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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2009, 07:28:00 AM »

hey i dont care what idea yall finalize all i know is im in.
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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2009, 07:56:39 AM »

Should I?


Yep, because a corrupt system is the technical glitch.
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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2009, 12:46:01 PM »

Yep, because a corrupt system is the technical glitch.

then that's treason?

you walk the knife edge, you're a criminal (no matter what side of the law you're walking from)

no?
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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2009, 12:53:20 PM »

ARREST THE BANKING ELITE OFFICIAL THREAD

Post your non-violent ideas for arresting the banking elite here!

Do we sit on our butts and let them roll over the world?

Or do we put our heads together and take care of business?


Do we have names and specific crimes?

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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2009, 12:58:50 PM »



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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2009, 01:40:43 PM »

then that's treason?

you walk the knife edge, you're a criminal (no matter what side of the law you're walking from)

no?

I've personally known nothing OTHER than treason, when it comes to The Establishment. They even admit their impending treason while on the campaign trail.
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« Reply #46 on: July 30, 2009, 08:44:49 PM »

Love this video!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xpKONxfKN8
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« Reply #47 on: July 30, 2009, 09:00:03 PM »


Note the smiling onlookers... they think it's all cute.

(but dam those We Are Change folk are awesome!)
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« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2009, 06:11:59 PM »

How can anyone fight against legalized organized crime? The elite are robbing the American population via legal, political, social, medical, financial, corporate, governmental, police and media control. They have the money and the power to do whatever they want. If you disagree with them they will put you on a terrorist list and will gang stalk you all your life. Whether you are on the list or not they are constantly listening in to your phone conversations and reading your email hoping to find a petty reason to put you on their list. Think of all the private un-copyrighted material from inventors, artiists, writers, musicians, politicans, etc. that they have access to via this unchecked power. Whose to say someone isn't stealing that information and copyrighting it for themselves to make more money to use to promote their agendas? Think of the fear they instill into people to obey. Think of all the fat dumbed down population that will never wake up to whats happening around them until its too late.
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« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2009, 06:54:37 AM »

Bernanke's Remedy: Pump More Blood Into a Corpse

By Mike Whitney

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23639.htm

October 05, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- Credit is everything. Without credit expansion there's no recovery because there's no pick-up in overall demand. But credit growth is going backwards. The banks have tightened lending standards and the pool of credit-worthy applicants has vanished. Bank lending is off 14 per cent since October 2008. Private credit is presently decreasing at a 10.5 per cent annual rate. The situation is getting worse, not better.

From the UK Telegraph:

"Both bank credit and the M3 money supply in the United States have been contracting at rates comparable to the onset of the Great Depression since early summer, raising fears of a double-dip recession in 2010 and a slide into debt-deflation...

“Similar concerns have been raised by David Rosenberg, chief strategist at Gluskin Sheff, who said that over the four weeks up to August 24, bank credit shrank at an ‘epic’ 9pc annual pace, the M2 money supply shrank at 12.2pc and M1 shrank at 6.5pc.

"’For the first time in the post-Second World War era, we have deflation in credit, wages and rents and, from our lens, this is a toxic brew,’he said. (Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, "US credit shrinks at Great Depression rate prompting fears of double-dip recession", UK Telegraph)

Foreclosures, delinquencies and defaults are all up. Foreclosure activity is currently at 300,000-plus per month and rising. A huge shadow inventory is being kept off-market to maintain prices. The drip, drip, drip-effect of excess inventory dumped onto the market will keep housing in the doldrums for a decade. Homeowners are unable to borrow on underwater homes. Everything points to a long-term slump in spending.

Corporations are finding it harder to roll over their debt, bank loans are defaulting at a historic pace, and commercial real estate is imploding. Credit destruction is unprecedented, massive and ongoing. The capital hole is bigger than the Fed and bigger than the Treasury. It can't be plugged with liquidity alone.



For now, the government can fiddle GDP with $800 billion infusion of stimulus, but what happens when the political will for more deficit spending dissipates? What happens when foreign investors demand the Fed stop writing checks on an overdrawn account?

The Fed has fixed nothing. The banks are still underwater, output is at record lows, and unemployment is climbing towards 10 per cent. Fed chair Ben Bernanke's multi-trillion dollar rescue programs have kept a wobbly system upright, but nothing more. The economy's underlying problems are still the same. The Fed's quantitative easing (monetization) program has sent stocks surging, but done nothing to stimulate the economy. That's because equities bubbles have negligible impact on aggregate demand; there's no knock-on effect. The real economy is still flatlining while Wall Street parties on. Bernanke's plan has been a total wash.

The government cannot deficit spend forever. Eventually, GDP will have to depend on wage growth and credit expansion. Given the political and institutional bias against labor, (and opposition to wages that rise with productivity) the only way to fuel the economy is through credit growth. And there's the rub. Households have lost nearly $14 trillion in wealth since the crisis began and are in no position to resume borrowing at pre-crisis levels. Consumers are cutting back on spending and paying down debt. They have no other choice.

This is from Bloomberg News:

"Americans plan to refrain from boosting their spending even after the biggest drop in consumption since 1980, signaling concern about the direction of the economy over the next six months.

“Only 8 per cent of U.S. adults plan to increase household spending, almost one-third will spend less, and 58 per cent expect to ‘stay the course,’ a Bloomberg News poll showed. More than 3 in 4 said they reduced spending in the past year.

“Underscoring consumers’ austere attitudes, 77 per cent of respondents said they have cut back on spending during the past year, 59 percent said they have made a bigger effort to pay off debts and 48 percent have put more money aside as savings." (Bloomberg News)

Savings are up and spending is down. The economy is headed into a long-term funk; the "new normal". The Fed's sleight-of-hand programs and Obama's stimulus elixir haven't changed the prevailing downward trend. If anything, they have made matters worse. Consider this from Janet Tavakoli, author of "Dear Mr. Buffett" in an interview with Max Keiser:

"Regarding the outlook, my analysis is grim. I am not a doomsayer, I follow the cash, and so far, I’ve been correct, and the government has been wrong. Here’s the situation. We are at greater risk of a total meltdown due to a deflationary collapse than we were in 2007. After the greatest Ponzi scheme in the history of the capital markets, we’ve seen history’s greatest fiscal and monetary expansion, but it hasn’t worked. Debt levels of consumers and business exceed the capacity to repay." (Janet Tavakoli On The Edge With Max Keiser)

The Fed has done nothing to restructure the financial system so the same problems which killed Lehman and thrust the global economy into a tailspin, persist today. When the stimulus runs out and the Fed ends its $1.25 trillion purchase of (Fannie and Freddie) mortgage-backed securities and $300 billion in US Treasuries, interest rates will rise, housing prices will tumble, and the economy will nosedive. Bernanke will be forced back to the printing presses, the only hope for reversing the deflationary spiral. This will trigger the next crisis, a run on the dollar.

This is from an article by Alice Schroeder of Bloomberg News:

"In all the talk of inflation because the Treasury is printing so much money versus deflation because it may not print enough, there is one type of inflation that is rarely discussed. This is the mega-inflation caused by a sudden currency devaluation. Currency is like any financial innovation, an obligation secured by assets. When the obligation is perceived to have increased far beyond the level justifiable by the assets, which in this case make up a country’s economy, a bubble has formed......Right now, the American economy is worth less than the value implied by the market value of its obligations." (Gold Tells You U.S. Bubble Hasn’t Popped Yet: Alice Schroeder, Bloomberg)

The system crashed because it was built on the false assumption that an unregulated shadow banking system could generate an infinite amount of credit without sufficient capital. This proved to be wrong. Capitalism requires capital. The trillions of dollars in loans, complex debt-instruments, off-balance sheet operations and derivatives contracts were all stacked atop a tiny scrap of capital which eventually collapsed beneath the weight of the debt. This system (securitization) which created the mess, cannot be restored. It required a strong currency, artificially low interest rates, and credulous investors who were unaware of the inherent risks of illiquid assets. Those conditions no longer exist, nor have they for more than two years. Even so, the Fed continues to pump blood into a corpse hoping for some fleeting sign of life. This is why an even bigger crisis cannot be too far off.   

 

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« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2009, 11:17:58 PM »

Arrest them, put them in prison and make them live w/o air conditioning or heating for the rest of their lives.
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« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2009, 09:06:13 AM »

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« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2009, 10:35:13 AM »

Just for discussion here, how complicit is the average teller for the crimes of the institution? Not at all of course, but really, are these people totally oblivious to what their job is? I told them I dont have an account at my anymore because all they do is take my money, and they look at me like im crazy, and tell me i would save money if i had an account again. BULLS**T!!
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« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2012, 03:23:04 AM »

Arresting a few bankers, while good in hindsight does not change the nature of the system that is centralized, with all power, influence, and structured in a way to maintain such power. We have had more than a dozen major empires that have risen and fallen, and they all have repeated the same processes with the exception that modern deception has become more stealth-like in its nature.

You want to bring down a bank? Stop supporting them. Stop getting into debt. Stop doing any transaction whether directly or through association with a bank. Stop getting into mortgages, credit cards, and personal loans.

Banks nowadays are based on what is known as leverage, and this is the ultimate source of both their strength and their weakness.

Banks, like all corporations rely on consistent growth and are setup in such a way to expect it.

Think of what would happen if your local Wal-Mart didn't make any sales for a day. What about even an hour?

Now think about what would happen if people stopped spending money they don't have and creating un-necessary debt. If a bank has no deposits, it can't make any loans. Every deposit it loses means 9 or even more dollars of loans it can make. Every transaction it does with a merchant and a customer means fees for the bank.

Every investment that is done gives the fund it's fees. You want to get in on the investment frenzy just to make a bit of return? Well you're supporting all those brokers and giving them fees as well as all of the other transaction cost.

You want to join a bank? Look at a local credit union. You want to encourage a competitive landscape? Well that's the kind of thing you do.

Arresting bankers patches the problem, but leaves the system in-tact. People have tried to patch the problem for thousands and thousands of years, but they have not changed the system.

The system is based on centralization: it understands it. It understands control, and more importantly it understands things like the greed mechanisms that get everybody fighting with one another, into debt that will take more than a life-time to pay off, and it knows how to play on these very things to get you into the modern day slavery of consentual jurisdiction through contractual obligations, and it will use that very transfer of rights and sovereign jursidiction to make sure you know where you stand just in case you wish to rebel after you have signed the dotted line.

You want to understand how they force legal tender? They use registration and commercial law. There is a reason why you have to register your business, drivers license, get a social security number, and yes even register your own birth so that it can be traded as a commodity.

You have to create your own system and understand how you all give away your consent every single day. You have to reclaim your sovereign status and create the system so that you can trade amongst yourselves without any kind of retaliation from someone who has no claim to any form of jurisdiction or jurisprudence over you, unless you give it to them.

Create your own system of trade that is in no way no violation to you or another party (including the rights of which you have agreed to transfer to such party in the form of registration, other contractual obligations, and also through granting of jurisdiction), and you will finally be set free from every even having to think to arrest a banker.

Give me control of the money and I care not who makes its laws? The thing that they didn't tell you, is that you have to accept the laws, the money, and all of it that they just made up.
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« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2012, 07:27:12 AM »

There is no need to arrest them. Buy physical gold and silver and stop paying income taxes. Those two things alone will bring this paper pyramid down. Attempting to work within the system to arrest them won't work anyway. It would be wasted time and effort.
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