//transcript begins approximately 2:08 into the 2/26/2009 broadcast//
AJ: Senator Randy Brogdon of Oklahoma is our guest. He has introduced mirror legislation to the House version that Representative Charles Key and other have gotten to pass the House. And people keep saying, “Can this work? Will this work?” It’s the only hope we’ve got. People are like, “Aww…Congressman Keys, Representative Keys. He can’t get anything passed. You know, they’ll never get it through the Senate.” Well it’s got a very good chance of passing the Senate. Other states are passing this. We got Texas to introduce 2 different resolutions in the last week. Your calls…I talked to the Rep’s office and had him on…your calls spurred this. You’re doing it. And we just reeducate the public. I guess they’ve never even been educated. So we can just educate them. But we have to educate the public on the fact that the states created the federal government. The federal government is out of control. Bought and paid for by foreign banks. Letting foreign corporations come in, buy off the feds, buy off the state legislatures, take over our roads, our infrastructure. That’s what privatization is. It’s not real privatization. And so here’s the headline. Oklahoma House Passes Sovereignty Bill, Pass Set for Other States Seeking to Reassert Constitutional Rights. And see, people love a winner. As other states pass this, and some states have completely passed it, and the strong language in these bills about “no” to gun confiscation, “no” to FEMA camps, “no” to handing our roads over to foreign corporations, “no” to handing our ports over, “no” to the banks taking over. It’s happening. It’s happening. We have to have the states, as the leaders, as our representatives, take on the feds, who we created through the states. So I’m just very, very excited about this. And I appreciate him joining us, Senator Randy Brogdon. Sir, thank you for what you’re doing. Tell us exactly what’s going on and how the listeners can help get this passed through the Oklahoma Senate so it’s fully in place for the state of Oklahoma.
RB: Well, I appreciate you having me on. And I’m always excited when I have an opportunity to spread the good word of freedom and liberty and sovereignty. And I have been welcomed in the state of Texas many times over the last several months talking on sovereignty and freedom issues. As a matter of fact, I think I’ve been down there about 9 times in different parts of the state discussing issues just like this and the NAFTA super highway, the TTC-35, sovereignty, freedom, the 10th Amendment. So, let me tell you about what we’re doing here in the state of Oklahoma. We, as a legislative body, have decided that we are going to reclaim our state’s rights. And you hit the nail on the head. There would not be a federal government had the states, collectively, not created the federal government. The federal government, Congress, has forgotten about that. And most state legislatures around this nation have forgotten about it. But, you know, true, we are part of the United States system. Just because we are a part of the United States does not mean that as a state or as a people we are subjects to the federal government. That is not what it’s all about. Congress has very limited rights, enumerated powers that we the people have given Congress the responsibility to do. Today, Congress is the biggest…this Congress is the biggest bunch of overreachers and underachievers I have ever seen in my entire life. What this Congress is involved with is devastating to us as a nation. It is devastating to us as a free people.
AJ: If I could just add and get your take on the President’s not-state-of-the-union address to Congress. A 10-minute standing ovation as everything’s collapsing and falling apart? Obama bad-mouthing the states and saying, “We’re gonna make sure you don’t waste the money.” when they take our state money and then send it back with strings attached, a tiny portion. And Obama’s the guy who helped engineer the banker bailout. The very people that changed the laws in the 90’s are running this administration that set all this up. And they’re just so proud of themselves. There just so…both the republicans and the democrats…it was a sickening spectacle. Your take on that, State Senator.
RB: Well, it was probably one of the most sophomoric speeches I’ve ever heard in my life if you compare it to the Constitution, if you compare it to the founders of this great nation. And we…I watched as much of it as I could. And I saw republicans standing and cheering, talking about putting limits on how much private industry can make. And so our republicans in Congress have so fallen off the wagon…or they’ve drank the kool-aid. I don’t know what goes on in Washington. But here is what I am convinced of. I’ve been serving in the state Senate for the last 6 years. I am convinced, without any shadow of a doubt, we can take our nation back. But it will be done at the state level. State by state by state, we must regain our sovereignty. We must re-implement the freedom and the liberty that our founding fathers gave us. And our 10th Amendment resolution, SJR-10 and House bill 1003, uses some pretty strong words. We are ordering the federal government to cease and desist effective immediately of all mandates that are beyond the scope of their constitutionally delegated powers. And I dare say, 90 percent plus of what Congress is involved with today falls outside of their constitutional authority and the enumerated powers that we the people gave ‘em. And I’m telling you what. I am on a charge here in the state of Oklahoma to take ‘em back.
AJ: Well, we’re with you. We’re right behind you and right beside you, Senator. Very excited and just really love your spirit, the things you’re talking about. And if you do compare the federal government today to the founding fathers…how eloquent, intelligent their grasp of history, what they were doing…and you compare it to what’s going on now…Number one, their only gonna regulate and control regular businesses and small companies. If you read his $500,000 cap..which is total government control, total tyranny, communists and fascists do it…it’s waivers for all the big banks and all his cronies. And it says they will selectively enforce who they put caps on. So it’s even worse than just having the government put a cap because…this is incredible…talk about social engineering.
RB: Well, President Obama has no moral authority to stand and lecture the citizens here in the state of Oklahoma or in the state of Texas on how to be fiscally responsible. We have just witnessed something in the first 30 days of his administration with a very socialistic agenda. I mean, it borders on fascism to where government and industry are now going to partner up. And it will be devastating to the free markets. It will collapse our country, as we know it. But I’m telling you what. We can change it because, the state of Oklahoma, we’re not gonna participate in his nonsense. We’re not gonna participate in his debt or his mandates. We’re going to…this is my goal…I don’t suspect we have a Governor that’s going to be helpful in that right now. So the legislature is making a very strong statement that we’re reclaiming our rights. And we’re gonna order the government to get out of our pocket and out of our back yard. Leave us alone. Take care of the responsibilities that we’d given them. And nothing more, nothing less.
AJ: Well, this is elite corporations. They’re on record using the presidency and the executive and the legislative to hijack industry. They love this. I’ve got Financial Times of London articles where they admit the big super banks are just using this to buy up banks and other businesses. And now they’re talking about nationalizing other things like oil and industry and auto making. That’s great for the few CEOs that are in the Obama administration. That’s why the republicans are playing along ‘cause they want part of that honey pot too. I think this is the greatest challenge this nation has ever faced because, as our forebears said, this country could not fall from without, it could only fall from within.
RB: Well, that’s exactly right. And there’s one thing that will restore this nation. And it is to…what I like to refer to…back to the future. If we’re gonna have a future in this nation, we’re gonna have to go back to our founding roots and start living by the principles that the Declaration of Independence so clearly spelled out and protected in the rule of law with our Constitution. Obama has been talking down this nation ever since…talking down the economy ever since he has come into office. It’s quite different message what he was sharing out on the campaign trail. He did inspire a lot of people. And of course, his socialistic agenda, I hope fails and fails miserably. But it looks like it’s going to be a stark reality here before too long.
AJ: Well, Senator, you’re right when you say he was “hope, change, we’ll fix it right away. It’s not that bad.” Then as soon as he came in, he said, “You do exactly what I say…
RB: That’s right.
AJ: …or a crisis will be a catastrophe.” That is economic terrorism.
RB: That’s exactly right. And what we have seen this week, the Bank of America stocks fell 36 percent. Christopher Dodd gets up and does his little whiney-boy talk. And we have republicans falling in lock step with him. And the monetary system has obviously been in trouble for…ever since we adopted the federal reserve system. But Citigroup this week fell 22 percent. They’re almost a penny stock now. Well, guess who that’s going to benefit? It’s going to benefit the big players. It’s going to benefit the federal government. They own now, I think, 40 percent of the stock…this is what they’re wanting to do. The federal government is gonna own up to 40 percent of the financial stocks in this country. You cannot become more of a fascist state than when the federal government takes over our banking institutions. I mean, it is just a bizarre situation we have found ourselves in.
AJ: Well, Senator, studying this, what’s really happening is under the banker bailout bill. It gave omnipotent power to the Treasury and the Federal Reserve. And, if you look at it, it’s really the Federal Reserve and offshore banks through the glove, or the apparatus, of government, that are taking government control. Just like big banks do third world countries. I wanna get your take on that. I know you’re a very busy man. We’ve got a quick break. Can we come back and get your take on that? And then give out the bill number and tell listeners all over the country, ‘cause this’ll be a domino effect. How they can let their voices be heard. But also we have a few affiliates in Oklahoma. How folks can call and make sure this happens. And also call the media and tell them, “Don’t you badmouth this State Senator and others and Charles Key and others. You don’t have any future economically, fools, unless this happens.” America is 300 million people. There’s six and a half billion. Why do most of them live as slaves? They let corruption take over. Look at Mexico. They’ve got triple the resources we have. They’re collapsing because of corruption. Free market and liberty is what made this country so great and they’re killing the goose that lays the golden egg. Stay there, Senator.
AJ: Oklahoma State Senator Randy Brogdon in our guest for 5 more minutes. Sir, that question I asked before the break. I’ve analyzed this and have had many economists on. I wanna see if you concur. Nationalization’s bad enough. But the Federal Reserve is private. It’s really taking control and vertically integrating their competition. So they put the debt on us but then they keep the profits. Can you comment on that?
RB: You bet. And the Federal Reserve, it was probably one of the blackest marks of anything that has ever transpired in our nation’s history. Most people have no understanding that the Federal Reserve is a private group of financiers. They literally run the dollar. They run our monetary system. That is not the way our founding fathers set it up. As a matter of fact, there are many debates and articles written even in the federalist papers talking about never having a central monetary, or a central bank. It is the responsibility of the federal government to coin money. And, once again, the lackadaisical, unconstitutional, ne’er-do-wells in Congress, they relinquished that responsibility, handed it over, and now we have a black market of paper money that can be printed at will. Our inflation rate is so high today. People have no idea. The feds tell us our inflation rate’s 3 or 4 percent, whatever it is. I would dare say our inflation rate today is probably up around 14 to 15 percent. //crosstalk//
AJ: Wow, you’ve done your research. That’s what all the economists we’ve talked to say. And it’s gonna go over 20. For those that don’t know, the foreign offshore banks are collapsing the economy so they can have a fire sale.
RB: That’s exactly right.
AJ: They did this and they need to be arrested instead of grandstanding as our saviors.
RB: Well, and I mentioned before the break, Bank of America stock fell 36 percent this week. Citigroup fell 22 percent. Well, there’s only a few people in this world that have an opportunity to go out and buy that stock at this fire sale. And some of that money, I’ll bet you a dollar to a donut, will come from China. So we’re in trouble. We still have opportunities. And I wanna invite people to go to my website. It’s just my name, randybrogdon dot com. And I have written extensively about a lot of these issues that we’re discussing. A lot of our legislation is up on the website. And I talk about freedom and liberty and sovereignty. And I have links to a lot of different publications. And so I would invite your listeners to go and learn more about what we’re trying to do here in Oklahoma.
AJ: We’ve got your…we’re also simulcasting on TV right now. Senator Randy Brogdon’s website is randybrogdon dot com. Go there. They have the bills. They have phone numbers. They have contacts. They have articles he’s written. It’s an excellent website. Senator, I know you’ve gotta go into the Senate here in about 3 minutes. Tell us how we put pressure…especially our Oklahoma listeners, but folks around the country…on the Senate. Because you told me they might try some chicanery. The state police have been trying to come in under the federal auspices and try to block things. That’s what Representative Key told us.
AJ: So in the 2 or 3 minutes we’ve got left, tell us what we need to do.
RB: Well, I think that we’re gonna get a hearing on this bill this time. Last year, Representative Key had his bill passed off of the House floor 97-3. And the democrat floor leader would not…at the time…would not allow me to have a hearing on the Senate floor. That was the bad news. The good news, this year, for the first time in our nation’s…our state’s history, the republicans took control of the Senate. The first time since statehood. So we have a 26-22 majority in the Senate. And my bill has already passed overwhelmingly in judiciary committee. It’ll be headed to the floor probably Thursday or maybe Monday or Tuesday. I haven’t decided yet. And I suspect it’s going to pass. And, here again, we have 2 bills alive today, one House bill and one Senate bill. Eventually I’m gonna yield to Representative Key’s bill because he ran the bill last year. And I was his Senate author. So, we’re trying to keep both bills alive just in case there are some shenanigans that take place. And make sure that we give the citizens of Oklahoma an opportunity to head down the path of reclaiming our sovereignty as a state. And I’m telling you what. I am encouraged, what’s happening here in Oklahoma. My assistant came in just a while ago and she said I’ve already had a call from a listener in California. So your message…this station and this message of freedom and sovereignty is obviously making an impact as we speak.
AJ: Senator, in closing, if we had real republicans like you have in Oklahoma, and like they have in New Hampshire…been interviewing people from all these states…
RB: Right. New Hampshire had a great resolution.
AJ: You guys are really informed. You’re the leaders we need. Just like Dr. Paul and others. And folks, we need to get behind these men and women. We are the people that will put wind into the sails of this ship of liberty. And so I just hope you go to the website randybrogdon dot com. Brogdon is spelled b-r-o-g-d-o-n. //repeats// And sir, when it passes, we’re praying it does, I wanna have you back on, sir.
RB: You bet.
AJ: Thank you so much.
RB: Thanks for the invite.
AJ: You bet. We’ll talk to you soon, Senator.