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« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2009, 10:40:34 PM »

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait

Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah

ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao [substitute fascist of the day, I know chuck ain't left]
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
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« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2009, 10:43:50 PM »

Well, as far as I am concerned, most of you can sit on your ass, and accept martial law. I will not. I will fight back when provoked. The last mistake they will make is pointing a gun at me.

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They are going to push us into a fight, but they better re-think it, because we know who they are, and we will hunt them down like the dogs they are.

i really hope alex addresses this on his show very soon, especially in light of david icke's message about nonviolent resistance. it's one thing to exercise the right to own a gun and defend yourself against someone trying to physically hurt you or your family or steal your food. but looking for a gun fight is stupid, and will probably wind up being used to take more rights away from the rest of us. there are smarter ways to fight back that can't be so easily used against us. violence is what they WANT.
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« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2009, 10:45:51 PM »

c'mon, now you are just being silly.

you know this is an important issue for us and deserves our attention.

we are getting slammed from all sides (damn anti_illuminati exposing all of the criminals and their nefarious plans!)

so now we got chuck who all red, white, and blue americans adore broadcasting possibly off the cuff comments (he was really endorsing some martial arts event and was just getting the crowd going).  But then they are picked up by the MSM (ok, kind of low stream rather than main stream) and gets blasted to every possible conservative website on the planet.  This was planned to take off like wildfire, check the internet there are like 500 sites that already have this posted.

So just get more information and see where this is heading. If he does not talk about the fed and calls for some armed insurection...it is 100% COINTELPRO, you better believe it.

all i'm say'n is that chuck norris is a good guy !!!    Norris started the Kick Start Foundation in 1990 under the name Kick Drugs Out of America. His original intention was to help young people resist drug-related peer pressures through martial arts training, though the program has evolved to help children build a general sense of self-worth.
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« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2009, 10:46:14 PM »

Since seeing him on Glen Beck my gut is saying he is not really sincere, he is just playing lip service to sell books.  I could be wrong.  Undecided
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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2009, 10:48:12 PM »

i really hope alex addresses this on his show very soon, especially in light of david icke's message about nonviolent resistance. it's one thing to exercise the right to own a gun and defend yourself against someone trying to physically hurt you or your family or steal your food. but looking for a gun fight is stupid, and will probably wind up being used to take more rights away from the rest of us. there are smarter ways to fight back that can't be so easily used against us. violence is what they WANT.

Then lay down and take your tyranny. I for one will not.
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« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2009, 10:50:24 PM »

Since seeing him on Glen Beck my gut is saying he is not really sincere, he is just playing lip service to sell books.  I could be wrong.  Undecided

well hey ,, he writes some great articels for  WORLD NET DAILY  ... you should check it out.   
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« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2009, 10:50:33 PM »

Chuck Norris suggests Texas secession.

http://cofcc.org/?p=4216
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« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2009, 10:55:23 PM »

Here is the original picture of Chucky. Look closely



This is a joke, he is being used for something far more sinister than the "2nd American Revolution" Go Chuck! Go Foxnews!...no thanks.
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« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2009, 10:57:25 PM »

So let us look at the players starting to emerge...

Glenn Beck

Chuck Norris

Michael Savage

Let's see where this goes.
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« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2009, 10:57:47 PM »

Then lay down and take your tyranny. I for one will not.

you mean like ghandi? i'll take a win like his.
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« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2009, 10:58:12 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs2sXsKZpmk&eurl=http://cofcc.org/?p=4216&feature=player_embedded

In case the Ghandis didn't want to bother reading a conservative site, linking to Alex's interview.
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« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2009, 10:58:23 PM »

Chuck Norris coming out and saying this is strange for sure.  
Agreed, considering his past.  Until he is on Alex or Jason's show and explains himself, we should be skeptical of this "sudden admission".  He may be Walker Texas Ranger and perhaps the GOAT when it comes to hand to hand combat, but the timing seems a bit strange to me.  But hey, least he has cajones to at least speak out about it despite his "position" in the world.
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« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2009, 10:59:26 PM »

you mean like ghandi? i'll take a win like his.

A lot of them were slaughtered like the sheep they are too. Put me down with General Patton. f**k Ghandi.
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« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2009, 11:00:58 PM »

So let us look at the players starting to emerge...

Glenn Beck

Chuck Norris

Michael Savage

Let's see where this goes.

hey, good point SANE,, way to look at the bigger picture.   ,, but i do feel that Chuck Norris is a REAL patriot , and has been for some time,  ,,  unlike Glenn beck who is a total jack asss.  
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« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2009, 11:02:31 PM »

A lot of them were slaughtered like the sheep they are too. Put me down with General Patton. f**k Ghandi.
OK Jon you're a lean? mean internet machine who will fight to the death for tyranny. We will bury you with honors and hail you as a martyr.
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« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2009, 11:03:17 PM »

Here is the original picture of Chucky. Look closely



This is a joke, he is being used for something far more sinister than the "2nd American Revolution" Go Chuck! Go Foxnews!...no thanks.

Holy provocateur Batman! 

That is some pretty impressive connecting of dots.

Here is the synopsis of Invasion USA (This is Project Northwoods before it was declassified to the exact specifics!):

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The film begins by showing a group of Cuban refugees on a boat sailing for the United States. They are at first met by a U.S. Coast Guard boat, with armed personnel. The U.S. Coast Guardsmen kill all the refugees and take several bags of cocaine hidden in the boat. It is revealed that the armed personnel were Communist Latin American guerrillas dressed as U.S. Coast Guardsmen.

The U.S. Coast Guard eventually finds the boat full of the murdered Cubans off the coast of Florida. The FBI and the Miami Police Department arrive at the docks to investigate the murders. The Communist guerrillas eventually land in Florida and exchange the drugs for weaponry from a drug dealer. They are led by Soviet operative Mikhail Rostov (Richard Lynch). Former CIA agent Matt Hunter (Chuck Norris) is asked to come back to the CIA, but he first refuses. However, Rostov demands that Hunter be killed before they can begin their operation, because Hunter is his former nemesis. Rostov and his gang fail to kill Hunter, but destroy his home in the Everglades. Hunter goes to meet his CIA contact, and tells him that he will come back.

Later in the day, hundreds of additional Communist guerrillas invade the beaches of southern Florida. The guerrillas drive away from the beaches on several trucks. The guerrillas begin their assault by destroying suburban homes. Another group of guerrillas (dressed as Miami police officers) attack a community center in South Miami. Meanwhile, the FBI has no idea who is behind the attacks. Hunter and the CIA believe that Rostov is behind the attacks. As terrorist acts continue in Miami, race riots and general chaos develop within the city. By now, the public believes that terrorists are behind the attacks.

Next, the guerrillas attack a shopping mall where people are doing their Christmas shopping. During the attack, Hunter comes into the mall and engages the guerrillas. Hunter tracks down the whole group that attacked the mall. The next day, United States National Guard troops are called up, while martial law and a curfew are declared. The next two days, Hunter foils a plan to bomb a church and attack a group of people waiting outside a store. In the process, Hunter kills Rostov's right hand man Nikko (Alexander Zale). Soon later, Hunter saves a school bus full of children from a bomb that was about to detonate. In order to corner, Roslov, Hunter coordinates a risky plan which involved all US branches.

The U.S. Government builds a command center in Atlanta, Georgia for the troops. At the command center, all 50 state governors and military officials meet how to stop the terror attacks. The FBI arrest Hunter for the killing of the terrorists and is taken to the command center in Atlanta; a plan orchestrated by Hunter. With Rostov wanting Hunter dead, he orders all the guerrillas to invade the command center in Atlanta. The U.S. National Guard surrounds the command center with M60 Patton tanks and several hundreds of troops, using the arrest of Hunter as a trap. At the command center, Hunter comes face-to-face with Rostov and finally kills him. The terror crisis ends when the guerillas on the street surrender to the National Guard.


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Look up the CIA declassified documents.  Julia Childes was a fricking CIA operative.  These people are operatives, they do work for the CIA. I am not saying that Chuck is, just that it is possible that he is setting people up or his handlers are.

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« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2009, 11:05:12 PM »

well, like i said, i hope alex addresses this issue soon. if he wants to jump on the chuck norris, sean hannity bandwagon and advocate armed rebellion against the government, you won't have to worry about hearing from me. if he wants to take the high road with david icke and organize intelligent noncompliance that is nonviolent, then he'll have my respect and support.

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« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2009, 11:07:08 PM »

A lot of them were slaughtered like the sheep they are too. Put me down with General Patton. f**k Ghandi.

Jon, not for nothing, but you have previously said that because we did not support an armed uprising, that you could no longer be a part of this board.  then you just showed back up one day. you have also been caught drinking and psting (drinking and posting can ruin a threadship guys).  So before you go on one of your "you guys are f**king pinko pussy commie cowards" tirades, just let the evidence get gathered so that it can be analyzed.  I guarantee you that Chuck is not knockling on your door within the next 24 hours asking for you to stand up and be counted.  Just give it those 24 hours to see what is what. please.
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« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2009, 11:08:00 PM »

well, like i said, i hope alex addresses this issue soon. if he wants to jump on the chuck norris, sean hannity bandwagon and advocate armed rebellion against the government, you won't have to worry about hearing from me. if he wants to take the high road with david icke and organize intelligent noncompliance that is nonviolent, then he'll have my respect and support.



don't worry ,  im sure ALEX  is going to be talking about this during the show tomorrow.  
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« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2009, 11:11:29 PM »

well, like i said, i hope alex addresses this issue soon. if he wants to jump on the chuck norris, sean hannity bandwagon and advocate armed rebellion against the government, you won't have to worry about hearing from me. if he wants to take the high road with david icke and organize intelligent noncompliance that is nonviolent, then he'll have my respect and support.



Icke is just as much a nutjob as hannity. Green lizard people.... HA. Icke is there to discredit the infowar.

When I am laying dead somewhere beside my rifle, and you are in chains, in a slave labor camp for laying down in the middle of the street like a dumbass, then remember what I told you. I would be there than be where you will be.

I'm all for the infowar. I don't get me wrong. But when they have troops on the streets, then if you don't fight back, then you will be just as much a slave as the rest of the sheeple that didn't.
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« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2009, 11:13:15 PM »

I think there is a minor misunderstanding here.

Jon: You are talking about defensive actions against a rogue government.

Sane and everyone else: You are talking about starting the war against that rogue government.

Am I correct?

Jon said he will defend his family -- key word being defend.
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« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2009, 11:14:00 PM »

Jon, not for nothing, but you have previously said that because we did not support an armed uprising, that you could no longer be a part of this board.  then you just showed back up one day. you have also been caught drinking and psting (drinking and posting can ruin a threadship guys).  So before you go on one of your "you guys are f**king pinko pussy commie cowards" tirades, just let the evidence get gathered so that it can be analyzed.  I guarantee you that Chuck is not knockling on your door within the next 24 hours asking for you to stand up and be counted.  Just give it those 24 hours to see what is what. please.

When I see troops on the streets knocking down doors then that is the time. I hope you know enough about war to know what to do.
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« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2009, 11:14:54 PM »

I think there is a minor misunderstanding here.

Jon: You are talking about defensive actions against a rogue government.

Sane and everyone else: You are talking about starting the war against that rogue government.

Am I correct?

Jon said he will defend his family -- key word being defend.

Correct.
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« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2009, 11:15:56 PM »

And BTW, that reminds me. I'm sick of the assholes on this board putting words in my mouth too.
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« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2009, 11:52:40 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs2sXsKZpmk&eurl=http://cofcc.org/?p=4216&feature=player_embedded

In case the Ghandis didn't want to bother reading a conservative site, linking to Alex's interview.

Here is Chuck's Beck interview he used the same talking points that he used on Alex's phone interview praising Ron Paul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP-WHEx8x7o
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« Reply #65 on: March 10, 2009, 12:13:22 AM »

OK, now we have Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Chuck Norris.  What do they all have in common besides right wing stuff and sudden rebellion talk?  What about xenophobia (hence "homegrown anger").  Well look at what the FBI rabble rouser provocateur has been spreading:

FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBT!

BEIJING, China -- Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves.

The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow!

UPDATE...

Eminent Domain is the power of government to TAKE private property for public use without the consent of the property owner. Under our Constitution, the government can only "take" when providing "just compensation" for what they've taken.

Who decides what constitutes "just compensation?" The government!

Homeowners who felt the government was not paying them enough for property in past "takings" have filed lawsuits. In absolutely every such case, the value placed upon the property by the government was upheld by the courts.

Our federal government has now granted to China, this power to "take"our homes and businesses in the event the US Gov't defaults on its debts. Let's play this out as a worst case scenario...

The US Gov't goes belly-up and China comes in and says, "they owed us $2 Trillion in Treasury Notes and another $2 Trillion in actual cash money which is now worthless. We are taking the entire state of Hawaii and the entire state of California in lieu of this bad debt".

With the stroke of a Chinese chop stick, Hawaii and California -- all the land and buildings in those states -- are now owned by China.

The "taking" would be a "valid public use" because it was "taken" in payment of the public debt!!!

China could then turn around and declare the value of all that land to be worth. . . . . I dunno, ten cents on a dollar?

For your $200,000 house, you get a Chinese check for $20,000!

Needless to say, the property owners would go ballistic and demand "just compensation" for what was taken. Who gets to decide what is "just?" China! Don't think you got a fair price for what they took? No problem, sue China!

You'll lose!

People who live in those states and own their land outright, might be able to negotiate with China to "rent" back their own property, as long as the property owner continued to pay all his taxes; but the land and buildings would belong to China.

This is what our own Government has just done to us and it is the single most vile act of betrayal in the history of human existence!

SECOND UPDATE

In early February, nine U.S. States began the process of re- asserting their Sovereignty pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution; declaring null and void any actions by Congress that violated the Constitution.

The states took action to make certain the feds couldn't give away cities or the states themselves.

This situation is going to get VERY ugly, VERY fast as one sovereign power (the feds) try to literally give away the land of other sovereign powers, (the states). This is the type of thing that starts Civil War.

Our present federal government makes the treachery and betrayal of Benedict Arnold look like child's play!

Read this... China Speaks (pdf)


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Remember that piece of crap disinfo?  Look at the item in bold.  Starting to see a pattern here?

OK, now let us look at the other side of the puzzle.  Let us look at the anti-neo-con movement.  Shit, they even have it on the MSM and the talk about 9/11:

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9/11 Truth Rant Featured In Hit TV Show Rescue Me
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911-truth-rant-featured-in-hit-tv-show-rescue-me.html


The scene is part of a 9/11 conspiracy theme that runs throughout the fifth series, a fact revealed last month by Sunjata’s fellow Rescue Me star, Dennis Leary.

In part, Sunjata’s character Franco states,

“9/11? Inside job. Plain and simple. And all you gotta do is connect the dots. … I am talking about a massive neoconservative government effort, been in the works 20 years. Ever heard of PNAC? Project for a New American Century? According to them, the end goal of their effort is American global domination. Full spectrum dominance, they call it. Now, first question that pops into my mind is: How do you pull that off in this day and age?”

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Now it is important to note that neocons played a big role in the 9/11 coverup, but the main goal of 9/11 was control through debt.  Anyone blaming the neoconss without blaming Rockefeller/Rothschild and the international banking cartel that drove up the debt thorough illegal wars is fooling themselves.

So the stage is being set to separate truthers into xenophobic militants and shallow cry babies yelling about neo-cons. Fits nicely into the Hegelian dialectic. 

How about...

Neocons, conservatives, progressives, liberals, etc. demanding that the federal reserve be exposed for their crimes, thefts, and provoking/funding illegal wars and genocides.
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« Reply #66 on: March 10, 2009, 12:14:56 AM »

OK, now we have Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Chuck Norris.  What do they all have in common besides right wing stuff and sudden rebellion talk?  What about xenophobia (hence "homegrown anger").  Well look at what the FBI rabble rouser provocateur has been spreading:

FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBT!

BEIJING, China -- Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves.

The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow!

UPDATE...

Eminent Domain is the power of government to TAKE private property for public use without the consent of the property owner. Under our Constitution, the government can only "take" when providing "just compensation" for what they've taken.

Who decides what constitutes "just compensation?" The government!

Homeowners who felt the government was not paying them enough for property in past "takings" have filed lawsuits. In absolutely every such case, the value placed upon the property by the government was upheld by the courts.

Our federal government has now granted to China, this power to "take"our homes and businesses in the event the US Gov't defaults on its debts. Let's play this out as a worst case scenario...

The US Gov't goes belly-up and China comes in and says, "they owed us $2 Trillion in Treasury Notes and another $2 Trillion in actual cash money which is now worthless. We are taking the entire state of Hawaii and the entire state of California in lieu of this bad debt".

With the stroke of a Chinese chop stick, Hawaii and California -- all the land and buildings in those states -- are now owned by China.

The "taking" would be a "valid public use" because it was "taken" in payment of the public debt!!!

China could then turn around and declare the value of all that land to be worth. . . . . I dunno, ten cents on a dollar?

For your $200,000 house, you get a Chinese check for $20,000!

Needless to say, the property owners would go ballistic and demand "just compensation" for what was taken. Who gets to decide what is "just?" China! Don't think you got a fair price for what they took? No problem, sue China!

You'll lose!

People who live in those states and own their land outright, might be able to negotiate with China to "rent" back their own property, as long as the property owner continued to pay all his taxes; but the land and buildings would belong to China.

This is what our own Government has just done to us and it is the single most vile act of betrayal in the history of human existence!

SECOND UPDATE

In early February, nine U.S. States began the process of re- asserting their Sovereignty pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution; declaring null and void any actions by Congress that violated the Constitution.

The states took action to make certain the feds couldn't give away cities or the states themselves.

This situation is going to get VERY ugly, VERY fast as one sovereign power (the feds) try to literally give away the land of other sovereign powers, (the states). This is the type of thing that starts Civil War.

Our present federal government makes the treachery and betrayal of Benedict Arnold look like child's play!

Read this... China Speaks (pdf)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Remember that piece of crap disinfo?  Look at the item in bold.  Starting to see a pattern here?

OK, now let us look at the other side of the puzzle.  Let us look at the anti-neo-con movement.  Shit, they even have it on the MSM and the talk about 9/11:

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9/11 Truth Rant Featured In Hit TV Show Rescue Me
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911-truth-rant-featured-in-hit-tv-show-rescue-me.html


The scene is part of a 9/11 conspiracy theme that runs throughout the fifth series, a fact revealed last month by Sunjata’s fellow Rescue Me star, Dennis Leary.

In part, Sunjata’s character Franco states,

“9/11? Inside job. Plain and simple. And all you gotta do is connect the dots. … I am talking about a massive neoconservative government effort, been in the works 20 years. Ever heard of PNAC? Project for a New American Century? According to them, the end goal of their effort is American global domination. Full spectrum dominance, they call it. Now, first question that pops into my mind is: How do you pull that off in this day and age?”

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Now it is important to note that neocons played a big role in the 9/11 coverup, but the main goal of 9/11 was control through debt.  Anyone blaming the neoconss without blaming Rockefeller/Rothschild and the international banking cartel that drove up the debt thorough illegal wars is fooling themselves.

So the stage is being set to separate truthers into xenophobic militants and shallow cry babies yelling about neo-cons. Fits nicely into the Hegelian dialectic. 

How about...

Neocons, conservatives, progressives, liberals, etc. demanding that the federal reserve be exposed for their crimes, thefts, and provoking/funding illegal wars and genocides.

isnt this disinfo sane?HuhHuh
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« Reply #67 on: March 10, 2009, 12:16:24 AM »

You have it backwards -- Cleamyst trolls me because he thinks I'm a fundamentalist Christian who won't accept Jordan Maxwell as my life teacher because I believe in a fairy tale Jesus.

Truthseeker I don't bother -- cept the once or twice I told him to quit his bitching in so many words.

JTS? What?

Too bad you don't get what I'm writing -- that'd be nice if I didn't have to explain it which in the end leads to you saying "R j00 stupid er wut."

so lets gain common ground again... maybe not being so pro-anti?
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« Reply #68 on: March 10, 2009, 12:16:48 AM »

haha lol what the f%ck is going on here Tongue
chuck Norris wants to kick #@&

i must say Sane has a point to don't be to fast, but at the other hand you still need police in a new state and many police member are just the same as us.
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« Reply #69 on: March 10, 2009, 12:18:01 AM »

"How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? We the people have the authority according to America's Declaration of Independence, which states: That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government…”

Definitely worth repeating a thousand times! Count me in.
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« Reply #70 on: March 10, 2009, 12:18:16 AM »

OK, now we have Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Chuck Norris.  What do they all have in common besides right wing stuff and sudden rebellion talk?  What about xenophobia (hence "homegrown anger").  Well look at what the FBI rabble rouser provocateur has been spreading:

FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBT!

BEIJING, China -- Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves.

The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow!

UPDATE...

Eminent Domain is the power of government to TAKE private property for public use without the consent of the property owner. Under our Constitution, the government can only "take" when providing "just compensation" for what they've taken.

Who decides what constitutes "just compensation?" The government!

Homeowners who felt the government was not paying them enough for property in past "takings" have filed lawsuits. In absolutely every such case, the value placed upon the property by the government was upheld by the courts.

Our federal government has now granted to China, this power to "take"our homes and businesses in the event the US Gov't defaults on its debts. Let's play this out as a worst case scenario...

The US Gov't goes belly-up and China comes in and says, "they owed us $2 Trillion in Treasury Notes and another $2 Trillion in actual cash money which is now worthless. We are taking the entire state of Hawaii and the entire state of California in lieu of this bad debt".

With the stroke of a Chinese chop stick, Hawaii and California -- all the land and buildings in those states -- are now owned by China.

The "taking" would be a "valid public use" because it was "taken" in payment of the public debt!!!

China could then turn around and declare the value of all that land to be worth. . . . . I dunno, ten cents on a dollar?

For your $200,000 house, you get a Chinese check for $20,000!

Needless to say, the property owners would go ballistic and demand "just compensation" for what was taken. Who gets to decide what is "just?" China! Don't think you got a fair price for what they took? No problem, sue China!

You'll lose!

People who live in those states and own their land outright, might be able to negotiate with China to "rent" back their own property, as long as the property owner continued to pay all his taxes; but the land and buildings would belong to China.

This is what our own Government has just done to us and it is the single most vile act of betrayal in the history of human existence!

SECOND UPDATE

In early February, nine U.S. States began the process of re- asserting their Sovereignty pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution; declaring null and void any actions by Congress that violated the Constitution.

The states took action to make certain the feds couldn't give away cities or the states themselves.

This situation is going to get VERY ugly, VERY fast as one sovereign power (the feds) try to literally give away the land of other sovereign powers, (the states). This is the type of thing that starts Civil War.

Our present federal government makes the treachery and betrayal of Benedict Arnold look like child's play!

Read this... China Speaks (pdf)


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Remember that piece of crap disinfo?  Look at the item in bold.  Starting to see a pattern here?

OK, now let us look at the other side of the puzzle.  Let us look at the anti-neo-con movement.  Shit, they even have it on the MSM and the talk about 9/11:

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9/11 Truth Rant Featured In Hit TV Show Rescue Me
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911-truth-rant-featured-in-hit-tv-show-rescue-me.html


The scene is part of a 9/11 conspiracy theme that runs throughout the fifth series, a fact revealed last month by Sunjata’s fellow Rescue Me star, Dennis Leary.

In part, Sunjata’s character Franco states,

“9/11? Inside job. Plain and simple. And all you gotta do is connect the dots. … I am talking about a massive neoconservative government effort, been in the works 20 years. Ever heard of PNAC? Project for a New American Century? According to them, the end goal of their effort is American global domination. Full spectrum dominance, they call it. Now, first question that pops into my mind is: How do you pull that off in this day and age?”

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Now it is important to note that neocons played a big role in the 9/11 coverup, but the main goal of 9/11 was control through debt.  Anyone blaming the neoconss without blaming Rockefeller/Rothschild and the international banking cartel that drove up the debt thorough illegal wars is fooling themselves.

So the stage is being set to separate truthers into xenophobic militants and shallow cry babies yelling about neo-cons. Fits nicely into the Hegelian dialectic. 

How about...

Neocons, conservatives, progressives, liberals, etc. demanding that the federal reserve be exposed for their crimes, thefts, and provoking/funding illegal wars and genocides.

OK.. SO HOW DOES CHUCK NORRIS HAVE TO DO WITH THAT???
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« Reply #71 on: March 10, 2009, 12:18:24 AM »

How about...

Neocons, conservatives, progressives, liberals, etc. demanding that the federal reserve be exposed for their crimes, thefts, and provoking/funding illegal wars and genocides.

What do you mean how about? That is discussed every single day by Alex Jones and countless others I am aware of and only dimly aware of.

The message is out there -- no reason they can't have their skewed version of it that focuses on one subgroup that isn't the biggest nastiest creature in the closet -- is there?

Many guilty parties -- and everything can be turned and countered to help the NWO -- it is inescapable.
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« Reply #72 on: March 10, 2009, 12:20:37 AM »

What do you mean how about? That is discussed every single day by Alex Jones and countless others I am aware of and only dimly aware of.

The message is out there -- no reason they can't have their skewed version of it that focuses on one subgroup that isn't the biggest nastiest creature in the closet -- is there?

Many guilty parties -- and everything can be turned and countered to help the NWO -- it is inescapable.

called out for neox ways?

BTW I favor heritage over genisis....
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« Reply #73 on: March 10, 2009, 12:20:47 AM »

so lets gain common ground again... maybe not being so pro-anti?

All I'm saying in regards to you is -- stop with the B-tard speak and playing devil's advocate simply to create an argument to entertain yourself -- people don't quite understand that you are just in it for the laughs and aren't serious.

As for bashing religion -- I don't care only a sucker defends their religion from an internet poster.

Enough B-tard speak already.
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« Reply #74 on: March 10, 2009, 12:21:58 AM »

called out for neox ways?

No idea what you are trying to say.

I don't want to sit here and decode all your riddles just to carry a conversation with you.

Putting out riddles does not give you the air of intelligence -- if that's what you are after -- it just makes it so only a mind-reader knows what the hell you are talking about.
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« Reply #75 on: March 10, 2009, 12:24:58 AM »

All I'm saying in regards to you is -- stop with the B-tard speak and playing devil's advocate simply to create an argument to entertain yourself -- people don't quite understand that you are just in it for the laughs and aren't serious.

As for bashing religion -- I don't care only a sucker defends their religion from an internet poster.

Enough B-tard speak already.

As for bashing religion -- I don't care only a sucker defends their religion from an internet poster.

i agree, all i have seen since the anti atheist thread is the other, you bigot anyone who is not the contrairian bashing you can agree with. i put up that btard bs so idiots cant understand it, but you do so i can elevate above the sham bs. you agree christians are true but dont pull the usual on how they do. your just an advanced btard.
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« Reply #76 on: March 10, 2009, 12:25:39 AM »

No idea what you are trying to say.

I don't want to sit here and decode all your riddles just to carry a conversation with you.

Putting out riddles does not give you the air of intelligence -- if that's what you are after -- it just makes it so only a mind-reader knows what the hell you are talking about.

ok livefreeordie i missed you!  Grin
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« Reply #77 on: March 10, 2009, 12:25:41 AM »

isnt this disinfo sane?HuhHuh

yes that is the point.  look at the stuff being spread around.  you think it is by accident.  we are being divided.  think about ron paul's message and alex jones' message.  think about how difficult it is not to support that message.  now think about chuck's message "run for president of texas" (and not mentioning the fed).  This looks on the surface like a dividing tactic.  I am just showing what has been pushed onto conservative/liberal media and how there are different messages for different groups.  The disinfo message targeted conservatives with the "let's all rebel" idea. 

Just notice the architecture of the matrix of information.

Just look at the damn title:

"Chuck Norris claims thousands of right wing cell groups exist and will rebel"

RIGHT WING

CELL GEOUPS (what the f**k is a cell group, we are conditioned to think of cells as terrorist cells, not patriotic groups of constitutionalists)

THOUSANDS

REBEL

C'mon, that just cancels over 200 million potential followers with the headline.  Again, I suggest waiting for more information, but there does seem to be a pattern emerging.
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« Reply #78 on: March 10, 2009, 12:26:45 AM »

yes that is the point.  look at the stuff being spread around.  you think it is by accident.  we are being divided.  think about ron paul's message and alex jones' message.  think about how difficult it is not to support that message.  now think about chuck's message "run for president of texas" (and not mentioning the fed).  This looks on the surface like a dividing tactic.  I am just showing what has been pushed onto conservative/liberal media and how there are different messages for different groups.  The disinfo message targeted conservatives with the "let's all rebel" idea. 

Just notice the architecture of the matrix of information.

Just look at the damn title:

"Chuck Norris claims thousands of right wing cell groups exist and will rebel"

RIGHT WING

CELL GEOUPS (what the f**k is a cell group, we are conditioned to think of cells as terrorist cells, not patriotic groups of constitutionalists)

THOUSANDS

REBEL

C'mon, that just cancels over 200 million potential followers with the headline.  Again, I suggest waiting for more information, but there does seem to be a pattern emerging.

+ thank you for that undecided post.
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CELL GEOUPS (what the f**k is a cell group, we are conditioned to think of cells as terrorist cells, not patriotic groups of constitutionalists)

A "cell" group is a bunch of small groups that make up a big "organism."

You know that but hey I posted it anyway.

To AMD: Yeah, sure, whatever, lalalala glad you enjoy your hobby of calling people retards. Have fun.

I can even read you goddamn response -- it's such gibberish with all the f**kups of pronouns and grammar.
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