WTF? Why are there gov't flu sites?

[Spacezombie]

I was looking for any rumblings on moves towards a pandemic and the first thing that came up was www.pandemicflu.gov and www.avianflu.gov.

Why are they being so specific?

That's a little like if in 1999 there was a site called www.dontflyonseptember112001.com.

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.  I hope it doesn't.

[Mike Philbin]

er, there's no H5N1 Bird Flu in the NAU ... but does anyone (like me) see a 'back door into the States'? via Alaska?



Also, aren't there Chinese people in businesses in Africa?  Just wondering if H5N1 in humans is an Oriental-only target virus, the way certain scientists have suggested that AIDS was a African-only target virus.

[sociostudent]

Oh, it gets creepier, my friend...much creepier.

check these mind-benders out:
http://www.who.int/entity/csr/disease/avian_influenza/guidelines/protocolfinal30_05_06a.pdf
http://www.who.int/entity/csr/resources/publications/WHO_HSE_EPR_GIP_2008_2/en/index.html

[phasma]

actual deaths from H5N1 are much less than you might imagine: Don`t panic so much ! It can go from bird into human but currently not from human to uman so they only way you could get it is if they inject you with it (yeah watch out for that one!)

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_bir_flu_h5n_con_hum_dea-flu-h5n1-confirmed-human-deaths

Rank   Countries   Amount  (top to bottom)     
#1   Vietnam: 42   
#2   Indonesia: 19   
#3   Thailand: 14   
#4   China: 8   
#5   Cambodia: 4   
#6   Turkey: 4   
#7   Iraq: 1   
 Total: 92   
 Weighted average: 13.1 

[Mike Philbin]

I guess the Baxter plan to mix two strains of pre-mutated H5N1 with the normal aerosol flu virus (via corporate vaccine) would help those figures?

[phasma]

I guess the Baxter plan to mix two strains of pre-mutated H5N1 with the normal aerosol flu virus (via corporate vaccine) would help those figures?

No doubt - shame they were found out huh!
i have shown everyone inv my doc the reports on that - no one i know will have a flu vaccine this year. . . (or that damned cervical cancer vaccine either!)

who said there was going to be trouble at the g20 anyway - it seems that they are trying to provoke it and if that doesnt work then they`ll invent it !

[sociostudent]

actual deaths from H5N1 are much less than you might imagine: Don`t panic so much ! It can go from bird into human but currently not from human to uman so they only way you could get it is if they inject you with it (yeah watch out for that one!)

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_bir_flu_h5n_con_hum_dea-flu-h5n1-confirmed-human-deaths

Rank   Countries   Amount  (top to bottom)     
#1   Vietnam: 42   
#2   Indonesia: 19   
#3   Thailand: 14   
#4   China: 8   
#5   Cambodia: 4   
#6   Turkey: 4   
#7   Iraq: 1   
 Total: 92   
 Weighted average: 13.1 

Yeah...all that is true...until you have a mutant supervirus that:
1. we don't have any immunity (antibodies) to
2. that's resistant to antivirals
3. that can spread EASILY via droplets dispersed in the air through coughing, sneezing, etc. (airborne) and
4. for which there is no vaccine available, due to insufficient study combined with a high transmission rate and human carriers (that act as ride-along ponies for the virus, without actually getting sick. They then pass along the virus to others, who, depending on their particular immune system reaction (or OVER-reaction, as would be the case with pandemic flu), they would either fall ill or not.)

If the Baxter viral mishmash would've been allowed to escape the confines of the lab, it would probably end up having ALL of these qualities. They've already confirmed in scientific studies that the genetic re-assortment of type a influenza is most deadly when it's H5N1 and H3N2 ; In other words, it's the most likely combination of strains to get that "magic formula" that the eugenicists have been striving to perfect since the early 90's.

[sociostudent]

Oh yeah, and don't forget the newspeak for quarantine: "social distancing"...The UN/CDC/WHO have been indoctrinating H.R. reps, health departments, and journalists all over the world for the past year and a half about it:
http://www.undg.org/archive_docs/8599-UN_Staff_Handbook_on_Pandemic_Influenza.pdf
http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publicationsandstatistics/Publications/PublicationsPolicyAndGuidance/DH_097137?IdcService=GET_FILE&dID=189550&Rendition=Web

[Mike Philbin]

My response to all this bird-flu/anthrax news of late has to include....

Remember Rottweilers and American Pitbulls - there was a spate of news items about these dangerous beasties. The way the news spread it was a sorta of trajectory curve of media saturation. I think at some point the media gets hold of any story and wants to better the story that came before (they're businesses remember) and to do this they'll fuel the paranoia any way they can.

Then interest dies off and the world returns to normal. Pity none of these money-making news outlets  grabbed hold of the 9/11, 7/7, 11/3 stories and extrapolated those to logical conclucions of paranoia degree.

Gah

[sociostudent]

My response to all this bird-flu/anthrax news of late has to include....

Remember Rottweilers and American Pitbulls - there was a spate of news items about these dangerous beasties. The way the news spread it was a sorta of trajectory curve of media saturation. I think at some point the media gets hold of any story and wants to better the story that came before (they're businesses remember) and to do this they'll fuel the paranoia any way they can.

Then interest dies off and the world returns to normal. Pity none of these money-making news outlets  grabbed hold of the 9/11, 7/7, 11/3 stories and extrapolated those to logical conclucions of paranoia degree.

Gah

I beg to differ. When the Baxter incident leaked to the press in Europe, the only mention of it in the U.S. was bloomberg, and it was subsequently pulled, if I remember correctly.

[Mike Philbin]

I beg to differ. When the Baxter incident leaked to the press in Europe, the only mention of it in the U.S. was bloomberg, and it was subsequently pulled, if I remember correctly.

That's even funnier - thanks for the perspective.

Mike

[sociostudent]

Here's the special "WHO pandemic handbook for journalists":
http://www.who.int/csr/don/Handbook_influenza_pandemic_dec05.pdf