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« Reply #520 on: April 03, 2010, 09:45:17 AM »

Dear Donald Rumsfeld,
 We here @ Prison Planet Forum are having an open, equal and free thinking, rational debate over here on a 9/11 issue, and we know you or one of your buds there, (Shooter Cheney maybe?..or Mr. Larry "Lets pull it" Silverstein?) can clear this lil quagmire up for us? We need to know, what was used on WTC 1 & 2, and 7. Was it mini-nukes, or was it conventional explosives w/ thermite cutters??
Please end this silly argument for us so we can carry on to more important things like finding out who really did this to us.
Thanks for all you've done so far...
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A REAL American Patriot

PS: Have CC'd copies to Bush(s), Cheney, Rice, Silverstein
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« Reply #521 on: April 28, 2010, 04:31:08 PM »

I am not a proponent of Israel/Mossad/Zionist-extremist only theories, but here is a good article today linking Ehud Barak and Israel to nanothermite company before and on 911:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/aritcle.asp?ID=12608

Again, no nukes!
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« Reply #522 on: April 29, 2010, 01:41:04 AM »




   http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44286/NEW_9_11_VIDEO_MISSILE_STRIKE_PENTAGON/
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« Reply #523 on: April 29, 2010, 01:44:41 AM »

*Sigh* I wish these Pentagon theories would go away ... all they have ever done is discredit the hard science and documented facts.
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« Reply #524 on: April 29, 2010, 02:12:12 AM »

First,  I am confused at where the fly over video came from. I can't find the source video at the moment.
Second, what is the AA object and where did that AA object photo come from.
Third, it has always dumbfounded me why people don't focus on the negligence, and prior knowledge to prove that 9/11 was a false flag event. Why try to prove the most difficult questions of 9/11; when all you need to prove is that there was a botched investigation. That would be enough to reopen any case. 

*Sigh* I wish these Pentagon theories would go away ... all they have ever done is discredit the hard science and documented facts.

This I completely agree with.
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« Reply #525 on: April 29, 2010, 08:39:57 AM »




http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/16052/9_11_commissioner_slips_up__Missile_hit_Pentagon/


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Former 9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer slips up and says a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11. George W. Bush also slips up and describes explosives in the World Trade Center towers. Donald Rumsfeld slips up as well saying that United 93 was shot down in Pennsylvania.

Silverstein slips up and says that they pulled WTC 7.

The really don't care if they slip up. They've got away with it. They're all laughing at us.
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« Reply #526 on: April 29, 2010, 01:23:22 PM »


This is all circumstantial evidence. 
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« Reply #527 on: May 05, 2010, 03:57:41 AM »

Daniel Estulin has resurrected his blog and, among other things, has started posting some parts of a video containing an interview made to a former "nuclear intelligence officer" of the Soviet military where the latter explains how the WTC towers were demolished through the use of nuclear devices.

This is an absolute must-see!

http://www.3truth911.com/911_WTC_nuclear_demolition_Dimitri_Khalezov_part01.mp4

(Just keep changing the numbers in the url field from "part01" to "part02", etc, until "part26".)


The interview seems to be incomplete, since that at the end of "part26", the interviewer talks about further statements about to be made by the interviewed, but I can't find any more parts of this video.

Estulin has only published "part07" and 08 in his blog so far, and has posted in his Facebook page a week ago a warning that the Thai and American governments were on the brink of shutting down the server were some "videos about secrets of September 11" he was downloading were being hosted, so I don't know if the missing part(?) is one of those videos or not. We'll wait and see.

In the meantime, for those of you in a hurry, the core of the "nuclear demolition" explanation is from "part07" to "part16".


Like the former officer claims in "part22", his statements about no planes being used to attack the WTC, are just his personal opinion, and not a fact that he knows for sure, like the case of the "nuclear demolition" of the WTC.

Personally, I'm still not sure what to think about the planes, and the author (a former dedicated government officer, who surely would have a hard time believing that a government would be capable of killing it's own citizens) doesn't explain how and why would then the US government, in such a short notice, be able to fabricate the images that were presented to the whole world, a few minutes after the attacks... But all I will say about the "nuclear demolition" explanation is that everything adds up!

Watch the video and make your own judgment.

Also, perhaps a good idea is to save it, since the associated web site that is referenced at the end of each part (the functioning one is the one that ends with ".cn") also talks about the possibility of this type of videos being pulled off the Internet at any time.
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« Reply #528 on: May 05, 2010, 09:53:55 AM »

I could not get any of them to work.  They are removed, down, and could not be displayed.  That was quick!  Must have had a lot of info.
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« Reply #529 on: May 05, 2010, 10:37:48 AM »

I met William Rodriguez in 2006. I saw this vid last month and have had time to think. Mr Rodriguez story and this guys are incompatable. Me thinks this mans story is disinfo. regards
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« Reply #530 on: May 05, 2010, 10:42:26 AM »

Total dis-info

Can not even be bothered to be sarcastic

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« Reply #531 on: May 05, 2010, 04:07:26 PM »

attietewd:

I've just tested the links and they are working. Try again.


EvadingGrid:

I can see from an e-mail warning I've received that you were the one who moved the post to the "Faux Controversies" sub-forum, so I deduce you were also the one who renamed it.
Would you care to explain to me what did you find in the presentation I call people's attention for that lead you to the conclusion that this is disinformation?
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« Reply #532 on: May 05, 2010, 04:15:44 PM »

I see someone deleted my post, too.  But, that's OK.

E.G., I think you were totally right to re-name and move the thread, making my somewhat sarcastic comment unnecessary anyway. And, really, you're right.

This disinfo doesn't deserve anybody's time of day.
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« Reply #533 on: May 05, 2010, 06:51:56 PM »

Now I see that Sane has moved my topic from the "Off Topic / Faux Controversies / Whining Threads / UFO's" sub-forum to the "9/11/2001 Attacks Were An Inside Job > Faux Controversies and Case Studies" one.
Would you please, Sane, also explain to me why does this post not deserve to be part of the open(?) discussion concerning the possible explanations for the WTC collapse, and worthy of the label "faux controversy" or "disinformation"? What arguments presented by the author in question, concerning the collapse of the WTC, do you consider to be blatantly false to the point of you considering them obvious disinformation?
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« Reply #534 on: May 06, 2010, 08:22:42 PM »

Now I see that Sane has moved my topic from the "Off Topic / Faux Controversies / Whining Threads / UFO's" sub-forum to the "9/11/2001 Attacks Were An Inside Job > Faux Controversies and Case Studies" one.
Would you please, Sane, also explain to me why does this post not deserve to be part of the open(?) discussion concerning the possible explanations for the WTC collapse, and worthy of the label "faux controversy" or "disinformation"? What arguments presented by the author in question, concerning the collapse of the WTC, do you consider to be blatantly false to the point of you considering them obvious disinformation?

Now I see that portuguese anarchist has gotten his panties in a twist. Would you please, portuguese anarchist, also explain to me why doesn't this post deserve to be part of the same discussion explored in over 100 posts in explaining the WTC collapse, and not worthy of being a part of said conversation? What arguments presented by the author in question are different that the ones presented by others for the last 8 years, concerning the collapse of the WTC, do you consider to be blatantly true to the point of you considering them obvious truthful information?
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« Reply #535 on: May 06, 2010, 09:32:24 PM »

I'm assuming that you're asking me why does this post not deserve to be part of the "Faux Controversies and Case Studies" 9/11 sub-forum...

I don't know how is it different from other similar(?) posts, because I've never read or watched this kind of explanation before anywhere. (Concerning 9/11, that is. I remember Alex once interviewing a doctor, concerning the Oklahoma City bombing, where the latter said that mini-nukes were also used in this attack. That was the only time I heard or read anything somewhat similar.)

I don't have time to be here making a resume of the presentation and make my own drawings. If you all want to know what the arguments are, just watch the presentation. (I realize that it is quite a long interview, so for those of you who don't have much time, I have left in the post a reference to where the core arguments are made.)

Also, above all, I don't have to justify why should I not be censored (or have my post removed from it's proper/initial place). You, the moderators who moved it, are the ones who have to justify why you did it or, otherwise, let me freely make posts in here in their proper place.
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« Reply #536 on: May 10, 2010, 03:46:33 AM »

(Let's see if this post is not also deleted...)

I'm writing to warn people that, I don't know why but, there are two missing posts in this conversation that I just realized were deleted by someone with the power to in this forum.

And this are: a first one calling people's attention to the existence of torrents of the presentation I talk about (that has no copyright warning whatsoever), and a second were I publish a warning I've received from the forum via e-mail of yet another replacement of my initial post (that I have every right to tell people about), that led me to the decision of leaving this forum:

Quote from: portuguese anarchist on: 07 May 2010, 04:56
The web site seems to be down, but I can see there are torrents available on the web.

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"Topic merged: DISINFO CORNER: NO PLANES / VIDEO FAKERY / SPACE LASERS"

"date   Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM"

"A topic you are watching has been merged with another topic by Sane."


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« Reply #537 on: May 10, 2010, 09:47:07 AM »



hope its relevant lol
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« Reply #538 on: May 26, 2010, 03:12:32 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXda5Kn2LAM

Follow that link, watch the video. What do you think? I really can't make a judgment because weren't there a lot of people who did in fact see a plain that were trustworthy eyewitnesses?
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« Reply #539 on: May 26, 2010, 03:15:58 PM »

Was there really a "plane".   Yes, at least three that I know of.  Not so sure about the fourth.
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« Reply #540 on: May 26, 2010, 03:23:07 PM »

Yes there were planes that hit the WTC and pentagon on 9/11.
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« Reply #541 on: May 26, 2010, 03:49:19 PM »

Shanksville was a plane.  That's for sure.  Though much of the wreckage was in another place.
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« Reply #542 on: May 26, 2010, 03:50:43 PM »

Shanksville was a plane.  That's for sure.  Though much of the wreckage was in another place.

Really? That seems least likely to me... I am only disputing the plain that hit tower too so far cuz thats were the evidence is in the video
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« Reply #543 on: May 26, 2010, 03:56:04 PM »

Some of us here question the Pentagon.  Check out the 911 section of the forum.  Don't have the thread handy.

AS for the WTC, the no-planes theories definitely smell a bit of disinfo.  I'm not accusing you.

Anyway, as you know  you can't believe anything you SEE nowadays, one way or another.

Believe half of what you read, and none of what you see.

As the old saying goes,

"Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"
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« Reply #544 on: May 26, 2010, 04:05:07 PM »

Some of us here question the Pentagon.  Check out the 911 section of the forum.  Don't have the thread handy.

AS for the WTC, the no-planes theories definitely smell a bit of disinfo.  I'm not accusing you.

Anyway, as you know  you can't believe anything you SEE nowadays, one way or another.

Believe half of what you read, and none of what you see.

As the old saying goes,

"Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"

Well said!

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« Reply #545 on: May 26, 2010, 04:32:04 PM »

Nope.  No PLAINS. Dumbass.  GROWUP!!!!!
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« Reply #546 on: May 26, 2010, 04:35:09 PM »

Nope.  No PLAINS. Dumbass.  GROWUP!!!!!

Read the forum rules please.
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« Reply #547 on: May 26, 2010, 05:01:54 PM »

Nope.  No PLAINS. Dumbass.  GROWUP!!!!!

I was simply asking a question. No need to bash someone for having an open mind and investigating further into something's possibility
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« Reply #548 on: May 26, 2010, 05:04:52 PM »

Some of us here question the Pentagon.  Check out the 911 section of the forum.  Don't have the thread handy.
AS for the WTC, the no-planes theories definitely smell a bit of disinfo.  I'm not accusing you.
Anyway, as you know  you can't believe anything you SEE nowadays, one way or another
Believe half of what you read, and none of what you see.
As the old saying goes,
"Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"

Ya I only question it because of the audio where people didnt see a plain, then claimed to have seen a plain that they couldnt have seen. But the video evidence seems pretty conclusive to me, the damage to the building is in the shape of a plain as it enters, but it does seem kinda weird that the nose of the plain came out the other end
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« Reply #549 on: May 26, 2010, 05:08:04 PM »

ALRIGHT watch this video now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Hw8sJE3R0&feature=related

See at around 115 that trail that looks like its streaking behind a missile? Thats what I dont get. I see one video where its a plain then another where there is no plain
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« Reply #550 on: May 26, 2010, 05:20:01 PM »

ALRIGHT watch this video now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Hw8sJE3R0&feature=related

See at around 115 that trail that looks like its streaking behind a missile? Thats what I dont get. I see one video where its a plain then another where there is no plain

September Clues is disinformation. Watch Confronting the Evidence.
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« Reply #551 on: May 26, 2010, 05:48:13 PM »

September Clues is disinformation. Watch Confronting the Evidence.

I will, hows it disinformation though....
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« Reply #552 on: May 26, 2010, 05:50:52 PM »

Ya I only question it because of the audio where people didnt see a plain, then claimed to have seen a plain that they couldnt have seen. But the video evidence seems pretty conclusive to me, the damage to the building is in the shape of a plain as it enters, but it does seem kinda weird that the nose of the plain came out the other end

Confusing "plane" and "plain" doesn't help your credibility dude. We all make spelling errors, even me, nobodys perfect. But continuing to make that grammatical error after being corrected numerous times suggests that you are full of sh%t.
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« Reply #553 on: May 26, 2010, 05:54:23 PM »

Confusing "plane" and "plain" doesn't help your credibility dude. We all make spelling errors, even me, nobodys perfect. But continuing to make that grammatical error after being corrected numerous occasions suggests that you are full of sh%t.

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Had to be said! Grin
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« Reply #554 on: May 26, 2010, 05:56:20 PM »

As an English teacher, I concur.  If you continue to make the same spelling/grammatical errors after someone has pointed it out, it looks as if you are intentionally "dumbing it down" for "Joe Six-Pack" -- a definite tell of disinfo people. You might want to cut it out for your own credibility, if not for the sake of the mother tongue (assuming it is your mother tongue).
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« Reply #555 on: May 26, 2010, 06:06:40 PM »

sorry i cannot  help myself

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« Reply #556 on: May 26, 2010, 06:33:15 PM »

sorry i cannot  help myself


hardy hardy har har har,  now that was funny  Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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« Reply #557 on: May 26, 2010, 06:41:11 PM »

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« Reply #558 on: June 01, 2010, 09:00:39 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrRoguep...E1BA9BB3C2F2A8
http://factsnotfairies.blogspot.com/...emolition.html

Now i'm aware that there are many people who do not even want to face up to this senario.
As soon as you use the words No plane, Directed Energy, or Nuke their eyes glaze over. Especially the Richard Gage Thermite worshipers.
What if the reason that we are all debating semantics, is because the definitive proof of what happened on 911 has not been told in sufficient detail yet.

Well as far as i am concerned, regarding the physics involved in bringing down the 3 buildings on 911 is explained ellegantly and thoroughly in this video series.
As for the political implications, well thats another story yet to be told. Soon though all in good time...

Get it while you still can folks, cos youtube are removing these videos all over the place.
I am aware that there are previous links to this video Series, but as links are being pulled i think it is important to give the people who really want the truth the chance to download these and get them viral.
Screw any copyright law, they cant f**king copyright the truth!

Trolls rant all you like, i won't be fueling your ego trips

Come on Infowars restore the faith and report the truth Please.... the people have a right to know
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« Reply #559 on: June 01, 2010, 09:51:09 PM »

What is it with all the 911 nuke crap bubbling to the surface again like refurbished turds?
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