DISINFO CORNER: NO PLANES / VIDEO FAKERY / SPACE LASERS

[EvadingGrid]

Only if by "debunked" you mean smeared and had false statements made about her, and having the evidence she highlights ignored or misrepresented.

Can you address the various points made in the article for example?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=945.0

[Freeski]

That was a very interesting read, thanks.

[verita5]

Can you address the various points made in the article for example?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=945.0

So no, you can't.

You've just proved the author of the article right, the article that you probably haven't even read.  Was it you that moved the thread as well?

Why was it moved at all, and why was it moved to this particular subforum, which isn't even relevant?

[jimd3100]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-558096240694803017#

http://www.livevideo.com/video/genghis6199/40E66118152B4F67A2A6DB2116712B6C/judy-wood-debunked-in-6-minute.aspx

Have fun frolicking in the BS section. I think I've wasted enough time here

[verita5]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-558096240694803017#

http://www.livevideo.com/video/genghis6199/40E66118152B4F67A2A6DB2116712B6C/judy-wood-debunked-in-6-minute.aspx

Have fun frolicking in the BS section. I think I've wasted enough time here

So the "debunkers" can post smear videos and links to threads full of similar smears and insults, but they don't actually address the evidence at all.

Hence, they have debunked nothing, except the idea that the evidence is what matters to them.

It's as if they are actively trying to reinforce the message of the article posted in the OP.)

[jimd3100]

So the "debunkers" can post smear videos and links to threads full of similar smears and insults, but they don't actually address the evidence at all.

Hence, they have debunked nothing, except the idea that the evidence is what matters to them.

It's as if they are actively trying to reinforce the message of the article posted in the OP.)

You seem like a really smart fella. Surely by now you have figured out that the prison planet forum is run by Zionist gatekeepers desperately trying to keep the truth of no planes and super duper secret energy weapons from the masses. We are here to keep the real truth from being exposed. Have fun frolicking in the BS section. And spread the word....the PP forum treats no planers and DEW cultists like dirt.

[Viper]

...the PP forum treats no planers and DEW cultists like dirt.

The "Christian" way,  Sorry Jim, i'm just pissed at all the trolls posting bs to discourage, to promote epathy.
I know you have a point, some folks throw it all ways though.
The chilled people when face with opposition get apathetic, the energetic ones get angry and rebel.

[Freeski]

You seem like a really smart fella. Surely by now you have figured out that the prison planet forum is run by Zionist gatekeepers desperately trying to keep the truth of no planes and super duper secret energy weapons from the masses. We are here to keep the real truth from being exposed. Have fun frolicking in the BS section. And spread the word....the PP forum treats no planers and DEW cultists like dirt.

Jim, with all due respect, that's crazy talk. This post alone will scare many away from the very topic of directed energy weapons, 9/11 aside, and that's sad because the truth is you nor I have a f**king clue what sort of technolgy "they" probably have. To rule anything out is pointless IMO.

[Dig]

Jim, with all due respect, that's crazy talk. This post alone will scare many away from the very topic of directed energy weapons, 9/11 aside, and that's sad because the truth is you nor I have a f**king clue what sort of technolgy "they" probably have. To rule anything out is pointless IMO.

sorry to say...

the mini nuke/energy weapon stuff is disinfo.

there is over 100 pieces of evidence concerning why that jimd3100 has exposed in this very thread.

it is very difficult to declare that this is ruled out without any research when tremdous research has already been done.

if you wish to debate a source or an argument in the research found within this thread, that makes more sense than the crazy talk about "This post alone will scare many away from the very topic of directed energy weapons"

Bullshit; this site goes into great detail about the history, use, and future agenda of energy weapons in scores of threads and thousands of posts.

[lee51]

http://www.henrymakow.com/911_-_nukes_caused_this_devast.html

[agentbluescreen]

Yes, the crime of ignoring the Committee of Concerned Scientists and Einstein by NOT turning over (fostering permanent Cold War) nuclear weapons of mass destruction technology and weapons after WWII to safe and solely multinational-allied possession and custody (an expanded NATO or the UN) thus creating the Warsaw Pact and enslaving America and the entire world to permanent war, permanently enthroned military industrialism, permanently enthroned and polarized established religionism, permanent standing army tyranny and unconstitutional CIA MAFIA criminality forever did cause The Daniel Chapter 8 Show, but established religionism, enthroned corporatism, Thermate and explosives brought the buildings down.

[kushfiend]

Mini nuke + nano thermite + scalar weaponry is my best guess. Possible use of secret star wars satelitte tech as well - supposedly only for stopping enemy missiles ..... Riiiight.

Crazy pics in the link - a nuke would help explain all the melted cars and cancer in the air

[Dok]

interesting

[iks83]

oh my god... the most retarded thing ive seen since quite some time. the pictures alone....

[Freeski]

oh my god... the most retarded thing ive seen since quite some time. the pictures alone....

The pictures are retarded?

[Anti_Illuminati]

There would be enough radiation if "mini-nukes" were used to cause many people that lived near that area to die from radiation poisoning, or be currently suffering from it.  Nano-thermite is more powerful than most realize:

As a quick aside, I want to point out something in reference to:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=118021.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RNyaoYR3y0

It is possible that nano-super thermite used on 911 was all that was required to pulverize the necessary structures into the finest particles ever seen from a demolition.  To be 100% objective, all of the information regarding the power of nano-superthermite is at least 3 years after 911 and in some cases only approximately 2 years old.  The point in this is that obviously technology would advance and increase its power to far beyond what would have existed back when the false flag was executed.  There is no documentation available that I have seen that shows how capable (the exact detonation velocity capable then) this highly engineered material was in 2001.  In my opinion it was easily far more powerful than TNT/dynamite in 2001.  According to the following source, it is now more powerful than RDX, and even c4 (because C4 detonates at approx 9,000 m/sec, and nano-superthermite can detonate at 10,000 m/sec).

Again, the bottom line --in my opinion (based on research), no other explosive compounds were necessary (that is not to say that none would not or were possibly used, this just shows that there is evidence, albeit much more recent sourcing, that supports my statements).

http://ematerials.org/Meeting11-2006.html

- Technical Sessions

Wednesday, 15 November 2006: 12:30 PM-3:00 PM
Continental 9 (Hilton San Francisco)

Energetics (03e)

#0 - Nano-Energetic Materials (03E00)
This session aims to encompass research in the area of the formation of reactive nanoparticles and their application in energetic systems. Contributions are solicited addressing both experimental and theoretical aspects of reaction kinetics, processing, and characterization of energetic materials involving nanoreactants.
Chair:    Jan A. Puszynski
Professor
Chemical and Biological Engineering
South Dakota School of Mines and Technology
501 E. St. Joseph Street
Rapid City, SD 57701
Phone Number: 605-394-1230
Fax Number: 605-394-1232
Email: Jan.Puszynski@sdsmt.edu
CoChair:    Bruce Cranford
Conslultant
1 Cliffe Hill Ct
Potomac, MD 20854
Phone Number: 301-340-0052
Email: Bruce-Cranford-PE@comcast.net
* Membership Number 134038
12:30 PM         
   Role of Nano-Particles in Energetic Materials Development

Vladimir Hlavacek, Chemical and Biological Engineering, University at Buffalo, 303 Furnas Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260

If the solid-solid reaction is strongly exothermic a rich spectrum of completely new phenomena can occur. Many exothermic solid-solid reactions as, for example, aluminothermic operations and intermetallic processes are far more energetic than energetic substances which can detonate, as for instance TNT or RDX Therefore, some time ago we asked an interesting question: Is it possible to find conditions under which the solid-solid reactions listed above will detonate ? The rapid and violent form of energy release, called detonation, is caused by a shock wave propagating into the energetic material. This shock heats the material by compressing it and thus triggering a chemical reaction. Eventually a balance is attained such that the chemical reaction supports the shock. In this process material is consumed several order of magnitude (103-108) faster than in a flame, making detonation easily distinguishable from other energy release processes.

For example, a good solid explosive converts energy at a rate 1010 W/cm2 in the detonation front. For perspective, this is hundred times higher energy flux than regular laser or energy beam. Our analysis of the problem reveals that four different regimes of operation can exist: kinetic, slow SHS deflagration, fast SHS deflagration and SHS detonation. The kinetic regime is extremely slow and is important only in corrosion science. A typical SHS reaction, which have been studied so far is of the type of slow SHS deflagration. If mixture of ultra-fine particles is thermally initiated, the velocity of propagation are in the range of 10-800m/s and we refer to this regime as a fast deflagration SHS. However, if such a mixture of powders is initiated by a shock wave a fast detonation regime can result with velocities 4-10km/s.

We call this regime a SHS detonation regime. The lecture will discuss following problems: • reactivity and shear stress • stored energy in nano-particles • reaction and role of diffusion • ultra-fine particles and detonation • potential for the new type of explosives • nano-sized slurries in hydrocarbons • amorphous carbon as fuel

1:10 PM         
   Experimental and Modeling Studies of Self-Sustaining Reactions between Nanopowders

Chris J. Bulian, Chemical and Biological Engineering, South Dakota School of Mines and Technology, 501 E. St. Joseph Street, Rapid City, SD 57701, Stanley Smith, Black Hills State University, Spearfish, SD 57799, and Jan A. Puszynski, S.D. School of Mines and Technology, Chemistry and Chem. Eng. Dept., 501 E. St. Joseph Street, Rapid City, SD 57701.

During the past several years, a significant effort has been on investigation of reaction front propagation and the rate of energy release in heterogeneous systems consisting of nanopowder reactants1,2. Substantial size reduction of each reactant powder (e.g. from micro- to nano-size) leads to increase of reaction front propagation in some systems under unconfined conditions by approximately two to three order of magnitude3. This is accomplished when nano-sized fuel and oxidizer particles are mixed. The scaling of these reactants to the nano-scale has allowed for several capabilities and applications that were not previously possible with conventional micro-sized thermite mixtures.

A significant size reduction of reactant powders allows more intimate contact. As a consequence of this significant reduction of size, new issues such as dispersion and mixing of reactants, safety, and surface functionalization of fuel particles in order to minimize potential undesired reaction with oxygen and water vapor must be addressed.4 Contemporary work in this area primarily revolves around experimental effort; therefore, there is a need to develop reliable models describing propagation of reaction fronts which are accompanied by gas expansion in different geometric configurations. Prior modeling studies involving strongly exothermic heterogeneous reactions focused primarily on two general types of systems.

The first considers “gasless” conductively driven combustion fronts whereas the second describes combustion fronts propagated by exothermic reaction a solid reactant and gas which is transported to the reaction zone through the porous structure (filtered combustion).5, 6 This contribution will focus on both experimental and modeling studies of reaction front propagation in cylindrical tubes. Different cylindrical setups with one or both ends open are considered. Experimental results have revealed that the combustion front velocity in “almost” gasless reacting system consisting of aluminum and iron oxide nanopowders is very sensitive to the place of reaction initiation within the cylindrical tube and configuration setup.

In addition, another reacting system consisting of aluminum and copper oxide nano-reactants, which is characterized by partial vaporization of reaction products, was investigated using similar geometric configurations. Experimental determination of kinetic constants for both heterogeneous reacting systems was done using differential scanning calorimetry. Utilizing this data, mathematical models describing reaction front propagation in cylindrical tubes in the presence of gas expansion were developed. The effect of pressure generation due to inert gas expansion in porous matrix and/or partial product vaporization as well as reactant composition, porosity, and geometric setup on dynamic characteristics, such as temperature, pressure, conversion, reaction zone dimension, and gas velocity will be discussed.

References 1. C.E. Aumann, G.L. Skofronick, and J.A. Martin, Journal of Vacuum Science & Technology B 13(2): 1178-1183 (1995). 2. C.J. Bulian, T.T. Kerr, and J.A. Puszynski, “Ignition Studies of Aluminum and Metal Oxides Nanopowders”, The International Pyrotechnics Society, 31st International Pyrotechnics Seminar, Fort Collins, Co, 327-338, (2004). 3. S.F. Son, H.L., B.W. Asay, J.R. Busse, B.S. Jorgensen, B. Bockmon, and M. Pantoya, “Reaction Propagation Physics of Al/MoO3 Nanocomposite Thermites,” The International Pyrotechnics Society, 28th International Pyrotechnics Seminar, Adelaide, Australia, November 4-9, 2001. 4. J.A. Puszynski, C.J. Bulian, and J.J. Swiatkiewicz, “The Effect of Nanopowder Attributes on Reaction Mechanism and Ignition Sensitivity of Nanothermites”, 2005 MRS Proceedings, Boston, MA, Nov 28 – Dec 2, 2005 (in print). 5. A.G. Merzhanov, “Theory and Practice of SHS: Worldwide State of the Art and the Newest Results,” International Journal of Self-Propagating High-Temperature Synthesis, vol. 2, no. 2, pp. 113-158, 1993. 6. A. Varma, A.S. Rogachev, A.S. Mukasyan, and S. Hwang, “Combustion Synthesis of Advanced Materials: Principles and Applications,” Adv. in Chem. Eng., vol. 24, pp. 79-225, 1998.

[Viper]

The pictures are retarded?

The melted cars is a real puzzler ain't it freeski.

[agentbluescreen]

Crazy pics in the link - a nuke would help explain all the melted cars and cancer in the air

No Thermate and Asbestos do. Extensive investigations of the WTC SIte by many independent investigators showed absolutely normal background radiation readings there is no single shred of evidence to support such a ridiculous notion.

ALL "intrinsically unshieldable" exploding or imploding nuclear explosive-weapon detonations produce prodigious EM fields (wideband radio wave Electro Magnetic noise pulses - EMP static) evidence during the detonation, and unavoidable radioactive fallout, produce gamma ray burns, and leave radioactive particulates behind. Cameras, TV And Radio would not have functioned during such events.

Only at the Pentagon was the latter evidence (extraordinarily high vaporized radioactive particulates and radiation fallout readings) uncovered which indicated a conventional "Penetrator" MWS warhead-explosive with "hardbacked-stage"- DU steel was used indicating a cruise missile with AUP warhead.

The problem at the Pentagon was so serious the so-called "investigators" and cleanup (cover-up) workers required rad suits and decontamination facilities. (also under "tents"  lol)

[chris jones]

I am with hope the day is approaching for an independent investigation. 911.
The basis of facts concerning the function of, FAA, Air Controll. Ground Controll, NORAD,FBI,CIA,M.I.,NSA,
to name but a few. Were each and every agency criminally negligent?
Yes, the method of destruction is indeed a priority, however so is the investigation as to why each and every defensive structure were out to lunch. That alone should have opened the eyes of the people, though it did not, the televised imagery and following orchestrated rage of the leadership demanded retribution. Is anyone reminded of the Pear Harbor attack.

[donnay]

I would not be surprised to fine out mini nukes were used--I often wondered after I saw the thermal hot spots of ground zero.

Thermal hot spots detected by satellite on September 16, 2001. Red and orange indicate the hottest locations. The World Trade Center Twin Towers footprint is in the lower center and the center of World Trade Center Building 7 is in the upper right. [Source: USGS]

[kushfiend]

ABS - so a nuke of some type may have been used at the pentagon?  That would help explain the pentagon-lawn being unscathed after w supposed jumbo jet flew right into it...

I am not sure if it was a cruise missile or possibly some pre planted explosives made to look like a missile strike? Who knows how they were goin to try to blame originally, maybe they had intent of blaming an actual country like Russia but decided cave terrorists were better? Who knows.

[Blows Against the Empire]

 Well I never go the mini nuke route but glad to see a picture of all the burnt out cars resurface as this was something I saw at one time in my research and never downloaded.

 Not that I would count out the possibility of some nuclear technology we are unfamiliar with, but if you are going to try to use such an idea to reach a zombie just be aware you have set yourself up to now have to defeat the images of the massive nuclear tests most of us have burned in our brains, whether from actual footage or re-use/facsimile recreations in movies etc.

 I have also never run across any reports of excessive radiation readings from the area to support this.

[Overcast]

I found the pictures of the steel beam 'dissolving' quite interesting.

BTW; I picked up a 9/11 video made by CNN at the Pawn Shop for 2 bucks, nice to have older footage to look over. I'll have to try and see if I can find that.

[Dig]

I found the pictures of the steel beam 'dissolving' quite interesting.

BTW; I picked up a 9/11 video made by CNN at the Pawn Shop for 2 bucks, nice to have older footage to look over. I'll have to try and see if I can find that.

nanothermite will cause that easy as pie.

Same with the cars. Check the residue and do chem analysis as was done by AE911TRUTH.

The nanothermite explosions and all of the car bombs that were set off according to eyewitness testimony and recordings from police as well as the text beeper messages seems to indicate that no 4th generation zionukes were required in this Rothschild/Rockefeller false flag operation.

It is very odd that Judge Judy does not acknowledge this and instead insists that people focus on zionukes or whatever.

[bigron]

I was also very impressed with the pictures of the steel beams turning into DUST

Can anybody explain that

I also think that we cannot totally dismiss this post......I am sure that there are lots
of aspects that contribute to finding of the truth.....

The pictures of the cars and nearby buildings are things that I've never seen before.....

lee51  !    Thanks for posting !

[Blows Against the Empire]

I was also very impressed with the pictures of the steel beams turning into DUST

Can anybody explain that

I also think that we cannot totally dismiss this post......I am sure that there are lots
of aspects that contribute to finding of the truth.....

The pictures of the cars and nearby buildings are things that I've never seen before.....

lee51  !    Thanks for posting !

Other angles of the beams:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWBBEtA5bI

[kushfiend]

nanothermite will cause that easy as pie.

Same with the cars. Check the residue and do chem analysis as was done by AE911TRUTH.

The nanothermite explosions and all of the car bombs that were set off according to eyewitness testimony and recordings from police as well as the text beeper messages seems to indicate that no 4th generation zionukes were required in this Rothschild/Rockefeller false flag operation.

It is very odd that Judge Judy does not acknowledge this and instead insists that people focus on zionukes or whatever.

Dig - I had not heard of these car bombs you speak of! I knew they started blowin out the basements early and used WTC 7 as the dumpin point for early dead bodies as I'm sure you knew but I didnt know about the car bombs! Interesting stuff for sure

[agentbluescreen]

ABS - so a nuke of some type may have been used at the pentagon?  That would help explain the pentagon-lawn being unscathed after w supposed jumbo jet flew right into it...

I am not sure if it was a cruise missile or possibly some pre planted explosives made to look like a missile strike? Who knows how they were goin to try to blame originally, maybe they had intent of blaming an actual country like Russia but decided cave terrorists were better? Who knows.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=164982.msg985108#msg985108
Re: What actually hit the Pentagon: an old stone apparently left unturned


enjoy the whole thread!

[lamourlady]

Other angles of the beams:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWBBEtA5bI

Whoa!  As they fell they WERE like pure dust.  That is just mind-boggling.  I don't know anything about mini-nukes or even the thermite destructive powers on these remaining parts of the tower, but it is right there in black and white that they are indeed completely disintegrated as they topple over.  Very interesting.

[bigron]

Other angles of the beams:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWBBEtA5bI

Thanks for this link.........first time for me.......

[Blows Against the Empire]

Thanks for this link.........first time for me.......

 I thought your response to the stills suggested you had not seen this. You're welcome.



 Great vid to use in a "the core and part of the outer wall of the North Tower 'wanted' to stand" approach to debunk full collapse systematically.

[Freeski]

nanothermite will cause that easy as pie.

Same with the cars. Check the residue and do chem analysis as was done by AE911TRUTH.

The nanothermite explosions and all of the car bombs that were set off according to eyewitness testimony and recordings from police as well as the text beeper messages seems to indicate that no 4th generation zionukes were required in this Rothschild/Rockefeller false flag operation.

It is very odd that Judge Judy does not acknowledge this and instead insists that people focus on zionukes or whatever.

This is the best video I've seen of the "disintegrating" spire.

7:30-8:30 (close-up at 8:20)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOvQH9khMsU

Can naothermite really do this?

[Blows Against the Empire]

 It's definitely nasty stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylIGRfhJQU

[Freeski]

It's definitely nasty stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylIGRfhJQU

Nasty for sure! But it looks like you'd need an absolute shitload of thermite for the 9/11 job would you not? In this clip, it made an extremely hot fire (I think they said 2,000 degrees) HOT! But it isn't near hot enough to disintegrate steel. It may melt it over time, but there ain't no time in the case of the WTC.

Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm certainly no expert.

[citizenx]

Thermite would not melt or pulverize all the steel.  I still don't believe these images prove massive amounts of steel were pulverized.  Thermite/Thermate would be used to cut the steel in strategic places for a professional demolition which 9/11 was -- using state-of-the-art nanothermite/thermate apparently.  (No amateur job.)

I still have to say, "No nukes".  There are a lot of areas re. 9/11 where I have serious questions still, but that isn't one of them.

[Freeski]

Thermite would not melt or pulverize all the steel.  I still don't believe these images prove massive amounts of steel were pulverized.  Thermite/Thermate would be used to cut the steel in strategic places for a professional demolition which 9/11 was -- using state-of-the-art nanothermite/thermate apparently.  (No amateur job.)

I still have to say, "No nukes".  There are a lot of areas re. 9/11 where I have serious questions still, but that isn't one of them.

So do you think there were mass quantities of debris moved from Ground Zero to Fresh Kills and then to China?

[citizenx]

Yes, I believe they scrubbed that crime scene clean.  Is there any proof they didn't?

[Freeski]

Yes, I believe they scrubbed that crime scene clean.  Is there any proof they didn't?

Scrubbing it clean is a good way to put it. But that's so ridiculous it actually gives credence to the pulverisation angle. I mean why would they be so desperate to get rid of the rubble?

[citizenx]

Because of the massive evidence of thermite/thermate/cutting and other conventional explosives.

It just wan't possible to clean up everything - just make it less obvious and more difficult to prove, but Architects & Engineers for Truth have done exactly that IMO.

[Freeski]

Because of the massive evidence of thermite/thermate/cutting and other conventional explosives.

It just wan't possible to clean up everything - just make it less obvious and more difficult to prove, but Architects & Engineers for Truth have done exactly that IMO.

Maybe.