Jay Rockefeller: "Internet is the #1 cause of attacks, it should not exist"

[Dig]

I agree with it, what more is there to say.

As far as all the legislation, that is fine but I believe that endless legislation will not solve our major overbearing problems. If they are not enforcing the constitution, why would they enforce andy subsequent legislation on the general public's behalf?  New legislation is mostly a trick to burden the courts with so many interpretations that only the ones who can afford "their" interpretation benefit.  The constitution is written at an eigth grade level, anyone can understand it and interpret it as it was written.  I support the legislation that Ron Paul has presented, but other than that, I do not see much legislation that I agree with, usually there is some new cancer or parasite attached to it.

I think as AI and Indira Singh said:

We need to start "naming the COMPANIES that are directly involved in the false flags, and other crimes. Because THAT will let them know THAT WE KNOW."

"Unless you throw this right in their face, they're not going to get it that you know."

[Flur]

Here is an analysis from AJ, skip to 8mins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiN2PUKkmvM&feature=related

Starting at around 8 minutes in:





AJ:  He (Obama) can sucker the public 

TM:  Absolutely

AJ:  He can sucker the public better

TM:  And Americans are always on a honeymoon with a new President.  They give him a certain amount of time 

AJ:  And McCain's kinda seen as a Bush III

TM:  Yeah.  McCain as a Bush III.  He's older -- This guy is more vigorous.  He is ready to go.  So when this transformational event that will catapult him into becoming a transformational President, this great event occurs.  It will literally be something so amazing, it will make 9/11 look puny.

AJ:  Well they're saying it's gonna be nukes.  That's an AFP today.  Saying we're gonna get hit by nukes, now I don't know if that's the case.

TM:  If they blame it on Hezbollah or the [sic] Al-Qaeda and say that Iran and Syria masterminded it, it will be discovered by the intelligence agencies that Putin and Russia and somehow the ISI, the intelligence agency of Pakistan were involved.  These are the new enemies of the NEW WORLD ORDER.  But guess what, they have nukes.  This will be World War III and it will end with horrible, horrible destruction.  So don't even think about Wall Street.  I see a little blimp upward.  I see a little sucker rally for people to get involved in.

AJ:  Dead-cat bounce

TM:  The dead-cat bounce.  That's right, they throw it off of the bankers trust building, the tomb of (?) down on Wall Street below and it bounces.  One big bounce.  People get in, they say, "everything is over, everything is gonna be great again."  And by the way, one of the things that they're doing is driving the price of oil down now.  They drove it up, and now the same people, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, their analysts are putting out reports, "Oil is gonna go down--"

AJ:  I was reading that upwards of 90% of the oil speculation was driven by Goldman Sachs

TM:  Yeah.  Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.  They're the only 2 left standing, by the way.. with the great big (inaudible).. on Wall Street.

AJ:  So we have this vertical integration happening

TM:  Yeah, and Goldman Sachs, you have Henry Paulson there and by the way, before him the Clinton Administration had Robert Rubin who came from what Wall Street firm?

AJ:  Goldman Sachs

TM:  Well Goldman Sachs.  And Mr. Neel Kashkari?  Ok?

AJ:  Goldman Sachs

TM: Goldman Sachs!  Of course, there they are!

[Flur]

Colin Powell (Knight's Commander to The Queen of England): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPOeQZdHYw

From:  http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/10/19/transcript-colin-powell-on-meet-the-press-endorses-barack-obama-october-19/



Colin Powell on Meet the Press (October 19th, 2008)


MR. BROKAW:  If you were called into the Oval Office on January 21st by the new president, whoever it happens to be, and he said to you, “General Powell, I need from you your recommendation on where I begin.  What should be my priorities?” Where would you start?

GEN. POWELL:  I would start with talking to the American people and talking to the world, and conveying a new image of American leadership, a new image of America’s role in the world.

The problems will always be there, and there’s going to be a crisis come along in the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now.  And so I think what the president has to do is to start using the power of the Oval Office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and to convince the world that America is solid, America is going to move forward, and we’re going to fix our economic problems, we’re going to meet our overseas obligations.  But restoring a sense of purpose, a sense of confidence in the American people and, in the international community, in America.

[Tsul777]

A Few Standard Sponsers

[Spark of Truth Inc.]

I'm embarassed to an extend, for we're hitting an intelligence wall in this research. Time and effort are ressources we sacrifice, because we follow cuoriosity. But now it's different. AI's research enters a room, where the air might be too thin for people without a sophisticated unterstanding in tech components, systems and the decisive companies and their scope. Maybe a map would help to visualize the players and their compartment in the sceme. I think this is too specialized for Alex, because his starting point would be terms and component descriptions to understand the lingo in this field of research. I might be wrong, but we have to advance or return to a common ground. This info looks to me like we have the obligation to become way more professional and organized to offer this jewel of truth to a broader audience.
I want to support AI in every way he thinks is useful. I want to make sure, that he is zeroing in on these fvckers without the friction of translating what he thinks is obvious to a clueless crowd of not too tech savy truthers.
AI, sorry for talking in 3rd person, I just wanted to get the vibe across the table.
You should take the lead in this.
Assign researchers to certain companies, background checks of managers, systems and components and how this all fits together. A couple of researchers, motivated and coached by you will explain the findings in
their words, gain a deeper level of understanding themselves and gradually suck in more and more of the people, who are overwhelmed by terms and tech lingo abbrevations.

Like you set the course on Sunday to x to research the background of this company and to y to crosscheck the cv of that executive and on the next Sunday you guys meet in a Sunday session thread to discuss findings.

But, whatever you think of this m.o. keep going for the throat. Your the tip of the spear in this, we need you mission oriented and can't afford as a movement to wait until Alex gets up to par.

I'm thankful to benefit from your profound understanding. Release the hounds!   

[Anti_Illuminati]

I'm embarassed to an extend, for we're hitting an intelligence wall in this research.

Allow me to help remove that wall by reiterating the following article (an Infowars article should be made from this, seriously), which in its own ways, in my view, is THE MOST damning article I have ever seen (when you have learned all that is posted here about Ptech) considering THE DATE of this article:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=90254.msg521702#msg521702

Defense Department Will Require IPv6 Compliance, Says DoD's John Osterholz

Market Wire, June 2003

"IPv6 SUMMIT -- John Osterholz, director of architecture and interoperability for the Department of Defense, told a gathering of technology elite that the DoD would phase out purchases of IPv4 network technologies by this fall and would instead begin trials of equipment and applications based on the new IPv6 protocol for the Internet within 30 days. He said the move was intended to build a "Global Information Grid" of Net-Centric operations that was fully distributed, available and secure. He noted that this would be an important part of fighting terrorism and ensuring homeland security.

"Al-Qaeda maintains a low profile and is highly distributed," noted Osterholz. "Until recently, we had no capability to operate similarly, and we understand it is an important capability. They were Net-Centric, we were not. Their command and control capability requires us to have a similar capability."

In his keynote, Osterholz laid out his plans for moving the entire DoD information technology infrastructure -- the world's largest, with an annual IT budget exceeding $30 billion -- into full IPv6 compliance by 2008. This represents an unprecedented move by the Defense Department to approach the entire commercial Internet infrastructure, which includes IPv6 Summit sponsors Cisco (NASDAQ: CSCO), Hewlett-Packard (NYSE: HP), Nokia (NYSE: NOK) and the Verio division of NT&T (NYSE: NTT), with detailed instructions on the networking standards it plans to support.

Historically, the DoD has created or commissioned vendors to build proprietary infrastructure. But the DoD's need for global, immediate access to secure, real-time information has moved the department from an infrastructure of data links between proprietary systems to a secure global enterprise built on the next generation of open systems. Osterholz called this system the Global Information Grid (GIG) and said one of its primary DoD uses will be "predictive battlespace awareness" that combines intelligence and operations technologies in a connected, real-time environment.

"Our soldiers need better information in order to make better decisions -- who to help and who to kill," continued Osterholz. "The lack of security and flexibility in the current IPv4 protocol is a drag on our wing. This isn't about do you trust the Internet for your kid's homework, it's do you trust your kid's life. If we fail, people die."

About the Global IPv6 Summit

IPv6 stands for Internet Protocol, version 6. The current Internet has been using the same technological protocol since it was invented in 1969 and is rapidly running out of domain addresses. IPv6 will allow an expansion from the Internet's current limitation of 4 billion addresses (to a new limit of 380,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, which is a number so great it could supply each person living today with more than 4 billion addresses each). IPv6 also allows for greater built-in security, as well as vastly improved support for mobile users and wireless devices.

The North American IPv6 Global Summit, which started today and continues through Friday, is a world-class conference that is primarily subsidized by the sponsors and SDSU. The Internet Society and 12 other technology and standards organizations endorse it. The Summit also features speeches by Jawad Khaki, Corporate Vice President, Microsoft; Larry Smarr, director of Cal-(IT)2 at the University of California, San Diego, plus many other leading figures in the world of Internet technology and standards."

[mr anderson]

About the Global IPv6 Summit

IPv6 stands for Internet Protocol, version 6. The current Internet has been using the same technological protocol since it was invented in 1969 and is rapidly running out of domain addresses. IPv6 will allow an expansion from the Internet's current limitation of 4 billion addresses (to a new limit of 380,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, which is a number so great it could supply each person living today with more than 4 billion addresses each). IPv6 also allows for greater built-in security, as well as vastly improved support for mobile users and wireless devices.

The North American IPv6 Global Summit, which started today and continues through Friday, is a world-class conference that is primarily subsidized by the sponsors and SDSU. The Internet Society and 12 other technology and standards organizations endorse it. The Summit also features speeches by Jawad Khaki, Corporate Vice President, Microsoft; Larry Smarr, director of Cal-(IT)2 at the University of California, San Diego, plus many other leading figures in the world of Internet technology and standards."

So if they wanted we could have a virus, trojan, malware, spyware, phishing free Internet with a vast amount of domain addresses?

However and evidently from the vast amount of information and dot-connecting you provide on this forum that is not the case. Rather it'll be a virus, trojan, malware, spyware, phishing environment for them because they'll be the only ones using it. 

[mr anderson]

Jay Rockellefer (1:47)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

'It's an individual act, that doesn't require a sleeper cell...'

Give me a break!

[Dig]

From:  http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/10/19/transcript-colin-powell-on-meet-the-press-endorses-barack-obama-october-19/



Colin Powell on Meet the Press (October 19th, 2008)


MR. BROKAW:  If you were called into the Oval Office on January 21st by the new president, whoever it happens to be, and he said to you, “General Powell, I need from you your recommendation on where I begin.  What should be my priorities?” Where would you start?

GEN. POWELL:  I would start with talking to the American people and talking to the world, and conveying a new image of American leadership, a new image of America’s role in the world.

The problems will always be there, and there’s going to be a crisis come along in the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now.  And so I think what the president has to do is to start using the power of the Oval Office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and to convince the world that America is solid, America is going to move forward, and we’re going to fix our economic problems, we’re going to meet our overseas obligations.  But restoring a sense of purpose, a sense of confidence in the American people and, in the international community, in America.

Flur, you totally f-ing rock!

[Mike Philbin]

re: the IPv6 report,

it's obvious, so obvious, that they've been referring to WE THE PEOPLE OF THIS PLANET when they used the term Al Qaeda in their internal memoes. We The People were the enemy all along. We bombed 9/11 by our complicity. We will be the 'benefactors' of their tyranny on all fronts. This period, for those of us who survive, should make ALL OF US more wary and critical of any government decisions.

Doh!

[Dig]

Jay Rockellefer (1:47)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

'It's an individual act, that doesn't require a sleeper cell...'

Give me a break!

you really cannot make this shit up.

now terrorism is caused not by sleeper cells but by someone who just does not feel like getting anal probed one day.

Soon he will be saying that "an individual mind with telepathic powers can destroy all life as we know it.  We therefore must implant microchips in everybodies' brain to diffuse this immediate threat"

Can't everybody see how psychotic these genocidal maniacs are?

[vladimir]

Jay Rockefeller is the smart Rockefeller. He has been selected as front man to launch this attack because he has more finesse than his brother David or most of their puppets in the "Congress".
 
He's also a incredible liar. If there have been 3 million cyber attacks on the military every day, how come they can't catch the people writing virus that you and I have to pay hundreds of dollars each to anti-virus companies to protect our computers? How come they let cyber attackers go after businesses? Isn't that also "national security"?
 
Millions of Americans have their phone service supplied by Internet service providers. Are they going to shut all that down, too? They're talking about shutting down peer-to-peer: that's going to bring down a lot of the industrial infrastructure that runs the utilities.
 
We should be planning some contingencies for how we can defend ourselves and the country if they are able to shut the Internet down. We can bring the 9/11, Ron Paul, and anti-war groups together using the telephone (but perhaps that only if we do it through AT&T). We need to designate physical rallying points in every local, and days and times when we come together. Likely, there will be time to get these contingency plans underway before they can move in a big way on the Internet. But this is something that we should start to do while we still have Internet access.
 
Does anyone else agree that the Prison Planet Forum might be a place to do some brainstorming about alternatives to the Internet?
   
By the way, I got a laugh looking at the "related videos" on YouTube and seeing a video with the words in the title "communist Jay Rockefeller". Jay Rockefeller is about as much a communist as Armour & Co. or T.G.I. Friday's are shills for PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals).
 

[cog]

"we in the intelligence community were taken to an undisclosed location in Virginia to discuss this" (at 2:12 in the youtube link)

Do you know what hes talking about/ when this may have happened?
Its not wise to draw any conclusions before being informed but with Bilderberg meeting in Viginina last year...

[Dig]

[Care of the prison planet forum resident graphics artist Brocke]

[Dig]

"we in the intelligence community were taken to an undisclosed location in Virginia to discuss this" (at 2:12 in the youtube link)

Do you know what hes talking about/ when this may have happened?
Its not wise to draw any conclusions before being informed but with Bilderberg meeting in Viginina last year...

bilderberg?  that is for obama and clinton.  he was taken to one of the many underground bunkers where they discuss all of the "end times" scenarios.

But thanks for pointing out that quote.

I mean WTF, the guy is going completely fricking insane with power that he really is planning to nuke the internet.  I say again, wtf?

[TelepesT]

Jay sounds crazy, in a calm calculating way

[Dig]

Jay sounds crazy, in a calm calculating way

Yeah like Dahmer, Manson, Gracie, or any other serial killer.

[Dig]

BTW, here is the guy that Rockefeller was verbally torturing:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Gary Locke: Commerce Secretary
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/23/gary-locke-commerce-secre_n_169281.html
The Huffington Post/AP   |   February 23, 2009 05:17 PM


President Obama and Vice President Biden introduced former Washington Gov. Gary Locke as Commerce Secretary nominee Wednesday.

"I'm sure it's not lost on anyone that we've tried this a couple of times. But I'm a big believer in keeping at something until you get it right," Obama said. Locke is Obama's third nominee for the post. His previous two choices for the post dropped out well before the Senate had a chance to confirm them.

"Gary will be a trusted voice in my cabinet, a tireless advocate for our economic competitiveness, and an influential ambassador for American industry who will help us do everything we can - especially now - to promote it around the world," the president said. "I'm grateful he's agreed to leave one Washington for another, and I look forward to having him on my team as we continue the work of turning our economy around and bringing about a stronger, more prosperous future for all Americans."

Locke, 59, works for the Seattle-based law firm Davis Wright Tremaine on issues involving China, energy and governmental relations. "Our nation's economic success is tied directly to America continuing to lead in technology and innovation and in exporting those products, services and ideas to markets around the globe," Locke said in accepting the nomination. "The Department of Commerce can and will help create jobs and the economic vitality our country needs."

Locke's record is not completely unblemished. He was briefly linked to a scandal over foreign contributions to President Bill Clinton's 1996 campaign. In July 1998, he gave a deposition to the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight about his relationships with questioned Clinton donors. But the committee later said the deposition produced no evidence that Locke knowingly accepted illegal campaign donations.

Locke denied any wrongdoing, and he subsequently returned some checks tied to people implicated in the fundraising scandal, including $750 from John Huang. The former Commerce Department official was the Democratic Party's chief fundraiser for the Asian-American population in the 1996 elections, and he became one of the central figures in the national Democratic Party fundraising scandal.

In December 1997, Locke's political committee was fined a maximum $2,500 by state regulators after it admitted breaking campaign finance laws during two out-of-state fundraisers in 1996.

And in March 1998, state investigators cleared Locke of wrongdoing following complaints that he unlawfully took $10,000 in campaign contributions from members of a Buddhist church.
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Locke, the first Chinese-American governor in U.S. history, served two terms in Washington state from 1997 to 2005. He chose to step down to spend more time with his kids. However, ugly, racist threats against his family also played a factor in Locke's decision to not seek a third term. In 2003, a member of an extreme right-wing group was arrested for plotting to assassinate Gov. Locke.

Locke was a state co-chair of Hillary Clinton's campaign. "Gary was a visionary governor and he will be a tremendous asset to our campaign as we take our message of change across Washington," Clinton said in a prepared statement at the time. "I'm honored to have his support."

Earlier on Monday, Gov. Jennifer Granholm (D-MI) said she had heard Locke's name floated in a one-on-one conversation she had at the National Governors Association meeting.

From his official biography:
Born into an immigrant family on Jan. 21, 1950, Locke spent his first six years in Seattle's Yesler Terrace, a public housing project for families of World War II veterans. He worked in his father's grocery store, became an Eagle Scout and graduated with honors from Seattle's Franklin High School in 1968. Through a combination of part-time jobs, financial aid and scholarships, Locke attended Yale University, earning a bachelor's degree in political science in 1972.


Governor Locke with Mona Locke and their children Dylan and Emily After receiving his law degree from Boston University in 1975, he worked for several years as a deputy prosecutor in King County, prosecuting felony crimes. In 1982, Locke was elected to the Washington State House of Representatives, where he served on the House Judiciary and Appropriations committees, with his final five years spent as chairman of the House Appropriations Committee.

Prior to being elected governor, Locke served as chief executive of King County in 1993 and took on the issues and challenges facing Washington's largest city.

Locke and his wife, Mona Lee Locke, a former reporter for the NBC affiliate KING 5 television in Seattle, were married Oct. 15, 1994. The Lockes have three children--Emily, born in March 1997, Dylan, born in March 1999 and Madeline, born in November 2004.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Does Obama have anyone in his cabinet who has NOT stolen money?

[Dig]

Here is 440 pages of fun facts about Rockefeller:

Rockefeller Internationalist - The Man Who Misrules the World
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11999141/Rockefeller-Internationalist-The-Man-Who-Misrules-the-World

[Mike Philbin]

Jay sounds crazy, in a calm calculating way

Fava beans and a nice Chianti crazy?


Ffft? Ffft? Ffft?

[Dig]

Fava beans and a nice Chianti crazy?


Ffft? Ffft? Ffft?

[BTW New Yorkers, look how your tax money is spent...to put up fake web pages like this one: www.erie.gov/sheriff/most_wanted/hannibal.asp]

[Dig]

Council on Foreign Relations? Motive?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sovereignty and Globalization
Richard N. Haass, President Council of Foreign Relations
http://yedies.blogspot.com/2007/07/council-on-foreign-relations-supporters.html
February 17, 2006 Project Syndicate

The world’s 190-plus states now co-exist with a larger number of powerful non-sovereign and at least partly (and often largely) independent actors, ranging from corporations to non-government organisations (NGOs), from terrorist groups to drug cartels, from regional and global institutions to banks and private equity funds. The sovereign state is influenced by them (for better and for worse) as much as it is able to influence them. The near monopoly of power once enjoyed by sovereign entities is being eroded.

As a result, new mechanisms are needed for regional and global governance that include actors other than states. This is not to argue that Microsoft, Amnesty International, or Goldman Sachs be given seats in the United Nations General Assembly, but it does mean including representatives of such organisations in regional and global deliberations when they have the capacity to affect whether and how regional and global challenges are met.

Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function.

This is already taking place in the trade realm. Governments agree to accept the rulings of the World Trade Organisation because on balance they benefit from an international trading order, even if a particular decision requires that they alter a practice that is their sovereign right to carry out.

Some governments are prepared to give up elements of sovereignty to address the threat of global climate change. Under one such arrangement, the Kyoto Protocol, which runs through 2012, signatories agree to cap specific emissions. What is needed now is a successor arrangement in which a larger number of governments, including the United States, China and India, accept emission limits or adopt common standards because they recognise that they would be worse off if no country did.

All of this suggests that sovereignty must be redefined if states are to cope with globalisation.

At its core, globalisation entails the increasing volume, velocity and importance of flows within and across borders of people, ideas, greenhouse gases, goods, dollars, drugs, viruses, emails, weapons, and a good deal else, challenging one of sovereignty’s fundamental principles: the ability to control what crosses borders in either direction. Sovereign states increasingly measure their vulnerability not to one another, but to forces beyond their control.

Globalisation thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves, because they cannot insulate themselves from what goes on elsewhere. Sovereignty is no longer a sanctuary.

This was demonstrated by the American and world reaction to terrorism. Afghanistan’s Taliban government, which provided access and support to al-Qaeda, was removed from power. Similarly, America’s preventive war against an Iraq that ignored the UN and was thought to possess weapons of mass destruction showed that sovereignty no longer provides absolute protection. Imagine how the world would react if some government were known to be planning to use or transfer a nuclear device or had already done so. Many would argue correctly that sovereignty provides no protection for that state.

Necessity may also lead to reducing or even eliminating sovereignty when a government, whether from a lack of capacity or conscious policy, is unable to provide for the basic needs of its citizens. This reflects not simply scruples, but a view that state failure and genocide can lead to destabilising refugee flows and create openings for terrorists to take root.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation’s intervention in Kosovo was an example where a number of governments chose to violate the sovereignty of another government (Serbia) to stop ethnic cleansing and genocide. By contrast, the mass killing in Rwanda a decade ago and now in Darfur, Sudan, demonstrate the high price of judging sovereignty to be supreme and thus doing little to prevent the slaughter of innocents.

Our notion of sovereignty must therefore be conditional, even contractual, rather than absolute. If a state fails to live up to its side of the bargain by sponsoring terrorism, either transferring or using weapons of mass destruction, or conducting genocide, then it forfeits the normal benefits of sovereignty and opens itself up to attack, removal or occupation. The diplomatic challenge for this era is to gain widespread support for principles of state conduct and a procedure for determining remedies when these principles are violated.

The goal should be to redefine sovereignty for the era of globalisation, to find a balance between a world of fully sovereign states and an international system of either world government or anarchy.

The basic idea of sovereignty, which still provides a useful constraint on violence between states, needs to be preserved.

But the concept needs to be adapted to a world in which the main challenges to order come from what global forces do to states and what governments do to their citizens, rather than from what states do to one another.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Now, what do you own the world?
How do you own disorder, disorder
Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep
Disorder, disorder, disorder"

[ericsnow]

15 seconds into TOD you can see Jay Rockefeller to the left of Obama in the background. Thought that was interesting

[jofortruth]

Here's the transcript taken from this video site: (This site can be embedded)
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/includes/templates/library/flash_popup.php?pID=284704-1&clipStart=&clipStop=

1:53:00 - 1:56:00  Jay Rockefeller on Internet - cspan 2

Cyber security hearing tomorrow. He says.

"When the internet was invented everyone fell flat on their face they were so thrilled, and the world began to do business in a different way. Now both the President Bush's Director Intelligence, Mike McConnell who I greatly respect, and President Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Blair who I greatly respect, have labeled cyber security, perpetrated through the internet as the #1 National Hazard of attack on the homeland in West Virginia (stammers), America, anywhere else. So, I mean, it really almost makes you ask the question would it have been better had we not invented the internet and had to use paper and pencil whatever. And That's a stupid thing to say,  but it has genuine consequence, because it's on the internet that these acts of shutting down, ya know they have television ads every day saying the DOD is attacked 3 million times a day, and it's true. Everybody is attacked, anybody can do it. People say it's China and Russia, but there could be some kid in Latvia doing the same thing. I mean it's individual acts. It doesn't require a sleeper cell, ammonia, explosives, it's just an act. And yet it's an act which can shut this country down, it's electricity system, banking system, shutdown about anything we have to offer. It's an awesome problem.

On the Intelligence Committee we were taken for a full day, to an undisclosed place in Virginia, to discuss this. It is a fearsome, awesome problem. It's broader than that too. I wonder where this stands with you, what your thoughts are and what we should be doing about it."

Clip is here also: (Someone posted this earlier in this thread)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

[Dig]

Here's the transcript taken from this video site: (This site can be embedded)
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/includes/templates/library/flash_popup.php?pID=284704-1&clipStart=&clipStop=

Clip is here also: (Someone posted this earlier in this thread)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

Can you cut and past the entire transcript for those that do not have scripting (no scripts firefox)? 

[jofortruth]

Can you cut and past the entire transcript for those that do not have scripting (no scripts firefox)? 

That is the transcript. I typed it from the video.  If you want to verify it, then just listen to the 2nd link I posted above.

[Dig]

That is the transcript. I typed it from the video. 

I mean cutting and pasting the full text into a new reply on this thread.

[jofortruth]

Here ya go! Full text
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

1:53:00 - 1:56:00  Jay Rockefeller on Internet - cspan 2

Cyber security hearing tomorrow. He says.

"When the internet was invented everyone fell flat on their face they were so thrilled, and the world began to do business in a different way. Now both the President Bush's Director Intelligence, Mike McConnell who I greatly respect, and President Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Blair who I greatly respect, have labeled cyber security, perpetrated through the internet as the #1 National Hazard of attack on the homeland in West Virginia (stammers), America, anywhere else. So, I mean, it really almost makes you ask the question would it have been better had we not invented the internet and had to use paper and pencil whatever. And That's a stupid thing to say,  but it has genuine consequence, because it's on the internet that these acts of shutting down, ya know they have television ads every day saying the DOD is attacked 3 million times a day, and it's true. Everybody is attacked, anybody can do it. People say it's China and Russia, but there could be some kid in Latvia doing the same thing. I mean it's individual acts. It doesn't require a sleeper cell, ammonia, explosives, it's just an act. And yet it's an act which can shut this country down, it's electricity system, banking system, shutdown about anything we have to offer. It's an awesome problem.

On the Intelligence Committee we were taken for a full day, to an undisclosed place in Virginia, to discuss this. It is a fearsome, awesome problem. It's broader than that too. I wonder where this stands with you, what your thoughts are and what we should be doing about it."

[Dig]

Here ya go! Full text
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

1:53:00 - 1:56:00  Jay Rockefeller on Internet - cspan 2

Cyber security hearing tomorrow. He says.

"When the internet was invented everyone fell flat on their face they were so thrilled, and the world began to do business in a different way. Now both the President Bush's Director Intelligence, Mike McConnell who I greatly respect, and President Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Blair who I greatly respect, have labeled cyber security, perpetrated through the internet as the #1 National Hazard of attack on the homeland in West Virginia (stammers), America, anywhere else. So, I mean, it really almost makes you ask the question would it have been better had we not invented the internet and had to use paper and pencil whatever. And That's a stupid thing to say,  but it has genuine consequence, because it's on the internet that these acts of shutting down, ya know they have television ads every day saying the DOD is attacked 3 million times a day, and it's true. Everybody is attacked, anybody can do it. People say it's China and Russia, but there could be some kid in Latvia doing the same thing. I mean it's individual acts. It doesn't require a sleeper cell, ammonia, explosives, it's just an act. And yet it's an act which can shut this country down, it's electricity system, banking system, shutdown about anything we have to offer. It's an awesome problem.

On the Intelligence Committee we were taken for a full day, to an undisclosed place in Virginia, to discuss this. It is a fearsome, awesome problem. It's broader than that too. I wonder where this stands with you, what your thoughts are and what we should be doing about it."

that is the entire transcript of the 2 hour video?

[jofortruth]

No, that's just the significant Rockefeller part, the topic of this thread. The most important part! 

[Gruntled Employee]

It is funny no one suggests making a 2 teir internet system, the lower teir for public usage and a maybe higher bandwidth & encypted internet for banking/govt/military use that would not be compatible with the public internet, rather than just shutting it down completely. Of course this will not stop the spread of news accross the globe, but to kill the internet completely because they are being exposed is madness.

[Dig]

No, that's just the significant Rockefeller part, the topic of this thread. The most important part! 

there are a few other important parts too.

one is where he mentions mandatory national service and possibly others.  Is there a way to make it a pdf and post it to scribd or to include more of Jay's pontification here?

[Dig]

It is funny no one suggests making a 2 teir internet system, the lower teir for public usage and a maybe higher bandwidth & encypted internet for banking/govt/military use that would not be compatible with the public internet, rather than just shutting it down completely. Of course this will not stop the spread of news accross the globe, but to kill the internet completely because they are being exposed is madness.

this already exists as Anti_Illuminati has exposed on the AJ show:

Quote of the f**king year by anyone on radio or TV:

Anti_Illuminati
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfUn9DF47wU

"I wanna call out something right now.  I know who’s carrying out…I know that you guys listening that are in intelligence…I know who’s carrying out this false flag cyber crap that you guys are pulling. 

"It’s Booz Allen Hamilton and MITRE Corporation. 

"Both of your organizations are criminal terrorist organizations.  And you’re under the AFCA, which is the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association as well as the NCOIC, which is the Network Center Operations Industry Consortium. 

"All of you are criminal terrorists.  And, you Generals that I mentioned, you are enemies of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.  And you need to be arrested, and you need to be tried for treason immediately. 

"Get the hell out of my country! 

"If you think that I will submit to you, or the American people are going to submit to you.... 

"You have been illegally set up."

~~~~~[...2-Tier Internet...]~~~~

All you, all of you top brass that are gonna be engaging in this fake, non-existent, cyber terror that’s gonna be staged by Booz Allen Hamilton and all this.  It’s ridiculous.  And I wanna mention one other thing. 

There’s another reason why cyber security is a total fraud.

OK?  NORTHCOM as well as every other one of their allies in the new world order. 

They’re immune to cyber attacks. 

Do you know why?  Because they have something called a TechGuard PoliWall filter. 
http://www.techguardsecurity.com/docs/poliwall_data.pdf
It’s a $7,500 transparent network bridge appliance that uses artificial intelligence Neuro-Net devices that heuristically analyzes incoming traffic.  And they…there’s a symposium that they had where they did simulated attacks from China. 
And they were able to successfully defeat everything. 

The new world order systems are immune to attack. 

Even the ones that are on the regular grid…irrespective…they have their own separate systems.  But they’re already immune to stuff.  The only ones that aren’t immune are the one’s that they carry false flags out on so that they can sell that as an excuse.  “Well, you need more security because, well, you know, the system needs to be changed because you need to get onto our enslavement system."

[Mike Philbin]

did you guys SEE this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_9XarTnnWM

is Al Qaeda REALLY in 50 or 60 other countries? or is this an UNOFFICIAL description of how many more countries the global elite will trounce?

f**kin' Hell.

[nofakenews]

thinks mr. chairman for  conducting this oversight and  review of an excellent  candidate.  for the commerce secretary.  and we saw washington here with  the two highly thought of  senators and the distinguished  former governor.  governor locke and i share a  background experience from parents.  his parents, like mine, ran a  neighborhood store, kept open  seven days a week typically 365  days a year.  and the thing that we did each  of us seemed to have learned is  hard work to get unfortunately  with the economy in recession as  is is too many people are  searching for the chance to work  hard as they struggle to make  ends meet.  the on imply memory to across  the country the highest it's  been in 15 years and those  people who have jobs are working  longer and getting less for  their labour and so we are  counting on the next commerce  secretary to help write this and  get the economy back and work.  this committee has  responsibility that goes beyond  that of the commerce department  and that is we do some  significant infrastructure work  here.  one of them is for instance  investment in real surface.  the transportation improvements,  light rail it reduces our  dependence on fossil fuels.  and it will employ 27,000 people  for every billion of investment.  and i use that as an example and  as the cabinet secretary  responsible for america's  economy and its competitiveness,  i hope that governor locke will  be a partner promoting  investments and transportation  even though it's not within  directly with in his department.  in our meeting, governor locke  and i talked about another type  of infrastructure investment  mentioned by several colleagues.  the need to invest in broadband  especially in underserved areas  and new jersey.  the economic recovery we  recently passed provides the  department with nearly  $5 billion up for a broadband  initiatives to improve  high-speed internet access to  the serve and uncertain and  underserved committees across  the country getting broadband to  these committees especially  low-income areas is essential if  we are going to keep america  competitive.  for americans with limited time,  limited researches, limited  access means access to  information of quality-of-care,  education that might otherwise  be out of reach, and it means  children can get homework help  from libraries and parents can  go back to school in search of a  better job even as they stay at home.  and for low-income americans the  opportunity is available online  can help find a way out of  poverty.  the secretary of commerce has  the ability to impact so many  aspects of american lives  protecting the health of our  oceans to promoting american  trade, technology and economic  development to insure accurate  representation through the  census and i look forward to  working with governor locke on  these issues and many affairs  including stopping companies  from doing business with  terrorist states.  and buy clothes, mr. sherman,  since you too were a governor  and the appeal was made for more governors.  i come out of the business  community and my appeal is for  more business people to join us  here and i thank you,  mr. chairman. [inaudible]  i saw this coming out of both as  my calculation.  governor, just so that you will  come back when we have our next  hearing involving you it is our  custom when somebody prisons  themselves for nomination for  all members to give statements.  we cut them down to four  minutes.  ordinarily so keep your spirits high. [laughter]  and to keep them high even  further is senator snowe.

great timing on that point. [laughter]  i will try to be brief, governor  locke, and i welcome you and  congratulate you in your nomination.  i think it comes at especially  critical time for the commerce  department and certainly your  life's journey does represent a  great american story and also  the depth and breadth of your  experience and expertise in this  multi mission agency so  well-suited for the many  challenges spheres of  jurisdiction within the agency.  so i certainly want to applaud  your nomination and i appreciate  the productive meeting that we  had recently on so many issues  and obviously one of the  critical missions of your agency  as you already mentioned in your  statement creating jobs that  made and stay in america and  that's exactly right.  we have to focus on jobs and  there's so many programs within  your agency and administration's  within your agency that are  going to create jobs and we have  to maximize the potential that  job creation and that's why one  of the recommendations i made to  you and i'm exploring is to  create eight jobs coordinated  within the agency said that you  can be singularly focused on  bringing together all of the  potential of all of the programs  and administration's under  george jurisdiction to create  jobs making sure they stay in  america as well.  for example you've got the  international trade  administration, the economic  development program so  essentials and manufacturing  partnership and national  telecommunications.  obviously all of the trade issue is so important.  so i think we have to maximize  that potential to become  singularly focused coordinating  that and the one person that  reports to you because it is now  more important than ever given  the level of unemployment and we  are at a juncture where we have  got people making claims as high  as the 1960's so it truly is  troubling so we have to do  everything we can to enhance the  capability within the commerce  department.  as far as trade is concerned  another issue i mentioned i  happen to think we coordinate  all the enforcement activities  under the jurisdiction of the  commerce department specifically  international trade administration.  i thought that the u.s. t.r. had  sort of conflicting missions  negotiating trade agreements and  then having to enforce them in  the public petitions simply  don't get recognized by and it's  been 12 years since the acted  upon the petitions i would like  to see the enforcement  activities, under the  jurisdiction of the  international trade  administration so we have  singular capability of making  sure we are represented when it  comes to violation of trade  agreements in addition to the  anti-dumping and subsidy  responsibilities already under  the mission of the international  trade administration.  i think it's so important this  day and age we are losing jobs  to make sure that we are dealing  with a level playing field when  it comes to trade enforcement.  finally on fisheries if you  heard so much and i express this  as well and i a appreciate the  fact of your expertise in this  area because it is so complex  and it is critical and your  nomination could not come at a  marketable time for the  fisheries and that is true in  new england.  we are facing enormous hardships  with the groundfish industry for  example and i explained to you  what happened with accounts, the  england a council decision of  underlined by one vote which  happened to be the regional  administrators, 15-1 to reduce  the days but not as dramatically  and as the agency in the council.  the inspector general came out  with a report that underscores  what i mentioned in our meeting  and that is a tremendous level  of distrust between the  fisheries in new england and  national marine fisheries services.  it's something we have to restore.  we have to create integrity of  the science and also the way in  which these decisions are made  so i hope to work with you on  this because it's so critical  and pivotal we have to preserve  our fishermen as we preserve the fishery.  the fishing stock and it's  simply not happening and we are  not going to survive this year  giving this interim regulation  they just issued an order to  move ahead to the management in  2010 so i hope we can explore  that further in the future.  again mr. chairman, thank you.

thank you senator snowe.thank you.  governor i'm delighted to have a chance to welcome you as well  and congratulate you on your  nomination as well as your  family and willingness to serve  is appreciated.  i should tell you i enjoy very  much our opportunity to chat and  as you know from my comments on  the day i am vitally interested  on the issue of trade.  the state of florida has  extended benefits greatly from  trade and benefits from the  opportunity of job creation as a  result of trade you obviously  know that because you were so  forceful and leading many  successful trade missions during  your time as governor and i know  your state and mine both have a  seaport and the proximity to  oversee markets and make us  particularly attuned to these issues.  i am concerned about the  protectionist attitudes that  seem to prevail at this moment  in history.  the issue with mexico that  former secretary governor and  now senator johanns brought up  is one that i greatly share his concern.  i share the concern about tpa.  i'm also terribly concerned  about the lack of the fact we  could never get congressional  approval with free trade with columbia.  one would enhance job creation  not only in the state of florida  but places like with  caterpillar, heavy equipment,  that's what the import there.  colombia is moving on to other  trade agreements with  competitors of ours and they will enter launching our  agreements to purchase heavy  equipment from others like  germany where they are in negotiations.  so we are going to fall behind  and i think it is incumbent to  provide leadership of this  administration to be a clear  voice on the issue of trade and  this time of economic turmoil i  think protectionism is the last  thing we need.  i will mentioned to you that i  think your predecessor, carlos  gutierez was also mentioned by  senator joe hans and i share a  great friendship with him and i  also admire greatly not terribly  involved and deeply involved in  immigration not exactly the  portfolio of commerce secretary  but i joined with the secretary  of homeland security and we will  say a strong partner as we work  for comprehensive immigration  reform solution to this nation's  immigration problems.  i hope that you will raise your voice.  i know you're sensitive and  understand the issue in your own  life and own family.  as i do and you will have the  opportunity to weigh in and help  us move forward on an agenda  that will include a  comprehensive immigration reform  that will be good for the country.  i joined the ranking member  talking about the issue of  hurricanes, very important to  coastal states like florida, it  is a very vital part of  hurricane prepared mess.  i've been involved in presenting  some bills i think i mentioned  in our conversation relating to  better research particularly  issues of storm surge,  mitigation on things of this  nature.  i hope we continue to talk about  these as you take office.  in conclusion i should say  chairman sarbanes when i was  before the banking committee for  my confirmation hearing was not  as kind as you and i did not  realize i would get to give a  statement at some point during  the course of the day as  everybody went around the table  but the best of luck to you.  i wish you great success.  i enjoyed my time in the cabinet  and i know you have a very  exciting as i met ahead and lots  of challenges but i look for you  to provide but i think is  leadership on trade.  you know and understand and know  the benefits of it.  you now need to be the advocate  because the confusing signals we  are sending to the world are not  good and i think particularly as  it relates to our friends mexico  is a neighbor and good friend  and we need mexico to be  economically and politically  strong and right now going back  on commitments on nafta is not  the way to do it, but thank you  very much.

thank you senter martinez and  now senator klobuchar.
thank you mr. chairman and  welcome, governor locke.  you are a few senators away from giving your statement.  i also wanted to welcome your wife.  i also have sent second time in  green bay wisconsin which we  always think of as the beer and  brought worst capital of the  united states and i do have a  button i can give you from my  last campaign visit on behalf of  the president in wisconsin was  my favorite one, "brat obama."  as a listen to the tributes from  you as your fellow governors i  think you can have nothing  better than that as well as our  senators from washington.  i was struck by experience and  how important that is to this  job as you look to managing not  only the census but also  managing of the digital tv transition.  we talked about how my state 21%  of the people still have the  rabbit year or the old tvs and i  was wondering -- won the believe  because the liesman regiment of  the program we need a little  more time i remember asking the  fcc commissioner if he wanted to  go on a roof in minnesota in the  middle of february to adjust the  antenna.  i think this little more time is  a good thing that gets your  inheriting something of a messy  program and i believe we can do it.  we transitioned some of our  stations in our state and it's  gone well so far so i think it's  helped us that some of the  stations have already transition  so we look forward to working  with you on that.  the second issue mentioned by  many of the senators is the  broadband issue.  i think that this is a true  opportunity to get our country  up to date.  we went from fourth in the world  to industrialized internet  subscribership to 18 than just years.  jobs we could be placing and in  minnesota they've been going to  other countries and i think that  this internet expansion is so  important to our country.  i think back to 1935 when  president roosevelt looked  across the landscape and salt  20% had electricity.  and then 15 years later 75% had electricity.  and i see this issue of internet  and broadband of the  electrification issue of this  decade so this is a great  opportunity to try to get our  system up to date.  it's been mentioned there's  issues with which areas i can  tell you in my state that may  have internet service but it's  incredibly slow or incredibly  expensive so we have to look at  those areas as well.  i am going to be chairing  martinez is the ranking member  of competitiveness and expert  subcommittee so we hope with your experience in promoting  american products abroad we can  have some discussions and work  on and i am also going to be  chairing a tourism hearing and i  know that's one issue that  hasn't been mentioned as we are  in these troubled times but  tourism is still a very  important industry to this  country and we would like the  commerce department's help  promoting tourism in these times  understanding that it's still  very important so many americans  make their livelihood in the tourism industry.  and then finally, senator  cantwell talked about the worked  with know what and oceans and a  reminder the great lakes are  also included in that for two  years i served on that  subcommittee has idled the  chairman i couldn't quite figure  it out at the beginning given  that i'm from minnesota and it  is called the oceans  subcommittee but then i realized  it was because i could see lake  superior from my porch.  but i will tell you, governor  locke the great lakes issues are  incredibly important.  we've seen issues with great  lakes restoration's, invasive  species and i hope that you keep  this high on the front burner  when you look at know what and  the work that is done to make  sure there's significant  resources and focus on the great  lengths as well as great oceans.  thank you very much.  we look forward to working  klobuchar. senter nelson?, john longer july have? i can make it very quick,  mr. chairman.  i support you, governor.  i enjoyed our visit.  i have a series of questions  that i will proffer for the  record that you can answer that  go all the way and this is an  amazing department how many  subjects you have to control.  the questions i submit go all  the way from managing the  fishery stocks we have a problem  in florida on snapper and  grouper and the question is is  it plentiful or is it being  reduced and getting accurate  information?  of course all the questions are  now on climate change in  including organizational  questions about should the  national climate service be  situated within noah, and how  are you going to continue the  satellite sea level rise  measurements such as the jason  3-cd and other capabilities and  our satellites.  how as you get into climate  change to make sure all  governments at all levels  understand the consequences of  the climate change?  a single point failure on  tracking hurricanes, single  point failure.  1g4.  if it is down for maintenance or  an accident we don't have that  increased 15% accuracy  capability that we have now.  of course the census has been  raised to accurately counts the  census, the ntia as an entity  should coordinate closely with  the fcc on telecommunications  policy.  question of getting a broadband  out into as many areas as  possible versus to as many  people as possible by making it  affordable.  that's an issue in your  department.  the joint project agreement  having to do with a sign named  and numbers on the internet.  and should that joint project  agreement be extended.  so those are just a couple to  digest as you take on this  enormous responsibility thank  you for your offer of yourself  for public service.

thank you very much, chairman  rockefeller.  great to be at this hearing  today.  welcome, governor locke.  it is a pleasure to have you  here and i just want to say the  accolades you have received from  all of your former governors say a lot about you.  i was never governor i was a  state attorney general and i  belong to serve with several  governors but i longed to an  association that had the acronym  of nag and they would always  accuse us as the national  association of aspiring  governors.  but you -- which i have not  aspired to do at this point, but  i think these governors i served  with and governor rockefeller  has set a great example of  public service.  several of the senators have  talked to you about what we  should do in rural areas and i  know in our discussion earlier  you talked outside this  committee room you talked about  the rule areas in washington and  getting digital into those areas  and making sure people  understand the transition to  digital to be.  you also talked about broadband,  so i think you can see there's a real consensus on the committee  on both democratic, the  democratic and republican side  that we want to see those things happen.  we want to our attention put  their.  this $650 million i think that's  been given in the stimulus  package for cuba, assistance is  something that's important to us  and i just hope that you make  sure that that is administered  in a very transparent way so  that we get out in those areas  and get people taken care of.  the other issue i wanted to  mention, and you in particular  as a governor i think have this experience.  you had many tribes in washington.  we do also in new mexico,  senator klobuchar does in  minnesota, there are many other  states that have indian tribes.  they are really hurting in terms of the economic development.  they have been left behind in many areas.  and i hope that your department  will make that a top priority  working with the tribes, working  with economic development  efforts.  it's something i hope will be  done collaborative light.  i know ken salazar shares the  same feelings you do over there  at the department of interior  and i think seeing interior and  the department eckert culture  and the department of commerce  and probably other departments  working together could make a  difference on what is a very  dire situation.  for my tribes many of the indian  reservations and mexico have 50% unemployment.  if we had those kind of numbers  anyplace else across the country  we would call it an emergency.  we would have immediate response  of government that we would  about their and get something is done immediately.  so i hope that you take it with  that urgency and i have other  questions because we are limited  here in terms of time and i have  another commitment.  i'm going to submit those for  the record but i certainly wish  you the greatest success and  look forward to working with you  on all of the issues that your  department covers which have a  big impact in new mexico and  across the west.  thank you.

thank you, senator udall.  i am just going to make up the  question here not of my time  which now goes to five minutes  per person, and that is you will  respond to any and all questions  that we pose to your department.  some departments are better than  others. [laughter]  and we have an investigations  group so i still to serve on the  intelligence committee and we  get no cooperation.  and so you have to do that.  you have to hold out that  subpoena power.  i assume we will never have to  use it on you but i just want  you to know we are going to be  an aggressive committee and we  will be proud to be that way.  my questions are -- it would  probably be decent if you gave  an opening statement. [laughter]

thank you for a much,  chairman rockefeller, and  actually may be an even tempted  to dispense with an opening  statement and get right into  your questions but i will take  this opportunity to make a few remarks.  i want to thank, chairman  rockefeller and members of this committee.  i'm humbled to be here today  seeking your approval, seeking  your confirmation as secretary  of commerce in the past few weeks have had the opportunity  to meet with most members of  this committee to discuss the  need for a vibrant part of commerce.  one that aggressively promotes  american products, services and  ideas both home and abroad while  protecting of environment.  we share a common vision for  this department to be an engine  of innovation, job growth and  economic renewal and i look  forward to working with all of  you to achieve this fission if confirmed.  mr. chairman i want to thank you  as well as the distinguished  ranking member senator  hutchinson for the courtesies  that you have shown me in the  three short weeks since  president obama nominated me to  be secretary of commerce.  i appreciate how expeditiously  you have moved this confirmation forward.  i'm particularly grateful to my  senators from the great state of  washington, senator patty murray  and maria cantwell.  i want to thank them for their  kind introductions.  over the years i've worked  closely with senator marie and  senator cantwell in the other  washington in capacity as  members of state legislature and  then once they came here to this  washington we've been able to  collaborate closely on the  issues facing the people of  washington state and our nation  and i'm looking forward to the  opportunity of serving with them  again but in this washington.  mr. chairman, even though he is  not able to attend the hearing  today he did stop by earlier and  that's senator inouye.  a great patriot, served our  country valiantly in world war  ii as did my father.  he's been a great role model and  inspiration to so many asian  americans and pacific islanders.  i would also want to reintroduce  again and my wife, mona, able to  join me today.  a first lady for the state of washington.  she spent eight years tirelessly  promoting the critical  importance of early learning,  that learning can now wait until  kindergarten but it starts from  the time of birth.  and she did this before it was  popular and she's now doing a  great job as executive director  of the susan g komen tours --  search for the tours foundation.  our children emily, dublin, and  madeleine can't be here today  but i would like locke family to  be part of all these hearings.  as was mentioned i am the son  and the grandson of immigrants.  my family's history in this  country dates back to more than  100 years.  my grandfather came to the  united states from china and  worked for a family in the state  capital of columbia washington.  he washed dishes, slept floors  in exchange for english lessons.  he lived in a house 1 mile from  the governor's mansion.  and when i was sworn as governor  i remarked it took our family  100 years to travel that 1 mile.  but our families story is the  story of millions and millions  of americans since the beginning  of this great nation.  it is a story founded on the  american promise of freedom,  hope, an opportunity and it is  precisely those values that led  me to come before you today  seeking your confirmation to be  the nation's 36 the secretary of commerce.  the department of commerce  touches ordinary american  citizens in so many ways every  single day.  from the weather satellites to  know what to the global offices  of the international trade  administration and laboratories  of the national institute of  standards and technology to the  communities that benefit from  the agency programs.  next year as the department  conducts the 2010 census more  than 1.2 million temporary  commerce employees will fan out  across the country to provide a  full and physical count of the  american people.  while the part of commerce has  incredible depth and breadth of  want to provide a unified  mission and if confirmed i will  develop an aggressive integrated  agency wide program to create  and protect american jobs.  the goal is simple, to carry out  the president's plan for  economic recovery by focusing  the department of commerce on  saving american jobs and six  saving jobs for the future.  we must look over the horizon  and prepare for the new economy  that will emerge when this  recession passes.  simply put, we must rebuild,  retool, and reinvent our  national strategies for  sustained economic growth.  the department of commerce as  the president noted many times  must be able to do multiple  things all at once.  and with the talented staff of  the department of commerce i  know we can do all these things  and indeed more.  we must create private public  partnerships that bring together  businesses.  other federal agencies, state  and local governments,  universities and community based  organizations.  and together we will come up  with innovative solutions to  create jobs made in america and  stay in america.  to foster entrepreneurship and  growth across all sectors of the economy.  to deliver broadband to  communities far and wide, urban  and rural.  to support innovation through  cutting-edge honest science.  to protect our global ecosystem  and reduced federal deficit by  positioning the united states as  a world leader in exports.  in my home state of washington  trade is the lifeblood of our economy.  we are the most trade dependent  state in the nation with nearly  one to every three or four jobs  directly or indirectly tied to trade.  there's never been a more  important time for this country  to have strong and fair trade  partnerships around the world.  partnerships that protect  national interest while opening  the doors of prosperity to  american businesses and raising  the standard of living for  developing countries.  in both public and private  sectors i worked hard to open  global markets for american made  goods and services.  and more of a and free trade i  believe in fair trade and this  means we must enforce trade  agreements and confirmed i will  not only helped negotiate  complex trade agreements i will enforce them.  as a former prosecutor i believe  in vigorous and even enforcement  of the wall.  the success of the department of  commerce has never been more  important to the economic  success of america.  it is my hope you and the people  of this great nation will come  to know the department of  commerce as a champion of  knowledge, innovation, and  sustained economic growth.  mr. chairman, thank you again  for the opportunity to address  this committee should you  confirm my nomination i pledge  as secretary that i will  continually and frequently  inform and consult with the  members of this committee.  i now look forward to your  questions.  thank you.

thank you, governor.  that last statement was so  important because as secretaries  often say that and then failed  to follow-up on and that is  keeping in touch, that is not  just them but their chief lieutenants.  it's extraordinarily important  to us and our staff to be in  close touch.  i don't believe we should buy  our bills on our own.  i think we should cooperate with  you to get your input.  but that does put emphasis on  cooperation back and forth.  i am going to give you two  questions at once.  the census is just overwhelming.  you mentioned at the beginning  of 1,300,000, it's the largest  undertaking that our government  undertakes.  every ten years.  and the congress has declared  the census an emergency.  we have given a $11 billion.  the gao has placed the decennial  at the top of their list of  high-risk government enterprises.  despite these challenges the omb  and the department have  seriously underfunded paid  advertising, which is necessary  to get people alert and this all  has to take place on april 1st, 2010.  so the clock has been running as  we have all been waiting and it  is a real challenge.  so, there is some who actually  think that it won't happen.  it won't finish on time, which  will feed into my next question,  the dtv.  but i am interested on the level  of your confidence and what your  program as to make sure the  census is taken.  there's a lot of conflict about  the census and it's a very  harmful conflict to the fabric  of our nation and so it must be  done properly and rests on your watch.  the second is dtv.  as the ranking member pointed  out it ends on june 12.  and she was kind enough to  extended to june 12.  that is not much time.  and, you know, the range of  people who are not covered by  dtv not all of whom choose to be  covered by dtv is an enormous,  ten to 16 million houses.  and so it's a crisis.  so, how do you use resources  provided in the stimulus package  to make certain no consumers are  left behind?  i'm obviously coming from west  virginia very, very sensitive to  those who were caught in the  hollows and creek beds of a  state which is only 4% flat and  96% mountainous.  it makes it very difficult and  my interest obviously is very keen.  can you assure people they will  receive the coupons they need in  a timely manner?  it's a hard question i would  think to a answer.  can you pledge to be more  forthcoming to both congress and  to the american people to bring  the american people into this debate?  i think that is one of our  biggest problems right now.  we understand here, they don't  understand it all out of their.  and what is the ntia doing to  make sure were enough boxes will  be available and that there are  no regional shortages  particularly in smaller  communities.  so i would ask you those two  questions.

thank you mr. chairman.  first of all with respect to the  census it's an issue that goes  back to the founding of our  country and in fact the first  presidential veto in america was  over the census and a big debate  between hamilton and jefferson  and even president washington  was disappointed in the count  and thought that it was under  reporting.  with respect to the census i  know there's many members of the  committee that have raised that  and i will be forced to assure  you of the that the president  assured me the director of the  census will report to me and i  ultimately report to the president.  there will always be  consultation and information  shared with the white house and  with the members of congress  because everyone has an interest  in a full and accurate and  proper conducting of the 2010 census.  and i pledge to do that.

let me address the issue of  are we capable of doing it?  we are going to have -- we are starting behind and the gao  report documented failures of  acquisition and technology.  a whole host of management  challenges that we face and we  are going to have to devote  extraordinary efforts to this  and i intend to be personally  involved in overseeing this and  getting the right people in  place and making sure that wheat  and couch of and that we work on  this with absolute figure.  we are going to have to employ  very creative methods of outreach.  getting the message out to  people how important this is and  the impact this has to their  communities in terms of federal assistance.  we are going to have to be  creative in the use of  technology to get the word out  to expedite to be efficient as  possible because time is running out.  as you said, the count must be  made on april 1st, 2010.  with respect to the management  challenges that we face and it  goes to the issue of how are we  able to deliver and can we deliver.  and i want to thank you and the  ranking member for your  leadership in the extending the  deadline on digital television.  we will not be seeking  additional funds, more we'll --  nor will we seek the deadline.  let me say thanks to the  leadership and funding provided  by the congress.  we have a backlog of some  4 million coupons representing  some over 2 million households.  we are on track to have that  backlog completely eliminated by  next week and we are using  first-class postage to get these  two points out.  we have a concerted effort  working with the fcc to get the  word out and quite frankly i  have to tell you i think the  public service announcements and  education to the american people  has not been all that clear so  far.  i can't tell you of until, or so  ago i was not even aware of the  full implications of this  conversion.  most people who are affected  don't understand what the  digital or analog of television is.  and it wasn't until my brother  and lott told me because he  relies on a rabbit ears put this  all meant to him.  i think that the public service  announcements and the education  messages have to be crystal  clear that if you rely on that  and and on the roof of your  house or a rabbit ears you are affected.  we have to be very, very clear  so that the people who are  impacted understand this using  plain english and our broadcasting.  we are also trying to work with  the people to make sure any of  last coupons that they have that  they know they can be reissued  these coupons.  and again, we believe we can  process all of these  applications after next week  after the backlog has been  completely eliminated we can  have a turndown time of less  than ten days with respect  sending out coupons to any and  all people that want it but we  have to do a better job of  informing the american public as  to the consequences and  implications of this conversion  and the availability of  services.

we do have a management team  of redeem working on this and  i've been meeting with the fed already informally.  they have been giving me  progress reports on what is  happening and with the new  funding and the new emphasis on  clearing out the backlog working  with the fcc to reach people who  still may not have heard about  it that we will first of all  take care of the backlog and  reach we still have not applied  for coupons.

thank you very much.  governor locke, i want to have a  clear statement on the record  regarding the census.  and you have stated that it will  be in the department of commerce  and that you will share  information with both congress  and the white house.  let me ask you when we talked  you said that you believe it  must be absolutely accurate a  and you believe in accounting  actable individuals at the  correct locations and did not  think that we should use  statistical sampling.  is that your position and would  he elaborate if you would like  on your own position?


thank you, senator.  the supreme court has made it  very clear statistical sampling  is not permissible for  apportionment purposes.  that is the law, we will enforce  the law we.  that is the position clean and simple.  statistical sampling is used  with respect to determining  accuracy, determine whether or  not we need to do a better  outreach with specific  communities or parts of the  country and in fact we also have  long form and short form that  gets into the demographic  detailing and profiling of the  american population and american  families.  that is an added of sampling to  find out income levels etc., etc..  for the purposes of the census  as we all understand the  apportionment, statistical  sampling will not be used by the thank you.  

I think that is clear and the  expectation of all of us that  the actual count is what we  would be interested in assuring  and i think we are together on  that and i thank you for the  clear position you took both  with me privately and here.  secondly, on the issue of dtv i  think all of us have talked  about it and you have said that  you will make it happen.  however, i want to say i'm  concerned we haven't had a  nominee put 438 to lead the  ntia, your assistant secretary  position, and i wanted to ask  you if you are going to address  that if you can tell us today  that you have a nominee in mind.  where do we stand on having the  actual person in charge of the  dtv transition to come before  us? ..  very large funding  projects where the congress and  the american people and the  administration have expectations but with results and so we  can talk more about that.  with respect to digital  television, we have a deputy  assistant secretary at the ntia  that i have great confidence in,  who is very familiar with these  projects, brecks an incredible  level of energy and management  and oversight, so while we don't  have an assistant secretary for  ntia that has been officially  announced or nominated yet, the  department is moving forward.  we also have incredible  professionals in the department.  secretaries come and go and a  lot of these littal okay  pointees come and go.  there's a great deal of pride  and expertise within the agency,  and we are harnessing them, at  least the department assistant  secretary for ntia is harnessing  them to get the job done.

governor locke, i have  introduced twice in two  different congresses bills to  increase the research and the  data that we have on the  violence of the weather as in  more significant hurricanes and  also as i mentioned earlier, the  surge issue that really has  come, i think in very recent  times to cause the most  destruction, which would be  katrina and ike.  in addition to that, i think we  have -- we used to gather the  information regarding the change  in weather patterns where there  had been cloud seeding and other  weather modification efforts,  but that was actually stopped  years ago back in the 80s.  my question to you is, where do  you think we can most  effectively begin to gather this  data and begin research?  my open and my original thought  is that it would be in noaa, and  if you have any thoughts about  the best place to do it and  would you work with me to  develop this legislation going  forward so that we can achieve this.  we did not have the support in  the past from the administration  for the department of commerce,  and i think that is where it would logically stand.  so my question to you is, what  do you think and would you work  with me to achieve the right result?


thank you, senator.  we chatted about this when i  first met with you.  i believe noaa is the  appropriate place, a natural extension.  several people mentioned the  impact of the surge of seewater  every hurricanes, and given they  fact that noaa does that  research, it's a natural  extension of their capability,  expertise, and we must in fact  gather more data and engage in  more research with respect to  all of our weather patterns to  understand whether or not  modification of weather in one  region affects what the weather  would have been in another part  of the united states, and making  sure that whatever modification  efforts there are at weather do  not hamper and have dire  consequences for the weather of  another part of the region, bus  communities depend on that.  whether it's water for  irrigation, water for fish, or recreation.  and for drinking water for  people.  so i very much support that type  of research and data collection.  would look forward to working  with you on the legislation that  you might develop.

governor locke, over the  years i asked sever nominees to  the secretary of commerce how  they plan to stop the flow of  counterfitted goods like  software, video games or cds  that remain a huge problem for  us and protecting our  intellectual property.  what do you think that the  department of commerce should be  doing in this effort?

first of all, thank you,  senator cantwell for that  question, i have long been -- in  the public sector and private  sector, focusing on issues of  intellectual property  protections especially abroad.  when you go to other countries  you suddenly see a dvd of an  american movie just released the other day.  that's taking away money from  american companies and taking  away money that otherwise could  go into wages for the employees  in supporting the american  economy.  so i think we have to work  aggressively with respect to the  intellectual property  enforcement programs within  other countries, and we need to  work with other federal  officials here and other  agencies in america to stop the  flow of counter -- counterfeit  goods, whether auto goes,  consumer goods, software,  because it's taking away from  american workers.  and that's got to be the number  one priority of the department  of commerce, enhancing american  companies and the employees that  they support.

i'd like to follow up on that  because the u.s. foreign and  commercial services within the  department of commerce also  handles trade promotion, and as  we've seen the opportunity for  products and services to get  access to other markets.  one of the challenges has been  resolving disputes, and if you  look at the opportunity of our  products  products to foreignmarks, huge  opportunities but the number of  specialists helping us resolve  disputes, whether they're  sanitary or what have you, have  continued to grow.  so would you look to increase  the number of u.s. foreign and  commercial service trade  specialist overseas as a way to  help u.s. companies?

I believe our foreign  commercial service operations  are sometimes underappreciated  and unknown.  they are an incredible resource  to american companies wanting to  do business abroad, wanting to  sell their products abroad, wang  to learn more about the  opportunities abroad, and they  can also be great helpers in  finding potential partners and  clients and customer in other  countries, and simply to  understand the economic,  political, finance legal system  of other countries.  i think it's a resource that has  been uneven around the world.  we need to really focus on  improving the quality of those  services in every country where  they have a presence, and in  some areas we may need to beef  up the number of foreign  commercial service officers.

I think you know of my advocacy on clean energy  technology, particularly as it  rye relates to getting access to  overseas markets.  would you be willing to, in your  capacity, work with ustr to  eliminate clean energy tariffs  on u.s. products and services  for markets abroad.

clean energy and protection  of the environment is a top  priority of president obama, and  it's also an incredible  opportunity for the united  states to show leadership in the world.  quite frankly, we need the  cooperation of other countries  on climate change and  environmental protection,  environmental cleanup, and we in  the united states have so many  companies that excel in this  area, from alternative energy,  energy efficiency, to green energy.  that can create more jobs for  people here in america, while  exporting that technology to  other countries, to create a  better standard of living for  the people of those countries,  but ultimately for the entire globe.  environmental protection knows  no borders, and what we do here  at home in america cannot truly  be successful unless we get the  entire world to engage in this.  incredible opportunities for  u.s. technology, u.s. jobs here  at home, that have to be part of  our trade agenda, has to be part  of our trade agreements as well.  i very much applaud you for what  you have doing to showcase  american environmental  technology to address climate  change around the world, especially in asia.

thank you, senator.  and now senator snowe.  , who is gone. [laughter] thank you very much,  mr. chairman, thank you, governor.  i know you talked briefly with  senator hutchison about the dtv  transition and there's a lot of  where we are today is due to a  lack of notion how the converter  box program was handled and how  will you be more responsive to  the public as secretary?

thank you, senator, and if  i'm confirmed, i intend to work  very closely with the ntia  division of the secretary of  commerce for the department of  commerce.  we already -- the department --  excuse me -- his is on top of  this.  the assistant secretary at  nti -- the deputy assistant  secretary for ntia has already  informed me that by next week  they have -- hope to have the  entire backlog of couple upons  completely eliminated -- cop  upons completely eliminated.  they department inherited a  backlog of 4.2 million coupons,  representing over two million  households, and thanks to the  appropriation provided by the  congress and especially the  extension by this committee,  they intend to have that backlog  completely eliminated next week,  and the turn-around time for  future requests for coupons will  be less a than ten days using first class mail.  also a converted effort with the  fcc for outreach to populations  that still -- and people who  still may not be aware of this  conversion and as i indicated  earlier, we have to have a  better public service campaign  to announce and educate the  american people on exactly what  this conversion is.  too many people still do not  know that if they have rabbit  ears or the antenna attached to  the chimney of their house,  they're going to be affected  come june 12th.

so senator hatch and hi  public service announcement  didn't get through to everyone?  it was really a good piece.  i wanted to switch to -- but  thank you for that.  very good news about the  backlog. tourism.  as you know, senator dorgan has  a bill and i'm chairing the  subcommittee that includes  tourism, and as you know,  foreign vest visitors spent more  than $122 billion on u.s. travel  in 2007 and that was 13%  increase over 2006.  now with the economic times  we're in, we know that won't be  the same this time.  but it is very -- tourism and  exports account for 7% of all  u.s. experts, so it's a very  important piece of our economy,  and what i'd like to know, we  get a lot of people talk about it.  are you willing to look at the  commerce department to see how  you can best leverage the  existing resources of the  department to protect and grow  the global market for our  country and promote tourism and thank you, senator.

we have some people within the  international trade  administration that work on tourism.  tourism does generate millions  of jobs within our country.  and when you think about the  jobs indirectly connected to  tourism, hotel workers and  people in hospitality industry  are involved in tourism, the  shop in malls, eat in  restaurants and support other  companies, so the extent him and  pact of tourism is very large  and very broad.  there is a great deal of  interest, fascination with  america, among people all around  the world.  they think of the great cities  of america but they also think  of the great majestic natural  beauty of america, from the  grand canyon to the badlands,  our incredible, beautiful  national parks, and think of  america as a great of great  pristine environment, place to  visit, a place for recreation,  so we need to promote that.  how we do that, working in  concert with other states that  have promotion and tourism  programs, or major corporations  that run major theme parks and  attractions, that has to be  carefully sorted out, because we  have limited dollars dollars and how we  leverage the dollars on tourism  have to be carefully thought out.  i'd like to work with you on  clear emphasis on tourism  because that is dollars to local  communities and we don't have to  worry about the impact of  education and schooling.

last quick question just on  the broadband issue.  we have hit some very successful  public-private partner ships in  our state, and as you look at  the standards and the criteria  for getting this money out to  expand broadband, i just won  wonnerred if your experience as  governor of washington, your  experience with public-private  partnership, the best way to  expand service and make sure  it's not so slow. congress has appropriated  over $4.5 billion for broadband,  and it is to be done  expeditiously.  the president has placed a great  priority on this and has great  permanent -- personal interest  in bringing broadband to the  country and if confirm i hope to  bring the same management  processes i used in washington,  where on major projects we have  clear deliverables, clear,  coherent guidelines for the  deployment of these dollars.  and that we have monitoring  systems in place from day one,  and that we also have progress  final reports so we know what we  got for the dollars spent.  it's important that in the short  time frame that we have for the  deployment of these dollars,  that we involve all the  stakeholders, and the people in  the department of commerce have  already instituted a very  transparent, very open process  of soliciting input from  everyone.  no secret meetings.  public meetings, input and  suggestions over the internet  and all the comments are  available so everyone can see  what is being received by the  department of commerce.  from all of these idea we have  to disstill down to some common  themes so that at the end of the  day we are having true  leveraging of these dollars,  working in concert with the  programs and activities of  different states, different  regions, as well as the private  sector.  we need to make sure that at the  end of the day we have something  that is a unifying theme that  advances telecommunications for  people all around the country.

governor locke, aim going to  be supporting your nomination  imp think you're a great choice.  in terms of destination tourism  and getting our share of the  tourism, it's very job creating.  i put together a piece of  legislation and this committee  will be reintroducing it and  hopefully your support.  bipartisan, very significant  effort to increase international  tourism in our country.  i want to ask you about trade  specifically if i might.  last year's trade deficit was  $800 billion and the new  administration put out a piece  here says the president's trade  policy agenda.  interesting piece.  not the word deficit in the  entire piece, not one word about  the deficit.  the question is, in your  judgment, is an $800 billion a  year merchandise trade deficit a  threat to our economy?

we cannot continue to have  such large tread deficits.  that's why the department of  commerce must be an aggressive  and active champion in helping  reduce that trade deficit by  helping sell more products and  services around the world and  opening up markets for american  companies.


let me ask you about then  that, then.  our government borked a trade  agreement with south korea.  let me take one piece of it.  bilateral automobile trade.  south korea ships us around  800,000 vehicles a year to be  sold in our market place, we  ship them about 6,000.  just over 98% of the vehicles on  the roads in south korea are  made in south korea because  that's the way the country wants  it.  we have a trade deficit with  south korea.  we have negotiated a new trade  agreement and ignored the issue  of bilateral automobile trade.  do you believe we ought to deal  with the issue of bilateral  automobile trade that seems to  out of balance?

i'm not familiar with the  specifics of that a that trade  agreement and i don't know what  other markets may have been  opened up for american products  and services that may have  offset that particular issue  dealing with automobiles.

we did a bilateral trade  agreement with china,  $260 million merchandise trade  deficit see moment.  china is beginning to develop an  automobile export industry.  very aggressive and we will  begin seeing automobile experts  in a very significant quantity.  our agreement with china,  country with whom we have a very  large trade deficit, provided  the following with respect to  automobiles, after a phase-in  they could impose a 25% tariff  on american automobiles sold in  china and we impose a 2.5 %  tariff, a country with whom we  had a $200 billion deficit, we  said to them it would be okay if  you impose a tariff ten times our tariff.  does that seem fair, governor?

I understand that.  i think we also have to look at  the entire trade agreement and  perhaps what concessions or  openings were made for other  american products where perhaps  there's no counterveiling tariff.  on its face, obviously we need  to make sure that we're not  giving unfair advantage to the  products and services of another  country while hampering our  products and services going into  that country.

absolutely correct.  you have to look at the entire  package, and the verdict is in  with respect to china since  we've done the bilateral, the  deficit has gone up, up, up and  way up.  so whatever we might have  achieved somewhere else was  obviously not significant enough  to outweigh what we gave away.  i believe in trade.  i think our country can compete  anywhere in the world but i  think our trade agreements are  almost bankrupt, unbelievable.  you were asked about the mexican  truck issue today.  let me tell you what what  happened at the table.  we had a hearing on that subject  and what we were told, for  example, is that inspector  general 'with d.o.t. says we  don't have equivalent standards.  no centralized repository of  drivers records, accident  reports in mexico.  no central repository of truck  inspecks, and by the way, with  respect to the cross-border  trucking, one of the  requirements is to be fluent  inening accomplish the way they  determine fluency in enrich is  to have a driver from mexico  look at a stop sign, for  example, and then you inquire,  what is this, and the driver  would answer, alto, spanish for  stop, and the driver would then  be declared fluent in english.  the point is, we're not anywhere  near the point of having  equivalent standards and no  trade agreement, i believe,  should diminish safety standards  and mexico is employing tariffs  on sunglasses, grapes and other things.  i home you will not allow that &n

[nofakenews]

I hope you will not allow that  to stand.  we want to trade with our  neighbors to the north and south  and around the world.  we want trade to be fair, but  warren buffet himself indicated  you can't consumer 3% more than  you produce and run tread  deficits in the  $800 billion range and believe  that can be sustainable.  no one is describe he's trade  deficits as helping undermine  this economy and help cause this  crimes it has but no one wants  to talk about it because it  suggests your antitrade.  i'm for trade and plenty of it.  i support you, and i know you  vigorously support trade.  i hope you understand that these  numbers, $800 billion worldwide  merchandise trade deficit,  266 billion with china,  73 billion with jap an bush the  japanese one has been there for  12-15 years.  so we have to decide as a  country that we're going stand  up for our economic interests by  expanding trade in a manner that  is fair, that requires fair  trade rules for our producers as well.  so, again, i thank you for  listening to me and answering my  questions.  you have a great opportunity to  play a significant role here  because of your credentials as a free-trader.  i want you to succeed and for  that reason i am very processed  to vote for you and when you  nomination comes to the floor i  will have a chance to visit  about this a bit more.  i send you my best wishes and i  hope you have chance to read the  book i spend you and a chance to  spend some significant amount of  time to talk about this.

thank you.  let me make one point very clear.  i believe in fair trade.  i believe that if we don't have  environmental, health and human  safety standards, and other  things incorporated, labor  standards incorporated in trade  agreements, we are putting  american workers at a  competitive disadvantage.  and whatever agreements we have,  we need to enforce them.  i think too often in the past  when we have alerted other  countries to our concerns over  violations of trade agreements,  which have been hard fought,  involving tough negotiations, if  some of the elements of those  other -- o of the trait  agreements are nod enforced we  have given away more than we  have gotten back and as a former  prosecutor i believe in vigorous  enforcement of the law and i  will do everything within my  power within the department of  commerce if confirmed to enforce  those agreements.  let me give you an example.  when i was governor of the state  of washington, we pressed the  administration to enforce the  trade laws and impose  antidumping penalties for china  for apple juice concentrate.  pressed mexico and the  administration with respect to  trade poll policies and  differences with mexico.  our farmers, apple grower, have  to abide by standards, pesticide  and herbicide regulations and  products from other countries,  last continue america or south  pacific, don't necessarily have  to follow the same standards.  so the prices are cheaper.  that puts american farms and  american workers at a  competitive disadvantage.  believe it's appropriate to have those protections in our agreements.

 I appreciate that answer.  my time expired.  one final quick comment, much of  what we produce is intellectual property.  and it's very important to be  protected.  there's substantial piracy  around the world and you will be  in the position touting new  aggressive action to deal with  that but we must protect the  intellectual property we create  in this country and the piracy  and counterfeiting is up  believable.  so you would dill the invettors  and creators a great service.

thank you, senator.  governor, we're having a hearing  here tomorrow, a full committee  hearing on cyber security, and  this comes within our purview on  this committee, and it -- i  mean, not trying to be dramatic about it.  when the internet was invented,  everybody fell flat on their  face, they were so thrilled.  and the world began to do  business in a different way.  now, both the president bush's  director of national  intelligence, mike mcconnell,  who i greatly respect, and  president obama's director of  national intelligence, admiral  blair, who i greatly respect,  have labeled cybersecurity,  perpetrated through the  internet, as the number one  national hazard of attack on the  homeland in west virginia -- in  west virginia or america or anywhere else.  so, i mean, really -- it really  almost makes you ask the  question, it would be better if  we never invented the internet  and had to use paper and pencil.  that's a stupid thing to say but  it has genuine consequence  because it's on the internet  that these acts -- she  television saying that ads every  day saying that the department  of defense is attacked three  million times a day, and it's  true.  everybody is attacked.  anybody can do it.  people say, well, it's china and russia.  it could be some kid in latvia  doing the same thing.  it's an individual act.  it doesn't require sleeper cell,  doesn't require any ammonia or  explosives, just an act.  and yet it's an act which can  shut this country down, shut  down its electricity system,  banking system, shut down really  anything we have to offer.  it is an awesome problem.  the intelligence committee, were  we were taken for a full day to  an undisclosed place in virginia  to discuss this.  it is a fearsome, awesome  problem, and it's under your  watch, so to speak.  obviously it's broader than  that, too.  i wonder where this stands with  you, what your thoughts are, and  what you think we ought to be  doing about it.

senator, cybersecurity is  obviously of utmost importance  from a national security  standpoint to protection of our  way of life.  as you indicated, a cyberattack  could cripple the banking  system, communications systems,  electricity, how all businesses  operates, could bring our  country to grinding halt.  i know that the great  professionals, scientists at the  national institute of standards  and technology have been leaders  in this and been working with  other agencies and the labs and  it is something that every  federal agency is going to have  to work on, and together, in  concert with the members of this  committee and the members of  congress and of course the  president's security officials  as well.  i'd like to work more with you  and learn more about your  thoughts.  clearly it will require  interagency cooperation and  attention.

you have to work very close  live with the intelligence  community because it's a  question of trying to keep up.  you never get ahead of those who  perpetrate violence, this kind  of violence against us.  all we can try to do is to get  ahead for a little bit, then  fall behind.  it's a losing game for us.  and it's potentially a  catastrophic national event, and  i just -- i just think it's got  to be at the top of your list,  and americans don't know about  it.  we don't believe it's going to  happen because that's not the  kind of thing that is likely to  happen in a place called the  united states of america, but it  already has.  and it threatens the nation  unlike anything else.  more so than suitcase booms,  dirty bombs, plutonium bombs.  this is what threatens us.  i lay that down as a major,  major subject.  we will be having a hearing  tomorrow, be having many, many  others.  it's that serious. so senator cantwell.

 i wanted to -- governor locke  and i chaired the ocean  subcommittee of the commerce economy.  we worked on ways ways to improve  mansionment and oversight of our  oceans etch the puget sound  partnership in washington state  has been an innovative crabtive  and science-based effort to  manage the puget sound and an  ecobased management system  approach puget sound is the  second largestes stew wear in  the united states.  we're seeing dead zones already  from ocean acidification.  and so my question is, isn't  that ecosystem science-based  approach the kind of management  approach to ocean governance we  should be seeing throughout the country? you, senator cantwell.  president obama very much  supports the use of science and  not shackling the scientists,  and making sure that we have  good science, guiding all of our  decisions, and the puget sound  partnership is one that i  believe the department of  commerce will want to use as a  model in working with all thees  stew wears throughout the united  states and as a way of  addressing the issue of depleted  stocks, whether it's salmon,  whether it's red snapper, and other species.  those types types types types types types of collaboration and  using science as a guide for  subsequent actions, all of that  is the approach that we need to  have throughout the federal  government, and especially at  the department of commerce.

would you say that -- i know  you have been quoted before as  saying we need to look at  long-term goals like stock  recovery rather than just the  immediate needs, and obviously  fisheries management is difficult.  i assume you support an open and  transparent process on fisheries  management, but wouldn't you  agree in the long run we have a  long way to go with noaa and the  policies in creating a more open  and transparent process and focusing on recovery?

thank you, senator cantwell.  i just want to probe a little  more on cybersecurity because  when you say the current and the  past director of national  intelligence says the number one  national security threat, that  is a show-stopper, and people  don't believe it.  business doesn't believe it.  the big ones do and they're  trying to do something about it.  you mentioned nist.  several thoughts come to mind.  they set the standards for all this.  i remember when i'd been on this  committee about two years, now  been on it 24 years.  i went out out to nist and they  said they hadn't seen a senator  there in five years it raises a  couple of questions for me.  number one, your scope is so broad.  i mean, recently west virginia  is not exactly famed for its  ocean capacity, but on the other  hand the port of huntington is  the 7th largest operating port  in the united states of america,  including baltimore and los  angeles and all the rest of  them.  because of the ohio river.  and the coast guard has become a  matter of enormous interest to  me in protecting the power  plants and chemical plants, et  cetera, up and down the ohio  river which back up to the river  because they need to water.  there aren't enough coast guard  boats, speed boats with gun  capacity out there to make any  real significant difference.  so, one of the problems i think  in the commerce department is  that there are so many agencies  that do such crucial work that  don't get attention, and it --  two things occur to me, number  one, obviously, nist  relationship to cybersecurity.  what -- how does one fully  describe it?  and secondly, keeping good  people.  i'm not sure -- i mean, i think  here's an enormous surge of  public commitment to national service.  we're going to pass the national service bill.  the president wants one.  i think most of us do.  i was on the list of volunteers.  but the desire for national  security is enormous, but it  tends to be in the under 50  group or the under 40 group, and  the professionals who work in  key positions at the places like  nist, which has been flat-line  budgeted for a number of years,  keeping them, keeping the people  who can help us formulate a  policy on cybersecurity, is  incredibly important and one of  the things i worry about across  government is keeping our very  best people, that way will come  to feel there's too much and  they -- after some sort of false  starts, the bar now for being  allowed to serve in government  in a high position is so high  that i think it's actively  discouraging people from wanting  to participate.  people are looking for reasons  not to serve in government, even  though their instinct is to  serve in government because they  have a new sense of commitment  to the nation and their  obligation to the nation.  so these things clash.  so i'm just asking you two  things.  one is, what does -- what role  do you see nist playing in  cybersecurity, and secondly, how  are you going to go across the  department and pick out the  people that you want to stay and  encourage them to stay?  there's a lot of them leaving.

thank you, senator, and i  truly take to heart your  emphasis on the need to pay  closer attention on -- to cybersecurity.  i read you loud and clear, and  you've made an impression on me  with respect to that topic, and  i will learn much more about  that.  i'd be more than happy to sit  town and chat with you in  greater detail and the other  intelligence officials as well.  with respect to keeping good  people, i agree withoff that  president obama has excited  people around the country to  serve their communities, to be  engaged in their communities and  to serve their country.  whether it's tutoring in  schools, cleaning 'the  environment, you name it.  they're engaged and they're  concerned about the future of  the country.  the challenge now is to  capitalize on the energy and  enthusiasm into real permanent  change in america.  i can tell you that with respect  to government service, i have  long believed that it is a very  noble calling, and not just the  elected officials, not just the  top officials, but rank-and-file  employees, and when i was  governor of the state of  washington, our motto was, we  wanted the employees of the  story, regardless of what they  did, to be proud to call  themselves a state employee, to  be as proud as i if they were to  call themselves an employee at  microsoft or nordstrom or the  fred hutch chinson cancer  research center.  so we focused on programs that  interfaced with the public, to  improve interactions with  government so they could feel  that government was efficient  and effective and responsive.  we had recognition programs  after wreck nation and  competition among agencies.  i think we need that auto all --  at all levels of government,  pushing innovation and  efficiency and recognizing the  great work of government  employees so they can say  they're proud to look for the government.  we need to look at retension  policies, promotion policies and  compensation policies to keep  the best and the brightest.  i think any government official  will tell you that they've  always been -- always had a  problem of keeping their best  and brightest who were lured  away by the private sector or  other governments, state  governments, for instance, might  train the members of the  washington state patrol, the  premiere law enforcement agency  in america, judged the number  one law enforcement appearing in  the america, only to have them  lured away we higher pay by the  municipalities in the state of  washington or other governments  around the country.  so salary is an issue, financial  insensitived and rewards have to  be looked at to keep the best  and the brightest in government so. just want to make one  statement that should cheer all  this up.  the applications for the peace  corps, teach for america,  americorps, vista, all those  programs, all of them, are  higher this year than they've  ever been before.  and the quality of the  applications are higher than  they've ever been before.  that's a powerful statement from  people who want to serve their  country in a certain fashion,  social service.  at the other end of the  spectrum, but not really, the  same thing is happening at the  central intelligence agency.  and the defense intelligence  agency.  their applications are at an  all-time high now and the  quality of those applications is  at an all-time high.  so, somewhere in that fit it  says very good things about  american will.  what it doesn't say is it  doesn't get down to this solving  of basic problems like  cybersecurity, where we have a  generation now following another  generation that really wants to  help our country succeed.  senator hutchison. you.  governor, we talked about  defenses, and we talk about the  supreme court ruling that you  agree and will comply with the law.  one other point on that and that  is the supreme court did not  specifically mention the  intrastate redistricting.  what you have said on the record  is that you want team to be  counted -- you want people to be  counted one by one in the right  place as well, and that is what  would affect the intrastate redistricting.  is it your view that the  intrastate redistricting,  meaning every person is counted  in their appropriate place, is  also a function of the census  that should be adhered to, the  person in their proper place,  counted, so that intrastate  redistricting is also not going  to have statistical sampling? thank you.  i think that's clear and would  apply to intrastate as well.  let me ask you one last  question.  i think we have covered pretty  well everything here through all  the questions.  and that is the department of  commerce and the department of  interior issued joint  regulations last december on the  use of the endangered species  act for climate change policy.  and in the omnibus bill that  passed last week, it contains a  provision that the secretaries  of commerce and interior could  couldn't currently withdraw sent  60 days those joint esa regular  layings without having to go  through any notice or public  comment and without being  subject to any judicial review.  i am concerned about that, and  that a joint set of regulations  that went through their proper  process and all of the comment  periods, and were in a final  regulation, that you would then  be able to withdraw it without  any of those notices of proposed  rulemaking about the withdrawal  and the comment period before  any kind of final withdrawal of  that could be made.  what is your position on that  and is that something you're  looking at?  i'm not really  well-versed on the history of  those -- of that particular  issue.  all i can say is that it's  important with respect to any  listings of endangered species  that we physical the -- follow  the law and provide adequate  notice of any actions taken so  there's ample time for public  comment and feedback from other  agencies and other stakeholders. I think it was an expansion  of the use of the endangered  species act to affect global  climate change policy rather  than the normal use of the  endangered species act, which is  to protect endangered species.  so, my question would be, would  you agree that if you're going  withdraw a final regulation,  that you would go through the  processes of a notice of propose  el rulemaking, published in the  federal register with comment  periods before there would be  any kind of change?  that -- in the regulation that  was promulgated last december? well, the law -- the omnibus  bill did allow the withdrawal,  without going through the  procedures, and so you could  legally do something like that,  and i realize you're not  prepared to answer that, but i  would like an answer on the  record regarding your views on  implementing that, in my  opinion, erroneous direction  that could be used.  i don't think we should waive  the normal requirements for rule  makings and i hope you  wouldn't use the newly-given  authority that congress did pass  in the omnibus appropriations  bill, and i ask you to answer on  the record if you would go  through the normal process if in  fact you were going to withdraw  the regulation that was promulgated.

Let me just make a closing  comment and thanking you for  what has been an absolutely  superb on your part statement of  your values, you plans, your  history, your nature as well as  your wife.  and it's the following.  and senator hutchison just  complicated it a bit because we  agreed what we would like to do  is to have a rolling vote  tomorrow morning before the  first vote -- during the first  vote, and vote you out of this  committee.  now, it is also the practice  that people do have questions  that you need to answer.  so what i would strongly counsel  is that i have no idea what your  afternoon or evening schedule is like.  what i would like to have it  like is to get all of this  questions answered, even if you  don't write an enpsych enclosed  media on each one of them --  encyclopedia so we can proceed  with the rolling roll call  tomorrow and it's a matter of  getting unanimous consent from  the senate.  we always take our chances on that.  i would like to should you in  place as soon as possible for  the good of the nation.  with that, this hearing is  adjourned.

[GuyFawkes65]

Like Alex says..."they're fighting 20th century war...in the 21st century". The internet is our Ally...NOT THEIRS! That's why they're desperate to shut it down!

[Dig]

*Must remember, be careful what you ask for*

blaaaaaaahhhhh, blaaaaahhhhhh *blowing chunks* blaaahhhhh

WTF, how can people not see the obvious dictatorship we live in?  Just read the fricking orgy going on in the halls of congress as they all take turns raping individual thought, human spirit, creativity, freedom, justice, and liberty.

just a bunch of "animal farm" pigs gathered in a room discussing how much of our life they get to control....

In todays current atmosphere, it is good to remind ourselves of

Animal Farm. This is the Animated Classic version of Orwells Book

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqko1yNUv5I
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehmAJTfVIlQ
Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DnsmSxJTVE
Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pslrcrAJKbM
Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X4q446wKNM
Part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P83fiuCISYg
Part 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pouSevDWmL8
Part 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXlUO9yDWzI

[Dig]

I want to thank everyone here who contributed to breaking this fricking bombshell, this was truly a grass roots investigative action.  Flur, jofortruth, nofakenews, mike, anderson, brocke, david rothscum and of course Anti_Illuminati, lordssyndicate and TahoeBlue for all of the stellar investigative reports that allowed us to see so clearly what Heir Rockefeller is really saying.

That said, please see about creating more youtube videos including Joe Biden's warning, the interview with Anti_Illuminati , and then Jay Rockefeller's freak out session.

I think this is fairly explosive information that hopefully will expose and diffuse more of Jay's plans to tarket US Civilians for genocide.

[jofortruth]

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