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Hi All, just been thinking and given the current situation here (UK) I think we will probably see another 7/7 or similar some time soon (The security services are trying to get new powers (they will likely be refused) and the government is really in trouble so i guess the time is right for another awful (but oh so distracting and uniting) event to unfurl...
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2009, 03:49:37 PM » |
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its like that everywhere, not just the uk.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2009, 03:50:33 PM » |
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Youre right , probably bird flu or some bulls**t !
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 03:52:45 PM » |
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Hi All, just been thinking and given the current situation here (UK) I think we will probably see another 7/7 or similar some time soon (The security services are trying to get new powers (they will likely be refused) and the government is really in trouble so i guess the time is right for another awful (but oh so distracting and uniting) event to unfurl...
What does everyone else think?
Unlikely, as with the IRA bombings of the 70's and 80's they have found 7/7 a lot less successful in the long term than 911 was in the USA. However, watch as Muslims are demonized more and more. The British have a propensity for falling for this sort of thing (notice the tone of the David Icke forums for example. No, it is "race" they will go with. Using this to increase police powers to "stop" "illegal Immigrants" Divisiveness is the tactic |
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There has been a few panorama (documentary / factual prog if you don`t get panorama in the states) shows dedicated to the young unhappy muslim population of the UK that is (reportedly) turning to radical islam. . .
There was that business with the weaponised pneumonic plague not so long ago
on and on. . . just feels like a build up to something, a little like the pre 7 / 7 event
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There has been a few panorama (documentary / factual prog if you don`t get panorama in the states) shows dedicated to the young unhappy muslim population of the UK that is (reportedly) turning to radical islam. . .
There was that business with the weaponised pneumonic plague not so long ago
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 04:03:34 PM » |
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As I said above You may be right - i think though to some extent people here are getting kinda desensitized to the horror of 7/7 and 9/11 all i can see is that what ever comes next will have to be unlike anything we have seen before and way more destructive / disruptive |
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2009, 04:07:14 PM » |
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They just killed another micro biologist and in this FEMA Chicago clip they where also talking about biological attack. Many micro biologist already have been killed (up to 60) I think this will be the NWO Joker the biological attack cause you can easy blame that on nature like with AIDS. Also cause this will create a lot of panic among the public. They are already training for forced injections also mentioned in this FEMA Chicago clip Google Earth FEMA Camps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvcK3Gg2DLscoffin 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nfJdgZzyOkIs FEMA & DHS preparing for mass graves and martial law near Chicago?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0P-Q0vvCM0 |
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2009, 04:11:05 PM » |
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Well 7/7 (I hate how they call it that, no offence americans) didn't really have the desired effect, maybe it wasn't destructive enough?
If they want to sell the police state to the people they're gonna have to do something, because there are alot of people onto their game now over here. And lets face it we are no where near as bad as the states yet in reality, they have the laws in place but don't really use them ....
It's just a matter how whet they try next, I feel this ressecion is yet to bottom out, and when it's there I think they will make their move, as to how i'm not sure ...
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They just killed another micro biologist and in this FEMA Chicago clip they where also talking about biological attack. Many micro biologist already have been killed (up to 60) I think this will be the NWO Joker the biological attack cause you can easy blame that on nature like with AIDS. Also cause this will create a lot of panic among the public. They are already training for forced injections also mentioned in this FEMA Chicago clip Google Earth FEMA Camps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvcK3Gg2DLsthis is good, watch! coffin 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nfJdgZzyOkIs FEMA & DHS preparing for mass graves and martial law near Chicago?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0P-Q0vvCM0 |
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 04:18:02 PM » |
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Well 7/7 (I hate how they call it that, no offence americans) didn't really have the desired effect, maybe it wasn't destructive enough?
If they want to sell the police state to the people they're gonna have to do something, because there are alot of people onto their game now over here. And lets face it we are no where near as bad as the states yet in reality, they have the laws in place but don't really use them ....
It's just a matter how whet they try next, I feel this ressecion is yet to bottom out, and when it's there I think they will make their move, as to how i'm not sure ...
I don`t know Chigs I reckon most ppl in the states would say the UK is worse! All the CCTV, "antiterror" laws and lack of care for civil rights. . . We dont have any concentration camps (that I know of) but in all honesty I reckon both countries are gonna be up against it pretty hard, pretty soon  |
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For the UK, I'm concerned for all the pandemic predictive programming they have put out, so my guess would be a bird flu outbreak (that would maybe be blamed on radical Muslim bioterror, I dunno). 28 Weeks Later (Based In London & UK) Children Of Men (Based In London & UK) Doomsday (Northern England, Hadrian's Wall, Scotland) The BBC TV Mini Series 'Survivors' (Based In London & UK) http://www.bbc.co.uk/survivors/index.shtml |
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I think this will be the NWO Joker the biological attack cause you can easy blame that on nature like with AIDS. Agree with your perdiction, except just as AIDS was blamed on West Africans eating diseased " monkey brains," it was believable based on centuries of demonization of Africa and not nature. However, if there is another 7/7, it just might be connected with documented threats made by angry Islamists in the U.K. This, coupled with white British resentment against immigration and the perception that these groups are responsible for " taking their jobs," will incite and misplace a ton of rage against these groups. The perfect false-flag that is needed to hearled in complete and permanent martial law, and FEMA camp detentions. The initial bulk of these detainees will be immigrants. Shortly after them will be the native Brits. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 04:25:47 PM » |
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If anything happens it will be after the next general election - an 'inaugural bombing' to solidify the country behind whomever the new PM may be (as if it matters who it is).
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2009, 04:25:59 PM » |
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I think a disease outbreak is likely , but as the birdflu has not really made the jump to humans yet (bird - human transmission is possible but another human won`t catch it from an infected human) I think it will be something else...
I know i sound like a broke record (probably) but that small story about the plague not so long ago might have been a clue -esp since the journalist who was very very interested in this story suddenly told me he could no longer investigate or talk to me (?why???)
Very easy to do - spread it around on some kind of mass transit system (the tube etc) and bingo instant panic and mass terror and loads of dead people.
That or a dirty 8om8 - there`s been much news about reinforcing uk`s nuke establishments recently. . .
Or there is the obvious north koreans / iranians to blame it on no?
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2009, 04:27:56 PM » |
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If anything happens it will be after the next general election - an 'inaugural bombing' to solidify the country behind whomever the new PM may be (as if it matters who it is).
No, I think it has to be before then. . . after all it will be too late after the next election, this load of idiots will be out for sure, since its this govt who did 7/7 I wouldn`t put it past them to do something else, then catch the suspects, to boost their popularity, etc etc |
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2009, 04:28:28 PM » |
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Yeah, but when you see the cops on the beat it's not as bad, well atleast not in my neck o the woods!
I know, what is it 1 camera for every 14 people? Something like that, Infact your right we're ahead in the surveilance steaks I think.
Yip, I recon it's coming here but I dont think we're there yet, but like I say I live in a quiet area away from the cities ... We dont even have enough prisons for the crims we've got let alone for any mass caging of the nation.
But when things do kick off, we are not as big a threat due to lack of arms, and there are still to many people locked up in their humdrum lives, I do realise that is quite contradictory to my first statement, but the masses just aren't listening yet!
I have noticed a few people scoffing in older generations about the "silliness" of the world we live in tho, even my mum recons things are getting out of hand!
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2009, 04:32:10 PM » |
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The bird flu bullshit was just to sell loads of tamiflu and the UK government bought a ton of it.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2009, 04:33:07 PM » |
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I know i sound like a broke record (probably) but that small story about the plague not so long ago might have been a clue You know, you just might be on to something there. After all, there is some plague vials missing from our SP3 labs here at Fort Detrick. It is so easy to blame this on the new wave of immigrants. Did you know that when you are leaving Africa to France, the lock the plane and spray it up and down with some bio-agent they claim will "leave whatever" pest have flown in there? This is done without our permission and without notice. It is so easy to introduce a germ into those aerosol cans. |
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2009, 04:34:06 PM » |
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No, I think it has to be before then. . . after all it will be too late after the next election, this load of idiots will be out for sure, since its this govt who did 7/7 I wouldn`t put it past them to do something else, then catch the suspects, to boost their popularity, etc etc
They only did 7/7 to help Blaire win the 2005 election. Nobody likes Brown, he's shot as is Labour in terms of their usefulness to the globalists. They will only pull another 'event' to solidify the country behind the Torys - who will be puppets to the same globalist interests that Labour have been over the last decade and a bit. In other words - its time for the globalists to take the red puppet off the left hand and put the blue puppet on the right one again – and distract us with that for a few years. |
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2009, 04:34:20 PM » |
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2009, 04:36:17 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2009, 04:39:50 PM » |
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Could just as easily be a religous/race thing though, this is getting quite bad in England ...
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it is a shame but they are stoking the racr / immigration issue daily, jobs going to poles / russians / italians / etc etc thats what gets the regular sheep going. . . plus the muslims are out to get you campaign they have been playing since before even 9/11 - they are making some people here racist !
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it is a shame but they are stoking the racr / immigration issue daily, jobs going to poles / russians / italians / etc etc thats what gets the regular sheep going. . . plus the muslims are out to get you campaign they have been playing since before even 9/11 - they are making some people here racist !
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They will learn the hard way. This is their first major experience with a multiethnic society that is predominately from non-European countries. Somehow, the Brits refuse to see that these groups are coming from Britain's former colonies where she has plundered their resources and devastated economies. Those same resources and native labor which made her one of the wealthiest nations on earth.
Now, these ethnic groups duly dispossessed of their land and resources are coming by invitation of Britian's manufacturers to reap some of the benefits, and the average Britain is resentful. This makes no sense. It is important to read and understand the history. It would be a tragic mistake not to do this. By the time the Brits are through bashing, blaming and fighting them, they will be too exhausted and unequipped to deal with their real enemies, which are the corporate masters who are orchestrating it all. Most Americans have been there, done that . . . and are learning to smell a setup when they see it.
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I definitely see one coming sometime this year. Don't know about the UK, but I expect something to happen in the US to shore up support for Obama.
Next week is the anniversary of the Reichstag fire (Feb 27, 1933) and the first WTC bombing (Feb 26, 1993). Both came a month after Hitler and Clinton came into power.
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They will learn the hard way. This is their first major experience with a multiethnic society that is predominately from non-European countries. Somehow, the Brits refuse to see that these groups are coming from Britain's former colonies where she has plundered their resources and devastated economies. Those same resources and native labor which made her one of the wealthiest nations on earth.
Now, these ethnic groups duly dispossessed of their land and resources are coming by invitation of Britian's manufacturers to reap some of the benefits, and the average Britain is resentful. This makes no sense. It is important to read and understand the history. It would be a tragic mistake not to do this. By the time the Brits are through bashing, blaming and fighting them, they will be too exhausted and unequipped to deal with their real enemies, which are the corporate masters who are orchestrating it all. Most Americans have been there, done that . . . and are learning to smell a setup when they see it.
Regular Brits never really benefited from the Empire - in fact they suffered more than most in the colonies. The true benefactors of the British Empire were the black nobility of Europe and their elite banking friends (who financed and profited from the entire 'commercial' venture that it was) - the very same NWO types who are now benefiting from the global economic crisis. |
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Regular Brits never really benefited from the Empire - in fact they suffered more than most in the colonies. The true benefactors of the British Empire were the black nobility of Europe and their elite banking friends (who financed and profited from the entire 'commercial' venture that it was) - the very same NWO types who are now benefiting from the global economic crisis.
The average Brit may not have been part of those European elite, but their standard of living was definitely uplifted by the insane wealth that these British colonies produced. The masses of all of these groups never benefited as well. They too are victims and their standard of living never rose above the manufactured poverty created as a result of the plunder of their resources. So, why blame and pick on them? Can't you see that they too are suffering the same as the " average Brit" claims to be? This is the typical infighting of the have-nots for a pie that doesn’t belong to either. History is coming back to bite us all in the behind. The British Empire lasted for several HUNDRED years of exploitation, slavery and plundering of these native lands. Your rage should be targeted at those elite who allowed it, and not at the poor who have been invited to work, and had nothing to do with their flight. Resenting and fighting them will get you nowhere but imprisoned or dead. It's called the " Law of Restitution," or if you are of the Eastern variety " Karma." This is the unfortunate legacy our ancestors left us. We must all deal with it. |
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But it is only now, when the jobs a scarce that people are starting to complain, foriegn workers came here because there was plenty of work, why was there plenty? Because half of the lazy arsed buggers on the dole thought of the jobs available as beneath them!
They had it too easy, getting hand outs for sitting doing he-haw, I have nothing against unemployment benifit, I have been unemployed myself! But I took the first job I could get, and it didn't take long! BUt now it's a different story, there are less jobs about and maybe if people had filled the jobs, others wouldn't have bewen able to come here to fill them and would not be here now! This is now their home.....
And I have nothing against foriegn worker our company would be screwed without them!
As for the religion/race thing it's getting stoked on both sides, there is hatered from both sides! Thankfully it's not bad in Scotland, but I had a friend who went down south for a while, and there are Black only, white only and muslim only areas in many cities ... it is a sad state of affairs.
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Hi All, just been thinking and given the current situation here (UK) I think we will probably see another 7/7 or similar some time soon (The security services are trying to get new powers (they will likely be refused) and the government is really in trouble so i guess the time is right for another awful (but oh so distracting and uniting) event to unfurl...
What does everyone else think? I would say get all these foreign workers out and their families as well. Send them back to their home countries. It is not up to the UK to support alll these foreign workers if they can no longer provide jobs ffor them. Send them back where they came from. Hire UK nationals if jobs are available and they can be filled by them. Top priority for employment should be given to citizens first, that should be the rule in every country in the E.U. There was no 7/7 and Madrid train station attacks in the days when these radical muslims did not live in Europe. I am old enough to remember how Europe was before they came with their imams, mosques, radical preachings, etc. |
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I would say get all these foreign workers out and their families as well. Send them back to their home countries. Yes. Send them back along with all of the natural resources which is being exploited from their lands to sustain the British "way of life." Let's see how " well off" the average Britian and their economy will survive without them. BTW: you might want to hold on to that computer, cell phone and ipod of yours. Without those rare and precious metals that come from the Congo, you would not have them. The " chickens have come home to roost," and we all are paying a dear price. One of the major yet least discussed issues that has caused this economic Tsunami is the unfair trade and poor distribution of wealth in this world. The massive exodus into the "richer" gluttonous nations is a product of this. It is not natural or normal to expect people to starve, or work for a penance in the only industries allowed to thrive in their countires, namely those that send their raw materials OUT to sustain the livelihood of the developed nations. Neither is it natural for them to leave their families, culture and lives behind to find cheap labor in the lands that are exploiting their own. Denial and scapegoating is what got us here, and denial and scapegoating will be what takes us all down. That's just how vitally interdependent we are upon one another.  |
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LOL!!! I am not brainwashed consumer sheep. I live very well without these two items. The computer I make a living out of so I have no choice but having one. If the Internet goes bust I will find another way. Considering I am over 50 I remember the times we did not have PCs. Also I do not feel responsible for what Hitler did to the Jews and to the non-Jews. I was not yet born at the time. This "guilt trip" NWOscum media brainwashing must be stopped. Neither do I feel responsible for our countries plundering the natural resources of Africa, India, etc. I was not yet born during the years of "colonisation". During those years the countries we "colonised" had railroads that worked, new constructions in proper running condition, hospitals with properly trained doctors, we trained their people and provided literacy to them. So why always blame colonisation? I am sick of all this constant changing the truth. I think you must watch too much TV. I don't own a TV by the way. I never did and never will. We took resources from them but somehow we may have brought more to them than we took away. |
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« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2009, 12:17:19 PM » |
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Also I do not feel responsible for what Hitler did to the Jews and to the non-Jews.
I was not yet born at the time. This "guilt trip" NWOscum media brainwashing must be stopped.
Neither do I feel responsible for our countries plundering the natural resources of Africa, India, etc.
I was not yet born during the years of "colonisation".
During those years the countries we "colonised" had railroads that worked, new constructions in
proper running condition, hospitals with properly trained doctors, we trained their people
and provided literacy to them. So why always blame colonisation?
I am sick of all this constant changing the truth. I think you must watch too much TV.
I don't own a TV by the way. I never did and never will.
We took resources from them but somehow we may have brought more to them than we took away.
I rest my case. We are most certainly doomed.  |
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« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2009, 12:34:04 PM » |
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A few weeks back the sun ran a story about the black plaguee in Algiers i posted it up on this forum and got more insight from other members who know what they are looking for.. Censorship on youtube is greatly increasing..i can view most vids on youtube but since i have been re sending the links to the uk they are being manipulated changed to something else.For exzample i watched the witness account from Daniel obachike and i was sending the links to a friend in uk and they said that the 2nd link part 2 on alex jones show was changed to something else. a london dungeon clip most likely most people have seen the same one where the screen is all quiet for a minute or 2 then it suddenly shows an ugly face and then it starts screaming at you?...... since then i am having trouble recording videos
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