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Offline matrixcutter

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Andrew Gilligan
This is the guy who exposed the fact that Iraq's capabilities had been "sexed up" - the "classic" example of the exaggeration was the dossier's claim that Iraq was able to deploy biological weapons within 45 minutes.  Gilligan's source was one of the world's foremost biological weapons experts, Dr David Kelly, who was subsequently murdered, or "suicided".


Here comes Big Brother Britain – now stand up and fight for liberty
Andrew Gilligan
26.02.09

YOU probably remember the famous lines of the anti-Nazi priest Martin Niemöller. First they came for the communists, he said, and he didn't speak out because he wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and he didn't speak out because he wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and he didn't speak out because he wasn't a Jew. Finally, they came for him, and there was no one left to speak out for him.

Britain will never be Nazi Germany. But in our steady march towards a police state, this could be something of a Niemöller moment. Until recently, perhaps even until now, New Labour ministers' mocking claim that civil liberties were a concern only for the "dinner party crowd" had some truth.

Ordinary people - the white ones, anyway - tended to approve of "crackdowns", ID cards and the rest. They believed nobody would ever come for them. These were measures against troublemakers, minorities, guys with beards and funny names. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

But now they aren't just coming for other people. They're coming for everyone. They're coming for the innocent. They are coming for you.

In a report published yesterday by the Institute for Public Policy Research, Sir David Omand, Whitehall's intelligence and security co-ordinator in the run-up to the Iraq war, discusses the active government proposals for "data-mining", where the private and personal data of everyone in the country - telephone records, emails, shop transactions, our very movements as tracked by number-plate recognition cameras and CCTV - is fed into giant computer banks to be analysed for "suspicious" activity.

"Such sources have always been accessible to traditional law enforcement seeking evidence against a named suspect already justified by reasonable suspicion," says Omand. However, "application of modern data mining and processing techniques does involve examination of the innocent as well as the suspect to identify patterns of interest for further investigation ... Finding out other people's secrets is going to involve breaking everyday moral rules."

Privacy, in short, if Sir David and his colleagues like the Home Secretary Jacqui Smith have anything to do with it, is over. He even says so ("modern intelligence access ... may have to be at the expense of some aspects of privacy").

Omand's paper is a model of the confusion that governs our new security state. He talks of safeguards but proposes only "a set of guidelines". He believes that the sacrifice of privacy is "greatly preferable to ... derogating from fundamental human rights". But under the European Convention, privacy is a fundamental human right and though there is a national security exception, this has been narrowly interpreted by the courts.

He speaks of the importance of maintaining "public trust in the essential reasonableness of UK police, security and intelligence activity". In the very week that British agents are revealed as apparently complicit in torture, talking about their "essential reasonableness" must surely be some sort of deep mandarin irony.

Omand speaks of the new electronic trawling-net as a means of countering terrorism but as he admits earlier in the paper, the Government has quietly redefined "national security" to include large numbers of threats (such as organised crime) which are not terrorist and which do not threaten our national security at all. We all know how anti-terror powers have already been used to spy on families suspected of cheating in their applications for a school place; Sir David's "guidelines" seem unlikely to protect us against that sort of abuse.

Indeed, it is hard to argue that even terrorism seriously threatens our security as a nation. In the past decade, terrorists have killed 146 people in the UK (87 of them in Northern Ireland and almost all the rest on 7/7), a decline of 88 per cent since the 1980s. Attacks may be deadlier but they are far, far less frequent; in the more than seven years since 9/11, a time of unprecedented Western-Muslim tension, there have been just two "al Qaeda" attacks causing loss of innocent life in the entire Western world. In Britain, hospital superbugs kill more of us every four days than al Qaeda has managed in its entire existence.

It is doubtful indeed whether the new powers will reduce the frequency of such attacks. They will simply swamp the agencies with unmanageably large amounts of data. The Government is adding an enormous haystack to its collection of needles. Besides, any terrorist worth the name will be careful not to leave an electronic trail or will leave a false one: it is only the innocent who have anything to fear.

That this is a measure specifically targeted at the innocent, and at our privacy, may finally be enough to stir the British public. As a people we have traditionally never been that bothered about "civil liberties" but a million leylandii hedges testify how strongly we feel about privacy. To attack it is to assault the G-spot of Middle England.

Things are stirring already: this Saturday, in London and across the country, an event called the Convention on Modern Liberty will represent perhaps the most concerted coming-together yet by people concerned about the destruction of our democratic way of life. (I am speaking at it, on press freedom - seriously threatened by the new database. If no communication is private, no confidential source will ever speak to a journalist again.)

The simple fact is that some things are worse than terrorism, and the Big Brother database is one of them. Even in the highly unlikely event that it could work, even if it could help reduce attacks, I would rather keep my privacy and take my chances. I would rather run the absolutely minute risk of being blown up than have my privacy blown away.

Throughout our history, we have always believed that liberty is worth some risk. In the Second World War, millions risked their lives for liberty; hundreds of thousands gave their lives. Now, when the risk is by comparison so much smaller, the death toll so comparatively tiny, we are shamed and surprised by our rulers' surrender to repression.

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Related articles:

Privacy sacrificed in war on terror, says spy chief
Better pay out to Qatada than lose our freedoms
MI5 'used James Bond clause over the torture of detainees'

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Alan Watt discussed this article in the following mp3:

Feb. 26, 2009
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" on RBN (ads removed):
Propaganda and Lies Now Privatized:
"Daily News Scrolls Past Your Eyes,
Stating Institutions Now Privatized,
While Same News, in All Hypocrisy,
Proclaims the Benefits of Democracy,
Where We are Free, Yet Every Letter
Is Recorded for Any Sign of Terror,
Tax-Funded R&D into Private High-Tech
With its Monitoring Makes Us All Suspect,
Learn from Children, They Want to Know
What the World's About, What Makes It So,
Don't Get Beat Down, Don't Bow So Low,
If Something Stinks, Just Say No!"
***Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt - Feb. 26, 2009 (Exempting Music, Literary Quotes, and Callers' Comments)
***LISTEN / DOWNLOAD

Topics of show covered in following links:
"Here comes Big Brother Britain - now stand up and fight for liberty" by Andrew Gilligan (thisislondon.co.uk) - Feb. 26, 2009.
"U.S. may need a larger Afghan troop increase: experts" by David Morgan (reuters.com) - Feb. 13, 2009.
"Oops. We overlooked 193,000 square miles of ice" (iceagenow.com) - Feb. 19, 2009.
"Japan's boffins: Global warming isn't man-made" by Andrew Orlowski (theregister.co.uk) - Feb. 25, 2009.
"Blair's son 'drunk and incapable' " (news.bbc.co.uk) - July 6, 2000.
"Fluoride Will Be Added To City Tap Water" by Thomas Moore (news.sky.com) - Feb. 26, 2009.
"Sir Fred Will Not Forego £16.6m Pension Pot" (news.sky.com) - Feb. 26, 2009

Offline DAVIDENGLAND

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Thank you very much for that, something to listen to tonight when it's finished downloading :)
The question isn't whether we are right or wrong, the question is, are we even in the conversation??

Offline Chigs

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Yeah, thanks for this will do for listening to while I surf....
"On every street there's a nobody who dreams of being somebody.
He's a lonely forgotten man desperate to prove that he's alive."

Offline UK Lyn

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We were onto this as far back as Jan 1st
Some good people going to be there:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=77704.0

Offline matrixcutter

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Thank you very much for that, something to listen to tonight when it's finished downloading :)

Yeah, thanks for this will do for listening to while I surf....

You're welcome.

There are a few more you might want to listen to here:
The last 3 weeks of Alan Watt's RBN show - taking it up a level

And even more in this thread.

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I went to the local council tip the other day to get rid of some rubbish out of the garage. As I drove in the entrance my eyes were drawn to a LED display mounted on a post to the left, it displayed my number plate followed by "welcome". I couldnt believe it,  thats the first time I have ever seen a camera that reads your plates, these will probably be all over the roads soon (are they already?) you can be followed everywhere these days.

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They have been in petrol stations for years i'm afriad ... and the police use them already, most of the traffic pursuit cars have them fitted and they sit them in vans over looking motorways to try an catch tax dodgers ....
"On every street there's a nobody who dreams of being somebody.
He's a lonely forgotten man desperate to prove that he's alive."

Offline myleslea

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First post here for me. I've been listening to Alex for 4 years.
Really want to find some like minded 'AWAKE' people in London.
I don't know anyone else who listens or is fully awake.
Any idea where I can find a forum or people in real life who are Awake?
Thanks in advance, Myles

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I went to the local council tip the other day to get rid of some rubbish out of the garage. As I drove in the entrance my eyes were drawn to a LED display mounted on a post to the left, it displayed my number plate followed by "welcome". I couldnt believe it,  thats the first time I have ever seen a camera that reads your plates, these will probably be all over the roads soon (are they already?) you can be followed everywhere these days.

They are already available to the police these cameras. In my area of south east Kent, they have "traffic cameras" that read number plates and I have sent numerous letters to the local Conservative MP decrying the surveilance state and he only said that he agrees to the proposal. Bloody traitor!
“Good luck to him. I don’t blame him at all, but I just
wish he had not hit me so hard. I know he had to protect
his property, and I probably would have done the
same thing in his position. This has certainly stopped
me committing any more crime.” - British burglar elaborating robbery

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Britain will never be Nazi Germany.

No, Britain is in the hand of the NWO forces - since a long time. What does not mean that there will be no dictatorship of them.

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I Completely Oppose a Totalitarian Surveillance State

It makes a Mockery of Briton's Never Shall be Slaves

Liberty America

Offline ed_shaw

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Just wanted to pass this along:

Re-post of Ed Shaw comment
May 24, 2013
Thread: Security Issues


English Defence League response to
Woolwich Public Ritual Beheading is "feet on the street."


Government stooges and paid Asian internet posters flooded the Tweet and Comment boxes
of Britain's major newspapers with statements critical of the English Defence league
even before
Prime Minister David Cameron delivered his government's response, to the effect, "We have never
allowed ourselves to be intimidated."  Which, of course, is perfect nonsense. The history of the
Islamisation of England has been a non stop chronicle of political correctness, cowardice, denial,
and forfeit to intimidation. The only ones having the courage to resist both government pressure
and the financial leverage of Middle Eastern money are Tommy Robinson's EDL and Nigel Fabrage's
United Kingdom's Independence Party, (UKIP,)  a nationalist,  home interest party which is now the
fastest growing party in England. The UKIP leadership, not incidentally, has praised the EDL, which is
a decidedly anti-Sharia, non-racist, pro-Israel, grass roots defence league, popular among some young men, vets,
soccer fans, and UK patriots fed up with Westminster's pandering to Sharia.

The following link to reports of EDL demonstrations that followed the ritual  beheading.
This time, it looks like the police were met with some rock and bottle throwing on the part of the EDL.

http://www.newkerala.com/news/story/22906/english-defence-league-retaliates-following-woolwich-terror-attack.html
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/470202/20130522/woolwich-beheading-edl-leader-tommy-robinson-rally.htm

Even self proclaimed "impervious to public indoctrination," radio host, infowars' Alex Jones, describes the EDL as a "quasi skinhead organization."

Riots in Stockholm's immigrant district continue into fourth day.
As in London, 2011, said to be ignited by a police shooting, which, as we have learned,
is justification for rioting, treatable by psychologists trained in getting to the bottom of
the causes of cultural resentment on the parts of Islamic immigrants.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/470934/20130524/stockholm-riots-pics-sweden.htm

Comment solicited the following reply, from Kay:
Alex Jones just goes to prove that there is no one who is unable to be duped. :o