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Words can not describe how I feel, I am exiled in the UK away from my husband and babies and I so much love and miss them, I am heartbroken about my ordeal. I am so upset and overwhelmed by it all. I am not taking anything for my depression. I'm trying to hang in there, but it is hard.
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RON PAUL DELIBERATLY VIOLENTLY TARGETS NON COMBATANTS.
He uses torture, threat, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons (including depleted uranium) to achieve his political goals.
Oh wait, no that's the U.S. Army.
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Ron Paul in on with beck in a couple of minutes. i think they are going to talk about this very issue.
I hope Congressman Paul is temporarily possessed by the spirit of Alex Jones and asks Beck: "Does this mean you apologize for engaging in the very same smear tactic yourself in late 2007?" http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7358
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here is the transcript of his radio interview with him today. waiting for the tv transcript to be posted.
GLENN:My name is Glenn Beck. Mr. Ron Paul, Congressman Ron Paul is with us now. Congressman, are you now or have you ever been a member of the libertarian party?
RON PAUL: Boy, that's a tricky question. If I answer honestly, could I be in trouble? That's the big question.
GLENN: Well, I wanted to know if you answer yes to that and you happen to have a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car, you're definitely a militia member.
RON PAUL: Uh-oh. Well, since this is a public record, I have to tell you the truth. Yes, I have been a member.
GLENN: Are you -- do you have a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car?
RON PAUL: Yes, I do.
GLENN: Oh, boy.
RON PAUL: That too --
GLENN: You just stay on the phone. We're tracing the call right now. You just stay on the phone.
RON PAUL: Yeah, but you may be traced as well for bringing up the subject.
GLENN: I know. Oh, I know they are tracing my calls.
RON PAUL: You better be careful, too.
GLENN: Listen, Congressman, there was this story that came out last week about Missouri where they did this study on who's a militia member, and there were some pretty remarkable things in there. For instance, if you have a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car, that's a sign. If you talk about the Constitution, if you're against the United Nations, if you've ever passed along cartoons against the FBI, ATF or IRS, that's another sign. I mean, it's -- this is insane.
RON PAUL: You know, they are really taking on something. I don't know how they can handle this. Hopefully this will awaken the American people because I think I saw a poll the other day where 25% of the American people now think the UN is not a good idea and we should be out of it. What are they going to do? Round us all up or what?
GLENN: Well, I will tell you, I will tell you this. The latest on the United Nations is that today they said that the G20 should be disbanded and they should have a security council for the economies and 1% of everyone's stimulus package needs to go to the UN. That's crazy!
RON PAUL: That's the -- you know you are not supposed to waste a crisis, as Emanuel, as Rahm Emanuel says. So this crisis is going to be used to the people who do believe in world government. I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think they are pretty honest.
GLENN: Oh, yeah.
RON PAUL: I think they are open about it. They believe in it every bit as much as we believe in national sovereignty and personal liberty. They think you should have world government. This crisis now is not only a danger to us for the economic reasons but it's a danger to our liberties and the whole concept of what the United States stands for.
GLENN: Congressman, what do you think -- well, first of all, let's go right to the Geithner bailout now of the banks, of buying the toxic assets for $1 trillion. This was the plan that was the original TARP plan that they then came out and said it would not work, it would have been a disaster and now they are saying they have to do it and it's going to be the savior. It's a trillion dollars.
RON PAUL: Yeah, you know, and it's just redundancy like you said. That was the original plan they tried and tried. But the Fed unfortunately already has the authority to do and they announced last week that they were going to buy up these toxic assets.
GLENN: Hang on.
RON PAUL: So how many times can they buy these?
GLENN: Hold it. Hold it just a second. I'm sorry to interrupt. I swear to you this is just, this is according to the treasury, they have just announced that toxic assets are no longer toxic assets. They are now to be called legacy assets.
RON PAUL: Lying through their teeth.
GLENN: I just wanted to correct that -- we've got to get the right phrases here. So you were talking about the toxic, the legacy assets.
RON PAUL: What it is is they're worthless. You know, they claim that there's no market for them. Well, there is no market because they're worthless. They are finding victims and we're the victims. The taxpayers are the victims. They can't sell them because they have no value and they should allow them to be eliminated. They have to be liquidated. But this whole idea that they have to be bought up is preposterous. That's why they wouldn't -- this thing could be practically over if they just allow these companies to go into bankruptcy. The bankruptcy court would have handled this, we wouldn't have had to appropriate any money, we wouldn't have had to mess with regulating salaries. That whole thing could have been stopped just by following the law which should have been bankruptcy court.
GLENN: Okay. So now we have a trillion dollars that they are proposing. The Fed and the treasury are coming out and saying it's a $2 trillion problem but we will have -- we'll take a trillion of it. However, they were the same people that were telling us just six months ago that this is probably a $500 billion problem and they were going to overwhelm it with $700 billion in bailout money. Now the experts are saying, no, no, the treasury's wrong; this is probably a $4 trillion problem. Is there a point, congressman, where you see your fellow congressmen saying, "Okay, enough is enough?
RON PAUL: No, they are like an addict. They are addicted. They don't know what else to do. They don't understand free market economics. They are in deep now. So they are not going to back off. And I've been saying this for a little while and that is because we're locked into this mentality, I think they are going to destroy the dollar before -- it's going to stop with the destruction of the dollar. We won't be able to afford it. There's no reason in the world to trust the value of the dollar long term and yet right now the world is still gravitating to the dollar. People are buying treasury bills, interest rates are very low. But that's going to end. Otherwise this would be a free gift to us and we could bail ourselves out forever and we wouldn't have to work and all we have to do is print money and buy stuff from overseas. So it would have to end. There's no way in the world that you can create these trillions of dollars. Already the Fed has committed to more than $5 trillion of either direct loans or guarantees. So the commitment is overwhelming. All the pressure is on the dollar and soon -- we saw a little bit of what can happen last Wednesday when the Fed announced their trillion dollar thing. You know, the dollar within 24 hours went down 4 1/2%. So if it can do that in one hour, what could happen when people panic out of the dollar and the Chinese dump their dollars. Very, very dangerous situation.
GLENN: Congressman Ron Paul, last week, I think it was on Wednesday at 3:00 in the afternoon, we started to monetize our own debt. Every economic expert that I have talked to that I believe has credibility because they weren't saying, "Oh, there's no problem, there's no problem," they haven't changed their tune. All the economic experts that were talking to me now that actually have a record of being right said this is end game here, this is the beginning of the end where you buy the debt from yourself for another trillion dollars. It's the death spiral. Do you agree or disagree with that?
RON PAUL: Absolutely. And although they have monetized debt and they bought them in the market, they've never done this before, although they've had the authority to do it. They buy it directly from the treasury. So congress in a way, they are not going to put their foot down because that bails them out. Congress can appropriate endlessly and the people in charge right now happen to believe that's a proper way of solving these problems. So --
GLENN: Where is this trillion? They printed a trillion dollars yesterday -- or last week. Where is this trillion dollars coming from with Timothy Geithner?
RON PAUL: Well, they are going to start off with getting I think $100 billion from the TARP funds. And even though last week they talked about that $1 trillion, that hasn't transpired yet. That is just in the, you know, in the pipeline. But it will come about. But they've been doing this all along. So if they appropriate money, it ends up the Fed has to monetize it eventually anyway. And then if the Fed buys the debt directly and buys these mortgage debts directly, there's really no real reason for the treasury to be doing this because the Fed can do it. They could have done it all along. They are either awfully confused or they are trying to hide something, which maybe it's both.
GLENN: Congressman, the concept came to me today as I was talking about Barack Obama and his, I think it's $634 billion, you know, in a down payment for healthcare that they are just pulling off to the side. First question, is there an escrow account where we should be watching where they are pulling this $634 billion off to the side? Where is that lockbox as Al Gore used to talk about?
RON PAUL: That's not there. As all this promise that you can deficit finance and print the money.
GLENN: Okay.
RON PAUL: And it's endless. It never stops. It's absolutely bizarre. It's just a wonder that the markets are doing as well as they are doing. The markets are doing lousy. The dollar is doing better than it deserves but that, of course, is going to quit.
GLENN: The other question that I have is at what point -- I mean, you know, I don't hear anyone talk about what it looks like. I mean, what we have basically is a giant balloon payment. At some point we're going to have to pay for all of this stuff and I don't hear anybody talking about it. At what point is it in our best interests to let the dollar collapse because we can't -- our children will be paying 80% taxes all across the board because we can't pay for that?
RON PAUL: Well, at a certain point you can't pay it and the debt won't be paid. It's how it's liquidated. When you or I, if we go bankrupt, we can liquidate debt by just not paying, going to bankruptcy court. Governments don't do that. What they do is they want inflation. They are working real hard to inflate because if they can double the money supply, your dollar lose half its value, your real debt is only one half. So they pay it off, you know, with junk money. So that is what they are hoping for because they know they can't pay the debt, the American people can't pay the debt, but the debt has to be liquidated. Governments liquidate it by inflation. So that's why you can be assured that the inflation is coming, and Bernanke has never hidden from that. He has always said he knows how to inflate like nobody else has, and he is working diligently at this, which means that he is doing an immoral, unconstitutional, bizarre act of destroying the value of the money. People should go to jail for this. If you do it or I do it, that's counterfeiting. But it's the same thing and they are doing it deliberately and that's how they will take care of the debt.
GLENN: The idea that these militias are creeping up, I mean, on this program I've asked you before, I think when you were running for president, I said to you, I talked to some of the people that are Ron Paul supporters or claim to be that are 9/11 Truthers, et cetera, et cetera. I think there are dangerous people on the left and the right. Some of them vote for Ron Paul, some of them voted for Barack Obama, some of them voted for John McCain, some of them voted for people I've never even heard of. Some of them don't vote at all, but I fear that there is -- some of us have at least been consistent in saying that we're on a road to fascism. We said it under George W. Bush and we're saying it now under Barack Obama. It's the same problem, just a different party and a different face. How worried are you that the Constitution is viewed as a code word, that we are entering a time when the conditions are growing more in the favor of being able to stomp down any kind of opposition by the parties in Washington?
RON PAUL: Well, I think the worse the economy gets, the more polarized the people become because wealth dissipates and people get poor and they get angry and they misdirect their anger and therefore, you know, there's always a threat of violence and, of course, that is what I've worked so hard to try to avoid because I consider it an intellectual fight. I believe that if people know why it's in their best interest to defend the constitution of personal liberty, we can achieve victory on this. But if there's a lot of confusion, then people say these people are scoundrels, and they are, and they feel desperate. They don't know anything else to do. So they want to resort to violence. And in that is where the danger comes from. Inflation wipes out the middle class, leads to political chaos and then the destruction of the political system. And we've about done, have done in the economic system. So now we're seeing the early and rising tide of political chaos and that to me is the dangerous phase. So I don't know how to reverse this other than promoting a better idea to beat their ideas and their ideas as internationalism, globalism, printing press money, Federal Reserve, don't give a hoot about the Constitution and just once again believe in individual freedom and have confidence that freedom works and that's how you get prosperity. And you don't have to be a bleeding heart thinking that the only way you can take care of people because quite frankly that backfires and creates more poor people, not more wealthy people.
GLENN: Do you -- do members of congress and the Senate, are you moved by the amount of mail? When they were sending tea bags to people, did that make a difference? Does it make a difference to have the phone calls come in? Does it make a difference if they would march on Washington and let people see their faces? What makes a difference to these people at this point?
RON PAUL: On occasion it does. I think this whole thing that congress felt compelled to do something about those salaries was a reflection that if the people rise up, the congress will react. But unfortunately, you know, that was so superficial and misdirected and missed the whole point and they should have never had the money in the first place. So that was not the answer. But the answer is, yes, if enough people rise up and tell their members, "Look, if you don't do it, we're going to throw you out" and then end up throwing them out, members, most people in Washington are very politically oriented and if it's a true resistance by the people, it does some good. Otherwise I wouldn't be involved in this at all. But the problem is it takes a long time for the transition and it gets too risky and right now we're facing this crisis of who knows how it's going to turn out. But we should know soon because we live in very, very dangerous times and events are moving rather rapidly.
GLENN: Do you see more people coming to your side in Washington? Do you see more people that are starting to get it or is it still just as mindless as it always has been?
RON PAUL: I think it's better. It's certainly better outside of Washington. I hope when I go to St. Louis this weekend, it will be better out -- that's where I meet people that agree with me. But in the past what I've been introduced have been bills that have been looked at and not only to be nice but I've been always marginalized. But I have this bill in this just to open the books of the Fed, just to audit the Fed which is H.R. 1207. I have over 40 sponsors on that. That's pretty good for me and I think the momentum's going to pick up on that because everybody now in Washington has heard once again from the American people, you guys better get your house in order, you at least ought to have transparency. And when people hear that the Fed does not even -- is not even required to answer our questions, people become outraged. So I think that is the first step to reforming our monetary system.
GLENN: Ron Paul, congressman from Texas, thank you so much, sir.
RON PAUL: Good, nice to be with you.
GLENN: You bet, bye-bye. Congressman -- is he still there? Oh, shoot. Are you there, Congressman?
RON PAUL: I am here.
GLENN: I just wanted to know, you don't have one of those snake flags, do you?
RON PAUL: I do. Should I put it away?
GLENN: I would -- well, no. Then you are hiding it. Then we know you've got something to hide.
RON PAUL: Boy, I'm trapped.
GLENN: We'll send Homeland Security over to your place.
RON PAUL: When are you going to hang it up behind you when you're on TV?
GLENN: I warn you -- you missed, I think it was Thursday, the episode, I wore a T-shirt with it on.
RON PAUL: You are getting brave here.
GLENN: You got that right. Thanks a lot. You bet. Bye-bye. When am I going to wear it on TV? I'm only doing it, though, because that's exactly what they want me to do. I'm just trying to throw everybody off the track (whispering). I'm really part of it.
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« Reply #127 on: March 23, 2009, 04:31:29 PM » |
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^ that sounds like it was a good interview (most RP interviews are).
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@ram: That was funny. I just posted this in Parody, but maybe it's needed in this thread.. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94939It's a very well done parody of the MIAC documents, which details the 'police state movement' and more importantly, it responsibly diffuses the divide & conquer agenda. The balance of humor and dreadfully-seriousness could make it a cunning tool.
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« Reply #129 on: March 23, 2009, 04:56:44 PM » |
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Wow, so fast... thank you Internet!
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« Reply #132 on: March 23, 2009, 06:15:24 PM » |
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What a great interview! Please deport Ron Paul to Canada ASAP!
He's the only politician on Earth who is worthy of the job.
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« Reply #133 on: March 23, 2009, 06:31:37 PM » |
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Wow, so fast... thank you Internet!
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« Reply #134 on: March 23, 2009, 07:51:26 PM » |
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Somebody no likey the internets...  hahahaha thats funny. yeah it was a good interview with RP. Both the radio and the tv one.its good to see him getting more and more main stream attention, even if its due to TPTB trying to smear him.
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State Apologizes to Paul, Barr & Baldwin Over MIAC Report http://www.prisonplanet.com/state-apologizes-to-paul-barr-baldwin-over-miac-report.htmlBut “domestic terror” smears against anti-abortion, anti-gun control, bumper sticker political activists will remain Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Tuesday, March 24, 2009 The uproar that ensued as a result of our original story about a document issued by the Missouri Information Analysis Center which smeared third party supporters as potential domestic terrorists has forced the Missouri Department of Public Safety to issue an apology to Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr. However, references to people who are anti-abortion, anti-gun control, knowledgeable about the Constitution and even those who simply display political bumper stickers will remain. As we revealed in our exclusive report two weeks ago, a leaked secret report distributed by the federal Missouri Information Analysis Center lists Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, people who display bumper stickers, people who own gold, or even people who fly a U.S. flag and equates them with radical race hate groups and terrorists. The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties. The MIAC report (PDF) does not concentrate on Muslim terrorists, but rather on the so-called “militia movement” and conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order. Even after an uproar ensued as a result of widespread media coverage of the report, Missouri Governor Jay Nixon had the temerity to stand behind the document despite its blatantly erroneous content and blasé defamation. However, days after Paul, Baldwin and Barr signed a joint letter demanding that references to themselves and their affiliated political groups be removed from the report, along with a hint of legal action if this didn’t occur, the Missouri Department of Public Safety has issued a formal apology. (ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW) “Portions of that report may be easily construed by readers as offensive to supporters of certain political candidates or to those candidates themselves,” Department of Public Safety Director John Britt wrote in his apology letter (PDF) to Paul, Barr and Baldwin. “I regret that those comments were ultimately included in the final report issued by the MIAC.” “Unfortunately, in the course of preparing this report, some regrettable information was included in the report on militia groups in Missouri,” Britt wrote. “While the intent of the report was only to identify certain traits that are sometimes shared by members of militia organizations, this report is too easily misinterpreted as suggesting that militia members may be identified by no other indicator than support for a particular candidate or political organization.” “I have ordered that the offending report be edited to excise all reference to Ron Paul, Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin,” the letter concludes, without a promise to retract the report altogether, much to the chagrin of the multitude of other banal groups demonized as potential domestic terrorists. Missourians United For Life, an anti-abortion group, has filed a complaint with the American Civil Liberties Union against Governor Nixon following his public support of the document. “What Governor Nixon is telling Missourians is if you disagree with him on the issue of life or display a pro-life bumper sticker or wear a pro-life pin, you may subjected to action by state law enforcement or your personal information might be sent to a law enforcement analysis center,” said Ed Martin, President of Missourians United for Life. “This is a clear violation of Missourians civil rights. The only intent of such a report by Nixon’s Administration is to harass and intimidate the governor’s perceived political enemies and chill speech and open debate by those who disagree with Jay Nixon on public policy.” State Rep. Shane Schoeller of Willard added his criticism to the furore, stating, “I don’t want to evolve into a society where people are watched just because they’re out participating in some freedom of speech activity.” The fact that the bulk of the report, which equates pro-life groups, political activists and people knowledgeable about the Constitution with domestic terrorists like Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph, will not be redacted, proves that the battle is not over. Outrage over the wholesale defamation of some of the most patriotic and informed groups of American citizens and attempts to educate police that they should be treated as an “enemy” should not subside just because the state has issued a meek apology to Paul, Barr and Baldwin alone. The entire report needs to be repudiated in order to create a precedent that educating police with this kind of garbage is an insult to the very oath that they swore by in the first place.
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« Reply #136 on: March 24, 2009, 09:30:25 AM » |
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The hell with fake "apologies," whoever authorized that report needs to be fired, and the report itself needs to be officially and openly voided.
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The hell with fake "apologies," whoever authorized that report needs to be fired, and the report itself needs to be officially and openly voided.
Amen, Geo. The article is not going to be rescinded, only Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Chuck Baldwin's names removed from an updated report, because the state doesn't want to get sued. Otherwise it will remain the same. This is an outrage to we the people at the highest level, and continues to demonize someone with a Campaign for Liberty sticker as a terrorist.
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Yeah, I love the Constitution of the United States , The Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights 1689 (Britain) and I have guns am pro-guns and general anti-abortion (but I believe it should be up to the person if they want to have one). I have political stickers on my car and Prisonplanet stickers, so what am I on the FBI most wanted yet or what?
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Pro-Lifers and Christians are still on the list.
It seems anyone anti-NWO is now a threat, they've claimed we're crazy for so long, now there's this kinda stuff.
Soon, we'll all get hunted down, freakin' Nazis!
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Pro-Lifers and Christians are still on the list.
It seems anyone anti-NWO is now a threat, they've claimed we're crazy for so long, now there's this kinda stuff.
Soon, we'll all get hunted down, freakin' Nazis!
Yeah this was not a "retraction" or "apology" in any sense. All they did was give a backhanded apology to the politicians they named, acknowledged the way that doing so opens them up to legal action, and have kept all of the misinformation about individuals based on their policy positions which IMO is more frightening than associating supporters of a specific candidate. I could always hide my support for a specific candidate and avoid the consequences, but not being able to hold a position on an issue without being branded a terrorist by law enforcement is even more eggregious.
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« Reply #141 on: March 26, 2009, 07:55:02 PM » |
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This is an OP!
It creates fear in the patriot movement, wastes peoples time and energy, and creates a tonne of noise in patriot media.
I can't believe anyone wastes more than a few minutes on this diversion.
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« Reply #142 on: March 26, 2009, 09:13:58 PM » |
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This is an OP!
It creates fear in the patriot movement, wastes peoples time and energy, and creates a tonne of noise in patriot media.
I can't believe anyone wastes more than a few minutes on this diversion.
i was gonna say something along the same lines. it occurs to me that this is almost certainly intentional to have released this report. they want to start defining who we are to everyone who doesn't know, classify us, and put it out there that we have some kinda terroristic agenda.. so when they do the next false flag attack and blame it on "homegrown terrorists".. people will recall hearing terrorism being associated with this group.. predictive programming for sure. this is entirely intentional and makes me think blackjack hit the nail right on the head.
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Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. - 1 John 2:15
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« Reply #143 on: March 27, 2009, 11:30:02 AM » |
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Missouri Scraps MIAC Report - by Chuck Baldwinhttp://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com:80/c2009/cbarchive_20090327.htmlMarch 27, 2009
Well, there is still hope for liberty after all! After multiple thousands of phone calls, emails, faxes, and other communications from outraged citizens, the State of Missouri has rescinded its controversial "militia" report. This proves the point I made in this column recently that the most effective way to fight an ever-encroaching federal leviathan is to focus on our individual states.
Let me review the events of the last few weeks so as to help readers familiarize themselves with this historic--and I do mean historic--episode.
On February 20, 2009, the State of Missouri, via its Department of Public Safety, issued what was called "MIAC Strategic Report: The Modern Militia Movement." In this report, people who supported Presidential candidates Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and yours truly were referenced as being connected to potentially dangerous "militia members." But the inference did not stop there. People of conservative ideology were also identified in the State Police report as being potentially dangerous. People who held political opinions opposing abortion, illegal immigration, the New World Order, the North American Union, the Income Tax, the U.N., etc., were profiled in the MIAC report.
Interestingly enough, no left-leaning political ideologies were identified. No Islamic extremists. No environmental extremists. Only people holding "conservative" or "right-wing" philosophies were identified in the MIAC report.
The MIAC report was categorized as "Unclassified/Law Enforcement Sensitive," meaning the report was intended for law enforcement personnel only. Fortunately, an unidentified (for obvious reasons) Missouri law enforcement officer, who was extremely disturbed by this report, sent a copy to nationally syndicated radio talk show host Alex Jones. Of course, Jones immediately "blew the whistle" on the story. This was on March 11.
On March 14, the Columbia (Missouri) Daily Tribune ran a story on the subject, and on March 17, I wrote my first column about it. From that point, the story went viral.
Internet sites, radio talk show hosts, and bloggers all over America picked up the story, and thousands of outraged citizens began bombarding the appropriate officials in Missouri with protests. Even Fox News Channel talk show host Glenn Beck ran a feature on the story on Friday, March 20, and again on Monday, March 23. The Constitution Party issued a "Travel Advisory" for the State of Missouri, warning tourists and residents about the possibility of being profiled by State Police for such things as having bumper stickers with political statements on their vehicles, etc. All of this commotion was not lost on several Missouri State legislators and executive officers, either.
Missouri Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder called on Governor Jay Nixon (who had previously stood by and defended the MIAC report) to place Department of Public Safety Director John Britt on administrative leave pending an investigation into the report. In addition, several Missouri State legislators said they would introduce an amendment to the Department of Public Safety's budget barring the agency from using "state or federal funds for political profiling."
On March 23, DPS Director John Britt sent an apology letter to Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and me stating, "I have ordered that the offending report be edited so as to excise all reference to Ron Paul, Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin and to any third-party political organizations."
While Ron, Bob, and I appreciated the apology and retraction from Mr. Britt, the overriding offense of the report still lingered: namely, the report, with a very broad brush, linked people holding conservative political opinions to dangerous and violence-prone "militias," which Missouri law enforcement personnel were instructed to be on guard against. Therefore, public outcry against the MIAC report continued, Mr. Britt's apology notwithstanding.
Then, on Wednesday, March 25, the head of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, Col. James F. Keathley, ordered the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) to "permanently cease distribution" of this abysmal report. Keathley said that neither he nor Britt had read the report before it was distributed.
Keathley also noted that the report was filled with numerous spelling and grammatical errors and did not cite any sources for its broad statements about "right-wing" militias. He further said that his department would now review how the MIAC distributes intelligence reports to police officers. He said the process "needs improvement."
Dear readers, please take a bow! Because of tens of thousands of patriotic, freedom-loving Americans--including thousands of courageous Missourians--the long arm of totalitarianism was shortened just a bit.
This sordid story is truly an embarrassment to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the State of Missouri. Governor Nixon, especially, is left with egg on his face for foolishly and stupidly standing behind the report, when he had either never read it, or, if he had, was just as guilty of political profiling as the ones who wrote the report.
Why DHS, you ask? Because the MIAC report is similar to several other reports currently circulating around various State police agencies courtesy of DHS-sponsored "Fusion Centers." There is another side of this story that is even more sinister, however.
If we can continue to probe the details of the MIAC report, I am absolutely convinced we will find that this report actually originates with Morris Dees and his ultra-liberal Southern Poverty Law Center. And if my hunch (a very educated hunch, I might add) is correct, it means that the DHS and various State police agencies around the country are allowing a left-wing special interest group to use them to harass, intimidate, and profile people with conservative political opinions.
I would further proffer that those of us who are outraged by this event should not stop with the MIAC report being removed. While this is very good news, the fear and intimidation associated with those referenced in this report has already taken place. Are people opposed to abortion, illegal immigration, the Income Tax, the U.N., etc., now afraid to express their opinions publicly (especially in Missouri)? If so, this seems to me to be the basis for legal action, based on the abridgment of the First Amendment freedom of speech by a State (and perhaps federal) law enforcement agency.
There is yet another chilling question that must be answered: by saying Missouri State Police will "review" how MIAC distributes intelligence reports to police officers, does Col. Keathley mean that the State of Missouri's law enforcement agencies will continue to promote similar reports, but simply make them "Classified"? In other words, will they (and other State police agencies around the country) simply employ greater secrecy when issuing such reports, but do nothing to change the content of future reports? Hopefully not, but we shall see.
With that said, here are the lessons all of us need to take to heart:
*Every police officer, deputy sheriff, and law enforcement officer in America who believes in constitutional government, individual liberty, and the Bill of Rights needs to be alert for any report that smacks of the MIAC report, and be willing to quickly "blow the whistle" on any such report they see.
*Lovers of freedom should be much encouraged to see what can happen when they are willing to stand up to their State governing officials as they see abridgements to their liberties taking place. I say again, the best way to fight these mushrooming despotic tendencies of government we seem to see everywhere is to focus on our State governments. Do you now see why I say that? Even if DHS was behind the MIAC report, it was the State of Missouri that had to implement it; and it was the State of Missouri that (under pressure) killed it. SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CITIZENS SPEAK UP WHEN THEIR GOVT IS DEAD WRONG? YOU BET WE HAVE POWER, IF ONLY WE ARE VIGILIANT! GREAT JOB, FOLKS!
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« Reply #146 on: April 02, 2009, 02:47:29 AM » |
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Send them all a copy of Obama Deceptionnnnn
I hope to get mine any day nowwwww yahhhh!!!!
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