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« on: February 20, 2009, 03:59:30 PM »

A friend just alerted me of this so I googled it, so I am just sharing the information..

http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-217941.htm


From: Truth 4 All
To: Ken Adachi
Subject: Please post this ASAP! THANKS!-Pam
STAFF SERGEANT/ARMY RANGER/SPEC OPS MAN FROM FORT LEWIS WASHINGTON THAT I JUST
MET WHILE TRAVELING FROM MONTANA TO NORTH CAROLINA REVEALS:
'THE GUILLOTINES ARE REAL AND I WAS GOING TO TRAIN MY MEN IN MY PLATOON TO
USE THEM NEXT WEEK IN HIGHLY CLASSIFIED OPERATIONS AT FORT LEWIS...UNTIL YOU
TOLD ME 'THEY WILL BE USED ON YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS UNDER COMING MARTIAL
LAW!''
NOW he and the men who he told about my reporting, on HOW the guillotines will
be used against their fellow Americans, ARE BEING ROUNDED UP AND HUNTED DOWN
LIKE DOGS..
Humvees and helicopters surrounging their homes...military pay and all access
to bank accounts and credit cards being cut off...and NOW HE IS ON THE RUN!
All because they found out the truth about MARTIAL LAW and the guillotines
FROM ME and have agreed among themselves to NEVER GO ALONG WITH THIS TERRIBLE
NWO AGENDA!
-Pamela Schuffert reporting live from NORTH CAROLINA
I was riding on a bus from BUTTE MONTANA to North Carolina, when I met a young
man all dressed up in full and impressive ARMY RANGER uniform. He carried his
445 mag gun and many knives and several phones and military backpack and other
equipment. He told me he was a STAFF SERGEANT from FORT LEWIS! Fort Lewis is
where many MODERN GUILLOTINES have been stored for a long time, for use in
martial law.
I teased him at first and told him I knew all about the MODERN GUILLOTINES in
Fort Lewis. HE WAS SHOCKED! He said, 'HOW DID YOU KNOW...THIS IS HIGHLY
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION!' He then admitted he was a Christian. I told him that
the US MILITARY WAS NOT TELLING THE YOUNG MEN LIKE HIM, but these guillotines
will be used on AMERICANS AND CHRISTIANS in the future udner martial law, to
behead all NWO resisters.
The longer he listened, the angrier he got. Using a few choice expletives, he
said, 'THEY NEVER TOLD US THIS WOULD BE USED ON AMERICANS UNDER MARTIAL
LAW...to get RID of all CHRISTIANS and NWO RESISTERS! We THOUGHT they would be
used in IRAQ or something!' He then asked me to tell him more and more. He
even filmed me.
Finally, so angry at how they were being deceived and brainwashed, he told me,
'I WILL NEVER go along with this NWO agenda! I am A CHRISTIAN! I will
contact my men in my platoon (64) and those I can trust who are Christians,
I will tell them the TRUTH. I was supposed to go to Fort Hood for more
SPECIAL OPS training next week, and THEN RETURN TO TRAIN MY MEN IN HOW TO
OPERATE THESE GUILLOTINES!
There is a special underground training center where the guillotines
are...we are not allowed to bring in any cameras. cell phones, etc, because
of HIGH SECURITY AND SILENCE regarding these guillotines.They are 6 and a
half feet high, with hand restraints and a place for a person's head as they
stand. We were going to use dummies for practice...BUT NOW I AM REFUSING
THIS ASSIGNMENT and I will contact the men under me who I can trust...who
will NOT go along with this NWO agenda and will come out instead with
HUMVEES, WEAPONS and everything we can get our hands on to fight this NWO
agenda!'

 
1/17/2009 4:58:00 PM Guillotines being stored at Fort Lewis   

bubba19682007

Indianapolis, IN
age: 40

 We parted in Indianapolis...I wondered about the outcome. I was soon to find
out! I called him the next day. He told me he talked to his sister and family
and they were shocked...they were all military...they told him, 'HOW DID YOU
KNOW ABOUT THIS NWO MARTIAL LAW AGENDA...IT IS ALL HIGHLY CLASSIFIED!'
When he told them about ME (I had given him a copy of my AIRMAN MAGAZINE in it
with my famous USAF father's cartoon in it..he was quite amazed and impressed)
he told me his USAF aunt would submit my name to USAF intelligence computers
to see where I stood in the sight of the USAF. He told me, 'She said you are
RED FLAGGED (subject to arrest and interrogation) and are classified by the
USAF as A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY!' (ME???A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY???
ALL for telling AMERICA THE TRUTH about coming MARTIAL LAW!)
This ARMY RANGER had told me that IF HE HAD BEEN ON THE SIDE OF THE NWO
AGENDA, he was authorized as an ARMY RANGER with highest security clearance
and much special ops training to MARCH ME OUTSIDE THE BUS AND SHOOT TO KILL
for knowing this classified info...OR he could have called the nearest
military base and had vehicles come to arrest me immiediately and take me away
for interrogation and termination. THAT IS HOW CLASSIFIED MY INSIDE
INVESTIGATING AND INFO REALLY IS! And YESTERDAY when I called him, he had even
MORE shocking information for me.
'I AM ON THE RUN NOW...they are trying to pick me up...and my USAF sister
too! OUR PAY AND MILITARY SERVICE AND BANK ACCOUNTS HAVE ALL BEEN CLOSED
OFF...we cannot access anything now! THEY ARE NOW ARRESTING HALF THE MEN IN
MY PLATOON...men I talked to who agreed that THEY WOULD NEVER GO ALONG WITH
A NWO MARTIAL LAW AGENDA...all THEIR pay and service and bank accounts have
been cut off from them now too....military helicopters and humvees are
surrounding their homes..they are being watched and picked up one by
one...one man in my platoon defended himself when they broke into his home,
SHOOTING FIVE MILITARY SOLDERS TRYING TO TAKE HIM in the process ( some were
killed) before they were able to arrest him! We are on the run now, my
sister and I...they are after us too.....'
I am actively now on the phone with Staff Sergeant Donnie. His aunt who ran my
name through USAF computers is now being questioned by USAF authorities. I am
SURE they are angry with ME right now as well! They may be searching for me at
this time as well....with this military scandal breaking and ME in the middle
of it!
GET THIS WORD OUT TO EVERYONE! These brave military men are paying the highest
price to say THEY WILL NEVER GO ALONG WITH THIS NWO MILITARY AGENDA to kill
innocent Americans and to destroy our Constitution and our freedoms and people
of faith and character in our nation. PRAY for Staff Sergeant DONNIE BOYSEL
and his sister NOW and for the men they are now hunting down like dogs...to be
interogated and KILLED! PRAY ALSO FOR ME! I may be picked up soon for my role
in this military scandal.
PRAY FOR THE MERCY OF JESUS to preserve me through all this! FORWARD THIS
BREAKING NEWS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST! And NOW YOU KNOW....the
GUILLOTINES ARE REAL! (Revelation 20:4) He told me they ARE EVERYWHERE...in
FORT HOOD, FORT BRAGG, FORT LEWIS..in ALL the US MILITARY BASES including
GERMANY where he was stationed... (yes Europeans will be beheaded for their
faith as well in the NEW WORLD ORDER!) PASS THIS ON AND PRAY FOR ME, FOR
DONNIE AND HIS CHRISTIAN MEN THEY ARE HUNTING DOWN FROM FORT LEWIS! -Pamela
Schuffert reporting LIVE from across the nation

"It is now TIME for the Christians of USA/CANADA to PREPARE for the COMING
CRISIS. It will NOT be without PERSECUTION, TESTING and BLOODSHED. I dare say,
in fact, that it is TIME for the Christians of North America to PREPARE FOR
MARTYRDOM for their faith. END TIME BIBLE PROPHECY is about to unfold in this
nation as NEVER BEFORE...and I can prove it!" -

~Pamela Schuffert,
Noted author, investigative journalist, lecturer

 



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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2009, 04:05:47 PM »

What's up with all the newbs posting all this fear-mongering and provocateuring crap the last few days?

I think I see a trend here.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2009, 04:08:48 PM »

Wake Up Lady!
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2009, 04:09:03 PM »

Apart from the theater of it, why would guillotines be used for mass executions? Even in this crazy world a government could not get away with executing its citizens that way.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2009, 04:09:31 PM »

this story sounds completely rediculous. especially since guilotines are way to impractical to use for getting rid of people. why use something that only kills one at a time when you can gas 100's.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2009, 04:10:19 PM »

Wake Up Lady!

Mind your manners.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2009, 04:10:31 PM »

haha, brilliant.

guillotines.  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2009, 04:11:53 PM »

What's up with all the newbs posting all this fear-mongering and provocateuring crap the last few days?

I think I see a trend here.  Roll Eyes

I thought i was the only one noticing this. Good catch.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2009, 04:15:57 PM »

this story sounds completely rediculous. especially since guilotines are way to impractical to use for getting rid of people. why use something that only kills one at a time when you can gas 100's.

Yeah but if you gas them you might tarnish the meat, the folks in FEMA camps need something to eat!  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2009, 04:18:14 PM »



All this sounds like it's 1991-1994 again...not saying bad things didn't happen then, but this " GUILLOTINES" stuff is silly...
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2009, 04:19:01 PM »

Yeah but if you gas them you might tarnish the meat, the folks in FEMA camps need something to eat!  Wink

yeah right! like they are really going to feed people in camps  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2009, 04:20:00 PM »

Why Guillotines some ask?  Why not!  Don't forget who were dealing with here, it's not just your mom  and pop organization, it's a Satanic organization, who enjoys inflicting torture and pain on humans. Why is that so hard to believe!
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2009, 04:20:52 PM »

This was posted before, and was found to be a fraud!!  Maybe if you search for it, you will find it, and see what people thought of the story!!
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2009, 04:23:25 PM »

Why Guillotines some ask?  Why not!  Don't forget who were dealing with here, it's not just your mom  and pop organization, it's a Satanic organization, who enjoys inflicting torture and pain on humans. Why is that so hard to believe!

well its a good thing i'm building a moat around my house so they cant get me then.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2009, 04:23:41 PM »

guillotines would be a useful way to keep the rest of the organs safe for harvesting
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2009, 05:52:53 PM »

Why Guillotines some ask?  Why not!  Don't forget who were dealing with here, it's not just your mom  and pop organization, it's a Satanic organization, who enjoys inflicting torture and pain on humans. Why is that so hard to believe!
Because there's no REAL SOURCE for this guillotine crap. And you're a newbie, and it seems to me like you're just trying to scare people.

And I AM WOKEN UP, thank you very much. I'm just not buying this crap because you have absolutely no proof except hearsay (that you could've made up all by yourself). We don't know you, we don't know the people you're speaking of, and there's no visual or audio of any of this, and no documentation that we can actually check and verify. So, I'm calling your bluff on this one.

When you DO have that, get back to us.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2009, 05:54:45 PM »

why use something that only kills one at a time when you can gas 100's.

You're forgeting something:


The ever growing shrunken head market.
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2009, 05:57:45 PM »

It was posted here:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=81350.0
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2009, 06:00:53 PM »

Because there's no REAL SOURCE for this guillotine crap. And you're a newbie, and it seems to me like you're just trying to scare people.

And I AM WOKEN UP, thank you very much. I'm just not buying this crap because you have absolutely no proof except hearsay (that you could've made up all by yourself). We don't know you, we don't know the people you're speaking of, and there's no visual or audio of any of this, and no documentation that we can actually check and verify. So, I'm calling your bluff on this one.

When you DO have that, get back to us.

Gotta go with our Socio on this one!
I can smell a canned letter when I read one!
The OP seemed blaringly fictitious: especially the Pamela somebody somethin part: noted author investigative journalist crap: give us a little more here.   She's been at this awhile:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/11049

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2009, 06:03:41 PM »

Reprinted from the last link I posted:

It is not fair to single out Pamela Schuffert. It is unlikely that she is deliberately trying to misinform anyone. She is not the only one whose personal commitment to Jesus Christ and the cause of truth ahve led her into the patriot movement. But unlike others, Schuffert has a need to believe all the stories she hears. And she has a large audience. Because of her personal situation, she has no other interests, no other life. Her upbringing as a young woman was traumatic, and although she is not middle-aged, she has never married. She is seriously overweight. These things must be said, because it is only by understanding Pamela Schuffert that we can recognize how vulnerable she has been to those who manipulate her to propagate their agenda and who give her the emotional support which sustains her.

Unfortunately, Schuffert needs no assistance when it comes to villifying anyone she believes is not on her side. Though sometimes none of us are far from paranoia, from Schuffert's perspective, anyone who disagrees with her scenario is a plant, a traitor, a weakling, or demonically possessed. There is no middle-ground for discussion.

The object of the real enemy here is to keep Christians and patriots in a perpetual state of fear, uncertainty, and anxiety. Under these conditions, good judgment is hard to come by. God give us wisdom.
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2009, 06:09:12 PM »

Yeah, I've seen this posted a bazillion times too.  Is it possible?  Sure.  Likely?  Probably not.  I guess time will tell... and seriously does it even really matter though, what they will use to neutralize us?  
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2009, 06:10:10 PM »

I remember that; ahhh, good times, good times.

Thanks for the link deconstruct.
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2009, 06:13:56 PM »

Bogus... think about how impractical this method is compared to what the germans did in WWII. Not to mention now they have bio weapons. How easy would it be for them to round up people in a camp and release a bug into that population? You save on ammo as well on the population. Release something that extremely contagious and the bug could spread on it's own. All they have to do is wait until everyone dies off then haul the bodies into the their FEMA built in furnaces and incinerate the evidence.
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2009, 06:16:10 PM »

Reprinted from the last link I posted:

It is not fair to single out Pamela Schuffert. It is unlikely that she is deliberately trying to misinform anyone. She is not the only one whose personal commitment to Jesus Christ and the cause of truth ahve led her into the patriot movement. But unlike others, Schuffert has a need to believe all the stories she hears. And she has a large audience. Because of her personal situation, she has no other interests, no other life. Her upbringing as a young woman was traumatic, and although she is not middle-aged, she has never married. She is seriously overweight. These things must be said, because it is only by understanding Pamela Schuffert that we can recognize how vulnerable she has been to those who manipulate her to propagate their agenda and who give her the emotional support which sustains her.

Unfortunately, Schuffert needs no assistance when it comes to villifying anyone she believes is not on her side. Though sometimes none of us are far from paranoia, from Schuffert's perspective, anyone who disagrees with her scenario is a plant, a traitor, a weakling, or demonically possessed. There is no middle-ground for discussion.

The object of the real enemy here is to keep Christians and patriots in a perpetual state of fear, uncertainty, and anxiety. Under these conditions, good judgment is hard to come by. God give us wisdom.


Thanks for the info, deconstructmyhouse! I really actually feel sorry for Ms. Schuffert. She seems like a nice lady, although mildly delusional. If she would calm down a little, be logical and reasonable about some of this, maybe she could really reach a lot of people. But it's instances like the guillotine story and the date-setting for martial law (And subsequent back-pedaling when it didn't happen) that hurts her credibility.
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2009, 06:37:40 PM »

Guillotines? we aren't in the Stone Age people. They have Direct Energy Weapons, Sound Cannons and Sub Machine Guns, to name a few weapons.

Then there is the Bio Weapons. I dont think Guilotines will be needed.
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« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2009, 06:44:30 PM »

well its a good thing i'm building a moat around my house so they cant get me then.

I am planning on building a moat and a wooden palisade, not for protection though, I just think they look cool.
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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2009, 06:47:19 PM »

Guillotines? we aren't in the Stone Age people. They have Direct Energy Weapons, Sound Cannons and Sub Machine Guns, to name a few weapons.

Then there is the Bio Weapons. I dont think Guilotines will be needed.

Not so - The Pentagon recently announced they were scrapping all that stuff because the economy has forced budget cuts, and now they're using guilotines, bows & arrows, muskets and slingshots. and humvees are all being temporarily replaced with with chariots, which are all stored in underground hangers in Denver.
totally true. An anonymous sources' friends' dog told me in a dream I had in which we were riding through the eurotunnel on the back of a giant talking fluorescent lobster, with metallica playing in the background.

sorry.
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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2009, 07:28:13 PM »

Cheaper than bullets, quicker than gas. Grin
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2009, 07:58:18 PM »

I was there this guy is telling the truth.... Dr Dolittle was there talking to the lobster...

I was also the ranger on the bus I was carrying my "445 mag gun"  Which is extremely dangerous and important sounding....

 But what if this is true and she just screwed up a little?

Then that means we're screwed because she embellished/exaggerated parts of a story....because once a source is revealed as being "a little screwed up", no one will listen to them and it's REALLY REALLY hard for that source to gain credibility again.

Even the prospect that it "might be true" doesn't take away from the fact that she doesn't follow the basic rules of credible journalism (don't exaggerate, don't over-dramatize, always back up your sources with documentation, and don't assume that unanswered questions from people you're interviewing means what YOU want it to mean):
If the German soldier, giving her an odd smile, just walked away, Schuffert would explain she knew his answer was "Yes!", not from what he said in so many words, but just from the cold expression in his eyes, and from the contempt in his body language, as he swaggered from the room. Schuffert's writing style seems borrowed from romance novels. This is the same interviewing technique Schuffert is still using today as she travels in Germany, where she has told friends she is on a "secret mission."

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2009, 07:59:00 PM »

This crap was posted numerous times already... and it still doesn't have any credibility.
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« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2009, 07:59:59 PM »

It is possible to make the resistors of the NWO an example for the rest of the sheep. It isn't out of the possibility to install paleo-style execution methods when America transforms into a old-fashioned, middle-age, feudalistic country. in the next 100 years.
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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2009, 08:03:46 PM »

I think I seen this posted about 2 years ago. I am not going to get all hot and heavy over it. As a matter of fact I am starting to think the RED & BLUE lists are garbage too. The government is going to have its hands full in a matter of months if not a year from now. We are entering a depression people and the government can not stop it even though they caused it. The sheeple will rape pilliage and steal when they can't afford to eat. Society will break down also and the government will have to take on the role of the little dutch boy with his finger in the damn. We have states writing resolutions affirming its states rights basicly telling the federal government to f**k off. We might even see a civil war in the future so what makes us think the government is going to have the time to single out certain groups of people. I am not afraid at this moment and to be honest I am more worried about the people on welfare at the moment because they will be the ones raping and looting when the checks don't come in.
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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2009, 08:28:17 PM »

I think they are working on Christians here who have read Revelations. It says they will chop off the heads of all Christians.


Maybe this is Glen Beck writing these articles.
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2009, 06:04:59 AM »

they're using guilotines, bows & arrows
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2009, 06:44:42 AM »

Let's not get carried away on this forum, and stop posting 'CRAP' thank you.
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2009, 06:49:26 AM »

If you haven't noticed, wherever this story is posted an almost identical "argument" ensues. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2009, 06:51:50 AM »

Holy crap, this is still circulating? This urban legend has been around since like the early 90's or so. It started from a photo of commercial, chinese made paper cutters. no guilliotines, sorry. Welcome to pp by the way, just try to keep it to legitimate issues please, tired urban legends make the movement look silly.
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2009, 08:50:36 AM »

Because there's no REAL SOURCE for this guillotine crap. And you're a newbie, and it seems to me like you're just trying to scare people.

And I AM WOKEN UP, thank you very much. I'm just not buying this crap because you have absolutely no proof except hearsay (that you could've made up all by yourself). We don't know you, we don't know the people you're speaking of, and there's no visual or audio of any of this, and no documentation that we can actually check and verify. So, I'm calling your bluff on this one.

When you DO have that, get back to us.

I'm not saying the lady's story sounds very reasonable, but what is this, high school? What's with the labels? Huh
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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2009, 08:58:54 AM »

I'm not saying the lady's story sounds very reasonable, but what is this, high school? What's with the labels? Huh

Good point. I've seen this a lot. Newbies make mistakes sometimes. We need to educate them, not accuse them of trolling, scaremongering, etc. Unless they keep doing it of course.

Diamondslims. Please try to verify your sources in the future. We are very exacting about information and credibility around here.
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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2009, 09:13:25 AM »

Should guillotines be use it will be for nothing more than show and effect. A good way to instill fear through visual stimulus it will make many a convert even against their will.
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