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« on: April 03, 2009, 06:41:31 PM »

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

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Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen

doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

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We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

Keywords: JScanning electron microscopy, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy, Differential scanning calorimetry, DSC analysis, World Trade Center, WTC dust, 9/11, Iron-rich microspheres, Thermite, Super-thermite, Energetic nanocomposites, Nano-thermite
Affiliation: Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, DK-2100, Denmark.

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/co...001/7TOCPJ.SGM

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 08:45:11 PM »

Message from Dr. Steven E. Jones
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Formally published in a peer-reviewed Chemical Physics journal, today:

    “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe” by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen

The paper ends with this sentence: “Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.”

In short, the paper explodes the official story that “no evidence” exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings.

What is high-tech explosive/pyrotechnic material in large quantities doing in the WTC dust? Who made tons of this stuff and why? Why have government investigators refused to look for explosive residues in the WTC aftermath?

These are central questions raised by this scientific study.

The peer-review on this paper was grueling, with pages of comments by referees. The tough questions the reviewers raised led to months of further experiments. These studies added much to the paper, including observation and photographs of iron-aluminum rich spheres produced as the material is ignited in a Differential Scanning Calorimeter (see Figures 20, 25 and 26).

The nine authors undertook an in-depth study of unusual red-gray chips found in the dust generated during the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001. The article states: “The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 ?C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.” The images and data plots deserve careful attention.

Some observations about the production of this paper:

    1. First author is Professor Niels Harrit of Copenhagen University in Denmark, an Associate Professor of Chemistry. He is an expert in nano-chemistry; current research activities and his photo can be found here:
    http://cmm.nbi.ku.dk/
    Molecular Structures on Short and Ultra Short Timescales
    A Centre under the Danish National Research Foundation

    The Centre for Molecular Movies was inaugurated 29th November 2005, at the Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen. The Centre is made possible through a five year grant from the Danish National Research Foundation (see e.g. www.dg.dk). We aim to obtain real time “pictures” of how atoms are moving while processes are taking place in molecules and solid materials, using ultrashort pulses of laser light and X-rays. The goal is to understand and in turn influence, at the atomic level, the structural transformations associated with such processes.

    The Centre combines expertise form Risø National Laboratory, University of Copenhagen, and the Technical University of Denmark in structural investigation of matter by synchrotron X-ray based techniques, femtosecond laser spectroscopy, theoretical insight in femtosecond processes, and the ability to tailor materials, and design sample systems for optimal experimental conditions.”

    We understand that the Dean of Prof. Harrit’s college, Niels O Andersen, appears as the first name on the Editorial Advisory Board of the Bentham Science journal where the paper was published.

    2. Second author is Dr. Jeffrey Farrer of BYU. http://www.physics.byu.edu/images/people/farrer.jpg

    3. Dr. Farrer is featured in an article on page 11 of the BYU Frontiers magazine, Spring 2005: “Dr. Jeffrey Farrer, lab director for TEM” (TEM stands for Transmission Electron Microscopy). The article notes: “The electron microscopes in the TEM lab combine to give BYU capabilities that are virtually unique… rivaling anything built worldwide.” The article is entitled: “Rare and Powerful Microscopes Unlock Nano Secrets,” which is certainly true as regards the discoveries of the present paper.

    4. Kudos to BYU for permitting Drs. Farrer and Jones and physics student Daniel Farnsworth to do the research described in the paper and for conducting internal reviews of the paper. Dr. Farrer was formerly first author on this paper. But after internal review of the paper, BYU administrators evidently disallowed him from being first author on ANY paper related to 9/11 research (this appears to be their perogative, but perhaps they will explain). Nevertheless, the paper was approved for publication with Dr. Farrer’s name and affiliation listed and we congratulate BYU for this. We stand by Dr. Farrer and congratulate his careful scientific research represented in this paper.

    5. Perhaps now there will finally be a review of the SCIENCE explored by Profs. Harrit and Jones and by Drs. Farrer and Legge and their colleagues, as repeatedly requested by these scientists. We challenge ANY university or established laboratory group to perform such a review. This paper will be a good place to start, along with two other peer-reviewed papers in established journals involving several of the same authors:

        Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction

        Authors: Steven E. Jones, Frank M. Legge, Kevin R. Ryan, Anthony F. Szamboti, James R. Gourley
        The Open Civil Engineering Journal, pp.35-40, Vol 2
        http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000

        Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence for energetic materials
        Authors: Kevin R. Ryan, James R. Gourley, and Steven E. Jones
        The Environmentalist, August, 2008
        http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s10669-008-9182-4

    6. James Hoffman has written three essays further explaining the implications and results of the paper. Thank you, Jim, for this work! http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/index.html

    7. Important features of the research have been independently corroborated by Mark Basile in New Hampshire and by physicist Frédéric Henry-Couannier in France., proceeding from earlier scientific reports on these discoveries (e.g., by Prof. Jones speaking at a Physics Dept. Colloquium at Utah Valley University last year.) We understand that details will soon be forthcoming from these independent researchers.

Now read the paper for yourself, and let your voice regarding these discoveries be heard!
http://www.bentham.org/open/tocpj/openaccess2.htm then click on “Active Thermitic Materials Discovered…”

Direct page link: (D/L PDF at source…)
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 10:38:48 PM »

This is headline level news!

Excellent work! Keep on the bastards that carried out this crime against humanity.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 11:02:42 PM »

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
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Study: Scientists Discover Active Thermitic Material in WTC Dust

Berkeley, CA, April 3, 2009 -- A new study by independent scientists and researchers suggests the cause behind the catastrophic destruction of World Trade Center Towers on September 11th can be seen in the dust itself: active thermitic material, a highly engineered explosive.

The study, published today in The Open Chemical Physics Journal, describes a finding of "red/gray bi-layered chips" in samples of dust taken from vicinity of the World Trade Center following its destruction. Using tools such as a scanning electron microscope (SEM) and x-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS) to analyze the material, the study authors concluded that, "the red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic."

The study's finding lends new support to the demolition theory put forth by critics of the official reports.

At a time when the American public is finding it difficult to understand the full story behind the current economic crisis, findings of a demolition raise new questions about how the 'War on Terror' -- an enormous source of recent American spending -- was started.

Officials with the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), charged with establishing the cause of the buildings' destruction, have stated that they "did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel," and that thermite, "or another incendiary compound," would be too difficult to have placed in the buildings without notice.

NIST has stated that such difficulties make demolition unlikely. They concluded that aircraft impacts and the subsequent fires led to the building failures.

Dr. Steven Jones, physicist and author on the paper, says that NIST has refused to test the dust for thermite, super-thermite, or any other accelerant or explosive.

"We've repeatedly asked them to follow standard investigative procedure, to perform these tests and release the results. They haven't."

Jones says such tests may be required by fire protection codes.

Kevin Ryan, chemist and co-author on the paper, explained why he thinks NIST is wrong. "What we've discovered is not conventional thermite -- which is what NIST continues to refer to -- but a highly engineered thermitic material, or 'super thermite', probably designed for just this type of application."

Pre-planned demolition, supporters say, is the 'best-fit' model for the many unusual and unexplained characteristics of the building failures, such as the speed and symmetry of the collapses, and the extreme pulverization of the materials leading to clouds of micron-sized dust particles, described in one insurance report as behaving similar to a "volcanic eruption".

"One of the unusual features that piqued my interest," Jones said, "was the pools of molten metal seen in all three rubble piles, WTC 1, 2 & 7."

NIST officials have published a response stating that the condition of the steel was "irrelevant to the investigation of the collapse."

Jones, formerly a Professor of Physics with Brigham Young University and known for his work in muon-catalyzed fusion, published in Nature, Scientific American, and the Journal of Physical Chemistry, began researching the 9/11/01 attacks in 2005.

Jones discovered the curious thermitic material in 2007, when he ran a magnet over a dust sample given to him by a Manhattan resident survivor of the attack, and found that some particles were attracted to the magnet.

"That was very odd to me," he said.

Those particles turned out to be iron-rich microspheres, partially described in a 2001 USGS study of the dust.

But to fully analyze, describe and report on the thermitic material would take longer.

Jones was joined in that effort by several others including Dr. Niels Harrit, a chemistry professor with the University of Copenhagen for over 30 years and author of numerous research papers in journals such as Nano Letters, the Journal of the American Chemistry Society, and the Journal of Physical Chemistry A.

Harrit says that he is frequently asked why he researches the September 11th attack. and says has two answers.

"First, I am opposed to crime, and second, when my 6 grandchildren ask me, 'Grandfather, which side were you on?' I will be able to answer them, 'I was on your side'."

Co-author Dr. Jeffrey Farrer, a materials scientist and Director of the TEM (Transmition Electron Microscopy) laboratory at BYU, says he hopes the paper will "change the way the 9/11 truth movement is viewed by the mainstream public and media."

And chemist and co-author Kevin Ryan, a former Underwriters Laboratories manager, challenged the NIST report in public statements in 2004, and was consequently fired.

"This finding really goes beyond anything that has previously been shown," says Jones. "We had to use sophisticated tools to analyze the dust because this isn't just a typical explosive, RDX or CD4 or something -- this is a highly engineered material not readily available to just anyone."

In a 2006 interview with Deseret News, Jones noted that commercial explosives must contain tag elements for traceability, but that no law requires tagging of advanced forms of thermitics.

In 2008, several of these authors published three articles challenging the official reports in US scientific journals, The Open Civil Engineering Journal, The Environmentalist, and The Journal of Engineering Mechanics Dozens of other papers making similar challenges have been published in the sister publication of the Scholars group, The Journal of 9/11 Studies

Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization of over 700 independent researchers analyzing the September 11, 2001 attacks with a strong emphasis on the scientific method.

For information: http://www.stj911.com or
Contact: stj911@gmail.com
Phone: 510-769-5109
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 11:15:59 PM »

I am waiting for the official world from Nist ;-)
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 11:35:06 PM »

As much as I wish something would come of these findings. I don't see how the conclusions of what is to most people an obscure never heard of journal will change anything. Dr. Steven Jones has long since convinced me, and many others, that some form of thermite was used that day. This will be filed away as another interesting factoid that preaches to the choir but leaves most people in the dust, as it were.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 11:51:01 PM »

It is about time more people start talking about this overwhelming evidence of controlled demolition of the World Trade Center INCLUDING RON PAUL!  Everyone should talk about this.  The more that do the quicker we wake everyone up to the New World Order.

9/11 was an inside job and people are just sitting idly by doing nothing!!!  This pisses me off!  Ron Paul start talking about the over 600 Architects and Engineers who have put their careers and lives on the line to tell the truth about this.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 12:09:48 AM »

Now read the paper for yourself, and let your voice regarding these discoveries be heard!
http://www.bentham.org/open/tocpj/openaccess2.htm then click on “Active Thermitic Materials Discovered…”

Direct page link: (D/L PDF at source…)
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/000000

No article found, neither link works, no such link off of 1st link either.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 12:25:15 AM »

Nevermind, I got it to work, scripts were blocked.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 12:34:47 PM »

See also:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 01:57:20 PM »

It is about time more people start talking about this overwhelming evidence of controlled demolition of the World Trade Center INCLUDING RON PAUL!  Everyone should talk about this.  The more that do the quicker we wake everyone up to the New World Order.

9/11 was an inside job and people are just sitting idly by doing nothing!!!  This pisses me off!  Ron Paul start talking about the over 600 Architects and Engineers who have put their careers and lives on the line to tell the truth about this.

I absolutely agree with you! 

Also the Pilots for 9/11 Truth.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 03:40:20 PM »

R.I.P. 9/11 official story.

For those who don't know:

On September 11, 2001, the buildings fell into themselves almost vertically, suggesting a controlled demolition.

To explain this anamoly, the official story says the internal structure was burned through fire, and so, it gradually melted, leading to a pancake effect where all stories of the building collapsed on top of each other

However, science states that the steel could not burn at such a cool temperature. Various new scientific theories have been invented to explain this, all of which have failed in gaining approval.

The discovery in this story shows that thermite (used in controlled demolitions) has been found, and thus it was a controlled demolition, and thus, it was an inside job. Certain people within the U.S. government (likely to be Cheney, Rumsfeld, to name 2) carried out 9/11.

Following September 11, 2001, it was considered very suspicious when so much of the material was denied for testing. But following these tests, we finally have the clue we needed! And it is now very obvious why they tried to deny the material for testing -- because it would obviously contain traces of thermite..!

This is not to mention all the on-the-ground witness reports of EXPLOSIONS heard just before the buildings started to fall. These reports, of course, were speaking of the demolition charges exploding just before the controlled demolition.
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 03:56:34 PM »

i predict total whitewash and blackout on this in the MSM.

but for anyone wishing to sound remotely based in reason and science, the offical fable is now DEAD.
Dead and f**king buried. once and for all.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2009, 04:03:02 PM »

I wonder what those reptiles at the Nanothermite Institute of Scumbags and Traitors are thinking right now...
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 04:11:11 PM »

But didn't they use thermite to cut and remove some of the larger pieces of debrea anyway? Or is this a different substance and application?
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2009, 04:20:20 PM »

But didn't they use thermite to cut and remove some of the larger pieces of debrea anyway? Or is this a different substance and application?

I have been an active truther for a very long time and no where was it mentioned that thermite was used in an official capacity.  The mention of thermite or thermate was discussed by Steven Jones alone.

http://www.bcrevolution.ca/thermite_evidence.htm
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 04:31:03 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2009, 05:15:08 PM »

There must have been so much thermite in those buildings. Not only was there enough to bring them down, but there was some left over!

No wonder some leaked out!
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2009, 06:16:39 PM »

Core Of Corruption: In The Shadows (1st Installment)

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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2009, 06:23:37 PM »

But didn't they use thermite to cut and remove some of the larger pieces of debrea anyway? Or is this a different substance and application?

The paper concludes the finding of unreacted nano thermite which is a bit like finding a grenade with the pin still in.Nano Thermite incorporates nano Aluminum which has to be manufactured, ruling out a natural event.They would not use nano thermite to cut steel for removal because this stuff is dangerous,classed as a high explosive and remember people like Mark Loizeaux denied nano thermite even exists.

What this categorically proves is that the buildings suffered a man made event and unless Bin Laden had access to the buildings and nano technology then it is safe to assume 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!.We can now say that with an air of certainty.

An interesting point made by Kevin Ryan is that nano thermite can be sprayed on, the same as thermal insulation is sprayed on.The planes also hit the exact floors where the thermal insulation had been upgraded,coincidence?.
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2009, 06:32:39 PM »

this explains the outward explosive collapse then.
i mean, for me you just gotta look at the collapse to see the explosive energy.
thats what i tell folks, look at the way they came down, exploding outwards.
i guess thats all AJ had to see on the day to get on live radio and call out the rat bastards.
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2009, 10:28:07 PM »

Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives

As Documentation of Thermitic Materials
in the WTC Twin Towers Grows,
Official Story Backers Ignore, Deny, Evade, and Dissemble

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Version 1.0, April 3, 2009

Introduction

The obliteration of the Twin Towers was the centerpiece of the event that launched the 'War on Terror'. Shocking on multiple levels, the events were especially traumatic for Americans, being the first bombing on the US mainland in modern history that killed thousands of people -- civilians -- in one day. Given the collective psychological trauma of the attack, it is not surprising that public discourse would remain free of observations that the destruction of the Twin Towers bore obvious features of controlled demolitions. Early candid public remarks by reporters and demolition experts where quickly retracted or forgotten. Passage of the USA PATRIOT Act and the invasion of Afghanistan would proceed apace.

By 2003 the United States had two occupations, and an international reputation as a rogue state all resting on a shaky-at-best collapse theory whose principle alternative hypothesis -- controlled demolition with pre-planted pyrotechnics -- had not even been tested by the straightforward forensic analysis of debris for residues of such materials.

By early 2009, the residue testing that NIST refused to do had been done by independent researchers, and published in a chemistry journal. Small bi-layered chips, found consistently in dust samples, have layers of red nano-engineered material that is clearly aluminothermic: it has sub-micron-diameter particles of largely of elemental aluminum, and smaller crystalline grains of primarily Fe2O3. On ignition, the chips produce temperatures above the melting point of iron, leaving tiny iron droplets matching the residues of commercial thermite pyrotechnics.

The publication of these results should be astounding to anyone who uncritically accepted the collapse explanations in TV documentaries and never looked seriously at any of the several bodies of evidence for controlled demolition.

The NIST investigation, having posted its Final Report with its absurd Building 7 joint-breaking-thermal-expansion theory in late 2008 and FAQ by Christmas, closed its doors before the independent researchers published their findings of active aluminothermic materials in WTC dust in a mainstream scientific journal; but not before they publicized findings of aluminothermic residues in the same dust samples; and not before they extracted from NIST a series of public statements, in press conferences and in written responses to requests for corrections (RFCs), about the conduct of their inquiry into the cause of the skyscrapers' total destruction.

ABEL: ... what about that letter where NIST said it didn’t look for evidence of explosives?

NEUMAN: Right, because there was no evidence of that.

ABEL: But how can you know there’s no evidence if you don’t look for it first?

NEUMAN: If you’re looking for something that isn’t there, you’re wasting your time....

--Conversation between a reporter and a NIST spokesperson. source

As a result, NIST spokespersons are on the record saying they did not test for pyrotechnics, and offering rationale for failing to test. Those rationale -- or rationalizations -- summarized toward the end of this essay, include the assertion that testing for pyrotechnics "would not necessarily have been conclusive". That is partially true: failing to find pyrotechnic residues wouldn't rule out demolition, since demolition might have been implemented using an untraceable fuel such as hydrogen gas. But finding abundant and distributed pyrotechnic explosive residues would conclusively favor demolition -- particularly given the persuasive deductive arguments showing that the features of the buildings' destruction are incompatable with a purely gravity-driven collapse.

The following timeline is narrowly focused on the emergence of public evidence indicating the use of aluminothermic pyrotechnics -- ranging from incendiaries to high-explosives -- in the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7, and on the response of official investigations -- particular NIST's -- to that evidence.

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2009, 10:38:31 PM »

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Scientists_find_active_superthermite_in_WTC_0404.html


Scientists find active 'super-thermite' in WTC dust


A team of nine scientists have released a startling new report on the events of 9/11, using data from dust gathered in the days and weeks after the towers came down. They discovered that scattered throughout the dust samples were red and gray chips of 'active thermitic material', or an un-reacted pyrotechnic explosive.



Thermite is used in steel welding, fireworks shows, and hand grenades. It is the combination of a metal powder and a metal oxide which produce a reaction known for extremely high temperatures focused in a very small area for a short period of time. The 'active thermitic material' discovered in the World Trade Center dust was a combination of elemental aluminum and iron oxide, and is a form of thermite known as 'nano-structured super-thermite'.

“These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere; available papers describe this material as an intimate mixture of UFG[Ultra-fine grain] aluminum and iron oxide in nano-thermite composites to form pyrotechnics or explosives. Commercially available thermite behaves as an incendiary when ignited, but when the ingredients are ultra-fine grain and are intimately mixed, this 'nano-thermite' reacts very rapidly, even explosively, and is sometimes referred to as 'super-thermite',” the report explains.

The full article in The Open Chemical Physics Journal can be found here.

Some of the authors of the paper have lost their jobs at universities and chemistry labs for their outspoken breakdown of what happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11. Kevin Ryan lost his job as a lab director after writing a letter to the National Institute for Standards and Technology(NIST was conducting an investigation into 9/11 at the time) challenging the common theory that burning jet fuel weakened the steel supports holding up the 110-story skyscrapers. Ryan claims that the owner of his laboratory subsidiary "was the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the WTC buildings,” according to the South Bend Tribune. Dr. Steven E. Jones, a physicist at Brigham Young University, presented a paper in 2005 discussing alternative theories to the commonly accepted 'jet fuel' reasoning. In September 2006 he was placed on paid administrative leave and his paper was removed from the BYU database.

Jones has told Visibility911.com, "In short, the paper explodes the official story that 'no evidence' exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings."

It remains to be seen if this study will encourage further investigation into the events of 9/11, or if anyone will come forth with a legitimate reason as to why nano-structured super-thermite can be found in dust produced by the collapse of the World Trade Centers.
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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2009, 02:37:21 AM »

The paper concludes the finding of unreacted nano thermite which is a bit like finding a grenade with the pin still in.Nano Thermite incorporates nano Aluminum which has to be manufactured, ruling out a natural event.They would not use nano thermite to cut steel for removal because this stuff is dangerous,classed as a high explosive and remember people like Mark Loizeaux denied nano thermite even exists.

What this categorically proves is that the buildings suffered a man made event and unless Bin Laden had access to the buildings and nano technology then it is safe to assume 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!.We can now say that with an air of certainty.

An interesting point made by Kevin Ryan is that nano thermite can be sprayed on, the same as thermal insulation is sprayed on.The planes also hit the exact floors where the thermal insulation had been upgraded,coincidence?.


That is a powerful, powerful reply to that nagging question about the clean-up crews using cutting compounds.

That needs to be copied and kept handy, as much of the public will simply accept that the welders and fire-crews used cutting compounds to remove the big steel debris.

You reply shows this would not be possible, as this nano-compound is dangerously explosive.

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Do we have any way of learning if ANY manufacturers produce this super-thermite stuff with this same chemical make-up? 
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That is a powerful, powerful reply to that nagging question about the clean-up crews using cutting compounds.

That needs to be copied and kept handy, as much of the public will simply accept that the welders and fire-crews used cutting compounds to remove the big steel debris.

You reply shows this would not be possible, as this nano-compound is dangerously explosive.

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Do we have any way of learning if ANY manufacturers produce this super-thermite stuff with this same chemical make-up? 


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Do we have any way of learning if ANY manufacturers produce this super-thermite stuff with this same chemical make-up? 

Kevin Ryan links the production of nano thermite directly to some of the NIST investigators.

http://911review.com/articles/ryan/nist_thermite_connection.html

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      NIST was working with LLNL to test and characterize these sol-gel nano-thermites, at least as early as 1999 (Tillitson et al 1999).
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      Forman Williams, the lead engineer on NIST’s advisory committee, and the most prominent engineering expert for Popular Mechanics, is an expert on the deflagration of energetic materials and the “ignition of porous energetic materials” (Margolis and Williams 1996, Telengator et al 1998, Margolis and Williams 1999). Nano-thermites are porous energetic materials. Additionally, Williams’ research partner, Stephen Margolis, has presented at conferences where nano-energetics are the focus (Gordon 1999). Some of Williams’ other colleagues at the University of California San Diego, like David J. Benson, are also experts on nano-thermite materials (Choi et al 2005, Jordan et al 2007).
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      Science Applications International (SAIC) is the DOD and Homeland Security contractor that supplied the largest contingent of non-governmental investigators to the NIST WTC investigation. SAIC has extensive links to nano-thermites, developing and judging nano-thermite research proposals for the military and other military contractors, and developing and formulating nano-thermites directly (Army 2008, DOD 2007). SAIC’s subsidiary Applied Ordnance Technology has done research on the ignition of nanothermites with lasers (Howard et al 2005).

      In an interesting coincidence, SAIC was the firm that investigated the 1993 WTC bombing, boasting that -- “After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, our blast analyses produced tangible results that helped identify those responsible (SAIC 2004).” And the coincidences with this company don’t stop there, as SAIC was responsible for evaluating the WTC for terrorism risks in 1986 as well (CRHC 2008). SAIC is also linked to the late 1990s security upgrades at the WTC, the Rudy Giuliani administration, and the anthrax incidents after 9/11, through former employees Jerome Hauer and Steven Hatfill.
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      Arden Bement, the metallurgist and expert on fuels and materials who was nominated as director of NIST by President George W. Bush in October 2001, was former deputy secretary of defense, former director of DARPA’s office of materials science, and former executive at TRW.

      Of course, DOD and DARPA are both leaders in the production and use of nano-thermites (Amptiac 2002, DOD 2005). And military and aerospace contractor TRW has had a long collaboration with NASA laboratories in the development of energetic materials that are components of advanced propellants, like nano-gelled explosive materials (NASA 2001). TRW Aeronautics also made fireproof composites and high performance elastomer formulations, and worked with NASA to make energetic aerogels.

      Additionally, Bement was a professor at Purdue and MIT. Purdue has a thriving program for nano-thermites (Son 2008). And interestingly, at MIT’s Institute for Soldier Nanotechnology, we find Martin Z. Bazant, son of notable “conspiracy debunker” Zdenek P. Bazant (MIT 2008), who does research on granular flows, and the electrochemical interactions of silicon. Zdenek P. Bazant is interested in nanocomposites as well (Northwestern 2008), and how they relate to naval warfare (ONR 2008). MIT was represented at nano-energetics conferences as early as 1998 (Gordon 1998).

      Bement was also a director at both Battelle and the Lord Corporation. Battelle (where the anthrax was made) is an organization of “experts in fundamental technologies from the five National Laboratories we manage or co-manage for the US DOE.” Battelle advertises their specialization in nanocomposite coatings (Battelle 2008). The Lord Corporation also makes high-tech coatings for military applications (Lord 2008). In 1999, Lord Corp was working with the Army and NASA on “advanced polymer composites, advanced metals, and multifunctional materials” (Army 1999).
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      Hratch Semerjian, long-time director of NIST’s chemical division, was promoted to acting director of NIST in November 2004, and took over the WTC investigation until the completion of the report on the towers. Semerjian is closely linked to former NIST employee Michael Zachariah, perhaps the world’s most prominent expert on nano-thermites (Zachariah 2008). In fact, Semerjian and Zachariah co-authored ten papers that focus on nano-particles made of silica, ceramics and refractory particles. Zachariah was a major player in the Defense University Research Initiative on Nanotechnology (DURINT), a groundbreaking research effort for nano-thermites.
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      NIST has a long-standing partnership with NASA for the development of new nano-thermites and other nano-technological materials. In fact, Michael Zachariah coordinates this partnership (CNMM 2008).
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      In 2003, two years before the NIST WTC report was issued, the University of Maryland College Park (UMCP) and NIST signed a memorandum of understanding to develop nano-technologies like nano-thermites (NIST 2003). Together, NIST and UMCP have done much work on nano-thermites (NM2 2008).
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      NIST has their own Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology (CNST 2008). Additionally, NIST’s Reactive Flows Group did research on nanostructured materials and high temperature reactions in the mid-nineties (NRFG 1996).
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      Richard Gann, who did the final editing of the NIST WTC report, managed a project called “Next-Generation Fire Suppression Technology Program”, both before and after 9/11. Andrzej Miziolek, another of the world’s leading experts on nano-thermites (Amptiac 2002), is the author of “Defense Applications of Nanomaterials”, and also worked on Richard Gann’s fire suppression project (Gann 2002). Gann’s project was sponsored by DOD’s Strategic Environmental Research and Development Program (SERDP), an organization that sponsored a number of LLNL’s nano-thermite projects (Simpson 2002, Gash et al 2003).
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      As part of the Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer, NIST partners with the Naval Surface Warfare Center at Indian Head (NSWC-IH) on Chemical Science and Technology (FLCTT 2008). NSWC-IH is probably the most prominent US center for nano-thermite technology (NSWC 2008). In 1999, Jan Puszynski, a scientist working for the DURINT program, helped NSWC-IH design a pilot plant to produce nano-size aluminum powder. It was reported that “At that time, this was [the] only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the United States” (SDSMT 2001), however, private companies like Argonide and Technanogy were also known to have such capabilities.

      Among an interesting group of contractors that NSWC-IH hired in 1999 were SAIC, Applied Ordnance, Battelle, Booz Allen Hamilton, Mantech, Titan, Pacific Scientific Energetic (see below), and R Stresau Laboratories for “demolition materials” (NSWC 2000).

      A tragic coincidence left William Caswell, an employee of NSWC-IH, dead on the plane said to have hit the Pentagon (Flight 77). He had for many years worked on “deep-black” projects at NSWC-IH (Leaf 2007).
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2009, 07:57:51 AM »

3 Essays on 9/11 Research about the discovery:
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/index.html

Visibility911 audio interviews with Stephen Kevin Ryan & Stephen Jones about the paper:
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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2009, 08:40:02 AM »

Massive congrats to all involved!  Kiss

How many peer-reviewed journal articles does this make for our side, now?  Huh
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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2009, 10:57:36 AM »

I just finished reading their whole paper. Pretty amazing stuff and some compelling images. I have no idea what the debunkers are going to do with this...oh wait, they'll ignore the evidence, perform character assassinations on the scientists who wrote the report, and perhaps claim that they made it all up or made their own nanothermite in basement or something.

Where's the scientists for 9/11 Truth group?

Anyway, very good work by those guys. Does anyone still believe the official story that has looked into this stuff at all?
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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2009, 11:19:38 AM »

I wrote up the below as an overview of the research and evidence available on this matter. If anyone desires to use any of it, permission to copy and reprint my following post, in whole or in part, without the need for request, and without the need to attribute me, is hereby granted.

I recommend people here go over it, since it ties the thermite evidence together.

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Scientists Confirm Large Quantities of Thermite in World Trade Center Dust

The below paper, published in a peer-reviewed chemical physics journal and authored by nine scientists working in laboratories at multiple universities using state-of-the-art equipment, confirms the presence of large quantities of metal microspheres of reacted thermite, and flakes (chips) of unreacted (i.e., still active) super-thermite (also called nano-thermite, which is thermite which has been made even more reactive by decreasing the thermitic particle size down to the nanometer range), in different dust samples from the collapsed World Trade Center (W.T.C.) towers collected from multiple people at different sites even before cleanup operations began. The physical and chemical properties of these microspheres and flakes were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (S.E.M.), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (X.E.D.S.), and differential scanning calorimetry (D.S.C.), among other methods.

Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen, "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe," Open Chemical Physics Journal, Vol. 2 (2009), pp. 7-31. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
http://visibility911.com/downloads/media/thermite-fingerprint.pdf
http://dx.doi.org/10.2174/1874412500902010007
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/oxy_redchip_slow.mov (A video cited in the article.)

For more information on the background on this paper, including the extensive research that went into it and the rigorous peer-review process that it underwent, I highly recommend everyone here listen to the below interview of Dr. Steven E. Jones, one of the paper's authors. Also available below is an interview of Kevin R. Ryan, another author of the paper.

"Special Report: Thermite Fingerprint," Michael Wolsey, Visibility 9/11, April 3, 2009. http://visibility911.com/reports-thermite01.php
http://media.libsyn.com/media/visibility911/visibility911_drjones0309.mp3
http://cdn4.libsyn.com/visibility911/visibility911_drjones0309.mp3
http://media.libsyn.com/media/visibility911/visibility911_kevinryan0309.mp3
http://cdn2.libsyn.com/visibility911/visibility911_kevinryan0309.mp3

Below are two other peer-reviewed papers which also pertain to the presence of large quantities of thermite in the dust of the collapsed W.T.C. towers:

Kevin R. Ryan, James R. Gourley and Steven E. Jones, "Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence for energetic materials," The Environmentalist, August 4, 2008. http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/fulltext.pdf
http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/fulltext.html
http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/
http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s10669-008-9182-4

Steven E. Jones, Frank M. Legge, Kevin R. Ryan, Anthony F. Szamboti and James R. Gourley, "Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction," Open Civil Engineering Journal, Vol. 2 (2008), pp. 35-40. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM
http://dx.doi.org/10.2174/1874149500802010035
http://hdl.handle.net/10.2174/1874149500802010035

In addition to the presence of large amounts of thermite in the dust of the collapsed W.T.C. buildings, another truly vital piece of evidence that provides definitive proof that the W.T.C. towers were brought down by controlled demolition are the videos of yellow-hot molten metal seen cascading off the South Tower (World Trade Center Tower 2).

That piece of evidence isn't merely a smoking gun: it's a smoking nuclear cannon. Those videos, alone and by themselves, are irrefragable proof that the South Tower (at the very least) had thermite-like ("like" in the sense of producing comparable temperatures) incendiary demolition charges with the ability to easily slice through structural steel going off within it. There is no innocent explanation for what those videos record.

That is to say, the only way to get around that it is thermite which is causing that yellow-hot metal to cascade off the South Tower before its collapse would be to posit that we are seeing a different form of extremely powerful incendiary with thermite-like temperatures at work in the videos. Of which, even if true, would be every bit as much damning, since no such powerful incendiaries can be accounted for without involving a sinister intent to plant them there.

Below are four videos which contain some of this footage:

"Shot from street level of South Tower collapsing," CameraPlanet, Google Video. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2991254740145858863

http://www.plunder.com/Video-of-Thermite-on-9-11-at-the-W-T-C-and-Physicist-Steven-Jones-Ph-D--download-84738.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20061213231413/http://www.supportthetruth.com/vids/thermite.wmv

http://web.archive.org/web/20071116045856/http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Molten+Metal+from+WTC.mpg

"Wtc 1, impact site close up, tower collapse close up, long shot, people shouting," CameraPlanet, Google Video. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8564772103237441151

From the color of the yellow-hot molten metal seen cascading off the South Tower, it had to be at least over 1000 °C (as the temperature of an incandescent object is exhibited by its color), yet jet fuel burns in open air at 260-315 °C; nor do burning office, building, or plane materials impart temperatures anywhere near that hot to structural members (indeed, it would present quite a hazard if such articles were constructed with such powerful incendiaries, and so designers of such objects go out of their way to make sure that they are not). Thus, if it wasn't molten iron from thermite that we are seeing come off the South Tower, then by necessity a reaction source with a heat intensity very much like thermite had to be present. Yet there is nothing in the U.S. government's account that can explain such a heat source; indeed, there's nothing innocent that could explain it, since it requires some sort of extremely powerful incendiary.

For more on this, see the below paper by Steven E. Jones (Ph.D.; physicist and archaeometrist; former professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University):

"Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse?," Dr. Steven E. Jones, Journal of 911 Studies, Vol. 3 (September 2006). http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/Why_Indeed_Did_the_WTC_Buildings_Completely_Collapse_Jones_Thermite_World_Trade_Center.pdf
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/Papers/J6p2%20.doc (Older version.)

See also:

"Experiments to test NIST 'orange glow' hypothesis," Steven E. Jones, Ph.D., August 31, 2006 http://911review.com/articles/jones/experiments_NIST_orange_glow_hypothesis.html
http://stj911.org/jones/docs/Liquid_Aluminum_011.mpg
http://stj911.org/jones/docs/Liquid_Aluminum_012.mpg

"Experiments with Molten Aluminum," Steven E. Jones with Wesley Lifferth, Jared Dodson, Jacob Stevenson and Shannon Walch, circa June 2006. http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/ExptAlMelt.doc
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ExptAlMelt.doc

"A description of molten aluminum poured onto rusty steel," Wes Lifferth, Physics Shop, Brigham Young University, Journal of 9/11 Studies, Vol. 9 (March 2007). http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200703/Molten_Aluminum_Poured_onto_Rusty_Steel_by_Wes_Lifferth.pdf

Moreover, even the official FEMA scientists Jonathan Barnett, Ronald R. Biederman, and R. D. Sisson, Jr. bolster the evidence that thermate (i.e., thermite with sulfur added, which causes it to slice through steel even faster by forming a eutectic alloy with it) was used to bring down the W.T.C. towers (see "Appendix C: Limited Metallurgical Examination" in World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations, Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA 403, May 2002 http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf ):

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Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent inter granular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. ... No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified. The rate of corrosion is also unknown.
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And in the below paper it is conclusively proved via chemical analysis using scanning electron microscopy (S.E.M.), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (X-E.D.S.), and wavelength dispersive X-ray spectroscopy (W.D.S.), that large quantities of thermite analogs (such as thermate) were used in the destruction of the World Trade Center towers:

"Revisiting 9/11/2001--Applying the Scientific Method," Dr. Steven E. Jones, Journal of 911 Studies, Vol. 11 (May 2007). http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf

See also the below on additional physical remains of thermite (in the form of unreacted flakes of thermite) from the demolished World Trade Center, collected even before clean-up operations began:

"Announcing a discovery: Red/gray bi-layered chips in the WTC dust," ProfJones (Steven E. Jones), 911Blogger.com, December 22, 2007. http://911blogger.com/node/13090

"Dr. Steven E. Jones Boston 911 Conference 12-15-07 Red chips Thermite.mov," Google Video, December 21, 2007. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4186920967571123147

Further, the below paper documents the connections between the people at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) responsible for investigating the collapse of the W.T.C. buildings and the rarefied military-intensive field of super-thermites. The glaring implication being that those responsible for executing the technical aspects of the controlled demolition of the W.T.C. (on behalf of those who control the U.S. government) are the same people in charge of investigating the cause of the collapses. Thereby killing two birds with one stone: using the same technical-echelon team which collapsed the towers to subsequently collapse any authentic investigation into what caused the collapse of the towers--as these people aren't going to tell on themselves. (To date NIST has refused to examine the remains of the W.T.C. for evidence of explosives or thermite, despite repeated requests for such an examination and despite such analysis being specified in NFPA 921, "Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations," National Fire Protection Association.)

"The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites," Kevin R. Ryan, Journal of 9/11 Studies, Vol. 22 (July 2, 2008). http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and_Nano-1.pdf
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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2009, 11:27:52 AM »

Rawstory is a major progressive power house media outlet.

Good to see the story there!

Great news everyone!
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Dr Steven Jones- Boston911 conference- Full presentation-12/15/07
 This is where he first disclosed this discovery.
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So, I've got a major jackass on my hands... Who wrote this when I posted the link to the article:

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Dozens, if not hundreds or thousands, of other tests on the very same materials produced no evidence of any thermite.  But these 9 guys, supported by the truther groups, find what no one else in the world has been able to find.  And instead of finding as credible those hundreds of other tests, you choose to believe this one, because it comes to the conclusion you want it to.
 
Facts are facts.

Don't get distracted by his nonsense (truther group bs) ... I got that covered... Just interested in the claim that dozens if not hundreds or thousands of other tests have been done on the dust from the WTC area with no evidence of thermite.  Have other tests been done?  What were the results... ?

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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2009, 10:33:00 PM »

But didn't they use thermite to cut and remove some of the larger pieces of debrea anyway? Or is this a different substance and application?

This isn't regular thermite. Nano super thermite is the claim of the findings. And the dust samples came from 4 different people who will swear in a court of law they were collected before any cleanup. It doesn't matter anyway. The Gov has dust samples of their own. Either they explain it or not. So far the answer is not.
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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2009, 07:53:27 AM »

As much as I wish something would come of these findings. I don't see how the conclusions of what is to most people an obscure never heard of journal will change anything. Dr. Steven Jones has long since convinced me, and many others, that some form of thermite was used that day. This will be filed away as another interesting factoid that preaches to the choir but leaves most people in the dust, as it were.

Gus. Hey bro are you a cynic, well join the club. It FN amazes me, for example, WMD's, thee were none and the population is aware of this, yet 7 years of war and 1,3000 killed.  I mean, doesn't that give of the aroma of a shiitecan.

Deceptions are nothing new. Take the mafia for example, want a guy wacked and leave a patsy. No sweat, find the tough guy at he baroom, suck up to him, buy him drinks, slip a mikey, go to the target, wack him and leave the patsy with gun in hand on the floor, then call 911.

Wild west, big time ranchers, want more land but theirs people libving there, families. So what, kill them all, have your renegade scalp them and leave arrow sticking out of them. two birds with one show, more land, instill fear kill of the indians savages. reminds me of Bin Laden and their tactics used, the byline, Bin Laden did it all.

What truly suuucs, is their are a percentage of our people who want this, who would put on a brownshirt on a moments notice, who care one twit about the innocents, the genocide and torture..

Then of course there are the lie worshipers, the truth deniers, the cowards unable to stand up against the tide.
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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2009, 09:25:51 AM »

How would they have rigged this up without nobody noticing?
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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2009, 11:15:05 AM »

It is about time more people start talking about this overwhelming evidence of controlled demolition of the World Trade Center INCLUDING RON PAUL!  Everyone should talk about this.  The more that do the quicker we wake everyone up to the New World Order.

9/11 was an inside job and people are just sitting idly by doing nothing!!!  This pisses me off!  Ron Paul start talking about the over 600 Architects and Engineers who have put their careers and lives on the line to tell the truth about this.

Unfortunately cutting the steel alone could not have produced the demolition collapse on it's own since even when we cut all 80 massive and square braced core beam columns every 4 floors or so, so they'd fit on tractor trailers,  to "slide off of" one another, the outer skin-frame and floors would HAVE HELD THEM VERTICALLY IN PLACE so they would have just sagged the inner height of 23-4 floors or so (as the lobby looked) and cooled (a bit shorter) back together again later!

So; we first cut off and displace them sideways (explosively) in one direction down in the basement, then we melt the beams every 4 floors high all the way up, and then we need to create 2.5 floor side cavities (opposing) top and bottom for each of the 23-2 pre-cut core sections to tip-into with shaped charges that blow away floor joints and floor material 23-4 times to get all the pre-cut core sections to slide-off-into detonating sequentially from the top down to the bottom!

So NOT 110 KLANGS of steel floors falling on steelfloors  (like a giant industrial punch press sound of the pancake theory) but we need to make 23-4 explosive detonation BOOM sounds, RIGHT?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iya_s7J7K6Y&layer_token=52988fba8c0af829

Turn up the bass or use headphones boyos!  Boom Boom Boom (X7 or so, exactly) all the way down!
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« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2009, 11:55:40 AM »

How would they have rigged this up without nobody noticing?


My take.

Work crews, plumbers, electricians, inspectors, security teams,tech workers,tell company men-clothing, city workters for whatever job description is needed, all ID's plainly showing. Many a night of entry with all documents in order, and all in company uniforms and hardhats, tool belts etc if need to conform to their function..
Colberation of various insiders, wouldn't it be nice to see who called in sick that day, was a no show, etc, especialy for the high uppers.
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« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2009, 12:15:29 PM »

How would they have rigged this up without nobody noticing?

Jim Hoffman has written a hypothesis, on how it could be done. I'm not really into explaining exactly how something happened that I didn't have anything to do with, but here's his guess of how it could happen.........
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/blasting_scenario.html

As far as I see it, the Gov can either confirm or deny that these chips are in their own samples. They have dust samples of their own you know.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=97266.msg577282#msg577282
(perhaps at some point these two threads should be merged by a Mod since we are discussing the same topic)

I would assume that they know all about these chips, and either they explain their take on them or keep pretending Jones and these other scientist don't exist. I would assume that if these are nano thermetic particles, the Gov will say they no longer have their own samples, and will claim they don't exist. Otherwise they can give their own explanation. Which so far they haven't.
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