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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/30/cctv-london-government-transport-g20Hmmmm. It seems that all the street camera's in London are to be TURNED OFF right before the G20 meeting. Tell me this is not a disaster waiting to happen. I've read they plan to EXECUTE protesters. Maybe they don't want video clips of the police blowing away innocent protesters put on the internet. My two cents. Of course, it's just a coincidence. Right. This is unbelievable. How can anyone not see what's going on?
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 11:42:16 AM » |
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There's more to this than meets the eye. I will be keeping close tabs on this story. There's another blog on it at.... http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread450449/pg1 |
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 11:45:32 AM » |
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there will probably be more cameras from press and peoples own home video cameras than there ever were CC cameras in london. Anything that happens is going to be pretty hard to hide. I doubt turning off the cc's would acomplish anything in the way of a cover up. This is a pretty strange story though.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 11:46:41 AM » |
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If they think they would get away with that just because there is no cctv camera's they had better think again! I am sure someone somewhere will catch them on film!  |
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 11:46:59 AM » |
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och, it's only 60 getting switched off, they've got another few million to keep an eye on us ....
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 11:51:03 AM » |
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Yes...I didn't consider the fact that there will be a lot people with camera phones. Still, I think there's more to this than meets the eye. The timing is too coincidental to be a coincidence. Someone has something up their sleeve. I guess we'll have to wait and see how the story develops.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 12:02:55 PM » |
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This is a big reg flag.  The Department for Transport (DfT) has ruled that Westminster council's mobile road cameras - a third of the authority's CCTV network - " do not fully meet the resolution standards required" and must be switched off by midnight tomorrow. The blackout begins on the eve of the summit, when world leaders arrive in the capital and protesters take to the streets. The council only discovered last week that images from its newly installed £15m traffic cameras do not meet the quality required under the Traffic Management Act, which comes into force on 1 April. "Frankly, it couldn't have come at a worse time," a source said. "These are not just parking enforcement cameras, they're for public order and we've got the G20 world leaders coming. This is a complete disaster." Under the legislation, traffic cameras must be capable of recording at 720 x 576 pixels, an analogue broadcast standard. Westminster's wireless network of road cameras, introduced last year, is the only fully digital traffic enforcement system operating in the UK, and is regarded as one of the most advanced in the world. But its picture quality is only 704 x 576 pixels. The DfT's enforcement branch, the Vehicle Certification Agency, has ruled it does not comply with the law. Yeah. Dirty tricks will be played. |
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 12:04:28 PM » |
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They turn them off when THEY don't want to be caught doing something illegal.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 12:06:28 PM » |
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I hope this epic saga has a happy ending.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 12:08:52 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2009, 12:13:57 PM » |
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2009, 12:24:23 PM » |
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If memory serves...didn't all, or at least some of, the cameras "mysteriously malfunction" right before the 7/07/05 bombings in London? Hmmmm.... |
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2009, 12:33:10 PM » |
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If memory serves correctly all of the thousands of cameras in and around the pentagon either mysteriously went blank, disappeared or were seized on 9/11... They always do this before a staged event. It usually is not publicized before the fact though... Nothing at all may happen, police beatings and kidnappings WILL happen to some protesters, there will be state and police provocateurs to try and incite riots and cause excuses for the police to do protest busting and mass arrests, there may even be a big staged event. Having cameras off in that situation is a bad thing.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2009, 12:37:28 PM » |
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I am about 10% sure this is a false flag. So that ain't much.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2009, 12:39:38 PM » |
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Seems suspicious. Have they given any reason?
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2009, 12:55:17 PM » |
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Weren't they also switched off on 7/7?
I am sure this is very normal
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2009, 12:59:06 PM » |
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Seems suspicious. Have they given any reason?
They said it's "illegal" due to "resolution issues." "The security operation at this week's G20 summit was thrown into chaos last night when it emerged that the entire network of central London's wireless CCTV cameras will have to be turned off because of a legal ruling. The Department for Transport (DfT) has ruled that Westminster council's mobile road cameras - a third of the authority's CCTV network - "do not fully meet the resolution standards required" and must be switched off by midnight tomorrow. The blackout begins on the eve of the summit, when world leaders arrive in the capital and protesters take to the streets." |
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2009, 01:06:06 PM » |
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They said it's "illegal" due to "resolution issues."
"The security operation at this week's G20 summit was thrown into chaos last night when it emerged that the entire network of central London's wireless CCTV cameras will have to be turned off because of a legal ruling.
The Department for Transport (DfT) has ruled that Westminster council's mobile road cameras - a third of the authority's CCTV network - "do not fully meet the resolution standards required" and must be switched off by midnight tomorrow.
The blackout begins on the eve of the summit, when world leaders arrive in the capital and protesters take to the streets."
They do not meet resolution regulations? They show too much or not enough? It is amazing, it is like the NWO is not even trying anymore. They really just do not give a shit. |
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2009, 01:10:20 PM » |
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If memory serves...didn't all, or at least some of, the cameras "mysteriously malfunction" right before the 7/07/05 bombings in London? Hmmmm.... Let's not forget Jean Charles de Menezes' shooting - where the tapes were removed by the police then spontaneously disintegrated into dust when in police custody. Or BBC World Service's videos of the 9/11 attacks, which - entirely of their own volition! - transferred themselves from the normal digital form onto analogue cassettes then vanished into thin air, taking all records of WTC 7's collapse with them. The cameras getting turned off are only the Wi-fi roadside ones, there are literally millions more that will remain on during g20 |
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2009, 01:12:30 PM » |
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just came across this little headline. completely reeks of disinfo. Anti-terror raids net 5 ahead of G20 summit U.K. police seize weapons, arrest would-be protesters in security operation http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29957011/updated 8:44 a.m. PT, Mon., March. 30, 2009 LONDON - Five people suspected of planning to join protests against the G20 summit in London on Thursday have been arrested after weapons were found during a raid on a house in southwest England, police said on Monday. Detectives said the five Britons, three men aged 16, 19 and 25 and two women both aged 20, were arrested in the city of Plymouth, between Friday and Sunday and were being held under counter-terrorism powers. Police said their inquiries indicated there was "no religious agenda" to the investigation. Anarchists have threatened to bring chaos to the streets of the British capital and a police source told Reuters the five suspects were believed to be planning to take part in the protests.Police sought to reassure local people, saying they were not at risk. "These arrests would appear to be isolated at this time," said assistant chief constable Sharon Taylor of Devon and Cornwall police. The first person arrested was a 25-year-old man, detained in Plymouth on Friday on suspicion of criminal damage. A search of his home led to the arrest of three others for drugs offences, but detectives later found unspecified weapons and suspected imitations, and material "relating to political ideology." The fifth man was arrested on Sunday and all five were then detained under the Terrorism Act. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2009, 01:14:49 PM » |
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I'll bet they're planning ahead. No video evidence to be subpoenaed, because "the cameras were off at the time".
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2009, 01:15:20 PM » |
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I like the apparent reason for this ruling: "To ensure local authorities have a fair and transparent way of detecting unlawful drivers, any recording device must meet minimum requirements."
One would think that ensuring the security of the biggest event in the UK, until the 2012 Olympics, would weigh as a bit more important than the feelings of any possible 'unlawful drivers'. But I guess it is considered a good enough excuse anyway. That and the timing make this ruling suspicious, but we'll have to wait and see I guess. |
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2009, 01:22:19 PM » |
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They do not meet resolution regulations?
They show too much or not enough?
It is amazing, it is like the NWO is not even trying anymore. They really just do not give a shit.
Under the legislation, traffic cameras must be capable of recording at 720 x 576 pixels, an analogue broadcast standard. Westminster's wireless network of road cameras, introduced last year, is the only fully digital traffic enforcement system operating in the UK, and is regarded as one of the most advanced in the world. But its picture quality is only 704 x 576 pixels. The DfT's enforcement branch, the Vehicle Certification Agency, has ruled it does not comply with the law. ---- It doesn't meet the requirement by 2%. It seems stupid to turn them off for that reason. I could see them not buying certain camera's because they don't meet the requirement but why turn off cameras that are already bought, paid for and functioning, especially when they are so close to regulation. However, I don't see this being a problem. There will probably be tons of cell phone's and other cameras to catch everything. |
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2009, 01:30:27 PM » |
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However, I don't see this being a problem. There will probably be tons of cell phone's and other cameras to catch everything.
It's also illegal to record the police in London now. The law came into effect Feb 16th. I'm sure that that will open up a whole new can of worms as this thing develops. I can't believe how stupid they think people are. It's really insulting. http://www.prisonplanet.com/uk-terror-law-to-make-photographing-police-illegal.html"According to the British Journal of Photography, the Counter-Terrorism Act 2008, which is set to become law on February 16, “allows for the arrest and imprisonment of anyone who takes pictures of officers ‘likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism’.” The punishment for this offense is imprisonment for up to ten years and a fine." |
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2009, 01:39:58 PM » |
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The cameras will be off, we promise. *wink wink* Yea right.................
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It's also illegal to record the police in London now. The law came into effect Feb 16th. I'm sure that that will open up a whole new can of worms as this thing develops. I can't believe how stupid they think people are. It's really insulting. http://www.prisonplanet.com/uk-terror-law-to-make-photographing-police-illegal.html"According to the British Journal of Photography, the Counter-Terrorism Act 2008, which is set to become law on February 16, “allows for the arrest and imprisonment of anyone who takes pictures of officers ‘likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism’.” The punishment for this offense is imprisonment for up to ten years and a fine." OMG in London it is illegal for the people to video tape terrorists. Well that makes sense. Does this mean that when the government sub-contractors start blowing up people again like they did on 7/7, if you pull out a video camera to record evidence of government involvement with the hand that was not blown off, then the police will arrest you? That would suck. |
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2009, 01:52:24 PM » |
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Well it might only be 60 cameras goin off but thats many has got to be enough to cover a few blocks - if not more!
Classic ambush - lead them down a narrow funnel and . . . .
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2009, 03:01:15 PM » |
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The postioning of these cameras may have something to do with their goals.
If this is the case, close attention should be paid to the same areas of survelance.
It seems to me wheras this is an organized rally, their monitors will be schedualed to keep their eyes open, just a thought but perhaps they could get the loactions and stick around these locations with cell phone and recorder.
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2009, 03:11:39 PM » |
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HAS ANYONE STOPPED TO THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND THEY WANT US TO KNOW THEIR DOING IT - HOPING WE WILL RIOT?
Think about it - they get their power off of ANY dialectic or division they can create. Even if it is 'The Truth Movement' versus the 'Establishment and their zombie pet citizens.'
Now conveniently and suddenly some 'activists' have been implicated in some kind of illegal activity.
So now the ostracized peace and truth movement can face off against the zombie pet citizens and they can let anarchy reign for a while and the majority citizens can then beg them for a solution to a problem they created.
SPREAD THE WORD. DON'T FEED THE DIALECTIC - JUST EXPOSE IT.
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Its probably to protect the Police if they use under handed force or to protect Agent Provocateurs...
Being identified or tracked....
You can capture a guy in a mask...On your CamCorder
If you see same guy get out of police van two blocks then join protest and smash up Mcdonalds
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Think about it - they get their power off of ANY dialectic or division they can create. Even if it is 'The Truth Movement' versus the 'Establishment and their zombie pet citizens.'Now conveniently and suddenly some 'activists' have been implicated in some kind of illegal activity. So now the ostracized peace and truth movement can face off against the zombie pet citizens and they can let anarchy reign for a while and the majority citizens can then beg them for a solution to a problem they created. SPREAD THE WORD. DON'T FEED THE DIALECTIC - JUST EXPOSE IT. 17 CAMERA'S WERE SHUT OFF IN THE SUBWAY TUNNEL THAT PRINCESS DIANA WAS KILLED IN (ACTUALLY THEY DRUGGED HER IN THE AMBULANCE ON THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL.) 80+ CAMERA RECORDINGS WERE REMOVED AT THE PENTAGON. THE CAMERA RECORDINGS OF 7/7 SHOWED A TUBE STATION 10 MILES AWAY, AND THE HOSTAGES ARM GOING THROUGH SOLID METAL BARS (GOTTA WORK ON THAT VIDEO EDITING THERE BLACK OPS - OR WERE YOU JUST LEAVING US AN EASTER EGG?)They control the media, they shut down Jane Standley within seconds of her mis-broadcast of WTC7. Do you honestly think the MI5 Censor would allow this to get out without there being a cause? The word false flag is part of the cultural understanding now - I think they are doing them in plain site hoping we will all riot and panic. The only way to stop the abuse is with the truth! Its the latest game. 
DIALECTIC POWER RECIPES 101 - Build ANY kind of opposition (doesn't even matter what it is Protestant versus Catholic / Black versus White / Truthers versus The Sleeping public / Commies versus Allies etc etc)
- Stock psychological tensions between the opposing sides (charge the battery)
- Draw its energy while expending it (let a conflict reign / cold war etc. ACTIVITY GENERATES GDP - WHICH IS TAXED. aka Cold War base / Missiles etc etc.)
- Scoop up the pieces and pose as the saviours to it (when both sides are 'expended')Repeat with a new cycle and conflict. Don't let them pull of this next dialectic, like they would want to.
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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2009, 05:44:13 PM » |
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If memory serves...didn't all, or at least some of, the cameras "mysteriously malfunction" right before the 7/07/05 bombings in London? Hmmmm.... They also "failed" when they killed that man on the subway. This is just a change in their storyline... "we have no proof where the trouble started, 'cause the cameras were out of service for maintenance" People JUST BE CAREFUL! Bring back up or throw away cameras to hand over in case..poPO gets pushy.. invest in hidden cameras and have people filming at a distance, out of sight! Be prepared, the storm troopers will be! |
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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2009, 06:14:08 PM » |
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The cameras are considered illegal now that they could be useful? (for exposing police brutality/murder, false flag, who knows what will happen) Combine this with what the protest's organizers (whoever they are) are planning, things are looking pretty bad.  Best wishes to all of you in the UK, I hope nothing too major is pulled |
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2009, 06:45:10 PM » |
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Watch their going to be asking everybody there 'DO YOU HAVE A CAMERA PERMIT'
Of course everybody will have to say no because they won't be issuing any!
Anyone with a camera will immediately have it removed.
The key is the undercover's will be watching for the hidden cameras..
Buy a 15 dollar camera to pacify the police to make them think you have your equipment.
But why?
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Why do they want no witnesses, but don't mind telling us so?
MY HUNCH:
The London Cameras are being shut off for the protection of a large rolling mass of contract Agent Provocateurs to cause rooting and rioting. I would suspect a repeat of what went down in Portland. A sort of soft 'false flag' not a large one. The large ones they wouldn't have the leaders there for it. They like the dialectics kept to a minimum when the world leaders are there.
But the 'rioting crisis' can be the front excuse to sell the public on some 'bad decisions' that have to have public support, and can only come forward out of a crisis.
It doesn't make any sense -
WHAT I WOULD WATCH FOR:
* LONDON IS SO HEAVILY POLICED THAT MI5 CANNOT EVEN PULL THEIR FALSE FLAG STUFF WITHOUT GETTING CAUGHT BY STANDARD ENFORCEMENT. WATCH FOR A LACK OF POLICE IN A AREA - AND PEOPLE ACTING SUSPICIOUS IN THE SAME REGION. AN AREA THAT SHOULD HAVE HEAVY SECURITY IN THE FACE OF THE G20 BUT DOES NOT. OR INSTEAD WATCH FOR A POLICE CORDON AROUND AN AREA STILL ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC? THINK ABOUT WHY THEY WOULD DO SUCH A THING? A SECURITY CORDONE AROUND A PUBLIC SPACE THAT DOESN'T FIT THE PERIMETER OF WHERE THE G20 IS.
* WATCH FOR 'TRAINING EXERCISES.'
* WATCH THE ISRAELIS AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR EMBASSY STAFF - THEY WERE MAGICALLY EVACUATED AHEAD OF THE 7/7/05 STUFF- THE MOSSAD ALWAYS HAS DIRT ON A FALSE FLAG.
* WATCH FOR MISSING MEMBERS OF THEIR GOVERNMENT THAT ARE RELATED TO SECURITY.
* WATCH OUT FOR YOUR BUDDY, AND WATCH YOUR BACK! GOOD LUCK!
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I think it would rock to have the agent provacateurs exposed, filmed and then forwarded to the police so they have to act. Never give the original tape they will magically loose it.
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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2009, 07:02:06 PM » |
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Watch their going to be asking everybody there 'DO YOU HAVE A CAMERA PERMIT'
Of course everybody will have to say no because they won't be issuing any!
Anyone with a camera will immediately have it removed.
The key is the undercover's will be watching for the hidden cameras..
Buy a 15 dollar camera to pacify the police to make them think you have your equipment.
But why?
why?
Why do they want no witnesses, but don't mind telling us so?
MY HUNCH:
The London Cameras are being shut off for the protection of a large rolling mass of contract Agent Provocateurs to cause rooting and rioting. I would suspect a repeat of what went down in Portland. A sort of soft 'false flag' not a large one. The large ones they wouldn't have the leaders there for it. They like the dialectics kept to a minimum when the world leaders are there.
But the 'rioting crisis' can be the front excuse to sell the public on some 'bad decisions' that have to have public support, and can only come forward out of a crisis.
It doesn't make any sense -
WHAT I WOULD WATCH FOR:
* LONDON IS SO HEAVILY POLICED THAT MI5 CANNOT EVEN PULL THEIR FALSE FLAG STUFF WITHOUT GETTING CAUGHT BY STANDARD ENFORCEMENT. WATCH FOR A LACK OF POLICE IN A AREA - AND PEOPLE ACTING SUSPICIOUS IN THE SAME REGION. AN AREA THAT SHOULD HAVE HEAVY SECURITY IN THE FACE OF THE G20 BUT DOES NOT. OR INSTEAD WATCH FOR A POLICE CORDON AROUND AN AREA STILL ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC? THINK ABOUT WHY THEY WOULD DO SUCH A THING? A SECURITY CORDONE AROUND A PUBLIC SPACE THAT DOESN'T FIT THE PERIMETER OF WHERE THE G20 IS.
* WATCH FOR 'TRAINING EXERCISES.'
* WATCH THE ISRAELIS AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR EMBASSY STAFF - THEY WERE MAGICALLY EVACUATED AHEAD OF THE 7/7/05 STUFF- THE MOSSAD ALWAYS HAS DIRT ON A FALSE FLAG.
* WATCH FOR MISSING MEMBERS OF THEIR GOVERNMENT THAT ARE RELATED TO SECURITY.
* WATCH OUT FOR YOUR BUDDY, AND WATCH YOUR BACK! GOOD LUCK!
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2009, 07:13:34 PM » |
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This is unbelievable. How can anyone not see what's going on?
How could you see? - there are 16 pixels missing! Everyone knows a picture lacking 2% of it's vertical resolution is totally useless and a serious hazard to public safety! PSSST: Doesn't Luke need some cameras? |
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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2009, 07:41:29 PM » |
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Reminds me of the bit in The Bourne Ultimatum where Jason is in London and the cameras are remotely turned to face the wrong way so that they can get away with shooting the reporter...
If something were to happen, they can now plausibly claim that any given camera was one of those that was unfortunately switched off.
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