DISINFO CORNER: NO PLANES / VIDEO FAKERY / SPACE LASERS

[Amd304912]

cancer> read ts's posts.

[mr anderson]

cancer> read ts's posts.

Man you guys are at it constantly and I'm not interested in petty squabbles.

[Amd304912]

Man you guys are at it constantly and I'm not interested in petty squabbles.

too bad it cant go back to the days before "were all gonna die it dont matter anyways" times.

[iks83]

So, how do you all explain the video clips I posted?

Its so laughable because people explained those videos like 1000 times but the no planers would never listen. Always spewing the same BS... oh whats with the nose out? Planes dont melt into the building. Look how nervous the newsspeaker is and bla bla bla bla... of course every astonishment and word fumbling is cause by knowing that the footage are forgeries right right... how convenient. Maybe planes hitting buildings have nothing to do with it. Also those people are actors to put on a good show for the viewers. So even if he is stone cold inside he would act in a certain way to get more audience behind him. But thats not because of forgeries its because of planes hitting buildings.

As for the retired aerospace engineer saying planes cant melt into buildings well... the plane didnt melt into the building ok? It shredded into 1000000 pieces and got pressed into spaces with the least resistence meaning windows. Like I said before but no planers will never listen and since they dont they must be agents because logic doesnt seem to bother them. Also you find some lone nut in all kind of fields... like Dr. Judy Wood with her space beams... also you could be called an aerospace engineer when you screw on the tires on the plane. Still doesnt make you an expert on physics and how a plane would interact with a building. Have you ever read about the Empire State Building? http://history1900s.about.com/od/1940s/a/empirecrash.htm
Its much more concrete and dense, slower plane, smaller plane and still debris went right through the building to the other side but nononononNO!!! not with the WTC where a much larger plane at much higher speed hits a less dense structure... there it must be fakery.

Also stop saying a jumbo jet hit the WTC... jumbo jets are 747 which are 20 meters longer and 10 meters wider than the 767s who hit the WTC. So much for your accurateness.

How does aluminum penetrate 20 layers of steel and emerge intact?  It can't, and this footage is an obvious fake!  Believe what your eyes are seeing!  Fox News is obviously trying to hide a missile/military modified aircraft here!

Yeah about the nose out BS... how do you know its a nose on that blurry video where the no planers made fake overlays to "proof" their point? There is tons of debris, plane and office, shooting out the other side. There is nothing there to proof any forgery or that in fact the nose came out. Also like said before there were no 20 layers of steel!!! The building isnt covered in tank armor ffs! You have pillars... space between them... drywalls... what is wrong with you?

Stop posting you crap and "disecting" of footage. For everything there are 1000 more likely explanations which are also true based on logic and physics. Too bad noone will kickban you. Disinfo shills really piss me off. But they are easy exposed cause the spew the same crap all the time and are resistant to reason.

[space86]

Would they have access to live video on 9/11 or was the video not really live?

[gautnl27]

http://uncleardegree.wordpress.com/

The source of these photos was a mass email, claiming this is what went into the Pentagon on 9-11…. I don’t know if they actually are missiles but it certainly makes you think about the possibility. This would explain any witnesses who say they saw a plane going towards the pentagon. It also had several photos of Osama Bin Ladin sitting with Bush and his cronies at a meeting.

Photos can be seen here:http://uncleardegree.wordpress.com/

[TheGoodFight1984]

Those pics are screenshots from a film called The Orion Conspiracy - photoshopped.

http://www.theorionconspiracy.com

[Enigma]

I've always known Bush had a stiffy for men with long beards.

But seriously,
I don't think it was a plane that hit the pentagon. If you look at most of the videos its easy to see the thing that hit it was smaller then any plane.

[gautnl27]

If you have more information about these photos, Please send it to me. I want to know where they were taken and what they really are. Any additional info would be helpful. Thank you.

[TheGoodFight1984]

Those pics are screenshots from a film called The Orion Conspiracy - photoshopped.

http://www.theorionconspiracy.com

[pissoff404]

it seemed very unlikely when i looked at the first picture, but the picture of bin laden in the office. hah. not to mension thats the exact position he is in in one of his "jihad tapes". i do think that missiles or smaller planes hit the pentagon. they didnt need to be disguised though.

[Mike Philbin]

http://www.theorionconspiracy.com

what the hell is that crazy English-dubbed thing? I'd never heard of it before. Is it like the Daily Telegraph's BLACKJACK thing?

why are these stupid things being made?  Oh, it's because the X-files isn't on anymore - but at least they were interesting, fun, you know.

[gautnl27]

Those pics are screenshots from a film called The Orion Conspiracy - photoshopped.

http://www.theorionconspiracy.com

Thanks I try and make a point to find out everything I can about things that I am not sure of. Its something that still could be true even though these pictures are from a movie. I will continue my search for the truth, and hopefully be able to have irrefutable evidence. 

[TheGoodFight1984]

what the hell is that crazy English-dubbed thing? I'd never heard of it before. Is it like the Daily Telegraph's BLACKJACK thing?

why are these stupid things being made?  Oh, it's because the X-files isn't on anymore - but at least they were interesting, fun, you know.

Aye I guess it's in a similar vein to BlackJack that a French film-maker made a few years back.. and aye it's pretty much a condensed X-Files box-set..

Thanks I try and make a point to find out everything I can about things that I am not sure of. Its something that still could be true even though these pictures are from a movie. I will continue my search for the truth, and hopefully be able to have irrefutable evidence. 

No problem!

[shure]

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[shure]

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[shure]

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Thanks,
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[Dig]

Why don't you name the film:

"Watch how I take good hearted American Citizens and make them feel like total shit for not agreeing with my disinfo..."

Hey look the same practices you use have been revealed by CoIntelPro agents over 40 years ago:

"Evidence of Revision (5 of 5) RFK, MK ULTRA and Jonestown": http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8273110340777778333


Notice how the repeated bullshit interrogations use the same logic?

"That is not what I saw"

YES IT IS!!!!

"But that is not what I saw"

YES IT IS!!!!

[Dig]

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Why don't you name the film:

"Watch how I take good hearted American Citizens and make them feel like total shit for not agreeing with my disinfo..."

Hey look the same practices you use have been revealed by CoIntelPro agents over 40 years ago:

"Evidence of Revision (5 of 5) RFK, MK ULTRA and Jonestown": http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8273110340777778333


Notice how the repeated bullshit interrogations use the same logic?

"That is not what I saw"

YES IT IS!!!!

"But that is not what I saw"

YES IT IS!!!!

[Optimus]

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You should call this film "9/11 disinfo: Pumping out continuos pieces of bullshit".

[iks83]

you pump out a cesspit

[White Rose Sophie]

Okay, I'm gonna enter this fray. I didn't see mention of this on this thread anywhere.

I don't believe a commercial passenger airline hit the Pentagon, or got blasted in Shanksville.  I think all these arguments hinge on WTC 2.

Do most people here believe an passenger plane hit the Pentagon?

Ok, if they don't, then WHAT did? A missile?

And what happened to all the 'people' that were supposedly on that plane that did/did not hit?  Has anyone done any research whatsoever - contacted any of those victim's families?  Or the ones who were on the other 'flights'?

Is this information somewhere else on the forum and I just missed it?

 

[Dig]

Okay, I'm gonna enter this fray. I didn't see mention of this on this thread anywhere.

I don't believe a commercial passenger airline hit the Pentagon, or got blasted in Shanksville.  I think all these arguments hinge on WTC 2.

Do most people here believe an passenger plane hit the Pentagon?

Ok, if they don't, then WHAT did? A missile?

And what happened to all the 'people' that were supposedly on that plane that did/did not hit?  Has anyone done any research whatsoever - contacted any of those victim's families?  Or the ones who were on the other 'flights'?

Is this information somewhere else on the forum and I just missed it?

 

Well, if you go to the pentagon area, you will find people discussing that.  as far as the towers, they were definitely planes and they were passenger size.

The problem with some of the arguments regarding the pentagon unfortunately is that the most passionate people pushing no plane were the pentaCON guys and they ended up pissing off so many people.  They would interview someone and then change the tone of the interview adding very disparaging information such that any random witnesses became camera shy because of how PentaCON guys treated those witnesses. 

So, there are a lot of discussions regarding the forensic evidence of the pentagon in the pentagon room: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=356.0

[mr anderson]

Okay, I'm gonna enter this fray. I didn't see mention of this on this thread anywhere.

I don't believe a commercial passenger airline hit the Pentagon, or got blasted in Shanksville.  I think all these arguments hinge on WTC 2.

Do most people here believe an passenger plane hit the Pentagon?

Ok, if they don't, then WHAT did? A missile?

And what happened to all the 'people' that were supposedly on that plane that did/did not hit?  Has anyone done any research whatsoever - contacted any of those victim's families?  Or the ones who were on the other 'flights'?

Is this information somewhere else on the forum and I just missed it?

 

A-3 Skywarrior is my bet.

Small fighter aircraft that can be fitted with a missile.

THE PENTAGON ATTACK PAPERS
by Barbara Honegger

Published in the 9/11 Expose Book
THE TERROR CONSPIRACY by Jim Marrs

http://www.Patriotsquestion911.com

http://physics911.net/pdf/honegger.pdf

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=41936.msg493316#msg493316

'This Army financial management/audit area is part of, or contiguous to, the Army personnel offices, which was one of two main west section offices heavily destroyed in the Pentagon attack, the other being the Naval Command Center. The day before 9/11, September 10, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld held a press conference at which he acknowledged that the Pentagon was “missing”—could not account for and needed to “find”—$2.3 Trillion dollars (other reports said $2.6 Trillion). Were the auditors who could “follow the money,” and the computers whose data could help them do it, intentionally targeted? It is worth noting that the Pentagon’s top financial officer at the time, Dov Zakheim, who also acknowledged the “missing” trillions, had a company that specializes in aircraft remote- control technology. As remnants found in the Pentagon wreckage have been identified as the front-hub assembly of the front compressor of a JT8D turbojet engine used in the A-3 Sky Warrior jet fighter, [5] and as Air Force A-3 Sky Warriors—normally piloted planes—were secretly retrofitted to be remote-controlled drones and fitted with missiles in a highly compartmented operation at an airport near Ft. Collins-Loveland Municipal Airport in Colorado in the months before 9/11, [6] the question further arises as to whether Pentagon auditors and their computerized data were intentionally targeted on 9/11.'

[5] The 9/11 Conspiracy, Catfeet Press/Open Court, James Fetzer, editor, 2006, chapter by Prof. James Fetzer; and photos of a JT8D turbojet engine and the remnant found at the Pentagon at Link doesn't work.

[6] Report by two civilian defense contractor employees at “Secret Global Hawk Refit for Sky Warrior,” http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/05/318250.shtml.

'It is important to note that bomb explosion(s) at 9:32 am on the ground floor of the west section of the Pentagon are not inconsistent with there having also been a later, or even near-simultaneous, impact by some airborne object -- a piloted plane, unmanned drone, or missile -- into the same or nearby section of the building, which may have been the cause of the collapse of the west wall section approximately 20 minutes after the initial violent event. Indeed, if a heat-seeking missile hit the building after the bomb(s) went off, the heat from the explosion(s) would become the target for the missile. Recall that the A-3 Sky Warrior planes were retrofitted shortly before 9/11, not only enabling them to be remotely controlled but also fitted with missiles. The round- shaped exit hole in the inner wall of the “C” Ring is evidence that a missile or a piloted or pilot-less remote- controlled plane significantly smaller than Flight 77 also struck the building subsequent to bombs going off and penetrated the inside of the third ring, as bomb detonations would not have resulted in such a near-symmetrical round-shaped opening'.

[White Rose Sophie]

Well, if you go to the pentagon area, you will find people discussing that.  as far as the towers, they were definitely planes and they were passenger size.


So, there are a lot of discussions regarding the forensic evidence of the pentagon in the pentagon room: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=356.0

Thanks.  I'll have a look.   

[GoingEtheric]

disinfo corner.. lol

misdirection junction
Langley Lane

[TheGoodFight1984]

misdirection junction

ha!

it was 'maroon corner' but it got obama'd. (changed)

I like disinfo corner better tbh.

[9/11 in movies]

Just watch and see.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2523901/wtc_missile_strike_on_911/

[M3rcy]

wtf 

[Chigs]

Yeah, ive seen that before, there's one gut has a you tube vid showing four channels coverage sycronized two show planes and two dont I believe   ..... don't really know what to make o that  ... could be disinfo to make "conspiracy nuts" look mad 

[KarnEvil9]

It hit the other side. Watch other vids and compare.

[Atomgrad]

It`s a lo def video, you can see the plane on the right hand side of the screen, it comes in from the top of the screen and hits the tower. You just cant see the wings because of the quality of the video.

[Chigs]

Yeah recon you could be onto something with the quality angle...

[9/11 in movies]

I wasn't implying that there wasn't something there.but it wasn't no plane.

Just look how fast it drops it came from the sky and fell at an impossible speed.

[Atomgrad]

Impossible speed?

What does that mean exactly?

What are you proposing?

[9/11 in movies]

Impossible?...You know,can't be done.Only thing that could move like that would be a missile.

[Atomgrad]

Impossible?...You know,can't be done.Only thing that could move like that would be a missile.

Can`t be done.

Only thing that could move that fast.

Not an impossible speed then.

But for your imformation, the object flying at "impossible speeds," has been calculated to be travelling at just over 500miles an hour. Hardly an impossible speed, and because the shot is taken from above the buildings, the angle of downward trajectory is impossible to figure out.

There is far superior quality footage of that shot available on the net, and on this site as it happens, which clearly shows the object has wings and a rear stabiliser fin and appears to be a plane. There are also other clips taken from various locations which, just as clearly show the angle of it`s flight path, from either side of the towers. It flys in at a shallow downward angle in those clips.

As Burlguy says, do some checking, it`s a well documented clip, it appears in no plane theory vids and their relevant debunking vids, which again, you can find on this site.

[9/11 in movies]

Sorry I should have said for a 747.But I did say dropped at an impossible speed.

The goverment attacked and killed about 3000 people,that's what most people at this site think right?Explosives were set inside the building,that's what it looked like right?Why is it so impossible for you to believe it was a missile?

[akasha]

youre disinfo is obvious and pathetic  why could you possibly want to protect an establishment that kills innocent people?

youre either sold out because of money...  or youve been forced to do this against your will...  either way your ignorant acts are evil and will lead to nothing but illusory satisfaction that is temporarily unlike the light of truth that comes from the universal Source of inspiration and love.

quit while youre ahead

[New World Hitler]

Weren't the towers designed to withstand impacts from aircraft?