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« Reply #120 on: March 22, 2009, 01:23:38 AM »

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« Reply #121 on: March 22, 2009, 02:12:26 AM »

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SEC. 1304. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

Section 125 (42 U.S.C. 12575) is amended to read as follows:

‘SEC. 125. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

‘(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

‘(1) Attempting to influence legislation.

‘(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.

‘(3) Assisting, promoting, or deterring union organizing.

‘(4) Impairing existing contracts for services or collective bargaining agreements.

‘(5) Engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to any public office.

‘(6) Participating in, or endorsing, events or activities that are likely to include advocacy for or against political parties, political platforms, political candidates, proposed legislation, or elected officials.

‘(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.

‘(8) Providing a direct benefit to--

‘(A) a business organized for profit;

‘(B) a labor organization;

‘(C) a partisan political organization;

‘(D) a nonprofit organization that fails to comply with the restrictions contained in section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 except that nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent participants from engaging in advocacy activities undertaken at their own initiative; and

‘(E) an organization engaged in the religious activities described in paragraph (7), unless Corporation assistance is not used to support those religious activities.

‘(9) Conducting a voter registration drive or using Corporation funds to conduct a voter registration drive.

‘(10) Such other activities as the Corporation may prohibit.
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« Reply #122 on: March 22, 2009, 02:29:35 AM »

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances



What part of "Congress shall make no law" do they not understand?
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« Reply #123 on: March 22, 2009, 06:59:05 AM »

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« Reply #124 on: March 22, 2009, 09:49:52 AM »


Yes, i have written to my congrssman and senator.

Will it make a difference? Cynical , Ok, admitted, no argument.
I will not run the gauntlett today, no rants, no depresive withdrawals. We will stand up against this abomination, yes, we will write our illustrious pols, pass on the truth to those who have a functioning mind, and then we will wait, and wait and wait, for what, the inevitable.

These pathetic bags of human waste have been tearing this nation apart since JFK was assassinated, MLK & RFK. To mention a but a few of their activities. Their crowning glory, their day of conquest and receivership of the crown.

This will not stop, the swords will rattle, the few who resist will be labeled, the economy-(what economy), our wars will continue, our military will most certainly expand, our youth will be mindbent, resistance will begin, mob action will most surely activate, the fema camps will open their doors.

Anticipate a collapse, rights, freedoms,constitutional law, every fed. unit will be allerted to disident activity, infiltrators will be common place, foriegn troops will be patrolling our beloved streets, poverty will be the norm.

WHY. Their game plan has been active for decades, their underlings have been working 24 hours a day for a generation for this day to come about. The fronteirs of freedom have been replaced with the walls of tyrany. Americans in general have lived their lives in the sincere beleif they are free and righteous in this nation. Feeding from the efforts and sacrifices of our forefathers is past history. Psuedo Americans exist in numbers,or better still  SM's have no sane idea where this is headed, yes we need the word out there and we do our best to accomplish this. Will the majority listen, or will they remain in the safety of their desired illusion. Will the many back the current regime wether by fear motivation, insecurity, ignorence, blind patriotism, or a desire to close their eyes to the truth.

The fat lady will sing, yes, the element of truth will be injected into our society only when the light of truth is but blinding the braindead, when the poverty can not be escaped, when their children are placed in national service, when their homes are lost and their tents need repair. When hunger and illness spread, then and only then will Americans feel the loss of freedom and the hammer of tyrany.

I did not mean to rant, i am obviously upset, i see history repeating itself, the only difference being this is not Nazi Germany. In a sence the politicians gave up on the people as well as their oath. the majority of our citizenry have proven to our masters they are but sheep to be led to the slaughter, mindless flagwavers given to a dillsuionsal beleif that it can not happen here.

The upside, there is one. When the backs of the masses are up against the wall, when escaping the truth is a imposibility, when the efects of tryany are no longer hidden behind the curtains of rhetoric and lies, we will rise again. United.        CRY freedom.


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« Reply #125 on: March 22, 2009, 10:14:54 AM »

This is a Federal Reserve Collateral Bill.

Just like the Federal Reserve Stock Holder Bailout Bill.

The Bailout Bill went to the stockholders of the federal reserve (Citibank, Bank of America, etc.).  These are not the true controllers of the federal reserve, they are Rockefeller/Rothschild/Beatrix.  The Bailout bill passed while 99.99% of the American people were against it.

Jay Rockefeller in Wednesday's Commerce Confirmation Hearing said the following:


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Senator (D-WV) John D. Rockefeller IV
[In refererence to his leaking of the finalization of the national service act]
Wednesday, March 18th, 2009
Commerce Secretary Confirmation Hearing:
[ http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=284704-1 ]

[...]

I just want to probe a little  more on cybersecurity because  when you say the current and the  past director of national  intelligence says the number one  national security threat, that  is a show-stopper, and people  don't believe it. 
Business doesn't believe it. 
The big ones do and they're  trying to do something about it. 
You mentioned NIST. 
Several thoughts come to mind. 
They set the standards for all this. 
I remember when i'd been on this  committee about two years, now  been on it 24 years. 
I went out out to nist and they  said they hadn't seen a senator  there in five years it raises a  couple of questions for me. 
Number one, your scope is so broad. 
I mean, recently West Virginia  is not exactly famed for its  ocean capacity, but on the other  hand the port of Huntington is the 7th largest operating port in the United States of America,  including Baltimore and Los Angeles and all the rest of  them. 
Because of the Ohio river. 
And the coast guard has become a  matter of enormous interest to  me in protecting the power plants and chemical plants, et cetera, up and down the Ohio river which back up to the river  because they need to water. 
There aren't enough coast guard  boats, speed boats with gun capacity out there to make any  real significant difference. 
So, one of the problems i think  in the commerce department is that there are so many agencies  that do such crucial work that  don't get attention, and it --  two things occur to me, number one, obviously, NIST  relationship to cybersecurity. 
What -- how does one fully  describe it? 
And secondly, keeping good  people. 
I'm not sure -- i mean, i think  here's an enormous surge of public commitment to national service. 
We're going to pass the national service bill. 
The president wants one. 

I think most of us do. 
I was on the list of volunteers. 
But the desire for national  security is enormous,
but it tends to be in the under 50 group or
the under 40 group,
and the professionals who work in key positions at the places like NIST,

which has been flat-line  budgeted for a number of years,  keeping them, keeping the people who can help us formulate a  policy on cybersecurity, is incredibly important and one of  the things i worry about across  government is keeping our very best people, that way will come  to feel there's too much and  they -- after some sort of false starts, the bar now for being allowed to serve in government in a high position is so high that i think it's actively discouraging people from wanting to participate. 
People are looking for reasons  not to serve in government, even  though their instinct is to  serve in government because they  have a new sense of commitment  to the nation and their obligation to the nation. 
So these things clash.

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John D. Rockefeller IV has said to the American people that this is a done deal and it will target the brain trust of this country.

Here it is again:


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We're going to pass the national service bill. The president wants one. I think most of us do. I was on the list of volunteers. But the desire for national  security is enormous, but it tends to be in the under 50 group or the under 40 group, and the professionals who work in key positions at the places like NIST.
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« Reply #126 on: March 22, 2009, 10:20:06 AM »

People need to understand that these bills are completely unconstitutional.  They are written by the Private Federal Reserve, then pushed onto their congressional puppets to engage in one hour dog and pony shows before doing their masters' bidding. They might as well pass a bill that says you need to throw your baby out the window.  Would anyone obey that crap if congress passed it? They are not legal pieces of legislation, they are just more dictates of tyranny.

We need to just respect the constitution and continue to point out the unconstitutionalness of these false pieces of legislative toilet paper.
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« Reply #127 on: March 22, 2009, 01:14:16 PM »

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« Reply #128 on: March 22, 2009, 01:14:46 PM »

as i said they are going to have to take me kicking and screaming
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« Reply #129 on: March 22, 2009, 01:21:04 PM »

Well if everyone was doing as they should be doing it would not matter what "law" they passed in the house and senate because if every state would simply say..This is a violation of the constitution and we will not comply nor compel our citizens to comply they would have a hell of a time implementing these stupid laws..Are we targeting the wrong people? Should we be screaming at a federal government that turns a deaf ear to our concerns or should we take it to the state level where these laws get implemented?

We simply need to stop complying!
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« Reply #130 on: March 22, 2009, 02:05:52 PM »

^ ^ ^

Amen, to that brother.
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« Reply #131 on: March 22, 2009, 04:28:31 PM »

^ ^ ^

Amen, to that brother.

Here is my tactic:

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ACTION ITEM: STOP TELLING YOUR CONGRESSMEN HOW TO VOTE!!!     

They do not give a shit about you and vote only how they are directed to vote.

Instead let them know that you know who wrote the bills and what they mean.

Here is a script that I use:

"I am calling about the upcomming vote on the National Service Bill.  I would like the congressman to know that we realize this is a Federal Reserve mandated bill.  We realize that the bill is to use the American people as collateral for the illegal debt being artificially created.  We realize the bill is anti-constitutional and amount to endentured serviture to Rockefeller and his buddies.  We realize that Rockefeller has stated this for many years and confirmed it in Wednesday's Commerce Secretary Confirmation Hearing.  So please just let Congressman so and so know that we all know and all of his lies over the years have been completely exposed. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, NY Times, Washinton Post, Wallstreet Journal and other mainstram media news sources are all now realizing that the Federal Reserve owns congress and that congressmen really do not have any power.

I guess I only have one question, why would the congressman receive a bonus (congressional pay just went up) when he has failed in his job duties and helped to bankrupt this country just like the AIG executives received a bonus for bankrupting AIG?"


I guarantee you that you will wake up at least one person with that conversation.  They are not prepared with standard scripts to handle this.  They are only prepared to defend the vote not to deal with the exposure of why the vote is actually happening.
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« Reply #132 on: March 22, 2009, 06:08:15 PM »

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« Reply #133 on: March 22, 2009, 06:09:04 PM »

do we have a choice of what branch=\
i am curious to see how this plays out because of being removed from the DEP wouldnt i be high on the list?
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« Reply #134 on: March 22, 2009, 06:22:32 PM »

Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Fidel Castro....they all had youth brigades.  And now Obama wants to go down this road?  Enough.
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« Reply #135 on: March 23, 2009, 12:34:59 AM »

6104??
Where is that on here? The highest I see is 5102
And where does it say mandatory service?

Bait and switch alert.

That language is found now in HR1444
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1444:

Section 4 - Duties

B - (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
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« Reply #136 on: March 23, 2009, 07:44:53 AM »

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1444

Gov track link to HR 1444

In Committee - 4 co sponsors - introduced March 11th
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« Reply #137 on: March 23, 2009, 08:19:02 AM »

This will pass hands-down. Watch and see. Your representatives don't give half a shit what you think. They know which side their bread is buttered on.

99% of the American Public was against the banker bailout, and it passed with flying colors. There should have been peaceful protests and marches. What happened? Not a gorram thing.

Eden ain't burning... it's BURNT.
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« Reply #138 on: March 23, 2009, 08:29:34 AM »

Just think, when the Fed Reserve finally finishes its task of turning the US into a third world debtor nation, you will be called on to work off part of that debt, be it here or overseas. Indentured servitude / slavery anyone? Don't comply and find yourself in a FEMA camp scheduled to become fertilizer in the form of ashes.
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« Reply #139 on: March 23, 2009, 08:59:13 AM »

Contact the Senate. Use the contact form on their official websites, or phone or fax. We need to bombard their switchboards with calls.

Call the White House at 202-456-1111 and tell Obama to STOP all efforts to force us into servitude, take our guns and land a strip our 1st ammandment right to assemble. STOP the "GIVE Act" HB 1388. S 22 should also be NAY vote

Toll free numbers for the Senate and House: 1-877-210-5351, 1-800-828-0498 switchboards:, or fax your Senators, and demand them to STOP the "GIVE Act" HB 1388/S3507

You can send FREE faxes here: http://faxzero.com/ Attach a .doc or .pdf file or type (copy - paste) text into the text form provided.

Find your Senators officials website contact form/phone/fax#'s here:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

We will not comply!!!
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« Reply #140 on: March 23, 2009, 09:00:46 AM »

This will pass hands-down. Watch and see. Your representatives don't give half a shit what you think. They know which side their bread is buttered on.

99% of the American Public was against the banker bailout, and it passed with flying colors. There should have been peaceful protests and marches. What happened? Not a gorram thing.

Eden ain't burning... it's BURNT.

ACTION ITEM: STOP TELLING YOUR CONGRESSMEN HOW TO VOTE!!!     

They do not give a shit about you and vote only how they are directed to vote.

Instead let them know that you know who wrote the bills and what they mean.

Here is a script that I use:

"I am calling about the upcomming vote on the National Service Bill.  I would like the congressman to know that we realize this is a Federal Reserve mandated bill.  We realize that the bill is to use the American people as collateral for the illegal debt being artificially created.  We realize the bill is anti-constitutional and amount to endentured serviture to Rockefeller and his buddies.  We realize that Rockefeller has stated this for many years and confirmed it in Wednesday's Commerce Secretary Confirmation Hearing.  So please just let Congressman so and so know that we all know and all of his lies over the years have been completely exposed. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, NY Times, Washinton Post, Wallstreet Journal and other mainstram media news sources are all now realizing that the Federal Reserve owns congress and that congressmen really do not have any power.

I guess I only have one question, why would the congressman receive a bonus (congressional pay just went up) when he has failed in his job duties and helped to bankrupt this country just like the AIG executives received a bonus for bankrupting AIG?"


I guarantee you that you will wake up at least one person with that conversation.  They are not prepared with standard scripts to handle this.  They are only prepared to defend the vote not to deal with the exposure of why the vote is actually happening.
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« Reply #141 on: March 23, 2009, 09:07:01 AM »

^^^^^ Thanks Sane, I will use this too.
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« Reply #142 on: March 23, 2009, 09:22:32 AM »

^^^^^ Thanks Sane, I will use this too.

Senator Kennedy is the Queen of England's Knight's Commander.  He does what he is told and look at members of the executive branch admitting where they get their orders:


Remarks by National Security Adviser Jones at 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy

Published February 8, 2009

Speaker:    
James L. Jones

U.S. National Security Adviser Jones gave these remarks at the 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy at the Hotel Bayerischer Hof on February 8, 2009.

"Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through Generaal Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today.

((Article con't..))

http://www.cfr.org/publication/18515/remarks_by_national_security_adviser_jones_at_45th_munich_conference_on_security_policy.html

Make sure that they know that we know.

they have no power and are just parrots delivering messages on behalf of the private federal reserve.
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« Reply #143 on: March 23, 2009, 09:22:53 AM »

Does not mean we cant send dozens upon dozens of faxes..
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« Reply #144 on: March 23, 2009, 09:24:12 AM »

Does not mean we cant send dozens upon dozens of faxes..

absolutely, but just realize that they get 100,000 faxes with the same stuff and know how to deal with it.  the above message will be new to them and it may wake up some staff members.
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« Reply #145 on: March 23, 2009, 09:31:47 AM »

The Senate convenes at 2 p.m. to resume the motion to proceed to H.R.1388, a bill to reauthorize and reform national service laws. At 6 p.m., a roll call vote will be held on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to H.R.1388.
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« Reply #146 on: March 23, 2009, 09:37:17 AM »

I sent Crapo Henry Kissinger's National Security Study Memorandum 200
and he just ingored it. I even went to his office gave his staff member's there a print out of it.
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« Reply #147 on: March 23, 2009, 09:58:13 AM »



Oh yes ... the CHAIN OF COMMAND. Kissinger~> Generaal Brent Scowcroft~> Sandy Berger~> Jones.

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And who gives Kissinger his marching orders? Knights of Malta?

The Knights of Malta are important.

They are a Vatican order.

Reportedly they are linked to freemasonry.

Reportedly, the following are/have been members:

David Rockefeller
Reinhard Gehlen (Nazi)
Heinrich Himmler
Franz von Papen (Hitler enabler)
Fritz Thyssen (Hitler’s financier)
George W. Bush
George Tenet (CIA chief at the time of 9 11)
Henry Kissinger
Michael Chertoff
Rupert Murdoch
Tony Blair
Precott Bush, Jr.
Licio Gelli
J. Edgar Hoover
Joseph Kennedy
onald E. Reagan
Giscard d’Estaing
Allen Dulles
Oliver North
George H.W Bush
William Casey

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2008/10/cia-vatican-knights-of-malta-fascism.html

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« Reply #148 on: March 23, 2009, 10:21:34 AM »

The Senate convenes at 2 p.m. to resume the motion to proceed to H.R.1388, a bill to reauthorize and reform national service laws. At 6 p.m., a roll call vote will be held on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to H.R.1388.

Senators permitted to speak for up to 10 minutes each.

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« Reply #149 on: March 23, 2009, 10:32:55 AM »

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re: speeches

That should be interesting.
Thanks for staying on topic, today's the day to stop this!

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« Reply #150 on: March 23, 2009, 11:40:56 AM »

Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Fidel Castro....they all had youth brigades.  And now Obama wants to go down this road?  Enough.
Enough was prior to the bailout. We're way past enough.
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« Reply #151 on: March 23, 2009, 12:23:54 PM »

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_wm.aspx

Senate session on C Span2 but not started yet still in backroom twisting arms I am sure.
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« Reply #152 on: March 23, 2009, 02:13:31 PM »

Barbara Mikulski - Dem Senator Maryland for NWO on now in favor of National Service - full of it!
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« Reply #153 on: March 23, 2009, 02:39:53 PM »

This woman is about as utterly ignorant as they come. Vote is scheduled now for 5:45 PM EST. Roughly an hour and 15 minutes from now. This ought to be good.

Care to bet dimes to donuts whether this passes? Vote now! Wink

I say the dumb bastards pass it hands down.
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« Reply #154 on: March 23, 2009, 02:41:00 PM »

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« Reply #155 on: March 23, 2009, 02:54:47 PM »

Here is my tactic:

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ACTION ITEM: STOP TELLING YOUR CONGRESSMEN HOW TO VOTE!!!     

They do not give a shit about you and vote only how they are directed to vote.

Instead let them know that you know who wrote the bills and what they mean.

Here is a script that I use:

"I am calling about the upcomming vote on the National Service Bill.  I would like the congressman to know that we realize this is a Federal Reserve mandated bill.  We realize that the bill is to use the American people as collateral for the illegal debt being artificially created.  We realize the bill is anti-constitutional and amount to endentured serviture to Rockefeller and his buddies.  We realize that Rockefeller has stated this for many years and confirmed it in Wednesday's Commerce Secretary Confirmation Hearing.  So please just let Congressman so and so know that we all know and all of his lies over the years have been completely exposed. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, NY Times, Washinton Post, Wallstreet Journal and other mainstram media news sources are all now realizing that the Federal Reserve owns congress and that congressmen really do not have any power.

I guess I only have one question, why would the congressman receive a bonus (congressional pay just went up) when he has failed in his job duties and helped to bankrupt this country just like the AIG executives received a bonus for bankrupting AIG?"


I guarantee you that you will wake up at least one person with that conversation.  They are not prepared with standard scripts to handle this.  They are only prepared to defend the vote not to deal with the exposure of why the vote is actually happening.

I dig that.  Good idea.
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« Reply #156 on: March 23, 2009, 03:01:20 PM »

i've been sending info on bills to all the local news outlets here.  i mean i know they probably aren't gonna do a story on it, but it might wake some people up. 

the congressmen and women who are voting this shit through don't want to be exposed.  they know 95% of their constituents don't have a freaking clue.  they use that to their benefit.  they know what they're doing, but they don't want anyone else catching on.   i'm hoping for local exposure which might at least help slow the process.

it might make them think twice knowing that the issue will arise come re-election.
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« Reply #157 on: March 23, 2009, 03:14:13 PM »

S.22 in the bill?

S 22 is a mammoth bill comprised of over 190 separate pieces of legislation and was quietly "tucked" within the massive Omnibus Spending Bill, but now it has been slipped into the crevaces of the massive "Forced Servitude" Bill HB1388. S. 22 includes a rule that will not allow pro-gun representatives to offer amendments.

http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/1st-amp-2nd-ammendment-doomed
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« Reply #158 on: March 23, 2009, 03:17:14 PM »

S. 277

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-277
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« Reply #159 on: March 23, 2009, 04:24:37 PM »

Just passed

Yay: 74
Nay: 14
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