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« on: April 10, 2009, 06:18:31 PM »

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5745

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER

Friends, some former Ron Paul supporters are now being courted by "radicals" stressing a new revolution of working class Americans against Obama and his big business supporters.  www.resistnet.org is one of their biggest voices.  In truth, our heroic gun totin' woodsmen are actually following Washington DC public relations firm Shirley & Bannister public affairs, a front group for the Bush family and the insurance industry.

The "tough guys" being organized into Milita units to march on Washington DC are being led by a front group funded by Westinghouse Corporation, Prudential Insurance, AETNA Insurance, the DuPont family, the Forbes family, McDonald Douglas, nuclear power plant builders and about a hundred groups made up of Washington lawyers and lobbyists.


What an embarassment.  Organizing all of this "libertarian protest" is the biggest client of all, The Republican National Committee.  The secret is out, you've been had, duped, snookered and suckered.

The group warning us about the New World Order is actually being led by the people they are supposed to be against.
It seems the Republican Party, after having been abandoned by the Christian Coalition, thought it could go after the Ron Paul supporters by pretending to be "just plain folks."  Yup, the Forbes and DuPont familiies, Westinghouse, Prudential, Aetna and McDonald Douglass along with thousands of lawyers working for every crooked industry and phony front group in America, all suddenly "libertarians" supporting "the little guy" against big government and the rich.


This was the "dirty tricks" front group Karl Rove used during the campaigns, the ones that pumped out all thsoe stories we later learned were lies.

Now they are out in the woods, no longer behind the wheel of that Lexus.  It's all blue jeans and assault rifles for what used to be the Washington DC bloodsucking elite.

Perhaps, when it comes time to march on Washington, you might want to look around and see how many Bush or DuPond faces you see.

Client list below...the backers of "the people's revolution:"

If you are a veteran or honest working American, look at this as the "need not apply" list also.

    * AETNA
    * AFIPAC
    * Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
    * Allied Pilots Association
    * American Association of Health Plans
    * American Association of Political Consultants
    * American Conservative Union
    * Americans for Hope, Growth & Opportunity
    * American Policy Center
    * American Public Philosophy Institute
    * The American Spectator
    * Australian Barley Board
    * Black America's Political Action Committee
    * Blackwell Corporation
    * Bruce W. Eberle & Associates
    * Business Mail Express
    * Campaign Solutions
    * Canadian MG Lewis MacKenzie (Ret.)
    * CapitolWatch
    * The Carmen Group
    * Carrying Capacity Network
    * Center for Individual Freedom
    * CIGNA
    * Citizens for State Power
    * Citizens United
    * Club for Growth
    * Collegiate Network[1]
    * Conservative Political Action Conference
    * Ann Coulter
    * Crown Publishing
    * Davis, Manafort & Freedman, Inc.
    * The Honorable Pete DuPont
    * Employee Benefits Associates
    * Energy Freedom Alliance
    * Federalist Society
    * Flickers Films
    * Free Enterprise Fund
    * Free Speech Coalition
    * Freedom Alliance
    * Foley & Lardner
    * Forbes for President 2000
    * The Galen Institute
    * Grassfire.org
    * The Hawthorn Group
    * Heritage Foundation
    * Institute for Legal Reform
    * Institute for Policy Innovation
    * Institute for Socio-Economic Studies
    * The Keene Report
    * Law Enforcement Alliance of America
    * The Limited
    * The Manhattan Institute
    * McDonnell Douglas
    * McGuire/Woods Consulting, LLC.
    * National Audit Defense Network
    * National Center for Policy Analysis
    * National Farmers Federation of Australia
    * National Rifle Association
    * National Rifle Association-ILA
    * National Taxpayers Union
    * News World Communications
    * Nuclear Energy Institute
    * The O'Leary/Kamber Report
    * Playcare Incorporated
    * PM Consulting Corporation
    * Prima Publishing
    * Progress & Freedom Foundation
    * Prudential
    * Public Safety Systems
    * Republican Majority Coalition
    * Republican National Committee
    * Natan Sharansky
    * Small Business Survival Committee
    * Southeastern Legal Foundation
    * Starboard Response
    * Stevens & Schriefer
    * United Seniors Association
    * University of Phoenix
    * USA Weekend
    * U.S. Chamber of Commerce
    * U.S. English
    * Washington Times Foundation
    * Westinghouse Corporation
    * The Winston Group
    * WND Books


The list above, our patriotic resistance movement is also interchangable as a list of "Who's Who: American Scumbags"
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 06:24:48 PM »

WoW...what a surprise!

I betcha this all was formed even BEFORE Comrade Obama won the election!
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 06:29:13 PM »

WoW...what a surprise!

I betcha this all was formed even BEFORE Comrade Obama won the election!

You know it. It one thing to suspect it, it's another when someone exposes it. This should be bumped for others to see when they visit the board on Monday. I'm not a regular here because of my time, but I do try to contribute when I can.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 06:32:57 PM »

resistnet's site doesn't come up for me.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 06:33:59 PM »

Visit Shirley & Banister's website and make sure to click on the clients link. It's a who's who of everything we despise!

http://www.sbpublicaffairs.com/

Al Sonja L. Schmidt
Ambassador Dore Gold
American Security Council
American Spectator Magazine
Basic Books
   William F. Buckley
Bradley Foundation
Carol Liebau
Casey Research
Charles Hooff Realtors
Christian Anti-Defamation Commission
Citizens for the Republic
Citizens United
Craig Shirley: Rendezvous With Destiny
Crown Publishing
     Fred Barnes
     Brent Bozell
     Ann Coulter
     Bill Gertz
     Robert Novak
Dave Smick
Dezenhall Resources
Federation for American Immigration Reform
Greg Lewis: Politics of Anger
Harcourt Publishing:
     Andrew Klavan
Harper Collins:
      Peggy Noonan
      Joe Scarbourough
High Impact Leadership Coalition:
      Bishop Harry Jackson
Human Events
Ignatius Press
Intercollegiate Studies Institute
John R. Lott
McGuire Woods Consulting
MovieGuide
National Rifle Association
Philadelphia Trust Company
Publius House:
      John Hostettler
Rachel Ehrenfeld
Richard Viguerie
Safe Florida Foundation
Simon & Schuster:
      Macel Falwell
StopHimNow.com
Strang Communications:
      Mike Evans
      John Hagee
      Harry Jackson
      Tony Perkins
Stroud & Hall:
      Rick Perry
TheCall
The Cardinal Newman Society
The Washington Examiner
Threshold Editions:
      John Bolton
      Edward Djerejian
      Deal Hudson
      Al Regnery
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 06:36:18 PM »

resistnet's site doesn't come up for me.

This is actually the site http://www.resistnet.org/  but it's down mysteriously.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 06:37:18 PM »

It's not like mass protests are an effective means of changing things anyway. Hundreds of thousands in the U.S. alone protested against the Iraq war before it even started, yet the war was launched anyway.

I'm reminded of the following excerpt:

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J. Hunter O'Dell, one of [Martin Luther] King's early lieutenants in the movement, recognized the fixation with media developing among civil rights activists and lamented the consequences.

"We all recognize that technologically this is a media age," O'Dell wrote. "But it was disastrous for us to rely primarily upon these corporate forms of mass communication to get our message and analysis out to the public....In the end, it means a new kind of addiction to media rather than being in charge of our own agenda and relying on mass support as our guarantee that ultimately the news-covering apparatus must give recognition to our authority."

O'Dell's point is that the civil rights movement acquired its "authority" to articulate large political aspirations, not because network television came to Selma or Birmingham, but from the hundreds and even thousands of meetings in black churches, week after week, across the South over many years. The dramatic spectacles that appeared on TV were the product of those mobilizing sermons and dialogues, not the other way around.

The movement's organizing processes, O'Dell noted, contained all of the functional elements of a responsible political organization -- mass education and communication as well as continuing accountability between the leaders and the supporting throngs. "The power of any movement for democracy," O'Dell emphasized, "is always dependent on such reciprocal relations between the mass of people and their leadership."

These elements are missing, it seems, from much of the irregular citizens' politics that tries to emulate King's heroic model. Activists hold press conferences or arrange dramatic events to prod the political system. But patiently built reciprocal relationships between leaders and followers, the laborious tasks of education and communication, are often not even attempted. To be blunt, there is a hollowness behind many of the placards and politicians know it.

Succeeding generations of political activists, it often seems, copied the glamorous surfaces of the civil rights legacy -- the hot moments of national celebrity so well remembered -- while skipping over the hard part, the organizational sinew that was underneath.

-- William Greider, Who Will Tell the People, p. 206


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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 06:37:27 PM »

This is actually the site http://www.resistnet.org/  but it's down mysteriously.
I got it, change .org to .com
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 06:46:57 PM »

I got it, change .org to .com


Thanks I got it. http://www.resistnet.com/

Can you believe the stuff on this website?



They have a lot of groups listed.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 06:51:52 PM »

It's not like mass protests are an effective means of changing things anyway. Hundreds of thousands in the U.S. alone protested against the Iraq war before it even started, yet the war was launched anyway.

I'm reminded of the following excerpt:

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J. Hunter O'Dell, one of [Martin Luther] King's early lieutenants in the movement, recognized the fixation with media developing among civil rights activists and lamented the consequences.

"We all recognize that technologically this is a media age," O'Dell wrote. "But it was disastrous for us to rely primarily upon these corporate forms of mass communication to get our message and analysis out to the public....In the end, it means a new kind of addiction to media rather than being in charge of our own agenda and relying on mass support as our guarantee that ultimately the news-covering apparatus must give recognition to our authority."

O'Dell's point is that the civil rights movement acquired its "authority" to articulate large political aspirations, not because network television came to Selma or Birmingham, but from the hundreds and even thousands of meetings in black churches, week after week, across the South over many years. The dramatic spectacles that appeared on TV were the product of those mobilizing sermons and dialogues, not the other way around.

The movement's organizing processes, O'Dell noted, contained all of the functional elements of a responsible political organization -- mass education and communication as well as continuing accountability between the leaders and the supporting throngs. "The power of any movement for democracy," O'Dell emphasized, "is always dependent on such reciprocal relations between the mass of people and their leadership."

These elements are missing, it seems, from much of the irregular citizens' politics that tries to emulate King's heroic model. Activists hold press conferences or arrange dramatic events to prod the political system. But patiently built reciprocal relationships between leaders and followers, the laborious tasks of education and communication, are often not even attempted. To be blunt, there is a hollowness behind many of the placards and politicians know it.

Succeeding generations of political activists, it often seems, copied the glamorous surfaces of the civil rights legacy -- the hot moments of national celebrity so well remembered -- while skipping over the hard part, the organizational sinew that was underneath.

-- William Greider, Who Will Tell the People, p. 206


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I agree, but they aren't interested in that. There means are to distract those citizens who are fed up with the status quo and get them entangled in the illusional liberty movement financial backed by the elites who caused the collapse of America. If they can thwart any real change from those of us who are sincere, then they are successful in the battle.

The sad part is, I don't think most people are sophisticated to discern this. Look how many including this forum were Glenn Beck supporters.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 06:55:23 PM »

yes- that site steers everyone for registering for a local state mailing list for resistnet.

http://www.resistnet.com/
   Many of their linked news articles match themes that you see over here, but if you look carefully, nearly all of it tries to steer people into hating on the democrats while respecting republicans. In reality, republicans and democrats are different divisions of one party that shares the same values. In order to understand this, you only have to be intellectual enough to understand what neoliberalism is (e.g. globalist economic philosophy), and what a neoconservative is (they mainly support globalist military organizations and ventures), and to understand how Bush was both a neoconservative who embraced neoliberalism. Likewise, Clinton supported intervention overseas and signed the same NAFTA, WTO, G8 trade deals.
  Basically, the goal seems to be to distract everyone, and blame the current mess on the fact that the democrats have been in for the last two months. They hope that they can bring the RNC back into power in 2010, as though that will fix things. Maybe they'll be successful, as most people have about a 5 week memory span for current events.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2009, 06:59:09 PM »

If you notice on their site this. You will see it's all about Barack. No mention of what the Republicans did the last 8 years.

What is the "No Tolerance" policy?
Every ResistNet member is required to consent to a "No Tolerance" policy which states:
I affirm that ResistNet is for principled, patriotic resistance to Barack Obama's ideology and agenda and is not a forum for personal attacks, lewd or profane language, or militancy against Barack Obama or others. As such, I accept ResistNet's strict No Tolerance policy and will not make inappropriate postings. I understand that such postings will be removed and members responsible will be banned without further notice. I also will report such postings to the site administrator.

What is the specific plan for the Patriotic Resistance?
We believe our plan to "Resist, Rebuild, Restore" provides the broad framework around which to build a Patriotic Resistance that can, in the long term, turn back the Obama/leftist agenda. This broad structure is like an endoskeleton (an internal structure) which will allow the Patriotic Resitance to grow and develop organically as opposed to an exoskeleton which would limit growth. Thus, we are currently focusing on Resisting because we believe a firm, patriotic resistance will cause a broad coalition of grassroots Americans to unite around a common goal of stopping the socialistic Obama agenda. From this newfound unity, we will rebuild and restore. The Resistance, if done properly,  will create the structure and foundation for rebuilding the conservative movement and restoring constitutional leadership to our society.

Here on ResistNet, our goal is to give concerned citizens both a forum for ideas and a practical way to get involved. Ideally, anyone who is willing to invest their time in advancing this patriotic, idea-based resistance to this new wave of socialism would be able to contribute through ResistNet. As we see a need, we will create volunteer "jobs" and post those on our Job Board. Those jobs will generally fall into two categories: assiting in developing the content of the site or assisting in developing the State Groups which are the backbone of our network.

Already, the Resistance is developing. Hundreds of thousands are signing the Patriotic Resistance petition. Tens of thousands are joining together on ResistNet. State and issue groups are forming. Currently, these efforts are in their embryonic stages. Be patient. Focus on the broad goals. And let's keep working together.

Is Grassfire's Patriotic Resistance working with other similar efforts?
Immediately following the election, Grassfire.org took a strong ideological stand opposing Barack Obama's socialist agenda. We have assembled one of the largest grassroots conservative constiuencies but we make no claims to the "turf" of opposing Obama's socialism. We are eager to work with individuals and organizations who share this purpose of exposing and resisting the move to statism. We also seek to provide grassroots citizens with unique and powerful tools to network and impact the debate. We understand that leadership is earned through a record of trust, excellent ideas and a track record of success. We believe the leaders of the Patriotic Resistance and the future of the conservative movement will be those individuals and organizations who can bring together trust, ideas and success.

http://www.resistnet.com/notes/FAQ#point2
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2009, 07:01:50 PM »

yes- that site steers everyone for registering for a local state mailing list for resistnet.

http://www.resistnet.com/
   Many of their linked news articles match themes that you see over here, but if you look carefully, nearly all of it tries to steer people into hating on the democrats while respecting republicans. In reality, republicans and democrats are different divisions of one party that shares the same values. In order to understand this, you only have to be intellectual enough to understand what neoliberalism is (e.g. globalist economic philosophy), and what a neoconservative is (they mainly support globalist military organizations and ventures), and to understand how Bush was both a neoconservative who embraced neoliberalism. Likewise, Clinton supported intervention overseas and signed the same NAFTA, WTO, G8 trade deals.
  Basically, the goal seems to be to distract everyone, and blame the current mess on the fact that the democrats have been in for the last two months. They hope that they can bring the RNC back into power in 2010, as though that will fix things. Maybe they'll be successful, as most people have about a 5 week memory span for current events.

I'm glad you noticed that too. These guys cover all of their bases when screwing the people. Sick! Sick! Sick! People are rightfully angry, but their anger will lead to apathy eventually.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2009, 07:07:31 PM »

Look at this story: The UN Makes it Official: Global Warming Hysteria Is All About Redistributing Wealth
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/the-un-makes-it-official

It's all Obama's fault.  Roll Eyes ::)Nevermind, this doctrine comes from Rockefeller's Institute. Obama's the fall guy and a new puppet stands in line next.
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2009, 07:37:50 PM »

Look at the upcoming tea parties....  Totally hijacked by Fox News!

The way they're promoting it, you'd think it was actually their idea.  But instead, they co-opted it from the very people they said sould be arrested and tazed! lol
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2009, 02:46:03 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2009, 02:49:55 PM »

NICE RESEARCH!
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2009, 02:55:14 PM »

NICE RESEARCH!

Thanks, Sane for placing this important hit piece!
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2009, 03:07:43 PM »

It's not like mass protests are an effective means of changing things anyway. Hundreds of thousands in the U.S. alone protested against the Iraq war before it even started, yet the war was launched anyway.
That's right. I just wish I knew what was effective. Sad
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2009, 03:48:33 PM »

That's right. I just wish I knew what was effective. Sad

Well, doing nothing is clearly not an option.

Trying to change things via the so-called "election" process is obviously a waste of time (thanks to institutionalized election-rigging).

And trying to complain our way out of the problem won't solve anything either.

In my view, the only approach that has an even remote chance of success is for "we the people" to (a) agree to disagree on the diversionary wedge issues (e.g., gay marriage) that partisan hacks in the "news" media soooo love to obsess over, and (b) follow the example set last September by three of the 3rd party presidential candidates when they united behind four points of agreement; and to do so for the purpose of exerting non-stop pressure on Congress to implement public policy reforms on which the vast majority of us agree.

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"Social reform is not to be secured by noise and shouting; by complaints and denunciation; by the formation of parties, or the making of revolutions; but by the awakening of thought and the progress of ideas. Until there be correct thought, there cannot be right action; and when there is correct thought, right action will follow. Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness."

-- Henry George, Social Problems, p. 242


"In politics a person is not a citizen if the person's only function is to vote. Voters choose people who, in turn, act like citizens. They argue. They establish the forms within which people live their lives. They make politics. The people who merely vote for them merely make politicians. People who argue for their positions in a town meeting are acting like citizens. People who simply drop scraps of paper in a box or pull a lever are not acting like citizens; they are acting like consumers picking between prepackaged items. They had nothing to do with the items. All they can do is pick what is. They cannot actively participate in making what should be."

-- Karl Hess, Community Technology, p. 10


"The Republicans and Democrats lie awake nights trying to think up new proposals to expand big government. They are continually flooding us with all kinds of threats and proposals and programs that they're going to pass, and we can feel that we must jump up and fight against these things...But as long as we do that, we will be doing it for the rest of our lives -- fighting brush fires wherever we go -- whatever they want to do we have to fight back and they will be calling the shots. We must be making the proposals for change."

-- Harry Browne, during a speech he gave at the 1998 National Libertarian Party Convention

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Now, if I had my way, we'd all unite behind the following reform measures:

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=81509.0 (election reform)

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=98465.0 (monetary reform)

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=88406.msg511458#msg511458 (tax reform)

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=81613.0 (education reform)

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=52952.0 (health care reform)

     http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3835: (the American Freedom Agenda Act)

     http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.3171: (the Benjamin Franklin True Patriot Act)

     http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.153: (the Second Amendment Protection Act)

     http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.1146: (the American Sovereignty Restoration Act)

     http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec99/cr010699-fpra.htm (the Freedom and Privacy Restoration Act)

     http://www.freepress.net/release/336 (the Internet Freedom Preservation Act)


But if there were only two things the vast majority of us could agree on, I would hope it would be (a) election reform and (b) monetary reform.

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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2009, 12:19:15 PM »

I agree with Geo that doing nothing is not an option, but me personally, I would rather be part of a resistance that was funded by donations from across the globe gaining global support instead of being part of a bunch of Repub jackasses.

My take on this is;  This is the best opportunity to discredit the truth/freedom movement that the PTB have had since the beginning.  You take pissed off, gun carrying, republicans on a peaceful demonstration and what do you get?  Armed response from the police.  Than you have a standoff.  I am not saying that all of the protesters would be armed, just the provocateurs.  Then by being on the mailing list, you are identified and listed to be round up if there is a problem.  Now the media will spin the story saying that the liberty/freedom/truth movement is a bunch of local-yocals crazy from the mountains out for an armed rebellion and that no one is safe from them.  Enter the neighborhood watch and report program in which citizens would be forced to turn in their neighbors for "rebelling".

Maybe I think to far in the extreme, but.....

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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2009, 01:54:16 PM »

Look at the upcoming tea parties....  Totally hijacked by Fox News!

The way they're promoting it, you'd think it was actually their idea.  But instead, they co-opted it from the very people they said sould be arrested and tazed! lol

if it's promoted by conservative talk radio, like the April 15 tea parties are, it's not radical or dissident or change-agent-ish or any of those things.

but it is a chance to meet Republican women  :-)
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The New World Order Is Taking Over the Patriot and Truth Movements

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Jeffrey Grupp
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We all know that there are infiltrators into the various patriot movements. Old news. But that is not what I discuss in this article. I may be wrong, but I think something far more serious is going on: I think that the biggest, strongest patriot movements (Alex Jones and the Truth Movement, Campaign for Liberty, etc.) are about to completely damaged or hijacked so that they no longer exist, and are completely destroyed. This is the New World Order tactic, so none of us should be surprised, just like I was not surprised when the Ron Paul Presidential run was run off the road and taken over almost effortlessly, it seems, before the first votes in New Hampshire were cast. So let’s get into this issue…
   
If Ann Coulter is so ‘awake’ now, endorsing Ron Paul and stating that he was right about everything, why won’t she then talk about the things that Ron Paul discusses: the Fed, Codex Alimentarius, the North American Union, the WTO and IMF, what the Second Amendment really is all about, and so on? There is something funny going on here… and I think I know what. If Glen Beck is such a patriot and such a rebel of the mass media now, also promoting Ron Paul, why can’t his research team, after searching for over a week as Beck said, simply find any of the dozens of news articles in Newsweek, the New York Times, the Houston Chronicle, and so on, about the massive FEMA camps all over? Answer: he’s lying. Why is the mass media moving into our territory now, discussing some of the same issues we Truthers and patriots discuss, all of a sudden? If this keeps up, even as Alex Jones hinted at last week, his radio show “could become passé”. In other words, the movement will be hijacked from Jones, Ron Paul, and other leaders in the genuine patriot movements by the mass media (and the New World Order that controls the mass media), and the mass media will have control of them, just as they almost effortlessly took over the Ron Paul Presidential run’s momentum in the days before the New Hampshire Primary. Let me explain what I think is really going on.

Consider these facts:

    1. All of a sudden, starting around late last fall, right when the stock market crash was going on, with a vengeance, the mass corporatist media began telling us that there is a New World Order and a coming world government. And since then, the mass media tells us either that this New World Order and coming world government is great, or they would tell us that it’s bad and it’s only about the bankers—they don’t tell us, for example, that it’s project of the occultist and militaristic corporatists behind the scenes, or that it traces back to Hitler—I didn’t hear Beck cover that story!

    2. That same mass media is telling us that the old system is the cause of the economic collapse, and “oh no [‘wink wink], the people might revolt against it (against system and/or the bankers)”.

That “old system” referred to in 2 is, we are told by the thought-controlling mass media, not the country the Founders set up for us, but rather:

    3. our current system of government (which is far from the libertarian Founders’ government, and which is now actually a corporatist system where the government is a ceremonial government, like the Roman Congress was in ancient Rome),

    4. the banks (but not the globalist banks, IMF, etc.),

    5. capitalism (sure we never really have had it in the past 150 years—instead we’ve only had corporatism—but what traces of capitalism we’ve had are now being castigated [‘GM’s failed business model’, etc.] or called nonexistent by the mass media, needing to be replaced by socialistic systems, such as with the NewsWeek cover story: “We Are All Socialists Now”)

And there are other odd things going on, such as

    6. Ann Coulter, who has been unwavering and incredibly rabid and virulent in her pro-war hate for Middle Eastern people, all of a sudden is supporting the most anti-war presidential candidate in decades, saying he was right all along—um… did I hear that right?

There are other examples, but these are all stunning, and they are quite new in the mass media. Is any of this making any sense? Because it’s really confusing me—Anne Coulter has never used reason, but now suddenly she wants to? I think it’s all sounding more like the old “wolf in sheep’s clothing” than anything else. To understanding the conclusions I am going to bring out in this article, you will have to interconnect all these points, 1-6, at once. Let’s continue…

We are being told in the mass media in various ways that these systems (1-3) have failed us, that’s really the problem, and those systems need to be changed (eradicated) in one way or another. But all this (and so much more) has been going on all along for centuries—the banks robbing us, etc.—so why now does the mass media all-at-once decide to announce a few of these tid-bits to us that they’ve covered up for decades? If the mass media suddenly wants to tell us how the banks have ripped us all off, well why didn’t they tell us that in 1913, the 1980s, or maybe even just in 2007? And why not tell us that Obama supported it all? But more importantly, why all-at-once, right at this particular point in time, are we getting these few tid-bits from the mass media? Answer: look what it is doing to the patriot movements; it’s becoming them.

Now, also consider that the mass media is telling us a few more things simultaneously, in addition to 1-6:

    7. world government is the solution to the failed systems and to the economic collapse, and

    8. The “conspiracy people” were right about a all along.

Now, notice, again, that 1-8 are all happening at once! Coincidence? Hard to believe. The robots and extremists of the mass media (Beck, Hannity, Savage, Limbaugh, Coulter, O’Reilly, and others.) have been such robotic and unfathomable traitors through the years that they can only be carrying out an agenda now too, not trying to report news, attract an audience, or keep their ratings high. Why else would they bring all this up at the very same time? Perhaps Alex Jones is correct, and these propagandists are suddenly just worried about their ratings and their competition from the alternative media. This may be true, but as I said, my theory is that there’s something more serious going on.

Here’s the issue: the New World Order wants worldwide rioting, mass death, economic collapse, sacrifice of lower minions and freemasons of the New World Order, compliance with the climate change laws and servitude, and a set up of a Brave New World, all over the course of the next decade or decades. What better way is there to do this than to shock and clean-the-slate of the populace of the world (often called “shock doctrine,” as a recent book discussed) to get them ready for big changes and compliance with a new world, right when the populace is getting desperate and un-thought-out due to their desperation and increasing poverty, than by introducing them with information about how evil the world leaders are and world system is (but all along keeping the real completely unseen master corporatists out of the picture)? Answer: you merely implement 1-8, where a key element in that and to cause revolt is to hijack the real patriot movements with the vacuous, uninformed, undirected, and undisciplined false “patriotism” of Beck, Coulter, and the rest, by simply taking over their discussions, as seems to be starting right now with Coulter, Beck, and others. There! That’s the issue, and it could easily result in a quick total hijacking of the power the patriot movements have accumulated.

Proof that the New World Order wants to use the Truth Movement and similar movements for the aforementioned aims was possibly even seen last weekend when some news agencies said that the Pittsburgh police shooting was due to the shooter listening to the words of Glen Beck and Alex Jones (notice how those two were coupled together), not because of, for example, the violent tendencies of the shooter (he was accused of assaulting a girlfriend in the past), his economic hardships, or some other cause. As if Alex Jones has ever promoted violence against police, rather than mild civil disobedience, and/or taking over the government by the people (the latter being the often-mentioned trademarked “Alex Jones solution” to the New World Order takeover of the country). (Also note that if this is true, there also may be an additional divide-and-conquer maneuver already being set up as 1-8 are implemented: set the revolting parts of the populace against the non-revolting parts.) If Ann Coulter is so “awake” and patriotic now, why doesn’t she point out that alcohol and Big Pharma kills hundreds of thousands each year, many times what violence does, or violence with guns, and not listening to Alex Jones or Glen Beck? Answer: because she’s carrying out the typical Big Media agenda that she’s ordered to. Nothing new.

Now, also remember before 9/11, when Alex Jones predicted it a few weeks before? He was able to do that because the mass media—the mouthpiece and brainwashing device of the New World Order—was telling us it was going to happen. Doesn’t it seem like the mass media is again telling us something here, also, when you interconnect points 1-8? They are telling us that 1-8 will happen, that the old world and our current way of life will be destroyed, that We the People will destroy it with our riots, with our contributing to the economic problems, and through our adherence to the old system of government (described above), so that the new communism will inevitably set in—it’s all the fault of We the People. Now where have we heard this sort of a story before! (Hint: after World War II, we were told that the war was caused by the mass madness of the world citizenry, not by the New World Order, and thus Truman had to set up all those mental health acts that he did in order that We the People could be cured of our irrationalism.)

So, the mass media, again, is merely telling us what is going to happen, that it’s all our fault. So, let me summarize: it is clear to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the corporatist New World Order is now using what most of us think of as the most hard-core of the patriot movements in order to carry out their agenda. LET ME SAY THAT IN DIFFERENT WORDS SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM GETTING ACROSS TO YOU:

The real patriot movements are getting so large, so powerful, so pervasive, that the New World Order has no choice but to fully hijack these movements if they are to carry out their planned Brave New World agendas. More specifically: the New World Order is going to make our Truth and Patriot movements their primary tools of operation to carry out Eugenics and so forth.

That’s my theory, and my prediction.

How, you might ask, will it all work? Well, if you want to get a revolt going, why not disclose false flag terror (such as Michael Savage started to do recently for the first time on his radio show where he foretold Obama’s upcoming Reichstag)? That sure would do it if the mass media went that far and all-at-once got this the real-ness of false flag terror into the minds of the sappy and unfocussed citizenry, shocking them to the core by totally upsetting their established belief system, all right when that citizenry was destitute, in a depression, filled with bird flu epidemic fears, with millions living tent cities, hungry and cold, and so on, as is most likely going to be the case this fall or winter. Was Savage’s recent comment a prelude to this?

It is quite obvious the New World Order is pushing for violence, as Alex Jones has been pointing out. The New World Order, through our city, state and Federal governments, is pushing the populace so hard now, more and more each day, with impossible taxation (who can pay all the taxes as we fall into massive depression?), with crazy new laws (banning home-schooling, etc.), police taserings, making home gardens illegal (just like the King in the book Robin Hood banned hunting deer), announcing that the bankers are robbing us, announcing that the government is not helping the economic crisis but is fuelling it (of course they don’t disclose all the details with this), and most importantly, getting ready to remove the Second Amendment and all of the Constitution. They are creating a system where we are not Americans, but where we are all living like the slaves on the plantations in the 1800s, where only revolt (violence) could follow, because it is being pre-planned, and our movements are going to be used to fuel the violent revolts, unless we wake up to this possibility and start discussing these issues with urgency. Don’t forget how quickly the Ron Paul Presidential run was hijacked!

So what does the New World Order want with all the rioting? Well, there are several things. Firstly, this is part of the New World Order’s religious festival: spread as much mayhem, panic, misery and pure blood chaos as possible—this is a ‘work of art’ to the New World Order; it is like listening to Beethoven to them. Some of you may find this difficult to understand, but they attain their religious experience by this “theater”, as they often call it (remember Iraq was called a “theater” around the time of Shock and Awe? Notice the word “Awe” there, also).

If you still have trouble believing this, then ask yourself a question: What is the New World Order waiting for in killing billions? They’ve had super technology to kill as many of us as they want to for decades. They are building up our numbers in order to slaughter us, because the slaughter itself is their art, their high, just like the ancient hallucinatory ballgame (the ‘pitzlawal’, as it’s called by the Maya) of death-entertainment was for the Mayan shaman kings, a little like the ancient Roman gladiator fights, and a lot like the carnage in Iraq. What is beautiful to the New World Order is a world of deformed, sickened, ultra-violent, unintelligent desperate people, like the Island of Dr. Moreau. That’s the religious festival of the New World Order, and the aforementioned rioting is a key issue involved. If we want to be free, to be kings of ourselves, we have to realize this, to know the enemy as best we can, or else we will just go along the pitzlawal we are all currently caught in. The way to be kings of ourselves is to become intelligent, knowledgeable, deeply and genuinely religious, and self-sufficient in the way the Indians used to be—that’s the sort of civil disobedience we need, and which Henry David Thoreau lived when he wrote his influenial book on civil disobedience.

Ok, so a New World Order religious festival is the first point of the rioting. Another is that the rioting is the way to transform the nation into a shock state, and thus bring about an entry of the Brave New World. The old world has to be destroyed in order to set up the new world, and that means that our minds, our memories, our ways of life, and our peaceful day-to-day lifestyles of American comfort, the security for our families, and so on, all have to be destroyed, sending us into a mass state of shock (“shock doctrine”). I think a lot of people in our movement are oblivious to this intention, this plan, this hijacking of our movement. But isn’t that what they always do?

So, what should we do? Do we panic and start fighting with all the other patriots and Truthers for every little thing we disagree over? I disagree with other Truthers about many ideas, so should I fight with them about that constantly? Or should I fight the enemy? We of course must focus on the fight. But what is the fight? The fight is the fight for truth. But what is the truth? The truth is what we can experience and see with our eyes, right in front of our face. And what we see is the destruction of the Constitution and of the nation we live in.
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2009, 03:32:57 PM »

And here is Glen Beck's San Antonio tea party site.
And yes, they think we are that stupid.


http://www.theythinkyouarestupid.com/index.shtml

Check out these UNACCEPTABLE protest signs.



http://www.theythinkyouarestupid.com/signage.shtml

It's not bad enough that they are attempting to hijack and derail the truth movement, but they are now telling us what we can and cannot say? Where is our first amendment right to freedom of speech?

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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2009, 03:47:49 PM »

And here is Glen Beck's San Antonio tea party site.
And yes, they think we are that stupid.


http://www.theythinkyouarestupid.com/index.shtml

Check out these UNACCEPTABLE protest signs.



http://www.theythinkyouarestupid.com/signage.shtml

It's not bad enough that they are attempting to hijack and derail the truth movement, but they are now telling us what we can and cannot say? Where is our first amendment right to freedom of speech?



Any talk show host who does not talk about THE OBAMA DECEPTION is yanking your chain.  They are definitely on the side of the International Banking Elite who continue to use the Hegelian dialectic.
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2009, 03:56:15 PM »

Well, doing nothing is clearly not an option.

Trying to change things via the so-called "election" process is obviously a waste of time (thanks to institutionalized election-rigging).

And trying to complain our way out of the problem won't solve anything either.

In my view, the only approach that has an even remote chance of success is for "we the people" to (a) agree to disagree on the diversionary wedge issues (e.g., gay marriage) that partisan hacks in the "news" media soooo love to obsess over, and (b) follow the example set last September by three of the 3rd party presidential candidates when they united behind four points of agreement; and to do so for the purpose of exerting non-stop pressure on Congress to implement public policy reforms on which the vast majority of us agree.

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"Social reform is not to be secured by noise and shouting; by complaints and denunciation; by the formation of parties, or the making of revolutions; but by the awakening of thought and the progress of ideas. Until there be correct thought, there cannot be right action; and when there is correct thought, right action will follow. Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness."

-- Henry George, Social Problems, p. 242


"In politics a person is not a citizen if the person's only function is to vote. Voters choose people who, in turn, act like citizens. They argue. They establish the forms within which people live their lives. They make politics. The people who merely vote for them merely make politicians. People who argue for their positions in a town meeting are acting like citizens. People who simply drop scraps of paper in a box or pull a lever are not acting like citizens; they are acting like consumers picking between prepackaged items. They had nothing to do with the items. All they can do is pick what is. They cannot actively participate in making what should be."

-- Karl Hess, Community Technology, p. 10


"The Republicans and Democrats lie awake nights trying to think up new proposals to expand big government. They are continually flooding us with all kinds of threats and proposals and programs that they're going to pass, and we can feel that we must jump up and fight against these things...But as long as we do that, we will be doing it for the rest of our lives -- fighting brush fires wherever we go -- whatever they want to do we have to fight back and they will be calling the shots. We must be making the proposals for change."

-- Harry Browne, during a speech he gave at the 1998 National Libertarian Party Convention

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Now, if I had my way, we'd all unite behind the following reform measures:

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=81509.0 (election reform)

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=98465.0 (monetary reform)

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=88406.msg511458#msg511458 (tax reform)

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=81613.0 (education reform)

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=52952.0 (health care reform)

     http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3835: (the American Freedom Agenda Act)

     http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.3171: (the Benjamin Franklin True Patriot Act)

     http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.153: (the Second Amendment Protection Act)

     http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.1146: (the American Sovereignty Restoration Act)

     http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec99/cr010699-fpra.htm (the Freedom and Privacy Restoration Act)

     http://www.freepress.net/release/336 (the Internet Freedom Preservation Act)


But if there were only two things the vast majority of us could agree on, I would hope it would be (a) election reform and (b) monetary reform.

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Yeah you're right. Some unity would be helpful. It increases our credibility and is generally helpful. Heck it's probably the only way we're going to stand a chance. I think the first thing we'd have to do once we have any form of power is to prosecute the criminals, similar to the way this was done at Nurenberg. Show the world that if you commit crimes, you're gonna be prosecuted. The difference should be that we shouldn't go after the lower level criminals. Arrest the Round Table group members and put them behind bars. It's probably not going to happen that way, but it's what I'd like to see. It's probably going to get bloody.
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2009, 06:38:22 PM »

The New World Order Is Taking Over the Patriot and Truth Movements

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Jeffrey Grupp
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We all know that there are infiltrators into the various patriot movements. Old news. But that is not what I discuss in this article. I may be wrong, but I think something far more serious is going on: I think that the biggest, strongest patriot movements (Alex Jones and the Truth Movement, Campaign for Liberty, etc.) are about to completely damaged or hijacked so that they no longer exist, and are completely destroyed. This is the New World Order tactic, so none of us should be surprised, just like I was not surprised when the Ron Paul Presidential run was run off the road and taken over almost effortlessly, it seems, before the first votes in New Hampshire were cast. So let’s get into this issue…
   
If Ann Coulter is so ‘awake’ now, endorsing Ron Paul and stating that he was right about everything, why won’t she then talk about the things that Ron Paul discusses: the Fed, Codex Alimentarius, the North American Union, the WTO and IMF, what the Second Amendment really is all about, and so on? There is something funny going on here… and I think I know what. If Glen Beck is such a patriot and such a rebel of the mass media now, also promoting Ron Paul, why can’t his research team, after searching for over a week as Beck said, simply find any of the dozens of news articles in Newsweek, the New York Times, the Houston Chronicle, and so on, about the massive FEMA camps all over? Answer: he’s lying. Why is the mass media moving into our territory now, discussing some of the same issues we Truthers and patriots discuss, all of a sudden? If this keeps up, even as Alex Jones hinted at last week, his radio show “could become passé”. In other words, the movement will be hijacked from Jones, Ron Paul, and other leaders in the genuine patriot movements by the mass media (and the New World Order that controls the mass media), and the mass media will have control of them, just as they almost effortlessly took over the Ron Paul Presidential run’s momentum in the days before the New Hampshire Primary. Let me explain what I think is really going on.

Consider these facts:

    1. All of a sudden, starting around late last fall, right when the stock market crash was going on, with a vengeance, the mass corporatist media began telling us that there is a New World Order and a coming world government. And since then, the mass media tells us either that this New World Order and coming world government is great, or they would tell us that it’s bad and it’s only about the bankers—they don’t tell us, for example, that it’s project of the occultist and militaristic corporatists behind the scenes, or that it traces back to Hitler—I didn’t hear Beck cover that story!

    2. That same mass media is telling us that the old system is the cause of the economic collapse, and “oh no [‘wink wink], the people might revolt against it (against system and/or the bankers)”.

That “old system” referred to in 2 is, we are told by the thought-controlling mass media, not the country the Founders set up for us, but rather:

    3. our current system of government (which is far from the libertarian Founders’ government, and which is now actually a corporatist system where the government is a ceremonial government, like the Roman Congress was in ancient Rome),

    4. the banks (but not the globalist banks, IMF, etc.),

    5. capitalism (sure we never really have had it in the past 150 years—instead we’ve only had corporatism—but what traces of capitalism we’ve had are now being castigated [‘GM’s failed business model’, etc.] or called nonexistent by the mass media, needing to be replaced by socialistic systems, such as with the NewsWeek cover story: “We Are All Socialists Now”)

And there are other odd things going on, such as

    6. Ann Coulter, who has been unwavering and incredibly rabid and virulent in her pro-war hate for Middle Eastern people, all of a sudden is supporting the most anti-war presidential candidate in decades, saying he was right all along—um… did I hear that right?

There are other examples, but these are all stunning, and they are quite new in the mass media. Is any of this making any sense? Because it’s really confusing me—Anne Coulter has never used reason, but now suddenly she wants to? I think it’s all sounding more like the old “wolf in sheep’s clothing” than anything else. To understanding the conclusions I am going to bring out in this article, you will have to interconnect all these points, 1-6, at once. Let’s continue…

We are being told in the mass media in various ways that these systems (1-3) have failed us, that’s really the problem, and those systems need to be changed (eradicated) in one way or another. But all this (and so much more) has been going on all along for centuries—the banks robbing us, etc.—so why now does the mass media all-at-once decide to announce a few of these tid-bits to us that they’ve covered up for decades? If the mass media suddenly wants to tell us how the banks have ripped us all off, well why didn’t they tell us that in 1913, the 1980s, or maybe even just in 2007? And why not tell us that Obama supported it all? But more importantly, why all-at-once, right at this particular point in time, are we getting these few tid-bits from the mass media? Answer: look what it is doing to the patriot movements; it’s becoming them.

Now, also consider that the mass media is telling us a few more things simultaneously, in addition to 1-6:

    7. world government is the solution to the failed systems and to the economic collapse, and

    8. The “conspiracy people” were right about a all along.

Now, notice, again, that 1-8 are all happening at once! Coincidence? Hard to believe. The robots and extremists of the mass media (Beck, Hannity, Savage, Limbaugh, Coulter, O’Reilly, and others.) have been such robotic and unfathomable traitors through the years that they can only be carrying out an agenda now too, not trying to report news, attract an audience, or keep their ratings high. Why else would they bring all this up at the very same time? Perhaps Alex Jones is correct, and these propagandists are suddenly just worried about their ratings and their competition from the alternative media. This may be true, but as I said, my theory is that there’s something more serious going on.

Here’s the issue: the New World Order wants worldwide rioting, mass death, economic collapse, sacrifice of lower minions and freemasons of the New World Order, compliance with the climate change laws and servitude, and a set up of a Brave New World, all over the course of the next decade or decades. What better way is there to do this than to shock and clean-the-slate of the populace of the world (often called “shock doctrine,” as a recent book discussed) to get them ready for big changes and compliance with a new world, right when the populace is getting desperate and un-thought-out due to their desperation and increasing poverty, than by introducing them with information about how evil the world leaders are and world system is (but all along keeping the real completely unseen master corporatists out of the picture)? Answer: you merely implement 1-8, where a key element in that and to cause revolt is to hijack the real patriot movements with the vacuous, uninformed, undirected, and undisciplined false “patriotism” of Beck, Coulter, and the rest, by simply taking over their discussions, as seems to be starting right now with Coulter, Beck, and others. There! That’s the issue, and it could easily result in a quick total hijacking of the power the patriot movements have accumulated.

Proof that the New World Order wants to use the Truth Movement and similar movements for the aforementioned aims was possibly even seen last weekend when some news agencies said that the Pittsburgh police shooting was due to the shooter listening to the words of Glen Beck and Alex Jones (notice how those two were coupled together), not because of, for example, the violent tendencies of the shooter (he was accused of assaulting a girlfriend in the past), his economic hardships, or some other cause. As if Alex Jones has ever promoted violence against police, rather than mild civil disobedience, and/or taking over the government by the people (the latter being the often-mentioned trademarked “Alex Jones solution” to the New World Order takeover of the country). (Also note that if this is true, there also may be an additional divide-and-conquer maneuver already being set up as 1-8 are implemented: set the revolting parts of the populace against the non-revolting parts.) If Ann Coulter is so “awake” and patriotic now, why doesn’t she point out that alcohol and Big Pharma kills hundreds of thousands each year, many times what violence does, or violence with guns, and not listening to Alex Jones or Glen Beck? Answer: because she’s carrying out the typical Big Media agenda that she’s ordered to. Nothing new.

Now, also remember before 9/11, when Alex Jones predicted it a few weeks before? He was able to do that because the mass media—the mouthpiece and brainwashing device of the New World Order—was telling us it was going to happen. Doesn’t it seem like the mass media is again telling us something here, also, when you interconnect points 1-8? They are telling us that 1-8 will happen, that the old world and our current way of life will be destroyed, that We the People will destroy it with our riots, with our contributing to the economic problems, and through our adherence to the old system of government (described above), so that the new communism will inevitably set in—it’s all the fault of We the People. Now where have we heard this sort of a story before! (Hint: after World War II, we were told that the war was caused by the mass madness of the world citizenry, not by the New World Order, and thus Truman had to set up all those mental health acts that he did in order that We the People could be cured of our irrationalism.)

So, the mass media, again, is merely telling us what is going to happen, that it’s all our fault. So, let me summarize: it is clear to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the corporatist New World Order is now using what most of us think of as the most hard-core of the patriot movements in order to carry out their agenda. LET ME SAY THAT IN DIFFERENT WORDS SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM GETTING ACROSS TO YOU:

The real patriot movements are getting so large, so powerful, so pervasive, that the New World Order has no choice but to fully hijack these movements if they are to carry out their planned Brave New World agendas. More specifically: the New World Order is going to make our Truth and Patriot movements their primary tools of operation to carry out Eugenics and so forth.

That’s my theory, and my prediction.

How, you might ask, will it all work? Well, if you want to get a revolt going, why not disclose false flag terror (such as Michael Savage started to do recently for the first time on his radio show where he foretold Obama’s upcoming Reichstag)? That sure would do it if the mass media went that far and all-at-once got this the real-ness of false flag terror into the minds of the sappy and unfocussed citizenry, shocking them to the core by totally upsetting their established belief system, all right when that citizenry was destitute, in a depression, filled with bird flu epidemic fears, with millions living tent cities, hungry and cold, and so on, as is most likely going to be the case this fall or winter. Was Savage’s recent comment a prelude to this?

It is quite obvious the New World Order is pushing for violence, as Alex Jones has been pointing out. The New World Order, through our city, state and Federal governments, is pushing the populace so hard now, more and more each day, with impossible taxation (who can pay all the taxes as we fall into massive depression?), with crazy new laws (banning home-schooling, etc.), police taserings, making home gardens illegal (just like the King in the book Robin Hood banned hunting deer), announcing that the bankers are robbing us, announcing that the government is not helping the economic crisis but is fuelling it (of course they don’t disclose all the details with this), and most importantly, getting ready to remove the Second Amendment and all of the Constitution. They are creating a system where we are not Americans, but where we are all living like the slaves on the plantations in the 1800s, where only revolt (violence) could follow, because it is being pre-planned, and our movements are going to be used to fuel the violent revolts, unless we wake up to this possibility and start discussing these issues with urgency. Don’t forget how quickly the Ron Paul Presidential run was hijacked!

So what does the New World Order want with all the rioting? Well, there are several things. Firstly, this is part of the New World Order’s religious festival: spread as much mayhem, panic, misery and pure blood chaos as possible—this is a ‘work of art’ to the New World Order; it is like listening to Beethoven to them. Some of you may find this difficult to understand, but they attain their religious experience by this “theater”, as they often call it (remember Iraq was called a “theater” around the time of Shock and Awe? Notice the word “Awe” there, also).

If you still have trouble believing this, then ask yourself a question: What is the New World Order waiting for in killing billions? They’ve had super technology to kill as many of us as they want to for decades. They are building up our numbers in order to slaughter us, because the slaughter itself is their art, their high, just like the ancient hallucinatory ballgame (the ‘pitzlawal’, as it’s called by the Maya) of death-entertainment was for the Mayan shaman kings, a little like the ancient Roman gladiator fights, and a lot like the carnage in Iraq. What is beautiful to the New World Order is a world of deformed, sickened, ultra-violent, unintelligent desperate people, like the Island of Dr. Moreau. That’s the religious festival of the New World Order, and the aforementioned rioting is a key issue involved. If we want to be free, to be kings of ourselves, we have to realize this, to know the enemy as best we can, or else we will just go along the pitzlawal we are all currently caught in. The way to be kings of ourselves is to become intelligent, knowledgeable, deeply and genuinely religious, and self-sufficient in the way the Indians used to be—that’s the sort of civil disobedience we need, and which Henry David Thoreau lived when he wrote his influenial book on civil disobedience.

Ok, so a New World Order religious festival is the first point of the rioting. Another is that the rioting is the way to transform the nation into a shock state, and thus bring about an entry of the Brave New World. The old world has to be destroyed in order to set up the new world, and that means that our minds, our memories, our ways of life, and our peaceful day-to-day lifestyles of American comfort, the security for our families, and so on, all have to be destroyed, sending us into a mass state of shock (“shock doctrine”). I think a lot of people in our movement are oblivious to this intention, this plan, this hijacking of our movement. But isn’t that what they always do?

So, what should we do? Do we panic and start fighting with all the other patriots and Truthers for every little thing we disagree over? I disagree with other Truthers about many ideas, so should I fight with them about that constantly? Or should I fight the enemy? We of course must focus on the fight. But what is the fight? The fight is the fight for truth. But what is the truth? The truth is what we can experience and see with our eyes, right in front of our face. And what we see is the destruction of the Constitution and of the nation we live in.

Excellent.   Wink Wink

And totally solid I think. 
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2009, 07:52:01 PM »

I knew they would try this,great post!
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2009, 08:02:51 PM »

Of course there will be attempts by humaity's enemies to infiltrate and coopt the freedom movement.  Glenn Beck is a perfect example of this being perpetrated in the elite media.  At the moment, this works in the freedom movement's favor since the freedom message is not currently allowed in the major media, and there are millions and millions of 9-to-5-ers who have no knowlege whatever of what the enemy is up to.  People like Glenn Beck are their only exposure to even a corrupted version of the freedom movement; so for these people what they hear from Beck is better than hearing nothing at all.  At least they're getting some limited and corrupted exposure to the truth.

What's important is that the movement itself stay close and true to the ideals of the founding fathers.  So long as they do, the trolls can do nothing but help the movement.  This is why it is vitally important for people interested in liberty to know and understand what the founders believed and implemented through the Constitution and Bill of Rights, what freedom and The Republic are actually all about.

THE CREED OF FREEDOM

INTRINSIC NATURE OF RIGHTS
     I believe that only individuals have rights, not the collective group; that these rights are intrinsic to each individual, not granted by the state; for if the state has the power to grant them, it also has the power to deny them, and that is incompatible with personal liberty.
     I believe that a just state derives its power solely from the governed. Therefore, the state must never presume to do anything beyond what individual citizens also have the right to do. Otherwise, the state is a power unto itself and becomes the master instead of the servant of society.

SUPREMACY OF THE INDIVIDUAL
     I believe that one of the greatest threats to freedom is to allow any group, no matter its numeric superiority, to deny the rights of the minority; and that one of the primary functions of a just state is to protect each individual from the creed and passion of the majority.

FREEDOM OF CHOICE
     I believe that desirable social and economic objectives are better achieved by voluntary action than by coercion of law. I believe that social tranquility and brotherhood are better achieved by tolerance, persuasion, and the power of good example than by coercion of law. I believe that those in need are better served by charity, which is the giving of one's own money, than by welfare, which is the giving of other people's money through coercion of law.

EQUALITY UNDER LAW
     I believe that all citizens should be equal under law, regardless of their national origin, race, religion, gender, education, economic status, life style, or political opinion. Likewise, no class should be given preferential treatment, regardless of the merit or popularity of its cause. To favor one class over another is not equality under law.

PROPER ROLE OF THE STATE
     I believe that the proper role of the state is negative, not positive; defensive, not aggressive. It is to protect, not to provide; for if the state is granted the power to provide for some, it must also be able to take from others, and that always leads to legalized plunder and loss of freedom. If the state can give us everything we want, it also must be powerful enough to take from us everything we have. Therefore, the proper function of the state is to serve as a protectorate in the defense of the lives, liberty, and property of its citizens, nothing more.


THE THREE COMMANDMENTS OF FREEDOM

The Creed of Freedom is based on five principles. However, in day-to-day application, they can be reduced to just three codes of conduct. These are The Three Commandments of Freedom:

INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS
Only individuals have rights, not groups. Therefore, do not sacrifice the rights of any individual or minority for the alleged rights of groups.

EQUALITY UNDER LAW
To favor one class of citizens over others is not equality under law. Therefore, do not endorse any law that does not apply to all citizens equally.

FREEDOM OF CHOICE
The proper function of the state is to protect, not to provide. Therefore, do not approve coercion for any purpose except to protect human life, liberty, or property


For more about this, read and explore:  http://www.freedom-force.org/freedom.cfm?fuseaction=creed



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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2009, 08:25:51 PM »

The New World Order Is Taking Over the Patriot and Truth Movements

http://www.infowars.com/the-new-world-order-is-taking-over-the-patriot-and-truth-movements/

 Excellent points we should all take to heart.
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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2009, 02:31:37 PM »



If the Entire world was consisted of Truthers - the NWO elite would look like this:

You have to realize IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE DIALECTIC IS AS LONG AS THEY CONTROL IT.

If Everyone in America becomes gun loving constitutional obeying truthers, they'd be right there.

They will do anything and appear as anyone as long as they are the leader.

And that is not what it is about - it is about sovereignty - you are created as such, and it cannot be taken away, it cannot be usurped.

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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2009, 11:15:02 PM »

There are some great posts here which I don't have time to read right now. But..
 
I went to the Tea Party in Atlanta at the State Capitol. It was a pathetic sight. No one I talked to had ever even heard of Alex Jones. And some of these people were Internet users, and some actually had a good grasp of Constitutional and American-history issues.
 
The really depressing thing was that it was a totally staged local corporate-media event. I've been to quite a few popular demonstrations over the war(s), the election fraud, Israeli barbarism and this and that human-rights issue. And, in all the demonstrations and popular rallies and press conferences, I've never seen the press there for the whole event, and I've rarely seen more than one media van and never seen more than a passing mention in the news coverage, if that. At this supposedly "grass roots" popular outpouring of outrage I counted more than a half dozen media vans on the side where I could get standing room -- and that was the slow side of the capitol. I'd guess there were at least another half dozen on the other side where they usually park for such events.
 
On the stage there were big corporate-media personalities and a big screen on which they were projected larger than life. There were several signs condemning CNN, but none doing the same for FOX or other media wh*res.
 
I got into some discussions with so-called "Fair Tax" people, who were scandalized by the suggestion that the Fair Tax might mean that ordinary poor and working people would be required to pick up the tax burden for David Rockefeller and Edward Bernacke (who now pay a higher tax rate, if only theoretically and on paper). Some people here might not agree with me that the so-called "Fair Tax" is a scam, but at least they don't go telling me that David Rockefeller will be required to pay more taxes on his yacht(s) and will be equally burdened on common household items like food. Imagine the percentage of his income Rockefeller pays for his meals. And does anyone here put 95+% of his income into income-earning, tax-sheltered investments? No questions like these bothered the people I talked to: in fact what bothered them was that I dared to bring such things up. The point I made that the great majority are under the taxation of the Fed's printing presses didn't even register; although I did notice some signs that referred to this printing-press inflation.
   
An overwhelming number of the signs I saw were mass-produced, commercial-quality signs like you see in the photos posted elsewhere on this topic. Most of the participants were bussed in from around the State (I don't know who paid for the busses or what the significance of this is). The crowd was, I'd say, possibly three or four times as great as for rallies organized by real grass-roots groups; and yet there was a much smaller police presence, really just token. I saw no SWAT-team uniforms or riot gear: only the regular Capitol police uniforms, and no military presence.
   
I was hoping to see some of the Ron Paul and 9/11 Truth people I know, but I didn't see any; possibly because I couldn't get through the side where I ended up, and the people were packed tightly together (some of our 9/11 group were talking the rally up in e-mails this week). I did see several people with Obama teeshirts, although this was a lily-white crowd.
 
My basic impression was that the attendees were a thoroughly ignorant and mentally dense bunch. There were a lot of football emblems in evidence on teeshirts and on the busses. This was the media-cultivated "Joe Sixpack" crowd: completely brainwashed and willing to be led by the nose. The American version of Mao's Red Guards. It was in this way a bit frightening, because usually I'm able to strike up a conversation about political corruption and media manipulation. None of these people had the slightest notion that there is any news coverage available to them outside the corporate media and corporate-media sites on the Internet.
   
I left early, but I was glad to have the opportunity to see the reality we face first-hand.
 
We have a lot of work to do!
 
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2009, 11:19:35 PM »

Oh, and another thing I forgot. It might or might not be significant.

There was no religious presence.
No pastors and no deference to the Almighty.
 
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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2009, 11:21:21 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2009, 12:11:04 AM »

never been a tea-bagger.  never will be.

what a scam!
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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2009, 01:59:20 AM »

I went to the OKC tea party, and I couldn't stand it. I left within the first 30 minutes. For a "tea party" there certainly were a lot of kool aid drinkers.  On my way there, I heard Limbaugh say that people are protesting because Obama is taking away their security.  WTF? That has nothing to do with it. It's about over spending, and over taxation. It was all a bunch of Party-line republicans, and racist dixiecrats. Some how, somebody hijacked the tax protest, and turned it into an Obama protest. Not that Obama deserves support, but to focus on him is to miss the root of the problem entirely.  Obama's but a fingernail of the problem. If the oligarchs and Bankers that put him in the white house felt that his death would help them get more power, they'd assassinate him without a second thought. This tea party was a joke. I could tell the moment they started with the pledge of allegience. How could you honestly expect the world to take your anti-tyranny protest seriously when you start by pledging allegience to the thing you're protesting? 
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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2009, 02:04:01 AM »

s'okay,

the names of those who forcefully opposed the Freedom Movement have already been noted (whether they change sides now or not) there should be no mercy.

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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2009, 02:22:03 AM »

s'okay,

the names of those who forcefully opposed the Freedom Movement have already been noted (whether they change sides now or not) there should be no mercy.



There should always be mercy Mike.
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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2009, 05:53:13 AM »

I was just thinking..............This is free media time for us.  We could use this, if we are organized enough, to promote the ideas of freedom and patriotism. 

We all know that the masses are brainwashed and "stupid", so we can use the tools of the trade to help spread our word.  We could say, look at the large number of people that turned out to the taxation protests, this must be something huge that you all will want to be a part of.  We can stage more protests, ones of freedom and truth, and get large turnouts now because the masses saw this large group of people turn out for the tea party, even though it was staged.  We must keep the presses rolling though.  If we let the flame go out, people will pay no mind.

I know that the PTB like to use us, but if they are using us while we are using them, we benefit more and come that much closer to winning our freedoms back.

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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2009, 06:09:12 AM »

Yeah, if we keep using such events to distribute DVDs, more and more people might be able to break the left/right paradigm.
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