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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #120 on: September 05, 2007, 08:55:17 AM »
I might warn you though that if you are not really aware of them, they will make you very angry.

I looked up some of the sites regarding these guys. Half say they are luciferian and the other half say they are Anti-Semetic.

I still don't know much about them as to what they did.

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #121 on: September 05, 2007, 03:53:14 PM »
dear harpakhrad11, please don't insult your humour or intelligence. :)
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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #122 on: September 05, 2007, 04:04:22 PM »
dear harpakhrad11, please don't insult your humour or intelligence. :)

Damn you got me!  :D

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #123 on: September 05, 2007, 08:45:59 PM »
Damn you got me!  :D

Sorry Joe but he was right- we gave you ample opp's to prove yourself and show us you were serious.

Cory

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #124 on: September 06, 2007, 04:10:05 AM »
Dear Corsig, OK last chance.

You want us to provide evidence to your anonymous name in a forum? You are a professional Masonic time-waster who spends his whole life behind the curtains (Follow the yellow brick road). You offered no advice to Masonic victims. You are defending extreme evil, you know nothing about the inner organization of criminal Freemasons. You have the audacity to jump onto someone else's comments and now call yourself "we"?....

Now re-read our initial post and see some victim's physical addresses. Just reveal your true self and we will send you lots of hardcore evidence, no problem at all. Please be sensible and focused.  :)

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #125 on: September 06, 2007, 10:15:49 AM »
Ok Joe so I give you my last name then what you sick your little hound dogs on me, and what exactly will giving my name do for the dialog??

I just don't get what knowing my whole name has to do with giving me solid examples of any mis doings????

Please explain.

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #126 on: September 06, 2007, 12:01:10 PM »
Dear Cory Sigler or email  or sad website "The Working Tools". We do not hate anybody and we are not a revenge group. We just expose how sick people like you waste genuine victims time. You are stuck on a Masonic roundabout. Hope you don't mind if we try to save the planet and it's contents from selfish brainwashed drones like you.

No malice intended, only truth and facts.... Joe Stirling
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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #127 on: September 06, 2007, 12:10:21 PM »
I think you guys should read the other post in this forum called "Freemasonry is a criminal organization" We hope it helps you understand the truth. Many thanks, Joe Stirling
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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #128 on: September 06, 2007, 01:59:48 PM »
Joe- that was the lowest thing I could imagine you doing.

Here we see who is doing the criminal work and that is YOU!!!!

That is private info and you crossed the line my friend.

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #129 on: September 06, 2007, 02:33:48 PM »
i believe it won't make any difference to give criminal evidence of freemasons in higher positions.. like when i posted this:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=906.msg10307#msg10307
i saw hard authentic proof on it with my own eyes and checked the names and all on those members and all high position and corrupted. the corruption is bad in the city i live in. so if it happens worldwide why not in US too?

thanks for the long post J.S.

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #130 on: September 06, 2007, 03:18:58 PM »
Joe- that was the lowest thing I could imagine you doing.

Here we see who is doing the criminal work and that is YOU!!!!

That is private info and you crossed the line my friend.

Dear intelligent Cory, anyone can put your name into the search engines and got your old posts. The Masons certainly won a prize when you were initiated. I called Bart and he said Doh! and I agree. :(
Stop defending this evil criminal organization called "Freemasonry" and stop wasting people's time.
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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #131 on: September 06, 2007, 03:26:16 PM »
Joe
You certainly are making a great case for yourself aren't you. You are proving to be a trouble maker here not me.

What was the purpose of demanding my name then publishing it on an open forum like this?

How did this help anyone at all?

You are childish and insecure. You hide behind a website that no one reads or bothers with so you paste the same comments over and over on multiple website with no info at all. a handful of losers signed your petition- WOW I see that is really taking off now isn't it.

You took this to the next level Joe- not me. 

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« Reply #132 on: September 06, 2007, 07:12:53 PM »
I think that you will find that only 2nd generation masons are initiated into the higher echlons on freemasonry hence the bottom rungs are ignorant of the evil parts. Not just anyone can get into the inner sanctum.

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #133 on: September 06, 2007, 07:35:52 PM »

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #134 on: September 06, 2007, 07:56:26 PM »
I dont think Joe really needs to provide proof, anyone can do the research just as I have and find out the truth.... You have to work for it, truth dosent just jump out at you saying here I am!!!..... As far as the masons go, I personally believe it is a criminal organisation however, even masons themselves are unaware of it because of the compartmentalised secrecy involved, from top to bottom...... Do the research!!! Masonry is only one of many arms that are unaware of each other, but working towards a common goal AKA "The great work"
Waking up each day in this place is like falling asleep and having the same nightmare over and over again...... Why oh why didnt I take the "blue" pill???

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #135 on: September 07, 2007, 02:58:33 AM »
You are childish and insecure. You hide behind a website that no one reads or bothers with so you paste the same comments over and over on multiple website with no info at all. a handful of losers signed your petition- WOW I see that is really taking off now isn't it. 
Dear Cory, you are an extremely sick man. You are defending the world's most evil despicable fraternity of criminals. There are 260 victims who signed our petition so far, they have all left comments for you to read. Three times we asked you for advice to Masonic victims and you ignore. You see yourself to be the judge behind the curtains (yellow brick road). Hide behind a website ???? the whole planet can see my name and address or just call me. I understand that the Giant Redwoods are pretty thick also.

You really just don't get it, do you ? You have been conned. Your Masonic pirate ship is sinking.

I apologize for putting your personal details on this forum. But you have made it obvious of your ulterior motives and that is to defend the Masons (destroyers of society). This is our last communication, bye.
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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #136 on: September 07, 2007, 04:01:10 AM »
J.S. > what do you think about this? I've heard that there are clubs like the Lions Club prior to becoming a freemason. What is you aspects on prior freemasonry? Why do people get there? Why the rich, upper-class?
Have you seen "They live! (1988)"? there the upper-class betrayed their own.. I know this discussion is serious and not a movie, but as example..

I don't know why you had to reveal his identity. Prefer privacy myself and it just got this argument.. so i'd like to get back on topic.

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #137 on: September 07, 2007, 10:08:58 AM »
Freemasonry: Mankind’s Death Wish
Henry Makow Ph.D. 

Architects of Deception a 600-page history of Freemasonry by Estonian writer Juri Lina offers profound insight into the true character of modern history.

 Essentially, a dominant segment of Western society has joined the Jewish financial elite in embracing Freemasonry, a satanic philosophy that represents a death wish for civilization. They imagine somehow they will profit from the carnage and suffering caused by their "New World Order."

 Incredible, bizarre and depressing as it sounds, Lina writes that 300 mainly Jewish banking families have used Freemasonry as an instrument to subvert, control and degrade the Western world.

 This view is consistent with the 1938 NKVD interrogation of an illuminati member who names many of these banking families and confirms that Freemasons are expendable tools. (See my two-part "Rothschild Conducts Red Symphony" and "Terminated! Freemasonry's Final Revelation")

 Based on the archives of the powerful French Grand Orient Lodge, captured in June 1940 and later made public by the Russians, Lina details how Freemasonry has conspired for world domination and orchestrated all major revolutions and wars in the modern era. (Lina, p.332)

 Masons, often Jewish, are responsible for Communism, Zionism, Socialism, Liberalism (and Feminism.) They love big government because it is the ultimate monopoly. "World government" (dictatorship) is the final trophy. This is the vision behind 9-11 and the "War on Terror."

 These "world revolutionary" "progressive" movements all mirror Lucifer's rebellion against God and nature which is at the heart of Freemasonry. They ensnare millions of gullible idealists by promising a utopia based on materialism and "reason" and dedicated to "liberty, equality and fraternity," "public ownership" or some other idealistic sounding claptrap. It's called bait-and-switch.

According to Lina: "The primary aim of modern freemasonry is to build the New World Order, a spiritual Temple of Solomon, where non-members are nothing but slaves [and] ...where human beings would be sacrificed to Yahweh." (52)

Lina cites numerous Jewish sources that claim Freemasonry is based on Judaism and is "the executive political organ of the Jewish financial elite." (81-83)

The common goal of these Masonic inspired movements is to undermine race, religion, nation and family ("all collective forces except our own") by promoting social division, self indulgence and "tolerance" i.e. miscegenation, atheism, nihilism, global-ism, sexual "liberation" and homosexuality thereby reducing humanity to a uniform dysfunctional and malleable mush.

 Lina and others who attempt to alert humanity to its real condition are routinely slandered as anti-Semitic, fascist, and right wing "haters" by people indirectly employed by the bankers.

 This tactic shields the conspirators from scrutiny and makes discussion of our grim predicament impossible.

 I am a Jew. I am not part of this banking monopoly, nor is the majority of Jews. By way of analogy, the mafia is considered mostly Italian but most Italians do not belong to the mafia.

 Italians don't viciously attack opponents of organized crime and call them "racists" and "hate mongers". That would look awfully suspicious. Jews compromise themselves by their defence of the Masonic bankers and their perverse vision for humanity.

My four grandparents perished in the Jewish holocaust. I demand to know the real reason they were murdered. London-based Masonic bankers and their cronies brought Hitler to power in order to provoke war, control Stalin, and justify the creation of Israel. They betrayed non-Zionist Jews and let them perish. They are using the Jewish people in the same way they use the Masons.

The Illuminist Conspiracy

 We cannot understand the modern world unless we appreciate that it is the result of the Masonic conspiracy. People scoff yet the evidence stares them in the face every day.

 The Great Seal of the United States on every dollar bill is a Masonic symbol. There are 33 steps on the side of the pyramid representing the 33 degrees of Freemasonry. The Masons established the United States as a base to advance their goal of world supremacy. According to "The Temple and the Lodge" the Masonic English generals let their American "brothers" win a seeming independence. (Baigent & Leigh, pp.252ff.)

 Similarly, the emblem of the United Nations is also a Masonic symbol. The world is caught in a grid consisting of 33 spaces surrounded by acacia leaves, which signifies intense activity in masonry. (215)

 Three-quarters of US presidents in the Twentieth Century were high-level Masons. Both Bush and Kerry are Masons (Skull and Bones.) FDR, Churchill, Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin were masons. Most Zionist leaders were and are Masons. Gerhard Schroeder, Jacques Chirac and Tony Blair are Freemasons. So is Sadaam Hussein, which suggests the Iraq war could be a sadistic charade.

There are over six-million Masons in 32,000 lodges around the world including 2.5 million in the US. In 1929, 67% of Members of Congress were Masons. There are 500,000 Masons in England with more than 100 lodges in the City of London alone. More than five per cent of British judges are Masons.

 Lina believes, "Freemasonry plays the same role in Western society as the Communist Party did in the Soviet Union. Without belonging to the freemasonry there is no chance of a fast career, regardless of how talented one is."

 Keep in mind that Communism was a Masonic enterprize and the puzzle starts to take shape.

 Lina says Freemasons not only control politics but also virtually every sector of Western society, including science and culture. "The present cultural life has become virtually unconscious," he writes. "We have witnessed the beginning of cultural senility." (333)

 In his pamphlet "The Open Conspiracy: Blueprint for a World Revolution" (1929) the Freemason H.G. Wells describes an "open secret society" consisting of society's leading men operating as a hidden force to secure world resources, reduce population through war and replace the nation state with world dictatorship. (340)

Masonic ideology

 Human beings are naturally attracted to good and repulsed by evil. Thus evil always represents itself as good. To the public, and its own lower ranks, Freemasonry pretends to be dedicated to "making good men better", humanism, tolerance, Christianity and you-name-it.

 If this were true, would they have to extract vows of secrecy from members on pain of slitting their throat? Would they have been condemned by many Popes and banned from numerous countries? (84)

I do not wish to impugn the many good and decent men in the lower "Blue Degrees" who are unaware of Freemasonry's true function and character. But there is abundant evidence and testimony that Freemasonry is a satanic cult dedicated to the worship of death. (134-138)

 For example, when the Italian Grand Orient Lodge was evicted from the Palazzio Bourghese in Rome in 1893, the owner found a shrine dedicated to Satan. The Italian freemasons published a newspaper in the 1880's where they admitted time and again, "Our leader is Satan!" (135)

The Masons also admit to having a revolutionary political agenda. Typical of statements Lina cites from Masonic publications is the following from a German magazine in 1910:" The driving thought is at all times focused on destruction and annihilation, because the power of this great secret society can only rise from the ruins of the existing order of society." (272)

Conclusion

The Illuminist Conspiracy is the brake responsible for humanity's arrested development. Mankind resembles a person suffering from a serious disease and sinking into a coma.

 Juri Lina has written a courageous book to revive us. He says we face "the largest spiritual crisis in the history of mankind...They have taken our history, our dignity, our wisdom and our honor, sense of responsibility, spiritual insights and our traditions."

 We are partly to blame, he says: "We have failed to act against the Masonic madness due to our enormous gullibility. We have been totally fooled and ignored the warning signals." (274)

 He ends on a hopeful note, saying evil is dysfunctional and inevitably destroys itself. "Freemasonry carries within it the seeds of its own destruction." (563)

Wars, revolutions and depressions are all part of a "revolutionary" process designed to frogmarch humanity to "world government" under the rubric of Freemasonry which may be a surrogate for an alliance of occult Jewish and gentile financial elites. Their "self-destruction" seems to be our best hope since the public is too feckless and weak to resist.


[PICTURE]

Architects of Deception can be purchased for US$50 by emailing Jyri Lina at jyrilina@yahoo.com

The book also contains many gossipy nuggets such as Hitler had a son; Lenin was a homosexual; Castro is Jewish and a multimillionaire; and Henry Kissinger was/is a Soviet agent! He says the Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Rotary and Lions Clubs were founded by Masons. Golf was invented by Masons and has great significance to them

 Albert Pike, Head of Scottish Rite, on the great hoodwinking in "Morals and Dogma" (1871):

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled ..."

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry." (pp. 104, 105 & 819)

 See also Lyndon Larouche Real History of Satanism
 SEE Masonic Bible Used at Presidential Inaugurations
 See also my "Making the World Safe...for Bankers"

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #138 on: September 09, 2007, 05:48:04 AM »
Thought so.. This Lions Club has appeared in a place i doubt it would ever have appeared otherwise but through freemasonry. No wonder this place has become one of the most corrupt in the region..

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« Reply #139 on: September 18, 2008, 08:32:17 PM »
LOL, I just noticed that this thread was one started by Corsig the masonic troll to divert attention away from the wrong doings of freemasonry, and clearly the title has been amended to make it a worthwhile discussion on the criminality of freemasonry and how their serve their NWO/elitist/illuminati/satanic & jesuit masters.

very funny bit of irony

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« Reply #140 on: September 20, 2008, 10:18:39 AM »
LOL, I just noticed that this thread was one started by Corsig the masonic troll to divert attention away from the wrong doings of freemasonry, and clearly the title has been amended to make it a worthwhile discussion on the criminality of freemasonry and how their serve their NWO/elitist/illuminati/satanic & jesuit masters.

very funny bit of irony


Yeah I noticed that myself...

I was scratching my head wondering how that happened. Apparently changing the title from the one I used without my permission is the latest Masonic conspiracy.

 

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« Reply #141 on: September 29, 2008, 03:53:40 PM »
When I look at Masons history I can see clearly that the NWO and B.G contacted to it in some how.

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« Reply #142 on: September 30, 2008, 10:50:19 AM »
He has claimed that at the highest levels the Masonic leaders worship a blood-drinking Black Dragon. I would like to know where he received that information from.
Do you mean this one?

Found it here http://www.illuminati.org/index.php/the_Illuminati:Community_Portal  :-\
It's like something in the black magic/magick  ??? like this:
  It's more like snake..

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« Reply #143 on: October 14, 2008, 02:47:53 AM »
I would love to know why Alex is so against the Masons. What proof is there that they do anything wrong.

I know from listening to the show for about 2 years now AJ doesn't like them and neither does his guests.

Is it a religious reason or is there proof of any wrong doings.

Would be interested in hearing more about this very much

Cory

The Masons are an occult where they have different levels of followers, much like the Mormons. The lowest level of followers are clueless about the highest level of followers. They have to work their way to the top, per a friend of my wife that is a Mason. The Masons, Mormons, Christian Scientology, and many other religion wannabes all believe that they will become the one world religion, but they fail to realize the reality that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and is the only belief that is successful going to be not only the one world religion but also the one world government, all in one neat little package.

Alex Jones has researched many of the symbolism and mysterious activities of the Masons and has a legitimate reason to believe the way he does.

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« Reply #144 on: October 14, 2008, 03:12:25 AM »
Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt has compiled and is intent on preserving books that the elite want out of circulation.  Among those books are many dealing with Freemasonry.  Here is a link to a 1914 Encyclopedia of Freemasonry:   

http://www.americandeception.com/index.php?action=downloadpdf&photo=/PDFsml_AD/Encylopedia_Of_Freemasonry_Vol_1-A_Mackey33Dg-W_Hughan32Dg-E_Hawkins30Dg-1916-CTD-474pgs-SEC_SOC.sml.pdf&id=173

This is the link to all other books dealing with secret societies (Note...some are donor only access, but some are free to download):

http://www.americandeception.com/index.php?page=usercat&catid=11&PHPSESSID=84cff40954239356df213a46bbe54178


Edit:
Charlotte Iserbyt has not compiled this information, but has it linked through her web site here:
 http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

She supports the preservation of these books which exposes the NWO plan.

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« Reply #145 on: October 14, 2008, 06:04:00 AM »
great post Rustygunn, many thanks, I will copy this into the Literature section as well as I am sure more people will want to see Iserbyt's collection.
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« Reply #146 on: October 28, 2008, 11:22:19 AM »
Encyclical Letter of Pope Leo XIII on Freemasonry
 “They are planned the destruction of Holy Church publicly and openly”

Many people may ask what is so wrong with being a Mason, all the more so since even the members of the lower degrees of Freemasonry are not even aware of its real evil objectives. So it will be of interest to all to read what Pope Leo XIII wrote on April 20, 1884, a special encyclical letter (called “Humanum genus”) addressed to all the Bishops of the world, on the very subject of Freemasonry. Here are many excerpts:

HUMANUM GENUS
ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII

Two opposite parts

Leo XIII (Pope from 1878 to 1903)

The race of man (in Latin, “humanum genus”, hence the title of the encyclical letter), after its miserable fall from God, the Creator and the Giver of heavenly gifts, "through the envy of the devil," separated into two diverse and opposite parts, of which the one steadfastly contends for truth and virtue, the other of those things which are contrary to virtue and to truth. The one is the kingdom of God on earth, namely, the true Church of Jesus Christ; and those who desire from their heart to be united with it, so as to gain salvation, must of necessity serve God and His only-begotten Son with their whole mind and with an entire will. The other is the kingdom of Satan, in whose possession and control are all whosoever follow the fatal example of their leader and of our first parents, those who refuse to obey the divine and eternal law, and who have many aims of their own in contempt of God, and many aims also against God.

This twofold kingdom St. Augustine keenly discerned and described after the manner of two cities, contrary in their laws because striving for contrary objects; and with a subtle brevity he expressed the efficient cause of each in these words: "Two loves formed two cities: the love of self, reaching even to contempt of God, an earthly city; and the love of God, reaching to contempt of self, a heavenly one." At every period of time each has been in conflict with the other, with a variety and multiplicity of weapons and of warfare, although not always with equal ardour and assault.

The aim of Freemasonry: the destruction of holy Church

At this period, however, the partisans of evil seems to be combining together, and to be struggling with united vehemence, led on or assisted by that strongly organized and widespread association called the Freemasons. No longer making any secret of their purposes, they are now boldly rising up against God Himself. They are planning the destruction of holy Church publicly and openly, and this with the set purpose of utterly despoiling the nations of Christendom, if it were possible, of the blessings obtained for us through Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Lamenting these evils, We are constrained by the charity which urges Our heart to cry out often to God: "For lo, Thy enemies have made a noise; and they that hate Thee have lifted up the head. They have taken a malicious counsel against Thy people, and they have consulted against Thy saints. They have said, `come, and let us destroy them, so that they be not a nation.' (Ps. 81:24)

At so urgent a crisis, when so fierce and so pressing an onslaught is made upon the Christian name, it is Our office to point out the danger, to mark who are the adversaries, and to the best of Our power to make head against their plans and devices, that those may not perish whose salvation is committed to Us, and that the kingdom of Jesus Christ entrusted to Our charge may not stand and remain whole, but may be enlarged by an ever-increasing growth throughout the world.

For as soon as the constitution and the spirit of the masonic sect were clearly discovered by manifest signs of its actions, by the investigation of its causes, by publication of its laws, and of its rites and commentaries, with the addition often of the personal testimony of those who were in the secret, this Apostolic See denounced the sect of the Freemasons, and publicly declared its constitution, as contrary to law and right, to be pernicious no less to Christendom than to the State; and it forbade any one to enter the society, under the penalties which the Church is wont to inflict upon exceptionally guilty persons.

The sect of Freemasons grew with a rapidity beyond conception in the course of a century and a half, until it came to be able, by means of fraud or of audacity, to gain such entrance into every rank of the State as to seem to be almost its ruling power. This swift and formidable advance has brought upon the Church, upon the power of princes, upon the public well-being, precisely that grievous harm which Our predecessors had long before foreseen. Such a condition has been reached that henceforth there will be grave reason to fear, not indeed for the Church — for her foundation is much too firm to be overturned by the effort of men — but for those States in which prevails the power, either of the sect of which we are speaking or of other sects not dissimilar which lend themselves to it as disciples and subordinates.

For, from what We have above most clearly shown, that which is their ultimate purpose forces itself into view-namely, the utter overthrow of that whole religious and political order of the world which the Christian teaching has produced, and the substitution of a new state of things in accordance with their ideas, of which the foundations and laws shall be drawn from mere naturalism.

What We have said, and are about to say, must be understood of the sect of the Freemasons taken generically, and in so far as it comprises the associations kindred to it and confederated with it, but not of the individual members of them. There may be persons amongst these, and not a few who, although not free from the guilt of having entangled themselves in such associations, yet are neither themselves partners in their criminal acts nor aware of the ultimate object which they are endeavoring to attain.

Now, the fundamental doctrine of the naturalists, which they sufficiently make known by their very name, is that human nature and human reason ought in all things to be mistress and guide. Laying this down, they care little for duties to God, or pervert them by erroneous and vague opinions. For they deny that anything has been taught by God; they allow no dogma of religion or truth which cannot be understood by the human intelligence, nor any teacher who ought to be believed by reason of his authority. And since it is the special and exclusive duty of the Catholic Church fully to set forth in words truths divinely received, to teach, besides other divine helps to salvation, the authority of its office, and to defend the same with perfect purity, it is against the Church that the rage and attack of the enemies are principally directed.

By a long and persevering labor, they endeavor to bring about this result — namely, that the teaching office and authority of the Church may become of no account in the civil State; and for this same reason they declare to the people and contend that Church and State ought to be altogether disunited. By this means they reject from the laws and from the commonwealth the wholesome influence of the Catholic religion; and they consequently imagine that States ought to be constituted without any regard for the laws and precepts of the Church.

Nor do they think it enough to disregard the Church — the best of guides — unless they also injure it by their hostility. Indeed, with them it is lawful to attack with impunity the very foundations of the Catholic religion, in speech, in writing, and in teaching; and even the rights of the Church are not spared, and the offices with which it is divinely invested are not safe. The least possible liberty to manage affairs is left to the Church; and this is done by laws not apparently very hostile, but in reality framed and fitted to hinder freedom of action.

If those who are admitted as members are not commanded to abjure by any form of words the Catholic doctrines, this omission, so far from being adverse to the designs of the Freemasons, is more useful for their purposes. First, in this way they easily deceive the simple-minded and the heedless, and can induce a far greater number to become members. Again, as all who offer themselves are received whatever may be their form of religion, they thereby teach the great error of this age-that a regard for religion should be held as an indifferent matter, and that all religions are alike.

Morality without religion

We speak now of the duties which have their origin in natural probity. That God is the Creator of the world and its provident Ruler; that the eternal law commands the natural order to be maintained, and forbids that it be disturbed; that the last end of men is a destiny far above human things and beyond this sojourning upon the earth: these are the sources and these the principles of all justice and morality. If these be taken away, as the naturalists and Freemasons desire, there will immediately be no knowledge as to what constitutes justice and injustice, or upon what principle morality is founded. And, in truth, the only thing which has found grace before the members of the Masonic sect and in which they request that youth should receive the proper teaching is what they call “civic morality”, “independent morality”, “free morality”, in other words a morality in which religious beliefs find no room. This morality is insufficient and its effects are its own condemnation.

But, how insufficient such teaching is, how wanting in soundness, and how easily moved by every impulse of passion, is sufficiently proved by its sad fruits, which have already begun to appear. For, wherever, by removing Christian education, this teaching has begun more completely to rule, there goodness and integrity of morals have begun quickly to perish, monstrous and shameful opinions have grown up, and the audacity of evil deeds has risen to a high degree. All this is commonly complained of and deplored; and not a few of those who by no means wish to do so are compelled by abundant evidence to give not infrequently the same testimony.

Wherefore we see that men are publicly tempted by the many allurements of pleasure; that there are journals and pamphlets with neither moderation nor shame; that stage-plays are remarkable for license; that designs for works of art are shamelessly sought in the laws of a so called verism; that the contrivances of a soft and delicate life are most carefully devised; and that all the blandishments of pleasure are diligently sought out by which virtue may be lulled to sleep.

Satiate the multitude with vice

Wickedly, also, but at the same time quite consistently, do those act who do away with the expectation of the joys of heaven, and bring down all happiness to the level of mortality, and, as it were, sink it in the earth. Of what We have said the following fact, astonishing not so much in itself as in its open expression, may serve as a confirmation. For, since generally no one is accustomed to obey crafty and clever men so submissively as those whose soul is weakened and broken down by the domination of the passions, there have been in the sect of the Freemasons some who have plainly determined and proposed that, artfully and of set purpose, the multitude should be satiated with a boundless license of vice, as, when this had been done, it would easily come under their power and authority for any acts of daring.

What refers to domestic life in the teaching of the naturalists is almost all contained in the following declarations: that marriage belongs to the genus of commercial contracts, which can rightly be revoked by the will of those who made them, and that the civil rulers of the State have power over the matrimonial bond; that in the education of youth nothing is to be taught in the matter of religion as of certain and fixed opinion; and each one must be left at liberty to follow, when he comes of age, whatever he may prefer. To these things the Freemasons fully assent; and not only assent, but have long endeavoured to make them into a law and institution. For in many countries, and those nominally Catholic, it is enacted that no marriages shall be considered lawful except those contracted by the civil rite; in other places the law permits divorce; and in others every effort is used to make it lawful as soon as may be. Thus, the time is quickly coming when marriages will be turned into another kind of contract-that is into changeable and uncertain unions which fancy may join together, and which the same when changed may disunite.

Taking over the education of youth

With the greatest unanimity the sect of the Freemasons also endeavours to take to itself the education of youth. They think that they can easily mold to their opinions that soft and pliant age, and bend it whither they will; and that nothing can be more fitted than this to enable them to bring up the youth of the State after their own plan. Therefore, in the education and instruction of children they allow no share, either of teaching or of discipline, to the ministers of the Church; and in many places they have procured that the education of youth shall be exclusively in the hands of laymen, and that nothing which treats of the most important and most holy duties of men to God shall be introduced into the instructions on morals.

What, therefore, sect of the Freemasons is, and what course it pursues, appears sufficiently from the summary We have briefly given. Their chief dogmas are so greatly and manifestly at variance with reason that nothing can be more perverse. To wish to destroy the religion and the Church which God Himself has established, and whose perpetuity He insures by His protection, and to bring back after a lapse of eighteen centuries the manners and customs of the pagans, is signal folly and audacious impiety. Neither is it less horrible nor more tolerable that they should repudiate the benefits which Jesus Christ so mercifully obtained, not only for individuals, but also for the family and for civil society, benefits which, even according to the judgment and testimony of enemies of Christianity, are very great. In this insane and wicked endeavor we may almost see the implacable hatred and spirit of revenge with which Satan himself is inflamed against Jesus Christ.

So also the studious endeavour of the Freemasons to destroy the chief foundations of justice and honesty, and to co-operate with those who would wish, as if they were mere animals, to do what they please, tends only to the ignominious and disgraceful ruin of the human race. The evil, too, is increased by the dangers which threaten both domestic and civil society. As We have elsewhere shown, in marriage, according to the belief of almost every nation, there is something sacred and religious; and the law of God has determined that marriages shall not be dissolved. If they are deprived of their sacred character, and made dissoluble, trouble and confusion in the family will be the result, the wife being deprived of her dignity and the children left without protection as to their interests and well being.

To have in public matters no care for religion, and in the arrangement and administration of civil affairs to have no more regard for God than if He did not exist, is a rashness unknown to the very pagans; for in their heart and soul the notion of a divinity and the need of public religion were so firmly fixed that they would have thought it easier to have city without foundation than a city without God. Human society, indeed for which by nature we are formed, has been constituted by God the Author of nature; and from Him, as from their principle and source, flow in all their strength and permanence the countless benefits with which society abounds. As we are each of us admonished by the very voice of nature to worship God in piety and holiness, as the Giver unto us of life and of all that is good therein, so also and for the same reason, nations and States are bound to worship Him; and therefore it is clear that those who would absolve society from all religious duty act not only unjustly but also with ignorance and folly.

As men are by the will of God born for civil union and society, and as the power to rule is so necessary a bond of society that, if it be taken away, society must at once be broken up, it follows that from Him who is the Author of society has come also the authority to rule; so that whosoever rules, he is the minister of God. Wherefore, as the end and nature of human society so requires, it is right to obey the just commands of lawful authority, as it is right to obey God who ruleth all things; and it is most untrue that the people have it in their power to cast aside their obedience whensoever they please.

Would that all men would judge of the tree by its fruit, and would acknowledge the seed and origin of the evils which press upon us, and of the dangers that are impending! We have to deal with a deceitful and crafty enemy, who, gratifying the ears of people and of princes, has ensnared them by smooth speeches and by adulation.

"But for this reason," to use the words of St. Augustine, "men think, or would have it believed, that Christian teaching is not suited to the good of the State; for they wish the State to be founded not on solid virtue, but on the impunity of vice." Knowing these things, both princes and people would act with political wisdom, and according to the needs of general safety, if, instead of joining with Freemasons to destroy the Church, they joined with the Church in repelling their attacks.

A plague creeping in the body politic

We pray and beseech you, venerable brethren, to join your efforts with Ours, and earnestly to strive for the extirpation of this foul plague, which is creeping through the veins of the body politic. (...) We wish it to be your rule first of all to tear away the mask from Freemasonry, and to let it be seen as it really is; and by sermons and pastoral letters to instruct the people as to the artifices used by societies of this kind in seducing men and enticing them into their ranks, and as to the depravity of their opinions and the wickedness of their acts. As Our predecessors have many times repeated, let no man think that he may for any reason whatsoever join the masonic sect, if he values his Catholic name and his eternal salvation as he ought to value them. Let no one be deceived by a pretense of honesty. It may seem to some that Freemasons demand nothing that is openly contrary to religion and morality; but, as the whole principle and object of the sect lies in what is vicious and criminal, to join with these men or in any way to help them cannot be lawful.

Further, by assiduous teaching and exhortation, the multitude must be drawn to learn diligently the precepts of religion; for which purpose we earnestly advise that by opportune writings and sermons they be taught the elements of those sacred truths in which Christian philosophy is contained.

This good and great work requires to be helped also by the industry of those amongst the laity in whom a love of religion and of country is joined to learning and goodness of life. By uniting the efforts of both clergy and laity, strive, venerable brethren, to make men thoroughly know and love the Church; for, the greater their knowledge and love of the Church, the more will they be turned away from clandestine societies.

Let us take our helper and intercessor the Virgin Mary, Mother of God, so that she, who from the moment of her conception overcame Satan may show her power over these evil sects, in which is revived the contumacious spirit of the demon, together with his unsubdued perfidy and deceit. Let us beseech Michael, the prince of the heavenly angels, who drove out the infernal foe; and Joseph, the spouse of the most holy Virgin, and heavenly patron of the Catholic Church; and the great Apostles, Peter and Paul, the fathers and victorious champions of the Christian faith. By their patronage, and by perseverance in united prayer, we hope that God will mercifully and opportunely succor the human race, which is encompassed by so many dangers.

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #147 on: December 29, 2008, 04:07:44 PM »
So I'm new here and have been reading around all the forums here for the last few weeks and after this thread I have some questions of the membership and of the moderators of this site.

1. In this thread there are several members admitting that the Title of this thread was changed without the expressed permission of the thread starter. Why? If I have to worry about my words being censored not only will leave this forum forever but I will also demand a refund of my yearly membership.

2. Do the people here believe in the Constitution? More directly the first amendment? Here let me post the exact writing, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Everyone here seems to ignore the first half of the first line. Its almost like people forget we have freedom of religion.

3. Does any member have actual proof that the Freemasons are criminals? I'm not interested in them being Satan worshipers. The way I look at the situation is this; The Founding Fathers were freemasons and boy did they do a hell of a job writing the constitution.

Personally I dont care what god a man prays to. He can pray to a golden terd falling from a squirrels ass for all I care, as long as the economy is good, the crime rate is down, and my borders are secure.

Anyone care to re-open this conversation?

-wes


From the testimonials that I have listened to, there are only a very small number of freemasons who are actually aware of the nefarious objectives of the 'elite' at the top.  It's the same kind of thing with catholics because the heirarchy is compartmentalized. 

Hitler hated masons and they were persecuted during that time, a lot of people don't realize this.  And in regard to the founding fathers - yes I agree they definitely knew what they were doing.  They also had experienced religious tyranny in Europe.  Their ideologies were structured in accordance with Biblical law to a large extent, inalienable rights, etc...  as a result of the protestant reformation, and many of them were in fact very devout Christians.  Too bad we're losing that foundation that this country was founded on bit by bit.

Bill Schnoebelen talks about all of this - he went very high up into the esoteric levels of freemasonry (Luciferianiam - same as the catholics) and he was also a catholic priest who eventually became a born again Christian.  Do a google search and you can find several videos of his if you're interested.   

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« Reply #148 on: December 30, 2008, 09:02:21 AM »
As for your 1st amendment rights, they are not being infringed as this is a private forum, which is opened for public access. Views that differ widely from those of AJ and team or the mvoement in general, or people seen to be here for purposes of causing trouble are indeed censored.

The reason this does not infringe your rights is that you can go to literally a million other places on the web and be as pro-masonic (or pro Bush, or pro Israeli or pro-war or whatever) as you like, hence you have free speech.

This space is kept as a educational space to further the interests of the movement, allowing all and sundry to come here and spread their lies woudl reduce this space to the same as GLP where it is a free for all and good information is often hard to find. The entire purpose of this space is to spread good information, hence cointel, megaphone brigade, and masonic trolls like corsig are all censored wherever possible (as are some nut job views and religious/ethnic hate etc)

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« Reply #149 on: December 30, 2008, 02:28:40 PM »
so now you delete my posts

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« Reply #150 on: December 30, 2008, 09:06:54 PM »
so now you delete my posts

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precisely
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« Reply #151 on: January 04, 2009, 01:24:32 PM »
Well Biggs I sent you a PM, I hope you get it. I am not a masonic troll, and I dont even know what GLP is. I'm ex-military and all I know of masons is that they are a bunch of old men who dont know whether or not they want to be christian. Does anyone have any proof that they are run by the Bilderbergers?

I know the man that started the KKK was a mason and that dosent look too good. Can anyone alse give some examples of evil shit like the KKK coming out of the masons?

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« Reply #152 on: February 04, 2009, 04:00:15 AM »
..alls i know is it `s kinda funny with the oaths ..and funky weird stuff they are up to , then the oaths mean something to the initiates. they have chosen their path
..steinetology 2 billion yr  contract, private jails going on now presidents in all honesty they must really be giving up oaths of other organizations (what is treason?) to be devoted only to this country not against it
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« Reply #153 on: March 10, 2009, 11:38:07 AM »
On my way home yesterday, something occured to me about the Triangle and Compass. And it really clicked once I tuned into the rebroadcast and heard Alex breaking down the symbolism in the Watchmen with such clarity...

On the facade of the Royal Ontario museum in Toronto, part of the fresco is comprised of this stylized pattern of deltas. Basically it's one of these:

  /\
 /  \
/    \

Overlaid on one of these

\    /
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Which results in this shape.

  \ /\ /
  /\  /\
 /  \/  \

The simplification of these forms made it clear how similar they are to both the Indian Sri Yantra and the Masonic Square and Compass...

  vs

It's a pretty obvious connection to make, I suppose, and others have done so... this geocities page, for instance, breaks down the dualism inherent in these symbols..

http://www.geocities.com/jussaymoe/phallicism/phallicism.htm

It's really surprising , though, to see it pop out at you in this way. In fact, that whole area of Toronto is very rich in symbolism, since it's right by the University of Toronto campus. The older buildings at U of T, as well as the provincial legislature down the street, are literally encrusted in symbolism, owls, etc. Without getting into the architects here, who without a doubt were masons, suffice it to say that these buildings speak their own language.

It's not just the square and compass... a new order of things is busting out all over at the ROM, in fact... (shades of IM Pei?)



While the old order simply assumes a new mask...



You can read a little bit about additional architectural examples in the area here and here.

One last thing... the crest of Victoria College, which is across the street from the ROM, features a Phoenix, which has associations to the cycle of destruction and rebirth that is so much a part of the belief system of so many religions, including the belief (in the Watchmen) of civilization reborn from nuclear fire, Christ's blood sacrifice and  ascension, etc etc.



Of course, it's probably just a coincidence that the U of T is host to a massive globalist thinktank::)

Anyways, if you live in the area, have a walk through campus... look up... free-associate... the truth shall make you free.  :D

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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #154 on: March 13, 2009, 10:45:45 AM »
From the testimonials that I have listened to, there are only a very small number of freemasons who are actually aware of the nefarious objectives of the 'elite' at the top.  It's the same kind of thing with catholics because the heirarchy is compartmentalized. 

Hitler hated masons and they were persecuted during that time, a lot of people don't realize this.  And in regard to the founding fathers - yes I agree they definitely knew what they were doing.  They also had experienced religious tyranny in Europe.  Their ideologies were structured in accordance with Biblical law to a large extent, inalienable rights, etc...  as a result of the protestant reformation, and many of them were in fact very devout Christians.  Too bad we're losing that foundation that this country was founded on bit by bit.

Bill Schnoebelen talks about all of this - he went very high up into the esoteric levels of freemasonry (Luciferianiam - same as the catholics) and he was also a catholic priest who eventually became a born again Christian.  Do a google search and you can find several videos of his if you're interested.   

of course Hitler hated masons, as mason were mostly Jews.
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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #155 on: March 13, 2009, 03:52:06 PM »
of course Hitler hated masons, as mason were mostly Jews.

to be more precise he hated lower level freemasons, blue lodgers, first 3 degrees, there is no way his prussian military commanders were not all masons, but they would have been higher level masons
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Re: Freemasonry is a Criminal Organisation
« Reply #156 on: March 13, 2009, 09:50:03 PM »
to be more precise he hated lower level freemasons, blue lodgers, first 3 degrees, there is no way his prussian military commanders were not all masons, but they would have been higher level masons

makes sense.  I really don't know much about it, except that a good deal of freemasons of that time period were Jews or at least of Jewish ancestry.
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« Reply #157 on: March 17, 2009, 08:51:43 PM »


I came across a series of films series : 13 Masonic Secrets

Has anyone else seen these series ?

13 Masonic Secrets Trailer . 13 Masonic Secrets is the highly anticipated new film exposing 13 Masonic Secrets, brought to you by HashemsFilms and Freedomtou Pictures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhs6KpFdHzQ

Part 1 of 13 You must obey the Ancient Laws of Egypt: Episode one sheds a little light on a mysterious relationship between Jordan Maxwell and 33rd degree freemason Manly P Hall as well as discusses Freemasonic system of citizenship and how it relates to the transformation of world citizenship to the Ancient Egyptian System. Desc: A. James.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bRnsbdCF5s

Part 2 of 13 The Temple of Isis: Episode two deals with the temple of Isis, her relationship with the statue of liberty, the parallels between the gods of ancient Egypt and America and touches on the pillars of Jachin and Boaz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKR80R17Ipg

Part 3 of 13 The Twin Pillars of Jachin & Boaz: This episode deals entirely with the pillars of Jachin and Boaz, their significance throughout history, their relationship to freemasonic and alchemical thought and practice in addition to the use of it as a portal of some sort...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AwOMd7jTxs

Part 4 of 13 This episode deals with the Passing of the Veil of Isis, Einstein's famous theory of E=MC2 and the use of Manipulation of Vibrations that occur in the different levels of Freemasonry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANDHrHC_DVw

Part 5 of 13 The checkered floors: This episode deals with the hidden meaning behind the symbolic Checkered Floors used in all Masonic Halls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO6IJYKUiFM

Part 6 of Anti-Matter, CERN and the world of Jinns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZZ5M-1k2rU

Part 7 of 13 The most perfect shape, the essence of God: This episode deals with the most perfect shape, the essence of God according to Freemasons, their most sacred tool and the Nexus, the hallway with all the doors .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvoUZMCrBjU

Part 8 of 13 This episode deals with the Merkaba, the light vehicle which takes ones consciousness to the Nexus and beyond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6qJb6688zI

Part 9 thru 13 This episode deals with the blue Jinn, their nature and relationship to Masons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfozj2Gc3As

Part 10 thru 13 This episode deals with the Stonecutters, Ley Lines and Buildings designed on specific energy points for specific purposes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShlV5y2Ew_s

Part 11 -12 - 13
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« Reply #158 on: March 18, 2009, 11:52:13 AM »
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« Reply #159 on: August 11, 2009, 01:11:38 AM »
we square our actions by square of our virtue

Are you on the square my friend?

And masonry is evil. Oh course not Mr. Jones the 3rd degree mason who goes to the lodges is not. But at the heights of the Scottish rite its all bad.

Straight from the mouth of the mason God:

"To you Sovereign Grand Inspectors General (the name of the 33rd degree, the highest degree known to the world in Scottish Rite Masonry), we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees. The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine" (Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma)


"The Blue Degrees (the first three degrees of Masonry) are but the outer court or portico of the Temple.  Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their True explication is reserved for the Adepts (those who have advanced to the highest degrees in Masonry) . . . It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain (and any past Mason who has learned the truth, knows the almost complete futility in trying to enlighten his fellow Mason as to truth. For they have been so completely indoctrinated they will not listen, nor examine the evidence presented to them) . . . " (Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 819).