJ or anyone associated with him said that Sheen's conversation actually happened? I know you can't.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: deconstructmyhouse on September 09, 2009, 01:21:35 pm

I'm stupid for not believing obvious lies? Maybe it's you who's so brainwashed by the cult leader with a messianic complex that you can't reason anymore and will invent reasons to justify his lies!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex

from your wiki link
A messiah complex is a state of mind in which the individual believes he/she is, or is destined to become, a savior.

so to be clear, duder, AJ doesn't want to be anybody's savior.  He constantly tells us to get up off our ass and SAVE ourselves.
big diff
how bout you do some of that?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dan on September 09, 2009, 01:22:55 pm

I'm stupid for not believing obvious lies? Maybe it's you who's so brainwashed by the cult leader with a messianic complex that you can't reason anymore and will invent reasons to justify his lies!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex

wow, the newbs are going at each other....hahahaha
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 09, 2009, 01:24:27 pm
just posted there
how come my post is the only one up there all of a sudden? (warriorwoman)


Theres about 5 or 6 including your post,I suppose they just show the most recent.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 02:28:20 pm
Alex is now saying that this is all the fault of Wordpress. Come again?

1) They could post 16 pages of text but couldn't post a single line of disclaimer at the beginning of it?

2) Alex is constantly bragging about how he delivers terrabytes of data and how he has a CDN and yet he can't deliver comments and images on his site?!?

Does Alex think that we're that stupid? The guy's a liar and can't come clean.



this is the way wordpress works, this is a fact. you put up articles, add disclaimers, pictures, subtext, etc. this is 2+2=4 kind of stuff. Sorry you are completely fixated on assisting people in covering up the truth about 9/11. AJ and CS and most on this forum believe that it is time to blow the lid off the coverup of the greatest crime in the world.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: rio on September 09, 2009, 02:38:13 pm
I find it interesting that the mainstream media is playing along with the Prison Planet/Charlie Sheen piece while much of the alternative movement is crying bloody foul.

As for Alex, he can engage in sensationalism and borderline deceptive tactics all he wants but he should know that he really hurts the credibilty of others who aren't engaging in those tactics and want to remain as credible as possible.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 09, 2009, 02:39:27 pm
I find it interesting that the mainstream media is playing along with the Prison Planet/Charlie Sheen piece while much of the alternative movement is crying bloody foul.

thats one word for it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: EvadingGrid on September 09, 2009, 02:44:13 pm
2+2=4
911 was an Inside Job
none can dispute the content of the Charlie Sheen Article

whats the problem ?
so you gripe about the delivery publicity ?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 03:03:39 pm
I find it interesting that the mainstream media is playing along with the Prison Planet/Charlie Sheen piece while much of the alternative movement is crying bloody foul.

As for Alex, he can engage in sensationalism and borderline deceptive tactics all he wants but he should know that he really hurts the credibilty of others who aren't engaging in those tactics and want to remain as credible as possible.

I am confused, you do realize that the tactics of humor and satire are a god given right that is protected by the constitution don't you? why would you deny use of the rights handed down by god and enforced by the founders of this country and the constitution? why would you deny the victims of 9/11 the use of these tactics that expose the awesome beauty of the human spirit and the true criminal elite psychopaths that are still planning more false flag massacres with Ptech/MITRE/Booz Allen Hamilton/SAIC/etc?

denying this freedom from patriots who continue to speak truth to power seems to hurt the credibility of humanity more than anything.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 09, 2009, 03:09:48 pm
I think the naysayers need to check out this comment that chrisfromchi just posted in another thread.

Like 5 people i showed the article too so far haven't said a word about any sort of drama yesterday...CAUSE THEY DON"T KNOW AND AREN'T ANAL ENOUGH TO CARE..
My friends and sources must all be smarter than the detractors here cause they picked it up right away what the message of the piece was.

They got it was a dramatization of what Charlie sheen would like to see, and agreed later that this was the best method, cause any other way people wouldn't read it.

Personally i'm going to start flaming these guys if they are going to continue with this stupid mantra about the delivery of this hardcore information piece.
So if you got a problem you better line up.

I have never had the success with 9/11 truth than i did with this one. thanks alex.


Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: rio on September 09, 2009, 03:13:33 pm
I am confused, you do realize that the tactics of humor and satire are a god given right that is protected by the constitution don't you? why would you deny use of the rights handed down by god and enforced by the founders of this country and the constitution?

I'm not denying anyone anything. I love humor, sarcasm and I also agree with the Communist Sal Alinski that ridicule of the enemy is the most powerful tactic to be used in the infowar. Even though I disagreed with AJ dressing up and acting insane like the Joker, I felt that the Joker poster campaign was hugely successful.

But that's not what happened in this situation though, and you can spin it all you want, but that won't regain the trust of people who now feel stabbed in the back by Alex's tactics.

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 03:17:53 pm
I'm not denying anyone anything. I love humor, sarcasm and I also agree with the Communist Sal Alinski that ridicule of the enemy is the most powerful tactic to be used in the infowar.

That's not what happened here though, and you can spin it all you want, but that won't regain the trust of people who now feel stabbed in the back by Alex's tactics.



"stabbed in the back"?

are you sure you are a human being?

do you have any proof, evidence, logic, rationality, historical data, sourced information, anything that supports this outlandish nonsense?

WTF?

You think this was AJ grabbing a knife waiting for you to turn around and then slamming the knife into your back rather than a majestic work of satire that in less than 24 hours is already proving itself? It is already opening yet another hole in the matrix for truth to flow freely exemplifying the ineffable commitment AJ and CS have to the victims of 9/11, this country, and all of humanity.

whooah, that seems to me to be a weeee bit odd that you would think this. do you think this was an attack against you. I mean you do personify this as you being stabbed in the back-is this a personal issue you have or something?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: unitedstrokesofamerica on September 09, 2009, 03:41:23 pm
After hearing Alex and Charlie talk about this I am totally on board now, I fell off the fence onto....of course on Alex's side. It makes perfect sense and I think Charlie is going to be on the TV allot this week and next tossing this in Obama's face. Very bold and just awesome.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: MaxRomeo2.0 on September 09, 2009, 03:41:37 pm
I think this whole Charlie Sheen interview thing is great. Its meant to generate publicity which it SURELY will judging by the heated controversy its caused here so far. What you have to understand is that this idea came from Charlie Sheen. Charlie Sheen is a hollywood star, so of COURSE he frames his argument in the form of a SCRIPT. Duh !!! Its not a psy-op, its not a hoax, its just Charlie Sheen's contribution to the 9/11 truth movement. I for one think its great that he's willing to put his name and face on the movement to try to force the state run msm to acknowledge it. I think it has a good chance of working, and I hope it does. Alot of people have these negative opinions but what are THEY doing ? Do they have names as big as Charlie Sheen's name is ? Can they force the spotlight onto the true facts of 9/11 the way he is trying to ? Shame on everyone hatin on Charlie Sheen's idea. How about some UNITY ??? I'm proud of Charlie Sheen. I think it will be poetic justice for a guy who starred in Red Dawn to help expose the new world order. Truth really is stranger than fiction ! Go, Charlie, Go !!!

WOLVERINES !!!!!!

Maybe we can have another former actor as a President ??? At least he tells the truth about 9/11, unlike certain other politicians....
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: unitedstrokesofamerica on September 09, 2009, 03:44:43 pm
It is very well done. I totally thought it was real ( well not the tivo part hehe, but that could have been a Obama style joke).  Awesome Job CS!!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: hardrain77 on September 09, 2009, 04:49:10 pm
Why are people in a tizzy over this thing? Do people honestly think AJ let them down or something? I'd like to hear some as-clever ways to get 9/11 truth out there with big name people behind it if there are any better ideas.

What 9/11 truth lacks is a clean, disposable way of presenting as many facts as possible in the most consumptive, attention-getting way. This is one way of achieving that.

What this movement needs is less Van Jones style division and more clever action like Sheen presented. I applaud his bravery.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: rio on September 09, 2009, 04:50:08 pm
"stabbed in the back"?

are you sure you are a human being?

do you have any proof, evidence, logic, rationality, historical data, sourced information, anything that supports this outlandish nonsense?


Yes, the proof are the members of this forum, mind you, who have already voiced their disapproval of this false flag psyop and AJ's ongoing antics. We're just trying to be reasonable you know.

And this is going to be my last post in this thread so I won't be accused of "dividing the movement" or god forbid get banned for voicing my opnion.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 04:51:32 pm
Yes, the proof are the members of this forum, mind you, who have already voiced their disapproval of this false flag psyop and AJ's ongoing antics. We're just trying to be reasonable you know.

you are the first to mention such a graphic absurdity that I have seen. false flag psyop? whose flag was charlie flying exactly? obama's flag? are you sure you are defining "false flag psyop" correctly?

Quote
And this is going to be my last post in this thread so I won't be accused of "dividing the movement" or god forbid get banned for voicing my opnion.

um, thanks ? i guess
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 04:54:52 pm
Breaking Three Years of Silence: Alex Jones Interviews Charlie Sheen
http://www.infowars.com/breaking-three-years-of-silence-alex-jones-interviews-charlie-sheen/
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
September 9, 2009

In the audio clip below, aired today on the Alex Jones Show, Charlie Sheen, popular actor and winner of the Golden Globe for Best Performance by an Actor In A Television Series, tells Alex Jones why he wrote “20 Minutes with the President,” an open letter to president Barack Obama calling for a new investigation into the September 11, 2001, attacks.


“Enough stonewalling,” Sheen told Jones, “enough media manipulation, enough media-mantra speak. The families deserve better, America deserves better.”

Charlie said he cannot sit idly by and hope that a new investigation will “fall out of the heavens and into our Congress.” We must demand Obama deliver “honest promises,” Sheen explained. We must demand a new investigation.

Alex mentioned John Farmer, a senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission, who revealed earlier this year that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11. Other members have said that the Pentagon and the government were engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack. Farmer’s book about his experiences working for the Commission is entitled The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11, and is set to be released this month (see Paul Joseph Watson, 9/11 Commission Counsel: Government Agreed to Lie About 9/11).

Charlie said the call for a new investigation will not be silenced by the corporate media. “This message will not be silence anymore by the media-fueled mantras insisting on how they feel and deciding for them [the American people and most importantly the victim family members] for eight long years what can thought, what can be said, what can be asked..”


Alex noted that even as the whitewash commission conducted its hearings, there were outraged family members in the audience demanding the truth be told. Charlie added that these family members were ignored by the commission and thus deeply offended. The questions they asked “never saw the light of day” and their words never found their way into the final report generated by the commission, itself a fraud as Farmer others have noted. “We know that [the families] have been calling for a new investigation,” Sheen noted.

The government is demanding the public suspend logical thought and dismiss all questions about the investigation’s report, which is a work of fiction, in essence a fairy tale, Charlie argued. The establishment, he said, demands we worship a new form of physics and accept a “new form of reality that is inconsistent with everything we know in each and every cell of our entire being.” The American people are instructed by the government to believe such obvious nonsense and then are systematically demonized for asking questions, he explained.

The official 9/11 story is “an absolute fairy tale,” Charlie declared, “a complete work of fiction, and not even a very good one.”

Sheen hopes “20 Minutes with the President” will get Obama’s attention. “If for some reason this doesn’t make it into his hands and I am never granted 20 minutes with my president, I would urge the American people — I would urge anybody and everybody that has a stake in this, which would be all of us — to continue to apply the pressure, to continue to ask the questions, to continue to demand the truth.”

Charlie Sheen will further expand on his open letter this Friday on the Alex Jones Show.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 04:55:56 pm
Media & Blogosphere React To Sheen’s Request For Meeting With Obama
http://www.infowars.com/media-blogosphere-react-to-sheen%e2%80%99s-request-for-meeting-with-obama/
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, September 9, 2009



The media and the blogosphere have begun to react to actor Charlie Sheen’s call for a meeting with President Obama to discuss the 9/11 cover-up, with even some of Sheen’s detractors praising the style of his “20 Minutes WIth The President” letter.

With big corporate media networks expected to wade in on the controversy today or tomorrow, as happened when Sheen first went public with his 9/11 questions in March 2006, the first responses have originated from online only news websites and blogs.

One of the first to react was Kim LaCapria of the Inquisitr blog, who lauded Sheen’s style of “fanfic” writing in the form of his mock meeting with the President.

“Charlie Sheen has taken questioning the official account of September 11th to a whole new level,” writes LaCapria, adding, “He’s written a fanfic about it. He doesn’t call it fanfic, but any of us who used to be addicted to Harry Potter fanfic know what fanfic is – we recognize it when we see it.”

“As a native New Yorker who thinks the 9/11 Commission Report was an insult and that the previous administration is at least guilty of criminal negligence, I don’t begrudge Sheen his fervor on the subject,” she adds.

A Gawker.com report on the story was more sophomoric than complimentary, but still acknowledges the piece as “a breathtaking piece of fantasy journalism.”

Meanwhile, over on the AfterEllen website, a poster describes Sheen’s efforts as “pretty creative” and encourages everyone to read his letter to Obama.

A World Entertainment News Network report on the story, picked up by the Houston Chronicle, presents a balanced and neutral view of the issue, noting that Sheen hopes his letter will make “the president will take note of his campaign and grant him a meeting.”

A decidedly more vicious response carried by the Associated Content website attempts to link Sheen to recently resigned Obama jobs czar Van Jones and portray 9/11 truthers as a psychologically disturbed fringe, while failing to mention the fact that thousands of credible individuals both in and out of government, military leaders, intelligence professionals, legal scholars, architects and engineers, and indeed the majority of the 9/11 Commission members have all publicly questioned the official 9/11 story.

Separately, a few other blogs were up in arms about Sheen’s letter being a “hoax” because the disclaimer clarifying that the meeting with Obama was a stylized fictional account and not a real event did not get added to the bottom of the article until a little later due to technical snafus and a bombardment of traffic that shut down servers and locked out Infowars and Prison Planet webmasters. With the Infowars version having been copied across from Prison Planet, both original versions did not contain the disclaimer until the error was brought to our attention and promptly fixed as soon as we could gain access to servers that kept crashing, as many readers noted at the time. We added the disclaimer as soon as possible as well as other information that should have been included at the bottom of the original article regarding Sheen’s appearance on the show. We apologize for any confusion this may have caused and are trying to move our servers in house to prevent this routine occurrence from happening again.

Others expressed disappointment that the announcement wasn’t big enough, but as Alex Jones stressed on several occasions, Sheen’s letter is only the start of a chain of events that will put 9/11 truth firmly at the forefront of public attention during the week of the 8th anniversary since the tragic events of that day.

The issue is set to gain more prominence today as Sheen’s brand new full 20 minute interview on the subject airs on The Alex Jones Show with a call to action video to follow on Thursday and the Sheen set to appear live on the show on Friday.

We would like to thank Charlie Sheen for his courageous stance for 9/11 truth in the face of what promises to be an establishment backlash and encourage everyone to get behind him in bringing these issues to the forefront of national consciousness in this anniversary week.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 04:58:10 pm
Mr. Roff, 9/11 Truthers Are No “Fringe” Movement
http://www.infowars.com/mr-roff-911-truthers-are-no-fringe-movement/
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, September 9, 2009



An acerbic attack on Charlie Sheen for the crime of questioning the official story behind 9/11, a sentiment shared by the majority of Americans and indeed the majority of the 9/11 Commission itself, appearing in U.S. News and World Report this morning relies upon cliched and completely unfounded terms of reference in a poor effort to smear Sheen as part of a “conspiracy fringe”.

In his hit piece, author Peter Roff labels 9/11 truth as an “extremist theory” and compares its adherents with those who believe Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone in killing Kennedy.

So that’ll be over two thirds of the entire population of the U.S. then, Mr. Roff! In what possible way can this be described as “fringe” thinking?

An ABC News poll conducted on the 40th anniversary of the JFK assassination found that 7 in 10 Americans believe that the murder of Kennedy was the result of a wider plot, not the lone actions of Oswald.

The establishment media are still operating under a deluded and contrived perception of public opinion that has no correlation whatsoever to reality itself.

Roff goes on to reference Van Jones and dismiss 9/11 truthers as a “fringe element” but concedes that they are politically influential and that establishment Democrats and Republicans “need to deal with them”.

Just by coincidence, while arguing that 9/11 truthers represent a “fringe element,” Roff fails to mention that the majority of American citizens doubt the official government version of events.

He also fails to acknowledge the fact, as strongly emphasized in Charlie Sheen’s letter to the President, that the majority of the 9/11 Commission members publicly denounced the official story and stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth.

He also conveniently fails to highlight the fact that literally thousands of credible individuals both in and out of government, military leaders, intelligence professionals, legal scholars, architects and engineers, have all publicly questioned the official 9/11 story.

If there was every any doubt that people with serious questions about 9/11 are the majority, a cacophony of respondents moved quickly to slam Roff’s hit piece within minutes of it being posted.

“I challenge anyone to refute any of the 20 claims that Charlie Sheen makes. He has done his research and knows what he is talking about. Argue him on the facts. Don’t resort to baseless ad hominem attacks or throw up straw men,” wrote one.

“You can say what ever you want about the truth movement. Just recognize that 60% of the 911 commission says the 911 commission report is a FRAUD!!” added another.

“Charlie Sheen brings up a lot of insightful points and questions in this creative piece. There remain a lot of unanswered questions about this awful day that now dictates the geopolitical strategy of powerhouse nations,” writes another.

Establishment talking heads like Roff, idly strolling through their careers on the gravy train of corporate media, remain blissfully unaware that their terms of reference and cliched quips about grassy knoll conspiracy theories are about three decades out of date. The establishment media is a complete laughing stock, which is why it is in terminal decline as more and more seek an alternative in the face of ceaseless government lies and propaganda, dutifully parroted by an ever-obedient fourth estate.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ekimdrachir on September 09, 2009, 05:13:09 pm
http://digg.com/search?s=charlie+sheen (http://digg.com/search?s=charlie+sheen)

The only result with lots of diggs is AWOL

 * 593 diggs : Charlie Sheen Involved with 9/11 Documentary

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Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: thadividedsky on September 09, 2009, 06:11:38 pm
14 freakin pages of whining, crying and b*tching about the delivery. Come on people, grow up and be thankful we have the high profile people we have speaking out and asking the hard questions that need to be asked. I showed this to over 2 dozen people today and when they read the disclaimer, they chuckled and then started asking questions like "why were these questions never asked? All these years and nobody in a position to do so asked these questions?". It's working, for once we have something to stick in a sheeps face with "that guy from 2 and 1/2 men" wanting to ask questions they all have been wanting to ask. So far, the only people I have seen upset over the delivery are on here. Most everywhere else the results are positive. Would everyone rather this have not happened and we'd still be where we were before this? I don't. Thanks Alex and especially you Charlie. It takes big ones to speak out like you have and I applaud you. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC, FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: SUPREMEMASTER on September 09, 2009, 06:13:01 pm
14 freakin pages of whining, crying and b*tching about the delivery.

Is it recoiling & back-firing? Or are people just THINKING that it's going to recoil and back-fire?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 09, 2009, 06:25:21 pm
14 freakin pages of whining, crying and b*tching about the delivery. Come on people, grow up and be thankful we have the high profile people we have speaking out and asking the hard questions that need to be asked. I showed this to over 2 dozen people today and when they read the disclaimer, they chuckled and then started asking questions like "why were these questions never asked? All these years and nobody in a position to do so asked these questions?". It's working, for once we have something to stick in a sheeps face with "that guy from 2 and 1/2 men" wanting to ask questions they all have been wanting to ask. So far, the only people I have seen upset over the delivery are on here. Most everywhere else the results are positive. Would everyone rather this have not happened and we'd still be where we were before this? I don't. Thanks Alex and especially you Charlie. It takes big ones to speak out like you have and I applaud you. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC, FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL.

Of course, anyone who doesn't follow the party line here is a whiner and a crier.   ::)

Stop insulting members who don't agree with your view.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 06:29:26 pm
Of course, anyone who doesn't follow the party line here is a whiner and a crier.   ::)

Stop insulting members who don't agree with your view.

dude, why are you taking this shit personally? you have remained somewhat rational up to this point, but c'mon the cat is waaaaaaaaay out of the bag on this one.

can't you just follow the party line for the good of the state? ;)

[c'mon man, at least stop blasting anyone who thinks it was odd for so much infighting to go on while CS has come back after 3 years to again risk the hollywood smear cabal in speaking truth to power.]
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 09, 2009, 06:35:33 pm
Of course, anyone who doesn't follow the party line here is a whiner and a crier.   ::)

Stop insulting members who don't agree with your view.

Go to sleep Monkeypox, Go to Sleep.

Alex Jones has created his greatest masterpiece in 15 Years, he has gotten a celebrity to endorse 9/11 truth... well the guy was already endorsing 9/11 truth but lets not get technical. He has created the most impressive article of his life time which will open peoples minds to the questions surrounding 9/11, well these questions are not new and the article is far more underwhelming then "The Obama Deception", but lets not get technical. Alex Jones has more up his sleeves, this was just the beginning of a far more impressive announcement in the form of a very calculated chain of events we will see unfold this week, well so far its just been more Charlie Sheen interviews and a few semi-mainstream blogs reporting on the article, but lets not get technical.

Like I said Monkeypox, Go to sleep.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 09, 2009, 06:37:36 pm
Go to sleep Monkeypox, Go to Sleep.

Alex Jones has created his greatest masterpiece in 15 Years, he has gotten a celebrity to endorse 9/11 truth... well the guy was already endorsing 9/11 truth but lets not get technical. He has created the most impressive article of his life time which will open peoples minds to the questions surrounding 9/11, well these questions are not new and the article is far more underwhelming then "The Obama Deception", but lets not get technical. Alex Jones has more up his sleeves, this was just the beginning of a far more impressive announcement in the form of a very calculated chain of events we will see unfold this week, well so far its just been more Charlie Sheen interviews and a few semi-mainstream blogs reporting on the article, but lets not get technical.

Like I said Monkeypox, Go to sleep.

f**k You, you arrogant bastard.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 09, 2009, 06:38:32 pm
f**k You, you arrogant bastard.

Its sarcasm lol im on your side
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 06:39:22 pm
Its sarcasm lol im on your side

dude, you ain't on anyone's side.

monkeypox has presented logical arguments, you are just an asshole.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Berminator on September 09, 2009, 06:40:18 pm
Alex Jones has just become a social artist.

Now if that ain't the truth, tell me i'm mistaken.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 09, 2009, 06:40:31 pm
dude, why are you taking this shit personally? you have remained somewhat rational up to this point, but c'mon the cat is waaaaaaaaay out of the bag on this one.

can't you just follow the party line for the good of the state? ;)

[c'mon man, at least stop blasting anyone who thinks it was odd for so much infighting to go on while CS has come back after 3 years to again risk the hollywood smear cabal in speaking truth to power.]

I am not taking this personally.  I simply do not like the way anyone who has an alternate point of view about this issue is being treated here.

If you think I'm the only one, I will tell you that I have received MANY PMs from other members who feel the same way, but are afraid of posting for fear of being attacked.

That's not what I expect to happen here.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 06:41:42 pm
I am not taking this personally.  I simply do not like the way anyone who has an alternate point of view about this issue is being treated here.

If you think I'm the only one, I will tell you that I have received MANY PMs from other members who feel the same way, but are afraid of posting for fear of being attacked.

well so have I on the other side of the spectrum, but a culture of fear is not in the interest of this forum. point taken.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 09, 2009, 06:42:03 pm
Its sarcasm lol im on your side

You forgot the sarcasm smiley.

 :P
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: adissenter2 on September 09, 2009, 06:42:08 pm
why are you all wasting your time?   >:(

THIS IS AN INFO WAR!

& these are your marching orders!   8)

 click --> http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=133511.0 <--click
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Okinawa on September 09, 2009, 06:42:52 pm
Just Googled Obama Charlie Sheen

Over 500,000 hits
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 06:44:37 pm
You forgot the sarcasm smiley.

 :P

i am telling you right now, he is the hal turner of what you are trying to accomplish.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 09, 2009, 06:46:25 pm
dude, you ain't on anyone's side.

monkeypox has presented logical arguments, you are just an asshole.

I have presented my arguments as logical and well written as I can

"Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op Doesnt Work"
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=133242.msg803906#msg803906

"How the Article will not get more 9/11 Truthers through the Mainstream Media Coverage"
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=133242.msg804114#msg804114
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 06:47:31 pm
I have presented my arguments as logical and well written as I can

"Why the Charlie Sheen Psy-Op Doesnt Work"
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=133242.msg803906#msg803906

"How the Article will not get more 9/11 Truthers through the Mainstream Media Coverage"
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=133242.msg804114#msg804114

thanks for proving my point.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 09, 2009, 06:48:37 pm
thanks for proving my point.

....

Can you maybe explain your point? I cannot read minds
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Monkeypox on September 09, 2009, 06:49:48 pm
wel so have I on the other side of the spectrum, but a culture of fear is not in the interest of this forum. point taken.

Same here.

For the record:  I like that CS did this.  I think asking Obama for an interview and the list of questions is great.

However, I don't like the "interview format" - I think it was a mistake.  I also don't like how Alex hyped this as the biggest thing he's ever done.  I also think it was regrettable that the story was initially posted without a disclaimer and was released out into the wild as "fact".

I hope that this will open the eyes of many people, but I fear that it may not.  Or even worse, it will be used by the MSM to further depict "truthers"  as a bunch of paranoid wackos and liars.

Let's all remember that after a good argument we're all still on the same side.

That is the last I'm going to say about this.  I'm not even going to look at this thread anymore.   ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 06:51:42 pm
Same here.

For the record:  I like that CS did this.  I think asking Obama for an interview and the list of questions is great.

However, I don't like the "interview format" - I think it was a mistake.  I also don't like how Alex hyped this as the biggest thing he's ever done.  I also think it was regrettable that the story was initially posted without a disclaimer and was released out into the wild as "fact".

I hope that this will open the eyes of many people, but I fear that it may not.  Or even worse, it will be used by the MSM to further depict "truthers"  as a bunch of paranoid wackos and liars.

Let's all remember that after a good argument we're all still on the same side.

That is the last I'm going to say about this.  I'm not even going to look at this thread anymore.   ;D

thanks for the genuine comments, peace bro.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: thadividedsky on September 09, 2009, 06:52:56 pm
Of course, anyone who doesn't follow the party line here is a whiner and a crier.   ::)

Stop insulting members who don't agree with your view.
8 years we've been waiting for answers, I have been grieving these 8 years and will continue to grieve until someone forces these questions. I want justice. I don't care HOW the questions get forced into the nations face. I just want them answered, period. Is that too much to ask? What else has worked? I'm tired of waiting for these questions to be both asked and answered. Is there anyone who has a better idea that will get some justice for the families who are still suffering to this day? Mine as well? If so, then please do not hold back because to this day we still haven't gotten justice. How long do we have to wait?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 06:58:21 pm
8 years we've been waiting for answers, I have been grieving these 8 years and will continue to grieve until someone forces these questions. I want justice. I don't care HOW the questions get forced into the nations face. I just want them answered, period. Is that too much to ask? What else has worked? I'm tired of waiting for these questions to be both asked and answered. Is there anyone who has a better idea that will get some justice for the families who are still suffering to this day? Mine as well? If so, then please do not hold back because to this day we still haven't gotten justice. How long do we have to wait?

yeah I agree that simple satire is hardly an unacceptable method of exposing truth, especially given the historical evidence you have presented. But there is also no reason for creating an atmosphere of fear within this forum for genuine debate.  I do not feel that this pertains with all the counter conversations within this thread, but for the underlying reason for most of monkeypox's comments (and given his continued commitment to expose truth on this forum) I think it does.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 09, 2009, 07:07:41 pm
Please leave a comment on Tina Dupuy hit piece(NOT)article entitled "Charlie Sheen Has Gone Cuckoo Bananas"

But what makes you think it's a hit piece? :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 07:10:22 pm
But what makes you think it's a hit piece? :D

yeah, the title seems fair and balanced.  sound like it is a pillar of journalistic integrity to me. :D ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheCaliKid on September 09, 2009, 07:11:47 pm
Please leave a comment on Tina Dupuy hit piece(NOT)article entitled "Charlie Sheen Has Gone Cuckoo Bananas",make sure you point out her lack of coverage on the 20 bullet points.

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/show_business/charlie_sheen_has_gone_cuckoo_bananas_130581.asp?dsq=16264237#comment-16264237





"Okay Folks, the comments for this section are closed. No this is not squashing dissent. I'm not the government. This is a website about media gossip. I frankly don't like being called names or physically threatened for making fun of a celebrity when they deeply deserve it.

I suggest you go write your representatives in congress. They are paid to listen to you and your concerns.

Now go play nice somewhere else."



PUSSY!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 09, 2009, 07:13:26 pm
What this particular thread proved is that we do not all think the same,we are all individuals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQqq3e03EBQ),I wasn't wrong and I wasn't right,I just was  ;)

In retrospect I can this well written,factual piece has made an impact and any impact is better than no impact at all.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 07:16:13 pm

"Okay Folks, the comments for this section are closed. No this is not squashing dissent. I'm not the government. This is a website about media gossip. I frankly don't like being called names or physically threatened for making fun of a celebrity when they deeply deserve it.

I suggest you go write your representatives in congress. They are paid to listen to you and your concerns.

Now go play nice somewhere else."



PUSSY!

bwaaaaaaahahahaha and those are real people whereas if you say something anti-NWO you get Lincoln Group, Rendon, Omnicom, and thousands of other paid trolls swarming the comments section. Similar to what roadrunner has exposed concerning the CoIntelPro infiltration of YouTube:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Look at the elaborate YouTube CoIntelPro operation LIVE!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxKAsbKiqoQ&videos=sM38QaoiAnA&playnext_from=TL&playnext=1

Just look at the comments on Alex's Jones YouTube hype up Tuesday video

Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 07:20:44 pm
What this particular thread proved is that we do not all think the same,we are all individuals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQqq3e03EBQ),I wasn't wrong and I wasn't right,I just was  ;)

In retrospect I can this well written,factual piece has made an impact and any impact is better than no impact at all.

I am completely aligned on that statement!

Almost feel like clicking on a marley mp3 and looking for some alternative energy plant.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ES on September 09, 2009, 07:28:04 pm
The article seems to be generating some press and some of the articles mention prisonplanet, so I would have to call this one a win already, lets hope it gets even bigger.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: thadividedsky on September 09, 2009, 07:51:47 pm
yeah I agree that simple satire is hardly an unacceptable method of exposing truth, especially given the historical evidence you have presented. But there is also no reason for creating an atmosphere of fear within this forum for genuine debate.  I do not feel that this pertains with all the counter conversations within this thread, but for the underlying reason for most of monkeypox's comments (and given his continued commitment to expose truth on this forum) I think it does.
I Didn't know I was causing an atmosphere of fear on the forum and I apologize for doing so. That was never my intention, So I'm just gonna leave the forum be. I won't give up the fight for the truth though. I will not rest until there's justice. Good luck yall.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 09, 2009, 07:54:53 pm
I am completely aligned on that statement!

Almost feel like clicking on a marley mp3 and looking for some alternative energy plant.


 :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheQ on September 09, 2009, 08:07:17 pm
it was on Perezhilton.com... and now on the front page of http://fr.canoe.ca/   , Canada's biggest french news website..
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 09, 2009, 08:08:44 pm
dude, you ain't on anyone's side.

monkeypox has presented logical arguments, you are just an asshole.

+1
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris killz blog on September 09, 2009, 08:13:18 pm
Peter Roff Was Off: Back To The Drawing Board Buddy
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/peter-roff-was-off-back-to-drawing.html

Blogger Chris Killz Declares All Out War On Establishment Media Lies And Deception
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/blogger-chris-killz-declares-all-out.html

AC Sheen Story Debunked: Here's Mark Whittington's Take On It
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/heres-mark-whittingtons-take-on-it-from.html

Did The Revolution Start Yesterday?
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/did-revolution-start-yesterday.html

Public's Tolerance To 911 Lies Reaching Breaking Point
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/publics-tolerance-to-911-lies-reaching.html
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 09, 2009, 08:15:02 pm
Peter Roff Was Off: Back To The Drawing Board Buddy
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/peter-roff-was-off-back-to-drawing.html

Blogger Chris Killz Declares All Out War On Establishment Media Lies And Deception
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/blogger-chris-killz-declares-all-out.html

AC Sheen Story Debunked: Here's Mark Whittington's Take On It
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/heres-mark-whittingtons-take-on-it-from.html

Did The Revolution Start Yesterday?
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/did-revolution-start-yesterday.html

Public's Tolerance To 911 Lies Reaching Breaking Point
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/publics-tolerance-to-911-lies-reaching.html


I am starting to like this chris killz character...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 09, 2009, 09:38:52 pm
Should one of the moderators start a "Thank You Charlie S." thread in the honour of the brave step forward this guy just made for all of us?

Just a suggestion.

If your reading the comments sections, well: Thanks Charlie! And best of luck with the consequences of this initiative.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tritonman on September 09, 2009, 09:40:06 pm
Bill O over on faux just did a report on the sheen story. ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: rosswellp on September 09, 2009, 09:47:21 pm
Bill O over on faux just did a report on the sheen story. ;D

Yes, but he labeled him a pinhead. We need to light up Mr. O's e-mail.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tritonman on September 09, 2009, 09:50:02 pm
He somehow managed to not show the bulletin points also. ::)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: spangler on September 09, 2009, 09:50:44 pm
Should one of the moderators start a "Thank You Charlie S." thread in the honour of the brave step forward this guy just made for all of us?

Just a suggestion.

If your reading the comments sections, well: Thanks Charlie! And best of luck with the consequences of this initiative.

I second that Xill.

Thank you Charlie   :) 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 09, 2009, 10:06:30 pm

Yes, but he labeled him a pinhead. We need to light up Mr. O's e-mail.

I wouldn't waste the energy on O'Billge...

Just light up Charlie's publisher's e-mail with ACCOLADES!!!

JTCoyoté

"Having good friends will take you through times of no money,
much better than money will take you through times of no friends."
~Anonymous
(http://mail.moment.net/~michael/SaveDukeAvatar.JPG) (http://mail.moment.net/~michael/CoyoteMailer.htm)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: rosswellp on September 09, 2009, 10:16:08 pm
I wouldn't waste the energy on O'Billge...

Just light up Charlie's publisher's e-mail with ACCOLADES!!!

JTCoyoté

"Having good friends will take you through times of no money,
much better than money will take you through times of no friends."
~Anonymous
(http://mail.moment.net/~michael/SaveDukeAvatar.JPG) (http://mail.moment.net/~michael/CoyoteMailer.htm)
It may be helpful if a populist like O'reilly realized just how many of "the folks" don't share his view on 9/11.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Segnosis on September 09, 2009, 10:31:27 pm
So, let me get this straight. The reason why Alex pulled off the comments was to purge out the trolls and wake up others?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 09, 2009, 10:39:22 pm
Official: "Thank You Mr. Sheen!"

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=134306.msg806168;topicseen#msg806168
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: adissenter2 on September 09, 2009, 11:45:37 pm
So, let me get this straight. The reason why Alex pulled off the comments was to purge out the trolls and wake up others?

they were overloading the system, and to prevent a crash they were pulled along with comments from other stories (thats what I understand the excuse to be)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris killz blog on September 10, 2009, 12:04:20 am
JUST IN

BREAKING NEWS

<a href="http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-thoughts-on-charlie-sheen-911.html">Obama: Thoughts On Charlie Sheen 911 Letter</a>

<a href="http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/michelle-malkin-quiet-on-sheen-open.html">Michelle Malkin Quiet On Sheen Open Letter Issue</a>

<a href="http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/perez-hilton-tries-to-get-political.html">Perez Hilton Tries To Get Political: Epic Fail</a>
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 10, 2009, 12:11:39 am
JUST IN

BREAKING NEWS

<a href="http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-thoughts-on-charlie-sheen-911.html">Obama: Thoughts On Charlie Sheen 911 Letter</a>

<a href="http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/michelle-malkin-quiet-on-sheen-open.html">Michelle Malkin Quiet On Sheen Open Letter Issue</a>

<a href="http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/perez-hilton-tries-to-get-political.html">Perez Hilton Tries To Get Political: Epic Fail</a>

We'll never get one real argument about 9/11 with those pea brain sellouts.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: JTCoyoté on September 10, 2009, 02:48:10 am
So, let me get this straight. The reason why Alex pulled off the comments was to purge out the trolls and wake up others?

Where do you get that idea... Here's how it went down...

750,000 hits on the blogs by noon yesterday... shut down the comments at about 11:15 a.m. to keep infowars from going down completely... all the servers were flickering... there were so many people waiting to glimpse what the big story was, that we almost couldn't get the big story completely posted... but everything was up and complete by noon...

Yesterday was just the beginning, it looks like Alex will have Charlie, and other big surprises for the rest of the week... I was not even ready for this... I got a wake-up call about five hours after I went to sleep at about 3 AM yesterday morning... the phone rang at about 8 AM... it was Sane calling to tell me my arse needed to be online 30 minutes ago...

There were so many people on the blogs by the time Kurt and Paul were trying to post the story, that it took many attempts, and finally it could only be posted in small snippets until finally it required shutting off the comments, which are the biggest bandwidth consumer next to pictures on the sites, that was the only way to complete article finally got posted... as soon as the traffic slowed down a little bit comments on some of the stories were slowly turned back on.

There were totally unrelated stories on info wars, that hand over 1400 comments, not about the article that the comments were designed for, but with comments on me Charlie Sheen piece... it was insane over there.

Add to that the fact that a bunch of new members were approved early yesterday morning... 100 or so, and it was a "Katie bar the door" troll fest for most of the day yesterday... anyone who came in and said, "they are deleting my comments... Alex is censoring..." or any crap like that... especially people who have been around here for a while, and started whelping and whining like mama's boy, Birkenstock yuppies, crying for Obama... we politely ushered them out!

Needless to say yesterday was the most raucous and in saying it has been since the first week of the forum.

--Oldyoti

When my country, into which I had just set my foot,
was set on fire about my ears, it was time to stir.
It was time for every man to stir."
~Thomas Paine, Common Sense
(http://mail.moment.net/~michael/SaveDuke4.JPG) (http://mail.moment.net/~michael/CoyoteMailer.htm)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mr anderson on September 10, 2009, 03:07:07 am
Where do you get that idea... Here's how it went down...

750,000 hits on the blogs by noon yesterday... shut down the comments at about 11:15 a.m. to keep infowars from going down completely... all the servers were flickering... there were so many people waiting to glimpse what the big story was, that we almost couldn't get the big story completely posted... but everything was up and complete by noon...

Yesterday was just the beginning, it looks like Alex will have Charlie, and other big surprises for the rest of the week... I was not even ready for this... I got a wake-up call about five hours after I went to sleep at about 3 AM yesterday morning... the phone rang at about 8 AM... it was Sane calling to tell me my arse needed to be online 30 minutes ago...

There were so many people on the blogs by the time Kurt and Paul were trying to post the story, that it took many attempts, and finally it could only be posted in small snippets until finally it required shutting off the comments, which are the biggest bandwidth consumer next to pictures on the sites, that was the only way to complete article finally got posted... as soon as the traffic slowed down a little bit comments on some of the stories were slowly turned back on.

There were totally unrelated stories on info wars, that hand over 1400 comments, not about the article that the comments were designed for, but with comments on me Charlie Sheen piece... it was insane over there.

Add to that the fact that a bunch of new members were approved early yesterday morning... 100 or so, and it was a "Katie bar the door" troll fest for most of the day yesterday... anyone who came in and said, "they are deleting my comments... Alex is censoring..." or any crap like that... especially people who have been around here for a while, and started whelping and whining like mama's boy, Birkenstock yuppies, crying for Obama... we politely ushered them out!

Needless to say yesterday was the most raucous and in saying it has been since the first week of the forum.

--Oldyoti

When my country, into which I had just set my foot,
was set on fire about my ears, it was time to stir.
It was time for every man to stir."
~Thomas Paine, Common Sense
(http://mail.moment.net/~michael/SaveDuke4.JPG) (http://mail.moment.net/~michael/CoyoteMailer.htm)
A Tet Offensive for the trolls eh  :D

Glad to have it all working smoothly.

A bit like this JT?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j67Zzt4kQU

I finally see the '20 minutes for the President' as others see it... And it took the mainstream media & anaylsis from members of this forum to set me straight in declaring it a fanfic (Fan fiction).  :P

The way Alex hyped it though did suggest to many avid listeners that it was mega-huge issue / guest (Like Anti_Illuminati's work) than what we have before us but nonetheless I am very grateful for Charlie Sheen to jump out of the foxholl, point towards enemy trenches and say "Rush em!!".

I should of listened to myself when I always say "I'll wait for more information to make a judgement".
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris killz blog on September 10, 2009, 03:24:10 am
couple new ones I dig up

Bill Maher Likens 911 Truthers To Moon Landing Deniers and Birthers- Crickets chirping over at huffpo besides this-
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/bill-maher-likens-911-truthers-to-moon.html

Daily India: Charlie Sheen 'wants Obama to reopen 9/11 investigation' (API just dropped it everybody's pickin it up)
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/daily-india-charlie-sheen-wants-obama.html

First on the scene with something like this, as far as I know.
Obama: Thoughts On Charlie Sheen 911 Letter
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-thoughts-on-charlie-sheen-911.html

I'll post here first as updates become available.

Use the share button on em if you use any of those services. I'm still barely making it on google.
 
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 10, 2009, 09:33:11 am
The National Post (Canada) provides a slimy arrogant blurb -- but links directly to the original Prison Planet story. Excellent!

Scandal Sheet: Charlie Sheen Reaches out to Obama
Scandal Sheet, George Clooney, Sex and the City, Kate Hudson, Charlie Sheen, Jon Gosselin

-Charlie Sheen has just written what might actually be the strangest fan fiction ever. It's a conversation between him and the president about 9/11 conspiracy theories. No, really.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/shinan/archive/2009/09/09/scandal-sheet-charlie-sheen-reaches-out-to-obama.aspx
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RoadRunner on September 10, 2009, 10:22:46 am
couple new ones I dig up

Bill Maher Likens 911 Truthers To Moon Landing Deniers and Birthers- Crickets chirping over at huffpo besides this-
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/bill-maher-likens-911-truthers-to-moon.html

Daily India: Charlie Sheen 'wants Obama to reopen 9/11 investigation' (API just dropped it everybody's pickin it up)
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/daily-india-charlie-sheen-wants-obama.html

First on the scene with something like this, as far as I know.
Obama: Thoughts On Charlie Sheen 911 Letter
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-thoughts-on-charlie-sheen-911.html

I'll post here first as updates become available.

Use the share button on em if you use any of those services. I'm still barely making it on google.
 

Bill Maher is a joke, his political views are simply intolerable for anyone who grew up with american ideology

His ungodly stance on life makes him closed minded and bigoted about subjects he claims to "know nothing about." What I mean by that is he constantly tells religious minded people that he personally has the ideology of "I don't know" yet he tells everyone that all religious doctrine is wrong, well what is it Maher? Do you not know anything? Or do you believe that you know what is right and what is wrong? I do not enjoy listening to him contradict himself so often on his views. Either don't know and shut up, or do know and be the high priest of the athiest religion, but don't claim not to be religious when your preaching anti-god sermons everyday.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: grapecrusher1 on September 10, 2009, 11:36:21 am
Posted this in comments in the National Post.  Bit of a chore to go throught the process of commenting but probably worth it.

Huh?  "sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack?"
Is this true?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 10, 2009, 12:04:35 pm
Alex just said the 9/11 coverup is officially going to court! ;D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Phil R. on September 10, 2009, 12:08:51 pm
My college roommate is currently listening to an Anchorage radio show where they briefly discussed the letter. Of course they had to bash it, going as far as saying Sheen's facts were something one would produce after huffing a bag of cocaine. Hooray for ignorance!

However, the story is going viral, which is great, and sure to wake up others. :)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tritonman on September 10, 2009, 12:09:21 pm
Hmm I wonder what that means exactly.   ???
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Optimus on September 10, 2009, 12:11:19 pm
Alex just said the 9/11 coverup is officially going to court! ;D

He is going to have a guest in a few minutes to discuss this court proceeding.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 10, 2009, 12:16:19 pm
My college roommate is currently listening to an Anchorage radio show where they briefly discussed the letter. Of course they had to bash it, going as far as saying Sheen's facts were something one would produce after huffing a bag of cocaine. Hooray for ignorance!

However, the story is going viral, which is great, and sure to wake up others. :)

If that was true then George HW Bush, George W Bush, Bill ad Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Rudy Giuliani, and about 50 other conspirators would have "produced" these facts to the general public already!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheHouseMan on September 10, 2009, 12:36:45 pm
Alex just said, "I don't even know how I'm going to continue the radio show knowing this. This is off-the-charts. Don't bring the cameras anywhere near this"

Maybe Obama has said yes?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 10, 2009, 12:38:03 pm
Alex just said, "I don't even know how I'm going to continue the radio show knowing this. This is off-the-charts. Don't bring the cameras anywhere near this"

Maybe Obama has said yes?

No, he kinda hint subtly that that wasn't it, it's probably a very positive media or politician reaction.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sociostudent on September 10, 2009, 12:38:11 pm
omg, that would be awesome. It would raise the country's morale, too  :o-- I still don't think it's gonna happen, tho.  :'(
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 10, 2009, 12:40:43 pm
omg, that would be awesome. It would raise the country's morale, too  :o-- I still don't think it's gonna happen, tho.  :'(

What goes around comes around... 9/11 truth is anything near dying off, it's just starting.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: endof on September 10, 2009, 12:42:29 pm
Alex just said, "I don't even know how I'm going to continue the radio show knowing this. This is off-the-charts. Don't bring the cameras anywhere near this"

Considering tuesday, dont go getting too excited.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: InfoTruth on September 10, 2009, 12:42:59 pm
What goes around comes around... 9/11 truth is anything near dying off, it's just starting.

9/11 truth will never die.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: voodo0 on September 10, 2009, 12:44:17 pm
Considering tuesday, dont go getting too excited.
gtfo
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheHouseMan on September 10, 2009, 12:44:49 pm

"This has gone to the highest levels of the White House", says Alex. HOLY COW!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: tritonman on September 10, 2009, 12:45:40 pm
I would agree to not jump the gun in the future would be wise advice.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sociostudent on September 10, 2009, 12:47:13 pm
9/11 truth will never die.

Yep, they can't kill an idea. Unfortunately (for them, good for us  ;D).
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 10, 2009, 12:47:59 pm
Considering tuesday, dont go getting too excited.

endof would have stoned Paul Revere for getting him out of bed.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: N.E.P. on September 10, 2009, 01:01:27 pm
endof would have stoned Paul Revere for getting him out of bed.

 ;D :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 10, 2009, 01:07:14 pm
Considering tuesday, dont go getting too excited.

Perhaps you just dont deserve to understand the meaning of Charlie's gesture.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Dig on September 10, 2009, 01:09:24 pm
Perhaps you just dont deserve to understand the meaning of Charlie's gesture.

he understands, just has the ego firewall set to high, so the understanding cannot pass messages to the other areas of the brain that controls web postings.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Segnosis on September 10, 2009, 06:40:30 pm
Where do you get that idea... Here's how it went down...

750,000 hits on the blogs by noon yesterday... shut down the comments at about 11:15 a.m. to keep infowars from going down completely... all the servers were flickering... there were so many people waiting to glimpse what the big story was, that we almost couldn't get the big story completely posted... but everything was up and complete by noon...

Yesterday was just the beginning, it looks like Alex will have Charlie, and other big surprises for the rest of the week... I was not even ready for this... I got a wake-up call about five hours after I went to sleep at about 3 AM yesterday morning... the phone rang at about 8 AM... it was Sane calling to tell me my arse needed to be online 30 minutes ago...

There were so many people on the blogs by the time Kurt and Paul were trying to post the story, that it took many attempts, and finally it could only be posted in small snippets until finally it required shutting off the comments, which are the biggest bandwidth consumer next to pictures on the sites, that was the only way to complete article finally got posted... as soon as the traffic slowed down a little bit comments on some of the stories were slowly turned back on.

There were totally unrelated stories on info wars, that hand over 1400 comments, not about the article that the comments were designed for, but with comments on me Charlie Sheen piece... it was insane over there.

Add to that the fact that a bunch of new members were approved early yesterday morning... 100 or so, and it was a "Katie bar the door" troll fest for most of the day yesterday... anyone who came in and said, "they are deleting my comments... Alex is censoring..." or any crap like that... especially people who have been around here for a while, and started whelping and whining like mama's boy, Birkenstock yuppies, crying for Obama... we politely ushered them out!

Needless to say yesterday was the most raucous and in saying it has been since the first week of the forum.

--Oldyoti

When my country, into which I had just set my foot,
was set on fire about my ears, it was time to stir.
It was time for every man to stir."
~Thomas Paine, Common Sense
(http://mail.moment.net/~michael/SaveDuke4.JPG) (http://mail.moment.net/~michael/CoyoteMailer.htm)


Thanks Oldyoti

I can imagine the bombardment. It must have been an amazing experience.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: andrenym00 on September 10, 2009, 07:51:22 pm
Here is Obama's response to Charlie Sheen:

WASHINGTON, D.C. (BNO NEWS) -- President Obama on Thursday extended the national emergency declared following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

President Bush first declared the national emergency on September 14, 2001, three days after the terrorist attacks which left thousands of people dead in three American cities. The National Emergencies Act requires each national emergency to be ended or continued every year.

"Because the terrorist threat continues, the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, and the powers and authorities adopted to deal with that emergency, must continue in effect beyond September 14, 2009. Therefore, I am continuing in effect for an additional year the national emergency the former President declared on September 14, 2001, with respect to the terrorist threat," Obama wrote to Congress.

President Obama said the terrorist threat of further attacks on the United States is continuing and remains an "immediate threat."


http://news.bnonews.com/v7w2
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Satyagraha on September 10, 2009, 08:54:19 pm
Here is Obama's response to Charlie Sheen:

WASHINGTON, D.C. (BNO NEWS) -- President Obama on Thursday extended the national emergency declared following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

President Bush first declared the national emergency on September 14, 2001, three days after the terrorist attacks which left thousands of people dead in three American cities. The National Emergencies Act requires each national emergency to be ended or continued every year.

"Because the terrorist threat continues, the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, and the powers and authorities adopted to deal with that emergency, must continue in effect beyond September 14, 2009. Therefore, I am continuing in effect for an additional year the national emergency the former President declared on September 14, 2001, with respect to the terrorist threat," Obama wrote to Congress.

President Obama said the terrorist threat of further attacks on the United States is continuing and remains an "immediate threat."


http://news.bnonews.com/v7w2

Good post... that just about captures the whole deal.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 10, 2009, 11:34:03 pm
Guys the video is totally viral on Youtube, more than one comment per second.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sharpsteve on September 11, 2009, 12:27:19 am
21,054 views
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris killz blog on September 11, 2009, 12:32:36 am
LOOK WHO'S PUTTIN IN WORK FOR THE INFOWAR LADIES?!!


This is how you do it.
I had to beg the editor to put this up because he doesn't like most of my views (lefty) but he's cool on a lotta stuff.  They broke that pic of tha blackwater/dea agent in california infowars linked to em.

It gets on google news watch for it to show up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll put the text here, quite the piece, if I do say so myself.  A fitting prelude to Charlie's astonishing work on this.  

From The Chris Killz Blog
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com

Picked up by:
http://www.salem-news.com
http://salem-news.com/articles/september102009/sheen_9-10-09.php


Sep-10-2009 21:20
Charlie Sheen EXTREMELY POWERFUL Video Address To Obama, Demands Transparency, Truth On 911
Chris Killz for Salem-News,com


(SALEM, Ore.) - Extremely Powerful Video Message To Obama regarding the most important issue of our time.

This follows the extensively sourced and referenced, open letter to President Obama explaining the incongruity of the official bogus 911 report, and irrefutable evidence of a massive cover up.

Sheen speaks on behalf of the families of the victims of the 911 attacks, demanding a response to their still unanswered questions about that day.

He calls for the American people to put aside their differences, and stand as one to finally bring a legitimate investigation to the table. 60% of the original 911 commission investigative panel members themselves aren't satisfied with the fake investigation of 911.

All Charlie Sheen is asking is that you read his letter, and think about the facts presented in it. Do the research. The truth, however horrible it may be, must come to light for America to find closure on the most traumatizing single event of this nations history. We are on the wrong track and a good deal of it started after 911.

Our domestic and foreign policies were directly built upon a shaky foundation of fairy tales and lies foisted upon us by the absolute highest levels of operative power globally. The ones who orchestrated this unbelievable crime are the people that really call the shots at a level far beyond Bush and Obama.

The only thing crazy about this is the ridiculous courage, of a level almost unseen in present day, that it must have taken for Charlie to pull this off. Unfathomable.

All we want is what Obama already promised us, the truth and transparency, no more no less.

I present to you the video that will change the world.

[then it has the video address embed]

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris killz blog on September 11, 2009, 12:45:54 am
#1st on google

"sheen address to obama"
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris killz blog on September 11, 2009, 12:47:31 am
in the first little group in google news for

charlie sheen
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chris killz blog on September 11, 2009, 12:48:02 am
go show it some love  :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 11, 2009, 12:50:29 am
#1st on google

"sheen address to obama"

It's about freeking time!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mr anderson on September 11, 2009, 02:43:45 am
Charlie Sheen claims US government was behind 9/11

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/6171714/Charlie-Sheen-claims-US-government-was-behind-911.html


In the lead up to today's eighth anniversary of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, which killed more than 3,000 people, the actor has insisted there was a cover-up by the Bush administration.

He appealed to President Barack Obama to reopen an investigation into the attacks, the Daily Mail reports.

Sheen, who is the highest-paid actor on American televison, claimed that "the official 9/11 story is a fraud" and said the commission set up to investigate the attacks was a whitewash.

He said the attacks served "as the pretext for the systematic dismantling of our Constitution and Bill of Rights" and claimed the administration of former president George Bush was behind them.

He even hinted that Osama Bin Laden was working with the CIA up until 9/11.

Sheen, who appears in the hit comedy series Two And A Half Men, made his claims in the transcript of a fictional encounter with Mr Obama, called Twenty Minutes With The President.

It was published on the website of radio show host Alex Jones, PrisonPlanet.com, two days ahead of Sheen's appearance on Jones's show today.

Most of his observations make up the basis of all the conspiracy theories surrounding the terror attack.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 11, 2009, 03:22:32 pm
#1st on google

"sheen address to obama"

This are some of the ranking from Youtube.

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Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: N.E.P. on September 11, 2009, 04:50:03 pm
(http://www.infowars.com/images/sheengoes.jpg)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Matt Hatter on September 11, 2009, 05:41:31 pm
(http://www.infowars.com/images/sheengoes.jpg)

Awesome!

I have to admit i was pretty pissed off at Sheen's letter at first because I felt deceived and embarrased, but I have to admit I didnt see the power of this message.

This is now very exciting! If this goes to Larry King it's so on!!!!

I hope more celebreties endorse Charlies Actions! It seems that the only people that get any attention are the celebreties.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: PDA1 on September 11, 2009, 07:45:05 pm
Call it what it is- a hoax!

Deceit, plain and simple.

As of this date the publicity hoax has turned out to be a classic FAIL.  It's now a completely dead issue.  Nobody in the media has done anything as a result of the fraudulent story except mention it with no further discussion of the story.

This hoax has done "the cause" more harm than good.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Xill on September 11, 2009, 07:49:49 pm
Call it what it is- a hoax!

Deceit, plain and simple.

As of this date the publicity hoax has turned out to be a classic FAIL.  It's now a completely dead issue.  Nobody in the media has done anything as a result of the fraudulent story except mention it with no further discussion of the story.

This hoax has done "the cause" more harm than good.

This is not a hoax *censored*, it's a satire - open a damn dictionary. Wake T F up and realize the meaning of having a celebrity taking the 9/11 torch. The media will catch up, if they didn't react yet it's because they are scared and need time to prepare their disinfo "story".
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: eagle74 on September 11, 2009, 07:54:55 pm
Call it what it is- a hoax!

Deceit, plain and simple.

As of this date the publicity hoax has turned out to be a classic FAIL.  It's now a completely dead issue.  Nobody in the media has done anything as a result of the fraudulent story except mention it with no further discussion of the story.

This hoax has done "the cause" more harm than good.

That's just delusional...Its energized 9/11 truth
Title: A.J.'s Fake interview with Obama / Sheen
Post by: John_Back_From_The_Club_O on September 11, 2009, 09:02:41 pm
http://www.examiner.com/x-9341-Manhattan-Headlines-Examiner%7Ey2009m9d8-Alex-Jones-publishes-fake-interview-of-President-Obama-with-Charlie-Sheen?#comments

Ok, so this has probably been discussed three ways to Sunday, I can't find the exact thread to post this.  I just came across above article.

I hadn't listen to much of THIS week's programing, HOWEVER, of what I did, I distinctly remember Alex say that he was going to do a 'mock' or 'simulated' interview with Obama and sheen to allow the audience to get a feel of how a 'real'  (uncensored) interview with Obama would go.

I'm I alone? Is there a thread that specifically address the fake interview claimed by above top secret et. al.?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sociostudent on September 11, 2009, 09:22:54 pm
Notice how ATS's top three stories are all psy-ops.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg413/sociostudent/3differentcrazystories.jpg)
MAJOR FAIL.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: John_Back_From_The_Club_O on September 11, 2009, 09:41:15 pm
Here's something else on ATS...

Knowledge says:
I would stay away from that spook site above top secret. They place web bugs on certain members login event to alert some one with console privilege to watch those marked members when online. That site is a place for foolery and deception gleefully played on those who don't know any better. Its about google ad selling and the money it generates. Thats why you will see in the signup process you cannot block ads or run software to watch them watch you. Spooky!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: SUPREMEMASTER on September 11, 2009, 09:42:07 pm
Notice how ATS's top three stories are all psy-ops.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg413/sociostudent/3differentcrazystories.jpg)
MAJOR FAIL.

ULTRA FAIL..
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: chrisfromchi on September 13, 2009, 11:29:25 am
I've had a bit of success getting people to open up to the cell phone thing this weekend. Its a very easy concept for people to grasp in a bar or restaurant setting.

A really good video would be maybe someone doing multiple tests or many viewers/listeners make short 15 sec videos of them not being able to call out of a flying plane.

Thus need proof of altitude from window/pilot talking and a camera shot with window proof on face of cell phone unable to connect.

You can't use them now...so there you go.

And that day the official story doesn't say one or two calls it was several multiple calls.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: level1online on September 13, 2009, 02:48:49 pm
Joe Biden. Joe Biden. Joe Biden.

Think about it.... What was Biden's connection to 9/11 as discussed in Fable Enemies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32AB8SxK21c

Biden was definitely part of the criminal network that orchestrated 9/11. And with Biden, assigned as Obama's VP, the criminal network has insured that no legitimate investigation ever takes place within the new administration.

C'mon People! I thought this was already established knowledge! Yet, Mr. Sheen thinks he'll get a legitimate interview with the President???

I understand that this whole thing was a publicity stunt to propel 9/11 truth into the mainstream. Fine. I accept that explanation.

But we also must realize that this stunt, also gives credence to the establishment talking point that conspiracy theorists are delusional, schizophrenic people who have imaginary conversations.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: MaxRomeo2.0 on September 13, 2009, 07:57:58 pm
So, let me get this straight. The reason why Alex pulled off the comments was to purge out the trolls and wake up others?

Eckhart Tolle ? REALLY ?

You CAN'T be serious....
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: mike4prez on September 14, 2009, 05:51:12 pm
So, what would happen if every Prison Planet member, or even half of the members made their own video, reading the list of questions. I was thinking of doing this, starting off saying "I" have 20 questions for the President and posting it to my YouTube account and everywhere else I can.
Flooding the internet with these 20 questions can make a huge dent and may make Charlie seem more normal to the people on the fence of truth or those that think he is an aluminum foil hat wearing idiot.

What do you guys and gals say. Let's join Charlie asking the President 20 questions.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Javea1 on September 14, 2009, 09:18:28 pm
So, what would happen if every Prison Planet member, or even half of the members made their own video, reading the list of questions. I was thinking of doing this, starting off saying "I" have 20 questions for the President and posting it to my YouTube account and everywhere else I can.
Flooding the internet with these 20 questions can make a huge dent and may make Charlie seem more normal to the people on the fence of truth or those that think he is an aluminum foil hat wearing idiot.

What do you guys and gals say. Let's join Charlie asking the President 20 questions.

I think that's actually a pretty good idea.

The more exposure the better.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: ethanolwon on September 15, 2009, 10:16:07 am
WTF! Fake Interview.  I feel I've wasted my time.  The facts pointed out are well known arguments.  You destroy the arguments credibility with this junk, send it to some tabloid to insert next to an alien story!.?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Sub-X on September 15, 2009, 10:21:21 am
WTF! Fake Interview.  I feel I've wasted my time.  The facts pointed out are well known arguments.  You destroy the arguments credibility with this junk, send it to some tabloid to insert next to an alien story!.?

Oh come on now this argument is sooooo last week,the article had the desired effect,I was one of the people that would have agreed with you but I have found to be proven wrong,and I am glad that I was  ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Javea1 on September 15, 2009, 05:30:36 pm
WTF! Fake Interview.  I feel I've wasted my time.  The facts pointed out are well known arguments.  You destroy the arguments credibility with this junk, send it to some tabloid to insert next to an alien story!.?

Seriously, you people need to stop bitching about this piece already. Sheen is a brilliant man who does this kind of thing for a living. He's an expert and he knows what he's doing.

The entire point of the letter was to get people to actually look at the evidence. Honestly, who gives a shit if it was fake or not? As long as it garnered the attention it deserved (which it did). How about you actually LOOK at the twenty bullet points raised in his letter instead of bickering about the fluff of the interview being "fake?"

I've heard enough shit from you naysayers. Your lack of appreciation for Sheen's integrity is pathetic and it's beginning to send me over the edge.

If you think you can top Sheen and write something better, knock yourselves out - and publish it here for the rest of the world to scrutinize.

Quit wasting your valuable time arguing about irrelevant info and start using this incredible piece in the infowar.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: SUPREMEMASTER on September 15, 2009, 05:40:16 pm
WTF! Fake Interview.  I feel I've wasted my time.  The facts pointed out are well known arguments.  You destroy the arguments credibility with this junk, send it to some tabloid to insert next to an alien story!.?

Have you seen the video? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: TheCaliKid on September 15, 2009, 05:52:48 pm
I gotta say, Sheen has really put everything on the line, personally.

He has everything to lose and nothing to gain.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Okinawa on September 15, 2009, 06:02:42 pm
Quit wasting your valuable time arguing about irrelevant info and start using this incredible piece in the infowar.

Good point. It is clear that this thread has brought out many criticisms against the delivery of the message and messenger. And thus, I feel that some of the potential of this opportunity was dissipated through "trolls" wasting our time on irrelevant info and sidetracking us.

Knowing that operatives within "intelligence" agencies are a very real part of the info war can help us read critically and ignore the disinfo.

The power of this forum will naturally attract attention making it our responsibility to maintain its focus and integrity.

Thank you moderators for doing your best!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on September 15, 2009, 06:06:30 pm
I gotta say, Sheen has really put everything on the line, personally.

He has everything to lose and nothing to gain.

He just might gain a spot in history as a great American patriot. :)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: RedPillRadio on September 24, 2009, 11:18:26 am
What happened to Charlie Sheen's contest for the best "20 Minutes with the President" video?
I haven't seen any details or guidelines regarding the contest.

If anyone has any info on this please reply or leave a comment on theRedPillRadio.com (http://theRedPillRadio.com)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: luckee1 on September 25, 2009, 03:20:47 am
The G20 coverage kinda derailed us on this one.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: sociostudent on September 27, 2009, 07:35:02 pm
The G20 coverage kinda derailed us on this one.

No it didn't....we just need to regroup/refocus.

If we weren't kicking ass in the infowar (exposing 9/11 as an inside job and getting increasing amounts of support behind us) they wouldn't feel the need to "reinforce" the programming of slavery with such a blatant show of power (G-20).
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: N.E.P. on September 27, 2009, 08:09:12 pm
The G20 coverage kinda derailed us on this one.

I have a feeling the rest of the year is going to be nuts.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: filmdocumentary on March 29, 2010, 11:15:37 am
PBO did not even try to answer the questions, he really just beat around the bush. If this was a court of law the "Facts" would be look at deeply.

It is wonderful how facts of 911 are so easy to put off and made into useless.
Only crazy people talk about 911 being a inside job. That'
s the image the media displays of people who can see a new world order coming because of "fast".


911 was a plot for the new world order, many facts to say that. Again if this was a court of law and the information considered.
.
Where has our freedom gone, Actually what is freedom?

Well free to people the tax man because the IRS says you "Have to pay income taxes".

Why? Because it's the "Law"?
What law?  There is no law that states the people of the US have to paid income taxes.

Just paid it because your told. No questions.

Have we ever know what it meant to be free people?

Most people "think" they are free because their told their free. The USA Freedom is an useless illusion.

The only one i can see sitting back smiling is the devil.

Freedom is a God given gift.
Right now the only way we can have freedom is to earn it.

God bless the USA because the devil really has it's hands on her. This is not new because OBM is in office. It's been that way for years

http://filmdocumentary.org/911-the-great-illusion (http://filmdocumentary.org/911-the-great-illusion)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: Freeski on August 02, 2011, 04:59:01 pm
'Two And A Half Men' Premiere To Feature Charlie Harper's Funeral, His Girlfriends Back & His House For Sale

I've got more information on the shrouded-in-secrecy ninth-season premiere of CBS' comedy Two and a Half Men, which will feature the debut of new star Ashton Kutcher and which I now hear will be a two-parter. I have been able to confirm that Charlie Sheen's character Charlie Harper is indeed dead and the season premiere will feature his funeral.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/the-new-two-and-a-half-men-intel-casa-harper-for-sale-harpers-girlfrinds-return/

Slime.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: donnay on August 02, 2011, 06:22:26 pm
'Two And A Half Men' Premiere To Feature Charlie Harper's Funeral, His Girlfriends Back & His House For Sale

I've got more information on the shrouded-in-secrecy ninth-season premiere of CBS' comedy Two and a Half Men, which will feature the debut of new star Ashton Kutcher and which I now hear will be a two-parter. I have been able to confirm that Charlie Sheen's character Charlie Harper is indeed dead and the season premiere will feature his funeral.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/the-new-two-and-a-half-men-intel-casa-harper-for-sale-harpers-girlfrinds-return/

Slime.


That's okay...Charlie is on the right side of history! 

Two and a half men are headed for the toilet.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen interviews Barack Obama for 20 minutes about 9/11
Post by: SUPREMEMASTER on November 30, 2015, 01:18:02 am
EMERGENCY WARNING FOR OFFICE WORKERS
FROM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7U22m9xLrQ
LMAO @ the first 40 seconds