Synopsis: Hot topic!! Jones interviews Dr. Rebecca Carley about recent Baxter Pharmaceutical bird flu “accident” Many medical references in this transcript. Dr. Carley expands this information to programs using Rabies, Lyme, and other pathogens and expands upon current use of soft kill biological weaponry particularly through vaccines.
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AJ: Dr. Rebecca Carley is a degreed medical doctor, a surgeon. Her only child was damaged by vaccines. She began to investigate it. And we just got her on the line. She was pointing out something I wasn’t even aware of. The London Telegraph reporting on a bunch of people dying in Poland from a bird flu vaccine test. And we’re…you guys did pull that up, right? You said you did pull it up. Throw that up on screen for folks so they can see it. There’s a lot to cover in the time we have left. And I also want to go to calls for folks that are holding on this subject. Ah, but Dr. Carley, we’d like to have you back next week for 2 hours if you can do it, to really, to tell all this and go through your knowledge. Now, on one side, bird flu itself can kill people but it’s very hard to catch. The point is they’re mixing it with vaccines and then not even irradiating it. That’s no accident. Just absolutely amazing. And regular flu vaccine inoculations. And thank God some subcontractors tested it and it killed the ferrets. They were testing it just to see if the regular flu vaccine had been irradiated because if the ferret gets sick, they know that it hadn’t been irradiated properly. But said the ferrets died. This is mainstream news. This is deadly bird flu they were trying to mutate. But let’s just go ahead and go to Dr. Rebecca Carley. Tell us what’s happening.
RC: Basically, they’re trying to cause the pandemic. They have already stockpiled at least 250 million doses of the bird flu vaccine. The shelf life of that vaccine has a certain amount of time by which they’ll have to throw it in the garbage. So they have to start the pandemic so that they can give the vaccines, which will then cause the bird flu pandemic. I encourage all of your listeners to go to my website, drcarley dot com. //spells it out// Go to the bottom of my site and you will actually see posted an article entitled “US controls bird flu vaccines over bioweapon fears”. In fact, this is an associated press article that says that our government is reluctant to give bird flu vaccine to some of the rogue nations for fear they will use the vaccine as biological warfare. So when you actually look at what’s out there, folks, it becomes crystal clear. This is genocide. This is population reduction. And it’s happening right now.
AJ: Alright. Let me stop you right there. You just brought a huge piece of the puzzle that I wasn’t even aware of. We googled it. It’s true. I have the AP article about them admitting bird flu vaccine can be used as a bioweapon. Now this company in the US ships it, doesn’t tell the companies they’re subcontracting that make regular flu vaccine that they’re mixing it. By God’s grace, they did a test and it killed the animals. They looked at it and said, “This is H5N1, the deadly stuff that would then become airborne by being mixed with the other flu vaccine.” And here it is. “Homeless People Die After Bird Flu Vaccine Trial In Poland”. The London Telegraph, July 2008. It says, “Three Polish doctors and six nurses are facing criminal prosecution for a number of homeless people died following medical trials of a vaccine to the H5N1 bird flu virus.” This is…and they keep telling you you’re a kook if you don’t want to take vaccines, doctor.
RC: Right. Well, let me also state that this is very intentional because the H5N1 bird flu virus is not actually able to be picked up by humans in a regular scenario. So by putting it with a regular human flu, they’re intentionally causing it to create a hybrid virus. And this is how they’re going to make the bird flu virus be contracted by the people because it’s very virulent. And basically, the scenario that it creates is very disturbing. You actually bleed out into your lungs and suffocate on your own blood.
AJ: Please continue.
RC: OK. And I wanna just make it clear. I encourage the listeners once again to go to my website, drcarley dot com, and read the article I now have posted, “Science of Vaccine Damage”. We have a number of non-pharma funded veterinarian researchers that have documented what I’ve been saying for 12 years that it’s not just the diseases themselves the vaccines cause. When you inject live viruses into the bloodstream, you bypass a critical part of the immune system. And vaccines, in fact, cause all autoimmune diseases, nontraumatic seizures, cancer, and genetic problems in people and in pets. So this is the greatest epidemic the world has ever known. Vaccines use diseases. I’ve developed a protocol to reverse these things. But we have to stop this holocaust on humanity. Not only on humanity, our pets and our food sources.
AJ: Well doctor, I wanted to back you up. All these big veterinary university studies, as you know, have now come out showing thousands of percentile increases in the area where dogs and cats are injected. Everybody I know injects their cats and dogs and they almost die. They have seizures that causes…other medical doctors have told us…autoimmune responses where the brain swells. That’s causing actually most of the autism. The mercury is a side issue. And here they are trying to send out bird flu mutated with regular flu for deadly airborne flu that kills over 60 percent of people that come in contact with it. And then, meanwhile, they’re running billboards and ads everywhere that say, “Vaccines are good. Take more. HPV is killing a lot of the girls that take it. It’s OK. Dying is good. It keeps you safe. Dying keeps you safe.” It’s mass insanity. We’re gonna come back and talk about how this kills you and how you think they’re gonna release it.
AJ: There is so much evidence if this. It’s right out in the open. They give it to homeless people and it kills them. Another company ships it to all these labs, doesn’t tell them what it is. Tells them, “Oh, here’s the mixes.” Mislabels it. Has them mix it with all these different strains of regular flu. They admit that it will mutate inside the growing process and mutate inside the human body. Airborne superflu that kills you. And we just lost Dr. Carley. I just heard her disconnect. So John, we get her back on or is she still there? Oh, the ISDN dropped. OK. Alright, well we’re here. It doesn’t matter. OK, let’s get the guys in there and get reconnected. Doctor, break this down for folks. How it kills you, what’s going on, and the larger picture with all the documentation you’ve got. And she neurotically goes through all, even mainstream documents, mainstream news. And by the grace of God, a subcontractor tested the flu shots…because they’ve had so many people get killed in Europe from them…on ferrets. And it killed ‘em deader than a hammer. So they tested it and freaked out, saying, “What on earth is this?” This is incredible. Dr. Carley. //pause// Yeah, we’re having some phone systems go up and down. Get her back on for me. OK? I don’t think it’s the government doing it. Though they admit they’ve done sabotage on the people. This always happens when “And now, Jesse Ventura.” Happens like once a month. But it’s always “And now Willie Nelson” //static sound effect// “And now, Jesse Ventura.” //static sound effect// “And now we will expose the bird flu plan.” //static sound effect// We’ve got like three back ups in there. So hopefully, that’ll get it fixed. So we will get her back up and on the line. OK Dr. Carlee, did you hear my questions?
RC: Strange things happen when I do shows like this. I just wanna mention a couple of very important things that people have to realize. First of all, there’s been almost a billion dollars, with a “B”, 954 million has been put aside in the stimulus package for further inoculations. And, if people are listening to our corrupt Congress in the district of criminals talking about mandated health insurance, you have to realize that, just like they’re doing in Massachusetts now, they’re gonna tell you what you need to do in terms of your health “coverage”. It’s actually death coverage. And so this is what’s going on. This is a population reduction agenda. One other quick thing I just wanted to mention is that there’s at least nine biowarfare weapons labs in every state at this point. And the way they ship their viruses from lab to lab is by Federal Express. So as they’re trying to tell us that we have all these rogue nations to fear with their biological attacks, in fact the FEDEX truck that’s delivering packages to your house could very well have H5N1 on it as well.
AJ: And doctor, remember the wreck 4 years ago with the FEDEX truck? And then ask, “Why is there weaponized super bird flu on board?” Remember that?
RC: Yes, I do. That’s how I found out about this.
AJ: Alright. Well, as a medical doctor, as a surgeon, as somebody whose been researching this in depth for years, tell us what the bird flu will do if it goes airborne or if people would have take the shots that killed the ferrets. How this kills you. I see different news reports that it kills 60-90 percent of people that come in contact with it.
RC: Well, what people have to realize is that they’ve intentionally weaponized this by going up to Alaska and digging up dead bodies that died…people that died from the 1918 Spanish flu which was not a Spanish flu at all. It was actually caused by inoculations given to soldiers in World War One. And since it was such a killer, these minions from the Department of Army Pathology in Washington went there and dug up those dead bodies and brought those lung tissues back and did the DNA deconstruction on it. And they have combined that with the bird flu in order to make a pathogen, which is going to kill young people. That is the very serious aspect of this. This is not gonna just kill the young and the old, as usually happens with different pathogens. This is gonna specifically target young people in the ages of say 20-60. And this is going to basically cause you to, as I said, bleed out into your own lungs. You’re gonna suffocate on your own blood. And the aerosolization aspect of it is not just with chemtrails and things of that nature. If people in your neighborhood are stupid enough to get injected with this insane vaccine, they’re gonna be coughing and sneezing on you. And so, that’s part of the aerosolization thing. They’re going to be able to make this pandemic happen very quickly once they introduce this into the United Stated population.
AJ: Absolutely. I wanna show the viewers out there the headline. “Flu pandemic could kill one billion people around the world”. This is in the Journal of Nature and a bunch of other publications a few years ago where they’re out there fear mongering, trying to get everybody scared. And then meanwhile, I have the mainstream news…and I see these all the time, you pointed one out. “Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland – London Telegraph” And then I bring this up to listeners or people on the street or talk show hosts make fun of us saying, “No. We can trust bug pharma” when Bayer admittedly shipped out over a million ampoules of factor eight filled with HIV and hepatitis and didn’t even get in trouble for it. And it came out in court they knowingly did it on purpose because it’s about population reduction.
RC: Yes. If anyone puts “Henry Kissinger” and “memo 200” into any search engine, you can read about how he testified in front of Congress that population reduction is a national security issue.
AJ: State Department memorandum 200 and the classified version, written in ’73, declassified in ’92 states that is the overall agenda of the entire new world order is to kill people. Go ahead.
RC: Yes. They have to decrease the population because of the fact that since they’re suppressing all natural energy technologies such as Tesla’s technologies and things of that nature, they only have a certain amount of products that they can allow to be used on the planet by the people. So rather than allow the natural solutions out there, they’re going to just kill off a large percentage of people so that they can continue to make money in whatever endeavors they have available to them.
AJ: And doctor, you’re a medical doctor. And I’ve had all these other medical doctors on about this and they’ve caught them adding hormones to tetanus shots to sterilize women.
RC: Yes. I have documentation of that. Let me just say. I’m writing a book about this. Going to the genocide level. I have a book actually published by NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, entitled “Immunological Evidence of Vaccines” where they actually admit in that book that they are putting the hormone hCG, human chorionic gonadotrophin into tetanus and diphtheria vaccines and giving it to women. That is the hormone produced by women when they become pregnant. So if you inject it into somebody, they become allergic to that antibody. They produce antibodies against it. And then they abort their own children when they become pregnant.
AJ: Let’s be clear. And they call it a soft kill weapon in their documents as you know. Because they could just sterilize the women but that’s not enough. They want the women to keep getting pregnant and have violent miscarriages triggered when the hormone is released in the second trimester because they get as much as a 10 percent death rate with the women. So it’s even better. They get to kill the baby and kill the women. And then they also…it’s come out in the mainstream news…in Thailand, the UN comes in, forcibly injects the women three times with tetanus shots…everybody knows it’s just one…while the baby’s in them. And I’ve seen the interviews with the women on Thailand TV in English. And they say, “And then I feel the baby stop dancing.” In a few days the baby dies. This is the savage murder. And the police, the military…you’re all being injected. Folks, I premiered Endgame almost 2 years ago at the Alamo Drafthouse. And I’d seen this guy on TV. He was the Press Secretary for…and the Scheduler for Governor Perry. And Governor Perry’s in the film. And he shows up. And he says, “Hey, I’m Governor Perry. Work for him.” And he said, “I just want you to know we’re not all bad at the Governor’s office.” And I said, “Why are you here?” And he said, “Well, here’s my card.” I lost it. But the point is…I get piles of these…He said, “I want you to know 12 years ago at Fort Sam Houston, San Antonio…I’m a medic. And they sent us these 8 guys from Fort Bragg. And they injected them. And they all died in 3 days. And then we had to go in in decontamination suits, spray the whole room down with bleach, pull everything out, and decontaminate it.” And I said, “Well, what are you gonna do about that?” And he said, “I don’t know. But I just know you’re telling the truth.” And then we have all the declassified examples where they kill their own troops. The globalists are criminal. Go ahead.
RC: Well I just wanna state that’s the reason that we have this big debate about whether or not they should be allowed to photograph the soldier’s coffins coming back. Because the news media may say, “OK. What did that soldier die from or what did that soldier die from?” And then it would come out that more soldiers are dying from their inoculations than are even dying from gunfire.
AJ: And I’ve seen those numbers. Everything you’re saying I’ve seen documented. And it’s all mainstream. It’s just a piece here, a piece there. “Oh, it’s killing the homeless. Oh, they accidentally put it…” Here’s the key about the manufacture of this vaccine. I specifically looked it up with this particular one. They’re supposed to radiate the flu viruses. So they accidentally mix bird flu in it. Then they don’t radiate it to keep it alive. Another accident, doctor. Right?
RC: Yeah, right. Well first of all, radiation could cause mutation. So radiation does not necessarily kill the viruses. This whole thing is a scam. People have to start asking themselves, “If something is a dangerous pathogen, why am I going to inject it into my body?” If you have somebody cough on you or sneeze on you, at least your immune system can work in a natural fashion, as the Creator gave us, to create antibodies and give you life long immunity. And not to mention the fact of all the other additives that are in vaccines.. I was so glad to hear you mention, Alex, that as far as autism, mercury’s a side issue. Mercury is a toxic poison. It causes Alzheimer’s along with aluminum. But you see, all of these different things…Autism is an autoimmune disease, actually it’s subacute sclerosing panencephalitis. They changed the name to hide the fact it was caused by vaccines. But all of these injections are causing you harm. And the more that you get, the more depressed your immune system is going go be. In my paper, on my website, “Inoculations the true weapons of mass destruction”, I describe exactly what the pathology is in the immune system that causes all of these autoimmune diseases //crosstalk//
AJ: Well, I’m not a medical doctor but you are. And I’ve interviewed many others. And it’s simple. The mucous membrane, the skin, that’s where mostly, that’s where the T- lymphocyte programmer cells for the rest of the white blood cells are. They identify the enemy. They go up and sniff it, kill one, scan its DNA…it’s literally little nanobots God made…eats it, scans it, and then goes out and starts programming the defense. So it’s like sentries. Alright. We got an enemy. We killed one. This is what their uniform looks like. Here’s how you take ‘em down. And then it transmits the info through the lymph nodes to the lymphatic system, total body defense system. Now they’re ready. But instead, when they inject it, it all just bypasses the forces. Doesn’t it?
RC: Yes. Well also secretory IgA which is a very important antibody that’s in the upper respiratory and GI tract is very important in this natural induced mechanism as well. But see, that’s what people have to start asking their white coats. And I encourage everybody like I said. Print out that article “Science of Vaccine Damage” as the veterinarians have proven what the vaccines are doing to the immune system. And bring that to your veterinarian, to your pediatrician, to your elderly parent’s nursing home. You see, this is another very important thing that they’re doing, Alex. They’re actually mandating that all elderly people in nursing homes get the flu vaccine and the pneumococcal vaccine every year. And this is another way they’re taking out the elderly. The Medicare trust fund was stolen long ago. That’s what Ross Perot brought forth when he ran for President.
AJ: And they’ve got to get rid of the old folks. The UN openly says that. So it’s a soft kill weapon to get them out of the way. Now, in the time we’ve got left…I know I said we’d go to calls but this info is so important. In the time we have left, Dr. Carley, you were going into the NATO documents. You even listed the book where they admit they’re doing all of this. And still the public listening…or listeners tell their friends and family. Hopefully they’ll pass around this video. We’re also live at prisonplanet dot tv. People watching, listen, you can’t laugh at us anymore. You can’t say it isn’t happening. The HPV is killing the women that take it. That is admitted. Listen, this isn’t a joke. People quit laughing after their kids die or they die or they get sick. Please, these are eugenicists. Dr. Carley, explain to people what you think was happening with them trying to put the deadly bird flu in with regular vaccines. And how do you think they got caught? Did somebody inside blow the whistle?
RC: Well, obviously somebody inside blew the whistle. You see, the dark forces have their agenda. And then the good guys occasionally win one for the good guys. And this is obviously what’s happened in this situation. As I said, putting the bird flu virus in with the regular flu is actually what’s going to make the mutation happen to create the hybrid that’s going to allow the bird flu to infect a human. And this is self-evident. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that all these viruses mutate. They admit openly that the reason they have to change the flu vaccine every year is because the vaccines are always mutating.
AJ: And by the way, doctor, that’s not your opinion. Up on infowars dot com and prisonplanet dot com we have all the mainstream news articles admitting that they put this bird flu virus in with the regular viruses. And that it was being done…and that it would mutate…and that there’s no way that that is an accident. This is admitted that this was happening. And that the way they told the companies to do it was the exact way to create the mutation.
RC: Exactly. And I wanna just quickly bring it to the next level. I also have another book published by the NATO Life Sciences Division entitled “The Biology of Aggression”. And that’s all about the rabies virus. They are now also putting rabies virus into many human vaccines. There’s many movies out now that actually illustrate this. “Quarantine” is the best because in “Quarantine”, they actually admit that the rabies virus is what’s making these people become ghouls. This is gonna get even worse, folks. And this is being done intentionally.
AJ: That’s right. The media always throws this in our face. Like the government creates a cancer shot cure and the inventor of it is…it’s “I am Legend”…and then 99 percent die but 1 percent turn into these raving lunatics. Take the movie “Serenity” where the government puts this stuff into the atmosphere that kills everybody. But then a small percent turn into these raving maniacs. And you’re right. The Pentagon, Wired Magazine, their head futurist, Mr. Marshall, brags that they’re also creating compounds to make the troops psychopathic killers. Then they give them an amnesiac. They’re already doing this in Afghanistan as a test. And then now mainstream news came out and said, “We’re gonna have everybody take these amnesiacs where we don’t feel bad about who we are anymore.”
RC: Yes. As a matter of fact I was amazed that the mainstream media…I was listening to NPR one day. And they were talking about a study done in Switzerland where they used the blood pressure drug propranolol to reverse posttraumatic stress disorder. People that have been traumatized by something take this blood pressure drug. That’s what people have to realize. Every single drug has a mental side effect. And now they’re actually admitting that the can remove these traumatic memories with propranolol. So as your loved ones are being killed and maimed by the mainstream medical mafia, you can take this blood pressure medication and just say, “Oh, that’s fine. I don’t have a problem with that.”
AJ: Well it literally is like a lobotomy. And they’re saying they wanna put statins in this drug and others in the water. They’re now admitting they’re gonna medicate the water. Doctor, the //crosstalk//
RC: They’re doing it with fluoride. They’re already doing it with fluoride. And they’re also admitting that, as we’re flushing more and more drugs down the toilet and down the sink, these are all being released into the water supplies. Isn’t it amazing, Alex, that nobody seems to be rising up to protest that. What of…as far as the ecology and nature are concerned. Why don’t they have a problem with all these things? We //crosstalk//
AJ: Because they’ve destroyed with drugs admittedly our normal human spirit of just burning, being alive, being intelligent. They’re just drugged out. Oh my gosh. Dr. Carley, stay there. We’re gonna come back and get more into this. Ladies and gentlemen, they were putting live bird flu in with regular flu so it could go airborne.
AJ: I’m gonna get Dr. Blalock on about this next week. I’m gonna get Dr. Carley back on. We’ve got a bunch of medical doctors on so you can hear the same thing from different medical doctors with all the documents, all the articles. We’re gonna do a whole show on FEMA camps next week as well. Just where I go through all the documents, all the videos. We cover a piece here, a piece there as it comes out in the news. We’re gonna be doing some big special reports. We’re gonna put a lot of work into these next week.//product plugs edited// Dr. Carley, in closing, I think we’ve averted major disaster here. Even mainstream Canadian, British, Czechoslovakian news is saying was this…this is in mainstream news. When I first read it, the news was saying, “Was this done on purpose?” Because this company’s also developed a bird flu vaccine but people keep dying in the test. With other companies that are testing theirs, we just covered the London Telegraph on that with the people dying. This is miraculous that this did leak out and got stopped.
RC: Right. But of course it’s not in the US mainstream media. Thank God for shows like yours. It’s bringing it out to the people of America. But I wanna make it very clear. It’s not just the bird flu. This is with all of these biological weapons including Lyme’s disease and West Nile encephalitis. I have a book in front of me entitled Lab 257: The Disturbing Story of the Government’s Secret Plum Island Germ Laboratory by Michael Christopher Carroll where he quotes David Huxoll, who was the Plum Island’s Director in June 2000. And this is what he said, Alex, and I quote, “The plant that will produce biological agents for weapon’s purposes may not look too much different from the plant that produces biological agents for vaccines.” This is all one and the same. Vaccines are biological weapons. Period. That’s what people have to wrap their head around.
AJ: Well, cancer is exploding. Fifty years ago 1 in 33 died of it. Now it’s 1 in 3, about to be 1 in 2. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation…his dad runs Planned Parenthood, the eugenics group, is openly involved in all of this. My film Endgame covers it. Dr. Carley, we’re gonna have you back up in the very, very near future. In fact, let me have my producer call you, or one of the producers call you right now and get you back on. But we will talk to you in the near future. We’re gonna link to your detailed reports at infowars dot com to drcarley dot com. And the key reports you’ve got up there posted like “US controls bird flu vaccines over bioweapon fears” and others and we’ll talk to you next week. Take care.
RC: Thank you so much. God bless you. Keep up the good work.
AJ: Can you do 2 hours sometime next week?
RC: Oh, you bet’cha.
AJ: OK. We’ll set you up for 2 hours so I can actually let you roll and go through all your incredible knowledge. ‘Cause I’ve been going over it and it’s just amazing. Thank you so much.