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« on: April 08, 2009, 04:54:06 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 05:11:41 PM »

You can tell Mr. Frank isn’t used to handling these types of questions.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2009, 05:15:23 PM »

Barney was confused, hes not used to seeing young men with clothes on.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2009, 05:15:33 PM »

You can tell Mr. Frank isn’t used to handling these types of questions.

If Mr. Frank can truly not handle such a simple question, why is he trusted to allow $12 Trillion in new taxes to be created out of thin air in less than 6 months?

Maybe a little history of Argentina can help answer that question: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4353655982817317115&hl=en
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2009, 05:15:51 PM »

Man, this guy is Elmer Fudd.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2009, 05:16:40 PM »

Barney was confused, hes not used to seeing young men with clothes on.

Nor is he used to them asking financial questions other than: "Will that be cash or charge?"
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2009, 05:20:03 PM »

I think he let the cat out of the bag. It was the chairman of the "federal reserve" What he is saying is the federal reserve makes all the decisions.!
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2009, 05:24:21 PM »

The kid should have asked him why he was in bed with Fannie Mae.  Wink

Lawmaker Accused of Fannie Mae Conflict of Interest
Friday , October 03, 2008
By Bill Sammon - FOXNews

WASHINGTON — Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefitted from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s.

So did Frank’s partner, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency’s push to relax lending restrictions.

Now that Fannie Mae is at the epicenter of a financial meltdown that threatens the U.S. economy, some are raising new questions about Frank’s relationship with Herb Moses, who was Fannie’s assistant director for product initiatives. Moses worked at the government-sponsored enterprise from 1991 to 1998, while Frank was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie.

Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest. Critics, however, remain skeptical.

“It’s absolutely a conflict,” said Dan Gainor, vice president of the Business & Media Institute. “He was voting on Fannie Mae at a time when he was involved with a Fannie Mae executive. How is that not germane?

“If this had been his ex-wife and he was Republican, I would bet every penny I have - or at least what’s not in the stock market - that this would be considered germane,” added Gainor, a T. Boone Pickens Fellow. “But everybody wants to avoid it because he’s gay. It’s the quintessential double standard.”

A top GOP House aide agreed.

“C’mon, he writes housing and banking laws and his boyfriend is a top exec at a firm that stands to gain from those laws?” the aide told FOX News. “No media ever takes note? Imagine what would happen if Frank’s political affiliation was R instead of D? Imagine what the media would say if [GOP former] Chairman [Mike] Oxley’s wife or [GOP presidential nominee John] McCain’s wife was a top exec at Fannie for a decade while they wrote the nation’s housing and banking laws.”

Frank’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Frank met Moses in 1987, the same year he became the first openly gay member of Congress.

“I am the only member of the congressional gay spouse caucus,” Moses wrote in the Washington Post in 1991. “On Capitol Hill, Barney always introduces me as his lover.”

The two lived together in a Washington home until they broke up in 1998, a few months after Moses ended his seven-year tenure at Fannie Mae, where he was the assistant director of product initiatives. According to National Mortgage News, Moses “helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs.”

Critics say such programs led to the mortgage meltdown that prompted last month’s government takeover of Fannie Mae and its financial cousin, Freddie Mac. The giant firms are blamed for spreading bad mortgages throughout the private financial sector.

Although Frank now blames Republicans for the failure of Fannie and Freddie, he spent years blocking GOP lawmakers from imposing tougher regulations on the mortgage giants. In 1991, the year Moses was hired by Fannie, the Boston Globe reported that Frank pushed the agency to loosen regulations on mortgages for two- and three-family homes, even though they were defaulting at twice and five times the rate of single homes, respectively.

Three years later, President Clinton’s Department of Housing and Urban Development tried to impose a new regulation on Fannie, but was thwarted by Frank. Clinton now blames such Democrats for planting the seeds of today’s economic crisis.

“I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,” Clinton said recently.

Bill Sammon is FOX News’ Washington Deputy Managing Editor.

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2009, 06:01:09 PM »


Nah, ya know it just seems to get more and more bizare, what truly sukkks is that these maggots get away with it.

Not a peep out of Oby. But then again who would expect him to find a drop of integrity.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2009, 06:31:53 PM »

if Barney wanted to answer the question, he would have answered it.

the student was asking for information about what Frank did to stop the
fraud on Wall Street.

nothing, i guess.
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2009, 06:37:23 PM »

I dunno....I think Frank handed that kid his ass on a plate(no puns intended).  I like how his girlfriend jumped up to try to bail him out, embarrassing. Did you all notice that Frank ultimately points the finger at the federal reserve stating that congress didn't have the power to interfere with their actions? I believe that's similar to the viewpoint of most around here. An out of control fed.

In any case what's that kid gonna do once he gets out of law school? Sign up for a position on the same gravy train that he's currently pretending to oppose as a "conservative".

In regard to Barney's overly effiminate baron harkkonen mannerism....well there's no real defending that....
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2009, 06:42:36 PM »

I dunno....I think Frank handed that kid his ass on a plate(no puns intended).  I like how his girlfriend jumped up to try to bail him out, embarrassing. Did you all notice that Frank ultimately points the finger at the federal reserve stating that congress didn't have the power to interfere with their actions? I believe that's similar to the viewpoint of most around here. An out of control fed.

In any case what's that kid gonna do once he gets out of law school? Sign up for a position on the same gravy train that he's currently pretending to oppose as a "conservative".

In regard to Barney's overly effiminate baron harkkonen mannerism....well there's no real defending that....

"Frank handed that kid his ass on a plate"

You do realize that was an 18 year old college student asking a 20+ year congressman a simple question don't you?

Are you part of the disinfo brigade that showed up when John Kerry's Skull and Bones' buddies' women in blue tortured a college student for asking a question?

What is with the "talking points" defending congressmen for torturing and ridiculing inquisitive college students?

I mean they are nearly identical.
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2009, 06:44:19 PM »

B. Frank, agreed he lost his mind, to add before this episode he lost his soul and whatever trace of humanity he may have had.
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2009, 06:45:00 PM »

Owning Barney Frank is like kicking a puppy.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2009, 06:52:34 PM »

It seemed to me that he has been lying to himself so long he don't even know the truth, about his actions, he blocks it out so he can live with himself. I am sure He had his pen ready to give his signature to anything put in front of him by his masters.The federal reserve.
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2009, 07:19:52 PM »

I love how he exposes that his only defense of anything is categorizing others.

A Tavistock trained puppet if there ever was one.

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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2009, 07:37:51 PM »

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You do realize that was an 18 year old college student asking a 20+ year congressman a simple question don't you?

A question that he answered, albeit in his typical goofy manner. What did the kid expect when he asked a framed question like that? Any response Frank would have given except outright rejecting the question (which is what he did) would have signaled significant responsibility for the crisis. If I asked you "Which puppy did you feel least guilty about murdering?" you'd be stupid for responding "Last time I watched one die I felt guilty". That's what happened here. Frank picked up on this dudes set up fast and took him down. You probably get good at that 20+ years in congress. That kid had better get a lot better at debate if he wants to survive in a courtroom as a lawyer, where his girlfriend wont be there to back him up.

And after all that Frank flat out said that the real issue was that the federal reserve was unaccountable to congress! What more of an admission of where the real problem is do you want? That was brutally honest.  Why would you castigate a politician for coming out and saying something so relevant and truthful? I don't get it.

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Are you part of the disinfo brigade that showed up when John Kerry's Skull and Bones' buddies' women in blue tortured a college student for asking a question?

That's unfair to me. This statement is the equivalent of a messageboard taser, especially coming from an admin. Don't taser ME, bro.

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What is with the "talking points" defending congressmen for torturing and ridiculing inquisitive college students?
I mean they are nearly identical.

Yeah they're identical except for this guy wasn't tortured with electricity, kind of a big difference. Well and that the question didn't involve secret societies. Well and that the politician did respond to the question. Actually come to think of it, they're not identical at all.

The only talking points involved are that students repeated Rush Limbaugh junk. If there was a defend Barney memo that went out, I missed it. From where I sit all liberal energies seem to be devoted to the big O. I think that you know this to be true.

In conclusion, I'm not the one defending elitism. This kid was at Harvard Law school, equally elitist as Yale. What he was on about was false left-right info-tainment trash. If you really think this kids who you want to be standing with consider his quote from the fox interview:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513182,00.html
"Well, to be fair, some of the people who preceded asked some fairly crazy questions. We had a 9/11 conspiracy theorist there and some of the LaRouche people...."  
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2009, 08:07:44 PM »

The only defense he can muster is to say the "federal reserve told congress what they were going to do...They didn't ask us." This goes right along with Greenspan saying that so long as the president and congress understand that the fed makes all the rules then the relationship they have doesn't matter. There are two bills in congress right now that need attention. One is to audit the fed and the other is to repeal the federal reserve act. I hope everyone on the forum writes, calls, and e-mails their respective representatives to voice their support for these bills. As long as the fed rules, we apparently don't even need government as far as their concerned. I also love the fact that he tried to turn it into "another right wing attack". The left/right connundrum is nothing more than a distraction from the real issues that affect us all. Left or right, both wings are attached to the same bird.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2009, 08:48:13 PM »

A question that he answered, albeit in his typical goofy manner. What did the kid expect when he asked a framed question like that? Any response Frank would have given except outright rejecting the question (which is what he did) would have signaled significant responsibility for the crisis. If I asked you "Which puppy did you feel least guilty about murdering?" you'd be stupid for responding "Last time I watched one die I felt guilty". That's what happened here. Frank picked up on this dudes set up fast and took him down. You probably get good at that 20+ years in congress. That kid had better get a lot better at debate if he wants to survive in a courtroom as a lawyer, where his girlfriend wont be there to back him up.

And after all that Frank flat out said that the real issue was that the federal reserve was unaccountable to congress! What more of an admission of where the real problem is do you want? That was brutally honest.  Why would you castigate a politician for coming out and saying something so relevant and truthful? I don't get it.

That's unfair to me. This statement is the equivalent of a messageboard taser, especially coming from an admin. Don't taser ME, bro.

Yeah they're identical except for this guy wasn't tortured with electricity, kind of a big difference. Well and that the question didn't involve secret societies. Well and that the politician did respond to the question. Actually come to think of it, they're not identical at all.

The only talking points involved are that students repeated Rush Limbaugh junk. If there was a defend Barney memo that went out, I missed it. From where I sit all liberal energies seem to be devoted to the big O. I think that you know this to be true.

In conclusion, I'm not the one defending elitism. This kid was at Harvard Law school, equally elitist as Yale. What he was on about was false left-right info-tainment trash. If you really think this kids who you want to be standing with consider his quote from the fox interview:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513182,00.html
"Well, to be fair, some of the people who preceded asked some fairly crazy questions. We had a 9/11 conspiracy theorist there and some of the LaRouche people...."  

All very good points (although I hardly agree with many of them-especially the taser analogy-rather over the top dramatic).  And for the most important one about Barney Frank answering the question seems so completely wrong after reviewing the video a few more times.  A transcript of this would be very helpful, can anyone assist? Also placing blame on the student is again telling as the same thing was done with the kerry torture incident. The kid does not push for laws that rape the American people of all wealth, but Frank does. Demonizing the student because Frank cannot confront reality is very similar to the Kerry torture incident.

Actually, I will agree that he outs the Fed on a very limited basis. The initial $85 Billion to AIG, but he then acts like the bailout just was forced on him.  That is bullshit and AIG also received huge amounts of TARP money. Also the bailout bill is not about bailout but annexing of companies by the Secretary of Treasury and then running them into the ground or selling them to international banks for pennies.  Barney spearheaded the debates. This was not a Bush bill, Bush pushed it so he would not get impeached.  GOP led the fight against it.  And Barney has been f**king over the taxpayer with his involvement with Freddie and Fannie for at least a decade.  He was not masterful at anything but showing what a complete piece of shit he is.

But thanks for bringing this up again because Barney not only freaked the f**k out but he also blamed the fed.

time for a title change.

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"You are talking about the Sub Prime Crisis" - No, the DERIVATIVE CRISIS YOU ASSHAT.

"In 2006 the Republican Chairman of the SEC tried to get control of hedge funds blah blah blah blah Public Housing" " I filed a bill" Blah blah i am a criminal controlled by George Soros and i refuse to mention the word DERIVATIVE DERIVATIVE DERIVATIVE

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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2009, 07:16:29 AM »

Media Mum on Barney Frank's Fannie Mae Love Connection
Democratic House Financial Services Committee Chair promoted GSEs while former 'spouse' was Fannie Mae executive.
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By Jeff Poor Business & Media Institute 9/24/2008 4:00:57 PM

     Are journalists playing favorites with some of the key political figures involved with regulatory oversight of U.S. financial markets?

     MSNBC’s Chris Matthews launched several vitriolic attacks on the Republican Party on his Sept. 17, 2008, show, suggesting blame for Wall Street problems should be focused in a partisan way. However, he and other media have failed to thoroughly examine the Democratic side of the blame game.

     Prominent Democrats ran Fannie Mae, the same government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) that donated campaign cash to top Democrats. And one of Fannie Mae’s main defenders in the House – Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., a recipient of more than $40,000 in campaign donations from Fannie since 1989 – was once romantically involved with a Fannie Mae executive.

     The media coverage of Frank’s coziness with Fannie Mae and his pro-Fannie Mae stances has been lacking. Of the eight appearances Frank made on the three broadcasts networks between Jan. 1, 2008, and Sept. 21, 2008, none of his comments dealt with the potential conflicts of interest. Only six of the appearances dealt with the economy in general and two of those appearances, including an April 6, 2008 appearance on CBS’s “60 Minutes” were about his opposition to a manned mission to Mars.

     Frank has argued that family life “should be fair game for campaign discussion,” wrote the Associated Press on Sept. 2. The comment was in reference to GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin and her pregnant daughter. “They’re the ones that made an issue of her family,” the Massachusetts Democrat said to the AP.

     The news media have covered the relationship in the past, but there have been no mentions since 2005, according to Nexis and despite the collapse of Fannie Mae. The July 3, 1998, Reliable Source column in The Washington Post reported Frank, who is openly gay, had a relationship with Herb Moses, an executive for the now-government controlled Fannie Mae. The column revealed the two had split up at the time but also said Frank was referring to Moses as his “spouse.” Another Washington Post report said Frank called Moses his “lover” and that the two were “still friends” after the breakup.

     Frank was and remains a stalwart defender of Fannie Mae, which is now under FBI investigation along with its sister organization Freddie Mac, American International Group Inc. (NYSE:AIG) and Lehman Brothers (NYSE:LEH) – all recently participants in government bailouts. But Frank has derailed efforts to regulate the institution, as well as denying it posed any financial risk. Frank’s office has been unresponsive to efforts by the Business & Media Institute to comment on these potential conflicts of interest.

     While the relationship reportedly ended 10 years ago, Frank was serving on the House Banking Committee the entire 10 years they were together. The committee is the primary House body which along with the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) has jurisdiction over the government-sponsored enterprises.

     He has served on the committee since becoming a congressman in 1981 and became the ranking Democrat on the committee in 2003. He became chairman of the committee, now called the House Financial Services Committee, in 2007.

     Moses was the assistant director for product initiatives at Fannie Mae and had been at the forefront of relaxing lending restrictions at the company for rural customers, according to the Feb. 23, 1998, issue of National Mortgage News (NMN).

     “Herb Moses, who helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs, has left the mortgage industry,” Darryl Hicks wrote for NMN.  “Mr. Moses - whose last day was Feb. 13 - spent the past seven years at Fannie Mae, most recently as director of housing initiatives. Over the course of time, he played an instrumental role in developing the company’s Title One and 203(k) home improvement lending programs.”

     Hicks explained in his story how Moses orchestrated a collaborative effort between Fannie Mae and the Department of Agriculture.

     “The Dartmouth grad also played a crucial role in brokering a relationship between Fannie Mae and the Department of Agriculture,” Hicks wrote. “This led to the creation of Fannie Mae’s rural housing program where the secondary marketing agency agreed to purchase small farm loans insured through the department.”

     While Moses served at Fannie Mae and was Frank’s partner, Frank was actively working to support GSEs, according to several news outlets.

     In 1991, Frank and former Rep. Joe Kennedy, D-Mass., lobbied for Fannie to soften rules on multi-family home mortgages although those dwellings showed a default rate twice that of single-family homes, according to the Nov. 22, 1991, Boston Globe.

     BusinessWeek reported in its Nov. 14, 1994, issue that Fannie Mae called on Frank to exert his influence against a Housing & Urban Development proposal that would force the GSE to focus on minority and low-income buyers and police bias by lenders regardless of their location. Fannie Mae opposed HUD on the issue because it claimed doing so would “ignore the urban middle class.”

     Moses left Fannie in 1998 to start his own pottery business. National Mortgage News called Moses a “mortgage guru” and said he developed “many of Fannie Mae's affordable housing and home improvement lending programs. Moses ended his relationship with Frank just months after he left Fannie.

     Even after the relationship ended, however, Frank was a staunch defender of Fannie Mae even as other experts suggested there were serious problems building in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

     According to an article by Kathleen Day in the Oct. 8, 2003, Washington Post, Frank opposed giving the Bush administration the right to approve or disapprove business activities that “could pose risk to the taxpayers.” He told the Post he worried the Treasury Department “would sacrifice activities that are good for consumers in the name of lowering the companies’ market risks.”

     Just a month before, Frank had aggressively thwarted reform efforts by the Bush administration. He told The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2003, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s problems were “exaggerated,” a gross miscalculation some five years later with costs estimated to be in the hundreds of billions.

     “These two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” Frank said to the Times. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

     Frank has also reaped campaign contribution benefits from Fannie Mae and its counterpart Freddie Mac. According a front page story in the Sept. 19, 2008, Investor’s Business Daily by Terry Jones, Frank has received $40,100 in campaign cash over the past two decades from the GSEs.

     Frank is ranked 16th on a list that includes both houses of Congress and fifth among his colleagues in the House. According to data from the Center for Responsive Politics’ OpenSecrets.org, political action committees financed by both Freddie and Fannie have contributed $3,017,797 to members of Congress since 1989. And according to the July 16 issue of Politico, the two entities have spent a whopping $200 million to buy influence – including not only campaign donations to members of Congress, but also presidential campaigns and lobbying efforts.

     In a July 23 op-ed, Wall Street Journal Editorial Page Editor Paul Gigot put the blame for the GSEs’ collapse firmly on the members of the liberal establishment who took money from Freddie and Fannie. “Fan and Fred also couldn't prosper for as long as they have without the support of the political left... This includes Mr. Frank and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) on Capitol Hill, as well as Mr. [Paul] Krugman and the Washington Post's Steven Pearlstein in the press.”

     Frank was asked by CNN’s John Roberts on the Sept. 22, 2008 “American Morning” about this and his opposition to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Originally, he claimed he didn’t think the two GSEs were facing any problems when the issue first surfaced in 2003. He instead blamed the Republican-controlled Congress for their ultimate fall, failing to mention his friendly relationship with Fannie Mae and the contributions it had made to his campaign over the years.

      “Yes, I did not think we were facing a crisis in 2003, but that didn't mean we didn't have to have reform,” an animated Frank said when confronted with the question. “Here’s the deal, the Republicans controlled Congress from 1995 through 2006. They did zero to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.”

     However, on Sept. 17, 2008, former Bush administration Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove elaborated on the Bush administration’s efforts to curb abuses at the two GSEs in 2003. He told Fox News’ “Hannity & Colmes” that Frank was among the most aggressive opponents of White House attempts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

     “All of this bad stuff on Wall Street happened because people got greedy and the greed started at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,” Rove said. “And I know this because five years ago, the administration was alerted by the regulator, James Lockhart, that there was insufficient authority and that these institutions – particularly Fannie – were out of control.”

     Rove said the Bush administration’s efforts to reform Fannie and Freddie were opposed by congressional Democrats – specifically Frank and Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, D-Conn.

     “And I got to tell you, for five years, I was part of an effort at the White House to fight this and our biggest opponents on the Hill who blocked this every step of the way were people like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. And Fannie and Freddie are the $200 billion contagion at the center of this.”

      Frank has been quick to blame deregulation for some of the problems in the financial environment, as he did on Bloomberg television’s Sept. 19 “Political Capital with Al Hunt.” However, as earmark crusader Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz. pointed out – it’s not deregulation, but it was the structure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that had been guarded by Frank and other members of Congress.

     “Some people point at deregulation,” Flake said to the Business & Media Institute on Sept. 23. “It’s not deregulation at all. We have for far too long shielded Fannie and Freddie for example, with the implicit and now explicit guarantee. I just found it humorous.”

     Flake specifically named Frank as one of the members behind letting allegations of transgressions at the two GSEs for slipping by without oversight from Congress.
 
     “Just a few minutes ago, a reporter was asking me about this and saying, ‘Barney Frank is saying that’s just – because there were allegations,’ correct ones – ‘that Fannie and Freddie have been the playground for politicians for years and now the other side is saying Fannie and Freddie were just a small part of this and this goes far beyond.’ It does, but these same people a couple of weeks ago said, ‘You got to bail out Fannie and Freddie because they touch everything out there. They touch nearly every mortgage out there.’ And because of that explicit guarantee – that we would come and bail them out, nobody has been subject to market discipline.”

     Frank claims differently, according to a letter to the editor published in the Sept. 17, 2008 Wall Street Journal.  Frank noted that in 2005 he supported regulating compensation for Fannie and Freddie executives.

     “In fact, my reform efforts had begun when we were still in the minority. In 2005, I joined Michael Oxley, then chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, in supporting legislation to increase the regulation of Fannie and Freddie that passed the House by a vote of 330 to 90,” Frank wrote. “When former Congressman Richard Baker proposed to examine the compensation structure of Fannie and Freddie's top executives, and some members of Congress tried to block him, I explicitly spoke out in support of his right to do that and our right, as a Congress, to examine the GSE’s compensation practices.”

     The red flags were raised long before the government bailed out the two GSEs in August 2008. The first egregious scandal involving Fannie Mae occurred in 2004. A 2004 Wall Street Journal editorial was first to point out claims in an OFHEO report that showed accounting malpractices by the GSE.

     “For years, mortgage giant Fannie Mae has produced smoothly growing earnings. And for years, observers have wondered how Fannie could manage its inherently risky portfolio without a whiff of volatility, the Oct. 4, 2004, editorial, “Fannie Mae Enron?” said. “Now, thanks to Fannie’s regulator, we know the answer. The company was cooking the books. Big time.”
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2009, 07:21:13 AM »

Barney Frank is EXPOSED on Fannie Regulation in 2003
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_9Jrgo5E2Y


Barney's Frank his Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSIlUpoUdls


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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2009, 09:56:26 AM »

Clearly the student should have been tazed and drug out of the room for asking such tough questions to our overlords.   Roll Eyes

Seriously though, Barney is nothing more than a self enriching scum bag, much like 99% of the rest of our Gov't, who feels he owes no one an answer of truth.  I say...... Mr. Frank, YOU'RE FIRED, and take that bitch Pelosi with you on your way out the door.
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2009, 10:35:49 AM »

Organized crime.

You are all aware I'm sure that the Mafia upholds a a tradition, making bones, or the first kill.
Once this is accomplished under orders, the man is labeled- a made man. he is therfor protected to a degree, has shown his allegiance, verified his loyalty , and above all has info on him that could put him away.

My take on our present regime runs parrellell to this tradition. The majority of these parasites have committed crimes beyond our scope of reality. Be it murder, drug running, embezelment, payoffs, sex slavery, flagrant homosexuality, child abuse, whatever.

It seems to me once they have crossed the line into criminal activity they are given the key to the door of power. They have proven that they are unconscieable, and criminaly bent power mongers. Sociopaths, that will do anything to further their aims. As long as they go by the rules, keep their mouths shut about others criminal acts, they are within the perimaters of safety.

Hands blooded, yes, Pakistan comes to mind, so does Obmama. He is a made man.

Barney, known homosexual, close encounters of criminal prosecution due to this. No problem he's protected, hes a pol, he dances for the FED. he obeys his masters. HE IS PRoTECTED..As with the many Pols now running this once great nation, they must earn their right to be in the circle, they must be sociopaths.
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2009, 05:34:25 PM »

Sane,

The article I linked to has a partial transcript, however it leaves out the last part where Frank "fingers" the fed. But it is fox news so what do you expect?

I stick to my original statement that if you actually listen to the interchange you have to admit that Frank "spanked this kid" in public. The thing about him being "tied to Fannie" and Freddy is probably true. The real sad thing is that people knew these guys were cooking books 3 years ago and NO ONE on the right or left did squat about it. Even post enron age, there was to much money in the corruption to do anything about it. Of course now these same people are telling us it's just spilled milk. Apart from using it as a political prop, they still don't want to touch it.

OK enough about Barney Frank every other sentence sounds lewd just because his name is in it.....   

 
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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2009, 11:54:31 AM »

When the Fed tells Congress what they are going to do and if they don't agree then they will threaten the country with martial law, that tells you who is in power. Why are we even arguing about this? You know who's doing this! I say we need to get together with people from every state and throw these bastards out of power and declare the Fed defunct once and for all. we need to get our country back,sitting around at f**king tea parties isn't going to phase these assholes, not when they control the miltiary and the National Guard. The Fed tells the govt what to do, and they do it or else we get martial law declared on us overnight.
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