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ARI FLEISCHER
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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 12:47:15 PM »
oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 12:47:53 PM »
actually it is called Bush administration response to 9/11 AND THE CONSTITUTION!
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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 12:48:25 PM »
may the BS flow

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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 12:48:44 PM »
Andrew Card is explaining the 6 minutes of inactivity while reading "My Pet Goat"
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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11 AND CONSTITUTION
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 12:50:40 PM »
somebody record this.  Andrew Card has now changed the official story for the 20th time saying that people were saying "did anyone hear about a plane crash in NYC"  This is before they even left to the school.

oh man the bullshit is just pouring out.

GET A SHOVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11 AND CONSTITUTION
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2009, 12:53:35 PM »
card is a great actor

his body language is totally f'ed

laughing and joking.. 9/11 is a laughing matter isn't it mr. card

edit; just started recording this.. missed first few minutes though

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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11 AND CONSTITUTION
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2009, 12:54:56 PM »
is this a propaganda piece?

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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11 AND CONSTITUTION
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2009, 12:56:47 PM »
is this a propaganda piece?

Pretty much

Fleischer talking about handing bush cue-cards was interesting.. don't say anything until we have our story straight

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Re: LIVE: CSPAN - BUSH RESPONSE TO 9/11 AND CONSTITUTION
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2009, 01:00:31 PM »
the woman host is all giggly and smiles?

good find all the same.  :)

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Here are the questions that we want answered:
9/11: All In One Chunk
9/11 Basic Questions + WRH 9/11 Index + Questions for Michael Moore
Michael Rivero, What Really Happened
www.uruknet.info?p=47147
www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/9-11BasicQuestions.html
click on above links for a table of links to key 9-11 articles on WhatReallyHappened.com
September 10, 2008


9/11 - The Basic Questions
1. Why didn't jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks?
2. Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial airlines, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001?
3. Why did FEMA lie about their presence in New York on 9/11?
4. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom?
5. Why did George H.W. Bush meet bin Laden's brother on 9/11?
6. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights all use the term boxcutters?
7. Where are the flight recorders?
8. Why were the FISA warrants discontinued?
9. How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera?
10 Why was security meeting scheduled for 9/11 cancelled by WTC management on 9/10?
11. How did they come up with the "culprits" so quickly?
12. How did they find the terrorist's cars at the airports so quickly?
13. Why did Shrub dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force?
14. Why the strange pattern of debris from Flight 93?
15. How extensive was the relationship between the Taliban, the ISI and the CIA?
16. What exactly was the role of Henry Kissinger at UNOCAL?
17. When was it decided to cancel building a pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan?
18. Why did the FBI in 1996 close the files to investigate Osama bin Laden's relatives in Washington?
19. Why did .Bush stop inquiries into terrorist connections of the Bin Laden family in early 2001?
20. Who made the decision to have John O'Neill stop investigating Al-qeada accounts?
21. Who gave the decision to give him a security job at the World Trade Center?
22. Did John O'Neill meet anyone of the FEMA in the night of September 10th?
23. What about media reports that hijackers bought tickets for flights scheduled after Sept. 11?
24. Why did none of the 19 hijackers appear on the passenger lists?
25. Why would devout Muslims frequent bars, drink alcoholic beverages and leave their bibles?
26. Why would the hijackers use credit cards and allow drivers licenses with photos to be zeroxed?
27. Why did the hijackers force passengers to call relatives?
28. How did the hijackers change the flight plan without law enforcement or the military try to stop them?
29. How did a hijackers passport miraculously appear near the WTC? Who found it and what time?
30. How could the FBI distinguish between "regular" Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights?
31. Why was there not one "innocent" Muslim on board any of these flights?
32. Did someone go through the passenger lists looking for Muslim names and label them as hijackers?
MOHAMMED ATTA
33. Did the Florida police provide information that Atta was searched because of 1) an expired Visa, 2) driving a car without a license, 3) because of an incident at Miami Airport?
34. Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and the employees didn't put it on board?
35. Who found his bag? How can we be sure it it was his bag?
36. Why did Atta place a video "how to fly planes", a uniform and his last will into his bag, knowing that he would commit suicide?
37. Why did Atta leave his drivers license in a rental car?
38. When did Atta train on a flight simulator?
39. Did Atta leave the US while in training and then return?
40. Why did Atta decide to study at Opa Locka, a famous hub of 6 Navy training bases and includes government partners like U.S. Coast Guard Air Station, Police (Miami-Dade) Aviation Unit?
41. Why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa?
THE BLACK BOXES AND CRASH VIDEO
42. Why were the Black Boxes never recovered ?
43. Why didn't the FBI release the air traffic controller's protocols?
44. Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info?
THE HIJACKERS
45. How did the FBI receive a tip from a passenger who boarded a different plane and reached his destination safely that he had a confrontation with two ME men at the Logan airport in Boston?
46. Who tipped the FBI to storm the Westin Hotel in Boston on September 12th?
47. Where did the photos of all 19 hijackers come from?
48. How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack?     
49. Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list 2 days after the hijacker list was released?
50. Why do none of the names appear on the passenger lists UA and AA gave to CNN?
51. How could the hijackers disable the defense systems?
52. Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden's family, who left the United States without further investigation?
53. What about the supposed hijackers who are still alive?
54. Was there a reason to change the list of the original 19 hijackers?
55. What happened to Ayu Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath, who have been in jail since September 2001, because of possession of box cutters on a train? Who gave the tip to arrest them?
56. Why did it take 4 months before Ramsi Binalschibhs name was mentioned, since he was a good friend of Mohammad Atta and lived in his apartment in Hamburg?
57. Why did it take 4 months until December 11 to charge Zacarias Moussaoui for the 9/11 attacks when his case was known worldwide for months, but not mentioned in the American media?
58. Whatever happened with Lotfi Raissi, who was arrested in UK for teaching the terrorist pilots?
59. What is the current status of the investigation of Mamoun Darkazanli Import-Export-Company in Hamburg and Al Taqwa Management Organisation in Lugano?
60. Why was Richard Reid able to enter the Paris airport twice and who paid for his hotel?
61. Who hired Zacarias Massoui to learn how to fly passenger jets in the United States?
62. Why did the FBI or CIA fail to interrogate him between August and December 2001?
BIN LADEN
63. Did the CIA monitor Bin Laden in 1998 with the help of 15 Afghan agents, paid $1,000/ month?
64. Where are these agents? Was Johnny "Mike" Spann one? Was John Walker Lindh one?
65. Is an Afghan agent a member of the ISI? Is an Afghan agent working for Bin Laden?
66. When was the first time Tenet mentioned the Al-Qaeda group to any member of the Senate?
67. Why did the Pentagon release a new video version or translation of the Bin Laden Home video?
68. Why it was released only 8 hours after translation by the German magazine MONITOR on December ?
69. Why were the four translators prior US-Government workers?
70. When was the Bin Laden Home Video found and who found it?
71. Who found the video if Northern Alliance and US troops had not yet arrived in Kandahar or Jahalabad?
72. Does the timestamp on the Bin Laden video indicate that it was found two weeks after it was produced?
73. Why was the public not informed who found the video and when?
74. Why according to MONITOR magazine, were the most controversial statements translated incorrectly?
75. Why was the video released?
76. Who gave the final decision to release it?
77. Why is the Bin Laden video of June 2001 in which he praised the attack, available on the Internet?
78. What about Bin Laden's statements on Al-Jazeera in June 2001 about the bombing of USS Cole, which are similar to the statements on the November 2001 home video?
79. Why did Bin Laden state in Umman Magazine in Sept. 2001, that he was not involved in the WTC?
80. Is Bin Laden still on the payroll of the CIA or ISI?
81. Did the Bin Laden Group Inc. help build ToraBora with the CIA?
82. What was the purpose of the meeting with General Pervez Musharraf in May 2001?
83. Why was a statement released that Al-Khalifa bin Laden, who is not the mother of Bin Laden, had a telephone call with Bin Laden on September 9, rather than Alia Ghanem, his mother? Why did Alia Ghanem say she did not believe he planned the attack?
ANTHRAX AND MICROBIOLOGIST DEATHS
100. What happened on September 18th, when an employee of Batelle Memorial Institute was involved in a so-called anthrax hoax on that day? Was he arrested?
101. Why did the investigation of that case begin in December 2001?
102. What was in the memo of Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a public health consumer advocat and author of "Death in the Air" on October 1, 2001, almost two weeks before the first anthrax letter was sent from Trenton to the American media building in Boca Raton?
103.What about his letter of Nov. 13 in which he claimed that BAYER is behind the anthrax infections?
104. Did US BioDefense laboratories send the anthrax-laced letters to get a new budget for research?
105. What about the statement of former UN-weapons inspector of Iraq, Richard Spertzel, who told ABC, "...he knows only five scientists in the USA who would be in the situation to produce such a fine, highly developed spore material"?
106. Why did it take 48 hours to inform Bob Stevens that he had anthrax?
107. Why were envelopes never found near Bob Stevens, Amelie Lundgren and Mia Nguyen?
108. How come Microsoft got a hoax anthrax letter from Malaysia on the same day that President Bush said Malaysia might be one of the next targets of the United States?
109. Why did the FBI never investigate the case Don Wiley, a Bioscientist who disappeared 11/13/01?
110. Why did the FBI begin to investigate after his body was found on December 22, 300 miles away? Was there an investigation at the military hydro plant where workers found him? Why did the media write different versions about how, when and where he was found? Why did the police report change 2 months later from suicide to an accident?
111. What was the goal of Bioport in 1997?
112.Did development of anti-anthrax vaccines begin in 1998?
113.When did Bioport decide to produce anthrax vaccines?
114. Was it before or after Sept. 1998 that Admiral Crowe was put in charge of investigations of the August 7, 1998 bombings of Embassy Nairobi and Embassy Dar Es Salaam?
115. Did the schedule for developing anti-anthrax vaccines begin starting in 1998?
116. When did the US Government ask Bayer for help in developing a vaccine?
117. When did Bayer start sending the vaccines to the U.S.?
118. When did Bayer double production of the vaccines?
119. Was the death of Vladimi Pasechnik investigated? He was former director of the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations of the Soviet bio-warfare establishment Biopreparat in November 2001?
120. How are the deaths of scentists Robert M. Schwartz, Dr. Benito Que and Set Van Nguyen explained since all occurred in the same month? Is Set van Nguyen related to the anthrax victim Mia Nguyen?
121. What about the death of Nancy Sonnenfeld (FEMA-Wife)?
122. Why was the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife examining Anthrax in August 2000?
123. Do any employees in Trenton have the same handwriting as printed on the Anthrax envelopes?
124. Is it just a coincidence that the laboratory is also based in Trenton?
125. Did the FBI ever ask Fort Detrick to examine anthrax spores?
126. What about the list of 15-20 labs (maintained by Barbara Rosenzweig) who used Fort Detrick spores?
127. Does the CIA have spores different from those at Fort Detrick?
128. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretl (i.e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force?
129. Why did he decide on October 25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis's smallpox vaccine?
130. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki , Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picke up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?
131. Did Walter Gilbert, Director Myriad Genetics ever get official permission from relatives of those killed at WTC to examine their DNA?
FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES
150. Why did General Mahmud Ahmad, former head of the ISI quit his position?
151. Why did retaliation against the Taliban begin the day he stepped down?
152. Who in the ISI paid $100.000 to Mohammad Atta?
153. Why does Ahmad think that another secret service was involved in theWTC attack? Which Secret Service was he referring to? Did other ISI official's believe that? Did officials of the CIA believe that? Did some officials of the Mossad believe that?
154. What was the purpose of Ahmad's visit to Washington on 9/11?
155. Who told Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov to abort an air strike against Afghanistan in May 2000?
156. Did Russian intelligence notify the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions, as reported in the Russian press?
KISSINGER
1. What did Kissinger mean that an "outside threat from beyond", a "worl government" and "individual rights" who are "willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted", what you mentioned in 1991 on a Bilderberg Conference?
2. What was his role at UNOCAL?
3. What did he discuss at the Bilderberg meeting last year in May 2001?
4. What was the purpose of his meeting with Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov in July 2001?
5. Why does he write in "Toward a New Diplomacy for the 21st Century" that America doesn't need a Foreign Policy?
6. When was the last time Henry Kissinger met US-Ambassador in Pakistan, Robert Oakley?
THE PURCHASE OF AIRLINE PUT OPTIONS
1. Is it true that the CIA is in possession of PROMIS software?
2. What is the purpose of PROMIS?
3. Did A.B. "Buzy" Krongard, CIA, own any stocks of United Airlines, American Airlines, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re.?
4. What is his connection to Alex Brown, Deutsche Bank?
5. Did he give any insider information about to George Tenet, CIA?
6. Who was the investor who purchased 2,000 UAL put options between August and September 11, 2001?
7. Did Deutsche Bank-Alex Brown own any stocks of UA, AA, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re?
8. What about te 2,500 UA-contracts which were "split into 500 chunks each, directing each order to different U.S. exchanges around the country simultaneously." on August 10, 2001?
9. Did Deutsche purchase UAL options in August 2001?
10. Why did DB-AB purchase 4,744 put options on United Air Lines stock as opposed to only 396 call s on September 6-7? What was the purpose of doing that?
11. What is the connection to Wally Kromgaard?
12. Did Deutsche Bank or Wally Kromgaard purchase 4,516 put options on American Airlines as compared to 748 call options on September 10?
13. What was the reason of Mayo Shattuck III re-asssignment on September 15th?
THE TALIBAN AND THE CARPET OF GOLD..
1. When was the last time they met any representatives of the US-Government?
2. What was the purpose of these meetings?
3. Did the Taliban know Karl E. Inderfurth and State Department counterterrorism chief Michael Sheehan?
4. Do they know which US-Representative said in February 2001: "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs"?
5. When was the last time the Taliban was in touch with this representative?
6. Did Abdul Haq, the former Mujahedin leader executed Sept 2001 by the Taliban, decide in Winter 2000 to attack the Taliban?
7. Did production of opium in Afghanistan fall from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 tonnes in 2001?
GLOBAL HAWK TECHNOLOGY
1. Was Global Hawk technology able to remotelycontrol unmanned planes in 1999 for 27 hours?
2. Did Northrop-Grumman use Global Hawk technology in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001?
3. What is the purpose of unmanned technology?
4. Is Northrup in contact with any engineers of Boeing?
5. Did Northrup install Global Hawk technology in a commercial airplane?
CARRIER AND TROOP MOVEMENTS BEFORE SEPT 11
1. Did two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast before 9/11?
2. Did 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation 'Bright Star' on 9/11? What was the purpose of both of these operations?
BIOCHEMICAL WARFARE
1. When did Tommy Franks learn that he would use Thermobarics in ToraBora?
2. Does he know if it had been tested on December 12 in Nevada?
3. Who told Franks that Bin Laden might hide in ToraBora?
4. Is the main purpose of Thermobarics to destroy buried bio and chemical stocks?
5. When was the first time Franks used Thermobarics? Was it before or after the announcement of the end of ABM Treaty on December 11?
6. When did the US decide to use B61-11, the "nuclear version" of its "conventional" BLU-113 counterpart?
7. Why has the NSA destroyed data collected on Americans or US companies since the Sept. 11 attacks?
ABORTED ATTEMPTS TO GET BIN-LADEN
1. Why did Clinton abort an attack on Bin Laden in October 1999?
2. Who was responsible for that operation?
3. Why was the operation put on hold?
4. Why did Musharraf halt a covert operation to attack Bin Laden in October 1999?
5. Why did the GOP in Congress stop almost everymove Clinton made against terrorism? They refused to believe reports and pass necessary legislation. In 1996 Clinton proposed a very extensive anti-terrorism regulation.
RICHARD REID
1. Who hired Richard Reid to threaten a passenger plane in Paris?
2. Who did he send an email to in Pakistan?
3. Has he ever been in touch with the ISI or CIA?
4. Did he know the difference between an explosive and a detonator?
5. How many ounces did he have in his shoes?
6. What size are his shoes?
7. Who build or prepared his shoes?
JOHN WALKER LINDH
1. Has John Walker Lindh ever been in touch with the CIA?
2. Did he ever work for the CIA?
3. Who arrested him in 2001?
4. Why didn't he escape in the tumult to nearby Masar-e-Sharif?
5. Who hired his lawyer, Richard Brohanan? Who paid his lawyer?
6. Why didn't he go to Guantanamo Bay?
DICK CHENEY
1. When did Cheney stop working for Halliburton?
2. Is he still in possession of any Halliburton stock?
3. Is he still in contact with Halliburton?
4. Was Halliburton invited to an oil conference in May 2002?
5. Does Cheney know when that meeting was planned?
6. Did Cheney have influence concerning Halliburton contracts with the Pentagon?
7. What exactly did Cheney decide to do on September 11th?
8. Did he speak with an Air Force Commander or Lt. Gen. Charles F. Wald on that day?
9. When did he inform the president about the hijacked airplanes on September 11?
10. Who called the White House on September 11 at 9:30 AM about a possible threat?
11. Why was no air security at the White House or the Pentagon at 9:30 AM?
12. When and who gave the approval to evacuate the White House at 9:45 AM?
13. What was the urpose of a meeting with Indian opposition leader Sonia Gandhi in June 2001 about a multimillion-dollar debt owed to Enron from a major energy project in Indian Power Plants?
14. When was the last time Cheney spoke with anyone from ENRON?
COLIN POWELL
1. What was the role of Colin Powell?
2. Who decided to give $43 million in aid to the Taliban regime in May 2001?
3. Did he know that production of opium in Afghanistan fell from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 in 2001?
4. What was the purpose of his decision to treat the aliban prisoners as War Prisoners? Is this decision in any way related to media reports 2 days earlier that Powell may have been involved in negotiations with Indian Power Plants?
5. What was the purpose of his short trip to Latin America on September 11?
6. Who decided that he fly to Latin America on that day?
7. Why would someone threaten him in Afghanistan on January 17, 2002 as Newsweek reported?
8. What was the purpose of Powell meeting with India's foreign minister on April 6, 2001?
9. Did Enron or Cheney ask Powell to help collect a $64 million debt on an Indian plant project?
GEORGE H.W. BUSH
1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to South Arabia on behalf of the Carlyle Group?
2. What was the purpose of that meeting?
THOMAS WHITE
1. Is Thomas White still in contact with ENRON?
2. Did his contact at anytime influence his decisions?
3. Does he still own ENRON stocks?
DELMART VREELAND
1. Did Vreeland warn Canadian Intelligence in May 2001 about possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon?
2. Did he place the warning in an envelope while in prison in Toronto, Canada?
3. Where did he get his information?
4. Whom did he give the envelope to?
5. Why was he placed in jail?
SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP.COM
1.Was the domain created on September 11th, 2000?
2. Who paid for that domain?
3. Are they also owners of Iridium Satellites?
4. When did they end contact with relatives of the Bush family?

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It's making me physically ILL to watch these guys try to remember their 'official' stories - and Anne Compton is like a little schoolmarm guiding them along. All while sitting in front of the Annenberg Foundation signs. Training new journalists to work for the NWO.
Excuse me, I need to hurl.
And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

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Hopefully somebody will slip up or incriminate themselves more

chertoff already said that the comms infrastructure between the military and fbi was the central hub of the operation.. something to that effect

this is horrible. it should be called the lie show.

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NORAD intercept and elimination of threat procedures need approval by the POTUS?

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Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Standard Intercept Procedures

 

It is a fact that standard intercept procedures for dealing with these kinds of situations are totally established, in force and online in these United States 365 days a year, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day.

Regarding rules governing IFR requirements, see FAA Order 7400.2E

'Procedures for Handling Airspace Matters,' Effective Date: December 7, 2000
(Includes Change 1, effective July 7, 2001), Chapter 14-1-2. Full text posted at: http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIR/air1401.html#14-1-2FAA

Guide to Basic Flight Information and Air Traffic Control (ATC) Procedures,'
(Includes Change 3, Effective: July 12, 2001) Chapter 5-6-4 "Interception Signals"
Full text posted at: http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap5/aim0506.html#5-6-4

FAA Order 7110.65M 'Air Traffic Control' (Includes Change 3, Effective: July 12, 2001), Chapter 10-2-5 "Emergency Situations" Full text posted at: http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/ATC/Chp10/atc1002.html#10-2-5

FAA Order 7110.65M 'Air Traffic Control' (Includes Change 3, Effective: July 12, 2001), Chapter 10-1-1 "Emergency Determinations" Full text posted at: http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/ATC/Chp10/atc1001.html#10-1-1

FAA Order 7610.4J 'Special Military Operations' (Effective Date: November 3, 1998; Includes: Change 1, effective July 3, 2000; Change 2, effective July 12, 2001), Chapter 4, Section 5, "Air Defense Liaison Officers (ADLO's)" Full text posted at: http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/MIL/Ch4/mil0405.html#Section%205

FAA Order 7610.4J 'Special Military Operations' (Effective Date: November 3, 1998; Includes: Change 1, effective July 3, 2000; Change 2, effective July 12, 2001), Chapter 7, Section 1-2, "Escort of Hijacked Aircraft: Requests for Service" Full text posted at: http://faa.gov/ATpubs/MIL/Ch7/mil0701.html#7-1-2

'Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Instruction 3610.01A,' 1 June 2001, "Aircraft Piracy (Hijacking) and Destruction of Derelict Airborne Objects," 4. Policy (page 1) PDF available at: http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf
The Air National Guard and Air Force air defense units of the United States were prohibited from carrying out their standard intercept procedures as detailed above on the morning of 911; after they had received the alerts from ATC and FAA. Absolutely no executive-level input of any kind is required for standard intercepts to be scrambled.

There wasn't any indication in any alerts received by air defense units that "shoot-downs" may be required as opposed to intercepts -- i.e.; that the planes were definitely under control of "hostile" forces -- because ATC/FAA could not have known that.

When the first alerts were received from Air Traffic Control, all that air defense units were required to do was scramble standard interceptors to make contact with the incommunicado and off-course jets. F-16s and other fighter planes would have overtaken every single hijacked plane on September 11, before they had reached their targets. To view locations of air bases: http://www.StandDown.net/USAFbases.htm

If, at the time of interception, it was determined the aircraft were under hostile control and likely to impact targets, high-level air defense commanders at the Pentagon's National Military Command Center (NMCC) are fully authorized under existing and established regulations and procedures to authorize a shoot-down, in order to protect the United States of America from attack.

Yet air defense units that were ready and able on 911 at at least 35 nearby installations were ordered not to scramble interceptors: they were ordered to stand down from carrying out even the first stage of standard intercept procedures.

These orders came from the executive office of the president as well as from complicit individuals in the aforementioned NMCC.

There is no question that if these interceptors had been scrambled at the time alerts were received, they would have intercepted the hijacked planes before targets were approached in every instance.

And there is no way that the office of the President or the NMCC could have known through any standard means that these incommunicado flights required anything other than standard interceptions, because ATC and FAA alerts did not relay any such information. The alerts simply requested that standard intercept procedures be implemented and that interceptors be scrambled forthwith.

Some disingenuous excuse-makers say things like: "Well, there was no air defense response because the U.S. had no procedures for dealing with such 'attacks,' because the U.S. had never been 'attacked' this way before."

This sheer, complete nonsense: fully established procedures for dealing with intercepts of all kinds, including of hostile aircraft, existed on September 11, as detailed above.

Furthermore: when those first alerts were received from ATC/FAA, there was no mention of any "attack" and no need for "unusual" procedures. There was only a need for standard, first-stage interceptions to be scrambled, and higher authorities prevented that.

Other disingenuous excuse-makers then say: "Well, of course higher authorities stepped in, because they had to see what was going on with the whole situation, as 'America was under attack.' "

America was not "under attack" when those first alerts were received; certainly ATC and FAA had no way of knowing so early in the proceedings that the jets which had broken communications and gone off-course were part of any "attack."

So why did the executive branch and high-level military authorities deliberately order the air defense interceptors to stand down? Nobody could have known that early in the proceedings that 'America was under attack"... or could they have known?

Those who ordered the stand down did know that early in the proceedings that "America was under attack" because they were complicit in the attack, and took all possible steps to ensure that the attack would take place, unimpeded by the air defense of the United States.

True patriots in this land who have sworn to protect and defend our Republic must consider these irrefutable facts and set about unswerevingly to bring these complicit individuals to justice.

As I may have told you long ago, I am a tyro at questioning the state. and such a task is not my principal activity. I am a small, specialty manufacturer who has gotten caught up in being disgusted by my government's lies and that has caused me to look at certain events more closely than those who are thought to be responsible for that scrutiny.

As you know by now, I have also been outraged by the monstrous lies that the government has foisted on the public, with the cooperation of the press, concerning the failure of the us military to interdict and prevent the murderously damaging conclusion of 3 or 4 commercial airliners on 911.

Just by searching The New York Times archives, I found the policy and the methodology for intercepting a runaway Lear 35 [Payne Stewart's charter]. The story clearly establishes that F-16's were scrambled to intercept this bizjet within 25 minutes of its failure to report to controllers upon its reaching its cleared altitude of 39,000 feet. These F-16's were scrambled only upon the loss of a radio communication: the transponder never ceased to function.

Air Defenses Stood Down On 911 After ATC Alerts Given

by R. Anderson

Source: http://www.attackonamerica.net/airdefensesstooddownon911.htm
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They want us to believe that utilizing planes as missiles intended to attack the US does not fall under standard defensive procedures?  WTF, are they really that stupid to continue peddling this bullshit?

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Hey Chertoff admits the truck bombs, hahahaha dickwad, he knows who did it.
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Doug Feith is such a fricking asshole.

He is trying to justify 7.5 years of suspending the constitution and he looks like his head is going to explode.

Isn't iit overly obvious that these guys definitely knew that 9/11 was an inside job?  Just listen to their nonsense.
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More on the insanity of the NORAD/FAA crap: http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040805095600503
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'We wondered how multiple attacks could transform the constitution' .. this is now The 2009 PNAC Extreme Gloating Extravaganza

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The president was allowed the authority to ground planes?  WTF? Norm Mineta grounded the fricking planes.

These guys are compete disinfo artists.

There is no way they could ever testify in a court of law, they would suddenly convulse in depraved maniacal high pitched screams... "what a world, what a world"
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They are justifying the anti-constitutional FEMA and continuity of government.

holy crap, this needs to be youtubed, this is some amazing shit.

"The oath is to defend, protect the constitution.  since the president is the executive branch, we must preserve and protect the presidency."

WTF kind of back ass logic is that?

The constitution is not the "presidency".

It is the separation of powers, oversight, limitations of government, individual rights.

YOU CANNOT DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION BY REPEALING THE CONSTITUTION!

This is really some amazing stuff here.  It is like watching an interview with a serial killer justifying his/her crimes.
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"there have been a number of terrorist attacks in recent years"

He was smiling when he said that... criminals always get a kick out of reliving their crimes.
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Feith reveals that they haven't gone after anybody for 9/11 (OBL) because the attacks might not have been over.

for 8 years?...

...Other events 'Less costly' than 9/11?

How much did it cost Doug?

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Feith reveals that they haven't gone after anybody for 9/11 (OBL) because the attacks might not have been over.

for 8 years?...

...Other events 'Less costly' than 9/11?

How much did it cost Doug?

Yeah, it is truly amazing.

All they said is "9/11 forced us to suspend the constitution to prevent further attacks".

They never ever mentioned that the best way to avaoid future attacks is to first find out who attacked, how they attacked, why did they attack, and what did they attack.

These questions still remain unanswered.

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Ari Fleisher said "we had to get congress involved"


How Ari?

How did you get congress involved?

ANTHRAX?

DC SNIPER?

SENATOR WELLSTONE?

CHANDRA LEVY?


Yeah Ari, you sure as hell did get congress involved.
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This is the constitutional law center?

WTF?

They really need to do a much better job.
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Woman asking about a 'Truth commission'

sounds like there is a 911 truther in the audience too.. shouted something about people being dead.. probably been 'ejected' by now

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hahaha fannigan says that if he is forced to testify with a supeana then he would answer some questions.

WTF asshole, answer them every day for the rest of your life. This country gave you everything you have, everything you are and you just spit on it and the people in it.
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OMFG - Gitmo explanation.

This is amazing.

They are describing the Nazi justification for death camps.

This is really unbelievable.
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Seith "protect the civilians"

1000000 Iraqis, you take classes from idf?

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OMFG - Gitmo explanation.

This is amazing.

They are describing the Nazi justification for death camps.

This is really unbelievable.

Faith: "We needed a descriptioin to define the Muslims so that people would not be upset so we chose 'unlawful combatants'"

Hitler: "We needed a description to define the Jews so that people would not be upset so we chose 'rats'"
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i'm waiting for wearechange to bust out, ...any second now...any second...

yes

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holy crap, was that WAC?

look at the pieces of crap laughing.

Yeah assholes laughing about the 3k dead on 9/11, the over 5k soldiers who gave their lives protecting your lies, and the over 1,000,000 innocent women and children.

F U, you fricking terrorists.
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"the attack was obiously very hard to imagine before it happened"

What, you mean the type attack u had been running drills for for the year prior?
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Chertoff: "We could imagine generic attacks, but obviously no one could imagine this specific attack"

Really?

Is that a fact?

Is that why the National Reconaissance Office was running a war game involving the flying of aircraft into buildings on 9/11/2001?  Is that why the CIA leaked the plot for the Lone Gunman pilot? Is that why the Pentagon has a model with an airplane in the center of it years before 9/11? Is that why Ptech had power to control aircraft via their FAA risk management software and were running this scenario on 9/11?


This is fricking bizarro world.
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Chertoff: "We could imagine generic attacks, but obviously no one could imagine this specific attack"

Really?

Is that a fact?

Is that why the National Reconaissance Office was running a war game involving the flying of aircraft into buildings on 9/11/2001?  Is that why the CIA leaked the plot for the Lone Gunman pilot? Is that why the Pentagon has a model with an airplane in the center of it years before 9/11? Is that why Ptech had power to control aircraft via their FAA risk management software and were running this scenario on 9/11?


This is fricking bizarro world.

Ha, I thought I was listening to Condi rice when I heard that.. totally counting on people being uninformed

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unbelievable ... why do people applaud such BS.
The truth will set you free
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntBg2qwk_M&fmt=35

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mujq-C1UAw0

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CCIcjIngLA