HR1388 (Expanding National Service)-Collateral for the Federal Reserve Debt

[Kain]

Let me get it right...THAT'S IT?  It PASSED???

Correct. Go read it for yourself here right off the Senate site:

http://democrats.senate.gov/calendar/2009-03.html

[NMTO]

I am SO MAD right now!  TYRANNY!!!

[Waterboy2go]

They'll have to take me kicking and screaming.

[lee51]

Anyone know how the specific votes went by State?

[Kain]

I'm working on the full list of votes by senator. You can pick yours out of the list I'll be posting shortly. Transcribing my recording now.

[Elvis]

"The last days of democracy?"

Let's take a few moments to imagine that Daniel Hannan was there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceejnrM858k&feature=related

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2009/03/25/my_speech_to_gordon_brown_goes_viral?com_num=20&com_pg=1

[lee51]

thanks Kain--here is a list of co-sponsors along with NY who started this:

COSPONSORS(37), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)
Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 3/12/2009                 Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 3/9/2009
Rep Bordallo, Madeleine Z. [GU] -3/16/2009          Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 3/12/2009
Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 3/9/2009                  Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. [CT-3] - 3/16/2009
Rep Driehaus, Steve [OH-1] - 3/16/2009              Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 3/12/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 3/9/2009                Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 3/9/2009
Rep Heinrich, Martin [NM-1] -3/16/2009                Rep Hinojosa, Ruben [TX-15] - 3/9/2009
Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 3/9/2009                 Rep Holt, Rush D. [NJ-12] - 3/12/2009
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 3/16/2009        Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9] - 3/16/2009
Rep Kildee, Dale E. [MI-5] - 3/9/2009                   Rep Klein, Ron [FL-22] - 3/12/2009
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 3/12/2009          Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 3/12/2009
Rep Matsui, Doris O. [CA-5] - 3/16/2009               Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 3/16/2009
Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 3/9/2009                    Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] - 3/12/2009
Rep Perriello, Thomas S.P. [VA-5] - 3/16/2009        Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 3/9/2009
Rep Price, David E. [NC-4] - 3/16/2009                 Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 3/12/2009
Rep Sablan, Gregorio [MP] - 3/9/2009                   Rep Sestak, Joe [PA-7] - 3/9/2009
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 3/12/2009           Rep Sutton, Betty [OH-13] - 3/16/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 3/9/2009                Rep Van Hollen, Chris [MD-8] - 3/12/2009
Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 3/12/2009                      Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 3/12/2009
Rep Wu, David [OR-1] - 3/16/2009


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR01388:@@@P

[stymo1]

Vote Roll Call

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00115

Grouped by Home State
Alabama:   Sessions (R-AL), Nay   Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Alaska:   Begich (D-AK), Yea   Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Arizona:   Kyl (R-AZ), Nay   McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas:   Lincoln (D-AR), Yea   Pryor (D-AR), Yea
California:   Boxer (D-CA), Yea   Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado:   Bennet (D-CO), Yea   Udall (D-CO), Yea
Connecticut:   Dodd (D-CT), Yea   Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Delaware:   Carper (D-DE), Yea   Kaufman (D-DE), Yea
Florida:   Martinez (R-FL), Yea   Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Georgia:   Chambliss (R-GA), Yea   Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Hawaii:   Akaka (D-HI), Yea   Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho:   Crapo (R-ID), Nay   Risch (R-ID), Nay
Illinois:   Burris (D-IL), Yea   Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Indiana:   Bayh (D-IN), Yea   Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa:   Grassley (R-IA), Yea   Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Kansas:   Brownback (R-KS), Nay   Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky:   Bunning (R-KY), Nay   McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Louisiana:   Landrieu (D-LA), Yea   Vitter (R-LA), Nay
Maine:   Collins (R-ME), Yea   Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland:   Cardin (D-MD), Yea   Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts:   Kennedy (D-MA), Yea   Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan:   Levin (D-MI), Yea   Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota:   Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi:   Cochran (R-MS), Yea   Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Missouri:   Bond (R-MO), Yea   McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
Montana:   Baucus (D-MT), Yea   Tester (D-MT), Yea
Nebraska:   Johanns (R-NE), Yea   Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nevada:   Ensign (R-NV), Nay   Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire:   Gregg (R-NH), Yea   Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
New Jersey:   Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea   Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico:   Bingaman (D-NM), Yea   Udall (D-NM), Yea
New York:   Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea   Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina:   Burr (R-NC), Yea   Hagan (D-NC), Yea
North Dakota:   Conrad (D-ND), Yea   Dorgan (D-ND), Not Voting
Ohio:   Brown (D-OH), Yea   Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Oklahoma:   Coburn (R-OK), Nay   Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Oregon:   Merkley (D-OR), Yea   Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania:   Casey (D-PA), Yea   Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island:   Reed (D-RI), Yea   Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina:   DeMint (R-SC), Nay   Graham (R-SC), Nay
South Dakota:   Johnson (D-SD), Yea   Thune (R-SD), Nay
Tennessee:   Alexander (R-TN), Yea   Corker (R-TN), Nay
Texas:   Cornyn (R-TX), Nay   Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah:   Bennett (R-UT), Yea   Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Vermont:   Leahy (D-VT), Yea   Sanders (I-VT), Yea
Virginia:   Warner (D-VA), Yea   Webb (D-VA), Yea
Washington:   Cantwell (D-WA), Yea   Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia:   Byrd (D-WV), Yea   Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin:   Feingold (D-WI), Yea   Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming:   Barrasso (R-WY), Nay   Enzi (R-WY), Yea

[Cywar]

Serve America Act Passes the Senate
March 26, 2009

Today in the U.S. Senate, the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, 78-20.

The legislation re-authorizes and expands domestic and international service opportunities for all Americans.

Senator Orrin Hatch added an amendment at the last minute to re-name the legislation after Senator Edward Kennedy.

http://thenewservice.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/serveamericaactpasses/

[Elvis]

"The legislation re-authorizes and expands (compulsory) domestic and international service opportunities for all Americans."

[Kain]

This is not posted yet, as far as I know, I did it manually, so I apologize if there is any error.

Vote was 78 to 20. I think someone may have asked to change their vote after the fact, but it didn’t display his name. If that is the case, final vote would be 79 to 19.

Alphabetical by Senator Name

Akaka (D-HI), Aye
Alexander (R-TN), Aye
Barrasso (R-WY), NO
Baucus (D-MT), Aye
Bayh (D-IN), Aye
Begich (D-AK), Aye
Bennet (D-CO), Aye
Bennett (R-UT), Aye
Bingaman (D-NM), Aye
Bond (R-MO), Aye
Boxer (D-CA), Aye
Brown (D-OH), Aye
Brownback (R-KS), NO
Bunning (R-KY), NO
Burr (R-NC), Aye
Burris (D-IL), Aye
Byrd (D-WV), Aye
Cantwell (D-WA), Aye
Cardin (D-MD), Aye
Carper (D-DE), Aye
Casey (D-PA), Aye
Chambliss (R-GA), Aye
Coburn (R-OK), NO
Cochran (R-MS), Aye
Collins (R-ME), Aye
Conrad (D-ND), Aye
Corker (R-TN), NO
Cornyn (R-TX), NO
Crapo (R-ID), NO
DeMint (R-SC), NO
Dodd (D-CT), Aye
Dorgan (D-ND), Aye
Durbin (D-IL), Aye
Ensign (R-NV), NO
Enzi (R-WY), Aye
Feingold (D-WI), Aye
Feinstein (D-CA), Aye
Gillibrand (D-NY), Aye
Graham (R-SC), NO
Grassley (R-IA), Aye
Gregg (R-NH), NO
Hagan (D-NC), Aye
Harkin (D-IA), Aye
Hatch (R-UT), Aye
Hutchison (R-TX), Aye
Inhofe (R-OK), NO
Inouye (D-HI), Aye
Isakson (R-GA), Aye
Johanns (R-NE), Aye
Johnson (D-SD), Aye
Kaufman (D-DE), Aye
Kennedy (D-MA), Aye
Kerry (D-MA), Aye
Klobuchar (D-MN), Aye
Kohl (D-WI), Aye
Kyl (R-AZ), NO
Landrieu (D-LA), Aye
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Aye
Leahy (D-VT), Aye
Levin (D-MI), Aye
Lieberman (ID-CT), Aye
Lincoln (D-AR), Aye
Lugar (R-IN), Aye
Martinez (R-FL), Aye
McCain (R-AZ), Aye
McCaskill (D-MO), Aye
McConnell (R-KY), NO
Menendez (D-NJ), Aye
Merkley (D-OR), Aye
Mikulski (D-MD), Aye
Murkowski (R-AK), Aye
Murray (D-WA), Aye
Nelson (D-FL), Aye
Nelson (D-NE), Aye
Pryor (D-AR), Aye
Reed (D-RI), Aye
Reid (D-NV), Aye
Risch (R-ID), NO
Roberts (R-KS), NO
Rockefeller (D-WV), Aye
Sanders (I-VT), Aye
Schumer (D-NY), Aye
Sessions (R-AL), NO
Shaheen (D-NH), Aye
Shelby (R-AL), NO
Snowe (R-ME), Aye
Specter (R-PA), Aye
Stabenow (D-MI), Aye
Tester (D-MT), Aye
Thune (R-SD), NO
Udall (D-CO), Aye
Udall (D-NM), Aye
Vitter (R-LA), NO
Voinovich (R-OH), Aye
Warner (D-VA), Aye
Webb (D-VA), Aye
Whitehouse (D-RI), Aye
Wicker (R-MS), Aye
Wyden (D-OR), Aye

NO Votes separated.

Barrasso (R-WY), NO
Brownback (R-KS), NO
Bunning (R-KY), NO
Coburn (R-OK), NO
Corker (R-TN), NO
Cornyn (R-TX), NO
Crapo (R-ID), NO
DeMint (R-SC), NO
Ensign (R-NV), NO
Graham (R-SC), NO
Gregg (R-NH), NO
Inhofe (R-OK), NO
Kyl (R-AZ), NO
McConnell (R-KY), NO
Risch (R-ID), NO
Roberts (R-KS), NO
Sessions (R-AL), NO
Shelby (R-AL), NO
Thune (R-SD), NO
Vitter (R-LA), NO

[Kain]

Vote Roll Call

Well, carp, if I knew it was up and ye were going to post it, it would have save a hell of a lot of typing.

[Cywar]

What the F**K am I supposed to do with all the rage I am feeling right now?

[Kain]

What the F**K am I supposed to do with all the rage I am feeling right now?

Send everyone who voted 'Aye' a 'You-fvcking-suck-o-gram'?

[Kain]

Up next...

[independentWV]

Send them "I will not comply with any unconstitutional new world order crap" message

Roughly 18 recall states start petitions in those states.

[Kords21]

This is the letter I sent to Sen. Hutchinson of Texas after she voted yes for this nightmare of a bill:

Your continued support for the destruction of individual rights and the soverignty of the people and this country seem to be never ending. There's not too much that you can do that wil sway from ever voting for you in any capacity.

You are supposed to do the will of the people but all I see is you selling out to corporate intrests for your own gain. Rediscover what made America great in the first place and then look at your voting record and ask yourself "Am I being loyal to those ideals?" If you can say yes, then you are so far gone that you can lie to yourself to a scary degree. If you can lie to yourself why should I or any other person you claim to represent believe you on anything?

Continue on the road you are on and the next time you're up for re-election you'll have no problem finding directions to the un-employment office.

[JesusItrustinYou]

What the F**K am I supposed to do with all the rage I am feeling right now?

I am wondering the exact same thing!!!! Storm the Bastille!  I don't understand why the so called "lawmakers" in Washington aren't really, really, really terrified of what is coming...

[Kain]

[37]

Send everyone who voted 'Aye' a 'You-fvcking-suck-o-gram'?

You have a way with words...

On Passage of the Bill (H.R. 1388 As Amended )

So, that amendment about protesting is in there, or not?
It's still in the text of the bill at THOMAS...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR1388:

[TahoeBlue]

Liberty Tree

[Cywar]

This is the letter I sent to Sen. Hutchinson of Texas after she voted yes for this nightmare of a bill:

Your continued support for the destruction of individual rights and the soverignty of the people and this country seem to be never ending. There's not too much that you can do that wil sway from ever voting for you in any capacity.

You are supposed to do the will of the people but all I see is you selling out to corporate intrests for your own gain. Rediscover what made America great in the first place and then look at your voting record and ask yourself "Am I being loyal to those ideals?" If you can say yes, then you are so far gone that you can lie to yourself to a scary degree. If you can lie to yourself why should I or any other person you claim to represent believe you on anything?

Continue on the road you are on and the next time you're up for re-election you'll have no problem finding directions to the un-employment office.

I guess you know she wants to be our next Governor.

[Cywar]

I am wondering the exact same thing!!!! Storm the Bastille!  I don't understand why the so called "lawmakers" in Washington aren't really, really, really terrified of what is coming...

Because they are the Rulers - we are the Livestock - no worries on their part.
Somebody posted this video about the big plantation the other day - thanks whoever it was.

True News 13: Statism is Dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P772Eb63qIY&feature=channel

[Dewk]

        Their is alot of money in security. Supplying  feeding, Arming, clothing troops and security. Is allot more free money. to the posse.

[Cywar]

Send everyone who voted 'Aye' a 'You-fvcking-suck-o-gram'?

I will definatly do that as soon as I can trust myself not to write something that will get me arrested.

[Cywar]

yep - it needs refreshing!

[Elvis]

So, that amendment about protesting is in there, or not?
It's still in the text of the bill at THOMAS...
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR1388:

yes. Amdt. 49:

"Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing."

Offered:   Mar 18, 2009
Sponsor:   Rep. George Miller [D-CA]
Actions:   
Mar 18, 2009: Amendment (A012) offered by Mr. Miller, George.
Mar 18, 2009: On agreeing to the Miller, George amendment (A012) Agreed to by voice vote.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/amendment.xpd?session=111&amdt=h49

Mar 26, 2009 5:03 PM   Senate   
On Passage - Senate - H.R. 1388 As Amended
Bill Passed 79-19, 1 not voting (3/5 required)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388

[Kain]

How about this:

“Dear Mr/Mrs/Ms/Miss so and so, AKA ‘Traitorous piece of shit’,

Thank you for your vote today helping to implement the destruction of our nation.

Today will forever be remembered as the turning of the tide when our elected representatives officially sold us out to foreign interests and sold our children into indentured servitude/slavery.

May you worms gnaw out your eyeballs, and may Satan your cell mate sodomize you with a flaming pitchfork their diseased gangrenous appendage. Figuratively speaking. Please note, this is NOT a threat, and I hope you live an extremely long life. So that you may enjoy rotting in a prison cell for decades for your crimes.

Have a nice day.”

[37]

yes. Amdt. 49:

"Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing."

"What Insolence!  What Arrogance!"

[AlphaM]

And not a peep from the MSM.  Go look at the top stories at the moment.

[Cywar]

How about this:

“Dear Mr/Mrs/Ms/Miss so and so, AKA ‘Traitorous piece of shit’,

Thank you for your vote today helping to implement the destruction of our nation.

Today will forever be remembered as the turning of the tide when our elected representatives officially sold us out to foreign interests and sold our children into indentured servitude/slavery.

May you worms gnaw out your eyeballs, and may Satan your cell mate sodomize you with a flaming pitchfork their diseased gangrenous appendage. Figuratively speaking. Please note, this is NOT a threat, and I hope you live an extremely long life. So that you may enjoy rotting in a prison cell for decades for your crimes.

Have a nice day.”

Hey - thats good!  Thank you.

[Kain]

And not a peep from the MSM.  Go look at the top stories at the moment.

Exac-a-tac-ily.

One cannot oppose, what one does not know exists. They aren't going to tell the public jack shit about this until after the Prez signs it, and then it will be touted as the best thing since sliced bread.

[Kain]

Hey - thats good!  Thank you.

Send anonymously.

[Elvis]

"What Insolence!  What Arrogance!"

waterboarding

Historical uses

Spanish Inquisition

A form of torture similar to waterboarding called toca, and more recently "Spanish water torture", to differentiate it from the better known Chinese water torture, along with garrucha (or strappado) and the most frequently used potro (or the rack), was used infrequently during the trial portion of the Spanish Inquisition process. "The toca, also called tortura del agua, consisted of introducing a cloth into the mouth of the victim, and forcing them to ingest water spilled from a jar so that they had the impression of drowning". One source has claimed that the use of water as a form of torture also had profound religious significance to the Inquisitors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

[White Rose Sophie]

Send anonymously.

Kinkos and places like that send faxes.

Wouldn't it be funny if they all got faxes from "John Q Public"......"Your Hometown", USA? 

[PMF]

I bet the Gov will use these people in this mandatory service and use them to go door to door to gets our guns. The Gov thugs such as the FBI, ATF and etc will just stand back and let them be the ones who get shot by WE THE PEOPLE who resist instead of them (FBI, ATF and etc ) going door to door.

[TelepesT]

I bet the Gov will use these people in this mandatory service and use them to go door to door to gets our guns. The Gov thugs such as the FBI, ATF and etc will just stand back and let them be the ones who get shot by WE THE PEOPLE who resist instead of them (FBI, ATF and etc ) going door to door.

Good observation - It will be the branch dubbed - SECURE CORPS

[mr anderson]

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h1388pcs.txt.pdf

Page 195

[M3rcy]

Has anyone heard anything about what will happen if someone refuses to participate? Is there a punishment already in the works???

I mean there's going to be SOMEONE who tries to fight this on an individual level!!!

[Kords21]

There'd better be people besides myself who refuse to comply. I'm a freedom loving American I will not submit to this tyranny.