***Lord Palmerston's Ghost picks Gov. Rick Perry to lead a new American Genocide

[JTCoyoté]

This is the biggest story on the Plate!!!!!!

This is a move by the New World order to undermine the 10th Amendment State Sovereignty Movement. If he can succeed at getting Texas to secede from the Union, he will have accomplished the same thing as the provocateured firing on Fort Sumter in April of 1861, that got South Carolina to secede from the union... which started the domino effect of Southern secession that led to the Civil War.

The people of Texas, need to march en masse to the Capitol building in Austin, into the governor's office, physically remove the governor to the Capitol Square where he would be tied to a rail and tarred and feathered, rode out of town and then thrown into the Rio Grande... 

BEWARE Texas, your governor is about to sell you to the new world order! If you vote to secede it will begin the division of the States, it will start the secession game rolling and lead to civil war and the destruction of America!

JTCoyoté

"...the State of Colorado hereby claims sovereignty, under the 10th
Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, over all powers
not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by
the United States Constitution." ~From HJR-94-1035, The First
10th Amendment State Sovereignty Resolution, 1994

[RicardoCasio]

Geez dude, it was just a comment he said in passing, not like he has drawn up a bill for it.

However, I do live in Texas and I would support secession.  The less centralization of power the better, a new kid on the block is always a good idea.

[donnay]

Geez dude, it was just a comment he said in passing, not like he has drawn up a bill for it.

However, I do live in Texas and I would support secession.  The less centralization of power the better, a new kid on the block is always a good idea.

Then you'll lose all the protections of the organic Constitution.  Are you prepared to deal with Mexico again?

[RicardoCasio]

Hopefully Texas would draft a similar constitution with a bill of rights.

I'm not worried about Mexico, the land of midgets.

[JTCoyoté]

Geez dude, it was just a comment he said in passing, not like he has drawn up a bill for it.

However, I do live in Texas and I would support secession.  The less centralization of power the better, a new kid on the block is always a good idea.

 You'll have de-centralization of power all right! You will also undermine our only lawful constitutional method for de-centralization of power country wide, that will return power to ALL of the states. It would be a selfish move by Texas, one that would lead to civil war...

Time to bone up on your history there buddy! Are you a secessionist? NWO to the core I'll bet!

--Oldyoti

"If ever time should come, when vain and
aspiring men shall possess the highest seats
in Government, our country will stand in need
of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
~Samuel Adams

[uwaf]

Didn't I just see a story this morning where he said he's NOT going to do this "just yet".

[JTCoyoté]

Didn't I just see a story this morning where he said he's NOT going to do this "just yet".

FIND IT... thanks

--Oldyoti

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse,
let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword,
let him sell his garment, and buy one".
--Jesus to his disciples

[RicardoCasio]

Being a secessionist does not mean you work for the NWO, quite the opposite in fact.

[uwaf]

It's on PrisonPlanet home page.

[donnay]

Perry: No Secession, At Least for Now!

Josh Marshall
TPM
Friday, April 17, 2009

We’ve just gotten comment from Gov. Perry’s press spokesman on the governor’s apparent interest in seceding from the union. It’s pretty vague but basically it seems like he’s saying no need to secede for now. But in the future, who knows. Basically it was vague blah, blah sort walking back the controversy but not actually denying or walking back from anything. We’ll have the details shortly.

Late Update: Chris Matthews has Tom DeLay on Hardball and they’re going back and forth on Perry’s flirtation with taking Texas out of the United States. DeLay did admit that secession is against the law and can’t happen. But after saying that he actually seems pretty into the idea. And now they have a clip for Rush getting on the bandwagon too. From it seems like the Republicans, now centered heavily in the South, have found their issue to come back into power in the US — building up a head of steam to leave the country altogether.

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It's a bait and switch to try to get people riled up!  It's not against the law per se but it is foolish to try to stand alone.

[JTCoyoté]

Being a secessionist does not mean you work for the NWO, quite the opposite in fact.

Oh yes it does! The unfortunate thing is that you don't know it yet, you are playing directly into their hands just like the South Carolina delegation played into it after the provocateured firing on Fort Sumter to secede. It makes you an America sacrificing proponent of civil war. It makes you an unwitting anti-constitutional, enemy of the United States of America.

JTCoyoté

"Opinion polls are merely a random show of hands,
that indicates nothing more than who's propaganda
is working, and who's is not."
~Oldyoti

[Freeski]

Bump for interest

[Neco]

Being a secessionist does not mean you work for the NWO, quite the opposite in fact.

Yes but attending Bilderburg meetings does.  I live in Texas as well man and both G.W. and our current governor are complete sellouts to the globalists.  

[JTCoyoté]

Thanks Donnay...

JTCoyoté

“We are under martial law folks, it's just what degree
of it. We are in the pot, and on the stove, it's on medium, and
our butt is starting to burn. This isn't a game. You're going to
get hurt real bad unless you start screaming bloody murder."
~Alex Jones, on the air, 9/19/08

[Neco]

Perry attending Bilderburg.  (Borrowed from the post in the Live Show forum)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90jfQrb4wAE&feature=player_embedded

Bilderburg doesn't exist!

[pac522]

This is the biggest story on the Plate!!!!!!

This is a move by the New World order to undermine the 10th Amendment State Sovereignty Movement. If he can succeed at getting Texas to secede from the Union, he will have accomplished the same thing as the provocateured firing on Fort Sumter in April of 1860, that got South Carolina to secede from the union... which started the domino effect of Southern secession that led to the Civil War.

The people of Texas, need to march en masse to the Capitol building in Austin, into the governor's office, physically remove the governor to the Capitol Square where he would be tied to a rail and tarred and feathered, and then thrown into the Rio Grande... 

BEWARE Texas, your governor is about to sell you to the new world order! If you vote to secede it will begin the division of America, start the secession game rolling and lead to civil war, and the destruction of America!

JTCoyoté

"...the State of Colorado hereby claims sovereignty, under the 10th
Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, over all powers
not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by
the United States Constitution." ~From HJR-94-1035, The First
10th Amendment State Sovereignty Resolution, 1994

I was thinking the same thing. Something to keep an eye on.

[NX]

Seems like someone wants to be reelected in Texas. This is nothing but politics IMO. It also brings out the MSM propagandists to shoot down such a "Traitorous" idea of succession. Olbermann, Mathews and many others are already calling this unpatriotic, lol. Ri-fing-diculous.

[Raincheck]

It makes you an America sacrificing proponent of civil war. It makes you an anti-constitutional enemy of the United States of America.

You have got to be kidding

[TheHouseMan]

The arguments in this thread are a little bit thoughtless.

Yes, if Texas seceded, it would no longer be bound under the Constitution.

But first of all, Perry is in favour of the bill to reaffirm the 10th amendment! So you're wrong in saying he is trying to undermine it.

Secondly, there's nothing to stop a new Constitution of Texas being founded.

[donnay]

Perry fires up anti-tax crowd

04/15/2009

By KELLEY SHANNON  / Associated Press

Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"

An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall — one of three tea parties he was attending across the state — that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.

Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.

Perry called his supporters patriots. Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

He said when Texas entered the union in 1845 it was with the understanding it could pull out. However, according to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission, Texas negotiated the power to divide into four additional states at some point if it wanted to but not the right to secede.

Texas did secede in 1861, but the North's victory in the Civil War put an end to that.

Perry is running for re-election against U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, a fellow Republican. His anti-Washington remarks have become more strident the past few weeks as that 2010 race gets going and since Perry rejected $550 million in federal economic stimulus money slated to help Texas' unemployment trust fund.

Perry said the stimulus money would come with strings attached that would leave Texas paying the bill once the federal money ran out.

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, also Republicans, have been outspoken against the federal economic stimulus spending and were supportive of tea parties in their states. The protests were being held throughout the country on federal income tax deadline day to imitate the original Boston Tea Party of American revolutionary times.

In an appearance at the Texas Capitol last week, Perry joined state lawmakers in pushing a resolution that supports states' rights protected in the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. He said the federal government has become oppressive in its size and interference with states.

Since then, Perry has been featured on the online Drudge Report, and other conservative commentators and citizens have latched on to his words.

After praising veterans in the cheering crowd Wednesday, he said: "I'm just not real sure you're a bunch of right-wing extremists. But if you are, we're with you."

Perry said he believes he could be at the center of a national movement that is coordinated and focused in its opposition to the actions of the federal government.

"It's a very organic thing," he said. "It is a very powerful moment, I think, in American history."

For her part, Hutchison issued a newspaper opinion piece Wednesday criticizing the Democratic-led Congress for spending on the stimulus bill and the $1 trillion appropriations bill.

"On April 15 — Tax Day — some in Congress may need a reminder of just who is underwriting this spending: the American taxpayer. I am deeply concerned over the swelling tax burden that will be imposed on all Texas families," she wrote.

The crowd at the Austin tea party appeared to be decidedly anti-Democrat. Many of the speakers were Republicans and Libertarians.

One placard said, "Stop Obama's Socialism." Another read, "Some Pirates Are in America," and it showed photographs of Obama, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid wearing pirate hats.

Rebecca Knowlton, 45, of Smithville, said she took the day off of home-schooling her three children and brought them to the rally to teach them about civic duty. Knowlton, a critic of the Social Security system and the United Nations, said she felt camaraderie at the demonstration.

"The movement is growing stronger," she said. "You're not alone."

[JTCoyoté]

Seems like someone wants to be reelected in Texas. This is nothing but politics IMO. It also brings out the MSM propagandists to shoot down such a "Traitorous" idea of succession. Olbermann, Mathews and many others are already calling this unpatriotic, lol. Ri-fing-diculous.

If this be the case, it just shows how incredibly selfish Rick Perry is! Matthews and Olbermann are both correct on this... the idea is extremely treasonous, and given the growing 10th Amendment Sovereignty Movement nation wide, secession by Texas is totally without foundation in necessity.

Texas needs to recall that son of a b*tch!

--Oldyoti

"Out of adversity you make men,  
but with plenty you produce monsters."
~Alex Jones, on the air, 09-14-08

[dissident99]

According to this, we are already Sovereign ?? JT Can this be true ? Can you elaborate on this ?.
Source: http://www.texasrepublic.info/
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A Nation Standing Under God is Re-Born

                                                         
                                                   

The republic of Texas Nation 1836-Present [/b]

Texas is a North American sovereign Nation standing under God’s law that is alive and surviving after being fraudulently placed in a dormant state on or about 163 years ago and was released from said dormancy in September 2005. The republic of Texas Nation was brought out of dormancy by a National Texian People’s ballot election for the reconstituting of their constitutional Texas republic Government in compliance with the 1836 organic republic of Texas Constitution as amended and accepted by the Texian People and for the Texian People.

 

How It Started

It started with an unlawful annexation by resolution from the US Congress after a Treaty of Annexation was voted down three to one by the US Senate in 1844. There is no provision in the U.S. Constitution that allows its Congress any authority for annexing a foreign nation, which the Constitutional Texas republic is and was at that time. To accomplish annexation, the U.S. House and Senate passed an unlawful joint resolution using color of law. There was not a quorum present to vote on the matter, so it was passed unlawfully. Further, only the US Senate by a two-thirds majority vote can pass an annexation treaty, and their annexation authority is limited to territories, and therefore, does not extend to nations. Through this fraud, the republic of Texas Nation in 1845 was placed in dormancy and The State of Texas was unlawfully created, by color of law trickery.

Re-claiming Sovereignty

The government of the republic of Texas Nation has now lawfully been vested back into the hands of the people of Texas as a constitutional republic nation. This process is not an act of seceding from the U.S. since history shows that citizens of the republic of Texas never voted to cede their land in the first place.

More Information

You may also keep in touch with current meetings and events by emailing the republic of Texas Senator District # 5 at trep777@dctexas.net.

The Next Step

The legal steps have been taken. The framework is in place. Now we can proudly stand upon principle, not because it is popular or easy, but because it is the right thing to do. Why would we continue to support Fraud? It is time to declare our rights to live as free individuals and claim the freedoms of life in a republic. Unlike democracy where 51% of the people can enslave the other 49%, in a republic neither the people nor the government can vote away the rights of a Citizen. In the Texas republic a higher authority than man grants these rights.

 

Freedom For All Texian Inhabitants

The Constitutional republic of Texas is not, cannot and will not become a corporate member of the United Nations or a so-called One World Government. It is a Neutral Nation among the Nations being of God’s World, where its People will enjoy Freedom from oppressive government, Freedom from direct taxes, Freedom of allodial land ownership, Freedom of Travel without toll roads, Freedom of education, Freedom to own and run a personal business without fees, regulations, statutes or codes, Freedom to defend family and property without being arrested, Freedom of speech, and Freedom to exercise their God Given Rights.

Texians’ Right To Independence As A Nation Under God’s Law Maintained Through Texas Common Law

For understanding what rights the People have claiming to be in their official national name, Texians have to exist and to operate as a free and independent nation. There are two separate fields of study one must address to comprehend its basis in fact. First is history and second is man’s international law, or what is termed in its organic source as God’s law of nations. Neither field of law addresses the total question, nor answers it.

The Unlawful Fraud

Let us begin this quest for understanding by revealing the facts of the history and the law so that you can make your own judgment on the question.

On March 2, 1836, while in the middle of a war for its independence, the Texians boldly declared their independence from Mexico, which itself several years before had declared itself independent from Spain. The Texian movement, which had begun formally on November 13, 1835, assembled and adopted the formation of a provisional government. Texians were at war to free them selves from a tyrannical government, but there are also historical records to show that there was another agenda directed towards eventually bringing Texas into a union with the United States. After the fall of the Alamo, delegates in convention adopted a constitution for the new nation of Texas, known as the republic of Texas, on March 17, 1836. On May 14, 1836, by secret agreement in the Treaty of Velasco with Mexico’s General Santa Anna, Texas became a free and sovereign nation. On April 25, 1838, the United States of America entered into a formal treaty, which was declared ratified on October 13, 1838. This treaty recognized the full boundaries of the republic of Texas that were also agreed to by the Adams-onis Treaty in 1819 between the united States of America and the Nation of Spain, which encompassed approximately 393,000 square miles of land and included parts of the present corporate states of Oklahoma, New Mexico, Kansas, Colorado, and Wyoming.

The Congressional Records of both the Congress of the United States and Congress of the republic of Texas, between 1837 and 1845, show that there had been several attempts to bring Texas into a union with the United States; but due to the aggressive stances of several senators and congressmen, such as John Quincy Adams, they were able to prove on the U.S. Congressional Record that it would be unconstitutional for the United States to annex the Texas Nation or any other foreign nation without proper ratification of an amendment to the Constitution to allow for such annexation. But on February 27, 1845, the Senate of the United States usurped its authority under the U.S. Constitution and started the unlawful process to annex Texas, a foreign Nation. This usurpation of authority lacked any lawful foundation under International Law, Law of Nations and the United States Constitution. The U.S. senate was unable to muster enough votes to pass an unlawful treaty; so they proceeded to unlawfully annex the Texas Nation with a so-called joint resolution. There is a big difference between a Treaty and a Resolution. There has never been a lawful Treaty of Annexation between the united States of America and the republic of Texas. The records of these congressional proceedings during 1845 and early 1846 are quite explicit, with documented facts showing the unlawful annexation.

Although historians argue that the people of Texas voted for the annexation, they refuse to explain why the Constitution of the United States was violated by the lack of an amendment and ratification by the states then in the union. The records clearly show that the people of the United States would not have voted in support of Texas Annexation and that Texas Annexation was strictly a ploy to facilitate United States' invasion of Mexico in order to gain Pacific Ocean seaports in California for certain international interests propagated by the United States.

Some historians will argue that since the People of Texas voted on this subject, and due to the long passage of time, the question is settled. Enter now the twist of history and international law that no one officially wants to face, and everyone is trying to ignore. Man’s time cannot cure actions of unlawfulness or fraud. Only God can forgive them.

As part of the unlawful Annexation Resolution of 1845, The People of the republic of Texas were tricked into adopting a new constitution on December 29, 1845, but no matter how much is researched from that date after 1845 or how much time has passed, Fraud is Fraud*, and all matters regarding the Corporatism, THE STATE OF TEXAS and parts of THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO, THE STATE OF COLORADO, THE STATE OF WYOMING, THE STATE OF KANSAS, and THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA are null and void since 1845 when the 10th Congress was forced into abeyance and dormancy unlawfully, until its rebirth in the Year of our Lord 2005 (160 years past).

*As a Maxim of Law, fraud vitiates any agreement or contract ab initio (from the beginning).

Texians Reclaimed Their Rights

The right of those claiming status as Texian Nationals to reform their nation is a reserved right given by God the almighty creator. It now has been reinstated and there is no court in the world that has lawful jurisdiction to decide this political issue. The hard facts are that the constitutional republic of Texas Political Body assembled as the re-elected 10th Congress in September of 2005. Whereas, the people, replaced the elected treasonous 1845 10th Congress members who violated their Oaths of Office, abandoned their offices, and abdicated their responsibilities with dishonor by not convening the 10th congress legislative session, thereby placing the constitutional "Congress of the republic of Texas" into abeyance or dormancy.

After being brought forward in 2005 from the forced abeyance of 1845 by an unlawful Resolution falsely portrayed as a so-called treaty that never was, the Nation of Texas, with its Constitutional "Congress of the republic of Texas," is presently conducting business under God’s law and the organic 1836 Constitution “as amended in September 2007”. It has now entered into its 4th session as the republic of Texas so named the 13th elected Congress for the Years of our Lord 2008-2009.

The Texians Demand: Let us go in peace

We Texians, native-born and adoptive, simply want to reclaim our Texas heritage. With respect to Texas, the Corporatism United States has violated its own Constitution by not providing Texas with a republican form of government, and has unlawfully compelled the Texian People to participate in its fatally flawed wars, economics, social security, welfare, immigration programs, and its democracy (which was eschewed by the Founding Fathers). It has unlawfully hypothecated Texas land to THE STATE OF TEXAS, and parts of THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO, THE STATE OF COLORADO, THE STATE OF WYOMING, THE STATE OF KANSAS, and THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.

 

The Texian people acting through their body politic, the organic republic of Texas is re-establishing its true and lawful standing as an independent sovereign nation. Peaceful and lawful recognition by the United States will allow Texas to become the republican nation where the main duty of the government is the protection of the Peoples' Rights, Freedom, and Property; where the government recognizes that the People are the Sovereigns, and the government the servants; where private personal Religion and Economics are areas that the government dare not enter; and where the People understand what the true role of government is, as well as understand the true nature of government.

The early Texian pioneers and settlers understood and appreciated the Promise of a Nation operating under a constitutional republican form of government, using only Gold and Silver as tender of payment of debts, embracing the common-law developed over the centuries to protect and secure the rights of man, providing man the ability to own land and property in allodium, guaranteeing that man will enjoy the fruits of his labor without being taxed for the right to earn a living, and providing food, shelter, and the pursuit of happiness for one's family. They saw an opportunity in Texas that wasn't available in the United States and headed for Texas. They were up against the harsh Texas land, an imperious government, and seemingly insurmountable odds taking on an Army thirty times their size at the Alamo, and then finally being victorious in battle and negotiations to win the war and the land, for the people forever.

That is what being a "Texian" means. If you are of like mind we invite you to join us. Our Nation is being reclaimed one living soul at a time. The time is now! We have all the documentation supporting Texas as a legitimate, lawful, sovereign and independent nation that has come out of abeyance to take its lawful place among the nations of this planet. 

 

Written by republic of Texas Dist. #5 Senator Ed Brannum with much appreciated help from others. trep777@dctexas.net

Help us return the land of Texas back to the Texian people.


Donations: Pay to the order of:: “republic of Texas”.
Please Mail or send by carrier to.
Texas republic Trustee
c/o 1105 Lawndale Ave.
Victoria, Texas republic near [77901].

[Alchematron]

RICK PERRY IS A TWO FACED LIAR

Houston Truth questions TX Gov Rick Perry on NAU, Bilderberg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P1UzKmZCSM

Alex Jones Leads Rick Perry Protest In Downtown Austin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnPUOpoXkxE

Rick Perry’s Cynical Effort to Exploit the Tea Party Movement and States’ Rights
http://www.infowars.com/rick-perrys-cynical-effort-to-exploit-the-tea-party-movement-and-states-rights

The New World Order Is Taking Over the Patriot and Truth Movements
http://www.infowars.com/the-new-world-order-is-taking-over-the-patriot-and-truth-movements

The “End the Fed” Protests are the (Secret) Road to World Government
http://www.infowars.com/the-end-the-fed-protests-are-the-secret-road-to-world-government

The Hijacking of Our Movement and the Next Wave of Patriots
http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-hijacking-of-our-movement-and-the-next-wave-of-patriots.html

A Message to the Revolution: The Easiest Way to Destroy a Movement is to Become It
http://www.infowars.com/a-message-to-the-revolution-the-easiest-way-to-destroy-a-movement-is-to-become-it/

[JTCoyoté]

Perry: No Secession, At Least for Now!

Josh Marshall
TPM
Friday, April 17, 2009

We’ve just gotten comment from Gov. Perry’s press spokesman on the governor’s apparent interest in seceding from the union. It’s pretty vague but basically it seems like he’s saying no need to secede for now. But in the future, who knows. Basically it was vague blah, blah sort walking back the controversy but not actually denying or walking back from anything. We’ll have the details shortly.

Late Update: Chris Matthews has Tom DeLay on Hardball and they’re going back and forth on Perry’s flirtation with taking Texas out of the United States. DeLay did admit that secession is against the law and can’t happen. But after saying that he actually seems pretty into the idea. And now they have a clip for Rush getting on the bandwagon too. From it seems like the Republicans, now centered heavily in the South, have found their issue to come back into power in the US — building up a head of steam to leave the country altogether.

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It's a bait and switch to try to get people riled up!  It's not against the law per se but it is foolish to try to stand alone.

Well isn't that special... the other big-time New World Order shill from Texas, Tom DeLay, running as point man for Perry against Chris Matthews getting the idea out there, so that the democratization that has taken place over the last 40 years will take hold in Texas, and hopefully cause the masses to want to separate...

This is really big folks... and they are going to slowly ratchet it up until it becomes too big to handle, if we do not nip it in the bud right now!!

--Oldyoti

"... and at the center of the NWO spider-web,
the Big Black widow, 'robot heart' Cheney..."
~Alex Jones, on the air, 08-15-08

[JTCoyoté]

According to this, we are already Sovereign ?? JT Can this be true ? Can you elaborate on this ?.
Source: http://www.texasrepublic.info/
===============================================================

A Nation Standing Under God is Re-Born

                                                         
                                                   

The republic of Texas Nation 1836-Present [/b]

Texas is a North American sovereign Nation standing under God’s law that is alive and surviving after being fraudulently placed in a dormant state on or about 163 years ago and was released from said dormancy in September 2005. The republic of Texas Nation was brought out of dormancy by a National Texian People’s ballot election for the reconstituting of their constitutional Texas republic Government in compliance with the 1836 organic republic of Texas Constitution as amended and accepted by the Texian People and for the Texian People.

[...]

This is putting the cart before the horse, the states and the people must realize that the agent known as the federal government is rogue and functioning beyond its Constitutional power... under the 9th and 10th amendments this automatically voids the contract with the federal agent... but, here is the problem...

UNTIL and UNLESS the states and the people are aware of this fact... and exercise their constitutional obligations en masse, as individual states severing the unconstitutional relationship with the rogue elements of the ongoing federal power grab, and then by retaining only the Constitutional tenants of the agreement, in constitutional process, bringing forth new guards to fill the offices vacated by this process that are upheld by and within the Constitution... in effect, throwing out the rascals, and installing new, lawful, and Constitutional federal representation... none of this means anything. To begin this process is the purpose of the 9th & 10th Amendment State Sovereignty Movement!

Every state in the Union, is a sovereign nation... and always have been... the infiltration of state governments as well as the federal agency in Washington DC by the GLOBAL CABAL is the problem.  The solution can only be reached when the people of the states realize this truth. This is what we are up against, and to bring this AWARENESS, the STATE SOVEREIGNTY Movement is designed.

Rick Perry knows this, Tom DeLay knows this, all of the New World Order shills in your state capital, and in Washington DC know this, as does the main Media. Their job is to make sure that the people never find it out! Our job is to make sure that the people DO find out!

JTCoyoté

“They [the NWO] will stage another terrorist attack,
and blame it on the Easter Bunny... and then the
government will shutter in fear."
~Alex Jones, on the air, 9/11/08

[JBS]

Not all is as it seems!! The man is just following orders from the NWO sickos that have hijacked the govt (long ago).

Normally I might say: "Good, we don't need the "union" anymore and good ridance to the Feds. With friends like the Feds, who needs enemies? I wish all the states would leave the 'union'. "
BUT at the same time I must point out that secession might be playing into the NWO hands to break up the USA for it's inauguration into the NAU, (still in the denial stage).

But then how else do you get the USA to abandon the federal govt and form the NAU? Nobody wants it so it has to FORCED.

Problem, reaction, solution remember? - I did!
 
I'll tell you. This is my own opinion based on thousands of tiny 'jigsaw pieces".

Make the federal govt so bad, so corrupted, monstrous insane "bank fraud schemes to pilfer money before the economic collapse and whatever other horrible events yet to come for the entertainment of the sickos in control, so many ordinary US citizens being labeled as terrorists and dissidents, a 50,000,000 strong immigrant invasion sanction by our very own govt causing job loss and resource drain nobody can withstand for much longer (states going broke that are hellbent on supporting illegal alien criminals, drug wars in Mexico being blamed on Americans so take away more rights beyond the ones lost to the terrorist hype, create a feeding frenzy so out of control, so ridiculous, so bad that the states themselves are in debt to the feds ("stimulus money") they can't ever pay them back becoming property of the feds, so hellbent on destroying the constitution and the middle class (already done), so oppressive, so bankrupt that the "people" will BEG for the NAU. The list goes on and on.
 
Why else are we inundated more and more lately by the normally quiet MSM with how screwed up the govt is? Why else does our president hold lots of secret meeting with foreign dictators behind the public's back and cloaked in secrecy? Why else does No-momma go around telling everyone that worlds problem are American citizens fault. Why the lies day in and day out? Why else is Dobbs and Olbermann and others allowed to criticize the so-called government on industrial military complex owned media? Why are the pharmas (Bayer) allowed to handle WMD's without being called terrorists? Why is Monsanto allowed to continue it's biological warfare with govt blessings?? You think they are telling all this so it can be corrected? NOTHING is EVER corrected.  Our faces are rubbed in it every single day now. People like this truth, and everyone is becoming horrified at things like the trillions and trillions of dollars being printed up like there is no tomorrow? No tomorrow, that is the key. The money is gone and will be kept by the banker elites. Never to be paid back is my guess.This is something few people see. Hence the new sections for USA to be divided up as it becomes NAU.

They need to trash the government so that the need for NAU becomes a godsend in sheeps clothing. The masses will be begging for yet more "CHANGE". It works again and again.
Also, I would like to point out that all kinds of new agency's are being formed. These agencies will handle things like labor, energy, police, DHS, and all the rest of the USA SS forces, education and so on and son. These "agencies" will replace the govt and come under the control of the NAU dictator. You have to have these agencies in place to maintain control after the fed has been dissolved.

I could post all kinds of links to this, but it is like a giant jigsaw puzzle, when you only have a few pieces, you can't see the big picture. As the pieces come together, the big picture emerges. Most of the puzzle is in place now and they can't turn back and they must move forward faster to pull this off. This where the false flags and economic destruction comes in. Gallons of Avian Flu Virus have shipped already. Pharmas are in control of biologic weapons and freely distribute it worldwide without any oversight.

I mean how else would they do it? You won't wake up one day and "oh by the way, the USA is gone and the NAU is here"!

[JBS]

durg wars? - oops

[JTCoyoté]

durg wars? - oops

Heard your plea JBS... all is proofed... And your analysis is spot on! They are playing both ends against the middle.

JTCoyoté

"I find it very interesting that the very people
who wanted to deregulate everything, are the
same people leading the socialist bail out."
~Jesse Ventura, on Alex Jones, 10/01/08

[dissident99]

+1000 JBS

Understood and digested ..

I was in the Dallas Tea Party and its scary how many times I heard  the general phrase "STOP or Secession will happen".

We Know Rick is all over that, being a Bilderberger and all .. The problem is that the average ANGRY person
thinks Secession is the better solution to the problem.

I wish we could have a way to create something like "The United American States", adopt our Original Constitution, Legally Detach from the Corportation and Give the Federal Government an IOU.
But like JT Says the Federal Government is an Usurper, they have no legal power over us since they are a Fake anyway.

 
 

[JBS]

Thx,
I said earlier:
You won't wake up one day and "oh by the way, the USA is gone and the NAU is here"!
I meant to say, "You might wake up one day and hear "oh by the way, the USA is gone and the NAU is here"

[JTCoyoté]

JBS,

You know, I think the "deep within mistyping wizard archetype" way down in each of us, actually created a great image in that "mistyped" last sentence... it presages the urgency and the finality of the situation beautifully...

I like it... 

JTCoyoté

"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution
are null and void."
~U.S. Supreme Court
Marbury v. Madison,
2Cranch 5 U.S. (1803)

[David Rothscum]

Alright guys, now what is it? Do they want to build a North American Union or do they want another Civil war?

[menace]

What about Georgia's  Senate Resolution 632 that pass by a vote of 43-1 to secede from and even disband the United States.
 
“Therefore, all acts of Congress which assume to create, define or punish [other] crimes … are altogether void, and of no force,” the Georgia Senate declared.

Link to the bill

http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/2009_10/search/sr632.htm

[vcif]

Alright guys, now what is it? Do they want to build a North American Union or do they want another Civil war?

The answer to that question appears to be:Yes, they do. These two things are not mutually exclusive in any way, but rather symbiotic in the achievement of their goals- consolidation of power and breeding dependence on the centralized power in order to subjugate people and remove their natural rights.

I knew Prison Planet Forum would be all over this ploy. The first thing I thought was why the heck is this Bilderberger NWO piece of ^%& talking about seccession?

It is interesting that the initial polls indicate that the people of Texas do not favor seccession, but polls outside Texas do. No one wants to get their hands dirty (yet).

There are many aspects to this ploy that we will need to consider. There may be more than the usual AJ "dual purpose" working here. It is fascinating that they say Texas should secede, but its illegal. It is almost as if they are implanting the idea that the only way to fix these problems is for a state to leave the union, but that can't be done so just sit back and take what is coming. It just seems so orchestrated. How about actually following the Constitution and the rule of law? Some day seccession may be necessary, but all other avenues must be exhausted first. One state seceeding will likely suffer the fate of Rhode Island which suffered an embargo threat to force it to join the Union. (see Hologram of Liberty)

The ultimate cause of our problems is the income tax. The federal government is not supposed to directly tax citizens. Certainly, they are not allowed to directly tax in an unapportioned fashion. That was the only thing written into the Constitution twice, for good reason. The founders knew that should the central government be able to tax citizens directly, there would be no check on their power and that this could be used to undermine the States.

Of course, the two other centralizing mechanisms put in force in 1913 are equally devastating to liberty. Federal Reserve Act and General Elections of Senators.

The States need to start striking at the root causes of our loss of liberty. A good first step would be a thoughful evaluation of the 17th amendment with nullification given the fact that it was never properly ratified. This would allow the States to appoint Senators to block the usurpations of the general government and to recall them if they don't!

I also think it is the duty of every American to learn about the Income Tax Amendment. Income has zero to do with the payment you recieve for your labor. Your labor is not, I repeat not, taxable as income by the federal government unless it is an apportioned tax. A review of the tax code will show this to you easily within minutes. In fact, when you read Title 26, it is clear that most Americans working in the private sector within one of the 50 states is not even a subject of the tax as written.

It is high time for AJ to get Pete Hendrickson on his show.

Please take a few minutes to read this:
http://www.losthorizons.com/Intro.pdf

[_CREATIONIST_]

 General Elections of Senators.

The States need to start striking at the root causes of our loss of liberty. A good first step would be a thoughful evaluation of the 17th amendment with nullification given the fact that it was never properly ratified. This would allow the States to appoint Senators to block the usurpations of the general government and to recall them if they don't!

I completely disagree. The direct election of senators Is a GOOD thing. The direct election of senators makes them more answerable to the public. With the way it is now, if I don't like a senator, we can vote him out. If it was the other way around, the way it used to be, they don't have to answer to the public directly. I think your wrong in ur critizism of direct election of senators.

[JBS]

If a bad senator gets elected, we have to wait for years to vote again. A lot of damage can be done in that time, as we know and is seldom undone. But at least there is public interaction.
If a bad senator is appointed, he/she can be replaced fast. Only problem is - who does the appointing? The damage is already done too. What if that person appointing refuses to replace the bad senator or just pops in another bad one. Who will be the 'decider'? It's a really good way to get your cronies installed without any public oversight.  Nomomma's and Bush's appointments are the perfect example of this. Most people in power can not be trusted, unless it's Ron Paul of course.    And I am fresh out of trust.

[DarkKnightNomeD]

i figured texas would take the lead at some point

[centexan]

How can anyone who reads the news on this site and takes it to heart be in favor of secession?  Remember Iraq--partitioned so it's easier to control?  Divide and conquer.  We should be too well-informed to fall for that.   

Did you folks hear the Argentine economist interviewed on Jones' show the other day?  He talked about how the 5 southern provinces of Argentina were pushed to secede during their financial collapse, but fortunately they didn't.  As a result Argentina is in a better position to rebuild today.  Secession is diminishment and makes for easier control by outside powers.

The way to deal with the mess in the U.S. is to fix the country as a whole.  Texas will probably be targeted now with lots of well-placed ad money selling secession, and we'll see images of the Alamo and the Cowboys and no telling what all, and they may actually succeed in getting Bubba to go along with it.  But I don't care to be the battleground between the U.S. and Mexico, which is what this state would become after secession.  Screw that.  Fix the union.  Get rid of the crooks at the federal level and let us deal with Rick Perry.

Man--the LAST thing I want is to be turned over to feudal lords like Rick Perry and G.W. Bush.

http://www.opednews.com/thoreau022704_texas_governor.htm

I hate to write about Perry without throwing that link in.

[Puff1]

Maybe something like this was in the grand scheme all along.

The Lone Star State?

[David Rothscum]

The answer to that question appears to be:Yes, they do. These two things are not mutually exclusive in any way, but rather symbiotic in the achievement of their goals- consolidation of power and breeding dependence on the centralized power in order to subjugate people and remove their natural rights.

I knew Prison Planet Forum would be all over this ploy. The first thing I thought was why the heck is this Bilderberger NWO piece of ^%& talking about seccession?

It is interesting that the initial polls indicate that the people of Texas do not favor seccession, but polls outside Texas do. No one wants to get their hands dirty (yet).

There are many aspects to this ploy that we will need to consider. There may be more than the usual AJ "dual purpose" working here. It is fascinating that they say Texas should secede, but its illegal. It is almost as if they are implanting the idea that the only way to fix these problems is for a state to leave the union, but that can't be done so just sit back and take what is coming. It just seems so orchestrated. How about actually following the Constitution and the rule of law? Some day seccession may be necessary, but all other avenues must be exhausted first. One state seceeding will likely suffer the fate of Rhode Island which suffered an embargo threat to force it to join the Union. (see Hologram of Liberty)

The ultimate cause of our problems is the income tax. The federal government is not supposed to directly tax citizens. Certainly, they are not allowed to directly tax in an unapportioned fashion. That was the only thing written into the Constitution twice, for good reason. The founders knew that should the central government be able to tax citizens directly, there would be no check on their power and that this could be used to undermine the States.

Of course, the two other centralizing mechanisms put in force in 1913 are equally devastating to liberty. Federal Reserve Act and General Elections of Senators.

The States need to start striking at the root causes of our loss of liberty. A good first step would be a thoughful evaluation of the 17th amendment with nullification given the fact that it was never properly ratified. This would allow the States to appoint Senators to block the usurpations of the general government and to recall them if they don't!

I also think it is the duty of every American to learn about the Income Tax Amendment. Income has zero to do with the payment you recieve for your labor. Your labor is not, I repeat not, taxable as income by the federal government unless it is an apportioned tax. A review of the tax code will show this to you easily within minutes. In fact, when you read Title 26, it is clear that most Americans working in the private sector within one of the 50 states is not even a subject of the tax as written.

It is high time for AJ to get Pete Hendrickson on his show.

Please take a few minutes to read this:
http://www.losthorizons.com/Intro.pdf

Can you imagine Texas declaring independence only to join some North American Union next? I don't see how they could sell this to the people. I think Perry just shot his mouth of while trying to play the "real patriotic texan".