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« on: March 10, 2009, 09:48:09 PM »

Navy plans uranium, phosophorous, sonar, microwave weapons March 11 in NW
author: notwantingdeformed grandchildren

The US Navy's incomplete environmental impact statement and a US Senate aid said the bombing would begin March 11 over Washington, Oregon, Idaho, California and south of the Baja Peninsula, Nevada, out to sea at least 200 nautical miles, using high-altitude releases of "depleted" uranium weapons, white and red and yellow phosophorous weapons, radon and microwave weapons for weather disruption, etc., and underwater sonar and explosives with various poisons, and for practice of terrorist attacks (false flags?) and martial law. Public input is to end March 11, yet only the Navy is taking responses and not filing them or holding anyone accountable or even saying who to contact. Hold Congress, President, military, etc. accountable.
Stop NW and west coast and and water and people from being target March 11

Please read and then act upon US military plans to "test" weapons, including uranium, phosophorous, microwave, sonar, and other weapons of mass destruction which continue killing for tens of thousands of years, over Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, and Nevada, and west of the coast 200 nautical miles. One Senate aid said the public input period ends March 11, when the bombing, etc. will begin. The Navy's incomplete Dec. 2008 environmental impact statement indicated uranium explosives would be released at high altitudes, harming all life on the planet, and spreading the poisons farther than ocean currents and migrating fish/whales/seals/boats/submarines would have otherwise. Weapons include "deleted" uranium, red and white and yellow phosophorous, radon and microwave, sonar, etc. The Navy, Air Force, etc. are not disclosing the tons and locations and dispersal of what kinds of weapons and toxins.

Following are partial lists of explosives (page D-8) and sonars (page D-6) to be used.
The NEWs (net explosive weight) for these sources are as follows:
• EER Source—5 pounds
• Demolition charge—10 pounds in Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD), 100 pounds in a
sinking exercise (SINKEX)
• MK-48—851 pounds
• Maverick—78.5 pounds
• Harpoon—448 pounds
• HARM—41.6 pounds
• HELLFIRE—16.4 pounds
• SLAM—164.25 pounds
• MK-82—238 pounds
• GBU-10—945 pounds
• GBU-12—238 pounds
• GBU-16—445 pounds
• 5-inch rounds—9.54 pounds
• 76 mm rounds—1.6 pounds
Table D-2. Active Sonars Employed in NWTRC
Sonar Description Frequency Class Exposures Reported Units per Hour
MK-48 Torpedo sonar High-frequency Per torpedo One torpedo run
AN/SQS-53C Surface ship sonar Mid-frequency Per hour 120 sonar pings
AN/SQS-56 Surface ship sonar Mid-frequency Per hour 120 sonar pings
AN/SSQ-62 Sonobuoy sonar Mid-frequency Per sonobuoy 8 sonobuoys
AN/AQS-22 Helicopter-dipping
sonar Mid-frequency Per dip 2 dips
AN/BQS-15 Submarine sonar High-frequency Not modeled Not modeled

 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/3/134815/0385?new=true
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2009/02/386774.shtml
 http://www.californiaskywatch.com/documents/htmldocs/pp_usn_dod_eis.htm
 http://www.newswithviews.com/Peterson/rosalind114.htm
 http://www.newportnewstimes.com/articles/2009/02/13/news/news01.prt
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2009, 09:56:27 PM »

doesn't matter where you are
check out the jetstream satellite photos on any given day
this isn't a "West Coast problem..."
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2009, 09:59:48 PM »

The US Navy's incomplete environmental impact statement and a US Senate aid said the bombing would begin March 11 over Washington, Oregon, Idaho, California and south of the Baja Peninsula, Nevada, out to sea at least 200 nautical miles, using high-altitude releases of "depleted" uranium weapons, white and red and yellow phosophorous weapons, radon and microwave weapons for weather disruption, etc., and underwater sonar and explosives with various poisons, and for practice of terrorist attacks (false flags?) and martial law.
Kill off/poison seafood supply? You know, just in case anyone was thinking they might be able to get a meal from the sea...
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 10:21:10 PM »

I just wrote to my State Representative about this. I had no idea this was going to happen and it makes me very angry. I live in the State of Washington. I cannot believe this begins tomorrow.  How DARE they do this to the American people. And do this to our own citizens of this country.  Unbelievable!!
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 10:23:29 PM »

Unbelievable!!
yeah, unbelievable. But I have a feeling we'd better start believing it.

I'd like to know how this coincides with migrations - seems kinda timely.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2009, 10:32:11 PM »

Around 20 countries are thought to have DU weapon systems in their arsenals. These include: UK, US, France, Russia, Belarus, Greece, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Oman, Egypt, Kuwait, Pakistan, Thailand, China, India, Belarus and Taiwan.

Many of them were sold DU ammunition by the US while others, including France, Russia, Pakistan, China and India developed it independently.

Many tanks with 105 mm guns (M60 series MBT and their local variants) and 120 mm guns (M1A1, M1A2, Challenger, Leclerc, Leopard 2, etc.) can fire DU rounds, however, it is difficult to prove the presence of DU ammunition in national inventories. Russia, Pakistan and China also use a 125mm round.

With the exception of the US Bradley Fighting Vehicle, Phalanx CWIS shipboard defence system (that now uses a tungsten round) and the now banned ADAM M692 anti-personnel landmine; the vast majority of DU munitions fall into the 120 or 105mm tank and 30mm aircraft ammunition category. The following data is far from complete.

Bahrain
Belarus
China
Egypt
France
Greece
India
Israel
Iraq
Jordan
Kuwait
Oman
Pakistan
Russian Federation
Saudi Arabia
Taiwan
Thailand
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

Bahrain
Current inventory unknown.


Belarus
Current inventory unknown.


China
China, following Russia and Pakistan's examples has manufactured and deployed a 125mm DU penetrator for use in its tanks. Three 105mm variants are also reported.

Chinese Type-86 105mm DU
Chinese Type-93 105mm DU
Chinese Type-95 105mm DU

Source: Janes.


Egypt
Current inventory unknown.


France
Sicn (100% owned by COGEMA) machined 60,000 penetrators for the 120 mm munition APFSDS-T OFL 120 F2, used by the Leclerc tank. The remainder of the munition was made by Giat Industries of Salbris. Both of these companies were also involved in the manufacture of the 105mm ammunition used in the F1 cannon of the AMX-30 tank.

Source: Mary Byrd Davis "Nuclear France: materials and sites"
http://www.francenuc.org/en_sites/rhone_ann_e.htm

(France)
OFL 105 F2 105mm APFSDS (for AMX-30B2 tank)
OFL 120 F2 120mm APFSDS (for Leclerc tank)


Greece
Greece purchased 504 Area Denial Antipersonnel Mine (ADAM) artillery shells (ADAM M692 worth $2.6 million) from the U.S. prior to 1992, when a moratorium on the export of antipersonnel mines was put into effect. Each ADAM 155 mm projectile contains 36 antipersonnel mines, and each mine contains DU as a propellant. These were to be destroyed with the rest of Greece's landmine stocks by March 2008, as of March 2007 no stocks had been destroyed. Greece informed landmine monitor that they were having technical problems as the ADAM mines had to be frozen before they can be destroyed.
Source: Human Rights Watch
http://hrw.org/reports/2000/uslm/USALM007-05.htm
Landmine Monitor
http://www.icbl.org/lm/2007/greece.html

Greece also uses M60A1 and M60A3 tanks and had been offered thousands of tank shells by the US as a gift but subsequently turned them down. In January 2001 Greece decided to remove 20mm DU Phalanx ammunition from its inventory following health worries.

Source: Janes


India
A declassified UK MoD paper on DU (see bottom of article) suggests that India was developing DU weapons in the early 90s. It is unclear whether they have been brought into service, although pressure from Pakistan's use of DU may have triggered an arms race.
Source: See PDF at bottom of page.

Israel
Palestinians have for a long time suspected that Israel had been using ammunition containing depleted uranium in residential areas in Gaza and the West Bank. Israel denies the charges but consistently refuses to reveal the type of ammunitions used in bombing Palestinian buildings. Israel has tanks capable of firing DU rounds, and has received exports of US
made DU ammunition.

Source: Henk van der Keur, Laka Foundation, Where and how much depleted uranium has been fired?
http://www.laka.org/info/publicaties/vu/where-how-much-01/main.html


Iraq
Following the 2003 invasion, the new Iraqi National Army is likely to be armed by US companies. More research is needed on whether they are being equipped with DU munitions.


Jordan
The Jordanians use both the UK Challenger and US M60A1/M60A3 tanks in their Royal Armed Forces. They are in the process of upgrading all of these vehicles

Source: Janes.


Kuwait
Kuwait was offered 'major non-NATO ally' status by the US in 2004. Countries holding MNNA designations are also authorised to use US Foreign Assistance funds to purchase depleted uranium penetrating components, such as the 105mm M833 anti-tank shell.

Kuwait is thought to have bought 11,336 rounds of 120mm ammunition from US manufacturer Alliant Tech Systems.

Source: Janes 2004


Oman
Oman uses US-designed M60 tanks and it is suspected that they have DU armaments supplied by the US. Oman also has UK-designed Challenger tanks but have been unable to purchase UK-made CHARM ammunition for them. It is suspected that purchase was denied for strategic reasons.

Oman has accordingly found itself having to make do with obsolete medium-pressure L23 KE projectiles, which are more than 20 years old in design and have tungsten nickel copper penetrators.

Source: Janes
UK ponders interim ammunition for Challenger 2 as re-arming schedule slips, Oct 2005.


Pakistan
Pakistan has developed an indigenous DU round, the 'Niaza' 125mm DU round is in use with the Al-Khalid tank. the tank was a joint project between China and Pakistan. Pakistan also uses a 125mm APFSDS depleted uranium (DU) round with its T-80UD tanks. The Pakistani Army also possesses 105mm DU tank ammunition.

Source: Defence News, 9 May 2001 Pakistan Joins DU Producer Nations
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr010509_1_n.shtml


Russian Federation
General Export for Defence manufacture 125mm 3BM32 tank ammunition, containing a DU penetrator. They have also marketed a shaped charge high explosive tank round encased in a DU liner for 'enhanced killing power'.

Source: Dan Fahey "Science or Science Fiction? Facts, Myths and Propaganda In the Debate Over Depleted Uranium Weapons"
http://www.antenna.nl/wise/uranium/pdf/dumyths.pdf

(Russia)
3UBM-13 115mm APFSDS (for T-62 tank)
3BM32 125mm APFSDS (for T-72 tank)
3BK21M 125mm HEAT-FS (for T-72 tank)

Further reading on Russian penetrators: http://www.russianarmor.info/Tanks/ARM/apfsds/ammo.html

Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia is though to have bought DU munitions from both the US and UK for use in its tank fleet.


Taiwan
Taiwan bought 1000 M774 105mm DU penetrators from the US in the early 90s. It's current DU inventory is unknown.

Source: Janes Defence.


Thailand
Thailand bought 150,000 rounds of 30mm ammunition made by US arms company Alliant Tech Systems.


Turkey
Turkey bought 22,920 120 mm M833 DU penetrators from the US in the early 90s, it is also thought to still have ADAM landmines in its inventory. The current overall status of its DU inventory is unknown.


United Kingdom
The development of the 120mm ‘CHARM 1’ and ‘CHARM 3’ tank ammunition together cost £375m. CHARM 3 tank ammunition is currently in use by the UK’s armed forces, but only in active warfare. The UK MoD claim that tungsten rounds are used for training purposes.

The first generation CHARM 1 weapon system cost £213m while CHARM 3 cost £161.5m. Both anti-tank systems were developed under commercial contracts at the following locations: Royal Ordance facilities at Birtley and Featherstone, AWE Aldermaston; the former AWE Cardiff, and tested at the MOD ranges at Eskmeals (Cumbria) and Kirkcudbright (Dundrennan, Dumfries & Galloway).

The UK also used 20mm shells as part of the US-built Phalanx Close-In-Weapon-System (or CWIS) until the manufacturer Raytheon stopped producing them after the US Navy cancelled its contract with them after it concluded that tungsten performed just as well but without the hazards.


(UK)
L27A1 CHARM 3 120mm APFSDS (for Challenger 2 tank)


United States
The US is currently by far the largest user of DU weapons. Over the past decade they have bought more than 16 million DU shells and bullets from Alliant TechSystems alone.

M829/A1/A2/A3 120mm APFSDS (for Abrams tank),
M774 105mm APFSDS, M833 105mm APFSDS, M900 105mm APFSDS (for M60-series tanks and IAV),
PGU-14/B 30mm API (for A-10)
M919 25mm APFSDS (for Bradley IFV),
25mm used in GAU-12 cannon on AV-8 Harrier aircraft.

Source:
http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw010111_2_n.shtml

http://www.bandepleteduranium.org/en/i/21.html

Israel Looks East for Navy Commander

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/003824.html

i was so pissed i posted it this early today.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2009, 10:39:40 PM »

"The use of DU in munitions is controversial because of numerous unanswered questions about potential long-term health effects. Normal functioning of the kidney, brain, liver, heart, and numerous other systems can be affected by uranium exposure, because in addition to being weakly radioactive, uranium is a toxic metal."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2009, 10:45:19 PM »

Wow this information is not good.  Interesting how the information comes out the night before this is to be conducted.  Not much people can do to stop them, now.

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2009, 10:51:33 PM »

Wow this information is not good.  Interesting how the information comes out the night before this is to be conducted.  Not much people can do to stop them, now.

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Unfreakingbelievable! There was speculation in the "Obama Deception coming out tomorrow?" threads about March 11th being a date they could try something... could this be it?
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2009, 11:00:00 PM »


Give me a f*cking break.  So now we not only have avian flu to worry about, with a possible cyber false flag, with the economy going to hell, with GMO, with chemtrails, with everything else--now we get get "hey we're using you cattle for weapons tests/poisons."  Is some kind of a test or something to see how much crap the American people will take all of a sudden or what?  Anyone engaging in this as far as I am concerned is an enemy combatant to the constitution and bill of rights, this is complete BS.  If there was some way Russia could attack the NWO here without starting WWIII, using neutron ICBM's, I would welcome that instead of allowing these sons of bitches to exist in my country.  I mean I can't even handle this.  DU?  Excuse me, you bring DU here, you permanently damage my DNA and give me cancer or my loved ones?  You need to be killed, immediately, I don't give a sh*t.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2009, 11:07:50 PM »

Am I the only one connecting this to the big "tests" the Navy are doing today (march 11th)?

 Undecided 


There's something in the air.......
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2009, 11:08:51 PM »

Am I the only one connecting this to the big "tests" the Navy are doing today (march 11th)?

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There's something in the air.......

i can feel it
in the air tonight oh loooord
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2009, 11:10:44 PM »

lol.

It's full moon let's run around and act crazy -- we can rob a bank and blame it on the moon!

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Ahh it's the moon making me do it!!!

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2009, 11:12:00 PM »

lol.

It's full moon let's run around and act crazy -- we can rob a bank and blame it on the moon!

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Ahh it's the moon making me do it!!!

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dude if i had a spinny chair id be all spinning and zoom and OH A BAGEL NOMNOMNOMNOM
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2009, 11:14:39 PM »



OMNOMNOMNOM CARS!
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2009, 11:15:21 PM »



OMNOMNOMNOM CARS!

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2009, 11:22:17 PM »

Am I the only one connecting this to the big "tests" the Navy are doing today (march 11th)?

 Undecided 


There's something in the air.......

Just to clarify, my post was originally in the "American Nazi slain by wife/FBI finds nuke dirty bomb parts and depleted uranium" topic.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2009, 11:23:11 PM »

"The term highly migratory species (HMS) has its origins in Article 64 of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). The Convention does not provide an operational definition of the term, but in an annex (UNCLOS Annex 1) lists the species considered highly migratory by parties to the Convention.[2]

The list includes: tuna and tuna-like species (albacore, bluefin, bigeye tuna, skipjack, yellowfin, blackfin, little tunny, southern bluefin and bullet), pomfret, marlin, sailfish, swordfish, saury and ocean going sharks, dolphins and other cetaceans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_migration

http://www.admiraltylawguide.com/conven/unclostable.html
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2009, 11:24:29 PM »

i can feel it
in the air tonight oh loooord

dmx? your in jail wtf?
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2009, 11:28:26 PM »

It's full moon let's run around and act crazy...
Don't forget Friday the 13th. That's when all the glow in the dark fish float up on the beach.
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2009, 11:28:46 PM »

Unfreakingbelievable! There was speculation in the "Obama Deception coming out tomorrow?" threads about March 11th being a date they could try something... could this be it?

Something is definitely in the works...I am reminded of the drills on 9/11 and 7/7 that bothersome.  Sad
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2009, 11:30:33 PM »

Just to clarify, my post was originally in the "American Nazi slain by wife/FBI finds nuke dirty bomb parts and depleted uranium" topic.

yup. thought this was a bit moore appropriate, sorry
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2009, 11:33:56 PM »

Something is definitely in the works...I am reminded of the drills on 9/11 and 7/7 that bothersome.  Sad

That was my first thought... goosebumps abound  Shocked

yup. thought this was a bit moore appropriate, sorry

No prob. At first I thought you simply deleted all the off-topic posts... which I would've understood, considering the 4chanish pandemic across PP  Cry
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No prob. At first I thought you simply deleted all the off-topic posts... which I would've understood, considering the 4chanish pandemic across PP  Cry

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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2009, 11:40:56 PM »

They have killed most everything already. I have gone fishing half a dozen times havent caught anything. They are now going to poison all the shell fish that remain... I was hoping that would not happen. I hope they don't turn on the towns or have some crazy accident. I live here....The chemtrails were doubled up today.
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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2009, 12:39:10 AM »

I checked the Navy Document from their own training material manual; and YES
for anyone who wants documentation, (or would continue to tell me I'm fear mongering)
they will be dropping DU in our skies and ocean and jet stream beginning tomorrow and
pretty much whenever they damn well want.

you gotta love how they can make Depleted Uranium sound virtually harmless.
I mean, that's some serious fictional literary talent

for anyone who doesn't know, DU has a half life of oh, maybe a million years, and it damages all living dna in unspeakable ways.
google DU and iraqi birth defects if you care to have your heartbroken.

Here you go!



http://www.nwtrangecomplexeis.com/Documents.aspx


Table 3.3-4: Hazardous Material Components of Training Materials
Training Application,
Ordnance Element
Hazardous Material
Component
Pyrotechnics
Tracers
Spotting Charges
Barium chromate
Potassium perchlorate
Chlorides
Phosphorus
Titanium compounds
Depleted uranium
Oxidizers Lead oxide
Delay Elements
Barium chromate
Potassium perchlorate
Lead chromate
Propellants Ammonium perchlorate
Fuses Potassium perchlorate
Detonators
Fulminate of mercury
Potassium perchlorate
Primers Lead azide
Close-in weapons systems (CIWS) use 20 mm cannon shells composed of both depleted uranium (DU)
and tungsten. DU is “depleted” in that is has one-third less of the isotopes of U-234 and U-235, making it
nearly 60 percent less radioactive than natural uranium. Each 20mm round weighs 9 ounces (253 grams)
of which 2.5 ounces (70 grams) is depleted uranium. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)
approved the Navy's license application which clearly stated that CIWS DU rounds would be fired at sea
and not recovered. Consultations with the NRC and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
determined that this practice was acceptable because of the absence of environmental risk. The Navy is
currently phasing out use of DU rounds because of the superior flight characteristics of tungsten and its
performance against missile casings. The Navy’s transition to tungsten began in 1989 and most rounds
with depleted uranium have been replaced.
Uranium is a naturally occurring, slightly radioactive heavy metal found in many parts of the world.
Normal uranium concentration in seawater is three parts per billion. According to Hanson (1974),
uranium is soluble in oxygen-rich water, such as those found in the surface of the ocean. However, after
firing, DU rounds and fragments would fall into to the ocean bottom. Where DU rounds remain at the
seawater-bottom interface, the metal alloy would dissolve slowly over many years. Between mixing
through water movement and natural background levels, impacts would not be detectable. Where DU
rounds lodge in bottom sediments, the electro-chemical conditions common in such layers tends to
change uranium to a form that “has a high affinity for organic material.” Although saltwater would
corrode DU rounds, Hanson (1974) indicated that the resulting impacts would not be noticeable from
normal uranium levels in seawater. Whether at the sediment surface or lodged more deeply, exposure of
DU to marine life would be low.
Hanson (1974) indicated that bioaccumulation of uranium up through the food chain did not appear to
occur. A recent report investigated the presence of depleted uranium in marine waters off the southern
coast of England in an area used for test firing of DU rounds (Toque 2006). Approximately 68,340
pounds (31 metric tonnes) of DU was fired off the southern coast of England between 1982 and 2003.
NORTHWEST TRAINING RANGE COMPLEX DRAFT EIS/OEIS DECEMBER 2008
HAZARDOUS MATERIALS 3.3-10
Sampling was done of intertidal and ocean bottom sediments, as well as seaweed, mussels, and locallycaught
lobster and scallops. Results did not indicate the presence of depleted uranium.
Fate of Hazardous Materials
Three things generally happen to materials that come to rest on the ocean floor: 1) they lodge in sediments
where there is little or no oxygen (below four inches [10 cm]); 2) they remain on the ocean floor and
begin to react with seawater; or 3) they remain on the ocean floor and become encrusted by marine
organisms. Rates of deterioration depend on the material and conditions in the immediate marine and
benthic environment. Buried deep in ocean sediments, materials tend to decompose at much lower rates
than when exposed to seawater (Ankley 1996). With the exception of torpedo guide wires and sonobuoy
parts, sediment burial appears to be the fate of most ordnance used in marine warfare (CFMETR 2005).
Metals. When exposed to seawater, metals begin to corrode. This process creates a layer of corroded
material around the object. This removes the material from direct exposure to the corrosiveness of
seawater, a process that further slows movement of the metals into the adjacent sediments and water
column. This is particularly true of aluminum. In a similar fashion, as materials become covered by
marine creatures, the direct exposure of the material to seawater decreases and the rate of corrosion
decreases. Dispersal of these materials in the water column is controlled by physical mixing and
diffusion, both of which tend to vary with time and location. A recent study of similar Canadian military
activities in the Strait of Georgia found few chemical or biological impacts as a result of debris released
during activities (CFMETR 2005).
Explosives. TNT degrades to dinitrotoluene (DNT) and subsequent degradation products from exposure
to sunlight (photolysis) or bacteria (biodegradation). RDX is also subject to photolysis and biodegradation
once exposed to the environment. When exposed on the ocean floor, RDX breaks down within a few
hours (DoN 2001). Military-grade explosives have low water solubility, meaning that they do not readily
dissolve in water and are, therefore, relatively immobile in water (Table 3.3-5). The degradation and
dissolution of these materials may be further slowed by the physical structure and composition of blended
explosives, which contain multiple chemical compounds and binding agents. Because of these factors,
explosives in the marine environment appear to pose little risk to the environment.
Based on the preceding discussion and the location of military activities under the various alternatives, the
following habitats may be impacted by hazardous materials: 1) open ocean habitat – surface and
subsurface (pelagic) areas; 2) open ocean habitat – bottom dwelling (benthic) communities; and 3)
nearshore habitat, including bottom-dwelling algaes (e.g., kelp forests) and seagrass beds Specific
impacts to specific resources are detailed in other sections: geology and soils – Section 3.1; water
resources – Section 3.4; and marine invertebrates and plants
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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2009, 09:55:48 AM »

Anti-Illuminati--I agree with you. This is so sick!! And here I sit at my computer with everyone in the State of Washington at risk as well as everyone else across the USA.  I can't believe the audacity of these people to do this!! It is SICK. It makes Hitler look like a child.  To think our own Navy would put their own people at risk.

deconstructmyhouse--thanks for the info! Amazing!!!!
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« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2009, 11:14:32 AM »

This information needs to be spread viral. Email everyone you know about this, in particular, friends, family, and associates that live in the west coast.

I sent this to people I know in the west coast, and they are FREAKING OUT. (Especially the poor folks in the immediate range of the testing.)

Also, the east blowing winds will send this to an immense radius.
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« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2009, 12:11:53 PM »

I checked the Navy Document from their own training material manual; and YES
for anyone who wants documentation, (or would continue to tell me I'm fear mongering)
they will be dropping DU in our skies and ocean and jet stream beginning tomorrow and
pretty much whenever they damn well want.
If this is fear mongering; thanks for fear mongering.
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« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2009, 12:13:44 PM »

HFS !! Do we have anything good to look forward to ??
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« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2009, 12:18:06 PM »

We'll see how this turns out....
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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2009, 02:12:46 PM »

We'll see how this turns out....
Yeah, bump.
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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2009, 05:30:53 PM »

What are we supposed to "see?"  Blue florescent raindrops coming down?  A green sky? 

I wrote to my Representative and have heard---Ta-da!!  NOTHING!  Of course!!   Roll Eyes

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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2009, 06:25:58 PM »

What are we supposed to "see?"  Blue florescent raindrops coming down?  A green sky? 
I wrote to my Representative and have heard---Ta-da!!  NOTHING!  Of course!!   Roll Eyes

"Every other commenter expressed similar dismay at the lack of notice. One man, a representative of the whiting fishery, had driven all the way from Tillamook to the Hatfield Marine Science Center, in South Beach, (approx. 70 miles and a two-hour drive) to attend; he said that he had just found out about the hearing that afternoon. Terry Thompson, Lincoln County Commissioner and commercial fisherman, also stated he had just found out about the EIS/OEIS and felt that notice had been inadequate and there was insufficient time to review and submit written comments on the EIS/OEIS.

Mr. Thompson described how he’d been on fishing boat that had lost five people when a never-identified submarine had become fouled in their nets.

The sub was fine, five fishermen were killed. A researcher from NOAA made similar comments regarding inadequate notice and insufficient time to review the EIS/OEIS. The Executive Summary of the EIS/OEIS states that the Navy is working with the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), but it seems the Navy could not be bothered to contact an internationally-known marine mammals researcher, representatives of local fisheries, or local government representatives (who also happen to be directly involved in the fishing industry).

Coastal residents, businesspeople, research scientists and fishermen on the coast south of Newport are being even more thoroughly ignored: the Navy has no other meetings in Oregon scheduled."

http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/02/03/a-blank-check-over-the-pacific-northwest-coast/

Looks like it was designed to be unstoppable, but the link below said HEARINGS will be extended until the 11th.

"Meanwhile, the proposal's public-comment period has been extended twice — now until Wednesday — because residents and lawmakers have complained there hasn't been enough time to wade through the document's 1,000-plus pages.

Oregon lawmakers sent a letter to the Navy last month asking for the extension, in part because their constituents had concerns about impacts on coastal fisheries, tourism and marine mammals."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008827019_navy08m.html

Still looking for more info.
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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2009, 06:40:00 PM »

Northwest Training Range Complex Enviromental Impact Statement

http://www.nwtrangecomplexeis.com/
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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2009, 07:39:03 PM »

  no way... maybe im rationalizing because this is just too scary too be true.. would the navy seriously bomb the NW with DU?? Isnt using DU a war crime??!!
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2009, 08:45:46 PM »

Quote
Close-in weapons systems (CIWS) use 20 mm cannon shells composed of both depleted uranium (DU)
and tungsten. DU is “depleted” in that is has one-third less of the isotopes of U-234 and U-235, making it
nearly 60 percent less radioactive than natural uranium. Each 20mm round weighs 9 ounces (253 grams)
of which 2.5 ounces (70 grams) is depleted uranium. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)
approved the Navy's license application which clearly stated that CIWS DU rounds would be fired at sea
and not recovered.

This is quoted from the Navy's own current website, linked in the op

Not only are they going to continue to do it; albeit in a "scaledown" mode,
they HAVE been doing it for sometime.
It seems our sea floor is littered with rusting cannon shells full of DU

But it's OKAY because it's ONLY 60 percent less radio active and only have a half live of like half a million year or something

Can Alex do a main page story on this?
Please?
We're "dying" to get this info out

I live on a bay looking out to sea, and watched the skies all day.. but I don't know what i'm looking for Tongue
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2009, 08:48:43 PM »

http://www.nwtrangecomplexeis.com/Documents.aspx

sorry, the link above was not in the op like i said, but here it is.
check the "hazardous material" link on this document
for all the above info and quotes just so you know this is real
and out of the horse's mouth
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2009, 01:24:35 PM »

Can Alex do a main page story on this?
Please?
We're "dying" to get this info out
I live on a bay looking out to sea, and watched the skies all day.. but I don't know what i'm looking for Tongue
They said hearings were open till yesterday, didn't see anything on when it would start, did you?
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« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2009, 08:08:09 PM »

Did this ever work out?
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