10 years later, the real story behind Columbine

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online article 4-14-09

By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY

QUOTE:
"Contrary to early reports, Harris and Klebold weren't on antidepressant medication"

I'm not fully researched on this topic.  But a quick search on google shows a disagreement.
Such as this one.

Dr. Ann Blake Tracy, executive director of the International Coalition for Drug Awareness and author of Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? - Our Serotonin Nightmare is an expert consultant says the Columbine killers' brains were awash in serotonin, the chemical which causes violence and aggression and triggers a sleep-walking disorder in which a person literally acts out their worst nightmare.

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THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS OF THE COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL MASSACRE (4-20-99, Denver, Colorado, 15 dead, 24 wounded)

--Why did numerous ear-witnesses say at least one attacker was firing a fully-automatic weapon?

--Why did police concentrate on setting up a perimeter at the same time dispatch(via phone) is hearing the sound of gunshots within the school?

--Why did it take police so long to enter the school, and why did it take almost three hours for them to reach the library, the area where the shooters were last seen? Who gave the orders not to go in?

--Why did over 100 eye- and ear- witnesses dispute the official theory of only two shooters? Why did over 40 of those witnesses identify other participants BY NAME?

--If the two shooters committed suicide shortly after noon, as police claim, how come at least 35 witnesses saw or heard suspects/gunshots/explosions after that time?

--Why are there conflicting eyewitness accounts on the place and manner in which at least four of the dead victims were killed? Were victims being moved around? Was the crime scene being rearranged?

--If left-handed Klebold shot himself in the left temple, why was his suicide weapon found clutched in his right hand?

--How did students manage to keep seriously wounded teacher Dave Sanders alive for more than three hours while awaiting rescue, yet he was dead within 20 minutes of the police taking control of him? His corpse was later found with his shirt off. Is that first-aid? Or a sure-fire way of sending someone into shock?

--What was the motive? Why would two teens who were not bullied, did not hate everyone, and were not psychopathic suddenly decide to destroy the lives of a dozen fellow students and themselves just six weeks before graduation?

--Why would Harris and Klebold plan for a suicide mission and at the same time make normal plans for a post 4-20 future? Like seeking help on an English class essay from a teacher a few days before the attack, like making a date to see a movie the day after, like putting in a work schedule for the next week, like going to an out-of-town college with your dad to pick out a dorm room, like making plans to visit your old friends in New York.

--Where is the gun shot residue(GSR) test evidence for Harris and Klebold and the other suspects?

--Why was fingerprint evidence for Harris and Klebold not found on all but two of the hundreds of obects gathered at the scene? Whose fingerprints, if any, were found on the weapons seized?

--Why does the official story claim, without a shred of evidence, that it was Harris and Klebold that set the South Wadsworth diversionary bomb (an incendiary device that exploded a couple of miles away from the school at the same time the shooting started)?

--Why did authorities claim the two shotguns seized had no serial numbers when later documents clearly show they did have serial numbers? Why did they not try to find out who sold Harris and Klebold the Hi-Point 9mm rifle and the pump-action shotgun that were used in the shooting?

--Were the school administrators warned, as rumored? Who was Principle Frank DeAngelis looking for, as reported by one student who saw him running up and down the interior cafeteria stairs right before the shooting broke out?

--Why did a science teacher tell his students that they had been expecting a fire drill? Was a bomb found in a trash can on 4-19, as one source indicated? Were bomb threats phoned into the school on the morning of 4-20, as two others claimed?

--Why didn't the Final Report conclude that shooters entered Science rooms 1 and 8, when numerous shell casings were taken from these areas?

--Why didn't the Final Report mention the brief exit of a shooter on the east side, according to many eyewitnesses?

--If the person seen on the roof of the school was a repairman, as police claim, why do witnesses say he was holding a weapon? Were shell casings found there, as some said?

--Who scheduled 'crisis training' drills at Columbine High Schol(CHS) in the weeks before and what was the exact nature of this training?

--What was a Denver police officer and a JeffCo sheriff doing at CHS that morning before the shooting started?

--What does reputed video evidence from the library and admin office areas show? Why does local media refuse to release on-scene video footage from the first half-hour of the incident?

--What happened to all the evidence taken from the computers of the trenchcoat mafia gang?

--Where are dozens of missing interviews of students, especially those in the science hall? Why are there still thousands of pages of investgatory materials that have never been made public, including hundreds of reports of non-Columbine witnesses and tipsters?

--Why has the school district's own report on the shooting, which included the extensive disciplinary records of the trenchcoat mafia associates, not been made public?

--Did investigators even try to interview Harris' psychologist, the man perhaps best positioned to know his mental state at the time?

--Why did investigators show a remarkable lack of curiousity about connections with numerous similar school violence-related incidents occuring around the same time in the metro-Denver area and around the country?

--Why did LAPD and Los Angeles Sheriff's Office personnel travel to the scene afterwards? What was the subject of a 10-minute phone call made by the NYPD to the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office on 4-20?

--Who invited the FBI and the ATF to the scene?

--Why was the US Attorney's Office (federal) consulted on 'prosecutive decisions' for this local crime?

--Why was all but one of the seven 'investigatory' teams headed or co-headed by an FBI man? (the one exception was a team headed by a CBI(Colorado Bureau of Investigation) man, who was himself 'ex'-FBI) Was the entire crime scene 'federalized' soon after the shooting started, under powers granted by the 'Anti-terrorism Act' ("for the protection of the people and the state") signed by President Clinton exactly three years before- on April 20, 1996?

--Why did FBI special agent Dwayne Fusilier not recuse himself from the investigation, as his son helped make a Columbine school video two years before that eerily mimicked the shooting?

--What were two high-ranking military figures (a colonel and a general) in cami uniforms doing at the scene? Why was a memorial service at a public park afterwards ringed by military trucks? Who authorized a flyover by military jets and why?

--Why did the Federal Emergency Management Agency(FEMA) hold a four-day disaster training course 18 months before, "designed specially to adress the needs of Jefferson County," for future Sheriff John Stone and other county representatives?

--Is it just coincidence that the episode of CBS' television show "The Promised Land" that was scheduled to air that week featured a kid firing a gun in front of a Denver high school? Or that the plot of the WB's "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" for that week was a student gunman and a plot to kill every one at school? Or that MTV aired a Justice Department-produced program called "Warning Signs" about violence and its effect on young people on 4-22-99 (date was scheduled before Columbine)? Or that, before 4-20-99, the History Channel had scheduled to show a program called "Slaughter at Schools" (hosted by Mike Wallace) for May 10?

--When ABC's "20/20" news program decided to do a show about a disturbing new educational phenomenom called 'Death Education,' back in the early '90s, why did they choose Columbine High as the featured school?

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60 eyewitnesses can't be wrong

There is a great deal of evidence that more were involved than just Harris or Klebold. Among the best evidence are eyewitnesses who saw and recognized other participants in the crime. The below lists contains most of those who saw and were able to name other attackers at Columbine, plus a few more whose descriptions of the shooter(s) cannot possibly be either Harris or Klebold.

The following eyewitnesses identified a 'Robert' or 'Robert Perry' as one of the attackers:

1) Cyrstal Archuleta(EP1-197)
"...she did see one person throw a pipe bomb. .....She told me at the time she thought it was Robert Perry."

2) Seth Dubois(EP21-125)
"...Seth told Katherine(Carlston) that Robert Perry was seen shooting a girl in the back while leaving the library."

3) Wade Allen Frank(EP1-91)
"Mr. Frank told me that he thought origonally one of the individuals(shooting) was someone by the name of Robert..." "He stated that the person was tall, approximately 6'3" and kind of ackward(sic) and gangly."

4) Bryan Frye(EP25-69)
"He stated that the person he had previously believed this shooter to be was Robert Perry. .....In a previous interview, after receiving his yearbook, he had told his father that he believed the shooter to be Robert Perry. He also stated that the gunman had bad acne."

5) Courtney Haulman(EP25-91)
"There was three guys. The guy I remember most was the main guy. He's over 6' tall and has long curly dark-colored hair. He was wearing a trench coat. His name is Robert Perry."

6) Lacey Hohn(EP1-186)
"...can you identify or descibe who was shooting? ....Ms. Hohn said that she does not believe it was Harris or Klebold. Ms. Hohn believes it was an individual named Robert."

7) Bijen Monty(EP1-110)
"I asked her if she saw the source of the shooting. She told me she saw who she thought, at the time, was Robert Perry with a gun hanging around his neck. She said she never actually saw him shoot the weapon.

"She asked me if I had any information in regards to Robert Perry. I informed her I did not."
(20063):  "During interview with (Jennifer)Falbo, she stated a friend, Bijen Monte, told her on the night of April 20, 199, the she (Monte) was in the cafeteria by the pop machines when this event began at CHS--Monte told Falbo that she saw (Redacted) enter the cafeteria with a 'handful of things.'  He then threw these things which caused loud explosios.  Monte said (Redacted) was wearing a white t-shirt and unknown pants."
"Bijen Monte stated she was outside the commons area eating lunch.  Heard shooting and then saw (Redacted) with a gun standing over two downed male victims.  Monte picked (Redacted) from a photo lineup."

8 ) Tessa Nelson(EP1-113)
"I asked her if she saw the source of the shots. She said she saw a male, who she thought was Robert Perry, wearing boots, dark jeans with dark hair, walking down the stairs outside the cafeteria. She said the male suspect pulled a gun and started shooting."

9) Katelyn Sue Place(EP21-285)
Kate said, "It was (Redacted). I'm almost positive of it. I remember looking him dead in the eye. He was in my debate class..... . ...Dylan kind of looked like Robert, but Dylan doesn't have the long face. Robert's teeth are messed up and he was smiling and I saw his teeth then. Kate said that she has since seen pictures of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, and she said, "It's not one of them."(Referring to the person she saw shooting out on the outside commons.)

"She remembers him shooting Ann Marie(Hochalter). .... Robert was just randomly shooting. ...Robert was still shooting. ....Kate said that Robert shot Ann Marie before he smiled at Kate. ....She looked and saw Jason(Autenrieth) trying to help Ann Marie, dragging her away from Robert, to the side."

10) Lacey Smith(4470)
"On the diagram she depicts (Redacted) as walking in through the doors, past where she was sitting, and going in about as far as they north end of the school store. It was at that time she heard the windows breaking and then realized she was hearing shots.

"....she did not have any trouble indentifying PERRY when he walked past her. I asked SMITH how sure she was that the person she saw and spoke with was (Redacted). I asked, "90 percent sure? 50 percent sure?" Her response was "100 percent sure." I then showed SMITH a photo lineup which included a picture of Dylan KLEBOLD, and asked her if the person who walked past her was in the lineup. She stated he was NOT in the lineup. .....As (Redacted) passed her and was near the commons area of the cafeteria, she then explained that (Redacted) pulled a weapon out from under his trench coat and started firing into the cafeteria.

11) Brenton Hooker(16397)
"....he turned around and observed an individual he thought was ROBERT PERRY(ex-student of Columbine High School) standing outside the door just to the north of the main entrance shooting a pistol in his direction...." ....HOOKER described the individual he thought was PERRY as 6'8" - 6'11" in height, very skinny, tight black pants, black trench coat..."

12) Tyler Chenoweth(1830)
"A student named Jen Smull saw through the (science classroom)door during the incident and said that the tall suspect had curly hair and was the student who came to a Halloween party as a warlock. He thought of Robert Perry based on that description."

The following eyewitnesses identified a (Redacted) as being the shooter, with the description fitting Perry's:

13) Tiffany Lien(968 )
"Lien stated she believed gunman number one was (Redacted).... ...Lien stated that she was approximately twenty to twenty-five feet away from gunman number one and looked at him face to face for approximately 25 seconds, frozen in her tracks." Tall male had long black trench coat, black jeans, dark brown hair. His hair was kind of long and had curls. He was skinny and his shoulders kind of hunched over. ...She also stated that the gunman had bad acne.

14) Kristen Long(20245)
"Long said suspect definitely had dark hair and a large nose, thought it might be (Redacted)."

15) Rusty Shyler(5464)
"The individual was very tall. ...Shyler saw his face partially and thought based upon his dress and size that it may have been (Redacted). He was a hundred percent sure it was (Redacted). He described (Redacted) as being 6'6" to 6'7" tall and having lots of zits."

16) Chris Thierren(1207)
Saw a tall shooter with acne, large nose, shoulder-length hair. "He stated that the picture he saw was of (Redacted) and he was 'pretty sure' he was the shooter he saw that morning at CHS."

17) Erin Walton(4139)
"Erin Walton said she knew one of the shooters, and that he not one of (the) two Eric and Dylan. ...he was a senior named (Redacted). and he was very tall, had bad acne scars on his cheeks.... "

The following witnesses did not identify the shooter, but the descriptions fits Perry's:

18 ) Pat Caruso(2683 and EP17-13)
"Thought the suspect looked like a trench coat student he has seen before who had bad acne, ....curly long dark brown hair, wearing black trenchcoat.... and a tie-dyed shirt, pink or yellow."

19) Justin Norman(3929)
"Upon the hill we saw a tall guy with blond hair, acne, big nose and buck teeth.... the guy had a handgun and he shot one kid in the ankle and another who didn't move." (Note: Accoding to Norman in a later interview, this was Klebold, though the description is more indicative of Perry.)

20) Joanathan Ballard(1765)
"One of the (trenchcoated)kids(who was walking the halls during the shooting-implied to be a shooter) was about 6'5" or 6'6",.... I later saw on channel 4 or 9 news, I'm almost positive, that same man or teen, on t.v., acting all worried." (Note: this can't be Harris or Klebold, as they died in the shooting.)

Others:
21) Nathan Anema(2359)
"....Anema identified (Redacted) as possibly being the person he saw throw a pipe bomb during the shooting at Columbine High School on 4-20-99. ...Anema stated that he initially thought the person that he saw throwing the pipe bomb was (Redacted)."

22) Katie Beer(6636)
".... when the incident began at Columbine High School, she initially tried to get out of the school by going toward the main doors on the east side of the school by the administrative offices, however, she said she saw a third shooter next to these offices and that this third shooter shot out windows at that location. ...Katy Beer told him this third shooter may have been (Redacted)."

23) Jason Brehm(719)
One of the shooters had a very round face, shorter than 5'11". Not Harris or Klebold.

24) Leanne Clark(1422)
"...Clark told her that she saw who did the shooting in the cafeteria, and that Clark identified (Redacted) as a gunman."

25) John Cook(756)
A couple of weeks after the massacre, "Cook said he believed he could ID both of the suspects if he saw photos of them again." Since everybody had seen the photos of H&K in the media, and knew they had died in the incident, Cook is clearly not talking about Eric or Dylan here.

26) Frank DeAngelis, School Principle(8018 )
"I also assisted the principle of Columbine, who was having hard time giving the pictures of possible suspects to the command post and was present when he looked at and identified one of the suspects he was named.(sic) The male suspect was in the custody of, I believe, Jefferson Co. Sheriff's investigators."

27) David Eagle(1878 )
"The guy with the gun had black hair looked like it was spiked shaved on the sides.(sic) It was also blond on top. 5'9", about 18 years old.

"He has since seen pictures of Harris and Klebold on television. ...David said that the person he saw did not look like the people he's seen on television."

28 ) Ashley Egelund(22671)
"Ashley was in north corridor when she observed (Redacted) and Eric Harris coming around the corner from the library.... She said Chris Morris was armed with a handgun while Harris was armed with a shotgun.(5248 ) ....both started shooting at Ashley.... Ashley did not know (Redacted) at first but she saw his picture in the yearbook and is positive it was (Redacted).
"... No photo lineup per Investigator Battan."

29) Amy Evans(22205)
"....Amy Evans said there was a third shooter and it was (Redacted)."

30) Joel Hatfield(19277)
"Joel Hatfield interviewed 4-29-99. Saw one shooter with excellent description of dress, physical, guns and movement. Could ID in lineup if needed." Once again, this cannot be H or K, as everybody was aware that H&K were in no position to stand in a lineup!

31) Mark Hengel(5901)
"Hengel identified Klebold and (Redacted) from the photograph in the attached 1A envelope.... Also attached is a 1A envelope is a diagram of Columbine High School indicating the diection of Hengel and the two individuals dressed in black."

Apparently the interviewing officer didn't like what he was hearing, and so the interviewer ends up telling the eyewitness what he saw:

"I then advised Mark Hengel that the skinny person he saw standing and shooting was Dylan Klebold and the person he saw standing over the duffel bag was Eric Harris."

32) AnneMarie Hochalter, gunshot victim outside the cafeteria(18218 )
"Advised that Harris/Klebold did not shoot her. .... Has ID on shooters."

33) Leigh Kamens(1422)
While in the 'green room' off of the science hall, she identified (Redacted) as one of the gunmen.

34) Tim Kastle(3416)
"As far as I know the suspects are Dylan Klebold, Eric Harris, (Redacted) and I think there might have been two others."

35) Alicia Maes(3614)
"Alicia stated that when she first observed the male in the black trench coat, she thought it was a person known to her as (Redacted)."

36) Lucas Milne
"Saw (Redacted) in commons at 11am in a black trenchcoat and knows (Redacted). States that Dan Goin and Brandon Little and Bijen Monte saw (Redacted) shooting at school. Milne picked out (Redacted) in photo lineup.

37) Leiha Murphy(3828 )
In the cafeteria, notices commotion outside north-west door. "I saw a guy I recognized as (Redacted). He was running... Stair had his blond hair down. It's past his shoulders. He's about 6', tall, skinny, he was wearing a long black trench coat.... I saw nothing in his hands. He was observed a short distance from whatever was going on at the door. My thought was that (Redacted) was involved if there was a fight."

Stair named in the cafeteria map(see page 3830). Leiha also immediately picked him out of a photo lineup.

"I ask Leiha if she was certain that this individual was (Redacted). Leiha said "Oh yeah, I'm certain.... I saw his face full on. I remember seeing his face completely....(she said he stood in place for about 15 seconds)....I remember him graduating last year." She remembers him wearing 'makeup on his face and hand' and that because of that, he stood out from other students." (3836)
Also, at least four ear- witnesses heard the suspects refer to one of their number as "Joe".(Encinas, 2943, Herivel, 1927, McKenna, 3525, and Salazar, EP21-224)

38 ) Mark Opfer(1064)
"At the time, Opfer believed the taller person in the black tenchcoat who with(sic) the shooter was (Redacted)....."
(25625)
"CHS student Mark Opfer was interviewed on 4-27-99... In that interview Opfer stated that he believed (Redacted, wearing a trench coat) was standing next to a gunman and was involved in the shooting."

39) Josh Ortwein(1939)
"...Josh Ortwein witnessed the shooting and he was telling everyone he saw (Redacted) shooting a gun."

40) Bree Pasquale(18018 )
Library eyewitness, was made to beg for her life. Says the gunman lived down the street from her and played the character "Morgan" in a school play. She knew him, and he knew her. Definitely not H or K!   "...she believed the individual with the 'pipe bomb'(outside) was a former student of Columbine High School."(526)

41) Jessica Rusch(2143)
"...she identified one of the gunmen at the Columbine High School as being an individual known as (Redacted)."

42) Cara Sander(EP25-203)
Describes gunman as pudgy, overweight, very full face, thick bushy eyebrows. IDs him as (Redacted), who is heavy-set with a round face, short dark hair and dark eyebrows. A copy of the CHS yearbook page with Brian Sargent's photo is included in her interview. [John Ungerland(1701) says Brian Sargent has a round chubby face and is a big guy with bushy eyebrows. He saw him that morning at school; Sargent was wearing a short sleeve white button-up shirt-a polo type.]

43) Mindy Pollock(10009)
Sees one gunman outside west entrance, holding a gun on the fence. ...Dressed in a "white dress-type shirt", short brown hair, with a "little bit of a gut". "POLLOCK stated she recognized the lower, #1 gunman as (Redacted)."(1095)

44) Trent Karnes(912)
Says one suspect... had on a white dress shirt or a white sleeve shirt, he was holding a rifle on fence, shooting at people outside of cafeteria. [Note: Officially, both H&K were wearing T-shirts during the assault.]

45) Jen Smull(2182)
In science hall, sees Klebold and an older suspect, 25-30, blond with short, spiky, buzz-cut hair.

46) Valeen Schnurr, gunshot victim in library(18969)
"Per Valeen's mother, Shari Schnurr, Valeen possibly identified her shooter as (Redacted)."
(8798 ) "Valeen indicated she keeps seeing the face of (Redacted)"

47) Jennifer Tindall(1226)
"....insisted that neither suspect she saw was Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold. ...Tindall picked out (Redacted) photograph as possibly being the male in the black trench coat."

48 ) Adam Thompson(21039)
"....he had seen a gunman shooting inside the school. Does not think it is the same as gunmen in the media."

49) John Vandemark(2216)
In the science hall, sees older shooter with dark hair, spiky with blond tips.

50) Erin Walton(2243)
In th science hall, sees suspect with short blond hair-"like he was going bald"-older, in his 30s.

51) Emily Wyant(641)
A week after 4-20, says to the interviewing officer "...she would recognize them again if she saw them again."

52) Chris Wisher(9832)
"....he recognized one of the shooters--the other shooter was the kid wearing black that was arrested and placed in cuffs and put inside a black police car. He said that he is 100% positive that he was the male that shot at him."

(EP6-265)
"Thought he recognized Chris Morris as being one of the shooters.... ...on the west side of the cafeteria."

53)  Aaron Welsh(610)
Can ID both suspects(on 4-22).

54)  Terry Lawson(10020)
ID other than H&K.

55)  Monica Schuster(19470)
"Schuster saw gunman but did not believe it was Harris and Klebold."

56) Lisa Forgen(3005)
She  sees 2 shooters, and tells IOs that she could identify them if she had photos. Interview given days after 4-20; the implication is that they were not H&K. (2+2=4)

57)  Arthur Curtis(19444)
Saw two shooters, can ID them. (interview given on 4-28-99, the implication once again is that they were not H or K)

58 )  Kacey Ruegsegger(128 )
"Ruegsegger did not recognize the pictures of Harris and Klebold she has seen in the media as the gunmen in the library."

59)  Sean Graves(ACSO 633)
"...saw guy with coat and gun standing by (Redacted)--saw his face and he wasn't one of the suspects."

60)  (DRMN 5-14-99)
"...people have reported that they saw others carry stuff into the building."

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    *  In 1988, 31-year-old Laurie Dann, who had been taking Anafranil and Lithium, walked into a second-grade classroom in Winnetka, Ill., and began shooting. One child was killed and six wounded.

    * Later that same year, 19-year-old James Wilson went on a shooting rampage at the Greenwood, S.C., Elementary School and killed two 8-year-old girls and wounded seven others. He'd been on Xanax, Valium and five other drugs.

    * Kip Kinkel, a 15-year-old of Springfield, Ore., in 1998 murdered his parents and proceeded to his high school where he went on a rampage killing two students and wounding 22 others. Kinkel had been prescribed both Prozac and Ritalin.

    * Patrick Purdy, 25, in 1989 opened fire on a school yard filled with children in Stockton, Calif. Five kids were killed and 30 wounded. He been treated with Thorazine and Amitriptyline.

    * Steve Lieth of Chelsea, Mich., in 1993 walked into a school meeting and shot and killed the school superintendent, wounding two others, while on Prozac.

    * 10-year-old Tommy Becton in 1996 grabbed his 3-year-old niece as a shield and aimed a shotgun at a sheriff's deputy who accompanied a truant officer to his Florida home. He'd been put on Prozac.

    * Michael Carneal, 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in Heath High in West Paducah, Ky. Three died and one was paralyzed. Carneal reportedly was on Ritalin.

    * In 1998, 11-year-old Andrew Golden and 14-year-old Mitchell Johnson apparently faked a fire alarm at Westside Middle School in Jonesboro, Ark., and shot at students as they left the building. Four students and a teacher were killed. The boys were believed to be on Ritalin.

    * In 1999, Shawn Cooper, 15, of Notus, Idaho, took a shotgun to school and injured one student. He had been taking Ritalin.

    * April 20, 1999, Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, shot and killed 12 classmates and a teacher and wounded 24 others. Harris had been taking Luvox.

    * Todd Smith walked into as high school in Taber, Alberta, Canada in 1999 with a shotgun and killed one and injured a second student. He has been given a drug after a five-minute phone consultation with a psychiatrist.

    * Steven Abrams drove his car into a preschool playground in 1999 in Costa Mesa., Calif., killing two. He was on probation with a requirement to take Lithium.

    * In 2000, T.J. Solomon, 15, opened fire at Heritage High School in Conyers, Ga., while on a mix of antidepressants. Six were wounded.

    * The same year Seth Trickey of Gibson, Okla., 13, was on a variety of prescriptions when he opened fire on his middle-school class, injuring five.

    * Elizabeth Bush, 14, was on Prozac. She shot and wounded another student at Bishop Neumann High in Williamsport, Pa.

    * Jason Hoffman, 18, in 2001 was on Effexor and Celexa, both antidepressants, when he wounded two teachers at California's Granite Hills High School.

    * In Wahluke, Wash., Cory Baadsgaard, 16, took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage in 2001. He has been taking Paxil and Effexor.

    * In Tokyo in 2001, Mamoru Takuma, 37, went into a second-grade classroom and started stabbing students. He killed eight. He had taken 10 times his normal dosage of an antidepressant.

    * Duane Morrison, 53, shot and killed a girl at Platte Canyon High School in Colorado in 2006. Antidepressants later were found in his vehicle.

    * In 2005, 16-year-old Native American Jeff Weise on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Minnesota was under the influence of the antidepressant Prozac when he shot and killed nine people and wounding five before committing suicide.

Another case involving a school-age youth – although not at a school – happened in 1986, when 14-year-old Rod Mathews of Canton, Mass., beat a classmate to death with a baseball bat while on Ritalin.

And just a few among the dozens of incidents cited, but not apparently related to schools:

    * William Cruse in 1987 was charged with killing six people in Palm Bay, Fla., after taking psychiatric drugs for "several years."

    * The same year, Bartley James Dobben killed his two young sons by throwing them into a 1,300-degree foundry ladle. He been on a "regimen" of psychiatric drugs.

    * Joseph T. WesBecker, 47, just a month after he began taking Prozac, shot 20 workers at Standard Gravure Corp. in Louisville, Ky., killing nine. Eli Lilly, which makes Prozac, later settled a lawsuit brought by survivors.

    * In 1991, 61-year-old Barbara Mortenson, on Prozac for two weeks, "cannibalized her 87-year-old mother …"

    * In 1992, Lynnwood Drake III, shot and killed six in San Luis Obispo and Morro Bay. Prozac and Valium were found in his system.

    * Sixteen-year-old Victor Brancaccio attacked and killed an 81-year-old woman, covered her corpse with red spray-paint. He was two months into a Zoloft regimen.

    * While on four medications including Prozac, Dr. Debora Green in 1995 set her Prairie Village, Mo., home on fire, killing her children, ages 6 and 13.

    * Kurt Danysh, 18, shot and killed his father in 1996, 17 days after his first dose of Prozac. "I didn't realize I did it until after it was done. … This might sound weird, but it felt like I had no control of what I was doing, like I was left there just holding a gun."

    * In 1998, GlaxoSmithKline, maker of Paxil, was ordered to pay $6.4 million to surviving family members after Donald Schnell, 60, just 48 hours after taking Paxil, flew into a rage and killed his wife, daughter and granddaughter.

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**Columbine Update** - September 2nd, 1999
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/read/17174
Cover-up begins to unravel
New Columbine Witness Speaks Out
Columbine Massacre & Coverup Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:49:23 -0600

Organization: EAGLES NEST HOLDINGS All facts appear to be absolutely correct. Not only was there a Major general at the scene, QUICKLY, but there where CIA, NSA, MI6, NATO and of course the Federal Bureau of Incompetence. Consider these points:

(1) I'm not convinced the two boys where the shooters, or the only shooters. Many of the statements taken from other students state that they DID NOT recognize the (shooters)! (2) Why are the STUDENTS who witnessed the shootings talking about grenades, not Pipe Bombs? Because pipe bombs where not used! And it was NOT the two students using them, but black clothed terrorists from the ATF. (3) They DID NOT commit sucicide. I believe, based on evidence I've seen, that they where executed at the end of the shooting spree by another operative. (4) The ATF where OBSERVED planting two of the 30 lb. bombs found, by Jefferson County Sheriff's deputies (a SGT. and a Captain) who are scared witless by what they saw. And they WILL NOT come out and talk about it. (5) Why where FBI, ATF, CIA, NSA and NATO spooks on the scene at Columbine literally within minutes of the (beginning of) shootings? BECAUSE they knew about it before hand and where prepared and ready to go, parked only a mile or two away. (6) Not one so-called law enforcement official entered the school during the shooting. Instead, they cowered outside behind fire engines like the compromised cowards and traitors that they really are. Not ONE round was fired by a Law Enforcement official. (7) In conjunction with item 6, WHY where Law Enforcement officials ORDERED, by FBI and ATF officers-in-charge, to NOT enter the building until AFTER the shooting stopped?

The before mentioned facts have been testified to by many people onsite - among them Law Enforcement officials, reporters and concerned citizens. Whom are ALL being completely ignored? As I've told you previously, I spent the day at Columbine, on the day following the shooting, walking through the school as well. The scene was horrific, and the affect was one of a very calculated, scripted event. Just like Oklahoma City. There is absolutely no doubt that this was a CIA/NSA/MI6/FBI operation. Through and through.
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We have focused often on the general subject of mass shooting incidents; and in particular, has published some of the most thorough investigative analyses currently available on the Columbine High School massacre.

Due to information obtained from first-hand eyewitnesses by means of personal interviews and other communications, as well as reams of other information, evidence and testimony from a truly broad spectrum of different and RELIABLE sources, it has been clear to us and many others from the initial stages of the Columbine horror that there was MUCH more to the story than what the general public was being led--and force-fed--to believe.

This massive quantity of high-quality information--MUCH of it FIRST-HAND, eyewitness testimony--overwhelmingly proves certain points.

Perhaps the single most-crucial of such is simply this: there is NO DOUBT that OTHER GUNMEN besides Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were also perpetrators of the slaughter. No doubt whatsoever. (In fact there seems to be a scarcity of irrefutable HARD evidence and EYEWITNESS testimony that Harris and Klebold were in fact DEFINITELY INVOLVED!) This is shown, for example, in statements made by eyewitness/victim Columbine teacher Patti Nielson, who was shot UPSTAIRS by an gunman who was neither Harris OR Klebold at the school's NORTH end at the EXACT same time other MASKED gunmen DOWNSTAIRS invaded the school from the SOUTH end. Literally HUNDREDS of other witnesses at the school clearly witnessed a NUMBER of additional gunmen. Those unaware of the tonnage of material supporting such an assessment can refer to NewsHawk's Columbine articles still (we hope) posted at -- www.egroups.com/list/news/. Other more speculative issues such as what forces implemented the atrocity and for what purposes can be set aside for now.

In the latest of an ongoing string of such comments throughout the intervening months since the brutal nightmare took place at Columbine High, Jefferson County, Colo.'s chief sheriff John Stone AGAIN reiterated his long-held belief that others were certainly involved in the shooting rampage on April 20.

The Rocky Mountain News quoted Chief Stone as telling Associated Press on Monday, "I've never thought it was just two because of the amount of stuff that was brought in, but we don't have enough to charge anyone (else)."

More significantly, we have just received some further corroboration of several crucial points regarding the mayhem and murder at Columbine.

•A student eyewitness informs us that they were shot at DIRECTLY in the school's lower level during the first stages of the assault.
•This witness did themselves clearly see THREE GUNMEN in the cafeteria area.
•At least ONE of these gunmen, dressed in black, DID have a MASK on.
•This individual was able to in fact exit the school early on during the unfolding horror.
* Several students replied to questions about pipe bombs with the following; "pipe bombs......what pipe bombs? We

saw grenades!
* 72 9mm shell casings where located in places the two shooters where never at.
* Teacher P. Nieson, and two female students where shot at at 11:20 A.M., one minute before the two boys

entered the school at 11:21 A.M., some 20-30 yards away, and opened fire at 11:26. This individual was

tall and lanky, wearing a black jumpsuit as the ATF agents where accustomed to wearing, carrying a 9mm MP,

grinning manically. Nieson was grazed in the back as she and the two students dove headfirst back into a

Chemistry Lab.

•They made note of yet ANOTHER highly significant fact. They thought it was strange that the glass doors at the front end of the school had ALREADY been shot out as a group of students made their way out of the school building, even though they had left the (other) gunmen behind them and could still hear them laughing in the distance. As the group of at least THREE gunmen was still BEHIND this exiting group of students, HOW and WHEN did the glass doors in FRONT of the students get shot out? Clearly this would have occurred when teacher Patti Neilson, student Brian Anderson and others were shot at by what would in fact have to be a "FOURTH" gunman and perhaps still other gunmen at this end of the school, as noted above regarding Nielson's published testimony.

Furthermore, this student witness, after exiting the school and vacating school property, ran RIGHT PAST some unidentified federal law enforcement personnel already on the scene and was NOT intercepted or communicated with in ANY WAY by said personnel!

What questions does THIS fact immediately raise and what does this tell us? It raises the obvious question of how many other people--perhaps PERPETRATORS in the slaughter--were allowed to get away from the scene by fed law enforcement. It TELLS US that said federales were COMPLICIT in the horrendous, brutal slaughter that day--or else they are incompetent morons.

This recent information tears yet more massive holes in the tattered and torn remnants of the official, "swiss-cheese' fable about what happened at Columbine High School on April 20.

In fact, there really no longer IS any viable, credible official version whatsoever of the Columbine events at this point.

Plattsburgh Uncovered
Air Force DEEPLY Involved in Mind Control Projects According to Eric Harris's Air Force "Controller" AND Harris Himself

Two of these recent communications to us in fact pinpoint a particular Air Force base which has ALREADY been heavily "outed" by us in our articles ("The Rocky Mountain Horror Show" and "Putting the Columbine Puzzle Together") on the Columbine High School massacre on April 20 . This corroborates information from other widely divergent sources regarding bizarre covert activities at this location.

The location we refer to is PLATTSBURGH AIR FORCE BASE in northeastern New York State, roughly 80 miles south of the Canadian border. Beneath the Plattsburgh base is a VAST, 18-level deep subterranean facility.

Eric Harris, whose father has been linked to covert AF intelligence projects going back nearly 20 years, lived with his family at Plattsburgh AFB for over 4 years right before moving to Littleton.

We have previously received confirmation on the Plattsburgh base as (being) a location for severe, horrendous, outrageous and scientifically very advanced mind/consciousness-manipulation technologies and projects from a wide variety of sources: from other victims and from those who were in the employ of project operators.

Plattsburgh AFB was by some reports linked in the 1960s the horrendous known Nazi-lover Ewen Cameron, president of the American Psychiatric Association, The Canadian Psychiatric Association AND the World Psychiatric Association, and Cameron's massive abuses in the CIA-contracted MK-Ultra (drug and neuro-electrically-based) mind-control project just over the border in Montreal. Firsthand accounts indicate that this legacy continued at Plattsburgh through the 1970s and beyond to present times with electromagnetic/radio-frequency and drug-based mind control activities tied to some of the experimentation at Montauk.

As noted in earlier reports this Air force installation SUPPOSEDLY "officially" closed in 1994.

However, thoroughly credible testimony from many sources provides clear proof the base remains quite active years after it’s "official" closure. Local residents and other firsthand eyewitnesses report that the base, though somewhat deserted, is currently in some level of operation even on the "surface," AND EM/RF signal detection equipment verified that top-secret operations currently ongoing in the documented 18-level underground complex BENEATH the base. Aside from mind control related operations, signal detection equipment proves the Plattsburgh base is a site of particle accelerator/beam research and experimentation.

ALL legitimate funding for any activity at the base--even so much as turning a doorknob--ended completely early in 1995. The only activities taking place on base property after this date would by their very definition be covert, totally classified, restricted-access operations of whatever sort; operations which CLEARLY depend upon illegitimate, unofficial, clandestine funding for their very existence. Wayne Harris (AND his family) stayed on in Plattsburgh long AFTER the base was officially shuttered.

One of those who has just contacted us about Plattsburgh AFB and the mind-control programs in operation there is a scientist/researcher who was until VERY RECENTLY directly involved in a number of these terrible and inhuman activities. This person has to some degree gotten a conscience about his participation.

This person was in fact personally involved in one major aspect of the programming and training activities which ERIC HARRIS HIMSELF was subjected to at Plattsburgh.

He has informed us that Eric was one of scores of children injected with mind-altering drugs and chemicals on a REGULAR and extensive basis; that his physiological and psychological responses to these various chemicals were continually monitored and tabulated until the "perfect" combination of substances was found which synergized most effectively with the OTHER mind control technologies and programming Harris was subjected to.

He has informed us that Harris and many others were victimized by a particularly SATANIC offshoot of the MK-Ultra/Montauk operations centered at Plattsburgh AFB; which in fact heavily utilized satanic and cultic ritualism, symbolism, satanic psychosexual abuse and the like in molding such "products" as Harris. Extremely racist, Neo-Nazi indoctrination was/is part of this particular brand of programming. These "Montauk boys" are known to make a large percentage of the Goth/Trenchcoat Mafia/skinhead subculture--ESPECIALLY in the Denver area and the closely-linked Dallas-Fort Worth-east Texas region as well as around Montauk and upstate New York, and also Atlanta.

This contact further informed us that Harris's group were in fact "chemical" "Manchurians": that is, of the wide variety of mind-control techniques and tactics used by these Nazi rodents, Harris and others were primarily but not ONLY subjected to drug/chemical mind alteration/manipulation. (This fact makes the ongoing spraying by the Air Force of North America with unknown chemical substances all the more sinister. This crap is very likely AFFECTING OUR MINDS!) Also utilized extensively in turning Harris into a Manchurian killer were hypnotic trance induction and EM/RF systems.

This unfortunate human being had his entire life, his youth, his mind and his SOUL utterly invaded, mangled and brutalized beyond ALL RECOGNITION, then reconstructed by these godless Nazi demons from the depths of hell itself. This BOY was TURNED INTO A KILLER by this wretched, horrid, psychotic fascist filth before he ever had a chance for a life.

Further confirmation of this exact state of affairs came from the mouth of Eric Harris himself! A News representative did some nosing around in Plattsburgh and located someone who had been friendly with Harris right before the family moved to Littleton. Harris had confided to this boy that he couldn't wait to leave Plattsburgh-- he said he hated the place--BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT, BIZARRE EXPERIMENTATION he was subjected to there. Harris in fact referred to the exact activities cited by the informant who contacted us, involving CONSTANT chemical drug mind manipulation. Harris was WELL AWARE--at least to some extent--what in fact was being done to him and he DETESTED IT!

Most unfortunately, things did not get better for Eric Harris after moving to Littleton--located within hailing distance of what is probably the PRIMARY New World Order power base and nerve center in the entire North American continent… DENVER, Colorado. This poor kid was less than TEN years old where his family first got to Plattsburgh and the ongoing brutalization began. The additional horror is that he KNEW what was being done to him and was POWERLESS to stop it! A BOY! A defenseless boy!

THIS is what the New World Order has in store for ALL of us… and for all our children.

What's more, implicated here WITHOUT ANY DOUBT in the "procurement" and psychological devastation of Eric Harris is the boy's father, Air Force spook Wayne Harris. (Wayne Harris has already been exposed as having been well involved with the manufacture and testing of various explosive materials with his son AND as having had significant input to Eric's website and Internet activities. This miserable worm willingly and knowingly gave his son over to these satanic spook slugs for their horrifying projects. He literally SACRIFICED HIS SON to the devil. WE find indications of similar complicity on the part Air Force parents in the current situation involving the L.A. "Jewish Center" shooter Buford Furrow, and the Atlanta-area mass murderer Mark Barton. As well, Atlanta (Conyers) SCHOOL shooter T.J. Solomon (who hears mechanized, robotic mental commands to kill) spent a number of vacations in close proximity to Plattsburgh AFB.

One more quite interesting note in closing. Eric Harris, based on his own personal and direct knowledge of such through his exposure to the shadowy realms of covert government projects, repeatedly spoke to this buddy in Plattsburgh of the impending "takeover" of our democratic republic by the global forces of darkness, oppression and enslavement.
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"Underground" Rumors of Planned School Massacre
-- August 12th, 15th.

This is an URGENT message to parents, students, school staff and law enforcement in this country.

A source who has previously provided News with very significant information regarding the Columbine MK-Ultra/Manchurian Candidate slaughter, widely recognized as a knowledgeable and highly credible person, not long ago passed this following information on to us.

This person, a Denver-area resident with his ear to the ground in more than one part of town--so to speak--has advised us that rumors have been flying thick and heavy among the Satanist factions of Denver's goth/skinheard/Trenchcoat Mafia netherworld that school shooting massacre is going to go down at Denver's CHERRY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, at the beginning of the fall semester next week.

We both concurred however, that as with the trench coater threats for a July 4 shooting massacre in Baltimore posted on the Internet AND right at Columbine High School on the same day as the slaughter there (the shooting spree of course ended up being in the Chicago area), the TIME of this rumored impending incident may be correct (more or less) but the LOCATION is probably deliberately falsified.

Considering what's at stake here, which may be the lives of YOUR CHILDREN, we advise EVERYONE who receives this email to post it as far and widely as humanly possible--especially to residents of the greater Denver area.

August 15th

More revealed from Denver source.

PLEASE read and forward this urgent information below as if the life you might save might be that of your own child, or a child of someone you know and love.

This same information was conveyed about six weeks ago to a distinguished PI in San Francisco from a source in the Denver Goth community. The source, whom the PI considers from extensive conservation to be quite knowledgeable and relatively credible, has stated that the event is already known in advance by police intel in the area, but has been deliberately ignored.

It has been my experience too that stories of this sort are diversionary - i.e., the real target is planned elsewhere. We have heard the date September 9 (which from an occult standpoint is a powerful, apocalyptic day - 9/9/99). We have also heard that the Dallas-Forth Worth area is a likely target area (there are close linkages between the Dallas and Denver trench coaters). Keep an eye on Allen, Texas - a far north Dallas suburb which has many of the social characteristics of Littleton - and where threats closed schools there late last spring.

But keep in mind that the more public awareness there is of a possible target, the less likely anything will probably happen at all.
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Harris poem
August 5th, 1999

Several days back we sent out a "poem" written by Eric Harris of Littleton. Never mind his questionable talents as a wordsmith. We felt this poem was exceptionally significant because in it Harris gives voice to not only some clues about his overall state of mind but ALSO to something much "larger" and far-reaching going on with school violence than just Eric Harris's participation alone! Harris in fact describes the entire horrendous spate of school shooting incidents as part of a "LARGER" plan, taking place on a pre-determined basis both in terms for LOCATIONS and TIMING of such deeply shocking, planned and SCRIPTED episodes.

For one thing, this writing of Harris's gives CLEAR indication that there is MUCH MORE to what happened at Columbine AND at all the other schools where similar events occurred than JUST some unhinged teenagers going wacko with guns. MUCH MORE! Realistically this could ONLY mean an operation masterminded by an "agency" of the (covert) federal government, due to the scope of the plan, it's logistical complexity, and in light of the TRUCKLOAD of evidence showing complicity of TONS federal agents in the Columbine nightmare alone.

This writing gives SOLID indications that Harris, Klebold, Kip Kinkel in Springfield Oregon, Golden and Johnson in Jonesboro Arkansas, back to Luke Woodham in Pearl Mississippi, were ALL acting in accordance with a preconceived plan and pattern.

CLEARLY this strongly supports the position of News Inc. as stated in numerous articles we've published about the Columbine slaughter and other such incidents. That is: that these incidents are scripted, planned and executed by covert military/intelligence agencies of the federal government, utilizing SEVERELY mind-controlled subjects/victims/agents like Harris as well as other, more "senior" mind controlled operatives, in caring out such incidents of mind-boggling horror and brutality

Harris plainly writes that there is an "END" (result) for which these incidents of incomprehensible and inhuman violence area BUT THE MEANS!

He indicates that this "grand finale" will occur at "4-20"; at "Kringle".

There are two maps on the web which show how school shooting incidents--and in one case also some other events like the OKC bombing and the MICHAEL Kennedy "accident"--connect together in straight lines. Both maps have one line in common: one map, which shows ONLY school shooting incidents, has two lines, which intersect at HOPE Arkansas (where Clinton was raised). Hmmm!

The map with ONLY school shooting incidents is at: http://ftp://ftp.anomalous-images.com/pub/anomalou/xMarksTheSpot.jpg

The other map is at Sollog's website: http://www.sollog.com

I think Harris's poem should be taken as the obvious warning that it is. Unfortunately the phraseology is a bit cryptic: but it behooves all of us to try and figure out what Harris is really saying here.

In my estimation he was obviously VERY aware of a bigger scheme at work than just having youngsters shoot other youngsters.

We need to understand what this "scheme" is and what is planned next!

Don't forget: Eric Harris was NOT exactly "himself" when he wrote this, and when he did many other things. This unfortunate individual was mind-controlled to the HILT.

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420 - 420 is the day 420 shows 'em all that I am not gay
420 - 420 is the date of my deed 420 will be what I will need
420 - 420 comes from seed 420 is what I call weed
420 - 420 will put me in the mood 420 my life will be just like doom
420 - 420 will give me great big balls 420 will make we laugh when I walk the halls
420 - 420 will be when I show 'em all 420 will be their down fall
420 - 420 is the 110th year of the one they all feared 420 is the 110th day and it draws very near
420 - 420 is 3 years and 1 day 420 is 6 years and 1 day
420 - 420 starts a line that began with Woodham, and it is a very simple riddle 420 ends the line on the way to Kringle, I am on the line in the middle
420 - 420 will connect all the school shootings on the Line 420 will show that the Line belongs to Sollog the Lord of upside down Nines
420 - 420 is chapter and verse in a book that explains my Job very well 420 is verse and chapter about the beast from hell
420 - 420 they will want to put me in a cell 420 I will be sent back to hell
420

(Poem was reportedly released on the Sollog web site the day of the shooting -- the validity of this poem is not confirmed!)
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Was A July 4 Attack Planned... Near Chicago?

July 6th, 1999

Last week News sent out a reminder about the fact that immediately AFTER the Columbine massacre in April, warnings were posted on the Internet AND at Columbine High School that Trenchcoat Mafia planned another shooting attack on July 4 in Baltimore, Md.

Although obviously and thankfully no such event did occur in BALTIMORE, there was some genuinely disturbing news from a little further west.

Late last week just as the July 4th weekend kicked off, "crazed" "white supremacist" Benjamin Smith reportedly began his 3-and-a-half-day odyssey of death and terror.

It is NOW clear Smith WAS en route to a July 4 gathering with thousands attending on Sunday evening, where he planned to shoot large numbers of people!

Though there is little doubt Smith was ONE of such shooters, there is no denying that Smith seemed to have traversed a fairly noteworthy amount of territory during his rampage; leading to reasonable speculation that more than ONE such gunman COULD have been involved in the overall scheme of things. It obviously wouldn't be beyond the bounds of reason OR even of a fairly limited budget for 2 or more assailants to have the same model, EASILY identifiable BLUE (how many people have seen BLUE Ford Tauruses? Hands please!) Ford Taurus.

There seems to have been some method to this LATEST madness however, as Smith (and Co.?) was particularly intent on killing members racial/ethnic and religious minorities. It turns out he had a fairly extensive list of prior run-ins with school administrators ands the law: mostly because of activities related to his EXTREME, virulent, hate-obsessed racist/white supremacist views.

Of course it can't be forgotten that at least Eric Harris, of the KNOWN Columbine shooters, was known to depise racial and religious minorites and others deemed inferior by the NAzi philospohies they found so compelling: in fact targeting Isaiah Shoels because he was a black person and others, including Cassie Bernall and Rachel Scott, because they "believed in God."

But of COURSE, despite Smith's conflicts with school administration and law enforcement due to his known prosensity for expounding inflamatory racist doctrines, apparently NOBODY in law enforcement nor anyone else thought this lunatic the LEAST BIT capable of ever doing anything SERIOUS about his constantly expressed views (shades of Eric Harris!)!

Either that or else someone higher up the food chain pressured local authorities to keep Benjamin Smith free, unencumbered and on the street-- just "in case" he might be needed for something...

As noted no shooting incident occurred at Baltimore's Independence Day festivities.

Though nothing happened in Baltimore, what ABOUT this mid-West supremacist murderer? Makes me wonder if this guy hadn't been pre-wired and pre-progammed for something "bigger"--something just like the threatened July 4th trenchcoat "massacre!"

Maybe even tho' the scheduled "festivities" in Baltimore had been called off he was sort of still running around like a chicken with it's head (leader) cut off.

Yet we DO find out the following information about Smith however, which raises again a point brought up in our reminder bulletin last week: that although the DATE posted for the threatened July 4 "massacre" may well have been correct, the LOCATION posted could well have been disinformation!

For example, perhaps the massacre had NOT been called off but was to be ELSEWHERE--like near Chicago!

Perhaps this "massacre" had been PLANNED to specifically target MINORITIES at a July 4 celebration but gunman Smith (and/or others?) in some way activated a little too soon, thus blowing the larger operation.

Check this out. According to ABC News, 7/6/99: "Smith fatally shot himself Sunday night as he led police on a chase that was HEADED TOWARD 2,000 PEOPLE GATHERED FOR A JULY 4th CELEBRATION (emphasis mine).

"'Our main target was to get him stopped before he got there, but fortunately he did that for us,' said Marion County sheriff’s deputy Todd Garden."

Of course; how convenient. Once again the shooter who up till the very end was CLEARLY hellbent on some SERIOUS mayhem and murder, suddenly turns his weapon on himself. Supposedly. Contrary to all previous indications, he commits suicide.

OR the shooter has it "committed" for him.

Ed. Note:

It is now revealed that 21 year old Benjamin Smith, a student at Indiana University, was connected to a "white supremacist" church called "World Church of the Creator". (source)

"'As soon as we learned of these crimes, we met with the Chicago police department and recommended that the WCOTC and its members should be looked at very closely,' said Harlan Loeb, Midwest counsel for the Anti-defamation League and a friend of one of the victims.

"The Anti-defamation League in Chicago began monitoring Smith over a year ago after he began leafletting racist and anti-Semitic literature, according to Loeb." (source)

Conspiracy theorist William Cooper commented on the shooting by saying, "In all my years of research I have never seen a story which more clearly exhibits the symptoms of a man who is a victim of a mind control operation; right down to the ending 'suicide' scenario, Benjamin Nathaniel Smith displays every single classic symptom that we know." Cooper notes the Anti-defamation League as a possible conspiritor in the possible mind control operation. (source)
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June 28th, 1999

PUTTING THE COLUMBINE PUZZLE TOGETHER
Contents of article: Stone Talks/Other Shooters Involved

"Behind The Scenes" of The Columbine Massacre-- Big "players" and lower-level operatives

Cults and Satanic Ritual Psychosexual Abuse
Anomalies re: Wayne Harris, Fuselier, Klebold Brown and Others
FBI’s Special Effects on School Security Video!
Nearby Homes Used For Sharpshooting/By Whom--AT Whom?
--And More

Preface

We took pains to indicate in this article that a request for clarification about conflicting statements on the part of Brooks Brown is absolutely NOT meant to imply complicity. It is a matter of public record that his statements have varied about the incident in question. We expressly DID NOT speculate on the meaning of these discrepancies; only noted that they deserve to be cleared up.

Regarding other parties mentioned but not specifically identified who have been cited by reliable sources as rumored (or more) to have been connected, in varying ways to varying degrees, to the massacre, based on indications ranging from certain or near-certain to more circumstantial; in each instance the level and quantity of evidence is described. Totally unsubstantiated rumors are NOT referred to or promulgated in the report.

Foreword

We ask of all, for the sake of all the children, to assist in bringing this overwhelmingly significant information to the widest attention possible.

In addition we especially ask any Littleton/Denver-area residents to ASSIST in pulling various elements together at this time. In whatever way and to whatever extent possible, attempt to get statements, information or other leads or evidence from witnesses to events at the school on 4/20/99, and forward the information to News and/or Chief Stone ONLY of the Sheriff’s department.

If necessary or desired by such witnesses their names could of course be withheld. Anything anyone can do in this regard would be tremendously helpful.

We NEED MORE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, now that the wall of coverup and secrecy has to some extent cracked and key elements of the truth ARE leaking out.

SHERIFF STONE BREAKS LONG SILENCE
Convinced Others Involved in Slaughter

Jefferson County’s head sheriff John Stone, speaking with firm conviction in an interview published June 19, 1999, made it decisively clear once and for all that he is CONVINCED Harris and Klebold had accomplices in the planning and execution of the shooting rampage at Columbine High School April 20.

Breaking a long public silence about the horror which occurred on his watch, Stone stated while talking with a reporter from APB Online that the sheer weight of evidence and testimony regarding such collaboration makes this conclusion unavoidable and undeniable.

Stone let it be known that such leads and evidence must be pursued to the utmost extent until the truth is brought to light and justice is served, and that the community, not to mention the nation, can not rest easy regarding the nightmarish slaughter until this comes to pass.

To quote the APB Online article here: 'Feeling burned by the coverage, Stone will no longer identify suspects, except to say he still believes the two killers had help in their plot to storm the school.

"I’ve said all along there were more people involved and nothing has changed my thinking,” he said. “There probably will be a lot of anxiety in this community until this investigation is wrapped up."' (©1999 APB Online All rights res.)

Notably, the article pointedly defines the vicious murder and mayhem carried out at the school that day as a "commando style raid," a truly significant point which correlates very closely with the latest astonishing leads just passed on to News by local sources. Following the text of the Stone interview is information on these leads and some of their incredible implications. It’s reasonable to assume that this description of the horror may well be due to certain information relayed by Stone to his interviewers off-the-record and not published in the article.

There was a tremendous amount of unavoidable and compelling evidence at the scene indicating extensive and unexplained presence of paramilitary units, covert "special forces" operatives along with federal intelligence/law enforcement agencies onsite, which is clear and well-known to many, including of course Sheriff Stone. Moreover there are indications of direct involvement on the part of certain of these agencies, as will be shown in this report.

As well, Stone reaffirms his knowledge that Eric Harris’s father Wayne was without doubt incomprehensibly and unconscionably negligent as a parent in taking serious preventive and corrective action concerning unavoidably obvious indications that a great number of Eric’s actions, interests and proclivities were blatantly destructive, dangerous, hate-obsessed, and in general highly disturbed and troubling. Stone seems to imply in fact that Wayne Harris may have been more than just negligent.

Sheriff Stone’s very important statements affirm this MOST crucial fact - there were more than just TWO shooters.

In conjunction with the recently published earthshaking remarks by Columbine teacher and witness P. Nielson which clearly indicate the active presence of other assailants in the massacre, Sheriff Stone's comments have truly capsized the prevailing party line on the massacre, yet that's the version being disseminated by lower-ranking members of Stone's own department!

Clearly the officers in charge of the Columbine investigation are those securely under the thumb of the FBI and other federal forces. Stone, though department chief and cognizant of the undeniable presence of other shooters, is NOT leading the investigation. It's an undeniably jarring experience all around on this issue at this point.

AN EXTENSIVE CAST AT COLUMBINE

Operatives of certain agencies such as: NATO units--including a two-star general in non-U.S. uniform; FBI and BATF cadres and other "special forces" units are known to have been at the site either as soon as or before the atrocity began. Operatives of one such agency known as SOG (Strategic Operations Group), were directly involved in the shooting- -according to the blatant admission of one SOG agent.

Large numbers of people have stated in emails to News they saw "paramilitary" teams in SWAT-type gear with NATO body shields on live camera feeds from the scene as soon as TV crews arrived: indicating clearly they were there BEFORE the TV crews! We now know from teacher P.Nielson's statements that press choppers were there well before LOCAL law enforcement arrived. Also spotted was a large light-blue NATO truck with insignia, within 15 minutes of the onset of the shooting. How long these personnel had been there already is anyone's guess. But there are reports from students who claim they witnessed paramilitary personnel in very dark or black clothing on the roof of Columbine earlier in the morning on April 20! Furthermore CNN’s own reporters reviewed their footage and on 4/22/99 asked Sheriff Steve Davis point- blank to explain the verified presence of a two-star General at the scene within minutes of the outbreak of shooting. Davis ducked…hard. It was subsequently established this general was NOT wearing a U.S. uniform!

As stated FBI and other U.S. "federales" were, quite suspiciously, on the scene immediately (or sooner) and preempted involvement by local authorities immediately. The scene was federalized instantaneously--in complete contradiction of any remotely legitimate, standard procedures.

Information recently received by News from a very solid source provided strong indications that operatives of the ultra-secret agency named SOG (Strategic Operations Group) were directly involved in the slaughter. Some aspects of this information would appear to indict specific elements of the upper reaches of global, political power regarding complicity in what happened at Columbine.

Strategic Operations Group is a deeply covert military/intelligence "black ops" agency known to specialize in ultra-classified, "terrorist" -type actions.

Interestingly there is another reading of the acronym SOG: Sons Of Gestapo. This is what was scrawled on a note found at the scene of the Gila Bend, Arizona Amtrak derailment in 1995. Take your pick. Whatever their real name the end result when these monsters take action is the same. Lots of dead bodies left behind as these agents finish up another assignment designed to look like a terrorist attack of some kind as opposed to the most carefully contrived, planned, scripted, staged and implemented event it really is: an event contracted by those with ties to the wielders of global socio-political might and international power-broking at the upper levels.

HOW THEY GET AND USE THE KIDS

At this point in time there's a vast body of evidence proving the existence of numerous government-sponsored mind control experiments and operations; and that children of varying ages are the predominant targets of these inherently and blatantly evil, Nazi-like activities. Again, there's voluminous evidence showing how vast numbers of our young people are siphoned off into environments and situations where cult-like mind control and indoctrination programming is implemented upon them; utilizing different organizations from day care and foster care facilities at younger ages to the likes of boy scout troops and similar groups in regard to older youngsters. These cover operations are manipulated and operated behind the scenes by covert, "rogue" government agencies and their cohorts both in the underworld and in multinational financial interest groups: in other words, elements quite like those said to be involved to a noteworthy extent in the massacre.

The conclusion here is that undoubtedly Eric Harris, most likely Klebold and doubtless at least some of the other murderers certain to have been involved, were long-term subjects of a variety of mind control and indoctrination experiments and projects: they were to a large extent near-unilaterally manipulated persons, at least in their actions at Columbine High School. They were, most certainly, mind controlled.

Preexisting socially, religiously or otherwise boundaried groups and organizations, or sub-groups thereof (Trenchcoat Mafia), are often used; sometimes new groups are initiated/instigated and formed, as a means of subjecting targeted youngsters to a very wide variety of mind-, mood-, and thought-control tactics, techniques and activities. The basic belief system and sizable percentage of the total sensory and conceptual input on the part of the group's members is extensively controlled as well--due to it's very isolation from more mainstream social contexts and activities. Ritualistic, "satanic" psychosexual abuse and hypnotic trance induction are MAJOR aspects of the many tactics used to literally destroy targeted subjects in fundamental spiritual and psychological ways; and subsequently reprogram and rebuild the shattered individual along desired lines.

There is another important aspect to the atrocity at Columbine which delineates the link between very high levels of geopolitical power straight to the cult-like social sub-groupings such as certain goth factions and Trenchcoat Mafia offshoots, according to a source widely considered quite credible.

In Denver, a city of many strange secrets, even that icon of apple pie America, the Boy Scouts, has not remained untainted by the pall cast by creepy, spooky, crytpo-Nazi offshoots connected in very real and serious ways to the seamy underside of the highest levels of political power in this country and in the world. They may be following the Boy Scout dictum "be prepared" in some inverted and horrific way, but surely not in the way MOST moms, dads, and youngsters would ever imagine.

It was indicated to us by this source that rumors are a Scoutmaster of a Denver scout troop is a thoroughly goth-oriented individual who is also the SOG member cited above. This person has actually made statements to the effect that he was directly involved in the murders at Columbine. These statements were made the very day after the massacre. Apparently this person literally feels invincible to any repercussions from such involvement in mass murder and mayhem, and is completely remorseless as well. He has alos stated on several occasions that he considered (he is no longer a scout
master) the Boy Scouts an "excellent recuriting ground". Check out your Scout Masters, folks.

According to the same source, this scout troop is thought to serve as a training ground of sorts for particular youngsters possessing certain desirable characteristics deemed likely prospects to become future operatives for agencies like SOG--carrying out terrorist-type actions solely engineered and implemented to cause massive sociological shock and stress; as a means of manipulating public belief, opinion, and thought.

This scout troop is said to be funded by certain real estate interests and other parties who have previously loomed large in the massive Silverado Savings and Loan swindle.

Additionally it's suspected that a foreign national active in Denver's higher education organizations, who has extensive ties to the higher levels of current geopolitical power, provides both doctrinal and financial input to the scout troop and likely to related "operations."

Other strands of this web are rumored to involve certain of the owners/ managers of the pizza parlor in which Harris, Klebold and recently- arrested Phil Duran all worked, about a quarter mile from Columbine school. The party in question is thought to originate in the Dallas area, and to be linked to east Texas real estate and financial organizations directly involved with participants in the Silverado shenanigans. The rumors are of close involvement on the part of restaurant interests in implementing the massacre.

MACHIAVELLIAN THUGGERY ON THE GLOBAL SCALE

Usually, such incidents as the Columbine shootings are mercilessly and brutally enacted primarily for the express purpose of manipulating and molding the beliefs and conceptual framework of the public at large at the most fundamental levels.

The reason? Most certainly, at least in part: the massive manipulation of the people through acts of unimaginable brutality and incomprehensible viciousness, designed to have tremendous psychological/ subliminal impact on the public; for the purpose of inducing the populace to further WILLINGLY permit federal agencies beholden to "New World Order" interests to curtail and/or ELIMINATE a substantial percentage of our "freedoms" and rights (to the extent such still exist) in order that the government may more efficiently "protect us" from such madness in the future.

Such madness, that is, other elements of this same "government"/big-scale protection racket were directly responsible for implementing. Such horrendous incidents are NOT a result of too many kids having too much access to guns. In past eras of American history, many individuals in their teens often had direct access to firearms. Mass murders of peers and others remotely akin in any way to the current outbreak of school horrors were totally unheard of; nor is there any known parallel in any other society in human history.

Any conceivable explanation for such incidents as being some previously unheard of but genuine psychotic social aberration flies in the face of all existing evidence regarding the admittedly myriad complexities of human nature. The entire phenomenon has clearly been instigated, scripted and manipulated.

This is the same type of tactic used on a smaller scale by criminals and thugs who offer "protection" to individuals and organizations, for a "fee," from pernicious activities initiated by other members of the same criminal groups!

Classic stuff: Gangsterism and Thuggery 101A.

On a much bigger scale, corrupted and malignant governments carry out operations like Columbine, so we will accept their "protection" from the lawless mayhem emanating, we are led to believe, only from bizarre, cultural sub-groups and cults.

To whatever extent such groups are actively used in such operations as the Columbine atrocity, these cult-like organizations almost universally have either been SET UP by, or quickly infiltrated and manipulated by covert government operatives and utilized for the purpose of mind control/indoctrination of group members for desired agendas. Case in point: the Trenchcoat Mafia crowd: by many indications a relatively non-threatening cluster until infiltrated by young Fuselier, Klebold and later Harris: people with notably different ideas about things than some of the earlier trenchcoaters. Fuselier, Klebold, Harris and some associates were indeed outcasts within a fringe group.

Additionally the government’s own "thugs" are active, usually DOMINANT participants in whatever lawless mayhem is brought about by unfortunate subjects of such cults; atrocities enacted to further major socio-political agendas.

These are Machiavellian tactics to the utmost. The game being played? "Divide and conquer" the human race. Either way they win (profit). The stated goal of such shenanigans? To induce us to willingly accept "protection" by the government, at a price of most of our most precious and fundamental human rights and freedoms. And of course no real protection will ensue. Only ever-deeper and more malignant erosion of human dignity and freedom.

However, there ARE often other motivations at work as well; payback and preemptive strikes against political/social opponents both real and imagined being among the more common of these. In fact such other motivations were likely a factor at Columbine, according to some indications. Further details on these aspects will be brought forth if such rumors receive corroboration.

The Columbine atrocity IS the New World Order in action. This is what's slated to be implemented on a global basis.

Welcome to the New World Order.

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COLUMBINE MASSACRE AND COVERUP - PART 2
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/read/17175
Posted By: RMNewsUpdates
Date: Tuesday, 29 January 2002, 3:16 p.m.
MOTIVES

A common view regarding Columbine, on the part of those who are aware that the public has been thoroughly mis- and disinformed about what was really going on at the school on April 20, 1999, is that the entire horror was carried out to cause a wide-scale shift among the public toward support of stringent gun control legislation. While I think a gun control agenda was undeniable and certain in this incident, to define the incident only in such terms is a serious oversimplification: I believe we must look deeper than that.

Even a cursory understanding of Machiavellian doctrine will indicate that "divide and conquer" is a fundamental principle thereof. Divide and conquer what; who? Us. Humanity.

The Columbine incident without doubt has notably exacerbated certain preexisting social divisions. Increased fear, suspicion and mistrust of social groups different than each other in terms of age, interests, religion (most victims at Columbine were Christian), and even WITHIN the age grouping known as "teenagers," is a significant effect of Columbine.

That most victims WERE Christian was indeed one of many deliberately scripted agendas of the massacre; in order to significantly increase support for gun control among this heretofore predominantly anti-gun control group.

Social tensions and divisions between so-called "geeks" and other groupings such as so-called "jocks," "preppies" and such have been drastically increased. Suspicion and distrust of youth in general is drastically up among many adults, especially if these youngsters exhibit the slightest hint of goth (a decidedly vague term at best) characteristics.

Cults-- Satanic Goths and Trenchcoat Mafia Nevertheless, on this immediately previous point: the Trenchcoat Mafia is of course tied to the goth subculture and certain elements of the trenchcoaters and the goth scene are very closely linked to San Francisco-based Church of Satan. In fact the Satanic Bible was found in Harris’s room with many of his favorite parts highlighted. Harris was KNOWN to a big fan of this treatise on evil, hatred and desolation.

(Let’s take pains to interject right here that in no way is it being claimed OR implied that ALL people who consider themselves "goth" in whatever way or trenchcoat aficionados of some stripe are involved with Satanism, devil worship, ritualistic killings, massacres and such. Yet neither can it be ignored that SOME, obviously, are so inclined.)

There were early reports out of Littleton of Internet warnings of an impending violent rampage at the school that were posted during the days

BEFORE the slaughter by a gay goth/Trenchcoat Mafia faction represented by someone calling themselves "Queen Jeff."

Recently News has in fact very received a communication from a self-described "friend" of some of Littleton’s goth/Trenchcoat Mafia crowd, whose cybername is remarkably similar to "Queen Jeff."

LAND OF ETERNAL DARKNESS

This individual indicated that they have substantial and disturbing points of congruence with some of the same "Satanist" philosophy, interests and agendas Eric Harris for example found so compelling. Moreover this person referred to a number of Littleton and Denver Trenchcoat Mafia and other goth people as friends. Given her proclivities regarding ritualistic "satanic" themes and imagery it's a safe bet she's referring to similarly-oriented trenchcoaters here. In other words, those who, like Eric Harris, apparently actively worship "evil" or "satan."

Does it strike readers as more than a little bit incongruous, even perverse or outrageous that this same person was substantially involved in setting up the memorial website for massacre victims and other related activities? Is this person trying to kid someone here... and perhaps succeeding? Talk about "PLAYING" both sides...

She designed the memorial website herself and is connected to an L.A. area web hosting services organization which also helped put out some Columbine memorial music. This woman is to a noticeable extent partial to goth and also to satanist-related concepts, doctrines, world-view and such, as well as satanically-oriented "art." She by her own words has a (family) background completely STEEPED in military connections! Also, she's a computer geek and pro hacker who works for the cited web services outfit, which does a sizable business with goth-oriented music companies.

Interestingly, the list of clients named by this web services group in Calabasas, Cal. includes a group called the Vineyard Christian Fellowship. This organization has surfaced in allegations as being a front organization for a serious amount of CIA-related covert activities such as drug smuggling and other such unsavory operations.

Vineyard Fellowship, coincidentally or not, maintains a "chapel" in the same strip mall near Columbine High School where the pizza parlor is in which Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold and recently arrested Philip Duran all worked. It's been noted by a knowledgeable source that certain parties involved with ownership/management of this pizza parlor are rumored to have had a direct involvement behind the scenes in the Columbine shootings. Further details on this particular information will be discussed later in this report.

Now back to the trenchcoater/goth aficionado just described who, though allied with Trenchcoat Mafia and goth persons of a Satanic bent, somehow became the one who designed the "official" Columbine memorial website for the victims of the horror enacted by these SAME satanic goth and trenchcoater elements.

This person wrote an open email to News in retaliation for the posting of some News articles about the Columbine atrocity to newsgroups of Littleton residents related to Columbine High School. She had the audacity to presume to speak for the friends and family of people murdered and injured by offshoots of the goth/trenchcoater subculture distinctly influenced by the same satanic beliefs as those she herself adheres to.

She wrote: "you might notice that the posters are interested in what they can learn from what happened and begin their own healing processes."

As if the human feelings of tremendous pain and loss on the part of these people are of no consequence whatsoever; as if the hideous slaughter of so many innocent human beings was nothing but some kind of "learning" experience; and subjects thereof are advised to get with the program, move on with their lives, and by ALL means avoid any serious search for the complete truth of exactly what was REALLY going on at Columbine High School on April 20!

She herself operates a website called Castle of Eternal Night which superficially appears to be just that: superficial and thoroughly inconsequential.

Other than some truly horrible pieces of "music" with names like "New World Order" in Latin, there is only one focus of any seeming consequence at all: a fairly extensive collection of random notes and memos from sundry hardcore "gamers:" people who spend hours and hours delving into the many variations and twists and turns in these virtual realms, and indeed those of sufficient proficiency will often even design and upload their own game levels; incorporating personally desired elements into these games of generally interminable virtual violence and mayhem. The kind of games Eric Harris was so deeply obsessed with. Nevertheless it appears the presence of these notes, updates and general blather about gaming is pretty much a decoy, red herring and general cover for what's really going on with this website.

As well, nothing obvious at the site addresses the actual site name itself even in the least or has any seeming connection at all to the site name, certainly an oddity. Nor is any explanation anywhere offered of what the purpose of the site might be! Other than sheer self-gratification the website APPEARS to have no "reason" to even exist. I think the key word here however is "appears."

Of course in any metaphysical or even practical sense the symbolic "meaning" of any such "realm" of "eternal night" can of course only refer to a condition of ETERNAL, enforced ignorance, confusion, lack of clarity, fear, despair and like attributes: more obscurely, to "witchery," (NOT to thereby impugn all witches by any means), paganism and satanism.

Restricted Access

The following section is admittedly speculative but certainly WELL with the realms of possibility and reasonable consideration.

Recall the "goth" scout troop in Denver reported on herein. The head scoutmaster of the goth scout troop is an otherwise fairly well-known entity in the Denver area with notable and extensive skills as a high-level computer programmer, hacker and such, particularly in regard to the internet and World Wide Web as well as high level computer gaming.

WHERE TO GO FOR "PROGRAMMING" -- A Likely Possibility

There is reason to believe that we have hit upon a hidden aspect of the Columbine massacre concerning the methods used to indoctrinate, program and TRIGGER such blatantly mind controlled subjects as Eric Harris. We have reason to strongly suspect that websites such as the Castle of Eternal Night and other related sites including some linked to Eternal Night, are in fact loaded with hidden messages, subliminal commands and other programming triggers hidden beneath the fairly smooth and glossy outward veneer the site presents.

At the Castle of Eternal Night site, the most easily accessible pages appear to contain literally nothing of any substance, interest, value or importance in terms of the interests of most people. This site literally would seem to have no "reason for being." Yet it is clearly a very slick, professionally designed site with a glitzy, even attractive sheen to it. All to no readily observable real purpose. READILY observable, that is.

Casual visitors and those accessing the site by chance, though perhaps wondering what reason the site has to exist, will never notice anything excessively peculiar.

However this website definitely has something else going on. One cannot navigate beyond the "outer" pages to the "inner" pages unless one has the access code. There is a "lock" on the inner depths of the Eternal Night website by means of a password which must be input before entering. Absolutely no clues as to what this password might be are given on the publicly available webpages. One simply has to KNOW the access code by some means or remain locked out. Preprogrammed subjects specifically induced one way or another to go to that website, who have the password, would of course get what they're supposed to get and find what they're supposed to find on the website. Creepy? Without a doubt, considering the site operator's known partiality to Satanism, the Trenchcoat Mafia and the like.

On the Eternal Night website the host refers to the site by it's nickname, "The Castle." This, interestingly, is the same as the unofficial name of the big time CIA/spook hangout nearby to Littleton. Coincidence?

FOLLOW THE MONEY--Or The Bodies?

As noted, there are suggestions from a credible source that other of the many tentacles of this evil network behind the massacre link directly to some larger real-estate interests in Colorado; some of whom figured big in the Silverado Savings & Loan debacle several years back. This will undoubtedly ring a bell in particular with many Denver-area residents.

Several other Denver-area contacts have indicated to News that gangsters based in East Texas/Dallas have had an extensive degree of covert influence upon the socio-economic underpinnings of Colorado in many ways, both legal and legitimate as well as illegal and illegitimate. The Ku Klux Klan and associated white supremacist hate clubs, again originating in the east Texas/Louisiana region, have historically also had a substantial, inordinate degree of influence in Colorado; this state of affairs continues unabated today, according to several sources.

Corroborative information from different sources bolsters the credibility of these accounts substantially

Indications of Wider Involvement

On June 17 Jefferson County sheriffs arrested Philip Duran, 22, on charges of providing a gun to a minor and of possessing a dangerous or illegal weapon. The fist charge carries a maximum penalty of six years in prison; the second, a maximum of three years in prison.

Duran had been coworker with both Harris and Klebold in a pizza parlor quite near Columbine and authorities said he is suspected of putting the two in contact with computer programmer Donald Manes at a January gun show in the Denver area. He reportedly served as a middleman in the transactions with previously arrested Donald Manes for the TEC DC-9 automatic handgun used in the massacre. 22 year old Manes is known to have been directly involved in target-shooting and other activities with the others on several occasions.

News received a most interesting lead from a source wishing to remain anonymous related to the pizza place where Harris, Klebold and Duran all worked. It was suggested by this highly-credible source that persons connected to ownership/management of this pizza parlor could well be directly connected to the massacre.

The parties in question are thought to be involved with real estate interests in the area and perhaps elsewhere, such as the Dallas area: outfits which allegedly have been and continue to be "in bed" with some Colorado-based financial organizations said to have been involved several years ago in the Silverado Savings and Loan debacle and allegedly linked currently to the goth scout troop operation.

More information will be published soon if and when other supporting evidence becomes available.

Interestingly, within a day of the publication of the first News article on the Columbine incident we received one of the few seriously negative responses we’ve gotten to date from someone representing the Denver, Colorado REAL ESTATE industry. This person did not just make general criticisms or broadly dismissive statements such as "bug off, you paranoid lunatic!" but in fact made a very detailed, pointed and rather agitated rebuttal of a number of key elements of the article. At the time we did not have the corroborative, information just noted regarding the the real estate holdings organization in connection to the shootings as noted above. But now we do. Another double hmmm on this.

Curiously, the L.A. area web services group linked to the goth "spokes- person" operating the Eternal Night website, has among their clients the wholesome-sounding "Vineyard Fellowship." This organization has in fact been linked by very good evidence to dirty dealing in regard to CIA hanky-panky of a typically putrid sort: hard drug and weapons trans- actions being their specialty. It would really seem beyond the furthest bounds of plausible coincidence that this SAME group operates a "chapel" located in the SAME strip mall as the pizza parlor.

The BIG Money-- In relation to such information there is the fact that the royal family of Great Britain is DEEPLY involved in real estate holdings in the Denver area and has been named as a major force behind much of the new/old world order-oriented skullduggery plaguing our planet AND our nation. It doesn’t take much dot-connecting to figure there is almost certainly a connection between the above-noted real estate consortium and associated individuals/groups leading to the British royals--in particular via the CIA. The CIA, through the a number of permutations and perambulations, is directly "descended" from a secret society still quite powerful behind the scenes in Great Britain AND the U.S.; named the Knights of St. John and/or the Knights of Malta, of which many CIA heavies including former CIA director William Casey and George Bush are or were members. The Knights of Malta itself is directly linked to a great number of malignant, Machiavellian geopolitical machinations.

Coincidentally or not the CIA has a facility very CLOSE to Littleton known among "company" men and their many spook associates as the "Castle." The Castle? The very same word which is the nickname of the website of the high queen of unending darkness, Castle Of Eternal Night.

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Video Files of "The Columbine Cause"
http://www.xmail.net/evanlong/tcc/Video_Files_of_The_Columbine_Cause.html
by Evan Long


e-mail: evanlong ATSYMBOL xmail PERIOD net
website: http://www.xmail.net/evanlong/

Updated 17 December 2008

All of the following downloads are suitable for low-speed connections. These clips, as well as the full-length video, have also been posted to many video sharing sites and torrent sites.


"The Columbine Cause" (1 of 16)
This section is the opening credits for the video.

"The Columbine Cause" (2 of 16)
This section is the introduction to the video.

"The Columbine Cause" (3 of 16)
This section covers the official attack timeline, those killed in the attack, the deaths of Harris and Klebold, shots and explosions after 12:08, the weapons used in the attack, and Dwayne Fuselier's supervision of the "investigation" of the attack.

"The Columbine Cause" (4 of 16)
This section covers witness reports naming Chris Morris as an attacker.

"The Columbine Cause" (5 of 16)
This section covers witness reports naming Robert Perry as an attacker.

"The Columbine Cause" (6 of 16)
This section covers witness reports describing "The Chiseled Face Shooter" and "The Camo Pants Gunman" as attackers and also covers "The Splatterpunks".

"The Columbine Cause" (7 of 16)
This section covers witness reports describing "The Blue Jeaned Bomber", "The Round Faced Shooter", "The Short Shooter", "The Baggy Pants Gunman" and "Joe" as attackers.

"The Columbine Cause" (8 of 16)
This section covers witness reports describing "The Rooftop Gunman" and "The Weaver Park Gunman".

"The Columbine Cause" (9 of 16)
This section covers Frank DeAngelis and others at CHS, Alejandra "Alex" Marsh, Blackjack Pizza, Pat McDuffy, and rumblings of an attack on Columbine.

"The Columbine Cause" (10 of 16)
This section covers Zack Heckler, Nathan Dykeman, Kathy and Wayne Harris, and Harris' and Klebold's psychological makeups.

"The Columbine Cause" (11 of 16)
This section covers Chris Morris, Robert Perry, Brooks Brown and Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine".

"The Columbine Cause" (12 of 16)
This section covers the propane tank bombs, reports of an adult trench coater outside CHS on the morning of 4/20, and a diversionary explosion.

"The Columbine Cause" (13 of 16)
This section covers Joe Stair, Eric Ault, "Pedophile Bill" and Eric Dutro.

"The Columbine Cause" (14 of 16)
This section covers Tad Boles, the "pop Satanism" of the trench coat culture and real occultism in high places.

"The Columbine Cause" (15 of 16)
This section is the conclusion to the video.

"The Columbine Cause" (16 of 16)
This section is the closing credits for the video.

TRANSCRIPT WITH DIAGRAMS: http://www.xmail.net/evanlong/tcc/Official_Transcript_of_The_Columbine_Cause.html

COMPLETE NOTES: http://www.xmail.net/evanlong/tcc/Notes_to_The_Columbine_Cause.html

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This is well documented research

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Columbine's

Third

Shooter



http://truthpackagemachine.blogspot.com/2006/05/columbines-third-shooter.html
There Were Others Involved


What is never discussed is the amount of explosives, 95 bombs, that were placed around the school, and who did it. The other buried item is the 52 witnesses that saw a third shooter.



A quick look at Klebold’s videos show that this was a tight knit group of 12 kids. Some were buying guns, and others were building bombs, and they all starred in five videos. Besides the 52 witnesses, there were two Trench Coat Mafia (TCM) members describing details.


What Happened?

It appears that there was a power struggle between the FBI’s Dwayne Fuselier and Jefferson County Sheriff John Stone. For all the carnage and intrigue, the investigation consisted of 12 short interviews with Chris Morris, Nathan Dykeman, Brooks Brown, and nine others. These people destroyed their hard-drives and bluffed Sheriff Stone's staff on lie detector tests.


Third Shooter Resurfaces

As the investigation dragged on, and some of the TCM members started to crack, their families were threatened. One TCM member's father hada bizarre lab accident, but the most serious was the execution of Stephanie Hart, who could identify the third shooter with the mask on. On Feb 15, 2000, at 10:55( AM OR PM?) TCM members stalked out a sub sandwich shop where Stephanie picked up her boyfriend, then a shooter executed the two with a bullet to the back of each of their heads.


Sheriff Stone

When Sheriff Stone arrived at the scene and saw the bodies, with the cash register untouched and the video surveillance tapes missing, he went into a rage shouting – “"Enough is enough". I think at that point that Stone decided to let Columbine die.


http://judicial-inc.biz/columbine_killers.htm

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You know what I remembered MOST about this tragic event? After it happened, the conservatives in Congress started pointing fingers at the violence glorified in our movies/tv/video games that are (supposedly)having an effect on our kids. Liberals in Congress started pointing fingers at the NRA, guns and gun manufacturers saying how they glorified guns, none of this would have happened if the gun laws were lax, so many guns on the street, etc.

Pt being that what took CENTER stage in all this in the MSM was that ever-predictable left/right paradigm. The conservatives are "I told you so!" right about this. No! The liberals are "I told you so!" right about that. Didn't Henry Hyde go as far as trying to pass legislation banning violence in our mass media? Overall - this debate ended up distracting the sheeple from the VERY truth over what happened that fateful day.

I remember that fateful day, actually - it was graduation year for me in college, and it was my VERY last college class day so I decided to walk over to my neighbor's house to relax. When he had Larry King on covering this, I commented to him, "Do you really think violent movies and tv games make kids just that?". IOW - I KNEW this firestorm of a debate was going to start up.
 

[nofakenews]

They weren't goths or loners.
The two teenagers who killed 13 people and themselves at suburban Denver's Columbine High School 10 years ago next week weren't in the "Trenchcoat Mafia," disaffected videogamers who wore cowboy dusters. The killings ignited a national debate over bullying, but the record now shows Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold hadn't been bullied — in fact, they had bragged in diaries about picking on freshmen and "fags."

Their rampage put schools on alert for "enemies lists" made by troubled students, but the enemies on their list had graduated from Columbine a year earlier. Contrary to early reports, Harris and Klebold weren't on antidepressant medication and didn't target jocks, blacks or Christians, police now say, citing the killers' journals and witness accounts. That story about a student being shot in the head after she said she believed in God? Never happened, the FBI says now.

A decade after Harris and Klebold made Columbine a synonym for rage, new information — including several books that analyze the tragedy through diaries, e-mails, appointment books, videotape, police affidavits and interviews with witnesses, friends and survivors — indicate that much of what the public has been told about the shootings is wrong.

In fact, the pair's suicidal attack was planned as a grand — if badly implemented — terrorist bombing that quickly devolved into a 49-minute shooting rampage when the bombs Harris built fizzled.

"He was so bad at wiring those bombs, apparently they weren't even close to working," says Dave Cullen, author of Columbine, a new account of the attack.

So whom did they hope to kill?

Everyone — including friends.

What's left, after peeling away a decade of myths, is perhaps more comforting than the "good kids harassed into retaliation" narrative — or perhaps not.

It's a portrait of Harris and Klebold as a sort of In Cold Blood criminal duo — a deeply disturbed, suicidal pair who over more than a year psyched each other up for an Oklahoma City-style terrorist bombing, an apolitical, over-the-top revenge fantasy against years of snubs, slights and cruelties, real and imagined.

Along the way, they saved money from after-school jobs, took Advanced Placement classes, assembled a small arsenal and fooled everyone — friends, parents, teachers, psychologists, cops and judges.

"These are not ordinary kids who were bullied into retaliation," psychologist Peter Langman writes in his new book, Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters. "These are not ordinary kids who played too many video games. These are not ordinary kids who just wanted to be famous. These are simply not ordinary kids. These are kids with serious psychological problems."

Deceiving the adults

Harris, who conceived the attacks, was more than just troubled. He was, psychologists now say, a cold-blooded, predatory psychopath — a smart, charming liar with "a preposterously grand superiority complex, a revulsion for authority and an excruciating need for control," Cullen writes.

Harris, a senior, read voraciously and got good grades when he tried, pleasing his teachers with dazzling prose — then writing in his journal about killing thousands.

"I referred to him — and I'm dating myself — as the Eddie Haskel of Columbine High School," says Principal Frank DeAngelis, referring to the deceptively polite teen on the 1950s and '60s sitcom Leave it to Beaver. "He was the type of kid who, when he was in front of adults, he'd tell you what you wanted to hear."

When he wasn't, he mixed napalm in the kitchen .

According to Cullen, one of Harris' last journal entries read: "I hate you people for leaving me out of so many fun things. And no don't … say, 'Well that's your fault,' because it isn't, you people had my phone #, and I asked and all, but no. No no no don't let the weird-looking Eric KID come along."

As he walked into the school the morning of April 20, Harris' T-shirt read: Natural Selection.

Klebold, on the other hand, was anxious and lovelorn, summing up his life at one point in his journal as "the most miserable existence in the history of time," Langman notes.

Harris drew swastikas in his journal; Klebold drew hearts.

As laid out in their writings, the contrast between the two was stark.

Harris seemed to feel superior to everyone — he once wrote, "I feel like God and I wish I was, having everyone being OFFICIALLY lower than me" — while Klebold was suicidally depressed and getting angrier all the time. "Me is a god, a god of sadness," he wrote in September 1997, around his 16th birthday.

Klebold also was paranoid. "I have always been hated, by everyone and everything," he wrote.

On the day of the attacks, his T-shirt read: Wrath.

Shooter profiles emerge

Columbine wasn't the first K-12 school shooting. But at the time it was by far the worst, and the first to play out largely on live television.

The U.S. Secret Service and U.S. Education Department soon began studying school shooters. In 2002, researchers presented their first findings: School shooters, they said, followed no set profile, but most were depressed and felt persecuted.

Princeton sociologist Katherine Newman, co-author of the 2004 book Rampage: The Social Roots of School Shootings, says young people such as Harris and Klebold are not loners — they're just not accepted by the kids who count. "Getting attention by becoming notorious is better than being a failure."

The Secret Service found that school shooters usually tell other kids about their plans.

"Other students often even egg them on," says Newman, who led a congressionally mandated study on school shootings. "Then they end up with this escalating commitment. It's not a sudden snapping."

Langman, whose book profiles 10 shooters, including Harris and Klebold, found that nine suffered from depression and suicidal thoughts, a "potentially dangerous" combination, he says. "It is hard to prevent murder when killers do not care if they live or die. It is like trying to stop a suicide bomber."

At the time, Columbine became a kind of giant national Rorschach test. Observers saw its genesis in just about everything: lax parenting, lax gun laws, progressive schooling, repressive school culture, violent video games, antidepressant drugs and rock 'n' roll, for starters.

Many of the Columbine myths emerged before the shooting stopped, as rumors, misunderstandings and wishful thinking swirled in an echo chamber among witnesses, survivors, officials and the news media.

Police contributed to the mess by talking to reporters before they knew facts — a hastily called news conference by the Jefferson County sheriff that afternoon produced the first headline: "Twenty-five dead in Colorado."

A few inaccuracies took hours to clear up, but others took weeks or months — sometimes years — as authorities reluctantly set the record straight.

Former Rocky Mountain News reporter Jeff Kass, author of a new book, Columbine: A True Crime Story, says police played a game of "Open Records charades."

In one case, county officials took five years just to acknowledge that they had met in secret after the attacks to discuss a 1998 affidavit for a search warrant on Harris' home — it was the result of a complaint against him by the mother of a former friend. Harris had threatened her son on his website and bragged that he had been building bombs.

Police already had found a small bomb matching Harris' description near his home — but investigators never presented the affidavit to a judge.

They also apparently didn't know that Harris and Klebold were on probation after having been arrested in January 1998 for breaking into a van and stealing electronics.

The search finally took place, but only after the shootings.

Meticulous planning

What's now beyond dispute — largely from the killers' journals, which have been released over the past few years, is this: Harris and Klebold killed 13 and wounded 24, but they had hoped to kill thousands.

The pair planned the attacks for more than a year, building 100 bombs and persuading friends to buy them guns. Just after 11 a.m. on April 20, they lugged a pair of duffel bags containing propane-tank bombs into Columbine's crowded cafeteria and another into the kitchen, then stepped outside and waited.

Had the bombs exploded, they'd have killed virtually everyone eating lunch and brought the school's second-story library down atop the cafeteria, police say. Armed with a pistol, a rifle and two sawed-off shotguns, the pair planned to pick off survivors fleeing the carnage.

As a last terrorist act, a pair of gasoline bombs planted in Harris' Honda and Klebold's BMW had been rigged apparently to kill police, rescue teams, journalists and parents who rushed to the school — long after the pair expected they would be dead.

The pair had parked the cars about 100 yards apart in the student lot. The bombs didn't go off.

Looking for answers at home

Since 1999, many people have looked to the boys' parents for answers, but a transcript of their 2003 court-ordered deposition to the victims' parents remains sealed until 2027.

The Klebolds spoke to New York Times columnist David Brooks in 2004 and impressed Brooks as "a well-educated, reflective, highly intelligent couple" who spent plenty of time with their son. They said they had no clues about Dylan's mental state and regretted not seeing that he was suicidal.

Could the parents have prevented the massacre? The FBI special agent in charge of the investigation has gone on record as having "the utmost sympathy" for the Harris and Klebold families.

"They have been vilified without information," retired supervisory special agent Dwayne Fuselier tells Cullen.

Cullen, who has spent most of the past decade poring over the record, comes away with a bit of sympathy.

For one thing, he notes, Harris' parents "knew they had a problem — they thought they were dealing with it. What kind of parent is going to think, 'Well, maybe Eric's a mass murderer.' You just don't go there."

He got a good look at the boys' writings only in the past couple of years. Among the revelations: Eric Harris was financing what could well have been the biggest domestic terrorist attack on U.S. soil on wages from a part-time job at a pizza parlor.

"One of the scary things is that money was one of the limiting factors here," Cullen says.

Had Harris, then 18, put off the attacks for a few years and landed a well-paying job, he says, "he could be much more like Tim McVeigh," mixing fertilizer bombs like those used in Oklahoma City in 1995. As it was, he says, the fact that Harris carried out the attack when he did probably saved hundreds of lives.

"His limited salary probably limited the number of people who died."

Contributing: Marilyn Elias, USA TODAY

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-04-13-columbine-myths_N.htm

[ramallamamama]

I don't trust Gannett, I worked for them.

[Kain]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/20/columbine.myths/index.html

Debunking the myths of Columbine, 10 years later

    * Story Highlights
    * Columbine was named the top news story of 1999, according to the Pew Center
    * When media coverage faded, officials learned some of the initial reports were wrong
    * One myth is Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were part of the Trench Coat Mafia
    * Killers wanted to be more infamous than Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh

By Stephanie Chen
CNN

(CNN) -- What do you remember about April 20, 1999?

If you recall that two unpopular teenage boys from the Trench Coat Mafia sought revenge against the jocks by shooting up Columbine High School, you're wrong.

But you're not alone.

Ten years after the massacre in Littleton, Colorado, there's still a collective memory of two Goth-obsessed loners, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, who went on a shooting rampage and killed 12 of their classmates and a teacher, injured 23 others and then turned their guns on themselves.

Journalist and author Dave Cullen was one of the first to take on what he calls the myths of Columbine. He kept at it for a decade, challenging what the media and law enforcement officials reported.

"Kids had never been attacked in this kind of way until Columbine," he recently told CNN. "I just had to find out what happened to those kids." See if you know what really happened at Columbine »

Cullen's book,"Columbine," was released this month -- just in time for today's 10th anniversary of the shooting at the Colorado high school. While tackling popular misconceptions, Cullen also gives a riveting account of what happened that day and how the survivors view the event that marked their lives forever.

Cullen concluded that the killers weren't part of the Trench Coat Mafia, that they weren't bullied by other students and that they didn't target popular jocks, African-Americans or any other group. A school shooting wasn't their initial intent, he said. They wanted to bomb their school in an attack they hoped would make them more infamous than Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

The Columbine tragedy left a lasting mark on many Americans, largely because of the media's around-the-clock coverage in the days and weeks following the shooting. Columbine was named the top news story of 1999 with nearly 70 percent of Americans saying they "followed [Columbine] very closely," according to a Pew Research Center study. VideoWatch parents reflect on children lost at Columbine »

When media coverage faded, reporters and investigators soon learned that some of the initial reports were wrong. Cullen writes about the misperceptions: "Facts rush in, the fog lifts, an accurate picture solidifies. The public accepts this, but the final portrait is the farthest from the truth."

Officials at the Jefferson County Sheriff's office agreed that the Trench Coat Mafia, among other myths, were false. Lead investigator Kate Battan said the 10-year anniversary offers a chance to clear up the misconceptions.

"It was the first big event where cell phones were around, and I had witnesses giving information to the media before I even got to it," she said. "A lot of that information was wrong."

For example, many in the media initially reported that 17-year-old Cassie Bernall, a Christian, answered "yes" when asked if she believed in God before she was shot to death. She became a poster child for the Evangelical movement after her death. But investigators and student witnesses later told Cullen that it was another student, Valeen Schnurr, who avowed her belief in God as she was shot. Schnurr survived.

Cullen's first book reading was in Denver, Colorado, a few weeks ago. He said most of the 150 guests, despite their close proximity to Littleton and the shootings, still believed that Harris and Klebold targeted certain classmates, among many other misperceptions.

Today, after carefully combing through the boy's diaries, school assignments and police documents, journalists and investigators agree there is no evidence the killers singled out the jocks in a hit list. In fact, their victims varied in race, popularity, religion and age.

Cullen said the myths were so widely reported that they were hard to take back later.

"You would have to go through a lot of corrections," Cullen said. "You would need to have something blockbuster to shake them [the public] up and say 'Everything you know about Columbine, let it go.'"

Psychologists who study memory say people tend to remember first impressions. In the case of Columbine, what the public first saw and heard in the news tended to stick with them.

Professor Elizabeth Loftus at the University of California-Irvine, who specializes in memory, said myths continue to be validated when people start talking with others about an event. Once memories are embedded, people resist changing their minds, experts say.

"Memories often fade and get more distorted as time passes," Loftus said

Five months after Columbine, Cullen wrote an article published on Salon.com revealing that most members of a group dubbed the Trench Coat Mafia had graduated years earlier.

The Trench Coat Mafia was a nonviolent school group of computer gamers established a few years before the shooting, Cullen said. They feuded with the jocks and wore black trench coats. Harris and Klebold were not members, Cullen concluded after talking to students at the school and analyzing police documents. Neither boy appeared in the Trench Coat Mafia's yearbook group photo in 1998.

The two killers were far from normal teens. Harris was a psychopath and Klebold battled depression, according to psychologists cited in the book. Even so, they also weren't the extreme social outcasts and loners depicted in the early days of media coverage.

Records released later by the Jefferson County Sheriff's office showed that Harris and Klebold had their own circle of friends. Klebold took a date to the prom, riding with a dozen friends in a limo, just days before the shooting.

"I don't believe bullying caused Columbine," Jeff Kass, who covered the story for the Rocky Mountain News, told CNN. "My key reason for that is they never mentioned it in their diaries."

After a decade of research, including hundreds of interviews and relentless requests for evidence and documents, Kass also released a book this month called "Columbine: A True Crime Story." It provides comprehensive profiles of the killers and their motives.

Kass was able to get Klebold's college application essay through public records requests. The essay indicated he was a complex teen, who acknowledged hanging with the wrong crowd during his sophomore and junior years.

Cullen, the original Columbine debunker, theorizes that the public was afraid to believe Harris and Klebold weren't total outcasts. By identifying them as goth loners who were "weird" or "oddballs," it was easier to set them apart from other students and for schools to distinguish future potential shooters, he said.

"The bombs were inconsistent with what we remember," Cullen said. "We dropped the one that was true and kept the myth."

Kirsten Kreiling, president of the Columbine Memorial Foundation, said she believed the initial reports that the killers were in the Trench Coat Mafia and targeted jocks. So did many other people in the community. Ten years later, Kreiling, who has diligently kept up with news reports on Columbine, knows those initial reports were false.

She realizes many people still accept the myths and hopes the truth of what happened at Columbine will some day replace the popular misconceptions.

"Understanding what happened can help us try to prevent these things from happening again in the future," she said. "If you don't understand history, you are doomed to repeat it."

[starvosan]

You are still being lied to.  Big time.  If you want to find out what really happened at Columbine I suggest you read what the eyewitnesses had to say:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/columbineeight.php

[Kain]

That's my whole point in positing this.

The 10 year anniversary is more revisionist bullshit. Hence, down the memory hole.

[Orgetorix]

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4547528/Evan_Long_-_The_Columbine_Cause_(Full_Length_Video)

Well worth the watch. He goes through all 11,000 pages of reports that were released on Columbine. He proves that there were more than just the two shooters, and highlights many more discrepancies in the "official" story.

[mustang11]

I saw on Hakabee's show this weekend that he had the parents who's kid was friends with Dylan. They said they had reported Eric a year prior to the shooting that he had made comments about shooting people. They even had hired a private detective because Eric had made threats to their son, who was also on the show. The detective said he was already in the system, that they had him. After the shootings they were told by the police that there was meeting with high level officials that had passed around Eric's papers and that nothing was done about it. I've tried looking for the clip on Youtube, but with no success.

[Dig]

You are still being lied to.  Big time.  If you want to find out what really happened at Columbine I suggest you read what the eyewitnesses had to say:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/columbineeight.php

      

Columbine 8 Years Later
 
Submitted by a reader. My comments follow.

Columbine : 101 witnesses can't be wrong

According to the final report of the investigation, only two people--Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17--planned and executed the mass shooting at Columbine High School outside Littleton, Colorado, on April 20, 1999, leaving 15 dead and 23 wounded. But at least 101 eye- and ear- witnesses remembered it differently:

1) Chris Wisher, sophomore (1261) He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, and wearing black trench coats. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was seen throwing bombs onto the roof.

2) Jake Apodaca, sophomore (653) He was at the soccer field, heard firecrackers. He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, wearing black trench coats and black T-shirts. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was seen throwing bombs onto the roof.

3) Jonathan Cole, freshman (749) He noticed two tall guys in black trench coats. He then saw a third male, wearing a white T-shirt and blue jeans. This person looked over to the other two suspect, and yelled "GO!! GO!!".

4) William Arapkiles, freshman (660) He states that he was at the soccer field, and heard firecrackers. He turned and saw 3 people near the West entrance. Two were wearing black trench coats, and carrying guns. The third was wearing a white T-shirt, and no visible gun. The person in the white T-shirt was pacing back and forth about 5' away from the two gunmen.

5) Channel 7 News at 12pm(noon) on 4-20 (EP 21-244) "Reporter said that numerous witnesses he spoke to who were not named said they saw 3 gunmen."

6) Lindsay Elmore, junior (332)"I believe there were 3 gunmen." (340) "...there was so much movement that Elmore thought there was more than two people."

7) ACSO Nelson (8810) "... a list of 3 names that the 12 witnesses ID'd from a yearbook were turned over to ACSO investigators to forward."

8) Jason Baer, sophomore (1759) Hid in greenroom off science hall "I heard more than two people yelling to each other saying 'over here' and stuff."

9) Anthony Sammauro, freshman (5071) "Tony stated that two suspects came in the front door and one came in the side door."

10) Erik Sunde, freshman (4576) Saw two gunmen downstairs near cafeteria, runs upstairs and sees another person in trenchcoat in front of library doors.

11) Jon Curtis, staff (2286) Describes 3 attackers.

12) Richard Olejniczak, father of students Alicia and Sarah (5070) "Richard then asked this Investigator what information had been obtained reference any other participants. Richard stated that while he was at Lea Wood Elementary School, waiting for information about his two daughters, he talked with two girls who came from the school. The girls said they had seen two guys in the cafeteria, wearing all black. There were also two guys who entered the main door from the parking lot. One was in black, the other in white. The girls said they all had guns.

13) Adam Campbell, senior (732) Walked out of school at 11:20am(immediately before shooting) on 4-20 and saw Harris in the parking lot with 2 or 3 other guys, wearing a white T-shirt and a backward baseball cap.

14) Matt Katzenmeier, sophomore (5745) Saw 4 subjects carrying bags in, according to Darlene Mesch.

15) Alicia Maes, sophomore (22755) Saw 4 people with trenchcoats and guns, according to Rachel Nelson.

16) Natalie Baker, freshman (2583) Told her mother there were 2 other shooters besides Harris and Klebold.

17) Jennifer Tindall, sophomore (1226) Sees 2 suspects, neither of which is Harris and Klebold.

18) Ryan Ezzie, sophomore (2967) Saw 4 people outside with hats on backwards. On 20612, he says he "...saw at least 4 parties dressed in black standing calmly when others were running."(by the school library)

19) Jordan Grimm, freshman (22432) According to Jordan's aunt, he saw Harris and Klebold and 2 others together ouside school just before the incident began.

20) John Spahlinger (1176) Clement Park maintenance worker, "a majority of the students Spahlinger helped informed him there had been a trench coat mafia gang shooting over at the high school and that there were 4 shooters involved."

21) Thornton/NorthglennPD SWAT Team (EP 9-34) At 11:35pm on 4-20(12 hours later) the team enters CHS for another search. "We were advised that 2 suspects(shooters) might still be in the school."

22) Littleton PO Mike Eyman (8670) Advised that "there were possibly 4 suspects in the school."

23) Nathan Dykeman, senior (trenchcoat mafia associate) "...anyway yes there were 2 more people in the school with handguns but they decided to bail.... eric and dylan went threw with it and the other 2 did not...

24) (8894) "Daphne Baca had listed 4 names of possible suspects. Those names included Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Chris Morris, and Robert Perry."

25) Trista Fogerty, freshman (23144) "Trista said she believes, as do most other students, that there were more than 4 people involved in shooting."

26) J. Adams (7422) Construction worker near CHS; he refers to a black BMW and a small tan car drive down his cul-de-sac, followed five minutes later by the sound of bombs. A co-worker says the BMW was filled with 4 teenagers, the tan car which followed it had 2 people in it. (7430)

27) Gary Talocco, teacher (8876) He says that the school roof repairman saw 3 people exit vehicle with Harris and Klebold. Tan vehicle followed them into the lot.

28) Dick Strange (1194) "It was at approximately 11:45am that Strange first observed 4 to 5 individuals, all dressed in black trench coats, standing alongside Columbine High School in the vicinity of the gymnasium."

29) Patrick Vassar, freshman (4691) Sees 4-5 individuals at 11:15am dressed in black walk away from the school, all wearing trench coats, except one, who was wearing cami pants.

30) Seth Biggi, junior (2475) Was told by Courtney Shakowski she saw 4 to 5 tenchoat mafia members enter cafeteria with a big, black duffel bag.

31) Devon Adams, sophomore (10614) Names 3 (Redacted) names as being directly involved in the Columbine shooting--they are not Harris and Klebold.

32) Boulder PD SWAT Timeline (8245) 2130 hours: "2 suspects believed dead inside, 1 arrest, 1-2 other supects/associates."

33) Julie Thomas, passerby eyewitness (ACSO 808) That on 042099 at about 0755 hours, Julie turned onto Polk St. from Pierce St. and saw a small brownish/golden truck parked on the south side of Polk St. 5 male teens around it. At least three of them are wearing black trench coats.

34) Pat McDuffee, trenchcoat mafia associate (10786) A member of the trenchcoat mafia names 5 people in the attack group. Says another 5 helped plan the attack and helped provide guns and bombs.

35) Melissa Chavez (9023) Met Harris and Klebold and 4 other boys at the mall. They showed her a map of where they would bomb the school.

36) Tim Kastle, senior (3416) Tells police of 5 suspects.

37) Pam Wood (8902) Got call at work in Pennys at South West Plaza from students trapped in school. One saw 6 trenchcoats and that all were shooting handguns.

38) Amy Terry, sophomore (2207) Was told by friend Elisha Encinias that she was in the commons when trench coaters with masks on came in shooting. Running upstairs, she sees 4 people in trenchcoats coming in through the glass doors at the west end of the main hallway.

39) Bryan Frye, sophomore (806) While crawling past the admin office(where he had just heard gunshots), he saw 5 or 6 persons all dressed in black.

40) LFD Capt. Mike Gorman (EP 1-335) "Capt. Gorman told me the only information was that there were 5 to 6 shooters from the Trench Coat Mafia."

41) JCSO Kevin Walker (EP 1-223) "Dep. Walker related the communications center advised there were approximately 6 gunmen, dressed in black."

42) JCSO Vincent DiManna (EP 1-363) At 11:35am, JeffCo. Lt. Manwaring "advised him there were as many as 7 gunmen inside the cafeteria and commons area."

43) CBSNews.com, 4-19-2001 "They(the cops) believed that they really had 6 to 8 armed individuals inside there."

44) Adam Campbell, senior (732) Says fellow student Jessica Cave says she saw 10 shooters at the school(Jessica herself was not interviewed).

What did the ear witnesses hear? Numerous students heard gunshots/explosions in different parts of the school simultaneously. Which of course probably meant more than two shooters, as Harris and Klebold were officially together almost the entire time. To wit:

45) Sara Houy, sophomore (380) Heard bombs in cafeteria below, while shooters were inside library, exploding bombs.

46) Josh Lapp, sophomore (480) Heard gunfire in other parts of the school while attack on library is going on.

47) Brandi Wiseman, sophomore (4751) Caught in one of the rooms off the kitchen, hears gunshots, bombs and screaming coming from cafeteria and library.

48) Holly Pinkham, sophomore (1620) Says friend Don Goin had his shoe shot off while in middle hall, while gunshots were going off in cafeteria.

49) Matt Katzenmeier, sophomore (3424) Heard shots and explosions inside the school at the same time there are 2 suspects outside.

50) Alex Babiniec, freshman (1954) "He thought the explosions were coming from the level he was on and from downstairs at the same time."

51) Drew Lagerborg, junior (1999) Ran west down south hallway, there was a gunman at end of that hallway. Ran to north hallway, he heard a shooter down that hallway as well.

52) Josh Brinkley, sophomore (2528) Heard shots downstairs, then different shots upstairs(from two guns).

53) Jay Gallantine, staff (3086) Sees gunman by library then runs downstairs where he hears more gunshots "all this time hearing shots all around me and above me."

54) Lindsay Wyant, sophomore (4799) Heard shots in cafeteria and library at same time.

55) Evan Todd, sophomore (8826) Heard bombs in other parts of the building while Harris and Klebold were in library.

56 and 57) Diwata Perez and Jessica Holliday, seniors (9923) Heard gunshots elsewhere while shooters were in library.

Among the best evidence are witnesses who actually identified other participants by name.

58) Crystal Archuleta, junior (EP1-197) "...she did see one person throw a pipe bomb. .....She told me at the time she thought it was Robert Perry."

59) Seth Dubois, freshman (EP21-125) "...Seth told Katherine(Carlston) that Robert Perry was seen shooting a girl in the back while leaving the library."

60) Wade Allen Frank, senior (EP1-91) "Mr. Frank told me that he thought origonally one of the individuals(shooting) was someone by the name of Robert..." "He stated that the person was tall, approximately 6'3" and kind of ackward(sic) and gangly."

61) Bryan Frye, sophomore (EP25-69) "He stated that the person he had previously believed this shooter to be was Robert Perry. .....In a previous interview, after receiving his yearbook, he had told his father that he believed the shooter to be Robert Perry. He also stated that the gunman had bad acne."

62) Courtney Haulman, freshman (EP25-91) "There was three guys. The guy I remember most was the main guy. He's over 6' tall and has long curly dark-colored hair. He was wearing a trench coat. His name is Robert Perry."

63) Lacey Hohn, freshman (EP1-186) "...can you identify or descibe who was shooting? ....Ms. Hohn said that she does not believe it was Harris or Klebold. Ms. Hohn believes it was an individual named Robert."

64) Bijen Monty, junior (EP1-110) "I asked her if she saw the source of the shooting. She told me she saw who she thought, at the time, was Robert Perry with a gun hanging around his neck. She said she never actually saw him shoot the weapon. "She asked me if I had any information in regards to Robert Perry. I informed her I did not."

65) Tessa Nelson, freshman (EP1-113) "I asked her if she saw the source of the shots. She said she saw a male, who she thought was Robert Perry, wearing boots, dark jeans with dark hair, walking down the stairs outside the cafeteria. She said the male suspect pulled a gun and started shooting."

66) Katelyn Sue Place, freshman (EP21-285) Kate said, "It was (Redacted). I'm almost positive of it. I remember looking him dead in the eye. He was in my debate class..... . ...Dylan kind of looked like Robert, but Dylan doesn't have the long face. Robert's teeth are messed up and he was smiling and I saw his teeth then. Kate said that she has since seen pictures of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, and she said, "It's not one of them."(Referring to the person she saw shooting out on the outside commons.) "She remembers him shooting Ann Marie(Hochalter). .... Robert was just randomly shooting. ...Robert was still shooting. ....Kate said that Robert shot Ann Marie before he smiled at Kate. ....She looked and saw Jason(Autenrieth) trying to help Ann Marie, dragging her away from Robert, to the side."

67) Lacey Smith, junior (4470) "On the diagram she depicts (Redacted) as walking in through the doors, past where she was sitting, and going in about as far as they north end of the school store. It was at that time she heard the windows breaking and then realized she was hearing shots. "....she did not have any trouble indentifying PERRY when he walked past her. I asked SMITH how sure she was that the person she saw and spoke with was (Redacted). I asked, "90 percent sure? 50 percent sure?" Her response was "100 percent sure." I then showed SMITH a photo lineup which included a picture of Dylan KLEBOLD, and asked her if the person who walked past her was in the lineup. She stated he was NOT in the lineup. .....As (Redacted) passed her and was near the commons area of the cafeteria, she then explained that (Redacted) pulled a weapon out from under his trench coat and started firing into the cafeteria.

68) Brenton Hooker, junior (16397) "....he turned around and observed an individual he thought was ROBERT PERRY(ex-student of Columbine High School) standing outside the door just to the north of the main entrance shooting a pistol in his direction...." ....HOOKER described the individual he thought was PERRY as 6'8" - 6'11" in height, very skinny, tight black pants, black trench coat..."

69) Tiffany Lien, freshman (968) "Lien stated she believed gunman number one was (Redacted).... ...Lien stated that she was approximately twenty to twenty-five feet away from gunman number one and looked at him face to face for approximately 25 seconds, frozen in her tracks." Tall male had long black trench coat, black jeans, dark brown hair. His hair was kind of long and had curls. He was skinny and his shoulders kind of hunched over. ...She also stated that the gunman had bad acne.

70) Kristen Long, senior (20245) "Long said suspect definitely had dark hair and a large nose, thought it might be (Redacted)."

71) Rusty Shyler, junior (5464) "The individual was very tall. ...Shyler saw his face partially and thought based upon his dress and size that it may have been (Redacted). He was a hundred percent sure it was (Redacted). He described (Redacted) as being 6'6" to 6'7" tall and having lots of zits."

72) Chris Thierren, sophomore (1207) Saw a tall shooter with acne, large nose, shoulder-length hair. "He stated that the picture he saw was of (Redacted) and he was 'pretty sure' he was the shooter he saw that morning at CHS."

73) Erin Walton, sophomore (4139) "Erin Walton said she knew one of the shooters, and that he not one of (the) two Eric and Dylan. ...he was a senior named (Redacted). and he was very tall, had bad acne scars on his cheeks.... "

74) Chris Wisher, sophomore (9832) "....he recognized one of the shooters--the other shooter was the kid wearing black that was arrested and placed in cuffs and put inside a black police car. He said that he is 100% positive that he was the male that shot at him." "Thought he recognized Chris Morris as being one of the shooters.... ...on the west side of the cafeteria."(EP6-265)

75) Ashley Egelund, freshman (22671) "Ashley was in north corridor when she observed (Redacted) and Eric Harris coming around the corner from the library.... She said Chris Morris was armed with a handgun while Harris was armed with a shotgun.(5248 ) ....both started shooting at Ashley.... Ashley did not know (Redacted) at first but she saw his picture in the yearbook and is positive it was (Redacted).

76) Leiha Murphy, sophomore (3828) In the cafeteria, notices commotion outside north-west door. "I saw a guy I recognized as (Redacted). He was running... (Joe)Stair had his blond hair down. It's past his shoulders. He's about 6', tall, skinny, he was wearing a long black trench coat.... I saw nothing in his hands. He was observed a short distance from whatever was going on at the door. My thought was that (Redacted) was involved if there was a fight." Stair named in the cafeteria map(3830). Leiha also immediately picked him out of a photo lineup. "I ask Leiha if she was certain that this individual was (Redacted). Leiha said "Oh yeah, I'm certain.... I saw his face full on. I remember seeing his face completely....(she said he stood in place for about 15 seconds)....I remember him graduating last year." She remembers him wearing 'makeup on his face and hand' and that because of that, he stood out from other students." " (3836) Also, at least four ear- witnesses heard the suspects refer to one of their number as "Joe."(Encinas, 2943, Herivel, 1927, McKenna, 3525, and Salazar, EP21-224)

77) Cara Sander, sophomore (EP25-203) Describes gunman as pudgy, overweight, very full face, thick bushy eyebrows. IDs him as (Redacted), who is heavy-set with a round face, short dark hair and dark eyebrows. A copy of the CHS yearbook page with Brian Sargent's photo is included in her interview. [John Ungerland(1701) says Brian Sargent has a round chubby face and is a big guy with bushy eyebrows. He saw him that morning at school; Sargent was wearing a short sleeve white button-up shirt-a polo type.]

78) Jason Brehm, sophomore (719) One of the shooters had a very round face, shorter than 5'11". Not Harris or Klebold.

79) Mindy Pollock, freshman (10009) Sees one gunman outside west entrance, holding a gun on the fence. ...Dressed in a "white dress-type shirt", short brown hair, with a "little bit of a gut". "POLLOCK stated she recognized the lower, #1 gunman as (Redacted)."(1095)

80) David Eagle, sophomore (1878) "The guy with the gun had black hair looked like it was spiked shaved on the sides.(sic) It was also blond on top. 5'9", about 18 years old. "He has since seen pictures of Harris and Klebold on television. ...David said that the person he saw did not look like the people he's seen on television."

81) John Vandemark, sophomore (2216) In the science hall, sees older shooter with dark hair, spiky with blond tips.

82) Erin Walton, sophomore (2243) In th science hall, sees suspect with short blond hair-"like he was going bald"-older, in his 30s.

83) Jen Smull, sophomore (2182) In science hall, sees Klebold and an older suspect, 25-30, blond with short, spiky, buzz-cut hair.

84) Nathan Anema, freshman (2359) "....Anema identified (Redacted) as possibly being the person he saw throw a pipe bomb during the shooting at Columbine High School on 4-20-99. ...Anema stated that he initially thought the person that he saw throwing the pipe bomb was (Redacted)."

85) Katy Beer, freshman (6636) ".... when the incident began at Columbine High School, she initially tried to get out of the school by going toward the main doors on the east side of the school by the administrative offices, however, she said she saw a third shooter next to these offices and that this third shooter shot out windows at that location. ...Katy Beer told him this third shooter may have been (Redacted)."

86) Leanne Clark, freshman (1422) "...Clark told her that she saw who did the shooting in the cafeteria, and that Clark identified (Redacted) as a gunman."

87) Frank DeAngelis, School Principle(8018) "I also assisted the principle of Columbine, who was having hard time giving the pictures of possible suspects to the command post and was present when he looked at and identified one of the suspects he was named.(sic) The male suspect was in the custody of, I believe, Jefferson Co. Sheriff's investigators."

88) Amy Evans, senior (22205) "....Amy Evans said there was a third shooter and it was (Redacted)."

89) Mark Hengel, junior (5901) "Hengel identified Klebold and (Redacted) from the photograph in the attached 1A envelope.... Also attached is a 1A envelope is a diagram of Columbine High School indicating the diection of Hengel and the two individuals dressed in black." Apparently the interviewing officer didn't like what he was hearing, and so the interviewer ends up telling the eyewitness what he saw: "I then advised Mark Hengel that the skinny person he saw standing and shooting was Dylan Klebold and the person he saw standing over the duffel bag was Eric Harris."

90) AnneMarie Hochalter, junior, gunshot victim outside the cafeteria (18218) "Advised that Harris/Klebold did not shoot her. .... Has ID on shooters."

91) Leigh Kamens, senior (1422) While in the 'green room' off of the science hall, she identified (Redacted) as one of the gunmen.

92) Alicia Maes, sophomore (3614) "Alicia stated that when she first observed the male in the black trench coat, she thought it was a person known to her as (Redacted)."

93) Mark Opfer, freshman (1064) "At the time, Opfer believed the taller person in the black tenchcoat who with(sic) the shooter was (Redacted)....." "CHS student Mark Opfer was interviewed on 4-27-99... In that interview Opfer stated that he believed (Redacted, wearing a trench coat) was standing next to a gunman and was involved in the shooting."(25625)

94) Josh Ortwein, senior (1939) "...Josh Ortwein witnessed the shooting and he was telling everyone he saw (Redacted) shooting a gun."

95) Jessica Rusch, sophomore (2143) "...she identified one of the gunmen at the Columbine High School as being an individual known as (Redacted)."

96) Valeen Schnurr, senior, gunshot victim in library (18969) "Per Valeen's mother, Shari Schnurr, Valeen possibly identified her shooter as (Redacted)."

97) Jennifer Tindall, sophomore (1226) "....insisted that neither suspect she saw was Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold. ...Tindall picked out (Redacted) photograph as possibly being the male in the black trench coat."

98) Adam Thompson, junior (21039) "....he had seen a gunman shooting inside the school. Does not think it is the same as gunmen in the media."

99) Terry Lawson, junior (10020) ID other than Harris and Klebold.

100) Monica Schuster junior (19470) "Schuster saw gunman but did not believe it was Harris and Klebold."

101) Kacey Ruegsegger, junior, gunshot victim in library (128) "Ruegsegger did not recognize the pictures of Harris and Klebold she has seen in the media as the gunmen in the library."
The historical context of Columbine seldom gets any mention in the mainstream media. State after state had legalized conceal carry laws for law abiding citizens. As each state passed those laws, crime plummeted.

The gun-grabbers were losing the PR war over the issue of gun control as it became clear that armed citizens are adeterrent to crime. The gun-grabbers needed a public relations event so horrific that the emotional reaction to it would outweigh all possible logical arguments on the issue of gun control. Colorado was on the verge of passing a conceal carry law. Then Columbina happened, and the national move towards allowing law abiding citisens to carry concealed weapons slammed to a complete halt.

Certainly there are many interests that oppose private citizens being able to stop crime. Organized crime tops that list, followed by many polioce officials who see their own authority and pensions threatened by a public able to take care of themselves. Finally there are the pro-dictatorship forces in the US which see a disarmed and hyelpless population as crucial to their designs.

It is in this context that the very odd aspects of the Columbine shooting need to be examined. Looking back from a time when we know the government lied about weapons of mass destruction, and with 84% of Americans no longer trusting the official story of 9-11, it is valid to ask if Columbine was a staged event to trick Americansinto surrendering their Second Amendment rights.

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Marking the 10th anniversary of the Columbine school massacre, BoA: Audio talks with William K. Zabel, a researcher who has spent the last decade investigating the tragedy and believes (like me) there is MUCH more to the story than what the mainstream/corportate mass media is telling us.

http://binnallofamerica.com/boaa4.20.9.html

Check it out, thanks!

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http://columbinefamilyrequest.org

Columbine Families Demanding a Full Investigation of the January Incident

Two Day Seminar on Columbine and Other Coverups
Two Day Seminar, Live Internet Streaming
 Sat. & Sun., April 18 & 19

The Columbine Coverup and Consequences and
Other Cases of Government Corruptions

Hotel Gold Crown
7770 South Preoria
Englewood, CO
Call 303-790-7770 if you have questions
$17.76, students under 21, 50% discount

SPEAKERS:
 John DeCamp, author of The Franklin Cover-up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska (CO, CA, & nationwide by CIA & FBI agents), will document Columbine massacre cover-ups & why so much evidence, including the depositions of Eric and Dylan, have been sealed by the Courts.

 Ron Aigner, friend of the Columbine families and long-term evidence archiver will provide documentation demonstrating the key significance of the “January Incident,” where Eric and Dylan were arrested 14 months prior to the massacre.

 Donna Taylor, mother of Mark Taylor. Mark’s special needs, after he was most outspoken victim of Columbine crimes & cover-ups; she cannot work. He exposed “anti” depressants both killers were using, & influence many children to be victims of more: depressed/violent/killings & suicide. (Donations needed!)

Dr. Bill Deagle, the Taylors’ family doctor, was credited with saving Mark’s life. (Websites: www.nutrimedical.com & www.clayandiron.com. He guarantees to offer listeners an earful, since part of his advanced government training was by Dr. Ewen Cameron who committed CIA mind control experiments.

Dr. Ann Blake-Tracy, author of PROZAC: Panacea or Pandora?, will expose the dangerous adverse effects of antidepressant SSRI, the same drugs implicated in almost all school shootings.  (See www.drugawareness.org)

Judy Amber Chase, author of Walls Of Secrecy; is President & Co-Founder of The Earth Harmony Foundation & Co-Chair of The International Children’s Rights Committee.  (www.earthharmonyfoundation.org

Richard Gage, the Republican architect creating a $400 million Las Vegas complex, founded the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Movement, with 600 members, & growing fast in just two years. Public invited to join: www.AE911Truth.org.   www.FirefightersFor911Truth.org agree with A&E’s facts!   
 
 Ted Gunderson retired 1979, as chief of the FBI’s seco-nd largest field office, L.A. He’ll expose many crimes committed by leaders of both political parties in Washington, plus CIA, FBI, Congress, military, & other branches. (www.gunderson.com)

Sheriff Richard Mack, regarding COUNTY SHERIFF: America’s Last Hope, his new booklet for all sheriffs & Amer-I-Cans. Order copies for sheriffs, etc.: www.SheriffMack.com

Orlean Koehle is Eagle Forum’s Sonoma (Bohemian Grove) County & California chair. Her new book, Laying the Foundation for a North American Union & Its Parallel to European Union: Based on Stealth & Deception,  exposes NAU & NAFTA Super Hwy.

 Dr. A. True Ott, a nutritionist, shall disclose how “our” (their) government & corporations subliminally manipulate our minds, via TV, with electronic waves, etc. His vital book is Free at Last. (Website:www.MotherEarthMineralsInc.com)

 Bob Hope, a.k.a. Dr. Mel Laney, has Ph.D.’s in law & computer science. He designed & installed the Pentagon’s computer security systems for all five branches of the military. Two years ago on Doug Millar’s radio talk show, Millar was filmed, as Dr. Laney said, “It was not a plane that hit the Pentagon, it was a penetrator missile!”

 Bob Farris owns Farris Survival in Denver. Learn how to survive a depression. (A possible Chinese &/or Russian invasion, due to 340,000 Chinese in Panama, says a CIA agent monitoring them, since 1999, ‘cus Pres. Clinton/Pres. Bush allowed Communist China to operate the Panama Canal & build military bases.

Ken Korenthal, author of Decoding Morals & Dogma & Other Secrets, shall expose Albert Pike’s secret codes.

Aric Leavitt, author of ILLUMINATI, is a Jew who risks his life, as many of our speakers are, to expose the Rothschilds & Jesuits creation of the most wicked secret society in history. Want proof Illuminati still exists today? (Some speakers know victims.)

Ken Fox was a successful businessman in Lincoln, NE, when his friends were exposing The Franklin Cover-up. Then his wife, a psychiatric nurse, poisoned him, & waited three hours, before calling 911, as he lay dying. They say, “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you!”

Charles Swingle, a friend of Mr. Fox’s, witnessed the dosage on a prescription drug Mr. Fox was taking, & due to Mr. Swingle’s knowledge, he told his friend that his wife had changed the dosage, by doubling it & making it lethal/fatal, if he used it!

Rubin Wooster will disclose The Franklin Cover-up & proof Commonwealth Fed. S&L’s assets were more than owed dep-ositors, when forced into bankruptcy by Gov. Bob Kerrey/US Sen.   The public’s financially raped. As in Hitler’s Germany, we’re witnessing the rise of a fascist “corporate” police state.

Peter Tscherneff, sexually abused by priests & prog-rammed by Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele to kidnap children in the San Francisco Bay Area, later taken to human sacrifices. He will be interviewed by Mr. Gunderson & Mr. Millar to expose more.

Ron Green in Las Vegas will give Pres. Obama’s darkest  secrets the national media won’t expose. They’ll shock all of you.

Randall Terry seeks to inspire Catholics to prevent Pres. Obama’s May 17 graduation speech at Notre Dame University, due to his support of abortion, especially partial birth abortions.

David Justice is a constitutionalist, businessman & dyna-mic speaker. He is the Colorado coordinator for We the People.

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Looking back from a time when we know the government lied about weapons of mass destruction, and with 84% of Americans no longer trusting the official story of 9-11, it is valid to ask if Columbine was a staged event to trick Americansinto surrendering their Second Amendment rights.

 Im not ruling it out.

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Marking the 10th anniversary of the Columbine school massacre, BoA: Audio talks with William K. Zabel, a researcher who has spent the last decade investigating the tragedy and believes (like me) there is MUCH more to the story than what the mainstream/corportate mass media is telling us.

http://binnallofamerica.com/boaa4.20.9.html

Check it out, thanks!

If you do not listen to this, you are missing out on some seriously amazing information concerning how these false flag shootings occur (including VT and Binghamton).

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Marking the 10th anniversary of the Columbine school shooting, we welcome researcher William K. Zabel, who has spent the last decade investigating the event and believes there is more to the story than what the mainstream media is telling us. He'll detail his findings and his theories on what really happened in Colorado on April 20, 1999. Were there more than two shooters, gov't involvement, a cover-up, mind control, or some kind of paranormal influence? We'll examine all of these possibilities and much, much more in a mindblowing, thought provoking, and, at times, revelatory interview which may have you looking at the Columbine shooting in a whole new light.

This is a jam packed, must hear episode for anyone interested in off-kilter esoterica and obscure but fascinating conspiracy theory.

Full Preview: We start out with our usual jumping off point: the bio/background and we find out how William got interested in the Columbine shooting in the first place. We then bring folks up to speed on the Columbine shooting and have William detail the official, mainstream, version of events from April 20th, 1999. From there, William tells us when he began to feel there was more to the story than what the mainstream was telling us and he talks about how he'd heard conflicting reports of the events of Columbine from different people in the area, since he lives, and was working, relatively close to Columbine at the time.

We then begin trying to untangle the Columbine story, starting with a phone call that was received to a local hospital that warned about and/or predicted the shooting, hours before it took place. William then contrasts the official version of events at Columbine with what he thinks happened there that day. He begins by detailing how his findings suggest that there were more than two shooters and that the school was actually beseiged by shooters. He also details how witness reports have shooters wearing entirely different attire from what purported shooters Harris & Klebold were said to have been wearing. William also goes over how the weapons said to have been used by the shooters contrasts with the witness statements of some of the Columbine students who were there during the shooting.

William then goes over the physical descriptions of Harris and Klebold and how the witnesses, both police and students, described shooters who looked vastly different. He then tells us about the alleged rooftop shooters and talks about how his information from eyewitnesses suggests that there were several different people on the roof and not a lone maintenance worker, as the official version states.

Going off on a tangential element to William's version of events, we find out, from him, what became of these other suspects once the shooting ended. He goes over three scenarios as to how these alleged additional shooters ended up escaping. Binnall then plays Devil's Advocate and puts forth the question of why the government and police would just allow these additional shooters to escape if all of these witness reports conflict with the official version of events. William, in turn, details why he believes there was some blackmail involved in keeping the police from doing anything about these suspects.

Extrapolating on that thought, William details Harris & Klebold's earlier arrest for breaking into a van and how he thinks it was a set-up by the police and the brutal treatment of Harris & Klebold by the police at the arrest was the information used to blackmail them into letting the other suspects go. William also responds to Binnall's skepticism that the knowledge of the police beating could lead to a cover-up of the school shooting, since they are vastly different crimes.

Binnall then challenges William's theory by asking why, if there were additional student shooters that got away with it, none of the other students made any noise or raised the issue after the events happened and the suspects were allowed to resume their normal lives. This leads to some discussion on how many students in the area knew something like the shooting was going to occur and that foreknowledge may have been used to keep them quiet about other shooters after the event.

Bringing the discussion back to the events of April 20, 1999, we get William's take on just when the shooting began in Columbine, since the phone call, and some police reports, seem to suggest that it started much earlier than the mainstream version of events says it did. William details the admission by the police that they "destroyed the timeline" surrounding the shooting and he explains what exactly that means. Given that the evidence from the event was destroyed, according to the police, we find out, from William, what his take is of the footage that has surfaced from the event, as seen in the film Bowling for Columbine.

Jumping back into the discussion of the timeline, William details some of the suspicious elements surrounding the witnesses statements with regards to the issue of just when the shooting started. This leads to Binnall asking the skeptical question of why the government would change the start time of the events in the witness statements but leave the parts about additional shooters still in the documents.

William then details his opinion that the shooting took place either much earlier in the morning on April 20th or, in a completeley mindblowing twist, actually began on April 19th and was more of a hostage situation. He explains his evidence for this, based on some police reports stating that the event began on April 19th and how there are issues surrounding the autopsies of the Columbine victims which suggest that they died earlier than the official events of April 20th. This leads to William suggesting that the reason behind the widespread cover-up by the local residents of the area is because they are all former government employees and that the town is a "safe community" for former government intelligence agents.

After that side tangent, we go back to the events of that day and William details how there is a 45 minute gap of missing time in the documents and witness reports regarding the SWAT team inside the school. He talks about how witness reports say that there was much more gunfire and activity inside the school after 12:15, which is when Harris & Klebold allegedly killed themselves. He then details some of the strange activity going on inside the school after the shooting allegedly ended, including an FBI HRT team presence inside the school before the SWAT team entered, shootouts between apparently two different factions inside the building, the presence of officers with NATO written on their shield, and the emergence of an armed four star general from the school later in the day.

Trying to sift through the events that William alleges to have happened inside the school on April 20th, he explains how he thinks there were three groups of "bad guys" inside Columbine high school that day purpetrating the crime. He explains how he thinks the event was allowed to happen to be used as a special ops training exercise and PR effort by the government to forward gun control legislation.

Taking another skeptical look at William's theories, Binnall asks why the death count was so low if this was allegedly a lengthy shoot-out. He explains how many of the people injured were not classified as victims of the shooting due to a loophole in reporting procedures. William then details how his research indicates that there were many more deaths at Columbine than were reported by the police and mainstream media. Binnall then asks how it is even possible for there to be a cover-up of additional deaths, when there are parents involved and they surely wouldn't stand idly by while the police cover-up their childrens' deaths and William responds.

We next get into some of the high strangeness surrounding Columbine, beginning with the memorial service which William attended following the event. At this point, William lays out his big picture thesis on what Columbine really was and it is so wild that we are omitting it from the recap. Binnall takes the Devil's Advocate position and asks William if perhaps he is trying to ascribe rational reasons behind the irrational acts of Columbine and maybe connecting dots that don't really connect.

Continuing to look at the high strangeness and paranormal connections to Columbine, William tells us about odd supernatural events, like hauntings, around the area of the Columbine school. He shares his own supernatural experience near the Columbine school and details how many people who enter the Columbine school say that they have the eerie feeling of "being watched" by some presence there. He details some other ghostly activity that has been reported at the school. He then makes a shocking revelation about the land where the Columbine high school was built.

We then cover some of the mysterious deaths and disappearances related to Columbine and William details some of those for us. He talks about some of the witnesses who saw things different from the mainstream version of events and, subsequently, died mysteriously. We then pose the classic conspiracy skeptic question to William: if there was a conspiracy and they are killing witnesses who speak out, why haven't they eliminated him yet? We also find out how the survivors, parents, and government officials in the area have reacted to his work researching a potential Columbine conspiracy.

We discuss the lawsuit brought by Columbine parents against the police department and find out why they never mention the possibility of additional shooters or a cover-up. This leads into some discussion on theories of mind control being involved in the Columbine event and we get William's take on where he stands regarding that issue. We also find out why William seems to be the only researcher looking into the Columbine shooting and that there aren't any other conspiracy researchers investigating the event.

Heading towards the close of the interview, William tells us about the autopsy reports from the event and how he thinks they are critical to his theories surrounding something suspicious happening at Columbine. We wrap up our Columbine conversation with one final bizarre tidbit that William shares regarding two Columbine survivors that ended up going to Virginia Tech and also survived that shooting incident as well. He also talks about another mysterious disappearance related to Columbine and how it is just one of "two dozen" such kids that disappeared from the area after the event.

Closing out the interview, we find out what's next for William Zabel, his other conspiracy related website phantomchasers.com, and other projects he is working on now.

William K. Zabel Bio

William Zabel has been a graphic designer since 1996, working mostly with post production graphics for television and film. He also worked as an actor in a variety of tv shows and films including "The Adventures of Ford Fairlane." Perry Mason, Father Dowling Mysteries. Played a doctor in the entirely Denver based film, "Nomads."

He has spent twenty years doing political research into government corruption, murder, mind control, and government waste and abuse. He has researched abuse by military and civlian law enforcement including the Panama Invasion, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma CIty Bombing, as well as the Columbine massacre, and Virginia Tech massacre.

He has also researched many paranormal events including the strange events at Denver Internatinoal Airport, hauntings in local Denver buildings and historical sites, and spend time with his UFO friends (some MUFON) staring up at the sky at night.

His website is http://columbineconspiracy.com

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The Phantoms of Columbine
Accomplices
http://www.columbineconspiracy.com/accomplices.html
Posted by Phantom B (William K Zabel) on April 12, 2009

One of the first areas of this investigation that might reveal what happened that day is with the eyewitnesses who saw the massacre as it happened. It is here that we will also find out whether there could have been accomplices in the massacre. We will also see whether those that helped, might have carried guns and explosives into the school.

Before we being however, we must remember that evidence exists to suggest that this massacre may have started earlier in the day, or maybe the day before. Because of this many might either dismiss the earlier start time based on the statements by witnesses here, or they may rule out the statements based on the time line. However there is a third possibility that we must consider here; that the witnesses observed other suspects, just not when there statements claim they did. Furthermore, if we can conclude that this mess did start the day before, and then moved into the next day as a hostage situation or as an open gun battle, then maybe some of these students did witness suspects on April 20, 1999 after they had been removed from the building by SWAT, or as they had escaped. This of course has all been explained in previous chapters on mind control and the time line, for now let us concentrate on accomplices that may have assaulted the school with Harris and Klebold.

The possibility of other accomplices involved with the Columbine shooting is at the core of the issue. From the very beginning when the news began broadcasting from the school, reports flooded into law enforcement of suspect information and locations within the school. Clearly, from those reports, some of the descriptions did not match those of the two alleged suspects. Locations of suspects as well did not match what JCSO concluded was the path and locations of the suspects accused in the case. Clearly, there is more to this picture.

Then as suddenly as the media aired those reports, they simply disappeared. It was though the notion of other suspects was not that important to authorities. However, early on the police were indeed worried about other suspects, had conducted over five hundred interviews, and reviewed more than two thousand pieces of evidence in the hopes of finding some trace of those accomplices.

Then on April 21, 1999, a day after the massacre, CNN online news reported that investigators were looking for accomplices. According to the article, investigators believed that there might be other suspects due to the number of bombs, ammunition, and weapons used in the deadly school rampage. Investigators were even quoted as saying, High number of guns. Obviously, they were not talking about the two shotguns, TEC-9 and High Point nine-millimeter weapons found on the suspects as high numbers of weapons! According to an online news source called APB Online JCSO Sheriff John Stone is quoted as saying; Theres too much stuff in there, he said You cant walk in there blazing with more stuff than you can carry. 1

Then on August 20 of that year, the Boulder News was reporting that investigators found no evidence of a third shooter based on physical evidence found at the scene. In the article, public relations officer, Steve Davis said; Some students are very adamant about the fact that there was a third gunman. 2

Yet on the same day as Investigators are quoted as saying there is no evidence of a third suspect the Boulder News also ran another article where they were actually widening there investigation to take into account the possibility of other suspects especially three teens arrested near the school that day.3

Two different articles with investigators being quoted with two different opinions about other suspects, you have to ask why?

Though the investigators were debating whether there might be other suspects in the case, we still had not actually heard from the majority of witnesses who were there. It is about time to read what the witnesses and victims had to say. From here and throughout the rest of this chapter you will read those witness statements that suggest other suspects.
Outside Witnesses

This first group of witnesses is those that investigators determined were outside the school that day and saw Harris and Klebold as they fired at students on the grass, in the parking lot, and those exiting the building. Reading the statements very carefully though and you can clearly read where they are talking about suspects either in addition to Harris and Klebold, or other suspects altogether!
Jake Apodaca

Jake and his friends were on the soccer field and heard what to him sounded like firecrackers. He then turned around to look to see what was happening. He noticed three men by the school shooting guns. He also saw one of them throw bombs on the roof of the school. It was at this time that the shooters saw Jake and the others on the soccer field and began shooting at them. Jake and his friends ran to a house in the neighborhood and called police. Jake would hear the phrase of the day that he says went something like this; "Today is the day you wish you weren't here." 1

Here is a news interview with Jake Apodeca about his observations:
William Arapkiles

William Arapkiles had "A" track lunch and went looking for his sister that day. Finding that she had already left for lunch he decided to get a soccer ball and went to the soccer field with some friends. He had only been there about five minutes when he heard the first shots coming from the west side of the school near the cafeteria. At first, he thought they might have been fireworks, and the others with him began to cheer thinking that this was a school prank, but William and his friends would find out that they were wrong. They were in the grips of one of the worst school shootings ever.

William looked toward the school and saw three people near the west entrance to the north main hall. William said that two of the three were wearing trench coats while the third was wearing a white shirt. William said that the two with trench coats had guns while he could not see the third person with a gun. William told investigators that the third person in the white shirt did not appear to be a victim but actually looked like he was with the other two people with guns.

He said that the two with guns began to shoot at the ground and into the air. The people in trench coats shot a person at the top of the stairs and then they shot a person at the bottom of the hill near the cafeteria. Then they shot another victim as that person was trying to run away across the parking lot.

It was at this time that the shooters noticed William and his friends on the soccer field and began shooting at them. William also told the investigator that while in the cafeteria he did not see any duffel bag and did not see the shooters carrying a duffel bag. In a later chapter, this will become important as to whether anybody saw the duffel bag in the cafeteria.2
Donald Arnold Jr.

Donald had just eaten lunch when he met up with Chris Wisher and Pat Neville on the soccer field near a shed. He had been there only five minutes when he thought he heard firecrackers coming from the area of the school. When Donald looked toward the school, he saw a white pudgy male wearing a white T-shirt who threw something onto the roof of the school; this was according to Donald near the electrical transformers of the school. He then saw another male shooting a gun toward the senior parking lot. This person was on the upper level, north of the parking lot and near the building. He believed that this person was about thirty yards southwest of the first male.

The second male must have noticed Donald and his friends on the soccer field because he turned and fired at them. This suspect fired five or six shots at them on the soccer field. Donald observed a person sustain a gunshot on the soccer field followed by another person just southwest of the first person. Donald believed that the second student hit by gunfire sustained an injury to the ankle.

Donald would be another person who knew the phrase of the day to be; "Today is the day you wish you weren't here." He would also make the comment to the investigator that Mr. Talocco told him he was mad about the phrase of the day but did not think Harris or Klebold had access to RNN (Rebel News Network).

Donald's statement about the first male being "short and pudgy" hardly fits the description of either Harris or Klebold.3
Jason Brehm

Jason had fifth period off and he went and retrieved a soccer ball from his locker. He then proceeded to the west upper level doors to exit the building. There he observed a person wearing a trench coat and black hat turned around backwards. This person was leaning against a post that was anchoring a tree. This person was a little shorter than he was. Jason is about five foot eleven or six-foot. This person according to Jason was wearing black boots. The investigator showed him pictures of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, but that this person was neither of the two. Jason also described a nylon bag at his feet, which he estimated to be one and a half to two feet long, and appeared full.

Jason then walked down to the first door in the commons and met up with Brian Stepp, Billy Arapkiles, Mike Kenny, Arthur Curtis, Chris Therrien, Justin Woods, and Brian Frye. It was at this point that Chris Therrien and Brian Frye left the area, went to get a soda, and met up with Lance Kirkland.

Jason and his friends then walked out along the parking lot to the soccer field and began playing soccer. This is when Jason heard sounds like firecrackers going off and saw smoke coming up from the ground next to where the person in the trench coat was standing. Jason had seen this same person earlier. Jason said that this person was alone. The person wearing the trench coat began shooting randomly as he walked down the stairs. When he reached the bottom of the stairs, he turned around and walked back up the stairs. Jason believes that this person started shooting a student by the name of Denny Rowe. The gunman then started shooting into the library windows. This person also at this time threw several devices up on the roof of the school that caused explosions. He then ran back down the stairs and according to Jason, fired off what he thinks was a shotgun. Jason described this blast as louder than any he had heard so far. Jason believes that it was at this time that Lance Kirkland sustained a gunshot to the face.

Jason would also note something strange that was happening. He says that a person in a white t-shirt was walking calmly from the parking lot towards the scene where the gunman was located. Jason thought that this was odd considering that everyone else was running away from the area. Jason then left the area with his friends and ran to a house in the neighborhood.4
Adam Campbell

Adam was leaving the school for lunch that day when he ran into Eric Harris. He described Eric as wearing a white t-shirt and a baseball cap backwards. Adam also described three other males with Eric at the time. When Adam tried to return at 11:55am, a bunch of people in Leawood Park told him of the shooting at Columbine and warned him away from the school.

A stranger aspect to this is the fact that Adam had a conversation with Jessica Cave after the shooting and she stated that there were ten suspects firing weapons at the school that day.

Also, who were the three other males with Eric Harris? Were they accomplices, or just people standing near Eric?5
Jonathan Cole

Jonathan was walking through the school that day on his way to his fourth period class. While passing by the room Brooks Brown was supposed to be, Jonathan observed that he was not there as Brooks usually sits by the door. Jonathan then went on to his fourth hour class.

After fourth hour, Jonathan was exiting the back of the school via the upper west doors when he met up with Jake Apodaca and Chris Wisher. This is when he noticed two males in trench coats. One was wearing a ski mask with one large hole in it. He described both of these individuals as tall and thought that they had just exited the same doors as he. He said that both walked to the corner of the building and stood off the sidewalk looking down the steps that lead to the cafeteria and senior parking lot. Jonathan also recalled that a male in a white tee shirt that had either short sleeves or no sleeves, blue jeans, exit the building behind the two with trench coats. He then heard the male in the white tee shirt say, "GO! GO!"

Jonathan said that the two males in trench coats pulled weapons and began shooting at students down below. He said that one had a shotgun and the other a semi automatic gun. He then began to run in a westerly direction. Jonathan looked back to see the male in the white shirt throw bombs on the roof of the library. Jonathan believed that the number of bombs were about four to five total.

The suspects then turned their attention to Jonathan and his friends and began shooting at them. They ran and jumped a fence and fled to a residence in the neighborhood.

Jonathan said that when he went back to pick up his backpack and other belongings that he had left behind, that he saw a male that reminded him of the male in the white shirt who was throwing the bombs. This male according to Jonathan was five foot ten, wearing black glasses and having collar length blondish hair. Jonathan was shown a lineup of twelve people, none of whom he could identify as being the male in the white t-shirt.

Jonathan was able to identify Klebold and Harris from these photos as well as various other members of the Trench Coat Mafia. The investigator would note in this report that when comparing it to Chris Wisher and Jake Apodaca, which they claimed to have only seen a person in a trench coat and a person in a white t-shirt. No explanation is given as to why one of the "two" known suspects did not have his trench coat on. In a later notation by the detective, she noted that upon calling Jonathan for a further interview, his mother stated that Jonathan was seeing a doctor because he was having flash backs to that day. His mother asked the investigator not to interview Jonathan again. I would hear this again and again how students who were "traumatized" and being seen by a doctor and could not be interviewed by detectives.6
Bryan Frye

Bryan arrived in the cafeteria about 11:15am, and placed his backpack on a table. He then met up with a friend, Chris Therrien and a girl by the name of Bijen Monte. He then went over to Rebel Corner, stayed there for about five minutes and then he and Chris went outside using the door by Rebel Corner. They then walked up the stairs to the upper level on the backside by the library.

Brian stated that there was a male standing at the top of the stairs dressed in a trench coat, black pants, and black boots. Brian made it clear that this person did not have on a hat or mask. He also stated that he knew this person to be Eric Harris. He saw Eric holding a TEC-9 handgun that he was able to identify while watching the news.

Brian then heard what he thought were exploding firecrackers and saw students running away from this area. Brian also saw Lance Kirklin run down the stairs where he sustained a shot in the ankle. Then he saw a girl fall after sustaining a shot in the back.

Brian yelled to his friend Chris and they ran back to the cafeteria and entered through the first door on the northwest side. Brian saw Dave Sanders in the area of the kitchen counter and he was yelling for students to get down.

As he and Chris ran towards the stairs to escape upstairs, he thought that Eric Harris had come into the cafeteria. He never actually saw this, but that Chris had told him. They ran down a hall that is between the math and social studies rooms and then crawled past the administrative offices to a side door. They then ran through the tennis courts and to West Bowles Avenue.

Bryan heard gunshots bullets striking lockers down at the end of the hallway. This he observed while they were adjacent to the main hallway leading to the administrative offices. Bryan then stated to the investigator that the main entrance had no damage at this time.

When they got close to the administrative offices, Bryan looked left and he could see five or six persons all dressed in black. He reasoned that these could be students from the gymnasium. Bryan further stated that he does not know Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold.

In his first statement, Bryan claims that he knew it was Eric Harris. Then he made a second statement to investigators. In it he then claims that he did not know Eric or Dylan, but only knew it was Eric Harris at the top of stairs after talking with his friend Chris. Brian told the investigator that he thought it was somebody else at the top of the stairs, but after talking to Chris, he changed his mind.

So how did he know the person he saw at the top of the stairs was Eric? Did it mean that he knew his name but not know him personally? Why did he think that it was somebody else, and then change his mind after talking to his friend Chris? Why the investigator did did not clarify this as to whether the witness knew Eric by sight and knew his name, but just had no dealings with him? If he did not know Eric by name or sight, then how is it that he came to believe that it was Eric at the top of the hill?

Also strange is why Bryan and Chris are crawling past the administrative offices. Could someone have been in there that Bryan and Chris wanted to avoid? Could it have been one of the suspects? Bryan does not make this clear but it is interesting. Another interesting comment is Bryan is describing looking past file cabinets and seeing five or six people dressed in black! Where exactly did he see them? What were they doing there, and were they really students as he claimed in his statement?

Though we have no indication of exactly where Bryan saw the five or six people in black, it is interesting to looking at the route that he and Chris took that day. You can see the line drawn by the investigator. They go from downstairs up to the upper level, down the south main hallway, turn left between the English and Social Studies areas, and continue north where instead of going out the front main doors they continue down the hallway through the administrative office area. They finally exited a side door just north of the main doors.

Now why did they do that instead of going out the front main doors? Bryan claims that there was no damage to the main doors so he obviously had no reason to fear that a shooter may lie just outside. On the other hand, was there something out there he wanted to avoid?

On the map, an x shows the cafeteria. Moreover, where is the x? On the outside of the cafeteria, clear on the opposite side of the building from where he claims to have seen the five or six people dressed in black. Since the investigator never discusses another x that represents anything, we have to ponder whether this "X" represents the five or six people that Bryan saw or whether it pertains to something else. If it does pertain to the people, that Bryan saw, than the investigator put it in the wrong place. The bigger question is whether it is there on purpose or by mistake.

On May 12, 1999, Bryan has another interview after his father called the investigator on 11th of May and told him that after Bryan looked at his yearbook; he was convinced that another student shot Lance Kirkland and not Eric Harris! Further, Bryan heard a rumor this person turned himself in to police.

He said that the reason that he originally thought that it was Eric Harris was that he knew it was not Dylan Klebold.

However, in his earlier statements Bryan did not know Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold, but suddenly now knows them. Bryan then claims that he made this conclusion because the media was announcing that the two killers were Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. He also states that the person he saw shooting had bad acne on his face.

If you have seen pictures of Eric Harris, you soon realize that he did not have acne. However, another student associated with the Trench Coat Mafia did, Dusty Hoffschneider. Looking at pictures of both Harris and Hoffschneider it is hard to believe that these two could be confused with each other.

The ATF would also get into the act of interviewing Bryan Frye on November 2, 1999. This interview gets interesting in that he not only describes the route that he and Chris took that day, he also says that once in the main office he realized that someone was in the school shooting.

Does this mean that he knew that there were people in the office area? On the other hand, does it simply mean he is restating the shooting at the end of the main hall? The ATF investigator asked him if he could identify the shooter from a photo packet. Bryan picked photo number 52, a photo that is Dylan Klebold. He said that previously that he believed that this person was someone else whose name is covered in black ink.

What has brought him to this conclusion?

Now he is saying that it is Dylan, when he had originally thought that it was Eric because there were only two shooters, and since it was not Dylan, then it must be Eric. Never mind the fact that he thought it was someone else entirely!

The ATF now confuses the matter even more by claiming Brian saw Dylan Klebold firing a weapon inside the school. In fact, he never saw anybody shooting inside; he just heard bullets flying off lockers. Once again the investigator never clarifies whether he is asking about the shooter outside the school or whether he is asking him to describe what happened in the main hallway he just writes that this is the person Bryan observes shooting in the school.

If the suspects would have lived and Brian was on the stand telling about his observations a lawyer would have asked him whether he saw this person inside the school or outside. Either the prosecution or defense is going to ask Brian whether he actually saw Eric or Dylan doing the shooting, and would have forced by the judge to make a determination as to which one it was, there would have been no; "I think with fifty percent accuracy, it was Eric or Dylan." He would have had to make that determination. Moreover, what would the court have done, had he said that he thought it was somebody else? Perhaps this is the reason why the two killers committed "suicide."

It is easy to see how investigators themselves are mudding the waters in the Columbine investigation when they fail to clarify for the record, the actual times and places when witnesses saw suspects and their descriptions. The big question; is this sloppy investigating? On the other hand, is this deliberate? 7
Stephanie Haney

Stephanie stated that she had the first lunch free and was exiting the cafeteria by the third or fourth exit, down from the school store. This was about 11:15am as she crossed the sidewalk she looked over, saw people entering through the double doors by the school store, and greeted them. Stephanie said that this was Harris and Klebold, but that there was also a third person with them with a white shirt on. She described this person as being about the same height as Eric. She described both Dylan and Eric as having their trench coats on with their hands in their pockets. Haney said that this male looked older than high school age and that in her four years at CHS she did not recognize this person. Haney described this person's shirt as a v-neck shirt or t-shirt that she said looked like an undershirt with its sleeves rolled up once or twice.

When Haney was driving out of the parking lot, she heard what sounded to her like a car backfire. She then heard another backfire, but when she looked back, she saw nothing so she kept going.

In a later interview with the FBI on 5/27/99 she describes pretty much the same thing including the guy with Harris and Klebold, except this time she says that she just nodded at the two instead of saying; "What's up?" like she claims in her first interview. She also claims that this person with Eric and Dylan looked to be in his twenties medium complexion, blond hair that was bowl cut. He also had on blue jeans and black boots. Haney also said that she never saw the three enter the building.

Stephanie also stated that there is an area under the stairs in the cafeteria where the Trench Coat Mafia hang out, but that they were not there that day which led her to believe that they knew what was going to happen. Stephanie also told the investigator for the FBI that Harris, Klebold, and Brooks Brown had their differences but that after Christmas they seemed to have gotten over it. She claims that she knew both Eric and Dylan, and only knows the Trench Coat Mafia by name but does not associate with them.

In yet again another interview, Stephanie once again holds to the fact that she saw a third person with Eric and Dylan who is older than high school age. In fact, she goes a little bit further in this statement in that she believes that other TCM members were involved because they were not there that day. Stephanie now would drop a bombshell in that she claims that she now has seen this third person before! Stephanie says that she saw this person at Mark Manes home in December of 1998. She said that the person she saw was taller than Eric or Dylan. At the time that she saw him, he had long slicked back black hair and a trench coat. She also described Mark Manes as a member of the Trench Coat Mafia.

Stephanie also stated she had smoked pot with Dylan Klebold at smoker's pit. She went on to state that both killers had talked about how they hated their parents, and even referred to either Dylan or Eric saying; "They'll get theirs", after one or the other had their car taken away for getting into trouble.

Stephanie also stated that neither of two was at the Prom but was at the after prom party at the school. She stated that she did not see the two with duffel bags or anything else. The investigator asked her how easy it would have been for the two to get to the rest of the school. Stephanie replies that the school is off limits but that the two had keys to the school because of their video production class.

It was not over after that interview. In another interview, Stephanie explains about the person with Eric and Dylan and about the TCM. Once again she reiterated that she three people walking towards her. One was Dylan Klebold, one was Eric Harris, and a third male whom she did not know was walking behind Harris and Klebold and that this person was not a student. She also added that she saw the TCM under the stairs on April 19, but did not see them on the 20th, which is why she concluded that they had to be involved. In this statement, Haney said that the person with Eric and Dylan was taller than Dylan and about 19-20 years old with dirty blond hair.

The investigator would go on to "explain" that with all of the evidence that the Columbine High School Task force had that Eric and Dylan acted alone. Haney seemed to accept this explanation. When told about the TCM and their whereabouts that day, Haney also concluded that they could not have been involved.

What did Haney have to say about the third person now? Haney concluded that he must have been just somebody walking behind Eric and Dylan. Haney then concluded that she did not know Eric and Dylan around the time she saw this third person at Manes house, which she claims, was on Halloween about three to four years ago. Stephanie would also elaborate on another point by saying that she was not actually at Manes house but was visiting a friend in the neighborhood when she observed the male.

According to the investigator who talked with Haney, the interview ended with the statement; "Haney and her mother having no concerns in reference to additional persons involved in the planning of or the actual shootings at Columbine High School on 04-20-99."

Wow! Do you see what is wrong with this picture? I certainly do. The best place to start is with the third person with Eric and Dylan on April 20. Haney does not know the identity of this person but she has seen him before at Mark Manes home. Remember that Mark Manes is the person who bought the High Point 9mm rifle for the two killers. Then when the investigator pushes her on that point in the third interview, she now claims that one; he must have just been somebody walking into the building that day and not somebody who knew both of the killers, and two she makes a correction; she did not see him at Mark Manes house in December of 1998. She actually saw him three to four years ago near Mark Manes house while she was visiting a friend in the neighborhood!

Stephanie made it very clear in her second interview that she was at Mark Manes home. In the second interview, she also described several people that were there. Another logical point to consider is if this person was at Mark Manes home on December of 1998, and then seen with the two killers, even if only walking behind them into the school then obviously he knew the two killers. Stephanie also makes it quite clear that it was December of 1998, not "three to four years ago" as she is now claiming.

In her last interview, Stephanie also claims she did not know Eric and Dylan at the time she saw this person at Mark Manes home. There are two problems with this statement; One; is that she saw him there in December of 1998, two, she claims that she knew the two killers at this time because she hung out with them at smokers pit and even smoked pot with Dylan there.

Stephanie also became "convinced" that the Trench Coat Mafia could not be involved after being told by the investigator their whereabouts that day. This also is illogical in that I will discuss in a later chapter how Trench Coat Mafia members were definitely involved. This in fact is due to where some of them ended up in the school while some of them were not even students anymore.

You have to begin asking some very serious questions here. The first being; "Why the sudden change in statement?"

In the case of when she knew the killers, if it was three to four years ago, then yes she probably did not know them. However, a bigger problem is that she claims that she saw the person who walked into the school with the two killers as being at Mark Manes home in December of 1998 at a time when she did know the two killers!

The key to this strange event lies with Mark Manes and the people who surround him. It is clear that the investigator had to break the link between the two killers, this third person, and Mark Manes. It became clear that the link between Mark Manes and the two killers couldn't be broken, but that wouldn't have mattered, as long as this third person just became a phantom in the night.

Are you getting concerned yet? Yes, well then, let us move onto the next witness.8
Courtney Haulman

Courtney was going down to the commons with Heather Avery. Both girls got their lunch then exited the commons from the farthest east exit and sat down on the concrete area just outside the door. It was at this time that Courtney heard gunshots. Both Courtney and Heather went over by the corner of the building to check it out and Courtney saw three people in trench coats standing next to the stairs, which lead to the west entrance of the school.

Courtney described the first suspect as a white male about 17 years old and about six foot three inches tall, medium build long curly hair, black trench coat, dark colored pants, and carrying a long gun. The second suspect was sixteen to seventeen years old, shorter than suspect one. Courtney describes him as a male with a medium build, no hat, no mask, dark clothing with a trench coat, and what Courtney described as a "grenade type thing." This person's shirt was also dark in color.

Courtney described the third suspect as a white male, wearing a trench coat, white shirt, and carrying something odd in his hand.

Courtney said that she recognized the first two suspects.

After viewing these people for a short time, Courtney and Heather ran back into the cafeteria and told everyone that someone was shooting. Courtney said that she, Heather, and a group of students ran to the foreign language hall to the farthest east classroom to hide. While hiding in this classroom, she felt three vibrations. After about ten to fifteen minutes, a teacher told everyone to exit the building and run to the park.

When showed a photo lineup of the possible suspects, Courtney picked the two known suspects from the lineup but could not identify the third suspect from any known photo the investigator had with him.

On October 25 of 1999, Courtney speaks with an investigator at a JCSO substation with her mother being present.

Courtney reiterates her statement that she cannot identify the third suspect and it is at this point that the investigator begins to testify for her as well as what I believe to be taking pot shots at her. For instance, the investigator says she appears "confused" when talking to him. He then makes the statement that she did not have on her glasses, as she is nearsighted.

So what does that mean, that she could not have seen a third suspect without her glasses?

She may be nearsighted, yet she was still able to identify two of the three suspects. Are we to believe that be nearsighted allows you to see two known suspects, but for some reason you cannot see suspects that JCSO does not want to put on the scene? They certainly had no problem with her near-sightedness identifying the two known killers.

Once again, could this be the reason that these two did not make it out of the school alive? I shudder to think what a defense lawyer would have done with this during trial. In fact, that is a good reason to make sure your suspects do not make it out alive. No trial, no questions about a third suspect.9
Trent Karnes

Karnes was in his car located in the far southwest parking lot when he heard what he thought was someone shooting. He turned around and saw a person standing at the top of the stairs at the northwest corner of the building. This person was holding a rifle and leaning on the fence, and was shooting down toward the people eating lunch outside the cafeteria. Karnes described this person as wearing a white dress shirt, black dress pants, and a black vest.

Karnes would go on to tell the investigator that there was another person with this shooter and that he was dressed in black Trench Coat, black pants, had long hair and sunglasses. Karnes stated that he had seen this person before in school. He also stated that as he watched this unfold that the person in the trench coat would run down the stairs and look at a victim. This would happen when the person in the white shirt would shoot the rifle at a student.

Karnes then left the area in his car dropped some people off and then when he returned to the school he could not get close due to the police presence. In this statement, the investigator states that it is about 100 to 200 hundred yards from Karnes car to where the shooter was located.

Was the investigator trying to infer that Karnes could not have clearly seen the shooter from the area where he was? I wonder had he claimed to see both Eric and Dylan clearly, whether the investigator would have put this comment in the statement.

Also, notice that Karnes talks about a person in a white dress shirt, not a white t-shirt. This is actually important. In the chapter, "Adult Supervision" this issue will see the light of day for the first time since the massacre.

In his second statement to investigator Jill Reuteler of the Colorado State Patrol, he describes the suspects in the shooting.

Once again he describes them exactly as before, but adds that the person in white he believes he has seen hanging around with the Trench Coat Mafia. Is he saying that this person is someone other than Eric or Dylan that he believes is hanging around the TCM? 10
Tiffany Lien

Tiffany Lien was eating lunch outside with Tessa Nelson when at 11:22am when she heard popping noises coming from the area of the stairs leading up to the west upper entrance to the school. She then saw a gunman come down the steps. This gunman stopped by the fence at the bottom of the stairs. Tiffany described this person as six foot tall, 17 to 18 years of age with long dark curly brown hair. He was dressed in a black trench coat with black pants, black boots, and black shirt with a baseball cap on backwards. She described the gunman as having the TEC-9.

This person was shooting towards the cafeteria area when Tiffany saw Anne Marie Hockhalter and Lance Kirklin injured by gunfire. It was at this time that Tiffany and Tessa ran into the cafeteria and hid in a bathroom. While hiding in the bathroom Tiffany could hear shots in the cafeteria. About forty minutes later Tiffany could hear shots upstairs, but the shots in the cafeteria had ended.

When Tiffany felt it was safe to leave, she and her friend fled the school and went to the Mormon Seminary house on Pierce Street. While there, Tiffany began looking through her 1998 yearbook where she found a picture of the person she thinks was shooting. The name of course is unreadable under all of the black ink in her statement. Tiffany went to state that the gunman she believed that she saw had dropped out of school before 4-20-99. When shown a photo lineup she was unable to identify the gunman in the lineup.

In her second interview, she picked photo #6 as possibly being the suspect she saw. At the bottom of her statement, there is a note that the suspect she saw had a lot of acne around the mouth and nose area of his face.

Then on 11-04-99, a BATF agent contacted Tiffany about the identification that she made. After going over her identification, she originally thought that the person was someone who remains unidentified but now believes it to be Dylan. She claims that the reason she thought that it was this other person was that he looked like Dylan. From the photo lineup that the BATF agent had with him, she picked photo #53 as being the suspect she saw. However, if you read the statement very carefully, she never actually says she believes that it is Dylan Klebold; the investigator says that Frye said it was Dylan. So why is Fryes statement doing in Tiffany Lien's statement?

From this, you can gather that she still has not really said that it was Dylan! The investigator acts like he trying to get her to accept another student's identification as being the known suspect that was doing the shooting.

If you reread Brian's Fryes statement, you will see that he claims not to know either of the two known suspects. So how could the investigator infer that Brian was claiming that the person was Dylan when he claims to have only seen Eric Harris and then later denied knowing either of the gunmen?

The investigator makes an invalid point by saying that Brian Frye identified Dylan from the cafeteria surveillance footage therefore it must be Dylan who Tiffany saw outside the school. This is fallacious thinking that a witness can see Dylan on the monitor in the cafeteria so it must be Dylan outside the school as well. Once again, the investigator is confusing the issue. Tiffany saw someone else, period.

Another bizarre interview with questionable interview tactics used on an unsuspecting student.11
Nancy Lindsey

Nancy was not a Columbine student, but a teacher from another school who happened to be jogging in Clements Park when the shooting began. Her statement really throws the whole time line into disarray. Nancy is a teacher at Deer Creek Elementary School and left there at 10:45am. She reached Clement's Park and began walking around Johnson Lake, which sits just North West of Columbine High School when she heard on her Walkman radio of the shooting at Columbine. She said that when she heard this on KHOW that it was no later than 11:15am and the radio station was reporting that there were two suspects on the roof of Columbine with hand grenades.

When she turned off her radio, she could hear three gunshots coming from the direction of Columbine High School. Suddenly a white male in his late teens or earlier twenties came over Columbine Hill that sits between the park and the school. Nancy said that this individual had two duffel bags, one in each hand. Nancy also said that this person was not wearing a trench coat. At no time did she see this person carrying a gun.

The second part of her statement that should concern you is the fact that immediately someone comes over the hill walking calmly, not running. This is not normal since just on the other side of that hill there is a mass-shooting going on at the school. Is this person a suspect? Was he just watching the events? On the other hand, did he help in some way?

Strangely enough, Nancy is never interviewed any further on the person she sees coming over Columbine Hill that day.12
Bijen Monte

Bijen went down to the commons from the library after history class. Bijen purchased her lunch at Rebel Corner. She met Brian Frye and Chris Therrien who wanted her to go out to the soccer field to play soccer but she refused saying that she did not want to play soccer. Monte then sat down outside the south commons door and Brian and Chris continued to try to get her to go out to the soccer field, but she would not go.

It was then that she saw a person in a trench coat come down the stairs. She saw three kids go down and that the person in the trench coat was standing over two of them. She recognized the person whose name is unreadable under the black ink in her statement.

She stated that she was certain that this person is not the two known suspects. She stated that he had a gun on a strap that hung around his neck.

Bijen described the gunman as follows:
He had on a black trench coat that extended beyond his knees.
He had on a black baseball cap backwards.
His face was long as well as his neck.
He had a narrow chin.
His teeth were crooked and he had an obvious over bite.
He had lots of acne and his face was white with red spots.
He had on a black t-shirt with white writing on the front of it. She clarified that the shirt was not tie-died.
He had on black tennis shoes, not boots.

Monte then looks at a lineup of pictures, she picked picture number six as the one she saw with a gun and even referred to him as a man, not a boy or teenager!

This interview occurs on April 30, 1999, but it would not be the last interview she would endure.
Once again, on May 1, 1999 Bijen Monte talks with an investigator where she gave the same description of the gunman and said that he was indeed the person she had identified in her first statement, though once again that name censured under black ink.

Bijen stated that she was sure of the identity of this suspect. She said that after he started shooting she ran into the cafeteria where she stayed shortly until two suspects in black came into the cafeteria. She then fled into the lower auditorium. When she got into the lower area of the auditorium, there were no suspects in the auditorium. She ran up the south stairs and hid behind an L- shaped wall.

Bijen then stated that the two suspects came into the auditorium through the lower level doors. She saw one man in black near the entryway doors and another man in black further north. Bijen then said that the man closest to the doors started moving up the south steps.

At that point, she and several other students ran north and out the north upper level door. She then went east and exited out by the administrative offices and onto Pierce Street where she went with others to Clement's Park. A teacher at the park told Bijen and others to go home. Bijen then left with Evan Ernst and tried to go east on Pierce Street but found their way blocked by police cars so they turned around and headed towards Wadsworth, which is west of the school.

Bijen Monte was not through yet, there would yet be another interview take place and that she would be in effect be called a liar in this one.

On October 21, Bijen talks with an investigator again. Still she would stick to her identification of someone other than the two known killers. However, here her story does seem to change somewhat.

Whereas before she stated that two suspects came into the cafeteria, she now states that she saw two people in black looking through the window of the cafeteria. Never describes them coming into the cafeteria. In addition, this time she describes two suspects in the auditorium, where as on April 30 she never described suspects in the auditorium.

In this last statement, she said she wanted to correct information concerning Sean Graves yet in Bijens other two statements she never even talks about Sean Graves.

Could there be a statement missing from the documents that have been released?

The investigator tells Bijen that the person she saw was at home during that period. Whereas Bijen replied that since it was a family member vouching for that person that they were probably covering for that person.

Bijen then looks at photos of suspects but could not identify anyone in those photos, but in one photo did say that the clothes she saw looked like what the person she saw standing over the two students was wearing.

The investigator asks how other witnesses in the same location could have different recollections as she and she replied that she had no explanation for why they saw something different then what she saw.

The interview ended with Bijen's father stating to the investigator that Bijen does not feel safe at Columbine and has been having bad nightmares in relation to the incident.

The investigators went this one time away without changing the mind of a witness. There are still however strange elements to her statements.

A good example is how she tried to correct herself about seeing Sean Graves, but in none of earlier statements does she even go into the names of those she saw get shot except to say that she knew who they were from news reports. So what was she trying to correct? And why that statement wasnt included in any of her other statements?

Why did she claim to not see any suspects in the auditorium, but then in a later statement, claims she did see suspicious people in black? Why did she also change her statement to say in the last statement that she only saw these two suspicious people in the auditorium, but never saw suspects enter through the lower level, as she had in an earlier statement? Why did she not talk about seeing suspects enter the cafeteria in her last statement, when in earlier statements she had said precisely that?

It is obvious that she could very well be confused on the timing of events. This is what happens when the official story only puts to two suspects at the school. Two suspects that witnesses cannot identify. 13
Tessa Nelson

Tessa and her friend Tiffany Lien went down to the cafeteria, got their lunch at 11:15am, and then went outside to eat. The time was 11:20am when they finally sat down to eat outside. Tessa remembers that after they sat down by one of the planters, another student came by and sat her backpack down next to them and then proceeded to the student parking lot. That student was Melissa Miller.

Tessa said that she had just taken a couple bites of her pizza when she heard popping sounds coming from the stairs area north of her position. She said that then people started coming down the stairs. At that point, she saw a white male in a trench coat coming down the stairs. This person also had on a black ball cap backwards and had a weapon that she recognized after watching the news as a TEC-9.

This person then shot Anne Marie Hockhalter. When Tessa realized what was happening, she and Tiffany jumped and ran into the cafeteria and then ran into a bathroom and hid with other girls. After a few moments, she thought she heard gunshots in the cafeteria area. Tessa heard about four to five explosions while in the bathroom, where she and the others remained for forty-five minutes to an hour. At that time, the gunshots started to become fainter. The last ten minutes that she was in the bathroom, she heard no gunshots or explosions whatsoever.

Tessa and three other students exited the bathroom, ran down the business hall and the doors to the junior parking lot, and ran to the seminary house on the corner of west Polk Avenue and Pierce Street.

Tessa said she knew who the suspect was, but that portion is under the ink of the censure in the documents, but strangely enough, a sentence later the name Perry appears in relation to whom she saw. When asked if she was sure it was him she stated she was sure and was shown a photo which was labeled number three, and picked that photo as the person she saw doing the shooting. That ended her follow up statement to JCSO investigator Brooks.

JCSO investigator Peterson on 10-22-99 interviewed Tessa again. She reiterated her earlier statement and added that the suspect had bad acne on his face.

The investigator tells her that from the evidence they have suggest only Eric and Dylan, but Tessa holds to her story. When she is shown pictures of the two known killers she says that neither of them is the shooter she saw.

She is also asked about seeing a suspect in the bathroom while she hiding with Tiffany Lien and others. Tessa replied that Tiffany had told her the mirrors damaged due to gunfire but that Tiffany did not actually see anyone shooting in the bathroom. Tessa did not see this damage to the mirrors. When Tessa went on a tour of the school after the shooting, she did not see any damage to the mirrors in the bathroom as Tiffany Lien had stated.

Here is another statement from a student that is obviously a thorn in the side of JCSO. In this statement, we have enough of a physical description to figure out who the suspect might be. In this case, obviously Robert Perry definitely has bad acne on the face, not to mention that he has an obvious over bite as well. It also certainly helps too that the people with the black markers screw up and leave his name in the documents instead of treating it to doses of black magic marker as elsewhere in the documents released by JCSO.14
Cindy Nichols

Cindy was outside with her friends, Melissa Miller, and Laura Smalley, when she thought she heard firecrackers and saw smoke. When she looked around, she saw two people shooting. Cindy saw them shoot a girl then go down the stairs and then back up the stairs.

Cindy noticed a person drive into the lot in a pickup and the suspects threw a bomb at him.

Cindy stated that she first saw the suspects around 11:25am to 11:30am. She said the suspects after shooting and throwing bombs outside then went inside where she could hear more bombs.

Cindy described the suspects to the investigator. She said that suspect #1 had on black trench coat, black pants with reddish/brown hair, was skinny and about five foot five. She also described his hair as shoulder length and greasy. He had a "two" handled gun that he was holding with both hands.

Cindy describes suspect #2 as a white male with dark black hair. He had on a gray shirt, and Cindy said that she could remember him throwing something.

This statement is short and gives little description of either suspect. From the height description that she gave of suspect #1 (if she is correct) then there is no way that could be Eric or Dylan as they both were especially tall.15
Steve Ogle

Steve who is a maintenance man for Clement's Park was on a high part of the park to where he could see Columbine High School, the football field, and the soccer field. Steve told the investigator that after a few moments he could hear popping sounds coming from the direction of the school thinking at first that it was a senior prank. When the popping sounds continued, he realized that it was something more. It was at this point that he saw a white male near the curved part of the building, which was later determined to be near the west stairway leading down to the commons area. He described this person as wearing White Dress Shirt!" When asked by the investigator to explain his description of the dress shirt, he said that it appeared to him to be a shirt that a police officer or firefighter wears! Steve said that this person appeared to have a gun in his right hand, which appeared to be a long gun, maybe a shotgun, according to Steve.

Steve said that he and Dick Strange who were both watching this decided to leave the area for fear of their own safety. They decided to go back to the maintenance shed in Clement's Park. As they were heading in that direction, they had to pass by some bleachers on the north side of the school. Not only could they see students streaming out of the school, but also they saw juveniles, as Steve described them sitting on the bleachers. He said that they were not moving, nor did they appear to be scared.

Steve did make a strange comment about not seeing any police vehicles in the parking lot. According to the investigator, Steve told them this because he had only observed a green police vehicle with marked police insignia between the school and maintenance shed earlier that morning.

Towards the end of the interview, the investigator asked him to describe once more the shirt that suspect was wearing. Steve once again said that it was a white dress shirt like what police and firefighters wear.

While Steve and Dick Strange were at the maintenance shed, other students and a teacher showed up. According to Steve, one of the kids said that the Trench Coat Mafia did the shooting. Steve also overheard a kid saying that there were fifty of them who did the shooting, and then went on to describe them as "Satanists."

This witness statement makes the case for at least one accomplice. Somebody finally gets the description of this suspect right after all this time. You see it was a white dress shirt, not a t-shirt. Who wears a white "service" dress shirt? Firefighters do, that is who! In the chapter on the "Adult Supervision," you will find out who this person is and how he is connected to Eric, Dylan, and the rest of the Trench Coat Mafia.

This brings us to the kids just sitting on the bleachers, who were they? The media speaks more than once about a strange group of kids sitting on the bleachers as though they were watching a game. No fear, no trying to run away from the massacre, just sitting. Could this be the Trench Coat Mafia? 16

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Mindy Pollock

Mindy, James Vitale, and Trent Karnes left the cafeteria through the double doors and headed to Karnes car. Just as she was about to enter his car she heard a noise that sounded like firecrackers. Mindy turned and saw a man running up and down the stairs outside the cafeteria. Mindy also saw a man at the top of the stairs shooting people. At the time, she did not believe that it was real, probably nothing more than just a skit.

As Mindy and her friends were driving down the street, they passed a police car that suddenly turned on its lights. That is when she suspected that what was happening at Columbine might be real.

Mindy described to the investigator the suspect that she saw running up and down the stairs as having on black pants, black shirt, and black hat on backwards, black trench coat, and carrying a silver gun.

The other suspect was wearing black pants, white shirt with suspenders, and carrying a huge black gun.

On May 4, 1999, police investigators would interview Mindy again. This time she would actually identify the suspects, but like with other statements, the names are under the censures black ink. She does however give a good description of the person in the white shirt. She says that it is a white button down dress shirt. This is certainly not the t-shirt Eric Harris was wearing. She also said that gunman who was at the lower end of the stairs is a student she saw last year at school but has not seen him there this year.

She described suspect #1 at the bottom of the stairs as follows:
He had on trench coat that extended beyond his knees.
He had on black baseball cap backwards.
His face was long and his nose was pointy.
He looked like a giant rat.
He had a light complexion and a mustache!
He had a silver gun!

She described suspect #2 at the top of the stairs as follows:
He had on looser fitting black pants and black boots.
White dress shirt that was button down.
He had a red hat on backwards.
He had long black gun.

Very good descriptions, but obviously did not impress JCSO as they re-interview her again about what she saw that day on 10-08-99. The investigator asks Mindy if she thinks that the suspect is still someone who name is under the censures black ink. Mindy said that after looking at Dylan Klebold's picture, that yes he was still someone other than Dylan.

The investigator is quick to point out that the person she saw at the bottom of the stairs was Dylan Klebold. He also stated that the person at the top of the stairs was Eric Harris, and he claims she did not dispute this. He concluded his report that there was no concern that there was a third shooter.

First, let us look at the end of the third statement where the investigator notes that concerns over a third suspect are resolved.

Mindy never talks about a third shooter; she just gave descriptions that did not match the two known killers at all. Another point is that the person at the bottom of the stairs had two important features that made him stick out:
Looked like a rat.
He had a mustache.

Mindy describes an ex-student at the bottom of stairs doing the shooting. Yet looking at the TCM group picture none of them matches this description. However, is there a non-TCM member that fits this description?

Remember Mindy made a statement about the white dress down shirt to the investigator. Other students have said that this represented a police or fire fighter's dress shirt. Could the former student that looks like a rat and has a mustache be a firefighter or police officer? Could very well be, but you will have to wait until the chapter entitled, "Adult Supervision," to find out for sure.

In addition, what could they have showed her that suddenly made her change her mind about who the two suspects were anyway? Could it be something in that still of the cafeteria? What could be in that photo that would want these students to change their story? 17
Janine Nichol Roberts

Janine and Patrice Doyle had just left foods class and were going to Robert's car to get pictures when they went out the upper west entrance by the library. There she saw Richard Castaldo and Rachel Scott eating lunch.

At the top of the stairs that leads down to the parking lot, she saw Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold standing by the fence by the corner of the building. She described Harris as wearing a black trench coat and Klebold as wearing black pants, but that is all she could remember about their manner of dress.

As she and Doyle reached the bottom of the stairs, she could hear popping sounds and she turned around to see one or possibly both shooting towards the back doors that she and Doyle had just exited from just moments earlier. She believed that this was actually a paint ball exercise and thought nothing more of it and continued on to her car.

A little while later, she turned and saw Harris and Klebold, fire at students on the hill west of the school. She said that she saw one boy hit in the leg and that others were fleeing from the two suspects.

At that point, Janine and Doyle hid behind a car in the senior parking lot. Janine then decided that it was time to leave and opened the door to her car, put the keys in it and told Patrice to drive. They left the school with Janine looking back one more time to see students with blood on them on the hill west of the school.

As she was being interviewed, her mother told the investigator that the family has a friend that works for Channel Four News and that this family member called Janine on her cell phone to ask what was happening at the school. Supposedly, Janine did not know whom she was talking to but told that person that the suspects were Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.

Her mother believes that this is how the names of the suspects became public so quickly.

Sounds like a good explanation for the identity of the suspects, only its not. You see there is news footage right here where this girl is talking to the news. That video shows the sequence of events is not quite the way her mother would have you believe they are.

This "friend" did not call Janine but in fact, Janine called the news herself.

She says; &quote:One of them was Eric Harris, and we don't know who the other one was."

She never says it was Eric and Dylan, just Eric Harris, also stating, &quotWe don't know who the other one is." She means that she could not identify the other suspect. She also wants to know how the news got a hold of her number.

The reply; "We we're told you called us."

A very strange set of circumstances with this witness.18

Watch the news interview with Janine:
Cara Sander

Cara and her friend Jennifer Tindall exited Columbine. From there they were going to Cara's car when Cara heard gunshots. She looked up and saw a gunman at the top of the stairs. She described the gunman as a white male, very full "pudgy" face, and overweight. He had dark eyes and dark bushy eyebrows. He was also wearing a trench coat and had a long gun that was silver in color. Cara noticed that the gunman had a blank look on his face.

Cara stated that there was a second person next to this gunman, also a white male, with a white t-shirt. Cara saw a girl get shot and her and Jennifer ran for her car, got in and left the parking lot, driving south on Pierce street. They drove to Tindalls' house where Cara called her mother.

When interviewed by JCSO investigator, Cara's mother told the investigator that her daughter described the shooter as big with bushy eyebrows, and very ugly.

Cara's mother also talked with the media the day of the massacre and said that her daughter told her that she did not recognize the suspect as a student.

You can view the video of that interview below:

Cara also said that she did not see anything unusual in the cafeteria, nor did she hear any screaming while in the building. Cara also said that after seeing Eric and Dylan's picture on the news she knew that neither one of them were the one doing the shooting.

After looking through her yearbook for the investigator she found a photo of one of the people she believed to be doing the shooting that day, and like usual that person's name is blacked out in her statement.

Obviously, her description of the suspects as well as the identification of someone other than Harris or Klebold caused some concern as she is speaks with investigator Moore on 4-29-99.

Once again, Cara restated her belief that the two people she saw were not the suspects whose pictures being televised on television.

Then on May 10, 1999, Cara's mother got another phone called from Dan Pfannestiel an investigator with JCSO. Her mother reiterated what statements her daughter made, and clarified that Cara was not in the cafeteria but was outside at the time.

That same day on May 10, 1999, a detective Montoya from the Denver Police Department contacted Cara Sander. Cara reiterated what she saw that day and said that she did not even know the suspects name until she picked his picture out of the yearbook. She then stated that the photo in the lineup was different from the yearbook photo.

Still not satisfied with Cara's identification of the suspect, she spoke to an investigator again on 10-6-99 where once again she stuck to her identification of the suspect. Here she adds however a few important points. One is that the suspects did have a duffel bag lying on the ground next to them where as before she does not recall seeing one. Two; she now states that she rolled down her windows and heard more shots, whereas before she claims that after her and Jennifer got into her car they never heard anything else.

Cara also told the investigator that they did not go to Subway, but instead turned around Coal Mine and Pierce. This gives the impression that someone said that Cara and her friends went to Subway. You also get the impression from her statement that someone or something made them turn around and head back towards Columbine. Cara also advised the investigator that she did not care what alibi the suspect had or what lack of evidence they had, she continues to believe that person was one of the suspects.19
Courtney Shakowski

Courtney was in the junior parking lot when she saw two suspects enter the commons entrance. She describe them as wearing trench coats and that one was five foot four while the other was much taller; about six foot two. Both suspects had blond hair though the taller one had long blond hair and the shorter suspect short blond hair. Courtney also stated that there was a third person walking behind the two in trench coats with a white t-shirt.

In her second statement, she clarified that she saw these suspects going into the commons at 11:15am. Courtney stated that she was with Lindsey Ludwig and Cora Lininger when she made this observation. Courtney thought by the way they were holding their coats closed that they were hiding something underneath them.

This is the extent of her statement, obviously, she could not identify the suspects or the person in the white t-shirt, but they were going into the cafeteria at 11:15am, this is something that JCSO does not have the suspects doing until they come down from the library into the commons during the shooting. Strange also that she mentions Ludwig and Lininger, but their statements are nowhere to be found in this section. Could that mean that they saw something that JCSO does not want known? 20
Caryn Slizeski

Upon leaving fourth period geometry class, Caryn then went to the library at about 11:10am. She was not there very long when a friend; Matt Hardy "talked" her into going off campus for lunch.

As she and Hardy exited the school from the main west doors, she noticed two people in trench coats between the soccer fields and equipment shed. She said that these two were walking towards Clements Park, and that she recognized one of them as Eric Harris. She said that the other person was fat with dark hair.

She continued and left the school with Matt, but as she was sitting at a stop sign, she heard an explosion, but did not know what was going on.

Where were Harris and this other person going at a time when they were supposed to be getting ready to do the shootings? Even more interesting is her description of the other person with Eric as being fat with dark hair? This certainly does not sound like Dylan Klebold.21
Dick Strange

Dick was providing a tour for Steve Ogle when he noticed five people dressed in trench coats on the north side of the school by the gymnasium. Both men continued and when he reached a small out building, Dick could hear what he thought were firecrackers going off. Dick then saw a person in a trench coat, standing in front of the southwest entrance to Columbine. This person dropped his trench coat, pulled out two guns, and began firing at students on the soccer field. Dick said that at this time he could hear explosions as well. Students began fleeing and some jumped the fence into Clements Park where they ended up at the maintenance building. Dick also said that the gun he heard was fully automatic, but then stated that he could hear the other gun also, and it was much louder and slower firing.

Dick decided that he and Ogle should leave and try to find a police officer.

Dick had an observation earlier that morning when he saw a black BMW 500 series driving through the junior parking lot that was full of kids and headed north away from the school.

Dick probably saw accomplices, unfortunately he only saw four to five individuals at the north side of the school. The description of the suspect pulling out two guns is also strange in that JCSO never has either of the two known killers with more than one gun firing at once.

His observation earlier that morning is also quite strange, though it could have very well been Dylan and others, but the identification of the car tells us that we are dealing with something else altogether. Dylan had a black BMW of course, but his was a 70's model 300 series. The 500 series did not come out until the 80's. So whose car did he see? Did the people in the car have anything to do with the massacre, or were they just hanging out? 22
Christopher Therrien

Chris was with his friends Bijen Monte and Brian Frye just outside the southwest doors of the cafeteria that day when he heard popping sounds coming from the north. He assumed as he turned around that it was some kind of senior prank. What he saw instead was Lance Kirklin falling down and another girl fall to the ground that had blood on her. That is when he noticed one of the suspects. Chris described this person as six foot one with a black ball cap, shoulder length hair and a big nose. He then saw the gun this person was carrying and fled into the cafeteria with Brian Frye. He then fled down the hall towards the administration office. When he turned into the north hallway, he heard shots fired in his direction. He then entered the administration area and saw principal Frank DeAngelis coming out of the office. He and Brian then left the building with other students and staff and went to Clement's Park.

When asked about the Trench Coat Mafia he claims he has heard of them but does not know them personally. He is also asked if ran into any suspects going out the front doors to which he replies that he didn't see any suspects when he left the building.

Chris then called JCSO on 5/12/99 to report that he thought he knew the identity of the suspect that he saw outside the cafeteria. Of course, that name unidentifiable due to the censures black ink, but Monte Bijen said she is sure that it is Joe Stair. Bijen and Chris were convinced that the suspect they saw after looking at the school yearbook.

Chris picked photo number five from the packet of photos of possible suspects. The photo he picked is Joe Stair, according to the documents.

What I find interesting about this statement is that you have two students who agree that is someone other than Eric or Dylan and the investigator never tries to discount him. So it is becoming obvious that anyone who questions the official story and has nobody to back them up is going to be discredited, whereas this student has another to back him up and the investigator leaves him alone.23
Jennifer Tindall

In her first statement to Colorado Bureau of Investigations, Jennifer stated that she and Cara Sander were going to the student parking lot after leaving the cafeteria when she heard what she thought was the sound of firecrackers. Jennifer looked back towards the school and saw a white male in a black trench coat walking up the stairs. She then noticed another person standing at the top of the stairs. This person was shooting at people in the parking lot. She stated that this person was about six feet tall, thin built, brown hair, and wore a white t-shirt.

Jennifer then saw a girl get shot in the leg and fall to the ground. The other shooter then turned his attention to Clements Park. Jennifer and Cara at this point left the school grounds and went to King Soopers. According to Jennifer, she later learned that the person she saw get shot in the leg was Rachel Scott.

On 4-21-99, Diane Obbema from the Jefferson County contacted Jennifer. In the statement she pretty much reiterates what happened but adds that, she now thinks that the second person with the shooter was Eric Harris because that is who her friends told her was at the top of the hill that day.

On May 12, 1999, a detective from the Denver Police Department and the identification of the shooters contacted Jennifer Tindall. When shown a packet of photos she picked a possible suspect out of the line up whose identity of course is concealed by black out.

Then on 6-14-99, an investigator from JCSO would again interview Jennifer about her experiences. Here she described where she was originally before the shooting. In this case, she was in the cafeteria and then went outside with Cara Sander. She then gives an account of the Trench Coat Mafia and talks about how she is scared of them. The investigator asks Jennifer is if she knows anybody with a double pierced eyebrow and she answers that, "Yeah, Nate Dykeman."

In the conclusion of this interview, the investigator makes a note that Jennifer had been seeing a counselor before the events on April 20, 1999.

This however, would not be the last interview of this witness. Jennifer spoke on 12-9-99 to the ATF. Here she states that originally she thought that person she saw outside the school that day was somebody other than Eric or Dylan, but after seeing their pictures, she is now sure that it was both of the two known killers.

The ATF states for the record that after seeing photos of the known suspects, Jennifer is sure that it was Eric and Dylan that she saw on the stairs that day. How thoughtful of the ATF to remind witnesses of whom the suspects really are.

This statement is just one of many that reveal a pattern of students changing their statements after talking to federal authorities. Could it be that there is more going on in these interviews than is being admitted to? Like maybe, a little bit of intimidation. 24
James Evan Vitale

James was in the south parking lot that day and was getting ready to leave when he heard popping sounds. He looked north and saw a kid on the hill with a gun. He described this person as having dark skin, dark hair, and a white t-shirt. This person also had on a trench coat and black pants. It also looked like this person had a rifle.

James then saw another person who was running up and down the stairs. He described this person as wearing a black ball cap on backwards and had long blond hair. He said that he had seen this person around the school before, but did not know his name.

When James left the parking lot, he saw Sheriff's cars approaching. He went home and then decided to return to the school but found a command post had been set up and he was directed to Leawood Elementary.

On 5-11-99 James was again interviewed a Golden Police Investigator and told pretty much the same story but with a few additional details. Now he states that he was in a car with Mindy Pollock and Trent Karnes when he heard the noise and looked back at the school. Evan now believes that he saw a third person shooting and bases this on the fact that it would have been impossible for the other two to move to where this person was located. Evan stated that this person was wearing a white shirt and black pants. Evan could not rule out however that this person might have been Klebold, but he was not sure.

Jefferson County was certainly not pleased with his statement of seeing a third shooter and set up another interview with a JCSO investigator. However, after having missed four appointments, the investigator turned the lead over to Kate Battan.

On 11-16-99, JCSO investigator Luciano did make contact with James Vitale for an interview. The investigator told Evan how based on his description he was describing the same person as in his first statement, so that there could not have been a third shooter. The investigator put it in his notes that Evan had no more concern about a third shooter.

Once again, you have investigators writing witnesses statements to their point of view without regard for what the witness really observed. In this case, Evan never identified Harris or Klebold but only stated that the person he saw "could" have been Klebold, but he was not sure.25
Stephanie Wagner

Stephanie said that she was at Smoker's Pit and had started walking towards the cafeteria when she heard an explosion. The time was 11:15 - 11:20am Stephanie really did not think anything of the explosion, because she thought it could have been a senior prank.

Stephanie then saw Eric Harris at the top of the stairs and that he was talking to Brooks Brown. She then said that Brooks went down the stairs and Eric turned towards the west doors and began shooting. The investigator wanted to know if Stephanie was sure that it was Brooks Brown and she stated that she was sure that it was he.

She then stated that she got scared and turned and ran to Clements Park.

What is interesting about her statement is in seeing Brooks Brown talking to Eric Harris at the top of the west outside stairs. According to Brooks, he saw Eric by his car. If she is correct then that puts Brook's right there where the action happened. This also puts Brooks back in the spotlight as a possible suspect, or at the very least a person with foreknowledge of the shooting. From where she puts Brown it would have been almost impossible for him not to know what was happening as he has stated to JCSO.26
Chris Wisher

Chris was with his friends on the soccer field and saw three suspects east of his position. Two of them were wearing trench coats and one was wearing a white shirt. Chris and his friends started running, but then thought that maybe it was a prank and turned back towards the school. He then saw the person in white throw what he thought was a grenade on the roof. Chris also saw a student shot. That is when Chris and his friends starting running again to get out of the area.

On April 27, 1999, an agent would contact Chris with the FBI about his statement on 4-20-99. It is here that he elaborates a little more on where he was and what he saw that day.

According to Chris, he started out in the cafeteria that day with Jake Apodaca, Josh Chavez, and John who have last name he did not know in the cafeteria. It was then at about 11:15am or little before that he saw Dylan Klebold walk into the cafeteria through the southwest doors and proceed to the vending machines. Chris described Dylan as wearing all black with a black trench coat and a black ball cap with a red socks emblem on it. Chris knows both Eric and Dylan.

Chris stated that after the 11:15am bell him and his friends left the cafeteria and walked towards the soccer field. He then heard what sounded like firecrackers going off behind him. According to Chris, about fifty yards away by the cafeteria he saw a tall white male in all black with a black trench coat with what he thinks was a black hat and dark sunglasses. Chris did not recognize this person but thought that it might be somebody, (who once again their name is under the black ink of a censure), because this person was the same height and build. Chris saw this person shoot three students near the southwest corner of the cafeteria. This person then turned his gun towards Chris and his friends and began firing at them. Chris and his friends ducked down on the ground and covered their heads. When Chris looked back up there was a male in a white t-shirt and blue jeans kneeling near the northwest corner of the cafeteria. Chris said that this person had no gun or any other type of gear.

Chris then said that this person threw some type of object on the roof and after a few seconds, it exploded. He described it as giving off a flash of fire and a pall of smoke.

Chris said that while the guy in the trench coat and the guy dressed in white were outside, he could hear gunfire coming from inside the building as well.

After this person threw the bomb, Chris and his friends left the area and went to a house on Teller Court where Chris called his dad to tell him he was safe. Howard Wisher, Chris's father noted the time of the call as 11:20am.

Chris also noted to the investigator that he knew Joe Stair and Chris Morris, both members of the Trench Coat Mafia.

Of course, not being satisfied with this student's admission to seeing more than two gunmen that day, JCSO decides to re-interview Wisher about his experiences that day.

It is here that things start to get a little interesting as Chris can now identify a third suspect.

According to Chris as he is standing outside the crime scene tape, a reporter asks him if the person sitting in a red van is one of the suspects. Chris walks up to the van, looks in, and states that that looks like him. Chris however is unsure. The investigator notes that Chris is unsure of the identity of the suspect he saw.

If you think that the investigators are through, think again. On October 12, 1999, JCSO investigator Jack McFadden about what he saw on April 20, 1999 again interviews Chris Wisher.

It is here that Chris seems to discredit himself to some extent, or so it would seem. Here the investigator tells Chris that since the person he is identifying was at home when the shooting began, then it cannot possibly be him and Chris agrees.

Chris looks at a packet of photos and picks Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold based on the clothing description, but not on any facial recognition.

This is a very interesting statement from Chris Wisher. It sounds like he definitely saw a third shooter that day. It is also worth mentioning that his father received a call from him at 11:20am about the shooting. That probably puts the shooting well before the official time of 11:21am, as it would have taken him at least a few minutes after leaving the scene to find a phone. This earlier time is for further discussion in the chapter, "The Time line."

Another point worth noting about Chris Wisher is that once again a student is re-interviewed four times because he claimed to see someone else doing the shooting. Finally, what happens? He is convinced that it could have only been Eric and Dylan.

Yet, Chris would not stay quiet for very long.

Chris would go live Mike Webb radio show in Seattle to tell his story about observing another suspect that day. Suffice to say, as with others, investigators may be pressuring Chris Wisher to change his story about seeing anyone other than Eric and Dylan that day.27

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Videos:

http://www.columbineconspiracy.com/colvideo.html

The Columbine Video Page

Posted by Posted on 02.02.2009 by Phantom B (William K Zabel) - author

On these pages you will find video taken by the media during the Columbine massacre. Student's, staff, and law enforcement were interviewed about the events that day. You will notice that information given that day in the news interviews does not appear anywhere else, especially in the investigative files from the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office.

Take not of what many of these people say, especially in regards to Adam Foss where he talks about three suspects and a "Crossfire in the Choir/Science Hall", it is in these videos that little gems of information will come to light that shows cracks in the official version of events put forth by JCSO. Also note the video of the strange men in the green mini-van. Though this footage was taped by a stringer for the BBC, it never made the mainstream news, but was released by the Littleton Fire Department. In this video you will see this green mini-van being escorted off the Columbine property by the Colorado State Patrol. Who are these people? Cops, sombody else? Read the, "Special Operations", chapter to find out the surprising answer to who these people are.

You will also see video in this section of responding officers being fired at from someone at the west library doors as they try to rescue downed students. In the chapter, "Police Response," you will see that this exchange between unknown suspects and officers occured after JCSO claims the two suspects committed suicide!

There are also videos of the memorial to Columbine students killed that day where you can clearly see the oddities going on there including the men in camouflage carrying guns around the memorial as well as the strange attendance by high ranking politicians, military officers, and Christian celebrities.

There are also videos considered to be non-Columbine videos where people are interviewed who in some way either have expert opinions on Columbine or had experiences directly or indirectly related to the Columbine massacre in some way. Take for instance non-Columbine witness Ron Aigler who was physically abused by JCSO deputies, especially JCSO Deputy Tim Walsh who threatened Ron Aigler, this is the same deputy who arrested Harris and Klebold for breaking into a van in January 1998. Ron Aigler suggests that something must have happened during the arrest to drive Harris and Klebold to madness.

Also take for instance, Murriel Woodard who was put in a jail cell with Columbine suspect, Eric Harris, just days before the Columbine massacre! JCSO has never admitted to this publicly, yet the Columbine review Commission found evidence of the multiple contacts with Harris and Klebold by JCSO after the van arrest, which supports Murriel Woodard's ascertain.

Videos on Columbine

Chris Wisher News Interview
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
In this video, Chris Wisher, Columbine High School student (1999) talks about a live suspect that was arrested that he identifies as the one who shot at him and his friends on the soccer field behind Columbine High School.More…

Murriel Woodward - Non-Columbine Witness
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Murriel Woodard was in the Jefferson County jail the weekend before the massacre and talks about Eric Harris being in a jail cell with him. His observation suggests that JCSO had multiple contacts with Harris.More…

Jake Apodeca - News Interview
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Jake Apodeca, Columbine High School student (1999) talks about three suspects on the back side of the school that he and Chris Wisher observed from the soccer field.More…
 
Greg Moss - News Reporter - KUSA 9 News
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Greg Moss tells the public about receiving reports from authorities about people hanging out on the roof of the school. This suggests that there was more than one suspect on the roof that day.

Jonathan Ladd - News Interview
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Jonathan Ladd was interviewed by KUSA 9 News and told about hearing what sounded like semiautomatic weapons fire. This student would later die in a mysterious plane crash over west Denver, Colorado. More…

Kim Sander - Columbine Parent (1999)
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Kim Sander talks to 9 News about her daughter's, Cara Sander, observations where she says her duaghter told her that the suspect she saw was ugly and was definitely not a student. More…
 
Strange NATO Shield
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Here is news footage of a JCSO deputy pushing around a Kevlar shield on a cart that has the word, "NATO" written on it. This deputy seems to be purposefully showing the public this shield as though he is trying to send a message. More…
 
Steve Davis - JCSO Public relations Officer
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Listen to Steve Davis describe taking cover as shots had rung out after he arrived. He describes the weapons as, "heavy shots, long rifle or automatic weapon!"
 
Adam Foss - Columbine High School student (1999)
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Adam Foss, a senior in 1999 at CHS talks about three suspects with guns in the choir hallway. He also claims to have been in a crossfire! This suggests that the suspects were either shooting at each other, there were cops in there engaging the suspects! More…
 
FBI - Detonator Too Sophisticated
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Shawn Boyd reports that an FBI sources told her that detonator on the bomb found in the kitchen was too sophisticated for the two teen suspects to have made themselves.More…

FBI _ Hostage Rescue Team
Posted by Phantom B on April 10, 2009
Although the FBI calls the team that goes into buildings where there are hostages the; "Hostage Rescue Team" as we have seen in Waco and Ruby Ridge, the hardly rescue anyway, in fact they are the assassination team of the FBI! Here they are at Columbine being escorted off the school grounds from the back side so that nobody would notice them. But somebody did, a stringer from the BBC taped this footage. The identity of the person sitting in the right front passenger seat will surprise you; it is none other than Thomas Klebold, Dylan Klebold's father. Now just what is he doing dressed in FBI garb and riding in a van full of HRT people? More…