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« on: April 12, 2009, 03:53:50 PM »

From Earthlasthope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wae--Tp1OU

Bird flu being transported by the Dept. of Homeland Security. Sources are in video the trucker's manifest is transporting the virus:

From 30 Karner Rd, Albany NY, (Albany County Dept Health) to 11 Wards Lane, Menands, NY which houses several Verizon offices.

Police are escorting driver after he unloads. 



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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 04:57:41 PM »

Truckers Unwittingly Used to Transport Dangerous Avian Flu Materials?
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2433
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From the Health Freedom Action eAlert of April 8, 2009
Please help us confirm or deny this information.

Information has been provided to us by a Natural Solutions Foundation supporter who lives in the region in which she has gathered the information that you can read below. It is highly disturbing, not only because of the contents of the information but because without further data, it is impossible to determine what it means.

Considered in light of the very disturbing incident in January 2009 where annual flu “vaccines” being delivered to 18 countries were “accidentally” contaminated with live Avian Flu Virus, we are very concerned. See: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2191

Has a civilian work force of truckers (and others?) been recruited to disperse highly hazardous materials with the intent of destroying social order and creating an intentional bio-false flag event?

Has civilian well-being been endangered through bizarre transportation activities which expose large populations to extreme dangers without following the established channels for moving highly hazardous materials?

If the US Government is involved, are these activities rogue, or authorized activities? If the US Government is not involved, who is responsible for them?

Is this really happening at all?

The person who collected this data believes she may be in danger but has sent this material to hundreds, she says, of media sources. None has, to date, published this material. Without corroboration, or information which falsifies it, no one would know what to do with it. Ignoring it is easy. But what if the few dots in this picture, while not fully filled in, do, in fact, make a portrait of something critically important? Can we ignore it?

So we are asking you, nearly a quarter of a million strong, to be our intelligence system: if you have information which would make or break this story, send it to dr.laibow@gmail.com with “TRUCKERS” as the subject.

We’ll treat your information as confidential, and put the pieces together, then share the info without revealing your names.

Ralph Fucetola JD, Natural Solutions Foundation Trustee

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Here is the information we were provided:

The testimony enclosed will RISK lives. Please handle with care and only give to mid level trusted personnel. Handle with care as my intent is to not risk life as a result of this testimony. I FEAR THIS IS BIRD FLU-80% LETHAL. DO NOT HESITATE READING THIS LETTER AND ACT NOW! If this were ever to be the case, once released, it would be too late for all of us. HELP!

WARNING: Do not give this to your superior officer until you digest this and KNOW who you can trust. The superior officers in many agencies, government and private law enforcement are corrupted and infiltrated, were politically appointed and their subordinates are unaware, by the same people attempting to destroy our country. I sent this to a mid management level on purpose in hopes that it is acted upon before those involved can stop this information from being investigated. I even fear from information gathered at a secret meeting in Lake Placid NY, that took place at the Lussi Gold Crown Plaza on Oct 17-19, 2008, that the Joint Chief’s of staff attended, therefore may be involved. The secret meeting that leaked was attended by Dick Cheney, all three Joint Chiefs of Staff (Mullen) Hilary Clinton, George Bush, Condalezza Rice, Kissinger Italian, African, British representatives (Air Force II) (See Adirondack Life, page 10)-winter issue after the leak) and many others. Biological discussions took place. I cannot divulge the informant for his safety. I even fear even GEN Petraeus could be on the wrong side and the surge in Afghanistan to leave us HERE less protected. My trust factors are completely shattered as are many Americans at this moment.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is up to no good. I have spoken to informants that are afraid to come forward so I am risking my life to bring it to you. There are many good people in this agency that think they are performing normal job duties and working toward homeland security. They are not aware of the sinister goings on and what is actually taken place. I will tell you what IS happening and then I will prove it in the contents of this letter. This is NOT conspiracy theory and if you dismiss it for such you will be very sorry as you will be a victim to what is about to happen as will those you love. You MUST take this serious and investigate this immediately. I repeat immediately. If you get nowhere convincing those you approach whom you trust, don’t stop. Our lives depend on it. We must stop these monsters once and for all and I feel their attack is days, weeks, and months away. They are moving quickly and fear time is of the essence.

The letter below was written prior an URGENT NEW DEVELOPMENT that is, I fear, LIFE THREATENING for you, your family and America. I spoke to a trucker who is trucking what I fear to be biological/weapons and other terrorist material.

New Developments written after letter below:

A trucker who owns a private truck, by word of mouth was asked to transport material for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). He and many others are doing this daily (sometimes 3 trips a day). They are being paid 5000.00 per load in cash by Rockefellers “Bank of America.” They are given slips (approx 5X7) that read “EASTERN CONNECTION” in the upper right hand corner with an orange and red insignia. These multiple carbon copied forms are stapled to packaging forms (8X11). The truckers take this forms, one each, for each load. The hours they are in transit are written in pen. They are given a number (each trucker their own private number) and they present this paperwork to Bank of America in person. They are not paid at the counter, but paid after being brought in a private room in the bank. They must recite their individual number and are paid by check. On the statement it read:

“Independent Contractor Settlement Trust”
“Bank of America”
“Independent 12345”

(a different number for each load, I did not list the number I saw, for protection of the trucker, nor his number). There are menial deductions on the stub to fool (he was told) the tellers at the bank and those deductions were promised to them after the fact and will be paid to them. They are sent the amount of the phony deductions at a later date. The trucker was told they will not pay taxes on this money. Ever. The TO: on the slip says 30 Old Karner Road, Albany N. Y, and the FROM: Verizon, 11 Wards Lane, Menands, N.Y. Although he stated that at no time has he been to EITHER of these locations. Is given a white bag to put ALL contents used during their trip. Any coffee cups, sandwich wrappers etc. They are instructor at NO time are they allowed to chew gum. A DHS personnel hands the a white bag and all garbage is collected by DHS after the trip. He heard on one occasion that DHS was going to bankrupt the postal service and it was eventually ALL going to be privatized.

He is required to exit his truck while DHS loads it in secret. He waits at various places for his truck to be loaded and given NO timeframe. He waits and is fed well and kept comfortable by staff. He then has his truck returned to him with an electromagnetic lock and is escorted, sometimes with green cars, white vans, and on one transport in New York, by Menands Police Dept. The police car is waiting for them when they leave and escorts them so far then turns around. He then is given a map and are instructed to drive different routes at times. Those that truck with him are separated but end in the same destination. At the destinations such as Washington, plain clothed men with expensive guns are waiting for him. His truck is unloaded while they are held up in a 5 star Hilton Hotel and with food and drink. They were told they must leave the area they live in presently when this is all over as it is not safe. That for the sake of their families can go to a place called “Sand Point” near the water in Washington where only those that are good to the government, they, in turn will be good to them. The names he could recall were “Arbey King McGregor, (white)” “Lee Morgan, (white)” “Fattah,” (Arab) and a very dark (African) man who was a 3 star GENERAL whose name escaped him. His phone rings constantly as these individuals do no let him out of their grasp. The number is always different and he was instructed to NOT write down the phone numbers. On the trips, they are instructed to not stop at red lights, to urinate or defecate. That if they have to use the bathroom, they must do so IN THE TRUCK or in a urinal-NO MATTER WHAT! They drive non stop to their destination. They have been sent places where they “thought” they were going. Then, a lead car stops them and diverts their direction sporadically. They have turned down many dead end streets that say “Dead End,” but are let in gates that they drive miles into open fields (gravel driveways) that end where their trucks are lowered into the ground and disappear to be loaded. On one load waited and fed with the other truckers. When the truck raised out of the ground from a baron field, there were personnel with tyvex suits, masks, booties, and he was given a vaccination (injection of some sort) for his safety during the transport (safety?) He was told this was in order to protect his family. He showed me the injection site. He transports weapons, military equipment etc from Edison Street in Amsterdam New York near Robo Car Wash. Another employee stated that that building held “anything and everything” you would need military. (”Blackwater”?)

He was given a stack of 10’s of vouchers for future deliveries. I counted 100,000.00 worth of deliveries for just weeks of work. He is “on call” constantly. He is called 3 and 4 times a day to just “see how he is doing.” He is called for meetings that are held unannounced at 2 and 3 o’clock in the morning, told to come right away (they knowing how far he is from the DHS facility, then asked how he is doing, then sent home. He stated. “too many meetings.”

The trucker was suspicious and nervous because those in charge stated things about his personal life that no one could know, as he did not tell them. He is concerned for what he has gotten into and the safety of his family. He did it ONLY for the money and is not allowed to see the contents of what Department of Homeland Security loads in his truck. He is required to wear a uniform. The uniform is a light blue shirt (short sleeves with button up similar to a golf shirt) with “Eastern Connection” and the same red and orange insignia that was on the paperwork. He must wear white sneakers and black pants. If he is not in that uniform he is not let into the areas of DHS. He has done many runs and is shipping biological material to many cities, military base planes, remote fields, underground bases etc. I know of one trucker who transported (he was able to peak and see his contents) a large cylinder (missile?) to Phoenix Arizona- stated “the largest underground base” in North America. He was paid 18,000.00 per load. It was told to me that other trucks in line for such pick ups are J.B Hunt and TONS of Raymour and Flannigan Furniture and Wal-Mart tractor trailers. That they are a front for CIA in Syracuse and Syracuse Research Corp. That the Wal-Mart warehouses may not only have clothes and food but weapons of terror, as they are highly secured and guarded. A relative aware of this theory who lives in New York stated they counted an average of TEN Raymour and Flannigan (need to figure out what companys they are using in your individual states) double tractor trailer loads with a white van tailing them in a period of an hours drive on the New York State Thruway heading west. They are moving something and are up to no good. It is now confirmed that they are loading trucks at the DHS facilities in secret from the Clinton St/Broadway Albany NY building near Charles Swab and Bank of America late at night in secret, paid in cash and non taxed. The underground base was off Main Street in Glens Falls near a Stewart’s, take left near a carwash at the end of a dead end street. (Possible old missile silo or underground base). A Federal agent stated Plattsburgh was a Air Force SAC base at one time and there were silos protecting them that may be being used. That there is another one 4 miles north of Elizabethtown N.Y. That the gate/fence was removed and they drove 6 miles on a gravel road to an underground facility.

That they were DONE with that location and were now moving more North. He has waited at a Stewarts quick shop on Rt. 20 in Guilderland while his truck was loaded for three hours with other truckers. There are military installations on Foundry Road in Guilderland NY. He also loaded a C130 ot 109 Stratton Air Base and did see medical equipment (white solution in bags-90 boxes being loaded) They have made trips to Baltimore, Washington and now New Jersey. They are going to load near Elizabethtown at another silo they are using soon. The company listed both on the checks and vouchers does not exist in research. Who IS this African former three star general.

Why does DHS need to do movement material to PROTECT us in secret for cash? Who is Fattah? This General? Why are white men in fancy SUITS there when he is assembled. He stated: Money is NO object. They even offered him 25,000 to purchase another truck.

What I think: I think the Department of Homeland Security is a shadow government of George W. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield (Blackwater) and company. That money (Bailout$? Lack of transparency if financing our demise) is illegally funded to “in the name of” Homeland for the Security for the destruction of our country. That something HORRIFIC is about to happen to our country! The Stimulus Package funded the camps, NIH, CDC, Government cars and the Railroad. All needed if were to unleash a PLANNED H5N1 Attack! That those at the top levels of government are paid off or possible death threat and their intent is to hurt us with many trusting citizen Americans underneath them that have no idea what they are up to. I believe the (proof below) that H5N1 Virus (Avian Flu) and possibly pre-planted nuclear devices in major cities (proof below) or similar will be inflicted on our country by our own corrupted government. That our government has sold us out and we are going to be victims of a false flag attack for which this trucker is unknowingly servicing.

The build up of the Avian Flu scare and preparation (See healthfreedomusa.org and type in “Avian Flu” or “H5N1,”) they state is inevitable and believed by those who do not know better is a farce. Millions world wide are aware of this and proof ignored. That the FEMA detention centers are REAL. The crematory’s behind Tobyhanna Military Depot, and places across the country are staffed and ready to go. The coffins stacked at these facilities are for Biological deaths (keep biological contents safe for 100 years by company who supplied them) (artificially inflicted-false flag) to weaken our resistance to a Fascist/Communist take over. Once Military law is enacted and the population reduced by 80% as a result of a nuclear biological attack (from inside), this takeover will be easier. For those of you who live near railroad tracks, have you noticed the train traffic, night after night for months now. So loud, its hard to sleep. When investigating the insignia’s on the trains the realization that they are ALL from China. Clintons gave Communist China the Long Beach Naval Shipyard in 1997, Bush handed it to Communist China in 2000 and COSCO-China’s weapons dealers (also see their trucks) in 2000. The closing of our bases and reduction of our forces was intentional to weaken us and the bases converted into FEMA camps for our demise. This has been planned for years and we are witnessing history in its unfolding. We MUST STOP THEM.

The FEMA trains are real. Presently there are 30 miles of them parked nearby-empty. (See Beech grove video on “thepowerhour.com). There are MILES of them parked in various places in the country waiting to be filled with troops, bodies? Henry Kissinger ringing the NY Stock Exchange bell with three high level officials from China is NO ACCIDENT. That China owning our only deep water ports and Panama Canal (also done by Clinton) no accident. I feel we are in GRAVE danger and this trucker is unknowingly trucking what the Clinton/Bush and now Obama (real name Barry Sotoro of Kenya) Administration intend to use on the American People. See NAFTZ (Rockefeller CEO) and FTZ (Foreign Trade Zones). That is where the Queen/Bush/Canadian Railroad, CSX and Global bankers are locating the supply’s they are bringing in ON TRAINS ALL NIGHT LONG. We have researched MOL, API, COSCO and others with CSX for miles all night long across America. Because of the 100 mile NO CONSTITUTION ZONE declared the entire perimeter of the continent of America, these train shipments are not scrutinized, examined, go through customs. It was the PERFECT plan for a takeover and they are about to complete it. Go to ANY county and type in the county and “Foreign Trade Zones” (FTZ) and you will find things located in these areas that I think are there to hurt us. This is my assumption after months and years and interviews with those involved. This is SERIOUS. WE ARE GOING TO DIE if SOMEONE DOES NOT INVESTIGATE the FEMA CAMPS, THE TRAINS, THE CASH being funneled through Bank of America (the real reason for the Spitzer, Blogivich) demise (their resistance to Rockefeller bank) WHAT THESE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS ARE TRUCKING AND WHERE. WHAT IS IN THE MULTITUDES of UNDERGROUND BASES? The contents of the vaccines they are transporting (death or protection for us?). An attack (See Bidens warning) and soon? The bankers have sold us out! They CARE NOT for America’s existence. Is this why China owns our bad foreclosure paper? HELP US!

Truckers should NOT BE TRANSPORTING what they are NOT aware of in their trucks. Tell truckers to NOT transport what they themselves cannot inspect.

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 05:10:23 PM »

Holy FRACK --- So, we can assume they now have their super flu.

They are even shipping it all over the country apparently.

Leaving me with the strong gut feeling they will soon be putting these biologicals into the chemtrails.

Sadly, it's safe to assume that when they pass the kill the internet bill in a month or 2 -- they will then introduce these biologicals into the Chemtrails after they shut it down.

That way we have no way of exposing them any longer...... because our internet will be gone Sad

This is very serious and we need to put a stop to it now. Call your congressman and tell them to oppose Jay's bill to kill the internet.  This MUST be defeated NOW before it's too late and we are all left with no way to expose this publicly on a global basis.....,
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 05:12:42 PM »

So here are the entities discussed in the video:

Bank of America (already tied to the Iran Nuke false flag and the bailouts)

Eastern Connection Trucking (anybody know about this?)

109th Air Guard

Civic Center, Falls, NY

Sandy Point, Maryland (club med for ex feds?)

30 Karner Rd, Albany, NY
(Albany County Department of Health)

to

11 Wards Lane, Menands, NY
(houses several Verizon offices)

New York State Thruway 3 miles of railroad outo carrier cars (often reported as FEMA trains)





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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 06:17:51 PM »

Good questions Sane.

The SF blackout q however is one I can answer.  It appears these reports cover everything up to the day they are published.

So , Monday's report should contain Friday's news......
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 07:04:12 PM »

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-bird-flu-cases-suggest-the-danger-of-pandemic-is-rising-1667526.html

new artical...

Damn not looking good this??
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2009, 07:10:39 PM »

MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS PAPER : IT STARTS TO ACTUALLY CHECK OUT.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=4594201a46c2eae541446e35a78dc463e04e75f6e8ebb871
http://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNJT0NiTERCSnJIRGc9PQ
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2009, 07:11:14 PM »


this is already up on pp.  it is almost new Wink
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2009, 07:13:38 PM »

Wtf is that about?
Do i download it or something?
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2009, 09:06:20 PM »

Thanks Sane for the new info. I am still reading the new info from natural solutions and am speechless. It was a smart thing to start a new master thread on this.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2009, 09:35:13 PM »

There is your stock tip. VRGN traded for 1.09 on Friday.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2009, 12:40:56 AM »

So, umnnn WTF

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'SOMETHING STRANGE HAPPENING'

Jabbour said the rise in infections in children without similar cases among adults had triggered questions as to whether adults were being infected with the virus but not falling ill.

"There is something strange happening in Egypt. Why in children now and not in adults?" he said. "We need to see if there are sub clinical cases in the community."

This sounds like some serious eugenics minded bio-engineering has been done to this bird flu - can any one else come up with a different plausible theory?


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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2009, 07:07:52 AM »

PART II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da3iU8Iv1w4
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2009, 07:47:53 AM »

From HealthFreedomUsa: Biological False Flag Event on April 29?  Will FEMA Use Exercise to Mask Release of Weaponized Avian Flu?
Biological False Flag Event on April 29?  Will FEMA Use Exercise to Mask Release of Weaponized Avian Flu?

I want what I am about to share with you to be wrong.  I want the intense preparation we are receiving to make a Pandemic seem inevitable, even normal, to be nothing more than officialdom gone idiotic. I want the widespread publicity which our blasts bring to information like this to exert enough push-back to make this horrific event, if it is planned, be cancelled.

But the recent apparent failed attempt through Baxter to create an Avian Flu Pandemic AND a market for its almost-approved Avian Flu vaccine in Europe makes it look very much like the Powers That Be (PTB) are really serious about killing off a whole lot of us while receiving humongus amounts of money for the priviledge of doing so.

Major false flag events like 9/11, the London Bombings and the Madrid Bombing were all accompanied by “Security Training Exercises” which paralleled the real events taking place so closely that response teams, on the ground and in the air, were confused by what was happening and thought it was a spectacularly life-like part of the “Games” as such exercises are often called.

So when we learned that FEMA has scheduled an Avian Flu outbreak exercise on April 29th in Akron OH, we were mildly alerted.  FEMA and other parts of the Homeland [IN]Security aparatus have such training exercises often.

What got us, as General Bert would say, “Up on the step” was the Power Point presentation which First Energy presented to its employees.

FirstEnergy Corporation is, according to its website, http://www.firstenergycorp.com/index.html,  “a diversified electric company headquartered in Akron, Ohio. Its seven electric utility operating companies comprise the nation’s fifth largest investor-owned electric system, serving 4.5 million customers.”

First Energy and the Department of Homeland Security have decided that in the event of a Pandemic, their employees must continue to come to work.  And so they determined that, if the employees and their families would provide the company with medical information, they would be provided with Tamiflu (last year), then Avian Flu vaccine was added this year, according to the report at Jimmyonthespot.com, http://www.jimmyonthespot.com/OH_pandemic.html.  If you ignore the fact that, according to CIDRAP, the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, “more than 98% (321 of 325) of H1N1 isolates tested by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) were resistant to the drug.” (http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/mar0209osel.html) making Tamiflu just about totally useless for H5N1 treatment, and if you ignore the fact the new promised “treatment,”  a vaccine against Avian Flu, is not supposed to be able to exist until the pandemic form of the Avian flu exists, the Power Point presentation still gives us grave concern.

On Slide 3 a Pandemic is defined as

“Highly contagious from person to person
Little or no immunity
More fatal than a seasonal flu
Vaccines unavailable prior to pandemic [Emphasis added - REL]“

Bear with me here.  You will soon see why we are so concerned that this might be a set up for a false flag biological assault.

Slide 5 asks “Why does First Energy need a health emergency plan?” and answers its own question this way:

“Energy is identified as Critical Infrastructure
      U.S. Department of Homeland Security
 Requires a different approach than other work continuation plans
      Loss of employees vs. loss of facilities
      Nationwide impact - mutual assistance unavailable
Need plan to mitigate impact on the health of our  workforce
Ensure continuity of essential business services
     Operational resiliency
Significant potential impact to FirstEnergy
      Financial losses: profitability, capital, etc.

On Slide 11 “Preventive Strategies”, employees are told,

“Guidelines for Tamiflu use
Preventive - take medication before onset of symptoms
Treatment - take medication at the earliest onset of symptoms

Slide 12 asks “Why Don’t We Have a Flu Shot for the Avia Flu?” and says,

“Avian Flu Vaccine
      Specific avian vaccine currently not available
      Development, production, and distribution takes 6-9 months after identification of   strain
       Development and delivery of vaccine is not a feasible solution due to lag time”

But the real killer may be on Slides 14 and 15.

Slide 14 notes under “Medication Distribution” that
“Tamiflu medication supply is stored at a secure location
Distribution will be completed at an appropriate time prior to pandemic onset” [Emphasis added - Dr. Rima]

and on Slide 15, which says, in a small box, “Tamiflu medication will be provided for active workforce and households at selected time prior to pandemic onset.” [Emphasis added - Dr. Rima].

So here is the question: whether you are talking about Tamiflu (a failed antiviral drug which Donald Rumsfeld, 1/4 owner of its Patent rights managed to bamboozle the US into stockpiling billions of dollars worth) or a Pandemic Avian Flu vaccine which may be weaponized, how would First Energy, the fifth largest energy producer in the US, know when to give its employees and their families the preventive substance BEFORE THE PANDEMIC STARTS?

Is this the next round in the continuing saga of the Pandemic That Would Not Be? Last year, the Wellcome Trust gave grants to scientists because they did not understand why the Pandemic Flu was not producing a pandemic.  David Nabarro, UN Pandemic Czar, has been warning, and marshaling resources, and frightening the world’s gullible like a mean uncle scaring the kids at bedtime.

Baxter could NOT, by any reasonable standard, be likely to contaminate seasonal flu with deadly, infective, human strain Avian Flu by accident.  No heads are rolling, no criminal charges of conspiracy to commit mass murder are under consideration, as far as we know.  No executive bonuses have been reduced or cancelled, to our knowledge.

The Pandemic continues to elude the weaponizers, elude the genocidalists, but, give them credit, they do keep trying.

So perhaps it is just coincidence that the hometown of the nation’s 5th largest energy producer is the site of  FEMA classes which are being held locally with “a training exercise to follow” FEMA courses ICS 100 and ICS 700, both of which are linked into the medical training area of the FEMA site. And perhaps it is just routine training practice to ask for “200  ‘victims’ for the April 29th exercise. www.Jimmyonthespot.com notes “History has shown that exercises can turn into the real event, as recalled on 9/11, the London bombing, and the Madrid train bombing (to cite a few).  Each time the mainstream media is “amazed”

that the emergency response teams were in those areas, running exercises for the exact event that was occurring.”

So let us devoutly hope that this set of occurances is merely a coincidence, or, if not, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people will forward this Health Freedom Alert to millions more will give the people planning such an “exercise” pause and they will slink back into the slime in which they belong.  There is, in fact, good reason to think that something very like that changed the deadly dynamic and a biological false flag attack was forestalled in September of 2008.

We may never know for sure but please, God, please keep us protected enough to be wrong forever on this kind of genocidal event.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2009, 08:16:39 AM »

Well, all I can say is our government is clearly gearing up for something.

The cable cutting that led to the Internet outage in San Francisco Friday is clearly a test.  Just like they had powerdowns at the WTC before 9/11.  When this goes down, I would expect an Internet outage to be the start of it.  The exchange of information would have to be curbed.  Hence,all the talk of Internet 2.

The mass graves, the FEMA trains, that YouTube clip of that lady on the Power Hour, speaking of how things are being transported mysteriously....it has to be the bird flu virus, or virus-slash-vaccine.  It's no longer a matter of if, but when.

I'm no expert...I just know the math.  If what Alex says is true that this kills off 80 percent of the population, that means if you live with just one other person...a wife/husband, a roomate, a child, what have you...it means the odds of you both surviving is just 4 percent.  (1/5 times 1/5 is 1/25= 4%).  That means there's a 96% chance one of the two dies, and 64% that both perish.  Think about that.  If you survive, someone you know or love likely won't.
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Some things to consider:  http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/
 a first wave of influenza appeared early in the spring of 1918 in Kansas and in military camps throughout the US. Few noticed the epidemic in the midst of the war. Wilson had just given his 14 point address. There was virtually no response or acknowledgment to the epidemics in March and April in the military camps. It was unfortunate that no steps were taken to prepare for the usual recrudescence of the virulent influenza strain in the winter. The lack of action was later criticized when the epidemic could not be ignored in the winter of 1918 (BMJ, 1918). These first epidemics at training camps were a sign of what was coming in greater magnitude in the fall and winter of 1918 to the entire world.

Invasion of Iraq ended in "shock and awe" May 1, 2003 (Pagan holiday of feasting)

My prediction, if they do launch it, will start the beginning of may in military camps that have been vaccinated.  Normal people won't hear anything about it until Winter, where it will be too hard not to notice.
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Alex is talking about this right now.
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Alex is talking about this right now.

He's debunking it as total crap.
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2009, 01:01:07 PM »

Thanks for removing my posts.  That was really helpful of you.   Angry

they were not removed, they were split off as a new thread in the bird flu room, check it out.
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2009, 01:16:19 PM »

OK, looks like AJ has exposed this as a psyops method to categorize anyone who attempts to warn the public about government bird flu as a paranoid schizophrenic.

This plays in nicely with all of the DHS/Infragard documents saying that gunowners and constitutionalists are paranoid and crazy.

So this is how they do it...

Release the Internet Hype tapes...

Debunk them on something like Glenn Beck...

Then use the already established protocol about paranoid sovereinty lovers being paranoid about strawmen.

But...

We have all of the verifiable and actual documents concerning the impending bird flu attack..
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=99072.0

And here is the room about the impending bird flu attack...
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=348.0

That room's threads include actual documents from the actual companies and government organizations concerning this false flag planning.
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2009, 01:19:15 PM »

Well people come off as raving lunatics when you run up to you out of breath all bugged eyed saying "THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO RELEASE BIRD FLU AND KILL US ALL!"

Only sounds good to people in the know -- documents > raving and ranting.

I believe the people who makes the hype videos have good intentions -- they are just horrible at the execution.
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2009, 01:28:41 PM »

I couldn't hear it. What was the evidence against this?
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2009, 01:43:05 PM »

Something is not jiving here.

First you have confirmation from mutiple sources witnessing the train line outside of New York that is apparently about 30 miles long, while you have these buildings right where the women is saying they are.  The rest is fragmentary.  However this would be the perfect and psyop to discredit investigators.  Same with the UFO's the common thread  is always the same:

  - Maintain a dialectic of belief / disbelief in the public the division prevents any consensus from forming.

So you put out all kinds of grainy UFO dot videos, with all kinds of dummies going 'See! See! UFO's and grey headed aliens exist!"

It is the same with what is happening here. It fully works to their advantage in the confusion.

However what is interesting is I would totally agree and expect the possibility of this being a psyop to discredit the investigative movement.  However what I did not expect is for so much of it to actually check out.  Finally if Alex is going to declare this a psyop, then the burden of proof needs to be there as well that it is a psyop.  However that is the beauty of the whole thing, the more legitimate we are the less discreditable we become.  Sure the truth community knows all *kinds* of super crazy stuff, but it's pointless to drag the public into it.

Which is really encouraging because then it fully tells us we are onto something very legitimate if they have to start their discreditational psyops.  

This is the intelligence dance.  However they have dropped the ball too many times, people are hurdling right past the disinformation onto the important and what matters stuff.  So keep researching!  Don't worry about the stereotyping - we are in a race for our very lives and those of our loved ones.  Maybe our loved ones cannot psychologically bear this struggle - it is ours to carry that they might have that freedom to live in the ignorance of the fight that went on all around them without their knowledge.

However when you have Bayer Pharmaceutical getting caught shipping weaponized Avian Flu to 22 countries, how in your face does this have to get?

And we have these guys running all around literally filming mass lines of these train cars - that for all we know could just be for shipping TV's.  But I would ask anyone in this forum - why are the cars slotted (allowing air and rain to get inside of them?)  That means IMHO they are definitely for hauling living animals or people of some form.  If they were for hauling TV's and cardboard boxes they would be much more sealed.

Remember the German Army used bull horns to blast the peaceful countries they invaded with the message "This is not an attack!" while they invaded...

This is so f**cked!

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Something is not jiving here.

First you have confirmation from mutiple sources witnessing the train line outside of New York that is apparently about 30 miles long, while you have these buildings right where the women is saying they are.  The rest is fragmentary.  However this would be the perfect and psyop to discredit investigators.  Same with the UFO's the common thread  is always the same:

  - Maintain a dialectic of belief / disbelief in the public the division prevents any consensus from forming.

So you put out all kinds of grainy UFO dot videos, with all kinds of dummies going 'See! See! UFO's and grey headed aliens exist!"

It is the same with what is happening here. It fully works to their advantage in the confusion.

However what is interesting is I would totally agree and expect the possibility of this being a psyop to discredit the investigative movement.  However what I did not expect is for so much of it to actually check out.  Finally if Alex is going to declare this a psyop, then the burden of proof needs to be there as well that it is a psyop.  However that is the beauty of the whole thing, the more legitimate we are the less discreditable we become.  Sure the truth community knows all *kinds* of super crazy stuff, but it's pointless to drag the public into it.

Which is really encouraging because then it fully tells us we are onto something very legitimate if they have to start their discreditational psyops.  

This is the intelligence dance.  However they have dropped the ball too many times, people are hurdling right past the disinformation onto the important and what matters stuff.  So keep researching!  Don't worry about the stereotyping - we are in a race for our very lives and those of our loved ones.  Maybe our loved ones cannot psychologically bear this struggle - it is ours to carry that they might have that freedom to live in the ignorance of the fight that went on all around them without their knowledge.

However when you have Bayer Pharmaceutical getting caught shipping weaponized Avian Flu to 22 countries, how in your face does this have to get?

And we have these guys running all around literally filming mass lines of these train cars - that for all we know could just be for shipping TV's.  But I would ask anyone in this forum - why are the cars slotted (allowing air and rain to get inside of them?)  That means IMHO they are definitely for hauling living animals or people of some form.  If they were for hauling TV's and cardboard boxes they would be much more sealed.

Remember the German Army used bull horns to blast the peaceful countries they invaded with the message "This is not an attack!" while they invaded...

This is so f**cked!



This all actually makes a lot of sense if you see who is the number one distributor of this video:

Here are the owners of this site that was most instrumental in pushing the video:

Board of Trustee Members:

President: General Albert Stubblebine (U.S. Army Retired)

Medical Director: Rima E. Laibow, MD

Ralph Fucetola, JD, VP-Legal

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STUBBLEBINE IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL PSYOPS DISINFORMATION ARTIST AND PROPOGANDIST IN US MILITARY HISTORY

Here is just one of his wonderful projects: http://truthaboutall.blogspot.com/2009/02/sound-of-silence-antithesis-of-freedom.html


Major General Albert (Bert) Stubblebine, was the Commanding General of the U.S. Army’s INTELLIGENCE SCHOOL AND CENTER, as well as the Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM) as well as the Army’s Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM).

In short, Albert Stubblebine was the Army’s liaison with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Naval Intelligence operatives (ONI)..... He was the U.S. Army’s top spy-boss, and of course, was privy to all its secrets. Now 'retired' from active duty following a 32 year career, General Stubblebine has combined with his wife, Rima Laibow to form something called the Natural Solutions Foundation, supposedly dedicated to fighting all HEALTH FREEDOM THREATS to individuals including Codex Alimentarias, Vaccinations, and of course the FDA Gestapo. On their website, www.healthfreedomusa.org one can read this about Albert N. Stubblebine:

“Many of the innovations he developed helped the U.S. to conduct the First Gulf War effectively and swiftly with a very low casualty rate.”




Actionable Disinformation Re: Rima Laibow,Albert Stubblebine,& Sounds of Silence
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=97947.0

Are Gen. Stubblebine/Rima Laibow Disinfo Specialists?
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=73408.0

General Stubblebine conducting more psyops with Internet Bird Flu paranoia?
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=98931.0

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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2009, 02:05:32 PM »

Wait, isn't Stubblebine the guy Alex always has on? He is disinfo?
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2009, 02:12:22 PM »

Wait, isn't Stubblebine the guy Alex always has on? He is disinfo?

I do not think he "always" has him on and many members here have already pointed out that the good general is highly suspect.  Remember that he was the first "no planer" government official (just for the pentagon, not the towers).  If you would like to see the good general in all his glory, check out this documentary:

Stubblebine is an enigma to be sure.  Perhaps his dreams and visions have been perversed by NWO and he is now trying to come forward.  Who knows.  I found the following videos informative as to the psyche of this master spook (he is a little out there to say the least):

Crazy Rulers of the World- 3 Hours

www.mininova.org/tor/224715

And now the book that started the documentary is going to be made into a movie staring George Clooney:

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George Clooney in Men Who Stare At Goats movie
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/16/george-clooney-in-me.html
Posted by David Pescovitz, May 16, 2008 10:12 PM | permalink

The Men Who Stare At Goats is a must-read 2005 book by UK journalist Jon Ronson about the US government's interest in very strange stuff, like Jedi powers, psychic spying, subliminal sound weapons, and the potential to kill something (like a goat, or an enemy soldier) just by looking at it. Fact or fiction, or most likely some of both, it's an absolute blast to read. (And Ronson's BBC Channel 4 documentary based on the book, Crazy Rulers of the World, is a lot of fun too! You can find it here on Google Video.) Yesterday, it was announced that Grant Heslov will direct a feature film based on The Men Who Stare At Goats. The star? George Clooney. From

Variety:
Script was penned by Brit Peter Straughan ("How to Lose Friends and Alienate People"). The project has been around for some time, but international buyers only just received the script this week as the Cannes fest and market got started. Script topped the 2007 Brit List of best unproduced screenplays.
Link to Variety, Link to buy Men Who Stare At Goats

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Also here are some comments about Stubblebine from jimd3100 ( http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=2822.msg60287#msg60287 ):

1. Gen Stubblebine was head of Army Intelligence he is a spook.
2. Gen Stublebine is in the Army Intelligence hall of fame.
3. Gen Stubblebine sits on the board of several WORLDWIDE DEFENSE contractors.
4. Gen Stubblebine receives money from HOMELAND SECURITY and is part of instituting it's infrastructure.
5. Gen Stubblebine has been involved in mind experiments (mkultra anyone?) involving government intelligence agencies.

Read his current bio on a CANADIAN DEFENSE COMPANY......notice the last sentence of it.."and is one of the two designers of AEGIS, a major Homeland Security private initiative." http://canadiansub.com/Board.html     

"AEGIS: Aegis is a London based, privately owned, British security and risk management company with overseas offices in Afghanistan, Bahrain, Iraq, Kenya, Nepal and the USA. We have substantial experience and a world-wide client-base, including governments, international agencies and the multinational corporate sector. We are a registered and active UN contractor, a major security provider to the US government and security advisor to the Lloyds Joint." http://www.aegisworld.com/

Stubblebine connection to HOMELAND SECURITY:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go1613/is_200307/ai_n9091297
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go1613/is_200311/ai_n6631977

you might find the 5 to 5:30 part of this clip interesting....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3Qpe_7wuA
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Like I said, he may have been on the fringe 9/11 truth movement confined to the plane/pentagon stuff and has had enough of the NWO lies so he came forward.  I have no idea.  People like Larry Nichols who used to chop up Vietnamese in the 70's has come forward about Mena/Clinton/Drug Running/Iran/etc. There is little way of knowing, but the video about the crazy rulers should open people's eyes about what kind of guy we are dealing with here.

He is a master of deception and was one of the first designers of the "perfect soldier."

I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

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He is on the Usual Suspects List: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=337.0
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2009, 02:14:53 PM »

Wait, isn't Stubblebine the guy Alex always has on? He is disinfo?

He is Rima Laibow's hubby, the Codex Alimentarius whistleblower
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2009, 02:36:37 PM »

I do not think he "always" has him on and many members here have already pointed out that the good general is highly suspect.  Remember that he was the first "no planer" government official (just for the pentagon, not the towers).  If you would like to see the good general in all his glory, check out this documentary:

Stubblebine is an enigma to be sure.  Perhaps his dreams and visions have been perversed by NWO and he is now trying to come forward.  Who knows.  I found the following videos informative as to the psyche of this master spook (he is a little out there to say the least):

Crazy Rulers of the World- 3 Hours

www.mininova.org/tor/224715

And now the book that started the documentary is going to be made into a movie staring George Clooney:

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George Clooney in Men Who Stare At Goats movie
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/16/george-clooney-in-me.html
Posted by David Pescovitz, May 16, 2008 10:12 PM | permalink

The Men Who Stare At Goats is a must-read 2005 book by UK journalist Jon Ronson about the US government's interest in very strange stuff, like Jedi powers, psychic spying, subliminal sound weapons, and the potential to kill something (like a goat, or an enemy soldier) just by looking at it. Fact or fiction, or most likely some of both, it's an absolute blast to read. (And Ronson's BBC Channel 4 documentary based on the book, Crazy Rulers of the World, is a lot of fun too! You can find it here on Google Video.) Yesterday, it was announced that Grant Heslov will direct a feature film based on The Men Who Stare At Goats. The star? George Clooney. From

Variety:
Script was penned by Brit Peter Straughan ("How to Lose Friends and Alienate People"). The project has been around for some time, but international buyers only just received the script this week as the Cannes fest and market got started. Script topped the 2007 Brit List of best unproduced screenplays.
Link to Variety, Link to buy Men Who Stare At Goats

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Also here are some comments about Stubblebine from jimd3100 ( http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=2822.msg60287#msg60287 ):

1. Gen Stubblebine was head of Army Intelligence he is a spook.
2. Gen Stublebine is in the Army Intelligence hall of fame.
3. Gen Stubblebine sits on the board of several WORLDWIDE DEFENSE contractors.
4. Gen Stubblebine receives money from HOMELAND SECURITY and is part of instituting it's infrastructure.
5. Gen Stubblebine has been involved in mind experiments (mkultra anyone?) involving government intelligence agencies.

Read his current bio on a CANADIAN DEFENSE COMPANY......notice the last sentence of it.."and is one of the two designers of AEGIS, a major Homeland Security private initiative." http://canadiansub.com/Board.html     

"AEGIS: Aegis is a London based, privately owned, British security and risk management company with overseas offices in Afghanistan, Bahrain, Iraq, Kenya, Nepal and the USA. We have substantial experience and a world-wide client-base, including governments, international agencies and the multinational corporate sector. We are a registered and active UN contractor, a major security provider to the US government and security advisor to the Lloyds Joint." http://www.aegisworld.com/

Stubblebine connection to HOMELAND SECURITY:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go1613/is_200307/ai_n9091297
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go1613/is_200311/ai_n6631977

you might find the 5 to 5:30 part of this clip interesting....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3Qpe_7wuA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Like I said, he may have been on the fringe 9/11 truth movement confined to the plane/pentagon stuff and has had enough of the NWO lies so he came forward.  I have no idea.  People like Larry Nichols who used to chop up Vietnamese in the 70's has come forward about Mena/Clinton/Drug Running/Iran/etc. There is little way of knowing, but the video about the crazy rulers should open people's eyes about what kind of guy we are dealing with here.

He is a master of deception and was one of the first designers of the "perfect soldier."

I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

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More: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=73408.0

He is on the Usual Suspects List: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=337.0

Army Intelligence pushing no-planes... case closed I'd say. Interesting to hear it's his wife that's pushing the Codex Alimentarius stuff. I've heard about that, watched her presentation, but it just never convinced me. Why? There was no way to trace back her claims.
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2009, 02:39:42 PM »

Army Intelligence pushing no-planes... case closed I'd say. Interesting to hear it's his wife that's pushing the Codex Alimentarius stuff. I've heard about that, watched her presentation, but it just never convinced me. Why? There was no way to trace back her claims.

She isn't pushing it, she's exposing it and organizing opposition
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So is this a real threat or not?
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Army Intelligence pushing no-planes... case closed I'd say. Interesting to hear it's his wife that's pushing the Codex Alimentarius stuff. I've heard about that, watched her presentation, but it just never convinced me. Why? There was no way to trace back her claims.

No planes at the Pentagon does not equal no planes in New York. Laibow doesn't push Codex Alimentarius, she is against it.
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2009, 02:55:25 PM »

So is this a real threat or not?

this is psyops meant to make us all look like paranoid nut cases.

go to the verified government documents, it is much scarier than the video anyway. The difference is that the claims can be backed up with truth.
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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2009, 05:40:26 PM »

this is psyops meant to make us all look like paranoid nut cases.

go to the verified government documents, it is much scarier than the video anyway. The difference is that the claims can be backed up with truth.

Agreed, kinda pissed at myself for being so easily duped by this.

However, I am very glad that Alex debunked this....
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she used NLP during her "codex alimentarius" talk right from the get-go
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: that was her first sentence

I believe some of what dr. Laibow says, but I think her husband's an op so I just ignore what he says
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« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2009, 12:43:41 AM »

http://chaoticfate.blogspot.com/

its the second video on the main page
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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2009, 12:45:53 AM »

Sounds bad... is it?

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yeah i would say so.. but after you see that video make sure and watch the first one
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« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2009, 12:51:46 AM »

It's disinfo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKDUuzVUm00
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« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2009, 12:56:53 AM »

well thanks... i just came across it
what do you all think of the solution video?
i think it is VERY well done

http://chaoticfate.blogspot.com/
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