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Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« on: March 23, 2009, 01:24:13 pm »
for all the folks that are not aware of this massacre, here's a good documentary:

 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7860880126603536377&ei=XuDHSemwKM-w-AaTxrHZAQ&q=jonestown&hl=en


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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 09:36:47 am »


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7860880126603536377&ei=XuDHSemwKM-w-AaTxrHZAQ&q=jonestown&hl=en

this vid contains a little more on the night audio than Evidence of Revision.
 bumped for recommendation.

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 10:18:16 am »
If the Nazis who controlled the German government in the early to mid-1940s had had access to the same corporate whore "news" media that the Nazis who control the U.S. government do now, I'm sure to this day the Holocaust would be commonly regarded as a "mass suicide," and that most of the population would be conditioned to reflexively dismiss the idea of it not being a mass suicide as a "conspiracy theory."
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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 10:23:15 am »
funny thing about this is i see documentaries all the time about this incident on australian tv but not once have i heard them mention anything about jim jones CIA involvement.

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 01:03:24 pm »
Jim Jones brought Moscone to office thru election fraud, which led Dan White to shoot Moscone and Milk. White gets off with voluntary manslaughter.  Feinstein becomes Mayor of San Francisco which launches her political career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_White

Soon after serving a sentence of five years, Dan White returned to San Francisco and committed suicide two years later. San Francisco Weekly has referred to White as "perhaps the most hated man in San Francisco's history."[1]

Election as supervisor
In 1977, White was elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors as a Democrat from District 8, which included several neighborhoods near the southeastern limits of San Francisco. At this time, supervisors were elected by district and not "at-large," as they had been before and would be again in the 1980s and '90s. He had strong support from the police and firefighter's unions. His district was described by The New York Times as "a largely white, middle-class section that is hostile to the growing homosexual community of San Francisco. [...] As a supervisor, Mr. White made it clear that he saw himself as the board's defender of the home, the family and religious life against homosexuals, pot smokers and cynics."[4]

The assassinations

White was initially on civil terms with Milk and supported some of his political initiatives. After the two had a falling out over a land zoning matter, however, White frequently clashed with Milk and other members of the board. On November 10, 1978, White resigned his seat as supervisor.[4] As reasons, he cited his dissatisfaction with the corrupt inner-workings of San Francisco city politics, as well as the difficulty in making a living without a police officer's or firefighter's salary, neither of which jobs he could legally hold while serving as supervisor. He had opened a potato restaurant at Pier 39, which had failed to become profitable. On November 14, however, he reversed his position after his supporters lobbied him to withdraw his resignation and seek reappointment from San Francisco mayor George Moscone.

Moscone initially agreed to White's request, but later refused the reappointment at the urging of Milk and others. On November 27, 1978, White went to San Francisco City Hall to meet with Moscone and make a final plea to get his job back. He arrived that day carrying a loaded gun, with 10 extra rounds of ammunition, and sneaked into the building through a window, thereby circumventing the metal detectors of the recently installed security system. Upon entering Moscone's office, White pleaded to be reinstated as a supervisor, but Moscone turned down his request. White then shot and killed Moscone. He reloaded his weapon and walked over to Milk's office and shot him five times, killing him; he fired the final shot at very close range. He then fled City Hall and turned himself in at the Northern Police Station where he had been an officer. White recorded a tearful confession, stating, "I just shot him."

Confession
In 1998, Frank Falzon, the homicide inspector with the San Francisco police to whom White had turned himself in after the killings, said that he met White in 1984, and that at this meeting White had confessed that he had the intention to kill not only Moscone and Milk, but another supervisor, Carol Ruth Silver, and then-member of the California State Assembly (and future San Francisco Mayor) Willie Lewis Brown, Jr. as well. Falzon quoted White as having said, "I was on a mission. I wanted four of them. Carol Ruth Silver, she was the biggest snake ... and Willie Brown, he was masterminding the whole thing." Falzon indicated that he believed White, stating, "I felt like I had been hit by a sledge-hammer ... I found out it was a premeditated murder."[8]

It is my opinion that there was "other" pressures and programming on White then have ever been revealed.

Some interesting things about the SF Bay Area:  MilitaryIndustrialComplex:
During the 60's-70's:  Presidio, Alameda Naval Air, Oakland Transport Depot, Concord Naval Weapons (Where the Nu-es were stored), Monterey Intellegence training school, UC Berkeley-Laurence Livermore Labs, Travis Air Force Base, Hunters Point Naval Station, Dow Chemical (agent orange/Napalm), Hamilton Field Air Force Base (Novato), Mare Island Naval Shipyard (Subs) (Vallejo), Church of Satan, Home of Jim Jones Church,  Home of the Zodiac Killer, SRI - Stanford Research Institute, Home of the "Moonies", Home of the Grateful Dead and farm commune, Home of the Ken Kesey's - Acid Tests (PaloAlto-Stanford), Bohemian Grove, Home of the Hell's Angel's (Sonny Barger), spiritual home of Charlie Manson and so much more...

No nothing going on around here, just move along now....

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In 1990, the San Francisco Bay Area was home to several large U.S. military facilities.
By 2000, they were all gone.

These are scenes from the Bay Area's recently-abandoned, Cold War-era bases: Hunter's Point Naval Shipyard (San Francisco), Treasure Island Naval Station (San Francisco), Alameda Naval Air Station (Alameda), the SF-88 Nike Missile Site (Marin Headlands), Hamilton Field Air Force Base (Novato), Mare Island Naval Shipyard (Vallejo), Naval Security Group Activity base (Skaggs Island), and portions of Moffett Field Federal Airfield (Mountain View).


http://www.brasscheck.com/jonestown/

Made in San Francisco - Jonestown and Official San Francisco:
The Untold Story
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During the 1970s, official San Francisco delivered hundreds of children and elderly poor into the hands of Jim Jones in exchange for money and votes and then obstructed the family members who tried to rescue them.

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http://www.brasscheck.com/stadium/ferc.html

Instant replay - July 25, 1976 Freitas, supes challeged in vote scandal
July 25, 1976
San Francisco Chronicle - Larry Hatfield
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"In February 1978 the DA's office told the registrar it was no longer necessary to retain 1975 election files. They were subsequently destroyed."

Source: "People's Temple and the DA's Office" - San Francisco Exaniner 1-21-79
Note: What Ritchie and FERC did not know at the time of this interview was that Freitas had been elected with the active help of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. Later, members would confess to being engaged in a program to swing the election with illegal votes.

Freitas, the District Attorney, who along with Willie Brown and George Moscone was voted into office through this fraudulent election, appointed Tim Stoen, an officer in Jim Jones' "church" to run the election fraud investigation. Dozens of people were charged with individual actions of voting fraud, but the primary culprits behind the fraud were never investigated or charged.

Freitas claimed to reporter Warren Hinckle that he'd never heard of the People's Temple until after the election and that he picked Tim Stoen's resume out of the mail when he appointed him to head the voter fraud unit.

Willie Brown was quoted at the time of the election that neither Moscone nor Freitas could have been elected without Jones' support.

After the election, (Willie) Brown used his influence to have Moscone appoint Jim Jones to head the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission.

http://www.snopes.com/legal/twinkie.asp

http://cbs5.com/local/feinstein.milk.moscone.2.873935.html

Feinstein Recalls Assassination Of Milk, Moscone

SAN FRANCISCO (BCN) ― 

 San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk was assassinated by fellow supervisor Dan White, who also shot and killed Mayor George Moscone on Nov. 27, 1978.


U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein reflected Tuesday on the assassination of San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk, nearly 30 years after she found his body lying on an office floor in San Francisco City Hall.

"I remember it as if it was yesterday,'' Feinstein said.

She said she struggled for years to speak about the tragedy, which she refers to as one of the hardest moments of her life.

Speaking to members of the media at her San Francisco office, Feinstein said of Milk, "He was a character in many respects. He could be very funny. He could be very intense. He could be very loud.''

Milk and former Mayor George Moscone were fatally shot by former San Francisco Supervisor Dan White at City Hall on Nov. 27, 1978.

Feinstein, who was president of the Board of Supervisors at the time, recalled hearing the shots, leaving her office and finding Milk's body before learning that Moscone had also been killed.

Feinstein said Tuesday that White did not kill Milk because of his sexual orientation, but rather because he felt betrayed when he was not able to reclaim his seat on the board after resigning.

"What people don't know is that Dan White and Harvey Milk were friends,'' Feinstein said, adding they used to meet for coffee in the Castro nearly every week.

"Dan White was a troubled man under a lot of pressure,'' Feinstein said.

Because of her position as president of the board, Feinstein became mayor after Moscone's death. She was then elected to the post twice.

At Tuesday's event, she called the two years after the assassinations the most difficult political years of her life.

"What it did to the city was divide it right down the middle,'' Feinstein said

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/10/22/us/dan-white-killer-of-san-francisco-mayor-a-suicide.html?sec=health

Dan White, the man convicted of shooting to death Mayor George Moscone of San Francisco and fellow Supervisor Harvey Milk in 1978, committed suicide today, the police said.

Mr. White, who was 39 years old, was found in a car in the garage of a house owned by his wife in San Francisco's middle-class Excelsior district.

Officers investigating Mr. White's death said his brother, Tom, found his body about 2 P.M. A rubber hose, they said, had been used to pipe lethal carbon monoxide into the car

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Mr. White, a San Francisco native and the second of nine children, was often referred to as ''an all-American boy'' in news accounts after the shootings. He was a star athlete in high school and spent a year in the Vietnam War as a paratrooper, then returned home to work first as a policeman and then as a fireman.

In 1977, with strong support from the city's police union, whose leaders were angry over what they perceived as growing official tolerance of crime and of overt homosexuality and prostitution, he was elected to the Board of Supervisors on a conservative platform

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 01:34:33 pm »
http://www.brasscheck.com/jonestown/pics.html

The Jonestown Massacre: A Tragedy Made in San Francisco

"We Support Jim Jones"

Note: The pictures on this page and the next appeared in the book Six Years with God The author, Jeannie Mills, her husband Al, and daughter Daphne were found murdered in their Berkeley home in 1980.

The Mills family, escapees from the People's Temple, had been threatened with death by Jones' supporters. Mills had been director of publicity for the "church" and had extensive knowledge and documentation of its relationship with local political figures. No one has ever been charged with the murder of the Mills family and the crime has never been solved.



Mayor George Moscone and Jim Jones meet Walter Mondale at SFO - Willie Brown attributed Moscone's electoral victory to Jones

"Mayor George Moscone said yesterday that his office will not conduct any investigation into allegations that have been made about Rev. Jim Jones. . ." - July 27, 1977

District Attorney Joseph Frietas appointed Jones attorney Tim Stoen to investigate allegations of election fraud in Moscone's election even though members of the People's Temple were among the prime suspects. Election fraud continues to be a tradition in San Francisco today.



Jones delivered votes for Jerry Brown's campaign for governor. As governor, Brown ordered the Temple's records removed from San Francisco to Sacramento just weeks after the Jonestown murders

"Ninety-nine percent of all the work done by People's Temple is in the service of the elderly, poor families, and troubled youth. . . It is most unfortunate that some people. . . feel threatened by this simple organization and philosophy of service." - Art Agnos - photocopy of the full letter



Mutual admiration society: Preacher-entrepreneur Cecil Williams, Police Chief Charles Gain, and Jim Jones - While building his "church" in San Francisco, Jones was engaged in extensive financial fraud and the torture and sexual abuse of children. Local politicians like Williams and Gain "saw no evil."

"Called less formally PT, the church is best known and highly regarded for its social works, which include housing and feeding senior citizens and medical convalenscents, maintaining a home for retarded boys, rehabilitating youthful drug users. . ."
- Charles deYoung Thieriot, Publisher of the Chronicle

"Timothy and Grace Stoen, the parties that have been attempting to damage Rev. Jones' reputation, and seriously disrupt the life of his son, John, have already been discredited by the news media here." - Harvey Milk - photocopy of the full letter



Bob Wallach, head of the SF Bar Association and Jones. The People's Temple kept a small army of San Francisco attorneys busy as they successfully fought parents for custody of their own children and engaged in a wide variety of fraudulent activities. The legal fees were money well spent as local courts found in Jones' favor in every case.

"Jim Jones is a rare, rare specimen. Jim Jones is a symbol of what we all ought to be about. . . Jim Jones is, in my opinion, a true human being." - Willie Brown, Jr.

About some of the 287 children who were murdered in Jonestown

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 01:57:35 pm »
good post.

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 08:00:19 pm »
What is kind of interesting is that Nov 18-19 1978 when the mass suicide occurred Dan White was in the process of trying to get his job back as a super and then committed the murders 10 days later. 

Carol Ruth Silver is also an interesting character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Ruth_Silver

Carol Ruth Silver (born 1938)[1] is an American lawyer and former politician. She was a Freedom Rider arrested and incarcerated for 40 days in Jackson, Mississippi, [2] [3]. She was among those on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors allegedly targeted by Dan White in the Moscone-Milk assassinations, but was saved because she was not in her office at the time of the murders.[4][5]

Her 1977 election was part of a shift toward diversity on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors; she was described as "the board's first unwed mother."[6]

She is a member of Pink Pistols and a supporter of the 2nd Amendment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

The Pink Pistols are a gay gun rights organization in the United States and Canada. Their mottos are "Armed gays don't get bashed" and "Pick on someone your own caliber." Inspired by a Salon.com Article by Jonathan Rauch,[1] Doug Krick, a libertarian activist from Massachusetts, founded the Pink Pistols in July 2000. The organization now has 48 Chapters in 32 States and 2 countries that are principally made up of gun-owning LGBT individuals, though neither status is mandatory for membership.[2]

Feinstein although she is always there to vote for any gun ban that comes up in legislation, has a conceal and carry permit for herself and is always packing. 

http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8680
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He’s also the man who invented the term “rainbow family” to describe interracial “families” like his own.

The Jonestown affair is also interesting when you start looking at the money. All the money and wealth of the members went into a community pot and after the deaths there was a bit of confusion as to where the money went. Plus the assertion that it was all a cia MK-Ultra operation . So did the cia fund it? I think they liked the idea that the members funded their own demise.


http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/AboutJonestown/PrimarySources/FinancialLetters_Nov18.html

Financial Letters of November 18   
 
On Jonestown’s final day, its leaders sought to ensure that the assets of the dying community would go to the country to whom they had sworn political allegiance, the Soviet Union.

The most well-known attempt to transfer money was publicized within a matter of days. Maria Katsaris, the Temple’s financial secretary, had given three suitcases and two passports to Tim and Mike Carter, and Mike Prokes. The suitcases contained cash – over $900,000 in US currency and over $135,000 in Guyanese currency – and several letters bequeathing Temple assets to the Soviet Union. The two passports were those of  Annie McGowan and Maria Katsaris, apparently to verify the signatures on the enclosed letters.

They were also given three revolvers, along with the instructions that “under no circumstances are you to be taken alive.”

The three men didn’t make it to the Soviet Embassy in Georgetown, as they had been instructed. They barely made it out of Jonestown. The suitcases were heavy with the money, and one by one, they were abandoned, along with one of the guns. The men removed about $48,000 in US currency and a thousand Guyanese dollars from the third suitcase, and left it by railroad tracks directly across from the entrance to Jonestown. They then headed towards Port Kaituma, where they were placed in protective custody.

According to Tim Reiterman and John Jacobs in Raven: The Untold Story of the Rev. Jim Jones and His People (pp. 562-563), Maria Katsaris was also making arrangements to transfer money from accounts in Swiss banks in Panama City, Panama to the Soviet Union. The funds were held in fixed time deposits in the name of Annie Jean McGowan, “a jovial and loyal seventy-year-old black woman born in Mississippi,” as Raven describes her.

• One letter signed by Annie McGowan dated November 18, 1978 directs Rudolf Keller of the Union Bank of Switzerland in Panama City, Panama to send cashiers checks to Feodor Timofeyev “as each deposit comes due … plus the interest earned.” The letter then lists six deposits by amount and due date.

The letter concludes with a request that the instructions are followed exactly “[a]s I will not be able to do much traveling right now.”

• Another letter signed by Annie McGowan dated November 18, 1978 was addressed to Andre Mennet of the Swiss Banking Corporation in Panama City, Panama. “When the fixed time deposit for the $557,000.00 [in account number 3357] comes due, please send a cashiers check including the interest earned to Mr. Fidor [Feodor] Timofeyev… With the fixed time deposit that is due on July 6, 1978 for $1,486,000.00 please also send a cashiers check addressed to Mr. Fedor Timofeyev. Please also include interest earned in this check also.”

This letter to Andre Mennet was typed out at least four different times on November 18. The language is identical, but the typeface, the spacing, and the spelling of Feoder Timofeyev varies from draft to draft. Three of the letters were signed by Annie McGowan, and the fourth has no signature. Given the fact that the signature is so far removed from the text of the letter, it could have been that the Jonestown leadership used blank pieces of paper signed by Annie McGowan as the pages for the different versions.

• Annie McGowan’s signature also appears on a letter to Feoder Timofeyev dated November 18. Above a detailed listing of Temple bank accounts, and dates and amounts of deposit, a paragraph explains that the letter is one of instruction “regarding all our assets which we want to leave to the Communist Party of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics… I am doing so on behalf of Peoples Temple because we, as Communists, want our money to be of benefit for help of oppressed people all over the world, or in any way that your decision-making body sees fit.”

The letter attaches business cards of the Swiss bank officials in Panama and anticipates the enclosure of all the instructions to various banks. It concludes “you should have no difficulty in receiving the checks upon the above mentioned maturity dates.”

The total amount of the accounts, according to the letter, was some $7.3 million.

• A handwritten letter from Maria Katsaris was recovered from the suitcase. It reads: “I, Maria Katsaris, leave all the money in the Banco Union de Venezuela in Caracas to the Communist Part, Soviet Union. The person to contact is Mr. [illegible] in the Main Branch of Banco Union. This is my final wish before I die.” A final sentence begins “I died” but is crossed out. Under her signature are those of two witnesses: Jim McElvane and Marilee Bogue.

• A typewritten letter signed by Marceline M. Jones and witnessed by Ann Elizabeth Moore and Maria Katsaris, also dated November 18, 1978, is addressed “To Whom It May Concern,” and reads:

I, Marceline Jones, leave all bank assets in my name to the Communist Party of the USSR. The above bank accounts are located in the Bank of Nova Scotia in Nassau, Bahamas.

Please be sure that these assets get to the USSR. I especially request that none of these are allowed to get into the hands of my adopted daughter, Suzanne Jones Cartmell.

For whoever finds this letter, please honor this request as it is most important to myself and my husbank [husband] James W. Jones.

I swear under penalty of purjury [perjury] the above is true and correct.

• A handwritten letter signed by Carolyn Layton, was also witnessed by Ann Elizabeth Moore and Maria Katsaris, also dated November 18, 1978, and also addressed “To Whom It May Concern”:

This is my last will and testiment [testament]. I hereby leave all assets in any bank account over which I am a signatory to the Communist Party of the U.S.S.R.

However it can be sent to them would be my deepest request.
I have an account in the Bank of Nova Scotia in Nassau, Bahamas.

 http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/JonestownBanks.html

The Jonestown Banks  
by John Judge 
August 1982 

The assets of Jim Jones' People's Temple have yet to be fully accounted, but early research in the press and by independent investigators put the total between $26 million and $2 billion. Following the money leads down a twisted trail of international banks, dummy fronts, real estate investments and conflicting government reports.

Various sources estimate a total of at least $17-$20 million in foreign investments, and property worth $2.5 million that passed through deed, sale and ownership from 1976 to 1979.

Some $12 million dollars was deposited in mysterious accounts in Panama.

During the recent scandal involving the Vatican Bank, Bank Ambrosiana and deceased Italian financier Roberto Calvi, information surfaced indicating that some of the siphoned millions went to Panamanian banks.

Time magazine noted in a July 26 issue this year that Archbishop Paul Marcinkus of the Vatican Bank set up twelve ghost companies in Panama for the movement of funds. A short five days later, on July 31, 1982, the New York Times carried an AP wire story that the President of Panama was resigning, and all high officials were soon to be replaced there. A review of the holdings known to the public in the Jonestown affair may reveal to serious researchers what connections exist between the financial operations.

Terri Buford, one of Jones' top lieutenants, was often responsible for setting up the international accounts. For instance, both she and Debbie Layton Blakey were reported to have carried out a "mysterious financial mission" from Panama to London, where they were alleged to have "studied Socialist and Communist banks," then on to France and Switzerland. Terri repeatedly instructed the bank clerk in Switzerland not to "discuss anything" during their visit, but he did mention a $2,000,000 account in passing, perhaps the one in the safe deposit box (San Francisco Examiner, 1/9/79). Accounts were secured in many names besides Jones' and People's Temple. Terri Buford, Carolyn Layton, Maria Katsaris and others from Jones' entourage were used. In addition, dummy organizations like Bridget, S.A., Angelique, and others, disguised the accounts. Terri Buford reportedly gave the Grand Jury investigators records of deposits in Panamanian banks totalling $7.5 million, while press reports suggested that more money was residing in Swiss and Guyanese banks. Following the massacre, Buford and Mark Lane traveled in Europe, leading to speculation that they had been instrumental in removing money from the Swiss accounts, a charge (LAT, 1/20/79) Lane was to vehemently deny in print. Lane was simultaneously the attorney for People's Temple and accused assassin James Earl Ray. Lane and Buford also lived with and cared for a key witness in the Ray case, Grace Walden Stevens. According to some reports in the New York Times (2/4/79), Jones offered Mark Lane money to help free James Earl Ray. Later stories suggest that Buford and Lane were in collusion to bring Grace Stevens into Jonestown under an illegal passport (NYT, 12/8/79).

Buford's Panama visit may have been connected to a "few banking trips to Caracas, Panama City and the San Francisco suburb of Belmont" (Miami Herald, 3/27/79) made by Jones' confidant, Maria Katsaris, in 1978. Clearly, three numbered accounts were in place there by 1978. Court-appointed receiver Fabian finally admits in November of 1979 that there were two accounts. One in the name of Annie McGowan at the Union Bank of Switzerland in Panama, a follower of Jones who died in the carnage. The two accounts described there by the San Francisco Examiner could both meet the description in terms of cash balance. They are, respectively, accounts #121-00-191A and #121-00135A (see chart above). In addition, Fabian notes the existence of a $2,000,000 balance in the Swiss Banking Corporation of Panama in the name of a "dummy front." This is account #3357 (see chart above) (LAT, 11/18/79).

Michael Prokes and Tim Carter, two of the camp guards who survived, claim that Maria Katsaris instructed them to take a chest with $500,000 to the Soviet Embassy. On their return to the United States, they claimed contact with Soviet Embassy officials in Guyana. They said they knew Valerly Koval (reportedly a Major in the KGB and a top operative in Latin America), and Feodor Timofeyev (a KGB Deputy, allegedly). Timofeyev's name appeared on letters addressed to the Soviets instructing them on access to $7 million in a Panamanian account at the Union Bank of Switzerland (San Francisco Chronicle, 1/21/79). This story is most likely an elaborate ruse to cover the real money flow, or an excessive trap to lure Soviet "involvement" with Jones' camp after the massacre. Jones was not in any way disposed to give money to the Soviet Union. But let's take a closer look at the real development of the Panama money cache.

In January, 1979, the Department of Justice released its intention to bring a $4.2 million suit against People's Temple funds to recover the cost of body removal by the U.S. military. Defendants named at that point included the Asociacion Religiosa Pro San Pedro, S.A. of Panama. The following day, the presiding magistrate, Judge Brown, sent a "lawyer to Panama," and the suit claimed that the "Panama affiliate" was "organized to handle the assets of People's Temple" (Oakland Times, 1/23/79). The San Francisco Chronicle had estimated a financial empire of at least $26 million (SFC 1/9/79), but when Judge Brown moved to dissolve the People's Temple on January 24, State Attorney General Appalas placed the total much lower. "Contrary to previous press reports, Appalas said, total Temple assets approached only $12 million and were located in Grenada, Venezuela, the Barbados, Guyana and Trinidad," said the San Francisco Chronicle (1/24/79). No mention of Panama. The same day, Guyanese official Kit Nascimento attempted to absolve Guyanese government officials, including President Burnham's wife, of any wrongdoing in the removal of a reported half million dollars by plane from the Jonestown site, claiming it was all deposited in the Bank of Guyana in Georgetown. It is not clear how this claim, which involves an account totaling $700,000 relates to the reported money in Guyana after the deaths (see chart above) (Washington Post, 1/24/79). A few days later, Jim Jones' mother-in-law, Charlotte Baldwin in Richmond, Indiana, denied that he left a large estate, and recounted his daughter Suzanne's claim that there was only property and "$17,000 in a Nassau account," presumably not a reference to the Bank of Nova Scotia deposit (WP, 1/29/79).

.... well it goes on....

...The Jonestown accounts, as they were, have been divided. But the reality of the horror, like the money that backed it up, continues to flow in unseen channels.

The unanswered question remains. Was the Jonestown empire built with the same dirty money that came from the Banco Ambrosiano, the Nugan-Hand Bank and other international conduits of cash for the men who trade in narcotics, espionage, human flesh and death?

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2010, 08:16:36 pm »
As Bill Hicks might say ...it's a real third eye opener. :)

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 02:03:23 am »

What a tragic event for these people. I've heard about the massacre but haven't seen the actual video or the documentary. I've only read it in books and magazines, including the Guiness book of records where in at one time the People's Temple mass suicide was the largest in number.

Thanks for the link.

Regards,

hmmm so guiness still think its mass "suicide"? ..interesting, i guess when armed gunman with ak-47's force you to drink poison its classified as "suicide" in these days of orwellian mind control, what a weird fascinating little world we live in.

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 05:30:18 am »

Is this an example of manipulating the vunerable.
Go figure, domestic deterioration begins in the USA, people are poverty stricken, but lo and behold, our savior has opened FEMA camps, food, housing, medical, all free.
What next??

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2012, 12:47:42 pm »
Bump for Fienstein

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCRQLWp9KoM
Moscone murder

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2012, 01:19:13 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT6FuNQJeeM
Off Kilter Show 1 Part 3
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Consummate emcee Tea Tee carries on the festivities by introducing Russ Kyle's San Francisco Crime Tour. In this segment Russ uncovers the connections between local SF politicos and the infamous

People's Temple. Russ tells of Jim Jones influence over Feinstein, Milk, Moscone and others in what ultimately led to the horrific mass murder-suicide in Guyana. On a happier note we finish the show segment entitled "Parks". Great shots shots of scenic SF set to the music of The Small Faces classic "Itchigoo Park". Keep an eye out for future episodes of Off Kilter!

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2012, 02:36:59 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1YXvKk8t3c
KQED's A Closer Look: People's Temple, November 20, 1978

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/01/jim_jones_sinister_grip_on_san_francisco/

Tuesday, May 1, 2012 04:45 AM PDT
 Jim Jones’ sinister grip on San Francisco

How the Peoples Temple cult leader ensnared Harvey Milk and other progressive icons
By David Talbot
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Governor Jerry Brown sang the preacher’s praises. Congressman John Burton, Phil’s brother, lobbied the governor to appoint Jones to the high-profile board of regents, which oversaw California’s sprawling public university system. San Francisco Supervisor – now U.S. Senator — Dianne Feinstein accepted an invitation to lunch with Jones and to tour Peoples Temple.



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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2012, 02:45:25 pm »
Willie Brown who was a supporter of Jim Jones later became mayor of S.F. and was warned about 9/11

http://infowars.net/articles/february2008/250208Willie.htm
Mayor Willie Brown Contradicts Earlier Statements About 9/11 No Fly Warning
 Truth group confronts former San Francisco official at center of controversy
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The former Mayor of San Francisco has made comments that contradict his own previous claims regarding a warning he received on September 10th 2001 not to fly the following day.

Willie Brown, the incumbent mayor of San Francisco at the time, was questioned earlier this month by members of the Philadelphia 9/11 Truth group during a public engagement.

Brown famously hit the headlines the day after 9/11 when he informed the San Francisco Chronicle of the early warning he received a full eight hours before the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington began.

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2012, 03:04:10 pm »
Jesuit's ? i don't know - but CIA yes MK-Ultra type op, all the way. Interesting video - Who is Jerry Brown? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=QIo6EUydzqc
The Truth about JIM JONES and Jonestown
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http://spirituallysmart.com/jonestown.html
There's a lot more to this. I got overwhelmed with the amount of peculiarity there is to this case. It's very sad. And incredibly it seems like many of the politicians were in on it.

They gave Jim Jones credence right to the very end. The were not considered a cult until close to the very time they all were massacred in Guyana. They were considered a group of people who were activists and wanted to work together to make the world better. The were also well liked by the Guyanese government at that time which had just won it's independence in 1966.

Also jonestown was on a piece of land that Venezuela was saying was their's. A man who was a Jesuit priest, Andrew Morrison was the one who propagated many of the crazy stories we now read about in regards to the People's temple. The jesuits didnt like People's Temple for many reasons. They were like a thorn in the side of the CIA and MI6 in that area. And Congressman's findings were about to be published back in California. the truth was, none of the relatives cited by "concerned relatives" wanted to leave Jonestown.

Here are some more jesuit connections to Jonestown: http://spirituallysmart.com/jonestown3.html

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Re: Jonestown, 1978, 900 murdered, live footage
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2012, 03:37:43 pm »
A pretty cool Congressman was killed there, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Ryan
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2012, 05:54:40 pm »
VIDEO GONE!!!
 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7860880126603536377&ei=XuDHSemwKM-w-AaTxrHZAQ&q=jonestown&hl=en

yes video googles gone... search Jonestown massecre documentary

The first 911 - (claims of 911 dead)

Evidence of Revision 5 of 5 - MK ULTRA and the Jonestown Massacre - gore vidal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nus9mnbvflM